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WHAT WE ARE AND 
 WHAT WE WILL BE 
 
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 donald w. Mcdonald 
 
WHAT WE ARE AND 
 WHAT WE WILL BE 
 
 Positive Proof of Identity. Individuality and 
 
 Immortality of Man. Biblictic, Scientific, 
 
 with Witnesses. And We Will Know 
 
 Each Other There— Spirits Made 
 
 Perfect. Family Circles 
 
 Eternal in the 
 
 Heavens. 
 
 BY 
 
 donald w. Mcdonald 
 
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 NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE 
 1909 
 

 COPYRIGHTED MAY 29, 1908 
 CLASS AXXC NO. 208301 
 
 BY DONALD W. McDONALD 
 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 
 
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 CONTENTS 
 
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 Introduction ---------------13 
 
 Our Carnal Body— What It Is ------- - 17 
 
 Our Soul— What It Is ------------ 23 
 
 Our Spirit — What It Is ----------- 37 
 
 Death — What It Is ------------- 53 
 
 Spirit Birth — What It Is ---------- 59 
 
 A Spirit Born — What It Is ----------63 
 
 In the Spirit — What It Is ---------- 73 
 
 Angels— What They Are ----------- 79 
 
 Land of Darkness — What It Is ------- - 85 
 
 Land of Light and Love — What It Is ------- 89 
 
 Why Dread Transition — What It Is ----- - 107 
 
 Witnesses of the Truth - ---------- m 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Geo. W. Bradshaw ------ in 
 
 Experience of Dr. Dunby, of So. Pres. Church - - - 113 
 Experience of Gen. Stonewall Jackson ----- 115 
 
 Experience of Mr. Jesse J. Latham -------116 
 
 Experience of Me. John Smith -------- 117 
 
 Experience of Lieutenant Gay ---------- ng 
 
 Experience of Mr. W. E. Sikes --------- 119 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Heisen ----------119 
 
 Experience of Miss Emma Fisher' ------- 120 
 
 Experience of Miss Mary Adel ---------121 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Geo. S. Brown ------- 123 
 
 Experience of Miss Katy Brown --------123 
 
 Experience of Master Jack Cleghorn ------ 124 
 
 Experience of Miss Katie Mays --------- 125 
 
6 Contents 
 
 Experience of Mrs. John Trout -------- 126 
 
 Experience of Mrs. John McBride -------- 127 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Susan McLean ------- 128 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Mary Moses -------- 129 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Katharin McConnell Gordon - - 130 
 Experience of Elder John Gilliard ------- 130 
 
 Experience of E. McCall Davis -------- 130 
 
 Experience of Mrs. L. McConnell - - - - - - - -131 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Maria Louise Rosser ----- 131 
 
 Experience of Rev. Pilmer C. Archer -------132 
 
 Experience of Mr. T. G. Ezell --------- 133 
 
 Experience of Miss Mamie McGill -------133 
 
 Experience of Mrs. H. T. Norment ------- 134 
 
 Experience of Mrs. W. D. Harris -------- 135 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Mary Cummings ------ 135 
 
 Experience of Miss Verling Everson Guerry - - - - 137 
 
 Experience of Miss Mary J. N. Whitner ----- 138 
 
 Experience of Mrs. A. K. Marshall -------139 
 
 Experience of Miss Cornelia Lowry ------ 140 
 
 Experience of Rev. E. H. Bonnett, D.D. ------ 142 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Mary A. Blowers ------ 142 
 
 Experience of Dwight L. Moody -------- 143 
 
 Experience of Prof. A. M. C. Brasch ------ 143 
 
 Experience of Mrs. Ella M. Brasch ------- 145 
 
 Experience of Mr. Louis Stephens ------- 146 
 
 Experience of Bede ------------- 149 
 
 Experience of St. Anthony ---------- 149 
 
 Experience of Tertullian -----------150 
 
 Experience of Ignatius ----------- 150 
 
 Experience of Emanuel Swedenborg ------- 151 
 
 Statement of Dr. Adam Clarke -------- 151 
 
 Statement of Harriet Beecher Stowe ------- 151 
 
Contents 7 
 
 Experience of Rev. B. L. Austin, M.A., LL.D. - - - 152 
 Statement of Rev. Lyman Abbott -------- 153 
 
 Experience of Sir Oliver Lodge, F.R.S., D.S.C., LL.B. - 154 
 Experience of Dr. J. M. Peebles, M.D., M.A., Ph.D. - - 154 
 Experience of Capt. J. F. Chase -------- 157 
 
 Statement of Dr. Duncan McDougal, M.D. - - - - 161 
 
 Statement of Franz Hartmann, M.D. ------ 162 
 
 Statement of Camille Flammarion, Paris, France - - 165 
 Experience of Sir William Crooks ------- 167 
 
 Experience of William T. Stead, Editor R. of R. - - - 167 
 Experience of Mrs. Titus ---------- 168 
 
 Experience of Mr. Horace J. Seaver -------172 
 
 Experience of Donald W. McDonald ------ 175 
 
 Review of Part of Evidence ---------- 200 
 
 Basis of Proof -------------- 212 
 
 Conclusion ----------------213 
 
 VERSES, SONG AND POETRY. 
 
 Thanks for Message Received. Capt. A. Phinney - - 9 
 When and Where. Donald W. McDonald - - - - 14 
 
 Transition. Donald W. McDonald -------20 
 
 Transition of Life. Donald W. McDonald - - - - 35 
 
 Life. Capt. A. Phinney -----------50 
 
 True Freedom. Capt. A. Phinney ------- 56 
 
 Birth Not Death. Donald W. McDonald ----- 61 
 
 New Birth. Capt. A. Phinney -------- 69 
 
 Jesus and Work. Donald W. McDonald - - - - - 77 
 
 Angels of Light. Donald W. McDonald ----- 81 
 
 The Home of the Lost. Donald W. McDonald - - - 86 
 Up There at Home. Donald W. McDonald - - - - 97 
 
 Our Home. Donald W. McDonald -------- 102 
 
 Spirit Birth. Donald W. McDonald ------ 109 
 
8 Contents 
 
 There Is No Death. Bulwer Lytton ------- 152 
 
 There Is No Death. Longfellow ------- 152 
 
 Union in the Spirit. Donald W. McDonald - - - - 156 
 
 To the Angels. Capt. A. Phinney - - - - - - - 160 
 
 In My Home. Donald W. McDonald ------- 199 
 
To My Dear Brother, Donald W. McDonald. 
 
 Dear Brother : Unto thee I bring 
 A token from our glorious King, 
 Who you his messenger has made 
 To guide me on the heavenly road. 
 
 Through you the powers that be do bring 
 The music that in me doth ring, 
 A music only to men given 
 By inspiration born of Heaven. 
 
 Oh I esteem then the gift Divine 
 That ope's the vjay to sight like thine, 
 That such as I of lovjly tread 
 May thus to heavenly scenes be led. 
 
 I hungry came, a lovjly child, 
 The Father heard, and from the voild, 
 Yea I <wild, 'wild vjaste of vjorldliness 
 He sent thee here my soul to bless. 
 
 Thrice hallowed be the ties that bind 
 The Soul to Soul and Mind to Mind, 
 And may our paths hardly divide . 
 As on <rve voalk by Jesus' side. 
 
 A season <we may be apart 
 But Christ's love knits us heart to heart, 
 As tovjard the heavenly goal voe move 
 Serving the Lord of light and love. 
 
 CAPT. A. PHINNEY. 
 
 Mobile, Ala., 1907. 
 
INTRODUCTION 
 
 THE KNOWN. 
 
 What we are and what we will be should be the 
 first question of interest to all mankind. John 1 1 : 26 : 
 "Whosoever liveth and believeth on me shall never 
 die.'' Believest thou this? Science to-day proves 
 clearly that man is composed of three substances — 
 spirit, soul and matter. (See Paul Giber.) "Analy- 
 sis of things existing" — that the living soul is an in- 
 dividual identity and exists after death — Camille 
 Flammarion proves by the rule of eight million to 
 one. Frederick W. H. Myers, Professor Lodge, Dr. 
 Hodgson and Professor Hyslop scientifically prove 
 that those we call dead are alive, and live a life to 
 which ours here can only be compared as death ; that 
 other worlds exist inorganic, where life is life indeed, 
 yet as real as this one we inhabit. See Jevons' "Prin- 
 ciples of Science," and Young, who has proved to 
 the world that the sun is two hundred and fifty de- 
 grees below zero, and is a dynamo, jarring and vi- 
 brating the particles and atoms of our atmosphere, 
 producing heat, light and sound. Electricity, X-Rays, 
 etc., are produced by vibration, and between these are 
 
12 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 millions of rays that we do not see or perceive. In 
 fact, the unseen, while in the flesh, is more than the 
 visible, and is eternal. Hypnotism, clairaudiance, clair- 
 voyance, telepathy and dissociation of the principles 
 composing our bodies are now established. Alfred 
 Russel Wallace, the most famous scientific man in the 
 world, has succeeded in taking the photograph of a 
 living soul, which is composed, First, of the spirit, be- 
 ing a white, gaseous substance, the form of the per- 
 son having even the features exact, and is the guiding 
 and intelligent part, being subject to the Holy Spirit, 
 or spirit of Satan, whichever we will. Second, the 
 soul, which is composed of small molecules and atoms 
 from the ethereal atmosphere above, driven through 
 our gross atmosphere by the dynamic force of the 
 sun, pervades all things living, portions of it adhering 
 to our spirit, much the same as the flesh to our bones, 
 forming a complete body within our shell, tabernacle, 
 carnal or outward body, and is energy or motion, even 
 driving the blood through our veins. The author of 
 this book only claims to be a witness of the truths, as 
 they exist and are held forth by both the Old Testa- 
 ment and the New— dear Bible, ever true; and what 
 was true in the apostolic times is true to-day, as we 
 live in the same age. Jesus says, "Whosoever be- 
 lieveth in me, the works that I do he shall do also, 
 and greater works than these shall he do, because I 
 go unto my Father : and again I am with you unto 
 
Introduction 13 
 
 the end of the world." Also the positive proof of the 
 identity, individuality and immortality of the spirit 
 of man, called by election and grace, though un- 
 worthy by our dear Master, Christ Jesus, who is the 
 Son of our dear heavenly Father; by birthright was 
 Jehovah, is Jehovah, ever will be Jehovah. Angels, 
 archangels, cherubims and seraphims bowed to him 
 before the worlds was, bowed to him while on earth, 
 bow to him to-day, as he sitteth at the right hand of 
 the Father, or passeth through that land of love, his 
 kingdom, and ever will, glory to His name. While 
 we are children of our dear Father by creation and 
 adoption through His only Son by birthright, Christ 
 Jesus, I claim no other powers than that I believe 
 all inherit who get close to Jesus and work — simply 
 a humble witness of the truth. This book is written 
 not as a novel; is far moie interesting and beautiful; 
 is the evidence of plain facts ; is not what we do not 
 know, but what through grace we do know. It is 
 known that a fact or truth is established by two or 
 three witnesses. I purpose, through grace, to prove 
 to all fair-minded, whether man, woman or child, the 
 identity, individuality and immortality of the spirit 
 of each person. First, by the Bible, — it is divine. We 
 are carnal, and we only understand it as we become 
 spiritual. Second, scientific investigation. Third, 
 personal experiences and facts, proved by many wit- 
 nesses, many of them living to-day and can be ap- 
 
14 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 proached and investigated as to the truth of all state- 
 ments in this volume. 
 
