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 Mr. Speaker, 
 
 I Rife, in acquittal of my engagement to thehoufe. In 
 obedience to the ftrong and juft requifition of my 
 conftituents, and, I am perfuaded, in conformity to the 
 unanimous wiihes of the whole nation, to Cubmit to the 
 wifdom of parliament, *' A plan of reform in the con> 
 ** ftitution of feveral parts of the public oeconomy/* 
 
 I have endeavoured, that this plan £hould include in 
 its execution, a coniiderable reduction of improper ex- 
 pence i that, it fhould eiFed a converflon of unprofitable 
 titles into a produdive eftate ; that, it fhould lead tOy 
 and indeed almoft compel, a provident adminiftration of 
 fuch fums of public money as muft remain under dif- 
 cretionary trufts ; that, it ihould render the incurring 
 debts on the civil eftabitfhment'( which muft ultimately 
 affedt national ilrength and national credit) fo very 
 difficult, as to become next to impracticable. 
 
 But what, I confefs, was uppermoft with me, whaf 
 I bent the whole force of my mind to, was the reduflioa 
 of that corrupt influence, which is itfelf the perennial 
 fpring of all prodigality, and of all diforder; which 
 loads us, more than millions of debt; which takes away 
 vigour from our arms, wifdom from our councils, and 
 every ihadow of authority and credit from the laoft 
 veneraUlf parts of our cooftitution* . 
 
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 . Sir, I aflurc you^ very folcmnly, and with a vcrjr 
 clear confcicnce, that nothing in the world has led me 
 to fuch an undertaking, but my zeal for the honour of 
 this houfe, and the fettled, habitual, fyftematic aft*ec- 
 tioiv I bear to the caufe, and to the principles of go- 
 vernment. 
 
 I enter perfectly into the nature and confe(^uencc» 
 of my attempt ; and I advance to it with a tremor that 
 Ihalccs me to the inmofl: fibre of my frame. I feel» 
 that I engage in a bufmefs, in itfelf moft ungracious, 
 totally wide of the courfe of prudent conduct ; and I 
 really think, the moft completely adverfe that can be 
 imagined, to the natural turn and temper of my own 
 mind. I know, that all parfimony is of a quality ap- 
 proaching to unkindnefs } and that (on fome perfon or 
 other) every reform muft operate as a fort of punifli- 
 ment. Indeed the whole clafs of the fevere and re- 
 ilridive virtues, are at a market almoft too high for 
 humanity. What is worfe, there are very tew of 
 thofe virtues which are not capable of being imi- 
 tated, and even outdone in many of their moft ftriking 
 efFcfts, by the worft of vices. Malignity and envy 
 will carve much more deeply, and finiih much more 
 ftiarply, in the work of retrenchment, than frugality 
 and providence. I do not, therefore, wonder that 
 gentlemen have kept away from fuch a taflc, as well 
 from good nature as from prudence. Private feeling 
 might, indeed, be overborne by It giflative reafon } and a 
 man of a long-fighted and ftrong-nerved humanity, 
 might bring himfelf, not fo much to confider from whom 
 he tfikes a fuperfluous enjoyment, as for whom in the 
 end he may preferve the abfolute necefTaries of life. 
 
 fiut it is much more eafy to reconcile this mea- 
 Aire to humanity, than to bring it to any agreement with 
 prudence. I do not mean that little, felfiih, pitiful, 
 baftard thing, which fometimes goes by the name of a 
 family in which it is not legitimate, and tb whieh it is 
 a difgrace ;— I mean even that public and enlarged 
 prudence, which, apprehenfive of being difabled 
 from rendering acceptable fervices to the world, with- 
 holds itfelf from thofe that are invidious. Gentlemen 
 who are, with me, verging towards the decline of life, 
 and are apt to form their ideas of kings from kings of 
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 d has led me 
 >e honour of 
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 onfeq,uencc9 
 tremor that 
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 ungracious. 
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 ^>at can be 
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 quality ap- 
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 of punifli- 
 re and re- 
 ' high for 
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 ^ing imi- 
 ft ftriking 
 and envy 
 "ch more 
 frugality 
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 former times, might dread the anger of a reigning^ 
 prince; — they who are more provident of the future^ 
 or by being young are more interefted in it, might trem- 
 ble at the refentment of the fuccelTor } they might fee a 
 long, dull, dreary. Unvaried vifto of defpair and exclu- 
 iion, for half a century^ before them. This is no plea- 
 fant profped^ at theoutfet of a political journey. 
 
 Bcfides this. Sir, the private enemies to be made in all 
 attempts of this kind arc innumerable ; and their enmity 
 will be the more bitter, and the more dangerous too» 
 becaufe a fenfe of dignity will oblige them to conceal 
 the caufe of their refentment. very few men of 
 great families and extenfive connections, but will 
 feel the fmart of a cutting reform, in fome clofe re- 
 lation, fume bofom friend, fome pleafant acquaintance, 
 fome dear protected dependant. Emolument is taken 
 from fome ) patronage from others ; obje^s of purfuit 
 from all. Men, forced into an involuntary indepen- 
 dence, will abhor the authors of a blefling which ia 
 their eyes has fo very near a refemblance to a curfe^ 
 When officers are removed^ and the offices remain, you 
 may fet the gratitude of fome againft the anger of 
 others} you may oppofe the friends you oblige againfl 
 the enemies you provoke^ But fervices of the prefent 
 fort create no attachments. The individual good felc 
 in a public benefit, is comparatively fo fmali, comes 
 round through fuch an involved labyrinth of intricate 
 and tedious revolutions } whilft a prefent perfonal de- 
 triment is fo heavy, where it falls, and fo inftant in 
 its operation, that the cold commendation of a public 
 advantage never was, and never will be^ a match for the 
 quick fenfibility of a private lofs : and you may de- 
 pend upon it. Sir, that when many people have an 
 inttfreft in railing, fooner or later, they will bring a 
 coni'iderable degree of unpopularity upon any meafure. 
 So that, for the prefent at lea(V, the reformation will 
 operate againfl the reformers } and revenge (as againft 
 them at the leaft) will produce all the effeCls of corrup- 
 tion. 
 
 This, Sir, is almoft always the cafe, where thi 
 plan has compleat I'uccefs. But how ftands the matter 
 in the mere attempt ? Nothing, you know, is more, 
 vommofi, than for men to wifh, and call loudly too, for a 
 
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 reformation, who, when it arrives, do by no inean<^ 
 4ike the feverity of its afpedl. Reformation is one 
 of thofe pieces which muil be ptit at ibme diftance in 
 order to pleafe. Its greateft favourers love it better ia 
 the abftra^i than in the fubftance. When any old pre- 
 judice of their own, or any intereft that they value, is 
 touched, they become fcrupulous, they become captio\is, 
 and every man has his feparate exception. Some pluck 
 out the black hairs, feme the grey •, one point muft be 
 given up to one ; another point muft be yielded to ano- 
 ther ; nothing is fufFered to prevail upon its own prin- 
 ciple: the whole is fo frittered down, and disjointed, that 
 fcarcely a trace of the original fchenK remains I Thus, 
 |)etween the refiftance of power, and the unfyftematical 
 procefs of popularity, the undertaker and the under- 
 taking are bodi expofed, and the poor reformer is hifled 
 off the ftage, both by friends and foes. 
 
 Obferve, Sir, that the apology for my undertaking 
 (an apology i^ich, though kmg, is no longer than ne- 
 cefTary) is not grounded on my want of the fulleft fenfe 
 of the difficult and invidious nature of the taflc I under- 
 take. I rifque odium if I fucceed, and. contempt if I 
 fail. My excufe muft reft in mine and your convic- 
 tion of the abfolute, urgent necejpty there is, that fome- 
 tiung of the kind (hould be done. If there is any facri- 
 ficc to be made, either of eftimation or of fortune, the 
 fmalleft is the beft. Commanders in chief are not to be 
 put upon the forlorn hope. But indeed it is neceflary 
 that die attempt (hould be made. It is neceflary from 
 our own political circumftances ; it is neceflary from 
 the operations of the enemy ; it is necefTary from the 
 demands of the people ; whofe defires, when they do not 
 militate with the ftable and eternal rules of jufttce and 
 reafon (ruleswhich are above us, and above them) ought 
 to be as a law to a Houfc of Commons. 
 
 As to our circumftances ; I do not mean to aggravate 
 the difficulties of them, by the ftrensth. of any colour- 
 ing whatfoever. On the contrary, I obferve, and ob- 
 fer,ve with pleafure, that our affairs rather wear a more 
 promifme afpedt than they did on the opening of this 
 feffion. \Ve have had fome leading fuccefles. But 
 thofe who rate them at the higheft (higher a great deal 
 indeed than I dare to do) afe of opinion, that, upon 
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 the ground of fuch advantages, we cannot at this time 
 liope to make any treaty of peace, which would not be 
 ruinous and completely difgraceful. In fuch an anxious 
 ftate of things^ if dawnings of fuccefs ferve to animate 
 our diligence, they are good ; if they tend to increafe 
 our preiumption, they are worfe than defeats. The 
 flate of our affairs fhail then be as promifing as any one 
 may choofe to conceive it : Tt is however but promifing. 
 We muft recollect, that with but half of our natural 
 Arength, we are at war againft confederated powers who 
 have fingly threatned us with ruin : We muft recolledV, 
 that whim we are left naked on one fide, our other flank . 
 i» uncovered by any alliance ; That whilft we are weigh- 
 ing and balancing our fuccefTcs againft our lofTes, we 
 are accumulating debt to the amount of at leaft four- 
 teen millions in the year. That lofs is certain. 
 
 I have no wifh to deny, that our fuccefles are as bril- 
 liant as any one choofes to make them ; our refources too 
 may, for me, be as unfathomable as they are rcprefent- 
 ed. Indeed they are juft whatever the people poiTefs, 
 and will fubmit to pay. Taxing is an eafy bufinefs. Any 
 projector can contrive new impofitions ; any bungler 
 can add to the old. But is it altogether wife to have no 
 other bounds to your impofitions, than the patience of 
 thofe who are to bear them ? 
 
 All I claim upon the fubjeel of your refources is this, 
 that they are not likely to be increafed by wafting them.— 
 I think I fliall be permitted to aftumc, that a fyftem of 
 frugality will not leften your riches, whatever they may 
 be i — I believe it will not be hotly difputed, that thofe 
 refources which lie heavy on the fubieiSt, ought not to be 
 objects of preference ; that they ought not to be the very 
 firji choice^ to an honeft reprefentative of the people. 
 
 This is all, Sir, that I ihall fay upon our circumftan- 
 ces and our refources : I mean to fay a little more on 
 the operations of the enemy, becaufe this matter feems 
 to me very natural in our prefent deliberation. When 
 I look to the other fide of the water, I cannot help recol* 
 letting what Pyrrhus faid on reconnoitering the Roman 
 camp, ** Thefe Barbarians have nothing barbarous in '\ 
 ♦* their difcipline." When I look, as I have pretty care- 
 fully looked, into the proceedings of the French king, V 
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 gcAius of arbitrary finance ; none of the bold frauds 
 of bankrupt power; none of the wild {(ruggles, and 
 plunges, of defpotifm in diftrefs; — no lopping off from 
 the capital of debt } — no fufpenfion of intercft ; — no 
 robbery under the name of loan ; — no raifing the value, 
 no dcbafing the fubftance of the coin. I fee neither 
 Louis the fourteenth, nor Louis the fifteenth. On the 
 contrary, I behold with afloniihment, rifing before me, 
 by the very hands of arbitrary power, and in the very 
 midfl of war and confufion, a regular, methodical fyf- 
 tem of public credit $ I behold a fabric laid on the na- 
 tural and folid foundations of truft and confidence 
 among men i and rifmg, by fair graaations, order over 
 order, according to the juft rules 6f fymmetry and art. 
 What a reverfe of things ! Principle, method, regula- 
 rity, oeconomy, frugality, juflice to individuals, and 
 care of the people, are the refources with which France 
 makes wa: upon Great Britain. God avert the omen ! 
 But if we fhould fee any genius in war and politics arife 
 in France, to fecond what is done in the bureau I—- 1 
 turn my eyes from the confequences. 
 
 The noi)le Lord in the blue ribbon, lafl y^s^r, treat- 
 ed all this with contempt. He never could conceive it 
 poflible that the French minifter of finance could go 
 through that year with a loan of but feventeen hundred 
 thoufand pounds ; and that he fhould be able to fund 
 that loan without any tax. The fecond year, how- 
 ever, opens the very fame fccne. A fmall loan, a loan 
 of no more than two millions five hundred thoufand 
 pounds, is to carry our enemies through the fervice of 
 this yearalfo. No tax is raifed to fund that debt ; no tax 
 is raifed for the current fcrvices. I am credibly informed 
 that there is no anticipation whatfoever. • Compenfa- 
 tions arc corredly made, Old debts continue to be funk 
 as in the time of profound peace. Even payments which 
 their treafury had been authorized to fufpend during 
 the time of war, are not fufpended. 
 
 A general reform, executed through every department 
 ef thf rfvenuii creates an annual income of more than 
 
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 oflScei are taken away, or who, in any other way, fuffcr by the new ar- 
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 h^lf a million, Tvhilft it facilitates and ftmplifies all the 
 fun£li<Mis of adminiftration. The king's houfehold-r-zt 
 the rrmoteft avenues to which, all reformation has been 
 hitherto flopped — that hoiiiehold, which has been the 
 ftrong hold of prodigJity, the virgin fortrefs which 
 was never before attacked — has been not only not de- 
 fended, but ijc has, even in the forms, been furrendered 
 by the king to the oeconomy of his miniiler. No 
 capitulation } no referve. CCconomy has ei\tered in 
 triumph into the public fplendour of the monarch, 
 into his private amufements, into the appointn^ents of 
 his neared and higheft relations. CEconomy and pub- 
 lic fpirit have made a beneficent and an honefi: fpoil ; 
 they have plundered, from extravagance and luxury, for 
 the ufe of fubftantial fervice, a revenue of near four 
 hundred thoufand pounds. The reform of the ^nances. 
 Joined to this reform of the court, gives to the public 
 nine hundred thoufand pounds a year and upWards. 
 
 The minifter who does thefe things is a great 
 man — But the king who deiires that they ihould 
 be done, is a far greater. We mqft do juftice to 
 our enemies —Thefe are the a£ls of a patriot king. 
 I am not in dread of the vad armies of France : I 
 am not in dread of the gallant fpirit of its brave and 
 numerous nobility : I am not alarmed even at the 
 great navy which has been fo miraculoufly created. 
 All thefe things Louis the fourteenth had before. V/ith 
 all thefe things, the French monarchy has more than 
 once fallen proftrate at the feet of the public faith of 
 Great Britain. Jt was the want of public credit 
 which difabled France from recovering after her defeats, 
 or recovering even from her viitories and triumphs. It 
 was a prodigal court, it was an ill-ordered revenue, 
 that fapped the foundations of all her greatnefs. Credit 
 cannot exift under the arm of neceflity. Neceffity 
 Itrikes at credit, I allow, with a heavier and quicker 
 Mow under an arbitrary monacchy, than under a limited 
 and balanced government : but Ihll neceflity and cre- 
 dit are natural enemies, and cannot be long recon- 
 ciled in any fituation. From neceflity and corruption, 
 a free fhite may lofe the fpirit of that complex con- 
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 the other hand, 1 am far from being ftire, that t mo- 
 narchy, when once it is properly regulated, may not 
 for a long time, furnifh a foundation for credit upon 
 the folidity of its maxims, though it affords no ground 
 of trufl in its inftitutions. lam afraid I fee in England, 
 and in France, fomething like a beginning of both thefe 
 thines* I wifli I may be found in a miftake. 
 
 This very fhort, and very imperfe£l ftate of what 
 is now going on in France (the laft circumflances of 
 which I received in about eight days after the regiftry - 
 of the * edi£l) I do not, Sir, lay before you for any in- 
 vidious purpofe. It is in order to excite in us the fpirit 
 of a noble emulation. — Let the nations make war upon 
 each other (fmce we muft make war) not with a low . 
 and vulgar malignity, but by a competition of virtues. 
 This is the only way by which both parties can gain 
 by war. The French have imitated us j let us, through 
 them, imitate ourfelves ; oyrfelves in our better and hap- 
 pier days. If public frugality, under whatever men, or 
 in whatever mode of government, is national ftrength, 
 it is a ftrength which our enemies are in pofleflion of 
 before us. 
 
 Sir, I am well aware, that the ftate and the refult of 
 the French ceconomy which I have laiti before you, 
 are even now lightly treated by fome, who ought never to 
 fpeak but from information, rains have not been fpared, 
 to reprefent them as impoAtions on the public. Let 
 me tell you. Sir, that the creation of a navy, and a two 
 years war without taxing, are a very fingular fpecies 
 of impofture. But be it fo. For what end does Ncckar 
 carry on this delufion ? Is it to lower the eftimation of 
 the crown he ferves, and to render his own admini- 
 ftration contemptible ? No ! No ! He is confcious, that 
 the fenfe of mankind is fo clear and decided in favour 
 of ceconomy, and of the weight and value of its refour> 
 ces, that he turns himfelf to every fpecies of fraud and 
 artifice, to obtain the mere reputation of it. Men do 
 not aflFe£l a conduct that tends to their difcredit. Let us, 
 then, get the better of Monfleur Neckar in his own way 
 —Let us do in reality what he does only in pretence.— 
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 good management </ fuch ufe to France, and is the 
 fubftance to be fo mifchievous to England ? Is the very 
 conftitution of nature fo altered by a iea of twenty 
 miles, that oeconomy ihould give power on the conti- 
 nent, and that profufion fliould give it here ? For God's 
 fake let not this be the only faQiion of France which 
 we refufe to copy. 
 
 To the laft kind of necelfity, the defires of the peo- 
 ple, I have but a very few words to fay. The minifters 
 feem to conteft this point } and afFe£fc to doubt, whether 
 the people do really defire a plan of oeconomy in the 
 civil government. Sir, this is too ridiculous. It is 
 impoffible that they fliould not defire it. It is impoffible 
 that a prodigality which draws its refources from their 
 indigence, fliould be pleaflng to them. Little fa£lions 
 of penftoners, and th«ir dependants, may talk another 
 language. But the voice of nature is againll them; 
 and it will be heard. The people of England will not, 
 they cannot take it kindly, that reprefentatives fliould 
 refufe to their conftituents, what an abfolute fovereign 
 voluntarily offers to his fubjeds. The expreffion of the 
 petitions is, that ** before any new burthens are laid upon 
 •* this count ry^ effeSlual meafures be taken by this houft^ 
 ** to enquire into^ and cerreilj the grofs abufes in the ex- 
 *' penditure of public money.** 
 
 This has been treated by the noble lord in the blue 
 ribbon, as a wild factious language. It happens, how- 
 ever, that the people in their addrefs to us, ufe almofl 
 word for word the fame terms as the king of France 
 ufes in addrefTrng himfelf to his people ; and it differs 
 only, as it falls fliort of the French king's idea of what 
 is due to his fubjedls. ** To convince," fays he, ** our 
 ** faithful fubieits of the defire we entertaih not to re-. 
 ** cur to new tmpofttionsy until we have firft exhaufted 
 *' all the refources which order and ceconomy can pof- 
 «* fibly fupply."— &c. &c. 
 
 Thefc defires of the people of England, which come 
 far fliort of the voluntary conceffions of the king of 
 France, are moderate indeed. They only contend that 
 we fliould interweave fome oeconomy with the tixes 
 with which we have chofen to begin the war. They 
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 . fiut if it were poifible, that the defires of our confti- 
 taents, defires which are at once fo natural, and fo very 
 much tempered and fubducd, fliould have no weight with 
 an houfe of commons, which has its eye elfewhere ; I 
 would turn my eyes to the very quarter to which theirs 
 are direfted. 1 would rcafon this matter with the houfe, 
 on the mere policy of the queftion ; and I would un- 
 dertake to prove, that an early dercliftion of abufe, is 
 the dire£l intereft of government ; of government taken 
 abftraftedly from its duties, and confidered merely as 
 a fyftem intending'its own confervation. 
 
