THE EXPRESS QUESTION. BETWEEN A COMMITTEE OE BUSINESS MEN OP T l I C IT N I O îsT D , ANO WM. MAHONE, President ATLANTIC, MISSISSIPPI & OHIO R. R. CO. WITH AN APPENDIX, 1874. CORRESPO]:^DEN'CE. Eichmoni), July lltli, 1874. (4e.\. W^r. Mahoxe, Prcsi'Jcnt ^4., M, (t 0. Railroad, Dear Sir : Eeferring you to the card of tlie business mon of this city, published in our papers of the 26th of June, we ask that you appoint an early day for a confer¬ ence, in Richmond, with our committee—contemplating an ar¬ rangement for a through express to and beyond Southwest Vir¬ ginia. To this conference we propose to invite a representative of the Southern Express company, and if vou will suggest any other party or parties, deemed by you important to the solution of our difficulties, wo will extend our invitation to them also. We feel confident that an adjustment of the difficulties now at¬ tending the express may be arrived at, and a desirable end attain¬ ed in the interest of this communitv, of vour road, and of our State. In furtherance of our object, N. B. IMeade, of this city, has 4 kindly j^romised to see you and deliver this communication, to which, anticipating a satisfactory response, we remain, dear sir. Yours, very respectfully, MANN S. VALENTINE, Chm\ WM. H. PALMER, A. L. ELLETT, JAMES A. SEDDON, J. L. BACON, THOMAS POTTS, CHAS. D. HILL, GARRETT F. WATSON, R. E. BLANKENSHIP, SAM'L M. PRICE. ö Oi.d Point, Va., IStli July, 1874. Gentlemen : Your couimuiiication of the lltii in.st. has been hanciecl me iiere by Mr. IMcade. I M-as absent from the State at the time of the jiublication in the Whig to whieli you refer, and I have not scon it yet. In deference to, what I take it to be, tlie spirit of your request, and de.siring to promote, by every proper means, tiie extension and development of tlie trade reach of the city of Kiclunond, a re.spon.se will be made to your communication as soon as it can be rightly and authoritatively done, on the part of our company. Assuring you of my high consideration, I am, gentlemen. Very respectfully, WM. MAHONE, President, M. S. Valentine, Esq., Chairman, Ac., Richmond. (Through Mr.AIcaclc.) 6 Richmond, Va., July 22nd, 1874. Gen. Wm. Mahone, President A., 3Í. ublic convenience; and it was under such co-operative circumstances, that the)' became a monopoly to a larger degree than has been attained by any carrier, on which any pro¬ portionate public were ever dependent; and, as a consequence of these singular advantages, they have made money, fortunes, and princely fortunes for their owners, while many of the very rail¬ roads, whose property the^ eojplovcd, especially at the south, have been languishing. 12 But there is now a growing disposition on the part of railway managers, inspired no less by a due regard for the best interests of the property intrusted to their care, than by a public demand for tlie enjoyment of express facilities at more reasonable rates, to narrow down the operations of such "intermediaries" to the limits, within which they themselves cannot as well perform the ser¬ vice, and Avithin which these agencies should be confined, and wiicre they have their legitimate sphere of usefulness. Many of the leading railways are now doing their own express business, and that too AA'ith better results to the public and to themselves.* It would be difficult to controvert the general proposition that, if the express companies can grow, as they have grown, vastly rich, why should not this valuable source of revenue be turned, as far as practicable, to the proper account of the railway owners? They furnish the cosllj' part of the equipment for the service ; all, but the wagons, the officers and employees, and the paraphernalia of fine offices, much of which would not be necessary, if the rail¬ ways performed the service, and, thus, a material saving would be made to the public, independent of any share of the tax, which is *Among the more prominent roads doing tlicir own express business, may be mentioned tlie Union Pacific, the Philadelphia & Reading, the Lehigh & Susquehanna, and the Cincinnati & Muskingum Valley. The St. Louis Ct Iron Mountain does its own local express business. The Adams and Southern Express companies only operate over 127 railroads, while 258 other roads employ other agencies. In the last annual report of the Philadelphia & Reading railroad company, the President (Franklin B. Gowen, Esq., one of the first railroad men in this country) and Board of Managers sa}'— " The express business continues to justify the e.xpectations formed by the managers at the time it was commenced. The net profits for the year were $41.915.00, (after charging to expenses over $0,000 for equipment account, required by the increase of business,) an amount largely in excess of that received in any previous year from the Adams Express company. "This result has been secured notwithstanding the continued bitter opposi¬ tion of the Adams Express company, which manifests itself in a reduction of rates to all competitive points, and in sending money and other valuable packages over the line, in the care of agents who travel and pay fare as pas¬ sengers, thus withholding from the company all receipts from what