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PROVINCE OF MANITOBA.
ITS POSITION IN CONFEDERATION.
SI=EEOS:
ON
BUDGET DEBATE,
BY
JVIR. GREENWAY, M. P. P.,
LKADEli OF THE (,)PP0SITI()N IN THE
LOCAL LE(iISLATUKE,
ON APRIL 23rd, d884.
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MR. CKI'I^XW.W, M. I'. 1'.,
Lciuhr of Ihc OjipoKiltoH 'nt tin' Lnrnl Lt'in-^lohnw,
Mr. (Mvcnwav. wIk., on iLsin^' was loiidlv apphimlcd, said :
I feci thai, oil tliis occasion I d(» not lisc to addics> tlic
House imder ordinary circiinistances. 'Vhv Premier i)i niakin-
the motion to go int(» Committee of Snj>|»ly, e.xpriis.sed tlie
opinion that the discussion won M i»i-ol)al)lvcovei' a wide lan'-'e ;
and it IS, I may say, customary on these occasions to r«;view
the actions of the ( ioxeiiunent of the <h'iy, and iii (hting so
members are aihtwed tlie widest jiossihli' hititu(h' ol" di.scu.ssion.
'Jioar.; To any one ]i.stening to the leach'r of the (rovernmeiit
• hiring tlie two lioui-s he spitke on tliis (juestion, it must he
evi(h'nt tliat the ()])|tosition were, metaphorically speaking,
supposed to be left without a garment. (Hear and laughter.)
But I can stand here to-day and .say conscii-ntiously that 1 am
more than gratified to find that my hon. friend did on an oc-
casion of this kind make the sjteech he did. (Cheers.) It is
certainly gratifying to me, us taking a great deal of interest in
Manitoba ])olitics foi- some time ]»ast. to fin<l the k'ader of tli(>
(iovernment standing up, and with tlu; authority of his jiositioii
— and he necessarily speaks with authority -enunciate views
which I have entertained all along in reference to the Lr»<'at
((ue.stions agitating tin; public mind to which he alluded.
fJ-fear, hear.) ( "ertainly the present position of affairs in our
Province is deplorable. (Hear, hear.) W(> are called on now
to consider the linancial }tosition ol the Province, a siil'ject on
\\ liicli iiiiy niM' ill t.lic iluii^tv or itiitsidc it, at ull well an|(iaiiite(l
with Pniviiuial aflairs, cauiutt lia\<' any tl(iul>t. We raimnt
ovcrtakr t»iir liiil»iliti -s thus miicli is al)Uii<lantly evidi'iit.
Wf liavT ail amuial siihsidy iiiadu ii|) in tliis way : — •Kor lt\!j;is-
lation ami i^ovcrnniciit, S.')<»,(M)() ; tlir sn ,'(.nt,s per head ul"
lMt|.iil!iti<.n,SlL>(),()()() ; ill lien iA' land. SI.;).(Kmi ; interest on the
l.alaiiee of capital at our credit. S| l>, |:):{.2|. ; total, *227. 1 ').'). l' k
No oiic conversant with onr re(|uireinent.s as a I'roviuce will
inidcitaUc lo sa_\ that this is a sutrieieiit siini, on whicli to I'on-
diiet the ali'aiis of the l'ro\ incc. Ivepresentatioiis have Ween,
as we know. fVe<|iiently ina<le at Ottawa, to ciiani^c this state
of Jiriairs, hill Ntill they want reniedyiiin'. No siil)stantial,
lastin;;', satisfactory readjiistiiient lias ever heeii arrivt'd at.
Hear, hear.; We liave, of course, that celehrated Ottawa
desjiaich of .Vpril 2ud : hut neither does that apply a
reiiie(|y, ( llejir, iiear.) It seems to nie ine.xpliciahle that in
the face ot" repeated representations and remonstrances iiiailc
!»y dele'^ates from time to time, so little should liavc been
criected tli.'it our ))osition il^ionss woi-sv' instead of inijirovinL;'.
( Hear, hea!'. Some months aeo. in addition to all previous
ivpresentatioiis made to Ottawa, wo made out a stroiiir case in
favor of the extension of the i'rovincial hounds, so that we
would he enahled to aitl and control tlie projected Hudson's
r»ay llailwiiA a road wliieli the jieople unanimoii.sly desireij,
and wliieh was of the utmost con.seipieiiee to the ]U'os])erity ol'
the Province.
The res|»oiise made from Ottawa, as contained in this
celehrated des)»atcli, was that the (lovernment pro[)osed to
a/id the railway to a material extent, and to provide that tlie
interests of .Manitolta should be protected. I am not aware
that we have the sliohtest inkling as to how oui' interests arc
lo he protected. Hear, luiar. Whatever they may do, is, I sup-
pose, to be taken as a protection of our inti'i'ests. ( J^au'diter.)
This is a way they have at Ottawa. Hear, hear.) And!
must complain her*; that there has been a disposition to trifle
with these important matters Perhaps. Mr. Speaker, it might
not be out of place foi' me to e.\|.ivss a fear which I have
riitiMtaiiicd for soiiii- tiiiu-, that in i\\\> iiii|M)rtaiit iiiatt<M'. ton
oiii' intL'ie.stH liavc not Ihm'Ii huhh1<'«I so closrly us tlit-y niij^lit
liavi- l)(.'(»ii --it is poni.silile tluit it may tuiii out tliut what has
ln'cn (l<»n(' ill coiiucrtioii with the llmlsoiis Hay Kail way may
h.avo hcoii iiion; with tlio olijcct of drhiyiiii; rather than cxpc-
ditiii;;" the coMstruction of that roa«l, whit;h is to <lo so mncli
lor this count! v.
When this liCiiishitiiri' asM-mliinl in March hist I think*
that the ( iovcinmcnts of Ottawji an<l .Maiiitol»a iiiKhTstood
then the |»(jsition of affairs hnc as well as they do now. (Hear
hear, ( Ihit t he one i;o\eiinnent su<^''este<l further delas' and
the other very obi iy;ininly took the hint in the resohitions and
ai^reed to the a|t|>()intment of a eonnnitt-ee as a i-apital wa\ ol
shelving the difficulty till a more convenient season ^Hear
liear.j The comjilaint here all aloni;- has lieen not that the
gentlemen at < )ttawa did not understand the position of affairs
ill Manitoha — for tliey ha\e luul full infonuation-- -the I'rem-
ier's own clear and exhansti\(' stati^nieiit su|»|)lemcnting all
tlie rest -altliough it must he adde(l they do not seem t«» liaxc
made tin' hest use of" that infurmation. In their despatch
thoy sliovv an utter disrc^^ard of facts, which is astonishing
In see. 2 of the desj)atch, referring to the financial position,
they say that the hasis in which we icceiM' the SO cents n
head is on l:iO,(HK) souls, whereas they suggested when the last
arrang(!ment was made' that for that purpose the [lopulation of
our l^rovince sliould he assumed to he j. '>(),( )i)() sou Is -and upon
that hasis was tlie .Sf 2(),<M)ii, or SO cents |)er head, granted.
