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 From the report of the debates which took place in 
 the House of Commons on the 6th and 7th of March, 
 1838, as recorded in the Mirror of Parliament, it 
 appears that very severe reflections were made upon 
 the colonial administration of the affaii's of Canada 
 for some years prior to the formation of the Select 
 Committee of 1828 ; while; on the other hand, no 
 explanation or defence were offered from ally quarter 
 upon any of the points fmpugned in that discussion, 
 nor was an^ allusion made to certain substantive 
 measures of improvement which were brough;!; for- 
 ward during the eolonial adihinistration of Lord 
 Batfaurst. Having held the situation of Under- 
 Secretary of State for the Colonial Department for 
 six years prior to the year 1828, I feel myself called 
 upon to vindicate the acts complained of, and to 
 point out those measures of improvement, founded 
 upon the soundest views of policy, which were 
 brought forward under the administration of Lord 
 BathufSit. 
 
 I was examined by the Canada Committee in 
 1828, being myself a member of that Committee. 
 
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 My ,^xaminatix)nwiIJ,Jj!^u found w Appendix B* 
 
 Cofp^g ^0h^ ^<^yern9i;,pf.,C!ftn«i^ .^itljput iJie c?pn- 
 senli qJ tJi!^,jl9C^ J^gjsl^v^iie ; .afl4,. 341y» 1(1^! ?HisB?i^sal, 
 of c^irtaii)i m^l jtji% o^er^r , Jby> Lord Dallioii^ief , uppi^ a 
 certain occ^^o^,",, Up,9W , |t^ ^n^'e^t., pjf .,.4h^ \ %t 
 compl^ii?!;, pne ,Q^^ry^,^d ,p^e ,91%, 5^«?j pu| j^h ?»?i 5 
 Y^ Qvf(8ry>2pj A^ t^.ppJRt.^Js^afgi^^i i^ ,1^ 
 fallowing pages, . I shall not ente^. upp^: iti,^ii;^] .,^f^i^ 
 pjl^p^. "Vyith respect to the d^si^ispal pf )^)|^j,f|i^^^ 
 Ql^p^r^ \!irhic]^ was characterise^ intt^^f) di?l)8,1i^,|a^ 
 ag.i/*j\^^<?qqstitutional act," loiie QMei?y,pi?Jly .^pfl ,pn| 
 ^jQiip,7^vide Query 63i App€mdi;^;B^,^^|:nj?nyj;^psw^yt 
 J^p,plai^^4 tl^e, gro^wds ijipPnHwJfiph, JU>p<l jBiatJ^yr^t 
 d^ed til? sanption the act.,,^]tje yra9,4nferjpp4^% 
 ^iprd,;jP^ousie, •* That his Mifijesfty'^ ..^^pey 
 Q^aJ in th^, Province of Xi9»y«jif.,Ca^a| h^ 
 J (g,Xj^j»i^a; opinion, that the; old ,prdinJ^lcel| of,,jl,787. 
 *lM 1?M !^ wyed, and certaip mlMliftj ojfi^f;? 
 "fhft^°S) i?wa?j?ached Lord D4housie'st, (^^e^^fee^^ 
 *y}rtgff*P«l^i.Mpoi» ;t^e occasion, foupdjedwiMiJ* ??^M»s 
 *{^pppji>j^}\^,ppiA^pn of the Attorney Qf»ner9il, ^qtjQff^yj 
 
 
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 ♦^tefofied to attehd the 'summei^ hiust^hii 'biit dth'ef^ 
 " wise exhibited a spirit of disobfediieftde to oVd^i^f 
 *• in conseqtiehce of whfcK lJ6rd Dalhoui^itJ d&mrss^i 
 •♦ thos^ pereohk the'cirfetinisttinces bf'Who^tf conduct 
 *"^iid diUatidi' toadle" ilic!i?"ttttl 6itttift^Ie^"i(in''Lord 
 * DklhOu6ie*s oi>iniOn) ' ''liece^M^ff' • ' 'li)M'^Bdthur^ii 
 hady on these"gkyiiiM^i itatiO«iotied' thig diteta»issi^ of 
 those officers. I cannot considei*''tWe^i«;1ffwHh!^ 
 governor, as (iOrifiniiM Wf \hb S^tei^^ry W Sta^^,^ as 
 h^ing an •* UtibOhstltdtioial fafttT'^BtM i-rfWiiy m^^e 
 to attribut*^ the 'late dfeturbtfh^ii Crthadi' id thife 
 act of disttilssiohi i»;4n{ my jw^giii^titi' to^^ a 
 
 Mghly^'ii'Ap^d'to ^i^iMiOed vie# ' Of the cai^; 
 divertSA^"*j)\rtiHb iktefntibh ■ ' front th0^e*«iaiii cawses 
 wliicH^hk^^lfed^ thfellaW'crifeis in CatiUdd, iiid 
 Wli?ch''it'f riitistt' bfe''«he olbject of GoVenkmcttt' arid 
 PtfrtWtnfetit tO^^i^rii' fbt the fUturei But ^vte^ 
 sWp^6siii^, foi"^th6 sake ^fai^umeiit; that bikmedbii^' 
 atticfritt iiktaiii tidt6 Of Lord BathuM'fe' ^ditfinistrP 
 
 mHi^M ^ 4^^ hi^eit'ldiscrtetion and ijbiiijy,^i^ 
 sUbsfei[JttlEfrii"fevfenfts ttive dhoWii theiii td bb ?''!?# 
 the >\iifose i)f 'Mljfi a i-efertiice it is rieii^sisa^^ilj 
 dttll pdbH6 attelilioh id a document wMcfr'SjijiSrs' 
 toT' ikv^ h^ii ' ttele^ ^ adv^rtfed to itt pytliat^t 
 diiirt*(^ thei'iate didcussions upon the tJaiiAdasi Mk\' 
 tJiiB Bill WOught itt by in^ ihto the Hdu^e df 'Gdiii- 
 moiis Itf the y^^ i822, "to makti ihbrfe^^flfecttiial 
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 liQ^ftr and Uto^ Canada^ and to regulate the ti'i 
 tMteofy wmKBill was subsequeitfly dWMed i 
 the union part oi it withdrawn. ' 
 
 iheHstoryof this Bill was<'lfi;i8^gi^&1n''thfe^ 
 iSial 'l^egister of the year 1822:-- ^^t' "'' ""^ '^^ 
 
 ,** A Bui was introduced by the ministers on the 
 20th of Juiie"^ regulate tfte trade and eoV^rnih^nli 
 of Cana^^. li consisted of three parts : one appHed 
 to Canada thiose principles of ^ree trade which, by an 
 Act already mentioned, were this year extended to 
 our West Indian colonies ; a second cl^s of pro-^ 
 visions relat(^ to t^e disiripution and a]])i)ropriatibW 
 of certain duties jbeWeen the "two jprbvlnces of IjoWei* 
 and Upper Cana4a ; ' the tliird, and ^ mosi iiiip^ahiif 
 part of the pill, new-modet^ed the constitutioi^ ot tM 
 panadas, AS fixed by the Act ptf l^^l, and was^iii- 
 tenaed to bring the two provinces into a icloser union 
 by incorporatinfi: their Lescislatur^s, to proiiiote the 
 general prosperity by the abolition of the feudal 
 tenures, and to diffuse the ^^nfftish language aiid iHe 
 i^int of the JBnghsB constitution more uniformly 
 amonff all the classes of the population. This pafl 
 of the ineasure was keenly opposed by oir Jamei^ 
 Mackintosh and other members ofoppositidn. 'Jtiiey 
 
 oppqsi^i 
 
 foui]/de4 their, objections not on the intrinsic iniei'its or 
 demerits of* the new arrang^nent, but on ttie period 
 when it was brought forward, contending that time 
 ought to be allowed to the people of the Canadas to 
 
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 express their feelings and wishes upon* the subject. 
 All the jnerchants of liondon conne^d with th^ 
 Canadas petitioned in favour of the Bill; and some 
 of those who usually resisted the Government (M^- 
 EUice, for example, and Sir Francus Burdttt) tl^ou^ht 
 that its provisions were marked by a spfritdf liberality 
 highly honourable to those who had brpMght it for- 
 ward, and th^ it ought to receive the saneiipn of Jbh*^ 
 legislature with the least possible delay. Still Sir 
 James iVfackintosh, and those who adopted his \]^o- 
 tions, persisted in their metaphysicar objections : so 
 that the ministers found that a measur^^which had 
 been brought forward with the purest and most 
 patriot!^ views could not be passed in the face of a 
 most strenuous opposition, except under circumstances 
 which might disturb or alienate the feelings of the 
 Canadians. They were thus reduced to the necessity 
 of separating tbe Bill into two parts. ITiat which 
 contained the enactments concerning trade and tlie 
 apportionTne^t of duties was passed : the other, wKicih 
 nq^vi-modeileid the constitution, was postponed, ' ' *^^ 
 . " Sir Francis Burdett expressed very eam.estiv fes 
 regret,, that the theoretical nicety of a few of his 
 friends, should have succeeded in pireveriting or; ae- 
 la>ying the enjoyment of the greajt practic;al b^eflts^ 
 ^hi^ could have resulted from a Union pf'^^pper 
 and Lower Cana^ ^^4^' on*^ provincial legislipicttrei. 
 
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 statemeat m generally right, ^\\k one most 
 important exception, viz., the distinct statemenf i(^ 
 
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 t]^ei[-fyct, ihat,'^ir Jamfis Machintoeh opposed the 
 nufamff^ , o/{ l^niona \aft0r he had* igifiin\ ^huA tnott un« 
 qualified assent to its beimgintnoduoed^ ^coupled with' 
 t^ ^^§m<mc$ that M ^ouldtn»ti9ppQkk t^uiii U »il L' 
 mJ^ fi^j^ ^ Jitter wltfcl^ll addr^ttjeed *o Sir Gharlesl 
 Af^fsli^ftl^ial;^ eblef ju&ticQ of (CIS^Vmi^! luidiwh^ ' 
 driiWf \^/thQ,U«ni>JYBUl (being at that tin^ Sdliohoivl 
 Q#ner»J GsC |^lr<»riCdftftda)^ Ihe^fQllflwiiigr p««agft i-^^ 
 
 , . ** J!aoni(Mu. Square^ July 21,1 822. 
 
 J **^I assure \(^u tfiat |^o jsprt of apology is necessary 
 " JTor your' remarKs. You niiist, however, be aware 
 " that, if the fourteen geritlemeu persevere in their . 
 ** determined opposition to our Bill at this late period^ 
 " 01 the session, it. will be rather phymcaUu than. 
 " morally impossible to carry it. ,. , , , 
 
 '* The whole transaction is one which has hurt 
 " me extremely. You well know that the Govern- 
 
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 " ment would never have contemplated the Union 
 "diiriri^ the oir<?»^f session h tiiey not mslinctly 
 
 " understood that 
 
 it there would not pe any serious op- 
 rliament to the measure. The wnole . 
 
 " pb^itioh iti Parliament to tne measure. 
 
 " transaction was Djased upon that distinct anq un*; 
 
 " MuUocal assurance. , , , . , ^, 
 
 -I1 n^^/' assured by ah liidividtml'«€'(thei*.hi^iil^t 
 resj^eotability, a member of 'what was ' dit^'«6p,IiecJ'^ 
 tbBiC^pbsitipD, thaA the measure waa^coiisidi^euf^^j't 
 valuable that; no opposition would be ofifered by ''ti?.e ''> 
 partyTllgen^taUy/v^r by any influeoiliial membxir .eifV 
 thaiti;!paity'(U laudinu *iol ,jn>iJinn(iOv) mi \6 bobaynui 
 
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 V 1 beoame respontible to Lord Beithurst foi' iriich^tl^ 
 result; and Loird^\BiithUrat became hhii8elfreBp6nBiblid^^ 
 tothe Gwyernwentibrtheainne. "^ *> .^^vf.\) \y^\\\u^^ 
 The Union fii^ \Wk« withdra\^n. » Ht»^'ls6tfW 1^^ 
 havfaj beibn HDthetwise ? My ktter %ks dbtedf' tAie 
 2lAt otfuJuly; vahd the Cfttia8tro|}he «f ^hel ^laiie it>^ 
 Londoodefiy tbdk plftCQ on the ' 12vh of!' A*«^trft« )^> 
 but for the unibrtuniite «tate of ih6 lenAtk ^ tlil&> 
 House of Commons, the Union Bill would have been 
 fought to the last, iiotwithstandipg the unexpe^t^d 
 opposition raised against it; but, undet' the actual 
 circumstances of the casje^ no such t^ttenipt could 
 have been made. Thp, favourable moment was lost. , 
 A cplonjlal measure of first-rate importance, intro- 
 duced by a Government and sanctioned by an Oppo- , 
 isitioi^y could, nqt fail to carry with it a moral efiect 
 which nacmtefted meamre of the Government could 
 
 nnrnl} ^sdi h'>teI<|fno,tiioa aiml leyoa hlun-N inom " 
 To any member of the Opposition of jthat date,. 
 
 who may inquire why this measure of the Upipn,, 
 
 was not reproduced in enduing Parliaments, I wpuld,,, 
 
 ill return, ask ihe question, wby did no suggestion,. 
 
 c?trcc% proceed from some member of the Opposi-,, 
 
 tion tliat such re-introduction should take place i 
 
 Hayiiligexpiless^ myself thus generally withr rk- 
 
 specit to thi^; measure of (he Union, I would irefjmi 
 
 iihose readers who may be interested respeotin^ihfflii 
 
 details of that measure as proposed in I832t(ulbY 
 
 A:|>pendix A, wMoh is a literal copy of ^.tbe^ilT,\{jtiS(| 
 
 amended by the Committee, for uniting the^iLegitiHi:^ 
 
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 l»tuit<)8 of the Piw7inoc8< of Lower and ^pp^r C^nadA^. 
 If.refeiraniqie be made to tbe Queries rand Aof^wers 
 inj Appendix B, from Query 5 ta,|l3 in^^wsi^Q) my 
 e^lanfttioii. of that Bill wiU be found ix^>(;]|Le^ minutest 
 d^|t»ilt. Mvn^V be observed in my anevrer toQue^y 1 1^. 
 t)p|i;j4r!^d lu^. deay that > improvements- migb^ be 
 npderiiiwtb^ >BiU as proposed in^ ld2^i espeeially 
 suiter the laps& of 4^' years, and the experienee 
 ^^*ew^g. out ^of that perio4^> Iri stated to the Cdrn-' 
 mittee^ that in> reliktSoato the interests of the two 
 Provinces, I did not myself see any alternative be*- 
 tweett the proposition of transferring to the Pr^vinGe 
 of Upper Canada, a port ,^hich shoiddei^alj^le h^ to 
 maintains her cosiununicatiou. witlvthe, «ea, ai^d there- 
 by effect her, independence of thahqwtv Jpj^^vi^ce 
 with respect to revenue arising £i;om duties oii. goods 
 imported sea-wards,, ojvioi^l^ ot}>erhan(ip, of ^ry- 
 ing into e&ct the provisions of a liegislativ^ Uijlion. 
 I was then asked« in Query 12, " Could a port be 
 " given to Upper Canada by any other means than by 
 */LftBnftxins Montreal to th^tProyiQce?" ,!]j!qw^isiffi I 
 jtDswefed, " I am not aware of any «ther geograv«< 
 IJ-^pjb^ical laciiity of accomptishing that objecC*'**"'j 
 
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 >. * In teftirenifc to my answer to tVjs questum, I wouM refer my. 
 nMid»t& to ft most valuable documpnt, v.i^ laBeport Iron the Selecl 
 P0MU3(»ittee of the Legislative Council of Upper Canada, signed tljif^ 
 IStibday of February, 1838; in page 71 of which the |leport is as 
 ftdJows trrr" Anc^er mAasura haa been proposed, o^m^ ly» the extend- 
 iog tkei ilimito qf this Province, so as to inclvde the, Roland of Mofitx^ 
 atod«i^rlAinil<|rtsof,lho adjacent territory. IHbtsre caqbe nodQuht 
 that this would be of incalculable advantage to Upper Gariad|»^ by 
 
"to the latter armttgemfliitr, on ^e part 6£ the lioi^inei'- 
 '^ OanadiaiM, woidd not be almost tk sbon^; itisi t^ aft^ 
 '^ incearpQratili^ iliiida of ths two Pl-ovittcietl^' ' lfy« 
 amht^tftAs, "'I eBteitain no itmbt tfiai't^iy sti«ofi^> 
 *^M6bjection9 wotild be madii by tbe Low^r iD&iia^diiiy^ 
 '^ a^iiist such a' pjfopocivl ; btiit/JI rejjel^, tbaA^uyd)^^ 
 '^ thid reIat)v^eireunitetan«9e«of the two PrbVi^<^»/lMi^ 
 " the bdiindeii iduty of the mother eo^ii% b^aotjai^lAji^ 
 "between them, I do not pereeive any other ths^^ 
 '* these alternatives. I cannot, howeVer, avoid re- 
 '^^•'ittarking, that should Consideratioti* of mtitiia! die^^ 
 "fence, and a sense of common interest, create a' 
 " growin^opittioh in favbur of a LegislativfrUnion iri' 
 " the two Pi-bVinc^, there does not appear to me to^ 
 ** be any conclusive mode of adjustitig their intereErts, 
 "tHtH i-^sp^ct to thfe a]^propriatiott of their cohimon^ 
 " reVetiute, dtbef than by an identification of interests,^ 
 
 (' I ' . 
 
 tTT 
 
 ' lif [ , n i — 
 
 gfivth^^^ft'port acc^;«stf)tb from^e oc^an, and thua ehaUiH^Ver 
 to> i!tu|t« a rerebtie .eommbnsivate with her wanti. It ^rould t»^^ 
 firom XTD'-ii^r the gQT6rnment gf howet Canada that portion pf the 
 population wlii^h hiaii taken the lead ih the late rehellions mbvyihtiaiQt, 
 and would place tttam under the influence of '^ther laws and feelings, 
 riuch to their own advantage, and to the benefit of both these 
 Coloiiiba. Th6 c6uiM^ "Miiich Wotild \htii tbrta the Phtvinie'of 
 Lower Crnttdk %6utd neither he so likely to place itsdf in an 'attttlnde 
 hdstile to^the Mdthe^ country, nor would its hostility he s« fbntti^taiMei:^ 
 ahd, utld^r this arrangement, Qttebe<; nki^ continuei aft tt« 'hf 
 iklH^i the r^«i*BWce of the Governor GeneMil. TUdre are t ♦ 
 advtititageii in favour ef this plan, which, in theK>f>iiNiidtt ef yotirC<uui4 
 tnittee, ibonld reconitttend it strongly to the M^d6-QlfMwM»^ieabff» 
 Governtnent.""''!^' '' ' ^ -'/.-.^.vIk'm/ to :-) bu-jw mlj hi! 
 
12 
 
 **iktieiS[if i iCiAoii^^^w^ to tli^' 
 
 " FrencH'|bJj4lkrioathBr la#s attd mst*^ 
 *«8ti%iMH§s, trf^iie ieictieiitof prev^ritirig the coilibmed 
 **'ii«gMtftui^fi^iri toting a^ii)^ tbdife MW^^titf instii^' 
 '♦^tiitioA^^yKhdictW'sa^ tliiife shbUltt t-mrv^ s^ikdt^ 
 **Widtigft in thi^ liiig^ttled part of the PMvititei so as 
 **lio'^Ub\^ttie¥if^h'^6imIatton' to spread itsdfwit^ 
 
 ' - ' - >■ 1 r-. 
 
 • In refe 
 
 '!. 
 
 e attention 
 
 nee to this answer of mine, I would call thi 
 otmfiftfaAkrdtOAfAssags in thefl^tidrt just t|iiotM iil my ^rtnoite, 
 page 2j5><^"X^i9 uaijial, to, 9Qndei]|i^,;^,»ti:o^ tf|l^^lA the w^^l^jof 
 foresight of thd British. Government, in not .haying taken the most 
 obvidiis^sie&ftttre^ ibr maiking l^e t^^ntie of Qd^^;^ ii|l^i>fl^>^- 
 quest, at once and decidedly a British Colony. What is meant by 
 this is, that the English law, civil' and criminal,' sfaonid have beeir 
 immediately established, and constantly maintained there ; that all 
 ptodeedings in the LeglsIatuM, and {ftCotttts of JttittOe/tdiMdd haw 
 bMtt conducted in th« English Ismgiuagb alone ; and that ; any 'pecu^> 
 liirttt^iiri'the orvil polity of the bonqueted p«opte slioiild hivebetoni' 
 wliolly abolished. It i» reasonable to suppose that such «:cow8ei! 
 wottldv in progress of time, have made the Canadians more truly a > 
 Bt#sh people; and^ though it would have ddnevioleii^ to national > 
 fMUi^B and prejudices, whiefa deserve to be t^^atedwitiv^peitt, lyet'. 
 it<ci(Mild'not have been accounted unjust on ttie pi^ at itidix iooum < 
 qia^'roi^'; and few persons^ pA>bably, would hesitate to'aekaowledgie 
 thftt theit situation would have been greatly udpMredv by pnt^g 
 thidfil lieifsdtly Ml a ifioting with the otlMr subjects of the British 
 etoj[Htt'."l i'^^'-'H '*^'i ,^^'.h!:f iov'-"^ ^'-'^^ ^J iiJliiijiji h'jiimnm. iibrntaj 
 ""'Still' iC fit IJM^ Mif^Hdtig' tistit Ihb t^Mdlftttt ' WM^<1nd<d^6iMy 
 alto^i^dd to retain their peculiar Uwii, and the me of fheir iang aage 
 in^itfflolal Bct^ and in judicial proceedings. It arose» no doubt, from 
 thtP^ii-etitAitaneefl of th« time. At first, indeed, the Bnglinh lawj^' 
 bMfh'tiivil knd criininal, was introduced by Royal Pv«»clamatioti, an a- 
 nUMntl r<»ult«f tii»c6nquest; and things continued on this iboiittg 
 fr6tti'^7dS'itf'tf74,%hie/n it WU thought expedient to restore to thbiu; 
 by Act of Parliament,>tH«'efijoynKint0f fhdir jpe«Uli«ir -code'bf^la^'i 
 
fe to tliiB' 
 tfsiiithe 
 oitilbiiied 
 
 V6* space 
 
 If within 
 
 e attention 
 y Urttkofte, 
 be w^nlj^of 
 p the most 
 
 meant by 
 "have been 
 that all 
 AdttM Iiat« ' 
 ladyipecu* » 
 hivebdon'' 
 t«: ceturee' 
 ore truly a! 
 to national 
 Mpeiet, iyet , 
 JtMit'Oon^' 
 kaowte^ge 
 »y putting! 
 ;heBritiiii 
 
 idiil^ently 
 r langjagd - 
 oubt, fh)m 
 iglinh law,^ 
 &tiotii ana ■ 
 tin fisoting ■ 
 etothbtti; ' 
 fc'bf'la^'' 
 
 5f ^5993^ J proceed to %i^t^ the ^videijce qf ^ t»nx.iiif\tr 
 nesses befoi;e thp .Committee of ,J,§^^ |FJba,a|e» 
 exi^^88e4 |l?^.opiR^nL.]?espectwg tlw^ 
 
 f, J .have ,g^vea3t4b^.,4fip^r8f,of ,]^^ .SBpfit^B^n' 
 this subject in Appendix B.Mf^,]^Jli^'^^l^^^^ 
 
 went to this, point, that the .ulthn^q,.effefiVjBtl*** 
 Union, judiciously executed, ,wo]ald, \^^jf^ "j'5bft^,fftU> 
 " separate hahit^ apd ijitw^ei^tf , | jpgl|t^ ;|)e , j^ 
 " lost sight of, .^n^ th^, pre^tj .j^j^^siQ^^j^i; f^l^. 
 " ings and prejudices give way to a general de- 
 " sire to eonsult only the, common good and the 
 " prosperity of the countiy in the upited Legisla*^ 
 " ture." And ill another answer he says,, "I- am;! 
 " perfectly satisfied, a governor of conciliatory iisf , 
 
 1! <r\ lidXri 
 
 'iji'l i;,!: 
 
 ,^',!d Uinu'.ld Ay.!: 
 
 !.' j'ivi j,i fjyyh.^i' 
 
 \!:v: ' j HiJU i: 
 
 ili'jijjnilt ^jii.; jiilJ ,i-J .'.ij ii 
 
 ' in all soaiter^ relating to property And civil rights/ This retracing^ 
 of their stepa by the British Ministry probably arose fh>m observing, 
 that the Fretioh Canadians continued to be strongly attached t9 their , 
 formev «ysteim» andirom a oonvietioa that it would be impnndeqt t<^v 
 leaiw them any^stromg ground &r dissatisfaction, at the ci^iti^ iav)-f,> 
 ment when the other Colonics in America were evidently on tMr 
 point of revolting from the mother country. What might; bi^i».bi9enil 
 the obndwiot nf sik^ Gaoadians. under other treatmwt w«. 4an lOiplyj! 
 coiyeeture^ but it is certain that the efforts^ which were a|terwaf<]y)|, 
 madebyth<l Wvolted, Colonies to allure them into their eonf«4«ra9y,( t 
 were utistt<«eBsfHj,!.andi ih»tt in general, th^ pop^dation .^tfi^w^Ri 
 Canada remained faithfUl to the Royal cause. The policy piu^pt^^ 
 by the Government was natural under the circumstances, ^pdjp^ms 
 to afford no juat cause of complaint, though its oonseqnmcQs, iU,)il^,; 
 day are, no doubt» to .1)9 regretted, as well on account of )(hfiC(l!lfi-rii 
 dians themselves, ^s of their fpllow subjects of British vhirtfr;,/Qri{t 
 unque^tionftblyt their isyst^m of land tenures, and iJliMir!ciy|l;C^^|i|^tj 
 genor«l> is much Ic^ss oaloulatod to advance the.£rQsperitgr,q|'.,|j|^^,, 
 country th»n tl>e laws of England, which, tb^,jRrpJH4»W^^i^yAl 
 hitb^rto prevented the l^egiskture from adopting*" r>ini;ih'i'l to hh id 
 
14 
 
 «« 
 
 it 
 
 ■f: position, popipiar <oharacter, iftnd g(^, mtmd mnse, 
 m Mtiog 4tpdn iinstractdotts .^iinn tbi« op^^t|^« iowaded 
 ^jyonlih/^, ^pimi^ t«l<fl^(4ifc4tjr in 
 
 fff^iahiBmrng ajoA^comcllkg^iJ^^h!^^ in 
 
 the Legislature, and procuring from t^em •ample 
 means of impnmng the institutions and promoting 
 !f ^ ih&^«Kdiera^ imtevests of both proviqces^f , 
 
 Mr. EUice, }mmvtr^(^e Im op|iaMsi> that if it 
 ,WttB fqssibl^ more toi-^fttiafy the Pfoviaces of Lower 
 r<add lJpp«r!C«nfi4£i % aU^ other aiiirangenaent than 
 ^m irhole measure of ia ^IJ^n^ he shoiUd he satisfied 
 litofiotriBdejagi^eal^J^l fQr!tihato^eet.^f ,>j 
 Si CThe opinion of Mr. Jamefi^r^tepinfii*, lu^ Under 
 Secretary of State, as given before the Canada 
 G)mmittee, on the subject of a Legislative Union, 
 f^b'.a8 follows-:~«-'^-:Y j^cf-vf- I'l ?v..a^-i>^.?)ij; "W ' 
 vrj v?^ Wiijen tMiitldnif, «fi-i hi^re ojipten ^h^pgl^c^ the 
 n!?va|ip»r0iit fraglUty 9I qyr tenure o| |te j^fi^as, 
 9fffOfie, fwnd anly^noi (rai^e-of ^i-^ngUi^nJWgiit^J^M 
 i^jli^^occmTed to me. I woqld briRg jkp F^i^^hf ,and 
 vjif.Bng^sl representatiyes with m f^Uf^\il^,W'm^^ 
 .t/M approach to equality of numbers, inlio' fthe same 
 '* Xiegislature. I would appoint over the% ago- 
 jj^'vernor possessing temper and wisdom vooo^gh to 
 hf6 aaoderate i)etween the two pajfjti^. By ;aia^ptaap- 
 '* iug a e^were fegard to justice, >and to tljie^itstitU' 
 ^f^t|jiw93. rights of the King'e suyectsjofjevc^ class, 
 ;tf\m Hiight aoquire A large and l^itifl|ateM¥«9ce. 
 of ^i[)rh}B>f I know, is a task mt to be ^ixnqiui^ti^ ; to 
 " vulgar hands. But I am much mistaken if a great 
 
? 
 
