Author. Title Imprint 16-7-39289-1 GPO THE POLICY OF THE GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GENERAL ELECTION. A SPEECH DELIVERED TO HIS CONSTITUENTS IN THE TOWN HALL, BIRMINGHAM, On TUESDAY, JUNE 7th, 1881, RIGHT HON. JOSEPH CHAMBERLAIN, M.P. (President of the Board of Trade.) PUBLISHED BY THE NATIONAL LIBERAL FEDERATION, Offices : Atlas Chambers, Paradise Street, Birmingham. iz\ : MR. CHAMBERLAIN'S SPEECH ON THE POLICY OF THE GOVERNMENT SINCE THE GENERAL ELECTION, DELIVERED IN THE BIRMINGHAM TOWN HALL. Mr. Chamberlain, who was received with loud and continued applause, said : Mr. Chairman, ladies, and gentlemen, — I hope I may take the friendly welcome which you have just extended to me as a proof that you share the pleasure which I undoubtedly feel in being once more permitted to address you. (Applause.) I cannot allow this opportunity to pass without saying how deeply sensible I am of the consideration which you have shown, both for the pressure of work, and also for the occasional reserve which is imposed upon men in office, and which has induced you to dispense with those frequent meetings which have hitherto been a feature in the relations between your representatives and yourselves. But I can truly assure you that I am glad once more to meet you face to face. (Applause.) Much has happened since that general election in which you took no inconsiderable part, and I have been naturally anxious for an opportunity of submitting to you the proceedings in which I have since borne a share, and of asking upon them your judgment and your opinion. (Cheers.) And therefore I have come down to you from the very thick of the battle which has been waged, almost without cessation, since this Government took office — not without hope, based on ihe experience of the past, on difficulties overcome, and on dangers surmounted, and not without anxiety and even alarm when I contemplate the future, which is still dark with many clouds. But I hope, gentlemen, that I may be fortunate enough to take hack with me the assurance of your continued sympathy and support — (loud cheers) — without which, I can assure you, public life would be only a barren and thankless task. Now, there was one result of the general election which I neither foresaw nor predicted, and that was that I should be called upon to take part in the Government which was rendered possible by the victory which you helped to achieve. (Applause.) I accepted the office which Mr. Gladstone graciously offered me — (cheers) — not without some hesitation, both because I naturally distrusted my own qualifications after so short an experience of Parliamentary life, and also because I could not surrender without regret that full indepen- dence which I had enjoyed as a private member. If I had been alone concerned in the matter, it would have been a small question ; but I felt that when a member of Parliament takes office, his con- stituents also are called upon to share the sacrifice which he makes in this respect. A Liberal Government which pretends to represent the Liberal party must of necessity consist of men of different shades of opinion. They are all animated by the same principles, they are all going in the same direction, but the order of progress and the rate of progress, and even the instruments and means by which progress is to be accomplished, are capable of infinite variety, and no man has any right to expect, under such circumstances, that he will always be able to have his own way. Everyone must be prepared to make some concessions, and all must be ready — so much I have learnt in my experience in Birmingham — to accept and to endeavour to carry out the will of the majority when it is expressed after fair discussion. But although I state this as an element and a condition of all governments — although without this no union and association is ever possible— I venture to add that in Mr. Gladstone's Ministry I believe you haAe a Government which has been more united upon the main principles which should dictate its action than any Govern- ment before them confronted with questions of equal magnitude and equal complexity. (Applause.) And I am here to assert that, speaking generally — because I do not stand upon isolated acts or upon particular decisions — but I say that speaking generally, we have maintained the views which we expressed when 'we were in Opposition — the views which received the assent of an overwhelming majority of the nation. The Liberal party was returned to power because the country was disgusted and alarmed at the policy of reckless adventure which was pursued by the late Administration. Since that time twelve months have passed, and neither we nor they have changed. In the latest speeches of the responsible leaders of the Opposition you find that the same spirit lives in them, that they have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing in adversity, and that they are, "even in penance, planning sins again." (Laughter.) They criticise, as they are entitled to do, the acts of the present Ministry in severe terms, but it is evident that if they were to take our places they have nothing to otter as an alternative to the policy they condemn — (cheers) — but the old policy, which has been dis- credited by the country — the policy of secret agreements and open aggression— the policy which embarrassed the finances of the empire, which harassed our trade and our industry, and which threatened to involve us any day in calamity and disaster. (Applause.) I am glad to think that the issue can be so plainly stated as it has been recently by Lord Salisbury, in the speeches which he has delivered. It is true that what he has said has been subsequently in a slight degree modified by the gloss which Sir Stafford ISTorthcote has attempted to put upon it. But then Sir Stafford Northcote is retained for this purpose. (Loud laughter and applause.) It is his business to reassure the timid and to minimise the truculent declara- tions of other leaders of his party, and he reminds me of the descrip- tion which was given of Madame Blaize in Goldsmith's poem — " She strove the neighbourhood to please With manners wondrous winning, She never followed wicked ways — Except when she was sinning." (Laughter and applause.) We have, however, to bear in mind that after all it is Lord Salisbury, and not Sir Stafford Northcote, who dictates the polic\' of the Conservative party — (hear, hear)— and I am here to-night to ask whether, since the general election, when yon pronounced your decision upon matters which were submitted to you, you have changed your mind. (Cries of "No, no.") Do you want the Tories back again ? (No, no.) Are you willing once more to relegate to a distant future all prospect of domestic reform in order to enter again upon a policy of meddlesome interference and wanton aggression 1 (No.) I hardly expected that you would have changed your opinion after so short a time, and if you have not, then let us consider together, if you will have patience with me — let us consider together what progress has been made in an opposite direction. Jf we have not been so successful as you and I would have