 "when and where." 
 
 When shall we meet 
 
 Ours gone o'er before ? 
 When shall we greet 
 
 At the open door ? 
 
 Not all we love 
 
 Meet us here below. 
 Through Christ we live, 
 
 To Christ we should go. 
 
 So close are they 
 
 All whom we all love, 
 All of them say, 
 
 At our home above. 
 
OUR CARNAL BODY 
 
 Gen. 2\j; "The Lord God formed man of the 
 dust of the ground." Gen. 3:19: Speaking of this 
 carnal body, "For dust thou art and unto dust shalt 
 thou return." Our Father formed from the dust of 
 the earth a complete shell of earth, for our inward 
 body or living soul, composed of spirit, the true ego, 
 the soul, body of the spirit. He formed this shell or 
 carnal body, head, eyes, ears, trunk, limbs, lungs, 
 bowels, heart, hands and feet, a complete shell, then 
 blew within the nostrils of this shell his breath, which 
 produced the spirit and soul within this shell he had 
 made. But before he blew within Adam's nostrils it 
 was nothing but a corpse of which we so truthfully 
 say, Dust thou art and unto dust thou shalt return. 
 We find the same words spoken by Jehovah in Eccl. 
 12:7: "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it 
 was, and the spirit shall return unto God who gave 
 it." Job 19:26:* "And after my skin even this body 
 is destroyed. Then without my flesh shall I see God." 
 Solomon was one of the wisest men of the world, 
 and like Job he bears testimony to the truth. Abra- 
 ham speaking of it, says, Gen. 18:27: "Which am 
 
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16 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 but dust and ashes." David, Ps. 103:14: "For he 
 knoweth our frame. He remembereth that we are 
 dust." Eccl. 3 : 20 : "All are of the dust and all 
 turn to the dust again." Jesus called his earthly body 
 the tabernacle of his body. Not his body at all, just 
 the tent of his body ; and he being Jehovah, knew. 
 The apostles call it the outward body or tabernacle. 
 Paul, an outward body, earthly body and earthly ves- 
 sel. After he had been in paradise and the third 
 heaven, says, "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the 
 kingdom of God." The carnal mind is not subject to 
 the will of God, neither indeed can be. Again, "If 
 ye live after the flesh ye shall die, but if after the 
 Spirit, ye shall live." 
 
 Now, I am not as able on this question as Paul, 
 but I do say, that I don't see what use we could 
 make of the carnal body, when the soul forms such 
 a beautiful body on the spirit as an angel. Neither 
 will I state that there are not some component parts 
 of this earthly shell or body that may be essential to 
 the completion of our living soul. I will just let you 
 and Paul settle this question. How an earthly 
 shell can enter a celestial or inorganic land, I 
 cannot comprehend. I know when you are ab- 
 sent from the body you do not care for it, any more 
 than you do for the tooth you had pulled and have 
 cast away years ago, and it is a part of your earthly 
 shell, same as your heart. Let us look at this earthly 
 
Our Carnal Body— What It Is 17 
 
 shell scientifically. By the old theory we know that 
 there is a complete change of this earthly body every 
 five or seven years; in fact, the shell I wear to-day 
 I did not have seven years ago. At the age of sixty 
 I have had on an average basis ten bodies, at least, 
 or a body ten times the size of my present body, or 
 shell. Now, let us look at the new theory, proved 
 to be a fact. (From the "Unknown," by Flammarion.) 
 Of what is the human body composed? An average 
 adult man weighs one hundred and forty pounds. Of 
 this amount there are nearly one hundred and four 
 pounds of water in the blood and flesh. Analyze the 
 substance of our body, you find albumen, fibrine, cseine 
 and gelatine; that is, organic substance composed 
 originally of four essential gases — oxygen, nitrogen, 
 hydrogen and carbonic acid. You will also find gum, 
 sugar, starch, etc., substances which are exhaled dur- 
 ing exhalation under the form of carbonic acid and 
 water. Water is a combination of two gases, oxygen 
 and hydrogen; the air is a mixture of two gases, 
 oxygen and nitrogen, to which is added, in lesser pro- 
 portions, water in the form of vapor, which, however, 
 is but condensed oxygen. Thus our body is composed 
 only of transformed gases. 
 
 In a few months (not seven years, as was formerly 
 
 thought), our body is entirely renewed. None of the 
 
 flesh of our body existed three months ago; the 
 
 shoulders, face, eyes, mouth, the arms, the hair, all 
 
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18 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 of our organism is but a current of molecules, a 
 ceaselessly renewed flame, a river which we may look 
 upon all our lives but never see the same water again. 
 It is all nothing but assimilated gas, condensed and 
 modified, and more than anything else, it is air. Our 
 whole body is composed of invisible molecules, which, 
 when taken separately, do not touch each other, and 
 are continually renewed. 
 
 Finally, our table is spread. If we are vegetarians, 
 we absorb substance almost entirely drawn from the 
 air. This peach is air and water ; this pear, this grape, 
 this nut are also made of air and water, a few gaseous 
 elements drawn to them by the sap, by solar heat, by 
 rain. Asparagus or salad, peas, beans or lettuce, all 
 these live in the air and on air — the very same gases, 
 nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, etc. If it is a 
 question of meat, the difference is not great. This 
 substance, apparently so different, is only transformed 
 vegetable matter, which itself is but a grouping of 
 molecules taken from gases. Thus, whatever may be 
 our kind of nourishment, our body, kept repaired, de- 
 veloped by absorption of molecules, acquired by res- 
 piration and elimination, is really but a current in- 
 cessantly renewed by means of assimilation, directed, 
 governed and organized by the immaterial force which 
 animates us. To this force we may assuredly give the 
 name of living soul. It groups the atoms which suit 
 it, eliminates those which are useless to it, and, start- 
 
Our Carnal Body — What It Is 19 
 
 ing with an imperceptible speck, an indiscernible 
 germ, ends visible, intangible imponderable, to the 
 carnal eye, like the attractions which lulls the worlds 
 in a universal melody; and a body, however material 
 it may seem to us, is in itself only a harmonious group- 
 ing, formed by the attraction of this interior force." 
 
 Again, when you have an opportunity to do so, 
 place your hand under a one-hundred-power micro- 
 scope. You will take it away at least three times be- 
 fore you can bear to look at it. You will see a scabby, 
 maturated substance, full of holes, with microbes rim- 
 ing in and out. Such is your carnal body. This is the 
 body that you have been so generously feeding and 
 pampering while you have been letting your spirit 
 starve. Oh, feed the spirit and have a glorious, living- 
 soul, a body as an angel. We should use this body 
 or shell with care and judgment. It is the temple or 
 tent that we live in, and we will need it while on earth. 
 Some will say, Why, Jesus' body was raised; but you 
 must remember He was Jehovah: could, can and does 
 make and unmake worlds. We will be like Him, but 
 never equal to Him. You love Him here, I hope; if 
 so, you will adore Him in His kingdom. He is just 
 as far above us in beauty and power in that land of 
 love and glory, as He was here. I fully agree with 
 Jehovah, our Father and Creator, Moses, Abraham, 
 David, Solomon, Plato, Jesus, Paul and all the early 
 fathers, Dante, Milton and thousands of others, and 
 
20 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 science proves that our bodies are composed of three 
 substances. First, our earthly body is of the dust, 
 earthly, an earthly body, and to dust it returns. It is 
 not our true selves or ego, only an earthly tent bor- 
 rowed of the earth while we live here. It is also a 
 changeable body, not eternal nor lasting. I know 
 when we pass over to that spiritual land, our Master's 
 kingdom, so I plead with you to care more for the 
 welfarevand feeding of your spirit, and thereby pro- 
 duce soul on it, as this is what is called by Jesus the 
 body; also generally spoken of in the Scriptures as 
 your body, and is the body meant generally in that 
 Divine book when speaking of continued life or eter- 
 nal life. Also science and experience of all scientific 
 men prove it. 
 
 TRANSITION 
 
 A bloom is high up in the air, 
 
 On an oak tree and oh, so fair ; 
 A bur comes forth, then a nut you see ; 
 
 This is the life to be, the tree. 
 
 The bur died and so forth came he, — 
 The nut that hung on the oak tree, 
 
 The life of the tree that is to be ; 
 Not the shell but the nut, you see. 
 
 The nut then falls down to the ground; 
 
 Then soon some earth on it is found. 
 Lo ! up it comes the I am, you see, 
 
 Not the nut, but a green, oak tree. 
 
 As with all life, so you and me. 
 
 Lo ! forth we come and we are free. 
 
Our Carnal Body— What It Is 21 
 
 Our own ego is the I am to be, 
 
 Love the Lord and its joy, you see. 
 
 As with all life, so you and me, 
 
 There is no death, it's birth we see; 
 
 To a land of joy or land of woe; 
 To joy or woe, where will you go? 
 
