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Laa diagrammes auivants iliustrent la mAthoda. 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 5 «im » f » mi i iy ft > t t^ '^---':^*/t--'^'^^^''-^- *ft^T m I 3*^ / .•■■'>r JLXV OCEEDINGS ♦ • - - in niiisiiiiir mt (Sffc m tDwlit 1)m Snuaer of 1891V fo iiiii^iin UM tui ottrtaiHcn huttti to , f|K UOHtt Of LAVZIOWHI^ , .. RKIATITI TO TBI BI0UT8 OF LikMt>>WNi£Fd A^D TiCl^AKTa » • • • • . • PRINCE EDWAltD ISLAND. ^M>»i J. D. OoEDOM k D. Laird, RiPOBTitf. OHARLOTTETOWN, P. E. I. : fllllTIO AT <ii giftfii up in th«t Journal lo ilM publioatinn, an«l tlio rnpori pruvod muoli mora lengthy than was expevtcil, it could notb« flompleleil iNifore the Lpgiftlaiive 8«*rtMioii of 1801, iluring which the work had to ceaii«>, owing to the parliamontarj debat«M uueupying all the iivuilnlilu apace in the publio print*. The other oauMOwati the detention liy Mr Halliburton of tho manuscript uf hia two tf)tvoolivn befuru the i*oniiiiii«t«i*in, lor- wartleti to him for correction. In complianco with bia own nrgent rr«iuu8t to bo favored in its proper place. An- other delay occurred about tho cIoho of the year ; and after waiting two or three weeks, the first paK of bis closing speech waa received, when (ho publication of tho report was rpsumed. Tho conclusion of the speech has not yet been returned, which aecounts for ita omission in tho following pngos. The Re- portera will not attribute any niolives to Mr Halliburton in withholding tho manuscript ; one cicuso in his favor they will admit, namely, thai owing to hia holding, last anmrnor, tLo oftoo of Secretary to tho Commisiioners in Nova Scotia for the Great International Exhibition of 1802, ho was porhaps ■Mblo to attend to what wm oertainlj an important duty — a tw. PaSFACI. duty to hb olitaU m vt U m U ih« lUpprtem m«I to U« publie. Uu b«B«llt, kowtTtr, hM rttulUd flrooi iht Jalaj ia th« »ppMnine« of tho Roport ; tho Award of ibo Lantl Oommlc- •ioaon haTiag booa roooivod boforo iti iMtto« tho publiahori ha? doomod it adritablo to priot tbo Award aad hafo It bouad ep ia tbo Mmo Toluno. Tbej boro, tboa, proooal to tbo pubUo aa abotraet of tbo OTidooeo gifoa boforo tbo Coraado- gioa, aad alio tbo Award ; aad aa botb (ogotbor will bo • book wortb ponoMiag aad protorviag, thoj bopo tbat tholr oadoavors to furaiib aa aeeouot of tbo progroia— oo fbr aa il was publiolj ooaduotod — aad tboa of tbo rosult of an la? oail- gatioa tbo most importaat bj far wbioh baa takoa plaoo !• tbo blatory of Prinoo Edward Island, will roooivo a ooauaos- •urato roward ia tbo Uboral patronago of tbo publio. Ap■f^ 1862. UB T ra H im C« ■at in. nm tt'J «i WSi^ UUinmt! .1 \ 8flu ,1 lo ABSTEACT or THH .mun •^Ivitidi |lO f Pit OCEfi DINGS .•li'i i-j ■J H^iW .AND COMMISSIONERS' :i 'J Jli ,HH < .' ': SHoo. JL U. QRiAi^ afVer the Rf^al Warrant appointing (be lioiittiiaioiiera!Waai*ea4 by the Clerk, eatied apon the Cooitiel itseat to ataiioo wboae behalf they ha«l appealed at the Cotfit. jd tboir viowa in regaid to its jarisdidiion. Iloiii J. HsN^tiST then addressed the Coort at considar- loMth, Ho appeared as (/'onnsul for the'Government, on If Of the ToAantryrof the Island, to lay before the Coort the rievancaa oomplaiMid of by that body, and lo seek redress at -it hsinds. ThO qobstion of the Land Tenures had agitated pobiio OTiind fOropwarda of Jiaif a oentitrK and bad \kin -"vo^MLafAajorylMitbitb^lM proapeviiy iff tbe Island ond th^ kualof iia inhabilft|it«* ond he sitioerely toasted that lAte gen- Boien aow{|i|ipoiaii|ill|to!eiamiH« into the qc«sfi«Hi w,iBtii? be -bl«d«l?li!it»«i)||gkoa«)ne settlement of it which wodld 1^ : «n4.aatii(bl0|M«<4l» piitifeo; Variooa attempts had frbiii Imoio tiiB«lieodiM)dejJ>y- l»|^!«tion, to meet the diflioMty^» Ind measBrea hiid been inttoduned, respecting the wisdom and ■^^' THE LAND COBCMISSION. joitice of which grave difTerences of npinioa had exiated ; but on one point all were ananinaoanly agreed — namely, that thesyttcm of Leasehold tenure wai a tad one, and ahonld if poisible be destroyed He then referred ro the resolationa of the Hoase of Assembly on this question, passed in 1869: and the Statute of the last Session based on Ihese resolutions, which, he contended, dearly gave to the Commiasioners ample ppwer to deal finally with all the vexed qae ti^ns cpnaef t^ wit^ the Township l«nd» of the Island, not aniy ^l|Me ;tt>iqle(il|r rjaffrf ed to ic the Resolu- tions, but other qdlBstloni wbtlBh had larc^y occupied the public mind — namely. Escheat for ji^^^ nQn-perforroance of the condi- tions of the original Grants, and tno payment of the arreara of PHfsel.ofr tii»fase, he and his learned aese^att ■ame time, he be|g|ed leave to state, aud wished clearly to make it known, that the Go vr aa ent -- a 1 t ho ugh they did not them- ■elves advance the questions of Escheat and the payment of Quit Reots~-deaired'' that It ahonld'^ be open to any one who frisked to have tboae cpesiione Aotisideie^, to mmda ibfiCSiJnrt find aecik i^s deeinion respeediag theip,.iio airto:tMik0;lb«'ptMMt Mveatigatian t'qll and oomtfrehenaivie« «nd, i(»>pbafi|blft^«mbH£e all views and points in dispute. H» iMistrsd'theiMO'tlis tbuo- lotions .'1 detaiU and explained, that vtfailst ibey rafevred to other matters, tfaey pointed pricnipally at a remissiont of tfea arteacs of rent dae, and the settlmg a price by the Comsaissieafirs at wbicb the Proprietors shonjd be called anon to sell th* Freehald of the land to the Tenant. The latter, he contended, sbtf old be at a low figure; for whatever value might now attach to the lands in this Island, had been entirely created by the ihdoMry and axertions of the tenantry.- He hoped the Commiasioaerp would yiiit some of the wild and distant settlements of the Island, look at the heavy trees which the tenant had to clear away and root oat before the land was fit for tillage; and they ooiudaotbat raturn with the conviction on their mii^s Uiat he whof(rils the trees and clears the forests should ba the freeholder, and vol th« far distant propiieior, who, pefhaps, has never srtejiea apon the wilds of America or eooouolered the oold blairts df its win- ter. Some seemed to think tuat the tenanOi dwiBrvad ba cansi' deration at all. It was said titat they inttit, Wbatetrel their difficultits, pay their rents CO the attermest. farthing* booause they had taken leases wherein they had. ao^anrinly itedettaken to do SO. The proprietors, too, wliein they took their gzfatv^ had as solemnly bo^nd themselves Iwithin a certaia tiiaa toaattls j the land» in a certain way, otherwise the i^itints wer^ to ba vttid; and had uUo as solemnly undertaken to pay oevtain amounts of I Quit Renta-r~yftt, as he i»elieved» these conditions were not even in a singl i case ponctually obaerifed or perforaied by any of the grantees; but indulgences and d;3Chaii;es had been from thrne toj ■; I THE LAND COMMISSION. |tiit«>* aoi:i|ht by them frotn the Crowii; yet. it had been a very looiiinidii thing for proprietors and partieii interested in sapportiag [thdir vie^s, to pfoclaim thnie who dared to advocate the caase of the tenants, or bring in measures for their relier, or to plead the phicHee of remitting their arrears of rent, as agitators, or dishOnitst, OP political demagogues. Such oondiiot came, he thought, with very bdd grace from those who for half a century pftitnad been always Olanioring for a reraispioh of the Qnit Reata, which they had agreed to pay ; or a release from condi- [iona which thoy had undertaken to perform; and some of whom pad gone still farther, and had taken possession of, leased and ^eeeiVed rent on the Fishery Reserve tandti, on certain Town- Ibips, whtfre they were expressly reserved out of their grants. Ina to wbiOh they had no manner of claim He then explained lie Piihf>ry IteAerve (|destlon, and referred to various opinion* ^(jroWn Offioere, giVed on the subject, and called attention of le ComiaiiMiOiier^ lo thd fact that this was one of the qnestiona I whibh tn^tr attehiioh was invited by the terms of the R.esola- m atid Addireks iib(^Othpahyiitg them, tie could not enter at i\t ata|(e of the caae Into the Eacheat and Quit Rent question, prther than to tf&y, that this CofiimMiiiohere had full power to Kal With theiM, and would therefore be called upon to do oo. ! was not for hittl or his learhed itssociiite to find remedies for [i thMe evihi— it was the Commissioners* province to do that. They had only tb bring the evils ro their notice. But he woold imark that he thought the remitting of Rents should not be con- led to thoie only in arrears, because otherwise those who, by krd inl«i8try, iiad IteOt all their Rents paid ap, would d<)rive no yaiB&t. The COtAnoliMiionere might, in theie cases, free the Itrties from payment of Rent for a certain time to come, or IT might iitake a proportionate redaction in their fiKnre Rent in the priOe i(t wnifth they might order the Proprietor to sell I fM aiMple 0^ the hnd. ff they ehoifld thii^k Seoheai im- ititlkMcr. 6t (tii&ttLh to be carried oat, the\ itoight ordef thft keVinitinHiiii to ^iiy a eertdln stftn into the Tr:a8ury in dis-^ . irge-tff the broken condition^; ftrid in the 6kie of the QLttW ita. the proprietors might also be ordered to pay a certain ^ Uito the TVeastary, M a se(tbfa6tfOn for all arrears due. leie'Were merely preliMitiary adggestioWs — the aOttial solution itainM with the Cc^rUiMtOners, Who had an important idaty 'perform; and f(by their $'ward they should set at rOst thMa W$ Kgirated mattera, id it m^tin^r a&tisfaictory to all partiea. ley mttK iftdftfed hiive earned . t(nd bis entitled to the gratitude ^very lihiibUaiit of Prihe^ tAMtA tslend. , Mr 1 k^Bcaotr fottowid. fie begati by commenting on &n lltorat ih the lait is8ti4 of the jtxaihiner, in which it was ^goed Hhht the powers of the COmdnisssioners were only nego- Itory-^that th^y could itoeretv recoomiend (he fixing upon a re per acre which would lighten tho burden of the jtenantry, te., ds ar.y other person might do; — Snd that it was nncertain rhether they would entertain the qtlestidn cf Escheat. Re Mioilled the idea of an Act being passed by the looal Legiala- ^re, and a Royal Commission issaed appointing three dis- THE LAND COMMISSION. ll! ': 1-1 i i I 1 ^1 tinguiBhed men as Comtni^rriunerg, conferring only the power of negotiation ; and maintained that the Court had ample anthority to settle all qnestions in dispute. He waa inrpriaed upon look- ing over the Journals of the Legislature to wee petitions to the Home Government praying for a Court of Escheat, as every Biitish Colony with a separate government, possessed the power within itself of establishing its owq courts. But if snch a court never existed in this Colony before, it did now, for the Court whom he addressed were vested with powers more for- roidahle than were ever held by any Court of Escheat. He also stated he had heard, that certain of the Proprietors who had not signed a paper agreeing to the Commis!«ion, col^i lered they would not be bound by its decision. He told them of their error, showed by several clauses in the Act to give effect to the Report of the Commission, that they would be as much bound by it as if their namus w^re to paper, and warned them not to neglect their interests before the court through this belief. He also adverted to the condition of the Tenantry of this Island — It was much worse than that of the people of the neighbor- ing Colonies where the proprietory system was unknown; and therefore it was not to be wondered at if they loudly complained of injustice. He compared them to serfs, as they could not only be deprived of their lands, but be pursued and taken in any of the British Colonies, or even in the United States for arrears of rept. The Counsel on the ott:et side might say that they them- selves were to blHme for their petition, as a bs/gain was a bar- gain. Ho kaew this and would not argue as he had done be- fore a court of jusitice; he was not, however, addressing such a tribunal, but stood before a court of equity — a coui't whose province it was to view the question in all its aspects. Mr Haliburton spolte briefly to the effect that he hoped the Counsel for the Tenantry would lay before the Court some written proposition, stating grievances and what remedies they would suggest, that he and his colleague might have something to take hold of, and be prepared, if necessary, with evidence to meet thetn. He did not consider it was necessary to reply to mere clap-trap, Mr Chas. Palmer made a few remarks of a similar nature, and stated thi^ they, on behalf of their clients, were perfectly willing to meet the other party on any division or view of the subject which they might choose to bring forward. Mr HcNSLBT remarked that they had no intention of laying any document of the kind described before the court; but would, take as a guide the resolutions and. the Act of the Assembly, and bring up from time to time what was laid before them. Hons Messrs. Cole?. Swabey, Whelan, as well as several other gentlemen also biiefly addressed the Coromissipners, chiefly on points respecting the course they intended to (lursne ia hearing the statements of parties. The Commission.ers ex- pressed their desire to give every case an impartial hearing, either through the roundel, or from the indivi§ the Government here J*honld be prepared to pursue, when Wimetances should render it advisable for effectually revesting the Crown such lards as may be liable to be oschonted; also nnute of Council of April 2, 1803, staling that the Lieut. ive-nor gave his assent to a Bill for efFctually rovesting in ^s tiajesty all such lands as are liable to forfeiture within this land; and also a series of resolution^ passed 20th Nov., 180&, lih respect to the Royal allowanco to said Act not being com-' nnioated to the Colony] liCem. flowB. — Could tha I;egi9latnre tr.ioe that Act through ^ archives to satisfy themselves ? Not satisfiictorily. ' Com. Ritchie. — Had the Island at any time an agent in- Ingland ? Yes. Who ? Myself At whut time were yntttu lere? In 1839. Did you take any stops when there to see jrhaf became of this Bill ? I did not. Has any steps bem taken the Colony to search tho records in the Colonial Office ? am not aware of any- a THE LAND COMMISSION. Com. HawB, — Mad the Act a snspeading clause ? Not any. Are there anv traces on the records of ihis Colony to show that the Act was disallowed t None. Coun. HjENSLEY. — la the Act printed among the law* i No, it ii only referred to in the marsinal notes. Cora. HowB. — The marginal note says—*' the Act has not received the Royal Allowance," and any Cleric in England known to have made a false statement in a matter of this kind, woald be committed to the Tower. Is there any despatch to •bow that U was disallowed? None. The Act as printed in the Journals of 1836 was then read. After several inquiries on the part of the Commiasionersrit could not be ascertained how the marginal note stating that the Act was disallowed came on the Statute Book. Com. RiTOHiB. — If there had been no disallowance, after three years it would have fnlly become the law of the land. Conn. Thomsoit. — In the absence of positive evidence that Jbe law was disallowed, why not act upon it I "* Hon. Mr. Colbs —It i« supposed Gov.,Smith did act upon it, when he escheated two townships; but they construed it as if it had not been the law of the land. Since it was the only Act sent home that year, perhaps the despatch was not recorded. Mr. W. H. Popie before the Commissioners. Com. Orav^ — Will you explain to us the allowing oi dis- allowing of this Act? 1 know nothing about it, save whtt ap- pears in the marginal notes; — I have never been able to find a copy of the Act as it was pas^ied. Are the records of that period kept with any regularity ? I have not searched fully for a copy of the original bill. It appears by the manuscript journals of the House that in 180S the Act just read was passed by that body in March, and afterwards assented to by Gov. Fanning. The neit session was in 1895, when an address was presented to the Govemoi , inquiring what had become of the Act, a!id a Committee appointed to bring in a new bill of the same nature; but I cannot ascertain that it was ever in- tioduced Hon. Mr. Colbs. — I find a document dated 1806, among the records of the Legislature, purporting to be an extract of a letter from Mr. Knox, the colonial agent, in which he alludes to the Act as being mislaid in the Colonial office, and then re- fers to the new bill and the opposition made to it by the pro- prietors. Com. 6r AT. — Was there a suspending clause to the first bill? Mr. Pope. — There was, founding my opinion on a minute of Council. Com. HowB. — The Act as printed in the journal of 1836 has no suspending clause; and having been based on a despatch, i* is nol reasonable to suppose that a clause of that kind l •f ft THE LAND COMMISSION. proprietors had forfeited their Innda, and thtit then it was dis- allowed. [Here reads a proclamatiua b^ Gov. Smith in 1818« and speaka ofita injarious resalts aa being calcalated to deceive the people]. Coun. PALMBRcrosfl-examinea Mr Cooper. — Yon havereaid- ed here for some time? I have. Are yon h leaseholder? Both a free and a leaae holder. When did yon take year ieaan? About 1826. From whom? I waa agent of the Lot at the time, 1 did not think it right to take it myself. Another leaaed it in my name, and I took a bond from him &c. Who waa proprietor? Lord Tow naend. What was theterm? 84years. What rent? Is. an acre. What quantity of land? 106 acres, including a marah. I had alao a leaae of a mill atream with wliich I parted, that contained 80 aorea. What did you receive for it? JC600 for the milla and it. Have yon any idea of the value of the I marah and aU? I never negotiated for its aale If I aold it, 1 i would be glad to get 208 an acre for it and the price of the Ibuildlnga. How long liaa the leaae rnn? 44 yeara. Did you Ire-ieaaa it? I did. For what aum? j£26a year — that ii a fall- [atocked farm. ai^ Commissioners propose a few questions.— Did you get your rent? I had to arrest the tenant. Why did he not pay yoat [(No aatiafaotory answer.) Ife meant to pay. Did be diapnti ^our title? He did not. Did you pay the Quit reata to the Koprietora? They were auspended for a long time, or not tzaoted. What actual amount did Lord Townaend expend upon |t before you took it? Nothing. Your labor haa made it vala> ible? It haa. Lord Townaend proposed to sell hia estate for Ba* an acre. I called a meeting jf the tenants and proposed to khem to purchase it, but could not make any arrangement. fhert was tho Land Tax act passed? About 1880. If called bpon to pay the Quit Rents from the time you went there would iron think it proper? I think the tenants would not be willing. low long were you agent? From .'19 to '28. Were the quit snts collected with regularity? I did not collect them from im. Did Lord Townsend receive rent from these lands? I link he received about JCS60 during the time I was agent. Did Du receive a fixed salary? I was paid my expenses How iny tenants were there? From 80 to 100 Did Lord Town- Imd receive rent from any of the previous agents? He wcnid Bceive about £300 oi £400 a year. [Com. Howe remarked lat during hia agency Townsend would be entitled to £24,> too.] My impreasion was that the abaentee proprietors receiv- bd little or nothing from the tenants. Whether would you ^athc/ have been proprietor or agent? In fact it was worth |ilUe or nothing to the proprietor. Counsel, HcNsiiBir. — How long had you been on the Island rhen you became agent? A short time. Did you give leases to many? I did. Where dif" the tenants come from? Cape jBreton, Newfoundland dtc. You did not send for them? I did (not. All the leases were for unimproved land? Yes. Does thia Township (-66) front on the sea ahore? It doea. Did you lease [land 00 the shore? Yea, for at that time there was very little M THE LAND COMMISSION. M i said about fishery re^ierves; and in thL partioalar I followed the oKample of those who preceded me. Have yoa fishery reserves on yoar land? Yea, and pay rent for them to IVIr Haviland. Can you give the name of any farmer who has land leased down to high water mark? One M' Donald has. I gave no leases on the oataide shore. Were any freeholds sold by Townsend? Mr Haviland has sold lome, I believe. Do yoa owe any rent your- self? One or two years'. What is the cost of clearing land? From JE3 to j£4 per acre. — 2C00 acres of Refugee land were rented with the rest. Hon. Mr. Coles before the Court. Mr CojsKB. — I was not aware until yesterday that I would have the privilege of addressing thid honorable Court. It behoves, however, every man interested in the welfare of this Colony, to render every assistance he can afford yonr Honors in coming to a correct decision upon this question. It is a qaestion out of which different political parties have made political capital. I was for somo time opposed to the Gsoheai mOTdment, because the Home Government appeared to have set its face against the agitation of the question. Taking this vie>v of the mutter, 1 thought it would be much better to enter into an. arrangement with the Proprietors respecting Xhb pur chase of their linuls. After I had obtained a seat in the Legis- iatare, ia 1842, I proposed a Land Purchase Bill similar to the one now in operation. This Bill was opposed, and another, one somewhat repulsive, as it would compel the proprietors to sell, was introduced. When Responsible fiovernment was granted, the Purchase Bill pasaed, and £30,000 appropriated for pnrchasing lands. Subsequbntly the Tenants' Compensa- tion Bill, ::.nd Rent Roll Bill, wee paased. [iVIr. C explained the objects contemplated by thei^e Bills.] When Mr. Lubon- cbjre came into office in 1855, he proposed an extension of the Parohase Bill, based upon a guarantee by the Lt. Governor. During the nc^t Session of Parliament, Lord Stanley, in an able speech on the subject, proposed that £100,000 be guaran teed to establish the bill. Before the bill was read a second time. Lord S. was appointed to another office, and liia saccessor viewed the subject in a difftsreiit tight. In the mean lime the proprietors had ased their influence against the bill Com. Hows. — What motive could they havo had in endeav- oring to defeat it? Mr Coles.— rAgents were more opposed to it than pro- prietors, though in the Houbq of Assembly both voted against it. Proprietors opposed the prosent Commission; A rumor has gone abroad that this hon Commission is bound down by Lord Rus- sell's Despatch. The Loan Bill Despatch was not binding Another rumor has been circaiated to this effect, that 60 years* possession by the proprietors will exclude the Commission from interfering; bat the proprietors are bound by the conditions of the granls.evenif a thousand years have transpired, in reference to (he settlement of the tenantry, it has been said their eyes were open. Bat the people were poor; besides, many of them were induced to coma hero-by the proprietors. They paid theicown passage.and THE LAND COMMISSION.!' tr upon laDding, had not a shilling. Agents here were interoited in getting tlietn aattlod. Freqaently they were compoiled to make roadd for themselves, and to carry their provisions home upon their backs. In many cusos, they only received a Minute of greement for their farms. The lease' was withheld until they I procured money to pay for it. iVIany signed leases without I scarcely knowing what they did. These leases bound their per- sons as well as thoir properties. Some lost their lives by means of incarceration for rent. There are but little or no arrears of [rent due by the tennntry, all things considered Mr Coles next entered Tally into the Quit Rent question. JHe read various Despatches upon this subject, which showed (that the proprietors had never paid any Quit Rent up to 1823, ind that they were liable for about £140,000, which he thought Ishoald, in justice, be rigorously demanded. He did not know iivhy they should claim to be relieved from them when the people liad to pay their Quit Ilents for lands worth nothing Sometimes they put expenses of X8 or jE9 on pasture lots to collect 2s. Thus ^ey hiid given a precedent for proceedin| against defaulters. le read extracts from the Legislative Journal of 1839, to )roye that as late as that date the British Government leld the proprietors liable for all the arrears of quit rents. During the session of that year, Lieut. Governor TitzRoy sent the following message to the House of As- sembly — ** The Lieutenant Governor lays before the House Df Assembly, for their information, tfje copies of a cox- ^espondenoe which has passed between Her Majesty's lovernment and Mr George R Young, relative to the Lrrangement agreed to by the Earl of Ripon, in 1833, for ^he commutation of the Quit Rents in this Island." The lature of the arrangement of the Ealrl of Ripon, mentioned this message, may be learned from this extract of his lespatoh, viz : — *' During the first two years after the kxpiration of the five years for which the claim to Quit lent has been suspended [i.e., during the continuance of \q first Land Assessment Act,] the Quit Rents should bo ftdeemable at fifteen years' purchase ; during the next jferiod of two years, they should be redeemable at eigh- 3en years' purchase. At all subsequent periods, they should be redeemable at twenty years' . purchase. The ;!aim to Quit Rent will revive retrospectively, as well as )rospeetivoly, at the termination of the existing agree- lent But following the analogy of the measure adopted for New Brunswick, I am of opinion, that the arrears, up Ito the time when the plan I have described will come [into operation should be remitted." .j ', In reference to this proposed arrangetnent for comma* tation, it is stated in a letter from Mr Spearman, Secre- tary to the Lords Commissioners of Her Majesty's Trea- sury, published among the above-mentioned copies of correspondence in the Journal of 1839, that •• the Pi«h. « I UK' il THE LAND COMMISSION. prietori omitting or deferring to commate become liable to the Tax or Rent; and no remiseion of such liabilitj would be granted nor would the oommutation be complet- ed nor the title ol the Proprietor to the unincumbered [property, or to the release from the condition reajpeoting ooation of settlers, be perfected, without the liquidation of all arrears of Rent." From these and other extracts, Mr Ooles argued that as 60 years, according to the statute of limitation, had not elapsed since 1838, the dato of Mr Spearman's letter, by which they were held liable for arrears of quit rent, they were still under obligation to liquidate them. At the cloie, the ComniiMionera thanked Mr Coles for the in- formation be bad aiTordttd, and expreised a desire to receive any farther information Ite had to communicate at a fatore time. Court adjourned at 4 o'clock. FxiSAT, Sept. 7. Mr Coles again before Commissioners.— He proceeds further to prove that at different periods far short of 60 years since, not only did the Home Qovernment claim the right to the arrears of quit rent, but that this rieht was aoKnowledged by the Colony. He reads from the Journal of 1852 p. 115, extracts from an Address of the House to Governor Bannerman, as follows — ** The HoQie of Aatembly would here oh8e''ve, thai in the year 1829, an Addresa was prosentRd by the Houae of that day to the then Lieut. Governqr, to be forwarded to His lata Majes- ty Ring George the Fourth, wherein His Majesty's risht is fully recognized, as is shown by the followmg paragraph taken there- from — * We have learned with dismay that your Majesty has been ad- vised to order the collection of the arrears of Quit Rents, due by this Island, from the 1st day of January, 1828. While we ac- knowledge the justice ofypur Majesty's claim, which we would most cheerfally discharge, did our ability correspond with our in- clination, we are constrained to declare — humiliating as the con- fession is — that the. whole circulating medium of the Colony would be inadequate to meet one-fourth of this large accumulating sum.' '* To which the following reply was conveyed to the Lient. Qovernor.by Despatch,bearingdate Downinc at ,1st Sept. ,1829.*' ' I have to desire you will acquaint the Legislature in reply, that as far as circumstances will permit. His Majesty's Govern- ment have every desire to comply with the prayerof the Address: I ahall therefore be prepared to advise His Majesty to accept of a permanent grant of jEIOOO per annum, in lieu of any further demand on account of arrears of accruing Q,ail Rents, &c.* " To this Despatch the House of Assembly, on 26th April, 1880, drew up a reply, from which the following extract is res- pectfully submitted: i iioqswti' THE LAND COlfMISflON. m < Wbila w« nsknowifdf* your Majsity'i ondoobtod right to the i payroeat of thaae renti, and ftel gratefal Tor lh« liberality display- ed io the offer to eommote ihem, our dety to yoer Majeety oem- [peliiaato ftatethe reawni by which we hare been actaated in fnpt availiof oaraelvea of the proposed oommtiiation.' " Com. Gbat.— In tbif lalend waa thero •tot anything eoatri- [bttted ont of the fanda ariaing from land toward* the pnblie bniM- liogi? Mr. CoLVs.— There wiit a faod aoerning from Lota IS and [SS.which were oaeheated in 1818. which waa appropriated to the Ibnildingof the Lnnatic Asvlnm. The Colonial Baildiog and IGovernment Honse were boilt oat of the general fonq. [Ha then k'emarked that neither to the proprietora nor the j^enpla was there irer any eommaiation of qait rente, as they had nr coniptied ith the offers of the Crown, and referred to some M;d eases Mcernini the eolleetion of qait rents at CavendMh a Joat I8S0. fe also abowed the different ratea oTqnit rent which ihe several rowaabipe were liable to, etating that he obtained hie infornria- ion from pbblio docomonta. as therewere 8 Townshipe not on le reoordp.] i Com. Hows,— I thooght that all these granta were givan at ^na time. Mr. CoLBs— So it appears, but still 8 are not on reoord. Com. Gray. — The Qlaimantsof these 8 Townaliipa have never heeived copies of their grants. Did the persons to whom they nrere said to be (jranted take possession, and have they been in Nnesslon ever since ? Mr. CoiiBs. — Some took posseasion. ^* Com. Gray.— If there were no grants ander whioh they laimed, wonld they not be in adverse possession ? Mr. Cot.Bs.-> The mandamus nnder the anthority of which the rants were drawn oat would ahow what amoent of qait rent was ) be paid on each Townahip. Com. Ritchie. — What yon have tidvanced is of no practical tilily. Their position would bo all the better if they had not laintained that they had titles. I think we may assume that key had grants; it is for the interest of the Colony to assume is, for they wonld have a good title by posgesaion. If they had > grants, how could tboy have fixed eondilions. It is so mueh ie better for the country that they did pretend to have them. Q Com. Gbav. — For which Townships are there no grants re- lorded ? Coan. Henslby.— 6, 8, 12, 20, 25, 44 and 46. The tenants iin these Townships have been disputing for many years with the slaimants. Mr OoiiBs then read a report from the House of Assem- >ly Journal for 1853, respeofing the case of Neil Darraoh, to prove that if tenants cannot produce receipts, when [sued for rent, they are in for any sum which the proprie> tor may assume. The attorney of B. H. Cumberland [issued two writs, at diflferent periods, for rent and arrears of rent, against Neil D^rraoh, obtained judgment, and levied two ezecutipus, for the sums respectively of jE^44 II I m THK LAND COMMISSIOM. laa 6d, and £37 12f 6d ; and when the leaie and Tonohera - and the periods for which the said rent was elatmed under the 6rit writ were examined, it wae found that the Bum of £3 18s 2d only was due. For the Orst sum a levj was made and Darraoh, not being able to pay, was arrest- ed and imprisoned, th6ugh upwards of 70 years of age ; and whilst so imprisoned was served with another writ for the second sum, being arrears of rent and costs. ' Com. RiTcniK.— I think this case does not come within 'our Jurisdiction. The House of Assembly bad a better opportunity than we to investigate the matter. ' , sir OoLfs #gain read from the Journals respeotinc^ a ease in Chancery in reference to rent and the oppression of the proprietors. The proprietors, he remarked, by not nMking good their claims, bad caused these disputes. Ditfereat persons claimed the same Township, then the; made a compromise and divided the Lot among them. ^U they require is to get a man to attorn, and when tbii is accomplished, they are all ri^bt. An Act cannot be raised in the local IJe^islature, affecting the pr6i)rietoT8, ut what is met by their opposition in the Colonial Office. Petitions bad been sent to the Home Government represent- ing the grievances of the people. They are continually trou- bled with these petitions, and if this system be not wiped away, they would be always troubled. He might men- tion another case with respect to constituencies. When a proprietor becomes involved, a man would come along and oner him a sum for his estate ; a bargain is made for a small sum, and alter he becomes established, he begins to exercise political power over his tenants. Coun. Haliburton thought these remarks were foreign to the subject. Com. Ghat. — It shows the state and feelings oi the Colony. ^ Mr CoLBS. — Another thing I might mention is, that %hen a new proprietor comes in, tenants must take new leases ; and if they resist, what is the result? Writs of ejectment are issued against them. Coun. THOifSON. — Is it the case with leases for a term of 999 years, that when a new heir comes in, new leases must be taken. Mr. Coles. — No. in every case. Com. Ritchie. — It occurs to me that these parties in point of law coold eject the tenant ; bat the honest proprietor says to him, yoQ have not a gjood title, I wish to give you one. In this respect, I think the landlord acts honorably. ^ Inr. Coles. -^ After all the people are at the mercy of the pro- pHetors. Xafely there has been, I understand, dili»ence on ihe part of the proprietors to obtain notes of hand from tenants in ar- rears. [Proprietors* attornies showing uneasiness at this state- ment. Com. Hb;ve remarked, these gentlemen think it is a fore- THE LAND COMMISSION. It )na ease iriliU haa occarred.] Tn cute yoiii decide to eecWt liees Undi, I like to ■trengihen your haodc I tarn ap the oen- !■ ten yean after the indalgence, and aaeerlain the popolation t that period. The proprietora were boand to have the Town- iipa aellled by thdt time in the proportion or One peraoa to every Vo hindred acrea, whether with Toreiga Proteatania or not. I jiow Mr. Cooper haa been oenaared by many for hia extreme ivva, bat by the cenaua or 1827, I find that only 16 Townahfpi [d 100 male peraona on th ^m over 20 yenra of age. On Lot 66 tre waa only one, and on 67 none. ;om. Gr iy.— Yoo aay male aettlera. Would yoa not call a ^d healthy woman a aetller? (Laughter.) Ir. CoLia. — Women and children cuald not be inoladed, Tor that caae the proprietora woold aoon get their landa aettled. ' oonaolting the Journal of 1889, p 8S, I aaeertain that 54 Town- were 90I aettlod in accordance with the indulgence of 1818. ;om. HowB.— The oenaua ahow that \f a Court of eaeheat then been eaiabliahed, these landa eould have been eacheat- At the preaeot day, it ia another oneation. |r. CoLia then referred to the Land Parehaae Bill.— The pro- lore and agenia were unwilling to comply with 'he viewa of Legialatnre in carrying out ita provisiona. At the purohaae lie Worrel Estate, the acting traatee and aolioitor of that ea- [interfered. The eatate waa not auld by the proprietor but |ia truateea. Some of the truateea by private communication roeabera of the local Government of that day, were nware fact, that the Governii>ent wiNlied to purohatie ii. They to rocummend to ihu proprititor tu ahW it for JE 10,000. A 'iwaa furwarded in Mr. VVorroirts Hulicitor at home. The |ea were authorized to 8«ll, h»i the propositiun was nut sub* to, the QovRrnnitiiit. Tliu ulturnoy of Mr. Worrell, ^er-in-law to the acting IruHtees, went to England about ihia l,and shortly ufter returiied , hnving purchaaod the estate for jerably loaa than lllr. Won ell htid authorized it to be sold I Goveramant, tu wlium it was then oflured for double the In making out a casa lor tiiu tunantry, the Counsel should |l these circumstances into considerrition, and not be con- what is merely rcpresenlud to them by the friends of the fnment. ^ In. Thomson. — The Gnvernmeut have placed into my 'a brief of which I need not beaahuined. Col. Gray. — I beg leave to remark thdt the Govern- of which I am a member, have HoiirJied the services of Thomson, and placed in his hands an unlimited brief. Mr. Coles. — In another case, an entnte, that of Lord \kf about to be offered to the Government was purchased by gent acting for that piopriutor. Lord Selkirk knew the nmeut were deslroufl to purchase his estate, as the loan bill sen passed. But through the lepresentations of his agent, ^d part of it, for something less than the Government had for the Worrel estate. The result of this transfer was thai lont who purchased it, sells is for £3 an acre, or lets it at ileaaes. These facts show that the tenants have been dealt 2 M 14 THE LAND COMMISSION. iviib anfairly. — I may next refer to ibo caio o( tho loyaliati. It M well known that theae peraona gave ap their landa in the United Stalea under the belief thiit ihoy would receive aa good proper- liBi aathey left. In the Journal of I8S3, p. 11, I find Mr. Brec* ken and otbera took np the quoalion on behalf of the loynlitla. It •ppeara from iheir report (bat a number of proprietora bad Indu- eed Americnn Loyalisia to aoltle hero. They were promiaed in- dvlgcnce, or nbaiement of quit rent, and one fourth of the landi •et uppnaite the reapective proprietora' namea. Thoy (hua gavo •p 200,0U0 acrea for tho loynliaia on term* aimilar to thoae le- eeived by otbera in Nova Scotia. They promiaed to put them in poaaeadion of them free of exponae. There waa, however, no diapoaition on the part of the proprietora, with one or two excep- tiona, to fulfil their Hgroemeni. Tho loyaliala were kept in a •tnte of conatant disquietude. At length an Act waa pnaaed in 1790, with a suspending cliiuae, giving the Lieut. Governor power Co grant them auch lands aa had been agreed lobe given ihem by lh« proprietora. Few, however, obtained them. They remon- strated. One of their numlier who biid been a aoldier, and wai poraonally known to one of (he auiboritiea in England, went to the Colonial Office, and the consequence of hismiaaion waa that nearly all the loyaliala on tho Township owned by Governor Fan* aing, ahortly afterwards received thoir landa. Coin. Howe. — fa there a large body of theae people here now! Mr. Coi.Ba. — No, many of them became disheartened and left the country. The proprietora save np theae landa to th« Government, and they wern conaidered to belong to it for the Iryalisia; but the proprietora have aince taken poaaeaaion of them In abort, the loynlislii were persecuted in a abameful manner.— i may next refer lo iho Fii«h<>ry Reserves. With reapeot to them I lenrn from ibu JournnI of 1839, appendix B, that they are oftwi Itinda, and ibat the proprietors up lo that lime had never thong Ihpy bad a right lo tlieiii. In 32 Townships ihe reservation is « followH.' — " And further saving a reserve, for ihe ditpotal of h Majetiy, hia ht'ira a lul^ successors, of 600 feet from high wat Binrk, on ihe coast of the iract of land hereby granted, to erecl ■iHgeH and oilier neces.saiy building!* for carrying on the fishery." In 12 Townnbips ihe reservation runs (hua— "And further lavi a reserve and free liberty to all Mis Miijnsly'a aubjects, of carrj in){ on n free fishery or fi^beriea, within (he distance of 000 fe from high water mark." Of the remnining 23 Townships, II eunlain no fi^'iery reMeryos; and of five no grants whatever a on record. In proof that at tlial time, the proprietora conaideri they bad no ri>{ltl lo the fi-«hi>ry reservea is, (I read from (I Journal of 1829). " n li'tler from Mr. Uoberl Stewart under dnt 22J IMarob. 1833. in wbieii he agrees to accept a lease of lii fishery Hliullin<{ on bin properly, at n reasonable rate. This leli (er \* traosoiittiMl in a dexpaicli from Vi^couut Goderieh lo Sir W. Younj;. d.iied 2.)tli March, 1833, wherein he is authorized grant to Mr Stewart, or any other proprietor under similar cii eumrttanee<«, wlio oiay apply lo him. a lease on equitable condi tiooM, of Huch pnrlH on ihi- apace of 500 feet above high wall nt'irk, ri'servHil in the Oown as may border on theproperty persons applying to biin." From tho whole of the ci use VVou appro Mr Cjt of the there Mr Cor rights purpo priotu poses. ahip Con do JO ap • Mr Ciiin Island settlet quest! opinio THE LAND U0MMI8HI0N. 15 rnte. ThU let! reipnndeneti oat of which I hnve rnpd (h«su Axiraelt, I eonoludo the propriotnrt havo no tight whii(«!v«'r to iheta |re««rveii. The opiniixi or (hit Crown liiw ofl'icttrii tnken la 1644 in roferenoe to tiit'' (uostion is found in tlie Journal I of that dato, apporulix i' Thia opinion goos to show tbat whoro the land was rooorved in the Crown, the pro- prietors had no rip^lit to it whatever. It appears to be on {the same footing with the Clergy Reserves. Com. KiTcniE. — Assuming it tt he quostionahio thai ItbeQovernmont have a riglit to grant the Ushcry rei<(frvea fur agricultural purposes, wnat witnld bo the result ? Mr OoLKS. — Acnording to the opinion of the oruwn law |offiocrs they havo no such right. Oom. RiTCUiB — You miiuinderstand rae. Wore it thaa I that the Crown could no moro grant the reserves for anj other purpose than it oouid a road, what would be tha jpruotioal result? Mr Coles. — I may asauino that it oouid not ; hut the iQoverninent should be the conservators of the public in* Iterest, and see that tiie proprietors did not appropriata tbom. Com. RiTcniK. — Is it essential for the prosperity of tba Island that they be reserved f<;r ibis puiposo ? Mr Cor.ES. — The idea is that tbo fiubermcn should bava I lotne land to cultivate also. Com. RiTcaiK. — This is not satisfactory yot. Denying that they have been transferred to the proprietors, whak I use is this belt separating their land froia the coast? Would it not accord with publio sootiment to tuve soma {appropriation of it ? Mr CoLKS — Certainly. dm. GuAY. — We Wish to know\rhat is for the intereafe I of the Island. Supposing a pcrHon desired to build a ship there, could he build one ? Mr Cjlks -«-There is where legislation is required. Com. liiTCUiu — LegiHiation never violates privata I rights. Supposing tlio Crown granted them for fishing purposfs only, it would he direct violation of the pro- prietors' rights to appropriate them for agricultural pur- poses. It appears to mo also that il a person builds a •hip there, he violates the proprietors' riglits. Com, Hows. — Looking at the proppcrity of the Colony, Ido you not think that these reserves ought tu be broken up?;.Md merged into private property? Mr Coles — ' This is wiiat we imvo been contending for. Oom. HowK — If 5U(> feet were reserved all round the jlsland, the sea coast would never ioiprove because tta JBettlement would he prevented. N Prince Perdinind of Urunsifvick, and fought at the celebrated battle of Minden, bat whether the grant was obtained as a re- muneration for military services, or otherwise, your Commiitee have no means of ascertaining. 3e this as it may, Mr Winter can.e to the Island about tlw year 1771 or '72, and having brought with his family a. few 8ervantSi.aad trades-people, es- tablished himself nn^the northern extremity of the Township, fronting on the Gulf of St. Lawrence. The Township was then, and, indeed, aearly the whole bland, an anbroHen forest, desti* M 5BHW- ^mmm li i;i 18 THE LAND COMMISSION. ~tnte of all meann of comtnantRali>n, except by Wdler, eitliBi- «vilh )he infant stttileriients thit beg:in about ihut time to be roruied.or wiiii Ched the appointment of Provost Marshal of the Colony, returned to the hiand, in order to make the most of his precarious interest in the Township, which he had again mortgaged to a ^^r Kirkman of London, for a large sum, obtained at -exor'uitant 'nlereat, Kirkrnan redeeming Clerk's mortgage to secure his own. Winter, after an ab'^onoe of thir- teen or fnui teen years, found t^ie Township without a hamaa inhabitant, and having located himself on th it part that is in- tersHr:ied by the Hunter Kiver, near to what is now called New Glar4^ow, ht) induced sever.kl families to sellie in Cavendish, wherd ha had formerly resided, giviog leasee for the term of 99>) yKarit. ami to one individu.J executed a Deed in fee sim-; pie of a farji), for which he, received payment; the leases , weie at. the rate of one Hiiilling per acre, and Winter con- tinued to receive the rents until ihe year IS05, when he^la^t went to Kngland, where he died, aflct he had executed A L)i;ed in foe >«iiii|jle for the entire Township tu Kirkman', who soma 3iears afurvvard sold it to David llennie. Esq , of Glasgow, 'who ap|»iiii!ed Mr Peter AlvVuiilane, hisi bro;her-in-law, his g'^nt and attorney. iNl'Ausl.ine rel'uHod lo «cknowl«d;»e the validity of any tenures {^iven by Winter, on the ground that his title to make any such dispoiiition of the land was superseded by the m '.rr^ag'^^e, and brought actions of ejectment agtiutit the les<«ees of iV'in'er; and aUhough he was nonsuited, throutth the incapacity of his aittirnay, the tenants were thereby subjected to iriuch harra8sins inconvenience and considerable cot>ts, and in the vear 181^, when the payment of C^uit llentsi was enforced, the Cav«»ndish weiilers were distrained upon by the lleceiver General's Uaiiilfftir ihefnll amnuni of Quit lienl.nnd subjected - to a ruinous amount ol costs attendant upon the distraint, though 'not ucknowiedged as legal tenants by the proprietor; and subse- quentiy were compelled to purchase thnir farins at the rate of one pound per tacre, which had been rendered valuable solely by their hard labor and industry, — in reclaiming f>nm the forest what was of no value to the |>roprietor without their exertions, -in which they had persevered without the slightest encourage- -menl from either the- original grantee or his immediate sue- .rOe^sors. ;. Thus far vou' Committee have deemed it a duty to recite the -history of the Township, as a specimen of the injury the eirly settlers have sustained through defective title; and now proceed ir- THE LA.ND COMMISSION. 19 ir; nnd subse- to remark on the terma (hit Irive hnan impnsod at Inter periods. In the years I8U) and '20. the propriKtor ment from the Wt^nt of Scotland a number of lamilied, consisting of ngriculinrists and niechitnici, to sellle thu I'liwnship, which befurti thi.4 liine hud no more than ten or twelvt) riinilioj on it^ whole area of 20,001) acres. The^e emigrants, ih>»u>{h "ond practical farmers in their own ountry, had no experience of the ditHauliy '.)rdubiuin<; (ha primitive forest, in 4)rder to their U>Hnvleected that arrears of rent ah'tuld accuma* late, producing a parrilyzing effect on their energies, discnarag- Ing their fimilioB, inducing their sons to emigrate to the Westera states or Canada, therehy depriving them of the aid of which ley had indulged ihe fond anticipation; whilst in fheir earlier |ays they were exhausting their strength and undermining their institutions by the crui^hing labor inevitably connected with 18 process of reclainiiog fire.^t laud. Tue res due of the 'I'own- lip has since been settled ou e(|ually disadvantageous term?; id in many cases short leases have been given, so that every !itr as it passes renders the tenure of le-«s value to ih-t tenant lid more to the proptietor. 8uch tenures h ive been very gen- ral on the Is'and, and llieir tHndency has been must i< j irious the development of its agricultural resources, — and if not imedicd by some equitable measure, by which the leasehold Inurps may be convetted into freehidds, the stafe of the rural Ipuhtion of the colony will be little superii^r to that of the serf:! 'the Russian empire, and will coniinue, as it already his too [en been, the dup^s of political demagogues, who, in oider to :ure for themselves power and position in society, h tve held to the deludtd tenantry hop'fs and expectations whioh soiittt ^themselves knew well could never be realized. rYuur committee are constrained to remirk, thit the circulat- ig medium of the' colony is totally inadequ ite t'> meet the emand of the annaally accruing rent; and when, as his snme- les been the case, the landlords or their ag^fiits have agreed commute for produce |>ayments, the tt^nant is umler the neces- Ity of submitting to snch valuation of the property as may suit ie cupidity or caprice of the exactor. And the consid^ratioo lut the Island by ihe length and seveiity of the winter, is for Nearly six months of the year excluded from all foreign markets, ie surplus produce is thereby subjeitted to a de|ireciatiim in jirices, which operates to thediscouragHineni of pr-iduction. And In additim to this unhappy Mtate «if things, the greater number Bfthe proprietors of extensive traces of land, being non residents r 1- 1 ! u vw^*« 11 I 'III is*'.. J' •, y * i 1 ^2P THE hklSD COMMISSION. in the colony, the remittanca of rents operates as a perpetq«l drain, exhaudting the limited money resources of the Island. It is also woriliy of grave consideration, that the expense of all public buildings, road commanicalio.i, bridges and wharf«, Jias been chiedy borne by the tenantry, who con^titnlo rour-|if(hN of the cun'^umeri' of dutiable merchandize, and are bound by their leases to pay all Quit Rents to the Crown, and taxes and asfiessmenta levied by acts of the local legislature upon the Tpwnship lands of the colony. It app enefitof thefiah- etiu?; bat the grantee and his aasigns, totally disregardmg this prudent reservation, have, by selling and leasing all and every portion of those reserve*, thereby precluded the public s* large of all ingress and egress in certain portions of the coast which present the greatest facilities for prosecuting the fisheries with ^dvApt^Vge, and from all other benefits that rn^y be derived from 'that impqrtant and increasing branch uf industry .T-prevenfing the inveatn^ent of capital, not only by Her Majesty's subjects, .but many enterprising foreigners, who are anxious to ohtain iopa- tions on the coasts and shores for fishing purposef; whilst the experience uf the laf*t few years has led to the itable ■that such was not the cuse as regards the reserves for the ben- efit of the fishery on the coasts and shores of the Giulf of St. .liAwrence, where the water teems wiih almost interminable «hoal8, in great variety, of a commodity sure to command remu- porative prices in the markets of the world. sinnh are. some, and only a. part of the evils that have resulted from the proprietary grants in gener>n of iho Imp'-rinl Government, in | giving grants of township Inndi to individuals, to subjact the «ettldrs of thoite town-hipi to k state of vassalage, from which the people of the other North American Provinces are wholly exempt, as regards their lind tenuro.s ; and have ma,de the foregoing statement of facts, which art) susceptible of proof, con- fidently expecting that the Royal Commission will take the! whole into its favorable consideration, and adopt such measures in the premises as may seem best calculated to promote the eridnj of justice and equity, and allny an excitement that has for nearly! half a century greatly im|jeded the progress, and retarded not^ only the prosperity of this township, but of the Island, as com- pared with other Colonies. Coinmisaioners propose u few questions to Mr.M'Neili.— hi 'there much of that -rown^hip held in fee pimple? Conside/abie.r What is the term of tna leases? From 60 to 999 years Yoil idcflire to have them convened into freeholds? Jfoit. eertainly'\ •■What is the value of land? I would give about ha,lforwh«t!th<| THE LAND COMMISSION. ai proprietor aiks — 10s. an acre — for my own rarm, which, how- flver, having a water front, possesses advanta(tes sopericr to lands in the interior of the Township. Suppose we gave yoa a clear title for a piece of land extending 600 fe«t from high water mark, what woald it be worth? No more than the rest. What is your opinion respecting the land tenures? I believe they are the bane of the Colony. — From the knowledge I have of the feeling of the people, I believe they would rather emigrate than [pay rent. ^ Conn. HKNSI.BT then introduced a Committee from Lot 22; iTheir chairman, Mr Rrbert Simpson, presented a Memorial, Iwhich was read by Mr Hensley, and is as follows: — \Tj the ffonorablca J. H. Gray, Josbph Howe, and! J W. Ritchie, Commissionera appointed by Her Majesty for investigating matters m dispute between Landlord and Tenants on Township lands in P. E. Island. The Memorial of the Tenants on Lot or Township Twenty- kwo, respectfully sheweth — That we, your memoiialists, are settlers on the above Town- ship, claimed to be the property of the Right Hon. Lnwrence laliivan; and we beg to lay befoie your Honprable Commission lie claims which we prefer, and the grievances, privations, and hardships under which we have labored, and do still labor, aa jnants. In the first place, we would state that the settlement of this Township began in the year 18)6, about which ti(ne ten or reive leases were granted by Mr Haszard, who was then agent, six-pence currency per acre, for a term of lOUO years. From his time until 1839 — a period of about thirty years — no person id authority to let or sell land in the Township. H«*rtce it ppears that this Lot became liable to forfeiture, not having a Efficient number of settlers at the expiration of the indulgenco 1826. In 1839, Mr Lewellin h-iving been empowered t«i sell jid let, granted a large number of leases on this Lot at nn^ shil- Vg^erting per acre, for the term of one hundred years, con« Ijning a clause enabling the tenant to purchase at any lime Hthin the term of lease — which clause the subsequent agent, ^on af'er appointed, positively refused to sict upon, thus disap^ liming certain individuals who demanded a fee simple convey- |hce of their leasehold interests in accordance with their lenses. In the second place, we deeply regret to have it to state that ire are ii.volved in large arrears ol rent, due to the Proprietor, roin sheer inability on ihe part of the tenants to pay — for the 'lowing r*HS(>M8, lo which we beg leave to call your attention: We believe that in no new country, even when possesi^ing puperior soil and climate, can the new settler, commencing rithout c.-ipital ("as u invariably tite case here) clear away the forest and obtain from the soil a sufficient return to give him 9ven a scanty subsistence in a less period of time than twenty [years' cultivation. In proof of this, we submit that cleHring laway the wood costs at least Four pounds ten shillings per acre, {while anjr crop which can be grown will not realize t'le coat ol { .til ■■'11 ^2 THE LAND COMMISSION. IPi ;i' removing tho wood, together with fencing, planting and har- veslins;, for many yearv. It ia true that owin<{ to the barning of the wood where cat down, tho potash which is deposited in the soil will force one or even two crops on oar host land«; but it ia then exhansted and rendered useless for six or neven years. When the stamps are sufficiently rotted to bo removed, there is a second expen- sive operation, costing not less than Three pounds per acre, — thus it requires eight or nino yearn of hard labor and privation to bring the plough into operation on but a small portion of the farm, during which time the returns are small. The soil of this Island, owing to its light and sandy nature and the openness of the Hubsoil, though with sufficient manure, it will in fivurable seasons yield fair crops with rapid vegetati on yet without manure (which it is impossible for the new and back settler to obtain) it is soon exhausted and becomes barren. We would in tho next place direct your attention to our cli- mate. It is a common complaint among our bent and oldest farmers, thiit the winter cats up all the produce ofthe Eummer, and it is a true one. Winter here sets in about the twentieth of November. The experience of som.: of yuar memorialists who have kept, records of their farming operations has found this to be about the average time when the frost amps the plou>jth. From this time until the May following tho cultivation of the soil is entirely suiipended. Your memorialists would also call attention to the fact that to a coriain extent the crop8 htve faiit-d for a number of years, pnrliculariy the potato crop, which is most suitable to the vir- gin soil in burned land, and ihu chief dependence of every new saltier. Tlie disease in this* pliiit began about the year 184li. Since tlii-^ iuna the crop has frequently been a total loss, and always uncertain. For the last ten or twelve years tho wheat midge has prevented the culture *.f -vheat, except a little lale sown which is uf little value; whilst the circulating medium of the Island has been extracted for tho importation of flour. It (hay appear to your lion. Commission that some Townships have paid a greater proj)Ortion of rent than we. In ansv^r to this we would submit tliat on those Townships the rent is taken in farm produce, cattle, and often in lumber which is procured on the farm of the tenant, at we presume a considerable incon- venience and loss to the proprietor, while it is an accommodation to the tenant. We would also claim attention to the fict that demanding rent for wilderness lands has given dissaliafiction in every new country. In both Kastern and Western Canada it hns been a source of contention, as also in parts of the United States. A little reasoning, however, will teach us that it must be oo. We have already shown that clearing land and bringing it into even ptntial cultivation, co-ts much triore than the fee simple value of it when cleared, while the industry, and persevprance of a robust man will not for many yenrs affiird him and hij farnily a sufficient Supply of food and clothes. In the meantime, his rent is accumulating, and perhap.s other debts which he caa TH^ LAND COMMISSION. 9S ^■(careeljr avoid, while he must at least spend Vxenxyyi nting and har- ^Ihard labor and sore privation before he can obtain iro ^eara of I hard labor and sore privation berore he can obtain Trpm hi* farm, with coniinaal indastry, a moderately decent living with- [out paying rent. We, your memorialists, iboagh tenants laboring onder all the I disadvantages above stated, and earning oai^.bread from the soil [claimed by others, wish to have it understood that we recognizo the right and ownership of onr Landlord (if original and tiuthen- Itic docaments exist to provo the same), bat while we thas ac* [knowledge the right, we most humbly and respectfully claim to [be dealt with as the circumstances of the case and lue nature [of the country evidently require, that is to say, that it is onr Ihnmble and we trust honest opinion that onr arrears of rent Isbould be remitted, and that we ohoold be permitted to obtain [onr farms in fee simple at such a price as every industriona [tenant can pay. Farther, we would with all deference to your iHon, Commission suggest that the price be in accordance ^}S\* [the voluntary oflTer of those proprietors who have sold their Es- [tates here to the Government, particularly the latter, viz., the Sari of Selkirk, whose cecentlysold lands, we understand to be of )od qaality. In support of onr prayer that the tenantry generally may be« some freeholders of the lands which they occupy, we beg leave to live the following reasons, which are of goneral application. First, we presume that your Hon. Commission is aware that the question of land tonare in this Island has boon a constant )arce of political agitation for the last thirty years, and we con- tend that this agitation has had a most demoralizing influence lot only upon the people but also upon Legislature of the Col- iny, inasmuch as those out of power constantly advocated es- tbeat of proprietory lands, while they as eagerly repudiated the ime when in power, thereby causing an immense amount of 11 feeling, contention and disturbance throughout iho Island. A itisfactory settlement of the land question, novy, will we firmly )ieve put an end for ever to these direful evils ; but if unsatia-' lotojy we fear that they will rekindle with tenfold force, ^f^ T. We submit that the satisfactory settlement of this question as esjential to the prpsperity as to the peace of our Island, it iing a fact beyond controversy that a discouraged and discon- inted people make no progress, and such is precisely the stat^ . >f the tenant portion of onr Island. The reason of this is obvi< lens. Thousands are involved in arrears of rent, many of whon» [owe one pound stg- per acre which amount far exceeds the value [of the moveable property on the premises, and are still unabte [to pay the accruing rent. This slate of things paralyzes the [energy of the man. He feels that it is useless to attempt even the commonest improvements on a property which under the present system, he must soon lose. In consequence of these hindrances, numbers of our very best young men are contina- ally leaving the Island and settling in other countries. We believo that not more than one third of the annual rental of this Township has been paid on an average for the last seven '■a 24 TBS LAND COMMISSION. N li-i IR jit] m j«arf , and the probabUitjr ii that for the titn« to oome a larger amount cannot be collected. jfn conoluaion, we would iubrtrit that the granting of this laland in large tractate be re-let to actual aettlera (though nothen fhaltof the preaent proprietnra) w«a neveriheleaa a grievooa error having a baneful iiffloenee en the prosperity of (he colony, wh\th will never cease until modified, and placing us upon a much worse footing ihan setttera, on new land in Nova Scofia and New Brunawiok. We do not wiah to infer that the latter aettlera do not aoifer the same toila and privationa aa we, bat #ifh thia dMTerenee, that they have no arrears of rent like a threatening cloud hanging over them damping their energy artd darkening their proapects. Lastly your memntialista pra^ (hat their Committee may be heard belbre your Hon Conimission in whom th«y repose ever^ conlldence, in aupport and proof of thehr allegations in thia their httinhle memurial. RoBtfrnf SiMr^aow, Auvz. SiMPaoir, ^ LAwa*itcB HooAir, JoHir SiMPaoN , ' JoHH HoDoaoN. < G«Mnmitte« acting on behalf of (ha Tenatita. Hope River, Lot 22, Sept. 6, 1860. After (he reading of the Mamorial, and the propoatag of a few ^{••stions to the CoHMDtttee, the Court adjourrted. SutvKDkT, Sept. 8. Hon. Col. SwABKT before the Court. —I am thankful for the indulgence you have afforded in allowing me to appear before your honors. I do not intend to trayel over the ground which baa been so ably occupied by Mr. Cooper, and aliall confine myself to supplementary re- marka. If you will permit me, I shall make one or two •uggestione. The firat is, that it is necessary to receive ■tatements made here with considerable caution. You ean soarcely form a correct estimate of the state and in> lelligence of the people of the Colony generally, by judg- ing from the delegates who appeared before you yester- day. They came from one of (be moat flourishing dis- triote of the Island . I can show you this by referring to the census for 1827. In that year the population on Tuwnship23, was 1753, and on Township 23, 1369. Dur- ing that year 17,118 bushels of Wheat were raised on Lot 23— 'nearly ten bushels to each indtTidual ; and on Lot 22 on.'y 7,V65 bushels. I would beg leave to au^geist in the next place, that the value of the information jou obtain here, be received in oonnOOtipn witb ooUaferal circumstanees when your honors travel through the ooun- try. — 1 may now refer to the question which was raised THB LAim COMMISSION. 26 jMterdftj. &• to whether it would be advantageone to Ithe Colony if the fishery reeeryea were thrown into priviite propertiee; and alio in regard to granting lic^niea of the hna for fishing parposes. I may state that when I waa kt the head of toe Land Departnpient, mv instroolioni irere to avoid eraoting lioensea where the land was ooco- ^ied, if I ooald help doing so. Com. GsAT proposes a lew qaeations to Mr. Swabey.— .efore exeroisins the liberty of appropriating h. portion i( the reserves tor fishing purposes, was it neoeseary. to Obtain a license from the Government? II waa. Eas the GoTernmeni ever drawn a revenue from this juroe .' I am speaking of the reservea of the Grown )ow, and I have never heard of any being received. Uas It been understood in the country that before a person Dgaged in fiehing — before be erected a stage on toe 500 tet, ne should apply to the Government for a license ? the proclamation made by Sir Alexander Bannerman, irties were warned not to ereot stages without license )on the lots reserved to the Crown, over which the Gov- irnment exercised authority. To how many lots did the reclamation extend ? It was applicable to the whole land. What number of licenses were issued I About >r 8. Were these licenses acceptable to the parties on lose lands they were granted ? They were. [Mr. rabey then remarked that some maintained it was by [stake the grants were givAn with theno reatrvt^s. tie >ught the impreasion at that time w^is that the profi- rity of the lalaud would grently depend upon its fieh- tea, and was of opinii^n that the Crown reserved tttcsc Is to foster the iaterests of tho Culony in futurity : ^refore it anpeared to him that any aetiou taken on point shoiua be with extreme cuutiort.] ;om. Gray.— You think it would be better for the >ny to reserve theso ? ■ '*'■ it. SwABBT. — I do It would bo very easy for the kernment to let them on short leases for agricultural rposos, »aid leases to expire when the land comes to be juired for the use of fishermen. — ) can if neooifsary lay fore you a few statements respecting the Selkirk Vntate. Sas in the Land office at the time negotiations were Ing on for its purchase, and am conversant w|th the its. The tenants on that estate pre«onted a petition [Lord Selkirk, which was forwarded by mo, conoerning b purchase of their landi. The people though^ that l)ie would sell to the Goretnment, Iboy might be«ome ,)holders. The reply to their petition waa that he lold bo glf^ to loU, and referred tbem to hit agent, Mr ^wiei^reapf^oUng tlMi tocms. Mr Donso, wlio is tnem^r Parliament for the same distrial, waa ia Ikigilftiid at ,1 *^^Km^mm lit' , I ■i lii: w ./ TUK LAND COMlflRBIOM. this time. I dhowed the letter of Lord Selkirk to bif ton, •nd he remarked that it was a matter of such importance thai he oould not reply in his /aiher's absence. I.bow- aver, did not remain in office, and am not aware of what was done afterwards. Hon Col. Gray. — How many years have elapsed sinoa the 'late Government held any communication in re- gard to the purchase of this estate? Jdr. SwABBV.— Since I was in oflfioo — I do not remember the year. GoI.Grat. — Can Col. Swabey state the reason wli| the Oovernraent did not continue their application to Lord Selkirk? Hon. Mr Colks. — The Government wore waiting for the Loan Bill to be sanctioned. Mr Swabey. — I think the time lo^t which wns taken up (he other dny in diRcnaeion upon the bill fur re-investing in ihii Crown lunda liable to rorfeiture, which nppenrs to be mifoing from the archived. The cornmon right uf iho (>rown could have been excrciced without any purti> uliir Irgiitlalion on; the Buhjoct. Tlie eaehent of l.o's 16 and 5C took p ace without! legisiniioa at all. 'J'his liaa been the practice in Nuvn ^cnlia iiud ' New Brunswick. [Comuiissioneis here riiii.irked that liiey wvre i ■ati$fied on that point.] IVIuch hiiH been said ri-spfcting Mri 8pearinan*ti letter. 1 will mention one fact. Uy referring to thsj Joarnald Tor 1839, you will find that the lute George Young whiI employed as counsel fur the propriutota rei>pectinj; their cunaenl; Co the proposed commutation of quit rents bv puiclmse Subst' gutntlyt only, however, to Mr Spuarntan'H letter doen he write 1 signing himself ** counsel." (le treated of the aubject indefinite- 1 ly,thus: provided ihoconditionsof redoniption proposed by the Karl of Kipon were carried oat ; provided oil airears wme remitt*d,&c,:' Now, il the redemption at so iiinny years* purchase was never iitade, '| and the remission of arrears spoken of in connection with that ic* demplion never took place, any argument founded upon it i) worth but little. But respecting the 6 ) years' posxession, I ned scarcely oiTer a remark. The learned Counsel will argue th.ii point by and by. It is n muxiiii, however, lecognized liv some atatatas that possession must be uninterrupted or undisputed to fpve a title, i think the proprietors ii ive not n legal right lo the ands which they cl^,im by possession, as that posdessiou has nut been uninterrupted. Com. ItiTCHic. — I think the Counsel will not agree with you. This only ahows their poa^esainn to be adverse. Inetleci- aal obposition strengthens right by possession. Col. SwABEir. — 1 think that protests and ubjectinns interfero with the right. The Crown bus put io cluima from time to time. Com.' RiTCHrit. — ^The claims urged by the Crown do not prevent the 60 years from running. CoK SwABicY. — I think otherwise. The Crown has rrotnj lime to time •xerciiied certain rights over the lands of the Colony,! Com. .Ritchie —It would be impurtant if yuu con d khuwj that snoh has been the caSe^ THE LAND COMMISSION. 27 Com. lIowB. — In thr .win lo which yoa refer, yoo oonaider Itbe Crown exerciiiing h* ri^ht on nccoant of the non-perlormanoe jifthe conditions or iho gr.inu, or for nnn-pnyment nf quit rsnta. !■ it yoar opinion that the arrears ofqait rents could bo collected tt anv time ? Col. S«rABEY.<— I urn strongly inclined to that opinion. — 1 lasire to make another obnorvatiori. The Counsel fur the feniintry,on the day that this Court opened, were nskudto make ftroposali on behalf of their clients. Will these gentlemen par- Ion me for encroaching upon their proro{{«tive, when I aay that 10 time had not come for them so to du? Before proposals be tade, I would like the proprietors to nee they are in such n po- Ktion that their lands are liable to forfeiture. Com. IIowB. — We asked not the Counsel to make proposal* compromise; we naked them to define what they expected this Commissioni — did they demand escheat, ronii. — By and by, when this Commission has given decision, we do not wish any person to be able to tarn ind and say " Yoa misunderstoo^i iho grounds of complaint;** desire to know first what the tenantry wish us to do, and Bn we shall have the lobject fairly before ns. [Com. Gray.— We are not tied dowo by what either Counsel if ftd7anC6. Oar object in hearing all parties is to ascertain f«elin« and seatjment* of tb9 people. Coan. Hbmslby. — 1 think I clearly stated at the opening qiettioni which woald come before the Commission. ;om Gray.— Certainly The views of the Government arn forth in the resolutions of the House. It is the desire of the ^vernment, however, that this be an open court, and that ^ry person who has information to afford or grievances to bring ra^d blearing upon our present business should receive a hear- One member of the Government, (hon. Cot Gray) hae jled that the Counsel for the tenantry have an unlimited brief ^'lerty to take any position which they please. [Col.Swabey f others expressed their entire satiafnclinn with tlicae remarlts.] Ion. IVlr Coles.— I hope the Counsel will consult other ^ties as well as the Government. Jom Howe. — If (his be done no person can blame us here- sr that our decision did not embrace all nocessTiry points. As as we can, we wish to hear from all parties, that every phase [ihe subject may be brought to our notice. — Assuming that by Act of ISOS, Lots 15 and 55 were escheated by the exercise the power of the Crown, how did it hippen that when the )ple were in favor of escheat the other Townships were not lalt with in the same manner ? jCol. Swabey.— I think it was owing to interference from lomo, — that they received no encouragement to pro.sccute it, — Int it could not be done by an act of their own. If the Crown fas advised not to be a party to the escheat, it could not take ^^^J^^ISH! rl'i iS 28 THR LAMP C0MMIR8ION. EIhoc here. When the Civil Li«t Dill m^» pawed, tod eeni loroe, we were directed to preaerve the Qaeen'e neme in all titles of property. I did not perouive ihe reaeon fur ihia at that time, but now 1 nog it waa for the parpoee of enabling ua to avail ouraeivea of her aaaiatunce. Com. llowE. — In Nova Hcotia we had no direct authnriij from the Home (iovernment, yet we eaoheated our landa. Why ander responaibie government waa it not done here ? Mr CoLB*.— The Qovnrnment thought it would be better j to take another courto— that the Land I'urchaae Bill was pre> ferable, and more in uccordanco with the wiahei of the Humt Government. Coun. Palm en reads a pnstnge from one of the granta, and I remarks I do not read here that lurfeiture waa to be for non pay- ment of quit rente, Col.BwABBY. — I am not prepared to argue that aubjact now, Coun. Palmer. — Yoa aay peraons cannot get portions of] the fidhery reserves without licenses from the Government. C«tl. tiwABBV. — I do. Coun. Palmbii. — Ytm gave 6 or 7 you suy ? Col. SwABBY. — About that number. Coun. Palm BR. — Were these acquiesced in by the pro- prietors ? Col Swab BY. — I do n^n know what you understand by the| term acquiesce. — They made no objection. Com. Gray. — You my the licenses were acceptable to th«| proprietors ? Col. SwABBY — 1 think 1 heard some of them say grantioi] them would benefit their estates. Conn. Falmbr— Did yon bear them say they wonld sar< render any right ? Col. SwABBY. — I am of opinion that it would not interfstt^ with their rights. Com. HowB. — Did ever any proprietor object to the right of; the Crown 7 Col. SwABBY. — I never heard of any. Coun. Palmbr. — When yon granted licenses, did yoa noi know they could not be successfully carried out by legal ob- jections coming either from the proprietor or tenant r Col. Swab BY. — I did not. Coon. Palmb.h. — Did not representations come to yoi against granting iH >ra ? Col. Swabcy. —I am not aware of any daring the time I wu^ in office* Conn. Palmer. — Were these licenses granted to those wbt> had, or had not land on the ahore? Col. SwABBY. — To both deacriptiona of persons. Coun. Palmer. — Name an individual who carried tbv.; license into successful operation. Col. Swab BY. — I cannot wiihoot reference. Coon. H«,NSLBY then proposed a few questions to Kfr8wabej| -->Did you ever grant a lipense to a person named Fitxgibboo| THK LAND ('OMlfrSHION. '•« 1 did. VVhatQ .' On Lni Ono. Did lirf go into porf^ePiioii of it ? There wua lomo uti) re!4()octiiig it, I bolinve. Uo yoa recol- lect vvlin di«pu(»d ? I do not. iJid ho ruTato to givn up ? ila [did. [Couii ilciialey hero romaiUod that thiN cuao wa» tUII I pendiiiR.] i Mr llt)f(Hn,ui)o ortho dflU^atos rrniii Lot 22, whom Ihn Court [luid not liiiio to cxniiiino on iho prcviouu duy wan iiiiroducud hj jiVlr Hiiiipion to reproaeitt nnothur clitas of the teiinniry. Mr [flogan'a arroaru of rent uiiiount to XiO or £bO. Thinka he can lever puy thoin. Puyii ua much rent every year aa he ia able. VouM take £180 for his farm. I'innlly ho dsHiroa to know rhat ho iniiy do, aiippoaiiig tiio propriotora pounce upon hitn be- Ifore the hnn. Coinnii'^aionorM have given tlioir deciaiun. Court l*At.MSK thitikH that such iiainuitiuna nhould not be (hirown out. Com. IIowc. — I taku it that no proprietor whr 'a a gentleiiiaD, /uuld put hirnaeir in such a poaitio-i aa to ercountur public sntiinuht by roniinitiing un net of petty oppresoion during the Imo thiji Commission ia aiiting. A Committee from Lot 24 wna introduced to llio (Tourt by ^oun, 'I h()mnon,who read their momoriitl. They attributed the rievances which tiioy and their futhera had borne to the non- ilfilnient of the conditiona of the ori^hial grunta. When thny )laincd their hmaea, advantage was taken boih of their nccea- ty und ignorance. The term, of their loaaea are from 2a to 2a I per acre. Ej^^ctinonta for non-payment of quit lenta have fcurrcd in the Townahip. The proprietor waa called upon in Supreme Court to produce hia title, bnt did not. From that |riod the tenant whom-ho brought to court, paid no rent. Their iniun tf that there never will be a contented people till the Baont aystem ia aboliMhed. Their proprietor ia an absentee. iere are two restrictions in their toaaaa. One ia, the tenant IQot aell without a writing from the propiietor. The other is, , cannot aell aniesa a peraon makes an ofTer for the land. fty peiaona are aettled on the Township without leasea. ^onn. IIrnblby then read a memorial from Mr William isina of Lots 20 niid 21. Hia father came to thia lalund in IQ, and bought 100 ncre;* of land from Mr Haszurd. When )ad cleared a part of it, and built a house, a Mr Cambridge ^e along and threatened to take proceedinga against him. Governor of that duy advised him to remove to Lot 20. He •0, and in lesa thnn three years, a Mr Stewart laid claim to property there. Mr Cousins valued the land on that Town- frotn 6a to 10a an acre. Mr -Cundall, the proprietor, being bsent. wna asked by the Commission what no would aay to It valuation. He replied thi^t he would object to it. Some le since Mr Cou^iina had offered Mr Cundall 20a an acre for farm, but the latter /Wanted that much Halifax currency. \ memorial from To\ynifhi[> 65, vyaa next read. The tenants Ire complain that they were compelled to take new leases. It their rates of rent are too high &c. ^he Court adjourned. Esssme THE LAND COMMIBSiON. 't •'If i'' ill ;lM MoirsAT, Sept 10. Cat. Asbrcromric Willock appeared before the Coart, { ■ad after reading rrom a petition which had been forwarded br him to Her Majnity, he handed it and another dooamttnt whiGhj be held, to the Commisaionera. Mr W> H. PopB presented to the Commiaaion a paper in thej hend writing of IVIr Cambridge, purporting to be a copy of thej Act of 1803, which copy contained a auspending clause. Co'ia. tiBNaL.BY handed in a certified copy of the grant of I Lot 1, and of Lot 6, which contained the reservations of the' Crcwn. 'Joan. Hemslbt then introduced Mr Wise from Lot 82, nnd| read his memorial. Mr Wise came to this Island in 1830, Some of the Loyalist land was leased to him by Mr Curtis, agent j for Mr Cambridge. The Counsel remarked, as this is a private j ease I question whether your honors will take it into considera- tion. The principal complaint of Mr Wise is, that he cannot sell j his property. He has been diatraioeil upon for two years* rent by Mr DeRlois He is willing to pay to the rightful owners. Com. (tiTCHiE. — Why can you not sell your property ? Mr WisB — My lease ia no good '^ Com Ritchie. — You took a lease 30 years ago, have rent ever since, and now you wish us to step iu betweep you and| the parties to whom you have paid rent. Com. Gray. — Our object is not to interfere with the ordinaryj tribunal)) of the country, but to aiscertain how you may parchu8o| your property from the owners at a fair price. We have coitiel to look into the whole matter, and to lay down a rule by which you and othurs may purchase. The Counsel on both sides then proposed a number of questiooij to Mr Wise, Coun. Henscet — There is a respect^.ble body of men pre- sent from Lo^ 34, who will testify to the value of land on thai Township, &c. The members of this delegation are Messrs. J, Robertson, J. S. M'Leod, G. Deacon, L Thompson, and D, Ouugiaas. Mr Hensley then read the resolutions which wer« passed at a public mooting in which they expre.-'sed their con fidence in the Comutiasioners, and desired their lands on the same terms as the Selkirk estate had been sold to the Govern, roent. Wiih respect to the fishery reserves, in the event of their being forfeited, they wished that the parties occupying them should be privileged to retain them by paying a small sun annoaily into the Treasury. Com. Gray. — Have these reserves been held by the periom occopying them by the sitno tenure as the adjoining lands ? Mr R.oBBRT«oN. — I think so. ^ Com. HowB. — If you five gentlemen had this question to de- cide, how would you settle it? [Laughter.] As candid riieii,j, tell as how you would restore peace to the Island ? Mr Douoir thii people as possessing the labor of their fathers. As the land w«il reclaimed from the forest by much labor and expenaci and tbati THE LAND COHHISSION. SI otr own, I vroald lonk nt what it was worth when the people 6rit Milled upon it, anti Gk that as the parchaso price for the tenaot. Com. Howe— Would noi the Tair way be to look at what wildemPM land \* worth now ? Would it he just to ^o bnck and rej^nlHte prices now by the value of land at itint period t Coin. KiTCHiB.— Asputiie now that ihe landlords have good titles, !*nil they receive £6 rent annually for 100 acres, how are their rights lo be respected if the landd are to be sold ss yon propose i Mr RoBKKTSoif. — I have nn inclination to contend for a single farthing. I would tieat their cntie in two wnys, namely, by taking into considt?ratinn thoHe who have good tillus, and th')8e uhxHO t'.ilea are queHiionflble. Com. KiTCHiB. Aaeuniing a proprietor had a good title* j what woald you aay f Mr HoBicRTRON — 20 ynnrs* rent. Com. Ritchie. — Tlie people appear to be actuated by a fair (spirit. ^ I Com. llowB — Take the OHse of the man who has had to [work hi.1 way inle coriirnrtHble circumstances, when you name SO )earn* reitt d pricf. Itiit I contend we ought to consider in the val- lalian what it was worth at firnt. Com. llnwK.- -Suppoiie ao old offip.er received 20,000 acres kriand aa conipens «iion for hiii vei vices, and suppose he took it riihnul due conxideratioo, likn iIih peop'e with iheir ieaoen, and Itathe discovered be could not comply with the oonditixoii. you iroold not preM him to the wail ? and su|ipi>'>e Home H^ent plun- |ered him and you.fsn ihit h*t rtreived -but little T'om it, as indid inen would you gn hack and look at the vhIuk of land Baraas"; **r do you n* t thiok looking at iho iri;;hta of all pMr'ies* iiern should be some consideratitui on account of these circuiii- inne»? \Mr RoBCRTsoN. — We have paid rent evr n:;^ce; we have inred hard under inconvenience, rut diuvn the forest, cleared iUiid,and thu'ei.hineed itK v.tloe; besides, the Wifod on it at It lime was not worth a farthistse. Com RiTCHK prnptMe4 a few qae^tions to 'he delesaies.— . low Iwnz sinre )Ou settlett? 40 ymirs Whs it known lo ) ou that tttt wou'd havn to pay rent? Yes.lind in Itritair: wa4 £2 or jE3 an ere, and oh, a shilling wa thought was nothingi We < ante, took lases from some Innd-sharpHr. not kno ving what we did, and rhen once selth'd we wese loath to le^ve. Are not peoplu do* kg the same now ? Yes, they cannot hafp it, but our young men re going awav. We pay £S a }ear, but let U4 explain what hat tni'ins. It takes a' good man to nut down 2 acres tli« first bar; for these there is paid JE9 or 60s, — the text of the farm beini( wor'h nothing Aftnr thn. it i^T or 10 years befo'e y«»a baa tufve nicesinicle acre uf clear land. Supimsing 10 acres ar« Iteared; well then there is ICsan acre to piy for it; when 20 ■'i iW m Ill": \i \y> ifij 4 'll lis THB IiAND COMMISSIOlf. ( :«Ofes aro cleored, the 141HI1 begins lo be Momewhat comfurtablej > yet even then U co«ta him 6a an acre, — the remainder being'j worth nulhinx unle«i8 it bo fur the b^ach nuts which the piga uat ' ) Com. llowK inierrugated IVIr Thompson. —In the adtninistraJ Mioa of thiti aiaieiii hMve yoo met with harshneas f >No. Haij the proprietor spent money fur improvements on the Lot ? Noil iiany. It id a Rystem which retards the development of Ihe re. sources of our country. t Com. Ghay. — No doubt about that, A miin who pays rent never sees the end of it. It i^t a very long claim. What would)' you be witling to pny to convert your r.irni into a free^holdn aom^thing ieus than -20 yearH* purchiise — 2» 6d an acre. Vou would like to make a gootl bargiiin ; we all like to do that 1 1 tiuppoae; hut wu do not want you to tell uii hi»w good a bargain! you would mako, hut what would be u f.tir price: we will con- sider other thin;;!* by and by — whether bind:) are liable to for- feiture, or w.^iether thtsre ought to be a remission of back rents ! Stc. — tell us what you think would be the fair value? 1 would | j^ive 7s an^cro Mr CoLEH. — Vnur honors will remetnber that this is one of| the best townships 00 the hhnd. <- CoM.liowK. — :^uppi)i4e all the titles of these estates pro-l nouiiccd p>3ilect!y good, itnd lents fixed for ever on the Ssland, 1 do y«iikI. — You livQ, on Lutf 84? Yes. You hive l.ind luiMtl on |ji'», iiuving no chance, must go to Caundii or eisowhure. Many of our >ouug men Mould rem lin if they could gel lund at a moJ«;Mite rate. It i^ a hardship to see fine youug men leaving our «hiirer tyranny. If (Mropr.ietors would ciell iliKir lands they wui|ld.n«cd 00 Hxeutfl and might pocket the monpy. Com. OiiAV. — Will you srtt a va'ue apnn |he land.^, ,, , Mr M Lkoo. — 1 (iny £5 Tir I00acr»>s. I paid Jti2un 4r,r« for catling downi and JL'3 lor c'e(iiini« ii, dic» All done, tity farni ii I worth about £4i)it-'iiow. mukiot*. ihesK dHduclions, wl^i^.is leli ' would for the land? Notliiiin HuU, iifier pa> ing.X 1 1$ hi rent, I ' bs willing to give KM. an ai-re for ihtf fee simplf.-^a.higli figure. >^ Coin. llowR. — You do not inteitd this to apply lo other lunds oa this Island ? No; I am near a loaikKt, orli-rs are not. Com. CiRAY. — Taking the island kenerall* ,,liuw utauy .ycura would you iiive in which to purchris^ ?' Ten. Several quesiious respecting the fi-hery reserves were p^it t') the tno'iiheis of llu* dde$iatiiia. They t'oodud*;d it wouM lie! batter for each in in to own whrtt wm-i on his own firni, uiifi if; a per^im wanted u piece of Inndfoi fisldug pui|^>i«Ks, io;l^t liim go tu tittt owu«( ttud uiuktt iha Ima bargain C^i it which he cuuld. THE LAND COMMISSION. 33 It (his U one o{\ Mr. ToBOPHiLua Stiwart before the Court. —Mr. Stewart ^fker ranking nereral inrroduotory remarkt, prooeeded to larrate the partioulars respectini; tho triiil and imprison* lent of Neil Darraoh, who, being incaroerated for rent, lay jail about nine niontlig. Com. HowK. — Mr. Stewart, you have mistaken our juris- liotion. Com. Gray.-— Wethnnk yon fir the olenrness with which [ou have apoken. You Iidvh luft no doubt upon our roiods lat we cannot ndjiidioute upitn thut case. Mr. S — I wish to sujr souiething about tbe aborigines of us country. » ,« Com HuWB. — How many are there I Mr S — About 300. When this Island was granted ruy, no provision whatever was made Tor these people. ^hey were looked upon in quite a diflerent light in the Bighboring Provinces, where, they are *' in clover'.' when >mpared with the Micmncs here. For many years, the; id the range of this Island: but as the Legislature and id- Ividuals have extended their power, they have^ehut the ndians out wiih little else than the sea before them. Being riven from a small island which they occupied, they took Bssessicn of another — Lennox Island. Up to 1856 they |ere regarded as isolated from the rest of the community. 100 then, a transcript of the Nova Sootia Act respectinfi;; He Miomaos has been passed here. For 50 years, they kve been in possession of Lennox Island. About 16 yeanr p, a gentleman who occupies an elevated position in th« Bsent Qovernmpni, endeavored to dispossess them. Whav »y oumplnin of is, that they are deprived of the benefit olf larsh upon which about 30 tons of hay are annually out. }esire to bring these facts prominently before you, me the liaiis are in danger of becoming extiijict. h, hm. [lows. — If by and by we discover there are any Meited lands, we may consider their case. You have iui'ht before us a fact which hns not previously been pro- fited to our notice. ^^ c G, .W. DkBl'US before the Court. ai Hbnslkt.— -You are agent, Mr. DeBloiH, for Sir rt; J' . CunardI lam. What part of Queen's County ^e jou .gent fori For half of Lot 20, for Lots 21 and 32, id part o> 48, 49 and 65. Uow long have you been agenti years. What are the terms of the leases I Cunard'i re for 999 years. The rent varies from Is. to Is 6d. stg.; a few instunoes persons give more Any special terms any of them? In some, the tenant is required to clear 3 sres the first year, and build a house. Com. Gbav. — How much rent is due Cunard in thie ;ount>? Mr. DbBlois.— About £5000. ji v. ■'■«^ ". j ' -gmx n wiii I iX ij. . ,.<.<-». ., t ^'•mi m THK LAND COMMISSION. ^>Coin. Grat.— 'Hni maoh of this been long stAnding? Mr. DrBlois.— In Queen's Gounty the average would be three or four years. Goun. IlBN8LRT.~>Gan you state the amount of roceipti for last year/ Mr. DcB. — About £3.500 for his whole property in the Island. Out of this thnre ik paid for A^HCMsment ubout£280, Goun. HiNSLKr— Whut is the averugu expense of oolleot ioz thene rents? Mr. DbB.— About .<;300. Gom. Gray. — What amount do you expend in the im- provement of the estate for the benefit <»r the tenants? Mr. DbB. — We expend some on bridges ani in opening roads. What is expended in this way assists ihe tenants to j pay back rent In Prince Gonnty large amounts of reni are taken in produce, and sometimes we lose upon it. We site the highest market prices. Goun. Hbnblsy.— Respecting Lot 33. is it entirely leased! i ft ?9. Are the tenants in arrears? Yes, about JE7450. i » Tu been selling land in fee simple? Gonstantly. At| -whu e? Twenty years' purchase, when all (he rents | are pa., up. Have there been any ejectments for arrears^ during your agency? Not of parties in regular possession,; Many cases of distraint in Queen's Guunty? Twenty odd; ibis year For what Muma? ^Jome for £ 15, others for Jb'20, | or more. Any fidhery rdsdrfdi on your Lots? I 6an&ok tel!^ you anything about that, you can refer to the grants, Vou do not reserre any? No: I consider they belong to tht proprietors till wanted for Ashing purposes. You lease down to the wa^er and take rent fur thcfm? Yes. Onn you state what arrears of rent are due Mr. Gunard for tho whole Island. Not ju^t now. Giin you give an approxima- lion? I think about £10,000 in Ring'sGounty arfd £5.000 in Queen's Gounty How far back do they run? Some portion uf the arrears commenced thirty or forty years n;;o Gom. Gray. — Would it not be better to wipe off those arrears and commence anew? That will be for your Ex- cellencies to decide. You speak of 20 yearp purchase, do you think chat a fair price? [ do. Ihi you think it would bo for the whole Island? 1 cannot answer your Excellency, as I know not what proprietors in general would think a fair price fur their lands. Do you think they could redeem^ their fur latt at that! I do. In Lot 32 they do not seeoi inclined to puroiiase. I know that tiu terms upon whicli lands nre obtained hero from private individuals are mucb easier than they are in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick oi Canada. In Canada ir'.ereHt is charged upon the purohuse^ money, and wild laodt) ^aW from $1.50 to $20 per acre* When a man takes land here, ho getH it (reo for the first jrear| or io, then the rent \» only 3d, next 6d, rising to Is. an aore ' THE LAND COMMISSION. 30 Com.*RiTCUii. — Notwithstanding, do the people not flad hnrd to inuke a living, and pay even at these rataa! I ^ave travelled in the other provincee, and considering the trins upon which lands are obtained there, and seeing the kuHJitj of the lands here, I have olways considered the srms very easy indeed. What is the value of farms here ? ^oin jCSOO to jE;400. Many are sold for JC500 and mor». Com. IIowB. — Assumini; that this is the real state of the ige, — thiit thit) Idlnnd ori)(inally belonged to Nova Sootia, latsorae indiviJuiil induced them to form it into a sepa- ite government, that he agreed to make stated payments the Government, and to expend money to improve the )iintry for the benefit of the inhabitants, say this Island l4i>i grunted on these conditions, assume that these oondi- \(ma were never fulfilled, and that he has drawn, neverthe- I, a iar);e revenue from these people, — does not the ques* }n assume a quite different aspect? If that man got these liids under false pretence?, and upon conditions, which, point of fact be never fulGlied, what right had he to way a poor fellow drifting about, convert him into a tenant, ^ike biin pay rent lor many ycare, and, finally sell it to l^n ut 20 years' purchase. (Laughter.) Mr DeB — It' men drifted into ti e Island, they took land iibeir own free will. -I Poun. TuoMPSDN — You have seen the original grants. . DeBlois? One or two of them. That would be a sam- of the others? You know Sir Samuel Canard^ Yes. |u'do not pretend to say be complied with (he oonditionn these grams? lie did not receive his rights from thd (irial grantees. lie took their rights, however, subject [the burdens attached to them? How much money have ren)itted to the Home Government for quit rents? ine. You have access to the books, — have any been paid )re you came into office? [Ooun. Palmer. — You had ter ask biin first if any are due.] I think Mr. Canard ;r paid any quit rents, because he was never asked for Well, then, it comes to this; Mr. Cunard is in a po- )n to take i^2U0O annually from this Colony and not one shilling? He pays at least 10 per cent, taxes on the ^ney whiub goes outof this Island to hinr.. Then you are not ill astonished at Cunard taking and holding these grants rich involved arrearages of rents due the crown; you are at all astoninbed that he allows these to remain unpaid! \t the least. You think these gentlemen under aolomn renant, who agreed to these conditions, can come here th u face and say, we owe nothing? It has not been hilly proved they do owe them.. That is another fchih^ bgether; a fact may have an existence and its exislienee ^y not be able to be pruyedt bat is. i| pot a fad (bey are ^i;? i.b9li4T# out. ,Wbvi FrA|B,the«laitti8ia»b8'grant8 :!BI ':|5 t j m 'ir 36 VBBLAMD COMMISSIOM. )Miviiif( h««n civen up bj the Eritith OoYernment. ' DnooD ditioiuilljii? 