desired, that is partly because we have inherited a situation which we did not make for ourselves. (Hear, hear.) I sometimes regret that we could not have done what is so frequently done in the case of the transfer of a business from one firm to another, and that we could not have left the late firm to pay its own debts and wind up its own law suits — (laughter and applause) — and to leave us free to start on a new enterprise. Just consider if that had been possible, what would be the state of the account now. The Tories would he debited with the war in Afghanistan, and the extra Id. in the income tax, which that war and the other obligations which they contracted have involved, They would have to accept the conse- quences of their annexation of the Transvaal, as well as to pay the balance of the cost of the Zulu War ; they would have had to answer for the acquisition of Cyprus — (oh, oh) — with its permanent deficit, and with all the unrest and disquiet which has been produced in Europe in consequence. They would have had to carry out as best they might the provisions of the Berlin Treaty, and they would have had, in a large measure at all events, to share with us the responsibility of the situation in Ireland — (hear, hear) — which is partly clue to their neglect of all remedial legislation — (hear, hear) — at a time when moderate measures would have prevented the troubles in which we now find ourselves involved, (Applause.) And then, while they were employed in thus liquidating their estate- — and indeed I think they would have found it difficult to pay 20s. in the pound — our hands would have been free to carry on those great remedial measures which are required almost as much by the people of England and Scotland — (hear, hear) — as they are desired and claimed by the people of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Unfortunately, no such division of labour has been possible. The first duty which was imposed upon the Government by the mandate of the constituencies was to set in order, as far as that might be possible, the affairs which the Conservatives had left in such admired confusion. (Laughter.) We have made some progress, I venture to think, and with regard to that portion of the work which we have completed, the silence of our opponents is the best testimony of our success, and it is also the best augury for the future. You know at the last general election what the Tories relied upon — their success in administering foreign affairs. (Laughter.) It was admitted that we Liberals might perhaps be good at the drudgery of domestic administration, but it was said that if we undertook the conduct of the Imperial relations with other countries we should infallibly bring about war, calamity, and disaster. "Well, what has actually happened ? The concert of Europe, which our opponents have constantly ridiculed as impossible, has been maintained, and it has been powerful enough to effect the settlement of the difficult and irritating questions which at one time threatened a renewal of the war in the -East. And during the negotiations at Constantinople which Mr. Goschen — (loud applause) — has carried to a successful conclusion, with an ability, and skill, and patience, and courage which have secured for him the applause of the House of Commons and the gratitude of his countrymen — (applause) — England took the lead, and the influence of England, which forsooth was to be destroyed when a Liberal Government came into power, never stood higher in Europe than it is at the present moment. (Applause.) Not because we have asserted any predominant interest in this question, not because we have put forward any pretensions to dictate to the Powers of Europe, but because it has been recognised that we have been frankly and honestly seeking, not our selfish ambition, but the common good of all and the peace and prosperity of Europe. (Applause.) Well, now I claim that this, at all events, is the fulfilment of one of the pledges which Mr. Gladstone gave — (applause) — before the general election ; and I ask you to observe that if that election had resulted differently it is not conceivable that the Montenegrin question and that the Greek question could have been settled without war by those who have always derided and held to be impossible any union of the Powers for common objects — by those who have pro- tested against any pressure on the Sultan, and especially against the naval demonstration, who have sneered at the claims of Greece, and who, while pretending to protect Turkey from the possibility of partition, were so eager to take their share in the spoil that they did not hesitate to suggest to other nations that they may pick out each their own piece of the plunder — (applause) — provided that they would wink at our proceedings. I do not think I need detain you at any length. (Go on.) What I need say, in fact, is not more than a sentence or two with regard to the action of the Government in Afghanistan. (A voice, " Candahar.") The account of our proceedings in that country constitutes the darkest chapter in the history of our Indian Empire. (Applause.) It is a chapter which will tell future generations how we entered upon a course of wanton aggression in order to obtain a scientific frontier — (laughter) — it will tell how British statesmen were instructed to create a pretext for the invasion of a free and friendly State ; and I thank God that that chapter, at all events, has been closed — (" hear, hear," and applause) — and I hope that it may never be continued. (Hear, hear.) But here, also, I ask you in passing to bear in mind that we learn from the action and from the speeches of the Conservative Opposition that if they had remained in power they would have continued in the same baneful course — they would have maintained the occupation of Can- dahar in spite of its injustice, in spite of the expense and the respon- sibility — and they would have done this, though it was certain to have involved us in almost permanent hostility with the Afghan people. But I pass on to consider graver and more critical questions — 9 questions which are still pending, and upon which, indeed, I cannot even now make a full exposition of our policy, although I think I may state enough to show the general principles by which we have been actuated, and to challenge your judgment upon them. (Hear, hear.) I want to speak to you on the question of Ireland — -(loud cheers) — but I will reserve what I have to say for a few minutes while I ask your attention, in the first place, to the settlement which we have recently made of the unfortunate war in the Transvaal. (Hear, hear.) This settlement has been the object of violent attack in the House of Peers. You have been told that it constitutes a dismemberment of the empire ; that it is a national surrender ; you have been told for the hundredth time that it has destroyed the prestige of England ; and that it has caused Earl Cairns to blush, who never blushed before. (Laughter and applause.) Well, sir, these are terrible calamities, especially the last — (laughter) — but before we consider how far these accusations can be sustained, let me