OUR SOUL 
 
 Gen. 2 : 7. After our Father formed the carnal 
 body, or shell, he breathed into Adam's nostrils the 
 breath of life, and man became a living soul. Life, 
 spirit, soul, body of the spirit. You see soul is the 
 second principle, not the first. The spirit can exist 
 without the soul as an individual identity. Not so 
 with the soul. The spirit is eternal. Not so with the 
 soul. Soul can be destroyed. Paul says, Heb. 4 to 
 12: "The word of God is quick and powerful and 
 sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to 
 the dividing asunder of the soul and spirit. Do you 
 read the Bible as Paul read it? Let us read it as 
 Paul read it. Job 27 : 8 : "When God taketh away his 
 soul." He, his or him, the true self existed, the spirit. 
 Eccl. 18: 20: "The soul that sinneth it shall die." Je- 
 sus, Matt. 10 : 28 : "Fear him who is able to destroy 
 both body and soul." Matt. 16 : 26 : "Lose his own 
 soul!" Luke 12: 19: "This day thy soul shall be re- 
 quired of thee." We see that not only can the soul be 
 destroyed by sin, but it can be taken away from the true 
 ego, spirit. God said unto him, "Thou fool, this night 
 shall thy soul be required of thee." It can be demanded 
 
Our Soul— What It Is 23 
 
 and removed, but still the true him, the thee, the thou, 
 the spirit exists. In this case a lost spirit naked in a 
 land of darkness. No worldly goods, no soul. His 
 hands against every spirit in that land of darkness. 
 (See "Land of Darkness.") In Adam all die by sin. 
 In Christ all are made alive. Paul said, speaking to the 
 living on earth, "You are dead in your sins." Sin, 
 death, darkness and hate are all synonymous and the 
 opposite of light, life and love. Dr. J. M. Peebles, 
 M.D., M.A., Ph.D., on "Soul." "Sometimes un- 
 wisely called the astral body, is a genuine, substantial 
 body, constituted of the most delicate, imponderable 
 auras, atomic emanations, etherealized fluids, and re- 
 fined, invisible substances. It is from these infini- 
 tesimal elements and essences that the immortal prin- 
 cipal, the divine ego, constructs, by psycho-physiolog- 
 ical laws, affinities, attractions and polarizations, for 
 itself an enwrapping envelope, an ethereal soul-body, 
 interpermeating the material body, and of course of 
 the same form." The soul is driven by the dynamic 
 influence of the sun from the ethereal spheres above 
 and adheres to all things that attract it. We, our 
 spirits, are magnetics. We attract good if we are 
 good, and throw off evil. Or if evil, we attract evil 
 and throw off good. Luke 21:20: "In your patience 
 you shall win your soul." Now as we feed the spirit, 
 in just such a ratio does our spirit attract soul, which 
 is small particles of atoms, and the food of the spirit 
 
24 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 to produce soul is inorganic. First, a nearness and 
 love to our heavenly Father and Master. Second, 
 studying the dear old Bible. Third, good, pure litera- 
 ture. Fourth, good thoughts to all. Fifth, kindness 
 and love to all. Good acts towards all form our rai- 
 ments and wealth in heaven. See Rev. 19 : 8. This 
 is not all the food that is good for the spirit to pro- 
 duce soul, but part of it. You feed the carnal body 
 to produce flesh, which performs functions similar 
 as the soul does the spirit, giving it a complete, beau- 
 tiful body, and enables it to drift through the altitudes 
 of those heavenly spheres, in proportion as we have 
 soul on our spirit. The prophets, Jesus, the apostles 
 and writers often speak of the soul in the same sense 
 as we do of the carnal body. I speak of J. Jones. 
 I mean his spirit, soul and body. I speak of the soul, 
 I mean his soul and spirit. In this sense John speaks 
 of the souls he saw underneath the throne of God. as 
 the soul could not nor can it exist without the spirit 
 of true ego or self. Let us be wise and save our souls 
 and live so as to produce an abundance of soul for our 
 spirit. As we know a spirit without soul is lost, or 
 at least if the spirit is passing out calls on the Lord, 
 it is only a naked spirit, almost if not altogether, just 
 saved as if by fire; a poor, sick tramp in a land of 
 love and glory, and it will take a long time before 
 such a ! one can enter in the family circle in that land 
 of love, our Master's kingdom. There is in every per- 
 
Our Soul— What It Is 25 
 
 son on earth a spirit, and as it is clothed upon with 
 soul becomes beautified and glorified, just as Moses 
 and Elisha were when they stood with Jesus on the 
 Mount. You love to look well in this world, only a 
 few days at most. Oh, why not give more attention 
 towards looking well and being well in eternity. Oh, 
 I pray you to feed your spirits, and when you come to 
 pass over your birth will be victory, your entrance 
 into our Master's kingdom glorious. Just go sweep- 
 ing through those portals accompanied by your dear 
 ones gone on before and the angels, and immediately 
 to a beautiful home in that land of love, greeted by 
 the other dear ones there, see Jesus face to face and 
 live eternal in love. 
 
 This is the great question of life for each one to de- 
 cide for themselves, and not for another, Where shall 
 I spend eternity ? In a cave or rugged mountain side ? 
 In fear, terror, or a wretched hovel at best? In 
 shame, disgrace or fear? Or in a mansion, sur- 
 rounded with groves, flowers, shady walks and lovely 
 fountains, in safety and love with our dear loved ones, 
 always at home with Jesus and our dear heavenly 
 Father. This I know to be true. I have through grace 
 seen and handled naked spirits, and talked with them. 
 Seen them on earth and seen them in the Land of 
 Darkness. I have also seen living souls or spirits of 
 just ones made perfect, or partly perfect, embraced 
 them, talked with them, handled them both on this 
 
26 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 earth and in that Land of Love, our Master's king- 
 dom, and I know all through grace, and love of our 
 dear Father, Master and Holy Spirit. I have through 
 grace seen angels on earth, and in the Land of Love ; 
 had them take me by the hand, lead me and talk to 
 me, and tell me many things ; some I remember, some 
 not. Oh, the goodness of our Lord King and Elder 
 Brother and the angels to an unworthy creature like 
 me. I am just a witness of the truth as it is, and ever 
 will be. I know also He, our Savior, is coming soon. 
 I do not know the hour or the day, but know He with 
 the twelve apostles cometh soon. Oh, dear reader, 
 make ready, get ready, to meet him. Come, Lord 
 Jesus, quickly come. 
 
 Now, please don't understand me to say that I do 
 not believe in the resurrection of the carnal body at 
 the coming of our Lord and Master, for those that 
 will live on this earth ; but those that remain in the 
 heavens will not need it. I do believe, but I don't 
 know it, though I do know through grace of the indi- 
 viduality, and identity and immortality of our beau- 
 tiful, living soul, if only begotten of the Holy Spirit. 
 In I Thess. 5 : 33, St. Paul says : "May the Lord pre- 
 serve your spirit, soul and body." You are a spirit with 
 a soul and body. Not a soul and body with a spirit, and 
 as a caterpillar sheds his shell and becomes a butterfly, 
 first a creeping insect or citizen of the earth then a 
 citizen of the air, so do you in passing over become a 
 
Our SouL-What It Is 27 
 
 citizen of the universe, a citizen of glory or a land 
 of darkness. Deut. 32 : 50 : "The Lord said unto 
 Moses, Get thee up into the mount Nebo and die 
 in the mount whither thou goest up, and be gath- 
 ered unto thy people, as Aaron was gathered unto 
 that kingdom whose foundation was before the world," 
 our Master's kingdom, where Moses and Aaron's 
 people were. Luke 20:37: "But the dead are 
 raised." Not to be, but are. Our Father is not the God 
 of the dead, but of the living. I, like my Master, call 
 the living soul my true self, which it is, while our car- 
 nal body is only our earthly tabernacle. Luke 16: 20: 
 "Now there was a certain rich man, and he was 
 clothed in purple and fine linen, fared sumptuously 
 every day; and a certain beggar whose name was 
 Lazarus was laid at his gate full of sores, and desiring 
 to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich 
 man's table. Yea, even the dogs came and licked his 
 sores. And it came to pass that the beggar died, and 
 that he was carried away by the angels unto Abra- 
 ham's bosom. And the rich man also died and was 
 buried." Now, our Savior makes a statement. He 
 does not say there might have been, but that there 
 was. In the positive case and past tense. Do you be- 
 lieve him? I do. I will take his word against the 
 world. This is no parable, but a positive statement of 
 an event that occurred, showing clearly and definitely 
 that as men live here in this world unto pleasure, self- 
 
28 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 indulgence, mammon and sin, their position in the 
 future world to which we are all going has been and 
 will be hell. While on the other hand, service to our 
 dear Master, and love and gentleness and kindness 
 to our fellow-man, and helping to save living souls, we 
 became through grace heirs of His salvation. 
 
 Second. We know each other in that other world, 
 feel, see, talk, understand and enjoy as our lot will be. 
 Also, in that world they that are in the land of dark- 
 ness long to send word to their brethren not to come 
 to that place of torment, oh, so dark and dreary, 
 hovels so wretched where spirits wander, every spir- 
 it's hand against all. They understand, talk and suf- 
 fer, or enjoy the kingdom of our Master, as their lots 
 are. Luke 19:21: "Neither shall they say, Lo here, 
 nor Lo there, for the kingdom of God is within you." 
 Luke 19:25: "For what is a man profited if he gain 
 the whole world and forfeit his own soul." Again, 
 Luke 9 : 27 : "But I tell you of a truth there be some 
 of them that stand here which shall in no wise taste 
 0% death, until they see the kingdom of God. And it 
 came to pass about eight days after these sayings, he 
 took with him Peter and John and James and went 
 up into the mountain to pray. And as he was praying 
 the fashion of his countenance was altered and his 
 raiment became white and dazzling and behold there 
 talked with him two men, which were Moses and Eli- 
 jah, who appeared in glory and spake of his decease 
 
Our Soul— What It Is 29 
 
 which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem." 
 Here we see Moses, who had. been buried and his liv- 
 ing soul been gathered to his fathers fourteen hundred 
 and sixty years before, standing with the Master, 
 etherealized, beautified and glorified, talking of that 
 act of acts, Jesus' death, that we might live. What 
 makes the kingdom of Germany? Germans, is it not? 
 What makes America? Americans. What makes our 
 Master's kingdom? Living souls. This was what our 
 dear Master was showing his apostles, just what by 
 the grace of the spirit I am trying to show you, the 
 beauty, identity, individuality and immortality of our 
 living soul. Oh, so beautiful, if born again and 
 washed in Jesus' blood, like an angel. If an angel 
 and a living soul of the higher grade, with those 
 beautiful white raiments on was standing twenty-five 
 feet from you, with his back turned towards you, 
 you could not tell which was angel, or which was 
 living soul ; but let them turn their faces towards you, 
 and the living soul has the same dear features that 
 it had on earth, only like Moses and Elijah ethereal- 
 ized, glorified and radiant, lovely and beautiful, but 
 just the same dear face you knew so well, and greets 
 you home at last, with such a lovely welcome, while 
 the angel's face is chiseled so perfectly with hair in 
 beautiful ringlets, eyes so large and filled with such 
 divine love, and are so gentle and kind. In verse 
 32 of the same chapter we see that the apostles were 
 
30 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 fully awake, when they saw the Master's glory, and 
 Moses and Elijah in their glory and beauty. Our 
 heavenly Father approves of this act of our dear 
 Savior, and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, 
 This is my beloved Son, my chosen, hear ye him. 
 I say again with Paul, if there is a carnal body there 
 is a spiritual body. Let us see what the oldest of the 
 divine writers say. Job 14 : 14 : "If a man die shall 
 he live again?" He seems to be in doubt here, but 
 let us turn to chapter 19:25: "But I know that my 
 Redeemer liveth and that he shall stand up at the 
 last upon the earth, and after my skin this body be 
 destroyed, yet without the flesh shall I see God, whom 
 I shall see for myself, and my eyes shall behold him, 
 and not as a stranger." We boast to-day of our 
 Christianity. Do you know that your Redeemer liv- 
 eth? You know all about a dollar. Do you know 
 anything about your living soul? Do you know 
 how you will greet or welcome the Master, or will 
 you be greeted as a stranger or as a friend? Oh, 
 love him just a little and he will love you more. But 
 I say not only love him, but adore him, Father, Son, 
 and Holy Spirit, ever blessed Trinity. Have we not 
 drifted from Jehovah our Master and the Holy 
 Spirit, not they from us? What was the mission of 
 Jehovah's Son here on earth? To save spirits, was 
 it not? His last act on the cross showed it. Even 
 during the agonies of death, for you and me, He says 
 
Our SouU-What It Is 31 
 
 to the thief on the cross, "This day shalt thou be with 
 me in paradise." The bones of the thief's carnal body 
 were broken and the body buried, but the living soul 
 of the repentant thief and robber went with the Mas- 
 ter to that land of light and love, his kingdom. Is 
 not this a beautiful lesson? No spirit can be so low 
 that he will not hear their cry. 
 
