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A CONTROVERSY
Between the Rev. Father Egan, Thornhill, andrtheJRev.
Mr. Percival, Presbyterian Minister, Richmond Hill.
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CONTENTS.
Chaptbr I.— Father Egan maintains that the Catholic
Church does not teach that " The End Justifies
the Means." 1
Chapter II.— Eev. Mr. Percival on Roman Dogmatics.... 4
Chapter III. — Roman Dogmatics answered and Father
Egan warns Mr. Percival against u sing second hand
quotations g
Chapter IV.— Rev. Mr. Percival accuses Father Egan of
using Side Issues, and charges the Catholic Church
with opposition to the Word of God in the vulgar
tongue 14
Chapter V. — Father Egan answers the charge of raising
Side Isssues, calls upon Mr. Percival to prove his
statements and detects his fraudulent quotation of
the PapalBrief 19
Chapter VI.— Rev. Mr. Percival's definition of a Jesuit.
He gives a Chronology of their banishments, and
urges several grave charges against them 25
Chapter VII.— Father Egan still ask for Proofs, and
explains the cause of the hostility of Infidels and
others to the Jesuits 29
Chapter VIII.— Rev. Mr Percival discourses on the use of
Relics in the Ca>:-olic Church 37
Chapter IX. — Father Egan resolves to no longer stand
on the defensive, but to see how Presbyterianism
will stand being attacked 40
Chapter X. — ^Father Egan deals with Mr Percival's
authorities, and opens his attack on Presbyterian
Doctrine and Intolerance 42
Chapter XI. — Kev. Mr. Percival discourses on Mental
Bestriction as taught and practised in the Catholic
Church 48
Chapter XII. — Father Egan exposes Mr. Percival'suaeof a
condemned Proposition, and challenges him to an
Oral discussion 53
Chapter XIII. — Rev. Mr. Percival gives reasons for refusing
. an Oral Discussion and enters on the Beward
business 62
Chapter XIV. — Father Egan deals with Mr. Percival's
ideas of a gentleman, and assails the Westminster
Confession 65
Chapter XV. — The Westminster Confession and what it
logically leads to 69
INTRODUCTION.
Some months ago, and during the heat of the controversy
which arose m the country in respect to the Jesuits and their
teaching, the Rev. Mr. Percival, the incumbent of the Presbyterian
Church at Richmond Hill, attributed to the Jesuits, inthecourseof
one of his sermons, the doctrine, or maxim, that the end justifies
the means. The statement was contradicted a day or two later
as untrue and unfounded, by the Rev. Father Egan ofThornhill
in a letter which he addressed to the Richmond Hill Liberal
To this the Rev. Mr. Percival answered that it was susceptible
of proof, and that he was prepared to affirm that "not merely
the Jesuit Society but the Roman Catholic Church, whatever
may be their theory on the subject, have only too often, by their
actions, given sad proof that they do believe in the doctrine that
the end does justify the means." The controversy that followed
is published in full in these pages, and the letters of each "
disputant are given without comment, and without addition
or emendation, but in the order, and in the manner in which
they originally received publication. They are submitted to the
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public without further explanation, and without anythinp; in the
way of supplementary argument. The attention which iH at
present being manifested in the Dominion in regard to all that
pertains to the Jesuit (Question, the importance of the point
involved in the dispute, the directness with which the disputants
join issue, and the somewhat wide interest which their letters
attracted, has led to the publication of the controvrgy in a
permanent form.
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CONTROVERSY
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CHAPTER I.
The Catholic Church does not Teach that the End
Justifies the Means.
I am informed on credible authority that in one of his
recent lectures on the Jesuit question, Eev. Mr. Percival has at-
tributed to that learned and illustrious society of Catholic Priests
the doctrine that the end justifies the means.
I may say at once that the Jesuits teach nothing that is con-
trary to the doctrines of the Catholic Church. The doctrine
that the end justifies the means is wicked, and is repudiated alike
by the Jesuits and the entire Catholic Church. I am told that
Mr. Percival gave some proofs to substantiate^ his charge against
the Jesuits, and the teachings of the Catholic Church ; proofs,
no doubt satisfactory to himself and to his audience, and claim-
ing to be from the writings of the Jesuits.
I presume Mr. Percival never saw the passages in the original
from which he took these proofs ; and erred, like the rest of that
credulous crowd, in pinning his faith to the sleeves of his fellow-
workers against the Church and the Jesuits. He trusted that
his audience would take his mere word for any anti-Catholic
statement he might make, and he has rewarded them by abusing
their confidence, and deceiving them.
The error is a serious one. A minister of the gospel, as he
claims to be, should have had a little more discretion — and I
may add, a little more conscience. It might be well for him to
take a lesson out of the moral theology taught by these wicked
Jesuits, and endorsed by the Church. They say it is a grievous
sin, not only to slander another, but also to deliberately expose
one's self to tb-^ danger of slandering him, by recklessly and with-
out due inquiry accusing him of teaching what is blaspheraouc?
and subversive of the Ten Commandments. And the slander
acquires a tenfold intensity when such a doctrine is attributed,
not to one individual, but to thousands of men consecrated to
God, and in whose holy lives even a hostile world finds no matter
for reprcfach.
It is a proud distinction for the Jesuits that their enemies find
no valid weapons against them, and are compelled to resort to
falsehood and slander. They are in this point faithful represen-
tatives of the Church of Christ at this day, as she is of the pri-
mitive Church of the Apostles. Are our Protestant friends aware
that they are repeating against us the identical slanders that
were hurled against the Church in the days of St. Paul ? Then
the wicked Jews and lying Pagans charged her with holding the
maxim, that evil may be done for a good purpose. — Rom. iii. 8.
I call upon the Eev. Mr. Percival to prove from their own
writings, not by second-hand quotations, that the Jesuits teach
that " the end justifies the means." It will not do to quote gar-
bled texts from the Encyclopedia Britannica, or Chambers' En-
cyclopedia, or the infidel Paul Bert, or Littledale, or any but
one of their own authors, where the context may also be seen.
I shall leave the decision to any two professors of Latin, Protes-
tants at that, in the University of Toronto. Let him obtain this
decision and I shall surrender the entire case. Mind, isolated
texts will not do. It must be shown that the Jesuits teach this,
doctrine, or even its equivalent, from their own authors ; not-
from authors or authorities which have been manufactured for
them.
I have now before me the Text Book of Mora) Theology, used
in our Seminaries. It is by a Jesuit (Gury) . I shall give a spe-
cimen of his theology on the subject : —
Omnis clectiomali medii est mula; sed non e C(mrersin,onunselectio
honi medii est positive bona. This is the very contradictory of the pro-
position, the end justifies the means.
To prove this the quotation is sometimes made — Finis detenni-
nat prohitatim. actus. This does not mean " the end justifies the
means. " It means the end determines the probity of the action —
and from the context it will be seen that the author is referring
to actions indifferent, or at least not bad in themselves, for if
the action is malum in se, no end can justify it as we have seen
above.
The mistakes that are made in attributing false doctrines to
the Catholic Church are not always the result of ignorance or
neglect. They are very often deliberate misstatements, ranging
from the supprrsdo veri to downright mendacity.
Who has not heardthat Catholics are not allowed to read the
Bible '? That Catholics adore images, and are consequently
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idolaters, and all that kind of thing ? Why, a priest or a nun
cannot, since this crusade commenced, walk the streets of To-
ronto without being insulted. And all this in the interest of true
r el if I ion I
Take my word for it the day will come when this state of things
will bring a reaction, and the reaction has more than commenc-
ed. When thinking Protestants will ask themselves, " Cannot
our ministers attack the Catholic Church without misrepresent-
ing her? " They will ask themselves, " Does the end justify
the means'? "
Has Itev. Mr. Percival addressed even a mild rebuke to the
"hampions of Protestantism who piously raided the Catholic
celebratorsof St. Patrick'sDay, ai;d smashed the windows of Cath-
olic institutions for the love of God ? 01 1 ! I forgot that would
not be in accord with equal rights, or civil and religious liberty,
for which he is now clamouring.
It is something refreshing to find Protestants, and especially
Presbyterians, with the sad recollection of the Penal laws fresh
in our minds, talking about civil and religious liberty. I am of
opinion that Eev. Mr. Percival's idea of civil and religious lib-
erty would be, to have the Penal Code revived.
That the Jesuits teach, and that the Catholic Church holds,
this wicked doctrine, is false. This statement has been made in
our midst, and I cannot let it go uncontradicted. W^e will see
whether the Rev. Mr. Percival will come to the test which I have
proposed, and which I think no one will think unreasonable ; or
like a gentleman admit that he has been deceived.
I value the esteem of my Protestant fellow citizens for myself,
and tny co-religionists ; for the latter especially, who in many in-
stances are dependent for a living on the good will of their Pro-
testant employers. The doctrine that " the end justifies the
means " would justify Catholics in deceiving, robbing and even
murdering their employers and benefactors, provided, for ex-
ample, they thought it was for the cjood of the Church.
I appeal to the good sense of Protestants themselves. Is this
their experience of their Catholic neighbors and employes? Peo-
ple are very seldom better than they profess to be, and Catholics,
neither in theory nor in practice, follow this rule. AVhy then re-
peat and perpetuate this cry again? t them ? There are Catho-
lics in this neighborhood who had established for themselves
among their Protestant neighbors reputations for upright and
honorable integrity, of which Rev, Mr. Percival with his quasi
eloquent slanders cannot deprive them.
I am afraid, Mr. Editor I have trespassed too much on your
valuable space, but I shall watch Mr. Percival's answer, and
perhaps soon ask you for more.
J. J. Egan.
Thornhill, March 2Gth, 18H9.
CHAPTER 11.
ROMAN DOGMATfCS.
REV. UR. PBRCIVAL DfiNIBS HAVING SAID 80, BUT STILL MAINTAINS
THAT I HE CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES IHAT
DOCTRINE.
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In your issue of March 28th, I observe a communication
over the signature of "J. J. Egan, Thornhill. " I presume
that this is the Kev. J. J. Egan, Roman Catholic Priest. In this
communication the writer attacks me for making certain state-
ments, of which he says he has been informed on " credible au-
thority. " In other words, on the stretH/tli of mere hearsay, he has
rushed with Hibernian valor right into the thickest of the fray,
content to fall if need be so long as he falls fighting for glory.
Poor fellow ! He is actually " spilin ' for a fight, " and must
find a foe somewhere, even if he has to travel a long distance
out of his way to do so.
Now, what are the facts ot the case ? Simply these : I preached
a sermon, in my own church, and to my own people, on the
" Jesuit Question. " I did not consult Rev. J. J. Egan before
doing so, nor submit my sermon to him for inspection and ap-
proval. Probably this slight upon my part has made him mad.
But Mr. Egan forgets that a short time before he imported a
clergyman from Toronto to discuss this same Jesuit Question in
his church at Thornhill. With regard to what was said upon
that occasion, I do not know, for unlike Mr. Egan, I have not
been "' informed on credible authority, " and what's more, I don't
care. But some way I had the idea that this question, like most
other questions, had two sides to it, and as he had, through the
aid of another, presented one side, I certainly thought I might
venture to follow his example, and direct the attention of my
people to the other side. He is, therefore, in a great measure
responsible for my touching the subject at all.
I do not for a moment question the rh/ht of Mr. Egan to rush
into print in the manner in which he has done, but I question
very much the wisdom of doing so, p,nd, perhaps, he will have
some serious doubts in the same direction before I am done with
him.
A newspaper discussion is, to me personally, very distasteful,
but when I am thus grossly assailed, there is no other alternative
but to submit to the inevitable.
I wish also to call the attention of your readers to another
fact, and it is this : To my remarks upon the subject I confined
myself exclusively to it. I dealt simply with the Jesuit Question,
and said nothing at all about the Eoman Catholic Church. Mr.
Egan, however, has gone beyond the narrow limits of the ques-
tion proper, and charges me with attacking the Catholic Church,
for he says that " the Jesuits teach nothing; that is contrary
to the doctrines of the Catholic Church. " He therefore makes
the Catholic Church responsible for the teaching and practice of
the Jesuit Order. It is well to bear this fact in mind, for I may
call upon him by and l)y to explain to your readers how it came
to pass that an infallible Pope, the Supreme Head of the Cath-
olic Church, should curse, with " bell, book and candle, " this
same " learned and illustrious society of Catholic Priests. " Was
it for teaching " doctrines that were in harmony with the Cath-
olic Church ? " We may enquire a little more fully into the mat-
ter in the future.
I would also remind your Roman Catholic readers, that if, in
this discussion (provided it goes on), their feelings should be
slightly hurt, they must thank the Rev. J. J. Egan for it, for
assuredly I should never have discussed the question in the
papers, had he not, by his injudicious attsicli, forced me to it. For
many of them personally I entertain the greatest respect, and
would be the last man to cause them needless pain. In this dis-
cussion I will carefully discriminate, in any statements, 1 may
make, between them and the peculiar dogmas of the church to
which tljey belong, and to which no doubt many of them are con-
scientiously attaclied. I shall deal with prinrij)h'fi, not with jx'f-
sons. When I am done, whatever they may think of me, one
thing I know, that my opinion of them as citizens will be just the
same as it was before I began.
Now, the main charge that Mr. Egan prefers against me is
that I advocated the doctrine that the Jesuits believed and prac-
tised the doctrine " that the end justifies the means, " and also
" that I gave some proofs to substantiate this charge against the
Jesuits, and the teachings of the Catholic Church. " All this he
has been informed " on credible authority. " It is a pity for him-
self that his " authority " was not a little more " credible. " In
reply to all this I have simply. to state, tJiat it in not true. I did
nothing of the kind. What I did do was simply to direct attention
to a letter that appeared in the Mail of the 5th of March, in
which the writer quotes some passages, among the rest the follow-
ing, from " Busembaum's Medulla Theologiie : " — " Ciiiu finis
est lieitKs etiam media sunt lieeta. " Also from same autlior :
" Cui lieitus est finis etiani lieent media. " From "• Laymen's
Theologire Moralis, " as follows : — " Cui eoneessus est finis, eon-
eessa etiani sunt media ad fine m ordinata. " From " Wageman's
Synopsis Theologite Moralis, " as follows ; — "Finis determinat
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prohitafcni orlnn. " From these passaji^Gs the writer in the Mail,
from \vl)()!ii J (juoted, contended that he is justified in fastening
this (liiiholical doctrine upon the Jesuits. As to whether he is
correct or not, I will allow Mr. Ef^an to li^ht the matter out with
him when and how lie pleases. Mr. Efjjan mai itains that th- e
passaj^'es, when taken in connection with their context, are cap-
ahle of an entirely diiferent interpretation. I am not disposed to
question the correctness of this statement. In fact I am quite
prepared to helieve, as Mr. Egan's statements would seem to
imply, that auihujuitfj is one of the principal excellences of Jesuit-
ical authors. Mr. E jean's rendering of the last passage, from
" Wageraann : " — " Finia (Jcicnidnat prohitafhx actus, " furnishes
a very good illustration of this. He says, " this does not mean
that the end justifies the means. If means the end (letenninesthe
jirohitu of an action. '' This, I suhmit, is a distinction without
much difference. In any case the end has something to do with
the act. He then goes on to state, " from the context it will be
seen that the author is referring to actions indifferent, or at least
not had in themselves. " Well, w^hat of all that '? How does all
that talk affect the statement that " the end does determine the
probity of an. act? " To say the least regarding it; there is cer-
tainly considerable ambiguity here. However, I need not spend
time in discussing this point. I never made this particular charge
against the writers of the Jesuit Society, and besides it is to me
a matter of great indifference as to what they may teach in their
text books — it is to me a question of much greater importance
to know how they stand in the light ofhistory, in relation to every
country in which they have obtained a foot-hold. " Actions speak
louder than words, " and I am prepared to atHrm and m'intain
that not merely the Jesuit Society, but the Roman L.ctholic
Church, whatever may be their theory on the subject, have only
too often by their actions given sad proof that they do believe in
the doctrine that the end does justify the means. We shall see as
we proceed.
