THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY, | Princeton, N. J. ^ CasCf She1f\ Bookf Divisioi Sectjjn A .^.^o^^^z.^ 'e^^>*(?e«^^'&-4>' sec A VINDICATION O F Christs Divinity: BEING A DEFENSE OF SOME QUERIES, RELATING TO Dr. CLARKE'S Scheme of the H.Trinity? I N A NswER T O A CLERGYMAN in the COUNTRY. By T)ANIEL WATERLARTt, D.D. Master of Magdalen- College , in Cambridge, and Chaplain in Ordinary to His MAjESTT. C A M B R I T> G E: Printed for Corn. Cr ownf i p. ld, Printer to the Vmverfiji : And are to be Sold by Jaivies Knapton, and Robert Knaplock, Bookfcllers in Sx, Paul's Church- Yard, LONDON. MDCCXfX. om ni uoy tW^i %^^ bsinqsi • ^ . *c -^ I \m h THE PREFACE. THE follo'wing Queries were drawn ///, a few Tears ago, at the Requeft of Friends % when I had not the leaf a^prehenfion of their ever appearing in Trint, as might be guefs'd jrom the negligence of the Style andCompofition, TheOccafion ofthcr/i was this, yl Clergyman in the Country, well efeeni din the Neighbour- hood where He lived, had unhappily fallen in with T)r. Clarke's Notions of the Trinity ; and began to efpoufe them in a more open and unguarded manner than the "Doctor Himfelf had done. This gave fome uneafinefs to the Clergy in thofe 'Parts, who could not but be deeply concerned to find a findamental Article ef Religion called in ^leftion ; and that too by one of their own Order, and whom They had a true Concern and Value for. It was prefumed, that a fincere and ingenuous Man A ^' {as The P R^&B^A C Er {jis He appeared to be) might, upon proper Application, be inclinable to alter his Opt- iiion : And that the mofl probable 'way to bring Him to a Senfe of his mijiake, was to pnt Him to defend it, fo long till He might perhaps fee reafon to believe that it was not defenfible. With the fe Thoughts, I was pre- 'vailed upon to draw up a few Queries ( the fame that appear now, excepting only fome fight verbal Alterations ) and when I had done^ gave them to a common Friend to cone's vey to Him. I was the more inclined to it, for my own Inftnivfion and Improvement, in fo momcTitous and important an Article : Be- fides, that I had long been of Opinion, that 110 method could be more proper for th^ train^X big tip one's Mind to a true and found Judg^A. inent of Things, than that of private Con^\ ference in Writing ; exchanging "Tapers \A making Anfwers, Replies., and Rejoindersf"^ till an Argument fhould be exhatifted on both \ Sides, and a Controverfy at length brought to a Toint. In that private way {if it can ■ he private) a Man wYttes with Eafinefs and Freedom \ is in no pain^ about any innocent Slips or Mijfaker\ is under little or no Temp- " tation to perfift obfinately in an Error {the Bane of all publick Controverfy) but con- cerned only to find out the Truth, which (on<^ what Side fo ever it appears) is always Vid:ory - to evsKy, hanejr. M'm^.. ■ ^-■ I had the t> R E r A C glT i had not long gone on mith my Corrcfpon'^ dent, before I found all my Meafures broken) and my Hopes intirely frujt rated. He badw fent Me, in Manulcripc, an Anivver to w^^ Queries ; "which Anf-juer 1 received and read with ^e Care ; promised Him immediately a Reply ;. and foon after prepared and Jinifii'di^ it, a}id convey' d it fizfe to his Hands Then it mds, and not till then, that He di [covered ta -Me what He had been doing % fignifyingi'\ by Letter^ how He had been over per J waded to .commit his Anivver, with my Qijerics, to the Trefs \ that They had been there Jome time, and could not now be recalled \ that I muft follow Him thither, if I intended any thing farther \ and mnfi adapt my pubiickDe- fenle to his publick Anlwer, now altered and improved, from what it had been in the Mannfcrip'- which had been fent me. Tbi^ News fnrpri^ed Me a little at the frfl-, and' forry I was to find 7ny Correfpondent fo ex-- tremely defirous of infrrt*Ming Others, infiead of taking' the.moji prudent and coiifiderate Me- thod of iitforming Hi^nfclf. As He had left Me no Choice, but either to fallow Him to the Trefs, or to defift, I chofe what I thought mojl proper at that Time ; learuing Him to iftfirii^ the Publick as He pleafed, defigning niy Self^ hv keep out t?;^ Publick Controverfy; or, a^' leaji^ not defigning the ContraryK But, af length, confidering that Copies of, my Defenll* were got abroad into fever al Hands ^ and A 1 . mi^ht The r R E F A C E. might perhaps, fome time er other, Jleal into the Trefs without my Knowledge ; and con* fidering farther that this Controverjy now began to grow IVarm, and that it became every honeft Man, according to the Meafure of his Abilities, to bear his Teftimony in fo good a Caufe ; / thought it beft to revife my Tapers, to give them my laft Hand, and to fen d7 hem abroad into the W or Id \ whereThey miifi Jiand or fall {as I defire They Jhould^ according as They are found to have more or lefs Truth or Weight in Them, 'Dr. Clarke has lately piblijh'd a Second Edition of his Scripture-Dod:rine : Where, I perceive. He has made fever al Additions and Alterations , but has neither retrad:ecl, nor defended thofe Tarts, which Mr, NelfonV learned Friend had judicioufy replied to,, in his True Scripture-Dod:rine continu d. / hope^ m partial Readers will take care to read One along with;- the Qibef>, ,'.■ ■-. '■■■'■■ ■ K^S^^. ' One thing I mufl obferve, far the ^oflor's Honour, that in his new Edition He has lefi out thefe Words of his former Introdudioii; '' 'lis plain that every Terfon may reafon- *' ably agree to f^chVovms, whenever He can *' in any Senfe at all reconcile them with '* Script lire, I hope^ none hereafter will pre^ tend to make ufe of the Doctor's Aurlioriry, for i'ltbfcribing to Forms which They believe not The P R E F A e E. „ 710 f according to the true and ^xo^^t Serife of the IVords, and the known intent of the Im* poftrs, /^;/«j/ Compilers. Such Prevarication ii m it felf a bad Thing, and '-j:jotild, in Time^ have a very til Influence on the Morals of a Nation. If either State- Oaths on one Hand^ Gr Church Subfcriptions on the Other , once come to be wade light of-., and Subtilties be invented to defend or palliate fuch grofs In- (locerity ; we may bid farewell to Principles, and Reh'gion will be little elfe but difgnis'd Atheifm. The learned T>o£ior, in his Introduction^ has inferted, by way of Note, a long flota- tion out of Mr. NelfonV Life of Bifoop Bull. He can hardly be frefumed to intend any Parallel between Bijhop Buirj* Cafe and his own : And yet Readers may be apt fo to take it, fince the "Do^or has not guarded againfl it, and fine e otherwife it will not be eafy to make out the pertinence of it. The T^o^or has undoubtedly fome meaning in it^ thd* I will not pre fume to guefs what. He * obfervesy ** That there is an exact account *' given, what Method that learned IVriter '' (Bilhop Bull) took to explain the TioEtrine ** ^/Juflincation {viz. the very fame ^7;^ only ** Method which ought to be taken in explain- '* ing all other Doctrines whatfoever) how tV'nofhuA ^'"' A3 '* ^ea- The P R^E>F A G £. ^'%ealottJly He was accttfed by many Syftema- *^^tical IJtvlnes, as departing from the- T>0' ^^ Brine and Articles of the Church, in what ^'^'''-He had done\ how learnedly and effedually ** He defended Himfeif againft all his Adver- ^* farics; and how fiicGefsful at length his Ex* *' plication was, it being after fome Tears '* almoji univerfally received. This account is true, but defe&ive ; and may want a Sup- flement for the Benefit of common Readers , who 7ndy wijh to know, what that excellent Method of Bijhop Bui IV was, by means of which his Explication proved fo liiccelsfuli mid came at length to be almoji univerfally received. It was as follows. ^ , ^^^^v 1. In the firfi flace, his way was to ex- amine carefully into Scr\^txxxQ, more than into the Nature and Rcafon of the Thing abfiraEi- edly confidef'd. He pitched upon fach Texts as were perrinenr, and dole to the Toint\ did not chtife Them according to the Sound' only, but their real Senfe-^ which He ex- plain' d]\}!My ^s/^^narurally, without any wrcft^ ing or draining. He neither negled;ed ;^^r M^ Jembled the utnioji force of any Texts which feem'd to make agatnft Hifn, but prop o fed them fairly, and anfwer d them folidly ; withoui- any artificial Elufions , or any {^lAo. or fur-» prizing Glojfes. %. In The PREFACE. , 2.',^ J/;- the next place, however' cogent and forcible his re afonhigs from Scripture appear- ed to h, yet He raodellly declined being con- fident of them ^ nnlefs He could find them like- wife fupported by the general Verdict of the primitive Church; for which He always ex- prefs'd a moft religious Regard and Venera* tion : believing it eafier for Himfelf to err in interpreting Scripture^ than for the univer- fal Church to have erred from the Beginning, To pafs by many other Inftances of his fincere and great Regard to Antiquity, / /ball here 7nention one only. He * tells T)r. Tully, /// the moft ferious and foleran manner imagin- able , that if there could but be found any one Tropofition, that He had maintained in all his Harmony, repugnant to the 'Do^rine of the Carholick and Primitive Church, He would immediately give up the Caufe , fit down contentedly under the reproach of a No- velift, openly retradt Ins Error or Hcrefy , make a folemn Recantation in- the Face of the Chrifiian IForld, and bind Himfelf to per- petual filence ever after. He knew very well what He faid ; being able to Jhow, by an Hiftorical'DeduBioii. that Ins iJo^frine had been ttoe con ft ant T>oEtrine of the Church of Chrift, ] down to the T>ays ^/Calvin, in the S^ixteeuj- Century. * Bu'l. Apolog. Conrr. Tull. p. 7. t Ball. Apol. Contr, Tul!. p. _fo, ji. A 4 3- ^^^ The P R^f A e E. .:x^$.-'' 'B^jidcs this. He demonftrated , very Qlearly^ that the mofi antient and vahiable ContciTions of the Reformed Churches Abroad "ivere intirely in his Sentiments. He examin^d them zvith great Care and Exacinefs , and anf-juer'd the contrary Tretences largely an^ folidly, \ %. To compleat All, He vindicated his T>&- Urine farther, from the concurring Stntiments of our- O'-Ji'n moji early, and mofi judicions .Reformers: As alfo fran //j^' Articles, Cate- chifm, Liturgy, and Homilies of the Church of England : And this with great accuracy 4ind firength of Reajon, without the mean Arts <5/^ Equivocation or Sophiftry. s^ 5*. I may add, fifthly y- that his 7nanner of Writiihg was the mofi convincing, and mofi ingv^^nvy^ imaginable : Acute, ftrong, ^;//^ ner- vous; learned throughout \ and fincere to a fcru^uloMs Exafhiejs , without artificial Co- lours or fiudied Diiguifes, which He utterly: abhorr'd. The good and great Man breaths in every Line : A Reader, after a few T ages ^ may be tempted almofi to throw off' his Guards and to rejign Him/elf implicitely into fo fafe Hands. A Man thus qualified and accom-^ fliJJfd, having true [judgment to take th^ right Side of a^iefiion ; /?;/^ Learning, Ability, and Inicgrity to Jet it off to the great efi Ad- vantage, could not fail of Succejs\ efpecially confider- The PREFACE. confiderhtg that the moft judicious and learn* ed of our Clergy, and Thoje befi affeEted to the Church of England (^Jtich as T)r, Ham- mond, ^c.) had been in the fame Sentiments before-, and Bijl?op Buirj* bitterefl Adver- fdries were moftly Syftemacical Men (^pro- perly fo called ) and ftich as had been bred up {during the great Rebellion) /;/ the Pre- deftinarian and Antinomian Tenets , as Mr, * Nelion obferves. There was another Cir- cmnftance which Mr. Nelfbn alfo takes f 710* tice of\ namely, his writing in Latin : JVhich Jhowed his thorough Judgment of Men and Things, He wotild not write to the Vulgar and Unlearned {which is beginning at the wrong end,, and doing nothing ) but to the Learned and Judicious ; knowing it to be the jurcjt and the Jhorteft way ; and that, if the Toint be gained with Them, the reft come in ofCourfe\ if not, all is to no purpofe. This became a Man, who had a Caufe that He could trufl: to ; and confided only in the (Irength of his Realbns. By fuch laudable and ingenu- ous Methods, that excellent Man prevailed over his Adverlaries ; Truth over Error, Anti- quity over Novelty, the Church of Chrift over Calvin and his T>ifciples. If any Man elfe has fuch a Caulc to defend as Bijhop Bull had, and is able to manage it in fuch a Method, by Jhowiug that it ftands upon the * Nchon'j Life of Bull, pag. 9S. ^ NelibxiV Ltfe of Bull, fag. 94. vvn fa?ne rK^ ^PIR3E^^ A G E. fame ifnmoveable Fottndations pe6i Miracles. It mtift not be forgot, that the fa?ne good and great Prelate, afterwards, by the fame fair and honaurable Methods, the fame Jlrength of Reafon and -profound Learning , gain'd as co?npleat a Vtciory over the Arians, /// regard to the §luejiion about the Faith of the Ante- Nicene Fathers: And his Determination, in that particular, was, and fill is, among Men of the great eft Learning and Judgr/ient, as uni-. ycx^Wj fubmitted to as the otl^er. His adk mirable Treat ife {by which He being dead yec ipeaketh ) re??iains unanfwer'd to this T>ay ; and will abide Vidiorious to the End; But enough of this.'- '- 1 w ;lioV7 ^-^.x ^\\ / am obliged to fay fomething in T^efence of my general Title. (A Vindication of Chrid's Divinity) becaufe, I fmi, Mr, VottQx, Jince de^ ceas'd, was rebuked' by an *" Anonymous- Hand for fuch a T\t\Q.yTbe'preten(^ ir^^\tidat ouV'.^ Adver- The P R E F A CE. \Adverf(ir'tes do not difown ChriJi^^Ty\\\r\\xy, rts the Title mfinuates But to ^-juhat furpoje is it for Them to contend about a Name, when They give up the Thing. It looks too like Mockery {though They are far from in- tending it) and cannot but remind its of Hail King of the Jews. No body ever fpeaks of the Divinity of Mofes, or of Magiftrates, or of Angels, though called Gods /// Scripture, If Chrifi he God, /;/ the relative Senfe only^ why fhould we fpeak of His Divinity, more than of the Other? The Chrifi ian Church has all aloftg ufed the word Divinity, in the firi6f and proper Senfe : If we mufi change the Idea, let us change the Name too-, and talk no more of Chriffs Divinity, but of his Mediatorlliip only, or at mofl, Kingihip. This will be the way to prevent Equivocation , keep up pro- priety of Language , and fhut out falfe Ideas / know 710 Divinity, but fuch as I have de- fended: The other, falfty fo called, is real!)'' non.e'> Sa much for the XuIq, In the Work it felf I have endeavor' d to- unravel Sophiflry, deteU Fallacies, and take ^^Difguifes, in order to fet the Controverfy upon a clear Foot; allowing only for the Myflerioiifners of the Subje^. The Gentle- men of the New way have hitherto kept pretty much in generals, and avoided comin^r to the pinch of the ^tefion. If they pleaje to, fpeak to the Toint, and put the Caufe up- on The PREFACE. $U 0 Jhort Ijftte, as may eafily be donCy that is ^U that is dejir'd. I doubt not but all Attempts of that kind will end {as they have fv^ done) in the clearing np of the Truth, th^ T> I fafp ointment of its Oppofers, the Joy ^f good Men, a7td the Honour of our Blejfed t^rd; whofe Divinity has been the Rock of Offence to the Difputers of this World, now fyr 1 600 Tears ; always attack! d by fome or- i^tk^r, in every Age, and always Triumph ant. To Him, with the Father, and the HolyGhofl, Three Perfbns of the fame divine Power, Sub- ftance, and Perfections, be ail Honour and Glory, in all Churches of the Saints* /m^^ siQd far evermore. boO tru i T W^ .'BTi a o A THE iitft^ CONTENTS. Compare the following T e x r.s* I am the Lord, and there is none elie .; There is ro God betides me> Ifa. 45- 5- Is there a God befides me ? Yea , there is no God, I know not ^ny^ Ifa, 44. 8. I am God and there is none like me ; Before me there was no God form*d, neither fhall there be after me, Ifa. 4^. 9. The Word Va's Godi Job, I. I. ^ Thy Throne, O God* Hcb, I. 8 Chrift came, who is 0« ver all God bleffed for twx% Rom. 9. 5. Who being in the Form of God Phil. 1. 6. Who being the Bright^ nefs of his Glory, and tht exprefs Image of his Per* fon. HeL I. 3» CLU E R Y L Whether ali other Beings, hjldes the one Supreme Oddi be not excluded by the Texts of Ifaiah (to which mm^ more might he added') and confequentlj 5- :\:" •:4.i ■A^ *.Qt\«t!>^ dec, Rom, 9, ^^^^' Q U E R Y VI. TVhether the fame Characieriftkks ^ efpecially fuch emitient one Si can reafinably be Hnderftood of two ciftmcl Being h and of one Infinite and Independent, the other DependcK^ and Finite^, p. 89. . . Q_U E R Y VIL IVheiher the Fathers Omnifcience ^»^ Eternity are ftiftOffe and the fame with the Sons being alike defer ib*ai' and in the fame phrafts^. p. loo. QUERY VIIL JThether Etcrnky does not imply neceffary Exlflence of the Son ; which is inccnffent with the Dolors Scheme ? ^nd whether the ^ Do^ior lsa{h^-^oi made 4« elufivei f.Reply. p. iii^i; r^ .. i | He }o ivikM •:iih -:■.. %il» cquivo- The CONTENTS. equivocating Anfiver to the Ohje^ion^ fince the Son may 'he a ricceflary Emanation from the Father, by the Will ^nd Power of the Father^ ivithom any Co^tradi^, ^ion'^. Will is one things and Arbitrary Will another.^ p. III. QUERY IX. Whether the divine u4ttyii?utes y Oinnifcience, Ubiquity, &c. thoje tHiiividual uittributes can be commnmcatcd without the divine EJfencey from which they are infepa^ rabk ? p. xj6^> QUERY X. Whether-, if they (the Attributes belonging to the Son J be not individually the fame, they can be any thing more than faint RefembUnces of themy differing from them as I'inite from Infinite; and then in what Sc^jcy or with 7vhat Truth can the DoEior pretend that "^ all divine Powers, except abfolute Supremacy and Inde- pendency, are communicated to the Son^ And whether every Beings bejides the one Supreme Being, mttfl not ne- cejfarily be a Creature and Finite; and ivhether all divine Powers can be communicated to a Creature, In- finite Perfedion to a Finite Bei?2g? p. 174. a U E R Y XI. Whether if the jDo5ior means by divine Pcnverst Towers given by God ( in the fame Senfe as Angelical Poivers are di- vine Po7vers) only in a higher JDegree than are given toother Beings; it be not equivocating and faying nothing: Nothing that can come up to the Senfe of thofe Texts be' fore citedi f or to thefe foHowrag .? p. 1 8 1 . J]>plted. To the one God, Thou, even Thou, art Lord alone,- Thou haft To God the Son» All things were made by him^ Joh. I. 5. By him * Script wrc Poiflr. p. Ipg. t Qucrv 6, p. 89, were made Heaveny the Heaven of Heavens mth all their Hofl, the Earth, and all things that are therein &c. Neh. 9. S, In the Beginning, God Created the H<^avcns and the Earth, Gen. i. lo The CONTENTS. were allrhings Created; lAd is before all things and bf him all diings Condftj Cf- i^/. I. 1(5. 17. Thou, Lord, in the Be. ginning, haft laid the Foun* dation of the Earth; and the Heavens are the Wock of thy Hands, Heh» i« i.l Whether the DoHor hath not given a very partiM yiccount of Toll. 5. 23. founding the Honour due to the Sony on this only-, th^t the Father hath committed all Judg- ment torthe Son; when the true Reafon ajfgnd by oun Savio(tr, and illnftrated hy feveral InflanceSy is-, that the Son do/h the fame things that the Father doth, hath th& fams Pgwer and Authority of doing what he Will; and " therefore hkia Title to as great Honour , Reverence, and I(es!^ardy ar the Father himfelf hath\ And it is no Ob^ '^^'jepion to this, that the Son is there faid to do nothing \Qi himfelf,. er to have all given Him by the Father; fince it is ownd that the Father is the Fquntam of ally from whom the Son derives, in an ineffable manner, his E fence and Powers, fo as to be one 7i>ith him, p. 278. H a ^ QiV E KY. XX. l^hether the uoUor need have cited 300 Texts, wide of the purpofe, to prove what no Body denies, namely a Subor- dination, in fbme Senfe, of tljc Son to the Father; 'could He have found but one plain Text againfl his Eternity . f^r Confubflaiitiality, the points in Oueftionl p. 2^8. IVhether-he be, j not fprc'd to Jupply his want of Scripture- proof by very flraind and remote Inferences, and very uncertain Reafonings from the Nature of a thing, confef^ Jedhfy Obfcure and above Cor/iprehenfion ; and yet not r,(more fothaxi (ji?<^'j Eternity, Ubiquity, Prcfcience^ or other Attributes, which yet lue are chitted to ackl^ow- Isdge for certain Truths^ p. 30^^. . .''' '' -: ^2^ ' QUERY Wythir Us fthe Y^otton) :ivhol€ performarfCgi ^heH^jver Hedijfers jYom -usy ke^ any thwg .more than a Repetition Qf this u^lfertion, that £eing and Perfon are the fame^ , , QT that there is no Medium between Tritheifm ar^d Sa- .s.'bellianifin .<* which is removing -the ^Catifefr/)m Scripture to natural Reafon; not t^erj Conjifientlj with the Ittle of . hi^i-t^ot^ p. ja^. Whether the D6l\:or5 Notion of the Trinity be viore tA^^^"-H ^ ■ T'he DiffcHhy in the Conception of the 7fim^ 1^ ^^u^'^hree ■Pcrfons can be One God, •u)^^5^':y'"*^^*?^>'•''" ^cstheDoBor deny that every One of the PerfonSt ftngly^ ii God\ No: Does he deity that God ts Onef No: how lhe'4 are Three O/ie J)oes one and the fame Jiuthoritj^ exercifed hj all, make theJ^ ofTCy numerically or individually one and the fwic Qod? That is hard to conceive how three dtfiincl Beings y •^cording to the Do^hr's Scheme, .can be individt4aUy one God, that is, three Pcrfons. one Perfon, Jf -therefore one God necejfarlly jignifies bm one Perfon, the Con^ feq^ence is irrejiftible ■; either that the Tather is jhat one. ■ Perfifh ^«^ f^^s ^Ifi-* v^hich is downTnghtiSsboXll^i^iixn ; w' that the three -Pcrfons -are three Gods^^si'^'^ ■5«\\y4^ 'J0ous-the Doctor s S^hem^is 4iaHe t.9:'th^.fim^''''0ifficHlties ■' with -the othex, ' "'' ' ■ ' '' - ^■^"^•-^ ^ • Ther^'hyindeed one eafy Wity of coming of, and that isy by faying that the Son and Holy- Spirit aye neither of them God, in the Siripture-fenfe of the .Word. But this is cm ting the Knot, inflead of ptntying it ; and is in ef' feEl to jay, thsy 0re^mt>^fet Jii^rw :aS^^^ Per fins in ScnptHre, ■;*>.: '.• . \' . -^^\ x^y-s- Dees the Gommunlcatwn. of divine Powers and Attributes ■- from heather, to Son a^id Holy Spim, make them one Gods the Divinity of .the two .latter hi^gj.he Father s. Divinity I XherC ON TENTS. pivmij ? Xet the fame dtffkfilty recws r For Mjtr ^he Son and Holy^Ghofi ^ave dtfiia^i Attributes, and a di" Jiinch Dtvwity .of their own, or they have not: If th^ Jfrn^Cy they^e (npon thfi DoUors Principles) difiinci 6i}ds J, from the Father, and as mmh as Finite fxam Infinite y Creature from Creator ', and then how are they one\ If they have noty then, Jtnce they have no other Divinity ^ \. k^ that individual Divinity arid thofe At tributes oiihich are infeparable from jhe Fathers Effencey they can have m difimEi EJfence from the Father's; and Jo ( accord' ing to the Dotior) will be one and. the fame Perfony that is, will kfi Names only. Q. Whether this -be not as unintelligible as the , Orthodox JS^o* tion of the Trinitjy and liable to the like Difficulties', A communication of Divme Paivers and Attributesy ivithqut ■the Subftancey being as hard to conceive y nay, much har- der than a communta^tioit :of .Both together \ P^ 343. ^.^ au E R Y .:jcxiv. %Wk^ther Gal. ,4. 8. may not he enough to dctermirie the f\l\s'di_§uts betwixt hs ; fince it obliged the DoBqr to confef that Chrifi is ^ by Nature truly God, as truly as Man is by Nature truly Man. Me equivocatesy therey indecdy as VfuaL For, he will have it to fignifjy that Chrifl is God by Nature y only as having by that Nature which he derives frjom the Father y true Divine Power and Dominion : that isy he is truly God by Naturey as having a Nature diflinEi from and infe- rior to GocCsy wanting \ the moft Eflcntial Charader ^u .of God, Self-exiflence, What is this but trifling "With "^ Wordsy ^d^.flaymg ji}fi . ^d .Joofe ? p. 3-7Q*: < ., aU E R Y XXV. jVhcther it be jtot clear from. ali the genuine remains of An- ticjutty, that the Catholick^ Church before the Council of Nice, and even jrom the begimiingy did believe the •£- iernity and Copf/^bjlamality ..of th ,S(m.i. -if other the n\v.i\7iVi a I, pldefi fldejl Creeds, as interpreted by thofe that recite themi er the Tejiimonies of the^^arlkfi Writers] or the fublick^ CenJ fires fiajs*4 upon Hei^eti^kjy or part ic filar pajjages iff^\ ■ the yintj^nieft JFaiUrsy. sm ^M^M^^ ^. f ^f^i^f^i ^ ■ ^bing JVhether the Do5}or did not equivocate or prevaricate firartge^ kf in faymg ^ The Gener.:liry of Writers before the . Council ot Nice, were, in the whole, clearly on his ^,j(3de: when it is ?nanifeji^ they were^ in' 'the general, no farther OH his Jid^, than the allowing a, Subordina-j tion amounts to; no further than our own Church is on his fide^ while in the ma,'m points of diferencey the Eternity and Gonfubftantialiry , they are clearly againfl him\ '^ ■ Tf^at isy they were on his fide^ fo far as we acknowledge bjm to. he rights hut no farther, p. 3 Sp.^s^^^w cot «i^wt QUERY XXViri^-^^^O ^^t^WYK fpjether the Learned VocJor may not reafonahly he fuppofd 0 fay, the Fathers are on his Gdc iiith the fame Jiieaning and Referve as he pretends our Church-Forms ^ ^a fav.Qur him; that is, provided he may interpret as h^^^ fl^afis, and make than fpeak^ his Senje^ however Contra^ di^ory tq their own : Jind whether the true Reafon W/y be does not care to admit the Tcftimonies of the Fathers as l^xooky..mar m h^r. ^eca-^fe ihcy arev againft hi;^? a u E ?v Y xxvni. whether it h? at all probable, that the primitive Church fhould miftake in fo material a Point as this is i or that the whole Stream of Chrifiian Writers fhould miftake in tellhig-uswkfat the Sen fs of the Church was ; and v->he^ tier juch a Cloud of Waneffts can be fet afide with^out wcakemng the only Proof we have of the Canon of Scripture.. ^W the Integrity of the Sacred Text ? p. 4 56". < Anlwe? tp Dr. V/elU pagi i§. ClU E K Y The CONTENT^T ■A-ii\.\v.c^ -^^t >^^ Q. U E R Y XXIX^^^-^A^T ^W ^% fVhether^ private Reafon'wgt in a matter a^ove hWr CbyH^ p-ehenjiorj^ be ^ jafer Knle to go bj^ than the gerierat Senfe and 'Judgment of the primitive Church , ' in tht firfi 500 Tears; or^ fuppo/ing it doubt Jul what the Senfe cf the Church was within that time, whether 7vhat wai determind by a Conned of ^ 00 Bifljops foon after'-i ^ith \the great eft Care and De liber at ion, and has fatisfied Meji 'of the greatefl Senfe, Piety and Learnings all over thi* Chriflian Worlds fir 1400 fear's fi^xe^ may not fatisff wije and^good^Men nonv\ p. ^^o. '• .■ QUERY XXX. - ^vk. ^ ■ Whtther-i fnppofng the Cafe doubt fuU it bs mt d 'Mfi^ A^ah^i ■pArt ta take the fafer Side*, rather to thinly too highl)\ than too meanly of our Blejfed Saviour; rather to pay a modeft deference to the Judgment of the Antient and Modern Churchy than to lean to onii o'um Vnderfiand*' tf^ether any thing lefs than clear and evident Demon ftrl^s tion 5 on the fide of Arianirm , ought to move n "wifi and good Man^ againfi fo great Appetvi'ances of Truiti^ on the fide ^/Orthodoxy, from Scripture, Reafdn* And Antiquity: And whether we may net wait jQff£ htfne y;e find fuch Demon ftrationf p. 48r»c^if ,% .inv:.a y ^ j. j jj A^ . 's ^v.r^V.. . .-^ ^^ > V Y\vx^\id ^d\ ^\^ ^"3iU3 ii tS^"j8. Vol. i- Edit. B^^ned. v.4,5'. lo ^DEFENSE Qjj, II V. 4, 5*. is about I^o/s, and nominal Gods and Lords, which have no claim or title to religious Woriliip. Thefe the Father and Son are both equally didinguiflied from : which may infi- nuate, at lead, to us ; That the Texts of the Old or New Tedament declaring the Unity and excluding others, do not exclude the Son, by whom are all Things: So that here again you have unfortunately quoted a Pafllige, which in- ftead of making for you, feems rather again ft you. You have another, which is Efh. 4. 6. 07ie God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all, A famous Paflage, which has generally been underftood by the * Antients of the whole Trinity. Above all as Father, through all, by the Word, and in all by the Holy Ghoil. However that be, this is certain, that the Father may be realon- ably called the one, or only, God, without the lead Diminution of the Son's real Divinity : a fuller Account of which Matter you may pleafc to lee in Dr. Fiddes's Body of Divinity, Vol. i. p. 383, ^c. As to the remaining Texts cited by you, lome are meant of Chriii as Man. or as Mediator: And rhofe which certainly re- jpedt him in a higher Capacity , may be ac- counted for on this Principle, that we referve, with the Antients, a Priority of Order to the Father, the Firjt of the Bleded Three. * Ir^neus 1, y. c. i8. p. 5 if. Ed.Bened. Hippolytus Contr. Noet. C.I 4. p. 16. Fabric. Ed. Athanafius 'E.^.2i.^'Scr^}p. Marius Vidorin. B. P. Torn. 4. p. 2/8» Hieronym. Tom. 4.. p. 1, p. 362.Ed.Bened. This Qy. II. of fome (QUERIES. ii This may ferve for a general Key to explain the Texts mentioned, or others of like import. I cannot, in this place, defcend to Particulars, without running too far into the 'Defenfivc ; and leading the Reader od from what we began with. Had you pleas'd to obfcrve the rules of flrid: method in difpuce, you iliould not here have brought Texts to ballance mine : but iliould have refcrved them for another place. All you had to do, was to examine the Texts I had fet down in the fecond Column ; and to give fiich a Senie of them as might comport with your own Hypothejis, or might be un- ferviceable to mine. You Ihould have fhown that Jch. I. I. Heb. i. 8. and Rom. 9.5-. may fiirly be underftood of a nominal Go^ only; one that ftands excluded, by the Texts of the firft Column, from al! Pretence, or Title, to religious Homage and Adoration: For, as I have before oWerved, He mult either be entire- ly excluded, or not at all ; and if He be not excluded, He is comprehended in the one Su- preme God, and is one with Him : or, at leaft, you ihould have let before the Reader your Inrerpretation of thole Texts, and have fliown it to be confident with the Texts of Ifaiah, For example, take Job. 1. 1. '* In the Beginning was the W OKDy and '* the Word was with the one Supreme ' * God, and the Word was Another *' God inferior to Him, a Creature of the *• Great i^ ^DEFENSE Qjj, II. ** Great God: All Things were Crea t- ED by this Creature, &c. This Interpretation, which is really yours, ss iliall be fliown in the Sequel, is what you fliould have fairly own'd, and reconciled, if poffible , with the Texts of Ifaiah , ( pur- pofely defign'd to exclude all inferior, as well as co-ordinate Gods) and particularly with Ifaiah 46. 9. Before me there ^-juas 710 God form'd, neither Jhall there be after me: Words very full and expreifive againit any Creattire-Gods. But, inltead of this, you tell us, God could not be with Himfelf as if any of us laid, or thought, that was St. John's meaning. Thus you indultrioufly run from the Point, miireprelent our Senle, and artfully conceal your own. In this flight man- ner, you pals over the three firfl: Texts already rnention'd ; but you think you have feme Ad- vantage of the ^ieriji, in relpedl of Thil. X. 6. and Heb. i. 3. and not content to fay, that they come not up to the point ; you are very pofitive, that thty prove the direct con- trary to that for which they are aUedgd\ and exprefs your wonder that they jhottld be offered. Whether you really wonder at a fhing, which no Man who is at all acquainted with Books and Learning can wonder at ; or whether only you affed: that way of talking, I deter- mme not; but proceed to confider what you have to offer againfl: my Senfe of the two Texts. Upoa Q^u. If. of fome QUERIES. 13 Upon ThiLx. 6. you preft me with the Au- thority of Novatian ; whom, I do aflure you, I very much rcfpefr, as 1 do all the primitive Writers. As to Novatian\ Interpretation of ThiL 1,6 it iiiall be confider'd preiently ; on- ly, in the firft place, let me obicrve to you, that as to the main or" my Argument, buik upon that and other Texts, He was certainly on my Side. He * cites Ifa. 45*. 5*. and unJerftands it of God the Father; not fo as to exclude t\\Q. Son from being comprehended in the one God, but in oppofition to faife Gods only. He proves the Divinity of Chrift from his receiving WorjQiip of the Church , and his being every where prefent, f befides many other Topicks ; and makes Him \ Confuh- ftantial with God the Father. This is as much as I mean by his being one with the Supreme God\ and therefore I have nothing to fear from this Writer, who agrees fo well with me in the main, and cannot be brought to bear Evi- dence againft me, unlets, at the fame time. He be found to contradid: Himfelf This being ♦ Ego Dens, 8c ndn eft pracrcr me. Qui per eundem Prophetani refert: Quoniam rnajcftatein n:eam non dabo alien', ut ornnes cum fuis Figrrentis Rrhnicos excludat &: Hierericcs. C. 3. />. 708. See filjo lie Citation above p. 9, t Si Homo tanrummodo Chriftus, quomodo adeft ubiqiie invo- catus, rum haec hominis natura non lit, fed Dei, ut adelFc omni loco poflit ? C 14. /). 715'. \ Unus Deus oftendirur verus &: seternus Pater, a quo folo hxc vis Divinitatis emiffa etiam in Filium tradita & direfta rurfuni per Subjiant'ii Commumomm ad Patrem revolvitur. lather is here fiiled emphatically the cne God, hut fiill comprehending, not exclttd- ing the S(>n, coufubftantial -mth Hm^ Ch. 31, p. 730. premised. 14 ^DEFENSE Q^li. II. premised, lee us now lee what He lays to the Text above mcntion'd, TlnLi.6, He faith of the Son (I ul'e your own Words, p. 35.) that thd He was in the Form of God, yet He ne- ^er compared Himfelf with God his Father. You have tranflared the ]aft Words as if they had run thus; ^}eo, patri Juo. The Words are, Nnnquam fe 'Deo '^Patri aut comparavit, ant contulit. Never compared Himfelf with God the Father, The Reaion follows, Memor fe ejfe ex fio Tatre : Remembring He was from his Father : That is, that He was be^ gotten, and not unbegotten. He never pre- tended to an equality with the Father, in re- fpedt of his Original, knowing Himielf to be fecond only in Order, not the frft Peribn of the ever Blefled Trinity. You may lee the like Expreilions in * Hilary and f Fhabadius ; who can neither of them be faiped:ed of jirianizing in that Point. You afterwards cite Ibme other Expreirions of Novatian, particu- larly this: Duo ^qtiales invent i duos Deos merito reddidijfent. Which you might have render'd thus : Had they both been equal ( in refped: of Original , both unbegotten ) They had undoubtedly been two Gods. See the :j: whole PafTage as it lies in the Au- * H'lb.ry Trin. I. 3. c 4. p. 816. Ed. Bened. f Ph^Occd. p. 5(94,. •^ Si enim natus non fuifTet, innatus comparatus cum eo qui cfTet innatus, xcuatione in utroque oftcnfa, duos taceret innatos, & idco duos facciet Deos. Si non genitus cflet, collatus cum eo (qui) genitus non elTet & aequales invent!, duos Deos merito reddi- rhor Q^u. II. of fome (QUERIES. 15- thor himfelf, and not maim'd and murilared as you quote it, from Dr. Clarke, There is no- thing more in it than this, that Father and Son are not two Gods, becaulc They are not both un- originated : which is the common Anlwer made by the Cachohcks to the charge of Tritheifm ; not only before, but after the Nicene Council'^ as might be made appear by a Cloud of Wit- neffes, were it needful. What you are picas'd to call a moji Jtrong Tejlimony againft an ah- Joint e Coequal'tty (meaning this PafTage of No- *vatian) is, if rightly underftood? and compared with what goes before and after, a mod ftrong Teftimony of fuch a Coequality as we contend for. And therefore Dr. IFhitby, having for- merly cited the whole Paragraph as a full and clear Teftimony of the Son's real Divinity, concludes thus. The Author, fays He, in this PafTage, " *does in the plained words imagin- *' able, declare that Chrifl: is God, equal to *' the Father in every telped:, excepting only *' that He is God of God. The Dodcr indeed has fince chang'd his Mind ; and now talks as confidently the other way, upon f this very Paffage. Whether He was more likely to fee clearly then , or fince , I leave to others to diflent n:;n gcniti; atque ideo duos Chriftus reddidifTet Deos, C\ fine Origine efTcr, ut Pater, inventus, &: ipfe principium omnium, ut Pater, duo facicns principia, duos oftendiflet nobis confequenter ^ Deos. C. 31. * Ubi verbis difertiirimis oftendit ( Novratianus ) Chriftum effe Deum, Patri aequalem paremque, eo tantummodo excepto, quod fit Deus de Deo. IVhitb. TraB. de Ver, Chr, Deitate, p. 67. t lii>it!iy> difqui.ntio Modeft f. 1CJ4, judge i6 ^DEFENSE Qu, II. judge, who will be at the Pains to compare his former with Ibme of his latter Writings. You have given us the Sum of the 317? Chapter of Novatian , as it (lands collected by the Learned "Dr. Clarke in bis excellent Anfwer to Mr. NelibnV Friend. You may next pleafe to conlulc the no lefs excellent Re- ply, by Mr. NelJo7t\ Friend, p. 170, ^c. where you may probably meet with Satisfaction. But to return to our Text, Thil. x. 6. The Words, H^x^ 'ApTiaffxov Jy/icjctlo to tlvxj 1re ; He did not a-ffe6t, did not claim, did not ajpiime, take upon Him, or eagerly de- Jire, to he Honoured as God. Afterwards, p. 36. He never thought fit to claim to Him- felfDivinity, or more literally, you fay. He never thought the 'Divinity a Thing to he fo catch' d at hy Him, as to equal Himfelf with God his Father. This you give both as No- vatian's Senfe, and as the true Senfe of the Text. And you endeavor to confirm it from the Authorities of Grotius, Tillotjm, Whithy, and Clarke ; who, by the way, are very diffe- rent from each other in their Interpretations of this Place, hardly two of Them agreeing toge- ther. * However not to (land upon Niceties," I may yield to you your own Interpretation of this PafTage, did not ajfeci to he Honoured as God'., For the ftreis of the Caufe does not leem * I am perfivaded thai: tie Wordi may very juftly be tranjlated He (ltd not very highly '{/alue^ did not i?ifift upon, his e(3uality with Cod, 6nt condefcended, 6cc. fo' Qu. 11. cffo;r/e Q^UERIES. 17 fo much to lie in the Inrcrpretation of tho(e Words, as of the Words foregoing, vizi. 'U df /Ltop^}) 0^:5 vTfapx^^' ** Who being in the Form " of God, that is, * truly God (which beft *' anfwers to the Antitbcjis following, the *' Form of a Servant fignifying as much as ** truly Man) and therefore might juflly have *' afTumed to appear as God, and to be always ** Honoured as fiich , yet did not do it, at ** the time of his Incarnarion; but for a Pat- '* tern of Humility, chofe rather to veil His *• Glories, and, in appearance, to empty Him- " felf of Them, taking upon Him human Na- *' ture, and becoming a Servant of God in that '* Capacity, S>V. What is there in this Para- phrafe or Interpretation, either difagreeable to th^ Scope of the Place, or the Context, or to the fober Sentiments of Catholick Antiquity, not only after, but before the Council oi Nics\ as may appear from the Teltimonies cited in * Tertullian'i recital of this Text, and Comment upon it, are worth Remarking. Plane dc Tubftantia Chrifti patant Sc hie Marcionirse Suffragari Apoftolum fibi, quod Ph .ntaima Carnis fuerit in Chrifto, quum dick, Quod tn Effigie Dei conjlitutus non rapinam exifinn^.vit Pariari Deo, fed exhaufit femetipfum accept a F.^jigie fervi, non veri- tate; ^ Jimditudine Hcmmis, non in Hominej (^ Figura inventus ut Homo, non Subflantia, id elt, non Came. 'Numquid ergo 8c Hie qua in Effi^ie eum Dei collocat? iEque non erit I)en$ Chriflus Tjere, fi nee Homo vere fuit in Ejf.gie Hominis Confiitutus, Contr. Marc. 1. f . c. lo. p. 486. Non libi magni aliquid deputat quod ipfe quidem asqualis Deo, 8c unum cum Patre, eft. Orig. in Epif' ad Rom. I. f. 0£o? foiv KivtoTzc^ ixvrov oCTrh y sTvccf Tnx, QiJ. Concil. Antioch. Labb. Vol. i. p. 848. 'O {Asvoyi^'; t5 0£» Xoy^, ©£0^ V7n/,^^iiV C^ 0f5, KUtiVUKiV iU,UTOV t(^ T^V uh^OV TUUTUU ffZC^y^ .iifATn^irv. Hippolytus, Vol. 2. p. 29. Fabric. The refi of th$ ^affage if e-xi^Uenily well worth the Reader*s perufaL e the l8 ^DEFENSE Qjj, If. the Margin? Now, if this be the Senfe of it,^ which I might farther confirm by the Autho- rities of Athanafitis, Jercm, Jlnflht^ Chry- fofiom, Theofhyla6i, Oecumenius, and others of the Antients, befides * Biihop Vearfon and fBifliop^//// among the Moderns, why fliould you wonder to find it agam cited in the lame Caufe, being fo full and pertinent to the Mat- ter in Hand ? Next, we may proceed to the other Text, which you as groundlefly pretend to be direBly contrary to that for which it is alledged. It is Hebr. i. 3. Who being the Brtghtnefs of his Glory, and the exfrefs Image of his Terfon, Sec. Here you are fo obliging as to cite only one Pafiage out of Eufebius, againfl: me, I would fay, for me. JEu/ebius, writing againfl: the Sabellians, prel- fts Them with this Text, and argues thus from it. " The Image, and that whereof it is the " Image, cannot both be the fame Thing {m. '* the Sabellian Senle) but they are Pwo Sub- ** fiances, and two Things, and two Towers : from whence He rightly inters, or plainly means to do, that the Father is not the Son^ but that they are really diftind. What is there in this at all repugnant to what the '^uerifi maintains ? The force of your Ob- jedion lies, I fiippofe, in this, that Father and * On the Creed: Article 1. f Def. Fid. N. 4.9. 70. Prim. Trad. p. 38. Qui unus locus, /i refte expcndatur, ad omnes H.rrefes adireribs Jeiii Chrifti Domirs noftri perfonam repcllendas fufficit. D. F. p. 37, Son Qjj. 11. offome (QUERIES. 19 Son are called ^io nal^^ Sio 'Tr^ffioL'^j and S\jo S^vvd/iiei^, inconfiiiencly, you imagine, with hidi- vidual Confubftanrialiry, I will nor be bound to vindicate every Ex- prc/Tion ro be met with in Eiifeblus : Bur, al- lowing for the Ti'BC, when it was wrote, be- fore rhe ienle of thofe Words was fix*d and de- termin'd, as it has been {Ince ; there may be nothing in all this, which fignifies more than what the Catholick Church has always meant by two Terfons\ and what all mull affirm, who believe a real Trinity. So ^ Tierius caird Father and Son hct'icl^ JJo, meaning no more than we do by two diftind: Perlons : And Alexander Bifliop oi Alexandria, ih^ firft Champion for the Catholick Caule againft Arms, in his Letter to Alexander Bifliop of Conjtantinofle, Icruples not to call Father and Son ^ 6ij:i -TT^i^ca'^ ; and Tertullian intimates that they are ^ du£ res, fed Conjunct £ ; and Methodius ufes ^ib'o ^vd/uLei^, meaning two Per- lons. Thefe or rhe like ilrong Exprefiions , occurring in the Catholick Writers, were only to guard the more carefully againft Sabellia* nifm, the prevailing Herejy of thofe Times, But 2iit^x ArianiTm arofe, there was Greater dan- ger of the oppofite extreme : And therefore they began to foften this manner of Expreffion, left any fliould be led to think, thar the Per- fons of the Trinity were fo diftind as to be a See Phot. Cod. 119. p. 300. b Apud Theod. !. i. c. 4; c Contr. Prax. t. 8. p. 5-04. d Phot. Cod. 23^. p. 137- C X indepeit- 20 ^DEFENSE Q^u. 11. independent of, feparate from, and aliene to, each other. Thus, inftead of S'vo (pSivx^ which might be innocent before , and is iifed b^^ * Origen, They chofe rather to fay, f Cf^^ &/. (^ooros: rather than fay, du£ ejfentia, which might be liable to miflakes; They would lay, Ejfentia de Ejfentia, as T>eus de 'Deo. The defign of all which was, fo to afTert a real Di- ftinftion, as not to teach three abiblute, inde- pendent, or feparate Subftances; fo to maintain the diftiiiEitGn of Perlons, as not to divide the Subftance. Three real Perfons is what I. what every Trinitarian, what all ibund Catholicks affert. Now let us return to the Text, Heb. i. 3^. Having fliown you that Eti/ebitis's Comment is not pertinent to our preient Dilpute, nor at all afFeds the Caufe that 1 maintain, which, I afTure you, is not Sabellianifm : Now let me proceed a little farther, to vindicate my uie of that Text ; which, you pretend, is ftrong againft me. Origen perhaps may be of Ibme Credit with you ; and the more for being admired by the Brians, and much cenfur'd by many of the Catholicks^ but after his own Times. :|: His Comment, upon a parallel Text to this, toge- ther with this alfb, is pretty remarkable. "' If *' He (Chrift) be the Image of the invifible, *' the Image xk felf mufl: be invifible too. I . " will be bold to add, that finceHe is the Re- *' femblance of his Father, there could not have * Comment, in Joli. p. 70, f See Athanaf. V. i. p-j")-?. ^ Apud Atbanal". Decret. Synod. Nic. Vol. 1. p. 23^. beenr Qjj. II. of fame (QUERIES. zi '' been a Time when He was not. He goes on to argue, that fince God is Light, andChrift the \\7(aij') draws the very fame Inference from the fame Text. And Alexander Biiliop of Alexandria, in his circular Letter, ^ extant in Athanafins, makes the hke ufe of it. The latter part of the Text efpecialiy, the words, exprefs Image of his Terfon, were very fre- quently and triumphantly urg'd by the Cat ho- licks againft the Arians : by ^ Alexander of Alexandria, ^ At h an a fins, ^ Hilary, ^ Bafil, s Gregory Nyffen, ^^ Gregory Nazianzen, ^ Cy- ril, and Others. This may iatisfy you that it w^as neither firange, nor new^ to alledge this Text in favor of Chrift's Divinity. When you have any thing farther to objedJ, it fliall be fairly examined. la the mean while, let it (land, to iupport the Se- cond QiJery ; which returns upon you, and ex- perts a fuller Anfwer. That it may come co yu^ oca 7« ^ip STS'l 'TTTlV'TZyv, O S 'm^? ^J^ 7ZZi.V7Ti)V, TO 05 GCyiOV TFViij/J^ CV Tfumv. ''AXXooc, 01 iva. ®iov vofMicmcj ^» Jlvuyjiju,, iocv fJUA Ivtzjc, tizct^i^ tt^ 'ijeS Y^ dyia TrnOfAo/^U 7n^6r^, that is, his Son, by whom He made all Things , as I renins conftantly undcrrtands it. Ac other times, He fiys, '' God * made all Things by Himfelf: ** interpreting Himfelf, by His IVord and by •* HisJVifdom\ that is, His Son, and ih^Holy "■ Spirit. Certainly, he could not think that God, m his Declarations of the Unity, meant to exclude what was fo near to Him, as to be \ juftly (not in a Sabellian Senfe) interpreted Himfelf Many more Paflages of the like Im- port might be cited from this primitive and ex- cellent Writer. I Ihail only add a f Paflage or two to lliow, that He look'd upon the Son as the only trne God, as well as the Father. He obierves, that the Holy Scriptures never call any Perlbn abiblucely God or Lord , befides * Fecit ea per femeiip/uaK hoc eft per Verbum 8c Sapientiam •. fuam. Adcft enim ci Temper Verbum ^ Sapientia, Filius & Spiritus^ 1 per quos , & in quibus, omnia libere 2c fponte fecif. Lib. 4. j c. 20. p. 253. f Nunquam neque Propheta! ncque Apoftoli alium Deum nomi- navcrunr, vel Doniinam app:?ll2veriint, prc^tcr Verum ^ Solum Deum. L. 3. c.8, p. 182. Ncque igitur Dominus, neque Splritusi Sandlus neque Apoftoli eum qui non eftet Dcus, definitive & abfo- lute Deum nominalfent aliquando nifi eiTct Vere Deus. L. 3. c.6- Norp fee what follcrvs. Urrofque Dei appellatione fignavit Spiritus 6c eum qui ungitur.i Tiitum^ & eum qui ungit Patrein. L. 3. c. 6. p. 180. This Tat her goes on, in the fa??)e Chapter, to prothice fever al other Inftances from the Holy Scripture to prove that the Son is called {definitively and abfolutely) God. That is plainly his meaning, as any Man may fee by looking into the Chapter. I may add that He ap- plies the Title of Solixs Deus to ChrijL L. f. c 17. p. 3 14. C 4 the a4 ^DEFENSE Qjj, H the only true God\ and yet prcfently after rakes norice, that both Father and Son are by the fame Scriptures abj'dutely 'io called. See the places in the Margin: For though abfolutely be not there exprefs'd, yet it is necefTarily implied, and is undoubtedly the Author's mean- ing. We may go on to TertuUian, who is lb full and clear to our Purpofe, that nothing can be liiore fo. Out of many PaiTages which might be cited, T ihall here content my lelf with one out of his Book againft Traxeas, '* * There *^ is therefore one God the Father, and there ** is none Other befides Him : By which He, *' does not mean to exclude the Son, but^:^^- *' ther God. Now the Son is not Another ** from the Father. Furthermore, do but ob- " ferve the drift and tendency of this kind of ** Expreffions, and you will find, for the moft *' part, that they concern only the Makers * Igitur unus DeuG Pater, & alius obfaue eo non efl: Quod ipfe infefens, non Filfum'negat, ied AliiinV Deum. Caeterum Alius a patre Filius non eft. Dcnique, in f pice fequcntia hujufmodi pro-* riuntiationum,& invenias fere adldolorum Faditores atque Culrores Definitionem enrum perrinere; ut multitudincm faiforum Deorum Unio diviniratis expcliat, habens ramen Filium quarito individuum- 2c infeparat.um a Fatic, tai)to in Patre reputandam, etii non nomi- natum. At quin li nominalVet illiirn, jeparnllet, ita dicen?, Alius praeter me non efl, niii Filius meus. Alium enim etiam Filium fecifTet, quern de aliis excepifTet. Puta Sojem dicere: Ego Sol, 8c alius prceter me non eft, ni radius meusj nonne denotafles Vanitatem j quail non & Radius in Sole deputetur. c. 1 8. p. 5-10. Compare Jren&HSy 1. 4. c. 6. p, 134., i3f. Non ergo Alius tr^it qui cognofce- batur, 8c Alius qui d\cehitnemocognofcit FatreWy fed unus 8c idem, omnia iubjiciente ei Patre, 8c ab omnibus accipiens Teftimonium quoniam Fi?^,^ Ijoipo, 8c quoniam Vere Deus.it—— ' and Qy, 11. of/bme (QUERIES. ^^ *' and Worfliipers of Idols ; x\\'2xTolytheifm *' may be rooted out by a Senle of the divine ** ^Onity, which neverthelels includes the Son; '' \yho, in as much as He is undivided and in- *' fcparabie from the Father, is to be un- " derftood as imphed in the Father, tho' He be *' not particularly named. Farther; had He *' named the Son in this Caie, it had been '* tantamount to Jeparating Him from Him- ** Iclf : luppoie He had iaid; there is None '* Other befides me, except my Son ; He would *' in efTed: hereby have declared Him to be *' Another {ox aliene) by excepting Him ia *' that manner out of Others. Suppoie the Sun *' to (ay , I am the Sun, and there is not " Another befides me, except my oivnRay^ *' would not you have mark'd the Imperti- *' nence; as if the Ray were not to be reckoned *' to the Sun, as included in it? Here you fee plainly what TertuHian means; Namely, that the Son is lb much one with the Father^ that He cannot be fuppofcd to be excluded among Other Deities: He is not Another ^ but the fame God with the Father: and yet this! He afferts in a dilpute againfl: Traxeas, one oil the lame Principles, in the main, with Noetus . and Sabellttts : So careful was He not to run Things into the oppofite extreme. He takes ' care io to aflert the Son to be the fame God with the Father, as not to make Him xht fam€ Terfon : And on the other hand , while He\ ipaintains the Diflinition of Perfons, He does I not z6 ^DEFENSE Q^u. If. not forger to keep up the true Catholick Do* drine of the ^Ouity of Subjlance. 1 iliall next cite Athenagoras-, This learned and judicious Writer, having proved at large, that there is but one God, the Father; and that the Chriftians acknowledged no Other God ; yet immediately adds, ^ nniiiM yip x^ 'ijlv y ©ey, ^•9- ^'37' ^s much as to fay, we comprehend and include the Son in that one God ; we are always to be underftood with this referve, or ^ S^ilvo to the Divinity of the Son ; as does clearly appear from what follows in the lame Chapter, and in the next to it, where the Son is call'd ^ the Mind and ff^ord of the Father, and declared to be ^ 'Uncreated, and ^ Eternal. And in ^ anoth :r place He very plainly com- prehends Both in the one God. To avoid Pro- lixity, I ihall content my felf with s referring only to the Paflages in others of the Ante- ^icene Writers, leaving you to confult Them at your leifure, if you can make any doubt of fo clear a Cafe. As to the Toji-Nicene Fathers, a Parallel to which h that in ArhanaHus, Oraf. 3. p. j-yS. NoaTTJsf ti (Tvv rJ yJ)Vco y^ 6 't|(9§. A/id again: *£v rco svi, y^ f^va, y^ tt^ivtm rjvenv pcuTvc^ 6 }\cy2^; See Tertull. Contr. Prax. c. I 9. b Salvo eniTTi liiio, re£te unicum Deum poteft deierniinafle cujus efl Filius. Terrull. adv. Prax. c. 18. C N5? f(^^ Aoy^ t5 7T3cr^5. c- 10. p. 5.O. d OtJ^ a^ y.vofjjivov, e 'Ai'ii®^. pn^i. Compare p. 40. \g Clemens Alexandr. p. 129. ijy. 142. Origen Contr. Celf. 1.8. p» 386. & alibi. Hippolytus Contr. Noet. paflim. Novatian, c. 3. Dionyfius Romanus, apud Athmdf. Dionyfim Alexand* apud Atha- •'istfifim, p. 254. Athana- QjLL IL of fof/^e (QUERIES. 27 Athanajins, Bafil, the Gregory's, Jerom, Au^ Jlin, Chryfojiom, &c. Their Sentiments arc well known, in the preicnt Point; and how they do not only rejed", but abhor the Prin- ciples which you are endeavouring to revive. However, I iliall tranlcribe one Parage out of AtbanafiHs,^2iXZ whereof has been given above, which may ierve as a Comment upon the Ca- tholicks which went before Him, whofe Senti- ments He was pcrfedly well acquainted with, and had thoroughly imbibed. " *When the Prophet, (peaking of theCrea- ** tion, lairh, IVhich Mont /pr cadet h out the *' Heavens, Job. 9. 8. And when God fays, *' / A\or\Q Jiretch forth the Heavens, If 44. 14. '' It is very manifefltoevery Man, that in Him, *' who is iaid to be Alone, the IVord of that '* Alone, is alib Signified, in whom all Things ** were made, and without whom Nothing was *' made. If therefore the Heavens were made " by the Word, and yet God iays, I Alone -^ *' and the Son. by whom the Heavens were *' made, is underllood to have been with the ** Alone Godi\ for the fame reaibn alio, if it ** be faid, one God, and I Alone, and I the *' Firji, we are undoubtedly to underftand , *' that in the One, Alone, and FirJi, is com- *' prehended the Word, as EfFulgenc3^ i;raij- •* yoLGlJLx, is implied in Light. Athanafius's reafbning in this PafTage is fb hke Tertullian's upon the fame Head, that one might think He ♦ Athanaf, Orat. 3. Contr. Arian. p. fjS. had 28 ^/f D E F E N S E Qjj. II. had borrow'd it from Him. Bur, indeed, it is lb entirely conformable to the true and genuine Sentiments of the CathoUcks before Him, that it may juftly pals for the general Senfe of AIL To confirm what harh been faid, I fliall ufe one Argument more, before I pafs on to ano- ther Query ; fuch as, if carefully confider'd, may be fufficient to filence all farther doubt or fcruple, with regard to the Senfe of the jinte- NiceJie Writers. It IS well known, that they ever look'd up- on the Son, as the God of the Jews, the God of Abraham, Ifaac and Jacob, that is, the one Supreme God. Many particular Teftimonies may be cited in Proof of the Fad, which, for Brevity fake, I pafs over; and proceed to a more general Argument drawn from their citing of Texts out of the Old Teftament, in which the one Supreme God is undoubtedly fpoken of; and applying them to the Peribn of Chrifl, the fecond Perfon of the ever Blefled Trinity. ^They heard the Voice of the Lord God walking in the Garden. And the Lord God called unto Adam, &c. Gen. 3,8,9. f The Lord appeared to Abram, and faid unto him, lam the Almighty -God -^ walk be- fore me, and be thou perfect, Gen. 17. 1,2. * Theophil. Antioch. p. 129. Ed.Ox. Teriullian, adv. TraX' c. 16. f Clem. Alex. Fddag. 1. 1. c. 7. p»I3I. Eufeb. Demonftr. Ev. I.5. •c. 9. £. H. i. I. c. 2« And Qjj. IF. offome QUERIES. 19 3 ^//^ the Lord appeared unto him in the plains ^/Mamre. The Lord [aid unto Abra- ham, &c. Gen. 18. I. 13. t The Lord rained upon Sodom, and upon Gomorrah brimflone and fire from the Lord out of Heaven^ Gen. 19. ^4. ^ And Abraham flood before the Lord, &c. Gen. 19.27. ^ And God faid unto Abraham, &c. Gei>. 21. 12. e And behold, the Lord food above it, and faid, I am the Lord God ^/Abraham thy Fa* ther, andtheGodofl^2i2iC, Gen. 18.13. ^ I am the God of Bethel, where thou anoint edft the Tillar, &c. Gen. 31.13. § A7td God faid unto Jacob, arife, go up to Bethel, . and make there an altar to God, that appeared unto Thee, &c. Gen. 35"- 1- ^1 God called unto him out of the midft of the Bujh. He laid, / am the God of Abraham, the God of Ifaac> and the God 2. Jujlint Martyr, p. 213. Sylhurg. Ed. Novat, c. i6- TeritilL Trax. c. 16, 17. Enfeb» Dem. E. J. 5-. c 9. Epiji. Synod. Antloch, Labb. Tom, I. p. 845". b Jiifl, Mart. ip,2\. \2o- TerthlLfrax, c. I 3. 16. Eufeb. E. H. U I. c. 2. Nor at, c. 21. 26. c Juft' Mart, p. II 6. d yuji. Mart. Novat. c 16. e y^ujl. Mart. p. 1 18. Clem. Alex. Vdd* 1. 1. c. 7. p. 1 5 i. f Jiift. Mart. 218. Clem. Alex. P^d. 1. i.e. 7. p. 151. Sovat, c. 17. Eufeb. Demon. Ev* \. f. c. 10. £/>{/?. Synod. Antioch. Labb. Tom. I. p. 848. g fujlin Mart. 11 8' Cyprian. Tejl, 1. 2. €.6- p. 35-. E^. Ox. h Ji^ft* Mart. p. 210. IrenAus, 1. }. c. (>. p. 180. 1. 4. c. i2. p. 141. 1.4. 0.5-, p. 233. Terthli. Prax. c 16* Epiji, Syn:>J, Ami9(h, Mb, Tom. i. p» 348. */ 30 ^DEFENSE Q^u. 11. ^ Jacob, &c. Exod. 3. 4. 8. ^ And God faid unto Mofes, I am that I A M. 77?^ Lord God of your Fathers, the God of Abraham, of Haac, and of Jacob, ap- feafdy Exod. 3. 14, 15. ^ / appeared unto Abraham, unto Ifaac, a7id finto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah, was I not known unto them-, Exod. 6. 30. ^ / am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the Land ^/ Egypt, Exod. 10. i. ^ God (9/^Iiraei, Exod. x^. to, ^ The Lord fir ong and mighty , the Lord mighty in battle. The Lord of Hofts, He is the King of Glory, Plal. 24. 8. 10. ^ Be fiill, and know that I am God. I will he exalted, &c. Pfal. 46. 10. s God is gone up with a Jhout, The Lord (Jehovah) &c Pfal. 47. 5. ^ The mighty God, even the Lord, hath fpoken Our God/hall come, and Jhall not keep filence, &c. Plal. 50. 1,3. a Irenseus, ub't fupra. That is. He muft of confequence under' ftand this of Chrift as well as, v. 4.8. CSee Trm Script, Docirme cmtinu'd p. 15-9,160.) Tertull. adv. Prax,c. 17. Juji. Mart,Apol.l, p. 96. Ox, Ed, b Jujl. Martyr, p. 278. Sylbur. Edit. c Clem, Alexaml, Padag. 1. i. c. 7. p. 131. d Enfeb. Demonftr. Ev. 1. f. c. 18. e ^uft. Mart, Dial. p. 197. Cyprian, adv. Jud, 1. 2. c 29. p.49>i'o. Ori%. in Matt. p. 4:58. Eufcb, in loc. £ Cyprian, adv. JmU 1. 2. c 6. p. 51". g Juft, Martyr. Dial. p. 1 97. Eufib. in PfaL 2;. p. 91. h Iren. 1. 3. c. 6. p. 180. Cyprian. adv.Jud' 1.2. c. 28. p.48. ■— '!>. de Bono Patietn* p. 210. Enfeb. m F/al. p. 209* Let Qu. II. offome (QUERIES. 31. ^ Let God arife, and let his Enemies^ &a Sing unto God.fing 'Fraifes, &c. PI. 68. 1.4, ^> In Judah is God known, 8cc. Pf. '/6. i. ^ God Jtandeth in the Congregation of the mighty : he judgeth among Gods, Pj! 8x. i. ^ The Lord reigneth Pf. 99. i. e Behold, God is my Salvation : I will truji and not be afraid, for the Lord ^choyzh is my Jirength, 8cc. Ki\.z, ^ Behold your God will come with Ven- geance, even God with a Recommence, He will come and fave you, II! 3 5*. 4. § That ftretcheth out the Heavens like a Curtain, &c. If. 40. 2x. ^^ Thus faith the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and that formed thee. O Ifrael, If 43. r. ^ Thus faith the Lord, the King of liracl, and his redeemer the Lord of hojis ; / am the firf, and I am the laft, and befides me there is no God, If 44. 6. ^ I am the Lord that maketh all Things, that fretcheth forth the Heavens alone, that fpreadeth abroad the Earth by my felfy If; 44. 24. a Cyprian. adv,Jud. \. i» c. 6. c. i8- p. 55", 49- b Iren^us, 1. 3. c. 9, p. 1B4. c Juji. Mart. Dial. p. 177. IrenAUs, I. 3. c 6. p. iSo. Novat, d9 Trin c. 15. Cyprian. adv.Jnd. 1. a. c. 6. p- IJ- £«/• in loc, d fujlin. Martyr, p. 124. e IrenAusy I. 3, c. 2. p. 286. f Irenms, 1. 3. c„ 20. p. 214. Nov at. c. 11. £/>//?. S^/wi. AntiocL liahh. Tom. i. p. 84f. g Htppolyt, Contr.i^o(t» C. 18. p. 19. w-jjI*? *>« Ktcfi^u^xv r ^f^weVo h Eufebms in lou i J^(f§tant. InjUt^ I.4. C9. p. 405-. k EnfikiHs in hf. Surely 33 ^DEFENSE Q^ii. IL ^ Surely God is in thee^ and there is none elfe\ there is no God, II' 45". 14. ^ / will fave them by the Lord their God^ and will not fave them by Bow, 7ior by Sword, Hofca i. 7. ^ The Lord alfo fhall roar out ofSlon, and fitter his voice from Jerulalem, Joel 3. 16. Amos I. 2. ^ Who is a God like unto thee, that far- doneth iniquity Mic. 7. 18. *^ God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount ^.phraim.- Habakuk 3.3. ^ I am God, not Man, Holea 1 1 . 9 . s / will flrengthen them in the Lord,' faith the Lord. Zech. 10. ix. ^^ This is our God, and there jhall none other be accounted of in Comparifon of him, Baruch 3. 35*. The(e feveral Texts, befides others of like Nature, the Ante-Nicene Writers, in general, underflood of Chrift. And therefore it is ex- ceeding clear, that, according to the Dodrine of that Time, the fecond Peribn of the Trinity a Cyprian. ad.JucL 1- 2. c 6. p. 54. Zufeb. Bern. Ev» ]. 5*. c. 4. p. 22 f. La^iant. Epltom. c. 44. p. 116. EdU. Dav» Infiit. p. 404. Edit. Ox.. Epift, Synod. Antioch. Labb. Tom. I, p. 84^. b Novat. Trin. c. 12. c IreuAUs, I.3. c. 20. p.' 214. 1. 4. c. 35. p. 275. d Irenais^ 1. 3. c 20. p. 214. e Iren&ust !. 5. c. 20. p. 214, 1. 4. c 55. p. 173. f Cyprian. Teflim. 1-2. c. 6. p. 3 5". Eufeb» Dem. Ev, I, 5. c. 21. p. 249. Epiji. Synod. Antioch. Labb. Tom. i. p. 845-. g Cyprian. Teft. \.i. c.6. p. 3f. Euf Bern. Ev. 1. 5. c. 26. p. 25-1. Ji Cyprian. Tefi. I 2. C.6. p. 1$, La^mt. £pif, p. 116. Ed. Dav. is Q^u. IL of fome (QUERIES. 3 3 is xS\Q,Lord\ the Lor<^ God\ the Almighty God\ the Lord God of Abraham, Ifaac, and Jacob ; The Jehovah'^ the Lord oiHoJls\ the Mighty God\ the Only God ; and befides whom there is no God\ the God of Ifrael, &c. All this, I lay, Chrift is, according to the Dod:rine of thofe early Times : not exclufive of the Father, any more than the Father is fiich, exclufive of the Son ; but together with the Father : That is, Father and Son Both are the one Supreme God : not one in 'Ferfon, as you frequently and groundlefly infinuate, but in Subftance ^ Fovjer, and TerfeBion. I know» you have an Evafion, by which you hope to elude the force of all that has been urged. But when I have ill own you , how weak and inlufficient your Pretence is; I hope, I lliall hear no more of it. * In another part of your Book, (/. xo.) you pretend that Chrifl: ipak.e only in the Terfon of the Father ; and that when He faid, for in- ftance, I am the God of Bethel, Gen. 31. 13* the meaning is no more than this; Jehovah whom I refrejent, and in whofe Name I fpeak, is the God of Bethel. Had you given it only as your own Interpretation of this, and the like Texts , it might be very excufable : But having told us what you mean by fpeaking in the Terfon of God the Father, you after- wards add, that it was the unanimous Opinion of all Antiquity , that Chrift appear'd and ipake, * Sq^ alfo Clarke's Script. Doftr. ^. xo*. 34 ^ D E F E N S E Qv, IL iu the'Terfon of God the Father (/. ii.) leaving your Engltjh Reader to believe, that your no- vel Explication was the current Dodtrine of all Antiquity. The Thing may be true in fome Senfe, luch as is foreign to your Purpofe: But in jour Senfe, it is nororiouily felfe, as all that have look'd into Antiquity very well know. However, for the Benefit of the common Rea- der, I will lliow that the good Fathers applied thele Texts to Chrift confider'd in his own Terfon ; and not in the Father's only. This fliall be made clear, to a Demonftration, both from, particular Tefiimonies of the lame Fa- thers ; and from the general Scope, Drift, and Defign of thofe Writers, in citing the Texts be- fore mentioned. * Clement oi Alexandria, citmg Exod.zo. z. I am the Lord thy God, &c. and underftand- ing it of Chrift, obierves particularly, thatChrifl faid this of Himlelf, in his own Terfon. \lren£us, having cited Exod. 3.6. {1 am the God of Abraham, and the God of liaac, &c.) which He underftands as fpoken by Chriji ; ■\. goes on thus. *' From hence (Chrift) made ** it plain, that He who fpoke to Mofes out * T\a,Xiv ^v) 'cTut A/y-) 2^2 rS i^'i^ tt^^ut:^^ iocvrov ofJtciXoy.'i 7mia))t- 5ominmi and Authority, but, as God's Son ; and rhat implies, with Novatian^ Siihjtantta Commiiiiionem , real and ejfe^tt'ial Divinity *. I ihall next fliow you the fame of Jujlin Martyr \ and then beg your Pardon for the Impertinence of infifting fo long upon what none, one might think, that has ever feen the Anricnts, couid make the leaft Queftion of *' Permit nie, fays He, to jhow you alfo out ' ' of the Book of Exodus, how the very Jame *' Pcribn, who appeared to Abraham and Ja- '* cob^ as an Angel, and God, and Lord, and *' Man, appear'd to Mofes in a Flame of Fire '* out of the Bufii, and talked with Him. A little after, He adds thefe remarkable WordSo * C 51. Comfare Ch. 11. Ut enim prsefcripfit Ipfa natura Homi- rem credcndum eile, qui ex Homineiit: ita eat\x% fi Angeltis ftiit ; citm non fit hoc nornen Angelis unquam * Other Arguments of the ftricl Senfe of the Word, God, as ufed by the Ante-Nicene Writers^ and applied to the Son, may bt feen ih Dr. Fiddes, p. 374» &c. . «;. . ' con- Q^u.lL of fome (QUERIES. 4t concejfum^l But how jl}^^ is He God, ifm more than^ Angel, fince Angels never had tht. privilege of fo high a Titled Novatian allows: (Ch. 15.), that ^//^r/j- have been called Gi^i/xv meaning in the loolc Figurative Senfe; But here He plainly fignifies that the Word, God, . when applied to the Sony is to be underflood in the llri(ft and proper Senfe : And thus the Anticnts^ in general undcrftood it. Angels^ the vety? highcfl; order of Creatures, were not by them thought worthy of the Name and Title of G^eus^ qui vldebatur, T>el Flllus. Which might have been rendred thus: "- The Son of God who ap- " peared, He was God (aSing) in his (the Fa- ** ther's) Name, and with his Authority. And had you bur cited the next immediate Words, you might have difcovered the true meaning of that PafTage. Sed ® penes nos, Chrljius in perfona Chrifii, quia omi- E % niofi 5X ^DEFENSE Qjj, IIL nio7i to make H'mi fo. He thought of Strength invincible, and Power irrcfiftible : and God was pleas'd to convince Him of his Folly and Vanity, not by telling Him how fcanry his Tiomtnion was, or how low his Office-^ but how weak, frail, and perifliing his iV^/'/zr^ was ; that He was Man only^ and not G*od, v. x. 9. and ihould iiirely find lo by the Event. When the Lycaonians, upon the fight of a Miracle wrought by St. Taul, A6ts 14. 11. took Him and Barnabas for Gods ; They did not think fo much of dominion, as of Toiz'ery and Abi- lity, beyond Human : And when the Apoltles anfwer'd them, they did not tell them that their "Dominion was -^only Human ; or that their Ojfice was nor Divine-^ but that they had not a divine Nature : They were weak, frail, and feeble Men ; of like Infirmities with the reft of their Species, and therefore no Gods. If we trace the Scripture-Notion of one that is truly and poperly God; we iliall find it made up of thefe ieveralldeas; Infinite Wifdom, Power invincible, All-fufficiency, and the hke. Thefe are the Ground and Foundation of Do- minions which is but a fecondary Notion, aCon- fequence of the Former : And it muft be Domi- nion Supreme, and none elfe, which will fuit with the Scripture-Notion of God. It is not that of a Governor^ a Ruler , a TroteStor^ a Lord, ox the like; but a yS-L'^r^ig;;/ Ruler, an al- mighty Protedor, an omnifcient and omnifrefent Cover- Qjj. Ill of fime (QUERIES. 5-3 Governor. An eternal, immutable, all-fufficient Creator, Treferver, and TroteBor, Whatever falls ihort of this, is Viox properly , in the Scri- pture-Norion , God\ but is only called fo by way of Figure ; as has before been explained. Now, if yon ask me why the relative Terms may properly be applied to the Word God^ the reaibn is plain; becaufe there is fbmething re- lative in the "ujhole Idea of God; namely, the notion of Governor, Trotecior, &c. If you ask why they cannot {o properly be applied to the Word, God, in the fnetaphyjical Senfe ; be- fide the reafon before given, there is another as plain ; becaufe Metaphyficks take in only part of the Idea, confider the Nature ab- ftraded from the Relation, leaving the rela- tive Part out. From what hath been laid, it may appear how ufelels and infignificant your Diftindion is, of a fttpreme and a fiihordinate God. For, not to mention that this muft unavoidably run you into Tolytheifm, and bring you to afTert more Gods than one, contrary to the whole Tenor of Holy Scripture; which is an * inluperable Objecftion to your Hypo- the/is ; I fay , not to mention this at pre- fent, your Hypothefis is built upon a filfe Ground, as if any thing could he properh God^ that is not Supreme, Supreme, m the itrid: * See what Dr. Bennet has very -s^ell urged u^on this Head: Diic. of the H. Trin. p. 178, &c. E 3 Senfe, j4 ^DEFENSE Qjj. III. Senfe, fuppofcs for irs ground all the eflential Properties of one truly and froperly God, as delcribed in Scripture. Another God after this, is no God\ becaufe Scripture makes but one \ befide? that an * inferior God is only God im- froperlyy and fo called by way of Figure, or in fome particular reipedt: So that at length your famed DiftincSion of a fitpreme and jub- ordinate God, refoives into a God, and no God, The Queftion then, between us, is, whether Chrift be God j>roperly, or improperly lb call- ed ; that is, whether He be God, or no. Your Arguments to prove Him a fuhordinate God only, 1 iliall look upon as fo many Arguments againfl: his T)ivinity ; and as defign'd to prove that He is not God. You cite Job. lo. 35-, 36. If He called them Gods, to whom the word of God came, and Scripture cannot be broken ; Say ye of Him, whom the Father hath fanfiified, and fent into the World, Thou blafphemeft, becaufe I /aid, 1 am the Son of God? From hence you * Neque enim proxinii erimiis opinionibus Nationum, o^\ix fi quandj coguntur Deum confiteri, tamen 8c Alios infra lilum volant. Divinitas autem gradum non haher, utpote unica. TertulL adv^ Her-mog. c. 7. p. 236. Deus non erit dicendus, quia nee creden- dus. mil Summum magnum. Ncga Deum, qu,em dicis deteriorem- Tertul. Cor.tr. Marc 1. 1. c. 6- Qui fupcr fe hibet Aliquem Superiorem, 6c fub Alterius po- teftatc efl j Hie neque Deus» neque Magnus Rex dici poteft. IreN. 1. 4, c. z. p. 229. Unus igifur Omnium Dominus eft Deus. Neque enim ilia fub- limitas poreft habere Confortem, cum Sola omnium teneat po- teftatem. <>//*• iie Idol* Van. p^ 14. Ox. Edit, endea- Qjj, III of fome Q^UERIES. 5-5 endeavor to prove, thic Chrifl: is Godm rhe fubordinate Scnle only ; that is, as I have faid, i\ox. properly or truly God. But I can fee no manner of ground for this Inference from the Words before us. Our BlefTcd Lord had in- finuated that He was really and truly GoA% but had not afferted it in plain and 6'A^r^yj- Terras : Upon this bare innuendo, the Je^uus charge Him with A'wQ&iBlafphemy : He, to evade their Ma- hce and to keep to rhe Truth, neither affirms, nor denies that He meant it in the Senfe which thsy appreliendcd. However, his Difcourfe be- ing in general Terms, and not expHcite enough to found a charge of Biafphemy upon, He ap- peals to their Law, in order to Ihow, that it is not z\\Yzys>Bla/pbemy, to make one's felf God, or to apply the Title of God, even to mortal Men, and Men inferior to Himlelf, conftdered only as Man. This was anlwer iufficient to Them ; who could not from his own Expref fions clearly convid: Him of meaning more, than that He w^as God in the hnproper Senfe of the Word, as it had been ulcd, Tfal. 8z. 6. Neverrhelcfs, He leaves the point of his Tiivi- /^/'y undecided ; or rather, ftiU goes on to wx- flnuate, in Words which they could not dircdt- ly lay hold on, the very Thing which they charged Him with. This enraged them fo tnnch the more: and therefore they 2.o^v.x\ fought to take Him, v. 39. But He efcaped out of their Hand. This Interpretation may luffice to take off the force of your Argument. Yet , the E 4 V/oids ^6 ^DEFENSE Q^lt. III. Words may admit of other, and perhaps better Interpretations, confident with the Principles which I here maintain *. Vou proceed to QitQ Heb.i.%,^. and argue thus: He who being God, calls another his God, and is fanEiified by Him, muji needs be God in a fiibordinate Senfe ; that is , God improperly ib called, or no God. To an old Objection, I might return an old Anfwer, in the words of Hilary, or words to the fame Effed:. •* fThis may fignify only his Subordination, as *'. a Son, or as God of God, without any In- ^' feriority of Nature. The Father is his God, *' as He is God by being begotten of Him. This An(\vcr is dired: and full, upon the Sup- poHrion that the Text cited i.> meant of the divine Nature of Chrifl: , or of Chrifl: in his higheft Capacity. Bat if it be meant, as | pro- bably it may, of his human Nature only, there is no weight in the Ob>cd:ion. As to the Son's being fanciified, I iliould hardly have thought it of any Importance to the Caufc, had it not been twice infilled on by you. May not the Father dcfign, appoint » confeci'ate his Son, confider'd in either Capacity, ip the Office of Mediator, without liiipportng Him of a different and inferior Nature to Him ? Or, luppofe. the fanciifying may be meant of *^ See True Script. Doftr. continued, />. 178. f Ad Nativitatem referturj caeterum non perimit Naturamj & jdcirco Deus ejus eft. quia ex eo natus in Deum eft. H'd. de Tr'm, !. 4. c. 3f. p. 848. ■^ Ss« Bennet. Difcourfe on the Trin. j&. 3i> 3 J» Sec. the Qjj, III. offime (QUERIES. ^7 the human Nature, which the Father has fanfti- fied, by uniting it to theAoy©^; what force will there remain in your Objed:ion ? Having anfwer'd your Pleas and Pretences for a fu^or- d'lnate God, I proceed to Ihow that Chrift is not called God in a fubordinate, or improper Senfc ; but in the fame Senfe, and in as high a Senfe, as the Father Himlelf is lo (liled. I. Becaufe He is called the Jehovah, which is a word of abjolute Signification, and is the incommunicable Name of the one true God. * He is, very probably, called Jehovah, Luk. 1. 