1 atu not aware ibay aboukl paj quit reot. D« VOQ wMn to m%j that (b« arreara wera given op! Yet. Whafeiajrour evidenoa) I know from a oommon aenM wiaw of tha mattar. Do you hold thia seriously as jroiu opinioa,tbat the Britiab Quvernuient wikboul any ooneider- alkiQ remitted all arrears of rent due by the proprieton! An far aa my knuwledne goea I believe they have. As ao[ bonaat man do you nut think a large amount of arrears ii ; dua to the British Qovernment? [ think not. Then as an' aafe of grace they were given up by the orown; and ftMul miog tJiia to be the oaee, are you prepared on behalf of the landlord as another act of grnoe to say you will give up alii arrears of rent to the tenaotal You will remeruher lani acting a« agent. I assume you are the proprietor, thenJ aad w iththta great act ofgraoe eent to yuu by the crown;! do you fiud it in your heart to extend a similar one to tht ten>intry? Did it ever atrike you that the tenants aa a budjf | are inferior in intelligence t<> the proprietors? A great j many of them, repliea Mr. DeBltiis, are intelligeut men. I believe they are equal to the proprietora in many casea i do not duubt that fur a moment, continuea Mr. Thomson, jj I believe many of them are educated gentletnen; but taking them as a class. I imagine the example of a proprietor hug •ome weight; now, if a proprietor with his superior intelli-^| genee sets the example of repudiating arrears of rums du« the crown, may not the tenants also do the same with re^ peot to the back rents which they owe the proprietors^ No wply. Gum. Gray. — I have two or three legal questions to sub- nit to you. gentlemen of the Bav, respecting which I desire your opinion at the oloae of this case. They may have a bearing upon tiie settlement of this question. The ques- tions whioli 1 submit are the following: — l., if, (p'r(^ Explain legal position of Fishery Reserves. The Court then udjnurDed, to meet at St. fileanor's on Wednesday, ai 10 o'clock. Wednesday, Sept. 12. [The Court met in the Court House at St. Eleanor's this IV according to adjournment. tCom Gray. — I desire Mr Hensley that you should state fe object of this Commission, — that it is to inquire into [e differences at present existing between proprietors and tauts. It is of a general moro than of a particular Iture. We wish to see by what mode the present system lich causes dissatisfaction can be remov«)a, and a better |e introduced. We wish it to be understood that we not here to enter into private disputes, nor to super- le the ordinary tribunals of the country ; but to inquire lerally into the whole system, and to solicit not from Counsel for the tenantry in particular, but from the )ple generally all the information they can afford jiching any thing which points out or Rhows thq.tthe ^tem is working injuriously for the country. '.{^'' 3oun. Henslby. — There is one question which I wish to i, touching the powers of this Commission. Suppose tre are present representatives o! single townships, come be/e seeking redress independently of the leral question, — persons to whom parties coming lairing them to pay rent cannot produce titles; i desire to know if your Excellencies will take those sons' case into consideration, and decide whether the ties who. claim the land have a right to it. There several such persons here, and they have requested information. |his inquiry elicited a somewhat lengthy discussion. iras argued that this question would come within he )vince of the ordinary tribunals of the country, that tore there ought to be any investigation into thd vali- ly of the titles, the opposite parties should be present — %t inquiries would necessarily require to be made into disposition of property, whether by wills or other- |80. ui. Gray. — Wo have perfect liberty to say it is a d system, that it has carried many out of the country, At grants have been forfeited, that arrears of rent ght to be given up— these and other things come with- the general question ; but when individual cases arise ■4 i i 38 THE LAKD OOMMISBION. hli. Mi ■>,«i: >^:'. ■.•i:->/: they must be determined by the ordinary tribunals of th country. We may decide that arrears of rent be siveJ up, that the man wbo has a leasehold farm shall oaii the opportunity to convert it into a freehold at a reason able rate ; — in this case you have brought up or supposed] however, the owner must prove his title in the com of the land. I believe no person present would ask us deprive any man of his rights without giving him aJ opportunity to defend his claims. It would be unjust tj adjudicate upon this case on the testimony of the tenaDtij without affording the proprietors an opportunity to maki[ good their claims. Com. Howe. — After we have collected all the evidenci we can, and beard generally froopi both parties, it maygii| happen hat this Commission may be compdlled to go inti a more particular investigation.. At present, however] we hope to be spared this labor. Com. tSRAY. — We have a perfect right to say that owinjl to the peculiar circumstances of the Island these tenant^ ought not to run sO many years back ; but we cannot : that Mr Jones, or Mr anybody else does not own tbisoil that piece of land because he cannot trace his ancestrj] Gentlemen around must feel that we desire to accompliBU all we can. We are prepared to go into any particulai case which has a bearing upon a ^ene/al principle. I Com. Howe. — Suppose that witnesses were now prfrj sent, to show that the minds of all in the country ail distracted about proprietory titles, that would be perfect!^ legitimate evidence which we might hear at once. Coun. Thomson. — For the information of parties presentj not for ^our honors at all, I think it important to mentioif the position which we occupy. I hold in my hand a copi of the resolutions of the House of Assembly, in wbicl; certain propositions are laid down, and to which tlu | Government are pledged. 1 stand here as Counsel for thi Government on behalf of the teiiantry to the extent ol carrying out these resolutions ; but I am instructed state also, that it is their anxious desire, that T, on behalij of the tenantry, if they wish it, should, advocate tbeii| (the tenants) views much further than what is embodie in these resolutions. I am not restricted in any way. state this to be my position, in order that any body o| tenants, or individual persons, who may ohoo^O to hnti their case befor'e me, may feel at perfect liberty to do (oj Further, it is not generally known whether the proprieton who have not submitted to the Gommissioa wiU be bound by its decision. . I may remark as re^rds the Act to gM effect to the award of your Excellencies, its wording is sJ full and explicit, that it is my opinion, and I believe Mtj »•<• ;• ■*rF.>-i* ^*. THE LAND C0MM1B8I0N. 39 BDsley'fl also, tba.t those who have fiOt sigoed the docu- 9Dt agreeing to the Comuission are as much bound bj idecisioo as those who have. jCom. Gray. — Will you read the Act? ICouD. Thomson reads it, and remarks this Act passed the Legislature speaks for itself. We are aware of no Jiitation respecting certain persons. It shows that it hots the rights of all. ICoun Halliburton. — I believe it is the desire of the jprietors that the award of this Commission be a final ^tlement of all disputes in regard to the land tenures of is Colony. I understand it is equally their viinh with ) tenants that the whole question be fully investigated this Court ; and I sincerely trust and believe this restigation will be as full as possible, and that it will r ever settle these disputes. The desire is thvt the kants come forward and state their cases so that the ects for which this Commission was appointed may i be fruitless. Any expression of opinion respecting rsons who have not agreed to this CoramissioD, is, 1 ik, unnecessary. 3oun. Hbnslky. — I am sure we are gratified to hear fse sentiments expressed by our friend Mr Halliburton. it is the wish of the proprietors, equally with the ints, to proceed with the investigation, we will go vard more quickly than ever. At some time, I hope, iHalliburtoD will not consider anything which we may [ance mere clap trap. lorn. Gray. — We cannot say what Mr Halliburton may ik, but we will prevent him from expressing himself eourteoasly. Bonn. Hxnsley then read the resolutions which were led at a meetine in Lot 1. The people there had ap- bted Mr Benjamin Davies to represecyt them before the |al CommissioQ. Besides Mr Davies. Mr Conroy, M. [., Hon. James Warburton, and Mr Doyle, M.P.P., I present as delegates ftom that section of Hfb country ton. Mr Warburton addresses the Court.— 1 represent- Fthe district from which I come several years in the liise of Aasepdbly. It will afford me plea^are to com- laicate to you any information which will forward the Bipess of this hon. Commission. I presume it will first [necessary to show the feelings qf the people against the bprietorj systepi, and state wliat they consider to be a |r demand for rents. Not long ago that part of the intrj was in an actual state of rebellion. I think it ^8 in '46, that nearly the whole population— about 600, sembled to ftttaok the peace ofiicers. The sbisrifi' had strained upon them for rent. I was called upon to aid ~ in arresting those who bad violated the law. When I I' 40 THE LAND COMMISSION I entered the settlement, I met about 500 men armed,! with Hticka and gui^ji. I remonstrated with them ThtJ sheriff succeeded in arrestinj; the rinsleiider of the diil turbance. It is my opinion that we could not have raisedj a sufficient force to have resisted that body of men suo ocHstully. PerHons passing the road at that time wen aeizaoi and had their papers takon from them. F.oi these facts you must see how injurious the system is to thii country- The Colony can tiever thrive as long as it iJ carried out. The opinion that the original titles shoull be investigated is growing stronger every day. Thij opinion was fully allayed some time ago, by the Lani Purchase Act — an ezcellent measure, had it not be«i thwarted by the Opposition of that day. [ lost oni Election in that district because I opposed escheat id every way. Proprietors exerted themselves, and sue| ceeded in thwarting the Loan Bill I opposed escheil once : but, considering the obstacles which have be« thrown in the way of the Purchase measures by the proj prietors, had I an opportunity again I would support itj Your honors have stated that private questions cannot 1 entered into ; but I cannot well discuss the general queij tion without adverting to individual oases. Com. Gray. — That is quite admissable ■ Mr Wakbukton. — The system is certainly an extraord nary ope. Three gentlemen Mr Palmer, the leader the Government, Mr Yeo, the* driver of the Governmeni and Mr Anderson proceeded to Lot 3 to take pos8e88io[ of some land which Mr Palmer claimed to belong to hii^ The occupants of the land refused to attorn to him i any one else. Mr Anderson was directed to survey til property. The people on the land were under the ig pression that placing bis compass upon it was taking session, and so #ould not allow him to proceed with survey. These facts are generally known. Iwilloiii instance Jhe manner in which an n^ent of one of til largest {^oprietora, treated one of his tenants wbo^ some way bad dispFeased him. You are, I presume, ^ quinted with the One Ninth BilL Sterling is mentiond in the leases, which virtually makes Is. to be Is. 6d ; ' the practice was to take the shilling with 19 aidel Mr Gordon, one of the oldest and most respectable i habitants of Cascumpec, who has a son a missionarjl the South Seas, and who has spent his whole life i OQ a farm on Lot 4, had purchased a property on LotI Mr Peters, tbe agetit, endeavored to run a line by wfciil he would deprive Mr Gordon of part of this properpl The agent, however, could not gain his point by law,aii to obtain revenge exacted British Sterling for the reiii Other cases of the same ntiture have occur red on THE LAUD C0MMI8S10K. 41 Und. 1 mAj now rePer to another puint, namely, the Ivalist quefttioD, which has agitated the countrj. Ooe the loyalists, a Mr Meggisoo, Captain of an East liainan, who was subject to epileptic fits, falliog out a caooe was drowned. The proprietor, where this balist's farm was situated, Mr Uill, however, afterwards liged bis wife to attorn to him as her landlord. This [cumstanc« shows how this portion of Her Majastj's bjeots have been treated- — Here is an agreement given a party renting land, in which besides the usual Lrds of such a document, we read the following—'^ The |d James Yeo does not bind himself to grant u lease at isentas he has not the power to do so, but as soon as Igets power he will grant a long lease." This is only ) out of hundreds of this sort of agreements which j9 arouBod the tenantry. I will now read a clause in lease of Robert Vincent,who is a tenant of Mr Robert loe Stewart on Lot 10 : — "Except all limber trees, which are only to be felled by the Robert Vincent, his heirs, execators, administrators, and as. us, as the land \» desired for agriculiaral parposei, and for ibar to be used only for building purpoaea on aaid premises. Id saving and excepting to the said Robert Brnce Stewart, bis Irs, execators, adminiacrators, and aasigna, the power and lit of making, or to the cunseoling to the making, through or it the tuid premiaea hereby demised, any tram- rail or waggon Ida, drains, watercouraes, ponds, dams, weirs, and other )ilar works and conveniences, paying tu the said Robert ^cent, his heirs, executors, admmistrators, and assigns such lages as he or they may thereby sustain, and the fair value Ihe land so taken, at the same rate per acre Ss the rest of the rm is let per acre, the damages to be ascertained by arbitra- mutually chosen, or their umpire, in the usual manner, who III, in ascertaining the damages, take into consideration any )rovements the said Robert Vincent may have ' previously ie on the land taken for such tram-rail, or waggon roads, IDS, watercourses, ponds, weirs, and other similar works conveniences.)" [r Warburton.— >From my knowledge of the affairs of I Island, I know that upon a farm it is as much as a |n can do to keep himself and fats family from etarvingv jolear my farm, has cost me about £5 an acre. I have \i £10(H) on buildings, and I believe I would not, to- ri get £1000 for my pr(^erty from any one. I saw the' Is of the rentpayioff system, therefore I recommended leral Welsh to sell to the Government the Lot for ioh I was acting as agent, and be did so. '')m. Qrat. — It would appear they do not encoitrage tbering in this country. Ir W.— Mr OonroT can show ^ou ooe of Mr Cunard's |ses which has a clause in it similar to the one in Mr bwart's. # THE TAVD COMIirafllOM. Ooun. Haliborton.—I think it would be difficult to^ find leAt^s nnywhero without such clauses. I think itiij customary to insert similar clauses in leases in al|f countries. Coun. Thomson. — I am much obliged to mv friend foti admitting that all the leases on this Island have theaij clauses. Ooun. Palmbr. — Man? took leases just for the ^akeofl cutting the timber whion grew on the land. I Com. HowB. — Iheoe leases might do in England whertl there is no timber, but it is hard to tie down a poor fellowl in America in that way. I Gpun. Haliburtox.— It is open to be shown that aij vantage has been taken of these clauses. Ooih. Grat.— I understand Mr W. to argue, that, undetl sucK leases thev have the power, and that this power iJ inconsistent with the general welfare. | Mr W. — When I came out here. I had the power tol grant such leases ; but I refused to act, if I could Qot| give people leases by which they could live. Com. Grav.— In our province a mfto Hkea to sell woodj knees, &c., off his farm, to help him alpng while he iij clearing it. ,>j,i ^,, ,,^^ ^,^wC'i^;,ld assembled, an un- derstrapper of the, proprietor, Mr Ntohol, came also. He is woQafraoger far Mr Stewart, ajnd when he oame he wished to know if they woold depitive'^Mr S. of his rights. The fact is, the people were sent home withoat^ doing anj' Ihiog. Soma.of toese peoj^are preafrnt. They cao^ corroborate my statements. .y;i^iJ»»0Q f..' Conk. Bowie,— Do I ^mder^iUifid yoii 16 6af ' the people are afraid to oome to thiti Oottrt? " * -»*-'* '.! THE LAND COKMISSIOK. 48 Mr W.— Such is the fact ; and what can be expected lorn such a system 1 A committee was afterwards appoint' to draw up resolutions to present to this Oommission. fere is a copy o( them, and you will see how mild they are. [ere Mr W . read their resolutions. They merely stated kat they could never be happy or prosperous under the rent ^stom ; that they were anxious to become freeholders, and lould use every exertion to comply with the terms which )e Royal Commission misht propose.] Respecting the ftviil value of the land, i may make a few remarks. I ^ve 600 acres in m^ farm ; of these 150 are cleared. be clearing and fencing cost me £1000 ; and if you place jt value on the improvements it will come to about ys 6d ir acre, that is, if my statements are borne out. I am It ashamed to say I work for my living ; but I maintain kat people in this country, without means, cannot make [liviDS out of a wilderness farm. There muy be a few Eceptions. You will find many farms cleared in this Is- lod, but the persons who cleared them do not now own \em. jOom. UowK. — Do you mean to say that these fine farms have passed have changed hands? [Mr W. — I believe many of them have. In fact, if a in clears a farm, a present of it to hiih. would be all it i worth ; still if the titles are good, the people wo\iId not biect to paying the price at which the Governh ont has lid their lands. [Com. Qbay.— What is that ' -> S: -^ [Mr W. — Some for 10s an acre, and some for Is Gd. [Hon. Col- Grat. — I wish to elucidate a point. They tre not, properly speaking, Government lands ; bat sre bought by the Government under trust ; and the »vernuioiit was bound to sell them for a sum whioh )uld pay expenses. Ir W.— -It was purchased by the Government, though it properly speaking, Government land, [Hop. Col. Grav. — May I ask Mr Warburton if he has. ited that the people would not object to the terms lioh he has now mentioned 1 Would they pay Ts for ids worth only Is 6d an acre 1 [Com. Howe. — £ understand you to say, Mr W., thai the )ple would not object to pay lOs for the front lands ; ion the back; and for the poorest on the back, they ^uld not give Is 6d an acre ? Ir W.— Yes ; and including a proviso respecting the le allowed for paying. Ion. Col. ORAT.—Does not Mr Warburton think that if an- ler plan can be adopted, such as the payment of inatalinents I the laodlords, with redaction of rent, would it not be prefer- ile to sabjaciing himself to the provisions of a Land Purchase ^'■^-•rrvta^S u THE LAND COMMISSION. T ^, ■rrft ■[■lit 1! ; I I Bill? For my own part, I woald like to see the leuunts have the liberty of paying an instalment when they pleased. A little altercation taking place between parties at this June. ture — Com, Gray remarks — Our object i* to elicit full informa- tion. Coun. Palmer. — I think that one acting upon the proprie^ tors' interests, would better understand the q'jestion if Govern. | ment matters were left out of the investigation. Com. Gray. — I stated before, that, in this Court, we did not I confine ourselves within those limits which were recognized in ordinary Courts. Though there may be occasionally a little ebullition of feeling, we can make allowance. We, however,' apart from the politics of the Island, are here conducting a fatrl inquiry. Men long in public life know that it is difBcult, on such occasions, to exclude party feelingv We felt that, as the counsel represented the tenantry, the questions should coiTiej through them. We allo%ved Mr Warburton to make the btate* ments he desired, [and questions may be put to him by a mem- ber of the Government, or by any other paity, so as to elicit alll the information possible.] We have opened our Court in the most liberal way; therefore it would not be fair to exclude Col.| Gray. Coun. Palmer. — Col. Gray \a here on the part of thai Government. Hon. Col. Gray. — I am not here as a member of the Gov. ernMenir, but as a private citizen, native born, seeking thai public good. Counsel for the tenantry have been appointed, but, that does not exclude a private man from coming here to| render aid in eliciting information. Com. Howe. — Mr VY. you have mentioned a very impor- tant point, touching the liberties of the whole Island. Itisl useless to bestow free institutions on any country, if the people are not allowed to vote as they please. Has it been the practice of the proprietors by means of thesel leases to deter people from voting as they chose ? Mr W. — It has, and some have been compelled to vote.l Com. Gray. — People may use their influence in tbiil way, but not by intimidation. Mr W.— Mr John M*Lean, of Lot 9, received a threat-) ening letter from Mr Yeo. f^fi Com. Gray. — Was it in reference t) voting ? M? W.— It was. Com. Ritchie. — Were letters addressed to all on the Lot!| Mr John M'Lean.— The letter was addrefssed to me, bat| specially for all the tenants. Mr Warburton. — I am glad Mr McLean has come for- ward. Since Mr M'Lean has eome out, I believe otberl gentlemen will come, with documents which will keep J^ou for a year. It ma^ be said this species of work has ateljr come into operation ; but when I was a proprietor'i mai!!i seme years ago, Mr Yeo took me ijto his office oo(| " V'« 1 1 rtsu THE LAND COMMISSION. •^.T ived a threat- day after an election, and shewed me thirty-two writs, I which he was going to issu^ against voters. There [is another class worthy attention, not represented here to- l^ay. I ro^or to thQ freeholders who are obliged to pay Itaxes to support the Government, which the proprietors igreed to do in forii.er years. I, and many others pay taxes for this purpose, but had the quit rents been col- lected, the Government could have been supported with- )at our doing so. Com. Gray. — You say " ?f the quit rents were collect- jd." When you ask them .^ pay these rents, do you not acknowledge the validity of their titles? Mr'VY. — [ speak of proprietors in regular possession. Com. iliTCHiE — Would not the Crown, proceeding to bke these rents from the landlords, also collect tbeiA. from the tenants ? '¥•' Com. Gray.— Suppose a Lot where the proprietor never rtaid these rents, what would you do under such circum- Itances ? Mr W.— I would sell his claim. Coun. TnousoN. — I understand Mr W. to 8t<^te that if le proprietor will not pay these rents, their interest in (be land should be sold out. Com. HowK. — Suppose the proprietors' titles uot to be disturbed, and that as a measure of policy, this Commis- |ion reports a mode by which lease-holders may convert ]eir properties into freeholds, I assume the rights of kioprietors are in some way to be recognized. We shut [ot out the enquiry to the fulle&t extent respecting the Itles of proprietors, but suppose a system b^ which Wnts, by some instrumentality, were enabled, in a rea- )Dable period, to become free -holders, do you think le prices paid by the Governuemii for the estates which has bougnt, would be i fair purchase for the whole Is- ^nd? Mr W. — I am not in a position to answer ; but I know lere is a decided objection to paying rent. You will id in the public journals and records an account of a [bole district in actual rebellion on account of unjust de- lands for rent. After all, the system which would enable knants to purchase, would not be satisfactory unless the ^rties selling proved that their titles were good. Com. Howe. — I imagine you are descended from an [istocratio family ; your ancestors, no doubt, did service 1 military campaigns . jMr W. — My father was Aidecamp to General Wolfe at Is taking of Quebec. Com. IlowE. — The old gentleman did good service, I p say, for the fall of Quebec settled the title to all our ids.— We will suppose then that General Welsh re- M o -n ':i ll ■:' A0r THE LAND COMMISSION. grant? ceiled in ooasideratioo for bis aervioea a ffrsnt of land in this Island ; suppose he agreed to put 200 foreign Pro- testants on it, which he oould not do ; the oonditiona upon which he received it, not being able to be fulfilled, do you think it would be right after the lapse of 60 or 70 years, that the desoendents of that old soldier be deprived of their possessions ? Mr W.— I consider so ; if he did not endeavor to sell his property. Cora. Gray. — Take, for example, a person like yourself, who has gone on the land nf a man who has not fulfilled the conditions upon which he received it; and considering the improvements you have put upon it, and looking forward to it as the inheritance of your children, have you acquired any right in it? Mr. W.—No. Com. Gray. — Do you think it would be right for & person to come and say to you, we will take this property from you, because Gen. Welsh did not perform the conditions of his Mr. W. — I think that case does not refer to the general question. Ifthelandis forfeited, however, lam prepared to purchase mine over again. 'i Tii^v,' t*? i- ,jr,^ ..^., Com. Ritchie. — Suppose a man has 100 acres in his pos- ission, and he has made it worth JETIOOO, you would allow |ir.j to give the proprietor for it only lOs. an acre? Mr. VV. — No more. Com. Ritchie — That would reduce it to about 10 ' ^^t» lurchase. Coun. Palmer. — You were formerly a land " 'ent And a kpresentative in the Legislature, but now you ; neither — |at is your position, is it? Yes. Very well. — ^ )u lave ited that proprietary influence was used In several places elections; and you mentioned Mr Yeo's name. — Mr Warburton. — I beg pardon a moment, there is another kse in which you yourself are personally concerned; 1 thank )u for the reference; I have it from Mr. Coles; it occurred Tignish ; do you wish to hear it now? [Coun. Palmer. — 1 object to second-hand information. [Conn. Haliborton. — Since my learned friend is now )ught in, and so much of politics has been introduced, if W. thinks it necessary, let him bring Mr. Coles, that may hear the circumstance from himself. ^ ^oan. Thomson.— 'It is admitted that this Court is not con- > kcted merely on legal principles, documents are alluded to phout being produced, &c. Mr. Haliburton thinks politics >old not be alluded to, but I say politics should be men-^ ked; it is for this Commission to break down that opprei- v^ } .-:'! 48 THE LAND COMMISSION. I I' I I sive systecn, and so politics must come in lo this extent, that it is a lesiiimale subject ot investigation to coosider how Proprietors' inferests in this Colony have shackled down the tenantry so tlini ilieir rights dare not be exercised. , Conn. Palmki;. — I will have this mauer investigated in the proper time and wiiy; hut it would be contrary to everything fair to hear it nuw from tiiird parties. Com. Howe. — Mr. Warburton has made statements here, and Mr. Palmer may cross-examine him; I iliink. too, ii wojid be perfectly legitimate for Mr. Yeo, being in Court, to have an opportunity t«> make any statements he might chouse to offer. I take it, iidwever. tiiat Mr. W. iias given this in- formaiioo irrespective of any feeliiiij towards Mr. Yeo Coun. Palmek. — Respecting Escheat, Mr. W., from your remarks I understand you do not deem it impracticable; but how du you explain this opinion with-your views on this subject as taken by the Parliamentary Reporter — and here I will read from the volume in which they are contained. — In this repot t it is ata^ted that the hopes of esclieai are with- out foundation? Mr. Warburton. — Ai different political meetings 1 stated I would not advocate the escheat of lands. I said I thought it was nectissary some nieasuie .should he adopted without having recourse to one which had been refused by different Colonial Secretaries. I thought the Purchase Bill would settle all disputes botweun landlord and tenant. A Bill was passed authorizing the ^ Home Government to guarantee jCIOO 000 sterling. But I also said that if the Proprietors! resisted I would forego ray opinions concerning escheat.! And thus ii happened; at the last election the Proprietors! did all they could to oppose the vUvfa of tie Gov^r.(*t()ei)t' I offes this in explanation. ,..,*!. Com. Howe — 1 do nut yet understand why you revert lo your old opinion. Mr. Warburton. — I do so, because the Proprietors used their influence against the PurchaseBill. They even peiiiion- ed against the loan. Com Howe! — Did they! Mr. Warburton. — You "will find their petition in the Journals of the House of Assembly. / Cim. Gray. — That is important. Mt. Warburton.- Agents and Proprietors were the means of having it disallowed- Cora. Gray. — You thought the question must be settled in some way? Mr. W. — Yes. Coun. Haliburton. — Do you know the highest price paid for wild lands? Mr. Warburton. — In some localities I believe JC3 pei acre, for wood lands, for the fuel but I would be glad to get that prJce for my cleared lands. ,^iS{\(f3*uh tsR *r*T ^V-^ THE LAND COMMISSION. 49 y you revert lo: Com. IIowE. — You would take £3 for \.he lands which coal voii £5 to clear ihem; wliat makes thai land of so little falue? One reason is the climate; cattle need to be housed seven months in the year. Coun. Haliburton. — Suppose the Governrnenl became ,»rnprielor. would it not require great influence in tliia way? Sot if controlled by law. Would it not give the Govern- ment the same power the landlord now possesses? No; pub- [ic opinion would be a check. Would it not give them the nower to givo the good lands to their friends ? i think not ; [he law provides that the occupant have the first ofler. 1 Consider the influence of the Governmoni w(»uld be trifling, Compared with that of the Proprietor under the existing ivsiein. Com. Howe — You spoke about the threats of Mr. Yeo, ire yu aware of anything being done under them? Mr. W^. -I merely stated the facts. Mr. Warburton tri the Commissioners: — I have en- jeavored to show your honors the system is a bad one. I [hank you for the h<»noi you have conferred upon me in giv- \g me so respectful a hearing. I hope your labors will be Irowned with that success wiiich every^ person so much lesires. Mr N. CoNROY addresses the Court. After making a few preliminary remarks, Mr Conroy spoke as follows: — I know lany facts- concerning the differences between landlord and Bnant. )n 1835, when I first settled in Tignish, no proprietors rere recognized on Lots One and Two. There had been some )rnpetitor3 for proprietorship, but previous to that period, lough the people were asked, and even pressed to pay rent, till they always refused. I was present when the first recogni- kon of a proprietor took place on Lot Two. 1 saw the (irat ar* ingement made for this purpose, and shall briefly relate the ^articalars. !Vlr Peters, now Judge Peters, who was at that Ime agent for Mr Curiard, having some indistinct knowledge of |e, came, and desired me as I knew the people to accompany Urn to a certain house. 1 did so. When we arrived, many of le inhabitants were usseatbled. Mr Peters told them, Mr ^unard was the proprietor of the Lot, and wished them to at* )rn to him as their landlord; but they refused, Just a^ they had sfused to attorn to Mr Hill, some years previous. They >veie ree, and desired to remain so if possible. Mr Pfite'S, then poke to ihem of the wealth and power of Mr 'Junard in Halifa.x. [e said he was an iofluentiaj gentleman in that City, und to old out against him would be preposteroas. The better way j|aa,to pay rents; he would protect them: and they would have honorable gentleman for their landlord. After much half iaxing, and half threatening they signed a paper which he jrishtid them to subscribe. Some time after this Mr Ptjters and Ir Palmer came to some arrangmnunt respecting l.oi One, [•hey accordingly sent word tQ the people, saying ,th^y were loming to get them to i.ike leases. Th-; people met ilw^in, but } t t V II*! I k , ;■!■ hi', i' ;l 50 THE LAND COMMISSION. nnanimoaily refused to have dnyiluQg to do with them. Messrs, Peters and Palmer remained a week, and were on the eve of leaving, when, anfortunately, the people began to misander- ■tand each other— one thought another was going to get his farm, and so forth, and the result was, all made a rush to the proprietor to attorn. I was present, and saw the rejoicing of the proprietors on that occasion. I will now inform your Honors about the terms upon which these people took leases, and show how they got into difficulties. The leases were for a term of 999 years, and at Is sterling an acre. In addition to this, they signed notes of hand for £ 10, to be paid up to the 26th March, then last past. Your Honors will remember that another year's rent was then nearly due, so that by the coming 25th of March, which was about one month hence, they were involved in .£15 arrears Now, some who signed those notes of hand, were very foor, and for them to make good their notes, was impossible. n the meantime, the proprietor pressed and threatened them, so that the greater number left tbeir farms from sheer inability to pay these arrears. This I would cull a real grievance. At that time from that district to this place (St. Eleanor's) there was no means of passing without crossing three 'arge ferries, I may say, too, that at the present day there is very little money in circalation, but there was exceedingly less then. The only man you could get« money from then, was Mr Yeo; so the peo- ple were either at the mercy of the landlord or of their own fears. So much terror was inspired by the thought of a half- dozen Lawyers coming from Charlottetown, that the French, who, then were more simple than they are now, vCoald rather , go to the woods than encounter them. [Laughter] In this manner have these Lots been settled. Parties who then held front lands, have moved back, while others have stepped in and taken their places. They took wood lands, settled down on the same terms, and now, many of them are ready to start again. Com. Ritchie. — Had these persons ever signed leases be- fore that time ? ' Mr CoNROY. — It was the first time they came under terms, t Com. Gray. — Had the people no friends ? Mr Con ROY. — However disposed I might have been to bi; their friend, I could not be of much service to them. I was then only 25 years of age, and a stranger and ignorant of the affairs of the country. 1 wished to show you, that these £15 of arrears, which became due so soon, rendered them unable ever after to meet the demands' of the proprietor. Whenever he chose to say, I want £10 cash, they would have to leave their farms, though they had labored on them for 30 years. In more than 20 instances this took place. Such was their po- sition, that persons coming with a little money in their pockets conld take advantage of their labor. To obtain a livelihood, they mast, ontside of their farms have recourse to fishing and other employments. Look around; take St. Eleanor's for ex- ample, go through it; and in not one half dozen of instances will yoa find that the persons who cleared these farms now own them. T))e French inhabitants, hare made this beautiful conn' "il'^w* •'•;?«' •.5«"i,'»'^! ij,-i ' •VJl,I»!f«>. THE LAND COMMISSION. 51 under terms. irY which you now see. They look down the fore«t, and barties blesaed with more means than they , entered upon their ibora. The French have been driven back. Com. Howe.— Were they driven back by the British Go¥- (rnment or by the proprietora ? Mr CONROY. — The cause was thoir inability to pay rent. Com. HowK. — When did the French leave this Lot ? Mr CoNROY. — I suppose the settlement of Tignish took slace about 59 years ago. At that time there was no house on Lot 12 excepting a Mr Hardy's These people have gone on slearing on Lots One and Two. and some of them have cleared (oO acres from the water's edge to the rear of their farms, own 100 acres of this description. Com. Gray, — Was no proprietor acknowledged up to 1835 ? Mr CoNROY. — No. Down to that time rent was never paid any one. There had been great uncertainty with the people, bowever; for, for many years they heard parties were coming to llaim rent. Like many other acts which men do, when they lad attorned, then they knew they had done wrong, and the ^nsequence of this renectiou was, that they grew into a rebel- The notes they signed for arrears was the cause of that listurbance. Writs were issued against them, and after a time le Sheriff came. As happens in all proceedings carried on irongh fear, so it occurred in this instance ; the reaction was ^ost extraordinary. When the Sheriff came they were most ibmissive, and even rowed themselves to jail — to this very )nse. [Laughter. ] Coun. Thomson. — Did they not petition Sir Henry Huntley, \e Governor ? Mr CoNROY. — They did, acknowledged their wrong and got It on bail, and I am not aware they should be called disloyal Bcanse they refused to pay rent. I think they were encouraged other parts of the Island to resist the proprietor, but they, (eing them once engaged, left them alone to fight the battle, [hey became so disgusted with them for treating them in such [manner, that they submitted, perhaps, almost too humbly. I ly state farther, that the terms up«n which they received their ads were at the option of the proprietor. Here is a paper, gn it, or you will be made to feel the consequence of your re- These threats, though not carried out, had the desired lect, for these very people are now the best rent-payers. They ^ve sacrificed even the conveniences of life to meet the de- lands of the landlord. This rent, too, in many instances, is lid, not off their farms, but comes from the proceeds of fish lich they sell. Mr Warburton has stated he thought the land I that district would compare favorably with the land elsewhere ; It I think differently. I see a striking difference in the crops; I travel in this direction, they are so much superior. Con- rniDg the titles of proprietors, I may remark, that if you once re a man the notion th^t a landlord has no title, the idea jkosea him much annoyance, abd makes conaiderable confusion his mind. There is a pian on Lot One who bought a farm }m a man who had never attorned, and who had lived on it i^ It i'l, ll'il m THE LAND COMMISSION. tor It few yearn Mr Palmer came, asked liim for rent, but htl fefu:n«d 10 pay, buying, — I have possKssion, if vou have a beiUtl right ttiaii I have, yoa can turn me out. Mr Piilmer showeil| him a memorandum which wont to say the former occapaotj took the land, and the man, wr Doyle, aubmiiied. But had not been fur these line.t, otlering to take the land, ho would have| stood him a trial. At present there is a good understanding ei- isting between tenants and the proprietor; still they have beeii| given to understand, that something is going to be done for theml There are fluctuating opinions among them, but their great anii.| ety is to get their lands as low as possible. I think they wunlj be willing to pay a moderate sum for their freeholds. Com. HowK. — What do yoa call a moderate sum ? Mr CoNROY — About 7s 6d an acre. Com. Howe. — Would you think 10s too high? Mr Con ROY. — I would; but it would be received with joj rather than be in the position in which they are at present, think, however, it would not be fair to put the man, who b}l much iiitruggling has kept his rent paid up, on the same level with him, who through mismanagement or otherwise is inl arrears. Com. Howe. — How would yoa accomplish that object ? Mr CoNROY. — I would m^.ke a deduction from the amount o[| rent he had paid. Com. HowB. — ^That woald be difficult. The presnmption i!i that a man who has paid his rent, is able to do so, but that thtl man who has not paid it, is unable; and if he is worse oflT, hil should rejoice that his neighbor is in better circumstances thaii| himself. [Laughter.] Mr Con ROY. — I will now mention a 'circumstance which wil show your Honors how easily some of these people were prej vailed upon to attorn. There was one Frenchman, who bil some means, was passed over when the others attorned. Htl had been in possession of his farm for 30 or 40 years. Mr Petenl at length becoming aware of him, sent him a note, commandiiii| him to come and attorn. ^Hu forthwith resolved to comply. 11 met him whert on his wdy to Mr Peters, and said, *'WeII,| Eleare, where are you going?" *'0h! I receive this letteil from Mr Peters, and I am going to see him." Go home, voil foolish man, said I, and I laughed at him. He took my advict;! but, had Mr Peters sent him another note, he would have hal| his farm. Com. Gray — That shows the advantage in having a gooij friend. [Laughter.] Com. HowK — Are there any cases where they have M pluck er.ough to hold out against the proprietor ? Mr Con ROY. — Yes. Com. HowB. — In these cases have the proprietors brongbi them to Court, and proved their titles ? Mr CoNROY. — 'Not to my knowledge, excepting they hai^ some document or promise from the tenants. I heard a frieoil of mine say he could not maintain his title unless he had ai| .igreemenr. from the tenants Whatever may be 'Me fwelinj'l THE LAND COMMISSION. 53 tprietors broagbi iless he had ai"'|| \l be *^o feelirj^ ^onglioul the Island, and howevtsr legal may be the titles of ^prieiora, still it is my improsaion that, had the people acted kperly at first they would hav« had their lands free. All in f neighborhood, 1 believe hold agreements. [Some questions were proposed to Mr Conroy respecting the kery reserves. Of these reserves ho thought the tenants bald be the proprietors; and he thought the amount of rent leived for them, should be deducted from the price of the )g, if the tenantH get an opportunity to purchase their free- Is] Jro«8-examined byCouh. Palmer. — You were present, yoa f, when these people attorned. Ye?. Were the leases wit- Isedbyyou? IVIany of thorn were. Are you aware of parties [Lot One wishing to purchase at 20d an acre? I believe ly of them would rather do anything than be under a pro- eiur. To your knowledge, have not some of them consider- means ? Not with the exceptioA of half a dozen. Yon you never knew a proprietor to produce his title in Court, lecting Lot One, — do yon know the last tenant who held !? S. Gallant, 1 believo. You recollect of my going to irt. — do yoa not know the defendant retained Mr Binns, who an able Lawyer ? He may have done so. Yon know »n the Frenchman came to Court he submitted? I beMeve lid. torn. Grav. — Was it by proof of the title, or by the admis- of the tenant, ■ that is the point? it CoNAOY. — The Frenchman got frightened, I believe, submitted. Gallant gave me in his name to appear here witness. He tiaid he could tell as lamentable a story as lone. [orn. Gray,— We are much obliged to you, Mr Conroy.— information you have afTtrded h.is been exceedingly iute- ing. [r. B. Da vies, who appeared as a delegate for Township tl; the Brae, Caacumpec, and for Lots 27 and 28, ad- Ised the Court:-— |y Lords: HaviD>; been named as a delegate in conneo- with Hon. J. Warburton and Messrs. Conroy and he, as well as with mj colleagues from Lots 27 and 28, ish to say a few words respecting the Land Tenures of Island. Your Excellencies have heard from the gen- lon who have preceded me, of the treatment to which French settlers were subjected by the Proprietors; and \yi also wish to prove that the same practices have been jsed upon us British settlers. Before doing so 1 would |t out the reasons why the injustice which has been the French, is a trangreesion and a public wrong in- ed by the proprietors. Your Excellencies are aware of fact, that at the time this Island was ceded by France Ireat Britain the same privileges were promised to the leot settlers here as those guaranteed to the Acadian 4 il' I .:. I« il J I I . 64 THE LAND COMMISSION. Frenoh ia Oanada, and in the other British North Amen;; can Colonies of Her Majesty. In the Treaty of 1763, jtij expressly stipulated " that the Frenoh who remained i; that time were to be peacefully protected in their landt ' holdings;" and this stipulation has been faithfully adhenJ to in all the Provinces, this one excepted. In this Pn| vinoe they have been driven from their ancient possesBioii and deprived of their improvements, without any considg ation. Com. Howe. — In Canada, I presume, the same treii obtains; but there the right is vested in the Seigneurs, Mr. D. — True, my lord, but perhaps there were Seigneg here too. Com. Ritchie. — Allow me to inform you that the stip lations to which you refer only apply to the Seigneurs sii as those in Canada. This being the case, the French hi| do not come within the bounds of the Treaty as the S» neors do in Canada. Mr. D. — With due deference to the opinion of your] cellency, I would remark that the stipulation in the Treij applied to the holders of land being of French origin; tha fore I think the term Seigneur in Frenoh means a propi] tor of land, or what we call a freeholder. Be this ai] may, it is certain the French were guaranteed their hoi ings. I contend these people are '* petite Seigneurs;'' « as sometimes we call our freeholders, small propriety These people were guaranteed protection on the faith ofi Crown, but the proprietors overruling, have driven th from their possessions. Com. Grat — Assuming what you say to be correct] would only have reference to them. Com. Ritchie. — The Treaty would give the French i tiers here no title to the land. The French oapitulif upon the terms that they should bold the farms on wii they were, but that left the titles as at present. Mr. Davies here read an address which was presenceii| Her Majesty, from the journals of 1850, page 24, whicf as follows: — TO THE QUEEN'S MOST EXCELLENT MAJESTY, Most Obacious Sovereign ; We your Majesty's faithful Subjects, the House of Assembl!^ Prince Edward Island, feel grateful, that in compliance vitlil Address of the late House of Assembly, dated 28th March 1 your Majesty has been graciously pleased to direct theldettta| Governor, to reduce the upset prices heretofore demanded f Crown Lands in this Island, to the sum of Twenty-five Foi Currency, for every One Huud red Acres. The House of/ beg to bring under your Majesty's consideration, that the year when this Island, together with the Provinces of < TH,E LAND COMMISSION. J^ r to be correct] ^T MAJESTY.! Nova Scotia were ceded by France to Great Britain, it WM ^ulatcd by Treaty, dated lOth Foburary 1768, that the French, I then inhabitants of those Provinces, should not be disturbed .Jieir possessions. The House of Assembly beg to remark that French inhabiting this Island, liave been the only exception to I stipulation thus made,and while the Fi-ench people inhabiting J Province of Canada, obtained the full benefits of the foregoing Hulatioii, the French inhabiting this Island were altogether de- red of the arrangement thus entered into, and so wisely carried in the former Province. That in the year 1769, the whole of Island was granted away in Lots of Twenty Thousand Acres, [certain conditions, to private individuals, without any reser- tlon in favor of the French inhabiting the Island at the time, that in the year 1817, His Excellency the then Lieutenant Pernor Smith of this Island, got Escheated two Lots, viz: No«. und 65, and that at that time, when a number of the French ibitants were deprived of their possessions by the grantees and assigns, a deputation of the said French waited upon His bellency, pmying his protection, when His Excellency was sed to declare unto them, that they might settle on Lot No. I and need not fear being thereafter disturbed in their posses- ; for that said Lot i-everted to the CrowA, and that the whole would be granted to them in fee simple, for the sum of Four ids Ten Shillings Currency, {£i lOs. Cy.,) for every One tdred Acres of land. That notwithstanding the assurance thus pn, after His ExceUency's departure from the Island, the price lie said lands was raised to the sum of One Hundred Pounds ency, (£100 Cy.,) for every One Hundred Acres, a sum far pnd the valuation of the land, and higher than said French able to pay; and now that Your Majesty has been graciously " to order the retluction of the price of the Crown Lands in Island, the House of Assembly beg to submit, that said ich Inhabitants are so reduced in circumstances, that they are even able to comply with the modified order thus made, and louse of Assembly conceiving, that that measure of justice lot been extended to them which was stipulated by the Treaty 763, when the North 'American Provinces were ceded to Great iin; and that even the assurance made to them by His Excel- Lieutenant Governor Smith, hath not been fkithfUUy carried [humbly submit that the French located on Lot 15 have a oltum Your Majesty's Government, and pray that Your Majesty [be graciously pleased to take the treatment they have received pnsideration, and cause orders to be given to the Lieutenant emor of this Island, that it is Your Majesty's Royal pleasure [the assurance made to them by His Excellency tJ^e late Lieut nor Smith, of this Island, shall be fiuthfully adhered to. , >an. Thomson. — I understand that according to the |ty the French sboald be undisturbed in their poMei- 9, and that as an act of indemnity to them the Briiiih i;ed themselves not to interfere; and I, as a lawjer, nj that was equivalent to a grant to the French inhahv- il f 1)1 56 THR LAND ■ M' , |i > • ••> COMMISSION. i''^1 r Com. llowi.— Ik would go to. this extent, that the ffraoti to the proprietors were subioqueot to the Treaty. When the Treaty was signed there was no proprietor in existence, ■0 the Frenoh occupants might be considered the owners ofj the land. If the grants were issuod in violation of a solemn i Tresty, that is fair ground for the Counsel to tuke to sbswj they have a strong claim upon the British Government. Coun. Thomson. — Just so; and I say this Commission I is here to redresN all wrongs. I maintain the proprietor! | cannot come here with a better title than the British Got- ernment. If they can, the British Qovernment should b«| arraigned before all nations; for they must have known, otl ought to have known, that the proprietors took grants made! pledgi in violation of a Treaty, and were thus guilty of a fraud. Cora. KiTCuii. — When the grants were passed and recog- nised for 87 years, would it nut be a perfect delusion tu think of overturning them now on these grounds ! Is England and Ireland, titles to land made and conGrmed bj long practice of law are not now disturbed. Cuun. Thomson. — I sny then, that the other was a per feet enure. Mr. Daviks.— On the saino ground, if a man stole a bor8t| and kept him for 20 years, he would have a right to hitn Com. Gray. — I think the British Government did noi steal this Island. Mr. D. — The French have been very badly uaed. The^ have been driven from their possessions back into the woods and the Indians have been treated in a similar manner The Legislature thought it neoe^ary to call the attentioi of Her Sf ajesty to this subject, and I thought it was m duty to bring it before your Court. When in Cbarlott town your £soellencies courted information respecting tbi land tenures, from any correct source, and considering thii case as not only affecting the French settlers, but one aisi which might affect the peace of the Empire, I considered i| praoti my duty to lay it before your Excellencies. Claims r ^ countries have been set up by France on less founded pn tensions. I leave the case in your bands, believing joi will do justice to these people. Com. Gray. — We are much obliged to you, Mr. Duvie for calling our attention to this matter. Everybody mu feel that the French have been ill-used, still there is mu in what Mr. Ritchie says, that in Britain titles long coi firmed are not now disturbed. ;i;i Mr. D. — My lords: I have many important points touch upon, which have not been mentioned by the geotij men who appeared before you, b>th here and in Cbarlotti town. In touching upon those topics I shall be as brief their importance will admit. I may first refer to a ci of swindling on the part of a proprietor. Some years <^i the t for 71 delivi their propi sny r bow 1 the p: land, to No tatiun ed a e out of oers oi Colonj 8 faotl Rents, ment e ways e govern bave fu tom of Again: since tl one ari tenauti former ed, Hi\(j on the a Coui ed lane Com Mr. Com Mr. and thi recomn it; for obtainc try. beoam( cheat claims. 000 aci land in Lot 67 chased Lords 1\ TMK LAND COMMiaSION. 57 t the icraDti ity. When in exiatenoe, le ovrners of I or a solemn uke to ehe^ eminent. ^ CommiisioD proprietoti British Got It should be ve known, oi grants made of a fraud, ted and reoog- delusion tu rrounds t Id 'oonficmed bj er was a per ) stole a born right to him ment did no uaed. Thej ito the woods lilar manner the attentioi a it was n; in Charlotte respecting th msidering thi but one als [ considered i Claims i founded pn believing yo 8. e u, Mr. Davie rybody mui there is mui ties long coi bant points _ by the gentl i in Cbarlott A be as brief refer to a ca )me yeara a the Fretiuh oo Lot 10 Q|j(reed to buy a lar^e tract of land for 7000 tons of timber. The timber, all to a few tonB,waf delivered; but when they wished to be put in possession of their land, they were laughed at. Whether the agent or proprietor whs to blame in this matter, I cannot say. At any rate the French lost timber, land and all. This shows bow little faith a tenant can place in a man claiming to be the proprietor of land. Respecting the history of tliii Is- land, your lordships are aware thiit it was originally joined to Nova Sootiu; and that it was to " the prayers and solici- tations of the proprietors the Crown listened when it grant- ed a separate and distinct Government,*' — the petitioners pledging themselves to pay up their Quit Rents regularly, out of which fund the Lieutenant Governor and other offi- oers of the Crown should draw their salaries, that this Colony become not a burden on the mother country. It is a fact, however, that the proprietors never paid any Quit Rents, and consequently, the officers of the early Govern- ment suffered great inconveniences. These men have al- ways exercised a control over our affairs, and in fact they govern this Colony to the present day. In short, they have failed in every engagement, and have been at the bot- tom of every schism wliioh has been raised in this Colony. Again: the land question which has agitated this Island since the year 1800, is a public one, and distinct from the one arising from the dissatisfaction and oppression of the tenantry. The latter question is one of later birth. The former was promulgated at the time which I have mention- ed, and Governor Fanning recommended to the Legislature on the part uf the Crown, the passing of a Bill to establish a Court of Escheat for reinvesting in the Crown the forfeit- ed lands of the Colony. Com llowE — We have heard of this before. Mr. D. — True, my lord, but not in connection with the practices which I would bring to your notice. Com. Howe — Go on. ' Mr. D. — I stated Governor Fanning was an escheator, and that the Legislature passed a Bill agreeably with bis recommendation. Now I want to show how he acted under it; for it is believed that he.as well as other land claimants, obtained their lands for inxportant services, done their coun- try. Governor Fanning, instead oi administering the laws became a land-jobber, holding the power of a Court of Es- cheat over the heads of the proprietors. lie bought their claims. He obtained the larger half of Lot 50, about 12,- 000 acres, — at this time one of the finest tracts of settled land in the country — for £35. That was the value in 1807. Lot 67 in the heart of the Island, and well wooded, he pur* chased for £7; and other tracts were purchased, some by Lord Selkirk, for example, at about these prices. A few I ' t ■ .1 4 m ii M I;' i::i ■ii< t ■m THE LAJID COMMISSION. jean afler large tracts of the ooun'try were bought up, or trausferred, at these rates. The public records bear me oat in my statements. I mention these things to shew the value of land at that period, and to shew that the grantees considered their grants forfeited, when tney trang- ferred their claims for such trifling sums. I have in my possession a letter from John Cambridge, Esq., dated Oct. 1805. I shall hand it to your hon. Court. It was written iq reply to an enquiry from Capt. Stewart, the great War. wick, who formerly removed our Governors when they be- oauic obnoxious to the proprietory interests, asking how he got Lot 14. In the lietter he says " for a cask of wine." fa' addition I have to state, that there are proprietors who claim lands without grants. These gentlemen we call *' squatter proprietors," in contradistinction to a class they Renominate *' equatters.'' The latter improve the country, and have no superior save the Crown. Com' Ghay. — Ara not the rAcorda of all the grants in the Register's Office ? Mr Da VIES. — There are recordaof the grants of a number of .Townships registered in that office, but 10 or 12 Townships are not recorded. The law does not compel proprietors to record their grants, and this is one of the grievances of which we com- plain. Another grievance is that a man can claim land, and force a settler to become a tenant, though he may have no right to the land. - ^^ :. ^ Com. Grav. — Surely not ! , Mr Da VIES. — It is true, my Lord, and the Bar helps it out, Gold or an agency ensures many a claim. The party thas claiming land employs one of our pliable attornies; he gets ao instrument from the Court citing the settler to appear, who, whea he does so, is told he is not wanted. This ptactice is kept up in some cases, as Mr Warburton stated for six sittings of the Court; but if by illness or absence from the Island, the settler fails to appear, judgment is given againat him by default; and then he must become a tenant or leave his farm. In this wajf hundreds have been frightened into taking leases. of the removal of Gov» Smith. According to his instructions he was bound to collect those rents. In doing this he was compelled to distrain upon the under tenants. This caused great agitation. They were given to understand that the exaction would be made yearly, and that the Governor would not convoke the Legislature. Be- foro, however, Gov. Smith could pot the law in force against the tenants of the crown, he was shipped away. il -i! L'l''! I .'l i! ii M1 r j ■ !: y l'l: k III ^•'1 60 THE LAND COMMISSION . Com. Howiiu — I do not understand one part of this matter ; If Gov. Smith was carrying out his instructions in collecting the rents in payment of the Quit Rents rrom the under tenants, why were the proprietors opposed to him ? Mr Da VIES. — The law directs that after the Lieut. Governor has collected arrears from the undertenants which arrears were to go towards paying Quit Rents, the balance, which would be about £100,000 Stg. would have to be paid by tho proprietors; but the Governor had first to proceed agaiosl the under tenantj). In doing so, he became unpopular with the people. Tho pro- prietory party made the most of tho dissatisfaction they could by inducing the people to sign Petitions, calling upon the Crowii to remove him from the Colony. That, by removing Governor Smith, the tenants of the Crown effected their design, viz ; evading payment of the balance of the Quit Rents. When Governor Smith went home he received a pension nearly eqaal to the sum he was to receive in this province; because the charges preferred against him, upon re-investigation, were dis- covered to be unfounded, and that he had discharged his duty when here agreeably to the Royal instructions and the law, About 1825 Mr Cooper was sent home by the Assembly for the purpose of investigating the land tenures of the proprietors, and to ask for a re investment of forfeited lands in the Crown, Mr Cooper was not attended to, for the voice of the people could not reach beyond the doors of the Assembly. For this reason he could not but be unsuccessful in the object of his mission. When Governor (yampbell was appointed to this Is- land, he on his arrival offered Responsible Government to the Colony; but the Assembly lefused to accept of the terms whicli he proposed, thinking the country could not bear the burden, He required that the Civil List be paid, the British Governmeni not offering anything in return. When Governor BannermaD came, he stated that he was sent to renew the offer of Governor Campbell; and that if we wished to havo the advantages of :Sel[ Government, we must pay the Civil List, and provide pensioM for the officers of the Government. When we would agree to do so, he said he was authorized on the part of the Crown lol transfer to us all the right and interests(if the Crown in the Colony, These interests were Crown lands, Fishery Reserves, Arreari of Quit Rents and Forfeitures. We immediately accepted this offer in consideration of the returns the country would draw from these cessions Com. Howe. — Do I understand you to say you bought the rights of the Crown over those lands believing them to be for- feited ? Ml Davies. — I say so. Weclosed thebargain,and this colonj 18 bound to pay the Civil list as long as it is a colony. Now, ibij colony expected something in return; and in the House of As' sembly, I moved that an inquiry be instituted to ascertain wbai amount of Quit rents &c., had been recovered in the Colony,! Upon doing so, it was discovered that no records of Quit ReDli| collected had been preserved. And why not .' No doubt tl persons collecting these rents were quite competent to keei THE LAND COMMISSION. «1 isuch records; but it was not for the interest of thb ^.uprietorn [that thej should he kept. Cora.HoWE.— Why ? Mr Davibb. — First, because the proprietors themselves had paid nothing; and secondly,') acanee it w^s from the leaseholders lod freeholders only they hau been enforced. If the record:* conld ie destroyed, it would leave the under-tenants and freeholders liable to be again prosecuted for the amounts they hud previously paid, before the Crown could proceed j iin8t4he proprietors for forfeiture of their lands for non-payment of the Q,uit Rents, have never heard any other renson assigned. It was apiece jf compiicated villainy; but v.'e rejoice to think the hourof retri- |)UtioQ is at hand. Com. Gb AY.-- Who kept those records? — and had not the people access to them ? IVir DAviE8.~It was as much or more than a civilian dare lo, to walk to )! public office and ask for any public document. Corn. RiTOHi»c. — Were you not aware that the undei-tenants Laid their duii. Rents in the colony, and the tenants of the crown p;i Londori ? v Mr Davies. — I am aware, my Lord, of the law which allowed hroprietors the privilege of paying their ijuit Rents either in this Island or at London ; but lam not aware of any law which com- pelled the under-tenants to pay arrears of Quit Rents due by Ihein personally. The House of Assembly applied to Uis Ex- cellency Governor Bannerman, to ascertain what amounts were Collected at the Colonial Office, and the reply wiis that it did not kppear anything had been paid. Com. Gray. — There must have been records kept in the teland, though none are now to be lonnd. Mr Dav*iks. — Governor Bannerman, in a reply to an address Presented to him by the House of Assembly on this question, laid there were none. Governor Ready's Administration say E3900 were collected. From explanations already made, it lUst appear that the tenants and freeholders are free from liabil- ities of Q,nit Rents up to that time. It has been a dodge of pol- ticians to shew that the lands were not liable to forfeiture for Ion-payment of Q,nit Rents. There is a despatch, dated, about 1816, 1 think, which states that His Majesty had released the iroprietors from the conditions of settlement; but that release ky no means applies to the releasing of lands from forfeiture for |on-paynieni of Quit Rents. This Despatch, I have been given understand by a member of the late Government, has not lean fully copied into the Royal Gazette; that the pari which lates that the proprietors' lands were liable to forfeiture for Ion-payment of Quit Rents, has been left out. We consider lat whatever r^ght the Crown had then , we have the right of tercising now. Governor Bannerman took steps to see that lie rights of the Crown were carried out respecting the Fishery Reserves. The proprietors have no reason to ex|.iect lenity from bis Colbny. I conceive that this Honorable Court is appointed ly the Crown to settle these recommendations preferred in the se Despatch of February, 1851, which called the attention of ■^ T^ 62 THE LAND COMMISSION. . ^• ri ill 'I; i !l II: 'liii ,.ii I i I': 5i:! th« Governor to the neceaaity of aettling the laaded tenorei at that particular time, when the rights of the Crown were aboot to be ceded to the Colony. If he neglected to do so, that is no faalt of ours . / claim, on the pari of the public, all thote rights which were transferred by the Crown at that time, with all the for- feited lands. If any injustice is committed against the proprietors in their exaction, they should look to the Crown for redress. The Crown rights were conveyed to as, for what we have paid and are in future bound to pay. Nor need proprietors expect any lenity because a grantee's father may have been in the army, — as that of itself was sufRcient honor. There are hundreds of men who have fought as valiantly as some of them ever did, who are now serfs to these men. I would pay every respect to men who have obtained their lands fairly; bat not one-third of the original grantees now hold land in the Colony. — They are held by Jewish speculators and land-jobbers. Why, I ask, shoald lenity be shown men who have stepped in to deprive thg people of their rights ? No decision, I consider, can be given in this matter without investigating the titles of claimants, — nothing short of this will give satisfaction. Public sentiment is aroused; j and the intelligence of the community is rising so fast, and hai already progressed so far, that the people will not submit until a | decision on this point proceed from this honorable Board. I may say I did not expect that I, a» a private individual, could come here to advocate the public rights. The Government has been called upon to furnish you with statements on these ques- tions, but what information have they laid before your Lord- ships? And yet I beliove acts will come to light which will j astoniih you stiil more than what you have already heard — acts of which any persons calling themselves men, might well be ashamed. Again, it is the general opinion in this colony, thai in the courts of law there is no redress for a tenant. If the land- lord commences an ac.ion against a tenant, there are so maujj lawyers in Charlottetown who are agents, more or less under th« induence of the proprietors — Mr Hensley excepted, and there are few others to whom I would trust my case — that there are few j in whom a tenant can place dependence. Com. Howe. — Do I understand you to say a tenant in thiij country has no chance to obtain justice in a Court of law, onion to the influence of proprietors ? Mr Davies. — Such is the general opinion of the country. Com. Gray. — Juries would not be influenced. Mr Davies — It is done by evasion. Com. Gray. — The proprietors out-manoeuvre them, I sappouj Mr Davies. — The next point to which I would direct the at-' tention of your Lordships, is. concerning the expenditure o(i| money by proprietors in opening up roads, I would not sajl that Mr, now Sir S., Cunard, would knowingly make an untroei statement. He might be led to do so, however, upon the repr^| sentations of an agent. Be this as it may, he »tated before i| Committee of the Imperial Parliament that roads were opeoedl ap in this Colony at the expense of the proprietors. When ill became known he had made that statement, a Committee of thef Houje of Assembly was appointed to inquire into its correctneN^ iiiii THE LAND COMMISSION. m |nd the resnlt of that inquiry was, that it was ascertained not one irtbing was paid towards this object up to the time Cunard made liat statement. In regard to this matter, proprietors have evaded lie law. Since that statement was made by Mr Cunard, a law hai Ben placed upon our Statute Book, which compels proprietors to intribute towards opening public roads where they have a ten- incy to improve their estates. Under this law the Great Western toad was opened up through bis estate, which enhanced its ilae immensely. His assessment for that road amounted to ;1600.'^ When the Government called upon the agent for its lyment, he was put off. Then the collection of his assessment iras put into the hands of the Attorney General. The case was fought on, but, lo! there had been some illegality in the pro- B83 — some informality was pleaded, and the case was quashed* it the next session of ihe Legislature the subject was again in* loduced, and the House ordered the action to be commenced new. This time the Solicitor General, Mr Peters, obtained kave to plead against the Crown; again the, case was set aside, Hd not one farthing ever paid. In the same way Lord Selkirk iroided the payment of JE500, and the people have been taxed pay these sums Concerning the Land Purchase Bill, 1 re- lark, the lands bought under it were not purchased according to Iw. The majority in the Legislature at that period, understood ^at they were not to be bought till the titles were investigated; It such was not attended to. That imprudent act brought ftwn the Coles Adninistration of that day, and very justly too, it its members had violated their pledges to the people and the irchase Bill. With respect to the class of emigrants brought bre by the proprietors, I may say yon will scarcely find an in- illigent man among them. They have imported the most igno- Int men from England the nation could p'oduce. I knew 300 be brought here from Britain, on one occasion, of whom only Icould write. These poor, ignorant people, too, before they ft Home, thought this was a very fine country. Tbey had kard the winters were clear and frosty, but very pleasant, laughter.) As regards the price of lands, I think the terms ^on which the Government purchased the Selkirk estate, are »d, because by them they are enabled to sell the land at reas- lable rates. I give the Government credit for anything to liich it ii? entitled. To Col. Gray especially, I think a great is due. In my opinion the lands of this Island are not irth the prices stated by several delegates. Our lands are worth more than the lands in the vicinity of Shediac and hcagne, in New Brunswick — 23. 6d. an acre that currency; unimproved lands are not worth more than what the Gov- iment paid for Belfast Estate, assuming the titles to be valid; 1 it appears the rentals collected do not represent a sum the |>ital of which would be larger than the value of the land I re assumed. Ir D&vm having been thanked by the Commissioners for his Idress, offered to give any farther explanation, or to answer lestions proposed by the Counsels but none were asked. - ''he Court then adjourned at 6^ o'clock. I ' II m I I I' '! ,1 ( l! .' 1 i u THE LAND COMMISSION. Thursday, Sept. 1*3, 1860. This moriiine ifier a few remarks wcro madp rpspecting! the mode of pneedure the C<»»)ri woulil adept dial day — Com. Grav 8'>id : Wo would really like lo hear the I opinions of the wcirkinc men ihenistelven. We wifh to heat from the men to wiioin- ihe difficiiliics i»i the proprietory «ys. i tern Come home, tho' they muy not be able to express them- 1 selves as fluently as men accijs>toin<>d to take part in publicj transactions Conn. HiENSLEY ihen read over thf' names of several dele-j g.ate8 from differen*" Townships Fioin Lot 2 were presenij Messrs. Wm. Haywood, John White and Floi'ence McArihy, From Township No. 3. Messrs. Thomas Ilockin, .lohnl McKay and Martin Foly. From Lots 4 ainJ 5. Robert Gordon, Esq., Messrs. A. Mat- thews and John Kieff; and from a different section of Lot5'| Mr. J. Clark. , , From Lwt 7, Messrs. .Slrana Hart and James Rarnsay, From Lot 10, Mr. Robert Vincent. From Lots 12 and 13. Messrs. Thomas Gorman, Wiliiuml Greeg and William Ramsay. From Lot 14, Messrs M. MeKumon, I). Mclnnis anill F. Perry. From Lot 16, Messrs. A. Fraser. A R:iinaay. T liKughf Ian, J. Ratchford, J .-irsneaux and M. Gallant. Coun. Hensley next read a mem(»rial from L'li 2, in uiiicfj was stated among other things thai the peopie drsired thej Royal Commissioners thoroitohly lo irivestiyate \Un titles of| proprietors who claimed their Townsiiip. The C(mnsel next read u mentorial ttom the iiiiKibii'antsoll Lot 3, in which i( wns stated that Mie Lot originally wajl granted away by the Imperictl Government to one (/haiincej Townsend, in 1769, and tl>at his Grant becaim^ extinct wjtl himself. The Lot was occupied 46 years afterwards b| French settlers, till it was assiuned bv Mr. John Hill, a tradef on Lot 5. Mr. Hill proceeding to Newtoundland, plotted i off and sold it at auction, from jClO to £14. to diilereni indil viduals. Some of these qnesiioning his title, refused to pal him till he produ'^ed it. Returning to the- Island, he m the late Mr. Binns to make him out one. This satisfied soratl of his purchasers, wlio visited the Island 18 years afterwardif These men exacted rem of the French, who choose to lea«l the land rather than submit (<> pay rent. Mr. Joseph Aheii|| was the next occupant upon the Lot, settling upon one oftbi farms vacated by the Frencii. He endured many hardships The early settlers suffered very great privations. Someo the purchasers of Joliii Hill sircceeded in duping the actoij settlers into the paymeni of rent, by telling them they ^oi'^ be very easy with them, and take a pair of socks or a busbi TBS LAND COMMISSION. 65 >t drain in consideration of their rents; thus the simple ten- int lias been led to pay a high rent. The people believe the kriffinal Grant became extinct in the Grantee. False claims iave been put in for the Township, and the Crown neglect- In^ iu resume this Lot, much o\ it has been sold at Sheriff's kale. False ci.'^iiViaots frequently annoy the occupants of jither portions of the L<>: by writing to them, and thus puttiog: [hem to much inconvenience and expense. By putting off luiis they worry them in some cases into a compliance. It m requested that the Royal Commissioners would order [he Esohoat of the Township; and that the leaseholds be con- reried into freeholds on the same terms as the Selkirk estate ra-4 purchased, with time to pay; and that the squatters be Secured in their possessions at the same r?.te. (Joun. Hensley then read the resolutions which were pass- ed at the meeting held in the Temperance Hall, Cascumpec. [n one of these mention was made of the backward condition if that locality on account of the action taken by the proprie- lor respecting the fishery reserves. — Mr. Hensley also read memorial Irom iiot 7. At the first settlement of this Town- ship, it wns owned by a Mr. Montgomery, an absentee land- lord. Uis agent was Mr. John Stewart. The proprietor Lid his interest in the Lot for £1Q or £15. It is now claim- Id by Robert B. Stewart. The memorialists complain that the best parts of the Township, which would greatly contri- bute to the benefit of the settlers' if it were let to them, is re- erved by the claimant, the validity of whose title they very luch question. Tenants would be willing to pay five shil- lings and six pence an acre for the fee simple of tlieir proper- ties, if time were given to raise the purchase money. Resolutions passed at the meetings held on Lots 12 and 13 rere then read by the Counsel. In common with others, Ihey expressed the opinion that neither peace nor prosperity Vould reign in this Island until that intolerable grievance, the rental system, he abolished. They stated that claimants |f the lands on these Lota had no grants ot them on record, jarge amounts of rente were due, though some tenants had Itaid as much as i*200. On these grounds they thought they iughtti) receive their farnts without paying purchase money, jo other resolutions or memorials were lead at that time. Coun. Hknsley qusstioiifl Mr. William Haywood. — How jtiany years liavn vdo resided e ? About j£25 a hundred acres. There ii large black spruce swamps in the tear of my farm. Mr Hunt to Mr Foly. — Upon what section of Lor 3 doji| live? Upon the 4th, I think. Do yoa say there are lar;1 ■wamps extending to the western road? I said they were: the rear of my farm. Coun. Palmer crosis-ezamioes Mr Foly. — I think you wf . once a leaseholder on Lot 29, were yoa not ? Yes. You r4 it? Yes. How much land did yoa own? 132 acres, rent was Is an acre. How much did yon get for your propeni I do not recollect. Yoa cannot help rememberiog how tnoti THE LAND COMMISSION. Ti }| ui? I thinit it WH* uhc ^t, seeking a remission of back rents, for the people whom spresent are men who pay their rents. |m. Gray. — Are there any freeholders on the Lots ? G. — I think there is not one. All, 1 believe, are lease- brs, and hard working industrious men. im. Howe. — What are the terms of their leases ? G.— They are generally for 999 years, and at Is per acre 1 1-9 added. ). Gray. — What is the value of lands in that locality ? G. — The value depends entirely upon circumstances. 18 sometimes locate themselves at the heads of rivers, with tpectetion that a settlement will be formed in the course of years. When this occurs, the value of the land in such becomes enhanced. Where a man is compelled to go into the woods I think he earns his land if he pays for it |>er hundred acres. 1. Gray.— You do not think the proprietor should have line pat upon these places by the settlers ? i I ill ' ' T' II ' ■> ml 72 THE LAND COMMISSION. Mr G. — By no means. Con). Howe — Has the proprietor there opened np any ro^J for »he btMwfit of the tenHOtry « Mr G. — VVh«n vir Peters was agent he opened ap a roaf'^ under the Compensation Act from the Dock Settle-iient to \\\\\'M River; but it was so narrow that two carriages could not pai?| each other on it. ' Com. HowK. — Is that all you know they did tawards it| proving thut part of the country ? iVtr G. — I >vouid nut do the proprietors an injuntice; I amnti aware of any more Com. Howe. — Respecting the value of wild front lands, vvbi| price would you net upi n them ? Mr (J — About £25 per hundred acres, — If your Eicellenciij desire I may now afford you some information concerning aj cul'ural UitRculties which have arisen through the mode of diJ posing oir'Mie Fi8h»?ry Reservej. Com. Gray. — We shall be glad to hear them. Mr G. — We came from a valuable Lot — fron. a Townsbij which if your Excellencies saw, I think you would say iij beautiful ad it came from the hands of its Creator, thou|| through the influetice of the proprietor, it has been kept in unimproved Htato. After the elaborate statomeu'ts made Messrs. Warburton, Conroy and Davifs, it v/ill be unneces^l for me to go over any of the ground npon which they enlerJ By one of th^se gentlemen (he name of John Hill, Esq., 4 mentioned. That irontleman came to Cascumpec from EnglJ about the f ..e Governor Smith was appointed to this Colc|^ Upon hid arrival, he claimed all the coast adjacent to ! aioudd the harbor of Caacumpec, including l<<*ts 4, 5 and 6| his propertv. He was on the Inland when Townships 15 1 55 vver.i escheated, and with others busied himself in obtai[i| signatures to a petition addressed to the King praying fori Governor's removal. From 1817 to 1840 he only granted f leaseu and one minute of an agreement for a Iea8e^ There «J few settlers on the Lot at that tiiite. After being in the coiin some year!?, IMr Hill returned to England, and while there! published a pamphlet in which he held out flattering inutT menta to persuade persona to emigrate to Cascumpec. and other means same were induced to come from Bcotlaniii whoii) a few remained, and others left in disgust at the roJ filmeiit of the promises which he made to them, and becaui<| refused to give them titles to their lands. From all the at mation I can g'ean, I understand tht;re was only one man m on tb«» we^i end of l>ot 4 in 1S.3S ; and at the same period t» were on.y 11 householders on the eastern portion of the'lV| bhip. Com. i, of Digby, Nov:i Scotiil applied to .VIr Samuel Hill, son of John Hill, Esq , who was theil agentfor his fatn«r, as Mr Cruswell had been some years previonJ ly, for pertxiission to erect a fi.shing establishment upon a sandtjaoi ai the haroor of Cascuifipec, but he received a positive refusaij Being uuwiUing to abandon thg enterprize, Mr K.uggle3 wetitlJ .■I more inland situation, but the place was so inconvenient, thri his fishery proved a failure. Com. Howe. — Mr Cunard has not denied this privilege. Mr G. — I think he has. f^urties takhig leases from him Jil Cascumpec Harbor, wore nsked to bind themselves to 8ucl| strange conditions as tiie^e. That if the Government shou'if take the land for the Fishery floserve.s, they shoald still bi bound to pay Cunard the rent agreed upoi. ia the lease for tin ti full term — 20 years. These cojiditions were written on M back of Mr Rogers' lease, hut were not signed by him. Yoii| Excellencies, this is too ridiculous to be treated seriously. I| remind.^ me of a poor lovesick swain, who says to his lovt] '• My dear, I hwar you are about to be ta'veri from me, that yor' rightful owner i-" coming; you know how many happy days w have spent together, and how undisturbed oui )ears have beet 1 1 THE LAND COMMISSION. 76 d the leaanU' [know yoa are not mine, but I cannot give yea op; I will par- te yoa ■till." [Laughter] Com. Gray. — It wonid be well to aee Mr De Blois go throagh bat operation. [Laughter.] Mr G. — 1 believe to the mind of Mr De Blois himielf that jnse is obnozioua. Mr Db B.— I informed him that thi« question would come up iain, but that I believed the proprietor had the right to it; and expressed his willingness to take the lease upon these terms. Com- Gray. — How much was leased ? I Mr Db B. — 1^ acres, 4 chains fronting on the shore. [Mr G.— I wish to draw the attention of your Excellencies to Map to show you the situation of this place. From that larf (Mr G. pointing to its position on the Map) to Cascum- Ic Point, a distance of over 1} miles, there are only 4 families. )W a high Authority has said the earth was made to be in- (bited; but Sir Samuel Cnnard, going in opposition to this thority, says it shall not all be inhabited if I can prevent it. would not allow us the sweet privilege of raising a platform, placing HOUO children upon it to sing the National Anthem, can be done elsewhere. The proprietors are too well ^ased with the raaaic of the owls, toads and frogs to allow us [witucs? ^nch comely scenes, [r D« B. — This piece of ground is reserved by Cuoard- He I a hcase upon it, and tenants pay their rent there tu his sub- sn'. who occupies this portion of land, ^ilr G. — If it had been let even in small leaseholds, where we with difficulty now count half a dozen of dwellings, there lid be in all probability a town. Jem. Gray.— If Cunard had been offered its value, would [not have sold it ? Mr De B. — We would sell the whole block. Mr G.— Why not let it like the other lands? Ir De B. — Captain Rider his 6 acres, and his lea?e is to bt ^ewed. Hr G.— Your Excellencies must ^^eo that tliis dog-in-lhe- iger policy of the proprietor is retarding ihe progress, and Idering the development of the resources of our country. /Om. Howe. — As soon as this question is settled, you will Ike a town there ? Ir G.-Yes. Join. Gray. — We will settlo it for you shortly. Ir G, — It may do very well for old bachelors who never ex- it to be any benelit to thoir country to endeavor to keep a kation of this kind in its present condition, and the country |erally in a backward state; but there is another view to be 80 of the subject. The proprietory system ha-i sown the seeds liacontent in many families. Young men have seen and felt difBcolties under which their fathers have toiled; and these |lg8 combined have impressed thoir minds unnaturally respect- tbeir country. What made Sparta great ? What has made United States great ? Attachment to country. In many lances our daughters may cleave to their father's house, but i vrw^' 76 THE LAND COMMISSION. 4 ,,,(» rj P. II i; ili'' lit , ■ i \v ! I (I I III) ^ II ! I our sons have become wanderers from home, tOHsed hither and thither over the surrace of the earth like the thistle down in autumn. Com. RiTCHiB. — Respecting this place called Caacnmpec Point, are there not other places in that neighborhood where fishing can be carried on as well as there ? Mr G.— It is nearest the harbor, and most convenient on that account. Com. Ho.wE. — Why do the Americi^ns come in such large numbers, and froin so great a distance to catch (ish around the Island, and the people themselves on the spot do not catch themr Mr G. — It is owing to the unnatural impression made upon the minds of our young men, which I have already mentioned, and to the prohibitions to open trade. The leases given for Caacumpec Point, I have been informed, are only for 10 yean, and few .iien would think of complying with such terms. Com. Howe. — The people of Lunenburgh, N. S., had no fishing grounds, no capital, yet they have done well. Mr G. — Gentlemen in Charlottetown who have the capital Jack an enterprising spirit. Com. Gray. — Venice was built by people who first went fishing in boats, and Lunenburgh in Nova Scotia has arisen in a similar manner. Is there anything in the condition of society here which prevents yon from doing as others have done .' Mr G. — I think so. This place has too few settlers. I once asked a gentleman a similar question, and he replied by saying, •' You have not men enough; and you cannot benefit a country I without men" To give you another instance, a .Mr Foster from Rhode Island sought to obtain fishing privileges in the harbor of Cascunipec, and was refused. He applied to Mr I Samuel Hill for the island in the harbor, called Savage Island. During hia stay Mr Hill extended to him the rites of hospitality. I Before retiring to rest, Mr Foster inquired how he could nriost conveniently get to Port Hill. My farmer, replied Mr Hill, will leave for that place to-morrow morning at daylight. If you rise early that will be a good opportunity for you; but if you neglect to embrace it, you nriay be detained until ChristmaSjjas the frost is about to set in. This was the only answer he received to his application for a fishing privilege. That gentleman was pre- pared to invest all his capital in that enterprise. He settled I afterwards at New Castle, N. B. The tenants of Sir Samuel Cunard find great fault with him for scaling up the fishery reserves. Mr De B. — Within half a mile of the harbor we sell land at| a place called the Cross Roads, for 999 years, at 208 an acre. Mr G.— May I ask Mr De Blois, why a little town is rising al| the Crosis Roads, and none at the harbor ? Mr De 8. — Because we can give land there on better terms, Mr G. — Mr De Blois hos given the true reason. Coun. Henbjley to Mr .Keiff. — You have heard what Mr| Gordon has advanced, Mr Keiff; do you agree with his state- ments ? Q,uite so. Do you wish to state anything in addition ' I have nothing further to communicate. THE LAND COMMISSION. 77 better terms, Conn. HbnsLiBt to Mr Matthews. — Do you wish to make any observations ? I thiiik Mr Gordon's statements !>qvo em- braced all the points necessary for us to mention. I may make a few remarks about the practical evils of the permit system. I think there is a special clause in the leases which gives a license to go and cut timber and haul it through my crop, for instance, by paying damages. I believe il is never acted upon, still there is the power. I own a piece of land off which I lost the timber through a permit given by Mr Yeo. This occurred about three years ago. Com. Ritchie. — Did yon examine his permit to see whether the timber was to be cut on vacant or leased land .' Mr M. — I think not; I was under the impression that the roan who fjot the permit could cut on my land Com. Ritchie. — How much was removed? Mr M — I had no means of ascertaining the exact amount; it was about 30 tons of birch timber. I wa^^ not aware of its being cat until it was on the landing. Mr. John Clark, from Lot 5, makes a few statements, — I aiD a tenant on Township No. 5. The tenanis on that Lot complain of the rent paying system, and think liieyare bound asnoBiitish subjects ought to be bound. Generally speaking the people are not in arrears. They desire to become free- holders,, it ihev fan obtain their properties at reasonable rates and gel time to pay. I purchased a leasehold property on that Lot last winter. There was a reserve in the lease, however, and I kept back £'60 of the purchase money until it was ta^en off. Even the cutting of cordwood was reserved. Com. Howe. — Assuming the titles to be good, and you do not appear to dispute thetn, what would be a fair rate to give I for the land ? Mr. C. — Wilderness land, I think, should not exceed 58. an acre. Coun. Palmer cross-examined Mr. C— Yon once resided Ion Lot 48; had'you a leasehold oi a fref^hold ? A freehold. And you sold out and became a tenant under this terrible sys- tem? Was the farm improved which you purchased ' Yes: it had lOO acres of clear land. What price did you pay for lit? About £300 for 150 acres. Com. Gray. — You feel as independent now as you did be- I fore ' Mr. C. — I can scarcely say that. I am in a position, how- lever, where I think I can do as well. Com. Gk«y. — What did you get for the farm you sold? Mr. C — jCGOO. Cora. Howe. — What became ot the man who lived on ths [farm you purchased ? '" => Mr. C — To answer that question wimUl dfiiiiii you some Itime, The man who cleared it waa n l^'renchman who got jinio arrears of rent The Cartn was taken off his hands by janoihev man who t-ame good for the rent. 78 THE LAND C0HMI8SI0N. >ii\ ^•isr ilfc i .''I Couo. HiNSLEV. — Had you arrears to pay? Mr. C— Aboui £30. . ; Com. Ritchie.— Suppose the titles good, between mao and man, what would you think a fair price to pay for the fee simple of your farm! Mr. 0.— About 10s. an acre. Oom. Ritchie. — You see the proprietor would loose bj that; when he receives Is per acre rent. Several other questions were proposed to Mr. Clark and answered by him. Mr. DeBlois wished to correct a statement made by Mr. Clark, respecting the man who cleared his farm. The truth was thai when the Frenchman got behind with his rent, the agent said to him, if it be for your advantage to give up a part of your farm, do so ; the man consented, and a part of it was taken off his hands. Still he could nut pay any rent for some years. Afterwards an offer was made to him for his farm, and he disposed of it. Coun. Thompson! — That is what you did, not what you might have done. Cora. Gray. — And you maintain, Mr. Thompson, that the I existence of such a right constitutes a wrong. If the French* man had fallen into the hands of an agent less honorable than | Mr. DeBlois he might have farad differently. Coun. Hknslet (o Mr. Strang Hart. — You live on Loll 7, Mr. Hart? Yes. Have you a lease? Only an agree- ment. I live on one of the boundaries of the Lot, and have I been put in possession with the promise of a lease. In yout memorial you stated that you are bound down so strictly that the privileges which would render you prosperous and happ; are withheld; what are some of these reservations'? Such as you heard in the lease which was read yesterday. A case occurred on the Lot of a man who got possession, and held it for along time. The proprietor brought him to Court several times; and finally the case was withdrawn. The claimant could tiot evidently dispossess him, therefore it was inferred that Mr. Stewart had no legal claim to the property. Mr. Hart further slated that as there were no harbours on that coast, the land was of less value on that account. Land had been sellinij alonjj the sea-board for £15 per hundred acres. The people desired an investigation of the titles. Upon being asked what titles, Mr. Hart replied, the original grants. If these are proved valid, the people will make an effort to become freeholdere The front lands were prettyj much taken up. Com. Gray. — Mr. Stewart is recognised as the proprietotj ' there according to your statement. Mr. Hart. — Upon that Township 5000 acres are raarkedl on the map a-? having no proprietor At the prices fixed upoD for back lands by Mr. Stewfjrt — £A0 or £50 per hundred THE LAND COMMI88IOK. 7t aeres— tiie people are unable to purchasf. We would be wiU ling, however, to give 5b. 6d. an acre, having time to pay. The timber haa been culled off the land, and the »aw> with Ithem. Hon Col. Gray. — I maintain that Mr. Robert Bruce iStewart, being a proprietor of large tiacts of hnd, ought to ibe here. Coun. Halliburton. — We have every desire to see the linvestigation proceed. Coun. Hknslkv. — Has Mr. Stewart laid out much money Ion the Lot ? Mr. Ramsay. — None. 1 think. Cornelius Hovvat, M. P P.. befoie the Court — Your Ex- |cellen<^ies, as a delegate I represent Lots 19,26,27,^8 and 29. ■The other delegates who were appointed wiih myself are iMeesrs. Thomas Sims, James Howatt, William Moore, |Oharles McQuarrie, James R Watt and Malcolm McFarlane. The delegates from Lois 27 and 28 are Messrs. William iGilleapie, D^vid McFarlane and John Crocket. [It was here Isuggested by Com. Howe, that if there was nothi^ig new in Ithe raemnriils presented by them, that they be filed without inf? readjust then.] Mi. Howat proceeds: To commence Iwiih Lot iij, I may remark, that 1 do not live or, that Town- but I urged the people there to call a meetin!:> and meeting ana ap- f«- 80 THE LAND COMMISSION. !'