ask yon to think seriously what is the alternative which it is said we ought to have adopted. We are accused of dismembering the empire, and to avoid this we ought, in the opinion of our opponents, to have maintained the annexation of the Transvaal. That annexation was made by the Conservative Government upon two distinct assurances. They declared, in the first place, upon information which was supplied to them, that the majority of the white inhabitants of the Transvaal desired the transfer, and they declared that unless it were effected we should infallibly be involved in a native war, which would endanger our South African possessions. Well, you all know that after that transfer was effected Ave found ourselves, in spite of it, immediately involved in tAvo native Avars — one with Cetewayo and the Zulu people, and the other Avith Secocoeni ; and you kuow, and they knoAv iioav if they did not knoAv before, that the great majority of the Boer inha- bitants of the Transvaal are bitterly hostile to the English rule — (hear, hear) — and yet we are told that we ought to have persevered in wrong-doing, after it was proved that the two grounds upon which the annexation was defended Avere fallacious, and rested on no solid foundation — that we should still force our rule on an unwilling people, whose independence we had solemnly engaged by treaty to respect. 10 (A_p2ilau.se.) And this we were to do in order to spare Lord Cairns the unwonted blush with which he graced his peroration and alarmed his brother peers. (Laughter.) I will not at this moment stop to question the morality of such a step as that, but I want you to think for a moment of the expediency of it, of the wisdom of those states - men who recommend such a course to Her Majesty's Government. It has been proved to us that the Boers are at all events brave soldiers ■ — (hear, hear) — that they are physically, at least, a match even for English soldiers. The Transvaal is a country as large as France — a wild and difficult country — and it is perfectly evident to everyone that if we are to hold it down by force we must permanently maintain there a number of troops at least equal to the number of our possible opponents. Well, we know also that the Orange Free State, which is a neighbouring territory, would make common cause with their co- religionists and men of the same nationality in the Transvaal ; and therefore I say that it is perfectly certain that not less than from 15,000 to 20,000 English troops must be permanently stationed there if we are to hold that country by force and against the will of the inhabitants. And to what end are we to do this ] To prevent the dismemberment of the Empire. Why, the annexation was only reluctantly accepted by Lord Carnarvon three years ago. The terri- tory has only been in our hands for a short three years, and it came into our possession upon information which we now know to be incorrect. And if we let them go, this population of -10,000 — a population less than that contained in any one of the sixteen wards of this town in which I am speaking — why this dismembered Empire of ours Mall still contain 250,000,000 of subjects to the Queen, to rule whom well and wisely is a duty and a responsibility which I think is sufficient even for the wildest ambition. Well, but we are told that there is another course which has recommended itself to some of our critics, and that is that we should have used the overwhelming forces which we placed at the disposal of Sir Evelyn Wood in order to attack the Boers, and that then, after we had defeated them in a bloody encounter — military honour being satisfied — we might have retired from the Tiansvaal, which we should have rendered desolate by the slaughter of many of its brave defenders. (Hear, hear.) Before such 11 a recommendation as that should commend itself to your minds, and to mine, let us consider for a moment what sort of people these are whom we are asked to treat in this revengeful way. The Boers are not naturally a warlike race, they are a homely, industrious, and somewhat rude and uncivilised nation of farmers, living on the pro- duce of the soil. They are animated by a deep and somewhat stern religious sentiment, and they inherit from their ancestors — -the men who won the independence of Holland from the oppressive rule of Philip II. of Spain — they inherit from them their unconquerable love of freedom and of liberty. Are not these qualities which commend themselves to men of the English race? (Applause.) Are they not virtues which we are proud to believe form the best characteristics of the English people 1 Is it against such a nation that we are to be called ujdoii to exercise the dread arbitrament of arms 1 These men settled in the Transvaal in order to escape foreign rule. They had had many quarrels with the British. They left their homes in Natal as the English Puritans left England and went to the United States, and they founded a little Republic of their own in the heart of Africa; and in 1852 we made a treaty with them, and they agreed to give up slavery, " which had hitherto prevailed in their midst, and we agreed to respect and to guarantee their independence ; and I say, under these circum- stances, is it possible we could maintain a forcible annexation of the country without incurring the accusation of having been guilty, I won't say of national folly, but I say of national crime 1 (Applause.) That was the way in which the matter was understood by the late Government, who were not particularly scrupulous about these matters, but they distinctly instructed Sir Theophilus Shepstone, who was their representative in South Africa, not to take over the Transvaal unless he was satisfied that the majority of the people wished for the change. He did satisfy himself, as we know now, upon insufficient and inaccurate information. The annexation was submitted to Parliament, and T am glad to think ihat on that occasion I was one of the small minority who voted against the pro- ceeding. (Applause.) At the same time, I will frankly admit, there were very strong arguments indeed to justify the majority in the 12 course which they took — arguments based upon the assurances which were given to us by the Government. That was in 1877. Shortly afterwards the Zulu war broke out and the Boers remained quiet. I daresay they were not unnaturally very well satisfied to see the English doing their work for them, fighting and destroying their former enemies. At all events, they contented themselves with protests, and memorials, and deputations to this country. The late Government rejected their petitions, and refused to re-consider the question of annexation, and so matters stood when we came into office. About that time we were all agreed — there was no difference of opinion — that the original annexation was a mistake, that it ought never to have been made- — (hear, hear) — and then there arose the question, could it then be undone 1 It is very easy to do evil ; it is not so easy to escape the consequences of it — (applause) — or to put things back again in the same position in which they would have been if they had been untouched. We were in