is gene¬ rally the most profitable business. "The company now doss an express business over 794 miles of railway, and has 143 offices." l;] levied by these agencies, over and above the atuounts paid to the railways for hauling their freights. As to to the matter of respon¬ sibility, I take it that no one will contend that such express agencies bear even a reasonable comparison to the railway property of the country. It was the habit, quite universal at one time, to allow these "intermediaries" not only the exclusive privilege of transportation by passenger trains, but under terms, which allowed them to ac¬ count for the weight, or amount of freight, carried ; thus, in fact, leaving to such agencies to pay the railways what they pleased, while there was no limit upon their charges to the public. No other shipper was allowed such privileges. His freight was weighed by the conijiany's agent, and his payment for transportation, by freight trains, was by the company's fixed tariff. In the matter of-small packages the express company would receive $25 to $40 for 100 such parcels, for which the railway would be paid $2 or $0; while, for the transportation of thousands of dollars the railway would receive pay only for the weight of the «afe, in which they were transported, if indeed that much. A sense of duty to the public, and of official propriety, is cor¬ recting this mistaken liberty to such agents, and our own Legisla¬ ture has wisely enacted restrietions aiming at restraint, in this re¬ spect. To allow such agents the exclusive use of a cassecl a resolution, asking the management to extend the operation of its local express* (then, as for years ])ast, doing business between Lynchburg and Norfolk) over tiiat part of tiie line between Lynchburg and Bristol.* Action upon tiiis reso¬ lution was necessarily delayed until April, 1872; and, before any was taken, two propositions were submitted to the Southern Ex¬ press company, tiirough tlieir superintendent, both of which were declincf the stockholders of the Atlantic, ^Mississippi & Ohio railroad ooinpauy, called pursuant to law, held in Lynchburg, .Ma^' 18th, 1871, Hon. Thoina.s S. Bocock presiding— Tlie following rc.solution was offered by Hon. Fayette McJtullen ; "Resolved, 'i'hat the committee on Busines-s be requested to urge upon the President and Directors of the A., M. & O. R. R. Co. to perform the btisi- neas of the e.\pres.s companie.s by said company." This rc.solution was referred to the committee on Business, consi.sting of Jos. B. Dunn, Judge R. H. Jones, Jr., T. L. H. Young, Joseph E. Venable, of Petersburg ; W. W. Gwathme3', Dr. E. C. Robinson, of Norfolk ; F. B. Hurt, of Smythe ; H. J. Venable, of Prince Edward ; Jno. H. Flood, Dr. Ro. Eiirly, P. J. Otey, of L.vncbburg ; A. A. Pblegar, of Montgomery ; Judge E._F. TilU'r, of Scott ; Dr. Ro. Crockett, of Wj'the, and Geo. P. Ta^'- loe, of Roanoke. The committee on Busine.ss reported the following resolution, which was unanimously adojhed bj- the .stockholders : "VI. That the President and Board of Directors are requested to conduct the express business over the line on the company's own immediate account, in so far as the same maj- be conducive to tlie best interest of the road and the more reasonable accommodation of the public." 16 worked harmonionsly and satisfactorily, and tlierc was nodiflnndtv nor complaint, during the three years of their existence. At the time when tht^ Southern Express company withdrew, from our Virginia & Tenne.ssee division, there was no canse for controverey, so far as we know, between that company and ours ; and none, certainly, between the Adams company and ours, for it was not using any part of our line, but was in harmonious busi¬ ness relations with our express. Immediately upon the withdrawal of the Southern Express company, our manager ordered his agents to receive from that company all available express matter, they might have on hand for points on our road, and to a.ssume their charges, so that no in¬ terruption of express facilities might ensue. He also wrote to that company for copies of their rates, proposing to furnish his own, that a joint tariff might be made. In the meantime the Southern Express company, at Burkeville and Petersburg, con¬ tinued to interchange~business, as before, with our local expi-ess, and the Adams not only continued their interchange at Xoriblk and Lynchburg, for points on our eastern divisions, but also for all points on our line west of Lynchburg, just as they had former¬ ly interchanged with the Southern Express company. * This interchange was satisfactorily continued until April 13th, (say eight days) when, without warning, or cause alleged, our mana¬ ger was notified that the Southern Express agent, at Burkeville, had orders to refuse longer to interchange business with our ex¬ press, and this order was, on the 15th April, put in force, and as well by the Adams company at Lynchburg and elsewhere. In New York the ptublic were notified by the Adams company, that, in consequence of the withdrawal of the Southern Express from our road, no freight would be received for the stations on it :—and this affords the only clue to the refusal of these express