From tliis it appears (piite eleai' that u]»on this occasion at
least they have not gi\en tlu- siihject the most oidinary c<-'n
sideration.
In the next clause, referi ing to tlie finaiiciKl position, I
tliink we have tlie key to the whole situation. It is at least
one with which memhers on the ( )pposition sidi- would, oil gen-
eral principles, agree, 'i'hey announce |»lainly enough that
they have no contidt'iice in the CI((Verninent of Manitoha.
(Cheers and laughter.; Still, I protest, in the interests of this
rn.\ incf. u^'iiinst hniniiiioii intt rten.'iu'c in Mur jiiraiiN. I say
tliat the |H'((|)lc lii'ic luivr a lii^'lit to «Uit/<;niiiii(^ who shall |,'ov-
(!rn tlicin. ('hcfrsj And solctnir as tlif I'lciiiici' sits tlusn; —
aii<l can 1»\ hiin' tactii's In- mav use k<M'|) himself tluTc — (lanijjh-
tcr;— ln' has a ri;^'ht to the ('onlidcncc of the |m'oj»Ic of Maiii-
toha. I Ileal- and fluM'is. ) 'riiuse ;^^('ntli'nK'n at nttawa, cjis-
ciissing oiii' i"|)rt'Hontations, say tliat they have Ikmmi j^ivrn a
sacivd trust in regard to our school lands, and do not projxKse
to liand thein over to us. (Hear, hoar.) That is to say -the
|>eo|de of Manitolia cannot he trusted to do tiie lie.st for them-
selves in tliis particular. Hear and laughfer. i I hai'dly
(hink it is necessary to discuss the (|uesti<»ii as to whether
these lands could he hest adniinistei'ed hero or at Ottawa., if
tlieir general mana^icmtint of the lands in this conntrv is to be
or? «
taken as a <M'itorion of the nwinner in which tlie
School Lands of this Province would he managed
from those, then we aic safe in saying that we oh-
ject to its Ixung done from tlu; Domiidon ('a|»ital.
(Ilojir. hear.) We are certainly in a nuich hotter ))osition to
a<lminister them liere tlian tliey ai'o at < )ttawa, whore they
neithei- understand our position noi undertake t«» aoquaijit
thoniHolvos fully with it. (Choors.; As to our ))ul)Ii" lands,
we are to ask not only for what romainH, but also to require
conijiensation for sueh as have boon sold. On this point, I still
hold to m\- view as iteiiiL; the corroot one, viz., that as so muoli
of oui' land has been alienated, we should undertake to devise
some way by which an e(juivalont for that and for the lands
still held should be i-ooeivod and added to oni- capital account.
(V\
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That would, it seems to me, bo the best way of
dis|>osingof the (juestion. The absurdity of the position takcMi
by the gentlemen at ( )ttawa is well illustrated i»y thocomjiari-
sou they draw hotwoen this Province and Prince Kdwaril
Island. Because the laii'ls (»f Manitoba wei'e purchased and
Pi'inoo Kdward Island had none to purchase, therefore, they
say Maintoba should be j)laeed in the same jiosition as her
sister Prov'inco by the Atlantic, and get an allowance. On the
strength of this oomi>arisoii thoy take the ground that i^DOO,-
()iM) should l»e added to oiir capital aootiunt. as representing the
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''Hear, lit'ar.j Tltr I'n'inii'r took fxcciition lu tlir statfint'iit
thai till' S4.').()(M> aiimiallv uiaiitcd was in lifii of mir liLrlil to
our |)iil)lic lands. I can only ivply tliaf in this drs|»at(!li tlicv
roprcst'iit that the s4.'».(M>n is j^ivcn in lien ot'oui piiMic lands.
And tlic position I took wns tiial wc should not acct^pt it as
sllrli.
Hon, .Mr. Nof(|nMy- Ami I ik'nci cnnscntt'd, on the |i)irt
of the ( Jovcinnicnt, to |init with oui' ri^ht to oiir lands for tin-
Sl.r).()()0 — no) did any imndM-r oC the ( loviTnnu'nt (Hear,
hear. I Prince Kdwaid Island wlr h was cited as an analo-
^'oiis case, had not an acre, in Manitoha. wheie the |n()|ile
liad their ( Vown lands, they were in a very diHerent position
IVoni Prince l-ldward Island. Hear, hear).
Mr. (iieenway -The position they took at ( Mtawa was that
it was in lien of onr lands \ve yot the Traill. ili'ar, hear.^
The other point in this connection as to tin- ten vi-ais' settle-
ment is one which I look iVolii a s|»eech in the House ol' ('oiu-
nioiis on that (piestion It washy the I'inance .Minister of the
Dominion-- who (»uir|it to know. l)Ut it apjicais that lion.
U'enthnnan was wioni"' ; and ihioimh his misstatement I was
misled. No one (toiild he more happy than I am to acknow-
lede-e the misujiderstandin^' -which, perlia])s, may prove a
heiH'tit to us in the end. Hear, hear.; We have heen all
alontjf anxiou.sly lookiiiL,^ tor relief' from our present ditticnlti(!s:
and we have heen led to helieve, all through this session, hy
the oroan of the l)omini(»n ( ioveiiinien*. in this (Mty— tlirou«,di
its teley;rams — that the question of Manititha s interests was
to he considered to-mon'ow -or ue.\t wec^k-or on a certain
day — it was always u'iuiil;- to he done, hut it neser was done :
and so the position remains to this day. Cheers and laui^terO
Our conttiiition on this side of the House is that the (!ov-
ernnient of Manitoha takes to-(Lav a step that it ou<jjht tohav*-
taken long since. (Hear, hear.; Tliey .should long hefore this
have slutwn the Ottawa aiitlioritie< tliat they could not with
im])nnity ti'itle with our hest interests. (Cheers.' Th(u-e
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setiiiied to lu' at Ottawa a stinlictl deteniiiiiatiou to ij^nure the
ri'priiscntatioii.s of tliis Province How (^Isc doos it ]ia))poii
that a manifesto siicli as tlic Pivmicr |»ivs(Mit<><l there, wliicli
was ill jtsrlf i|iiit(' siifhciciit to |M)inr to the necessity t'oi"
|)roni|)t a<ition, while jit the same time ilisahusinfj their minds
<>(" the idea tliat Manitoha was draining away Kastern resonr-
c.t^s- -liow (h)cs it happen thftt with sncli an aiithoi-itative
statement issued at the ( "apital, they still clifiij;' to their nn-
t'oniKh'd notions as to .Manit(»l)a heini;' a hui'deii to them '. So
niucli is this the case that one of the nieml>ers su]>posed to lie
hest informed —who is, it is l»(die\((l, to hecome a memV)er of
t h(> ( roveriinient — hesitates not to commit himself to the stupid
assertion that we are a pampered people spoon-fed lot.