 ^3 
 
 .foHiided 
 ksaHtff in 
 iartie9 in 
 m <»mple 
 romoting 
 
 ;hal; if it 
 [>f Lower 
 ^Qt than 
 \ ss^tis^d 
 
 jCimada 
 e Union, 
 
 ^|it,)bas 
 ii^pfar and 
 
 tli« ^ame 
 Oft a go- 
 Dfdfigh to 
 
 ^nstitu- 
 eury class, 
 in^i^ce. 
 i^t^to 
 if a great 
 
 ** and p<i»iialieBt aeeeseion of poirev' >t« tkis bountry 
 <^ #otild ^Bok ^ dentied Srcm the mild; fiirm» jutd Just 
 " joianagetn^nt "Of tlUe two gr0&t parties,' >' i Equally 
 '' iii^tied ^ counterpoiBed in tlw > 99ttift'^«w8l$m- 
 
 *<*iMy.*^^2'3'i^ nio-ii "^cniiav>i-.j baa ,^>'iif:.V]iei:g3>J ^di '■ 
 
 So muck fbr opIaibxkB •ea^pnegMd ^ m ;1S|^^ iHth 
 respect ftotlie^iiteasune^f the UliliMil ^^oiiiS .iM 
 ^'^'^^I «6lv i^receed to ttpinionfl idjt|ffes8(Ml ii| tB37« 
 fifteen yeais since the ftllttre tif tb^ Untai) Bill in 
 i83i, proposed undeir^ hotd Bathiiimt'^t iAilmuiistiia- 
 tion. In the IJlq^Ckiia^ HWald^^^^ 
 D^cenl!^, l6^^^i#iM l!>^^liB^ iiiei«t4laitriiig pas- 
 
 jioinU yvitelai^sJ r. 1o toDtdua oili no ,j)oJjiaim(K) 
 
 ** We mentbned in vour last number >thall^dbould 
 ''i^oJiUi^^f' f'^matics on ibe ur^hn i^the Png^nae^, 
 > lend iiiih^'inte toshowtiiiatlbeidif«ren4iee betjMreen 
 '^tW^i^roiriiices «oald he ieasily set at rest % the 
 ^*^(%U^lty hf^te impRM Farliament. Reoeot events 
 -liii^^^biotil^lJBtely altered the state lof aidhi in the 
 ' JjofWiBt^vii^ noionger ar^u&ppt^t 
 
 « > j 1 iM ^^ wiQHld Bot disfraBbhise a man heca we he k a 
 ' i^efishnek* ^radieal ; ball <wfaen lie heetfNnas oil adtttal 
 "^^¥eieli h[e4m 4jieid)y diifrAnchiaod himseE ^ ^j^ i 
 .'riiiffOne Mf ^f IdOivier Canada has hees aciii«^ ^ 
 - J|i^ iii rehelJibi, or in mekbg prepocaltioaB M ft ; 
 *'%iyt 1^^&adttf«n« have themeby become obofatloys to 
 *ivn^ fill mAx-JUii i1:js/(S5 au. % i^u r.Uuiij ujj^li/v " 
 
 !: 
 
 y 
 
' 1 1 
 ) ■ 
 
 III 
 
 I' i 
 
 if i 
 
 16 
 
 the highest punishment of the law, instead of being 
 
 entitled to sit as legislators, either; personally or 
 
 n*A B^ 'tU^iF'i^e^l^eisentatives. In Wjhatever waji'the Im- 
 
 W(i* ^^^(fliPartiam^nt may deal with th^ revolted districts, 
 
 >Tii»»^<* there can be no doubt that the elective firanchise 
 
 will either be withheld from them entirely, or be 
 
 conceded under such regulations and restrictions, 
 
 '^"^ that the political power of the French Ganadiatis, as 
 
 {^5^^^ '^ i pjarty, is overthrown for many years, and Itefore 
 
 those years shall have passed away, emigration will 
 
 j3 tr have raised the British part of the population to an 
 
 f>i equality, at least, with the Canadians in numbers. 
 
 4V>1 ** Wemay safely assume, that the power of the 
 
 . {^(v French Canadians, as a political party, is entirely 
 
 ^%^ broken, and, therefore, the Provinces may he united, 
 
 t f with perfect safety to this Province t and with great 
 
 ibiv advantage to both. A unity of legislation and ac^t^on, 
 
 aiv which can hardly be obtained but by one legislature, 
 
 ^h is essential to the proper adjustment of several impor- 
 
 ^itant questions between the Provinces, as the disppsi* 
 
 i^iltion of the revenue^the improvement of the St.Law- 
 
 \ trence navigation, identity of commercial regulations, 
 
 ^■^ and a combined action for all purposes of genial im- 
 
 |v provement, in which the prosperity of one province 
 
 ^ so much promotes that of the other. And in order 
 
 \ to make Lower Canada a British Province, the union 
 
 -jul^ll be, if not necessary, at least highly important. 
 
 ^^ - «* N.B. The Montreal Gazette of the 14th Decem- 
 
 ^^fojBr obser as, that these are the views of * every per- 
 
 hntt ^^"^ -"^^ '^' ''^'■" 
 
 8 
 
 "^ ^mliiit iH^iiS teJif^l^HlliW^m 
 
ji:i 
 
 r being 
 klly or 
 be Im- 
 tttricts, 
 mcliise 
 or be 
 ictions, 
 atts, as 
 tiefore 
 on will 
 n to an 
 bers. 
 of the 
 entirely 
 united, 
 h great 
 a<#on, 
 slature, 
 
 impor- 
 
 disposi<* 
 
 tLaw- 
 
 ilations, 
 
 eral im- 
 
 rovince 
 
 n order 
 
 e union 
 
 rtant. 
 
 Decem- 
 
 eryperr 
 
 
 1 
 
 UlJiM io ^♦^**" 
 
 ,,^m^, Aht >u^m\mi^f^^^^^ 
 
 it h'AUiiifi 
 
 m vilgonofpoli^dal experience mdi^i^^\fjf:^i;i^liH^ Pro- 
 mi fUnm/ ;* '^nd ttik • upon tHe t^m<^, ,i^,^^i^|p^n, the 
 .#jt) gtfrew^ty of Gi-ea^ Briton ove^ ^j^bo, (jj^lonies 
 
 ^m bjIs^'' of BeeeiAbfci, lB37'r bccuw ' 1^^^^ 
 
 ■>'.^ 
 
 .;<0 
 
 rfihi BOkly* depeiids.'* 
 
 the 
 — , «-wwing 
 
 !«'M <^* *«'jitt:aiiftiture legislation £6rtibiaFrovkiee»'tb^ first 
 
 '^^ '^^tie^tibiifi that ought tp present thcinselvd* to an in- 
 
 t^^i^ttt menaber pf parliainenti ought to bfe the fol- 
 
 " liitiring:^ What are the. moral and inti^ecvual ^apa* 
 
 V'^^ea of ** the great majority of the people V Is there 
 
 ii% ^rdbn of the people better informed than another ? 
 
 litliai portion lik^y to become tuore niunerouA)>and 
 
 n(l predominant' one, in course of .<^ei ' smA- kss liable 
 
 TO i-ejelct the true principles of the mionarbhical scheme 
 
 dr Government of Great Britain? What ar^'^ the 
 
 aarnental causes of the ilate insurrettion ?^<f ^By 
 
 mi w^ . it instigated, promoted, and. abetted ? 
 
 portion and denomination of her Majesty's 
 
 Subjects ^ew, to arms in order to suppress it) without 
 
 previdusly considering the necessity of dii^e^iting'^an 
 
 addrecis to the throne, expressive of their loyally ? 
 
 What are the true causes of the failure of th;^ ^k^e- 
 
 riment of 1791, 'to assimilate ^e dani^ifiais,' as 
 
 Mr. Pitt said he intended to do, ' to the iin^t^e, 
 
 the tnanners, the habits, and, above all, the laws and 
 
 constitution of Great Britain Y '"^^ ''^^a-q -^^niiHrn tan 
 
 B 
 
 ::l 
 
 •.*iH;,i 
 
:; H 
 
 ■ e. 
 
 " With this short category of questions before^'' ' ^ 
 him, no intelligent and patriotic member of parlia<» t^^' ' 
 ment can be at a loss to apply himself to the impor- 
 tant task of legislating for the Province. - ^ 
 
 " But let the wreck of Mr. Pitt's Constitution d^^''^^ 
 *91, to a people who could neither enjoy nor appre- ]^*' 
 ciate such a boon, be the constant beacon of his con- 
 duct, tuw iiflij j^^}ii^\i^iiy.:^^ ..4i ..; ):-:.'^r' ■■■'"• "?-'»^""^4' ^'^•■ 
 ' " The time has come, wheq a new foundation must ^^ •" 
 be dug, and a. n^w superstructure raised. The law^ '•'- 
 that Are to be pasised^ in regard to Canada, must no ^^ -' 
 longer be of a temporary, expedient, cr negative eha-^ ^* -'^ 
 racter, but of a positive, decisive, and permanent ^-^^^i' 
 nature. In contending for so long a period for their ^^ ' 
 rights and privileges, as British subjects, it must; b^ ^^^'^'^ 
 admitted that the loyal part of the con^inunity, which^ -"^^'^ 
 is entirely composed of persons of English and^*^^'^^ 
 Ameiiean birth and descent, cannot always be acting 
 pn the defensive. They must be fissured that they ^^'^'^ 
 live in a Province of the British Empire, enjoying ^"*^' 
 British institutions and laws, and subject to no domi-'^^^i 
 nant legislation, except that of the Imperial Parl|a-'1^^ ' 
 ment, and their own free Representatives in Provin-'*'* 
 cial Assembly. They must be put on the same 
 footing) in this respect, with their fellow subjects ih^^ 
 Upper Canada; and we are fuHy and thoroughly ^^^^ 
 convinioed, that no measure, short of the Legishiiv¥^ 
 Union of both Provinces » will ever be able toefiect'***^ 
 the lasting peace and prosperity of eit^r Pfovio^^/' 
 
 n 
 
 ! I 
 
19 
 
 The following is an Extract from the Address of 
 the Constitutional Association of the city of Montreal, 
 to the inhabitants of the Sister Colonies : — ;;; -^ '^^^ '^ " 
 
 " In the year 1791, the division of the Frbviace 6f '^M. 
 Quebec into the two separate Provinces of howet'-iiiih 
 Canada and Upper Canada, was carried into effect. ''i«'rt " 
 
 frwh 
 
 " It was conceived that this measure, by which 
 ' one division should consist, as much as possible, of 
 those who were inclined to the English laws, and the 
 other, of those who were attached to the French 
 laws, vms best adapted to put an end to all disputes 
 of a legal sort, to reconcile the jarring interests and 
 opposite views of the provincial inhabitants, to pre- 
 vent a .gi;eat degree of animosity and confusion, from 
 their footed opposition of interests, and to obviate dis- 
 satisfi^ption from a great ascendancy of one party over 
 another in a united legislature.' h «• , n^* *??^Ti I* ♦MHnilii 
 
 " Th^ experience of fifty years of separation he^ 
 tween the Pifovinces, and the present insurrectionary 
 and 6editio^s spirit exhibited in Lower Canada, 
 plainly show how far the advantageous results, anti- 
 cipated from that impolitic and undesired mea§ur§^ 
 
 y-4 
 
 #|5 
 
 w 
 
 .t»f.« 
 
 have been T^ftlized.'' * 
 
 ■n 
 
 
 u 
 
 •i ^i ■*/.'.. 
 
 The last document to which I shall refer upon '^#^ 
 the, measure of the Union, is an extract from ^e '# 
 Report of the Legislative Council of Upper Canada^ t<^^t 
 from which I have already quoted in two notetWvH*>4 
 
IW! I 
 
 n 
 
 ;i'n ' 
 
 20 
 
 The ic^inion i^espectiiig the TJiiioii is expressed in 
 
 thJB Rejioft with vely great caution. The Report 
 
 says, in page 68, " The British inhabitants of Lower 
 
 '"'Canada are strongly impi-essed with an opinion, that 
 
 v^f after ail that has taken place, the removal of this 
 
 ** difficulty respecting the Civil List would not alone 
 
 <'*^ be snffident, and that the Province cannot prosper 
 
 '' uhless some hiatetial change is made in its Constitu- 
 
 ' •»♦ tion . The French Canadians ai^ not an enterprising 
 
 " people ; they care little about commerce^ and are 
 
 " not zealous promoters of public improvehient ; and 
 
 " besides this, it is said that their laws atid customs 
 
 " have an Unfavourable tendency, end that tjieir igno- 
 
 " mnc<e and national prejudices forbid all hope of 
 
 ^* amendment th!p<Mgh the agiency <(if thd LegisktUrew 
 
 "A Legislative Unioii of the ProvinceB is pro- 
 
 *^ posed, and very earnestly pi^essed M the mttst 6flfec- 
 
 i*'* tual remedy. It probaWy is desh^d by the British 
 
 *'"' populati<»n of Lower Canada, with very few excep- 
 
 •'f^tatofts, land theif desire i« natural>^-*they may gain 
 
 ~'^ ij^uehi and cati scarcely lose by the change. The 
 
 ♦'"♦'p^tople i&f Upper €lEinada> on the other hand. Would 
 
 '^'** be comihitting much to hassard by the trial ; they are 
 
 i"^ happily not in that state that should make them 
 
 " indifferent to any dangerous experiment. Hitherto 
 
 ' " af^ar of ill consequences to themselves has prevented 
 
 **' the inhabitants of Upper Canada Itom seconding the 
 
 * '^*<dtei8irefe that have been Expressed f6r a Legislative 
 
 t^** Union. The situation of Lower Canada is now 
 
 ^^^M^^ 
 
%\ 
 
 * such as calls for some important change ; for it is, 
 ' perhaps, not too much to say, that the laws no longer 
 ' afford to the British population there sufficient se- 
 ' curity for their lives and properties. Although a 
 ' strong military force must probably, under any 
 ' circumstances, be maintained in Lower Canada for 
 ' some time to come, yet that is not the resource that 
 ' should be principally looked to for the future tran- 
 
 * quillity of the Province ; and if it were certain that 
 ' peace and safety can be no otherwise assured to our 
 ' fellow subjects there than by the desired Legislative 
 ' Union, then your Committee would not hesitate to 
 ' say, that the people of Upper Canada should consent 
 ' to that measure, as they should, indeed, to any other 
 ' that, upon a deliberate consideration of the case, 
 ' may appear to Parliament to be the most expedient." 
 
 Again, in page 71 : — ^" So far as we may be 
 ' permitted to determine the question, upon a view of 
 ' the interests of Upper Canada merely, our inclination 
 ' is against the change ; but if without an Union the 
 ' British population in Lower Canada cannot be se- 
 ' cured in the enjoyment of British institutions, then, 
 ' of course, it must follow, that the only question for 
 
 * consideration would be the terms of the measure and 
 ' the fittest time for proposing it." This alternative 
 
 proposition expressed in the Report is hardly in 
 keeping with the sentence which immediately suc- 
 ceeds it. " Your Committee forbear to enter upon 
 " a particular discussion of these points, because they 
 
 c 2 
 
22 
 
 ' ( 
 
 I 
 
 -M'. 
 
 ♦••(CrtttriOt convince themselves that an union witfi 
 •* Lower Canada alone would be safe or desirable lor 
 •* the inhabitants of this Province. If a mature con- 
 ** sideralion of the present and probable future state 
 '^ df Lower Canada should seem to compel the Im- 
 " perial Parliament to favour that project, there can 
 '*'bfe no doubt that ample opportunity will be aiSbrded 
 " to the people of both Provinces for offering any 
 '* su^jjeations."'''''^''''''* '^'^"* *^'^ ' ' sunJiurao ;j|iriyt 
 Lastly, upon this subject I would call tli'* par- 
 ticular attention of my readers to two letters signed 
 "M.," published in the Morning Chronicle on the 
 2d of January and on the 23d of June, 1838. Those 
 letters are, within my own knowle<lgte, written by 
 a person whose local experience, as well as general 
 capacity, entitle his oi^in\on» io the utinost respect 
 Those persons who are really and deeply interested in 
 the question of Canadian policy, will do well to give 
 those letters the most attentiv^e perusal ; for tny own 
 part, it is not my object to offer an opimori as to the 
 future, I am only seeking to justify the "past, and, 
 in vindication of Lord Bathurst's government, to 
 demonstrate that if the measure of the Union had 
 been adopted in 1822 it would have prevented the 
 possibility of the occurrence of such scenes as have 
 been lately witnessed in the Canadas. The Earl of 
 Durham, in his Proclamation to the people of Upper 
 and Lower Canada upon his landing, says, " If you 
 (the people of British America) on your side will 
 
88 
 
 abjure all party and sectarian animosities, and unite 
 with me in the blessed work of peace and harmony, 
 I feel assured that I can lay the foundations of such 
 a system of government as will protect the rights 
 and interests of all classes, allay all dissensionsi and 
 permanently establish, under Divine Providence, 
 that wealth, greatness, and prosperity of which 
 such inexhaustible elements are to be found in these 
 fertile countries." I will only observe, in reference 
 to this passage, that the object of those who ori- 
 ginally contemplated the Union was strictly to frame 
 a measure that would "protect the rights and in- 
 terests of all classes, allay all dissensions, and per- 
 manently establish, under Divine Providence, that 
 wealth, greatness, anc^ prosperity of which (as his 
 Jjordship justly remarks) such inexhaustible elements 
 are to be found in those fertile countries,* ty^.^^,,^ -nsoiii 
 I now proceed to the charge made against Lord 
 Bathurst for having directed necessary paymenta^td 
 be made from the provincial revenue without tlie; 
 sanction of any Act of the Legislature. On this' 
 subject, the Committee of the Legislative Couneil of 
 Upper Canuda, after severely commenting upon the* 
 impolicy of having placed the Civil List within the 
 annual control of the Assembly (a measui'e subseT v 
 quent to Lord Bathurst's administration), proceed 
 thus : " Even sc early as the time of Lord Bathurst, 
 " the government of Lower Canada was in a state of 
 " such ^embarrassment and confusion, frotn tfie total 
 
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 "failure of the Assembly to provide for the Civil List, 
 " that ijord Dalhousie, then Governor- General, was 
 " directed to cause the necessary payments to be made 
 " from the provincial revenue without the sanction of 
 " any Act of the Legislature. We do not say that 
 " this; direct violation of the law of the Province was, 
 " or could be, justified by any necessity. On the 
 " contrary, it would hav^ been better, in our opinion, 
 " even to have repealed the Constitutional Charter 
 " by the unquestionable authority of Parliament than 
 " to suffer it to remain in full force and at the same 
 " time to sanction its di^ect infringement by an Act 
 " of the Executive Government. <• »»' - 
 
 ** But the &ct, that the difficulties arising from a 
 " want of a settled provision for the ordinary expenses' 
 ** of the Civil List did lead the Government to adopt 
 " a measure so certain tv be injurious to their cha- 
 " racter and to the future peace of the Colony, and to 
 " preclude all amicable intercourse between the Go- 
 " vemm«it and the Legislature, is of itself an un- 
 " answerable pixwf that it ought never to have been 
 " thought possible to leave the affairs of the Colony 
 " upon such a footing." •♦ -' ""^^ '-^ " n; ij. !, ^ , 
 
 In respect to this measure, it was in the highest 
 degree incorrect on the pail; of the Legislative 
 Council to state tha^ Lord Dalhousie was directed 
 to cause certain paymentc to be made. The truth 
 of the case will be found in the 29th query put to me, 
 when the same mistake was made by Mr. Ellice. — 
 
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 Ellice.— 
 
 Mr. Ellice stated '* that the Governor of Lower 
 '* Canada has been instruoted to remedy the difficulty 
 " arising from the Assembly nc. voting supplies by 
 •• his own warrants on the receiver, to whom the 
 '' taxes are paid, under the provisions of the Canada 
 " Trade Act ; have ycu any information to give the 
 "Committee upop that poiijt?" — ^Answer: *^ The 
 *' Governor did not receive instructions to appropriii^te 
 *' any duties received under the Canada Trade Act, 
 " but, under the emergency in which he has been not 
 " unfrequently placed from the total cessation of all 
 " supplies to carry on the governrpent of the Colony, 
 " he (the Governor) has drawn upon the unappro- 
 " priated revenue, and such a proceeding is necessarily 
 " to be justified only from the extreme difficulty and 
 " embarrassment of his situation. The discretion 
 " which he has been compelled to exercise on such 
 ^* occasions hus received the sanction of the Secre- 
 " tiwies qf State." 
 
 Every person of common fairness must admit that 
 there is a substantive distinction between a Secretary 
 of State giving directions for the commission of an 
 act abstractedly unconstitutional ^nd his sanctioning 
 such a proceeding on the part of a Governor com- 
 pelled, by the force of circumstances, to resort to 
 such an alternative. But if the censure of the 
 House of Commons iti to be passed upon Lord 
 Bathurst for having sanctioned such a measure,. let 
 us examine if no similar measure has occurred since 
 that period. It is no apology of one measure to' 
 
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 show that it can be paralleled by another, but where 
 
 necessity in one instance has prompted a measure, 
 
 and necessity in another instance has suggested one 
 
 similar in principle, it appears hardly just to extend 
 
 censure to the first and to exempt the latter from 
 
 equal censure. The Report of the Legislative Council 
 
 of Upper Canada, vide page 54, upon this subject, is 
 
 expressed in the following words : " The Govern- 
 
 " ment having left itself without resource has been 
 
 " left by the Assembly wholly destitute ; and after 
 
 " four or five years of unmitigated insult and violence, 
 
 /'without a single grateful return or respectful ex- 
 
 " pression, the Government has at length been com- 
 
 " pelled to pay its judges and other officr-s their large 
 
 " arrears of salaries out of the military chest of Eng- 
 
 " land, while a large amount of unappropriated monies 
 
 : " is lying in the Provincial Treasury ; and when the 
 
 " remedy which it is proposed to adopt for this in- 
 
 ^■** convenience and injustice is considered, it will be 
 
 '" seen at once how strongly inconsiderate has been 
 
 I" the policy of the Government in this very delicate 
 
 add important matter. .;:: i »!•..» ^uj .aiHiTK atio iii 
 
 *^ The measure proposed by Lord John Russell's 
 
 ' " resolutions of 1837 is to take from the Provincial 
 
 ' *• Treasury the money which the Assembly has de- 
 
 i " clinedto grant. The provincial statutes, by which 
 
 ^ " this money was raised, reserve the right of apprO' 
 
 *' priating it expressly to the Legislature, and the 
 
 ' " taking it by any other authority is a direct violation 
 
 " of the law and a plain infringement of the Consti- 
 
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 " tution. How much better would it have been; lo 
 "have exerted the firmness necessai-y to preserwe 
 " what by law and justice belonged to llie Crown 
 '* than by tamely surrendering it, to ineur? the <n()- 
 ** cessity of dishonouring the Crown, «aid furBishiiig 
 f* the Assembly in the midst of their liMitiou&vici- 
 " lence with a ground of complaijit infinitely \ii\<9ve 
 " substantial than all the grievances they had been 
 " inventing for years I u 'n<i».u i\o{ j^avind Jni>fn ** 
 oj " Far from being improved in lumper and de> 
 '^ meanour by the unlimited confidence that had been 
 ^' so incautiously placed in them, the Assembly became 
 *^ more rudely violent than ever, and, instead of em- 
 << ploying themselves in anything useful to the Colony, 
 " they pi-oceeded from one intemperate ac+ '-^ another, 
 ^^ till at last they impeached the Governor' General, 
 ^1> the Legislative Council, and the King's Ministers in 
 ^f / ninety.two outrageous resolutions ; such, in matter 
 " and manner^ as it might have been supposed W9uld 
 ^vhave discouraged any further attempts to cure the 
 ** evils of LowerCan&da by conciliating the Assembly. 
 " In one sense, the course taken by the Assembly was 
 •* honest ; for in these resolutions they plainly an- 
 *• nounced to the King's Ministers that they would do 
 ** nothing that had been expected of them ; that what 
 " they wanted was a Kepublicaii Government, which 
 *' his Majesty might grant them if he pleased, but 
 " which they were resolved at all events to have, and, 
 ** if necessary, by rebellion, in which they doubted 
 " not they would be assisted by the United States." 
 