compa¬ nies to continue to do business with our express, as they had been doing for three years before, and as they do with all other expre.ss carriers, and as other like carriers do with us. No attention was paid to the letter of our manager, a.sking a re¬ turn to such former business relations, nor was any explanation given for its discontinuance, but a policy of non-connection was rigidly enforced. To raise the embargo we proposed to ship freights for points off our line by the Adams and Southern Ex- 17 |)i'oísS conípaiiios, üs individuals, allowing our clmrgcs to be col¬ lected C. Ü. D., but tills was refused, notwithstanding our mana¬ ger is.sued ordei-s extending the same facilities to them. The Adams and Southern Express companies had a right to pursue this course. Kailways arc generally bound to terms of intercourse with their connections ; but these express ag'cncies are under no such re¬ straint. Ly the laws of our State they can run over such roads as they may select, connect with whom they please, and exclude such carriei-s as they may choose, without regard to the public conve¬ nience. If a railway does not choose to do its own express busi¬ ness, these agencies may do it if they please ; and if they do not, they are under no legal obligation so to do. They may deprive the public of the enjoyment of express facilities, at their will, by holding a railway to their own uses, and by refusing to connect with such other railways as may not agree to submit to their terms, or with such as they might not choose to operate. In this state of the ease, the necessity for making connections, in order to prevent ¡niblic interest from suffering, was obvious, and this company promptly proposed to the Danville and Richmond & Petersburg railroad companies, to the Daltiinorc Steam Packet company, and to the Old Dominion Steamship company, to unite with it as joint carriers in conducting an express business. Sim¬ ilar proposals were m:idc also to our connections west. The Balti¬ more and New York companies readily agreed, and thus express communication with those cities was restored. The Danville and the Richmond & Petei-sburg companies declined. Thus the mat¬ ter stands, and so Richmond is still deprived of express facilities with points along the line of our road. The correspondence be¬ tween our company and the Danville ha.s already been made pub¬ lic. In substance, it was stated that, inasmuch as the Southern Express company had discontinued all interchange of business with us at Burkeville, and at Petersburg, and our company desir¬ ing that Richmond should continue to enjoy express facilities with all points on its line, the Danville company was asked to join it to this end—receiving of us and delivering to us such freight as might offer, precisely upon the same terms as we now, and then, conduct¬ ed the freight business by tonnage trains ;—they assuming the re¬ sponsibility and delivery of all packages delivered to them by our 0 18 company, and accounting for its share of the charges,-—our com¬ pany receiving all packages from the Danville road on the same terms. The charter of the Danville road looks, in fact by express terms aims, by the line of that road, to secure for Richmond continuous transportation over the entire extent of our A., M. & O. road, as if the two were one and the same corporation. If there be any force in these terms, and any purpose in the legislative will thus expressed, wherefore do they not apply in respect to the matter of express freights ? If there be any obligation to interchange freights by tonnage trains, why not the same by passenger trains, though the privilege of such transportation shall be entrusted to another? If this be not so, and the obligations of the charter do not apply as to freights carried by passenger trains, then the full in¬ tent and objects of the franchise, in this important respect, may be readily subverted, and rendered nugatory, by subletting all- the freight business of the Danville road. If the Danville and Petersburg companies prefer that this busi¬ ness should be conducted by an independent agency; if they can¬ not see that they might as well do the business and make as much out of it, if not save for,themselves and their customers, all that profit, which is taken directl)' from the public to the exclusive be¬ nefit of these "intermediaries"—a profit on which they have not only been enabled to support a large corps of servants of their own, but to enrich their proprietors—it is their prerogative so to deter¬ mine, as we hold to our company's right to pursue that course which it conceives to be its proper interest, and its duty to the public as by every requirement of its charter imposed. If the hazards of the business were such, in their opinion, as to make prefer¬ able the responsibility of the express company to the fidelity of their own agents, and responsibility of their bondsmen; if they did not choose to require their agent, the express company, to do that, which the public convenience demanded—continue with our express, an interchange of business at Burkeville and Petersburg; if they were not willing themselves to do that, which would secure to Richmond a continuance