Laughter.) Kvidently tliey take little pains ro accpiaint
tlienisel\-es with the position of this l^roviiice. Hear, lieai'.
Ler us for ;i moment cnih-avor to <j:i\c a coirect statement of
our position in (Confederation. And. in order that there sjiould
he no misuiideistandini;, I will take the jniijlic accounts of the
l)(»mini(jii as my o-nide. We find on pajM'sl42and 148, in the
I'uldic Works report for 1 (SS:>. some tigures hearintj on this
point, I ]iav<' hccii desirous, for instance, to asccM'tain wimt
amount of the cost of construction the( '. W W. is reallv cliargfc-
ahl(> to tliis I'rosincc, for it must i>e rcmemhered that one of
the stateiiKiiits tlie\ tliii^' in our face is that the\' are I nildinfj
tlie('. P. 11. for us. Hear, liea).' Well, I tind on lookinsf
into the tii;ures. that the |»roportion which they say theinsol-
\es out;ht to he chai'u'ed to this l^-oxince on account of the
('. P. R.~-S.').(H1.1S1 S.") or. countinu,- from the time wc entiM*
e(l ( 'onfederation, t(j the yL'ar l(SS*2. there is cluirsjeable to us,
acoordino; to their own ^I'owiiio- for all jmrjioses- — a total of
S(i,S()2,()*i(i.lS What do we see lio'lit aloiiLTside these fiu'ui'es ?
That in the same time ()ntario recei\-ed from Dominion
.sources ami is ciiari,^eal»le with l)i58!).l!»().()77.40 : and
t»)uehec S2r..SoO,:J;M-.:}7. And w<' should not forget.
Sir, that neither ( )ntario nor (^Miebec ( ontrilmted an
acre of land towards tlie constructtion of the ( '. P. Pv.
Besides all this, we saw the other day that that same Province
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iitioii, so ill-coiistnicted, or niaiuig('«l that it allows of tlic ]n'r-
jM'tratioii of siieli aets:' (Ffcai', lu-ar. i The schenio was dt'visi'd
tol.iiild U|» a great now iiati'tn on tins continent. — and the ('.
I*. It. vas to pcove a [toteiit l>i>nd nf union KetwccMi the seat-
tei'efl Provinces — in dui innocence we regarded it as a grt.'at
national undertaking in the iriterest of llritish ('olund»ia, as
well as of ou)se|\ cs and the other l'ro\ i)ii-es - hut soinethinL'
nioie than the railway is n(M-ded to Kind us together ; and,
numifostly. if ever we aic to Weconie i\ great iieo]»le. it can only
he l>y dis|iensing e\ cn-handcd justice to all the Piovinces con-
federated. ( "heers. I low can the houiinion piospei' and
hold together when such unrighteous acts as giving away S5),-
(XiO.diiO are perpetrated fof the reasons assigned .' (^)uehe('
must he |)laced ill a siiuilai jtositioii tit ( )iitario : and so wo tind
the Federal authorities actually Notingaway millions of dollars
to suhsidi/e railways in (^)ueliee, which railways had Ik en
already in part sold oy that l'ro\ince ! So that (^>ueliee actu-
ally got |)aymeiit for that portion of t hem twice over. Hear.
Ilea,".'; With such facts h'fore them, the wise ukmi in the hiast,
still speak disparagingly of this l'io\ince. In further retuta-
tatiiMi of this charge I will (|Uot<' no les.N an authority than the
Premier of the Dominion himst'il. As hoii. gentlemen are
awai'e the intention in reference to the eastern termimis of lh(>
( ". P. P. for some time was. that if should he at ('allanler, l>nt
afterwards on account of the policy of assistance adopted hy
the then hominion ( icsvei iimeiit towards the ( 'anada ' 'ditial
llailwa\', it was ju'actically extended eastward a:- iar as Ottawa.
Now this is the position taken h\' the leader of the <lo\'-
ernmeiit at ( )tra wa during tiie ilehate on t he cejehrated rail-
wax iesolution>, to whicii I ha\<' referred. Here the memher
j'or Mountain read from Sir .lohn .Macdonalds speech an ex-
tracl, in which it was pointecl out that until the easterly
houndar\' of Maiiitoha was reached the whole of the ('. P. II.
ran through < )ntario ; that ity suhsidising that portion oi" the
line nnining round the north shore of I^ake Superior, the
10 —
\\'lli»l(' colintlT there WduM lie (levelojted : tliat tlie ll'.OOO (1(»1-
Inrs per mile for tliis secti()i\ and the n'raiit t.u tli<' ('. 1'. |{.
sank int<» insioiiififance, so tar as Ontario was concernod, on
accoinit (»f tlie etioinious advantagt; slie nuist ^ain in tlie open-
ing' nil ot" that teiM'itoiN', \Nliirli. undonhtedlw wonM liivatlv
enricli that Pi'o\-inee from the mineral, timlier and other i-e-
s()Ui"(.'es of the Country al)ont ti) l»e o)>ene(l up -and that, there-
lore, as ( )ntario would he sn much the L;'ainer. it wonid he oidx"
fail' that (^)nel)e(' shonld i;'et an ei[uivalent ^rant from tlie pnh-
lie pui'se. That was the |)(isitioii taken hy the leader of the
l)o)iiiiii(»n ( 'ONi'i'nnient . atid we eonrend that until tlie ('.[*. |\.
reaehes tlie i'roNinee line til the eastward, the Doniinion has
no ritilit to sav to Maintoha we built ojie foot of load for you.
(Hear, liear. In referenei' to the <|uestiou of Pro\ incial hinds
I lia\'i' some figures, taken from the i>lue books of tlu; Domin-
ion, L;i\in^ as near as may l»e a collect return of tlie lands
disj»ose(| of iri Manitolia l»y tlie Dominion, from is.Sd till the
end of l,S(S.'i. riiis is till! statoiiKMit : Theie were liomesteaded
during' the four yeai's 1^,748,4(10 acres, dn which the fees ))aid
aiiioiinted to S:2n!t,74.'); tiiere were pre-empted duiiiii;- the same
period •2.:i!»!i,0.')lac,i'es.on which the pa \'iiientswei'<'>^l .'>!),(i7">:tliere
weir cash sales, including;' scri]» and wairant lands, to the ex-
tent of *J. 02"), 7")N acres, on which the fees paid were Si .!>(»(), -
!in:i.")0. This -ives a total of s4,lo:V-')N4.r)2, It must he taken
tor o-i-aiite(| that there i> a lai'i;'e amount due the Dominion
< lo\-ernment for lands sold in Manitoba. On the ist of Ani;'-
ust. Is7!>, it will be remembered, the land regulations dividing
the eountiy into belts, came into force. Many of these lfin<ls
were sold tor oiie-tentli down, with ten \»ars to pay the oal-
anee, and no doubt much of the amount i> o\'ei'due. I know
of many instances where the tir^t, payment dt" one-tenth is all
that has been paid The proportion now due .Manitoba on
that branch of the account would be So^dJ-')! — makinga total
of S4.7( 10,38.").') L*. This is, let me say. alow estimate of the
amounts iecei\-ed by the |)(tminion from the sale of lands in
this j'rovinee — and it is one which 1 know, falls far short of
some of the (Estimates made by soin- niemlK'is of the ilouse of
II.