possession of information to the effect that the great majority of the people of the Transvaal were reconciled to annexation. We were told that if we reversed the decision of the late Government there was a great probability of civil war and anarchy, and, acting upon these representations, we decided that we could not recommend the Queen to relinquish her sovereignty, but we assured the Boers that we would take the earliest opportunity of granting to them the freest and the most complete local institu- tions which might be found compatible with the welfare of South Africa. You know it is not difficult to be wise after the event. It is not difficult to see now that we did wrong in so deciding. I frankly admit that we made a mistake. I say that whatever the risk was — and I believe it was a great one — of civil war or anarchy in the Transvaal, if we had reversed the decision, it was not so great a danger as that which we actually incurred by maintaining the wrong- doing of our predecessors. But let me show you what was the kind of information upon which we acted. We received despatches to the same effect, which were continued almost to the actual outbreak of hostilities. We l-eceived a despatch, dated November 19th, 1880, from Sir Owen Lanyon, who was administrating the Transvaal, in which he said " three-fourths of the population are secretly in favour 13 of annexation. The action of a few agitators must not be taken to be the opinion of the country, and there is not much, if any, cause for anxiety in the state of affairs." In a despatch, dated December 5th, he repeated similar sentiments. On December 1 6th, barely ten days later, the Boers broke out into open insurrection. They established a provisional government, and they hoisted the old flag of the Republic at Heidelburg. "Well, there was then, at all events, no longer the possibility of a doubt as to the state of affairs. It was perfectly evident under those altered conditions that we should have to make new arrangements ; but at the same time it was necessary that we should be in a position to take guarantees, in the first place, for the safety of loyal settlers, if there were any such, in the Transvaal ; in the second place for the good treatment of the native population who had accepted our rule ; and, in the third place, against the recurrence of quarrels with native tribes across the borders, which might lead to difficulties in South Africa. And therefore we hurried forward reinforcements with such speed that, when later on the con- ditions of peace were arranged by Sir Evelyn Wood, he had under his command something like 12,000 troops — more than the total adult male popiilation of the whole of the Boers in the Transvaal. Now, just let me say in passing a word about Sir Evelyn Wood. He is known to you — he is known to every Englishman as one of the bravest soldiers, as one of the most skilful commanders in the British service. (Applause.) But I say that in my humble judg- ment he has earned a higher title to admiration and to the respect of his fellow-countrymen by his loyalty in carrying out satisfactory terms of settlement, by resisting the temptation which might well be strong to a soldier of using his overwhelming force in order to revenge, a military disaster, than he would have clone if he had won the greatest victory, or had entered the Transvaal in triumph over the dead bodies of its slain. (Applause.) While, then, the Government were preparing for every event, we did not think that we were justified — ■ and it is for you to say how far you agree with us — we did not think we were justified in closing the door to a peaceful settlement. (Hear, hear.) The overtures for this settlement came in the first instance from President Brand, a man who is deserving of the hearty recog- 14 nition of every friend of peace. (Applause.) He is the President of the Orange Free State. He has done his best to prevent his fellow countrymen from going into the war, and to put a stop to the unnecessary effusion of blood. And in the second place, overtures came from the Boer leaders. Mr. Kruger, their Vice-president, wrote to Sir George Colley to say that he was confident of the justice of his cause ; and he was so certain that the English people, if they only knew the true facts, would do him right, that he was willing to submit the case to a Royal Commission, to be appointed by the Queen. Well, sir, we thought that those were terms which ought to be accepted — (applause) — and we instructed Sir George Colley, if certain conditions could be obtained, to arrange for a settlement upon that basis. Among the conditions, the first and most important was that the Boers should desist from armed opposition. But while the correspondence was going on, in the midst of the -negotiations, unfortunately, on three several occasions, the British troops marching in inferior numbers to attack the strong position of the Boers, met with a repulse. Those events were deplored by us, as they must be by everyone, but they did not seem to us to constitute a reason why we should withdraw the offer which we had previously made. (Applause.) In those attacks we were the aggressors — not the Boers — and our losses, greatly as we grieve for them, did not make the original cause of war more just — they did not make the prolongation of this miserable and inglorious struggle more desirable and expedient. (Hear, hear.) And therefore, when Sir Evelyn Wood, acting on his own responsibility, arranged for an armistice, we approved his pro- ceedings. (Applause.) And when the terms of peace were arranged, when the Boers accepted our offer, as we had originally made it, we rejoiced in the prospect of a settlement without further effusion of blood, whether of Englishmen or Dutchmen — (applause) — and we did not think the English people would feel themselves to be humiliated because their Government had refused knowingly to persist in a course of oppression and wrong-doing, and because we had accepted, without a victory, terms which were the best we could reasonably expect that even the greatest victory would give to us. (Apilause.) We are a great and powerful nation. What is the use of being great 15 and powerful if we are afraid to admit an error when we are conscious of it? (Applause.) Shame is not in the confession of a mistake. Shame lies only in persistency in wilful wrong-doing. (Hear, hear.) And if Earl Cairns likes to sit in sackcloth and ashes — if he likes, in well- feigned abasement, to expiate the folly of the Administration of which he was a member in the hasty annexation which has led to all these trials — in Heaven's name let him have that gratification. (Cheers). But when he dares to say that the English nation is shamed by the course we have taken, I deny him the right to be judge in such a cause, and I appeal to the impartial public opinion of Europe and of America, which has approved of the action of the Government in preferring justice to revenge — (cheers) — and the best interests of South Africa to the vain pursuit of military glory. (Cheers.) Sir, I now approach the last subject upon which I shall venture to address you. In referring to the