 If there is any one eminent critcrion,.which, above all 
 the reft, diftinguifties a wife government from «n admi- 
 niftration weak and improvident, it is this ;— ** well to 
 ** know the beft time and manner of yielding, what it is 
 " impoffible to keep."— There have been, Sir, and there 
 are, many who chufe to chicane with their fituation, 
 rather than be inftrufted by it. Thofe gentlemen ar- 
 gue againft every Idefire of reformation, upon the prin- 
 ciples of a criminal profecution. It is enough for them 
 to juftify their adherence to a pernicious fyftem, that 
 it is not of their contrivance ; that it is an inheritance 
 of abfurdity, derived to them from their anccilors; 
 that they can make out a long and unbroken pedigree 
 of mifmanagers that have gone before them. They are 
 proud of the antiquity of their houfe ; and they defend 
 their errors, as if they were defending their inheritance : 
 afraid of derogating from their nobility j and carefully 
 avoiding a fort of blot in their fcutcheon, which they 
 think would degrade them for ever. 
 
 It was thus that the unfortunate Charles the Firft 
 <Jefendcd himfelf on the pradice of the Stuart who 
 went before him, and of all the Tudors i his partizans 
 might have gone to the Plantagenets.— Thev might have 
 found bad examples enough, both abroad and at home, 
 that could have fliewn an antient and illuftrious de- 
 fccnt. But there is a time, when men will not fuffer 
 bad things becaufe their anceftors have fufFered worfe. 
 There is a tim e, when the hoary head of inveterate 
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 to the charges brought againft the prefent fyftem'of 
 
 Sublic oeconomy, it is not poflible to give a fair ver- 
 lA by which he will not ftand acquitted. But plead- 
 ing is not our prefent bufincfs. His plea .or his tra- 
 verfe may be allowed as an anfwer to a charge, when a 
 charge is made. But if he puts himfelf in the way to 
 obftru£t reformation, then the faults of his office in- 
 llantly become his own. Inilead of a public officer in 
 an abufive department, whofe province is an obie£l to 
 be regulated, he becomes a criminal who is to be pu- 
 niihed> I do moft ferioufly put it to adminiftration, 
 to confider the wifdom of a timely reform. Early 
 reformations are amicable arrangements with a friend in 
 power ; late reformations are terms impofed upon a 
 conquered enemy : early reformations are made in cool 
 blood ; late reformations are made under a ftate of in- 
 flammation. In that ftate of things the people behold 
 in government nothing that is relpedtable. They fee 
 the abufe, and they will fee nothing elfe — They fall into , 
 the temper of a furious populace provoked at the dif- 
 order of a houfe of ill famej they never attempt to 
 correal or regulate ; they go to work by the fhorteft 
 way— They abate the nufance, they pull down the 
 houfc. 
 
 This is my opinion with regard to the true Intercfl: 
 of government. But as it is the intereft of government 
 that reformation fliould be early, it is the intereft of 
 the people that it fhould be temperate. It is their in- 
 tereli, becaufe a temperate reform is permanent; and 
 bccaufe it has a principle of growth. Whenever we 
 improve, it is right to leave room for a further im- 
 provement. It is right to coiifider, to look about us, 
 to examine the effect of what we have done. — Then 
 we can proceed with confidence, becauffe we can proceed 
 with intelligence. — Whereas in hot reformations, in 
 what men, more zealous than conftderate, call making 
 clear work, the whole is generally fo crude, fo harfh, 
 fo indigeftcd ; mixed with fo much imprudence, and fo 
 much injuftice; fo contrary to the whole courfe of 
 htfman nature, and human inftitutions, that the very 
 people who are moft eaeer for it, are among the firll to 
 growdifgufted at what they have done. Then fome part of 
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 into difrepute, arid Is confidered as a vifion of hot and 
 inexperienced men j arid thus diforders become intu- 
 rable, not by the virulence of their own quality, but 
 by the unapt and violent nature of the remedies. A 
 great part therefore, of my idea of reform, is meant to 
 operate gradually ; fome benefits will come at a nearer, 
 fome at a more remote period. We muft no more 
 make hafte to be rich by parftmony, than by intemperate 
 dcquifition. 
 
 In my opinion, it is our duty when we have the 
 ^efires of the people before us, to purfue them, not in 
 ihe fpirit of literal obedience, which may militate witK 
 their very principle, much lefs to treat them with 9, 
 peevifh and contentious litigation, as if we were adverfe 
 parties in a fuit. It would, Sir, be riioft diJBionourable 
 for a faithful reprefentative of the commons, to take 
 advantage of any inartificial expreffion of the people's 
 wifties, in order to fruftrate their attainment of 
 what they have an undoubted right to expert. We 
 arjB under infinite obligations to our conftituents, 
 who have raifcd us to fo diftingui(bed a truft, and 
 have imparted fuch a degree of faniiity to common 
 charadlers. We ought to walk before them with pu- 
 rity, plainnefs, and integrity of heart ; with filial 
 love, and not with flavift fear, which is always a 
 low and tricking thins. For my own part, in what I 
 have meditated upon that fubjeft, I cannot indeed take 
 upon me to fay I have the honour to fellow the fenfe 
 of the people. The truth is, / met it en the w<if, 
 while I was purfuing their intereft according to my 
 own ideas. 1 am happy beyond expreffion, to fin<< 
 that mv intentions have fo far coincided with theirs, 
 that I have not had caufe to be in the leaft fcrupulou* 
 to fign their Petition, conceiving it to exprefs my 
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 at the firft.caufe of prodigality an4 corrupt in Huepce, 
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 It was to fulfil the firft of thefe obje(fts (the propofal 
 of fomething fubflantial) that I found myfelf obliged 
 at the out-(et, to reje£l a plan proppfed by an honour- 
 able and* attentive member of parliament, with very good 
 intentions on his part, about a year or two ago. Sir, the 
 plan I fpeak of, was the ta?'. of 25 per cent, moved upon 
 places and penflons during the continuance of the Ame- 
 rican war. — Nothing, Sir, could have met my ideas more 
 than fuch a tax, if it was confidered as a practical fatire 
 on that war, and as a penalty upon thofe who led us 
 into it ; but in any other view it appeared to me very 
 liable to objections. I confidered the fcheme as neither 
 fubftantial, nor permanent, nor fyftematical, nor likely 
 to be a corre(^ive oJF evil influence. I have always 
 thought employments a very proper fubjedl of regula- 
 tion, but a very ill-chofen fubjedl for a tax. An equal 
 tax upon property is reafonable ; becaufe the objeCl is of 
 the fame quality throughout. The fpecies is the fame, 
 it differs only in its quantity : but a tax upon falaries is 
 totally of a different nature ; there can be no equality, 
 and confequently no juffice, in taxing them by the hun- 
 dred, in the grofs. 
 
 We have. Sir, on our effablifliment, feveral offices 
 lyhich perform real fervice — We have alfo places that 
 provide large rewards for no fervice at all. We have 
 nations which are made for the public decorum ; made 
 for preferving the grace and majefty of a great peo- 
 ple. — We have lilcewifeexpenfive formal ities,which tend 
 rather to the difgrace than the ornament of the ftate and 
 the court. This, Sir, is the real condition of our 
 cftablifhments. To fall with the fame feverity on ob^ 
 je£ls fo perfe<5lly diffimilar, is the very reverfe of a re- 
 formation. I meap a reformation framed, as all fe- 
 rious things ought to be, in number, weight, and 
 meaAire. — Suppofe» for inftance, that two men receive 
 a falary of £»HQq a year each.— In the office of one, 
 there is nothing at all to be done ; in the other, the oct 
 cupier is oppreSed by its duties. — Strike off* twenty-fiva 
 per cent, from thefe two offices, you take from one 
 man /. 200, which in juffice he ought to have, and you 
 give in effect to the other £. 600, which he ought not 
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 But the balance in fettling the accoii- t of this ffou' 
 ble injuftice, is much againll the ftate. The refult is 
 ihort. You purchafe a faving of two hundred pounds, 
 by a profufion of fix. Befides, Sir, whilft you leave a 
 fupply of unfecured money behind, wholly at the dif- 
 cretion of miniflers, they make up the tax to fuch 
 places as they wiHi to favour, or in fuch new places as 
 they may choofe to create. Thus the civil lift becomes 
 oppreflfed with debt ; and the public is obliged to repays 
 and to repay with an heavy intereft, what it has taken 
 by an injudicious tax. Such has been the effe& of 
 the taxes hitherto laid on penfions and employments, 
 and it is no encouragement to recur again to the fame 
 expedient. 
 
 In efFe£l, fuch a fcheme is not calculated to produce, 
 but to prevent reformation. It holds out a (hadow ot 
 prefent gain to a greedy and neceffitous public, to di- 
 vert their attention from thofe abufes, which in reality- 
 are the great caufes of their wants. It is a compofition 
 to ftay enquiry ) it is a fine paid by mifmanagement, 
 for the renewal of its leafe. What is worfe, it is a fine 
 paid by induftry and merit, for an indemnity to the idle 
 and the worthlefs. But I fhall fay no more upon this 
 topic, becaufe (whatever may be given out to the con- 
 trary) I know that the iioble lord in the blue ribbon 
 perredly agrees with me in thefe fentiments. 
 
 After all that I have faid on this fubjedi, I am fo fen- 
 fible, that it is our duty to try every thing which may con- 
 tribute to the relief of the nation, that I do not attempt 
 wholly to reprobate the idea even of a tax. Whenever, 
 Sir, the incumbrance of ufclei's office (which lies no lefs 
 a dead weight upon the fervice of the ftate, than upon 
 its revenues) fliall be removed ; — when the remaining 
 offices fhall be clafTcd according to the juft proportion 
 of their rewards and fervices, to as to admit the appli- 
 cation of an equal rule to their taxation, when the 
 difcretionary power over the civil lift cafh fhall be fo 
 regulated, that a minifter fhall no longer have the means 
 of repaying with a private, what is taken by a public 
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 Having thus. Sir, not fo much abfolutely rejected, 
 as poftponed, the plan of a taxation of office, — my next 
 bufmcfs was to find fomething which might be reall]^ 
 fubftantial and efFe£lual. I am quite clear, that if we 
 do not go to the very origin and firfl ruling caufe of 
 grievances, we do nothing. What does it fignify to 
 turn abufes out of one door, if we are to let them in at 
 another ? What does it fignify to promote ceconomy 
 upon a mcafurc, and to fufter it to be fubverted in the 
 principle ? Our minifters are far from being wholly to 
 blame for the prefent ill order which prevails. Whilil; 
 inftitutions diredtly repugnant to good management, 
 are fufFered to remain, no efFedtual or lafting reform can 
 be introduced. 
 
 I therefore thought it neceflary, as foon as I conceived 
 thoughts of fubmitting to you fome plan of reform, to 
 take a comprehendve view of the (late of this country ; 
 to make a fort of furvey of its JurifdiAions, its Eftates, 
 and its Eftablifhments. Something, in every one of 
 them, feemed to me to (land in the way of all (Eco- 
 nomy in their adminiftration, and prevented every 
 pofTibility of methodizing the fyftem. But being, as £ 
 ought to be, doubtful of myfelf, I was refolved not 
 to proceed in an arbitrary manner, in any particular 
 which tended to change the fettled ftate of things, or 
 in any degree to affedt the fortune or fituation, the in- 
 tereft or the importance, of any individual. By an ar- 
 bitrary proceeding, I mean one condud^d by the pri- 
 vate opinions, talles, or feelings, of the man who at- 
 tempts to regulate. Thefe private meafures are not 
 flandards of the excheauer, nor balances of the fan6tu- 
 ary. General principles cannot be debauched or cor- 
 rupted by intereft or caprice ; and by thofe principles 
 I was refolved to work. 
 
 . Sir, before I proceed further, I will lay thefe prin- 
 ciples fairly before you, that afterwards you may be in 
 a condition to judge whether every obje«ft of regulation, 
 as I propofe it, comes fairly under its rule. This will 
 exceedingly {horten all difcufllon between us, if we are 
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 fundamental rules; they might indeed be reduced to 
 two or three fimple maxims, hut they would be too ge- 
 neral, and their application to the feveral heads of the 
 bufinefs, before us, would not be fo diftindl and viilble. 
 I conceive then, 
 
 Firfit That all jurifdidions which furnifh more 
 matter of expence, more temptation to op- 
 preffion,or more means and inftruments of cor- 
 rupt influence, than advantage to juftice or 
 political adminiftration, ought to be abo- 
 i lifl»ed. 
 Stcondfyy That all public efiates which are more 
 fubfervient to the purpofes of vexine, over- 
 awing, and influencing thofe who hold under 
 ., vti. them, and to the expence of perception and 
 management, than of benefit to the revenue, 
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 and of freedom, to be difpofed of. 
 Jltirdljy That all offices which bring more charge 
 than proportional advantage to the ftate } that 
 all offices which may be engrafted on others, 
 uniting and fimplifying their duties, ought, 
 in the flrfl: cafe, to be taken away j and in 
 the fecond, to be confolidated. 
 Faurthly, That all fuch offices ought to be abo- 
 lilhed, as obftrud: the profpe£t of the general 
 fuperintendant of finance ; which deftroy his 
 fuperintendancy, which difiible him from 
 fbrefeeing and providing for charges as they 
 may occur; from preventing expence in its 
 origin, checking it in its progrefs, or fecuring 
 its application to its proper purpofes. A mi- 
 nifter under whom expences can be made 
 without his knowledge, can never fay what 
 it is that he can fpend, or what it is that he 
 can fave. 
 "h • fifibfy. That it is proper to eftablifli an inva- 
 riable order in all payments ; which will pre- 
 vent partiality ; which will give preference to 
 fervices, not according to the importunity of 
 the demandant, but the rank and order of 
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 (as nearly as poffible) to certainty, the life of 
 . all order aiid good mnnanremcnt. 
 Seventhly, That all fiibordiiiate ti-eafuries, as 
 the niirferies of mifmanagetheht, and as na- 
 turally drawing to themrelves as much money 
 as they can, keeping it as long as they can, 
 and accounting for it as late as they can; ought 
 to be diffolvedl 't'hey Have a teridency to 
 perplex and diftrafl the public accounts, and 
 to excite a fiifpicion of gdvci*nmcnt, even be- 
 yond the extent of iheir abufe. 
 Under the authority ahd with the guidance of thofc 
 principles, I proceed } wishing that nothihg in any 
 ^ftablifiimeht may be chanced; where I am not able ta 
 make a ftrong; diire£l, arid folid application of thofe 
 |)rinciples, or of fome diie of them; All cecohomical 
 conftitutiori is a neceflary baiis for ah ceconomibal ad- 
 miniftratioh. 
 
 Firft, with regard tb the fovereigh jiirifdit^lions, I muft 
 obferve. Sir, that whoevcir takes a view of this king- 
 dom in a curfory manner, will imagine, that he be- 
 holds i folid, compared, uniform fyftem of monarchy ; 
 in which all inferior jUrifditStiohs are but as rays 
 diverging from ohe cehter. But on examining it more 
 nearly, yoii find miich excentricity and cbhfuiibh. It 
 is hot a Monarchy in flridthefs. Biit, as in the Saxon 
 times this country was ah heptarchy, it is how a ftrange 
 fort of Pe'ntarchy. It is divided ihto five.feveiral diff 
 tin£) principalities, bcfides the fupreme. There is in- 
 deed this difference from the Saxon times, that as in the 
 itinerant exhibitions of the flage, for want of a com- 
 plete company, they Arc obliged to throw a variety of 
 parts oh their chief performer ; {o our fovereign cori- 
 defcends himfelf to ai^^, not only the principaibut all 
 the fubordinatc parts in the play. He condefcends to 
 difHpate the royal character, and to trifle with thoiJB 
 light fubordinatc lacquered fceptres in thofe hands that 
 fuftain the ball, reprelcnting the world, or Which Wield 
 the trident that commands the ocean. Crofs a brookt 
 ^nd you lofe the king of England ; but you have fome 
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 to a Duke of Lancafter ; turn to the weft of that 
 north, and he pops upon you in the humble charadcr 
 of Earl of Che(ter. Travel a few miles on, the Karl ot 
 Cheftcr difappcars ; and the king furprifcs you again 
 as Count Palatine of Lancafter. If you travel be- 
 yond Mount Kdgccombe, you find him once more in 
 his incognito, and He is Duke of Cornwall. So that, 
 quite fatigued and fatiatcd with this dull variety, you 
 are infinitely rcfreftied when you return to the fpherc 
 of his proper fplendor, and behold your amiable fovc- 
 reign in his true, fimple, undifguifcd, native character 
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 In every one of thefc five Principalities, Duchies, 
 Palatinates, there is a regular cftabliftiment of con- 
 fiderablc expcnce, and mofl domineerino; influence. As 
 his majefty fubmits to appear in this ftatc of fubordi- 
 nation to himfelf, his loyal peers and faithful com- 
 mons attend his royal transformations ; and arc not fo 
 nice as to refufe to nibble at thofe crumbs of emolu- 
 ments, which confole their petty metamorphofes. Thus 
 every one of thofe principalities has the apparatus of a 
 kingdom, for the jurifdiition over a few private eftates ; 
 and the formality and charge of the exchequer of Great 
 Britain, for colledting the rents of a country 'fquirc. 
 Cornwall is the beft of them ; but when you compare 
 the charge with the receipt, you will find that it fur- 
 nifhes no exception to the general rule. The duchy 
 and county palatine of Lancafter do not yield, as I have 
 reafon to believe, on an average of twenty years, four 
 thoufand pounds a year, clear to the crown. As to 
 Wales, and the county palatine of Chefler, I have my 
 doubts, whether their produftive exchequer yields any 
 returns at all. Yet one may fay, that this revenue is 
 more faithfully applied to its purpofes than any of the 
 reft ; as it exifls for the fole purpofc of multiplying 
 offices, and extending influence. 
 
 An attempt was lately made to improve this branch 
 of local influence, and to transfer it to the fund of ge- 
 neral corruption. I have on the feat behind me, the 
 conftitution of Mr. John Probert j a knight-errant, 
 liubbed.by the noble lord in the blue ribbon, and 
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 mountains of Wales. The commifliotj is remarlcable ; 
 and the event not lefs fo. I'he commiffion fets forth, 
 that ** Upon a report of the depui : auditor (tor there is 
 ** a deputy auditor) of the principality of Wales, it 
 *■*■ appeared, that his majei^y's lanu-revenues in the faid 
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 *' mines and fore«s have produced very little profit 
 ** either to the public revenue or to individuals •,"— and 
 therefore they appoint Mr. Probert, with a pcnfion of 
 three hundred pounds a year from the faid principality, 
 to try whether he can make any thing more of that 
 very little which is Hated to be fo greatly diminilhcd, 
 ** A beggarly account of empty boxes." And yet, Sir, 
 you will. remark. — that this diminution from littlenefs 
 (which ferves only to prove the infinite divifihility of 
 matter) was not for want of the tender and officious 
 care (as we fee) of furveyors general, and furveyors 
 particular ; of auditors and deputy-auditors ; not fur 
 want of memorials, and remonftranccs, and reports, 
 nnd commifTions, and conftitutions, and inquifitions, 
 and penfions. 
 
 Probert, thus armed, and accoutred, — and paid, pro- 
 ceeded on his adventure j — but he was no fooncr arrived 
 on the confines of Wales, than all Wales was in arms 
 to n.eet him. That nation is brave, and full of fpirit. 
 Since the invafton of king f'dvvard, and the maflacre of 
 the bards, there never was fuch a tumult, and alarm, 
 and uproar, through the region of Prejiatyn. Snoiv^ 
 den (hook to its bafe ; Cader Edris was loofened from its 
 foundations. The fury of litigious war blew her born 
 on tlic mountains. The rocks poured down their goat- 
 herds, and the deep caverns vomited out their miners. 
 Every thing above ground, and every thing under 
 ground, was in arms. 
 
 In (hort. Sir, to alight from my Welfli Pegafus, and 
 to come to level ground ; tlie Preux Chevalier Probert- 
 wcnt to look for revenue, like his maflers upon other oc- 
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 ftrance met remonftrance, and memorial was oppofcd to 
 memorial. The wife Britons thought it more rcafon^ 
 able that the poor wafted decrepit revenue of the prin- 
 cipality, (hould die a natural than a violent death. 
 In truth. Sir, the attempt was no lefs an affront upon 
 the undcrftanding of that rcfpeftable people, than it 
 was an attack on their property. They chofe that 
 their ancient mofs-grown caftles, fhould moulder into 
 decay, under the filent touches of time, and the flow 
 formality of an oblivious and drowfy exchequer, than 
 that they (hould be battered down all at once, by 
 the lively efforts of a penfioned engineer. As it is the 
 fortune of the noble lord to whom the aufpices of 
 this campaign belonged, frequently to provoke refift- 
 ance, fo it is his rule and nature to yield to that re- 
 fiftance in all cafes whatfoever. He was true to himfelf 
 on this occafion. He fubmitted with fpirit to the fpi" 
 rited remonftrances of the Welch. Mr. Probert gave 
 up his adventure, and keeps his penfion — and fo ends 
 ** the famous hiftory of the revenue adventures of the 
 ** bold Baron North, and the good Knight Probert, 
 ** upon the mountains of Venodotia." 
 
