V JUL 19 1932 9> THE Vi* the Lord Jesua Clirist, in regular Btanding, as cold, stupid, or dead, as unconverted, or enemies to revivals of religion, is improper." • The motion was seconded, and alter some remarks, Mr He- man moved to amend the proposition, so that it read as follows: '"Speaking against ministers of the Lord Jesus Christ, in regular Btanding, as cold, stupid, or dead, as unconverted, or enemies to re\ nals, as heretics, or enthusiasts, or disorganizers, as deranged or mad, is improper." 4 The motion was seconded, and tin 1 amendment prevailed. " Mr Edwards then moved to strike out all the epithets, so that it read as follows : ' " Speaking against ministers of the Lord Jesus Clirist, in regular standing, is improper." ' The motion was seconded, and after discussion, it was lost. ' The question was then taken on the proposition as amended, and all voted in favor of it, except that Mr Edwards declined vot- ing, and Mr Nettleton was absent 1 Mr Edwards introduced the following proposition : '" To receive persons as converted, merely on the ground of their own judgment, without opportunity for examination, and time to afford evidence of real conversion, is improper." 1 The motion was seconded; and after discussion, the mover asked and obtained leave to withdraw the same, and it was with- drawn. ' Mr Lansing introduced the following proposition : ' " The writing of letters to individuals in the congregations of acknowledged ministers, complaining of measures supposed to have been employed in revivals of religion, being calculated to impair the confidence of the members of such congregations in their ministers, and to encourage the wicked to oppose, ought to be carefully avoided." ' The motion was seconded, and after some discussion, the mover asked leave to withdraw the proposition for the present,. with the understanding that it shall come up hereafter. Leave was granted accordingly, and it was withdrawn. 1 Adjourned to meet tomorrow morning, at eight o'clock. Concluded with prayer. ' Tuesday, July 24. — Met according to adjournment, and open- ed with prayer. ' Present the same as yesterday, except Mr Nettleton. The minutes of yesterday were read. 'Mr Edwards introduced the following proposition : 1 " The existence in the churches of evangelists, in such num- bers as to constitute an influence in the community, separate from that of the settled pastors, and the introduction, by evange- lists, of measures, without cousulting the pastors, or contrary to 3GG Intelligence. — Revivals. their judgment and wishes, by an excitement of popular feeling which may seem to render acquiescence unavoidable, is to be carefully guarded against, as an evil which is calculated, or at least liable, to destroy the institution of a settled ministry, and fill the churches with confusion and disorder." 1 The motion was seconded, and after some discussion, the Convention united in a season of prayer. 1 After further discussion, the question was taken, and all voted in favor of the proposition, except Mr Churchill, who was absent. ' Mr Edwards introduced the following proposition : ' " Language adapted to irritate, on account of its manifest personality, such as describing the character, designating the place, or any thing which will point out an individual or individ- uals before the assembly, as the subjects of invidious remark, is, in public prayer and preaching, to be avoided." ' The motion was seconded, and after some discussion, Mr Lansing moved to amend the proposition, by striking out the words, "on account of its manifest personality, such as," which motion was seconded, and after discussion, was lost. ' After further discussion, the question was taken and twelve voted in favor of the proposition, and five declined voting, as fol- lows : For the proposition, Messrs Norton, Beecher, Churchill, Gillet, Tenney, Humphrey, Frost, Hawes, Weeks, Weed, Ed- wards, and Smith. Declined voting, Messrs Beman, Lansing, Gale, Aikin, and Finney. ' Messrs Lansing and Aikin entered the following, as their rea- son ; " The undersigned do decline voting on the foregoing par- ticular, not because they do not most unequivocally condemn such personality in preaching as makes an invidious exposure of individuals, but because they suppose that the article in question may be liable to such construction, as to lead many to say, that such characteristic preaching is condemned by this Convention, as is adapted to make sinners suppose that their individual case is intended. D. C. Lansing, & C. Aikin. * On motion of Mr Edwards, the following propositions were agreed to : ' " All irreverent familiarity with God, such as men use to- wards their equals, or which would not be proper for an affec- tionate child to use towards a worthy parent, is to be avoided." — Voted unanimously. ' " From the temporary success of uneducated and ardent young men, to make invidious comparisons between them and settled pastors ; to depreciate the value of education, or introduce young men as preachers without the usual qualifications, is in- correct and unsafe." — Voted unanimously. " To state things which are not true, or not supported by evi- dence, for the purpose of awakening sinners, or to represent Intelligence. — /»< rivals. 