•' ; !• m point delegates to lay tlieir grievancoB befo this Court. On this Lot the people art larsely^'in arrears oi rent ; and froai what [ can !earn, many have been dispo^se^Aed on this ac- coant, and others threatened. Court. Palmer — Give the names. Mr. Sims then nrtentiDoed these names — William Bowlin, Michael McDonald, John Dunn, Archibald Taylor, &c., and stated that some were in arrears to the amount of JCIOO, and that i^4U and £50 of arrears uf rent were comiiHtn. If some- thing was not done soon, he thought many wuu'd be dispos- sessed. The proprietor wa'« Andrevv Todd, and the agent William P'organ. The people had nothing particular to saj against either of them. Mr. HowAT continues — The soil is inferior, and from this cause has arisen their inability to pay rent. They are anx- ious to become freeholders, and would make any sacrifice to| secure the fee simple of their farms. It was remarked yes- terday that the tenants of the Crown were relieved from the| conditions of settlement contained in the orifrinal grants; and in reference to the back rents I think there should he some mitigation to the under tenants. If the favor was granted in the one case, why refuse it in the other. For pursuing such a course, I think a precedent iiaa been established in Canada. In refeience to the titles fur Lot 19, there is some di-ssniisfaction among the people. The |)reseiit heir of the Township is Mr. Todd, who, I understand, holds it from iiis uncle. Asa member of the Legislature I have a right to nr^je upon your honors the fact that this is not a question between the people | and the proprietors, but between the GovernoiiMit and the pro- prietors. If those proprietors who have no just claitn receive! a compensation for lands which they claim, and ^or which they have received rent, the Government will be d Gray. — And the place of that link was supplied! by'a bottle of rum. Mr llowATT continues. — Your Excellencies, I would makel one observation upon a remark which fell from Mr Howe. Hiil Excellency wondered men could have been found so unintelli.1 gent as to be influeaced by mm; but you cannot jndge of thoul men, by tbe class now before your Excellencies. And there ii] another consideration: These men who came to them as propri- etors had at least the appearance of gentlemen, and the peopl«| could scarcely doubt their veracityr— especially as it was conJ raon in those days to take almost everything for granted. The| occurrences of later years have caused people to doubt. Sutpi. cions erose from their allowing men to remain upon tbe Lot I without making them pay rent. The people reasoned thus— irl tbe proprietor can enfotce the payment of rent from obe, whj I not from all? I reside upon Lot 28. I have been given to ud- derstand that it formerly belonged to a branch of the Holland I family, and that one-half of the Township has since fallen into tbe hands of Mr Calbeck. His half was obtained by paying the qoit rents of the whole Township. The Western moiety of tb(| Lot was transferred to a third party. Now, why should one- half of the Township be got for 29. 6d. per hundred acres, if | worth a larger sum? IVIr E. H. Holland. — I think ihey paid in addition ;£200| sterling. Mr Lord (from Tryon). — When (jovernor Smith demanded I quit rents, and the sheriff came and pounced upon me and othere, | the proprietor gave one half of ths Township to defray the ei* peases of the other half. My 100 acres cost me j£2 or j£3; and I ■everal of us were sued for it. Becaase the half Lot was sold, l:i TUS LAHD COHHISSIOM, 89 3'- addition £200 e were proiuised eara free ; bnt the proprietors have always ted unjuitly. Mr HowATT. — I have mentioned that circamtlance to show ar Excellencies the valae of land at that period. Com. Gray. — At thai period there must have been large mi dae for quit rents. Mr HowATT. — ^To show the evil working of the system, I nay mention a circumstance which happened in Lot 28. A an purchased 100 acres from Dunscomb, who became propri- or of a part of the Township; and, after his doing so, Duns- rob made him pay Is. 4d. an ucre rent. Com. Gray. — Will you state what yon think to be the actual iloe of wilderness land on that Towuship? Mr HowATT. — I could not say. Com. Howe. — As an upright man, looking at th» rights of all larties, and considering that the property has fanen into the _nda of person Avho depend upon the returns from it for a live- hood, — and assuming it to be for the good of this country that )at property be taken from them in some way, what ought the iccopants of the lands to pay for their holdings? — What would e fair terms of compromise ? Mr HowATT. — I think it is a delicate question; I cannot say gt now; I may answer your question again. Com. HowB.— ^What rent do you pay for your land? Mr HowATT. — I pay 6d an acre Halifax currency. The lase was issued at an early date. Com. Ritchie. — Then your lease is more valuable than oar neighbor's, which is at Is, — that is, supposing the two rms to be equally good. I take it for granted, then, that v :tr [eighbor ought not to pay as much for the fee simple of his m.'i byou would for yours; for the interest of the proprietor in -.be [ne farm is double what it is in the other. If, therefore, tho indlotd be compelled to sell, we must fix the price at one-half MS for the man who pays Is. an lays only 6d. an acre. Are there Dan Is. on the Township? Mr How ATT — I am not aware. MrE. H. Holland. — Would >• bject to paying [ere for the fee simple of your fat. , Mr Howatl? Mr H. — I would, certainly. That is just what it is at present [nd I do not desire a change, unless it is lor the betrer. Were [paying Is. an acre rent, I would not object to pay lOs. for the pe simple. Cmo. Gray. — In reference to the Selkirk estate, it has been krchased out and out. The landlor \ has got clear of it all, he bad land as well as the good. If you had the privilege now 'parchasiog from the landlords, do yon think it would be right leave on their hands all the lands whi-h are unproductive, br which they must pay quit rents, and keep an agent to collect aall sums to be paid in a period extending from 10 to 20 years? j)o you not think there would be a great dilTerence with thd Iroprietor in selling out the whole of a Township at once, and filing it out piece-meal? acre than for the man who any leases at a lower rate 10s. an ..^. ^, \V>, IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 !M I.I ■dai2.8 £f us £ |i£ 12.0 ■ ■ i 1.25 U 11.6 / 0/ ^\ '^/ Photograiiiic Sciences Corporalion 23 WBT MAIN STMfT WIBSTM,N.Y. 14SM (n6)t73-4SC; ■is i- A till ti \ : I ^ r Wl a THE LAND COMMISSION. Mr H.— 1 admit there n a diffSerence. Mr i^iMs propoaed a qac«tioo to the Coart respecting the actioD agents might tak^ bolweea the present time and the ttmo the ttward of the Coiomissionera wou'd be given. Conn. Palmeh thought tenants ought to make some exertion in the mean time to pay ap their renti. The Commissioners said the arrears ought to stand antU their decision was given. Mr W. H. Pope stated that as 8 or 10 iodividnels on Lot 29 had not attorned, he woald insisl opoo them making an arrange, ment upon the same terms as otrers had done ; and that he woald have no objections against taking bonds from the tenantt i to be paid subsequently, however, to the awariof the Commii. flioo. Com. Gra,y remarked that supposing the Commission did] com« to a conclusion thit arrears were to ti^ given up, they couM easily make void the instrument by which arrears are to be paid. >^ Conn. Halibvrton thought, considering the forbearance proprietors had exercised, that the tenants had nothing to fear. Mr Dk Blcis said that it was not hu iaten*''.on to distrain fcr arrears of rent in the meantime, provided the current rent wa« j paid. Several other leraarks were made upon this topic by different parties. Mr James Howatt addresses the Court. — Your Excetlen* cies: This general desire of the tenantry is :o become froehokl- ers. For my own part I feel quite young at the thought of yet becoming a freeholder, onoerning the value of lands owned by the proprietors, I would giv« it the same as what they were worth when covered with woods. That I think is the fair view to take of the question. There is something endearing to the man in the estate upon which he has spent his strength, he nvnst naturally take an interest in it, and become attached to the improvements which from time to time he has pat upon it. If this hon. Commission does not settle this vexed question, I expect that we old men, becominc more and more disheartened, will be dropping into the grave wTth nobody to care for us. My sons have left me, because they had no iadacement to remaia here. When we go to Canada and eleewherOf we see men en- joying the liberty of freemen— that liberty which we have long been denied here. A case was mentioned hern respecting a man who holds a property and pays at the rate of 6d an acre for it. If he purchased, it was thought, he should receive it for a smaller sum than the man who pajs Is. an acre for his land, should be allowed to purchase his; but I wonld reverse that, and give the preference to the man who pays the higher rent. (Laughter.) I would, as a principle of sound logic, ! would take a part of the burden off the man who pay Is., and put it upon the man wtio only pays 6d an acre for bis land. (Laugh* ter ) I conceive that our long standing as tenants should enti* tie us to some indulgence. I have paid £409 in rent for 100 acres of land, and having paid so much rent, I should have.it now without paying anything more. H^ THE LAND COMMISSION. 85 CouD. Palmbr.— It has valoable wator privileges. Mr J. H.— Ah! bat I have to pay £4 a year for the use of {ibat >treaDi ; ao my rent comes to about £10 a year. I wish to liress npon year Excellencies' attention the necessity of liberat- ing saoD fine men as we are. We want to be free, and we roald fight for a>ur freedom, bat we Cannot do that you know vithoat making a distarbance. (Laughter.) There is another krgament to which I would advert. Whatever yru do, make ka free men, fur we never will sit down and consent to pay rent kny Diore. The popular feeling flows in that direction. We ill be free, and any man, who would preach any other gospei Ihin this, would from the North Cape to East Point receive a ' lery cool reception. (Laughter.) And there is another things ' I the price of lands b^ overrated, the boon sought to be coo-' lerred may prove a clog rather than a benefit. On account of ■be fine situations here and there, the value of lands may be lenerally overrated. Mr Anderson of Bedeque had a property •' fiven to him for going to settle upon it, to induce others to do <• be.'iame. By doing ao he opened a door for others. The va-^ n lie' of Township lands now results from the toil cf the poor I uaiu I would say then, in all justice, that proprietors should ' eceive for their lands, what they were worth in their wilder- : » state. Now they are worth something indeed ; but then len these men took them, they were only a good habitation br foxes. (Laughter.) What would these lands be withoat lur bard labor? And the landlords should have aisisted ia jiaking this country what it is, though it is still in a very back- jrard state on account of the impediments they haye thrown in pe way of the development of its resources. If they roold not spend money in the opening up of roads and the baking of bridges; they should have founded schools in which utraction might have been received; and they might have as- sted much in spreading the Gospel amongst us, fur we need jiinistera badly enough. Bpx their only cry has been "Pay oarrent! pay'your rent!" (Loud laughter.) And if a man feceives a check for money, how they eye him, — yes, they ratch him as closely as a cat watches a mouse till they get it Ctofhim. One of this class sometime ago gathered up all he Bibly could fur land, into his pocket it went, and did not lop till it reached New Zealand This was Mr Morpeth, the gent for Lot 29. Your Honors, I have admired your patience I hearing the grievances of so many hard-faced men as we are. lam sure if your memories are equal to your patience, you will Ve a dreary time of it in makine anything else than a good lb for the tenants. (Laughter.) You are the men. We now interested in your commission. If we ofi^end any of the loprietors or their agents, we are sorry, but cannot help it, for llNpreservation is the first law of nature. (Applause.) 'Mr Watt and Mr MTaklaivb, the deputation from Lot joext appeared before the Court. They stated that in the year p84, the Lot was granted to John Stewart, of Ha mpstead, Mid- ex, England, and Peter Gordon.of Saint Vincent, in the West met; and was subsequently divided by the Governor and Conn) > 7 -„..,...,,.. H^niW* Vi: f V- *i WT] »»" 86 THE LAND COMMISSION. i) ■■!' I. i: '< !! I iil: m ni ill iii eil of this Island, who awarded to the said John Stewart the sonth. ern moiety of the Lot. This J. Stewart appointed the late John Stewart, of Moant Stewart, Prince Edward Island his agent, Jo April, 1793,who was at that tiro.i)in England; and on his retnrniofj to the Island received from the said John Stewcrt, a Power ofl Attorney to lease the said land. This agent granted three leaseaiil the name of John Stewart, of Hampstead, Middlesex, in the yeari 1801; and in 1802: Henry Stewart, nephew of the former JohDl Stewart, became possessor of the said half Lot, by beii^ Heir. I at-law. This Henrv Stewart then rc-appointed the said Captaii] John Stewart, of Mount Stewart, his agent, by nower of at.l torney, to act for him as he had acted for his ancle, John Ste.| wart. The said Hunry Stewart was ihe last recorded possossotl of the land. Nothing appears to have been done with thiil southern half of the Lot until 1828, when the said agent, Captaiil John Stewart, began to deed the land in his own name*; and ijl the year 1833, the said Captain John Stewart willed to Narjl Rain all his land in Lot 26, with description, limit or boundary,! On this account the tenants on this half of the Lot are of thcl opinion that the present Claimant has no power to give a bona fide title or deed, should they wish to purchase their farini,! They therefore pray that tho said land be cedud to the locill Govfrnment. They further stated, that many persons dnr-[ ing the time of the American Revolution, who proved true ti| their country and king, forfeited their lands; and that several i these were encouraged by Governor Patterson to settle in Bed».| que. In 1783 some of them came, and when they saw thel place they were pleased with its appearance. Governor PatI terson advised them to bring their families from Shelbnrne, aodi settle down in Bedeque. They did so; and at that period thenl was not an individual within many miles of them. Shortly aftttl they had settled, Puter Gordori came and caused them to altuni to him as their landlord, and these people have been tenants tJ the present day, never having an opportunity to become free-l holders. Some of them have paid as much ^s £500 in rent. Com. Howe. — Were there loyalists' lands in Peter Gordon'i| estate? Deleuatcs. — Yes. ' C«m. Howe. — What became of them, when the loyaliitij were deprived of their possession? D. — They obtained grants of the rear lands; but their home-l steads and old farms were all upon leased land. For the laul 60 years no leases have been given upon the Lot, with the ei-l ception of a few granted to persons who held minutes. Sine this Commission has arrived tho acting agent, Mr Burke, bu| obtained considerable amounts of rent. The people have be come uneasy, fur he haH demanded of them to take minuteil of agreements at Is 6d. an aero. Ho indaced persons to settle! on the Lot two ybars agu. Then he said he had no authority tel grant leases, but he promised that when he obtained the powet| he would give them leases at Is. an acre. Now be threaten to eject them unless they take minntes of agreement at tin terras he dictates. The people cannot ascertain whether he ii| Authorized to receive rents or not. THE LAND COMMISSION. 87 Com. Howe. — Suppose a man comes from Fngland, and i^g to the people, 1 am your landlord or agent, aa I he case lay be, does be not produce some document to show that he is Bch? DiLBOATBs. — Burke hns aesumed the power without pro- laoing any authority. The tenants are all apprehenmive that te present claimants are not the rightful owners. Com. Howe — What do they wish to pay for the purchase of lieir lands? D. — Thn same as is paid for lands in Now Brunswick. > Mr Holland asks the deputation if they know what Mr ^oderson paid for his land vir Andbrson — £100. Mr Holland — At the meeting to which these gentlemen ^feired, there were not more than 24 persons present, of whom nly three were tenants. Another meeting was called which I Igo attended. At it iliere were a few more— say 30 or 35 in- ividnals; still only 5 of these were tenants from rhe eastern loiety of Lot 26, and very few of Gordon's tenants were pre- Int. Those who took the principal part in. the proceedings en- ^avored to urge the people to lay their grioTances before this tart, but no person seemed to have any. This is the way, ^ar Excellencies , these deputations have been appointed; and I ive no doubt that throughout the Island many meetings of the Lme kind have been held. {CouD. Thomson cross-examines Mr Holland. — Are you a Inant Mr Holland? No. Was it to represent your grievances \n attended these meetings? No. Are you interested as a loprietor? I am. How much land do you own? I cannot [y just now. I* would be a grievance to press you on that lint just now I suppose? I own about 7000 acres. Well, J do \\ know what people call you here, but in New Brunswick, wonld call you a proprietor. You attended these meetings |th strong proprietory feelings, did you not? Are you in favor [leasehold tenures? No. I would rather if it were practica- 9, see every man a freeholder, if it wonld stop the croaking [political demagogues. Do you think making the tenantry o^ is Island freeholders is practicable? I do not know. Hrive In not frequently stated that it was utter folly for the people 1 expect anything frcrn tihis Royal Commission? I have not. ) that meetingdid you not ridicule the powers of this Commis- ? I only said that I believed the proprietors who did not Dsent to ibis Commission, would not be bound by its decision? rarned the people against entertaining too great hopes. My ksoDsfor so doing afe those : I support the present Government; fa I told Mr Cornelius Howat that if they excited hopes not to be llized it would injure the Government. You went there as a kprietor to express your views to the tenantry? I went there as litizen. You considered yourself of no more importance there I citizen with 7000 acres of land, than one of those 4 tenants at h meeting? jlom. Hows. — Do you suppose the small nunr.ber of tenantb jthese meetings was an indication of no interest being takeii ii *.. "Jfl'-M* i li ill 1 'I 1 ■ i i I r 8S THE LAND COMMISSION. in thin Commiiiion? [Answer not heard by Reporter] If yon had not bean thare, migbt not more fenanta have been pr^ aent? (Laaghter.) Mr lloLLAito. — My tenanta are independant gentlemen, r believe I have no more inflaence over them than I have over | the most independent man in this baiiding. Coun Thomson. — You say there were only 4 tenants pre- sent; it appears yon took down the naoaes of the black aheepl right off the reel. Mr Watt. — Mr Holland'a aocoant of that meeting ia verj distorted. It most be remembered that theae meetings were called in the very depth of harveat, and at a very short no- 1 tioe. The aecond meeting was generallv attendedi and those I who opposed were I .believe all leaseholders. In reference tol that half of the Lot, the people are very mach diasatisfied withl both proprietor and agent, for many have persisted in not pay.l ing rent since this hod Commission has arrived. The agentil of thia Lot have threatened the people to whom they promiHI farms at la. an acre. Many of the farmers on that section ofl the Lot are American refugees, and I have been informed thai some of them have paid in rent j£300 to £400, and that onil man has paid XlOOO of rent for 850 acres. In addition. theJ htfve been debarred every privilege of converting their leasel holds into freeholds. A lease has been grantet*. to no one fotj the last 40 yeara, and no person is in a position to give one. The Court adjourned at 6^, p.m. 'i>: Friday, Sept. 14. '' This morning Co an. Hens ley introduoed to the Courll Donald Montgomery, Esq,, M. P. P., Messrs. Willi^J Gousins, John MoEie, and Sutherland, a deputation froJ Lots 20 and 21, and read their memorial. In th« memoriil after expressing their confidence in the Commission, the] stated that they thought the practice of leasing wildernei fknds at the rates of Is- and 2s. an acre, caused serioui inoonvenienoe. They showed the difficulties with whicbi man entering upon a piece of wilderness land for the puN pose of ekidg out a livelihood, bad to contend. At leDgtil <:heir families grow up, who, seeing nothing but hardaSii before them, become discouraged and leave their parenti frequently with impaired constitutions, to seek a home i foreign lands. The payment of rent Is becoming more anj more odious, and the inability of the people to meet tbi demands of the proprietors inereasing The system isi garded as one of slavery. The proprietors have seized upoiij and rented the fishery reservesjust as other Innds; thougl these reserves were intended to be a lasting benefit to tb country. Many claimants were considered &s haviqgi titles; and some heads of lamilies have been dragged froi their homes for simply inquiring by what authority cUii ; I' ; THB LAND COMMISSION. > . m [ant4 demaoded reat. V*ur these and other reasons they bopd the proprietary system would soon be abolished. I OouD. HiNSLBT to Mr. MoirrooKBBr.— Yoo are well ao* Iquaioted with the Lots you represent, Mr. Montgomery f [yes. ITou refer lo the fishery reseryes in yotir memorial^ aooordioK to your own views, and the views of the people [yoo represent, what would be r>he most suitable way to Miipose of these reserves? would it be to confirm persons iboldiDg farms on them, in their possessions, or to keep [them open for fishing purposes ? . We think they should [remain in occupation as they are now. Com. Howi.— Tofenoe them oflT would be a great nuisance Iwduldit not.* Mr. MoNTOOMERr. — Most decidedly so. Com. UowB. — At the same time you think you should lot pay rent fur them ? Mr. M. — Not to the proprietors at all events, for they reoeive rent enough in other respects. Com. HowB. — It is your opinioii that the actual occu- Ipants of the Reserves should be confirmed in the possession [of them? Mr. M.— Yes. ♦ Com Gray.— Do you think what has been paid for them [in rent to the proprietor should be deducted from the pur- jcbase money of his farm, if the tenant gets the opportunity [of converting his leasehold into a freehold, and allowed to Itbe tenant ? Mr. M. — I think so. I consider the tenant's rent should [eeaas, for he uas the land now by possessiun. Com. GrIy — Suppose the proprietor can prove his title [good, do you think it should be taken, though the original jrsnts confirms it «o the proprietor? Mr. M.-r-I do. j , vit Com. KowB. — You think the tenant ought to have the rent he has paid fur them refunded: but that would be a liffioult process. Mr. M. — I am aware your bojnors will meet with diffioul- Itins in the equitable settlement of this question. Com. RiTCLiB.— But this land did not belong to the ten- lants, but to the Government, and if anything should here* Ifanded, the Government must receive it. Mr. M. — The people of this Colon v are not inclined to [set dpon mero theory; no doubt they have been paying rent wrongfully. Com. Ritchie.-^ YoQ think then it should not be paid [either to the proprietor the owner. Or to the Government [the owner; but if we are called upon to refund anythinj^, [joQ cannot ask ue to refund It to the tenants. Perbapa it [will be better to l^k by>gones be by-gooes, and morge tneie {reserves into general property. ■^ m li !! ' III' u id THE LAND COMMISSION. Mr. M.'— Tbe people are eatiafied to If ave the question in tiro hands of this Gomniissinn, to be decided as they may oODsider liiost consistent with the prinoi|^Ies of equity I •till entertain the opinion that the rent should be refund- ed to the tenants. , • Oom. RiTCHiK. — But every man is entitled to his rights! Mr. M.— True, and I believe the tenants have as good a right to these reserves as the proprietors have to the town> ship lands. Oom. Grav. — To refund money to individuals who have paid wrongfully would intolve great difficulties. Coun Henslet. — What is the condition of the people whom you representi Mr. M— 'Some on Lot 21, are largely in arrears. Last March Mr. Cuoard's agent distrained upon a number of them, and their obligations were taken to be paid in a fe«[ months. Ooun. Hbnslet. — Were the arrears of long standing ! Mr. M. — In some oases the arrears had accumulated! under the former occupants. ^Com. Gray. — How many were distrained upon! Mr. M. — Twenty-five. The part of the Lot these people! occupy is very stony, and upon the whole, a rugged part of | the country; and the people nre generally poor. Oom. Gray. — Do you think the back rents were wilfully | inourred? f',^ * ' Mr. M. — I think the people are strii^tty' honest. Oom. Gray. — ^You think the rents are too hjgh t Mr. M. — I think they are much too high. Oom. GRAY.—Have the people been settled there long? Mr. M. — I think a partof tne Lot has been settled about I 40 years, but Mr. H. OundalPs half of the Lot within [ the last 15 years. Oom. Howe. — What becomes of these people who are I distrained upon? Mr. DbBlois.— I iosued that number of distraints on Lot I 21. There are about 200 tenants.ofwhom two-thirds owe back rents. I distrained because the) paid nothing during the past year. Oom. Howe.— What proportion was paid! ' ^^ h Mr.DxB. — Some have paid one-half, others one-third. My object in distraining was to keep up the current rent. Some of the parties paid £10, others i;i2, &c. Oom. ItiTCBiB.-~wbat do you think is the vaFue of wild- erness land theffs, Mr. Montgomery f Mr. M. — rtjbinik these men have paid an equivalent al- ready for all they have received from their farms. Oom. RiTCBiB.— -We wish simply to know the value of | the land. .UH). THE LIND COMMISSION. 91 3le who are ilue of wild- Oouo. Henslit. — The land there receives a fictitious value I ffom the lands around. Com- Ritchie. — We will take these things into consid^F- Ution; but we must have data to |i;uide us. The tenantry are QOt going to settle this question , and the leases must represent the present value. Com. Grat. — Mentioning the price of lands there now I does not determine the price we may place upon them. Mr. M. — 1 think the lands there are not worth more than ISsGdanaore. Iftho Government obtain the township, the land ought to be sold at the price for which the Selkirk [estate was purchased. ^ Com. Ghat. — I suppose the moment this question is set- Itled a new era of prosperity will begin in this Colony — that persons will come in, and thus the value of lands will in- crease. Allowing this to be the result, what would be tbo lvalue of land per aor6 in that district? Mr. M.^Were I selling ic to them, I could not expect I more than what I have already mentioned. Coun. Palmer. — Respecting the fishery reserves; yon jbave stated how you would desire it to be with leasehold- ers, but will you state how you would act with freeholders I like yourself! Mr. M. — I expect to enjoy the privilege in common with [the leaseholders. Coun. Palmer.— Yes, as a privilege, but aro you pre- I pared to pay rent for any of the reserves ? ' Mr. M.— No. Coun. Hbnslet. — You would not be prepared to surren- I der any right ? Mr. M. — No; I am never prepared to do that to any I man or body of men. Coun Hen8Lky — Have the proprietors in making modern I leases imposed noy additional rent — have they put an addi- tional value upon their lands ? Mr. M. — I think so, with other strange imposition*) such as yon heard yesterday in the leases which were read. Hon. D. Montgomery. — They do it in this wny: some iottlers who have spent a large portion of their lives upon a piece of land, may fall into arrears, and be compelled to leave their farms Other men come along who are willing to pay a higher rent than the former tenants on account of the improvements put upon the land by the persons who left it. In this way the proprietor somettmes gets his back rent indirectly paid up. Mr. William Cousins before the Court. — I wish to cor- rect a statement which I made in Cbarlottetown respecting the rents paid to Mr. Cundall. I stated that I thought they were well paid; but upon inquiry I find svch is npt ii iTTf;**" 11 ,' il il:i i^!! 92 THE LAND COMlflSSIOy the oaw. I have been given to understand that the renti OB tbeCandall property have not been well paid, and that there have been some oases of hardship in their oolleotioQ, Some have been distrained upon, and others ejected. Lanj jear I think great harshness was used in these respeoti, I refer now to Lot 20. These people had to get seourit;! for the payment of the sums they owed. There have beeol cases of imprisonment too u^on the Township. About 3ol years ago tnere was great agitation, as tbe title to the Con-f dall property was ooosidered doubtful. Five or six indij vidoals went t • Mr. Oundall to ask by what authoriljr h(l was demanding rent. A court was sitting in Oharlotte-I town at tbe time, and in the course of a few days an^armedl force was sent up, and the men taken and imprisoned. l| said I understood the only ground upon which Mr Cundalll held his property was by a grant of 200 acres of land mtdcj to a Mr. Beuirsto. of Halifax A person proceeded to Halif fax to search the records there, and found that it was tbenl recorded. I understand that it is in the Journals uf tht| House of Assembly for either '32 or '33 that Mr. Cundalll got this document registered contrary to law. I refer ul the hon. the Speaker of the House of Assembly fur info^| mation on this subject. Com. Grat. — What do you consider to be the value oi wilderness land in your neighborhood? Mr. Cousins. — I would with regard to my own prepertjl pay 5s or even lOs per acre ? Mr. DbBlois wished a person upon whom he distraine^l last spring to be called up to state bis case of hardshipl George Stewart war. called, and merely stated that he had| been distrained upon last spring. Mr. H. CcNDALL said, one man upon whom I distrained! was written to by me repeatedly; still I received no answcrf Finally I issued a distress warrant. His farm is wortll from jC300 to jE^400. He paid up one-third of his biick| rent. Com. Ritchie. — Distress warrants are not issued her^iil half the number they are in Nova Scotia, and other plaoeil We see that men have to go back 30 years for instances ofl imprisonment, and this shows that it has been a rare oc-l currenoe. Mr. DeB. — A merchant may distrain as much aabil pleases, and they think nothing of it. Com. Gray. — That sMews how much the system is dii-| liked. (Laughter.) ' CouD. Thompson wished to know if the month of Mareil was a distraining season with the proprietors. (Laughter.)l Com. Howe. — Ae a general rule, 1 think the spring isi| bad time to distrain THB LAND OOMMl^fllON. $8 own propertjl Mr M'KiBi another member of thii delegation, Mid — I am BOtMOt to complain perionally of the landlord or agent, but the kyitaoi. The ayatera I conaider to be barah and crael. I knew pfperaona being ahipped to thia laland from Scotland who coold lot pay their paMage. They arrived in New London deatitate. l^hen the inhabitants ofCorbett Wooda were settled « the a^ent imo saying the land waa his, and compelled them to submit to [he terms which he dictated. The landlord in the old conntry lid their pasaage to this country to get them off his estate. lespeeifng the value of land, I agree with the other delegates. Conn. Palmbh. — You spoke about these people going to the ;orbett Weeds; now were not wilderness (arma more advan- igeous to these people considering their uircumstances than (leared farms, for if they were cleared the people would iqnire stock dto / [Answer not heaid.] Mr Allan Frasbr before the l^eurt. — Mr Fraser com- ^eoced by telling about a Frenchman from Canada, who, by Iress of weather^ was thrown on the north side of this Island. Chis man was taken by the Sheiiif, William Bearisto, in a liitake for an escheator, and without any commitment was ipritoned. Proprietory influence in this Colony, he would ^iib their Excellencies to understand had affected every thing, .jadijiial, political, and social. Mr. Fraser next showed iw proprietors avoid paying anything for the opening up of pads, after which — I Com. HowB remarked— If I understand Mr Fraser's argu- ment it is this: under a general law of the Island which compels jreiy one to contriknte towards public roads, J^SOOO have been hid by the aiQall proprtetors: but by the action of the Courts of iw, the large proprietors have shaken themselves clear of the \% altogether. Can this be shown i ""f- Hon. Mr Warbvrton. — I was commissioner of roads at |e time to which Mr Fraser refers. The road to which Mr Iter alludes was open from River to Tignish, a dis- Ince of 16 miles. The opening of it cost £1300. Cunard's ire of the expense amounted to £700 or £800, which he jroided paying by having a suit quashed in Court. The Palmer |o«d, which passes through Mr Palmer's property, was pur- liaiied by hirisself. There is another road leading from the /estern Road to Lot 8, of which the length is eight miles, to- trds which the proprietor paid nothing. I Mr H. CvNDALL contradicted this statement. Com. HowB. — How did he get clear of paying ? [Mr Warburton. — Through some alleged invalidity in the [oceedlngs on the part of those who conducted the suit. [Conn, Palwbr.— Respecting the Road compensation Act, I ly remark that there are many preliminaries to be attended to bfore the machinery can be set in motion. iMr Warbvrton. — There watnot an impartial inquisition: [Com. Grat. — What amount were they relieved from by that U inquisition ? [Mr W. — 1 cannot say; perhaps £1<*00. Opening the West- Road was a very material bene6t to the proprietor's estate. r^r-t I i! , r I ( *IJ :f;i 94 THE LAND COMMISSION. Cora. Gray. — It waa an immenaa amoant to aaek to tak«| from thece poor piopU when it want to iuiprcve their eatatea. Conn. Halibukton. — A certain anin waa offered to them, I and they refaaed to accept of ii> Then prooeedinga ware takeg { Rgainat the proprietor, the eoorae waa proved to be onfair, and the reaalt waa aa yon have heard Mr Db BitOia. — Many private roadahave been opened by tin | proprietor, which af^erwarda became public roada. Com. Gray. —A, peraon woold think that wealthy peopl«| would aet a good eiample in thia reapect. Hon. Col. Gray. — Will Mr.De lloia mention for the infopj roation of your Excellenoiea how much Mr Snilivan haa cootri. bated towarda roada, bridgea, achool-houaea, churchea, &o i - Mr Db B. — Nothing at all aince 1 have been agent. Hon. Col. Gray. — I preaume when Mr Do Biota took tb cgency he kn«w pretty well the atate of niattera; can he ititil at thia moment that Mr Sullivan ever paid XI to theae object! ij Mr Db B, — I cannot. Com. Gray. — Haa Mr Sullivan been long abaent ? Hon. Col. Gray* — He haa never been preaent, your Ex] cellency. [Laughter.] Mr pRAaBR. — In thia reapect I hold that Cunard ia not mo gailty than the other proprietora. The Houae of Aaaembly to up thia queation warmly on one oecaaion, and were about to nb for the Chief Jnatice; bat it w la overruled, aa it waa tboagiiti| would inteifere with theoourtaof justiee. It waa auppoaed thong that hia Lordahip would get auoh a hearing aa he would not lo forget. Every evidanee waa brought before the CooimiUt The Prothonotary atated that the writ, which had to go It milea, wat detained till the third day before it waa to be aetT* and the Sheriff arrived with it a few houra aAer the time. Coun. Palkbr. — I have heard it atated that hia Lordihi had no difficulty in aettiog it aaide. Com. HowB. — la there any evkienoe to ahow thnt proprieta were ever brought to book for anything ? [Laughter.] Mr FRAasR. — No. Com. HowB — I aak the qneatioa aerioualy; ia that tliepn vailing opinion on thia Island ? Mr F. — It is. — Again, I may refer to the Land Tax Act, wbii| imposed a tax of Ss. on each hundred acres. It was pai here, and sent home; but the proprietors petitioned agaii it, and having been oppoaed in England, a deapatch camei allowing it to go into operation at 4s. instead of Ss. Thos jij aee these mbn have had power to control the whole macbina of the country. The Rent Roll Bill waa passed here also;! through proprietory infloence was disallowed at home. I next allude to the intimidation practised by proprietors at eli tiona, and will mention the caae of Charles M^Rinlay, who,l| apeaking againat the **powera that be** tit a public ing, waa so perMCnted that he 'aa forced to leave the I and. Respecting the price of land, I may say that under I old ayatem, land on Lot 16 — a Crown Lot<— aold, or was ofi many years for saU, at 208. Stg. an acre. In 1850 it # r &• ■> \ ' Br ' THE LAND COMMIHHION". 95 fought down to 6i. , and linoe that th« Hnuae o. Aaieinbly tpan. Halibvrton. — How long have vou remained on ir place? (r Fraibr. — Since I took IL Joun Halirvrtom — Why have you remained no long? * l^lr F — Beoauae I could not sell my property, ^oun. TKOMaoN. — Do the landlords inclode the roada in the II they lease! Ir F.— My lease inclndtfs one half or a road. Ir Anderson, surveyor. — I hove alwuys allowed for the in commenced at a road I measured from its centre, but ^wed for it iq the rear. When commencing at the uhore, and I land orosiied a road, this could not be done. jHoon.THOMtsoN. — Did Lewellyn dismiss yoo for aiiovfi?f [the road? Ir A. — Vei: I thought to follow hie directions wonid be un- |r Alix. Stewart, of Lot 18, before the Conrt. — I am a bdson of the man who was instrumental in bringing the British settlers to this coantry Before they came, they |e deceived by the descriptions which were given of this Is- They settled on the Crown lands in Princetown Royalty. ^e years after, a bill was broujtht into the Legislature to deprive n oi their lands, and the I'eiult was, tboy left them. A man [he name of Robinson was accustomed lo go home annually Bceive ihe people; and when be brought emigrants out, used ive them on the shore. Thus they were compelled to settle inds at the terms which the proprietors might dictate Dm. Gray. — Are you related to the proprietors of your ke? [r Stcwart. — I am connected, with all the proprietors of Bame. In 1820, immigrants arrived in Malpeque; bat when [came there, they insisted upon the captain's bringing them Wlottetown. One of these persona afterwards returned to land, met Robinson there, took legal proceedings against and, as Rubinsun could get no one to take up his case, he lit. That prevented farther .emigration then. Mr Hill of Inmpec also sent his son home to look for emigrants. This _ roan seeing how the people were deceived, said it was sg him mad; and ultimately he became mentally deranged. |1 now mention particular cases to phow the evil working of proprietory system. A man on Lot 26 with his family 300 9cres of land, and paid rent as long ns he could. [fatiily leaving him, he was unable to pay. At his death, imily sold the property. I bought it for £150 with oil the ings->a great bargain. In money, I handed them a solitary [note which was all they received for thn labor of 40 years. the rest went into the pocket of the propriotor. Respecting k': !' (■I: J !; I ! r Ml ■ ti 96 THE LAKD C0MMIS810N. the roadf on Lot 18, none have been left by the proprietor. Tiwi people are paying rent for roade aud all. On that Lot peopit [ are eontinoally changing. I woald impress apon year hODonl ihii fact, that the people who were brought to this country weril baaely deceived. I coald stote facts which v7oald astonish yoa,! Among other things, the siege of Malpeqae was remarkable. Com. Howe— I have heard aboat tho siege .^f Derry, ^c| . Will yoa tell as sen.cihing about the siege of Malpeqae ? Mr STBWART.->-Gorernor Fanning issued orders for a mnj ter of Militia about the year 1802, which order was disregards by the inhabitants of Malpeque. The Governor being inaignaiii| at their disobedience forthwith ordered a detachment, of soldien' and others to accompany him to Malpeque. On his arrival theriy not a man was to be found; all had fled to the woods. Ad remaining some days, and threatening what he would do, if could but lake them, the people not making their appearano he had at last to pledge himself to do them no injury providlij they would muster. They having been made acquainted »it| these promises, iininediately came and mu^ered. The Goti eraor, on being askfcd if they might dismiss, replied that thq might go to h — . When he retained to Charioiteiown, he dre up a despatch, representing the whole Island as in a state i rebellion, and that he had besieged \Ialpeque, the principi stronghold of the rebels, and completely subdued thjom. Hei the same Mme gave a list of the killed and wounded, accoii| panying it with a draft for no incunsideiable amount to defn the pipenses of the siege. One of the officers, who was repri sented as being wounded, but who merely got bis trotViers to on Kis way thither, applied for, and received a pension. Tb despatch wae followed by anather, equally falae,representingt the Townships on the Island as hnving the full eomplemeuti settlers required by the original grants, when between Sumrai side and the North Cape there wa-> not a 'single settler; fro the North Capp reluming on the north side of the island to Eleanor's there were not over 23 settlers, with the exceptionj the Acadian French; and from St. Eleanor's to Charlottef)* there waa an unbroken forest, with the exception of the do aoce of one settler. ^ . i Com. R.ITC HI B.-r— These despatches are not to be found. Mr SxEWii RT. — This much I know, that one time Goven Fanning's Secretary came to my father's house, as he ente he struck my father on the shoulder and said, ** Well Clard what do yon think, our population is thirty>two thousandl *' It is impossible," repiied my father, ** for I know every in on the Island, and there is not one fourth of that pumbef.] These despatches 1 have often heard spoken of by those versant witirthe whole circumstance, hut never heard the fij of ti^eir being written disputed. These despatches I ai« aaderatood were got np for the express purpose of preventing 1 Escheat Bill of .1808 from going into operation. Hon. Dona i,D Mo mt go mry, Speaker of the House of i sembl^, addresses the Court. — Your Excellencies: it is noti ioteotion to nial^e any elaborate siateme.v.a, or to go intodeitilj THE LAND COMMISSION 97 Iw'wh ^^ '*^^' ^ ^^^ qaeitioa generally, roentioaing lonie of tb« Lili which arifes from the land tenure* of thii Island. That hli e&iatt everjr person knowa; even the proprietors them- iWes do not deny it. The (irosperity of the country has been [larded ^ety much by the working of the eyetem which yonr Veellenciei are at present investigating. For one thio;^ it has iprived a* (torn having tt suprr^or class of iminigrants. Per- kgt with money prefer locating thoroselvus where they can re- live land on more favorable terms than in this Province; so g liland has been inundated with men without means, some whom have had their passages to this place paid by parties •rested in their removal from the Mother Country. Now a M of teoantf of this description will never enhance the value jMV country. Our popniation increases slowly, and one cause n» is i^^ manner in which lands are held. [Com* HowB. — Do >ou double in 20 years ? [Mr MeWTOOMKRY. — We do not. A short time ago I saw L account of an examination which took place before a com- ittee of the House of Commons, respecting the lands in New loaswick. Opinions were asked concerning the system of liing lands in th6se Colonies, and it w.s thv'>ught that the p^- B it America were decidedly opposed to the name of r<*!it. ^\Qtiij\ — stated that if the proprietors would sell their iidsBt reasonable rales, and have interest paid on the purchase ley, it Would take well, for thr, name of proprietor sounded inh ' People in coining to this Coiony think JUb for the rent a farm appears small, if they have been accustomed to^ pay 2 or £3 per hrre in the old country; but they are then not rsre of the .hardships which are before them. The forest is I be failed , and instead of having one acre with which to com- gBce they have not a single foot. They toil on, living in Lpes that they will one day better their condition, but find [sir rent increasing upon them uniil they are probably J£10, [18, or £20 in arrears. Then they see their prospects are lighted, — that they cannot free themselves, and tnat the iin- nvsments which they have been putting upon their farms Its not been for thviir own benefit. These reflections to a lin extent induce them to be indolent. Men do not make lat exertion which they would, had they the fee simple of leir farms. Hence your Excellencies must see that the pro- lietary system retard^ the itnpiovtjmeiit of this country. We Lvehad blights in this Island of various kiitds, but the worst li^ht of all \9 the system we deprecate. It has been said here at the impression h^s gone nbroitd that tenants cannot obtain slice in the court** of !aw, wli«n brought threre by pruprietor4. Iwoold be sorry to f>ay they could not obtain justice, still I be- trs such an opinion is general. As the sons of the tenantry kow up, they do not see the use of settling upon land which ^sy are so litble to lose, nnd consequently many are indoced leave their country. A few years ago when in conversation [ith a land agent, I diiicovered that his tenants svere largely in rrssrs. Why keep these people in bondage, I inquired ? if you nnot obtain these arrears, strike them off; by so doing >oa 98 VHE LAUD COMMISSION. 1*1 hi i : i' n ) f i . ■'! would create a nflcse offreddoin in them which would be bene, ficial to both parties. Said he, these tenants impirove the pro.! perty a little after the time they boild the second hoaiiie,and| though arrears are accumalating, still their improvements ar«| worth the back rents. Coun, Haliburton. — Who was the agent ? Mr MoNTOoMBRY. — I do not care abont meutioning nameij but the agent is IVIr Forgan. This shbws that after a mar. hiil put many years of hard labor upon a farm, they make no scrap! J to turn him oft on account of a few pounds of back rent ; and if think your Excellencies will agree with me when I say that Bnekl a state of affairs should not exist in any country, "A especialljl in new countries. I spent three years of my life in i-ievi Bruiu.! wick. When I was there lands were selling at 29 6d an acrejf and a few years previous to that time, they were much lowerj being only £ 10 for the block of 200 acres. It was aAerwardil put up by I he Government to j£25 for the block. Now I canX not see that lands should be sold at higher rates in this ColonJ than in the neighboring Provinces. There they are not as «J looked up 7 months in the year; besides their lumbering priviT leges are very considerable. In fact in this Island we have now! in jnany instances to import our lumber. Speculating men means obtaining general permits have stripped the lands, and ii| several instances have left them worthless. Com. Howe. — Do you mean to say you import your boardij and shingles ? Mr M.— It i« 80. Coun. IlAMBURTOir. — Do you refer to the whole Island? Mr* M.'^l believe it is nearly general. Com. Gray. — What do you pay for cord wood ? Mr M. — la Charlottetown it is sometimes as high as 208 p« cord; in the country it is about lOs. Much of the forest bail been destroyed by lire Between the settlement in which I re- side, and the Messrs Oagnall, in the course of 20 years I thinlij there will not be a green stick left. Persons coming to settle i this country who po-rses.^ some means generally succeed, andiil a few years become comfortable settlers. ' In other caseil though people bring no money, if thev settle near the sea ahort, or enjoy other privileges they occasionally prosper. In man;] instances, however, when this virgin soil becomes exhanutedj poverty ensues. The soil in this island is poor,'and requira to be frequently improved with manure to ensure anything ap proaching to an abundant return. As there are no mines no minerals in this e^onntry, nothing is obtained bat what coma from the labors of the industrious settler When we look at thil effects of the proprietory system, we see it ao cramps the enerJ gies of the people, and retards the progress of the conDirj| generally, that after farms have progressed so far, they then,i it were become siationary. In some cases I believe the aym induces idleness. Tenants fall into arrears, and not seeing hoil they are to extricate themselves, become disheartened I harq frequently said to such people, yon mupt stir up and endeavor) liberate yourselves. They generally' appeared lo think ibttl THE LK}iD COMMISSION. 99 ^uld not. If we make improvemanti, laid they, we do not know bow long we may have the privilege ofeojoying them. A keDtlemaa referred yoo to me to-day for information in refereace >»docnmet)t of Mr CnndaU'a. At the period to which he al- idodi there wai maeh diatarbance in a settlement in that part the eonntry called Irishtown. It waa thoaght the proprietor BO legal title to the land he wae then claiming. I was in Ee Legialatare at that time, and one day Mr Candall came to \e Hooae and called out Mr William Clark and myself. Tak- QS into an ante roona, Mr Candall remarked that he was Ot obliged to show his title to every person, bat he woald pre- ^Dt it f^ °*» *>>^ '^ w^ chose, we coald inform the people that had t title. I think the date of the paper was 1767, bnt it not appear to me to be a docnment issacd at that time. He [formed us too that he was going to put it on record. This enment is recorded, and will speak for itself. [Com. Gray. — Mr Montgomery, yoa heard Mr Fraser men- bo about people frequently changing their places of residence;^ |iach a common occarrence ? [Mr M.— It is. [Com. Gray — Does this changing arise from a failure to pay nt? Ir M.— Not necessarily. Sometimes persons find they can- It meet their demands and eeil off. 7om. Gray— They do this rather than give all to the prietor ? irM.— Yes jom. Ghay— Families have been settled here for 40 years; re tbey not improved their condition consid'irably ? Ir M.-^They nave. These persons continue to improve their eamstances until a certain period, and after that they remain |tionary. >m. Gray — What do you think is the value of first clas» IS on the Island ? M. — ^Tbis depends almost entirely upon circumstances* old settlements there are no lands for sale, /om. Gray — How many farms would sell for J62000 ? I.— I do not know' one. Were I to offer my farm for ^,1 believe I would not get £1000 for it. I consider the le of an article to be what it will bring in the market. Ten ago property was more valuable than it' ia at the presen This ! consider to be ewing to the class of emigrants whb le come here. fom. HoWk — Are rhe people generally sober ? M.— In the settlement where I live they are ? Not one orgpiritnous liquor waa entered in the port last year. om. Howe— I asked thai question because there used to be MS with us, of whom it wae said the third child waa born the rum which was drunk at the wedding was paid for ; il thought you might posaibly have some of the same class [Laughter.] ran. Haliburton — Are not £11,000 of your revenue ed from the liquor traffic, whereas the whole revenue of the td amounts to only £43,000 ? m m' !; Um 100 THE LAND COMMISSION. '' Com. HowB— I thiak th|t is about the proportion ia other tionotriea. Mr MowTGOMBRYT-Ia the dietriot where I reside, the peo. pie are generally sober and industrioas. Perhaps Mr HaliborJ ton \ik» read the report of that, I may say> iafainoas liar, ti)i| correspondent of the JVetc York Tfibun§. Conn. HALiBiTRTGir — I itaerely inqaired to ascertain thil i' wealth of the people by their Inxaries. . is there not a great deil| of tobacco used here also ? y. / Mr M. — There is too maoh. " Hon. Col. Grat. — You have been in this country upwards o 46 years, and you have been in the Legislature 22 years; then fore you have had many opportunities of judging, and are coo. sequently able practically to answer this question: Do yoi consider an undue proportion of the young men of this Islan quit their homes, and leave the Colony on account of thereil ^ tal system ? , Mr M. — I do. Of ourselves there was a large family. Sod of my brothers emigrated to the neighboring Provinces; an one of these has the honor of holding a seat in the Legislatui^ of New Brunswick. ^ Col. Gray. — Do they not frequently leave on account of tbi yoke fixed upon their shoulders by their fathers ? Mr M. — I think so. I visited a settlement on Lot 22 some] time ago. The settlers were from Seoltand, Such poverty | thought did not anywhere exist on this Island as I witnea there. Not very long afterwards there was considerable agiti tion about the School Act. dome were of opinion that tbei should be a clause in it making it compulsory upon pareDtit send their children to school. After my visit to tnat settlemeoij whan in conversation with our clergyman upon education,! gave it as his opinion that parents should be compelled to seij their children to school , I replied that if a clause to that efij were iut reduced into the Act, in many cases the Governo would be under the necessity of providing clothing to the chiU ren before they could enter a school-room. The buta in whid theea people lived were most uncomfortable hovels, bei either wind-tight nor water-tight. Com. HowB — What length of time have they been setlltj there i t/it M. — About ten or twelve years. Com. Grat. — Are they tenants now ? Mr M.— Yes— of Mr Sullivan. Com. Gray. — Are they in arrears of rent? ' , Mr M.— No doubt they are. Com. HowB. — There must be something defective ai> these people ? Mr M.— I thought so at the time. Coun. Hauibvrtom. — Suppose they were made freehoMtj do you think they would be more prospeions ? Mr M. — It would appear not,lf they pay no rent now; bati they been settled on freeholds at first, they mi^ht have ' more energetic. In traveiltog through Dalhousie, some jfs THE LAND COMMISSION 101 >rtion ia othtr ' defecuve ab inr I had been Rnt in thnt part of New Brunswick, I was as* lUhed at the iin|irovemeiits which hud been made during tay Mtncoi ond my brother iiifurmed me that moat of the laland L ^hu had fettled there, could command JC2U0 or £300 cash. [;„ni. Gray. — Id there any ditiiculiy in getting laborers in Inland? I, i\|.— There is in the time of harvesr » iom- Gray. — Any difficulty in obtaining permanent laborers? Ir M. — Not any, if you can afTord to pay them thd wages ^ich they a;«k. But were I to hire a servant to work my farn» [would soon have the property, and I would become the ser It. Piiriners here cannot afford to pay the wages of permua- laborers, jorn Gray.— Yoong men leave here then to better their cii« ijtnnces, nut altogether because they dislike the proprietory ptem ? Mr M.— I beliove few of them would go away, could they lain farms here in fee simple. Juiin. Thomson — I think there can be no comparison be> Ben the advantages of men who go to New Brunswick nnd land, and thooe who rent land here at Is. an acre. The rantiise would be on the aide of the man who settles in New inswiok, since he can purchase land at a lower rate. The rent ^erid never out of debt. Doynu know whether the proprietor* jctly or indirectly have u^ed their means to cpan up this pntry over wliich ihey have exercised such vast control? Ir IM — \i a general rule I believe they have not. In ?efer- le to paying i^ents ftr main roids, I myself have seen the reyor plant his staff upon ihe centre of a road and nnea- t from the spot. I then inquired if he made any allowance 16 rear, and he said, not any. Joun. Thomson -Do you know if the proprietors have con- luted anything towards school -houses, churches, and such like? Ir M— COMMIBSIOir. 108 ' the Commif- he freeholders Mr P. — I am not nware. The timber hun been taken oif by permita. Mr Yeo, I anderstawd, has a general license^ On Lot 17^ there are oiilj a few tenants. Lot 16 is free land. Lennox Island, which was set apart for the Indians, is not left to iheni. The} are deprived of the hay which growa upon it. COi.... RiTGHiK. — Who tnterferea with them ? Mr P. — Mr Yeo and Mr Stewart claim the island. [Mr Yeo wai here called fur, bat happened to be absent.] Conn. pALMKR.~Yoa are acquainted atTignish; yon know parties there who hold freeholds, and parties who hold leases; , which of them is the better off? Mr Pbrry. — Some of the inhabitants in Tignish are in com* fortable circa m stances; bat from the Palmer road Settlement yoa have not received XlO in rent Coani Pai^mir — Oh! well, if I choose to let them ofT-^thait is another subject \ Mr P. — The people are not able to pay. They are eo poor that I believe it will require another ctase of people to come and boy them out, and give them an opportunity of movio§ fiirther baek into the country. Coun. Palmvr. — Yoa referred to Lot 16 as being free land; which has the best chapel, that Township or Tignish ? Mr P. — ^That is not a criterion ; in the one place there are 400 families, and in the other only 160. Lot 1 was settled 60 year* •go. Lot 16 at a later date. Com Howe — I have heard about the chapel in Tignish, that it cost £20,000; now assuming this snm to be raised by 400 families, that would be JE60 for each family. Mr P. — The chapel at Tignish is built of brick. The clay was dug by the people themselves, and by them made into bricks. The boards and lumber and part of the lime were pro* cnred by the people themselves; they also performed all the labor, with the exception of that done by the tradesmen, which rormer was valaed at 6s a-day ; in this manner the calculation was made. Com. Hows,— Have the people there peculiar advantages for Ifishing ? ' MrP.— ^ea. Com. HowB. — Have the people in Lot 16 these advantages i Mr P. — Not to such an extent. Conn. H ALiBURTON.-— Who gave the land for the old chapel? Mr P. — The proprietor — 60 acres. I may state further that bout 100 French families are going to emigrate to Restigoach New Brunswick, irom Rastico, in a short time; and unless ometbinit be done soon to settle the miiids of the people, many^ lore will leave this Colony. Coun Palmbr. — In Rustioe the people are crowded too losely together. Their farms are all small, and no more can Hde^tbere. Mr Db B1.018. — I have bad applications from several of these irsena fw land in Tignish ; but 1 discovered that they were boomcnted and idle, and I thoufbt if 1 granted their request bey woald prove an iojory to those already seuled there. I J i ?■■! I \ 'i ii ::i rh '■ i '■ 104 THB LAND OOMHIBSlOlf. inld them to get GovArnnient Innd, if they wifhed to laavil Ku!itio«». Mr Pbrrt. — Ke*peciin| the value or hndu, I think it •hooljl . be «et ntwhat it wuiwurth iii ilM uniiiipnived ttute. 40 yearn «•, gentlemen being oiilhid upim to viilue Lot three did on, and HkI prico they decided it to be worth viraa la. per acre for the r««| : aiinpje. Com Gray.— When waa Lot One aetlhdf Mr P.— In 1800, but no rent was demanded until 1835. Conn. PALBiiER.-^Kent wan paid there before you were borgj Hon. Col, Gray.— I would like to aak Mr Perry aa a genilel man of sound experience whether he thinka the people in hiil di^iiict, nr generally throughout the Inland, would piefer puJ chasing thnir landa under the Land Purchjaa Uill, or directlil from tho proprietura themaelvea i \^ Mr P.— I beliove tlioy would prefor havin;; the landa fill mii the handd of tho Government. If thii course ia not puriiued.l think the ndme o( proprietor will never cease to exiat, thut ili landlordi will bocoine proprietora de novo. Hon. Col. Gray. — Then the pRople would be content to paj a hij^hnr sum to the Govcrnraent than to the landlords? Mr p. — I cannot aay. Com. MowjB. — Look at the whole revenue of thia CoIoojJ what state would it be in to purchase all these lands ? Mr P. — I am uncertain. Com. HowB. — .Asaumo one million of acres to be purchnii at Hfl per acre, you aoe it would amount to jE250,OIU« Mfliirij currency; but I dc not aay that a good financier could not cuo pafB that sum. Hon. Col. Gray. — Are you not aware, Mr Perry, that ev(| supposing the Government cuuld purchase land au low as 28 { acre, they could not aell to the tenania under 5a ? Mr Perry. — Yes. Com. Ritchie.— Suppose the proprietors were paid in fiiij instalmenis, how would that answer? Mr P. — They would then be at liberty to aell all the wildernti land to onepeison, and that individual might become a newpn prietor. If it fell into tho hands of the Government, I prosuiiiel would only sell in small quantities. Mr Epkraim Reid was then introduced to the CourtI Hon. Col. Griiy for the purpose of giving comparative infij mation respecting thia Colony, and the neighboring Provincei,! Mr Reid. — I ci!iall endeavour to direct your Honors* att«nii[ to such subjects as you wish to be enlightened upon. Iliij had opportunities of seeing the provinces of New Brunawick Nova dcotiu as well as thiii Island. I lived in New Brunswij 32 years, and was brought .up" to farming till I waa 21 yea»j age After tins I travelled with surveyors through much nfl forest of New Brunawick for some years. . We travelled fnj the head of the Restigouche across to the waters of the St. U so you may judge that I am well acquainted with the appeAnij of the country. I came to this Island 20 years ago. t'orab 1& years I have curried on manufactures, in tanning, curryi apol butr THE LAND COMMISSION. 10$ fiihed to l«av« jiroflM making, and boot and ahne ninking. In thi« Intter kranoh I hav»tent oat work to iho diatiuice or SO miles in every lirection. I huve alio turned my nltoniion to farming HaVing ixtended my buiine«a ao far, in collecting my pnymmits, I hav« ^aen brought intit contact with n great number of people, witir ■hnm I have become personally acquainted. From the manner' ^r conducting this investigation it appeara ihit one apariul in- ■airy, 'i» cnnoerning the feelings of the people with re>pect to ibe» ^ent-paying tyslem. I would also MiHte, besides ktiowing the (onniry so well. I have publicly lectured on the political niVaira if this Island in diflftirent parts of the Colony. In thi« way, the- lindi of the people who have not access to papers have been Irawn out. During my lecturing career I have frequently jittled with the land queatrion. Another otject in my lector- lot ^v"' ^^ enlighten the people upon what ctinntituted a liberal Dr free governnient, for ihe way our Government wna >■ "nstruct- Btl at that time, appeared to me, in iia worl«ing to do ' ro riarm than llie proprietors themselves. My arguments n^.iiist the ind Purchase Bill were, that the Government' was mortg^g- ^ng the revenue of the Colony to buy up theso lands, and that Ithe people would be liable for the results. Thus 1 divcovered |that it would be a great injury to this conntrv. Com. HoWB—Wasnot nn effect of your lecturing to indnca Ihe Government f o purchase ano'.her estate i a. Mr Ueid — No: I showed them what the working of the es« hates wou'd cost, that the interest of the money, calculating com- Iponnd interest, would place the Government in un inextricable Idifficnliy. I illustrated thus: Take 100 acres at £.15. Fur this [a man pa)s a lax of Us 2d ; now by calculating compound interest [on his money besides the tax, when ho buhinces his account at [the end of 32 years, he finds the land has cost him £200. [Now supposing 160,000 acres to lie vacant for n length of time, Ion the purchase money of this we would have to^ci\ interest, [at the same lime losing our land-lax. If the freehcMcr w cultivated land, be sold at auction, but how are you flrst going to get hold of them ? We must either take them from the proprietors, or give the tenants themselves a right to purohate them from the landlords. Mr Rbi^— I would suggent that tho present* agents act> ing for the proprietors offer their lands for sale, and see what they would bring, say within 12 months. Com. Hows — Supposing the proprietors would not do that.' [ No answer.] Com. Grat— You have a hard nut to crack, Mr Keid. Mr R — If they would not do so, I would place the lanestate with much advantage to himself; but who has, notwithstanding, acted upon the dog in-the-manger policy in reference to hitt lands. I would let the Government take the land out of the proprietors' hands, and manage tbem at a low rate. Oom. EIowB— If the proprietor with all his income can* not keep above want, much less make money, I wish to know how the Government is going to take the laud out of his hands, to work it for him, and not be a loser ? You are opposed to the Government purchasing the land, now .who is to get it ? [No Answer] Com. Grat— 'A man cannot get a crop unless he lay out •money to buy seed, and would nut a man lay out some money to become settled in life t THB LAND COMMISSION. 107 Mr RiiD— Proprietors have asked 7 times as much for lands as thsy are worth. Oom. GRAT->Sappo»iog that a sum is fixed now, a»> oording to your principle the land must He in the propri- etors* hands until it is sold by them. It is olear the Gov> lemment must purchase these lands out and out, or Iht llenantsmust buy them themseWes. Oom/ Howi— Assume the price of lands to be fixed| [and the proprietors compelled to sell, what should th» tenants pav ? ! Mr R. — Takine the lands upon a whole, they are net I equal to those in New Brunswick. Com. Ritchie — What is the diffdrenoe in tho expense of olearing land in this Island and in New Brunswick t Oan lands be cleared as cheaply in New Brunswick at here? Mr. ft. — Timber lands, are I think, abont as easily (cleared in the one province as in the other, with this ex- 0epti3n, there is a larger growth in New Brunswick. Oom. RiTCHiB— What is the cost of clearing land heref Mr R — I think £A an acre would be an average for the whole Island. Com. Grat — I have paid £10 an acre for olearinf^ my lland. What should each tenant pay for Ibe fee simple )f his land? Mr. ftciD — About Ss an acre. For my own part I have loever purchased wildernes land, for it is like self-righfc- leousness, the more of it a man has, the worse ofi^be is. Oom. HowB — If a person oan get a freehold for lest than Ihe pays for a leasehold, why do men take leaseholds ! Mr R. — Sometimes persons do not like to remove faf Ifrom their friends; besides, W9 cannot account for Ih* ItasteB .ind idiosyncrasies of all men. Cou),. Grat — How much land do you own ? Mr K.- 1000 acres. Com Gray — What would you take for it? Mr.R—je 10,0000. Coun. Palmer— £10 an aore. I . Conn. Hbmslxy— I suppose the proprietors did notmi>ke |it worth that much, Mr Reid. Mr R.— 'No : the value is owing to the improvementt tnd to the situation. I pay £lS of rent also. Mr DsBlois— Outtard has fai;m8 as valuable as Mr iReid't. Oom. [lows — Suppose both in the market, freehold and leasehold, what would be the difference in the value ? Mr R— Business men, I suppose, would consider the liffttrence to be the sura which the rent represents. The delegation from Prinoetown, and Lot IB was then itroduoed to the Court by Coun. Hensley. The membeAi '4 a-. X m Vi' m"^ 108 THE LAND OOMMIBSXON. I ill |{ N IF |l }. rk- h II of this delegation were Mr John Ramiaj, Mr G. Dempsej and, Mr — . One evil eomplaioed ofoy this deputatioo wae th&taeveral iadividuala,mMuming to be proprietor!, claimed rent. U waa itated tliaft a man in the diatriot had leased land from a proprietor in Oharlottetown, and paid rent to hiiu. Afterirarda another man oame along and threatened to serve an execution upon him, if h« wonld not attorn lo him. He carried his threat into ex- ecution, by coming in the spring, and seizing liis horsei which were yoked in the cart. The tenant took out a replevy, and in the mean time saw the man to whom h«| first paid rent, who informed him that ho would defend him, and pay liis expenses at Gourt. The tenant attended Court nt iSt. Eieanur*a«for throe or four days, and after all, the case was never called. It was further stated I that unless thero was a line of demarcation marked I between honest and dishonest proprietors that the agita* tion which now exists among the people would never | •ease. Cum. HowE-^What you relato sometimes occurs in I Nova Scotia, viz. two persons olaiming the same property. . Another grievance was, the tenants do not pussess their complement of land. Some farms lack 3, others 4 acres; one wanted 8, and another was 10 acres short. Thia, however, did not come within the jurisdiction of the Commissioners. Another thing comphiined of was the influence exort3d by f)ropriotora at elections. Liberty of conscience in that respect was in some cases denied the| tenants. An instance was mentioned of a man who pro- posed a candidate on the day of nomination ; b'efore the I election came off, however, he received a letter from a gentleman in Oharlottetown, and the consequence wai| that he voted directly against the man whom he had pro- posed. It was stated that another man was ejeoted for| voting in favor of Messrs Muirlioad and Lord. ' Cuun. Henslry hero proposed a few questions to Mrl John M'Lean of Lot 9, of which no notes were taken bj the Reporter, owing to the darkness in the Court Ilouscj The Court adjourned at 7 o'clock, to open at Charlotte- town on the following Monday. IMoNDAr, Sept , I7> The Court met at Charlotteown, according to adjourn, ment.' Cora. 0«A7 to the Counsel for the Proprietors. — Wei will be glad, if any proprietors are present to-day. to bear any statement tt.ey may have to make. We have liatened to many statemeuts put forth by the tenantry,! aAd we shall bo happy to afl^rd the proprietors an oppor- tunity of answering them, or of giving any explunaiioa I ::!l 1 TUB LAND COMMISSION. 109 Ibcj may think proper. Wa leave it (o tbemeelvet to deoide whether it is deeirable to do eo or not ; they will oot, however, bo able to eay that an opportanity wae not UBorded them. I would eaj further, tnat wearodoftiroui lof having abstraota of the titles to the diOerent Lots la'.d Ibafore ua. Parties base a great ma.ny of tlieir caloula* Itioni upon the absence or invalidity of titles ; and if we Iconld oDtain an abstract of them, ir, might assist in quiet- ling the public mind. In asking this, however, we allow ■the proprietors to ezerctae their own discretion with re* lipeot to' furnishing them. If they do not aid us, they, ind tiot we, will be to blame. Coun. (Ialidurton. — As t\in requesl comes at a late hoor, 1 may state as one of the Counsel for the proprie- ^ors that I must flrst cnnsult them. I was under tlio im- pression that your Excellencies would not go into the lubject of titles Com. Gray — (t is the original titles to the Lots to rhioh we refer ; it id desirable that abstructi of these ^hould* ho given for the purpose of quieting the publio nind. Coun. Hal(bukton-1 am prepared on the part of tho proprietors to submit uU the information requisite, ritb due regard to the interests of the tenantry, 1 think |t is unneoessany to po beyond tho requirements of tho ^otof the loeal Legislature with reepeot to this Commis- sion, by presenting titles, us I think it v;ill not be Uteodea with a good result. Com. RiTCUiB — i think you are not altogether warrant* ^din coming to the concluaiun that the adoption of .this Darse will be attended with no good result. Coun. Palmer — As far as we know the general opinion ^f the proprietors, they desire that every opportunity be Iflbrdod to facilitate the inquiries of the Commissioners. I iCora. Gray — Another thing we desire, is a valuation of |he different Lots, either verbally given in Court, or in* semorandom. Ouun. IIensley— We have been aiming at this all along. Mr W. H. Pope — In cased where abstracts of titles aro Produced, will the Commissioners give an opinion on |hem ? Com. Gray— There may b.j many facts connected with Ibese abstracts, such as heirships, &c., into which we lieed not inquire. .\Ir \V. H. Pore — I cannot see what benoiit will result; lo tho publio unless some opinion is expressed upon them. If ;ou stato your views respecting them, it may be sa tie- actory that you go into the inquiry. Many a proprietor ruuld be glad and desirous to show his title, provided he ittld get an expression of your opinion. i!P ) : li'ih i r'P (i 119 THS LAND COMHlSSIOir. Ooan. Haliborton — The 'only thiD)< to UDtiettle tb« titles is the doubt that the origioal grants have been, aft initio f fulfilled bj the grantees. I am prepared to go into that and shovr that it \s utterly groi^ndlesR. Com. Grat — We have thrown out theve auggeiition* ; you can act as you think advisable. I Com. HoWB— Assuming that all the titles are good, if we did no more than satisfy the people, it would bo an advantage. Assume that this Commission report a ooai- promise which involves payment by the Qovernmant, it is certain money could be paid to those parties only who| have proved their titles to the satisfaction of the Grovern* mral. Com. 0ra7 — It will facilitate the settlement of thii| question t^ accede to our request. Coun. Haliborton— We shall be most happy to fumislil them. Mr W. H. Pops— So far as I am concerned, I am will- ing to submit abstracts of titlen, provided this Couril gives an opinion upon them ; otherwise I am not. I , Com. EIowB— Assuming that money is to be paid to tb» proprietors, it can only be paid to those who have good titles. Supposing 50 or 6i) titles were produced, the' bringing of chat number out of the region of doubt wouKj be very serviceable. Com , Gra7-— Ae it is at present.a doubt may be thrown upon every mar 's title. I Cottu. Haliburton— You must «)onsider that these titleil may bo imperfaot ; wouid that be a hindrance in the wsjl of proving their validity ? Com. Gray— No, your abstract would contain yoat| chain of evidence ; ito very production would be a chal- lenge to the world. Coun. Thomson — If the^e abstracts uro furnished to tb(| Commission, we expect a copy will be shown to us, be- oause many links in the chain may be imaginary Com. RiTcniB— Tiiat shows we oanoot decide whether' the titles are good or bad. Coun. Thomson — A proprietor may set to work andl make a most beautiful chain of evidence I'espeoting b*i title in 15 minutes. Com. RiTCHiB—That may be iovestijitated afterwards; we do not presume, however, ihoy will give us flotitioui titles. Coun. Palmer — An impressbo has };0De abroad that because landlords do not come into Court frequently to prove their titles, they hav^ none. But look for a mo- ment at the difficulty and trouble this would put them to. On one occasion I had to send to Newfoundland, Bermuda and Canada for evidence. Thus to prove a BVffSSBBt mmm TSB LANZ> COKKISSIOir. |^ ill«t yoa may aometimea be oompelled to so to ihe ex-^ IDM of iC150, and not get C-i in return. We, howertr,^ led not ask the Oourt to pronounoe an opibion, as fheli^' irard will show it. Com. Gray — ReBpeottng tb« Taluation of the Tpw'n-' |iipe« we wish the Couosel on both eidee to give theitj Joation on oaoh Lot as far as possible, commencing a^l' jot One, and going regularly through them. If peculiar Iroumstanoes ahouid make one Lot only half as valuable* another* we wish you to state them, &o. [Coun. Thomson now reads a memorial from Lot 30 in Ihalf of the tenants of that Township. It stated that jr Robert Bruce Stewart, claimed tr be the proprietor of je Lot, and set forth the disadvantages to which the tea- > bts are subjected on account of the land tenures. They [e unable to pay their rents, are in arrears, and labor Jider greater disadvantage's tbian the tenants who bx^- Ittled on the front of the Lot. Frost/9 frequently destrojf eir crops They think the front lanua of the Lot are leaper at 28. an acre than theirs are at 6d. 50 or 6D [uatters are settled upon the Township, a portion of Iroin refuse to submit t«> the proprietor ou the plea that ey are settled upon loyalist land. The tenants are not kpqsed to be refaotorv or rebellious, but are inclined to iply with the conditions of their leases us far as they able. They are willing to pay for the fee simple of" bir farms, in easy instalments, the price paid for tb6 Ikirk estate. They thouisht the decision of the Com* Bsic^ers would not be satisfactory unlcsc the titles up- jVTbich the proprietors base their claims be investigatea, d all lands for which good and valid titles cannot bis ^wn. be forfeited to the Grown, To show the validity Ithe Proprietors' claim to Lot 30, they set forth the re- rtof a committee of 4he House of Assembly which ia f Drded in the Journals of that body for 1836 p 130, reference to the registers, it is seen that in 1835. |hteen thousand acres of land on Lot 30 were sold, by late Captain John Stewart for £1000 stg.,-^ about id per acre, and he well knew the value of land He it at thi(» low rate because the proprietors then ap- Ibended that their lands were aoout to be forfeited the non-fulfilment of the conditions of the original Ipts. [rom thiis Lot two committees wero present. On the vrere Angus M'Phee, James Dollar and Patrick Dogh- on the other, Colin Holm, M.P.P., John M'f^eod Alexuiider Robertson foun. Thomson to Mr Dogherty — You reside on Lot 30? . How long? Ten or twelve years. Whom did you under before ? Mr Douse. You left him and went .*»:. :l l! It u III Hi 112 hnSE LAND OOlfHlBBIOK. to Lot 30 1 Tes. Did yon soil your farm 1 No. I did not get a Bhilling for it. How long did you work on the place! 8 years. Did you pay your rent? No, I wai not able. Did you take a l^ase a^ain ? Yea. From whomi Mr Robert Bruoe Stewart. What rent 1 le. an core. Have you paid any ? Yes, by work. What work did you do? T opened, Iji r.iles of road. Was that road any convenience c<» you'solf ? No. Was there any reser- vation of timber in your leuse? Yea, but i got it struck out. [Mr Doghcrcy hero showed iVfi^ Thomsdn another lease which he held for 50 acres.] There is a reservation ia this one, why did you not get it also struck out? I oannot read, and I never knew there was one in it before. There it Is, he can make tram rails on your farm, and all sorts of things. Would you hnve taken the lease if you had known this claaso was in it? No: [would have had it wholly to myself or not at all. Cora. Gray — Did Mr Stewart try to deceive you? Did he toll you the wood was not yours ? Mr DoGBERTr — I understood the wood was included he did not teil what was in the lease. Com. Gray — What do you think your land ia worth? Mr D.— From Ss to 3s Od an acre. Goun. Tbomso.v reads a release for 74 acres of Jandl which was given by Mr Stewart, lie thinks theve should! have been a deed given nstead of a l«ase Mr R. B. Stewart — The reason I did not give a deed is] this: It is customary for agents aod resident proprietor! to charge 303 leas© money. Wo were good friends, and ll said to him. if you g^t a deed [ must charge you SOs fori it. If I give you an instrument which"^ prevents me fromf ooming on you for reni; again, it will cost you nothiogj and you will have that to show Hp- said he wtuld leave! every thing to myself. Coun. Haliburton — Have practical difficultius urweDi from this release? That is tlie qufstion, Com. Gray — This fiiot is pliin, it is a bad course tol pursue, for if that man dies hin cliildren will derive tio| benefit from his freehold title. Cean. Haliburton — We came to receive real not imi aginary evidence. What you say is an occurrence whiohl might happen, but never has happened. Let them shoffi that any tenant htis been turned out on account of suchj dccumentH — that tbeseevilshave been ielt by the people. Mr M'Pheb gives hia evidence— After being on Lot 'i'[ for a few years, Mr Morpeth and Mr Emery, the agent?! oamc with a leuse from Mr Sunvart. They asked bon long I had been there, and proposed to give me a lease! I refused. When they returned I was absent, but thej loft a lease in the presence of ray wife. I being a pool i^SBBI THE LAND OOMMISSIOK. n? ^o. I did not vork on the No, I wai Yes. From mtl U. an What work 18 that road pe any reser- ^ot it struck 8dn another I reservation ruck out 1 I in it before. Arm, and all lease if you uld have bad re you Did as included ; (1 ia worth? acres of land I theve should give rt deed is nt proprieton friends, and 1 1 ge yoa 308 for I vents me from I you nothing,! ie w'.)ulti leav«j icultios arisen bad course toj will derive liol e real not iml 3urrence whiobi Let them showl 3count of 8UCl( by the people, sing on Lot 'i'\ !ry, the agents ht'y asked bovj give me a leasel bsent, but thej I being a poo| man, and ignorant, thought it was better to take it. 1 paid for the lease SOe, and for the plan 58. The number of acres was 56. I paid rent fo Mr Morpeth before Mf Stewart came. After some time had passed, Mr Stewart took a spite at ine, and nothing; would do, but I must leave the land. I consulted an authority, but he told me as I had put my hand into a lion's mouth to take it out as easily as possible. Mr Stewart came vcith a bailiff to dispossess me without intending to allow me anything lor my improvements. Through the influence of one o7 my neighbors he agreed to leave the case to arbitration* but afterwards refused. Finally it was agreed that r should remain two months in the place, and receive jCI2 from Mr Stewart to keep it for him. In short I was turn- ed out without receiving a copper for ray improvements; and I was noc the only one who was thus treated. Ao old gray-headed man was aUo turned out, and another person had his house torn down. I had been offered £20 for my improvements. There is the gentleman, he oaa gay I or no to whut I have said. Mr Stewart— What you have stated are gross false- hoods. A full explanation would give your Excellencies entire satisfaction. The £2 he speaks of were allowed to another tenant for arrears of rent to support his wifot Cora. Hows— Why was ibis man distressed? Mr Stkwart— He was in arrears of rent. \ Com. HowB— How much? Mr S — I do not know. 1 was going to proceed in the usual way, but he preferred going out without any trou- ble or expense. Com. Howe— Were the arrears over Jt'20. Mr S.V— T cannot tell without referring to my books. After some altercation between Mr M-Phee and Mr Ste- wart, in the course of which the former made use of un- becoming language — Com. GRiiY remarked to the (i^ouosel for the tenantry, if you allow this man to use improper language, we will not hear him at all. ' Coun. Thomson — Mr Stewart himself first used disgrace- ful language. Mr Stewaut — T apologise to the Court. Coun. Haliburton— That man has bis remedy in tho Supreme Court. Com. Howe — It is a poor remedy. If it can be shown that the system Ijada to this — turning people out penni- less, tearing down houses, &c., it exhibits its features not very favorably, certainly. It appocirs, however, that theie are not many cases of this kind, and when one does occur, we would like to have it explained away. Coun. Palvsr — You have not Jheard ail about this Lot \ \m^^ Wi mm ill 114 THE LAJHD C(»CIIIS6I0N. in! jet. Ft seems this man was willing to go oat. No power existed to pat bim out except tbroagh tbo Supreoie Ooun. , Cota. Howv-^l woald say on behalf of the man, it ii foolish to maintain that he was not obliged to go oat. They came with the bailiff ; the man not knowing better preferred to go out peaceably. Hon. MrOoLcs — In reference to the Traoadie estate, I may say that I attended a publio meeting of the tenants, and heard their complaints ; one ol the proorietors, Mr y ' M* Donald being present said they were in general correct. I'he term of their leases is from 30 to 40 years, and many of them are about to expire. The rent is Is 6d to 2irM aere on Lots 35 and 36. Id their memorial whiob wa« read by Mr Co lee, they •tated their grie?anoes; short leases, cannot sell the im* provemente of their farms, nor a stick of timber ; are an* able to meet the demands of the proprietor; some w«r« raed.and had judgment given against them ; others gave promissary notes which tbey« foundi they could nut pay; ibmo were imprisoned. and had to give op their farms. They hoped that the rental sysrem would be abolisiied, and that they might be eoabled to purchase their farms at a reasonabie zato. Mr M'DoNALD being present, said he was willing but, another party was unwilling to renew their leases. Mr Michael Lacbt — I first settled o::. 100 acres of land ■%■■'' on this estate. I remained 3 years and fulfilled the oon* ': ditiona of my agreement with the proprietor. On leav- ing it I next took a lease of 50 acres. Sterling money Wa9 mentioned in this lease, but he promieed never to exact it. When 1 took the lease I coula neither fead nor write. When,! refused to sign it, ho said, well Michael, I can not give yon an agreement that will stand without mentioning sterling ; but you can go for any man you please, and [ will state before him, that I shall not exact sterling of you while you live. 1 did so, and signed tb« lease on these conditions. He took the ordinary currency for some time. Several years affer, I went with the rent as usual ; but be refused to take anything except British 4 > sterling. I offered my rent to him at intervals tor two or three years, he refusing to take it. When he thought be bad a bill against me, he sent the Sherifl* who seized some of my property . On the day appointed for the sale many Eeople assembled. They waited till sun-down, then went ome. Between son-down Mid dark tbo Sherifl came. 300 stooks of oats were taken, and 200 of wheat. I ask* «d him how he would put them up-; he answered all in a lump. He did so { one {Mrson |gave a bid ; the Sheriff g»Te another; and ii was jast ||»ing to be knocked down l! ': I. •is; mmm* THE LAND C0MMI8S10K. ii5 »t jC3, when [ gave a bid to the amount of vrhat I owed, tod saved my proper fcj. At that time he was taking from me la 6d. for the etiilling. Gom. RiTCHiB— What do you pay now ? Mr L. — 28 4d an aore— X6 ior 50 acres. He took Is 6d for the shilling for 5 years. 6 months after payine the amount I have already mentioned, 1 was distrained Qpon again, and had to part with my last oow to pay it. This time I was going with the rent to the landlord, and .about 10 miles from Gharlottetown, met the Sheriff eom- iag towards my place. Why, said he, did you not oome Ibeiore? It is onlv now become due said I. It was due last night at 12 o clock said he. Oom. Grat — Did you ever dispute with him. Mr L —-Not any ; only 1 voted contrary to the way he i wished. Mr McDonald— Were you an esohealor f I understood {' on subscribed a 'pertain amount towards sending Oooper ome to ezamioe the titles. Gom. HowB— You had a perfect right Mr Laoey to vote las you pleased, and to subscribe money for that object, if lyou ohowe to do so. I MrLACsr-— The interview between the Sheriff and iiajie was opposite a tavern, and I said to him, oome in and I iwill i»y you the mone^, pay your mileage, and treat you ito the bargain, f will not go into that bouse, said he* IWell said I, here is another on the other side of the road. INo, that would not do either. Weil wait a moment, said ll, till I run in (or the change. As soon as my back was Itarned, he whipped his horse aod drove immediately %» my plaoC) unyoked my two horses which were harrowing, charged me 36s expenses, besides taking the Is 6d instead of Is for the rent. The Sheriff's name was Nantes. Com. Howe— Have you any other personal hardships Ito relate? Mr Lacbt then read the conditions in the memorandum }Fan agreement entered into between himself and Mr 'Donald, and complained that they were veryhard. le also referred to the one ninth Bill stating its object. Oom. HowB— What is your barn worth? Mr LAOBT*^About £10. Gom. HowBr— And your house ? Mr L.— It is a log hut which never had so much as a bhiogle on it. I have not so much as a boy to assist me. Gou. HowB — You are a bard working-man evidently, |iDd in 20 years have you not been able to build yourself better house and barn ? Mr L. — I have not. I once got scantling for a hoaiOt ini was going to put it up, but the proprietor wid to M you need never do it. •www I'-li '■V, m 1 !!;! i 1 II t . ' ';. ' -rti \0 m TAB LAND COMMISSION. Com. Hoirs — Why did he lay that to yoa ? Mr L. — Me was ordortng me ofl his prupertv. Com. HowB— Have you saved much money f Mr L. — Your Honor, it would not hurt your arm to lift it. Oom. HowB— How did you pay your rent ? Mr L. — When ray family grew up, they used to earn a i little wages, and by giving it to me, I often paid my renij in that way. Com CJRAY — What would you give for the freehold ofl your farm ? [ Mr L. — From Ss to 4s an acre, considering all that I have paid already. I can only out half a ton of bay to] the acre. This year T cut 5 acres for one ton. | Coun-HRNSLEV— Does your land run to the Bay / Mr L. — Yes. Coun HaxsLBr— You pay rent for it all 1 Mr L. — [ do. Hon. Mr Coles — ( would ank Mr M' Donald if he is pre-| pared to give a lease now to Mr. Licey ? Mr M'DoMALD— There was an objection made by mjl brother. When I reoe:ve his consent, I will do so. | Mr CoLBS— 1 wished to show that Mr M'Donald ii| not in a position to grant a leasa. Com. Uow^— Did you take any steps to get your bro-| ther's consent 1 Mr M' Donald— ^0. Several other questions were proposed to Mr Laoejj which he answered, but we deem the ioregoing the mo important. .Mr ALBXA.NOB.R Maydgn: — I wish'togive a brief descrip] tion of my caae. In the year 1835 I took a lease of land on thi "JVacadie estate ut Is 6d British Btg. per acre. Ipaid the reiii in curreacy Tor 3 or 4 years. I was on the land before I tooU the lease, and have paid in all for rent about £400. I hmi 40 year lease, and in 15 years it will expire. Com. Hewc. — You say that you have paid £400, what vilii| do^ou no\v set upon your place ? Mr H. — My buildings are worth £300, and the other improT»| inents vv'iich have been put on the place about £360, Com. How B.— You will have paid for this land, then, whilj will come to about £1060, and you will have to give it upi the end of 15 years. Com. Gray. — When did you go on the land i • Mr H. — 'I was born on it. Com. Gray.— You took it with your eyes open i ■ Mr H. — i took it with the expectation that it woald b cheated. ,«. Com. GaA.T.-r-U yoar land good f Mr H. — No, it is W. mm THK LA.ND 00MMI8SION. 117 Com. GBAY.-rl5< your farm an average oC the quality of the lod aroond there? Mr H.^I tiiink it is, Co»). bow do they live .' Mr U.*<^They do, not livo, they aturve. :Gom. Howc.-<*How nrmiry oatal do you get offan aero ?j,, Mr il* — About 16 bushels. ^1^ Com. HowK — How much wheat ? Mr H> — 20 of wheat, we cooHider u very good crop Com. HowE.-x-What doea your grass Und yield ? [jMrH.— -Almost nothingv»^'(u»i :•, ,;«,. , , j Com. BoWE'^ There are targe quantities of oats exported from [the Island, where ure they raised ? ^ i\fr H. — On the good land; there 's'sucli laud in soui^ parts lofthe Island. Com. Gray. — Aa n man acquainted with the country, what lis your opinion in regard to the 500 feet of fishery reserve on ihe Icoast — would it be better to let it be occupied like other )and ? Mr II. — Of course it would. €om. Gray. — What is the fair value of the land i^ ,yotir [neighborhood ? Mr II. — From 3i to 4^ an acre. • Corh- Howe. — Do the people there go a fishing ? Mr H. — Not much; bnt supposing they did, it would le^^sen [the value of the land, for if the young men were to employ [themselves in fishing, whfo would cultivate the farms?- Coa'n. Palmer. — There is a good deal of the land on the [■ccaBt at Tracadie, washed away every year, is there not ? . Mr H. — There is. ' Cunn. Palmer. — How much } flit H. — About 36 foet, by the action of the frost and water. Conn. Palmeh. — I wish your Excellencies to note that fact. Com. Gray. — Is thi* along the sea-shore, or on the Bay? Mr H.— On the Bay. Com. Grav. — And how much then on the sea-shore I Mr H. — It is a aandbVnk along there, and wears awayrvery little. Mr John Haggarty was called upon by Hon. IVIr Coles to give evidence respecting the deception practised by RevJ. M'Donuld, proprietor of part of Tracadie, upon, certain parties who paid him money in Scotland before they emigrated to the Colony. Conn. Hensley — When did you leave Scotland? Mr Hagqarty — In 1830. Mr M'Donald came there about 1827, and promised a numbor of us, if we would pay hiiii the money then, that he would give as land out here at Is an acre for 999 years, Com* Gray — ^^Where was the land ? Mr H.—On Lot 86. Some gave him £20, some 30 ; I ad- vanced «C26 myself, and others gave him us low as £ 10. ' Com. Ur AT — What was the money for ? Mr H. — ^It was to go towards supplying us with horses, cattle. 118 THS LAND OOMMIfidlON. ti' i!ii' 1! . 