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 The inference that I draw from these parallel acts 
 is, that there is something defective in the extreme 
 in the Constitution of those Provinces, and that 
 such a defect requires an eaidy and efficient remedy. 
 If I do not deceive myself, J have now succeeded in 
 showing that under Lord Bathursfs administration 
 a real and adequate remedy was suggested far the 
 inherent difficulties growing out of the Act q/ 1791, 
 which established the Constitution of the Canadas as 
 it now exists. For the reasons given by me in the 
 fullest detail in ansH'er to Queries submitted to me, 
 — vide Question and Answers, Nos. 1, 2, 3, and 4, — 
 I do not hesitate to say, that it would have been im- 
 possible that such misconsti'uction could have been 
 put forth and acted upon by an united Legislature. 
 The evils, consequently, which have grown out of 
 such misconstruction, in the case of a single Ijegis- 
 Ifltui'e, would have been avoided. It was no fault on 
 the part of J^iord Bathurst that Ithe two Legislatures 
 were not united, and that the reign of common sense 
 did not prevail, in contrast with that of spurious com- 
 plaint and unreasonable demand. I have shown that 
 the failure of that measure was no faujt on the part 
 of Lord Sathurst. uif t-? o; v.'-mvi ,i<.w (u // 
 
 I have now to advert to m/^asures thQ,t tooH place 
 under the administration of Lord Bathurst, which, 
 had they been followed up during the years sub- 
 sequent to 1825, would have opposed a most efficient 
 prevention, though of a different character, of those 
 disgraceful scenes which have lately been acted in 
 
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 the Canadas. I allude to that system of colonization 
 which was effected in the years 1823 and 1825. In 
 1823 and 1825, a body of more than 2000 Irish emi- 
 grants left the shores of their native country, under 
 the protection of the Government of that day, to 
 escape the misery and destitution beyond human en- 
 durance which formed the rule, and not the excep- 
 tion, of their existence at honie. They were removed 
 to Upper Canada, and most liberally treated. Their 
 colonization, notwithstanding it was effected at a 
 high rate of expense under the incident of a first 
 experiment, so far from being an unprofitable ex- 
 penditure, involved a material national saving, and 
 was, in every sense, an economical measure. These 
 colonists no.w form a wealthy body of yeomanry; 
 and what their feelings are and have been under kind 
 treatment will best be appreciated by the perusal of 
 the following letters, which have passed between Sir 
 Francis Head, the late Governor of Upper Canada, 
 and myself: — ' ■ •"-- •■ -"'^ ^'-'i' ■■■^- .v''" '•ii '^[>i 
 
 lit n v 111-; -.v:.!! f •« Cavendish Square^ May 21, 1838. ,, 
 
 ^ " My Dear Sir, f> •.i*-i;-s,'is hniy to ^niiiwA •-idt 
 Wul you allow me to call your attention to 
 " page 355 of Minutes of Evidence taken before a 
 " Select Committee on Emigration in 1827,* i« 
 
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 * Colonizations of a siini^ character might now be effected ^t a 
 LES,8 rate of expenditure. Tlie subjeet is too important to he dis- 
 cussed incidentally; but the pro(^ as to the economy of ,v measure fur 
 colonizing Irish pauper agrir-uitural laboiu-ers, for whose labour there 
 
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 which, among other documents, you will find ad- 
 
 is no demand in Ireland or Great Britain, and, secondly, for whose 
 labour there is also no adequate demand in a British colony like 
 Upper Canada, is the plainest imaginable. If such demand did eoeigt, 
 there would be no necessity for colonization, which is an expedient 
 only to be resorted to when the labour market in a colony is drugged 
 and can for the moment absorb no more. I am preparing a publica- 
 tion specially on this subject ; but I may here mention that the test 
 of the economy of such a measure was pointed out in the clearest 
 manner in the eighth resolution of the select class of the members 
 of the London Mechanics' Institution. After having summed up 
 the whole subject in the previous resolutions, the eighth resolution 
 records that, " in reference to national wealth, if the expense of emi- 
 " gration be less than the expense of home maintenance there would 
 " be a decided economy instead of an apparent expense in the applica- 
 " tion of national capital to the purposes of regulated and assisted 
 "emigration." )aqv.Ki u Ji.ii) uJiii i-j'.i^'MtflJ ni ^.i ^tn'-jib v><i .>\' 
 
 The strongest objection which has be«n preferred against the policy 
 of colonization, as a national measure, is the presumed expense in- 
 volved in it. It is remarked that it is very true thbt an Irish pauper 
 is much happier in Canada than he would be in hi« own country ; but 
 then it is asked what expense is necessary to remove him. It is 
 admitted that he is not wanted in Ireland — it is admitted that he is 
 wanted in Canada — but still comes the question, who is to pay the 
 money for his removal? If, for the sake of argument, it be admitted 
 that there are a thoustind married labourers in Ireland, with a wife 
 and three children each on an average, forming a body consequently 
 of five thousand persons, and if it be also admitted that there is no 
 demand for the labour of those thousand labourers in Ireland, and 
 that they have no species of prgperty, it is self-evident that, unless 
 they are supported in some manner, they must perish. Let it be sup- 
 posed that they are supported at the miserable rate of 2d. per head 
 per diem, this 2d. per head must either be the gift of charity or the 
 result of spoUation. The annual expense, therefore, of maintaining 
 these labourers and their famiUes in their own country amounts to 
 15.208/.; but, according to the evidence of Lieutenant Rubridge, 
 which I am about to publish, and who has been 19 years a settler in 
 Canada, supported by the strongest previous evidence, these one 
 thousand labourers might be located as Colonists in Upper Canada at 
 the expense of 60/. per family, or 12/. per head, equal to 60,000/. A 
 perpetual annuity therefore (I employ this by way of illustration) of 
 2000^., the funds being at 90. would enable a loan of 60,000/. to be 
 raised ; wheroas, independent of the increase of these parties in 
 
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 " dresses to Earl Bathiirst from the Irish emigrants 
 "of 1823-25. 
 
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 Ireland, supposing them to be charity-fed, their maintenance at \0d. 
 per day per family constitutes a perpetual annuity of 15,208/., which 
 represents a capital sum (cteteris paribus) of 456,240/. instead of 
 60,000/., the sum necessary for their colonization. Of course I am 
 arguing on the hypothesis, that there neither i> nor is likely to be 
 a real demand for their labour in Ireland, or Great Britain. 
 
 Surely common sense points out to any person willing to think, 
 that a perpetual annuity of 15,208/. per annum is precisely aS' 
 much a tax in principle upon Ireland as a tax of 2000/. per 
 annum, under which they might be colonized. The policy, therefore, ' 
 uf effecting the colonization of such parties, and converting them 
 into happy and wealthy yeomanry in Canada, as compared with the 
 policy of keeping them in Ireland as miserable paupers and beggars at 
 2d. per diem, is in the exact ratio that a perpetual annuity of 2000/. 
 per annum bears to a perpetual annuity of 15,208/., or that a capitipl 
 sum of 60,000/. bears to a capital sum of 456,240/. 
 
 An emigration of labourers who expatriate themselves with the 
 view of being absorbed as labourers in the first instance in a colony, 
 necessarily has its limits, which are measured by the real demand in 
 the labour market ; but their colonization with due assistance, sup- 
 posing an indefinite supply of fertile land, has no definite limitation. 
 I trust that the day may soon arrive when truths Vike these, which 
 have slumbered in the unread Reports of the Emigration Committees 
 of 1826 and 18^7, only to be revived in the resolutions of a select class 
 of London mechanics, may find some favour in the houses of Parlia- 
 ment, and be matured into measures of substantive relief for Ireland/ 
 The Irish Poor Law Act will have the effect of an optical instrument, ' 
 and make certain truths apparent, which happily can now no longer 
 be concealed. I will not be tempted to add more in this note on this ' 
 momentous subject, on the due comprehension of which the prosperity : 
 of Ireland, and the repose of England depends. I addressed A letter 
 to Mr. O'Connell in November, 1830, now nearly eight years age. 
 This letter was published in the " Times.'' I then told him, " thut 
 " I was prepared to show that, as far as the emigrant was concemrid, ' 
 " emigration, when duly assisted by capital (in other words, judicious '> 
 *' colonization), had produced the greatest change from human misery^ - 
 " to human happiness that had ever been recorded in the history of 
 " mankind;" — and I alluded specially to the experimental emigra- , 
 tions of 1823 and 1825. The publication in which I am now engaged 
 will, I think, convince the most sceptical of the truth of that assertion. 
 
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 " I need scarcely remind you that these emigrants, 
 " while in Ireland, wee in a state of the utmost 
 '* destitution. Had they remained there they would 
 " probably have perished under the combined inflic- 
 " tion of physical want and mental despair. 
 
 " As far back as the year 1826, their gratitude 
 " for the favours conferred upon them in removing 
 •• them from Ireland to Canada was unbounded. 
 '* Even at that now distant period they thus express 
 "themselves: — • '••"*' >''ii -. v- -,i ^^iLn.U 
 
 ** * For the liberality of a humane and benevolent 
 ** sovereign no language can express our gratitude, 
 " in having removed us from misery and want to a 
 "fine and fertile country, where we have the certain 
 ** prospect of obtaining, by industry, a comfortable 
 ** compet>ence ; and we trust, my Lord, the report of 
 " the progress we have already made on our lands 
 " will not fall short of your Lordship's expectations, 
 " taking into consideration that we have had to con- 
 " tend, in addition to inexperience, with the enemy 
 " of all new comers, the fever and ague, to a v6ry great 
 " extent ; notwithstanding which^ we have been able 
 " to*provide ample provision to support our families 
 " comfortably until we harvest our next crop, s' 
 i.Hi« f y^Q jjave reason to be thankful for the wisdom 
 " and discretion which appointed over us so honour- 
 " able, kind, and indefatigable a superintendent, who 
 ** has used every exertion and care in providing for 
 ** our every want. »( ff- . r- 
 
 ** * Above all we rejoice that, in this happy coun- 
 
38 
 
 ligrants, 
 5 utmost 
 jy would 
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 rratitude 
 emoving 
 bounded. 
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 nevolent 
 ratitude, 
 i^ant to a 
 e certain 
 nfortable 
 report of 
 ur lands 
 ctations, 
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 fery great 
 >een able 
 families 
 
 wisdom 
 honour- 
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 ding for 
 
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 *' try, we are still under the government of our 
 " illustrious Sovereign, to whose sacred present go- 
 " vernment we beg to express the most unfeigned 
 " loyalty and attachment. We beg most respect-* 
 " fully to add that we cherish the hope that more of 
 " our Unfortunate and suffering countrymen, at no 
 " distant period, may, by means of the same generous 
 " feeling, be brought to share the blessings We enjoy.' 
 f " Again they say: — mmitfH woci tj.iir m ,i'>^l 
 
 •* ' Having now resided about a twelvemonth on 
 " our lands we have every reason to be thankful for 
 " the excellent locations assigned us ; and we trust, 
 " notwithstanding the difficulties our inexperience 
 *' has had naturally to cx)ntend with^ tliat the inves- 
 " tigation our worthy superintendent has caused to 
 " be made of our actual improvements, will not be 
 " uninteresting to his Majesty's Government, par- 
 " tioularly to your Lordship, whose zeal in further- 
 ing emigration to this Province is so eminently 
 
 rjsCOnspiCUOWS. ,*:J.'>li^»r^^>< J /■.•.?!!; uS K'fS/fij'jf; ut AuvM 
 
 " * We take this opportunity of expredsing to your 
 ?< Lordship how much of gratitude we owe to the 
 " Honourable Peter Robinson, our leader, our ad>- 
 " viser, our friend, since we have been under his 
 " direction, particularly for his exertions in ad^ 
 '* miniBtering to our comforts during a seacfon of 
 " sickness and privation. :tr> ' ,; u. r, ,: x .?.!. 
 
 " * We beg to assure your Lordship of our loyalty 
 " and attachment to our gracious Sovereign's most 
 -iisacred person and Government.',; ,; 
 
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 «!'n«r« We htivfe been brought frohi a country wKere 
 •* we had many difficulties to contend with, and sup- 
 '* ported here to this time at th^ "xpense of Govern- 
 "mentj oilr every want has been anticipated and 
 " pwvid^cf for, and independence not only brought 
 " within our reach, but actually bestowed upon us.' 
 
 " And again : — 
 
 ** * We trust our orderly conduct as members of 
 " society, and steady loyalty as subjects of the Bri- 
 ** tish Crown, will evince the gratitude we feel for 
 " the many favours we have received. ■•'^*r y 
 K ut Xhgt the blessings of a grateful people may 
 " surround the throne of his Majesty is the sincere 
 "prayer of' * ^<ri\\iu*n'} H^'i^t^^'^ '^i^ ;*^^ '" 
 
 -,■ 4fcj^/;*: • r "• Your Lordship's >^ 44v?««i:> " 
 
 " * Most respectful humble Servants^.* ^ 
 
 " When I endeavoured to point out to parties ad- 
 " verse to emigration these passages so redolent of 
 " gratitude and loyalty, I was told they were ad- 
 y dresses hatched up by persons not really represent- 
 *' ing the emigrants; that the project of converting 
 *• miserable and destitute paupers in Ireland was a 
 *' senseless and dangerous project ; and that if the 
 •' day should arrive when, either from a rupture with 
 ** America or a conflict with the French Canadians, 
 " their loyalty and gratitude would be put to the 
 'jVtest, they would be found miserably wanting;^' '^' 
 ^•fvf*t|.Vnow beg to know whether the emigrants 
 " known in Canada as Robinson's Emigrants were 
 
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 " nada in 1838 in the exercise of that loyal^ which 
 *• they professed in the year 1826 ? »: tiuim ij*ti &#» 
 »,^.^f| v' J remain, my dear Sir, ^^ i i ,rW| 
 
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 ...'.'" My 1)ear Sir, ^ ^i ^iym--} ■ih ii •.?< ^r?«' * ■ A^i^ ■ 
 " I have just received your letter of this day, 
 " in which you inquire whether certain emigrants to 
 ** whom you have alluded * were or were not at the 
 " period of the late crisis in Canada^ in 1838, in the 
 " exercise of that loyalty which they professed in the 
 •* vear 1826?* : 
 
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 " My reply to your question is in the affirmative. 
 "On receiving intelligence that Toronto had been 
 ** attacked by a band of rebels, the settlers to whom 
 " you have alluded were among those who at once 
 " marched from the Newcastle district, in the depth 
 " of winter, nearly 100 miles to support the Govern- 
 " ment. , ^!, ;;.^it*.?)U '■ % .. 
 
 .■4U** On finding a body of the Honourable Peter 
 *• Robinson's settlers self-assembled in line before 
 " Government-house, I went out and thanked them ; 
 to which they replied that they were doing well in 
 ih« world, that they felt grateful to the British 
 
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 '/.Gweriiinent, and that they had come to (ight for 
 )\ 1tlM^ iPri^i$h constitution .♦:• »'v-^Tf o,+ ymiyvAq FjfiR ' 
 sdt'io iiiTil">l remain, my dear Sirj In r-J.-n'fi.-. ,<in[ - 
 bilT fsbjjiiij > " Y^ur jiithfuljiumble servant, - - . •• 
 
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 !!<ap.Rlght'H6n. Sii^R. W. Hoi^obj B&rt."f.i>uli •• 
 
 o{!$fu«h jp /the. JriBh (character when < good feelings 
 e|[ig^nd€tr?(^%)kiii<^ treatment are allowed to pre> 
 domjual^. , ;,j^ay this practical lesson not be thrown 
 a>iray I and may eo easy, and as I contend so eco- 
 Qomicai, a process be no longer despised of converting 
 Irish disaffection into Canadian loyalty ...nraoqqo 'to ^' 
 On this subject it may l:|ei instiructive to I'e^ ttie 
 fpUoiVving observations in the Report sp of]ken, alluded 
 tjo in page 10 :— r-,,? •.. "i-n ,uuU;hiu-u^ L'Yi(m\.\'\ fult '^ 
 . '' But there is nothing connected with, thip re- 
 ''.jl^kftble (Jfiisis (iieferring to Jil?|e crisis ,pf , t^ jHte 
 
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 ^'"'Mr. Mackehzie, of Canadian nbtdrrety, was, in 1 825, the ech'tor'of 
 ^Ift^ooial Advocate; and on the 6th of December in' thait year an 
 ar|j<^le appeared headed " Mr. Robinson's Irish Settlers,'' of which 
 the' fblld'wliig is a copy : — "We have informaticui which ttiay b6 de- 
 ".pended on, stating that theM people have ian Ardent desire Co-^ to 
 " th^ United States, and that they frequently desert. I^o less jlhan 
 **vvitiy iff them decamped lately in one night. To hW fiiuch thore 
 '^w«fU a fnlrpose migl^ 30,000/. have been expended than in recruit- 
 " ing in ^reland for United States soldiers by Canadian councillors I " 
 
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 atteihpt at rebellion) upon which it is so Batisikctory 
 and pleasing to reflect as the very striking proof it 
 has afforded of the loyal and patriotic feeling of the 
 great body of the people of Upper Canada. The 
 instant it was known that the Government was 
 threatened i^'ith violence^ all distinctidnsQf'ieJi^ion 
 and country were laid aside, and, with a noble 
 ardour which can never be forgotten by those livho 
 witnessed it, the people rushed forward by thousands 
 to put down rebellion and tdprPMerve the supremacy 
 of the laws. While neither wealth nor station wasr 
 felt to place the possessor ribbve the cbmmon duty 
 of opposing with arm^ this^ unnbtiiral rebellion, the 
 humblest inhabitant ()f the country gave also his 
 services AvithcHeerftilness, and none rtiore so than 
 the coloured population, whose brave, faithful, and 
 srteady conduct h^Ve entitled them- to great credit. 
 In the course'of this service, and of the more ardu- 
 ous and protracted exertion which it has become ne- 
 (^essary ,toraa|ie o^ our firontier fironj causes to which 
 we shall presently ladvert, it has been made most 
 evident th^tX[ppei: Cajna^a possesses an ineatinojabk, 
 advantage in the hardy^ intelligent, and brav« pppu- 
 lation whip h for many years pa^t has beeju |lowi^gjjfp> 
 us from the United Kingdom. The loyalty of otti* 
 paitive panadians, which was conspicuous intthe]|s^t 
 war, is now aided by a host of spirited and zealous' 
 officers of all ranks who have acquired grea<t [^jin^ig 
 perience in the army and navy of Great Britain, ftnd' 
 
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38 
 
 i'<'by»>ithdusand8i of brave soldiers who have l>ecome 
 « gfeWfelrs among Us, and whose glory it is to devote 
 W)<ihelrlliv^s to tjie service of their Sovereign. With 
 "^^'haiidB^^nil hearts like these a militia is soon rendered 
 Jfl^fficient £tnd formidahlie ; and it may he doubted 
 •«%betheraliiy country of equal population ha^ better 
 •-"'Wditerials for self-defence than the Province of 
 f*^UpJ)e^''04ttadtti' It' is at least certain that no 
 **'^ol0tty iE)fl Grisat Britain can ever have given a 
 *^ mdre diecrdftd proof of attachment to the Crown and 
 '*'^of^ detern^inatibn to support the Constitution and 
 
 '^^ Without the successful stimulus given to emi- 
 
 - Igration generally by those sucdessful coioaiiationfi ®f 
 
 .1898 ittid 1825, it may be doubted whether; the aid 
 
 ^tJerived from ihe " hardyi intelligenty andibrslve 
 
 population" referred to in the Report would' have 
 
 toftiirf folthdonfiing ; mA when tile additiohal aid be 
 
 iibnsidered that would have been afford*^ if the sys- 
 
 ^'(kh of colonization, carried into effect under Lord 
 
 ^^MthUVst's administration in 1823 and 1825, had 
 
 been carried on, as recommended by the RepOiCt of 
 
 'tff^ Bmi'^ratibn Committee of 1827, that measute of 
 
 ^ct^^nkl policy should not bo f«^ kside whdn the 
 
 "iii^ite Arid demerits of Lord Bathurst's administ^- 
 
 ^'^n ilr^ tiiHler k^ew, still less when they are under 
 
 ^'^•^^ulA tlltin' i# ^tkijr *k|»<!>siCon 'an* dHert^^^ 
 
 a 
 
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l)ecoine 
 devote 
 With 
 jndere<l 
 loubted 
 a better 
 ince of 
 that no 
 given a 
 >wn and 
 :ion and 
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 to emi- 
 ukions of 
 ! the aid 
 d lirkve 
 lid huve 
 .1 aid be 
 the sys- 
 ler Lord 
 ^25, had 
 lepojtt of 
 sasuie of 
 h^n the 
 ninistra- 
 ire under 
 
 of Lord 
 
 Bathurst's administration of the affairs of Canada 
 when Colonial Secretary during the year 1832 to 
 1827 inclusive. I must finally be permitted to add 
 a few words foreign to the especial subject of this 
 publication, but due to the memory ijf one of the 
 most sensible and honourable men. The cbarMer 
 of Lord Bathurst, as an efficient public eeryant a% the 
 head of an important political departmenti . fi^ very 
 imperfectly appreciated by the English public., Un- 
 doubtedly his general politics did not respotid to the 
 movement of the latter d^ys in which he Myied; but 
 in all cases where first-rate practical good sense, and 
 a rapid yet discreet vievfr, of intricate subject^was 
 (essentially required, liordBathurat possessed a mind 
 far more able to grapple with difilculties tha«n many 
 of those persons who have underrated his pplitical 
 
 s(i Lord Batiiiiirst hadvnO/affection |<Hr pol^tu^l W' 
 nomy hy twrne, but mco the results of a wisj^ ,c9n?l3|ina- 
 tioh of Colonial measures, which in their^c)^ractfr 
 
 might u^ore or less belong to the science Qfj»o)itl€>al 
 economy, no man was more alive. ,no bfthrjsa need 
 
 to si served under him as Under Secretary off S^tf^^e 
 for thri years 1822-23 24-25-26, and part \s^i^%J. 
 My opinions on several. points were diffejrep^jjEff^fn 
 his, more especially on the Catholic questi^cfn ;^^ju'i. 
 such difference nev«^r for one instant affef(^^f:j^,|J[ie 
 friendly and confidential relations that subsisted be- 
 tvi'een us, and, like his friend the late Du)(eo|'^)^ork, 
 he was too liberal to allow political differences to 
 
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 disturb relations which were valuable from a variety 
 of causes independent of mere speculative political 
 opinions. (^ jy^ y^ m / >« ^ '■• / 
 
 It was under Lord Bathurst's Colonial administra- 
 tion that those investigating Commissions were first 
 established, from whose labours, whatever mino; 
 errors they mwrhiivefaUeh into, much 'Cdlbnial ad- 
 vantage and improvement has unquestionably pro- 
 iiieeded. He fitst introduced the preparation of what 
 were called the " Blue Books," which name is now 
 even adopted in Parliamentary documents ; and 
 when in my evidence before the Canada Committee 
 in 1828 I stated my opinion " that it was expedient 
 that the most unqusJified publicity sliould be given 
 both in the Colonies and the mother Country to aH 
 pecuniary accounts, appropriations, and matters of 
 finance," I only stated the opinion which l?bad. led to 
 the adoption of the Blue Book system, which system, 
 ats far as I have been able to ascertain, has been ap- 
 proved by the most rigid economists.,,',), J, ^l.^yj^' • ^> 
 M., Above all, for a daily sedulous discharge of the 
 peculiar duties of his office as Colonial Secretary, «io 
 public man who has ever filled that situation has 
 Ibeeu more remarkable. These may be facts ua- 
 knlown to the English public, but they are known to 
 '^li6^6 persons who had opportunities of communica- 
 ji^n with the late Lord Bathurst ; and, as his friend, 
 I< akn happy to record them without fear of contra- 
 •fiction from any quai'ter. ' - \ ;• 
 
 
irariety 
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 APPENDIX (A.) .^aoiiiiqo 
 
 '■/i^i-iaiiciflui ii-iuoioJ.a jriiiJiiJi>i iJiUi-i iJljiiir gjivMl . - 
 
 Si'-iiX tn'r/f p.nokshn vnfh^ ' ■ ' "' — ^svnr e?.^)d!i iadi noit 
 
 A BliiL (as amended by the Committee) r for uniting the Le^ 
 
 ffislatures of the "Provinces of Lower and Ujppet- Canada^ 
 
 '■<n.' • • ' Mor>.9«piiir sml tiiomovoiqnii l)njj sgc^nuV 
 
 Wrbrbas in the present situation of the Prpyince? ff Zof^^fv?^ Pnamu*. 
 Upper CanadayW much with relation tq Great Brif-ain&s (o each 
 other, a joint Legislature for both the said Provinces would bie 
 more likely to promote their general security and pr^if^pefity thtui 
 a separate Legiiilature for each of the sa^d 'Xfrovinces, as at pre- 
 sent-by '?»w established } , • • • r * j r oror • 
 Be it therefore enacted by the fiTing's'inosi Excellent Majesty, 
 by and With'thb advice ahd fciontent of ihe Lords Spiritual and 
 Tenrporal, and Comihons, in this present PaicUamenti assembled, 
 wad by the authority of the 3apiie,That so much of an Act passed So much or 
 U: ^he, tl^irty-first year of the rei^^of his late Mtyesty King c. 3i, m pro- 
 ''f.etir^6 the 'ftiird, intituled,' •< An Act to repeal certain parts orj^ta^fo'*'*" 
 ' .*v Aet passed in the fourteenth year of his Majesty's mgn> p^vinMs^of 
 " intituled, * An Act for making more effectual provisiou for Uie {wj cLdr- 
 " 'Government of tb« Province of Quebec in North Americaf^'^^'^^' 
 " * and to make further provision for the Government of the ddifl 
 **^^rprovince,''' as provides for the composing and constituting 
 within each of the said Provinces respecUvelyt a Ltogi)slati,yp 
 Council an<l Assembly, and for the passing of laws by the Legis- 
 lative 'Council and Assembly of each Province, shall be and thb 
 same is beceby repealed, except in so far as the same or ^ny^c^ 
 the provisions thereof, may by this present Act be continKe(At«k 
 applied to the purposes of the joint Legislature to be constitutf(|l 
 in manner hereinafter mentioned : Provided also, that ^o muplfi 
 of an Act passed in the fourteenth year of the reign iorfbis^tm. 
 late Majesty^ intituled, " An Act for making mora cffedtuaiprd- 
 *' vision for the Government of the Province of Qticb^ *^)-^!?lt^ 
 " America" as is repealed by the said Act passed in the thirty- 
 
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 n<T i9i)i > first fear «fiirff9aid» shall be deemed and taken to be, and shalt 
 
 b^^'rrn I remam repealed. 
 
 Henceforth And be it further Enacted, That from and ader the passing' 
 
 Joint Legisia. of tHis Act^ f '^ " f!>hall be within the said two Provinces, and for 
 
 andone'joint the aiitaie joini. e.I/e^slative Council and one Assembly, to 
 
 buihPrJ 'be(«(nn]k)8ed auL constituted in manner hereinafter described,) 
 
 ''"^'' arid winch shall be called " The Legislative Council and Assembly 
 
 ** «f the Canadas ;" and that within the said Provinces^ or either of 
 
 thenij His CM^esty, Hift Heirs or Successors, shall h&ve pdwevj 
 
 during^the tontinUance of this Act, by and with the advice and 
 
 eohisent-of the said; Legislative Council and Assembly of thei 
 
 Conacfof, to maJie; laws fcrir the peace, welfare, and good gor 
 
 vernment of the saki Provinces, or either of them, such laws not 
 
 being repugnant to this Act, nor to such parts of the said Act 
 
 G.^'H.r;)'ji r(ti;>^^ passed in (he thirty-first year aforesaid, as are uot hereby re- 
 
 ' pealed ; and that all such laws being passed by *hc !<aid Legis*! 
 
 lative Council and Assembly, and assented to by His Majesty, 
 
 His Heirs or Successors, reassented to in His Majesty's naftie by 
 
 the Governor in Chief in, and over the said provinces of iioKrer 
 
 end Upper Canada^ or in case of the death or absence of such 
 
 Govemor-in>Chief, by the Lieutenant-Governor of the Fnmnc&of 
 
 Upper Canada for the time being, or in case of the death or ah^ 
 
 sence of such Lieutenant Governor^ then by the Lieutemat-GkH 
 
 Vemor uf Lower Canada for the time being, w in case there 
 
 bhall beilo Lieutenant-Governor at such time resident in the 
 
 Province cS Lower Canada, then by the person administering 
 
 the govemment thereof for the time being, shall be and fthe same 
 
 areMhereby declared to be, by virtue of and ilnderthe auihorityiof 
 
 this Act, valid and binding to all intents and purposes whatever 
 
 01 xomavoo witiiiu' Uib said two Provinces. n. 
 