 Peter tells us that Jesus preached to the spirits in 
 prison. Jesus tells us that the dead should hear his 
 voice and live ; and Jesus again says, John 1 1 : 26 : 
 "Whosoever liveth and believeth on me shall never 
 die." We that are begotten of the spirit do not die. 
 Before the living soul leaves this shell, or shortly after 
 it, we will see our dear reborn ones and the angels. 
 It sees the light of those glorious portals where it is 
 met by the angels from the Most High, beautiful like 
 young men from eighteen to twenty, and faces so 
 chiseled, delicate, and fine features so regular that you 
 would think they were ladies glorified. Their beauti- 
 ful hair hangs in long ringlets and eyes so large and 
 powerful filled to overflowing with divine love, so 
 gentle, kind and loving. Stephen, when he looked 
 up -saw our dear Master on the right hand of our 
 dear loving Father. Stonewall Jackson said, "Let 
 us cross the river and rest in the shade of those trees.'' 
 Think you not that he saw that land of glory the same 
 as Stephen saw the Master? And when Moody was 
 passing over he said, "The earth recedes and heaven 
 
32 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 approaches. I hear God's angels calling me. I have 
 been within the gates, I have seen the children. If 
 this is death it is glorious. There is no valley." Think 
 you not that this man whose converts to the Lord by 
 the spirit were not counted by the thousands, but by 
 the hundreds of thousands, saw he not that land of 
 glory? And if you and I will live as close to Jesus 
 as General Stonewall Jackson and Moody we will 
 see the same, and we will see our dear ones when 
 the living soul sees through the veil of carnality. He- 
 brews 1:14: "Are they not all ministering spirits, 
 sent forth to do service to those who shall inherit 
 eternal life?" We shall see the dear ones gone on be- 
 fore, and some see them at times and hear the glori- 
 ous music. Oh, Father, Master, Holy Spirit, help me 
 to describe a living soul. Face and features just as 
 we knew the dear one here below, only etherealized, 
 beautified, radiant and glorified, form so perfect, 
 movement graceful, kingly and queenly, raiment so 
 fiine and beautiful, they fit the form perfectly. Dif- 
 ferent colors, white or white with a golden tinge of 
 color. They fold and look like crepe, gauze or silk; 
 nothing can compare with their beauty. A smile upon 
 their lips, and oh, the heavenly love flowing from 
 their eyes as they greet you home at last. Let me 
 tell you of a truth, that dear mother, father, sister, 
 brother, wife, husband and children, that have passed 
 over in Jesus' love awaits you there, longing for you 
 
Our Soul— What It Is 33 
 
 to come to that eternal home, and wish me to ask 
 you. Are you coming to them as you have promised 
 to meet them there? They love you more than ever 
 and are near you often, trying to help you home to 
 your Master's kingdom. I say with Paul, You are a 
 spirit with a soul, body and carnal shell. 
 
 Now, I will call your attention to what John saw 
 when he was in the spirit. Being in the spirit, and the 
 spirit in you, or upon you, are all three different ac- 
 tions of the Holy Spirit upon your spirit. Carnal 
 things disappear from view and the eternal things, or 
 spiritual and internal things, are seen. Being in the 
 spirit as John was, is a disassociation, or separation, 
 of the spirit and soul from the carnal body, thereby 
 enabling the person's true self to ascend to those 
 spheres of glory. Rev. 6:9: "And when he opened 
 the fifth seal he saw underneath the altar the souls 
 of them that had been slain for the word of God." 
 There was given to each one of them a white robe. 
 He did not see men, but living souls. They had 
 tongues and spoke. Forms that were clothed. Rev. 
 7:9: "After these things I saw and behold a great 
 multitude which no man could number out of every 
 nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, 
 standing before the throne and before the Lamb, ar- 
 rayed in white robes, and palm in their hands, and 
 they cry with a great voice saying, Salvation unto 
 our God which sitteth on the throne and unto the 
 3 
 
34 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Lamb. And all the angels were standing round about 
 the throne and the elders and living creatures, and 
 they fell before the throne on their faces and wor- 
 shiped God, and one of the elders answered saying 
 unto me, These which are arrayed in the white robes, 
 who are they, and whence came they? and I said 
 unto him, My Lord, thou knowest. And he said unto 
 me, These are they which came out of great tribula- 
 tion and they wash their robes and made them white 
 in the blood of the Lamb." Let us consider what John 
 saw. First, he saw in heaven around the Father's 
 throne living souls, just such bodies as are within 
 your body and mine, the eternal part of us, our true 
 selves. Just such bodies and forms and beautiful 
 faces as he saw on the mountain when he beheld 
 Moses and Elijah, etherealized, glorified and beauti- 
 ful, and they were from all peoples and nations, 
 great multitudes of individualities, but when asked 
 the question by the elder who are, they, he was aston- 
 ished and could not tell. It was hard for him to real- 
 ize that such beautiful bodies were once encased in 
 shells or carnal bodies, like yours and mine, now 
 seen in the service of the Most High Jehovah, close 
 to his person, cared for by him and led by Jesus 
 amongst the fountains of life where all is beautiful 
 and perfect. In love, oh, love supreme, oh, love 
 divine, oh, won't you come and join that multitude? 
 I bid you welcome in Jesus' name, and he that will, 
 
Our Soul— What It Is 35 
 
 let him take of the water of life freely. Yea, thou art 
 a spirit with a soul body, a living soul encased in an 
 earthly body. Spirit, first principle, eternal, immor- 
 tal. Soul, second principle, body of the spirit. Liv- 
 ing, soul, same as created in man. 
 
 THE TRANSITION OF LIFE. 
 
 A caterpil'r crawls on the ground; 
 
 A worm disgusting but profound, 
 He enters a cocoon like a bee; 
 
 It breaks a butterfly you see. 
 
 As with all life so you and me; 
 
 Lo ! forth we come forever free, 
 Our spirit is the I AM to be ; 
 
 Our body — soul ; its birth ! we see. 
 
 PART SECOND. 
 
 With our Father's consent the Master died; 
 "To Thy hands I give my spirit," he cried; 
 Through their love forever and beautified; 
 Spirits made perfect in heaven reside. 
 
OUR SPIRIT 
 
 Gen. 2:j: "The Lord God formed man of the dust 
 of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the 
 breath of life, and man became a living soul." First, 
 we have the record of our heavenly Father forming 
 the earthly body, or tabernacle, of our true body, the 
 living soul. Life the spirit, soul the body of the 
 spirit. Then . he blew his breath into Adam's nos- 
 trils and it became product, living soul — a corpse 
 turned into a living creature by our Father impart- 
 ing into it a portion of himself. The Spirit — Num. 
 16:17: "He is the God of all spirits"; Heb. 2:9: 
 "Father of all spirits in the flesh"; John 4:24: 
 "Our Father is a spirit and we must worship him in 
 spirit and in truth." Again, Jesus says, "I and my 
 Father are one" ; therefore, Jesus is spirit and we 
 shall be like him. Job 32 : 8 : Dust to the earth as it 
 was, and the spirit to God who gave it. A spirit came 
 before him, and acting, feeling, walking, impressive 
 form, filling every part of our carnal body, and when 
 separated from the shell a gaseous substance, refined 
 and beautiful, the perfect form of our carnal body 
 complete, head, features, just the same, trunk, arms, 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 37 
 
 legs and feet exact, this true self walks, drifts at 
 great speed when absent from the body, and is the 
 controlling and eternal part of our body, which is 
 composed of spirit and receives all impressions for 
 good from angels and spirits of just ones made per- 
 fect that surround us if we so will, or angels of 
 darkness or spirits of lower grade if we allow them; 
 is our true ego or selves, and as it is clothed upon 
 with soul which adheres to our spirits similarly as 
 flesh to our bones in the carnal body, so is our beauty 
 even like being as angels of our heavenly Father. The 
 spirit needs to be fed to produce soul upon the spirit, 
 as well as our carnal body to produce flesh upon the 
 bones. Spirit is intelligence, inorganic, and needs 
 inorganic food. First, Spirit with a soul, celestial 
 body; second, Spirit with a soul celestial and an 
 earthly body. Our spirit is a portion of our Father 
 who is spirit, consequently we are spirit. Again, as 
 Paul says, we are spirits in the flesh while on earth, 
 no more, no less. Spirit being a part of our dear 
 Father is indestructible and eternal, therefore the first 
 principle in men, and the only portion but what is 
 destructible, therefore our true self or ego, damned 
 or blessed, still a spirit, ever a spirit. And Job says, 
 "there is a spirit in man," and there is ; I know it. 
 Job 4:15: "A spirit passed before my face." Job 
 10:11, 12: "Thou hast clothed me with skin and 
 flesh, hast fenced me with bones and sinews, thou 
 
38 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 hast granted me life and favor, and thy visitation 
 hath preserved my spirit/' Psalms 18: 17, David 
 says : "I shall not die, but live." Thou hast become 
 my salvation. The stone which the builders rejected 
 has become the head of the corner. This is Jehovah's 
 doing. He is speaking of Jesus, the evergiving life, 
 and Jesus refers to himself as the stone that the build- 
 ers rejected, so that David, like Job, knew that he 
 would not die, but live. Well did he say, "I com- 
 mend my spirit unto thee," to our Father, recogniz- 
 ing his spirit as eternal, and our Father as the Father 
 of spirits, and our Master the Redeemer of spirits. 
 Samuel appeared before Saul. Jesus addressed the 
 evil spirits as individual identities. They recognized 
 him, called him the Son of the living God, and obeyed 
 him as such, and when the apostles saw our Savior 
 walking on the water they thought he was spirit. 
 This shows the belief and knowledge of the ancients 
 down to Jesus and the apostles ; yes, and in their time 
 man was considered a spirit and influenced by his 
 spiritual surroundings. Gamaliel, at whose feet Paul 
 sat, and a leading member of the Sanhedrin, in speak- 
 ing of the apostles, says : "If a spirit or angel has 
 spoken to them," shows he recognizes spirit and angel 
 influence, for he is not the God of the dead but of the 
 living, for all live unto him. Matthew 57 : 52 : "And 
 came out of their graves after the resurrection and 
 went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 39 
 