of express fa¬ cilities, of which .she was deprived, no matter if there was some risk, and, in their opinion if you please, not so much profit, it was their right so to adjudge. But all this fails to furnish the 19 shadow of a reason, why our company should surrender the use of its property to the Southern Express company, upon any otiier terms than seem to it conservative of its best interest, and consistent witii its duty to the public considered as a whole, and not with reference to any decimal of that people :—to the citi¬ zens of the entire Commonwealth it was expressly created to serve. I have said there was no occasion, necessity, nor reason, known to us, for tlie discontinuance of the interchange at Norfolk, Pe¬ tersburg, Biirkeville and Lynchburg. It had worked successfully for tiiree years, and the failure of one of these express companies to make a contract over a part of our road did not, and cannot, justify that particular company for breaking existing satisfactory rela¬ tions with an express operating over the other part, much less justify the Adams company—a third party, so to speak—in the exercise of such an arbitrary course. This interchange extended to all manner of business. And now, when the Southern and Adams companies will not, any longer, interchange business with our company's express, for no fault on our part, as they had done for years past, as they do with other express agencies, and as other express companies do with us, and thus restore to Richmond communication by express with the line of our road, it does not follow, I shall presume to say, that our company should yield that, which it believes to be right in this matter ; or, that it should sacrifice the interests of the people along its line, from Bristol to Norfolk, and the advantages they enjoy, to the idea of a connection with one city, however much we might ardently desire to be in the most intimate relations with her citizens, and we will not believe that such will be expected on their part. Our express is serving its patrons at rates which are from fifteen to forty per cent, less than those which they formerly paid. The business is daily increasing in value and ex¬ tent ; liberal rates are stimulating shipments, and giving vitality to hitherto dormant industries. The trucking business of our Norfolk & Betersburg division, and the fowls, eggs, fresh meats, b itter, itc., along the line, are making u[» a handsome little t alfic for our road, and a source of no inconsiderable revenue to our people. Besides all this, our road is now, for the first time, receiving a fair remuneration from its local express business. In 20 187], the amount paid our Virginia & Tennessee division, for the transportation of local express by the Southern Express company, averaged S203 per month, while the company's revenue, on the same division, for the^?'si leeeh it conducted the business on its own account, was $237.52, nearlytimes as much, not¬ withstanding the lower rates at which the business was done.— In that year the Southern Express company paid that division for the local business of the year $2,436, while, in 1873, our local express, rigidly confined to a local business by the block¬ ade, which the Southern and Adams had, with the co-operatioii of some of our railroads, been enabled to enforce, returned for this division $16,291.25, clear of expenses ; and this, without taking into consideration the increased revenue on the other d^ visions, (Lynchburg to Norfolk) from $11,838.37 in 1S71, to $16,636.56 in 1873,—or nearly 50 j^er cent.—and the saving of the cost of hauling a car each way daily, between Lynchburg and Bristol. If our company had enjoyed, at the same time, the through business also, and it would have exhibited a like ratio of increase—mainly, perh.aps, the charges added by the express company to the consideration paid to the road—then the income to our company, when the express company paid twenty thousand, would have been nearer sixty thousand dollars. We submit then, upon our experience, which has but verified and confirmed the opinion, we have always entertained, that it is due to the public, and to our company's own proper interest, that this service should be, so far as can be done, performed by its own agents, rather than by intermediary corporations, and to their aggrandizement; and that the service may be quite suffi¬ ciently I'endered unto our own people, by the co-operation of connecting lines, and perfectly as to them and to all communi¬ ties, by that interchange of business, which is common,—ex¬ cept as to the Southern and the Adams, who refuse to hold such relations with us. If either the Adams or Southern Express companies, or the Danville, or the Richmond & Petersburg railroad companies have exhibited, not more but even, as much concern as our company has evinced for the accornmodation of the city of Richmond in this ponnection, we desire to be qdyisedT-^Wherein 1 pr if e.ny- thÍRgFemains íq ^9 done» whíoli cat) be reasonably a§bed it) the 21 premises, and which this company can properly do, we would earnestly enquire—What ? If these railroads will not, for the accommodation of that city, join us in an express service, have they no power to compel its rendition by their agent, the Southern Express company ?