It is certainly quite refreshing to read the homily Mr. Egan
has administered to me for what he considers the very lament-
able lack of those two very important commodities, discretion and
conscience. I hope I am found duly thankful. Of course, it never
for a moment strikes Mr. Egan that in the publication of this
precious effusion of his that he is affording the public a very good
illustration that as far as the first mentioned commodity is con-
cerned he is certainly not blessed with a superabundance of it.
I will not pass judgment on his conscience as he has on mine.
Mr. Egan says, " that people are very seldom better than they
, profess to be." This is quite true ; yet it is also equally true that
they sometimes profess to be much better than they are. When
I hear Rev. J. J. Egan giving vent to such strong expressions of
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affection and e.steem for " his Protestant friends, " I am forcibly
reminded of this : — If these expressions are true, then all I have
to say is, that he is much better than his creed.
Mr. Egan states that at present " a priest or a nun cannot
walk the streets of Toronto without being insulted. " in reply
1 simply state that I don't believe him.
He wants to know also why 1 did not address " a mild rebuke
to the champions of Protestentism, who piously raided the cele-
bj-ators of St. Patrick's day, and smashed the windows of Catho-
liii institutions for the love of God'? " I did not do so simply
because none of them belonged to my congregation, or were even
likely to be guilty of such conduct. If he wants to know what
my opinion is concerning those young men who are charged with
committing that offence, I can very soon give it to him. If guilty,
I believe that their actions were wrong, and deserving of punish-
ment. Yet, Mr. Egan must not lose sight of the fact that their
conduct is not for a moment to be compared to the cold-blooded
murder of poor Hackett, in the streets of Montreal, a few years
ago, by a Roman Catholic mob, or the cold-blooded murder of
some six or seven Orangemen in the streets of Harbor Grace, N.
F., some live or six years ago, when every one of the murderers
was allowed to go unwhipt of justice by a Roman Catholic jury,
in the face of the most damning evidence. I suppose Mr. Egan
will admit that this was all done to " for the glory of God ! " It
was very improper to break window glass, but it was very much
worse to commit murder.
Rev. Mr. Egan has been pleased to make an exhibition of him-
self before the public, and forfeiting his claim to be recognized
as a (fentlcman, by descending to scurrilous i)ersonalities. He calls
me " a quasi eloquent slanderer !" There is a lot of argument
in that kind of talk, isn't there ? I am sorry for this, for the
public were beginning to look upon him again as a gentleman. If
Mr. Egan goes on with this discussion I would advise him to
leave personalities, severely alone for the future.
In conclusion I wish to inform Rev. J. J. Egan that if he wishes
to enter into a discussion of this Romish question, I shall be
quite happy to accommodate him. He started it and he can have
it continued if he wishes it. For the present,
Yours in defence of truth,
W. W. Percival,
The Manse, Richmond Hill, April 3, 1889.
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CHAPTER ill.
ROMAN DOGMATICS ANSWERED.
FATHER EGAN PROOVES TO THE CONTRARY, AND WARNS MR,
PERCIVAL AGAINST SECOND-HAND
QUOTATIONS.
Having seen Rev. Mr. Percival's letter, headed " Roman
Dogmatics," I natm'ally expected to find an elaborate disserta-
tion on one subject of Dogmatic Theology. To my utter surprise,
however, I find that in so far as it was connected with Theology
at all, it referred altogether to another department, namely.
Moral Theology, or Ethics. Anyonewhohasever studied the very
preliminaries of Theology would have know this distinction, and
it is not a distinction without a difference either. However, I
shall let this pass over. He has fallen into more serious blunders
than this, as I sliall soon show.
He says that the report that he attributed to the Jesuits th&
doctrine "that the end justifies the means," is not true. In the
next sentence, however, he tells us he simply directed attention
to a letter which appeared in the Mail, on March 5th.
This I presume he did to refute the wicked Mail, defend the
Jesuits from its vile attacks, and show that they liad no such
wicked doctrine. The report then after all is not very untrue.
For what purpose, I would ask, did he call attention to this ar-
ticle in the ^[ail if he did not mean to endorse it'? In another
place he remarks that after all the end has something to do with
the act. Who denies this ? But with the context it is altogether
di^fferent from the sense he would put on it. He says at least
it is obscure. It ma}' be so to some, but to a theologian or philoso-
pher, it is quite clear. But even if it were ol)scure. a truly chari-
table person would be disposed to give it a liberal interpretation,
and not even suspect others of holding doctriner> subversi /e of
air morality and social order, till the proof was so clear that there
was no alternative.
Is this a manly way of getting out of the difficulty ? Let him
come to the test like a man, and prove it, or give it up without
an}' of this Uriah Heap sneaking way of beating round the bush.
He says that I make the Catholic Church responsible for the
teachings and practice of the Jesuits. Certainly, the Jesuits are
as amenable to the authority of the Church as any other of her
subjects, and he, before undertaking to lecture on the Jesuit
question, should have known as much. He will, perhaps, be
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rather surprised at this admission, but it is a new illustration, of
the old saying that " a little learning is a dangerous thing, "
and especially to persons undertaking to give public lectures on
subjects about which they know little or nothing.
He asks me to account for the fact of an infallible Pope curs-
ing the Jesuits with bell, book and candle. The question im-
plies that he considers it a fact that a Pope did curse the Jesuits.
Will the rev. gentleman furnish us with the authentic proof that
the Pope did curse the Jesuits at all ? Will he give us the authen-
tic proof that the Pope, if he did curse at all, used a book, a bell,
or a candle in this imprecatory operation ? If he cannot prove
the existence of this curse, let him not, for the time to come, sign
himself " Yours in defence of truth. "
I have already warned the rev. gentleman against the danger
of second hand quotations. When a writer quotes from an author
something as evidence, he should know for certain the truth of
his quotation. When something is invented for the author, when
his sense is perverted, either by additions, omissions, or garblings,
then the proceeding is entitled literary forgery. And when this
is exposed in a controversy, either political, literary, or religious,
the individual who is thus convicted is regarded, by men of high
honour, as hors dc conihaf. He is done. Neither is it enough to
say that the forgery was copied, and was not o)-iginal. The man
at the mercy of second authority should be very cautious.
The Mail has published an alleged oath of the Jesuits. The
Mail, which copies the oath, now stands for doing oo, procecuted,
and held to account before the law of the land. The Mail itself
has admitted that the oath cannot be proved to exist. The decree
by which it is made to appear that the Pope " has cursed the
Jesuits with bell, book and candle, " and condemned them, will
probably be found also — not to exist. Has the rev. gentleman
ever read the burlesque excommunication of Tristham Shandy ?
This is the meaningless verbiage to which people are treated. How
long are these fabrications of iniquity to do service in the cause
of intolerance ?
The rev. gentleman gives to his Catholic readers a timely warn-
ing, that if their feeling are hurt by his discussion of their
" peculiar (lof/mas, " they may thank Eev. J. J. Egan for it. H"
the dogmas of flicir church are correctly represented, their feelings
will not be hurt ; if not correctly represented, it will be my duty
to see to it.
Again he says : He is not disposed to question the correctness
of my statement when I say that the texts given to pi'ove the
doctrine attributed to the Jesuits, " the endjustiiies the means, "
are capable of an entirely different interpretation. Then he con-
tradicts himself and says : " In fact I am quite prepared to be-
lieve, as Mr. Egan's statement would seem to imply (I did not
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imply that), that ainhi(/iiif/f is one of the principal excellencies of
the Jesuitical authors. " Mr. Egan's rendering]; of the last passage
from Waj^eman, * Finis (h'tcrmivai pmhitatem actus,' furnishes
a very good illustration of this. He says this does not mean that
* the end justilies the means, ' it means ' the end determines the
prohity of an action.' I submit this is a distinction without a
difference. " I, on the other hand, submit therein a ureat differrnee
connected as I said with an action indifferent, or at least not
bad in itself, to procure an end, from placing an action bad in it-
self to procure an end. I shall illustrate my meaning by an
example : — One man, desirous of giving in charity, labors at his
ordinary avocation to procure the necessary means. Here his work,
which, as to its moral aspect, may be inditTerent in itself, derives
merits from the good end in view. Another man wishes to give
in charity, but in order to procure the means he commits murder
and robery. The good end in view does not justify these actions,
which are bad in themselves, for as I quoted before : — " Omtiis
electro mall medii est mala sed non a converso omnis electio boiii
mcdii es positira bona. " Translation : — " Every choice of evil
means is evil, but not every choice of good means is good. " So
the rev. gentleman calls this a " distinction without a difference."
If he has no intelligence to perceive a difference, he is not com-
petent to lecture on the subject, or if perceiving the difference he
has not the candour to admit it, the case is still worse. I leave
himself to decide.
And the rev. gentleman goes on : — " Actions speak louder than
words, and I am prepared to affirm and maintain that not merely
the Jesuit Society, but the Roman Catholics, whatever may be
their theory on the subject, have only too often by their actions
given sad proof that they do believe that ' the end does justify
the means.' " This all seems like childish prattle. There is no
sense in it. Surely the rev. gentleman does not mean it for ar-
gument. An}' school boy knowing the rudiments of logic
must be aware that we cannot proceed from the particular to the
universal, that is to say, from particular cases we cannot make a
general charge. But methinks I perceive here a hint at a threat
that if I should continue this thing he will expose all the abomi-
nations of Romanism. These have been now so often exposed by
Chiniquy, Maria Monk, Widdows, Fulton, &c., that I don't care.
In fact I am quite desperate on these points. In fact I think I
shall be able from Presbyterian sources alone to balance these
accounts when the test of historical truth can be applied, and in
every case the part of the Toronto University faculty who are
Protestant will be the judges. I know that the Catholic repre-
sentation there is not very large. Catholic and Jesuit aggression
not having yet gone so far as to monopolize that institution. We
have a good deal to be thankful for that we are allowed to live.
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There was a time when, in a certain country and under the Brit-
ish constitution, the hiw did not suppose the very existence of a
Cathohc. But these were in the days of riril and irliiiimis lihcrti/,
not hke these degenerate days when Cathohcs and even Jesuits
can enjoy Hherty Hke other people.
How humihating to men of the J. L. Hughes stamp and the
bigots of the Ministerial Association, the results of the late vote.
They have raist;d the No Popery cry from one end of the land to
the other. The outcry has resounded from pulpit and press ; its
notes were fierce and sanguinary. They were worthy of the pal-
miest days of Titus Oates, Lord Gordon, or the Pigotists of the
present day — all inihued with the deepest hatred of the members
of the Catholic Church. When we reflect how untiring are the,
men engaged in this crusade, how many complexions it has as-
sumed, now boasting of their zeal for the purity of religion, now
parading their solicitude for our noble constitution, now threat-
ened with destruction by an insidious foreign influence, when we
reflect how unscrupulous are the men engaged in it, how many
glaring untruths they have boldly published, both from pulpit
and press, how many base forgeries, now known to be such, are
unblushingly perpetrated in the full light of day, and with the
enlightenment of the 19th century beaming in their faces, when
we reflect upon all this we are thankful that all they could ac-
complish was to inflame the passions of the ignorant to hate their
Catholic neighbors, and the ruffianly element to march at night
playing insulting party tunes and wrecking Catholic institutions.
But when it came to influencing the better and more enlightened
portion of our citizens, even the representatives of the people,
they could muster but a baker's dozen, called by Sir John Alac-
donald " the devil's dozen."
However, Rev. Mr. Percival did not expect any other result.
He prophesied that the Bill would not be disallowed. He proposed,
however, a practical solution out of the difficulty, and that was
to contribute money to the Presbyterians for the purpose of con-
verting the habitants. I have read such reports of conversions
by Mr. Chiniquy that the impression was left that they had all
gone over to Presbyterianism, but it seems a few are yet to be
converted, enough perhaps to be a real danger to the constitution
if not soon brought over fioni the wicked influence of Romanism.
I have it on reliable authority that he asserted that a girl con-
verted 500 Romanists into Presbyterians by distributing a few
Bibles amongst them. Why, if this be a fact, and the Bibles make
Presbyterians of them and not Methodists, why should not the
Bible make Methodists of these habitants ? Would their salvation
be as secure as Methodists ? Is there greater security in Pres-
byterianism? It would appear so, judging from Mr. Percival's
transition from the ministry of the one to the ministry of the
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other. What will our Methodist friends say to this ? After all if
they are foreordained to be saved ..a Presbyterians, they will surely
go over in crowds ; if on the other hand they are predestined to
be lost as Catholics, they will remain obstinately as they are.
This doctrine, " the end justifies the means, " is wicked, and
we repudiate it. It has been published in all the papers, Father
Whelan, of Ottawa, has offered a reward of $500 to any one who
will prove that the Jesuits teach this doctrine. The reward was
offered a month a<^o, and no one has yet claimed it.
The only doctrine I ever knew attributed to any denomination,
approaching; this in wickedness, is the Calvanistic doctrine of
^^oreordination. Tliis doctrine deprives man of all liberty, and
.lakes God the author of sin. So in that case it would be quite
useless to talk of end or means. Calvin called this the horrible
decree. Tlie doctrine transfers all responsibility of our moral
transj^ressions from the creature to the Creator. Whether true
or false in itself, it is opposed in its consequences, not only to
morality, but to the foundation of all moral laws. It teaches that
(jod Jnrt'ordaincd what ever comes to i)ass. Pass in review then
all the crimes that have been committed since the world l)ej^an,
including the first and last, and since they have mine to ]>a>iii it
follows that God had foreordained them. And since He had fore-
ordained them it follows that their perjjetrators could not avoid
committing; them. And since they could not avoid them, it fol-
lows they had no reason to l)e sorr}' for them, and since they had
no reason to be sorry for them, it follows there was no motive for
exertion to avoid them ; they will happen in spite of exertion. But
enough ; this is a wicked doctrine ; the consequences are awful.
The rev. gentleman says that the public were again beginning
to regard me as a gentleman. This would imply there was a time
when they did not, and soon after he puts me on my guard against
personalities. That's very good. He signs himself "Yours in de-
fence of the truth." Who is attacking the truth, or what truth
is he defending. Is not this begging the whole question with a
vengeance ? If he means all this, he is so very innocent, that
it's out among.st the babes in the woods he ought to be. Or can
it be that he is as some have hinted, will 1 say it, a Jesuit in
disguise? That at one time he insinuated himself into the
Methodist ministry, then having learned all about them, got on
to the Presbyterian, and is there now busy advert' --ing the Jesuits,
denouncing them so that the real truth about the n may come out.
If this should happen to be so, but I don't believe it, what rogues
the Jesuits must be — and he will return to the Jesuits, proclaim
himself an ex-Methodist, an ex-Presbyterien minister, and make
awful disclosures, like those of Maria Monk, Widdows and
Chiniquy. Would not that read like the pages of romance.