 Jtlntimfai^ 'And be it further Enacted, That the bresent members of the 
 
 latiiveCiinluA 
 
 ta«MiitUtof Legislative Councils of Lower and Upper Canada tballt hy 
 Members of ^#tue of this Act j and without any new or other oommissioas 
 ciii. ""^ fbr>that purpose, constitute together the Legislative Council of 
 the CanadaSi which said members shall take precedence in the 
 tnn%ith inroi joiol Legislative Council according to the date of the instruments 
 «n<«x-n.| "*''<> 091 'ifhicb they were originally summoned to -the Legislative 
 M)aii,(Uud 13<iUiicilstof'lfee (wo Provinces respectively; and that it shall ftlso 
 
m 
 
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 be lawful for His Majesty^ His Hdrs or Saoeessoni^tfromttilti&td otut Per- 
 
 1 . 11. ■ . . , , sons may be 
 
 time, by an instrament under his or their sign manila^ to aatho^ ■ummoned. 
 rize and direct tbi said Govemor-in-Chief^ oiriticitseof^tiiiixltfath (i>'uie9n<>H 
 or absence^ such taither per sod, and in such otfder rttfepfectivel^ Us -i>|Hi»-K] i.iiot 
 is hereinbefore directed, to summon to the kaid'XiegislativeCouni'* huotMiuiinu 
 cil, by an instrument, under a seal to be transmitted by UisMadl '*^ ^oVnuud 
 jesty to the Oovernor-in-Chief, or under aiiy othel; seal iwbiehithe' '''^"''^ 
 said Governor>in-Ghief shall be by His Majesty directedlo tnsib 
 for the purposes of this Act, and which shall be ca^Eirdthd Qreai 
 Seal of the Canodas, and shall be applied only to the purposes 
 ditected by* this'' AcC, such other person or persoM^a^HiS' Ma- 
 jesty, His Heirs or Successors, shallthiaki lit| and that every 
 person who shall be so summoned to the said Legislative Goun¥ 
 oil' shall thereby become a member thereof^' < ; > ^r!::"'".ifr')'i 7311 ('»d' 
 o-And be it further Enacted, That such persons only shall be Such Persons 
 sommoAed to the said Legislative Gouikcil, as by th^ said above? summoned " 
 raentiotafed Act, pasted in the thirty-first year aforesaid, are di* by 310.3. 
 Ketted to be summoned to the 'Legislative Council of the sal 
 two Provinces respectively ; and that every member of the said 
 Legislative Gdunoil shall hold his seat for the same term, and 
 with the saitnerightsi titles^ hcmours, ranks, dignities, privileges and 
 inhrmuntties^and subject to the same provisions, conditions, restrie- 
 tionsj Hmitatiocs and forfritures, and to the same mode of proceed- 
 ing, for hearing and determining by the said Legislative Council 
 all questions which shall arise touching the same, as are in the said 
 Aeti passed in the thirty "fifst year aforesaid, mentioned eil4 
 comaiw^, with respect to the mombers thereby directed to be 
 kimtnotied to'the Legislative Council of the two Provinces 
 respectively. .;M^vt.. '■;/ .loA anf) 
 
 And be it further Enacted, That the Oovernur-in^Ghiei^iobiia Gorernorio 
 case of hii death or absence, such other ' person, and innSUch ra^e^tii*- 
 order respectively as is hereinbefore directed, shall have pomlcft'^!?u#rit' 
 Jl,nd authority from time to time, by an instrument 'nhder;i»bcwf!(?!M 
 Gr6at Seal of the Cunadas^ to constitute, appoint and reftiQif^ '"^"^'.'.n^ 
 the Speaker of the said L^slative Council. ,;i.V)W.t'v> ori) 
 
 And be it filu'ther Enacted, That the memberis af ^pt^senl toinj^ Joint Aswm- 
 posiiig thfc Assemblies of the said two Provinces shall^togetl^!!' of the ^wnt 
 wittiBdch new. members as slmll or a»y bieMlunifedifciirjAillvdr ^'thl'^to 
 
44 
 
 continue ofvthe SAwl Pro«iliccitt<^^^rtti^e(^ely iff manner heriemiftftbr tiieti^ 
 
 ins.uniaM ^iotwdv^inn and cpnstitMte the Aswaibly of the Canadast and 
 
 J^TOd. *' riudl be and continue until the first day of July one thousand 
 
 wghthuildsred andtweoty-fiwe, unless sooner dissolved ; and that 
 
 iaiease.of a dissdution of the said Assembly, or of vaeancieH 
 
 ooeiinring theretni membeifs shall be returned firotft the same 
 
 «0ttQtie8 and places, and in the same manner, and in the samt 
 
 ntfmbersy except as hereinafter otheryirise provided, as ilow by law 
 
 ihrf ard leturncdwithin the two Provinces respectively^oriu hahio- 
 
 Aet of Upper j^j^d whercas an Act was passed by the Provincial Legislature 
 
 Canada, * 
 
 60 0.3. to 0f Jjnper Canada, in the sixtieth year of th)B reign of his said 
 
 continiie in '^'^ 
 
 tot^:,„ ,, late Majesty^ intttaled; V An Act for increasing the Reprfe- 
 »r..ir-.'fj *■ sentation of the Commons of this Province in the House of 
 •i,;|;;;*,;V"l" Assembly;" Be it therefore further Enacted, That the said 
 jl^U^. Act, and all the provisions therein contained, except as herein- 
 after otherwise provided, shall remain in full force and effect, and 
 shall be applied to the representation of the said Pirovinee 'Of 
 ■^w,M'r<r:i Upper Canada in the joint Aikisehibly, in like manneir as the 
 <iiii?>li-'>^ pame were applicable to the representation thereof in the Ab- 
 "^ ct'ntMo ! wmbly of the said Province of Upper Canada txfore^l^s Adt 
 s !.i was passed, ({.t •pnilo-iq^oi hue .ybv'uooqam ayjftivoK*! bias oriJ 
 GoTernorof And be it further Euacted, That it shall and may be lawfipl 
 da may erect for the Govemor, Lieutenant-Governor, or person administering 
 ouroft^ "'' the government of the said Province of Lower Canada for the 
 iWaMpsto ^^^ b«ing, from time to time as he shall judge expedient, fVom 
 ▲HemUy!^" aud oot of that part of the said Province of Lower Canada which 
 )bie|s been erected into townships since the number of represeH- 
 t^ives for the said Province was settled by pruclaeaatioo, to form 
 f^n4 erfPt n^w counties, by instrument or instruments under the 
 jGirei^^ Sieal of the said Province, each such joew oouuty to con* 
 • ' SIIILpI ^P^^^^ than six townships ; and that when and so often 
 MiRRK'^Mcb new county shall be formed and erected as aforesaid^ 
 |^;Q9,v^rnoT, Lieutenant-Goverior, or person administering the 
 g)9yeri;ii|iieot of the said Province of Lower Canada, shall issue 
 |ii,^rit fpf the election of one member to serve for the same in 
 ti\i^ ^s^^mbly ; and that whenaoever the said Governor, Lieu'^ 
 tenant-Governor, or person administering the government ai; 
 ^fiTj^^pM^ 8h^,4e[^m it.pxpediiei^t tbat^oy wiifih new county^ or 
 
 
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 any county heretofore erected within the said Frovihoir trf' iMuiur «'"'<'»» 
 dmadOt and at present represented by onlv^one: membei^;BfaaH -"^^^^ ^'ioa 
 
 t 11 1 I_ u 11 . 1.1 . iiUvjWMf, 
 
 be represented by two members, he shaH an like loanDdriiHto i>9viua 
 writs for that purpose : Provided always^ that no fsuMivibiOli^df 
 any counti(S» now erected or to be. hereafter hrccted within dlher 
 of the said Provincesj except as hereinbefore provided witfairespeet 
 to the said townships, shall extend or' be construed tm extend <to 
 increase the number of representatives for snch counties tbPvoi- 
 vided also, that the number' of r^res^ntatiVea for eadi ProvindC 
 shall not exceed sixty. , ; v;,j mi<nq na// vjh un ^uovMih.^ ly.i.k "'"';J,,',^„'^^, 
 
 And be it further Enacted, *E1iafrBa«bt by ii^iefar'lheiiaEhb^ 
 of representatives of either Prof ince shall beialtered, shair hetie>- number of 
 after be passed by His M&jesty, by andiwitb^the advice and eoh- wteT^ht 
 $eut of the said Legislative Council and Asaembly^uDless the ^T^'am! 
 sune shall have been passed by two-thirds at least of the members houws. 
 present at the question for the second and tjhird reading of the 
 same in the said Legislative Council and Assembly respectively; 
 
 And be it further Enacted, That all and every the provisions Provisiou 
 and regulatiiMis respecting the appointment and nomination, Kspecting' 
 duties, privileges and liabilities of returning officers for either of fem^^nln'*" 
 the said Provinces respectively, and respecting the eligibility, '""*• 
 qualification and ^disability of persona to sit as members itt the , „,;') Vr.w,ij 
 said Assembly;' or to vote' on the election of such inem'beif^, *:','" "'' 
 ahd respecting any oath to be taken by candidates or vototi M "iJtojao 
 such elections, and respecting all other proceedmgs at such de^ »'T" "^ 
 tions, and respecting the times and placjes of holding such eleiiiP .iurmt^'A 
 tions, as' aire contained In the> said above-mentioned' Ai^'}:JajSli^ 
 in the thirty-first year aforesaid, Mccptiu so fei'-as'tlie^aid'^tiii 
 visions and regulations are "hereby in anywise altered, siiiglH 
 remain and continue \\\ force in both of the-'said'ftivvJriSi^^ 
 and that' ail 'and eV4»ry ^e provisions and regiilatiobs i^s^iin| 
 (Sie objects Above eniiriK nited, or any of them j which ^t^^^diittiihJld 
 in any Act or Acts of the provincial Legislattrre»; wbi6h' a!i^PnttU 
 in force in either of the said Provinces respectively, shialiWiWflai 
 and continue in force within such' Province, Ox^eptr'i^ the'^^^fi^ 
 are bereby in anyways altered,- tiBtSl otheHKrise provic^' for % Ittii 
 joint LeMSlature.'* v!oii'^iia<t'ifnb<; ««!>anq io ^lomfjvoO-inBmt 
 
 nu And be it forther Enacted, Thtt'Wheif aiii*>k) 'often fc^i^Bfftki-Govetnof 
 
nayiummon al'i^ 
 a new Ai- 
 •embly. 
 
 *».', 
 
 ht!6t!t»tity i6 ifUMthdn 4nd cad together a new A&' 
 
 ^^liibly for the said two Provinces, it shall and may be lawful 
 
 for the said Governor-in-Chief, or in case of his death or absence, 
 
 thein for such other person, and in such order re^btively as is 
 
 hereinbefore directed, by an instrument under the said Great Seal 
 
 <if the Canddast to summon and call together the said Assisihbljr 
 
 ks hereinafter expressed and provided. 
 
 And shall "And be it further Enacted, That Writs for the election of 
 
 tortti™. members to serve in the said Assembly shall be issued by the 
 
 &i.^**^ Governor, Lieutenant-Governor, or person ddministeriog the 
 
 31^87 government of the Province wfthin whith such members shall 
 
 < be chosen respectively, in the same manner and directed to the 
 
 same officers and returnable within the Saihe period, as in and 
 by the said Act, made and passed in the thirty-first year albresaid, 
 ' is directed and provided:' '>3"^'o-i4 aiU ui i-iuivM] Jqmioo buB' 
 
 Qiiaiiflcation And be it further Enacted, That on the flint general election 
 
 bereuiPro- of members for the said Assembly, Which shall take place from 
 
 and afler the passing of this Act, ^i&d'on all Subsequent' elebt ions, 
 
 whether general or for particular pi aicW, ih cases of vacaficy, 
 
 which shall be holden in either of the said Provinces, no person 
 
 shall be capable of being eliectdd, who shall not be legally po^ 
 
 sessed, to his own u6e and b^efi't^ of laiidls' aiid tsnemehts ^ithiii 
 
 ^one or other of the said Provinces; of ^th^ Va,WB of Five htiiidred 
 
 pounds sterling over and above all rents, charges adid in- 
 
 TOnim?»°Y«m duoibratices which may affect the saintej sudi lands and fene- 
 
 ^?^ '^Z 'merits being by him held in freehold; Ifl fi*f,'6r itt'roturei atid 
 
 v.^! ''^wc> ^'^hat every candidate at such election, befbre h^ shtill be eap^bfie 
 
 ''"".A'!rf,'f.* '^<ii*'bdng elected, shall, if reiiuired by'any other candidate, <ir by 
 
 OathttftiiMYhi returning officer, take an Oath in the following form, or to 
 
 •ffect. the fbllowing effect:— 
 
 riiivj w i^ J g^ ^ Swear, That I am legally ahd hoii&fida pos- 
 
 sisdmofjit sessed to my Ovra use and benefit, of lattds atid tene- 
 
 " meats within the Province of ^' '^^ ^«^^^ ^Q^- Canada, of 
 
 ■^ofeS '"^"^^ " the viilt^ of ^^^'^^ /^-^ ^'^■'^^«"a. 1 .^it^ing^ overand 
 
 uvM^-Zuaa ^^^'^ "*^ ** aboVc all rents, 6fiai^^' aind incumbrances which may 
 
 .nHlli wf ^"«^"°'^" affect the same; and that the said lands and tenements 
 
 'f'^Xj ^'^^^^ "'" i»"e by me held in freehold, in fief, or in rot • • [mihe 
 
 «»i.«rf»«oM 10 ^'^i^'^ c(is€niAfhei\^ii that I have not ttblained the same 
 
 perty, to the 
 value of 
 £500 ster- 
 ling. 
 
47 
 
 i^.-'f-f' 
 
 i«iA W9II /raudulently, for the purpose of eQahling me to^ r^-; 
 blv/jif "i turned Member to the Assembly of i\\& Cmofiasi wft^ 
 .9.t,i.j^,l'* also that I. am otherwise qualified, accoi;diDg t<),t)M 
 Kf Kii; vf'** provisions of law, to be elected and returned tp serve m 
 < .■> t ." a Member thereof.*' , 
 
 Provided alwi»ys,That nothing in this Act contained shall, 1^/^ 
 construed to affect any Act now in force in eitiher pf the saji^ 
 Provinces respectively relating to the qualification (other than 
 as reqpects property) of any candidate or voter at elections. , ^ 
 And be it further Enacted, That if any person shall know^ 
 in^y and wilfully take a false 09,th respecting his qualification, 
 either as candidate or voter at any elec^on as aforesaid, and shalj 
 thereof be lawfully convicted, such person shall be liable to the 
 pains and penalties by law inflicted on persons guilty of wilful 
 and corrupt perjury in the Province in which such false oaths 
 shall have been taken. 
 
 . And be it further Enacted, That whenever hereafter any ques- 
 tiqn shfill arise touching the validity of the election or return of 
 a^ny person in either Province to serve in the Assembly, such 
 quiQ^tion shall be tried in the Joint Assembly, according to the 
 mode of proceeding now established by law in that Province in 
 IvMlch the disputed election or. return "shall have been made, 
 
 until a uniform coi||[;se ojf PRJC^fdfng ^ha^be ^ft'yu?^''*i'!*Mi?^Jfe'^ 
 bpthf Provinces,'. -..,,, n- lj,,r, »,.,. ,,,„, ,,„:r,,,,J .'1!",^ 
 .^nAndinbe it further Enacted, That it shall and may bu lawfijt 
 vfpr thfr^8aidGovernor-in-Chief,or in case of his death or absenc^, 
 Ihe^ for such other person, and in such order respectively as^s 
 ,biereinhefi»e directed, if at any time he shall deem it expedient, 
 to suinn^Dn 9«d authorize, by an instrument under hi^^^and t^d 
 seal, two members of the executive Council of each Proyij^qfi^jto 
 sit in every Assembly, with power of debating therein, ^nd with 
 all other powers, privil^es, and immunities of the members 
 thereof, except that of voting. -vf ],'),-« -' 
 
 And be it further Enacted, That the said Legislative Council 
 and Assembly shall be called togetlier for the first time at some 
 period not later than the first day of September, ^e thousand 
 eight hundred and twenty-fi>ur, and: once aAevw^iTjds in every 
 twelvecalendar mouths; and that the said Gpv^nor-in>Chief, or 
 
 
 
 e.'ii7/ 'lOHiti 
 
 ir.fq..,|t l.rt 
 
 Phmu* 
 swearing 
 falsely guilty 
 of iierjuty. 
 
 Triali of con 
 teitad Eleo. 
 tiou. 
 
 Governor 
 may summon 
 Two Mem- 
 bers of the 
 Executive 
 Council of 
 eacli Province 
 to the As- 
 
 Joint Leai*. 
 lature to be 
 summoned 
 not later than 
 1st Septem- 
 ber 1824. and 
 once every 
 twelve 
 
 Months after- 
 wards. 
 
 m 
 
48 
 
 ini ctt«« of his d^ath or dbsence, such other person, and in such 
 order rcspcotiTely as is hereinbefore directed, shall and may 
 convene Uie first and every other session of the said Legislative 
 Council and Assembly, at such places within either Province, 
 and at such times, under the restrictions aforesaid, as he shall 
 Jud(^ iftosteondacive to the general convenience, giving due and 
 silfflcietit notice thereof, and shall have power to prorogue (he 
 ^vJiD.^mc firom tinie to time, atid to dissolve the same by procla^ 
 .beis^i/matton dC-ei.Jhvise, whenever he shall d^em it necessary or 
 
 •wc: 
 ,9UUiJ(i. 
 
 I 
 
 I'M'. • '»!' 
 
 Ymh. 
 
 Majority of 
 Votes to 
 decide. 
 
 expedient ' 
 
 Every (utare And be it Ait*ther EnaeteA^' Tb&t '«<reiry' Aft'sekhblf liereafter t^' 
 rootinw^fl^ b« sumaaomdanti chosen, shall continue for five years, from the 
 day of the retHiYn of the writs for choosing the same, and no 
 longer ; subject, nevertheless, to be sooner prorogued or dissolved 
 by the said Governor-in'Chief, or in case of his death or absence, 
 by such other person, and in such order respectively as is here* 
 inbefbre directed. 
 
 And be it further Bnacted* That all questions which shall 
 avis9 . in the said Legislative Council or Aissentbly, except in 
 the cases herein otherwise provided, shall be decidied by the 
 Qu^ocity of voiceaef such membei^s as shall be pt^eeent ; and that 
 iniatl cases where the 'voices shall be eqtltt^ the Speaker of such 
 Ootfneil or Assembly thall have a casting voice. 
 
 Provided always, and be it further Enacted, That no membeif 
 
 8rG.'3,toi>e either of the Legislative Council or AAsetnbly shall b« permitted 
 
 t0 <iSit't)P vote therem, until he shall hate taken and subscribed the 
 
 oftth ptes^ribed fop that purpose by the said Adt passed in the 
 
 tHiirty-fiMt 'year . aforesaid, before a persoa duly authorised td 
 
 administer the same, as in and by the said Act i» directed. 
 
 RoyatAMfBfMAjwibfST it further Enacted, That atly BiH which shall be 
 
 orwttiihridp(UMed<b>f the Legislative Council and Assembly shall be pre- 
 
 byli/«u>i f^hMd liivr'H in' Majesty's assent to the said Governor-imChief, 
 
 riaiijtna'itV ;<ibl* Ih case of his death or absence, to'such other person, and in 
 
 sabltMer'T^^ectlvely, as is hereinbefore directed, who shall, 
 
 aittO^d^ tb his discretion, declare or withhold His Majesty's 
 
 aii^NNM 'td stteh Bill, or resei^e such Bill for the significatibn of 
 
 His Majesty's pleasure thereon, subject always to the same ptp- 
 
 , #t<i«oon'><v]ifiotiPfndiragulatldn9 with respect to Bills which may either be 
 
 Oatli pre- 
 ■cribedby 
 
49^ 
 
 :hl Ci! 
 
 assented to, or from which His Majesty's assent may be with*< 
 holden, or which knay be reserved as aforesaid, as the cafw inayi> 
 be, as in «nr< by the said Act, passed in the thirtynflrsti year* 
 aforesaid, are contained and enacted with refard tOMSuch. BiUi> 
 respectively. ; . i ^ ; 
 
 > And be it fur^h^r Enacted, That ail lavf s, at^tutes, or ordir^uLawt 
 
 • i_ • a slow ID fur09 
 
 n^nceR whiphare in force at the time of pMsingtbis Act, within to contiunt. 
 the said Provinces or either of them, or in any part, thereof henLrl- 
 respectively, shall; remain andoontinue to be sf.ih* same £»ieff«,Kitored.'" 
 authority, and effect in each of the said Provinces respectively a«^ 
 if thia Act had not beep, made, ciccept in asifar ^9 Ihe same are 
 repealed or varied by this Act, or in so far as the same shall opf 
 mayi be hereafler by virtue of and under tJie authority of this 
 Act repealed or varied by Hi» Majesty, his Heirs or Successors, by 
 and with the advice and consent of thjB «aid Legislative Council , 
 and Assembly. '■ 
 
 Mil •ttlttiif.i 
 
 CI (/I: 
 
 And be it further Enacted, That all rishts, privileges, immitnir i^ivHages 
 
 ° * o » „f Member! 
 
 ties,iaQ<ladvantage»whieb' are at present leguly exercised and to contiiiue. 
 eiyoyed by t.hei)n<embera of the Assemblies o( Loioer and Upper. "^"^ 
 Cqna^a respectively, shall continue to be exercised and ei^oyedl ^ 
 by^tbem as members of the said Assembly of the Canadas, in aa- 
 fu^.fmd, as ample a manner as heretofore : Provided alway8,.Tliat 
 no privilege of the said Legislative Council or of the said A»*^ 
 8^^^, shall e^Aend or be construed to extend to authorise, the 
 iif^uisonmexit of any of His Majesty's subjects not being menit') 9<f 
 beia fff the^a^d Legislative Council or of the said Assembly^ort 
 oflSiqeifa oir seryants of the said bodies respectively, until an Aot< * 
 bi^ pt^ssed declaratory of ,Ui& righto ^apd .privil^gj^ of the sajdlt 
 
 •(f) fl->llll;j 
 
 o),6.i> le 
 
 .avAat 
 
 h'lr.^ o-'f '7(1 hffT ii! .-r .M'rtf..- «) -f) f'iii'u'umhu 
 
 bodies in. this respect. 
 
 And be it further Snacted, That from and after the passing/of HmeaJbuh 
 thisi Act, talliwritten proceedings of what nature soever of the PnwM^ui, 
 8a|(j^^gislalive Council and Assembly, or either of it^em, shftllYetSS?* . 
 be \n the English language and none other; and that nt Ah^tSfKgtoh 
 ei^ of the space of fifteen years from and afler the passing of tlHs *'*""' 
 Act, aU Rebates in the said Lfegislative Council or in tjh4>#ai4s 
 Assembly, shall be carried on in the English language and UPti^/i 
 
 other, .y.^^ 3^-, jj, ^7j(j.«ljj J00i';'iir ,0 ■Jij.!';l1} ■i-,u<'mi<i r'>{ta3i^r»M 8tH 
 
 3^i^5l^irhere^<by.the8j|id Act of the Imperial jPftrUattent'.Ofperioiupra. 
 
50 
 
 itS^on^ GV^at Britain^ made and passed in the fourteenth year aforesaid, 
 oif*RomT'not '"*>*"'*^« '* ^^ A** **" mailing more eflTectual provision for the 
 
 to bo affected. •' government of the province of Quebec, in North Ameriea,** it 
 was, amongst other things, declared. That His Majesty's subjects, 
 professing the religion of the church of Rome^ of and in the said 
 . Province of Quebec, might have, hold and enjoy the free exercise 
 
 of the said religion, subject to the K ing's supremacy as in the 
 said Act mentioned, end that the cler/gy of the said church might 
 '^'f^ hold, receive, and enjoy their accustomed dues and rights with 
 respect to such persons only as should profess the said religion ; 
 Be it therefore further Enacted and Declared, that nothing in 
 this Act contained, nor any Act to be passed by the said joint 
 Legislature, nor any resolution or other proceeding of the said 
 Legislative Council or Assembly, shall in anywise affect or be 
 construed to aPect the free exercise of the religion of the Church 
 of Ruine by His Majesty's subjects professing the same, within 
 , either of the said Provinces, but the same may continue to be ex- 
 
 ercised, and the clergy of the said church and the several curates 
 of each respective parish of the said Province of Lower 
 Canada, now performing the clerical duties thereof, or who shall 
 hereafter, with the approbation and consent of His Majesty, 
 expressed in writing by the Governor or Lieutenant-Governor, 
 or persons administering the government of the said Province of 
 Lower Canada for the time being, be thereto duly collated, ap* 
 pointed, or inducted, may continue to hold, receive, and enjoy 
 their accustomed dues and rights in as fiill and ample manner, 
 to all intents and purposes, as heretofore, and as is provided and 
 declared by the said last-mentioned Act. 
 
 And be it further Enacted, That all the provisions, regulations, 
 and restrictions made and imposed in and by the said Act, 
 passed in the thirty-first year aforesaid, with respect to any Act 
 
 passed by the "^ . ... ' . . „ . , . \. 
 
 joint Legis- or Acts contammg any provisions of the nature therem particu- 
 larly mentioned and specified, shall and the same are hereby de- 
 clared to extend and apply to each and every Act which shall 
 be passed by the said Legislative Council and Assembly, and 
 which shall contain any provisions of the nature in and by the 
 -'.i. ; said last-mentioned Acts set forth and specified. 
 
 Aeoounto,&e. And be it further Enacted, That all and every the accounts. 
 
 ipi 
 
 visions of 
 31 0. 3, to 
 extend to 
 Acts to be 
 
returns, papers, and uicumenls, wliich by any Act now in force {,"^,",''11}^ .- 
 ill either Province are directed to be laid before the Legislature iui[<>i*»«ur«. 
 thereof respecitvely, shall, under the penalties theiein provided, • a,u>''W 
 be in like manner transmitted and laid before the Legistbture of ;;, 
 the CanadaSf during the continuance of such Acts. 
 
 And be it further Enacted, That the officers and other persons 8«Urit>sor 
 receiving salaries or allowances in respect of services rendered by iht l«kUi»* 
 them in the Legislatures of their respective Provinces, shall con- tluoulm" 
 tinue to receive such salaries and allowances as here'olore, until p^ji'^^j'^u, 
 otherwise provided for by any Act which shall be pussed by His ^ 
 Majesty, His Heirs or Successors, with the advice and consent of i 
 the Legislative Council and Assembly of tlt^e Can£rd(M« 
 
 *<i'y"-i .JH -,;if;^ v_tj| inrri ^<|} ')o lynH'^ 'i!i!l,'^'^H'>.-i\ fbi;/' », 
 .^*"^i/;j^ .-ill' jj« f'tVMC'y ').{}/;'■ oV^i),.,<fo1fj^^^^^ Hiif A-AUrj'i 
 
 •f^^4v»f/iflM villi""" -nl -K<<!)Si/lli(r) t*J^nny;;jrJ,J 
 
 |fH[fi« i>rt.»; .-W^osHi ,tit"ii o» '•*^y'!ift<^i>f()rtf jV-^br)!))!^ to',{wnK>i 
 ft^Ji/fW^i 'jl>i>/|-H {^i^ Mi/<';iif:rtr shish l;rjd feiirH InJiio^iiruiia tlmi^ 
 
 
 ■M 
 
 S 
 
 ■5i»!j!2{/;r-<^^<^ 
 
.»W' 
 
 5-2 
 
 ::'? *!! 
 
 ■!ji 
 
 ■;' i 
 
 -(ir{ir 7'i''. ifi <•■' .'fiivfiilt rf(,.f vfiK'iii ' ,"i'' i. '■>•■' f-'ii '('.!, ' 
 ■'"*U:} tiii dl '^Dfi'i- ' ■' ■''•" ''■ '■ 
 
 .^, ,,,,,,.,,,,„;, .APPEND IX (B.) dM,.>.... 
 
 iHiic. in.'i; y'"'."'^'* ^" "" 
 
 \>>''''i y t!:l> r. j-ftninf -'-■'!: 
 
 Examination of the Right Hon. Robert John Wilmot Horton, 
 , ' ' '" '' a Member of the Committee. .. ' 
 
 Query 1. — Are you of opinion that under the Act of 31 Geo. 3, 
 c. 31, tiie Assembly of Lower Canada were legally entitled to ap- 
 propriate the duties collecteu under the 14 Geo. 3, c. 88? — I am 
 of opinion that they vvere not legally enti'iied, for the foilows T.g 
 reasons : first, there were two Acts passed in the year 1774, relating 
 to the Government of Canada, the one the 14 Geo. b, c. 83 ; the 
 other the 14 Geo. 3, c. 88 ; the Act of the 31 G<jo. 3, c. dl, 
 commonly called the Quebec Act, specificully repeals so much of 
 the Act of 14 Geo. 3, c. 83, as in any manner re'ates to the ap- 
 pointment of the Council for the affairs of the ?ai(i Proviivcc of 
 Quebec, &c. : it appears to me to be conclusive that that partial 
 repeal involved the continuance in full force of the remainder of 
 those Acts, the latter of which imposed the duties in question. 
 