16, 17. many ihall He (viz. John theBaptift) turn to the Lord their God, and He ihall go before Him, The Dodor owns that, /;/ ftriM- nefs ofConJtruifion, the words {the Lord their God) mufl: be undcrftood of Chrift. And there- fore Chrift is Lord God, or Jehovah Elohim^ which comes to the lame. He is likewife called the Lord God of the Prophets, as appears from Rev. %2. 6. com- pared with V.16, of the fame Chapter. This may be firther confirmed by comparing the Texts following. * See this Text excellently defended and tllujirated in True Scripture Dodr. continu'd, />. I32, 135, O''^- Of 58 A D.E F E N S E Q^u. HI. Of old haft thou laid the Foundation of the Earth, PI.' 102. 25-. &:c. Addrefs'd to the 7^- hovah. And the Lord ( Je- hovah ) faid unto me : Caft it unto the Tot- ter ; a goodly price that I was prtfed at of them ^ Zech. r r . 1 1. They /hall look on me (Jehovah Ipeaking by the Prophet) whom they have pierced , Zech. IX. 10. The Voice of Him that crieth in the fVil- dernefs.prepare ye the way of the Lord ( Je- hovah) If 40, 3. The Lord faid , I will have mercy on the Houfe of Jiidah , and will fave them by the Lord (Jehovah) their God, Hori.7. ^ Thou Lord, in the beginning haft laid the Foundations of the Earth, Heb. i.io. ^ Then was fulfilled^ That which was Jpo- ken , &c. Match. 27, 9, 10. Another Scripture faith. They ftoall look on Him ( Jefas Chrift) whom they have pier- ced, Joh. 19.37. ^ The Voice of one crying in the Wilder- nefs, prepare ye the way of the Lord, Mar. I. 3. . is born in the City of David , a Sa- vior, which is Chrift the Lord, Luk. 2.11. a See Surenhufiii Conciliation, in loc. p. 600. b Surenhuf. in loc. p. 280. c Surei.huf. in Matt. 3. 3. p. 207. I refer to this Author, to ob' •viate the pre/ e ice, that thefe Texts might he Hnderjloodj only by way of AccommoJation. I have Qjj, III. of fome (QUERIES. 5-9 I have produced the Texts again, in order to take notice of the very pecuhar way, which you have of evading. It is your avowed Prin- ciple, that Chrift is not Jehovah in his own Perlbn, {p. 24.) and elfewhcre: and that the 'Per/on called Jehovah is the Father on/y. What then inuft be i'aid to theie Texts, which are ib very plain and cxprels to the contrary ; infomuch that *Dr. Clarke Himielf owns, that the name Jehovah is given to that vifible Terfon (meaning Chrift) "uuho appeared as re* prefenting the "Per [on of the invifible God% He does not fay, it was given to the Perfon reprefhited only, but to the Perlbn reprefent- ing alio ; which you fcem to deny. But you confound your ielf with your f own Comment upon Hoi. I. 7. {Jehovah vjould fave them by Jehovah their God) That is, lay you, that Jehovah himfe If -would fave them, but not in his own Perfon. Well then ; it is by another Perfon, which Perfon the Text exprefly calls Jehovah. Upon2^ech. ix. 10. compared with Joh 19.37. you Comment thus (/. %6.) The Sufferings of Chrift might well be called the Sufferings of Jehovah, being pierced in Effigie in his Son^ who is the exprefs hnage of his Perfon. What a fanciful Turn is here, meerly to elude the force of plain Scripture. Say rather, that fince Chrift is the Effigies, the exprefs Image of the Father, He might juftly be called Je- * B.(ply, p. 1^3. t P- 2^. hovahy 6o ^DEFENSE Qjj. Ill hovah, which indeed He is, as well as the Fa- ther. I Ihall dwell no lon2;cr on lb clear and indifputable a Point. What you hint, that the Father and Son cannot both be Jehovah, or as you exprefs it, one individual Being, meaning oiieVerfon, is hardly delerving Notice; becaule it is nothing but playing with the word indi- "uidual'^ and difputing againft no Body : cither take the word in our Senie of it, or pretend not that you oppoie us, Ic has been obferved above, that Antiquity is every where full and exprefs in this Matter ; never queftioning, but conftantly afTerting, that the Son is Jehovah ; and fo called, in Scripture, in his own Terfon, and in his own right ,'2c^ Co effential Son of God. The next Thing which I have to oblerve, is, that Jehovah is a word of abfolute Significa- tion. The relative Terms do not fuit with it, as with the other. We do not read my Je- hovah, or your Jehovah, or the Jehovah of Ifrael ; as is pertinently remark'd by a learned * Gentleman ; and the fame Gentleman obferves, that it is fometimes render'd by ®ih, or God: from whence we may jaft take notice, by the way, that the word 0. 134. f Sue this proved in the Appendix to the Confiderations on Mr, Whidon'j WJior, Fref. p. 101. and Qjj. Hi. offome QUERIES. 6t and the * Authoricies of the bed Criticks in this Cafe. V/hat you have to objcd: againfl it, iliall be here examined, with all convenient Brevity. f You make the Import of the Name Jehovah to be, giving Being to (i.e. Performing) bis ^Promifes. For Realons beft kn^^" -^ ^o vour Self, you flip over Exod. 3. ^^ 14 j -a Iv ii might probably give us the moll: Liyht mo ihe Matter; and chuie to found all your Region- ings upon Exod. 6. z,^, &c. an obfcurc Place, on which you have made almofl: as obfcure a Comment. The Words are, 1 am the Lord (Jehovah) and I appeared unto Abr:ih2im. unto liaac, and nnto Jacob, by the Name of God Ahnighty (El Shaddai) but by my Name Je* hovah, iji)as I not known unto them. You do not, I prelume, fo underftand this Text, as if this was the firlT: Time that God re- vealed Himfelf by the Name Jehovah, That He had done before, Exod. 3. 14. And even long before that, to Ahram,, Gen. 15-. 7. And Abram had addreis'd Him under that Name, fooner, Gen.i^.z. Nay, it may be run up yet higher, even to Adam and Eve, Gen. 4. i.\. Your meaning therefore, I fuppoie, muft be, * S(i9 the Authorities cited in the fecorul IP art cf the Coniider.itions by the farm Author, p. 2, 3. And refer' d to in True Scripture Dodr. continu'd, p. 135, 134. j- p. 19. ■^ M. Le Citrc thinks that all this may be folved by a Prolepfis, Com. in Exod. 3. v. ly. To which it is /efficient to An/wer, that it tr^ay be othirwife ; and that it is highly improbable, that Mofes, who was particularly careful not to introduce the Name of Abiaham and Sarah, before the proper Time, fl)oitld mt be as careful in refpe^ of 4 more venerable Name, thi Name of God Himfelf, that 6z ^DEFENSE Q^u. Ill that God had given many Inftances of his ^o\Jirr before, conformable to his Name El Shaddai: But now, He was to give them In- ftances of his Veracity and Conjiancy in per- forming "Tromifes, conformable to his Name Jehovah. This, I think, either is, or iliould be your vSenie of this oblcure Paflage. That it is nor the true Senle of the Place, is next to be lliovvn. I. It appears to be a very ftrain'd and remote Interpretation. The primary Signification of Jehovah, is Being, by your own ConfefTion, and as all know, that know any thing : and the moft obvious reafbn of the Name, is, that God is Being it fclf\ neccilarily exifting, indepen- dent, immutable, always the fame; According to that of Mai 1.6. 1 am the L^r^ (Jehovah) / change not. Afcer this, in the natural Order* He may be conftdered as the Fountain of Be- ing, or giving Being to all other Things : So that this leeais bur a fecondary Notion of Je- hovah. Yours is more remote (till: it \% giving Being, nor to the World, to Angels, or to Men ; But to Words and Tromi/es ; that is, fulfilling Them. And this metaphorical Senfe of, giving Being, you would put upon us, for the profer and JpeCial import of the Name Jehovah, exprefiiiig Being. Who does not fee that this is drained and Far fetch'd? %. The Rea/on which you aflign for this Interpretation, is as lame as the Interpretation it felf God^ it feems, was now coming to fulfil C^u. III. of Jbme Q^UERIES. 63 fulfil the promife made to Abraham ; and tLci e- fore reminds his People of the Napje Jehovah-, as importing one faithful and puncSual to his Word. Bur what if Jehovah ihould import one eternal and hiimiitable God , the Jkme yejierday, to day, and for ever -^ m'ghr nor the Confideration thereof be very proper to raife in Men's minds the greateft Confidcn*.e and AiTurance imnginable, that He fliould never fail of his Word? 3. Befides, what Account will you give of many other Places of Scripture, where God re- minds his People, that He is Jehovah ; and where there is no Reference at all, 10 promifes^ or the like ? Thus, in this very Chapter, Exod. 6. 3^. I am the Lord: (Jehovah) ffeak thou unto Pharaoh King of Egypt all that I fay unto Thee. Again ; Againjl all the Gods ^/^ Egypt, / VDill execute Judgntent ; / am Jehovah , Exod. 12.12. None of you fioall a])proach to any that is near of Kin to Him / am Jehovah, Lev. 18.6. I am the Lord {]t\\oY2i\\) that is my Name, and my Glory will I not give to another ; neither 7ny f raife to graven Images, If 42, 8. * many more Places of like nature might be cited. But I chufe to refer you to a Concordance for them. What I intend from * Moiif. Le Clcrc, upon the Place, en^eavorf by ^li'irk and Sub- tdty to turn Jevend Fajfages, -wherein ihe [ehovah is mention d, to ene particular Senfe, in favour of the Sabellians. But that Author, and his Manner are well hiown, and with what Byafs he writes. The verj Inftanses which He kings ar$ enotigh t§ fonfute Him. them 64 ^DEFENSE Qu. HI. them is this; that if your's be the true Account of the Ipecial Import of the Name Jehovah, it will be hard to find any Senfe, or Pertinency in thole, or other frequent Repetitions of ir. But underftanding the Word, as it has been ge- nerally underftood by Perfons of the greateft Learning and Judgment, ail is clear , pertinent^ and confijient. But, you will fay, why then docs God ^o particularly take notice, that by his name Je- hovah, He was not known to Abraham^ I/aac^ and Jacobs Exod. 6. 3. did not they know Him, and worihip Him, as the true, eternal, independent, immutable God, the Creator of all Things? Yes, certainly they did, and un- der the Name Jehovah too ; and probably un- derftood the import of it. The mofl: probable Solution of the whole Difficulty is this; that the V/ords, in the latter part of the Text, ought to be underftood by way of Interro- gation, thus : But by my name Jehovah, was I not alfo known unto them ? That gre^t and venerable Name, which exprefles more than El-Shaddai, or any other Name, and which I have cholen for my memorial to all Generations ? If you pleafe to confult the Criticks, you will find this Interpretation fuppofted by fuch Reafbns as will bear Examining. It has been obfervedby the Learned, that fome of the Gr^^^ Writers read the Words, ^ ri mixiu fxa^ Kt^gi©-, iHhoDQJx. cLxjiiii, That is, fny name, Jehovah, / made Qu. Ill of fome Q^UERIES. 6^ inade known unto them ; which Interpretation is Hkewife favoured by the jirabkk Verjion, This, at lead, we may iay ; that from a PaC fage fo obfcure, and capable of icveral Con- ftrudtions, no certain Argument can be drawn, for the fpccial import of the Word Jehovah^ in oppofition to the belt Cnticks in the Lan» guage, whether Anrient or Modern. Now, to refume the Thread of our Argument; fince it appears that Chrift is, in his own proper Per- fon, called Jehovah, a Word of abiblute Signi- fication, expreffing the divine Nature or Ef- fence ; it muft follow that He is God, ftridly lb called ; and not in the relative or improper Senie, as is pretended. This will appear farther, if \x. be confider'd that Jehovah is the incommunicable Name of the one true God, This may be proved from * feveral Texts, which I iliall only point to ia the Margin; referring you to fa learned Author, who has abundantly made good the AiTertion. I may remark that this and the foregoing Ob- fervation ferve to fupport and confirm each other : For , if Jehovah fignify the eternal immutable God, it is manifcTl that the Name is incommunicable, fmce there is but one God: and if the Name be incommttnicable, then Je- hovah can fignify nothing but that one God to whom, and to whom only, it is applied» And * Exod. 3. 14, 15. Deut.a(5. 17, 18. Pfal. 83. i8. Ifa. 41. 8. Flofea 12. 5-. f id Letter t$ tht Author p//^eHiIlory of MontaniTan, ;•. ^, &c. F if 66 ^DEFENSE Q^u. III. if both thefe Parts be true, and it be true like- wife, that this Name is applied to Chrifl: ; the Conlequence is irrefiflible , that Chrifl: is the fame one God ; not the fame Pcrfon with the Father, to whom alio the Name Jehovah is attributed, but the feme Subjiance, tho lame Being, in a Word, the fame Jehovah ; thus revealed to be more Perlbns than one. So much for my firfl: Argument to prove that the Word, God, when applied to the Father and Son, in Scripture, does not bear a double Mean- ing, one ^rofer, and the other improper ; but is to be underftood in one and the lame true ^nA proper Senle, in relped: of Both. X. My fecond Argument for it ill all be from Joh i. i. purfuant to the Words of the Query. In the beginning was the V/ord, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, V. I. All Things were made by Him, &c. V. 3. Here, wc find the Son exprefly called God: And the only Qiieftion is, whether in a proper, cr improper Senle. The Circumfl:ances of the place muft determine us in this Enquiry. Here are Three Marks to diredt us how to form a Judgment, i. The word 0^05, God, is ufed in a proper Senfe in the very fame Verle. 1, The word was God in the Beginning, that is, before the Creation. 3 . The Work of Creation is attributed to Him. I fay, firfl:, the word 0eo5j God, is once ufed, in ^proper Senfe, in the very lameVerfe. I have before fliown^ chat the preceiided re la- five Qjj. III. of fame (QUERIES. 67 live Senfe is only an improper and figurative Senle of the word God, according to the Scri- pture-Notion of it; and therefore, certainly. That cannor be the meaning of it here, being apphed to the Father, who, without diipute, \% properly God. Befides, that fdice /j?i;/^, which F ^ fignifie^ 68 ^DEFENSE Q^u. III. fignifies lb little, as either to prove too much, or to prove nothing. Could you fliow that 0ec$ without the Article, was always taken in a relative, or mf roper Scnie, you would do Ibmething. All that you attempt to fliow, is, that 0 0eo5 is no where, in the New Teftament, predicated of the Word, in an abfolute Con- ftrudion: And what if it is not? Then, it is not : For, that is all you can make of it. (dm without the Article in many Places, confefled- ly, means as much as 0ei$ with the Article; which is enough for our purpofe. Or, admit- ting that there is fome reafon and fignificancy in it, that the Son is not ftiled o 0e55 in an ab- folute Conftrudion, but that the Title is gene- rally referved to the Father, as the Title, o notTrip > all that it fignifies, is, that the firft Perfon of the Holy Trinity is eminently diftinguifli'd by an Article; but not that the Addition, or the OmifTion, of an Article makes any Altera- tion in the Senfe of the word 0eo^^ You lay, that three of the moji learned Ante-Nicene Greek Fathers infijl upon this Remark, about the Article. * Clemens of Alexandi^ia, '■' * Clem. Alex. Stron).3. p. f48- Ed. Ox. Clemens does not make his Remark on Joh. i. i. nor does He mention, that the Arttclc is put to tliftinguifh the Father's Supereminent dignity cf Nature abote tha Son; As your Reader, or perhaps your Self, might imagine. His dejign vpas cnly to prove, againji Tatian, that the True God {and not the Devil) Vpas the Author of Conjugal Procreation i for rohich He cites Gen. 4. 25-. obferving, that ©205 in that Place has the Article 0 before iti and therefore mufl be unaerjlood of the True God, the TrnvTOK^Tuf* :By the very fams Rtile, Chrijl wufi be True God, in the fame Senfe, according to Clenienj. Ui tt » ©«cf. See p. 72. 131. 2/i. 17 5 » * Origen, Qy, III. offop^e (QUERIES. 69 * Origen, and f Eufebiits. But what do they gather from it, or what do they mean by it ? Do they mean that the Son is not God in the proper Senle ? nothing hke it. Do they mean that the Article can never be properly applied when the Son '\s> fpoken of, or that the Scripture oblerves it as an invariable Rule? That does not appear, but rather the Contrary. For, they underflood many Texts of the Old Tefta- ment , where ^»7' Ifa. 45". XI, X3. I Cor. lo. 9. f Rom. 14. 1 1. "Phil. X. ro. I had almofl: forgot to take notice of one Pretence more you have, for the fubordinate Senfe of ©eo^j in Job.i.i. You word it thus, (/.41.) He who is God^ and at the fame time ii with God who begat Him, muji needs be God in a different meaning ; unlefs the fame =* S^e this more fully eicpU'tn'd And iUtiflrated in Dr» Fiddc&s Body of Divinity, Vol. i. p. 383, &c. and 597, &c. f Vid. Surenhuf. Conciliation, p. ^u* 09^ Qjj. Ill of fome (QUERIES. 71 God could be with Himfelf, ^c. To this it is readily anfwcr'd, that being with God is the fame as being with the Father^ (Comp. i Joh. i.x.) who is God, ^x\^ eminently fo ftiled, as being firft in Order *. If He were not always with Him, and inleparable from Him, He could not be God in a proper Senfe. God and God, or God of God, fuppofcs two Terfons\ and therefore there is no Foundation for the Ob- jedion of the Son's being with Himfelf. Hav- ing thus endeavored to obviate your Exceptions, I now proceed in the Proof of my Pofition. The fVordxs, here (in Joh. i. i.) faid to have been God in the Beginning, that is, before the Creation ; from whence it is farther probable that He is God, in the Jfri^ and proper Senfe. This Circumftance may at lead be fufficient to convince you, that the relative Senfe, which you contend for, is not applicable. He could have no Relation to the Creatures before they were made ; no T)ominion over them when they were not : And therefore could not be God in the Senfe of T>ominion, or Office. But what moft of all deraonftrates the Word to be here called God in the proper Senfe, is, that the Creation of all Things is afcribed to Him. * There is no i/uonJiJle)2cy in admitting a- Priority of Order, and yet denying the Son to be God in a fubordinate, or improper Senfe. There WAS a Priority of Order, in refpe£i of Adam and Seth: and yet Seth was not Man in a Subordinate Senfe, but in the fame Senfe as Adam was, I ufe not the Similitude, as if it would anfwer in other refpecis : but it may ferve fo far, to illuflrate my meaning j which is fufficient. See Expofit. Fid. attributed to Juftin. Mart. />. 2^3. Sylb, Ed, F 4 Crea- 71 ^DEFENSE Qjj. III. Creation is an indiiputable Mark of the one true God ; the * diftinguifliing Charader by which He was to be known, and for which He was to be reverenc'd above all Gods ; and on t Account of which. He claims to Himfelf all Homage, Worlliip, and Adoration. But of this I ihali have occafion to lay more hereafter, and therefore fliall difmiis it for the prefent. I muft not forget to add, that, befides what I have here urged, by virtue alio of what hath been proved under Query the firft, I may come at my Con- clufion. For, no Queftion can be made but that the Word is called God, by St. John, in a higher Senfe than any nominal God can pre- tend to. And therefore, fmce He is not ex- cluded with the nominal Gods, He is included and comprehended in the one fupreme God; and conlequently, is coeternal and coeflential with the Father. Enough hath been faid in Vindication of the Argument contained in this Query : and fo now I return it upon you {land- ing in full force ; and exped:ing a more com- pleat, and more fatisfadlory Anlwen * Jerem. lo. ii. f Rev- 4* «o- is- Query Qjj. IV. offome Q^UERIES. 73 Q^ U E R Y IV. JVh ether, fufpojing the Scripttire-Notion of God to be no more than that of the Au- thor and Governor of the 1)niverfe , or whatever it be, the admitting of Ano^ ther to be Author and Governor of the Univerfe, be not admitting another God; contrary to the Texts before cited from Haiah; and alfo to ir42. 8.-48. 11. where He declares^ He will not give his Glory to Another? YOUR Anfvver is {p. 42.) Suppofing the revealed Senfe of the Word, God, to imply Dominion, and that He is the Author and Governor of the Univerfe, the admitting ^ Second Perfon, diftinEi from the one fupreme God. to he Author and Governor, doth by no means contradiB the ^ajfages cited from Ifaiab, or any Other, or introduce two Gods^ viz. two fnpreme Beings, or Terfons. Give me leave to produce the Texts of Ijaiah once more ; and to place others in an oppofite Co- lumn to them, only mutatis mutandis^ putting Author and Governor of the Univerfe in- flead of the Word, God\ which, with you, amounts to the fame. I am 74 ^DEFENSE Qy. lY. I am the Lord, and there is none elfe-, there is no Author and Governor of the Uni- v^rkbejidesme, 1^45". 5". Is there an Author and Governor of the Univerle befides me ? yea, there is no Au- thor, ^c. befides me, Ifa. 44. 8. The IVord was Au- thor and Governor of the Univerfe, J oh. r. i. Chrift came, who is over all. Author and Governor of the Uni- verfe, blejfed for ever, Rom. 9. 5-. I hope you fee plainly how the Texts, in the two oppofite Columns, confront and con- tradicSt each other ; and that two Authors and Governors of the Univerfe, whom you fup- pofe two diftind: feparate Beings, are as plainly two Gods, as if it were faid fb in Terms. For, indeed, there's no Difference more than that of putting the T>efinition for the Thing defined. But you have an Evafion after ; That They are not two fupreme Beings. And what \? They are not? Are They not ftill two Authors and Governors of the Univerfe ? And is not every fuch Author and Governor, by your own Ac- count, a God ? This pretence then comes too late. Or admitting that Supreme mufi: be add- ed to Author and Governor, to make a true Definition of God ; then Author and Go- vernor of the Univerfe , without Supreme, is not fufficient to denominate a Perfon God ; and Qy, IV. of fome (QUERIES. yf and fo you ungod the Second Perfon ; and what you gave with one Hand, you take away with the other. What you fliould have laid, is, (for it is what you really mean) that there are two Gods '^ one Supreme, and the other Subordi- nate: Which being a Propofition utterly re- pugnant to the Texts of Ifaiah, and to the whole Tenor of Scripture, and to all Antiquity, you do not, I fuppofe, care to fpeak it at length. I have before endeavoured to expofe this no- tion of two Gods ; one Supreme, and the oxhtr Inferior \ and have Ihown it to be unrea- fonable and unfcriptural. I may add, that if there really be two Gods, {Supreme and In- ferior) in the proper Scriptural Senfe of the Word, the Good Fathers of the three firfl: Cen- turies argued againft the Heathen T^olytheifm upon a very falfe Principle, and died Martyrs for an Error ; the Angel in the Revelations may Teem to have impoied upon St. John with an erroreous Maxim, Rev, 19. 10. our Savior's Anivver to the Devil to have been defedive, and not pertinent, Luk. 4. 8. and the many Declarations of the Unity Icattered throiigli the Old Teftament to be unintelligible and infignificant. But this fliall be more di(lind:ly explained, when I come to the Argument con- cerning Worfliip. Here let me only ask you, where does the Scripture give you the leafl Intimation of two true Gods? Where does it furniili you with 76 ^DEFENSE Q^u. IV. with any ground for the Diftindion of a 4^^?- veraign and an Inferior Deity ? What Foun- dation can you find for adding Supreme where- ever the Scripture lays abfolutely there is but one God ? You are apt to complain of us , for adding to the Text; and for pretending to fpeak plainer than the Holy Spirit has did:ated ; why do you add here, without any Warrant? If the Sacred Writers intended to limit the Senfe by Stifreme, why could not They, in one place at leaft, among many, have laid lb, and have told it us as plainly as Dr. Clarke and you do? I argue indeed here ad Homlnem only ; and let it have juft as much force with you, as the fame way of Arguing, when you take it up in your turn, ought to have with us. But farther; what account can you give of your leaving Room for inferior deities, when the Reafbn of the thing, the drift Icope and defign of the Scripture feems plainly to have been to exclude, not other Sti- fremes only, or other Independent Deities (which few have been weak enough to fuppofe) but other lejfer, inferior, and dependent Divi- nities? Befides, God has declared that He will not give his Glory to another. If 42. 8.-48. 11. This you fay has no difficulty. How lb, I be- leech you.? It feems to me a very great dif- ficulty in your Scheme. You add, that his Glory isy his being the one fiipreme independent Caufe and Original of all Things or Beings, Now, I thought it was his peculiar Glory to be Qjj. IV. offome QUERIES. 77 be truly God, and to be acknowledged as fuch, exclufive of other Gods. This, 1 am fure, is what the one God inculcates and infifts upon, very particularly, in the Old Teftament. He difcovers Himfelf to be a jealous God , and looks upon it as the higheft Indignity to have any admitted as Partners and Sharers with Hin). All A(3:s of Worlliip, all Homage, Service, Adoration, and Sacrifice, He claims, He chal- lenges as his due ; and due to Him only ; and that becaule He only is God. Now put the Cafe o{ another God\ another j4uthor and Go- vernor of the ^niverfe: That other will have a Share, and divide, tho' unequally, with Him in Glory. Was this then the meaning of 7/2?. 4x. 8. 1 will not give All my Glory to anotherl I will have zhQ greater Share in every Thing? How confident might this be with the Worfhip of inferior Deities, or with the ranked Toly- theifra ? For many of the Pagans themfelves paid their higheft Veneration to the one fu- premeGod ; only they defiled his Worfliip with a multitude of inferior Deities ; they gave not God the fole Glory; but admitted others as Sharers and Partners with Him. You add, that whatever divine Honour is jtijlly given to any other , redounds ultimately to the Glory of Him, who commanded it to be given. But what if God, who beft knows what re- dounds to his Glory, has already and before- hand engrofs'd all divine Honour to Himfelf, as being the only God, and the fole Author and 78 ^DEFENSE Q^u. IV. and Governor of the Univerfe ? Then all others are precluded from receiviBg any divine Honour-^ and there's no more Room left for God's commanding it, than there is for his con- fronting and contradid:ing Himlelf But more of this hereafter, under the Head of IVorjhip, I Ihall dole this Article with Grotius's Com- ment upon the Text which we have been con- fidering. The meaning of it \s, fays He, *' * That God will take fevere Vengeance on *' thole who give that Name which belongs to *' Him, to Bel, Nebo, Merodach, and Others, " which by Nature are no Gods, * Vult enim dicere, fe Vjndicaturum fevere in Eos qui Nomen, quod Ipfius eft, dant Belo^ Nebo.ni, Meraducho, Sc Aliis T^r^ ^^ Q^UERY Qu. V. of fome Q^UERIES. 7? Q^ U E R Y V. Whether T>r, ClarkeV pretence, that the Au- thority of Father and Son being One, tho^ They are two dtflin^i Beings, makes Them not to he two Gods , As a King upon the Throne and his Son adminiftring the Father's Government, are not two Kings ; be not tri- fling and inconflfient ? For, if the King's Son be not a King, He cannot truly be call- ed King ; // He is , then there are two Kings. So, if the Son be not God /;/ the Scripture-Notion of God, He cannot truly be called God ; and then how is the T^o6ior conflftent with Scripture, or with Himfelfi But if the Son be truly God, there are two Gods upon the "Dolor's Hypothefis, as plain- ly as that one and one are Two : And fo all the Texts of Kaiah cited above, befides others, ft and full and clear againft the "Dolor's Notion, YO U truft, it feems, that upon a fecond Confideration of this fifth Query, The Ob- je^or himfelf 'u;/// not think it very pertinent or conclufive. But I can fee no Reafon for your being fo fanguine upon it. For, as an Argument fo plain and ftrong, needs not fo much as a fecond Confideration ; fo if the Objedor were to confider it ever fo often, He could not but chink ic to be, as He finds ix^ both 8o ^DEFENSE Q^u. V both very pertinent and very conclufive. You add, t\\2iX,He "x^ill not ask, a fecond Time, whe- ther one divine Terfon exerclfing the Au- thority of another, to whom He is fubordi- fiate^ and by whom He is fent, proves that the two Verfons are two Gods. But let me intreat you, in a Subjed: of this Importance, not to trifle at this rate; talking backwards and forwards, faying and unfaying, afierting and then recanting, and contradicting your i^t What is Dr. Clarke^ Intention, and what is your's, in infifting lb much on the re- lative Senfe of the word God, but to find a falvo for the divinity of the Son ; that He may be acknowledged, confiftently with your Hypothefis, to be truly, really, properly God? Read but over again what you your ielf have written {p. 113.) and then deny this if you can. Well then ; if the Son, a diftind: feparate Being, be truly and really God ; and if the Father be fo too, what can be plainer than that there are, upon your Hypothefis, two Gods? But you fay, one is Supreme, the other Sub- ordinate. I underftand it ; I confidcr it : And do not you allow that a fubordlnate Being may ht properly God? Do not you exprefly plead and contend for it? Is it not ejjentlal in Dr. Clarke's Scheme, and Your's too ? What mean you then to deny that there are two Gods? Can you deny it, without recanting all that you had laid before ; without ftriking out every fubor- dinate Being, from being truly and properly iltod God 5 Q^u. V. of fome (QUERIES. 8i God, without difowning the very Principle up- on which you affert the Son to be God\ in Jiiorc, without manifcftly confronting and con- demning your iclt ? I do not charge you with aflerting two Jttprcme Gods ; But I do charge you with holding two Gods, one iy/z/rc.'/^^, ano- ther 7;//^^76/r ; two real and true Gods, accord- ing to the Scripture- Notion of the Word, God, as explained by your felf. This you cannot truly and fincerely, you fliould not otherwife, deny : And therefore, inftead of fliifting it off, your Bufinefs ihould be to maintain your Af^ lertion, and to reconcile it, as far as poflible, to Scripture, Antiquity, and Reafon. I am' fenfible, Ibmething may be pleaded, having feen what has been pleaded, for the Notion of Two Gods, as you underftand it. But, I think, it is upon fuch Principles, as will leave you no Pretence, from Scripture, to objed: Trithetfm to others; nor any jufl: ground for infifting, as you generally do, upon the (IricSt Force of the exclufive Terms, in order to iingod the Son. I will not however anticipate what you may have to fay farther on this Head; nor what may be pertinently replied to it. Let me fee firft, how far you will, in good earned, efpoufe the Notion of two Gods: In the Interim, 1 may fairly leave you to confider of it. I ihall be content, at prefent, to follow you in the way that you are in; endeavoring to clear your fc'lf of the charge of afTerting two Gods, and yet, all the while, pleading for a lubordinate God. G To 8^ ^DEFENSE Qjj. V, To countenance your Notion , you produce > ^ after the Learned Dodor, the Authority of TertuUtan-^ the {■SLmcTertuUian, whom I have quoted above ^ as declaring exprefly againft any fuch vain Imagination, as that of a fubordlnate God ; and throwing it off as a Tagan Dream : The fame that iays, the 'Divinity has no "De- grees, being one only. Will you bring Him tor a Voucher fo diredlly againft Himfelf? True, He ules xhtjimilitude of a King upon aThrone^ and a Son adminijfring his Father's King- dom : But to a very different purpofe from what you would have it ferve. The Objedion againft more Perfbns than one in the Godhead (as Tertullian refolves it ) was, that the Jlu- thority would not be one-^ that there would not be tinicum Imperium : fee the place in the ^ Margin. The f.militude is pertinent to lliow how xht Authority , or Government, may be one in the Hands of fever al Perfbns. But if a Scrip. Bocir, p- 333. ^ See ^- 3. p, 5-4. c Monarchtam> inquiunt, tenemus. Et ita fonum vocaliter ex- primunt Latini, etiam Opici, ut putes Ilios tarn bene intelligcre Monarchiam, quam enuntiant. Sed Monarchiam fbnare ftudent La- tini; 6c Oeconomiam intelligere nolunt etiam Grseci. At Ego, i\ quid utriufque Linguae praecerpfi, Monarchiam nihil aliud Tignificarc ic'xo, quam Singulare ^ Unicum Imperium : non tamen prxfcribere Monarchiam, ideo quia Unius fit, Eum, cujus fit, aut Filium non habere, aut Ipfum fe fibi Filium fecifTe, aut Monarchiam fuarn non per quos velit adminiftrare. Atquin , nullam dico Dominationem ita unius fui t^e, ut non etiam per alias proximas Perfonas ad- miniftretur— —— Si vero &. Filius fuerit ei, cujus Monarchic fit> non ftarim dividi earn, & Monarchiam t^o. definere, fi particeps ejus adfumatur 6c Filius. Contr. Prax. c. 3. p. 5-02. The Senfe of this Paffage /f very clear: The Praxeans, (I fuppo/h taking advantage of this ; that the Church had always rejeBed Tria Principia, and r^u^ kv^^^^^ ) pleaded for ThemfeheSf and againji a you Q,u.V. of fome (QUERIES. 85 you ask Tertullian, how Father and Son can be reputed one God; He tells you in the ^ Chapter before , and in that very PafTage which the Doctor quotes, that it is by U/ihy of Stibjfance and Original. Vnity of Autho- rity, and Vnity of Godhead, arc, with Ter- tuUian, diftind: Things; however you may pleafc to confound Them : God and his Angels have, according to Him, one Authority ; but He does net therefore fay, that the Angels are Gods\ or that, if They were, there would ftill be but one God. ^ Athenagoras makes ufe of the fame Simi- litude for the fame purpofe with Tertullian\ to illufirate the Unity o'i Authority and Power common to Father and Sou ; not the Unity of Godhead. It was the "^ Government divine^ which He undertook, in fome meafure, to illu- ftrate, by That Comparifon of a King and his Son (which however would argue an Equa- lity of Nature , contrary to your Tenets. ) But as to Unity of Godhead, He refolvcs it into ^ other Principles, the very fame with Ter- real Trtnisy -, y^vx^'^ocv tencmus* Tcrtullian tells them, that Ihcy mifur.ilerjiood fj^va^^cc. (As it might fignify iiniim principiurn, He had anfroered the ObjeBton before, c. 2.) tiere He fays, if fgnifies cniy one Authority i a?id He Jhorcs that, taken in that Senfe, tt was no jiift ObjecTwn eigainfi a Trinity of Terfom, Thus, having matn- tumd, firfi, Uniry c/ Principle, and afterwards Unity of AuThorityj Hefuffictcnt'iy guarded the Dcilrine cf the Trinit}', agair.fi the Ca-^iis of Praxcas. a Unus omnia, dum ex uno omnia, per Subfrantiae fcilicet Uni- tatem, p. ^o\. Filium non aliunde deduce, (^d de Subdantia Patris, f.4. p 5'oz. b Legat. c. If. p. 63. c Uv^.h6-j BucnM.cct. 4 p. 38.39.- 96, Q z tulltan s 84 ^DEFENSE Q^u. V. UtUian's ; Namely, Vnity of Subftance , and Original, making the Holy Ghoft ( and the reaion is the lame for the Son) to be a Subftan- tial * Emanation from the Father , as Li^ht from Fire. The common Anfwer to the Charge oilritheifm, oxT)it:heifm, as well of the Toji- Nicene, as ylnte - Nicene Fathers, was, that there is but one Head, Root, Fountain, Father of all ; not in rcfpccl" of Authority only, but of Subjlance alfo ; as Tertullian before exprefles it : Non alitinde deduco^ fed de Subfiantia ^atris. This was the concurrent Senfe of f All in general ; and into this chiefly they refblvcd the Unity oi Godhead \ as they muft needs do, fmce they believed God to be a Word denoting Subfance, not T>o?ninion only ; and one 2)/- vinity, Qt7-r/,?, was with Them the fame Thing as o;/e divine Siibfiance. The learned Dodor, after his manner of Citing, :j: produces, I thinks Thirteen Vouchers, (Ten Antient ; Three Mo- dern) for his Notion of the Unity. Tertullian^ Athenagoras, and Novatian (Three of Them^ evidently refolve the Unity, as before oblerved, into Co?nmiinion of Subflance, Jufiin, Atha- nafitis, Hilary, Bafil, Tearfon, Bull, "Tayne^ (Seven more) moft of Them, in the very Paf- iages which the Dodlor cites; All of them, fonie- where or other, are known to rcfbive it into Sou/bij^, orUnity ofTrincij>le; either of which TO rrviuy^, p. p,'3. f Some pretended Except 'torn mil be conjidered if J nnoiUr VUce, Qu.23. ij: Script, Doch. p. 334, 33)-, Jkc. comes Qy. V. of fome (QUERIES. 85" comes to the fame with the former. None of thefe Authors fo nnderftood the Father to be one God, as to exclude the Son from being one God with Him, in Nature, Subftance, and Per- feivinitas, in Tertullian ; and of (dtorn^ in other ^ Authors. La6fantius, the twelfth of the Number, would have Ipoken fully to our purpofe, in the very ^ Chapter refer'd to, if the Dodor would have fuffered Him. He would have told us (how- ever unhappy He may otherwife be in his Explications of That Myitery ) that Father and Son are one Snbjiance, and one God\ fo far, at leaft, contrary co what the learned Do- dor cites him for. There remains only Eu- a Comm. in Joh. p.i^d. b See ibid. ;>. 3 f. 133. 15-+. 22S.76i. c Epift. Synod. Antioch. Labb. Toin. i. ;=. 847= Eufcbius Comm. in Pfalm. p. ^2^. 592. ^ in Ifa. p. 37/. 382. 5)"i. Atha- naf. pairim. Epiphan. Hsrei, 64. c 8. d Una utrique mens, unus Spiritus, una Subjinntia eflj fed lile quafi exuberans Pons efl:; Hie tanquam deflacns ex co Rivus : Ille tanquam Solj Hie quafi Radius a Sole porreftus. Ad Htramque Terfonam referens intulit, 0> Prater me non ejl Deus; CLrm polTit dicere, prater nos: fed Fas non erat plurali numcro Separationcm Tantse NecelTitudiDis fieri. /. 4. r. 29. p. 403, 404.. G 3 febius ; 26 ^DEFENSE du. V. febkis , whole Exprefiions are bold and free; and lb far favourable to the Dodor, as they are different from thofe of the Catholicks of his own Time, or of the Times before, and after. If they arc really to be underftood, fo as to ex- clude the Son from being one God with the Father, they tingod the Son ; and contain plain Arianifm. But, perhaps they may admit of fuch a favourable excufe as, * Gelafius tells us, Eufebhis, in effed", made for Himfelf, in refped of any uncautious Exprefiions , which, in the warmth of Difpute,or out of his great Zeal againft Sabellianifm, had dropp'd from Him : That He did not mtend Them in the (impious) Se?ife of Arius; but had only been too carelefs and 7iegHgent in his ExfreJJlons. One may be the more inclined to believe it, fince He ad- mittedj at other Times (as I have obferved a- bove) one God in three Terjbns: and elfe- where Ipeaks very Orthodoxly of the Holy un- divided Trinity, making the ^Trinity (not the Father only) the 'A^xn, the Head and Prin- ciple of all Things ; and illuftrating the Equa- lity of the Perfbns by a very handfome Simi- litude. But to return to the Learned Dodor : In the :j: Clofe of this Article, He has a pecuhar * 06 f/jViV kcctu t>)v oi(Tik,ii ixs'.va ivvoiocv, os,XX' £| UTtt^ii^yn ecTFXoT^leg, Gelaf. 1. 2. de Syn. Nic. c. i. p. 11. uvupx,ii J'*** ec}iviiTii (ptitncfjq yipTtjfJUiv/} ^ r?? t ^^htZv cl7nx,VTav ou^eci; ^uvUfjtjK^ skn^Tu Z/^r^ ^y ally Adi.\o.i6. Over all God blejfed, &c. Rom. 9. 5-. In this fixth Query (for fb I chufe to make it, thinking That method moft convenient, on ieveral Accounts) are couched two Arguments for the Son's being the one true God, as well as the Father. The Firfl: \s : That the Char after ifiicks^ ap- pHed to the one true God, are applied likewile to the Son: which Confideration alone is of great force. The Second is : That the Attributes here ap- pHed to the Son, are fiich eininent ones, that we might fafely conclude they belong to no Creature, but to God only. How ihall we know, \A\o, or what the one God is; or what Honour, and to whom, due; but by fuch Marks, Notes, and diftinguiiliing Charaders as are given us of Him in Scripture ? If thofe are equally applied to two, or more Terfons, the Honour muft go along with the Attributes ; and the Attributes infer an equa- lity Q^u. VI. of fome Q^UERIES. jj licy of Nature and Subftance, to fupport Them. Ill a Word; \i d^xMxwz Attributes belong to each Perfon, each Perfon mufl: be God; and if God, fince God is one, the iame God. This is the Sum of the Argument: Now let us fee what Anfwer you give to it. You admit that the Attributes, Ipecified ia the Texts, belong to Both : only you oWerve, that all ^Towers and Attributes are fald to be the Father's only, becaufe they belong to Him primarily, or originally, as the Self-ex- iflent Caufe *. This I can readily admit, as well as you; provided only, the word, Caufe, be interpreted to a juft, fober, and catholick Senfe (as the Greek Writers Specially have under- flood it) and Self exifient be interpreted, as it Ihould be, negatively. You add, our Lord Jefus Chrift, having all communicable divine Towers derived to Him, with his Being, from the Father, is faid to do the fame things which the Father doth, and to be, in a fub- ordinate Senfe, what the Father is. Here are many Things, in this Anfwer, liable to jufl: Exception. Firft, your ufing the word , 'Divine, in an improper Senfe. An-^ gelical Powers are fuch as are peculiar to An- gels ; and divine Powers fuch as are proper to God only : But, here you underftand them, in the fame Senfe, as one might call any kingly Power, or Authority, divine, becaufe derived from God ; and fo any thing that comes from God, is, in your Senle, divine. In the next * Pag. 4(?, place, ^^ ^DEFENSE Qy. VL place, you clog ic farther with the Terra, com- municable, telling us that all commtmtcahle di- vine Powers, are derived toChrift Jefus: where- as I contend, that the Attributes in the Text, are ftridly divine ; and therefore incommuni- cable to any Creature. Next, you fpeak of a fuhordinate Senfe , in which thofe Attributes • belong to Chrifl: ; which is the fame as to fay, (becaufe you mean fo) that they belong not at all to Him. For, I iuppole, omnifcience, or eternity, &c. in your fuhordinate Senfe, are very different from the other ; and therefore are not the fame Attributes. It were better to deny roundly, that the fame Attributes belong to Both ; and then we fliould clearly apprehend each other. Laftly, I obferve to you, that you underftand the word, fuhordi- nate, very difFerenrly from what Catholick Wri- ters do, in this Controverfy ; and therefore, in- ftead of it, ihould rather have faid, in a re- Jirain'd, limited Senie; which is your mean- ing, otherwife you conrradid: not nie. Now then, I muft ask you, what ground or warrant you have from Scripture, or right rea- fbn, for patting RejlriEiions and Limitations upon the Texts applied to Chrift Jefus, more than to thofe applied to the one Godl: The Exprefllons are equally general ; and, feemingly at leaft, equally extenfive. You are fo fenfible that you can give no fohd Proof of a refrain' d and limited Senfe, that you do not fo much as offer at it; but only covertly infmuate your mean- Q^u. VI. of fome QUERIES. 9^5 meaning, under dark and obfcure Terms. You fpeak of Subordination, and quote Fathers for it; who underftood it in the Ibber and ortho- dox Sen(e : If you agree with thofe FatherSy you agree with me. Bur, do not ufe their venerable Names as a cover for what they ne- ver meant, but would have greatly abhor'd *. I allow the fecond Perfon to be Jnbordinately wife, good, powerful, &c. That is not the Queftion between us : He is fapientia de fapi- entia ; as lumen de lumine, and T)eus de 'Deo, What I contend for farther, is, that his Attri- butes ^xc frilly divine, and hisPerfeftions in- finite. I prove it from hence ; becaufe the At- tributes which belong to the one God, and are therefore undoubtedly Infinite., belong to Him alfb; from whence it follows, that the God- head belongs to Him too ; and that there are more Perfons than one, in the 07ie God. What* ever I can find, in your Anfvver, tending, in the leaf!-, to invalidate this reaibning, I fliall rake notice of ; tho' you have been pleas'd to be very Sparing in this Article. You obierve that the exercife of thefe Attributes being finite, they do 7tot neceffarily infer an infinite Subje^. I underftand not what you mean by the exercife of Eternity and Omni/cience ., which are two of thoie Attributes ; nor how it can h^ finite, without an exprefs Contradiction; * The Teftimonies, vphich you haze cited from Dr. Clarke, I take no notice of; becaufe they have Seen aheaily cmfider' d by a learned fientlemarij and fliown to be foreign to your furfofe. True Script-. Doftr> Continued, f . i r nor 94 yf D E F E N S E Q^u. VL nor how either of theiij can be exercised, what- ever you mean by it, but by an infinite Sub- jed:. As httle do I underftand how infinite Tcjoer^ which, I prefume, is what you chiefly allude to, mud ho. finite in the exercife of it; as if there could nor be an Adt of infinite Power, or as if God could not do Ibmerhing which fliould mfinitely exceed any finite Power. Thefe Things very much want explaining; and fo I leave them to your farther Thoughts. The ckareft ExprefTion you have, under this Article, is this: vjhenChrift is fiiled. Lord of all, fee it explained. Matt. x 8.1 8. and Ephefi I. IX. where Chrift Jelus is laid to have all fower given Him. Here, I think, I do under- ftand your meaning ; and am forry to find that it falls fo low. . Would your * Predecefibrs in this Controverfy, the Antient Avians, or Eu- nomians, have ever icrupled to acknowledge that our Blefied Saviour was Lord over all, long before his Re/urre£iion, or even his In- carnation ? That He was Lord of all before his RefttrreBion, is very plain from the Scri- ptures, which carry in them irrefragable Proofs of it. By Him were all Things created that are in Heaven, and that are in Earthy vifi- ble and invifible\ whether they be Thrones, or "Dominions, or T^rincifalities, or T^owers , * Antequam faceret Univerfa, omnium Futurorum Deus & Do- minus, Rex 8c Creator crat Coaftitutus. Voiuntatc & praecepto ( Bet ^ Fatris fui ) Caeleftia £c Terreftiia, viiibilia & invifibilia. Corpora & Spiritus, ex nullis exilantibus, ut eflent, Tua virtutc fecit. Serm. Aria»or. apud Augult, To?nt 8. />. 6ii» all C^u. VI. of fome (QUERIES. 95- all Things were created by Him , and for Him ; and He is before all Things^ and by Him all Things conflfl^ Col. i. 16, 17. Thou Lord in the beginning hafl laid the Foiinda- tion of the Earth, and the Heavens are the works of thine Hands, * Heb. 1. 10. ♦ It is not roithoHt good Keafon that wc underfiand Hebr. i . i o. ofChrifi. 1 . The context it felf favors it. The Verfe begins with, koh <5: otyB-pchmv, ufy'iXm, T TTzLvTuv, T oXuv, "S vi^truja, and the like; Teftimonies whereof will occur hereafter. Barnabas, fpeaking of the Sun in the Heavens, calls it ipyov x^^Zv uvroc^ , }?jea?iing Chrift; tho' there's fome difpute about the Reading : of which fee Grab. Not. in Bull. D. F. p. 25. Thefe Confiderations feem fufficient to overthrow the Pretences of a late Writer, Examin. of Dr. Bennet on Trin. p. 40. As to former Exceptions to this Verfe, They are confider'd and confuted by Bifliof Bull, Jud. Eccl. p, 43, See alfo Sivenhuf= in loc, p. 600. ^ 96 ^DEFENSE Qji. VI Can you imagine that the Son could be Crea- tor and Trejerver of all Things from the Be- ginning ; and yet not be Lord over all till after his Refurredion ? If this does not fatisfy you, return to Job. i. i. He was 0.o; before the World was, by your own Acknowledge- ment; which being a word o^ Office and imply- ing dominion. He was certainly Lord, as loon as ever there was any Thing for Him to be Lord over. And when He came into the tVorld, the World that ^ujas made by Him, (Joh. i.io.) He came unto his own, {J oh, i.i\.) Surely then, He was Lord over all long before his Refurredrion. You will ask, it may be, what then is the meaning of thole Texts which you have quoted? How was all Tower given Him ^ according to Matt. 28. 18 ? Or how were all Things then J^nt under His Feet, according to Ephef. I. XI? Nothing is more eafy than to anfwer you this. The Aoyo^j ot Word, was, from the Beginning, Lord over all\ but the God incarnate, the 0^^av3pa)7ra.', or God-Man^ was not fo, rill after the Refurredtion. Then He received, in that Capacity, what He had ever enjoy'd in another. Then did He receive that full Tower, in both Natures, which He had heretofore pofiefs'd in one only. This is very handlbmly reprelented by HermaSy in his fifth Similitude : where the * Son of God is introduced under a double Capacity, as a Sony * 6>c Bull. D. Fid. N. p. 38^ and Qu. VI. cffome Q^UERIES. 97 and as a Servant, in relpedl of his two Natures, divine and Human. *'* The Father calh'ng his Son and Heir whom *' He loved, and fuch Friends as He was wont *' to have in Council, He tells Them what •' Commands He had laid upon his Servant; ** and moreover what the Servant had done: ** And they immediately congratulated that " Servant, for that He had received fb full a " Teftimony from his Lord. (^Afterguards the Father adds) " I will make Him my Heir ** together with my Son. This defign of " the Lord, both his Son and his Friends ap- ** proved, namely, that this Servant fliould •* be Heir together with his Sgu, It is much to the fame purpofe that Origen lays to Celfus. '• f Let thofe our Acculers *' {"joho object to us our making a God of a ** mortal Man) know, that (this Jefiis) whom *' we believe to have been God, and the Son ** of God, from the beginning; is no other * (Pater) adhibitoFilio quem carum 5c Haeredem habebat, & Amf« cis quos in Confilio advocabatj indicat eis quce Servo fuo facienda mandafle!: , quje praeterea Ille fecifTet. At Illi protinus jrratulati funt Servo iili, quod tarn plenum Tcftimonium Domini alfecutiis fuifTet volo eum Filio meo facere cohaeredem — Hoc confiiium Domini, 8c Filius, £c Amici ejus Comprobaverunt , ut fieret fcilicet Hie Servus Cohseres Filio^ Herm. Vajl. Sim, y. ex. /), 104., Cot, Edit. "/jA^Vi il'JOj ©Jflc k: 'vjo> ©jS, 0W75? 6 uuToXo'^^ iV, ^ v, c(.'jro(rs(p',o(., y^ ^ o(,-jTou,X''f^isf To oi S-y>3Tci/ cciir'i (rZtJua, , x.Xi rnv oivB-auynv^yj ci/ eiuro^ "^v^^', Tv; ir^5 wtstvo, 8 ^vcv i[$i))U'jia. ocXXcc y^ ivaxri Kxl otvoCK^T^, f « f^iov yji^Qic^Kiv;(j, Orig. Contr. Celf. 1. 3. p, i 36, crC' H •* than 98 ^DEFENSE Qv. VI. •^ than the Word it felf, Truth it felf, and " Wifdom it felf: But we fay farther that his '* mortal Body, and the human Soul that was *' therein, by means of their moft inrimate *' Connexion to, and Union with the Word, " received the greateft Dignity imaginable, and '* participating of his Divinity, were taken in- *' to God. It is difficult to exprels the full force of this Paflage, mEngliJh : But you may fee the Original in the Margin. From hence you may perceive, how eafy it is to account for our Lord's having all Tower given Him, afrer his Reiiirredtion ; given him in relped: of his Human Nature, which was never Jb high exalted, nor alTumed into fuch Power and Privilege, till that Time; having before been under a State of Afflidion , and Humiliation. There is a notable Fragment of Hippolytus which Fabricitis has lately given us in the Second Volume; and which is io full to our purpofe, that I cannot forbear adding it to the former. Speaking of that famous Paf- fage in the Epiftle to the Thrliffians, c. x. and particularly upon thele Words : IV her ef ore God alfo hath highly exalted Hi?n, v. 9. He Comments upon it thus. * '' He is faid to be " exalted, as having wanted it before; but in " rd'ped only of his Humanity-^ and He has " a Name given Him; as 'twere a Matter of *' Favor, which is above every Name as the •* BlefTed (Apoftle) Taul exprefles it. But * Hippolytus Vol. i. p. 29* Fabric. Edit- " in Qy, VL offome (QUERIES. 99 *' in Truth and Reality, this was not the giv- " mg Him any Thing, which He naturally " had not from the Beginning ; fo far from it, '* that we are rather to efleena it his returning ** to what He had in the Beginning *^//?;//^/^//y, '• and unalterably ; on which Account it '\%, that *' He, having condefcended, oi>a>i'o/-tix.5^, to put ** on the humble Garb o^ Humanity, faid. Fa- *' ther, glorify me with the Glory, which I ♦" had, &c. For He was always inverted with ** Divine-Glory, having been Co-exiftent with *' his Father before all Ages, and before all '* Time, and the Foundation of the World f. I hope, this may fuffice to convince you, how much you millake ; and how contrary your Sentiments are both to Scripture, and Ca- tholick Antiquity, if you imagine that the Ao- y@-, or Word , then firfl: began to be Lord over all, when that Honour was confer'd on the Man Chrift Jefus. J I may add a PaJ/age of Novatian, Ac fi de ccslo defcendit Verbam Hoc, tanquam Sponfus ad Carnem> ut per Carnis ad- fumptionem filias Hominis illuc poflet aicendere, unde Dei Filius, Verbum, dcfcenderaf. Merito, dum per conncxionem mutuam, Sc Caro Verbum Dei gerit, & Filius Dei Fragilitatem Carnis adfumiti Cum fponfa Carrie Confceodens illuc unde line Carne defcenderat, recipit jam claritatem ilUmy quajn dum ante munai ConfiitHtionem huhtiijfe ofienditur. Dens manifejiijjimi ComprobatHr. Novae, c. i 3. H ^ Query 100 ^DEFENSE (^u. VII. Q^u E R Y vir. JVhether the Father's Omnifcience and Eter- nity are not one and the fame iz!ith the Son's , being alike defcribed, and tn the fame Thrajes? See the Texts above./. 89. "17" OUR Anfvver, * with refped to the Son'^ 1 Omnifcience, is, that He hath a rela- tive Omnifcience communicated to Him from the Father ; that He knows all Things re- lating to the Creation and Government ofth^ Uuiverfe ; and that He is ignorant of the IDay of Judgment. The Son then, it feems, knows all Things^ excepting that He is ignorant of many Things; and is omnifcient in inch a Senfe, as to know infinitely left, than one who is really omnifci- ent. Were it not better to fay plainly, that He is not omnifcient, than to fpeak of a rela- tive Omnifcience, which is really no Omni- fcience % unlefs an Angel be omnifcient, or a Man omnifcient^ becaufe He knows all Things which He knows? What Ground do you find in Scripture, or Antiquity, for your Diftindtion of abfolute and relative Omnifcience ? Where is it laid, that He knows all Things relating to his Office, and no more ? Or how can he be fb much as omnifcient, in this low Senfe, if He knows not, or knew not, the preciie time * Pag. 4t. of Qy, VII. offome Q^UERIES. loi of the Day of Judgment; a Thing which, one would imagine, ihould belong to his Office as much as any ? Mat^t. x^. 36. as wcil as Alark 13. 32. is plainly meant only of the hitman Nature ; and is to the fame effccl with Luk, 2. 52. That He increased in JViJdom , which cannot be literally underftood of the Koy%* with any tolerable confiftency, even upon the Avian Hypothecs *. You tell us farther, that All the Ante- Nicene Writers tinderfland by thefe two Texts, that our Lord as the Ao- 7©^, or Son of God, did not then know the Day of Judgment, (p. 49.) This is very new indeed ; If you have read the Arite - Nicene Writers ; you muft know better : if you have not; how unaccountable a thing is it to talk thus confidently without Book V If what you fay was true, we fliould, without delay, give you up all thefe Writers to a Man ; and never more pretend to quote any Ante-Nicene Fa- * A late JVriter acquaints us, in the Name of Dr» Clarke a72d the Arians, ( / prefume, roithoHt their leave) " that the Word really " emptied it felf, and became Ike the Rational Soul i)/' another Man, *' vhich is limited by the Bodily Organs; and is, in a manner, dor- " mant in Infzncy ■■, and that the Word may be deprived of its for- '* mer extraordinary Abilities in reality, and grow in Wifdom, " as ethers do. This is making the Aoy^, That greatefl and beft of Beings, {upon the Arian Scheme) next to God Him'elf, become a Child in waderjlanding; tho^ once -wife enough to Frame, and Govern the whole JTniverfe. The Author calls it, ([ think, very profanely) The true and great Myllery of Godlinefs, God manifeft in Flefh. One would think, infiead of manifeft, it (Jjould have been, confined, lockM up in Tlefl); -which is the Author's own Interpretation of this Myftcry, (p. 16.) IVioat defign He could have in all This, 1 know not; unlefs He confider'd what Turn Arianifm took, foon after its Revival at the Reformation. See Exam, of Dr. Bemiet oa the Tria. p. i j-j 16. H 3 rher, ici y^ D E F E N S E Q^u. VII. ther, in favour of the prefent Orthodoxy. But as the Point is of great Moment, we muft re- quire fome Proofs of it: For, writing of Hiftory by Invention, is really Romancing. You cite Iren£tis from * Dr. Clarke ^ who could find no other : or elfe we ihould have heard of it from the firft Hand. And yet you cry out, All% which is more than the learned Dodior pretended to fay ; w^ho had his Thoughts about Him; and would not have let flip any fair ad- vantage to the Cauie which He elpoules. But has the Doctor really proved that Ire- naus meant fo ? Perhaps not : And then your jill, which was but 07ie, is reduced to none. Two Things the Dodor, or you, Ihould have proved: Firft, That Irenaus underftood thofe Texts of the Aoy-^> or Word, in that Capacity. And Secondly, That He liippoied Him literally Ignorant of the Day of Judgment. The Dodor knew full well what Solutions had been given of the difficulty arifing from this PalTage. Yet He barely recites lrenatis'% Words; and nei- ther attempts to prove that fuch was his Senle, nor to dilprove ii. You indeed do obierve, froni fome learned Terfon, that this PalTage of Ire- n£us will admit of no Evajion. For, He evi- dently Jpeaks not of the Son of Man, but of the Son of God ; even of That Son with whom, as it follows^ in omnibus F^ater com- municat. Let this have its due Weight : The Argument may |ook fo far plaufible on that * Script. Doftr. p. 146. fide: Qu. VII. of fome Q^UERIES. 103 fide : But lee the other fide be heard too, be- fore we determine. ^ Bifliop Bull has given fbiiie Reafons, and weighty ones too, to iliow, that, if Irenans attributed any ignorance to Chrill: , He did it in refped: of his Hitman Nature only. His Reafons are. I. Becauklre/f^ris, in the very fame Chapter, ^ afcribes abfolure Omnifcience to the divhie Nature of Chrift. 1. BecaufeHe every where elfe fpeaks of the Son, as of one perfedly acquainted with the Nature, and JVM, of the Father. 3 . Becaufe the fame •= Irenaiis upbraids the Gnojlicks for their Folly, in afcribing any De- gree of Ignorance to their pretended Sophia, or Wifdom. How then could He imagine that the true Sophia, Wifdom it felf, could be ignorant of any Thing ? 4. Becaufe the fame Irenaus ^ ules an Argu- ment againft the Valentinians, who pretended a Def. F. N. p, 82. Comp, Brev. Animadv. in G. CI. p. 10 f 6. b Spirit us Salvatoris, qui in eo eft, Scrutator omnia, £c Altitu- dines Dei, A 1. c. 28. />• if 8. c ^ee l. 2. c. 18. p' 140. Iren. Quomodo autem non vanum eft, quod etiam Sophia??! ejus dicunt in ignorantia fuifte? Hasc enim alicna funt a Sophia, & contraria — ubi enim eft Impro' videntiii 8v Ignorantia utilitaris, ibi Sophia non eft. d Iren. l.i. c. if. p. 15-2. Ed. Bened. In quantum minor eft. ab eo qui fa£lus non eft 8c qui fempcr idem eft, ille qui hodie fadtus eft 8c initium fadlurx accepit: in tantum, fecundum fcien- tiam 8c ad invefligandum caufas omyiiumy minorem efte eo qui fe- cit, Non enim infedus es, O Homo, neque fempcr co-exiftebas Deo, ficut proprium ejus Verbum: Scd propter eminentem Boni- tatem ejus, nunc initium I'adturx accipiens, i'cnlim difcis 3 Verbo difpolitiones Dei, qui Te fecit. The whole PaJJage is fnlkr to thf ?oinr» H 4 ro 104 ^DEFENSE Qjj, VII. to know all Things, which plainly luppofes that Chrift is omn'ijctent. The Argument is This. You are not eternal and uncreated, as the Son of God is ; and therefore cannot pre- tend to be omnifclent, as He \s. It might have concerned you to anfwer thefe Reafbns, and to make the good Father, at leaft, confident with Himfelf, before you lay claim to his Authority for your fide of the Queftion. However, I am perfuaded, that, as Biiliop Bull is very right in determining that Irenaus could not mean to afcribe any degree of Ignorance to the Koyii'i or divine Nature, of Chrift ; lb, you are right fb far, in the other Point, that Irenaus is to be underftood of the Koy^, in^ what He fays. And now the Queftion will be, wheiher He really afcribes Ignorance to Him, or only ieems to do lb , to an unattentive Reader. Irenaus's Words, I conceive, will mofl na- turally bear this following Interpretation , or Paraphrale. ** * If any one inquires on what " Account the Father who communicates in * Si quis exquirat caufam, propter cuam in omnibus Pater com- mun'cans Fih'o, folus fcire & Horam & Diem a Domino mani» felbtus cfti neque aptabilem magis, nequc decentiorem, nee line periculo alteram quam banc inveniat, in prseienti, (qiioniam enim Solus Verax Magifter eft Dominus) ut difcamus per Ipfum fuper omnia eiTc Patrem. Etenim Tater, ait. Major me ejl. Et fecundum Agnitionem itaque pr^pofitus efle Pater annuntiatus eft a Domino n^flro} ad hoc, ut 8c nos, in quantum in figura hujus mundi fu- iiiU3» perfediam icientiam, & tales quaeftiones concedamus Deo: 2c nc forte quserentes ^c. Iren^ l.i. c 28. /». i$Z> iS9' He had /aid before. Dominuj, ipfe Filius Dei, ipfum Judicii Diem & Horam con- '' all Q^u. VII. of fo>/je QIJEKIES. lof " ^// 77?///^ J- with the Son, {and confequently " in all Knowledge, and parvkularly in that '* of the 'Day of Judq^ment) is yet here fet " forth as the only Perlbn knowing that Day "• and Hour ; He cannot, io tar as I at prelent "apprehend, find any fitter or more decent, " or indeed any other lafe Aniwer than this '' (confiJering that our Lord is a Teacher of *' Truth, and miifl mean fomething by it) that ** it was to inftrud: us, as from Himfelf, that " the Father is above all, according to what *' He fays elfewhere,/ir the Father is greater *' than I. And therefore the Father is declared " to have the Priority and Preference in refped: '* of Knowledge, by our Lord Himfelf, for aa *' Example to us; that wc aifo, while we live " and converie here below, may learn to refer *' thePerfedion of Knowledge, and all intricate " Queftions to God. The defign oilren^us was to check the vain Prefumption, and Arrogance of the Gnojiicks, pretending to learch into the deep Things of God. And the Arauraent He had us'd was this : tiiat our Lord Himlelf was pleas'd to refer the knowledge of the Day of Judgment to the Fa- ther only ; as it were on purpofe to Teach us, that while we converfe here below, it becomes cefllt fcire folum Patrem, manifcfte dicens ; de Die autem illo Sc Hora ne'/no fcir, neque Ftlius, mji Pater folus. Si igitur ibientiam diei illius, Filius non erubuit rcferre ad Patrem, fed dixit quod vcrum eftj neque nos erubcfcamqs, quse funt in quaeftionibus majora iecundum nos, refervare Deo, p. ifS. US io6 ^DEFENSE Q_u. VII. us not CO pretend to high Things ; but to leave the deep Things of God, to God alone. This is his Argument, and a very good one it is. But the good Father apprehending that what He had iaid of our bleftcd Saviour, might be liable to Exception , and be mifunderftood ; comes afterwards to explain his Senfe more at large. He is fenfible of the danger of alcribing any thing hke Ignorance to our bleHed Lord, on one hand ; and as fenfible of the danger of contradi^ing the Text on, the other. ^ionia?n enim Solus Verax Maglfler eft T^ominus, in as much as what Chrijt has fa'td muft be true ; in fbme Senfe or other. Dr. Clarke flipp'd over thele Words in his Tranflaticn of the PalTage, I luppofe by inadvertency : But they may ferve to give Hght to the reft. For the difficulty lay here: How can it be true that the Father com- municates in all Things, and confequently m the knowledge of the Day of Judgment, to the Son; and yet our Saviour lay true, in a/crib- ing that particular knowledge to the Father on- ly ? His anfwer is, that we are thereby taught to refer every thing to the Father, as the Ori- ginal of all Things. To Him Knowledge ought to hQ principally, and in tht firji place, afcrib- ed: Our Saviour therefore Himielf yields to Him the preference, as became Him, Speci- ally here on Earth : not as if He knew lefs, but becaufe what He knew. He knew by Com- munication from the Father; to whom there- fore He refers fuch fecrets as it was not pro- per Qjj, VII. of fome (QUERIES. 107 per to reveal, nor fit for Men to enquire after. That this is all that Irenaus meant, may reaibnably be though r ; not only becaufe other- wife it would be utterly inconfiltent with many other parts of his Writings, as has been before pblerved: but alfo, becauie feveral Exprefllons, in this very Paflage, lead to it Had He really believed the divine Koy%- , or IVord, to be literally Ignorant ; why ihouid He be lb ap- prehenfive of the difficulty of thoie Texts ? Why fo concerned about the iirneis, and de- cency of his Interpretation ; and that it might be fine periculo ? The danger was, in inter- preting fcemingly againft the Text, to find a Salvo for the Son's Omnifcience. For this rea- ibn, He does not ask, why the Father only knew (not, ctir 'Pater foltts Jcivtt) but why, or on what Account (folus Jc'ire ?nanifejiatus: eji) He was refrefented as alone knowing; or. He only was faid to know. He does not lay, as the Dodior's Tranllation infinuates, that the Father is more knowing than the Son ; but pr£pofitus only; which fignifies fet before ^ having the 'Preference , or the like; which may be conceived, tho' He be equally know- ing : and, for the greater Caution, it is not faid dbioluKtly, frapofitus eft '^ hwi frapo fit us ejfe anmmtiatus eft : He is declared to have the Preference : So that the Queftion , with Irenatis , is not why the Father is Superior m knowledge ; but why, fince Father and Son are io8 ^ D E F E N S E Qjj. VIL arc equally knowing, our Saviour makes fuch a Declaration as gave the Preference to the Father. And the Realons which He afTigns, are very much to the purpoie. 1. To inftrudl: us, that the Father is th€ Fountain and Original, even of the Son FJin> felf. 2. Becaufe, in his then oreient State of Con- defcenfion, it became Him to refer all to the Father. 3. Becaufe it may be an ufeful Example of Humility and Modefty to us, that we, much rather, while we are here below, may not pre- tend to high Things. Upon the whole ; it may appear, that Ire- nattss Solution of the difficulty is the very lame with that which the * Dodor quotes from St. Bafil^ who had learned it from a Child : Namely this, '* That our Lord meant to aicribe •* to the Father, the Firft, (i. e. the frimary, ** original) Knowledge of Things Preient, and *' Future ; and to declare to the World, that ** He is in all Things the firft Caufe. As the Son is God of God, and Light of Light ; io it is proper to fay, Omnifcience of Omnifci- ence, &c. The Attributes being derivative, in the fame Senfe, as the EiTence is : Which is St. Bajil's meaning; and, I think. Irenaus's. This Defence may be fairly and juftly made for Irenaus, fuppofing that what he faid, was meant of the Ar/o^, or divine Nature, as fuch : * Script, BoHr. p. 1475 148. To Q^u. VII. of fome QUERIES. 109 To which Opinion I incline. Neverthclefs, I fliodd not afFcd to be dogmatical in That Point, fince learned and judicious Men have been of both Sides of the Qaeftion. Tetavius * obferves, that the Senfe is ambiguous'^ and that there are not certain grounds to determine us either way. If he underftood it of the hu- man Nature only ; then the difficulty is no- thing: if of Both, I have lliown how fair an Account may be given of it. Having thus got over Irenaus, I have at once taken from you all your Ante-Nicene Writers. You will ob- ferve, that the Texts might be underftood of the Ao7@"5 or divine Nature, as Ba/il under- (lands them, in the place above cited ; and yet that They, who fo underftood them, might be far from thinking that the Ao7@«, or JVord^ was ever ignorant of any Thing, f Dr, Clarke^ to do him Juiiice, is, in the main, fb very fair and reafonable in his Account of thofe two Texts, that we have no occafion at all to dif- fer with Him. I wifli, as you have in mod other Matters, fo you had here alio copied after Him. I will not leave this Article, without giving you a Specimen of the Senfe of the Ante- Nicene Writers, in regard to the Son*s Omni- fcience ; that you may have a better Opinion * Irenoeus, libro Sccunclo Capite 19, ambigue loquitur j ut ne- fcias Infcitiam illius Diei Chriito, ialrem qua eft Homo, tribuac, an non ac poflit ad utramque defle p. 171 of no yf D E F E N S E Q^li. VIL of thofe good and great Men. We may begin with Ignatius. ^ '* There is nothing hid from *' the Lord: But our very lecret Things are •' nigh unto Him. Let us therefore do all *' Things, as having Him dwelling in us; that ** we may be His Temples, and He our God *' in us. I proceed to Clement of Alexandria, who . fays thus: ^ " The Son of God never goes off *' from his Watch-Tower: never parted, ne- *' ver feparaced , nor moving from Place to *' Place; but is always every-vvhere, and con- •' rained no-vvhcre: all Mind, all Light, all •' Eye of his Father , beholding all Things , *' hearing all Things, knowing all Things, ^In another Place, *' Ignorance {in any de- ** gree^ cannot afJcCt God, Him that was the *' Father's Counieiior before the Foundation of " the World. ^ Origen is pretty large upon the very Texts whereof we have been Ipeaking. He gives fe- veral Interpretations: but it is oblervabJe, that He ftudiouily endeavors to find fome Solu- a Ouoiv AavS-aJv^ Tcv Kv^iov ^ u.X>j3C, y.cn toc y.^vyfloi yu>av tfyvq uvr^ i'^u Ignat. Ep. ad Ephef- c. if. p. 17. Ox. Ed. That Kv^iov is meant of Chrifty is i/ery highly prohable from the ufe of the Word tn this Author, and from the Context. Cof/jiv(^, erne "^cnri^/jvoio/jo:^ » f/ji'^Qcafuv sk 'nxa fj's ttwtj", vruyrvj -^ cX!^ 'O(pSxXf/i0c, TTzlvTU o^m, ttuvtu uxiiuy, iiaa^ -Traty^ — ■ m Clem- Alex. Strom. I. 7. c.2. p.8?i« See alfo p. n;?. 611. 832. ^isX'd •)^vofjijivi£ r5 UxT^c,, p. 834. d Horn. 30. in Matt, tiod. Q^u. VII. offome (QUERIES. lit tiou, which may acquit the Aoy®^ from the Imputation of being hterally Ignorant of the Day of Judgment. What Origen's Opinion was of Chrift's Omni/cience, you may alio fee *eliewhcre. To confirm what hath been laid, cue, general Remark I'll leave with you. The Sabell'ian Controverfy began early, and lafted long in the Church. The Di(pute was, whether Father and Son were one and the fame Hypoftafis, or Terfon, Had the Catholicks in- terpreted thele two Texts as you pretend They did , there could not have been any Thing more dccifive againft the Sabellians, Ter- tull'ian , you know , encountered them in a pretty large Book, his Book againft Traxeas-^ Hippolytus entered the Lifts againft Noetus% and his Book is ftill extant; Eufebitis's famed Piece, againft Marcelhis, is to the fame pur- port ; Several Fragments befides, of other Au- thors, remain. Pleale to look Them over ; and fee if I you can find any one of Them combat- ing the iy/^^^///^;/ J- with thefe Texts: And if you cannot; either be content to own, that it was a very ftrange and unaccountable Omiftion in thofe Writers; or eile that they had quite other Notions of Things, than you have hitherto * Con m. in joh. p. 28. Huet. Ed- He puts the very ^eftion, whether the Son knows all that the Father ImoveSy and determines in the Affirmative j bUmtng thofe who, under pretence of mp-gmfying the Tattler, prefumed to o.vhy it. The Pajfage is rather too long to be here inferted. f Tertullian inideed cites the Text, in pajjing; not drawing any ftich Argument^ af I ima>h from if^ What Hs ?neant mil he fhow/t hereafter, undir ^ery a^rk- imagined. iix A DEFENSE Q^ii. Vll. imagined. The Avians you find afterwards, perpetually almoft, teazing the Catholicks with thole Texts: Strange they fliould never have been infifted on againft the Sabell'tans, being {o full to the purpofe; eipccially if, as you fuppofe, the Ante-Nicene Writers were them- felves of that Perlwafion, which was afterwards called Arian. It is evident that the SabeUians mad have undcrftood the Texts, if rhey are to be taken literally, of the Man Chriji Je/tis only. Otherwife there had been a raanifell re- pugnancy, in the Words, not the Son, but the Father \ fince they iuppoicd Father and Son one and the fame Hypoftajis. It is as plain, that they muft have thought that the Catholicks agreed with them in that Expofition ; other- wife they would have charged them, not only with Tritheifm, but with the denial of the Son's ejfential T>ivmity. It does not appear that thofe Texts ever canne into Controverfy betwixt Them; or were ever urged by the Catholicks ; fo that Both feem to have agreed in the fame Interpretation. So much for the Point of Omnifcience. I come next to confider what you have to objed: to my Argument for the Son's Eternity. I had put it upon this ; that it is dekribed in the fame Phrafes, with God the Father's; which, one would think, lliould be high enough. You tell me that the Son's Metaphyfical Eternity is no where exprejly revealed What the fine word, Metafhyfical, fignifies here, I know not. If Qji Vll of fome (^UERIE^. ii^ If his Eternity is revealed, it is enough for me. That I undcrftand to be revealed, in thefe two Texts, Rev. i. 17. xx. 13. I am the Jirji. and I am the laji. I am Alpha and Omega^ the Beginning and the End. That rhefe, and the like Phraies xQ^^cGt'Dnration, appears from Ifa. 43. 10. compared with Ifa, 44. 6. In tho latter, the Words are ; / am the firft, and I am the iaft, and befides me there is no God. The former, exprefTmg the fame Thought, runs thus : Before me was there no God formed^ neither Jhall there be after me. The Phrafe of A and n, Firft and Lad:, is, in like manner, explained Rev. \. 