1 ) :' r i Hh iilMi i i prtviiluM for the fim year, and farms wiili ao oiaeh olaar I M •aoh, and a hoaie. Con. Gkay — How moch clear land ? Mr H — Thev ware to get land in proportion to the ^ mhioh Ihey paid; and a quantity of marih withoot any r«ii all. We aet aail on the 4th of March, 1880, and on the It May landed in Charlottetown. Cora. Gray — How many i Mr H. — 2S0. . And when wo oame here there were noi plaoea for Qf— nothing bat land covered with wooda and iaji •d by foxos. In town we met aettlera from that part o[| oonntry, and they gave as sach an aeconnt of the land tkit] wanted oar money b^ok, bat in vain. Com. Gray — Do yon live on the land now i Mr H — Yas, and for 80 years. He had no money to I provisions, but boaght them on credit and was charged higkl them, consequently oar money was soon taken up. Com. Gray — Did they all remain here 1 Mr II — Some of them went to the United States; and who did not leave,settled, some on Lot 85 and others on Lo(| Com. Gray — Wh;it improvements have you pot oo place i • Mr H. — I have made a considerable clearance, but my iiij light, and I have. had to pot my children oat to service. land in that part has now passed to John R. Boarke, the gr< tyrant and oppressor perhaps io the Colony. M 'Donald] mised that we woald never be distrained upon, '^ut this tji (pointing to Mr Boarke) sent the dheritf after me. Wei your lilxcelloncioA to relieve us from proprietory serfdom. Com. Howu: — You say some of them went to the Uij States, have you heard whether they did well there ? Mr H. — Yes; some of them did very well, and aoquiredli properties. When we nrrived here, there was land for salt Ldt 67 at £25 per 100 acres, and if we could have goli money back from M' Donald, we might havu had free iam that Lot. ' Com. Gray — Could the people ut Tracadie support ih •elves on their land ? Mr 11 — No not without working ut ship-baildtng an^ occupations. Peter O'lTara maUbs some statements respecting the in which he had been treated aboul his land. Coun HbnsIiEY — You say your rent is paid, did youi the money out of the firm ? Mr O'Ha ft A— No, f borrowed it. Cnun. Mensley — How much is your land worth, supp you had an opportunity of purchasing the fee simple ? MrO'IlARA — \ot more than 29' an acre, — it is very bi|| land- But I have been so trniibied with it one way 'and and (hat I woiild almost give h persi^n something to take it oS\ hands. Com. Gray — Pefhap? !VIr Bonrke would like to make ■tatementi. ^ h H TBI l^AND rOMMIBSION. 119 iff J. R. BouiiKB— Mr HHggarty owed,l thiiil<,£29rurr«iil;. |fd biiD, und aboBi £14 wna all that I over i«c«iv«d for tkia I have no doubt but Mr Haggurty will bear me oat io thia jioent. * IfH* — He oall«d opon. oie oooe; I waa making op uioney \\m at the time; bat aa I waa not qaite prepared to meet bia J, ha went and took immediate prooeedinga acainal om. kt that time waa giving new lesaea, and I had told tome of' ^•oanta that there were objeotionablo olaoaea in them* 'thia- Mr Boarke, aad be waa delerminfrd to pemecate me, JTa tparea no man in bia anger. |rBoi;ii KB. called opoa Mr Henaley i« corroborate- hie atate* ia reference to Mr llagarty'a case, aa it had been eo- '. to him. « oon HBNaLET remarked that he waa anable to. alate ex- bow the mitter atood. If JoBir Mot If A OH examined by Coon. Henaley. — On whatt [do yoa live ? On Lot 86. What quantity oC land do yo«' I? 50 acrea. What rent do yoa p^y ? U Haljfax cnr- I pail my rent up antil 1864. In 1866, a writ waa 1 cut againat me, and the aam which I had to pay waa £26 costs. What aort of lund did you live on / Not good. Id you pay your rentoflfit? No. What other way do ■get to pay your rent ? The boya hire oat. What do yoa ; ifl a fair value for the land in your part ? Between 3s und acre, for the wood ia all gone. Woald you be willing to llhat amount for it? Yes, rather than pay rem j)OD. Haliburton — When did yoa get possession of your V M.— About 20 yeara ago. ban. HALiBURTojr — Yoa bought it from one Hughes; bow iidid you pfty him for it? Ir M.— Nearly £30. pan. Palmer — Mr Robei't Bruce Stewart is present by our blion to give evidence if oallod upon, bat by so doing he loot wish to be considered as in any way submitting to the mission, not having signed the agreement for its appointment, pan. Thomson — Mr .Stewart comes hore to make as much I as he can, and still does not recognise the authority of this it. I proteat against his being heard unless ha submits him- Io be examined by us. . ^ , bm. Gray — Mr Stewart has a perfect right to be here. M'lsA AC,, another tenant of the Tracadie estate ex- ked by Coansel Thomson. — What rent do you p!»y ? Is 6d lore. now. From whom did you get tho land? From my fcr. My 'father had an agreement, but it was given up to ilease, and never received buck, nor was a lease obtained. father paid rent for a number of years, and then theagree- was taken away? Yes, and they tried to turn me out. kept me in law for 10 yea^s; and at last they come to greement to giVe^ me a lease at Is fld an aero. They had I actions againstme. 1 oflfered to take a lease on fair terms m. Qb Ay«— Why did liiey wish yoa out of the farm i • ♦S.I'' . - ' ' iT ; ■ '■ ' ■ !■■ ' ■ "l^■ ' * ■, t y.n ^fW K m Hi I'' lil;: V 1 ■i'J 120 «-4 ./« tHBl r.AM> ('OMWisSION. Isaac— Th-^y wrantHd ihn I iird f»t a r.irfii for ih, Mr M Coin. (JaAY.— Are you in nrreurB of rent? Mr MM. — Y^^!^. on" y»»«r. "^'^ roin. r jouri ot will \ » saUsfjj dersar oonditH le^o ato. however, other grpunds for diNoatiNfiction, h biiVtii I bulieve, been hut liightly touched upon by' i e whi> have oomo before you,— equally as forcibly aa *! ,e above atludad to, and which afford the stronMiek h ,008 why the present [jand Tenuree ohoitld be abdUsneif rioce Fidwaru fslabd, when compared with the ne!^ | ing Provincep, must appear to your Bxoellenoloe to oe f \\x\% undor many and great natural disadvantages. .» have no coal, a source of great wealth to somu of f ie,buta groatilruin upf)Q us Already we havo to re- d thou^^iiiids of pounds annually to pay for that neoes- % article. Hundreds of our oldest settlers find it ex- r Ingly dilBoult to obtain firewood, and many have aU • [dji begun to purchat^e coil for fuel. We have na.. 'estone, which wo are, oonnoquently, under the neoei* of importing from Nova Sootia and Njaw Brunswick, ^ h for mechanical and agricultural purposes. It is*/. nd impossible to i^reierve land in this Island in a te of fertility, for any ^eat length of 'time, without A application of Ijme, or some ottier good substStote;!-) has mussel mud, which biU few can procure. Lfcrge ^ ntities of limestone have, therefore, to bo imported burnt for manure, to prevent our soil becoming en-w^ ly ezhdusted, and in a few years tens of thousands of >;• nds annqally will be required to piiy for the oovl and estone thus cbnsfumed. Whilst the neighboring Fro- •• cesaboiind v\iMth Viiluable mino^rals, we are totnlly des- i ute of these. The bnildjng in which your Kxcellenuiea ,; DOW a^aeinbled was erected with stone imp'jrted froia ,i^ ra Scotia. Wti have li;tle or no ihtervivie or raarab r d, whilst' N'oV'V Seotia j>nd New Brunswiok abound- r th iQterTalosaDdtnarisi)68 of itamensa estentauduf io'- Icttlable' value. We have na regular troops to assist oui*| larkets,-— no head quarters lor Her .Majesty's Navy,Jn Ibieh to spend their nioney^-^oo furtitioation codting eir hundreds uf thousands of pounds, and>thcreby, in-^^ easing the wealth) of the surrounding country. Nova \U enjoys ail these advantages, in a very high degrc,c}!.'^ e have no back country, with its interminable forests * foster a large and lucrative lumber trade — (.instance (eimmetise tract of country through which the LU. John , iver and its tributarie.a fluw.) Ours is an isolated , antry fit all seasons, but doub)y so in winter, when we 6 precluded from all access to foreign markets with, our rfMos produoe. B . kin of is this: our agricul,tnri3ts„ instead of ^etloi^.^ , eeholders, have topay absei^tee proprietors an anpuaT^ ental for their farms, I need npt remind your Ezpelleniei^ii ', fthe evils abfleoteeiani ban in^i^ted upon Ireland pr ^ i 122 TUB LAND 00MMI88I0II. 'li .■■»; thil ftland, and that tbe iDhabUiants of the nalgliborioJ Provittoei, whilst anjojingfo many other adyaotagns, poiJ •est Ihii in addition,— 4A«y oton tfu soil thw eultivatt. I Who, [ would reepootfully aak your lUcellenoies, HhiI In equity one-ltnth part of tht right of the man who hj spent the beet years of his life in olearing a farm, brinil ingitinto a state of cultivation and thereby causing it| to nave a real value,— which before it scarcely had,— to| claim and own that farmi A large proportion of ouil settlers aro very poor, with a large accumulation uF at-l Tears of rent hanging over their heads. A fair siimple ofl this class, I would remaric yon have not had before jodI in Cbarlottetown ; for 1 have observed that tbe delega-l tions from several of the townships have been oompostq •Imost exclusively of the most wealthy and independeol of their settlers. One fact in particular that has come within my owd knowledge I feel bound to remark upon, namely, a con- 1 sideraUo number of those largely in arrears for rent havil been iddujed, — I may say compelled. — within the lait I six months, to give their notes of hand for the samej thereby anticipating and evading the action of the pr({ sant Royal Oommiation. From all these eiroumstanoes, I think it will be quital evident to your Excellencies that the sooner the settlsnl in Prince Rdward Island beoomis freeholders the botteTl will it be for them and their posterity : and were tbattv take place tomorrow, even then ibey would labor undti many serious disadvantages, when oompared with th«| .Agrioaltoral populations of the neighboring Protinoees. In addition to the above, it may be remarked, that wsl have to pay our' own Civil List, and have little or no Gov* ernment Lands over and above khoee recently purohasod from the proprietors. Ten years since, we were aifferentij| «iroumstanoed in both these respects. Our yoong moo, too, are continnall ; leaving the Colony, ohiefly on ao- count of the pe^nH' one leasehold land tenure whiob prevails here. Your Bonorable Court is, I presume, a Court of Equity. The British Government will be as much bound by its award as either the proprietors or the tenantry; and as the British Govftniment have inflicted upon tfao Island 80 grievous a wrong, and made so fatal a mistake, I if tion wliich may be awarded to the proprietors by jour •Exoenenoies? It would not cost them one-fifkieth part of tho snm paid by tbem tQ emancipate the sable sons of Aft-ioa THK LAND COMMISSION 123 ^bo ware held in bondage in the West Tndia Iilande ; id I would respeotfuUj inbmii, for your fisoellooaiee' roftterions ooDiideraiion, whether or not it wouH be l|bt, under all the oiroumstanoes, to saddle this poor 'oloDY with 1119 full price of iti own redemiition. In rail oonfldenoe or tho reoitude of your aeoieiou. I remain, Your Bxoellenciee* Moit obedient Servant, GBORGE BE6R, M.P.P. Con* RiTCHiB — What district do yoa rt.preient? SlrBBBR— I represent Charlotietown at (ireaant, bat I for- n«rly represeDtedl.ots 84, 24, 2S, &o. Com* RiTCHiB — What ia ihs value of ;he land vrhioh be- 10 the GoTerninent on the Worrell Estate? Ir B> — It is not worth so mach aa uome other landa in the polony. The land on Lots 88 and 84, for example^, is more disable, because of a better qaalily, and aitaate nearer the irket of CharlottetowD. Com. HowB — Isihe Worrell Estate better or worse landthaa Pneadie. Mr B. — I think it ia fully as good Con. RiTCHiB— What is tflte state of agricnltore on the ilind? Mr B. — In geeeral it is in n backward state, though it is ira- ring. Com. Grat — la there not some advantage derived from the ihsriesf Mr B. — 1 do not think they will ever benefit the Colony* rbs people wonid do better by attending to their farms. Con. G]iA.r — What is your opinion about the ftshiry r«- iirvssf Mr B.— ^I think to leave them nnoecapied would be a great leane to the country. They should remain in private proper- Ities, and people'a land on the eoaat be left lo ran down to the lihore. Com. HowB — Is the land here more difficult to keep in heart Itkan in Nova Scotia? Mr B.— 1 think it is. v Com. HowB — Will land here raise 2 tona of hay to the acre? Mr B. — It will, with very high cultivation. Coun. Ham BURTON — Is the Island not better adapted for I sheep than Nova Scotia? Mr B. — Probably it is, owing to the natural grass. Coun. HAiiiBURTOM — Also for roots too, aa turnips? Mr B. — Yes, it may, with very high cultivation. Patrick Wyitnb, one of the delegates from Lot 3 1 , ea- I amuiied by Conn. Hensley — Who ia the present owner of the |fcrt of the Township en which you reside? Mr Douse. Are foa a tennnt or freeholder? I can scarcely state what I am; I ute a lease, but it will run out within three years. Have yo« he lease in yoar own name? Yes: I took it in 1848, and it ia ik 1 i- ' t ' 1 i 1 : <\ i: i!:t ( 'i' , I,! ■ 11 IS 'i: ■' ' 1 I il' ill 124 THE LAND COMMISSION. fcr a term of 2t years. What rent do you pay? £3 X2a. cat-' reacy for 40 acre^. When yoa took ihe land wua it in a wilder-. neaa iuring tho term, at 80a nn acre; bat IMr Douse is charging novt' in some cases £2 13a an acre. Donald M'Kinnon paid j£l50 for 50 acres. Com. Howe — Thosu who are paying this amount, did they make the money out of the land? Mr VV. — No: ti|i8 man whom I mentidned got iliu money ia New Brunswick. ' Com. Howe — Will he be .abietotake this money outof Ida farm? Mr W—^ever, though he live as old as Methuselah. Com. Howe — Doe;i the fact of Lot 31 being near Charlotte- ' town give it any additioiial value? Mr W. — No, 1 think not, aa it. js too fiir to draw wood to Com. Haw E — Do you thii)k it would pay yon to give £150 for. the (ee simple of your firm? .^Ir W. — It would be bolter to live on tlie interest of the money, only a person must have a home. Com HowE — SaiR what you think would be a fair pr^ce,for the land over the Loi? ;j Mr W — I think, rather tlian «iaave their farms the people would be willing to pay the price iit which the (jovernment are seiltng their laiuis. The above are only a few uf the questions proposed to Mr Wynne, but we deem them tho most important, Counsel Hensley introdoced a delegation from Lc'.^S aiid read their mamorial. It required among other things that,,thc titles should be inquired inid, and B0me .I'ate fixed i^pon tut ;he •..lt.'»d. ■ i .; , 1,..,. , Mr Peter Robertson one of tlie delegates mak^^ a /tiW statements. — 1 suppose there is scarcely a Township on the Island which has so many ownetisatf Lot 48; now they came by the and I cannot tell. There was a meeting held on, the Lot a few days ago which was very well attended. The desire of , s^me of those present appeared to be to get the back rents taken off, and tha rent reduced, and of others to have an opportunity, of pur- chasing iheir land at a reasonable price, say that which was given for the Selkirk estate, I l(i!d them that it was it) tfce .CommiasionersVpower to give them time tq pay if they vvould purchase; but some of them said they wpuld rather have the back rents taken off, and a rduUction of rent. Com Howe — Is the quality of the land on that Lot good? Mr 11. — Pretty good ia general Com Gray — Vou say that the Selkirk estate rate of sale would be a fair sum to pay for it? Mr R. — They thought so. Com Howe — That is not the rate they would be able to ob- tain it for ? i Mr R. — They are willing to pay fair charges for working ex- penaes. There ia a grievance which I, as well as others, have to-complain of, that is, the rise of rent. When I took roy land I understood the rent was not to rise. many think other Scarce their worth Lot u( Cor Mr could THE IT.A'NI) COMMISSION/ '" lUdSil ia. cnr<' wilder- >e in the Douse is Kianon lid they oney b lis fnrm? urlolte- wood to ve £150 >8t of the price for e people iment are que»tion8 rnportant, c;,^S and that, the 9 a for 't,be ke^ a ftiw lip on the me by the Cot a few f . s^uie of II oiT, and Ly.pf pur- hich was 'as it) tbe oy would have the 'ood? e of sate )le to ob- trking ex- lers, nave L rpj land Com (iiiAY — It 13 tl very diflSoult matter, whtm «i man ba« made flirt agrertmont, to relieve hiin from it; tun perlnips wm might d.o away with the rentalcystem a ltog;clt)Hr. Mr K. — As a general rule, the tenanls on cur Lot would ra> ther purchase than pay rent. Adjourned till 10 o'clock to-mi>rrpY». ■iM TufesPAY, Sept. 18. Won. i\lr (]!ole9 — I would direct your Kxcellencics' attention » to (he fact, that a cortsidernbie' part of the land cluimed by^* the -^ proprietors of thiii Colony was eocured to the Loyalists.^ Th6re wasaii order in Conncil lo have a Ofcrlain quantity. <)f.^, land given tJp to them on certain Townships. , „ \^/- .^,^ Com. Ritchie — If iho land was not ii(3ti^ally giveq ,^6 'jjiif^^j* loyalista, it would fall back to the proprietoi-«. , , ■• .• Couii. Halliburton— 1 preaunjo this Court jp not going to coft- sider every individual caseiirith reaped to thy loyalials,., J^ would be merely courtesy on iho jtart of th(! propiiefo' s to^v*"©!^ Bent that this matter be taken up at all,, j ; j ,-. i.*/o'*< ivf ' J Com Gray — We will lay down a general -rujejw'e will p^ go into individual caiwes. i rn- » .,? Hon* Mr Coles— Oh Lot 30, there are some 20 or $,0:por!i9n» settled on loyalist hnd, whose .cade lia4,nvv.erj beon fully brought before you. • •■ . . ui, irM":! mf^h r) n;>^.,' It wa* agreedthat th« Co,un8el«hould'investiante tliijumtier, .. and come to some arranguntent as to when I ho ioyaiist^^clai^^ should be 'hearduov v*v;,*' ft- .. •! Coun. llensley then informed, the Couft that, ther > ft wa» ngresi that as th» CotamiesioneM.))' d but un hour^r iv^O to sit before- leaving for Georgetown that oue dvl>ii^ vn\jf ^ freni'each towhship ahouUl be exaioined. , * « ,v ; si tielegaiion from T.ot 32— Coun Hensloy Vend tbeir rnet|ioria4»./ m^ examined John H'odgsoir.-— How long have you I'ved on tlie*;- Lot? !7 years/ VVlio is vour landlord ? feir'S:uiioe! Canard. ' ar Lot? 17 years." Who ia y( WhaVIs ine term of your lease? 999 years. What rent do. you pay ?' Is an acre. ■ What did you pay for the iuiprovement*.^ of your furni ? £^00, How many acres clear land ? About 80. ji Is your root, paid? ^here are about 2 years' rent due on the land. You are ac()uainted wiib thitt part of the towrtship ia'. vvhich you reside, from your knowledge, can yon say whether many of the' tenant.s*' there are in'arrears ? • Not many, i^o you think yoil can pay your rent easily ? Never otF my farm ; I have'. other means besides it. Could you live by farming solely ? ^ Scarcely. I suppose the people thore would like to buy dot their land ? It is their wish. Whttdo ypu think your land is worth? About 10s an acre; there may be other parts of -the . Lot uot worth so much. i Com.. Howe — Could you sell your improvemonta to-morrow ? ,. Mr fitjdgson-*-! have aiivertiwd to sell two or three tiiaee, but could not. \ 186 THI LAND 00MM18SI0N. ! »* . .lU I Vii Hi- ll. m Coan. Heniley — Are the young men lea?ing that Lot i Mr H.— >YeB, nearly all the farmeri* Bona are going away. Conn. Heniley — From what eaaso i , Mr H .—From the expenses of rent» &o. I offered tny ion the homestead, and ha woald not take it. Mr Hooper states that he pays rent for the land on which Mil- ton Charch is baill. He.aaked Mr Peters, when he was agent» to give the land free; bat hi would not consent. Donald M'Fadyen, from the Soath end of the Lot, briefly ex- amined by Coansel Hensley. — HcW long have you lived tAere i Abent 40 years. Have yon had any trouble with youff landi Some 85 years ago I was distrained apon. I could get no per- son to plead my c^se in court; I tried old Mr Palmer, and he would not. Did you ever take a lease ? No, I never put my 'hand to a lease. Do yon pay rent. Yes, I have to pay rent. To whom do yon pay ?, To Mr De Blois. Com. Gray — How long have you paid rent? Mr M-? HKN8L9Y — When your Exeellenciee opened your '^r St. Eleanor's, you stated the objects of your intes Oa-- tigt»t> I i perhaps it may be also necessary to do so here. Conut. CtAY then tnade u statement similar to that gifen by him at St Eleanor's. Coun. Hbnslet here called two delegations te appear before the Court, one from Lot 46, viz.: Messrs. Johi^ Stewart and Jamea Robertson ; and the other from Lot 47. consisting of Messrs. Alexander Soott, John Stewart, aha James Robertson ; and then read the memorial from Lot 47. In this memorial reference was made to the many vronj^s which the tenants on that Township had suffered at : e hands of the proprietor. It stated that they were timigrants who oamefrom Perthshire, Scotland, in the year 1808 under the leadership of Jamea Robertson, and (hfU M . I ■■■: i i!,: > I ^i iiiM 1 ■It, ■' ; if ,; ; • : It Mi'. 12^1 TllR LA(NI) C03AMKSlON,f deecendantfl. On account of llobertson not fulfiliin* lil^ engagetuants, the. property reverted to the ori^^inal owner, with the excoptiou of a traoB cuotirmed to Mr MoGragor, which hiH riiiiily still retain Ii ii lui'leriit'ood tjii^t thft otilihing but lo^. id soonee of distrowB. 'I'lie irt«moriali«ita next stated tht UHcultiea to whicl> ifiey woio subjected for want ofrotifls. ifcc., and said that the fruits i>f iheir lahor went to satisfy the unju.st demands of th(5 clijiujiints, .Many qf the''ieaants aggrieved at the thou-^ht of Irivinji; t'> p;iy a»« rears of rent, loft the Country und went to C.tn»»dii. ThesA arrears amounted to X lOOO b«! wt>(}ri 20 individuals.' Others byjai^nding qmi boldly,, hold, their clainis by iidverse posh session. With all confidenoe tue lijin.'j orialista, submitted their qause to. t\\^ (jomii\ission^!rs Mff,fScOTT examined bjf C)un.lJ^>-.si,i5V'— You live i)n Lot 47, Mr. Seott ? Yes. Are you a leasehol^^er ? 'I only hold an,a rent My father iiv' d on the land.^l.je;irB be/'o.re I ^o' it JL; bus betjn dead 5 years. From what you heard your father say, vvas the faroi in a wilderness state i^herr he took it? Yes. How iwany'ttcteB have you now clear? Forty. ^Vljy did you take an agree- ment?., Thaagertt tjireateiicd to bri'ng an aotion' against ine, and T Was not aWar'e there was riny law to protect mo. Ypu^settled, wfthout takinn; an advice? Yes* How rauoh are you in arrears? £20. Tithe land <»en«raUy {r<>oK129 ligbel,, I suppose t Yea. How oftert do yoii gettU with - |d<«J proprietor ? Onco tt year. ' iuU ivti Coun. Palmer ODss-exHuiinefl Mr. Scott — ITow *'ftfucli rent doea Mr. Stowart receive there? Over £100 !• think. How muuh liind has he? Xhout 2000 nores. When he promised to build a chupefl, &o., was he fo Wo these things without the people paying their rentt . 1 do not knovi'. lie promised to retain lOOOf itores, and rpukd h furm of it fcrliis soDJ und take the labor of tiie tenants upon it for their reni. Were these the terms of your agreement ? No. Com. Grav — lie means tosa^ that thes^ were the fttdu- cements held out to th6m to s\gu the ngreeraents.'' *''' Coun Palmer— Do you say yod were roolishly'itiif^'ced to 6i{j;n the agreement? ' Mr. Scott— I think so. < ... Coun. Palmer — Is that an idea of your own, or did you think it would save ypu trouble and expense — insbort tliat ould cFaim it by possession 1 ' i you coui ^ Mr. S — Yes. Coun. Palmer — Are you aware that you could not do that, his father being absent? " «'J '' ''Tj Com. Gr.\y — That is a peculiar grievance. If an absen- tee gets a 1000 acres under false pretences,, and doeEh not improve the land, but allows British subjects to drift in upon it, though the lavv does not give them legal titles to what they occupy, yet it is a strong case. Mr. John Stewart examined by Coun. Palmer — Is it trne.'Mr. Stewart, that it has been difficult to ge't a process served in your part of the Country ? I think not. Has violence been offered to the Sheriff? Not in our district, I think ; but I know the people hide from him. Do you know of any one stabbing the Sheriff? No. Give the Court general information now — it was on the Lot? That IS nothing to tlie parties whom I represent. But state, was not sometliing dcino to the Sheriff's horse ? Yes; his tail was taken off. \Va8 the man stabbed? I believe so. You havano doubt about it? I have heard of it. t>o you know of any rescues of men who were taken by the Sheriff? I heard one man got clear some way. I ask you, is it an easy matter to get a man our. of that Township? There are inbtanoes of men being taken. Were they taken to trial on the rent qiieption ? They have been taken on that 8Core. Coan. IteNSLBV — Do you know who cut the tail off the Sheriff's horse ? Mr. S.— No. Ooun. HxNSLS^ —I suppose it might have been the pro- prietor for aught yuu can tell, ' '^ Mr, S.— Yes, it might. ! ^■'i>. .. ' . ^ SISi>i )!(' K i|t!i I H fili!' i m 130 Tm LAND OOMllISSIOir. Mr. OooPBM, M. P.P., here wished to AdJrem tho Oourt, but the Oounnisiionere were unwilling to hear any gentle- maa until ihej had beard direotlj frbin the tenahte tbemeelfee Mr. J. Stewart questioned by Oom. Howa— Would ypu bate fettled upon that land. Mr. Stewart, if yon tboaght the proprietor wan going to violate all hispromiiiee to you? I would not. We would not have consented to pay rent without reoeiving some of the advantages which were pro* mieed us. We expected in takinz our agreementa that, by bis fulfilling bia promises, it would be easy for us to pay our rent. How oanie you to go to the place } The old setr tiers who had left home, brought me there. I left ihe old coantry. intending to go to Canada \ but when I arrived this far, I had nothing to carry me farther. J)id you un> derstand at that time who owned the land? No: we thought Mr. Robertson might be the owner. Still you be- lieved it belonged to somebody? Oerialnly. (Toun. Thompson — It appears old Mr. Stewart did not keep hie wurd with you, nor has his huos : can you distin- guish between the sin of shaving a burse's tail and viola* ting a promise / (Laughter.) How much could you pay for the fee simple of your farms ? Mr. Stbwart — I do not know ; we are in arrears, per« baps i:25 or jCSO. Com. HowB -Krtve you trfed to pay your rent? Mr. S.— Yes. Com*. Howe — Did Mr. Stewart make you pay thearrears when you took tha agreement? Mr. S.— A period elapsed after tho agreement wai; sign- ed before payment whs demanded. Com. Gray— Mr. Stewart appears to have boen content at firsx with obtaining nn aoknovvledgment of title. Coun. Thompson — Have you been able to pay your rent and live. . Mr. S.— No., Sir. Coun Thompson — Have you any fisheries ? Mr. S. — Very little. An osteosive sand-bank at ^he mouth of our harbour is the great obstacle. We live in a very poor part of the countrj^. Com. HowK— What is wilderness land worth ? Mr. S.— I think it would bj hi>ih at 23. 6d. an acre. Com. HowB — Supposing your arrears swept nway, and that you were allowed time to pay, withlnterest, what onghfr you tu give for the fee simple of your farms ? Mr. S— I think about X*30 for the lOO acres Coun. Palmer — Are you aware that the people there have objections to pay honest debts besides the rents? I do not mean persons living in your own neighborhood— -but . 1 1 • • ' ' I if 1 1, 1; ' . I ■| 51 ilyi.,- THB LAND OOMMIflBIOll. 131 «re there not iodividuale in that part of the ooantry who boMt the eberiff oannot take then ? Mr 8.— I do not know. Conn. Palmejr<>— Do yoa not know that there are aeveral pei^ aoDt in that part whom theaheriff cannot take, and that tney openly deelare it ? Mr S.-*-Yoa may qneition the aheriflT hinfiielf. Ceon. Henale^ then read a memorial from Lot 46. Aa thia memorial wai aimibr to a great many otbera laid before the CoRimiasion, it will be annecessary to mention the different painta which it embraced. Mr Chariei M'Bnobren, Edward Campbell, and Neil M'Phee, the deputation from that part of Lot 46, claimed by dir Samuel Canard, &o., being called by / Coon. Henaley, appeared before tho Conrt. Coon. Henaley to a Mr M*Neill, who deaired to make aome lUloments — You cam,e from the north aide of the laiandf Yea. Mr De Bloia ii yonr agent ? Yea. Do yon hold* a- teaae I No. Do yoa pay rent ? No. Mr De Bloia— I beg Mr M'NeilPa pardon, here ia hiaaccoant. Mr M'Neill— I waa served with a writ and had to pay jC27» eosts and all. The shefiflTcame and diatrained upon one. Coun. Henaley — You sabmitted to the diitreai warrapt. Mr M*Neill~Ye8, but have paid nothing aince. Com. Howe — These distraints and distreasea appear to so out with great facility here. Are sheriffs sent oot to distrain withoat legal pro<*eedings having first been taken ' Coun. tiensley — To distrain upon an individual who had not acknowledged the title of the proprietor, would be illegal. Com. Howe — Suppose I am a proprietor, or assume that I claim a piece of land, if I find a man upon it who has not at- torned, nor .acknowledged my title, can I put a process into the ' hands of the sheriff which will give him power to seize that man's property without th^decision nPn Court of law i Conn. Painter — Not legally; but mercliunts do things of «hia kind as well as proprietors. Com. Howe — Such power is an engine of terror. Com. Ritchie — 1'here is no foundation for it in law; every man who does eo, does it at his peril ? Coun. Palmer — Certainly. Com. Gray — The law may be abused in other places as well as here. Mr M'Neill further questiqMed by Coun. Hensley — How long were you on the land before this occurred. ? 5 years. Yon went On it of your own accord ? Mr Gdul gave me leave. What did you pay for your lease ? 408 N. S. currency; I was Id Nova Scotia at the time, and sent the money to pay for it, bat .Mr Gaul died before I got the lease; I, however, did not receive my money back. Did you ask Mr De Bloia for one ? I did, but he refused to give me one unless I paid him £?9 of back rent. I told him I cenid not pay it. Conn. Palmer— I think the statements of these people are calculated to leave a wrong impreasien on your Excellenciea' minds. lifr j 1 1 1 i ^ t 1 1 t I ■ m iei32 T »» i,^ tt . gi)4!Wi#A<^N (MNt ('.^frt;4|lowe^-^(t may, be ibat.this gentluiifiaii Ja oud "ctiof r^litly, but lie has not expUinad that Cun^rd lias t^Ap+Ht>i>K4Ppmy74ars have yoik been.theris^ fttft. Mr. McNeill nr7,, - . . fnit • Cian. i4enatejr<»-l|aw much rent do yoa pay^ lo j^Mr iIfN«illnnotteU. /; ■.■ \ r' I CoD)..H«f(v't:— Ifi itttoaaible vpu cttpupt.lell. WMi yoMr liabil ties are? . ,),■ ; (.,..,.. t>4inv0fliw:(Griiy-r''l'bi4 ta soi^iethiqg wfi canrtot | the reitof f thif place! the wow vii h ii kJiMMtikm liiiit ■.-■.-^-■':-r'3---".Tf->-7'- — ^.'.'.J,'? IWSPKr-j 134 TBI LAMO OOVM IHtOlf. 4tH90f ttom Lau 44 ••i 4ft. IJ« ^Mtatt^ m mimmmI. Wi wida sMM ftMral aiaiMMiU, uT wIimIi «• |if« ilw iiU«wi«|:— Yo«t EiMll«Mt««. I liavt m privau owipltiili !• I«f k9hn fm. I eo«« i» •••H mom i»(M«tliM ««► •tnisf iIm raUiiiiM wliieh tiiM ktiw«t« laa4UN aaJ immi. Masf fMn afo I aMiM io iIm f rat* «o«4a, aii^ itera i« Ma«Mi viih vikcra •t^ritfiead iImm tfiSaslilM m4 liaH- aki^ laei^Ml I* aMk a aaodc ol lila. i i« w f ili« Tovttliip. Of MirM ih« pruprietur ••• btncftiitil bj uvr cniffpritt. for is aM^ lloo lo itit itnt. ba racaivcd 40«. Air tvcrf IrftM vhicli k» grioltd. Wt arrcitJ isi'la. ooi in Hianiy af e9urM,k(il lb* f roprMlor rraJarftl ua no aaaiaiaiic*. Wa haft fMii4 ilitl iHo tipoff iiion of train wiihottl being grouid haa inj«ftd ibisaounirf fur many jreara. CofB. Ilowi— la Ilia cipuriaiioN uf uogroaiwl eorn Ifijiirl* •aa 10 liiia iaianu * Mr. McG — I i»>infc it earuiolw it, for ika fraighi aUotU btlfih«proAi. Tlia fraighl of • boabal of oaia it ncarli qaal (a ih« fioiphl uf a buabal of wkaak. Com. Gaav— You iliiok ii would bo boiltr lo grlstf op llto ooit tad laka tha maal lo naihai f Mr. McO.— I do. Uoia. UtAV— 'Cvold yna hata aaitlod upon thio Itod tad ■adt ■ living ool uf ii witboul aof uihcr ncont V Mr. McQ.-No. Com. Gaav— You bad othar neanal Mr. McCf .— Ceitaiiily. ur 1 would Itava aiartod long ago. I baliava no luaii un rarih cuuU laako a living anluljf oul of tba lanJ liara. Com. Uray— Wuttid iltv irnania not da baiitr if iba| bad tmaller farm*? Mr. Mcii — Nil ; a man tiiuat pri«cura fliewood and ffr railaufflia farm. llai ethauaird. Tba iiade in timbar ia now dona on ihia lalaiid, au wo muat look upon iho aoaniry aolalf fa an igrirulioral point of viaw. ] boliava maeb of tba land oliicii ia held in fea aimpta l«are, waa purobaaod dur* IrtZ *••- ••'*• P'"* •'•^•*«'r •••• *i»fd«». ■•••* «»brn Miipbuilding waa earned un aumcwliai manaivaijf. ftati^i ly« coaaidor* abta inonay baa htcu (oadu by i apuriliig jani|ar ali;rpoia and knaaa. Wbila (beaa up|Nirluniliea uf making tumoihing Wara available, iffuamtpaid il;eir rrnit, and aomo purebaacd fraahnlda ; btti aince ihe piMipla bavo been lefi tu dtpand on Iba agrieultural rpfmirera of tba cuuntry, back rcnia bava an- eamulaiad. , Com. (jBat— Uelweaa loaa and man, wbai wuakl yott Ibinb a fair priro for ib« lai<«!« of Ihia Itlnnd? Mr. McG. — X'20 per hundred aitrea. wi»b lima to pay^ aay 5 oc 10 yeara. 1 aia acquainted with the maana of iba paupla in tba country, ar.d am not at all an iitUftcaicd parly, an my . aiaiemaata raai bn lolied no. I acted a lung tima in oppnai* lion to ttia toiiantrr. and bave on itial account inoarrad ao ipach ndiatn that parbapa I will navar rctticva my *«rmar poaiiiun. ^ ;Gon|. (^Af •— Na cpaoir} can |rnapar whara rigfiia pf pro* r ,1 '' i: i 16 Ttti 11110 I tor not twtro of any. Obm. Rnvoit— What ntdrk doeo 000 of your farmtfogisa* nrllvkeopf m. McO— • oont. f horaee, a km head of yoang eINio, abeep? Cmti t l o wi h eotti^ m ihit pbMo, I ptMfd o otitla- riar ':'. ■ I ''■ Hi I J ■ I, fi'l ■Ml •Mmi Nf w ^tUi, vKm* i mw ft«« ^tlM» Mi i«9«. ff*w4 MMk jwrA, aii4 liMMglii it eoMrwiad lifvrablf villi ni««iv oih«r p«f«iii»« 99 ih» 1*Im»4 ; »H*t It ilit cmm W l>> pm y»fiiy Hite f Mr Tnom Af OwBR, iIm r«pt«f«nUlii» of thai Dbttiol •■»- w«n— Tb« ptraoia wIm waaty with Iba Ifnited States haa baea in oparation, wa hata baao viaiiod by Ameriean iradara. who parehaaa prodaea; and ih» mokt nf tha inonoy i«aid hr land a aaeranivnl, cornea from that ooareo. 'l*hia ahowa tiie difflcolty of inakiog a caah payonaat bare, no iiiatler hntt trifliaf tha aiuoaot. Coaa. Palmbe— How oAtahava yoa baoe i« tba Ilvrib pari aflhialalandr Mr ll'G.— Nov very oftan. Coaa. PALMca— tiew Ui North of CharloUttawa hara ia« baaa i Mr .M*G.— to or <0 milao. Coua. pALaasR— Aad da yoa gita inforoialiaa raapaatia| coantriaa you have caver a«ea r Mr M*G.>-1 Goafioa toy raioaika to a eoaairy arbieb I bava aaaa. Caan. PAi.Maa'-4Iow long ia it aiaea yoa wara 40 alaa Naith of CiMrlottatoara ? Mr M*Ci.—7 or 8 yeara baea alapaad. Coaa. PALMaa— 'Ware voa atac al iba Nartb Cast t NrM'G.^Na. Com. If owit— Yoa ara aeqaaiatad wUb aboat | of tba lalaa^ liMpoaa? Mr M'G.— I am. aad I thiah ibal ia aafficlaat to ^a4ga by, aa ibia lafaad ia not S9 vary af teaaive. Wbaa I araa a yoang aiaa, I caald baea ran Gram ona aad uf il ta tba other ia a day and a bait (Laaghter.) OaiiSOA'tieif from L^t At— Thomaa Owan M.P.P.. MaaaiA. Oaaald Slawart, John 8ta«vart. Gaofga Moar.and Jaiuaa Daarar appear baToro Iha Commiaaiaa* Ml OwsM addraaaaa tle9 Coart— Aa tba ehairmaa af a OMat- log wlucb waa ealicd in tba diatrict from which wa cama, 1 wiib tha gaailaman who accompany moi wara appoia:ad ta appear be- Ibra thia iiaa. 0»«rt» aad giva avidaaea raapecliag the diapaiaa arbiab baea triaaa belwaan bndlord aad U^^aat, Tawaabif It* yaar BaaaWiartM, b wiAia • fciilaa af d from tho pioportv. X8 or £10 hata Wla pifd by aoma tattiarc on tho j^lalville OHtate, knd olhoro have been throaiooail (or iha laat SO years, bat alwayagoteflT with aofi wordi to Mr Murpoth tho agent. Mr Duarko, laaoed ptMneana agitnat ft itr peraona t«> attend the Court at (jeorgo* lowo, ia October l«4|. Homo of these attorned, bot othora #md nut, and retained Mr Itonaley aa their attorney. Thaao eipoct^d their caeo woald hive eonio on nt tho 5farch Coart, lit It did not; nnr wiia it culled nt iho filiowing' term of tba Coert hold in Jely Thny, thrri>r*tri>, )Mf<>r from thii that the daimaiita |Maaosa no legsl titlea to the land. Kvea ihoao wbo have attuned, and paid rant, balievn, aa Mr Cooper aaya, that t%a ** proprietgre aio aaarpara.** 17 |Kiy reni, 117 go aeot frao. §6nM yoara ago, a Mr Weir claimed a part of the naigbboriog Townohio, I.M 52, aad wriuad aokviai of the toitiera. l1ioy waffo brmight to Coart fira or sit timae, bot nothing waa dono. Cdoi. Gray— What did ho ropreaeot himaair to bo ? Mr OwBN— A proprietor. Somethiai of tho aama kind haa lately occaired on thq adjoining Lot; hat iho poopfo are of opialon tlil tha aaita io ihia eaaa alao, vrlH die a nataral death. On tho Selkirk proparty. the aettleri are deairoaa of purchaalng . aa they draad the thought of being left at the merry uf Iha pro. prietor. The twj aama of a proeafca alarma them, and tba afgbt of a aherifl ia atmoat en:iagh to frighten them to death, l^otn. OiiAy— 1*ha Commiaaionara ara of opiaion thai iha p««pla af thia laUnd era not pariUI la law. ' J$9 Owan—TSit Tawathip haa aarir btaa aoj iai|ira?a4 b| 111. i'i lilt fliofiitltra wh« otoim ii. TIm rmU of«i«4 mm% fiftf k—d kf limSar awli«r». tad nibieqNiiiiy e#rri«4 tkvovgh to iliitMSt pU«M «ad«r lb« K«a4 Coai|»MMiiM AcU « Com lluw Bellow 4i4 iM propriacom i«l aff wIUmii p«|lBf llMir tlMr* or Um tapMMt f Mr Onum—l 40 mi hnoMr. Notbiag «l ImoI wts pskl liy Lsril |l*^v*ll*> A" tH« rrad rmr.int tHroa^h hit par^ of ih« L#« wM aitdt by (h« #tti«t« labor or iho man eniplojred it n^ falhtr*a ah ip jatrf. lli'm yaar 4,900 anraa on iIm Townabip b«f • boaa proelaimad for arraora of land aMMamaol. Cmh. Howb — Than ih« proprivtora did not aailol in mahiac •■V oTlhaaa ronda, wliich thay w«ra raqoirad tn do bv lawf Mr OwBir— No: tho pOApio mtdo ihom thomaalTOo. Tli* Grand Klvor Rood, and m i'otor'a Kond, wnro opond ondof iho Read Componaation Aoi. Thara sra 9 or 10 oaaoo af ojoetMonit oomoinneod by iho afonl of Lord Moivill^t now ponding. Com <ii lo nndoratand thni ^bn hnn wrillan fur it, but it b.ia not vat arrived. Kt OwsM — Tha raiih uf iho lonanta in f«nrd Malvilla'a titin io ahakon. Whan an agent auaa, tha paupio eipact ho ia praparod to go right tbrongh witii iho enao. Mr DovnsB— Thof will And ibat wo ara praparod to provn OBff tlilt. Com RiTCHiK— Tbn peopio may ho ondor a wrong lmprotf> aion on tho point of proving titlaa. Fraqoently tha oiponao tfT doing ao, may Im morn than tkn valno of tho ront. * Mr OwBif—- Wn hnvo aoon ao many iniinnean nf avinf. wktra no action haa bnan taken on the eaaoo, that wn am did* paaad to think tho titloo are nil alike. v. Com. UiTCHiB— Tho proprietor by going to lnw»indieM«a hia wiilingnoaa to prove bia title. Tke lenanla any to him "prove ii,** and if he daaa not, tbejr have aome roaa<»n to etn- elndo that it ia not ynod. Cbn;«. TMoaiaoir-' Fnrniahiag an abalraot of titleo oontd atl ia' olvn oiponao. Jom. RiTCiiia -A eonaiiorabto time might ba rnqtirod i^ preparo it Mr OwBir— The land on f^ot 6S ia net worth tho rent de- manded for it. I think it in aa favorably aitnated (00, with tkn eieeptioo of Lot 69, ae any Townahip in the Connly. Tkn pnnpin have ootwitbniandlng boon enable to pny their rente aC thair farma. The auii in ligbi end aandy. The eboeaea of ma- nnrn* too, onnaea a nocoaany fur having morn land clonred thna tkny need tn enltivatn. I know farmnra who have not, oaring to a failare of tha crop, threahcd 10 knahola of wheat in thnynif. Tkie yonr, I think, tlin oat erop in ibo ooaaty will not avnungn mprn thnn 20 bnahala to tkt aero. Mr; lUwa— Tkna H would Ink* . ik«.r(a are nald for, Uiora wooM aaem to bo no inaiiry in iha cnuutry at ail. Mr. O.— >Peopl6 who uay icoi haro du ooi pay il olT ilicir ftriM TuttOtf man go osliing. and from ihia auurcj niiicb «if il ia dacitad, aa aUo Irum alupbuilding, and iabuoring i^raaii ia iba Uoiud Siaita and uikar pAaeaa. Hia paopla «roand hara art a«« aooooBioal at ihoat tn atbar pant of iht klltd. tod wban ility aiait iliat ihay aannti pa? their «%nt limfn Mitt albera art in a aimilar pamiioo. rarva in iliit ptre do not ehanga handa frnqotiMlf . A farm of 180 atrta, A It. tt tOft f%»g, ot tbt Uatff eio«rn Ro» ft milca iliaianl ^wm ••leHwn, »nd mJy one mi?c U.-m one the brai ahlp- ■ifit tla^ta in iha Itfund, and ahnut 4 milea Trure tlia etw- traled Mumagut Dridgf*. vrilh 50 acrta clear, having • btrn ^Hk i«50, and n praitT good dwcftinii h«iuaa,aatd for i>*7)0, I naoibt ago TUa luilo ««•■ a f<»l>inf ^ry >int. Tha abatnee tf Iraarvod »n the pUca, wjt ibn luau'a laatun fur atlliog ii. CM Iba main puat r»ad wiihiu 4 oidaa (if (iaurgatuvo* Iht i^^tf Load Alalvilla auld a uaci uf bud for I3«. Od. ao ttat. Tht tiuiaiiua. 1 balitvt, la guod ; and at for at 1 tto jidgti iia attotl valua, wnm ibt timb«r. la abott 10a. to ttft. Gom. QtAT-<->8uppaat iht patpla gal an apportunlif It panbtaa, il apptita ibtir agritolioral raaoa.'oat trill aoi t»> iilt ibtfli tt bty : whattt liian wiM ihty gain mttty it put' tiMit (btir frttllulda f Ifr O.— On aiiiiia f^riR^ Ihfrc «\r« youtig uitfo grown tp, who would aaaiai in purehating fhcm ; and nil woald mtit Miiiltii t# tvtry iaatfiiiiit* ttMtort ibo fat aiaipit of Atir ptoytnita. I i ''\ M ! I m «i\ tVBI ftJSUft (SOltllMBlOfc* Hi ' Cnifi. nRAV— If the prnpti* hnrrot* money, hn^i niiiriBt(|« Ibeir proprrtifK. wuulJ ihr;^ nni b« • ilani{f' ••'llitmrum'ns ■iider lanJInr.i* again? ., , Mr. O — I ihink not. * ^'^ Com. Grat— Wh«t If tlia n'at of libor < Mr. 0.--A*ffof Xdi a Mir Tba average fur a day'a wurk, whan f«uitj, ia 3^. Wagii* •ra liightif in Khipjfarda ; and aU«* for a frvk iLfa ii Ilia lima of harveit. hir. Citoria au^^rMuJ iiui til«'a liui thvrr wunltf Nto- ntny Melliog airr'k, if juTiona wru riidfavtiring m raiao oionujr to purrhaai* lUmr irpclftiiia. thai no one wnaUi ba foun^ to buy una liihe uf what vmulti h() in iha ninrhei. He alao •vprvtacd Ilia opfnori ili.-it %Uf peitple coul*! nut (luichaao ihair farma at t)w rat** per «cr<* naim^ by Mr Owen. Mr. UwKN — VUv v.ilue ot' lanJa will tK'prnd upon ihHt •iluttlon. For eiampiD. I would va>uo Lota 61, 39, 54 and 66 preiiv much alill<* In IflftI, oala aimnM nold fi«r Od. » boalial ; ainoa than, ihojr have arir'n fu U OJ. 9«, and ovan M high ta 3i. Com. Howi riforvlrtg 8K«iv lo iTio iteitl(*monl of Naw Parib, Mr. Owen rcraarkad that the daaa of leiiieia Ibaft mwB aqvil to perliapa any In Britiah Nurili America. Mr. Owfltttlao tfaied ihat tio thooitbt Hte (•nvernmeni sfhooM Ilka pnaaoaaiuii ttf lite llahery r\arrv#>a, aod lai iham to i%« Mttlara at reaaonable raiea. CoiB. Howt— Woold yoo havo iho (lovoroifMot ottf in, Md tako raan't farmc froin ihaiol Mr. 0.—> No; boi I would let tham hafo i%a raa«rv« uo Ihtir farma at a nARitnat prici*. I would pi tot tho reaartfa b tbo handa of the Ovvommttit that it inig hi gifotbaai to lllo •Ptott •i^npani" Com. GRAY—Wa aro mtieb nbligait fo yoo, Mr. Oaroo. Too bavoriplalni'd ynor viawoclHarly and fully. Mr. John CaAwman neat showed ihaCoan the diflkulttoa in whieh ho waa involved no aenonnt of ih« rental fyatOUli Coon. Pataiat oroao-eiaminao Mr. Owkn— Yon hato taid •och, Mr. Owoa, aboot iho litlaa of Lot 63. Toor fbthai waa Poaimaaier Oaneral, and a very inialligant man aroa Mo not? Ho woo Poaiwiaaior General, but thero Might bo a diflaronaa of opinion coneerning hie inteirganeo. Ha aettlfd ■fun tbo Lot? Yea. Did ha take a leaao fraia Mekrtllo) I Mvor aaw it. Do yoo believo bo took oiio f I dara aiy ha did. Uava yo« any doubt alioui il^ Aro yut opon that Ibrtaf Yoo. Haa rout been paid for It T My fbtliar, fbo> liato, paid root. Up t« what lima haa rent b*.en paid fnt thai farmf Noana«er. Waa your faihar'a fa«nA out uf iho lot 10 you fnantkmod 1 K * anawer. Vom. GnAV— *Thot*a wkart iha aHiioappoafa to pNBih, Paloaar? -JV ^'.i f^ YBB Lkfty O0MMmi9J»^ Mf. Owui— ThtM quOTiiona nt Mr. PalfMr, 1 e«iiti fwal thai what ibay atata k9t9 eaanut ba ua«d afainai Uien ai a fiiiura tiuia. Oaon pALMca— Mr 0.?rn, hta %ny olTer Iwen nadd fnr yaur farm ^ Ifr. Uwi.t— I nater nflered il for aala. Coan Palmkr — lUa any ••llt-r b«vu iiuda fur |aaff faira hf lli« i»tanri»ttira * llr. H(*orka aaid aach hvJ be«DthacM«i. Cava Palmcb— Whiii did Mr. Uouika any! Mr. OwKN — .Sacti quranuna, 1 da nut feel aalltd upon la aoawar. I wia'i you ki undiitaiand ilial I carao iiera MriiUno privata griwaneea ; inJ 1 liatc aiatad what I cu:iaid«r lo b« llM valua of laiida 8«>nrrallv. Coon Palmbb— Di yuu know al whal laio iha (arm on whiah f oo rcaida waa pr«{ics«*d lo b« purchaaed ? Mr. OwiN— 1 will nut aiiawi:r. Coon TnoMion ritaa. , Ooon PAi*Mca«->w«v, ouw, ilm ia tarji gutNl in NT r Thoai too, la It nut f Cnuii 'l*iiuMi«in— 1 9u% quitv ri|:lti. Yea ara a ganlleoiaii. Mr. Ot«vii, «liu hf d.ai'Uicil lb« ittka uf th« ptoprialora uc Ikal Tu«M«hip, ar4 yuu uui? Mr. OwM — Yra. Ctiuii TuonauN-— And tlmt it ttm reaatit <«b> ynu do nut •lali to fiava rtidiMirn < iiraciad from yua tiKtui yuut (*tm' Cum KiTCMiK— It ia raally an imporiani t|ueatiuo which Mi> Palmar aaka^ but it rtaia witb Mr. Oavh tu anawor it at bt pitaatta, al onurae. Yoo hftto givun uvidcnca, Mr- Own* raapectioit wliat proprriy i* «oiJ tor ui thai TuwuaUip; ttd Mr. Palwiar aaiia yuu if any prraou tiaa tualty nlt>;rt d you t aoia htt ynor own. Thu autwor vruuld bate a dirtfOt baar itg opot Ihit Mubj'ict, f'tr then mo wi>uld bavo on« cjao agtinai aooUMr. CwtMk PaLMiLM— 'I Mr*, Mr. Oo«n, if bo ia uul awara •«-*• Mr. OircN— 1 d<>i adtcuin*; b«ru lu biin^ up famiiy mti- Mra. Cum Gaav — lit* la n«it U*au4 ioa*l anylhing «bieU wotUd afaat bia pnvaiv initfrvata. Couo PAl.Mi:M~llit«w i% a iumi guin;{ lu undariako tu pay foi iho frrehold «if hia (anil, mHu caunui pay bia rtuil «tl| ym» vipiait ib.^t f , . Mr. Oivt.v — fbtty eouid nuly du it by uiaknig graat tacri- Ami. Cum lluura— tn LunnuburK^, iioar n«lif«x, a A«»in^r •»! Dolcbmcii jra aettttd ; ilii-y bawua vary ruiiuud part of ibc iMjftfui tMi)cU wuffat \m^4. i^a l.ot tfl tho panpU havo kx I aavaral ehangaa of agania Whoa I cumo to ikia aoaatry, Mr Jakaaoa waa aganli aAar kirn waa l.lowallin llian Mr Ball, naM Mr Yea. Thia gaatlanian, wko ia kiaia«lf a propriotor, ia ikt aganl for Mr Laarraaoa Hailivan* Can l hata kaard ii fraaa^ntly rapf»atad that ka raoaivad iioihiag. Bal woraa thaa lliai tk^y wronged ika 7 foi preprialor by allowing tka tinibor to ha oal away for tka aaka of Ikaatampaga; and afVor doing that thny mada no allowa Ika taaaat, bat ranted it at thw imma nite aa ihoagk it kad kaan ia tea primiilva atato It ia a matter af pablio iMitoriaty that tka Rarl of Salkirk aaid £llt,000 wora daa him aa bb eouta fac •rraart of rant. Cam if owa— Waa niaek of ikat aollaalad f Mr WiOMTMAM— I>oabtl«aa it waa. Cam. Ilawa—- and yoa tkink ka never raoaivad It) Mr WiONTMAN— 1 think ao, and kalieva Ikat ia Jaatlka •aaaoa* ko ia ao aniinue to aaii. 0oma poor people en ilia Tawaahif kava eaflHroJ great kardakip. Tnej ware campaitai la go back into tka interior of iho country ti or tt mitee, an4 taka laoda with nothing to ahow for tkam, bal a doaamaat •wkiek oniijaetfc tktm to an aanual rent, yet doea not gaamataa Ikam their property a aiogle day bayond the plaaaara of tka nait igeat. I have hare a copy of an agroamant wkick waa givao t» aa by Mr Yeo on bakalf of Ijawranea ttallivan. (Thia mama> rai^BiB waa to tka eama effect aa one granted by Itiia AgaAl wkksh wa kava already pabliahed in oar reparl.] Com. RitCMiB — Did voo aver apply for a leaaaf A mama rMdam of thia kin4 might l oovmnoHa • M .^.ii. mM tak« ilrii w Miki^, •■4, Um y ii w wMtt khlltjP !• UIm H M ff«f«M ^viaf M. If Um ItMlM ««||Wkat faloa waaM yaa Ml apoa tkair Mlaitt, iTaA^ll At oacai Hir vICtoHTMAJi— fai aa aort woaM k« aaipla ta flva ftr iMay iMt n to iaJm ikam all ia a lamp. CbflB llowa— Lai aa now diraat jfoar aitoatioa to aaalkar lifpadi of ^M •abjaet. Sa»poaa tho Qtvarpiaoat, awiag to Uia ^tt af Ui AnafMaa, iiaawa to parakaaa ik^ miSMUm^vlm pfa- ripl^;a94 wmota Uiat all Uiia Coaaauaaioa, ar til tkaltka iai|i eqaM 4o» woald ka to oi a priM afo« Um Iaa4» at t • I ' r Ttll tkUt CX>inil88IOK. 14t wlffeli iIm tmmaX oociiM HiffwftH omI4 pmtoImm Hm awii fanny fli • rai* •! wTiioli Vr WiaMTM Afv—I am avl |KtpAr«Ml to 4« m j«tl now. Com RiTCMi ■— W«r« iomU m) ing Jtft p«r lUO acrta i lari/ av«r| /aar la iha proprieiar, lim iav«atiriaai ihaa wo«l4 ka aa good at baak atoek; aow wrra yu« gn of tho original lltiaa baing dofaeiiva, qnil rania wpaid, eonatderiftg loo thai ihara hava enaoad <0 yaaaa af dialraelioa and aaaponAO, you aa a pakHo man aro proparoi to call ipon Canard or aejr oibor proprivinr loaoiuo in and aakt • aaeriAoo in ordar to gain a aotilomont at tbia di«pnio kolwooa iaadlaid and tanani I Mr WiOMTMAK— Yao : Conatdoring iho way tkia laland hao baaa managad, I thiak it woald bo contrary to raaaon that lk« propriotora anontd rocaivo inll valuo Aw thsir oatatan. Conn TMOMraoN-^Anotkor ronaon wby thay ahouM notr»> eoivo foil valaa ia that tho ronta hava boon too high. If on. Mr CoLsa auggaatod that aa tlia country now pnyo n Land Conmiaalooor, by a littia additional aiponaot tho Got oni* aant oonid nMooM tbo wbola of tho landa in tho Colony ihroigh thn Land OAce, and aa payoiaata woro roeoitod fVom thn tannnlo. ihoy might bo handa« ovar to tho propriotora par* hapa oneo in ais moniha* lla thoaght it would on noooaanry I* a^opt aomo mathod of thia kiod, tor tha lananta wonl4 not hn ablo lo pnrebaao tho frooholdo of thoir farmo, nnlaaa thoy wom aflbrdoa tho opportnnHyof paying for than byoaay inatalmonta. ia in which eaao propriotora wonid raqnira to retain thoir ogonta In ooHoet tho nonioa aa thoy booamo dna, and wonld hnao to pny land tai , eonaoquonthr it wonM bo nnjoat to aiiuw «uoui m# M*«tf a pi lea for Ihair landa aa might bo thoaght anffioiont warn thoy •olanbjactod to anch an untlay. Cob. Hows pohitod not two difllcaltiaa in tho way of car- rying oat thia soggc-".bn: firs!, tH«» tananta, if n majority of th« cooatitnoota, mitht docido upon not paying purohaaa muooy nt •II; and, aocondty, it would not do lu change n nian*a agani avi^oot hia cona«nt. lie ahowod that a caao aoaUgona to tlin •no mentintiad in hie firat objection unoH ocrurrad in Nova Hcetin ia refor«nco to aeTor«l Cuuntiaa borrowing uioiiny from thn Gevernmaat. After they received tlie money, they formed n combination and never paid it. Hon. Mr CoLca thought if tho Coiuiniaaionaro luft the land in the handa of the propriotora to be auld by thoni, they wonld necomptiali little good by coming to the Colony. Conn pALMsn^I would not troat any tiuvernment with thn maoagomeni of tha oalatea «f lli« |iroprietora. Com llowB — If no other aolntiun of tbo queetionhe poaaibln« wonld anv injary nrlan from thb plan, namely : riuppoan n frko died npon tLt Iftnd on prory oatato, and the tenant to IS M» mi LAJID OOMIfli^OV. iam t hiW Maiviagi teak, kf Hy*af . Ara *iiu ptMi|»i« i|«naraiiy indaairiaaal Thatr ara , and 8ob«tr. What ia yoar opinion raapaotiog thair iaohility ta par rt^nt .' Ttiara ara maay oattlers on Iha Taws-' ahip whh annll firniiiM, wboaa improvamonta ara not aaflleiaat 10 aaabia ihoni to maka tha rant oat of thair rnniia. What io Iho avaragn vataa of tha la ad ) I thiak aboal fVtiin Sa 64 to to •lorltoo an aera. Mr Philip Bsaoa. (Vnm l^t 5t, «t «>■■! ft r«r I9t aerti. No! ntm thta | oi* iH^ ImuA If It r«r MlliftliM. 8on» icMata ar* XtO, oihara XIO m at rMM. Mr Lataekaar ataia4 that ha «vaa •• Lai 41 fiA/ Ata yaart. Illi ralkaf waa dala4a4 fram Gaeratay kw % praprlatar, th« Ufa Mr Cambn4ca. Tha land wkieli hia fatbt r ikaaf hi ha waa g«- lag ta p B MM i araa bor4af ing apnn iha Raal Sivar. nal far fraai Charlaitalawu: bal whaa ha eaofia la il, ha foaad il waa 6 niilaa ft As •^•••»-» Tha ramilv a(l«n«ar4a matad lo Marrajr llaf har, aad haaghl laad thara ai tha raia al Aiu par nunuian ■«.•«•• HIa faihar pratiaaa lo laaving (luaraaaf piM X800 Tor iha fraa- baM af 1500 aeraa, which lia rnuinad Cor a aainbnr ut jiaart, aa4 ihan auld to Mr Worrall at 4» Od an aera. 'I'ha laoaauy aa l.al 44, baaidaa iha poarnaaa afiha taod, had other difllealUaa lb aaaland with. On aeoount af tha daiiruotiaa ot iha foraal yaan ago, fanea polaa and Rr«wood euuld noiha aa»iljr vbuioad. Cbtb. llBHiLtv called a d«ii«|alion from lu>t« bO «ndftl» aad aftar raading iha mamdriil rrnoi Lot 61. quttiionad Mr /aiAaa Rioa, oha orthad«lugitoa->Yo« bavu a Uaio, Mr Kieaf t—. On what tnrmi* Thn lunae it ai U an acra. and for Mf /aara. How long hava jroy b«>4in nn lb* placed 13 yaait. Ara iha laaanla al! in arraartf Yfi. If ibry wera nITurUad ao op* portanily of purclia«rng, jroa tliink ilia rata would roquira lo ba vary towf Yoa. Al what ratM d«> yua ibinkf Oii an acia, with 14 yaarn lo^ay. Who 94 yoar ugitni* Mr llavilaiid, aid ha navar diilrained apoo any uf ut, our did wa arur «h«va a boraa'a tail on hi« account. lion lliATM IIavilanp— Vuur Eicnllaneiaa, Ihia 1^1 ba> longa to Iwo brancbai of ilitt Monlgomarjr family. Fur ona of ihaaa partiea, Mr Duuao la ugani. Mr Uoaia, I boliava, gara hia Iviiantc a claar mcaipt for ona yraf*a rant; bat tlioy ara now ia arraara of 2 yaara. In 18A0, ilia prupriator of Uio pan of 1^1 60 for which I am acting aa aK*)nt, ^ava uf> XtUOU orarraura of raal, 10 tha lananta, and gnva tli*;ni naw liioaoa, I'ur tlio Aral fainr !•••• »!.«• .•it, :3 -tJ'..ii»»««l ,n tliM niiw iMUMa. waa only to ba 4d ao acre, and aftarwardd waa nut to ri«o higliar tiiao id. Tha lananta fro.o ihia portioa uf tha Towoahip apoka highly •f thair agaal. Coort adjjoaraad al 54 u'oteck p til. ' ' TiiVRaBAT.Sopt. 20, 1A40. MrLAwaiHcs Parifti, Irani Lot 44, cuniaa forward for •lamination. Mr Coaraa, bafora tha aiaioinatioa waa proceodad with, wfabad' n> ahow how tha Franek aaitlera on ona Township war* drivan aat of Ihair proparty, and how thay oblaioad land on aaothar. Ha comnaocad hia ranarka by aaying that oaa of llaaa Aeadian Fraack had iuluruiad kioi that baliad aattlad on a' pniat of land an tha aoalh tvaat eoraar of Hullo Day. Mr Ckabridga i^Iaad po i aaii to a of th'ia pari of land, (a (Mr ■•*?•- ¥9 ippijMlo n ^ wn ffWH ••4 «a|ltt tm w ittfMi iMf* Wm« tiM orifual nf iMai «4 Um lUf ••!«« M My yf •MM*, tai M 4i4 Ml apy— f UmI Mf H »tn iMd b«M tof* u«i Mr C«orta— 'li mlflu •««! Cam. 0BAff-4«cli m mi wavtf brivg lafraea t^M ihs Cmi. KiTCNfs^t «»;ii *7 r:r-i:.<» ••<: My »M«i •• p«b«if IMS tk—\4 nuk* Mck • aUicaiMl waiU Im kni •ui«w«i Um twam^ fw kiiiiMir. Mr CoorsK— ll »•• ttrf m«| for «• U 4« il. I •*/ t^ ««rk it mfvniaM u Ik* ••••■• it Arclitbat^ Cftmpb«U« wW ««U«I ai lJi« plae* whidi I iit'ia(iuM«4. ilui bia Iaa4 waa att ilia aaai buaaJary, aa4 waa la i «a waal la tha llaa af iba Tawa* «ly^{ bat at thai lioia it appaara, Iba Toaroifiia lioa waa Ml raa. AftanvaHa* wbaa it mt» raa to iba road, Mr Anbraati ilaarba raraitad a blo«b nf Uad ikwa.wbicb aoaiaiaad SOO aoraiw davrba aiada tonia tropiuraiii«ta'i apoa ibu proparly, aad wbaa ha diad, laA ii iw Hi« widaw. AAvr bu datib, tba wa af Mr « aibfidfa waat ta tha widow, aad da«irad bar la cbaw btai ib« •taad bar i.a«li4ad b««l recaivaJ. 8ba |ava it la bioi. aad wbau ita bad aiaifiiued ik. '*• lald h«r it arac an food, aad tbraw It lala tba bra Tba wiJ 'm ■riarararda mada aa aindavh ta that tfifaat. It «r«« •ab>«<|u«*iiilv diieoT«rfid tbat Uaarba bad ri wulim . Hxmo yeari tftur, Mr Patara bacama a|ant fur tba I.*r t'airphttll. Wbaa ha want, h% i'aaad Mr i^mimtm •iiiuif !• muhI a labia wall faraUhad with papart «ad piaiala. Ha mformfil I'aiupbail tbat ha maat taka a laaaa fiir part af iha Inad. and ha c(tiii|j|iad. i^a luaa i$ praaaat W* day faadjf ta giva hi* a«idanef. Cv«M. ll«ii««i.B« |>ru«r«eMB. HowB.-'l^an yua iafarm aa aboat tba fVeaab baii^ drivaa aff tbair landa ' Mr PsTBSa.^l hava beard af it maraly; bat I will tall ram xvbal I bava haard. Tba aid Fraacb paopla wara firat aatUad al IHy fofftaaa. <:a«. Hows.— Wall, wba drava ihani fraoi that plaea V ^Ir PaTsma.— TlMj wara Ihar* la 17M uadar Iba lOtmt if Iriaoa. , «:aa. Oaar.— Why dM tba^ raa?* Ihara f Mr PsTafta.— I waa tald that at tfaa tiao tbia lilaad iMa Iha pi w iaa af tha Brftiah, thay loab iba aatb of allagiaw •ad thai Iha aaval Caaouadar thaa aa iha ttalMa told ihiA ^h a« ^ MrtMbtttf M l^« ofWl, ikAi if ilMy wmM to |mA aM* jMM Umjt iImhiM •*! to 4iii«rb\-4 in ttoir ^^m t umimm, Omb. asAT.— Tlltl U •toilar !• #tol «Mi iptuwl i« (to IMity «r<4a«to«. G^ai. HMra.-*W*ll. itoj toali ih« aAlh k apftMnii m«v «'«• 4to«rtodito«» Ik PBTaii«k-^T%«f r«MMBad ttora aAtr thai IS or M ri0f«4 ■lUr tHikili liaM Mr T mm ium t^ 4 M*« tH d«cl«r«4 hinMdf it to Ito •«•« of ito p raparty. Tli« pao^U raslitad Iim elai*. Oaite H*WK.--4lii cUim«l ito l«dt 4i4 ha! Mr Psraaa— Yaa. Wto* ttov raaiatad ha aaivi4 Ihaoi •vtoh «»#••■ af «*«rtm«al. Tha mmiuIm Miami him a trial. TfMt# 4Mi% ltr««aai« aaoagh v§ •aoaia'ih* aatviea* of aa attoHiajr ifh« ivaa oa bta way fiooi lialifat to Caaadai hia aama, I Ihhii, WU Can. ll«frB.— Wtot w%» iha raaalt f Mr PsTiKu —On muiion fur trial, tha earJiileaia of tha Com* MOMlar waa prMacifd and ffinininad; and iha Coait fipfaaoad tbair afteaiahmaat at Mr Tawaaond. Thaa it andad that tidio; ■ aathkig waa dona. Again, hotaavar, whao tha Bavi|ailoa «oa eloaad, aad ao attoraay waa lo ho had !>y tha paopio, for Mr Towaaond had them all omplayad. ha broaght on tho eata • •ooand timo, and Mnfortanaiely fur lha poor paopla, Ihay loat ii. Tkmf had ao attoinay, and th* valMiiy or tht eortilloaio wtf diapatod. It waa aiatiid th«t the (*iuitiiitind«r waa inaana whaa to gavo aaeh a Unoaiaitni, Htill lha |i«npla w«ro not aaliiflod, aad itoy appliad tu Mr raniliriJgt). Com. WhAt dnl ihay apply to him Tor^-io givo oaaariif ! Mr PoraRo.— I 90 or 40, tlia aefecandantii of Ibusv who wora drivoo (Voin Purtana Day. Aftar lha old French paopla loat the •ail, Mr Townaead eame on thaur for rant , IVoni the (imo to aiada tha claim, uufil Iho time they leA; ao tho people wore ofely ablo to bay CO aaraa «iach from Mr Cambridge. So maay li«« BOW oa tha prbperiy tooght by the old Praaeli aettlara, thai ttoy are in diatroos, not having aufficieai land fur oaliivalloa. Hm oM pMpIo wore very Diaoh fttnltoBod, and tbia troabia aboaC their load aabjeetad tliom to ao mach aipenso and laqaB- vaalatoa.ttottoiafellUiorolothepreaeat.day. Irowwilhbot low oaeoptitiBo, ihaoa paopla toT» only 25 aerea a-plooa; aad th^ toM iMa toa. Coort will taka their eaaa into ooadlderatia«. vcm. Hbitii.'— Do yos Uva aatr tht aaa f Ifr ?«rsBa.'— Yaa. Com. G B A r.— Wto wbo ihia Mr Tuwaaand I 9Um. II. Ha? iLAMB.— Ub waa a maiabor of tto CobboiI, m ■MM noiAim mtlaa- IimI»mi 4MKMMt pmM. > Mr AniMkaM GMn^N, r«ftri«4 !• by Ifr CMftr. •naUia hf C—' MaBthjf.— tlo y«Ki bol4 ■•4tff a Imw f ^irilf . W%k b fMff Uadlnf^ * Mr !>• BIom ii agMl Dm ym Ihmw wIw Um M«yrM«ar it? Tlitf ■•/ ii m C«aaf4* How iMg kmw jmm (mm ibara > 14 jMra. Da jtm ^f r««t f I hav* la. ifaw laM «Ma yaa aafiaawladcaA Um praprialur f Abaat It f aaia. Da to* pa? aa I Ya& llava yoa bad aaf !awmii«a abaai to I Tbaj pal ma throafb iha nill praiijr wall. Who, Mr D% Bloia f Mr pa Di.oaa.-.\oB wara aciUad oa iha Lac barora ?aa laak Mr Cam vscLi.. — I boafbt from widow Ambvaoa, wbt pti>. jhir'l fcoi^ \lr Cauibri4lfa. Coaa. llaNSLEv.— Had bar baaband a daad f Mr CAMraBLb.—l waa told it wa« baraad. Bba aaid Mr LaiMaal Carabridga barnad iu Cam. CiAAT.— How diJ aha bnow what kiad of a doaiaiafli h waa-^it mif ht h«va baan •« ogroamaat f Mr CAwraBLi..— It iiiigbL A mao ralUd Marrow, got Mcoa aa tho Tvwnthip, which wai aald far iaad las. Whan b« ttma to gai hi* Iaad. liiora waa not « apoi «*f:t!ioat writian fVofll Uio agant fur it. bat that whara iho wijuw bad boani aad wba« Jadga I'atoia foand I bad an ai|iiitjf of radamptioo oo it, bo aaal Ma a writ uf ajoctinaat. Cam KircMia — Didyoadafaad tboaakf Mr ('AvracuL. — Yea. Com. Uir«MiiB >*And what waa iba lotalt I Mr CAMracbi. — Thnj kept mi thraa yoara in doabt; tb« caaa waa n<^cr trifd. I aOorwirda fn^nd that I had mora againat nm thin Judga l*alor«. I did nut know what r.o do Mr Edwafd l*«liiicr bi*)(au to adviaoma toaatUa with i'oton. I did aa, aad ho (five roa a rela.iao of my ai-i^hbor'a land; and lba« raa a lino betwaeo my dour and wood-pilo. Cuan. llaNALBV.— Yum hid togivo wajr ia that lawaahf 5!r Cjkiii iik4.u. — V«<. Coaa. l*AL.MBn. — Did job not a.-i]r yaor eoantal paraaadad JOB to BKlila it t Do V'la aay anything iigunat hia advica t gam. KiTCNiB.— l)o yon ihiak ha adviaed you for tba baal t rCAMmvLL -^l cxpoeted a sbcrifTadaad. Com. G a AT.— Out .Mr I'almar i« a Uwyer ofatandiag, aad if ba told yoa that vub woald bo dcfoated ia tba aaaa, ha did right IB adviaa voa aa bo did. Coaa, rAi.MBa — What do yna attribata to yoar attaraajr f DBf aa think ba inlantionally mialod yon ? , Mr CAMrBBLL.-- At an| rata I am oat of tbo abariflTi dud. Caaa. pALaraa. — f)a yoa impata Jgaoranca to bim ) Mr CAMt>BBi.i.. —No; thay took advanta|a of my igaoraaoa*! Cobb. I*ai.m bb.— Do yoa «uiiM ofaA abidtl rtlaliv*. wko Mr PtlaMirtli«tfllt« Mfidjnij; ] Cmi. TNOMioir.— t think Mr P»l:fi9' U qaiu fi|hli hit krolhtr, Mr Edwiird P«tm«r h « nrnr»wiooal |«nllflafian ofgrMl rMpMlabilhjr. A« ooaufnl for inn T«nantrjr I bvg to tUI* itltt I attarlf r«p«di«u «acli impufAtiona. Com. Hoars. — Thia pNo. I thiak I eaa do better with my money. I at- aatft 90 gat a better bargain from theie hoa. geatloi Uad|(h:er. ] My hopot ara g^'od, aad my faith it ttroag. Had laa atker way of making a fiviag thaa by farming and paying raai, I aoald aot do it. Maay ia my aaighborhood ara la a ■mft warae poehion tbaa I am. Thara ara aaa arooad mc •rito da aot know tka taata of isotaanf aad taa. I\ ■ i a i ■1 i I T^ UUP qNouaiipy ^6 Cmi. Ilewt.~lp ih«i ■ fool, or ira jo« oal/ ^AMriMf MfG — llUtrtt. Com. Hows — W«il.ili*7 ^r« lh« poorMt ptoplt i« AiMriea* M^ Ci.«MiifTf.~ir jfM bat Mw thair 2i««ala»Uiair patMIl 10 kaari raadiag. Mr Da Ruoia.— Tbara it inach patartjr in tha pla«a rafertad ta by Mr Clemaata. Thaaa peopla liva on a part of iba ooaal wbara thara ia a bifh banh. lial thair potariv doaa oat ariaa \y nay. Tua coroiaanUy ia Of liali aa(^ frUh. aod aoMa from paying rant, for ihay do not pay nay aiii«4--aoma ara tiooich, othara Ei «f« ttnm f3n«niMiv. Com. Goat. --^Aro Ihay iojaattioaa ? Mr CiiiaiiitTa.— >Yaa. Caan. Palm a a — How ara tbay foinc Ip purehaia l^ir Ibrma? Mr C.^I eannat tall yoa. Com. Howl— It ia rara tt (bd a misad eoromanity a« faaarally poor. Mr C— I do aoc aat tbay ara all that poor. Soma of tkam lika to liva w«HI, and I am ooa of thaaa. [I«aa|htar.] Com. Hows.— Haw high i« tha bank oa tha ahora whara ibavUvar Mr C— Aboat 60 faat, and it oittDda a,long tha eoaat aboat 4 Com. Oa AT.— I aaa a poat offiea roarkad oa tho map al Ihal plaoaf what ia it ihara for ?»-for Mr Da ISIoia*t rantHlaankig lattara ? [Uaghtar.] «r (;.— Tt^a poat ofllea ia at Littfa Sanda. r Da Blaib.— Many of thaaa paopla ara from tba l^a of 0kya. Thair farma ara in a wratehad aiata, eovarad with IkMlaa and othar waada. Mr C— Wa hava nothing to aay againat Mr Do Bluia aa agaH. Com. GoAY. — I think wa oanaol antortain aa aofavarabla Ofiaioa of Mr Do DIoia. Conaidating that ha ia agaot far ao ax* tanaiva an aatata. it ia a food aif o that wa bava not haafd aay paraon apaak diaraapaetfaliy of him* Raapacting tha nahary raaarvaa, Mr Clamaati aaid that ho voald jaqt lika to Imvo uio front of bia farm takaa (Vom kia* Roia. mr Coiaa — I aaw a fiaharmaa on tlio wharf to^ay, who aaid ha had baan tarnad oat of hit piaeo. Mr Da BLoia.~l larnod him oat, aod ibo poopio woro |la4 lagatolaarof bim. Mg CoLsa.— I tkiakha waafroro Nova Scotia toow (Laaghtor.) Jolmaoa ia kia aamaf— ha kad bio family Willi him. Com. UowB.— I am afraid yoa do ooi got tho boat olaao ttmk Vova Sootia. fl^Bgbtar.] Iff M'I.aad (nm Lot §4 aiamioa4 by Coaa. Hoaalay.— Ifot liva op Towoahip 64, Mr M*Laod f Yoa. I bavo lataly booa doprtTod of my loaao. I waa diatraiaod npoa for root. I k yiik t a 1^000 of land, aod tha man from whom I parobaaa4 il aoop aluf loA tbo laland. Ho cava mo to aadorataad thara waa kat littfa dao opon it, and Mr Uo Bloif oamo oa ma aiaaa for jtlOO. I paid ,f U dowa, wboa I got thd plaoo, and moaoy daku aiaoo. 106 TBI LAND COMM imiOII. whieh th« fna« owvd. I lbiv« paid altof nthtf XIS*. U MfM tf th« lao4 ar« cleared. Coan. llsnaLB V. — When di4 |o« naka jaui bargaia F Mr M'l.BOD.— Thif j*»t Com. llowB.— A« a i«ntibl« man whjr did yoa not go M Mr Da DIoia, aad r«e about it bafure yoa pvrchaaod } Mr M'L.— Tba mao wisbad in not aw4y privately. Com. liowB.— Had tba maoyua booghl houi a l^*— i Mr M'L.— Vat. Com llowr _Ai»4 .•«r hii tr ^*vc .^ ^wm. .'•••« I Mr M*L — Ym. Aim! I had to giva op tba boad. Mr I)b Kkoia. — A Ianm wbn inkao out fur iho proptrlv bv Mr ^'aro•el Rubaria. Thafo la a good mill aiia vm tbo iMd. Tho man who auld tha place, owed a largii anioant on it} aad •■• morning ha took it into hi« bead to Uava iho coaatry. Ha Itft a birad man ia poaacMioa. Com. G«AT.->|lid h« leafa bia wifa? Mr Dm Bi.ofa.~y«ot attd XIOO to pay. I had $nn him •vor iodalganea. Con. liowB. — What boeamo uf hit wifo f Mr CLBMBnTr -^Hha went nboat from boaea to hoaao, tad m MOW doad. Mr Urn OLOia.— Sho waa nat turned out by tha propriaior. llMtrt Biraia, Gatcf, Morriaon, AlUr c, from Lot 4S, prsaantod to tha Court by (*oan. Hanaley. Mr Alias, froiB Houghton laUnd, aaawara qucatioaa. , Cob. Graj— Uow did tba proprietor ifat that iilan49 Mr Allan— Sateral iilaoda wero crantad iodapendatttly of Iba Towaabipa. Boughton lalaod waa graittad to M«Bt- fMiarj- Cbao. Hanolaj— How laanj laaiaholda ara thara on it, Mr A.— -Nina famillao liva thara, all of whoa ara laaaa> ItoWwa Caan. Ilanalay — Yoa bavt a laaaa than 1 Mr A.— Yaa. OoQO. naBala7-*-WViat do tba tanaota thart coaplala ofl Mr A.— or tba ranta baing too hi|;b. OooB. llaoslaj— What ia tba rant? Mr A.— la. bn aera, and tha soil iaonly middling. Soaa art oooaidatably babiad with tbair ranta. A part of tba arraaro wara ibr|ri?aa tbaa ; atill thaj aanaot kaap tha aaatapaid ap. whan tba laaaat wara givan, tba ialaa^ waa eoanaotad with tha mainSand ; aiooa than, howafar, it haa baaoaaa dataobad bj a obannal. This oiroanataaoa «aiiat tba land, at tha proaant tima, muob Iom Taloabla. Tkata ara aboal 540 aeraa oa tba ialand. Wa par raal Ibf flabary raaarvaa. Coaa. Hanalay— What would joa valoa tla laad alf Mr A.^6a. ao aora. Wa ha? a oo aaboala, aor aaj abarabaa. 1 I IT I I II. li ^' I THI LAND rOMMISAIOV. 167 Com. Ilowff— Yon appetr lo b« •• ialellif«nt m maoy m Um mainland, nni» iihitaaaing. Mr A.— ^fv (aihcr waa hardly dealt wil>S b/ lh« aftat n withJn'w. I lion. Mr. Thornion >l. I*. P. Ii«ri»r«> the Coari. ' Coan. Ifen^lajr — You are a Rolleague of Mr Owen'a, Mr Thnrnion, and from ihe Nunie disftirt .' ^ Mr Thornton ^•Yec, I can corrolMirai«* the fli^iemeniaatlvancn by Mr Owon. I lieli'Rve land nt Marrrty H.-irlmr i* nut worth on* half what It wa« many vfara ago. I ihink Mr (\uiiliiid4e net n high value u|i.iin the l.iud iliero nn .-ircouiit o( iia ahiphuildingeap* ahiliiie*. Suk** tiiiit tiiiD.*, •Iti|iliutliiin:{ liJ4 gonn U*uvn a'ld Und haa dt-precntod in %aluc. I tliink ihe land nn Lot lil 14 not nuwr worth !».10||h ofMli.tl it foriiiiTly wn«. Kirea havit lan nvi>r iha land, and llifroby ih«f <|uality of tin* foil ha» liiN>n r«>ducfd. Thn faciliiit.'a for piying ri-nt are now greail) rirruiiHcrihed. '^nn. ll«'ti!iloy — Yoo will pleaan go un ••«nd ''late your viewt, Mr ihofniuH. Mr riiori.toM — Your Kirdinnriif^; I heramo an ngent in lf^39 f fur wne li lit' ol' l.'it 3.1, a pirt o( ihi* Trarailm property, lliifrororn 1 have anu)') knu\vli-(lg«) uf tlo: dtti'iiliy of coll»*ctin)( ri-iiia. Thn luiihilily to p;iy icnt ari< M«>iglio j borhood of <*li:irl;ind canntit tiiffi ih«!ir rtMit with ail their ••tuloav- ora. Ofiito lattfr aoiiie arc, a« tho aaying in, " hnadov>-r cara** 10 arreart. The failure of the crop* n uuo of ili.> e.tna<*a lu ihn inability to pay rent. Anothi.r ia family rifDictiun; and anoihnr lodividual lo4«ea. li Com. Howe — Uy individual loaaei*, yuu mean auch aa are ia- cideotai to all couutriea ? .Mr Thornton — Yea. When th«>riv- pnrty waa claimed br Mr M'Dunald of tho 34th Kogiment. la cooaeqaenco u( the ecnmalation of arreara large amoaota ha<| to he given up. .Mr ilonaley knowa I have aakod jCIOinatcad ofX'SO for the porpoae of patting them on n belter footing, and iu induce them to gu un and endeavor Iw make ■ iivibg. MittC* then, tho7 ham done better. Com. Gray — ^The burden being taken off, they worked with more apirit ? Mr T. — Yee. Thoao who had their arreara remitted hava •inee paid np. Mr M* Donald left two children, nnder age, d*>. pendent for their anpport npon tho proporty, with thn eiceptiott af a amall legacy left by tho mother for her danghter. Th« eldeat m a boy. Conn. HtMlny— What if thn aomiBnl aiaonnt of ihn rnat br one y oar. MVt.~£4oo. - "': ■'[-W^:.,:: : " '''^ Conn. Hnnoloy— nod tho ictnal ? "''■■■ Mr 8.— Abontonn half whan tiM eropa arn good; and wIim ihty fail, aboai oa««fo«rtli. 1 raeommaodad tha propriator to aall 12 lj.i TIIK LAND CoMMiS^lON. to Mil «khra h« r '•••«! hiv« '•lititHiiid I0« .in Arip;l»ll h* r*fu««»d. I ilioUflii Mkf ■•.•••ic«i oriSf Mina**) v«i>uld l»« iiiurh bviur. Ther« «re alKtiir l*>.uu. J (oi H oow, «rof»j»i m iIm vii nitty orf iinrioMvloMii * llr r.— I c«iii»t>i 1.4); I wHul.l -^II 11 «•••»« •» ntuif f«'r |0« ati were, «it«l f»o ^!a«l »t» if,fi li. ii. I hav n«> p.-w- r lu *fll.iiiJ. 1%. -iMM 111 ^ '!».• |i«»>fy if«rrv«<, |Mili in« I rnlfrUiu ••^.tli • •>>•!• Ia%i.a ri'>* ril« It.i «•• •• ««r< ••« llx' ( 'fi.W II hi l:iiii iln l.< r i.'ltia I tMtuM !«•■ mi'miii^ to allowr ili4 .irtuhl I1C4 u|>-ii.'i« •, m uiiili'url P<1: I'Ul lli \ -li- uIJ i«n| |..iv nuMli.! 8 I" I'li^ (it<'| 1 1< I v^ I'll tliriil It 'U It. Mil •! I- (• II ( < M Lit (il. H' I a* llic .ij;t?t'i • I ' »■ I .1. I »> .1 I J .~k r i II. I I. >I.l .1 •! Ml • • « I l/\ >!f U ijlitrini- af. _.\ I \Tr I) ii t« !,jl I !.•'.(. Ilk ! « o u««r it «% ' !i «!.» ^ r IM •! N|. t.. -\V ^ff T lilt .1, :>)■! M • oil J V ilu<* •Mr |l :'♦ l»i:}l ll..» ( 'i'll ll!l««»li«ll'f« : . I*-' I. whl'l l)u tilA Uf|<*« % I If I I <'^-> pii(il.».l I I t'n? \» "T:* :i K .!»«• u 'I i.'M** .1! if<»uiiJ ; u;.>l f«'iuii«i.-;i !• i «l» » *»jr ftiiiiiiiii It- . ' >• \i-' el I,*'. |n» iluj ♦•••■' !,iriU" iJ!i'"i lh«' ft i-h'ijird. uf I I" n IIM J" tl • U •!' !tl. f If l^: i l>ll.llll> f v%ii* !>•■ flu. ii in tlio Juurnal« ■ I.I. l.\*\ \ t'r.r (• »ii iiii««iiinL*r* III ••'iiijuif tiMit vviili SU l!'!!' v\< M! .<|<(>";iiii >l. Ill iti'ir iuturii« • liry \;..uii! iJn? {.•ii<)< .it |ii«l* ^I'ortJ n«'l "J liiii iiiii|iL'tiL'J til * roailn oil il.o «'«i.it<' C'liiii. dray- -\Vf ore i.iurli »il»' jr»'il lo you *Ir Thornlot;, for *i.u iulitiiiinti III mIucIi ytxi li.ikM nil. iJttl. Couu. I'.iliittir cro-« ••uniniiie* M» rliornlun — An ni. ug*;nt, y\'i tUt'tuw tiu fcuMcitUU III ilir ivilli lul Itti' u^iii'i* M'Mjikcat UiU you * tNit; I wa« Im'UihI to guu Ifi^ca jmii r litu )»ow«r oC ml- inri.fv which I hiij, not kiimtit.j; wiiera tliu icucrvt* were*. I lirivif nut imdi* ii|i my iirfns c^f^nd. W'hiMi they ar«! i|fiiiit:U, if 1 nut iiu i-i- ''uT(>r fur ihi pro|inrty of tho latif Mr MDiiiuij, I »liiiil be |*r>|idrLd ti« make a ledac- t'.oii. lion. Mr n'mgwull liefore thcrourt — 1 can. ^''iir F.ic«IIencin«, cnrruhiiratn ilh' «ii>i«>iiii*iil« <»r M' 'llitirnion rp»pcctiiig iht> «aluo u( innil* un :hv Worrcil I'niato. When we wrfiu lii«*xnniine that Haiato, we foaud tho niMiplu in A vtfiy baekwuril condiiitin, ami far bnhtnJ h:ind witli their rent*. l'h«* lui>f wmi itrnivd at i high rale. I rf>roiiiiii(>ndcd the |>urchaa« of '.hn ffttutu nveo at tho price the pioprielur net u|Htn it riihcr than Iih«> the bargain. Thi^ peop'e whom I repru^pnt Lfforn ihi« Hum. ('omtHiiiKiiiu de- aired tnc lu atain how tfie laiidt were ltra*ed. Your F.vcvtleoctr^ j f-7" TT^T— ^H^ r' THI LAND COMMiaKloH. i:>9 have bMni «bo«l ih« Trfifh •rtiler* who wrre driven from Forian* Uay. Mr Townnvnd wn nmiou* lu mnli* na inmijr faniw th«r« aa Im pi>«ciliiy cuaij. fur Ik unly a'«vt> ihii cluina froal. Raot waa aiactad froio thom V*t iitaii/ year-*, a '*9Hin uf taw aaita ancued* anJ thejr laantd *\n* Imitl to wrliich ilt.>jr w«r« boaaatly antillad. In all eaat^ Um fKherjr rr^erv*^ w«>r« lot with the olhar Uada. Cooi. KtTCMiB.— Doyttadaeia it oacaMary tliai ihe raaarvaa ba kaiil (t*r tha fiiihnriaa i Mr. liiNOWBLiL. -I think p«>r«nn4 wh«> hoM ih«*m ■liould fu laia lh*>in aa Inn^ iia ih«fy ara ni»i rrijuitt^il !•« fi«h« riiiHfi. Hut I think It would Im int»rl«riMK with tiia nghia of ill* li«hfrmen to giva thoui up allogffihvr lo thn t>crut««ni«. fm thi> Ihhh iii.iy coma, when iIih coantry i« in»ri* ihirklv ««itl«Mj, iim ih^a** ri in)«y nerur, do yoa ihink it would Im* Itwiier t tliiMr own bargiin with the uwnera of the 4i it .' Mr. [)i««GWBLL.— That wnuld ho an unu«anl ea«e. I think; bat an arr:in(t>iiiniii i-ua'd i"t in idn A;:i.-h v;uu!J j^r"****;! ••**<• fiaheriiian from inl«rftirinic with :inntliur. Court adj«iurntd to iiitet ut Cliarlaitetown un thi! foUotvinj Saturday. CiiAHLo I rtrovyM, -^fpt. 22, lsG'». The (*oart met thia day urcnrding to ndj iurniii<»nT. Tli>i tirat part of the ailtio^ w.«4 ocru^innl by Cmn. ilaliliort.in in ••ivin^ the tir^t part uf hit d'.'fonce in bchuli' ui* (li» pro|oi>-l>ir4, winch H aa foilowa:— > COUN*KIi f! AI.MMIITOn's KXi'UIMlM. in upeoinx up aoine uruunda urdetV-ncu in titn caaa of the pro- priatura, before your h.\c*;llunri«a, i ctinnot h«*lp adverting to the p^rupy m l»«Mi»f r^W^ «|>4>fi to adjadi cata im iIih csm. Almott iroiii iIm ('arlin*! Mtikmrnl v( this Colony lh« <|U(Mitiufl wliirh i« now bvinf iuvf>«tiK<«t«>d had it* rtaa. l*ha dilii'-uiiitm UmI n«K alMray* ariaa rith<^r ilirough ih« aetioii ol Ika li-iiaiiN, Itui limy he ul'iil>ui«d lu lural raatea and accidaa* lal cifcamatdiicuB. In uihrr rolunii-a »itiiilarly «ituai«'d iIm Mnio •.vMiau «>r |Min.i'uufa j4 trgatti* •«-ii:iMii«nl wx nut partant. Tho CruMrn in riin<|u« r«f|»->*iiig irrin« of ^eiilenient, and io aouia ca»«>« thi« iigiit «i>a» mduififd m »a alint>*t anreaaonabta •ilent. It wanary nobl<-nittn or to «prcuUliii| rhailrrrd companiaa. It may lio well to l«Nik l>ack and m>i> hour uihor ntinona wara woot lo art Ml liiM rriip«»ct. \Vh<*D, l»r eiani|>le, ruluinliaa dia- covarrd iliu Now U'lrld, iho IVipf* «l tlial liiita nude Iha King of bpaio a I r>*««>nl uf all landa which hy lowarda iha aattiog •■a. Oilier nalmna. «ntadily accapied «■( ih««e, fomelinitia fiiim lute of ad* wnlurt't and ai <>tli<-r« lo lia\<- mi op|Htiiuiiiiy <'f propagating iboir irligii>o. '1 h« ltriti*li, in tin* ro«|>f>rt, wer« aut Iraa gan- orcoa than il f neighhtira, fur tlury Kraatcd Nt'w llampabira to • piivata t itaii, Mirylatod lo l.ord Ualiinnirr, aad Naw Eagliiod lu iha Maaaichaaeiia Company. Tha conditioai on wbich Iheao iraria v( land wvr« jraatrd waa tha payment of Quit reiiia hy ihn gr.-init>i*«. Tiio condiii<>nc, himavff, waro ■avar fyllillvd, for llio <4ait rania wara navar paid- Again, at iha tiitniinaiiun u( iho Frrnrli War, tha wholn uf Nova ticotin, Naw Uiaiuwirk, I'rioca Edwaid laland, C'apa llroten, and Canada* tlmn aliiio«t unbroken lureata over wkieh tha aavaga roanird, wrra thrown «*|N>n to LMiuiraoia. Theao landa waia »( little value tu ih« t'ruwn or to tlm giaotnra eitber, lliuagtt ttay ignoraoily or iiuprudcatly arcepii>d of them om tha taruia pro« poaad. tfoinetiim** tracia of laud were granted away fvr iba pnrpoae of paying old aoldiera for their aeriicita, or coyrtiara fnr Ihair idieneaa, and ihua • aenea of itach granta wara niada in I'rinco lUlward l«hnd. and on a acale which now we cooaidar vary unwMn, though the teraia on which thev were given wara mora inodirrale ih.in lhiM« given in ioina oin<*r rountriaa. In Ibia manner nntiou after naliuii enterrd upon ihia liuld of enter- pri»a, and right* wt>ru ronerdrd which are now ron«idered in- conaiatent with tha progrrM uf tlin ngt*. It may In* ihoeght by •oaa thai there are |»cculiar circumatancea which place propria- lora in this < 'olony und«r ubiigationa not impoaed on graoteee in other iila< ea. The iinpreMion. I believe, eiiata ihnt thay are placed Biidor conditions peculiar to thia country , aud llut tbeeo aboa d now bo enfurcad after the lapae of a century, and aAar •atalea have chancfd haiida. If ao, thoao ooiertiining aucb an idaa labor under a wroi g impraaaioo, for tba Crown jiaranad thn Mna eouraa in all bar coioniaa, in wbieb granta of land warn mada. It waa to in Nova Hcotia. Tbn qnil rania and tarisa af T M 111 I mr Liicn commis5iom. l(n •ctltfnieal w»r« onernti*, l»ul in nn in«ianf« «IiJ ih* Ctown Btop in aiHl a***!! tlir>« cltiiii«; tho InrU Wfui'i ol Prilirfiii'iit »»«'r.» iM««r ror.irrrj. Ib (hi« r».i»in) iiloue lu- l»i« Oovvo nif.m od ihem. «ihI rtfn her* tl wa« fouiiJ mi|H'MiMi« la enrry lh«iii oul. I hImII 'how tiMt •iiitiUf £»4nt« wri« tiv(>n in Nuva »«c«iiM, which nctn mter fuinileJ; anJ I -lull ■!-•«» •••••«' *•»> '••••y wert ii.il. Th« fr«'it"< *»«•!»• CI*'" ^y p»rti«'« i" r.i«j|la«»J wUii w«r<» icnomnt uf iIh« JiiritnliK** or«*iiliiiirni. -iiid I v%i1t \tfnt«ro to •tliim that not oiie •iiicIm gr.iul or rliarlor wliirh cuiiUiiimI iheta Innna am« fftar rullilltitl, anJ. furthnf, 1 bulicvo nul on» iaatanrt* can li" ah iwru in \%hicli tUn tVtuvn atfitpthl in nntl Je* inaa*iii<>v«a ri"iii Iho coun- try, or had di*^. ao ihftt no |i«*r««ia r»ulj oni'M apan tb«Mr lanJa, ■nn Iha pn»p«r owner •ti'ppi'J in iinti i •'^k p<*«4i-fri««(| tho powir if ochutl over land wliich had bcttO ntanduned. Coui. lln — I think othnrwian. Cum- Kirt mik.— 1 <«tM ntroii^iy und«-r th«t iinprrni<r«< t' m'fd N«vny, )«n I iti*>v trf^r** •lluMrf^t iti i«ai4io uiicuitiv.itrti, Ui4i lltil Mr«« in.Min n Kroand of«achu4i. Cuan. llAi.tatrnrdN. — Th.it wonid bi* 8«ii>«| trtunii t<^ .in apon III o'tinn in*fan<'«*«, |»ul ];ri«nt« of Ttrsn trnrl* nf liinl w^rn |itan in Nova Hfolia whrrti a firrvKHrn fru'niiii<*nl of Iho ^«M«*!««>w..* «f ...t:!^M.- ..' .*.' i • ■*• ••"••••" I ••••» «»••» •««••»»•• .»f nnv iaaUnea in whirh thn Crown did <••* I think it w.ii not tho prariieif; I think tho f 'r«iwn al|.iw«d ih«« hifh tt rt- iniii in th<) pM40MinN i>f iho gran(^«*«. Th>« nr\i <«llivi .'^coiin nnti N*-\v Itriina- wirk. but in tho^n ro|.»iii«»4 ih-v »vi ff» »»«\i-r r.illrt. -il, it Iim*' ool fur my l<*n!;th uf li>fi<*. Tin* ('••I* ••nf > im.; in wlucli rlain''-l*if«» |iri»j»riif .;< .if I'rinro l^wiird l«i iiid litvn I |ii ir* 1 ri I'-r 2*''* i^'tr It irl.iM(|M>^, ilt ! ii •• |My my of |Ii.- -j'iit ti i.f- * rnim It \Lf ?!Vni "X. !;•.::: •!;,•.%• .ill i..;i:.c.: t.f .. >vli..'.i colony hiviii|( ••♦•••n jrr iol»-«I ;rA ly; ulii-re, rifi" r i!o> \i\>*'- .'ifuriy y-nra, it \v:»» doutitcit by tli • fr »i*ii i l!i •• r* :%'»» ll»«r !li«} rr.>v*n ih'Mi pe«4id ihc ri^ht • f . flj.-.it, rittj >.»|. .Ii wa-i li Id l») tlio granlera vvh»'n no «i'»t*' m •«♦ %\ ill \v i- lUi!*. ai hi in .»<|2 TBI LAND C0MMI88I01I. Coan. Tmomioh." Cm yoa show iImI iha Crowa hat waiftd ill rif hit t Cms. IIalibvbtoii. — I 4o ool qaptiioo ih« ttricl l«ftl rif hi of the Cmwn to htvt doot to, had il theo iltpped ia aad •xarcittd that tight Com. Thomion— Can yoa ahow that th« Crowa ka» wirtd \t§ right .'—and I diract allvotion to ihia point, b«e«at« lo Naw Braaawiek it wai ditcovarad that iha Crawa eoatd not waiva iu righla. Coaa. llALiBVRTnn. — I thall ha prtparad to ihow iIm ••nntxla nm Mrhirh I inLii mv nnaiiinn Mi ihia fianaiinn. Ilavinv Sbawa yoar Rxeellancicf that ih« Crown hat 'intitlod apoa iba •ollartion of Qait rtoia h«ra. and with a aavtriiy anparallalad !■ Iha hiatory of tha other colonira, it will then ha my daljr to abew that tha arraara of theaa raota were reraittad ap to a eaf- Ula period ; and I ahail alio thaw that tha Crown had a ri|hl la 4b to. Having pointed oat tha poaiiion of tha propriatora la f- lalioa to tha Crown, I ahall neit ehow their poaiuon at regatdt Iha local Legitlalarat which baaaiwafa been ander tha ialaaaca af tha taaaotrf ; and I ihall ehow that iui proceedinge were eoa« iaatad in a ipirit very enfriendly to proprielora. Farther, it alMU ha my daty to thMr that tha Lagielatora hat even endaav- aiad to compel the Oritiah (lovernmeot to impoea coadiliona apan ika propriatora which were upraeiieable to fallill; and that, whan they refaaed to yield 'ut preteare, it thaa. by a aarks af acta, drew aroand them a eeriee of lawe by which even ibeir vary indalgenea waa aaed againac tbaoMelvea. I abail ahow that Cpriatora were obliged to enforce their renta by a nnoet obaoi- I moda— diauraint,— or allow arreare to aceamalata. la tbit Baaoer, by goiof over the groandt of defence alep by atap, I ihall ahow that, at regarda the collectioa of their renta, the L^ iilatnro haa refaaed tha landlord righta, to which he woald have heaa entitled in other coantriea, by obliging him to adopt aa ai« paaaiva mode of collection, ao that aoaetimee the aama collaeled ware tmaller thaa the eipeneee iocaired ia collecting ihaia. aacred their righta were« they were diaragarded. Amoag any other people, eiceptiog ihoea of a Dritiah Coloay, thia coadact af tha Legialatare woald have prodvced a civil conimotioa. I will lay that thia Island would not exhibit ita prcicnt atpect, nor have been ■ubj«cli>d to the pretent agitation, had the Lrgitlatara partaed a coarae aimilar to ihal followed by other l^egialatarae. Vat, in ipite of all llieae things, the propriatora conducted them- aelvea townrda thuir tenan'a with a npirit uf juaiice upon which we can now rely, and in which I aak lliein to come forward and aiiart their righta. Over md over again haa the Legislature hampered ilinii and maligmJ their motives ; but before the tri- banal which I now addrfoa — a tiibunal not affected by local prpjudiccs, and which cnme here under the authority of the Britiah Governmciil, uhich haa recogiiixcd the righta of proprie* tort,— I feel ttiat these righm will not be destro)ed to gratify anprincipled agiiaivra Applicaiiun«of varioua kinds have been DiaUo to the lliuie Government by the Legislature here, but in T fW \i TBI LAMD COMXISSIOK. 163 wbkli ac^iMtcMM wai rtractd. Oaring tha last Taw waaka wa kava Im4 a repciiiion of all ilia vaied <)uvtlioDa which hava agU laiail thia Culonjr for tha last half cenlarjr. L'ndar aaeh a a^aaa laonalimea full ihal it wualii taka ua a y^ar ta niaal all tha ehargea whi< '> wera prafarrad nsaiaat tha pioprietora. Aa«l ap- Cieatiooa wrara iDada to thin Cuart which wrre ditcaMad in tha eal LegitUtara, and aOerwarda rafuaad tha ■nnciion of tba Haioa Guvarnmaal. Yuar Cicalleaciea war* a«k«d i<> do wkal tka Dritiah CJovarnmaot haa repnatadlj declared it would not do, aad wkich tha Crowa, through iia uOicara and miniaiara, daclwad woild ba illcpl and aojuat. Coaa. Gmav. — Uo yoa aajr thai liiM ruMiui!«>i»« !.;;; tec: •ahad to do wliai ilia Driiitfb Uuvaraaanl haa rafuaad to par- $ttmf Coaa. llALiavRToiv. — Yaa; ynar Eiertllaneiea hafa baas aakad to ioTaatigala tha litlea of proprialora, and to wntartaio lh« flkiiBa of tba loyaiiata, which originaiad in tha laM eantary, aad wbieh tba Crowa baa pronaaaead woaUl ba aniawfal to aaao- daa. Ba< yoor Eiaallaneiea ara naw eallad apoa to go bitu % aabjocl which tha Britiah GoTaromaat diamiaaad thirty yaara •fa, baeaaaa advaraa ta tha ioiaraata of propi iaiora. ll woald naallia Iba righta of aooaa to tbair propartiaa. Nil a faw af thaaa partiaa ara daad, and tima haa aflaced iha mariia of- tha oaaaliaa. Yoar Eicallaaeiaa bava alao baan aakad for aaohaal nrtJiar, it aball ba my dat)r bafora going into tha loyaliat qaaa- Um — bafora any avidaaea ia heard on it — to antar my formal Citoal agaioal yoar Eieallanciaa lakintf any action oa it. Wa fa oflTarad no faciioaa oppoaiiion, and I now daay tha right •f thia poiiiiniaaion to iaYeaiigala tha claiinaof tha loyaiiata, an4 Mtar my formal protaai agaioal it, (hat yoar Cicallaociat ma/ h% awara of tha gruuod which 1 taka. Com. HowB. — Thia Commiaaion, Mr. Ilalibartoa, will not Ikiak it diareapactfal in yoa to taka that ground. Com. RiTCMiB.—- Wa invita you, Mr. llaiibortun, to eoaaidar tH9* p^"*. f'*f thnn^H wn doaira to giva full acopa to the Com- t i aaiaa, atill wa do" not wiah tu exceed our powara; in«i«uM«i wa aball ba glad to hear yoa diaeuaa tha point. Coaa. HALiBvareiv.— *S ia not bicaaaa we haye any dread on hwhaif of the proprietora, for their righta are aa valid and good aa are thoae of any men in the Briiiah doininiwuf. We ■laod hare with righta which cannot be invalidntrd by anyCom- ai^aiuo. To infringe upon ihcm would be ihii going beyond what I cnniidvr to bo the iimila of your Conuiiiitiiinn. 1 apeak thua that the people may know wo bold our luitth by on inde- faaaible title. Let thorn not imagine wi: have iiu riglitn. or thut we atand here merely through tnu ft*! bear unco of tlu! Dritiah Government. 1 tuy %ve stand here with ri){!itr« recognized by law, and which cannot be violated on rquititble (irinciplea. Many piopoaiiiona have been made here npnatcJIy, which were rafoaad before, bat hava been brought up in a fomewhnt new ■ '*■?- .v^ ■ 161 TUB LA!€0 tOMMIIIsro^l. drtftd id tn^ We Coro- 10 in- tt>t ro- inJe- oi that DritwH zoJ by iiciple*. h were hnt new form. It U till old •••ry almoi old »«|«:itb1ef, pr^a«^iH is a ■tw Jrot* lu hi:ik«i jTAar rAr.tWunrif-, t)ciii!\i* ih«*> «nr i|aitA n^w. Cum. Howe— I {irciuinu iho ttt^aair) *>C Vtmcn I'dwrard !«• land aro ninr •«(•?. '. (*onn. ll.\Liauiirn!« — Thn tfniiniiy nre wnrlhy of |ir«iM. It i« tlifl iitcii wliu, wiiil rt"|t- oi ilm I.im-«, h«ttl out in«lu'*ouirni« to tha leiiauiry i>i ru'i^t itio iir>>{iriutoi4 nnd \iiitaii> ili«ir roiiiraeta; ihcM arn l^<] in<*i} who luvn llirti-.rn iir<>lp|t<«riuiiii)- waa afTurdtd tenanfa tw •l>t<^ :!•%•• «f !iii»«//i •/>!'«• I'l p'ff rfnl, mnii iliii ih«y finrivd th«y WDfi* •rtf*. Pul I lioiti iiiii nil Mi«lu4iriou« .1 nn, vvliii I4 ««illia§ and who u)id«.'Nvar« Hi futitl iii4 lM*a«-«l obltiKtiiiunf, i« a aaif. l^o Waf a« t**ft«nM i^uii l«iia*a ul' Ufil ye»t* do itit*. tlt«>y inav dafy Itioir landlufda, or any ••iiu-r cIhm «>f lann, to injara lliaM. Tbaao inca, mi Um^ .ta ili«y fuiliil ilioir •tii^a^AiittfitU* hold a poaiiMiN tt« liuuviauiu ua ilui of any oiiior cia«« of laan in Uiia country. Oaii. rHr»M«o5i. — Whitt riflit hi« a |*rn{>ri<>t(>r lo inaka ** iraiti r ti!M, m t^im rnMtl4. «1rain<«, M4i<*r riiur««M, pomh, damn, woifit" and all i<«iri« t*r i*^ on a iMPaiit*« i'arni .* Conn. MALin''aT(i> ~\Vn hivtjlicfn rillrl h»rM to invaa- ligitn re^l rtniplnnt* >*r fttvvtiwa*, not tho»« wliirh might hav^ h<-»n orii not When niMrrhrd into tuany orihn<*i> fli'trd .i-x:\v. \V>! «i\v tint i* vv'i« i ri^lit which nJfM kuve h<»i! », rnth r tUm (*nr u!ii.:|i hn-t -ff -i, iihu**')!. .•'o — anar fe hirg n|;ilili«ti, -11:1! .ifiMf iii;ir>p;H.il« vv>*rb' <'' 'Miijl i»;h'*>' wi'rn w>>iiird ••ui, and ev«>n lh<; |iro|Mi'''tii;iinin|f in Iho cMito <2<>*i-rnir"iit wAaid 'loi «aitctien Iha prnpoiiila uf tho l.rt;i«l.iiuro — ra4«i|tfii«MM wuro at Inngih adofftwl by the llooae of A«««'>iit>iv t.r«p ••■••• « ;.. I..,,..,,|,»i«u« mm Iha diapaioa miitinf httMroen ** liii> Kurd and tanant." Thia dunn, pr«pri«|iira raiiio forwanl and g»ii«rou«!y Mid in Ibani: *' XV <• ara vvilhng hi oiiffi )ou hi*r«wi« a rnimni-iiiua and lu arnuit^M'H in ri|aii.iblii t«!iiM« of Miiih'itt**oi, tr tu ichefa l«u« «nf« f.tiiii nny <|i!l» •«•!?!•?• il'..!:;r ;v!:;v*!i :!i. • >uaj h- i4tiuring ol aecouni vf ih** Imi.I urj «)•'•. ti;" I aUitl .i>kv tftnl tiio Ui^aolu* liona of ilto llou:4H .)i° .\»«>.iii.'') .— ••Whoii'sa c«rt:iiii <|ranta of thi' liiul* III Ihi* I-'. I! ' <»'vorally 'mIIimI iln* r«ch<'it '{■'•■iiiun, tho Ki( of llit« f-l.ttid, ir.d muiy di-luaive piojuctrt and iiiipractii'ulito inra^urea liiivo h* t-n, niid nr** fruin limn to liuK*, tnunciniul ri'<|»i>cling xurli qiii< ti«*ai«, \vhn, .ind .'uc snarly iinpn^fil u,o!i, and induced to «>up;-orl th** | ri>|i(iu'i«l< m ofrinh Mi«*;i4iirr!*, UM.|i.>r tho dcla«ivo hopo tlMt hy dii ^ 4.) Mioy will Ln rcliitvid fri in llio payment i ! T TUB LAND COMMI8810K. 16.1 hi of r«nt; and the aiivntinn both of the p«nplc and l.<>|i'*lNture b«ing occap««>«i wiib aurh dnri'ptivn nrh'Mii**); tnenvuri** iftitiiitg to <1«^ Inpe «hff v^cnuurct-s uf \)m Coltiiiy »tr, not only nc^'t rir ■•Mriflv. niually i>ppop<>ii I'o ihe moral, xonn', antl poliMcal welTain of ilic |>« vpln and ilicir iruu inlere#l», i« pro- duet'd; and wlierrai* varuMH Ilrapatcho* litvv for a grtvl itutu- ber ufytara drcbri'd itiai li^jr .Muj«!ti> '*« (luvrrniiMMii v«i!l not cunarul !u any roiiipuUnry ir.tr rferenn* \>illt tbo Lnd4 ano righta of till- l'riipri<-tt)ii«. am! wliirti laa i»t*cn tlrongl) rtiforaird in the |it'i>p:i(cl><-<* ol'f^ir )'.dvtj4il llulwer I.)if>>n — itt*vv ll«r Ma- jeaty'a pr:iicipal t'^vcrftuy *>( Statu Cos llu> f 'uloiiivi — dL-| , |r>u9. Aod 'm «'i «.i'liiut:i , i.'w.", f .'.V.l.h It IT clear lliui any ni«'a«ure<« fir the hcnvtii of tit«> 'I'lMiaitlry mud rn* aa't from niiiirn!ilo nrr.it)g<-iiifiit with the rri'prii.'t<>rA; and whe. >;afi ihc agiu«t<>n of (i<">lilc iiiea*uri!«, purh aa i ncht^at, Fiahrry Iic«ii-r\o«, and li'iil lU'nl^, mutt nfi oi.!y n-auh, aa tiiuy •liva)« h^fVfl dune, in Ifadio^ the ti-nai tr) hmo roaia and trouble, writhuut, iiiig ihviii di'>» lik**'y t<> •ntirtxiu; nii.l u h»!ri>a« Sir I'dwa/d Rufwf'r Lytton in hi** !V«|iti< h«a aho\« ivCvtiid to. whiU; it-rus- iog to sanction MM'»«urHt uhich in Inglaiid nte cun:*idt.'r('d in* conaiatont with tho ii. hit nl |>ropi>rly, haii «r>iiii) ui tu cu -opiralu wilh iho Li'g« isltt':;ra in rurih»rinig n.r iturt •< tor the KiiUnient of tiio land tonurta, if 'eonctiived in .n apirit \>f fairniKa and cuncitiation to all paiiiea *:>- **Ther$forf. IReioh**!, lai. That a huoihie addrnna bo pr*- aented to lie? .Maj»;«ty, \\*ti)\t\% that lit*r M.'«j<>4ty will he plvaaud to direct a rouiinioaion to anma di4cr>'«>i and smparlial neraon, not coonsctad with thin laland. or its allair«, to en*re into tho eiisting rdatiur.a h»'tween Landlord and 'IVnanV, a^d tu negoti- ate with the TroprHMitia for nurh ahalfinrnt of pr«-iiii|( iIim Tii • Iw w...i..:C '.\.^.: letaehulda into fn-* IioIum, ma — without inrringitig on the righta of tho land'orda — m^ty h«5 faiiiy and rcafonably a!«kcd for tu umuli' orate the condition ot' th<) 'l'«Miantry. " 2d. Rt'iulttdt That in the opinion of thii llouaO: the bnaia of any audi arrang'Mi.fui •thwuid '>•• a Inrgi; rcniinaion oi' arreara ofrenia now duo; and a>f- >i>dly, itui giving <--very tenuia 'lolding taodt;!' a long leoatf an rplmn xf purrli.iMPg hia luod ut a certaia rate, n! any tiiii<* hu might linl it convenient to do v. " Jd. /Xf(o/rf7, I'iiat a rcinianKin of arri'ara of r<'ut iiiny be reaaonably asked, inaKiiHu h aa ih«> ekintenco uf theau arrware, alttiough It iit due partly to uu ut)williiigni-)«s uf tho tenaola to pay rent, under the idea hnt Kncheat, vt aonie other duiuaive fichenie, would ecabt*! ihctu t<: evado; yet it ia alsu dieran*e, in many raaea, the nrreara, how' etror incqrreJ, aiiiou<>t to *o lar^e a sum, that the exactiag tbem 166 TOI LASID COifiMlSSIoy. be ri, 10 ve irt ta w- :in woald provA rein^qt t«t • Ur^« namb^ of loyal ami iadMtri ptopU; ttiHl would faitttar M«urely |i«i ii oat o( ihaiir powar !• •vait ih«iiiMlv«««irili« pUa naKaaied is •abaeqaeui raaoiatioMt for |»«rchsaiag ibcir r«riufl. ** 4ih. Rtwlttdt Thai aa iha cireamtiaacM of tba taatotrj ivd«'d ant in gi;n«ral fa.ibl« ibfin to pay (luwn any iarga pot- tioa of tha parchiaD iiutnr) , the h#«t and only niMoa lor eoa- vaninf iho (aonrri into f(e«h«tl-*• •* !!n:j, l;;-.^: Lm aaving« at laicrect lowanic tlio paiehaaa of hm farm, aa arraag** meni whirh eoaid be trfTacted by (ha rif doing 90, and that the intereat oa the tea Seandt, or uihirr amonnt to paid, ahoald thenceforth go ia ra> action of hia Yearly rent, and t'l on for every payment on as- coant nf parchxae, aniil the whole waa paid, wh«n he ahoaM receive hia Je«(i; anil ibat aimiUr cownanta ahnnid be iaeertad ia all fatare lpaa«rt f rmaover forty yearc. l^«ch an arranga- aaeat woaid nu; on*; give the leoaat the advaauga of pay tag ao iaatalment of hia parcoaae amney, and at the aane tinM raoae- ii^ hie reat whencvrr he choee, wiihcet aabiectiag him lo Om veiation aad eoata incideat tw caaee of inability lo omoI umuI- ■Mata agrewl tu be paid at a particular day, bat woaM. ia tbo •INaioa of thta floaae, graiieaily, bat certainly, ekaage the iao> 3tm iato frtehi>l*ie withnat the aid of loaaa, aad the eipaaeivo fibeiatenee uf PabiM Oifieere, by which heavy iiabilitiaa have already beer., and woaid, if p«>raavared in, to a macli graaiar •aiaaft, ba lai p oaed oa (he pabiic iSoancaa." From tiaeae re«eia(iona it appeara (hat anything which mc.f b^ efl«c(ed oiaat be done ihroegh (he propnator ua the one hand, aad the tenaal oa (he utlter; and I (hmk many (|a«a(iuna have come ap liar'mg (hia iov««iiga(iiia. which U>««e reaoluiiona do aot erobraci'.. Ao hainbln adJrii«« «»^« feraoa, not chuw what haa been recng* R';' i*. I)j!y*» .i.^jtittrli^ \.i 29, of (h«< 1u h y\d\ l.i«t. aiMn-^irtd !.• .«ir P. li. I >tt |ti>u*< -.tf Afi-iMiiul) , m pur«aJtnr(> of •-•'ii.tm i!(!ii( ilm lluno', |ir.i\tiif lint lltff ^I..j "Sty wiiwIJ «l!r<»*t .1 C-Miiiiii-^Bi.'n lo iti'|Ui'»» inl't iho ••»• !iti{*i| (•■' it:>-n« < r i..i'''i<'« l^l uk], v% itii • s !••« 1. 1 ll,'» i» i^-^iri I'f f'd.'iliil ii.r:i«ur'"« 'IJi*' il<>u<> i-f A"*- «etiili*v »'•> |*r '(•'>iii' tiinl il.ii» r'fr "Itoiil.) dir .ct i'« iil- «,'ll' ■)'! to ?i « I l»!ll IV III • t ,1' tjlll'- Mil. *• Tit*: r"«;ji«.«!>i»ri if ll«'r ^l 'V«M » ! •«.■ *;,ivt"n iH-;*t !••• |»fH- .♦•nt««I •■(» •vir'ifr n'i« \ . r t . y ir i* •; :'. u. •* Tl,.' A""*** i.l'ly , III I'll T \ I lr'>««. fl »t '>nly |irijf fT »it«-' i»p- ■.•'~t'iin)<*it •>! a 4' ) ii!iM>«i 11, iiui lli -v lt»< mi< iii>Ii<*Mtf, m Jrtaii, Ilia mi :»»'ir« • whi •», ill ;liiir «'pi i > i, *h 'ir'l fmiu iho It>4i4«>f tllll .«r> iil^i' iMMi' f,. l.^l■•tt |.ti,l'..ii niiviulj ••iii|«-,t« if lil Ui «i: £ :i ' ' ' a|. N •• tV , V« 1! 1 1 'iJl i K ■ |irit-«iti4 liiy ••iiHii "I .(.{viMi- lo (III) .t,,| I'lt'ii iif nl ■ i<:li a ('. lu- liii»i«i"ii, i I li • xit •K'"' (I ll: il iiii) !>' •!' ';' •■' '• I' •••(• It' rt Halt Ifufii II* 1 I. .if* uou ll l»o iia'ti!)t«ij. ti I- »' ; >'i«iui>iif< •• iliO A"*' u'l.y w . I ii. i« '.III, •••««'. "I r.iiHii.i .i'l» -t H-f M;» hIj m « iii< Ttti'i til ' •! Ki'iitWi. uii- CM It I* itft ^ u I t 'fi •■ i I'l . it<« f 'oiiiiiMO. xi a. c ill l*<.