 Pilate is more full in his description of this first res- 
 urrection in his letter to Julius Caesar and Tiberius 
 Caesar. He says that there were great earthquakes at 
 about the third hour in the morning. It became ten 
 times brighter than the brightest day and there was 
 seen men of tall stature passing through the air shout- 
 ing, He is risen, He is risen. Come ye forth from 
 hades ; and many of the ancient prophets and kings 
 and people, also many of our own age, were seen 
 and recognized as they came forth from their graves 
 by those living, and I myself saw many of them. So 
 says Pilate. And when Jesus showed himself to the 
 apostles he was not only spirit, but glorified Jehovah, 
 as we will see Him in His glorious kingdom, face to 
 face. He was the Son of our dear heavenly Father 
 by birthright. Was and ever will be Jehovah; never 
 was man, only took unto himself an earthly shell, or 
 tabernacle, thereby drawing us to his Father by birth- 
 right in sympathy and love, our Father by creation 
 and adoption, we a spirit and soul. And Paul tells 
 us, I Tim. 9: 10: "Christ Jesus before times eternal, 
 but hath now been made manifest by the appearing of 
 our Savior, Christ Jesus, who abolished death and 
 brought life and immortality to light through the gos- 
 pel." This is what I am trying to show you. First, 
 I John 4:3: "Judge the spirits." Hereby know ye the 
 spirits. You nor I never thought of a wrong act but 
 what a sweet, small voice said, "Don't do it," so kind 
 
40 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 and gentle. Another voice says, "Come on and let's 
 do it. We will make so much." If you obeyed the first 
 voice you felt stronger and better. You were. You 
 had obeyed a good spirit or angel and accumulated 
 a certain amount of soul on your spirit, but if you 
 obeyed the evil spirit you are weak and ashamed, 
 especially when you met the party you had wronged. 
 Yes, you sinned and destroyed a portion of the soul 
 on your spirit. Judge ye the spirits. There is no such 
 thing as conscience, only as a product. We are con- 
 trolled as we will by our invironments, powers, an- 
 gels or spirits in the flesh or out of the flesh. Job 
 says there is a spirit in man. Not mind or breath, but 
 a spirit (ranch). And the inspiration of the Almighty 
 giveth Him an understanding. In the thirty-four 
 books of the Old Testament the two original words, 
 ranch, meaning spirit, and, nephesh, meaning soul, 
 are never confounded, but kept clear and distinct. 
 In the twenty-seven books of the New Testament, 
 pneuma, meaning spirit, or" psnche, meaning soul, are 
 not confounded, nor are they used in the place of 
 each other in the original. They are not even synony- 
 mous. Well did Paul say in Heb. 4: 12, "The word of 
 God is living and active and sharper than any two- 
 edged sword and piercing even to the dividing of 
 soul and spirit." Do we read the Bible as Paul did? 
 If not had we not better read it as he did, and try 
 and understand it as he did? Job 12 : 10: "And a spirit 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 41 
 
 came before him" (ranch) shows here to be a walking, 
 talking, conscientious spirit. Our Savior in address- 
 ing spirits of the evil one never called them souls. 
 He tells us the soul can be destroyed, but never the 
 spirit. It is a potent individuality, a portion of our 
 heavenly Father, and is eternal and immortal. Fear 
 not him who can destroy the body only, but rather 
 fear him who can destroy both body and soul. Our 
 heavenly Father is a spirit, and we must worship him 
 in spirit and truth. In Psa. 31:5, David says, "Into 
 thy hands I commit my spirits." Stephen says, "Lord 
 Jesus, receive my spirit." Jesus, Luke 23 : 46, "Father 
 into thy hands I commend my spirit." Paul and John 
 saw the spirits of just men made perfect. Moses and 
 Elijah when with our Master on the mount were spir- 
 its of just men made perfect, living souls — just such 
 bodies as are in you and me in a state of completion. 
 I also know that we are no more, no less, than spirits 
 in the flesh, accumulating or destroying soul on or 
 off of our spirits while here below in this workshop, 
 our earth, where spirits are made — just as you cut a 
 twig from a willow tree and plant it you produce a 
 willow tree, or plant a joint of cane and you produce 
 a hill of cane. Like produces like, environments be- 
 ing fair, and will multiply in proportion as it is 
 planted. Luke 8 : 54, 55 : When Jesus raised Jairus' 
 daughter from the dead he "taking her by the hand, 
 called, saying, Maiden, arise, and her spirit returned 
 
42 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 and she arose up immediately." Note, it was her spir- 
 it, not her soul, that returned. First, we are begotten 
 of the spirit of our heavenly Father and Master when 
 our spirit turns from evil unto good, from serving 
 Satan to serving Jesus. Then we are born of the 
 spirit when we pass over to that other country, the 
 Great Spiritual Universe, each one going to his own 
 place and people as he has lived here below, some to 
 a land of darkness, despair and terror, others to a 
 land of glory, our Master's kingdom. The great 
 question is, Where shall I spend eternity? When 
 we were born into this world, others were here to 
 care for us. When we are born in the other spheres, 
 if we have lived near to Jesus or called on his name, 
 generally our dearest loved ones that have passed 
 over before will be there to greet and care for us, as 
 well as an angel of light. They cheer and guide us 
 and escort us to that land of love. Oh, joyous birth, 
 oh, glorious land, oh, all glory to thee, our Savior, 
 who died that we might live. Not die, no not even 
 die easy, a spirit of a just one made perfect; a spirit 
 now, a spirit then ; a spirit glorified, clothed upon with 
 soul, forever our celestial bodies, beautified and glori- 
 fied, residents of a spiritual land, our Master's king- 
 dom. 
 
 There are four words translated spirit, ruach, 
 pneuma, neshamah, phanasma, ncshamah, last mean- 
 ing breath of life, and rendered, "spirit" but twice. 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 43 
 
 When His disciples saw our Master walking on the 
 water they said, It is a spirit (phantasma) . In this 
 place they express the common belief in the spirit or 
 the presence of spirits. Pilate, in his report to Caesar, 
 says that at the resurrection of our Master the spir- 
 its of Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jonah, Job, Isaiah, 
 David, as well as many others were seen and recog- 
 nized by the Jews, and that he himself also saw many 
 spirits, also angels. Nicodemus in his gospel tells us 
 that the two sons of Simon, the high priest who took 
 Jesus in his arms, and blessed him and praised our 
 heavenly Father for having lived to see him, were 
 recognized and that Ananias Capias, Nicodemus and 
 Joseph, and Gamaliel went and did not find them in 
 their graves, but found them on their knees in prayer, 
 and brought them to the temple, and took the Bible 
 and put it in their hands and swore them by God 
 Adonai and the God of Israel. If ye believe Him 
 who raised you from the dead, tell us what ye have 
 seen, how ye were raised from the dead. And they 
 asked for paper to write it down. (Our Savior ap- 
 peared in hades ; His releasing of the captive spirits 
 from hades.) He appeared to us suddenly in great 
 beauty and power, and stretched forth his hands, 
 said, Come to me, my saints, who were created in my 
 image, and taking Adam by his right hand, he as- 
 cended from hades, and all the saints of God followed 
 Him. Then they all broke forth in praise unto the 
 
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 Lord of hosts, also relating the meeting in Paradise 
 of our Lord and Master, with Adam, and the hosts 
 redeemed by his blood; also with Elisha, Enoch and 
 the thief, who turned to our Master when on the 
 cross, and when they had finished they said, Peace 
 be unto you from the Lord God Jesus Christ and 
 Savior of us all ; they were then changed into exceed- 
 ingly white forms and disappeared. Thus was ful- 
 filled the prophecy of Jesus that the dead should have 
 the gospel preached unto them. And Peter tells us 
 that he preached to the spirits which were in the 
 prison, that lived during the time of Noah, and many 
 did repent and live. That prison is just as real to-day 
 as then. Spirits that pass out that have lived wickedly 
 without soul, their soul having been destroyed by sin. 
 As I live, saith the Lord God Almighty, the soul that 
 sinneth it shall die; they live in a land of darkness, 
 wretched, without hope, in perfect terror of each 
 other and spirits of the evil one — a land so barren and 
 dreary. I do pray that our heavenly Father will send 
 his Son, or angels, and redeem them soon, if such 
 can be. How are the dead raised, and with what 
 manner of body do they come? They come as the 
 grain comes by the seed. The seed does not rise. It 
 remains and moulds in the earth. The body does not 
 rise. It remains and moulders in the earth, but our 
 Father gives us a body as it pleaseth Him, to each 
 spirit a body of his own, as He has lived on this earth 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 45 
 
 and put on immortality, through love and light. Oh, 
 my dear friends, I pray thou may not be found naked, 
 but be clothed upon with soul. The word of Jesus 
 to those that live a Christlike life, and children, is, 
 "Suffer little children to come unto me and forbid 
 them not; for of such is the kingdom of heaven." 
 The great trouble of the age is even that some of our 
 ministers of the gospel depend more on the lexicons 
 and dictionaries than they do on the Bible. The writ- 
 ers of lexicons and dictionaries never made a word, 
 they only report on them, and like mercantile agencies 
 they are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. Let 
 us depend more on our guardian angel's influence, on 
 our spirit with right understanding, pray our Master 
 to help us understand, like Paul, through grace. 
 I Cor. 15:4, "And that he was buried, and that he 
 hath been raised on the third day according to the 
 scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to 
 the twelve, then he appeared to above five hundred 
 brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain 
 until now." A spirit Jehovah beheld by many breth- 
 ren. 
 