8. I am Alpha and Omega ^ the Beginning and the Ending, faith the Lord^ . which is^ ' and which was, and which is to come. The Phrale .then refpecSts 'Duration ; and it is applied to our bleiTed Saviour, as hath been fliovvn; Rev. i. 17. — 22. 13. Therefore there was no God before Him : Therefore He \s^ in the ftrideft Senfe, Eternal. You fay, thei ObjeEior hath not brought one Text of Scrz^ pture that at all proveth it, I did not pro- duce all the Texts proper upon that Head: I defign'd Brevity. Befides, I had a mind to re- move the Caufe, fromCriticifm upon Words, to one plain and afFefting Argument : viz. That the Proof the Son^s Eternity ftands upon the fame Foot, in Scripture, with the Proof of the Father's ; and is exprefs'd in as ftrong Words. And for this, I appeal, as to the Texts above dted, fo aifo loTrov.%, %i, 8cc. which you I allow 114 ^DEFENSE C^u. VII. allow to be fpoken of the MeJJlas, The ori- ginal Word, which we tranflare, from Ever* idjitng, is the very fame with what we meet with in Vfal. 90. %. where alio we find a pa- rallel Defcription of Eternity, applied to the one God. See alfo Tfal. 93. 2. I allow^ your Obfervation, that the Hebrew word may, and fometimes does, fignify a limited^ as well as it does, at other times, an unlimited T>wx2X\on. And therefore I do not lay all the ftrefs of my Argument upon the critical meaning of the Word ; but upon That , and other Circum- ftances taken together: particularly this Cir- cumftance ; that the Eternity of the Father is deicribed in the lame Manner, and in the fame Phrales, with the other; as by * Comparing ^faL 90. 2. with Trov. 8. 22, ®r. and Rev, I. 8, with i?^*!^. 22. 13. may fully appear. I do not argue from a fingle Phrafe, or the par- ticular force of it ; but from fever al ; and thele equally applied to Both : as it were on purpoie to intimate, that though thele Phrafes fingly might bear a limited Senle ; yet confidering that God had made choice of thera as mofl: figni- ficant to exprels his own ^Duration ; and again made choice of the very fame, out of many * 'Before the Mountains voere brought forth, or ever thou hadft for me J the Earth and the World: even from everlajling , Thou art Gody Pfal, 90. 2. The Lord pojfe/s'd me in the he- ginning of his re ay, before his (Vorks of old, 1 was fet up from everlafl- ifig, from the beginning, or ev€r the Earth was Before the Mountains were fettled j before the Hills, was I iroHght forth* Prov. 8. 22, &c Others, Qy. VII. offomiT (QUERIES. iij others, to exprcfs his Soft's T)uration too, wc might from thence be taught to beHeve that the Son is Co-eternal with Him. You are fenfible of the Objedion lying a- gainfl: you ; namely , that there's no certain Proof, according to your way of reafoning, of the Eternity of the Father, in the Old Tefta- ment ; And 'io relblute you are in this Matter, that, rather than admit \\\(:, Son to be eternal too, you are content to leave us in the Dark, fb far as the Old Tejfatnent goes, about the other. But, for a Salvo to the Father's Eter- nity, you obferve, that it is emphatically ex- prefs'd in the Ne^jo Tejiament (Rom. i. 20.) forgetting that the word'Ai^iO^ occurs but *once more, in the New Teftament ; and then fignifies eternal \w a limitedS^nk only, or z parte pofi, as the Schools fpeak. Well then, for any thing I fee to the contrary, we muft contentedly go away, without any Scripture Proof of the Eter- nity of the Father-^ for fear it fliould oblige us to take in the Soil's alfo. And this, indeed, is what you are before-hand apprehenfive of, and prepared for ; and therefore it is that you tell us, that there appears no necejjlty at all-, that the Attribute of Eternity Jhould be diftin5ily revealed with refpe^i to the Father; ivhofe Eternity our rea/on infallibly ajfures us of (p. 50.) Infallibly afTures : So you fay ; and, I believe, in my own way, I might be able to maintain your Aflertion. But I profels to you, * Jude V. 6 1 % that ij6 ^defense Qjj. VIL thar I do nor, at prefenc, apprehend, how, ^z/- 07^ your Principles, you will be able ro make any compleat Demonftration of ir. Ic would be ridiculous to ralk of proving from Reafoit only, without Revelation, that the Perfbn Vi^hom we call the Father, the God of Jews and Chrijlians , is the Eternal God. F will therefore prefume that you mean, by Reafon, Reafcn and Revelation Both together ; and if you cfTedually prove your Point from Both, it ihall fuffice. You can demondrate that there mufl: be forae eternal God, in the metaphyjical Senfe, as you call it, of thele Words: But fince the Father, the God of Jews and Chrijlians^ has not declared, either that He is Eternal, or God, in the metaphyfical Senfe ; it does not ap- pear how H€ 'i?> at all concerned in it, He has ftid, indeed, that there is ;/^ G^^^^T?^)?^ /^/^ ; but as He did not mean it in the metaphyficat Senfe, there may be Another, in that Senfe, bejides Him, notwithftanding ; Nay, it is cer- tain there are and have been other Gods ; even in the Jame Senle : For Mojes was a God un- to Tharaoh^ and Chrift is God-^ and therefore this cannot be literally true. It can only mean, that He is emj^hat ica lly GoA, in feme reiped: or other; perhaps as being God, of ourSyftem; or God of the Jews and Chrijiians, his pecu- Hum. It is true, He has called Himfelf Jeho- vah ; which if it fignified necellary exiftence and independence, it would be an irrefragable Proof of his being, the eternal God. But it unfor- Qy. VII. of feme (QUERIES. 117 unfortunately happens that Jehovah Signifies no more than a Perlbn of Honour and Integrity, who is true to his Word, and pey^forms his Tromifes (f. 19.) He has farther declared Him- felf to be Creator of the World : But this ex- ercife of creating, being finite, does not ne- cejfarily infer an infinite Subje6t, (p. 48.) Befides that this Ojfice and Char a^er^ relative to its, pre-fnppofes not, nor is at all more ferfeEi for, the eternal fafi "Duration of his Being, (See p. 5-0.) What fliall I think of next? I muft ingenuoufly own, I am ut- terly non-plufs'd ; and therefore muft defire you, whenever you favor me with a reply, to make out your Demonftration. But let us proceed. Having given us a Reafon, why it was not neceffary that the fuppofed Eternity of the Fa- ther fliould be revealed, you go on to acquaint us, why it was not needful to declare xhQ Jiip- Pofed Eternity of the Son. And here you give either two Reafbns, or one; I hardly know whether. His Ojfice and Character, you fay, relative to us, does not pre-fufpofe it. \ know that very wile and judicious Men have thought, that it does fre-fupfofe it. Bifliop Bull, for inftancc, has fpoke admirably well upon that Head. Bat the PafTage being too long to tran- Icribe, I ihall only refer to it *. How you come ^o take for granted a Thing which you know nothing of, and which it is impollible either for • Judic, Ecd. f. 12. I 3 you, n8 yf D E F E N S E Qjj. VIL You, or any Man elfe to prove. I know nor. It is very manifeft that, unlels you have a full Idea of the whole Work of Redemption, and can tell as well what belongs to a Redeemer, and a Judge of the whole Univerfe, as you can what belongs to a Red:or of a Parifh, you can pafs no certain Judgement. No Man can cer- rainly define the ucmofi: of what was needful in the Cafe ; becaule no Man can dive into the utmoft depth of it. There may be m.ore then You, or I, or perhaps Angels, can lee, in that myfterious Difpenfation j and therefore it is the height of Prefumption to pronounce, that any Power, lefs than Infinite, might be equal to it. I do not fay that the Argument for Chrift's divinity drawn from the greatnefs of the Work of Redemption, and the Honours confequent upon it, amounts to a perfed Demonftration : But this I fay, and am very clear in what I fay, that it is much furer arguing for the Ajfirma- tive, from what we know ; than for the Ne- gative, from what we know not. It is pofli- ble our Proof may not be fiiiFicient: But it is, a priori, impolfible that your's Ihould. Whe- ther we can maintain our Point, may perhaps be a Queftion : but it is out of all Queftion, that you cannot maintain your's. Having anfwer'd this your firft Reafon, why it was not necelTary to reveal the Son's Eter- nity, I proceed to the remaining Words; whic^ if I perfedly underftood, I might know whe- ther they are a diftind Reafon, or only an Ap- pendage Qu. VII. of forne (QUERIES. 119 pendagc to the former. They are rhefe : Nor is it (Chrifl*s Office and Charadter) at all more ferfe6i for the eternal pajt ^Duration of his Being, ( p. 5-0.) I have been conddcring why that word, Vafi, was inferred, and what it can mean, in that place. It leems to be oppoied either to prefent, or elfe to, to come, tacitely underflood. At firft, I thought thus: That it might be put in to prevent our Imagining that Chrift's Office might not be at all more perfcd for the eternal Duration of his Being, to come. But confidering again, that if He does but con- tinue till x\\^Ojfce is compleated and perfedted, \i is all one, in refped: of that Ojfce, whether his Duration hold longer or no; I thought, That could not be the meaning. Reflediing again, I conceived that, Tajl, might poffibly have relation to the Office confider'd as prejent, or commencing at fuch a Time ; fuppoie SixThou- fand Years ago: And you might think; what could it fignify to date his Being Higher ? If He did but exift, foon enough for the Office, it \^ fufficient. All the Time run out before, is of no Confideration ; having no Relation to an Office which was to commence after, and would ftill be but the Self fame Temporal Of- fice, commencing at fuch a Time. If I have hit your Thought at length, I affiire you, it has cod Me Ibme Fains ; and I wifli you would ex- prefs your felf more clearly hereafter. Now then, let us apply this Manner of Rea- foning to another Purpofe : By parity of Reafon I 4 we xio ^DEFENSE Qjj, VIL we may argue, that the Office of God the Fa- ther, commencing at the Creation ; I fay, the Office of Suftaining, Preferving, and Govern- ing the World, has no Relation to the Time fafi^ being but juft what it is, whether a lon- ger or a ihorter, or no Time at all be allowed for any prior Exiftence ; nor is it at all more perfed; for the eternal part Duration of his Be- ing. But does not this Argument fuppofe that the Office is liich as may be difcharged by a finite Creature, or one that began in Time? Certainly. And is not that the very Thing in Queftion in this, and in the other Cafe too ? Undoubtedly. How then comes it to be taken for granted ? Befides ; is not a Perfon of un- limited, that is, eternal Powers and Perfedions, more capable of dilcbarging an Office, than any Creature ? Well then , by neceflary Confe- quence, the /^ Duration of the Perfon is of great Moment in the Cafe ; and the Office muft be thought as much more perfed, for the eter- nal paji T>uratton of his Being, as God's Per- fedlions excel thole of his Creatures ; and that Is infinitely. Q^UERV Q^u.VlJI. effome Q^UERIES. iii Q^ u E R Y VIIl. Whether Eternity does not imply nccedary Exiftcnce of the Son ; "which is inconfiftent with the T>o^or''s Scheme ? And whether the'^'DoBor hath not made ^//elufive, Equi- vocating Anfwer to the ObjeBion , ^nce the Son may be a neceflary Emanation froyn the Father, by the Will and Tower of the Father^ without any ContradiBion? Wilf is one Thing, and Arbitrary Will another. TO the former part of the Query you anfwer, that fimple and abfolute Eter- nity is the fame with NeceiTary, or Self-exi- ftence ; which is no where fnppos'd of the Son , by T)r, Clarke. Here arc leveral Mi- flakes: For, firft, the Idea oi fimple Eternity is not the fame with that of Meceffary-ex- i ftence. Nor, fecondly, is it the fame with both Neceffary - exiftence and Self^ exiffence^ itippofing it were the fame with the former; becaufe thcfe two are not the fame. The Idea of Eternity is neither more nor lefs than duration without beginning, and without end. Some have fuppofed it poirible for God to have created the World from all Eter- nity ; and they u(e this Argument for it ; that whatever He could once do, He could always do. Not that I think there is much weight ia the %i% ^DEFENSE (^u.VIII. the Argument; but it is fufficient to iliow, that the I^eas are diftindi; and that, tho' Eter- nity may, in found Reafoning, infer or imply Neceffary-extftence , as is intimated in the Query ; yet the Ideas are not the fame : For if they were ; it would beNonlenfe to talk of ^;/^ inferring or implying the other. Then for the fecond Point ; it is very manifeft that the Ideas of Necejfary-extflmice, and Selfexijfence (how- ever they may be imagined with, or without Reafon, to imply each other) are not the fame Ideas. * Arijiotle , and the later Tlatonijis liippofed the World and all the inferior Gods (as Tlato and the "Pythagoreans, fome Sufra- mundane Deities) to proceed, by way of Emanation , without any Temporary Produ- d;ion, from a Superior Caufe: That is, they believed them to be Necejfary, but not Self- exijient. Something like this has been con- ftantly believed by the Chriftian Church, in re- fped of the Aoy(^ : Which ihows, at lead, that the Ideas are different ; and not only fo, but that, in the Opinion of a great part of Man- kind, they do not fo much as infer and imply each other ; one may be conceived without the other. However, that is not the Point I infill on now. AH that I affirm, at prcfent, is, that the Ideas are diftind ; and not the vepy fame. After you had laboured to confound thefe Things together, you proceed to argue againft * See Cudworth. Intelleit. Syftem. />. i^o, ^c» the Q^u.VIII. of fome (QUERIES. 113 the Son's being eternal. But what is that to the Query ? I fuppofed Dr. Clarke ( Reply ^ p. xi/.) to underfland the word Eternal, as I, or any other Man Ihould; and objcded the inconfiftency of acknowledging the Eternity of the Son , and yet denying his Necejfary ex- tjlence\ which, Eternity, I thought, infer'd and imphed.You admit my reafbning to be jufl:> if the Dodtor meant the lame, by Eternal, as I do. But if He meant by Eternal, Tempo- 7ary, then my Argument fails ; as moft cer- tainly it muft. But why arc we thus impofed on with fo manifeil an abufe of Words ? What occafton is there for putting the Epithets of Jimple, abfolute, or metaphyfical to the word Eternal^ which every one, that knows Englijhy undcrftands better without ? Unlefs you fup- poie that there is an unlimited, and a limited Eternity ; which is, in reality, an Eternity, and no Eternity. You proceed to difpute againft the Eternity of the Son; which tho' it be lomething foreign to the purport of the Query, yet being pertinent to the Caufe in hand, I iliall here con- fider it. You argue that, if the Son be Eter- nal, He is NeceJfarilyexiftiHg; which I al- low: and if Necejfarily- exijting , then Self- exijient ; which I * deny : and you cannot prove. * Aaacc fjjy^ 71?, TO un^ "Srf?? \:z!^ ovoixv ocy^vr.^Tii ?[{Cjjjhccvi7Zc, of^ otovj «/ r'ci. -^v^yiq eci(B->jriis/oc 7n7rr]fi6JUjivoi- eun V«!p ro iiv, oi>n ro mk, elre TO T£^ etiavav, tuvtvv i^ rd oiyivvtiTa, Alex'. Ep. apud. Theod. 1. 1. c. 4. p. 17. This was faid in Oppofition to the Arians, who were willing to confound the Idea of Eternity and of Necejfary- cxifiencct with Self-exiftencc The Learned Do^or cites this Pajjage, dire^ly againjl You S14 J DEFENSE Q^u. VIIL You go on to a new Confideration ; which, put into Syllogifm, (lands thus. Whatever has a frmctpum is not Eternal : The Son has a frincipum^ the Father being frincipiiim F'tlit Therefore, ©r. The middle Term, frinupum, is equivocal, and bears two Senfes ; wherefore the Syllogifm confifts of four Terms. \i principium be un- derftood in refped: of Time., the Minor is not true : '\i it be taken in any orher Senfe, the Major is not true: So that Both can- not be true. You might, in the fame way, argue that the Sun's Light is not coeval with the Sun ; nor Thought coeval with the Mind, fiippofing the Mind to think always. For, in both Cales, a frincipium is admitted; but no Priority, in refped: of Tir/ie. You add, that there is a reafonable Senfe in which the Son may be faid to be Eternal. I hope there is : But noiyonr Senfe ; which is juft as reafonable, as to lay ; an Angel is eternal, only becaufe you deter- mine not the Time when He came into Being. I fhould think it mod reafonable, to ufe Words, according to their obvious, and proper Signifi- cation; and not to fix new Ideas to old Words, without any warrant for it. In this way of going on with the abufe of Words, we iliall hardly have any left, full and exprefs enough Hhn/elf (Script, Doftr. p. 285.) It tvas intended, and is diametri- cally oppofite to the Dolors leading Principle , or rather 'Fallacy ^ which runs thro' his Performance, viz. That the Son cannot be Jiri^^ ly and ejfentially God, unlefs He be Self.exiftenr, or unoriginate m 9very Senfe, to Q^u.VIII. of fome QUERIES. iiy to diftinguifli the Catholtck Do in his Notes upon the Recognitions 0/ C/^?». p. 491' and byVctzwius, 1.6. c. 8. I.7. c. 12. See efpecially, Athaeaf. Orat. 3. p. 613. Bened. Ed. Epiphan. HaM-ef. 74. p. 85i5* f De Trin. \,\f. e.g. By ii8 ^ D E P E N S E Q^u VII? By this time, I prefume^ you may underftand what I meant by the latter part of the Query. There is a fober, Catholick Senie, in vvhieh the Son may be acknowledged to be by, or from, the fVill of the Father; and yet may be a necejfary Emanation alfo. And therefore Dr. Clarke did not do well in oppofing thofe two, one to the other ; as if they were incon- fiftent : Efpecially confidering that He produces feveral Authorities to prove the Generation to be by a * Tower of Will, in oppoficion to Necejfity of Nature, from Writers who af- ferted Both ; and denied only fuch a fuppo(ed necefjlty as might be againft, and a force upon the Father's Will. This is manifeft of his Cita- tions from xk\t \Cotincil of Sirmium, Marius^ ViBorimis, Bafil, and Gregory NyJfeJt ; and hath been clearly fliown by his Learned :j: An» tagonifl. The Sum of all is, that the Genera- tion of the Son may be, by NeceJJity of Na- ture ^ without excluding the Concurrence or Approbation of the Will. And therefore /F/7/, {i.e. conlent, approbation, acquiefcence ) is one Thing ; and Arbitrary Will, ( that is, free Choice of what might otherwife not be) is Another. You endeavor to prove, that the Son derives his Being from the Will of the Father, in this latter Senle; which is the fame thing with the making Him a Creature, You recite fbmc * Script. Doftr. p. 281, ^c. t Script. Doftr. p. iS;-, 186. % True Script. Dodr- continued, p. i jp, ^q. -. . ^ Saaps Q^u.VIII. of fome Q^UERIES. 119 Scraps of Quotations, as collcded by Dr, Clarke and Dr. Whitby, in your Notes (/. 51.) Not one of the Citations is to your Purpofe, or comes up to your Point. For inftance ; Igna^ this fays. * Chrift is the Son of God, accord- ing to the Will and Tower of God, Sup- pofing this not to be meant of his f miracu- lous Conception, and Incarnation, (which the Context has been thought to favour , and which Bilhop Tearfon inclined to , in his Notes) yet fee how many feveral Interpreta- tions it may beat, befides what you would fix upon it. I . The Frnit andOjf-f^ring of the Will and Tower of God: fignifyir>g no more than God of God, in the Senle intimated above, p 117. X. By the eternal Will and Power of God, in a Senfe likewife before intimated, and own'd by fome of the Tofl-Nicene Writers. ycfj{ ^uvxuutv ©sS. — Ignac. Ep. ad Smyrn. c, l. p. i. f I can by no means think, that the Son is here called, 'tfo? 0«», 'in refpeB of his Incarnation; which teas really his Nativity x.m.tu. (TzcpKx, to which this other is oppofed, and which muji therefore be underftood of fome higher Sonfhip. The Vhrafe of kcctu. crdpKX, has been conjlanth fo interpreted hy the Antients\ Irenseus, Tertullian, Origen, Novatian, the Synod CM ^h)tiv . And it is extremely pro' bable that Ignatius had the 'very fame Thought, Aop^ oii^i®^ cttk. uTTv a-iyyii; TT^iA^eov. ad Magnef- cap. 8- '^^va 'UiJqnifitions ; who, to ferve a bad Caufe, ufes a worfe Art ; f cuts the Quo- tation fliort at 'tjci/ a-jth; and then, to make his own Senfe out of that Paflage, inferts {Et) in his Tranflation, rendring it thus: ^li ex vo- Imitate Ipfius & T)eus eft, Et Filius ; leaving out, Et Angelus, to v/hich the former, Et, re- tohich is that of Novatian. Perfonte autcm Chrifti convenit ut 5c Deus fit, cjuia Dei Filius; & Angelus fir, quoniam paternss difpo- fitionis Adnunciator eft. Notat. c. 16. * lor J tho He n>as God, as being God's Soriy and a Son x-a-nl /Sy- A>)y, according to Juftin, and ether IVriters before mentioned', yet they did not think that He -was God, Koirat, ^iaX^-j. But becaufe He came forth, as a Son. from the Father y and was not prodiud t^ ctnc ovrav, (as all Creatures are) therefore He was God, having ever exified, before his Coming forth, in and with the father. Hic ergo quando pater voluit, proceflit ex Parre: 8c Qui in Patre fait, proceiTit ex Patre, Novat. c i6. + l-03itbf% Difqu, Modeft. p. 32. K % ferr'd. I3X ^DEFENSE Q^u.VIIL ferr'd. Strange that any jQiouId be fo refolutely eager to ungod their Saviour, as not to permit rhe caufe to have a fair hearing. It were pious, at leaft, to let the Reader know, what has, or what can be laid on the other fide of the Que- ftion ; and to give it its due Weight and Force. This is reafonable in any the moft trifling Mat- ter , that can come before us : But certainly much more lo, where ///j* Honour is concerned, whom All Men are commanded to Honour^ even as They Honour the Father, Joh. 5-. 23. For my own parr, I declare once for all ; I de- fire only to have Things fairly reprefented, as they really are; no Evidence fmother'd, or ftifled, on either Side. Let every Reader fee plainly what may be jujily pleaded here, or there, and no more ; and then let it be left to his impartial Judgement, after a full view of rhe Cafe : Mifquotation and Mifrepre- fentation will do a gooa Caufe harm ; and will not long be of Service to a bad one. But to return : The iecond Citation which you bring from Jiifttn, you give inch an Account of, as mud: make one think, either that you never law the Book you mention ; or elfe- but fee the Paflage in the * Margin. Your words are; He hath all the J'eTttles (before mentioned, viz. xJ (iiiXvifJuu%, f(^ c^ T» cCTTo r5 ^ocT^^q BsXyiTi ^ysw^c^. Dial. p. i8^ Jeb. It t! not from his being Begotten of the lather, that He hath all thefe Titles ,• but from that* and Ij4s u4dmin'tjlring to his 'Bather i WilU Both together, {not either fingly) tvill account for all thefe Titles. that Q^u.VIII. of fome Q^UERIES. 133 that of Son, Wifdom, Angel, God. Lord, and JVord) from his being Begotten of the Father by his lF'tll% diredly contrary to the whole Tenor of the 'Dialogue ; and the very imme- diate Words preceding thoie you cite. In your third Qiiotation, you are pleased, for the fake of Englijh Readers, to miitranflate 'ij;^e\V^&, produced, in ftead of, coming forth, or proceed- ing. Your next Citation is from Clement of Alexandria : In which I find no fault but your referring to Strom. 5*. inflead of Strom. 7. and bringing aPaffage not certainly perrinent to the Point in Queftion. If you pleaie to look into the *AuthorHimfelf, you will find it, at lead, doubt- ful, whether He be fpeaking of the Generation of the Son ; or only fliowing how He, by the Father's good Plealure, was at the Head of Affairs, and adminiftred his Father's Kingdom. Your next Author is \ Tertullian, who is in- deed fpeaking of the Generation, that is, Mani^ fejlation, or Coming forth, of the Son: And here you render protulit, produced, meaning into Being , or into a State of Exijience ; which is not TertulUan's Senfe, nor of any of the Fathers, who fpeak of that Matter. Ter- tullian exprefly \ excepts againft it : So does * Clem. Alex. Strom. 7. p. 83^. Ox. Edit. *\7nLv-mv r uyx^avy yoq KiviiTiNi;, ^vvccfjiji(; ocXrjTri'B^ o(.!^Vi(ri : » Vfl^p " ^*'» tStc aq ^H rviq iif/^i^aq. Com. in Joh. p. 5 1 . Compare with this, the Citatiom from Origen, in Pamphilus*^ Apology* ther «« Q^u.VIII. of fome Q^UERIES. 137 ther confirm'd by what ^ Athanajius quotes from Him, where Origen calls it Prcfumption ^ to afcrihe any Beginning to the Son ; and Ipeaks of the only begotten, as being <^ always with the Father. To Origen I may fubjoTi ^ Novatian, who fays the Son muft have al'^'ays exiftcd in the Father, or die (which He takes to be abiurd) the Father would not have been always Fa- ther. This, I thi.; can ,r no Scnle, un- leis always b::. undcriioo 1 ftricSlly. And it is very manifeU thir ^ Novatian iuppofes the Son to have cx^'^i before that '^Proc^jjion, Coming forth, cr Aativtty, which He Ipeaks of, in tha*: C'^'; ter. Some indeed have thought, that Novatian underftands not the word, Semper, there, in the ftrid: Senfe, of unhmited Dura- tion : Wherein, I humbly conceive. They are miftaken. I have tranfcribed the ^ PalTage into the Margin, and fliall proceed to explain its meaning. After ihe Author had faid. Semper a De Decret. Synod. Nic p. x^?. Ed. Bened. b ' Ivflt T5AM/i»(r«t<; 7J5 oip^yjv oi,} ilvxf 'if 5 t^^tt^cv CWX otTV^, C T» oin avviVToq xuTu Aoys jjjovoYivSii, d Semper enim in Parre, ne Pater non femper Pater, r. ;i. e Et qui in Parre fuic, proceflit ex Patre: & qui in Patrc fuit, quia ex Patre fuir, cum Patre poftmodum tuir, quia ex Patrc proceffit, f» 3 1 . f Hie ergo cum fit gcnitus a Patre. Semper eft in Patre. Semper autem fie dico. ut non innatum, ied natum probem j Scd qui ante omne Tempus eft. Semper in Patre fuilTe dicendus elt : nee enim Tsmpus llli alTignari potefl, qui ante Tempus eft. Semper enim in Patre, ne Pater non Semper fit Pater; quia & Pater Ilium etiam praecedit, quod necefle eft prior Sit qua Pater Sit: quoniam antecedat nfcefle eft Eum, qui habet Origincm, Ille qui Originem nefcit. eft 13^ A DEFENSE C^u.VJII. eft in TatrCy He immediately adds a Sentence which iliows that He underftood, Semper, as we lay, a parte ante. But withal there is a feeming Refl:ri(3:ion : Sic dico, tit non Innatum fed natum probem. There might be fome thejt, as well as now, who knew not how to diftinguiih between Eternity, and Self- existence. The Sabellians, in particular, might pretend that the Son, h^mgEternal, muft be the Self-exijient Father Himielf. It was therefore neceflary for the Author to guard, in the manner He does, againfl: any fuch Miftake, or Mifconftrudion. So Alexander Bilhop of Alexandria, while He maintains the ftrid: Eter- nity of the Son, to guard againfl: the invidious Miiconftrudion of the Arians, inferts the like Caution *. '* Let no Man, fays He, miflake *' Eternal, as if it were the iame with Self- '* exiftent, as {the Ariajts) having their minds *' blinded, are wont to do. This may ferve for a good Comment upon Novatian. To pro- ceed : Novatian adds ; Qui ante omne Tempus eft, Semper in Tat re fui[fe dicendus eft. Here He explains. Semper, by, ante omne Tempus. Now, this is the very fame, with Him, as if He had faid of the Son, quod non aliquando caperit ; as may appear by the f Account He gives of the Eternity of the Father ; explain- * See p. 123. •f Niii forte (quod abfit) ali(\uando effe czperit, nee fuper omnia i'jt, fcii dum port aliquid effe caeperir, inrra (leg. infra) id lit quod ante Ipfum fuerit, minor inventus poteftate, dum pofterior denota- rur ctiam Ipfo Tempore, Novat. c. 2. Murk thelorce of the^ words > ing Qy. VIIL of fo?ne Q\J E R I E S. 139 ing it by his not being pojlerior to Time : And his having no Time before, is the very fame, with having nothing ^ pre ct: ding. Wherefore, when Novatiau fpeaks afterwards of the Fa- ther's hoing precedent to the Son, He can mean it only in order of Nature, not in refped; of Tiiiration. And this I take to have been the meaning of the Cathohck Writers, before and after the rife of Arianifin, by the Phrales ante Tempus^ ^zs^ (LiCii'im^ ^u^ Tnxvjtay cticamy or the hke, as applied to God the Son. So ^Hilary. in the Name of the generaHry of the Chriftians of his Time, interprets it : So Alexander of Alexandria, in his Letter extant in Theodorit ; the ^ Sardican Fathers in their Synodical Epi- ftle ; and the - Catholick Billiops, upon the opening of the Council oi Artminum. Thus alio we are to underftand, ^zij^ 'Kh-m^ r c^XUmiy in the Conftantinopolitan Creed. The ^ Arians indeed, equivocating upon the Words, Time, and Ages, eluded the Cathohck Senfe, (till re- taining the Catholick Expreflions: But the Ante-Nicene Catliohcks were fincere, plain, Etiam Ipfo; intimating that fofteriority in Time is a loro degree of Fojienontyt and that a Thing might be /aid to be pofi'erior in a, higher Senfe than thatr viz. in Order of Nature, Ai we term it. a Id quod Iitiq Origine eft, pra^ccdi a nullo poteft, dum non ha- bcc TenipLis. IbiU. Tempus here mamfeftly Jigmfies Duration, in the largejl Senfe -^ not Time, in the refiraind Senfe^ as the Arians afterwards underfiood it. b Audiunt ante Tempora\ putant id ipfum, atue Tempora, efTe quod Semper eft. Contr. Aux. p. 1266. Comp. Trin. 1. 11. p. 1129. c Eccl. Hift. 1. I. c. 4, p- 15, e^c. d Apud Theod. E. H. 1. 2. c. 8. p. 80, 81. c Hilar. Fragoi. p. i?43. £d. Bcned. f See Athanaf. Vol. i. p. 418. Hilar. 1 129. Epiphan. Hser. 74. pag- 887. honeft I40 ^DEFENSE Q^u.VIII. honeft Men ; and do not feem to have known any thing of thofe iubtile Diftindions. They underftood thofe Phrales as they would be commonly underftood by the People; other- wife they would not have ufed them, without greater caution and referve. * S'tfimims long ago obferved (which confirms what I have been mentioning) that the Antients never would at- tribute any Beginning to the So7% of God, be- lieving Him to have been Co eternal with the Father. The curious Reader may obferve the ufe of thofe Phrafes, in the places refer'd to in the f Margin; all of them admitting, moft of them requiring, the Senfe I contend for. I men- tion not the Interpolator of Ignatius'^ Epiftles, an Arian, probably, of the fourth Century, or later. To return to Novatian : when He adds, Tempus tilt ajjignart nonpoteft: He does not mean only, that no particular Time of the Son's Exiftence \% ajjignable ; but, that it was before all Time, as Himfelf expounds it, ante Tern- pis eft, i. e. ftridly Eternal \ which agrees with what follows, and makes it Senfe : Sem- per en'tm in Tatre, ne Tater non femper Jit 7ater. What can be more exprefs for the Eternity of the Son, than to declare that the Father was never without Him? He plainly * Socrat. E. H. 1. f. c. lo. f Ignatius ad Magnef. c. 6. p. 2t. Juftin. Fragm. in Grab. Spic. Vol. 2. p. 199. Melito in Cav. H. L. Vol. i. p. 3?- Origen. in Pamph. Apolog. Hippolytus Fragm. Fabric. Vol.2, p. 19. Concil. Antioch. Contr. Paul. Sam. Lab. Tom. i. Dionyf. Alexandr. Refp, Contr. Paul. Q. 4. Lucian. Symb. apud. Socr. 1. i. c. 10. Vtd. etiam S nicer. Thefaur* in voce, Aim, fuppofes Q^u.VIII. of fome QUERIES. 141 fuppofes it abfiird to fay, that the Father was ever no Father, or, which comes to the lame, that ever the Son was not. What follows there- fore, in that Chapter, of the Father, pracedit^ and antecedat necejfe eji, &c. can only be un- derftood of a priority of Nature, not of Time, or T>urat ion \ and in This all Catholicks agreed. You'l excufe my dwelling lb long upon Nova- tian : it was neceflary, to clear his Senfe, and to obviate fome * fpecious Pretences, not only againft Novatian, but other Catholick Writers of whofe meaning there is lefs diipute. From hence may be underftood in what Senfe all the Oriental Biiliops (if the Fa<3: be true, relying only on the doubtful Credit of f Arius) might teach, '7r§ou7iap;\^eionyJius, Bifliop oi^ Rome, Contemporary with the other, declares that the Son is eter- nal, and that there 7iever was a time when the Son was not ; adding in Confirmation of it, that He is the IVord, the JViJdom, and the Tower of God. This, tho' it be exprefs for innatus eft. That is. He is narus, confiderd under any Capacity i 'X'hether as AoyC^, ^•Jmfjuic, or or^tii, or ), T»7S)y u'^t(^ av, 6 &io<;, it-m. l7rsnh>7rviy,(ra!h , Athan. Vol. I. p. l^^J. c Labb. Concil. Tom. 1. p. 85-3. 872. 864. d ^^eThirlhv's Defence of it: Afifw. ro Whifton, part Q, t.48. e^c. e E< '^ •yi'-^viv v[oc„ v)v 077 Ct^ y)v' ecu di i)V u yi cv tu tfutq^ i<^v, «5 a.uiic, (pT^c:, y^ ii Aoy^. y^ (Tz(pix , t(^ ^eit/jii 0 XeA^i* apud Athanaf. Dccret. Syn. N. 132. E<' Tvivw yipviv 0 'tjoc^ w art orx. k^ Ibid. This and Novatian'j Tefiimony, Both of the fame Age, may ferve to ilUtflrate each other- the Q^Li.VIII. of fime Q^UERIES. 143 the Eternity of the Son, yet is not full for eter- nal Generation ; unlefs it had been (aid, Eter- nal, as a Son, He might be fuppoled Eternal, as the i\oy(^\ and his Sonjhip commence after- wards. And therefore I do not put this among the clear ^ unexceptionable Authorities for eter- nal Generation ; chough hardly any realonabic doubt can be made of it, fince He iuppos'd the Father, xXi^Head, Root, Origin of the Aoy^. * Methodius (peaks more dole and home to the Point. For, upon the words of the Tfal- miji : Thott art my Son, this day have I be- gotten Thee-, He comments thus. *' It is ob- *' Jervable that his being a Son , is here in- " definitely expreis'd without any Limitation *' of Time. For He faid, Thou art^ not Tho7i *' becamfl my Son; (ignifying that He did ** not acquire any new Filiation, nor iliould *' ever have an end of his Exigence, but that ** He is always the fame. He f goes on to fpeak of his z.iitX' Filiation , intimated in the words, This day have I begotten Thee% and obfcrves, that it was more properly a Maui- feftation of Him ; confonant to what He had jaid before, that He could not have a new Fi- liation. This may relate either to what I be- fore called his Second, or to his Third Genera- * li/s€coern;^r,Tiev 'f> on ro yjiv vjov ctuTv* uvaj oftog^fjo? ciTrcP'/^vocrv, KXt ■*aV ilvxj usi r xCtvv, Apud Phor. Cod. 257. p. 960. ■f- n^ovTu *ihi TT^o T xicoveuv tv roV^ »^<*V(5j?, iWaAjj^f aOii ru n^T'jjf ytmcTfj, 0 ^ f^j rrto&it xyvo4u/f*»f yv&'gi^, Ibid, tion 144 ^DEFENSE Q^u.VIII. tion : The Words are ambiguous, and capable of either Senfe. To Methodius I may fubjoin ^amphilus , who» while He deHvers Oi'-igen's Senfe, in his Apology, does undoubtedly ipeak his own too. He is very * clear and full for the eternal Ge- neration, if we may rely on the Tranflator. Alexander, Biftiop of Alexandria, \ reckons it among the Singularities of Arius, that He would not own the Father to have been always {o ; but pretended that God was once no Fa- ther^ and that the Aoy@^ was produced in Time. I obferve, that thefe two Things arc here join'd together, as being Explanatory one of the other, according to the realbning of that Age, at leaf!:. And if the fame reaioning held before, as may be probably infer*d from ij: other PafKigcs of the Antients, then it will follow that as many as afTerted the Eternity of the Aoy(^ , or Word , which were all without Exception, did implicitely maintain the eter- nal feneration. It appears to have been a Maxim in the Church at this Time, that is, about the Year 315*, Ten Years before the * Inter Op. Orig. Ed. Bafil. p. 877-, •|- OilK Cis] 0 ©£05 TTOCT'/if ViV . uXX' W OTS 0 ©JO? ^CCTKf CtFK HV . CSV' ecu M" 0 ^ ©£» Aoy^i ^>^^* «| ^ '''"'^''^ ytpvtv, Alexand. Ep. apud Socr. E. H. 1. 1, C. 6. p. lO. 'Ao^^sfssT;?; ovv (^dviiin^e, t^ j| »« ovTav 'Jz^^itTBuc,, civxyKti rov TToun^ usi ilvxf Tsrccn^ec. Alexand. Ep. apud Theod. 1. I. c. 4. p. i 3. :|: The Charge brought againfl Dicnyfius of^ Alexandria ; and which He clear'd Him/elf of, was This: Ouk otii hv 0 ©jo? TrxTt^p; chc uu '■Jim'^% '^A/.'nv %9Ti'9Ti »» lv» Athan. Ep.de Scntent. Dionyf.p.zj-j. Council Council of Nice, that the Father was always Father. The iame we have iben, about Sixty- years before, from what has been cited out of T>iony flits of yllexandria, and Novatian. The Teftimony of * Origen, cited by 'Pamfhiliis^ with others mention'd, carry it .up Forty Years higher, to about the Year 210. Ire- nans, above Thirty Years higher, to about 173, within left than fourfcore Years of St. John. TertuUian , betwixt the Two lad named, feeras to have undcrflood this matter ditferently : For He fays plainly, that f there was a Time, when the Son was not\ mean- ing, as a Son ; and that God was not always Father. And this is agreeable to his Principles, who always fpeaks of the Generation as a vo- luntary Thing, and brought about in Time ; as do feveral other Writers. From hence aQiieftion may arife, whether there w-as any Difference of Dodrine between thofe Writers, or a Dif- ference in Words only. This is a Point which will deferve a jmoft ftrid: and careful In- quiry. The Authors who make the Generation 71?;^- porary, and fpeak not exprefly of any other, are thele following : Juftin, Athenagoras ^ Theophihts, Tatian^ TertuUian, and Hippo- * Non enim Deu?, cum prius non effet Pater, poflca Pater eiTc cx^h, z^c. Pamphil, A')cL p. 877. t Pater Deus eflr, & Judex Dcus eflr, non tamen ideo Pater 8c Judex femper, quia Deus Temper. Nam nee Pater eife potuit ante Fjliam, nee Judex ante delidlum.- Fuit'autem Tern pus cum tr, deliftura &; Filiui non fuit. Tertul, C^mr-. Hefwog. c. 3. . 1^6 ^DEFENSE Q^u.VIIL lytus. Novatian I mention not with Them, becaule He aflerted Both. Let us then care- fully examine what their Dcdrine was: And that it may be done the more diftincSly, let us reduce it to Particulars. I. They aflerted the Co- eternity of the Ao- 7@^, or Word, tbo' not confider'd prccilcly under the formahty of a Son. This, I prefume, is lb clear a point, that I need not burthen my Margin with Qiiotations for it. It iliali iuffice only to refer to the * Places, if any fliould doubt of it. *t was a Maxim with Them, that God was always Ao> any more than an eter- nal Mind could be without eternal Thought f. Some have pretended that the Ante-Nkene Writers, who ufed that kind of reafoning, meant only 2Ln Attribute, by the A 07©^; and not a real ^erfon. But there's no ground or colour * Juftin. Martyr. Apol. i. p. 522. Ok. Ed. Athenag. Legar c. lo. p. 39. Ed. Ox. Thcophilus Antioch. p. 82. 129. Ed. Ox. Tatian. p.20.22. Ed.Ox. Vtd. Bull. D.F. p. 109. Tertull. Contr. Prax. c. f . p. 5-03. c. 27. Vtd, Bull. D. 1'. p. 24 j. Hippolyt. Contr. Noet. c. 10. p. 15. E^//>. Ffibric, t See Bull D. F. p. 2C6, for Q^u.VlII. of fomc (QUERIES. 147 for this Pretence, as iliall be lliown prefcntly. I iliall only note here, that the * Toji-Nicene Writers , who , undoubtedly and confefTcdly , took the Aoy©^ to be a Terjon ; a real, eter- nal Perfon ; yet make ufe of the lame Maxim, and the very lame way of realbning. X. They did not mean by the Aoy®^? or Word, any Attribute^ 'Power ^ Virtue, or Oferation of the Father; but a real, fubfifting Perfon : whom they believed to have been al- ways in and with the Father, and diftmd: from Him, before the Temporary Generation they Jpeak of If this be well proved, other Mat- ters, as we fliall fee prefently, will be eafily adjufted. The learned . and judicious f Bifliop Bull has fufficiently iliown, of every Author fingly, (except JujHn, whom He reckons not with Them) that He muft be underftood to have believed the real and diftindt Perfonaiity of the Son ; before the Temporary Troceffion, or Ge- iieration mentioned. His rcafonings, upon that Head, have not been anfwer'd, and, I am per- fwaded, cannot : So that I might very w^ell fpare my Self the labour of adding any Thing farther. But for the fake of fuch, as will not be at the Pains to read or confider what He has faid an large ; I fhall endeavor to throw the Subftance * Athanaf. Vol. I. p. 414. 5-00. 619. Et alib?. Greg. Nyd. Cat. Orat. c. I. Cyril!. 1.4. in Joh. c. 48. Thefaur. p. 12. 23. Damafc. 1. I. Marc. Diadoch. p, 115-. f Defcnf. F. N. Sea, 3. c. f, 6, 7^ 8, 9, 10, L X of 148 ^DEFENSE du.Vim of it into a fmaller Compafs, in the following Particulars: Only prcaiifing this, that fince all thefe Authors, went, in the main, upon the lame Hypothejis ; They arc the bed Commen- tators one upon another : And wliatever Expli- cation we meet with in any one , two , or three, may reafonably (land for the Senfe of All ; if they have nothing Contradidory to it. Now to proceed. I. * Before the Vroceffion, or Generation, of which they fpeak, they fuppole the Father not to have been alone \ which it is hard to make Senfe of, if they only meant that He was with his own Attributes, Powers, or Perfedi- ons: As much as to fay, He was ici/^*, and great, and powerful by Himfelf\ therefore He was not alone. Alone, indeed, they own Him to have been, with reipedl to any Thing ad extra ; but with refped to what was in Him- lelf, He was not alone % not Jingle, but confid- ing of a Tlurality, having the Aoy®* always with Him. X. The fame AoV©"* or Word, was always f with Him ; convers'd with Him ; was, as it * MoKo? h 0 &io<;, y^ ci ccutiS 0 Xoy^. Theoph. p. 150. Awtp? ^ ««aA£iJ](^ viVo All vphich Words correfpond to the fever al Names' of the Son or Holy Spirit; A3yo5> (ra(pw, ^hmiiiKi, fiaM, (S' Trui^o',) and' mean the fame Thing, Hippolyt. p. 13. Coiitr. Noet- Solus autv-'m, quia nihil extrinfecus pia;rer ilium, caeterum ne tunc quidem Solus. Habebat enim lecum, quani habcbat in iemetipfo, Rationem fuam fcilicet. Tertftll. Contr. Frax. c. f- p. ^oytKVi^ Ayufj^iCJtij ootv^ }^ 6 ?iopq, oq i)V ci tcuT^, usri'^ffi, Tatian. C. 7. p.' 20. 'O Uu trvf/jTm^m cwr^, were Q^u.VIII. of fo?ne (QUERIES. 149 were, afTifting in Council, according to thole Writers; and therefore, certainly, a diftindl Perlbn. It would be very improper to lay that God was ^ /;/, or with one of his Attributes, or confiilted with it: All luch ExprclTions niufl: denote a diftind: Perfonality. 3. The lame individual Aoy©^? who after the ^rocejjion was undoubtedly a Terfon, is liippofcd to have exifted before. ^ Novatian is exprels. " He who was in the Father, pro- *' ceeded from the Father. It is the fame indivi- dual Ao7@"3 according to "^Theophilus, who is :xl^7:cLyrU, always, both before and after his Proceflion, with the Father ; and therefore, if He w^as a real Terfon after, which is not di- Iputed, He mufi: have been lb before. That ^ very Aoyo^, or Word, which had been from all Eternity cij^ia5e%^5 dv xxp^u. ©gj, becomes afterwards -^zj^cpogijco^. If therefore He was ever Theoph. p. 82. Tcv ovTU. ;^7TO.VT»$ Iv^iu^tw iv Kotp^ioi ©sj. Id. p. I ip. A little after, T«tov si^ a-vyjtaXov , iuvrS voZv t^ (p^vr.av CI/7Z6 ■ ■ rd' Xo'^/w aiiTcd ^!^7:a,VTtc, of/jiXav, Id. p, I 29. Si necefTaria eft Deo materia ad opera mundi, ut Hermogenes exiftimavit} Habuir Deus materiam longe digniorem Sophiam fuam rcilicec.—— 'Sophia autem Spirirus : Haec Illi Con/iliaritts fuir. Ten Contr. Hermog. Tat. p. 19. ' b Qui in Patrefuit, procciTit ex Patre, p. 31. Zeno Veronenfis, of the following Centurjy exprejfes it thus: procedit in Nativitatem, qui crat antequam nafceretur, in Patre. Which I add for Illujlration. c Pjg. 119, d Ta-ruv tvv Xo'-jiv lytyvvitrs z^-zX'; ci* h^tu,-^ sjiUvvn 'Tnuc, ©sg. c. i 1 pag. 14, Compare Theoph. pag. 129. Ifefore cited ^ L 3 ^Tet- ijo ^DEFENSE Q^u.VIII. a Terfon, He muft have been fo always. So again: The Aoy@* that Ipake to the Prophets, and who was undoubtedly a Verfon, is the ^ very lame individual Aoyoi, which was always with the Father; o liii ov/uLTra^cdv clvt-J, Tertul- lian^ who diftinguiihes between Ratio, and Sermo ; and aflerts the former to be Eternal, and the latter to be a Terfon-^ yet ^ connects Both in one ; and makes Them, in Subftance, the very fame; the felf-lame 'P^r/3;/ Both : on- ly fuppofed under different Capacities and dif- ferent Names, before, and after the Trcceffion. It was one and the fame Hyfojiafis-^ once Ratio (according to this Writer) and as fuch. Eternal; afterwards Sermo, and as fuch, ^a Son. The feeming difference between the antient Fa- thers upon this Point is eafily reconciled, fays a ^ very worthy and learned Trelate of our *' Church. One faith, God was not Sermonalis *' a princij)io,ox. hisfFord did not exiil till the *' Creation; others fay, Chrift is Aoy^^ 'A'l^o^j •* the Eternal Word, of the Father. They *' may all be underllood, in a found Senfe, '-^ with the help of this Diftindtion. The *' Word, as He is ///le'^r^ Speech formed from *' the Eternal Mind, was for ever with God; a Thecph. p. 8i, 82. b In ufu cftnoftrorum— Sej-wo^^fw^diccre in primordio apud Deum fuifTe, cum magis Rationem competat antiquiorcm haberij quia non Sermonalis a principio, fed Rationalis Deus etiam ante principium, 8c quia ipfe quoque Sermo Ratione confiftens , priorem earn ut Suhjlantiam ftiam oftendat. Contr. Irax. c. f. c See Bull. SeB. 3. <:. 10. d Bi(l:o^ of Lichfield md Coventry, Serm- p, 13, 14.. *' But Qu.VJir. of fo7ne (QUERIES. i^i " But as Gog's Agent to difplay and fotmd •* forth the Wifciom of God in external Works, •* as fiich. He exifted not till the Creation '* the Creation being, as it were, a verbal Ex- ** phcation of what Reafon had firfl: filcntly •* thought, diipofed, and rcfolvcd within it felf. 4. If there ftill remains any doubt of this Matter, there is a farther Argument to be urg'd, which may be jiiftly looked upon as clear, full, and dccifive in the Cale. Had thefe Fathers believed that the Aoy®-, or Word, was an At- tribute only, or 'Tower, See. before the Tro- cefjlon, or Generation, which they fpeak of; then it would follow, that the Son began firft to be, and was properly a Creature, gg ch^ oi'- lav, in their Opinion ; and that Troceffion was but another word for beinra; created. But theie Writers do exprcfly guard againfl: any fuch No- tion. * Novattan very clearly diftinguillies be- tween Troceffion and Creation. Athenagoras^ is ftill more exprefs to the lame purpofe; f de- claring that the Son was not then made, but |iad exifted in the Father, as the Aoy©^? or Word, from all Eternity. Juflin Martyr is the firft, and the moft con- fidcrable of thoi'e Writers; and therefore it will be proper to examine his Sentiments with a more particular care and exadneis. I have fe- * si Homo tantummodo Chriflus, quomodo dicit. Ego ex Deo frodit, Joh. 16. — cum conltat, Hominem a Deo Fiikum ejfe. non ex Deo VroceJJJJfe? c. 2;. ifcvroj r Xopv 6CiiiU(i 'Aoy.-.i^'i uv, c. \0. p. 2^. L 4 leded iS^ A DEFENSE Q^u.VIIL leded the moft material PalTages I could find, which may help to give us a' juft Idea of his Dodrine; and have placed Them in diftindt Columns, in the * Margin. It would fignify little to tranflateThem; becaufe the Arguments arifing from them are proper only to Scholars. I have diftinguiih'd the feveral Citations by Figures, for the more convenient referring to Them. I.I oWerv.c, firft, {See^. i, 2.) chat He makes kymy\'u><;^ equivalent to ^(pOsipI©- and kih^ ^ 0 o'i nXuTUv, TO ilv. ix-ocr-tpefi •) T li^-/)!lji'J&'V Tol CCil CVTl 0£S .^S^C7l>i.eiV yocfi uurtv — . Tov (A kyivj-.tTov ccfjiov ^iva^.^ Paraen, p. 90, 91. Ox. 2. '^OffTx, yup iy. "pTi [AiVi iaiv. Parxn.. p. 87,. 4. Kjvof/jci> TO) 7ni,v7r,'V rrcf-rf^i l^iTOV, UyiVVViTU OVn, dnC i?lV. CO ^h Qurt^ov 'i^i r ^if/jivoy to cvc^, TO hi ncinp, . .1 05 iCj Aoj5^ \}^cipx.i. Apoi. I. p. izzjiig. Cor?ipare the Citations before gixen in p. 37. 6. 'O. OS '^Q 0fo<; Tr^Tixyo^ivf/jX. CJ57C- ovofjuce. i be ^t, in this Senfe, iygiT/jTc^ and a(p8a/)TD$, He is not 0ei^, according to Juffin Martyr : And yet no Man is more cxpreis than JuJI'm, every where, in making the Son 0505;. and infifting very much upon it. 3. Jujiiu makes 0 oi/ equivalent to the Pla- ronifts to oV. (See N. i.) And either of them * I need but hint th:xt the words uyivv^'^ and Ity.v^t'^, with dou- kle or firtgle v, have been ufed -very pr om'ifciuyujiy in .Anthony and hardly came to be accurately dijling!iijj}\l, iid the Arian Controverfy gave occajion for it. See Suiccr's Thcfiurus, upo7i the Ecclejiajlicdl life of thefe Words: and Cudworlh. for profane Writer s, p. 2^3,15*4. The Son is properly «:7ii':;i'§>-, as -weU as the Father \ fo Ignatius, fo Irenseus, fo Origen exprefy Jides Hitm and Athenagoras'; » y.vo- f/jcv'^, is to the fame effect. The fimilitiide of the Word and Sound ytras, very pi^Jpiblyy the chief Reafon -why the Title of oiysr^,(^ Tt-\)y liro rrriinTzoi 6ii7ru, r^ iMe* :ittTu^oXm, Fabric. Vol. 2, p, 2$* Origen w* have fern before. man- ijS ^DEFENSE Q^u.VIII. manner only, of cxprefling the fame Things^ The Queftion was nor, whether the Hypojiajis, or Terfon, of the Son was from all Eternity, co-eval with the Father and coniubftantial with Him; in That, rhcy all perfedly agreed. Nor was there any difference about the 'ProceJJion : for the * latter Writers acknowledged it as well as Thofe before them ; and made it Temporary and Voluntary, as Thofe did. But the Que- ftion was, whether, the Son's eternal Co-ex- iftence, (I fliould rather fay, the co-eternal Ex- iftence of the Aoy@") lliould be deem'd Sonjhip and Filiation or no ; or whether the Procef- fion might not m^ore properly be fo Hi led. Tertullian (and perhaps Others) was of Opi- nion that this latter was \ perfect a Nat iv it as Sermonise The perfeB Nativity, or Birth of the Word: who had been, as it were, quiefcent and tin-operating from all Eternity, till He came forth to Create the JVorld: And \Hip' folytus carried this Notion fo far, as to think the Filiation not compleated, till He had run thro' the laft fort of Sonihip, in becoming Man. AH this is true, in Ibme Senfe, and when right- ly expiain'd. But other Fathers thinking this way of ipeaking liable to abufe and mif con- * Vid. Bui]. Def. F. N. Scft. 3.09. f Contr. Prax. c 7. :^ Contr. Noet. c. 15-, p. 17. Owtt ^ ^o-sipxo? j^ x«9-* ioLvrov i A07©- 7tA«b5 i)v 'ijoq, Kiof Tvt TsAfifl? /\c^5 ei)-/ f/^voytvyi^. It is remirk' tihle, that He makes the Son perfeBly [jovcy.w,c„ iho not perfeciiy '««?, before the Incarnation. Others might perhaps reafcn, in like manner^ Ts:th regard to the jr^/Asj/cn^j thinking Him to hfive been Aoy®-, or f/^voyivviCi before it^ but m$ '*|«s. llrudion. Q^u.VIII. of feme Q^UERIES. lyr; ftiudion ; and confidering, probably, that the Ao7®^5 ^r Word , might ^ properly be called Son, in rciped of that erernal Exigence which He ever enjoyed /;/, and from the Father as the Head, Root, Fountain, and caufe ol All; they choie to give That the Name of Genera- tion ; and to call the other Two, ^ Condefcen- fions, Manifeflattons, Proceeding forth , or the like. So we have (een it in Methodius^ before cited for the eternal Generation : And He, very probably, had the notion from ^Ju- fin Martyr:, who, in like manner, interprets Generation, in the fecondary Seiyife, by Mani- fefation. And even ^ Hippolyttts, as before obferved, explains the Troceffion, or Genera- tion of the Son, a little after the Creation, by Manifeftation of Him. a Omnls Or'go parens efti omne quod ex Originc profertur, progenies eft. Tertull. Centr. Prax. c. 8- See Novat. ahcve, p. 141, Ti'jva, f/jiv nv -A^ 6 jjAio? mv of^^v, EuT. Eccl. Th. 1. i. c. 12. p. 75, To £x Tivoq (j7Tuf>;^ov \oq s?iv iKiivity ii ^ ^ i?iv. Athan. Orat.4. p. 6tS» b // is ohfer'vable that Juftin Martyr applies the voDrd Tr^tuTi^.c^ t9 the latter of them, as well as to the Former. Dial- 2.2S. Jebb. And^ in like manner ^ Clement a/ Alexandria ufes yr^iX^av of Both, p. 65-4.. ««^ Hippolytus, of the latter. Contr. Noet. c. 17. c On the words, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten Thee^ He comments thus. Tore y.vicnv ccor^ y^tyjov ^vsv -TToitT, c. 10, p. 1^. A little before He had /aid Toiv Jf y.vof/jiva/v up^Tiyo* t^^ (nj/uu^a^ev xui l^yurlM ryivvcc >^epv, ov Aoj^v iri(^u» iv ictv-nS eco^Tvv re ovtu, tm y.Ti^ofJCiVM H^cru^u^i^TBV vnnsT, TTp^-n^ccv (p^VAV ^Biyfof^oq, ^ cpa(; Ik (puroc, yivvav. The Words of Zcno Veroncnfis may be added, as a good Comment upon the former. Cujus (Patris) ex Ore, ut rerum natara, quae non crat, fingeretur, prodivit Unigenitus Filius, Cordis ejus Nobilis In- quilinus; cxinde vifibilis eflfedus, quia Humanum genus vifitaturus »rar, ^c» After i6o y^'DEFENSE Q^u.VIir. After Arius arofe ; the Catholicks found it highly neceflary to infift much on the \ternal Generation. For, the Avians, raking advan- tage ^f it, that the Temporary Condefcenfion of the Son, to create the World, had been often caUed his Generation, were for looking no higher ; but artfully infmaared that this was the iix^ produEfion of Him ; an*d that it was ablurd to talk of the Son*s cxifting before He vviis be- gotten: in oppofirion to which pretence, we find the Nicene Fathers anathematizing fuch as ihould lay, that the * Son exifled not be- fore He "jvas BEGOTTEN ; meaning in the Senfe now explained. However, the Arians might have known that the eternal Exiftence of the Aoy@" was univerfaUy Taught; and even by thofe who afferted a Temporal Generation. Nor indeed were they ignorant of it ; but f they contrived, for a Salvo, to maintain, that the Aoy@") oi* Word, whi^was held to be Eter- nal, was not the faitte with the Aoy®- ^ or IVord begotten; the former being only the Father's own proper Word, and no iubftantial Thing ; the latter, a created Subftance, dired- ly contrary to all Antiquity which has no- thing to countenance any fuch Notion of a two- fold Aoyoi. Upon this, it became neceffary to explain in what Senfe any Temporal Genera- tion had been aflerted ; and to keep up the true Catholick Dodrine, which had obtain'd t See Bull. Def. F. p. 198. fronj Q^u.VIIL of fome Q^UERIES. \6i from the Beginning; namely, of the Eternal Aoy©^ diftindt from the Father ; Son of the Father, as partaking of the fame divine Sub- ftancc from all Eternity ; * going out from the Father to create the World ; and laftly conde- Icending to become Man : Son, in all thele re- fpecfts, but primarily and chielly in refpedi of the firfl:. From the whole, \vc may remark, that an explicite Profelfion of eternal Gene- ration might have been difpens'd with; pro- vided only that the eternal Exiftence of the Aoy@", as a real fiibfifttng Terfon, in, and of the Father, (which comes to the fame Thing) might be fecured. This was the point; and this was all. In this, all found Catholicks agreed; and to difpute it, was accounted Herejy, and Blafphemy. If any one, ditliking the Name, or the Phrale of eternal Generation , thinks it better to afTert an eternal Word, inftead of an eternal Son, ( meaning thereby a di- ftind: Perfon , and confubjlantial with God , whole Word He is) and refers the Generation to his firfl: and fecond Manifejlation , at che Creation and Incarnation-^ there feem,s to be no farther harm in it, than what lies in the Words, and their liablenefs to be mifconflirued. * Th'ii is well exprefi'J by the Anriochian fathers, again/l Paul of Samofataj and hy Clement of Alexandria. ToS-rrv 7nrEuofx,iv trbv tco T oXiov, Labb. Cone. Tom. i.p.84y Tiy.vov xCri 'yv^.(nof, x^ kXvi^ovc- u^Vy cocoT^ Irrt tjvcc ^ivirnUv c^tuZJic Tn'/jTrooS^ov, utto fjuiyuX^ii ciKo- "^ xia)s Inftru- ments only in the hand of fome other Tower* Reply, pag. ^^J, Compare p. 113. * Oltn ^uo ecy tvv^oi, oirs ^0 f/^^voymtik' iAA' ti^ 8^ Txryif oiymt}^ yt^vyjyjiic^. Cyril, Catecb. 10. p. 141. Ox. M 3 Again l66 .^DEFENSE Q^u.IX. Again (/. xxS.) *He finds fault with the Au- thor offome Confiderattons, for fuppofing that the Son is fomething more than a meer Name^ and yet not a real dijlhi^ Being: And upon this lays down another Aphorijm ; that there IS, no Medium between a Being, and not a Being: which indeed is a very true one, if Being, and Beings are taken in the lame Senfe ; bqt not otherwiie. For let me mention almofi: a parallel Cafe. Upon the Dodtor's Hypothejis, that God's Subjiance is extended every where; and that the i'ame \^ the Subjlratum of Space \ we may imagine two Subjlrata, one pervading the Sun, and the other the Moon, which are both diftind', and dillant. Will you pleafe to tell us, whether thefe two are real dijlin^i Be- ings, or no ? If They are, you may leave it to others to prove them intelligent Beings, that is, ^erfons: And, perhaps, the very next con- fequence will make them two Gods, upon the Dodor's own Principles : If they are not real dijlin6i Beings \ then here is fomething admit- ted between a Being, and not a Being ; con- trary to the Doctor's Maxim: unlefs He makes i\\cvs\ Nothings and fiippofes two Spaces, with- out any Subjiratum at ail; two Extenjlons, without any thing extended. But let us eonfider, whether fomething may not be thought on, to help both the learned * To avoid i his Con fcquefice^ He is forced to fuppofe (pag. 29.J that the Son is fomething more than a mere Name, and yet not a real ffiftinft Being i that is to fay, that He is fomething between a Being, >wcl not a Being. CL Reply, p. 223. Dodor Qu.IX. oj fome Q^UERIES. 167 Dodor and Us out of thcle Difficulties. The Truth of this Matter, fo far as I apprehend, is, that Bemg may fignify, either, firaply, what Exijis'^ or what exifts Separately. This Di- ftind:ion ktm^ to be juft, and necelTary ; and iuch as you'l the more readily come into, having occafion for \i, as well as we. I hope, none are fo weak, as to deny the Verfons to exift in reality. The very School-Men Themfelvcs never Icruple to call Them Tres Res^ Tres elites, or the like, in that Senfe ; tho', at the lame time, in the other Senfe o( Bemg, They are all but one Being, una Jumma res, and una res 7'iumero\ which comes much to the fame with Tertullian's una (indivifa) Subjiantia in Tribtts coh£rentibtis\ (onlyfetting afide his par- ticular manner of Exphcation) and is the Senfe of all Antiquity. Upon the Foot of thisDiftindioD, you may readily apprehend thofe Words of Gregory Nazianzen, fpoken of the three Per- 5 \ii x^^'^^"^'^"^^^ '^^ ^X'^^^ *• ^y ^^^ fame Di- ftindion, you may, probably , underftand a very noted Creed-, which feems to have coft the learned Doctor lome Pains in explain- ing. To return to our Inftance of the Two Subftrata. I fuppofe the Dodor, or your lelf, will be content to allow% that This is Subjiance, and That Snbjlance ; and yet not Subjiances, but one Subftancc. In hke manner alfo, This ♦ Orat. 13. p. 211. Parif. Ed. M 4 is i68 ^DEFENSE Qjj.lX. is Being, and That Being ; and yet not Two Bemgs, but one Being: This Eternal, and That Etemal ; and yet not Two Eternals, but One Eternal. I might go on almoll; the length of an Athanafian Creed. This muft be your manner of Ipeaking, if you come to Parti- culars ; and that becauie the Subjirata are fup- pofed to have no feparate Exiftence independent on each other, but to be united by fome com- mon Ligaments, which perhaps you'l call per- final Attributes. And why then lliould you be ievere upon Us, for ufing the like Language, and upon better Reafons? We believe the Three Perfons to have no feparate Exiftence indepen- dent on each other; we fuppoie Them more united, in fome refpeds, than the Subjirata are fuppos'd in your Scheme; becaufe equally pre- fent every where : We admit Ibme common Ties or Bands of Union, which we call ejfen- tial Attributes and Perfedions. Either there- fore allow us Our way of Ipeaking ; which we think decent and proper ; iuitable to the Idea we have, and to the Circumftances of the Cafe ; founded in the very Nature and Reafon of Things : Or elfc , find out a better for your Own; that we may, at length, learn from you, how we ought to Ipeak in this Matter. You will fay, it may be, that the Inftance I have cholen, is not exadtly parallel in every Circumftance. No ; God forbid it fliould. But it agrees fo far as is fufficient for my pur- pofe. There is this manifeft difference,, that you Q^u.lX. offome (QUERIES. 169 you fuppole the feveral Snbjtrata fb many farts of God; tho' every one of Them in- finitely Wife, infinitely Good, infinitely Power- ful, infinitely every Thing, but extended. We, more confiftently, iuppofe Three Perlbns equals in all refpedis ; none of them Jingly part of God ; but every one perfed: God. A fecond Dinerence is, that you fuppofe all x\\t finite Parts, making one Infinite, to be one Being, one God, and one Terfon\ by Conti- fiuity, I preiiime, and a /^r/5;//^/ Union of the Varts. We fuppofe Three Perfons to be One God, by their hifeparahtlity and the ejfential Union of the Terfons : Which, I humbly con- ceive, we are as able to explain, as you are to explain the other; and I hope, more able to prove it. A third Difference permit me to mention , that you fufFer your Imaginations to wander, where you can find no Footing ; we are con- tent to underfiand only, and that imperfedlly, without imagining at all. In fine, you have philofbphiz'd fo far, in Thele high and deep Matters, that you feem to want all the fame favourable Allowances, which we are thought to do. Others may objed: feve- ral Things to us, which would bear equally hard upon us Both. The fimplicity of the di- vine Nature, for Inftance, is one of the ftrongefl and molT: popular Objections : But the learned Dodor has broke through it ; and has contrived a Solution, a very good one, both for Himfelf and 170 ^DEFENSE Q^u.lX. and Us*. I have often thought no Hands fb pro- per to be employed againft the Dodrine of the BlefTed Trinity, as Thole which are good only at pulling down, and not at building up. If once you come to fettling and detcrmming Points of a myjierious Nature ; there will be as fair a Plea for This alio : And I doubt not but the fame Thread of Reafoning, which firft brought you to queftion it, will, when carefully purfued, and as foon as you perceive the like Difficul- ties almofl: in every thing, bring you to make lefs Scruple of it. But left others lliould ima- gine, from what hath been faid, that They may have fome Advantage over us; let me add thefe few Confiderations farther. 1. That what hath been urged, is not pure- ly arguing ad Homtnem^ but it is appealing to what good Senfe and impartial Realon didtates equally to You, or Us ; on liich, or fuch Sup- pofitions. 2. That if we come to reafon minutely on any other Matter, alike incomprehenfible as This of the Holy Trinity, we may foon loie our felves in inextricable Mazejs. 3. That if They pleale to take any other Hypothejis of the Omnipre fence , They may meet with Difficulties there alio, perhaps not inferior to the former. 4. That if They chufe to reft in generals^ without any Hypothejis at all, and without de- fending to the Modusy and Miniitia of it ; ♦ Aniver to the Sixth Letter, p. 39, 40. This Qjj.lX, of fome Q^UERIES. 171 This is the very Thing which we defire, and contend for, in regard to the BlcfTed Trinity (which ought certainly to be equally dealt with) and then \vc inav loon come to a 2>ood Agree- iiient. By purfuing this Point, T had almofl: neglect- ed the learned Doctor's Third Aphorifm: That nothing Individual can be communicated. Here is as great a Fallacy and Ambiguity in the word Individual, as before in the word Being, I ihall make This plain to you. That particular Subftance , which is fuppofed to pervade, and to be commenfurate to the Sun, is an individual Being, in ibme Senfe ; unlefs there be a Medium between a Being and not a Beings which the learned Dodor admits not: The whole Subflance likewile is one individual Being , and Terfon too ; upon the Dod:or's Hypothefis : And we fay farther, that three Perlbns may be one individual Being; having, we think, a very good meaning in it. So here arc plainly three Scnfcs of the woxA Individual-^ and rill you can fix a certain principle of Indi- viduation, (a Thing much wanted, and by w^hich you might oblige the learned World) any one of thele Scnles appears as jufl: and reafon- ablc as another. Now, the Dodior's Maxim, riglitly undcrilood, may be true, in all thele Senfes. For, in rcfped: of the Firfl, what is peculiar and proper to one Part, is not com- municated, or common to other Pares : In re- Ipedt of the roj>er to onelP^r- fon. I7X ^DEFENSE Qjj.lX, fon, is not common to other Terfons : And fo, in refped: of the Third, what \% proper to one Effence or Subftance, is not common to other E [fences or Siibftances, All this is very true : but to what purpofe is it, or whom does the learned Dodor contradid ? This is only telling us, that fo far , or in fuch refpeEi , as any thing is fuppofed individual or incommunica- ble^ it is fuppofed individual or incommnnica- ble\ which no Body doubts of. But whether This, or That be communicable, or how far, or in what manner (which is all the difficulty) remains a Queftion as much as ever; and the Dodor's Maxim will not help us at all in it. It may be the (afeft way, firft to try the ftrength and the ufe of it upon the Dodor's own Hy- pothefis. Let it be ask'd, whether the Wis- dom, &c. refiding in that Part which pervades the Sun (for it leems that it muft be intelli- gent^ and infinitely fo ; unlefs one infinite In- telligent be made up of 'Vnintelligents , or finite Intelligeiits) I fay, let it be ask'd, whe- ther that be the very individual^Hdom which refides in another Part, at any given Diftance. I prefumc, to this Queftion, you muft anfwer, Tes : And then we are to obferve, that here is but one individual infinite Wifdom, which is entirely in the whole, and entirely in every part ; proper, in Ibme Scnfe, to each fingle Part (fince it can have only fuch Attributes as inhere in it) and yet common to All; T>tf fifed through extended Subftance, yet not Co- Q^u.IX. of fome QUERIES. ijy Co-extended : Nor multiplied, bccaule buc One, If you admit thus far, as I think you mufl:, we ihall have nothing to apprehend, in point of Reafon (which neverthelcls is what you chiefly trufi: to) againft the Dodrine of the Trinity. The Communication of Ejfential Attributes, which we fpeak of, is, at lead, as Intclhgible lis what I have been mentioning ; and every whit as confiflent with the Dodor's Maxim, that nothing which is Individual can be Communicated, Only You have j(5//r Senle of Individual, and We have our's ; and You can account no better for fo many, and infinite- ly diftant Parts making one Terfon, than We for three Perfons making one Subjlance, or one God. Let us therefore be content to flop where it becomes us ; and frankly confefs our Ignorance of thefe Things. For, by pretend- ing farther, we Ihall not difcover Icfs Ignorance than before, but much greater Vanity. I w^ould not have prefumed to difcourfe thus freely of the tremendous Subflance of the eternal God (infinitely furpailing Human Comprehenfion ) were it nor, in a manner, necefTary, in order to cxpofe the Folly, and the Prefumption of doing it. If the Dodrine of the BlefTed Trinity is to flajid or fall by this kind of reafoning, it was very proper to make fome Trial of it firfl, where it might be done ruore fafely, to fee how it would anfwer. You, I prefume, cannot com- plain of me, for treating you in your own way; and turning upon you your owo Artillery. But to 174 ^DEFENSE Q^u.X. to proceed; You are poficive in it, that' the Son of God hath not the individual Attributes of God the Father \ for then, iay you, He muft be the Father. On the contrary, I affirm that He hath the individual Attributes of God the Fathe!-, as much as He has the individual Ef- fence: For, otherwile He mud be ^Creature only : And therefore the Qucftion between you and mc, in plain Terms, is, whether the Son be God, or a Creature, Q^ u E R Y X. Whether if They (the Attributes belonging to the Son) be not individually the fame, they can be any thing more than faint Refefn- blances of them, differing from them as Finite from Infinite ; and then in what Senfe, or with what Truth, can the T)oEior fretend that * all divine Powers, except ab- folute Supremacy and Independency, are communicated to the Son ? And whether every Being, be fides the one fupreme Be- ing, muft not neccffarily be a Creature, and finite; and whether all divine Powers can be communicated to a Creature, infinite Teffe5tion to a finite Being ? I Have put under One Query , what before made Two, becaufc the Subftance of Then! IS nearly the fame; and contains but one Argu* ment. I have two Things upon my Hands at * Script. Boar, p. ipS. ^^^^ 5 Q^u.X. of fome Q^UERIES. 17J once; firft ro clear and fix your Scnfe, which is induftrioufly dif^uifcd ; and next ro confute it. The preient Query relates chiefly to the former, to draw you out of general and ambi- guous Terms , that fo we may come up the cloler, and fall dired:Iy to the point in Queftioru You tell me , in anfwer to the former part , that the divine Attributes of the Son are not individually the fame ^i^ith thofe of the Fa- ther *. By which you mean that they are not T)tvine : And {o here you have difcovercd, that the Dodor does not underftand "Divine, as others do in this Conrroverly ; and as a candid and ingenuous Reader might be apt to under- ftand Him. You add, that They ( the Attri- butes of the Son) are, notwithfl:anding» more than faint Refemblances ; the Son being the Brightnefs of his Fathers Glory, and the ex-^ frefs Image of his Terfon. I allow that this Text does fet forth a ereat deal more than a faint Refemblance : Bur you have not fliown that your Hyfothefis luppofes lb much; and therefore the quoting of this Text is only ar- guing againft your felf. The Inference we draw from this Text, confonant ro all Antiquity, is, rhatr the Reftmiblance between Father and Son is compleat and perfed:; and that therefore They do not differ as Finite and Infinite, fince that Suppofition would fet Them at an Infinite d^ftance from any luch perfed and compleac Refemblance, You obferve farther, that there * Pag. ^4. can 176 ^DEFENSE Q^u.X. can be but one Intelligent Being ( the fame, with you, as Terfon) ahfolutely infinite in all rejpeffs, {f-SS-) which, tho' an AlTertion of great Importance, you are pleased barely to lay down, without the leaft tittle of Proof, or lo much as pretence to it. Nay, you admit in your * Notes, that there may be two Infinite Beings, in the Senle of immenfe-^ that is, two Beings omniprefent , or infinitely extended. And why not as well Tw^o Perfons infinitely perfed: in all other refpeds, as well as pre- fence ? For to uie your own way of arguing, in that very Place: li finite Power, Wiidom, Goodnefs, iSc. do not exclude Infinite-, it is plain that infinite Power, Wildom, Good- neis, ®^. of One, do nor exclude the infinite Power, Wifdom, Goodnefs, @r. of Ano- ther. Befides that Two , Infinite in All re- fpeds, are as eafily conceived, as Two, In- finite in Any : And therefore, here you feem, by your too liberal ConcefTions, to have un- faid what you had faid before ; and to have un- ravelled your own Objedion. You are aware that an Adverlary may take advantage of what you fay ; and endeavor, lamely, to prevent it, by telhng us (/. 5*6.) that, tho' it be poffible * One Infinite, in the Senfe of imnienfe, does not {by taking up aU Space) exclude {neceffarily) an other Imme-nfe, any mare than it excludes ayiy Finite. For if a finite Being doth not exclude (God) from a finite Place, it ts plain that an Infinite, that is, an immenle. Being cannot exclude Htm from Infinite, that is, from immenfe Tlace. So that perhaps it is no fuch abfolute inipoilibility, as fom^ have thought it, to fuppo/e two diflindl ifnmenfe Beings. Not. p.^d. to Qu.X. of fome Q^UERIES. 