 In fuch a ftate is the exchequer of Wales at prcfent, 
 that, upon the report of the treafury itfelf, its little re- 
 venue is greatly diminiftied ; and we fee by the whole of 
 this ftrange tranfaflion, that an attempt to improve it 
 produces refiftance ; the refiftance produces fubmifTton ; 
 and the whole ends in penfion *. 
 
 It is nearly the fame with the revenues of the duchy 
 of Lancafter. To do nothing with them is extindtion ; 
 to improve them is opprellion. Indeed, the whole of 
 the eftatcs which fupport thefe minor principalities, 
 is made up, not of revenues, and rents, and profitable 
 fines, but of claims, of prctenfions, of vexations, of 
 litigations. They are exchequers of unfrcqucnt re- 
 ceipt, and conltant charge ; a fyitem of finances not 
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 bert't penfion was, however, no efTential part of the qiieftion 5 nor did Mr. 
 B. care whether he ftill poflcfltd it or not. His point was, to ftiew ths 
 ridicule of aUcmpiing an improvement of the Wt-lfli revenue under its pre- 
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 prince who would govern his fubjeds with equity and 
 juftice. 
 
 It is not only between prince and fubjeiSt, that thefc 
 mock jurifdiftions, and mimic revenues, produce great 
 mifchief. They excite among the people a fpirit of 
 informing, and delating ; a fpirit of fupplanting and 
 undermining one another. So that many in fuch cir- 
 cumftances, conceive it advantageous to them, rather 
 to continue fubje£l to vexation themfelves, than to give 
 up the means and chance of vexing others. It is ex- 
 ceedingly common for men to contrail thbir love to 
 their country, into an attachment to its petty fubdivi- 
 iions } and they fometimes even cling to their provincial 
 abufes, as if they were franchifes, and local privi- 
 leges. Accordingly, in places where there is much of 
 this kind of eftate, perfons will be always found, who 
 would rather truil to their talents in recommending 
 themfelves to power for the renewal of their interefts, 
 than to incumber their purfcs, though never fo lightly, 
 in order to tranfmit independence to their pofterity. It 
 is a great miftakc, that the defire of fecuring property 
 is uhivcrfal among mankind. Gaming is a principle 
 inherent in human nature. It belongs to us all. I 
 would therefore break thofe tables ; I would furnifh no 
 evil occupation for that fpirit. I would make every 
 man look every where, except to the intrigue of a court, 
 for the improvement of his circumftanccs, or the fecu- 
 rity of his fortune. I have in my eye a very ftrong 
 cafe in the duchy of Lancaftcr (which lately occupied 
 Weftminfter-hall, and the houfe of lords) as my voucher 
 for many of thefe refleiftions *. 
 
 For what plaufible rcafon are thefe principalities fuf- 
 fered to exilt ? When a government is rendered com- 
 plex (which in itfelf is no defirable thing) it ought 
 to be for fome political end, which cannot be anfwered 
 othcrwife. Subdivifions in government, are only ad- 
 miflible in favour of the dignity of ii)ferior princes, 
 and high nobility ; or for the fupport of an ariftocratic 
 confederacy under fome head ; or for the confervation of 
 the franchifes of the people in fome privileged province. 
 For the two former of thefe ends, fuch are the fubdi- 
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 jurifdi(^ions of the irtiperial cities, and the Hnnfe towns 
 For the latter of thefe ends are alio the countries of the 
 States [Pais d'Etats] and certain cities, and orders in 
 France. Thefe are all regulations with an ohjetSV, and 
 fome of them with a very good object. But how are 
 the principles of any of thefe fubdivifions applicable iii 
 the cafe before us ? 
 
 Do they anfwer any purpofe to the king ? The 
 principality of Wales was given by patent to Edward 
 the Black Prince, on the ground on which it has fincc 
 Hood. — 'Lord Coke fagacioufly obftrves upon it, " That 
 ** in the charter of creating the Black Prince Edward 
 ** prince of Wales, there is a great tnyjiery— for lefs 
 ** than an eftate of inheritance, fo great a prince could 
 ** not have, and an ahfolute ejlate of inheritance in fa 
 ** great a principality as Wales (this principality being 
 ** Jo dear to him) ]\q jhould not have j and therefore it 
 ** was made, fihi ct heredibm fuii regibus AngUa, that 
 ** by his deceafe, or attaining to the crown, it might 
 •* be extinguilhed in the crown." 
 
 For the fake of this foolifli myjhry^ of what a great 
 prince could not have lefi^ ^w^ jhould not have fo much, 
 cf a principality which was too dear to be given, and 
 too great to be kept — and for no other caufe that ever 
 1 could iind — this form and fhadow of a principality, 
 without any fubftance, has been maintained. That yon 
 may judge in this inftance (and it ferves for the reft) 
 ti tho difference between a great and a little ceconomy, 
 you will plcafe to recollect. Sir, that Wales may be 
 j^>:iUt t\v^ teiith part of tlngland in fize and population \ 
 :x\\i certainly not a hundredth part in opulence. Twelve 
 judges p;;rform the whole of the bufuiefs, both of the 
 ll.uionaiy and the itinerant juftice of this kini^dom ; but 
 for Wales, there are eight judges. There is in Wales. 
 All exchequer, .is well as in all the duchies, according 
 to the very btft .and molt authentic abt'urdity of form. 
 There arc in all of them, a hundred more difficult trifles 
 and laborious fooleiie^., which fervc no other purpole 
 than to keep alive coirupt hope and fcrvile depen- 
 dence. 
 
 Thefe principalities are fo far from contributing to the 
 eaf.' of the king, to his wealth, or his dignity, that they 
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 pcrfc«^Ijr ridiculous. It was but the other day, that 
 that pert, faftious fellow, the duke of Lancafter, 
 prefumed to fly in the face of his liege lord, our gra- 
 cious fovcrcign j and aJJociatiKg with a parcel of law- 
 yers as factious as himfelf, to the deftruftion oi all law 
 <iml order, and in committees leading directly to rehel- 
 iion — prefumed to go to law with the king. The ob- 
 ject is neither your bufinefs, nor mine. Which of 
 the parties got the better, I really forget. I think it 
 was (as it ought to be) the king. The material point 
 is, that the fuit coft about fifteen thoufand pounds. 
 JJut as the duke of Lancafter is but a fort of duke 
 Humphrey, and not worth a groat, our fovereign was 
 obliged to pay the cofts of both. Indeed this art of 
 converting a great monarch into a little prince, this 
 royal mafqucrading, is a very dangerous and expenfjve 
 amufement ; and one of the king's menus plaifirs, which 
 ought to be reformed. This duchy, which is not worth 
 four thoufand pounds a year at beft, to revenue, is worth 
 forty or fifty thoufand to influence. 
 
 The duchy of Lancafter, and the county palatine of 
 LancaJ}cr, anfwered, 1 admit, foine purpofc in thcit 
 original creation. They tended to make a fubjetSt imi- 
 tate a prince. When Henry the fourth from that ftair 
 nfcended the throne, high-minded as he w.ts, he v/as 
 not willing to kick away the ladder. To prevent that 
 principality from being extinguifhed in the crown, he 
 fevered it by a>5t of parliament. He had a motive, fuch 
 as it vias; he thought his title to the crown unfound, and 
 his poiVeflion infecure. He therefore managed a retreat in 
 his duchy ; which lord Coke calls (I do not know why) 
 juiv iiuihis rcgnh. He fliittcrcd himfcIf that it was prac- 
 ticable to make a projc6ting point half way down, to 
 liic-rik his fall from the precipice of royalty ; as if it were 
 poliible ffir one who had lof'c a kingdom to keep any 
 thiiio clfc. However, it is evident that he thought fo. 
 ^Vhen Henry the fifth united, by adt of parliament, the 
 tliates of his mother to the duchy, he had the fame 
 jiiedilcction with his father, to the root of his Aimily 
 iuiiioius, and the fame policy in enlarging the fphere of 
 .1 pollible retreat from the ilippery royalty of the two 
 jj icat crowns he held. All this was changed by Edward 
 the fourth. He had no fuch family partialities, and his 
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 and Henry the fifth. He accordingly again wnitc4 
 the duchy of Lancafter to the crown, fiut when 
 Henry the feventh, who chofe to confider himfelf 
 as of the houfe of Lancafter, came to the throne, he 
 brought with him the old prctenfions, and the old 
 politics of that houfe. A new z& of parliament, a 
 fecond time, diflevered the duchy of Lancafter from 
 the crown ; and in that line things continued until 
 the fubverlion of the monarchy, when principalities 
 and powers fell along with the throne. The dUchy of 
 Lancafter inuft have been extinguiftied. if Cromwell^ 
 who began to form ideas of aggrandizing his houfe, and 
 raifing the fevcral branches of it, had not caufed the 
 duchy to be again feparated front the commonwealth, 
 by an a6l of the parliament of thofe times. 
 
 What partiality, what objects of the politics of the 
 houfe of Lancafter, or of Cromwell, has his prefcnt ma- 
 jefty, or his rnajefty's family ? Whiat power have they 
 within any of thefe principalities, which they have ncrt 
 within their kingdom ? In what manner is the dignity 
 of the nobility concerned in thefe principalities ? What 
 rights have the fubje£t thiere, which they have not at 
 leaft equally in every other part of the nation. Thefe 
 diftindlions exift for no good end to the king, to the 
 nobility, or to the people. They ought not to cxift at 
 all. If the crown (contrary to its nature, but moft 
 conformably to the whole tenor of the advice that has 
 b:en lately given) fliould fo far forget its dignity, as to 
 contend, that thefe jurifdidlions and revenues are eftates 
 of private property, I am rather for acting as if that 
 groundlcfs claim were of fome weight, than for giving 
 vp that eflential part of the reform. I would value the 
 clear income, and give a clear annuity to the crown^ 
 taken on the medium produce for twenty years. 
 
 If the crown hasany favourite name or title, if the fub- 
 j('£t has any matter of local accommodation within any 
 of thefe jurifdi6Vions, it is meant to preferve them ; and to 
 improve them, if any improvement can be fuggefted. As 
 to the crown reverfions or titles upon the property of the 
 people there, it is propofcd to convert them from a fnare 
 to their independance, into a relief from their burthens. 
 I propofe, therefore, to unite all the five principalities to 
 the crown, and to its ordinary jurifdidtion, to abolifh 
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 feparation from the body of the people,— >to compenfhte 
 thofe who do not hold their oflices (if any fuch there 
 are) at the pleafure of the crown« — to extinguifh vex- 
 atious titles by an a£l of (hort limitation» — to fell thofc 
 unprofitable eflates which fupport ufeleis jurifdi6tions, 
 and to turn the tenant-right into a fee, on fuch modcr 
 rate terms as will be better for the ftate than its prc- 
 fent right, and which it is impoHible (or any rational 
 tenant to refufe. 
 
 As to the Duchies, their judicial csconomy may be 
 provided for without charge. They have only to fall 
 of courfe into the common county adminiftration. A 
 commifTion more or lefs made or omitted, fettles the 
 matter fully. As to Wales, it has been propofed to add 
 a judge to the feveral courts of Weftminfter-hall } and 
 it has been confidered as an improvement in itfelf. For 
 my part, I cannot pretend to fpeak upon it with clearnefs 
 or with decifion ; but certainly this arrangement would 
 be more than fufHcient for Wales. My original thought 
 was to fupprefs five of the eight judges ; and to leave 
 the chief jullice of Chefter, with the two fenior judges; 
 and, to facilitate the bufmefs, to throw the twelve counr 
 ties into fix diflridts, holding the feffions alternately in 
 the counties of which each diflri£t (hall be compofed. 
 But on this I fhall be more clear, when I come to the 
 particular bill. 
 
 Sir, the houfe will now fee whether. In praying for 
 judgment againft the minor principalities, I do not att 
 in conformity to the laws that I had laid to myfclf, of 
 getting rid of every jurifdidtion more fubfervient toop- 
 preflion and expence, than to any eqd of juftice or ho- 
 nefl policy ; oi abolifhing offices more expenfive than ufe- 
 ful ; of combining duties improperly fcparated^ of chang- 
 ing revenues more vexatious than productive, into ready 
 money} of fuppreffing offices which ftand in the way 
 of ueconomy ; and of cutting ofi^* lurking fubordinatc 
 trcafurics. Difputc the rules ; controvert the applica- 
 tion ; or give your hands to this fulutarymeafure. 
 
 Mofi of the fame rules will be found applicable to 
 my fecond object — the landed e/late of the crown. A 
 landed cflatc is certainly the very worft which the crowi> 
 can poflefs. All minute and difperfed polfeflions, pof- 
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 a nature more proper for private managen^ent than public 
 adminiftration.— They are fitter for "the care of a frugal 
 land fteward, than of an office in the ftate. Whatever 
 they may poffibly have been in other times, or in other 
 countries, they are not of magnitude enouj^h with us, 
 to occupy a public departmenr, nor to provide for a 
 public objciSt. They are already given up to parlia- 
 ment, and the gift is not of great value. Common 
 prudence didtates, even in the management of private 
 affairs, that all difperfed and chargeable ef^ates, fhould 
 be facrificed to the relief of eflates more compat^ and 
 better circumftanced. 
 
 If it be objected, that thefe lands at prcfent vrould 
 fell at a low market ; this is anfwered, by (hewing that 
 mont'y is at high price. The one balances the other. 
 Lands fell at the current rate, and nothing can fell for 
 more. But be the price what it may, a great objedt is 
 always anfwered, whenever any property is transfer'd 
 from hands that are not fit for that property, to thofe 
 that are. The buyer and feller muft mutually profit by 
 fuch a bargain ; and, what rarely happens in niiitters of 
 revenue, the relief of the fubjedl will go hand in hand 
 with the profit of the exchequer. 
 
 As to t\\efore/f lands,, in which the Crown has (where 
 they are not granted or prefcriptively held) the domi- 
 nian of the folly and the vert and venijon ; that is to fay, 
 the timber and the game, and in which the people have 
 a variety of rights, in common of herbage, and other 
 commons, according to the ufage of the fcveral forelts; 
 • — I propofe to have thofe rights of the crown va- 
 lued as manerial rights are valued on an inclofure ; and 
 a defined portion of land to be given for them ; which 
 Jand is to be fold for the public benefit. 
 
 Ai to the timber, I propofe a furvey of the whole. 
 What is ui'clefs for the naval purpofcs of the kingdom, 
 I would condemn, and difpofe of for the fecurity of 
 what may be ufeful ; and to inclofe fuch other parts 
 as may be moft fit to fiirnifli a perpetual fiipply; wholh' 
 extinguifhing, for a very obvious reafon, all right of 
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 I propofe to cxtinguifli without charge to the proprie- 
 tors. The feveral commons are to be allotted and com- 
 pt-nfated for, upon ideas which I (hall hereafter explain. 
 They are nearly the fame with the principles upon 
 which you have aifted in private inclofures. I (hall 
 never quit precedents where I find them applicable. 
 For thofe regulations and compenfations, and for cverjr 
 other part of the detail, you will be fo indulgent as to 
 give mc credit for the prcfcnt. 
 
 The revenue to be obtained from the fale of the 
 fored lands and rights, will not be fo confiderable, I be- 
 lieve, as many people have imagined ; and I conceive it 
 would be unwifc to fcrew it up to the utmo(l, or even to 
 fufi^er bidders to inhance, according to their eagerncfs, 
 the purchafe of objects, wherein the expence of that 
 purchafe may weaken the capital to be employed iu 
 their cultivation. This, I am well aware, might give 
 room for partiality in the difpofal. In nvv opinion it 
 would be the leder evil of the two. But I really 
 conceive, that a rule of fair preference might be efta- 
 bli(hed, which would take away all fort of unjuft and 
 corrupt partiality. The principal revenue which I 
 propofe to draw from thefe uncultivated waftcs, is to 
 fpring from the improvement and population of the 
 kingdom; which never can happen, without producing 
 ail improvement more advantageous to the revenues of 
 the crown, than the rents of the beil landed cilatc which 
 it can hold. I believe. Sir, it will hardly be neccfiiiry 
 for me Co add, that in this fale I naturally except all 
 the houfes, gardens, and parks belonging to the crown, 
 and fuch one fbreft as (hall be chofen by his majcrty, as 
 belt accommodated to his pleafiires. 
 
 By means ofthis part ofthe reform, will fall the -^xpen- 
 Cwe ofli{:c o{ furvcyor gcmral, with all the influence that 
 attends it. By this will fall two chief ju/iicis in llyrc^ 
 with all their train of dependents. lou need be under 
 no apprehenfion. Sir, that your office is to be touched 
 in its emoluments ; they are yours by law ; and they 
 arc but a moderate part of the compcnfation which is 
 given to you for the ability with which you execute au 
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 jufticefliip, they are very different from thofe for which 
 you have received the office. Your dignity is too high 
 for a jurifdi£lion over wild beafts ; and your learning 
 and talents too valuable to be wafted as chief iuflice of 
 a defert. I cannot reconcile it to myfelf* that you. 
 Sir, (hould be ftuck up as a ufelefs piece of antiquity. 
 
 I have now difpofcd of the unprofitable landed eftates 
 of the crown, and thrown them into the mafs of private 
 property ; by which they will come, through the courfe 
 of circulation, and through the political fecretions of 
 the ftate, into our better underftood and better ordered 
 revenues. 
 
 I come next to the great fuprcme body of the civil 
 government itfelf. I approach it with that awe and re- 
 verence with which a young phyfician approaches to the 
 cure of the diforders of his parent. Diforders, Sir, and 
 infirmities, there are — fuch diforders, that all attempts 
 towards method, prudence, and frugality, will be per- 
 fectly vain, whilil a fyftem of confunon remains, which 
 is not only alien but adverfe to all oeconomy ; a fyftem, 
 which is not only prodigal in its very efTence, butcaufes 
 every thing elfe which belongs to it, to be prodigally 
 conduCled. 
 
 It is impoflible. Sir, for any perfon to be an oecono- 
 mift where no order in payments iseftabliflied ; it is im- 
 poflible for a man to be an cecotiomiftt who is not able 
 to take a comparative view of his means, and of his 
 expenpes, for the year which lies before him j it is im- 
 poflible for a man to be an oeconomift, under whom va- 
 rious officers in their feveral departments may fpend, — 
 even juft what they pleafe, — and often with an emula- 
 tion of expence, as contributing to the importance, if 
 not profit, of their feveral departments.— —Thus much 
 is certain ; that neither the prefent, nor any other firlt 
 lord of the treafury, has been ever able to take a 
 furvey, or to make even a tolerable guefs, of the ex- 
 pences of government for any one year ; fo as to 
 enable him with the leaft degree of certainty, or even 
 probability, to bring his affairs within compafs. What- 
 ever fchcnie may be formed upon them, muft be made 
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 {lanced, the firft lord of the treafury cannot makd 
 an eftimate. I am fure, I ferve the king, and I am 
 (tire I affift adminiftration, by putting ceconomy at leaft 
 in their power. We muft clafsfervices ; we muft (as far 
 as their nature admits) appropriate funds ; or every 
 thing however reformed, will fall again into the old 
 confufion. 
 
 Coming upon this ground of the civil lift, the firfl 
 thing in dignity and charge that attracts our notice, is 
 the royal houjehold. This eftablifliment, in my opinion, 
 is exceedingly abuftve in its cpnftitution. It is formed 
 upon manners and cuftoms, that have long fince expired. 
 In the firft place, it is formed, in many refpe£ls, upon 
 feudal principles. In the feudal times, it was not un- 
 common, even among fubjet^s, for the lowed offices to 
 be held by confiderable perfons ; perfons as unfit by 
 their incapacity, as improper from their rank, to oc- 
 cupy fuch employments. They were held by patent, 
 fometimes for lire, and fometimes by inheritance. If 
 my memory does not deceive me, a perl'on of no flight 
 con fide ration, held the office of patent hereditary cook 
 to an earl of Warwick^ — The earl of Warwick's foups, 
 I fear, were not the better for the dignity of his 
 kitchen. I think it was an earl of Gloucefler, who 
 officiated as flcward of the houfehold to the archbifhops 
 of Canterbury. Inftanccs of the fame kind may in 
 fome degree be found in the Northumberland houle- 
 book, and other family records. There was ibmt 
 reafon in antient neceffities, for thefe antient cufloms. 
 Proteftion was wanted ; and the domeftic tie, though 
 not the higheft, was the clofcft. 
 