state of Ireland, T do so under the gravest sense of the r< sponsibility attaching to anyone who touches upon such a th^me. At this m mient an exciuble people, suffering under the sense of long-continued injustice and wrong — (hear, hear) — only lately coming out of great tribulation, having endured hardship unexampled and extraordinary privation, having barely escaped starva- tion in consequence of the extraordinary efforts of public charity — these people, with such a character and under such conditions, are being encouraged by leaders in whom they hive placed their confidence — (hear, hear) — to defy what they believe to be an unjust law — (cheers) — and to seek by disorder, and even by violence, to redress their grievances. Under these circumstances, when class is set against class, when any moment may bring about a collision which will fill all our minds with horror, no true friend of Ireland would dare to say anything which could add fuel to the flame. (Cheers ) "The condition of Ireland is desperate and critical." These are not my words ; these are the words of Mr. Uniith, the late First Lord of the Admiralty, in the debate on the second reading of the Land Bill. Mr. Smith went on to say that this condition of things was the fault of the Government, who had delayed too long, and- had been reluctant in applying for extraordinary powers, and who, when they obtained them, had been 16 weak and languid in enforcing them. Well, that is an hypothesis which might have some weight, to which some importance might be attached, if it were not unfortunately the case that the state :t Ireland, desperate and critical as if is, is not exceptional. The state of Ireland in-inr tie list Lai: oenravry La? .rrt :-te ::" altt:?: :tr:ti: lis:: ie: _i-:e ~:n lave a r-r-trlr "it:. ty ::tsez: :: itien a 21.!::- ire rettars:- :le :i rtiitary Tines ::: :aei: : reiieme :: :ie itiitarj la~ — tear. — a people whose historj is signalised by a singular and admirable - a:e :: nitraty .tte ati re: y:t Lave :_en irizi tine t: tine eastt^ ::: in:: tatsnysns ::' artariat vi;len;e ati lis: tier. Tfler these in iiMiimif rn it in perfectly e~ Hent. I think, to every right- tlai :1: :.r n::. :1a: ::: lanses :: :zis .s::_e: ate n::e iTS _ --sa:e: than Mr. Smith ehooflffl : sopf :-- and thai they are not to be found s:le" it. tie =:-ti:t: : _ tlis :t :: atj tre^i:t: : j:vennei: Hie " are :: - : ni in tie :-:niiti:n :: tie pei'tle :lettsel~es at 1 ~-. cot deep if we want to ret at the bottom of the matter. In past times "Eng lish statesmen, unfortunately, have only ha 1 one way of dealing with what they call Irish disaffection. They have applied coercion quickly enough, and thev have anile: it strlng-ennv -t:t;: :: sa:;s:y s _ et tie "tries ail :aanot be sail :: them, a: all events, thai the restrictive ei=-tes — "till :lev Lave i::t:e:ii-r teei langniily en::r:e: ~^ - liTe had, I have read somewhere, fifty '1 tertian Acta — A: as of tettessttn — in Ire.an = :a:e 1: tiane Tn-it is :ne ::r e~e:~ year m the half century which has elapsed since that date. Well, —la: It-s "1-een tie resnlt Irelat : : : still iisttttettei Irelaii is still snnerlng :::nt r-rltiixl ±--- ::" iistrier. IN - :—. I Tit: t: : all - : :: a::etrl:t t: tie i_is:ra:i:i :: past r-tli:y it retereite t: tils natter. It lt:l tiete — as at : : teat :: aistrte: — 1::1 it ntatv re-:-e:: ; is very sinniat t: tte :te -t:;t — e ^re t:~ Tirtesrlt?. It ~ as a striate :y tie _::st tett-e aratis: tte :a; nei: :: titles, at! is know* it lis: try as the tithe — at ati —ten it broke out the Govern- ntett t: ,1: the usual steps — they passed Whiteboy Acts, they passed at Anns A :: :ley t-tssei tie sns'-etstt ::" tie Haieas 1 :ntts A:: : but in spite this action on the part of tte En outrages, and secret outrages especially, still continued, and in 1833 — 17 two yeaie after the disturbances first broke out — Lord Stanley., who is better known as the late Earl of Derby, but who was then Chief S« etary for Ireland in the House of Commons, told the House of Commons that '"the record of crime in Ireland almost surpa—r belief." In one county — the county of Kilkenny — there were murders and attemf ts a: ^^rder, o± burnings of houses, 17e a= -. _ with danger to life, 519 burglaries, and 34 hough ings of cattle. Bad as is the state of things which we now recognise in Ireland, ii :- nothing like so bad as things were in 1833. But why have I laid before yen this statement of what happenri so long *z_ ! If is because I think that this experience and much which has happened since is a proof of the truth of the maxim which Mr. Bright laid i~.-~xz. iz. :_:s ball — fueers — -:z; ~:l:1s >r:. Jll_ n ,-: much questioned since, and which says that force is no remedy. -Lrplause.) Mind, that dees not say that force may not be necessary — (hear, hear) — but it is no remedy. I: a man is ill — if he suffers from fever, arl z~20m.es delirious. his trifmtfl may properly put a strait waistcoat on him to ptrevent him from i^ ~::z.r hiziSrl: a-i :h:=f ;::';:! !i:z: Arrla~:r Z_: :: -i. doing this they said that they thought it to be a cure and a specific for the fever they would be considered by all of us to be out of their senses. The Government of a free country is bound to take e" t step, every means in its power, in order to secure obedience to the law. (Loud cheers.) The law is the safeguard of the liberty of every one of us. (Cheers.) The law means the protection of the weak against the strong, and if any class sets itself above the law, and if a '^Tern- ment should abet them in doing so then I say there would be an end :: all the ::i=:::z:i:~^l ^^ara^:efi ::' czr rersz^al li:er::e= Arila-sr On the other hand, the Government — any Government — is bound to do its best to alter and amend the law where it thinks it to be nnjost Hear, hear, and appla: = r These are two duties of a Government which run together, and which cannot be separated. The late Lord Beacon sfield when he was Mr. Disraeli, and was addressing himself to a somewhat similar subject, said one c: _ . vises! ,l_^jr which. I believe, he ever spoke- He described to the House of Commons the then cendition of Ir el and, and he wound up by Baying, 18 " What should be the duty, under these circumstances, of an English statesman ? Your duty is to effect by peaceful and constitutional means all that a revolution would effect by force." (Hear, hear, and applause.) Well, sir, that was precisely what Mr. Gladstone attempted to do by the Land Act of 1870. That Act, as we all know, was not a complete success. Its partial failure was due to two things. It was due, in the first place, to the action of the House of Lords, who on this, as on so many other previous occasions, mutilated and destroyed the effect of bills sent up to it from the Lower House, and it was partly due to the action of some of the landlords of Ireland, who unwisely endeavoured to escape from the conditions of the Act — conditions which might have enabled them to establish on a firm and friendly footing their relations with their tenants — and who by slow degrees raised the rents upon the holders of land until the burden became to great to be borne. Between 1870 