),-
'II
1)1)
1 1'_
. — 1
|,n-
Is
ill
— II —
C'oiiiiJKjns wluni uiidcitakiiiy tn sIkiw tliut tlif ( '. I'. IJ. whs
not yoiiin' ^" ^'"^t Kastcni |ic()|ilc aiiytiiiiii; in tlic long run.
(Hcai', hear.)
To sliow tiic total aiiiouiit of IjiikI alienate*! tVom tliis
Pntvinee, iii_\' statement will liasc to lie nioii- eoinprelieiisixe.
I liave shown tliat lioinrstcads ('o\(;rc(! :>.7 l-'>.4'(i() acres; j»re-
ciiiptioiis 2, •J!HI, .*}')! aeres ; f'oi- casli and scri]* and warrant lands
2,02."),7-"S aeri!s ; l»nt tlicrc arc hcsidcs tlie Hudson IJay lands,
1, (>.')!, (iOO acres: the lialf-hreed lands I ,i(Ki,()(»0 aer(,'s : an 1 flie
(". 1'. U. -rant I, :)(•( ),()(►(» arr.vs.-.-,.r a ^rand n.tal oi' I :i.(;()!),,S(iI)
acres, — iiKjre than (Mjual to the area of the old I'l-oxinee of
.Manitolia. Hear, lieai.) In tact, tliis would inehide tlie
wliole country from a little (tast of licd lliser as I'ar as tlie
western houn<h'iry of the Province, and Lt'oinu as far iiortli as
townshij)s 1(> or 17. including- the l>est j)oiii()n ot the Province,
— over an area to that extent the Pro\incial lands ha\'e Ikhii
all alienati^l. Hear, liear. I lia\c not, it will Ik; ohser\c<l,
included our school lands in linuics i^ixcii. They are(»urs and
cavmot he parted with . Itut for the icst I think an e(jui\alenl
miijfht he taken. We ha\e heen al\\a\s told from ( >ttawa that
the amount given u> was so much to help us,- a sort of gift as
it were, to (.'uahle us to pull through. IJut in no principle ol'
justice can any such position l)e taken. ( 'heers. In every
instance the amount gixen us was charged to ea.|»ital account
W'.' were, in realitw ^'ettiini' a portion of our own iiione\.
(Hear, hear.) And wdiat should lia\'e heen done was not to
charge us with the amo\ints so a,dde(l tit capital, hut oiil\' our
proportion of the interest accdniit. Hear. The f'edi ral
authorities, in makiiiu up their statement, ^o on to chaigc thi>
ProN'ince with cei'tain --ums, such a> theaiiHmnt,^ for (io\ci'n-
meiit pui'poses, for piihlic roads, for the e\.]»e(litioiiary force,
and for jiuhlic wurks and hiuldings. In legaid to tliese oidy
a certain pro]ioition can he i'easniial>ly chai'^ed to Manitoha,
(Hear, hear.) H*, as they say, they hoii^ht us, and ]»aid f»r us,
we certainly cannot he cllar^callle with the lump sums paid
out. The ,s| .')()Oj)()n. {'m cxainplc, was paid for the e.xtinguish-
iii" oj' the claims of the Hudson s llav i 'ompan\', not meicK in
?.l
— lli —
till.' ri(»\ iiicc. Itiituvcr (lie wIk'Ic ol'tlic Northwest; ;in<l il'tlic
|ir))in'i iti'cji (»(' tliis I'ldviiicc were (•(iiii|>jirt'il witli IIm- Noitli-
■st. soiiiutliiiiiL;" like our |iid|toitioii of t lie cost uttlif iturdiasc
iild 1)(' asccrtainod. It woiiM Itc nl)i>iit. oiic-t vvelftli. Now.
U(
CO
it" W(! take tlie ditrei't'iil items speeilietl in the Doiiiiiiiou repoiis
and add ihi'iii iij), it will l>e louiid that we eaiiiiot. in ii^asoii
lie ciiarire<l with more tlutn SS, (!(>", 'J^i 24. It is a \r\y diller-
cut sum, indeed, from tlu: s1-.").0()(i,(hi(i wjili which some eastern
lo_i;'islator i;'i'a\cly |ii'oj»o.stvs to rharn'e us. Hear, he-ar.) Now
look at the credit side of (he accmint and let us see how it will
come out Tile Federal lialance .^heet down to ISS.*>. shows the
amount to the credit of .Manitoba from lands, customs, (,'.\cise,
jiost-(/tfice, and some smaller items, which, with tlie Italance
due on lands, makes a ^rand total of S!».:)()(i, I-4I . 10. I )t!duct
tile subsidy, and adding;' the amount due (<■: salesol' land in the
l*ro\ ince, and the actual halance m faxor of .Manitoba will he
7')".. >.).)..)
I'j-. ->•>
H
ear, liear,
They ha\c of couinc a riLihl to cliai'i;'!.' us with interest on
oil)' share of the expenditures tic SS.i;(i7,-i:i !..•_' 1- of which I
s|ioke. The annual interest woidd l)e sMM .17<>. <>r. down lo
the |)r(>se)it time, a litth- ovvt S|n:i 1 ,7(i."i. DuritiLi" that periiMJ
we were entitled to a credit of SS,.")S7.:^*J4. 1-'), and dediictiiin'
iVom this the amount due for interest, w ith t he eosts of adiiiin-
istratJoii of justice and eoiicction of re\'enue, W'' lia\e the bal-
ance I lia\c mentioned in ta\or uf Manitoba, vi/.: -S4,7(!(), -
'>.S.").."):i — wjiich am(»unt, capitali/ed at IInc |u'r cent., woidd
Liive us annually S2:»N,()| ().77. Hear. Kroiii the statistics I
iia\(' (|Uot(,'»| it i.s plain that we are a lai'ue contributor t(» the
Dominion. ( 'lieers.)
Si\o'.-|(ick liasiii:^ struek.tlu ijebate was a.diouriie(b
Mr. (
'«reenwa\' lia\ in
the tl
oor.
i:\KNl.V(i SKSSIo.N,
il<
The Speakei' ha\ ing taken the chair.