 Secondly, the 46th clause of the 31 Gee. 3, c. 31, which is 
 mainly founded on the 18 Geo. 3, c. 12, commonly called the De- 
 claratory Act, enacts, '• That nothing in this Act contained shall 
 extend or be construed to extend to prevent oc affect the execu- 
 tion of any law which hath been or shall at any time be made by 
 His Majesty, his heirs or successors, and the Pirliament of Grciat 
 Britain, for establishing regulations or prohibitions, or for im- 
 posing, levying, or collecting duties for the regulation of naviga- 
 tion, or for the regulation of the commerce to be carried on between 
 the said t'vo provinces, or between eitner of the said provinces 
 and any -.her part of His Majesty's dominions, or between 
 either of the said provinces and any foreign country or state, or for 
 appointing and directing the payment ol drawbacks of such du- 
 ties so imposed, or to give His Majesty, his heirs or successors 
 
■^r'-j-^TTT'.7T-;ff'^'yi»r^T''a%r»;r"TV' .'r^i7]ir^ 
 
 53 
 
 I. .,1 
 
 ■;'-,Il( '■■'{: 
 iT HORTON, 
 
 31 Geo. 3, 
 
 itled to ap- 
 88 ?— I am 
 e foilows T.cj 
 74, relating 
 c. 83.: the 
 >. 3, c. 31, 
 so much of 
 8 to the ap- 
 ?rovii,ec of 
 that partial 
 mainder of 
 [uestion. 
 L, which is 
 lied the De- 
 tained shall 
 , the execu- 
 te made by 
 nt of Groat 
 or for im- 
 [ of navi^a- 
 on between 
 1 provinces 
 ar between 
 state, or for 
 of such du- 
 successors 
 
 any power or authority, by and with the advice and consent ot 
 such Legislative Councils and Assemblies respectively, to vary or • 
 repeal any snch law or laws, or any part thereof, or in any man- 
 ner to obstruct the execution thereof." — A reference to the rates 
 contained in the 14 Geo. 3, c. 88, will show that thty regulate the 
 commerce to be carried on between the colony and other parts of 
 the world, according to the phrase employed in the 46th clause : 
 they impose a duty of3rf. on every gallon of brtindy and other 
 spirits, of the manufacture of Great Britain ; 6d. for every gallon 
 of run." or spirits imported from any of His Majesty's sugar colo- 
 nies in the West Indies ; 9d. for every gallon of rum imported 
 from 6ther colonies in America ; l-y. for every gallon of foreign 
 brandy or other spirits, of foreign manufacture, imported or 
 brought from Great Britain, and so on ; thus presenting a gra- 
 duated scale of duty, having a refertnce to the commercial inte- 
 rests of the country. If the Committee will then refer to s. 47, 1 
 think they will be convinced that it was intended to maintain this 
 Act in force, and not to repeal it ; the section runs thus — *' Pro- 
 vided always pnd be it enacted by the authority aforesaid, 
 that the net produce of all duties which shall be so imposed" 
 (making no allusior whatever to the duties which have been so 
 imposed) '* shall at all times hereafter be applied to and for the 
 use of each of the said provinces respectively, and in such nan- 
 ner only as shall be directed by any law or laws which may be 
 made by His Majesty, his heirs or successors, 'by and with the 
 advice and consent of the Legislative Council and ^"sembly of 
 such province." 
 
 Thirdly, because if rprerence be made to the ca^e of other 
 colonies which possessed Legislatures at the period of passing 
 the Declaratory Act, it is perfectly notorious that not a single 
 year has elapsed since that Declaratory Act was passed, in which 
 duties have not been levied, and even remitted to this country, ant! 
 deposited in the Exchequer, which have been raised under British 
 . lets passeA prior to the Declaratory Act. I beg leave to call the 
 attention of the Committee to the case of Jamaica. The Coramis- 
 sionevs of Customs in Jamaica have annually remitted to this coun- 
 try, duties levied under the following Acts ; I take the schedule as it 
 apiiears in the year 1822 : duties per Act 25 Ch, 2, 31/. 18.v. 6rf. ,• 
 
 E 2 
 

 54 
 
 
 
 ditto, 6 Geo. 2, and 4 Geo. 3, 3255/. 8s. If </. ; if the construc- 
 tion contended for by the Assembly of Lower Canada be legal, it 
 is quite clear that all these duties have been illegally transmitted 
 from the period of the Declaratory Act. 
 
 Fourthly, because Colonial Acts which were in force prior to 
 the Declaratory Act, and which directed the appropriation of 
 monies other than by the Legislature, have still continued in 
 force, notwithstanding the Declaratory Act ; this fact appears to 
 me to afford by analogy a proof in defence of the construction for 
 which I contend. I would call the attention of the Committee to 
 the Bahama Act, passed in the 8 Geo. 2, for levying divers 
 sums of money for the payment of officers' salaries, defraying the 
 expense of holding Assemblies, and other contingent charges of 
 Government; not only has this Act been in force since the period 
 of the Declaratory Act, but the law officers of the Crown gave 
 an opinion in February 1821, that ascertain suspending Acts had 
 terminated, under which this Act had been repealed, it must be 
 considered to have revived, and that His Majesty might apply 
 the monies levied under it, without the intervention of the House 
 of Assembly, and without any other specitic appropriation by the 
 Legislature of the Bahamas. For these reasons I am decidedly 
 of opinion, that the construction contended for by the Colonial 
 Assembly of Canada, namely, that they have a legal right to the 
 appropriation of the revenue raised under the 14 Geo. 3, is a 
 construction not to be maintained.""' ''"""' ;^"'' ''"^'^ ''' "■'" ' 
 
 I would now beg further to explain to the Committee, that the 
 disputes arising between the Executive Government and the As- 
 sembly, have mainly arisen out of this construction. From the 
 year 1818 up to the year 182.5, difficulties constantly occurred in 
 consequence of the maintenance of that opinion by the Assembly ; 
 but in 1825 an Act was passed during the administration of Sir 
 Francis Burton, (5 Geo. 3, t. 27,) in which is the following pas- 
 sage : — " Whereas, by the message of his Excellency the Lieu- 
 tenant-Governor, bearing date the 18th of February 1825, laid 
 before both Houses of the Legislature, it appears that the funds 
 already appropriated by law are not adequate to defray the whole 
 of the expenses of your Majesty's Civil Government in this pro- 
 vince, and of the administration of justice and other expenses 
 
55 
 
 mentioned in the said message : and whereas it is expedient to 
 make further provision towards defraying the same," &c. It is 
 evident here, tiiat the validity of the 14 Geo. 3 is admitted under 
 the phraseology of this Act, it is admitted that the funds raised 
 under it are legally appropriated ; and under this Act of the local 
 government no difnculty whatever existed, except that they prac- 
 tically reduced the estimate of the charges placed hy the Execu- 
 tive Government upon the Crown revenue, by diminishing the 
 proposed grant of 65,002^ l^-. Sd., to a sum not exceeding 
 61,611/. 7^. llrf., thereby leaving a deficiency of3390L 13*. 9d. ; 
 this sum of 3390/. I3s. 9d. had reference to certain items spe- 
 cifically objected to by the Assembly, which items had been 
 specially charged upon the Crown revenue ; but as the Assembly 
 voted this sum collectively, and not by items, it was necessarily 
 left to the discretion of the Lieutenant-Governor to deal with that 
 deficiency as he might think best. The simple fact being, that 
 under that Act 3390/. 13«. 9d., deemed to be ' essary for the 
 public service, as would appear by the Lieutenun Governor's es- 
 timate, was not voted by the Assembly. With respt'ct to the 
 manner in which that deficiency was practically met^ the Set > ttary 
 of ^tate (Lord Bathurst) abolished some of the ofiices included . n 
 this 3390/., and transferred others to the territorial revenues of 
 the Crown, over which the Assembly did not so directly, at least, 
 claim to have any jurisdictioa ; it is perfectly true that, in the 
 first instance, Lord Bathurst remonstrated against the conduct 
 of the Lieutenant-Governor in having sanctioned this Act; but 
 it was under the impression that the words of the Act did not 
 maintain the integrity of the Crown revenue, and consequently 
 that it was contrary to the Roya^ instructions. In the succeeding 
 year 1826, the Assembly, with a view of obviating the construc- 
 tion of the Act of 1825, as sanctioning the integrity of the Crown 
 revenue, passed the following resolutions before they commenced 
 the vote of supply for that year: — " Resolved, first. That the ap- 
 propriation of any sums of money already levied, or which here- 
 after may be levied on His Majesty's subjects in this province, 
 otherwise than such application is or mc^y be directed to be made 
 by the express provisions of law, is a breach of the privileges of 
 this House, and subversive of the governmetit of this province as 
 
 ill 
 
 I 
 
56 
 
 
 imi 
 
 established by law. Second, That no law imposing duties or taxes 
 on His Majesty's subjects in this province, providing funds for 
 the defraying tlie expenses of His Majesty's Civil Government, 
 and those of the administration of justice, or of the Legislature 
 in this province, can be held to confer upon any person a power 
 or right of applying the monies thence arising, or making a special 
 appropriation and distribution thceof, without the consent and 
 authority of the Legislature. Third, That the sums granted 
 and appropriated fcr any special service should be applied by the 
 executive power only to defray the expenses of that service, and 
 that the application of any surplus of funds to uses for which they 
 were not appropriated is a misapplication of the public money, a 
 breach of public trust, a violation of the rights and privileges of 
 this House, and subversive of the government of this province as 
 established by law. Fourth, that this House vi^ill hold personally 
 responsible His Majesty's receiver-general of this province, and 
 every other person or persons concerned, for all monies levied on His 
 Majesty's subjects in this province, which may have le^-^lly come 
 into his or their hands, and been paid over ^y him or them, under 
 any authority whatsoever, unless such payments be or shall be 
 authorized by an express provision of law." I am not enabled to 
 state to the Committee whether the bill of 1826 was verbatim the 
 same as the Act of 1825, be-ause ine bills are not sent over to 
 this country ; but that bill was amended by the Legislative 
 Council for the purpose of unequivocally maintaining in its terms 
 the integrity of the Crown revenue raised under the 14 Geo. 3; 
 the consequence of that amendment was, that the Assembly re- 
 fused to proceed with it upon its return from the Upper House, 
 and the supplies were in consequence not voted. I must not 
 omit to represent most distinctly to the Committee, first, that the 
 manner in which the proceeds of the 14 Geo. 3 were disposed of, 
 were uniformly laid before the Assembly, who had consequently 
 the power to remonstrate against any of the items mcluded therein, 
 or, by diminishing the general supply, practically to affect the ap- 
 propriation of that revenue ; but the Assembly were determined 
 to do nothing less than contend for the legality of the appropria- 
 tion of that revenue by themselves, and that construction was 
 considered as one to which His Majesty's Government, con- 
 
OT^TvrPTVy-m T^*' T**/ ■ - 
 
 F^ 
 
 57 
 
 sistently with the maintenance of the interests of the Crown, , 
 could not consent, i -t.r. .,,,i >•.( ^ -,:. Wn* ^'vi ".!,;»/ .p. nc 
 
 I have thus endeavoured to afford accurate information to the 
 Committee upon this point, and beg to remind them that there 
 never was un indisposition to give the Assembly the absolute ap- , 
 propriation of this revenue, provided they would consent to vote , 
 *'..ti existing Civil List for a term of years, or ibr the period of . 
 the King's life ; and it was considered in the state of collision of 
 feeling between the Assembly, as those reprosenting the French, 
 interest, and the Legislative Council as representing the English 
 interest, that if the Civil Government Wt.. dependent annually i , 
 upon a vote of the Legislature for its support, there was little 
 chance of the public service being carried on in that colony. It 
 appears to me impossible for any person to form a just view of 
 the case in dispute between the Colony and the Executive 
 Government, without ascertaining whether the charges which 
 were made by the Executive Government upon the Crown 
 revenue, were such as ought, or ought not, in fairness to have 
 received the sanction and approbation of the Colonial Assembly. 
 
 Query 2. — On what ground is it stated that in the 11 years that 
 elapsed between 1773 and 1784 the English law prevailed in the 
 townships of Lower Canada ? — A Royal Proclamation was issued 
 in 1763, of which the preamble was in the following words : — 
 " Whereas We have taken into Our royal consideration the ex- 
 tensive and valuable acquisitions in America, secured to our 
 Crown by the late detinitive treaty of peace, concluded at Paris, 
 the 10th day of February last; and being desirous that all our 
 loving subjects, as well of our kingdoms as of our colonies in < 
 America, may avail themselves with all convenient speed of the 
 great ^ ^neflts and advantages which must accrue therefrom to ^ 
 their commerce, manufactures, and navigation, we have thought . 
 fit to issue this our royal proclamation." In the body of the 
 proclamation there is the following passage : — " And whereas it 
 will greatly contribute to the speedy settling our said new go- , 
 vernments, that our loving subjects should be informed of our 
 paternal care tor the security of the liberty and properties of those 
 who are and shall become inhabitants thereof, we have thought 
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 have in the letters patent under uur great seal or Great Britain, 
 by which the said governments are constituted, given express 
 power and direction to our governors of our said colonies 
 respectively, that so soon as the state and circumstances of the 
 said colonies will aomit thereof, they shall, with the advice and 
 consent of the members of our Council, summon and call ge- 
 neral asseuiblies within the said governments respectKrely, in 
 such manner and form as is used and directed in those colonies 
 and provinces in America which are under our immediate govern- 
 ment; and we have also given power to the said governors, 
 with the consent of our said Councils and the Representatives of 
 the people so to be summoned as aforesaid, to make, constitute, 
 and ordain laws, statutes, and ordinances for the public peace, 
 welfare, and good government of our said colonies, and of the people 
 and inhabitants thereof, as near as may be agreeable to the laws 
 of England^ and under such regulations and restrictions as are 
 usedin other colonies ; and in the mean time, and until such assem- 
 blies can be called as aforesaid, ail persons inliabiting in, or re- 
 sorting to, our said colonies, may confide in our royal protection 
 for the enjoyment of the benefit of the laws of our realm of 
 England ; for which purpose we have given power under our great 
 seal to the governors of our said colonies respectively, to erect 
 and constitute, with the advice of our said Councils respectively, 
 courts of judicature and public justice within our said colonies, 
 for the hearing anu determining all causes as well criminal as civile 
 according to law and equity, and as near as may be agreeable to 
 the laws of England, with liberty to all persons who may think 
 themselves aggrieved by the sentence of such courts, in all civil 
 cases, to appeal, under the usual limitations and restrictions, to 
 us in our Privy Council.'' 
 
 '^'"/^QMery 3. — In what respect do succeeding Acts of Parliament 
 
 ' affect the proclamation of 1763 ?— The Act of the 14 Geo. 3, c 83, 
 was intituled, " An Act for the making more effectual provision 
 
 ' for the Goverment of the Province of Quebec in North America." 
 Under the 4ih clause of that Act all former provisions made for 
 
 "that province were to be null and void after the 1st of May, 
 1775; and with reference to the proclamation of 1763, that 
 clause proceeds as follows : — " And whereas the provisions made 
 
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 by the said proclamation in respect to the civil government of the 
 said province of Quebec, &c. &c., have been found upon experi- 
 ence to be inapplicable to the state and circumstances of the said 
 province, &c. &c. ; Be it Enacted, That the said proclamation, 
 so far as the same relates to the said province of Quebec, and the 
 commission under the authority whereof the government of the 
 suid province is at present administered, and alt ordinance and 
 ordinances, &c. &c., and all commissions, &c. &c., be hereby re- 
 voked, annulled, and made void.*' The clauses of the Act, from 
 four to nine, contain provisions affecting the French Canadians ; 
 and then the ninth clause is as follows : — *' Provided always.that 
 nothing in this Act contained shall extend or be construed to ex- 
 tenfl to any lands that have been granted by His Majesty or shall 
 hereafter be granted by His Majesty, his heirs and successor^, 
 to be holden in free and common soccage." It appears to me, 
 therefore, that as far as affects the English population resident 
 in the townships, the proclamation of 1763 was to be in full 
 force as respected them. In the Act of the 31 Geo. 3, c. 31, 
 commonly called the Quebec Act, the Act of the 14 Geo. 3, 
 c. 83, just quoted, was only repealed as far as relates to the ap- 
 pointment of a council for Quebec, consequently the rest of its 
 provisions must be considered to remain in force ; and the 43rd 
 clause of that Act is as follows : — " And be it further enacted 
 by the authority aforesaid, that all lands which shall be hereafter 
 granted within the said province of Upper Canada shall be 
 granted in frt.e and common soccage in like manner as lands 
 are now holden in free and common soccage in that part of 
 Great Britain called England ; and that in every case where 
 lands shall be hereafter granted within the said province of 
 Lower Canada, and where the grantee thereof shall desire the 
 same to be granted in free and common soccage, Ihe same shall 
 be so granted." The concluding part of this clause provides for 
 any alteration to be made by local laws in the Canadas, and 
 proceeds as follows : — " But subject nevertheless to such altera- 
 tions with respect to the nature and consequences of such teaure 
 of free and common soccage as may be established by a,ny law 
 dr laws which may be made by His Majesty, his heirs or i^uc- 
 
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 cessors, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative 
 Council and Assembly of the Province." The next reference to 
 this subject which appears in legislation is in the eighth clause 
 of the 6 Geo. 4, c. 69, commonly called the Canada Tenures 
 Act, which declares that lands holden in free and common aoc- 
 cage in Lower Canada are to be subject to the laws of England, 
 as it appears to me in the strictest accordance with the 43rd clause 
 of the 31st of the late King, when that clause is taken with re- 
 ference to preceding legislation ; which clause as already cited 
 provides absolutely that grants in Upper Canada shall be made 
 in free and common soccage ; but . with respect to Lower 
 Canada, there was a power to the Local Legislature to modify 
 that enactment if it should be deemed expedient by the Legisla- 
 ture and by the Crown. 
 
 Query 4. — What is the substance of the Act which has provided 
 for an increase in the number of representatives in the Legislative 
 Assembly of Upper Canada? — The preamble of this Act, passed 
 7th of March, 1820, is to the following effect : — '* Whereas from 
 the rapid increase of the population of this province, the repre- 
 sentation thereof in the Commons House of Assembly is deemed 
 too limited, so much of the several laws now in force as regulate 
 the nuniber of representatives to serve in the Provincial Parlia- 
 ment are repealed." It then proceeds to enact that counties 
 containing 1000 inhabitants should be represented by one 
 member ; when they contained 4000 inhabitants, by two mem- 
 bers; that certain towns, when they contained 1000 souls, should 
 be represented by one member ; that the population should be 
 ascertained by the returns of the several town-clerks ; that when- 
 ever a university should be established in the province, it sliould 
 be represented by one member. The Governor to issue writs of 
 election, as provided by the Sist of the late King. The Act 
 not to lessen the number of any members now returned for any 
 county, nor to make it necessary to issue any new writs of elec- 
 tion on account of any increase of inhabitants since the last elec- 
 tion. Counties containing less than 1000 souls to be attached 
 to the next adjoining county, having the smallest number of in- 
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 to vote for a county in respect of the same property. Inhabitants 
 of towns sending a member, not to be included among the in" 
 habitants of counties, for the purposes of this Act. 
 
 Query 5. — What was the substance of the bill for uniting the 
 Legislatures of the provinces of Upper and Lower Canada, which 
 was brought in and withdrawn in the session of 1822? — So much 
 of the 31 Geo. 3, c. 31, was repealed, as provides a Legislature 
 for each of the provinces, of Upper and Lower Canada, henceforth 
 to be onejoint legislative Council, and one joint Assembly for both 
 provinces. The joint Legislative Council was to consist of the 
 existing members of bdth Councils, with a power for His 
 Majesty from time to time to summon such other persons or 
 person as His Majesty, his heirs and successors, should think fit. 
 Such summons to be carried into elTect under the enactment of 
 the 31 Geo. 3. The Governor was to have the power of ap- 
 pointing and removing the speaker of the Legislative Council ; 
 the joint Assembly was to consist of me present members of the 
 assemblies of Upper and Lower Canada, and to continue till the 
 1st of July, 1824, unless sooner dissolved. The Act of Upper 
 Canada of the 6 Geo. 4 was to continue in force, and to be 
 applied, subject to any alteration in the Union Bill, to the 
 representation of the said province of Upper Canada in the joint 
 Assembly, in like manner as it had been applicable to the special 
 representation of Upper Canada prior to the passing of the Act. 
 The Governor of Lower Canada was authorized to erect new 
 counties out of the townships, such counties to be represented in 
 the Assembly, or ^ny old county now returning one member to 
 be represented by two members. It was provided at the same 
 time that no subdivision of any counties now erected, or to be 
 hereafler erected within either of the said provinces, except as 
 hereinbefore provided with respect to the townships, shall extend 
 or be construed to extend to increase the number of representa- 
 tives for such counties. It was also provided that the number 
 of representatives for each province should not exceed 60. No 
 Act to alter the number of representatives was to be passed 
 unless sanctioned by a majority of two-thirds of the Legislative 
 Assembly, as well as the Legislative Council. The provisions 
 of the 31 Geo. 3, respecting elections, were to remain in force. 
 
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 The quulifictttion for a member was to be of the value of 500/. 
 sterling of real property, and an oath was prescribed to ensure 
 that qualification, and persons swearing falsely to be guilty of 
 perjury. The trials of contested elections were to be the same 
 as under the 31st of the King. The Governor was to have the 
 power of summoning two members of the Executive Council 
 in each province to the Assembly, who were to sit with power 
 of debating therein, and with nil other powers and privileges 
 and immunities, except that of voting. The united Legislature 
 was to meet once in every twelve months, and to continue for 
 five years, till the period of a general election : majority of votes 
 to decide. The oaths prescribed by the 31 Geo. 3, for the 
 members of the Council and Assembly, to be taken ; the decla- 
 ration of the Royal Assent to be regulated by the enactments 
 of the 31 Geo. 3; all laws in force at the time of the passing 
 of the Act within the said provinces, or either of them, or any 
 part thereof, to be unchanged, and the privileges of members to 
 continue precisely the same. It was further enacted, that from the 
 period of the passing of this Act all written proceedings whatever 
 should be in the English language, and at the end of 15 years 
 after the passing of the Act, all debates in either House to be 
 carried on in English, and in no other language ; that nothing 
 in this Act, nor any act to be passed by the joint Legislature, nor 
 any resolution or other proceeding of the Legislative Council or 
 Assembly, was to affect or be construed to affect the free exercise 
 of the religion of the Church of Rome, or to prejudice such 
 accustomed dues and rights as the clergy of the said church 
 might hold, receive, and enjoy, subject to the King's supremacy 
 as recognised in the Act of the 31 Geo. 3, and the clergy 
 and curates now performing clerical duties, or who hereafter, 
 with the approbation and consent of His Majesty, expressed in 
 writing by the Governor, &c., should be duly collated, appointed, 
 or inducted to any parish, were to continue to hold, receive, and 
 enjoy their accustomv°d fees and rights as fully as they were 
 entitled to do under the Act of the 31st of the King. All the 
 remaining provisions of the Act of the 3l8t of the King were to 
 be in force. ..i; f^.,- Ui rmi^'\i:>aiii- 
 
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 chi(>fly to the principles of the bill, or to any part of the details ? 
 — There were objections made from both the Canadas, but more 
 especially from Lower Canada, against the principles of the bill ; 
 there were also objections' made to some of the details. 1 ' ' ' 
 
 Query 7. — Will you have the goodness to point out tb the 
 Committee what parts were objected to ? —It was objected that the 
 principle prescribed for the representation would necessarily give a 
 greater proportion of representatives to Upper Canada, inasmnch 
 as the Act for increasing the representation of the commons of 
 that province, according to the scale of population, was to be still 
 in force ; whereas no Act existed in Lower Canada to the same 
 effect; consequently the enactment of any legislation to that 
 effect in Lower Canada would depend upon the united sanction 
 of the two Assemblies afler the period of union. There was an 
 objection also made to the qualifications, and to the introduction 
 of two members of the Executive Council, as debaters and not 
 as voters; but the enactment which prescribed that all written 
 proceedings were immediately to be in the English language, 
 and that af^er 15 years all debates were to be in English, was 
 considered as affording a pretty conclusive indication that it was 
 intended progressively to render the united province English as 
 to its institutions. 
 
 Query 8.— Have you any observation to make upon that pro- 
 vision of the bill? — It is impossible to deny that the intention of 
 that bill was to realize the expression employed by Mr. Pitt in 1791, 
 namely to assimilate the Canadians to the language, manners, 
 habits, and above all the laws and institutions of Great Britain. ' , 
 
 Query 9. — Did not Mr. Pitt accompany that declaration l)y say- 
 ing that he only looked forward to such an assimilation taking place, 
 if it could take place with the free will of the French Canadians, 
 and was not the very ground on which he separated the colony 
 into two provinces in order to ensure the French Canadians from 
 the possibility of the Government attempting to produce such an 
 assimilation without their entire assent and concurrence ? — ^The 
 Union Bill was considered to be necessary in consequence of th6 
 inherent defects in the bill of 1791, which placed the two pro- 
 vinces in a state of perpetual collision, from which no escape was 
 anticipated at that time, except through the medium of a legisla- 
 
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 tive union, and consequently, whatever abntract objections there 
 might have been to that measure, it was considered as one of per- 
 manent public necessity. .... t>- '■ < '"' . ir. min 
 , Query 10. — But the Committee are not to understand that you 
 represent Mr. Pitt as having desired to assimilate the laws and 
 habits of the two populations in Canada upon any other ground 
 than the entire concurrence of the French population in such 
 assimilation? — I only mean to imply that Mr. Pitt contemplated 
 from the legislation of 1791 that such assimilation would take 
 place. I think the Union Bill of 1822 was defective in not more 
 explicitly securing the rig'hts, privileges, immunities and ad- 
 vantages enjoyed by the French population under their own 
 laws, and making such laws so far permanent as to be incapable 
 of repeal by the operation of this united Legislature. >>'> •<,- •< 
 
 Query 11. — ^Do you think that any bill could now be framed, the 
 object of which should be uniting the two provinces, which could be 
 made free from objection by the inhabitants of both provinces ? — 
 I am satisfied that no bill could be made which would be free from 
 objection, but I am convinced that that bill of 1822 might be so 
 materially improved as to remove a great part of the objections 
 which were not unjustly preferred against it, and I do not myself 
 see any alternative between the proposition of transferring to the 
 province of Upper Canada a port which shall enable her to main- 
 tain her communication with the sea, and thereby effect her in- 
 dependeneeofthe Lower Province, with respect to revenue arising 
 from duties on goods imported seawards, or, on the other hand, 
 the carrying into ejBTect the provisions of a legislative union. 
 
 Query 12. — Could a port be given to Upper Canada by any 
 other means than by annexing Montreal to that i)rovinee P — 
 I am not aware of any other geographical facility of accomplish- 
 ing that object. r!*4T f"r(?'iVin ?<■.•*'> • ■5t tl)f*!«,'if; iT.*.i .t ilivt- ■'t-'i -r •» 
 
 ,- Query \3. — Do you think that the objections to ihe latter 
 arrangement on the part of the Lower Canadians would not be 
 almost as strong as to an incorporating union of the two provinces? 
 — I entertain no doubt that very strong objections would be made 
 bytjde Lower Canadians against such a proposal, but £ repeat, that 
 under the relative circumstances of the iwd' provinces, 'and the 
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 I do not myself perceive any other than thene alternatives. 1 
 cannot, however, avoid remarking, that nhould considerations of 
 mutual defence, and a sense of common interest, create a gprowinp^ 
 opinion in favour of a legislative union in the two provinces, there 
 does not appear to me to be any conclusive mode of adjusting 
 their interests, with respect to the appropriation of their common 
 revenue, other than by an identification of interests, involved in 
 v'he measure of union ; but, at the same time, of a union which 
 should guarantee to the French population their laws and insti- 
 tutions in the seigneuries, to the extent of preventing the com- 
 bined Legislature from voting away those laws and institutions, 
 and at the same time should reserve space enou<>;h in the unsettled 
 part of the province, so us to allow the French population 
 to spread itself within the sphere of the operation of French law. 
 