Like many others, Rev. Mr. Percival has of late been booming
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his church at our expense. I can readily believe that he has no
ill-will towards the Catholics. There are many who owe Catholics
no particular ill will, yet make a good living by slandering, mis-
representing and abusing them. The subject is always sure to
draw a crowd, and in this age of enterprise it is no wonder that
people should avail themselves of this popular craving to advertise
themselves, and promote their ends regardless of the means.
The rev. gentleman says that he was speaking in his own church
and to his own people. The nfTair was advertised ; many others
attended in consequence. Neither in his own church or any-
where, has a man a right either on his own authority or by false
quotations, to make assertions at variance with truth. His lecture
then was public, having been given in the church and advertised.
I or any one else have a perfect right to criticise his statements.
I am not at all agressive. Every one who knows me can
testify to that. But when a minister of the Gospel makes publicly,
unfounded statements about the Catholic religion, then, though
the mildest of men, it makes me somewhat mad, as he puts it.
If he had consulted me, I should have suggested a subject about
which he knew something — then he would not have made vil-
lains of the Jesuits and a fool of himself.
If then to my knowledge statements are made, within the
limits of this parish, either from the pulpit or through the press,
in which the doctrines or practices of the Church are mis-
represented, I shall be always ready in my humble way to task
my place, shall I say "in defence of truth?"
J. J. Egan.
Thornhill, April 8th, 1889.
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CHAPTER IV.
Rev. Mr. Percival accuses Father Egan of raising
Side Issues.
GIVES A HUMOUROUS ILLUSTRATION, AND CHARGES THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH WITH OPPOSITION TO THE WORD OF GOD
IN THE VULGAR TONGUE
The Rev. Mr. Egan in his first latter, like his renowned
countryman of Donneybrooke Fair fame, came out flourishing
his intellectual shillaly, and shouting "now thread on the tail
ave me coat." But now it seems he does not like to have his
coat tail trodden on, much less his corns. Your readers may
have heard the story of a fellow countryman of the rev. gentleman,
who recently emigrated to America. A short time after landing
he sought employment from a farmer as a farm labourer. Upon
being questioned as to the extent of his knowledge of practical
agriculture, Patrick at once unhesitatingly declared that he knew
all about it in theory and practice. He was then taken out to
the field and asked to take hold of the plow, and told to plow
straight for that black steer on the other side of the field. The
farmer then left him. Shortly after, returning, he found that
Paddy had beenplowiug, in the most fantastic manner imaginable,
literally going here and there, and almost everywhere. Why,
Paddy," said the farmer, "what do you mean by such a piece of
work as this?" " Sure, sur," said Pat in reply, "you tould me
to plow straight for the baste, but the confounded spalpeen has
been moving about all the time, but its myself that's been going
straight for her." In his last let^ ^r the rev. gentleman has been
acting very much like the hiack steer ; "the confounded spalpeen
has been moving about all the time," and if I go "straight tor
him," I fear I will make a very crooked furrow.
Your correspondent has the special faculty of raising a great
number of side issues, in order, no doubt, to call otf the attention
of your readers from the main question under discussion.
First, we are treated to a very learned disquisition on the
difference between Dogmatic Theology and Ethics. I would
just state for the rev. gentleman's information, that I so headed
my letter because I expected to have to write a number of them
in answer to his silly whimperings, and for the most part would
have to treat on Dogmatic Subjects, and therefore concluded so
to head them all, not that in every letter I shall confine myself
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to this particular subject. The rev. gentleman's fitness to fill
with credit a chair of either Dogmatic or Moral Theology, and I
may add, of even common English, must certaintly rest upon
something better than his last letter. I fail to find it there. I will
give your readers a specimen or two later on.
In my last communication I intimated that my failing to con-
sult Rev. Mr, Egan, and submit my sermon to him for his
approval, had probably made him mad. I did not mean angry,
I used the word in its primary and ordinary meaning — innane.
Anger and madness are not synonymous terms. I now find that
in my diagnosis of his mental condition, I was quite correct.
The rev. gentleman says he is mad. "But when a minister of
the gospel makes publicly unfounded statements about the
Catholic religion then, though the mildest of men, it makes me
somcirhat macV This candid confession was not at all necessary.
Anyone reading his letters would come to the same conclusion.
I would suggest to the rev. gentleman's friends that they look
after him, and place him where all madmen should properly be
— in a lunatic asylum.
It is quite amusing to notice Rev. Mr. Egan's bid for a little
Methodist sympathy in the odious position in which he now finds
himself, as the result of his rashness. I know "our Methodist
friends" (as he calls them) a little better than he does. Mr.
Egan is quite welcome to all the sy^ipathy he can get in that
quarter. In order to accomplish his purpose the rev. gentleman
will evidently stick at nothing. He says, " I have it on reliable
authority (of course all his knowledge is authoritative) that he
asserted that a girl converted 500 Romanists into Presbyterians
by distributing a few Bibles amongst them." Let me have your
reUahlc authoHtif, Mr. Egan, please. I never said anything of
the kind, and I defy you to prove I did. What I did say was
that a girl sold 500 copies of the New Testament Scriptures in a
comparatively small village in Quebec." I said nothing about
the particular effect the circulation of the Word of God had upon
the people. That was a pure invention of " the least aggressive •
of men " — Father Egan — to serve a particular purpose. I men-
tioned the incident to show that very many of the habitants of
Quebec are anxious to obtain that which Rome carefully keeps
from them, viz., the Word of God. Whether the free circulation
of the Holy Scripture makes Methodists, Episcopalians or Pres-
byterians, is a matter of very little moment, so long as it makes
Christians, and it is sure to do that. One thing, however, is quite
apparent : it is not especially adapted to make Roman Catholics,
or ratify them in that faith, if they should be born in it. This
is clear from the well-known hictoric fact that Rome has always
been a strong opponent ^f the free circulation of the Bible in the
vulgar tongue. A considerable portion of Mr. Egan's letter is
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taken up in caricaturing " the wicked Calvinistic doctrine of fore-
ordination, " in which the writer demonstrates his utter ignor-
ance of the subject. It is no doubt too profound a question for
the Rev. J. J. Egan's shallow brain. As it is quite foreign, how-
ever, to the one at present under consideration, we will not now
discuss it.
" Our Methodist friends " have probably not quite forgotten
that the Eev. Mr. Morris, one of Mr. Egan's predecessors, trav-
elled a long distance out of his way to attack the Rev. Mr. Bre-
den, an esteemed Methodist minister, for having the audacity to
dare to presume to address a company of Orangemen on July
12th, 1868. He found, however, " that he woke up the wrong
passenger, " and received in return a well merited drubbing.
" Our Methodists friends, " incommon with all Protestants, know
very well that according to well known Roman Dogma they are
all " foreordained " by " my Lord of God, " the infallible Pope
of Rome, ifo f/o to hell straiciht without even the optioii of a sojourn
in Rome's heathenish, Purgatory. " Outside thechurch of Rome
there is no salvation, " and the Rev. Mr.Egan, with ail his gross
vulgarity, consummate duplicity, and general proficiency in hy-
pocrisy, has not the brazen faced hardihood to deny it. I dare him
to do it if he can.
I have spent so much time in chasing the " black steer " round,
that I find most of my space gone without even touching the
main question at issue. In the future I will take no notice of the
mad animaVs wanderings. His horns are not sharp, so fortunately
he is not in a position to do anj' one much harm.
But to come back for a moment to the Jesuits. The rev. gentle-
man is evidently at home on the endjustifying the means business.
He wrings the charges out of the quotation from Wageman,
and delivers himself of the following sentence, which for hrilliancij
and distinctiH'Hs I venture to say is hard to match : — " Connected,
as I said, with an action indifferent, or at least not bad in itself,
to procure an end, from placing an action bad in itself to procure
an end." This certainly settles the controversy on that head."
Your readers are all doubtless convinced by the rev. gentleman's
clear putting of the case. Having achieved such a brilliant vic-
tory in this instance, perhaps the rev. gentleman will be kind
enough to take up the other passage I gave him from Busem-
baum : — " Cum finis est licitiis etium medi sunt lueita." '* When
the end is allowable the means are allowable." Or perhaps he may
kindly tell your readers what Gaspard Hardato, a Spanish Jesuit,
means when he says: — " That a son may wish for the death of
his father, and even rejoice at it when it arrives, if his wish does
not arise from personal hatred but only from a desire of the pat-
rimony which his death procures him." Or what Father L'Amy,
a French Jeeuit, means when he says : — " That a Monk or ec-
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clesiastic may lawfully assassinate a calumniator who threatens
to impute scandalous crimes to the community when there is no
other way of preventing the execution of his purpose." These
will he sufficient perhaps for the present. When the rev. gentleman
has given your readers the henefit of his very lucid and clear ex-
planation, I may favor him with some others.
The Rev. Mr. Egan calls in question my statement that the
Jesuits ever came under the ban of the Pope, and demands proof.
We shall certainly gratify him. Dr. Mosheim, in his Church
Historij, page 710, says : — " The Jesuits affected to believe (and
probably many of them thought) that Clement would not dare
to suppress their Order. But in the fifth year of his pontificate,
he resolved, in defiance of all clamour and menaces of the zealots,
to disembody the fraternity, and amalgamate its members with
the unprivileged mass of society. He declared it to be his opinion
that the order had ceased to answer the ends of its institution,
and that the members, by the impropriety of their conduct, their
loose casuistry and their mischievous arts, had forfeited all claim
to further encouragement. A bull for the annihilation of the
society was therefore promulgated, its colleges were seized and
its revenues confiscated. Lorenzo Ricca, the refractory general
of the order, was sent to the Castle of St Angelo, and died in
confinement." Is this satisfactory ? The bull of Pope Clement
XIV, was dated July 21st, 1773. I would like to give it to you in
full for Eev. Mr. Egan's benefit, but it is too long for your space.
I will give an extract or two. The Pope says : — " We have omitted
no care, no pains, to arrive at a thorough knowledge of the origin,
the progress, the state of that regular order commonly known as
the company of Jesuits." He then goes on to accuse them of
having adopted, in certain places, certain idolatrous ceremonies
in cont impt of those approved of by the Catholic Church and
with teaching certain doctrines which the Holy See had pres-
cribed as scandalous and contrary to good morals. He then calls
attention to the fact that his " dearly beloved sons in Christ,
the kings of France, Spain, Portugal and Sicily, found them-
selves bound to the necessity of expelling and driving from their
states, kingdoms and provinces these very companions of Jesus,
persuaded that there remained no other remedy to so great evils,
and that this step was necessary to prevent the christians from
rising against one another, and from massacring one another in
the bosom of our common Mother, the Holy Church." He con-
cludes as fellows : — " We do out of our certain knowledge, and
in the fullness of our Apostolical power, suj^press and abolish
the said company, and that the name of the company shall be,
and is forever extinguished and supressed. Our will and pleasure
is, that these our letters shall fore rcr to all eternity he valid, per-
manent and effieatious."
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We shall see what the Eev. Mr. Egan has to say to this well
established historic fact. I warn him, however, not to follow in
the footsteps of the Eev. Mr. Hand, and say that " this vaa
only a piece of diplomacy demanded by the peculiar exigencies
of the times." That's altogether too thin. He will have to manu-
facture something better than that. Perhaps, with his charac-
teristic efifrontery, he will deny the existence of the document.
We shall see. These are the gentlemen who, having been dclih-
erateli/ kicked out of all Catholic countries again and agam, by
Popes, Princes and Kings, are now coming over to America, like
the third plague of Egypt (j'our Bible readers will remember
what that was), again to repeat the peculiar tactics for which
they are justly condemned by the impartial testimony of history.
The Eev. Father Egan evidently has derived a great amount
of consolation from the recent vote in Parliament on the ques-
tion of disallowance (in fact I know of nothing that could give
him greater pleasure, unless it be the repeal of the Scott Act)
but its a long road that has no turn in it. This vote has not
been an unmixed evil by any means. It has opened the eyes of
the Protestants of this Dominion, and given them to understand
clearly by whom they are actually ruled. It's worth paying a
round sum for the possession of this knowledge.
This vote has not been looked upon as an unmixed good by
many of the more intelligent Eomanists, by any means. Le
Canadien, the leading Dominion Government organ at Quebec,
and which is supposed to reflect to a large extent the views of
Cardinal Taschereau, in a recent issue concludes an article on
the subject as follows — " The papal diplomacy in this instance
has been changing, illogical and inconsequent. These vacil-
lations, inconsequences, contradictions, have created a bad effect
in this country, and we pray God that such a spectacle may
never again bo seen here."
The rev. gentleman concludes his letter with the following
proclamation : — " If then to my knowledge statements are made
within the limits of this parish, either from the pulpit or through
the press, in which the doctrines of the Church are misrepresented,
I shall be always ready in my humble way to take my place,
shall I say for the defence of the truth." It is to be earnestly
hoped that all Protestant ministers residing within the bounds
of the parish aforesaid will take due notice and govern themselves
accordingly. Perhaps in his next the Eev. ]\Ir. Egan will kindly
define the limit or extent of his parish, so that those living out-
side it may breathe freely.
For the present, yours in defence of truth.
The Manse, lUchnwnd Hill.
April im, 1886.
W. W. Percival.
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CHAPTEK V.
Father Egan Answers the Charge of Raising Side
Issues ^ .
CALLS UPON MR. PERCIVAL AGAIN TO PROVE HIS STATEMENTS, DE-
TECTS A FRAUD IN THE QUOTATION OF THE PAPAL BRIEF
CALLS FOR PROOF THAT THE CHURCH IS OPPOSED
TO THE BIBLE AND INVITES HIM TO A
FRIENDLY DISCUSSION OF THE
^BIBLE QUESTION.
As Rev. Mr. Percival commenced his last letter by re-
lating a humorous anecdote of a countryman of mine, I may be
permitted to tell another. Though my anecdote may not be
quite so humorous, it will be, I am sure, more appropriate.
Hearing two Frenchmen arguing some point, and not under-
standing their language, the Hibernian exclaimed, "I don't know
what they are saying, but I know very well who is getting the
worst of the argument — the man who has lost his temper." It
is evident the rev. gentleman has quite lost his temper, and I
pity whoever finds it.
His letter reminds me of Swift's meditations on a broom stick;
it is a specimen of that diffusive, empty style, wherein a great
deal is said, and nothing proved. Vox ct praetcra mliil ("A
sound and nothing more"). I am indeed sorry, by reason of the
matter in discussion (if indeed there is anything now under
discussion), to find that he has descended so low. People will
be disgusted to find that a person in the garb of a clergyman
cannot conduct a controversy in a manner becoming the dignity
of a christian gentleman, and a suliject of vital importance.
There is no argument in that kind of thing. But I shall not
follow him in Billingsgate. The depths to which he has de-
scended give hira that impunity, which, perhaps, he has been
seeking. Could any one imagine that his last letter was written
by the courteous disciple of Chesterfield, who warned me against
personalities, and declared he would deal with principles, not
with persons?