-(ty t j ^w^'—*! any (iiM 'Ji. M III il «) l'JUI«<'lt«'# «'• <'»M • .1. ■U.I bit 1 i It < COIIIHiUilir .li'J lill> irifAiM iikli'iM'ii lo "^u .S. ('uii uj. «• rr|>ri'MM,'«i>^ til- I «n>l-n.»r |m I >♦• &' (M^u.d) •' NKAVCA-^riX Hi K .Nil V III i.tv c R, I i.«nitf }*' rrularj. (Cftpf.) •• D.iwiii ,t r*t*i..»i. fi:h Si«pi , l-^ii ** dm,— I itiK directfil tty iti«> huK<- of N>«irr««tifi in iranamit 10 yoa • ''■'*Pf "' " c<*rr««;» Hiil>inr( b"lH<-ritffienl of fnae* Mward ic'snd una liii* di>parun«*:tt. a|»«fn tna au'ifMit of the ■pt>ointai««l (if a foiniAMtiua lo proiM>»« ini*a*are« of ar> raBgi*moat iMtwoen landlocvl* and irnnnia m Pnnro tldward Itlan^. **\\ hH rofor^ncw to thia rrtmfnaniraM>tfi. I am io aaff't Ihal jroTi wovMI call a iKivaii m^mttnt f^f •ii<'li liuidutrn^ra aa muf hn tc th« CMMtfjr, and a«A<*rtaiii wh^tlier ili<>rH arc anif concMatoaa wtiidi tliay ar« ruadjr to maka, with a vii>«v v( bria|«ng (has* qitaotioa* lo •■ Kuiiealila iMu«* •• I am, Itr , (HifB.d) •• II. M£RIVALE. **dir S. Cua«r4. ••A lr«« cofjr, "llsHRv DvLwia, Trivata Socrcirry " 168 Tni LAND COMMISSION. Con. THOMtoff .—It if th« •* righu." yoa m*. Cmh. HALiauETon. — No; it is the "ciiating relations.'* Ho Mjs ho woatd oot ailrito tliom, if hampored by tho torma laid doara by the Lagiitaturo reiparting parchato. The labora of iho CommlMion ** woald be nallified, if iia actioa were fat- tared bj lach condiiiona aa the AiMinbly would thus impoto.'* I ihall now read the letter of Sir S. Canard :— (Copy) *' Bash lliil lloaae, Bdinonton, 13th Fob., 1860. ** My l/ird Doke, — We have be-*n rurniihed with a copy of a Memorial, eddreMed to llor Mij>t• -ifotiate with the l*ro,irietnrs of the Townihip Laada for fixiof 'irtain rata uf price at which evory Tenant might have itie option of parr.hasing hi« Land; aud a\«o to oegoiiata with the I'roprietors for a ramitaion of the arrears of rent, ia each cases aa the Commiasiooer* might deem reasonable, and E reposing that tho Commissioners shuald report the resoit to lar Majesty. " As large Proprietors of Land iu this Island, we beg to stata that we shall readily acquiesce in any arrangement that may be firacticable, for the purpose of settling the varioos questions al- adad to in the Memorial from the lloaso of Assembly; bat wa ds Owl iuiuM iiim ma appoinimeni oi' CummiMioners, m the maa> Bar propoaad by them, woald be the most desirable modaof pro- cadara, as tba labora of sach Commission woald only terminata ia a Report, which wonid not be binding on any of the padiea intarastad. " Wa bag, therefore, to suggest, taat instead of tha inoda pro- poaad by tha Hoa^e of Assembly, three Commissionara or Rafii- raao shoald ba appointed — one to be named by Her Majeatv, on* by the Hoasa of Assembly, and one by the Proprietors of Land; and that thaoa Commissioaors slioald have power to entar into all the enqairiea that miy ba necessary, and to deoida apon tha diflSiraat qaastions which nay ba broaght before thau, giving of eoaran to tho parties intereatad, tha opportanity of being baar4. ** Wa shoald propose that the expenea of tha Commiaaion aboald be i/orna bv ina three partiee to tha reference, that is to say, ia at^aal thirds, and we feel assarad that there woald ba no dimealty iii aacaring the adheeioa of all tha landed propriarora to a oattlomaat on this footing. , '^■ii^*-"--WVJ>W<'-^«Wlj0.»in4 nacU qu«^iion« ai have rarereoce to the («ahj*fct matter of our inv«>«tigitiiiin. But thnre waa one dulicale in<«iiiu.ili«m ilirowii out the oIImt dny by aoiiio eae, to the efTuct that ihi« (Joinmuaion might liud it neccsitary to aitend itt poweni. Coon. IIaliburtc/N. — The (|ulativo to the rights of Land ownt forth its ugroe- mest to abide by the Juciiion of any Aur.h (.'ommi^iionnr^, or tha majority of thsm, and to concur m witttuvur uicuoutt .» m^^ Lo reqaisite for giving validity to tlieir decision. \iiJ wiiorous it if highlv deairablo that the said ditftiruiicei hIihuM Uh .-idju^it^d. ** Now, know ye thtt we, taking tho prumHOii into our Royal consideration, are graciously pleaded to noinin.it*: .-in:::::iinulo unJ appjini '.>'jr tru<*'.y sn«l welUbeloved John Hamilton tiray, ilM|uirH, our trusty and well- beloved Joseph Howe, Ksquire, und our trusty and woll-belovud John William Ritchi»f, R^iuiru, to bo our CoinmHiioneri for cn- ? lairing into the said ditl'ijr'Mice^, and for aJjuiiing tho same on air and eqaitable principles. ••Given at our Court Rt Bucki'ighnm P.il.ice, this Twon^y- fifth day of June, IBCO. in the Twenty- fourth year of our Reign. **Dy Her Majesty's Command, ••NEWCASTLE." Connected with the Resolotinns of tlie Huumu of Assembly t« tbia yonr Excellencies* Commission i Com. IIowB. — You see it i* stated " upon just and aqoitiUln principles; ** not merely on princt|>ies of law. 13 190 IHE LAND CoMmSSiON. CnoB. G«.ir — Y •• Hnvm infurinMi 04, Mi. ll«libarlo«, what we tntt not ({o in'o; will yua domt i^ii •« what we can take if ^ IJuun. II iLiBirRToM. — \Va kavn no deiiro (a reetriet the piiweM of your K&cHllearieii. We are williaf to allow jro« to go into whitt i* lt'«il aad rigUl. Coin. iiuAr — Hut we would really like )ou to define oar Dowcri. Afior wliat Mt. IIowm mihI Mi KiirhiM Imve «iiid. vna Bee we iiiiiy iionaihly fiiiHisd our pi>w«*r<«, and mo, in your view, we would rHally likn lu know wliul lliM^t: *rv. Il would be aat* iaf.iclory lo all parliei* lo know. ('ouii II A 1.1 BUN I u:« — I do itot wiiiii to reatrici yoo. Ciun. Tiii>M»oM — l>o»'4 \||. Ilnlihurltn adiiiit your F.icel- lenri*«a Nave poAMr, wIimu ho iiuk* <• u furoial ol*j*Tiion (o il ' He apptfiTM to <*»y you \ut\v tliu power, but a Ida, " Iteiiiauiber my pr>>l«>di but if ollierwiae, **ihurM i« iiiy |»rnl«at " Com. R I re III K — Sli (old wp go beyond th«* e«t»»nt of oer coiiinii««iioi It would l)iv«> ilo* ••ITort of iniikinf i(iv.ilid the whole of our |iro Hfdii>^<; iIkt* I'trr it H bullnr foi all pirtiea thtt the ruint be fulu in -MxilHtl. Il i4 to go into f|U4!ation4 whioii vou h.ive no rigiu to inv»*!(ligiite nor |>ow<;r to deride. If your V.icellei:cina lia\e no powt-r to go into iIih i|ue4lion of iracheat, let Mr. Iljliburtoa aay to, that mo in.ty know hia viewa on that point. Com. llowK. — Mr. Il.iliburton haa a poifMot rij^ht t't qaoatioB the juriadiiMiitn of iIih (?uurt. He h:ia a porfort right to aava Vnar'tnlvRa find your rlinnl^ Iroultle liv ohi<>rtifiir to ih** now«r« of tliH Court to Kr) no '|uo'4Ii,mh; but I protuino the aafewt ct>ur4o for ihu Couorii:! to puiiuc wiulJ be to aay, *'A4- BUiniog thtt ihia (?oiiiinit4ion hii to in* veatigattt and decide ap4>o all thate 4|ueatioea, thua my oaaa la ••fiUd.'* Coun. il ALiBURTON. — .\ny queitt:on comint h«tfure yo«t Eicellenciua iiiuvt be onn bAiwoen " l..'indloid md Tenant " Com. rSiiAr. — Have we, or have we not, power to rev^t arreaia of r«Mit ?* Coun. llAMBimTON — Y«>u have, undoubtedly. I believe that you have recoimiiHiided that thity bo given up Conn. Gra''. — I wi»h you to g • on noM and mention io de- tail the thicga which wn luvo pownr to do. Vo« admit wo have power to rtsinit arrtt^ra of rent. Ilav** ae power lo aay that tenania ahall ruceive their farni'i ua fair tMruia ' Covn ll4LtBuaToN-— Yea. Com. Q« a % «-NoWi go on, and eomplttt the enumeration. Com UaLiBuiTon. — Your Eicellonciea have already da- elared tKat yoa had power to go into any question coining before yea, eo it would ba qaite uoneceavary. -"l THB LAND iomilbMloN. 191 Cm». RiTCNii. •— Wt will recAivs aii inm •vidanr* nrhicli «r« caa obinin ott JifTtiri^nt <)U(*«iiuii«, ncJ bv and by wa ■hall iM whatker or aot wa hava powar to do thw or ibul. The inara fact thai wa racaira all ibe fviUanaa wa nun on varioaa qacalioaf , doaa nut prova that wa will dacid«» opoa iheni all. Com. Howg. — Aa regarda th«i Drvpatch of thn DaltH of New> caatia, I think wa may n.iy, aa w.m t»nce aaid uf thn nmjority in ratli«in«ii», Tiiai iii«y nna p«iwer to do an)ihing eirepiin| to make • roan of war.** (I^ughiar.) Our p>wer dn^a not at- caed that. Rut h«v)t wa not powar to don) with thiii qanaiion BOW andnr inti^iiigaliun, in all it* brnad ralmionn ? If thia Commiaaion thnuld d^cida opnn )ioiiiethiiig ru tabrs, and not be nsying " I believe your powera are ra* Mrieted to the C'int, at the luiiie time, )oa may protevt agaiaat oar taking auch aod auch tiewa oa any qauaiioa. Coaa. IIalibunton. — 1 intend to do ao. Com. Cf KAT. — We will aoi limit yoa in any particular. Yoa nay doabt oar power to go into the Loyaliat or any other qaaa- tloa, which we with to invaatigata; bat wa woald like to know what y»ar view* are toaching the powera of thia Commiaaion. Coaa. THuMauM — Wa admit that thia rommiaaioa haa opij oowar to deal with cenaral qaeMiona. bat Mr. llanaleT ia of tha opinion that the powers of your Racelleneiae real a|Kin tha Aci. Coan Pal Mam. — Your poaition ia very different from oara, u yoa hava every thing to fain and nothing to loaa. Caas. (iitAr. — Go on, Mr. Ilaliburtua, wa nra aorry yoa hava hMa |Nt«irriipi«w] in the euarae of your remarka. Cava. HALiauMToif. — Thia qutfatiun of tha Loyaliata ataadt aat qaiia awpHraie from all olhera. Your ElKr.cllaacie party ' It mat'era not whether it waa the aoo of a proprietor or 192 THB LAKD COMMISSION. •ay «th«r p«rMa who oMy Imv« b««i p«t ia pmmminm of UM, M jno Imvo rappo«c Althoogh Iho pr ivilogo of aolocting oach roaimioatoaor hot eonforrcd on a aoparaia aaiboriijr, ao aa iho bottor lo o«« aoro aaliafaelkio with tho cooipoaiiioo or tho Coiiimiaaioa, yoi it m my viaw, and I doobc oot will bo that of tho Coromioaiooort tbomaoivoa, that nooo of tbtm ooght to bo regardod aa tb« •poeiol advoeato oTooo intoraat, bat raihor that tho wholo ahooM dovoto ihoir oflbrta to framing aoch recommoodatiooa aa ahall b« domandod bv iho aqaiiy of tno eaao, and bo eiNidocivo to llM gooaral good of all elaaaea of tho eommaniij. Thair eoncloaiooi* whotovor thoj may bo, will poaaoaa dooblo weight if bappilj (koy ahoold bio nnanimuoa. ** 'llio timo of mooting ia Priaeo Rdward laland will \n boot dolcrmined by thr (*omniiMioaora thomaolvoo. who will bo abia to oommonicato wiib yoa oo any poiola which thoy wiab to ao« oarula a* boanog oo tho qoeaiiuo of tho moot eonvaaioat porio4 for tho porpoao ** It wiii bo doairabto that protioaa arrangomoota ahoald b« Biado, aa far aa praelicablo, for baviag at hand all witnooaoit and all docomoatarr ovidooeo which tho Coninioaioa io likoly to roooiro, oo thai tho timo aoodod (or thoir aciaai aitiing ia tkm lafand may bo rodoeod within tho moti modorato eompaaa ooa- alaiool wiih tbo doo aad eomploto aeeompliabmoai or Ibo aa- qairy. ** I ahall taka aa aarly opportaaitf of forwardia^ to yoi • Commimiao aodor tbo R(7ai Sign SUnoal, conuiaiag tba a^ po ta t m oni of tho aavaral goatlomoo aamad to aorvo oa tbo Coa»- ** I bavo tbo booor to bo. Sir, '* Yoar obodioat aortaal* (digaod) •• NKWCAaTLC*' <• Lioai. Govocoor Daadaa.*' CooB If ALiaoKToif.— 1 am not proparod to aar what eoarao tba Britiah Govrmmont may poraao. I boliavo, nowovor, that Um dociaion of yoar Escalleoeioo will bo aatiafactory to tho Pro- priotora, who, l boiiovo, aro aa willing to bo rM of thoir tonanta aa tba teoanla aro aniioaa to got clear of iboir laadlotda. (Hoar, boar.) There baa boon more eorreapondenco abvnt wild laada, aad more tronbl* caoaed to eorroapoadeota, and timo loot, tbaa IM TBI LAUD OOIOIUSIOV. mmiA hftv* tMbM Umm. Im4 itoy Urn pw f ww M il mm, !• biT* Mrsod iha Undi ProprMUr*. I balMv*. will b« liMrtilf |M 10 emcmi m tav rMmubl* •dj/m^mmL I b«li«v« jow fijMlkaeiM eaa Ml Moid* oik«r«iM iImb vUl b« wImTmUtj U Um ^oprMtort. I mw omb* u Um mod* adopiwl by Um toaaala' r«pr«MBtativM, Md ib« Gov«raatMt, iiom this Cowt kM bM* ofMW. A* w« cmM Ml procars a wtitlan •taUniMl of tba groaada of ibair «lainM« wa naM Uka lh« opaaiaf mnmm th mm aC ilia CoaaMi lor Iha loMauy, ia urdar lo htcaruia Iba bMia apoa whicb ihajr ara nada. 1 afeail aliarwaroa aak Qui 10 prodaea aviUunca u> ahow tbal ihair aiataoioBla wara falfiUad. I ahail aak thain lo prodaea avidaaea to ahow ibal iha condilioB of tb« lanantrj ia worra lliaa ihat of aarfa, aad UiM iMva tha raaali lu jMr Escallaaciaa to deeida. I ahall ■baw, too, thai tha prupoaitioa aboat arreara or real, accaniaUu Im ibroagb iho faalt of iha propriatois, baa failed, ao that hart*- aAar wa nay aay it waa a libol oa them. Wbatavor arreara Ihara are, have beea caaaad by obataclM ihrowa in I be way of iJbaiff eollection, and by political ngiuiiuo. I iball ahow thai ia M iaatance liaa a prupriator allowed thi«n to accuiuulale, aad than pounced duwn upoa a tenant to avail liiniacif of ihe benefil of hia fraud. To have dune a tenanta f ■f fo, il ia not adaii«aablo. They muai not indulge a fancjr at tha proprialor'a eipgreo, Ibao the aarroondiag Coloniwe; and that eo far axe the pwpla Crotn being iinpovMri«h«^, that more tbaa tha amoaat of the raata ia coaaaaied 00 articlea of laiary. Now if theae people ara ao - w hey could poor that they can juat keep their boiliei and aonla together, how can they indulge lo ao great aa eateat in laaurica f The; ipi B la the land poor or worthlcaa ? I ahall hey indulge to ao great aa eateat in loaurica t l ney couia They would he obliged to spend all they had to aparn oD lere neceeaariea of lira. I anall ahow that all theae talee of to they indulge not. Th( the mere poverty erp not correct. ahow that it ia fup<>rior in quality to that of the aeiahboriag Coloiiief , and that ihe agricultural produciiooa of thii iJaod are groater than in the other Culonieo. If we ahow theae thion bo 00, the queatioo will ariae: If theae mea come here wiUioat neanf, are poor, not bron^ht ap to farming, and oppreaaed with reola whicb \hay are unable to pay, why do their eiporta eseoed thoir iroporta ? I ahall ahow that it ia monatroaa, and the reaolt of agitation. Again, if the land ia productive, aad farnera caa TBI LAHD COHMISSIOV. 195 Xi rain gopd eropa aa^ Mi4«rMll htm*n m llini't Coaolji Nova Seotiat I ahall <>nqaire whatbaf tir uoi Ui«ir bvrUtbipa ariaa frooi tiMir l««Ma, whoihtr (bar* ara any pac a liar lira aboat tbaaa aa to raauieliuaa Aboiii wimmI or ihn rif bl of aatry by iba propriator far caftain pur|Htaaa, wbiob I l>t!ti«va ara nada graanda oi eaaa- plaial. Hul I aball ahuw ih.ii m laadlord bai naver declitiad aU lowiag a raapaculda (aiiaal lu ranigo bia laaaabold miaraal, and that ao iojury iuia aruan fruai Km rigbl of aoiry. Cuai. Howe— 4?aN yua «b >«« Uut no proprialor bat avor pra* vaoiaa a iitoAm irum i«»i||iiiMx •!•• i«u«« .* Coan. l*Ai.MKH. — I b^tntv*' no uvidaoco baa baan givan to ibat audi hta bnan (l.iii« in liia leaaa to Mohibit t% trnint fioiii u^ing hi-« p4>ckcUli.indk<'rrhi< f, would that ba a grievniirr * Conn. II ALincni nv. -~ Kvfry m;in h;i!i i rigbt xn bia own. Ifa proprioior |tri'\on(-« ,i i' n ini (mt\ Hrllin;; ((i« fnriii to a Toiii, Dick, or II irry, l*»nlf'd l»y lii-n land- lord from '•uititig wiMiil I'fTIm f»r;ri. Tl f ••hur<<,tn4 fr ini ioj'irin.; llio Innd, aiul tbHQ leuvioK it to tiin pro;iri«*iiir. U'<: hii%»n •nijlii f^r»riini>»n«l thnt rortain r««rirtion« bo removed. If diiiicu'tii-M i,i\« iriitMi tV.iiii claufi'a of rc^lriritun in lease*, by poiiTtmg liioao oni (o prnprtctorii. (h«>y \rnuld be quite witling tu nar« thptn ren»ovrd. And fnriher. If n<'cw«.-ary, )oo tnight re- eotim>end tli.it arr«;ar'i oir^ni be wipoj out. Cuun Thomson. — Tbu laiidl>>i ( illcd upon tha tunaatry to ahow tli'j i)r:iiiuy «f landlartls, wlut did (ii':y d*' -^ Tbejr related ulj w«>ni«>n'a liitt-<, uiiPi to ho Ik^d lMf>irt' tiiiii iribunil« and eve;: •*{ th'.su nuinu i,Ti^'sjai LAVD oomuMjoir. I iImII kt | wi yn< M iImw tkit tfM vTy^MM liiritiihri ||v«tt M UiM fSMN »tr« piiff(Ktl]r ■■■ 1H 1I. I iHinli ih«y mmI !■«• IkM Mrack v««f KaMmacMi. H«fr« iIm iMMiMrf tl K wi dMI llMk UadMa Imv« f«w«r !• mkm iMai ai aity ■■■ft. Mi llMl tiMf Imv« MWtM il t I alMll tiMw 4t%m •iimiIm m !•!«• af f«l««iiM. la tfMM «• Mw h*w Ml«fml il U mr attrj hms !• try •• hmIi* iIm Wd bargtra Im «•. WHm mIi«4 iMpactiC Um fataaaf ilMir paf rti— . ywir Ei««l- Mr* yM !• f iv« tf i i Mc a ««« m #«ifMiaM« ImIihm ■ bWy al yaMMsrj m I havt sal la aaf Maairj. ThMgti T iMva aa rti iiitoa !• ilMai, f u m m^llj, siill I «y il m aai far ikaai M valaa ikak awa prrparliaa; aa4 I SMiauia ikai tiM valaa af laaif wkiali ilMy lava givaa it mi la ka 4ap«a4M aik af ika rakaiaiiaM af aaaM mm Um vaiiiiiy uf laa^brii* TWl hM Mm 4aliala< aa laac aaiaag iImm, aa4 haviaf VMi i«ai BM aaaa aMaiM aa laag aaiaaf laaai, aaa Mvwf htm UU vvar aa4 999$ agaia ikal im ftrafiriaiara had man lillaiL llMf kallava— aa a laibar afilM llaaaa af A«aa««biy aiaraaM^ k— Ikal laa41or4a arrfl Um ibair prapartiaa, a«a ibajr will aa«a ia fer a ilMta af iW apail aa4 im faa4 liaaa. Tkm (mmcj km •^mIImUm V 1 ^ ^ ^ .0. ^ c IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) // i.o IL25 ttA 12.8 92.5 ■^ 1^ |2.2 I.L I '^ "- ^ ■■" m U KI.6 «at«' raat aaa fair %alaaiioa f Coaa. llAi^iau«ro]«.— .||«ca«aa par caai. Cam. RiTCNiK.— 8cppo«a « maa looh • rarni, v(f mbicb b« c««U aol pajr iba real, wosM \om ••limtio iic valua at <«ratiy jnaft* {larcbaM .' C'eaa. llALiatfaroiv. — I weaM. A maa may taba a* aa- Ula, loobiai f«)rward lo tb«i lima whrn landa woald ii«a ii: valMt aad. ai saeariij for liif moaay, hm miglit allow arrcart oF rMl lo aeramalait, balieving that ho wnotd |ol liw num^j in Altara. (Vappoae Mrido-:Ta and otphan* to b« aolrlj d^prndtnt ■pan iba raaia of ibrir revprniTa e«ia(c«. lo trdaco ihrM fioni la. la ail ponea an arrn mny appear iriHipg. hat if applird lo ■MMjr ahiliinfa it miglit brin$ ruin on faniiiiri. I ihibk •rrioaa JM k alltaa woaki rnaan wrr** }oar Kirrilenrirt lo inlerfert wilh llMrantal; iharefor** I hold iliat Iwtnljr jreara* parcbaaa ia ib« ovif propor oaiiaiate If jnor Eirrllonein* ara goia^ lo adopt tk, jetaal v^laa. joa ruanot do ao wiiboai apanding «ii moatna ia vkHhc aacb lownahip; and it might ba worib wbilo for lb* paapla of ihia laland to havo n (Vaab commioakNi appoiatad ia or^ar tbat it might apcad ifma in viaiiing tha aat«ral lowaabipo, aad ■■eatiaiaiag their ra«pecliva valaoa. Ta pat a valna on llMm, baing gaided by iha limited amoant of ovidenea yoa have at ^ireaaal received, woam be ailrrly nioaotroaa. 8u year Kt^ellimriaa have ao moana of adopiinf any other moda, aa4 aay otkar woaM ba onjaat. Aa lo iha aali;^! coneaming wiiai ItMi. that to*9 BOt eoina within Ihe larma nf vear F.iealleaciaa* Commiohiioa, aa if ia aal a qaeaiien baiween laad'ord and tea- aat Yaar Rieallaaciee may rt«|aira lo go lato tba aabjaai i» ardar to amial yoa ia mahing yoar calcaiaiioaa, bat I aaataatf Ibat it doaa aat coma wiihia ina aeepa of yoar iovaaiiptiooa. I have ibaa |oaa over the groaade which wa uarpoea oeeapyiag, aad tba avidaaca which we ahall prodaca will ba ■alisfaetarr to jaar Eieelleaciaa. That tha propriatora hava acted nprightlj aad Hbarally, appaara from iba fact of their attbmiiiiog ihair aaca la yoar deeiaioa , aa baa been abuwa by the evideoca alraadv wadaead, and will appear etill farther from ibal yet lo ba o^ mead. I abali now iniredaea aome of their igeala, wba wHf pra daaa valaabhi accoaata and atatiatica. Coaa. Ilatibartoa iatrcdaeea G. W. DvDIota, Etq.» agcat for 8b Samaal Canard , lo the Royal Commiaaiunarf. Mr. DcOLOia addraaaaa iha Coari Year Bieallaaeitf: I hftf a aoeoapaaied yoa to tba diflTarcat part* of tba falaad, wbara r^ a 198 THS LAMD CX>M]flllKlOIV. wHI aij ^Mip*«Nl In rniilil* ma 1a k« f«ll« prvpart^ f afiwlr bvliart {*«r F.irell*>iiri««; b«« I hava jmIImJ dutin • f»w irtmiflia, wMeb MrpeM to mail* Ymi Hmw •«« f(Hi« tkroagh ■ larf* pwiioa •I iIm lataad, and tK# tn^van^M of iho iMiaiMrjr Imvo %om hM bolbro jro«r F.icclleoeNia. 1'Sm ooly root grirvaoco, of wkidi thoy appoar ta rumplaiN, i« payiaff imiI; k«4 I moal aoy I •■ it • loM to aoo kmt thai cao bo oalM a grtotaaro. 1 liov eoOH ploHi aboti iho roola l»«iag too higli, }ot ik^jr gn ol liiow ow« iriMi oriti anil tab* lb » w tMir4*«M r.imm tlMMwa»l«r»« MfK« ^t: iWjr Doi porchaMi t invef oiitaot land lo prvfaraiiro to takiaf laioM f TtMt hooo hM b«oii odWo4 to iImhm fof nioro Umb olovoo yoo.'a. diaco IMt, whoc 1 bocoiiM agaot foe ('oMri, I Imvo liM applicaiinoa ma4o to int« almoai dailj, for laod. Ma«y •f Iho applicaala I rafoaod, audi loU ikotn to go and porelMOO (lovoniwoul IomI. iimco tko dbto I hawo mfMiJmi^, 1 bavo givoa ovor fuor haadrcd and fifty laaaoa. TlMao paople, woor Ksool- I— eiaa will pvrcoiva, laba l a aaao m prclofooco to l»o)iag la»d OS iIm Govaf niiioni oaiatoa. E*o« whoa Uai at t^t. H'oaoor** I Im4 Umt Of Ita app-iealiiNia tot lai«4. THoo, I oroold aali, wkv it ikia i TIm Prut Mjoa of Nova tfooiia aod Now Uraoowiok •r* Mar, aod in m, ii it mid, loada of a «aatl) aoporMt omUij €•• bo obtatood alMMM Ur iIm aakiag of thoM. Do /•« iMik tlM |M«f»U «f tliia ItUad v Mcb idioio ikot thoj do Ml iMMir wkol i« lor tJ^ir i»doaal«gt ? Ilavo aoM of iImmi boos \m iIm mkm rroviaeoo i Uo ialMMaaU of dtaaa Provioooo aovw •MM ■•4 lako load m ikto iaiaad f I loavo llMao qaoaiiaM tm ftm E i oal U aaiw to aaowtr, Iboliag aaiiifiod tbai, aa aapr^fb- diMd MM, yoa will aaaww xktm •• ikoy aloao caa bo ■»> MMHod i aad« coaaidvriag ilw advaalagoa of loo nw atioa fmmmmi is Umw dflf •, yoor EaMlloaaioo Maaii I ili«li, look wiik •••• loaifl •• MMa who akoll prvCar lakiag kaaoa, wkick Umj eaa* itftr Mm ** Aoadc a^ ilatwrf ,** io i^laroooo to goiag to p taow wktra UMf Ikiak Iko? wa a id bo (roo^ Dal wbai ka«o iJioao ■•• Mka4 J9«r Ea c ollaa o taa to da f Tkof kavo aakad jtm !• Ml Mlda Um rigkia of fritMl« imdi9iduml$, ia ardor tbat llMf UmmmHtm, aka ^i iVofa ioW ha*« b»«M at|i«ci»4 vf iIwm* W« r%m tWaw bf oar biNiJM ibal U!i4lorfliit uf ilii> ntiaoirv : aod la atMcr hoar mmak haih ihara wm ia lliai aialrvMot* I rtii aliow ibal firooi l«<53 I.* l^hn. mrl«(iiv«. tm t>. l.aiMirtf paU XllftT Ua. IM. (*n laHtfi ui. Mr* K. CooaiJ. tUriag tl«« «iiii«i pariotl, XI4&4 Sa. ItM: makini XMII l«a. 84. Com. (ta A v.— TeaanN \taj faiM no raltimirfl fmtmt * Mr. UbIIi.om. — \*f • In 1%1i*>rn >fnra Hir i>. TMiiRrd paid for ika a|i#nint of road* and ihf> baiiJins of tui l^t'f itfJM |fi« 6d.; and Mr. IV ('unarj, f.tr liiu ».tiii- «iltj-ri«, 1 r»i :U. Id , io iho aaiN* paritid. Coon (io 4».— Wh:«i rtlrni oft •4«l« wsa i»p«»i«ihI up * Mr. MkIIloi*. — I rnald kuI <*i]r Tim coat wo«ld Im ah^vat XM pwr fniltt. Krom l^t|?l di l**.M :<«r S f*unard pntil X115 lu iIm AgriraiiHral .*(o«iciy, an*! .Mr. F.. Tanard. frnii HI9 lu 1159. XIOS la r^ali. Mr. I'.. <'a>i .iJ tin n 4n%K up pii)iii( anylhiof oa aet^oaiil uf thn l.*gi«lalur ••Hp<<«ing .iii unfiir Int oil land fur rtado, wdich ha aapiiiMad wnuld ht«a pi««H i«itn law; and, if ao, be woald ham Ikwo cump«>llr>d l«i pay n liir^^ ••am in maaft- ioenea. Thn Act «>r tha {.••^Mhtura waa dMtllnwrd by tho Iriliah fi«}v«>rniiii*nt, lH>raaiia ii U4« unja«i. On liva or aii oe* caaioaa h«> had iiitportMl, at hi« own etprntu*, animala to improvo ibo brerd f''i«loclt iu ihia Tninny; and hu did no u! tha ruqaeat of toaanta liifMiiaalvaa. Iluth the Canard'x. loo, almi ronlribaiad Urgoly lawardfl iha aapport of church«*a of all drn niab, thai fiva all Um timber. ToAurd^ tha rrrrliiin of a Cftarrb ut Morray ll4rtMir, t*tr H. rnnird giva XltiU in eaib; in fact, ho aliiio«t built it. .\l*«i, tn Nn>iifirr t'harch alCaa«;ainpeo, ha favo ■*>«rf niy or <*igliiy an*** of Imid. ' Innd for ihi* itilea of Iho wU VU*\mAm nt Tifulhh Atii ( ?a«cu{n;irr , anJ tho ttmbrr ta baiid Ibotn, ba«idMi many uih^r thing* uHich wrn do nut niantion, aach aa liinbrf for thfoo uf tha l.i.-^'**! briil|^« nn tho l«land. Wliai land>hold»r4 in tha adjninuij l*rii«iiirral * Parthaf, )oar Ki«*elUnriea ahoald t-ika into r<*n«i• paaaa la iKa Calaaj. IbU 8 faad ta aa e aaraga iaiaiigraiiaa. Ca«u (JaAff. — Kaapaeiiaf Om ««la«i af laaJ. ia ilMca aiaeli 4iiaraaaa bctaraoa iha dillaraai Towadiip*. aa4 balwaaa 4(fllbr- aalBarta af iba aana Tawathi^ .' Mr UsBLoia.— 'rbara ii, aa^oabiadly. Caoi. GaAT. — Aa far •• yaar kaowUdga atlaada fiva ia- Mr. UiDLOia.— In ilia aitrama aatt aad tif iha l>4 for laro akilliag* aa acta, and wbara tba laaaau ara la y ia arraaff of rvni * Mr DaOkoia. -> la eaiaa wliara • aiin eaaaol pay bi« raal ragaiarly, a praprialar miilM ba prepafed Ui aita ap tba back raa>t bat I Ibiak il aruaki ba anfair to eompal nin to dwpoaa af bia prapcriy at a iawar rata. In ganarai, I think laadiortia hata •al baaa hard ua tbair laaaata Com. Ura v. — I aadarataad voa ta aay yoa wroald lay that 4awa aa tba vaiaa nf tha fraebold. witnra tha rani caoiaa aa ragaUrU; bat what woald yoa say if tt akoald ba ia eaaaa ia wbieb tha rant mraa only aawia.tl f Mr UaBLoia — Y«>ar Ktcalicaeiaa maat rameiuliar that pea* KHiaiuia pMicuAMni liivMi &lM«ita nt t»m»iti«itaiiwu ui iiia laaoa oaiag raatad at tha raiaa maniionnd. Su i. Caaard, fur ai> aaipTa, parebaaad Uod at Marray llarbur from Mr. Cambridge oalcalatiag al tba tuna that tha tjnda wara rooted at one ahilliag aad ail paaca aa aera. I la porehiaad tha iiroparty, baaiag kit «MiS(i«iaiiu«a apua iii«* i«l« at wiih-ii li laaiwi par •«:(«. Com. (SaAT. — Aa a gfnaral ruh, wkaibar would yoa taka Iba aaoiinal or aetaal rant aa tba valaa I Mr Dallkoia. — \Vh**ra t^a«a201 • . C»«i. (tRAT. — Ht lUviUntl in«ntitMietl ilnt ths i4ad«, Tur mUiek h« wtt ag«al, wer* al Hral IfMcU ai ua« sliilling aa«l eu ■Me«, aa«l lb* lenaau having filUo la «rroir«, tb« pr(i|iri«Uir Mfar* ibaiM Um back raau, anJ gsv« ih'.iu nanv luate* at m— paNca an aera. In ihi« ca«a yna ii«t« ili« lAndlortl laok tba aclaal nat iba Nomioal prudactivanes*. at tb4 valao; aa«l ainca tb« ebaa«a wa« maili Ilia rentt have bat^n paiil ap. Nomt what «M«M ba tba valaa uf that pro|i«rt]r ? Mr DbOloic. — It waal4 ba iwanij jaar«* purchaaa at oi«« »m »m »r*m Com. C««Ar. -> Do«« niM tba valaa dapfiA4 apofi tba invaat iC tibich a man makaa .' , >>. Mr UsIlLoia.— Vr«. Co«a. llALisunToN. — Uu yua think, .Mr Dallloi*, ibaa« •rraara w«*ra raa«««| bjr tbti |M»vi>rty of ibn linj, or that thajr araaa from otliar €««•••? I think raihar (torn ih« povnrty of tba paopla who cotilml on ibn \*nd*. Will ihti cau^ea. which gavo riaa la arraara.eontinao, in jrour opinion * I think not. I iTimk poraoaa with luoro capital will ronia in ami Molila on liia tanda. Waro tba propriittora to u«a iho ainuMi uxor, do you think tb«y ooald collect their rcnia ? I do ; that i«, ilia annual ri*nl. l>o worn think tbaaa arr«r:ir8 wara rau«*d by political agilaii-in f I baliof a that baa ba«'n at the foundation uf all tlia dilficultiai which have l^^as nipofiaiicad. Com. llowK^^ — ^appoaa thare i« «o chanco of thia igitatioa etaaing, what iu«n f Mr UkDlom. — I baSiavfi yoar C&eaManciaa htvo eomo !• •ako an aqaiiabia arranf«'iunnt. Com. llowB. — MuppoMi wu do not auocaad * Mr DBBkuia — I aappoiM ibn agitation will eontiaun. Coon. llALinunroN. — If tba l.agi«latara had not throws ahataclaa in tbo way of prnpriatorc r4>ill do ool coniawl Uial Iho Act w (Tho Aot waa iho« rood, oM aavoral roiaorko woro M it hf Iho Commiaaioooro aad Cooaaol.] Cmmi* f ALMS b.— Aro JFOB Bwaro of aay loBOoholdt ohi«|iBt laAiUlolf r Ck Db^mib. — NbC iBlolf . Obo or two ioBaohoU ibI i. BOMB U«B Bfo, BB Lbi M, for ItM Br iMO. HBBia.—CBa yoB bum whBt llj ia rBBiB f II plfBB BTB Bi ' 14 ^ss^s 202 THR LAND COMMIMION. Mr nKn<.ni«. — I ihiflk ilMHil froM XS.uOQ tv /lO.OOO. Omlf fa.iUM 4r« retnii'H •? Mir M. L'uaard. C«wa. THOMaoN.— I would lik« lo kaow whotker, tccordiag to ;voar r.ierllwnriM* cugieMioa, abaUacU of Utlra kava b««u kaadcd ia by laadlmd*. C*oan llALiavaroN.— It woald uko wvanil wraki la prt« para ihrm. Com. KiTCNiB. — \V«) did aol mnnn f>«p«a#ive ducatneala, wmr.h ■• !*«•« unoar KacrllraciM ri|kl la irfcrrnrH lu tin* |Niriicaiar, aii( ill' c»<«dnr«« of oar rluiiia. Com llowB. — > Undar any circem»lanr« ikal ahatrart woald ba vrry valytbln. r*ap|MM», e g., that w« dr«i(i«» tt|»oB bayiag ap th«t rUiiiK of ih« propnelora. if, |'f ima yarir, we aaw ika liiUa wrra fiMid, ilin |N>opl« wnald iiiiiii*^li<*i<*ly arf|uii*«r«, oib« •fwiaa, (hfy wohIU not; au und«*r aii) « ir« weii«(anr« it woald ba ««.rir iin|MHtaiii lu lute atMlracia <>f liif iiiUm. f van "aimkb. - Ynur r.iQ«*ll'ia paid Jowa a «iMiMcii(Hi fn«|)M b« ■Mda. Do /oa ihink ib« graaiar portMMi :>( X IS.«h»0 ur X14,- 000 of arrcar* coald be roileel««l, aiMl «lw> the accraing rani t 1 ihink ao. Yoa aaid a niarcliaat of Kmt'ii Vo. i»aue3 (oriy aanimnaMa ainCA U«i Nuvamb^r llnw many hav« yn« saav ainea that Utnm i Thia «|Miag I Mnurd t*(>ni) (ivrilHirfaa war* raaia, np»m which I roalil hava eullacie«l the whulat t*ul I oalj tooh a amali anioani. Com. flows. vWhal roat all«tHl« onn of ihrv^ W;iniinla f Mr DbIIloi*.— 'I'hat Uf|H*nJ« «|Hiii ciicyiu«uuc«*a. la ordU ■arv eaara almal CI fta. Com. llowB- — l>oa« ii cuai m«>r« or leaa th4ii a |»rt>craa ia iha Ssall Ocbi roan * Mr llaRLoia — Mor«, I think. Coaa. IIbm«i.kt. — HhI )<>« arii!^ with ihoaa tt|»«*a whom TrtB ditiraini^. Mr lUHkoia Yea. Cuaa. llK.<«ai.BV — 1><» yoa know hnw (hn merchant aattlod hi« caaea f Mr f>BllLoia. — No. Coan. llBN«LBr. — Y apply iiig to y«>a fur farina ap to tha praaant I'tmf, .in«f oome of ihitae yua atlviaed In 40 anU gel Rov« eram*Mit li«n<(. Ni*««, wa« thvl becauae yua did uol wiali to aal* ite Tunard** f-'.^'i* » Mr llallLdi* — No; but biicauae th<*y ware not worth having. (I^ttgbtrr ) Poen. Tmom""^— Y«»e bi»«»»» PM»»«tA i.^^^* them; therefore vou woMid hand ovt^r to thit re with hia propefty, ta bo had not aigttOtl the pe|H*r mtf^inn u* il-eir ap|ioinCtnent. G. \V. llBllLoia. F.<:|.. preaentod a writtea alatamaat uf hia opiaiAO revpectiitg the valao uf laada, whicU waa read, aad ia aa followf*. — 204 THE LAKD rOMlflRmOlf. }ar Ibis Por r«ar nrmwcoaeepiwn ai mj rtply to ih« qacalioM aaktl «• by )oar Eacrileaciv* on Hatarday latt, iba 224 iaataal, ia regard to Iha valaa of landa ia ihia ItlanU,— a maiiar rcqakiMj • earcfai reply, and, Imi I ahoald nUleadyoar Eieell«aciw,1 bag to maka iha followiog atalaoical:— lat. I bava to ttata difiiactly ibal ia mv viaw tbo valaa of Uada held ander leaM on lli« property of sir Samatl Caaard* aa well aa on iImI of Mr Fdward Cnoard, la twaaly yeara* par« cbaao, or in otber word*, twrniy yraily renla. iti. i uciie«e every acra ui wiiu lanaa in I'rinca Mwaid la- laad ormcdiam qaalily to ba wortli, for farniiog parpoaaa, fhoai ISa. to S5a. currency per acre—ravh down — accurdiog to aita- Sd. ]n reply to the qaeation of Ilia Ricelleacy, Iff. Carav, aa ** to what price I wuald takn per acre for the wbolo of tha Townitiip land* belonging lu Mir Samuel Canard (warn ibay ■liaa) caab down, and basinf my reply aiinply on the aaaaai aaioant of rent at preaent received,** I anaweied, five ahillifigt atorling, — naaoing, of coarse, nriii«h Sterling, — per acre. Bj Ihia aoawer, I maat ei plain that I dul not niran to aay thai thia • nfrinwr re/ur of ihu land* wan iluit »uin, bat that, undar iha •yalein which liaa fur aoiiie ^eara prevaiiid, by which the rigbta of properly ' ive been •eri«*ufl\ interfered with and infringed •poa by !■ >iive rnactmonu, rendering the culleriion of rania fai many r^ae* rftmuflt nagaiory, I '.vould, if I owned iha laada linking iIm average of rent* received) be willing to gel rid of lliem on aacli terma. If the famo legal facilitiea were given to Ijiadlorda aa to other pervona for >lia recovery of dehta due to iheai, and ihe niinda of Ibe lanania not lodaenctd by political agitatora againal the faU Silment of their agreementa, l!)e land would quickly aaaama tha nedinin |irico— really their value — of not loaa than 22a 2d of ihia carreocy per acre, whereaoever thev aro fit fur caltivatioa. [■TATSMBNT.] the yeer 1663 to iSftt iaelaaivo— Sir Samuel Cnnard paid Taiea, JtllST 14 It Mr Edward Cua«rd da Uft4 8 l« la laal IS yeara Sir Sameol Canard baa opeaed loads and made bridge*, costing etclasiva af i^arveya, Mr Edward (.'anard baa opened roada and made bridgea coating eielasive of Murteya X'272 S Caah faid uaaeaaoaent for Roada, IttO XSCU IS s X950 IS S 461 S 4 XI40S 1 10 Tawerda the Agricultural Hoeieiy Sir Hamuei Canard paid in caah from 1148 to 1864, SIS t Mr Edward Canaid from 1849 to 186S peki ia caab 101 • t X917 TIIK LAND COMMISSION. 206 Tuwjr.U rh«rche<« mid Panoaage* »eTi>ral hiiMlrrd ter«t of •icvilfat l.iinl hive l»<*« n nivon in »ll |)ar(» ui tli«i iaUnil by Sir Sanmil ami ^Ir I! tA.irl ruiurd, hU<> ufus'-y nitd utbttr sybucrip- IMS* t<» lit** I'ir'iotit til r iii«>«t of (lie land* aotU W(*r« is i^ «ikli*rB*"«« ■is'r. CiHii. (in t«. -Ii>.« is is Mr Mi'illiM, thai it bis b^cn ataiad (• «« ilial liiid >>n tli>- riand h «iiity worib 3^. nn arri*. uiid hsra W9 ht\«* I «ti* X^riruliuial |iur|ir^ nrlual (»nanla on (li« propnrty. Coun llALint nrti**. — Are ibesn tli« unly mitua thnt loak plac* within ihn lini«* fiii-iilioned f Mr li«ll. — I tirr«i Mr«*rr (Mticra alan. Co«n 11 tLiai'R roM.--At wbit pi ico du^ia ^ir Samuel Can- ard a«Marray Harbor— it baa baaa told far XI lOa Com. ilowB. — How riiach hava y.M aold at Sa f Mr |)i*ll.— Mona, of riHirta. CtHit o«r.« IV ithoat parchating ihe whola 70 •eiaa f Mr Pen— llecoald. Coan llALiauaroit. — TlKtn he parrha«f»d ihe whole for JCtSO, thoagli 6 acrev woald have beea •atlicieol fur buaiaooa pvrpKMMa * Mr DeB — Vee. Coin liiTcNiB. — And what aboat the Wiacheater eatato i Waa it auitl to lb«i tiavernnient i Mr DuU. — The ownera u( the eetato were aniioao t.o tani it Mto money, and thu (iovernuiont wiclied to parchaae it, ao tboy oold it to tiiciii. Com. R ITCH IK. --I\>!r bow mock f Mr DeB — X2MO0 licrlirH*. Com KiTCNiB. — How iiM<»v aefea I Mr DeB.— 1.1.000. Com. Howe — Doea nut that parelia^ go to ahow at what Um prieo of land ahoald^be tiied, bntter than itsjSivtdual caaea f Mr DeB.— 1 cannot aay that it doea. Com. Howe. — I p«raame the piecea of good land are ioUl Urol and bring the liixheat pricea: and iberefura to arrive al a (right oatimate uf the valae of the land, it woaid be inoro fair lo look al the rale of tliat aald in the Government ihaa to iadivM •al aaiea. Mr DeB. — I do not think il wnald. I am of opiaioa that laada hero , generally a|ieakiag, are worth aboat 35o. an acra for fanaiag parpoa«a. [Soma fiaeaiioaa were ihaa aakad Mr DeBloia in ro^rd la WMI ho woaid bo willing to take for Cunard'a land if it wara Ilia owo, bat aa the aabataaeo of hia aaawera ic givea ia oaa af Cka foregoing docamenu. we paa« over them here.] Coan. lialibartoa.— Throaphoai the hiaod, ia tba laad lai •at oftaa paid for land which la aaprodortiva i Mr Do B. — Voa .- aad tbo propriatora have lo pay land lai Ikr laad ia maay eaaaa a long time before it boeomea prudaeiiva. Coaa. HalibartoN.— Year Cieollaaeiaa will aea thai ikat he araaaoa iha coat of tba laad. Oom. Gray.— Yea, bal tharalaa of ika praparty ia riaii^. Mr Da B.— Traa. bal lha propriolora do aot ebarga far ikal. Coaa. Halibanoa.— whiah way da joa aal, wbaa tba laaaalt iMva aa Irawaod aa ikair laad t THE ULMD COMMISSION. t07 Mr De B ->Wfl allow thtim to ;:t a wooJ-rangar oa th« property ? Mr l)u II Yea. Coun. Ilaliliurion — llaveCanar^l** tnnanta«ferb«ao raatrieltd ia regard fo ilifir riglit lo a«>ll «vu«n1 uif their fdruia ? Mr lio II -Nut ill aiiv invtance. f*nnn lintiliurton — llav« vou e\«r hoard of a tenant com* ftlaioing of the praciical wurkiiig uf thu reatriciive cl.iunea la hia aaae in rrj^ard tu wood. - ^^^ .r . Mr Pe II.- No. -■' ■ Com. (ir.iy. — l lave jou ever hoard of any eaaa of a tenant after he ha« arquiri>d :in iiiierf*<«t in liie pro|H)rijr, baing preveat- •d lo loll out by the |triipriHor ? Mr l)e II. — I h'lvo ii«:ver heard of anv caao ; beatdei» tboagh u was dcairod, it cuuld not be prevtMited. Coun. lialiburion further i|ui*«iiona Mr l)e llloia — Do yoa know if the ian.iiit« over iiiako anything (ifTiho wnoil on their laoda : Yu4, Ii«hiii4 vi'jMola aoiiietiinea cuine in iii autumn fur Srowood. .-iiid they «eli to th• mkII wood in Chariollviuwn ' jv, niul it bniigi froiii 12« lu 18* a cord. Yoa «|Mik« of the %aluo of land, du you look forwuid to ill bo* coming more valuablu .' it m brcoiniog iintro valuablu every 4ay. .'\t<> the rent* ni«>re regularly |ijid now ihun formerly f They are, l»i>e.-iu«e ihv country i« im|)ri»ving. Could you if yoa had aaed fi>rcibie meana hive collected more rent — have had it better paid op .' Y:*a, if 1 hud hud recourao to law. Have yoa •mployed auch coercion ua niorrhanta do in collecting their debia ? I do not knoar verv welt how the inerchautaact. I lava yoa lieard of any caana of hurdohip among tenant* .' Leaa in* coavcnienso i« eiperif^need by ihein thin by debtora in the other Provineei. Yoa InHieve th;tl ih" lenanta here are in a better « • • • • •- ... .^a . - - :. •• : I I .: . f» .: . . . * Italy better. Are tenantawho get m^j dilficultiea uften tarnod off tliair propertica? Vury few who are in actual poaaeaaion; |Nnkap« yuu c«>uld ii6t gi.1 more thsn 20 case* itliogeiher. Do toaaata ever lease laud for the mere puporaa of making aao of the wood f They have done eo in sdverai ioatance un Cunard'o prt^rty. C9m. Howe. — Did I anderatand Mr Do Bloea to aay that nol ■HNra thaa 2U tenaota have been tarned ofT their laoda f Mr Do II. — We will give yoa evidenca by and by. Con. liave the amali proprietora,wha hold aboat t.OOO mereo, baea aa harah with their tenaata aa the largo propriatora } Mr Do B.— 1 eaaool eaaily toll. Coaa. Ilalibartoa eootiouaa iha oi'^ieiaation— •llava all tba lOMRla paid ualy iha 1*9 witli tlio aieeptiuo of a Mr GordoA who woa iR:ida to pay fall Uriiieh Starling f Yoa, with tba ai- eoflioa'of vvaa or two othora, ihay hava nol boaa reqairod to pov Ha? yoa ovor board of thai lo wbioh Mr Coaroy al- ao8 TBI LAND COMMISSION. M«d at 8i. ElMnor*t of p«ftoa« b^ia^ conip«ll«4l Ic attora ? Y««. )0«i will find tho evi(l«^nee taken htloto iii« llou^a of Aa> ■•mbly ia tli« JoaniHl fir ISl3. Apprmlit {V ) p^gH 112. Could jou produca Mr llilP< IxMik* lo <«Iimw tlmt ilio ueriOM iMrc tansnlfl that Mr Conitiv Raid vv>( (Ik* lloa4«nrA»- Mfliblj Tor 18IS. Appnndii (O.) p«««t llo. Wini •lor<4 it coat tn «in«in nmw mmAm m iKi« I«l iftil ' l-V ..•. »' •«» »» '■^•• y" 'r.M;. Ilaa' the Innd ua that p.iri of tin; \V'»t«ru Uo.id tnwHnU tha •pcning iif vkliich tlia .\l«<4r4. I'un.ud ulij' cled («> iIh* •uhi at- Maaad, war bven nettled .' Not uil. Coon. Palmar.— Do yuu tako pr(Nlacn we can obtaia it. In CaaeompffC wo get it nearly all in produr?. Coao. il il liurtiiii. — Do tU-i tiMi.iiii« mi t'unArti'^ property pay tlMir rent ofT their Turina, or do •lit-y r ttioiit) wl.o work ihair land nnd -illend t» nnllnnf itUn. ilic lM»t olf? Mr !>•> it — ' liHin who .atiMol s l«ly lo Mm ir I'lirmn. Coan. II»M jiroptMC*! n f«w i|.it'«tii \Ir \i» B. — How lang bnvo )<)u Uvmn agent ? Siitco IH.*>3. You xny rrnt on Cnnard'e fimperly baa bofn morn r*>)|ulMrly pnr the l.rniklaturn bna ri*iid^r«*d tbn rolloction of rnnt nlnmM impoMible, how ii« '.bat i 'I'hM p* • pie b.tving been lad to bf>tii*vii timt tbey vvoiild be ri'li« v*h1 frofii rinl, have no! paid it : and mi we have bad lu diHtrain, whirb •irroorMc rendara Ihn proprriy of le»n VMlue. Com. Ilnwo — Mr i>n Itloie, yon ai.-iir thai p«>litiral agitation •*•*• «t.«tact*.a utt M.it».cit«iti u« atitit uiiiitu't • >•••«! uiu ^uw iiui mmj • little ago that rrnlii are bHier ptiid iiuvv ili;in iImj ever w<*ro I Mr Da II. — I'hat is owin^ to tli*3 improviMi>t>nt of the ejnnlrj nod in tpite of poliiiml ngiiation. Conn. Ilenaley. — You aiatod (hat aa a general ihii.g )on ffivn liimrty to ent tircwood und lence-pul«*a ofl* vacant bind to thonn Innnnta who have nuno i their f«wn property ; wby i« it thai oan Mr M'ljoan, on l^t 49, U.ie nt»t obiaim'd ihia pnviifgo t Mr Do II. — The priviloKe ia not given to eviry one; it io a matter of favor, and when th«re ia a gu^id reaa<»n Icr ao doing, il it withheld. (A qnoalion th«n arona aa to wheihor thore ia a raaorration of fVMNi in 8ir Samnel Cnnard'a leaaaa.] Conn. Thomaon read from the Jonrnal of I94t Appendii. Wg« I2t, an eitrael of a Inaao frnm Hon. 8. Cnnnrd to llngh Mneintoah, which abowad thai all tho tiinbnr on that tenant't laad waa rtaarvad. Mr H. J. Cnndall. — Sneli Inaoaa w«r« formnrly g ranted by Mr BmbmI Cn«nrd*a agnnt, bnt not for tiM laat 18 ynart. TBI LAHD COmilRRlON. 209 •i I! 4 4 R. C. Haytkoma Em. b«for« th« Coari.— I h(*ld tii« half of l^M 49 — 10,000 acres I bo«i|hl il along with mf broih«ra, aa4 paid fur it CIMO aieriint. I hav* aold 1000 aerta at from 10a. !• tOa. carranej par aer*. On* nf th^ aaiaa wat a lot of 400 •erca, and the other a lot of 6C0 ; one ««■# a rash tranaaetiMi, •■d the other a trado. I have.I may aay^iMt aboat tSOO aerea by paraona who have become freehnlders throegh the former pro- prietor. Thejr had perehasei and promiiwd !o pay by inataU Hi#ata: and aomo part of the inatalmenia beinf paid, I eoeld not diilarb the peraona It waa lioefht from a banking enlabliab* "• - ■ -^ ^ « -• - -^.■^.«. ... ........ ...V bank, I have heard interest anti nil, was C2K.000 sterliiif . Tb« whole of the remainder of tho lands with the eiception of MOM swamp, is let. Com. liowe. — Coald th«>se so-called freeholdsra not bo mado 10 pay tho remsioder of their inmalmenis > Mr llaythome. — I aappose they ooald, hat we have never diainrbed them. The gross rent which I obtain from my land is XS7S. 1 received la«t year from the eitatn Aiactly ClOO. Tho arrears uf re:«t en my ettatn are only about L'70. Thia abowa that I have a gnod claas of tcnante. Mr J. R. Donrko if my agtfnt, and he rfcrivm the rent in prodoce, timber, lie. When he became agent there were £300 or £400 of arreara. Com. Gray.— There are very few oomplaioanta on yoor propeftyF Mr il. — Very few I vhonld say. Coon. Ilaliburton. A* yno aro a practical fltrmtir, what m yoor opiuion of ihe fertility of the soil ? Mr ll.-'it will prodace well, bat il ia lifh:,aod reqairoi maa- ■re to make it hold oat. Com. Howe. — Woald yoa sell yoar propartv f Mr H.— I woald, bat do not care to sail a farm hara and llMra, aa it daatrova tho eompactnaaa of the eatate. da. (2tmj,~ l'.*w j*,m» ivumuim atty «Ii2iuuiiy im Miakiug ap thair roata i Mr H.— Noao at all. Oao of ny taoaota diad lataly. who •waad 4 or 6 farms. Coaa- llalibarion. — Had ba any olhar means beaidei famlagf Mr H. — Mone whatever. CiNii. Gray. — Prom yoar knowledge of tha Island, have yo« known a:./ difficalty in the way of the people becoming frca« iMldem f Mr H.— Not to any eitent aa a general rale, hat in my own ease i would not rfadily consent lo anil ter ^ in onw block than SOO acres. I :hink, however, that perhaps, most of the tenaata woald prefer remainir^ ro, to parchating their land. Coao. ilalibarton —What are yoar reasons fop so thinkingf Mr 11. — I reserved 500 acraa which I thou|ht of aattling oa myself, bat there being several applications for tha land, I lat it by tender a: Is. 6d. an acre rant, and recaivad a oooaidaraliU prumiam for it bcaidoo. 210 Till LAMD Ct>M MISS KIN. €•«. How*. — !• tber* ••ythinf ^rliealar in iIm «i«iiiiMi tf IImm 60tf acTM i Mr ll.«-lt ia oa th* CiMrg<>«ow« Roa4. Coaa. lUhbttrtoa.— VVac it obtained fur africaltaral ft" poaaaf Mr If.— It w&a, aoMy. It «•« Uatt vary e^ty to elaar, bat ■at mora trvUabla than iha catroaading laa«la. Cvoi. <«ray. — Wkai Uu }«*a ihiMk w«mi(«1 Im • fair priea lar waar laad : Mr !! I woaM ba aiti.a'^ it I araa paid X40«0 rarrency fat vaiaad it at 10a. an acra. Com. (iiay.— Thit i« io«a than at tha rata it yiaUlt yaa. Mr 11. — Yea, but lber«i arealwa}* tliaarbackft aa aoma tatt- aata will ba «ururtuiiai«i, \c. Cottfi. Ilalrliarittii.— Yua ar^: williag t maat dure, tir tha Homo ttovarouieiit vnete t« puicbiaa it witlr> oal aay farther iroabia. Com. CSray. — WiHild yoa maka any diiToreaea ia arlhag to tasaata batwaea tboaa who piy !« an acra raal, end iho«« wha pay laid.' Mr II.— Nc, I woald n<«t. a^ iho#4 «ihu |»ay la wora ftrtt aat- tlad, and had greater liarU«hip« lii •■udara Com. «ara*. — Dal MrrliMxi »iid «ua •«• aay that if tha itialal- Btaal prinripia war* ad<\it< d, )uu wuuld ir<|aira 20 year*' par- chaicf Mr II. ->l woald. Wht'o I aiaia I wuatd laka ISo aa acra Ibv my laad, I da a4M ««y ilial that ia ii« valaa. Com. ^ray. — Uai you would ba willing to uka Ifta aa aara fcr it fram iha Govarmuoni— why ia that* jlr IS.— Oa account oi iiia agnation wbicb haa takoa plana aa tlw laiaad ia rafaiaoca to taod. Vor ih^i raavua I ihiok llta laaaar iba roni paying «vM«>m in pat an and to ih«« |i>itpr Caaa Palmar.— Uo y 'U rotuidor iiitt ii v%>u i •« fur to taka tha praaaat raeaipla of ihii iir'ynwiura .14 a miisriMo wf tha rata at which tha lanaa shituld du parcht^cJ? Mr If.— Oaeidcdly ihh, hacauta the leodeoej' of lrgi*laiioa ia this Colonr haa baen to dfpreci.it« tha val dor tha cuiloctioa of rent diltt ■•ill. If ol Irgi- of land. and raa< Coaa Palmer, — In rtf^ird to th<* fl«h>ry rvaarvea, are yaa awaho that qail rant ha« l^«*n p«id for th«»mf Mr H.— I caaaot aay; I koaw that great poriioaa of tha ra- •anraa hava buaa wAthad away. At, ^^m^m "WglVir TJIR LAND CoMMlSSKiy. Sll Not Com. How*.— Vu« area raroitr. what it yoar opiiiioa of tha Iaa4 h«re^ Mr II. — Aa I ''iJ bvfora it proda«aa wall, bat ri^airva ma ■•ra. I think n i« »ti!K-e|Hibl« of aa liigh culiivaiiun aa tha Iaa4 ia KngUnd. Ii projarxa |.»«nI riM»t er:*p4, anJ alao good ef«p« ofoatfl and liarlny. B hava raiMNl 53 buahala of barley to llMacra. Coan. Ilaliliiritia.— \Vk.tt d<»a« barley briiif* Mr 11. — I ba%« «<>ld ii «t 5« nn«l ev«n at 7«. the buwhal. 1 hava ruined 3«>i| bwnhvlc of •m»(«iu«« par arra li«*l<>ra the blight «ame. and tiiice ah.iul IdU. Itit^jielU liaiii 40 tu !IU buahria aa aera. Thr a««*ia4e price uf p«it.ituiHi i« pcibapa aboat la (id, afaaia alioal 24. Cnan. I*«'mi*r.— Krum \«hal )oaknow of ilif< rnanlry, «that ia iha ivl4li«e ron«liii«Mi «•( |i*Mii4>holili Mr II — Kni*t ero|ia. I think ihn itrnrtli* of (Hh Royai .\gri- Olltiral Hociely wilt »U*»w \Um\ Ihia hbiitl can raina aa good eropa nf tarnipa aa Mit> |>Iufiv Conn. 'liNMiMun cr>'" ■ara, and pay tli< ir rfiiu? I*rucurin(( manure will suable ihem I* pay their renH. Can ibt'y g«t liin« ? There ia no lime on iIm lalaod. What doea it ruat ainco ii Im« tu lie impoitadf Frooi Sa to 4a per barrel. What would yuv put on an acraf 10 to Sft b.irrela. Y»a aay that yua only received X300 yoor eatate laat )ear — that ia not the wlnOe amnani^ No. Why did yua not g**! all.' On accwent i*( ibe unplaaaantoaaa •< MLiaf people. That la your reason for employing Mr Doarko; ••« did yue uot give Ltiu the arrcari far his trculicf Y** ^n kU !• ealloct them. Mr II.— I wiah tu make one remark. I agree with Mr Boar, ikt M t«bf for Charlotuiowa , that the Home (tpvornmeat hava t rigjbt !8 par psrt of !h* pttrehsse prie« of th« lasd, sf they kiv« allowed tbia atate of aflfaira to eiiat ao long la the Coloay. Cmh. Gray.— What it yoar raoaoa for ao tliioking? Mr H.— I have paid for aiampla a eonaidorabia aoioaat for ay otioto, aod ihe partiea who held it boforo mo paid highlv IW il{ MW if Ibia CooiHRiaaiofi dooido tliat tb« Toaaotry ahoald ool fbo foil valoo for (be load ,o« aeeoaat of tbo proooal aooottlod itaM •Tlbo load iMoro, tboo I ibiab tbo propriotoro oboold got loao- tUof AoM tbo Homo OovorooMot Tboro it oooibor oobjool vbMh 1 ibMi 00 propriotoro wo oigbt lo bo at iiborty lo bnog Mbro yo«. ud lb«i ii ibat tbo proooat ayoloa of <«llocliag roan AoiM ocotiaoo ooiil yoor owainl ia guvoe« CMk tiiobio —If ibo oooroioo root it ooc poli« yo* bifn • f fc n rigbt f oolioot it o yo« 4a bofcm . .. ■ »i-ir. 212 THE LAND OOMMI88ION. Coaii. IUIib«rtM.--l3oai« arreara b«e«ni« da« lut May; j«« do not moan to aajr they ihoald oot be collected? Com. Howe.— We did not come here to inteifero With lb* hoaiaeae or the liland If we had She power to do ao it wo«M bo dangeruaa to ezerciite it. My view it that etery teooM ooght lu pay hia aecraing rent aa thoagh we had oot boon aittiag on thi> ('oiiuniMion. John A. M' Donald, Esq , one of the heira of the Tracadio wRtain. «!«• rhWmA nnnn h« !•...•.. p-»:::cr, -.vh- .:^uJ :!.«l !•• !mw ■oC agrtiud to the CoininiMion, bat aa hf* waa one converaaal with aoiiie catiea referred to before the Court, they deaired to obtain hi« ovii^iiee. Mr M* Donald presented a written ilato- meot of what hn receivp* in rent, &c., which waa read by tbo Clark. He wae then queaiiuned by Cuan. ilalibarton — Are yom aware whethar the ilm in the neighboring Provinces i Mr McDonald — No, liio land srouiid there, with thoeieoplMa of »h* m^f«H»*. •• '•j*»» — *t:T. iu -.«^ «».«.* p«i» \n \um «M4ai«, Cooi. Gray—What would that land aeil for if set ap at aMtioo/ Mr M*D.— I cannot My. Coao. H aliburton — Ant tlie tenants on your aetata allowod !• toll limber off thoir prup«rty f Mf M*D —They are. t^iy lather gave abort leaaoa boouoo bo ibMf bt tho eoantry woald improve, and ho wiabod to diapoos of Coon. Halibortoo— How long ia it aineo year pooflo €■■• to ifooantryr Mr M*D.— Aboot 70 ^oara. Cms. Halibartoa— Did yoor gnndfathor apond HMiob ? ilr.M*9.^iroo, A iroot 4o«l. la (aol bo aaorilood bio IV'bMr piniwiM for, tad otborwiao ftvor bio w AfW, • tmamyhnm Mr M«DomM'o oatMo b«v» I. of •f MrM'DouM— nMite. loilaUwB, Md wMt 10 bay • lbr«i. 4» ClMT-i •«-■ THE LAND COMMISSIOK. 213 Campbell oa the Traeidie etiite, wlio was in arrears of rent to Mr M' Donald. I had to pay the arrears, have one way and a«- otber spent my money on ih" place, which I cannot now g«l eir \t of. and my Imsm will soon !••• out. Conn. Thoiiuioa — Yoar lease in short, and ^rill soon be oat( m there a elaane in it specirying thit you »luil be paid for yo«r iaiprovemenis i Mr R — N... Coea. Thomson.— Have yon r«*i«trictions about wood in yoar Mr R. — Ws, and «» have my n^'ijjlihor*. [The Coaa«ci for th.] Conn. Thomson. — I can easily iircnunl fur ihe iinpiii>ii«r4, wIumi Mr >l'l)<>ii;ilJ points o«l this man as a s.uiipin of n pro«pi'rtiU4 tenant, nnd you hav* heard the pitiful tale which hn hu<< titlJ. On*^ qucMtinn more, Mr Ryan, are you a fair Miiiipie of tliH tiMiantry on tiio csiiato t Mr R.— Thrrii arr^nlh<>r!« pour)>r lliuii I :ini. Mr :\I*l>onaltJ chm-i ••x.-nninod Ity r.uiii. 'i'liDiiison — Will yoa give yir Ryun n new Ii>.i4«\ whoii tlti> uao wluoli Un holds at present ripirei .' Tli.tt di-piMiih upon rny liruilifr, \%lio iii not on the Itland. \V>>«il«l ym n n<>w ii :it ilt<' !<:iiiio r;ilo of ntnt t I woald if I could oli: :iii my lir<>th>i*^ i-<>iiK>at. Iliivo you any dilK^^ally in IcUiii;; ! iiitl at 2'* i acre fui (it) yvw* i jNtMio. Ara the poor hou-«<>ii in (iti; pnrt rt .Mir «*4|iti« (iiiou<'li whii-ji tha At, Peters Road p-144 •««, tli»f rlFoM <>, -.iioii Ic !>'(.■«? 1 nrixiti.ill« poor itii-ii, ait>l htj i<) cut thoir coat ar <'ordi:ii{ to tlcMr rl'iiji ILivo >tMi rvrr id id lwritoii<«, I under> stood was ^ung :nvjy olF tlio I-!. mil ; tlia tttiipr was u mua who took a :iiili iVoin me, und «liJ not pty lito r«>iit. I advanced him money litxt'wi"*, l>ut ritulive nntin:; Iroin him, and at last he ran aw.iy, ana 1 pur uvu mmii muh a ijaiuT. Imu i««m not state before tlii^ Court ilini (hcr«: h only ono htase of land on yoar estaie in which the w«>od iii rt'«rr\«d ? I iiin not uwara of ■ay more. Von h«*:ird Mr Uyan's Ntat«'m<*nt; nnd hero is an- oth«r \fii\nm with n niinil.ir f.'j«rv«if«if^ » '|*h"r? ••»<»y b^ mnny for aaght I know. Ila^riy. tin* p«ir« '% *i«d 44il.| 7tt ern^t al U 8d an arra rmt fiir X Kttt; «ii«mIi. •r had «>ilr I). I|*lf>«ae, I baliata, ia iba only ••• froai joar pro\tmny mtIio ^ava evivlaoea beforo tha Cinirl f Mr M*ltofi«il— llti ia Iha n«iy oaa with whom I hata had aav didiealtv* Ha ia a lanani at will • mnA hnwi-m lalra* •<••• •oma li iibar which ha had no lighl to, aad bahavad badlv, I gava him nuii«!a lo f|'iit iha |)laca» aad afiarwarda aarfad him with a writ of rj«M)tmeat. Coaa Palmar -Ar« jfoa awira what wildoroaat land hat aold far f Mr M*n. — One Cairna boaghl wi'd»*rnrM land at £9 aa aara. C'Hii. (ir ly — Thit 14 not an avma^** prieo— what wna'd aa ■veia^** ha i Mr M'll -I hiv«> Wn->wn «vi'd>-rn«M lami ahaat 2A niilaa fiam Cbarloil'iiow.i i • b- ««i.«i .i( XI IT* ii> a<*r«. Com ll<>wo~\ViiNt would your dtnuly be satiafiad withfor tha prup«*riy * Mr M'{t. If ihff motley wi* ofTfttH rixht tlnwn, I think wa Witald In' "lit 2* yatra* uurch.i<«>. H« iil(i|i«, h-4i ««*vi«ral on our |iro|ii>riv li ive not paid any rAol tor ih» \n*t 1 1 or li ywira. Wiihi i Mi- I i>i y4'arlhay wart •«irv«iii n«iw at la 2d rurroncv p^r acre. Corn (ir ly— Voti rn.lunml iIm* r<*n( ! Mr H'D — YfN. fHiiiMrly il wa« al I^H'i. (*o;fi llttwti — Waa iIim r«*a«.— lie owned a large tract of land here, aikl it was Knarallv anprodartivft. Ha bargainini with soma poopla in otiand that if th«y woald piy him ao maoh. ha woaM lat tiMm hive land here. The people came and aettled, and aa ha was gf>ner.illv throa^h among them, I believe he paid than for fvbal th ly advanced, — al least I never heard any impatatioa •gainst hia cinrarter. He had other means heaides his land. riiava heard ihitt he had JClUOi) from his parishioners, aiMi I oanaol believe th.it he is in debt. Conn. Thitmann. — Yoa have a farm, do yoa find that it pars? Mr M* D.— Well I cannot sajr that it doaaj bat I have to hira, aad lajr easa is not a fair ciitarioa. ♦-t^ ^V, -1 - ■% THE LAND C(»llMIRSJoK. <2I5 Co«a. ThonitfiMi. — 1« it not a faet that rarming wliicli doaa aol pay hat a damoraliBing it'adaacjr— raiamf laeh •normoaa ernpa aa iO, 60. aad avtr ao ntauy bu«hela an acrtr^ nw'wg u pivM op- partaniiy lo otefrnU ilia ca|»Nbiliiieii of ih* cuuitir)? (I.it«)|hier.) Coa llowra — Ho )oa bdifva (hat .in inll tha w«Mid ofTibeir farma. C««a. Thomson — How waa ihia clauaa imrudut cd — by niia- uka or whaif Mr M'D.— Il waa inirodaced in prevent wood being eat off Ias4 oa which no imiiritvementa w«;rn made. CiMiM Thomaon— llo }n« not thibk that thaaa ciaa«aa ata againat tha tenantry i Mr M*D — They ara nut apinat tha hrneat teaaal. Coan Thouaon— Then a« aa honeai prnprieior, do yoa not tkiak it improper for a diahoneat proprietor lo have the power la aatar ia apun a taaaat'a farm and cat duwn his ornamaaul iiaaaf Mr M*D-ll woaia not b« right (or him to do it -that ia a elaar eaaa. Aftar i R Hoarke.Ra |..h «d read a alalamenl of tha plaeaa ba ia agaal Im , &•■ • ib«? f Junit adjuarned. TuBaoAV.Sapt. 2ft, 1860. Mr R. C. Ilayihoraa atated thai ha anderatood ooma of bia bMwala bad givaa aoiaa of band, and thoegb they had recaipia tor tba payment ol their rent, yot toay had not aniiraiy paid ttia aflMMBt, and thaa wata not in qoita ao duariabiag a coaaitiaa as ba rapreaantad them to ba yaaterday. Hoa Alai. Anderaoa befura tha Coart, aad ia aiaaaiaad bj Caaa Palmar — Yoa reaide at Oadeqaa i Yao. Yoa ara a praa* tieal land aarveynr * I am. And I believa yoa ara wall ae» qaainted with tiie \Vei>tcrn part of tha laiAnd t 1 hara aarray- ai ia avarly all the waaiara Townahipa* 1 will refer yoa to •ba North of the laland— are yoa acqaainted wiib Lot One i I ba^a aarveyed thejuuat of it. What ia tha quality of tba lead f ll ia gaaarally gond. WoakE voa alata tba average prica of laad ia yaar owa neig blmrhood — Lot M * Aboat 20a an acre for wilderaaaa land ? That ia for agrtcaltaral parpoaaa i Yao. Da yaa maaa ia bloeka or for fanev pieeaa I Aa tba laad ii aa Iba Lot ganerallv.— My father booghi 100 aeroa lor XYt Mg. lo tha laad baek irum tha aaa ? It la aol far from tha aaa. Ara firaaboldara m maab batter cirsaoiauaeaa ibaa laaaaboklara • Yaa aaa aaareelv tall tba diffaraaea of tba oaa from tba albarf Daaa tba fraaholdor aaam to improve bia place oMira thaa iba t I da aol kaaw that ba daaa. Bat tbara ara Tari- •i»S S16 TBI LAI9D OOMMIWIOII. «M •pwiew Ml thM |i»Mi; I will giva yM th* •pwiM tf Dr. ll*(ir«cor, which wa4, that rat^ifajrMS aH iMMhoMan ara •Kvav a iha b«al oW. aa liiay hava mmuc'Ming lo aliaialaia thaai •Nraya iha baai on . aa iiiajr I aappoaa panoa* ia that part o( iha coaatry aaoMliaiaa chaafa SiMk plaoM I Oh yoa. Ila«a yoa avar kaawa a pacaaa la laava a rraohoM aad t«ka a laatalioU i Fraqaaatly. Caoi (iriiy->l*nff arhai parpoM i Mr A— Per hap« lo oUaia a baitar aiiaatiaa. f#awi raiaiar coauaatw— /%i« ftrm »»■»« «i>r*itM»«U •— |»i * i«iMM tiM Gavararo«al laad* oa L.!. la ihara aay good laad aaaold i Wall, atraaga ta aay thera i« aoma vary goMl land a« Lat II, «lill aaaaM. [Ha ibaa maatioaad iha easa of aa iadividaal wha piafarrad lo taka a laaaa lo parchaaiag a fiaehold, bt aa aaa U ra^airod laaa capital, and Iha rant w«a aol oora that tha iaUr- «M af tha parchaaa loaoay woahl ba.] Cms llowa —Haw do yoa aoeaaat for ihia facl, thai laadt Mil far parhapa 20a aa aero lo iodividaala, aad thai tha Q«v* ■aaal parcliaaa it at ao low a rata t Mr A— il ia lika gaing to bay from a whalaaala marehaM— IMS a qaaatiiy iadiapoaad uf ai oaea,ii ia alwaya aold al a lower fftU Ihaa ia oihar aaaaa. Cava I' 'iiiar— la thara diaaaiiafaciioa amaag tha ta«aala ia Mf«d la aandiiioM of tha laaaaa,->ara ibay laavisf Um Maairy oa thai aceaaai i Mr A— I hava aol haard aiMh cooiplaiali I d« Ml tUak iWl ■My hava laft iha Ulaad m thai a c Maat. Cmm llalibartaa— >llava yoa kaawa paraoaa paaaawiag fraa* fcalda Mil ibam aad to away lu olhar eoaairiaa, aad aAarwardt mara aad parehaM TaaaaboMa t Mr A— Yaa. Com Hawa— Ii wm rapraaMlad la aa ihia SMraiaf dial M ii • flaaa ihiaa far a vaaoff laaa b«aagbl ap ia tha eoaatry la laica •r wi l daraaaa rar«,->lhal ralhar ihM do M,ha Imvm Um liliM blhalihaeaM* M^ A— >ll aMy aaaMliaMi oMar. Cm* Palirar eoaUaaaa.— I baliara a taad daal af laad hM fcaMaald ia tha waaiara partaf iho lalaad for aaa-paymMl af laad lai f Yaa, a gaod doal. Hm aay aa tha ahara baaa m aoMf f ra» ■Milly. Ua whioh Towaahip r Oa Lata t, aad II. Oa Lai flidaMibaglaha land ailaadu tha aharaf lidooa. lalhaflaha laad M what ia Mllad iha liahvry raaarvM ? Vaa. WhM tha O afiia a iMl mM tha glaba laada did il auka a roMrvaiiMf Nal aay. la il tha mm that tha baaka oa tha ahara ara waaling MMff la aama plaCM thay ara waatiag away vary aiaehj miMm my raaMoibraaM a high baah haa waaiad away la Um M* iMIaf Mvaral rada. Oaai Hawa Hm tha hiad aMda ap ai aay plaM .* Mr A— 'Mai aay pbM thai I aai awara af, aMopl al Um Wail Obm, wbara il haa asiMdad ahMl half a aiila. OiM H a wa -flappaM aa a praaiiaal aanra y M vaa waM di* raaiad u lay aff tha taaarvM aaw; wiib Um graal la fmr haad* Mw waaM yM proaaad i '■^- TIUB LAVD OOMMMBIOK. S17 Mr A.— I MMMl idl. Cmi ll««r«-BMM I MppoM at kigli waiw nmHi, aa^ mm- bsck 5M fMcT Cmm l*al«Mr— TImI wmU W a vMiailMl hijwiiea la iHaaa wlwlMMIaaiiMiilMrMr af llMnwwrv& wharaUia baak haabaaa waalM^ aaray. Caai llo«r«— Bafurn ika tfff yaar laataa will kava atpkad. la ilii« ii«i4«aea. tba arhaia Islaad will ba waabaa > a«af . '(l«aa|hi«r. ) .\a a araeiical maa do joa ihiak iba paapla ara gaaarallj \VU.it la iha avaraga prica af laad ia thai Caaatjr ? Mf A — Aboal 2Aaaa arra. Caaa ll*in«lay ~ l>u yoa know of anjr aoUl aa low aa 6a f Mr A.— M«H any. Caaa lli>n«l«ir->r«n voa tall arlial laad on ln«lay — Hal it liaa b««'n aold at that rata. Com iioMra — Mr Andaraun, wn do not wiah yna to giva tha K' m of particular piaea«, but of «irtljarnea« lanJ all ihrou^b iba nd ? Mr A — From lOa la SOa an nrrt Caaa tlrn«lu My that l)r MMiregnr ap'^ka ia praica aflba lraa4'liolU innmtfi Mr A — Yra, ha «»a» llm tiral I hratratand li<* want to California on accnaot •f baing ia arroara. Abual tha fiabary raaarvaa, yoa aay thay ova waaniag away t Mr A.^riiaj ara. . v;-. - -; --^r ^^ .'S«'. .rr«!r-.V ■r^.i- m LAtfD oflniiianov. , •r 4* IM fMfIt MW fty VMl Ibr Mr A.— WlMf« Ikara at* M ttUkn iaiW |ivM ia that ^ifaaliaa aa feaa baaa I raawr— >la iIm aaaatry g aaar a llt t4t mikk wkai h l» ika Mr A.— Vaa, varf faM. Mas. BsATN Hatilah*. M.P.f ., baCwa iIm CaarL— Tear fe»Mll«HwiMHi: M iha Maat (W 8ir Oralnai ^aat i oniary, wka iMa afraaJ U tha ayp ri a t i— i af tiiia kaa. CBiaiuii»a, aa< will ka kaaai by Hm awartf. I aaai M ar it mj 4aty ta lay bafcra jra* Ml V tiM tillaa la lua aaialaa. TIm Towaahipa pullf bf r -B ara t4. tl aa4 St .lagallMr wHli BaaglHaa WaM mti Baatfev Jtilaai. [Ha thaa raa4 abairaet af tklaa.l Aa bytiM WMinli iba — tt l aiaat af Lirta t4 aa4 M, tbat q aiiaf waa ••€ at ra«i bf a aariaa af raaalatiaaa Haaaa af AaMmblv ia CMaaiitiaa af tba wbak tfM Calaay. Jaly ft. I7t7. It »aa ibaa aa«plaiaa4 tbal ia aaaaa(|a«aea of tba aoa-faliilaiffat of tba ■aadliiiaaa af Uw mata, tba i«|icaveaMiit of tba Colaajr woo rour^ad; bat aaaaf Oia raaolaiiooi aaMMif otbor tbiogo ouiaa tbat Lata if, I7« It, It, II. S4. «•» M. U. U, U. M. 17. M, W. 40, 41, 4M, 47, 4t. 40, A' I, M, ftff, woro aottlod aeeacdiof to tba eaadiliaaa af tba erifiMl graata. Tba aaat raaolatiaa ia ta iba eioal Ibat Ibaafb Towaabifw 7. SI, ka , wora aol ■«itla4 agroaably ta tba aaaditioaa o( tbo graata, yot aa tba owaar, Baraa NoaigaaMry, kmd booa ovor aeiivo i« eadea waring la Mttia ihoai, ha ahaaU ■at. la tba opinioa uf ibo lloato. b« 4Mlarbe4 ia ihoir paaMati 8k Graham Monigomorv oaraa ao othor laa«l ia tba Caloaj laa parte oftho Townshipa whi^h I Crat aamod. Mr ia agaat for aaoihor of iha Moni|oia«rjr famiiw. I ropraaaal It,i00 aeraa oa l^nt S4, iaeiading Ka«iicvaral faan baa l»aaa JLUMO, — Iko atraara aro liiaa liacowiag laaa aad laaa. Oa 1^ 69, I rapratcat 7000 4Ci«m, iho raaUl of arbieb ia XtOt, aad tba avaraga racoi|it« XlM. (In Lot ft I, I ropraaaal 87M aeraa, ihtt roniai of which i« IMS fta 44, aa4 tba avaraga raecipts £!69. On flh r«<|iaiM ahnn^ aaa aeraa, ft! I acroa aro leaa«l. Iho reaial of whieb ia £10, aa4 tba avaraga raeaipu CSft. Caaa. llAi.iaoHTo«.— Ovar baar bmoj yaara doaa yaar avaraga agiaail f Mr llAVii.Aiio.~8ig, A fow yonrn ago oa Lola ftt aa4 tl bat litila rtnl waa oolloetad; but aow a eoaaiderabia aaMaat ia abtaiaod, which abowa that ihaaa mu%m ara iaproviac. Tba liriacipal raaaoa for ibia ii tho higbor pria«a procara4 far agri* aaltaral pradaca f Com. (« a A V.' What ia tba eaaaa of tba advaaaa ia tba priaaa — ia il tba raaipraaiiy irraty i Mr Ha VILA «0 ^Yaa; ibat iraaty, I baliava, baa baaa fai a tba aalvatiaa af iba lalaad. MaaigaaMry baa babavai TSB LAim OOMMttBIOlf* tl9 ^ ■^ I ■wiJH M nM m a Urga •■«••!, iMMwlMra fcuwm XlOOt aai iCMM. WWr« \»m4» wn imtmimr iIm/ Imv« Mm I«I i« •>«• mma •! •I •■< N •■ aer*. TWa ara aa a«di laada aa Lai M. Aa» Caaaaa raiaraa af StM. thara ware aa Uito LaC lafarablaLaad; aa4 Uia eiaaa alaa «vara vary laifa, MM aaaalilv af wiMal baiaf f.STI; af tariav 4,Tf4{ aC aaia fT,atl; aa4 af yaialaaa •t.tM . baalMk. Mr Jimaa Hit lima, aaa af tW OaUgataa froai ikia Lai, b kia avMaaaa kafara jraar laaallaaaiaa, ilata^ tlwl if iIm poprialar Im4 ii faad tkla Im mwrnlim mm wMiing u* |My im jwiia* jMi w iia — ■ • N« auNaaMai |iva «a aaeaaraga— at la liaad ia aa abtlraet af iIm iHta; aa4 I kafa ii will ka Miiifaelarj. A laaaa wat prodt«ia4 la Caart Iha ailMr iMj, for Uia parpaaa af tlMwIag thai iha laaaaia aa Um Lai arara aol al libartjr la traatfar iImIt proparilaa wHiMal Um aaaaaal af Ika praprialar. Ii ia Iraa tWl aama ol iha laaaaa aaa« laia aaak a raMrieiiva elaaw; bal I Mj aay aaa la prava llMI k iMa baaa ailMr ilMa a 4aa4 latiar. Ir aay taaaal objaeia la H I wiU |tva kim a aaw laaaa. I'ka Maaigaaiarya hava laaaad •■ Ikair laa4a, iaaladiag ika ft«karj raaarvaa, and racaiva raal Caaa. Palmba.— Ilava ikajr |mnI all ikcir qaii raalf Mr IIavilahd.— I beliava aa. Tkay kava laaaa4 all ika fakary raaarvaa aa Ihair taiaiaa. On Lai 14, Iha ra«enra ia far a fraa fiakary la «ll ll«r MaJMiy'a lakjaeu; aad I hava coma la Ika aaaelaMoa thai wkaa tka fmr^* m tor ** a Traa fiahary/* Ika ri|kl af ika M»i i* ia iha proprialar. In ih« grael of Lai •!« I k ara i« a rmaivo ut«aiion«rsrtif !• ilMir MMrMM «• tiM MrkHt; bU p«tUf I* Unk MwlfMM iMbiu. 8mm of Umm cam* bar i witbMl mj * iiiaC. ••A ara mmv wwUi Umit kaa4rada af pa«a4a. Tkaf kivt laclafMa, aad aaay af iIm« bava MaMy vaiia4 a« iaiaraM. Ca«. Haws—la ilMra aaj momii ta ba faaa^ m ihM Mr II.'— It ia la ba faaad hy iadartry. I aaaM bavt aaU maHv iba wbola af iba Lai at Ma aa sera, if I bad Caaie Haw B.— Wall, ibaa, baw ara iba aalikn aa iba acbar llr II.— Maajr af ibaai ara la iadilTafani eweamMaaeaa. Gaai. Ga*v.— Wbat m iba eaata odhmk povarty t Mr II — Thay cama kwa m»ny of ibani vrry paar,aa4 ba4 !• ■trafaia ap. I aaa a (raal dilfiealijr fat ihain. if avaa ta-«atra« UMyhad il*a piiviirga ta parcka«a. bacaata I eaa abaw ja« ibat •aoM af ihani wteo bad tbair arraara of rrat forgivaa, ara aaw Iwa ar tbraa )«ar« ia arraara agiia. la toma t^a—, tbiaalala af maliara i« owing lo what i« r«llad w<»ak familiaa, ibal ia, Iba •bildraa baiaf jraaag, aad not abl« la ran4Wbat ii'i yoa tiiuan hy b«d land t M, ».. '•I^ad that i« naarly all «and. Ca«. llowB— Huiiia uf tba land ia MtJ la ba aaarly all •ovarad aritb iimim,— i« lba« bad i Mr II.— It i«i>r«iMC. Com lluwa.— And i* iliara mach of thai f Mr II.— I'hrra ia ruii«itlaral>la Coaa. TImhumu ciu«« a«ainioa« Mr llnvilaad.— In loakiag •var ibi« ab«iriirt uf liila, I uLMrvit ih« e»nairaiiun i« laft oal ia aaa caM uf iranafer; ili«l ilia ct ika lilla. Witb refuronee tn l.nt &9. I 109 there i« if* rtMivHlxr^iiitHi man- liaaad eitbrr, aicapl a nominal er«iion i It might bnta baaa given f>ir nuihuif li a fiii^nd withoai making any diflaraaca. Caan. llAitiavaruM. — I ohjret to Uiom qaattioaa; Ihay ara calca!at8d :•.•> 'hra-ir a •loo*?* vr. •!»• ••••- Mr IIavilamd. — I MnnMrer ilit-aa qai^atiaaa aa aiy awa raaponaihriiy, iiidH|M*ndant of tba Coan««l. Caaa. 'rbumcun pruc«nd«.~Yua ira a mambar of tha lloaaa 9i AaMoibly ? I Bin. Yua g**i aboat JLWi rant now f I gap* paaa about ih«t. Thitn ihit gon* nal of the bland, dti«laia«a dn«« aot aiwayt diaplay aamoion tmn— ! Were yoa in tha L<*ti«liitara whaa tba Raal Rail Tai Hill araa paaa«^l i I wra«. IVate yoa ia favor af tba BUI f I vmad agaiatl it, baeaa«a I eaa«idarad ii waa aa iai- aailaaa aaaaara, inaamacb aa it pra^saad la impaaa a las apaa Iba Raal Roll, aad aai apaa tba amaaat af raal raeaivad bj tba \ I Till LAMD COMMISSION 2tl Yo« tlMSfltii iIm OMaMr* w«« iiiiqaiUiM; rfM 70a, llMiit IMV* a« aiiiciidmaal lliai iIm t«i *huiikl b« •pon lii« ■■■■■t of rMl roem%9t4 i I wiia • m«nil»at til ih« OppMiiioa at Um Imm. ami at «af;ii, my policy wa« nui io awitt III* Govarn* ■Mat of ilto day. Vi»« aay ih«t if ihrua^h tlii« romniiaaioo aa •ffOftaaity wa«o uir«re4 to iho lonaniry ovar Mrh«i«n yoa aet at profriolory afoni, 10 fMirelMao ih« Too ainipla of iii«ir CaraM, It waaM ba dilBcnit, |it'rli«pt itii|M>Miblo fur nnii)' of ilMm la d« mf Yoa Nii««n«lrrNtu«i«l nio; I miiI •*» nnly wiih rnxpeat to a partiaa of ika tinianiry oa Lioiy that rtala hava to bo romiiifd 10 ab«eaiao propc ifiiir* .' Mr llAViLASfo — ftfcoorao it i«. Tho monoy |taid far iIm Staaiaoff H't$tmortmmd to carry tho Mail* ta a*iui a diaorbaek !• Um lalaad. — it ivaald bo botior if aonio oiitwrpriaing paroaa aawagat aaraolvto wnold forniah a boat* Ooaa. TMOMaoM— Did il ev«r oeeor la yoa thai tboao pra- l^rialafa who aold ihoir landa for a aomiaal aani, wero tfraia of Iks bad boiag oaehoaiod * Mr II.— NofOTi oicboat had not booa apokon of at that tiai«. Cm«. THoaaoii.— It aavar aafgoaiad ilooif to yoa, tbaai M ikaoiMof Mr H.— Na, not avaa whoa yoa apoko of il* Caaa. Halibanoa.— Ho yoa thiak tha roata oa Ika Mast* gaOMTf oaUta eaa Um eolloelod.* Mr H.— Oa Lot S4 thoy eaa; hat oa MOBa of iho olharTowB- ikkm Ihar* will ba a dilBcalty la obiaia all. Cmb. Ilalibartoa.— Yoa aay riom tha |onoral impfovooMtl af iIm oaaai f j, il m baeoniag a eampaffalivoly aaay OMllar to Bty raall Mr H.— flit. Csas. Thsaiaa. -Dli jaa «\u U*ii«> «•*> ndM lU •uwm* ««f Mt Mr H.— I ioMod oaaia Ibar or fiva agaiaat taaaala oa Lot S4t lata tiMy had aoi iho polilonooa to eall oa mo at my oflit* !• la aay aotilomoal roapociiug ihair reata, though I had baaa- faaryoora ia tha agoaey, aad h«d aotdoail liantiiy with tiioai* Haa. Mr Culiw.— I wiah to mako a roouirk reapocling tho laa- Mllry aa Lac t4. Thuogh Mr llaviland may eumiidor thorn abit tm bay Ihoir faraia, yot tno poupio Ihootaolvoo may aoC thiak aa. Mr. U.— >l kaaw tho moot of ihom, aad boliova thoa la ba aMa. Btojaaaia Daviat, Caq.— I doaira la aak Mr llavilaad a qSM* Um m rofard la qait roait. Doat ho bold tha opiaiaa thai if lk«f mmrn aiaeitd, tha wbala waaU bava la ba paid by tiM tMaalry t MrH-^lda. - Mr Daviati— r>o yaa eaaaidar tbay wara paid ap la lift. MrH.— I daaal kaaw. 222 Mr I aty Iha that tm aiill I d agaia. Mr II m ■« ptyaMa ••tafil MrD pov lk«i ' A. B. by Coai taaay Mda Ik MrH. Caaa. tflaad/ MrH. Iha Comi ptrtv; hi warkhig tAraaal ti Mwafara ipolj^ aara. TI aoetaataJ ad aaaar< ia what i af tha An Wbaah hi waad bai rafaai bttaahai a OMIIMI aoiborHy Mtralbflj ft Ityal aa ktadtafi ara a mat diliaaaaf brtailMat ■■aalt,ai abla aaiili ahiptS a Uia«hat« Ml aa iali I't^j*? .•V*-- f- S22 THE LAND COMMI88ION. f^ I raa: m Mr D.— As • MMmbar of iba l^ialatw* yo« himi kaow. I My that it M Mf opiniMi «Im IsmmU paid ih« qaii rcala ap U llul lima, •mi liial (iovermnrat uAcitU 44Mira)a4 tba ree««^ Mill I 4a aol thiak iha iietipla eaa ba compclM i» p«/ ih«« ovar agaia. Mr H.— Tha taaaait oa tha Moatgomerjr a«tala ara liable !• pay all Uiaa, aad if Ihrra b« arraara uf q«it raat daa, aa4 pajnaal of Ibaiu Uo Mirorcad. tbo paupla will b«va to pay iImoi aat of ibtir owa pocbctc Mr D.— Allaar laa lu lay thai tk«y caaaoi ba eaonpalM !• aav iImin. • • A. B. C. II01.1.411O1 Caqaira, b#fora tha Coart. by Coaa. Paloiar. Yoa rotiila la Bedaqa*; Yao. va aay iafornutioa roapactinf iho ptica of laad* t hoM a aoMll Mtoro«t oa Lot«lS. 2S. 37 aad SS. Caai. Hows —What aaantity of Uad 4o jroa hald altagai b afi Mr Ht'-I eonaui aaacilj aay. Cmb. Palm a a.— What caa voa aay, thaa, aboat ika priot aflaadf Mr H .— •!■ tha llrat plaea, I do aot aekaovrladga tha powar af tha Commia»ioaera ta iaiarfara with iho righia of privata pr»» partv; bat admit that thay may eaqaira iato and raport oa tha warkiag of tha '•■aaahold ayatam ia tha lalaad feaarally, aad aAr aaah rar itaadalioaa aa thay may thiak prop«*«. Willi rtapact ta myacif aad athar owaara of land oa Lm SH. wa ata dapaadaat apoa tha aaaaal iaaiHnaa ihaa diwivad ia a graat maa* •ara far oar aabaiataaea; and I eoa^idar it woald ba aa aei of graat iajaaliea wara wa, hw tha «iareiao of any powat , la ha oaaipalled to part with oar landa at a lava pciea ih«n ti:. irhzrw !*<« «««.mmI « S«i§« wiaia. Whaa it waa dalarmiaad to taka ap arma againat Groat Btitaia, ha waa oiTarad oaa of tho firai command* in iha Amarieaa army; hat rafaaingi h** waa aomad and impriaonad, f nd woald hava haaa ahal, had ha aot alTfCtiid hia Mcapo. AO'tr ihi«, ha ralaad a cnmMny and •m«r«d into aetira florvi<:a la -aifiMa ufiha aalhorilv of tha llriiiah Trowa. I f«iel a d'^liaary ia aniariag ■ara fkfly iaia an nectiant of ilta aervieaa uf my grandfaihar aa a layal sbbjael of iha Rriiith Crn«ia; I woald rathor plaea ia iho haada of tha Commia«ionara tha racorda uf ihaaa arrvicea.aa thay ara a matter of Colonial hi'tiKy I bnli«t«e ihe ««»• dHiaaa af tho giaat of Townahip 18 wcra falBlled. My (athar hraaghl oal a aambar of Garmaaa to tha lalaad, who aalllai •aaa te, aad thair daaaaadaata ara now amoag tha «pal raapaol- ahla aattlara aa tha Lul I may atata that tha laaaalry oa Tawa* Mp IB ara gaaarally^ varv aamfortably aattlad, and OMay af Ihaii hata aMda ooaaidarahia eaaM of nMaay, which thay lal aat aa iaiaraai. Oa tha Irviag pan of tha Lot ihara ara vary ' wT^m^m^^^ THR LAMi^ fX>lllllt»inM. 223 i Kip«rft«« ••i(ilit«, «vti«« tf whuin nra i<*ii«iit«, %9rM «« ioha I, Kjm) , iia«l Mr rH»in«« Hall; while «tth«r«, aaeh •• Mvtral •f iIm Ma.inft', «!•* ir«*rliol4«ne«Hl in tiia wooai witk ■«* nihpr mean* or iiii|tli>iiit>nl« •** «n an ai* and • hiM« aad |«A bahioi hurt at Iim daath munm XiaOO, baaiiac all hi* family eaafarUbly Mlll«d. 0\4 Mr Clark ?ama70 ysar* ago p«rehaa«4 IM aerw ot land, for which h« paid £70. Kobvrt Mair, 40 yaara ago, eatarad apoa a leaaehold farm with no inoaaa, and ia Um roaraa of aoma ya^ni waa ahia to porehaaa lh« Too aimpla ef it from tho iiraprfalor Aboot ttf vaara ««n. ■ it«mi»Mr nf *rr.rrti graota eamo Irom Iroland, and ««iil«^ on 1^1 tO.^ Whan thay arrivod hartt.tliay p ona o w fd noihing,and had th«y baoa andor iM Meoaaiif bf parehating iha foa aimpla of land bcfora thay coaM ha^o procured the ncrupmcy »f anjr,they would hava had to Im- eomf> anrvan*a and |ii;olMbly woald liavn fuaml tlicin«elvM worat etf ihtathey w«>ra in IreUiid Hat undar iha l«af«hold ajratam thay nrora «it<*blfd itt tukf firm^.and to cutiiiiittflce in iha wnoda with th« ai«* And b«M>. Tli«*)r urn now, aa trnania, fitnarally in «omfviriabl«* citr(/jit»iNiir«-t; nikI taiutfuibming wliai ilioji waro a fow yraiv «f*, ii wuuM »urpii*o )on, niitoiing tiiem on thoir w^y to charrli nn Ihft ?(Mltbitli dit, to «oh whil a *f arrtn. Coin. fliiWK. — Wbiii Tm I'ltita liatx ib < K«tilt»r« of whom yoa npoih It! iiiiprtivu ihi .r iind? Ilr II " I'Uij h<\ iii>i t*v<'n ttigrr^tt a(lviinii«c«*« aa otb«ra,aa «Uoir fariiia nf •■ I 'k lam Un* rivrr. 'i'ii<«ii> waa a raintrk inado to ;;ua tbti uilx i tt.ty r<>|.*«'< Xn'.l itud ««ipt'iiiin nf claaring land in (bi« ('nloMy; I'v^ Mhilf H K«linil tiiai ii iMiota Aunaiderahio, I atill b««li(^%'8 thtit |i tiiog on woiidlunl. ibiu tin Urgf clwar r.iiiiH wKiinot tba inaana of prticaring atiick and r«riiiiiig iriipleiiM;ii<«. A cAftain paraon, John M'Carron, anuthvr oflbo AMttlttra un tbo back pari of Lot -a» :.: . i .i.« •••• •«>• A 4 dM Nt i« lur Ilia larin. Com. llowK.— ilid yoB t.>kaii> Mir II.— No, fur I thought hia farm waa a vurv good inveat- aaal aa it waa. I hava frfiiurnily baen olfarad 2Ua an acra for laod, if I wuold chuuaa tcj aall : but I hava gonarally daclinod fich cfTsrs, bee.ta'^c I t!;i.'ik th« r«At aUm b ia ifguiariv paid mo, ii good satareit fur ibM fee itiiiipla vatua of ibt? Innd. I havo mado a ealeoiatiun of the (juantity of land auld on l^it 3A, within tho Uat 80 yeara; and tind H to bn about 40(10 acr«a,tho avarago Bico paid foi which w.-i* fiuin X60 to XlOtf par 100 aeraa. •ring tho laat 10 yetra, tha land ditipunatl of on Mio I«ol waa ragnlarly cold at 20« an acra. I alau purcbaiod inyaalf on Lot It, aomo SOO acrea. whara tharo waa no road nor "dvaalagaa, for XM tho lUO acrea. Con* PAkitna. -At what rata dooa wood aall ihcro t Mr If. — I have known £2 I0« to bo pjid fur iha privilago of ealting tJio wood on an aero. A Mr Clark on thnt Lot aold n farm conuining 65 acrea of improved free land far X300, and ♦.~- ■■ 224 TIIK LAND (XiXMIBBIOy. biMshi • ImmImM fur XSftn. [ \ bmktt of Mr CUrk kv* w. plai««d itMl iIm Uum firiN h«d a tm»nk mUmrkmd lo it). A fm- mm ■! Il« rSabU mM ib« !«••« uT 37 MfM for £!«•. Cowi. IIalibumtom — Wta« iIm |Mr«Mi who p«rckM«4 it ft praeiiieal farMci.' Mr II. — !!• was; an4 wantaj ina laad for firmisf parj^uMo. Th&n H aa obaarvaiioa or laro wbieli I woaM lika la maka. It «aa Miiiwl at 8l. Elaaaor** tiiai Um l«Ua4 it is a daplaraUa •law; ilue wkaa aoulara arrive al a aaruia slaia af mi^^f- ■M«l, llMjr pr o caaj aa fatibar; aadi thai iha yoaag Mas aaa •aaviog laa commjt. i »o roatoa i«ai aooia jroaaf sMa ara laav- lm§ iIm Ulsa4 it aol oa aceoaal of iha laaMkoM •yilani ; b«l fcaaaaii, baiag broaghl ap wall, ihajr bac a waa aeca 4ow«l la Um iaiarwa af iili^— of driviag aboal ia Baa earriagao, Ac, m oiaali aa UmI ia viMiiing la tomo of iba MUlamoaU, •• Malpoqaa, Naw L aadloa, CTav«adi«b aaii B«4'<|aa, yoa woaki almaal Uiiak foa wara ia iba f^thiuaabla rircl«« of Londoa ar Paiia. lliaaa jaaag mea. Ending ibojr rannui adord ta imjov ih«ni«olvoa iba wholo tiina, b«eo]De «li*M.u*Gnania Mhuit C Mruwltl d (y auy |*ro|iriotar lo gaflaaacv, l»«eco«o thajr arc ao itMli^pondanl. I'liio w jt eviJaacad al Iha laal xloeiioa, by the miijitrity uf thorn voiing af aiaal iloa. Jaoiaa P<*p«'v »vho i« himonlfa pr«>pri«ldr ll<«n. Mr \|u«itgninorjr whila bofoTM ihu I'uort al .Si. Kleanor'a, aeemad dcairoaa la oboar kaw mach b«ilar o(t iha r*llad throagh a graal part of Naw Dranaaricfc, aad I'Mi'^ nli««rvaiiaopla, al tba tUaa of an alaclioa.induun.f ^1 both body aad aoal, baiag lilarally 4ragiad away lo voia. Thu fnarrhaais ihero appaar la eaairai IIm alactara , who ara cbi< fly (i«ii«>riR«n, ^atl aa iJiov plaaao. 8a aaa«ib waa I mffmetM by ilii* alalo of ihiaga al ibo Hmim^ ibat tiMagb I aa a Coaa«rvati«« bara, I waa a Libaral Ihara. Ta rva whal I bava «aid iti o|ipoaiiioa to l^4a ataiainaaii aada at Claanor'a ia reforanen m iba avila of iba Laaaabold ayotaa, I will raad a abort *itrart fr«»iii ** llonro oa Naw Dranawiak, Nava Hootia, aad P. £ lalaod/*— « wark of aekaowMftd Iralhraiaaaa aad naril. Tba paragraph ia al paga Uf:— **11iafa baa beaa tnaeh diacawioa aa la Iha eoaaparativ* ad- vaatngaa or dtMdvaouigaa of ih«> nyaum thai parsaad, wiib ralaroaea to iha Mtllamenl of tba o«taauy. Withaat aaiariag kl* ibia qaaaiiaa, wa may abaarva that iba aaMgrant of vary mmH aiaaaa nay that oaiila o« a fam, wilhoat niaaiag iaio Mm, aad raaarva bia liiila eapilal for aaboiataaaa aad iba in- pravaaiaat af bia laadi ia4«r« tht r«al« art rt4ttwuM9, ha ••/ THK LAVD OOMMIRSIOM. 223 gmm uf lh« l«l«mi, wiih fAgar4 lo pupwUlKMi ^nd i-i|MiMiibt« prodae*. h«« bee* nieaixr thun that of (>iihei iiT th«i m i)(Hli«tiitf •MitNieaial proviaeee, aMi ihia (entla to •h-.-.s tlMt ih<> o-J'^imim !• tkm plan i>7« net an imp»rlanl aa aiaa/ of ila •\t\' •wnni* r«i« ImmI. Aberi, a ifrett t<%il to aaj 09««lff '. etpeciallj to on* pour and newly anltieU*" Afsee. in refarene* la EduentiiM on tho I«lan4. )lr Idnrn. •! ffi^Un aajr*:— **By • eomparalive review of the trhool «taiiaiira of Nora 8eo«ia. New Brnnaerick, anil I'rince Mwaid Ivland. it wi!l he Men that the latter ii<*<>d« nne liiird tn**f^ rliiMiHit In f»-li(Mil, i* prepmtivMi to iia p«>|i( the two rormiir. I'hir fact leitda lu |*ru«e the «eprri«ini)r of tUe isUiid «)»«em, ova tlwte of tke niher !«»•* roktiiiee, and pi*rh4|>« (tn re ainnigly, the groalor tnloreai in edeentiun Uken liy the p«'"}»ie." Caaor llKi«ai.Kr. — Whii i« the rale of *rn% on l^t 2Hf Mr ll.^l'*or n few r«rin4 nn lii«* nhnre, iH» rt«tti n la C4 llahrai Merling ■• acre; bet generally il i« only l« of tlie aemo eorrenev. Coon' lltNaLBV.— Are the lenanla in the lri>h aatilentenl in •rroera f Mr II —^(4 anv. They cener«lly piy ap liiaii reaia. and I iMve hoard of nn diaronieel aii.uiin tJieiii. Coon. llAiinunrnM — Yoa have pnipurty in LoAer Ttnadai wkal do land* Im tiif Ihrrr f Mr M —la ilie (ewn«hip« they «e!l at XIOO per lOfl irrea, XlO being paid down, and the lemainder by inatalmenie Coon. llAkiauBTON —Von kiM £1 an acre (>*r your land t Mr II.— 'Yea; bat land b^ck in the eoanlry aella vo'y cheaply. Mr Jtilin CTIark n«e« m «>i«rri^f •t%trm ataiNiiieitia made hv VIr H. Tbo pcoperly left by nhl \l» %teii4ri waa not worth XiAiNI. Tba valee of aeveral farma gives by .Mr Holland, waa not to groat aa ho had aiated. Mr Holland, after having a«ked Mr TUrk the valaa of two itr ikroe farma which he named, remarked that he thuaght hia own •alcalaiitma had been preity c> arrre. [Hero rea«|a « alatein'-it of purrh.ianra ] Ho had l«t ahoot lUUO -inrfa at la atg. mn arre, to |i«*r««ina who kod bad inland fraeholda on l.oi 4t. The trirma were, iha 6ral jaar al Id. then 9d, then 9J, then la an acr*. 1« -'.1^ .i"**'- 126 THX LAUD oomiimnov. Cmk. Gbat — At • g«a«rd nilt, bow maaj aerM 4mi •' reqaircf Mr Yse ~Abo«l 109; b«l « FrMchawa will U with ML Cmh. (t«AT— At • giiii«tal r«l«i «b«l4oM lh« liglM «f « ImmImM fkfm Mil ^itf Mr Y«o.^irtk«ir« ar« 10 or M acrM of U cUar, U will mH fraai aboat £1 lu CI I0« «■ aera; ea4a ff eahold altaal Iwica at •mmIi, or (tarn XS !• X9 aa acraj bat I bata kaowo a«a af tM roa Miii lor Xowv. Cam. Hows.— Yo« bava boaa a loag lima im ihia Ialaa4: yoar bnowledf « and aiporiraca, 4o jroa ibiak iba paaala •ra ttotsa cfThcra ib^n ihay ara la iba oci|hbo Mr Ybo —I do not think Ibcjr aro. Caai. Gbav.— U« tba p«o|ila oa j—t Lot chiaga ihair taio- macbf Mr Yao — It it a vary rara thing. Com. lfowB.<-D iM» eaty. I acvor ditlraifio4 apoa any litMnia aicffpi two, ami navar apoa any bonoai man. Coaa. Tnom ••>!(. — It )oar tiaodaitl uCbuaatty ragBlala4 bf llw paymant uf rcnil* [ijiaghior.] Com. (in AT lit** many vvart Intra yo« baoB an agaall Mr Ybu — f Ngant, ana 4 a proprietor. Com. llowB.— Voab^tra boaa aataaaitraly angagad mm ably- kniMing. Mr Ybo. — Yaa. Com. llowB— loa bava I tappoaa, raablad yaer lanaaC fteqaaally to pay ibair rontt by gi%ing ibam work is )a«r ahtp* JBfd t Mr Ybo.— I kavo givaa tbom avivy oppoiianily. I baliav* Ibaro warn no dalrguiaa bafura yo« from Lot IS t« OMka aaj Com. t(BAT— It ia taid that yoar lanaota waro too aiMli •Iraid of voa to trnd dali>gatat.— 1« ibtt Iraa t (Laagblar) Com. lluWB.'— Yua bava b««n accatiomod to labo from pro- priatora par mitt to cat wood uA" tboir attataa.— did yoo ia aiKb •aaaa avar cat nfl* of lantnlt* landt I Ml Ybo— I had liberty to do to, bat weald aavar allatv mtf ■MB to cat from any airtpl Bnocrapi«d Und. Coao. llALiaunioN.— Wara yo« aiwaya ioatrtMlad Ml !• •alar apon tananu' land t Mr Ybo.->-I do not leniambar particalarly. Coan. 11 ALiBViroM.— Bat it baa bean yoar practka Bot t«d«BO Mr Ybo— Vet. Com- llowB.— Yob ara prattv wall acqaaintad tailb Urn oaontiy ; do yoa brliava ihcra it ibo povarly among iha aatllarc which ti*nia of ihrm bava drtcnbed brfora tbit CoatI f Mr Ybo.— 'i'ho d««iiiati«in it ant to great aa baa baoa 4o- •cribad, bat toma of thrin ara pior aawagb. Com. Hows.- WUl ia ibo raaaon of thai t s^ ■■ THE LAKD OOMMISStON. 227 I I i t Mr Yko. flo w of iliefn mighi d* bt>iier. bal fiiiig apM wmi fariw, wiik Urge riniilir* nf your.^ children. lh«y find it diiiedl MMgh lo |«i o«, and for com* jreara ara aoabia to paf laal. Caoi llowB.— Woald jroaracll j«tm hml * Hi Yb«.— Tbai dapaada apoa wrIioilMr I could aall iha wImU Coaa. Moor B.— What woold yo* Uliland eoa* parauvalr worllilaaa. Cook llowB. — Will yo« tail •« liy it i« wrorihlaaa P Mr yBO.->lt i«. barroB— bainf ckiady comiMMd uf wbilB MBd. Com. Ili'WB.— Ilaa ii boo« thoroogly loatad I Mr Vbo.— Yoa ; it ia worlb ooUiing. CoBi. llowB.— la tboco aoy qaaetily of that kiod oTIaod mi IbBloloBdr Mr Ybc— MaBf ibooMiida of arrea. Tha Caaarda bol4 bBadroda aad tkoBaaBda of acroa that aro not worth a farthiag ia aor«. Com llowB.— Ilaa aoy attempt rtor ba<*n mado lo iaiprovB that kind of aoil by wiaing cUy with it. Mr Ybo.->I aaw iha aito(n,i: msdo onei*. bat barloy aowa apoa il alUrwarda only grow about two inctie« long. Cofli. IIowb. -What difTi'tanca i« thpro ia tha faeilitioB a faiinor oa tho Main land and on« in ihi« Idand p«^ with '*<>P«ci (• acodiog hi* produce to maiket t Mr Ybo.— Thora ia no diiRmliy h««ro in gftiini prttdaea !• iMrkal; aa p«rt of tho Island i« iliaiant from a ahipiiing placa. Caai. llowB.—Why dooa the fi«hing tmdo nut HuuiMh liAro f aaad BMay i«h— thoeo about TignUh for ei had aiaeh t Mr Ybo .—Not a great deal I think. I geneially ahip to Eaf- laad, bocauao I conaider there are belter pricea at hoiaa. Cam. llowB.— What do yoa ahip to Unglaad f Mr Yso.-^Pork. oata, potator«, die. Caai. llawB.— Yoa owa aeveral ahipa t Mr Yaa.— I aad ay uoa keep abuai tweaty akipe iradiag ia parte. llowB.— Yoa will thaa giva amploymaat loqailaB BBBibor of yoanc aiea f Mr Yro.— >Yee; wo have aeveral handreda in oar employ.— SMpbailding, however , Iwa not puid vrry well of laio. Cfoai llowB.— I ma«t aay thai I have a aoinewhal diflartal af yaa aaw, aiaca I hrva heaid of yoar oatarpriaa. prai •ft •U Dayt to pa oflh< 228 TUB LAND COMMiniON. Coan. PALMtR pals a fr««periiy i Leit«a not t Ye*. What did it coat voa f 18a 101 an acre. Do von tliinU the Inanehold avataoi ralarda the country ? I advine iht pn»{>le to b4N:uiiiH fraeholdera, and yoaeg maa genetally detire lo bfcnnie tarh ; hat ona yoang man who honjht ilin rue ■impin of ■ firm frotii me, came tti ma aAar a time, and wUhnl tu ki><>w wheihar I woald give hioi back Iha amoant in go nJ*. which he hid paid mi« fur tna land, and lot him have it on luate. Yna were prevent. in the Coart at St. Elaanora whan Mr Conroy atated that when ha firat aatliad ia Tigaiah no proprietura ware raeognitad on Lota 1 aad S,— caa 7*a aay whether the clainti of a proprietor warn aekoowladgad •• Lot 1 befora tha year ISSS t Aboat 88 yeara ago raat waa paiil, I think, by aaitlera on Lot 1, to old Mr Palmer. 8om« grittaneae warn brought againat yoa at Gaorgatowa by Hoa. ^r Wightmaa and lion Mr Thornton reapaeiing airaemeola vaa by yoa to the eflfect tlial yoa do not bind yoarafelf to graal a iaaaa at prasent, aa yoa have not iha power, bat aa aooo aa ym gat power you will grant a long laa«o ;— wbat aiplaoattoa of tha eaaa ean yoa give f I aant down aboat 100 agraemanta ta Tbraa River* for iinmigranta from tha old coaatry, aa I thought. I did BOt bind mytalf tu give leaaea, unleaa I obtained the power la do aa Bat I had nn idea that cither Mr Wightmaa or Mr Tboratoa wanted one of tbain. Dy taking than, nowavar, thay hata Bol loat anything. Caai. Ilowa. — Yua hava knocked aboat the lalaod a good had fraa laad f < * Mr Yao — I da not think it woald make mach diflbreaaa, baeaaaa if a peraon tinlda land fiir 999 yeara, there ia aothiag to pravfat him Irum iiiipru%ing his circumstances. Cv*n> lluwB. — A« a j|aiimai raiw, ate Iim p«wpi«i wuw dw AAt pav their rente better oinhan tiiose who do ? Mr Yao. — Generallv those who pay well are well off, tad Ihoae who pay nothing hive nothing. CouN. llALiaunTOif. — As a geneial rale are indaatrtotM peraiHis nble to p:iy their rent t Mr Yao.— They have in geoaial no difficulty to do so . Cuan. llaNaLBT croas^exaiuinea. — Aboat thaae agreemaala, •^kl yoa promiae to give leanea when yoa obtained the power i I did . Did yoa ever obtain tha power i Never. Did voa afar receive rent from the lenanta oa tha Sullivan aetata oa LoC ft t Not mach; — Last year I received only soma £1 or £8. Do yoa really think that tha paopla oa that Tjwnahip era abia to pay iheir rente i They oaght to ba. What ia yoar opiniaa oTtba valaa of land on Lot 9, ona of Sallivaa'a other Towoabipaf ! 1 I wjBsn^fft THK LAND COMIIIBSION. 229 froM I5« to 18a to acre. On Lot IS, vo« aay yea would atU iaad for SO* aa acre i Yea. There are '^real faeilitiea for ahip- kaihiing on that Lot f Yea. Would liiHse add to the value of iIm land i Cootiderahle. Do yoa think the land on Lot • worth aa much aa that oa Lot IS, conaidering the faciliiieo for ahipbeiidififl oo the latter f I made it a little I«m ; I aaid Ifla u aero. Any fiahiag reaervea on yoor Townahip * There era. Da voa ieaaa them f 1 do. Have you ever had anytliinc to d« wiia ij«iiauB isiaiMi i t rviii • pout 1026 ot IttT. How did they do it * by writ ur othcrwiaa f They paehe^ off my canoe. Iladyoatoawim for it T fio. (Lnughter) Coea THOMaoN eron-eiaminea. — Yoa aay yon give X4000 earrancy Tor aome 16.000 ecrea uf Lot 13: th.it i* nhtiut 5a an acra« What ia your rent for that land i Nut qailn X200. How much rent did yon remit to Sir (Jnurge Seyiiiuur Tor tlia aama land whun yoa were hia agont f About L'60. Did yo« •and thia much home * i did. Th«!n you iiiunt hnvj received OMKa.' I received aome XlSOnr 190 friMii the tonania, out of which I had to pay the laxea and the expunteii of mniiiiKing iha property, which were wry heavy. Do )uu iiifnt. (hat you peid the greaitT part of the ditri^renro heiween XCO nnd CIHUfoff taiea I You hive not pouted yourfvlf up on iIih hud t.ii liufora yoa came here f No ; I did not think it would roiiMi up. Caa yoa tell me the u«e of coming here bflfuru lh«*ite CoiiiiiiUiiiunura to give evidence without having proper inAtrniation i I hava ahown all* nereanary inroniintion. Winnur > Very had, aa (ho tiiiiefl hava tarnod out. Would you aoll tho eatate on the aime teruia aa yon bought it from him ? I would. Du )0u liotd )our:4clf ready to take an olHtr ul ihn aame ninoant aa yoa paid (or it i Yeat if 1 aai oflered the money. A atatemeot waa read by the Clerk of the Court, which waa hiadad ia by lianry J. Cundall, Kaq., aetting forth that, aa tha Apaal af John Winalue, Eaq., who i.fnaalvt>« in iheir poaaeaaiuoa. That ihe ayatem of iifpi>ai«4 iif tniil aii«a by Mr \Vin«loo waa mora to tho advantago of the tenaoi itiuii that ataaHy adoptnd. That hia propoity o« Lola ti no amoeotf jrel from the vnliie of the farma, no oneasinera waa felt ao !• their odiinaie aer.uriiy. That aince the year 18411, the averago Ciee itf ajilee uf laoda per acre oa Lot 24 waa aboat Slai and •• at M, 41a. llanaY J. CufTDALL, Raq., before the Coari. Caen. llAi.iBuaToiv. — Yna ha vn been connected for a con* aideMble lime with l.imi nif.iira iu tbia laland: do yon fiad aaj diifi'^uliy ill leitfiiiig Uud/ Mr C— Not any. Com. Ilowc. — How long have yoa been coaoected with Ian4 affiira ! Air r. — 1 ti.ive bffen 12 yeara in Mexira ('anarj*a ofTice, and aoaily 8 their unrvfynr; and 1 have beun agent for Mr Wino- Itie up .* arila of 3 ) p if a. Cuun. IIalimukton. — What do yoa think of tho Ieaaehold a)aiiiiii.' Air C — I ihiiik th<* leninta wnoM (irrfMr bivirg lard at la an acre leiit, in b«>c|iportani(y tu |iu(cha«a their fuiin^ at ft« an acre, eoald not Com. Howe. — Yuu iiiott hivo heard within the U«t 12 data that the lonaiiti* h iv« rotnpi iinl'*, Mnd that liiry wtiuid prelor bt}C-.iiiiin< frtehuUtra tti r«iuiiiuiii;{ in their piaaent poaiiion. Mr (/.— I do nut w.flhulj«n, and yet dti not purchaae the feo aimpio of thoir farill^? Mr C — ^Va, a number. Com Ritchie. — Have they the opportanity lo parelMM Ihoir land at a reaaonuble rale? Mr C— Yea; on Sir 8amaMl Canard*a oatato tho tanania ean ilwayo obtain the fee aimple of their farma at 20 yeara* parchaon. Com. llowK.— What wagea dooo a laborer get horn b| hirhif otil THB LAKD COMMISSION. 231 I I \P\ «' • ;■ ■■ Mr C— -FrAm 4« to S« a A»j ni job «r9f!c, or lar.h •mploym**! M thay mifhi g«t now and itgnin. Com. HowB — WuuliJ n«»t a man thnn mi«k« mnreby working ■I neh eniplnytnant aa lhi4, than by taking a farm? [Kt>|ttir|«r kaa ao Moia of any anawMf.] Happine a indii lo g<» on a wildar- MM faria and liva comrortably. buw l«ing would il ba b<*rora Im «a«W parehaaa tha land ai 204 an nrr«* Mr n.— That wnald depend u|»tMi rirrutiHiancM .ind tba maa binaalf. Homa wnald do it in UaT iIio tiuio tiiui oihara wuald. Parhapa I may nay Irum 'Ht i.tt: Com. lIowB.— What would hn iiropcrly ibrn bai.<«lanrf> to tba m%w aatiler. instead of an fnruinlir.niri*? Mr C — Hoya, when thuy gr.iw up t-* b** »»f uao, p»«n^rilly liVik oat for th«uiaelvca. ( ba* b^rn a grf>at d«*al aaid bafora thia (*uurt in rp^ irj to rcotri'Mi mn io I«>.i*f4 r'tp'riing tha aatting (if timber: I-* tliia a rf^l <»r iiui:*iniry |{tii>v:inrf? Mr C — In regird lo tan'mta on !^lr lldw.iid ('uoard** oatata, it ia imaginary. Coan. li ALiBUR ruiv.— >Do )ou know of any tHuantt haviog aomplained? Mr C — The only rompl'iint of whirli I li.iv«* h«ird, wni thai mtationed by onu of tli>« dKl«;{tt<'<< lo llii' f'uurt Cuaa. II ALi BURTON. — Vou Imvh u»-\vr known an in«tanca af a tenant beiu^ prevonted from ruiiing iiUilMirtilihi.t own firm? Mr C— Never. thia t*uart about property changii g h.ind*: What la your opinion is thia matter? Mr C— I think it ia an indirntion of prosperity. b'H*nQ<«n whes a partun find* h? W-»« an ovfrplu4 of money, l.ie ia inclined to apafialate, and very often itpeciilat*** in lind. Coan. IIalihur TON — IImv«? )o« n i^la-x hero rill*»d pioneara, ai thera ia in t'unada aitd niott oUot uf«t rouiiiriea? Mr C — Yea, in lh»! • 1 '•. »»r th >*^ wb » clu nut j.rii|».'rly under- alaad tha cultiv.iti;Mi of l.u I, i4f>r »•« nfpln iho l-'r<>iif:li Aea- diaaa, vrho do better gt'oernily itp^Mkio^ wIihh |tlinlinj pMiittHM aad aowiog oata among the '•tump* tli «ii limy d<> on old firiiia. Coun. Mali BURTON. — What valuo do you Mct upot« iIm laada of Mr Kdwar 1 Cunard? Mr C. — S»ma of ihmii are worth bat little, and anne are very valaabia- Upon the «ihnle, I think they are n^ valu.-ibto aa any ia tba coantrf , aicrpting tho«o which are near Ch'irlotteinwB. Cobb. Haliburton — Ara tha farmara on hia aetata gaa- artlly fraaholdata or leatahoidaraf 232 TBI LAND OOMMISBION. Mr C— Th«y ara all iMMhoMera. Mr Ed«r«r4 Ciup4 kM •old no iHnd. Cooo. liALiBumroii.— U iko real |Niid regoiarly^ Mr C.'Tho root '» gooorolljr wail poiti op. Cooa. llAi.iBuaToii.— Aro Ihojr gatieroUy tpoaliing improv- iof thoir properiioi, whilo iho lotiio ore boing botioi pmtii Mr C— Ai a geooral rolo it m iho eaao. Caaeompec haa pr»* grooood aa faat aa aoy diairiet ia iho Itland, ihoagh iho paapla ihoro oro loaaolioldoro. Cooa. iiALiauBTOM.-- lio jo« know ol aaj Ireoboldora par- elMoiag laaaeholdaf MrC. — I havo koowa oTaotroral. I believe ira peraoo takooa foaey to a fariu, or thinka it will aoit hiai, ho duoo not rojoct it oa oeeooot of ila boing a loaaehuld. Con. UowB.~l>o yoo aol think tbo deairo to bocomo fraa* hoMoro :a almost uiiiv«iaalf Mr C— No dohbi the iitoet «v«ta«d |. refer to bo froeholdero. Com. llowB — \re the ferma heio auperior to what tliej •?• ia Nova Heotio f Mr (!.— I havo bei;n tlimaoh aovnr^l paria of Nova Soolio, aad frtiio what I have ae«>n 1 conaitjcr iho firma there ora goaaraiijr apeakinii inferior tu what they are oo tho lalaad» taoagh iho hAO«ca aro bHtcr than lhi>v are hrre. Com. HOWE.— Do yun ihmk thii ilie diflienliy iiboot land ia tbio laland hat principally beenoMOn^'il by puliucal agitatioal Mr C. — Principally oa that eecouni. Caan. Thnroaoa erooa-oixminoa Mr Condtll — >Aro thora aat aorUin condiiiuna in ihe original grania ebool aeliiing iho Towa* •liipa with a nombor of German Froieaianta t I havo never os- aaioed about that. I did not romo h«ro to give evidoneo ra- opaeting foreign Proteatanta. Now do yoo aa a proprietor lad oa agaal think it ia unnereaaory to look into ihia mailer ? I nevor fronM^H mya«if nhoot it. Do yno think iho pfnprtotnre* tiiloo ara good i I do not know; I am no lawyer; hot thia I boliova thai they aro aa good aa the tiilo to landrd property ia Towa tad other nlacea, h«ld by private individoala. All bod alika Cagother f Thro tho titiea in all iho world may bo bad; aaar Uukt Ua prOiMaiiiuQ l\»mi n«» Inwjm wueid pel forth. Yoo eaid that a peraon w .old lake 2ft yeara lo porehaao hia farm at XlOOi f}p yoo adhere lo the 8iat<^menif I oay a man eoeld do it. Da JOB conaider it cuohl bo done aa iia average ihing? It might ba aboat that. Then the nian'a family would crow up, and at iba aad of 25 Toara h'w farm would bo worth only £'ii»f Tho yoong ■oa of a family eeldoro remnin on a farm; ihi>y go ««vay. D« tboj go oir tho lalandf Well, oomo of tbrm «lo, bni not •• ■May ao haa boon alatod before ihia Coon. Ihoee who loava Iba lalond aro generally thooo who bava booa brooght op ia iba oMar iottlomaata. Cam. Ilowa.