17? to fuppofe two dtjim[i immenfe Beings, yet it is impofTiblc there iliould be two immenlc Be- ings of the fame individual Nature ; for 'io^ They mud: coincide, and be but one Terfon. But what if thole who aficrt the fayne indivi- dual Nat tire, in more Perfons than one, un- derftand the Words in a larger Scnfc than yoa here take Them in ? It is very certain, they do not underftand the Phrafe of the fame indivi- dual Nature, as You. who make it equiva- lent to the fame T^erfon, underftand it ; For, they afTert more Perfons than one to have the fame individual Nature. In the mean while, what a wonderfiil dilcovery is this, u^hich you have laid fuch a ftrefs on ; that two Terfons cannot be one Terfon, with- out coinciding and making one Terfon. This is all that you have really faid ; and very true it is; only I am at a lofs to find out the pertinency of it. To conclude this Head : As to Infinite in the Senfe of Extenfion^ ( into Length, Breadth and Highth ) you will give me leave to fufpend my Judgment. I do not find, either that it is afferted in Scripture, or generally maintained by the Fathers; but that it is liable to many Diiiiculties , in point of Reafon, more than I am, at prefent, able to anfwer. See what a * late thoughtful Writer has faid, and what | Cudworth had before Colledl" * Impartial Infjulry into the Exiftence and Nature of God, by S. C Part 2. C. I, 2, 5. t Jntelleciml Sy/i. pag. 818. to p. S34* N €d 178 ^DEFENSE Q^u.X. ed on that Subjed:. In ray Hurable Opinion, fuch intricate Queflions are too high for Us; and are what our Faculties were not made for. However that be, You and I need not differ. For, if You can admit the pofTibiHty of Tizo infinite extended Beings, You can have no- thing confiderable to objed: againft the one In- finity of Three infinite Perfons, which I aflert, and without determining the modus of it. You proceed to obierve, that the Son's Office andChara^er doth not require infinite lowers: To which I fliall only fay, that it may, for any thing you know ; fo that this is only guefling in the Dark. Lafl: of all, you come to interpret Dr. Clarke ; fuppofmg Him to mean by "Di- vine Towers, * all divine Powers relating to the Son's CharaBer. If He meant fo, He might eafily have faid fo : And yet if He had, He had dill left us in uncertainties as much as ever; to mufe upon a Diftindion, which He has no ground for; and which, when admitted, will make no Man wifer. You ho^e , the ^erift is fo good a Thilofopher as to per- ceive ^ ( tho' He doth not co7ifider it ) that abjolute infinite TerfeBions include and in- fer Supremacy and Independency. And there- fore ^ when T>r. Clarke excepted Supremacy and Independency , He plainly , in Reafon and Confequence , excepted abfolute infinite Towers. * ^cnp. Bo^r, p. 2518. Now Qjj.X, of fome (QUERIES, 179 Now, I am perfwadcd, ihat Dr. C/arke would have thought it hard mealure to have bjcn charged, by his Adverfaries, with this \o flam Confeqnence , which you here lb freely lay upon Him. The ^leriji was aware that the Dodor's words might bear an orthodox Senfe ; namely, that to the Son are communicated all things belonging to the Father, excepting only \^\\2X v^T er final \ that is, excepting that He is not the firfi in Order ; not Supreme, in that Senle, nor ^n-originate. The Doctor well knew that His words might bear this Conftru- d:ion ; and perhaps would not have took it well of any, bat a Friend , that ihould have tied down a loofe and general Exprelfion to 2ijtri6{ particular Meaning ; and then have loaded it with Confequences too fliocking to be admitted in plain and exprefs Terras. But to proceed : You ieem to be much offended at the Querift, for asking, PFhether all divine T^Gwers can be communicated to a Cre attire^ in fir it e 'Per- fiction to a finite Beingl: I'his, you fay, is an evident ContradiBion ^ which ought not to have been put bj one Scholar upon Another. But, after this Rebuke, will you pleafe to hearken to the reafon of the Cafe. The dif- ficulty , you know , v/ith the ^erift, was, how to come at the Dodor's real Senfe, couched under general and amb^'guous ExprefTions ; that ib the Controverly might be brought to a Point ; and it might be leen plainly what was the true ftate of the Queftion : Which, as appears now, N % is i8o y^DEFENSE Qjj.X. is only this : whether God the Son be a Crea- ture or no. The Dodor ralkM of the Son's having divine Powers, and all divine Powers. It was very proper to ask you, whether He hereby meant iftfnite Powers or no ; and withal to fliow, if you Ihould not aniwer di- recStly, that He could not mean it, confijh ently with the Arian Hypothefis, which He Icem'd, in other parts of his Performance, to efpoufe. You will not yet fay diredrly, that the Son's Perfections are finite, nor deny them to be infinite : So hard a thing it is to draw you out of your ambiguous Terms ; or to make you fpeak plainly what you mean. All you are pleas'd to fay, is, that the Powers or Perfedlions of the Son are not ahfioltttely in- finite: As if infinity were of two Sorts, ab- folute and limited \ or might be rightly divided into Infinity, and not Infinity. Inftead of this, I could Willi , that words may be ufed in their true and proper meaning. If you do not think the Perfedions of the Son are in- finite, and yet are unwilling to limit them; let them be called indefinite, which is the pro- per word to exprefs your meaning ; and then every Reader may be able to underftand us, and may fee where we differ. We are now Both agreed, that the Dodor, by divine Powers, did not mean infinite Powers. Now let us pro- ceed to the next Query. Q^UERY Qjj. XI. offo;77e (QUERIES. i8l Q^ U E R Y XL Whether if the "Doctor means by divine Towers^ Towers given by God ( in the fame Senfe as Angelical To-juers are divine Towers) only in a higher degree than are given to other Beings ; it be not equivo eatings and faying nothing : nothing that can come up to the Senfe of t ho fe Texts before cited, * or to thefe following^ Applied to the one God. Thou , even Thou , art Lord alone ; Thou haft made Heaven, the Heaven of Heavens with all their Hoft , the Earth and all Things that are there- in, &c. Neh. 9. 6. In the Beginning, God created the Hea- vens and the Earth, Gen. I.I. To God the Son. All Things were 7nade by Him, Joh. 1.3. By Him were all Things created \ He is before all Things, and by Him allThings con- flft, Colof I. 16, 17. Thou, Lord, in the Beginning , haft laid the Foundation of the Earth ; and the Hea- vens are the work of thy Hands, Heb. 1. 10. IF the Dodor means, by divine Powers, no more than is intimated in this Query, I muft blame Him firft for equivocating and playing with an ambiguous Word ; and next for retrain- ing and limiting the Powers of the Son of God; !Qu.6. >.89. N 3 not i8r ^DEFENSE Qjj.Xh not only iz'tthoitt, but agatnjl Scripture ; and coniequently for giving us, not the Scriptidve T)o5irine of the Trinity, but his own. That there is no ground, from the Texts themfelves, for any fuch Liaiitation as is now fuppofed, is tacitely imphed in theDodor's own Confeffion ; that the Son is excluded from nothing but ab- folute Supremacy and Independency : So natu- rally doesTruth fometimes prevail, by its own native Clearnefs and Evidence, againfl the Jtrongejf andmoftfettledTrejudices. Indeed, the thing is very clear from the Texts themfelves cited above; elpecially when ftrengthened with Thofe now produced under th;s Qiiery. That the Son was, and is endowed with creative lowers, is plain from thefe Texts, and others which might be added; and is confirmed by the unanimous Suffrage of Catholick Antiquity. And that the Title oi Creator is the diftinguifli- ing Character of the one Supreme God, is fb clear from * Scripture, that He who runs may read it. Now let us confider what you have to except, in order to elude the force of this Argument. The Son of God, you fay, is manifefly the Father's Agent in the Creation of the Uni- verfe ; ' referring to Ephef 3.9. and to Heb. i . x. from whence you infer, that He \s fubordinate in Nature and Towers to Him. This you have (/. 58.) and in your Notes (/. 55-.) you * Nehcm. 9. 6, Ifa. 40. ii, 13. — 18, 19, 2o, ai, c^c. Ifa. 41. 5*, 8. Ifa. 43. I. 10. Jer. 10. 10. II, ij. mfifl: Qu.Xr. of fome Q^UERIES. 183 infift much upon the Diilindiion between h! ai- rif, and W aWi, explaining the former of an iiijirumentaL and the latter of an efficient Caufe ; of which more in due time and place. As to the Son's being Agent 'with, or Affijlant to the Father, in the work of Creation , we readily admit it ; and even contend for it. The Father is primarily, and the Son fecondarily^ or immediately. Author of the World ; which is lb far from proving that He is inferior, in Nature or Towers, to the Father; that it is rather a convincing Argument thit He is eqnal m Both. A Subordination of Order, but none oi Nature, is thereby intimated. * Eufebius, whom you quote (/. ss) oxxi o{Dv.Clarke,and f miiiranflate to ierve your purpofe, does not deny the proper Efficiency of the Son in the Work of Creation. All He aflerts is, that the Creation is primarily and eminently attributed to the Father, becauie of his Au^-evTzx, his T^re- rogative. Authority, Suprernacy, as Father, or firft Perfon; not denying the %o\\s proper Effi- ciency, but only (if I may fo call it) :j: original * Sec Eufcrb. Contr. Marcel. 1. i. c. 20. p. 84. f The learned Doctor^ and after Htm, Tou conjirue \}zj' ccutH, and ^i' xuTod, by efficient, and rniniftnng Caufe. As if a miniftring Caufe might not le efficient , or mnjl neceffarily be oppofed t§ It. 4: This is excellently illuftrated by the elder CynW. Uxr^o^ /SaAjjS-ZvTs? Tot TmVTlC KX^GTCiVCC-^, TU y TTZCT OQC, VlUl^U 6 'tf5? TK TTUVm U\ujma. tf(J5 Jj xoeAiv f;^j) iiniAxv T t'Ji'«v i'tjujiiifiyyiUjoiTz.iv' y^ .w-^tt ss-ocryip icTTZtJi^oTQ^u^vi -^ otajTOTciocq T i'JioJ'j oyiUiinpyrj/Mocnov, fiii)Tf 0 'ijoq T \izs-' fcTAa ^f/.iispyt]fji,oi7uv /3«.Xoc r Itt etyrs. Catcch. I 1. p. 14.$. Ed. Oxoa. N 4 Effici- 184 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XI. Efficiency ; that is , making Him the fecond and not the firft Perfon ; not Father but Son. Indeed, the * general Opinion of the Antients cencer'd in this ; that the Father, as Supreme, ifTued out Orders for the Creation of the Uni- verfe, and the Son executed them. And this was aflertcd, not only by the Ante-Nicene Writers, but f Toft-Nicene too ; and liach as ftrenuoufly defended the Cathol'ick Faith againft the Artms, I have before obferved that the Antients had a very good meaning and intent in affigning (as it were) to the Three Perfons, their leveral Parts or Provinces in the Work of Creation : And let no Man be offended, if, in this way of confidering it, the Son be fome- times faid uTnigcTncTi' , or U7r»p>«7v, or the like. This need not be thought any greater difparage- mcnt to the Dignity of the Son, than it is, on the other hand, a difparagement to the Dignity of the Father to be reprefented as having the Counfel and Afiiftance of two other Perlbns ; or as leaving every Thing to be wifely or- dered, regulated, and perfected by the Son and Holy Spirit. Thele Things are not to be ftricS:- ly and rigoroufly interpreted according to the Letter ; but ojjco^'o^istcJ^, and SeoTrgeTr®?. The de- fign of all was : i . To keep up a more lively Senfe of a real Diftincftion of Perfons. i. To teach us the indivifible Unity and Co- efTentiality * See Irenaeusj p. 85* Tcrtullian, Contr. Prax. c. 1 1. Hippolyt. Contr. Noet. c. 1 4. t ^6% Petavius de Trin, 1. z. c. 7. Bull. D. F. p. 80. 1 1 1. ' of Qjj.XL offome (QUERIES. i^s of all Three, as of one * Creator. 3. To fignify wherein that Unity confifts, or into what it ultimately refolves, viz. into ^nity of ^rin- ciple, one *Ap>^>i, Head, Root, Fountain of all. As to the Di(lind:ion between Si qlvtS, and vtc* oLvrSy per qtiem and ex quo, or the like; it can be of very Httle lervice to your Caule. The prepofition :i^-, with a genitive after it, is trequently uled, as well in Scripture as in Ec- clefiaftical Writers, to exprefs the efficient C^M^Qy as much as wtto, or 6/., or n^S^^ or any other. So that the Argument drawn from the u(e of the Prepofirions is very poor and trifling, as was long fi nee oblerved by f ^^7^^ the Great , who very handfomly expoles it's Author and In- ventor, Aetius, for it. Pleafe but to account clearly for one Text, out of many, (Rom, II. 36.) Of Him, and through Him {l\ ccJtS) and to Him are all Things ; to whom be Glory for ever. If you underftand this of the Fa- ther \ then, by your Argument from thePhrafe, l\ aubT^, you make Him alfo no more than an injirumental Caufe: If you underftand it of more Perlbns, Here's an illuftrious Proof of a Trinity in Unity. If it be pretended, which is the \ Dodor's laft reibrt, that although the ufe of thofc Prcpofitions fingly be not iuffici- ent, yet when they are ufed in exprefs Contra- * So Origen, who makes the Father hfJ^^ii^yh, and the Son hfj^mp" vh, Contr. Celf, p. ^ly. yet, in the 'very fame Treat ife, denies that the IVorld could have more Creators than one. Ma Ayet^/v^ Itiv wbA- >^m a'fifjtjififym ytyoiivctj, p. 18. t Dc Spir. Sand. p. I4f, (^c. ^ See Script. Dodtr. p. 90. diffiu- i86 ^DEFENSE Qu.XL diftinfiion to each other, they arc of more Significancy ; I anlvver firft, that I defire to know of what Significancy they are in Rom, II. 36. where they feem to be ufed in exprefs Contra- dtjiin^ion to each other; and fecondly, admitting that they arc oi Significancy, they may fignify only a r^'^/Diftinction of Perlbns, as St. *Bafil well oblerves; or iova^ priority of order proper to x.\\q firjl Terfon: This is all the ufe which any Catholick Writer ever pretended to make of the Diftindiion. However, to coun- tenance the Diftindion between the Father as the efficient y and the Son as the injlrurnental Caufe, you are pleafed to fay farther (/. 56. ) V/J" remarkable that (^according to the Senfe of the foregoing T>iftin6tion) though Chriji is frequently filed by the Antients Tix^iTyi^ and Ayj/xinpyhy yet nciy^ry.? r ohm is (to the beft of my Remembrance) always confined by Them to the Father only f . Had your Remark been true and juft, yet it would not be eafy to iliow that 'tb::^i'/t}^^, or however hfxispyU, may not fignify as much as 'TiDivjTyi^. But your Memory has much deceived you, in this Matter; and you iliould be cautious how you make your Readers rely upon it. -*f De Spir. Sancl. p. 148. f See Origen Conrr. Cclf. p. ^17. tohe^'e the Son is [aid -TuivAaz^ T n^a-yjm, and the Father to be zrear&'t,, that is, primarily or emi- nently d)^fjiji\if/oiyt% ruv oXm o'tifz/mpyb^ Aoo^5. Eufeb. E. H, 1 lo. c. 4. hifitus^'^vvroc,, '■^ ^i TFvsufjijoPi^ TPi(povToc, Ka'i cillo^roi. Iren« p. 28/. Ed, Bened. Uctry,^ yiB-i>ii)trsv, 'vfl^ iTrviYinv^ TrviVjjjX £(pxvi^&ftTk T oAo)!', (the higheft w^hich you think the Father Himfelf can have) to the Son, * n^5 ocvitv fp >^ ci' ocitTta yrtLiTu iyivsra, svoq ovr^ too TrzcTfo^ jg T» '^o'J. Athenag, p. 38- Ed. Oxon, Obferve ^5 ccuraZy as reell AS tfV cC'jToO. Au7^5 txvTtS Tvjv uXluj (Ji;M<<»p7^7K5. 'Ay fi>.cjv ^/utjiafyor,, Tatiao- p. 21. 26. Edit. Ox. TovTtv fjuovoyiv'^ roZrov ttuvtuv 'roiyiryiv, Iren. pag. 44. Ed. Bened. TouTor H^a-fjtjii TraivtTlul si<; roi t^icc lA/jAf.9-07BS, Ibid. Tav t ttuv- Ttov K7ii!J-jHifyov 't|oi/ c'y 77wrg/(. p. 142.. TlxiTU 9 Aoj55 'THSiH- rx oXoc dvif/jiis^'y-'i ■ . roZ ti^tru,^ id tcH 'AvJpaTTii hij/jiov^yoc,, p. 310. 'H r oXm 'A^^^^t p. 66c^. O Xiy(^ hifjijiov^yiui oiiTioc, p. 6f4t UccvTuv di^f/jicvpy^y p. 768. Tov Aoj^v TnTiviijKivaj tivatu, cvx 0 -zs-xrvo ctuTzS cvsniXccro. Oric^cn. Contr. Ceir. p. 63. Anf/fiovfiyov T TTuvrziV, uti^^v^ ttviktIu'^t 7ru^Tz*v. Origen. apud Huet. Origenian. p. 38. N. B. This laft Citation, from a Catena, is of lefs Authority^ but the Citations from his other certainly genuine Works, are^ in Senfe^ equivalent, t Eufeb. in Pfalni. p. 12^. 5-64. 630. in the frfi of the three PUces, the Words are remarkably full and Jirong, 'O ^\fjt,iov^yiq Aej?^, c -^iTiTAi ^ oXuv. The other two are equivalent in Senfe, Iloojri,; t iAwy, and i >re}$ u9Tfivi wkere •Awt- is undetjlood. I90 ^DEFENSE (^ii.XL no lefs than thrice ; ^LsL'-ejtatis had done, thrice alfo, before, in Words equivalent ; and Origen, probably, once ; as alfo * Hippolytus : not to mention that almoft AH the Fathers by inter- preting, G^;/. 1.16. (-Tci'^jw/^ V Iv'^paTfvVi &C.) of Father and Son jointly, have impHcitely and conlequentially, tho' not cxprefly , faid the lame thing. To proceed: You have an Argument to prove that Creat- ing docs not imply infinite Power. For, you lay, was the extent of tho fe lowers, then ex- ercis'd, infinite, 'tis evident, the World muft be infinite alfio, (p-58-) This, indeed, is do- ing the Bufineis at once: For, if this reafoning bejuft, the Father Himfelf, as well as the Son, is efFcdtually excluded from ever giving any fenfible Proof, or from exerting any Ad:, of infinite Power. St. Taul's Argument from the Creation, for the eternal Tower and Godhead of the Creator, is rendred inconclufive : For it will be eafy to reply, in Contradidion to the Apo- ftle's reafoning, that the Things which are made are finite ; and therefore cannot prove the maker of Them to be infinite : So thatAcheifts and Unbelievers were not fo entirely without excufie, as the good Apoftle imagin'd. If you think there is fome difference between infinite Tower, and eternal Tower and Godhead-^ and therefore that the Apoftle's Argument is not * Contr. Beron. &: Hel. p. ix6* Comp. Contr. Noet. p. i6« The genuinefs of the firji is fomeTpkat doubtful j but the Ufi is not qtiefton'J, per- Q^u.Xr. of fome (QUERIES. 19 1 pertinent to the point in Hand; I fliall be con- tent if Creating be allowed a fufficienc Proof of the Son's eteriial To'isaer and Godhead \ fince it brings me directly to the Point I aim at: Bcfides, that infinite ToiL'er will come in of Courfe afterwards, by necefTary Inference and Implication. I had almoft forgot to take notice of your way of wording your Argument, which looks not very fair. You fay, iji'as the extent of thofe Towers infinite ; as if any one faid it was, in the Senfe wherein you underftand the word extent. For Realons beft known to your lelf, you do not diftinguiih between extent of Power ad intra, in relpcd; of "Degree ; and extent of Power ad extra, in refped: of the exercife of it. It may require an infinite 2)^- gree of Power, to create a grain of Sand ; tho' the extent of that outward Ad; reaches no far- ther than the thing created. Now, you know, our difpute is only about infinite extent of Power in the firft Senfe. Let us therefore put the Argument into plain Words, and fee how it will bear. *' Was the Power exercis'd in the Creation ** infinite in T>egree, or exceeding any finite ** Power, then it is evident that the World *' muft be infinite. Make this out, with any tolerable Senfe or Connexion, and youl do fomething. Next let us put the Argument in the other Light. ** If the Power exercis'd in the Creation ex- ** tended to an infinite Comfafs, or to an />/- *' finite 191 yfDEFENSE Qu.XL •' Jinite Number of Things, then if is evident *' that the World mufl be infinite. Right: If the Creation had been infinite in extent ^ the Creation mud have been infinite in ex- tent. But who is it that you are diiputing againft ? Or whom do you obhge by theie Dil- covenes ? The Queftion is, whether the Create ing, that is, producing out of Nothing, any one fingle Thing, however fmall in extent, be not an Ad proper to God only; exceeding any finite Power ; incommunicable to any Creature. It is fufficient for Ton, to put "Vs upon the proof oi x}i\Q Ajfirmative : No confideringMan would ever attempt to prove the Negative. As to the Affirmative, there are many very probable pre- fumptive Proofs, fuch as ought to have great Weight with Us: particularly, Creation every where in Scripture look'd on as a divine Adi; Not fo much as a Grain of Sand, or a Particle of Matter, faid to be created by an Angel, or Arch- angel, or any Creature whatever ; Reafonable to fuppofe that nothing can come into Being by any Power lefs than His, w^ho is the Author and Fountain of all Being. To this agrees the general Senfe of the more fober and thinking Part of Mankind. This was the Dodrine of the * Ante-Nicene Catholick Writers, fo far as ap- * Hoc Ocu? ab Homine diftert, quoniam Dcus quidem facir. Ho- mo autem fit: fie quidem Qui facit, fcmper Idem eft. /rc«. />. 240, 'Ed. Bened. Nihil enim in totum Diabolus invenitur feciflc, videlicet cum 8c JpfeCreatura fit Dei, quemadmodum & reliqui Angcli. Iren. p. xi%, Seealfo Bull. D.F. Epilog, p. 25^1, 291. pears 5 Qu,Xh of fome (QUERIES. 193 pears, as well as of Thole that came after. Wherefore the Avians^ in aicribing Creation to a Creature, innovated in the Faith of Chrift, copied after the Gnoflicks, and expoled their Gaufe. Since They reiblved to make "iCreatitre only, of the Son of God, they ihould not have allowed Him any Power of Creating ; but fhould have interpreted all thole Texts which ipeak in favour of it, as the Socinians have done fmce, of a metaphorical Creation. That in- deed had been novel, and (Irain'd enough ; but accompanied with leis ablurdity than the other. However, This ufe we may make of what the Arians fo univerfally granted ; Firft, to obferve, that Scripture and Tradition muft have appeared to run very ftrong, at that time, for it: And it may farther Ihow, how eafy arid natural that Notion muji be allowed to be, which fo many could not forbear exprefjlng clearly and di- jlin6ily ; even frequently when, at the fame time, ^ they were about to affirm, and en- deavoring to prove fomething not very con- fiftent with it. But we Ihall have more of this Matter in the following ^eries. O Q^UERY 194 ^DEFENSE Q^u.Xll. Q^U E R Y XII. Whether the Creator of all Things 'ujas not Him/elf uncreated ; and therefore could not be e^ cht hjavy made out of nothing, THIS and the four following Queries, are\ you fay, ally at mofl, but Arguments, ad Ignorantiam, or Verccundiam, (p 5-9 ) to fut Its upon determiningThings\on either fide ^ not clearly revealed. To iay the Truth, you leem here to be very much perplex'd ; and therefore have reafon to complain : And I am not to exped: any very clear and diflind: An- Iwers You admit (/>. 60) that the Creator of allThings fnuft be Him fe If uncreated. Well then: The Son x^Creator of all Things; There- fore He is uncreated. The Premiles are Both your own; The Conclufion mine; And, one might think, it fliould be Your's too. But you are, it ieems, very loth to coire into it ; and difcover a llrong Inclination to elude and evade it ; if it were any way poffibie for you to do it. Let us fte what you can fay : If the Scripture-Senfe be the true and only poper Senfe of the 'ujord. Creature , {to wit , the I'ifible and invifible Worlds brought into be- ing by the Tower of the Aoy®^, or Son of God, in Subordination to the Will and Tower of the Father ) then His manifeji that the A07©-, ''who thus created Them, muji {what- ever Q^u.XII. of fome Q^UERIES. 19^ ever is the nature of his own Troduliion or Generation) be, in this way of fpeaking^ tin- created. This is fomcthing myfterious. It is however very plain that you arc draining hard for fbnae odd, peculiar Senfe of the word, Crea- ture, or Created \ which is to be called the Scripture Senfe \ and if this does not relieve you, all is loft. You give us the Scripture -T>o6irine of the Creation ; expreffing both the Creation it felf, and the "Per/on by whom it was wrought: and that whole T>o5frine, tho* fet forth in many Words, you call the Scripture- Senfe of that One Word, Creature, or Created, As if I lliould fay ; the Scripture- Account of rhe jirk is, that it was made by Noah ; therefore the Scripture-Senfe of the word, Ark, impii^^s the making of it by Noah. Or, the Scrip-cre- Account of rhe Temple is, that ic was built by Solomon ; therefore the Scripture Senfe of rhe word. Temple, fuppoies it to be lomerhing made by Solomon : And if there were ever fo mmy Temples befides that one, yet They could not properly be call'd Temples, unlefs built by Solomon. This is juft as good as yoar pretence, that creating docs not fignify (imply, creat- ing ; but creating by the Ao y;^. Give me leave to ask, whether the Jews, who kept their Sabbath in Memory of the Creation, and un- doubtedly took their notion of it from Scri- pture, underftood the word conftantly in your Senfe. as created by the Ao7(^ ? If they did ; O % Thac ic^6 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XI. That is a point I may make Ibme ufe of ano- ther Time : If They did not ; then the Scrl- fttireSenfe oi x\\Q woxd. Great nre, before the coming of the MeJJiah, was fomething different from what you have given us. I ihall only add, that your pretended Senfe of the word Crea- ture, or Created^ does not fecm to have pre- vailed fo early as St. John's Time. He tells us, all Things were made by Him, that is, by the Aoy©- ; and ^without Him, was not any Thing made that was 7nade. Might He not better have faid , in fliort , all Things were created, neither was there any thing but what was created \ It was perfedly needlefs, if your pretence be true, to infert, by Him ; becaule, in the Scripture- Sen/e of the Word, it was im- plied, and the Addition of it only renders it Tautology. You go on to fay, it is, I thinks for this reafon, that the Scriptures never fay that He is created, Ingenuoufly confels'd ; and therefore I hope you will nor preiume, either to fay, ox to believe, xh^z He is created. As to the reafon you aflign for it, it is mecr Fancy and Fidion: I hope, out of pure Re- verence to the facred fVrit, you will bethink your felf of fome better. You add, on the other Hand, that the Scriptures never fay that He is uncreated^ forgetting what you had acknow- ledged, in the fame Page, viz. That the Creator, of all Things mnfl be Himfelf uncreated, is M unavoidable confequence in Reafon: And that qi/.XL of fome (QUERIES. 197 that the Kly(^ had created all Things you admit, immediately after, as delivered in Scri- pture. Wherefore, if Scripture, by unavoid- able Confequence , does fay , that He '\% un- created'^ 1 hope, Scripture does y^ it. The Scriptures, every where, carefully keep up the Diftiniftion between Creator, and Creature ; and never confound Both in one. They tell us not of any Creature of the Fathers, which is not a Creature of the Son's alio. They fay, that all Things 'oi^ere made by Him ; and to be more exprefiive and emphatical, without Him ■was not any Thing made that was made. How can this be, if He Hirafelf was made ? Si Iffe FaEitis eft, non per Illitm funt omnia fa6ia, fed cat era ; faith St. Atiftin. As to the Senie of the Ante-Nicene Writers, in this particular, it is well known that they do imflicitely and confeqnentially, almofh every where, declare the Son to be uncreated. You may fee fome * Teflimonics referred to in the Margin, where they do it alfo direEily, and in exfrefs Words. 1 fcruple not to put Origen amongfl: Them : His Orthodoxy has been ef- fed:ually defended by the Incomparable Bilhop BulL in the Opinion of the ableft and moll impartial Judges. The learned Dodor, notwith- * Athenagoras, Legat. p. 59. Ed. Ox. Ignar. ad Ephef. c. 7. p. 14. Ed. Ox. Irenaeus, 1. 2. c. ij". p. If3. Ed. BeneJ. Origen» Contr. Celf. 1. 6. p. 287. Dionyf. Rora. apud Ahanaf. d^z Decret- Syn. N. p. 131. Dionyfius Alexand. apud Eund. 230. x^^. 15-7. Theognoftus— — apud Eund. 230. Methodius apud Phot, p 95-^. Hippolytus (probably) de Theol. ^ Incarn. p. 228. O 3 (landing J98 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XII. {landing, has been pleafed to revive the Difpute about brigen's Sennments with what Succeft, ihall be here examm'd, as briefly as may be. The Words of Origen, which ^He lays hold on, are thele. ^ CgKcrS'JTrtTov 'Tti.VTTJuV "T^d ^/xi^pynf^xir/v ^ applied to the Son. B lliop Bu//, like a skilful and a candid Man, who did not care to let one ambiguous Sentence againfr mmiy plain ones ; nor to make an Author manifcftly inconfiftent, without as manifeft a necefliry ; rcndred the Words, very rightly, Aniienter than all Crea- tures. The Dodor Himfelf is forc'd to ^ admit, that the Words might bear this Conftrudion : And yet ^ afrerw^ards fays, that Origen exprejly reckoned the Son among the h/xi3pyy](jLcL(gc. But; how exprejly ? This can never be proved meer- ly from the Force of Tr^iaQvraLlovj as a Super- lative : unlefs ^ Eufebius exprejly reckon'd the Son among Times and Ages ; or ^ Jujiin Mar- tyr exprefly reckon'd the Tentateuch among profane Hiftories ; or the fame s Jujiin ex- prejly reckon'd Mofes and the Trophets among the Wife -Men of Greece : which is ridicu- lous. The Superlative, we fee, hath been ufed Ibmetimes Comparatively ; and why not a Script. Dodr. p. 184. 278. a 81. b Orig. Conrr. Celf. 1. j-. p. 2^-7. c Script. Dodtr. p. 184. d Script. Doftr. p. 182. e UAvrv^ Xi^v^ ^ TrxvTZjy eciavuv T^KrZuvx.'rte,. De Laud. Conftant. c. I. p. foi. Valef. Parxn. c 12. p. 70. Ed. Ox. , \^ iraf viMv az>i^st was underftood, by Athanafius, in a larger Sen(e than x-tiV? : Lallly, we are to fuppofe that Athanafius is, in this * Scrip. Dcdr-^p. 1S4. 'J57^racr5&>c hi^m^ylv. tic, Jlj av t^v iiroc, eOi^' jj 0 xoLvccyict^ y^ vTnPt' rtKHvx TTucYic, '^nrvic, «a7«5, 0 ^ Xe/i^u ^recrjj'p. Orat. Contr". Gent, p. 3p. Ed. Bened. f Script. Do(5lr. p. 184. O 4 la- ^oo ^DEFENSE Qjj.Xh Inftance, the beft Interpreter of Origen^ tho- it does not appear from Orlgen'<, own Writings, that He knew any thing of this pecuhar Senfe of (3\/x*8V>W/ua ; but the Contrary. The bare Re- cital oi ib many Stippojitions, advanc'd without Proof, or any Shadow of it, might fuffice for an Anfwer. Bur we may oblerve. I. That \i Athanajius, being then a young Man and an Orator, intended only to vary hisPhrale; either to be more emphatical, or tq give the better Turn and Cadence to a Period (and this might be all, tor any thing that ap- pears to the Contrary) then the Do6tor's Cr'tti- cifm falls to the Ground. a. If any Contra d'tfitn^i ion was intended, it fliould feem that the fame muft hold, with re- jped: to •JjV'^^ and ^y\iJii\i^yb'i : the Confequence whereof is, that God the Father is not x.ugi@« fo far and wide as He is ^-^yu^H^yU. It will be fpme Satisfadlion to us, that, if the Son be S'»]}jLmpyv\(JuxT> He has no Lord over Him, 3. The conftant ufe oi S-^umpyiMML and ^i^ui^p- yo$, in other Authors, and even in Athanafius Himfelf, and in this very * Treatife, is ano- ther flrong Prefumption againft the Dodor's Criticijm. Jj* nx,vi^7ii ^xvt/jccx'^ xj4(^xA«j^i§ T rarav h^f/jiovpyov KU^'Tnc^iyj, p. 46. The Words h^,fjuiovfiy»y>x'^ and hiwtovf,ylv an/rper, iiz the Similitude and Analogy, to x.-n are eufHivdent to the Two latter^. 4. The Q^u.XI. offome (QUERIES. 201 4. The Confequences following from the Suppofition of liich aScnle, asrhcDod:or would irapofc upon Athanajiiis, may be demonftrably confuted from the lameTrcatife; nay, from the very fame Page where that remarkable Paf- fage is. For, you mud know, that, if rhe Doilor underftands Him right, Athanaflus included the Son under Tcicni -^L^Tr^v^Vcci)?, whereof the Fa* ther is ^'yifiif-jpyU : And fo the Son mud be ^y^fju' ovpyi^fxx according to Atbanafius. Not only lb, but He mud alfo come under itkoYi yi^y\Ty\i BTioL^', which, for the purpofe, the learned Do- ctor rook care to render all ^ derivative Be- ing, anfwering to his rendring of ^yj/bLmpynux ^afterwards. This might lock fair and plaufible, had we only that fingle Sentence o'i Athanafnis to form a Judgment by : But it Hands in a pretty large Treatifc ; wherein we find that Atbanajlus is fo far from fuppofing the Son to h,c ^\ixiovpyAiJLx , that He makes Him ^ Tniy^Ti^^ of all the invijible Towers \ nay and ^ S'Yiixmpy:^ tS rxcurUy which, I think, comes to as much as ay,/ju8pyos Tciayi; '\j:nn)qzl(TiCcg ; and that there- fore the learned Dodor may almod as reafbn- ably bring the Father in, among the i'vifxinpyn^ iJuoLioL of the Son, ^^ vice verfa. To conclude; Athanaflus, within a few lines of that PafTage which the Dodor makes ufc of, exempts the Son, clearly and exprefly, from the Rank of a Script. Doftr. p. 4. b Script. Do6lr, p. 278. c Pag. 43. d Pag. 29. fuch xoL ^DEFENSE Q^lj.XIII. fuch derivative Beings, as the DodJor would place Him with : * 'aaao$ ^gv \r Clarke who every where denies the Coil fiibft ant lal'ity of the Son, as abfurd and contradi&orj, does not, ofConfequence^ affirm the Son to be a Creature l^ csbc oWi^, and Jo fall under his own cenfure, and is Self condemn' d'i IT hath been queilion'd by fome , whether Dr. Clarke has really given into the Arian Scheme, or no. From what He faith, in fome places of his Scripture-T^oBrine, (particularly *Prop. 14 and 16.) one might imagine that He ^oodi Neuter \ neither determining for, nor againfl: the Catholick Faith , in that Article : Bur, from his declaring f exprefly againft the Confubflantiality of the Son, whether J^^a}ffi or Individual, (between which He allows no medium^ and from his reckoning the Son among the h/uuiipy}iixa,Tgc^ tho' He gives an arti- ficial glofs to it; as alio from his excluding the Son out of the One Godhead ; from thefe Con- fiderations, to mention no more, it is exceed- ingly clear, that He has determin'd againft the Church ; and declared for Arianifm, He has, by neceflary Confequence, averted the Son to ♦ Script. Dodlr. p. 276. 179. f *fe Scrjpt, Doclr. p. 465-. be Q^u.XIV. of fome Q^UERIES. 113 be g^ m o^Tttv ; which is the very EfTence and Charadteriftick o'iArianifm. By io doing, He is Self condemn'd {See Trop. 14.) unlels affirming a thing exprejly be highly blaraeable; and af- firming the larae thing, hnplicttely and confe- quentially, be juft and good. It is unaccount- able ro me, how there comes to be fuch a charm in Words, that a Man ihould be blameable for faying a Thing of this Nature, plainly and di- redily , w^hich He may affirm indirectly and conlequentially, without any fault at all. Doth the Offence lie only in Sounds or Syllables? Or was Arms more culpable for faying, the Son was a Creature, and from nothing, than Ano- ther who fays, He is not Conftibfanttal with the Father, xioxOneGod with Him, or the like ; when it isfo verymanifeft,and hath been proved above, that they are only different Expreffions of the fame Thing? 1 can think but of three Reafons ( I fpeak not of particular Views , or Motives^ why any Man fliould condemn Arius for declaring the Son to be e^ ^x. Inm. Either becaufe the Propofuion is falfe-^ or be- caufe it is dubious-^ or becauic it is not, in ex- frefs Words, contained in Scripture. if the Doctor believed it falfe. He could nor, confidently, dilbwn the Conftibftmitiality and Co-eternity^ If He thought it dubious. He mufl have obferved z Neutrality m this Conrroverfy ; which He has not done ; The Third Realbn would bear too hard upon many of the Do- dor's Fifty Five Tropofitions, The Conclufion, P 3 which 114 ^ D E F E N S E Q^u.XV. which I draw from thefe Premifes, purfuant to the Query laid down, is, chat the learned Doctor, in ccnderaning Arius, has impHciteiy condemn'd Himfelf. it was as necefTary to take notice of this, as ic is to take offDiiguifes, and to prevent a Reader's being mided by fair Pre* tences. Let Things appear what they really are, without Art or Colouring 5 and then, if you can make any Advantage of 'em, in God's Name, do lb ; and, if your Cauie be juft, it will thrive the better for it. (^ U E R Y XV. Whether He alfo mttfr not, of coufeqticnce, affirm of the Son, that there was a Tune when He was not, fince God muft exiji be- fore the Creature; and therefore is agaiii Self- condemn'd, (See Prop. 16. Script. DocSr.) And whether He does not equivocate in faying, * elfewhere, that the fecond Ter- fon has been always with the Firft -^ and and that there has been no Time, when He was not fo : And Uflly^ whether it he not a vain and weak Attempt to pretend to any middle way between the Orthodox and the Arians ; or to carry the Son's T)tvimty the leaf higher than They did, without taking in the Confnbftantiality ? I Could have been willing to have had this, ai^i other the like Queries, relating more to -the Dodor Himfelf, than to the Caufe, drop'd. But * Script. Doar. p. 4,38. fuice Qjj.XV. of fame (QUERIES. 215- fince you have thought fit to puhlijh Them, prefuming your icif able to defend the Dodor in every Thing ; you have brought a kind of nccefiicy upon mc , of fliowing how little ground you have for your AHurance in this particular ; and that the Doctor will (till want ibme better Advocate. He condemns, in his * Scriptiire-T>octriney Thole who pretending to be wife above what IS written, and intruding into Things which they have not feen, have prefumed to affirm^ that there was a Time when the Son was NOT. Who would think, after this, that He Ihould be the Man who \[\ow\d pr ef time to do it? Yet nothing is more evident than that He denies the Eternity of the Son; which is the very- lame as to affirm, that there was a time when the Son was not. He denies it, by plain Con- fequence, in fuppofing the Son to be g^ w oVm/, as was 111 own under the lafl: ^lery ; and be- fides. He exprcfly fays, in his \ Comments oa the Athanafian Creed (which contain what Himlelf fubfcribes to ) that there are not three eternal Terfons. It muft indeed be own'd, that in his Paper laid before theBilliops, July^, 1 7 14. He profefics that the Son was eternally begotten by the eternal Will and Tower of the Father. But, after a Friend of his had dilcovered fome uneafinefs at that PafTage, as looking like a Retra£lation of his former Opi- * Prop. 6. p. 279. t Script. Doiti, p. 429. P 4 aioQ» %i6 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XV, nion, and as admitting the Son's Eternity, He ^ took care to explain it away ; and to fignify that, tho' He had laid the Son was eternally begotten. He did not mean it in the ftrid and proper Senie. ** My Intention, fays He, was ** riot to alTert any thing different from what *' I had before \yritten; but only to fliow that *' I did not in any of my Books teach (as had '' by many been induftrioufly reported) the ^' Dodrine of Arms {viz,, that the Son of ** God was a Creature made out of Nothing, *' juft before the Beginning of the World) but ** that He was begotten Eternally, that is, *' without any Limitation of Time, (x;;^goWj '« cciciv(i)v) in the incomprehenfible Duration of ^^ the Father's Eternity. This is too plain ta nee4 any Comment. I Ihall onh^ oblerve to the Reader, how the Dodor (tngle^- our one particular Point, where- in He diff'ers fiom Arius\ whereas it is juftly queflionab'C whether that was Aritis's fettled Op'-nion or no. Any one that will be at the pams ro read over Arius'f^ Letters, extant in J Theodorit and \ Athttnajius, will eafily fee, that the principal Thing which ftuck with Him, was the TO i/iiov or o^v i'^'ioi', the ftridt Eter- nity or Co eternity of the Son. As to other kfTcr Matters, He would eafily have compound^ ed with the Cat ho licks -^ and would never have * Letters, Numb. 8. f E. H, 1. I. C. j-. ^ De Sjnod. Arim. p. 7sp. - fcrupleds. qy.XV. of fome QUERIES. 217 fcrupled, in the lead, to carry the point as high as the Dodor docs. He was content, for the mofl part, to fay, There was aTime when the Son was not, without defining the frecife Time of his Generation , or Creation, To make it the more clearly appear, that He was perfedly of the Doftor's Sentiments, in this par- ticular, it is obfervable that He ufes nearly the very fame Words, which the Dodor does: 'Tcd.MTu^ T^ ctlcivm) Words, tho' not exa(!lly the fame, yet full as high and ftrong as Thofe which the DocSor explains his own Senfe of Eternity by. So that the Dodor has no reafon to difclaim Arius ; or to endeavor to perfwade the World that He differs from Him, in any thing material relating to this Controverfy. But to return: The Words eternal, always, or the like, are plain Englijh Words ; and fhould either not be ufed, in this cafej at all, or ufed in their true and proper Senfe. You Apologize for it, as far as the Matter will bear: But it would be wifer, and better, and more ingenuous, to give that Point up. Let us hear however what you have to fay. God could eternally aEi, that is, could in any point of duration of his own Exijience exercife his eternal Tower and Will in pro^ ducing Beings "' and therefore Beings diflindi * Epift. apud Athanaf. p. 7^0. t Athanaf, ibid. Theod. c. «>. p. 2 |. t Conks',- An'u & EUk. apud Sozoin. 1. 1. c. 17. p. 3 97. from ai8 v^ D E F E N S E Qv.XV. from the one fiipreme God may be faid to be Eternal, as far as we are able to reafon about Eternity ( / mean as it is a negative Idea ) fo that we cannot conceive Time when they were not, ( p 6i. ) What a number of Words are here., only to tell us, in a round about way, that the Son is not Eternal. What is this ne- gative Eternity, but no Eternity ? And why are not Angels, or Arch angels called Eternal^ fince we know not precilcly when they were made, nor in what Time they began to exift ; which is all the meaning of this new fort of Eternity ? Befides, is not every Creature pro- duced in fome ^oint of "Duration, in which God exercifes his eternal Tower and Will up- on them ? Are they therefore Eternal ? As to your intimating of the Son, that we cannot conceive Time when He was not \ it is not true, upon your Principles. We can conceive it as well of Him, as of any other Creature, Angel, or Arch angel ; if He was made in Time, that is, if He was 7na,de at all. We can con- ceive, and muft conceive, that there were Millions and Millions of Ages backwards ; an Eternity, a parte ante, before He came into Being. I hope, you intended not any Equivocation in the word, lime: But if you did, it is only putting Duration in the room of \i, and then all will be right. The Arians would have been content to have had but one moment of Time admitted for the Father to be prior, and to Will the Exiftence of the Son. This would have Qjj.XV. of fbme Q^UERIES. 219 have been enough to make the Generation of the Son fit ealy upon their Minds. But the misfortune was, that one moment's priority of Time mud infer an infinite Priority, The ylrians iaw it, and lubmittcd to it. The Cathohcks abhorr'd the Thought j and could not bear the Impiety of making the Son of God a Creature. You endeavor to fhow that Dr. Clarke takes a middle way between the Orthodox and the Arians\ by which you only happen to ihow how little you have been acquainted with the Forms, Creeds, and Confejjions of the Antient Arians, The firft * Inftance you give of the Dodlor's middle Way, is, that He does not plainly and dired:ly fay that the Son was created'^ He denies Him to be g.,^ cht ovrov. But herein. He only Copies after many of the Antient Arians\ who, when accus'd by the Catholicks of making the Son a Creature, re- jeclied the charge with great difdain, having this reierve, f not a Creature like other Creatures which are created mediately by the Ao^$ : the lame Evafion, which you arc plcas'd to adopt tor your own, (/.60. ) And it was :): frequent with the Arians to deny the Son co be gj oi^tc oynijy ; or cven to Anathe?natize thole that fliould affirm it. A fccond Inftance you give, of the Dodtor's refining upon the Arians, is in the * Pag. 60. t See Socrat. E, H. 1. 2. c. 10. p. 7}. Hicron. Dial. Contr. Lucif. p. 300. -^ See Arian Creeds, Athanaf. p» 738. Socrat. 1. 2. c. 8- 19. 50. Sozom. 1. 3. c. 11. point x%o ^DEFENSE Qjj.XV. point of the Son's Eternity, {p. 6i.) But I have iliown you that He does not fb much as go beyond Arius Himftlf, in that Point : Befides that the ^ Antient Avians condemn'd thole that fliould prefume to fay, that there was a Time when the Son was not, equivocating upon the word, Time. Both your Inftances, you fee, fail you , being neither of them fufficient to the purpofe. But, to iet this Matter in a foniewhat clearer Light, it may not be improper, in this Place, to exhibit a Draught or Reprefentation of the Avian Tenets or Principles ; by which it will appear what Avianifm really is, when purfued in its remotefl: Confequences ; and what the Difference is between Thofe who only admit fbme part of it ( as the Dodor and your Self; and Thole who receive the whole. ^Tojitions offome, ov othev oftheAxhns, in veffeEl of the Son, I. Not ""Con/tibjlantial with God the Father. X. iVi?^dC(9-^^^r;/(^/, however begotten before all Ages, or without any known Limitation of Time. 3. Of a diJfinSi infeviov Natuve, however otherwife perfedtly like the Father. a See Arian Creeds, Athanaf. p. 758. Socrat. 1. 2. c 18, 19. Sozom. 1. 9 . c. 1 1 . b Athanaf p. i8x. 398. 728. Sozom. 1. i. c. 1$. Theod, Haeret. lab. 1. 4. c This toas Agreed to itnan'imoujly* d ThU Vo'mt difpHted by the Pfathyrians. Theod. Haeret. Fab. ]. 4* «• 4- P* »38- 4. Not Qjj.XY, of fome QUERIES. 2xj 4. Not JlriEily and ejfent tally God, but par- taking of the Father's Divinity. 5". A Creature of the Father's, however un- like to the reft of the Creatures, or Superior to Them. 6. "^ Not like the Father-^ but in Nature and Subftance, hke other Creatures. 7. ] Made inT'tme\ there having been a Time when He was not, made from Nothing. 8. \Far inferior to the Father in Know- ledge, Power, and Perfed:ions. 9. Mutable in /:?/j'A^^^^r^, as. a Creature, tho* unchangeable by Decree. 10. 'Dependent on the good Pleafure of the Father, for his paft, prefent, and future Being. 11. Not knowing the Father perfecStiy, nor Himfelf His Knowledge being that of a Crea^ ture, and therefore ^;//>^. II. Made a little before the World was made ; and for the fake of Thofe that iliould be after Him. Thefe are the Arian Principles brought down as low, as they can well go. Arius, the Au- thor and Founder of the Secft, feems to have gone through all thofe Steps, at the firft : And indeed, all of them, except the laft, hang toge- ther; and are but the neceflary Confequences * TIas denUd by all but thofe called Anomxans. t This deniedy m Words, by many. :): Fevf bold enough tg mi^vmain ^xpredy thh, or any of tht folloic- mg Fropojitions, of 221 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XV. of each other. Thofe that ftop'd in the mid- way, or looner, might be more picus and mo- deft; but lefs confiftent Men A httle Expe- rience convinc'd, as well Arius Himielf, as his Followers, that thole Pofitions, all together, were too grating upon , and too iliocking to every pious Chnftian at that Time. And there- fore (without confidering how one depended on another ; or how a Principle could be main- tain'd, and yet its plain, neccflary Conlequence.s diiown'd) they immediately went to work, to cut off what- ihould appear moft ofFenfive, and retain only what might found tolerably ; efpecially when worded in ambiguous, or Catholick Terms. The nine lad Particulars were, for fome time, and by the Avians in general, waved, drop'd, not infilled on (as being too grofs to take) or elfe artfully infinuated only, under fpccious and plaufible Expre/Tions. The firji They all own'd , and infifted the moft upon ; having many Pretences to urge againft Confuhjiauti- ality, either Name, or Thing. y.\\Q Jecond and third They divided upon, as to the way of Expreflion; fome fpeaking their Minds plainly, others with more rcierve ; not lb much deny* ing the Co-eternity,^2iS forbearing to affirm it. This was the method which the Avians took to propagate their Herefy. We need not won- der if They were put hard to it, and were often forc'd to make ufe of CoUufions, Equivocations, and double Entendres. For, being obliged, for fear Q^u.XV. of fome (QUERIES. 125 fear of Offence, ro ufe Catholick Words, the' without a Catholick meaning ; and to maintain their main Principle, without leeming to main- tain its necefiary Confequences ; Cr^^y» leeming to deny and rejed: them) it could not be other- wife. And not only the Catholkks frequently complain of thofe fmooth Gentlemen, but Ibme even of their * own Party could not endure fuch Shuffling; thinking it became honeft and fm- cere Men, either to fpeak our, or to iay no- thing. Of this kind were Aethis, and Euno- mitis, with their Followers, called Anomd^ans and ExoticonUi, being indeed no other, in re- ijped to the Son's Divinity, than fuch as Aritis was at firft ; and Ipeaking almoft as plainly and bluntly as He did. After the Dilguifes and Softenings, and Colourings had been carried on fo long, till all Men of Senle faw plainly that it was high time to leave off trifling, and to come from Words to Things; and that there was no Medhim , but either to fettle into Orthodoxy, or to fit down with the pure Arians and Anomaans , (if they would determine any Thing, and be Jincere and con- fijlent Men) fome chofe the former, and fome the latter, according as they more in- clined to one way, or the other. There is certainly no Medium betwixt Orthodoxy and Arianifm (for \Semi'ArianiJhi, if lb under- * See Epiphan. Haeref. 76. p. 916. t Semi- Aria?.' us, 8c Semi-Beusy 6c Semi- Great lira perinde monftra Sc portenta funr> qu« Sani & Pii Omnes raerito cxhorrent. Bull, ftood. D. F. p. 2I ai4 ^ DEFENSE Q^u.XV. ftood, is perfed Non-fenfe and Conrradidion) there being no Medium between God and Crea- ture, between Unmade and Made, Men may conceal their Sentiments, fupprefsGonfequenccs, and Ipeak their Minds but by Halves ; and fb one Arian may be more cautious, or more art- ful tlian Another: But, in truth and reality, every Man that difowns the Confiibjiantiality , rightly underftood, is as much an Arian, as jEunomms^ or Aetius, or any of the Antient Arians were ; or even as Arius Himfelf, ex- cepting only fome few Particulars, which were nor his (landing and fettled Opinions. In fine, there is but one middle way to take between the Orthodox and the Arians , and That is, to avoid determining on either fide ; to leave the point in medio, and to fufpend aflenc to either; to believe as much, and as high, as any of the Arians did ; and as to the reft, nei- ther to beheve, nor disbelieve it. But this is not the cafe, either with the Dodor, or your Self You have declared againft the Confub- fiantiality, and the proper 'T>ivinity of Chrift, as w^ell as Co-eternity : And are therefore fb far from refining upon, that you rcaliy come Ihort of many of the Ancient Arians % tho', to do you juftice, you are the more confiftent with your ielves for it. I have now fuffici- ently vindicated every part of the ^uery % having fhown that x\\^ Equivocation, in refped of the Son's Eternity, is juftly chargeable up- on the Dodor; and that He has not ob- fervcd Q^u.XV. of fome QUERIES. aty ferved a neutrality in this difpute ; nor carried the point higher than the Antient Ar'tans ; but has really, and fully given into their Senti- ments; and therein determined againft the C^- tholick Church. The ufe which I make of this, at prefent, \s to oblcrve to the Reader: I. That the Dodtor has not invented any neWt or more excellent Scheme than was thought of confider'd, and condemned , near 1400 Years ago, by a very wife, numerous, and unbyafs'd Council. 1. That He cannot juftly cite any Catholick ToJf'Nicene Writer, (nor indeed Ante-Nicene) as certainly favouring his main Dodtrine. 3. That his attempt to reconcile the Nicene and Athanafian Creeds to Arianifm^ formed in dired: Oppofition to it, is endeavoring^ to bring Light and Darknefs^ and the mod irre- concilable Inconfiftencies to meet together. This for the prefent: The future ufe I iliall make of it, is to come diredly to the point in Que- ftion ; for when it is certainly known what the drift defign and meaning of an Author is, much Pains may be Ipared, and a Difpute fliortned. I hardly know whether ftrid: method would permit me to take notice of the lat- ter part of your Reply, (contained in Pages 61, 63, 64.) it is fo wide and foreign. You mud have had a great mind to fay fome- thing of eternal Generation : Otherwife you would never have introduced it in a place fo improper. The pretence is, that we e<^ui' Q- vocati ii6 ^DEFENSE Qaj.XV, vocaie in talking of eternal Generation ; and therefore it is proper to retort it upon o?, in aniwer to a charge of Equivocation, Bat wherein do we equivocate^ or do any thing like it? Is it in the word, EternaU But we undoubtedly mean it in the Arid: and proper Senie. Is it in the word, Generation ? That is a word of Latitude, capable of more Senies than one. We ule it in the Senie^ which has pre- taird in the Church 1500 Years; and in a pro- per Senfe, according to the Rule o^Tertullian^ Omnis Origo Parens eft. And where thea is the Impropriety, or Equivocation in the word. Generation^ as ufed by us? True, it is not the fame with Human Generation. But who will pretend that Human is to be the mea- fore and ftandard*of all Generation ? Ge- neration, you fay, implies Beginnings and yet we call it * Eternal. Admit that it did ib; yet till That can be made appear, we may be very Jincere in calling it Eternal, iil- tending no Equivocation : You have not proved that all Generation imphes Beginning; and what is more, cannot. You endeavor to make the notion of it abibrd : But, unlefs you candemonftrate the abfurdity of ir, how will you charge us with Equivocation, which w^as the Point ? All you have to fay turns only upon M4f. your 0 ymyttreci tn.v'nv-i )M^a>^ otht «vt9? f^'foc. Cyril. Catech. ii. p- I4f. Qjj.XV. of fome Q^UERIES. ^tj your mirconflrud"ion of, I fliould fay Equivo- cation in, the word Individual \ which, you muft needs know, we undcrlbnd not in your Senfe of it; unlefs \Ve are weak enough to fup- po(e Father and Son to be one Ter/on. You "tiiakc another Argument, by equivocating in the word, Trodu&ion ; which if we ufe at all, we always rake care to explain to a good Senfe ; and never once imagine, that the eter- nal Generation is a temporal Produd:ion. You are very unhappy, to equivocate all the way, while you are retorting the charge o? Equivo- cation ; befides that, could you have retorted it in a handfomer manner, it would not have been pertinent, becaufe it comes out of Place. For, your proper part here, is, not fo much to objed: againll our Scheme, as to defend your own; Pleale to clear your own Hypot be/is firfl: ; and then we may hear what you can fay againfl: ours. The Church of Chrift has beeii in poHcnion of the orefenc prevailing Dod'rines, at Icaft, for 1400 Years: It concerns us, before we part with them, to fee that we may have fomerhing better in their ftead. What if the Carholick Dod:rine has fome Difficulties? Has Arianifm none ? Or muft we change the for- mer for the latter? No, let us firfl: confider whether Arianifm has not more and greater; and then perhaps we may fee reafon enough to keep as we are. it is an ufual Thing with many (Moralifls taay account for it) when they meet with Q^ 1 a dif" ai8 ^DEFENSE Qy.XV. a difficulty which They cannot readily anfwer, immediately to conclude that the Dod:rine i5 Falfe ; and to run directly into the oppofite Periwafion : not confidering that They may meet with much more weighty Objedions there, than before ; or that They may have reafon fuf- ficient to maintain and beheve many Things io Thilofopby or 'Divinity, tho' They cannot an- fwer every Queflion which may be ftarted, or every Difficulty which may be railed againft them» As to the Point we are upon ; while fome are confidering only the Objections againft the Do- dTine of the BlefTed Trinity (how Three can be One ; how the Son could be generated*^ how ^'erfon and Being can be different; and the like) they imagine prefently, that the World, in a manner, has been hitherto miferably miftaken ; and that They are the happy Men, vi^ho fee clearly how, and why. Let but the very fame Men have patience a while, and not imbark in the oppofite Caufe, till They are able to find cut a truer and a juftcr Scheme, and to clear it of all confiderable Difficulties ; I fay, let Them but do thus, and then, 1 am perfwaded, They will be much lefs fanguine in their purfuit of Novelties. In the prefcnt Concroverfy, there are three Schemes, which I may call Catholick, SabelUan, and Arian : One of the Three muft, in the main, be true. The way to know which, is, to weigh and confider the Difficul- lies attending each refpedively ; and to ballance them one againft another. The Advocates of the; Q^u.XVI. of fame (QUERIES. 219 the Two latter have performed rcafonably well, in the ojfenfive part; and elpecially againft each other : But have neither of them yet been able to defend their refped:ive Schemes ; nor , I fuppole, ever will be. But I proceed. Divine Worfhip due To the one God. Thpu /halt have no other Gods before mey Exod. 10. 3. Thou Jhalt 'worfhip the Lord thy God, and Him only jhalt thou ferve. Matt. 4. 10. To Chrift. They worjhip'dH'tm^ Luk. 24. >f-. Let all the Angels of God wor- flnp Him, Heb. 1.6. That all Men Jhould honour the Son^ even as they honour the Fa^ ther, Joh. y.13. Q^ U E R V XVI. Whether by thefe ( of the firft Column ) and the like Texts, Adoration and IVorJhip be not fb appropriated to the one God, as to belong to Him only ? THIS is a very material Enquiry, relating to the objed of Religious Wotftiip ; than which nothing can be of greater Goncernment. Here therefore, if any where, we might expert and demand of You a very full, clear, and latis- fadory Anfwer. I fliall examine your Anfwer, in due time and place. But, firft, ic will be Q, 3 Proper 23<^ ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVI. proper to fliow whatReafons we have to think, |:hat all 7'eitgious Worfliip is appropriated to God only. I Ihall enquire into the SenJe of Scripture, in this Article ; and next proceed to the Judgment and Practice of the Antient Church, the beft Comment upon Scripture. Exod. xo. v.i. hath been already produced. The Words are, Thou /halt have no other Gods before (or befides) me. Which is farther ex- plain*d, v f. (the reafon being the fame, both with refped to Images and falie Gods) Thou Jhalt not how down toThem, nor ferve Them*, All Acts of Religious Worfliip are forbid- den to be offered to any other Being, be- fides the one Supreme God ; to Him they are appropriated, to Him only. • So Dent. 6. 13. Thou Jhalt fear the Lord thy God, md ferve Him : And again 'Deut. i o. 20. Thou fl?alt fear the Lord thy God\ Him jhalt. thou ferve. Which is quoted, and explain'd by our BlefTed LordHimfelf, in thefe Words: Thou fh alt wor^ floip the Lord thy God, and Htm only jhalt thou ferve ^ Matt 4 ic. This was faid in an- fwer to Satan, who did not pretend to be Su- preme, nor defire to be acknowledged as fuch. {See Luk.^, 6.) All He required was, tlhat a Ibleain omward ASt of Adoration and Worfliip fliould te patd Him: And the reafon given for reffaffDg ii^ is not that He was a bad Spirit ^ an Enemy to God ; or that God had not com^ manded that He feodd be worihip'd ; but the % S^e atfo. Exod. Vi. ao.-« 21. 14. Dan. 3. 28. 1 realoa Qu.XVI. of fome Q^UERIES. Z3i reafon is general, thar none are to be worfhip'd but God only. And that thefe and the like Texts were intended to exclude all Beings, be- fide the one Supreme God, from being vvor- ihip'd, either at that Time , or at any Time after, appears, not only from the reafon of the Thing, but from plain Scripture. Before me was there no God form'd, Jteither Jhall there be after me^ lia. 43. ic. If there arife among you a Trophet, or a "Dreamer of Dreams, and giveth Thee a fign or wonder^ and the fign or wonder come to pafs, where- of He fp a ke unto Thee, faying. Let us go after other Gods {which thou hajt not known') and let us ferveTbera, Thou jh a It not hearken, Sec, Deut. 13. I, 1, ?. The Worfliip of the fame one Gqd, exclufive of all others, is by this for ever made unchangeable: Miracles could not be fufficient to give credit to any one, who ihould pretend to introduce another objed: of Worfliip; or to fet up another God, befide the one Supreme God. All Creatures whatever arc hereby effedlually precluded from receiving any religious Homage and Adoration. This is con- firm'd by Si.Taul {Ro7n. i.x\,^c.) who cen- furcs thole that knew God, (that is, acknow- ledged one Supreme God ) and yet glorified Him not as God, bccaule they ferved the Creature more than (or befides) the Creator, who is blejfed for ever. Wherein the Apolllc plainly intimates, that the Creator only is to be ferved'^ and that the Idolatry of the Hea- Q, 4 thens a3> ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVL thens lay in rheir vvorlhiping of the Crea- ture. He does net blame Them for giving fo'veraign, or abfolute Worlhip to the Crea- tures (They could hardly be fo filly, as to imagine there could be more than one Supreme God) but for giving any isuorjhip at all, Sove- raign or Inferior, Abfolute or Relative, to any Thing but the Creator, To the fame purpoie, G^/. 4.8. He condemns thole who did Jervlce, unto Them, which by ^^^ture were no Gods, Which Text I Ihall take care to explain parti- cularly , in another Place. All this is con- firm'd and illuftrated by the Angel, {Rev. i^. 10.-— 12. 9.) who refufed to receive fo much as the outward Ad of Adoration ; giving this Rule and Maxim upon it, fForJhijp God: intimating thereby, that God only is to be wor- Jhifd\ that all Ads of religious Worlliip are appropriated to God only. He does not fay, worfliip God and whom God Jhall appoint ta be worjhifd\ as if He had appointed any be- fides God: nor woriliip God \\Ai\i foveraign Worlhip; as if any inferior iort of Woriliip was permitted to be paid to Creatures; but fimply, plainly, and briefly, IForJhip God. To this I may add, that theReafons which God infifts upon and inculcates, in the Old Tefta- meut, why He, and He alone, in oppofition to all others, is to be worjhifd, are fiich as exclude all Creatures. His being Jehovah^ ^ Creator, Suftainer, Preferyer of all Things, ♦^f?ira.4o. If.4y.$,<)j7. iKing. 19. ij. Jcr.io. 10, n, ix. having Q^u.XVI. of fome (QUERIES. X33 having no God before Him por after Him, and the hke. f This is the Scripture Account of the Obje<3: of Worlhip: There is neither Rule nor Example in it, for the worihiping any Creature whatever j but all the Texts, relating to this Matter, are full, ftrong, and clear for the Worfliip of God only. Now, whatever Reafons Human Wif^ dom may invent for the worihiping of Crea- tures, befides the Creator (as Celfus and Tor- fhyrte of Old , and the Romanijis of later Times, have pretended ) thole are never to be fet againft a clear and plain Law ; or oppofed ro the unerring Wifflom of God , who bed knows to whom Worfliip is proper to be paid, and to whom not. I fliall not here argue the Point from the Nature of the Thing it felf I will fuppofe (without granting) that Creatures may be wife enough to know, ready enough to hear, and able ro relieve our wants, at any Diftance. I will fuppofe alio, that one Creature may be ap- pointed to bear Rule and to have Dominion over many ; as feme have thought particular Angels to prefide over fuch and liich Kingdoms or Countries. I will iuppole Hkewife, that it may feem to Human Wildom. very fit and proper, that fuch Creatures as can aflift, or have the charge of others, fliould be refpeded, worjh'tfd^ and adored by Them. I will luppofe alio, that we may be fo ignorant as not to perceive any great harm, in thefe Suppofitions, from the Na- ture %34 ^ DEFENSE Q^u.XVI. tare of the thing, barely and fingly confider'd. But God's Thoughts are not our Thoughts : He has been pleas'd to enter an exprels Caveat and Prohibition in the Cafe ; and has, no doubt, good reafon for it. PofTibly, He may ap- prehend it to be more for his own Glory, and more for our Good, that our whole Worfliip and Service be paid to Him, than a part only. PofTibly, He may know (liich is Hu- man Infirmity) that if any part, or kind, or degree of Religious Worihip was permitted to"^ be given to Creatures, it might infenfibly alianare our Minds from the Creator \ or eat out all our Reverence and Relpe<3: for God. Or, it may be, that while our Acknowledgments are order'd to be paid to Him, and to Him alone, we may thereby be induced to live more in dependence on Him; become more imme- diately united to Him ; and have the greater IoY€ and efleem for Him. He will nor, per- haps, leave his Favors in the hands, or in the dilpofal of his Creatures, left we fliould forget whom we are principally obliged to; or left we fliould imagine that He is nrit always every where preient, to hear all our Petitions, and to anfwer them, according to his own good Plea- fure. Thefe, or a thoufand better Reafons, in- finite Wifdom may have for appropriating all k6i% of Religious Worfliip to God. It is fuf- ficient for us to know that He has done it: and of this Holy-Scripture has given abundant Proof, as we have before fecn. Now, Qn},XVl of fome Q^UERIES. x3f Now, I come to confider what you have to except againft fo clear a Truth. All is com- prized in one iliort Sentence; one remarkable Diiftind:ion. Abfolnte Supreme Honour is plainly appropriated to 4be 'Per fin of the Fa- ther only (by Exod. lo. 3. Matt. 4. 10.) as the abfolnte Supreme Being, or the one God, (p. 9 4.) From which 1 am to infer, that relative in- ferior Worihip may be paid to the Creatures^ notwithftanding what has been urged, from the whole Tenor of Scripture and Antiquity, to the Contrary. This is the famed T)'tfiin6iion, pleaded by the Heathens of Old, ioxfPagany by the Romanifts of late, for Topijh ; and by You, for Arian Idolatry. I fliall endeavor to convince you how little there is, either of Truth, or Probability, in this fo celebrated "DiftinEiion ; and then put an End to the Argu- ment of this ^uer)>. "Vou fet out unfortunately under a mtftake, as if We were inquiring about RelpecS: and Eftcem, when the Queflion is entirely about Afls Ks^i Religions Worfliip. My Words were IVorjhip and Adoration : Inftcad thereof, you put Honour, an ambiguous Word ; and fo flip over t'hse Difficulty, which you was pinch'd with ; and iiiienftbly lead your Reader of? from the Point, it concern'd you to Ipcak to. Pleafe to remember that we are diiputmg about A&s of Worfliip, Religious Worfliip. Let us keep to the Tervjs we began with; lefl:, by the changijig of Words, we make a change oHdeas, alter ^$6 ^DEFENSE Q^j.XVL and alter the very ftate of the Queftion. This being premised, now I come dired:ly to the Point in Hand. Your pretence is, that nUi- mate, abfolute^ Jupremey fovera'tgn Worfliip is due to the Father only ; Mediate, relative^ inferior, petty Worihip may be paid to Crea- tures : The outward Ads and Circumftances fuppofed ahke in Both , fo far as to make Them Religious, not Civil Worihip. Your conjidering the Father as Supreme, and your intending Him the highefl Relped; imaginable, are ro make His Worfl?ip become fupreme , ab/blute, foveraign Worihip: But your con- Jidering another Being as inferior, dependent, and a Creature only, and your intending Him no more than a proportionate Refped:, are to make the Worihip of Him become i^tferior, relative, petty Worlliip. Worfliip therefore is to take its Quality from the EJteem and In- tention of the Worfliipper, and is to be fup- pos'd higher and lower accordingly. This, I thinks is your real and full Meaning, in as few and as plain Words, as I am capable of Expreffing it. In anfvver to it, I obferve as jfollovvs. I. I can meet with nothing in Scripture to. countenance thole fine-fpun Notions. Trayer we often read of; but there is not a Syllabic about ahfolute and relative, fupreme and i»-i ferior Prayer. We are commanded to pray Fervently and Inceffantly; but never Sove- raignly or Abfolutely, that 1 know of. We have Q^u.XVI. of fome (QUERIES. 13^ have no Rules left Us about raijing or lowering our Intentions, in proportion to the dignity of x\\t Objects. Some Inftrudions, to this purpofe, might have been highly uleful ; and it is very ftrange that, in a Matter of fo great Impor- tance, no Directions fhould be given, either in Scripture, or, at lead:, in Antiquity, how to regulate our Intentions and Meanings, with Metaphyfical Exadneis; fo as to make our Worlliip either A/^/:;, higher, ox higheft oi 2\\^ as occafion fliould require. X. But a greater Objecftion againft this Do- ctrine, is, that the whole Tenor of Scripture runs Counter to it. This may be underftood, in part, from what I have obierved above. To make it yet plainer, I fliall take into Confidc- ration fuch Ad;s and Inftances of Worfhip, as I find laid down in Scripture ; whether under the old or new Difpenfation. Sacrifice was one Inftance of Worfhip re- quired under the Law ; and it is faid ; He that Sacrificeth unto any God, fave unto the Lord only. He /hall he utterly dejiroyed , Exod. XX. xo. Now fuppofe any Perfon, confidering with Himfelf that only ahfohite znd foveraign Sacrifice was appropriated to God, by this Law, ihould have gone and facrificed to other Gods, and have been convided of it before the Judges : The Apology He muft have made foe it, 1 fuppofe, muft have run thus. *' Gentlemen, ** tho* I have facrificed to other Gods, yet, I •• hope, you 1 obferve, that I did it not abfo- *' Intely: ^38 y^DEFENSE Q^ii.XVh *• lutely : I meant not any ahfolute ox /it- ** preme Sacrifice (which is all that the Law *' forbids) but relative and inferior only, f •' regulated my Intentions with all imaginable •* care ; and my efteem with the mod critical ** Exadnefi: I confider'd the other Gods^ ** whom J lacrificed to, as inferior only, and *' infinitely ^o\ referving all foveraign Sacri- *' fice to the fupreme God of Ifrael. This, Or the like Apology mud: , I prefume , have brought off the Criminal, with fome applaufe for his Acutenefs, if your Principles be true. Either you mufi: allow this ; or you muft ht content to fay, that not only ahfolute fit fr erne Sacrifice (if there be any Senfe in that Phra(e) but all Sacrifice was, by the Law, appropriate to God only. Another Inftancc of IVorjlnp^ is making of Vows, religious Vows. We find as little Ap- pearance of your famed Diftindlion here, as in the former cafe. We read nothing oi foveraign ^nd inferior , ahfolute and relative Vows ; that we fliould imagine fupreme Vows to be appropriate to God , inferior permitted to Angels, or Idols, or to any Creature. Swearing is another Inftance much of the fame kind with the foregoing. Swearing, by Gois Name, is a plain Thing, and well under- llood : But if you tell us of foveraign and in- ferior Swearing, according to the inward Re- fpe£t or Intention you have, m Proportion to the Dignity of the Peribu by whofc Name you Swear, Q^u.XVI. of fome Q^UERlES. 139 Swear, it muft found perfed:Iy new to us. All Swearing which comes fliort in its Refped'S, or falls below Soverd'tgn^ will, I am afraid, be lit- tle better than Trofanefs, Such being the Cafe, in refpedJ of the Adfs of Religious Worillip aheady raention'd, I am noW to ask you, what is there fo peculiar in the Cale of Invocation and Adoration, that They fhould not be thought of the iame kind With the other? Why Ihould not abfolute and rela- ttve Prayer and Proftration appear as abfdfd, as abfolute and relative Sacrifice, Vows, Oaths, or the hke? They are Ads and Inftanccs Of r^/i^/'^/zj-Worfhip, like the other; appropriated to God in the fame Manner, and by the lame Laws, and upon the fame Grounds and Rea- fons. Well then, will you pleafe to confider, whether you have not begun at the vvroiig end, and cotnmitted an i^^^^ (ts^Ti^o^ in your way of thinking. You imagine that Adfs of religious Worfliip are to derive their Signi- fication and Quality, from the intention add meaning of the Worlhippers; whereat the very rcverfe of it is the Truth. Their Meaning and Signification is fix'd and dercrmin'd by God Himielf; and therefore we are never to ufe them with any other meaning, under peril of Profanels or idolatry. God has not left us at Liberty to fix what Sefile we pleafe upon religious Worfliip, to render it high or low , abfolute or relative, at Difcrction ; fufreme whea offered to God, and if to others inferior I 44© ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVL inferior \ as when to Angels, or Saints, or Images, in fuirable Proportion. No : Religion was not made for Metaphyfical Heads only ; fuch as might nicely diftinguifli the leveral De- grees and Elevations of Relpedt and Honour among many Objed:s. The iliort and plain way, which (in pity to Human Infirmity and to prevent Gonfufion) it has pleated God to take with us, is to make all religious Worfhip his own ; and io it is foveraign of Courft. This I take to be the true Scriptural, as well as only reafonable Account of theObjed: of Wor- ihip. We need not concern our ftlves (it is but vain to pretend to it) about determining the Senfe and Meaning of religious Worlliip. God Himfelf has took care of it; and it is already fix'd and determin'd to our Hands. It means, whether we will or no, it means, by Divine Inftitution and Appointment, the 2)/- vinity, the Supremacy, the Soveraignty of its Objed:. To milapply thofe Marks of Dig- nity, thofe appropriate enfigns of divine Ma- jefty ; to compliment any Creature with them, and thereby to make common what God ^as made proper, is to deify the Works of God's Hands, and to ferve the Creature inftead of the Creator, God blefTed for ever. We have no occafion to talk o^ foveraign, abfolute, ulti- mate Prayers, and luch other odd Fancies: Grayer is an addrefs to God, and does not admit of thofe novel Diftindions. In fliort then, Here is no Room left for your diftin- guilhing^ Q^u.XVI. of fome (QUERIES. %^\ guilhing ber\ve«n fovera'ign and inferior Adoration. You mull firfl: prove, whar you have hitherto prefumed only and taken for granted , that you are at Hberty to fix what Meaning and Signification you pleafe to the Ads of religious Worlhip ; to make rhcm high or low at Difcretion. This you will find a very difficult undertaking. Scripture is be- fore-hand with you; and, to fix it more, the concurring Judgment of the carliefl: and beft Chriftian Writers. All religious Worihip is hereby determind to be, what you call abfo- Jute and foveraign. Inferior or relative Wor- ihip appears now, to be Contradiction in Senfe, as it is novel in Sound ; lixke an inferior or relative God. To what hath been laid, I may add a few farther Confiderations from Scripture. The Apoftles Barnabas and Taul^ when the '^ Lycaonians would have done Sa- crifice unto Them , did not tell Them that Sacrifice was of equivocal Meaning ; and that They might proceed in it, provided only that They would red:ify their Intentions, and con- Jider Them ^'^Apoftles only ; but They forbad them to Sacrifice to Them at all. The Angel, in the Revelations, did not dired St. John to confider Him only as an AngeL and then to go innocently on, in his JVorjhip of Him; but He order'd Him to Worfhip God. Our Blefled Lord did not tell the Devil that all external Worfliip was equivocal, and might be offered to Angels or Men, provided the Intention was * Aa. 14. R regulated, ^4^ ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVt regulated, and rt{^tdi proportioned ; but He told Him plainly that all religious Worihip was ap- propriate to God. In fine, nothing is more evident than that the Def!gn , both of the Law and the Gofpel, was to ertabliih this great Truth, and to Root out Creature - IVorJhip. ** And this was, as Dr. Cndzvorth rightly ob-- <* ferves, the grand Realbn why the Antient V Fathers fo zealouily oppofed Arianifin ; be- ** cauie that Chriftianity, which was intended " by God Almighty for a means to extirpate *' ^agan Idolatry, was thereby it fclf Taga- *^ nized and Idolatriz,ed\ and made highly ** guilty of that very thing, which is fo much '* condemn'd in the Tagans, that is, Creature- '* Worjhip, This might be proved by fundry •* Teflimonies of Athanafius^ Bafil, Gregory •* Nyjfen, Gregory Nazianzen, EpiphaniMs^ ** Chryfojiom, Hilary, Ambroje , An ft in e^ ^' Fatiftinus, and Cyril of Alexandria-^ All of ** Them charging the Arians, as guilty of the •* very fame Idolatry with the Gentiles, or '* Pagans, in giving religious Worjloip, even ** to the JVord :md Son of God Himfelf (and ** confequently to our Saviour Chrift) as He was '* fuppofed by Them to be bur ^Creature *. But, in aniwer perhaps to This, it may be faid, by fuch as run Things off in a confuled manner and do not. ftay to diftinguilli , that certainly there is a wide and great Difference between giving Honour to Heathen Idols, and ♦ Cudw. Intell. Syft; p. 618. doing Q^u.XVI. of fome (QUERIES. 