 Query 14. — Can the difficulty which arises in adjusting, collect- 
 ing, and distributing the customs revenue of goods imported into 
 the St. Lawrence, in your opinion, be better provided for than by 
 the provisions which are contained in the Canada Trade Act? — 
 1 do not imagine that, under the presents 'rcumstances of the two 
 provinces, any moi^e can be suggested more likely to accomplish 
 this object than that which is prescribed under the provisions of 
 that Act, r«j '/' V It ill in ijuvi ;iji< j ^it.) 1' )-j//i.'»ij iivuiin It'll;, /If,', ■X}'- 
 
 Query 15. — Several witnesses have stated to the Committee 
 that, in their opinion, a system of duty and drawback might be 
 adopted, and that a system of warehousing, in Lower Canada, 
 goods which should be ailerwards imported into Upper Canada and 
 pay duty there might be adopted, and that either of them would 
 be preferable to the course which has been enacted by law ; were 
 those modes under the consideration of the Colonial Department 
 at the time that that measure was decided upon ?-^A variety of 
 suggestionsiwere made to the Colonial Department at that period^ 
 and it was found then, as I believe it will be found now, that the 
 Lower Canadians were disposed to think thai those facilit'.es 
 might exist, and that the Upper Canadians were almost unaiii- 
 mousiy of a contrary opinion. ■ n ^v r., . i 
 
 Query 16. — Mr. EUice in his evidence alludes to certaiii ob- 
 structions which prevented the provisions of the Act called the 
 Catiada Tenures Act from being carried into effect, and he refers 
 
 
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 to instructions which were sent to the local government lo carry 
 into effect the provisions of the Act of 1822 ; can you inform the 
 Committee of the nature of those instructions ?— Ths Executive 
 Council considered the question only in the abstract, and simply 
 with reference to an equitable valuation of the rights of thj Crown, 
 which the seigneurs might wish to redeem ; but the great object of 
 the clause was, not only to relieve the seigneurs from the feudal 
 dues payable to the Crown, but abo to enable them to free their 
 censitaires, or sub-tenants^ and thereby to introduce generally a 
 system of tenure more favourable to agriculture and to the general 
 improvement of the. province. Lord Dalhousie was therefore 
 instructed to give every encouragement to the seigneurs to free 
 those who hold under them, and to make it known that in the 
 event of any seigneur distinctly engaging to free his censitaire on 
 a principle of -equitable composition whenever any of them may 
 demand it, the Crown will in that instance free the seigneur at 
 the rate of live per cent., oc ii^ Qther wordst oneriwentieth instead 
 ofone-fiflhofthevalue. ; >; 1 ^iC ir ^ . !; 1,;;' ,, 
 
 Query 11. — The Committee have been informed that a la r^e 
 portion ofthe land in Lower Canada has been granted in such large 
 masses to persons who are not resident, and can hardly be found ; 
 have the goodness to state what, in your opinion, would be the 
 best mod'.' of removing the difficulties which now retard the cuUi- 
 vation of those lands ? — I should be prepared to concur with Mr. 
 EUice in opinion, that if a taxation of the waste lands could be 
 carried into effect, it might he as convenient a mode of remedy- 
 ing that defect as the remedy of escheats ; but, at the same time, 
 I do not at all concur with Mr. Ellice in his opinion ofthe prac- 
 tical difficulties of carrying a practical system of escheat into 
 effect. It has been practically carried into effect in New Bruns- 
 wick to the extent of a million of acres ; and I see no reason why, 
 under proper regulations, it might not he equally carried into 
 effect in Lower Canada. It would be necessary for this purpose 
 that time should be given to enable parties to execute those stipu- 
 lations of settlement duty, which hitherto they have omitted to 
 execute ; as it would be unfair to visit upon them suddenly the 
 consequences of that omission which has been tacitly submitted 
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 this principle of ^hSftt may be carried into effect, which is, the 
 forfeiting a certain portion of the land itself to the Governiiient 
 as a penalty for non-improvement, such forfeiture to take place 
 periodically until the whole would be forfeited, supposing the 
 party not to carry the stipulated improvements into effect. In- 
 structions were sent out from Lord Bathurst , of the date of 
 
 1826, for the purpose of forming a commission of escheat, 
 and of considering the best practical remedy of applying the 
 principle ; but nothing is more certain than that, unless some 
 practical remedy be supplied, either of taxation or of escheat, the 
 granted lands, which are now in a state of waste in Lower Canada, 
 must effectually prevent all improvements upon an extended 
 scale in that province. 
 
 Query 18. — ^Would the operation of a tax on land remaining 
 waste conflict in any way with the system of escheat that is directed 
 to be carried into operation? — I should think the principle of 
 escheat might be carried into effect by the Crown simultaneously 
 with any tax which the Legislature might impose upon unculti- 
 vated land. Lord Dalhonsie states, in a letter addressed to Lord 
 Bathurst, of the 5th of April 1825, that with respect to escheat and 
 forfeiture of grants of land for non-performance of conditions of set^ 
 tlement stipulated in the letters patent, he has to observe, that of 
 two and a half millions of acres granted in this manner in Lower 
 Canada, not less than seven-eighths remain uncultivated, and 
 therefore liable to resumption by the Crown. It is supposed that 
 six millions of acres held under seigneural tenure are under similar 
 predicament, but with respect to this desci ption of lands it is 
 doubtful how far the Crown will have a right to resume them if 
 the proposed conversion of tenure should take place to any extent. 
 Lord Dalhousie adverts to the expediency as well as the right of 
 recovering such immense tracts of land for the settlement of emi- 
 grants. He adds, the obsolete course of proceeding which the 
 ancient law of Canada points out for the resumption, both of 
 soccage and seigneural lands, is so incumbered with difficulties/ 
 and so inapplicable to the present state of the province, particu- 
 larly with regard to grants in the townships, that it is next to 
 impossible for the Crown to resume its just rights. In conse- 
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 •introduced into the Canada Tenures Act which provides for the 
 •'formationof courts of escheat. I'Hji'Uhii jwu^j i. .i^.i iu u ni 
 '"^ Query 19.-^What steps have been taken by the Colonial Office 
 "tfl( temedy this evil ?— In thcGth Geo. IV. c. 56, commonly called 
 the Canada Tenures Act, the 10th clause provides, that courts of 
 escheat shall be constituted in the province of Lower Canada to 
 tfy forfeitures of uncultivated lands liable to escheat to the Crown. 
 ' "In the year 1826, Lord Bathurst sent instructions to Lord Dal- 
 housie to appoint one of the inferior judges to act as commis- 
 sioner of the court of escheats under the clause of the Act of 
 Parliament. Lord Dalhousie replied, that the judge had not time 
 to execute the duties, and that some other person must be ap- 
 ' pointed, upon which Mr. Huskisson wrote out instructions to 
 him, authorizing him to appoint a person competent to perform 
 the duty. It is to be recollected that no fund whatever exists, 
 unless voted by Parliament, for carrying into effect this principle 
 of esuheat. The difficulties attached to carrying into effect a 
 satisfactory principle of escheat were considered so great, that 
 when Colonel Cockburn was sent out inspector and commis- 
 sioner, he received separate instructions to communicate with the 
 governors of all our North American Colonies, and especially 
 with Lord Dalhousie, for the purpose of reporting to.theGovern- 
 ^' ment at home the best practical method of carrying the system of 
 '^'escheat into effect at the earliest possible period. I beg to ex- 
 press my opinion, that unless a system of escheat be carried com- 
 '' 'jfi^letely into effect, there can be no possible improvement for those 
 ' <k)Ionies, and that I have every reason to believe that the informa- 
 ' tion in the hands of Government is such as will enable them 
 
 at an early period to execute such a system. • •!!] ';» i'.*h* 
 •i'<i" Query 20. — Is the system upon which land is now granted in 
 ' Canada such as to prevent the probability of a recurrence of this 
 ' ihcibnvenience ? — Entirely ; but a statement of the system upon 
 which it is granted may be given in to the Committee. The sys- 
 ^ ''^em Upon which it is now granted is, it is granted precisely in pro- 
 ^ i portion to the capital which the individual has to lay out upon it. 
 3fiJ i Query 21. — Is adequate security insisted upon for the expendi- 
 '^^ Itire of capital upon the land ? — I consider that such security is 
 
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 Query 22. — ^The Committee were informed by Mr. Eiiice, that 
 he had found great difficulty in effecting a commntationQf the 
 tenure of his land from seigneury into free and common tioccage, 
 under the provisions of the Act for that purpose ; will you state in 
 what mode the difficulties may be removed ?-^The first arrait|>.e- 
 ment that was made by Government, with respect to the change 
 of the tenure from the feudal tenure to free and common soccage 
 only, provided for the release of the immediate tenant under the 
 Crown. The consequence was, that the purposes of that change 
 of tenure were not carried into effect. The seigneur became 
 released from his engagement to the Crown, but was not com- 
 pellable to release his sub-tenant from similar engagements. 
 The Canada Tenures Act provided, that in cases where the 
 Crown thought fit to remit its rights to the seigneur for a consi- 
 deration of five per cent, on the estimated value, that the seigneur 
 on his part should be compelled by law to submit to arbitration 
 as between himself and his sub-tenant, so that the sub-tenant 
 could claim from him the same change which he had effected in 
 his own case with the Crown. > :. // af!: •■,? r.' > !««..(.»:? «. i.<^f 
 
 Query 23. — What are the difficulties which prevent that ar- 
 rangement being carried into effect ?< — I consider the difficulties 
 that interpose u\nm that point are the entire indisposition of the 
 French population to avail themselves of this permission, and in 
 point of fact it is a permission which is only available on the 
 part of the English*;* \:> nf',m>i -.t »-.'.tl,M. i .il? ,uoif,!(j,i ^/ui ^-A-^-in 
 
 But Mr. Ellice, who was very anxious to avail himself of it, found 
 so many difficulties in his way, that he was obliged to give it up ; 
 and one of the difficulties that he states is, the very large fine of 
 one- fifth of the value demanded by the Crown; — The original 
 claim of the Crown was one-fifth, but the Crown, in consi- 
 deration of the advantage which was expected to accrue from a 
 change of tenure, remitted that one-fifth or 20 per cent, for five 
 per cent. 
 
 Query 24. — Do you think it advisable, seeing the difficulties that 
 still exists, tor the Crown to contract its demands still more?-— If 
 the seigneur would contract his demands upon his sub-tenant at the 
 same time that the Crown contract its demands with respect to 
 himself, I might be disposed to answer that I think it would be 
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 fairness it is, that while the Crown on the one hand is to release 
 the seigneur, the seigneur is to maintain his full rights with respect 
 to his sub-tenant. It was considered at the time, by all the 
 information which could be obtained by Government, that a 
 much greater sacrifice was made by the Crown to the seigneur 
 than the seigneur made to his sub-tenant ; and it did not follow, 
 that supposing the Crown had remitted altogether its demand, 
 that that would have facilitated in any degree the conversion of the 
 tenure on the part of the seigneur with respect to his sub-tenant. 
 
 Query 25. — Do you think it advisable for the Crown still to 
 contract its demands in order to facilitate the improvement of the 
 colony by the change of tenure ? — If it were proved by presump* 
 tive evidence that the ettect of a contraction of the demands of 
 the Crown would be practically to effect the release of this sort of 
 property, in that case I should say that it would be worth while 
 for the Crown to make a sacrifice ; but it was considered that the 
 arrangement was as fair and equitable, and aa likely to produce 
 the effect, as any arrangement could be : it is impossible not to 
 perceive that if this change of tenure were to take place extea7 
 sively in the seigneuries, and the consequence of it were to be to 
 introduce the English law into those lands of which the tenure 
 was commuted, it would produce a great deal of confusion in 
 having property intermixed alternately as it were, and haviqg ,$k 
 
 different law applied to it. ^- ,j* ?-,- rf rnrlMW fif» nn "'^ 
 
 . .Query 26. —Do you think that any instructions could be given 
 to make this change of tenure more practicable ?r-*I certainly am 
 not aware that instructions could be given to make it more prac- 
 ticable. 
 
 Query 27. — Could the Act be so amended as to facilitate, the 
 exchange ? — I have only to repeat, that I consider that the advanr* 
 tage of this permission will only be taken by the English poB-« 
 sessors of property within the seigneuries ; and I do not imagine> 
 that any greater facilities can be given than what are now given 
 under the instnictions, as combined with the provisions of the Act. 
 
 Query. 2S. — Mr. Ellice mentioned that an English receiver is 
 appointed for the province, insufficient security being taken in 
 England; what regulations do you think may be applied ta 
 remedy this for the future ? — The appointment of the receiver 
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 detailed knowledge upon the subject, which would enable me to 
 give any specific suggestions upon it. At the same time, I 
 would observe that, in my opinion, it is expedient that the most 
 unqualified publicity should be given, both in the colonies and in 
 the mother country, to all pecuniary accounts, appropriations, 
 and matters of finance. If this principle be fairly acted upon, 
 it will, in my judgment, efiectually prevent for the future all 
 serious difficulty upon such subjects. 
 
 Query 29. — Mr. Ellice stated that the Governor of Lower 
 Canada has been instructed to remedy the difficulty arising from 
 the Assembly not voting supplies by his own warrants on the re- 
 ceiver, to whom the taxes are paid, under the provisions of the 
 Canada Trade Act ; have you any information to give the Com- 
 mittee upon that point? — ^The Governor did not receive instruc- 
 tions to appropriate any duties received under the Canada Trade 
 Act ; but under the emergency in which he has been not un- 
 frequently placed, from the total cessation of all supplies, to carry 
 on the government of the colony, he has drawn upon the unappro- 
 priated revenue, and such a proceeding is necessarily to be justified 
 only from the 'extreme difficulty and embarrassment of his situa- 
 tion ; the discretion which he has been compelled to exercise on 
 such occasions has received the sanction of the Secretaries of 
 State. 
 
 Query 30. — Will you huve the goodness to state to the Com- 
 mittee, the circumstances chat attended the introduction of the 
 Alien Bill ? — ^The object of the Upper Province, in desiring that 
 the Alien Bill should be passed, was for the purpose of enabling 
 aliens (in the strict sense of the term) to sit in the Legislature, aad 
 of quieting titles; no person could be legally entitled to the pos- 
 session of land who was not a natural born subject, or who had 
 not taken the oath of anep;iance, and there were a great many 
 persons who were not qualified under those restrictions. 8io-,fi> ; 
 
 Query 31. — Are you aware what proportion of the population 
 of Upper Canada were so situated ? A very considerable propor- 
 tion of the population of Upper Canada were subject to this 
 restriction ; and it was necessary to have an Act passed in this, 
 country, in the first instance, to give effect to any local Act that 
 might be passed in the province for remedying this inconvenience 
 respecting elections. J/.' v.^ ;••:;.;.;« .!.k .w.-. ^.^•j..^\:.Xi. ^\i':.t 
 
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 With respect td the provisions of the local Act, which the 
 Ij'eutenant-Governor in Upper Canada was direcied to have in- 
 troduced into the Assembly, its provisions were framed with the 
 anxious desire to produce a measure of entire conciliation ; and 
 with respect to the conduct of the Colonial Department, it is ne- 
 cessary to mention that these instructions, which Lord Bathurst 
 sent out to the colony for the passing of a local Bill, and which 
 excited dissatisfaction, were regulations which had received the ■ 
 approbation of a member of the Legislature, who was over in this ' 
 country more or less in the character of an agent for the province, ' 
 with respect to certain grievances complained of. When those ' 
 objections which were unexpectedly found to exist in the Legis- 
 lature were made known to the Colonial Department, Lord Oode- - 
 rich sent out for instructions, upon which a bill was brought in, ■ 
 which has finally settled the question. ^»^'^^" ^'''' ''«'' « '**'>^ r'^^df > 
 Query 32. — Were there any essential differences between the bill ' 
 as proposed by Lord Bathurst, and that which was proposed by ' 
 Lord Goderich, and accepted in Canada ? — Undoubtedly ; the 
 principal distinction was this, that by the bill suggested by Lord 
 Bathurst, all parties, however long they might have been resident, 
 were required to resort to the same means of establishing their 
 titles as those who were comparatively late residents ; and the 
 distinction taken by Lord Goderich was to put a limitation to the 
 time for which this was necessary, and to consider possession prior 
 to the year 1820 as itself constituting a title ; but I repeat that 
 it was not expected that any reclamation would have been made 
 by the province against the absence of such limitation, or against 
 the appointment of a registry, which was also made a subject of 
 complaint. 
 
 Query 33. — Do not you consider the Colonial Office as re- 
 sponsible for any line of policy long continued by any Governor 
 . of a colony ? — Undoubtedly ; in cases which can I^e characterized 
 as involving a line of policy." '"""""^''*'"^ ■♦"' ^'' V^f^t^m nvtmi) 
 Query 34. — With a view to judge what measures should be 
 adopted by the Government, is it not necessary that the Colonial 
 Office should be well aware of everything which passes between the 
 Assembly of the province and the Governor ? — It certainly is ; and 
 for that purpose the Journals of the Asser^bly are transmitted, 
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 to add ; but it does not follow that bills rejected by the Legislative 
 Council should necessarily be made matter of observation,' ''' 
 
 Query 3b. — Are the measures that have been talfen for disl'- 
 posing of the crown reserves such as in your opinion are likely W^* 
 effect the object that is desired? — I differ very much in opinlbH"' 
 from Mr. Ellice with respect to the course that has been taken b;^ ''' 
 the Government for disposing of the crown and clergy reserves to ' 
 the Canada Company ; he states that *' an attempt was made by '^ 
 the Government to dispose of all this property to the Can^d^^ 
 Company, but the church, always careful of iheir interest, did hot 
 approve of the price awarded by the commissioners, and Which was 
 in fact greatly exceeding its present value, and that chance of re- 
 moving part of that nuisance has passed away, and it is impos- 
 sible to avoid observing on the vacillating policy of the Colonial 
 Office, which did not insist upon the arrangement being carried 
 through." The principle upon which thos^ lands lyere disposed of 
 to the commissioners was a principle of general average, and the 
 church, who were bound to consult their own legal rights, com- 
 plained, as I consider justly, that whereas the clergy reserved 
 were the more valuable lands, the average that was taken upbii - 
 their lands necessarily gave per acre a less amount to them thaii 
 they would have done if the clergy reserves had been taken spe- 
 cially. 
 
 Query 36. — Is there any reason to believe that the clergy re- 
 serves are more valuable per acre than the crown reserves? — All 
 the reports that have been made to the Colonial Department go 
 to prove that the clergy reserves, which always have been liiost' 
 carefully selected, are in fact more valuable than the crown lahd^.'' 
 
 Query 37. — In the laying out of a township who has the se- 
 lection of the clergy reserves? — ^The Governor and Council! ti 
 is necessary to obser'e, that the seventh appropriated to the cletgy 
 is appropriated by a statute ; the seventh appropriated to il^i'^ 
 Crown is merely at tlie discretion of the Crown. ., ',' ' "'^ ^ " 
 
 Query 38. — In your opinion will the steps thatbaVe been Stalcen^ 
 to provide for the alienation of the clergy reserves be sufficient for 
 that purpose ? — ^The Committee are aware that a bill has paSse^ 
 enabling the Governor and Council in Upper Canada to sen 
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 is insufficient to effect the remedy which is so imperiously ehlled for, 
 because I think it would l>e extremely expedient to allow portions 
 of the clergy reserves to be sold for the purpose of giving value 
 to the remainder for the purpose of making roads, and performing 
 settlement duties, and preparing them for cultivation, and I am 
 of opinion that if those duties were done, and the clergy reserves 
 improved to a certain extent, there would be no difficulty in , 
 leasing them on long leases, so as to make them productive at a 
 much earlier period than might be expected. The proceeds of the 
 sale of those reserves, as directed by statute, are to be impounded, 
 and the rents and profits applied to such purposes as the Act of 
 the 31st Geo. 3 directed, whatever those directions may be ; but 
 I am alluding to an absolute alienation of part of those reserves,;) 
 for the purpose of applying the money for which those reserves 
 are sold towards the improvement of the remainder, thereby 
 making that remainder |a^^ey^uabll^,^hau the wh|d was pripr -. 
 to.such alienation., , .,,,,.,^ ^.■: ,-,<}>•; ■ -.U:-, ;:••; 'jufv/ '::- .-usiri^'»x^ 
 
 Query 39. — Is there anything in the Act of 1791 that appears ., 
 to contemplate the expenditure of a sum of money upon those' q 
 reserves for the purpose of improving them? — ^There does not (j 
 appear to be the slightest allusion to the necessity of capital being >; 
 laid put upon them before they could be made productive. Jt i^ 
 evident that the object of those who framed the Act of 1791, »« n 
 well as the regulation respecting the crown reserves, was founded .% 
 upon the expectation that civilization would surround thps^ waste ; 
 lands, and give value to them in consequence of that circumstance^ ii 
 whereas the actual effect has been, that the existence of those {li 
 reserves has prevented that very civilization from taking place, i <, 
 
 Query 40. — It appears that out of the crown lands granted to the v $ 
 Canada Company, a reservation of 750/. a-year has been awarded .; 
 for the Scotch Church, with what view was that award made? — Itu^ 
 was considered highlyexpedient that the Scotch Church should have ;q 
 a provision, and whatever might be the adjudication with respect u 
 to the clergy reser\'es,it was quite evident that even if the principle ofuri 
 dividing the profits of those reserves between the two churches had ' ■ 
 been adopted, it would have yielded only 200/. per annum to the 
 Scotch Church, which would be insufficient to meet the demands 
 for their pastors, and consequently the Secretary of State recom- . ; 
 
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 mended the appropriation of a part of the proceeds of the payments 
 of the Canada Company to the payment of the Scotch clergy. '^"^ 
 
 Query 41. — How long is that 750/. to be continued to thelPres- 
 byterian Church ? — ^The 750/. is necessarily at pleasure ; but it is 
 to continue as long as ;.>ie payments are made from the Canada 
 Company, which involved a period of 15 years absolutely, and a 
 probability of a much longer period. Mr. EUice observes, that ' 
 ** the clergy reserves are either kept in a state of wilderness, no 
 person being liable for road duties through them, and the indus- ' 
 trious settler being exposed to all the inconvenience of large tracts 
 of forest intervening between his settlement and a market, or 
 persons have occupied the more improved and accessible parts of 
 them without title." I am of opinion that much of this inconve- 
 nience, if not all, would be removed by the principle of alienating 
 a portion of the clergy reserves, for the purpose of applying the 
 proceeds of them for the formation of roads ; and in the general' 
 execution of what are called settlement duties ; and that the effect 
 of this would be, not only to improve the general condition of the 
 province, but to make, as I have already observed, the remaining 
 part of those reserves immeasurably more valuable than they are 
 in their present state. "" ■■"^[ -" "'"■ i----'-f-f^'- ■''■> "' "' '' ^:^i;s'^ 
 
 Query 42. — ^What has been the method ofdispbsingdf ihe crowii ' 
 reserves in all those districts ? — It is perhaps unnecessary to remark ^ 
 that the Grown, having the undisputed appropriation of the six- ^' 
 sevenths, after the substraction of one-seventh for the purposes of 
 the clergy, there could be no motive in separating one*seventh'' 
 from the remainder, except a motive founded upon the expectation ^' 
 already adverted to, that some peculiar value was to attach to this ' 
 reservation. In con^ equence of the settlement of the surrounding ,, 
 country, ond the quantity of ungranted land in Upper Canada 
 having bien so great, it has never been necessary for the pur- 
 pose of satisfying the demands of settlers to appropriate those 
 crown reserves; and therefore they have remained Upon the 
 same principle as the clergy reserves, practical nuisances in t)iie 
 province. 
 
 Query 43. — Has the attention you have paid to this subject ledf 
 you to doubt of the policy of providing for the religious wants of the 
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 derived from the appropriation of any portion of the soil ?— In 
 answering that question, I would beg to draw a distinction be- 
 tween glebe appropriated for the actual use of a clergyman and 
 large masses of land set aside to provide a revenue for the church ; 
 I think the first is in the highest degree expedient ; I think the 
 other necessarily presents practical difficulties, which it would be 
 very desirable to remove ; and it appears to me that the practical 
 remedy in the present instance is to appropri'^e glebe land, when 
 circumstances require it, for the use of clc. len of the Church 
 of England; and with respect to the general revenues of the 
 church, toappl_, the proceeds of the sale of those revenues as they 
 are progressively released from mortmain. I would wish to ex- 
 plain, that when I allude to appropriating glebe specifically to 
 a clergyman of the Church of England, I do not mean necesnariiy 
 out of any lands reserved by the Act of 1791, but out of lands at 
 the disposal of the Crown, if such were more conveniently situated, 
 which could be exchanged for lands so reserved. 
 
 Query 44. — From the opportunities you have had of ascertaining 
 ihe feelings and opinions of the people of Canada ou this subject, 
 should you not be disposed to say that Government and the 
 Legislature of England should be very cautious of doing any 
 thing which could give rise to the slightest suspicion that there 
 was any intention of establishing a dominant church in that 
 country? — The Act of 31 Geo. 8, c. 31, clause 39, established 
 the clergy reserves, that is, directed that one-seventh part of the 
 grants of land should be allotted and appropriated for the support 
 and maintenance of a Protestant clergy within the colonies ; and 
 it is stated that this is done for the purpose of making the best 
 arrangement, with a view to the due and sufficient support and 
 maintenance of a Protestant clergy within the said provinces. 
 The 37th clause enacts, " that all and every the rents, profits, or 
 emoluments which may at any time arise from such laud so allotted 
 and appropriated shall be applicable solely to the maintenance and 
 support of a Protestant clergy, and to no other use and purpose." 
 Up to this point therefore no reference is made to an endowed 
 church ; but the 38th clause proceeds to enact, *' that it should be 
 lawful for His Majesty, &c. &c. to constitute and direct within 
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 formed, constituted or erected within either of the provinces of 
 Lower or Upper Canada, one or more parsonage or rectory, or 
 parsonages or rectories according to the establishment of the 
 Church of England, and from time to time, by an instrument 
 under the Great Seal of such province, to endow every such 
 parsonage or rectory with so much or such part of the lands," &c. 
 meaning the clergy reserves, as it mig;ht be judged to be expedient 
 under the then existing circumstances of such township or parish 
 then to appropriate. The next clanse attaches the same terms 
 and conditions to those parsonages or rectories, and the same 
 performance of duties, as are incident to a parsonage or rectory 
 in England. The next clause places them under the jurisdiction 
 of the bishop. The 41st clause gives a power, and a most im- 
 portant one, to the local legislature, of varying or repealing 
 several provisions there recited in any Act or Acts which, being 
 passed by the two Assemblies, should receive the consent of the 
 Crown. In answer therefore to the inquiry, whether I should 
 not be disposed to recommend caution, lest any suspicion should 
 arise that there was an intention of establishing a dominant 
 church in that colony, I beg leave to be permitted to make the 
 following observations : It is perfectly clear to me, that the framers 
 of that Act entertained the erroneous impression that this system 
 of reserved lands would, in a short time, comparatively speaking, 
 produce a fund which might be generally applicable for the pur- 
 poses of furnishing income to the clergy of the Establislied 
 Church, whether of England or of Scotland, as I conceive the 
 words ** Protestant Clergy" to refer to clergy of the two recog- 
 nized establishments ; and it appears to me, from the construction 
 of those clauses, that a special endowment of land, in cases where 
 there was a demand, for the Church of England was provided 
 for, whereas there was no such provision made for the Scotch 
 Church ; I consequently consider that I am justified in inferring 
 that the Church of England was intended to be so far a dominant 
 church as to have the advantage of lands specifically appropriated 
 for its maintenance, as contradistinguished from the Scotch 
 Church, which wns to have such proportion of the profits, rents 
 and emoluments of those reserves as, under the discretion of the 
 Executive Government, it might be expedient to allot to them. 
 