and 1876 there was over a large part of Ireland a great rise in rents. This took place, not in jumps but in small gradual advances, no single one of which the tenant felt himself justified in refusing, although the effect of the whole of them together was that, although he could just pay his way in good times, when the bad seasons came he was ruined hopelessly, and had to leave and give up his means of livelihood. Well now, these facts were laid before Parliament from time to time. Unfortunately they could not secure either the attention of the last Parliament or the attention of the Government. I have seen it stated, in a pamphlet written by an Irishman of some note and weight, that if in 1875 the then Government had brought in a bill to protect the tenants against the exaction of unfair rents, there would have been no agitation and io trouble whatever in Ireland. ( Applause. ) Unfortunately they did nothing, and I am sorry to say it has been only too often the case in Irish affairs that we have attempted to redress grievances after too long a delay, and we have had to pay an increasing penalty every day that we have postponed our necessary action. Well, now, after this there came the recent famine. The Government made large grants of money in aid of the Irish people, grants which, I am afraid, in a great number of cases never reached the sufferers for whom they were intended ; but they refused absolutely to do anything towards amending 19 the law. Under these circumstances it was that the Land League was first formed. (Hear, hear, and applause.) It was started in the last years of the late government, and from that day Irish discontent has assumed an organised form. Then, we took office ; we took office pledged by the declarations of almost every member of the Ministry, by our avowed sympathies, by our known convictions, to do our very best at the earliest possible moment to seek out the cause, the deep underlying cause, of Irish disaffection, and, if possible, to remove it by legislation. (Applause.) Events moved too quickly for us. Before we were well seated in office, before we had obtained the report of the Commissioners whom we appointed to examine into this matter, we were called upon to deal with one phase of the Irish difficulty. Well, we did nut hesitate. We sacrificed all our preconceived plans and schemes, we gave up the programme which we had recommended to Parliament ; we stopped, we delayed proceeding with Eaglish and Scotch business, and we introduced a bill, the Compensation for Disturbance Bill — (applause) — which occupied many weeks of time, and which, as you know, led to a very protracted session. You will recollect the solemn warning which Mr. Gladstone, in urging the acceptance of that bill upon the House of Commons, addressed to us in reference to the state of affairs. He said, " Ireland stands within measurable distance of civil war," and he urged that this bill should be accepted as, in the opinion of the Government, necessary to strengthen their hands, and to enable them to secure obedience to law and order. The warning was neglected — the House of Lords — (liibse^) — rejected the bill — (shame) — and I say, never in the history of that House has it committed a more unwise and a more unpatriotic act. (Applause.) If that bill had been passed we have the assurance of the leaders of the Irish Land League themselves that they could not have successfully continued their agitation. The bill was rejecttd, and civil war has begun. Class is arrayed against class in social strife, and now 30,000 soldiers and 12,000 policemen are barely sufficient to enable the Government to protect the lives and the property of the Queen's subjects in Ireland. Well, it is said sometimes that we ou^ht to have had another suasion of Parliament, and that the bill should have been sent up again to the Lords. Our critics seems to forget that we are 20 not a despotic Government, and that we have not the power to do what we will. We can only act within the limits of the constitution, and if we had called another session of Parliament, and if we had sent up the bill to the House of Lords, inasmuch as we were only able to secure a comparatively small majority in its favour in the House of Commons on the first occasion, I believe it is probable that the bill would have been again rejected. It is said we might have dissolved Parliament ; but if you consider that we had only had a general election a few months before, and the effect of such a proposal at a time when Ireland was seething with disaffection, I think you will feel that it is one which no reasonable man would make, and which no prudent Government would be able seriously to consider. What is to be done now 1 ? (Applause.) Well, the Tories have no doubt whatever as to the course which we ought to pursue. By the mouths of their leaders, by their organs in the press, they urge upon the Government to put aside at once the Land Bill, to give up any attempt at remedial legislation, and to go to Parliament for more and moi'e coercion, for the abolitio.i of Trial by Jury, for the suppression of the Land League, and for other stringent and arbitrary measures. Well now, for my part I hate coercion. (Applause.) I hate the name and I hate the thing. (Renewed applause.) I am bound to say that I believe there is not one of my colleagues who does not hate it as I do. But then we hate disorder more. (Cheers.) It seems to me that the issue is now with the Irish people ^aud ^those who lead them. They can have no doubt any loager — it mightjiave beeu possible before — they can have no doubt any longer as to the intentions of the Govern- ment. We have brought in a Land Bill. (Prolonged applause.) We have offered our message of peace to the Irish people. It is a bill, indeed, which Lord Salisbury professes he cannot understand ; but I don't find that his want of intelligence has prevented him from denouncing it in the strongest terms. It is a bill which Sir Stafford Northcote appears to consider of no importance, for he urges the Government to give to the House of Commons some proposals of really serious legislation which would justify the absence of obstructive proceedings. But this bill which Lord Salisbury cannot understand — this bill which Sir Stafford Northcote thinks to be of no importance, 21 has been, I am glad to say, accepted generally as to its main principles, in the spirit in which it has been conceived, by all that, is most reason- able and intelligent amongst the Irish people. (A.pplause.) I do not say that it may not be susceptible of amendment, but I say that as it stands, and, speaking geii3rally of its main provisions, that it has been welcomed by the majority of the Irish press. It has been frankly accepted as satisfactory by the whole of Ulster. It has been approved — I am always speakii.g of its main proposals — it has been approved by the Roman Catholic clergy — and let me say, in passing, that although there have been of course some exceptions, I think the action ol the Roman Catholic clergy in Ireland during these disturbances has been on the whole worthy of their cloth — (applause) — and of their religion, and