— Wherefore is it that that concern refuses to do with us that, which it does with others, what other express companies do with us, and that which, it must be admitted, is all that is neces¬ sary to restore to Richmond the full enjoyment of express facil¬ ities with our line? Is it because they desire to monopolize the business, and, upon their own chosen terms ; or, is it that the shallow pretext of an excuse is oflered tiiat they do not care to share the responsibility of joint-carriage with our company? If the latter, why not so at the time, when they interchanged busi¬ ness with our company for three t'ears, when they solicited an expression of responsibility, and were satisfied with that which was promptly given ? And what is their responsibility after all, under the form of the receipt or contract they grant to shippers. There, they assume to he mere forwarders, denying and expressly absolving themselves from all liability for freights intrusted to tiiem for delivery, while being transported by tiie railways. To whom then shall the shipper look for indemnity in the case of loss, unless they .shall especially contract for delivery as insurers? Under the laws of our State not to the railroad company. The express company may, and they do pay, small losses, as a matter of policy ; but tlicy arc not liable, according to late decisions of the courts in cases contested by them. But you advise me that the Southern Express company and the Richmond & Danville, and Richmond & Petersburg railroad companies are now willing that our company should run over their roads its express, upon the same terms which are granted to the Southern Express company. How it comes to pass that the permission of the Southern Express company is necessary to the extension of the grant proposed, for so it would appear, I am at a loss to conceive. Was this offer made in good faith, and as an earnest of the desire of the parties to accommodate the views of your committee ? Is it tendered as a concession of anything ? If 80, it displays an unfortunate lack of knowledge of the law, wbicb governs the corporations tbe'J' and ourselves fespectivcly 22 represent ; otherwise a seeming indifference for the interest in¬ volved, and for the concern your committee have taken in the matter. Common carriers are bound to grant to all customers the same rates and facilities under like circumstances. Is this then all these Richmond terminating roads are prepared to do? Is it all which their agent, the Southern Express company, will permit, in furtherance of your desire, and that of our company, for the restoration of express facilities between our line and the city of Richmond ? This gracious and generous tender is but an empty offering. Did these companies not know that our company could not exercise such privilege? That while it could do an express business over its own line, and over another as joint car¬ rier with it directly, or by its agent, it had no power to engage in such business in any other wise. I have only to add that our company is now, as it has ever bexn, not only willing, but anxious, to advance, by every proper means at its command, the welfare of Richmond ; and, in this matter, has done all it can well do, and maintain a just regard for all other interests. We are ready noio, as always, to take any ex¬ press matter brought to us by the Danville or Richmond & Pe¬ tersburg roads, either by themselves or by their agent, the ex¬ press company; to assume charges and make delivery, and to deliver, in like manner, to them any express matter we may have for Richmond, or for points along the line of those roads—money parcels, or any other packages, in any amount and of any value —at rates not higher, but in many cases less, than before charged upon similar matter, when our tariff is taken as the basis. We are ready to join these roads—as expressly authorized by law, and as if to stimulate our railways to do their own express business—in the formation and performance of an express ser¬ vice as between the city of Richmond, the line of their roads, and all points upon our company's line. And if it shall be ob¬ jected that the length of road to. be employed is too dispropor¬ tionate to conduct the business on the pro-rate basis, the rule ap¬ plied to freights by freight trains-might as well be denied. But this is an insignificant detail, which can be easily adjusted, when the parties are otherwise agreed as to the service. 