Mr. ( Ireenwn.y resunieil his speech, saving- —When t he
oiise adjourned I was abmii eoncludinn- soiiie remarks on
— i:j —
li'^'iii-.'s wliicli I lijul i-.\t railed iVciii talmhitiil ^talciiiciil> mn-
laiiicil ill liliic IxKiks issued liy till' h"c(li'ial < inxcriniiciit. and I
think I had shnwti jiri'ttv i-onchisiN rly tVuui tlicsc lliat. iiistca*!
nl" Manitoha ln-inoa (h?iin ii|pun the icsinirccs of tln' I )(»nnninii,
as eastern |M'(i|»h' ^cnci'ally assipiH' it is, wr ha\f l\ in^' at nnr
i-iT(lit, when We ha\r hern chai-n-rd with all tliat can possihU'
Ix" (•Jiari;('d til Us, and i-i'cditcd witli these ^unis to uhicii \\r
ha\e a, I'iu'ht, a sum whii-h woidd yield wdien caiiitaii/cd at
ti\(' |)<'r(ent. niiifc than the ie\enut' wr (jerixc tVoui tlie Dn-
niiniuu t<»-day. When \\f read such tads as these tVoni the
accounts of the dominion theius(d\es it ^Iioas cleai'lv that
t hose i;'entleuien who undertake to CoUsidef oui' case, oi- more
|>rojier!y. do not umleilake to consi(h"- it, have not looked into
the facts ot' the case when tliey assume such [tositions. Tosa\'
that W(; liave a. rii;iit to he charn'cd foi all the undeftakinus
winch they enumerate, and which amounts haAc heeu
adde(l til the dc^lit nl" the l)ominii»n -is U> take a |tosition, that
the merest noxice, in matteis of finance, would see at a L;lauce,
was ahsurd.
As Well uML;iit those jieo|»|e ehai'L;'e ( )ntai'io with the
amiiunt of near!}' S-JO. 000. OOO added to the capital del.i of the
Dominion of ( 'anada for siihsidies tothc < Siaiid Truid< Kailway
wiiicli was at the time the\' were L;ian led consideicil a national
undertaking', of with S7,0i'0,000 sulisidies ^ranted to Noxa
Scotia, oi-s:),0(MK000to\i'W Ihiinsw ick, or srj.oOO.OOO lo I'riiu-e
Kdward Island, These are su.nis added to the cajtital of the
DomiiMon, and we a.re iiayiuu, as we all know, fVoiu tiuuriw
;j,i\ en time and auain. more than our just shai'cof the inteiest of
these amounts. It would he ei|ually fair to -•harue (^Mieln'c,
New Ih'unswickaiid Nova Scotia with nearly S.'JO, 00' ",000 that it
took to cunsti'Uct the Intercolonial Hail way, so that I do not
thi)d< these |ieo|)le lia\ e an ai'n'umeiit in tlieii- ta\ m' when they
assume such j)ositions as they ha\e dout ; in a,ny cas»; the
ligures ai'ca^aiirst tlieiir Sui'cly they cannot say they will not he
li'iiidcd h\' the tiu'nres which the\' iiuhlished. and we luive a,
rii^ht t>o assuuK^ that these li^-ui'cs ai'e coi cect. They clearly
sliow that while the l)omiiiiiin ( !o\crumenl continue tlieii' act-
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of'iiiiacv t(>\vju"<ls ihis PioviiicM! tlirv aic assimiiiiL!' a most !iii-
tciialth' position. VV^• luivc iM'torc (Hii- considei'aiidii t.lic ic-
soliitioiis wjiirli have lu'cii a»l(>]>t('(l for tlic gni<laiic(' oi' tlu!
(lcl('H-at('s w'lio aro to j»rocec'(l to Ottawa. This is not tlic Hist
time that the riCgisIatiirc of Ma!iitol»a lias luidertakuii to niv(..
iiistiuctions to L;'ciitl(!muii nitnisti^d witli sucii a position,
rp"" fiiiothcr occasion the hon. ^-enticman wlio movc(l the
lesohitions yesterday move(l similai' resohitioiis. l»ut we have
had occasion to com]>lain nioie than once that they did not
enter into his considci'ation wlieii he nndcirtook to represent
our case at Ottawa, (»r tliatlie did Tiot[)ress tiiem to their ligiti-
mate i-esnh, else we wouM not liave l»een in tlie beggarly posi-
tion w'c are in to-day. I lefo' to tliis, not so mncli to lind
fault at tliis time with that, hon L-'cnth'man as t(» warn the
gentlemen who are nntei'taking tlio task of ropi'esenting Mani-
toba s claims at tlii> moment aiiainst anvthinL;' like avoidiiiii'
the i)r>>trncti(»)i given (»n thi^ occasion. Tliese in.structions.
from the spii-it in wliich the_\ have lieen considered, are snp-
j»oscd to contain Manitoba s ultimatum to the l''e(l(M"al authcn'-
it/ies, Floii. Mr. .Millei- — hear. heai'. ) Tliat fact should not be
lost Mglit of. I inidertake t(»say. as one who assisted in tbiniu-
lating these demands, that the representatives should consider
that these resolutions do so contain the peoples ultimatum. I
tliiid<. Sif. it ha- been clearly ~<hM\\n that we ha\'e at tlie pi'e-
seiit time t"ioMi oui' present .^oui'co of re\-.'inie. about one-liall"
the aniotiiit necessary to meet nui- fair demands ; and I tlinds
that I may he allowed t<i >ay that the estimate to whicli I sliall
refer UKire particulai'ly at a >ul>se(|Uent time, is not an exoi'bit-
ant one for tiie reiiuiretiient- ot" thi- Prox'ince at the present
time. We mi;4'ht take, for instance, the estimates recentlvsub-
mitted to the Nova Scotia lit'^islaturt'.
It is true tlie\- ha\e a largei- popidatiim. but being a com-
l>arati\-ely nld |'r(i\ince. they have not the same demauiU upon
tl
leir i'esouree>. In this "ouiitr\- e\'er\ thinu" i.^ to
be.l
one
kinds n\ 'ill
ic u. ll
Lil'Kl'ie^,
mads, etc.,ha\eto In construct-
ed: aid has to be ^iveii tbi- the |)urpMse of organizing the dif-
ferent mullieipalille.-^ throunlidiit the i-ountr\-. All that wa.^
— 1
done in tlic I'i'nv iiu'c icfcncil tn years jin'o; \it tlirif t'stiinatcs
.•UMollllI III S:):;(;,()(M>, ol- u little ahovc the rstilililtt'S We lia\r ;il
this tiiiK' iM'lorc US. Kiirthi'f than that, the time is vvx near
in tlic histniN of Manitulm whoi
we slia
II
Iriilliri' (|(Hl
)>l(' th
amount \vc rtM|uiit' to-day. I tirnik. in onlcr Im (Icvrloiic pro-
|KM-ly this cduntry, aixi uiidfilnisc sucli \vnik>jis will he neces-
sary, we shall iv((uiie at least S| ,(>()(), 00(t re\enue in a \('r\'
siioi't time. We have at present jusf Mh<'-t(Mirtli nl' that
amount, hence it nuist he (|iiite clear that we a,i'e in a |tnoi-
position ; hut il'oui' claims are eonsideied at all in a iair light,
we need not I'cmain so long. Take toi' nistanee tlie Domitiion
( {overnm(!nt s own assumptinn that we have at the present
time l.")(),()00 souls in Maniioha ; it' we ea,i')'\' this out to the
[)ropei' eoiielusion they should he willing to add to our capital
(at i5"i2.4o ])er head . giving Sl-,S(i4, •')(»(». Deducting the am(»unt
we were entit led to at the first adjustment, S.V)! , 1- 1-7, this, cap-
italized at ti\'e j)t.'r cent., would gi\c additional interest of
.^^l."),?-")-.*!'), or a total income iSvlien added to theauKtiint now
annually i-eceived; of S 1-12. !)()■'). S!). and with other icsources we
nnght reasonahly add, we would he placeil in a position to
o\'ertake the estinuites hofore us. If the revenue fi'om smaller
sources, sucli as the sale of stamps and a few things of that
kind wei'e added to tliis amoiuit, it would c(j\er half a million
dollars. Hut we should calculate at this tin\e so as not to re-
rt)(jnire to enter into tlie consideratiiui of this suhjoet again
\('r\' soon.