— Ci it a eommoa thing to romit arroaro of raalf Mr Ct--Oa tha Conarda* properly I eoold OMma many eaaaa b wbieb taaaota roeoivod poiooaal aoqoittaaeaa, aad aavarol THK LAND COMMISSION. 233 wlMf* r«c«ipta have iMen giv«n for • proportian of nrroart, o« ■eoMHt of niicTofiaaa or poverty. iloa. Mr CokBi. — llo yoa Icoow ofA^ii fl«aei of ejtfclmeat M iMUt Mr C. — Net any daring my ■ff«aey* On ihn Mmin Caii«r4*« proportv oo inlnj«*My faitbrully during yoaro of •pwrrm trial, — yeara of aoflering and privation which OBtphatir^lly ** tried men*a aoala.* '"Cheerfully abandoned their worldly poraeiMiona rather than givo countenance to •edition and rebellion by becoming ciateoa of the Am«*rieis Ropablic. — ahoeld have met with anch harah and oniuat treat- OMOt from any elaae of Ilia Majeaty'e aubiecta, but moro portiisB!arly f)rof« men who had tliema«lvi>a failed to perform Ihoir own eolomn engageaioniatollia Mnj«>aty, and who actBallr MMCoeded in obtaining certain valuuMe piivilegea on the green) of their vannted conceaaiona in favonr of the aaid refogeea, d(0. It will, however, be aeen, on reference to the docomenia aboro roTorrod to, that Hie Majeaty'e gracioni intentiona with roapoet 294 -.^■ THK LAND rOMIflBSIOlf. |A th« mtilniniiiil of ihii Mi4 refrig^M in lhi« ItUnd werm _ ■lljr rrii4irated aiMl r«ini in l«ieit« ih«in in aaiUliU placw fur •Mlileinent. or to fatnuh ihem wiih the nece««ar)r sranit, or «rkar« loe«iinat wtiim provided and xrnnla iMa«>d, clogging thoat with ««ndiliona of aaeh a mringent character ■« to rendar ■ Mrn;! eomplianeo tli#r«wiih vklflly impraetirahia, — aliha r«- pagnniil in iha nfMril and mienliona of iha pmprialora |Im4iy'a allowanco oa iIm Slat Jaly, 1793, — aathnrising the local Governmani lo iaaaa grania to aach uf ilia aaid refageea, dtc « aa were tkaa ia poeaaaaiiMi of their rn the proprielora. Thia Act, it woold »f» pear, rainained a dnad letter, for #iiieea yeara afiarwardu, vis : la 1809, nn A<:l wna paaned ** to confirm the titleo and qatet Um poaaaaaiona and location in thia Colony of (^ American tayal •migrar.ta and disbanded tntopa." Throagh he infloenoa aii4 mitrepreiienlation of the proprietora at the (Colonial Olfica« it if Kraaaiiied, — for it ia dilficalt to aaaian aay other reaaoa,— iIm loyal aMeiii waa wiihht.ld from ihialtill, aad tha loyalida wara again di^nppoinifd in their eipeciatioaa of redraaa. la 1883, we find the loyaliaia claima again angagiag iIm attention of the l^*i«l«iare, and from ih« evMloer* tikss bsfora a Com.iiittea of the lloaaa of Aanemhly in thai year, it woal4 appear that even than, many of tha aaid refageea or tliair rapreaantiitive* were atill withoal either the allotmeata or graali (roniiaed them by (luvernor Patteraon ao lar back •■ tha yaaff 793, ilthnugh repeated %ad argent applicaiioae had been inado lo aacee«aiva Governora for the ajnia. Several of thaea Govar- Dora wara tlieiiiaelvoa eiienaive pro|>rietora and land rpacalataras faal wliaihar land prnprieiora or otherwiae, they all aaeeaadad« ■ndar one pratctt or another, in evading a compliaaea with ihaat applicationa, and depriving the loyaliato of their jaat righia. In the year 18:>-), therernre, a Hill waa paaaad by tha Hoaat of Anaeinlily ** for the relief of the Amencaa loyal emigranti aad disbanded troopa in thia Coluny," which Bill, after Iwo or llirae year** cnn^ideration, wae avealaaily ** Barked** bj Um Lagitlativa Cuaneil. In 1839, a aomewhat aimilar Bill, afiar aadargoing eartaia amaadmento in tha Lagialativa CooaeiU Caally paaaad all tiM THiS LAND COMIII88ION. 235 Branehet ol th« l^gitUiare. Thi« Act, thoanh \f—i spAa fair %mA f qwiiabU principles anJ •minenily €«icMUiMd la affurd aom« Valiaf to iha |Mir«i«?« miereatad, wt!h:;iil doing iijuatica lo aaj Mia, waa, nolwiihatanding. di4.illtiwtfapp«)iiiied and f >il«d in all lh<>ir aiieiiipia to oblaia ra^reaa, buih Iroin iha |iMprri.il aiid l«»Ral (ju*«rnin«>nt«, wa a««r raapecifally appeal lo >oMr Kicallanciea, iraiting that jnm will giva iha •abj«>cl-mailar of Uiia MrnioriNi yoar nariuua an4 dalibcrata eonaidaraiiun, and that, in ih« aierciaa of iha ampU powara wilh whicli yoar K«e«ilaMciaa hava baen inveatad. vu« 'S.'iW mHini tMcui •veil rvii*>r aa lu yoar Mcellennea, nfler due MStidaratHNi of all iha l4Cta of iha eaaa, may aaeui iiiaal* Cigaad oa behalf uf iha maaiinf.) J. BARIIKT CXJOPKR, H. IIASZ^KH. ^^ V- ni:OU(SK BAGNAIX. STKIMItN HOVYKK. NICHOLAS JKNKIiNS, ClwrtoUetown.P. E. I, 26ih Sept. 1860. J' ' Tlia n^patalion alao pra^anind lo tho Court othrr docamoaU coaiainipg aria of ihn Loctl l.fgHLluiv, proclam.itioiia, 4(c., is rtfaranca lo tha l^oyNlitia Com. llowB — How many doKandaata of ihcaa paopla ara Iboraon the laland.'' Mr CoorsK.— I iim n»t able to aay aiactly; (ome others preaent may be nhln lo «l»ta. Com. * a aiaiement rmp^riingihe ahana- M manner in which ihe l.u>niiia NfTiTiii ihe aetllemaat •f tho qaeeiion, and it ia bul fn'tr lo give ih^m a hftaring. Coan. llAi.iB«jaTON. — The paiii>>aMgiinot whom ihe chargaa •fa made, are dead, and cannot be heaid on their own hehalfT Com. RiTCNiB. — Whrn were ihe pmcerdiosa taken in dia- paaaeaa thoaa refageea whu h^d aett!ed upon ilie Lnda atioued to iWmr Mr HAasABO.— Ahnot 18n|. Com. (iBAT. — Did 1 Boderalaod joa to i«j that thaj coald •at abiaia Coaasal t "".^".X^,.- ■ L.. ■ n , • 'i.' ' ' '•' I^l-, ■ ■ ■ A-. '-t- ;M»r. ■ ■ > -. ^^- '--■-,■ ■* -....■..-M^-' • "ppiliiil S36 THK LAND COMITISSfOV. Mr llAtsAaD.~Y#«. Com. rrapting here, reada a proiaal againi*! any inv<>»ii|!tiiun iiito the l.oyaliM qaeetioa, and wbbcfl it to be pUced on Tile ] Coan. TiioMaoit. — I proleat ygiintt thia proleat goiag apoa tha file of il. ('uarl. Com U .IB.— Surely not. Mr Tliomaun! Why, prolaata ■ra alwayN mnde in nuuriji iif law; and ran there l»e any haroa is entering the protect ? We cannot refute it; beaidea, 1 ibiak iC ia a ^ety proper course fur Mr llalibarton tu purnna. Com. llowK. — It ia no harm fur buih partiea to protaat,for though we wera to endeavor to aetile ail matiera rnnnectad wilb Ibia qaea;lon, it ia jaat poaxilila wa have no right to enter apoa tbli aabject; and in that cata it will set the periple at rest. Dal if lUO,fUU acrea have been given up by the proprietora to tbo Loyaiia'a, it may atteci oar deeiaiun upon ihia qaeatioo. I am vary aoitoaa aa one uf the (.'omuiiatiooera to probe all thaao oM I, and if wa can aettle all tbuao tliingt which have ao loag diatorbad thio fair laland, whatever time it aliall uka aa, wo Aall ba very happy. My opinion ia,thuagh it ia qaita right for Mr Halliburton lo protean on behalf of hi* clienta, that we bavo a right to inveatigate the ca»e of the Loyalista aa •'ell aa otbora. Com. RiTCMiB.— it will be aatiafactory tor aa to tbiak •lUrwarda that we have lovaatigaled thia aabject, bocaaao if Ikero haa been no error then tho matter will bo at raat; bat if llMro haa, how unhappy we would faal, if wa had aot Ukoa ovi- 4oaco apoB it. Com. llALiBUATOir — Yoa will alio ha va to reflect that yo« havo taken ap iind agitated a qaaatioa, oo which wo woro ■01 prepared to enter. Com Gray.— I think with Mr Howe that wo have fall powor !• aotor into all theaa queatioae, and think it qaita propor to pro- «ood wilb tho invaaiigation. Com. RiTCNiB,— if yea can show, Mr llallibartoa, that wo Imvo ao right to considor thia rabjact, or cao bring forward aay- *' THB LAi9 COmCIWaK. sn I tliMie l>svii« «■ Laportaat bMrisg to that ttToeitWa tball b« |l«4 3« Im r •!. Mr UovvKR ^mea^^t — TH« entm i« r^feranc* to my falhar*! alaiaa for hMiil winch l« had a right to obtain poMeaitM of ao- CMcdifig i» th« prnelani4«M>i«, waa takca iato Chancarjr, a«i laai b) biw ; and irpmieif «l amptf aiaca !• get |io»a a^iMi vf tha bi»d |irn««d annarcraftil. A/t«r a fcMT wrd fimi«rir.h'ii iMopateh el 1833, ihr Qutt K-ntu tvrre rctnni^ u\t i hern unahla lu prurure «; I Attend Hrrn an pritpririor of l.ut 5li, nfpail dI'I.oI 41, and of »tnall irarla in tnhfr parlii of Ihu li«lind. I hnva bean rrqanvipd lo givn my viewt r<>;aiJini( Ihn cnu«e of iha p««rat faeiirnieni in lhi« INilnny miiIi rfttpfrt lo tlu- qucatton %nn are rnlird wpnii lo cun«id(!r. 1 cautu tu (hia lalaod iii I81€ M an mIKcmI rfip^cily. Com. (inav — Wh.tl «>fli-« did yoa than hold .' Hon. Mr 11 — Thtt rn'mvoot MHrKliiil. Cnm. Iin AT — Hhi» vttftt th» daiiM^ i.nhat officer f Hnn, •'^Ir II — The <-iiice w.ia t miieciire. . . . <««*veruor Hinilli ahnal khe ya-r IMI7 ecrlwilitd h.ci'iidtjd I know n«* K^rhent w~e very unpopuiMr at lh.it tuna, (iuvaraor Bniiih difTMcnd with Iha fieopla, and tha L.4;gi>iatura waa ool aanimMn*'d in meet fur foar yearn. C«Mfi Hows —In whai irianner were the roada and bridgea kiM . Hon. Mr II. — (tovemor t*miih did riotbing wiih rrapcet to Ibam. lie left mora nvrplaarn'tney in ilia Trfaiiur> llian there liaa been in if »iue«. Ab»ui iSiO, Mt William Cottpitr bteanio agant for ll in iha agfory until tli« f.tll of Ittit. lla atated la evidenea bafi ra yi^a that the leut whic^ Iha prnprinitti t the Ui** l.ior of the Townahip with the !••««. on he hiin^vif hnd no pr>v<(; th« •affk farma fn 3(Nl )rara Aa anme of the ariilara had laaaat kel«ira he here me agent, he aahir acted the time «ahieh &hey ha4 keld cWw fro« ibuM tahisb Sm gave. Oirecilf afiar he ceaeei 17 '^ ' sas THB LAND COMHUBIOr. a««r iighl, aad told lh« lananl* on thai aaiata iHii ].iird T«i«»- M«4 hnd nn tilia tn h'm lind — iNal it wa« forrritcd *»•• •t<>««at •f aaa-fulfillniaai of iha emiditiiiM of aanlaniAi.t. for a-varal jcara ha cncuan^fd ih«* t«nanla tn wHklN>l«| the pii>ni-al af their rania lo ilia iirnprialitr. on tlii« pfatM«l 1'Iia laNaalt •atarally anoagH Imianed if liim, anJ many of ih^ni dxl nnt pmf tlM>ir r#ni« for a naidiai of va«ra. Almut IK37, I cmniti^ncadl !• proraad ag«iit«t 3 •>? 4 of iha tenania to ctni%inre iliam that thay alioald itot \i*tnn lu Mr Ouipar. I hud only. htiMatar. !• COMairart prorrrdinK^. a« ihay cama and arlmitMlnl^rd. llaC I did prncead ngiinei %*r Cmipar hinivrlf. 'I'o •Imw iha iMiaaral iaflaanra rirrriNi^ liy ihia parann, I inav riala liml Iho Nrr«>ar« ■ceaitialalad dnnng my aganey. amnanird in iibnui Xi.ftAO. la 1843 or 1814. I^wd Jainaa Tn«vn*(!nd died. lU It-fi hi« ■roperiy here in liia widnar, by will, hat tha wi'l not li«inf lanaliy aaerul.*d. iha ptnpeity fell In hi« heii«. whtt aa« •ignrd ii In ll'uka and llfndrrann. aa Tru>le«a, and liy ilicm it «aa oinveyrd, b« puichaa**. In ma. C«>«n UiTCHiB — \V.i« there no enn-idnrnlil* riei'em^nl aa tbia queaiion. b«f«Ha Mr CiNiper commanccd hi< ajiiatiwaf lltHi. Mr II. — Not a woid. Cum. Ilnarc —la it nut ri^ht to aiala* in ja«ii:n tn nil paitiaa, that tha Joor '^ of ilia lloM«a refer in n hiH li«rH<|| |mi>c la •aihorica tiu ..> tiaat of landa, long bcfuia Mr Ci»u|i»:r loal hia •gaacy t Hon. Mr II.— If ihara had baaa aay a|itctioa at aa aarliar 4ala, it waa forgoiten. Cam. (ta AY —In 1829. yoa think vt had aniiralv died »at i Hon. Mr II.— Ym; wnd Mr Coopar waa Uia fitat of whooi I %aard to qaa«Mun lillra. Cm«««. iltk^t. !h.I *f r r '"p^* ••«!• any Gm*mmm rr«a •vr haar that German Prolaitania W9t9 any batter ih^n oih*r I'Miaaiania t (l.«aihiar.) Hon. Mr II. — No. Hrohihlv (•nvarnmani wi4li«!<| la faenr tiMaa Prutaatanta, thinking thtt Driiiab aaljeoia ware too valaakic ta aand oat hara. Cim RiTCNiK.— la it not vary aataaiahiag that tha propria* lara adapted ihe praciina uf le.tKly aail, eovarad witk JaaifMir NRii apraca. CtNit. K I re Ml a. — What wnaM yoa Uka fur yoar Itad f Hum. %U II —If tlia a«-l inaan wihlaraa^i, lea^iohiild, aad ail. Yom •ra awara ihai lliara waa a reaarvaliun r»r a ||l«ha on Iha differ* aalT«twn«hip«: iha glabaoa iliat Lut lold in iSitt.at an averaga af Oa. 4d ua acra. Cmm. (iaav.— What waa Iha raaaaa that tbeaa laada war* ■aldf llaa. Mr. II.— Ttaeaaaa it araa diapalad to what Church thay fcal«Mig«d. . . I navar grantad ahorl laaaut; nevar ahurtar thaa for ttO yaara. U'la. Mr. If. than proflanled a /^.att. nt of the lala* ua hia •Slala, and aiau filial an abatruct c-' '^i>' ..J. llaa. Mr II. qa. When dtd Ihajr 99nft .AbuuilSlt. Whaiadidihaycouiarr^-^n ? Yurkahiraa ia f England. Iluar many oania f Ahoat lOOr -«i)!u>ia. In wrhal airaaiNotaneaa ara ihar now I In coiurorta'' t cmnataneat. What do yoM ct>ald ihay pareh.i, inaiit, aad a tanaat on tha M«« aalala had nvtt paid hiii, tha whola arraart on iba a«uta eoald b« lahaa rr«>in ona part of tha propartv on mhieb tha at i aaa w a t «raa anpaid. Wat it tha um that if land was lAld an a T»«vn- ihip by SharifTt vala for noa-paymanl of tlm land lai. that ilia |Mraon who boaghl th« land euald aalaei it labara ha plaaaad, if llMra worn diffareat dalinqaaaU f If thara wara 10 paraona n« (ka Township who had aot paid thair aaMWAaal, tha land a( •■• eoald bo aaisad for iha whola. Coan. Palm an thea ramarked thia wia tha raaaoa that Nr ll*Gowan waa abia to atata at (i aorgatowa . that ho had par- clMaad ao maeh iarx* at a low rata ia a locality aaar hia ow« ■till; wharaaa ha J aitaation at which it mifhl ba choaaa, ganarntlt knuwn. It woaM hava broaght a aa«h bighav . That law, howovar. waa «•! ia foreo aow. Wm. Dotraic, E«q., M. P. P., before tha Coart.— Ha ap- taarod ao proprietor for Lot SI. and agent for part of Lata t4« §1 at>d 69. Ha eabmitied a atatomeot ia wrning. which ba faad. Ha rainarkoJ— I may obootve that I have had a graal daal of aiporieaee on the laland, aa I have ra«ided hare atioal 40 yaara. The accoant of aalea of land which I have in nif llaad may bo incorrect, (t^r | havo foand it rtj diAealt to ab» Mii« ittUMtumiUm Twr ibo iaai loriniAiil. Oat ti'iiiay are «nc o rrwt| aay p^raoa may atata ao; I ahall bo prepared tn hoar him. I IIM18SI01I. 941 Mr D. — I do iial« («■• was iiiau* . •••«••• «••«<( «t« ••••> • M«> «M. ..«.««• IMM thai bo«ik waa injda yna did out UfM of any ulliar aaia ai* •ape arlial ia down on thai papai ? I did not itiiiik of any uihar. Old yaa know »f any oih,>r or not ? Ya«, I knn.« tTiliti nian*a (•aim mg to a certain pciaon. ) Can yoa tliink of aMyntharf Not of any otkor. llid yoa then ("aks tliit hit oat aaa lairalaia* ■lani ol tha aalaa on yoar aatalo ? I did. Why than did yo« •at Mt lliein all down? [Hero thara w.ttf auino confaaHin a«4 ilia K«porti>r did not haar nnyanaw«r.] Yoa boajtht a pjirl of Lard Halkirk 'a asiata? Yna. How lung wara )oa agani fof Lard tioikirk? r'rom IH3S. Whan did yo^ parrhatar |« 18I^A. ihd yoa rainit inarh lo l^ord Solkifk whiln yoa wara his agont ? I eannol ntnttt, 11* va yau iHtoka tu ahow what yoa rm» nhiad ? Iha va aa abairaet in what ia dun. I'uttmg all togHihar, did jo« romit Xlnu a year? Yn«. £ 4UU or X&OO llow maeb ayaar did yoa aay T Front XSUO tu X4Ua or £5Uii a yaar. lliat ia a wido margin to tn^itl ovar. la thia yoar aiaianianl cue* raei ? I nhould ihink to. Co«a. Palmir.— ThoCounaal ia taking ap t> > much lima. Cam Gaat.— lift tviahra tu alFoct tho (ram of Mr l>uaaa*a alalamaaL Mr D. — lla ia not able la do that. I ihrnw down tha gaanllat. Coan. TitnMaoN. — I inko it up. liuw inurh did yoa pay flalkirk for tha land you boaglil .' I am nut biund tu nniwar. Y53 ha"? t*:rT.ra •?•••*•• ••••• ••"•"••••, •••«•• Unvt^ laii^n ii un aaain, hava yoa not ? Wfll I am uot afraid to uiako ih>* iiiatniii«ot, fur I aarncd thi> in<>nny l»^ my inla<«iry ; it wua UAi.lil. Hid yoa graat licaoia« to tha ian«nta to cat wood on tha I'ltiato 1 A groat nMny did n«it iui|uir>' th<*tii. |)il yoa allow ilio tunanta lu eat limbar whern tliay cuull find i( T Y«a. And did you cvnr pur- eha«a it ? Yea ; I wi«litai stiraoruioary : I waa aiiowod iiy Lord sal* kirk lo do ao. liid vua aa agwnt of Lord 8t*lkirk agr<>a to giva a earlaia piaea of land on which lo arwct a chuich, and aftar yoa baeaeia propriator yoa refatad to gi«a it * I would nut giva it la tt:^ faopla U» baild a small church, and at iha place thay da- ■irad tc kava it ; bat if thoy had agreed to boiid a church at tha •raaa raade, I woald hava givan iham tha land, and a haudtoma daaaiiaa bacideo. [A few moira qaeaiiona wara pat by Ceaa. Tfcaaiaon ; bai wa Ihink ihaaa will aoffira ] Caaa. HAi.iK.''-v;' nu LAIIO OOMMimOK. latm iIm ■ ■<■ wiilMtl •••■•, aad eWMiag UMir r«f«f aai f«r- Mr. 11— Ym ; ••i 1 (Mtrt kaowa p«*fl« mII UMir i«pr«v«4 ImmIiiK*. aii4 iIms b«f fiMM^i of •ai«,)f«tr«4 Umi, tU,mn. HAbiaoaroa— Ar« ibara tay Gavafa«a«i Ua4a Mar fasr |K«p«riy? Mr D ^oaa ; aw i«Har)r mcarvM aor laf alitl Uad. TIm staiaiaMi ol Rabrrt Hi aoa d(«iv«rt. Caq . wm Uiaa raa4 kf Cava. llaliiiartiNi. tTccr-? ^Vr*-*>*. ''.•rt. TaImuiI TrtMsarnr. Hafara Uia Coart, •mi ataoMMd by Caan*. Falmar Do yaa kaaw if it m eait«fl|. arjr la eh«M« Uwd ■•WMiuaai for all ilut appMit oa iha faca af a iraM T it it lU* ilui btaa iba ea«iir atiaiaa. £l2.UiO waa iha coal af Mr Rdward <*ana«d'« p'npnnjr , amU •• :.;:z'i' *<•• MMttsMl Caaard'a Mtalaa. ihay wara b«iy|iii for Xl5.ua art* a r«rm«r, aad eaa giva yoar opiaioa abaat tha aoil and iu eapabiliiiiM f Had wa bad oo laaaabold laaara, wa w.*Mld Itava liaoa abia to eallivaio oar land*, aad ■Mka prograM. Hat iba bard«bip waa tbat «va lud to antar ialo ihaeoaatry wiibaat mada, and ctMnnianca ia tha aiibroknu foraaL Thoao who have k»pt oai uf debt, bavo ovennaked tbainaolvoa aa wail aa thair faima, and tha juaag inaa go aaraj from tha lalaad. Com. Hows.— It hi« \i9.». *^:;.- M* '♦••""V biiiiai!lf. Mr K. — Hag yoar pirdun; I bava workod hard to karp umi m tha hooka of iba uiifrrbaota in ('bartuitviuwn. Com. IfoWK. — Voa bavofoand tbia a atroggla f Mr K.— 'I baro, and bavo waaiad tbia corpui to a mora ihadow of what it waa to knap my own. We would like to gat aar Carma oa fair term«: and hope that ibia agitation which hiu baaa roliiag aroanl u« like a ibundar aiorm may ba aet at raat Com. llowB. — I am afraid that let oar dociaion ba ever aa wiaa, it will n«rt calm tba alam«nta. Tha atatamaata ara aa aaattetiag, that wo acarcely know bow to find oat ilia Irath. Mr ft.— My ront riaea. in 100 yeara to 2« fld an acre. I wiahad la parehaaa ihi f«a aimpla of mv land, bat waa aaked Ct fta aa aara for it. (Mr H. J. Candall in aome luannar eoatradietad thia atatamaai, hat tba lleporler did not bear hia remark.] Coaa. llanaLBV. — Wo wiah yoa to atata what yoa coaaidar la ha tha average >i«ld of oata ia thia blaod par acra f Mr a.— Ahoat to b^ahala. t44 THI LAND OOIQIBSIOV. Cms. l*B»«i.Bt or wtiMir Mr R ~Ab««i 8 ba«ii«i« ihM fmt. A«4 b«rl«y •boat tt m Coan. IIkhvlkt — \Vh4i nf hay * Mr R.'-l •hm aiia lima f Mr It —A IiiiIm, bat aoi mach, iNwaaM il i« m hijh liar« llMl ftapla cannot affUril to iiuo-Iumi it. Coaa Umnmi.mr .Wi..t A^ ^^. .»::-•: '^ :U ,«:•• ««' mm •■ vaar Townthip f Mr R.— I woMi4 laka it i« iu wildaracaa alala al fta alarlbg Cava. Palms*.— Mr Kaaaadjr. haw aiaeli whaal 4i4 ya« raba laal jraar par aeia f Mr K*^Abuat 15 ba«h«l«. Cava. I*ALMK« — Willi, haf f Mr K. — .Santa fl or 7 hi»nif4 arwi^ht la half a tea. Mr Jamaa Cuaria —It a|i|irar« (torn tha iaforinatioa wkiek I eaa gat that baih laiiJl«>ril« ami tanaau ara fivea lo miht •Ufgaratail ataiemania. I linnk with a cartain fanilaman of iht ^aariatora, thai tha aveiai^Q of nnu |i«r acra u from 40 la ft ■wtla. I hava pal oa ab-mt SO barreU of lima to tha aera-» mIiMi eoMfl aboat 4« td a Itarr^t — snJ aome maaara, aad kata kad ahoat 4^0 baah«>U of iarietMHi Mviag omi« laliaii la iIm aia« IwarJ, WilliaMi M'ltill, Rm| , fea;r'iMr af tlia dalafalaa, ra- larf :— ** I waa aa iadivNiaal eaaa of bardahip, and a« tlMr« ■laay atliara aimilar. il •aght to ba Iim«4. Tha 4i«pM« Iha laa4 kad anara, b«4>aaaa it v^aa aaidi la ba Layalial aa4 tiM Mi4ivi4aal alladaJ !• had eaataiMlcd thai Mr Siawart bail aoriKbi la il.** A fMraa* by iha aaaia orCarragbar WM at lbi« jaaeiarv bmagM bafoca iba f?nart andar iba cbarM mt thm ffH«r«Hr k«vii*« Km iMtad K.»«i».| tnanil wiib a baadbafabiM. Mid laabiag vanr aaarall. Ha mint a raaidaat on LmI SO, aad bai •Miflainia af«ia«t Mr Knbait lliuea 8l«wart, iba praprialari wb« kmi eaaaad him m ba lakan a |>ri4onar. Caaa. TNoacaoN.— Ha i« a wiaaliar aiia« iba land, aad baa bM« wrHiad by Mr Stawart r«»r aboai 18 vaara* raal, aad it wdartd by him la ba aaal to jml la-aighl lla ankfd parmlaaioa •f Iba Sbar iir la praaaai bia caaa lo y«»ar Rtrallaneiaa. MfCAaaAnHsa atamia«Hl by Cfaaa 1*bomMNi — Didyoaavar Hka a laaaa t I aavar look a laaaa or agraamont fraM Mr S H '^ift. I board I ho man bad no liila, and I navrr tnak a laaaa. War* yoa avar a««Hl * Vaa, aboat T or M yoara ago. Ha was ••••yad iboii baeiu«o yoa wuald noi uka a loata or agraainaat t Y«n« and I buva board nntbing aboai it aiaea, aatil I waa arraat- •i laai aigbt for XRt Hid yoa kaoar ibal yoa war* lo ba anad ( I kaow nothing aboai il. Tba ^boriir, H. l.oivowontN, Fjn|., waa tban oallcd apo«. n* aaid— I want down in Carragbor'a pUeo, and want into bit twaw, wbieb i« tba moat nii«4inibla abiida that I avar bohahl. ! oaw a woman, and anma oHtldran; bat ba waa not at bama liifaalf. I waat and loand bim at a nai|hb. I dt •ac tbiah ibaro waa £5 wm ih ahoai bu placa. Whan I braagbt bim t9 T«Mr PalaMr baa tuiadlhat iba paraaa baa •■ MraaaMot, bat ha aajra aoi ; aa4 wa hava tba avidaa^ af Iha Ma balara iba aibar. I ««ra tba Coaaaal aa tha ey p atita iMa la ba praparad ia rafaraaaa ta tbii eata* aa I aball aaar aiaba Halaanata wbiak I wnaM aiM aibarwiaa hava daaa. Caak How a.— I will ouka oaa f t«ra obaartraiioaa. Wa Hi Wpa thai thtifm woaM ba iio adviintiifa lakaa af tba Caauainiaa bf tba taaani« aa ihair part; ar by tha proprialara agaia att laair part «• it aiay ba MmaiioM. otviag to tba araai aMaa af •▼yaac' itini a«, ba(ara oai daaiMM ba OMtlf. Waiballvarj laaab regret, il dariag tbia daSay, ibara •boald ba aaj a§ ya a» Uaa af tli« dicpata bataraaa laadlard aad taaaal. Ib wiff LonawoaTN.— >l may bara aiala tbal Mr 8latvwt» aiaaa tba apaa ia g af tbia Caart, baa aaaplaiaad ta tba Ltaak Qavaraar aad CaaaeiU ibat I bad aat diaebargad ay datj ■■ BlMrUT, ia aol arraatiag tbia pa r a aa taaaar. Caaa. PAkMsa. — ff tbia paraaa baa aa laaaa, 1 fHMt tba Caoiiaiaiiaa bava ta da witb bia aaaa; tbav atara aalf la adiadieata batwaaa laadlard aad taaaal; aad if ba baa M laaaa lia ia aal a t aad bava aitbiag la da ibaa Ibia, iba«, lat, aad tba wMiMai. Caw. Hows.— Thara iaa Hifbav Ibai mil daal witb H. Caaa. HALiavaraw aMda aaaM aUiaaMala,sbaariag tbal iki ■yalaai afaaliaaliagaaMaMadabla bara araa jaal aa bad aa ia Ite aaaa af arraara of raat. Ca«i. RiTCNiB.— Wa bava baaa auda la baliaaa all alaa| bf Iba prapriators ibai Ibara wara aa aaaaa af bardabip aadar tba taaaal ayataim aad bara ia a aaaa tbal baa eaiaa apt wbiall dJa l iai t ly abawt tbal ibara ara aaaaa af hardabip aaaaad kf ■bariff La^owoaTH aai4 ba bad alaa a arrit far £fT a g ah t tMibar aiaa aa tba mmm aaiala, bat ba bad aa yai baas liladbim. Caaa. HAtiaaaraa «id ba did aat laptaaaa i Ifr •laivan, aad bad aatbii^ la da wilb tbia aaaa af Tba SbariC raaiarhad tbal iba laad aa wbiak Cillij^w ttfa4 «aa paar, aad wanb vary linla. -^ ,. ,^ > m lAm oomnssfoir* t0 tiMriff ~N«, iiiud! PariMfi it « worth ul Otarttt^JMrMd. •art r«r k f h—i It M •■ Mr*. Tmobssat 8«pc IT. ISM. Cm*. TnoMioH mm^* m«m MplaiMiiM* i« regard i« Um IM sf CalUfhaf which h«4 h«M brfor* ih« CoMri jrMl«f4«y l^ M«iMig< ll«aliaeh«4 no blama (o the (iov«r«m«iil in i!m omI* j lar, Ihoagh Umjt had aaai a laitar to Um dharifT inqoiriag whf IIm wtH had Ml baon oiMotad. :!:=. »*•*-•••> P4i.Mc«. IT. P. r..M. I. r. uriim ih« Coart.— (Mr. Paluior brgin hia rvmatka by rapvlling a eharg« ■m4o again*! huu by Him. Mr. Waibaiinn, iMifuro tho Coart. wIm« aiiiiag al Ml. fclaanor'a, ralaiivo to hit (Mr. P't.) acta of •waotablp uvar aomo land on Liy oircalaled by caruia partiM M to Iha raaaita why I hava iioi apiMarad baAtra yoa to laka ap and advu* .tia iha eaaa uf tha (anaiiiry. It haa baas braadly aa)«riad )bai I, lo coinmun with iha uthar ntoi- bar* of Iha Uov«rniii«ul. nhuaUl hava broo iha fint la praaaal iha gnavancaa uf iha lauaniry Tir yoar CHiaidara* Iim; and ihai i4«t««d of ihia, wa war* noi only aundiiif aloaf ffam ihMCoarl.baiatfcrctlv antjeavouiing to favtirihapropriatora. I waa pla a aod lo hoar Mr riiumaon'a roinark« raapaeting iha laitar oif iha Uovaramani lo iho rthm lif : ii wit ftir wardad only aecatding to iha coiuumni coaiao of baainato. Tlia Utlar of tha Oavaramaal la tha dharidf w%» otily a Uiiar of inqairy, aaking aaplanatinaa why tha writt wera not eiuoaiad; and I can atMra y««« iM« Cjuwaittiiicot hava no dcntrf: v.i c?tr"T"«;'» pr*»rc«l:n5t af Ihia kiad o« Iha pari af tha propt iatora ; and if ihay had thia da- akm ibay woald oat hava chuata Mr Hiowari aa tha naai aiaoi* Ciry propriatar to whoai aach aid ahoald ba givaa. llto Qav't vaaadaairatu limii tha invotiigaiiuna of thia Cuarl. Thay faaraoMt tha oiajortiy of tha lioaM. which caina la cartoia ra« iaiaiiaaa aa thia qaaaiioa, aad Ihay fael'boaail to aarry aat ihaM ffaaolationa; bal ihay do not f««l thatna^l vaa buand to da aay* Ihiag farihar aa tha part of iha tannntry. Tliav ronaidar thai llwv ara andar abligation to carry oat tha viawt of tha HaaM. •■d for thia parpaM ihay hjva ralainad tha moat abia Coaaaal arklifci ihak raaeh to adv.«eato iba caaaa of tha taaaoiry. I vaald bag to ramark that tha firat iatiination which I raaaivad thai Iba prapriaiara iataadad to raiaia Coanaal waa aa Friday, MNW !•• dayc bafara Iha aaaiiag of iba Cammiaaioa; and «9ha« iUb waa baawa, a (alagraai waa aaat imaiadiataly—- that vary day— M Naar BniMwiab to raiaia Mr Tbotnaaa aa babalf af tha I laiMa l aa a anaa taawavafaai M* m liM MMiiif CrfW«iag« It li mii kf < Bsl UmI pMltai ■■■■■Dili m'nk tte 0««« htr* •«< gi«« (hvir vmw* i« r*far4 to ihii i«^«irf . Hmm, mg •piaiMi ■padUg laa4. Ttora it. far asaaipia, ito C4«ii Itaai qaaMto^ a 4n Mbiael af laar. wnk n>m^m«-9 im •tM'.k .. u --::ci;.:;;i;^ ^ praMa! to giva aijr apiaiaaa. a« I to«a givaa ih««i i« ito La«la- Utora toCira. Bat wa da aat 4a«ira la limil tliia CMrt to ito la^airy •• to wtoihar itoaa rral« hava baaa r»mhla4 ap to ISSt •r aal ; and if tht« Caan lliiak that itoy li«*a na« haaa ramiita^* Itoa lat ibia dart m 4wMa, aad la« Ito eaaairy iMva ito to««* iiaf if. Ab4 m wNb tto I'Mbary Keaa«vM. If ibia Caatt etoaM la iaqaira iam ibij ^aaaiioa, I ■« aa indiviiiaal rnurn k m •f Ito f*«v«ffam««l, aal aiy call««ga> fto <2nv«raai*al tova fall cttnttiiaica ia tto O— tal wbom ttoy bava tataiaad; indaad itoy tova abaady •toiaa Itoir abiiby to eaadaet ito mm. aa4 tto Uovamwaat tova a* tl««ira lu laka il aat af itoir tondc Ctoa. TMoMaoN.— Tto (lovavamaat tova la aa way at* laaiptad la ra«triat at ia ito aiaaaar uf eoadariing ito aaM aC Ito laaaatry Ttoy tova aialad ibat itoy wata atti prapart>d to ga fartbar ibaa tto raaalatiana of iba llna«a ; bat itoy di»tia«tfy mM itot Itoy waald aat aravMl oibafa frani making aay «a«H plaiaia la ito Caaaaal, arhicli ttoy mieht biva la ittTar. Haa. JoMW LoNOwoaTN. M. P. P. baf^tratto (Toart — Yaar BiMllaaciM ; aa Mr Palmar toa alrMdy addraaaad yt*a, I aaai M4 Mlar lato ito viaara af ito Qavaramaal raganling ito aaia- tmf km wbiab ibia ia«|airy abaald to aaadaelad t tot aa I f< •M« • tM p a e tobla uaniaa af ito Taaaairy af Ibia Ialaa4, 1 aMf to parmitlad la maka a faw raaMiba. I da aal biiaad la itaval aal af tto limto af ito raaalaliaM af tto llaaM af AaMmbly, dt vbMi ba4y 1 aai a mamba*. I will raad aM af iImm ri ' ** JVMif vitf, Ttot ia ito opiaiaa af Ibia HaaM tto toala af MJ nth arraagamaal atoald to a larga ramtoiaa af arrMfaaf rtftia aaw daa ; tad aMAad1y« tto givMg m^^f lanaai baldiag ■■iar a laag Imm. aa aptioa af parelMaiag bla laad «t a aariaia liad rait, at aay itoa to migbi ftad It aaavaaiaai w da m.** ftoM Ito iatoraaatM wbiab I tova ba4 wiUb a laraa at •Ttto paapla af Uua lalaad. I fcaaw ttol tto maai af ibM tobf raltavatf af ito lnMbnli iMMra. aad wMb by ami It iMf* ilHir iMMbM pmpMV MsraittdiM* (r«toli i IM i^ Ml AnAif «tf bvm iIm •pftrtMhi tf ftMig m lUvB.— D» jM miiMMi iIm pw yiit m i tr i ■■■■!§ ff Mr L«a«w«aTN.— I Mp i w t Um wwiMt vf mj c— ti n — l i « kf fiiv Um Urgar pt^fmttim of «Im«i «#• T«M«ia. 8mm hm •r lk« iMMirr MMf ba abto la MueliMa iha tumm m wliidi lUf raiUa ; km ikal m iIm •••• mI* wImtv ibara arc alraaf r««iU«| k M aal tiM faaarai rala ibrM]|H<»ai ilta Itlaad. Sa oiaay oaaaf b iMtaMW • aMiiar tU imfioMibiliiy far ■ paor maa la aaralMtt Um Cm aiaipla uf Iha Cti « Maay eiroaaittaaaa* aiay Mva is* •«*««««mI Im ^aMMi lliM wwtll ■• • failitr* i« liM mimm «» akllla ■a« i aarf aadar 4fa«rbaeli« lika Ibata, arraara of raal'liava oAa« •aaaaialaiMl la a vary f raal riiaal. Of aaaraa Ihora baa baoa ki ao«a iaalaaaaa a waat af iadoMiy ; bat wiib atany of iba taa. aalry who ara aaabia la pay iboir raal, ihia baa aol boaa iba •Ma> 1'boao, iboa* Kavo a rigbi la aipael ibat ibair eon^iiiaa will ba aiadioraio^ by Ibia Cuoil, I oaa afwak with aQai4aaaa •f Iba rfifataaaa bolwcaa iha eireamataaeaa of ftaalioMora aa4 laoaoboMar* ia iba 4i«triel arbieb I hava tha lionor to rapraaaal. Oa Lai tS for iaMaaco. iboM arhu ;»oa««>«i fraobiilda ara in moeh bailor eireain*i«aa«a thaa ilia olbof*. an4 ara eoniparalivaly ia- iafoadaal. Haeb |iar«oiia ar« oaablod lo iaarMoa ibair pco|ior|y la a lorafold loiio, having \Um o«oal oMan* of aoeeaM, and boiag aa4ar aa oWigaiioa la ih« iNoprtoiota. Bat (bo groat advaniafo which ra«al(afraai p««-^Ming propociy In Too oimpio i* tho noaoe ••4 aaalaaimoai ari«»MX frooi r moa of iMda|>aad«)nca. Uolooo aooM NMoaa ba 4a«ioeil l>v v iba laaMhuld«>ra ahall bo ra« Hoaoi of a pari ai loaM of IL . whioh it oipoefod uf thorn at praooal* ibov eaaaol becomo froobolilera ; and I fool it my doty la arga oa iboir bobatf opiio ihio bomKabla Coarl, tho nocoaaily of oaadjadieaiing th«l aid mxy ba aflTordad ihom. (to aao par- tioaiat aalau tbtl af Lord 8«lkiib— opoa which yoo will not ba rai|airad la adjaiieata, aa it h%» baeunia iha properly of tlia Gov- •raaiaai— >arroara tf root havo aeeomoiaiod lo tho «il«al of Alt.fOOor £I4.00«. 'Iliicahoart thai if ao maeh haa aeea- ■abiad oa aaa aaUl«. what a larga aggrogalo will ba iho aiaooal af onaorofar iha wholo laland. do ii will dorolvo opoa yoa la Maoidar how aiaah of ibia aboald ba ramiilod,— il boeng adniiltad M all haada ibai haovy orroara of roal baagiog ovor ibo Ihiad af a laaaal ara aaaaodiogly doproaiiog apoa him, and land la oramp hit iaor g ioa,— oad tho iavalaablo ioformalioa which yaa bova ■hiaiaid ia ihia iavaaiigatioa, will onablo y«a la doeido tha rola* liaa OMManl of orroara mi ih« diifMrnnl Townabipa. CoMk <2a AV.— Hhuald ihoro am ba a oniform rodoeiion t Mr LaaowaaTN.^Prrhopa tboro ahuold : bat ik« aiiaaiia« i'kMid* waold NMko a dilToronca ia lb«ir valoo, oad ia aoia pant aaar Towa, loaanta way bava hif hai roni la poy. Has. T. H llaviLAwo, Jr — Tkiaataiaaieoiiaao* carroalM Nfiidi ih« laaaala oa Lot B4 who aro ooar tho City ; thay hava Ml oa, high rtats la poy oo onmo who roaido ia oibor porta of iha N. 1. C«»»aLi.. Kaa.—Tba aaaia nay ha m\i wiih rawnl » Iha Taaaaia aa Lai id. ^ 18 - v./.. -' lit UM Bm. Mr t»» •liMoi i»lo cooaidoraiiM. I do aol ^rpooo !• ooict iota tiM ■abjoeta brofb t op in tbo 4Vtfml momoriala pro«oiilc4 to yo«i I oslj 4««ii« 10 lajr iho ciicoiatao c oa of «ij eoMtiiaooia bofor* Cma» CIbat. — Do yoo ibiok Iho paapio aro ool abia lo olr«f. flU Ibroofb, aod porebaao thoir tonaroo. aolcoo ibojr kavo a faa^ My or ao«M •mch advaalafo, witboot a rodoaiioo boiag mt$4m is Iktprico of lao4l t m i NOwoaTN.— It ia mf opIoiM tMt for a waa t« kt%lm !• th id* wiib a ayiall or w*aii Caatilj, tn warli o« aad mmkm • porebaoo, *• aaat to iMpoMiblo. Com. RiTCHri.— IK* yoa tbiok if ti«i« ww giwrnt, a ptfiM •aaU bojr kia farai, at aay 19 or If yo«r«* poieboMf Mr LoNOwoaTH. — 'hiojr eooM ia canaral, tboogli Ihoro art •aaoptioaal eaioa, vocb aa ibo oaa ara ba4 laac avaaiaf » Iklla ur aothiag cmM bo pai4 (Hm Mr Co I. a a bofo ioiorroplH bjr aomo roMMrli trbiab •ai dittiaetly board. Tbo Krportcr ciioaidota it dM to Mr Laaf» wartii la ata'to itoai ha admit* iho abovo ropit to Com. KitelMa*a aaaalioa inaj bavo booo vbat litrrally foil iroM bia lipo, aa Mr C tilM appaarato biivo niado aiMao objcctioa to k ; bat bo (Mr l».| Mya Ibat it ia aiaailoat fnim tbo wbolo eooiott (aa wall ibal par« IIm af bia avidoaea arbich pracadoa aa tbal arbiab folloara ill Chat tba aaaarar araa iaadvortoaily givaa. Ta rapraoMI bia rail Maaaiag, it aiiabl Moro proporU bava boM ai p raaMd tbM t **Tbay nifbt ia aama eaaaa bal aat g#aarally, aad tiMra ara at* •apClaaal aaaM oaeb aa tba naa ara bad laal atMiag, arbara lilila ar aotbiag ooold bo paid.**) tUm. KircNia.— Ara tba laaaobaUavi m iba Taaraabipa tHiieb yaa rapraMat aa iadaatriMa a« tba fraaboMara i Mr LaaowoaTN.— Yoa, awajr of tboM ara. CaM. RiTCNiB.— >Aad aa fragal 9 Mr LaaaaroaTM.— Yaa aa/aa fragal . . . I bava Ml Mlarad iaio tba aMiiar af litlaa. bal tbal la a Mb|aet wbiall f Ulil yM arill fally aaaaidar. I loka my olaad apna tba taaala* tiaao af Iba HaaM ; aad I bava advarioi M •Ma la parabaao ibair laadb, bat Miy apM ikt Utoj aaa abuia ibaai aa raaMaabIa taraMU i CI i I *K .1 1^ iiMO QQtaiiaHoif. 9»l Mr Laho vsarn.— Ual«w Um futim Imv« ■•• frvattfi, m tmm eilMT Mek •4T««Uf«, ilMy ••• mm aM* t« Matwi tiMir iMMlMUs'iat* fratlMMa; |M«call]r •peAiag Umm Kfbf la U* C«aiiti.i«a How AT. B«q.t M. P. P.--I wmIi lo oMkoo IWw irfco. A cttrtoio poraon Matod i« Coori thol I porelMWod • farai fuf X4M, whiek ttaionimt m not eorrool. C««. Gbat.— What 4M joo porchaao it for f Mf HowAT.— XMO. Bot I wooia tiao au*a that tiMffo le • bra* Marak atuekad to it. ao that it ia no eritorioa of Iho vala* if Iia4 faaomlljr ia tho laUa4. I woal4 at«o romarli that I kav* kaaf4 Mr HnlUiid auiorf horo that iharo waa nn iliMuii«r«Ailiii» •■ Lai M. ra)ar4ioi Iho laaaokol4 tonara. Thia it not Iha oaa# ftr tharo kaa ha«* aa graal diaaatiaraetioa amon| tha taaaata a« Ikal Taaroafcim a« oo aajr othor. tfonia of ihatn hava baao aooM nilai la laka m4w laaaaa ; ikvir Ural wara at la an aara. hot Ikoao tkay kata koao fo«co4 to taka at a aomaarhat hif har rata* Oao paraoa aiho roaiciad h«« loai bia farm atiogathar. \ aartaia 10, a mi4»w, ka4 a roioala af agraomaot, wkirk tho , whao aha praaao t ad it to him, ihf aw ioto tha fira, and tal4 ao r odraaa bat to taha a naw laaaa at thraa tioMO 1% if I kortkaro waa Iko root. Tkif kappanad aomo jraoro ago. Allor aaoM athar raoMrka, Mr llawat argad apao tha Cooi- ■iaaiaoara to oarafally eaoaidar tha aaaa of tha laaantry, an4 «id that thok aapaiotmaat provad tho ooaaoaiiy for a Caort t* ■lUodiflata opoo ii.noi ioioooaod kjr lalaad iaiaraata. Omi. Hows.'- Wo all faal and agraa with jfao that iwilkhn iMMl ho dooo to aeiilo ikia vaiod oaoatiao. Bao|a«^io Davlaa^ aad Jaaaa Hoarat. Baqairaa. a Dapotaliatt ■f imig)»m appakHad ao kokolf af iko Tooaolry, appaarod ko» ■. RiTCNio. — Soppaaiag ika eata af a farm ao wkiok af* I af root hava aMomalaiad. aad that farm ho aold ; do tk9 I ■noara goto tko propriotor, or ioto iko poakat uf tha paraao wk» iir uuMuwoMTM.— Uoaoraiijr wnoa a aoraiiaaa ia a f iaaa ■fao, a dadoatian b mada in tha anirdaat of tha priaa ai|aal to tfw aoMoat af Iha arroara : aad a remiaaioo of arroara, if aoy k» «odo, akaoM ho mada la tha taofiot, aa ha ia liabla for thooi. iBome farthor diacaaaidu laok placo io rafaraoeo to thia matiar. iOMpoiiag aaeh a aiaa ahoold ooear. Mr II. i. Coadall atatod *• k waaitr Rxttlhndtt ; Wa, tha aodaraignad Daiagata*, having agraad la tha aaeloaad raaoUtiooa. aipraaaiva of oar viawaoa iha Laad qnaation, whick wo faliy baliava ambody tha aaniimania of iha paopla who aaol ■a to aitand yoar lloaorabla (Toart, raapoctfally raqaaat that Yaor Eioailaneiaa will taka tbaa fata yoar maat aarnoal cooaidaratioa, aarf obtiga Yaar vary obadiant hambU ■arvanu. Bbmjamin DAviaa, Delagato for 1^1 I, (Jaaeawpaa, Tawotbi^ r K ZIM 28 BLLT, M. P. P. AMOua VIcDaNALD, Lac Si John I.obo, Lot 18 John McKaio Lot II Jambb Howatt, Lot tf JoNN Clabk, L(Ha ft. • Wm 8. McNBii.kJ^S4 Wm. M'Cmll. Lot SO Patbick Wtnns, 1^ SI RHiLir Lamb, I^i 48 AbTNUB llAMaAT, \m. If CoLiM McPmbb, lu>t 65 Donald McPadtbn. Lot Sf Jambb Mc«l«gaiM apfioiiKad on bti ^iiroC llMTMMUf of lliu laUnd, from varioat parta of Qaaana aod FktaooCooatiaa. aaa«nibiod at ih«((lob«lio(al iaCharloU«(ow«, Ml ibo availing ef Taaadaj, iha ICih ioai., tho rollowin| rtaol«. liMM waro ocJarad to bo prepared by • Commiilao appoin ippointad for Um porpoao. and waro •naninuaaly approvod of at a aabaaanaM Moatiag of tha Delagatoa, oa Woiinaadajr morning tbo Mtb i»- ikm poopio of thia Island cannot bat aipreaa ih«>ir diaaniiafaetioa tad diaappoiniinani at iha conraa takan by Iha <>orammont ie ••C aaai^tiog lo tha aitant they ahnuld, a fail enqoiry ralaiiva to IIm ooadiiioa of tho paopla of ibia hiand with roapaei lo th« LoooohoM tanara, bat rathar obatructinf tho anqairy, bv allow, ing two raambara of tha Cieculita Caoncil, and iho Colonial Boorotarj, who ara ail daaply intaraaiad in maintaining tho oloima of tha Propriatora , to prejadiea tho intaraata of tho poopio kf eonatantly atiandinf on tha Commia«ionera, and ndvooating boforo thom ncloaiveiy tho claim* of tha Propriotora: and tho Dologaioa ara of opinion that iho Governmant havo lortbor •kown their di«regard for the feelinfa and wiahaa of the paopln, with reapect to the enquiry in progroM, by not fally and denni- loly inalroclinii thn learned Counsel appninled on behalf of the loaaairy. to bring ill the circamataneea of their eondition baforo Um Rn^al Commisiionera. Sod. RtMoieed, That tha Halpgafea are firmly convinced thai Um qooaiion at iaaue b«tween lanJiord and tenant can never b« oottlod, in order lo secure the pence and .^onl^nlm«nt nf ihio ColiHiy, without n lhornughitive«li(iilinn into thn lillMa and claimo of Uia landholdfrs lo ihe Township liind« in this l^liind ; and Uioy ainnernly hope ihit Ihe ire it powers with which llor Ma« jooiv*s C«iminissionera are clothed will be used for the attainmool 8d. lietutvfii, Thnt as vutrifiant titnn Ins not h^en iillowed lo enable ihn people In iiMke known lh«*ir vi*>ws >4nil npiiiione to llor \lajf«ty*s Couiiiii«sionrr:ii tlie hikI (^ulltllissio^Hrs nre hero* by reap^ctfutly r^'iu^'tcd lu poatpnno ili«'ir nwarJ, until, at (ho ro-op«>ning of their 4'ourl in thi* Isluml, (he people iiny have ao opportunity lo unkn tli«-ir vi*>w« iiiori< i;r>npr.illy known, and thereliy |tive furiher information lo iIim (^>mtlll< ■or lo Her Mairaty's ('oniiiiistioners : and thnt the I'.diiora of the Examintr and hiandtr be requested to puklish aaid liaoo- lotiona. •th. Reuolvidt Thit Dnnjnmin Davies and Jnmea llowat, Eoqnirea, be a (Tnmmitteo to wad on Ilia K.acellency the Lioot. Governor aod tho Royal Commisaioners, to pr«?«ffnt the addreae, •ad uSor any forther oiplanaliotis th«y may doom proper, aod !• roport their procoodinga to tho Dolegatea. Sigaod on^bobalf ef Um Mooting. John lord. ChoinnoD. 254 THK LAND OOmCISSIOir. Ceai. How I. 'Mr Davim. I thifik lhi« 6rtt rMolatioa ttvflit 0«l u h«v« iMMn broudhl h«re; U i* a vol* nf went of oonAilane* Ml iIm (fovflrnmani, and aiTecii • m«ti«r frooi which w« d««ir« III kaap nntititly froe. It wnatd h« qait* prop«r to mnva aaoh r«aalation!i in iha l^fi^Utara. Ai r^giird* iha limw Ihif Como ■iiMKin mif mika ap its aw^rd. it it ancerfain. Wa hnva ae< ari nf par«on« Th# d that all piriimi who h< romplaiota in nfTar, ware at lih>rty tn cnma forward, ami thair griavancea ; and if anything hai baaa kept back, yo« have dona yoar^elvaa iha injuMica. Mr iamaa IIowat — The re«r>tuiina dooa certainly eoavof a oanaara opon tha (lorernment ; bat when tha l.fgiti.itare haa iathnrised thi« tinnnrahia Coart with r«traordin.iry power to lake intn con«idaration the aettUinent nf thii gmat pahiie r|aaa* lion, which hii4 nfilalnd ihe public laiml inr hulf a contarjr : and whan the Duke nf Nowrn^da ha« ctllad lh«i atienii>>n nf tha Government in the nere<«4iiy of roniailins the wi^ltH* nf tha paople ^r^nn, and i( hivinc ncglertpd lo do %o. uml (he people ihamaalve* havmf aprxiinlml «|eli>a^ >••!> ., ,,,.t ^i i.... ti^,,^, „ Commiaaiun tngiv the aime due conndaration. The oanauro ia moraly a preamble !•• ihe re«nlui"»n. Com ftWAV — Th« (7ourt will give rT»ry rrpr«^entalion loaching ihia qun^iinn due rnn4i(|<*rt(i' <,ltal I rorfur with what haa been n%id hv »iv rolU>nfu«'4 in rt'gtrl in |i r>f4oiit li)>en (iv-en by ihia Cuu't t«> irvixti^ile •>>l ili<* 4ul>|^ri4 rnnurRtiMl wiih ihij qaealion. Nnw wa il«*«ire In M«k wlnt hi« Iip«>ii omiittfd. You have bad (be opp<)rtjnilv ii )'>u omiU find to lav the quettion luifure ij« rhapi ■ol Inaa than 100 momnriaU on ^t file. Mr OAVita.— Your F.irfll.-nciea: It i* Irue you hive cnlleet- ad • vaat amount nf infonnatinn in reaped to the »tiiaiing differencea between landlord and lenant, bat ih.il triovnnre it pvraly one nf a private natara, and the aeitlement nf ihi« dilTer- •nea might havo h^cn rffiictod by an arr.mjrm'^nt between iho diaoanlinf po^vera without leaving it loynur aibitralionand wilhoet iha aid nf (tnvernmant interreronea.and independently nf n aperial law. Tha daiatataa are aware thnt pre4enliitinna h:ive been made (o joar hoaorabia Court in raapact to tha pablic claim oo land* 1 I'f Mi .' in LJll M W TUB LAND COmilflilOlf. t55 mo Urn baM'bf tli« pmpri«inr«. bat lh«y do not TmI Mevr* in tht •piaioo that privtia gafitivmaii ara iKa prnpar paraoni to pti Mfward elaima on ih« part nf tha pahlic. Yoar Ricallaaciaa ar* •war* that Mar \fajinied tn pri>«i»cu(««. In nor opinion tha pablio elaima againat tba proprietort Hhould htva bawn protaratad for by tb« Attiirnay (iiar.eral, or coma apacial otKoar deUgatad tharato by tha (iovf>rnrn»'nt I regrat tn (r««pa«a apon yoar ▼albabla time, hut I c aim a faw mtHnanta to lay baiora yoar beaorabia (?oart vvhat (ha Land qaA«(iiin ii. — It aroaa from tho fact of thx greai^r p«r( of tha land* of thii hlan Kapre* aaniativea of tha people. In the year lH5u iMHan to a.iy that yon houi^ht the Crown H;h»«. ••"•• '*••* frnitin ur •• ihn nroitriPtor of tho |«iUnd, and thai tha g^ntlenittn who niyle lhHrti«flvi>4 prriiMor4 ern hut lenanta. We hnva h>MrJ miii:li of tlm iH-lore frnfii Mcaira Cole*, C^nnpar, yoaraell and niher*. and Iru4t you will ho ii« brief na posiihle. IMr Oavib* — I •hill he tie con'Mie im potniblf, my Lord, bat ■( i« an iiiiporinnt multer •ntru^ted to iia hy the l}e\ft^Mf>a to aiplain to your hoo(>r.iliU (!ouil. nnd I wiili (u ahow tti.it there waa no politic tl ftMiiing piiiiiog in p i^otig tho nen^are which the adJreaa con' u <■*. The llele^ntMt w.ii>d with nniie'y tn aaa if tha (iovoraiiKMil iijtcndcJ ty pr'^ecu?** fyr 'h" p'jMir" in»#ri»ai in the Uanda of the Colony, and (hoy dnferrod Hiprea^ing an opinion on ih«* ba«:kwardne<««i of (ha (iovcrnmiint, until it became evident their intention waa to let the caa<* of the Land qoeatioo fo by default. Thii wai apparent to th^in when yoar Honor- abia Coart derlartrd on Thu«»d.ty laat (he Court would elooa to-mnrrnw. We then thought it high time to diicharge tha daty antratted (<^ na hy miking thn r(>preaentation« contained in tha addraea. Voar Rtcallenciaa, I atated that tha fp-«»t.Mopia of thia laland nhould nbiain control ovar iha GovofB' mtmt. {S§4 DUpmtck Ftb. t, 1831.) Tha Liaat. (i over nor of Iha day did oot carry oot iha racommandation of that Diapnteh ; iMMa arooa iho n«c«aaily of thii tionorable Court's appoiotoBanl mHk f^mr io do to ; and what caa yoar Kicallaociaa tbiok •f a govarnmant andar lach circa:iui«ncea. a(\ar inatitoiing thia CMirt by li anU ihu leonnia. Com. tiRAT ^uraly yoe have not heard the l>r theaa queationa. Mr f>AviBa. — We would not have inierfeieil were it not that «ro thnaght the claim to whiih the ra«uiaiiuoa refer had not boon proporly brought before you. CsiTi. !li7ct.«ik.— I aiK g rtd that we have had an opportunity to haar yoa. lion, mdwnrd Palmier hern prr^enled lu the Court a maMiga from ill* Ksrelloncy the Lirui. ftovorimr, to ihn I'lfert that tha raaoluiiona of the Oelegate* hud lipon |ir»a«iit«'d lu liiiii, and ha woold not receive tham,borau«H tliMy aniniadvfrtcd on the (aov> ortimenl: bat he aant thain to tha honorable Cuinmiaaiouari for tboir eooaidenttion. Com. Howe. — I inppoee we ought to receive le mpaaago from Hia Eieallenoy, hut I ioiiat that thn wtiole be withdrawn. Mr Davibs. — I am satiitied with the manner in which the hoa. CommiMionera appear to deaire to lake up thia quaaiioa, •nd wa ahall witlidraw the documenta preaanted to the Coait. Coon. Palmer wiahad to enter upon the file of tha Court an -otplanatlon by Mr Brace iitcwart, in rcferonca to tha caao of Caltaghar brooght bafora tha CommiMionara yeatarday avaning- Conn. THOMaoM protnatad againat thia document being pat •poo Iha racorda.aolaaa Mr dtowart woald •obmit to ba aiaminad r Tf rn LAND oominftov. m 4 Com. Ga AT.~W« raiiMi ■dradieal* apon iIim mm. m it ii Ml iWividaai C4M. Mr 8tttwan^i gncvane* ippcar* t« b« iImI tiM MM has bMa madt pablie. aad atill Mr Palaiar waal4 Maka k mar* pablie. Caan. llALiaoaroM alM proiMtad afaiaat anyihiag from Mr Bmea Btawart app«>aring oa iba racerda, aa ha had aol afraad !• Hbmil to iha roinmia«iua. Hoa. T. II. IIavilanDi jna., Mid that 99 !ha rapraMatativa af Sir Graham Montgomery, he wnald «i»j protaat agaiaal tka aspiaaatioa going apon iha Hlea of tha Coart. Coan. PALMaa aaid if he wraa not permiUud to placa it apoa Z*.i, tz v.ctfd —'■-• •" '• •« hia rioaina addreaa. TIm doeameat waa wiihdrawn, and iha Coart adjaarnad. FaiOAT, Sept. 38, 18M. COUN. lfALinURTON*(l CLOHINU BPEtCU. In riaing la addreaa yoar F.icallenciea, aAer m proirariad at infMtigation into iha varioaa lung pending, aod endle«a di«patM eoneeraing the land tanurea of thia l«land, an iaveaiigation ia which no p«-rittd aeeinf>d loo remote fur oar enquiries, and na topic Ino irivial or too privatn for oar srraiiny, I am reminded of aalaeky Ailaa of aid, enmpellfd to santain tiio world apna hit ahoaldara. Here, hnwAver, I tind unrurionftteiy that all rraam- blanca ends. Tor I foel hut loo nenatbljr how little I am biMaad with thut pownr.that entirely onfoonded; and I shall be in a position to provoi that ia ainiMt alt tha Colonios settled before the close of tha last aaaiary. the same slate of ihinga has eiisted. regarding whieh iha principal land nueaiinna have arisen in this (Colony, and that Ihara ia not a shadow uf an nicose for awking yoa to ooasider yoarselves justified, in dt^Nlmg with the right of iho ownera of {iroparty here, in a manner that would be as unprecedented, at I woald be unjustifiahle. If in solimitting to you some of tha ■lalariaU for yoar consideration, which, during the limited Eariod of my stay here, I have been able to collect, yoa will adiaa I am aara yoa will, that there are many deficieneiM, jroa mast atiribaia them to my inability to deal with ao vagaa, M aovel, and ao impurlant an inv«>siiK.itlon, rather than to anf lack af merit in a cause which I feel deservM an older and a battar advocate. Oa arriving hara five weeka ago, I waa aa m hSMD OOHMIHIOV. MMT •Utafw lo iIm ItUad, po«M«iog bat a vag«« id«« of it* biliary. aa4 ao«»cio«« af aw aitar iga iraaea of Iha lopiea, thti Imv* aa laag aagroaaad tka ■iieatioa of iha peopla ia this Coloajf . IIm dbpataa raapaciiag land 'aaaraa ia lhi« Island, camnianc#i with Ika firat aaulamaBt nfilia Culuny; bat I ahill show thai lliay aroaa TroM ao circa inataneaa p4ic«iMr in this UUid, b«| from an acrkiaatal ocearr«i»ra ia iisnlf of bat liiile niomant, that Cta aa apmrant importaiirtt ta what was itisewhara aittfrly larad and forguaaa. Wh» tha di^ruMion uT rn«ny qafMtioM ••w sahmidad tu yoar Eiri>lii'ncia4. ahoald hava b«faa reaarvad Ibr tbia Islaad, whaa oib>rr Cijoniaa mnii'arlj siiaaiad wn --* - • ^ ■ •% .. , J. C 4'. .m-*m-t *•*•! ^•••«..i*«i« •••«•> •»««• %%m «*W»M|>% •■%«« g|.WMl»« w« M..... . ■ > - - ^ .. . . ■pparaat to any who hata not iioJiinI tha history of ibeir Coloay. Tha reaaoo, however, ii prrA'Ctljr apparent. I thail* I lr«at, ba able, iftiiaa will permit ma, tu ahuw ihai a perfectly •Midental circaiostinee ia itaeli of bat liliie importance, waa tha aoarca of ail the di«patn« between the laad owners and tho losaata in this Colony. What a slrnnga le««(in it i« that ii«* partaal rasolts ofcan flaw from acts, thoathtlass and trivial ia |h« ajras uT iba aciora tbero«elve«, which, lif Unda, qaii r<^a s they ware rstber beiweeo th« Imperial (joverw> It aad iha Graalaaa, than between tha Uiter and (hair lala.— It is Uua, that tha diAcaliy of satiliag ihe lands, aa4 ka diaeasaioDs batwaoa the llooia Govarament and the propri«- |0f«, aicitad tha hopaa aad tha disconleat of ilia tenants; hat whaa thasa diacasaiooa ceased, and iha Home Government, by ■afloraoea or cooseat, acqoiaaead in tha tenure of lands ander |ba trrma of old granta that had aavar bean fulfilled, as was tha aaaa throagbcat tha rest of the coloaial empire, tha soorces of 4iiBord belwoaa proprietors and (aoaats satined to dia oat; ami iMra waa ap to 1810 tha sauia security fur the righia of property kfrv, aa waa alaawhara enjoyed by the granteea of the crowa. At that lima, l«uwe««f , a i^uutlcuian, '.vhj b.zn "i^ii^ir*^ h»f*wm fMT Etcalleoeiaa, and aa to whoaa cuodaci and eharaciar I naa4 a#ar aa comment, as thay mast ba aa palpable to year Rical- Ivaeiaa. aa thay hava loag beea to every one else, waa iastra- ■aatal inraaawing, and intensifying all the qaestiona that ha4 •far aiisted ia tha iaiaad batwaea laadlorda snd lenania. Aa hi baa claimed, sad appareaily deeervaa the title of •* tha rttbar of Kacheat,** it may be interestitig as wall a« instraotivOi \» raeall iha etrcamttaneas that indaced him to enter epon tha lltaarable earaar thai ha baa parsaed with saeh ahtiring xeaU Iff Coopar, it appaart, was agaot for Lord William Townaead ^$ ta ahoat 1830. Ha haa givea aa hia avidaaea; and from hir Cm laatimoay, aa wall aa that of other*, yoa may jadga aa la ^ haaaaiy aa agant. If there coald ba any qaaation aa to thia fffial, it haa baaa ramovad bv tha avidaaea of Mr Haviland, wha PMoae d ad him aa agaot. Wa fiad that whaa Mr Coopar had Maa ^aetad from hia ofioa aa agaal, ia eaaaaqaaaaa of hia a»* TVB LAUD OOMMIBtlOlI. ow« b«>Rrit. Ha (oaIi lo what appMf* !• Imv« b««« • Ubw af l«v«, ia whirh h«Hi«>«t]r waa bat a aaaoa^aty ooaaidaraiiaa. Hafiftg M wfll looked »(^ffr h'f own inlnraatt by aaerifietaf tlNiaa ««f iho pro|iri9lor who amplnyeil him, h« determiard tc •btaia rav«Ag« for hi« diamiaaal, by davoiiag hia Ifiaora lo looking aAar iho ini(^r«>«l4iplo at tha aipenta of lh« ru|hla at •arnari of |tr««|mriy : and ihaa Mr Toopar 6«caMi« m fHilrtol t Ha iMd *eo9rm uf iimr4 civnn Iniaea to lanaala, whpn ha waa ia tba aarvwo of l.«iri| W iIImri TKan Ih a|i|i>'ar iti<»«t o|ivreM«ive and unjual; and tha rinht Id giv«f Ua*'-^ l>«H7aiii^ a niont (|urationMhla iiiatler— tha loa«f« hn had |iv<-n, it wim plain, were ?uid; and the poupla h« had indur<>i| to rtine itiii« of the Kr •iia p.-iaaeU 60 ^nnra before, bad not b«'^n fuililtpd. 'I'ti'^ pro|irii'tnrii h.i«l no right to their Undfl, and ide t«>iifini<« !«•• ••iiligriuoii in pny itifir rvnl*. Witb Ule«e iiilrioiic i«I««n4 diMniii:; u|Mtn liini, Mr ('oiiper at onoa oomnienrisl .1 rru«.iJtf nt;tiii<>i tin* riijliiii nf prnprrly, ander tha ■atn«* uf KU hn imngined Tha mindii nf lh«* p<'>>;i' w>-r>' *n i>xri;i'i| niid mil tilled by ihn proa* peel uf <4, -^mi iiiilii.iry fofca wno alnioat r»qai*ile lo rooipfi tlir* i> r:iti«« It fultili lliuir ol»li|alion4. Thia ia ihn ntiiMi oi ihr mini i|ui-oi!)iii, that haa come licforn aa, aa app-'arn hy tlif* ••vkIi'ihm kC Mr riMi|M>r hiiiiiifllf. a« well a< of hia aaerev^nr in viVtrf, ,Mr Jlivii.inti. Siiicit 1H30, Mr ('uuper, aa app'-nra hy tht> jourtiuU ol' iIh> lliiU4e nf A«aembl)'i liaa bc«% anw^NrviriK in Iim •liorl* Karli«>ii r(>|ieaii>diy preanml u|M>n iha Home (jovrriiiiiMhl, and n4 i>ft«Mi «Ji<«'iwiird by th<'in, liiia been bma|lit up undrr noim» n<*w f<>riu, ai.d alwaM wilh the aania reaulli. i'lie h.iii h* ,d out liy \lr <'*>• per, and :igilnlora iif ilia aame elevatifd alamo. In lhi< ifn-mH, h " ^u|iporl u^.ami we ahall gat yna frei* laniN— we will diopoil th<< |>rnprietoia of their righto, aad focf e the llritiiih ((ovrrniiirnt to Im the meana of carrying j oat a «v«trm of ri>n(t«caiiv in vain diaown; and wa ' aliall all coom in for a aiinr** of the ii|Hiila." Thia haa bean tha bnaia. 00 wliirh all llie agilnlKOt in tliiM laland agaioat ihe righta ; of pr<'|N>riy, hun br^n « nrixi on. Aa to tho honeaty, or tho ei* pedinnc) of liii^ mode uf pui-tnluf**, ii i* atoi«<«»»aiy U* aigwa. what! innoerni pera«inff,wii>>lMve porrhaaed their landa in ihia la* laad fiom the heirt nf the originNl uranlcea, to bo robbed uf thaia for the henrlii of p«il.lical agifntora of Mr t'oopav'a claaa.itnd ihoir Miagaided followi*r4, in ord«*r that what a inemhar of tho F.i* aeaiive deoignatea openly in ihia t'oarl, ** tha good tiinea" maj aame; or in plain worda. th.it thero may ba a general apojiatioa, ia which poiiticiana and lh«tir MMpportera may ahai^t ia a pru|M>> ^ akion an diagnicefal, that we inav well ba aatounded that inoa aboald ba found in any Hriiiih colony, not only baaa anoagh to oaaca i fa it, bat aloo bold annagh lo avow laab aocialiat |»riMU THB LAiro oommmov. piM !• tlM prtMoca of • C»«rt eoii4«et«d by ih* ralwt of Btillih jwlia*. Th«y Im*« core* b«for« t«i, ami asked yo« i« bMooM Um ohmm of violating iho principiM of jaaiieo aiMi ih« rigkia tt Coportjr, in Ofdor lo aaiikry poraoaa. wIm hava talked th«ma«lv«t to a b« i«f, almoai, that -eoliaiion ia a pablie oeeaaaitjr; aa4 tkat Iha politinal agitation ao lung fumentod, will bn appaaaad by Um British tiovornnieni forgotting it« own dignity and aanan mt JMliea. tfiitl sacrificing thoso lights, which have avor boon baM Mcrad in every perl of the Knipire. The Crown hae conaente4 te the appointment of your Eicellenciea, as (!oroaiis«iooere, U ■djest the (iispates between Isndlurds snd lensnta, on jeat an4 •qnituhle prinnplee, **wilk a d>u rtgard to (As ritkti of ere- imitf i' anu in doinc so. the Ouwn eoatd have bai liltln Mppoacd. that yon would be called apon tu violate ihoae rights yen were iniended in protect ; siill less could it have anticipated. ihel a Coart eieaied under ihe aanction of law, ahould bo made •a inttiuiiient for subverting the very fuundationa of law, and ■nder the a«>lefiin mockery uf legal prncmlure he the ag<*nl uf iniqaitous spolisiiim. The owners of Isn4 in this Islsnd look with coiifidtrnce In y'inr F.irelleiM'ie's decision, and though ihey hav« little justice to hope for nt the liitnds of a Li'gialalare, that is returned by tfnanta, and panders in. snd iii0.«mes ihe pssstocn of Ihoo whuiii It repreiienlii, they feel ilii>y csn safely confide im Jadg- liu mine here fii^e from the in Hue nee which a pro* ongwd ('((astioo mest have had on the iiiiiid* uf sll, who have lived hfre in a political atmosphrre, in which the rights of properly become but too vngu*, and even the rales uf eqaiiy and eoiiiinon justice are loat sight of For my own pari, I havo every cnnfijiinee in your decision bring just snd fair. Tho nrupriiHurs hive come ihrnugh a seurching oideal; and yonr Eicellenci's hsve pronooiicnd, ihni though I'lis invesligstion hai been allowtfd lo «>ti»>nd b.tck to things that occurred over half a enniary ago, no iostaiire haa been piovcd of harshiiese or injea* lien in ihe irpsiinent of ihe lenanis by ilie owners uf land. Had many cssva of tyrMnnirnl and oppressive acts beun proved to fcawa A^.n^.f..j .; ^^ :77C, .;.«! wtfukt out, wiiii*s4 neceeaariiy ■riaing from aoinfihing in the relation uf landlord and tenant prcititar to thin Itland, have justified you in depriving all tho owners of properly here of their rights, becaose some nnworthy persons may hsve nbeiied those rights which the Isw sanetiona. A morigNgi»e has far more power to oppreee • needy mortgagor; bat would any one presume to srgae, ihst because there may bo •omo cases of essrting inortgsgees, all mortgages mast bo for- feitrd; or becsuae ci«^ditur« are soinetimea opprwasivo in their eomiuct, all Jebta niuat be cancelled. Yet anch ie the tendency of the argonienia uf the opposite side. Bui anf»rlttosiely fur thorn, thwre is nol even a shndow of an eicose fur applying tho ralo ihey woald lay down in this caae, even if such an eiecrablo trineiple were admisaihie. They have established no esaee of ardship; one of yoar Ctrellenciee. in an early atago af the pro- ooedinfs, sinted, that ao far the only parties who hsd any roaao« to complain appeared to be tho prtprieiora. What then eaa jootify or oicuao iho clanor for coofiacatioa thai haa foond its I I TBS LAVD OOMMIMUUI. 981 ■ II' If wy 99m» iaiu tliia CMrt f Wlikl eaa jutUff jumt CiccIUmim ia jMUiiif lu a fopmUkr or j that luiaht wiik •• ■■eh rwiMM b« nimi ia evarjr eivilisad coantry wn«ra ikara m proparty fur • praj, and ariiii>, how oppreo«ed tha proprialora have baan hy tha Lagi«lNlare, — huw, ftfiling to indaea tha Britiah fjovarnroeat to sanction an anjottifiible coorioeatioa of praparty und'T the form of e«cheal, or ihecnilection of quit renia, atteoiptiid by lodirtict mean* to pr* vent the prnprielora from eajoying the poMUfMion uf ihoae laiid>< which cuuld not be nnnfis- oalad,— how it h^a pagniHl Acta that virtaally plncnd thi« owner* of had at the mercy «if every ditlioneai or riTrartury tenant, bow when the propriniora in lime* of public ditirea^ iiUeially remitted for a tniie a poriion uf their ruiii«, tlin Legittlilurtt made aean their liberality .in eirane fur depriving tliuui of then righli, by plating a carrency Act that <|iri*«iors might eipnct, if the llritiah tioveruiiieni aaald bo wearmj into arquie*c«.'nce by th>t Irtiaiid Legi^laturi^— aa the latter n l being r.oiileiit with the |tiltance they hwd aominally left the pnipriKlnrit, cloMed tlimH couria iigmnnl litem, that are ofieti lu lh«> IraJrNinun, hihI tlio liiercliHnt : ami eii- daavored l«» pre»i>nt the rcrovtrry of rcnl, «xcu|il by ii iiinde of proceeding ihnl w^« no mIow iiuI cxp n-ive, a* lu reiidtsr it ia pioai ceani pnielicilly iiii^M><*) that i^fdiftrnitit, a mmin which m.ix mont olItMiiiivu to (hn liMi^nt, a riit^uinataiicH, bowever. )tiH{ily rniMpnn^itN*! lor by liir ii-win ueiw •.•«••>•• V lord and len.-int. which it cn.-ntej luid |ir« served. 'I'hero i« a long «erie«. I wnald rather comparo him to that p*«Mon df«rriU*'d ir. a well known work whnae baidfa wai 00 hwMvy tint tl ItDWfil liini l» lh« earth, and when I conaidor tho cnu«e my liMriM-U I'liend had to advor«te, and the abort* eomin^a of Iih cln tCa, | mn not tarpriiied that he h.-ia felt it Crra^in;; hfnvily u|iiin hitii. Aiiia, how«>ver, had l«t bear hia ar«l«-n aliino; Itiit, jiitl{iiii( froiii the vaat mitiunt of alatutical inforiiMliMii wliivh thi* !• nrnrd <'«un«el )><«inrday prr««'nled, I ihiiik tint li<- liiUHi li M> (t'ci'iv^U con«id<-rablfl aMist.incn Irom othrra. On iry \< .iciy iil.il*>, that I'waa only ret.tined ao Cnun«»M iifioi Y<><' llri>rii><«* .irrival in the Inland, and my eolloagu«!, Mr 'riiitii, wImmi h«i rnma here w.ia .1 alranicer to the n.iuiiiry, mi oon liim. Since that lime, dur« in|{ the I ixt I >ur \%i ••*'<. wit ii;iv«« b«'Vti iaci'*ii tiiily rnfn^ivl in oi;iiiiiiiiit;! iifiit m 1I4 .iimI li<|i,,^ iiiti*rview4 with Mi-I**];;!!***, and bad liul .1 li-A- |iaii:4 |.) |.i I, ri<'ii|)-r lli;it i- nh ol ||i««l'iinn- a»'l \\ lU liiv- 111 ..(.. f •'••'•, !: ;".. I ••1* j'lininjj in wiiiiti^ aiiy- ■ li lit iiiti : .iti.i iliu4 \M*' utiivitiil.ili'i* (!• tiripnneo i If l>;iriifii I 'nuiHfj r|trie> <>\ liM • i|>1ltt4, tttoU 1 li'Vf'W oflllf? .|Ur4« I it'iiit'"irf'ii<>iit iif l!iM ;ii!i) ili- |ti.-'tii iiiii«>. Il»' n)t|>«-.iM>il \\\ think It W.M .1 v««. ) ;r I? . rill ••'•.I \\ \v j4 i»v»'r iisil.ili-d : niid |«»«»r Mr. CoDp-.T •• nil • i:i r r 1 < iii-.iii ihi<4 i|rtainly Wiirlliv i>rt.'tii r!. ill. I It iim lie.Mi ii«iiiiiil«d nn ;tll handa that th« «r,uili.i4 iwiy I liiii|<« of lhi4 IhImkI in th't iiiNniier ia H'hirli lif V ttiT«! ..fiji;i lilv gr;inti>d, waa a i^n-nt ovii, .ind haa provtij iti)urt.>u- lo iIk* U, a inlfnata of lliii (\>l.ta ; of tin* jirr»«il I (■•,(>! n tor* ill M(i, uiiij; ihi- «• 1- • ti|)er wac Ml iba nnljr ona who agitated that qaralion ; mid llint many •llMf grnllemen haaidaa him — who havn i*crcpi««d liinh p«iai« lioaa in ihia coantry — have ihoaght it wMa<)uii« ruiimoirni on ih«>ir part at tiinf* to agit.tle the quraiion iif K»i h«>.«l. 'I hn ri*al «|uli**v«> iIkih f'>niM that liability f As to the juslira of F^tlit.ii, I m.iy in p.ii>iting ramaik, that the question wn* not roi lii.«*«i in nirre ** |Miliiiii^4t ntlifr tliiitj;*, went into a romp irntitr iit.-iioiit«'iit i>l ili>- r« IhIu*; viIh** < f lli« aoil« of tliii l^laiiil and dpn Itri'ioii, .uid .iI»o put in vrioua »tali4'ira in hIiow iIi.ii in iliim i en iter ri-tnrn ofHgrieullural prndurn for e-'.cli in wli.ilcirr iiiioii of'tlirtr (V lontea, no fair compariaon mucIi a* v%' m alN'nip'.fil ui Im* tii.iwn )frilMyf coold be iiiado. In this Cuttiny llntrr iini iin MiaiMilarliir*!! — no mincv — no miii'TaN, — nolhiii;; l.i \vlii« li liii> pt>oplii mn tarn their .ittcntion «-i«'i>piing t.t ngriculiural pur^nitA. To liih* ing only a fow turn llifir attrnlion. Thn populatmn here, ton, ia acatt4!reil. The pimplo nro not ronj^rojaioil tr in larj^a town*. a« in ■ome o| ttio iimgiiiiuriii;^ r(«i«ini*«-<4. in i^ovn Scotia, e. ^ , there m nt l iiiid po|MilII known agrirul- tare is not puraucd lo the ^3iM« eitent as it is in this tJohmy | and, therefore, as in olhor counlrins, siinilHrly ctrcuntstancM; so io I'rince Kdward Island, where the whole populntion devote their attention to the cultivation of the soil, the agriculiural pro- dacttcns mmt nrf:e«"ar!fy b* ii»"'«* "'•wndnni, in proportion loiho ■amber of inhabitants, than in a country wliRre a diversity of occopaiions are pursued. In a country en'iri-ly ugncuttural* more land in proportion will neressurily he brought under culti^ vation than in one where minea are worked, and wrhere lisherie* tr« earried on to any eilent, and where there are commercial aad manafactaring towns. I maintain, then, that from the ra- tarna famished year Cicetlenciea by the learned Coonael , lh« eoocloaioM and loferancaa attamptad <(o b« drawn from th«m jra«- t64 TBI LAMO oomumov. I«r4av tr«r« MrBir. I UM ia mj \mmi ntmrm hr ItM, aa^ m« MH ihMfc ia, «W«iaf tiM ■•■ibw •# vmmIs Mpg^ i« IdMm u llalirai li Lancabarg.aad proviag tbai a vMy larga aaaibar aClka iaiubiuatfl of iKnaa pUcM ara aaiiralj rwpieja^ la prnaacmiaj \km I'Mhariaa l.aoliiag ai ikta lalaad, wbara alatoat avety aMS b a farmar. I aay ao aacH caaipariaaa aa ilial atUaipi«4 la ka 4fa«a, caa lia drawn b«ilweaa iha neighbariag raloaM>a aarf ikb O'laajr ; and wa «hall feci ii to ba oar dalj la farawk yaar Ei> eallaaciaa ariih A«b«^ aiaiiatieal informalMNi aa tbaao poiaia. Wa baow that l*rini:« F^ward l«land liaa a *a»l MMi.K»..'a^ --^ f;^^ •ii iitacaa la caaiiv arrr«MiMa lr«>m Iha aea, and iha land f«aa> rally farlile. tklm h ** itii* rr«*u« why iha prodariinna of ika aail hara havo bt'sn piupMriHMithly, In iha luial area, groalsr ihaa ia (*apa llreina. Nova .^roiia or New llranawirk, whara Ihara ia mach rucky and wa«!% land. 1*ha learnad foanaai. Mr. Ilalibartua, nndf'avorcd lo ah4iw ikat ia diatricta in ihia lalaad whara iffaa«ilMilil iiMiarr« |>rrd«Mii mated, Ihn iacreaao ia popala- lioa baa bran fraler than la thuaa whvte ihrre waa a pradomi* IMflCa of frreholdi. Ili« ratcal.iiKtna w -ro bated a|«on iha ra« laraaof 1848. Takinft I'rincr) roanly. ha atilrd thai iha ia- ertaaa ia the firal Ji«iricl waa 41.) |)fi coni ; in tha aMnnd, Si 1-i; arid rriMii thtl infi-rrrd liial where there waa the |reat* eel naniber of leaMhulii tenure*, ihera -taa litf grnieal incraaaa ia the popalaliuii Nuw I huvn not had an opp«>rtanily of in* apaeling lhr pro«e iha banafit of ihi* . ,• old Irnarea. It wuatd Uke i lunf arga- meat and a grral inany tabular ratarna to denonctraiH that a inaa ia betlfr ull' whu pa) a Ci a year in reat, ihitu ha wlio doaa aol pay nn) thing Coun. llALiauR ron — I did not aifempi lo ah-iw that laaaa* holdara were in hellef nrruitklanrea than freehoiili*ra, bat ihat tha p«f -itunitt, oi if ih«*y l« tl '%n n|i|Mir- tanily, llnl IIm* (•(•••••d ■) to |iuirh.i«<* ihr fret- i«i.ii ol'iheir |iroperiir-ii. I ahrfU now tiU** u|> ihr Muhj"«'i \4i i| iho ve.ir 1^23. In (lie Joar- iiaU of the lliiaae of .\k«««iiihli • l' 1^25. |>.is*' 40, Mrs find that Mr. Hiewart, (.'hairm.in tif ili«« < miiiiiiiiim- of thn "naaa of Aa> aainkly, waiifd B|inn lli« I'k ■•lli-nry Lieut, (toirernor Hinith with an addreaa rnnrernniy ihit <|uil renta. Ilia F.trellcncy, in raply, w.ia pleaded to aay tUti hi- M.ia not in pnaaesaion uf any eommanieatiitn on that aubj>'Ct. but ho haodid him a docament which waa an eitract from a cnmtiianieatioa of l^ird HMthurat, to Iha efleet that, '• a« it appeared that tha cuilcctioa uf tha qait lania had n<d tti F.nr.iAnd, with the re« wkf titcjr had breii iilluv««'«| to HrrumMlaln." AKJin, it lh« iOlh |Nif « uf ihfl aaiiia Jouinal, iImto la • co|iy of an aittirraa trotn tii« llouae of A«afntod lo Hh Ks- eallcncy. alaimg the dilh-iihy i>t rotlrrting idf i|uii rrnia. «n4 pay ini( a lptn|Mirary rciiii*«Miii oT iIigim. In ihi* Journ.ila of \Hi9, «rii finti Ihai iKm IIii.Mv .iitiin MiMntKi d ilit* llj*>cl, iiid I'tpn n* v ^lr. !'• |t*>. I iiird iidI r«»N(l tl a|am.| la lh« Jourital* i>l l^Ao, p^fK 7. ilirr<> i^ thn r.i|>v ofa lieapjirh fiintt Sir tiiMtftfi* Muir.tx i)t4Br\ •rnur Uritly, m hiioMT- ledgiax rrc«*'|Tt «•! ih«i .\ii«lr«'«'« < i' l*«i'J, v%iii( h |iri> ■«! Tir a ra- miaetoii uf the itrrcMit il.itiii;t ih:ii h** waa '* prppatad tu ad vine ili« N|.ij'-«(v li ;irrt-|il n |))-riiiiinriit Kram •f £1000 per innuiii in Ik-u <•! -ii) lui'.li -r (Itiiiiuul on .t« ruuiit of arraata or accruiiif i|iii( riMiiH At \'ii'' ill t>l iIk- ■.mil* Jour- ■al, we find Ihit lh<* ||<K nn .i(ltir< •- d ilo' llntur tinvprn- ■Mill, dfclininji III |ra 111 XI*'' *• |-^ .iiiiiuin, llt«> iimouiit ii"iii.ind- ed in liau u|m>iv without teaching lb k\hrtl>« r iii».i> w m uiv ri'iiiii'«ion <*( ar- reara to iht > ar l!*2'.\. H I I III l-i tilt* <)\i r, i( Ml vuli'iit ihjil betwrrn |S.':{ tinj i>i'j:t. iho •!' ;i I r«'ii> iii»'d iiiirii Ih liome (iitvorotufiit w>uld linvo m ' v^ \>d of tie- £ looii pt^r nn- aam »n ii«'U ur^iroar* ami ar- niiii{( '^Uii wi.ta, ))ut the f:r:iiit waa neter iiiaU*?, lh«j )»rii|iuail wntt i. ( « ■.i|ilii(l wiili. i^nm. linwR — Ilo I (iiidi'r*! till v^'i lo -ly iliit ihcrn la U»«^«M«««tJ *^ .•• (^oan. IIkmmi.icv. — 'I'in-ri) i« no inn 4 i>i tint • (IVf 1 ili.ii I r an diact?vpr. I'ntJI. lloWK. — You ri.nl»'l|Ult TlMII iiig (Villi till lUi bl II .• I- M Cuu'i. Ila M a«l on (lot o|i|i.i ii«f ■>;• f I. >! •« t •- iinl •* i ' i fi lii'l y r I' 1: >,'■■ |< < • !•• ir I'l III V iiii'iil that III'* iir>*,«Mlili- • I •iif ■l":i !.■■ ill Il ii''i til «|r»|» I III h la '. h.it tlii'fo Would !>!• II 11 mt I • ! ti 1 I <|'it •• hm mil' «•< I hi- {Ti |iu«i'd I KiiiiiiulnliK' \s < V .1 I. >\ «• il If li .rt4 ui ih the i
  • -il. 'I'Iumi Im ataltii (urthir ih.it lor w.it di-4itou4 In in ri il li"' -aiio' .nlv :iii- 'agrou4 ifrciiH lo I*. Y, laUiid iia hud bi-cii niritri-d tt lloi OiiluiiMta 'I Nvvv iliu:i<«\virk Cum. lluvvK — Krum the worJa " i« irii.itted " yon argun ti'tal nif TtlrX II. pMt|j the w*H a«lir| Ihail •et At (I 266 THi LAND romrmHioN iMl • f www wcMiU iali« pi tea ^lic««Ttr iIm prDpoaal af th« BiMiab Uovsramonl w«« nrr^pitNl f C«Wi. llBRBt.it.v. — Y«a . bat noi btrforo, Tl*"!! I^d Ciada rieli i|o«^ oa to Mala hn«v it wnal4 tp^y i** I'rmrM KilwanI la- I«mI. lt'< Jam not mt — I «*iii »|*p'v H iiiiini«li itf-ly, — bat if aa tha »«ni« i«*fma •• in Nova •*« iii an«l \^m llfQii«v. ick. ha mim^.A havo dir^rlril Ilia (tuvaiavf to M«a« a nrnrlam«iir ant p'ochmttion iMumI hara tamMliii^ »ny portion uf thaaa arreara ' Cuaa llnfiaLKT. — Nn. |lann|; itMi first two vnra ih(>)r wara to t*a rr |r» ma bl«i at 15 jaara* parrha«a. dan t lit*! »<>it twa vania at I ** «*ara' parrhaae, and aftf^^wrard* t< 20 y< :«r»' |>Michaaa. Tka chilli In lit* iiait l(f«ni« waa la rt.'»ita relri-a|t<'ctivaly and proaprcii«f>h at iHw leratimilKWi of iha ritaiinf i^rceni^au am- Dudiad Id II ii*to- IV. e. 10,) but thatirrara mutv up lo iha iioia wbaa Iha prop«»ard plan ah«*ald cnina Hiio np«>ritinn w<*r« to b« remitted. Tit*- it-a^iifd t*oan«i>l arKM«d )r«taida)r linl lliai vafjf daapalrli whtrh pr ■}>')«4d a coiiHiiat a of arraara. \« I unii(.r«lu«^ hiin. h« (-nn.i'lrrc d that from iha tiina af th*« (*«'ng p«npi»aad aud otr«rud, a ramiaai'ta took placa \»ith«i>. 4 t ciiinitiutalion. Coan llAkiavRToif. — The prnp>«ieioii wai lo rnaeadaa rariaia riglit lu the prnprii>l <4uit tent ; iltcrrrori* lo c«>inina*e arnald hatra baao anlarnrable in ihe (invi^riiin^ni; and, rriui»iii<>n n( arrnan waa iire«|N'rMVn of r iininartiKin. In iha uthT I'nloniea thai cofnmat4iiun wa* Tor futuri (|uit rrnia. C) Com. Howe. — In .Ni>vit S«p«*ara ou aach proclaiiialiun w.ia ueutsl m iiti« ('(•iony. t^oan ilcnai.KT.— Willi hia bei'O ar^ard by tha taara«4 ('naa«*'l o-i ihr utbtT 4h!m i« I'lat iiiMui«di«lely an^r the propoaal wia made, iirt-ar* weiv ruiiiillfd irrnopective of a coiniouialioa. Tbtt dr4|Mlrli ii«t.ir, lntwfwr, runlr ulii'la »ur.h o|ip«iaMiiin— ^f tha iearnid <'ouii«i'l I tk*< tint |i>itiii.in .la I tt'itt .\vi or document re«i>n n«Te«««rjr, or allud*^ lo in iha D'**. ti'la I • fr lli*< ifriiia '♦ rflro-pfitiifrly" and ** pro«prriively." 'nl«a« '*re«ivr." reblt-a lunrrrara. I cannot a«>ii wlial ihtiwurd r€lrotp€ilirtlti can mean ; for I can attach no olh«*r meaning lo It. I aideMland the ilr«uatrh to I'lpreaa thia idfa — " If yoa— pinpriuiora — do not cuinuly with ihc •orma prnpoaad lo yoa, whao tha Act ••iptraa you will be in tha •auia pomtion in which yoa wera bcf>»ra it came into operation. If yoa do not avail foar> anivea of ihia opportunity, old cl «ima will reviva afaio." ifnlaat thai nit^aning be taken froin tha word " ratruapactively** I do not •ea what meaning it haa ia tha conoactioo ia which it aUada. A« to tha argamaai liiat thaaa Qait raala wara ramittad wiiboat f!~ T'^T!T^KWrwp?SW3WWW|5W:' TUB LAKD COVMIftVlON. 2«7 fartk«ev r0ncid*>r«(inn whrn iIm pmpmmti war* inada, I nhall «■• dtmrnmt in shaw ynar K.irrllrnciM ih«l ihfiv w<>r« (o lie redeainsd b«ror«» iha ri|iir!iiin« of ih«i 5 jr»>iiM. Iir Q«il Ki*nt« lM*r' IV r 17 ) Now if ihit iiirrn |iro|»r M.ijf^iy in irmit iiia rUim. Thia prnl artuui hoih on ili«* part of iho pmpfi^lora ;ini|uiriKi hrf>irt« n rnnti^'oon wn«i<| laka plarfl. If ili« «ii»w of lint l«'4in«7«< i|u«>nl pririmn uflho daa|Mtrli wliirh I hnvmol i iMd linwrviMivflv I:.i4 noi ri>f<>r«nco lu arrt-ara ni •Miitnah •!, n|» h lorti (inilfrirh coiumenla aa I havo alrruly »iai>tl, itim I «n> ii i<« an •ulinurdtmry doe* •moat lo eoiMH IVkih ;i ^.n^Mrjk ol" r'l.ti.*. ■!'.> my inmd,huw> *vi*r, il la aa rli-ar •!• aity i|f|Mirli iMimiiMy r.in tm. In iIip Jour> ■a la for IM33. ixgo lilt, w<« li.ivo lli>- \ii*\« iikm l>v lhoihi.ii llouaPOl A*»> Ki'ilt , lii n*«|>rc( lo t rriiii«<|>iii iil llir4i' (•• 1I4 TIlS lloo«o addrfvapu ili** Kiin tii iti »n )h« old Ijind Am«'« mI *ii-i. • i.|iimiiI|)ik iIii« follrni m <•! (|uit r«>iitt. If ihu iipw An MiMti-di ii* '} r iiliwi'd, ilicrt i)i)« |>l.iii<« of Lord (jodmcli for a ri arird upon at ull. it WituiU lot p«'«tpiii««i« «iiu iiK «•• >;i|i.iMii m \* tai.'iiiiiDunf to ao aciyalrf*iniM4il I ili-n-l^, on Aliir*iilhe leariD'd I'ouiianl trlird »<• oioIoimiii^ Iih iiv%ii vi pilrli ufLord (loiltrirh. Ik' rcij \Nii.il \« i* Miiinl |iv Mr Spritr- i'Uill«t:iiiri-4 it a; ftriin tO man to llti4 .ir-rt— •• l'i»d» r lln-^o rii lh«ir l.oidiihip<« ill il ;ill null 10 mriMr :il iIm* p* rioil wli<r ili«* (li-^p itrli «'l 27ili JlllUlr^, i*«:t;i. 1 t.ika 11 lh.it Mr Hp«;uriimi i« invr-ly -pf 1U1114 <>\ ili.- vif.v \vln«"li lia lake* o( Lord caao about Iho ubinduniiient of th« tr- rMrtofQnit rents f Conn. llBifsLBT —It wo«ld appeBr from it that in hia opinio* •u: e: Act, ing, lion. Col view tlkOB lo« TUX LAND OOMlf lanOM. U «M Um iattaiioB of Lord Godarich to raniit arrMra af Q«il raaia. If I andaraund nghiiy iIm vmw ukaa bjr tha lloaaa af Aaaaasbly it i* ihia — ** Tha pro|»rial0rt hava firaaaad apoa iIm laaaaia all ihair ciaitiM. and wa hava a rtfhl to hold tktm to A atf let legal acroant in thn mattor of iba arraars of Qait raata* Wa bava a right lo bind them to iheir owa agraemanl.** Ara w« M( laihar to contider that lettar of Hpaarman't aa wrrittaa is aaawar to in aitpliralion made bv Mr Young fur the propiioiora f Will it be eonlanJed that ihit letter it to t>a laliea aaa recaipl from the King'e Treaaary for a portion of tha (iait reota * Com. Ki rcHiB. —HuMT did thai letter fiod ita way to thia Coioay ' Coan IIb^ilbv.— It waa mbI from the Colonial Uffica, Lo»- doa.aa foiming part uf a curreapondeoce Mrhich had taken plaea batwaen that Deparimenl and Mr iteorgc K. Yuong lelaliva t« the amviidmnnl |>i(>p«>Md by l^id (fudericli for the comiaulatioB af tha Hail Keota. In I.nrd <aka of the claim of the TroiKieiori to ba r«« liavad fruni (^uit lUota " rr1ro$putiv*ltf •• well aa proipteliwt' /y by tha payiiit>ot at aii) time within the firal period of (tAa,a y** ' *, and wiiliiii the apcund periiNl of uiKhtoMn yeara of thair a il (iait Kanlat" uhich •lioMra that he caniidered tha nr*- Eriator* were bound to relieve ihemnelvca of arreara of Qail laeu by aomn cummutatiuo. *' You will aea" ba add*. " that 1 hava conaenled no thr part of IIh Vfajeaty'a (lovernment to ao- capt tha aiith year'a tai a« an inatalment of the commatatios which ll>e l*r(»|irielur will lierraOer have lo piy*" It waa ia> taadad that tha Land Ai^ca^meni Actihouldba inoperalioo oaij for a period of five yrara. Com (iKAT.— I)*>e« It appear that l^rdCioderich accepted of that year** lax aa a par' of the roiiiuiuiatiun ? Coun. IlKNaLKT —It would npprar that lia waa willing lodo ••■ »»««»»<»'ant III! iKh •>•>«! ve, aa roatem- •Ui Wll «cv.WH«. • > %t ■<•««• i«. iuf A of the year, it midi* « an year** tai imtca plated by tlia frnntrr* of ilio Act : and during that period they had an opportonity Nir<»rti>'d them lo ronmiule. Coan II \i.iBUH r<>N. -We con:rnd (hat tha propririora had thai appnriuniiy ••xiitiii'il iu them m every aubaequrnt year ; Iha aaiiir rule i«pi>li>-i« {f) Coun. IlKNf L» V. — I liai view of tho matlrr ia adt'tfrae to tha term* ul (h«t (^lutuie it««-!l. Com. (iRAV — I wixh to direct your altenlinn particularly lo (I'll de^pili'h ; — 'I li*' IIiii|h|i nt if it would piy ClUHO aiu.ually ia lieu <loraMiov< rniiicnt pat^rd tho l..-iiid Aiiitr'ainrnt Act, nfirr which ilio lliMiiHoked upoa < i I T W^\ ' f < ? > ^ K ^ TBI LAND oomniBiov; iIm Laad lai A«l •• af tv* ytar** 4«ra*<«ii ; and gava vha fi*- prtalara iIm apiia* of eaaimating at tha omi afiva jraara; I (hiak UmI «a aceaaac af (Im tai luivinf baan ii|i m a4 for ail yaara ui* aCaa4 afiva, ha caaaaaiH to allaw ika laa af tha atith yaar M Caa a part of thair oaiiiinaiaiH»a. An4, yoar F.ir4»llanciM, I liava ibia i« tha firat tima ihia da«pateh haa baaa broaght ««• 4ar jaar natica. Com. Gka v.— Yaa ;aadl a vary imparlaat aaa it ia loo ; road aa farthar to tha >erond qaasiion— Caaa. l**N«LKr. — In ra^ard to tha aarnod qaMiinn raiiiad i« inia d««patRii hajioMoa la tav, — I hair i^tu«iM|M u«'ciaion ra oaolainad in Mr Sna4rnian*« latter iT iha lOih Marrh. Iiat Mr Yoanf. having in hii latter of lh« 4ih A|iril rnnlruveriod ilmt da> cirion. I ihou|hi it unn«iraM«ry ?o a«liniii hi« arKumrnt* for ihair l,4ird«hi|ic* fiunaitiarNiitin Itrfura iHkinji N»y fii<'«l ••(•>|*« in lhi« mat' tar, yoa mtiII u* «erva frnin Mr i|iiniiMi winch iliry (miI pri>vinu*ly aiprea«rd. la ihia viavv I enliinly a||ia»*, imiU )(iu will ihrrfrura conaid<«r thn daciaion rtMiiamed iii Mr S|>«>Ntiiia(i'a l«>iit'i of iho 19th ^lairh l.iat n« a rula fur \nur guiJem* in (hi* mailer. Com. liii%vB. — I'hat aelllra iliat |iuinl, I think. Coun. IlKNaLKT. — i hfi whula iiiHiier i oimrttrd with iha ar- rears of Ciuii Kcnia haa iinw b^en trouglit un«tt*r ihn n««ltra uf Voar V'.tr li'iiri«ni ; and Mhil"t «%a CHiilrritl ihfty nre aIiII dun. wa leave lln* l^M.^iion with coi.fiilrncn in Y'^ur Kici-llfrriifa' Innde, tu r«>iii« In •'Of h a dffruiun runcariiifg ham na in )U'jr wttdum you nhail «!• • iii prn)ii«r. Com. liiiwi:. — XnKuming ihal the Land Ini Am ^vna auhali- laled for ihc (iu:t Uenl«, ia (here any likclihoud uf ilut Act be- ing rriifalrd.' Cuun. llcNaLBV. — It haa barn in fnrca r>r 30 ye.ira. Com. Ilowr. — la ita euniinamca likely lu bMrnmo tha aaltlad policy if ilin Culonv f Couit |lr^«i.»v. — I'nJiahly it may . I 'till llliWK — l.«*t lilt* lU'lt *<*ut nii.-iilMMi lu !•• I ! Ch ol iltfi »ul>)frt ; — >'up|iniiip.iii«on uf alNli«iica luitMttg iiVfr tiiH pt'rixd. it np|ieari« lli** |.i*aif ilm (^uit Krnta aalj ttiii^ «, ie ihs Fishery Ilc4**rvea. Tha learned a« linn ; hat I think Mr. I'nlmrr par|MMes '.akiiig it ap. Tha Qaeation on tha tiahary Keacrvne Nri4o« from tha worda af tha iiriginal grant*, which ara of two elttara. (Jnarnal 1859) The first claaa i« thaa wnidad ** And forlhar aavin| aad raaaria« fur tha diapuaal of Ilia Majeatjr, IIm llaira vinf a3 li. w, w^ (mi frMB Hicli watar, oa ika mhi tf Iraol mt Ismi kmtthj fraatad t* araet atagaa aa4 ailMr ••- > BatWiafi lor aarryiog on iba Fiaharjr.*' Tha aaoMsd alHB raaibaa; — *' Aad farihar aaviag and raaanriaf a Praa likartf toali Hia Majaaty'a Sabjneta, o? earryiag o« a Fraa FiaUry •r Fiahariaa oa aaj part or part* of the Cotat of aai4 TowaahM, aad ofareciing^itagM and oth^r neceMary Duildinn, Tor ibo aaid FiilMr/ ov Fiabarics wiihia Um dUtaneo of 500 feat frooa kigli watar mark*** Ke^^ciins ilit* fir«t uf theao, it ia o«r opiaioa iImI tha aoil if reaervM HhnoluK^ly fur iha Crowa ; aod raapaot* lag tha laeond thai lh« a«H vf ih*> aoil it merely f tven op to tte oroorWilnra nnlil unv nf Ili4 Mnjoclv'a aahieeta reoairo it fora Fiahery. Coon. HALiBURToir.'UiHt'fr the grants wa hava a right. CooQ. IIbnilkt — -\Vh.it righi 1 bo yoo aay both tho f»- ■orvationa are alike ? Coan. llALiauRToiff. — Yei. Coan. Palmer -—The firat groand wa tnka ia that iho Or- dar in Council ought to bo obcyeii, ihat ia, that merely an eaaa> OMOt oaght lo have be«>n reaerved in each grant according to tho original ord«:r of 8th nf July 1767, which read* thus : — ** That in nrdrr in nrotiinto iind enroarsf e the Fiaheriea for ' which mnny p ^ oi ihi-« Ulaml ar«> <:on«c>ii«iitly aitaated, ihero * bo a chaie i i;r;int of esirli T •^vmhip that bulla upnn ibo * aaa ihurn cunixining a reA-'ivHlion of liherty lo nil llfr Majea- * ly'a aoitjeci!! in general, of carrying on a Tee fiahery on tha * eoaals oflhn paid Township and of erectirtf; aingea nnd oiKor * necea^nrv huildiiig-i tor untd liahury. within w dialanceuf 600 foot * from high wnti^r innrk " tnOLY. — That ihe noil itaelf pia^ed in ihe granteea even ondfr tho wording of ih>« rtcoptiDn, tiik|ri'4 ihn whole grant together. And Sdlt. — That tho l.ipfm of time, »t all evenii would now bar the (?ruwn, because n giant of tho r«:aerve« uiuat row ba presQincd. Goon. Thomson. — Po yoo advance that as a legal view T fnatf P« f MV« — .f «|o. Coon. IIbnslkt.— I diflfer entirely fronn the learned Coonaal oa this point, and contend that ilii' anil 14 ahanlutely reserved ia Iba Crown. Still I moat give credit to my frienda on the other aide for tha holdneas with which th«>y e\pres« their views ia reference in this point, and in facing ao many ifgnl noihoritioo. Com. llowB. — The point of moat intereat, I think, is this — •Bpooaing yoo had a legal claim, what would yon do wiih it t 1.000, lie !v«Ltr. — lam h^und 10 •<«>thli«h ihe rUim Ural, Cora. K ITCH IB. — Almost all the people of this Island ihiak theaa reaerves should go into private occupancy. Coia. HoWB. — Sapposa you prove your claim to-morrow, tha ohaocea are that thia Commiasion will decide upon establiahiaf tha rights of tenants to these reserves, and thaa caaaa tbaaa la aaaa aa rapidly as possible, ioto private occupanoiaa. Yal, I ihiak this woald ba fair groaod for yoarsalf aed Mr ThoaMoa » laki ; m., that tbaaa rcacrvaa wara seixad apoo aad niaapptiM w \ I ' I rV II , '. 1 N„ I > I } thai • hfff* ravtsM wm nimi tnm Ums ; Mi, ika «• whitk Um pfoprielort obUiii«4 from pr o yrty »Hiolk llMy 4i4 Mt owa, oagbi to b« tokM aiMl Alioivad to go a po^ ■•■I fcr otokM wImoIi thoy rooUy did not owo. Cooo. HsMSLBV.— nMpoettng tho Fiahorj roaorvoo I Moy mto I did not ooiDO horo wuh any pocoli^r viowi of my own. No doobt tho viowt of iho majorily of tho depataliona frooa tho toMOlry load to that point. I baliovo it ia thoir doairo ibal tboy alwold bo morgod ioio iho proportioa uf tbooo pottioo who aovr ooMpy ikofli. (At thio jonctnro, and aftor an intarehango of aentimoota, H woa agrood that tho romaindar of tho diacaaaion on tho Fithory rooonrao and aom« othor aobjacta bo handod in to tho Coinmia- aion ia writing.] Coon. HiNaLBT eontinoaa — Yoor Eicelloncioa will havo an opportanity of raading tho 900 motnuriala nuw on tho filaa of tho Cfoort. My rriend Mr Thoinaon will toon go into tho aubject of Ibo Original granta. Aa to tho ovidaiico taken bofore yoor Ci- eollonciea concerning the valao of Innd, tho learned Coonaol op> poaito appiohenda that the vi!«W!i of tho tenant* nri that point will bo an improper gnido : and with equal propriety wa may aay that the viewa of tho pruprietnm on the aame point will bo aa ■aaafe goido, for they ero ;iii much intorentt'd im the one hand, aa tho tenanta are on the udicr. If — i«a Mr llnliburtnn hii atat* ad— 'the tenanta are reully alile In make a living tiff* their farnia, and pay their renta off them alao, I can only any that from ro- apooiable men rrmii one end uf thi« Island to the other, the geo- oral eipreaaion nf opinion liia been (n the contrary. It ia not aa if one or two hiid aiid ao, but your F.icellenrifa know that ia tho aenliment in general, and you havo hvnrd it oipn'aaed by very ifltelligant men. For my own pur* I muiit nay, no far aa my own aiperience eiirndit, it in very ilifriculi for a lenniit to do ao ualeaa there be iiomeihing pcruliiir in thopiia.-iiiun of a iiian*ii fHrm, very few can do it. It inov h« true — na sImIhiI hv Mr lli«vili.»fn«»— ?»«3t fat mora m:iy ni>t carry on ih«*ir operatiomi on n proper bnaia ; bat in fcry many instances I would aak — Where ia riianare to bo obtained? It haa not been ahown thnt Iho proprieioia render tonania any ai9i«i;ince or even enrounigement in procuring that article indiopunxable to aucreMnful firming. 1 nm pHfxUiided that yoor Cicelloiiciea muat h-ive iienn that it ia impoadihio fur ten- anta generally to make a living oCt their fiirma, and pay their rent oflT them nion. Ag'iin )oa will sco lh.it pn>|Miulora bnae their calculatiuna on 20 years' purchase, hut I think, even tak- ing the atateroenta of the proprietors ihemsclvea, you would not consider that a fa ir purchase. 'I'here ia a consulerable ili^cr- aoeo between the rent rolls of proprioturs, and the suma which tboy aeioallv receive. Again tho expense attendant upon tha collection of their reota must be Uiken into accooot. And tak- ing theao thinga into connideration, I think yoor Ricellenciei would at the Tory high, at figure, lake meroly the reanlt aftor theao dodactioaa and not tho tent roll, at 20 yeara* parchaao, aa TBS LAVD fiirtk«r apM iIim f«te«. Aa Mr Ik* wtiJf li— af mImt Itpira ^MtlMMi, I ahall mtm git« way %ui kava «ri«lilkaLaa4 OOUmiL THOMMIl't OUMINO IFUOII. If *a«r Eaaaliaw c i— plaaaa:— la rafaraaaa la iIm qaaatiaa braagiii a«4ar ika aatioa of yaar BieaiUaciaa, I ramaik iliai il ia aaa af vaai iiapavtaaca, aai only to Priaca U«rar4 I«laa4, bat •Im» to iM wiMla Coloaial Gavat aoMnl af Graai Brilaia. Il ia ■•■I impanaal thai ibata sboaM nat im TwimU u c=; !!*H^ Pra«ii*ea dMaaiitfartioa m aiirania aad ganara I •• tllai wkicli kaa aiMlad ia thia Colnnjr fur m«ny yaar* fiaal Thia 4i««tia- lactioii h«a aiiaiad ia ihi« UUim] fur « Iimi| lami of jraara, aalaaa IIm maat of ««idaiic« farnivhod )ro«r K«e«lia«eiaa. hatbaaa, fraai bag tania^ to and, aniraa ; ih«r«(«»r«, admitling ita trailifal» M»a,iha irapiwiantdaijr of adopiing««rlini«aaar«iaaawill load la iHa rtmnval ll«Mei«« When I cain« to f*. K. I«land. I eamo, I najr My, an enuro airiinfui. nnd nf*«w viand h^fatm yoar Rical- iaaci* « aa aach ; and, •iitca my arrival I h«va aa( bad any niaaaa mf ' jiing ^ri|aaiMi(>d wilh tlia rondil on of ihia ('olooy,oicapl jadginf '>' it li> III* frrling «?ihii>iicd. and aia'Tmanta mada by ih« dilfort^n' panirawbo fniiii iihik to tiin«* tnva appoara4 bafofo y«i«r Karf>l!«iiri«a: and ih^M hj«va amfurmiy l«otifiad againtl lint rvil wnrking of iii« prn|irin*ry ayatrin ••iialing in thia Colony. I would htv« lM>at gla«ii o|»ftn. Ii'illi Mr. llHn>lf>y and I hava boon lit much tKTuiiiml in iin«M«iipg inffuirio^ uf -Il tl<*«rripiinna from ditfarant purlK?*, !tnd in in«|ireiing iiM'niuriila Iti \tm brought ander ilin iiiMicn of )«*or KtCMllenrifa.andirtoiln'r r«'«|i^ria,— onr linirt haa been no l.ik'*ii op .irith llir^Mlhiiijalhnt woh'tvn not had Ssfit:-:-* •••"- •« nr»»i«r«f« and arr infn .irgiiiruMila in |i>raant bo« foro your K«ri>llfn(!ic4 ihiaday; ihffrefira I r<*nl Ihnt I a«n not la a poaition I* ilo tiint ju«lic-a eao rot only havo no eflnol, ut b'^forn ono wliorn fiiluira of thn advocatn miII liri.ig no ia* jary un ilmcauaa wliirh iin hio M|ioo«nd. I feal that whatovor May hava boon tli«* d«.H'*ir>ncea of aithor Mr. Ilenaloy or myaalf daring ihe eoui a« of ilii4 invratigalion, that tha eananqnanea af Ibaaa fjilafoa will not ha vtaiiad apoa onr ciienta Whoa yoar Bieallaneina mtarn to voar homM. I foal aaanrvdt thai with tha flatialieal laforoMliaa which yoa poacaaa, and Iba vaat aaaibar !l i : r 1 ' ' \\ ■ : ! li ( 1 ' 1 1 '. |:||r -^j, • V » THK LAND COMMIMION. 279 jf aainm't j^^v r«taia — wliieli ••fM all t« Mv* bMS tmi, k«l ail o^ wbteii it waa ^hraiealljr imptisiib^a for aa to aiamiaa ^ xtkm, iMwatar , yo«r Cieallaociaa bwfe ovar Ihaaa aUliaiiM «a4 ■aoiOfMU. aad aihaail iImm eoalcnia, joa will b« aoabtad la arfiva ai *tteh a conelMioa aa will da jaaiica t«t all partiaa. I oMj aiaif, laa, thai it waa qaiia oal of our powar lo obtaia tiMt amwaai iif atatiatieal ialormatuw which wn ihoald ha«» Iai4 balara ymmt Kifalleanea. Oar elianla ara niaa aeali«r«d li«ra a«d thara ov*>r tba whola aarfaca of ihaenanlri, and many af Ihaaa da aol rajaf Iha advantaga of a |oad edaralioM, and aa, MtrwMi'tom. Tbaaa may, it n irae, poaa«M aa abaliaci rifM la aatar iaia tba pablie uflieat ol thia Culetty fur tha pur|KMa of praearing aaeaaaary papvra.bat, avaa •a|ipociiig ihoy had Iha rigbt, Ihajr wuald aearealy hava knowa into which (•tficaa la iMva gaaa la oblaia naccMary docamanla. Dai tha ca advftfae to the i luaa of our clirnta In iba MtutHtica ptt aentcd yaalerdajr by tim C-uunael un tha opiHiiile aid**, iht'rtf may ur may oot ha roniained rorreet iiifurnintiun ; but, b»i ilii» a« it iiiayt there la not iha leaat doubt about lli«>ni bisiiig lb«i r»»uU itf both labor and intalligance. Wbellier ih«*ae aiaiiatir.a be corrfci ur otbarwiaa, ia not fur nie to aay. A« tbey were not preaenled la evidence, aa I inrntiiMied yeaiRrUiy abnubl have been dune. 1 am not now in a poaition to qui'aiiou iheir curncliica*. I iiiHy alate, howfivfr, that I luvn bwen infonnud by a Kmil'-uiNii i|uita aa coinpclfnl to prepaiti audi relurnn iia ibe K»<.iiiUiiii*n who famiahed ihn oim.Mii* T. -^i - h r!..: i:«;;...^, :...a unoio yaar Eicelb'uriea yeatfiday, that iliey were ruokaJ up fui iIm aceaaioa. I woald not any auon my ov^n r«;»piiiii>iliilit>, but had wa received Ihem a« evitifncf \m> iniflit li, I'l.imirK* iIumii, iiikI .laci-ri.iiii lutw f.u ibft Inve ■ ncartn;; yp.'in •.;«: •iU)*;;.,,, muiIi-i ciini«rialiiiu. ildii limy baan givfn in b> wiiiM*«.a<*a on lli.- aliind. »%•• iniKbi have put aoma aearrhoif <|Ufi>iiiH)4 i.i Ummm %urb r* iln-^f — •• WIkmi did yoa rblain ibn MUtiaiir il mforiii iiiuu .* Ifnw ilij y„u arnva at yoar cuncluainna .' ArM i|ih ai,ni*tn:a aulb. niic * llava yoa iiiada allowai.r.,a for iiihi .k.?a ? i-ir It i* « amcuU* ibin^ that Iha eoarae «%birb I hive j.im mumiuuml wu* not pur«u«d by tha app'Mila Coui.aal ; ii m raih.r ainjjul.,r ibat lliat wbiih ^buuld ba«« ba«« u.«J »m an evidence w.ia ifiip!(.ved a* lui nr||umenl. Ny laarnrd friend aitempud lo ahuw fiuin Hn aiatiaiica iii« m. croaaa of popai4ii..n lu tbia I.land. Now i find bv ibe cenaua afthia Colony, ihni from ihu y««r 1841 tu I84H. ibe iiirr»««.. in 274 TJIK LAND CY)M)liSSIOH. Iba fM|iiilalt<>n wa« IS.OO*) ; and finin *49 la '53. ihil it «rt« only M b.'> I - 4Im>«I <>••« lialf: «ntl rnn«iftiiio« uf •hl«l>i«''l. ltii« I* « •Unlinx f.#tng « )<<4ii4 riiioay. Il •« not 1 %>iti calriil, ;in«l in fkf>«iHal r«* V(»r<:l« fitxii «hii ii«i^til>t*ri<>« (!.i|(»iiir< 1*11111 on^ t!t»«l of it t* Ilia oilier, 4<.d ri'i.ii 41 le !•• »i«* !4f|{o, in«lr«4 of |mvmi;( >i iii*"i)Cip ^•4>|»uli'ii*n >t(10 or Sil tli>iti«^nj. it •h'tuM li«v« a ptipiilati'in iif 'iiiU iw S"0 ili->u«aiid. Il^tl llii* l(>«il)r c'*3jr, naJ liaj il (>tf«n p«i on an «>r|u.«l fiKMiag »ii|i riiliff .%••«« llmuaAM-k nr Nova .■'rati*, omt half mtllttm oT |>ro|*l« wiimIJ, iIiu U4jr. Iiat<* b«>«n li«inx ■*•-•<* b<»«4ifn. pro«- iMiroM* anci lM|i(*)r. rtii fjct M, llu« nir.t|(«. afMr** p««p«laiia« M nii«v Itruntw.ck which wat Coii«limtf4j a I'rovinrx at a lat**! |»«:iTho aiaiiatiot wo«o only eollocto4 IIm oight pratiuaa. Cuoo. THoMaoM.— I 4'tMi know abool that; I coo ooly an* ih«t. fttf «M»« •vhalft weak (Uf Saarnad I'liand aat opoa tiM iMi'bad of propriatora — waa aorroondad by tham night and day, a* that no mao. aava a pmpfMior, avor aaw him aAor aoaaol. (Ijioghtc? ) \Va wara uot occaaicMaliy at eoovivial partio* aod wora abroad at d flWaot plaeaa aow and again, bat aowhara »M my loaroad friaod la bo 0000. Tha propriotora got him, oa4 kopt him body and aoal. I maal, too, dn iHo propriotora jaatie* hf Mying ihal ihoy aaicctad • aoiiabia goallamaa t'lt pioad tliair •aoM, for a botiar apoocb no a bod caaa thaa iho 'Mio mado by mv Uomad ftiaod yaatorday, I aavar board. TIm* I bava boMi a low laara at tha bor, I may aay tbal I aavai baord a moio la- gaoio* •poacb la a bad caaa. I orao awara all along tbol lib •aato «•• o bad ooo, bat ao wall aiacaiod wao tM Uoraai Coooaol'a apoocb, ibat wbao il wa* boiog dolivocad I Mid !• •lyoalf, ** lo it pooaihlo tbot tbi« oaooa of bio wbieh, day tflir 4ay bat baoa bo B d m ini blackor tad blaekot, waraa aad wwM. roally oaaamai tbit ■tpeet. o«4 b eopablo of boiag aa mm idad !'* AAar tbi* aolHoy with myaotf, I foil as if iImm bavo b«o« aomacbiag orraag — omm aiaub* ia ibo aaiM «f ay olimils. DoabliMi blMk «•• «Mt M appoar arlMla y«a> I . I I ■Ui' m 9 iW J \\ \ 'v*1 " ; !■' •1 TIIR LAND fX)MMI»t|ON. 275 t««4«f . Il«l l>o«* «li •<••! — itliirli In • cwum ^itcMi i« • It'izinn riiHii'rv , aiitl mIimIi Im* n r«riil>* -ml, ■■on wliirii '••■d rr|M>n IImI It r«Mil«ina a |>u|iulaiion ••• ««rrr«linsU ndiaii * Tlia |i<>|tu« UlMt* t« inJrfJ »|Mi««*, aii«l lliii aKlilar) lir| •Imu«ii M l>4%« tivaa lb« iiroici'nrni nr IraJins l^t t« in lh«> lii«liii v «>r llti« Culonv firiMn iha Iihim iI «»4« Iti*! itre«iiii4iHl \vn« |tr.inl(*d awat in nua d.iv — |i ul \v«<, I r«i|Mnl, k«4 aniririfnl iiii.n In havn niriiii)(<-«i n T-w <•( ili«#r> r.ul«a«i(l •«Ml«iir*«. I iM-liave M« nuM li«vi< t>r<)U](lit lirlnfn \tt«r I'lrvU Imici«« an riiiibilioii nf fully v>n lli« |>nrl (if liir |trri«li ('rnMii. a»4 oToairigauMa riHi«turl on liir put nf rf>|iri*«riii.iiivi« of ili« Crown, roHiiniii^d frnin ilia |t«riiHi al Mliirli iliu lul.iitj %v>ifl formaii inio a aepNr4ip (•otvrnmrnt in I7<>:i (<• IHUO. f «« la Mriih which lli« |i««>pl« t'f iliu l«l. ma) bt aci{uaiiii«il,liut mIiicU ain n»| kaowa i« iha nilirr Itriiuh Culonirii, nnr In iltn pro|tl«) of Ka* land, — I aay if tlin Ira* hialof j nf I'rinro I'.ilwirU UUnd ««nr« pab*i»hrd and cifriilal«Nl in |-!ngUnd, it w»uM. lo a itfiivr ri. I b« lookH aiMin in tlia •aiii* ti|hl aa lh«i tiMiy ol H<>l)inMtii l>b Am* 'I'liiak, i'ur •iaiti|iln, uf a l.ii>Mit*aanl (luvfinur of lliia lalaad arv««iinf and karping in cu«itMlv a namtM'r of j|(iiiit<>iiien, bacaaaa at * public maciiag thrjr pa«««d a number oi rriMilaiioaa which raflaried apoa liia anconaiiiaiiunnl conduct aa (iovrinur— Ihiak uf ihair iMring aaisad and trraiinl in that inannnr for i*i* •rcHiaff tha righia ol itritiah aal>j>^la \ What i«ould itin p«npla af Eagland tlnuk of thai, aad of hi« eoaduci bting •nduik.ad bjf ^•ptiator*. Co«a. llAList^aroiv.— rroprioiora wtra incareeralrd. Less. X IS w «t > w r« • — i C«, TtBt i«*'^i .. I-, o« tyrannical conilact which afieiwarda rrf|«ct«d upon thvm- •alvaa. All waa rinlil ao lor.g aa na ranhtaiur could bn honi«4 hy lh«m lika a wolf ; bat, whan that pmarko, yo« trill Ml oaaaidar tkan of a harak d»aeriptio«, or atirihata tham tm aaMMaky fall lawarda aay iadividaal ; bat rathor. that f aa •ill atiribala ikaai la a mmm of dacy •• aa advooata. 4a4 AaaM I ia aay ■kMrtatiaai wkich I ahall maka, rtlaet apoa asf fiaiiiMia ar ala« af gaailaaaa, I 4a iMpa tkai aaak af m ram laitd oomfimov. I |1m« will eoMiiler that I •und hwrm b«f»r« j«ar EsmIU •■^•r tli« aoUmii mmcimni of an aatli ; and farthaf , that I tbaai4 faarlraaljr Mt fofth tha argameai* which I advaaaa. umi la Um baa* of mj abililv, aa a daiy daa both to iba Govarnc eai whiali rataiaad iim, and to tha taaanirjr of thia lalaad, o« i^hoaa bahalf I hava boea rataiaad •• ih«ir CoanMl. la tha iavaaiifaliaa af tha La«d qaaalMin raiaad in iHm laland* ara find two eoataadiag parfiaa ; tna propnaii>r« iia tha oaa hand — who aajr thajr hava dana avary thing (hat w riihi. — and ih« i«i>*f»i»» rr. th: zt.^ ua««i — wno tnaintam (hat the prnpriatora hava doalt with thaai vary aafairljr. Ilatwaan thata two partiaa thara matt nacaaaarily ba eoaflieting •Intamanit. and it i« naw inj daty to bruif ta tha ■atica of your KacallMaeia^ ih« •laiemania and evidaaeaa of th« taaaairy, and lo ahuw ihat if thi>y ara traa, tha staiamanla of tha propriatora nra aniraa. Aa a gantlamaat 1 woatd b« aorrf to maka raiuarka whieh would giva otTanea la any ooa; but lat aa BOW tarn »ar atianiion to auina fieta to —m how iha eaaa •laada. In 1767. prnpriitinra eania ioto iha poaaaaaiua of laada ia Princa lldward iaiand for nothing, and that nothing waa aal ** payabia ta inatallmanta." From that pariud, thay hava hald thaaa lands. Rat wh#n th<»y rnc«>ived grants of laada in Ihia la- laad. eartain eonditiooa warR atiachad to tham by iha (?mwa, t« which ihoaa who acc^piad of th»m baeama liabla. It waa a fair argaia: /|nd ag a riMidiu on waw to afidt^tha laada with •otmny lnrai£ii Prolaatan ta — and anothar (o pay qait rwataJ^jR CrawW. Thia Wit tha birgain, an^thay mada it with tnairayaa opan. From tha beginning to tha and of tha invaatigatioa of tiM qaaatimi in diapam my IrarniHl friend* on iha laft wara aayiag— ** %%hat ri^ht lia«a laaania to coma h#ra and diapata thair laaaas? TiiMv ««>i their a#nl lo iham with their «>yee opaa.'