23 If our company had the power to run an express over the Danville and Petersburg roads, as proposed, it would not hesi¬ tate to do so, at such rates as are charged the Southern Ex¬ press company. And it would do this more to relieve the blockade to which the city of Richmond has been, and is, subjected, by rea¬ son of the position taken by the Southern Express company, and the Danville and Petersburg roads, than from any desire, to en¬ gage in the business, otherwise than now provided by law. Neither the cost, probable profits or liabilities of tbe underta¬ king, (they are as nothing) would restrain our company from go¬ ing thus to j'our relief. Yours, truly, Wil. MAHONE, President. To M. S. Valextixe, Esq., Cluiirman Committee, &c. Richmond, Va. r» IC :N^ D I X . EXTRACTS FROM THE REPORT OP SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON RAILROADS, APPOINTED BY THE OHIO SENATE, SESSION OF 18G7, REIjATIVE TO FAST FREIGHT AND EXPRESS COMPANIES. HOIV THE PROFITS ARE MADE. The Union Railroad & Transportation company, known as the Star Union Line, is a corporation under tlie laws of Pennsylvania, organized in tlie fall of 18G3, with a capital of §1,400,000, subse¬ quently increased to §3,000,000, and went into operation January, 1864. It operates over the Pennsylvania Central road, and ex¬ tends from its termini eastwardly and westwardly over roads lead¬ ing to and connected with the Central road. Its principal movers were commis.sion agents of that road in Philadelphia and Pitts¬ burg, and it is said to embrace a portion of the officers of the road among its managers and stockholders. Its stock was extensively distributed and sold at various prices ; to railroad men in Ohio, so far as we have learned, at fifty per cent, of its par value. * * * This comj>any has paid upon its stock, since it went into operation, a steady dividend of one per cent, a month, with a surplus that has increased its assets to an amount probably ex¬ ceeding the par value of its capit.al stock i.ssueendent existence, in some cases. From tast'unony of Erasmus Gest, President and General Su¬ perintendent of Cineinnati et Zanesville railroad : Q,. What advantage are express companies or fast freiglit lines either to railroads or shijipers, and how far can either be dispensed with without prejudice to railroads or shippers? A. Express companies that arc organized and conducted for the sole purpose of taking charge of moneys, valuables and articles, such as require special peraonal supervision or care in Siife-keeping, handling or transmission and delivery, and will bear the extra cost attending such personal attention, custody and rapidity of transit, are of advantage to the public and railroad companies. * * Tiiey are not, however, essential to railroads, shippers or the pub¬ lic lor transporting other articles ; they cannot give greater dis¬ patch, nor malx more prompt sMlemcnts in case of loss or damage. Fast freight lines or dispatch lines ai-e wholly unnecessary ; they can do nothing of themselves to hasten or forward merchandise. They are parasites to the proprietary interests of our railway property, and however disinterestedly gotten up, cannot fail to re- lleet upon the integrity and competency of railroad managers.— They necessarily enhance the cost and charges between the producer and consumer, and therefore arc an additional cost to the shi])per. Railroads are only common carriers, and ius such should be pre¬ pared to receive and promptly dispatch, icithout the intervention of a third party, the merchandise and ])roj)erty seeking transpor¬ tation, leaving the question of route to the election of the shipper. The tendency of existing liest freight and dispatch lines, whether ownetl by individuals, or a corporation made up of the managers of railroad corn|)anies, is to build iq) powerful monopolies. now TilK MOXOl'OI.Y IS .MAIXTAIXED. From testimony of Alfred Gaither, Superintendent of the Western Division of the ¡Vilams Express company : (¿. A\'hat territon.' does your line cover and ON^er what j)nneipal lines does it operate ? A. Oar territory commences at Boston on the east, extending through and including the States of Bhode Island and Connecti- O o cut, New York city. New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Mary¬ land, District of Colunrbia, and Virginia, as far south as Richmond ; thence westwardly, including Southwestern Ohio, Southern In¬ diana, Illinois and Missouri, and the State of Kentucky. We occupy all the principal lines of travel Avithin these limits for the purpose of our business. Q. Is there any understanding betAveen your company and the United States and American Express companies as to division of territory. A. More than twenty years ago, and at the time Avhen Adams & Co. and the American Express company were making their first approaches to the Western States a territorial agreement was en¬ tered into betAveen these parties, by virtue of Avhich the principal line of railroad from Pittsburg to Crestline, thence southwardly to Cincinnati, became the boundary betAveen them in Ohio—all north and west thereof belonging to the American, and all south and east thereof belonging to Adams & Co. The line of the Terra Haute and Richmond railroad and a line draAvn west from Terra Haute, through Vandalia and St. Louis, determined the territory of the parties west of Ohio, and all north of that line belonging to the American, and south thereof to Adams & Co. All the lines of road, within the territory thus stipulated, as belonging to the American Express company, are at this time occupied by either that company or the United States. HOW INTRUDERS (?) ARE TREATED. From testimony of L. G. Hopkins, Trustee and General Mana¬ ger Merchants Union Express company, for Cincinnati, Southern Ohio and Indiana. Q. Have you any relations Avith the other express companies, or arrangements for the transaction of business with them ? A. We have not. They have refused, or, at least, some of them have refused to do business Avith us. The United States Express company are instructed, in circular form, by their General Super¬ intendent, Mr. Kipp, to have nothing Avhatever to do with us.