 The king's houfehold has not only feveral ftrong 
 traces of this feudality^ but it is formed alfo upon the 
 principles of a Body-corporate ; it has its own magiftrate^, 
 courts, and by-laws. This might be neceffary in the 
 antient times, in order to have a government within 
 itfelf, capable of regulating the vau and often unruly 
 multitude which compofed and attended it. This was 
 the origin of the antient coik t called the Green Cloth — 
 compofed of the marlhal, treafurcr, and other great of- 
 ficers of the houfehold, with certain clerks. I'he rich 
 fubjedis of the kingdom, who had formerly the fame 
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 tcrcd their ueconomy ; and turned the courfe of their 
 cxpence from the maintenance of vaft citablifhmcnts 
 within their walls, to the employment of a great va- 
 riety of independent trades abroad. Their influence is 
 kilened ; but a mode of accommodation 9nd a ftyle of 
 fplendour, fuitedtothe manners of the times, has been 
 cncreafed. Royalty itfelf has infcnfibly followed ; and 
 the royal '.loufchold has been carried away by the rcfirtlcfs 
 tide of manners: but with this very material diftercncc. 
 Private men have got rid of thcellabliftiments along with 
 the reafons of them ; whereas the royal hou lehold has 
 loft all that was ftatelyand venerable in the antique 
 manners, without retrenching anything of the cumbrous 
 charge of a Gothic cftabliihmcnt. It is Ihrunk into 
 the poliOied littlenefh* of modern elegance and perfonal 
 accommodation ; it has evaporated froin the grofs con- 
 crete, into an eflcnce and rectified fpirit of expcncc, 
 where you have tuns of antient pomp in a vial 01. 
 modern luxury. 
 
 But when the reafon of old eftablifliments is rjonc, 
 it is abfurd to preferve nothing but the burthen of 
 them. This is fuperftitioufly to embalm a carcufs not 
 worth an ounce of the gums that are ufed to prcfcrvc 
 it. It is to burn precious oils in the toir.b ; it is to 
 offer meat and drink to the dead,— not f(> much ait 
 honour to the deccafed, as a difgrace to tl k furvivors. 
 Our palaces are vaft inhofpitable halls. Thtie tlie 
 bleak winds, there ** Boreas, and Eurus, atid Caurus, 
 and Argcftes loud," howling through the vacant lobbies, 
 and clattering the doors of defertcd guard-rooms, appal 
 the imagination, and conjure up the grim fpectres of 
 departed tyrants — the Saxon, the Norman, and the- 
 Dane ; the llern Edwards and fierce Henrys — wlio 
 iUlk from defolation to defolation, throut^h the dreary 
 vacuity, and melancholy fucceifion of chill and com- 
 fortlefs chambers. When this tumult fubfides, a dead, 
 aiid ftill more frightful Hlence would reign in thisdefert, 
 if every now and then the ticking of hammers did not 
 announce, that thofc conftant attendants upon all courts 
 ia all ages. Jobs, were ftill alive ; for whofe fake alone 
 it is, that any trace of antient grandeur is fuffcred to, 
 remain. Thcfe palac?s are a. true emblQm of fotnc. 
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 in mind of Old Sarum^ where the reprefentatives, more 
 in number than the conftituents, only ferve to inform 
 us, that this was once a place of trade, and founding 
 with *' the bufy hum of men," though now you can 
 only trace the ftreets by the colour of the corn i and 
 its fole manufatSlure is in members of parliament. 
 
 Thefe old cftablifliments were formed alfo on a third 
 principle, ftill more adverfc to the living oeconomy of 
 the age. They were formed. Sir, on the principle of 
 purveyance^ and receipt in kind. In former days, when 
 the houiehold was vaft, and the fupply fcanty and 
 precarious, the royal purveyors, fallying forth from 
 under the Gothic portcullis, to purchafe provifion 
 with power and prerogative, iiiftead of money, brought 
 home the plunder of an hundred markets, and all that 
 Could be fcized from a flying and hiding country, 
 and depofited their fpoil in an hundred caverns, 
 with each its keeper. There, every commodity, 
 received in its raweft condition, went through all 
 the procefs which fitted it for ufe. This incon- 
 venient receipt produced an ceconomy fuited only to 
 itfclf. It multiplied offices beyond all meafure j 
 buttery, pantry, and all that rabble of places, which, 
 though profitable to the holders and expenfive to 
 the ftate, are almoft too mean to mention. 
 
 All this might be, and I believe was neceflary at 
 firft ; for it is remarkable, that purveyance, after its 
 regulation had been the fubje<S): of a long line of 
 ftatutes (not fewer, I think, than twenty-fix) was 
 wholly taken away by the twelfth of Charles the fccond ; 
 yet in the next year of the fame reign, it was found 
 necelFary to revive it by a fpecial act of parliament, 
 for the fake of the king's journies. This, Sir, U 
 curious ; and what would hardly be expected in fo re- 
 duced a court as that of Charles the fecond, and in fo im- 
 proved a country as England might then be thought. 
 But fo it was. In our time, one well filled and well 
 covered ftage coach, requires more accommodation 
 than a royal progrefs ; and every diftri<5t at an hour's 
 warning, can fupply an army. 
 
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 At the beginning of his majefty»s rei^n, Lord Talbot 
 
 th?K ^°,;'^f/'*'!"r' "^'o» °f ^ great departmen in 
 the houfehold. I believe no man Iver entered into his 
 majcfty s fervice, or into the fcrvice of any prince 
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 with abilities for a ftill higher fervice. OEconomy was 
 w J ^""°""*^«d as a maxim of the reign. Thij ioble 
 lord, therefore, made feveral attempts towards a reform. 
 In the year 1777 when the king's civil lift debts came 
 lalt to be paid, he explained very fully the fuecefs of 
 his undertaking He told the'houfe^f lords, hat 
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 low him. He knew, that there is nothing intereftine 
 in the concerns of men, whom we love Ind honour 
 that is beneath our attention.-" Love," fays one of 
 our old poets, " efteems no oflice mean ;" ^and with 
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 told the other houfc) he reduced fevcral tables, and put 
 the perfons entitled to them upon board wages, much 
 to their own i'atisfad^ton. But unluckily fubfequenC 
 dutiss requiring conftunt attendance^ it was not pof- 
 fible to prevent their being fed where they were em- 
 {>loyed — and thus this hrft flcp towards oeconomy 
 doubled the cxpence. 
 
 There was another difafter far more doleful tharl 
 this. I fliall ftate it, as the caufe of that misfortune 
 lies at the bottom of alrhoft all our prodigality. Lord 
 Talbot attempted to teform the kitchen ; but fuch, as 
 he well obferved, is the confequcnce of having duty 
 done by one perfon^ whilft another enjoys the emolu- 
 ments, that he found himfelf fruihated in all his de- 
 ligns. On that rock his whole adventure fplit — His 
 whole fcheme of oeconomy was dafhed to pieces ; his 
 department became more cxpenfive than ever; — the 
 civil lift debt accumulated — Why ? It was truly from 
 a caufe, which, though perfectly adequate to the efte£t« 
 one would not have inftantly gueffed ; — It was bccaufe 
 the turnfpit in the k'lng'i kitchen was a member of par- 
 liament *. The king's doraeftic fervants were all un- 
 done ; his tradefmen remained unpaid, and became 
 bankrupt — becauft the turnfpit of the king's kitchen was a 
 member of parliament. His majefty's llumbers were in- 
 terrupted, his pillow was ftufted with thorns, and his 
 peace of mind entirely brokr-^ —hecaufe the king's turn-' 
 fpit was a member of parliimt :. The judges were un- 
 paid ; thejutticeof the kingdom bent and gave wayj 
 the foreign miniftcrs remained inadtive and unprovi- 
 ded ; the fyftem of Eu-opc was diffolved ; the chain 
 of our alliances was broken ; all the wheels of go- 
 vernment at home and abroad were ftopped ; — becauft 
 the king's turn/pit wrj a member cf parliament. 
 
 Such, Sir, was tic fituation of afFairi, and fuch the 
 caufe of that fuuation, when his majclly came a 
 fecond time to parliamcnr, to defire the payment 
 of thofe debts which the employment of its mem- 
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 attempt at ceconomy by detail, under limiKir cir- 
 cuinftances, and in every department. A comriex ope- 
 role office of account and controul, is, in itVelf, and 
 even if members of parliament had nothing to do with 
 It, the molt prodigal of all things. The moll audacious 
 robberies, or the molt fubtlc frauds, would never ven- 
 ture upon fuch a waftc, as an over careful, detailed 
 guard againft them will infallibly prodiKre. In our 
 eftabhfhments, we frequently fee an office of account,, 
 of an hundred pounds a year expence, and another of- 
 fice of an equal expence, to controul that office, and 
 the whole upon a matter that is not worth twentv 
 Ihillings. 
 
 To avoid, therefore, this minute care which produces 
 the confequences of the moll extcnfive ncglcdt, and to. 
 oblige members of parliament to attend to public cares, 
 and not to the fcrvile offices of domeftic management, 
 I propofe. Sir, to cecormnixe by princtple^ that is, I 
 propofe, to put afFairs into that train which experience 
 points out as the moft cfFeduai, from the nature 
 of thmgs, and from the conltitution of the human mind. 
 In all dealings where it is poffible, the principles of 
 radical reconomy prefcribe three things ; firft, under- 
 ^^•^'"S ^y *^^ g'"'^''** i ^"^condly, engaging with perfonn 
 of (kill in the fubjed matter ; thirdty, engaging with 
 thofe who fliall have an immediate and diredilntereft ia 
 the proper execution of the bufinefs. 
 
 To avoid frittering and crumbling down the atten- 
 tion by a blind unfyftematic obfervance of every trifle, it " 
 has ever been found the beft way, to do all things, which 
 are great in the total amount, and minute in Hie com- 
 ponent parts, by a general contrast. The principles of 
 trade have fo pervaded every fpecies of dealing, from 
 thchigheftto the loweft objeds ; all tranfadtfons are 
 got fo much into fyftem ; that we may, at a moment's 
 warning, and to a farthing value, be informed at what 
 rate any fervice may be lupplied. No dealing is ex- 
 empt Irom the poffibility of fraud. «ut by a con- 
 trad on a matter certain, you have this advanta<re-- 
 you are fure to know the utmolt extent of the fraud 
 to which you are fubjecl. By a contradl with a pcr- 
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 making it the intereji of the contraftor to exert that fkill 
 for the fatisfadtion of his employers; ; " 
 
 I meart to derogate nothing frdm the diligence or in- 
 tegrity of the prefent, or of any former board of green- 
 cloth. But what flcill can members of parliament ob- 
 tain in that low kind of province ? What pleafure can 
 they have in the execution of that kind of duty ? And 
 if they fhould neglect it, how does it aftedt their intereft, 
 \Vhcn we know that it is their vote in parliament, and 
 not their diligence in cookery or catering, that recom- 
 mends them to their office, or keeps them in it ? 
 
 I therefore propofe, thit the king's tables (to what- 
 ever number of tables j or covers to each, he Ihall think 
 proper to command) ftiould be clafl'ed by the fteward 
 of the houfehold, and fhould be contracted for, accord- 
 ing to their rank, by the head or cover ; — that the ef- 
 timatc and circumftance of the contract fhould be car- 
 ried to the treafury to be approved \ and that its faith- 
 ful and fatisfaitory performance fhould be reported 
 there, previous to any payment ; that there, and there 
 only, fhould the payment be made. I propofe, that 
 men fliould be contracted with only in their proper 
 trade ; and that no member of parliament fhould be ca- 
 pable of fuch contract. By this plan, almoft all the in- 
 finite offices under the lord fteward may be fpared ; to 
 the extreme fimplification, and to the far better exe- 
 cution, of every one of his functions. The king of 
 Pruffia is fo ferved. He is a great and eminent (though 
 indeed a very rare) inftance of the poffibility of uniting 
 in a mind of vigour and compafs, an attention to mi- 
 nute objeCts, with the largefl views, and the moft com- 
 plicated plans. His tables are ferved bycontraCt, and by 
 the head. Let me fay, that no prince can be afhamed to 
 imitate the king of Pruffia ; and particularly to learn 
 in his fchool, when the problem is — " The heft man- 
 '* ner of reconciling the flate of a court with the fup- 
 " port of war ?" Other courts, I underftand, hav(i 
 followed him with efFeCt, and to their fatisfadtion. 
 
 The fame clue of principle leads us through the 
 labyrinth of the other departments. What, Sir, is there 
 in the office of thi gnat ivardrobe (which has the care of 
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 ment ; he has time fufficient to attend to the v-futy ; 
 and he has the vice chamberlain to aflift him. Why 
 fhould not he deal alfo by contra<a, for all things be- 
 longing to this office, and carry his eftimates firft^ and 
 his report of the execution in its proper time, for pay- 
 ment, direaiy to the board of treafury itfelf ? By a fim- 
 ple operation (containing in it a treble control) the 
 expences of a department, which for naked walls, or 
 walls hung with cobwebs, has in a few years coft the 
 crown >^. 150,000, may at length hope for regulation. 
 ^ut, bir, the office and its bufmefs are at variance. 
 As It Itanda, It ferves, not to furnifh the palace with 
 Its hangings, but the parliament with its dependent 
 members. 
 
 To what end, Sir, docs the office oi removing ward- 
 rj^be ferve at all ? Why fliould z jewel office exift for the 
 lole purpoJc of taxing the king's gifts of plate? Its 
 wi\ica falls naturally within the f/w//^.r/r//«'s province ; 
 4nd ought to be under his care and infpcaion, without 
 any Ice. Why fliould an ofilcc of the robes exift, when 
 *hat ot groom oftbt.Jhk is a finecurc, and that this is a 
 proper object of his department ? 
 
 All theie incumbrances, which are themfclves nu- 
 Ltnces, produce other incumbrances, and other nu- 
 lanccs. tor the payment of thefe ufelefs eftabliftments, 
 there are no lefs than three ufelefs treafurers ; two to 
 hold a purie, and one to play with a ftjck. The trea- 
 surer of the houfehold is a mere name. The cofferer 
 -ind the treafurcr of ibe chamber, receive and pay great 
 iums, which it is net at all necelTary they fhould ei- 
 ther receive or pay. AH the proper officers, fervants, 
 .ind tradefmen, may be enrolled in their fcveral depart- 
 ments, and paid in proper clafles and times with great 
 implicity and order, at the exchequer, and by diredion 
 irom tlie treafury. 
 
 Tht board of works, w\\\c\x in the fevcn years ore- 
 ceding 1777, has coft towards;^. 400,000 *: and Cif I 
 r=colea r ghtly) has not coft left in proportion fro.n 
 the beginning of the reign, is under th< v.rv fame d^" 
 
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 thevifiblefignsof all this expcnce.— For all thisexpehce, 
 we do not fee a building ot the fizc and importance of 
 a pigeon-houfe. Buckingham-houfe was reprifed by 
 a bargain with the public, for one hundred thoufand 
 pounds ; — and the fmall houfe at Windfor has been, 
 if I mittake not, undertaken fince that account was 
 brought before us. The good works of that boar^i 
 of works, are as carefully concealed as other good 
 works ought to be ; they are perfectly invifible. But 
 though it is the perfection of charity to be concealed, 
 it is, Sir, the property and glory of magnificence, to 
 appear, and (land forward to the eye. 
 
 That board, which ought to be a concern of builders, 
 and fuch like, and of none elfe, is turned into a junto of 
 members of parliament. That office too has a treafuryy 
 and a paymafter of its own ; and left the arduous affairs 
 of that important exchequer fnould be too fatiguing, 
 that paymafter has a deputy to partake his profits, and 
 relieve his cares. I do not believe, that either now or 
 in former times, the chief managers of that board have 
 made any' profit of its abuie. It is, however, no good 
 reafon that an abufive eftablifhment (hould fubfift, be- 
 caufc it is of as little private as of public advantage. 
 But this eftabliihment ha^ the iirand radical fault, the 
 original fin, that pervades and perverts all our eftablifli- 
 ments ; — The apparatus is not fitted to the objeft, nor 
 the workmen to the work. Kxpences are incurred on 
 the private opinion of an inferior eftnblifliment, without 
 consulting the principal ; who can alone determine the 
 proportion which it ought to bear to the other efta- 
 bli(hments of the ftate, in the order of their relative 
 importance. 
 
 I propofe, therefore, along with the reft, to pull down 
 this whole ill-contrived icalTblding, which obflrudts, 
 rather than forwards our public works j to take away 
 its treafury ; to put the whole into the haiiJs of a real 
 builder, who (hall not be a member of parliament ; and 
 to oblige him by a previous eftimate and final pay- 
 ment, to appear twice at the treafury, before the public 
 can be loaded. The king's gardens are to come under 
 afimilar regulation. 
 
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 It has its officers of parade and dignity. It has its 
 treal'ury too. It is a fort of corporate body ; and formerly 
 was a body of great importance; as much fo on the 
 then fcale of things, and the then order of bufinefs, as 
 the bank is at this day. It was the great center of money 
 tranfactions and remittances for our own, and for other 
 nations ; until king Charles the firlt, among othcv 
 arbitrary proje»Sls, didtated by defpotic neceffity, made 
 him withhold the money that lay there for remituncc. 
 That blow (and happily too) the mint never recovered. 
 Now it is no bank ; no remittancc-fhop. The mint. 
 Sir, is a manufa£lure^ and it is nothing elfe; and it 
 ought to be undertaken upon the principles of a 
 manufafture; that is, for the beft and cheapeft execution, 
 by a contract, upon proper fccurities, and under proper 
 regulations. 
 
 The artillery is a far greater objeil ; it is a military 
 concern ; but having an affinity and kindred in its 
 defers with the eftablifliments I am now fpeaking 
 of, I think it beft to fpeak of it along with them. 
 It is, I conceive, an ettablilhment not well fuited 
 to its martial, though exceedingly well calculated for 
 its parliamentary purpofcs. — Here there is a ireafuryy 
 as in all the other inferior departments of govern- 
 ment. Here the military is fubordinate to the civil, 
 and the naval confounded with the land fervice. The 
 cbjcv!:t indeed is much the fame in both. But when the 
 detail is examined, it will be found that they had bet- 
 ter be fcparatcd. For a reform of this office, I propofc 
 to rcftorc things, to what (all confiderations taken to- 
 gether) is their natural order ; to rellore them to their 
 jiifl: proportion, and to their jufl: diftribution. I pro- 
 pofe, in this military concern, to render the civil 
 fjbordinatc to the military; and this will annihilate 
 the greatcft part of the expence, and all the influence 
 belonging to the office. I propofe to fend the military 
 branch to the army, and the naval to the Admiralty: 
 and I intend to perfect and accomplifli the whole detail 
 ( where it becomes too minute and complicated for legi- 
 fluture, and requires exav.T^, official, military, and me- 
 chanical knowledge) by a commiffion of competent 
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 •<:ontra£l, what by contraiSt can be executed ; and to 
 •bring, as much as poffiblc, all cftimates to be previoufly 
 •approved, and finally to be paid by the treafury. 
 
 Thus, by following the courl'e of nature, and nqt 
 the purpofcs of politics, or the accumulated patchwork 
 of fccafional accommodation, this vaft expenfive de- 
 partment may be methodized; its ferv ice proportioned 
 to its iicceHltics, and its payments fubje»ilcd to the in- 
 fpcction of the fupcilor minifter of finance j who is to 
 judge of it on the refiilt of the total coUedlive exigencies 
 of tiie ftate. This lail: is a reigning principle through 
 •my whole plan; and it is a principle which I hope may 
 hereafter be applied to other plans. 
 