* Granted, f*t \U" «4ka of qr^uMiKnt ; tiat I lake it, iha prapri^ toia had /Afi'r f^fA o|ien nnd mnutha, loo, parh4|i8 •— whaa they I'iaL ;'""•• r^i.^u... «<«rr'iin rooiliinina, — «• the aama a'gamanl will ^pply (o ihrir clt>> iia Yet, f«*rthat . ilHtaa pro- priHora were ioielliKHni in'>ti, md aUnding hfforr their King whaa thay agreed lo ba auhjiNrt lo tha rondilHina of their graata, —a lalaily dilferant way from |in««r i|vn«fant lenaiiia braaght aadaff tarma by fraud and dere|>tHin. Thaiiargaia, than, ba- . twaaa tha fVnwn and theea.iiien waa a fair one. and ulioald hava baan fulBllad. even aa between one gantlaman aad anothar, aad eartainly ahoald hava beea leapt aa baiweaa loyal aabjacta and a patarnai King. Tha reaaona for faidliinf Iha ronditioaa of thair agre«*tiient wera indaad atrong. hat where, I a^k, wara thay carried oat in evan ona aingia aniiiary inatanref Thaaa grania, loo, wara givea in other I'oloaiaa, and qait ranta wara paid in Nova Mcniia. It ia naedleaa, loo, to argae that thaf coald not lalfiil them, for no aiempiion ran ba plaadrd aava ■ {ihyaical impnaaibilHy. I maintain that thara waa no impoaeihi* ity at all ia ih« eonditiaaa of aattlamani ; faraign Protaatanta eoald hava baan broaght oat ta P. E* Iaiand. I grant that it maj hava baan ditflealt, hat many a maa aatara iato a coatrael diSeolt to faMI ; that, however, ia his baaMaaa. All that pariad lh« Kiag uf Ktiglaad waa from Haaavar, a«4 baiaf a faraigiag •h, LAVO ooioinsioir. m If, tiM probabiiilf b iImI iIm^ omM mv« •%tata«d hia ••- la earrjrinc oat iIm oMi^ilNMit of 'iMir f ran^, liad ikay 4«p«we4 i«» nlfil tlMm. W«l. aftar a iMgraat vmInimi* :' 5: •fa aaauaci fairlv aalarad iato, what i« iha aaii ihing wa fia4 tfctaa gamlauiaw iaiag i Paiitioiiifig iKa Kiiif to fuiai ihu 1^ Iaa4 iula a aaparala (jovarnmaal. thai ih#y luiglii h«va aa o^ partaaiij of comtaiiiina anoihar ami aiill in«irM A igual act uC •aiqaitj, if puaaibla. Having ihaa violaiaU iHoir lir«( angaga- ■aata» laay amaroaiy n«iiii»a i«i« AiMg •«* «••«.; ,:.!« !.:«mJ ..-'^ • Pravieea, ihay ai iha aama tima piutniamg lu fiay ilia l.'ivil Lbt of iba a«w Colrnjr. Tha King — |ir«auiiiing lh«y wnra kaaorabia gtntlaman, 1 aappoaa— lu«»k ihaiit at itieir wmd,Nn(l i« •a avil hoar for iliia Island, riirmrd il into a aaiiaralo <«nv«ia< maal. AatI did lh«y fvlfil iheir nureomonl llii* tuna f Nn, lial jaal aa anblaahing aa bcfora did ilitty vinUin ii, and naver |iai«l thair qait rania uai of wliicli ilia (!ivil l.ial «v«« lo roma Horn- ' llcMao from I'ligland, wlktine aaUrira were in li.tvn liacn |iml by ihoaa partial who engaged Im pny ilia I'lvil I. ml nf Una Co* laay, waia aant oat by ilia King, bui tliey woraaiMin rrdarrd !• Maivaiion, and rumpclled lu leavo ilia couiiiry. My fiieitd lirr* — Mr. Popa, I beliava — produced a ditrumant to aiiuw Mini £1,000 of qait rania had baen pail in 1814. {*) Tlio piopnr* tora thought it woald ba n good J4ilii', I auiipn^o. lo prraunt that papar ; paopla do glory in iheir ahmne a«iii**iiiinR«. The gi>nil«. Maa aeni oat by tha Crown did not rerciva ilmir aatiiriioi, yot tbaaa grill l< man now coma forward and ahow init Xi.OiiUof qait rentt wnra paid, which pro«ea llint froiii liaginning lu an<| prfiptiaton of ihi« Island fjilcd lo fo'fil iheir f4iihrui |ir«i(ni«ea. Wbai waa England then obliged to duf — and iiid to pny iho Civil I J** of ihia Co- laay from the time it waa eaiMbli«hf>d up lu ISftl ; and aven la thr -"r***"* «*-y ih» aaliiry i»f ihM (iovcrnnr of lhi« I'roviiica, ia paid by iha Impctiul Gowrninent. How nnn thtfaa men, uilli ■aelaan hafid<«, coma here and eipi*ci a dt*ci«inn frniii your Ka» eallanciea fttvorable to them ? Ily thair o«n ahoMing they h.i«a ■• mora right to iha landa which they rluim in thia lalniid, than I bava to tha floor on which I am now aiandiog. Thua iiinilera ramaiaed — England paying iha Civil List of iliia (;ulonv. Kvrry 0aw and thea, however, n« opportunity olTtfred, flio llouan «. that ■• a paint ai laar, and •• a mailer of eatnmnn aanaa, ikair paaaaa« afcNi •h'lald k«fr baas andi«tarbe ; it aaa au in iha Pmvincaa of Near ' Bfanawick nnd Nova Siculia. In New l)ian*wtch a law waa paaacd m 1^57, whirh waa bai a iranecripl af an Act of Wil- liam IV., «»hirli iripreaaty roacted iImI a cuulinaed claiai •hoald liava no rtr«cl. (?) Cum. Ri rcHiK. — 1 like an f>)iltr««ljr Jiffpirnl vi*!W of lh« law. I lak- I ihut whera pailu-a have K^id iinaNrMinn fiiff %9 vaara, ai< aiiplicntuin fur u )rar after yeni lia^ nut iba af* MCt uf di«iuiUut|( thif p«i«««!«Biun ; hul, wa iha cuiitnry, alrenglh- 9UB il. 'I'ha Mirrc cbiiiitii|, and not arging it by procaedioga at law, makea it advi>r«a (^| Coan. TtinMaoN. — If a enniinaal claim haa op«>ralad to pr«- vant tha a'ntutn of liiniialiun fanning, t>iihrr b«trn nf iha dillemma maat ba aeiz***!. Kitlii*r it waa ao, or iha Lagulitura Ha* baaa gaiily oi |Mi(lMig in ihttrlauaein tha Art: for lo aay that il ■hoald liava nu oprr.itiun, when il nrvar had any, wuald ba Iuiln Nlt«ard. Tliny wi>ri> in that p«t4ilion till iha Act piaiad* #.Ani.«N«i ru;... fc-. ».-~~ u--ri. {.') Kv.-.~ ...:!....; ;!»; ».um. •ideialion. ia nn eqaiiabia pcnnt uf viour, their chimaara forfeit" ad. Tht*y rrri^ivrd liind^ upon conditHina whirh ih«y delibcra* laly left aiirbililittliilipreftirr ii« a iramce tor tha publir ihe Oowa waa bnand tti ■vixe thcin l.ind« for the people. I maintain thai (iropriftora aland hnro wilhoat the Khn«t or aliadow of a title ia aw or equity. How thin can lliny Ri|tect to fel out of thia I'oart anaraihrd f My learned friend-— who evidently thinks his rnn« a had onn — when lie louchea apon the Eacheat iiaea* lion, generally alidfa otT In anmelhing eUa — to attack old Mr. Conper, f-t iuat^iica ^ bat Facheat ia one thing and Mr. Cooper*a asitlenea i« another. The qaeatiun ia — Had Mr. Cooper a right lo agiiair Kacheal ? Waa there anything in hia argameata? I aaewar and aay — Yea; there waa a great deal ia his arga- inanta for Eacheat. Bat, so far waa Mr. Cooper from being tha llrtt advocate oTihia qaeaiion, that ia fact othara had aecapiad tha aama groand long before him. My laaraad fr iead iaformad If that Mr. Cooper, when an agent far Lard Towoaaiid, chaato4 lli*, and that when ha loal kia office ha taraed an aeehealar,— i moat aiiraordinary argameal to brtag bofara thia Caart to proira UniI tharo waa aotliing ia iha argumaafa adeaaead bf Wa m li J mi' ?1 m i V 1,^ li Tint MWV CUMMMBIOlr, m hi N««r of riM-lHHiiHig r«Mr«tt«d Und0. I bImII mw rtfw j««f l M »Ht > rM»a te lb* ifotiial* of iIm IImm ««f Aw^mbly of tilil Maarf f«w |h« )••«» ISX9, |Mig« 99. rMvlaiioa SSih :— > ** Ktmlwfi. 'Iliii il i« iftfl opininn uf iliin rrmmitti'A.thal ih«r9 •rt ••ill hrxM IrnriMof IniiiI li(ritt. ■iiiiii.irli ninntilulitJ with lhu!>fi in lh« neigtf iMOTiMii r...«^. ,«.«-, «.^t. t.« t.^^.J. .J t?-.-r ''•;•" •»••♦« - *«•- •mI ufj^^lirM lit ilin ('olofiy, iin«l wnnlil impviiuM) innd 10 rntard iU aHit**!!!**!!! ruliivmioii mill g<-iii*rNl \u\%*\f9t\\y ; mid that, wmt* lh« l.ind* liiiil- («• K^rlirai »nlj in aiiiiil ir.irl« to arlMal ■rttlrrt. lli« c<'iiiiri|ueiica to ilia liiiiaUilanifl would b« l.iiling and bMrfiriai." ilrft*, \4tar l*tf*nlli*nri«(M>in» mitic««y h •Miiiiti«*r i«f r<>^« i* N« To'l'iMa ; — ** ttftotrti^ ! Imi it 14 till- <«|iini<«n iirihi« rft. wilti rt<- fntenr.N lu Vix'iiuiii limlriii h'^ !)• «pilrli of Aii^unt l4t, lS3t, la hia V.ftUfury il.t' l.iiui (iti««*rii(>r, lliil lli»* iiiiHiilinn lli(>r«ia akpfe>«iti(, ill ili*< I'v It of .iiu I.iihN liHing K.««-lir«iiti| iti 1*rinro iKdvvaiil IvLiiid. llt>* 'iiffit \«t>uld in* im r«Miii«i|i>ii to llin (»^ru|iV* ing trnniiN ofllif* r n i.u«-h |m)|Ii iii« of tint vald Ijundi ii« tvri» iif !u;rll t iH'rii|iM d 4irn tidd nf llin l*ri»|triffliira, wo«ld, if ririi;>d «trfrt, plMrp ;i i<«i|i;ii |>ri>(Mii|ittii nl' tlia in- lubiianl* (if (lii> l*!.iM;« III ihtr ii> i4lili<>uririM I'iiviik ra — I li.it llii* <« lid I •itiinlrjr, in g'** rml, ari* a l-^y il .hmI itr-i«iiig r.la^n )>f Hi«*n, mid wtiuld, in iiiti «-%i>ia of iImi I..iim|4 ilir* iK-riiiiv lii*iiig iiTtiiMtrd. Iia%nn •irufif <'l.til •«i>vcriiiii<*iii, lr*Mii llin ron* ViUrr^itnin i:i^« ii ';«a.ii<-i« •.i>viii;( ••• iii«-u |«f r>«it t rnij( .ind tttttwv t/iun« Iii'mm iliil till? I Mill* in i|uii«iiiiir liiv«i ariivJ .it tiieir |j;«« •«>llt v.ilutt.** N«»*» wij alislt •<•• *vlini lh»* divnion wa« oa lliff«*» ri'H(il«o<»nf, |na«f«riain >*li>-ilii;r Mr. f 'iim,i» r w.i4 ilit> otily j(i"iil«*iiMn who adv.«r.iiri| t*<>i In* ii ilff-nn lti>t tliv '«i<i,tt fiiotion wiia iiLtdii li» iIk: i-fFiTi ill If ilitt fi.«rt • I tli« (.'oiiiiiiiiivo tc not ag/t'ed lu, uii vniiifti iliir divunMi t.M« .— Vaaa: Mr. >l«:l»'.fiil.i nd Mr. Ni Uon. jVii)a; — «i*)|>>t. KrcMi::!, f^-idf, IViilnck, IliniH. J S. M.Uurialdt iJrenmt, Dar>iiip!«, Uwraa, Cu«ip«r, A McDonnid. T* Mjr tb*" tmai. Mr (Nonpar wn* eartiinljr in rr«pacl.ilit« cofii* pany I and tn th« twrU* rc«atiiii »nt ra;Hirimlby- .liiv Cp«» iha ** Aprrada of Ktehnat," and apokaa •f him aa iMinf tbn «(«9f parann wbii want a boat Carrying thia irs« dli4l ao: ai« tbia ioamal, tvt maj u naaaaa tbad ■MPP! TB> LAXn OOMMimOV* it wM Mdalocal; fc«p< ••I ol hit aiglM ; and if Im 4ii, iIms Im It elitrgMblt villi ■ auf-pruM 9*ri — • t>MfWf kaeH oft fart •r iIm iralli. ttneh thtn it ■ spacioM* ol iht argMMtttt Mt4 htrt ytttardajr apinat Kaehaat. and wiMa jm iad om* kacpitf btsli facta lika if-aaa, iha eoncltfioa that thair eataa ia a kt€ •«• ia inavi'tHia, for maa do m»( reaort to aobtarfa^a whoa tiMtr eaaa ia a {ood ona. 8ach a eoaraa, ho«av#r, waa adoptad jtt- Itrdat. bat who ia to blama I do nut praiaad lo tmy. At aav rata Mr. Conpar waa not anieiled to all tha complimanta whieli m^n paid him yeaierday. Mr. Ilavilaad cama la thia C^ait and aiaied thai t)ir Graham Monigomcrjr — and I ihink ha mati iMta Imked op hi« pap«ri with great cara — who partly ownod Lota t4. 61, and 5f . eompliad with tha eoftdiiiun* of hi« granta ; bat on Ml far aa l. rtapond with tha Krat of a aariaa of raaoiationa drawn ap and ^ iha whula 458.68(1 aerea,, havo not una aaular r«> aidant • <>a> And thia i« tha oalv ghoat of an attempt to ahow that any of tbt nTiginal granii of thia laland warn faifilUid. Ia iha 6tli raaols- lion it ia aiaied— *' That it nppeara in thia lloo^a. that iliho* iha Townahipt No 7, half of No. 12. Nu. Sn. and No. 61, ara not aetilad ae« eofding 'o tha tarmi and condiii<»na of the grama, the prnpriator, tha Kighl Hon. Jam*** Monig< mrrjr, Lord tChivf Baron of Hit Majaaljr'a Cuort of F.ichequar in Hcodand. haa bren ever aetivt in hia asarti.^na. and lina ^tprnded larta aama nf mon«>v io lh« aalllamanl ui other Unda m llita laland. Alao that tha Tolbwiog parsona, Mr. lulward I.n%«i4 and Mr. John (liil, proprtatara of ,Townahipa No. 6. and iha lata parinarahipc of John Cambridge Sc Co . propriaiora of i'ownahipa Noa. fj and 64, hava mada diffarant ailempia (o antila iham, beaidaa jipaadiag cooaidarabki aama of money iheienn." In rafprance to tha Town-shipa mantionad io iha Aral reaolatita, mf laarnad lri«>n(i en iha oppeitit« aida remarka that thaca it loom f^ arguiiiant -> that iha eundiiiooa coatd out b« fuifilUMi— and ihoo comet tha qaeoimn of waivar. In diacoating tha qaoa- tHMof w.iivar, ihia diatinciion matt ba kapi in viaw, vis , thai what a piopi iaior haa furfmiad lande, and iranafara hia claim !• ■colhav, ibut tha'. ia a iranaaeitoo batwaaa ona aahjaat aad •nothar ; bat wha^i tha Crown aiar<:ia«a tha power of aaebaatitf latda, it doaa ao not far ila own, bat fur tha pablia goo>d ; thtnH fart Iha n»oat Itbaral conatrastion ahoaid ba pat apot iIm tsar- tiat of ihia powar oa iha part af tha Crown. Tha c«at, haw tvar, ladiflTarant with tha landlord aad tanant.fcr tht prapnaltv aata aolaly (or hia awn baaafii. Whaa, than, Um Crown alaiat t rot(aii«r« il it fft 6tn* fklie§, am4 I w|a« UmI iIm C«««b 1 '\ ! i i : I ?i I i I s I ■ \ ^ i THE LAUD COmnSSIOK. MSMC «vaiv« a lbrf«it«r« af this dMoripiioM, aiKl ihnl bafora « waitar of lacli a forfairara oratd h« graniad it woa'd ba aaoca- aarv ta gitra a aaw graal la ihal elT'Cl, i«^ und«r iha graat aaal afina Crown, aad with ilia anma I'^miiliiy n« wa« ata^ tha origiaal grania wara imard It would \tm ilNiard la iMak foe a moaiaat that iha thrown eoaM inv^i • porana wiih aaf right of ihia eharact«r without adopiing tltui roaiaa. liar Miaittora may parrorm abvurd ictfi, bal it i« ilm grmt ncnl thai biada tha I'rown. I mmniain, men, liim liiu >^g^'^.%■>.t V^:.*,.^^l was aaver waivad hj iha ''rown. and thwl it rnuM n«l hava baaa done mto bj ■ doroiiient under the grriit ei*!!!. I itdvanea tbia pro|ioiiition frankly and rnrijr, and nm onn Mhirh hutda g(M That tha Crown could not nhendon fnrlfituri*, and, ronar. aaaatly , ihal it never di-l d danca for tha acrepianre of «|uil renin frtMii grnnieea, nor any- ibiag to nh«iw lo which l.o'a ihey lifliuixed. i*i It sumv ba »Mid tba Crtiwn 1^4 a p«'rf»*i l o^ht tn aierrise or not tn rRerrtiiH ilia powar of Rarhf>ii'. wvhich I (;rnnl, fliould ynnr |-!icfllflirhpat iliem. llutt ihen }•»** would hava a perfect ri^ht to ex*'rri«a ihn (Trnwn liy •!•« ^ct of 1*1)1, Iraofferred or aolil ii4 rlnioi* l*. 'I'Iii' whtiln fillacy r.iinn< tnmg lite quit raat* on tna par< oi ihm^., y^U*t h^* «•.* y «... .. ; J*. . :• ••'••••••••• ^ for hf Imikinjf at ilir ron«lruriin aa bring meroly »ui>|ien* proprifiora iif|nn ihut iha 4|M«< (Ht\$ ir.err'.y rct:vr frr.tptr'.ir*'^, ••••• ••••••• •••'•y ••Mum iba word Tflrottptlipfff. Hut e««>ry riiu>t nf |.n%«« adl'er*** lo ibi« rala — to giva tatty word m a i1<*rniiieni il« proper aig'tfiraiion, and to allow no word to pa«t wiib«ut aliarliinK i'n own mean- iagta it, if jna ran give it an riprenaion in ron»i«lenry tviih tha wKola papar. (?) In refrrrnre to ilie qoii reni«, howrvrr, iho* tha propriatora aolemnly promiard to pay ibmi. aiiH. I>y fiiud Ihajf avadedthair pnvmani, and in everv reepert rooie lo t*iia Ca«rl wilboat tha tlightrat eqai«y. A^ ibev evadnf ilin ptf- ■MM af theaa ranla. aothev eiparl lo evadn the eal>je«-i in dia* pata batween ihamaalvaa and ihr> Tiown. Rver »iiic« ihera rae • aafarata Gavarnnant graatad In th't Tafand, ihej hava baaa 282 THE I.AKO COMMISSION. ^'iS*"i nntl |ir,iyin!* ihn Cfown to rnruit lotiiein liinr(|uit rffnta . AK'Hii t n rii:utti ili»* n oiT-'in m Ut lli)*ir pij ' niKnl, lull I i M'lit r-J c:-!. :i« iiH* ClOO, ,iii<| I ^;i) to tiitii - *■ Vity Mto (low .£!'> mimI I tviH iciiiil lo ) Cmiam g.iv* Ihpiii lwii»* i it* of 'ii a huii Irtrtl .icrri ; bill lln«y ill I ii'il 4iy — .-M iii»Ti uli I \\ ishi'J l» art l.ilrly uii let •iiiiiUr ».•...>...•<> ••••' 4 ktnuii iiiv«*«>i.| — lint Itiry ii<'«:>*|itr(i nr rfjr?ci«:(l lint 'ft, liijl ;illivrriiiir ol lliil tl.iy vvat olili^«>il lu H n itioclaiiin- lion III iliit t iliTl lliil if lliHy (lid not riuii|ily wi'li iha propo«.il nfllii* f*iot«ii liM k«oulnr.« tiiu |ii)iiif>i)t ul t!i« Quii Uriiid. TiiuM .ilFiir^ wiMit on, iciiioiiMranrii aficr rernon* ■lf.iiici> li.i\ii s lioRti plifil, nil lit Ipii^iIi, Miiili liait ill h.ind, ihey • fipi'iir ill ill" Kill;;'-* « lo4i-t d «ir, |»r.-i>ing iiii|iluiiit|{ly Air • rfl- niWMinii of llirir Quil f« fi>». Kii'iii llie vury coiiiiiiciiceiiient 10 tlin riid, lint roiiilui I of |iii>|triel<vii luif br* n iiiuit unrcaiiorMblo. 'I ' iiiivi* |irovf(l «n ulitftraciiva Indy lo (be vanuui (iltivera- li<»-iii-< iif tliM t'otoiiy ; iitid ihiou^li llieir iiuliuiiiniilniilj AcIC pn<«Ml by th«> I.«j>hI.iiuiii nevifr rec*-iveU (iiu Uoynl MitiiMranc*. 'rhi>y have bt;«n periniiled lo go in the lni|i€riMl I'alarr, and to make ri'pfpuHnlNtiiin* bfilund the backs uf ihe people of ihii la- land,— lru« or TiiUe ihry hava bpon making rppresenialiona ia lhi« way rr.mi Iha hpgiiii.inK nf (hi« bu«ineta. In aapport uf iheso •laleiMi'nM, .nilow ma lo diiecl ih«i aticntion of your Eicallcn- eic* to llin Am :if I8U3, uiidar which a Court of Kkcheat waa •«- Inbli^hed in ihi^ li>l.ind, and lu an eitraurdin iry circumatanuo which Afirrwiirdt occurred. In iha terms of iha denp.itch afrnt oat .11 ihiil prritid, tha Ifouia of Aa«embly pnated an Act which Onibudo'd all ih* r»rin(*inl*« which ihe Crown i\mm'*rm«\ tit ha«« onacied. 'rh«*rn 14 every reason to believe that that Act when ■ant llnirie would have received the Royal nllnwance when it wras paso'd in arcordince wiih the wi«hns of the (^rown as ea- pre8»eJ ihrough her Mmmieis ; and it coaiinacs lo be (enerallf helievt'd ihi«i ii did receive the Royal assent, but wae uftcrwarda wilhheld b^ interesle d paitiea. Thia is e dieadAit charge, bat t" ■III not hoend Id fnarli fur lis eorrecloees. Under the adminis- tration of («rvtii«ur Siiiiiii, however, the peopi<« coaid notgivo them credit Air any more honeatjr than appeared at the ■■riaco. Thrte i« every reaaon lo believe that the Act was supproMod. The general opinion is that it did roceifo the Kiite's aaaent ; hot wee never allowed to be given to the pablic. I do not say thai I have arrived to thai evociasio*. It is my iropreseion thai it was delibertaetjr aad rraadoleniljr kept from the Ki tg . and thai ho never saw it ; and ihal proceediogs ia reforence a oechoatiog Lota 16 and ftft wore based apoo iho common law of the taad. I thiak lhal Act was kept f-om tho Kiog's eye. sad that that ii Iha reaaoa why it is ooi tho Low of thia laUod at tho y tasao l do J« Itl < TIIK LAND COMMISSION. 283 u Vi \ llnd ihm Art Ici'n pn««»'<|. ilii* r.urt w.^nM not h^\n \>cfn C»\\f^\ ifi'n I ^i-tfnrf ; ;iii»l \)f^rv anti jiik*;.!-!!!) unulti l.i* u-i^i.- inr tlifi.iipli.Mi* ilif !. igih ami lir»M«I.li tif I* I), l-'.iml ; .ind iti- •le.id I I it"' *ti«ii" )*• *l )••* i>*'* n"^* roiiiiiiiiii, :i i1ini>ii!>i itiiil lu|i' pirr «»i.«lo of tlitf ;•■* wi'uU ♦•*i-l. N'>\v . nii|i|io>iitij; r.»i i||i> n ik«- nf •rxuiiii'iif iliiit ill it A<;t w.i<< |ii:l out ' r iIim \\.i\, \\U> MituM lia |lio«t lil»r!y •(» ii.:il p ,iw;ty «tlli M ? - 'IVii ml-* wkuKI litviMui inlrr«'|iin:: il (roni llif Ki'S'** >'\f : l>ut not mi iIii' |ii |iii(>li«. '; ;,. , J .J exInuKli li IjM^li-li p.iiriH IV TIk' <'iovvii r«»ul'l ii<>t ».t.-iii«| ili<-ir condurt l.in«#>r. A »l«'"i(i.ii« li \v.i« -fut out »;i\iii:j limt ido (^'iii ri?nt< iiliou!il ('ioin«n! kiiou« that lin n now infringing U|irui my privilrgo. I In ihiiikrt, I ^iippoMtt, lo creaia •r inipri iiiii ili.a lin iMt thn iii>rr<*l ; hut I h<«vu HDon liitU dudgCM of that kind playud h* Tire. In IH liia Lmttl A««i>t«. in«nt Art wan p.tii««*d — nnd hy whom? — TIim propiictoa could Ool havn U>'f.n r.tvornhiA to il ; nnd th« Cruwn would not hnva Mnclinncd it had lli<>y not hroken thoir proinid upon ihe d«i«p ilch of l.oid (iiid*- rich which ■ay4 eipretnly that at il» eipiiaiion Quit rt-ni* •hail r«viv« pro«p«f /irrfy and rtirotpectivfty. It ii« quite cl<*Ar. ton, that in ISA! ih« local l.rgiiilMture purchaned ilie ri^liia of lh« Crs'.vr: in •*«•< Uhind. My iearn«d fiiKnd argued y(>flt«rday that th« Crown could not legally alienata it« ciaima — cuuiii ii«h itmu*m far tham to a third party,— a iiinal aitraordinary potfiiion to twha, ^bat ail basineaa Iranaactiona carried on beiwnan ilia Colnniaa •■d iha Crown oratranaacit^d in iha nainanf iha Crown. A||4in iMeaua ih« Crown inada k prnpoai Who avar iHMrd aoch a propoaition ' It inuat hava haan aiartling to yoar Cfeatlanciea A man. a. g , owaa ma X'50 and I my to him. **Paj na £5 oat of tht* £60 and I will lat vna nfl*;" what w««iid yoa think wara ha i» tarn raand aAar I had niada r"" pr»« pcNal to him and aay,— " I don't owa yj* anything;"— and th« ••■dact of tho propriatora in tuhfnf \^ tha Qait rania dn* tht Cr«wn ia praeiaaiy anaiofaiia t« this aappoaad oaao. In •■•h • monar hat a theaagtntiamtn aeiod, who Kantihair taaaniaarnaii^ dkw« to tha aarth. aad taok avcry ohillinf from than wHiei ihaf •mM pMwhIy g«rt—with tha aieapilon of Nr Htviland who tetad ■rWaly a laioil to thani uaa ahiliing. Maeh, thaa, fimr r!icaii«nciM; ia'a •pacTihaa oT^niVcondatl af iKopriatora. aad aack m iK« •M««i«:~- -^^ ;h«.. MMfw* »«••«%« isHania. Bo maak for tha pari u( oar aubjact in rafaranca lo Qaii rania . — I nam* lain thajr ara daa, and 1 am aarrjr I hava not lima la ga ialo ■laiiatiaal informaliun on thit point, dhoald yoar Ciealianeiaa 4aeid« ninin tiiluwing propriatort a cam for tha landa which ihaf claim, I hold that tha amoant of Quit ranic which ara jaatly daa b| thaio, ahotfid ba dedacted from that «am. Bayond tha ahadow Ol a doubt I think such itiaai b* tlia ri>«ali of yoar Uaeiaicn. i ahnll now rhnw your Kirsllfiicie* tli»« efTHrtfl pniducad by tha Landlord at aieiM wliirh b«« e&i^lifil «• luog iii thi« lalaiid. Aa- aama liiut (iuit raiil* .ira dun, m that iliny nra nut duo. in aithar eaaa ih«ia "• oiia prviiimnarjr qup«tion whrli muai nead« ba aat- llad ; viz ih« pratant <«)iti-t bi» pcrpetaatad, or no li>ii|t«-r ia«a. I Imlioia ilia lian«i-wriiinf in nlrrady un liio wail, that Ika aanlt-nca fur tlio di^nliurtion of tha l«nant aylam haa goaa forth. I li«ipa tlia Jay i« not i*t dMiaut v«hf>u iho lands in thia Colony will ba liHid, not by aoifa, but by fri'Min**!!, and I do ao without b»*ii)|{ rn4Mrill«4« a 'uiupi uwatian fur lands ol winch ilify r^'prw^ant tii'-ciMttlvvj to l»n tha uwniTt, aiill at pro* priaiora ilify aliuuld not bu allownd lo «?ii«l ot;a liv it •t>-«tli ^ shw!:.»hv««( ! uign ti)tt Mptr««?ne«i ol tho |»«»|Hilalion I'hia laland •houM tin Baiil***! at iIim |»?i*M«fnt day by ona lialf inilliun ol* p«o- pla, and i'a inh.ibitinia would btva Huit>harad tli.'it many had thia ayalffm nut prt* vjili*d in lltu ULa«*d from iia ttr«t •attUniuui. Wh#n in\ UainHd fn^'ntl ail.!a<**>t ttta larger rr«|>a r.'ii!««id liara aa an aviili>nca iT Krwnier pronp. rH> lliMn waa *'nj')y«Hl in Na« llrun^wink and Nov;i >'4c«mm, Mbi>n> ik*i pl«»N. •js.-, lake tii'«:ii iiiil !ii''«l ili**!!! f)ril» «« rf»|»r»»«»'ni dm"* < I ihc c-)|Ml)ii- Mji'i o*" tliii l.ln.il T\ I* u j;r.- it iiii»*.iki> III rrli r.iiio t» II. •♦ nrguiiuMit .Ir.iwii f<» .1 lUi? |i>;'tiliru\' pulilio •li^rus-'iod, ('..r tlify »▼ • till t> li i» ' •" ''II ''I '•' rini''>it'ri> t ii\t'j llii'. |«l ml, m 1773, ti.fl 1 '^uiii- I'lit |'ii to i.uliir»> lii.» Itiiiisli « i.ivorti- inent tu r! in W.f* ,1 I ill- g .111' of til" r.»t»« nf inrr.' »"M «•• tlti* I'.iim.v t>l MlliU. «>l.>- I. til «« ItVII •tll|' 11 •• In tlu« |-!ii.J. '.*'-'l, iiiiJ "Inii-I'ijilil. g Imi« .Mill* ) III.' |i>' ','ii' iii'i>t ' "'I I4iiti.'\r l:i u Ui.i^d.iUl, Ur Krn'.v, tln-ic «ii,iiil I "dU !••• llr-'f .•ut Ik'W «l<>- 4 1I1.1 rM4i« vi.init III tliix ( ''ili':i\ ' ~| 1 :t of t!i»» .-'.m.i.'i^'i, mnl ; . tli. 1 a ■ « ii imli' k* wtm-h rciir**!";!!! tin- !..» ih a ml t " .umii m-* rt' Hi iIm i . lIu'H li.m t'\i«'f.| ,1 f urti tl » « *t.it«» 11 r v 111' i } n''f« I r ii tiiH r "lli'T tiir.' I.I' ii III. I |i iw'.'r t'« jiiit .1 vi'iii oil \v •l:iti'«. I •■«' ft tin< M t.uM, ai:i I It will not Ik- «|ii.ii.«>l I'V .iii> . '♦.iv " |i' I lri|H fli.w.t \\ li . ir.' w v .M«'t| til th •• I ri>j)ii''t.irv ""v li •111 . iMi" I'l' ill.' Ill" rt^ III \* !i
  • 1 t'nT {"'luny. \* 1 f 'jliI »Ii n iViuitli li liialie ii.jl tli'N.i ih.ii>fti iH williiiut iir.uM, :i'!i>vv im <.. il rc'i I llio 4' t 'Million I r \c II r r.xi. 11.^ irii ■• in m l.»ri' r \% ri',l.!ii I) 1 jir. ; r:r. tl.rc" I'slal* ■• aln* alv tii 'nti 'i.'*.!, .11. <| ttin j»"Hj''"» "f ilni I'lil my, ;ifi I -^ 'III t> (ti« • 'hI'Hii •! n;ii.T. I' mii- tn, 1' !.|..-!i, I I, j;r .'- i!L*trri|.;i 'ii .I'V.', O'l til :..'it|iii I I 'I'tii .». Ill" :i iii'f<; < >U'-|.l..' l!i • «ii.\. flim-Mt nf l!i:< l-lllnl, tlHll. Ji. ipriijlois of laiiil- in t!r.-« ll .liiri' 1 I ''tl* ' 't'liv Ml" li'ii i"'«;ii ".': . \ji"ii'".ii . I 111!' \^ ••liiH nf till' pu?»i", t nr tin; 'rii-lt •• nl* |tu!'li(; iii*'>r«'xt"4. U li-n li. ,' !'>i'fil l.'i(t! ilur.! jr., -I'll tl.f !{i-iit «I«»il \i ', iii'l lti'« 'I'm rii-*" ^''ilii|'' tuntnii \';t,!li' jir>[tr ''t>rx nf tl.i" l«' ml r,U'«fi| .it <'- iii'Mi I u-4 ou'"rv, III !!•< I'll- i.'-'ill .if r":)ri'>r iiinr. pii'. H'litatujiii fii III' i> i!i'':ii I" 'li • II wii'^ ti 'vt'ininriit, (iiu lir-t r)i'^iitiiii>"i| .Krt dill :ii»l r" c-ix " • i" K.ty.il ;i!''<'^iil , ami riii'«< .juiiillv «ii' V'T III'.* , iH'» iIk I; l\V .DMIIlV, III lilii .l'lUili.l!« nf !llU n ill«5 Mr hoKO — Ad thi? (imiiri. t'.r uf .ilmut ?•,•>, UO'' arro* nf Lii.il m llii4 Cul'itiy, I Ix'g (n Im- |»^riiiiii''ii tn a«Jdr«^« )nur hurUslii|i, nii 'lio parporl .inj olijucts nj c pusauJ liy (iir 21 2.S*; THE LAND CoMMIKSIOK. Colonint |.r4iii';itur«', nntl ifmat to bm (rnn4niil(*Ml for iht Roytt A«'>*'nt. I .1111 l>ut ImO Will nwirt* of the iiinount of rtelt'-goTrrn- iiH'iiJ conr.i>A*'f\ l<» »ho inlnliitiii'^ of tliH «<>lnny , and HXi'rrmvd by tlii'iii III iinliiiiitHti or uiiivfrsil tulFi i:*a; rIiII I caniKit wiMiii^lj br Maj-*U»*« of thi'ir jij«t riilit nnd |>r«'ri4 (»r !ij>i*«lir<*, oQi-li n« tlio^a iiiliuided Itere, und !• wlii'li I ii'itv ••nirf.ii your i.<>rd«lMp*4 .-•ttentiiin. 1 " All \r\ lit iiii|Mi4«f a K.'iiH or Duly on the Ki'nl Rol ■ of lh»» l*»o()ri#«|or« iifrirtiiiti ri'ntiid 'ro\vn«|)i|»« Landi in I'rince Kd- wird lilutii. III (iriii-r luiiftrfiy l)i<' «'tp#nfli!ii of any Armed Force ..!•..!• Ill I* i<<- •••|iiii>ii oil itcrouni o| iiiH withiiraiviti oi th« Troop*, .md Jiir iIh- r.iiili«>r (Mic.>uMKiMii«'nl of ^duration." 'I'lio pr<)pi«««!d r:i(r or duly i4 to Im 5 per rent, upon the annual rental of firh propri***or oi more tiian TiiiO Hcrfc of land, whelht^r the rfiit liH piiid or unpaid. An exnlu>>ive lax to be aoleiy levifd upon oiif* Kiifl of iiiroiiiH, inuy well be dcoini'd urijuat and op- pr«>iiHi\«v A pr'n;il tax upitn the ownKftlup . to iii*> under leaa»*. iiny wf:ll lii> tpriiied bad d**! t'«, and not rer.nvorable with- oai I iiliv of iiiii**, mo iHy and trouMe, which ini\ demand th«> ;iHlhy of Hriti«h iiubleiit(>n, onuied to anoi evila nod anno>aiirHe in tin* recovery of Ih^ir ju^t duoa rrnm itin^nila oo their Ittida. Ily on»' fxi^ing local law of thH Colony, the land« lord ia dt-barred from the remedy open to ail other claaaea of ifer Mij>*aty'a wbjecta — the amall hebt Court ; by another oi* ia«ing local law, the nroceaa of diatraint for rent ii reodercd ao diiKcult aa to be aiino«t impoaaihle eapecialiy, on property mnnagnd by Agt- ittd. Hy iii^ana of my own active peraooal agency on my own land, and by the aid of two or three activst honest, nnd reaolut«> fillnwcra, I am able oceaaionally to etfect a £i«iraint by way of iiinkin* «>»«m«irt of anr^M ~;»; iV.-r. c;d: narily knaviih or in!«olnnt tenant: but thia cannot be dona with- <^l employing two or three men, and thoae actuated by attach- ment nnd good f«eliM:» towar.U my««lf, loateud of the one inao for whom the hw all.twa me to charge eipen^ea; and by maia- tainioKand (iunporling, a« it were, a garrison in the enemy 'a ationi^hold during (he injurinualy long period to which the law haa I'Xtendt.Ml llie lime for holding powea^ioii of the distrained gnod^, bwfore lale. The pr.« imblo of the Act anaiiiai which I aildrHM vnnr l.onUliin r*-on tin- | ortu-n uf hi« I'foperty : in my criMn it aniounttii!ii.'akii.^ «■! " I'li'i r!» li.;«, f.itUi-, irt>«« • -, r'-rvi^i-rn, or own«rl^ in (li-iinuiiciii|{ r«iguerf, tbiavert and s.iKHhiMida, to Im; *u|t|irei>iti d uiid | ut down iur tht* benelit ol thu ruminumty. With ngard to .my iiiMMid fort'u «SU oil Mtiicii Miav !■•< li-<|uii«:u oil ;ii«(iuiii >•■ int- i■■ ui ..... «.^...|.d, our local l.«'(;i«liiluro ure iint likely todiTiii aurh forri) nrccvkury for any |iur|io<«i', and iiiosil a^iturtfdly not for tlo* b«*ni!!it of ilm proprtalorri , m unabiin^ ilioiii to r(Tltrritr, n* I iiiy<««i|f run leatify froiii oiporionct). Nor wnn the rii! diliiiMit uiid«tr tho old or aicluiiii: rfi:iiniv 'I'h« latn I'ul. I.tiif, wlii-n urtiiii( aa iidtiildivirator of iho (iuvuriii.icnt -tflfr tho di <'ra4e ut f'lr iKiitald Campht'll, AMuifd iiiu ihnt Uo had lii'^lructK ih, forhiddiiij( any •ach einployineni of tho inri'nry furcu. TIin waa iii rvpiy to my application to hiiii on the < ircumiiianco of one of my tonanta having stabbed a Shcrttr'a «d i'lom llm hand^ of the aaij oflicwr by a muuntid body of .irmud rutii ma, v\lio wure ac- companied, aii>l attcondtHl by, a muiiMKr of iho Lcuclitive AiiMeiiilily. Ti." proprietor can look fur no Loim lit from any armed furce, and «urely he at prexent cuntribult*^, unUur the Land A^acadmcnt Act, moru than a fair or juat proportion ofhia meann for the encouragi>iii«.'nt of public Kducalion. 2. " An Act to aecuTH componxaiion to 'I'nnantii in Princ Edward Kt.iiid. mtd thuri^by to prom«ito thu impro^cniuiit of the soil." l\y tliia Act it ia intended that when a tenant ia in artuar<4 of rent, and the landlord would proceed by the u<«ual mode of HiatrNini. fiillowMl. whttn nnihinif can be found at'on which to diatrain, by an action of ejectment, thu tenant iihall coiiip«-l hia landlord in thu fir"! place tocomp«mi«alo hiin.lh** tenant, lor what- ever improvementa may havo bMun made upon the land, nince the commencement of the term, ihu value of «urh iniprovementa to be aacertained by arbitration. Until within the laat nino veara, the period during which 1 have been a reaident proprietor 10 thia Colony, I waa intimately arquainti.-d with the practicu and theory of the management of landed untaiea in (ireat Britain. The preaeot Act duL« certainly seem lo me u mon^troua innovu- tioD upon all thoaa principlea which I had beun accuatomed to conaider fiied and eatabliahed by joaticu and ubbko, in regard to each property. Dal the evil of auch an Act aa tliia would bo leaa aitreme in (treat Britain than in thia Colony,wherein ninety- nibe peraona out of every hundred have a dirnrt fellow feeliog and paraonat intereat on behalf of the tenant, and ii)« Court v( Juiliculurr, — (lie rrnt linog nu mure Ihao one •lulling (Jt-r acre |« r aitnuii.. the d«T«>ttd int )>viD|t '"a- •rally di*«iitut<' ulike tf |iM>|tvrt) and cf (irinciplf , tlii> jurv uviuf anavoidattly r>>ti)p«.«»-d of leriunta, or ;)fr#ori intcrrttid lor teo- tuts, or liupiog tlti!iii*clvi-« tu bwroiiiu trfMliuldora uiihiml par* cita»iii^ llirir land, nnd tlm aaaclitjr ol ao oath IxMng but litllc rcgaideti whffo a |irii|iMiMor ia tu Lc injured by ill inrr.iclioo. fMfT. — 'riu'if •InniU ilii« »lf«»i»«irMl '••>"'"'»• »•••' '* ii t.n •»t.«il>«» lenanla arc " detliiute nlikt* of |trntM>rty and |>riMCipl«," and that ** tlir aancltly of an nalli 14 hut htllx n )^ard«d m iien n |iro|iri««tor la to h«* injured by ita inlrictiiin"- then I Mialu thia dty I am •ahaniL-d tu hetliPir Coun«cl. Hut I iiiuitt havu yTov( fruiii uther •videnre«. I lake it tu hn a titn-l n|>«in lh«« |m (»|il«> of thia coto- njr. In a coantry of llihlf*, Sch'.uiii and (.'liufcli«a like thia, if it b« irac ihore are tenanto ** d*-»tiiute alike cf property and prio- ciple" let ma a^k whu ii re«p«tnaihU fur their dratitulion in thee* reapecta. If they ore |>uur and ground duwn tu the varth, with bat little mcana tu aapport ihkiiinelvca, aru not pruprialura re- ■ponaible tii not ••tcriing ll.ciiir-<*lvca, and 111 withholding llioao neati- hy whirh »uch unforiunate Hrclchea may be rcucucd rroin that happy condition r A humane man — any right-niindtd rauld gain hia «uit. I>irect in- ■ tiinidiition and threata (hi-n are brought to b<*ar n^niiial any iter- ■ aoo uariiig to laKo, ur to treat with tlie landiorU lor taking the I vacant farm,—- intimidation and threala of injury both lo property I and prraon. It ia n^ident that, fur the luu^t part, thn improvoo Anient! of th*! outgoing tenant rail be of nu viiluo lo ihu landlord, ^beyond the amount which an iiicriiiing tenant would pay for thain, \%h«n fairly and wilhout undue huitle. hrought to ante by public auction in tim uaual way. The value of clearing the land oftrcea, nnd biingtni; it under cultivation, ia \i>r) generally re- duced and di'«tro)(d by the teuanta improvidintly crojipini^ and exhs'j:!:::g ihs :a:i, -.;] that tr.ari) of :t<«M« %uij ptjis.jna wrio. aa arbitrntora, would he likfly»to go tu the utmoat eiteni ngninut tho landi'id, would he r)|aally likely lo aay, in raae of th'- t'lrtn bu- ing oll'ired to theinHflvra, that they would much ratht^r lake • green wood or wilderneiui| i.l««i««. Wb«o Uod held by a t«oant ur l«a««i«. under lease, or agree* nieot, or a |*art thereof, ihall be laid otT or taken for a liuo of highway or road, the teuant or leetee aball be diecliirKed rroiii any fuither ot fotare |Miyint>ot to (he leaeor or landloid, lu ro- apoct of the Mid land, or of a |)art or |>rn|M)rtioo ibirwof, accord- ing to the eiieot ur area of the land taken for the liigbway or iiao of road* [Mr T — I cannot auo anything unfKir id that. Willi th»« qoLttiiin of frlacheat unaettled, mid thu ((uit runli uii|iaid, I iliiiik it waa right and proper that propriutora should have tieoiiiiisJo pay tlirae fates, ••specially whtMi tliey got ihi*ir land* uii tliu tiMiiH Mliich they did.] I believe thi* eiiacliiiect to be nn uripreriM]f>ntod r-tv-lty in legislation, and « :it«) utijuai in principlf. '1'Iih l.uud .\-">i •«iiiiMit is levied uiHin th«i rntiro aruii nt nnrli 'I't wnMlitp, itr •/ it il all. ''.'hn Act of which ilie iitiuv<* cklrnd (oriii^ » purt, or ooiiif nilier ,\c\, w:i4 pnastid by (he IIoud of A*«cni(ily with a |'ri*v:-iiir>u!J n*. rr bi- flopped uji, a* '.v )■• ir<^ rri|lii<-! nxl <>r<|. This t.'i.ictiii*:iit \v.i<4 not p.i«i4«*d dy tliu l.«-;;i4l.itiv« ('(mjiuiI T may ^Uu aUlo lliat in Act Mr:i4 |>;i<«- ••nm , re<|iiitiiii{ propruM'tri fo pill •('. ir iiiN-^ on reri d. hi-fore r#wov»'riim r«ni-< Irnm ili.-ir tciMni^ i. . . r I.-.isr, agreement ur odirrwriKe. I n.'^d acnrccly point out to ,. .n |,i.rd* ahiphuw dir.cily «uch :iii onartuuMit \v..ii!d -Inl.f .»( il: root ol^ a great principle hitb.-rto ifcnjrt.i-. d i,i ilio I. tiji,;; ,.| ,,..,i ,„y, p«rty, tliAi tiiH itoant oniiiiijt <|urati<»n hn lanilldrii't ml '||„. pHisi.itivi. Council havii not pasa«>d tl.i4 Art, bnt il wa. I....ncl.t forward n« a (•ovuriiment mea^urn. A- ^uch tl iv i« |i.;>«,l |,y Ihu l|()u<«> of Af-oii.tilr, aiiil It h.-i< b.-Mn puLli^h.,! ... I..vh,.' been pa^KHd i*y tjii l.<'gniativ« i:(,un.ii, .u.r- iry cnnHtnuenry in b«li.!Vo it to l.o iii.> l.iw ..f ih,. |,,,„|, j ,|,u^ Co bo atrenglhenud in iliPii oliatinAt*> rt>Hi(«l:inc« !<• ilif^ l.iii,||„.d. Jhese facu arn proof-* of th«> anuiiut onteriuiiird li.ward* th.' propnetora. A- furlhvr proofs .f aurb aniinns, I |„ -/ lo .Ll.init lo your Lordabip sonin oxtracis from a spvi ch madf by tlio Colonial Hecretary,ibe Hon (ieorge Coles, in tho ll<.uprov«^ of it, and tbaj rat'i'^ni'd in«. and I hafa bneo ratornml to tha lloaae at avery •Bb4e«|aiMil ei^ctiorii and I hata followml tho cauia pulicj of daaling widi ihn Ijiud (ta««ticn miMlnrAlptv, but to aoina praC' parfaei liberty looppova ih« re«olution of th«* hon. in(>rtbar, and IB doing Mt, I •h«ll eodi'ivonr, aa th« euimnoa naming la, to give it a black eye." " I amaaMtfied lli.it tliM ll<)aaf> haait in it^powerloinitigatf) ilio hardflliip^ of ilic tenantry , ari«ing friMn the original granta ; that remedy ic lijr laiin;{ tii<) land* of tlm proprietora. t'lider that "t^iriii, the proprietora will mim>ii be glad to cniiie in and oiicr iheir laiida lu the (tOTarnm* Bot without ila inHaencu upon them now The ront>-iiipt->ied lat U|ion tlieir Rent KolU, !4 another atep m thn Mine pro^r««««ioa. " I am no pnrlv iiian. Thu two «)p|H>Mt<^ p4itie'!i uMior uiijer llie natiiei or 'I'oty and Liberal, or in I'olomil phi i4»i '* rfinrhtr and Snalcher," — (l.auKlit«r ) [Mr T. — I am 4U!(i I aliall r*4turti to .N«'w llruna- «*••«*!« ••-.titi •**•• %'>»'«-«l.««l<* »«• ««| ««.«!if.^.at n'im**4 lltMtf* J»nt4fl*»»#l T diHer !-r ( >r popul.ir^tv, by prouu. aing tlieir cuiialilu<>nt4, and lo Tir n4 tii>'y jr" ahl'*, peii'uming Aheir proiiime. lo kuep up an inc< n^jnt tixl k^m > piiijf att ick upon all tlie r'glit4 of property and l.twa of ju<'.'<;>). |( ia lo ifer Maie»iy'a tloine 4io\nrr in ihia iruioiiy, II an itnparlril view were tnken of attii'ist overy A :t a< m th:4 (?oiony, during iiiatiy pt«t I'i'V'-iMitit nf oar L«:;i!«lalurt;, they would apitrni' liku eu:,'» in ri li tiu lun' ) •72-4503 ^ ;>, 4 4^ 1° ^^b" i? tyrtoajr wah which w« ara charged dy Uia dem«|Ofuat wiio gaio their braad t^y aatarting faiMliood*. [l^aghiar. ] LaroaMly boning ilial ;h« royal uilowanca nay niM lia given to ihaaa ccMitiaaad and tiajaaiiiiabia atucka apon ihi* i'ruiiriuiary I havo, Aio., (Mi*n«d) KOHEKT UU UCE dTLWAUT. Tba Ki|hi HonorNble loan l.tuw llnaairt f ke d(c. &c. TIIE LAND <«MMlsSION. S91 he Ifouse of A4«ntiiMy 4ioml fira, for ••ftttii); u|> a I ii;; iimt if ::(iii« lisarini \|uil '>ili, *.'>ii, liiK Ht>u«« wuDt into lid Mciiioriat:^ of |ir<>|iriiilurit!<)i)y, dtted I7(b I'l of vvliirh M iio'.v iM'fitro 1I114 I'uiu- inrorinod tliiil ll«r M.ijuii) '^ tiuvHrii* ((uHuii to Kiv<) lirr 4uii''li>:n lu two gmlrtturi- ul tlin ('t»'nny, n:iiii<'ly , an y oil tlio llt'iit Ko'li4 of |»ro|:riMtor« of U ■•• Mururo coiiiii<>ti4atU)n to IVn.ititt — Mil :»rr'>»nit of Cijrt.iiit nl.j'vtioiH ur^»»d iu l«t» <4iiccn, fintl to tli'j «''ilam *n <>ti|»i.tioiitf, ^* r.iii Ixi cUarly >itrl h-i4> (I on mMrt>|tri-«i>iitaiion, and ii<''iv«'4 u(i>ii(-y ia from i|i 'h 11 niltl 'rrn.lllH' J'oilipfiHltlofi A'Mm iiri4t tli<-ir iiia^nfff in tlio iiioiiioiiiila it|irifior< r' r(Tr<*d to l»y Sir iifi*rgo IU *. and in ji.irl I .giily ••iV«;!in( o cf t!i«) |»ro|iri«-ior* of land a* d<-roittti>ry to llui honor and ind*;- »f iliM f;ulony . in no fur aa in tHfirta |H>ace and iirunpcrity of thv paopia S9S THB LiJID OOHMiaSIOV. MtmifHd, Ttal trkil* llui CoaiauitM Mlj rMogaiM tW w- aliMAM* r^htcf P«liti«i. ••i wwM mti 4mj iia profwr •<«• •iM !• «■! elMt af H«r Majislj*! MbJMM, y«i tlMy cammI Im»- ilttM !• «H«f Iksir wl w prolMl wgiiait a omm •■fttiMs rnkmrn 9t tkftt AAciMl ligbl, M « llM eM« wilk r— p t et to tkm poiiiipai ftii4 wwriab m tk« laad propri«ian ud ttMir agMis, aiaiMl A«M af tktt La|Mlat«r« tf um CalMiy ; aad Umi wiiil* U ■ p«r- foslly eiNMtitauosal •■< propar (o •l^iMC Um fiaal Miaetaiwil oi aaj Law, it ia a grava olTi aMMMrialiaa tba flcvaraiga It iIm MmdmM ttf iIm l.a»taUiiva borfiaa m mek Law, aad la libal iha paopla with arboaa iaiaraata iImj ari iiiiniaiad. WasaBAt, aoKNigat oiSnr paaaagaa of a ainilar cibaraeltr, ia a laltar tifaad ** Robart Braca 8ta«art," datad at CharioUo- lawa. Priaca Rdwird Itlaad. Mav 10. IMft. aad addraajad to tba Rifbt lloa. Lord Joba RaMoll. tba rollowiaf •atraordiaary laagaago ia atad ia r(«rataaeo to tba Toaaaii * Compaeaatioa Ael, m ; ** Tba Act woald bavn, aad ia iataaded tu bata, ia coaaas- im arilb otbur Aeta, ib« efr*»et ofdaprtTiaf tba taijdtord of atary raoiady oibar tbaa tba aipaaaiva onm of aa actina at law ia tba (Krama Cenrt of Jtt«tieaiara— tha raat baiag oo nora tbaa oaa ki. lliag par aera, par aoaam, tba dafeodaat baing geoerally daa- titata alika of proparty and of priocipla, (ba jary baiog aaaTatd- ably oanipoaad af Taaaata, or paraooa iataiatiiad far taaaattt or bopiag tbaaiaalvaa to bacaoia freaboldara witb- oal parebaaiag tneir laodt and tba aaneiity of ao oatb baiag bat littla ragardad wbaa a propriator ia to Im iajarad by ita iofraoliaa. Uadar all tbaao advaraa ioflacocaaor ciicumalaneoa, iba laodlord hae bat littla ebanea of aaecaediag and siiii Um cbanco of baaa- lliag by aacaaaa, if ba should gaio bia aait ; din^act iotiniidalioa aaJ tbraata ara tbao broaglit to boar agaioat any p«»raoa dariag ta taka or tr it witb tba laodlord for takiag tlio vueaot farm,— • latimidation and tbraata of iujary boib to paiaoa nnd prnporty." jft««.*%'a »*«*f aaaaaa aaaW iw4C|i«aaa«A Aftaaa«»o«a%i«*4tt afta W ta**** aawf *«•#•«• ««a •«« faraaea aad io faet : tb«t tha Canipaoaatioa Act waa not lotaadad to hsva any aaeb elTaci aa ibat piadicalad of it ; that tba laad- lorda* ligbta, andar ita oparaiioa, woald ba fully aa wall, if aot battar prolactod, than tha taaaata ; that tha annual rant ia, ia vary many caaaa, mora tbaa oaa abiding par aer« ; (hat iha aU laaioaa to the chnrantar of defaodaata ia caaoa of laadlord aod laa^nt, and to Ihacoiiipoait^nuf joriaa in tba irialul luch eaa«a« ara falaa, aoaadaloaa, maliciooa, and praniaditat*'d llbaU on tba wbola comnianity, daaarving aa aach, tho atroagaat raprubatioa; aad that tba atatemaut with reapact to tbraata aud iiiuiuidatioo agaiaal paraoaa aod proparty, baiag aaad by any porliue of tba aoniaaaity, ia wholiy anfoandad; ibraata and iotimidatioa baiog ■aknowa, aalaaa parbapa, ia oaa or two eaaaa, wbara tba titia of tha elaiaaaal o( tba laad waa baliavad to bo aoqaoationably fVaadalaat aod apariuaa. Aod wbaraaa , ia tba bafora raaatioaad laltar of tba aaid Robarl Braea Hiawart, tba foUowiog paa- ■Bga alao ooaart : ** I maT alao atata that aa Act v aa paaaad by tba Ifloaaa of Aaaamblyi daring iia raeaat aaaaioa, roqairing pro- I . N.i m, u ,mi t t00i ^^ .Ma,> ■ii^M ^Trn W i Ca Tlir. I.AN|> (OMSIISSIOS. 293 ftri«(ort to pat their title* u|n>«i record. befoiA rrcovrriiii ranta rora their teoanu undei ieaiMi, M|{reewent or oil.«*rMi«e. * * * Th« Legiilaliva rnuncil h\rf not p«M««l i^iii Art. but it waa broo|ht forward a« a fovernaiint luuaaura. .ia luch, ii waa (iaa> ••d by lb« llouso uf Aanoiubiv, Mod it baa bucri puli)ii>bud a« ba> viof baan |»aM; diviaioo of ilie tp< iS, and are, aa it were, cvn- ■tanUy bidding againat each other for popularity, by promioing tboir coiiatitaenta, and, an Tar »• ihny are able, perforniiiig their prooiiae, to ket*p up an inccMant and sweeping nitack upon the rights of property and laws ofjaatlce:" — Itriu/ici, that the •tatomenta with regard tn the Rpsiatry Dill n« beini^ a (fuvern- BMBt moaaure. and puliliahed n« having paaaed the l^ngitlative Council, are utifirly umrue, and the impuiation* lo flngrantly thrown oat acdinat political pirtiea ia the colony genuralty, aa baiag aclaated by a deeire to attack *' the righta of property and Um lawa of judtiee," ia an anwarrantahio and nialicioaa libel. Aad Wmkrhas in a Petition and Iteinoiutranee of certain Boprici ra and ageolfi of land in INince T.dwarJ laland to Her ajoaty tbu Qaeon, dated Ith Juno. 183A, it ia utatod, aiiioogat Mhor tbinga, that andur ihu Land purciiaao Itill, landa are aoofht to bo obtained for the governmnot, at one-third of their valae; and io another petition and reuioaatrancM from the land propriotora (many of them being th't lame |Nirtioa wlio aignad Ibo pra«iuaa petition) dated I9ih Jun». ISAS, iddrvMaed toller Majeaty the Queen, the foilnwiux ■tMiiMiiMnt uccura, in refiuenoa to the 'i'enanta* compeuaaiion Act, vn:— "It ia a apecimen of elaae IcgiaUtion, of the moat udioua knid, and c;tn aorve no other •»a.4 •!.-_ •• ..J-.. . ••. I.. .1* . I .,•..._ . I. __.!.. „t « mttmtt •-.« ..~— .• ..M«W. ...• .....w f ^..^..^j ... -. ., ^ low rata, aa may be aoeu bv tbi> prtc** | aid liy the government for the eatate of Charltfa Woir**!!, K^q. ,*' and io a farther potitioQ of owaera of laud dated 27ih August, I83C, addreaaed to tha late Right ifon Hir William .Moleaworth, then Secretary of State for tne Coluniea, it ia alatod in aubatance, that the Land p«rchaao Act waa paaaed ** to enable the local aathoritiea to eeaell and di«po<«e of the pablio landa Io their nameroua frienda and adhorenta:" — Hetotve't, that the atatementa tlina put forth by the propriotora and ugcnta of land, are» in ovary reaneet. un* foaodeQ; that govainmeoi haa not aonght to obtain hna at one* third of ita value; thiit only one llntate haa heao pnrchaaed by Ibo government aader the operation of the Land purehaao Act, ftad that waa porchaaad at a price conaiderably higher than that for which the aamo land waa ubinined by a private iodivtdual a abort tjoio provioua to the government purchaae; that one of tho potilioaora who eomplaina of the action of tho local aathoritieo ia Ibia raa|>oct, haa recently parcha-ed a Urge and valaablo Irael 293 rants I !>««• \t ha- A iha I. and iaiul- f !»•" diviuo ry and Uittar , con- »ini»ing g ilieir ^n it>e lat the lovarn- itlativ* granlly ally, M irty and Ubal- ' cartain 1 to tier Biiiunget indi are or ihair i!i« land o tignad lu lt«( oriuence cintan of uu uih«r I • ••«»•• » ■• * ' m eminent Tarther ratMd to reury of he Land >ritiaa to ._ friends pal forth laot, an- at one- lased by jiase Act, ihan that lividaal a ie of the toritiea ia ible uaet 21»4 TllK LAND C0XXIS9I0M •f lead ia ihia Islaad for a |>rice very foasiderably Ims thaa ibe OMiioiani price ia the Land iiarch«M Act; and that the |iarchaea •a bis |>art was eflTvcled, while (he Tenants* cnmpontjiioa aad Real Itell DiiU wereander the eontidcrratioa oT Iter Majesty's Oovernmeol, — tbaa tbewing the iaconsisteeey o( the pelitioaer aiiaded te, whan be sfiied hie oame to one of the petitioas, whereia it ia setieiy slated that one of the disallowed Uills, if passed into law« woald have a tendency to ** drive all moaied mea from the laiand. aa no one will be iaclinedf or can be at- paeted to iavoel ci|»iiai in the perchaee of land;** and with reepeel to the esaertion that the local aatbofiiieo either did or 9^%t atteanptetf or songnt to reeeil tne pelMic lands to their '* aameroes friends aad adh^reats/* it is wholly wiiboai foenda- lioa, — all persono ia the Island, withoat distinction, being at liberty to parcbeea from tba govoranient, laade oa the fcleiata alladedio. ilfsolwd. Thai noihinf hae e«Mlribeted eo naacb la retard the prcsperity of thio yonn< Colony, to foster diaeonteni and agita* liaa^aad, at limes, sarieesly to imperil its peace, eo the eoo- tiaaaaee of Ibe leasuhold leaere, and loo often lb«t abaeoee of a eoaciliatory spirit lowarda the tenantry oa the part of the owaera of lendsd properly; aad while the L«>gisiatare of the Coloay, actaated by a sincere desire to promote pnhlie harmony aiid proeperity directed their edforte towards ilie removal of tba evils compiHint'd of, by passiag aiieh aaletary mee«aree as woald taad to elevate tbe charaoler sad improve the pneiiioo of iba Kal majeritv of lha iabahilaau of tbe Isiaad, withoat injariaji rights of property, or preesiag aadnly oa say class, thav •lertioas have bean eoaateracted by aa abeeniee proprietary bodv, wholly irreepoosibia to say aetbortty, aided by reeideat had proprietors aad Agents who iavariably embraoa the viewa •f the abeentees, — that while each a stale of things is allowed to prevail, and while abeeatee laadlotds. and others, are allowed eneeeesfally to thwart tbe inunlione of the Legiaiaiara, aad tbaa deenmif'sllv tn wield the ifeetini^enf iK* Pnlnee .1— it ernoM \m in ▼aia to bopa that tba people of Priace Edward' Isiaad can attaia ta that measara of prosperity aad contentmeat to which their ia- lalllgeaee, their iodastry. and their fidelity to tho Rritish Crowa aatitia them, ia eommoa witb other of Her Mejasty's eabjeets ia Ika earroaadiag Praviaeea. Jtssa/vsd, That aa hambia Address ba ^ r essatsd to Rar Majesty the Qaeea, embraeiag tbe bets sad viewe eel forth ia Ibe preeediag Reeolatioas, aad prayiag that tbe Royal iaterfar- aaaa aad elemeaey oMy be eiereieed witb tba view of reliaviac Ibe Coloay from tba aaemaloae peeiiioa ia which it ia alaaad ftom ila beiag praetioaily andar tbe swsv of a power eo forein la tba eoastiiutioa as that of a body of lead proprietors, ebieflf Ma-rasideal,'->ead that the Lagi«lativa Coaaeil ba ra^aaaisd lo joia ia iba said Address. Jtaso/eed, Thai aa Addraea ba praeeated la Her Majesly tba Qa«aat pn^iag tbal Iba Imperial |overameal will aid iba laaal «^_ ■ , mrryiag oal iRa re o omaiaadatioa of Har AdiiiaiiUalioa w aarryiag TRS LAND COMXESSION, SD5 I' i 1 ' !1 ,M h ' i ; I n. II S MajM«y*a proMnt Colooial lltnitlar, with rMpoct lo Ihc further fiiirch««« nf TowiMhip Landf iii thii Uiantl, and that the L^ia* ativs CoMncil b« r«qa«at< d, to join io tb« aaid Ad«lr«M. Mr T-ln jasiica u» Mr s^tewari,! may tlnia thallh^rawnramany oih«) nioiuuriaU read b««id«a hia, bat i 'laiectad hia bacauaa the reaolatitioa p4»»«d by tha iluata «v«ra batad apon kia mamuriali •nd tba oihara war* luaca inodaraia ia thair tone. I may ra« QMrk, MO, thai I raonut ae« how aay propriator cuald hara a aav deair« to iim iu a couBtirv whara iba niembera of iha L«- gialatara were against him. Wara I a reaideoi hara, «utarlaittiof forcibly oaprMaed wiihoat reaarva, I cartainly woaid not raniaia oaa hoar loagar ihaa waa aacaaaary to maka prcparaiioaa for my dapartara — 'l*ho difisioa oa tba raport uf Ilia ('ommittaa wta Ukaa, and ia at followa :~ Yaaa— lluaa. Maaara Whalaa, Col. Saerntary (Geo. Culaa), Col. Tr«a«aror (Jaa. Warbarton), Loid, Wi|btmao, Moonav; Maaara M*|>oBald, Perry, Monro, Laird, Uingwall. M'lutoab, Mairhaad, MMiiil. Thara waa ona *'Nay," aad whom do yoa tbiak th«l aoliury individaal waa ?— Ha waa Mr Yeu. 1 may raiMirk, too, thai I aoa tha namea of Maaara llavilaid, Loog- worth and Daaa«>, etc., in the debate, bat they dn not appear ia tha diviaioB: and what became ol theaa geiitleinen, when tha athara ware recording thair aamea agaiaat aach a tremeadoaa Coan. Palmbu aaid Mr. HavilaaiS aod Mr Doaaa wara Coai HowB — Da I aedarotaod vaa to argaa, Mr Thomaoa, that tha proprietary ayatem ehoald ba brokoa ep, baeaaaa pro- prialora ia tlMir combined eipaeity, overrala the Legialatara of tha Coioay aad abetract the paaaaga of Law* ? Mr TMOMeoa— Yea; That ia my argumaot. Cam. Gbat — Mr Thomaoa begaa ujr eayiog thara waa a faarth aetata in thia f^olooy. Ia addition to tha tiovernor, Coaoail aad Uoaaa of Aaaeaibly,ihat mare waa liie proprietary Coaa. THOMaoM — I. think tha propoaitioa which I mada raapacting a foanh aetata ia the Goveromeat of thia Province haa haaa clearly aabataaiiatad, and I aay of it that it ia aocooetita- tioaal, aati-Britiah, aad ahoald be immediately aboliahad. — Aad who koowa bat what memorial aAer memorial of thia deecriptioa BMy have beoa goiag home, and the people of tliit Colonv not haowing anything about it. When a meiitoriat of tho kind juat read waa aent home ao late aa ISM, with Kuaponaible (Jovern- maat eatabliahed ia thia Colony and that iur« lo KagUiHl h«v« roeoarao to thm Colonial CliFica ia aa irrf^aUr rovaaar * Coan. Tmom«om— It v>, anU I ihiak Ih* tima haa rnoM whoa aaeh atKialJ ool eiwt aajr lungur. It i« ttartliag lo think thai thia naroerial «taa written »n\y fi»ar jreara a^o : and I may aik, what thi natarn o( tli**** coniiiianieatKinfl woald h« previoaa to that poriodt when ptipdlar rij{ht« did not ree^iva that coaaidero ation at lb« banda (. l ili« hi>infl aadioritiea which thajr do nuw? 1 arg* thit aa one great r«>a4ua why the propcielary ayateoi thoald bo {inmediAtely broken dnwn. Thu ayctem doea not eiial aay-where mvo la t'lia uitiufiMii««« C<»'»%tuj. !••«! !lti •*«.<•• Iv aed I had. lime lo have esimiaed iato the hiitory .^f tho AmerirNn Statea and imted ih^ir condition aader thia tyaien, I think we roald iiavu thown timt lo bo free from it, juit aaeh a alruggle Ma waa ronim«nrM und haa Lf«n carried in here, took place th<>re. fdiiak wewualj hav0*hnwnihat not a •tngia Colony* after bfing able lo walk b v iiaelf, and K(»eak like a uian.to apeak BBetaphoricaSIyi toiaraifid the proprietary pr*tam one boat loager than waa neee»ary to pat it down. '1 hen why aboaid thia Colonv «lnnd «>at in •uch bald rt>lier, aa the only oaa wliich ahoaUl Ite U-fi ihe viciiiu u( proprietary rule. I do not uy that rightful owniia i»h«iatd not r«>rfi««] cuioprnaaiian for thair laoda- God fttrb'd ibiit I aid ataod here to advocate the caoM of th* tananlry of ibi< ' i, or uf any uth>-r Inidy of raeu, and argae for the dniiiraciK ti tn therighta ufproperiy There inny bo pariieo irho have rce«i%i^d tboir landi fairly ,aod h'>norably , und if so their rigbta aboold he preserved la other caaea theae landa may ba tba aale dependence of ilie widow and or^*ban. and tJfid forbid that I ahoald .idvncato the inking away of their •iay,with(iat aliowiof them aa adeqaaie cotnpcnsntino. (a reference to the argamaoti advanced by as in favor of llachfat, yoor Flieclleaciea may da- larniina that land* in thia Ulnnd are lialiio lo fcrfcitare, and* that the a)itain be bntken down, and 1 aak yoa toaboliah it; bat I do not tay tb<* property of uny one, to which he ia jatlly entitled whuuld be takvn away without paying for it; bat at iba _ •' I "V- :..^'.._ •. «!.„ ,...•••.••.. it !« mmIw *i«l«t llt«* ••M«W MauVf 4 •M,^ <«• j.>..<<..» »„ •••« »^^^^,. J .. . . . .J r:^ . "**T yoa ahoald look at the circain>tanc«} ander which they aettled on tbeae landa. lo ettimating tlia valae of thair poaaeaaioaa, yoa eaanot look at iheni aa ihey now ttand, enhaneed bv the labor of aaoceaiive genf»ralit«na. Many a pr>or hard-working roan, having been deceived, came oat to thia country, iiettlf>d down hare, and thua brcnme i«oiated, aad almoat cat off from iba eivillAtnl Morid. Ai lb it p«ly in U>m ;)n. F*w, vary few have attainra to a competency and*r th* f '■■y \\'-H i'H THB LAUD OOMMnUOlT, 297 ptvyHalarf •fttMi. It tak« • fmn tmm havMf iht r«igU«e« af kit ftMily, m mi imofo a fcra wbieii wod4 afUrwardU Mk* il mH for XUt PWIM,aMl »tr«aM«ia mm :U«; ■■< 4w« tpmtm Umi fact « •iaiikr cir««aMtaae« bi n«v« SfloUa iek f WImt* wmM jo* Iii4 •■ iiMiaM« tf ■ •VM is tiM MMtl «cfftl« part ef Nnva Booik (W Umi I iMtHM • pwpwty Miff wofik XSM r .In wmi «aaw,I mn mjM wmU b« worth Msrljf ■• «•■! tlMMtadt ; ilMr«(W« wkaa yea v«Im Umw fanM, il «o«l4 mC Im fair to Uka ika VMftI arXf •• ik« ftpr w aautiy oT XlO«. !• omm ia wbloli laatlfl hava kaeoma wonk £9 or X4 aa aara, oa aoaaaat af ika CCci ;~""*T •• •»••*• i thiair {« iaatiea ika taaaal. a«l iba pra> Brialar, it a«iiila4 to iha piafil. la all eataa wbara pniprtatoia kava aal iaiprava^ ika Iaa4« aritk ibair uwa aMiaa}, I tkbik II iM ba Csir la ic«ak at tkair valaa arhaa ihair taaaalt aalllatl ikaai. Ania, laok al anothar avil of tka proprioUry riaa. Haa at Tad to fair daaliof batwaaa aaa and mia ?— At E l aaaar'a, ara arara iaforma^ of paraoaa wku wiihoal litlaa wa m iiiiaa caaM aa iba datauaia of aartaia laada. la alkar aaaalriaa, aaa aaa ga to ika pablia raearda aad aaiiafy kiaiaalf aa to Iba validity of a nuaa'a tilla, bat D•^l to ia P. E. lalaad. Uara. a fraal gaoilamaa arha cooioo froaa tbo OM Coaatry aaad ■at prodaaa kia liila aalaao ba eboooao. (Mr. TkoBiaea kara rafarrod to a aaaa wbiek eaoM aador kli •iva abaanraliaa. Il waa aboal a lady wba gava naaav la aa afaal to baild bar a baaa«, aad afiar il araa baili aaid ba had aal fawar to f iva a dead. Il« aaid, if ika faeu wara aa datailad to yaataattaa aad kiaiaalf, ko woaM lika la aaa a jary «fka araald |ifa a vatdlal agaiaai tka daeaivad pariv.] It «aa oUiad oa avidaaaa, toa, ikal a Mr 8a*iaSa waald aaaM aha f elaiaiiag eartofai laada, aad daauad tka paopla aaillad a« Ikaa to atlara to kia aa ikoir prapriatar ; aad ir ikay rafaaad ka waald toka iogal proeaadiap "fviaat tkam. Tha lina for lk« •iufaM of tha Caan waald arriva, kal Ikara araald ba aa lawyata t&t OM loaaat : tkay araald all ba aa tka aikar aida. A aMS arka had plaak aaaagk to aund iha prapr iolor a trial, araa farta* aaaagii la rotaia a iawyor uumi mm»»^tm Tim*****.*, II« Im^ id to ba aa hia wav fraa Halifai to Caaada. Tha aaaa waa bi Coart, bal Iba prapriatar did aal lad il oaavaaiaat to hrlaf il aa at that liaM 8a aaaa. haaravar, aa tha taaaala laiv yar waa gaaa^ad tha aavigalioa aloaad.ha foaad U ooaToaloat la try Iha aaaa, aad, af aaaioa, tha aafortaaata taaaal baviag aa lawyar kwi hia tail. Naw, voar Ejieallaaaiaa, tbia ia aa iaiagw- ary aaoo; ..ad, if aa. May f not aak ^oa arbnl ehaaea a taaaal ha!i af gaiahig a tail ia Coart bora agaiaal t propriotar. Caaa. Palm ■•.— Haw laag ago ii K aiaaa that eaaa aa» aartadf Caaa TiiaMaoiv.— I daa*t aara haw laag oga it waaj for Iba Ibaa whaa it aeaairad ia oatin»ly bahiad tha qaaoiiaa. It it a fiiei f— That ia tha qaaatioa. Wo waro iaforaiod, toa, that k« dayo aartobi partiao wara aeeaaiomad la ga aal la Iha •aralaf m haat aMMaton. I aaad to haar af partiaa la Naaa 298 TBI LAND OOMMURIOV.* ■flstift and N«w UriMwiek g^mg to haat mmom, 4Mr •« emribM, •r •■ytkiag •!•• in r—>m. bat what tlia baaiNig af Mrhaatan ■Maal, I aoald not MiHl«tff«Uiid. (I^aghtar.) Ona of tbaa* parliaa. Iiowavar, r «aa lakaa. anil wiibiHil imtn of law. warraal, •r aajrihing io jaMif* ih«ir pr<»c«lin(« , wmt impri^onwd ; Ka laid ia jail for month*, and «raa fi<»i libarjtaii till l*r Yoaaf var^ baM««M«i» >^*\mA »...« «-• \-* -h:- :--- -.Ta . '.Lw- r... ;.i i'.-ii •artbly rwaMNi than ihw— b9cau«« hn lo(>li«d lika a« «arA«afar. Cam. llowB.— >Vna liiil bwiirr iHl what b^ama of him. Coaa. Tno«««om - \%'hnn liboniiNl. h«t Kmk to bi« bcala aad 4id aot hah till li« reaeh#«l lhr. and majr ba detained b«ra; if ao, aad Eieallanrf frnm Naw Hranvwick gal k«ma bafura ma, I yoa arill ha ao kind aa lo praaont my compliiiiania to my paopla •ad aajr tbit I may ha ii|H>eif>d •hinrtlr- (l^ogbiar.)— >l aMiy ao«r aiNia iKi* I am in«iraeiad lo aak Yoar Eicallaneiaa la.a*- ^aira into thi* liilaa of Und cUimanta ia thia Inland. I al ika aawa lima giva it aa my npinmn ihni ton ara boand lo da aa,fitf it e^anut l*a aanamad thut avarjr individaal claiming to ba a Capriaiar la a rightful nwnar; ihnrrfara, I think Voir Eieal« aeiaa ahoald aiamina and aaeariain what aambar of tillaa ara good. I biva baan infmmad by iminy of my eliaata ikat aaaa tiliaa, al la^at, ara not go«id. }^am9 pmpriaiera hava flad abatraeta uf ihair liilaa, and oihara hatra aoi dona aa. I woaU raaiark hara, that n«tra«Mrdinary ramarka wara mada by aaa af Iha lailar elaaa, daring tha aiaminatioa which look plaea bafara Yoar Eieallaaeiaa Ma aasartad la Yaar EtRollaaeiaa* pr< Ibal alatamanta wbirb a lanani had jaal mada wara *' falaakouda,** for which ha aftarwarda apologiiad ta iIm Caart; aad afkar interfaring with the pf«*^4«di«tg<* of tha Onart.ha fiUd a prataac agaiaat tha powara of ihia Cuii«mia«iaa. Sabaa^aaatly, laa, ha ollarad lo 61a a procaat agaiaai lha baariag of a ar i aoaar who oa a (mtmM aeeaaion waa broaght bafara Yoar Etcaliaaeiaa. Naw thai protaat waa not rejected «i «v inalaaaa aaly. for Mr Halibartea a laa rafaaad hia eaaaaal la Ma baiag ilad{ aa4 Mt Havilaad abjaeiad, Caaa. H4biaoBTo».~l tkiak I aUlad iImI it araald Ml mmm wiihia iIm aaitaa of Yoar Ciaallaaaiaa* CammiaMM, aad iWl tiMrafara it wmU ba aaaaaaaaarj la hara tl ilad. I f ^!=7rr mmm THB LAND CX)MMIS8ION. 299 I I jH !!••. Mr Havilamd.— I obj«cl«4 mi ib« Mm* $tomn4, Co«ii. Tnom»om.— Bf iIm wajr. I tiMjr ■!■'» ih«i ■ce«inliiig to •VHl«nr« f ivwa ai Hi. Elit«niir*ii,r ib« uni* ••>•! XtH fur ih« nik»f, wliich aliowtf, I llimk. thai ik^ fwiriiM rrum «rh»tii Urn howglii lllcai. ka«w lliMiil itiiU ennaijcraiioa •I Ilt9 hande uf ihia I'oari. Anoilivr nil uf iti«> a)alrm, ia th« ■ada« inlla^fira witich ii KtvM pro|in«lnrtf ai ||i>nrral •Ireiiitn*; ••4 if ihera ba una thing iiMua ubnonua* ili<«ii Niiuihffr tit a man, ITS il i« intnrferrnrv vf iHm kind with ik«) (ie«* rtiTciaa uf kit •la«im n« •iiii|ii« a« Uehlora, bal aa TOlrra. Wm wmtm lul«l ihai lilifffd u|i)in :hn •'atetn<*nia uf ipropriaiora, for Ihnjr ara a« marh iiit»re«le(l on the ona band, aa Ika tanania ara on iha other hand. Yuar Kicallenriea ara awara that at oaa meeting held in Prinea County, a proprielur waa Ir«M»nt, endeavoring to prevent the penpla from appuinling alegaiee to aend (o tht« Cuarl;— and hera I would remark, that Ihia M ofin dilRculijr itndar which wa have talnired aa f'uantel tot ihff tenantry. 'IVoanla wera nut in a poaiiion, in n.eny «aaaa, to eoma and giva iha real otata of their reaperiivn oaana. It waa aiated by my learned friend yaaiarday, that only ooa solitary rata uf hardahip, daring thie inveaiigation, waa prcaantad to thia Toart; bat I affirm that if wa piuducad nna, that w« •oald hava brnagHt forward (an (hnaaand. Your Kicellenciaa, fro ramambarad, said yoar tima coald not ha ocoapiad in hear- i«g privata ea'ea of hardahip ; and wa woald not hava brought f«*«M>«4M iluti tt»u»*'Hlmml !.••*• !.««2 '.vc s-t :zr.::icrcd th: crndact •f a proprietor to which I hava already alluded, a groaa con* tompt of thie Cnart, which camo here aa a Koyal ComtiiiMion. Yoar Eieallanciaa wara aaraly entitled to aoma liilla reapael. Tka eaaa which wa broaght before yoa too, wa knaw waa on* is aipraaa violation of yoar wiahea. Aa regarda proprietary iataaaea at eleeiiona, «r« had tha taeiimony alao of Mr John K*L«an, who recaivad a threaianing latter from Mr Yeo, in ntt9ne9 to voting, and if that influence can b« employed in Ihia manner, (ii« avuner tha pntpriaiory lysiem i« broken down th« hallar. No rapraaantativa body can ba pnra nndar each •irenmataneaa. Whan Raaponaibia Government waa grnnlad to thia Colony, il waa aipectcd that tha mambara of I ho Aa- fltfnMy wnald ba fairly alactad ; and that that body would b« iIm asponaat of tha viowa of tha P«^pl* : bat if tiia f •pr«»4inta- livao ara not alaeiad by the fraa choica of tha paopla tha ■yatam •Iwnld ba aboliahad. I any, if tha propriaUry ayatam ia going to b« porpaiMtad ia thia Colony, than iho llonaa vf A^aotoibl y !!i i SX*|ienta allend.inl a|MHi the opening of roada. ■t wh.-tt dr.tl «aa alliiv«<-U \i^ art fur ('uiiard to ovrraai a prore44 r tho (VoMm. On lint ocra>i' or (tifiirni ware pitted '1g1iu^l nrU other, aed tho rnaa!^ \v4 th-it Cunard e^rapcd Milhout |i4\ir;.' liia aA^utameot. Thn l.egi«lalttra, however, bring dia«aii*lii li. pa««rd an Act •atliorixMig the ncliiin to ba r^'nt-wttd, but tlin Art Ihroogh Canard'* iiiflu>*nce did not rereiva Ihn R o«v*mI bi« i^ird ten tlioaanBd t^ilnnta wai fxriiveo, oil. Yet ibil anine M>rvant «»bo wa« forgiven all «venl oul, aod iflnding a f«;llnw aoivant who nwed him one handred |»enrn, ho look him by the throat. at.d aaid — ** I'ay me that ihoa owrat.** I Now, propriftom *ny Ihiry have rrcrivrd rainiaaion of iheir Quit \rantf, yet ih>*y mill noi remit ona obilling of thi ir b.irk rrnta to Ihair poor lenunU. Tho anmercifal aervani iiieniionrd lo tha parable, cs^t l\u panr f^llnw acrvant iato pti.'un, .-.nd Y.-^ar Ez- ealleni lea knnw that at thia very moment ilin Jul in ihia city eontainn a miserable tenant ihruat in by hi* landlord. It coo* Uiiia a m in in ihe nnHt abject atate of poveiiv That old inaa waa arreatt'd by hit landlord, for the aam of JCSti, and throat iato jiil, thoMjrh it appealed he waa worth luiie more ihao 80 Coca. i.iM f'^rihly career, to.>, ia cloaing faat, and hia gray •M ore rapitlly d-er-nd!!?* le ths traib. .Aecardisg ta tb« ordinary cuarae of natare he woohl auuu go duMrn to lb« grave, ■•d bo ia being haatoaed Ibitbar by a waaiing diacoao. There I Jill [' THE LA5D C0MMIK8I0N. 3Cn i. »! Im Km, at ikb vary nooMni i« iImI elM«fl«H prnon, like ih* MTvaai aiaaiioaMl by oar iia«ioar,an4 k** waa aeai lltcrw hj ilia ••• «bo elaima ta kata racaivad raaiieuia frooi kit lord. Uul i kapa ikai old maa will li«a luag anuagk (o appaar bcfora a UilMiaal of kia coaairjr, aed if »o. and tka eoaraa panard againal U'mm eaa ba luiaraiad in ikia Coloaj, ika lloata of Am mMy will ■aiH all Ika raprubatioa wkirk may hm eaat anon ii, miiiI tka tiOM akuald al ane«t arrive for il to ba ralorinud or aintlMlixd. Talk ol tkw Island pnMparing '. uik aboai lU popaiaiion iitcreaa- iag ?— Ifara ika Coanaal for ik« pntpretora ovoritiukud (ko fiiri Ikat Ika |>toprMary ■yaimn kan drivea away yuang inoa Irum iMi Icland .* Voar Kiccll«ociaa niaal luvn noiicad ik«t fad llial {•• kava aaen bai faw yaang Mi«*a in ilna I'ruviiiea. Among tka ir|o crowd* arkick appvarad baforo yea kara, al hi Ijianur'a aM at (JaiKgalown, kuw many ynung man did )oa ao*« f -I aaw kai vary faw. Tka aaarinblagaa wrre alwa)* comp«ft^ lut th« graatar part of man ba)ii>»d ili« |»rinio uflifa. VViik nKiiiy. lim aaa af Ufa waa ovidaally aaliing. 1 accoaniad fur Ilia fad uf llMra baiac only faara )oang iiinn prnaunt a( iknaeplacva «liuia ya«r Etcallaaeiaa upnnad yoar Cuart. by ika maaa uf f \ idnnca wkiek wa raeaivad on ikia numi : ri:. Ikat llm landanry nnd afbet af iha proftrietary ayaum waa lu drice yoang »»*•» a«%ay frMB Ikia lalaiMj And wkenyoar Ksonlluocifia com«> >«• pot • valao o« ikaar -Id mon'a farina, I would have )ua r«•*» tViil* xll r.«v ivnal •xltMVM titnx l< .»• alliMM* ■•••••> - . • ■ t ' - • br««tk.for ike phre where wetipeiiltiur infant da}a,—fi>ritt«'ae wa ■aal aiwiya ckeriak a watm a(r»<*iion. All other f<*vlifg4 and aaatimenia may change ; huarta nhich once loved ua ma) grow cold ; and lipa whirk once gave ex]ire»?ion to aeniniieiiia uf Imraily may afi<'rwarda ulier lan^^uaca oftrfaaon, but the f«eliiig m palriolMin remaina onchantin^ 'and um h.iiig«*d. \fter llA kaltlaa and Xoriii* i»l' life k ive beitn e;ir.noiiter«*d, with oiiiotlona of pleaaare a m.in looka hack uiid {•'rfqrta n|rK, ton Um room wliick death fir^i viaiied— the riM»iii inlu whirh he firat Mtarad, and. wlieie he hrld hia aoiemn aiurt over a hrothff or a aiaiar, aad did n )| retire till he had If ft a pale r the day* ufhi* youih pas*' W at huma ; bat when yoa aee yoanf men witk liea m^^u ^^ Ihaae withtie«,;lM rc«<«iiibianca ol' whirk nothing bat the cold- ■aaa of tha grave ea« etfac«s abandon their home*, — whiagb aoaitblo of ■aaay ahorteominni in ibo managemant of ibia eaaao,atill i woald aiacaroly traat Ihat^ nciihor by ibo (tovernroont of ibia Colony, ■or by tha tenantry, ahill I bo eoncid«rrd derelict in my doty, ar that I haro ovenieupod (ho buanda \%bieb ihey amigned ma M their Cocn«ol. U I have, I can only aay that I did not intoad la arr, oa (he oi> >id or on Iha other; and to leave the raao of ■y elienta in the handa of yoor llicplleocieo. I do aoi ataaA balbro yoor Cirelleneie* aa an advocaio of iaoiaied riglita. A graal eooatitational qacation, involving intoreeia of a great nMg- aitado, baa boon di«rne«od. Bnt I feel tliat I am addremiaf CNitlamen who will inabo every sMowaoeo for abort-cominga. awever far abort of my dety I mey bevo come in tha nianaga- •aat of tho eaao of my clivota, I havethoMii«ractionof bnowing that I can recommend it to yoar mott favorable conaideraiioa. Indeed, the caaao of my ciicnta la rerommendod to yoar KacoU taaoice by the hiaheat uoaaible brief— th«Hnripi«rMe—rAr it •« iH« aanM of (he widow and tho orphan— «if tho opprcaaed againat lha oppreaaor; it ia the caaao of ih4t God who baa aaid in refar* aaca to espatriatioo, which haa driven and held yoong men away from their humeo, and which ia wor«o than deaib— for iwbora daatb cornea and aeisea hie victim, he ia boried oat of oni eight aad wo aipcct to aee him no more ia ihia life— bnt wo do aoi aipact to aee nor relativea travo ue for foreign li n no mora to latara; thereforo tbo Almighty haa aaid — "Wtj-^o not for tha daadf neiiher bemoan him: bat weop aora for him who goetb away, for ho •hi«ll re(arn no more no •€• hia native eoaatry.** Tboro ia an it>pri*M declaration of iho Almighty iiimaeli in relet- anaa to aipairiation, and employ in|| that laii||aago I preaeat Ion with the bigheat poaaible brief. I again repeal, thai owevnr great my «hortcoiiiiog« may havo boon, I fool (hat year Kicellenciea will not allow them to weigh anfavorably apinat myaeli'or my chenle: ao with perloct contideneo I ieava ibsir oavo in yoar handa. I do ao with tho hope and ^wnfidoaaa that thia qaeatii n ao long agitated in thia Island will ba. by yaa, for aver aot at re«t ; and thai the homea over which tbii draa4- fal proprietary ayatem haa been hanging aa tba ahadow of deaili, will aooa ba readarad paacafai aad happy and proapaioaa. I mr TBI LAhO COMMISSION, 303 k«f« ymir EiealUaciM will arffiv* ti Mch eoaelatioM •• will bring lM|«piii«M and pro«p«riljr to Prince £«4vnri Islnadf to long ^ialiaeiod bjr onhapfiy fenda, iho ofllipiring of tbo ptoptiour)' tjo- '^mmt. { l«aad a ppla mo. ) ir C0UK3EL PALMKR 8 TLOSINO ttVEhcn. May it ploaao vnar Eicellancica : — In rnmin* hrfnrA vno. I m»j ttaio that it will b« imitofsiblo for ntei at ihi* Uio lM>ar, to diachargo all iheduiira aaaigned ino. It liaa liirn juoiiy obstrved bj th« laat speaker that iliia ia • great coaatiluiiunal qoriiioa. It ■adouliiedijr intulvea great quemiooa both of law and facta. At it will bo iinp«>Mibl« fur nco now, htiwever. in go into tho jadieial and other bianchea of tho nuljecl, I intend iu bo aomo- what general in my remarka. A* regaida the poaitiun in which IIm Colony itanda to the Trown, let mo direct )our attentioa irot to tho Act of 14 Vic. Cap. S, ^hich haa an imprrinnt bear* iog opon ibia t|«estitfQ. Tho iir«t part of the preamble of thia TCt roada that:- ** WHoroaa on iho Thirty-firet day of March, in tho year of o«r Lord Ooo ihooaaud Kighl! hundred and Forty -nine, that part o iIm Civil Liak uf l*rinc*t r.dwnrd Island wliich had previoualy bona borno and paid by ilit^ liiiporial Governaient, ceaaed to bo 0O paid, and tho lluoao • I A«aeuibly of the aaid Inland, by aa A«C paaoi^ on th« Twenty •isth day of March, One thnuaand Eight ho.idred and Fifty, .igrced to make proviainn for tho pay- II 'horotif, provided the liuit Itenta, Crown Lsnda, and Per maoont Roveoota belonging to tlia t'rown, in I'rinco I'.dwani! laland aftireaaid, were aorrt'iidercd nnd placed at ^ho diapnaai of ibo Logialatore thereof, and ail the Moneya ariaing iheiefroin paid iolo iho Troaaory of thia laland, and that n ayatem of Ro* tpsc::b!w C^VvfutuMMt, •iuui«i lu tiiai ouw in I'urcn in mo I'ro* vi««et of Canada, Mew O'unawick, and Nova Hcutia, ahould b« Kantod to, and ratabliahfld in thia liilitnd.'* ow, thia Act, or at loaat portiona of it, wae diaaliowed. It W«a permittod to go into operation, but tho Hfcret«ry of fltata for tho Colonioo recommended the l,egi«lature to pnae a diiTereol ••« oa lh« followeiig year. Arenrdiii^ly in 1852, an Act waa ^aaod in amendment of tha uthor, tho 2d and 3d aoetiona of \fhieh road aa followa:— IE. And bo it enacted. That nothing in thii Act or the aaid raeilod Act contained, iihall intend, nr hi* ron«tru«MS to e«t«>nd, to provoni the grant, aalo, leaao, or dififioaal uf any of the vn. granttd landa la thia laland, by or on behalf of tho Eiecut^a Qovorismont thereof, and in the name of Her Maj^aty, her heira •ad inee»4aora; bat all each granta, aalea. Ieaai>4, or diapoail of •aeh angraaled Landa.and the iiiaoMgniient and contruul thereof* iriiail romaia and bo inveated in the fiovernment of thia luiuode •a bahalf of Her Majeaty, her heira and aoccea^oro, or in aoeh Otftcere a« ahall be directed by aisy Act uf tho tioneral Aaaeiitblv •f thia laland horsaAer to b« paaaedtand tho not pruceeda of aaon graala, aalaa, Icaaea, or diapoaal of aach ungranted landa, ahall, aiJar dadacMiing iha aapaaaaa alloadani apoa Iha aMiaagaaioal 304 TBI LAUD OOKMOSIOH. tlMrMf« b« paid ioto tha Trmtmrj cftliw loltad, aad an teeoanl •rracli«sp«nMaihiill baattaaallv hid bafora iba (Jaaeral A«- MMbljT af lhi« lilaad; aad ika saM aipaa««« tbcll ba cabjaet la Um eaairoal aad rcgalaiiaa vf tha aaid U«aaral AManibly ; aad •a a(har «r graalar aHawanca. aaUry ar aipeaaaa ahall oa aay eeaacal b« ukaa ar iaereaMd ihaa aaeh at ahall ba ftiad aad allawad, or aaactiaaad bv ib« ««id (iaaaral AfMaroblr. 111. And ba iC «aaet«d, l*hal it ahall ba iawfa) for tha Liaa- M.<;^^: Ccv:r=~r •»• *-**•' Arftninlatrator of iba Govaramoal of llua lalaod for tha tima baing, bjr aod with tha adviea aad co»- aaal af Her Majaatj'a Caacativa Cuaneil thareof, from tima to lioM, ia tha nama of liar Majaaty, bar liaira and aaecaaaora, to araat, a«il, loaaa and diapoae of aajr angiaotad landa of tba Craarn ia ihia lalaad, oa aaeh te.nit aad ia aach manaar aa la kifli ahall aaam b««t and mnai for tha iatarcaia i>f tha iohabiuBta af Ihia lalaad, aad fur aach parpaaa, aadar bia band and aaal, la giva and aaaeala all aeceoaarj daada aad eonvayaneaa, — tha •ama baing mada, aavartlialaaa. ia Iha aamaof liar Majaalj, bar kaira aod aac eaa oora. Tbaaa '-itraela fraai that Ael abow tha'< Iha Crowa did aal wiali Iba C' y la ba ia a dtflbreal potitioa regarding the graatiR|;« laaaiag, ur diapaaal ef aagraaiad landa from what aha afaad m kiraalr. It ^ a fallacy than to aaj that tba Cotony raeaivad no athar righia arhaa il andertook tba payroaal of tha Civil Lial, Ihaa wara aaeaaaary la carry om Kaaponaibia (iovaramaal. llaw« I ahall advart lo aona of tba argamanto of tha laaraad Caaaaal oa Iba othar aida ia regard to the general qaeoiiaa. Wa hara aaeapy a pecaliar poaitioa, aa the argam«al of oar appaaaota ia, ** Do away with tha ayatem at any aaeriflea lo Iba landlord, bacaaaa il ia ubaoiioaa.*' Ta « honi ic it abaoii- \t la it ao to tha landlord i If aay elaaa haa a raaaoa ta iplain, il ia tha proprioiora. I think K eaa ahow thai thay mim Umi ita^iwJ p«*»7' Tlt« «i(i(a{&«&u maia s:c sf cs th* '*p- poaita aide ara theaa. Firai, tha propriatoro are barah aad graaping Bat facta apeak loader thaa werda, nod I reqaaat vaar Eiealleaciaa ta refer to year nolaa of tha evidenea broagbl before yaa, and aaa if the eondoci of iha landlord* eaa ba called **gra0ping." Oa every Townahip il appaaro there ara arreara af rant, and o* aoma theaa arreara aia very heavy. Why ia Um f Were tha proprietora enable to callsci tha rents ? 1 hay thiek Ihay caaM hova eollaeted them, aad ao alao do tha .aaanta. Naw, voar Eicallaafiiea, ia il aoi anraeaoaabla lo aappoaa that the fandlorda allowed thcea arreara to aceamalata ia cvdar that thay might have an opportaniiv of poaneing upoa •S>air taoanta? Tbia argameal af tha iaerncd CuhnmiI wIm Uat apaka aateaiaked ma ; aaraly ba haa not been correctly infotmod. la all ihm evidonAO hmfmrm jnmr ICi «JMa ihair laaaahoMa ae aay priaa, thai ia.ihaia who eaaaai aad il Tm LAND COMIIISSIOK. 305 J «!• Ml p«y «aj r«at« or very littlU i An Mm* pmiq* of aeqair- iB| roo«€j lo ■priag ap bjr magie, that ihav ara to obiaio tbia abililT i Wa maiataia that the raaaoaiag oi iba laaracd Coanaal ia fallacioaa. If tha lanania ara aaabia lo r^j my arreara, haw ara thay to affaet a paichaia of tba faa ^impla of thair farma, Aaotbar argaroaat of oar oppoaaata ia. tha eoastaat drain oat of ika Colony oecationed by tha traaanniasion of ranta to absaniaa pfopriatoft. Wa admit lo a carlaia attant that ihia ic a griav- aaca; bat oa tho other baad, what it to bRComa of tho parchaaa ■oaay if tha Inndi are told ' I prMoaia that ihoaa propriatora m>%u* »««Ula AM iK« lftUnrita. Coan. i*Ai.MKR.— Th»>n why t* ihia point to generally harped apoa, and prf <«cnt«re. Coan. Palmkr.— I am willinf, ihon, to diouiiM lhi« part of tba aabject. . . . Another argoment em|tlo)eil waa, (hat a good tenaal, who hna regnlnrly paid hi« rent, uliould come in lor a ahare of the opoil. 1 cannot aee that if the pioprieiora liava baea lenient, ami iiilowfd Nome |mrii«« to ion into arrears^ that ia any reaaon why they «hould he re<|Bired to loae in regard ta othem. t*uch an argument nmounia to nothing, or rather it woald pani«h the clvmenry of the pioprietor and foatitr eareleca* M«aa «IIU inUtlTcit iit.n IM tiiv. iuHillll. Alltillt«il titgMMti'i.t l^t thst tha profiriflora have not paid their quit rente (u the Crown, Iktrtfort ihcy ahould nut demand rent from their tenanta. Now, tkia ia the flul time thai I have heard it reaaoned that Iwo wronga moke a right. Admitting thai the ('ro«vn aa a mailer of graea nav have ween fit to give ap certain claimi^ on tha proprietora, ia ihat any «iiiand reaf^on that you Miioald now virlaally abatraet from tho pnckelA »f the latter, rent, that may be due them by their lenant^ Thia it no aoand nrcomnnl, either legally or otherwiae. If Iter Mnjeaiy, for reaaona beat known to heraelf, baa remitted toe qait rcnia due by her tenantry, the pronrietora, 4oaa that aay that ihe latter should forrender their claim for arrears of rent on pattira whw ha%« uothiug to do with thit re- aia«ion by tho Crown f CoBi. llowK. — 1 may direct yoar attanlion ta thia ; tha Crowa ranted iia land lo the proprietore for a certain parpooa, that waa to taltJa ihe land — not for individaal advantage. Tha Eropriatarjr ayoiam haa eagendered certain diapuiei, and tba rows :t ia said haa given ap ita elaioM to arraara of qait raat : ■ v.'U- 806 THE LAND OOMMnBIOV M r«|ard« ih* diapataa bMwM* U»4loff4 and lantat. ■hoald ih« propriaiiira not fraat aoaia Mch aimiiar raini«aM>a ? Cmi. Kitcnib.~D« yoa, Mr Palmar, uka joar pocitHM aa a point of law. C—n. pALMBa 'Undoabtadly thai ia mj poaitioa : iha WTMro of rant aro •omething whieb do not balong to tha paopla lMf«, and chuald not bo awapt a way wiihoat a eunaidvration. Thmy ara not tha prnportjr M iha tanant. thoagh tha Crown maj kava givao ap aouie arraara of qait rani da** by iha pfn|»ri«tora. Yoar Kiealhnciaa mast 9uoli on ihia qaaaiion aa one rniirrly ba* -J .1 :.. •k. Har Majaaiy *a (fovwrnment. or iha CuIoomI C«overnntrnl, aia not aoaearnad: that in lu aay, it i« in fact a bara qapniinn beiwaoa Iba propiialor and tha icitiint of iha prnnent day. «i>d. n* aarb, airicily within tha acope of ihin ruuiniiMiina mora valaabia aa they have paaaad to airangera in Inter timaa. and hava bean graativ •abdividad by herediiaty de««ent and oth«r««iae; ao that ■ow liia proprietary aatataa in many inatancaa aro vcatad intar* aata in many peraona, mala and feiiiala, ciHiaiiiaiing tlieir aola aaaaa of liv< >; tha tenania in very many cutm* being far mora •palaat tha . . ir ao-called landl«>rda. Vet thi« (?ourt ia aaked, baaae«« tha Crown of (treat ilritaia in former v^ara aaw fit in ita iMMBty to xiva ap eartain elaiina againat certain 9f ita tananta, tiM propriatora of thai day, — yoa ara raqaaated to f^-^forea thb priacipla on partiaa whoaa eircamaiaacea are entirely dilTerenl, aad where, ia easaa aueh aa i liava juat maatittntsd, it woald arark nionalroaa injattica.— It cannot aarioatiy ba eipectod that this Coart wtll give way to a mere popular clamor on ■neh ■araaaimabia prami aa. Another argoment of tlia laaroad Caaaaal ia that na Colony can proepar ander uaeh a ayataia aa ^*.ih.^ fcsrs, thcrcfsr; ;: ihzz'.l to s-.rcpt z-xny •• ?«-- •# paaaibla. la !ha Aral place, wo contend that ihia atatement ia ■at borne eat by facta, aa ahown by tha aiatioiica laid before yaa Thia lalaad haa proapered ia regard to popalaiion, and ia allMr reapecta, aa aeea by the retarna, ia a greater ratio thaa ika atbar Proviaeca. Ceon. Howa.— la what manner do yea oiake that appear f Coan. THOuaoif. — By ahowing that here the popalaiioa ia aaly 70,000, while in Nova Scotia it ia 210,000. Coaa. pALMaa.— Yoa, bat ihat Province haa a mach larger •raa — ia prnpnrtioa to oar area we ara Tory far ahead of yoa. A good deal of atrtaa waa laid by Mr Thomaoa oa the remark, Ikat tbev had not epportanitiae to jadge whether ihe retaraa kafere the Coart were cerreet or aot; bat tha Coaaael ea tha •fpaaitc aide have p oeeaaaad jaai aa great facilitiae aa ara bava ted* Bat I naal aow refer to aaoiher poiat. Raceiviag real Cw tba ftahary raaarvea baa b«aa atyM aa aa act of apolialiaa aad rabbery. I ■■•i aaj that 1 waa aatoaiebad wbaa I b^ai4 TBI UUfO CUMMUWION. 307 ) I t ( tkM •iprMMoa. Now, I •« Mtiti«4 ia rtgard Ir lb* proprtt- tor*a right to tboio. Covn. IIbhslkt.— I omloritoodi that Iho Sah&tj roMrvw troro not In bo takon int«> tho argomant toilaT. Coa. RiTCHiB.— Had jroo ool bailor lara joor auoalion It tho do*|Mfch^a. Cooo. PALaiBB.— I ihoo^hi ii waa my datv to eorroet aoj alataineala which wero mnd^ by tho Coonool for tho lonaotry. I ma«t refor lu what baa boon aaid aa to ibo poiiiieal inflooae* of landlordu on thia Ulaod. It haa boon advncatod thai on ao> COOHt Ol thia IllllUOnCO, liia piupaia»««^ ■^■Movernmenl— and I OMy add a popotar leader— op|Mt«ed tho qaeaiion of Boehoot, Othera, however, atrongly advocated tho oaubliabmoat of ft Coorl of Unaoiry. Hon. Mr IIowb.— it ia quite poa«ibto thai Ihero havo booa paraooa ia tho i^gialataro who have advocated tho oitromo viawa of tho toaaotry , and obtained their alociion throagb that MMewa , Umc (Iu** •; Mwi ^ccs.- u >«u it^i i*.l :h:: gzzi ta shsrr iha ovila of tho ayatem i Coan. Palm am. — I havo advortod to lho«o proeaadinga of polilieiaaa ia proof of my poaiiioa thai iha inflaanco of propria- tara caanol hava been great or groollf aiortod, or aach moa troald aol havo booa chonen .la Iho repreaooiaiivoa of ibo poopla; Ibaroforo it eanaot bo held aa an argantoat ta aboliab tho loaaa> iMid ayatom. I ahall now refer yoa to a Daapaicb of tba Colaaial Miaialor, ander dale of Oca. tl. 1855. Tba 'toaaJod- lag paragraph of that l>«apo/%*« #nfV- » ; 306 TlUB LAND COMMIflRION. New, Ik* opiaiM 9t thm mamrkf of Um IImw, which p««m4 Um T«Mals* CooipcttniiM A«l, — aad ihat • majority whieh 4ii MS Ml ihabicliMl vaIm apoa Uads— waa. thai lb* propriclM dM«M baj ap bit owa laad from iha iaoaal at 20 joara porcbaao •f tho diflornMO botivooa tbo Origioai cad iba improvod taloo of Iho laada; aad Iba Colciaial MiniMer of ibai day apuaarod to Ihiah that aa aqaal anooai abcald ba oAared to iko laodlorda hi thak raaarvad raaia, or ihai if ii vera ofl«r«(d f«w of thoa woald aol aecapt aaeb tarma. Tbia waa tha view of Ifr Labooeboro, and aaraly ha caanot ba daaoniiattad a pr«jadiead s^^M. Hcfrrr •—-•••- ••••• »»»««»*.it nt iIm aMKiM** I wmwIJ ««i» Ctmr Eicailanciaa lo raMamlMr tbai iboagb tba lotaehold ayatea obooiioai la tba paopla of Ihia lalaad, ao correct inforaaca agaiaat it oaa ba dirawa from tbi* fact. Facu apeak ioadar Ikaa wordo. Look at tko evidaneo of diaiotereaioJ pariiea wka kava eama kafara yoa : aad yoa will aaa that iha gnevaacaa of tka taaaatrv ara mora imaginary ibaa reel. No doabt eootrary •latamaata have baaa made by the Ualefalaa who have appeared kaforo ikia Coart : bal tbnir evideace dooa aot fairly repreaaat Ska gaaeral atata of i lie coaatry. (Jam. Gray — Whv aa ^ Caaa. Palmia. — llAcaaaa iboy have eama from tb» parti- ealar parta of tbo lalaod wbrre thoro have l>eea tha woral c%§mt -tba poorcat aad miat clanioroas oaly have pr a aaad theowelvaa .,nm iba Coart. It maal ant ba and«ratoad, however, by mw raoMrfce that I daaira a eooiiaaaacc of the preaeal atata of thio ^■aatiaa, far I wiak tkat the leaaat ajraiem were done awar with;— >»Si«a of tka Propriottira, I believe, ara particalarly wafl- dad ta it, if tbay gat aa eqaivalaat Rat what ia tha atatamaal af tha HoM. Mr Aaderaoa, who io not ia aay meaaora inlaraalad ia thia qaaatiao? Ha Mja ha baa beea told by tbo poopla thai thay have fbaad it bmw« prUtabla lo bald laad bv laaaa tbaa la parehaaa it. Aad rireeroata|eoe— each aa tha alow aettlemaal af tha CrowB Uada go to p«^a ihia autamaal. Tha learaad Coaaeel. Mr Thamaoa. maiataiqf that tha laad ahaald ba valaad aaoardiag to tho aeiaal receipta of real. Wa deem liiie p ro p a ailiaa alia^thar abaard, baeaaea it woald ba takiog advaataga 9t tka agitatiaa ia tka coaatry agaiaat tha propriatara aad tha Jaymaat af real. l*ha laadlord ia moat oaaaa woald hava aa iflkalty ta eallaat hia real ; aothing woald raqaira lo ba doaa bal ta ga lata tka bara-yardt of bio taaaaia, whara it eoald ba akuiaad ia praferenea la any oikor olaim wkalaver , if he|c h oaaa la aaferaa it. Aad if proprioloca hava aot doaa ao,— if they hava ■at iaaiaiad aa their righta, aheald that be n«ado the baaia of a volaalioa of land. I will aow advert to the ata^oaaal fraqaeatly HMda before year Eaeallooeiee, aad ukaa hold of by the learood Coaaaal an tha othar aide, that the yoang maa ara drivea from Ika lolaad on aceanni af ike laaaekold ayalom. Yua maal ka- wara, and aai ka miaird by thb argaroaat, •• it Iciehea Iha •rmpathiaa af meat kaarta. Namkrra of ycaag man kava laft tka lalaad la aaak wealth abroad, bat maay af Iham hava ratam- ad end baeoma aantaniad aaitlara. It ia ia a? Idaaea bafora von that ynaaf maa in tkia bland ara aaoMlimaa a littia ineliaad la ( « THI LAND COMMIS8IOK. 309 Vt hm aWv« xhmit Wm't—m TIim m eliMfly b«ca««i iImjt hiiTa na- j«f«i gTMtar •dvanltgM ihta their partaia' •l!9y hava rrceivad a Iktla adaealion, aad hava baaa raarad on improv«ii farma; railv I hay fael it a hardship lo go and commcnea for raa w iho forrat Thia diaiilia to actilo on now farmat I tad iIm want of mraaa to parchaaa improrad properiioa, hat aaaaad anif ration; bat thia it aot paealiar to oar Uland.^it ia |i| iIm aaaia ia all iha coloaiaa. What, then, doae thia emi«ratio« 1^ prova agaiaat iha proonetary ayatem f la it mora freqaenily iha eaaatrjr .' We coaiend it ia aot. I will now tourh ua tha qaaa- tiaa Of I'aehaat, aad give yuar Eicali«noi«fa aoitie r«rereneaa la aid yoa ia voar iavaatigNiiona after yua leave thia Itiand. Great atrc^^ wll1llB6I0!r. rm«; for rma, Imi ilia lioa ih« in* •••• l« r»a| that into *•• wat laka iMtraetMNia lo aappc aaa ilia alava tra4a. Ha htd aHava froaa tto Calaaial (auvaraor of Siarra l.aoaa to libaraU aaaaa Briiiali aab- jaaia hal4 in alavary. IU aecordiagly daalroyad iba barraooa* •fa Spanish slava-daaUr, muv« in hia raw eaafca. » .J fraad liia sagroaa. 841 ia aaiiib«>r. For tkia ka waa proaacatad ia ib« Eaglialt Coarta by Uaroa ika Blava^daalar; and it waa aacaaaa* fallf conioodad un babalf uf llio dofond^al , lka<. allhoofb at tkm lima iba dafeadaat had na oipraaa aaihoiiiy fraan tba Briliaii Goverantani fat all thai ho did, |at. inaamaeb aa hia prn e aa d inga had baoo •iita Spoarman'a tatlar, ona of tbo qnaatiaM ii, whatbar paymani of Iha Canmauiion al any tima within Um raapactif a parinda of 1 and 4 yaara, ia an antii n aequiiul »r all Sail rania ratroapafttivaly, aa wall aa proapaelivaly. la giving M daciaion of tha Lorda of Iha Traaaary, Mr Spaarman, in an- ■war to thia, on iho 4ih April, I8S8, cooaidara Ihia qnaatmn no applying to iwo dialinal claaaaa of arraara.^Bral, lo Iho arroaro daain ISS3i and aaeundly. to tboao which might ncernodM •Aar tha aipiralion of Iho Ael, dnriog tbn period of eatumaU- THE LAND CX)IC]I18810M. 311 I) i M' liM. I« aMWMiiif tlM first part nf lb* qa09titt«« h* Mjrf lh«( it appMr« to iIm l.ora« that ih« umnrt <|ii« in IS3S, wlion tlin Aet MHM into ofAratioa. matt ba eonsidrrad •«» bnv bern reinillad kj aalboritjr of tha daafialck of 14S3; hvi iha renin thai mifhl aaeraa •fiar the ai|firaiion uf iha An NliunM not bo rt*uiiUrii«— Tlia( ia iha Iraa 04MMiracti«ia Mr Young'i* U'IIac n^nnot allar Ika Nialiar at all; ha waa ciiatandsng far iIki wliirh thn ron«lrne» tM« woakl nut baar, and wa are nut biiund bv hia lalier. It haa baaa alatad alto lo ynar Kicellrncian, that ilia (^Karin of Law baca ara aider Iha influpuen uf (ha prti|tri«'ioifl. I rruudiatn ihia •atiraly.aBd pmnonnca it tn be a libel on tlic <*ourtii or iliu IttUndt I eaaaiil mIIomp it to pam wiihoui an uriiun!tli*>d doniiil Th« aaaartMB wa* made in ilio niher Couulv i«Kiiiti*t lli*« Itia Chief Jaaliee, end ite\er wax thi>re a nior<* unfotuidiMi inoiiiu.tlinn, — it •nanatea from %erjr corrti|i| uiimh; and iIih Mihn iirnt tuna ihat i< Wia ever heard of, in iliia ColiMiy or i'lr'-wlitin*. Com. llowB. — 'rh«>r«* i« no orca«ion !«• reft^r lu ihi*. Tha lata Thief JuaMca i« nbuie rvrviving .iny irtjary rioiii n «'il«niunt oflhia kind. The fnrl ihii im imput.-tlKMi viii^ ilirown mil .iKainst Iha Uar of ihit Inland, m firtt iiir.do nti iiiiprt-MiMtn on my mind; bat when Iha lion. Mr I'.iliiifr niiiu HtrA itl lf-r» (It* oilw^r dny and ■ta(«^ Ihil h«* iifver r«>lu> d % n-tiinrr rMiui a Ifiiitiit. I nin diapi»d to aitnrh im itiipitrtiitro la liur i iinrtjii iiindt^ ogiiual tho lagal K»nllriiirrt (if ilm <'«i|iMiy. Cuu.> I'ai.mkh. — The ('(•un*'nl on (ho upii'^xiio nidi* hwvo en< daavof'-'l lo prove ih.-tt ilur proprii inry M)iit«-iii in llii.^ t'oinny hue baan ih.u irlt'iix«.-d bv ojiprcii'ion, ntid no doul>( ili(h«!rdiy, in pio/irta y{fn):ii! of «int> 'IVrronca Carragher. Tlii^ pur<«on c,ini<) Irom ii linrUwnid ptrl of iho eoeniry, Miid oiiu iiili.-ihiifd hy prop o who h:(V«* inido gwni fi- •rtinn* !•• o|d Ibat all bfnifitt nriairg fiom it will flt)w to tlio l.'otunial (lovfrn* ■laat, and«;r (ha Act uf 16 Vic. c. 3, by whi«-h thn Murrnndnr of iba Crown lands and permanent rvvt-nuoN of tho Trtuvn iu this '% Island ara coufirmed on liiu imrodurtion of l(e!«uonHiM** (•ovorn- *( BMBl, bat even ho, ilieru is no law by which liic local (jovnrn> ■Mai C9aid tah« advnningA of the condiliuoi uf tho origiaai S12 THE LUTD OQMMISaiOV. Cala, !• tvhieliii m mi party or pmy; tkw« it •■ >«ilMrtiy tliis |M«i|»M is 4 K««r« CoMMMUnM, ■■4 MrtaMl^ if llw •••ailioM of Um Graala mf broliM.tlMt* caa ka aoamic««MM af a eaa^iiioa braliaa. Aa4 H adaiita of gfaai daabi irtka caa- 4ilioa lo aaltla iIm Ua4a villi raraim PrataMaaia ia aM of haalf •baalalalj voi4, siaaa aa alias eaaM aal koH FraahaM Iaa4a ar fvaa laaaakuld for firaiiag parpaaaa. 4 Coka'a Raporta St, Aa. baaidaa, iba Loeal L#f i«Utara baa all aloag by variaaa alaialaa raaafaiaad iba \»h4* •• balaagiag la iba praaant prapri a iata. 9a« Iba Tawaabipaad Coaaiy Boaarfary Act, 4 Will. IV., Cai^ lir TImi Quit RmI Km ttt A* GfMk. Ill: e. t. Tb« WmmA Pmm- Kwtiea Act af 15 Vie. e. I. aa4 BMay otbara. Agaia, tba ipaleb af Lord nodcrteb ta Liaai. Govaraar Voaag af Aag. 1, ISSt, rafara In a Cuaii V lUebaat with ralactaaca. ataliag iImI it «*■■ abaadaaad ia T iiu)ar Calaaiaa. aad oiaiaa ibat Iba Cfaara woal4 aatar eoaaaah ;> aaaaftU iba mi«4« af iba Talaaiala Ibarabf ; aad agaia ia a lata? daapaieb fra« tba aaaM paria to iba uma, dalad tOib Dccaoibar, 18S4, iba graai 4a aasigaad far diaallowing iha Act la aaeoaraga aatilemaai aad ragalaia iba Eochaai Qaetlioa, ara ibat iba nrilia« beiura eitad , ara nut lha«a daa palcbaa biad* lag an all pariiea inlareatad ia ihia qaaaiiaa? Aad it may ba ibal, ia viaw of ihoao vary daapateha*. many propriaiary tiilaa luiaa ehang«d handa for valaabla coatidnralionB; aad yal yaar Csecllcneiea ara a*kad to tat ihanl all at aaaght. Agaia, il-ia vary qaa«ti«iaabla whaiher tha candiiioo ia iho origiaal graau la »ettla wilb foreign Protaalaaii is nal m aoint af law ■baalitaly illiigal and void, baeaaaa if it ia good lor anytbinf , t braaeb of it woaid abaolaialy avoid ibo aetata aad dalMi tha rat, it ia nat maraly vnidablo bat void. Ca. Liu. tli| baaea, . Iha graniaa failed avaa in aaa sattiar sbarl of tba aanbar withia tba limitad lima, hia graat ia vaid|ibaa what ie ta bacait •f all Iha aibar praviaaa aattlara to whom bo may hava aoM ar loMad thav Mra withoat aay tilla and laaa iheir land, thia aaa- dMon weald ba in aflad a condilian agaiaal alianation. .H-^r^. */-.-'*«SW«rt,^».* A'rtBt^rWf^^ nn LAiTD oomumoir. 313 V ''i| ■I L IM, a CraiM IHg. I* rilBlftT ftlinYKS. ' TlMff«MmliMlbribMpanMMMiallM«ricuMlfr«»l««r«tr • 4ifWwit Mlira tad i«?ol»« 4iflW«»i q««tiott« wtiraly rwm Umm ImI «»4m diNMUM. tad Um Urdshipa mi4 !• b« ••(••M m llM l«Miiiry Willi r«c«»4 !• Umm rtMfVM tr* •N4o«blc4ly m&f iaMciMrr Um« rMl. TIm or4«r ia Coaaeil of lili Jalj. I7«T, 4irMiiH lb*** ro««vt!io«» to h% mad* i« ih«i fmata, w atreaJr b?f?f?th^ C**<;**. ** —»*'*• '<* ^"v* ^*— **'Y ur«i«Miv wrriad oil. Tli« rtwvaiioa ia inaartad ia aoma ifaala aai oaaaaaiad whli iha aaa ahofa at all, ia aihara iha fwai ia dapart- •d fVoai; ia Ael tha laaarvatioaa far fortifiealioai. and wMrvaa •ad aatal jarda. lie., ia ika graata witboat any diatiaci localiiT. claarly Iww liitia ioiporuaea wti •ttachrd lo Iham al Iba Tha two forma «f raaetvalina ara befwa iha joart, aad •Had by Mr Haaalay ia hia cloaiaK apcach. In Iha nr«t raaa it iba Crowa OMkaa iha Ra*«rve for ita oira ui« and dia- farliaa at Iba order ■aaal for liabiag parpoaca, and ia ibo trcond cara for ihat uf any af ila aabjaeioTof tha aama parpoaa. Now , in iha ftrai eara. « Iba Ciowa ioioadad to retorve fAc toil itulf, aad thua lo ^ravaat Iba Graataa from all acceaa to tha ahora. why woald il haaa liautad itaolf. aa to tba ato fo^r fiahing roeroly i and again n b«»ll Ibaa r«a«!rvad on itii^ wbolo iKlaad roait wnald ba perfrriiy not Miy aaoloa*. bat highly injarioaa. What waa to beeomo of ihoaa CU anfit for ftching parpoaM? if tha Graniaa could P<*t |>o«iefl« m, who was lo do ao T tho Crnwn could not. eirapt fur liahing parpoMtf, and waa it intoodcd ihat ihoy should rein«io wild aad •aaloaa foravar ; and ihaa aoltjHct tho tenant to oaelrM iulraaion and troablo t aoraly not. In connraing tli larraplad poaeea a ioa for very many yeara, a auflicieat naaiber «• eoataad, lo bar tha Crowa, aa matter what the uainra of the raiiaaa. Agaia, hiva aoi the Crowa and tha io«ial Got* II at all limaa raeogaised and ratified iliat poaoeeeioa by f«0^iviaf Ihv Qail Kaaia, aad ia liaa of ibaea tha Lead Aaaoaa- aaal from tha prapriatora aad ihair taaaaia for ihaaa var^ f TUb m ia avidaaoa bafora tha Cowl, fi^M th« t^iti- •14 um ns • 1. M 4t a^ia m t t Afttr OOMKUtlOHIB OftAT'S OUMIRO AOMUMC. Bmthf a«4 Q— HfM «f dM Bir; Mr lfla?Umi4 ivi ^^■■■■i sr liw Ooftniiw m Mr Cdtt ta4 OotiImbm oTHm L ^ Mi m a. aa« «f Ito 4!ArMt DvkgitiMi Ami iIm Tm la cloriH ^ Um prwMl iIm p«blk tiltiaft tf tliit CoarU lU C>«««iMnri immn f •Mptmt tm lk« M«ab«n of tli« L«|ii- lilw*. m4 to iIm Im^iu p«klie oms of iIm Itland, of all tMm •r Of toita. llMk ihMlu ftf Um pto«piiUii« witli mhkk Um/ ha v. liMiaiii la tkm airaalar oTUm Coart, aa4 afMad iafiraMiiaa. Tha Caaiaihaiaaata 4aaira •km la ralara Umv UmnIu la Praa pHataia wha bava e l u a r fally eaaM forward la Ua ibair raal rail- md feraiali abolraeia of iImw liiloa; aa4 wIm have tbowa a 4» pioiliaa la aaeara a fall aa4 frae 4iaaaiaiaa of iha oabjaaia ra» ■ijlltd la iMir jariadiotioa. Tm Um Tawaakifp Dolagataa iImIt aalaaMa iafaraaliaa arhioiiilMCooio tiMaka ara alaa4aa Ibr tka bava baaa aaablo4 !• |NH aaaa ibair Miaaiao; aa4 Iba CaaH daoira aaaaoially la ' ibaW aaaoa of iba raaaaatfal 4alaraaea arbieb baa •ara Ibak aaaaa of iba raapaa tf al 4alaraaea arbieb bi la Ibaai bv tba poopla avorj arbara, ud of iba ordo( «■ wbiali bata araaailad ia all aarla af tba labuii htvaviikai. bieb baa booa paii ardar aad 4aaar« ibaf Tba faal iaeWia af iba Majadfari Iba. Tbraa baadrai Ma a iar i a l a bata baaa wiibtba iraal aaaaaat af laal i aiaay aalloa t ad. binary al aaaalarf arbieb bava ariaaa aaaoidarad; aad il Maal ba ataailaad aad digaoiad. Tba daaaaMaiarj biaiar Iba a aiw U aa, aeaitarad aver iba aaMia Ilea far aaarl? a aaai ■Mil Im UmumA wiiM oara. iba lafal qaaaliaaa il Iba aaaraa af Ibia aaqair? aiaal ba gravely m paeali ■BV 2* ba aaaeaaary la apply aaab Ttwaabip a aMraoaarabiag wilbaai iba aid af aa aataal v •Mala ailaad. •»i«»y y la apply la iba paealiar airaaaiolaaeoo af I iaqaiaitioa ilMa iba Coaaiiatiaa, valaaiiaa* bava baaa ar aay ba !