243 doing it to our Saviour Chrift, tho' a Creature only. No doubt but there is ; and God torbid that any Chriftian ihould fay, or think other- wife. But that is not the point. The Worfliip even of Saints and Angels is much preferable to Tagan Worlhip. But ftill They are Both equally, tho' not equally culpable. Idolatry % and are Breaches of the firft Commandmenc, Whatever love, refped:, gratitude, ^c. may be due for what our Lord and Saviour has wrought for us, if Hebe dill 2iCreature, All cannot come up to Worjhip, which is appropriate to God alone. Well, but it may be farther pleaded, that here is God's command in the Cafe, which makes it widely different ftom any of the for- mer. Very True, there is fo; and we fhall make a proper ufe of that hereafter : But the Queftion is, what is the fundamental Rule of r^'/i^ii?^/ Woriliip? Is it to "coorjhip God only 1 Or is it to worfliip God, and ijuhomfoever be- fides, God/hall appoint to be worjhip'd^ They who pretend the latter, muft fliow Ibme Foun- dation, if They can, in Scripture, for it. Where is it intimated, either in the Old or New Teftament, that Worfl^iip fliould be paid to any bcffides God? Neither the Law nor the Prophets ^ neither Chrift nor His Apofties ever intimated any thing like it. Our Saviour did not lay, worfliip God, and 'ovhomfoever God Jhall order to be worjhip'd'^ nor did the Angel, in the Re- velations, infinuate atiy (iich Thing: St. Taul never told us of ferying the Creator, and R % whom 144 -/^DEFENSE Qjj,XYh whom the Creator iliould nominate befides; but Creator only. The like may be obferved up- on other occafions, where this might have been properly intimated, but is conftanrly omitted. Nothing therefore can be plainer than that the fundamental Rule for Worihip is, that God on- ly is to be worjhifd. AliWoriliip, inconfiftent with this j^rimarj and perpetual Law, muft, of Confequence, appear Idolatrous, either in the Praftice, or the Principle : And it is thus that the yirians , following a Scripture-Command but not upon Scripture-Trinciples , and prad:i- fing a Chrijlian Duty upon a Tagan Founda- tion of Creature- IVorJhif and 'Polythei/m ^ (land charged with Idolatry. 2. To confirm us farther in the Truth of the Principles here alTerted, I ihall fubjoin a fecond Confideration, drawn from the Pradice of the primitive Martyrs ; who may be prcfumed to have underftood the Principles of that Religion, for which They chearfully laid down their Lives, It is well known that They readily fubmitted to all kinds of Torment, and to Death it felf, rather than offer Adoration, Incenfe, or Sacri- fice to the Heathen Deities. Now, if Soveraign Woriliip be all that is appropriated to God ; and if no Worfliip be Soveraign, but w^hat the in- ward Intention, and fecret Efleem of the Wor- fliipper make io; how thoughclefs were They, to refill even unto Blood, for fear of committing a Sin, which it was not poflible for Them to have been guilty of They could never have blunder'd Q^u.XVI. offome Q^UERIES. 245- blundcr'd fb egregioufly, as to have confiderd the Heathen Deirics (which They heart, Jy de- ipiled} as Supreme Gods ; or to have intended theai Soveraign Worihip; and therefore could not have been guilty of giving them that JTor- jhip which is appropriate to God. They had fo mean and defpicable an Opinion of the 'Pa- gan Deities, that if the Qiiality of the Woriliip is to be eftimatcd from the iccret EJleern and Intention of the IVorJfnper, fuch Adts of Wor- iliip mud: have dwindled into no Worihip in reahty ; hardly amounting to (b much as an empty ceremonious Compliment. Where then was the Harm of Sacrificing to Idols ? What Law had condemn'd it, if your Principles be true? The outward Ad being equivocal^ this could not be interpreted Sacrifice, fuch as God had forbid to be offer'd to any but Himfelf. But Thofe primitive Saints were un- acquainted with your refined Subtilties, having learned their Logick from Scripture, and the plain common Senfe and Reafon of Mankind. They knew that the Signification of Worfliip and Sacrifice depended not on their arbitrary Efteem, or Iccrec Intention; but had been be- fore fix'd and determined by God. To offer Sacrifice to the Heathen Deities, was, by Con- ilrudiion and Imphcation, declaring Them to be immutable, eternal, fnpreme^ and flri(3:ly divine. They could not be guilty of luch a ibiemn Lie, or commit fuch barefaced Pro- fauefs and Idolatry. They would not profticute R 3 th« %^6 A DEFENSE Q^u.XVL the Marks and Charaders of Divinity to Thofe who weie by Nature no Gods ; nor give That to Jdols, vvhicn was appropriated to God only. This was their manner of reafoning ; and this was right : For, indeed, upon the other Hypo- tbefis ^ there is nothing fo mean or low, .but what a Man might pay religious Woriliip to. For Inftance : Pray to Angels , but confidtr .them as Angels, with proportionate Refped:, and there will be no harm in it. Worfhip Saints <3eparted, but intend them only fuch relped: as is due to Saints, and all is right. Fall down before a Crucifix with humble Proftration, but confider it as a Crucifix, and intend little or nothing by it, and all \^ well. Thefe feem to me the unavoidable Conlequences of this famed Diftindion ; and thefe are the ufes which have adually been made of it, fince Men have learn'd to be fiibtile, inftead of wife ; and have departed from the fundamental Maxim of re- vealed Religion, that God alone is to be wor- fhip'd with religious TV or (hip. The Sum of what hath been laid, on this important Article, may be comprized m the following Particulars. I. That, under theOldTeftament, all religi- ous Worfliip was declared to belong to God only ; and upon fuch Reafons as exclude all Creature - Worjhip ; Namely , becaufe He is God) Jehovah, Eternal, Immutable; Creator, Preferver, Suftainer and Governor of all Things. %, That Qu.XVI. of fome Q^UERIES. 147 2. That our bleffed Lord made no Alteration in this Law; but explained and confirm'd it: His Apoftles, after Him, inculcated the fattie Thing, long after our Saviour's Exaltdtto'n and Afcenfion , and an Angel from Heaven rein* forc'd it, thereby proclaiming its perpetual Obli- gation. No Diftindion of Woriliip, Ptedi ate and ultimate, was ever intimated; nor of Inferior and Soveraign : But all religious Worfliip fiip- pofed to have one Meaning, one Significancy^ one 0^>^, viz. Th^ divine Nature \ whether lubfifting in one Perfon, or more. 3. Such being the Rule and (landing Law for religious Woriliip, none can have any fight, title, or claim to JVorjhi^^ but in Conformity to the fame Rule. 4. If the Son of God be very God, Jehovah^ Creator^ Sujiainer, and Trejerver of all Things; then He borh may, and ought to be worfliip'd, in conformity to the Scripture-Rule, and upon Scripture-Principles: But if He be a Creature only, the worfliip of Him is not confident with the fundamental Rule borh of the Law and the Gofpel. In a word ; if the Son of God is to be "worfryifd. He is not a Creature : ii a Crea- ture, He is not to be voorjhip'd. It remains now only to inquire, whether the primitive Church, which had the lame Scriptures chat we have and better Opportunities of know- ing and underftanding Them, made the fame or the like Conclufions from Them. It is an Ar- gument of no fmall Importance ; and theretore R 4 I fliall 248 -^DEFENSE Qjj.XYJ. I fliall think it worth the while, to give you a brief Summary of the Sentiments of the earheft Chriftian Writers; and in their own Words, that every impartial Reader may be able to judge for Himiclf. Jufiin Martyr, giving account of the Chri- ftian Worlhip, fays plainly, *' ^ We worfliip " God alone; and, None but God ought tq " be woriliip'd. b jithenagoras, in like manner, fpeaks to this effed:: '' We are not to worfliip the World, *' but t\\Q Maker of it; we worfliip not the " Towers of God, but their Creator and <• Governor, ' 1 heo_philus fxys, *' I will Honour the King, *' but I will not Worjhlp Him. ^ I will wor- *• fliip God, the real and true God: no one " ought to be worfliip'd but God alone. ^Tatian, ro the fame purpofe, tho' not fo fully, lays ; " The Works of God, made for our '* Sakcs, I will not worfliip. ^TertuUian fays, '*What we worfliip is on^ a 0£<3V yw/fv lA^'i^v quiTotara molem iflam de nihilo expreflit. uipol. c. 17. ' Pr:]ercribitur mihi ne quern Alium Deum dicam, — ne quern aliun? adorem, aut quoquo roodo venerer, prxter unicum Ilium qui ita mandat. Scorp» c» 4. p» 490. Ri^nU, " God, Q^u.XVI. of fome QUERIES. 149 *' God, who made the whole Mafs of Things '* purely from Nothing. I am commanded not *« to call any other, God, nor to adore ^ or ia " any wiic worjh'tp any other befides that •' one. * Clement oi Alexandria has more to this purpole : '' Angels and Men (fays He) are the '* Works of God's Hands: Let none of you '* woriliip the Sun, bur lee Him fet his Heart *' upon the Sun's Creator: Neither let Him *' deify the World; but to the Maker of the ** JForld let his Dcfires be. I feek after God, " the Creator of the World, Him that light- '* ed up the Sim, and not after the Creatures *' (ep>a) which God hath made. The Gentiles *' ought to learn, from the Law and the Pro- *' phets, to woriliip the one God, and Him '* only, who is, in reality. Almighty. This " it is to worihip the divine Being in true " Righteoufnefs of Pradice and Knowledge. \ Irenaus expreffes Himlelf thus: " You \' ought to woriliip the Lord your God, and to *' ferve Him only, and to give no credit to a "AyyiAoi (: 'A*3-f&)9rr« tfa^ p. f^m Ed. Ox. Tov n^(rfjui( oijfx,iov(>ycv, tov liAiS j>'«65 ^r/i ^ijj. vofjca, xm\ 7rpj€iv Qicv T ovTZjq ovTU, 7rz(.v%y,pjiTCP(X,, p. 825. To y iH jf.)'7x.i6eiv TO .9-f4ev 2kjU, 't ovtzj^ oiKMoaruv/j; rpjoiv n y^, yyaa)y ^ too ^gi.XXn'i T ► triZeiv i^ T ViXiov, y^ rcc S QioZ ^,y^,ovf''/^/c{^^ oCTrtj) vj/mTv UTrri- 'Jo^t^j^ dihtu-y{sf^toic, f/jY) Xoit^iveiv rjj jctjV^ Tm^ee, T K-nvzcvTU, p. 57^. / /hall add another Pajf:ige' svxfiV Wi(.• "TrviZ^ci. tt to t:^ ^>)TiKo» ci'ooyjijst. KO.; 7:^(rKvvr,Z^^/ift ApoI- I. p. 1 1 . Athena- (^u.XVII. ef fome QUERIES. %si Athenagoras has before inrimared that no- thing Icis than the ^ Creator of the World is to be worjhifd. But then He tells us too, that all Things were ^ created by the Son : and therefore no wonder if, giving account, to the Emperor, of the God whom the Chriftians wor- iliip'd, He ^' joins the Son with the Father. Tbeofhilus declares, as before feen, for the Woilhip of God only; and fays, the King is not to be worfliip'd, becaufe He is not God. But then, as to the Son, He ^ owns Him to be God ; and therefore of Conlequence muft fup- pofe Worfliip due to Him. Tatian teaches that God only is to be Wor- fliip'd ; not ^ Man, not the Elements, not the' Creatures, hf/.i^pyU. Very good : Bur the Son who ^ created Matter, and is ' \yyi\m h/xiap' yoi, might be worfliip'd notwithfl:andir!g. Tertullian is fo Icrupulous, that He lays, He will not fo much as call Any other, God, but the God whom He worfliip'd , and to whom alone He pronounces all Worfliip due. Bur He mufl: certainly include the Son in that only God ; as every one knows who ever look'd mto his Writings : And accordingly He s admits the wor- fliip of Him. Clement of Alexandria, as w^e have obferv'd above, ^procefts againft the Worfliip of Crea- a Sze the paffage above, p. 248. b See above, p. iSo- p. 12*. d Pag, 150. e Pag. 17, 18. 79. f See above, f. 189. g Apolog, c.ai- Ad Uxor. ). 2. c. 6* h P. 249. S tureSi 158 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVII. tares \ and allows no Worfliip but to the Ma- ker and Governor of all Things. But then no Man more ^ exprefs than He, for the ic'^r- jhipiiig of God the Son. TheRcafon is plain: The Son \s^ Maker ^nd Governor of theW^orld, and even Tiavrox^-mp, according to this excel- lent Writer. Irenaus likewife, as above cited, gives his Teftimony for the Worlhip of God only; and againft the Worfliip of any Creature. But the fame Irenaus as conftantly fuppoics the Son to be truly God, and one God with the Father and exprefly *= exempts Him from the numbes of Creatures ; and therefore no wonder if He admits the Son to be ^ invocated, as well as the Father. I fhall obferve the like of Origen, and then have done; referring the Reader, for the reft, to the compleat Colledtion of Teftimonies lately made by the learned ^ Mr. Bingham, with very judicious Reflections upon them. Orlgeii, as we have feen above, declares for the Worfliip of the one God, in oppofition to 2S}LCreatures,l\iJL\\ipy'AyuxXiyiiCAv:tj 'KrivTx, o p. 586. ,j-^ h Euy^S(£r&> ru! Xoyu reu ©joy, ai/yafX/sva ocurov lacrBC^, p. 238.' tcv ^^.}(^yoy uurav Ao<^v ^ ©sow (ZS^CKWyirDf/jSV, p. 259. N. 13. Here the Tranjlator (as it is ufual vpith Him to mi^reprefent fuch Pajfages as relate to the Son) renders 2^'>(5vov ociruy, ejus Mini- ilrum. The Senfe is: Diipcnfer of themt i.e. Prophecies, '.ujl befori S ^ the ^6o ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVil. the only one to be entirely depended on,asgiv- ing the true Senfe oi Origen, or of the Church in his Time) is conrain'd in thelc Particulars. 1. That God the Son, if a Creature, or not Creator y or not truly God, fliould not be "i^vor- Jhifd 2it all. 2. That being truly God, and Creator, &c. He may be worihip'd ; either jointly with the Father, as one to 0:£«* (ni)ixc, 'kc. p. ;5Sz. The fame Thought is thut exprefi'd by Cyril I. - ,M>jTg ;^ TO TifJt^Zi! Tov TTcCTi^ vo'fjiCeiv, tv 77 T hi/JjiovpytjfJbu-mn "^ ^iSi^^i^M it 7r^oa-r.vf)jniftipMiou of Terfons is the fame with a 'Difference of Nature:, and that a Subordination of the Son, as a Son, to the Fa- ther, imphes an efTentialDiiparity and Inequahty betwixt Them; which you can never make out. Inftead of proving the Son to be a Creature, and that He is to be v/orfliip'd notwirhltanding (which are the Points you undertake) all that you really prove is, that the Son is not the Fa- ther ^ or firft Perfon, nor confidered as x\\^firji Tcrfon in our Worlliip of Him ; which is very true, but very wide of the purpofe. What follows in your Reply,(/. 91, 92, 93.) does not need any farther Anfwer ; being either barely Repetition , or Comments on your own Mt- ftake of the meaning of the word, Indivi- dual-^ of which enough hath been faid before^ You are pleafed (/^^. 94.) to make z wonder of it, that I ihould quote Heb. 1.6. in favor of my HyJ)othefis. But if you confider that jhe Angels are There ordered to worfoip the Son; and that Worihip is appropriated to God only, by many Texts of Scripture, and the concurring Senfc of Antiquity, as 1 have fhown above; there wilt be little tarther occafion for wondring, in ib clear a Cafe. In that very Chapter {Heb. i.) it is Efficiently intimated what it was that made the Sou capable of re- ceiving Worfliip and Adoration. He is declared to have made the Worlds \ to be the Shining- forth ,of^hisFatb0fsGlorjy^ and phe exprefk -* ■- **" ^''^ ' " '^' " '^ ' ' ' ■ ' Imag^e^ Q^u. XVII. of fame (QUERIES. 265- Image of bisVer/bit; and ro uphold allThings by the 'ouord of his'Power, (v. 2,3.) Strong and lively Exprcifions of his divine, eternal, un- created Nature; fuch as might give Him the jufteft claim to the Worlhip and Adoration of Men and Angels. In the dole, you have a Remark about the error oi Arins\ which, you fay. did not con/iji in the making the Son ^ dijiincT from , and really fubordinate to the Father {for that was aliz'ays the Chri- fiian T)o^rine.) Here you come upon us with ge7ieral Terms, and equivocal ExprefTions ; Leaving the Reader to apprehend that theChri- ftian Church believed the Son to be a diftin^, Jeparate, inferior Being ; in fliort, a Creature ; as Arius plainly, and you covertly afTert: Whereas there is not an Author, of Reputa- tion, among all the Ancients, before Arius^ that taught or maintained any fuch Thing. A Subordination, in fome Senie, They held ; and that is all ; not in Arius's Senfe, not in Your's. Well , but you proceed to tell us , where- in his Error confided, viz,, in pre fuming to affirm, nf>on the Trinciples of his own un- certain "Fhilofofhy , and without warrant from Scripture, that the Son was l^ ix G',ra>v^ and that 'h 'Tro-n cti i'/. w. Arius had (b much Fhilofophy, or rather common Senfe, as to think ; and fo much Franknefs and Ingenuity, as to confefs ; that there neither is, nor can be any Medium between God and Creature. He was not fo ridiculous as to imagine that God firft i66 -/^DEFENSE du.XVII. firft made a Subjlance, and then out of that fre-exijlmg created Subftance made the Son ; Befides that, oven this way, the Son had been, in the laft refult, g? ^jc oW^v: Nor was He weak enough to believe that any thing, ad extra^ had been co-eval, or co-eternal with God Him- felf. If He had, He need not have fcrupled to have allow'd the hke Privilege to the Son ; the firft and beft of all Beings, except God Him- felf, in His Opinion. But fince you think your own T^hilofophy lb much better than Arius's, will you be lo kind as to tell us plainly whether the Son be of the fame divine Subjfance with the Fa- ther; or of fome extraneous Subftance which eternally pre exifted\ or from nothing. The firjt you deny diredtly , as well as Ariiis ; and the fecond alio, by plain neceffary Confequence: And why then fliould you differ upon the third, which is the only one left, and muft be true, if Both the other be falie ? If Arius was ralli in affirming This, He was equally raili in denying the Sons Co- eternity with the Father, and again in denying h\s Conjtibjlantiality^ and lb your cenlureof Him recoils inevirably upon your felf. Then, for the other Error of Arins, in aflerting that the Son once was not ; as having been pro- duc'd, or created, by the Father ; in your way, you corred: it thus * : True, the Son was /r(?- dnc'd^ brought into exijience , had a begin- ning, and was not, metaphyfically, eternal \ but yet, for ail chat, it was an Error, in Thi- ♦p, 51.63. iofophy. Q^u.XVIir. of fome (QUERIES. 167 lofopby, for Arms to fay, that He once was not. Unhappy Arius I dereftcd by his Ad- "uerfaries^ and traduced by his own Friends^ from whom He might reafonably have expedted kinder Ufage. Let me intreat you, hereafter, to be more confiftent: Either vahie and rclpcd the Man, as the great Reviver and Reftorer of /ri- mittve Cljriftianity \ or renounce his Principles, aad declare Him a Heretick, as We do. Q^ U E R Y XVIII. Whether Worflnp and Adoration^ both from Men and Angels , was not due to Him^ long before the comrrhencing of his Mediato- rial Kingdom , as He was their Creator and Treferver (See Col. i. 16, 17.) And whether that be not the fame Title to Ado- ration which God the Father hath, as Au- thor and Governor of the ^niverfe, upon the T)G^ofs own Principles ? YOU anfvver, that tho' the World was created by the Son, yet no Adoration was due to Him upon that Account, either from Angels or from Alen ; becaufe it was no Act of Dominion, and He did it merely minifterially {p. 94. ) juft as no Adoration is now due from us to Angels, for the Benefits they convey to us ; becaufe they do it merely inftrumi^ntally. This is plain dealing ; and however I may diflike the Thing, I commend the %6B ^ D E F E N S E Q^u. XVIII. the franknefs of ic. You are very right, upon thefe Principles, in your parallel from Angels; Had the Ancients thought the Office of the Son minifterial, in your low Senfe, They would have paid Him no more refpedt than they paid to Angels-^ and would certainly never have worjhifd Him. But I pafs on : Creation, you fay, is no A^ of "Dominion ; and therefore is not a fufficient Foundation for Worihip. The fame Reafon will hold with refpedt to the Fa- ther alfb ; for, Creating is one thing, and Ruling another. Yet youl find that Scripture makes Creation the ground and reafon of Worihip, in lb particular and diflinguifliing a Manner, that no Perfbn whatever, that had not a hand in Creating, has any right or title to Woriliip, upon Scripture- Principles ; to which Carholicl< Antiquity is entirely Confonant, as we have obferved obove. I did not found his Right of Worihip on Creation only, but Trefervation too; referring to CololT i. 17. By Him alt Things confift \ to which may be added Heb. I. 3. 'Upholding all Things by the word of his Tower, The Titles of Creator, Treferver, Suftainer of all Things found very high ; and exprels His luper- eminent Greatnels and Ma«5 jcfty, as well as Our Dependence; and there- fore may feem to give Him a full Right and Title to Religious Worlliip; elpecially if it be confider'd, that they imply Dominion^ and caush not be underftood without it. Befides that Creator, as hath been lliown, is the Mark, or, Q^u. XVIII. of fime QUERIES. 2(J9 CharaBertfltck of the true God. to whom all Honour and Worlhip is due. Add to this, that by Job. I. I. the Son was dum in fua venit, cum Homo nullum feceric Mundum? p.yir. t E»' ^t h-^H^ XiyiruJ, ycu.) cm tk'I^ p(^!C£^- to VZS-tf'z-uj ovoj^ ritfne^, Cyril, Akx. Thef, p. I39. wholc 1JO ^DEFENSE Qu.XVIII. whole Perfon, with the fame Power and Au- thority, which, as God, He always had; and now was to hold in a different Capacity, and with the Addition of a new and fpecial Title, that of Redeemer. * They therefore who endeavor to found the Son*s Title to Wor- fliip, only upon the Powei-s and Authority of the Mediator, or God- Man, after the Re- furred:ion (alledging Job. 5-. ii. T^hiL x. 10. Heb. 1.6. and the like) give us but a very lean and poor Account of this Matter; neither con- /iftent with Truth, nor indeed with their own Hypot he/Is. You quote Thil. 2. 6. in favour of your Notion; and fay, thatChrifl: u^ as from the Beginning in the form of God\ yet He did not ajfttme to Himfelf to he honoured like unto God, till after his Humiliation. But this Pofition can never be made out from that Text, Allowing you your Interpretation, about, af fuming to be honoured, yet this can men.n on- ly, that He did not affume, during his Humi- liation, without any reference to what He had done before. It is very clear from Joh.iy.^. that our blefTcd Saviour was to have no greater Glory after his Exaltation and Afcenfion, than He had before the World was. Glorify me., with thine own felf, with the Glory, which I had with Thee , before the World was. His Glory had, to appearance, been under am Eclipfe, duting the ftatc of his Humiliation j * Clarke's Script. Do6lr. Prop. 48. 5*0, ^i. Clarke's Reply, pag. 259. Q^u. XVIII. of fome Q^UERIES. 271 But after that, He was to appear again in full Ludre; in all tiie Biightncls and Splen- dor of his divine Majcfty , as He had done ever before. You think, that our Worjhip of Him, in his own diflinct Terfon and Chara- Ber, commenced after bis Refurrecfion from the dead. I might allow this to be fo in Fad: ; and yet maintain, that He always had the lame jud: Right and Title to religions Worfliip: which mull: have had its effed:, had it been clearly and di(lind:ly revealed, fooner. This is enough for my purpole ; in as much as I con- tend only, that the Woriliip due to Him is not founded merely upon the Povrer and Authority fuppofed to have been given Him after his Re- furrecSion -, but upon his fcr final Dignity, and ejfential Perfections. He might have had the very fame right and claim all along, that ever He had after ; only it could not take effedt, and be acknowledged, till it came to be clearly re- vealed. Thus, God the Father had, undoubtedly, a full Right and Title to the Worfliip and Service of Men, or of Angels, from the firft: But that Right could not take place before He revealed and made Himfelf known to Them. This, I fay, is fufficient to my purpofe; and all that I infift upon. Yqk, becaufe I have a religious Veneration for every Thing which was uni- verfally taught and believed by the earlieft Catholick Writers, efpecially if it has Ibmc Countenance likewife from Scripture ; I in- cline to think that Worihip, diftindl Wor- ihip, 27i ^DEfENSE Q^u.XVm. fliip , was paid to the Son, long before his Incarnation. Irenatis is * exprefs that the AoV^^ vvas wor- ihip'd of old, together with the Father. And this muil have been the Scnlc of all thoie Fa- thers, bwfore the Council of Nice, who under- flood and believed that the Pcribn who ap- peared to the Tatriarchs, who prefided over the JezL'iJh Church, gave them the Law, and all along headed and conducted that People, was the fecond Perfon of the ever blefTcd Trinity. Now, this was the general and unanimous Opi- nion of the AntC'Nicene Writers, as hath been iliown at large, under ^(ery the fecond. And it is obiervable, that Eujebius and Athanafius^ (two very confiderable Men , and thoroughly vers'd in the Writings of the Chnflians before Thern ) tho' They were oppofite as to Party, and difFer'd as to Opinion, in fome Points; yet They f entirely agreed in This, that the Son was ^-juor/hifd by Abraham, Mofes, &c. and the Jcwijh Church. And herein, had we no other Writings left, we might reafonably believe that They fpake the Senle of their Pre- deceflors, and of the whole Chriftian Church, as well before, as in their own Times. You will fay perhaps, that the Worlhip, iuppofcd to have been then paid to the Son, was not di- * Qui igitur a Prophetis adorabatur Deus Vivus , Hie eft Vi- vorum Deus & Verbum Ejus 1. 4. c. f . p-2;i. Ed. Bencd. See alfo Novatian. c. if. Dcum & Angclum invocatum* t Eufeb. E. H. 1. I. c. 2. See alfo Comm, in Ifa. p. 381. 98^. Athanaf. Vol. 1. p. 443. 44;"' ftin£i Q^u. XVIII. offome QUERIES. %t^ jtin5i Worlhip. But it is fufficient that it was (according to the Scnlc of the Chriftian Church) paid to the Tey^fon appearing, the Ter- fon of the Son , and He did not refiife it ; which is the very Argument that * fome of the Ante-Nicene Writers ufe in Proof of his Divinity. The Tatriarchs worlliip'd chat Per- fon, who appeared and communed with Them ; fuppofing Him to be the God of the Univcrfe, to whom of right all Worfliip belongs. Had He not been what They took Him for. He lliould have rejected that Worlhip, as the f An- gel did iV/<^;;<9^^//s Sacrifice; and as the Angel, in the Revelations, rejedted the Worfliip which St. John would have offered Him. In a word ; fince the Son received that Worfliip, in his own> TPerfon (according to the Antients) it muft be £id, He was then diftin^ly worfnip*d, and ia his own Right, as being truly God. How- ever That be , my Argument is ftill good . that the Son (having been in the For7?i of God, and God'^ Creator^ Tre fewer and Suftainer of all Things, from the Beginning) had a Right to Worfliip, even upon your Principles (much more mine) long before the commencing of his * Novatian may here [peak the Senfe of all. On Gen. ^i. He com* menti thus: Si Angclus Dei loquitur Hxc ad Jacob, atque Ipfe An- gelas infcrt, diccns; Ego funi Deus qui vifus fum tibi in loco Dei: non tantummodo Hunc, Angelum, fed 8c Deum pofitum, fine ulla hajfitatione confpicimus; Quique S'lb'i votum refert ab Jacob Az^^ natum ^^t, ^c. — — — Nullius Alterius Angcli porelt hie nccipi tanta Auftoritas, ut Deum Se eHe fateatar, 8c votum Slbl fadluai ciTe Teftetur, nifi tantummodo Chrifti— — r, 27. t Judges 13. 16. T Mediih 274 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVIlI. Mediatorial Kingdom : And therefore his Right and Title to Worfliip was not founded upon the Towers then fuppofed to have been given Him: Confequently, thole Texts which you refer to, for that purpofe, are nor pertinently alledged ; nor are they of ftrcngth iufficient to bear all that ftrefs which you lay upon Them. ThisFoint being fettlcl, I might allow you that, in fome Senfe, diflin^ Worfhip commenc'd with the difiivEi Title of Son, or Redeemer: That is, our BlelTed Lord was then firfl: war- jhifd, or commanded to be worfliip'd by us, under that diftindt Title or Charalier ; having before had no other Title or Chara6ier pe- culiar and profer to Himielf, but only what was * common to the Father and Him too. Tho' Father, Son, and Holy-Ghoft are all jointly concern'd in Cr^^/^i^//» Redemption, and San- Bification ; yet it rnay ieem good to Infinite Wifdom, for great Ends and Realbns, to attri- bute each refpedively to one Terfon, rather than Another; fo that the Father may be em- fhatically Creator, the Son Redeemer, the Holy Ghoft SanBifier: And upon the com- mencing of thefeTitles refpcdivcly, the dijiinB Worfliip of each (amongft Men) might accord- ingly commence alfo. Excellent are the Words * Sic Deus voluit novare Sacramentum, ut nove Unus ere- deretur per Vtlmm & Spiritum, ut Coram jam Deus in M^ propriis Nommihus & Terfonis cognofceretur , qui & retro pet lUium & Spiritum praedicatus non intellisebatur. TertulL Contr, of Q^u. XVIII. of fome (QUERIES. 175 of *Bifliop5//// to this purpofe; vvhicKthave thrown inro the Margin. I ihall only add that while you endeavor to found Chrift's Right and Title to 'ujorjhip iblely upon rhe Powers fup- pofed to be given Him after his Refurrc(3:ion, you fall much below the Antlent^/'/^^;/J• (whom yet you would be thought to exceed) and are running into the Svcinian Scheme, not very confidently with your own. Thus you Icera to be fluduating and wavering between Two, ( at the fame time verbally condemning Both ) certain in Nothing, but in oppofing the Ca- tholick Doctrine ; which when you have left, you fcarce know where to fix, or how to make your Principles hang together. To explain this, a little farther: I found zhc Son's Title to wor- lliip upon the T>ignity of his Terfon\ his creative Powers declared in Job, i. and elfe- where ; his being 0^05 from the Beginning ; and * Profcc^o admiranda mihi videtur divinarum Perfonarum in SacrofarKftifilma Triad? cUuvgimIoc, qua Unaquarque Perfona lUftinflo quail Titulo humanum imprimis genus imperio fuo divino obftrin- xerir, Tuulo illi refrondente etiam JiJIincla uniuscujufque imperii patefaciione, Vatrem Colimus iiib Titulo Crearoris hujus Univerli, qui & ab ipfa Mundi Creatione hominibus innotuerify Filium ado- ramus Tub Titulo Redeotptoris ac Serzatoris noftri, cujus idcirco divina gloria atque iniperium non nili pofl: peranum in tcrri? hu* mana? Kedemptionis ac Sttlutis negotium fuerit patefadum; Spirit turn denique S-incttim veneramur fub Tttulo Faracleti, lllumina- toris, ac Sanffificatoris noftri, cujus adco divina xMajeftas demuni port defcenfum ejus in Apoftolos primoique Chrirtnnos donorum orane genus copioliflmn largitionc iiluftrillimum, clarius emicuerit. Nirairurii turn demum Apoftoli, idque ex Chrifti mandato, Genres baptizabant in Flenam atque adHnatam Trinitatem ( ur cum Cy- friano loquar} h. e. in nomine Patris, Filii, & Spiritus San6ti. Bull, Frim, Trad, p. 42. ^ T ^ his 176 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XVIIL liis preferving, and upholding all Things (ac- cording to Colojf.x. \6,ij. and Heb.i^ ante- cedently to his 7nediatorial Kingdom : You, on the other Hand , found it intircly upon the Powers given Him after hisHumihation (alledg- ing fuch * Texts as thefe, Matt. 28. 18. Job. 5. IX, 23. ThiL 2. 10, n. P^cv. I. 5,6. Rev. 5. 8, 9, 10) as if He had no jud Claim or Title to -worjhif at all, before that Time: For, tho' you put in the equivocal Word, dijlin^^ (very ingenioufly) yet your Meaning really is, and the Tendency of your Argument requires it, that no V/orfliip, dijitnci or otho^'ii'ife, was due to Him, till He received thofe full Powers. This pretence, I fay, might come decently and properly from a Socinian, or a Sabellian, who either makes Creation Metaphorical, or inter- prets fuch Texts 2iSjoh. {. r. Col. 1. 16, 17. and the like, of the i?^^y^;/ ox IFifdom of the Father, that IS, the Father, indivellmg in the Man Chrifl: Jefus. Bat in jiou it mull: appear very improper ; and very inconfiftent with your other Principles : Wherefore I rauft: again defirc you to be more confiftent; and to keep to one conftant Scheme. Take either Ar'taJiy Sahel- lian^ or Socinian, and abide by it ; and then I may know what I have to do : But do not pretend to hold Two Schemes, at a time, ut- terly repugnant to each other. A^ 10 Scripture's feeming, in fbme places, to found Chrift's Title to Woriliip, not fo much ♦ $9i Dr. Clarke'i B^tfy^ p. ijp, 249. upon Q^u. XVIII. offome (QUERIES. 177 upon what He is in Himfelf, as upon what He has done for ns ; a very good Reafon may- be given for it, if it be well confidered by what Springs and Movements moral Agents are adluated, and that we love even God Himfelf, with reference to our Selves, * becaufe He firjt loved us. AbjlraBed Re a Jons of Edeem, Ho- nour, and Regard arc unafFeding , without a mixture of Ibmething relative to Us, which our Selves have a near concern in. The ef- fential Dignity of Chrift's Perfbn is really the Ground and Foundation of Honour, and Efteem (and confequently of IVorjhip^ the highcft Ex- preflion of Both) which ought always to bear proportion to the intrinfick Excellency of the Objed: But his Offices, relative to Us, are the moving Reafon*^, which principally afTed: our Wills ; and without which we lliould want the ftrongeft Incitement to pay that Honour and Worihip, which the ejfential Excellency of his Perlbn demands. Scripture has fufficiently ap- prized us of Both, difcovering at once both his abfolute, and relative Dignity ; that To we be- ing intruded as well concerning what He is in Himfelf, as what He is in refped to Us, might underftand what Honour j^V//?/y belongs to Him, and want no motive to pay it accordingly. Add to this, that Chrift's Office, relative to us, naturally leads us back to the antecedent Excel- lency and Perfedion of that Perfon, who vv^as able to do fo great and io aftonilliing Things f 1 Joh. 4. 19, ^'^oqn X 3 for 178 ^^DEFENSE Q^u.XlX. for us : Befides that it muft appear in the high- eft Degree probable, that no Creature whatever (fuppofing Him to have ihirable Abihties) could have been intrufted with ib great and fo en- dearing a Charge ; fuch as muft inevitably draw after it a larger iliare of our Love, Refped:, and Efteem, than feems confiftent with our Duty to God, and the Rules laid down in Scripture for our Behavior towards the Crea- tures, But enough of this : I proceed. d U E R Y XIX. Whether the T>o5ior hath not given a very partial Account of Joh. 5-. 23. founding the Honour due to the Son, on this only, that the Father hath committed all Judgment to the Son ; when the true Reafon ajfign'd by our Saviour, and illuflrated by fever al Inflances, is, that the Son doth the fame Things that the Father doth, hath the fame Tower and Authority of doing what He will} and therefore has a Title to as great Honour, Reverence, and Regard, as the Father Himfelf hath ? And it is no Ob- jeBion to this, that the Son is there faid to do nothing of Himfelf, or to have all given Him by the Father-, fince it is own- ed that the Father is the Fountain of All^ from whom the Son derives, in an ineffable manner, his Effence and Towers fo as to be one with Him. IN Qu.XIX. of fome (QUERIES. 179 IN Anfwcr to this, you fay, The only Ho- nour due to our Saviour, is plainly fup- fofed by St. John to be given Him, upon Ac* count of bis being appointed by the Father judge oftheJVorld, p. 96. This is very ftrange indeed : What ? Was there no Honour due to Him on Account of his having been 0^:^ from the Beginning? None for his having created x\\q, World ? None on Account of his being the only begotten Son, which St. John reprelents as a Circumftance of exceeding great * Glory ? Sure- ly thefe were Things great enough to demand our Tribute of Honour andReiped:; and there- fore St. John could never mean that He was to be honoured only upon i\\:xx. fugle Account, as being conftituccd Judge of all Men. This could never be the only rcafon why all Men fhould honour the Son even as They honour the Father, W^har then did St. John mean ? Or rather, what did our Blefled Lord mean , whofc Words Sz.John recites? He meant what He has laid, and what the Words literally im- port; that the Father (whofe Honour had been ilifficiently fecured under the Jewijh Dilpenfa^ tion, and could not but be io under the Chri^ ftian alio) being as much concern'd for the Ho- nour of his Son, had been pleafed to commit all Judgment to Him, for this very end and purpole, that Men might thereby (ee and know that the Son, as well as the Father, was Judge of ♦Joh. 1.14; T 4 all aSo ^DEFENSE Q^u.XIX. all the Earth, and might from thence be cou- vinc'd how rcafonable it was, and how highly it concern'd them, to pay all the lame Honour to the Son, which they had hitherto believed to belong to the Father only. And confidering how apt Mankind w^ould be to leflen the Dignity of the Son (whether out of a vein of difputing, or becaufe He had condefcended to become Man hke Themfelves) and confidering alfo that the many Notices of the "Divinity of his Per- fon might not be fufficient, with Ibme, to raife in Them that Efteem, Reverence, and Regard for Him, which They ought to have; for the more effcdually fecuring a point of this high Concernment, it pleafed the Father to leave the final Judgment of the great Day in the Hands of his Son: Men therefore might confider that this Perfon, whom they were too apt to dif- regard, was not only their Creator^ and Lord^ and God, but their Judge too, before w^hofe awful Tribunal they muft one Day appear : An awakening Confiderationjfuch as might not only convince Them of his exceeding Excellency and Super-eminent Perfecflions, but might remind them alio, how much it was their Interefl:, as well as Duty, to pay Him all that Honour. Adoration, and Service, which the Dignity and Majefty of his Perlbn demands. Let us but fuppoie the prefent Catholick Do- d:rine of the Co-equality and Co-etcrnity of the three Perlbns to be true , what more proper method can w^e imagine, to fecure to each Per- fon Q^u.XIX. of fome Q^UERIES. iSt fon the Honour due unto Him, than this ; that every Perlbn iliould be manifcfted to us under Ibme peculiar Title or Charader, and inforcc his claim of Homage by fome remarkable Difpenla- tion, fuch as may be apt to raile in Us a religious Awe and Veneration ? This is the Calc in tad:; and on this Account, chiefly, it fcems to be that the Son, rather than the Father (vvhofe per- fbnal Dignity is left liable to be queftiond) is to be Judge of all Men, that fo all Men may honour the Son^ xa^o)^ ^uimcpi roi' tcclti^. The learned Dodor * pleads that jcct^ij often ligni- fies a general Similitude only, not an €xa6{ Equality : Which is very true ; and would be pertinent, if we built our Argument on the critical Meaning of the Particle. But what we infift on, is, that our Blefled Lord, in that Chapter, draws 2i J^a?^allel between the Father and Him/elf, between the Fathers Works and his own, founding thereupon his Title to Ho- nour ; which fufficiently intimares what kclJus means; efpecially if it be confider'd that this was in anfwer to the Charge of making Him- felf f equal with God. This is what I in- timated in the Qtiery ; upon the reading where- of, you are flruck with amazement at fo evi- dent an inflance, how prejudice blinds the Minds, &c. But let me perfwade you to for- bear that way of talking, which (befidcs that it \s taking for granted the main Thing in Qiie- ftion, preluming that all the Prejudice lies on * Re/)/^, p. ?^o, t Jch. 5,18. one 28x ^DEFENSE C^u.XIX. one jfide, and all the Reafbn on the other) is really not very becoming, in this Cafe, con- fidering how many wiie, great, and good Men, how many Churches of the Saints, through a longSuccedion of Ages, you muft, at the lame time, charge with prejudice and bl'indnefs\ and that too after much canvading and careful confidering what Objcdions could be made againft Them ; to which you add nothing new, nor fo much as reprefcnt the old ones with greater Force than They have been often be- fore, 1300 Years ago. It might here be fuffi- cienr, for you, modeftly to offer yourReafons: And however convincing they may appear to you (yet confidering that to Men of equal Senfe, Learning, and Integrity, they have appeared much otherwife) to lulped: your own Judg- ment ; or, at lead, to believe that there may be Reafons, which you do not fee, for the con- trary Opinion. Well, but after your ib great AfTurance, let us hear what you have to lay. If our Lord had purpofely defign'd, in the moft expre/s and emphatical Manner, to de- clare his real Subordination and TDependence on the Father, He could not have done it more fully and clearly than He hath in this whole Chapter. Yes, fure He might : Being charged with Blafphemy , in making Himfelf equal with God, He might have exprefs'd his Abhorrence of fuch a Thought ; and have told Them that He pretended to be nothing more than a Creature of God's , fcnt upon God's Errand ; Qy.X^X. of fome QVERIES. 183 Errand; and that it was not by his O'X'^r Tower or Ho line fs, that He made the lame Man to walk, (lee Acf. 3. 12..) Such an Apology as this would have effed:ually took off all farther Suipicion, and might perhaps have well become a Creature^ when charged with Blafphemy , who had a true Refpedt for the Honour of his Creator. But, inftead of this, He goes on, a fe- condTime, to CdWHimidi Son of God, v .z^ , de- claring farther, that there was lb perfed: a Union and Intimacy between the Father and Himielf, that He was able to do any thing which the Fa- ther did J had not only the fame Right and Au- thority to work on the Sabbath, but the fame Power of giving Life to whom He pleafed, of raifing the Dead, and judging the World ; and therefore the fame Right and Title to the fame Honour and Regard : and that the Execution of thofe Powers was lodged in his Hands par- ticularly, leafl: the World ihould not be fuffici- cntly apprehenfive of his high Worth, Emi- Dcncy, and Dignity ; or ihould not honour the Son even as they honour the Father This is the obvious natural Conftrudlion of the whole Palfage : You have fome Pretences againfl: it, which have been examin'd and con- futed long ago by Hilary, Chryfoflom, Cyrils Auflin , and orher venerable Fathers of the Chriftian Church ; fo that I have litde more to do, than to repeat the Anfwers. The Jews, you lay, falfely and malicionfly charged Him with making Himfelf equal with God. So faid the 284 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XIX. the Ariaris: But what ground had either They, or You, for faying fb ? It does not appear that the Evangellft barely repeated what the Jews bad faid : But He gives the Realbns why the Jews fought to kill Him ; namely, becaule He had broke the Sabbath, and becaule He made Himfelf equal with God. So thought * Hilary ; and He is followed therein by Others, whom you may find mention'd in f Tetavitts, And this \ Socimis himfelf wms ib fenfible of, that He could not but allow that the Apofile, as well as the Jews, underftood that our BlelTed Lord had declared Himklf equal to God ; only He is forced to explain away the equality to a Senle foreign to the Context. But fuppofing that the Apoftle only repeated what the Jews had charged Him with ; how does it appear that the charge was falfe ? It is not to be denied that He had really wrought on the Sabbath, and had really called God his Father, and in a Senfe peculiar ; and why iliould not the reft of the Charge be as true as the other ? The Context and Reafon of the Thing feem very much to favor it : His fay- * Non nunc, ut in Ceteris folet, Judacorum Sermo ab his didus rcfcrtur. Expofitio potius hxc Evangelifts eft, Caufam demon- ftrantis cur Dominam interficerc vcllent. Hil Trin, 1. 7. p.pj^* f De Trin. p^ if 2. :j: Ex modo Icqucndi quo iiTus eft Evangelifta, fentiam eum omnino una cum Judaeis cenfuilTe Chriftum, verbis illis, fe lequa- lem Deo feciflc necefTe fit inteliigere Hoc ipfiim Earn quoque feniilTe, non minus qiiam fenierit Chriftum appellaile Dcum Tatretn fnum, quod ab ipfo, uno Sc eodem vcrborum Contextu, proxime dicium fucrat. Sacin, Refp* ad Vujek, p. 5-77. ing. Q^u.XlX. of fome Q^UERIES. 28^ iiig, my Father worketh hitherto, and I "-JL'ork^ niuft imply, either that He had an equal Right to do any thing his Father did ; or, that He was lb intimately united to Him, that He could not but ad in concert with Him; Which is farther confirmed by what follows, v. 19. What things foever He doth, thefe aljo doth the Son like'Ji'ife, Befides, that had this been only a ma- licious Suggcftion, a falfe Charge of the Jews^ the Evangelift, very probably, would have gi- ven Intimation of it, as we find done in other Cafes of that Nature, {Joh.i.'Li, Matt,i6.ix.) This is the Subftance oi St.ChryfoJiom's reafon- ing, in Anlwer to your firft Objedlion ; and I am the more confirmed in its being true and right, by obferving, as before faid, that Soci- nus himfelf, a Man fb much prejudic'd on the other fide, could not help falling in with the fame w^ay of Thinking, fb far, as to believe that the Apoftle and the J^^'j* both agreed in the fame Thing, viz, that our Lord did, by what He had faid, make Himfelf equal iz'ith God, in fome Senfe or other ; fuch as the Je^uvs thought to be Blajphemy, and in Confequencc whereof, they would have killed, i. e. Jioned Him. Another Exception you make from the Words, The Son can do nothing of Him^ felf: The obvious meaning of which is ; that being fo nearly and clofely related to God, as a Son is to a Father ; the Je'-Ji^s might depend upon k, that whatever He did, was both agree- able to, aad concerted with his Father; and ought 28(5 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XlX. ought to be received with the fame Reverence and Regard, as if the Father Himfelf had done it. He, as a Son, being perfcd:ly one with his Father, could do nothing o^avT^ov T(? 7{zLTi)L^ agalnft his Father, nothing aAAorexoi', nothing ^eiov, (as UoryJ'ijlom exprefieth it) Both having the Ume Nature; and harmonioufly uniting al- ways in Operation and Energy. Hence it was, that, if one ^wrought, the other mufl: work too ; if one did any thing, the other Jhould do like^Ji't/e^ if one quickned whom He would, fo ihouid the other alfo; and if one had Life in himfelf (or the Tower of raifmg the *X>ead) lo Ihould the other have too : And if the Father was primarily Judge of the World, in right of his Prerogative as Father, the Son fliould have it in the Exercift and Execution, to manifeft the Equality. Now, here is no draining nor forcing of Texts, but the hteral, obvious, natural Interpretation. But the In- terpretation, which you give, is plainly forc'd. makes the Context incoherent, and the whole PafTago inconflftent. For, be pleas'd to oblerve your Senfe of vcrfe the 19th The Son can do nothing but by Commifjlon from the Father : Why ? then follows, For what things foevef^' He doth, thefe alfo doth the Son likewifevl^ Does it follow, becaufe He can do nothing of^ Himfelf in your Senfe, that therefore He can\ do every thing which the Father does ? Where'^-"^^ is the Senfe, or Connexion ? Is He here limit^^ ing, and lefTening his own Powers, as, upon your C^u.XIX. of fome (QUERIES. 187 your Principles, He fliould have done in an- Iwer to the Charge of Blaiphcmy ? No ; but He extends them to the ucmoft; and, inftead of rerrading, goes on in the jamc drain, and fays more than He had iaid before. To make good Senle and Coherence of the PafTage, upon your Scheme, you mud fill up the Deficiency thus. The Son can do nothing but by Commiflion; and Ccmmijjlon He has, to do every thing that the Ficher doth. Which, tho' it founds harfh, and looks too famil.ar for a Creature to pre- tend, yet might make the Context coherent. However, fince the Interpretation I have be- fore given, is more natural and more obvious, argues no deficiency in the Text, makes the whole coherent, and has nothing harih or dif- agreeing it, it ought to be prefer *d. For, after all, it muft be thought very odd and ftrange for a Creature to be commijjioii d or empowered to do all Things that the Creator doth ; and to do them o^oi<, in the fame manner^ alio. I do not make any forced Conftrudion ; for lb the ioth verfe , immediately following , in- terprets it: for the Father loveth the Son, and foe'weth Him all Things that Himfelf doth. You endeavor indeed to make Ibme Ad- vantage of this very Text; alledging that this ^ower, which the Son exercised, was given Him, not by Neceflity {which is no Gift) hut by free Love. But why muft love imply free- dom? Doth not God love Himfelf? And if the Love of Himfelf be no matter of Choice, why muft 288 y^DEFENSE Q^u.XlX. mufl: the Love of his Son, his other Self, be reprcfeared orhervvife ? You are forc'd to add to the Text, to give fomc colour to your Ar- gument ; and to call it free Love, when the Text fays only, that the Father loveth. Thus far I have endeavor'd to clear up the Senfe of St. John ; and to vindicate it from your Exceptions : which are nor of fo great Weight, that you need be amazed at any Man s thinking flightly of them. Hilary well obierves that the drift and deHgn of our Savi- our's Words was to declare his Equality of Nature with the Father, and his Sonjhipy at the lame Time. * No inferior Nature could be capable of having all Things ; nor could a Son have them but as communicated. So that, in Both parts, it is diredly oppofite to fuch as either difown an Equality of Nature, or a real Difl:in(3:ion ; wherefore Hilary concludes trium- phanrly, both againft Arians and Sabellians , in Words very remarkable, which I Ihali throw into the f Margin. But you add, as a Recapitulation of what you had faid upon this Article : If therefore to be freely fent, and to a6i in the Name and by the Authority of another^ be, to a (fume an * Omnia habere fola natura poHit iiidifferens j neque Nativltas Siiquid habere pofTit, nifi datum fit, p. 928. f Conclufa funt omnia adverfum Hxretici Furoris Ingenia. TiVan eft, quia ab fe nihil poteft. Dna eft, quia quaecunque Pater facij, ^ ipie Eadcm facit. Unum funt, quia exa^quarur .n Honore, £a- denique facit non aha- Non eft Pater, quia mifTus eft, />. (^^^ He hfii nmt to the [ame ^t^rtofe^ p. io*j. ii^i. equalifj Q^u.XIX, of fome Q^UERIES. x%^ equality of Honour mid Regard with that other, by whom He was fent ; we muft for ever dejpair to nnderjland the meaning of Words, or to be able to dijlingiiijh between a delegated, and a fupreme nnderived Tower ^ (/. 97.) To which I make anfwcr : If declaring Himfelf to be the proper Son of That Other, which both the Jews and the Apojlle under- flood to be the fame with making Himfelf ^^//^/ with Him : If his claiming to Himfelf the iame Right, Power, and Authority which the Other hath ; and afferting that He is able to do w^hat- ever the Other doth ; and that the exercife of thole Powers is left to Him, for this very end and purpofe, that all Men may honour the One even as they honour the Other: If this be not alTuming an Equality of Honour and Re- gard with That Other ; we muft for ever defpair to underftand the meaning of Words, or to be able to diftinguilli between w^hat is proper to a Creature, and what to the Creator only. As to what you hint concerning a delegated Power, it is not to your purpofe ; unlets you could prove that one Perfon cannot be 2)^/x;. 1. 1. c. I. Ou vcip oiTi^lM ^%cw 'miTYi^j >^ uXXl/M 'tjoq iX,i, eCAAci ^Tsiv y^ Tift ttvr^v. Cyrill. Catcch. 6. p. 77. Ed. Ox. 'O iv icairzS T TTccri^oc \yjuv, 'Tnlazzv -z^ixi 7"ji» ynnTQ^zv^v l\^r.ccv Greg. NyflT. Contr. Eunom, /. i. />. 14. Nature ; Q^u.XlX. of fome Q^UERIES. r^t Nature; which makes the Cafe widely different from that of one Man (a diflind: znd fej^^arate Being) ading under Another. What follows, of your Anfwer to the prefenC Query, is only ringing Changes upon the old Objedlion, drawn from your imaginary Senfe of individual Subftance. And here you let your Thoughts rove, and abound much in Flight and Fancy ; conceiving of the Trinity, after the manner of Bodies, and reafoning from cor- poreal and fenfible Images. A blind Man would thus take his Notion of Colours, perhaps from his Hearing or Feeling ; and make many fan- ciful Demonllrations againfl: the T>o^rine of Vi/ion\ which would all vanifli, upon the open- ing of his Eyes. Were we as able to judge of what may, or may not be, in relation to the Modus of the divine Exigence, as we are to judge of common Matters, lying within the Sphere of our Capacity, there might then be fome force in the Objections made againfl: the Dodrine of the Trinity from natural Reafon : But fmce many Things, efpecially thofe relating Totum Pater, Totum poflTidet Filius : Unius eft quod Amborum eftj quod unus pofl'idet Singulorum eftj Domino ip(e d'ccnte: Omnia quACunque hubet Fater, mea [iint \ quia Pater in Fi;ia, Sc Filius manet in Patre. Cui, AffeElu non Conditione, Churitate nori Nece(Jitatey decor e lii bjicitur, per Quern Pater Semper honoratur. Denique inquit; Ego (y» Pater unum fumus, Unde non diminutiva, fed Religiofa, ut dixi, fubjedlione eft Filius Patri fubjedlus : cum Originaiis perpetuique Regni una Pofierfio, Co-JEterniratis Omni- potentiacque una Subftantia, una iEqualitas, una virtus Majeflatis au^^uflje, unite in luminc una digniras rctinetur, Zen. Veronenf. df, * B;{U. D. f. p. i66^ %^i yfDEFENSE Q^u.XlX. to the incomprehenfible Nature of God, may be true, tho* we cannot conceive How ; and it may be only our Ignorance, which occafions fome appearing Inconfiftencies ; we dare nor re- jed: a Dodlrine fo well fupported by Scripture and Antiquity, upon fo precarious a Founda- tion as this ; That Human ^nderjland'mg is the meafure of all Truth: Which is what all Objections of that kind, at length, refolve into. This being premis'd, let us next proceed to examine your Pretences, that I may not feem to negled: any thing you have, that but looks like reafoning. The ^tery had intimated, that the Son derives his Eflence and Power, in a man- ner ineffable. Againft which you objed: thus: But is it not Self evident that, let the man- ner of the Son's Generation or T)erivation be ever fo ineffable, if 2iny Thing was generated^ or derived, it mtifl be a diftind: individual Subjtance ? No ; but we think it fufBcient to lay, that it muft be a diftind individual Per- fon. All the dilBculty here hes in fixing and determining the Senfe of the words individual Snbjiance, Would you but pleafe to define the Terms, we fhould foon fee what we have to do. But you go on : It could not be part of the Father's Subjlance% That is abfurd: And to fay, it was the whole, is fo flagrant a Con- tradition, that I queftion whether there can be a greater in the nature and reafon of Things. Can the fame individual Subflance be derived, Q^u.XIX. of fame Q^UERIES. 193 derived, and under ived ? Or, can there be a Communication, and nothing communicated ? For, it is ftippofed, that the whole Ejfence^ or Subjlance, is communicated to the Son, and yet remains whole and uncoramunicated, in the Father ; which is evidently to be, and^ not to be, at the Jame Time, This is your reafbning, founded only on your miftake and mifapprehenfion : By Father'^ Sttbjlance , as it feems, you underftand the Father's Hypo- jiajls, or Terfon ; and are proving, very elabo- borately, that the Father never communicated his own Hyjf>oJlaJls, oiTerfon, either in whole j or in part. You iliould firfl: have iliown us what Body of Men, or what * fingle Man, ever taught that Doitrine, which you take fo much Pains to confute. Let me now propofe a difficulty much of the lame kind, and nearly in the fame Words, to you ; only to convince you that Objedions of this Nature are not peculiar to the Dod:rine of the Trinity, but affedi other points likewife, whofe Truth or Certamty you make no manner of doubt of What I meaa to inftance in, is God's omniprefence : Thar, God, the fame individual God, is every where, you'l readily allow ; and alfo that the Subjiance of God, \^ God. Now, will you pleafe to tell me, whether that divine Subjiance which fills Heaven, be the fame individual Subftance with That which filleth all Things. If it be not * Ai to your gird upon Tertulliaiii in your Notes, I refer you to Bull. D. F. p. 9/. for an Anfroer. V 3 the ^94 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XIX. the fame individual Subflance (as by your realoning it cannot) it remains only that it be ffecifically the fame; and then the Conie- quence is, that you make not one Subftance in number, but rnany ; the very thing which you charge the Dodrine of the Trinity with. But farther, the divine Subflance is in Heaven ; that is without Queftion: Now, I ask, whe- ther the Subflance which fills Heaven, ht part only of that Subflance, or the whole. If it be fart only, then God is not in Hea- ven, but a fart of God only ; and the Attri- butes belonging to the whole Subflance, cannot all be contracted into any one part^ without defrauding the other /^r/j*; and therefore there can be only part of infinite Power, part of infinite Wifdom, part of infinite Knowledge, and fo for any other Attribute. For if you fay, that the whole infinite Wifdom, Power, ^c. refiding in the whole, is common to every parr, it is (to ufe your own Words) fo flagrant a Contradi^ion, that I queftion whether there can be a greater in the nature and reafon of Things, Can the iame individual Power, Wif- dom, Sr. be communicated, and not commu- nicated.? Or, can there be a Communication and nothing communicated^ For, it is fuppofed that the whole Wifdom, Tower, &c. is com- municated, to one particular part ; and yet re- mains whole and uncommunicated in the other parts ; which is evidently to be, and not to be ^t the fame Timef If you tell me^ that part * ' '' and Qjj.XlX. of fome (QUERIES. 2.95' and whole are nor properly applied to JVifdom^ Tower, &c. I iliall tell you again, that They are (for any thing You, or I know) 2lS p'O^erly applied to the Attributes, as they are to the Subje&- ; and belong to Both, or Neither. And fince you are pleaTed to talk of farts and whole of God's Subftance, of which you know little ; give me leave to talk in the iame way, where I know as little. The Learned Dodor reprefents it as a great Solectfm to fpeak of an * Ell, or a Mile of Confcioufnefs, He may be right in his Obfervation : But the natural Coa- fequence deducible from it, is, that Thought is not compatible with an extended Subjed: : For there is nothing more unintelligible, or, ieem- ingly at lead, more repugnant, than unext ended Attributes in a Subje felf, higher and lower than it felf, to the right and to the left oi it felf, containing and contained, bound- ed and unbounded, ^c. as you can pretend to draw thofe odd furprizing Conlequences upon the ^ierifl. Would not you tell me, in an- fwer, that I mifinterpreted your Senfe of indi- *vidual, and took advantage of an ambiguous ExprefTion? Let the fame Anfwer ferve for Us; and you may hereafter fpare your Readers the diverfion of all that unmanly trifling with an equivocal Word. But enough of this Matter, I might have expeded of you, in your Reply to this Qiiery, one Text or two to difprove the Son's Eternity, and Confubjiantiality, and to fupply the Deficiency of the Doctor's Trea- tife: But fince you have not thought fit to favor me with any, I muft ftill believe that the Doitor's 3 CO Texts, tho* very wide of the pur- pofe, are all we are to cxped: ; being defign'd, inftead of real Proof, to carry fbme Show and Appearance of it, that they may feem to make up in Number, what they want in Weight. All that the learned Docftor proves by his 300 Texts, or more, is only that the Son is Subordinate to the Father: Whether as a Son, or as a Crea- ture, appears not. However, the tacite Con- clufion which the Dodor draws from it, and iafinuates carefully to his Reader, is, that the Soa 30© ^DEFENSE C^u.XX. Son is not ftridly and ejfentially God ; but a Creature only. This Inference we deny ut- terly ; alledging thar a Subordination may be, and may be underftood, between two Perfbns, without the Suppofition of any Inferiority of Nature : But all the Anfvver we can get to this is, that * Nature and Ejfence are oh/cure Me- tafhyfical Notions (which is neither true, nor to the purpofe, nor confiftently pleaded by one who builds fb much upon Self-exiftence^ a Metaphyseal Term, the word Equivocal^ and the Notion fufficiently obfetire.) And thus, as foon as the learned Dodor comes up to the pinch of theQuefl:ion,not being willing to own the Force of what is urged, He very wifely dif fembles it, and goes off in a mifl: of Words. I cannot but take notice, upon this occafion, of your charging us frequently, in an invidious Manner, with the ufe we make of Metaphy- fical Terms. I know no reafon you have for it, except it be to anticipate the Charge, as being confcious to your felves how notorioufly you offend in this kind. Any Man, that is acquaint- ed with the Hiftory of Arianijm, knows that its main Strength lay in Logical and Metafby- fical Subtilties. The Faith of the Church was at firfl, and might be ftill, a plain, eafy, fimple Thing ; did not its Adverlaries endeavor to per- plex and puzzle it with Thilojljfhical Niceties, and minute Inquiries into the Modus of what they cannot comprehend. The firfl: Chriftians ♦ Reply, p. 17. 19. XI. cafily Q^u.XX. of fome QUERIES. 301 cafily believed that Father, Son, and Holy-Ghoft^ into whom They were baptized, and whom They worjl/ifd, were equally divine ; without troubhng themfclves about the manner of it, or the reconcihng it with their BeHef in one God, As Men generally believe that God fore-knovjs every thing, and that Man notwithftanding is a free Agent, (fcarce one perhaps in a Thoufand concerning Himfelf how to reconcile thefe two Pofitions, or being at all apprehenfive of any difficulty in it) fo, probably, the plain honeft Chriftians believed every Perlbn to be God, and all but one God ; and troubled not their Heads with any nice Speculations about the Modus of it. This feems to have been the artlefs Sim- phcity of the primitive Chriftians, till prying and pretending Men came to ftart Difficulties, and raife Scruples, and make Difturbance ; and then it was necefTary to guard the Faith of the Church againft fuch Cavils and Impertinencies as began to threaten it. Thilofofhj and Meta- fhy/icks were called in to it's Affiftance ; but not till Heretic ks had fliown the way, and made it in a manner neceffary for the Catho* licks to encounter Them with their own Wea- pons. Some new Terms, and particular Ex- plications came in by this means ; that fuch as had a mind to Corrupt or Deftroy the Faith, might be defeated in their Purpoies. It was needlefs to fay that Generation was without "Divijion, while no Body fufpecSted or thought of any T)ivifion in the Cafe : But after Here^ ticks sot yf D E F E N S E Qu,XX. ticks had invidioufly reprefenred the CathoUcks as afTcrting a *DiviJion, it was high time for the Catbolicks to refcnt the Injury , and to deny the Charge. There was no occafion for the mentioning of Three Hypoftafes, till fuch as TraxeaSy Noetus, and Sabellius, had pre- tended to make, one Hypoftafis, an Article of Faith ; drawing many very Novel, and dangerous Confcquences from their prime Pofition. The ojjLoimov it felf might have been fpared, at lead, out of the Creeds, had not a fraudulent abufe of good words brought Matters to that pals, that the Catholtck Faith was in danger of be- ing loft, even under Catholick Language. To re- turn to our Point : There would be no occafion now for diftinguifliing between Subordination of Order and of Nature, were it not manifeft how much the Catholick Faith may be endan- gered by the endeavors of Some, to flip one up- on us for the other. Such as know any thing of fair Controverfy, may juftly exped: of you, that you fupport your Caufe, not by repeating and inculcating the word Subordinate (as if there was a charm in Syllables, or Men were to be led away by Sounds) but by prov- ing, in a rational manner, that all Subordina- tion implies fuch an Inferiority as you contend for. If this can be done, the DodJor^s 300^ Texts (which are very good Texts, and have undoubtedly an excellent meaning) may appear alfo to be pertinent to the Gaufe in Hand, QUER^ Qu.XXI. of fome (QUERIES. 305 Q^ u E R Y XXL Whether He be not forc'd to fupply his v:ant of Scripture-proof by z'e?y ftraind and re- mote Inferences, and very uncertain Rea- fonings from the Nature of a Thing, con- fejfedly, obfcure and above Comprehenfion ; and yet not 7nore fo than God's Eremiry, Ubiquity, Prefcience, or other Attributes^ isjhich yet vue are obliged to acknovuledge for certain Truths ? TO the former part of the Query, ycu anfjjer direEily in the Negative. To which I rejoin, that I ftill maintain the Ajfr- mative, and can readily make it good. The Doctor's infinuating from the 300 Texts (which ftile the Father G^^abfolutely, or the one God) that the Son is not ftridly and ejfentially God, not one God with the Father, is a ftrain'd and remote Inference of his ovun-, not warranted by Scripture, nor countenanced by Cathohck Anti- quity ; but Contradidory to Both. Befides this, I mud obferve to you, that the main Strength of the Dodor's Caufe hes, firfl:, in his giving ei- ther a * Sabellian, or Tritheifiick turn (admit- ting f no Mediu7n) to the Catholick Doctrine ; and then charging it with Confu/lon of T^erfons^ * See Injlames, Script, Dof^r. p. 99. 1 01. 293. 416. 45f. Reply, p. 35-38.5-1.53-95- >i'- iScript.Doar.p.8$. iji,4i;'.43o.45j.437.44i.447.4f5-.4(Jj', Toly- 304 A D E F E N S E Q^u.XXL Tolytheifm, Non-fenfe, or Contradi6lion, Take away That, to which his conftant reibrt \^^ whenever He comes to the pinch of the Que- ftion, and there will be little left confiderable. He lho\^'S his Reader 7>/V/;^//^, and He fhows Him .abellianifin (keeping the Catholick Do- drino, which is Neither, out of fight) and then recommends ^r/^;///;^ (difguis'd) to Him, as the bell of the Three. Now, fince the Catho- lick Dodtrinc has been generally thought diffe- rent from any of the Three, and more follow- ed than all Hie reft put together, it ought to have been fairly preicnted, in company with the other; that fo the Reader, having all the' Four before Him, might be the more able to pais a right Judgment of Them. You will fre- quently find the learned Dodor combating the Catholick Faith under the difguile of Sabelli- antfm, as if there was no Difference between them: Or if it be at all diftinguiflvd from Sa- heUtanifm, it immediately commences TVi- thelfm\ and a plurality oi Co-ordinate Perfbns is inevitable with the learned Dodor: This is the Sum of his Performance. Scripture, in- deed, is brought in, and Fathers too, which is ftill more iiarprizing: But the whole, in a manner, is this one Syllogtfm, If the Son be Confiibjiantial with God the Father, He muft be either individtially or fpe- cifically (b: But the former is Sahellianifm^ the latter Tritheijm , Both abfurd: There- fore, i§c. The Q_u.XXI. of fome Q^UERIES. ^os The learned Dodtor very well knows, how eafy it would be to march this Syllogtfin, or Sophi/m, with others, of the like kind, a^ainft Omniprefence, Eternity, Trcfcience, and even Self-exijience : which, in reverence to theSub- jedt, and for prudential Reafons, T forbear; iorry to find the Cauie put upon fuch a way of reafbning, as tends to undermine fomerhing more than the Dodrine of the Trinity. But I proceed. To give the better Colour to his Charge of Trithetjin , the Dodor * every where takes it for granted (which was the only way, when it could not be proved) that God the Son cannot be really diftind, and ftridly divine too, unlels He be Coordinate, in all Relpcds, with the Father ; which would be contrary to the Suppofition of his being a Son, and fecond Perfon. Two Co-ordinate V^rCons, icfeems, They ,muit be; or elfe one of them muft inevitably be a Creature: This is plainly his meaning, however ftudioufly He avoids the word Crea- ture ; chufing rather to infuiuate covertly, what is too grofs to appear in broad Terras. The whole, you fee, terminates in a Thilofophical Qiieftion: An i nbat occafion have we for Scripture, or Fathers (except \z be to amule our Readers) if 'Pkilofopby can ib eafily end the Difpute ? For it is very certain that neither Scripture nor Fathers can add force to, if concurring ; nor, if reclaiming, be able to Hand f Script. Doilr. p. 8^- 41 5". 430.437,4^1 447. 47j'.45f. X againft, 3o6 .^ D E F E N S E Q^u.XXJ^. againft, clear and evident Demonll ration. But ^emonjiration is the thing wanting : As to Trefiim^ttons, and Co7ije^ures, we arc in no Pain about them. I ihall have a farther oc- cafion to confider the Charge of Trithelfm hereafter; and therefore, difmiffing it for the prefent, fliall return to the Bufinefi of the To 'the latter^l^' fef ¥y&i^4nlf^er:^h3t God's Attributes are Jo far from being abov,^ Comprehenfion, that they are all frilly de- monflrable by Reafon. You was ienfible this was wide ; and therefore very jufily corredted it, in the Words immediately following. But I am willing to fiifpofe (How could you make any doubt of it ? ) That the Author meant y that the Manner of their Exiftence in the divine Nature, is above Comprehenfion\ and Jo indeed it is. Very well ; and yet you h^ lieve the reality of thofe Attributes, Why then fo unequal and partial, with refped: to the Trinity, the cafe being exadtly the fame' f Why may not the Thing be true, though the Manner, or Modus of it, be ^bove Coi^- prehenfion? You add, Tho^ the manner of the Son's "Derivation is above Comprehenjion^ yet his real Subordination is JirOfly demon- Jirable, p. 99. "'^ Tantamne Rem tam negligent er ! '*^^ Here the Argument was, in a manner, brdS^fit to a Head ; and the Fate of the Controverly depended on this Article. Here you had a fair Oppor- tj , 'A ,1 ■^ ,'7 .fT f Q_u.XXI. (P/ySwf Q_UfiRIES. 307 Opportunity given you oi laying on your Charge of Conrradidions, if you had any you could depend on ; and of clearing God's Attri- butes (particularly, the Three mention'd) from being liable to the fame, or the like Charge. But, inftead of this, you walk calmly off with one Sentence; in which, to be plain with you, it will be hard to find either Weight, or Per- tinency. If you mean, by real Subordination, the Subordination of a Creature to God ; or of one Perlbn inferior in Nature to another of a higher, fuperior, or more perfect Nature ; jp^is not demonjtrable from Scriptttre \ nor can it, any way, be proved: If you mean any thing elie, it is not pertinent. , -\\You are lb kind as to allow the Manner of jhe Sons derivation, or Generation, to be above Comprehen/iou, The Eunomtans, your PredecefTors in this Controverfy , * thought (and They thought right) that, in order to fuo- port their Caufe. it would be neceflary to af- firm the Nature of God to be Com^rehenjible, or not above Human Comprehenfion ; and therefore it is that \Thilofiorgius cenfures Eu- febius for clofing in with the contrary Opi- nio^.. You are more modeft; They more con- filtent : For, indeed, this ControveriV, manag'd upon the Foot of meer Reafon, terminates at length in that fingle Queftion, whether the * Epiph. Hxrcf. 7<5. p. 916. Socrat. E. H. 1. 4. c. 7. p. i-jC. 'i'hcodorit. Hsrer. Fab. 1. 4. c. 3. Cyjrill. Alex. Theiaur. p. 260. Ed. Parif. yyUl c t Philoflorg. lib, I. p. 468. Ed. ValeC X 2i Ejfence 5„8 ^D^'fiNi^^J^Sjc? EJfence of God be above Co?n^refjei\fion, or no. The Catholicks ftood up for the j^ffirmative, the wifer , bur bolder Arlans mainrain'd the Negative: And this, is what, if you undcr- ftand your own Principles, and will be at the Pains ro trace Them to the lafl refuk, youl be obliged to take Shelter in, or to give up your Caufe, fo far as concerns all Arguments drawn from the Nature and Reafon of the Thing. Some of our Englifli Socinians have expreis'd Themfelves as roundly, upon this Head, as any of the Antient -^r/^/zj", or Eunomians -, declaring the divine Nature to be no more my- fierloiis than that of his Creatures. Such Af- fertions are fliocking; but there is a necefiity for them, if Ibme Men will be confiftent, and ingenuous enough to fpcak out. They would not advance luch bold Paradoxes, if They we;;c not forc'd to it. Beftjte I leave this^^/^ry, it will be proper to acquaint our Readers what we mean by be- lieving Myjlertes, For I find that this is a Matter which is apt to give great Offence, and to occafion many fad and tragical Complaints. * Dr. JVhitby is one of the moft confiderable Men that I have obferved giving into that po- pular way ofReafoning, which had been for- merly left (as it ought to be ftill) to Writers' of a lower Clafs. He is very much difturbed that any thing fliould be propofed as an Article of Faith, which is not to be nnderJJood: Apd • Dif^uif. Modeft. Praef. p, 19. ebferves, C^u.XXL of fome (QUERIES. 