— 'Jhe Adams Expi-ess Company refused to take packages for us, un- /«■w we, would pre-pay the freiykt. Wc oiTcrcd a few packages on the 18th of this montli, to tlie agent of the Harnden Express company, to ship to different points in Ohio, to whieli our line had not yet been established ; the packages were refused and re¬ turned by the express man to our office. We also, during the last week, sent a package to the office of the Adams Express company, for Memphis, Tenn., to which point their line extends ; they re- fusetb. THE QUESTION OF RESPONSIßlUITV. A ca-se lias recently been deeiclecl by Jiuljre Bullard, of the Uni¬ ted States District Court, in Kentucky, which presents certain points as to the question of the liability of exjiress companies, which it may be well to consider in connection with the contro¬ versy upon express business, which has lately been had. The • case grew out of a lawsuit against the Adams Express company, for the recovery of §13,458.14, which was shijiped some five years ago from New Orleans to Louisville, Ky. The money was in charge of a messenger in the express car, which, with the balance of the train, fell through a bridge, took fire, and, with its contents, was burned. Jjcaving out the matters decided not pertinent to our subject, we find the judge decided that "the express company was in no way responsible for the condition of the railroad. ' If the accident occurred through the negligence of the railroad company in not keejiing the bridge in proper repair, that circumstance gives no right of action against the express company. It is not responsi¬ ble for the negligence of those who own the vehicles in which goods are carrieil, and the roads over which they are run. All that the company (express) is required to do, is to use reasonable care in the selection of vehicles, and put them in charge of trustwor¬ thy jiersons. If the accident is occasioned by the negligence or unskillfulness of any of the express company's agents, then it is rcs|)onsible, but not otherwise." Now, it will be observed, that the liability of the express com- jtany only extends to the safe-keeping and delivery of matter en- trustei)se this cannot be proved, then the shipper is without remedy. His express receipt is of no value, and the ctmsidcration he has paid for the transportation and custody of his pri)i)erty had as well been thrown away. 36 It has taken five years in this case to find out that the «xprea= company was not liable here ; and if the case is carried to the Su¬ preme Court, several years must elapse before a final hearing is had. If the judgment of the lower courts is affirmed, and the shipper has any right to go back upon tlie railroad company, sev¬ eral more yeai-s will then perhaps go by ere that case is reached and a decision had. All this delay, cost and vexation would be avoided if railroads did their own express business. There would be no mixed liabili¬ ty, but the question of responsibility would at onup be narrowed down to the particular road Avhere the loss occurred. It must be remembered that the Adams and Southern Express companies are foreign corporations, and to reach them suit must be brought in the United States district courts ; they are not amenable to Virginia courts, and the decision in this case will be a precedent in other cases in kindred courts. Not so with our railroads ; they are creatures of a Virginia Legislature, are amenable to Virginia laws, and to the orders of Virginia courts. They could not plead the negligence or fault of another in their behalf. Whatever of lia¬ bility there was Avould attach at once and directly to them. Which is preferable, direct or doubtfully mixed responsibility? This subject brings to us to inquire on Avhat terms of responsibility, in what capacity, are these express companies doing business for our people. Read the contract they require all shippers by them to come under. They are by its express terms mere forwarders, de¬ nying and absolving themselves from all responsibility for any loss or damage to matter taken by them for delivery, while being con¬ veyed by the carriers, the railways. Where then is the safety and the recourse of shippers by these intermediaries ? FORM OF RECEIPT GIVER. ADAMS EXPRESS COMPANY, Great Eastern, Western and Southern Express Forwarders, No. 180. [Domestic Bill op Lading.] 