He says that I have the special faculty of raising side issues
in order to direct attention from the main question under dis-
cussion. Now, what is the main question under discussion, and
how far has he kept to it? Shall I repeat it? That in his own
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church, to his own people he quoted the Mail of March 5th to prove
that the Jesuits, and consequently the Catholic Church, taught
the wicked doctrine that the end justifies the means, a doctrine
so subversive of all moral law that persons professing it would
be unfit for civil society. I call upon him to give authentic proof
of this statement, and he answers by saying that after all the
end has something to do with the action. Here indeed he made
a slight advance to the question under discussion, but did not
get quite to it. And because I have called upon him for proof
of this accusation, which is a gross calumny, and asked him to
have the proof endorsed by the Toronto University, he complains
that I grossly abused him. I have called upon him for proof
of his assertion that the Pope did curse the Jesuits with book,
bell and candle. Did he rush to the University, and like a man
bring forth the proofs? Not a bit of it. What does he do in-
stead? He tells a yarn about a steer, and then steers away
from the subject as fast and as far as it was possible. Then he
goes on to say that I have been raising side issues in order to
draw attention from the question under discussion. These proofs
were the points under discussion, and he has carefully shunned
them, reminding one of the bird which flies in every direction
when its nest is invaded, except near the spot where the nest is
located.
It is true that as a matter of expediency the Jesuits were
suppressed as a society. In the Brief, however, of their
suppression there is not one word condemning them or their
doctrines. They were allowed to disperse and join the ranks
of the secular clergy as priests in good standing.
Mr. Percival says the Pope in his rescript goes on to accuse
them of certain idolatrous ceremonies in contempt of those
approved of b}^ the Catholic Church, and with teaching certain
doctrines which the Holy See had proscribed as scandalous and
contrary to good morals. You are at your old work of mis-
representation again, Mr. Percival. If he can get the Professors
of the University to show from the Brief (not a Bull, as Mr.
Percival calls it) that he states the truth in the above sentence
as it is, I shall give him one hundred dollars for his trouble.
There is a chance. He is wrong, and he knows it. There is no
good faith in an error like that. Does he depend on tricks like
this for the success of the cause he advocates?
What will the Presbyterian congregation think of their minister
who, when called upon to substantiate these statements, has no
answer to give but abuse, so low, that the amenities of ordinary
civilized society forbid me to notice, much less to follow him to
such depths of vulgarity. Would not the rev. gentleman have
been better employed in proving his statements, as people expected
than finding fault with a sentence in which some words were
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omitted, and which would have been rectified if I had had an
opportunity of seeing the proof sheet. When a man tries to
make capital out of an accident like that it can be easily seen to
what straits he is driven.
I ask now, who has l)een keeping from the point ? I have in-
deed in my last letter been rambling, not like ray countryman
after a hcast, but, after one who I considered at least as having the
cultivation of a gentleman, though perhaps mistaken or deceived
in regard to certain facts or doctrines. The Catholic Church
does not teach her Theology through the Mail, nor is her history
impartially stated in Mosheim, as he will find. I call upon Kev.
Mr. Percival again for authentic proof of his statements, or let
him honestly say that these proofs are not to be found. It is
not by teaching abominable doctrines, such as he attributes to
her, that the Catholic Church has acquired intluence which she
holds, and of which i^e is so jealous.
I am sorry that I was misinformed about the conversion of
500 inhabitants, and I hereby retract my assertion to that effect,
on the ground that I was deceived. I shall not need in future
to rely on hear-say, as I have the gentleman's own words in
print. I think, however, it would be difficult to find a com-
paratively small village in Quebec, 500 families, without copies
of the Bible. It is astonishing, however, how much better the
clergy of the Presbyterian Church know Catholic theology and
the condition of Catholic people, than the Catholic clergy, whose
duties and avocations l)ring them in much closer connection
with these matters. In fact the thing is almost incredible.
He says that Eome has always been a strong opponent of the
free circulation of the Bible in the vulgar tongue. That is
simply another calumny. Will he prove the assertion '? I know
I can prove to the contrary. He saj^s whether the free circulation
of the Scriptures makes Methodists, Episcopalians or Pres-
byterians is of very little moment, so long as it makes christians,
and it is sure to do that. Is it because the Presbyterians do
not regard Catholics as christians that they take such pains to
circulate the Bible amongst them? It would seem so.
The rev. gentleman has got out of the Dogmatic business
ingeniously. But suppose we return to it for a while, and as he
says he Ims been anticipating some Dogmatic gymnastics, I
shall gi\e him a chance of exercising his skill in that department.
We shall watcli carefully to what use he will put tliis opportunity.
I shall ask him a few questions suggested by the last sentence
of his which I have quoted. If hitherto we have been groping
in the dark on matters so important, it will become him much
more to enlighten us, and, in a charitable, gentlemanly manner,
reconcile us to his views, than slander us, call us hard names,
and tell us our brains are too shallow to understand these things.
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It will be admitted that people with shallow brains have souls to
save, and are capable of ac(iuiring the knowledge necessary to
that end, unless, indeed, they are " fore-ordained," in which
case they are all ri^' In a recent
publication called " The Living Euchanst Manifested by-
Miracles," (written by a good Catholic) the author assures us,
"that this is the table of the Lord, and on which the world's
Redeemer and God, Jesus, offered the first eucharistic sacrifice."
On the same authority we learn that in the Cathedral of Val-
encia, in Spain, they have "the cup in which His blood was
first laid, the chalice elevated from the table by His divine
hands." " At St. Mark's, in Venice," says the same author,
"the knife used by our Lord in touching, not cutting, the bread,
is exposed each year, on Holy Thursday, for the veneration of
the faithful."
They have even more wondertul mementos than these. In
raore than one Cathedral they have specimens of the manna of
the wilderness, and -a few blossoms of Aaron's rod. In Rome
they have the very ark that Moses made, and the rod by which
he wrought his miracles. At Gastonbury they have the iden-
tical stones which the devil tempted our Lord to turn into bread.
In another of cheir chapels they have the dice employed by the
soldiers in casting lots for the Saviour's garments. They have
also St. Joseph's axe and saw ; St. Anthony's mill stone, on
which he crossed the sea (he must. have made 18 miles an hour) ;
St. Patrick's staff, by which he drove out the toads and snakes
from Ireland ; St. Ann's comb ; St. Mark's boots ; a piece of
the Virgin's green petticoat ; St. Anthony's toe-nails ; and
" the parings of St. Edmund's toes." But this does not begin
to exhaust the very interesting collection. They have a vial of
St. Joseph's breath, caught as he was exercising himself with
the very axe and saw now in their possession. They have also
hair from the heads of most of their saints, and twelve combs,
one from each of the Apostles, with which to dress it. And
what is more wonderful still, the combs are declared to be " all
nearly as good as new." They have also a* small bit of the
rope with which Judas hanged himself ; the nose of an angel ;
a rib "of the word made flesh ; " "a quantity of the identical
rays of the star which led the wise men to our infant Saviour ; "
Christ's seamless coat ; a wing of the archangel Gabriel, ob-
tained by the prayers of Pope Gregory VII. ; the beard of Noah ;,
a piece of the very same porphyry pillar on which the cock
perched when he crowed after Peter's denial, and even the comb
of the cock. And then they have what we should consider the
most valuable gem of the entire collection, viz : — " One of the
steps of the ladder on which Jacob, in his dream, saw the
heavenly host ascending and descending."
Rome has certainly done a large business in the relic line.
The above will answer as specimens. If your readers would
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like more extensive information on the subject, we refer them to
the book mentioned above — "The Living Eucharist Manifested
by Miracles," by George Keating, London, A.D. 1869.
But this rubbish hurts no one, unless it is the simple people
who are thus imposed on by the Church, in which they have im-
plicit faith ; but when it comes to other subjects, such as the
Church Dogma on " Mental Restrictions," then it becomes an
entirely different matter. This is a question in which we are all
interested, Protestant as well as Romanist, for if tl;ie Dogma of
the Church of Rome on this subject was universally received,
and acted upon, the very foundation on which Civil Society rests
would give way, and the whole system would fall to pieces. The
attitude of the Church of Rome with regard to Civil Govern-
ment, and its very ingenious device of " Mental Restrictions,"
in order to surmount difficulties, is a question to which the
majority of your readers have probably devoted but little atten-
tion, but it is one of fundamental importance, I feel that justice
could not be done to it in this letter, without trespassing unduly
upon your space. I will, therefore, reserve it for my next.
Yours in defence of truth,
W. W. Percival.
The Manse, Richmond Hill, Mai) 13th, 1889.
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CHAPTER IX.
Father Egan Resolves to no longer stand on the
Defensive
BUT WANTS TO SEE HOW PRE8BYTERIANISM WILL
STAND ATTACKING.
Note — This letter appears in the same issue as the last, dated May 10th.
It is a letter expressing Father Egan's resolution no longer to remain on the
defensive, but proceed to carry war into Africa, for the purpose of showing
how fair Presbyterians can defend their standards. It speaks for itself.
I think the pubHc must be getting tired of the Jesuit Ques-
tion. Rev. Mr. Percival has been making serious charges against
them, and against the Church in whose service they are honored
and zealous ministers. Whether he has sustained these charges
or not, I leaye the public to judge. If the rev. gentleman will ^
now take up the Bible as a Rule of Faith, I shall be happy to
discuss the matter amicable with him. If he will not choose
this latter course, I am not disposed any longer to remain on the
defensive, as I have been for the past few weeks.
Suppose now, for the sake of variety, that I enter the sanc-
tuary of the Presbyterian religion, attack it as he has the Catho-
lic religion, and take it down from its pedestal, on which people
of moderate information have been accustomed to regard it as
the " beau ideal " of all that is friendly to Civil and Religious
Liberty, and lay it open by dissection.
I have plJi-chased recently, and have been reading, the Con-
fession of Faith, which is, I understand, the standard of Pres-
byterian doctrine. From t^ d the history of the past, as
the manifestations of thp .u time, I can lay before the
public the anatomy o^ ^jrianism, and show that, not-
withstanding its long sanctimonious visage to which its
advocates point with su^xi confidence, there is the deadly seed
of intolerance and persecution in every joint and muscle of its
whole frame and structure. The Presbyterian clergy to-day are
clamouring for Civil and Religious Liberty, when their object is
to raise unjust hatred and prejudice against Catholics, and de-
prive them of every liberty, as Presbyterians are bound in con-
science to do, according to their own teaching,. as found in the
Confession of Faith, which says (See National Covenant, page
260, &c.) : — " That papistry and superstition may be utterly
suppressed. And to that end they ordain that all papists and
all priests be i^uni&hed with manifold civil and ecclesiastical
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pains as adversaries to God's true religion, preached, and by
law established, within this realm," &c., &c. Though other
religious denominations have persecuted in the name of religion,
I am not aware that there is another denomination who holds
it as a tenet revealed by God that they are obliged in conscience
to remove allfahe lyonhip, except the Presbyterians. Let Rev.
Mr. Percival and the public read the Confession of Faith, and
see how much of that religious tolerance they will find there,
for which they are clamouring. Let us at once have some
Eoman Dogmatics, or a paraphrase on the Confession of Faith.
I do not charge Presbyterians in general with bigotry. There
are plenty amongst them whose good human nature has elevated
them above the narrow-mindedness of Calvinism. I have good
friends amongst Presbyterians, as liberal and good neighbours
as can be, but it is in spite not because of their PresbyterianisLa
that they are liberal. Even amongst their clergy, I am quite
willing to admit, there are gentlemen of finished education, of
delickte truth, and of elegant courtesy in their social character
on most other points, but in reference to Catholicity they are
not ashamed to utter statements too gross to be told. These
are the gentlemen at the bottom of the No-Popery cry of the
present day, trying to create national and religious discord, as
their predecessors have done in times that are past.
J. J. Egan.
. Thornhill, May 16th, 1889.
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CHAPTEE X.
Father Egati deals with the Authorities on which Mr.
Percival makes his Statement.
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EPITOMIZES THE PRESENT STATE OF THE CONTPvOVERSY, AND
OPENS HIS ATTACK ON PRES^ "BRIAN DOCTRINE
AND INTOLERANCE.
Eev. Mr. Percl/al's last letter reminds me of Bob Ingersoll's
Lecture on Skulls, and, like that lecture has a tendency, even
though not intended by Mr. Percival, to propagate infidelity.
There is nothing more painful to me than to be obliged to give a
direct contradiction to a gentleman of the clerical jjrofession,
but I sincerely wish, for the sake of the cloth, that he would
pay more attention to the truth of his statements. He should
inquire more into facts before he makes such statements as,
" In France they have four heads of John the Baptist," then
speaks of eight arms of St. Matthew and thi-ee of St. Luke.
Again the wing of the archangel Gabriel, the steps of Jacob's
ladder, the rays of a star, &c., &c.
These are yarns of French and Italian Ciceronies, who poke
fun at their dupes, whom they know, by experience, will swallow
any story, no matter how improbable, about the Catholic re-
ligion, and in return pay a few francs for the entertainment. Is
there any one, except Mr. Percival himself, that could believe in
the presence in France, or anywhere else, of what cannot possibly
have any material existence, such as an angel's wing, a step of
Jacob's ladder, or the rays of a star ? He may entertain the
Sunday School children with such narratives, though it is no
food spiritually or intellectually even for them, but when he se-
riously pens such nonsense for the reading public, the thing is
too silly for refutation. The Bev. gentleman seems to have
acted upon it as a principle, that in all which relates to the
Catholic Church, a thing is more or less true in proportion to its
improbability, and that these things alone are absolutely certain
of which it can be demonstrated that they could not by any
possibility have happened. This principles has so far relieved
him of all responsibility in regard to the rules of Logic and The-
ology — matters which evidently never gave him much trouble.
And now when we find skulls and bones, and all such trumpery,
dancing in such fantastic confusion through his brain, the con-
viction forces itself upon us that instead of being afflicted with
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biliousness, which deprived, him of his natnral suavity, he must
havo been laboring under the horrors of a nightmare when he
wrote his last letter. At all events it is clear that his zeal has
ran away with his discretion, and that his hatred against the
Catholic Church is more intense than his love for the truth.
Who this Keating is, from whom he professes to quote, I do
not know,, I have never heard or read of him, either as a good
Catholic or as an author. I have read of an impostor of that
name, who went around fooling Protestants, giving no-Popery
lectures, collecting money to evangelize Catholics, and laughing
in his sleer\'es at his dupes. The last I read of him was that he
had been sent to the Penitentiary for embezzlement.
' Rev. Mr. Percival says he could occupy many columns of your
paper in describing the multitude of lying wonders. Of course
he could, and probably will, from the same and similar sources,
for the business has paid t\'ell in the past, but I think it will be
at a discount here in the future.
Once more, what is tuG matter under discussion, and how does
the controversy stand ?
Some weeks ago Rev. Mr. Percival was drawing great crowds to
his church, and acquiring great reputation for evangelical wit,
learning and piety, by elegantly slandering tho Jesuits and their
teachings, and by setting forth in his sermons, with all their
harrowing details, the astounding abominations of the Church
of Rome, powerfuUj' illustrating her superstitions, and warning
his flock of thp dangers which threatened them through her ag-
gressions. Things were going on serenely for him, when I dropped
on the scene, and spoiled all his fun, by calling on him to prove
statements by which he was creating unjust prejudice au'ongst
neighbors. From that day to this his glory has baen gradually
fading away, and it looks now as if it were predestined to become
a vanishing quantity,
1. Rev. Mr. Percival -has stated that the Catholic Church
holds the doctrine " that the end justifies the means," and not
only that, but that whenever she found it convenient, has acted
upon that principle. I denied that charge, and called upon him
to prove it, or retract. No proof.
2. He has stated that the Catholic Church is opposed to the
circulation of the IBible in the vulgar tongue. I denied that, asked
for proof, and offered to discuss amicably the Bible question with
him ; and, as he would say himself, he is " as silent as the grave."
3. He says the Bible is sure to make christians. I have asked
him how '? No answer ; but I fancy he has a lurking suspicion
that it could receive material assistance from the Westminster
Confession and the Rev. Mr. Percival in the christianizing pro-
cess.