309 obferves, that no Man in his fobcr Senfes can give his aflent to what He Jinde^^Jiands not; meaning,, underftands not at all. He is certain- ly very right, I do not fay pertinent, in the Remark : And I may venture to add, that no Man, whether fiber, or otherwife, can do it. For , undoubtedly , where there is no Idea , there can be no AfTent; becauie ajfenttng to nothing, is the very fame with not ajfenting. Thus tar, we are perfed:ly agreed. But for the clearing up of this Matter, I iliall endeavor to reduce what relates to it, to the following Particulars, as fo many diftind; Cafes. li uu •3 I. Let tfee^'frrfl: Cafe be, where the Terms of a Propoficion, Subjed: and Predicate (or either of Them; are not at all underftood by the Per- Ibn to whom it is given. For inftance; the Words, Mene mene Tekel Upharjin, carried no Idea at all with them, till the Prophet had interpreted them ; before which King Beljhaz^ z,ar could give no Aflent to them. The fame is the cafe of any Propofition given in an un- known Language, or in fuch words, of a knowa ^Language, as a Perfon underftands not. Only, ifwould have it obferv'd, that, in iuch a Cafe, a Man neither admits nor rejcd:s the Tropoji- s tton ; becaufe to Him it is no Tropofition, but meerly Sounds or Syllables. ^^^' \i.. A fecond Cafe is, when the Propofition 15 r given in a Language well underftood, and in ' Words which ordinarily convey Ideas to the X 3 Mind; BiQ ji D L I E N S E Q_u.XXL. Mind; but Words fo put together, in that In-, ftance, as to furnifh us with no certain and de- terminate Meaning. A late Anonymous Writer, lias hit upon a very proper Example of this very Cafe. ^ JVoman ought to have Tower I on her Head, becattfe of the Angels, The' Words, JVoman^ Tower, Head, Angels, are all plain Words, and carry with Them obvious familiar Ideas, And yet a Man may have no Idea of what is alTerted in that Proportion ; and therefore can give no affent to it, more than this; that it is true in fomeSenfe or other, or that fomething fliould be believed, if He underftood what : which is not aflenting to that Propofition, but to Another; namely, that^ whatever Scripture ajferts, is true. The afore-' laid Author oblerves, very flirowdly, that hay- ing no certain Ideas of the Terras of the Tra^^ fojition, \x is to Him a Myflery, I may add^^ that the 5P^m;/^;/ry of his Obfervation is ano- ther fuch Myjiery ; and the Juftice and Equity of his drawing a Parallel between This, and xkit Myfteries of Chriftianity, properly fb call-; ed, mud be a MyJlery to as many as cannot perceive either the iJ^;/^ or the Ingenuity oi doing it. But, ''^^^ ' ,.t.,a V ;^. Another Cafe may be, when the Teftnis of ii Propofition are underftood, but are fb con- nefled or divided, as to make a Propofition jnanifeftly repugnant. A Triangle is a Square. A Globe is not rounds or phe like. Such Pro- pofitions we rejedj pot becaufe we do not un- / . ■ . derftan4 clti.XXt o/fm/ QVERIES, btx'; derftand TJiem, but becaufe we do-,' and under-' ftand Them to be Falfe. Sometimes indeed a Contradidion lies conceal'd under the Words in is couched in, till it be rciblved into plainer. Forlnftance: This Propofition, The Exijience of a Firjt-Caufc is demo njlr able, a priori ; As it lies under thefe Terms, it feems reducible to Cafe che Second ; as being Sound without Senfe. But refolve it into This; There is aCaufe prior to the Firjl\ and then the * Repugnancy ap- pears. So again : NeceJJlty of Exijience is antecedently {in order of Nature^ the Cmife or Ground of that Exijience. Thefe are only lo many Syllables. But put it thus: A pro- perty iV^^in order of Nature, antecedent to^ aM the Ground and Caufe of the SubjeEt i^hich fupports it ; and the Contradi^ion is manifeft. Once more : Neceffity abfolute and antecedent {in order of Nature) to the Ex- ijience of the Firft- Caufe, muji operate every lohere alike. This Propofition feems to fall under Cafe the Second. But let it be refolved into plainer Words ; and then it will appear that this is the proper place for it. '^ Z '^\. 4. A fourth Cafe is, when the Terms of the Propofition carry Ideas with them, Jeemingly^ but not plainly repugnant. For example : God Certainly foreknows Events depending on Ua- * AAA' oval i7ncp)ifjV[ XoLVj^cAViryJi r]^ ^^7jJi;x7:x.M' uvrtj yet^ djc 'S!f?- Cl^. Alex, Srrom. p. 6p6. *' X 4. certain 3IX A D E F E N S E C^u.XXI. certain Cau/es. The omniprefent Subflance is mot extended, Propofuions of this kind may be. and are aflented to; becaule there may be a greater Appearance of Repugnancy on the oppofite Side of the Queftion; or, be- caule there is not reafon fufficient for lufpend- ing Adent. *:^JUKibn!h oa ti ■yx\\)i^\\'^\\\\ jud 5. A fifth Cafe' is j' when a PropofitiSn is form'd in general Terms, and reaches not to fninuie Particulars. The pure in Heart jh all fee God. The Phrafe of Jeemg Cod, conveys Ibme Idea^ but getter al only ; not particular, precife, or determinate. At God's right Hand are "Plea/ures for evermore. God's right Hand, and T^leajures, we have only general confufe Ideas of; yet Ideas \vq liave; and we alTenr as far as our Ideas reach. Having no more than a genera! confufe Perception, our Faith in fuch Points can riie no higher, or reach no fir- ^her; nor can more be expcded of us. ' 6. A fixthCafe is, when the Terms of a Pro- pofition convey Ideas ^ but Ideas of pure hi- tellcdi \ ixxoki zs, Imagination can lay no hold of. Philolophers have illuftrated this by the Inftances of a Chiliagon and a Triangle, We ^mderjiand what is meant by a Figure of a Thoujand SxdQS, as clearly, as we do what is meant by one of Three only : But we imaging one more diftindly than the other. This In- flance belongs more properly to dijiin^i and ^Qnfufe Imagination, than to the purpofe it is brought for. Ideas of Numbers, in the Ab- ftraa, Q^u.XXI. of /omeQlJ ERIE S, 313 ftrad-^ .\are properly I/^eas of pire Intelle^i : vAndlb are, or iliould be, our Ideas of our own Souls, of Angels, of God: We may tinderftand leveral Things of them; h\xt Imagination has very little to do in fuch Matters. However, our not being able to imagine, provided we do but underftand, is no hindrance to our AfTenr, in Propofuions of this kind. ^ ' 7. The laft and cafieft Cafe is, when the WTerms convey full and ftrong Ideas to the ''Un- der ft anding ^vidi Imagination alio. For inftance: The Man Chrift Jefiis ate, drank, Jlep, was V crucified, died, and was buried, 8cc. Here, all is eafy, clear, and plain, even to Thofc . who love not to think upon the Stretch, or to be under any pain in Aflenting. ni HNow for the Application of the foregoing Particulars to the point in Hand. Thole At- tides of Faith, which the Church has called Myfteries, belong not to Cafe the firft or fe- cond, wherein no AfTent can be given : Or if They do. They are no Articles of Faith, but io many Sounds or Syliabies. It is to be hoped, ; They come not under Cafe the third: For r />/^//i Contradidions are certainly noMyfteries, 2 any more than flain Truths; as is juftly ob- ^ ierved by the learned * Dr. Clarke. For the liame reaibn, They fall not under Cafe the fe- hm^nth, where every thing \s iuppoled diftind, clear, and particular as caix be dcfired, V/hat- ever JI4 -^DEFENSE C^u.XX^- ever is plainly reducible to any of tht fou?^^" Cafes now menrion'd, is either no Matter t>f Faith ar all, or no Myftery. '^iier^ remaitf ' three Cafes ; where the Ideas are either feecn- ingly repugnant i or luch as reach not to TaT^^-'' ticulars, or fuch as Imagination has no cori-^ cern with. AfTent may be given in all theftr^ Cafes, as hath been already obferved ; and fo?^ pofTibly, here we may find Articles of Fait h^"^ And, if fbmeGenclemen will give us leave, aftef^ we have thus explain'd what we mean by tht"' Term, we will call fuch Articles Myjteries'r^ For Example. ^'^ The Belief of 7"/6r^^ Terfons every one fing-^ ly God, and All together 07ie God, feems to fall under Cafe the fourth : The Ideas are feem- ' ingly, not really repugnant. We know what we mean, in faying every one, as clearly as if we faid, any one, is God\ a Perfon having fuch and fuch effential Perfedions. We fee not per- ' fedly how this is reconciled with the Belief of one God, as we fee not how Trefcience is re- conciled with future Contingents, Yet we be- lieve Both, not doubting but that there fe^'U^'^ Connexion of the Ideas, tho' our Faculties readP^ not up to \i, ^^ Omnifrefence, I think, is another Myfierft and falls chiefly under Cafe \ht fifth. We hav&^' a general confufe Idea of it, and mean fome-^ thing by it. Tho; particular manner how it is^/ we have no notion of; and therefore are not^" obliged to believe any pa,rticular Modus, Fix upon Q^u.XXi of fame QV ERIE S. 3if upon this or that, there arc appearing Repug- nancies and Inconfiftencies ; and fo far, this is reducible to Cafe the fourth, as well ^^ fifth. The Incarnation of the Son of God is ano- ther Myfiery, and comes under Cafe i\\Q fourth and fifth. There are forae feemmg, not real Repugnancies ; and the Ideas we have of ic are general and confufe, not farticnlar nor fpecial. Such as our Ideas are, Jiich mufl: our Faith be; and we cannot believe farther than we conceive ; for Believing is Conceiving \ con*, ftifely, \{ Ideas are confufe\ generally, \i gene* ral ; difrinEily and adequately^ if diflinci and adequate. The Generation of the Son of God i5 ano- , ther Myftery. Ideas we have of it, and know3 what we mean by it. But being Spiritual^ Imagination can lay no hold of them ; being general and confufe, we cannot reach to T^ar- ticulars ; and being fecmingly repugnant, wc,^ cannot make out the entire Connexion. Equa*' lity of Nature (which is part of the Notion) is a general Idea, and well underftood ; Re* ference to a Head or Fountain, is general too, but more confufe, and befides, figura- tive ; Eternul Reference very confufe, as the Idea of Eternity necefTarily muft be ; Infefa- rability, is general, obfcure, negative, and we know but very imperfe(9:Iy what the Union of Spiritual Things means, Neverrhelefs we ////- derftand enough (tho' we can imagine little) 10 make it properly an Affick of Belief; and no 3i6 A D E F E N 5 E (^XXI, DO Man can reaipnably pretend to rejed it, ^s having no Meaning, ox cdLirym^pQ Idea at all with it. We afTent as far as om Ideas reach, for we can do no more : We beheve in I^art, what is revealed in I>art ; our Faith keeping paqe with our Ideas, and ending where They end/ . . -.-,' "'"■■ ^' '^, The Simplicity of Gd^ is anoiKer ^^^/Zr^, of which we have Ibme, but a very imperfedt, general, and obfcure Idea. It may fall under Cafe iht fifth and fixth. Scripture fays httlc of it : We have took it chiefly from Metaphy- J^cksy w^hich are fliort and defed:ive. When we come to inquire, whether all extenfion,"iiX all plurality, diverfty, Compofition of SuJ?- Jtance and Accident, and the hke, be confiftenc with it, then it is that we difcover how cori- fnfe and inadequate our Ideas are. And hence it is, that, while all Parties admit the divine Simplicity, in the general, yet when they come to be prefs'd with it in difpute, they often give different accounts of it ; and eafily fb explain and (late the Notion, as to make it fuit with their particular Schemes. To this Head belongs that perplexing Quefcion (befet with Difficulties on all Sides) whether the divine Subftance be extended or no. And if Extenfion be admit- ted, ingenious thoughtful Men will divide again, upon another Queftion, whether infinite or no: Some thinking it very abfurd for any Attribute of God, not to ht infinite \ others rhinking'.it 2io leis abfurd to admit any infinite Ex^tenfion, Nam- (^u.XXI. of fome (QUERIES. \tr 'Number, or the like, at all. They that luppofc the divine Subftance extended, left they Ihould be obhg'd to conceive it as z. J^oint only; and left they fliould admit that any thing can ati ^here tt is not^ are, when prefs'd with Diffi- culties about Aliquot Tarts, forced to admit that any part of That Subftance, how great fo- cver, or of whatever Dimenfions, muft be con- ceived only as a point, in proportion to the ^^hole: From whence it follows, that, unlefs ^^^ World be infinite, all that ABs (of that .infinite Subftance) in xkitJVorld, is but 2, point % 'and fo the whole Subftance, except that point, either adts not at all in the fVorld^^.^qx ads ^where it is not. But to proceed: Cm * Self-exijlence is another Myfterj, of which ^we know little: And the learned are hardly ^agr^ied whether it be a negative or pofitive ^'^i' Yet every body believes it in the grols, jonfufely and nndeterminately. It is manifeft, ,;on one hand, that iht firfi Caufe has noCauJe-^ 'Ineither it felf (much lefs any property of it ielf ) ^nor any thing elfe : And yet it may feem very "wonderful how any thing iliould exift without a Reafon a priori:, that is, without a C^///? for it. To name no more : Eternity it Ielf is the greateft Myfiery of all. An Eternity pafi, is a Thought which puzzles all our Philofophy ; and is too hard for the iliarpeft Wits to re- concile. The Ntmc fians of the Schools (though older than the Schools) has been ex- ploded ; and yet SucceJJion carries with it in- fuperable 3i8 yfj^Wi^WSE W"^- fupcrable Difficulties." '"There is nctlimg pecuf- liar ro the Dodrine of the Trinity, any thiiig near lb perplexing as Eteritity is: And yet the Gentlemen, wKo are for difcarding Alyjterie^ are forc'd to beh'eve it. I know no Remedy for theie Things, but an humble Mind ; a juft Senfe of our Ignorance in many Things, and of our imperfed Knowledge in all. Now to re- turn ro the learned Dr Whitby ^1^ After a view of the Premifes, it mighto'e proper to ask Him, whether He diflikes the Catholick Dodrine of the Holy Trinity, as perceiving ContradiEiions in it. If this be the Cafe, however concerned I am for that Do- drine (believing it ro be true) I will venture to fay, it would be an acceptable Piece of Service^ if He could any way help others to perceive^ them too. Truth, certain Truth, will be at'^ ways welcome, in any Caufe, and from any Hand, to all fober and confiderate Men. Buc if this could be done. He fliould not then com- plain that He tmderftands not the Do(3:rine> but that -He underftands (i. e. 4ifii^i£ih per^ ceives) it to be Falfe. \?^^-^ « ''■ "^"'^ If He means that He has no Idea at all q| the Myftery, not fo much as a general, con- fufe, or inadequate Apprehenfion of it ; that muft be a miftake : as may appear from what, hath been before obferved. Befides that hav;: ing once, or oftner, wrote for it; (tho' He has fince laboured very much to perplex, puz- zle, and dilparage it) every candid Man muft believe- Q^u.XXI. af fome Q^UERIES. 319 believe that He underftood, in (brae meafurc , ibrmerly, what He ingaged in the Proof of. y If the Cafe be that He does not throughly, fully, and adequately comprehend it, and there- fore demurs to it; then it iliould be confidered, that the refult of all is this only ; that He will not admit ib far as He may underftand, unleft He may have the privilege to underftand fbmerhing more : Which whether it be not too familiar from a Creature towards his Cre^itor^ and articling more ftridly with Almighty God fhan becomes Us, let any wife Man judge. If, laftly, it be pretended that it is a Hitman^ not 2.T)ivim Dodrrine, which He is pleafed to quarrel with'; then let Him cenfure it as Hu- man and ^Onfcriptural only; and not as un- mtelltgtbie^ and impojjlble to be ajfented to ; and then we may bring the Caufe to a fhorc IfTue by inquiring, whether the Dodrine be Scriptural, or no. Let Things be called by their right Names, and fet in their true and proper Light; that Truth may not be {mother'd, nor any Dodrine (efpecially fo Antient and fo Important a Dodrine) condemn'd, before we know why. So much we owe to the Church of Chrift, which receives, this Faith ; to the Blef- 'fed Saints and Martyrs, many Centuries upwards, Avho lived and died in it; to Truth, to God, and To our Selves, as to lee that it be fairly and im- partially examined ; that proving all Things^ as we ought to do, in Sincerity and Singlenefs of Heart , we may, at length , be both wile I ^. , enough 320 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXI. enough to know, and fuitably di(pofed to hold faji that which is good. It is excellently reoiark'd by the ingenious Mr. Emlyn, in the Appendix to his * Narra* five: '• That the Holy Scriptures require no *' accurate Philoiophical Notions of God*s Eter- *' nity , Omniprefence ^ and Immenfity, 8cc. •* They are content to give us popular, eafyac- •' counts of thefe Matters They trouble •' nor Men with the Niceties of eternal Sue- •' cejjhns, or an eternal to nj^y without Sue- •' cejjiou:, nor with infinite Spaces, or of God*s •' being prefent in part, or in whole \ and the " like metaphyfical Difficulties. Our Reli- •' gion impoles no fuch Difficulties on us, of *' believing with the underftanding, what we *' cannot fb much as perceive by it; it only •' requires us to believe what it reveals to ** us, i.e. to our Underjianding and Appre- " henfion. All this is very rightly and judicioufly ob- ferved. God's Eternity and Omniprefence \yc have only general and confafe Ideas of; Scri- pture has not revealed to us the particular mO' dus, or minute Circumftances of Either; and we are not obliged to believe, any other- wile than as we apprehend ( /. e. confufely and inadequately) nor indeed is it poffible. The fame is the Cale of three Perfons, every one truly Qody and ail but one God; fb far evident from Scripture, and apprehended, in the ge- • Pag. (5i. neral (iu.XXI. of fome Q^UERIE^. ^\i neral, as fully and clearly (perhaps more fb) a^ Eternity , Omniprefence , or the like. But the particular modus. How the Three are One:, and the 7ninute Circumftances of their Unioii and T>iJim6iton, are as much a fccret to us, as how God forefees future Contingents , or is prclcnt in all places at once. Many have been prying ani inqutfitive into this Mat- ter, hoping to lUiow (bmething more parti- cularly of it, till they have come to doubt even of the Thing it lelf, and lb have fallen into Herejy : And Catholich have fbmc- times exceeded, in this way, endeavoring to explain beyond ihtu Ideas \ which is really no- thing elfe but multiplying Words. The No- tion is foon ftated, and lies in a little Compaft, All that Words are good for, after, is only to fix and prefcrve that Notion, which is not im- provable ( without a new Revelation ) by any new Idea ; but may be obfcured and ftifled iri a multitude of Words. The mod ufeful words, for fixing the Notion of T)ijlin^ion, are Ter^ fon, Hypojiajls, Snbfiftence, and the like : For the 'Divinity of each Perfon, ofioti(nc^y kymirog^ eternal, uncreated, immutable, &c. For their ^nion, 'J2e^;^(i)§>icr.^5 interior Generation, Trc^ cejjion , or the like. The deffgn of theie Terms is not to enlarge our Views, or to lidd any thing to our Stock of Ideas ; but to iecure the plain fundamental Truth , that Father , Sou, and Holy Ghojl are all ftridly divine and uncreated'^ and yet are not three Gods, but Y one 31X ^DEFENSE Qy.XXI. one God. He that believes this (Imply, and in the general, as laid down in Scripture, be- lieves enough ; and need never trouble his Head with nice Queftions, whether the Union of three Perfons iliould be call'd individual or Jpeci- Jick ; whether Terfon and Being are reciprocal Terms ,- whether every Perlbn may be properly faid to h<^Selfexijient\ ho^j^hree Perlbns can be ail in the fame Tlace-.^'^czhev all Terfe- 6lion might not as well have been confin'd \oone ^erfon only ; or whether One might not have been as good as Three, and the like. Theft are difficiles nitg^^ moftly, verbal, or vain In- quiries; and do not concern r^/^/y*?^/:^ Chriftians, any farther than to be upon their Guard, that they be not impofcd on by thefe StibtiltieSy invented to puzzle and perplex a plain Scri- ftnre'Truth ^ which is eafily perceived and underjlood in the general^ that is, as far as required to be believed. Minute Particulars about the modus, may be left to the '\Difptiters of this World, as a Trial of their good Senley their Piety, Modelly, and Humility. a.^ We do not take it well to be reproach'd, as running too far into Metaphyfical Subtilties, by Men whole peculiar Talent it is, to play their Metaphyfcks, (that is, their Trefumptions about the Nature of aThing whereof they know little) againft Scripture and Antiquity, the beft Guides in thofe Searches. If the Catholicks have fometimes gone farther than was neceflary, iu particular Explications, it iliould be remem- bered Q^u.XXI. of fome Q^UERIES. 3I3 ber'd for whofe fake They did ir ; and that it was chiefly with a view to latisfy fiich as would not be contented with the general Truth laid down in Scripture. I iliall Ihow , by an Inftance or two, how that Matter is. The 'sfef;^ig>]7i? and interior Generation, are two Specialities tanghc by the Catholicks , and heavily complained of by your Friend * Dr. Whitby, as nnfcriptnral Definitions. Now, thefe are but Appendages to our Prime (and as we think Scriptural) Pofitions, and we are no farther concern'd for Them, than as they are conceived to hang upon the other; fo that your quarrel with us for thele, is really finding fault with our leading and fundamental Dodrine of One God in ThreeT^erfons. But to fliow you, how unequal you are in cenfuring us io^ttnfcriptural Terms, obferve the Courfe and Method of dilpute which draws us firft into it. You argue, fuppofe, that the Son cannot be God, in the ftrid: Seufe, without making Two Gods : We anfwer, that Father and Son, by a rnofl intimate and in- effable Union of SttbJIance, Will, Tower, Tre* fence. Operation, Sec. (which we call ^^^x^" g'^^Ti^) may be one God. You argue again, that if the Son be a Son, in our Senfe, there muft be a divifion and fep urate Exiftence : We fay. No ; alledging that He may be a Son in a pro- per Senfe, and in our Senle, without "Divifion and without a y?/^r^^^ Exiftence; and the name =* Difqjiifit. Modei?.- Pracf, ^. xCu 314 ^DEFENSE du.XXt for this is interior Generation. After we are come thus far, purfning your vvandrings into the Tbilofo^hy of the Thing, you ftcp back again, and tell us, that Scripture fays nothing of this 'z^ix^'^^^';, or interior Generation. Sup- pofing (not granting) your Pretence true ; Did You let out upon the Foot of Scripture ? Does Scripture any where tell you, that two divine Perlons cannot be one God? Or x\\2X Father and Son murt: have ;x/eparate ExiJIence? You^ argue only from the Nature and Reafbn of the. Thing it felf of which you have no adequate Idea\ and we anfwer what is fufficicnt, and more than fufficicnt to confute meet Conjedtures. in Matters above your reach. Lay You afidc your unfcriptttral Objections, and We fliall have no occafion for unfcriptural Anfwers. I lliall juft take notice of an artificial Turn of Mr. Emlyn's, relating to this Subjed ; and then put an end to this long, but, I hope, ufeful Di- greffion. His Words are as follows: *" The *' Tride of Reafon, which hindred {theTagan^ '* Thilofophers) from beheving in Chrift, did •* not lie in rcfufing ro fabmit their Faith to ** myjlerious Speculations, which puzzled their *' Reafon: but, on the Contrary, it lay in a *' proud AfTedation of Swelling Words and •• Philofophick Myfteries, and nor humbling *' their Underftandings to receive a plain Go- *' fpel, and familiar Dodrine, The Thought is ingenious, and might pals Weil ; *" Mxam. of Dr. Bcrincr,, ^c. p, j-. IntroduB. if Qu.XXL of fome (QUERIES. 31J if Hiflory, like Metaphyjical Arguments, were ro be made merely by ftrengch of Wit. He forgets that the Alyjiery of the RefurreEiion was one of thofe//^/;/ familiar Things, which the Tr'tde of their Reafon refufed to iubmit to. He con- fiders not that the Jews, and the earh'eft Here- ticks (much of the lame Temper with the Ta- gan Philofophers) were offended at nothing more than at the Myftery of God Incarnate ; which we learn from Ignatius, Jufin, ^ Ire- iiteus, ^ Tertullian , and ^ other antient Wri- ters: And He need but look into Jnjiin^ Tatian, and Origen, to find that the Tagans^ in particular, were in the fame Sentiments, and join'd in the fame common Charge againft the Chriftian Dodtrine. Nay, it may farther ap- pear, from other ^ Evidences, that the very Myflery of the Trinity, which is the Rock of Offence to fome even at this Time, gave very early Ofl^ence to the Tagan Wits; and was much difrelifli'd by Them : So averfe were They to the receiving of Myfteries : And the Tride oi Reafon wrought, at that Time, much after the fame manner, as it does at this day ; Hu- a Secundum nullam Sentcntiam Hasreticorum Vcrbum Dei caro fadlum eft. Iren. \. 3. c. 11. p. 189. b Incredibile praefumpferant Deum Carnem. Tertull. Contr, Marc. 1. 3. c. 8. c Alii quoque Haeretici ufque adeo Chrifti manifeftam amplexa.ti fant Divinitarem, uc dixerint Ilium fuilTe fine Carnej & Totum illi fufceptum detraxerint Hominem, ne decoquerent in illo Divini nominis poteftatem fi Humanam illi SocialTcnt, ut arbitrabanlur, Nativitatem. Novat, c. 18. d Luciaa. Philopatr. Athan. Orat. 3. p. y54. Y 3 joaaa 3i6 y^ D E F E N S E Q^u.XXIL man Nature being always the fame. But it .i§ now high time to proceed. tf^ Q^ U E R Y XXII. Whether his ( the Dodor's ) whole "Perform- ance, whenever He differs from us, be any thing more than a Repetition of this jijfertion, that Being and Perfon are the fame, or that there is no Medium between Tritheiim and SabeUianifra ? Which is re- moving the caufe fror/i Scripture to natural Reafon, not very cojtfifiently with the Title of his Book, IT is of fmall Importance to obferve how the Dodlor has proved fuch Points, as He and We Both agree in. He might have fpared the iinnecelTary Pains and have took a iliorter way with us, had his Caufe been fuch as could be ferved by clofe Argument. He need not have to!d us fo often that the Father is emi- nently (tiled, the one God, or that the Son IS Subordinate, We allow all That: The Confequence which He drawls from it, and co- vertly infinuates to his Reader, is the Thing \vc doubt of This was the Point which iliould have been Jabour'd, for the ConvicSlion of wife and confidering Men. He has a deal to fay in Defence of what no Body oppofes; and may there triumph fecurely without an Adverfary : But when He comes to the J^oint ofT>ifference, the Qu.XXn. of fome (QUERIES. ^7 the pinch of the ^uejfion, there it \s that He difcovers his want of Proof , and how little He has to depend on, befides that one precarious Principle intimated in the ^lery ; which indeed runs thro* his whole Performance, and is often fuppos'd, but never prov'd. By this Principle He ^eludes the Force of the firft Chapter ofSt.yohu'sGofpcl ; And He refers to it again upon ^ ^^s io. 28. ^' i Tim. 3.16. jfoh, 5-. 18. By the fame Principle, He evades the Force of ^Joh.S.^i. ^ Job. ix.^i. ^ Job, 5*. 2 3. And fo He m.ight have done with any Number of Texts , however full and exprels for the Received Dodrine: For, by the fame s Maxim, He draws over the Nice^te-CxeeA^ and does not dcfpair of bringing in the "^ Atba- nafuin alio. From hence it is vifible, wherein the {lren2;th of his Performance liesj and what it is that He chiefly trufts to. It is not Scri- pture^ it is not Antiquity, but a ^bilofopbical Principle; to which Scripture, Fathers, Coun- cils, Creeds, every Thing, muft yield. And in- deed had it been a principle of true zn^ found Fhilofophy, every reafonable Man would be willing to pay the utmofl: Deference to it: But it appears, at length, to be that kind of vain ^hilofopby, which is often intruding where it has nothing to do. The Subjed: is iiiblime and ^^bove Comprehenfion. We have no intrinfick a Script. Doflr. p. 86. b Id. p. 87. c li. p. 88. p7. d lA. p. 99. e p. 101, fp. ijz. gp'4<^>- h p. 4iS. 430. 43J-, &c. Y 4 Evi- jiB ^DEFENSE du.XXII, Evidence, no Ideas to build any thing certain- ly upon. Extrinfick Evidence, 'Divine Re- velation, is here all m all ; And the only pro- per ufe of our rational Faculties, is to inquire into the true and genuine Senib of it. To phi- lojofhiz^e here from the Nature and Reafou of the Thing it iclf, of which we know little, is chufing to be ftill in the Dark, when we have Light before us ; and is nor, properly, following ouri?^^y^;/,but owx Conceits, Fancies, md fond Conjeliures. You are pleafed to fay, in Defence pf the learned Dod:or, that if He had done no more than proved intelligent Being and Per- {on to be the fame, it fnuft for ever remain an zLnanfwerable T)iffculty, &c. Right, if He \\zd proved wh^x: He has not, Ibmething might be faid. I have * before oblerved to you, thac the word. Being, bears two Senfes; and that you your Selves will not call any thing a Be- ing, but a feparate Being. Excufe the Trini- tarians for being referved, after your Example, in fo tender a point; and for endeavoring to Ipeak properly, as well as to think JnJI/y, in things pertaining unto God. AH that the Doctor hath proved, or can prove, is only this ; that feparate Perfons are fo many intelligent Be- ings ; which we readily admit : But united Per- fons, or Perfons having no feparate ExifiencCy may be 07ie Being, qne Snbflance, one God, notwithftanding. And that you may not think that I Skreen my iclf under dark Words, or olfcure DiftindioKS, I will tell you frankly th^ f Qup. p. j57o mean- C^u.XXII. €f fome Q^UERIES. 319 meaning of what I have now (aid. It is lit- tle more than this, that Perfbns ifputer of this World may get the bet- ter o^thtChriftiaU', when Men appear ih much afraid of an imaginary Error in Metapbjficks^ and, to avoid it, run into a real One, againft Scripture and Antiquity. You tell me, indeed, Z that 338 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXii. that if I am pofitive in this, you'i bring both "^ Ante-N'icene and Nkcne- Fathers againft mc. Bur, let mc advifc You to read Them (a fecond Time) over; and you'l fee no Reaion to be Sanguine in this Matter. The Doctor has cited fome Paflages from Them, and made Them feemingly Ipeak his Senfc ; though, in the main, Dodrine, they are clearly againft Him as I have obferved f above. You appeal to thefe Fa- thers as Vouchers for you. But let us attend, however, to what you iay. The Anttent JVriters of the Church un- aninioufy agree, that nothing but an ahfolute Equality and Co-ordination ik God the Father and the Son, can make Ther/i fji'O Gods, and that the real Subordination of the Son to the Father ^referves the Church from Poly- ^ The Sen fe of Ante Nicene and Poft-Nicene Fathers, in Relation to Tr:rh<-irm, may be feen in the following Tajfages. Ronian. apud Athanaf. Vol, i. p. 231. 'O ^/jV) cityjac^ Hcnx,yK>v auo, ovo x.'/,rir?ii Ss^f^' ahinj MoCfxi&.'v(^ y ovv- ffs^eiu, 7rx>AV 6 Qsosi uysv/iTev hvoj Xiy>iv, a^Xov Si Qiov ysv^jrei', Ao u^jj ocircc, >.iy^ 0:-S:?<;, ^^. r^> 7?; cvac/.t^ ^^Oo^mi, ijv /3Aacr^«- yw/ft;? iiOTxyi' cTTH S'b yjicc f/j-.y v, 'Afy/., h ob to s| cscJr?? yivrfi'-joh - • s^; T«5 T^ccTe^Xrm b-ior>]Tte, \}z^ctpyiiC7;(;. Athan.Contr, Sabell- Orcg. p. 42. UZq jjv i^c/jf fJj'.cf, $-<577;5, ii Cfrx. if?, x«,9-' Vf/^ot-c, 'Oujo^Tiac, tu UcCT^i't it yj i^ei Tiv'si t2^c>.fcc(r.Vy y^Tvi !^jd.^o^]iy ku-tu t '^ .o'/a-.Xi ?^o'py, stt^omj? Ujiv &v t/i) 0ioq 6 't}05, iTipo'ici Oi 0 TTXTV.p, K, d'Ja >(ac7K. tstd 0i»5 uvuyxi) My^y cTnp tivinity of the Son could not be otherwife fecured, and Tolytheijm at the fame time avoided, than by afierting Fa- ther and Son to be one God -^ and They thought right. But what do you do ? Or how can you contrive to clear your Scheme ? We ask if the Son be God, as well as the Father ? You fay, Yes: How then is there but one God? Your Anfwer is, The Father is fnpreme, and there- fore He, fingly, is the one God. This is taking away what you gave us before, and retracting what you aflerted of the Son. If Supremacy only makes a Perfon God, The Son is no God, upon your Principles : Or, if He is God notwich- ftanding, then Father and Son are fuso Gods, Turn this over, as often as you pleale, you'l ♦ Qu. 2. p. 2*. find Q^u.XXII. of fome Q^UERIES. 341 find it impo/Tible to extricate your feif from ir. You can fay only this; That you do not ad- mit Two fitpreme Gods. That is very true: No more did the Tagau Polytheifls, nor the Idolatrous Samaritans, nor Others condemned in Scripture for Tolythetjm. You fland pretty fair upon the Principles of Thilofophy ; and arc not guilty of any manifeft Error in Meta- fhyficks, upon this Article. But you are fuch a Trithetft, as upon Scripture- Principles, and upon the Principles of the Catholick Church, both * before and after the Nicene- Council, mud (land condemn'd. Your Belief of the Fathers being for you, in this particular, is pure Fancy and Fidion; owing, I fuppole, to your feeing only fome Pieces of Them in Dr. Clarke. You can find but very little among Antients, which either diredly or indiredly favors your Notion of a fuprerne and a fnbor^ dinate God. They condemn'd it impltcitely, in theirDifput.es with the Tagans, all along: And no fooner was it ftarted in the Church, but the CathoUcks were alarm'd at it ; and im- mediately condemn^ it, as reviving of Crea- ture-JVorjhip , and reftoring Gentiltfm, and Pagan Tolytheifm. Tw^o Gods, a greater and a lels, a Supreme and an Inferior, no Scripture, no ibund Reafon, no good Catholick ever Taught j no Church would have endured. A feparate *N. B. I ilo not fay that the Anre-Nicene/^r'/cn vp:-u!il have caUed the Arian Dt?r?n/2e TrithciTm J perhaps, Bhiyhcnry rather. But They reould have charg'd it toith Pa^anifm {fee Tcrruilian above, p- J<^-) ■»h:ch comes to thi-famg with rvhat thePoOi-KicQniS f^id of it. Z 3 God 54^ ^DEFENSE du.XXII. God from the Supreme, an inferior created God» would nor only have been look'd upon as ^Foljtheifm and Contradiffion, confider'd in it felf ; bar as Herefy and BlaJ^hemy, if under- ftood of God and Chrifl:. To conclude this Head : If we underftand the word, God, in the ftri(3: Senfe, it is ridi- culous to charge the Ar'ian Scheme with flu- ra/ifyofGods. Bur, if it be underftood in the loofe popular Senic, or in your own Senfe of it, it is equally ridiculous to deny it. Mr. Nye^ who, you know, has ftudied this Contrcverfy much and long, and is no Friend either ro the truly C/itho/ick Scheme, or. your\, condemn- ing Both as Trttheifm ; is plcaled however fo far to give the Preference to the former, as to declare, that the Avian Herefy is only a more abfitrd and lefs defenfble Tritheilin*. Of all the four Schemes which have been fol- Jowed, the Sabellian, Catholick, Avian, and Socinian ; The SabelUan only .(which intirely migods the Son, and annihilates the Holy- Ghoft) flands perfedly clear of any Appearance of ^olytheifm. The Catholick appears charge- able, but really is not fb: The Arian and So- cinian both appear fo, and are fo; Where- fore a Charge of Tritheifra muft come from Them, wirh a very ill Grace. For, was the Charge really juft, and were we weak enough to afTcrt three Co-ordinate God's; yet even that could not be more repugnant to the * Ex'plicat. of the Articki of Div. Unity, p- 91. whole Qu.XXII. of fomv Q^UERIES. 343 whole Drift, Scope, and Tenor of the Sacred Writ, than rhe admitting a flitral'ity of Gods, great and little, fovcraign and inferior, in- finite and finite, uncreated and created, to receive our AddrefTes, and to be the Objedts of our Love, Faith, Hope, Confidence, and reli- gious Adoration. (^ u E R Y xxiir. Whether the TD o& or' s Notion of theTrinity he more clear and intelligible than the other ? The difficulty in the Conception of the Trinity is, how three "Terfons can be one God. ^oes the TDoEior deny that every one of the ^er/bns, fingly. is God ? A^^ ; T>oes He deny that God is one ? Ko : Ho'jj then are Three one ? ^oes one and the fame Authority, exercised by all, make Them one, numerically or in- dividually one and the faine Godl: That is hard to conceive ho'-jo three dijlin[i Beings^ according to the T>o[lofs Scheme, can be individually one God, that is, three Ter- fons one l^eyfbn. If therefore one God necefar'ily (ignifies but one Terfbn, the Con fe queue e is irrefifible ; ei- ther that the Father is that one Terfon, and none elfe, ^vi'hich is downright Sabellianifm; Or that the three Terfons are three Gods. Thus the "Dolor's Scheme is liable to the fame difficulties with the other. Z 4 There 544 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXIII. There is indeed one eajy 'ui'ay of coming off^ and that is, by faying that the Son and Holy- Spirit are neither of them God, ifi the Scri^ttire-fenfe of the Word. But this is cutting the Knot, infead of untying it ; and is in effe^ to fay , They are not fet forth as divine Terfons in Scripture. ^oes the Communication of divine Towers and Attributes from Father to Son, and Holy Spirit make Them one God, the "Di- vinity of the two latter being the Father's Divinity ? Tet the faw,e difficulty recurs : For either the Son and Holy Ghoji have di- ftinci Attributes, and a diftinci Divinity of their own, or They have not: If They have, They are {tip on the Doctor's Trin- ciples^ difin6i Gods from the Father, and as much as Finite from Infinite, Creature from. Creator, and then how are They one ? If They have not, then, fince They have no other Divinity, but that individual Di- vinity, and thofe Attributes which are in- fep arable fro?n the Father's EJfence, They can have no difinB EJfence from the Fa- ther's ; and fo ( according to the Doctor ) will be one and the fame Terfon, that is, will be Na^nes only, Q. Whether This be not as unintelligible as the Orthodox Notion of the Trinity, and liable to the like Difficulties : A Communi- fation of divine Towers and Attributes, without the Subflance^ being as hard to con- ceive. Q^u.XXlII. of fome Q^UERIES. 345- cetve, nay much harder, than a Communi- cation of Both together ? YO U are pleafed to fay, that had the Au- thor at all underfloodT)r£\^xk.€^ Books , He 'ujould not have offered thefe Confidera- tions, They are fiich grofs mijlakes, (p. 105-.) Ic might be very pardonable to miftake the Dodtor, who deals much in general and am- biguous Terms ; and I aai the more excu(able, as miftaking on the tender and candid Side. I muft own to you, I was not aware, that the Doctor had denied. Father, Sou, and Holy- Ghoft, to be one God, I did not apprehend, He would fcruple to call Them all together one God\ becaule That would be manifeftly ex- cluding Son and Holy-Ghojt from the one God- head\ and then our diipute about his meaning, would be perfedly at an end. I iliould have been very unwilling to make fo home a Charge, as That upon Him : But fince you are a Friend, and declare in publick that this is his meaning, fo ic iliall be hereafter. And now, I will not ask how three Terfons can he one God, upon the Dodor's Principles ; But Til put the Queflion thus : How can it be true (jifon the "Dotloy's Trinciples) that every Terfon of the Trinity is God-, and true likewife, that there is but one God^ The Queftion or Dif- ficulty being thus fairly ftated , I conceive, that my reaioning againft the other, will, in the C3ain, hold good againft this too 5 only muta- tis 3i6 A DEFENSE (^u.XXIIL its mutandis. Now then, clear me up this DifTiculry ui the Dodtor's Scheme, and free it from Self-Contradi[tio7i, if you are able. I have been iearching dihgendy feveral Pages of your Aniwcr, to Ice if I might find any thing hke a Solution: But I perceive, at length, you was fo wiie as to drop it. You was to tell me How, notvvithftandmg that there are Three divine Terfons ; (that is, Gods, according to you) there is ftill bur one God. Bur inftead of this, you run wandring wide and far, to Ihow how Three may be One, What ? Three Gods one God? That was what I ask'd; the reft is not pertinent, but foreign to the Point. Finding lb little Satisfaction from you, in a Point lb material, in the very pinch of the Qiieftion between theDodor and Us, I thought proper to have recourfe to the Doctor's Books again ; to fee if any thing could be found there to our prefcnt purpofe. I perceived, that '^'Dominion and Authority, according to Him, 7rjake God to be God. Up- on this Principle, He fuppoics the Son, f by nature truly God, having true divine Tower and T>omimon : And He fays, :|: The word, God, in Scripture, is always a relative word ^fOfice, jlg7tifying ferfonal T>ominion. The obvious Conciufion, from thefe Premifcs, is, that if T)ominion and Authority, luch as makes any Perfon truly God, be lodged in Three Per- * Reply, p. 301. t I'b. ^ Si. ^ lb. p. 290. • fons ; Q^u. XXIII. of fome (QUERIES. 347 fons ; Thole Three Pcrfbns, upon the Doctor's Principles, rauft be three Gods. The Doctor being fenfible of this Difficulty in his Scheme, and not being able to iblve it, nor willing to profefs three Gods, tries to difguife and elude it. He asks, * why rnufl three divine Beings, of necefjhy, be cojtceived as three Godsl: TheAnfvver is very eafy : Becauie three divine Beings, is exadly the lame, m other Words, with three Gods, upon his Principles ; and becaufe every one of the Three is fuppoied to have perfonal ^Dominion, that very '\Domi- nion which is lufficient to make a Peribn truly God\ and fuch as makes God to be God, | He goes on to diftinguilh the three Perlbns by the Names of God, Lord, and Holy Spirit ; as if He had forgot, or had no mind to own, that either of the two lad is God, He proceeds: They can no more truly be faid to be three Gods, than each of Them, Jingly, can be truly faid to be the God and Father of All, who is above all\ which is the Afoflle's TDeJinition of the one fuprerne God. But this is not to the Purpofe; unlefs no one can be God, that is not the fufreme GoA. If the Dodor laysThar, He contradid:s Himfelf ftrangcly ; having took a great deal of Pains to ihow that the Son, tho' not the ftipreme God, is yet truly God, hav- ing true divine T^owcr and '\Do?ntnion. If He thinks the Apoftle's Definition of God to be better than his own, why did He not ftand to it? * Reply, j?. 222. t lb. />. 225. And 34S ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXIlI. And then it would be fecn plainly, that his meaning is, that no one can be God but the Father; which is making iliorc work with the Dodrine of the divine Trinity, and ftriking out Son and Holy-Ghoji at once. It is evident to a Demonftration , that the three Perfons are, upon the Doctor's Hypothejis, as really and truly three Gods, as that every one fingly, is God: And therefore, either let Him fay plainly, that there are three Gods; or that nei- ther the Son, nor the Holy-Ghoft is God. The Difficulty then ftill remains unanfwer'd; how (upon the Doctor's Principles) three Per- fons can be every one, fmgly, God\ and yet Scripture fay true, that there is but one God. And now, I return to you again ; whom I left inftrudiing the Reader, very particularly. How Three may be One ; viz. in agreement of Mind, in their joint care of the Church, in Tejlimony, &c. which might have been perti- nent, had I been arguing from the Text, / and my Father are One-^ or from Joh. 5-. 7. But your anfvvering fo copioufly to what I did not ask, and flipping over the main Difficulty, Jooks as if you vvxre more concerned how to keep your Reader from the fight of the Que- ftion, than how to give Him any reafbnable Satisfadion. The firft pertinent Thing I meet vv^ith from you, is in Page 108. where you charge me with a man if eft Error, for fuppollng it Sabellianifm to make the one God but me Terfon ; Q^u. XXIII. of fiyiie (QUERIES. 34? Terfon ; namely, The Pcrfbn of the Father. What I aflert is, that it is Sabellian to fay, that there is but One who is God, one Terjori only, inftcad of one Nature : Or to fuppofe the Godhead to be one finglc Hypojlafis^ or ita)/o7r§oaro'7r@", a Father without his Jtord or Spirit eternally and efientially fubfifting with Him, and from Him. This is what I main- tain, and what you will not be able to difprove. But let us Ibe how you go about it. One God, you fay, is one Terfon only-^ otherwife one ^erfon could not be one God. I anfwer, that no one Perfbn is one God, exclnfively of the other two Perfons. You add, if one God be two 7e?fons or more, it is impoffible for one ^erfon to be God. When we fay one Peribn is God, we mean that He is a divine Hypo- flafis, T>eitatem habe^ts, as the Schools fpeak ; But when we fay God is three Perfons, we un- derhand it of the divine E fence, or Subjtance : So that the word God is fom.etimes taken ejfen- tially, and fometimes/^r,/&;/^//y, which makes the Difference. You proceed: Tbe'Defenders of the Sckolajiick Notion (you mean the De- fenders of the Trinity in Unity ) profefs the Father alone, and diftinEi from the Son and Spirit, is God, or the one God. Very truf} ; in the/^ryS;M/ Senfe before raention'd, dijiin£} from, not excltifive of, the Son and Holy- Spirit. In the fame Scnlc, either of the other Perlons is God, and the one God. There is a tirrher Reafon, w^hy the Father \^ peculiarly and 350 ^DEFENSE Q^u. XXIII. and eminently filled the one Gad: Not to ex- clude the other Peribns; but to fignify his priority of Order, as Father, and as Fountain of all. Thus I have anlwer'd your Reaibns, which you are pleas'd to call T>£nionfiratiQn ; tho' it is manifefl; that, all along in your rca- foning, you take it for granted, that God is one Perlon only, and fiippofe the very Thing in Queftion. You next proceed to confute my AfTcrtion; that the making the one God but one Perlon, \% Sabellian. And you fay thus: If by one Verfon, He means one intelligent j4gent. He makes the Sabellians Catholicks ^ and condemns his O'uun Friends for Tritheifls. I certainly mean a real Perfon, an Hyfojfafis, no mode, attribute, or property, as you might: eafily have perceived. The charge oiTrithetfrn I have fufficiently anfwer'd before ; and return- ed it to its proper Owners. I lliall only add here, that each divine Perfon is an individual intelligent Agent : But as fubfifting in one un- divided Subflance, They are all together, in that refpedt, but one undivided intelligent Agent : And thus my Friends ftand clear of Tritheifm, You obferve, that Sabellius held one Hypo- ftafis, or divine Snbflance, in ofp-oftion to the Church, who profefs'd three Hypoflafes. Why did you not add, or three divine Subftances, having rendcr'd Hypojiafis, divine Siibjlance, juft before? Is not the reaibn of it vifible? You would not lay that the Sabellians held one Subjiance , ai]d the Church three Sub- ftances^ Q^u. XXIII. of fo7ne (QUERIES. 351 Jiances (tho* you do fay ic in efFcd) bccaufe rhe Thing is notorioufly falle. But taking advan- tage of the Ambiguity oi the word, Hypojiajis^ fometimcs uicd to fignify Subjlance, and lomc- times Terjoii , you con- iivc a Fallacy. The Church never profefs'd three Hyfofiajcs in any other Senfc, but as they mean three 'Perfons^ nor would Sabell'tus have been ceniured for holding one Hypojiafis only, had He meant one Subfiance. If you have a mind to iee clear- ly in what Scnfe the Cdtbolicks profels'd either three Hyfoftafes, or one only, you may pleale to coniulc * Athanafiiis and f Gregory Naz>i* anzen, rcfer'd to in the Margin. The Truth \s, the Church always profefs'd one Stibjiance ; one eternal, immutable, uncreat- ed Snbftance\ and this they underilood by, God. Notwithflanding, They believed the Son, and Holy-Spirit to be fubjiantially God. Tra- xeas, Koetiis^ Sabellius, and others, not con- ceiving how one Subfiance could be more than one Terfon, \ one Hyfofiajis, innovated upon the Faith of the Church, and made one fmgle * Ath-^naf. ad Anti'och. p. 973. t Greg. Nazian?.. Orar. 22. p. 595. Orat, 32, p. ^11. 4: Ongen exprejfei the SabcKian NQtiout lery ai/li;ici!y m the foUoTS- ing Papge , , , . ^ *iX>M rc^ 'J^^KSift/inx, Tvy^uvDV^cc UfJuCPoripnc, Ka,ru Tiyecr, iTTjic.di;, » Kxrci, xjxzc^uT-.v XiyioTs^ T^ccTtcot, !c' 'h'jv. Orig. Con), in Joh. p. iS.5- Ed. Kuct. That IS to fay. The Sabellians did not only make 'Eathsr und Sion cne in F.dcnce {as the Church did alfc) but they carri-d it [0 far fls to make Them one Subject, SuppoGtutn, *r flypoftaas, h»vini en)' a nominal not a real Diftindtion. 3JX ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXIII. *^ Hyfojiajis the one God, with three Names. You tell us, with great Aflurance, that this never was, nor could be Sabellianifm, {p, 109. ) To which I fliall only fay; Read, and you will find. You add farther, that the one God is one ^ erf on only, and the Father that Terfon \ And that this is the AJfertion of St,Viw\, We will fee to St. Tatil prefently ; in the mean while, I again tell you, that this is the very EiTence of Sabellianifm, and the Dod:rine of * Taul of Samofata (as hath been obferved to you above) and for which He was condemn'd by the Church. Your pretence from the Apo- ftle's Words, {To us there is but one God, even the Father^ has been fufficiently anfvver'd un- der the former Queries. I ihall only obferve here, that the Text mention'd is much ftronger againft the Dodor and your Self, than againft Us. For how can You, after fb ^lain and ex- frefs a Text to the contrary, pretend that the Son alio is God to us, really and truly God, and in the Scripture- Senfe of the word, Godi Whether, think you, do We, who make Him ejfentially the fame God with that one, and fuppofe but one God in all, more flatly con- tradid: St. Taul ; or You who make two Gods, and in the fame relative Senfe, in which Sr. Taul'xs fuppofedto ufe the word, G8. Pater & Filius 8c Spiritus Sand us, & propter buliziduam Deitl- tcm Unus Deus eft, 8c propter uniufcujuiquc proprisr;ifcf:) tres per- fonji iunt, 8c propter fingulorum 2erf<:ciidne?n r^rf^s unius Dei non [Mnfn Id. ibid, p. 6^9. pick- Q^u.XXIIL of fome (QUERIES. 35f ftick-Notion dtfagrees "-jvith the Sabellian? I anfvver, in admitting three real lubfilling Per« fons. But fince you are fo often charging us with Sabellimiifm, it may be proper to oblerve here, how near akin the Sabellians and ^rian^ are to each other, Both, as it were, growmg of the fame Stock. I. In the firft Place, Both fccm to fuppofe or take for granted, that if the modus, or man- ner, be unintelhgible, the Thing it lelf is in- credible. %. Both agree iii the fundamental Principle oi Herejy, that one Subftance, or Being, can be only one real Perfon, or Hyfofta/is. As Nejiorius and Eutyches, tho^ taking difFerene ways, yet proceeded upon the fame Bottom, that two Natures could not make one Terfon inChrift: SoSabellius and ^ri/zj", before Them, tho' differing in the lad refult, yet fet out up- on the iame Principle ; That two real PerfonS cannot be one Being, or Subftance. 3. In Confequence of their prime Pofition* Both confpire to difcard, in reality, the Son and the Holy-Ghoft from the One true God- head \ looking upon it as Trithelftn to make the Perfons real, and divine too. One Hypo- ftafis in the Godhead is all that either of Them admits ; both Judaizing, as * Gregory Nyfeii juftly obferves, in that refped: And the Sa- b?lHan^s Tti^wfio^^ (or God with three Names) 'Aymarsr, Gre-j, Nv(T, Contr. Euncm. p. ^7^. A9. % ' artfvvers 35^ y^ D E F E N S E Q^u.XXIlL anfwers to the Arian^ 'Ay^vp/iTo^, Self-exijlent, or Vnbegotten God. Thus far they amicably agree; let us next obferve where They differ. SuppofingThem fix'd and fettled in their pre- liminary Principle, it is manifeft that the Word and Sprit muft either be Na??ies only, or, if real diflind: Perfons, Creatures. The SabeU Hans were at liberty to chufe this, or that; But, finding Scripture run high, and Tradition ftrong for ihc'Divhuty of the Pf^orJ and Holy- Spirit, They made choice of the former; in- terpreting Father, Son, and Holy-Gboft, as dif- ferent Names of one and the fame Hypoflajis, or real Perfon. By this, they effccSlually guard- ed againfl: the fuppos'd Trttheijm of the Cat ho- licks, as well as againfl: Pagan Tolytbeifm ; and, being wife Men fo far, i'ecured the Point which They aim'd at. The Arians, who came after (and who, as I before faid, fet out upon the fame preliminary Principles) finding that the Sabellian Confnjion of Perfons had been utterly routed, bafHed, and exploded by all good Catholicks, had really no Option left; but either to make the Son and Holy Spirit Creatures, or give up their Preliminaries. Accordingly, They took the way which the Sabellians had \tii Them ; and were very un- happy in this particular, that, endeavoring to avoid one kind of Tritheifm, They fell into Another. The Arian Scheme, beftdes it's failing in it's principal Dcfign of avoiding Tolytheijm, has many Q^L. XXIII. of fome (QUERIES. 357 many real and great Difficulties ; being as well too high for foine Texts, as too low for others; which the Catholicks, or Sabellians can much better deal with. Hence, I fuppolc, it was, that the Unitarians, at the Beginning of the Re- formation, having modeftly begun with *y^r/- anifm ; for the mod part, fettled into Socini' anifm, which is near to Sabellianijm: And our Englifli 'Unitarians, who for acutenefs of Wit and fubtilty of Thought have not been in- ferior to any of their Brethren, have been flill rciining upon the Socinian Scheme (which had ftruck upon T)itheifm, in Hke manner as the Arian had upon Tritheijm) and have brought it ftill nearer to Sahellianifm. After all, when Men have run their Courie from Orthodoxy to Arianifm, from Arianifin to Socinianifm, and from thence to Sabellianijm ; if They will but give themfelves leave to refled: and look back, They may perhaps perceive, at length, that CathoUcifin, is the only Scriptiral, as well as the Antient Scheme ; liable to the fevveft Dif- ficulries, and bcft guarded againft Objections. It is therefore no wonder that the Bulk of Chri- flians, learned and unlearned, have, for as many Centuries upwards as we have any clear Re- cords extant, efpoufed it. It is an eafy matter for Men of Wit and Fancy to find fault with Any Thing: But it requires Thought and Judg- ment to fettle Things upon their true Bottom. LetThofe who are difpleafed with xkiz received * Socin. Contr. FTafiii. johati. p. 495. A a 3 Dodriae, 3j5 ^DEFENSE Q^u. XXIII. DocOrine, fliovv us a Better ; and make any other confident Scheme (confident with Scripture and with it Self) if They can. Wife and good Men will be always willing to Reform, if there be Caule for it : But they will not be forward ro pull down what appears to be founded on a Rock, in order only to build upon the Sand. It is fome Satisfaction to the Trinitarians to obferve, how long fome great Wits have been new-modelling Chriflianity ; and have not yet been able to agree in any one certain Scheme. The Arians fall upon the Sabellians, and the SabelUans again upon Them : One defends the Terfonality, and the other the T>ivinity of the Aoy«5^» or Word, and cannot yet be brought to any Agreement. * Betwixt Them, the Prin- ciples of the Catholick Church are fupporred, and They condemn each other, in the very Thiogs which the Church condemns in Both. If 1 may give a Judgment of the two Schemes, the Sabellian appears to be the nearer of the Two, and mod confident with it felf: ThtAriau is more pious and moded, tender of degrading the Son of God too far. As Men grov/ bolder and morq learned in Herefy, They will, very probably, be drawing nearer and nearer to the SabelUans. Two of the abled and acuted Men of the prefent Unitarians (one Here, the other Abroad) are Both in the Sabellian way : And * UtcrqueKoftis Ecckris res Ecclcfis agit: Dum Sabellius Dciim ex naturain operibus pr^dicatj Hi vero, ex Sacyamento Fidei, Pium Dei confitentur. HjL ^. gic)^ Qu. XXIII. of fome (QUERIES. 359 as They have given Proofs of their Learning, fo have they fufficicntly fhovvn their Boldnefs alfo, by treating fb fabhme and tremendous a Sabjed:, in the way of Scotf and Ridicule. To return ; You are pleafed to fay, that you have anfwer'd for "Dr. Clarke' j* Notion not being Sabellian, and have proved that it is not Tri- theiftick. But give me leave to fay, that you are deceived in Both: The Ground \% Sabel- lian, and the Super-ftrudture Tritheiftick\ and, the whole contrived in fuch a way, as to hang loofcly together. It is obvious, at firfl: fight, that the true Arian or Semi' Arian Scheme (which you would be thought to come up to at leaft) can never tolerably fupport it felf, without taking in tho Catholick Principle of a Hitman Soul to join with the Word. If you come thus far, it will then be eaiy to perceive that the Sabellian Scheme is the fimpler and plainer ; befides that it better anfwers the high Things fpoken of the Word'^ in refped of which your Scheme is as much too lo'ju, as before too high. But then again, the Arguments for the diftind perfonality of the Word and Holy Spirit, bear lb full and ftrong, that there will appear a NeceiTity for taking in another Catholick Principle j and That will compleacly anlwer all. And why then (hould not the Catholick Dodrine (fo ap- parently neceflary to make Scripture confident) be admitted ? The Cafe, in few words, appears; to be only this. You cannot underftand how A a 4 Thre^ 35o ^/f D E F E N S E Q^u. XXIII. Three can h^One-, you fee no reafbn, a frioriy why, if the Son and Holy Spirit htCo-eval ^^nd Conjubflant'tal They fliould not be Co-ordi- nate too; you know not why the Father raight not as well be laid to be begotten^ as to beget ; to be fent, as x.o fend, or the like. Very true: But you may fee a Reafon, a priori, why Crea- tures, of yefterday, may not be able to fearch the deep Things of God: You may know how well it becomes Them to fubmit their Fancies, or Preftimptions, to divine Revelation ; content to fee through a Glafs darkly, till the Time come to know God more perfed:ly, and to fee Him as He is. This may be a fufficient An- fwer to a pious and humble Mind, in all Cafes «)f this Nature; where the difficulty is owing only to our impcrfed; and inadequate Con- ception of Things. \ was obliged to pafs over fome Remarks you had in your Notes *, for the fake of Method : But it will not be too late to confider Them here. I had made no ufe of foh. lo. 30. ( / and my Father are one ) but you had a mind to bring it in, to let us know how well you could anlwer it, from the primitive Wri- ters. I am always willing to defend thole good Men, and to refcue Them out of the Hands of Thofe, who either knowingly, or ignorantly abufe Them. You begin thus, Triumphantly : The T)e fenders of the Scholaftick Explication of the Trinity in Vnity^ tho' They pretend * P2g, 10 5c much Q^u. XXIIL of fome CLUERIES. ^6\ much that the moft Antietit Writers of the Church are on their fide , yet, in expreffJng their Notion of the ^nity in the divine Per- fons.Thcy do not only leave Scripture and Rea- fon, but plainly rnn againft the whole Stream of Antiquity alfo. The Text on iz'hich they fo much rely (Joh. 10.30.) is underfiood by Ter- tullian Himfelf of the Unity of Love, and Confent, a7id Power, You go on to cite Ter- tullian, and others, from Dr. Clarke. But, Writers in a Caufe, are very often known to reprefent Things by halves. You ihall fee, prefently, what little Reafon you have to talk of the whole Stream of Antiquity, The Text, which you fpeak of, has all along been made ule of by ihcCathoHcks,m twoReipeds; firft, m Proof of our Lord's rollos were one Per- son, which is abfurd. Whatever the Text might otherwifc prove, it certainly did nor prove , what the Sabelltans pretended , an Unity of Perfon. This the Poft-Nicene Fa- thers frequently obfcrve, againft the Sabellians (as 36t A DEFENSE (^u. XXIII. (as the Ante-Nicene had doae before) though, at the fame time. That Text might be of good ufe againfl: the^r/^;/j-; as it had been all along againft the Impugners of Chrift's "Divinity, For your clearer Apprehenfion of this Matter, I iliali fet down, * in Two diftind: Columns, the Sentiments of the primitive Writers, on this * Agalnf Im^Hgners of Chrifi's Divinity. Tertullian. Qui Tres Unum funt, non Unus, quomodo didlum eft, Ero ^ Fater Unum fumus. Ad Sub- ftantix Unitatem, non ad Hu- meri Singularitatem. Adv, Frax. c. IS. N O V A T I A N. Quod fi, cum nullius Hominis Haec vox e/Te polTet, Ego ^ Pa- ter unum fumus, banc vocem de Confcientia Diviniiatis Chriftus Solus edicit merito Deus eft Chrfftus. c. 15. Si Homo tantummodo Chri- ftus, quid eft quod dicit, Ego ^ Tater unum fumus. Si non & Deus eft, & Filius, qui idcirco unum poteft dici, dum ex Ipfo j eft. & dum Filius ejus eft, 6c | dum ex ipfo nafcitur, & dum : ex Ipfo proceffiiTe reperitur, per ! guod & Deus eft. f. 23. O R I G E N. i ' '^ S > ~ ,> J, AS;fTi«!/ Oi K. r^rti'f, TtSTO, 071 UTTCB Againji Sabellians, Tertullian. Unum dicit Neutrali verbo» quod non pertinet ad Singularita- tem fed an uniiatefn, ad Conjun- dtionem , ad dikdionem Patris, qui Filium diligit, & ad obfequium Filii, qui Voluntati Parris obfequi- tur. Unum fumus, dicens, quos ae^uat & jungit. Ailv.Frax.c.ii* NoVATI AN. Quia dixit unum, intelligant Hxretici quia non dixerit unus* Unum enim neutralitcr pofitum Societatis Concordiam, non Uni- tatem Perfons fbnat merito unum fit Pater & Filius per con- cordiam, 8c per amorem, & per diledrionem Novit banc con- cordix Unitatem 8c Apoftolus Faulus cum Perfonarum diftin- <^tione- •' ,^i plan tat (Q* qui rigat unum fum, Quis autem non intelligat alterum efte Apollo, al-. terum Faulum, non eundem at- que ipfum Apollo pariter £c Fau- lum% C. 2 2. O R I G E'N, sV K-u,sy-^' syx C6V urns v/X'^i y^, frficiyf^xisc^h clt rvi 6f{s/ai!X,y^ avtx^-' Q^u. XXIII. of fome Q.UER1ES. ^6% 0£oy. ___ 'ivcc ovv Qsev otq )y7rshdCi)y.u,. fM>iv, T TTccrc^ ^ T 'ifcy ^spccTivo- [jjiv. Contr. Celf. 1.8. p. 386. DiONYsius Rom. O'JTt (pif')) TTD'HT^ K6J>itjiv TO U^.U [pec f^ li \}sTipcuX?iOv ujiyi^^ r5 '"'giy — — iva^xj ^ TM Qsd r «A«v T Aisj^K, iya yup, (pyjci, x.ui 7rci7/,i) h iG-f/iiv. Ap. Athan. p.23i. HiPPOLYTUS. O'j QUO 0s»5 A/yw, ciXX' u)e, (^ac, ftjj UKTiycc oiTTo iiMa, 0uvx,ijji<; yxp fjuix i} c/a ra 7r6iym)(;, to as ttocv 7fcc7/,f,i^ oil S'u'iciUjtq Xoy(^. c. I I. Alexander. Alex. 'Lyu >^ 0 TTtcr^f iv sir/^jv. o^tp ^/i- ViV 6 «yg/{e^,8 TTXTT^iC iXVTOV CiVX'^- ^ivav. iai toc, r^i "^jsjvfua-^ euo 'T1>TU7rii SJiTVr©^ y^CCOBCKTVjp, Theod. E. H. 1, i, c. 4. p. if. F. P I P H A N T U S . Kee* .37^<; tuth^ fpiv 7ii<;vouji^ov- TXq oc.>i?.c-Q^oj i'ivx; Tcv 'ijoy ^ ttcC- rooq Xiyi, ^yO> (C" O TTXTA^ iV i(riMi9 ;^ TO iiVXf Oi, jJUlli iVO- T7J7J S-fOTTjr:;, y^ cj UjIu, yva,'^^ fC h'v^y.i, p, 4S8. Hscr.jV. Cyril. Hieros. hv j^. ro X0C7W T))!* ^ia-n;Tcc ecj^iufjucc iTni^n (z)io(i Qiov lyjvv/jjTy, Ei» J^. ra KocTcc tIuj /Sxi^Asiocv — sy ^(A TO fjij-/jj,cc* ituxj ^a(p&>- rM.y »} 2il^fzi^ uXXoc xcCT^l^' (MiX yj V TTuvruv 9^f^iovp^^, p, );. Ed. te.7rsLuyx.ar fjjoL t?? ^'|>)5j j{^w ;^«c» fiU.icTKoof' Tti? vjjsfKirTa'? t5 ©ik) iCJfcCKi'.'Oj cv aJrJ «;tj jt';(^'»< rou 0«y, r Ote>. Coiitr. CclC 1. 8. P^^ ,Si;. Hi PPOLYTUS. 0:;% ji itmv 071 tyai x^ 0 rarjjp -tw J»u.<, iAA' ti* ta-fJtjiv. TO yep io-fjui* chc i(p' svo<; As^TTSC;, iAA' jVj l^S-iiy, f/jy,7c cry^aAo.- J$ S'o^yjij and p^stgctJcTJigoc rns ^xja^T^oiod^^ which feem to have been added to quahfy the former ; and are hardly pertinent but on fome fuch Sup- pofition. To confirm which, pleafe to compare Origen with Alexander Bifhop oi Alexandria his Comment on the fame Text, and you'l find Them very nearly the fame ; which is fufficient to acquit Origen of any Sufpicion of Arianiz,^ ing^ in this Point. 1 come next to Hipfolytus, who has but lately appeared, and whom neither the Doctor nor You have took notice of He argues, againft thtSahellians, in the very fame way with7>r^ tulliany Novatian, and Origen: But then, in the other Citation oppofitely placed, He clear- ly refoives the Unity of the Godhead into Unity of Subftance and Principle, But befides this, it deferves your fpecial Notice, That while He fpeaks of Unity of Will, and Concord (ad- mitting a kind of Parallel between the Union of Chriftians, and the Union of God andChrift) He clearly fignifies how infinitely more perfedl the latter is; refolving it into this, that the Son is the m^ *7ro£.r^9?, the Living and Subflantial Mind, or Thought of the Father. This then is the Cafe ; There is an Unity of Concord, and Q_u.XXIlL of fime (QUERIES. 367 and Harmonious Love, founded upon Unity of Subftance : And the words, / and my Father are one^ Exprefs both the Unity it ielf, and the Foundation of it. Taul and ApolLos were one in Heart and Will, in fuch Meafurc and Degree as They were capable o'i\ And To God and Chrift are one hkewifc ; but by an Union infinitely more perfed:, and upon an infinitely higher Foundation. You need not be told, that 5ca')-(i)$ often fignifies not an exa^ Equality ^ but a general Sitnilitnde : The Remark is juft ; and, as it is at other times urged againft us, fo let me here claim the Benefit of it. I have added to the Number, Two Toft-Ni- cene Writers, Ej^ifhanius and the elder Cyril^ which are enough to iliow that the iame way of reafbning againft the Sabeliians (which pre- vailed before ^q Nicene-Council) obtained like- wife afterwards. Some are apt to triumph ex- tremely, if They can but find any the leaft Difference between the Ante-Nicene and Tojl- Nicene Writers. If there be but a Text or Two difi^erently interpreted, a fblemn Remark is made upon it ; and fometimes a trifling Note of fome obfcure Scholtaji, or any Imaginary Dif- ference (having no Foundation but the JVritcf^ Ignorance, or Negligence in comparing) is im- proved into an Argument of Change of T>o- Brine ; and Athanafianifm is made the Name for what has been conftantly held in the Chri- ftian Church. If there be occafion to fpeak of the Things feemingly Derogatory to the Honour of 368 ^DEFENSE du. XXIII. of the Son (his being Subordinate ; his refer- ring all Things to the Father, as Head, Root^ Fountain, Caufe\ his executing the Father's Will, and the hke) Or of a real Diftindiion between Father and Son (as their being hha kejh- fico. du£ Res, or one of them, ae/6^^ 'gTt^@-, that is, perjonally diftind: from the other) then only Ante Nicene Fathers are quoted ; as if the Toji Nicene did not teach the very fame Doctrine : But if any thing, which feems to make more for theFIonour of the Son, be men- tioned (as His being uncreated, eternal, one Goa with rhe Father, Creator of all Things, and the Yik^) this is to be reprefenred as the Dodrine oi iht Toft- Nicene Fathers only; tho* nothing is more evident than that They varied not a Tittle, in any material Point of Dodrine, from their Predeceflors ; but only preferved, as became Them, with an upright Zeal, the true Faith of Chrift, i^hich was once delivered to the Saints. To return. It is needlels almoft, to take no- tice of other Teftimonies : Thole in the Mar- gin are fufficienc to ihovv the true and con- ftant Senfe of the Chriftian Church. The * Dodor quotes Bafil and Chryfoftom, as fay- ing Father and Son were One, xciri JuW^wa': And, left the Reader fhould underftand what thole Fathers meant by jtccra Swc^^ija^ Ke curs Chry- foftom iliort ; whofe words immediately follow- ing (ei J'g y\ iijvy.fJii$ y\ ctuT>?, ivS)\\ov Sti x!, jj dvaioi^ * Pag. 107 fllOW Q^u.XXm. of fome Q^UERIES. 3^9 iliow that He meant by ^victijug^ not the lame Authority, but the fame inherent, eflential, omnipotent Power. Athenagoras's S\))faL(jL{ may be rightly inter- preted by Hippolytus before cited ; or by Chry- foftom ; or by Himfelf, in feveral Places where He is clear for the Confiibflantiality . Jnjiin Martyrs Sentiments have been explained a- bove; and the Council oi Antioch's ExprefHon ( TM (ruiJL(pm[cL ) is vindicated by * Hilary ; who Himfelf may be readily underftood by Inch as remember how the primitive Fathers held the Ho!y-Ghoft to be^ as it were, VinciUtim Tri- nitatis, and fometimes Amor Tatris ® Filii ; as the Son Himfelf is alfo ftiled Charitas e:>$ Charitate, by f Origen, Thefe Things I can only hint to the intelligent Reader, having al- ready exceeded the Bounds of a Digreffion. * Pag. I !7o, 1 17 I, t Pamph. Apol. p. 235-, Ed. Bened. B b Query 370 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXlV. Q^ U E R Y XXIV. Whether Gal. 4. 8. may not be enough to de- termine the difftite betisj'ixt T^j*; Jlnce it obliged the T>o5ior to confefs that Chrijl is *by Nature truly God, as truly as Man is by Nature truly Man. He equivocates, indeed, there, as nfual, For^ He IjdHI have it to fignify, that Chrijl is God by Nature, only as having, by that Nature 'which He derives from the Fa- ther, true divine ^ovuer and T>ominion : That is. He is truly God by Nature, as having a Nature dijiinB from, and in- ferior to Gods, wanting \ the mod efTential Character of God, Selfexiftence. IVhat is this but trifling 'with IFords, and flaying fafl and loofe ? IN Anfwer hereto , you begin : fVill the ^uerift infifi uPon it, that the Son cannot be God by Nature, unlefs He be Self ex- iflent ? And you proceed : / can ajfure Him the learnedeft, even of his own Friends, are ajhamed of this ; and there are few fo hardy, as dire&ly to affirm it. But, have a little Pa- tience, and ril endeavor to make you eafy. Where were your Thoughts? Where were your Eyes? Either lam ftrangely miftaken, or the Line, which ofteaded you lb grievoufly, was • Reply, p. Si^ t Reply, p* 92- fcored Q^u.XXIV. of fome (QUERIES. 371 [cored underneath ; and pag. px. of the DoiStor's Reply referred to, as you find now ; And my charging the Dodtor with flaying fafi and looje, iinmcdiateiy after, might have been a fufficient Intimation of my meaning. Whether I think the Son Selfexijlent or no, is not now the Qaeftion. I took hold of the Dodlor's Ex- prefTion, charg'd Him withfa/f and loo fe, that is, faying and unfaying, contradidling Himfelf. liSelf-exifience be the mofi effential Character of God, it feems to me to follow, that the Son; who by the Dodor's Confeffion wants that CharaBer, cannot be truly and by Nature God, any more than any thing can be truly and by Nature Man, without the ejfential ChariEter of Man. As to my own part; I never pretend that Self-exijience is an effential CharacSer of God : You might have confider'd that we deny it abfolutely ; we fuppofe it merely negative^ and call it a perfonal Charad:er. Neceffary- exijience is an ejfential Character, and belongs equally to Father and Son : If Thar be what you mean hy Self exijlejice, then That alio be- longs to Both. Explain your felf, and deal not fo much In ambiguous Terms, which we have jufl Reafbn to complain of The Do<2:or knows how Selfexijtent, by Cuftom, founds among con.rxiion Readers; and that denying the Son to be Selfexijientj may be thought by many the fame Thing with denying Him to be God, Had He plcafed, in his Tranflations of kymviTo?^ and elic-whcre, to fay ofrner, unbegotten or nn- B b ^ derived; 37^ A DEFENSE Q^u.XXIV. derived, inftead oi Selfexijient^ it would have been kind towards his Readers, and perhaps as kind to Himfelf ; For it will be always thought as much beneath a grave Writer to take the poor Advantage of an equivocal Word, as it is a difparagement to any Cauie to be lerved by it. But to proceed. You wanted, it feeras, to bring in a parcel of Quotations, which you' might as well have referred to only, where They * lie^ and may be feen to greater Advantage. Whatever They are, They contradidt not me ; nor are They at all pertinent to the Bufmefs of the Query. My defign was to iliow, at once, the Dod:or*s In- confiftency with Scripture, and with Himfelf; Both which are intimated in the Query. It was your part to defend Him, as fairly as you could. The Dodor, I obferved, was obliged from GaL 4. 8. to confefi that the Son is by Nature truly God, From thence I infer, that His Scheme cannot (land with that Text ; being an exprefs Contradidion to it. You infift upon it not- withftanding, that the Son may be by Nature truly God, agreeable to the Text, and con- fident with the Dodtor's Principles. This then is the fole Point between us, to be here dif- cufs'd. You have^ you fay, proved, that in Scri- pture there are different and fubordinate Ac- vcptations of the word, God. True, you have proved that Men have been called Gods ; and ^^ Script. Do^r» P< jo$, 8{e. Idols Q^u.XXIV. of fome (QUERIES. 373 Idols Gods ; the 'Devil \s alfb a God, ( i Co}\ 4. 4.) and the Belly a God. Bur, I think, St. 'Taul hath fufficicntly inrimatcd, (1 Cor. 8. f,^.) that the Son is not to be reckoned among the Nominal Gods ; bcfidcs that you your Selves confefs it. If He be God at all, He is a real one: And now I want to fee what Scripture Warrants, or permits us to profefs Two real and true Gods, You fay, the Son is God, trttly, and properly, and by Nature, in the Scripture Senfe of the word, God. (/.no.) Then fay I, He mud be the iame with the one fttpreme God, becaufe there is but One. If He is truly fb. He is the fame with the only true God\ \i properly fb, his Subftance is properly divine ; if hy Nature fb, He has the lame Na- ture with the one God. Yet I very well know that you intend nothing like it: Only, from the concurring Language of Scripture and Anti- quity, you find it necefTary to fay as we fay : And are afterwards to rack and ftrain Invention, to find out fome fubtile and furprizing Meaning for it. What may we not do with any Writings in the World at this Rate, fb long as Words are capable of being prefs^d and tortured into diverfe Meanings? But let us go on, to fee how you account for the Son's being God by Na- ture, If divine Tower and Dominion be derived and exercised partially, temporarily, or in certain Emergencies only, it snakes the Terfms to be, and to be Jiiled Gods ; 7iot by Nature, but by Grace, Your Notion of Do- B b 3 minion. 