361 'G their condition a> more hopeless than it really is, is wrong." — Voted unanimously. , ' " Unkindnesa and disrespect to superiors in age' or station, is to be carefully avoided." — Voted unanimously. • •■ In promoting and conducting revivals of religion, it is un- safe, and of dangerous tendency, to connive at acknowledged errors, through fear that enemies will take advantage from our attempt to correct them.'" — Voted unanimously. • •■ The immediate success of any measure, without regard to its scriptural character, or its future and permanent consequen- does not justify that measure, or prove it to be right." — Vot- ed unanimously. " Great care should be taken to discriminate between holy and unholy affections, and to exhibit with clearness the scriptural evi- dences of tine religion." — Voted unanimously. ' "No measures are to be adopted in promoting and conduct- ing revivals of religion, which those, who adopt them are unwill- ing to have published, or which are not proper to be published to the world.*' — Voted unanimously. ' Adjourned to meet at half past two o'clock. Concluded with prayer. • Tuesday Afternoon. — .Met according to adjournment, and opened with prayer. The minutes of the morning were read. • Mr Beman introduced the following proposition, to wit: ' "As human instrumentality must be employed in promoting revivals of religion, some things undesirable may be expected to accompany them ; and as these things are often proclaimed abroad and magnified, great caution should be exercised in listening to unfavorable reports." 'The question being taken, eleven voted in favor of the pro- position, and six declined voting, as follows : For the proposition, Messrs Churchill, Gillet, Beman, Lansing, Humphrey, Frost, llawes, Gale, Aikin, Smith, and Finney. Declined voting, Messrs Norton, Beeeher, Tenney, Weeks, Weed, and Edwards. 'Those who declined voting, entered the following as their reason, to wit : " As the above does not appear to us to be, in the course of Divine Providence, called for, we therefore decline to act." • Mr Beman introduced the following proposition, to wit : '" Although revivals of religion may be so improperly conducted, i be attended with disastrous consequences to the church and the souls of men : yet, it is also true, that the best conducted re- vivals are liable to be stigmatized and opposed by lukewarm pro- fessors and the enemies of evangelical truth." ' The question being taken, eleven voted in favor of the propo- sition, and six declined voting, as follows : For the proposition, Messrs Churchill, Gillet, Beman, Lansing, Humphrey, Frost, 3G8 Intelligence. — Revivals. Hawes, Gale, Aikin, Smith, and Finney. Declined voting, Messrs Norton, Beecher, Tenney, Weeks, Weed, and Edwards. ' Those who declined voting, entered the following as their rea- son, to wit : " As the above does not appear to us to be, in the course of Divine Providence, called for, we therefore decline to act." * Mr Beman introduced the following proposition, to wit : * " Attempts to remedy evils existing in revivals of religion, may, through the infirmity and indiscretion and wickedness of man, do more injury, and ruin more souls, than those evils which such attempts are intended to correct." ' The question being taken, nine voted in favor of the proposi- tion, and eight declined voting, as follows : For the proposition, Messrs Churchill, Gillet, Beman, Lansing, Frost, Gale, Aikin, Smith, and Finney. Declined voting, Messrs. Norton, Beecher, Tenney, Humphrey, Hawes, Weeks, Weed, and Edwards. ' Those who declined voting, entered the following as their reason, to wit : " As the above does not appear to us to be, in the course of Divine Providence, called for, we therefore decline to act." ' Mr Beman introduced the following proposition, to wit : ' " In public meetings for religious worship, composed of men and women, females are not to pray." . ' The question being taken, nine voted in favor of the proposi- tion, and eight declined voting, as follows : For the proposition, Messrs Churchill, Gillet, Beman, Lansing, Frost, Gale, Aikin, Smith, and Finney. Declined voting, Messrs Norton, Beecher, Tenney, Humphrey, Hawes, Weeks, Weed, and Edwards. ' Those who declined voting, entered the following as their reason, to wit : " As we have expressed our views on this subject in a previous proposition, we therefore decline to act." ' Mr. Lansing introduced the following proposition, to wit : 1 " The writing of letters to individuals in the congregations of acknowledged ministers, or circulating letters which have been written by others, complaining of measures which may have been employed in revivals of religion ; or visiting the congregations of such ministers, and conferring with opposers, without conversing with the ministers of such places, aud speaking against measures which have been adopted ; or for ministers residing in the con- gregations of settled pastors to pursue the same course ; thus strengthening the hands of the wicked, and weakening the hands of settled pastors, are breaches of christian charity, and ought to be carefully avoided." 