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 But it appears to me quite conclusive, that there was no intention 
 of necessarily establishing the Church of England as a dominant 
 church, inasmuch as the 4ist clause gives a power to the local 
 legislatures, with the consent of the Crown, of altering all the 
 provisions which are contained in the 36th, 87th, S8th, 39th, and 
 40th clauses. 
 
 Query a. — Would the measures you have suggested go to affect 
 the appropriation of the clergy lands when they become improved, 
 according to your plan ? — If the Committee will allow me to re- 
 state my suggestion^ it is this: that for the purpose of relieving 
 the province from the practical inconvenience of those |)ortions of 
 reserves which impede the general cultivation and civilization of 
 the province, I propose that part of them should be alienated for 
 the purpose of making roads, in preparing them for cultivation, 
 and for settlement. At present there is no power under any Act 
 of effecting this purpose, inasmuch as the law only allows of their 
 being sold, and the proceeds of such sale being impounded for 
 future appropriation,, If those reserves were to be retained fur 
 any very extended period, there can be no doubt that ultimately, 
 after the lapse perhaps almost of centuries, they would acquire 
 very great value; but if they ure sold at an early period, it 
 appears to me that the money for which they may sell may 
 legitimately be applied for the purposes contemplated under the 
 Canada Act, namely, the support of a Protestant clerify, including 
 under that term the clergy of the Established Church ; and I do 
 not perceive what detriment can possibly accnie to the colony 
 (provided those lands are progressively released from mortmain) 
 in consequence of the in )rest of the money for which they may 
 be sold being applied for that purpose. I should propose that all 
 the better portion of the clergy reserves, which have already 
 acquired a value from their proximity to cultivated lands, shoui I 
 be first subjected to sale, and so on till the whole are disposed of. 
 Me. Ellice states, in his evidence with regard to these reserves, 
 that there is no hope of their being sold to the extent of 100,000 
 acres annually, or even of 25,000 acres being so sold. He adds, 
 "They do nothing to encourage settlers ; they neither make 
 roads, build mills, nor lay out one shilling of capital.*' Now I 
 propose to remedy those defects, by allowing the absolute aliena- 
 
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 tion of part of thoie rery reserves for the purpose of makrn)^ 
 thoNe very improvements. 
 
 Query 46. — What has been the object of limiting the quantity 
 of cler^^y reserves that can be sold in one year ? — From the sup- 
 position that there would be no deiiiand tor their sale beyond that 
 amount, considering the quantity of land that the Canada Com- 
 pany has to dinpose of, and the mass of land that is ungranted. 
 
 Query 47.— Would not that state of things make the limitation 
 unnecessary ?— -The reason is this : if it were not limited, 500,000 
 acres might be brought into the market and sold for nothing, and 
 therefore it was to prevent the reserves being hastily and improvi- 
 dently brought into the market that limitation was made ; but if 
 there was any chance of effecting a sale of those reserves at an 
 earlier period, I should consider the limitation as most impolitio. 
 I Query 48. — ^The Committee have been informed that the esta« 
 blishmentofthe University of Upper Canada, from the government 
 of which all denominations of Protestants, except those that belong 
 to the Church of England, have been excluded, has materially 
 tended to increase the jealousy that already existed in Upper 
 Canada with regard to the Church of England ; can you inform 
 the Committee under what instructions that University was so 
 founded? — I*, was founded by a charter under the Great Seal, 
 and it relieved the students from an obligation to subscribe to the 
 Thirty-nine Articles, which had been an obligation imposed by 
 the constitution of the other North American provinces. 
 
 Query 49. — In what way is it endowed ? — It is endowed with 
 land, and an appropriation made to it from the proceeds of the 
 Crown reserves sold to the Canada Company. j '.^jn-my'^^wyj lu 
 
 Query 50.-~Has not the Council the appointment of the pro-* 
 fessors? — Undoubtedly. 
 
 Qu^ry 31. —Are not all the members of the Council required iti^ 
 be members of the Church of England? — Yes. ' i^ • -i 
 
 Query 52. — Have the Crown reserves been effectually disposed 
 of, so as to prevent the inconvenience continuing which has arisen 
 from them ? — All the Crown reserves in Upper Canada have been 
 disposed of to the Canada Company, with the exception of those 
 in new townships which have been laid out since the 1st of Marcb, 
 1824. >sU •,"«if.';):!d .'il ,r l-j'ihib it-Mi -iii-Min oJ ;iiu>{0'iq 
 
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 of!/j Query 53.— On what footing do they stand in Lower Canada ? 
 — They still remain unsettled ; in fact, the quantity of land that 
 is settled in so much less in the Lower than in the Upper Province, 
 that there is a much smaller proportion of Crown reserves in the 
 one than in the other. But nothing in my opinion can be more 
 impolitic than to make any distinction in the six-sevenths that 
 belong to the Crown. I consider the principle of reservation 
 of a seventh for the Crown to be an erroneous one, as the first 
 object should be the entire settlement of particular districts, 
 rather than a partial and lyeneral settlement. 
 
 Query .54. — Will you inform the Committee of the sums that 
 have been paid by the Canada Company, and their appropriation ? 
 — The sum which the Canada Land Company is actually bound to 
 pay in sixteen years in annual instalments amounts to 301,367/. 
 sterling. They are compelled to lay out on the improvement of a 
 block of a million of acres, given in lieu of the clergy reserves, 
 a sum amounting to 43,000Z. On the 1st of July, 1826, the first 
 payment commenced of 20,000/. ; that payment exceeded some of 
 the subsequent years, in order to cover the expenses of the arrange- 
 ment. In 1827, 15,000/. ; in 1828, 15.000/. ; in 1829, 15,000/. ; 
 in 1830, 16,000/.; in 1831, 17,000/.; in 1832, 18,000/. ; in 
 1933, 19,000/. ; in 1834, 20,000/. ; and 20,000/. every succeed- 
 ing year to the end of the term, it being at the option of the 
 Company to increase the annuity payment as it may seem fit, it 
 be.iig provided, that in the last year the account shall be com- 
 pletely settled, that is on the 1st of June, 1834. The appropria- 
 '' tlon which the Secretary of State recommended to the Lords of 
 the Treasury is as follows : first, the sum of 8500/. per annum 
 for the civil establishment of Upper Canada, which till that year 
 ''had formed an item in the estimate annually voted by Parlia- 
 ^ ment; secondly, 1000/. as an annual grant towards the building 
 of a college for the province; thirdly,- the sum of 400/. as an 
 ' annual salary to the Roman Catholic Bishop resident in that 
 ''colony ; fourthly, the sum of 750/. as an annual provision for the 
 Roman Catholic Priests in that province ; fifthly, the sum of 
 '^'750/. as an annual provision for the Presbyterian Ministers in 
 "connexion with the Church of Scotland, having stated congrega- 
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 Colonel Talbot, as a reward for the services of that officer, and 
 the sacrifices he had made in settling the London and Western 
 districts ; the sum of 2566/. as an annual compensation for the 
 period of seven years to those officers of the land-granting depart- 
 ment in Upper Canada, who by the adoption of the new regula- 
 tions for granting lands are deprived of their eaioluments. The 
 sum total of those appropriations amounts to 14,766/., which 
 leaves an unappropriated balance of 733/. per annum. 
 
 Query 55. — Mr. EUice has stated that there was no occasion for 
 the Government applying this money to the payment of the civil 
 list in Upper Canada, as the ordinary revenue received on the 
 trade of Canada is perfectly adequate, or might be made perfectly 
 adequate, to the discharge of the civil lists of both provinces ; do 
 you concur in that opinion? — I am at a loss to understand upon 
 what data Mr. Ellice gives that opinion. I believe nothing can 
 exceed the economy with which the Legislature of Upper Canada 
 dispenses the finances under their control ; and I know no fund 
 from which the payment of the 8000/. annually voted by Parlia- 
 ment could be forthcoming. u) ■•Ayi', i- , j'>: ni ..t ,, ',- .i 
 
 Query 56. — How is the clergy corporation appointed ? — The 
 clergy corporation was established at the recommendation of the 
 Governor and Executive Council, and appointed by instructions 
 sent out to the Governor of Canada to appoint a Committee of the 
 clergy, of which the bishop should be at the head, for the purpose 
 of considering the most productive mode of dealing with the lands 
 set apart for the clergy, under the 31st of the King, such disposi- 
 tion being necessarily limited to leasing, as there is no power of 
 alienation under the Act. 
 
 Query 57. — By what instrument has that corporation been ap- 
 pointed ? — Siich an appointment would be made under the great 
 seal of the province, under instructions from the Government 
 at home. 
 
 Query 58. — Is there a copy of that instrument in the Colonial 
 Office? — I believe not, the instrument having been prepared in 
 the colony. 
 
 Query 59. — Is there in the Colonial Office any copy of the 
 instructions which directed the Governor to issue such an in- 
 strument? — There is. , .... 
 
 Query 60. — You are aware that Mr. Ellice has stated his 
 
 
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 opinion that blame onght not to be imputed to any persons con- 
 nected with the Executive Government in either province, but 
 that the dissensions in Canada were the inevitable consequences 
 of a determination on the part of the Government at home to per- 
 severe in a wrong system ? — I find great difficulty in reconciling 
 Mr. Ellice's evidence on this point. He states that the great ob- 
 ject- of the Assembly of Lower Canada is to retain their separate 
 institutions, their laws, their church, and their condition as dis- 
 tinct from the people of America, and that though much may be 
 done by mutual concession, all their objects can only be effected 
 at the expense of the interests of the English population, and by 
 the retardment of all improvement in the country. The Com- 
 mittee are aware that this is precisely the language which is 
 maintained in the petitions from the townships, which have been 
 presented to Parliament, and especially in those which are laid 
 before this Committee, from the townships to the Governor- 
 General in the year subsequent to tlie proposition of the Union. 
 Those petitions distinctly express the gratitude of the petitioners 
 to the Legislative Council, for having resisted the attempt of the 
 Assembly to prejudice the English population and to retard im- 
 provement. Whereas the Legislative Council is complained of, 
 on the part of the French Canadians, as being the main source 
 of all the dissensions existing in the province. Mr. Neilson em- 
 ploys these words : " The laws that are conceived by the people 
 io be necessary for the common welfare are rejected by the Legis- 
 lative Council, that being chiefly composed of persons who are 
 dependent on the Executive Government of the province." The 
 object of the opposition of the Legislative Council to the mea- 
 sures of the Assembly, if Mr. Ellice's view of the purposes of 
 that Assembly be correct, is to maintain the interest of the Eng- 
 lish popul-ttion, and to prevent that retardation of the improve- 
 ment Of the country which Mr. Ellice states the French Cana- 
 dians to contemplate. I would wish to show that the opinion of 
 the English population is such as I describe, by reference to the 
 following paragraph, which appears in the petiti(m to the House 
 of Commons from the townships: — " That while your petitioners 
 waited patiently the effect of their repeated solicitations for re- 
 dress of grievances, to be administered by the Provincial Legis- 
 lature, the Legislative Council, in the session of the year 182.5, 
 
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 by recommendation of his Excellency the Governor-in-Chief, 
 passed a bill of the most salutary description, introducing into 
 those townships the English law of dower and conveyance, and 
 making incumbrances special, establishing also public offices 
 tlierein for the enregistration of all mutations of real property, 
 and of all mortgages on the same ; that though this bill, care- 
 fully abstaining from every unnecessary innovation, neither dis- 
 turbed the routine nor touched the customs of the French Cana- 
 dians in the seigneuries, the House of Assembly, evincing its 
 characteristic disregard for the claims of your petitioners, neglected 
 to proceed upon the same bill when sent down for concurrence," 
 &c. And Mr. Robert Gillespie, one of the witnesses before this 
 Committee, being asked in what manner the dissensions betwcp'o 
 the different branches of the Legislature obstructed the operation 
 of commerce and the improvement of the Canadas, answers in 
 these words : *' By preventing the enactment of laws necessary 
 for the security of trade, there is no such thing as knowing at 
 present when real property is mortgaged or not;" and soon. 
 On the other hand, Mr. Neilson states, " that no change which 
 will be for the general good of the country will be resisted by the 
 Assembly, for the Assembly are the true representatives of the 
 peopl«f, and must do what will be for the good of the people ; if 
 they do aot, they had better go home and mind their own busi- 
 ness." Tme Committee cannot fail to observe that the question 
 turns upon, whether the good of the people is to be promoted by 
 approximating their institutions towards the Etiglish system, or 
 by not only maintaining the French institutions in their present 
 integrality, but by extending it over all that portion of the Lower 
 Provitice which is inhabited by an English population. This is 
 the real key to the dissensions which have existed in that pro- 
 vince, and which I consider to have grown out of the short- 
 sighted legislation of 1791 ; in proof of this I would remind the 
 Committee that Mr.Viger adverts in his evidence to the improved 
 condition of Lower Canada, which would have taken place if a 
 proper system of conduct had been followed with regard to the 
 Canadians. This question is then put to him : " When you say 
 a proper system, do" you mean if the French system and the 
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 answers: " So far as this, that they should have continued to let 
 the French law prevail all over the country." In point of fact, 
 nothing can be more discrepant than the views which are enter- 
 tained by the agents for the French population of Lower Canada 
 with respect to the functions and duties of this Legislative Coun- 
 cil, which one party supposes to be the source, and the other the 
 prevention of all mischief Mr. Neilson says, " that an indepen- 
 dent Legislative Council would give to Canada something like a 
 British Constitution, in that case there would be a body that 
 would have a weight in the opinion of the country when the 
 Governor and the Assembly were at variance, and on whichever 
 side they declared they would incline the balance;" whereas Mr. 
 Viger is asked, " Is it not the wish of the Canadians to change 
 the structure of the Legislative Council, and to take measures for 
 ensuring its formati' ^ in such a way as to make it likely that it 
 would agree with the gislative Assembly ?" He answers, " I 
 am sure we must wisti that the Legislative Council should be 
 composed of men who would side with the mass of the people." 
 
 Query 6L — Mr. Neilson states that in Nova Scotia, where things 
 go on very well, the revenue depends upon an annual vote of the 
 Legislature, so that not only the appropriation of the money, but 
 the very collecting of the money is dependent upon an annual 
 vote of the Legislature, and there the Government and the 
 Assembly go on very well in concert ; can you inform the Com- 
 mittee whether that is correctly stated? — Mr. Neilson totally 
 omits to state that the civil list is voted by the British Parlia- 
 ment, and that consequently the same cause of collision does not 
 exist there which exists in Lower Canada. It is unnecessary for 
 me to explain to the Committee that this is the case in all our 
 North American provinces, with the exception of Upper Canada, 
 the expenses of whose civil list however are defrayed from pro- 
 ceeds of funds belonging to the Crown, and are not dependent 
 on a vote of the local Legislature. 
 
 Query 62. — You have heard much observation from the wit- 
 nesses respecting the constitution of the Legislative Ccnmcil; have 
 you any remarks to offer to the Committee on that subject ? — Here 
 a^in ( would call the attention of the Committee to the different 
 evidence which is received on such points ; Mr. M'Gillivray states. 
 
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 that those who are opposed to the measures of Government com- 
 plain of the Legislative Council, who generally have sided with 
 the Governor when there has been any question in difference be- 
 tween them ; but he adds, " I have not heard of any complaint 
 of the composition of the Council ; where there are parties, 
 however, there will always be complaints." I have no he- 
 sitation in expressing my concurrence in the abstract opinions 
 respecting the composition of the Legislative Council which have 
 transpired during this inquiry, but I doubt extremely whether, 
 under the circumstances of Lower Canada, it is possible to bring 
 this Legislative Council to that state of theoretical perfection 
 which is looked for by some members uf the Committee ; at the 
 same time, with respect to this Council, as well as to all other 
 points where an improved system can be applied, it is necessarily 
 the duty of Government so to apply it. 
 
 Query 63.^ — You are aware that Mr. Neilson has given evidence 
 respecting the dismissal of militia officers by Lord Dalhousie ; have 
 you any information to give to the Committee on that point? — 
 The following general orHers, which were issued at two different 
 periods by Lord Dalhousie's directions, will explain the grounds 
 which his Lordship assigned for the measure in question. The 
 Committee will perceive, from the general tenor of those orders, 
 that it was for conduct connected with their duty as milit a officers' 
 that his Lordship was mainly induced to dismiss the individuals 
 in question. "Office of the Adjutant-General of Quebec. — 
 Quebec. ^2th of September 1827.— General Order of Militia. — 
 His Excellency the Governor and Commander-in-Chief takes an^ 
 early opportunity to express to '.he battalions of militia in Lower 
 Canada his sentiments on certain recent proceedings which nearly 
 concern their loyalty and honour. It is well known thut the laws' 
 under which the militia force has been regulated for many years' 
 have been enacted for short periods, and have been repeatedly 
 renewed as a substitute for the permanent laws passed in 1787 
 and 1789. Those temporary Acts, however, not having been 
 renewed in the last session of the Provincial Parliament, expired 
 on the Ist of May ; and it was immediately notified to the militia- 
 by His Excellency's directions, that under the existing circum- 
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 posed persons were not wanting to spread doubts on the subject, 
 and to those were added gross misrepresentations and calumnies 
 regarding the intentions of the Executive Government, all tend- 
 ing to create discontent and dissatisfaction in the province, but 
 more particularly to induce the militia to object against and dis* 
 obey the orders issued under those ordinances for the usual 
 musters in summer. The Governor-in-Chief has seen with great 
 satisfaction that the utmost exertions of the ill-disposed have 
 totally failed to disturb the national disposition of the people to 
 order and obedience, with very few exceptions, and thrse chiefly 
 of officers holding commissions. The musters of July and August 
 have been unusually numerous and well attended. It is therefore 
 an important and a most agreeable duty to his Excellency to 
 offer his warmest acknowledgments in approbation of that con- 
 duct by which the battalions of militia have shown their loyalty 
 and proper sense of duty ; but while the Governor-in-Chief thus 
 gives the reward of praise where it is so well merited, he feels that 
 his duty imperiously calls upon him at this time to deprive of the 
 distinction of holding commissions in the militia all such persons 
 as have neglected to attend at the musters required by law, or 
 who by their conduct or language at public meetings ha,ve failed 
 in that respect which is due to the representative of their Sove- 
 reign. This however, is a work of time and investigation, which, 
 though necessarily attended with some delay, will not fail to re- 
 ceive his Excellency s serious and deliberate consideration. By 
 order of His Excellency the Governor-General and Commander- 
 in-Chief, F. Vassel de Monoel, Adjutant General M. P." 
 
 The other order is as follows : " Office of Adjutant General of 
 Militia, 12th Detember 1827.— General Order of Militia.— The 
 Governor-in-Chief having for some time past occupied himself in 
 considering reports of reviews lay officers commanding battalions 
 of militia, lias great satisfaction in again expre3^:ing his approba- 
 tion of the general disposition an(^ orderly conduct of this great 
 national force. The reviews have been fully attended, and there 
 are but few instances in which the Govcrnor-in-Chief would think 
 it at all necessary to express censure; his Excellency ttiererore 
 conveys to all, and to e&ch battalion, his thanks for their conduct, 
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 only disagreeable part of duty which remains for him to perform, 
 that is, to publish the names of those officers who can offer no 
 sufficient apology for their neglect of duty and absence from 
 muster." 
 
 I have only further to explain that Lord Dalhousie states that 
 His Majesty's Attorney-General in the province of Lower Canada 
 gave an opinion that the old ordinances of 1787 or 1789 had re- 
 vived, and certain militia officers having impeached Lord Dal- 
 housie's consequent judgment upon this occasion, founded, as it 
 was, upon the opinion of the Attorney-General, not only refused 
 to attend the summer musters, but otherwise exhibited a spirit 
 of disobedience to orders; in consequence of which Lord Dal- 
 housie dismissed those persons, the circumstances of whose con- 
 duct and situation made such an example necessary ; and on the 
 grounds stated his lordship's conduct received the sanction of the 
 Secretary of State. > > '' <'2 ai (' ''Wn^^ '>.^hv»^ .n van^t^i rui e^^^-j^ 
 
 Query 64. — Mr. Cuvillier in his evidence states, that Loru Dor- 
 chester, in his Message to the Legislature in 1794, in the name of 
 the King, gave the casual and territorial revenues to the province 
 of Lower Canada, towards the support of its civil government ; hence, 
 he says, the control which the Assembly has over those revenues. 
 It is in consequence of this gift on the part of His Majesty to the 
 province, for the public uses thereof, that the Legislature has a 
 right to appropriate them. He is then asked, " In what form 
 Was that gift made?" and he answers, " By message." Again 
 he is asked. " Did that message of Lord Dorchester say that the 
 King would appropriate those revenues for the use of the pro- 
 vince, or that he made them over to the Legislature, to be appro- 
 priated by them for the use of the province ?" he answers, " That 
 he doBi I'.t recollect the precise words of the message, but that 
 he does recollect that the casual and territorial revenue was given 
 to the province in aid of its civil government." Can you supply 
 the Committee with any decided information upon this point f — 
 It appears in the Journcls of the House of Asseinbly of the 29th 
 of April, 1794, that " a message from his Excellency the Governor, 
 signed by his Excellency, was presented to Mr. Speaker, which 
 message was read in English and repeated in French, all the 
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 loweth : — Dorchester, CSovernor. — Tbfi Governor hcs given di- 
 . rections for laying l^efore the House of Assembly aa account of 
 the provincial revenue of the Crown, from the commencement of 
 the new constitution to the 10th of January, 1794 : first, the 
 casual and territorial revenue, as established prior to the conquest, 
 which His Majesty has been most graciously pleased to order to 
 be applied towards defraying the civil expenses of the province." 
 The Committee will not hesitate to admit that an expression, on 
 the part of the Crown, that orders have been graciously given to 
 apply the territorial revenue towards defraying the civil expenses 
 of ^he province, cannot, in reason or in justice, be considered to 
 be ^ gift jto the Legislature, by which the Legislature obtains the 
 right of appropriation. I would beg leave to lay before the 
 Committee, in illustration of this distinction between applying the 
 local revenues at the discretion and under the sanction of Ilis 
 Majesty's Government for the benefit of the Colonies, and the 
 surrendering them to the colonies for their absolute appropriation, 
 by the following letter, which was addressed by Lord Bathurst, 
 as a circular letter to the colonies having local legislatures, on the 
 6th of October, 1825, and which appears to me to express most 
 clearly the reasons why an annual vote of the Civil List is less 
 "preferable to a more permanent arrangement. " Downing-street, 
 8th October, 1823. — Sir, — You are aware that in all discussions 
 which of late years have taken place in Parliament on the subject 
 of the Colonial Estimates, it has been objected that the North 
 American colonies ought to take upon themselves those permanent 
 and necessary expenses of their civil government which have 
 hitherto been charged upon the revenues of this country. 1 have 
 always felt unwilling to enter upon this subject until the period 
 should arrive when, from the growing prosperity of those colonies, 
 and from the condition which they had, in fact, attained with 
 respect to their population and resources, I could press it with 
 the conviction that the proposition was not only one which ought 
 to be entertained by the Legislature, but one which would be met 
 by a most anxious disposition to comply with the wishes of Go- 
 vernment. I also deferred pressing this point until Parliament 
 has actually removed those restrictions to which the commerce of 
 the colonies had hitherto been subject ; because, though it might 
 
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 nut have appeared unreasonable to have made the extension of a 
 policy so liberal towards the colonists, in some measure dependent 
 upon their assuming upon a just footing the charges of their oWn 
 Government, yet I felt it a more pleasing course (and one which 
 I trusted would be found not less effectual,) to rely rather upon 
 the disposition of His Majesty's subjecti^ in the colonies to evince 
 a just sense of these advantages after they should have been con- 
 ferred upon the-n, than to have attempted to induce them to a 
 compliance with the proposition by any promise of consequent 
 concession and advantage. By the measures which Parliament 
 has recently adopted the restrictions I have referred to are re- 
 moved, and the colonies now enjoy, under the protection of His 
 Majesty, the same freedom of trade with the parent state and 
 with foreign countries as if they constituted, in fact, integral parts 
 of the United Kingdoms. Such a state of things, it is confi- 
 dently hoped, cannot fail to produce an increase of prosperity 
 that will either enable the colonists to bear the charge of the Civil 
 Government without necessity for imposing additional taxes, or 
 will make the increased taxes, which it may be necessary for a 
 time to provide, less burdensome than those which they are now 
 obliged to sustain. I have had frequent occasion to regret the 
 inconvenient consequences which have arisen in some of His 
 Majesty's colonies, from the practice of providing by an annual 
 vote for those charges of the Civil Government which are in their 
 nature permanent, and which therefore ought not, consistently 
 with those principles of the constitution common both to the 
 United Kingdom and to the colonies, to be classed with those 
 contingencies of the public service which, being necessarily 
 fluctuating, may be fitly provided for as the occasion appears to 
 demand. In point of fact, the necessity of an annual vote for 
 the maintenance of a fixed and permanent establishment is only 
 calculated to embarrass the public service, and to disturb the 
 harmony which ought to exist among the different branches of 
 the Legislature ; it even tends to impair that confidence between 
 the Government and the inhabitants of a colony, which is equally 
 necessary to the just support of the former and to the happiness 
 and prosperity of the latter. In the practical execution of this 
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 observe, that it is nut intended that the provincial revenues should 
 be charged with any excess beyond the long-established and 
 ordinary charges, unless a further increase should by them be 
 deemed expedient. The chains of which the present estimate 
 consists being all strictly of a permanent description, I should 
 propose that the Act, whicd will be necessary to make provision 
 for their assumption by the colony, should continue in operation 
 for the space of ten years. The cordial adoption of this propo- 
 sition on the part of the Legislature cannot fail to draw still 
 closer the ties which so happily .:..ibsist between the mother 
 country and her dependencies, and to induce a favourable dispo- 
 sition on her part to apply her capital for colonial purposes. 
 And when it is considered how heavy an expenditure is neces- 
 sarily incurred by Great Britain in the military defences of her 
 colonies, it would seem unreasonable, under present circum- 
 stances, to question the readiness of the latter to provide in a 
 proper manner for the necessary charge of their civil government. 
 You will explain in the fullest manner to the Legislature, in the 
 course of the next session, the expectations of His Majesty's 
 Government upon this subject, and you will at the same time 
 inform them, that whatever funds may be raised or received 
 within the province, such funds not being under the control of 
 the Legislature, will be appropriated for the benefit of the pro- 
 vince, at the discretion and under the sanction of His Majesty's 
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 EXTRACTS from the Evidence of Edward Ellice, Esq., 
 before the Select Committee on the Civil Government of 
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 Wkre not the boundaries of Upper and Lower Cauada settled in 
 consequence ot the provisions of the Act of 1791 ? — ^Ihey were. 
 
 In your opinion, has the boundary line between the two pro- 
 vinces been drawn conveniently t.,i the tw(» provinces ; or is the 
 division so ur ranged as to give r-'^ to very conflicting interests 
 and separate reelings between tli. > ? — ^The division altogether 
 was most untV unate, and has comp.<t:tely verihed the predictions 
 of its consequences, made at the time by the agent of Canada, 
 and by all the witnesses examined at the uar wf the House. 
 The result, so far, of maintaining distincti'^ns between two 
 classes of subjects, has produceu no proof of its policy. As to 
 the particular boundary or divisioi> of territory, that is very im- 
 material, and I do not believe you could satsfy either party in 
 the general questions now under discussion l'^ any alteration in 
 that respect. 
 
 In point of fact, has not a very strong collision of feeling, and 
 
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 the two provinces?— -T'-.r greatest possible collision of interest 
 has arisen on the subj ':;v ' 'f the revenue ; and unfortunately there 
 is every reason to apprehend it is only now at its beginning. 
 