 Oh, brother and sister, father, mother, daughter or 
 son, don't go to that land of darkness, but turn to 
 Jesus and live. Do good and forget not the guidance 
 of your guardian angel that speaks so kindly, gently 
 and lovingly to you, and have your spirit clothed upon 
 with soul until it will be as beautiful as Moses and 
 
46 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Elijah on the mount with the Master, who loved us 
 and died for us that we might live, or like those that 
 John saw around our Father's throne. In this line 
 our dear Master cried, "Into thy hands, Father, I 
 commend my spirit" ; and when Stephen was stoned, 
 his carnal body crushed and bleeding, cried, "Lord 
 Jesus, receive my spirit." His spirit with his soul, the 
 body of the spirit, ascended on high, a spirit of a just 
 one made perfect in love. Now, through grace I have 
 seen, embraced and handled the spirits of just ones 
 made perfect. Through the love of our Father and 
 Master I know of what I write. The purity of love, 
 the beauty and glory of our loved ones, and their 
 lovely welcome — of home at last, our spiritual home, 
 our Master's kingdom. Dear friend, I know of a cer- 
 tainty that those who have passed over in Jesus' love 
 live a life that is just as, glorious, and they wait and 
 long to welcome you home. Won't you come and live 
 with the angels and dear ones in that land of love, 
 blessed land? All life has its laws, and if we obey 
 the laws of a spiritual life we have a right to a spirit- 
 ual life. There are laws of the body, and if one obeys 
 the laws he has the right to health. So there are laws 
 of the spirit, and if one complies with them he has the 
 right to a spiritual life, because it is the life of the 
 spirit, is eternal. We are continually surrounded by 
 angels of our heavenly Father. The apostle tells us 
 they are ministering spirits sent forth to do service 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 47 
 
 to those who shall inherit salvation, also the spirits of 
 just ones made perfect. Our mothers, fathers, sis- 
 ters, brothers and sons, and friends by the will of our 
 Father in heaven, and the love of his only begotten 
 Son, Jesus, come often to us with messages of love 
 and wisdom, and try to lead and prepare us to go 
 home with them. Oh, listen to them and your guar- 
 dian angel that speaks to you. When you think of 
 doing a wrong, a voice says to you, Don't do it. You 
 probably call it conscience. It is a spirit impressing 
 you, your spirit. Obey it always. Do right and it 
 will be well with you. All sin is forgiven unto man 
 except sin against the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit 
 of God in triune form. Sin is a non-conformity or 
 transgression, so do conform thereto. Always try the 
 spirits that impress you ; if they lead to good, peace 
 and joy, obey them ; but if to anger, malice or wrong, 
 either to yourselves, our heavenly Father or our fel- 
 low-man, obey them not. They are of the evil one, 
 who seeks to destroy your soul, and thereby obtain 
 possession of your spirit, and finally escort you to 
 that land of darkness. You say you do not see them. 
 Neither do you see electricity before it enters the or- 
 ganic state ; that is the positive and negative come 
 together. Then you see a spark or a flash, but the 
 electricity existed before you saw it, and every step 
 you take a certain amount of it passes through you, 
 carrying a certain amount of aroma, which is peculiar 
 
48 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 to each person, leaving thereby a scent that a dog can 
 follow, even crossing other person's tracks; yet you 
 don't see it, but the dog smells it — a positive proof 
 that it exists. So you see it does not do to say a thing 
 does not exist just because we do not see it with our 
 carnal eyes. You may not have seen a spirit. Men 
 and women of every age testify that they have. Photo- 
 graphs have been taken of them. They have been 
 seen, known, recognized, even while the person was 
 still in the flesh or an inhabitant of this earth, the 
 spirit and part of the soul being miles away from the 
 carnal body. Spiritualism is true ; so is spiritism. In 
 a way spiritualism is the association of ourselves with 
 angels of light, spirits of just ones made perfect, or 
 the spiritual powers of our Master and Father; in 
 association with all pure or that try to be pure. We 
 never go inside of a church but that we associate with 
 the angels of the most high, as they rendezvous there 
 and go from there on their missions of mercy. To 
 meet in prayer in a light room, the lighter the better, 
 and hold intercourse with the higher powers is bene- 
 ficial, but to go into a dark room or saloon is to court 
 the spirits of darkness or those that wander on or in 
 this earth's sphere. They are dangerous and hurtful. 
 They do not seem to understand anything about the 
 upper spheres, are cunning and deceitful, just as they 
 were on earth, only more knowledge of earthly things 
 at times, and working for the retention of all spirits 
 
Our Spirit— What It Is 49 
 
 in the flesh, for their spheres. They deny the Savior, 
 and as John said, are anti-Christ. So in all cases 
 avoid them. This is spiritism, not spiritualism. The 
 latter elevates. Spiritism degenerates, and is very 
 dangerous. Associate with good and you will become 
 better; associate with evil and you will become more 
 evil, either in the flesh or out of the flesh. And I am 
 sorry to see some of the soldiers of Jesus, and serv- 
 ants of the Most High Spirit, our Father, let go of 
 the banner of spiritualism, just because a few spiritists 
 have tried to claim it. As a true soldier should never 
 abandon the fort nor his colors, never run but ad- 
 vance, investigate, conquer and report. Then turn to 
 Jesus, the author and finisher of our knowledge, faith 
 and love, and live as near as possible the life he lived, 
 not only loving, but adoring the Father, His Son Je- 
 sus, His Son by birthright, and the Holy Spirit, and 
 come to His kingdom. In His name I bid you wel- 
 come to that land of love, purity, beauty, a spiritual 
 kingdom, His kingdom, our home. Wherefore, we are 
 a spirit in the flesh now, shall be a spirit found naked 
 in the land of darkness, or a spirit clothed upon with 
 soul in that land of love. A spirit forever, saved or 
 lost — which shall it be? 
 
50 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 LIFE. 
 
 Spirit of God, indite my lyre! 
 Touch Thou my pen with living fire 
 As unto earth I now proclaim 
 The honors of my Savior's name. 
 
 He suffered death new life to give — 
 'Tis life through birth we must receive — 
 New life that has no part in death, 
 Eternal life called the new birth. 
 
 The law of life writ on our heart — 
 To fructify the spirit part — 
 Real life ! — true life ! so freely given, 
 Began on earth, but child of heaven. 
 
 The old corn dies, new life shoots forth — 
 The soul it lives with spirit worth. 
 The body dies because of sin, 
 Which law is dead to all within. 
 
 Yes, dies because it has no part 
 In affections ruling of the heart; 
 The soul to Christ's own life aspires — 
 To body, 'tis a thousand fires. 
 
 Up, then, Christ's living of to-day! 
 Launch forth thy bark upon the bay! 
 The Christ, the Christ forsook the earth, 
 So also you at the new birth. 
 
 Exalted be above the world, 
 Nor be in it by passion whirled. 
 Christ is our life — he's gone before — 
 Launch out, launch out ! well from the shore. 
 
 No death have we who love the Lord; 
 Receive this truth, tell it abroad, 
 For we from death have been made free 
 By Christ's own law of liberty. 
 
 A. Phinney. 
 
DEATH 
 
 Gen. 2: 17: "In the day that thou eatest thereof, 
 thou shalt surely die." This is spoken by our heav- 
 enly Father to Adam, earthly father of us all. He 
 transgressed and died, so all inherit death through 
 him. Eccl. 18:32: "For why will ye die, O house of 
 Israel, for I have no pleasure in him that dieth, saith 
 the Lord; wherefore turn yourselves and live ye." 
 Eccl. 18:4: "The soul that sinneth shall die." I Chron. 
 15:4 and Jer. 31:30: "Every man shall die for his 
 own sin." We have our dear heavenly Father's say- 
 ing, He has no pleasure in the death of the sinner, but 
 requesteth him to turn and live. Rom. 5 : 14, Paul 
 tells us death reigns from Adam to Moses. Rom. 18: 
 3 : "If ye live after the flesh ye shall die." So you 
 see in every instance death and sin go hand in hand ; 
 they are partners, and always associated with each 
 other. Sin, death and Satan, I should have said, are 
 complete partners, for the destruction of soul and 
 body, and retention of spirit. (Spirit our true ego, 
 the I am and ever will be. Soul body of the spirit, 
 and what we call body, our earthly shell.) Darkness 
 invariably accompanies this trio of destroyers — sin, 
 
52 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Satan and death. Some claim that Satan has been 
 bound over since the Reformation. All I have to say, 
 is, if so, he has some elegant representatives here on 
 earth. I know the wages of sin is death. Have you 
 ever stood at the death bed of an unrepenting sinner, 
 and heard him cry out, "Oh, the demons are here. 
 Don't you see that one coming after me? See, he is 
 right beside me. Keep him back. Don't let him get 
 me. Also that man I wronged. He is with him; he 
 is striking me ; now keep them away ; don't let them 
 have me." Did you not feel as though you could al- 
 most see them as he described them in his agony and 
 struggles? All in vain, and you unable to help him. 
 Again, did you not know that what is called the 
 hallucinations of a person in delirium tremens are real ? 
 More real than you think. All that occurs is the soul, 
 or most of it has been eaten off of his spirit by liquor, 
 which in proportion as you drink, eats the soul off the 
 spirit, just as aqua fortis eats the flesh, and leaves just 
 a naked spirit in the body, lower than a brute. Man- 
 hood lost, soul lost, bound for the land of darkness, 
 and the strain of the spirit on the shell or carnal body 
 causes the dilation of the pupil of the eye, and he 
 just sees his environments. These objects that he sees 
 will be his companions in eternity, if he should pass 
 out in that state. This is death. There is not a dive 
 or saloon on earth that the angels of Satan and lost 
 spirits do not make their headquarters, and go forth 
 
Death— What It Is 53 
 
 from there on their missions of destruction. If you 
 are a clairvoyant, as you passed a saloon you could see 
 the poor, wretched, naked spirits reaching, crying, 
 struggling to get liquor, but cannot. If you are a 
 clairaudiant, you could hear their cries, oh, blasphem- 
 ous, most horrible. (Saloons are the recruiting offices 
 of the chain gang and hell.) Are these to be your as- 
 sociates in eternity? Faces and features the same as 
 on earth, only distorted with disappointment, fear and 
 terror, forms like skeletons, bodies not luminous but 
 blotched. One or the other you must be, a lost spirit 
 or a saved one. Which shall it be? Satan, his lost 
 spirits and angels are battling to obtain victims here 
 for the land of darkness. Woe, woe, to those, who 
 do not call on Jesus, that have lived a life of sin or 
 neglected their salvation. (Regarding liquor ; science 
 proves that "alcohol is a poison. Not a food; a nar- 
 cotic, irritant, and not a stimulant which gives 
 strength ; that it cannot sustain the body in weariness, 
 and is injurious in the extreme of heat or cold, and 
 that as a medicine there are better substitutes.") You 
 have no reason for drinking it that is justifiable. 
 Don't touch it, dear one. It's Satan's beverage, brewed 
 to win spirits for death and hell. There are those 
 that make money their god. There are those that 
 make earthly pleasure their god. There are those 
 that neglect to obey that sweet, small voice to turn 
 from death and live. If they do not call upon Jesus, 
 
54 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 all are lost. Are you of this number, father, mother, 
 brother, sister, child? If so, forsake them. If so, for- 
 sake those gods. Turn to Jesus and live. Paul says, 
 I Cor. 15: 27: "As in Adam all die, so in Christ shall 
 all be made alive." Joel, Peter and Paul say, "Who- 
 soever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be 
 saved." Passing out and being received by an angel 
 of darkness is not all. It is only the prelude or com- 
 mencement of an eternity of woe, shut out from the 
 light of heaven, away form your dear ones that you 
 loved on earth now in heaven. Alone and in a land 
 of darkness, haunted by demons and other lost spirits, 
 the same that destroyed your soul from off your spirit 
 on earth, in fear and terror and horror, anguish in a 
 barren, dry, rocky, mountainous land, with gulches 
 deep and broad, narrow paths dark and dreary, caves 
 and cliffs, homes of spirits that lost their souls. Dear 
 one, don't go there ; don't die. Just turn to Jesus and 
 live. As you walk the streets of your city or town or 
 vicinity, look in the faces of all true Christians and 
 see if you cannot discern a brightness and clearness, 
 and glance in their eyes and you will discern a gentle, 
 lovelike look. Under all troubles and tribulations, 
 what causes it ? It is the sweet, loving spirit of Christ, 
 the ever-living fountain. Now, look in the faces of 
 those who are in pursuit of worldly joys or worldly 
 gain to the exclusion of religious joys or the de- 
 bauchee. What do you see? You see a tired, disap- 
 