 By thefe regulations taken together — befidei 'he three 
 fubordinate trcafuries in the lefler principalities, five 
 other fubordinate treafuries are fupprefled. There is 
 taken away the whole ejiablijhment of detail in i\\a 
 houfehold ; the treufurer\ — the comptroller (for a co'mp- 
 •troller is hardly neccflary where there is no treafurcr) 
 the cofferer of the houfehold ; — the trcafurer of the cham<- 
 iw; — the mailer of the houfehold \ — the whole beard of 
 green cloth ; — and a vaft number of fubordinate offices 
 in the il ^)a<tmeiit of X.\\c Jteward cf the houfehold; — the 
 whcilc cllabliflmient of the great wardrobe ; — the removi- 
 iiig ivardrobe ; — the jewel offce ; — the robes ; — the board 
 'fifivorks; almoft the whole charge of the civil branch 
 vi the board of ordriancc are taken away. All thefe ar- 
 .rangements together will be found to relieve the na- 
 tion from a vait weight of influence, without diftrefl- 
 ing, but rather by forwarding every public fcrvice. 
 When i'oinethiug of this kind is done, then the public 
 •may begin to breathe. Under other governments, ^ 
 quellion of expence is only a queftion of CEConomy, 
 and it is nothing more ; with us in every queftion of 
 cxpcnce, there is always a mixture of conftitutional 
 confidL-rations. 
 
 It is. Sir, becaufc I wifh to keep thisbufincfs of fub- 
 ordinate trcafuiios as much as 1 can togclhi-r, that 1 
 il)iought the ordnance-office before you, though it is pro- 
 .pcrly a military department. For the fame rcafon I will 
 .iiow trouble you with my tlioughts and propontions 
 .upon two of the grcateft under trcafuries, I mean tin: 
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 0rmy ; and that of the ireafurtr of the navy. Thftibr, 
 mer of thefe has long been a great object of public fuf- 
 picion and uneafincfs. Envy too has had its fljare in 
 the obloquy which is caft upon this office. But I am 
 fure that it has no Ihare at all in the reflexions I fhaU 
 make upon it, or in the reformations that I (hall propofe. 
 I do not grudge to the honourable gcntleinan who at 
 prefent holds the office, any of the cffeas of his talents, 
 his merit, or his fortune. He is refpecftable in all thefc 
 particulars. I follow the conftitution of the office, 
 without perfecuting its holder. It is neceflary, in all 
 matters of public complaint, where men frequently 
 feel right and argue wrong, to fcparate prejudice from 
 reafon ; and to be very fure, in attempting the redrefs 
 of a grievance, that we hit upon its real feat, and its 
 true nature. Where there is an abufe in office, the 
 firfl: thing that occurs in heat is to cenfure the officer. 
 Our natural difpofition leads all our enquiries rather 
 to perfons than to things, But this prejudice is to be 
 . correded by maturer thinking. 
 
 Sir, the profits of the pay-office (as an office) are 
 not too great, in my opinion, for its duties, and for 
 the rank of the perfon who has generally held it. He 
 has been generally a perfon of the higheft rank ; that 
 is to fay, a perfon of eminence and confideration in 
 this houfe. The great and the invidious profits of 
 the pay-office, are from the Bank that is held in 
 It. According to the prefent courfe of the of- 
 fice, and according to the prefent mode of account- 
 ing there, this bank muft necefTarily exift fome, 
 where. Money is a produftive thing ; and when the 
 tifual time of its demand can be tolerably calculated, it 
 may, with prudence, be fafdy laid out to the profit of 
 the holder. It is on this calculation, that the bufinefs 
 of bankmg proceeds. But no profit can be derived 
 froni the ufe of money, which does not make it the in- 
 tereft of the holder to delay his account. The procefs 
 of the exchequer colludes with this intereft. Is this col- 
 Jufton from its want of rigour and ftridnefs, and great 
 regularity of form ? The reverfe is true. They have in 
 the exchequer brought rigour and formalifm to their ul- 
 timate perfcaion. The procefs againft accountants is 
 )o rigorous, and in a manner fo unjuft, that correaive* 
 
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 inuft« from time to time, be applied to it. rheic t;oi« 
 retftivcs being difcretionary, upon the paie, anJ generally 
 remitted by the barons to the lords of the treafury, as 
 the bed Judges of the rcafons for refpite, heatings are 
 had } delays are produced ; and thus the extreme of ri- 
 gour in oii^ce (as ufuai in all human afFairs) leads to 
 the extreme of laxity. What with the interefted de- 
 lay of the officer; the ill-conceived exactnefs of the 
 court; the applications for difpenfations from that ex- 
 adtnefs, tht revival of rigorous proccfs, after the expira- 
 tion of the time ; and the new rigours producing new 
 applications, and new enlargements of time, fuch de- 
 lays happen in the public accounts, that they can 
 fcarcely ever be clofed. 
 
 Bcfides, Sir, they have a rule in the exchequer, 
 which, I believe, they have founded upon a very an- 
 cient ftatute, tbat of the 51ft of Henry III. by which 
 it is provided, ** That when a Iheriff or bailiff hath 
 ** began his account, none other fhall be received 
 *' to account until he that was firil: appointed hath 
 ** clearly accounted, and that the fum has been re- 
 ** ceived *." Whether this claufe of that ftatute be 
 the ground of that abfurd pradlice, I am not quite 
 able to afcertain. But it has very generally prevailed, 
 though I am told that of late they have btgan to 
 relax from it. In confequence of forms adverfe to 
 fubftantial account, we have a long fucctffion of pay- 
 mafters and their reprefentatives, who have never been 
 admitted to account, although perfectly ready to do 
 {o. 
 
 As the extent of our wars has fcattered the ac- 
 countants under the paymafter into every part of the 
 ■globe, the grand and fure paymafter. Death, in all his 
 ihapes, calls thefc accountants to another reckoning. 
 Death, indeed, domineers over every thing, but the 
 forms of the exchequer. Over thcfe he has no powej. 
 They are impallive and immortal. The audit of the 
 exchequer, more fevere than the audit to which the 
 Accountants are gone, demands proofs which in the 
 
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 nature of thinj^s are difficult, fomctimes impoflibic to 
 be had. In this refpedl too, rigour, as ufual, dc- 
 Vf3t>^ itfclf. Then, the exchequer never gives a parti- 
 cuiir receipt, or clears a man of his account, as far as 
 i' goes. A final acquittance, (or a quictui^ as they term 
 it) is fcarccly ever to be obtained. Terrors and ghofts 
 of unlaid accountants, haunt the houfesof their children 
 from generation to generation. Families, in the courfe 
 of fuccefilon, fall into minorities ; the inheritance 
 comes into the hands of females ; and very perplexed 
 affairs are often delivered over into the hands of negli- 
 gent guardians and faithlefs ftewards. So that the de- 
 mand remains, when the advantage of the money is gone, 
 if ever any advantage at all has been made of it. This 
 is a caufe of infinite diftrefs to families; and becomes 
 a fource of influence to an extent, that can fcarccly be 
 imagined, but by thofe who have taken ibme pains to 
 trace it. The mildnefs of government in the employ- 
 ment of ufclefs and dangerous powers, furniihes norea- 
 fon for their continuance. 
 
 As things ftand, can you in juftice (except perhaps 
 in that over-perfeiSt kind of juftice which has ob- 
 tained, by its merits, the title of the oppofitc .vice *) 
 infift that any man Ihould, by the courfc of his office, 
 keep a batik from whence he is to derive no advantage ? 
 That a man ihould be fubjeft to demands below, and 
 be in a manner refufed an acquittance above ; that he 
 Ihould tranfmit an original fin, and inheritance of vex- 
 ation to his pofterity, without a power of cumpcnfat- 
 ing himfelf in feme way or other, for fo perilous a 
 Situation ? We know, that if the paynialicr fhould deny 
 himfelf the advantages of his bank, the public, as 
 things ftand, is not the richer for it by a fingle (hil- 
 ling. This I thought it ncceflary to fay, as to the 
 oft^'enfivc magnitude of the profits of this office ; that wc 
 may proceed in reformation, on the principles of rea- 
 fon, and not on the feelings of envy. 
 
 The trcafuier of the navy is, ttnitatis mutaiidis^ in 
 the fame circumftances. Indeed all accountants are- 
 Inftcad of the prefcnt mode, which is troublefonic to 
 the officer, and unprofitable to the public, 1 propofc 
 io fubrtirut'j fomctliinQ: more efl'cclual than ri'Mnir, 
 
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 which is the worfl exactor in the woriJ. t mean to 
 remove the very temptations :> delay ; to facilitate 
 the account ; and to transfer this bank, now of private 
 emolument, to the public. The crown will fuifer no 
 wrong at lead from the pay-ofHc'"' and its terrors will 
 longer nugn over the families of thofc who hold, or 
 have held them. I propofe, that thel'j offices Ihould be 
 no longer l)ani::< or tiwifurivs, but mere ofilces of admlni- 
 Jirat'ion. — I propofe, tirli, th:;t the prefeni paymafter and 
 the trcafurcr of the navy, ihould carry into the exche- 
 quer, the whole body of the vouchers for what they have 
 paid over to deputy payiiial^crs, to regimental agents, 
 .or to any of thofe to v.'hom they have and ought to 
 have paid money. 1 propofe that thofe vouchers fhall 
 be .admitted as adtual payments in their accounts ; and 
 that the perions to whom the money has been paid, (hall 
 then rtand charged in the exchequer in their place. 
 AJter this procels, they fhall be debited or charged for 
 nothing but the money-balance that remains in their 
 hands. 
 
 1 am cojifciou.s. Sir, that if this balance (which they 
 could not expect to be fo fuddenly demanded by any 
 ufuftl proeefh of the exchequer) fliould now be exacted 
 all at once, not only thejr ruin, but a ruin of others 
 to an extent which I do not like to think of, but which 
 I can well conceive, and which you may well con- 
 ceive, might be the confequence. I told you. Sir, 
 when I promifid before the holydays to bring in this 
 plan, that I never would iutVer any man or defcription 
 pf men, tp fuller from errors that naturally have growii 
 out of the abufiye conftitution of thofe offices which I 
 propole to regulate. If I cannot reform with equity, I 
 will not reform at all. 
 
 For the regulation of pad accounts, I ihall there- 
 fore propofe fuch a mode, as men, temperate and pru- 
 dent, make ufe of in the management of their private 
 aifain, when their accounts are various, p,-rplcxed, and 
 y^ of long I'landlii;.'. I would therefore, after their cxaiu- 
 d pic, divide the puhlic debts into thice forts ; good ^ 
 * bad ; and doubtful. In looking over the pulilic ac- 
 counts, I fhould never driam of the blind nioue of 
 the exchequer, which regards things in the abllracl, 
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 the circumftancM of its debtors. By this means, it 
 fatigues itfelf; it vexes others; it often crufhes the 
 poor j it lets cfcape the rich ; or in a fit of mercy or 
 careleflhefs, declines all means of recovering its juft de- 
 mands. Content with the eternity of its claims, it en- 
 joys its epicurean divinity with epicurean languor. But 
 it is proper that all forts of accounts fhould be clofcd 
 feme time or other — by payment ; by compofuion ; or 
 by oblivion. Expedit reipublica id fttjinii lititim. Con- 
 rtantly taking along with me, that an extreme rigour 
 is fure to arm every thing againll it, and at length 
 to relax into a fupine ntglett, I propofe. Sir, that 
 even the beft, foundeft, and the moft recent debts, 
 ihould be put into inftalments, for the mutual be- 
 nefit of the accountant and the public. 
 
 In proportion, however, as I am tender of the paft, 
 I would be provident of the future. All monc)' that 
 was formerly imprefted to the two great pay-offices, I 
 would have imprefted in future to the hank of England. 
 Thefe offices (hould, in future, receive no more than 
 cafti fuflicienl for fmall payments. Their other pay- 
 ments ought to be made by drafts on the Bank, expref- 
 fmg the fervice. A chccque account from both of- 
 fices, of drafts and receipts, (hould be annually made 
 up in the exchequer, charging the bank, in account, 
 with the cafli-balance, but not demanding the payment 
 until there is an order from the treafury, in confequencc 
 of a vote of parliament. 
 
 As I did not, Sir, deny to the paymafter the natural 
 profits of the bank that was in his hands, fo neither 
 would I to the bank of England. A fhare of that 
 profit might be derived to the public in various ways. 
 My favourite m.ode is this; that, incompenfation for the 
 ufe of this money, the bank may take upon themfelves, 
 firft, the charge of the mint ; to which they are already, 
 by their charter, obliged to bring in a great deal of 
 bullion annually to be coined. 
 
 In the next place, I mean that they fhould take 
 upon themfelves the charge of remittances to cur troops 
 flbroad. This is a fpecies of dealing from which, 
 by the fame charter, they are not debarred. One and 
 a quarter per cent, will be faved inftantly thereby to 
 the public, on very large fums of money. This will 
 
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 be at once a matter of ceconomy, and a confidcrable re- 
 dudioa of influence, by taking away a private con- 
 traft of an cxpenfive nature. If the bank, which is a 
 great corporation, and of courfe receives the leaft profit* 
 from the money in their cuftody, fhould of itfelf refufe, 
 or be perfuaded to refufe this offer upon thofe terms, I 
 can fpeak with fome confidence, that one at leaft, if 
 not both parts of the condition would be received, and 
 gratefully received, by feveral bankers of eminence. 
 There is no banker who will not be at leaft as good 
 fccurity as any paymafter of the forces, or any trea- 
 furcr of the navy, that have ever been bankers to th«. 
 
 ?ublic : as rich at leaft as my J.ord Chatham, or my 
 .ord Holland, or either of the honourable gentlemen 
 who now hold the offices, were at the time that they 
 entered into them ; or as ever the whole eftubliihment of 
 the mint has been at any period. 
 
 Thefc, Sir, are the outlines of the plan I mean to 
 follow, in fuppreffing thefe two large fubordiuate tiea- 
 furies. I now come to another fubordiuate treafury; I 
 mean, that of the paymafler of the pen/tons ; for w/hicb 
 purpofe I re-enter the limits of the civil cllablifhnicnt — 
 I departed from thofe limits in purfuit of a principle i 
 and following the fame game in its dojibles, I am 
 brought into thofe limits again. That treafury, and that, 
 office, I m;an to take away; and to transfer the pay- 
 ment of every name, mode, and denomination of pcn- 
 fions, to the exchequer. The prefent courfe of di- 
 verfifying the fame objeft, can anfwer no good purpofe; 
 whatever its ufe may be to purpofes of another kind. 
 There are alfo other lifts of penfions ; and I mean that 
 they fhould all be hereafter paid at one and tht: fame 
 place. The whole of that new confolidated lift, I mean 
 to reduce to ^. 60,000 a year, which fura I intend it 
 fhall never exceed. I think that fum will fully anfwer 
 as a reward to all real merit, and a provifion for 3II real 
 public charity that is ever like to be placed upon the 
 IHK If any merit of an extraordinary nature ftiould 
 emerge, before that reduction is completed, I have Ici'c 
 it open for an addrefs of either houfe of parliament to 
 provide for the cafe. To all other demands, it muft be 
 anfwered, with regret, but with iirmnefs, *' the pub- 
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 I do not propofr', as I to!;i ynu hrt'oif Cliriftmas, to 
 take away any piMiftoii. I know tiiat the puUiic fcciii 
 to call for a rtvUii'lion of fiicli of thcin as lliall ap- 
 pear unmcriuil. As a cfiiforiil at, ami punifh- 
 inent of an abufo, might anfvvir foim" purpofc. J^ut 
 this can make no part of mv plan. I nv.'an to pro- 
 ccrJ by bill ; and I cannot llop for fuch an en- 
 quiry. I know funic gcntlcir.cn may hhiino irc. It is 
 with iMcat fubniillion to lu'ttcr jiuignK-nts, that I rc- 
 commcnd it to conftderation -, that a critical rctfofpct- 
 tive ex:unination of the penfion liif, upon the principle 
 of merit, can never fervc for my balis. — It cannot 
 anfwcr, according to my plan, any eH'cclual purpofe 
 of ceconomy, or of future permanent reformation. 
 The proccfs in any way will be entangled and ditHcult ; 
 and it will be inlinitely flow : There is a danger that 
 if wc turn our line of march, now directed towards 
 the grand object, into this moro laborious than ufefiil 
 detail of operations, we Ihall never arrive at our end. 
 
 The king. Sir, has been by the conlHtution ap- 
 pointed fole judge of the merit for which a penfiun 
 is to be given. VVc have a right, undoubtedly, to 
 canvafs this, as wc have to canvafs every act of govern- 
 ment. But there is a material difference between an 
 office to be reformed, and a penfion taken away for 
 demerit. In the former call", no charge is implied 
 againft the holder; in the lattcr,his character is flurrcd, 
 as vvell as his lawful emolument affeiStcd. Th'.' former 
 procefs is againft the thing; the fectMul againft tlie 
 perfon. The penfioner certainly, if he pleaic;, has 
 a right to ftand on his own defence ; to plead his 
 pofi'effion ; and to bottom his title in tlie compet, luv 
 of the crown to give him what he holds. Puilelled, and 
 on the defenfive as he is, he will not be obliged to prove 
 his fpecial merit, in order to juftify the aft of legal drf- 
 cretion, now turned into his property, according to his 
 tenure. The very act, he will contend, is a legal pre- 
 fumption, and an implication of his merit. If this be fo, 
 from the natural force of all legal prefumption, lie 
 would put us to the ditHcult proof, that he has no merit 
 ::t all. Hut other qucftions would arife in the courfe of 
 f.uti ?,ii vruiniry ; that is, nucftions of the merit wlif;; 
 
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 weighed againft the proportion of the reward ; then the 
 difficulty will be much greater. 
 