that the influence to which their sympathies with the people justly entitle them has been exercised on the whole on the side of law and order. Well, sir, this bill, as I say, has been accepted in its main provisions by the Roman Catholic clergy. It has been accepted by the representatives of Ireland. Out of 101 of them, only seven were found to vote against the second reading of the bill, and of those seven, three, I believe, were members of the late Government. This bill has bean accepted as, at all events, a basis of a satisfactory settlement. We have pledged ourselves to do everything which lies within our power to carry it to^a speedy and satisfactory conclusion. We have stakedour existence upon it. (Loud cheers.) There is no possibility of retreat. And now just let me tell you in a few words what this bill which Lord Salisbury cannot understand really is. I fancy that the intelligence of Birmingham working men will, at least, be equal to a demand which ha3 proved too great a strain on Lord Salisbury's attention. (Laughter.) This is a bill which provides, in the first place, for an impartial ^tribunal, to which every small tenant in Ireland can go in order to fix a fair rent between himself and his landlord if they should happen to disagree. This bill permits every small tenant to sell his goodwill or tenant-right for the best price he can get for it, if he wishes to exchange or leave his holding ; and in this way it secures him absolutely in all the improvements which he may make upon the land. It gives to him also Sicurity of tenure in his holding, provided he fulfils the reasonable requirements and condi- 22 tions of the tenancy. And, in addition to that, it affords facilities greater than have ever been suggested before, whereby many of these tenants, at all events, will be able on reasonable and moderate terms to acquire full possession of the land which they now till as occupying tenants. (Applause.) A few weeks, or at most a month or two, must settle the fate of the Government and the fate of this measure. May we not call a truce, under these circumstances, in the bitter civil war, which, as I have said, is going on ? I appeal to the landlords first, who have in many cases been very long-suffering and patient, to have yet a little more forbearance with their tenants, at all events during the time which must intervene before their relations with them are finally settled. I hope, also, that I may venture to appeal to the Irish people. (Applause.) I appeal to them as I appealed to them, I am sorry to say without success, before — I appeal to them not to play into the hands of their enemies. (Cheers ) I appeal to them not to make the policy of conciliation difficult, or even impossible, for us by acts of violence and disorder which every honest man condemns. (Applause.) I believe that if we could tide over this intervening time, 'or if we could by some magic power secure the immediate passage of this bill, that we should have a settlement of this disastrous state of things. The Tories say that it would not be a final settlement. Well, perhaps not. There is no finality in politics— (applause) — and every generation in turn must solve its own problems, and carry forward to a successful issue its own reforms. (Applause.) But at least we should have done our duty — at least we should have dealt with the question of the moment, and until some new grievance might arise to be dealt with, with equal justice and, 1 hope, with greater promptitude — until such time, at least, we should have established the relations of the Irish people on a satisfactory footing. But I am afraid there are two parties who do not want a settlement of this question — (applause) — and those are the Tories and the leaders of the Land League. (Applause.) Since the Easter holidays every day of Government time has been given, with- out intermission, in order to promote the progress of this great and vitally important measure, and yet up to the present day, only six lines of the bill, which consists of over a thousand lines, have passed through Committee. There are some people who think that the time 23 may shortly come when a review of the position and functions of the House of Lords may not be an inappropriate subject for the considera- tion of the English people — (applause)— but I venture to say that the urgent question of the moment, the point to which every reformer should now direct his first attention, is the reform of the procedure of the House of Commons. (Applause.) The House of Commons has ceased to be able to represent or give effect to the will of the majority of the nation. It has sunk into a great debating society, without power to come to a decision, or to register and carry out the mandate which it has re- ceived from the constituencies. And while discussion is prolonged in the House of Commons the gloom of the situation in Irt land extends and deepens. Our talk never slackens, neither does the agitation in Ireland. And I am sometimes afraid lest even this great measure of reform may come too late, and provisions which would be satisfactory, which would be gratefully accepted, if they could be immediately accorded, may yet be rejected if they are indefinitely postponed. Now, why is it this important decision is so long delayed ? In the first place, the Government has to deal with the ill-concealed — I might almost say the avowed — hostility of a certain section of the leaders of the Irish party. There is no secret about what I am going to say : there is no dispute about it. Mr. Parnell, and those who follow him have never concealed the fact that their chief object is not the removal of grievances in Ireland, but the separation of Ireland from England, (Hear, hear.) Why only a few months ago, Mr. Parnell, speaking in Ireland, said that he would never have joined the Land League, he would have taken no part in this great agitation which has been called into existence to redeem the Irish people from consequences of centuries of wrong, he would have taken no part in that agitation if he had not thought it would have helped him in the Nationalist and Separatist movement in which he chiefly takes an interest. How can we satisfy these men ? Our object is not the same as theirs ; we want to remove every just cause of grievance. They want to magnify grievances and to intensify differences. We want to unite the Irish people and the English and the Scotch in bonds of amity. We want, I say, to bind the Irish people to this country in bonds of amity an J c rdial union — (hear, hear) — just as much as Scotland is united to •24 England, although the time was when Scotchmen felt as bitter a hostility to the union as Irishmen now profess to feel. Well, under these circumstances, I find that the gentlemen to whom I have referred do not openly oppose the Land Bill, because, I believe, they are well aware that their constituents would not justify them ia such a course. (Hear, hear.) But they are not unwilling to put obstacles in its way. They are not unwilling to raise motions for adjournment or to put questions which lead to debate, and which take up the precious time of the House, winch ought to be