4. He says it matters not what denomination of christians
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comes of Bible reading (except Catholics, of course), provided
they are christians. I have asked him to reconcile with this
statement the numerous contradictory doctrines which involve,
according to philosophy, error on the part of some. To say that
true and false creeds have a right to equal deference, is to des- .
troy all distinction between the true and the false, and to put
truth and error on equai terms. Sane intellects can never do
this. We may honor, it is true, the honesty of a man who hap-
pened to be in error, but we cannot on this account respect the
error itself. To these matters he answers by assuring us they
are minor poinU. and thus he despatches them with nilent contempt
5. He says the Pope cursed the Jesuits with book, bell and
candle. I asked for proof. No proof, but in quoting the Brief
of their suppression, which was never denied, he altered it, and
by doing so placed himself horn de combat. Of course, like many
others of his class, he thinks there is no need of proof for charges
made against Catholics. In fact to ex^. "t any such proofs
would be to cramp the human intellect, and militate against
liberty of thought. Instead of keeping to these matters and dis-
cussing them as though in the interests of truth, he gives us
a lecture on skulls and bones, part of which lecture carries its
own contradiction on the face of it.
As he has so far offered no proofs of his assertions, I might
have opposed my assertions to his, but no. I preferred to draw
him out and give him plenty of that rope he so facetiously re-
ferred to in his last letter. I am perfectly satisfied with the ex-
periment, and I think it ought to show our Protestant friends
the species of warfare that is carried on against fhe Catholic
Church. It orght to show them that no statement is considered
too improbable against her and her doctrines, and that the
accusations of even men calling themselves ministers of the
gospel are not, in her regard, to be relied upon with implicit
confidence.
What, now, will the people of Eichmond Hill think of the
champion of Presbytorianism in that vicinity, who a few weeks
ago denounced the teachings of the Catholic Church, and called
loudly on the people to unite against the aggressions of Eoman-
ism '? What of his sincerity, when he cannot sustain a single
charge which he has made, and the only time he attempted to
do so is detected in a fraud ? Is not his insincerity apparent to
ail ? And insincerity in a public teacher is an offence which
honest men cannot tolerate ; he who is guilty of it is unworthy
of the slightest consideration, and should, like all other frauds,
be exposed, that the credulous and unwary may not be deceived.
An honest man, even when in error, is at par in the estimation
of his fellow-men, but one who is not is always at a heavy dis-
count, even when he happens to tell the truths
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What, I would ask, have relics to do with the question under
discussion ? One would think that Mr. Percival's last letter
was written or copied from some tourist's note book, by the
gentleman who told the black steer yarn, and accused me of so
often keeping from the subject.
Of late the Presbyterian clergy have devoted themselves to
the preaching of religious and political hatred among citizens in
this country, where the rights of all are equal. They are trying
also to get the other Protestant denominations to join them in a
crusade against Catholics. I believe that a great many sober-
minded Presbyterians have beheld with regret and mortification
the proceedings of the rev. agitators of their sect.
The Westminster Confession of Faith is, I understand, the
standard of Presbyterian doctrine. It is claimed by Presby-
terians that every doctrine taught by it is revealed by God in
the Scriptures. In the National Covenant, page 286, it is
declared that Presbyterianism " is the only true faith and religion
pleasing to God and bringing salvation to man." " And (it
continues) therefore we abhor and detest all contrary religion,
but chiefly all Papistry in general, and particular heads, even
as they are noiv damned, and confuted by God's word and the
Kirk of Scotland." Page 269. " And all magistrates, sheriffs,
&c., on the one part are ordained to search, apprehend, and
punish all contraveners." For instance Act 5, Par., &c., James
VI., " and that, notwithstanding of the King's Majesty's license
on the contrary, which are discharged, and declared to be of no
force, in so far as they tend in any wise to the prejudice and
hinder of the execution of the Acts of Parliament against Papists
and the adversaries of true religion."
This precious document ordains also, that the King at his
coronation shall make solemn oath to practice and protect the
only true religion according to the Confession of Faith, and shall
abolish all false religion contrary to the same.
In the Solemn League and Covenant, page 277, we find the
following paragraph : — " That we shall in like manner, without
respect of persons, endeavour the extirpation of Popery, Prelacy
(that is church government by Archbiohops, Bishops, Deans,
Chapters, Archdeacons and all ecclesiastical officers depending
on the hierarchy), superstition, heresy, schism, &c., lest we
partake in other men's sins and thereby receive their plo,gueH,"
&c.
According to the Confession of Faith, Larger Catechism, page
15B, tolerating a false religion is reckoned a sin against the
second Commandment of God, and since Presbyterianism,
according to the same Confession, is the <>vli/ true religion, it
follows that Presbyterians sin against the second Commandment
by tolerating any religion except their own.
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The Confession tells us that the "visible church consists of
all those throughout the world that profess the true religion,
together with their children, and is the Kingdom of the Lord
Jesus Christ, the house and family of God, out of which there is
no ordinary possibility of salvation." Whence it follows that
those who do not profess the true religion do not belong to the
" Church of our Common Lord." Now the true religion, ac-
cording to Presbyterian belief, consists in the doctrines of the
old and new testaments — and the book called the Confession of
Faith contains the doctrines taught in the Holy Scriptures.
Consequently all who do not belong to Presbyterianism are to be
extirj)ated here and lost hereafter. Presbyterianism is in a bad
fix in this country. The second commandment forbids them,
under pain of sin, to tolerate a false religion, and the Confession
requires them to persecute all who do not belong to the Kirk,
the church of our Common Lord, but the constitutions of the
country require them to tolerate all religions, and let the church
of our Common Lord take care of itself. Presbyterians hold,
not only as a doctrine, but as a Commandment of God, that
they are bound to remove all false worship. If therefore they
are bound to do this, what other religion will remain, after they
h^ve begun to keep the second commandment. Every other
religion but their own is a false worship, and as they are bound
to remove all false worship, it follows they are bound to remove
all othet religions.
Even now, without a single legitimate motive to stimulate
them, they are attempting to rob their Catholic fellow citizens
of the civil and religious rights guaranteed by the laws of the land ;
other denominations of Protestants are used by them as cat's
paws and will no doubt in due season receive their merited but
unwelcome recompense at the hand of predominant Presbyteri-
anism. They are the favored class. With the decree of election
and reprobation as a patent of impunity in the other world, for
actions done in this, they have conscientious facilities for the
accomplishment of projects, dictated by private and sectarian
ambition, which are denied to those who hold as a doctrine that
their conduct in this life will have a serious influence on the
judgment of their souls in ihe life to come. And these are the
people who are now talking of religious toleration, and are calling
for equal rights for all. I see by the newspapers that recently
an overture was made for the modification of the Confession of
Faith. This overture was made on the ground that the phra-
seology of certain' sections of the Confession does not accurately
express the living faith of the church, c. g. eections 3, 4, and 7
of Chap. IIL, which see. Now section 3 reads ; " By the decree
of God for the manifestation of His glory some men and angels
are predestined unto everlasting life, and others foreordained to
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to
everlasting death." The Confession of Faith, or Presbyterian
standard, declares that at the time it was drawn up that Pres-
byterianism was perfect and the only true religion. It asserts
moreover that every doctrine taught in the Confession was re-
vealed by God. Now if every doctrine in the Confession was re-
vealed by God, by what right would the Presbytery modify or in
anyway alter them, unless a new revelation has been made to the
Presbytery. If, on the other hand, there is reason to suppose
that all these doctrines were not revealed by God, as those men
imi^ly who asked for a change, how is it that the latter remain
in connnunion with the Presbytery or are allowed to remain ?
It is alleged that they do not express the living faith of the
church, ^ut if God has revealed them it is the duty of the liv-
ing church to correspond with what God has revealed, and not
have His revelation changed to suit the living faith of the Pres-
bytery. But it is alleged in the overture that " Moflnrn Biblical
research has thrown additional light on ceitain portions of the
Scripture, making it undesirable that iliey should be used as
proof texts in the connection in which they stand in the Confession."
From this it appears that it takes God Almighty a long time to reveal
Plis will to the Presbytery or to fmd out what will suit them. What
trash in the name of religion ! And these are the people who
are everlastingly crying out against the errors of the Catholic
Church, which has accepted what God has taught, and leaves it
as God gave it, never presuming to alter what God has left in
the deposit of revelation. i
Still Eev. Mr. Percival heads his letters " Roman Dogmatics,"
when there his not a word of Dogma in them, calls Mental Re-
striction, Dogma, when it is not so. Signs himself yours in defence
of truth, when he has been frequently detected in falsehoods, and
in general has been, during this correspondence, indulging in
antics which must bring nothing but pain and mortification to
his friends. Why do not some of his friends urge him to think
deeper than the surface, give him a knowledge of the true prin-
ciples of probity, impart to him a proper sense of the importance
of truth, and induce him to forego buffoonery when dealing with
sacred questions ; such friends would confer on him a great boon.
In any other cane I have no doubt he would have cautiously
weighed the consequences of committing his name to the malig-
nant charges he has made, but a Presbyterian Clergyman, im-
bued with the spirit of Calvanism, loses all prudence, all sense of
justice and truth, when dealing with matters pertaining to the
Catholic religion.
I remain yours in detecting and exposing falsehood,
J. J. Egan.
Thonihill May 22nd, 1886.
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CHAPTEE XL
Mental Restriction.
REV. MR. PERCIVAL ON MENTAL RESTRICTION AS TAUGHT AND
PRACTICED IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
In this letter I propose to enquire into the somewhat j)eeuliar
teachings of the Komish Church, according to some 3f her
standard authors, relative to the subject of " Men till Eestric-
tions." Your readers will, I think, agree with me, that there is
nothing more sacred, or more binding to a man's conscience
than an oath, by which we appeal to God, the fountain of divine
knowledge and power, that the statement which we are about to
make is " the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."
It is, therefore, of the greatest importance that our views on this
subject should be clear and distinct.
As oaths are imposed for the safety of the party administer-
ing them, they, most certainly, should be interpreted as he under-
stands them. The person under oath has no right to make any
mental reservation, but to declare the whole truth, precisely in
the manner that the truth is expected of him. And we submit
that on no other principle would we ever know what to expect
or believe from a witness.. This is the simple belief of the
Protestant Church on this subject, and it must surely commend
itself to the intelligent approval of all. But how is it with re-
gard to the Jesuits and the Church of Eome? Let me give your
readers the statements of some of her pronounced and most in-
fluential writers on the subject. I have no wish or desire at all
to misrepresent the attitude of the Eoman Church regarding
either this or any other subject, but when I find her authors
making distinct statements, I have no altsrnative but to accept
them. I do not think that I will be contradicted when I state
that Peter Dens is one of the standard commentators on the
laws and moral theology of the Romish Church. Anj^thing he
may state must certainly be authoritative. His works are pub-
lished in Latin, in eight volumes, and are manifestly designed
for the instruction of the priesthood alone.
Dens lays it down as the law of the Church that the right of
the Pope, as the ultimate superior and sovereign, is reserved in
every oath. We also find him instructing the faithful that the
Pope has the power of withdrawing or prohibiting what is in-
cluded in an oath, and that ich en he doc ft so, it in no longer included.
It will be quite- apparent that under such a law the Church of
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re-
hors
•eept
itate
the
ghe
pub-
ined
of
icl in
the
in-
ded.
of
Eome has but to demonstrate to its people that a constitution
or law of any State or Government is opposed to the welfare of
the Church, when it becomes then their religious duty to treat
the oath they have taken to obey such constitution or law as no
oath at all, but rather perjury. For the accomplishment of the
same purpose, he inculcates and defends the doctrines of " men-
tal restriction," and " ambiguity and equivocation." It will be
quite beside the mark for my opponent to say that Dens lays
down the abstract proposition, in general terms, that it is un-
lawful to lie in any event. This is quite true, but it is also
equally true that in each special case as it arises, rules are fur-
nished, by which the faithful are to decide what is and what is
not a lie.
According to this author, " mental restrictions " are of two
kinds — purely mental and real. As regards real restriction he
says : — " Eeal restriction occurs when the declaration is false,
if we regard the words alone ; but circumstances concur which
signify that something to be secretly understood, which the
speaker keeps in his mind, and which, being secretly understood,
the declaration is true. " Eestrictio realis occurist, dum enun-
tiato, spectatis solis verbis, falsa est, sed ciraimstantue concurrunt,
(fUOB significant aliquid esse suhintdli gendmn, quodloquens in mente
tenet, et quo subintellecto, enuntiate est vera" Dens, Vol. IV.,
No. 244, p. 399.
What will your intelligent readers think of this specimen of
Catholic Moral Philosophy ? But perhaps we may be told that
this is only the opinion of one man, and is not endorsed by the
Church. But this will not do, for we have this rule receiving
the sanction and approval of one of the infallible Popes, Inno-
cent XL, which gives it the full sanction of the Catholic Church.
In a proposition laid down by him he said : — " If any, either
alone or before others, whether asked or of his own accord, or
for the purpose of sport, or for any other object, swears that he
has not done something which in reality he has done, by under-
standing within himself something else which he has not done,
or a different way from that in which he has done it, or any
other truth that is added, he iocs not really lie, nor is he pur-
jured." '' Prohatur etiavi i ^amnatione hnjns prop, S6, Innoc,
XI : Si quis vcl solus vet c ram aliis, siveinterrt)gati(s, sire sponte
propria, sive recreationis causa, site quocumque alio fine, juret se
non fecisse aliquid, quod re vera fecit inteiligendo intra se aliquid
aliiid, quod non fecit, vet aliam ah ea, in qua facit, vel quokvis aliud
additum, rcvcra non mentitur ne est perjuris." Dens, Vol. IV.,
p. 306-310
It will be perceived at a single glance how wide these rules
open the door for falsehood and perjury ; in their practical
working their effect must be to completely destroy all confidence
50
lii.
between man and man and exterminate all faith and integrity.
This is one of the abominable methods which *' that learned and
illustrious society of Catholic Priests " have made use of in
order- to accomplish their wild dream of universal empire. But
it is not the only one by any means. The Romish doctrine of
" Ambiguity and Equivocation " is about on a par with their
Mental Restriction theory. This theory briefly stated amounts
to this : — That if a proposition is susceptible of two meanings
then one may he expressed ivhcn it is not meaM, and the other, ivliich
is meant, may he reserved in the mind. Here we have it as plain
as language can make it : — " An equivocation of this kind does
not contain a lie, in whatever sense it may be received ; because
the external words truly signify that sense which the speaker
has in his mind, and thus differs from a purely mental reserva-
tion, in which the external words do not contain the mental
sense." " Hajusmodi cequivocatio non continet mendacium, in
qaocmnque sensu accipiatur, quia verha extorna vere sicmificant
ilium senswm, qunn loqaens in mente hahct, ct sic differt a restric-
tione nuse mentali, in qua verha externa non continent sensum
mentalemy Dens, Vol. IV., p. 311.