1 The question being taken, nine voted in favor of the proposi- tion, and eight declined voting, as follows: For the proposition, Messrs Churchill, Gillet, Beman, Lansing, Frost, Gale, Aikin, Intelligence, — Revivals. 3C0 Smith, and Finney. Declined voting, Messrs Norton, Beecher, Tcnney, Humphrey, Hawes, Weeks, Weed, and Edwards. 1 Those who declined voting, entered the following as their in, to H it : " As the above does not appear to us to be called tor, and is, in our new, liable to great misapprehension and abuse, and may n<>t be, in all respects, correct, we therefore decline to act : there being cases when n is the duty of ministers of the gos- pel freely to communicate, by letter or otherwise, with one ano- ther, and with private Christians, n\u\ give notice of approach ing danger ; to do which, they are bound by their office, and the im- propriety of neglecting it is in proportion to the magnitude of the interests involved." ' .Mr Beman introduced the following proposition, to wit: '"In preaching the gospel, language ought not to be employed with the intention of irritating or giving offence ; but that preach- ing is not the best adapted to do good and save souls, which the hearer docs not perceive to be applicable to his own character." * The question being taken, ten voted in favor of the proposi- tion, and seven declined voting, as follows: For the proposition, Messrs Churchill, Gillet, Beman, Lansing, Humphrey, Frost, Gale, Aikin, Smith, and Finney. Declined voting, .Messrs Nor- ton, Beecher, Tenney, Hawes, Weeks, Weed, and Edwards. 'Those who declined voting, entered the following as their reason, to wit : " As the above does not appear to us to be, in the course of Divine Providence, called for, we therefore decline to act." ' On motion of Mr Frost, the following propositions were agreed to: ' " Evening meetings continued to an unseasonable hour, ought to be studiously avoided/' — Voted unanimously. '"In accounts of revivals of religion, great care should be taken thai they be not exaggerated." — Voted unanimously. 'The Convention united in a season of prayer, and then at- tended to the reading of sundry documents, till half past six o'clock, and had a recess till eight o'clock. 1 After recess, met, and had a season of tree conversation ; and then adjourned to meet tomorrow morning at eight o'clock. Con- cluded with prayer. • Wednesday , July 25. Met according to adjournment, and opened with prayer. Present the same number as before. The minutes of yesterday were read. ' Attended further to free conversation on the documents of yesterday. ' It was moved and seconded, that we proceed to the reading of other documents, without further conversation on those which have been read. vol. iv. — no. i\ . 47 370 Intelligence. — Theological School. ' The Rev. Mr Benedict appeared in Convention, and took his seat as a member. 1 After some discussion, united in a season of prayer. * After further discussion, the question was put, and the mo- tion was lost. ' Attended further to free conversation on the documents of yes- terday, till one o'clock, and then adjourned to meet at half past two o'clock. Concluded with prayer. 1 Wednesday Afternoon. Met according to adjournment, and opened with prayer. ' Attended further to free conversation on the documents pre- viously read, and to the reading of some others. ' Recess till eight o'clock. ' After recess, met, and attended to the reading of other docu- ments. Adjourned to meet tomorrow morning at eight o'clock. Concluded with prayer. 1 Thursday, July 26. Met according to adjournment, and opened with prayer. Present the same as before. The minutes of yesterday were read. 1 Attended further to the reading of documents. United in a season of prayer. 1 Attended further to free conversation on the documents. Ad- journed to meet at half past 2 o'clock. Concluded with prayer. ' Thursday Afternoon. Met according to adjournment, and opened with prayer. ' Attended further to free conversation. 1 Recess till eight o'clock. 'After recess, met, and attended further to free conversation. 1 After which it was voted that the minutes of this Convention be forwarded to the Editors of the New York Observer, for in- sertion in their paper. ' Voted, that the Rev. Mr Churchill express to the people of New Lebanon our grateful sense of their kindness and hospitali- ty, and our best wishes for their present and everlasting welfare. 'By order of the Convention, ■ HEMAN HUMPHREY, Moderator.