374 ^DEFENSE C^u.XXlV. minion making God to be God, has been fuffi- ciencly expoied in the former Parts. I need only ask here, what was God before the Crea- tures were made ? Or did He then begin to be Qod, by Nature, when He created the Uni- verlej and began to have ^Dominion over it ? But to proceed ; Give mc leave to obferve here, that the Son is God, not by Nature, but by Grace, in Confequence of your own Principles. Being a Creature, and finite. He can exercife the divine Power and Dominion no otherwife x}i\Vi\ partially \ and fince He did not exercife the divine Power and Dominion to the utmoft, before his Refurrcdlion, He exercis'd it only in certain Emergencies \ and fince the Exercife began then, and is to end after the Day of Judgment, it is barely Temporary : And fo, by your own Characters, you make Him God, by Grace, hke Angels, Magiftrates, and Tro- fhets ; Only his T>Gminion is larger, and for a longer period of Time : This is your God by Nature. But you are very excu(able for not doing what is ridiculous, at firft fight, even fo much as to pretend to. For how fliould the Son be God by Nature, upon your Principles, when the Father Himfelf, whatever his Meta- fhyfical Nature may be (which the * Dodor allows not to come into Confideration) is God by Office only ; might not have been God at all, if He had pleaied to make no Creatures; and may ceafe to be God, in the Scripture- f Script, Do6lr. p. 14 J. 296. Reply, p. ^ol Q^u.XXIV. of fome (QUERIES. 37^ Senje of the word, whenever He will; by let- ting all Things drop into their primitive No- thing. Now iinlels Nature and Oj]ice fignify the lame, it is not cafy to conceive, upon the Doctor's Principles, how any Perion can be God, by Nature^ at all. You fay, if the di- viJie Toiz'ers and T>ominion be derived to^ and cxercifcd by a Nature, Terfon, or intelli^ gent Subfance, Universally (which is im- pofTible to fuppole in a finite Creature) Per- .AiANENTLY ( which Is Contrary to your own Suppofition of a Kingdom which is to have an end) Unalterably, (tho' an Alteration is preiumed in refped: of the Son, and might be iuppofed even in refped: of the Father Himfelf) If thefe Things be fo ; that is, if Conrradidlions be true, what then ? Then fuch a Being, or 'Terfon, is God by Nature, &c. And this you give us as the true tneaning of Gal.^. 8. But, I hope, we fliall have more refpcd: for an infpired Apoftle than to Father any fuch meaning upon Him. For the true Senfe and Import of it, I refer you to the * Learned Gen-, rleraan, who has fo well defended this Text againft Dr. Clarke. You add , Had not the Scriptures this Senfe of the "i^wd, God, They could not be intelligible or reconcilable (p.us .} But are you well affured that you undcrftand whatever is intelligible or reconcilable ? The Metafhyfical ^Definition, you lay, cannot be th^ only Scrifttire-Se77fe cf the Term, God. * True Script. Doflr. continued, ./». -^ ;, ^^r, B b 4 Yoii 376 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXIV. You allow then that it may be the Trincifal^ tho' nor the only Scripture- Senfe ; which I am glad to hear from you. The Learned Dodlor will not admit the Metaphyfical Senfe to be * ever the Scr if ttire- Senfe oi the Term, God. The Metaphyfical Senfe, He exprefly fays, is never intended \ but the confiant ufage of Scripiire is different. The Word, God, in Scripture, is Always a relative Word of Office: Which tho' the Dodor has no Proof of, or Ground for, yet He knew why He faid it ; and had very good prudential Reafons for it. For, if the Metaphyfical Senle be ever in- tended, when the word, God, is fpoken of the Father, no good Reafon can be afllgn'd why it iliould not be {o always, when fpoken of the fame Perfon: And if this be the current and moft ufual Senfe of the word, God, in Scripture, we fliall have a fair handle to prove that it was intended in the fame Senfe, when fpoken, in fiich and fuch Circumftances, of the Son : Or, at leafl, the Dodor will have Httle or no Pre- tence left, upon his Principles, for faying that the Son is truly, ^i^x^. properly, God. You ob- ferve, that the Metaphyfical Definition of one Selfexiflent, underived, independent, fiipreme Being would exclude the Son, who is derived. This is the Sum of your Argument, and clearer than you have put it. But 1 mufl obfervc to you, that this Tiefinition, or fomething like it, iiath long pafTed current with Men who be- * Script. Doftr. />, 296. Reply, />, 1 19. ipo: lieved Q^u.XXIV. of fome Q^UERIES. 377 lieved a Trinity of divine Verfons, and were never apprehenfivc of any fuch Coniequcnce as you would draw from it. Ic is properly a De- finition of the To SeTov, the divine Nature, ab- ftraEting from the Confideration of the dijlin- Bion of Perfbns, which is the ufual method that x\it Schoolmen, zwA others have taken; and there the ^ oxdsfelf exijient , under ived, independent^ are not confidered as perfonal Characters, but ejfejttial, Neceffarily-exijling, uncreated, im- mutable, alljiijficienty are what They mean, in that definition: Othervvife it is a Definition of the Peribn of the Father only, fingly confider'd. But if inftead of Metaphyficks (which rauft al- ways be content to (land correded by Gofpel Revelation) we chufe to take our Definition of God from Scrij?ture : Then that of * Ale- lanffon, which I have put into the Margin, will be more full and compleat. * Deus eft EfTenria Sfiirirnalis, intelligens, vernx, bona, pura, ju(la, mifericors, liberrima, imnneurx potentine, & l^apientiar, Pater sff.crnus qui Filium Imaginem fuam ab aeterno genuit, & Filius Imago Patri? Co-n:rerna, 8c Spiritus San(flus proccdens a Patre & }'i]io. Melanci. Loc. Theolog. de Deo, Q^UtR Y i?8 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXV. Q.U E R V XXV. Whether it be not clear from all the genuine Remains of Antiquity^ that the Cathoiick Church, before the Council of Nice, and even from the Beginnings did believe the Eternity and Confubfantiality of the Son ; if either the oldejl Creeds, as interpreted by thofe that recite Them ; or the Tejli- monies of the earliejl Writers, or the pub- lick Cenfures pafs'd upon Hereticks , or particular Tajfages of the Antientefi Fa- thers, can amount to a proof of a Thing of this Nature ? YOU tell me, in Anfwcr, that it is not clear that the Ante-Nicene Church pro- fefs'd the Notion of Individual ConfubJIan- tiality : That theObjeEior cannot produce one fingle Tajfage in all Cathoiick Jl?ite-Nicene Antiquity, which proves an Individual or NuiMERicAL Confubflantiality , in the three divine Terfons. This Anfvver is fcarce be- coming the Gravity of a Man, or the Sincerity of a Chriftian, in lb ferious and weighty an Ar- gument. Did I fpcak of Individual Confub- Hantiahty ; or, if I had, could I mean it in your Senfe? I ask, whether the Fathers believed the Three Perfons to be one Subftance ; and do- affirm that They did, univerfally. You An- fvver, that They did not aflerc the Three Per- ibas Q^u.XXV. of fome (QUERIES. 379 fons to be one Terfon ; which is the conftant Senle you make oi Individual. And here, you would make a fliow as if the ObjeEior had been miftakcn, and as if you contradid:ed Him; when all rcfolves into a trifling Equivocation, and you really contradid Him not at all. That pefent Scholaflick Notion, as you call it, of three Perfons being one Terjon, Hji- j^ojiajis, or Stifpofitnm, is no where ^rejent^ that I know of, amongft any that own a TrU nity ; neither is it the Scholaflick Notion ; as any Man may fee, that will but look into the Schoolmen, and read with any Judgment. Individual has been own'd, but never in your Senfe ; and Nwnerical too, but in a Senfe very different from what you pretend to oppofe it in : And therefore, to be plain with you ; this way of proceeding, in an important Contro- veriy, is neither /^/r towards your Adverlarics, nor Jincere towards the Readers ; but, at beft, is only fclemn Trifling. You know, or you know little in this Controverfy, that ail the Fathers almofl: to a Mauj either exprefiy or implicitely, aflcrtcd the Confubflantiality of the Son with the Father. Call it Individual, or call it S^ecifick ; that is not now the Que- ftion. They unanimoufly maintained that the Son was not of any created, or mutable Sub- liance, but ftridtly \Divine\ and \o clofely and nearly aUied to the Father's Perfon (lu a myfterious way above Comprehenfion) that che Subflance of the Sod aiight be juftly called the 38o ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXV. the Father's Subftance, Both being One. And this is all that ever any fober Catholick meant by Individual, or Numerically as I have often pbferved. Is not this fufflcient to urge againfl: Dr. Clarke and You, who make the Son of an in- ferior Subftance, differing entirely in kind from the Father's; in iliort, d. Creature, tho' you care not to fpeak it in broad Terms ? This is what you have not lb much as one Catho- tick Toft Nicene, or Ante-Nicene Writer to countenance you plainly in. The main of your Dodrine, the very Points wherein your Scheme is contained, and on which it turns, and which diftinguifh you from the prefent Orthodox, fland condemn'd by all Antiquity. Do you imagine, ail This is to be turn'd off, only by equivocating upon the word, Numerical^ or by throwing out the Term Scholaftick, to make \yeak Perfbns believe, that we have borrowed our Dodrine from the School-men only ? No : We know, and you may know, if you pleafe to examine, that, as to the main pf ourDocSbrine of the Blcfled Trinity, we have the Univerftl Church, as high as any Records reach, con- curring wfth us. To Them we appeal , as well as to the Scriptures > that, together with Scripture, we may be the more fecure that wq follow the true Interpretation. I need not go on to prove that the primitive Writers afferted the Confuhftantiality , becaufe you have not- denied ic ii> ^he Senfe i intended ; aM indeed- could Q^u.XXV. of fime QUERIES, 381 could not. Your flipping a Woi-d upon us^ and Hiding off to another Point, may be taken for a Confc/Tion and Acknowledgement, that the ^tcry was juft; and lliould have been an- fwer'd in the Affirmative , could your Caufe have fubfifted, atter lo large and frank a Confef- fion. As to Creeds, you iay, 7iOfie of theThre^ frfl Centuries exfrefs the ^lerijfs Notion : meaning your ow^n Notion of Individual, which is not ^Q^ierijt's, What follows (/. 118.) is (till purluing the lame miftake. Since you hivg told us, that there is no proof of Individual Confubftantiality (that is, oi perfonal Identity^ as you underftand it, and in which Senfe nd Body oppofes you) it vi^ould have been fair and ingenuous to have own'd that- the Fathers did unanimoufly hold a Conjubjiantiality , in fom^ Senfe or other. If not Numerical, or Individ dual, in the (Iridteft Senfe, was it^ think you^ Specifick ? Yet, if fo^ it will follow that all the Fathers were diredly oppofite to rheDodof and you ; and condemn'd your Notion of thd Son's being Inferior in Kind, Nature, Sub^ fiance, &c. Specifick Unity implies Equality of Nature ; as two Men, fpecifically one with each other, are in Nature equal ; and fo, any other tw^o Things of the fame fi)rt and kind. This Notion, if it were all that the Fathers held, You might charge with TV/VZ?^//?/^; And^ at the fame Time, you mufl: give Them all up, as no way favourable to your Hj^othejis, But the Fathers conftantJy rook care to ilgnify that 38i A DEFENSE Q^u.XXV. that they did not mean that the Terfons were fpectfically one, hke three Human Perlons hav- ing a feparate Exiftence independent of each other: Nor would They allow Three Stms ^ which would be fpecifically one, to be a pro- per or fuitable llluftration ; but the Rays of the iame Sun, the Streams of the lame Fountain, and the like; all to intimate a much cloier Tie, a more fiibjlanttal Union than Specifick a- mounts to. The Terfons, the Hyp oft afes, were Three ; and yet una Sitbftantia, as TertuUtan exprcfles it, in all. You would perfwade us (finding I fup- pofe that either Jpectfick or individual Con- lubllantiality would be equally againft you) I fay, you would perfwade us, that it was forae Oratorical and Figurative Conlubftantiality , which the Fathers meant. This I apprehend from what you drop in Page iir, where you exprefly apply this new Solution to the diffi- culty arifing from 'O/^oJo-i©- in the Nicene- Creed. I will not fufFer the Engliflo Reader to go away with this groundiefs Notion, inftead of a jufl: Anfwer. Such as know any thing of Antiquity, do not want to have fuch Pretences confuted : Such as do not, may pleafe to take along with Them thefe foUovving Confidera- Cions. I. The Doctrine oi x\\zConfubftantiatlty ap- pears to have been a conftant fettled Thing ; a fort of ruled Cale, running thro' all in general. Strange, that They fhould all PJjetoricate in a Mat^ Q^u.XXV. of fome Q^UERIES, 383 Matter of Faith, of fb great Weight and Impor'- tance ; and that we fliould not meet with fo much as one grave fobcr Writer, to ftrip the Matter of all Flouriili and Varnilli, and to tell us the naked Truth. z. It is to be oblerved that the Notion docs not occur only in popular Harangues, but in dry Debates, chiefly in Controverfy with He- rd icks ; where it concerned the Catbolicks to fpeak accurately and properly, and to deliver their Sentiments very diftindly. 3. This is farther confirnVd from the Ob- jections made by Hereticks to the Catholtck Dodrine; There were Two (landing Objedions made by Hereticks to the Catholtck Dod:rine : One was, that it inferred a "Divijion of the Fa- ther's Subftance : The other that it was Tri- thetfin. We find footfteps of the former, as early as ^ Jtiftin Martyr. We meet with it in ^ Terttillian, as urged by Traxeas. ^ Tatian and ^ Theophilus Both allude to it. ^ Sabcll'ins was full of it ; and it was afterwards, one of the chiefeft Pretences of Arins ; as may ap- pear from his own Letters, befides many ^ other Evidences. Now, what colour or pretence could there have been for the Objedion, had not the Catholicks profefs'd a proper Commu- nication of the fame Subftance .? Need wc be a Dial. p. i S3. 373. Jcb. £ee Bull D. F. p. 66,67. and p. 33. b Contr. Prax. c 8. c Tat. p. 21. Ed. Worth, d Theoph, 1. 2. p. 12 p. e A]exan/- theifm the Sabellians meant (Tritheifm in the highefl: and ftridteft Senfe) appears, not only from the former Objedion about the divifion of the Father's Subftance, but alio, from the way they took to folve the difficulty: Namely^ by making Father, Son, and Holy-Ghoft one and the fame Hyfojiafls, as well as one Sub- fiance-^ and their thinking it not beneath the Father Himfelf to have lubmitted to TaJJlon. This makes it extremely probable that the Church, at that Time, behev'd the three Peribns to be Confubjtajitial in a proper, not Figura- tive, Senie ; in Confequence whereof, it was pretended that there would be three Gods ; in like manner as three Human Perfons of the iamQ fpecifick Nature, are three Men. 4. What puts this farther beyond all reafon- able doubt, is the method which the Catho" licks took to anfwer the Two fore-mention'd Objcdions. As to That about T>ivifion of Sub^ Q^u.XXV. of fome QUERIES. 38^ Suhjtance\ They never tell i\\tHereticks,i\\2Z there was no manner of Ground or Colour for the Objedion: They never fay. that the fame difficulty would lie againfl: God's creating An- gels, or Archangels, or any other Creature i as They might, and iliould have done, had They been of Dr. Clarke's Principles, or of Your's. No : * They only deny any TDiviJiou or Diminution of the Father's Subftance, and illuftratc, as well as They are able, lb fublime a myftery, by one Light kindling, as it were, from Another ; by the Sun and it's Rays ; by Fountain and Streams \ Stock and Branch: All Inftances of the fame fpecifick Nature, and f anfwering in fomeCircumftances, tho'defedivel in others. One would not defire a fuller and clearer Teftimony, that thofe, or the like Simi- litudes were intended to fignify the fame with a proper Confubftantiality , than we meet with in T>ionyfius of Alexandria \, Then, for their Anfwers to the charge of Tritheifm, as underftood by the Sabellians ^ how ealy would it liave been for Them to have told the Objedors, that They did not take the word God in the ftrid Scnfe; that Mofes and other mortal Men had been called Gods; that They believed the Son to be no * Juft. M. Dial. p. 185. ^7:?. Tat. p. 21, ii. Athenag:. p. 40. 95. Origen. Pamph. Apol. TertuH, Apoi. c. 21. adv. Prax- c. 8* Theognoft. apud Athanaf. Vol. i. p. ijo. Hippolyc. Con:r. Noer* c. II. p. 13. Dionyf. Aiexand. Refp. ad Qua:ii. /. t Sfe Bull. D, F. p. I to. ± Apud Athmaf. de Sentent. Dionyf. Tom. i, p. 275". 25-6. C c more 386 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXV. more than a Creature, tho' the mofl pcrfedt of all Creatures ; and that the Sabellians did Them a very great and manifeft Injury, to imagine otherwife of Them. This would, this mud have been their Anfvver to the charge of Tri- iheifm as qnderflood by the Objedors; had They not otherwife learned Chrijt. Inftead of this. They appear to be very fenfible of the ju{i Weight and Importance of the Obje- ction. They mud fccure the T>ivmity of the Son, and yet prefcrve the Unity too. They have recourfe to Uuity of Subjlance (even a- gainftThofe who made one Stibftance to fignify one Hy^oflafls) as Tertullian frequently does, in his diJpute with Traxeas: And notwith- ipianding that the Sabellians had, if I may fo ip.eak, carried the Son's T)ivinity too high, in foniuch as to make Him the very fame Hypo- Jiajis with the Father ; yet the utmoft that the Catholicks could be brought to fay, in "Degra- dation of Him, was only this ; that He was fiibordinate as a Son ; equal in every refped:, bur, as 2^ Son can be equal to 2l Father -, inferior in point of Original (the Father being Head and Fountain of all) but ftill of the fame Na- ture, Power, Subftance, and Perfections ; liib- fifting in, and from the Father, infeparably and conftantly, always and every where ; and there- fore one God with Him. And if any Perfon, tho' in the warmth of Dilpute, did but happen to drop any doubtful ExpreiTions, tending any w^ay to klTen the Dignity of the Son, or was but Q^u.XXV. of form Q^UERIES. 387 but fufpcdcd to do ib ; the Alarm was fbon taken, and it awaken'd the Jealouiy of the Cd- tbollcks\ who could not bear any Appearance of it. This was remarkably ieen, in the fa- mous Cafe of TDionyfins, Biihop oi Alexandria^ Sixty Years before the riie oi Arms, and is re- corded by Athanajiiis in his Works, 5*. To this we may add, that while the Sa- bellian Controverfy was on Foot (which was at Icaft ICO Years, and could never have laded fo long, had the Catholicks been of any other Principles, than Thofc which I here maintain) I fay, while this was on Foot, how eafy would II have been for the Catholicks to have pinch'd Them clofe, and to have prefs'd Them with variety of Arguments, more than They did, had They been of your Principles, or of Dr, Clarke'^ ? The Father is eternal, but the Soa not ^o ; the Father is omnifcient, bur the Son Ignorant of the Day of Judgment ; the Father is oranipotent, bur the Pov/ers of the Son finite and hmited; in a word, the Father is Cr^^j:^^r, but the Son a Creature \ and therefore They cannot be One and the fame Hypofiafis, or St^-p^^fi^'^'^" This Argument had been irrefragable, and could not have failed of being urged and prefs'd Home, by Men of fuch acute Parts, as TertuUian^ Origen, HiPpolytus, and Others, had it becri confiftcnt wirh Catholick Principles ; or had They not believed, that the Son was CGnJiib- ftantial, in the proper Senfe, enjoying all the ^//>;//^/^/ Perfections of the Father, in coramoil with Him. C c i x. Ic 388 ^DEFENSE Qjj.XXV, 6. It would be endlefs almofl: to proceed in this Argument : The reft I fliall throw into a narrow Compafs, and only give Hints for your Icifure Thoughts to inquire into. The ilridl Senfe which theAntients had of the word God, as fignifying Sttbftance, and applying it to the Son, in the lame Senie; their admitting but one Subftance to be ftricSly Divine, and their utter Abhorrence of any inferior Deities; their ap- propriating Worlliip to the one true God, and vvorlhiping the Son notwithftanding; their un- animous Behef of the Son's being eternal, nn^ created, omnipotent, and of his being Creator, Preferver, and Suftainer of the Univerfe : Any one of thefe, fmgly almoft, would be fufficient for the proof of z prefer Omfttbft ajitialtty , as afferted by thQ^nte-Nicene CathoHck Writers: But all together, and taken with the other Par- ticulars before mention'd, They make io full, fo clear, lb ample a Demonftration of a Matter of Fad:, that a Man muft be of a very peculiar Conftitution, who, after having well confidered the Evidences, can make the leaft doubt or fcruple of it. And this I hope may be fuffi- cient in anfwer to your Pretence of an Orato- rical or Figurative Confubflanriality ; a Pre- tence, which you lay down with an unufual Diffidence; and without fo much as one Rea- fon, or Authority, to fupport it. It being evident, from what hath been faid, that it was a f roper, not figurative, Conlub- itantiality, w^hich the Ante-NiceriR Fathers in- violably Q^u.XXVI. of fo7ne (QUERIES. 389 violably maintain'd ; This is all I am concern'd for. As to the Qncflion, whether it ihali be call- ed Speclfick, or Numerical, I am in no pain a- boLit it. Neither of the Names exaftly fuits it; nor perhaps any other we can think on. It is fuch a Conjiihjiantiality as prefcrves thcUuity, without deftroying the dijltnci Terfonality -^ fuch as neither Sabellians nor Arians w^ould come into, but the Catholicks maintain'd, with equal Vigour, againlT: Both. It is a Medium to preferve ihcTriority of the Father, and withal the T>'ivinity, the ejfential Divinity, of Sou 2ini Holy-Ghoji : In a word; it is i:he fober, middle way, between the Extravagancies of Both Extremes, Q^ U E R Y XXVI. Whether the T)ofior did not equivocate or prevaricate firangely , in Jaying, * The Generality of Writers before the Council of Nice, were, in the whole, clearly ci; his Side: When it is manifejl. They were, in the general, no farther on his Side, than the allowing a Subordination amounts to ; no farther than our own Church is on his Side, while in the main points of dijfe- rence , The Eternity and Consubstan- TiALiTY, They are clearly againji Him ? That is, They were on his Side, Jo far as t ^nfrp, to Dr. Wells, pag. i3. C c 5 "^^ 390 ^DEFENSE CLu.XXVf. we acknoisjledge Him to be right, but na farther, IN Defence of the Dodor, you appeal to his very numeroits, and, as you {di^, plain Quo- tations from the antient Authors. And this, you promife before-hand, will be made further evident to all learned and unprejudiced Per- Ibns, as loon as Dr. 14^ hit by s Obfervations on Bijhop Bull's Defenf. Fid. Nic. appear in the World, As to the Doctor's pretended plain Quotations, from the ancient Authors, They have not plainly, nor at all determined againft the Co- eternity and Confubftantiality of the Son , the Toints in ^lejtion ; and there- fore can do the Dodor no Service : Bur, on the contrary j the Ante-Nicene Writers, in general, have determin'd plainly againft Him, as to the main of his Dodrine, wherein He differs from us. In afTerting which, I fay no more than the great Athanafius told the Arians long ago, and ic is Fad, that all the Writers before Them, of any Repute or Judg- ment, were diredly againft Them. *' * We give ** you Demonftration, fays He, that our Do- '' drine has been handed down to us from Fa- •* thers to Fathers. But You, Ye Revivers of '' Judaifm and Difciples of Caiphas, what *' Writers can you bring to Father your Tenets? *' Not a Man can you name, of any repute for '* Senfe or Judgment. All to a Man are againft * Athanaf. dc Decret. Syn. Nic. p. 23 3[, "' ' ■ you Qu.XXVI. of fome (QUERIES. 391 yon, ^c. To the fame purpbfe fpeaks St. An- jiin, in a ftudied Difcourfe, which may be lUp- pofed to contain his cooled and 1110ft ierioUs Tnoiights. *' * All the Carholick Interpreters ** of the Old or New Teftament. that 1 could *' read, who have wrote before me on the *' Trinity, which is God, intended to teach, " conformable to Scripture, that Father, Son, *' and Holy-Ghoft do, by the infeparable '* Equality of one and the fame Subftahce, " make up the Unity divine. Here yoii may obferve the Summ of the f Catholick Dodrine. The fame Homogeneous Subjlance ; and In fepar ability. The firft makes each Hy- poftafis, res divina ; the laft makes all to be una Stibftantia, una Summa res, one nndi- vided, or individual, or numerical Subftance ; one God. This is the Antient Catholick Do- drine ; and, I think, of the Schools too ; tho' the School-men have perplexed it with innumer- able Subtilties. Hilary exprefles it briefly thus, * Omnes> quos Icgcre potui, qui ante me Scripferunt de Trini- tate, qu32 eft Deus, divinorum librorum Veterum & Novorum Ca- thoiici Tra6latores hoc inrcndcvunt fccundum' Scriptui'as d"6cere, quod Pater, h. Filius, &: Spiritas San Infiances only out of many. Melito apud Cav. Hid. Lir. VoK 2. p. 5;. Grabe Spicileg. Vol. 2. p. 24.5'. Kippolyt. Vol. i. p. 226. Vol. 2. p. 24, Origen ContF. Cclf. p. 342.404. Cy/ill. Hieroibl. Gatech. 11. p. 142. Cyril. Alexo Thcfaur. p. 232. Dial. i. de Trin. p. 40J. Damafc- de Orth. Fid. I. 3. c. 11. N, B. There is^ in Jirictnefsy fome difference betr^en ro B-iToy^ and $-?0Ti5? {tho' They are often ufed for each other) (uch nearly as be- tiHe^i Concrete, and Abftraft ; but fiill S-sctjjs refers to Nature and SubftarKC (as 0i«; alfo generally does) not Dominion. Abftra<5i: Names of Subflances are not very cotnmon indeed^ ( See Lock H. V. I J. c. Br) bt:t hire- tker^ was n neceffty for if. 7. 7hat Q^u.XXVI. of fome (QUERIES. 39 jT 7. That Father and So7i {or any tv:o Ver- fons) ought not to be called one God. I have refcrr'd to the ^;//t'-A^/V^//^ Writers, who fo call- ed Them, more than once. Some of the Tcfti- monies may be fcen at large in Dr. Fiddes. 8 . That the Title of God, in Scripture, in an abfiltUe ConJiruBion, alisjoys fignifies the Fa- ther. Biredly contrary to the Scream of Anti- quity ; as may appear, befides other Arguments^ from their Application of Scripture Texts, of the Old Teftament, in which God is Ipokcn of abfolutely, to the Son. 9. That an Inferior God may be admitted befides the Supreme, and JForJhip paid to Both. Nothing can ftrike more at the very Fundamentals of Religion than this Pofition, in the Judgment of the Antients in general. 10. That the Son is not efficient Caufe of the1)ni'verfe, and of all created Beings. This I take to be contrary to all the Antients. Sec the Teftimonies above *. 11. That the SonHimfelfis made or created. This neither You nor the Dodlor admit in Terms ; but in reality, and in other 'Ujords, you Both do; as hath been ihown. This Po- rtion is flatly contrary to the Dodrine of the Antients. The Teflimonies have been referr'd to above. There are other Particulars, which I may at prefent forget, or which may lefs dc- ferve notice. Theie are enough to Ihow that the Doctor's Pretences to the Ante-Nicene Fa- thers, are groundlefs^ *Qu!!. What 396 ^DEFENSE C^u.XXVI. What then has the Dodor to plead for Him- felf, and for his lo great AfTurance in this Par- ticular? Firfl:, That ih^ Ante-Nicejie (as did a!(b the 7oJi-Nicene) Fathers allowed a Subor- dination'^ which is very true, but not at all pertinent; nor can any Confequence be cer- tainly drawn from it, in favour of the Doctor's HypotheJis\ which Pie himiclf feems to be aware of. as I have remarked above *. Another Thing is, that the Ante-Ricene Writers, fome of Them, fpoke of a Temporal Generation by the Will of the Father, which 1 have account- ed for in my former Pages. And a third Thing is, that the generality of the Antients, when They fpeak of God abfolutely, ordinarily mean the Father, and They diftinguilli His Perfon by fome eminent Titles, and peculiar Appella- tions : which may be eafily accounted for. Can thefe Three Confiderations, or if there be more fuch, be ground fufficient for the Do- ctor to lay, that the generality of the Ante- Nicene Writers are clearly on his fide, w^hen They exprefly contradid: Him in fo many Par- ticulars as I have mention'd ; feveral of Them e[fentials of IWs Hy pot he/Is? The mofl: that in Truth can, or in Jaftice ought to be faid, is, that, in fome Particulars, They feem to favour Him ; but could not really mean it ; unlefs They notorioufly contradided Themfclves. The very utmoft which the mod fanguine Man of your fide ihould hope for, is, that the Fa- thers may be found Contradidory to one ano- ♦ Pag, 303. ther, Q^u.XXVI. of fome (QUERIES. 397 ther, or to Themfelves, in order to null their Evidence. If They arc confiftcnr, They are our's certainly. And this Difference there is plainly between us, and you : That, as to your Principles, the Fathers are cxprefs, clear, and full againft Them ; no poflibiliry of reconciling Them together: As to our's. They are no where diredly and exprefly againft us; If They arc at all againft us, it is only indireBly, and muft be made out by Inference, T)edu6iioj7^ and remote Confequences, neither clear, nor certain. They may be reconciled to our Trin- cities, to Themfelves, and to one Another : But, as to any confiftent Agreement with your's, ic is utterly imprafticable. Now, fuppofing the Dodor ever fo ftrongly to believe that the Ante-Nkene Writers, in general, held Principles which neceflarily in- fer and imply his Conclufion; yet we infift upon it, that They ought not to be judged of from any oMcure Confequences which the Dodlor draws for Them , ao;ainft what Thev drew for Themfelves. If we once take the Li- berty of denominating, fbrting, or ranking of Men with any fide, not according to what them- felves profefs'd, but accordti>g to what fome ima- gine, in Reafon and good Confeqnence, They ought to have profefs'd, we may call Trot ef ants, Tapifts\ Arminians , Calvhiifls\ Orthodox, Hereticks\ and what not. There are fome com- mon Principles which all Mankind agree in ; and the fcveral Differences and Diftindions amcngft 398 ^DEFENSE Qu.XXYL aniongfl: them arife only from their drawing Conlequences differently ; and it is this that gives Them their particular and fpecial Dcno* mination. Now fince it is evident and vifible, as the Light, that the ^nte-Nicene Writers did not own the Confequences which the Dodor makes for them, but exprefly and clearly re- jeded them ; conftantly affirming the Eternity and Conftibjtantiality of the Son (the very points of Difl^erence between Us and the Dodor) it is plain and obvious to common Senle, that the Dodor has no juft claim or title to Them, but that We have : They were, in the main points, clearly on our fide (confident, or not confident, is not now the Qiieftion) and as clearly againft Him. It is to no purpofe to plead, in this Cale, that Tremifes only are of any Weight, and that Concltifions always (land for nothing. This may be allowed in Argumcfitation \ but not in determining on what fide any Perfon, or any Body of Men were in this particular Quc- ftion ; whether luch Concltifions follow front fuch Tremifes. In this, the Ante-Nicene Wri- ters were directly, and plainly^ Anti-Arian ; and therefore it is a great Abuie of Language, and as great an Injury to Them and to the Truth, for the Dod:or to fay that They were, in the "isjldole, clearly on his fide. But you had promifed the Vv'orld great Mat- ters from a Book of Dr. fVhithys, which has fince fecn the Light ; and 1 am therefore obliged to fay ibmething to it, tho' othcrwifc I tiould much Q,u.XXVI. of fome (QUERIES. 39;^ much rather wave ir ; bccaufe it is wrote only to Scholars, with whom it can do no harm \ and becaufe, I beheve. you arc icnfibic, before this Time, how uncaucious a Thing it is to pro- mile in the Dark ; and to be Sponfor for ano* ther's Performance, ^o long before-hand. Dr. Whitby is one that has done good Service to the Church, and to the learned World; and one would be willing to throw a Veil over his late mifcondu(5t in this Controverfy, did not the imprudent Triumphs of others oblige us to take fome notice of ir. But let us come to the Point: I lliall fliow you, in Ibme fliorc Strictures upon the Performance, how little you are to hope for from it; and how far it comes ihort of Expedation. I'll divide what I have to fay into two Kinds of 01>lervations> I. Upon general Fallacies, running thro' the whole Book, z. Upon particular Defeds, Mifquotations, Mifconflrudlions, Mifreprefentations, ^c. His principal, and moll general Fallacy, is his making Ejfeuce :kndiTer/on to fignify the lame. One individual 01 7iU7nericalYJSzxiZZ, He every where interprets to a Sabelliait Senle; under- Handing by it one individual Hypoflafis, or real Perfon. And this ridiculous Senle Hs fixes upon * All that now pafs for Orthodox ; and, I think too, upon the generality of Thofe who have* been reputed Catholicks down from the * Prxf. p. 3*, Council 40O ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXVL Council of Nice: For He ^ charges Athanafius Hiraielf with it ; who has been generally look'd upon as the Standard of Orthodoxy, in this Ar- ticle. The Charge is weak, and groundlefs, and more efpecially in regard to Biihop Bull\ who is ^ known to have declared Himfelfagainft it, as frequently, as ftrongly , and as fully ; as it was pofTible for a Man to do. The learned Examiner, tho' ^ He leems to have known this, is forced to ^ pretend Ignorance, to give the better colour to what He was going about. For, otherwife, who would not, at firfl: fight, obfcrve the peculiar Extravagance of the un- dertaking, to confute Billiop Btill^ only by lliowing that the Billiop has not proved what He never intended to prove, nor fo much as believed, but rejcd:ed as heartily as the learned Examiner Himfelf can do. However, fince this was, in a manner, neceflary, that the learned Examiner xx\\^\x. appear at leaft to have {bmething to fay, all due Allowances are to be made for it. Let us now oblerve how in the a Prapf. p ?i« b / P'^ull here only ate one Vaffags of B'ljlyop Bull, [peaking of Sandiusi vohofe fieps Dr. Whitby has too clofely folloroed, Au6lor llle, ubique in Libro fuo illud pro certo & rato habet Homoujianorum, quos vocat, 6c Sabellianorum de Filio Dei Sen- tentiam prorius eandcm elle. Quo nihil a vero rcmotius eftj Siquidem fupra cl.ire oflendimus , Ncminem Dei Filium Patri jitm>ir,ov polTe dicere, niii abfurdc admodum Sc improprie, qui cum Siibellio fentiat D. F. N. p. 148. See al/o D. F. p. i;o. Animadv. in Gilb. Clarke, p. IC04. c See Modeft. Oifqiiifit. p. IO7. where He charges Lifiop Bull withholding a Specifick Unity ^ and Vrxi. ?•;?*• d Prxf. p* 31' Entrance Q^u.XXVI. of fome Q^UEPvIES, 401 Entrance, He is plcafcd to (late the general Queftion. ** * Whether All the Ante-Nkcne Fathers •' profefs'd the very fame Dodrine which IV c *• afcribe to the iV/V^^;/^ Council; That is, whe- ** ther All acknowledged the fame Numerical " Edence of the Father to have been com- '* ;;^/////Vt2/^^^ to the Son and Holy-GIioft, and *' that therefore Both are one God in Number ** with the Father. See how many Guards He has put in ; as in were Conlcious of what He had taken in hand, and fearing left otherwife there fliould not be left Him ftrength fufficient to fecure a hand- fome Retreat. He does not fay, the Genera- lity of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, but All\ lb that if there happens to be but one Exception, He may dill be iafe and fecure. Nexr, He does not fay the Dc(3:rine of the Nicene Council, but which /^i? afcribe to that Council : New, who can tell w^hat We He means? Perhaps Himfelf and Two or Three more. Then again, fame Ejfence will not fcrve, but it muft be the fame 7iiimerical Effence : And this He intcr-^ prets, every w^here throughout his Book, in a Sabellian Senfe. So here the State of the ^teftion is intirely changed; And unlefs the Biiliop has proved (which God forbid) that All ♦ Utrum Patres Omnes Anie-Nicsni Eandem Quam Concilio N/ri»(7»TRiBuiMus fcnrentiani amplexi funt j hoc efl:, utrum omncs Ea:.dem Numero Patris Ellentiam Filio £c Spiritui Sanclo fuifTs CoMMUNiCATAM, coquc nominc utrumque cum Patre Unnm Na- roero Deum e(Tc at^aoveruni: ? Proem, p. 2- D d .the 401 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXVI. the Ante-Nicene Fathers were Hereticks and fomerhmg worfe, profefling what Themlelves condemn'd asHerely,He has not, it fecms,done enough to iatisfy the learned Examiner. Not Content with this. He demands farther to have it proved that this fame tmmerkal Eflence, that is (according to Him) Terfon, was com^ mun'icated to Two other '^Perfons : And He has fome pretence for cavil at the word * Communicated. Yet, as if all this were not lufficicnt, it mull be alfo by interior Tro- duEiion ; as He obferves a little after in pag. i. and He has fome Turns of Wit upon the word f TroduBion. Was this the way to anfwer fuch a Writer as Biiliop Bull, a wife, grave, learned, judicious Author, and One that was above Trifling? In ihort, the plain Quedion between Bilhopi Bull and the Arians is only this : Whethert iht Ante Nicene Fathers, in general, believed^ the Son to be of an eternal, uncreated, im- mutable, and ftridly divine Subftance, or no ? Biihop Bull maintain'd the ^affirmative , and has unanfwerably proved \x., in the opinion of moft Men of true Learning and Judgment, whe-^ ther Here, or Abroad. This is what the learned Examiner fnould neither have concealed, nor difguis'd; but have frankly and honeftly con- feis'd, as He did [^formerly. If, notvvithllanding* * Prasf. pag. ai. t ^^^^i- P- ig' t Opus aggrcdior quod Bullus nollras, Pictate Summa 8c Ddctrina Vir fit^^d.U'.^'j, stque in Anritjuitatis roiius Scriptis \'v.'riatur. 143.) the remainder I have here ki down, in the ^ Margin. Afrcr giving a Conftrudion diametrically cppofite to the Intent and Letter of the Author, He breaks out into this Expref- ilcn; d See how He (Methodius) manifejily ytysuv^fcei, «rs, otj * known to have bad very abfurd Notions of the Deity, fuppo- fingGod to have had 2l Beginning, and to have made Him/elf. Dr. Cave could never mean that LaBantius had 'Oyac'vP;^(pou$ Complures , many of his mind, in this Article: And there- fore could not intend, in qnihtis, ftridily, of every Particular, but of the whole, and in the general. Then, as to Dr. C^x^e-'s Judgment of the Senfe of the Fathers, in relped: to the Di- vinity ^^of: the Son, and his eternal Ex illence, it is To f well known, and fo ofcen appears in his Writings, that He fliould not be prefumed to contradi(S his declared and repeated Senti- fgnents, without a manifeft necefiiry. ¥/here- 7>^--*Xa#nt. Inftitut. \ f. c 7. . __ . ■f San6i:i Parres Carholicse Fidei NicEenorumqueDogmatum Tefles funt inconcufT., Vjndices acerrimi'i qui Fidem ab Apoftolis tradi- tam, a Majonbus acceptam, ad nos ufque propagarunr, acccptam Vita, Voce, etiam Sanguine fuo confiriDarunt, invictifque Argu^ mentis contra omnia Haercticorum moliniina fartam teiftam con- fervarunti quique nullis Sophifmatibus fledi qucunt, ut in Urn- variorum cauiam Teftimonium dicant. Hinc illae Lachrymae, Hsec Fundi calaniitas. Adcc ut de Antiquitate Ecclefiaftica dici pote(|, quod de ka.'ione alicubi. habet Malmsburienfis Philoibphus i uBi- carique R^tio Homini repugnatj Hqipiaan, jpfi Rationi repugna- fore C^u.XXVL of fome Q^UERIES. 409 fore DvJVhitby does a great Injury to the Me- mory of that good Man, by taking an Advan- lage of an ambiguous Exprefiion. To pro- i:ced. , Pag. 60. He tells us, that the Titles of? -mv- STdi TTDtj^TJi^, and T oXoiv hjxiypyU (that is, Creator :&nd Framer of the Univerfe) were (uch as the Writers of that Age (the Second Century) al- ways diftinguiih'd the Father from the Son by. \i He means that the Son had not then thcie gor the like Titles given Him, it is a notori- ^ous Untruth (as you may lee by the Quorari- ons * above from Irenaus and Clemens Alex an- driniis) If He means only, that Thofe and the iJike Titles were eminently and ernphatically e?given to the Father, That indeed is very true ^^ of the Second Century; and as true of all the Centuries following, down to this prefent, as appears by our Creeds ; which, I fuppofe, is no great Difcovery. In his Preface, (P. n ) He mifreprefents^^^^ fil as declaring againft Unity oi E [fence, where the good Father intended nothing but againlt Unity of Terfon. In the lame Page, He brings jjn \ylthanajius, and interprets what He iaid -I' againft the o^oiyjiov, as if it had been meant of the ir - * Qu. 9. p. 189. t Vid. Athanaf. Tom. i. p. 767. Compare Tom. i. p. ;r. Athanafius dijUnguiJh'd very particular:^, more than Hilary and foim other 'Bathers clui> hettveen the ht/joka-.ai and the o^.ac^oy. He thought that to fay the Sen was only like God, was as much as dcny- mj^ Htm to he God : As if we jJjould fay a thing is only like Silver, therefore not Silver j or only l;lie' Goldy therefore not Gold. This was bU Senfi tf the Mattsr. 4io ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXVI. J/to8(Tfov, betwixt which, that accqrate Father al- ways carefully diflinguifli'd. A little lower, He reprefents Athanafiiis as maintaining mime- rical Identity; which (in the Senfe of the learned Examiner) is making Him a Sabellian, Thus, it feems, He is to confute Biftiop Bull, only by puzzling and confounding iuch Things^ ^s that incomparable Prelate had made plain gnd clear. Pag. 9. He reprefents Barnabas^ Epiflle, c^ yo^oi?, which He interprets iy^//r/^//j" (/. 19.^ ncgledling and concealing in what Senfe * Eti- febitis had reckoned it ci Fo3-oi$; and what had been faid by very | learned Men in defence pf it. Pag. 13. He gives a partial Account of the Antient T>oxologtes, No one that has feen St. BafiK the eighth Book of the Clementine Conftitutions, Tolycarfs Doxology, and the Church of SmyTna's, befides Clement of j4le- xandrids, and Hi-pfolytus's, can make any rea- fonable doubt, whether to or with, were not- appiied in T)oxologies to the So7t or Holy-^ Ghc^, as well as by, through, or in, by the ^arlieft Ante-Nicene Writers. To pretend A- thanajian Forgeries in anfwer to all, is only giving up the point, with the ridiculous Cir-, cumftance of appearing to maintain it. >mil His Account of Jujlin Martyr is one con- tinued Mifreprefentation,as rnay appear in fome ♦ Sot Cave Hiftor. Literar. Vol. I. p. ii. t Pearfon Yindic. p, 276. 282. Bull D.F. p. i;*. Fr.Trad. p. 5. Me^- Qy.XXYh of fome (QUERIES. 411 Mcalurc, by comparing it with what hath been obfervcd in thefe Papers. Pag. 61. He takes occafion from the Lat'tiz Verfion to mifreprefent Athenagoras, and to infinuarc that the Son is not like rhc Father, If the Greek words be rendered, as They fignify-, InfeEii, & Fa£iu the Equivocation upon Ge- mttts, and therewith the Argument is Joft. Pag. 62. He undertakes another PafTage in Athenagoras, a very famous one, and of fin- gular uie in this Controverfy ; plainly fliowing the true and genuine Senfe of inch Fathers, as fpoke of a Temporal Generation, and being of equal Force both zg^iXxA Sabellians OindArians^ as the * learned Prelate has judicioufly and ad- mirably demonftrated againft Tetavius, San- ditis, and Others. Sand'tus, being fenfible of its Weight and Force, thought it the wiiefl: way to fay, that the place was corrupt ; and being a Man of Wit, He invented fbmething of a Co- Jour for it. Gtlbe'rt Gierke afterwards, thought of a more plaufible Solution of the difficulty; but the learned | Bifliop had too much Acu- mtft to let it pafs. Laft of all comes Dr. Whitby with a new Device, which, I fuppofc, \^ in- rirely his own. You fee the Paflage in the X Margin. The words iix ^'^ yivcjuevov, He con- ftrues thus : Nof as eternally generated, as if * Bull. Def. F. N. p. 204. icf. t Sec Bull. Animadv. in Gilo. CI. Op. Port-, p. lofz. lO'^^. Atherl. Leg. c ID. p. 38. He 4i> ^iDr j:;JFr£.N S E Qjj.XXVI. H^ had re^^d y^m^tiiof ^ fupplying otiliV by Imagination. The Senfe and Meaning of the WQ^^t%^'y^volJt^yov, fignifying made, or created, is fo fix'd and certain in this Author, that no doubt or Icruplc can be reafonably made of it. And that He intended to fignify the Son's tm- mutable^ eternal, necejfar^ Exiftence, in this PafTage, is fb raanifeft, that a Man muft be of a pecuHar Complexion that can fo much as queftion it ; efpecially confidering the other high Things faid of the Son, by this Author, in other Places; fome of which have been above cited. I mention nor how the learned E^xar/piuer endeavors to elude Them ; putting ^ff one with a jeft {p. 60.) pretending an /;/- percolation for another {p.6i.) and for fear all iliould not fufBce, retreating at length to his Qtiibble upon the word. Numerical. Pag, ic8. He makes a ridiculous Reprefen- fation of TertuWrnn, as if that Writer believed two Angels to be as much One, as God the Father and God the Son are. I ihall only I tranfcribe the Paifage, and truft it with the intelligent Reader. c:5V/o4 7 '^£vfl& 02oy ai7« •»;• t5^ 3' TtcMrrx, ^rviyjilc/j. ctdjvviMSV ^ WoiO^oVy eirt TO ov y yrnsntf, aX^a tb y^yi ov •■ - - p. 21, Ta ov o4s<, "jivien^i -n <^^ \%'i'i' VI 71 Tc yivoiOfio^, yjtv ov ^i cjoinvn* p. 67* O" i oiuryj cnxpti, C4; ^ ^ \'7nx.^iv iXiutrsTzcf. p, 207. Invifibilis vifibilis fadrus, & incomprehenJibilis factus compre* henfibi!is,.& impanibilis paflibilis, 8c Verbum Homo. p. io6. t See Irenxus, 1. 3. c. 18. p. z 1 1. Sec alfo the famous F^jf^ge about Quiefccnce, p. 2 1 3. Which pUitJy fuppofes all that was fujfer^ ing and lors> to belong to the Man cdy, all that was high and great to the Ao'vC^, or JDivme Nattir?» Qjj.XXVl offome QUERIES. 41^ the Son, in his higheft Capacity, Ignorant of the "Day of Judgment. Let the Reader fee the * whole PafTage, and compare it with ano- ther, four Chapters lower; and from thenc^ judge of TertulLiau\ meaning. No rcafonable doubt can be made, but that Tcrttillian undef- ftood the Son's being Ignorant, &c. in reipe6t only of his Humanity, as well as He undef- ftood the other Things, mentioned together with it in the fame Paragraph, Such as confider hoW highly Tertullian, ellewhere fpeaks of the Son* making Him one undivided Subftance with th^ Father, can make no queftion of it. Here it will be proper to obviate a difficulty' which may naturally, upon the firft Thoughts^ arife in one's Mind. Why fliould the Catbo- licks fo often urge the Texts relating to Chrift*^ Human Nature onlyj againft the isabelliansl For it may feem that, if They thereby proved Two Hypoffafes, They proved only a T)ivtn^ and a Human Hypofiafis ; and there might ftill be but one Hypofiafis in the Godhead, as the Sabellians pretended ? But it is to be confider*d> that Both Cdtholicks and Sabellians were agreed * Ignorans Sc Ipfe Diem 8c Ko^am Ukimam, Soli Patri notamj difponens Regnum Difcipulis, quomodo Sc fibi difpolitum dicit % Patrei habens Potcftatem Legiones Angelorum poftulandi ad auxi- lium a Patre H veller, Exclamam qttod fe Bens reli^uijj'et, in Patri? manibus Spiritum ponens. Tertull, Adv. Vrax, c. 26. p.fi6. Habes ipium LxcUmantein in Pallione, Dshs Meusy Dens Me-as, lit quid me deieliquifti? — Sed Hasc Vox Cnrnis &c Animx, id eft> Homini":* non Sermonis, ncc Spirims, id eft, non Dei, proptcres emilTa di, uc impaflibilem Deum oftenderer, qui fic Fiiium dere- liqiiit, dum Hominem ejuf tr^diait ia raortco^ TsrHilL adv, ^r^.x, c, iel/ians. They fliowed that the Peribn fpeaking was not the Father, And yet the Peribn who ioake, havmg (as boch Sides allowed) a T>ijme and Human Nature, might fpeak of HiraJelf in different Relpedls; in this, or in that Ca- pacity. Thus, in regard to the Sen's Igno- rance of the ^ay of Judgment, it is mnnifeft that the Father and Son are there fpokcn of, as of Two Perfons ; and One as kno'-jjing, the Other as not kno'duing, tho' only in a certain reiped: One Ignorant in fuch a Capacity, the Oiher not Ignoranr in any Capacity at all, as having never taken Human Nature, and therewith Human Ignorance, into a perfonal Union with Himfclf. Thus far to clear this Point, and to acquit my fclf of a * promife made you fome time ago. I iliall proceed a liitle farther in remarking on your Friend's Performance. It is frequent with Him to bring up old Objedions, neglect- ing and concealing the Bifliop's Anfwers. I fliall give a fev/ Inftances only; that I may not be Tedious. Pag. 17. He pretends that the Bifliop has not fliown, that the Fathers of the Second Cen- tury refolved the Unity into the fame Principle with the Nicene Fathers. Yet the Bifliop jhas * Qu. 7. p. III. See Athanafiiis farther upon the Thing vheraf J have 6een /peaking. Vol. i. p. 16 1^ i Bull. D, F, Sea. 4. c. 4. E e fhownf 4i8 ^^DEFENSE Q^u.XXVD lliown it) and T>x,lVhitby allows as much in, the very next Page ; and has nothing to retread to but the miferable Evafion about IndividiiAl.W Pag. 84. He refers to Bafil, as an Evidence that Gregory Thatimaturgus beheved the Son to be a Creature, This He again repeats in the next Page; and again in his Preface, p. iq> Yet the Fad: is evidently falie ; Bajil Himfelf a full Witnefs on the contrary fide ; and this Bilhop Bull had ^ given notice of, and made clear to aDemonftrarion. When a Writer drains fo hard, to put a falfe Senle upon Another^ there's no uncharitablenefs in beheving, th^ He gives us at lead his O'wn true meaning. - Pag. 87. He revives an old Objedion, which the learned Prelate had ingenuoufly ^ fet forth in its full Force; and given it as full an Anfwef. Your Friend is here plealed to fpeak with great contempt of the Biiliop's Anfwer; for no other reafon, that I can lee, but becaufe He was not able to confute it. Being however refolved to iay fomething, He ftoutly denies a plain Mat- ter of Fad:. oUovofzUy lays He, is never ufed by the Fathers, in the Biiliop's Senfe. Pleafe to turn to the places noted in the ^Margin, and judge whether the Bilhop, or He, be the a Bull. Def F. N. p. 15- j-, \f6, lyj. b Bull. D. F. p. 267. c Tertullian adv. Pra>:. c. i, ?;. CIcm. Alcxandr. p. iSgi' pf/. Tatian c. 8. Ed. Ox. Hippolytus Contr. Noet. p. 12. 15. Valefius had obferved the Thing long ago, aiid rs>iihout any View H Cmttovirfy. Vetus omnis ChriftianorOm Theolog^ia Deo quidem Patri Mo- mort Qjj.XXVL of fome Q^UERIES. 419 more faithful and accurate in this Matter, If any thing farther be wanting in Defence of Bi- iliop Btill^ in this Article, let Him Ipeak for Mimfelf, in another ^ Work, in anfvver to Gil- bert Gierke ; who, it leems, was much ofFend- cd at the olxjovofjiUy grieved, as He weJl might, to fee His mod pompous and plaufible Pre- tences entirely baffled by it. I iliould weary my Reader, and my Self too, if I went on re- marking every Place, where old Obje(5lions are brought up ; and either none, or very flight notice taken of the Anfwers: If you have a mind to compare, you may note lome Pa?,es referred to in * the Margin. I lliall proceed no farther, in this tedious and difagreeable Employ- •1. fiarchiam attribuit^FiIio vero 8c Spiritui Santfto ei^dvofjitiecv, id eft, Adminiftrationem rSc Difpenrationcm, Valef. Not, ad Eu/e6, p.f,6i See alfo p. 90. 25*5 . 3^.d Bull. Pofth. Works, p. io4f, 104(3, 1047, ^-c. * Modeft' D^fiuifii:. . Bull's Def. F. Pag. 27. , Pag. 25-8. 1 20. 70. 29. ■ - ■ 66, 30. ■ "''■■ l6f. 4c. ' 6g, Judic. SO. 217- 6r, ' ■ • 205-. 69. — — — ' ■ 1 1 9. ^4. 1^51,162,15?. 77. ■ ' i6f — 80. III. 125. 82. ' . iiS. 9f. ■ — 16S. 202. 264. 96. ■ ■ 169. 107. 205. I09. 4^- 120. i . . 77. I22. . . 77» 7S. 141. ,-.^ . 261. t69. ■' • 29?. E e X ^ menr 5 410 A DEFENSE du.XXVl. ment ; except it be to obferve to you, one pe- culiar piece of Management, which I leave you ro refled: on. The learned Examiner labours, for * two Pages together, to Ihow that Clemens of Rome was far from fpeaking, or thinking fo highly of our Bleflcd Lord, as St. Tatil did. A little after, (Pag. 19.) He propofes Clemens to us as a very good Interpreter of Scripture ; and commends Him highly, for laying Chrifti- anity before Us in its naked Simplicity. What can we think of this? The beft Conflrudion F can make of it is, that He intended in p. 14,15-^ not St. Tatil Hirafelf, but St. Taiil as now generally underdood : And fo He was to in* fmuate fomething, which was not fit to be ex- prefs'd. But a Man of Art would have con- dudJed better ; would not have difcover'd Him- felf fo foon, but have trufted more to the Saga- city of his Reader. This m.anncr of proceed- ing, in an important Caufc, is what 1 cannot account for. It feems to me, that, if there be not Reafons of Ccnicience obliging a good Man to fpeak out, there are ahvays Reafons of Pru- dence which Hiould make a "wife Man hold his Tongue. You may perceive, by this Time, that Bi* fliop Bull's Book is like to ftand, till fome- thing much more confiderable appears againfl: it. * p. 14,15-. Aliter plane D FanUs lorjuirur:— « Argumento potius efi Clementem dc Chrifto aiirer pbne quam Faulum ihnfATc — magnam fufpicioneci injicit, eadcm CUmc?nem cum Faulo Several Qy.XXVL of fome Q^UERIES. 411 Several atremprs of this kind have been made before ; bat to as little purpofe : And if there be ever fb many more, by ever {o good Hands, I'll venture to lay, They will lucceed no better. The Book will Hand as long as clear Senfc, found Reafoning, and true Learning have any Friends left. The main Subftance of it is not to be confiited ; any more than you can extia- guifli Truth, or put out the Light of the Sun. The Fathers have been tried and are found faithful: What They defended while living. The T>ivinity of our Bleffed Lord, againft the Infuks of Jews, Pagans, and Hereticks ^ They (till maintain in their Works : And their Works will be held m great Efteem, and Ve- neration ; while every weak attempt to blafl: their Credit, will meet with what it juflly de- ferves ; I was going to fay what, but it may iound fevere : I proceed to another Qtiery. E e 3 Q^u E R Y 42-i ^tf E F.E N S E Q^u.XXVlI. ^a^mom an q ^, ^ XX\^^^ (^'" ™^ Whether the learned T^oEior way not reafon- ably be fu^^ofed to fay, the Fathers are on his fide, with the fame meaning and re- ferve as He pretends our Church Forms to favour Him ; that is, povided He may in- terpret as He pleafes, and make them jpeak his Senfe, however Contradi^ory to their own : And whether the true Reafon why He does not care to admit the Tejfimonies of the Fathers as Proofs, may not be, be- caufe They are againft Him? IN Anfwer to this, You tell me, that it con- tains only an invidious Siiggeflion ; not any Argument. The Suggeftion, I do afTure you, is juft, and argumentative too ; and was kind- ly intended towards you ; that you might not take Things implicirely and upon Truft from others, but might examine them firft your Self; and then pafs a Judgment of them. As to the invidious Appearance of it; had I ever intend- ed, or in the leaft thought of making the ^le- vies publick, you might, with a better Grace, have told mc of it. But as I had not the liberty of reviHng my Papers, nor fo much as any pre- viou$ Apprehenfion of your Defign (preluming all along the very contrary, as I reafbnably might) thefe Things confidered, I hope the in- vidious Part youl take to your felf ; the Ar- gument Q^u. XXVII. of fome (QUERIES. 413 gumeiit (for an Jlrgtimeiit it is, in \is^ kind) you may leave to me. It is of fbme moment to us, not only to have the primitive Writers on our fide (as \vc plainly have) but to have them thought fo too. The learned Dodtor has made fome Pretences that way; and they are of Weight with luch Readers, as are not duly apprehenfive of the Dodor's uncommon man- ner of fetting Things off, with great advantage to his Caufe, and as great detriment to Truth. Two Reafons are intimated, in the Query, why his claim to Antiquity ought to have the lels Force with confidering Men: Firft, Becaufe He lays claim to our Church's Forms -^ which every common Reader may fee, are diredly againft Him ; And Secondly. Becaufe, notwith- ^ftanding his appeal to Antiquity, He is wifer Jchan to put the Matter upon that KTue. He ^:Cndeavors to lefTen the Efteem of the Antienrs, all the while that He prefumes They are on his fide: A fure Mark that He fufpedsThem; and M fecuring a Retreat when They fail Him; as they certainly will, whenever ftridly inquired into. I would leave it with any difcerning Man (who cannot examine farther into the Merits of the Caufe) to judge, whether it be at all likely that thofe who Ipeak always con- temptibly of the Antients, and endeavor to the qtmoft to abufe and expofe Them, can reafon- ably be prciiimed to have a greater Inrereft in Them, than They who Ipeak honourably and handfomly of Them ; w^ho defend their Chara- E e 4 der. 414 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXVII. iter, and have, as it were, an affecftionare Tendernefs and C6ncerd for Them. Thus much for the fecond Reafon intimated in the ^lery. As to the firfl: Reafon fuggeftcd, the Import of it is this. If the learned Dodor can efpy Ariamjm in our Liturgy or Articles, where it certainly is not ; He may as reafen- ably be fuppofed to miftake as much, among the Fathers. He kt^, in our Liturgy, the Do(3:nne of one God the Father, incltijive of San and Holy Ghofl:; but does nor fee one GoA exclujive of ^oih', which is his Dodrine. He finds a Subordhidtioti of Order taught in our pubhck Forms ; but does not find any Sub- ordination or Inferiority of Nature ; which is his Principle. And yet, upon thefe flight Grounds, He fcruples not to fay, that the "^ main Branches of his own Dodrine are ex- prcjly affirmed in our Liturgy j meaning, by a tacite Confeqtience of his own making. And fince this Confequentialy that is. Imaginary Countenance is all that He can claim from our Liturgy ; and all that He really means, when He fays the Church's Forms are on his fide ; pofTibly He may mean no more, when He Ipeaks of the Fathers. The generality of Rea- ders, It may be, underftand Him, as if He had intended to fay, that the Ante-Nicene Writers efpecially, had declared againft the Co-eternity and Confubjiantiality of the Son, the Points in Queflion. But I humbly conceive, He in- « Script. Doar. p. 379. tended Q^u.XXVII. of fome Q^UERIES. 41? tended no more than this, that the Ante-Ni- cene Writers have declared fomething, which, He really believes, docs by Conjequence de*' ftroy the ConfubftantiaHty, See. though, at the} fame time, thofe Writers admitted no fuch CoJt- fequence\ hwx. exprejly, and r^;//?^///"/)/ difown- ed M. This is all that He can mean, with rc- fped: to our Liturgy ; and therefore, probably, nil He does mean^ in refped: of the other ; or however, certain I am, that it is all Hq /l?otild mean. Now you fee the full of my Argument. If it look invidious, I cannot help it ; I am perfvvaded it is juft; and I think it of as ranch Importance to our Readers to have the Matter fairly ftated, as it is that Truth may not be' fmother'd; nor any flrcfs laid upon theDodor's Citations) beyond what They do really bear. The learned Dodor owns, as to Tofi-Nicene Fathers, that They are, in the whole, againft Him. And He lliould have own'd as much of the generality, at leaft, of the Ante-Nicene Fathers too, and then He has no claim to any thing but Couceffions ; of which He endea- vors to make the utmoft Advantage, three ways. Firfl, by making more Conceffions than there really are: Secondly, by reprefenting thoic Qoncefjions in ft) promifcuous and confufcd a Light, that a common Reader cannot readily diftinguilh when, or where the Dodor intend- ed the full and inrire meaning of an Author, or a CoficeJJioH only : Thirdly, by flipping his own Conclufion upon thofe Conceffions, as if They 4x6 A D E F,^ N S E du.XXVIf. They were . the fame Thing ; tho' there really is no Connexion betvyeen Them, no jull Con- iequence from one to the other. I would not be knowingly guilty of charging the Dod:or falfely, in thefe, or in any other Particulars, for ^y Confideration ; and therefore it may be cxpeded of me, that I explain my felf more at large ; which accordingly I iliall do, in the Order and Method which I have already \^\^ down, ^H ^.i I. The learned Dodor has taken feveral Paf- fages for Conceffions, which are really none ; \i]M only as He has given Them fuch a parti- cular Air and Afpedj either by prefacing Tb^, and holding out a falfe Light to the Reader; or by commenting upon Them; or by ill4ranjlating of Them. I ihall proceed to Particulars ; and you muft not take it amifi, ,if we call upon you to return us back what you bave unfairly WTefted from us. ^ ScripUire-'\Do^rine, Pag. 3. TheDodor pro- duces a Paflage of Athanafius, part of which, Jo far as concerns us, you lee in the * Margin 5, with ib much farther as is necefTary to clear the Senfc of the Author. The Doctor's Verfion runs thus: '* For He {the Father) is the one i' God, and the only Qne, and the Firft. And * E^ yu.f 0S6$ ^ ^4»(^ y^ TT^coTVi^ l<^v' one sf? uvxif^itr.v S'i ^ *if5 ?,kyi7ZCi' i-'j-A V-yoiro. i?i yap ^ aurs^ cv t&? i/i, :C z-^oorci, tCj f/^va, a>^ ra 'Bi-os (c" Morei ^ Uputh tC, MgyS*^ Xoy(^, :<1 (to^m, yl eCTmoyna-Uja, 3-c{p}7iq, oX(^ y^ !^^-iV>?5 6/y ©:s5. Athanaf. 3. Orat. Contr, Arian. p. 5J-6. Ed, Bened. ' ** yec Q^u.XXVn. offopteQlJERlES, 4157- ^•^'yec thefe Things do not deflroy the T^ivi- *' nity of the Son. This rendring is flat and low, and neither anfwers the intent^ nor Let- ter of the Author. Ouv. iU oLvcLi^io-i'/y literally, is-, not to exclude the Son: plainly meaning; not to exclude Hin^ from being the one God, and the only One, and the F'trft, together with the Father. And fo Athanajius interprets Him- felf, in the Words immediately following : For 'He ( the Son ) alfo is Trg^^r©-, the Firjl, the llillnefs of the Godhead of Him who is the Firjl, and only God. Youl obferve that the Dodlor renders a.7Cxijyx(j(jLcLy as if it had been k7i:cLvyiX' \i', ^ fAc^voyiV'A^ 0sa?— — — — fit)-; oi^^o ierve, how He perverts ^^T^/'sSenle, by a fmall and fcemingly flight Turn in his TranflatioD; * Bafirs Words are io-a kcl] tolvtoZ xcl"^ S^Jva^.tiiv^- That is, Equal, and the very fame ^ in refpeB of To%)er. The Dod:or drops equals which would have difcovercd Ba/il's meaning ; and renders it. One and the fame in ^Fower. And thus BafrsWovds, which are utterly repugnant to the Dodor's Hypothefis, are improved into a ConceJJJon in favor of it. > ^^A^ Pag. I ox. He gives us a low and lame Con- ftrudion of a noble Paflage in f Irenatis, The Words, jcct'gi To SeVx.oi' >9 eVJo^oi', He renders, in a divine and glorious Manner : The true ren- dring is, ^n his divine and glorious Choral er : Namely, that which He had as God, and Son of God. Iremeus, in that Chapter, is repre- fenting the Son as adiing at different Times, in a different Charader or Capacity. When He appeared to the 'Patriarchs, then He aded in his higheft Capacity, in his divine Charader. What that Character is, X Irenaus explains* * Set^i'? ro 'iV, U^n toZ itm kcci tuvt^ kxtu ouyccf/jiv vm^uXufJi/m Quvm. Bail]- Contr. Eun- I. i. p. ;f. -}- Kett Aurbi; S\ 6 >,cy(^ toZ ©sou TvTq fjj\v 7V^ Ma>vi, Iren. p. 19*3 • 'Axd rtZ TTXTOf)^ Yy^i/joviyjfif ex,vrS ycci \vh^>?v ycvexv. IJlam quse eft a Patre, principalem, & efficabileiii, & gloriofam gencrationem ejus enarrat, diccns (ic, In principiv erat Verbum, ^ Verbum erat apud Deum, o? Dm us erai Verbunh Et- om?iia per ipfuin facia fun t- (^ Jine ipfo fa^um efj nihil, Iren, p. 19 1. a lit- t^u.XXVlL of Jome (QUERIES, 43 1 a little above, in the fame Chapter :'/'!(:' is, ' a^ He is the IFordy the Framer ( or Maker ) o'f all Things, who Jitteth upon the Chernbims, and containeth all Things, who is the Son of God, and God. This ihows what is meant by the x\ ^iUlv 19 ivSi^o?^ and, at the lame timt^ fnovvs that, according to Irenaus, tka^'hiyt^l who is God, then adted in his own propef Character, and not in the Terfon of the Fa^ ther only ; which the Dodor would infer froril this Paffage. ^yi -^^ '• Pag. 115-. He cites a place of Jujfin Marty r\ where He renders the Words, which you fee in the * Margin, thus. " It was not God the '' Creator of the Univcrfe, which then faid Xx^ *' Mofes, that He was the God o^ Abraham^ V* and the God oi Ifaac, and the God oi Jacob, An uncautious Reader might imagine from this Paflage, put into this View, that the Son is not God abfolutely, nor Creator of the Uni-^ verfe, according to Jnjiin, But the mean^ ing is, that That divine Perfon, who called Himfelf God, and was God, was not the Perfon of the Father (whofe ordinary Chara^ ..der is that of Maker of all Things) but ano- "ther divine Perfon, viz.. God the Son. The unlearned Reader fliould be told, that what is here faid by Jujiin, was in difpute with 2ijeii\ who would not acknowledge more divine Per- o ''Aefxl:ix,t fC ©ts> 'Ii/wfltJt, ^ ©je/ 'J*>c^, Qu.XXVir. 6fjbnih Q^U E R I E S. 43 ^ difcovcry to the Reader ; Namely, ttVat a Man may believe the Son to be the only God, with- out being a Sabelilan. In the fame Page, The Doftor has another Qiioration from Athanajiiis (if that Trcanlc be his) which, had He gone on but a few Words farther, would have appeared Contradictory to ro the purpole, for which it was brought* * There is but one God, becaufe one Father; but the Son alfo is God, having a famencls with the Father, as a Son ; not that He is * the Father Himfelf; but in Nature united with ' the Father ; two indeed in Number, but one * intire Eflence. This is the whole Sentence literally tranflated ; and the Senfe of it is clear. The cutting it into halves, only to reprefenc one part under another View, is nor giving the Senle of a Writer, but making one for Him. P. t^iy. The Do6tcr cites another Paflage from Atkanafius '^ and by the Turn He gives \x.^ ftifles the true Senlc of the Author. ** \ The •* word has no ether fort of Divinity, but that *' which He derives from the only God, as '* being begotten of Him. Tif ^6a-i' duo f/jiv u^iSy^d^ t^icc oi cvra euaiix riXiiec. Alhan. Concr, Sabell. p. 41. ■f- M;«y oi-^'/ji'J oidbcujsi', tvv 77 i'ijfjuiiip'yov Xoycv (piicrfcuiiy i^ tTip'oi Arh;n. Conrr Arian, Orat, 5. p. cd4. Ed. Bcncd, F f ^ The 4J6 ^ D E F% WS ^ Qy.XXVH. ^The true Conltrucnoii is This;^- ^^ ^ ^^ '^* The Word has no other kiiicJ of T>lvin1ty, ^^ bur that of the only God; becaufe He is be- "^^ gotten of Him. The plain meaning is, that the Godhead of Father and Son is all one : Di- redly contrary to what the Dodor cites the PafTage for. After I had wrote this, I found that the DocStor Himfclf (/. 317) had tranflatcd the. Sentence in the very lame Words that I have done; excepting his putting ^^ri^'^^ (in- ftead of begotten) which might convey a low Idea to his Reader. But, not content with that, for fear a fagacious Reader ihould chance to difcover the true Senfe of the Author? Kc injerts a Note upon, T^ivinity \ interpreting it (^divine To^ver) in Contradidlion to the Au- thor's known ordinary Senib of ^^cojiisy as well as to the Context, v'f-r, ' - - i-^"-^ rr- Pag. 25-6. He cites * tzr^^^^ry Naztanzen, and tranfiates Him thus: ** There is but one " God; the Son and the H. Ghoft being referrd •• to the one Caufe. But then He adds a Note, which confounds all: Namely, filys He, as be- ing divine T^erfons by '•ji;ho?n the one God, or one Can fe and Original of all Things, made and governs the Word. Right; if V/e are to teach the Fathers how to fpeak: But what faid Gregory Nazlanzenl It is this: *' We may, " as j conceive, preierve {jtheDo^lrine of) one XBirTK TO h y^ TUVTJ 1^ 9^g(37>jrt§>-, ■ivoi ouTZc'^ cvoyjscazi), ftiv/iUtei tt yji^ ,48A5)y^^., k: tIv) v i'Ary.i Tuvr^r/^, Greg. Nas. Orar. 29. p. 490* (^u.XXVII. of fome Q^UERIES. 437 •* God, by referring both the Son and H. Ghoft ** to o;ic Caufc, wirhoiit Corapofitio?^^ or, Con- '*. fufion ; and by afTcrting (as I may Tay) one J^*l^and the fame Movcmcnr, and Will of the .*/^ Godhead, together with Saiiienefs of ElTencc. ftfere is ndtr,k Syllabic about the one God's go- rVerning the World by his Son and his Spirit ; rwhich, the' a true Notion, is not iufficicnr to ^account for the ^Unity ; nor is it Gregory's Ac- CAutit of it, as the Reader mud liave imapincd rrom the Dodior's Comment. r Pag. 323. The learned Dodof by wrong "Tointing, and Miftranflating, perverts a PafTage of J^ijiin Martyr. But I have cxplain'd and .vindicated the true Senfe of it * elfcwhere. ^ . Pag. 315-. He produces an excellent PafTage r|of Iren^usy and tranflatcs it juftly. But fear- ing it might found too high, He fubjoins a leden- ing Note, to draw off the Reader's Thoughts. ^ *' This Paflage (lays He) is parallel to Thofe , . ^wherein He calls the Son and Spirit the /y*'|iands of the Father, namely, executing his *' Will as perfeEily, as a Man's own Hands ^" perform the Will of the Man. But why may yir nor be rather parallel to thole Paflagcs wherein the Author fays, the Son and Holy Spirit are (in a qualified Senfe) the very Self of the Father ? They are here called his ovsu Ojf-fpring, and his own Figure, and all the 'Angels are faid to ferve and do obeyjafice to ^'Them. Does not rhis found fomething higher • Qu, 8. p. i%u F f 3 than 438 ^DEFENSE du. XXVII. than executing the Father's //^//A however /^r- fe^lyl Or, than the low Metaphor about a MaUy and his Handsy as the Dodlor repreftnts it ? True, Irenaus, and many other of the Fa- thers, ufe that Expreffion, which They took' from Scripture; but They underflood a great deal more by it; The fame as by * the Son executing and creating; *v the Holy Ghoft fupplying Nutriment and '* Incrraie. Here you'l obierve, that the joint Operations of the three divine Perlbns, con- curring in the Creation of Man, are fet forth in fucb a Manner, as to intimate both the di- ftind Pcrfonality, and Unity of Eflence. That lren£tis fuppofed the three Perfons to be the one kyim\TO'; (dioiy or eternal God, here ipoken * Vid. Tertull. Coutr. Hermog. c. 4.f. Eufeb. in Pfalm. p. 701,722. A'hana/i p. 214. 880- £d. Bencd. Hicrcn. Tom. 4. p. 49. Ed. Bencd. ecyl'yVi'.ris y.virK^. ©iS* Js* ^/jiv 'ztxt^o^ iuhx.ivi(^ y^ KtXi6oy\^^ y oi *t(». Ircn. !ib.4. c. 38. p. 285. pf^ Qjj.XXVlI. of fome Q^U-ERIES. 439 of, may appear ; i. From his introducing the three Pcrfbns immediately after, as Expla<^'^ natory of it. x. From ^ his iinderflanding Gen. z6. i. of Father, Son, and Holy Ghoft, Let U s make, and alio, afier Our hnage^ ^o that the Image of any one is the Image of all. 3. From h^en anus's other known Principles; his afTerting the Son to be /;/- fetttis, or iyeyyiiTo?; {uncreated) and fuppo- fing the Son and Holy Ghoft, to be the ^ Self of the Father ; and fpeaking of Father and Son together, as one God. 4. From fevcral Hints, in the fame Chapter, all confirming this Senfe. One Charad:er of the iygvvrjTo?, there given, is TgAe^o^: The fame Character is, in the fame Chapter, ^ applied to the Son , in the fame Senle. All Things, but the iyewj^ro^, are faid to be /;/ ^ Snbjeciion : among which Things , Irenaus can never be fappofed to include the Son and Holy Spirit. And farther, every thing that is not, cLym-^Tz^, comes iliort of Perfedlion, according to '^Iren^us ^ who, at the fame time, aflerts the Perfed:ion of the Son, as before faid, Thefe Things confider'd, the meaning of Ire- n£us, in this Paflage, appears to be, that the a Manus Dei ad quas pater loquens, dicir, Faciamus Hominem ad Imnginem (^ Simditudmem Nostram. Iren. 1. 5. c.i. p. 19 V Idem ipfe qui ab initio pblmavic Adam, cum quo & loquebatur Pater : Faciamus Hominem fccHmlum hna^lmm ^ Si mill t ml in em Nostram. Ij-. c. 15-. p.B«i. b Lib. 2. c. ^o. p- 163. C 'Tio^ Toy Ofsy -AXiKic, uv. pt 284. t Kje^'o i/t f/jv^ iTiJ oiyin vijTzi, xetrst tSto ^ ^^i^^j k. n/.£/». p' 18:^, F f 4 ' thrqc ^g, J V E F E N S E Qy.XXVIL thi'e^^'-^rvine Perfons are one eternal, or mi- qX^(^^M God, as alio one Creator. How theti ,^ixie the Doxftor to cite iuch a PafTage, which threatens nothing but Ruine and DeftruSion to his Principles? TheCaie is this: The learn- ed Dodor, by a flrange over- fight, read v At©g5x ^nftead of 5 ^tV nargj^, tho' Both the Greek and :the old hatm agree in this lad Reading. This Alteration, in the Text, ipoils all the Elegance, 4nd alters the whole Turn of the Sentence : Be- sides this, the Dodor tranflates cLyivvyirs, un- begotten. inftead oi unmade \ not obferving the :Mnt%thcjis, between y\w/^Th<^" k)Pf^(i>7:(^<^^ and iyey- p(X^, .e)gy 1 nor attending to, Infecii T)ei, in yih^^^^old- Tranflation; which might have fee |iiiiQ light. Thus far I have gone on with ibrne of the Dodor's Quotations ; but give me jeaY.etP flep hajck.fpr.a few more, wlueh I ■h^VQ averIook'Ar>Mfio7q ^ xH '* ,: p. 308. The learned Dodor produces a Paf- fage of '^^ Bajil, which He renders thus; very fiirpri2;ingly. *' We affirm that according to *' the natural Order of Caufes ^nd Effects, the \^y' Father muft have the pre eminence before \'-- the Son, Whoever heard before, from any ■ Catbolick, that the Son was an Effect of the Father? Could \^^y?/ lay this? If the Dodor would but have fuffer'd the very next immediate WoiQS, Vi^hich malve part of the Sentence, to * tifJUli}(r.v 6 xt/^t(^, its f/y$& 'Tmifttt. ),ua^) Creatures \ and not only fo;'' but fuppofes the Creatures of the Father to be Creatures of the Son likcwiic. I may jufi: take notice, how particularly fond the learned Doctor - is of the Phrafe, was produced {^See p. 175. x/??" 