 The difficulty will not, Sir, I am traid, be much 
 Icfs, if we pafs to the perfon really guilty, in the qucf- 
 tion of an unmerited pcnfion ; the miniftcr himfclf. I 
 admit, that when called to account for the execution of 
 a trult, he might fairly be obliged to prove the affirma- 
 tive ; and to ftn' "erit for which the penfion is given; 
 though on thi- .Uk himfelf, fuch a procefs would be 
 hard. If in tin-. < nination wc proceed methodically, 
 and (o as to avoid all fufpicion of partiality and pre- 
 judice, wc muft take the penfions in orj.r of time, or 
 merely alplKibitically. The very firft pcnlion to which 
 we come, in either of thcfe ways, may appear the molf 
 grofsly unmerited of any. liut the miniltcr may vcrvpof- 
 iibly Ihtw, that he knows nothing of the puttin- on this 
 penlion — tliat it was prior in time to Iiis admimitration 
 — that the minillcr, who laid it on, is dead ; and then 
 wc are thrown back upon the penfioncr himfclf, and 
 plunged into all our former difficulties. Abufes, and 
 grofs on.'s, I doubt not, would appear; and to the cor- 
 redion of which I would roadily give my hand; but, 
 when I confider that peiifions have not generally been 
 afiecHed by the revolutions cf minillry ; as I know not 
 where fuch enquiries would ftop ; and as an abfonce of 
 merit is a negative and loofc thing, one mi^ht be led 
 to derange the order of families, founded on the pro- 
 bable continuance of their kind of income. I might 
 hurt children ; I might injure creditors. I really think 
 it the more prudent coinle, not to follow the letter of 
 the petition?;. If we fix this mode of enquiry as a ba- 
 lls, v.-e fh;ill, I fear, end, as parliament h;is often ended 
 Jinder fnnilar circ.;iilhinces. There will be great de- 
 lay; much confufion ; much inequality in our proceed- 
 ings. But what prciVes mc moll of all is this; that thout^h 
 wc fhould 111 ike off all the unmerited penfions, whTle 
 the power of the crown remains unlimited, the very 
 fame undeferving pcrfons might afterwards return to 
 the very fame lilt : or if they did not, other pcrfons me- 
 riting as little as they do, might be put upon it to 
 an undefinable amount. This i think is the pinch of 
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 Tot theft: icafoiis. Sir, I atn obliijcd to wave thif? 
 mode of proceeding ;l^ ,iny part of my plan. In a plan 
 of rcfoimatron, it would be om: of my maxims, that 
 when I know of an eftablifliincnt which may be fub- 
 fervient to ufcful purpofc?, and which at the fame time, 
 from its uiferetionary nature, is liable to a very great 
 pcrvcrfion from thofe purpofes, JicsuU Uniit the quantity 
 of the power that might be fo abufccL f'or I am furc, 
 that in all fuch cafes, the rcv;ards of merit will have 
 very narrow bounds ; and that partial or corrupt favour* 
 ■Will be infinite. This principle is not arbitrary ; but 
 the limitation of the fpecific quantity muft be (o in 
 feme meafure. I therefore Itate yT. 6c,ooo ; leaving it 
 open to the houfe to enlarge or contract the fuin as 
 they fhall fee, on examination, that the difcrction I ufe 
 is fcanty or liberal. The whole amount of the pcnfions 
 of all denominations, which have been laid before us, 
 amount, for a period of feven years, to confiderably more 
 than jT. ioo,oco a year. To what the other lifts amount, 
 I know not. That will be {qqw hereafter. But from thofe 
 that do appear, a faving will accrue to the public, at 
 one time or other, of /,. 40,000 a year, and we had bet- 
 ter in my opinion to let it fall in naturally, than to tear 
 it crude and unripe from the ftalk. * 
 
 There is a y;ieat deal jf uneafmefs among the people^ 
 upon an article which I mult clafs under the head of 
 ptnfions. I mean l\\fi great patent offices in the exchequer. 
 They arc in reality and fubitance no other than pen- 
 fions, and in no other light (hall I confider them. 
 They are finecures. They are always executed by 
 deputy. The duty of the principal is as nothing. They 
 differ however from the pcnfions on the lilt, in fome 
 particulars. They are held for life. I think with the 
 public, that the profits of thofe places are grown 
 enormous; tlie magnitude of thofe profits, and the na- 
 ture of them, both call for reformation. The nature 
 of their profits which grow out of the public diltrefs is, 
 
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 ♦ It «as fuppoffid by the Lord Advocate, in a fubfcquent debate, thrt 
 Ji£r. E.irkc, btcaule he objedlcd to an t:nc,uiry into the pcnfion lift tor the 
 pjriiufeof orcunumy »nd relief of the public, would have it withheld from 
 the iudiynKiit of parliament for all purpofijs whatfoever. This learned 
 gentleiiatv ccrt.tinly inifLindeiftood hitn. His plun Ihtw;; that he wi:!.cd 
 the vjiulc iill tt) be eaiijy acceflible; and he knows that the public eye i» ' 
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 itftlf invidious and grievous. But I fear that reform 
 cannot be immediate. I find myfelf under a reftric- 
 tion. Thefe places, and others of the fame kind, 
 wliich arc held for life, have been confulered as pro- 
 perty. They have been given as a provifion for chil- 
 dren; they have been the fubjeift of family fettlemcnts; 
 they have been the fecurity of creditors. What the 
 law refpciSts fhall be facred to me. If the barriers of 
 law (hould be broken down, upon ideas of conve- 
 nience, even of public convenience, we (hall have no 
 longer any thing certain among us. If the difcretion 
 of power is once let loofc upon property, we can be at 
 no lofs to determine whofe power, and what difcretion 
 it is that will prevail at laft. It would be wife to 
 attend upon the order of things ; and not to attempt to 
 outrun the flow, but fmooth and even courfe of na- 
 ture. There arc occafions, I admit, of public necef- 
 fity, fo vaft, fo clear, fo evident, that they fuperfede 
 all laws. Law being only made for the benefit of the 
 community cannot in any one of its parts, refift a de- 
 mand which may comprehend the total of the public 
 intereft. To be fure, no law can fet itfelf up againft 
 the caufe and reafon of all law. But fuch a cafe very 
 rarely happens ; and this moft certainly is not fuch a 
 cafe. The mere time of the reform is by no means 
 worth the facrifice of a principle of law. Individuals 
 pafs like fhadows ; but the commonwealth is fixed and 
 ihble. The difference therefore of to-day and to- 
 morrow, which to private people is immenfe, to the 
 ftate is nothing. At any rate it is better, if poffible, 
 to reconcile our oeconomy with our laws, than to fet 
 them at variance ; a quarrel which in the end muft be 
 deftru»Stive to both. 
 
 My idea, therefore, is to reduce thofe officers to 
 fixed falaries, as the prefent lives and reverfions fhall 
 fuccefliveiy fall. I mean, that the office of the great 
 auditor (the auditor of the receipt) fhall be reduced to 
 £■ 3,000 a year j and the auditors of the imprefl and 
 the reft of the principal officers, to fixed appointment* 
 ^^£'^^$00 a year each. It will not be difficult to 
 calculate the value of this fall of lives to the public, 
 when we fhall have obtained a juft account of the pre- 
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 not alarmed with any apprehcnfion of danger to their 
 freehold office. 
 
 I know too, that it will be demanded of mc, how 
 it comes, that llnce I admit thcfc offices to be i\o better 
 than penllons, I chofe, after the principle of law had 
 been fatisficd, to retain them at all ? To this, Sir, 1 
 aniwcr, that conceiving it to be a fundamental part of 
 the conftitution of this country, and of the reafon of 
 ftate in every country, that there mult be means of re- 
 warding public fervicc, thofe means will be incom- 
 plete, and indeed wholly infufficient for that purpok, 
 if there fhould be no further reward for that fcrvicc, 
 than the daily wages it receives during the plealurc of 
 the crown. 
 
 Whoever ferioufly confidcrs the excellent argument 
 of Lord Somcrs, in the banker's cafe, will fee he bot- 
 toms himfelf upon the very fame maxim which I do ; 
 and one of his principal grounds of doftrinc for the 
 alienability of the domain in England ♦ contrary to the 
 maxim of the law in France, he lays in vhe conltitu- 
 tional policy, of furni(hing a permanent reward to pub- 
 lic fervice ; of making that reward the origin of fami- 
 lies, and the foundation of wealth as well as of ho- 
 nours. It is indeed the only genuine unadulterated 
 origin of nobility. It is a great principle in govern- 
 ment ; a principle at the very foundation of the whole 
 ftrudturc. The other judges who held the faiiK- doc- 
 trine, went beyond Lord Somers with regard to the re- 
 medy, which they thought was given by law againit 
 the crown, upon the grant of pcnfions. Indeed no 
 man knows, when he cuts oft* the inciteimnts to a vir- 
 tuous ambition, and thcjufl rewards of public fervice, 
 what infinite mifchicf he may do his countrv, through 
 all generations. Such faving to the public may prove 
 the worft mode of robbing it. The crown, which ha:< 
 in its hands the truft of the daily pay for national fir- 
 vicc, ought to have in its hands alio the means for the 
 repofe of public labour, and the fixed fettlcmcnt of 
 acknowledged merit. There is a time, when the 
 
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 Weather-beaten veffels of the ftate, ought to come into 
 harbour. They muftat length have a retreat from the 
 malice of rivals, from the perfidy of political friends, 
 and the inconftancy of the people. Many of the per- 
 fons, who in all times have filled the great offices of 
 ftate, have been younger brothers, who had originally 
 little, if any fortune. Thefe offices do not furnifli the 
 means of amaffing wealth. There ought to be fome 
 power in the crown of granting penfions out of the 
 reach of its own caprices. An intail of dependence is a 
 bad reward of merit. 
 
 I would, therefore, leave to the crown the poffibility 
 ot conferring fome favours, which, whilft they arc 
 received as a reward, do not operate as corruption. 
 When men receive obligations from the crown through 
 the pious hands of fathers, or of connexions as vene- 
 rable as the paternal, the dependences which arife from 
 thence, arc the obligations of gratitude, and not the 
 fetters of fervility. Such ties originate in virtue, and 
 iliey pom te it. They continue men in thofe habi- 
 tudes ot •'■■ . irSip, thofe political connections, and 
 ihofe pol u. i principles in which they began life. 
 They are ai.iuotes againffc a corrupt levity, inftead of 
 caufes of it. What an unfecmly fpeitacle would it 
 uftbrd, what a difgrace would it be to the common- 
 wealth that fufFercd fuch things, to fee the hopeful 
 «bn of a meritorious minilter begging his bread at the 
 door of that treafury, from whence his father dif- 
 pcnfed the oeconomy of an empire, and promoted the 
 happincfs and glory of his country ? Why fliould he 
 be obliged to proftrate his honour, and to iubmit his 
 principles at the levee of fome proud favourite, ihoul- 
 dorcd and thruft afide by every impuucnt pretender, 
 on the very fpot where a few days before he law himfcif 
 adored ? — obliged to cringe to the author of the 
 calamities of his houfe, and to Icifs the haiuis that are 
 red with his father's blood ? — No, Sir, — Thde tilings 
 arc unfit — They are intolerable. 
 
 Sir, I (hall be afked, why I do notchufc to dcftroy 
 thofe offices which are penfions, and appoii;*" penfions 
 under the direct title in their ftead ? I allow, that in 
 fome cafes it leads to abufc ; to have things appointed 
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 great objeilion to fuch a change : but I do not think it 
 quite prudent for me to propoie it. If I fhould take 
 away the prefent eftablifnnfent, the burthen of proof 
 refts upon me, that fo many penHons, and no more, 
 and to fuch an amount each, and no more, are ne- 
 ceffary for the public fervice. This is what I can ne- 
 ver prove 'y for it is a thing incapable of definition. I 
 do not like to take away an objedl that I think anCwers 
 my purpofe, in hopes of getting it back again in abetter 
 ihape. People will bear an old eftabliihmcnt when its 
 cxcefs is corrected, who will revolt at a new one. I do 
 not think thefe office-penfions to be more in number 
 than fufficient : but on that point the Houfe will cx- 
 ercife its difcretion. As to abufe, I am convinced, 
 that very few trufts in the ordinary courfe of admini- 
 flration, have admitted lefs abufe than this. Efficient 
 minifters have been their own paymaftcrs. It is true. 
 But their very partiality has operated as a kind of juf- 
 tice ; and Hill it was fervice that was paid. When wc 
 look over this pvchequer lift, wr find it filled with the 
 dcfccndants of the Walpolcs, of the Pclhams, of the 
 Townfliends; names to whc .. this country owes its 
 liberties, and to whom his majefty owes his crown. It 
 was in one of thefe lines, that the immenfe and envied 
 employment he now holds, came to a certain duke*, 
 who is now probably fitting quietly at a very good din- 
 ner dire«Stly under us; and adting high life Mow JiairSy 
 whilft wc, his matters, are filling our mouths with 
 unfubftantial founds, and talkini'; of hungry itconomy 
 over his head. But he is the elder branch of an an- 
 cient and decayed houfe, joined to, and repaired by 
 the reward of ferviccs done by another. I rcfpctSt the 
 original title, and the firft purchafc of merited wealth 
 and honour through all its dcfccnts, through all its 
 transfers, and all its aflicnments. May fuch fountains 
 never be dried up ! May they ever flow with their 
 original purity, and refrem and fru«^ify the common- 
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 clearly, and as fully, ^0^^°/^ ^"jS " My limits are the 
 formation, as for pro'^eeding m .t. my ^^^^.^^ ^^ 
 
 rules of law; the rules »» P°\X' T am not able to 
 the ftatc. This is the "^^^^^^^ .^^^^ Ji^rfeems to be a 
 intermeddle with another artjcle^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^^^ 
 
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 exorbitant cmolumeng,IJhouU^^^^^^ J^ 
 
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 between real fcrv.ce ^fj^'Z^k ^vhich isWrdly 
 that ftatcs do f^'-^^STcroTdingo their worth. If! 
 
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 be overpaid. The >^7''' r^- ^^j ftruck down to 
 which cannot be P"\^^° ""^;'°' \he cheapeft. When 
 thofe who W.11 fJ^^;;^'^:Xl and fervid is our ob- 
 the proportion between ^^r-; . . ^ .^^ture the fervice 
 jea, we muft always '^""^f/ ^^JJ^^^'^uft perform it. 
 is, and what fort of "^^"^^J/^fJ^^ Sbou?, and full 
 What is jurt payment f°/ /'"'^^/"Xt,, j^ fraud and 
 encouragement for one k«nd of talent^ ^^^^^ 
 
 difcouragement ^o others. Many ott^^ 
 have much duty to do, ^j^^^^^^y of (late, for in- 
 fentation to maintain. ^J'"" h^: eyes of the mi- 
 ftance, muft not aPpear ford d " the e> ^^^ ^.^.^^^^ 
 
 niftersof other nations ij^^'f^[^ ^^^^ts where they 
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 rcfide. In allofficcs o d" ^^h^; '^^ ^ fon in high 
 agrcatiKgleaot all dcmK^^caffa.^^^ f^n^fly-houfe. If 
 office can rarely take a view ^^^^■^,,,,^ the ftatc 
 
 he fees \i"^*^^,ff^f;;ft,'ou?d take as little, 
 muft fee that his f «'^« Z^^*^; ,ffirm, that if men were 
 1 will even go fo f ^ ^^^^^^ ^[.^out falary, they 
 willing to ferve '» j"^*^ J^^^ jo it. Ordinary fervice 
 ought not ^"^frX'otivcstoordinary integrity. I 
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 corruption. An honourable and fair profit is thtf beft 
 fecurity againft avarice and rapacity ; as in all things 
 elfe, a lawful and regulated enjoyment is the beft fecu- 
 rity againft debauchery and excefs. For as wealth is 
 power, fo all power will infallibly draw wealth to itfelf 
 by fome means or other : and when men are left no way 
 of afcertaining their profits but by their means of ob- 
 taining them, thofe means will be encreafed to infinity. 
 This is true in all the parts of adminiftration, as well as 
 in the whole. If any individual were to decline his ap- 
 pointments,' it might give an unfair advantage to often- 
 tatious ambition over unpretending fervice ; it might 
 breed invidious comparifons ; it might tend to deftroy 
 whatever little unity and agreement may be found 
 among minifters. And after all, when an ambitious 
 man had run down his competitors by a fallacious fliew 
 of difmtercftednefs, and fixed himfelf in power by that 
 means, what fecurity is there that he would not change 
 his courfe, and claim as an indemnity ten times more 
 than he has given up ? 
 
 This rule, like every other, may admit its exceptions. 
 \Vhen a great man has fome one great obje<^ in view 
 to be atchicvcd in a given time, it may be abfolutely 
 neceflary for him to walk out of all the common roads, 
 and if his fortune permits it, to hold himfelf out as a 
 fplcndid example. I am told, that fomething of this 
 kind is now doing in a country near us. But this is 
 for a fhort race ; the training for a heat or two, and 
 not the proper preparation for the regular ftages of a 
 methodical journey. lam fpcaking of eftablilhments, 
 ^nd not of men. 
 
 It may be cxpciStcd, Sir, that when I am giving my 
 reafons why I limit myfelf in the rcdu£tion of employ- 
 ments, or of their profits, I (hould fay fomething of 
 thofe which feem of eminent inutility in the ftate ; I 
 mean the number of officers who by their places are at- 
 tendant on the perfon of the king. Confidering the 
 commonwealth merely as fuch, and confidering thofe 
 officers only as relative to the dired purpofes of the 
 ftate, I admit that they are of no ufe at all. But there 
 are many things in the conftitution of eftablifhmcnts, 
 which appear of little value on the firft view, which i.i 
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 advantages. It was on full confideration that I de- 
 termined not to leflen any of the offices of honour 
 about the crown, in their number, or their emolu- 
 ments. Thefe emoluments, except in one or two cafes, 
 do npt much more than anfwer the charge of attend- 
 ance. Men of condition naturally love to be about a 
 court; and women of condition love it much more. 
 But there is in all regular attendance, fo much of con- 
 ftraint, that if it were a mere charge, without any com- 
 penfation, you would foon have the court dcfcrted by 
 all the nobility of the kiP7''.om. 
 
 Sir, the moft ferious . •.'ch''-' would follow from 
 fuch a defertion. Kings are . rally lovers of low 
 company. They are fo elevatea ove all the reft of 
 mankind, that they muft look upon all their fubjects 
 as on a level. They are rather apt to hate than to love 
 their nobility, on account of the occafional refiftancc 
 to thvfir will, which will be made by their virtue, their 
 petulance, or their pride. It muft indeed be admitted, 
 that many of the nobility are as perfedly willing to ail 
 the part of flatterers, tale-bearers, parafites, pimps, 
 and buffoons, as any of the loweft and \i\cl\ of man- 
 kind can poffibly be. But they are not properly qua- 
 lified for this objedl of their ambition. The want of 
 a regular education, and early habits, and feme lurk- 
 ing remains of their dignity, will never permit them to 
 become a match for an Italian eunuch, a mountebank, 
 a fidler, a player, or any regular praiStitioner of that 
 tribe. The Roman emperors almoll from the begin- 
 nino-, threw themfplvcs into fuch hands ; and the mif- 
 chief increafed every day till its decline, and its final 
 ruin. It is therefore of very great importance (pro- 
 vided the thing is not overdone) to contrive fuch an 
 eftablilhmcnt as muft, almoft whether a prince will or 
 not, bring into daily and hourly offices about his pcr- 
 fon, a great number of his firft nobility 5 and it is ra- 
 ther an ufcful prejudice that gives them a priiic in fuch 
 a fervitude. Though they are not much the better 
 for a court, a court will be much the better for them. 
 I have therefore not attempted to reform any of the 
 offices of honour about the king's pcrfon. 
 
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 the feveral keepers of buck-hounds, ftag-hounds, fox- 
 hounds, and harriers. They anfwer no purpofe of 
 utility or of fplendor. Thefe I propofe to abolifh. 
 It is not proper that great noblemen fliould be keep- 
 ers of dogs, though they were the king's dogs. In 
 every part of my fcheme, I have endeavoured that no 
 primary, and that even no fecondary fervice of the 
 itate, inould fuffer by its frugality. I mean to touch 
 no offices but fuch as I am perfectly fure, arc either 
 of no ufe at all, or not of any ufe in the Icaft aflign- 
 able proportion to the burthen with which they load 
 the revenues of the kingdom, and to the influence with 
 which they opprefs the freedom of parliamentary deli- 
 beration ; for which reafon «^here are but two offices 
 which are properly ftate offices, that I have a defire 
 to reform. 
 
 The firft of them is the new office of third fecretary 
 tfjiate^ which is commonly called y^^r^Mry ofjtatefor 
 the colonies. 
 
 We know that all the correfpondencc of the colonies 
 had been, until within a few years, carried on b/ the 
 fouthern fecretary of ftate; and that this department 
 has not been (hunned upon account of the weight of 
 its duties ; but on the contrary, much fought, on ac- 
 count of its patronage. Indeed he muft be poorly ac- 
 quainted with the hiftory of office, who docs not know 
 how very lightly the American fundlions have always 
 leaned on the moulders of the minifterial Jtlas^ who 
 has upheld that fide of the fphere. Undoubtedly, great 
 temper and judgment v/as requifite in the management 
 of the colony politics j but the official detail was a 
 trifle. Since the new appointment, a train of unfor- 
 tunate accidents has brouj^ht before us almoft the whole 
 correfpondencc of this favourite fecretary's office, fince 
 the firft day of its eftablifhment. I will fay nothing of 
 its aufpicious foundation ; of the quality of its corref- 
 pondencc ; or of the effects that have enfued from it. 
 I fpeak merely of its quantity, which we know would 
 have been little or no addition to the trouble of what- 
 ever office had its hands the fulleft. But what has 
 been the real condition of the old office of fecretary of 
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 been fo full, that nothing more could poifibly be cram- 
 med into them ? 
 
 A correfpondence of a ctirious nature has been lately 
 publifhcd *. In that correfpondence, Sir, we find, the 
 opinion of a noble perfon, who is thought to be the 
 grand manufadturcr of adminiftrations ; and therefore 
 the beft judge of the quality of his work. He was of 
 opinion, that there was but one man of diligence and 
 induftry in the whole adminiftration — it was the late 
 earl of Suffolk. The noble lord lamented very juftly, 
 that this ftatefman, of fo much mental vigour, wa« 
 almoft wholly difablcd from the exertion of it, by his 
 bodily infirmities. Lord Suffolk, dead to the ftate, 
 long before he was dead to nattire, at laft paid his tri- 
 bute to the common treafury to which we muft all be 
 taxed. But fo little want was found even of his in- 
 tentio«al induftry, that the office, vacant in reality to 
 its duties long before, continued vacant even in nomi- 
 nation and appointment for a year after his detth. 
 The whole of the laborious and arduous correfpondence 
 of this empire, reftcd folely upon the a£livity and ener- 
 gy of Lord Weymouth. 
 