If these rules do not form a part of the Jesuit system of
** mental reservations," I should then very much like to know
what they do mean. Perhaps the renowned champion of
Eomanism at Thornhill, or some of his many assistants, will
enlighten your readers on the subject. Sanchez, 'one of the
fathers, says : — " A man may swear that he never did such a
thing (though actually he did it) , meaning within himself that
he did not do so on a certain day, or before he was born, or
understanding any other such circumstances, while the words
which he employs have no such sense as would discover his
meaning." The reason given by him and Filiutius, another
father, is that "it is the intention that determines the quality of
the action." They even furnish us with a surer method of
avoiding falsehood : — " After saying aloud, I swear that I have
not done that, to add in a low voice, to-day ; or, after saying
aloud I swear, to interpose in a whisper, that I say, and then
continue aloud, that I have done that." And Escobar, another
and greater of the Jesuit fathers, lays down the following de-
moralizing rule in reference to promises not confirmed by an
oath: — "Promises are not binding when the person making
them had no intention to bind himself." That is, in plain Eng-
lish, 'in the opinion of this good Jesuit, you can lie as much
as you please, if you have no intention to keep your pro-
mise when you make it, then according to our code of ethics, it
is not a lie at all. (See " Provincial Letters " by Pascal letter
IX., p. 277.)
With regard to oaths with heritics, the Church of Rome has
[ integrity,
earned and
use of in
ipire. But
iloctrine of
with their
d amounts
3 meanings
)ther, which
it as plain
5 kind does
d ; because
the speaker
ial reserva-
the mental
ndacium, in
; significant
'rt a restric-
lent sensum
, system of
lie to know
lampion of
[stants, will
one of the
did such a
limself that
IS born, or
the words
iscover his
IS, another
e quality of
method of
hat I have
ifter saying
and then
ar, another
)llowing do-
med by an
jon making
plain Eng-
e as much
your pro-
of ethics, it
ascal letter
f Rome has
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expressed views in very positive terms. We find Pope Gregory
IX., announcing without a blush the impious doctrine, that
" Christians should not regard the sanctity of an oath towards
him w^ho is the enemy of God, and who tramples under foot the
decrees of the Church." Coremorvin, Vol. I., p. 140.
These ultramontane doctrines, so clearly taught by standard
writers of the Church of Eome, are beyond all question, sub-
versive of the essential principles that bind civil society together.
It is high time for Protestants to get their eyes opened, and I
have no doubt that many of the more intelligent Roman
Cptholics will be disposed to ask the question, " are these things
really so ? " I have demonstrated that they are ; let him prove
they are not who can.
If the Rev. Mr. Egan does not redeem his promise, made in
his letter of April 11th, and defend his church, I must come to
the conclusion that in his opinion, no successful defence can be
made, or that he is conscious of his own incapacity to make it.
It is to me quite repulsive to be compelled to attack a prostrate
Antagonist, for that is the Rev. gentlemen's present position as
far as the question under discussion is concerned.
With regard to the doctrines of the Presbyterian Church, they
are quite capable of defence, but as that is not the question un-
der discussion, I must therefore for the present decline to enter
into it.
When Mr. Egan states that the Presbyterian Church is " at-
tempting to rob their Catholic fellow citizens of the civil and
religious rights received by the laws of the land," he states that
which is positively and most emijhatically untrue, aud when he
made the statement he knew that it was false. Why did he not
produce evidence to confirm his statement ? Does he suppose
the public will accept his simple statement as authoritative? If
so, he is much mistaken. This is in perfect harmony with the
course he has pursued all through this discussion. He expects
the public to accept his bald statements, unsubstantiated by
proof. I now publicly challange him to produce a single proof,
that either the Presbyterian or any other Protestant Church in
Canada has ever sought " to rob their Catholic fellow citizens
of their civil or religious rights." We cheerfully concede to them
all the civil and religious rights we claim for ourselves, hut no
more.
Mr. Egan in his frenzied zeal against Presbyterianism has
overshot the maik, and he actually exalts it to a pinnacle of power
and influence in this land, that it has never had the blind pre-
sumption to arrogate to itself. Note well his statement. He
says " other denominations of Protestants are used by them as
cats paws and will no doubt in due season receive their merited
but unwelcome recompense at the hand of predominant Presby-
M.'fl
t
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terianism." We hope our Episcopal, Methodist and other Pro-
testant friends will have a due appreciation of the very unique
compliment thus conferred upon them by the Eev. J. J. Egan
If they are pleased, we Presbyterians, certainly have no reason
to complain.
I am not altogether without hope that the Rev. Father Egan's
study of the Confession of Faith may yet be the means of leading
him away from the errors of his church, for according to his own
confession, he is not a Roman Catholic hi/ intcUujrnt amviciion
hilt only hy the accid'nit of hirtli, for in his letter of the 9th inst.
he says, " if I had been born of Protestant parents and received
a Protestant education it is likely I would be honestly what I
was brought up to be."
He complains that in my last better I have held up some of
the many peculiarities of his church to ridicule, and dismisses
the whole subject (as he has done every other subject) with a
single wave of the hand. All that I have to say is, if the church
of Rome does not wish to be held up to ridicule, it must then
cease to deal so extensively in the ridiculous. I can introduce
the rev. gentleman to a citizen of Toronto who is prepared to
affirm that when he was in Rome, in one of the churches there
he was shown two skulls of St. Peter, one a little one and the
other a big one, and when he asked for an explanation of this
somewhat mysterious phenomenon he was very gravely assured
that one was the skull of St. Peter when he was an infant, and
the other was his skull after he had grown to manhood. He
thinks that this subject has a tendency " to propagate infidelity."'
I have no doubt he is quite correct, and this probably accounts
for the fact that we find in France, and other Roman Catholic
countries that infidelity is rampant. I frankly confess that were
I compelled to make a choice between believing all the absurdities
of Romanism, and believing nothing, I should unhesitatingly
prefer the latter.
As the Rev. Mr. Egan is very anxious for me to prove that
the church of Rome is opposed to the free circulation of the Bible,
I shall be happy to accommodate him in my next.
For the present. Yours in defence of truth.
W. W. Percival.
The Manse, Eiclimond Hill, May 27th, 1889.
Pro-
nique
Egan
eason
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CHAPTEE XII.
ilgan's
fading
is own
vv-iioii
1 inst.
iceived
what I
Dme
of
smisses
with a
church -
st then
troduce
lared to
!S there
and the
L of this
assured
nt, and
d. He
ideUty.''
Iccounts
atholic
at were
lurdities
atingly
Ive that
|e Bible,
PIVAL.
Father Egan again deals with Mr. Percival's Proofs.
EXPOSES HIS USE OF A CONDEMNED PROPOSITION TO PPtOVE WHAT
IT DOES NOT PROVE, AND SHOWS THAT HE HAS
NO NEED OF ASSISTANCE BY CHALLENGING
MR. PERCIVAL TO AN ORAL
DISCUSSION.
Last \veek we were treated by Eev. Mr. Percival to a lengthy
■dissertation on Mental Restriction in the Catholic Church. No
doubt he would be pleased to find that the Catholic Church
teaches that lying is sometimes justifiable, for such doctrine is
one he stands very much in need of. The principle of Mental
Restriction is not a Roman Dogma. It is not a dogma at all.
The fact is that the Catholic Church does not command her
children at all tiixies and on all occasions to speak all the truth
they may happen to know, but she does command them never
to speak anything but the truth. She teaches them that when
they use words, which by their natural force convey a false sense,
they speak falsehood, whatever may have been their secret mean-
ing, and that knowingly and intentionally to use language cal-
culated to deceive the hearer, to convey to him a false meaning,
or a meaning different from that in the mind of him using it, is
to lie and to sin against God. The rev. gentleman who, in his
letter, asserts the contrary, is guilty of the very offence he would
fasten upon her, and has no excuse for his conduct. If he is
ignorant of her doctrine, he speaks rashly ; if he is not ignorant,
he is guilty of a wilful falsehood.
As far as I am aware Protestants hold and practice mental
restriction the very same as Catholics. The only difference is
that some Protestants turn up their sanctimonious visages in
))ious horror of it, and make very slovenly attempts to use it for
the sake of creating prejudice against Catholics, while they them-
selves have no scruple to tell downright lies. I have known cases
of Protestant culprits, before Protestant judges, being asked,
■" Do you plead guilty or not guilty? " they have answered,
" not guilty," though they were meaning, " it is your business
to find out." I have never known such evasions to be reproved
from the pulpit in any Protestant church, and this is a case of
mental restriction pure and simple. What would Mr. Percival
say to it ? Let him tell us.
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Again a priest is asked about something of which he has know-
ledge in the confessional: he can answer that he knows nothing
about it, that is, nothing that he can tell. A servant says, the
gentleman or lady of the house is not at home, meaning not to
be seen. I ask, are cases of this kind confined to Catholics alone,
or, are they ever known amongst Protestants ? I ask is it not
necessary that professional men, and others, should have some
way of evading impertinent questions, a straight answer to which
would compromise their clients, or injure others, without telling
a lie, which is essentially a sin and can't be lawful on any ac-
count ? This is wfll understood amongst intelligent and well
bred people. The thing like many others is liable to abuse, but
even the abuse is not confined to Catholics.
To prove with what conscientious facility Catholics can lie,
deceive and swear falsely, Eev. Mr. Percival says that " the
infallible Pope Innocent XL, gives his full sanction to that kind
of prevarication in the following proposition laid (hncn by Itim :
" If any, either alone or before others, whether asked or of his
own accord, or for the purpose of sport, or for any other object,
swears that he has not done something which in reality he has
done, by understanding something else, which he has not done,
or a different way from that in which he has done it, or any
other truth that is added, he does not really lie, nor is he per-
jured." " The Rev. gentleman has the same proposition after
in Latin, and the preample is : — " Prohatur cliam ex damnatione
Jmjns prop 36 Innoc XI. Si quis vel solus," c'tc. What will be
the surprise of yours readers who may not have already noticed
it, to find this very proposition was not laid down except to be
condemned by Innocent XL, and that it proves the very contrary
to what Mr. Percival would conclude. This appears from the
words in which the proposition is introduced — ex damnatione
liujus prop — which means from the condemnation of this propo-
sition. Such a consummate-piece of stupid ignorance it would
be hard to find, as to quote a condemned proposition, to prove
the very contradictory of what it does prove. And he asks with
a flourish what will your intelligent readers think of this si)eci-
men of Catholic moral philosophy — and I ask what will your
readers think of this specimen of supine ignorance. He goes
on, " If these rules do not form a specimen of the Jesuit sys-
tem of mental reservation, I should like to know what they do
mean." They do not, form a specimen, and Mr. Percival has
already sufficiently demonstrated his own ignorance to show that
he is not a competent judge. Perhaps, he says, the renowned
champion of Romanism at Thornhill, or some of his many^ as-
sistants, will enlighten your readers on the subject "^ have no as-
sistants: Ineednone. On what authority, I ask, does nemake that
statement ? I have asked him before to discuss some of these sub-
55
know-
othing
^s, the
not to-
5 alone,
3 it not
e some
3 which
tellhis
my ac-
rid well
ise, but
can lie,
it " the
lat khid
by hhn :
r of his
object,
he has
)t done,
,, or any
i he per-
3n after
nnatione
will be
noticed
»t to be
iontrary
from the
linialioue
propo-
, would
■jO prove
Isks with
Is speci-
lill your
iHe goes
juit sys-
Ihey do
Ival has
low that
kiowned
y as-
/enoas-
ike that
Lese sub-
jects or all, and he did not accept my challenge. Now I am prepared
at any moment, on any platform, without a moment's preparation,
to discuss any or all the subjects within the range of Moral or
Dogmatic Theology with him. Then I shall have no one to
assist me, and I promise to show up his ignorance of these sub-
jects even more than I have already done. "What do you say to
that, Mr. Percival ? He does not state the doctrines of Catho-
lic Theology correctly, on these nor on anyothermatters. It would
be an endless task to follow him in all his erroneous statements.
Pie has been entirely misled by relying on the authority of
Pascal and other writers of his stamp. He refers us to Pascal's
Provincial letters for an exposition of Catholic morality. He
might as well refer us to Voltaire's Philosophical Dictionary for
an exposition of the morality of the Gospel. Pascal was a Jan-
senist, not a Catholic. The Provincial letters are witty, but
v/icked, a tissue of lies, forgeries, and misrepresentations from
beginning to end, as has been amply proved over and over again.
I doubt if ever Mr. Percival read Pascal in the original, but by
quoting him in this connection he makes it manifest that he is
entirely unacquainted with the literature of modern philosophy.
He says, that according to my own confession I am not a Cath-
olic by conviction. I do not think that meaning can be justly
derived from the remark in my last letter. I think Mr. Percival
had better not make such remarks, as it might be easily retorted
that there were other reasons besides conviction, that brought
him over from the ministry of the Methodist, to that of the Pres-
byterian, church. ^.
The original question under discussion was, whether the
Catholic Church teaches the doctrine that the end justifies the
means. Now we have got over mental restriction, passing over
in silent contempt the ISible and other such minor points. Be-
hold how serenely we have been steering. Once upon a time, as
an Irish judge was presiding at a case of murder, the person said
to have been murdered walked into court, and the jury at once
declared the prisoner acquitted. To their utter amazement,
however, the judge pronounced sentence of death on the prisoner,
saying, " if he did not commit this murder, he stole my grey
mare six years ago, and he must hang anyhow." So if the
Catholic Church does not teach that the end justifies the means,
she has relics, skulls and bones, the wing of an archangel, the
step of Jacob's ladder, mental restrictions, and several other cor-
ruptions and errors, which must go the way of all false ivorship,
according to the second commandment as explained in the West-
minster Confession of Faith. Take care Mr. Percival how you
meddle with the alleged errors of Rome, for if they were all re-
formed too soon not a Presbyterian minister in Canada but
•would be thrown out of employment inside of one year. With
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foreordination as a patent right there would no longer be any
need of those ravishing discourses on the errors of Rome, which
were always sure to draw a crowd to the Presbyterian church.
So far Mr. Percival has not proved a single charge against
the Church of all that he has made ; neither did he retract.
Neither has he attempted to refute a single argument of mine.
Therefore, every charge that he has not proved after due warn-
ing, I look upon as a lie, and I look upon as conceded to the
cause of Catholic truth every argument that he has not even
attempted to refute.
Consequently, when he states that the Catholic Church
teaches that the end justifies the means, I put that down as lie
No. 1.
He says that the church is opposed to the circulation of the
Bible— lie No. 2.
He says the Pope cursed the Jesuits with bell, book and
candle — lie No. 3.
He says the Pope accused the Jesuits of teaching doctrines at
variance with those of the Holy See — lie No. 4.
He says that the Pope charged the Jesuits with having adopted
certain idolatrous ceremonies — lie No. 5, &c., &c.
As to the number of lies to be found in his letters their name
is legion. He speaks of the citizen of Toronto who was shown
two skulls of St. Peter, &c. I have seen myself in Pome, cicero-
nies who, for the sum of one franc, would show Mr. Percival, or
any other Pre-byterian minister whom he could stuff with such
silly nonsense, a dozen skulls of St Peter. Mr. Percival ought to
have more sense than to use such yarns as arguments.
Eev. Mr. Percival in his estimation of the Jesuits' teachings
betrays only his ignorance or malice, or both. The character
he ascribes to them he will find in its perfection in his own minis-
ters, and the best definition of f/csM/tJcaZ in the proper acceptation
of the term is a Presbyterian minister, the antithesis of a Jesuit.
Mr. Percival illustrates and accepts in his letters every element
of what he calls Jesuitism, except their well known scholarly
attainments.