281.291 ) which He ufes frequently, without any warrant from the Authors He tranflates ; and for no other reafon, that I can lee, but be- cauft it is apt to convey a low Idea (the Idea of a Creature, tho' the Dod-or does not hk^- the 7iame) to the Englijh Reader. -^f I Ihall proceed no farther in this Article, hav- ing given Inftances enough to fliow that fbme Abatements and Allowances iliould be made us, for inch. ConceJJIo7?s, as are really no Cbncel- fions in the Authors Themfelvcs. Upon the ^ whole, one might really wonder that the learned Dod:or, who had lb wide a Field of Antiquity to range in, and vv^as only to pick out fuch PalTages, as running in general Terms, or taken feparately, might be made to, appear under fuch a View as He intended, . iliould produce no more; but be forc'd even to wreft and torture leveral of rhofe He had found, by prefacing, commenting, and tranl^ lating, to accommodate Them at length hardly, and after great Reludance, to his Purpole. You will fay, perhaps, that theDodtor lets light by the Fathers, and lays no ftrqfs upon Them ; ^ Ifliali Q^u. XXVII. of fome (QUERIES. 443 I iliall believe you, when He fairly gives tliem up. At preicnt, it muft be thought that They are efteemM of fome Moment, when a Book is ftuffed with Quotations out of Them, and lb much pains taken to make Them any way fer* viceable. One that lets fo great a value upon the mecr appearance z.vid Jhadow of Antiquity^ can hardly be fuppofed to flight the Thing it felf: If the learned Dodtor is lb well contented with ConceJJions only, fnatch'd, in a manner, and extorted from the Anttents ; how would He have rejoyced to have found Them come heartily, readily, and throughly into hisSchcme» as They do into Ours ? II. Bat fuppofing all the Dod:or*s Quotations from the Toji-Nicene, or Ante-Nicene Writers had been at leail: real and full Conceffio7is ; yet there is Ibmcthing fo peculiar in this new way of quoting ConceJJions, without taking notice of what ihould come in to explain, or ballance Them, that we have realbn to except againft it, as not a fair way of dealing. 1 . Becaufe, though the learned Dodor does give notice in his Preface, that we are not to take the Opinion of the Authors, in the whole, from thole Quotations; yet many may happen to read the Book without confidering, or remem- bring a iliort hint in the Preface; and lb may lay a greater ftreft upon thole Authorities than the Dodor intended. 2. Becaufe the Dodor no where (in Scripture- 2?^^r/V/^) gives any Marks of Diftindion for an ordinary 44if 4 A J^ ^ J^(^ E QuXXVll ordinary Reader to uaderftand, where He in- tended a Coiice£lon only, of an Author, an(J ^^yherc his intirs Opui\)n ; where He agreed )yith the Dod:or 'm,^part only, and where in the "-johole, Inftead of this. He rarely lets his ^nglijl) Reader fee jnore of any PafTage, thari may appear to comport with, and favour bi,s o\^^wHypotheJis\ either ftriking our what might have diicover'd it to be a ConceJJion in part, oj: difguifing it in his Tranflation, cr explaining it away, by his prefacing ir, or commenting up- on it. Befides, fmce Authors have very feldom, if ever, been cited in this manner (by Men of Chara6ler) in favour of fuch Principles as They really dilbwn'd and rejedied in the main ; Rea- ders will be apt to carry that Prefumprion and Prejudice along with Them ; and a iliort Ad- vertifement in the Preface, will no^t^^^ij:||Eciegt to prevent Vi. :[ ,-,;r> ' / / .'l\ 3. Another reafbn againft this Method is, that it gives a Handle to many to boaft of the nu- merous Colledions of Dr. Clarke againft the Received DoGtxmc. See ( befides others ) the T^iffwafive from inquiring into the T)o6irme of the Trinity (p, 28.) where this very ufe.is made of ir. By this means, Truth is darken'd, Evidences perplex'd, and the common Readers rather puzzled and confounded, than ^fet into the true State of the Fad; fo far as relates to, rhe Judgment of the Antietits. 4. Ii iUould be confider'd that the monal Obliquity and Turpitude of milcjuoting or rnjf^. repreftnting (Id.X^^Vff. ^ybrite t^U E R I E'S. 44; rcprcfenring Authors, confifts in this : That it is a means to deceive the Simple, to fitrprizc the Unwary and Unlearned (who muft, or will Receive Things upon Truft) it is taking Ad- "vantagc of the bhndSidc of Human Nature, lay- ing a Snare for fuch Readers (perhaps Ninety- nine in a Hundred) as read not with due Care and Thought. I do not lee but this very Me- thod of the Dodor's (rho' He has endeavor'd to IcfTen the Scandal of it) is big with all this Mifchief. He has indeed given notice ; and wife Men and Scholars vi^ould have been lecure *hiough 'Without it : Others will not be fb, with It: And therefore He is (till to take Advantage ^oi the Ignorance of one, the Partiality of ano- *|her, the Forgetfulnefs of a third, the Credulity, 'Simplicity, Haft, and Inadvertency of as many as come unprepared and unfurnifli'd to the read- ing his Citations. The Thing it felf, vou may perceive, is equally mifchievous, however gilded over with fpecious Pretences. And there's no more in it than this: Mijr eprefent at ion pra- xis'd, and at the fame timiC, ieemingly defend- ed, and (tho' the learned Doctor docs not per- ceive ir) it is really nothing elle but contriving a way how to reconcile (if poilible) a good Na?ne, and an /// Thing together. 5". It might be of ill Example, fliould this method of citing Authors (never before ufed by good and great Men) grow into Vogue. A Romaiiijl^ for inftance, might, in this u'ay, un- dertake .t© defend ibme of the Romiffo Tenets. 446 ^DEFENSE Qu.XKYM: Ic would be cafy for Him to make a numeroui Colic(3:ion of Teftimonies from ihc Fathers \. and as much to the purpole, as the Doctor's CoHedtion is/ Two Inconveniencies He might forefee; one to his own CbaraEier, upon dif- covery; the other to his Caufe, becaufe His own Citations might be turn'd againft Him. To obviate the former. He might declare before- hand, that " He did not cite places out of thefc " Authors fo much to ihow what was theOpi- ** nion of the Writers thcmfelves, as to fliow ** how naturally Truth fometimcs prevails by *' its own native Clearnefs: And to obviate the latter. He might iay, He alledged the Tejii- monies not as Troofs, but 2iSllluJtrations only. Thus the Writer might feem to come off pretty handfomly: But, in the mean while, the un- learned and unthinking might be led afide by the fair ihow of Authorities ; and all the Re- medy left for them is, Si Topilus vtilt decipi, decipiatur. Thefe are my prefent Sentiments of the Nature and Tendencv of this new and extraordinary Method of Citing ; which, how- ever, I Ihall be very glad to alter, if I fee any pood Reafon for it. To me it feems that it ought never to be pradtis'd, tho' to ferve the beft Canfe m the World. III. After all.ImuiT: obferve to you, fuppofing the Method to have been ever lo fair, and the Concefjlons both many and real, the Dodor has ftill failed in his main point, of m.aking out the hnportance of thofe ConceJjiQns^ to the Caule in Hand. Q^u.XXVIL of fume QUERIES, 447 Hand. There the Strefs fliould have been laid: We did not want to know what ConceJ/ioiis the Fathers, in general^ had made ; being ready at any Time to make the lame Concefjionsi But fiiow us the Connexion between thelc Conce£ions, and the Dod-or's Conclufion. This is the Point which ftould have been laboured; and which required all the Learning and Acutenefs which theDodx)t is Mafter of. As thus: The Fathers afTcrted the/Vy? Terfon only to be tmbegotten, or tin- originate \ therefore They muft ofConfequence make the Soa no more than an inferior God^ or no God. The Fathers fuppofed the Son fiih^ ordinate, as a Son ; therefore They mufl: by ne* ceflary Ccnfequence,dcny hx^Confubflantiality and Co- eternity. This was the Conclufion which the Dod:or w^as to draw out of thole Premifes; and Ihow to be juft and true. Bur, inilead of this. He drops the principal Thing ; repeats indeed the Conceffwns, fuch as They are, over and over; and, by a multitude of Words (not to fliow" any certain Connexion^ but only a verbal Refemblance) He at length flips his Conclufion into their Places. There is really nothing more, in this Management, than interpreting /// what the good Fathers meant Well'^ giving a low Senfe to Words andPhrafe^ which They mtended in a high one ; and put- ting an Arian Conll:rud:ion upon Catholick Ex- preffious. This \^ all that the learned Dodlor hath really done by the help of thole Concef fions. In the fame way, a. Man may quote all the 44? ifDEFENSE Qu.XXVII. the CcnceJJions of the Fathers about a proper •Sacrifice, in favor of the Sacrifice of the Mafs: Or their ConceJfio7is about a real Prejence, in favor o'i 2i fiibfiantialTre fence of Chnft'sBody and Blood in the Eucharijt, Only, if He would do it artfully and plaufibly, He iliould take care to reft in generals \ and fupply what is farther wanting, by Intimations, and Innuendos. This feems to have been the very Method which the learned Dodor has taken to grace, and let off many of his Tropofitions ^ the 9. II, li. 17. 34, 35"' 3<^. 39. 43' S?r. The Concejfions there cited come not up to the^ points in difpure betwixt Us, being moftly fiich general Things as may be admitted on either Side ; and luch as would not have been fuiped- cd to favor the Dodor's Caule, in Ofpofition to Us, but by appearing in the Dodor's Book, To make them iuit the better, the Dodor has form'd his Tro^ofitions, for the moft part, \\\ general, or ambiguous Terms ; content to Icat- rer Intimations of his Meaning here, and there, as He law proper ; and to truft the reft to the Sagacity, ihould 1 fay, or Weaknefs of his Rea- ders. And now, what is the relult of this Me- thod of Citing, or what does it really prove ? I will tell you frankly and plainly. Firft, It proves that general Expreffions are capable of being put into diiferent Views, and may be made to look this way, or that (taken iepa- rately) by Men of Wit. Secondly, It proves that when pertinent Authorities cannot be had. Writer^ Ctu.XXVII. of fime Q^UBR-fES. ^^^ Writers in a Caufe will be content with Any, This is All. Having Icen what the learned Do- ctor's Evidence from Antiquity amounts to ; I ihall next attend to what You have to (ay in defence of Him. You pcrfifl: in it, that the Ante-Nicehe Fa- thers and Councils agree with the T)o^or in every Interpretation of Scripture, tuhere^ in He diCagrees with the School-Notions, By School Notions (a Term of Art) I am to un- derftand i\\(tCatholick prevailing Notions of the Blefled Trinity. And will you pretend to (ay, chat the Ante-Nicene Writers agree with the Dodor in every Text ? How ftrangely you de- ceive your felf ? Do the Ante-Nicene Writers interpret the firft of St. John, fo as to make the Father one God fupreme ; the Word another God, an inferior God befides Him. This is the Do6i:or's real and intended Interpretation of it ; and your's too, however carefully you dif- guife it. Did the Ante-Nicene Writers inter- pret the Dodor's 300 Texts, or any one of Them, fo as to exclude the Son from being one God with the Father ? No certainly : They declare the contrary, and proclaim Father and Son to be one God, Is it poffible that the Ante-Nicene Writers (who underftood all the Texts to be confident with the Son's Confub" flantiality and Co-eternity which the Dodor cites in Oppofition to Both) iliould interpret the Texts as He does .? It is too great ^n Af- front to common Senfe, to pretend ic, But the G % Way 4JO A DEFENSE Qu.XXVJi, way is this: When the Dodtor produces the Texts, He exprefles but part of his Sentiments; and in fuch general Words, as Catholicks and Avians may Both agree in : And lb far He and his Authorities go on together. Afterwards He comes out of ^^//^r/^/j-, bringing the Words down to a particular referved meaning, before con- cealed (and w^hich ihtAnticnts would have re- jed:ed with Abhorrence) and ftill He appeals to the Antients, as agreeing with Him in his Interpretations, Thus, for Inftance ; in inter- preting the Texts which fpeak of the Father as the one Gcd, He finds iorae of the Antients fay, the Father is Au'-iii^o^^ the Son Second on- ly, or Subordinate, God of God. Very well: So fays the Dodor too : And now, who can make any doubt whether the Antients agreed with Him in his Interpretations ? But obiervc the Sequel : When the learned Dodor comes to explain his own Meaning of Autd^^o?, and Sub" ordinate, it appears, from many broad Hints fcatter'd here and there, to be this; that the Father only is necejfarily Exijting and ftridly divine \ The Son another Being, inferior in kind (or what comes to the fame, a Creature) dirediy contrary to all the Antients. Thu^ you fee, while the Dodtor keeps in gene- rals, and (peaks his mind but by Halves, Hef and the Antients may agree together ; as He and We alfo do : But as loon as ever He comes to Particulars, and difcovers his real and full Sentiraeots, there the Antients defert Him ; as well Qu.XXVft;' of fbme Q^UfeRIEl?. 4|r* well as He?, Us. But befides this general An- jRver, give mc leave to obferve that, as to fc- veral parricuiar Texts, The Dotlor has no fea- fon to pretend that* the Ante-Nicene Writers 10 general, Vv^ere on his Sidcj Rev, 1.8. is one of the Dodor's Texts , which He interpret^ of the Father ; and infills much upon it, tha:t the Antients applied the Title of ^cf.f^ioK^Ttupj the Ahmghty, to the Father only. And ycc nothing more certain than that That very Text was underftood , by the Ante - Nicene Writers, in general, of God the Son : Catho^ licks and Hereticks Both agreed in it. The Text was urged againfl the Catholicks, in the Sabellidn Controverfy; and was as plaufible ^' Text as any in the New Teftament, on the Snbellian fide: Yet the Catholtcks admitted that it was to be underftood of God the Son ; arid readily allowed, in Confequence of that Text, that the Son was 0 Tuxy^'^^rcop-, the Almighty ^ as well as the Father. See * Tertullian, Hip- polyttis, and, probably, Origcn, agreeing in this: The Dodtor has not pretended to cite any Ante- Nicene Waiter, who underftood the Text otherwife; tho' He makes a ihow of hav- ing the Antients in general on his fide, in this Very Particular, {Script. T>ocir, ^.6^.) with- out proving any thing more than that the Fa- ^/&)?r '\\'as ordinarily or emphatically ftiled 0 ^kmkpiruop'i which is true, but not pertinent ; ■\«^ .^- * Tertuli. Contr. JPrax. c 17. Hippblyr.Contr- Not^. c. 6. p- lo- T)rig, 'Ap;i> I. I. c. 2. Athan. p.;rf4,. 6S4.767.Ed. Benci. G g ^ Mpr 4Jt y/ D E F E N S E Qo.XXVII. nor is it givin2 us the Sentiments of the An- tients, with regard to this Text ; But his ^'ze'^^, Joh.\i.^\. is another noted Text, which the Dodor endeavors {^Scrlp. T)o^ir. p. loi.) to interpret in favour of his own Hypothefis \ and makes a fliow of Authorities, as countenancing Him in it. But none of his Authorities come up to his Point: So far from it, that They are all againil: Him ; as I have fufficiently proved under ^z^;;;)' the Second, and elfevvhere. The like may be obferved of the Authorkies which He produces (p. 114, 115".) to confirm his In- terpretation of Act, 7. 30, 31,31. And 1 have, above, Ihown you as much oi Job. 10. 30. and other the like Texts; where you pretend to have fome Countenance from the Antients, for your Interpretation. Infliort; there is not a Text which the Dodtor can pretend to urge in favor of his main Dcitrine, and againft Ours; and a,t the lame time fiiow that the Antients agree with Him. As foon as ever you interpret any Text diredly againU the Divinity of Chrift, as underftood by Us in the ftrid Senfe, you go off intirely from the A7iti€nts,'2iVid go on by your Selves. But enough of this. In anfwer to the latter part of the Query, you obferve tliac the Reafou why the Dodor doth not admit theTeffimonies' of the F^/'Z^mr, as T roofs, is not hecaufe They are againft Him-^ but hecanfe, thd" They are clearly for Him, yet, in Matters of Faith, H-e- alloijus of no other Troof than thd infaUible'Tefimony xf the Word of God. ' • 0ne Q^u.XXV^IL of Jorne (QUERIES. 4^3 ' One might be willing to believe this to have beenthereaibn/why He ''sjould not admit Them 2isT^roofs, if there were not another very plain one, why He could not -^ could not without in- evitable Ruine and Dcflrudion to his whole //>'- J^othejis. An Adverlary need not defire any fairer Advantage of the learned Dodor, than to have the Iflue of the Caufe put upon the Doilor's Citations ; taking in no more than is abfolutely neceflary to clear the Senfe of the Authors, in thofe very PaiTages. But waving tliis, let me ask you farther, why the Tefli- monies of Fathers may not be admitted as Troofs, Inferior or Collateral Proofs ? If I can know from Church-Writers, and from Scrl- ■pture too, what v^^as believed by the Church (in fundry Articles) from the Beginning ; I have then two Proofs of the lame Thing, tho' not Both equally Strong, or equally Authentick. The Proof from Church Writers is an addi- tional, inferior Proof; but ftill a Troof it is, probable at leaft, of fomething, as to Fa5t \ and not barely an Illujtration of a T>ogma, or Do- (3:rine. Are we able to frove what were the Opinions of feveral Scdts of Thilojophers from the Books which are extant ; and may we not alfo prove what was the Faith of Chriflians, \\\ the fame way, from the Books which They have left us ? You add. The Authority of the Fathers, could it be proved to be unanimous againji T)r, Clarke, ought not to determine anj Article of Faith. No ; gut it is a ftrong G g 3 pr^' 494 ^ DEFENSE Q^u XXVlI. prefutnptive Proof, that his Interj>retation of S\cripttire is not the true one: A Proof fo con- iiderable, that I know not whether any thing leis than dear and evident Demonftration ought to over-rule it. For, you mud remember that Dr. Clarke, or any Moderns, as well as the Ant lent s, ost fallible Men; and have only the lame Human Reafon to work with, which others had Sixteen Hundred Years ago, in an Age of Miracles, and near to the Days of In-s ipiration. Moderns, at fo great a diftance off, may, at leaft, as eafily miftake, in interpreting Scripture, as you fuppole the Antient and Unt<| verlal Church to have done, in a momentous Article of Faith. Well then ; fiippofing that we had been for {bme Time debating this very Point of the BlefTed Trinity, on the Foot of Scripture : Mens Wits are fo various, that ft- veral interpretations may be invented of the fame Texts; And perhaps none of them fo ma- nifeftly abfurd, but that They poffibly may be true; nor fo manifeffly right, but that They pofiibly may be wrong. What can we do bet- ter, '\n fuch a Caie, than appeal to thofe \vho lived neareft the Times of the infpired Writers ?- Their Judgment, their Dccifions, and confe- quent Practice, are at length the fafeft Rule to go by ; at leafl: till you can fliovy us a better. Scripture^ youl fay, is iht Rule -^ and fo fay L You bring your Scripture- Proofs; and I pro- duce Mine. You have your Solutions of luch Difficulties as I prefs you with : I have Solu- tions Qu.XXVlI. of fome (QUERIES. 45 j tions too, and fuch, to be furc, as I think Sounder, Better, and Jufter than Your's: You think the very contrary. Thus far, ft is com- bating Text with Text, Criticifm with Criticifm, Reafon with Reaibn ; and each fide will think his own Superior. Now, fuppofe I can farther produce a Cloud of Witneffes.a numerous Com- pany of primitive Saints and Martyrs, confirm- ing my Interpretation, concurring in my Senti- ments, and corroborating my Reafons: And fuppofe I find alio that Thole, who took your Side of the Queftion, were condemned by the generality as Hereticks, and Corf^iiptors of the Faith of Chrift; this will add fuch Weight, Strength, and Force to my Pretenfions, that impartial Men will loon perceive, which is the mod probable, which the fafer fide, and which it behoves them to cleave to. This is fo agree- able to the common Senfe and Reaibn of Man- kind; and the Advantage of having Antiquity of one's fide is fb apparent, that TU venture to. iay, none ever talk'd againft it, who did not falpeCt , at leaft , that Antiquity was againft Them: And this I take to be one of your greatcft Misfortunes in this Controverfy ; that you are fenfible how much it would weaken your Caufe to give up the Fathers ; and yet, you are certain, in the refult, to weaken it as much, by pretending to keep Them. G g 4 Q_u E R Y 456 ^.DEFENSE Qy.XXyilL Q^ U E R V XXVIII, Whether it he at all probable, that the fri- m'ltive Church Jhould mijlake in fo material a 7oint as this is; or that the 'whole Stream of Chrijtian Writers jhould miftake in telling its what the Scnfe of the Church was ; and whether fnch a Cloud of Wit- neffes can be fet ajide without weakening the only Troof we have of tloe Canon of SiQxx'fX.mQ, and the Integrity of the Sacred ' Text'i IN Anfvver hereto, you admit that the Tefti- monyofthe whole Stream of Antiquity is Jufficient to determine, in fa£i, what Faith the Church hath always profefs'd and declared An her publick Forms, I am content to put the Matter upon this Iflue ; and let the Point be decided from their ProfeiTions in Baptifm, Creeds, Doxologies, Hymns, which were pub- lick Forms ; and from pubHck Cenfures pafs'd upon Hereticks, which are as clear Evidence, as the other, of the Church's Faith at that Time. Only I would not exclude Collateral Proofs ; fuch as the declared Sentiments of Eminent ' Church Writers, the Interpretations of Creeds, left us by rhofe that recite Them; (fuch as Thofe of irenaus, Tertullian, and Others) and Ecclefiadical Hiftory, telling us, what the Tra- dition of the Church was, down to fuch a Time. ' From Qu.XXVIII. of fome (QUERIES. 4^7 From rhefe put together, wc liave very clear and fall Proof that the Catholick Church did all along profefs a Trinity of Confubftantial, Co- eternal Pcrfons, in Unity of Nature, Snb- ftance and Godhead. This, the Incomparable Biihop Bull has fufficiently iliown, in his 2)^- fenfio Fidei Ntcena, Judicium Eccleji£, and frimitiva Traditio. Biihop Stillingflcet pur- fued the lame Argument, with Variety of Learn- ing, in his Vindication of the T>o[trine of the Trinity , Chap, the ^th, which He concludes in thefe Words : ** Taking the Senfe of thofe '' Articles, as the Chriftian Church underftood '* them from the Apoftles Times, then we have *• as full and clear Evidence of this Dodrine, *' as we have that ive received the Scriptures *' from them.. Dr. Clarke''^ and V>xJVhitby\ Pretences, to the contrary, have been fuffici- ently anfwer'd ; partly by the learned Gentle- man, who wrote the True Scripture T>oEfrine Continued, and partly by thele Sheets. You have little to objed:, but that the Fathers did not aflert an individual Confubftantiality, in your Senfe ; which is true : And is no more than telling me, that They were not mad; when I contend that They were fobcr. But you add ; the Qucftion is, whether, ftp- pofing the Fathers had unanimoufly declared for our Notion, whether {in a ^icJtio7i not of FaEf, like that concerning the Canon of Scri- pture, hut of Judgment and Reafoning) fuch a Teftimony would prove that thofe Scri- ptures 45? A DEFENSE Qt.XXVIII. ftures reveal it \ or whether fitch an Inter- pretation of Scripture — would be as in f alii- hie as Scripture it f elf. But this is no Qiie^ ftion ac all between us. What we prerend is, that we have as good Proof of the ^o&rine of the Church, as of the Canon of Scripture. Whether the Church, after the Apoftles, was as infaUible as the Apoftles thenifelves, is quite another Queftion. We think it very unhkdy that the ApoJioUck Churches iliould not know the mind of the Apoftles ; or iliould fuddenly vary from it, in any Matter of Moment. We look upon it as highly improbable that the Faith of thofc Churches fliould fo fbon run counter to any thing in Scripture ; fince They had the beft opportunities of knowing what Scripture meant; were niade up of wile and good Men, Men who \j^ould fooner die than commit any Error in that kind, wilfully. Upon this, we believe the concurring Judgment of Antiquity to be, tho' not infallible, yet the fafeji Com- ment upon Scripture; and to have much more Weight in it, than there generally is in Wit and Criticifm ; and therefore riot to be rejeded, where the Words of Scripture will, with any propriety , bear that Interpretation. This is iufficient for us to fay, or pretend. We have as plaufible Arguments, to fpcak modeftly, from Scripture, as you can pretend to have : Nay, we think your Notions utterly irreconcilable with Scripture, according to the natural, obvi- ous, grammatical Conftrudion of Words. And bcfides Ql.XXVIII. of fome QUERIES. 459 befides all this, wc have, what you want, the concurring Senie of the Anticnts plainly for us„ The Quellion then is not, whether Scripture and Fathers be equally inflilhble: All the Fa- thers together are not fo valuable, or fo cre- dible, as any one infpired Writer. But it is plainly this : Whether the Antient Hcrcticks, or Catholicks, as They have been diflinguilli'd, have been the bed Interpreters of difputed Texts; and whether we are now to clofe in with the former, or the latter. You would infinuate that you have Scripture, and we Fathers only : But we infift upon it, that we have Both\ as for many other Reafons, fo alio for this, becaufe Both , very probably, went together : And as you certainly want one ; ib it is extremely probable that you have neither ; for this very Reafbn, among many others, be- caufe you have not Both, This Argument is of Force and Weight; and will hardly yield to any thing fliort of ^emonjfration ; much lefs will it yield to (uch fort of Reafonings as you are obliged to make ulc of, wanting better, to fupport your 7tovel Opinions. The Sum of the Wxhole Matter is this. The ananimous Senfe of the Antients, upon any Controverfial Point, is of great Moment and Importance towards fixing the Senfe of Scri- pture, and preventing its being ill-ufed by de- iulcorious Wits, who love to wander out of the commoa way ; and can never want fbme co- lour for any Opinion almoft whatever. We do not 46o ^ D E F 1 N S E Q^u.XXlX. nor appeal to the ^ntienfi,'zsif\vccou\dh6t maintain our Ground, from Scripture and Rea-, fin, againft all Oppofers : This has' been done over and over. Athdnafius^ Hilary, Bajil, the two Gregories, Chryfojiom, Aujlm, Cyril, and' Others, undertook the Caulc on the Foot of Scripture; and were cafily fupcrior to all the' Arians, Bur fincc we have an Advantage, over and above Scripture Evidence, from the con- curring Sentiments of Antiquity, we think it very proper to take That in alfo ; and we iliall not eafily fuffer it to be wrefted from" us. Q^U E R Y XXIX. Whether private Re afoning, in a matter above our Comprehenjion, be a fafer Rule to go by, than the general Senfe and Judgment of the primitive Church, in the firjl 300 Tears % or, fnppojlng it doubtful vuhat the Senfe of the Church vi'as within that time^ whether what was determined by a Council of '^oo Bijloops foon after, with the great- eft Care and ^deliberation, and has fatisfied Men of the great ef Senfe, Tiety and Learning, alt over the Chriftian IVorld, for 1 40c Tears fine e, may not fit is fy wife and good Men now? HERE you tell me, as ufual, when you have little elfe to fay, that the Council of Nice knew nothing' of Individual Cou^uh' ftantiality : Q^u.XXIX. of feme Q^UER!ES, ^fiV ftancialiry: And then you add. pleafantlyvthat you tarn the ^uery againjl the ^teriji, and lay claim to the Nicene Confefjion. What? Lay ciaim to a Confefjion made in dired: Oppo^ fition to the Men of your Principles? You i'ay, if any Conlubflantiahty is to be found in that Creed, it is the Sfecifick, not Individual. And what if it were ? Would that give you any claim to the Nicene Confefjion ? Are God and his Creatures Confnbfiantial, of the fame rank, fort, kind, or Species? You are forc'd to have recourle to a Figurative Senfe, which Pre- tence I have obviated above. You are fo kind to the ^ueriJJ, as to be v:illing to fup^ofe and believe, that He is not Ignora7it of the true and only Senfe of the vuord cpizBT.c^ ; meaning thereby the Sfecifick Senfe. In return, Til be fo jud to you, as to fay, that you underiland the word very right : And yet the Nicene Fa- thers did not teach a rneerly Specifick Confub- flantiality. The word cuobt.o^ exprefTes their Senfe ; but not their v:hole Senfe, in that Ar- tide. It exprefTes an Equality of Nature, and flgnifies that the Son is as truly Equal in Na- ture to the Father, as one ?vTan is Equal to another ; or any individual Equal to another In- dividual of the lame Sort or Species. And this was chiefly to be infifted on againfl: ihtArians^ who denied fuch Equality, making the Son a Creature, Wherefore the true Reafon, to ufc Dr. Cudvi'Grth's Words, only mutandis mutan- dis, why the Nicene Fathers laid io great a ftrefs 4^^ ^^ D E F E N S E Q^u.XXlX. ftrefs upon the ofiobcmv ^ was not becaiife this alone was fufficient to make Father and Son one God; but becaufe They could not be fo ^with- out it, * 'O/^08(7i@- the Son muft be, or He could not be God at ail, in the (Irid: Senle ; and yet if He was barely o^o8o-io^, like as one Human Perfon is to another, the t'-jijo would be two Gods. And therefore 'the Nicene Fathers^\ not content to lay only that the Son is o/jtota-iof^ infcrc likevvile, God of God, Light of Light, Be- gotten, &cc. and, oftheSiibftance oft he Father % and this They are known to have declared over and over, to be without any divifion : All which taken together exprelTes a great deal more than'cjttaytnos would do alone; and are, as it were, fb many quahfying Claufes, on purpoie to prevent any fuch Mifconftrudrion and Mii- apprehenfion, as the word might otherwife be liable to. The good Fathers, like wife Menv at once maintained the Equality of Nature^ * Hi Tres, quia XJmus SubfiantU funt, Unum funtj 6c Stamne umim Tunt, iibi nulla Narurarum, nulla eft diverfiras Voluntatum* Si aiitern Natwa Unum eflTent, & Confenfione non efTent, non Summi unum elTeni;: Si vero Natar^z difpares efTent, unum non efTent. Hi ergo Tres, qui Unum funt propter inefFabilem Con- jundionem Deitatis, qua ineffabiliter Copuhntur, Unus Dens ef^. Aug, Contr. Maxim. 1. 2. p. 698. This is -very full to our purpofe) and y by the rp.:-:y, may JJyovo, hott' far St. Auftin tvjis from Sabellianifm , ivhich fome huve weakly pre- tended to charge Htm roith. But there are many Pajfages in this Piece againfl Maximin, one of his lery latefi Fteces, full againfi Sa- bi'llianil'm, as wdl as agamft ArianiTiJi. / may jafl remi^rk, that, there is a deal of difference beiroeen Unius Subftantix, and Una Sub- ftintia. Two Men are Unius ejurdemque Subftantis, not una Sub- llantia. But the three Verfons are ?>(?? o>^/j unius Subdantise, bnt una Subftaatijo The modern Senfe cf Confubfhntial take^ in Both. whiclt Q^u.XXIX. of fome QUERIES. 463 which l^QXism exprcflcs, nnd the ^n'lty of the Godhead too. Guarding equally againfl: Art- anifm, and Trithetfm, They took all prudent care to prelerve i\\t Co -equality of the iwo'Pcrfons, without dividhigih^ SubJ{a7ice,\Y\\\c\\ was what They intended. The learned Dodor *reprerents this Matter Ibmewhat crudely. He obferves upon the Words in the K'lccne Creed (y^mfie^lx, T§^$ ) that the Son was not Himfclf that i/idi- vidua/ Snbjlance^ fronn which He was begotten. This He has lb worded, that individual Sub- Jlance with Him can only fignify individual Hyfoftajis, or Terfon: And it is very true, that the Son is not that Terfon, from whom, or, of whom, He proceeded : But the Subjiance might be undivided, notwithftanding ; which is all that any Catholick means by individual Subjiance, But their meaning. He lays, Vi'as ; He was produced not from any other Subjiance {as Man was formed from the T>uji of the Earth) but, after an inejfable manner^ from the Subjiance of the Father only. Here He leaves out the principal Thing, which the Arians alTerted, and which the Catholicks guarded againfl, viz,. Not from Nothing, not g^ chi o^mv. If therefore the Son, according to xh^Nicene Fathers, was not from any othei Subftancc, befides the Father's, nor from no- thing ; it is very plain that (unlefsThey fuppofed ^"Divijion of Subftanre, which They abfolutely * Replr, p. IS- reje(5l-) 4^4 ^DEFENSE Q^u.XXlX. rejed) They fuppofed the Son to be of the fame midiv'tded, or individual Subftance with the Father. As to the Suppofition of his being produced from any other Subftance (as Adam was form'd from the Duft of the Earth) there was very little occafion to guard againft it : The Notion is, in it felf, too filly for any Man to own. The Avians themfelves (againft whom the Creed was contriv'd) never pretended it, but * cxpreily difown'd it : Their noted Tenet was, that the Son was the firfi Thing made. The Nicene Fathers defign'd chiefly, to guard againft the Suppofition of the Son's hcrngfrom nothing, which was what the Avians infifted upon ; They and the Cathbhcks equally be- lieving it ridiculous to imagine any Subftance to have been firft made ; and then the Son to have been made out of it. Wherefore, I hum- bly conceive, the true Reafons why theiVi^^;^^' Fathers were fo very particular in the Words, rari^pj Ix T>i5 io{oi$ ri Tcar^Uy were, f firft, to fignify that They underftood Genevation in i proper, yi\^ not jigurative S^nk -, as the Avia/is did: And fecondiy withal to :[:fecure the divine Unity. For, if the Son were, ab extra, and independent of the Fathev ; the Alliance^ the * Memorant Filium Dei neque ex aliqua fubjacente materia genl- tum efic, quia per enm creata on;nia fmt. RiUr, p. Sji* t Vid. Bull Def. F. N. p. 114., 1 15-. $2vcv i abi. i^oj^v c-}v, oi>iX>y^ Ik t^ uCtcu icr.x^. Epiphan. p.6(o. Oo^' cee, a,[,)^vi ivioo'y )cx^' tcwTcv iK^SfZv/?, b^' \\ofji\' 7Kuniio<; 0 'ijil, & p<*(J ffr^f^v sWa^.C'-j;. Orat. 2. p. ff^- Jida- QU.XXIX. of fome Q^UERIES. ^^ Relation, theVnity of the Perfoiis, in the fam^ Godhead, had (upon their Principles) been lofti and T)'tthe'tjm unavoidable. This may be enough to fatisfy ybu, that, What- ever the word ojLtoBJi©- may Commonly fighify^ yet the Nicene Fathers meant a great deal more than a Sfecifick Unity ; if not by that word, fingly confider'd, yet by that taken toge- ther with the reft, which were put in to explaiu it. The word may indifferently (erve to ex- prefsr an Equality of Nature, whether the Hy- pojlafes be undivided, or whether They have a feparafe Exijience. It was therefore pro- perly enough applied, in the Creed : And care was taken that both Generation, ^nd Confub- flantiality , iliould be underftood in a Senfe fuitable to Things divine], that is, taking from the Idea all that is low, mean, and imperfedr % and applying only fo much as might comport with the Majefty, Dignity, and Perfedions of the adorable and incomprehenfible Trinity. You fcem to be apprehenfive, that you muftj at length, be obliged to give up the Nicent Creed, as utterly inconfiftent with your Prin- ples ; as indeed \t is. And therefore, in x\\t next place, you endeavour to leiTcn the Credit of it ; aliedging, that the Council of Antioch before^ and the Council (p/'Ariminum, and other Councils, after {fome of Them ^mnth a greater Number of Bijhops than met at Nice) deter- rniji'd againji the o/xoticn®^. The Objedioii drawn from the Dererminatiod of the Council ^ H h ©f 466> A D E FiEiNS E Qy.XXIX/ of Antioch , about Sixty Years before the Council of Nice y you find largely anfwer'd by *Billiop BtilL They condemn'd the word, as- it had been mifunderftood and miiapplied by Tatil of Samofata-^ but cflabhlh'd the very f-ime Dodrine with the Nicene Fathers, I may anfwer you briefly, upon your ow^n Principles;*; You lay, Taul of Samofata was condemn'd for holding oiJLOiicn©*, in the Senle of individual Conlubftantiahty (/. ii8.) which, if it be true, was reafon good enough for condemning Him; as you underftand Individual, that is, in a Sabellian Senfe. The Remark of Hilary, whp goes upon the lauie Suppofition which you do, may here be pertinently f cited; and may ferve as a fufficient Anfwer. It is oblervable that Hilary makes the Number of Bifliops in the Antiochian Council no iliore than 80 ; Atha- najius, but 70 ; Eufebitis, an indefinite Num- > bcr, very many. It does not appear that They t were near fb confiderable as the famous Coun-^;; cil of Nice of 318 Bilhops. You next mention the Council oiAriminum\ and give a hint of other Councils. It would have been but fair to have told us what other Comtcils yon meant, which had, as you fay, ■di greater Number of Bifliops than met at Nice. * Def. F. N. p. 1% er. See alfe Mr.Hlmlhy. Anf^, to Whi(lQ|iij p. 1 03. Defence, p. ^6. t Male inrdligitur Homoufion : quid ad me bene intclligentem ? . iVJale Homoullon Samofatenus Confeflus eft: Sed nunquid Melius Ar'n ncgaverunt? Oftoginta EpiTcopi olim refpuerunr j (cd Treccnti li di'cen) octo n'^per rcceperunt. Hilar, de ^nod^ p. uoo. You Qu.XXIXP offomd Q^UERIES. j^ You know, I prcfume,^^^ at leaft might know, that you cannot name Oik, befides the Conn- til oi Arimtnum\ whfeh I ihall fpeak to pre- Icnrly. ^ 300 jh . yi - In your Appendix Tp'. t5'4.) You fay the De- termination of the Cotmcil of Nke, for the 0^08010?, was rejed:ed by a greater Council thait. that of Nice, met at Jerufalem. But in thcle few Words, you have two Miftakes ; or at Icaft* you have faid what you cannot prove, * Eufe- &im's Words, which you refer to, may mean no more than this, that the Cotmcil of Jeru- falem was the greateft He had known, fince the Famous one oi Nice, Your other miflake is, that They rejected the T>e termination of the Council of Nice, ®f . How doth this ap- pear? Did They fay a word againfl: it? Or did They make any Declaration againfl: either the Council of Nice, or the 'Opioiaio^ ? Not a Syl^ lable. But f They received Arius to Commu* nion ; partly upon the good Emperor's Recom^ mendation, who believed Him to have recanted, and to have come in to the :j: true Catholick * De Vita Conllant. 1. 4. c. 470 p. 41-4. See Valcfius'/ Kotis^* \ See the Hiftory in Socrat. 1. I. c. 33. Sozom. I. 2. c. 27; Athanaf. p« 734. i Arius fvpore to the Emperor, calling God t» Witm/s, that Hi Relieved in Father, Son, ami Holy Ghojl, as the whole Catholick 'Chufch taught. Which the Emperor could take in no other Senfe, iut as it had been lately deter mini hy the Catholick Nicenc Fa- ^hers. See Soxorti. I, i. C- 27. Ai^J this may farther appear by the Emperor'^ putting Arius fr thi Teji aftervPArds, to fee whether He really acknotfkdged the Ni- ccne faith r,r no, 5"^? Socrat. 1. 1. c. 38. H h % Faith, 468 A D E F E N.S E Qy.XXIX. Faith, as eftablilli'd at the Council of iV/V^ ; and partly upon Ar'tus's ^ own ConfeJJion of Faith, which was fo plaufibly worded, that it might eafily pafs for Orthodox, tho'ir wanted the w^ord ofjLo^a\(^. Now, is it not very unac- countable in you to call this Rejeding the Determination for the o^oaoi©^, when it vva$: only receiving a Man, iiippofed by the Em- peror, and perhaps by many of the Council, to have repented of his Herejy, and to have em- braced every Thing that the Nicene Council had determiti'd; the very Senfe and Meaning of '0^08(7105 it felf, tho' not the Word. ^ Pals we on now^ to the Council of Arifni-^ Ttum, in the Yeat 359. when ih^ Avians had the fecular Power on their fide, and made ufe of it, with all imaginable Severity. The whole Number of Bifliops in Council arc computed at about ^400, and "^not above Eighty of Then! Arians, <^ All the Catholicks, at firft, declared their unanimous Adherence to the Nicene Creed; and protefted againfl any new Form of Faith All manner of Artifices, Frauds, and Menaces were contrived to bring Them and the Arians to fomething. like an Agreement. Yet the utmoft They could do, was only to bring; the Cat ho licks to fubfcribe a ^ ConfeJJion ^ a Extat.mScMsom. I. 1. G. 17. - '''- iiVnul b Sulpic. Sev. p. 267. Athanaf. p. 720. /Maxiitlin /^.Ayisitir inakes the Tphole Number 35c* Auguft. Coliat. Tom. 8. p. 650. c Sulpic. Sever, p. 269. d Hilar. Fragm. p. 1341. -e Quae Catholicam difciplinam,, perfi4iia,4^;en|€j ipqugretufo Sulpic p, i7i. • :.v..: ^ ^- ;*i^ artfollj (^^^^TiP of ^f^ ^ EfkfE S. 469 artfully wordej in general Terms. And no, fooner did the Catholick Fathers, after their Re- turn Home, perceive how They had been im- pofed upon by ambiguous Terms, and over- reach'd by Craft and Subtilty ; but They * con- fefs'd their Error, and repented of it with Tears. The Hiftory of the Council at large is too tedi- ous for me to recite Here : It may be feen ci- ther in the original Authors, Atbanajias, Sul- f ictus Severus^ Hilary, Socrates, So-zomen^ Theodorit, and Jerom ; or with lels Trouble, and in left Compafs, in Cave's Life oi Atha- najius, or laftly in Montfaucon's. When you have well confider'd the Arts and Pradlices of i^t Arians, much the fmaller Number, in that Council, you may perhaps fee reafon to be afliamed of having mention'd it, but no reafon for oppofing \i to the celebrated Nicene Cotm- cil. While the Council oi Arimimtm was free, and left to give their real Opinions; the Arians were condemn'd by a great Majority, and tfeeir Principals depofed. Even, at laft, you have no Reafon to boaft of their unanimous Agreement to a new Faith. It was 2i verbal. Agreement only, to Expreffions feemingly Ca- tholtck: And probably, the Majority departed with the fame high value and opinion of the Nicene Faith , which They brought with Them. Four Years after the Synod oi Arirni- ♦ Vid. Ep. Liber apud Socr. i. 4. p. 18 J. Hieron. Contr. Lucit. Dial, Sulpic, Sever. ' '^ Hh 3 num^ 470 JS D E F E N S E Qy-XXlX;. num, * Athanafms reckons up particularly the Churches which ftill embraced the iNT/V^/^^ Faith. Thofe of SpaiUy Brit am, Gaul, all Italy ^ %>almatia, 'Dacia, Myfia, Macedonia^ Greece^ Africa, Sardinia, Cyprus, Crete, Tamfhylia^ Lycia, Ifauria, Egypt, Libya, ^ontiis. Cap- fadocia, and the Churches of the Eaft ; ex- cepting a few that followed Arius, He calls them the whole World, and all the Churches throughout the World. He declares that He knows, it , and has their Letters by Him to prove it. And it is worth reciting what ac- count the Bifliops of Egypt and Libya, and among Them Athanafius, give of the extent ^f the Nicene Faith, about Ten Years after the time that you pretend there was a general Council againft it. Writing to the Bifliops in Africa, They begin thus: " fit is the greateft '* Satisfadion to us to have ieen w^hat T>ama- "■' fiis our Fellovv-Minifter, and Bifliop of the "-^ great City of Rome, and fuch a Number of '' Bifliops in Council with Him, befides other * Athanaf. Ep. ad Jovian, pag. 781. Theod, E, H. 1. 4. c.go S€9 Liberius'i Letters An. 367. apud Socrat^ 1,4, c. 12. Damialus^i %.eit. So^om. 1.6. o 2?. • ' -^ >/n J Hoc eft illud Homouficriy cjuod in Concilio NJcxno adverfus Haere- licos Arianos, a Catholicis Patribus, Veritatis Audtoriratc, Sc Au- dioritatis Vcritate firmatum eft: quod poftea in Concilio Arhninenji (propter novit:uem verbi, minus quana potuit intellectam, quod tan-icn Fides AJitiqua repcrcrat). miiltis Vnucorum Vrauclc dcceptis, Hsretica Impictas Tub Hseretico Imperatore labefacftarc tentavit. Scd poft non longum Tempus, Liberrate Fidei Catholicae prX' valentc, Homoufion Catbolicae Fidei Sanitate lon^e lateque de- fenfum eft. Auguft. Tom, S. p. 704, ' -^ Apud A.tiianai.^ p. 8pi. . '^n Synods Qu.XXIX. of fome (QUERIES. 471 •' Synods in Gaul and Italyy hath wrote in *• Defence of the true Orthodox Faith: That ** Faith, which Chrift deHvered, and the Apo- *' ftles taught, and our Fathers aflemblcd at ** Nice, from out of the whole Chriftian World, *' handed down to us. So intenfe was their Zeal ^' at that Time, in regard to the Avian ^a* '* refy; that They who had fallen into it, might ** be reclaimed ; and that the Heads or Authors •' of it might have a Mark fet upon Them. *"' To this Determination {of the Nicene Fa* *' thers) formerly the whole Chriftian World ** conftnted: And at this very Time, many *• Councils have confirmed and publiili'd the 3' fame : By means of which all They of T)dl' ^ matia, T)ardania , Macedonia^ Epirus ^ f^* Greece, Crete, and the other Iflands, Sicily^ i^' Cyprus and Tamphylia^ Lycia, Ifaiiria, all -•* Egypt, the two Libyas, and the moft of '^^ Arabia have acknowledged it. They go oa to let forth the great Refped: and Veneration due to the Decifions of the Nicene Council j and iliovv how far \z was preferable, in every refped, to all the Arian Synods 5 and particu- larly to the pretended general Council of Art- milium, which fome prefomed, at that Time of Day, to fet againft it. The whole would be well worth the Reader's perufal, and thither I refer you, for a more particular Anfwer ; that you may learn hereafter, not to call every Thing hugely Romanticky which may have happened to efcape your Notice or Obfervation. H h 4 I muft 0^ ~4 P E F, E N S E QyXXrX. I muft tak^ leave to tell you, there never was ^ Sypod on your fide, fo free; fo large, fo, in (every refpecS:, unexceptionable as tha C^i^^r/V of JSlice yN^s, Nay farther; that whatever Op- {>o{ition was made to it, was carried on with ach Wiles, Crafts, Subtilties, and refined Ar- tifices, as every HoneflMan fliould be afliamed of; And farther, that, notwichftanding all They could do, the Artans were not able long to t^aintain their Ground , but the Men who fiiftaia'd the Shock, and kept up the Credit of the Nicene Creed, were not only the moft nu- pierous, but appear to have been as wife, as judicious, and as pious Men, as ever the Church %^as adoraed with, fince the Times qi the Apoftles. Y b'?v.ni:H o^siiuol tti*t^^ I do not pretend that there is Demonflration in tliis^ kind of B-eafoniog, in favor of any Caufe. put ft will have its Weight with cool and cpn- fideifirjgMen; Who refleding, that Religion is fiOt AThing to be coined, and recoin'd every li/foBth i^ that it has been thought on long and WcJI, ^nd by Pcrfons blefs'd with as good a Share '^CJf Upderdanding, and as great Sincerity as any gre,^ or have been ; and that the generality of the wifert and raoft excellent Men, have. hi- therto gone on in fuch a way, and that too after a ftrid: and levere Examination, being, well apprized of the Objedions niade againft it; I fay, who, reflecSting thus, will be very cautious of Contradicting what icems to have, been fo ^ell, and fo deliberately fettledj and will be rather Qu.XXiX. of fome (QUERIES. 471 t rather willing to fufped their own Judgment, i and modeftly decline whit looks like leaning '^ too much to their own Underflandings. How- •^ets^fuch Confideiarions may be of ufe to Thofe who, not having Leiiure, Inclination, or Patience to examine throughly into this Con- ^troverfy (as perhaps few have) mult be con- rent to judge as They can: And fince They find the fame Scriptures fo very differently in- terpreted by the contending Parties, till They can Themielves enter into the very Heart of the Controverfy, how can They do better than "clofe in with Thofe, who have been in Podcl- fion of this Faith for fo many Centuries, and have had, in a manner, in every Age, for at leaft Fourteen Hundred Years, I will venture to fay, Sixteen, the moft eminent Lights and Ornaments of the Chriilian Church, to fupport and defend it? This I mention as the fafefl: way; and fuch as will be taken by modeft, humble, and difcrcer Men; being what They can bed anfwer to God, and their own Con- fciences, even tho', at length, it ihould prove Erroneous; which yet has not hitherto, nor ever will be, I am perfwaded, made appear- As for Thofe who chufe to go out of the common Road, and to run Counter to all that has hi- therto been called, and reputed Cat ho lick, or Orthodox-^ let Then) look to it, and be it at their own Peril. They muft believe that the Antient 'Hereticks were the Soundeft Chriftians; that the firfi; general Council which met from ail Pajts 474 ^" D E F E N S E Qu.XXiX. Parts of Chrijlendom, and having no byafs, fo far as appears, to determine Them this way, or that, either did not know what was the Faith of their relped:ive Churches, and what had been handed down to them by their PredecelTors, or elfe wilfully and unanimoufly agreed to corrupt it ; and that too in a very material Article, in which the fumm of rheChriftian Religion is con- tained ; and in which the Nature and Objed: of our Worlliip is very nearly concern'd. They mufl: believe farther that the Churches, in ge- neral, throughout the Chriftian World, through every Age (and even fince the Reformation, up- on which Matters were ftridly look'd into, and carefully re-examin'd) have fallen into the fame Error ; and fo continue, even to this Day ; fome few private Men only, here and there, ili owing their diflike of it. Now, They who pretend this, muft bring fome very ftrong Proofs to make good their Pretences. If They have not fomething very Weighty and Momentous to urge; fomething that carries the Force and Evi- dence o?T>emonflration with it, They are firft very unreafonable in caUingusto attend to what fo little delerves it ; and next very inexcufable in their Attempts to draw others into thdr J>re* carious Sentiments, and to raife Doubts and Perplexities in the Minds of fimple well-mean- iljpg Men. But I pafs on to. QjJ E R Y Qy.XXX. of for^e QIJ ERIE S. 47 J Q^ U E R Y XXX. Whether, fitppofing the Cafe doubtfttl, it be not a wife Man's jmrt to take the fafer Side ; rather to think too highly, than too meanly of our Bleffed Saviour ; rather to pay a modeft deference to the Judgment of the Antient and Modern Church, than to sjfean to one's own %)nderjianding'i c ^- J UPON the Queftion, whether it be not iafer and better (fuppofing the Cafe doubt- ful) to think too highly, rather than too mean^ ly of our Blefled Saviour ; you anfwer, quejii^ onlefs it is; which one might think a very fair and ingenuous ConfefTion ; and you need pot have added a word more. You go on to fay, that this is our mof flaufible Tretence ; in which, I think, you do it a deal too much Honour. I did but juft hint it; and left ic iliculd not be of force fufficient, immediately flrengthen'd it with another Confideration , which I am perfwaded will bear, if this fliould 1^V^X ai^d the rather, becaufe you have not thought fit (b much as to take notice of it. I rnuft however follow you, upon the former Point, ih^x flauflble Plea, and which is fo juftV that you fecm your ftlf to give into it. Yet, I know not how, by fome peculiar turn of Thought, you at length come to fay, that it proves as weak and falfe as any other they ever ever al ledge. If it prbve no weaker, I Ihall be farisfied. Let us hear what you have to fay.l Your Argument is this; Sifice Revelation 'i/^. the only rule in the Cafe, if we go beyond, or ^ jfwe fall Jhort, are we not equally culpable^ I am very glad to hear from you, that Reve-^ lation is the only rule in the Cafe. Abide by that, and Matters may eafily be adjafled. To the Argument I anfwer: That you equivocate in the word Equally, and make a Sophiftical ^yllogifm with four Terms; ^^//^^//y culpable, fignifies, either that one is culpable as well as the other, or that one is culpable ^^j ;i^//rZ; as the other ; equally a Fault, or an equal Faulto Our difpute is about the latter, and yet all \, that you really prove is only the former. Re- velation undoubtedly is the Rule, and to goT beyond it is certainly culpable, as well as it is ' to fall fliort of it; and yet not culpable (aC:^ leaft not in this Inftance) in the lame Degree. j| Is there no fuch Thing as an Error on the right ^ Hand (as we fay) or a Fault on the right Side % ^ Of two Extremes, may it not often happen, | that one is more dangerous than the other ? 1 This I aflert to be the Cafe here : And I wilj.- give you my Reafons for it. Our BlefTcd Lord .^ hath done great and wonderful Things for us. .^ If our Refped:, Duty, and Gratitude happen^ V through our Ignorance and exceffive Zeal, la q rife too high ; this is the overflowing of our ^.^ good-natured Qualities, and may feem a pitiable J Failing. But, on the other Hand, if we hap- ^"^'"^ pen Q^u.XXX. offime QUERIES. 477, pen to fall Ihort in our Regards, there is not, only Ingrititude, but Blajphemy in ic. It is degrading, and dethroning our Maker, Preier- yer, King, and Judge; and bringing Him down to a level with his Creatures. ,. Befides ; we have many exprcis Cautions gi-t ven us in Scripture, not to be wanting in our Refpeds and Services towards God the Son; but have no particular Cautions againft Honour- ing Him too much. We know that we ought to Honour Him, even as we Honour the Fa- ther-^ which, if it be an ambiguous Expreffion, w^e are very excufable in taking it in the beftSenfe, and interpreting on the fide of the Precept, We know that by diilionouring the Son, we do, ac . the fame Time, diflionour the Father: But w#y are no where told, that the Father will refcnt. it as a diflionour done to Himlelf, if we fliould^ chance, out of our fcrupulous Regards to the- Father and Son Both, to pay the Son hiotje?^^ Honour than ftridly belongs to Him. On thclc,:' and the like Confiderations (efpecially when we; have fo many, and fb great Appearances of; Truth, and fuch a Cloud of Authorities x^, countenance us in it) the Error, if it be onej - feems to be an Error on the right Hand. Now > you fliall be heard again. Can any Man think to pleaje the Son of God, by giving that to Him, which He never claim d or could claim*^ Pofitive enough. But will you pleafc to re- - member that the Query Ju^fojes the Cafe doubtful (which was abundantly civil to you) : dQubt-- 47B ^DEFENSE Qu.XXXD doubtful whtihti the Son of God has claim'4 it, or no ; and the whole Argument runs upon"^, that Suppofition. This therefore difcovers ei- ^ ther feme want of Acumen, or great Marks of ^ Halle. You add: It can be no T>etraBion^ from the ^Dignity of any Terfon {how great foever that T>igmty be) to forbear profejfng ^ Him to be that which He really is not.' '^^ perceive, your Thoughts are dill abfent; and you do not refled:, that you are begging the Queftion, inftead of anfwering to the Point in Hand. You are to fuppofe it, if you pleafe^^'^ doubtful, who, or what, the Perfon is. Irf" fuch a Cafe, it may be better to give Him what He does not require, than to defraud Him of what He does : It is fafer and more prudent-* to run the Risk of one, than of the othert' You go on: It may well become ferious and- fincere Chrijtians to confider whether it is ^ not pojfible that while, adventuring to be wife beyond what is written, they vainly think to advance the Honour of the Son of God, above what He has given them Ground for in the Revelation, They may dijhonotlr"'^ the Father that Jent Him, &c. I am wear;f 1^ of tranfcribing. Confider, on the other Hand,- whether it be not more than foffible , thati'i while others adventuring to be wife beyond^' what is written (teaching us to profefs threW Gods, making the Creator of the World \^ Creature, inventing new unfcripural Diftin^J^ (ttions of a fiip\mc and ^fubordinateW or*'' iliipr Qa;XXXo of fome QUERIES. 479. fliip, with many other Things equally nnfcri- ftural and unwarrantable) They vainly think to bring down Myjieries to the level of their low Underftandings, and to fearch the deep Things of God \ They may not diihonour both Father and Son, and run into Herefy, Blafphe- my, and what not, and Sap the very Founda- tions of the Chriftian Religion. You proceed : It may become Them to confider what They will anfwer at the great Day, jhould God charge Them with not obferving that T>ecla^ ration of His, I will not give my Glory to another. They may humbly make Anfwer, that They underftood that His Glory was not to be given to Creatures ; and therefore They had given it to none but his own Son, and his H. Spirit, whom They believed not to beCr^^^- tures ; and whom Himfelf had given his Glory to, by commanding all Men to be baptized in their Names, equally with his own ; and order- ing particularly, that all Men jhould Honour tho Son, even as They Honour the Father, If They happened to carry their Refpedt too high ; ye£ it was towards thole only, whom the Father principally delighteth to Honour ; and towards whom an ingenuous, grateful, and well-difpoftd Mind can hardly ever think He can pay too much. Upon thele and the like Confiderations They may humbly hope for Pity and Pardon for a Miftake ; fuch an one as the humbleft, mod devout, and moft confcientious Men might be the apteft to fall into. But 4?o y^ D E F E N S E Qji.XXX. But whar mull an Avian have to fay, at that great T>ay, if it appears that He has been ut- tering Blajphemies againft: the Son of God, and reviling his Redeemer ( the generality of fober Christians looking on , all the while , with Horror; iliock'd at the Impiety; and openly declaring and protefting againft it) and for no other Realbns, in the laft Re- fult , but becaule He thought Generattoit implied 'Divijion^ and necejjary Generation implied outward Co-aBion ; and He could not underftand whether the Unity fliould be called Sfecifick or Individual -, nor how there came to be three Perfons ; nor why One might not have been as good as Three ; nor why the Fa- ther ilaould be faid to beget the Son, rather than vice verfa ; and the like ? Is this kind of reafoning fuitable to, or becoming Chriftia7is, who have their Bible to look into; which alone can give any Satisfadion in thefe Matters ? To go upon our own Fancies and Conjed:ures, in a Thing of this Nature, is only betraying too little Reverence for the tremendous and un^ fearchable Nature of God, and too high an Opinion of oux own Selves. You have a far- ther Pretence, built upon your miftaken No- tion of individual \ which I need not take notice of, having al;ready almoft lurfdted the Reader with it Q^UERt QIJ.XXXI. of fome (QUERIES. 481 (^ U E R Y XXXI. Whether any thing lefs.than clear and evi» dent Demonftracion, on the fide <9/Ananifm, onght to move a iz'ife and good Alan, againjl fo great Ap^^earances of Truth, on the fide (?/ Orthodoxy, from Scripture, Reafon, and Antiquity : And whether we may not wait long before we find fuchY^^moix^izxXoMl IN your Anfvver to this, I am rebuked, firft* for giving the Name of Orthodoxy , to a Scholajiick Notion : And fecondly, for calling your Dodtrine Arianifm. As to the firft, I Hand fo far correded, as to beg the privi- lege of ufmg the word Orthodoxy, for the Received T>o6irine. You are pleafed to call it a Scholajiick Notion. How far it is Scho- lajiick, I do not certainly know ; But lure I am that it is Primitive and Catholic k : And I do not know that the School men were Hereticks in this Article. If They were; So far, you may depend upon it, our Notion is not ScholafticL As to your Dodtrinc being juftly call'd Art- aril fin, I hope, without Offence, I may lay, I have made it plain to a Dcmonftration (except- ing only that, in fome Particulars, you fall be- low Arianifm^ and I fliould advife you here- after, for your own lake, to difpute fo clear a Point no farther. But let us go on. You add; If it he im£o£itple, by the Rule of SvrijftUre I i dnd 48^ A D E^ F E N S E Qy.XXX^ and Reafin, and the Senje of the moj} arit}enf fVr iters, and Councils of the Ctmrch, thif the Scholaftick Notion Jhotild be true ; and tf there be no Isltd^wxxx bet'uvixt (the ScholaflicK Notion) ^7/^ the Notion of ^r.Chtkt (rharis Arianiim) then it i:;itl be demonf rated tP^f (Arianirm) is the true T>of!rine of JeffP Chriji and his Apofles, as revealed in Scrii fttrre, and the true Sen fe of Scripture infer-' ^retedby right Reafon, and as miderfoGd^bJ' the bejt and moft ant tent Chtiftian Writer^l This is your i>emonftration ; only I have' thrown in a word or two, by Way of Paretic tbefis; . to rnakd it the clearer to the Read^fv The fumm of it is this ; if the Scholdflick No^l tion (by w^hich you mean Sabellianijm') be not' true f and if there be no Medium between Sd- hellianijm' and Arianifm ; tha^^'Ariahi/m ^'^ the True: Dodrine, ©r. That is, '^^'^ fifpofing^ h^ proving, and \i begging the '^leflionht the; fame thing with determining it; then Ibme- thing will be demonf rated, which is not de- mofijirated. You do well to refer us to yout^ Appendix for proof, and to fliift it off as fair as poffible. i^etnonjlrations are good Things, but fomctimes very hard to come at; as youl find, in the prelent Inftance. You may take as much time longer, as you think proper, to con-i fider of it. Give me a "Uemonftration, juftly^^^ Jo called; a chain of clear Reafbniug, begihnihg^^ from fome plain and undoubted Axiom, and^ regularly defccnding by necelTary Dedudioijis? qt,,c]ofp Connexion of Ideas , till you come ^ ypm G?^cljtfion. Till yon can do this, it \j{iJl be but Jabour loft, to endeavor to iliake ti\cjie6;ei^ed T> Horror of Bl'afphemy* and how lliocking ^^ Thing it muft appear to. begin now to abridge Him of that Refped, Service, and fupreme Adoration, which has been fo long, and fo uni- V(?Flally paid Him, and by the bleffed Saints md Martyrs now crown'd in Heaven ; I fay, ajvy.Man^hat duly confiders this, will eafily p.cr^eive how impoffible it is for Ariamfm ever to; prevail generally among Chriftians, except i^ be upon one or other cl- thefe Suppofitions*. Either that the Age becomes {o very Ignordnt ox Corrupt, that They know nor, or care not, what They do ; or that fome new Light fpring I \ 2 up. 484 ^-15 E^ F^ f N S E QuXXXV up ©ti the fide oi Arianijm, fon^ hidden re* ferve of extraordinary Evidences, ftich as, iw 1400 Years Time, the Wir of Man has nor been able to dilcover. As to the latter, nei- ther your felf, nor yet the learned Dodtor has been picafed to favour us with any fuch Difcovery : As to the former, I have too good an opinion of you to fufpect, that you can ei- ther hope, or wiili for it. You will havef-a^ mind to try what you can do : And lb give mo' leave to repreient to you a iliort Summary of what we are to expedt of you. -3 ioi^i You are to prove, either that the Son Js' not Creator ; or that there are two Crcatorr; iand one of Them a Cr^^/^//r^. 2. You are to lliow, either that the Son i^ not? to be worjh'ip'd at all; or that there are two ObjeEis oilVorjh'tp, and one of Them^^a Creature. "^^ 3. You arc to prove, cither that the Son is nox.God\ or that there arc two Gods, and one of Them a Cr^^/'/^r^. ^ rjiiJii oj iuiD^jc^a 4. You are to ill ow, that yom Hypthefi} 'ii high enough to take in all the high Titles and Attributes afcribed to the Son in Holy Scripture 5 Andj at the lame time low enough to account for his mcreafing in iV'tJdom, not knowing the ^ay of Judgment, His being exceeding for- row fill, trouble dy crying ont in his Agonies^ and the like. You are to make all to meet iif the one Aoyo^ or Word-^ or elfe to mend your Scheme by borrowing from oiir^-- ^ 5.1 Qy.XXXI. ofjbmg dUERIEjS. 48^ 5. I muft add ; that, whatever you undertake, you are either to prove ix. with fuch Strength, Force, and . Eyrdcuce, as may be iufficient to bear up againft the Stream of Antiquity, full and llrong againft you; or el(e to fliow that Autiquity has been much raifunderfloodiri^adjs not full and ftrong againft you. /^_ vfivn >y> • Now you fee, what you have to do; and our Readers, perhaps, may underftand what we are talking about, the Duft being, I hope, in fome mealtire thrown ofF, and the Caule open'd. Now proceed, as you think proper: Only difpute fair; drop ambiguous Terms or define Them ; put not -grofs Things upon us ; contemn every Thing but Truth in the fearcli after Truth ; and keep clofe to the Queftioa : Aud then it will foon be feen, whether v^r/- anifm, or Catholicijhi, is the Scripture -'Dor Sirine of the Trinity, ?^ There remain two only ^/^^t/Vj*, which I have any concern in; and I hardly think ic needful to take farther notice of them, the Subftance of them being contained in the for- mer: Befides that this T)efetife being drawn out into a length beyond what I expedted, I am willing: to come to a Conclufion. You'I excufe me for not returning a particular Anfwer to your Queries, having obviated all that is of weight in Them, \viX}i\\^T>efenfe of my own. Befides, you have now had Ibmc Years to con- fider this Subject, and may probably fee reafon to alter Ibme Things; to contrad your ^eries I i 3 into into a fliorter Compafs, and tp put them clofer and flrongcr: Tlio' that part,. I tnink, fliould come, after you have made a 2)^/f///^ of your own Principles: Othervvife, you knoWi- if.Js nothing but finding Faults, without propofihg any way to mendTherp; which is only a w.ojck of Fancy, and is both fruidefs, and endlefe. My defiga chiqfly was to be upon: the 0^;!^- Jive: The "Defenjive V2LXt, on our fide, jhas been handled over and over, in Books , wtsU known, and eafy to be had. What was. moll wanting was, to point out the particular, De- feds pt Dr. C/-{2r^^'s Scheme, which was thought to contain ibmething new ; ^arid w,a^ cettaialy fet forth in a very ^6"cc; Method. ^ :; -. , In Conplufion, give v^Q leave ta.tell yon, that I hav^ ,ei^^c^y, jnip this Catife (after a compe- tent weighitig of vvhat I, could.ime^^^\with^. oq. either /icle) under a^fail CoAvjdion both,. of the Truth ^nd.Jaiportaj;ice of it-^and^ witjb a Rcfo- , lution Qoy .G^^'s^ Au5fl-^cp). to. jtH^intaui it ; till.I/ce.Reafon (which. 1 defpair ofj. to alter .my Judgment of it. ^ Make you the bed you . <;an of your fide of, the Qiacftion, ip '2i rational .znd fair manner^. .^ Truch is what. I .fincerc^y '.aim ar^ whether it be on your Side, ot on ^.mine. But I may be allowed to fpeak.with the ^greater. Confidence in this Caulc, fincC; thc.Con- ^trpverfy is iiot.^^-KK, but has -teen exhaufted ^ long ago ; and all had been done on your Side, ^ that the Wit of Man could do, loi^gbefore cU -ther Yjou^.or I^r.,.^^^r||^_.,appcar'd in it. .Yoit Y" '^' ^^'^'\ i-I "^ '" ' 'may. '^j^^y^^/iVyoit'^^liaihy traverfe over aaaih^ Jrri. ■ftt&e, yihii-quity , and Reafon. As" 'to the flflt; all the 'texts you can pretend to/bring ^igiinfl: us,^haye been weighed and confiJci'd; %dd vve have Solutions ready for them'; while ' Yoi W yet to feek how to give a roferable Account cf Teveral Texts; thofe, efpecraliy, '^hich declare the U?iity of God, and proclaim the Son to be God, Creator, and an Obje[i of fVorJhlp and Adoration, If you proceed to Fathers, They Hand pointed againft you ; and YOU are certain to expofe your Caufe,, as ofrca •^ij^ yoti hope for any Relief or Succour from ^hem. If laftly (which you think your llrorfg- eft Hold) you retire to Thilofophy ^LudMeta- '2^yjicks, I humbly conceive, you \ViIi ftill be 'dblelte do'^bthing. It will be orify YaRiflg to '■^onjedttire, after you fail of P^**?^/ ; and giv- 'Ing the World yomPFiJhes, when They looked for ^emonjiratmts. I do not exped: you ' ihould believe one Word of what I have now -faid ; neither fay I \i to difcourage any rational inquiries; let Truth have its utmofl Trial, that "^it may afterwards Shine out with greater Luftre : ^Only let not your ^6*^/ out-run your Troofs. ^f your Arguments have Weight fufficicnt to ^'carry the Point with Men of Senfe, let us have ''Them m their full Strength; all realonaWc ^Men wfll thank you for Them. But if, tailing »;ifei Vroof, you fliould condefcend (which yet I ^^am perfwaded you will not) to Wile and Stra- 'tagem, to Colours and Dilguiles, to Mifrepre- ' 1^4 icncation a^88 yf D E F E N S E Qy.XXXI. fentation and Sophiftry, in hopes to work your w^y among the unlearned and unthinking Part of the World ; Then let me aflure you before- hand, that That Method will not do. Every Man, that has a Spark of generous Fire Iclt, will rife up againft fuch Pradices ; and be filled with Difdain to fee Parts and Learaing fo pro- ftituted, and Readers fo ufed. I A yi / am. Sir, jotir priend and S^rvanp. * 'brrfw ^^gi.1 T jiiSfiJuiiQraA v^aiflT yn£ ' * P O ST. '^D'dlnn bnf POSTSCRIPT. X Have jufl: run over the Second Edition of J|^ Dr. Clarke's Scripture -T>oEiy^ine \ where I obfervc, that moft of the Paflagcs which I have animadverted upon, ftand as They did, without any Corredion or Amendment. Where the Dodlor has attempted any Thing, which may feem to weaken the Force of what I have offer'd abov^, I ihall here take notice of it. I had noted (as the learnecl Mr. Welchman had done before me) the Do- <3:or's unfair manner of fupprefTing fome Words of Chryfofloftiy which were necefTary to let the Reader into the Author's true meaning. The Podlor here endeavors * to bring Himfelf ofT, by laying, that the Words left out arc Chry-. Joftom's o'-jiii Inference, and nat the Expli- cation of the Words of the Text. But the Truth is ; Qhrjfojlom'^ Inference iliows plainly Pag. 9^c what 490 T O S T S CWl'Pt. what his Explication of the Text was; which Explication reprefented fcpararely without that Inference, by the Help of theDod:or prefacing ir^'was made to appear in another Light, and to Ipeak another Senfe than what the Author intended, Otie in Tower (xctm e expedted of Him: The wifer way "^ would woujd have been, td:hftve ftruck the Quotation our of ^is..Book. Pag. 248. Tlie learned DodJor Criticizes a PafTage of Sz.AuJiin-^ which lam obliged to take notice of, having made uie of that PafTage in thefe Sheets: * I will give you the Dodrors -own Words, that you may be the better able to i^udge of the Matter. After He had cited fe^ ^eral PafTages out of Jnftin Martyr, where, ^probably, the good Father, was fpcalung of the Temporary ^z^i^fAeviTi^, or ManifefiatioJi , or Gent rat mi of God the Son, He proceeds thus. ** Note: In all thcfe PafTages, the words a.a&^ 3*.^?yAa, and iS^AiJ, and3€A/;H>and JW^<|, fignify ,';*., evidently, not ^W^;v/^, but voluntate \ woX 3*/nj,the mciQ Afp^robation, but the v^^f^icf rli^ *ao¥^iUr. And therefore S^. Aufrin is yQxy m> *-' fatr, when He confounds theie t''j:jo ITiings, /r'^rAnd asks {ntrum Tater Jit T>eus, Volens *' an Nolens) \whQX.\i^x the Father Hhnfe If be '^'jGod, "With or. 'without his oivn PVill^ The *V Anfwer is clear: He is God (T^c?/^;//) with ** the Approbation of^his Will ; but not volun- S\ f4te^-itiot ;(j\ iSaAW, not jSwAf^ 5cAi(r^5 and -\*. ^\jvxpL\, not by an A^ of his Will, but by ^'rrNeceJ/ity of Nature. Thus far the learned 1^0,<9:cr; who has made fuch tlrange and m> accountable Mifreprefentarion , that a FrieJid would hardly know what kind excufe to make for Him. I pafs by his grols Mif- * Pag. 11$, ■ ^ 49%, TOSTSCRITT. confl:rud:ion of Jufi in Martyr, and his In-1 fmuation (grounded upon it) that the Soui' became Gody by an A^f of the Father's IVilLs Admitting it were fo ; how is St. Aufiit$^ concerned in this Matter, and how comes iiii the Doctor's Therefore^ where there is no man/; ner of Connexion? Was St. Aujiin CommtnU^ ing upon JuJlmMartyrl I dare almoft be pofi*.\ tive that the Dodor's Thought was this : That. St. Aufihiy having admitted that the Son was God by an A^ of the Father's Will, and being prefs'd with the difficulty arifing from that Sup- pofition, had no way of coming off, but byl asking, whether the Father Himfelf was noti God by his own PFill. If this was not the Do-^ cftor's Thought, it is at lead what his Readers^i very probably , will have , upon the reading the Doctor's Note. But to clear up this Matter,- ril tell you the whole Cafe. The Arians, for- merly, as well as now, being very defirous ta make a Creature of God the Son, fet their Wits to work to find Arguments for it. They had a great mind to bring the Catholic ks to admit that the Son was firft produced, or gene- rated, by an Al^ of the Father's Will (in the Senfe of free Choice^ and the Confequence They intended from it, was, that the Son was a Creature. The Catholicks would notJ admit their Tojiulatum without Proof; and) fo the Arians attempted to prove it thus, by a "Dilemma. Tlie Father begat his Son, either Rolens, or Volhis^-^ cigai^^^^s^^)^^^ f^l^/'m^h, ^O S T S> C R I T r. 49^ his Will: It could not be agninjl his Will, th^t isabfurd; therefore it muft be with his f Fill ; therefore that y^^ of the Will was precedent Vb the Son's Exiftence, and the Father /r/en, Cyril of Alexandria, and St. An- fiin (Men of excellent Senle, and who knew how to talk pertinently ) eafily contrived tOli baffle their Advcrfaries with their own Wea- pons. Tell us, fay They to the Avians, whether- the Father be God, Nolens, or Volens ; againjl his Will, or with his Will. This quite con- founded the Men, and their T)ilemrna\ arid They had not a word to lay more. For, if They had faid Nolens, againjt his Will\ that Wasmanifeftly abfurd: If They had {d\^Volenil^ with his Will\ then, by their own Argument, They made the Father ^rior to Himfelf The Dodor perhaps might have help'd Them out. Let us fee then : The Anfwer, He iays, is cleats But what is clear ? Does He imagine there was any difficulty in anfwering St. Attjiin's Que^ ftion, taken by it felf.? This required no Oedipus \ Any Man might readily anfwer it: But the difficulty was for an Arian to make \* Athanaf. Orat. 5. p. 6i9» 61 1. Gregory Nazianz. Orat. jf. P* S^S-> S^^' Cyrill. Alcxandr. Thefaur. p. §9, 5-2. Auguft. T©m. 8. p. 62t» ^5>4. Ed. Eencd. ^n 494 'P '^ ' ^ ^ 'm:''n''^w T. an Anfvvcr, which fliould.ndt recbirupbh Hira-^ felf. Let us take the Dodor's Anfwer, and ob- ierve whether it could be of u(e. The Father, ■ fays He, is Gad with the Approbation of hu^ Will (Volens) not by an A£i of his fFi!^ Very good: But if an Arian formerly had thus^ aniwer'd Si. Aujfin, it would have made the, good Father imile. For, He would imme-'^ dvately have replied: Well then; fo the Fa-^ thcr had his Son (Volens) by the Approbation^; of his JVill, and not by an A^ of his IVilh- And now what becomes of your ^ilemma^' and your Nolens Volens ? What could thc- Arian have pretended farther, except it were7 to perftfl: in it, that the Son was God by an Am of the/F/7/? To which it would be readily anfwer 'd, that this was begging the Queflion ;. and fo the whole mufl: have ended. Judge you now, whether the Dodor or St. Atiflin had, the greater Acumen in this Matter ; and which of them is mofl: apt to be very unfair^ and to confound diflind: Things, F I N. I S. f'/ 4