Death— What It Is 55 
 
 pointed look, or a hard, cruel cast, or a disappointed, 
 sad and wretched look, sometimes blotched and bloat- 
 ed. The difference is, one is alive, the other is dead. 
 Ye are yet dead in your sins, says Paul. The face is a 
 true index of the character and soul condition, the 
 eye the window of the spirit. Now look, dear one, in 
 the looking-glass and study well your face and see 
 where you stand. The first has joys untold here on 
 earth and a mansion, and their dearest ones departed 
 waiting for them and will live with them in that land 
 of love. The second has no balm for their trouble, 
 trial and tribulations, only ever pursuing enemies. No 
 hope in eternity, only a cave or a cliff on the side of 
 a rugged, barren mountain as a home. Perchance, 
 if not so dead, a cabin where in terror, woe and an- 
 guish, not to meet the dear father, mother, child, sis- 
 ter or friend of this world. "Lost! Lost! Oh, if I 
 could be unmade, is the cry and general wail of the 
 lost spirit." Awake! Awake! Call on Christ, who 
 alone can save you; and then with joy, not shame, 
 you shall meet that dear father, mother, child, brother, 
 sister or friend, enfold them to your arms in pure joy 
 and love untold, but most of all, see Jesus face to 
 face and live. May the holy angels help you to call, 
 believe and receive and live, that if we do not meet in 
 the flesh we will clasp glad hands in that land of love. 
 Oh, that I could turn all spirits in the flesh back, back 
 from that land of darkness, from death, to our Mas- 
 
56 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 ter's kingdom, to life eternal. I bid you, dear reader, 
 a welcome, in my Master's name, to that land of light 
 and love and glory. Oh, come, pray, come and live, 
 not die. 
 
 TRUE FREEDOM. 
 
 'Tis strange indeed, though fact it be, 
 That Jesus died upon the tree, 
 From Death, to set its captives free, 
 Who, captive, cannot freedom see. 
 
 Vile sin has so enchained man's will, 
 That death and all attendant ill 
 Entice and hold him bondman still. 
 And with this world his senses fill. 
 
 E'en those who claim to love Christ's name, 
 And claim his life, and praise his fame, 
 Are mostly worldlings just the same, 
 As if through death, his kingdom came ! 
 
 'Tis flesh alive by life of God, 
 And death to life that's of the sod, 
 That takes away the scourging rod, 
 That's sinful flesh's eternal prod. 
 
 As went the Master through the grave, 
 From death his trusting friends to save. 
 He thus to them that emblem gave — 
 That death in life real death should waive ! 
 
 A death in life to flesh and sense ; 
 
 A life in flesh that's not from hence; 
 
 A spirit life that is from whence 
 
 Our Savior's death made him life's Prince. 
 
 Then come! O come! this life receive! 
 
 I pray do not yourself deceive ; 
 
 Do not the Holy Spirit grieve, 
 
 But Christ-life take, and death-life leave! 
 
 A. Phinney. 
 
SPIRIT BIRTH 
 
 John ii : 26: "Whosoever liveth and believeth in 
 me shall never die," "whosoever keepeth my word 
 shall never see death," or "Whosoever keepeth my say- 
 ings shall in no wise taste death." These are the tri- 
 une statements of Jesus. Again, "Verily, verily, I say 
 unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see 
 the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh 
 is flesh, but that which is born of the spirit is spirit." 
 Who is the party speaking? It is Jesus, the Son of 
 our heavenly Father, by birthright. He was, and ever 
 will be, Jehovah. He is addressing Nicodemus, a 
 senator of Israel and a member of the Sanhedrin, 
 the only disciple of Jesus that understood him before 
 his resurrection. How do we know this? By his ac- 
 tions and defense of our Master before Pilate. When 
 Jesus was arraigned before Pilate, charged with many 
 crimes falsely, but two they proved, first changing 
 the day of worship from the seventh to the first; sec- 
 ond, making Himself the Son of our heavenly Father. 
 Xicodemus came forward as his attorney, which was 
 according to the Roman law, and when he did the 
 Jews called out in derision, You, Nicodemus, a senator 
 
58 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 of our nation and a member of our Sanhedrin, plead- 
 ing for Jesus? He answered, Yes, I am pleading for 
 Jesus, and will cast my lot with him in this world and 
 in His kingdom which is to come. Nicodemus was a 
 Pharisee. He believed in a spirit, and angel and res- 
 urrection, and existence of a spiritual kingdom, and 
 for the sake of that kingdom, and his love of Jesus, 
 he sacrificed his earthly home. Now, we are ready 
 to consider what Jesus and Nicodemus were talking 
 about. It was a plain birth and Jesus said, That which 
 is born of the flesh is flesh, but that which is born of 
 the spirit is spirit. It is no more flesh but spirit. Our 
 Master tells us that after we are born again, we are 
 as an angel ; also that it is a heavenly knowledge 
 that he is teaching him ; He being the Son of our 
 heavenly Father knew all. Now, as Paul states, he 
 was in the third heaven, as well as Paradise. We 
 are composed of spirit, soul and body. He also states 
 if there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 
 Also the first man Adam became a living soul. The 
 second Jesus became a life-giving spirit. Tim. 1 : 10: 
 ''Christ Jesus who abolished death and brought life 
 and immortality to light through the gospel." Jesus 
 also saith to Pilate that he could call twelve legions 
 of angels. He showed where his kingdom is. In 
 passing over, first, as the worldly veil on our face 
 grows thin, and the optical nerve and pupil of our eye 
 expands, we see the dearest ones of ours that has 
 
Spirit Birth — What It Is 59 
 
 passed over. They welcome us and we know and hear 
 them. We also see an angel of the Most High in all 
 his beauty who commands us to come forth, and forth 
 we come. We look back on that body we wore on 
 earth like a chicken to the shell it left, or the cater- 
 pillar upon the cocoon when he has become a butterfly, 
 or a cast-off garment. We care no more for it than 
 we do for the old tooth we had pulled years ago, and 
 we wonder why our dear friends are crying over the 
 body, as it is not us, nor the I, and try to comfort 
 them; but they will not heed us. We now look at 
 ourselves and see we have a complete and beautiful 
 body, with robes so white and fine, also to the dear 
 living souls around us, and the angel of light, who 
 takes our hand in his, and the dear spirits of the just 
 ones made perfect surround us, and upward we drift 
 along a road so straight and beautiful, to a light we 
 see in the distance, which is the pearl gates of that 
 land of love, our Master's kingdom. On the left we 
 pass a road that leads to the land of darkness. It looks 
 a shady, beautiful place to rest in. Oh, sad is the con- 
 dition of those en route to that land of darkness in 
 custody of the angels of darkness. Sad are their 
 faces, deep and long their groans, poor, naked spirits 
 with a grayish robe over them, with faces like a con- 
 vict under the lash. As you have done to others, so 
 shall it be done to you. Call upon Jesus while you 
 can, and don't go to that woeful land. They take 
 
60 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 this road to the left, while we in the care of the glo- 
 rious angel drift onward to the land of love. It grows 
 more beautiful now as you proceed along this grand 
 highway — trees, homes, similar to earth, but more 
 beautiful. When we arrive at the portals we are 
 greeted by one; of the apostles, and angels of beauty. 
 They look so lovely, faces so perfect, large eyes so 
 filled with divine love, so kingly in their forms and 
 actions, robes so white, hands and fingers tapering 
 almost to a point, oh, so lovely and perfect; yet just 
 as gentle and kind as Jesus was. At first glance you 
 would think they were beautiful ladies, their hair 
 hanging in ringlets over their shoulders. Oh, that 
 joyous greeting as they take you by the hand. How 
 the glory flows through you. Oh, the childlike, joy- 
 ous love that fills you, and as you enter that land you 
 cast a glance back, and see the straight road you have 
 come on to that land of light and glory. The light is 
 a golden azure, no sun nor moon nor stars, lovely 
 golden light everywhere, it seems food, drink and 
 strengthens you. The air* is fragrant and invigorates 
 you. As you enter you see a land of immensity. Your 
 eyes are stronger and you can see much farther than 
 with the best telescope on earth. On the left is a park, 
 trees, such models in form, no leaf extending beyond 
 the other, all of different colors, and especially a great 
 number of shades of green. Grass like plush, with 
 small flowers of so many varieties, and shrubs, many 
 
Spirit Birth— What It Is 61 
 
 more than on earth and much more beautiful. Roses, 
 even, have no thorns. Shady walks and fountains 
 lovely to behold, where move about in all directions 
 angels and beautiful spirits clothed in robes of white, 
 like driven snow or with a yellow golden tinge, all 
 bent on the enjoyment of each other, greeting, smiling 
 pleasantly to each other and to us new comers in that 
 land of love. Whosoever believeth on Jesus shall 
 never die. Glory to his name ! Dear reader, do be- 
 lieve, live and may the Holy Spirit help you to believe, 
 that death is birth and is an occurrence in a continued 
 life. 
 
 BIRTH NOT DEATH. 
 
 Birth is not death, death is not birth, you see, 
 These two never have, never will agree; 
 Jesus died that we in heaven may be, 
 Spirit birth he gave, O ! sweet birth to thee. 
 
 This birth redeems us from our earthly clay 
 Through it we enter everlasting day, 
 Not death, birth you see, immortality; 
 Birth, O ! joy, individuality. 
 
 At birth we meet our dear ones from above 
 With them we enter everlasting love. 
 Oh, no! no! death to those who love our Lord, 
 Sweet birth ! Dearest truth ! Tell it all abroad. 
 
A SPIRITj jBORN 
 
 as seen by 
 Dr. Andrew Jackson Davis. 
 
 Who was a Prophet and One of the Greatest Clair- 
 voyants of the Age. 
 