Every one who has had any experience of the Presbyterian
clergy is aware that the principle that the end justifies the means
is the one on which they act, whether they avow it or not. No
one can read their writings against the church, even Mri Perci-
val, without perceiving that the principle of mental reservation,
or in plainer terms the right to lie, for the purpose of advancing
their object, is the principle which they practically adopt and
hold in constant requisition. Who ever heard of a Presbyterian
minister who was not ojf'iciallif the very impersonation of pride,
cant, hypocrisy, bigotry and cruelty. If such a one ever was,
we may be sure he did not live and die a Presbyterian. The"
^terian
I means
No
1 Perci-
r^ation,
mcing
l)t and
fterian
prick,
|r was,
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proof of this is found in Mr. Percival's own letters, as also in the
Confession of Faith. Take his estimate of Jesuitism, change
the name, and it is a faithful picture, as far as it goes, of the
proud, arrogant, bigoted, deceitful and persecuting Presbyterian
minister.
He says the doctrines of the Presbyterian Church are quite
capable of defence. That is indeed a brilliant defence and being
merely a gratuitous assertion is worthy of Mr. Percival. No
doubt if he only knew what these doctrines will be a few months
hence, he would be quite willing to defend them, but he does not,
and he thinks it better to pass them over in that off-handed way.
In any case they would be pretty sure to suffer by his defence,
as every doctrine he has so far attacked has gained by his oppo-
sition. What the Presbyterians will do with the Confession of
Faith, every doctrine in which they have regarded a.^ revealed by
God, it is hard to say, but if the Holy Ghost himself were to
appear in person to the Presbytery to make to them a special
revelation, they would be sure to send him back some clauses for
amendment.
He says Pope Gregory IX. announced the impious doctrine
that Christians should not regard the sanctity of an oath towards
him who is the enemy of God, &c. That very proposition was
condemned by Gregory IX. That is another specimt of stupid
ignorance or malice, and withal a specimen of Presbyterian tactics
in controversy.
Againhe says, "These ultramontane doctrines, soclearly taught
by writers of the Church of Rome, are beyond all question subver-
sive of the essential principles that bind civil society together."
Yes, if they were what he represents them ; but look at the means by
which he attempts to prove they are." He continues, " It is
high time for Protestants to get their eyes opened." There is
an appeal to bigotry. And then look at the means by which he
would prove that the church teaches these doctrines. He quotes
propositions, which being condemned, prove the very opposite.
Does the end justify the means ? Or does he quote the proposi-
tion and commit such a terrible blunder because he did not un-
derstand the Latin preamble, ex damnatioue Juijns propositionis.
If so, why did he not consult one of the Higli School teachers
who know Latin and who would not refuse this slight service.
Even the Jesuit Gury himself, chap. 3, no. 29 teaches omnis
electio medii malii est mala. All choop'" " of a bad means is
bad.
He says, ** We cheerfully concede to them (Catholics) all the
civil and religious rights we clftim for ourselves, but no more."
You do not, Mr. Percival, concede these thing cheerfully. If
you do, how do you keep the second commandment, which
obliges you to remove all false worship ? Which means, accord-
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ing to your Confession of Faith, every worship except the Pres-
byterian, the only true one. If you would concede to us the
same rights, what is to become of the law laid down in the
Confession, which obliges you to inflict manifold civil and eccles-
iastical pains on priests and Papists as the adversaries of true
reh'gion. If you would grant us the same rights, why are you
trying by condemned propositions, false statements, literary
frauds and other means so dishonorable than an honest man
would die of shame if he were detected in them, to prove that
we hold doctrines, to use the words in the lu,st paragraph of your
letter, subversive of the essential principles that bind society
together. And then you hint " it is time for Protestants to get
their eyes opened," and since you have proved that Catholics
are not fit for civil society, you would have them deprived of the
rights natural to ordinary citizens. I sincerely hope that one
of the modifications to be introduced into the Confession of
Faith may be that Presbyterian ministers may no longer be
obliged to slander us, create prejudice against us, and all this as
a means of " removdng all false worship," according to each
one's place and calling. Now, Mr. Percival's place and calling
is preaching, and he mast manage that so as to remove all other
systems of religion. They may expunge that from the Confession ,
as the laws of the land do not allow them to persecute, and the
Presbyterian clergy, the disciples of the cruel, bigoted, narrow-
minded Calvm (that is as far back as their apostolic succession
dates) do not like to see these laws a dead letter.
He says intelligent Roman Catholics will be disposed to ask
the question, " are these things really so'? I have demonstrated
that ^'i^y are, let him prove they are not who can." No. Mr.
Percival, you have not demonstrated that they are, but when
you quoted condemned propositions you proved the contrary, and
if you did not understand that they were condemned propositions,
it appears to me that what you particularly demonstrated was
your own ignorance. The glory of stirring up, or causing to be
stirred up, religious hatred, (what a contradiction) belongs to the
Presbyterians. The other denominations of whom the gentleman
has made an artificial parade, are no doubt persuaded that we
are wrong in our belief. Our conviction is precisely the same
in regard to their creed, but they are in the main content to
allow us to conduct our affairs in our way, and we certainly do
not disturb them in the management of theirs. Not so the zealots
among Presbyterians. Believers in their own election, and in
the exclusion of all others, they seem to thinlc that God has
commanded them to take charge of all the rest of mankind.
Mr Percival has stated that it matters not what denomination
a person belongs to provided he is a christian. If so why did he
not remain a Methodist, if it made no matter? Perhaps it was
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to seek higher degrees of christian perfection, but Methodists
say that this was not the precise reason. Of course I can't tell.
It is quite evident, however, that Mr. Percival never received
a regular educational course. He appears like one who has been
accustomed to entertain Sunday School children with narratives
savouring of the marvelous and not having been called to task,
has got accustomed to make statements regardless of their truth,
or otherwise. If he had received a fair college training, suppos-
ing average talent, he never would have fallen into the blunder
of quoting condemned propositions, which only defeat his own
purpose, or would never quote any but recognized standard
authors to prove his thesis. Having again and again been
convicted of literary forgeries, he comes to the front once more
apparently in utter disregard of his humiliation, showing thereby
that he is anything but a man of refined sensibilities. Does he
know what is the meaning of the preamble, ex damnatione liujus
prop ? If he does, why does he quote the prop ; if not, why should
he quote Latin about which he evidently knows nothing. Why
does Mr. Percival make such quotations which bring nothing but
ridicule on himself. Should he not have more respect for the
intelligence of his readers, or does he suppose that everyone is
as ignorant as himself? I am really sorry to be obliged to speak
in this style to one supposed to be a minister of the gospel, but
I find that nothing but plain language will cure him.
He has proved to his own satisfaction by condemned pro-
positions, that the church teaches doctrines subversive of social
order, but I can prove, not by principles repudiated by Presbyteri-
ans, but by those contained in the Confession of Faith, that
Presbyterians teach doctrines subversive of social order. I do
not say these doctrines are carried out as far as the only true
Presbyterian Church would desire, because they cannot. Should
the Confession be amended, it may turn out that God does not
teach here in Canada at all what he taught the Kirk in Scotland
in 1561. If the modifications are made it will thereby be
admitted thaf the Holy Ghost made a mistake when he taught
them that they must remove all false worship, though I fancy
if they could put that doctrine into practice they could easily
conclude that the Holy Ghost was right then. This remmds
me of what a certain man, worsted in an argument by a text
from St. Paul, replied. He said, "There exactly is where Paul
and I differ." As long as the Holy Ghost reveals to the
Presbytery the doctrine of persecution, he is all right as long
as they can carry these doctrines into practice, but when they
cannot, there is where they and the Holy Ghost differ.
The community in this country is made up of people professing
different creeds, all of these creeds false, according to Presby-
terian doctrine, except its own. Now, since all these practice
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false worship, and since Presbyterians are bound to remove all
false worship, it follows that they are bound to make a clean sweep
of the whole of us, except themselves. They are bound to this
''according to each one's place and calling." Consequently, the
minister in the pulpit, the author in the press, the teacher in
the school, the merchant, the judge on the bench, the juryman
in the box, in a word, all Presbyterians according to the com-
mand of God, as explained in the Confession of Faith, are bound
to remove all false worship — Conf. Q. 108, p. 150 — and con-
sequently teach doctrines subversive of social order.
In this supposed commandment of God (for God never made
a commandment for Presbyterians which he did r ' ^. make equally
for all denominations) is to be found the solution of that rest-
lessness, that turbulence and domineering which has stood forth
in the uniform history of Presbyterians, as a moral problem,
exciting the curiosity of those who were unacquainted with the
doctrinal principle from which it emanated. Suppose each de-
nomination were to make for itself such an obligation, and then
say that God had imposed it. What would be the consequence
on the hypothesis that all should try, as all would be bound to
keep the commandments of God. This doctrine as unequivocally
stated in their standards, ifreduced to practice would not tolerate
an individual of another creed in the land.
I think I have proved to any impartial reader, according to
the strict rules of logic, that Presbyterians teach doctrine sub-
versive of the principles which bind civil society together. This
is preciselj' what Mr. Percival charges Catholics with. To make
this clear I shall put it in the shape of a syllogism. Any deno-
mination that teaches as a tenet revealed by God that they are
bound to exterminate all other denominations, teaches in a
mixed community principles subversive of civil society. And
since Presbyterianism in its present standard, the Confession of
Faith, teaches this doctrine, consequently they teach doctrines
subversive of order in civil society. Mr Percival thinks that
studying the Westminster Confession of Faith is likely to make
me a Presbyterian. He will be a better judge of that when I
shall have got through explaining to him and others the Con-
fessio , of Faith.
I shull conclude this letter by an extract from a letter which
appeared in the Globe of May 27th, in reference to the Relics
of the Cross. — ,
In a controversy recently waged not a hundred miles from Toronto, one of
the contestants found himself reduced to the necessity of ridiculing certain
phases of the other's belief. In the course of a lengthy denunciation of Cath-
olic veneration of relics he committed himself to a statement which concerns
not Catholics alone, but all who wear the Christian name. He declares : —
In almost every chapel in Europe, and also in many in Canada, may be found
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pieces of the true Cross on which our Lord was crucified. If these were all
collected no douht they would form lumber enough to construct one of th©
largest buildings in Canada.
As a Catholic, I protest against any nan being called a christian who would
dare to sliow so infidel a spirit as the language of the above paragraph betrays.
Only the more ignorant infidels now urge this objection against the authenticity
of the existing relics of the Holy Cross. Will you allow me to repeat to this
christian minister who dons infidel armour, a reply which it may be pure waste
of time to give him, but whose force even infidels have owned. In the " Anti-
quary " of June, 1887, may be found the following:
M. Rohauld de Fleury has made a list of all the relics of the Cross in Europe
and Asia of which he can find any .ecord, and the sum amounts to 3,941,975
cubic millimetres — a very small part, indeed, of what would be required to
make a cross.
A simple calculation shows that 3,974,975 cubic millimetres are equal in Eng
lish measure to 0,139,217 of a cubic foot or to 240,5()72 cubic inches long, and
four inches square on the end (4 x 4 x 15), of which the learned editor of the
Antiquary might well say — A very small part of what would be required to
make a cross.
I intended commenting on the deplorable ignorance of the gentleman who
made the horrible assertion quoted at the head of this letter, but, as it has
occured to me that he may not have known that he was ignorant, I refrain, and
Conclude with an expression of my admiration for his fine audacity in making
the assertion at this time of day, an audacity worthy tha best of the infidel
encyclopmdists of the Voltairian era.
I remain yours in detecting and exposing falsehood, and clerical
ignorance.
J. J. Egan.
Thornhill, June 4th, 1889.
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Mr. Percival Refuses an Oral Discussion.
FINDING THAT FATHER EGAN DOES NOT COME UP TO HIS IDEAL OF
A GENTLEMAN, HE DECLINES ENTERING WITH HIM ON AN
ORAL DISCUSSION. — ENTERS ON THE REWARD
BUSINESS, AND WINDS UP DETRMINED
TO TREAT FATHER EGAN's
FUTURE EFFUSIONS WITH
SILENT CONTEMPT.
In last week's issue the Eev. Mr. Egan inflicts upon the public
four columns of trash, made up of low pot house yarns, vile per-
sonal abuse, glaring falsehoods, and blatant blasphemy. When
a controversialist has to resort to such weapons in order to de-
fend his cause, his case must indeed be desperate, and his stock
of arguments very low. Whilst I have no objection to discuss
this question, on its merits, in a gentlemanly manner either
through the medium of the press, or on the platform, yet I would
like to have a (jentleman for my opponent, and that the Rev.
J. J. Egan does not come in this category, is quite apparent
from his last letter. He furnishes us with a good illustration of
the truth of the old Roman proverb : — " Those whom the Gods
would destroy, they first make mad." Mr. Egan will remember
that that last word means insane
When Mr. Egan says that Pope Gregory XI. condemns the
proposition referred to in my last letter, he states that which is
positively false, and he must know it, if he knows anything about
the matter, which I very much doubt. Just look at his position
for a moment. He would have his readers believe that Dens
brings forward a Pope to condemn a proposition containing senti-
ments that he himself repeatedly advocates. That looks very
reasonable does it not ? That is just what you would expect an
intelligent Jesuit like Peter Dens to do, would you not ? Surely
a man must be in a very hard plight when he has to resort to
such a miserably silly subterfuge to try and get out of a diffi-
culty when he is fairly cornered. The method of escape was a
bold one, and well worthy of the reputation of the Thornhill
priest. Yet what better could you expect from a man who, in
this enlightened nineteenth century, has the unblushing effront-
ery to maintain, as Mr. Egan does in his last letter, that a lie is
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not a deliberate intention to deceive another. Such conduct demon-
strates the possession not only of the greatest mental torpor, but
of moral paralysis as well. The public can now easily under-
stand why Mr. Egan can pour out falsehood without the slightest
twinge of conscience, as his last letter domonstrates that he has
not even the most remote conception of what truth means.
As usual Mr. Egan takes up nearly the whole of his letter
with side issues. He says ibat Protestants lie as well as Eoman
Catholics, and gets off some silly talk about jjrisoners at the bar,
&c., &c., &c., but what has that to do with the question ? Ab-
solutely nothing. The question was not whether Protestants
do or do not lie as well as Poman Catholics, hut rather as to what
constitutes a lie in ethics. This is the question, and it must be
quite apparent to the public that Mr. Egan's views in regard to
the matter are in perfect accord with the views maintained by
Peter Dens, and the rest of the Jesuits. I may also add that
throughout this discussion his conduct has been in perfect har-
mony with his sentiments.
As any individual, or denomination, upon whom this illiterate
fanatic pours out the phials of his abuse and falsehood, will only
rise proportionately high in the estimation of the right-thinking
and more intelligent portion of the community, I therefore, per-
sonally, and the Presbyterian Chuich as a body, regard his ob-
probrious epithets, and low bar-room vulgarities, in the light .of
compliments, rather than otherwise.
Mr. Egan may, therefore, continue his eruptions as long as he
pleases and vomit forth his black and burning streams of abuse
and falsehood ; they shall go ,unnoticed by me in the future. A
sense of self-respect will prevent my having anything more to
do with a man who, according to his own statement, can recog-
nize no difference between truth and falsehood.
Mr. Egan concludes his letter by transcribing some absurd
twaddle that appeared in some of the Toronto papers, evidently
written by a Pomish Priest who had not the manliness to sign his
name, or even give his correct initials. Permit me to direct
Mr. Egan's attention to the following clipping from the " Am-
erican Protestant ";it will elibrd him a good chance to make mo-
ney :—
TO ALL ROMAN CATHOLICS.
$100 REWARD.
To any Roman Catholic who will find in the New Testament a single in-
stance of private auricular confession to either Priest or Apostle.
$200 REWARD.