 Will you be so good as to state the principal grounds of dif- 
 ference that exist between the two provinces? — ^The principal 
 ground is, the pretension set up by the French Legislature at 
 Quebec to regulate the trade of the St. Lawrence, and to levy all 
 duties upon the exportation or importation of commodities either 
 going from or to every part of Cunada, without consulting the 
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 inhabitants. This grievance will of course be more deeply felt 
 as the hitherto rapid settlement of Upper Canada, encouraged 
 by more liberal institutions, and ?. better state of law, pro- 
 gressively advances. The French population of the Lower Pro- 
 vince have not increased or improved their condition in any 
 respect in proportion to that of the English population either in 
 Upper or in Lower Canada, nor is there any reason to believe 
 that their numbers or their interest in the country will in future 
 increase in proportion to the increase that must take place in 
 both colonies in British inhabitants and British capital. As the 
 British interest increases in either province, a community of 
 feeling will necessarily lead to their closer connection together ; 
 and I am afraid, if even it was the determination of Parliament 
 to maintain the ascendancy of one class of the population of 
 Lower Canada, and their exclusive powe/s over the taxation and 
 commerce of the country, the British inhabitants of both Pro- 
 vinces would, at no distant time, look to some other means of 
 relieving themselves from so intolerable a grievance. « * « 
 If one rate of customs' duties must be collected in the revenue, 
 and one mass of revenue is collected, and no fair or equitable 
 division is made between the two provinces, does it not 
 necessarily follow that there must be one expenditure ? — That 
 I take to be one of the most difficult points of this case. Sup- 
 posing any idea to be entertained of re-uniting those provinces, 
 I have always thought the more prudent course to adopt, and 
 one which the paramount object of preventing at first any colli- 
 sion in the united Legislature on the heretofore separate interests 
 of the parties would justify, would be to fix the present revenue, 
 and apply such part of it, for a certain number of years, as would 
 be necessary to defray the charges of the existing civil lists in 
 
 'both provinces. 
 
 How could that object be effected ? — By adequate provisions 
 in a bill for uniting the Legislatures, specifying in the schedule 
 
 'to the bill, in minute detail, the different charges to be defrayed, 
 in such manner so that there should be no ground for suspicion 
 
 that it was intended either to increase the charge or to give the 
 
 i executive authority any discretion in the payments. I think 
 this arrangement might not be objected to, on the ground I have 
 
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 stated, for a limited period of from five to fifteen years. Any 
 surplus of revenue, or monies raised for the improvement of the 
 country, or for the increase of the establishments in proportion to 
 the gradual increase of the population and the vpants of the ad- 
 ministration, would be still und^r the control of the Legislature, ' 
 and at the termination of the limited period the full power of 
 regulating the taxation and expenditure would revert to them. 
 Before that time, it is to be hoped, all raparate habits and in- 
 terests might be nearly lo^t sight of, and the present collision of 
 feelings and prejudices give way to % general desire to consult 
 only the common good and the prosperity of the country in the 
 united Legislature, '-"''^'i n-jiii tn i.>tii:<.^hifi?.?..i:y,n tiw-^rn\.n'^f 
 
 Has the House of Assembly of Upper Canada ever expressed 
 any wish for a union of the two provinces ? — I have not heard so, 
 nor do T conceive the fact either way to be of much importance. 
 The people and the Legislature are only desirous to participate 
 in the exercise of the undoubted right of the whole people to 
 raise the revenue and regulate the commerce of the country. 
 
 In what way, in the case of the union, would you provide for 
 the more general services, and the rest of the revenue remaining 
 after the disposal of the civil list ? — I would leave it at the free 
 disposal of the united Legislature. 1 am perfectly satisfied, a 
 governor of conciliatory disposition, popular character, and good 
 sound sense, acting upon instructions from this country, founded 
 on liberal principles, would have no difficulty in balancing and 
 conciliating the different parties in the Legislature, and procuring 
 firom them ample means of improving the institutions, and pro- 
 moting the general interests of both provinces. 
 
 When the union of the two provinces was proposed in Parlia- 
 ment, did not a feeling arise in Lower Canada extremely hostile 
 to that measure? — An adverse feeling certainly was expressed 
 by the French population in Lower Canada, but not to a greater 
 degree than was anticipated. 
 
 Was not one of the grounds upon which that fbeling was 
 founded an apprehension, that under the circumstances of the 
 Union the provision for the maintenance of the Roman Catholic 
 clergy might be endangered? — ^There were several ill advised 
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 of the measure that some clause should be inserted protectiufr 
 the Catholic church and the rights of the clergy from all en- 
 croachment by any Act of the new Legislature. This intention 
 was not accomplished by the clause in the Act, which was con- 
 strued by the clergy as direct hostility against their establish- 
 ment. Nothing could have been so contrary to the feeling with 
 which any mention of the Church was suggested, and it would 
 be consistent equally with justice and policy to provide distinctly 
 in any measure for uniting the Colonies, against all dangers the 
 clergy may apprehend in this respect. 
 
 Each of those provinces having now a representative assembly, 
 would it in your opinion be possible or desirable to leave to those 
 assemblies the regulation of such matters connected with each 
 province as might be considered as local and particular, and to 
 assemble a Congress, consisting of certain members of both 
 bodies, to which might be given the charge of such concerns as 
 should be general to the two provinces ; among which may be 
 enumerated the collection of the revenue, great institutions for 
 the purpose of defence, and the general application of the 
 revenue, appointing to each of them a fixed civil list? — If it were 
 possible to satisfy the parties by any arrangement more than by 
 the whole measure of a union, I should be much inclined to 
 sacrifice a great deal for that object. But a Congress would in 
 fact be only a union with more complex machinery ; and I doubt 
 whether the objection of one individual in Lower Canada to any 
 measure of this description would be removed by it. The same 
 difficulty would occur in apportioning the influence of the two 
 parties in the Congress, as in a Legislature common tc both, and 
 you must make some alteration in the constitution of the As- 
 sembly of the Lower Province by the admission of representa- 
 tives from the townships. The great desideratum is to infuse 
 into the legislative body, under whatever regulations it may be 
 placed, persons of liberal education, who may be able to counter- 
 act the influence of narrow habits and old prejudices in retarding 
 the prosperity of the country. 
 
 Would not the same objection exist if a legislative union took 
 place ; would not the effect necessarily be, upon similar prin- 
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 Canada?— Certainly not, if you were to unite the two Legisla- 
 latures, adding to them a fair proportion of representatives from 
 the unrepresented townships in Lower Canada. • • • ♦ * 
 
 What would be the effect of inchiding the Island of Montreal 
 in Upper Canada ?— I do not think that any new division of the 
 boundaries would improve the condition of Upper Canada, and 
 the separation of Montreal from the Lower Province would pro- 
 duce more dissatisfaction than a more efficient measure. • » « 
 
 Can you state any other groun s of objection which have been 
 urged to the union of the two provinces besides those which you 
 have alluded to ?— I have heard of no other grounds ; but it is 
 quite impossible there should not be a great difference of opinion 
 on a subject affecting in so many ways the particular interests, 
 both of individuals and parties. For instance, persons residing 
 at Quebec, and at York in Upper Canada, may neither approve 
 of the removal of the I«gislature to Montreal, supposing that to 
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 To the Editor of the Morning Chronicle. ;,, ,, ^-^j. 
 
 Sir, 
 
 At this moment, when all British subjects, to whom our 
 colonial prosperity^ or, indeed, the real welfare and genuine liberty, 
 of their fellow-subjects in general, are objects of any value, must 
 be watching with deep anxiety the result of the disastrous outr 
 break which recently occurred in Lower Canada, a few observa- 
 tions on the subject of that colony, from one who has had some< 
 years' experience of it, may not be wholly without interest. Not 
 that those observations will contain much, if any, of novelty. 
 But it sometimes happens that truths, though " familiar as house- 
 hold words" to those whose duties or interests bring them in 
 constant contact with the subject of them, are forgotten or lost 
 sight of by the generality, whose attention is distracted among a 
 variety of objects, and is only casually called to the subject in 
 question. And such must ever be more peculiarly the case with 
 respect to any one of the numerous offsets from the parent stem 
 of this vast empire. 
 
 Let me guard myself, however, against being understood as 
 upholding or defending, by anything I am about to say, any 
 abuses really existing and requiring reform in the province. If it 
 should be considered right, upon constitutional grounds and after 
 mature consideration, that the Legislative Council should be 
 elected, as well as the House of Assembly, by the people — if it 
 should be decided that the judges and magistrates, and her 
 Majesty's law officers ought to receive their nomination fiom the 
 latter body instead of from the Queen — ^let these reformations, and . 
 
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 all others which may legally and constitutionally be resolved upon, 
 be carried into execution in r.oper time and proper manner; 
 though I should scarcely suppose that, after these two measures 
 had been carried, and I know that the last of them has long been 
 the real object of the democratic party in Lower Canada, her 
 Majesty would be advised to continue the erpensive establishments 
 now existing on the banks of the St. Lawrence, for the very empty 
 honour of still numbering Lower Canada, nominally, among her 
 colonial possessions. But the point on which I wish your readers 
 to satisfy themselves is, whether, supposing these changes in the 
 f>onstitution to be called for ; admitting for the sake of argument, 
 that a thousand abuses are still crying out fur reform — whether, 
 I say, there be anything in tht actual condition of the Canadians, 
 any suffering or privation on their part, resulting from such sup- 
 posed maladministration as can afford the slightest shadow of 
 justification of the means now attempted to be resorted to, for the 
 alleged object of dbtaining redress. If, indeed,! were addressing 
 these observations only to those who content thetnselves with 
 reading the more moderate portions of the press, I should con- 
 sider it a very unnecessary waste of time to combat the idea that 
 open rebellion is, in the present instance, if ever, to be vindicated. 
 But when one sees it boldly asserted, in speeches and in news- 
 papers, French as well as English, that the Canadians are suffer- 
 ing and writhing under the tyranny of their governors, to a degree 
 that almost challenges a comparison with the Poles or the Trish, 
 it becomes a natural and very necessary question what the real 
 condition is, and what the feeKnga of this people, who are thus 
 supposed to be ground and persecuted into rebellion. ' < ' *^ , 
 Now, I believe it would be impossible to find any one single 
 spot in any one quarter of the globe, the population of which is, 
 on the one hand, in such perfect enjoyment of all that conduces to 
 happiness and comfort, and, on the other hand, so exempt from 
 all those restraints, vexations, and contributions which usually in 
 societies form the price paid by the community for government 
 and protection. The curse of taxation is there scarcely felt 
 Liberty, whether as regards their religion, action, speech, or^ 
 writing, is enjoyed as fully and amply as in our own Etagland!. 
 Independence, as respecte prt^rty, Mists to such an extent, or. 
 
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 I ought rather to say, approaches so nearly to universal proprietor- 
 ship, as would, I fear, excite no small feeling of envy among our 
 less favoured peasantry, acquainted only with our more civilized 
 and more unequal distribution of property. The word " labourer," 
 in the European acceptation of the term, is almost without appli- 
 cation in Lower Canada, unless, indeed, in the persons of some 
 of the poorer emigrants of the mother country. The word 
 ** paysan," again, appears to have been rejected, as if the usual 
 acceptation of it in the old world had rendered it unworthy of a 
 race of landowners ; and '* habitant*' is the word universally used 
 to designate them, as if to point out the occupants, par excellence, 
 of the country, as distinguished from those who dwell in the 
 towns. By the operation of the law of inheritance, every French 
 Canadian succeeds to his father's freehold, or to a portion of it ; 
 and, unless he loses it by his own folly or misconduct, lives and 
 dies on it. Accordingly each Canadian has his own house, warm, 
 substantial, and commodious ; fuel for little more than his trouble 
 of cutting it; his land and garden (in which the tobacco, free 
 from duty or excise, makes a conspicuous and luxuriant appear- 
 ance,) rarely failing to yield a good crop, in spite of bad farming, 
 which is adhered to with all the obstinacy of independence ; 
 cattle, according to the extent of his land and his own taste, with 
 a certain market, easy of access for his surplus produce; and, 
 with rarely an exception, one or more stout handsome little 
 horses of the old Norman breed, with his two carriages, a cariole 
 on sledges for winter, and ths old-fashioned calash for summer. 
 And I wish that those who «ry out against tlie oppressed state 
 and discontented spirits of the French Canadians could witness, 
 as I have often done, the assemblage at one of the paroweSf or 
 parish churches, on a Sunday. Scores, I believe I may say hun- 
 dreds, of these carriages, waiting, without ccachmen or footmen, 
 it is true, but in perfect security, till the service is over ; and then 
 a pouring forth of cheerful and respectable-looking men, with 
 their wives and children, all well and warmly clad, chiefly in 
 clothes of their own manufacture, preparing to drive back to their 
 respective homes ; but not till they have made their respectful 
 and affectionate farewell to their cur($, and interchanged kindly 
 expressions or looks with their neighbours. Follow the course of 
 
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 the St Lawrence, from its ^If up to the confines of the upper 
 province (for Lower Canada is in truth little more than a belt of 
 vfttageR running along each bank of the river), and say whether 
 this picture be partial or overdrawn. All those who know the 
 country will pronounce it to be Universally and strictly true. 
 
 And these are the men who, it is hoped— most erroneously I 
 trust — will be persuaded to leave their comfortable homes, for the 
 prospecf of falling, either in art unequal and unholy conflict with 
 their fellow-citizens, or by the ruthless hand of a Canadian winter ! 
 And for the redress, too, of grievances which, even supposing 
 them to be anything but imaginary, are subjects of the most pro- 
 found indifference to the French Canadians. I have often been 
 amused at the difficulty experienced in warming them, ev^ii during 
 the almost universal excitement of a general election, to anything 
 like the fever heat required for common party purposes. A 
 would-be popular leader may of course always find a few fol- 
 lowers among his own friends and relations. But the mass of the 
 population have always appeared to me to be deaf to the history 
 of their own unfelt wrongs. They form an entertaing illustration 
 of Mr. Canning's " weary knife-grinder ;'' and are equally proof 
 against the patriotic auddisit^terested attempts of the transatlantic 
 " Friends of Humanity," to persuade them th^t they ought to 
 feel very miserable. The ** spiritless outcasts" are unreasonable 
 enough to feel that their lot is a happy oae, and to he contented 
 with it. So notorious indeed must be the happy state and happy 
 disposition of the Canadians in genera!, that I never imagined 
 M. Fapineau would, venture beyond a war against budgets and 
 . salaries. The natural idea was that he was playing a game of 
 brag, and trying how far he could go towards the attainment of 
 his favourite object of paralyzing the government by dint of fac- 
 tious opposition to all its measures in the House of Assembly, 
 and of threats and intimidation out of it. Lat? e\ents, however, 
 have shown that he had prescribed to himself no such limits; and 
 the question now is, or in all probability is before this time de- 
 cided, how far he may hope for support from his Canadian 
 brethren in the field. My confident hope and expectation is that, 
 though he seems to have succeeded in exciting a considerable 
 number of infatuated or desperate persons to rebellion, he will 
 
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 look in vain for anything like genera! co-operaMon from the mass 
 of the population. 
 
 t^)i X'know it may be said that the stupid contentment of a people, 
 and their blind indifference to oppression, can neither excuse the 
 oommenoement of the wrong, nor justify the continuance of it- 
 To that proposition I give my . cordial assent. Again I repeat, 
 Jet all existing abuses and grievances be redressed. AH I wish 
 „^> impress upon those who have patience to read this letter through 
 io, that they must not mistake a few hundreds of desperate out- 
 casts, headed by lawyers without clients, and doctors without 
 patients, for "the people ofliower Canada;" nor must they 
 implicitly believe in the existence of the grievances put forth by 
 these desperadoes, even though supported by the confident state- 
 ments of a small section of violert Radicals in London, or the 
 spiteful but obviously ignorant generalities of some of the Parisian 
 journals.,!, j,,^ uOiM.tmotvt yi/:?«v ^. , ,,( ^(i\„ .,d v.nif' 
 
 .■.jia> ;uM7 ^jiJlutjfll.h f I am, Sir, ^^ ^^ 
 
 ■'■'London. Dec«n6er26</i, 183^. '■"i'"^''^- ■"'""'' ^'•^'^^•^'*^' ' 
 yf, [Extracted from the Morning Chronicle of Monday January 1st, 1838.} 
 
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 «bu3 iKHi iwim^t ^^^ ^^^ CANADAS. "':'ni>fl!.> \r,„: ' 
 
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 5 To the Editor of ike Morning Chronicle. ^^^.^^^^ 
 
 Sir," Jtiisi?. >rat ,ir in lunr, vlphtifnirr vrttn >jMfhr.-^ 't^ .(-si'M • 
 
 huv ,ji In a letter which I addressed to you nearly six months 
 
 since, when the public nund was full of anxiety and apprehension 
 
 respecting the result of a mad attempt to overthrow the British 
 
 supremacy in Canada, I ventured to express a pretty strong 
 
 ;, opinion that the rebels would meet with but faint sympathy from 
 
 the general mass of the population. The events which have 
 
 since occurred go far, I think, to show that that opinion was not 
 
 ^iil'founded. And the state of tranquillity to which both pro- 
 
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 * Extracted from the Morning Chronicle of Saturday 23d of June, 183S. 
 
101 
 
 vinces, it is* hoped, are now restored, leave her Majesty's Go- 
 vernment to the equally important, and infinitely more arduous 
 undertaking, of introducing those reforms and improvements, 
 the want, or fancied want of which has been made the stalking 
 horse of those whose object was confusion, not reform ; not 
 improved government, but anarchy and plunder. i 
 
 It is not my intention, at least at present, to enter intb a 
 regular discussion of any one of the numerous objects of dispute 
 or agitation at present existing. Indeed, I scarcely know one 
 of them, whether relating to the two provinces connectedly, or 
 to either of them individually, which is not of far too great im- 
 portance to be treated of thus svimmarily. And the doubts so 
 becomingly expressed by Lord Durham, as to the success of his 
 undertaking, and the difference of opinion existing in the Imperial 
 Legislature as to the best mode by which the Governor-General 
 may be able to obtain the necessary information on these various 
 topics, are sufficiently indicative of the difficulties with which 
 the path to any adjustment which shall be satisfactory to all 
 parties is strewn. My object in now addressing you is merely 
 to point out to those on whom the heavy and awful responsibility 
 must devolve of ultimately deciding on the measures to be finally 
 carried, the danger of adopting any general system, whether 
 relating to legislative, judicial, or financial subjects, or indeed to 
 any other matter, without not only being satisfied that such 
 system is applicable in point of principle, but also well and 
 maturely examining whether its details are well adapted to the 
 new sphere into which it is. proposed to introduce it. 
 
 Such a caution may probably appear at first sight wholly 
 superfluous ; nor indeed should I now presume to offer it, did 
 not past experience justify and imperatively call for it — experi- 
 ence, too, derived from those very acts of the British Parliament 
 which conferred upon the Cauadas some of those institutions of 
 the mother country most valued for the elements of liberty and 
 good government contained in them, and most strongly, there- 
 fore, evincing the maternal anxiety of Great Britain that her 
 newly-acquired colonies might, in every constitutional way, be 
 gainers by the transfer of their allegiance. And I cannot help 
 observing, while adverting to this epoch of the history of Lower 
 
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102 
 
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 Canada, nn the barefaced injustice with which a portion of the 
 French, press reproaches us with tyranny and oppression towards 
 that Colony. Surely it is a suflicient answer to such calumnies 
 from that quarter to ask, and it is a question which I am sur- 
 prised has never occurred to these flippant writers-^what would 
 be the present oituation of Lower Canada, as regards free and 
 liberal institutions, if she had continued under French rule ? 
 How many stepa would she have advanced towards the attain- 
 ment of that high degree of civil liberty, from the exercise or 
 raliier abuse of which have sprung the very disorders over which 
 the section of the press alluded to so ungenerously exults P 
 Would she not rather, judging from the other French colonies, 
 be as nearly as possible in tbc.sqiiie statQ in whi«h we fjutuod hst 
 at the cession of Quebec ? 'r'f^* -■'•-'r;.? >o 'r...oH <*f<- '^-t.; nvoi''/- 
 But to retura to the more immediate object of this letter. 
 Proud as we justly are of our institutions, which, with all their 
 imperfections, I am old fashioaed enough to consider better 
 adapted than any others &t our home use, we still are somcThat 
 too apt to suppose that they must be equally well contrived for 
 other communities, no matter what tbeir habits, religion, colour^, 
 or climate, or what the nature of the laws by whicb they may 
 have hitherto been governed. It seems to have betn conudered* 
 sufiicient thai the abstract principle was unobjectionable, without 
 its being judged necessary, to inquire how the practical details 
 of the system might work. Of this fondness for the adaptation 
 of. the machinery, without sufficiently considering the fitness of 
 the materials to compose it, or of the subject matter on which it< 
 is to act, a striking exemplification presents itself in one of the 
 principal causes of the late unhs^py difierences. The nicely«: 
 8' usted balance of King, Lords, and Commons, so beautiful in-, 
 theoryv so eflUcient in practice (though, by the way, the practice 
 is in truth anything but a faithful reflection of the theory), oould' 
 not but succeed, it was thought, when represented on the minia« ' 
 ture stage of the Colonies, into, most of which, accordingly it 
 has been introducedi But in the ardour of admiration of iit& 
 prototype, the total absence in the copies of materials to tcrrn 
 the seeoitd. or intermediate body between the Grown and t!*.e 
 people > {I am epeaking more especially of Lowerf Canada, but; 
 
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 the defect must necessarily exist, more or leu, in all the Colonies 
 in which "the oonstitution" has been introduced), was over* 
 looked, or at least insufficiently provided for. And accordingly 
 the Legislative Council, the Colonial House of Lords^ consists 
 of members, not merely nominated by the Crown, and poHsessing, 
 therefore, no hereditary or independent claim to sit as legislators, 
 nor^ generally speaking, any landed or permanent interest in the 
 Colony, but, for the roost part, holding office under governnienL 
 It is useless and impossible to deny that this fcrms a most 
 material and almost fatal variance between the original and the 
 copy. It, in truth, renders the Legislative Council little more 
 than a second edition of the Executive Council ; in other words, 
 the executive government and' the Legislative Council, the 
 Crown and the House of Lords, that is to say, are nearly iden- 
 tical. But would the other horn of the dilemma, on which the 
 ultra-popular party are desirous of fixing the government^ make 
 the matter better ? " Make the Legislative Council elective," 
 say that party. But every one who knows anything of Lower 
 Canada, and of the division of property which exista there, would 
 agree that no increase of qualificaUon, or of the elective franchise, 
 which could be adopted, would render an elected Legislative 
 Council anything more, in reality, than a counterpart of the 
 House of Assembly. And if this latter body be, as it has proved 
 itself to be, more than a match for the Government and Legis- 
 lative Council united, what chance would the Government have 
 against the two popular bodies, identical as they would then be 
 in origin, principles^ and interest? It would be far honester,' 
 and equally beneficial, to abolish the Legii^ative Council altO' 
 gather, and let the Government act, if it could, with the House.' 
 of Assembly alone. 
 
 Thi:: difficulty, arising as it did and does out of the different ' 
 orgbnization of society in the Colonies, compared with that of 
 the mother country, , could not, perhaps^ have been prevented or^ 
 remedied consistently with the determination of adhering to the 
 model of the Bri' ish Constitution. But I will now call the atten-' 
 tion of your re.-^ders, if, indeed, I have not already exhausted^ > 
 their patience, to another instance of root and branch trans^ 
 plantation, where the simple process of a little previous pruning . 
 
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104 
 
 
 would have rendered the tree much fitter for the new soit iu 
 which it was intended to flourish. By statute 14th George III., 
 ch. 83, commonly called the Quebec Act, it is enacted, that " the 
 criminal law of England shall be administered and observed as 
 law in the' province of Quebec, as well in the description and 
 quality of the offence as in the method of prosecution and trial, 
 and the punishment and forfeiture thereby inflicted ; to the ex- 
 clusion of every other rule, of criminal law or mode of proceeding 
 thereon, which prevailed in the province before 1764." And 
 the same system was continued to Upper and Lower Canada by 
 31 Geo. III., c. 33, when the province of Quebec was divided 
 into those two provinces. Now, that the introduction of the 
 English criminal code and mode of procedure was, generally 
 speaking, a real inestimable benefit to the French Canadians will 
 scarcely be disputed by any one who values the trial by jury, or 
 who considers our humane .^and temperate rules of evidence pre- 
 ferable to the entrapping and self-criminating mode of inquiry 
 (I speak doubtfully as to the use of the rack), which was tolerated 
 by the French law much later than 1760. And yet, with all 
 my partiality for these admirable institutions, I doubt whether 
 even in theni improvements might not have been made, so as to 
 have rendered them better adapted to the new scene of their 
 exercise. I incline to think, for instance, that instead of insisting 
 in criminal trials on absolute unanimity in the verdict of the jury, 
 a majority — not a bare casting vote, but of not less than nine 
 to three — would have been more suited to the materials of which 
 juries are commonly composed in Lower Canada, by making 
 allowance for one or two wrong-headed persons. With regard 
 to ex-officio informations by the Crown officers, again, though I 
 sincerely believe that this power, extensive and arbitrary as it is, 
 has never been abused in that province, and though I feel 
 morally certain that the late exercise of it by the Attorney- 
 General, from my knowledge of that v uHeman's character, was 
 sound in point of judgment, as well as h yuest in intention, still 
 I am by no means prepared to say, considering the necessary 
 irresponsibility of the officers of government to the local legis- 
 lature, that this power ought not to have been at least put under 
 certain restrictions. • 
 
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 105 
 
 But it is in the body of the laws themseWes, fttill more than in 
 the mode of administering them, that I think alterations and 
 modifications should have been made before they were thus 
 sweeping^Iy introduced. The great improvements which the 
 last few years have brought about, in tempering the sanguinary 
 severity of the law of England, form the best proof that, in the 
 opinion of the public, that law was in many instances needlessly 
 and therefore perniciously harsh, even in the highly luxurious 
 and vicious state of society for which it was originally framed. 
 How infinitely worse adapted, then, must it be considered for the 
 mere prevention of crime among a people of such comparatively 
 simple habits as the Lower Canadians. It may be said that it 
 was open to tHe Colonial Legislature to temper the undue se- 
 verity of the English enactments by its own local provisions : 
 and this is true i but this power was certainly exercised but in 
 few instances, at least up to the year 1822; and I recollect 
 myself an instance of a man being hanged for horse-stealing 
 somewhere about the year 1820. Now neither of the usual 
 reasons for visiting this offence, or that of cattle stealing, with 
 the extreme penalty — neither facility of perpetration, difficulty of 
 detection, or a highly improved state of rural economy, requiring 
 special protection — existed in Lower Canada. 
 
 It would be unnecessary, though not difficult, to multiply 
 instances in which institutions, highly salutary in their general 
 ohjects, have been productive of partial evil through the inap- 
 plicability of some of their details to the state of these Colonies. 
 But k might be far from useless to consider this subject, with 
 reference to the all-important point of the union of the two 
 Cansdas, more especially as regards fiscal regulations. A law 
 respecting the revenue, or the mode of its collection, is introduced 
 from the mother country, perhaps by mere implication, as part of 
 an entire system, and takes effect in both Colonies. Some in- 
 convenience or injustice is discovered, as affecting one of the 
 provinces, which naturally seeks the removal of the evil. The 
 other, a gainer probably by the unequal action of the regulation 
 to the same extent that the sister province is a loser, resists all 
 alteration, or at all events will lend no aid from its own I isla- 
 ture, without which all the efforts of the sufferer are inop< ve. 
 
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 A united Legislature, based on fair principles of equality, would 
 not suffer such a grievance to remain unabatH a single session. 
 And if my memory does not greatly deceive me, that was one of 
 the arguments used in 1822 in support of the union of the two 
 provinces vrhen that measure was all but carried by the cc^onial 
 administration, of which Lord Bathurst was then tfae head, and 
 the present Sir Wihnot Horton the representative in the Jlouse 
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