It
is not too nuicli to sa\'
takii
It"' into account the
amount of lands in Manitoha still uns(jld. and the amount sold
id applied to I^'edeial |tui'i»oses, that we ai'e entitled to capit-
al
ilizo on
that
acc(
)unt S!(),(>()o,()()(),oihalf the anio\nit estimated
1)\' some ol" my hoiiorahie fiiends oppositt,'. It does appear
straiiiTO that after all the efforts made from INNO to toe pres-
out time it sli'juld he iiecessaiy t(» discuss this (piestion at such
longtii to con\ince those jjeople <if our just claims : yet, from
the despatch hefoie us. from former considerations of this suh-
joot, from all tlu; delays tiiat have heen made and tlu' |>romises
we liave had that, our (daim wouM he taken nito serious con-
siilei'ation, it does appear a most •liflicult task to estahlish it
k;
i
llpnll tllc lllillds of liic |ir(;|i!(> ;it ()ttjl\\il tll.'lt We li;i\(' .'I jllst
clnilll il|i<ill tlli'lll r<iV ;ill Mllli'llUt -^lltHricllt tn lllt'i'l oiir r('S)Ki||-
siliilitics. \Vr coiitcMtl tliMt, if" the pivsnit pulicv is to lie |)iir-
siM'd, the liiiiuls of ( '(iiircilciati'tii must lie liiirst asimiitT. I»iit
\\f iiiiiA' tJikc the ol licr sii'W , that it' tliry art' L("in_if U* piirsiic
tlirir policy n)' ^laifiital ran- o\rr lis, \\r imist lici\<' a li\iii!4",
and can tnstly claim t liat \vr ai'c entitled to a siillicicnt iinutii lit
ti> meet oiir l)ju'e necMssities, at least.
I iiope that my honoi'.ilije iVii-nds opjiosite ai'e siitfioicntly
impressed with tic* impoi-tance ot'thi-^ snliieet, and as we ai"<'
alMMit. ilia lew da\'N. to adjoiii'ii tor thi- piirp(»soor iia\'in,e' oiir
i-epre^entat inns iirij'eil in the proper (|ua.iter, I hope that it will
1.1' lifted in an eiiiphalie manner a-- the tiiial demand.s made
upon t he pe iple a1 0( ta wa, in order to -secure for us the amount
neeessiU'y to maintain our existence a-- a niemlier ot' ( 'ont'tMJ
(■ration. Hear, hear. Tin-- i-^ the only spirit in which it
should he MrL;ed. I only niak" the sii^'^vstion and warn oiir
friends that no such tritlin^ ami dilly ilallyini;' as has heeii
manifested upon this sul/)eet up to the present time will lie
Inline hy the people of Manitoha (cries of (jncsiioii ipiestinn.
from iJie (!o\-crnment hencdies. We (|o not Jiropose tn he
treatcil as children ; 1 think that it is :he feeliiiL;' of the people
i»f Manito'oa, and I think tliere are mature nn-n in Maiiitoha
who are capalije of lookine' alter their own interests ami mean
In do it. ll'tlie peopl.' at ()ttawa do not look after our intei'-
est s the conseipienci's will he feart'ul to ('(intemplate so fai as
one l'ro\ini'e of ( 'onfederation i- concerned. What do we see '
i)urin^' the iccent session of the hoiiiinion Parliament, in
which we have heeii told from day to day that Manitoha's
claims Would he coiisidei'ed ainl her just rii^'hts acceded ti', we
see the I-'ederal < lo\ernmi'nt vntine' in >.iie short session of
three months SSO.OuOOOd. That means Sl>,7()0.()0() as oiir pro-
portion addetl to the capital aecoiintof the honiinion orSl.'i.'),-
0(MI per year wlieii (-apitalised at .'> per cent. Are these not
serioiis <'onse(pienc( s that strike one ver\' h>rcil>l\ at this m,oni-
eiit. when a deht is pileil upon our population of S|S per
head in the-^hort peiiod of' three niotiths' As a <''eiitleman
1
roinai'U'c I id- hiy in cdiUi'iMtinn. tli" I ).iiiiiiii..ii ( luNciiniifiit
may sjiy svlim diii' ir|iiv^iiii;it isc-, ^n p. ()m.iuji Io ii>f .m
lioss-Tu (lisiii), ' W'iiat ;in'yuii L;i'iii'4 ti' il'> aliuut it '" W'fll,
it ilot's ;i|)|)('(ir to nil' US it' t'iiy Iiiim' jll^t t;ikfii tlint position
iii'Ui] ;ill tluj r(^|)r('si!iitat.ioiis tli;it 1i;i\cImm'1i niaili- t<» tlifin
After the Ioiil;' (l('s|(atcli ul" Miin-li, |,s,s:{. ii.uliicli no niiswcr
was ;L;'iN'uii, and that of .laiiiiar\ , jiisl almiit the time tin' I >niii-
inioii House nmt, tii-day that iUfcidUN >tati' |(a|ier (hnvs not
]»i'o|»ose the n'raiit lit" an addil iMii;il didlar to Maiiitolta. W'itli
tJiese tacts hi'l'orc us, \\c sec tliiiii \ ( tt i 1114 a \s ;l\ inillion^ <d
dolhirs to othei' l'ro\ii)i'c> ahcadx too hi;;'hl\ led, and we aie
ealh-fl upon to pa,y our shan-. auil more than our ju-^t piopor-
tioii. When the l.i'^ishit uir luet and \vr saw the manner in
wliieli oui' ehiims wrre hein^- treated, my idea was thai we
slioidd at onee apjteal to the hujierial l'ri\\ ( 'ouneil I *]<>
not Ixdieve hat we sh^ll appeal there in \ain il" this tieat-
ineiit l»e still persisteil in j tliiid< we cin (a->ily show that
we liave Keen treated in >ueli a manner that il would he tai
hetter. it" the tl'eatmellt ispe)^i>ted in. that We slmuld eease to
he a. meinliei- of ( "iint"e(|erat ion. I do not, want I 1 say, and I
shall not say tiiat tiiei'e is a sentiment in Maintoha in laxor <d"
annexation to the cduntry ->iiutli of iis ; I do not heiie\e that
any siudi exists extensively.