To ony Roman Catholic who will point.out a single passage in the Scriptures,
which states that the Bishops of Rome, either as the successors of St. Peter,
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or in any other character, were to be in their succession the Heads of the Uni-
versal Church.
, S300 REWAED. , •
To any Roman Catholic who will prove from the scriptures that the use of
images was recommended either by Christ or his Apostles.
$400 REWARD.
To any Eoman Catholic who will show by the Scriptures, that Christian
Bishops and Priests are forbidden to marry.
5500 REWARD.
To any Roman Catholic who will discover in the Scriptures a single instance
of an Apostle of Christ offering up a prayer to God through Christ to be deliv-
ered from eternal flames by the merits and intercession of a Saint 1 — See R.
Miss. I, p. 527.
$1,000 REWARD.
To any Eoman Catholic who will furnish a single text of Scripture in which
Christ or His Apostles, or the evangelists, call the blessed Virgin Mary, " the
Queen of Heaven," " the Empress of the Universe," '• the Mediatrix between
God and man " ; or in which the Apostle prayed, or directed tho Church to
pray to her at all. — See R. Breviary.
Roman Catholics obtain money by the sale of prayers, beads, wax dolls, im-
ages, medals, scapulars, and numerous other trinkets, and pretending to grant
indulgences and deliver souls from purgatory. Why not earn a trifle by furnis-
hing proof texts in favor of Romanism ?
J. G. White,
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I reraain, Yours in defence of truth,
The Manse, Eichmond Hill, June 10th, 1889.
W. W. Percival.
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CHAPTEKXIV .
Father Egan deals with Mr. Percival's Idea of a
Gentleman.
CONCLUDING LETTER.
In his letter of the 30th ult., Rev.Mr. Percival promised to
prove that the Catholic Church was opposed to the circulation of
the Bible. Since then, however, he has made two important
discoveries, which preclude for him in future the possibility of
his having anything more to do with me. The first discovery
is that I am not a gentleman, and secondly he has suddenly
conceived most exalted sentiments of self respect. It is indeed
a great loss to him thathedidnotmuchsooner make these, or some
other discovery, that would give him a reasonable excuse before
the public for declining to enter upon a polemical controversy. It is
a pity his self respect did not come to his aid before he commenced
to make false statements, now known to be such; before he com-
menced to falsify authorities, and commit literary forgeries, of
which he has been plainly and duly convicted.
Rev. Mr. Percival's idea of a gentleman is somewhat unique,
and as to the individual it must be distinguished, whether he
is a Catholic Priest, or a Presbyterian minister; for in his
estimation this makes quite a difference. If a Priest; he would
show his good breeding, by allowing his Church to be slandered,
her doctrines misrepresented, and her children insulted, without
a word of protest. If on the other hand, he is a Presbyterian
minister, he can caluminate, falsify quotations, alter Papal Briefs,
quote condemned propositions, to serve his purpose — in a word,
lie without stint, in measure, about Catholics, and still be, not
only a gentleman and a scholar, but deserve honorable mention
in Foxe's Book of Martyrs, for suffering the cruel persecution of
having his frauds and forgeries exposed. Behold what immunity
is enjoyed by those who are foreordained to elictism ? as Presby-
terians are, who alone, belong to the "Church of our common
Lord."
Thus by malignant falsehood, have these clerical gentlemen
sought notoriety in the service of God, and their conduct on this
subject, has long since formed a topic of condemnation, and has
by its excess, and extravagance nauseated public taste, and be-
yond all doubt, raised the spirit of inquiry in the detection, of
this indecent imposture and now universal exposure.
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He could not afford, to meet me on a platform, because, for-
sooth, as he alleges I am not a gentleman. Gcntlemaii or not,
I could easily show, when brought face to face, with theological
works which he undertook to review, how little he knew about
them. He never read these works, perhaps, never saw them,
he could not translate, much less understand one- page of them
as is evident, and yet he has the cool, placid audacity to
criticise them.
Since however, according to the Westminister
Faith, everything that comes to jmss is foreord
that the decree went forth that Mr. Percival &.
cowardly attacks on Catholics, and that he cou 4
style of his warfare, to the extent even of sometimes telling the
truth. It was, likewise, foreordained that I should expose his
forged mistatements, and as neither of us could resist the decree
of the Almighty, no blame attaches itself to either of us, and
we can cry quits. But he wants a gentleman to discuss with.;
I am afraid we shall have to scn^l a great way off to procure one
who will come up to his ideal.
In the beginning of our correspondence I gave him some good
advice; but not believing, perhaps, that I meant to be friendly
towards him, he, like a wayward boy, did not mind, and the re-
sult is that he has fallen repeatedly into the pits which he dug
out for himself. I warned him against second hand quotations,
and he would not mind. I advised him, in regard to his public
lectures, to select subjects about which he knew something; and
he will have reason for many a day to bewail in the bitterness
of his heart, that he did not take my advice. It is an old saying
that children should not play with edged tools. It is very danger-
ous amusement for children, because they do not realise the
danger of such tools. Theology is a dangerous thing for some
people to play with, and especially for those who know nothing
about it. We have had recently a strikmg illustration of this
truth in Richmond Hill.
I am told that some people are very much displeased that this
controversy should have taken place ; they feign to be scandalized
that clergymen should quarrel after this fashion. While Mr.
Percival was drawing large crowdsto his church by slandering and
misrepresenting Catholics, it was all right; but when the tables
began to turn, and his frauds were exposed, these christian people
began to discover that such controversies are uncharitable and
do not make conversions either way. In other words, Mr. Per-
cival should have had his own way.
I now ask any candid reader, has he proved one of his state-
ments, or met one of my arguments ? The controversy arose
because I called upon him to prove his statement that the Church
teaches that the end justifies the means. Has he proved that ?
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I leave the public to judge. He charges me with raising side
issues, but I ask, who introduced the Scott Act, the Bible, relics,
bones, skulls, mental restriction, &c., &. '? and if I followed him
in these matters it was because if 1 had not done so he would
have said it was because I could not. Just as I say now that if
he did not take up the Bible, or the Westminster Confession, it
was because he dare not. And still he talks as if he had proved
everything, and pretends he has great confidence, like the boy
who whistles when passing a grave yard to keep up his courage
and make believe he is not a bit scared.
It is strange that Mr. Percival should have quoted a proposition
cdhdemned by Innocent XI., to show that Innocent XI. approved
of the doctrine which he condemned. He made the Pope as
ridiculous as he made himself when he said that be had never
stated of the Jesuits that they taught that the end justifies the
means, and in his next letter tried to prove they did teach that
doctrine. This is a strange world. The Prop, in question is
No. 26, not 30. Propositiones DamnaUe A. S. S. Papal Innoccntv)
XI. Feria V die 2 Martil 1779. It is page 618 of Gury Vol. 2.
I can show it to any one who calls, or I will leave the Vol. on
exhibition in Eichmond Hill if desired.
As long as Mr. Percival confines himself to preaching Pres-
byterianism, blasphemous though that creed is in its consequences,
I have no inclination to interfere, but when he misrepresents the
Catholic religion, I shall draw the line there.
As to the rewards which he has published. Suppose lunder-
took to prove these matters from scripture, who would be judge
as to whether they were proved or not '? We find among Pres-
byterians some quoting scripture to prove, for example, the doc-
trine of foreordination, and others quoting scripture to prove the
contrary. Mr. Percival being judge, he would not, no matter
how clearly I had proved these doctrines, decide in my favor.
Mr. Percival accuses me of " blatan*t blasphemy," because I
demonstrated the blasphemous tendency of the Confession of
Faith. I promised to review the Confession, and intended doing
so at some length if this controversy continued. I shall give
one letter on the subject distinct from this. I had been a long
time on the defensive, but at length I decided to carry war into
Africa. For that purpose I took to studjdng the Westminster
Confession, and it will l)e seen it has not made me a Presbyterian.
With this letter I shall close, and I submit it to the readers
whether my opponent has not utterly failed to prove any charge
he has made against the Church. He has indeed urged against
her some of the misrepresentations oi 3 past three hundred
years, wielded with all the force which ignorance of, and pre-
judice against, our real doctrines could impart. But what has
he done besides ? Even in this has he ever planted his foot in
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Bj, fixed posit i (HI from which he has not been driven by force, not
of assertion, but of facts, authorities and argument ? Even in
point of literary courtesy and polite language, I do not shrink
from the candid judgment even of the Presl)yterian reader him-
self. It is to be admitted, that when he made false statements,
or quoted authorities which are untrue, I pointed this out in i)lain
language, calling a spade a spade. But for this, the blame be-
longs to him, not to me.
•For the rest, with all good wishes for his l)etter knowledge of
the sadly calumniated religion, which he has assailed, as well as
for liis happiness here and hereafter, ^. .
I remain yours in chastising bigotry.
J. J. Egan.
Thornhill, June 17th, 1889.
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The Westminster Confession
AND WH.VT IT LOGICALLY
LEADS TO.
It is not my purpose to discuss the whole of the Westminster
Confession of Faith. It is only the article to which objection
has been made recently by some of the most brilliant minds of
the Presbj'terian denomination that I wish to subject to critical
review.
Article III. of chapter III. reads as follows : — " By the decree
of God for the manifestation of His glory some men and angels
are predestined into everlasting life, and others foreordained
to everlasting death.
This foreordination, according to the Confession of Faith, pro-
ceeds not on the ground of merit or demerit in the individual
foreordained, but is absolutely independent of all provision on
the part of God of such merit or demerit in the individual, for
the article II. of the same chapter declares : —
" Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass
upon all supposed conditions, yet hath He not decreed anything
because he foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to
pass upon such conditions."
According to the teaching of these articles contained in the
Presbyterian Faith, God's decrees do not depend or any contin-
gencies that may happen. If a man goes to heaven it is not be-
cause he has lived a virtuous life on earth, nor because he has
believed the truths of the natural and supernatural order, nor
because he has kept the moral law engraved by the finger of God
on every man's heart, nor because he has followed the dictates
of conscience, nor because he has observed the commandments
of God, luit simply and only because God has decreed that he
should go to heaven. If that same man trampled all the laws
of God and man under foot, if he committed every imaginable
crime that a depraved heart could conceive, if he were a blood-
thirsty murderer, a besotted drunkard, an unprincipled thief, a
filthy polygamist, if he heaped crime on crime, till the wicked-
ness of Sodom and Gomorrah were all concentrated in himself,
and persevered in his diabolical malice till the last breath of life
had left him, and died without repentance, he would go to heaven
all the same.
Consequently, according to the Westminster Confession of
Faith, it does not matter a row of pins, as far as eternal destiny
is concerned, what kind of life a man leads on earth. If he is
predestined to heaven, he will get there even if he is as wicked as
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Lucifer, and if he is predestined to hell he will go to hell, even
if he is as good and holy as a seraph that stands before the throne
of God.
Is it possible that men could put such a doctrine in practice ?
Fletcher of Madely, who published seven volumes, checks to
Antinomian Galvanism, in vindication of John Wesley's change
in religion, quotes an hon. member of Parliament : — " Once my
brother " he says * 'but now my opponent, who maintains in his pub-
* lished treatise that murder and adultery do not hurt the elected,
but even work for their good. My sins, " he adds, "may displease
God, my person is always acceptable to him. Though I should
outsin Manasses himself, I should not be less a pleasant child,
because God always views me in Christ. Hence in the midst of
adulteries, murders, and incests he can address me with : ' Thou
art all fair my love, my undefiled, there is not a spot in thee.'
It is most pernicious error of the schoolmen to distinguish sin
according to the fact, not according to the person. Though I
highly blame those who say let us sin that grace may abound,
yet, adultery, incest and murder shall, upon the whole, make
me holier on earth and merrier in heaven."
According to the Confession of Faith, heaven is not a reward
of virtue, and hell is not a punishment of sin. It is vain to hold
out heaven as an encouragement to lead a life of godliness, and
to threaten the punishment of hell as a check on wickedness.
Either I am predestined to heaven, or I am predestined to hell.
If I am predestine'I to heaven, any evil I may deliberately choose
to commit cannot change the decree, and deprive me of the
happiness that awaits me. Why, then, should I put myself to
the trouble of steering after godliness ? Why pray *? Why go
to church ? Why be pure and charitable, and humble, and hon-
est, and sober ? If J am predestined to hell, where would be the
use in trying to avert what cannot be averted '? Why should I
keep the law of God who is determined to damn me if I have
kept all his commandments, just as mercilessly as if I had broken
them all '? If this article of the Faith be true, then why have a
Bible and read it *? If I am predestined to heaven I may pitch
the Bible to the dogs, and in its stead amuse myself with reading
dime novels ; I will get to heaven all the same. If I am predest-
ined to hell, the using of all the Bibles on earth will not keep
me from falling into it. Why have churches, gorgeous and ex-
pensive ? Why have ministers of religion and pay them high
salaries "? What use is it to preach the gospel to people who
will get to heaven without it, and cannot avoid hell with it ?
This article of Presbyterian faith, laid down in tlie Westminster
Contession, if logically carried out, must convert the human race
into a race of monsters. Can such a faith be the outcome of
divine insp .ration, or is it not rather the work of cruel and blood-
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thirsty men, such as John Calvin was, who could conscientiousv
burn at the stake those that differed from him in religious opin^"
oris ?
What amuses us most of all is that the Presbyterian ministers,
who all subscribe to the Confession, whether they believe it or
not, are the very ones who have been howling loudest against
Jesuits, and attributing to them teachings subversive of morality.
If the doctrines laid down in chapter III. of the Westminster Con-
fession are not subversive of all morality, I w^ould like to know
the meaning of morality in the Presbyterian sense. I am sure
no Jesuit has ever taught that a man shall get to heaven against
his will, or that a man will be damned whether he deserves it or
not. 'No Ultramont'ine has ever taught that God has determined
to damn a certain definite numl)er of intelligent beings whom He
has himself created, and to damn them irrespective of their
merits or demerits, and for no other reason but to manifest is
glory. If God is just and can condemn no one except for His
own deliberate sin, and the Presbyterian doctrine as laid down
in the Westminster Confession is true, then it follows that God
is the deliberate author of sin. He forces intelligent beings to
sin and then condemns them for their sin, which they cannot
avoid, because He does force them to it ! Did human mind ever
conceive anything more hideous than this ?
" God " says the Confession, " from all eternity did by the
most holy council of His own will, freely and unchangeably ordain
whatsoever comes to pass." Therefore, if a man is a Papist, God
so ordained it ; and if he is a Jesuit, God so ordained it ; and if
God so ordained it, what right have Presbyterians to growl about
i^ ? If everything that comes to pass was ordained by God, then
i( was ordained by God that Mercier should pass the Jesuit
Estate's Bill, and what right have Presbyterian ministers to
howl about it ?
Who are the elect ? W' .o, of course, but the Presbyterians,
being assured of their preordination m eternal life by the fact
that they are fallen in Adam and redeemed in Christ. No one
is redeemed except the elect (Art. VI), but they certainly hold
that they are redeemed or saved. All others being ordained for
hell ought to be helped to hell as promptly as possible, so as not
to deprive God of that glory which He deserves from the decreed
damnation of them. Therefore, all others, and especially 'Pap-
ists, must be exterminated, and that glory given to God, which
is accoiding to the Westminster Conljssion, to be derived from
their eternal damnation. I think this reasoning is logical, but
I hope the articles in the Confession which justify such reason-
ing may be greatly modified.
J. J. Egan.
ThornhiU, June 17th, 1889.