• Iba aMaaiiaM tha Caaa aaiaat forhoaraaaa aad waaM aaioia, apaa all ■aybaaai adf Iba aqbiM«« pi «■•■•«« vj ■•»■«■• isnvr •■« inv >rwii ariil ba iuitf balaaaad. Bai ia tba aMaatiaM,it waald ba oratioa. All ared that while tba righia of property will bo roepoet- ejiaiiiee praooalad by boaaei labor aad tba triala of life itiaMfit waald ba a gi oal abaald oeaar la dieiarb pravailt ar la ereata aa ■iwa rt aia la the Praviaea if eaytbiag Iha p aaaa aad baraMay wbieb aagki la Ibal Iba Iowa of tba laad will ba diarigardad I •Uv waald it ba a aiafortaaafif tba raMe aadarraaia ware baaTily •ai bafibly aallaa ie d by tba Prapiieiero, ar reeialed by tba Taa- •■ii. Tba CaiBBiiaatoaara, tbavelbra, baviag aa pawar aatil Ihak jadfBMal b dalivared la aaatral either Praprialara or Tea- Brga laaaaai a a aaiec. yaar'o raMtanaiaalii^ ialaalapriagaMt ba AkiriydaoMaded.aad •Hhll»b«ahaarfally paid « ' lapnagaMt aa AMyM •a thai aU pailiaa am: pailiaa SMy oiaad rala- ns 916 ItMMD iMMUlkmlXM* ih^j !• ««lb mkm fai Um man ftMm Mit jmr m Omf 4» Mw . MMkar UhMc s^t aauga W Um 4«la j whin it to q«il« a^ ^rMi kM bM« Iwm4 apM tW CcMiMtoMM by Um wim nag* •I Um tuqaky, aad Um Msgaiiad* af Um m U iw m at ataha. Ii to I tea bo^ of ifca CaaiaiHMoaaffa UMt ibaw will ka aai abl ai la aMila Um |iabifal 4tof aia arbiah, far (Marly a aaatary, baa ■Mriarf iU« paaaa mmi bafpiaaar af Um laiaaA. BbaaM aaab b« Ifca rraali, M will prabably aat ba Um laaa fraUfytoii Umi tb» ralMl haa ca«M froai Um baa4a af yaar fellaw aalaata. Aa )«ar r«li«w eoaalrymaa, Ibarafora, aympaUMaiaf wilb yaar 4iA- raltic*, ahcriaf yoar proapairHy, aa4 aaiaiatatf by tba aaaM ba|Ma •iM inii|firaiioiw, «•• aaracMij r*i|««M, iiM» *•• mm wait mUik e Iniiie*! iha liaia tbat Um Coaimtosioaan will raqaira M dalivav ikrit drciBiua ; aad ibal ia iba «aaali«a all parUaa will aat wilk ii«Mia«N; ■ ■■)*»?.•.?. fe^^•7>■>v^'-:^-v.^-■:^^:rt:;^;^,. U-^'- - '^<«.?i;,.v' r^W-'; J ., \X1I ^-J:-^ : mm IWm LUIX» OOMMISSIOK. 917 ERRATA. 9i •'4pf^' I, Till \m% from lh« I10II09, rMp, read, "In 1831. oata aold fur If. 6d. a buNhi'l; Miiioo tticn, iS^ey have riien '"' " ' to 2i. and even aa high .in 3'. 140, 16th line from bottom for M- VVilliama, read Patrick M'Uuilnii uf Lot:il. 143, 7th line from bottom, mntead ol wliole paragrapn read the following: — Mr Rattray. — Aa my rent riaea in lUd yeara to 2a. fd. an acre, and my eldcat cion waa abont to leave me for the United Htalea, I wiched to parchaae my farm in order to indaco him to atay at home, by letting him have 50 acrea of it. Hut I wai told I eanid not parchaae it fur icaa than £2 6a. an acre. Mr II. J. Cundall — Who did ao \ ^ Mr R.— Yoomelf, Sir. - Mr C. — I do not remember that ever I did. Mr R. — I ran bring it to yoar raeollection. if yoa 'thooee. [ Sit R. here entered into aa aiplaaatioa of ba eircamstancea. ] «• •« 118 TBI LAVD OOMMnnOV ftflt 144, SI Ua* tnm i»p. tmi'^kmi bwky ■ ik« Mighkir. kMl of ClMrlott«t«w«, %id mhtn a good oopplj of ■oot'« ^a bo oblaioo4» will •vorogo froM M to tt koaboU so tero. M M MiliMrroalop.— bMoo4or»hololiM, iroo4:— Mf a.— Froa ft to 7 ewi. will bo iIm goMrmI ■▼•rtgo of bay. Tbo avongo of mf owo will bo firoa 7 ewL to half a too. M '* 141b lino from (op iaitoad of wbolo aoawar ioawt ilm Mlowiog: — Mr R. — WImo I arrivod boro, aad for maoy yoara ':,T- : ' aftMwarda, tbo boat land« ia tbo aaigbbooriog Pro- viaeoa, in a wilderaoM ftalo, coold bo boaghl froa fta to 7i ttertiag aa aero ; aad if wo kro aot obligod 10 pareba>)o p«rowa inprovouicota, E tbiak tbal woaid bo a fair valaitioa. wppp mmm mfm^'^'i'm^m^mmmm^^^^m^mmmimma^m^^^^HK .Vf,f*^vV.-£-L'- APPENDIX iJiihtlb ■mm V;y; %i[ \ ' "^' -J, -^:& s * .!|...i, oiff;"*,. vr? ■*v.-''-'a'^^---S-|' v;!V.^=S"'-<^'- y ..■: i. Sf :',''?i •: ';, ■:■ -;*■■« '*<*;|;.; .4v I Tf>',t-# wMi vtow 10 oimImnoI ifiko toao ooMr oo4 , Aw Imvo iiiafctmJ Uw 4«*w i tviUi wiMob 000 hOTO OOOOtowOtlj OfMOi 10 Mbwli l» Toir Mywif iko lUtowtoi lipiii :— to IlinWwIiwofTMiMiiMiiMioi toio fTlMi w liwiililpib or ofcow ! •,>•• wwo w ok, ooi wh> Um mipiiiB wo two IHO W lOtOOWlpO, BOWOOflO 40 OOO N, WOt OHpOWO wf to 000 4if If toMOTf to Lm4w, kolWo iko loof^ ol TVo4o oa4 "^ ' ■> lo AoioM ITIT frooio wow iwooi lo iko wrofol ■oykoikwkptoijf TOOM§ OS W ioiwoCiko tiljr. A ffowrvoltoo of porio of wok lot w oiigki oliw* I ko fwoi oooooMffT for fcrtH wl iwi or poklio pot- l ooi ol IM oorw br o okofok oo4 tM«, ooi N fMTO BEPOBT or THB 84iy. A reterYation ia lh« granti of certain townahipa abittiag ii|ii)a Iho Ml •hora, oT ftUO ro«>t from hif h- watar mark , for tilt par|»«M«)fl of a fma fiahery. (A diiiinetioa in tbataroM ufthii re«erva(ion will be aAorwarda pointed o«t.) 4thly. A reaervalioo of all niinea of gold, iiUer and eoaia* •ilily. Tint the grantee of eaeh townahip ahoald aeltle ib« aariie within tea )<.ir« from the dile of the grant, in the pr>*|*«*iiiin u( uiie per«on for nv»>ry 200 Mcrea. That aeeh aetilem alioaid be Kur<>it«--«n forAt^n Pfot««tanta, or each fM>riiona aa hud rii«d«>d ia Biitiith America fur two yean priivi lUi to the dale of ihu graut. 6tlily> Tlint if one third of iIim liia>l «raa not ao aettled withia four yonra fr«m the dale of the grant the whole ahoeld b« forfeited. On theee term* (he orifiaal prnpriatore aeoepted their graiili, the falaod at this tinte It^ing wiihin the (lOTemment of ffevs Scoisa. In the year fullowing, 1768, the proprietorc peiitioaed th-it the r^Lind inighi he erected into a oeparate government, and prupo»<>d, in ord»'r lo defray the nipenae thereof, that that half •f the qoitreiiia which wtHiid not be payable until five yeara aA«r the date of the grant f i^mwly in I77i), ahould become pejrabi* from lat May, I7tf9 d the payment of the remataing half BMiponed fur 20 y*tra. Thie appliRaijoo waa ao c eded to by ii Miijeaiy'a Go%ttrniiient, and, in 1770, the Local Ciovainmeat waa erganixfd Hoonrdiiigly. One of the firat eeie of the Legiala- tare waa the taking into cnnaideration the nonpetformane* of ibt lerma end aiip«latieua ofllie granie. ■ ^ Daring the euaainf five yeara the qailranli w«r« Mt paid 49 •iipnJated. Ilaring the firet ton yeara the terma ef •ettlement, with relW- 4'ftea to popuhition, were eoniplied with only in tea tewoahlpi (lots IS. 21, 28, in, 84, Stf, 58, 57. 58, and 58); nine olhaid were partinlly aettlud* and 49 nr>^tected; bet io no ctie# d« th« •#tilMrii ui>urar to have been for* ign Proteatania. la 1778, ll ha vine b<>roiiie evYdnnl th-«t a fond di^iiendeat opoa the pajrineaft uf the qoitrt-nta waa eniirflv toe preoarioaa lo maintain Iha Lofai O'HttrnmAnt, Ilia Majesty a (tovernmeat, oif the applkatioa o^ llie proptietora, provided for the aiimo in the Anneal KfttmatJM^ commencing on the lat Jaoaary. 1777. Bat tha Lorda of Ikt Trnasary at tJie aaine lime direeted that all proper uaaai ahould he :iiken lo enforee the pa^meal of the arraara aod lb# •ceraing i^itrea't. The extent of csmpli.inre with tha lariM of aaitlaaMat In iIm raepaetive aranu mev ha gathered from tha fallawing raaalatiaaa paaaed in the AaMiiibiy ia 1787, SV yaara albf Iha giaala waia laaaed:^ •• l«l. Raaolvad, That it apaeara la ihte Haaaa, aftar ktviaf **faliy inveviigrtted with tho atricte«t atiaatimi, Mm aiataaf tha ** laada ia thia laland, that loia m tawnehipa Naa. I, 8, 8. 7. 8, 8, ««10, 18. 18, 83. 88. 44. 48, 48. 81. 88, 88. §7. 68, 80, 88. 88. **aad 87. eontamiag hi the whala 489.888 aaraa, hava nal ana "Mttlar reeideat Iheraan.** \ ¥^ IS ■ I .ft* ' ':! m IHU ^P-» •t LAND COMMiaaiONXRS. 9 **Ulj. ReMlT«d, That lot« or t«wnihi|M No*. 4, 5. 6, 11. •• IB, to. tl.ftS. «1,6S. 64. aod W, eoauiaing tog«Uier 24S.tU0 *' MTM, have odIjt livtween tli«m 3t fKiiiiliet. which. apiNi aa ** avaraga of sia paraant lu a raiiiiljr, aiitoaiii tu 216 paraona ra- ** aidiog theraoa, and ibat thaM iutt, tngKiher with thoaa abova ** aaaaiaraled. comprahwnd apwarda of onahnirof ihia Inland.** ••Idlj. Raaoivad. That loU or townihipo Noa. IS. 14, 20, *'M, S7, aad 41, comprahanding 120,1)00 aaaa, art* aritlad ra- "apacUvaly aa Tollowa; vis.. No. ISnina familiaa. No. 14 eight ** familiaa. No. SO nina ramiliea, No. 25 nina fHinilica, No. 27 ** Ibragoing avaraga to eootiat of 300 par«ona.** ** 4lhljr. Raaolvad, That ilia followinf luwnihipa ara aattlad ** agraaabla to tha tarmoaf thegrania; vis., Noi. 10, 17, 18, 19, «*tl, 24, 26. 28, S2, 82, 94, 25. 86. 87, Sd. 80. 40, 41, 48, 47, ** 48, 49, 60. 64, 66. aad 69.'* ■ ** Olhlj. Raaolvad. That it appaari to ihii llooaa that althongh Iha townabipa No. 7, half No. 12, No. Sn. and No 51 ara not ** fitlM aeoordiag to tha tarma aod coaditioiH of Uia granta, tha *' propriator, tba Right llonorabia Janiaa Mootgomary, Lord ** Chiaf Baron of Ilia Majaaty'a Court of Kichaquer in Scotland, '* iMa baan avar activa in hia aiartiona, and hia oipended larca ** MOM of nonay in ilia aaitlamant uf othwr lanJa in ihia laland* *'Alao that tha following peraona, ^Ir Edward Lewia aad Mr ** John Hill, propriators uf townahip No. 5, and iha lata partnar* **abipof John Cambridge anJ rorouany, proprialura of tnwn- •• shipa No. 62 and 64, bava iimda diirtirant atlampta to aattia " tham, baaidaa aipandingeonaidarablaaumaof monay tharaon.** Thaaa raaolationa wara. with oiliara condemoaiury of tha in* dniganeaa eitendad to the proprietora f.ir the nonperfurnmnca of tba aooditiona in their granta, forwarded tu Ilia .Majentv'a Gov- •raaaot, with a petition, praying that meaaurea nii4ht be takaa Ut eanpai tha pro|»riatora to falAI tba tarma and eonditiona of tka grsBta, or that tha aama might be nacheated, aod tha Uindi ra- grantad in amall traeta to actual aetllera.** la l****. (*<•• «*ar« mftnr}. tha anbjtfct of tbia petition wai takan into eanaidaration by iha Committee of the Trivy Conneil far Trade and Foreign Plantationa. tha qoiirenta at that time dat aoMnatad to £69,162 aterling, and on aoine of tha Townahipo, !• nM>ra than their aoppoaad vaioe. Ilia .Majeatv'a Government, daairona of ancoaraging the farther aattlament or the Colony, da- tarmioad to aeceptof a moderate commolaiion; and diocriminat- ing between the pronriMCiirji wbn hnd fvertnd ihemaeivua to carry oat the tarma of their granto, and thoea who had not, divided tha caaimatation into lour clatm>a. fat From aach Iota aa appeared to have (he fall complement of aattlara raqairad by the gr.int, foar yeara qniireiit wnn only daflaaadad. inatead of 32 yeara (namely, from 1709 tu I80i ; Bd. From aaeh towaahipa aa appeared to have on<^ hnlf tha raqairad popalation, five yeara arraara, in liea of aM duua np to May 1801 (88yaaro.) 8d* Frooi aach townahipa ae had batwaan ona-foorth and oaa- bair tba atipalatad popalation, nina yaara qaitraato, in liaa of all 10 May 1801 (82 jaara). uroiT or TB« ; i 4iik f VMI UMM Ml ■pp— rtf l» iLBf* ■MslaliM, It jMn ^ilfMls. « Iim tT all !• Haf 'ifti (ttf«M«.) fib. fmm llMM liMl •rfMf«4 wmm •mi ••ialMMto4« It jMii, is liM of all artaan %f la May Itil (tt jaaia.) Il taaa aal aaaaar Umi Um aasMMlad arraaia wara pait, aa4 is ItM Um L»fMaia«a pami as Aai far wmakkiMmm a Caart af ggcliaat. Il araa laac aapfaaat, airf avaa ba f a t a iCa C %m m h flka il waa ■■aliai rf Umi iIm Aal Biauliii aa aMaaatiBtf iliBffT aat an ai aaiiaaiMwi ai wa arwiaai faaarat at tin vataav, Mi al Um aartatptai MH aT Um raltaial AcmM m Ei^laat, rfMwa thai H ikk, aat k alaa l aaaa i a ihal ika iatal aaaaal araa ••var (mmmt4mk la Ika laUarf. la lt«t, tavaral raiiliiaBi awa paaMt bf Um AwiiMy. al a vaiy auaaa elMiaaiar, raafaaliaf Um Biiiaawnaaag a il aa^i i Um Aaii aa« a aUailaf Ad irat ialiataaat, aa4 paal Um Ladb- laiafa. alaa aaalaiaiaa a aai|Ma4i«g ateaaa^ Aa Aal waa alaa MaM4 far aafuraiag UM 4aa aa4 laigalar patMaai aC ilM ^il> •aai^ TiNaa lara Aala 4a aal aafaar la lM«a r aaairat ika Bayal aaMsl; aa4 praeaa^iay al war. wluali vara aaoMMaaal Mar Umis, vara aabaa^aaaily aarpiaiii. TIm afiuiiaa aa iW aabiaei af (^ailraaU aa4 aaahaal, 9m aaa* AUaat Waban i Um artgiaal giaaia, affaara la kava kaaa ••- fram ' Uhm la ItSS* •mi Um Jaaraali ar« UM wUl iiMaa, atiraaia fraa 4a0faielMa, hMa aa iIm aalyaai. la Itai, Um ^aiuaala Im4 baas aaoMMiwI ia Um pfa»heaa al flaw Braaawiak aa4 Naira Saalia. aa4 all arraara la ibal 4ala a|k la Itit. aa Ad far iaifaaMf a lai aa Iaa4a, aa4 * Um aalladiaa af ^akraaia 4ariaf ila eaatiai bf iba ialaad l^wlalara aa4 n ' ' aaaaau Tbal Aal ar aaa aC a •iaiilar ebavaatar, Uaaa^ bt variaaa ra-aa a aiaMaia ta«a la Iba ptarwii liaM.a Mria4 •t U yaata. la liU. Lar4 GaOarkb. Ums Calaaial 8aara! 1 * i J! r • m Hfita^. or mmIi m%fm»m» n» mmrm lnv« ••4 M applfaBiiMi •! ilM l^oml Uuvcramrai, it •lhM4 Umi m rK«t4 aC tmtk fymmtm o««l«l b« fi««4 im la ISSf, Um ^smUm 9t •• TMlMry RgMrvM** ktf«« !• atram* iapwUBM, aad bwaiait a prMMiMMt Mhjoet of «lMe««*in« i« ih« LmI UfHlaiara. la iIm Ot4«r w CtMscil KiMlar wbiak Uw •r%iaal fnaia war* iaaaarf. ia iIm («illo««i«g |K«*i«iiin :— * TiMt ia ariar \m i waa i a t a anrf aaeoaraffa ihr fislMfy, far ** wliidi auav par«a ar iIm Ulanrf ara r«»ii««ni«ail]r aitiiatad, ** tliara ba a claaaa m IIm |ra«t af Mrh lawaahip iU«i abai« upaa **liM aaa ■li e ra. Maiaiaing a rMvnraiioa of libafijf if* all Ilia ** Majaaijf a aaoiavia m a»M»«a*, «h w«(ii«m« wm • ••*.• m«I<*.^ *««• 4 iIm aaM lowNalii|H aiM of arrctiaf •U||«« aaj ry bnilliaf* for ijba aaid fi«harjr wnliia iba ii«- •• laaaa afM* faai tham kifb-waiar mark.'* TIm raaarraltna kara eiNiiamplil»alian ia tha aaaaa4 alaaa afllM mala, at4 Uia rigk af iIm im«int ia IlM im elaai wa«« ia i£i Croara, a84 litl b iIm l8lMi4 llMfa «ra« a* fltaiaia af LkMMliaaa aa aniaai Um Cftwa. TIm ipiaiitt af a^aaHy aaiiaaal aaaaial ia Eaflaa4 Ufa alaa ~ B«~«<* •• Hit aaa a n aa< Ja d a r iag aa Um aihar lMa4, UMl bf tiM teiiaa af iIm ffaaia. avaa ia llMaa anaa arlMfa ika §•• fcal aia raaa«v«4 far ika 4ia|Maal aT Ilia MajMiy. iIm faa ia iIm •M faal aavaftkalaaa vaaiad ia iIm prapriaiara* aabfaal aaljr la a figiN af aaar bf ilM Cnmm tm iha |Mff«aealar fWfm la Marcli. ltS4. Ul^ AaaawMv paMa4 aa a^A MmJimUft ralWriag la alMMUr ■ « !■■■■§ traaaaMla^ ia 11 ItSl, frayiag iImI Iha Iaa4t mmntwi ia iIm aavaral graala ht aha w li •ii4 glaba yatpataa, mmi "of aelwalaMalara, Migbl Im aaM. tmi Um pfo e aad* a^ i if |iri«ia< aaclaaivaly lar Um parpaaaa af MlaaaiKMi. Ta iIim ai4r»ia Ilia Maja«<]r'a aaaaal waa aaa* vaya^ ia ■ NMatli af Odab^r, aa4 ia iba fuilawiag aaaaiaa af ISM, an Act waa |MJaa4, **la aaibarisa iha aala of Laa4a ia Iba Ial«a4. ra«anra4 aa •*8ilaa far Cbafcbaa aa4 far Glabt ta4 I Ua4«.** TMt Ael raoiiad iha raaartaliaa ia Iba arifiatl graaM aai Hit I 4iraeUaf iba aalaa, aa4 ibaa y iih aaJa4 la 4a> MvjaMy'a a dara iba aM4a ia wbiab aacb Mlaa thmmti ba aaiMlaalaii, aa4 iba lilMa gifaa. la Ikiobar smI N«««mb«r ISM, niaa af ibaaa raa mtm nM4a aa^ar ibia Aai* aa4 4aa ralaraa ibaraaf Iai4 balWa Um Awaaibly bf iba Liaa l aaaai Qavaraar ia Pabratrv ItM. Il 4«aa aal appaar ibal aa|r abjaaliaaa la ibaaa pnnaai* fng^ tsrsrs ctm «•< llMait a« lacaaairy, aar araa aat Ibt tm ia aaeb la w wtUaaa ba4 i Mf (IM ^**|Ni«uira, ar aaj by ■■ c haal ar aibarariat f«iaa4 by aay party Miaa4 ia iba Ciawa. la ITtt t aaobar al iba ptaa ri alaM akaa^ taJ iaiiwttni la Lar4 NacUi, aaa al Kit Majaaiy^i P tiaiiga l tt w t l tiitt al tttlte Ibt Mlaaiag paaar, via :— *« Wa Iba aa4afa>«aa4 ar aa ri alaca tl laaJa la Um Calaay al tC Calaay ** iaba, baiag imtmm&i i6ai maay al iba Ui a fa n al ff a« Tark «* aralar a aaiUaaMal la Umi Ialaa4 la aaa M Navt l aai k , ta4 '*babig vary ^aairaat tH aaaaartgiag aaeb t gralartaaa, aa4 aC ** aibHiag aa taylaai la ibaaa iaa r iiag f al l aw aa bj aaia, 4a aa- '*gaM far aanalvat. m aa tUaraeaa for albara. la grtal aa art ** baM al Iba Craara, aa4 ia iba aaaM p raaa it laaa It aaab laaiilv ** ta Iba aibar layal aailtraala raaaiva ia (lava t talit» tat f aaiia layal **al Um ^aaaUiy al Iaa4a Blaaa4 *«UMy abtll fteaivt a|Ma tatir arrival tl ** pllaaiiat la Um Uavaratr tai CaaaaM : aai ibal Umv aMy ra- ** aalva tbt aai4 laait ia ibt Ibirati aa4 aMai bapaititl Mtaatr, '*«a «ai 4ivtti Unt Um wbtb ba 4hriiti bf iba ■arvaytr by t^ I ulmd ooiiiua8:oviB«. m :7. «« I: a (figMj) I hm pMMb tf Ml i«i iIm 1,1 4ra«««wbf katkiWlw«ilMOM«nMrM4CMMil. U •ipcMMd wf Jmm lojral MMgrtMia, by M« ••• h»w %m (kUmH —Uf Mr Lu4Am mM giv« iMlrMliMa !• iIm Cmi- ' d* Hi* llajwiy'a tatrnt %l N««r Ywk, l« **fiiiMli Mdi l»f«lMU M fmfar • MUltw M l m flaial JoIm» ** villi ftmwtmm awl itaM^MU !• Mrry ibMi !• (*H«rlMi«io«r», ** m4 avary sUmw MMMtry iMb m m gtvM !• iImm wIm g« i« ** IfoM Sooua : awl tbai yMr Lanl«tii|» will iIm fiv« Meb i»- ** aUMtiM* !• Um GovacMV af tiauil Job* aa wJl dUm aaeb ** awyaa f ia avarjr iaa|MWl •« a aimilar foAliag «tib Ihair ** brauirM wba aaiila m Nava tieoiia. Tba aadarM||M^ ara Um ** Mam aaaloaa ia |KoiiMHiag Ibia inaaaarat aa ib«y ara |Mf«««4a4 *• il will |raail|f advaaM tba praapafily of aa iafaal CoUnv, ** «bicb« Tiaai iu aalaral aa4 rvlaliwa aitaalioaa ia paealUrly ** adai^aii la bac u aia a parmanaal aad valaabia poi w aaiiea la ** GfMt Briuia. Aad ibajr ooaMa ia year I.ur4«hf|i*a wiadAm ** •mi a^iaily tbat yaa will abiaia for ibaiu aaab aa ■balamaal af **^iiraal aa will |»laM Ihaai aa aa aqaalily wiib tlia naighboriaf **aalaaiaa, aad by ibai m^aaa raoiava a caaaa wiiicli may |ira-> ** VMI NMay faiiMal aabjacM la iliia eoaalry rrnoi aniigraling ta ** tbal lalaad fraai tba Amarieaa 8uta«, aaJ mIiicH baa hiibarta ** ahrtraeiad Iba aaulamaal aad proapariiy al ibia ColMy. Acaia. "frwAKD l.awia • • • **JoHa TnwfvaoM . • • **JaMii (iTBWAaT • • • **RicNAaa BuasB ... **JoNM Mo rait a ... ••Roaaar M*K4T • **AkaiAfiDBa AwaBBaaif • **i«Ni« pATTsaaoff •• PallaraM **JaMfi pATTBBaoHiAllaniavrarAadraw •«Tad4 .... ** Jaw 11 PATTBBaaii. fof laaaa Tadd *■ Janir PATTBaaair, ff Cbarlaa Piaraa ** Damibi. BBaasAVt far laaae Paaebard ** L A OB B V C • 80 1.I.I V A It ** PMIkir STBTBHa **Laap TowHaNBifO.for aeraa.aad livM •« tOOfl M a tayalial wba to ir draw far N " ia Iba BMida praantibad above *• L«m» TownaHSBV, Ibr Qaaaral !!•- **a8ywaad ... *«LoBD TownaNBiro, tm Lard Chiaf **BaraB MoalfaoMrjr ■ayal iaairaaiiniii wara iamadiataly aaal la iba af Iba lalaad. w.mm, aaioagai mkm (bisga, aftar lag Ibal canrbi af iba pra^rialara had agraad la iraaafar aad imh9»lm bma y itaiM m Biighl avail ikaoMalvM af Um 10,000 lO.OdI |II.g, M af iba paraoa la tvboai ib« UaJ m caa««yr4. aadi Iba aawbar M aflba lal af arbieb iba aanMi wa« a itart «liMik Ai^^^m* atMll « fntai Ittua l ••■iliad, * Ibay diaebar|«4 iharalrDM; or, ia eaaa aaab ar« •• raara •ua*% itava baaa mm. Oar Raaaitar (iaMiai af iba ^aiu •• raala aball rafwy la ina paraoa ar p ara a aa aa aaavayias. aa •• aiaab of Um laai paywaal NM4a aa aball hava baaa paii lar ••Iba pan af tba laMb aa oaavayad. Yo« ara, bawavar* ^^ •• laka a«|iaaial eara Ibai aadar eolaar af aaMplyiag wkb Ibk. •* Oar iaMiacii«>a, ao avllaaiva aoawyaaaaa ara laaila ia ardat •• la oblaia ramw^iaa af arraara of ^aiiraal, bal ibal ia aaary •• laaiiiaee iba indalgaaca aa4 aaa o aragaawal haraby iraalad ba •• aaalaad la aaiaal aad Aaa«>ld« caavayaaaaa far Iba parpaaat •* baraia-baroca iaaaii<4iad. bmI aa atbar.** I ba aai4 laaitaaiiaaa alM faribar iiircela4 •* Iba Sanrayar •• Qaaar4l la aartay ibo aarnral vano aad parliaaa of laada wblcb •• aball ba eaaaayad la Oai faiibfal fabjaeia afaraaaid, aa4 aball •* aaiar iba aavaral «arvay« or plota iHaraof af raoard ia bia aliai, ** aa4 ta iraaamii la iba liaponal OovaraaMai, ibraagb aaa af ** Oar Pnaeipal 8aer«>Uii«a af 8uia. a dialiaai aecaaal af wbal ** aaatayaaeaa aball ba aiatia aa4 csartiieaiaa glfaa,aa baraia ** dbadad ; aa4 alaa traaaaiit a dapiicaia ibaraof la Oar Higb *• Traararar, ar tba Caaiaiiaaiaaara af Oar Traaaart far iba tiaa ••btiag.** II appeart Ibal dalaya laah plaaa bi aarrylaa aal Hto lla|aaly*a kMtraeiioiM. aad ia 1790 aa Aal waa pa«M4 by iba lalaad Lag- *' iaiaiara ** loaiapawar tba Uaalaaaai Oavaraar la giva paala af - Ua4 aadar tba tiraal 8aal of iba lalaad ta aacb Uytliala aa4 **ditbaadad Trooaa aa ara ia tba aaeapalioa ibaraaf by virtaa af ** lacaiioas formarlf aMda by tba Gararaar ia Coaaeil.*' It aapaara that aadar tbia Aal aavaral graau wara taaaad by Iba Uaaiaaaat Gmraraar aaalabilag alaaaaa aMra auatlag la Ibair aeadttioaa ibaa wara eaalaaiplalai by Um PtaalaaMllM. UUfD Ct)Mlfl88IO.M KRS. Lt^> II ll 4nt Ml iWMT* lMw«v«r, thai ••f vf iboM graali m Immwi b ISOf. IBSS. aa^ IHt.Billa ««ra p«wa4 bf Um Awaaibly Ibr Um raliafol iIm AaMcieaa Lavalina »^4 4Mbaa4a4 Pratiaeial TVaafi, bat «r«f« loai ia iba Ltg lalalife Caaacil, ar aai alloarad kf Hia MaiaM|*a navaraaMai. Lard Jaba RaMall, ia onavaylaf tba 4i«allaw«aaa af iba Itt* •« BiN ( A. D. ISat) briaif ravitwad ib« ^aaaiiaa. aa4 4aalara4 tka laal Jtc w iaa af liar MnjwHf** G«v«ra«i«al, tbai iba lapaa iff fiaM, baiag ibaa nvaf ball a eaalarjr, araaU pravaal iba Oaw a ialaffattac la diMarb iba profKMisrVt ar »W»et iba pra- ■■■iplhra IHlaa aeqairad ibaraby. Ilab««4|aaaily la ibai daapaicH Ikava 4aaa aoc apflaar la bava baaa aajp aaiiaa by Iba LrgNlalaia M Itm Mbjact. fa IMI, liar Maiaaly, aa iba aMabliabaiaat af RaapaMibla Hataraaiaal b iba ItlaH* ••' ih* f^H ^ * ^i*** !•*** ^*** laraM aad eaa4iiiaaa aaiaiad oal by liar Majaaiy*a II, iraaafarrad la iba Calaaj iba ravvaaM aM larri- ligbla af iba Crawa Wbaiavar tigblr, thafafura, iba Orava al ibal iInm fm iJ avar iba proea«4« of (ba eaaati aad lawiiaiial ravaaaaa,— iba qaiiranla. ika rrawn laml faada, iba Craara Ua4a, mtd parmaavnl ravaaaaa arbicb ktd bafora aearar4, •r dMaM ibaraaAar aceraa, baeama elaarlv vaalad ia iba Local Oavaraaiaai. raaMiaiag. howavor, ia Iba Qaaaa'a aaaia aa iba •aaalilaiiaaal baa4 of iho Cmpira. BaCaraaa IMI and I8f0, iba tacal novoffaiaaal parebaaod oal Iki aaiataa af two itf iba pfoprialort, aador an Aot |mMad b. iba LagWatara, aad ar« now oararra af tba Wnrroll and i^«lbllll a»- ttlaa, aaMaatiag la 1 40,000 acraa, a« tboraaboala. m pabiie ar Crawa laada. Tba agkaibMi apoa iha i)aa«iioa af iKa Uad taaarta aiill eoa- tbiaiaf , la tba admiltad diaadtantaga of tho UUitd, and li hav- iag baaa daaaiad adviaabla by tbo l^gialaiara tbat iha diffafont •aaaiiaaa wbieb had liiihotio rormad iha caltjoet of ihai agilalioa Maald ba flnally pal al raal, aad ihal a aialom ahoald ba da- viMd by wbicb iha laaMhnld lanara of land* tn iha laiand might ka aaavartad iaia fiaaholdtt eartaia reaolalioaa wara paaaad by Ilia Aaaaaibly, aad aabaoqaaaily ooibudiad ia aa addraaa la liar Majoaly, whiel^ h aa foliaara :— ••ToibaUnwa'amoat Egaaltaal Majaalf. ** Maal Utwitim* Movaraiga : ** W; Yoat Majaaly'a laval aad davoiad aahjaeta, iha lloaaa ** af Aaaambiy af Prinea Mward Ulaad, ia Paflianient aaatini- ** Mad, bog la approach Yoar Majoaty, and moat hambiy aabmit ** Ibr traar Rayal cooaideration iha fulinwing pr«>miaa« : — ** la aanaia daapalcbaa fram aaa af Yoar Mai<>aiy*a miniaiara, **|Im Right lloaaarabia Sir Ed«»«rd Ralarar Lyiiun, Baroaat, *• Baaralary af Riata for iba Calaaiaa. dalad liowaing Sttcat, •«Mib Octabar and Id Daeambar. ISKt, tba Right llonorabia ** Ba r aaal tbaraia auiaa, that tba whala qaatiioa af tha laad ** laaoraa ia ibia lalaad ia aagagiag hia maat aaiiaaa atiaatioa, **aad that it waatd giva bin aafaigaad plaatara ta n«9iif aaak •* niMaaihiaa far thaw aaiiaibla aalUaaaat aa aaald ba aaaaplad •• bfJ9W Majaaly*a OavaraoMal. 10 ftirotT or TBB , m4 van Im«« m l««g •• WHaraM cMtab yr ara ani aalv aa gl aa i ai, kal a aula cVT ■•• alt rqaallf ayp m a^ lo Um «Mral, aaaial, mmi pa l jijaal if MM p» n il<> aaJ UM«ff liaa hrtaraaia. la |iawla e a 4 . Aa4 •! ■• vaHaaa iM pa t chaa hata far a graal aailiar af ft Aal llaf Ma|aM|r*a U awai a wMwi (iill aai mmmmH M aay < •ar^ iiarfaraaaa witli Um lawa aa4 ii|lua af iIm anyiati ialwvr '.\uaa. aaar liar M«ia«i|*a friaaipal Waar alary < IbrU' •u«Ma.4ai«4 itikaf Ilau4ar !•», aa4Maf bar ISM. Iran trliieli M ia riaar UmI aat waaaaraa lar Um ll af Um taaaairjr «s«l raaaM fl«, i»:'!iaal ia aay ««• a«»«liaia«i«g ibalf •aarfiiMa, bai wiU ai«« »a|awlar a faalMg la tba propriaiara« laairiiag iba«i ilMiaaJiaail la iMira la MofMaala, wbirti. if aaab ■gkaliaa wara al aa aa^ ib«r araaU ba lUi»l« la aaiMiaia • Am) wbaraaa tfir ll^arai J lltiiar^r l.yiiaa ia bia il«a|»«lcbaa abava ra- fcrrad la, tabila rala^iac *• Ma«ibHi aMaaar^ wbieb la tmi^mi are cr4«i4ara4 iaaua«i««aal «icb iba rigMa af yrajMrty, baa at- fraatad iba raa4iaMa af ll«c Ma|^y*a Oovaraaiaal la ea ayaf •la ariib iba I^MUiara im fanbariag aMaaaraa lar Iba aaiilaaMal af Iba laarf laaari^. ifaaMCvivaJ ia a apiril of fairaai «iUaiiaaiaalltMni«a: •* Tbaraf«ra raaalvaj, |«i. Tbal aa baaiUa aMf •aalail la ||«r Maj<«i/, pcajiag iballlar Majaaiy «ill ba ^ la 4liraa< a Camattaafia l« aonM ^Mcrral aa^ laipatlial aaraaa, ^ «Mnaeta4 «»iib iba Ialaa4 at ila aCiira« la aaMira tela iba MiaHiif ralaliaaa bmar^aa Iaai|.ar4 aa4 la«aal« aa4 ta aag<««iaM vilb IH« fwatirtaiara far aaeb abatataaal al praaaal llabiliiiaa, •Ml for aaob lanaa far aMbliag Iba laaaalry la aaatart ibair ywhsM a Mia frecbabia, aa. wi«baal iafftagtag im iba rigbli aC »• laadlaria.aMy ba lairly aa4 raaaaaablj aaba4 lar !• MMliir- •ii tba eea4Miaa af iba liaaahy. **»i^ KtMlva^. TbaiiaibaafbiiMiartbiallawaibabaaia •• aay aaab airaagaaMM abaaU ba • larga riiiiilii af affMifl y LAVD ooininnoiiBft& n \h ■\ r a mtm 4— ) tud umm4Iv, (Im g««i»8 vvwy immsI UMwi • iMg Imm m f^imm of n w c Hi n it Im laM •! t nrla 4 » iif faftltor, «Jtoi «Imm aay laaaal (witoaa rant araa fMM afr) dUmH ka 4mmtm» of ]ia)l«f aav mm rat iioiaa laaa lliaa las ^aali iaaraf4a i.'ii* pa^lMaa af tiia la«l, ho almaM Inta Um af* liaa af 4oia g ia, aa4 iliai iIm fciiMaai •« iko f%4 paaaii. ar ailiar , aa« iliai iIm fciloiaal •« iko f%4 aa faM( ^MaM laaaaaVafia aa la faaaatioa oi Nia j^aaov laait aa4 «a as fcr avarjr iMyaMai oa aoenaal af u aiel m a aaiH paal, wlioa ha aiiaaM raaa l aa Im« iaa4« aa4 Uwl ii alMaU ka ia«afla4 la all fWlafa U afar M )*ara, aacli aa ar r awg i iaa l araaM aai aalyglaaika WMMf • aa4 ai iIm a«aM iiaaa n<4acla| kio raal arkaacvar IM alma« wiilMai aai'jociiai M«ioalf to iba wtailaa aatf aaaia iMl* Aw la aaaaa anaakMllf to ««at laatoliaaala agraai la ka paM al • aai U aa ia r 4ajr, kai araali, la ika oy l ataa af ikb Haaoa, fvaia- aNf kM aoftolalv ffkkJfa ika laaatoa kito l^aakaMa, irit l Ma i itw iii af laaaa aaJ ika naaailaa aakabiaaaa af paMla aAaaa, kf #kiifc kaaay llakihtlaa kata alraaiy kaaa. aai OMati. If p araa vanrf ia to a c»aak gra9iar aalaai, ka twipt'iii aa tka pakHa •* Wa 4a ikara/ara kaaikly pny ikat Yaar Majaaty will ka •i la Uka ika tmt^aitm aMllara iaia Yaaaa Caai- a»ar m I^Miailaiiaaaca to laaaira lato tka ralaiiaaa af laai* kai aai toaaat ia ikia lalaai, aai aagaikto «itk tka afaprlMan «f l aaratkiB laaia Ikr ika tttag aaaM aafUla rata af arlea al MlaaafaSrakM- arkiall avary laaaal a«y al aaj UaM kata Um aail iig Ua laai, ar af M^Mf laiialaMala af aa«l! parakaaa, aai Ikarakv gvaiaallj raiaeiaf ika yaarly raal aaUl tka iMratrlipali: aai alto la aatariaia wMkUMarai frafrwiara fir • 12 iiroKT or THS •f Um arrMffa of rMM is wdk c««a» ani «i mtk ■kif* M tiM mU iUmmitnamm ar CoaMMioMt*, I mnmUmm af iIm iMMuHfjr m mkmm'tm, aaj 4m«. •■4 Ufa^Mal ; ••< alw !• nmIi« Mab rajpact mpmiiuft Um rUMt|r llc«arv« qaaatiaa, a»l ailbar ^aaaiiaaa ralatin| la iIm t»«• t^«M ••1 «•.*«. •«lir8.CM«4.** ••OcwaiagtlrMl, tiM Mardi. ItM. **tia,— Wkk ri fw M •• ay 4«p«tcli N*. Il.of th« till MMrf u Sir laniicl C«Mr4 iIm t mnrn fmi mti— rnktek h&i lalna fUiou ftm Um Mbioct of Um ■pptiati— t of • C— iwni w a iMiiH M frimcm U«ar4 ItlaM, I irtMMit to yo« tli* wioy of • lauar wImIi Imm boos tdittnni toiM by Sir tfomMl C«Mr4» •■i oovortil oUmt y ropriotora of htd im Im I*Uo4. * Moal, I boliofo Umi il aoy oibr ibo mmm of briogiof iboM lii^ Hiiiaf diapotoa lo a MarmlMliM. Sol il will bo aaaaa •ary» boforo foiog fanbor iaia iba •aiior. la ba aaaarod ihai iba tt«9B4 will aeeapt, aa bifiiU^, lU iniiiaa of liio Coaianai m*^ or Iba aiajarily af Umnbi fta4. m far m poaaiblo, tbai LnWiiara of ibo ColMt wmM aaaear ia aay aMoaarM wl Migbt bo faMir«4 la giva validity la ibol 4oe vary •«lbava.iia., ' NawoAaTLB, •• •• MiU Haaaa. Uaw^ Itib Fob.. IS^^ ""Mv !•••• DoK«,^Wa batra baM fbraiabod wiib a oomv BOMtlftI, oMraaaad to Hac Maiaaly by Iba IIoom of Aaaaial i BOMtlftl, aMraaaad to Hac Maiarly by Iba IIoom of Aanably •r Mtoa I4frai4 lolaad, a« Iba aah^ af Iba ^aaailoM wbUi 18 utf *1mm ivAi.a. KtlM ilk hieli Im4 •a4 «»pf of* ■ •Moisi- Ho«M«r M Uilw rwiM ftSI • Cr»««, •Btatasf irbdMlf, ^•TLB. ►'^''va, W M IMI l ly mwMdi U RK.roiiT or TFIE Imvh artMa in rnnn<>iiAn «riih ih« Avisinai grants of I«n4 i« Unl *«\Vniih«w««ilMi i9i«* ll'i«*lv tH uM a|t|*>Hnl M«'« In M- q«i«« inlu lliM re'iiii»n« of I iiMlUid «nd ln««iil in IH« |.*a itl avlilins iha taritiaa qnaatiaaa al« la«l<' I b)r Iha Hui««« u( A*atfiiil»itt »l«>**n I 'c»iiitnia«inaara or Ra« f' ba ap|ioinl>^ — 4Mta la ba nanit^ Uv Itar ll^jralf. aaa by 4ba ll'Hiaa nf AaMinblf . and aian b* iha tMa tia *t%%\ ba nanaa««rv« an4 lo dackla opaa Iha (iilfi<>«M* i|af«iiMii!i which may ba liriiotfbl lH*f«Na th^m, ^iviiifl, lif fwarM. la iIm |«<«itia« iatara>iad, aa apfmcionitf af *V%''"h aid p«A|H»«Mih«l ih«atf»aoa«*arih«Caf>-'aHA», Ihit la In a«f . ia a«|aal ihinla; and «•«• l^'-l a*«Mr•* p««ci«« ii;>Hi<> nf rarr«ipf it intn »iaralina. if a^lnpla^ •■•|U>I«« Cla »•»• A«««iMbl» :— , A 1.1 •• I'liuoa K4lwafd N'aad, Mnaaa af AMambly, *• M«sar«lay, H'.b Ap^*, l»M»0. •• Raanlvd. T»»il »hia Moa** d«Bfliag ditpwtet brtwvau lanii- lord* ■•f AMemblylh«*rrror« nftrm la lh« apiHtintinvnl of IkrM CoMi.niMHiii«r«. nn* bf Her MRj'>Mtv, on<> by iht l(uii4* of AaMwbijr, iimI ih« ihiM by lli« pr(«|iri«>lnr«. Ihr ^ip**!!"** if ih« C«aiaiiMioa to bn «H)««li)r ditidtHi haiwr**«n ihn |iii|H(>rMl |«(ii'(«>ra. ** 4 iM litMiMfui rt»»»i««»»«t ••••••*n«» *. «••• J.'.v. jr.r^ "*"•**•*•**• ■*"j' U» abid* by ih« d«tci«ioa or ih« rtfniniir«, or th« niajitriiy •f Umhm, and pl«dga ihem«flvea to cnnrnr in wh4l«v«r invutnrM ■Mf bn minirrd lo pivn valnlily lo thai drrif ion. **RMolvad, That in ordwr lo rnrry into rlTiri tli« aai^gMiiiina of km Cracn tbn Dnko of N«w*!, aa *«*t forth in liia ite<«p«trh tn hit Cicfllnacr Lifatrnani Gowrnor Onnda*. of ihn Sl^l March laat, for aaltiiag iko liing pending <|«<nl, at ant forth ia iha dt«patch rrf«rrod to, tbn other t>«n rtTereoa or arbitratora aadar iha aaid Cummiaaioa to Im named, aa iiiiiiiidt«*d in tbn aaid dtapateh, nno by I lor Majoaty'a Itoporial ttuTuriiriiooli and iha other by tbc proprietor* (Aiteal.) •*JoNit M'Nbill. * •* l.'lerk of Aanembly.** 0« Iha tJ of Hay tha f'jilnwing Act waa paMcd : — -ITap. 28. ** An Aei to gtvo efToct It tbo liapori of iba Coinuiitf«iontra lo bo appuialad oa tha Land Uaealiua, •• Paaaed 2d May, I860. *'Wh«rn«a tha laada of thia rn« ((aoraa Iho lliirdi ia larga Iraeii gvntrnlly cont lining i<«eaiy thnaund ■era* Mich* to divaro llriiian aadjecta and ibeir h«tr4 and aaaigno roapactivniyt in foa aimpla; and in (ha grania or patonta by which tha a«id Iracta of land wern ao conv«')e«l, th«?ra Mrera eon- Uiaad eaiiaia claaaaa and ciNtdiliom* re«|MK:ting thn lima and ■Maaar of aaiiliog tha aaid fanda. and aim renpociing certain qaitrania Ihoreia reaarved to Ilia aaid Mnjeatv and hia haira, aa wall •• earlain rnaarvatioaa and righta intondi'd for llio bonafit aad tacooragomeni of poraooa cngaied in carrying on iho fHbnriea «f ihia laland : And whnreaa al difTfraot tiniea ainro ihn itiaainf of tha aaid grnnta, and often daring the la«t ibirly yrara tbo Ingal iaicrpralatiua and coaatractioa of iba condition* and lewervatiooa ooalaiaad in tha aaiif ^raata reapociiag tha /■etiloment ofihn aaid laadi* tha right of onj-vyoienl of tha aaid fiaheiy ra«ervaa, and Iba Miya«>Bt of tha aaid qaitreata, hava baan mnch qaeationcd, ••4 kara graally occapicii £nd agilalad tha miada of largo num- W* of tlia iiibabitaata of tbu< Colony : And wherea* th# linal MUlooMsl uti adjaalBiaal af tkiooo <|aaftioof, wtih a daa regtrd 16 miFoiT or Tn to Um rt|lMa af all ■•■<■•■ mntk iow«r4f iMbkaaii •TUm UUtd : CW fMT oToar Lord Om thoMaad M|Im kmminA aad SAj •■ tiM Howa af AMaaabl J af llik lalaiid ami to as aMraaa !• ■Mat Graeiaaa Maiaaly Um ft aaaa, wliaraia il waa fnjmi Har Majaatjr woaU ba plaaaai to Cto tlto ralati btoraalal tkarate, »S paaaa aa4 eaatoaUMat af Uw !•- Aa4 wkaraaa as Iha ftk dav af Mav it lai fl Ay •■!•#, toHat apaatot aaato fl aM p t apaf aa CaaiMaiaaar ar Caiwiwiaaara to n^aV« iwaa af iaadlari aad taaaat ia tkia lalaad, aai ■a g t t iato with tka pra|iriato«a af towaakip laada far tka iato« af M%fT«M «**4*taa vvaA •# ••:•. •• .^t.:.k -..w-M {««»«••• iiiakt «# ••»« liaa hava tha apiioa af p«f«haa«ag bia laad. ar af payaa iaalal- •aata af aaah paraiMaa, aW tlMraby |mlaallv radacW tha fiArly raat aatU iba wiMla priaa tlMraat ba paMt aa4 ana to ' ito wiib Um raapa rtw a prapriatoia for a rawiaMaa af ite af raai, ia aaab caaaa aa4 a« aaah tovaabipa aa Uto aai4 liaaioaar ar Caafiaaiaaari, ftaai tba aireaiaaUMaa af tb« try ar oibarwiaa. Might imm faaaaaabia aad asniiaal} Mi alao to Maka aacb rapart raapaallag tba Fiabary Kaaarra «aaaiiaa« aa4 aUtor qaaaiiaaa ralaiiag to tba towaabip laaia af Ibia lalaai. aa tba llaaaa af Aaaaably eoafidaaUy bapad woaM dfcel a iaal aatUaoMat tharaaf, ao4 praraatall agitotMa ragari- iagtba aane in fatara; wbiab aaid aildraaa waa daly ftrwaraai •• uflaad laid at Um foal af tba Tbroaa : Aad wbaraaa by • daiMtab from hia Graea Um Dahaaf NawaaaUa, liar Majaaty^ Friaaipal Baeratary af Biata far tba Coloaial DapartaMat. baar* adato tba tlat day af Marab laal. aad addraaaad ta Hia Bs- laaey tba Liaataaaai Gataraorof tbia lalaad.a eoay af wbiab baa baaa laid bafota tha llaara af AaMcnbU. bia Graea, aftar tafarriaf ta tba prayar af tba aaid addraaa af Um lloaaa of Aa- aa«bly, aad alao to a coM«aaicatiaa raoairad bv bi« fVoa eartaia proprialora of tba baraia-befora aaatioaad laada aa tba aab^ of tba aaid addraaa, waa plaaaad ta auta aa falfowa, ■amaljr:— Thay (tha aaid proprialora) tbarafara, iaatoad,taggaal that ibraa Coumiotioaara m Rafaraaa thovid ba appaiatad, mam bf liar Maiaatv. oaa br tha Haaaa of Aaaambly, and tba Uiird by tha proprialora, aad that thay ahoald ba iaraatad wiUi oowar to haar aad datarniiaa all tha qaaaiioaa ia diapaia. It ia rartbar aaggaatad, that iha aipaaaaaf tha ComniMiaa ahoald ba dividad aqaally batwiMa tha Crawa, tha taaaata, aad tba ^ropriatora. If tba eoaaaat of ail lha partiaa eaa ba obtoiaad to tbw propoaai, I baliara that it may oflar tha Moaaa af hriagiaa thaaa loag- Cidiag diapataa to a daiamiaatios. Bat it will ba naraaaary» bra going farthar into tha OMttar, ta ba aaaarad that ibo laaaata will oceapC aa biading lha daeiaioa of tha CooimiMioaara, iiaaina i; aad ar tha majority of ibam; aad aa fkr aa poaaibia that Iba Lagiala- tara of tba Colooy woaM eoaear ia aar moaaaraa wbiab migbl ba raqairad to giva validity to that : Aaa wharaar, in paraaaaoo of Uia 'aggaatioaa eootainad ia tha aaid raeitad daapatab, Um Hoaao oi AsMrably, oa tho Stth day af April iaauat, paaaad tbo falfowiag raaolation, mioMly : Baaalvad, That tbia llaaaa daoa it aipadiani lo eoaear ia tha aaggaatiaaa efarad for lha eoaaidar- tUoQ of tho Hoaao af Awambiy aa aal forUi ia Um daapatab fr< I' h !!Sr»!^>^Pili If <■' If 'I ft ^L^^ r rt» ' i 111.1: w .ri' ■MUHIIiH IJkND C0MMI88I0NKRS. 17 Mi Urae« the Dak« el* N«we«*tla, dated l>ownirtg JIUMt, Slit 4^j of March, in th* ymmr of oar I ord 1880, on ih« aubMcl of lk« prupooed apuointoioiil of a fp«ndiag Uiapotva bft«r««>a landlurda and lovania of this laland; Iho lloaao of Ar#«itibly ihfrefore agiee 10 Um •pptHiiiNMal of threo fuaiiuiaaionrra, ono by Her Majeaty, ••• by lb« lloaae of Aaaembly , and iHe third Ity tho prnprieioia, IIm expoMeof the CoRiininuoB 10 bo rqeally divided between tho Inponal Govrrnin«nt. tho gearral re«»-i«ui* nf ihw Colony, ami IIm profM-ivtura: the liowao of Aaartnbly alao Ngr«*f, on ilie part mt (Im* laMaMtrt- l« Kltuid lt« ihn ll««(*irii«IU u( iho ( 'olliniiaMUIilura. •r iha niajoriiy of ihim, and pledMH iheiu«olv«>« to concar in winiaver lueaaaroa may bo re«|uir«d to givn vatittitv to llial daciainn: Aad «hi>rt*ai«,in nrdwr to niamtiin g<*iMj fi«ith Miih ll«r Majtraiy'a Imperial dnvfrnitienl, nn well aa with lliw Ittivin-ba- for* ON^nliooeJ proptiitiurx nf the aaid liiiid>«. an«l all othar |M'r- MM ibleiaaled )lieraia. and for the purpttfe of rriiti«*riog iha iraport or award to bo tuitda liv tt'.«* anid t*oniiiii«<«i (uh(m. ur J>y IM mnjiuitv of tlirm, final nud coiirluai%« apon nil imiiicii t** bo •flecltid lhrr«by,Niid l«i tirinit ''* ** i>"'*l rod and ii«'«iiiiriiiii|i>n ail and amgalar the vartoua (iitn'reni:***. diHpulaa ami uiu hiI.uh- IIM wrhicit have hrrHoforo arisen bH>rcHnid i«i\%n«iii|i lH()d« aitd ilia lanatila ihar<*on. md all oihwr {HfCtftmN inipittfiHd in tht* neiiia* naot of the aaid IukU, iIio nclit to and iln* u«e i>f iIih aniti iimifry raaervra, and the * \ oii«>n of the fnid <|uitrpiii«, it ia ri'Toaaary UmI the award or ri*|>ort to bo iiiHdr> by tliM »«id i'tMiiinuaionria, M by any two of ihom, alioaid have au auilioritutivo and binding CKca and uparation. **l. Oa it thorefore enactad hy tho Licairaant CioTernt'r.rnan- flil and At«enibly, ihallhe r«>port or award, m «m)o part thormif. to b« made by the ihrra Cntnniia^ionera or Afl>iiriitor*, or any tfva of them, to ba noininatfd and ap|iointcd by tho •evrral Eirtiea reapectivcty, and to be aulhorisfd and nuipuMprml by •r Majeaty, agreral>ly to or in cnnfottiiity <«-iili ibn ■ojceiiliona Ctfntaininl in tlia lier«>in-b**li*te re«iteii>d by the aaid roniniiMHionera, or any two of tlu'in, -hill b# de- livered to the lnant (Jovernor of thi^ Ittland. wtu> •d'i!* aadoraa thereon. uiid«*r hia own hand nnd aignitiiir**, n noto of Iha day aad year wbi>n rrcoivrd, and it bli.ill ihfroNlier hm rt-fiit- lared at fell ipogili in lioi Dlltro for ilio Kcfin'ry < I llivda in rhia laland; Bpd tbeori^iinal pari lli**r«'i>f, nftur b^'iitji duly m gutfred, ahall be Clad nimI kept in the ollice of the C'oluni.il Mucroiaiy of tku iaiaad. ' **t. That the aaid award, when an compfetfd and delivered to Ilia Kscelleoey tho l.ieatennnitiovernor, ahall be nnd bo defined B»4 taken to bo final and conclaaive; and iha right*, iniereaia gm4 notalnof Her moat itiarioaa M-ij^nty the Queen, of, in, and !• ail tba aforoMid township lande. tenement!!, hrrrditamenta, in m fat aa Mar Majeaty ataiida Miaed U araia or veatad therewith M MMif aftlM Uovaraaani or inbabi(&ati of thia laland, and ao 18 BBPORT OP TEl Iw M tbs Mi4 rigbtt, imii&nm, aa4 muiot iImII b« Mbaiitt«4 tm lb* «eMilaratioa m4 dtUrmiMUoa of Um mU CMBOiioiiMafa; Mi ib« ii|hla. MUM, reatit mmm. tai proCia of MMh aauiaa, libartiaa, franehiaai, aad iaiaraaia af all aa4 at ary paraaa aa4 paraoat whoaMaavar of, ia. ta, aat of, ar eaaaaraing iba nM lawMkip laada, taaamaala aa4 baradiumaala, wfMthar aeqairai Mara 99 aftar th% makiag af Um Mid award ar raaart, imII ba aad baeaaa Mibjaet ta. ehargad aad elur|aabla witn, aad baaad by tba award ar rapart af tba Mid CaMaiMioaara, iw aay twa af tbam* la taeb manoar, aad la raab attaal, aad far Ncb thaa, aa aball ia tba Mid award ar raoort bn a wt Hit iwA m f mA . «*r rw«air«M|. ''Evary paraaa wboniaoavar, wbaaa Mtata, praparty, ar iaiaraM Aall ic aay naaaar ba ar baooMa afactad by tba Mid award ar caport, aball aad nay ba at libarty ta plaad tba Mma ia aay Caart of law or aqaity ia tbia lilaad ; aad avarr aaeb Coart ibari adssis aad sUaw ta avary aaeb parsoa tba fall loraa aad aflaai af Iba Mid award or raaort aaeardiag ta tba iraa iataal, MMaaiag. •ad oparatiaa iharaal. ««la eaM of tba dMlb,raaigaaiiaa, ar iaaapaeity af all oe aay af tba Mid CommiMioaari aa to ba appaiatad. bafora tba fiaai oMk- iag of laab award, a aaw ConiaiiMioaar ar Cafi MJ aaara aball ba aoniaatad aad appaiatad by tba mom party 0€ pariiaa raapaatiralv wbo bad appaiatad tba CaMuiiMiaaaf or Caaiaiia- aiaaara •<' ing, rMigaiag, ar baaamiag taaapacitatad. **!• MM of aay aaw appaiataaai baiag ra«|airad la ba mada — dar tba abova aaeliaa ia iiaa af tba CaaiMiMioaar appaiatad Iw tba HaaM af AaMaibiy, at aa| liaM wbaa tba LagUilatara iball aal ba ia aaMiaa, aaab apaaMlaaaal aball ba auda by tba liaataaaat Gararaar ia Caaaaiii aad ia aaaa af aay aaar ap- Kaiflaaai baiag raqairad ta ba BMda tbaraaadar b Iiaa ot Iba raoaiMiaaar to ba aaaiiaalad by tba Hid proprialara af tba Mii laada, aad aaeb aaw appoiataiaat aball aal ba aada, aeeaplad. ••d daly aatifiad ia wriiia| to tba CtavaraoMal af tbia lalaad witbia laar naatba aait altar a raaaiaitiaa for tbal paruoaa, 9t*m^m in writin*, nm4 aivfi**! Ky til* f.i*iit«M»«Mf ttt%^ttfy^t^ fJf il^ff Irfaad ia Coaaeil, aball la paMiabad ia tha Royal Gaaaita af tbia lalaad, tbaa it rhiall ba lawfal for tba Mid Liaataaaat Govaraar bi Coaaeil, or tba lloaM of Aaaembly of tbia lalaad, if tlMa ia aaMioa, to aomiaata aad appoint Mine ftt aad proper peraoo aa a aaw Coaiiai«aiuaar oa bebaif of tba Mid proprialora of tba aaid laada. •* •. Every aaw Commia«iooar ao appaiatad aball ba iavaatad witb aad may eicrciM the like powera aa aball bare baaa or arera ialended ta ba eiereiaed by hie predeeaaaor. •* t. it aball ba lawfal far bit EteelteBey tba Liaataaaat Gav- araor ia Cooncil, by warraat eadar hia head and aeal, ta order la ba paid uat of tba Pablie Treaaary of tbia lalaad oaa- third of what ahall be deemed a raaaonnbla ramaaaraiioa for tha earrieaa af tha Mid CommiMioaera, with oaa-ihird part of tha naaaaMry atpenaM atteadiag the Mid Comoiiieiaa; tba Mid third part af the mmI remaoaraiioa to ba paid In tha rommiaaionar appninted by tha llaaaa af AeMaibly, aa babalf of iba laaaalry af tbia lalaad. LAND OOMMISnOKSBB. 19 - Ifollimji is ihit Ael M«taui«d tlnll lwv« tay r«rM or iftel I i! i V I 1 I "" nowmg M loM Aei M«taui«d tiMii iwv« tay farm ■slil H«r MaJMtjr*! al«Mar« ili«r«ia tban b« known.** ThoM roMlotwoa ood aotieo of Um Aet ha ring booa traoo' Milto4 bjr Ilia Eieolioacj ibo Lifateoaat C jTtnior to bw Gnoo iIm Doko oT Noweotiio, tko followiiig l>Mp«(ch woo ooot to tiM liooloaaat Ciovoraort — "No. U. •• Dowaiog Suoot, Itih Jooo, 18M. **8ia, — I hovo bad nndor nj cootid«raiioo yoor deapaieboo. No. IS. of tbo l€th of April, and No. It. nf tba SOth Apiil. lo «I»«.I W • ••»««•«•>••••. ••. ..uawu >MU oooiblr agr««a to tbo propoNd appuintniont of Coin«ia«iooar« oo Ibo aobjoct of tenarM of landa, biodi iiaolf lo abido by tbo do- oioioa of ihoao Commia«ioncrs, ur tbo majority of tbani. and plod|O0 ilaolf lo eoBcar in whatavor maaaarea may ba reoairad lo gifo validity to tbat daeiaiaa. la tbo aacond d«apaich yo« ioforni no. tbat a abort Aet baa aiaca paaaaU tbroagh botli Uooooo, f iviac aflaet to tbo foregoing roaolatioo. *• I eaaaot do othorwiaa tbao aipraaa inv aaaaa of tba pronpti- lada aod eonplataaaaa wiib whicb tbo lloaaa of Aaaambiy nao IIhm givao it* aapport to iha plan deviaad, ia tba hopa of paltioff M aad to tbo difleraoeoo wbieb bava pravailad ia IViaea Edward **la Mr Howo. tbo Aaaanbly.aeting'on babalf of tba taoaolrv, Imvo aoloetod a f 'onaiaaiooar arboao known ability aod promi- •oat poblio pooitioa aoat woU qooliTy bioi for tbo propoaod •^/h ■^ofli Sir Saiaool Cooard I bovo raeaivad a loCtor. of wbieb • oopy kt ooeloaed, aaning ao tba Comobiaaionar aalactad by tbo proprioloro Mr Jobo William Rkobia, of Halifax, wbo 1 donbl ■ot, will booorably diaebarga bit fanetiono. ■•I hovo writtoo, io oiarciao of tbo eboioo boiongiog lo Hor Majoaly'a Govoromoot. to raqaaat Mr Jobo llamiltoo Uray. of Now Bronawiok. to aadartaka tba ramaining offica of Commia- fliooor. Mr liiay tiaa racaatly condaoiad anoinar pabiie inqairy. with a dagroa ar ability, earafalnaaa. and jaaiice. whicb aotitloo Wm lo tbo eoofidooeo of all eoooorood ia tbo intoodad iavaali- (otioo. ** Alihoagb tba privilaga of aalaetiag oacb Conimiaaioaar boo kooo eoofarrad on a aapnrata aalhority, ao aa tha bettar to araara oatiafactioo with iba coiii|io«ition of tha (yommiaaion. yet it ia my tiaw.and I daabt not will ba thai of ihe Ctimniiaaionf>ra ibem* oaivai. tbat nona of them ooght to be regarded aa thn apacial •dvocata of one iotaraai. bat raiber that tba whole ahould devote llMir eflofia to framing auch recoramendationa aa aiiali be de« ■ooded by the eqaity of the caa«. and be condociva to ihe fooeral good of all cla»aaaof the eoromonity. Thair conelaaionc, wbataver they may be. will poaaeaa doAbio weight, if happily llkoy aboold be anaoiiiioaa. **Tba time of meeting in Prince Edward laland will ba beet dolorminod by tbo Coromieaionera ihemaaUea, who will bo able 10 floaaaaieato with yon apoa aay puiato which tboy nay k li Ih I 19 BirOftT or TBI trti QraM tolte III. U .L • - »••«« *•• ••raoa thad*- iin, and eo«ir«4 kien yoa |h boik iibly Mt r paitiaf t«M»trv, 4 prooA- Urwbieli idbvib* If !• Htr Grftjr, af ConiiBM- I inqairy* ••(illM lioaar kM |to •p«ar« il it mj l>ri thflin- in tpecial U de«ot« II b« da- y« to iha Relatione, happily II ba baal III ba abia If wiab tato, aa baariag as Um aa bj tct af fmia4 (ot ika parpaaa. •« Il will ba daairabia tbal praviaM ana ■■da, aa br aa praeueabia, hi haviag al I •ad all daca«aaiary at idcaaa arkiab Um Cawiiaaiiwi it lAaly !• raqaiia, m lUt iba lioM a aadad for ihair aaUMl attiiag ia lalaad may ba ri^acad wiibiM iba maat f«od*r of iba I'aiUl. T« •II la wbom ihoM Pro^aalt aball c^mt^, fr^Hioa. •• Wbt-roa* Wa ha«o boea m4iTad by iba ^oMoibly af Oaf lalaad of i*ria'*.a Rdword. la appoiai (?amini««laiMr« la iaqaira lata iho diflVrracaa aow prvtailin; la Oar Mid U!aa4. frialinf la Um rigbia of iidoworra aad teaaau la Oaf Mid h'aad, ariib a flaw to lb«> nciilomaal of ibo mmio oa ja«l aad Miaitnblo priaai- plaa : And wbefob llowo, K«q«ifr, and (>ar iraaly aad »al|.bolo««d Joba Witlinm Riiebio, fM|«irr, to ba Oar Caaimia«ionef« for iaqoiiing inlu ilio mmI difl«r«aca«, and far ad« Jaaiiag iha wima oa fair aad fMjaiuM^ ptiariplM. •* (iitra al Oar Toafl at Ba« kinfbam Paiaca, ibia I5ib day ^ Jaaa, IM«, ia iYm Slib yrar of Oar Koiga. ** lly llor MajoMy'a Camaiaad. (liigaad) **NawoAarLB.** By virtaa of tbia Cammiatiaa, Iba aadar»tga«d CamMimia a art p ragatdad lo tba l*Uad ia iba aMaib of Aaga«i, aad aAar aoaM prailmiaary invaatigaliea aad aiaaiiaaibw nf nmuiif Atyxrzzziz, J mad a f ablia Coart if laqairv, ia Cbarloilaioita, oa ibo till Bapieaibar, paraaaai la ProefanNtiaa ia iba Kayal ClaaaiM. Tbia Coa:i waa baU ia tba ball of Iba Oaaoral AMambly, aad m apaaad la tha pablic Tba aMaibara of ibo Laaal l*arlbiaMai, aad p a m ai of panae- paWia alaadii^, wara iatiiad M auaad by apaehl caeabir. /• } I s LAND oorannoiiiis. Ml tl mk&n to M J 11 Ml tl mk&n to Mj mkm way toiw«i«l to iIm ^ t t i li M 114- ■iHai f)v ■■■■i i i m iia, «r to iIm gMoral «r«lfcr« il Um btoal, «iPt ato* tovkai lif Miiltaitoa to iIm paMto >»W M f toa4 m iba wiM w aaJaM Cirw waiM hf iIm Ovka af Nawaanto to iba Liaa«aaaai Gavtf aaf , IMra aUf faprataaMl by aaaaul af aMwaaaa aa4 4ia t toa U aa. aa« m mrtMaMai, aatf ^MM af ptKkk§, a(laa4«4 aal wara iMafd. N liag MaaMriato ItoMi iIm vartoaa ^HMI^J al litopUaaat wMm llMf arara talaaial al paMto Maaitoga M raMaaaal* •aMMi, paprtolafa, aa4 afaan alia allaaJal, Ma^a Umw aiaM- bf Um aaaaaal, ud aN Maaaa af aahaaaitog Um waraaa af to- toiiltoa waca ai^ptil. Oa Um Im af Oaiakar ika CaMMto- daMta aJ k a w a l UMir aiutofa la HalUaa to iIm aMalli af Oaa- aakar Mlawiaf • wlii i lMr to ilw Maaa tiaa iIm iaafaato of Um Ha«a af AiiiMlIf aal aafiaa af MkaaaM. Ob Um Mil af Daaaakar Um aa4afalgaal umI al llalilhi, aal •aMtoMi UMir tovaaiifaiiaaa aalil Um Itili af Jaaaarjr, wIm« llMf wara aaMfalM la arfioani am a a ae a al af ailMr JMparlact af allMC paklto AaaasaaM fHM batiaaaa faaairiftf iWir aiiaaitoa. DBriBf Um aiilia| af Um Caari af ClMrUilatawa fi ra l Mli •Mtoal katof aJholiB by ika pfaaaa^toaa of iha Coiiiaiitaitta wai* BMtfa kf Mr CiMriaa WtifM aad Mr lawaahipa by Mr CiMriaa WtigM uti Mr Rabarl Braca Slawart. I lhaMMlvaa aa prafMialiwa af lawa«liip« f aarM at aa4 al llalifat a stoiilwr prMaM «r«trae«iva4 iraM Um MMaraMa Larfy Ctoaty I*m Gaaritoaa faaa. la Um aMaUi af rabra«ry (IPfi) iIm followiag 4a«paleli wm >aaMil l a< kf Uk (Sraaa im llalia of Nawe«oila to iHo liaa- Oavaraar af Um iataad. aad l«i4 balora Um Lagioto- •• No. a. ** Dawatoc fitraal. ta4 laa., IMI. Bia«— I hava Im4 aaJar mj eoa«Mloratioa tba Iwa Aaia pawa^ by Um Lagirtolara af Prtaaa Edwarl Maa^, aa4 aaelaood to vaar 4aifaleli Na M. of iba in of Oeiobor laii, oniiilMl H». ittf, * Aa Ad la aaibartoa Qiaaia af iba Hhoroa of ihia ltUa4,* aal Na. IBM, * Aa Aai to giva •ffoei to iho RofMrl of iha CaM- ■iaiiaaara to ba apiMtol«l ho tha I«aa4 Qa««tioa.* •• I IM oaato ioabi aa la iba objoet ariib whieb Um flrol af. Umm Aaio waa poMal ; I do aol ooa what Iaa4a il will afloat, a! ftsrt s^." h'»z^ •¥•••» •»»'••». w-tr* H rrst •.? "rtrs!? ?2 iht BHMiT famraa* •• At UM aaaM li aa tha trf»alaiaal af I vao waaa u { [i aaantoa aa wbkb liar Miijooiy** GavaramoMi btta oafKaooad a JMiiii aftotoa, aa4 wbieb al ibo tooiaaaa of iba Priaaa 24warl litoad LMWatara, b aaw aador ra f araaaa la iba raeaaUy af- faialai CTimbiIhIh, I aaa bardly laMgtoa UmI Um Lagiitolara ^V'- 11 m ZrM lituitM ttfhH Mrtt M ilek H« liM- Ufbto- I *••'• ^ WpMMd UUn4.* |b« Co«i- Ill ■*• aapfoM^ to ba ica asiaat. IIm Aat waat4 <><• Ma(ia««l ta iho«a Uad*. if aajr, aa4 la tha Iaa4 below high-wai«r maik.nr «rh«>lb«r iba Aci araa ialaada^ to apply lo amiM or all of ih« ft«hety rMafvai. •* S What ara aaJaff«taad ta ba Iba praaaat pMrari af tlw Craara rMpcctiag •haim laadt, ao« e««ii|wi«f>4 ia ibnaa raaanraa, •Ml wbal Iba additional powara wbiah it ia ialaa4a4 lo caafar m fia pact af ihtwo tjad« by iha fvaaaal laar. ** 4. What eiTact, if aay, iba Act ia iataada^ la bava apas tha iahary rrarrvaa ** ft. Amd iaatly, whetbrr tb<)ra h ia iIm* prcacal rircamauaaaa •f Iba l»Un4 aay ffMnd for aspaeiiag ibat * onoiMMfcial aalar- ptiM* will ba niacb ancoarag«il (4««iaia4 ia tha prtambla af iIm Aei) by an xg vacb graaia on Iba a*a-«bora at woaU b« ■«iba(istr4 b, |irupo«c^ Act. aad woaVl mi ba aalbofitadl ttitboal tl. ** I maai add, howavar, that wbaiavar araarar »ay ba fW> ■bbcd lo ib^aa i}a««iiea«, I caaaot adviaa iba fiacan to aaMSI tm Iba Act while ilts aali)*^! oa which it Ivgialataa it aatfar Iba Maaideralioa uf ihQ (!amnii»aiaaara.** ** With rpgaid to the Act for giviag rffV^t la the award of tba Ca«in)i««ionrra, | gladly aclir.owli*dga tha iiromptiteda wiib ftbicb Iba IVn«inci«l legialaiare baa haaieurd lo |iva afloat la wbal ih«y aapfMMd la be tha draiteof lli>r Maj'My'a Gavani- ■Mai, c««i«o)«a ia uty deapatctt uf iii« 2i*t wt* TtiMuit •••«, aiMS I vary maeh ragrel ihal aa a^oparaal oiiaeaRCfpiiaa of «v maaaiag Itoa lad Iba L«gi*latara lo p;\aa a law which appaan laba praow- Isra. *■ My object waa boI la ra^aira iaioiadiata lagtalatiaa for tb« ^poea of giviaf proapMliva eAect to tba awaiil af tba Caa- ■ilMioaara, bat oaly la ubiaia from Iha lieaaa af Aaaatablv, aa rapraeaQiiag iha whole body af iha laMata. aa aaaqalvaeal aa- oaplaart or the propeaed rcreiaaM, and fruoi iba Lagi«latara a pladga that iha lawa aacaeaary to give afleei la tba ra«Niiaaia»> •re* award •boahl ba paaaad wbaa it appwrad what l«giaUtia« •»•*••• % - «••- •**«•• t^m •%»»• va-^^^AA ••avaavi* ••«• eaa»%>» ^ — ^o • •«*• •••«• 4>»« Ww w — ** Bat tba prvMsal Ael, ar aay ether Aai wblab a««ld ba paaaad •I Iba praeaat momeat, might ia tba avMl prava aitbar ta« •fraapiag or im liiuiiad for tMI abjeal. Il wmM ba tM awaap- i«f ir il wara fa«ad that the refataM praoialgaiad daeiataaa iMpeatiag laada baloaf iag la paraaM who bava aat e u aiaatad to Ika rafaraaaa, ar if tbay aada awarda raapaaliag qaaal i aaa (lika lako romiiiiSioNERfl. ■%'. U I ! I t • If lkal«C«Mb«i«i) mhteh 4i4 aot Tall wiihia thm acop* nf ** ll wtivM b« UM liiMii«i«l. or at l^aa* !s^4«4|a4ta for ila |Mfw paM, if it Uilnl III lll«kn ««eli |iniVi*M»n'. ofdaUil eg wrra aac««. •arjr la giwi* practical aMWi la Um gnaaral |irMei|i4a« lai^ da«« k| Ilia lIitaimM^MNifra. ■* Kuf ikaaa raa*«ii« il apfi^ara lo ma impoaaiWa |« adtiaa liar MajaMy !• aMMit, at iha |iia««>«« mn«nf>nl. lo aajr aack gaaaral law aa ikai wkieli h«a atw Im«>« r«if«nr^««| ; aor 4*» I aaa ihal •■)r pfaaaai i*-f muimm coaid ba vaianbiv, «AC6|»t a iMfMiia aiMl i|ua«linn« la wnieu liittH iiM|«i( j waa la «>iii*«d, ur wl «^Hi(«friii< i>ii Ihitin |ha piiwer# (lih« Hmms aCea««pi*lli«g iha ailtiiMlaaea ol «vita«p« ralfialale4 !• aiaMo ■nrt>aa<>a4bl«» eipariaiioaa, or lo «iinialaia agitaima ; tm iIm oilivr baati, wtiibi aMaring iha |ir<*|iriaiora ihal Iha award af Uta C*oiiiiiiw*i«*n**«« wii| ni>t ba anf<»rr.nii by liar .Maj«>aly*a GovaraiMani acain«i toy p««f«a««»iil^ to rrfer ihvir rlaima lo •ffbiiralioa, I atMiaiJ «*i«h «o« al««» to ulMfiva lu thnm, ihal ihair rafaaal lo ouncar traitkly in a iiia««urt' Mhivh waa i«laml«Ml lo «o**n a»«« iinl (''•iiiiiM««i<*Nara •gaui mat by ap|ioiniiuani *t UutiiMy, in iba I'rbvtuaa of Maw Brsrrrrt-'f llwy iraat Ihal ikav »nl<(rp«| u no tba «li«rh^ri(t< nl iiio daiiaa •aatfiM^ 'a ib«>ni not mily wilb « bi^b apptcr.Miiitn uf iha bont*ar •a«(»ri«^ by ibf^r app«>iuiairni. bal wiib a dan aanva of iho giava mpiinaibililiaa wkieb lliu) aaaniiird. Wb«n ibav com* Maiie«Hl ih«*ir Ub« ar«, Iharti waa » grnrral iiiimrMion ihat iha Aei of lb« I'invinrial L«>||t«hiara, which niada Ibfir award bind- iog no all parlNM cnor«^ai>d, woald rrrriva Iha Kutal aaaaol : •lid ailboagb lh«* dreiaina of Ilia I • rata iha Cuioniil Hncraiary, •14 10 aabmil Ihal \r% for liar Majaaly*^ apprnval, aiMiKwbal raliavad ibpm from iha watgbl of raa|ion«ibiliiy ncra«aarily ia> Tolvod io tba pr^paralioa and dalivary of a jadgmani buyond •pfwii, tim, -i.:: :J.: ±i! i? •»•-•• ••«ra •.•« •• mHoci tba liiloa •ra millMM of aeraa, and iha rigbia and ioiaraaia of 8 w maHj • wm t m j •a4 M I* b* fiMMi4 w Um j iay MJ i af Um LatMatara, is ilaa af iIm Caaari < la Um Ialaa4» aaall a fwaHftaai a aaaiaba^ raviaw af aN Um laMb Um laaaiaa ti Um taa4 IIM aaiara y ai iMva alaa fait Umi aa Um aaaa af Pviaaa UaMf4 I«iaa4 waa ■ ■ aapiiaail, aa aiatl ba iba » apfliaaliaa af Um l«aaal Q aaaraaiaa l fbr a €■■■■ , laiaa fawaia givaa la ii by iIm Qaaaa'a aaUMtilT, priMfiiirt Um aaaaaaily af a 4ap*riaffa ffaai iba atilaaty Ufil aaMt af aaMliaf 4i>| » aia a balwaaa laa^laMa aa4 laaaali, whieb iba ••• pariaaaa af balf a aaaiary Im4 pvaaai M ba iaadhifaaia. Pla4iag« i bara f a r a. ibal it waa i«paaiibla la abai aai af UmIt ia^irv wbia aa Um Idaad. Um ^aaaUaaa af aaabaai. ^ilvaMi. Um lUnry laaarvaa, iba aiaiaaa af iba 4aiaaa4aali af tba a«i|iMl Praaab iababi ia a M . Miaaa, aa4 i«yaliMi, Ulay bata tbaaJbt il aaiia wnbia iba aaaa* af (ImI* ■ M U.t j i.^ g •• s*»,^ •*■ ,;, ' Tba qaaatiaa af aaabaal« ibtadb aapaftaUf Mial MiaiiMr. raeiJrai laai iUUnwa af bliOnaa iba la^i aAar iba apaaiagaf iba Caai> «■§ himi 99m iktm Hm iba Aiy iba Oa«l I ' « 1 « 1> ji:! M%i i K^ i i; t * I ; H ^ii .» ill f i! i»k U if W) '■i ■a ?,fi LAHD COMHramOKKIU). 25 •mmwi aaiil it efcMM. Maaj pvbiie nmm rtf»rr«>4 i« it, Nn4. •NlMr M ■ nm^dy or ■ Marra of apprelMiMMii, ««ch«ai k«« h««« ■rf*4 mt r««ki«4 m • vary lar|« proportiiMi sf tb« 4acaiu«ol« T> pa« vvac mcIm«I was aa iwiy o artfc'^i aa it woaM m^m t» to iMfwlkte. UfMi M braadi of lk« govaral aakjoct Kaa mora groaa if««(as«a aad MMapprolioiiaMM protrailMl; Ar4 wcra il Moiltod, eaalfovaray mmM a^iaf ajp «rUii inorMaod virakHMo irn M ^•arsara. Tto ai l aaca af IM C««iiiii«aMMior« m\ttm ihia all Mgroaaiaf t«|>w wookl to rofar4o4 with ■••pieio«. a«fl migM taaliat ■•gatory ttotr •9m%» to toiaaeo ito iaiartou Uivolvai, Tto aad f iga o4 h«va itorofora Itoaglil il !• eamport witli tto 4My ttojf oworf to all partiaa, to aipraaa tto coaelaaioaa a3 wliMi Itot amva^t •*•* ■!>•• liti* qaoaiMK.. Far atoaiiailf af arraafaaMal k ia ^aairaMa la coaa«laf ito i««raa. la apyraacliiaf ihia, tto aMal im^artaal braaeh af ito aab^aal ta f arra< l la ttoaa, tto ai.4aroigaa4 faal tto grava rotfioaMlNliiy af Ito laak iipaaai. Partopi aa Ihrta maa ia Britiah Awa ri aa «Tar« %9m calM la arfckraia aaaa iatar«HNi of tto aa^aa magai- liar oaiiaaejr afforjiag ito arallara af J '_ or a jaror atoal to 4aei4a iagia aauia, ftola tto raopoaaibililjr of kic poaiiia*, Ito aa ■ffMni l«ftWftl IImmi. iImi ilM}r Im4 m f mm— r • W Pi Ml Um ki^iry, iMl 1^4 lb4«Mr4 lakH flTM Ml«r M fliflMW yftpwiy lwt«M«r ««r Mm ■ii n ily iMviai kt ito Uw. iIm ^m AIi9Pv ^V 9*^NWF1' MPtf MM pCMlrfiMt •(to M9 M MMiit«UMally flMlfvIM l«r iWjirtlw _ pnUt^mg p«f«»H«f« «f PnM« B4waf4 I«Im4 lMt« «i baMar mIm !• ilKrtr »r«Mf«iw iImb Im4 iIm Bai g Mf n af C^M^a, Uto «f Mi4i«ii»> MVMti mi (Im •••«•• I>««m1 muim is lr«Uad« m iIm «!«»< l iaMw to iIm ^aM Ia4ia«. Thmj iMva aara ^kmj •«• i« ImI4 by Uwaaaaca OataramMt, altar braaali m rmmi •^••^ faMaaTilia B«W4 Niaaa aaar aa4 aaar agaM. CaiMjr. 4mIi witk k% •pm r ^ e la f wIatiM, at wava llMy aaar MM^IM la aac«|rt iIm ' ar aaaM. •aly ba Uaaia4 a* iarga cla aaaar 'da |irMaara «il •«Miiar •; af iIm awaf4. ihay )af ika«f fvllaw aaliiaaia liaaa •mi, far Ika aiaitil. w»aM liava bat liitU rmlM ta raaip U ia. |«naliHic bark at 0*9 •Migia mC tba«i aalw^ y 4iipaiM, il it affaiaat tliai lb* (ranutig of a wbala Cwtmmf ia a aiaf .'; m li ';i' 5 ; •«m4 by iIm maaiy. «Im »*»^» •• *^l <*< rwelaim it, or war* nwplid to roam mbt^mi or «li»r«f«ni ika ie?iMi of ai iil«iiiMii, by iIm 4|MMii| af wiM laiHl wiib n« viatbia iw^r t* |«anl it fnum i««r«ai»«. My wataal m-o|HM«iKMi aMi • eommoK p**l*'y* (b« praynt ara wiflil ba«a tadavmrd tba ffania ul iha Iniparial »lcm»ata oftarrraa Iai4 iha fuaadatiaa af all •.irrj* *•»••••«• •ii««»li aalMMiaatilU aflirird iba rctl«»nr. Tm aafMralisa af iba laland f um iba UitatamfMit ni inava 8aaiia, aa tba |rf«dga nf iba pro|Kta NiillatI laraiMiia part af tba lafgar ('aloay, ita iaiaraata weaU Iwva baaa caairallad by ladapaadaai lagMlatiaa, and tba impaliey ti tba fraata waaM bav« lanf aiaaa ba^ eartaelatl by iba t'aart af Kaebaal , arbieb bad alwata baaa aflWiiaa ia ibat pravinaa. llMi afffor aataM*^ apoa iha ftriiwk (•••(•inmaat « hraty aanati atfMadrtara, aad 4«>iwivr«| iba Ulard of iba rafHa4li«>a arbieh waaW bava baaa appiiad ta i«« > wm i «M nMv |MMMHpMM wnaaaMa LBa4 Paiehaaa Aai, aaJar aaruia gaar4« aa4 fvliiab araaU appMr la Im aataaiial la ibak atii ll ia daar ibat tba laaal Q My«MF Um priaeiplaa af Iba Laa4 Paiabaaa Aal. wilbaat tba aaaiilaac* «f ib« iaifaf bl Faf liaMaat. Ta law fl ila iba yarabaaaa abaa4y ■adlaihtir raaaarraa btta baas atraiMi aa4 avaa If tba aaaay ataiaa at tmm imm. aa Ibat Maay jraaia ■«! larga aiaaaara af r«ltaf eoaU ba givaa la tba taaaairy, wbaaa aaaalaiaia bata Ia4 la Ibit faM aaaM ba al oaaa aallael*^ iba GavaraiMat aaaU aaly pttt- abaia iwa atbar aalaU •lapaa bafiita aay mat bo4y of tba taaaairy, Mcairy. ■at if ika lair ^'ial PaHUaMat vraaU gaaiaalaa a laaa af £199,909 aiarlic iia aMaaw aaaU ba ba w awa^ at a vafy law rata af iaiaiaa. Tba laifanal Gavaraaiaal araaU nm aa rkli. baaaaM ib« aaaaal laiaraai, aa4 aaab a atakiaf faa4 aa waaM •ttiaf***b iba dabi ia SI yaaia, aaaM ba aica«a4 by a panai- •aal Aat. ami oMda a ttiai elMU|a a|Ma Iba gaaaral ravaaaaa af Iba blaad. aad afvoa tba faadl anaiag frooi iba aala af Iba aautai IMfebaMd with tba borraarad moaay. Tba avaarity wfaM ba ampla, aad a •lifbt rm-rndfuti >«Kipta af tba Ulaad aboaU ba aa c aarafad la (MrabaMi iIm 1 1 i I t .' £.1^ k if*. 1 'N i I I LAND oomuasioM 29 Mm. If •••,••• mtmA mor« b«l lM.40a •««• !• b« 4«dl Willi M « aliort ii«M k» if*Mrfti«4 •■ ik« asMi »v iIm iMAalry. an^ Um oMtfaiitM af Um 0«vw«aMi r«4wW TIm •4vaalag« af Um M94« af oaavarting ika lasaraa aia m abtiava, iIm ak^iiaaa la it ao tmm aa4 m ttiviai. llMt iIm aadar- akaa4 bag la Mb«iit la liar Mmymf*t (iovaramaai Uia jiraanaiy af faaraataaiag a laaa, which thsf hare au tf^abt woaW h« Ijjiiiy tr?r;r«-* *»• •»— l«l«««l aaiUMitMa. Tka CawMBJiaiaatffa faal thai it may ha going bajaa4 ihair daiy !• aaha aach a Mggaatioa, hat ihav hopa that liar Mnjasty** OatanNMaM will rvgaf4 Iha ca«« af l*rine« Cdwani UUa^ ■■ aiaay i iaail. Ma grkvaaeaa haviag •praag froai iha injadwioaa ■Mda i« arhiah ita ba4« wara arigiaally givaa awav. AaMMiag that iha Crawa will graal aa4 iha Colaav aeaafi Ihia gaaraaiaa, lha«a t amaiaa la ha eaa«i4ara4 iha aacarily arhiah aaghl la ha Mkmwd, ht iha faithfal applieatioa aa4 ra|Myniaal of Iha laaa y hafra«ra4. l*haaa faada oaghl aal la ba iaita4 ap with Iha (Saaaral Kavaaaaa af iha C«»laay, bat oaghl la b« aaacaily g«ar4a4 frani aii«appr«afialiaa. frma aaapicioa >%( party hiaa. m palHical ia4iraeiiaa. Thia coaM ba aRaei«4 by aach gaania aa Har Majaaiy'a MiaMtara waaM apprvta. k niaaaara af ihia aharaciar araa aagga^ia^ by Mi Lxbaaehara, iha Cakiaial km IIM. aarf a laaa. la iha aiiaal al XlW.tVO. waa a4vaaaia4 ia ISM by Lar4 Ulaalay. thaa Caloaial ■aaraurv, an lairadaeiag a Bdl la Parliaiaaal la tha aama a4aal. TWt Ml «ai aahaa^oaaily arith4ra«rat fur raaaoaa arhiah 4a aal taty 4iaiiaclly appaar fraoi aay papara aabaiitia4 la tha aa4ar- Ahhaath U ii aal iaipr(>habla that doabia may hata ariaaa aa la tha ahimy af iha Calaay la rapay tm larga aa ainoaal. a gUnea al ila praaaai fiaaaaial eaaditioa will ohoar thai thia raiiaf may ba fivaa ariihaai aay riah la iha maihar eoaatry. Tha raraaaa af Priaca Ldward laiaad lacraaaad itnm a i l.ali 14a. U, ia IMf la 141. IM Sa. 104. ia ISM. aa ihal it mora ihaa 4aab t a 4 ai M yaara. iha aanaal iacaaaa. la raan4 aambara. haiaa II. SM. It « apparaal. ihaa, that wiihaai diatatbing iha lardr, ar ro4ac>'r««i nn ;ift,SM. at JL% par raat ; aa H la aoi imprulMbla that flta yaara waaM ba ra^aira4 lu parch lao ap tha raut««, 1114 atpaatl Iha laaa la a4vaauga. it aiighi happaa that tlia ravaaaa wno 4 iaaraaaa aa faai aa iIm laiaraai waa ra^aira4. withaat aay ineraaaa hi Iha lariM m aiaiMaUea at taa apprapriaiioaa. iiai, aaaaming that a aMfa rapi4 aaavaraiaa af Iha laaataa waa praciieabla. aaS ihai ia ihraa yaara tha wbala laaa waa aipaa4a4. by that lima, It.MO af a44itiaaal ravaac wtfal4 ba iawiag inia iha iraaaary aa4ar tha ol4 unC. aa4 thara woal4 ba bat XS,400 ir pravi4a for by iaaraaaa4 laaaiiaa. .04 that aaly fa/ Iha aharl pana4 af lara yaara. $n. L.~-y.aiiB'^~»'><5»- 29 11 villi •IUm • at«M ro«M ^ iMir "l^iy ltU«* •• ijadieioti* IV •••^ lyntaal ot ght to bv » ..f p^«y a Colonial •mo orira cuoaidcra il a naranniil il*gr*d »i i . J * '( ■ II f T w ill. c^H ' J '1 LAND comcnnoiiutti. 31 ft M ill kkabiUMt af Lvwar CttM^t, to wIm« Mi il vmIw •ai MigBMrkl 4Mt w«r« m bsHMM* whiU oM warM iaipr«»> MM Iaala4» ■• mmmt twwa — w a oroary of eolloeliag rooia mai aapportiag ofietiooa ia E4«rar4 Ialaa4 wbat liaa'eoatod to bo popoiar or praelieablo al It io, tboroforo, iaiporalivo opoa all ibo partiaa eooeornad ta eoavoft tbia tonaro. Agraiiao qaoatiaoa bow oceopy iha poblia ioooaaaatly ia tbia fina Coloov, lo tbo aicioaioo of all politiaa. A pabiio maa ia taiaad ia proportioo aa bo ii i 1 ci ■abaotvioat to iho pr'opriotora. or frioadly lo Iho laaanla, not for iIm aioaaaraa of ioioraai improvomoot or iBiare«ilonial polioy ba Bay aropoaod; aa4 Iha inteilaeioal aod aocMl Ufa of inia poupla ia oiaaaatod aad friilarad away by diapoloa aa4 ooaionltoaa iotriaMalal to tbo iaiaro«l« of all partiaa, la addrcaaiag tbaoiaalt at to ibo raaiadiaa, Iba Commiaaioaora fraaly adaiit,— lat. That ibo ariaiaal graau wora iaiprovidont, aod ooghl ■aw to bava p.-iMad. Mly. That all tbo graala waro liablo to forfoiioro for broach of tbo ooaditioaa with raapoot to aottlamaot, aad might havo booa aaoboatad. MIy. That all iho grania might bato boon practically annallad by Iba oaforcomaoi of qoii iant« aod that iha laoda coold hava baoa aoiaod aod aold by tha (Jrowa at tarioac limoa, withooi iba aUabloat impaaebmont of ita honor. Wbila tboaa admiaaiona ara mada in el oar and ipaciSc laa- Ufa, lU« i*i*«lM*tgM iMiMa, talM* ttaMa la lUfokwa, ifctiv |va«l» baaa aC ^kfaai. ja^ily 4aa. aa4 agai a4, fcf aataa^ asf aawaai iImi ilwy mM km aakarf la fafaca ll m4m W ra«i««a aaaaa la iIm Caiaat , a«4 la catfy aai Ika fillaf of UM iip wa l UaaanMMM, M •faali ilMjr ava aa^ar aaali laHif V laay fayaai a nsafai I Wiia ll ai aataai llMir laaia, aal aaly ••k iIm ptMk a|»iaiaa aC iJba laUai. bat af ilw IjafMa, aniaii Umm. wkli a* ^a«a» la aaairal ilia I aaal O t M iaiaia i , aM mtA bai rfiii < i» lii j ii af aaf •iMlfail kiiat f i r waa ft ikaf aaal a^iaiaaaT Haaat • aaa II uT I' if ! 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(MM* l», Ik* ytii— at MM. ■•«• «li«i !•«•« fllMali iIm fny iiaii far a iMf Omm Um aa4«f«^«4 rkmmkmi iIm Uliaf ikal bf mkkm ihm 99m* aMMlly *«{^l«t«4 %• k* rai4 •• a Immm «C llit >al r a h i»Ni. tlMrt e»aU. MiMMiii^ iIm 4|M. mtf^mm t4 Maaaga* « aa4 mIm* clMrgaa «• Um •«ia««i, iv a f a t al faia far iImi v^I4 U fait !• alt MMMM. a«4 4#<««w«m iIm ptaa af 4 Iaa4 ai wm iIm lalaai Aciiaf •• ilUa Mwf. ilwy ka«a ptaaa aa M< Maainaa, aa4 M«fa«a4 uMaa 4r»«a Umm iIm eaaaaa • ••- » -•/ I* '. # -•• «' •_: • VMM**, •«■* M» •••* dUr a bkarlaaa iii«Mii|aiMM« iaia ilw falwla aaVf^i. »4li ikaaa rviarM, iIm ttmwtmmm* o( iba ivaaairf , iIm faai ralla. aa4 a«» ««MMa aifai af iM laa4la«4« «• iImw lMa4«. >lMf iMt* fa a«- MMlff Was 4«l««a %* Im l aaala n aa iImI •• g«aaral (ala aaa IM itai, la afMfata a««« iIm wlMla titmmi, mt cvaa aval Um «ImI« af a aiafia aataia, »m1mmi tfrafhiaf M i fti fr M Ujaallaa. TaliMg Ika arlMla I«iaa4 il w a^faraal iImi waajp eaaa>a nav •iaai llM valaa af bii4. A aaa^ aava m iW aaaai M wliiali iJl r««Nt, ar ilM kmmi af a livav fal ml Maaaal aia4. May W Mara MlaaMa ikMi aa Milta4 farM. iMaravar WgMjr aaiiivat«4. Il ' I Ml Im fair l« c aMpa l a fffimtm •• aall a mM aiia.wlMi fcr iM«. al aa avatafa ifiwi Mi«lM Im aiiaitaMy affliaj ta • f IbnM raMMf fit Xi; aar »aal4 ii W lair la 4a4oal Cmm llM aliiMM p»aytlaiar af a« aruia. «lM to4 iaka« aara !• |al ••If §mi laaaiM, aa^ la aaHa n lUa taaia taaalatly. iIm mam f« aaai^a fcr laaa aa4 aaflacilaa llnl ttaaM ka a^MaM^to ataat «hara iIm laaaaia arata ja^j i araal, m Um afaaia aaralaM. A gaaaral rala iImI traaW a|p|rfy Curly la 1^ 11 94 ■KTORT or THB iIm rMl nrfli tbt tM CMM. tr M Um b«4« af Mvigabl* MrMM*. wmW «•! Mil • iMi MMptabU mUU TIm piotmiky i» a MarkM. m tk* aataklitki n aat m a aiaaaikiwi liaa, aiay t arf la (ka aiinii of It at M par caal. tka talaa af ika Iaa4. Tka |» fM a« f ar akiaaaa •f aliif liaibar, af awawpy ar wkiia aaa4y Mil, May m adact aa •varaga ikai iha injaalica ikal waaM e««raga ik« f«aliag« af a la»llM4 mm mmm tiim of a ra«4 waaM ka at jaa y ly ivMitiwi bj a laaaal urn tka oik«f . ladaviry ar i4l*a«««. |wi4 kaaiik. or a tick baiilf . a karra» kaj* m maajr ckiWroo, ■flr««t ika fro^aeiiTa* ■aaa af farma : aa4 it m i|atu iaiaoaMbla ta aaalv aav raU ikai tatll Maal ail alaaMa, or f eat tkraagk 4iAaaliiaa ikal ara ff» Bat tkora ia aaotkar raaaaa wk? tka a4op«MMi 9€ a g aaarat rata m a Mo4a of eaavorawa, eaaaot bo oatoftaiaad. If pat lorn, all • praprioiur'a UmC farm* wamUi hm i—4*\j kaaf kt ap kj tka ac* Mpaaia. «n4 ail tka «rarac, wttk tka oi u aaaaa of ag^«ry, Uia- liaa, aa4 litigaii"*. waaM ka lafl ap«a kia kaa4a. If iko Brm» •ga waa raiMNl lii|li aaoa|k la eotar Ikaaa co»iinfr»ria«* aa4 pralaat ika laa^larrf, ik« poomr data of ia«aata enaki aal p«r* •kaaa at all; ika avil* af ika pfwa*at •,T**am waaM k« parpaiaa* la4. aa4 ika appoiaimant af ihia Comiaiaaioa woaM kava baaa laMawad ' v oo pfaciioal iwaiw* Paiir .^itilMiw laat alao aCart ika valao of laatf. a«4 a rata tkoi w«al4 «ppaar nir at aaa pevMNl. Might apcraia kMarioaalir at aaoikrr : ikia May ko illaa«iaio4 b* •fMMM of Ika baai Maaagad ««al«a aii ika I«)aa4. Ihivaa, aAor Maiaro r«i«ciia«, lo abaaJaa all Hopa af a aola> tiaa af ikair 4UReaiiioo la ikia diractioa, ibo CuMmiaaieaara kara iaally 4aaida4 lo a4up< loo aiinpio prtociploa. IM- To giva la avory loaaai of lownakip Uoda aol eoMtag wilkia tka foank ao^ Gftk provwiooa bvfrio-aAar nia4a, tka rigbl 10 pareliaaa tka tao4 oo wbick bo litaa M. To giwa lo loMltonl titd lonaat ika aocatiij af a fair val< aaiioa of ika Ua4 iaeaao of JiiWoM**. Ta ataara a jaai vatoaiioa proas^ta auiay dilBealtiaa Tka CaawiaakNiora wara at Aral 4w p a»ai l la racoMaMn4 ikat ika aya- la«i «kick ka4 baaa fiaa^ la orork wall, ia ika aala of ika Wartall aa4 Halkirk aautoa, vboaM ba a4opia4, aad ikal ika 4aty of walaaiioa akaaM ba aaaigoad lo ikraa Cat Miaaiaaari la ka appaiaiad b* ika (lovaraaMat of ika lalaall. Bat ik« maja ia opaa ta aorioaa okiaetiaa. Wkaratka aaiataa aia parclMM^ b? tka I'olaay, iHa riaima af tka propriatora ara oiiiaaaiakr^, aad ibey kava oa loagar aajr ialaraoi ia tka valaaiba. Tka <2avoraata«t kava oaly tha goo- aral laiaraai whiak aaiarally ariaoa aat af a doaira tkat ihair pal i i y akaald ka aa r aaia f al, aa4 ikal Ika aparatioa wti^nH ka aaif aaalaiaiagi PalHieal aaaaidaraiioaa laay oparala ia tka •alaatiaa af ika vaiaara, kal aaaa appaiaia4, it ia kar4ly raaaaa- aMa la aaa p a et ikal tkay aai apaa aoy parly pHaaipla* im anaafiag Ika alaaaiicatiaaa. If. var, tka aatalaa wara aal •avakaaa^ ky tka Qavaniaiaat,«a4 praptiaiary ialaraal, ar poaa- lar kilaaaea, wara kraagkl la kaar apaa tkak Jaciaiaai, ikoy ! \ I ;i h I' •aaU kai41y. if aalaab j » ci KiM to iliic csatM ar*. ikal &• afi^iealMMi of |a iHani«aU«>a ia aiaa> ifcaily aai aliainakla wiibia aay paiia4 arkieb aaa ba •Iia«ra4 lb««i far aMkinf lk#ir awar4> NaiariibataiMi.ni tba obi«eiily to paaa apoa bit riglNi, «»ay. ia iba apwi>Hi ml bmb landlorda aad laaanta, oat- waigb tba n b j a et ii wn ta ibi« ai'Kla of adjaaiMMoi, «rbi«k tba aa- 4arMgnad bava •» (la«ira to rnacaol. la tba baaitiaoa nf lifa, a apa»dy aad final aatliamaat, avaa if k IM aat aia«t ••••• •*• III .if ?tinn9 L this po««r 'h«e.nM»H [tn^lnrdi who I of Ik* t«i> ,•1 who* th« llor4*« •^•t« It, wbieli M Tb« t«*A- [fiUim •MhMf Mt tiM Micv nimim 9mm <«t Iw iIm m ib » I a^ it* in^ af f t fat i 36 uroftT or tvi Il h»m% ilU« ■4iin«4 iImi iWra «h*il Im • fwy« aara (kvaafliaal Hm M4«4 v«^ IWM^, aMM mkm «M4a aMM to ■4i p ii4.« wa4» vtMoll, • «-«« '■* M M^lM^a -«■-->-»- * f ^ - _.«.« •• •- • ^^^ ^ - ^ • • # " -■■-» •'•*' •••«B««y ^ ^^V* M f«« w ■•• ia im ii ii I mmk • aaaifalawy wmOtt, wM la A* laMal a« a^^w««aMjr af taliiwiMg bM mum m % paviO. m4 m f%mm^Um laran. TW bMM ti iMi «•• -f t*ai mmmUtmi I* ba |ni4 : il It ibt Mif •>•• arlMMb arifl aaCalf g«44a •■ §mtum iktwm^fk iIm far* |i«i>i ibi nf ii tttL TbM MMttM wba tmrntm -m /« <« <«l*. tb** ba ••iMl#4 •• • 4llli ■■! af l«Mr MM. • 4m4 cwitayiac ib« fea \n mf\* id iba« fafart. wbaia dM fi9 9 m % la pay by iB«nlwiiwM. ba sImII b«va iba fhnikt^i^ bal lb* hMi4Vit4 abatt aai ba baaa4 I* aawtrt • \mm «MI mm Jilt a« an M iMM; mt ibdl iba Iwiiat bftva %%m^mm ibaa It >r4r« M l >n«fc4iW iba 4abL ta4. TbM laaaa ii mImh« U«4« •!« aai wib M yaan fa** fbM«, mmI wba ibn uf f 4acJMw la fwy ibai mmmm, ant las- 4ar •• ibair U a 4l a>4a «b«l ib*| aMsalav iba valaa al ibaiv rnumm. Illba Wih4bM4 4wlaMa m taaafU iba ■w mrt aiWai. Iba tabM •ban ba a^h***^ ^f atbuiaiiaa. If iba aaai laaliiaJ « iaaiaaiaA by iba swaMl, iba laaaa l ilMN fiv iba •%ftmm ; if il it aal« ibaf •ban U ^4 by iba Ua4lM4. If «ba •a^i awai^ai U luiiiii ia 9m^ 4i» r i n al af •«• |m« ca«i. la ba allatvi^t if aai, ^a* laba»a4abf yaaHt latfaba-ato «<*^ !s» ;!&« XI^ i«a •Jly. fbaC Iba raai abaH ba «a4aM4 ia yrapiniaa la iba i»* •labHaaAi |wal. bai •• a»a4a «ball ba aPt w al lar aay «aall bmalantu, aalil \*m iK«a yaa«« %t rm n allaaNft4 by ibM araai bata bMM ^i4. ai>« wbila aay taai aaa»aia| aAar iba a4|aMaMai af iba tahK af iba fana «a«aa«M 4aa. 4llily. TbairofTMianwbahayaaiaMta ibaal.Mtaarat, at iInm arba 4aalta la rMaai ^fiiaalat laaia la ibal aaia«i« ibaM aal ba aaaipalM %• fmt% «Mb .aab aa4ar ibaa a«r«f4« •ibly. tlMl laaaM aa4ar • latai aT laaa ibaa 49 yaai •al ba a ft r i a d by tbia aiaa«4. Tb> CiiaiiiiiataM «aaaai alaaa iWa Uaaab aT ibak itWMM afaia aafaaanag iba«r t w ati at iaa. lb«« iba ipawbiaa af •ba a ^ aiaa. by iba aaga n aiiaa «f a l«aa ibtaagb iba lai|rtr«| QaaataaiMM. piaaat u a4aaaiata« aa awailSaai ibal ibay aaaatl Ita awaafta iiaaaiaiial ba ■4ay i iai. ia y»a^a»aaaa la all aibar 9m iba aaiilaaiaai af iba«a aabap^ 4 iaf ai at. Awania i 1y It y ta f afat4,ibaa ibay )l f\ / i; IH4 1^^ h ^ i » >i ii 1 ).i. ¥ LAKO COMHMnOICRIItl. 97 MflWt «ali raaarr* > IttT al • liali aT M« faal Ml »i4ill, TAm^H laia«4, lar iIm •#• af iIm ^ i|ari« ia •etm4»— villi liw fslMJ af iIm ^*a4, iMt f«M4 ky •BfattHMa to hava Mas a« Mnfattiia f aa w ta ti — . !!•«• flaaiM. wiMfa mi avail raaaraaliaa attiia4, ••4 «ilMr« iHiva Immm trMMa4 4mmn to ltMi>«rator mmHi. §• kitila at to « JAary Im« a y ag a|i, wkicli te — If w wi ahiif , aSMliat vt^art, Mi4 Mai at iW iMaia af iIm aaua afjiaatf I 4a»alapwiat */ iImi T^^'mfm. €H Naw Vmaiwitli. MtoSl* • MMiM •tMTVtlMtt aSf ta d I- 3S KKPURT or TUI la PrtM* C4««r4 l«l«M, Jariag tli« ImI iMm m l—rjmn, iImt* appHirfl « in«Ml pmiauing inerMM* ia iha aaport of bm, aa ea«par««l wiik fofnitir yaara. Ytr««a of Prinra Rdward Ula»4 aboal^ baabaa4aaa4« aa4 th«l iKa iiirritory. ikaa aoaiinallj dadkaiad la a braaab of iadaairjr wHicb will niaf a aaraljr gvow fraia iha iiparaliaa af aa« laral aaa«a« ib«a froia at|vaati«i»a« ai4a. ahnala ba loA la iba ■araaaiv*4 wSirb hiva boaa aaaalljr rajiaad iata a««aa*fiaa, aad iiap" I aad caliiraioil (if poaaibla al all) caaM aaly ba aeeaf«pli.>fieii bjr moana of aipaaaiva aa4 hirraa«ing liiigatiaa, randarad aliil mora ambiiia«ra4 bj a aoaaa of injaaiiea. Il ia rfiAeail la gal ovar aa arqa i «a aa a aa of aaarif a eaalai ff ia lha aajajraiaai of pmparty aair«Mf«alla4 by iba ot«ifciaa af a ooraMal aaaf iMfNil raaarwd ia iHa graal, a«aa ibftagb ib«ra ba aa fltalala uf l«ii«iia(i4 , ia maajr porta atalatiailjr rwcmir4 fnm itM aofih point ta utm •••( i^MtSt, :s th? g'—^t «>o»«o wbick eaa« aiitaiaa iha bigbi of Priona P^ward lalaad. aa4 wbieb ia Iba prinaip^l raaort uf Afa^rin:«a lt«hafmaa. ih<*ra ia. aad baa ba«ta, aa aarradlv aa ean bo giihorod f«oia obaarvalioa, aad lha alala- maala of ihnaa orhu havo long"^ livi^ oa ibai ao4ai, a raaadiag of lha mainland al iho rata **i Iwa faal a yanr. Oa aaa af liia lalaada ia Riehtanod Rajr, ihara waa fnrmarljr a Praacb baryiaf gmaad, arhicb ii ma«l bf» aaaamod, wao arif iaallj aama dialaaca abova 'ha watar iaval { li ar M jraara aga eiidlaa WM «aaba4 aal bv lha aaa. Pm'm lha aorth poini la lha araai ptial. whara lha aaa«l ia beldar and mora ra«fod, ilia rra«^ing h«a b«an al iha rata of aaa fool a yaar, and ftnm lha «•*«! poinI lo lha aaat poinI, aa iba aaalb and convai aida «( iba lalaod* at iba rala of aaa fool aad a half a yaar. Al aaa point, aair Capa P^mani, witkia lha mamary af liTtag m«a,lha mainlaa*! hta r««rdod '100 f»«i. Thaa il may fairly ba ■aaamad rhai al laaal 100 af iba ftOO faal bava goaa aiaaa Iba 4aia af iba granla. Itia axfureamaat "f tba l«'g«l * t^bt la tha aaaamaai at iba i! I I : ^m^ ^M lAVD (OimiKBlONMH. 39 ifi ' u i f '■ fitmmt day. »»e« in tkm p«rt« of •!•• r^wr^ation* whirh h«7» MM b«v«i Krta^iU e«Ili«al«^ ot iM)|*ri>vr Crnwa fa»« Jli» f.a •iM'pU in ili« ftO» fMM o««r which ih«» »«a«ni«ni «a« :u vitvhd ; lu oil.fca ilia *«« (•H waa ri>arivrd In iba rtn«n. bat <*al) dr (ha aaniM pHr|io«« lor whirh iha aa>rmr>nt la iha tirm ri»a «•• inlrnilril ; litaiiffura tha Cruvrn iiaalf woalil ba aiopit^ f m ui g'aitiifit ihr rfvrita. tn U«« !«»>t. V,.., f« —y ..:hrr jr:-t— '*•-•» •»••« "f 'h* fi»liai», Ttt ««i«l«> rnaipliralinoa whirh hii«a ■(•raiij:. and mifthl lirra* tAtr aitriig lioni Iha p«*r|>««aati«in uf lii* ^^ r»-«rrir«a, iha aa«lar< flifiiMl Nia cVanj uf n|>inNia ih.il in ild thm niiiir fdanf iha tut or iown«hifi. rr*t r«itif ovar tha 1041 r*rl iHm i> larmani nnly. lh# Uiid • •iia(M«iliii|r *urli laarrva ahoald ltan<*rf»rth ha hirld hy iitti t«|-%l imnria iliriruf, and ikoaa rliiiiiir| andar lh**iii, fa a fieni »ach raa«niri«i or aoy claim ihrrfio Thf p..lir> nf bfrthing op (h^ ri«ai«rt»'a l«i»8i»|r af»uni#d( it ia with irfpirnra m ihr ci««» of fr«nt<«. wlirr iht- f •irp* maai now Uf lukrn lo gi\» litla. Tu whom ia it in ha giv«>ii ' \\y iK'; iiBrrrnd"t «>l ihr r4«aNl and tarrilorial ra>laiul, on ihr r»lali!j»liliirril uf tr«(inn»ihtr f lov* •rnmrnt, lhr«r ri**rf«ra licrniitr the liKiprrty of tha l.ural (ittv> rramant. and if jurir* muld hi* fuand In rnriy i<4i ihc i w, pia> aaaKH»a rnald nr naghi lo hr f^rowaiablr in ihr nrdinary way, by whirh iho ('trwn rip<'U intradara friMit iha pabiic duinaia. tiarb • CfHirar, htmava^. in ihe praarni caaa, nruntd h;«d to ^TCS* r^-ra-!'**?, r.rt^ ••• •••■•«' tM4iarrr« III art aainiualica In ihn Caaaa of iha grniila laal nu'itsionrd, lht>iii;h ihr !•■« rvniainrd and •nil ia in ihe ('town, yal ihr po«ara«Min aura ihr laawing of iha Cania haa bri^n in ihr |irani«'»!4 of ll.a landa of wlsirh tha ra«er vea r« iha aaa frnni, or ihair rrpitacntaiivva *1 ha haioraof aarh paraoffi^ hava bald, iitiprt>v«-d. and orcapi^d Hfidar thnii aa own- •ra. Tu giva la iba oii|tinal graniaoa, or ihrir rapieaanialivea, ■■ anmndiiiooal fca at iha praaant time, waald bo i|roaa iitjufilica to Iha Uaaaaa. To giva to iha laaaaaa woaid br ri|unlly unjuat (• Iha « nam in (t-, aa ptaring a r!ear bait (>f frarhultl ba*wrrn Ihair landa and the »ca, and viilaaily putting tbaiii at tha uiricy •f tha r^oaoia. Tlin M|aitablo lighla of boili pariiaa oaghl lo ba raafceird. Tbo rraliieiiun of Iha Crown to grant for any bat fitbing por< <«aa •ubl to ba aliuluhad. 'Iha only moda by which jnaiira can ba •facioally dana, ia lo pnt an and I'l aarh r*k..rT«a. and iai iha land bn Md in foo, aa if (ho aaiun liad abaolalaly paaiad at iha tiiua of tbo original granta« and that iba graotaaa. their rapraaant- •livaa or tana nta, aba 1 1 ba bonnd bv all contrneia which may •fliMi (bo aaaio aa if tbo raaorvaa had baaa ioclodad in laili *?*.-*; '► 89 40 RCPOBT OF THK Kirh hii9« ) lh« Ir^ei n» Pfigilitl lirali. lit in iid lit en In llin rtminrd and uing of fhn IM rtf*ervei icttcnfMrli III «• own- ivvnialivei, M« iiijupticn nlljr unjust il L«»i»r»n lh« uiricy rc«|'i'Ci'd. •f {tnr* <•*•• lira can b« and let lh« aivd ai ih« rapraaanl- ihicb oiaf cd io >■(■■ graaia, b«t m litl* aeqnirad by a4v«ra« y iawawM Is b« tflMMl. TIm raMrvaa baing antircly aboliaLa4 , il ramaiM w b« ooaai- 4m r m4 m wbai way fianingatattoM e«a ba Mearad. la tba apiaioM «f iba aadavaif aad. eaaiMarea aad aalf-ialaraal will, aa a gan- «r«l rala, rag alata aacb naiiara. and aa tba fiakariaa eaaaol ba •arrtad oa ia a ea«iiiaa«NM ball raaa4 Um wbala lalaad, aadi c— arwaiiMaa ara. aa ib#y bava provad, aaMparalivaly taJaalaaa. Tba barbtwa ara npan and availabia la all aaraaaa ; wbai ia ra^airad ia iIm righl la aaeara. al a r a a aaanbia rala, ia parta wbara ithiag alatiana eaa b« jadicioaaly aalactad, aa naeb groaad •a will aaawar ina pnrpoaa. I na rignt lo mmwU Um mtmKUum ni' «rlM««aa, baildmga, and tba aajoynaaal ai atelaaiva Brivile|aa kalow bigb-walar NMrb b a loagu to tba Oavara«cal. PraviaMNi alMald ba nMda ibai partiaa ambarbii^ ia Iba iabsriaa, wba nay iMva abiaiaad a graal fraoi iba govaraoiaat af aay partiaa afiha laad balaw bigh>waiar HMrh, and ahatl raqaira la laaka ata cli aao •o tba adjoiaiaa ahara far tba fMirpaaa af praaaeatiag tba bcaiaaa. wilb aflaci, and aball aat ba abla la abiaia* by parebaaa fraoi Cba awaar. a aaiubla lot aa raaaeea^!? laraw* aay ba aa i bar i aa d la apfoiai aa appraMMr, aad ra^jaifa iba owoar la da tba aaiM, wba, witb aa anfMra. to ba aalaatad by tba Iwo appraiaare, abaald proeacd la lay oif a pariioa af taad« aal asfaadiag aaa •ara, ia a loealiiy — iba abata aioai aailabia for tba parpaaa af •airyin^ oa •* fabariaa, and ia aacb a aray ta lo ae aa a i aa aa Ullla injar) .< p aaaibla la iba awaar, aad la aaka a valaaiiaa lb«aaf; Iba parly appl)ing far aaab laad, aa payiwaal af Iba awiiaal af aacb vaiaaiioa u tba awaar, la ba eo aa aaiklad la • 4aad i baraaf ia faa ainipta. Tba Cotwiaaiaaara tbaralbra rapart tad award, ibal Iba r«- aarvaiinaa for iabary parpaaaa, eoataiaad ia Iba origiaal graaia «f iba lawaabi|« of Priaaa Edward Salaad, aballiag aa iba aaa- alhwa, ba abaadaaod. aad Iba paiiey wilb fafaraaea lbaraia> aa^ gamad by Ibia rapan, ba adaplad. IBCaiAT. lit Aekrmit mt tkt pr99fni limt, tf tki 9rigi»»i Ormutt fw —n^ftrftirmmntt af Can^iliaar — fa MHtUmtmL f raviaaa la tba eaaaiaa by Har Majaaly bi IMI af tba Crawa %mi Ttrriiorial Ravaaaaa m iba laland la iba LMal GatarmaMat Crawa bad, by rapaniad daclaraiiaaa, daaada d ilaalf af Ibt war af aaabaaiiag tba arigiaal graata, aad da ak rad aay »aa- iara af thai ebaraeiar loMracticablo. Tbia b alaarly aapraaaai la Lard fSray'a daaeatca la 8ir Alaaaadar Boaaanaaa, af iba IHbofialy. Ittl. ** Raaaaiod appliaalicaa bara baaa aada al diAraat liaMt la Nar llaj|ao«y*i uavaraaMal la eaaaaat la aMaaaraa la dapriva Iba prapritiora aadar Iba arigbwl graata af tbair aaialaa, aa aa- aaaal af tbak baviag aaebaaiad la iba Crawa. by raaaaa af tba •aa- Oiilliaoat af eaiMlilloaa- Tba appliaaiiaaa bat t baaa raaialad — graanda wiib wbieb tba aartaapoa d aaaa balvraoa aaaeaaaiva ■aaralariaa af Suia aad Liaalaaani Oavaraara af Prtaea Edward laland, aaparially abiaa tba yaar IBM, will raadar yoa aaflkiaatlf faaiiliar. || ia aaly aiy parpaaa aaw la aiaia, Ibal Har Majaaij'a I LAND COMMISSION KRs. 41 I 'i !l I s 0«vtraint«H TmI ibcmMlvM b»«a4 !• idher* !• lh« 4»ciiii«>«. to nf%»lr4\y ■tlnpinl by my pre«*«Mora in ihi« m»il»r, an^ (o Mat* lliat'lMiih on lli« groandt of j«i»|irs *$ \Hm Undrd |ir(i|iri«lor«, and • f iHe pcrmaacat intrrptta oi tk« emiiniSiiMy of I'rinft* M* wari I»lan4, ilt«y rvfard turh a mraaara aa iiti|nd«>d lo irMMir«>r !«• fhw l«i •-% ..I t;...^. 7. , !d t:;: d:rrr*'j al v»rianr4> with lh« inirri>«la of iha l*hnd. Ninety 'liiar yaaia ^x" <'■'* grant* w«*ie lataad ; fii )nara n((| ihn condititina uf ihu »rltl«!iii«iit (•> for'iisn l'roli«tNtii«, >tn which Ihev Mrrr« i*i(««d. wirr biiikrii; ft4 ya«iicd an^l no failrilara fitr aarh birarh b.i« l>4#n rtac i«d. In the rii«««AltMin Ika rii.traclflr and %N*ai* «>f lhi> I ind« huvN nhrird : iii)f*r«r«rd, CaitiYttrd, and p.tid f<)r. iii<|itirttd ti) | ai« lia^e, >r!giiihip ra«aia«. If it ««re |Mia«ibln th.«l any roMntry could lid. «^hf>rr, •fiar a crnturv th« |»-««s ••iiMi > f |irii|iirl) could Im* dKiurlifd f.if ■oa-|»ciforiiianCff oi an iihuurd midiiOMi lii th<; oriKinal grntit, ihn auth«*rity hatitig ih» |Mi«*fr In fi.rori « li>«* fotftMiur** du nn all •thai |N>riod, not only bring falU rogr^ix.mt oi Ibe wiiii«aion tn ^rfoiro, bat ari«i tlly df(*laiiiiK ibni |>«*ifiit(iiaiirf nhnuld ii<>| b« rrquiri-d. and «ri| .ii'»rinf in ih^ M|»»ftdirtif«*», i»i,pf«>».iii*fii<, and tranaiiti«*in of tha ^imarjr title would cat ry with it the tillea of the amall fieehold- •ra who hold ardar it, aa well as the iiuproveineuta 'jf the tenants. Iraoeris and jariea coald be foand to work oat saeh a priaeiple, M free people woald endara it lung. Rat if the aacheet eoald ba carried oal, and these lands beeama Viaiad ia the l^cal tiovcrnnent, how eoeld they be disposed of, a«d who woald become the owners ? If pal ap al pablie aae- lioa. it does aoi follow that the roan whoae lab«ir had made a rarm valaable. or wnoee money had parchased it before tha es. •heel, woald be certain of aecariog hia improvemeale. Ifdia- Maed of at a private aate, tha praciiea woald lead to the grusacst lataeritiaai aad eorraptioa. ) 42 AirOftT or TRB TiMra « •• iiglM «• mkiak rSf yri wi MoliMt •! iIm UUmo •• lk« • M dacided aa oa iha qaralkia of aaehaai. Vf ta iha tima vi pasaing iha Land Tai Acl. II (jco. 4* e. 17, (IIM), il la elaar thai iba righl la tha arraara had navar baaa arhally abaaduaad. Tha librtality of iha Uriiiah (iafaraaiaBl, ia iha aaaifnalaiioaa ofTarad lo iha praprioiora ia IfOt, waa an atidaaoa af iia daaira for iha advanrnaiaai of iha laiaad; and* had iha caminalaiiana al ihal lima baan eiaeied from iha praprtatora, and aipaaded la ioeal improtaniaala, aeua aiionanaat aoald liava baaa mada for tha prtjadica of iia proaparily raaalliag from tha moda ia which tha laada had brna ntiiviiialiy narr II Cao. 4, e. 17. by aialiag, ibraagb iba Coiunial tfacraiarjf, Lord (ilaoalg — mmmm LAND COMMISSIONERS. 43 :' I f^ 1 ** Tlftl aJI r«wl ia arrMr ■! lb* Mrio4 wImb tk« PfoviacMil Am II G«».4,t. 17, M c4Ntfirui«d awl cam* taio opciaiioii, MMl k« MMMiderW l« nav« b«M r««iiila4 by ib« aaikority of ili« 4mmi«Ii of titk Jaaaarv, I^U, bm ih«» ao fartbar rwmiMioa caaM hava baaa eaaUmplaiad by that dMiMieh. mot uaghl to ba allawad. villi iha aiaapiioa aiiaady •laiad uf lhrial («u««rniiieiit clearly mmiliedi and however liiila thn praprictora or (heir rrprearnta- livaa were eniiiird to tsrh aa act of grac^. yet tliuae arreara baviog been onca rentiited, it ia iuipoatibU lo ta|t|Miaa liar llaJMiy** (iovarnment liandtU over in 1831 ta iha l.ocul (tav- aroweo'i i'm iha •anemlrr of ihu raaual aud liTiilurial irevruaa, iIm debia whirh in lASJ hud U*-nn CuncelJed by the Trown. Tba Coiiiiiiiaiiioai*ra llii*r«'f«ire rrpoit nnd award, lliat provioaa ta tba transrvr ia IH5I in the |.ocal tiovernment of iha caaaal aad territorial riifhia and rrvtMiic^a. tha Trown had rt^mitted all arreara of (|uilreNl due ap to ilie period whan ilia Art II (teo. 4, a. 17, wa« confirmed and caiite into opnration; bat that iha right uf tha Local ft«iveraiu«nt lu iha revival of fuiura qaitrenia, aa the eipiration ol iha Acta impoaing a land las in lieu iliertiuli ii claat and aaduubied. CLAIMS or TIIK IlKHCKNIiANTH Of TIIK I.OVAI.IMTS. Tbal tba Layaliata, who aoa^ht hooiea in Prince Edward lalaad aAar tba coafiacatioa of ibair proaartiaa in the old revultad ■alaaiae, had atroa| claioia apoa tba Driiiah Ciuvernmaat* wilt ba aaivaraally adiaittad. That Ilia Majeatv'a (iuvernmeni, ia I7M, fail Iba fall force of iboea olaioia, and waa aiacera in ita deatra l* make a liberal proviaioa for tba luyaliaia, thara ia oa taaaoa ta daebt. Tbal aama of tba proprietara of Prince Rdward laiand. who, witb apparent willingaaaa came forward and ofTeied lo relioqaiah Cnione af tba inuirov ideal granta llia^ had received, fur tba aefll of ihcaa aafferera, ware aincera, it ia chat itabia to aaaama. Bat tbera ia too mach reaaon to beliava that auma of them w«>ra ■al itacara, and made iha • ITera bat lo covt^r iha nun fulfilment af tba candiliona of their graaia. That tha righia which iha loyalieta then acquired were not enforced, ie deeply to ba ragrallad; jal il m ioipoeaibla, for tba reaeoaa ataled by Lord I 43 44 REPORT OF THB John RoMell. ifttr the ItpM of thr. .JoariM of ft «^*«'f» *• rovive lh«m lo thit prrjadice of ili« pfr» ni uwnof" of ih« '""^ Bat. OT^n ftl thin divialico of lirnf, lh#? s-n-a of har«h opglorf and injofltico. whirh ^iill «ii«l«, oojihi. jf po-mbJo. lo bo ofuced from iho mind« •'! iimny drserving p-opl. , who proodly lr«co lho« 4oo««*til lr« in iiifn, the ronrm'-nliun of >»limo oroprrtioo lo lb« rvvohfd roliiniwi wan upr.-pl^d »• ■« iniTifnbU ntceMitjr, bftl who Dlili reictil wim lb»*_v fjjfd in iij«*«i«:o and de<^e|»t»o«, prtciited a|»on ih« if ni.r.'«'ofi r|>uit fUiti*!! •oil, aad under iho M«« wiiHu »ii. J uHu r Mgl.. . . -» . i ••• rr--'"'" The Oriii»h CoTrmnt.'n., Invii.jj for Miiinny yptra provided for Iho C'i%il I.mI «f »hf rnl«»ti). ih." «„„.ini««ion»-r» oroaid roopocifollf •ojg»N»t Mm tli-^ l'r«»vir'ri:,| rjitm miiot might, >t ft ■mall ■■crili-«», di«jM»«" of ihi4 o!d v.m «ii'»fi. fliore 1889 no ifiii'n'on ihi* Mjhj«Ti h«-» li-'an-lakoft h? tho Leginhtun! or inhnliic'rt)! of ilm lul uid. Fmiii 1851 lUo l«oc«l Govrrntncnl hi* lad iho ill'«p«>«i«l rf iIh* <*i«r r««i«« -■«. It %%iiu!il. Iinweter, to in Iha powrr of Iho l.or:il (lovrniiiriii, out «»f ihe lamU ccded lo ihem 10 IWI, or aince | ufrha*« d. t r ihiil inn\ hi-n nltrr bn purchaaei to giif»* 'o any dp-'-fn-lnni uf a ioytili*! wb<» c.oold p»o»o hiift do»c<" lid ihni hi« aiiri •!• r h.id noi |. iiMri|i I'od in iho diaiii- bftlioii oi l.ind whirb i>oiii«*of thi; prof rtPlor* fu'ily and huoorablj •npropriaird (ib«» bord ii of proof mi both ii"|M«cta being apoa Iho nppliraiil) a frrr ((rani rqui«nlpiil in iiunii'iiy to llio propor- tion ho would I o f niitl»*i( to a^ nurb d* »ri-nil.'iiil. had hia anceitor gono into iKjxnoonion and died Dciord. Thin rfinor of Iho Local Logit*liilurA. ibii llip und* rkij^iifd fffl tloy woiil I he oiccrdiaf Iheir duly wi'rr iboy morr Ibau npifr\(u'\) in rutgtat it. CLAniH OF Tin: it>:.sci:M>AN"is op thk orioinal lUKNCIl I MIA HIT ANTS. Th« claim* of iTfigm de^rondnnljiKf ib» |''f,.t.«'H tnH«b?!ssf9 of iho lolaiid wcrn rarnra ly |iir«*ed a|M)Q ih^ ('oiitiiiio*ioa. Il wa* .nltcgt-d ihal iht* f-'mich i«i-iib>r«, wImi wdii in ihe Island prior to iho trraiy of I7(i3, wno by that ir^aiy ronfirroed in ih* rifhlfnl occupancy of Utnir tanda, whi< h wrri* aabatqorolly grantod avay in 176?; and ihit lhoo«> grania of ihi* wlioie laland ■loti havo been mado in ifoorance of ih«t occupanev. ur ift vio- btion nf iho righia of ihe French. Though this ai.bjecl was not •peciallv referred lo the roniniis«ion<*ra. yei it appearod vary ocsirnblo ihat it ahoald bo diaposod of, aa ii aeenied to interest a brga tiase of iho inhabitants whose forefaUers had boon dove* from lands ihej thoaght iheir own, and who had ihomaalvaa •ttflored a good deal, either froiu ignurai.ro of ibeir righia, or,, aaaoniing ihat ihey had any. ftom incir piMCiical invasion. Having eiamined this subject in all iia bearings, tha undacT' aigned df«-m it ihair datv lo report, thai, aMuoiing the staia« Bants made by the French lo be iruo, and ibai their rights wera ■ot comprnrtiised by the facts of history, ibey would aeem i« bava beca harshly treated. Oat apoa ilie propnttors who hava mm LAND COIIMI8SI0NCBS, 45 ^MB is ■•4iei«rb«d poMMsion of their Ian4t for nMrly a OMtirT» Fii lii •• Ugal elai« eaa bow b« aatablMbad, aad it ia cUkt thai Ibt |slaa4 (*ovarBniaai, which waa aoc organtiMl till lonf aAar tha wrang oaoipUiaad of waa dona, caaaoi if aapaetad to inaka •laaaataM. Aa appaal i« iba Oritiah Govaramaat can hardly ba aaataiaad, if it ia jadgad by iha light ol'oar aariy Coloaial biatorj. Tba llritiah attampta at eolvaisaiioo ia all tha aMratima pre- viaeaa wara, aa waa vary nataral, oppaaad aad raodarad haiard- •aaby tha Fraach, who occupied iha allavial landa aroaod tha •Mj -f r— J. -ii 8=::= trf *••— , •»»* •»•«! haili forta at Aaaapolia aad Chigaacta. aad who, whan iba aaigbboariag p(«tiaaaa ww« i«mC««m! UvGi %»»isi tr cssqscst ssi tj trcst;, alill oocapiad Capa Dralaa aad fortinad l^iaiabarg with graal akill acd at aa aaormoaa aipaoaa. Priaca Edwaid lalaad (thca iIm lalaad of 8t. Jaha ) waa tha graaary of Capa Braloa, which waa bat lilila ealUvatad, ita iahabitaata baing chiefly oceopied with tha far trad« aad tha fiahary. It ia fair to aaaama that ia aU tiM aaaaaaraa aad policy of that pariod, which lad to tha aipalaioa of tba Fraaeh Aeadiana froai Nova Scotia, aad to tha l!^i' i i aaafiaaalioa of thair laada, tha Praach iahabiUota of tho lalaad of 8t. iaha participatad i if tkay did, thair daacaadaata ha*a ao foaaoa to eoaiplaia. Ilia aipuUMia of tha Acadiaaa ocearrad ia l7ftS. Tha graala to tho nropriatora of IViaeo Fnlward lalaad arara iaaaod ia 17tT, twolvo' yoata afiar tho landa of tha Aca- diaao wara ooaAncatad. Wara tha Fraach of Prioea Cdwatd lahiad aqoally gailty, or wara tharo aay pacoliar cireamitancao «vhicb gavo taooi a claim lo tho favoar and niarcifal coniidar- alioa of tha Britiah Govorntaeat, which coald aat bo ploadad oa bohalf of tho Acadiaaa of Minaa and Daaa Srjoar * Tha andar- oigaad foar aot. At a latar pariud, whoa tha ilritiah Govaro- ■Mwl had boooaio 6rnily aatabliahad ia all iha Briiiah ("oleoiaa, Iho Froaoh, who had fled to iho^ wooda of Nova Hcolia, or who oooghl rafogo oa iha anoccapiad and ramoto portiona of iia a^a- aaaata, wara aaflarad to parchaaa landa. or acqaira titta by paaeofai occapatioa. Mat ihara ia ao laataaea, in tha hitlory of :bot proviaea, whoro laada oaoo eoafiacatad and grantad to Brilioh aattlora wara avor again raatorod. With ovary doaira, Ihoroforo, to taha a goaorooa viaw of tho claimo aad auflariaga of parooaa whoaa oaly crima waa adharaaca to tha waakar aida, ia a graat aational atraggia, yat ibo Conniaaioaara do not aao bow thoy can, aftar tha iapao of a eoatary, roacaa thaio from Iha ordiaory poaaltiaa which ara iacidaat ta a atata of war. INI>IAN CLAIMS. Tba ladiaa elaina ara lioiitad to Loaaoi lalaad, aad to grtao laada aroaad it, aad aa it appeara by avidaaca that tha ladiana bava baaa ia aaiatarrapted occapaacy of tbia properly for oioro Ibaa half a eoatary. aad hava bailc a ckopol aad aavaral hoaaoa ra tho aomo, tha andaraignrd aro af opioioa that thair tiila lid bo coafirmad, and that ihia vary amall portioa of tho wido torritory thoir forafaibara farmarly owaad, aboald bo lal\ ia tha ■adblarbad pooaaaaioa ol tbia laat roataaal af tba raca. * - - 45 46 RRTORT or TUB LAND COM M 188 ION EM. Jrai iai Udiani »r mor* hoaiM till* Ik* iir !■ r- .V~ 8Im«M tiM gta«ral piaciplM, pfo^M»4«4 n tUi r«f«ct, b« pi«4 i« I ha t^rit whkli ••miai«« iM Cowiwi nx w, ••4 W r«ll««rc4 by practical trgiala«k>s« th* €•!«•? will aurt far- wani villi raactrr^ aaargy. ^loig a ■«« ara iro«i IMI. TIm Brinali (•ovaiamtMii will M«a MbTy ataM^ for aav arf««« hi its paal policy. 11m l^gi«la«ara will •• langar ba 4ialff*cia4 «idi afllticta ta claaa iIm Caatia «m« ptopnatara, m !• lampar wiik iIm catraacjr of iba lalaaJ. Tba crj af MfMiaai right ** will caaaa la diigaiM iba waal af pfaciical •lairamaatbip. t la atafaw* iba lacal a4aiui- MUaiMNi M«« wiMi iM«« Msuti •■«■ MiMMiifwi ••tiit *Hmmt wiit ba rcconciliNl. and ftarvaa ib«ir e4iaiaio« iaiara«u by Maiaal ca« ap^faiiaa. Koatt* will ba Iav«lta4. btaahwatara baill, iha rivar ba4a will ba dfffdKvd, and ntw Ivfiilisara applied la a aail, aaw aaaaally drainvd of it« viiaiiijr. Rmigralion wiil caaaa, aad paM*ail<>a, aitmcird to I ha wild laada, will aatar apoa Ibatr caliivaiMHi anciiiharra«M^ by iha r«aMa which parplaiad tba aarly Mi.lvr*. W»igh«rd down by iha bardaa d ihw hivaaliga< lioa, Iha andrr« gnrd biva votualimca fall doabifal aC aay b«a*fici«l mall*. Hat ihay now, at ihaclitaaoftbair labaar*, tedalga ib« hop* iImi if ibcir «og|e«iiaaa ara adopted, aafraacb- feed and di«vBihritlrd front iba pei,«oaad gariiiaaia that aafold ba«, |*rinra |:dw«rd l«iaad wiil y«l baooaia, what alM Mfbl la ha. Iha IUrhada«« of ih« Ht. Ijiwreaca. All wbirb ia ban«lly •abniiiiad it* Yoar Majaaty. (liigaad) JOHN tIAMILTOM GRAY. J08i:i*ll HOWE, Baibaaj, ISib laly, I8f I. J. W. ftlTtlllE. ar. » I « I • k