I heliesc theic are just as loyal lieart-^ in this l'r(.\ince a>
heiicath the shades of St. .lames' Talaee. liut there is a loynlt\
that comes home, a loyalty to ourselves and the institutions
under which we li\-e There is nothing' in Dritish institutions
tocomptd people to sit sili-ntly under such treatment as tliis.
I tliouglit the time luul arri\ed when we should make an ap-
peal l)e\'ond tine-e pei»|i|cat <)ttawa and that we should lay
our ease t"ull\' at the fool i'\' the tlii'oni-and ^ee if jlritish iii-
stltUtJons reipMled of Un to ^il silently uuder sucll a >tate of
things: and I lie|ie\c now and >ay uiihout hesitation that we
can u'et aloii^ lietter without the people of the east than they
can witlmut u>. \\li;it would this I )ominioii 1m' without Man-
it'iha and the Noitliwe>t I can understand tlie nioti\es which
nui)elled those ineu wlio tVaiued the coU'-t i t u t ioii that under il
_ IH
mi^^lit !•(• ili'jilt iiiit to Jill till- incnilifrs fiiii pliiy: and tlint imdci'
it iiii^'lit lie lioiiiid toLidlirr ((lie ^•I•('at nniinii cxl'iitlinu" IVoiii
tlic sliMivs <.r llic Atlantic to tlir racific I can njxlccstainl
that sentiment, ImiI Iiow can it l>c succrssfiil if tlic majority
arc (Ictci mined tu ^rind d»»s\n tlie minority, is tlieie any rea-
son wliy sve slumld I'c cumiielled to sit (piietl* nndei' it. ! will
illustrate the position Manitoha would (M'(Mi|»y as a, crown col-
nn\', li\' iit'erence to the taiifV that we pay into the Oominioii
tri'asui'y ciKtoms ilut ies npitu i^'ocmIs anionntinij,' to >^ I ,'»'•(),( Kin
amnially. Some will tell us that \\r siiould not take this as a
ciirreet an II Hill estimate, tliat it is ton hi^h, l»eeausi' they say
tiiat in the \ear I haxc selected, the ( ', V II. paiil a lari^'c pm-
tion ol" tlii> amount . Imt. sir. I maintain that instead ol' il>
heinu" toniriMli. tn .>li<i\\ the aniounl actually jiaid l»y our peo-
ple, it is l)i|(iw the marls Coi' the reason that we pay at least
lli'ty pi'i- cent, moll' on o-omls which we consume which are
taken out of liond in < >ntai'ioaiid (^)ueliee Thi> will t'ai' more
than countei'halance anythiiiL: I'aid 1>y the ( '. I*. K., and of
coiiise does not ap|)ear in our fa\oi-, Imt it is creilited to tlu'
two provitiees named. Now what doe>> thi^ show ' Assuming
that the Sinn I ha\e uicutioueil is paid upon an a\era,n'e duty
of twenty-li\c per cent. Wliat do wc find. >ir. with tlie esti-
mates liefoic us ' That We could relieve the people from tWo-
tlnrijs of the ta.\e,^ paid Wy way of coutriliution to the Domin-
iiiion rreasiiiy. and iini the atiairs of the I'roxinee on the re-
maiiMU^ third ; or in otjier word'> l»\ ie\ siiw' a dui\ of eiidit
per cent . instead ot' twenty-H\i', w^e ould derive fiomthis
•source alone ji sntlicient >um to nu'ct our present necessities.
Again, sir. will any per.^on tell me, that with a liheral railway
policy a few yeai'> aLj;'o. when capital was more easily obtained
than at j»resent. if then we iiad Iteen allowed th<' free exereiNC
of oiM' privilege to chartei' lines in \ario\i^ direction.-, and had
oecu alloweil the u>e of re>ouri'es which Were naturalK' ours
for the piM'pose of .•>ul isiili/jnu :,ueh liue^,. that we Would not
ha\e had to-(ha\' a I'erfV'ct network of railways tln'oiediout the
Proxince. and inii^ht .-<o(in have Jimud ourseKes in a similai'
posiii,,M to oiir frii'uds to the south of us. The state of Min-
II-
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iM's(»tji. with licr extensive iMilwuy system, if ue IdiiI HUo|ilei|
tlieii' system ol' tnxiiiii' iJiilwaAs, we mi'-lit imw he i|eii\ iiiu m
\ii\'^i\ leNcmie fVnm tilut ^kiiici-, In iliut slate ii|Hiii a tax ••!'
.*) |i((r eeiii. ii|)i)ii railway e)ii'iiinn> tiny leeeive aiimiully ><>iiie
S(i()0,(M)(l. We are ile|»ii\ei| n\' mn resdiiice^ ,-iiiil tul»| tliat
f'cfroiun ea|»ital shall n(»t eoine in ti> hiiiltl the line«^ uf lailuuy
we Sn nnich neeil. The^e Jill' >i>mi' nj'thi' llildlt
e.N W e ale |»aS'
ini; tt> I he Lii'anW scheme of ( 'i»nle(|eiati(iii. Il it i> tn l>e a >-iie
cess tliele milst he ninic thaii sentiment It' liind it In^etheiaiKJ
Ituihl il ii|»; there must he a^ well, sir, unity (»f intcri'st.s.
^'et We are tnM hy s(inie that we nIidiiIiI nitt cuniiilnin ;
hilt I am L^lail t(» tind they are hut lew, and that the |ieii|(Ie
and their r(!|iresentati\('s ha\ e at last heeome iiniteil ii|ii)ii a
ediimiiin demand wiiieh they jn'opitse fn make in the interests
(tithe eiiiMitry. I WKiild speak with a \uiee id" thmidef if I
could as a wan;iiiL;tit the anthniities that they j^ro nut luo far.