 It is therefore dcmonftrable, fincc one diligent man 
 was fully equal to the duties of the two offices, that two 
 diligent men will be equal to the duty of three. The 
 bufincfs of the new office which I fhall prooofe to you 
 to fupprefs, is by no means too much to be returned to 
 either of the fecrctarics which remain. If this duft in 
 the balance (hould be thought too heavy, it may be di- 
 vided between them both ; North America (whether 
 free or reduced ) to the northern fecretary, thj Weft 
 Indies to the fouthcrn. It is not neceffary that I (hould 
 f.iy more upon the inutility of this office. It is burn- 
 ing day light. But before I have done, I fhall juft re- 
 mark, that the hiftorv of this office is too recent to fuf- 
 ftr us to forget, that it was made for the mere convex- 
 nicncc of the arrangements of political intrigue, and not 
 foi the fervice of the ftatc ; that it was made, in order 
 to give a colour to an exorbitant increafe of the civil 
 lift; and in the fame a<51: to bring a new accelfion to 
 the loaded compoft heap of corrupt influence, 
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 fincc, clofcly connefted with this of the American fc- 
 cretary ; but has been lately fcparated from it for the 
 very fame purpofe for which it had been conjoined ; I 
 mean the fole purpofe of all the feparations and all 
 conjun£lions that have been lately made — a job. — I 
 fpealc, Sir, of the board of trade and plantations. This 
 board is a fort of temperate bed of influence j a fort of 
 gently ripening hot-houfe, where eight members of par- 
 liament receive falaries of a thoufand a year, for a cer- 
 tain given time, in order to mature at a proper feafon, 
 a claim to two thoufand, granted for doing lefs, and 
 on the credit of having toiled fo long in that inferior 
 laborious department. 
 
 I have known that board, ofF and on, for a great 
 number of years. Both of its pretended objefts have 
 been much the objefts of my ftudy, if I have a right 
 to call any purfuits of mine by fo refpedable a name. 
 I can aflure the houfe, and I hope they will not think 
 that I ri(k my little credit lightly, that, without mean- 
 ing 'to convey the leaft refledtion upon any one of its 
 members pad or prefent, — it is a board which, if not 
 mifchievous, is of no ufe at all. 
 
 You will be convinced. Sir, that I am not miflaken, if 
 you refle£l how generally it is true, that commerce, 
 the principal objedt of that office, flourifhes moft when 
 it is left to itfelf. Intereft, the great guide of com- 
 merce, is not a blind one. It is very well able to find 
 its own way; and its neccflitics arc its beii laws. But 
 if it were pofTible, In the nature of things, that the 
 young fhould diredt the old, and the inexperienced in- 
 ftrud the knowing ; if a board in the ftate was the 
 beft tutor for the counting-houfe ; if the dtfk ought to 
 read leisures to the anvil, and the pen to ufurp the 
 place of the (buttle — yet in any matter of regulation, 
 we know that board muft aft with as little authority 
 as (kill. The prerogative of the crown is utterly in- 
 adequate to its object ; becaufe all regulations are, in 
 their nature, reftriftive of fome liberty. In the reign 
 indeed, of Charles the firjl^ the council, or committees 
 cf council, were never a moment unoccupied, with af- 
 fairs of trade. But even where they had no ill inten- 
 tion (which was fometimes the. cafe) trade and manu- 
 fadture fufFered infinitely from their injudicious tamper- 
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 wanting (for I do not deny, that fometimes It may be 
 wanting) parliament conftantly fits ; and parliament 
 alone is competent to fuch regulation. We want no 
 inftruclions from boards of trade, or from any other 
 board ; and God forbid we ihould give the lead atten- 
 tion to their reports. Parliamentary enquiry is the 
 only mode of obtaining parliamentary information. 
 There is more real knowledge to be obtained, by at- 
 tending the detail of bufmeis in the committees above 
 fiairs, than ever did come, or ever will come from any 
 board in this kingdom, or from all of them together. 
 An afliduous member of parliament will not be the worfe 
 inftrufted there, for not being paid a thoufand a year 
 for learning his lelTon. And nuw that I fpeak of the 
 committees above ftairs, I muft fay, that having till 
 latelv attended them a good deal, I have obferved that 
 no defcription of members give fo little attendance, 
 either to communicate, or to obtain inftruftion upon 
 matters of commerce, as the honourable members of the 
 
 frave board of trade. 1 really do not recoUedt, that 
 have ever feen one of them in that fort of bufinefs. 
 Poffibly, fome members may have better memories; 
 and may call to mind fome job that may have accident- 
 ally brought one or other of them, at one time or other^ 
 to ?ttend a matter of commerce. 
 
 This board. Sir, has had both its original formation, 
 and its regeneration, in a job. In a job it was con- 
 ceived, and in a job its mother brought it forth. It 
 made one among thofe ihewy and fpecious impofitions, 
 which one of the experiment-making adminiftrations of 
 Char Irs the fecond held out to delude the people, and to 
 be fubftiiuted in the place of the real fervice which they 
 might expert from a parliament annually fitting. It 
 was intended alfo to corrupt that body whenever it 
 fhould be permitted to fit. It was projeded in the year 
 1668, and it continued in a tottering and ricketty 
 childhood for about three or four years, for It died in 
 the year 1673, a babe of as little hopes as ever fwelled 
 the bills of mortality in the article of convulfed or 
 over-laid children, who have hardly ftepped over the 
 threfhold of life. 
 
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 ill fuccc^ that attended his wars, in the year 1695, the 
 trade was diftrefled beyond all example of former fufFer- 
 ings, by the piracies of the French cruifers. This fuf- 
 fering incenfed, and, as it fliould feem, very juftly in- 
 cenfed, the houfe of commons. In this ferment they 
 ilruck, not only at the adminiftration, but at the very 
 eonftitution of the executive government. They at- 
 tempted to form in parliament a board for the protection 
 of trade } which, as they planned it, was to draw to itfelf 
 a great part, if not the whole, of the funAions and pow- 
 ers, both of the admiralty, and of the treafury j and 
 thus, by a parliamentary delegation of office and officers, 
 they threatened abfolutely to feparate thefe departments 
 from the whole fyftem of the executive government, and 
 of courfe to veil the mod leading and eflfential of its at- 
 tributes in this board. As the executive government 
 was in a manner convi£led of a dereliiElion of its func- 
 tions, it was with infinite difficulty, that this blow was 
 warded ofF in that feffion. There was a threat to renew 
 the lame attempt in the next. To prevent the effe£l of 
 this manoeuvre, the court oppofed another manoeuvre to 
 it; and in the year 1696, called into life this board of 
 trade, which had flept fmce 1673. 
 
 This, in a few words, is the hiftory of the regenera- 
 tion of the board of trade. It has perfedly anfwered 
 its purpofes. It was intended to quiet the minds of 
 the people, and to compofe the ferment that then was 
 ftrongly working in parliament. The courtiers were 
 too happy to be able to fubftitute a board, which they 
 knew would be ufelefs, in the place of one that they 
 feared would be dangerous. Thus the board of trade 
 was reproduced in a job i and perhaps it is the only in- 
 ftance of a public body, which has never degenerated ; 
 but to this hour preferves all the health and vigour of 
 its primitive inftitution. 
 
 This board of trade and plantations has not been of 
 any ufe to the colonies, as colonies ; fo little of ufe, 
 that the flourifhing fettlements of New England, of 
 Virginia, and of Maryland, and all our wealthy colo- 
 nies in the Weft Indies, were of a date prior to the firft 
 board of Charles the fecond. Penfylvania and Caro- 
 lina were fettled during its dark quarter, in the interval 
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 to that board. Georgia, which, till lately, has made 
 a very flow progrefs ; and never did make any progrefs 
 at all, until it wholly got rid of all the regulations 
 which the board of trade had moulded into its original 
 conftitution. That colony has coft the nation very 
 great fums of money ; whereas the colonies which have 
 had the fortune of not being godfathered by the board 
 of trade, never coft the nation a (hilling, except what 
 has been fo properly fpent in lofing them. But the colo- 
 ny of Georgia, weak as it was, carried with it to the laft 
 hour, and carries, even in its prefentdead pallid vifagc, 
 the perfect refemblance of its parents. It always had, 
 and it now has, an tJiabUJbment paid by the public of 
 England, for the fake of the influence of the crow ; 
 that colony having never been able or willing to take 
 upon itfelf the expence of its proper government, or its 
 own appropriated jobs. 
 
 The province of Nova Scotia was the youngeft and 
 the favourite child of the board. Good God ! What fums 
 the nurfmg of that ill-thriven, hard-vifagcd, and ill- 
 favoured brat, has coft to this wittol nation ? Sir, this 
 colony has ftood us in a fum of not lefs than feven hun- 
 dred thoufand pounds. To this day it has made no re- 
 payment — It does not even fupport thofe offices of ex- 
 pence, which are mifcalled its government } the whole 
 of that job ftill lies upon the patient, callous (boulders 
 of the people of England. 
 
 Sir, I am going to ftate a fa£l to you, that will (erve 
 to fet in full funfhine the real value of formality and of- 
 ficial fupcrintendance. There was in the province of 
 Nova Scotia, one little neglcdtcd corner ; the country 
 of the neutral French ; which having the good fortune 
 to efcape the foftering care both of France and England, 
 and to have been (hut out from the protetStion and regu- 
 lation of councils of commerce, and of boar<i? ;•(* trade, 
 did, in filencc, without notice, and without ^uuftance, 
 Incrcafe to a confiderable degree. But it feems our na- 
 tion had more (kill and ability in deftroying, than in 
 fettling a colony. In the laft war we did, in my opi* 
 nion, molt inhumanly, and upon pretences that in the 
 eye of an honclt man are not worth a farthing, root out 
 this poor innocent deferving people, whom our utter 
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 inability to govern, or to reconcile, gave us no Tort of 
 right to extirpate. Whatever the merits of that extir- 
 pation might have been, it was on the footfteps of a 
 negledted people, it was on the fund of unconftrained 
 poverty, it was on the acquifitions of unregulated in- 
 duftry, that any thing which deferves the name of a 
 colony in that province, has been formed. It has been 
 formed by overflowings from the exuberant population 
 of New England, and by emigration, from other parts 
 of Nova Scotia, of fugitives from the protedion of 
 the board of trade. 
 
 But if all of thefe things were not more than fuffi- 
 eient to prove to you the inutility of that expenfive 
 eftablifhment, I would deftre you to recolIe6V, Sir, 
 that thofe who may be very ready to defend it, are 
 very cautious how they employ it i cautious how they 
 employ it even in appearance and pretence. They are 
 afraid they (hould lofe the benefit of its influence in par- 
 liament, if they feemed to keep it up for any other pur- 
 pofe. If ever there were commercial points of great 
 weigh^ and moft clofely conneded with our depen- 
 dences, they are thofe which have been agitated and 
 decided in parliament ilnce I came into it. Which of 
 the innumerable regulations fincemade had their origin 
 or their improvement in the board of trade ? Did any 
 of the feveral Eaft India bills which have been fuc- 
 ceflively produced fince 1767, originate there ? Did any 
 one dream of referring them, or any part of them thi- 
 ther? Was any body lb ridiculous as even to think of 
 it ? If ever there was an occafion on which the board 
 was fit to be confulted, it was with regard to the adts, 
 that were preludes to the American war, or attendant 
 on its commencement : thofe adts were full of com- 
 mercial regulations, fuch as they were; — the inter- 
 courfc bill j the prohibitory bill ; the fifhery bill f If 
 the board was not concerned in fuch things, in what 
 particular was it thought Ht that it (hould be concern- 
 ed ? In the courfc of all thefe bills throu:i;h the hoiife, I 
 obferved the members of that board to bo remarkably 
 cautious of intermeddling. They uiulcrilood decorum 
 better; they know that matters of U\uU and plantations 
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 There were two very recent occafions, on which, if 
 the idea of any ufe for the board had not been extin- 
 gulfhed by prefcription, appeared loudly to call for their 
 interference. 
 
 When commiffioners were fent to pay his majefty's 
 and our dutiful refpedts to the congrefs of the United 
 States, a part of their powers under the commiflion 
 were, it feems, of a commercial nature. They were 
 authorized in the moft ample and undefined manner, to 
 form a commercial treaty with America on the fpot. 
 This was no trivial objeft. As the formation of fuch 
 a treaty would neceffarily have been no lefs than the 
 breaking up of our whole commercial fyftem, and the 
 giving it an entire new form ; one would imagine, that 
 the board of trade would have fat day and night, to 
 model propofitions, which, on our fide, might ferve as 
 a bafis to that treaty. No fuch thing. Their learned 
 Icifure was not in the leaft interrupted, though one of 
 the members of the board was a commiflioner, and 
 might, in mere compliment to his ofHce, have been fup- 
 pofed to make a (hew of deliberation on the fubjcit. 
 But he knew, that his colleagues would have thought 
 he laughed in their faces, had he attempted to bring 
 a«y thing the moft diftantly relating to commerce or 
 colonies before them. A noble pcrfon, engaged in the 
 fame commiffion, and fent to learn his commercial ru- 
 diments in New York, (then under the operation of an 
 adt for the univerfal prohibition of trade) was foon af- 
 ter put at the head of that board. This contempt 
 from the prefcnt minifters of all the pretended funftions 
 of that board, and their manner of breathing into its 
 very foul, of infpiring it with its animating and pre- 
 fiding principle, puts an end to all difpute concerning 
 their opinion of the clay it was made of. But I will 
 give them heaped meafurc. 
 
 It was but the other day, that the noble lord in the 
 blue ribbon carried up to the houfe of peers, two a«fts, 
 altering, I think much for the better, but altering, in 
 a great degree, our whole commercial fyftem. Thefe 
 a£ts, I mean, for giving a free trade to Ireland inv 
 woollens and in all things clfc, with independent na- 
 tions, and giving them an equal trade to our own 
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 you conceive that the anxious folicitude of the noble 
 lord in the blue ribbon, would have wholly deflroyed 
 the plan of fummer recreation of that board, by re- 
 ferences to examine, compare, and digeft matters for 
 parliament — You would imagine, that Irifti commif- 
 ilonersof cuftoms and Englifh commifTioners of cuftoms, 
 and commiflioners of excife, that merchants and manu- 
 fafturers of every denomination, had daily crowded 
 their outer rooms. ^/7 horum. The perpetual virtual 
 adjournment, and the unbroken fitting vacation of that 
 board, was no more difturbed by the Irifh than by the 
 plantation commerce, or any other commerce. The 
 fame matter made a large part of the bufinefs which 
 occupied the houfe for two feffions before j and as our 
 miniiters were not then mellowed by the mild, emol- 
 lient, and engaging blandifliments of our dear fifter, 
 into all the tendernefs of unqualified furrender, the 
 bounds and limits of a reftrained benefit naturally re- 
 quired much detailed management and pofitive regula- 
 tion. But neither the qualificxl propofitions which 
 were received, nor thofe other qualified propofitions 
 which were rejected by miniiters, were the leafl con- 
 cern of theirs, or were they ever thought of in the 
 bufinefs. 
 
 It is therefore. Sir, on the opinion of parliament, 
 qn the opinion of the minifters, and even on their 
 own opinion of their inutility, that I fhall propofc to 
 you to fupprcfs the board of trade and plantations ; and 
 to recommit all its bufinefs to the council from whence 
 it was very improvidcntly taken ; and which bufinefs 
 (whatever it might be) was much better done and 
 without any expence ; and indeed where in cfix'dt it 
 m!>y all come at laft. Almoft all that defervcs the 
 name of bufinefs there, is the reference of the plan- 
 tation adts, to the opinion of gentlemen of the law. 
 But all this may be done, as the Irifli bufinefs of 
 the fame natui has always been done, by the coun- 
 cil, and with a reference to the attorney and folicitor 
 general. 
 
 There are fome regulations in the houfchold, rela- 
 tive to the officers of the yeomen of the guards, and 
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 pofe of regulating eftablifhments, which at prefent are 
 much abufed. 
 
 I have now finiflied all, that for the prefent I (hall 
 trouble you with on the plan of reduSlioH. I mean next 
 to propofe to you the plan of arrangement, by which I 
 mean to appropriate and fix the civil lift money to its 
 fevcral fcrvices according to their nature j for I am 
 thoroughly fenfible, that if a difcretion, wholly ar* 
 bitrary, can be exercifed over the civil lift revenue, al- 
 though the moft efFeftual methods may be taken to pre* 
 vent the inferior departments from exceeding their 
 bounds, the plan of reformation will ftill be left very 
 imperfedl. It will not, in my opinion, be fafe to 
 permit an entirely arbitrary difcretion even in the firft 
 lord of the treafury himfelf : It will not be fafe to leave 
 with him a power of diverting the public money from 
 its proper objects, of paying it in an irreg'ular courfcj 
 or of inverting perhaps the order of time, diftated by 
 the proportion of value, which ought to regulate his 
 application of payment to fervice, 
 
 I am fenfible too, that the very operation of a plan 
 of (Economy which tends to exonerate the civil lift of 
 expenfive eftablifliments, may in fome fort defeat the 
 capital end we have in view, the independence of par- 
 liament ; and that in removing the public and oftenfible 
 means of influence, wc may incrcafe the fund of pri- 
 vate corruption. I have thought of fome methods to 
 prevent an abufe of furplus cafh under difcretionary ap- 
 plication ; I mean the heads of fecret fervice, fpeciat 
 fervice, various payments, and the like ; which, I hope^ 
 will anfwer, and which in due time I (hall lay before 
 yoii. Where I am unable to limit the quantity of the 
 fums to be applied, by rcafon of the uncertain quan- 
 tity of the fervice, I endeavour to confine it to its line', 
 to fecure an indefinite application to the definite fervice 
 to which it belongs ; not, to ftop the progrcfs of ex- 
 pence in its line, but to confine it tu that line in which 
 it profcflcs to move. 
 
 But that part of my plan, Sir, upon which I princi- 
 pally reft, that, on which i rely for the piirpofe of 
 binding up, and fecuring 
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 it {hall not be permitted to the firft lord of the treafury, 
 tipon any pretence whatfoever, to depart from. I 
 therefore divide the civil lift payments into nine clafles, 
 putting each clafs forward according to the importance 
 orjuftice of the demand, and to the inability of the 
 perfons entitled to enforce their pretenfjons; that is, 
 to put thofe firft v/ho have the molt efficient offices, or 
 claim the jufteft debts ; and, at the fame time, from the 
 character of that defcriptionof men,from the retirednelV, 
 or the remotenefs of their fituation, or from their want 
 of weight and power to enforce their pretenfions, or 
 from their being entirely fubjedt to the power of a mi- 
 nifter, without any reciprocal power of awing, ought 
 to be the moft conftdered, and are the moft lijcely to be 
 neglejfted; all thefe I place in th^ higheft clafles : I 
 place in the loweft thofe whofe fun£tions are of the 
 leaft importance, but whofe perfons or ran '.c are often 
 of the greateft power and influence. 
 
 In the firft clafs I place thejudgesy as of the firft im-. 
 portance. It is the public juftice that holds the com- 
 munity together ; the eafe, therefore, and indcpend^ 
 ence of the judges, ought to fupcrfede all other confi- 
 deratioiis, and they ought to be the very laft to feel 
 the neceflitits of the ftate, or to be obliged either t© 
 court or bully a minifter for their right : They ought 
 to be as weak foUcitors on their own demands^ as ftrenun 
 ous afliertors of the rights and liberties of others. The 
 judges are, or ought to be, of a referved and retired 
 charafler, and wholly unconnected with the political 
 world. 
 
 In the fecond clafs I place the foreign minifters. 
 The judges are the links of our connections with one 
 another ; the foreii^n minifters are the links of our 
 connexion with other nations. They arc not upon 
 the fpot to demand payment, and are therefore 
 the moft likely to be, as in faft they have fometimes 
 been, entirely negkded, to the great difgrace, and 
 perhaps the great detriment of the nation. 
 
 In the third clafs I would bring all the tradefmen 
 who fupply the crown by contract, or otherwife. 
 
 In the fourth clafs I place all the domeftic fer- 
 vants of the king, and all perfons in eflicicnt oflices, 
 whofe falaries do not exceed two hundred pounds 
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 In the fifth, upon account of honour, which ought 
 to givo place to nothing but charity and rigid juftice, 
 I would place the pcnfions a.id allowances of his ma- 
 jefty's royal family, comprehending of courfe the 
 queen, together with the ftatcd allowance of the privy 
 purfe. 
 
 In the fixth clafs, I place thefs tfficlcnt offices of 
 dity, whofe falaries may exceed the fum of two hun- 
 dred pounds a year. 
 