expended solely in the promotion of this measure; and, above all, they try by agitation to force upon the Government impossible concessions — (hear, hear)— the effect of which, if only we were to accept them, they know would be that the bill would very likely be rejected by the House of Commons and would certainly be rejected by the House of Peers. Now, I observe, at a meeting which was held on Sunday last in Hyde Park, Mr. Parnell made a suggestion that the Government should refuse in the future to allow the soldiery or police in Ireland to be employed in the protection of the officers who are carrying out the law. I do not think that Mr. Parnell himself sees exactly the whole of the fatal consequences which would follow the adoption of such a suggestion. Let us see what it amounts to. It amounts to this — that any Government which thinks a law unjust should at once set itself above the law, and should refuse to allow that law to be put in force. (Hear, hear.) What is it which gives security to all of us? What is it which enables every one of you — the humblest among you — to feel that your homes are protected from violence, and that the persons and lives of those who are dear to you are safe from outrages ? Why, it is the sense that you have the support and assistance of the law, so long as you obey the law. (Loud applause ) And it is the sense that behind the law there is all the force of a mighty empire, all the power that the strongest Government can wield. I say if you take this security from us, you take from us everything which guarantees our liberties and our freedom. It is all very well for us now to say this law is unjust. The Tory Government which follows us may think another law equally open to objection, and Government after Government will set up a separate despotism of its o.vn, and the freedom and liberties of three kingdoms will be 25 destroyed. ( Applause. ) Well, but there are other conaderations i which, must be weighed in this matter Az - -action msy be, and in ••-zz- :■.■--•_ i: z- i iirii ill : ;::- -..-- ii: — iri: irir — :~: :.l :_r ::i-r laid i: ~iv :^ — z: me :ar. ienv :: — i: _ ■;- ";•= ::: :-'; ~v which a landlord may have to obtain a fair &zz Moderate i eal - — i::i tl'.i '.r- '.::_: : 1 :: "_:\ t. . 1 :. _." iej-enii [ say :ia- ir. -~. a case as I have described the landlord's rent is as much his property i -our coat or your money is yours. (Load applause.) Mr. Partefl -\ • z- :i}.-. .lie '-' ---- — li.i '--. La= r.-r- :: Iriili :eia-- ii :ia: :i- ire -:: :; ivr —;z=: reiti. Hei~. lear ^ell lire ii a *:-:d i :: ":e =a:i i:;~: i.-:- a :r:i:>i;i:- is :n: Ii eve:v ~ -i :: ';- ever, the :e = : inl n:-_: lines: in:nre: _i ;:ili :e ::ii:e_ :z ---:-- ease to pay his nil :e::s nie: si:"i ;::: msii-nes zz nese. Az : \z z.-. 3i: ir-nmm-.elj :i:s is i:: -1 ~i -:e _ e: Hdr Ir'ameU — ir :: :ier lei Irr 5 :: tie Lit. I Leiine iz. Irelani zzi else" ~ie:e line iir-Vi lie i.ne -:: :: rav im rei: i: ill A^I i: ii a fa:: :li: : hmiieds ani :l:ii.inis ::' uses :i: Iriil :eii.-:i are 111: — I12 :'-:■: ': :enl :1 ;- Tie rrlT.ez: :e:l:e :!- l-:v-;mr.:er-: = n:: a -ml one. What w e — n: :: ill :;: ^ .lis "~e -srn: :: try 1:~ ~- :a^ protect the In-: :eian: :'r:n lie ~i n-: :r: :e i ne :z. lie jar: : a ;riel ill "nrli l._ 1 . 1 .-._ l V; -e "-"a..: : _ : - ::!■:. _a_i :: i : :La: so that we may not at the same time protect the dishonest tenant in his dishonesty — (hear, hear) — and help him to take advantage of this agitation to rob his creditor?, refusing, with money in his pockets I pay his landlord, who, perhaps, is poorer than himself. (Applause.) Then the bill has also been delayed by the action of the Tories, who are striving by amendments and by discussion to force upon the 1-:~t::ihti: .:"::.„- ::: _- : "_ :-: : i z:z : _t ..: : . : : - call the confiscation of their pro per ty I very much doubt whether these amendments are really suggested by Irish landlords, who, I believe, as a rule, are only anxious for a reasonable =?:•_ en i::. lam inclined to think they are suggested by Eogbsh landlords, who are afraid of inconvenient precedents. (Applause.) But in any ease I say :!ii: :z ---. i_-i!ii-_:5 i .-. .:.-;: :il- ni : zzz: : ■ z r- r::e: :lai?T ~ r :zz z\r -- ■ -:z:z:-i.rZzZ.z.z:.:l-z.izi:\: 26 We do not propose to do anything above and beyond this — to make compulsory upon all landlords the practice which we are assured the majority of landlords, and certainly of good landlords, already adopt. Good landlords do not rack their tenants. Why should bad landlords be compensated for a legal right which they cannot equitably exercise '? A good landlord will not forfeit the property or the improvements of his tenants, and he will not lightly evict from his holding — which perhaps is the only means of livelihood which the tenant has — a man who, by himself and his family, has remained perhaps longer on the ground even than the landlord who is in authority over him ; yet bad landlords have done this in some cases, and might do in many more, and I cannot conceive that they have any right to claim compensation for the restriction and limitation of powers which they ought never to have been permitted to enjoy. In our English legislation there are numberless precedents in which legal rights have been found to be in conflict with public morality and public interest, and have been restricted and limited, and I am not aware of any such cases in which compensation has been given to those who have been thus treated Irish landlords must look for their real compensation for any sacrifice, if sacrifice it be which they are called upon to make, in the fact that it is only in some restriction of their rights that their relations with their tenants can possibly be replaced in a friendly and satisfactory condition; and as the rights of Irish landlords are now only maintained by the presence of an English garrison, and would not exist for a moment if that garrison were removed, it appears to me that the English people which maintains this garrison is entitled to a voice in settling the conditions under which the protection which they give shall continue to be afforded. (Applause.) Well now, gentlemen, I have brought down the narrative to the present time. I cannot attempt — I will not venture to predict the future. The Government is striving to steer an even course between extremes. We have been told that the bill which we have brought in is the minimum which the Irish people can accept. I believe it is the maximum which any English Parliament will pass. We pursue the work in which we are engaged under circumstances of some discouragement. We cannot count upon, we do not ask for, the assistance of our opponents. We 27 meet with scant consideration from those whom we are attempting to serve. I feel that I have detained you too long. (No.) I thank you moat sincerely for the patience with which you have listened to me. I shall have served some purpose if I have brought before you the difficulties by which the Government finds itself encompassed; and if I have shown you also the spirit in which we are endeavouring to overcome them. 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