a-iid 1)1' what will ha|»|ten il tiny resist a iinite(| jieiiple siieli as
liaxfin Manitnha tn-da\. ( A|>|>laiise.) We are told h\
we
le ''1 'o< I old I la\ 111
sdiiK.' to Lj;'n s|(»w, and we are reinindt'd ol" tl
( )ntari(», w hen uiir latlier> wi'iit iiitn the tnrests, and lieL^an
with litM! and axe, and iiia.de thi'inseKi's humes ; wi' are tnid
that they were in the tiii>li, and worked anmn^' the' -~liiiii|is tor
'2'^ years withont a railway. We will tell those iieople that we
lia\'e acoiintry more easily de\elo|ie(|, and oiie that I'or that
reason re<|llires niol'e at the ^tait to (le\e|(>|ie it. We do not
|»i'oj»ose to i;o sluw ly We did not ei me away from ()iitar!o
lor the ]inr|>ose ol !^'oiii^ slow, nor with any idia ol'^oin^ haek
a half a century in the march of civili/ation and ucneral
adxaiiceiiient. that has heeii made since the days of <>\iv lioy
hood. We came ht.'re with a riill eoii\iction that life is short,
and we want to accoiii|ilisli as much as we can ami take ad\aiit -
i^'c ot all the impioN (•nieiits made sim
. \> to de\'eio|»e
Manitolia as rajiidly as we can and make it the first I'idvince
(d'the Dominion. If we ^Ct the resources we olie'ht to Iia\(',
wc will set such an exaniph' of progress hefore the otlier Pro\-
iiicc's as will [istonish tiieiii I repeal (hat iii\ policy \sas to
"•o to the foot lif the throne, hut as we lia\f in the despatch
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uiinllici' iinlirati'Mi iliiit llii> luatli!' will I'" liikni iiiMltr tlir
sfiimis coiisifii'iariiiii ul ;i cniniuissinii, I iiin wiHiiii^Mluil iIm'V
sliuiiM Imvi' aiiMtJiiT it|»|( irliiiiity : I'lit I iIumw ^nt tlir^r itjnis
t.tsliuw llial \si' \\H\r Moiiit'tliiiiu' w<' can ;u'.(iiii|»lisli in aiiMtlirr
«|iiai'lcr if tlial cM ninr inn^t he ailMptcil Tlir .•>! imalfs Itcloic
Us iiHJicatc tlint tlir lAiMiiilil iiiv dl iJir l*i ..\iiicM must ncrcs-
sarilv iiHTcasr. If we cunipair i» with that <A' last yrai' «>f tlic
\i'ai' hctniv, \\r shall tiinl tin- i'>;iH'iisr cuMf iiniall v iiicfi'asiii:;,
ami it is l.iit i.atiii'al that it shonM l.r s.. r..r a (iiiK-, as \\.>iks
Mr\aii<»iis kiiiijs lia\c \n he iiii'lcitakni A <(»iiii>afati\t' stalf-
lllt'llt nt'llir |VC.i|its ailii r\|i(||(|ltlll(- Im| |S.SJ-:> W i 1 1 sl|(»W ill
what latin ihr "lilfcifiii lica'l^ lia\r iiirivasiMJ : licni>la,ti<tii
i.ssi>. ><i';{,s7(i .')•; ; ls.s:{ srio.ini.iiii ; iii.-i.-as.v s(i,2l.'M:{, of
iirailv •><» I
Ml Cl
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(iuvrnilllrlit, ISS-_V S2!»,S(i!).i:)
ISS.'^, s:)l.,lUS.i>!> ; iiiciN-a>f, S-J-VO l-S.S I-, l.cin;^ in'ariy '.Miimt
i-riit. A.liiiiiiistratioii of jusficr, ISS2. s-J,S.2()(;,.'>(i ; Inn:;, Sdi',-
IT-S.OS; iiii'ivasr, S.S.").!)| I .')!], (.r I2(» yn rfnt. Kilucation. ISS-J,
S:)o,(i+.').<;L': ISN.S, S.")l,:{:)4.;ls ; iucf vsc, Sl7.7«>s.7(i. nr (ivcr .■)()
|MM' ii'iii I )iiiiiutL't,' increase I'! |itr rr\\\. ( Ion cniiiifiil aiil,
Issl', s|(i,i;{(i,7s ; isn:;, s.h.o^l'. 4:i ; incivas.'. s:;,s,ii( ».').( ;K "i
i'2.*) |..T .Tilt. T..tal, ISM. SL'4-:{,<i;;:) ; is.sii, ^:{s:i,-J7(> ; iHs:;,
s.')(k;. :{!>!) M\ Iimm. IVifii.i thinks that the t'stiiiiatcs have imw
art'
lal
ixt'il at a statiuiiarv aiiiniint . init Iain alVai'l he tides nitl
<(■ cxftct l\ t hi- I'onci-t |Mi,siti<iii.
I
am aJVaiil tiial as in t he hislnrx
DUi I'tlicr countries
they will cMiit iiiiie to ineivase a^ the want> ami iiuiiiIkts ol"
(he jteople increase. As the Premier has stated to L;'el a ^Teal
increase ol' |)n|)ulat ii»ii under existinu' eircumstances is nut
desirahlc. Still, tho ( i<»\eriunent in its |iaternal care over Us
ice
continues issuing |»am|»lilets and di»inu w hat it can to indii
|iiMi|)|e tn cuiiM,' here. I llDpe tli<' (ioNeriiniellt will de\'ise some
ihcaiis hy w hich jn'oiile eomiiiL: here may, at least a ])ortion ol
them, lie retained within t he liiuits of t he l'lo\iiiee. The*'. V.
II. has heeii huilt so last that w<' find people taking tho raiU
wa,y ami going to the west of us. so that we are imt derising
the lieiielit W {' sholl Id gel When We g(M sullicicnl resoll I'Cf.'S
the ( io,eriimeiit should :ii|o|it means to ii'taiii a certain per-
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I'clltU^t' nriliiisc wild ruliir, 11^ \\ , li;i\f a lai^v aiil'Mlil i>\ \ a<
iiii( laiKh, uinl a> ^iuMMilatoi^ aif w illiiii^ !<• sell | ;iiii |ti<Mii|
n\' tliis lilt iiiiati nil. lircaiiM- il oiiilinii^ sfiil iintiits w lii li | |ia\ "•
i'ii((<i'taiti*-)i lui' a liiii^tiiiH'. linn |iiiiii(| w r Imvc |iiit it !i> one
of t lir rii^'liis mI' ilir I'liiviiM f lit Maiiit'ilia tn cliaitrr rmr-i.l
railway tVnin iiiiv <>\\i- yu\\\\ Id Miiotlicr [Hiini i\r(|ti a> liinilid
l»V till' Art (it'lssj I am l;I.i'I llic ( lo\rriiiiifiit lia^ |ii'n|Mi>ii|
Id rail at trill idii Id tin I'art dl llic lii^li iliitii-s lirini;' |iirjinli('ia|
Id the ililrrcsl.s d(" t lie |Hd|i|r dftliis I'lUNilicc It is a vicldiA
I'dl- I lie |icd|i|i' d|' Maililnltil ln'Ciillsc tlirrt' i> l|d mistak ilii; I jjcii
sfiiliiiiciits tliiil tiiry, tliidn;_:li llicii |)i.i|Mily i|iialili<'(| ir|in'-
sciitati\<'s. lias (• r\|iirsM'i| I liciiiM'K r> iniaiiiiiidiisly, witlidiu a
dissnitiiin \(ii<T, in liisdi- ol' tlir iiriiifi|i|(-> (•iiinicja.tcil in ihr
Hill III" |{iLClit>'. Willi lliCNc a<rdi(lt<il Id ii.s, as tin y iniist Im'
acciinhd, \* »' vsill >lnt\v licic a l'rd\iiii-t' di \ rld|pt'il a> iid diln i
IMdsiiicc lias 'lex cldpcil. A-^ liisidiy has rr|ifati.'<| itsril", sd wc
shall liaN'c a pc i|ilc raisctl ii|i that l>\(; ami \>\r mas |M'rlia)'s
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