 In the fcvcnth clafs, that mixed mafs the whole 
 pcnfion lift. 
 
 ' In the eighth, the ofHccs of honour about the 
 king. 
 
 In the ninth, and the laft of all, the fahiries and 
 penfions of the firft lord of the treafury himfelf, the 
 chancellor of the cxchetjuer, and the other commif- 
 fioncrs of the treafury. 
 
 If by any poflible mifmanagement of that part of 
 the revenue which is left at difcretion, or by any other 
 mode of prodigality, cafh fliould be deficient for the 
 payment of the loweft clafics, I propofe, that the 
 amount of thofe falaries where the deficiency may hap- 
 pen to fall, fhall not be carried as debt to the account 
 of the fucceeding year, but that it fhall be entirely 
 Japfed, fui;k, and loft; fo that government will be 
 enabled to ftart in the race of every new year, wholly 
 unloaded, frefti in wind and in vigour. Hereafter, no 
 civil lift debt can ever conic upon the public. And 
 thofe who do not confider this as faving, becaufc it is 
 not a certain fum, do not ground their calculations of 
 the future on their experience of the paft. 
 
 I know of no mode of prcferving the effl-ctual execu- 
 tion of any duty, but to make it the direct intcreft of 
 the executive officer that it fhall be faithfully per- 
 formed. Affumin^, then, th it the prcfcnt vaft allow- 
 ance to the civil lift is perfectly adequate to all its pur- 
 pofcs, if there fliould be any failure, it mufl be from 
 the mifmanagement or neglect of the firft commiffioner 
 of the treafury ; fincc, upon the propofed plan, there 
 can be no expcnce of r.iiy confoqucncc, which he Is 
 not himftlf prcvioufly to authorize and finally to con- 
 trol. It is therefore juft, as well as politic, that the 
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 If the failure from the delinquency fliould be 
 very confiderable, it will fall on the clafs directly 
 above the firft lord of the trcafury, as well as upon 
 himfelf and his board. It will fall, as it ought to 
 fall, upon offices of no primary importance in the 
 Hate ; but then it will fall upon perfons, whom it 
 will be a matter of no flight importance for a mi- 
 nifter to provoke — it will fall upon perfons of the 
 firft rank and confequence in the kingdom ; upon 
 thofe who arc neaicft to the king, and frequent* 
 ly have a more interior credit with him than the mi- 
 nifter himfelf. It will fall upon matters of the horfe, 
 upon lord chamberlains, upon lord ftewards, upon 
 grooms of the dole, and lords of the bedchamber. 
 The houfchold troops form an army, who will be ready 
 to mutiny for want of pay, and whofe mutiny will be. 
 rea/iy dreadful to a commander in chief. A rebellion 
 of the thirteen lords of the bedchamber would be far* 
 more terrible to a minifter, and would probably zffe&. 
 his power more to the quick, than a revolt of thirteen 
 colonies. What an uproar fuch an event would create 
 at court ! What petitions., and cortifnitteeSy and ajfocla- 
 tions would it not produce ! Blcfs me ! what a clatter- 
 ing of white flicks and yellow flicks would be about 
 his head — what a ftorm of gold keys would fly about the 
 ears of the minifter — what a fhowcr of Gtorges, and 
 Thirties, and medals, and collars of S. S. would 
 aflail him at his firft entrance into the ajitichamber, 
 after an infolvcnt Chrifl:mas quacter. A tumult which 
 could not be appcafcd by all the hannooy of- the new- 
 year's ode. Rebellion it is certain there would be; and 
 rebellion may not now indeed be fo critical an event to 
 thofe who engage in it, fince its price is fo corredly 
 afcertained at juft a thoufand pound. 
 
 Sir, this clafling, in my opinion, is a ferious and 
 folid fecurity for the performance of a minifter's duty. 
 Lord Coke fays, that the ftaff was put into the trea- 
 furer's hand, to enable him to fupport himfelf when 
 there was no money in the exchequer, and to beat away 
 importunate folicitors. The method, which I propofc, 
 would hinder him from the neceflity of fuch a broken 
 ftafFto lean on, or fuch a miferable weapon for rcpulf- 
 ing the demands of worthlefs fuitors, who, the noble 
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 Wows on the h^ad, and many other Indignities, before 
 they are driven from the treafury. In this plan, he is 
 furnifhed with an anfwer to all their importunity ; an 
 anfwer far more concli<five, than if he had knocked 
 them down with his ftaff— " Sir, (or my Lord), you 
 are calling for my own falary— Sir, you are calling 
 for the appointments of my colleagues who fit about 
 me in office— Sir, you are going to excite a mutiny 
 at court againft me- you are going to eftrange his 
 majedy's confidence from me, through the chamber- 
 lain, or the mafier of the horfe, or the groom of 
 «« the Itole." 
 
 As things now ftand, every man, in proportion to 
 his confequence at court, tends to add to the expences 
 of the civil lift, by all manner of jobs, if not for him- 
 felf, yet for his dependents. When the new plan is 
 eftabliflied, thofe who are now fuitors for jobs, will 
 become the moft ftrenuous oppofers of them. They 
 will have a common intcrcft with the minifter in public 
 ccconomy. Every clafs, as it ftands low, will become 
 fecurity for the payment of the preceding clafs ; and 
 thus the perfons, whofe infignificant fervices defraud 
 thofe that are ufcful, would then become intercfted in 
 their payment. Then the powerful, inftead of oppreff- 
 ing, would be obliged to fupport th^ weak } and idlc- 
 nefs would become concerned in the reward of induftry. 
 The whole fabric of the civil oeconomy would become 
 compact and conncdcd in all its parts ; it would be 
 formed into a well-organized body, where every mem- 
 ber coniributes to the fupport of the whole ; and where 
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 This plan, I really flatter mvfclf, is laid, not in of- 
 ficial formality, nor in airy fpcculation, but in real 
 life, and in human nature, in what " comes home 
 (as Bacon fays) to the bufinefs and bofoms of men.'* 
 You have now. Sir, before you, the whole of my 
 fchemc, as far as I have digefted it into a form, that 
 might be in any rcfpeft worthy of your confideration. 
 —I intend to lay it before you in five bills *. The 
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 upon a few plain principles. It is a plan which take* 
 nothing from the civil lift without difcharging it of a 
 burthen equal to the fum carried to the public fervice. 
 It weakens no one function neceflary to government ; 
 but on the contrary, by appropriating fupply to fer- 
 vice, it gives it greater vigour. It provides the means 
 of order and forefight to a minifter of finance, which 
 may always keep all the objed^s of his oflke, and their 
 ftate, condition, and relations, diftindtly before him. 
 It brings forward accounts without hurrying and dif- 
 treffing the accountants : whillt it provides for public 
 convenience, it regards private rights. It extingiiilhcs 
 fecret corruption almoft to the polTibility of its exift- 
 ence. It deftroys direcft an.d vifible influence equal to 
 the offices of at leaft fifty members of parliament. 
 Laftly, it prevents the provifion for his Majcfty's chil- 
 dren, from being diverted to the political purpofes of 
 his minifter. 
 
 Thefe are the points, on which I rely for the merit 
 of the plan : I purfue ceconomy in a fecondary view, 
 and only as it is connedted with thefe great objects. I 
 am perfuaded, that even for fupply, this fcheme will 
 be far from unfruitful, if it be executed to the extent I 
 propofe it. I think it will give to the public, at its 
 periods, two or three hundred thoufand pounds a year ; 
 if not, it will give them a fyftem of ceconomy, which 
 is itfelf a great revenue. It gives me no little pride 
 and fatisfadtion, to find that the principles of my pro- 
 ceedings are, in many rcfpedts, the very fame with 
 thofe which are now purfued in the plans of the French 
 rainifler of finance. I am fure, that I lay before you 
 a fcheme eafy and pradlicable in all its parts. I know 
 it is common at once to applaud and to reje£l all at- 
 tempts of this nature. I know it is common for men 
 to fay, that fuch and fuch things are perfectly right- 
 very defirable; but that, unfortunately, they are not 
 practicable. Oh ! no. Sir, no. Thole things which 
 are not pra«5ticable, are not defirable. There is no- 
 thing in the world really beneficial, that does not lie 
 within the reach of an informed underftanding, and a 
 well-diredled purfuit. There is nothing that God has 
 judged good for us, that he has not given us the means 
 to accomplifh, both in xh--- natural and the moral world. 
 
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 ^Ve muft follow the nature of our affairs, and con- 
 form ourfelves to our fituation. If we do, our obie<a$ 
 are plain and compaflable. Why fhould we refolve to 
 do nothing, becaufe what I propofe to you may not be 
 the cxad demand of the petition $ when we are far from 
 refolved to comply even with what evidently is fo' 
 Does this fort of chicanery become us ? The people ari 
 the mafters. They have only to exprefs their wants at 
 Jffg/ f "'l »" g'-o^s. We are the expert artifts ; we are the 
 Ikilful workmen, toihape their defircs into perfeaform 
 and to fit the utenfil to the ufe. They are the fuffcrers! 
 they tell the fymptoms of the complaint; but we know 
 the exadk feat of the difeafe, and how to apply the re- 
 medy, according to the rules of art. How fhocking 
 would It be to fee us pervert our (kill, into a fuuAu 
 and fervile dexterity, for the purpofe of evading our 
 dutv, and defrauding our employers, who are our natu- 
 ral lords, of the objea of their juft expeaations. I 
 think the whole not only prafticable, but prafticable in 
 a very Ihort time. If we are in earneft about it, and if 
 we exert that induftry, and thofe talents in forwarding 
 the work, which I am afraid may be exerted in impeding 
 It.— I engage, that the whole may be put in complete 
 execution within a year. For my own part, I have very 
 little to recommend me for this or for any tafk, but a 
 kind of earneft and anxipus perfeverance of mind 
 which, with all its good and all its evil cffeds, is 
 moulded into my conftitution. I faithfully engage to 
 the houfe, if they choofe to appoint me to any part in 
 the execution of this work, which (when they have 
 made it theirs by the improvements of their wifdom. 
 will be worthy of the able affiftance they may give me) 
 that by night and by day, in town, or in country, at 
 the deflc, or in the foreft, I will, without regard to 
 convenience, eafe, or pleafure, devote myfelf to their 
 fervice, not expeding or admitting any reward whatfo- 
 ever. I owe to this country my labour, which is my 
 all i and I owe to it ten times more induftry, if ten 
 times more I could exert. After all I fhall be an unpro- 
 ntable fervant. 
 
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 At the fame time, if I am able, and if I (hall be per- 
 mitted, I will lend an humble helping hand to any other 
 good work, which is going on. I have not. Sir, the 
 frantic prefumption to fuppofe, that this plan contains 
 in it the whole of what the public has a right to expeft, 
 in the great work of reformation they call for. Indeed, 
 it falls infinitely fliort of it. It fallsfhort, even of my own 
 ideas. I have fome thoughts not yet fully ripened, relative 
 to a reform in the cuftoms and excife, as well as in fome 
 other branches of financial adminiftration. There ,« 
 other things too, which form eflential parts in a great 
 plan for the purpofe of leftoring the independence of par- 
 liament. The contra<5lors bill of laft year it is fit to re- 
 vive ; and I rejoice that it is in better hands than mine. 
 The bill for fufpending the votes of cuftomhoufe officers, 
 brought into parliament feveral years ago, by one of our 
 worthieft and wifeft members,* (would to God we 
 could along with the plan revive the pcrfon whodefigned 
 it.) But a man of very real integrity, honour, and abi- 
 lity will be found to take his place, and to carry his idea 
 into full execution. You all fee how neceffary it is to 
 review our military cxpences for fome years paft, and, 
 if poflibic, to bind up and clofc that bleeding artery of 
 profufion : but that buHnefs alfo, I have reafon to hope, 
 will be undertaken by abilities that are fully adequate 
 to it. Something mult be devifed (if poflible) to check 
 the ruinous expence of eledlions. 
 
 Sir, all or moll of thefe things muft be done. Every 
 one muft take his part. 
 
 If we fhould be able by dexterity or power, or in- 
 trigue, to difnppoint the expectations of our conftitu- 
 cnts, what will it avail us ? we fhall never be ftrong or 
 crtful enough to parry, or to put bv the irrefiftible de- 
 mands of our fituation. That fituation calls upon us, 
 and upon our conilituenr., too, with a voice which zviU 
 be heard. I am fure no man is more zcalouf.y attached 
 than I am to the privileges of this houfe, particularly 
 in regard to the exclufivc management of money. The 
 lords have no right to the difpofition, in any fenle, of the 
 public purfe; but they have gone further in f felf-denial 
 
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 than our utmoft jealoufy could have required. A 
 • power of examining accounts, to CLiifure, correft, 
 and punifti, we never, that I know of, have thought 
 ot denying to the Houfe of Lords. It is fomething 
 more than a century fince we voted that body ufelefs : 
 they have now voted themfelves fo. The whole hope 
 of reformation is at length caft upon us ; and let us 
 not deceive the nation, which does us the honour to hope 
 every thing from our virtue. If a/i the nation are not 
 equally forward to prefs this duty upon us, yet be af- 
 . lured, that they all equally exped we fhould perform 
 it. The refpeaful filencc of thofe who wait upon 
 your pleafure, ought to be as powerful with yoiu as 
 the call of thofc who require your fervice as their n-ht. 
 Some, without doors, afiect to feel hurt for your djtrl 
 nity, becaufe they fuppofc, that menaces are held out 
 to you. Jiiftify their good opinion, by fhewing that 
 no menaces are neceflary to ftimulatc you to your duty. 
 — But, Sir, whilft we may fympathize with them, in 
 one point, who fympathize with us in another, we 
 ought to attend no lefs to thofe who approach us lilce 
 men, and who, in the guife of petitioners, fpcak to us 
 in the tone of a concealed authority. It is not wife to 
 force them to fpeak out more plainly, what they plainly 
 mean. — But, the petitioners arc violent. Be it fo. 
 Thofe who arc leall: anxious about your conduit, are 
 not thofe that love you molt. Moderate aftedtion and 
 fatiatcd enjoyment, are cold and rcfpcdful ; but an ar- 
 dent and injured paflion, is tempered up with wrath, 
 and grief, and (haine, and confcious worth, and the 
 maddening iciiie of violated right. A jealous love lights 
 his torch from the firebrands of the furies. — They who 
 call upon y(;u to belong whd'y to the people, are thofc 
 who wifh you to return to your prcptr home ; to the 
 fphere of your duty, to the pott of your honour, to tlie 
 nianiion-houfe of all genuine, fcrciie, and fdid fatis- 
 faction. We have furnilhcJto the people of Ein^land 
 (indeed we have) fome real caufe of jcalouly. Let us 
 leave that fort of company which, if it docs iiot deliroy 
 our innocence, pollutes our honour : let us free our- 
 fclvesat once from every thing that can iucrcafe thcir 
 fufplcions, and inflame thiir juf} rclliiln.jnt : let us 
 calt away from us, with a generous fcorn, all the iuv;-- 
 tokcns and fymbols that v/c ha\e been vain and li'^ht 
 Ciiougli to accept j— all the brac'.-'.ct.s atid fiuirt-boxvs. 
 
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 tnd miniature pi£lures, and hair-dcvicc?, and all the 
 other adulterous trinkets that are the pledges of our 
 alienation, and the monuments of our fhamr. Let us 
 return to our legitimate home, and all jars and all quar- 
 rels will be loft in embraces. Let the commons in par- 
 liament afTembled, be one and the fame thing with the 
 commons at large. The diftinftions that are made to 
 feparate us, are unnatural and wicked contrivances. 
 Let us identify, let us incorporate ourfelves with the 
 people. Let us cut all the cables and fnap the chains 
 which tie us to an unfaithful (hore, and enter the friend- 
 ly harbour, that fhoots far out into the main its moles 
 
 and jettecs to receive us. '* War with the world, 
 
 and peace with our conftituents." Be this our motto, 
 and our principle. Then indeed, we (hail be truly 
 great. Refpefting ourfelves, we fliall be refpefted by 
 the world. At prefent all is troubled and cloudy, and 
 dtflradled, and full of anger and turbulence, both abroad 
 and at home j but the air may be cleared by this ftorm, 
 and light and fertility may follow it. Let us givo a 
 faithful pledge to the people, that we honour, indeed, 
 the crown ; but that we belong to them ; that we arc 
 their auxiliaries, and not their taflc-mafters ; the fel- 
 low-labourers in the fame vineyard, not lording over 
 their rights, but helpers of their joy : that to tax them 
 is a grievance to ourfelves, but to cut off from our en- 
 joyments to forward theirs, is the higheft gratification 
 we are capable of receiving. I feel with comfort, that 
 we are all warmed with thefe fentiments, and while we 
 are thus warm, I wifti we may go dire<^ly and with a 
 chcarful heart to this falutary work. 
 
 *' Sir, I move for leave to bring in a Billy ** For 
 " the better regulation of his Majejlf i civil ejia^ 
 ** hliJhmentSy and of certain public offices ; for the 
 " limitation ofpenjions, and the fupprejjion of fun- 
 ** dry ufelefSf expenfive, and inconvenient places ; 
 •' and for applying the monies faved thereby to the 
 • *' public fervice. *" 
 
 Lord North ftated, that there was a difference 
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 between this bill for regulating the efbbliihmeats, and 
 fome of the others, as they a&ded the ancient patri- 
 mony of the crown ; and therefore wifhed them to be 
 poftponed, till the King's confent could be obtained. 
 This diftin£tion was ftrongly controverted ; but when 
 it was infifled on as a point of decorum enfy^ it was 
 agreed to poftpone them to another day. Accordingly, 
 en the Monday following, viz. Feb. 14, leave was 
 given, on the motion of Mr. Burke, without oppoli* 
 tion, to bring in 
 
 1 ft, " J bill for thefak of thtforeji and ether crovm 
 lands, rents, and hereditaments, with certain txcep' 
 tions ; and for applying the produce thereof to the 
 public ftrvice ;' and for fecuring, afcertaining, and 
 fatisfying, tenant-rights, and common and other 
 rights." 
 
 2d. ** A bill for the more perfeSlly uniting to the crown 
 the principality of JFales, and the county palatine of 
 Chcjhr, and for the more commodious adminijlration of 
 jtijiice within the fame ; as alfo, for abolijhing certain 
 offices now appertaining thereto ; for quieting dormant 
 claims, afcertaining and fecuring tenant-rights } and 
 for the fale of all fareji lands, and other lands, tent- 
 ments, and hereditaments, held by his Alajejly in right 
 of the faid principality, or county palatine of Chejier^ 
 and for applying the produce thereof to the public 
 fervice." 
 
 3//, *' y^ bill for uniting to the crown the duchy and 
 county palatine of Lancajier \ for the fuppreffton of un^ 
 neceJJ'ary offices now belonging thereto ; for the afcer- 
 tainment and fecurity of tenant and other rights; 
 and for the fale of all rents, lands, tenements, and here^ 
 ditaments, andforejls, within the faid duchy and county 
 palatine, or either of them ; and for applying the pro- 
 
 •* duce thereof to the public fervice." And it was 
 
 trdered that Mr. Burke, Mr. Fox, Lord John Caven- 
 dilh. Sir George Savile, Colonel Barre, Mr. Thomas 
 Townlhend, Mr. Byng, Mr. Dunning, Sir Jofeph 
 Mawbev, Mr. Recorder of London, Sir Robert Clay- 
 ton, Mr. Frederick Montagu, the Earl of Upper 
 Oflbry, Sir William Guife, and Mr. Gilbert, do prt- 
 pare and bring in the fame. 
 
 At the fame time, Mr. Burke moved for leave to 
 
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 •* cejfary offces now belonging thereto \ for the afcertain- 
 •* mcnt and fecurity of tenant and other rights ; and 
 *' for the fale of certain rents^ lands y and tenement s^ 
 ,*' within or belonging to the f aid duchy ; and for apply- 
 :** ing the produce thereof to the public fervice." 
 
 But fome objcclions being made by the furveyor ge- 
 neral of the duchv concerning the rights of the Prince 
 of Wales, now in his minority, and Lord North re- 
 maining pcrfc«ftly filcnt, Mr. Burke, at length, though 
 he ftrongiy contended againfl: the principle of the ob- 
 jedtionj confented to withdraw this laft motion for the 
 •prefent, to be renewed upon an early occafion. 
 
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