187 . Received of , value , for which this Company charges , marked , Which it is mutually agreed is to be forwarded to our Agencv nearest or most convenient to destination only, and there delivered to other parties to complete the transportation. It is part of the consideration of this contract, and it is agrreed, that the said Exjiress Company ARE FORWARDERS ONLY, and are not to be held liable or re.tporasible for any loss or damage to said property while being conveyed by the. Carriers to whom the same may he by said Express Company intrusted, or arising from the dan¬ gers of Railroads, Ocean or River Navigation, Steam, Fire in Stores, Depots, or in Transit, Leakage, Breakage, or from any cause what¬ ever, unless, in every case, the same be proved to have occurred from the fraud or gross negligence of said Express Company or their servants; nor, in any event, shall the holder hereof demand beyond the sum of Fifty Dollars, at which the article forwarded is hereby valued, unless otherwise herein expressed, or unless spe¬ cially insured by them, and so specified in this receipt, which in¬ surance shall constitute the limit of the liability of the Adams Express Company. And if the same is entrusted or delivered to any odier Express Company or Agent (which said Express Company are hereby authorized to do), such Company or person so selected shall be regarded exclusively as the agent of the shipper or owner, and as stich alone liable, and the Adams Express Company shall not be, in any ettent, responsible for the negligence or non-perform¬ ance of any such Company or person, and the shi[)per and owner hereby severally agree that all the stipulations and conditions in this receipt contained, shall extend to and inure to the benefit of each and every Company or person to whom the Adams Express Company may intrust or deliver the above-described property for transportation, and shall define and limit the liability therefor of such other Company or person. In no event shall the Adams Express Company be liable for any loss or damage, unless the claim therefor shall be presented to them in writing at this office, within thirty days after this date, in a stafetnent to which this re¬ ceipt shall be annexed. All articles of Glass or contained in Glass, or any of a fragile nature, will be taken at Shipper's risk only, and the shipper agrees that the company shall not be held respon¬ sible for any injury by breakage or otherwise, nor for damage to goorAHONE, PreVi, Mr. Plant, President Southern Express ■ Company, advises me, under date of yesterday, that arrangements for an interchange of business had been made with you. We wish your confirmation by telegraph. MANN S. VALENTINE, CAm'n.* (Teleirram.) Petersburg, Va., Nov. 2, 1874. Mann S. Valentine, Esq , Chm'n, Á'C; Richmond, Va. As to the fact merely vour information is correct. WM. MAHONE, President. Petersburg, Va., Nov. —, 1874. De.ar Sir : Referring to your letter to me, dated 22d July, and considering that yourcommittee had itsorigin, as isgenerally under¬ stood, and will hardly be denied, in a belief that tiieeity of Rich¬ mond had been deprived of Express laeilities in connection with the A., M. & O. R. R., by the inconsiderate, contrary, if not un¬ warrantable action of that Railroad Ccmpany—based, it is true, upon ex parte, if not upon unworthy and irresponsible statements; and in view of the fact that it is well known to the public, that yourcommittee have been fora long time actively and earnestly engaged in an investigation—a course of full discovery—which contemplated, at least, a justification or a refutation of such ; if, indeed, it was not thir to presume, that the committee would go well to the bottom of the w hole matter, they had under such cir¬ cumstances and in a sense voluntarily undertaken to investigate and give to the public, not only the tacts elicited, but that impar¬ tial judgme nt and independent opinion, which such investigation 4 and facts should warrant—not only that even justice ini^ht be done, but that every interest concerned in the matter of Express transportation in Virginia might profit, as well in the present as by protecjion in the future, from such just conclusions in that re¬ spect as they, the committee, should reach—allow me, most re- spectfuîî|i^ to ask, if the committee have abandoned the subject, and have now no report to make ? I am, dear sir, vour ob't serv't, V-, WM. MAIÍONE, Pres'i. Mann S. Vai.entine, Chairman, Richmond, Va. Richmond, Dec. llth, 1874. Gev. Wm. Ma hone, ' Rres'i A., M. & 0. R. R. Co. Dear Sie : Yours of November—-having been received /ind considered by us, we would state that wo do not feel at liberty, without the express direction of the body of business men whom we.represent, to make any publication of our proeecilings, or of the correspondence had by us as a committee. J^ersonaliy, and as a committee, we are induced to apprehend that from a publication there might result ditfcrcuces of opinion and controver.sies which we hope are now happily eettlcd and removed. We take pleasure, however, in saying for your satisfaction, that, we have not found any warrantable ground in your past proceed¬ ings, as understood by us, for such aspers'ions and ungenerous ru¬ mors as you allege to have existed in connection witii tiie Expre.ss facilities, and we believe that you have been actuated by no un- triendiy or illiberal feeling towards the public or the community of Richmond in this matter. MANN S. N'ALENTINE, Chmin. JAMES A. SEDDON, SAM'L W. PRICE, R. E. BLANKENSHIP, A. 1j. ELLETT. THOMAS POTTS, C. D. HILL, J. L. BACON, GARRET F. WATSON, WM. H. PALMER. The foregoing correspondence touching the Express Question, is submitted in connection with the pamphlet on the subject. Comment forborne.