 The philosophy of death is the philosophy of change ; 
 not of change in the constitution or personality of 
 the individual, but of change in the situation of human 
 spiritual principle, which, instead of being situated in 
 an earthly body, is placed in a spiritual organization, 
 and instead of living among the objects and person- 
 alities of the planet upon which the individual spirit 
 was born, its situation is so altered as to fit it to live 
 amidst more beautiful forms in higher societies. Be- 
 lieve not that what is called death is a final termina- 
 tion to human existence, nor that the change is so 
 thorough and entire as to alter and destroy the con- 
 stitutional peculiarities of the individual ; but believe 
 equitably that death causes as much alteration in the 
 condition of the individual as the bursting of a rose- 
 bud causes in the situation and condition of the flower. 
 Death is, therefore, only an event, only a circumstance 
 
A Spirit Born— What It Is 63 
 
 in the eternal life and experience of the human soul. 
 In other language, death is simply a birth into a new 
 and more perfect state of existence. Nature, which is 
 the only true and unchangeable revelation of the di- 
 vine kind, is replete with the most beautiful and 
 demonstrative analogies, or with universal processes 
 which perfectly correspond to the phenomena of phys- 
 ical dissolution. Everything is being incessantly born 
 again, or changed from one state of being into an- 
 other; and this change is accompanied* accomplished 
 and confirmed by traditional movements or processes 
 which mankind term death. 
 
 And this is but a door which opens into a new and 
 more perfect existence. It is a triumphal arch through 
 which man's immortal spirit passes at the moment of 
 leaving the outer world to depart to a higher, sub- 
 limer, a more magnificent country. And there is really 
 nothing more painful or repulsive in the natural pro- 
 cess of dying (that which is not induced by disease 
 or accident) than there is in passing into a quiet, 
 pleasant and dreamless slumber. The truthfulness of 
 this proposition is remarkably illustrated and con- 
 firmed by the following observations and investiga- 
 tions into the physiological and psychological phe- 
 nomena of death, which I was qualified to make upon 
 the person of a diseased individual, at the moment of 
 physical dissolution. The patient was a female about 
 sixty years of age. 
 
64 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 When the hour of her death arrived, I was fortun- 
 ately in the proper state of body and mind to induce 
 the superior condition (clairvoyant trance state). I 
 saw that the physical organization could no longer 
 subserve the requirements of the spiritual principle. 
 But the various internal organs of the body appeared 
 to resist the withdrawal of the animating soul. The 
 body and the soul, like two friends, strongly resisted 
 the various circumstances, which rendered their eter- 
 nal separation imperative and absolute. These inter- 
 nal conflicts gave rise to manifestations of what 
 seemed to be, to the material senses, the most thrill- 
 ing and painful sensations; but I was unspeakably 
 thankful and delighted when I perceived and realized 
 the fact that those physical manifestations were indi- 
 cations, not of pain or unhappiness, but that the spirit 
 was eternally dissolving its copartnership with the ma- 
 terial organization. 
 
 Now, the head of the body became suddenly envel- 
 oped in a fine, soft, mellow, luminous atmosphere; 
 and, as instantly I saw the cerebrum and the cere- 
 bellum expand to their most interior portions ; I saw 
 them discontinue their appropriate galvanic functions; 
 and then I saw that they became highly charged with 
 vital electricity, and vital magnetism that permeates 
 subordinate systems and structures. That is to say, 
 the brain as a whole suddenly declared itself to be 
 tenfold more positive over the lesser portions of the 
 
A Spirit Born— What It Is 65 
 
 body than it ever was during the period of health. 
 This phenomena invariably precedes physical dissolu- 
 tion. Now, the process of dying, or of the spirit's 
 departure from the body, was fully commenced. The 
 brain began to attract the elements of electricity, of 
 magnetism, of motion, of life and of sensation, into its 
 various and numerous departments. The head became 
 intensely brilliant; and I particularly remarked that 
 just in the same proportion as the extremities of the 
 organization grew dark and cold, the brain appeared 
 light and glowing. 
 
 Now, I saw in the mellow, spiritual atmosphere, 
 which emanated from, and encircled her head, the in- 
 distinct outlines of the formation of another head. 
 This new head unfolded more and more distinctly; 
 and so indescribably compact and intensely brilliant 
 did it become, that I could neither see through it nor 
 gaze upon it steadily as I desired. While this spiritual 
 head was being eliminated and organized out of and 
 above the material head, I saw that the surrounding 
 aromal atmosphere which had emanated from the ma- 
 terial head was in great commotion; but as the new 
 head became more distinct and perfect, this brilliant 
 atmosphere gradually disappeared. 
 
 In the identical manner in which the spiritual head 
 was eliminated and unchangeably organized, I saw, 
 unfolding in their natural progressive order, the har- 
 monious development of the neck, the shoulders, the 
 
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66 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 breast and the entire spiritual organization. The de- 
 fects and deformities of her physical body were in the 
 spiritual body which I saw thus developed, almost 
 completely removed. 
 
 While this spiritual formation was going on, which 
 was perfectly visible to my spiritual perception, the 
 material body manifested to the outward vision of the 
 observing individual in the room many symptoms of 
 uneasiness and pain, but these indications were totally 
 deceptive. They were wholly caused by the departure 
 of the vital or spiritual forces from the extremities 
 and viscera into the brain, and thence into the ascend- 
 ing organism. The spirit rose at right angles over the 
 head of the brain of the deserted body, but immedi- 
 ately previous to the final dissolution of the relation- 
 ship, which had for so many years subsisted between 
 the two, the spiritual and the material bodies, I saw 
 playing energetically between the feet of the elevated 
 spiritual body and the head of the prostrate physical 
 body, a bright stream or current of vital electricity. 
 This taught me what is customarily called death is but 
 the birth of a spirit, from a lower into a higher state ; 
 that an inferior body and mode of existence are ex- 
 changed for a superior body and corresponding en- 
 dowments, and capabilities of happiness. I learned 
 that the correspondence between the birth of a child 
 into this world, and the birth of the spirit from the 
 material body into a higher world is absolute and 
 
A Spirit Born— What It Is 67 
 
 complete, even to the umbilical cord, which was rep- 
 resented by the thread of vital electricity, which for a 
 few minutes subsisted between and connected the two 
 organisms together. And here I perceived, what I had 
 never before obtained a knowledge of, that a small 
 portion of this vital electric element returned to the 
 deserted body, immediately subsequent to the sepa- 
 ration of the umbilical thread; and that portion of 
 element which passed back into the earthly organism 
 instantly diffused itself throughout the entire struc- 
 ture, and thus prevented immediate decomposition. 
 I saw her continue to conform and accustom herself 
 to the new elements and elevating sensations which 
 belong to the inner life. I did not particularly notice 
 the workings and emotions of her newly awakened 
 and fast-unfolding 'spirit ; except that I was careful 
 to remark her philosophic tranquillity throughout the 
 entire process and her non-participation with the dif- 
 ferent members of her family in their unrestrained be- 
 wailing of her departure from the earth. 
 
 Could you but turn your natural gaze from the life- 
 less body, which can no longer respond to your look 
 of love, and could your spiritual eyes be opened, you 
 would behold standing in your midst a form, the same, 
 but more beautiful and loving. 
 
 The period required to accomplish this entire 
 change which I saw, was not far from two hours and 
 a half; but this furnishes no rule as to the time re- 
 
68 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 quired for every spirit to elevate and reorganize itself 
 above the head of the outward form. 
 
 Without changing my position or spiritual percep- 
 tions, I continued to observe the movements of her 
 new-born spirit. As soon as she became accustomed 
 to the new elements which surrounded her, she de- 
 scended from her elevated position, which was imme- 
 diately over the body, by an effort of the will power, 
 and directly passed out of the door of the bedroom, 
 in which she had lain (in the material form) pros- 
 trated with disease for several weeks. It being in the 
 summer months, the doors were all open, and her 
 egress from the house was attended with no obstruc- 
 tions. I saw her pass through an adjoining room, out 
 of the door, and step from the house into the atmos- 
 phere ! I was overwhelmed with* delight and aston- 
 ishment when, for the first time, I realized the uni- 
 versal truth that the spiritual organization can tread 
 the atmosphere, which, while in the coarse, earthly 
 form we breathe so much more refined in man's spir- 
 itual constitution. She walked on the atmosphere as 
 easily, and in the same manner, as we tread the earth, 
 and ascended an eminence. 
 
 Immediately upon her emergement from the house, 
 she was joined by two friendly spirits from the spir- 
 itual country, and after tenderly recognizing and com- 
 muning with each other, the three in the most grace- 
 ful manner began ascending obliquely through the 
 
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 ethereal envelopments of our globe. They walked so 
 naturally and so fraternally together that I could 
 scarcely realize the fact that they trod the air. They 
 seemed to be walking upon the side of a glorious but 
 familiar mountain. I continued to gaze upon them un- 
 til the distance shut them from my view; whereupon 
 I returned to my external and ordinary condition. 
 
 NEW BIRTH. 
 
 A life ! We marvel at the thought 
 As something 'twere from nothing brought, 
 A germ caught from ethereal plan, 
 Twirled round and made a spirit-man. 
 
 How strange that we, our outer shell 
 By sin made fit to people hell, 
 Should deemed be the only state 
 In which a God could life create. 
 
 While eternal space is peopled o'er 
 With spirits full of life and power, 
 That travel as a ray of light; 
 Not needing rest, they have no night. 
 
 And yet the ego of the man 
 Scans o'er the great eternal plan, 
 And in his mightiness proclaims 
 His wisdom compasses God's aims. 
 
 To spirits God gives greater powers 
 Than in this physic state of ours ; 
 And God by Christ unfolds a plan 
 Through grace to mould a spirit-man. 
 
 Then marvel not, ye mouldering clay, 
 Vain, boastful creatures of a day, 
 
70 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 And claims with joy the promise giv'n 
 That comes from God and points to heav'n. 
 
 God spake — behold a peopled world — 
 He speaks — believe — a life he'll mould; 
 Through faith the quickening will come, 
 New life is born — heaven its home. 
 
 A. Phinney. 
 
IN THE SPIRIT 
 
 First, Rev. 1 : 10 : "I was in the spirit on the Lord's 
 day and heard behind me a great voice as of a trum- 
 pet, saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the 
 last" ; ch. 4 : i : "After that I looked, and behold a 
 door was open in heaven, and the first voice as of a 
 trumpet, talking with me said, Come up hither and I 
 will show thee things which must come hereafter, and 
 immediately I was in the spirit. And when he had 
 opened the fifth seal I saw under the throne the souls 
 of them that were slain for the word of God, and white 
 robes were given unto every one of them"; Rev. 21 : 
 10: "He carried me away in the spirit to a great high 
 mountain and showed me that great city, the Holy Je- 
 rusalem." John's body lay on the Isle of Patmos while 
 his spirit clothed with soul stood in the seventh sphere 
 and saw just what he tells us he saw, even the multi- 
 tudes around our Father's throne. Definition of the 
 Holy Spirit in its triune form. Ray divine from our 
 Father and Master. Second, angel hosts. Third, 
 spirits of just ones made perfect, when the Father 
 and Master so wills. Are they not all ministering 
 spirits sent forth to do service to those who inherit 
 eternal life? 
 
72 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 We find in the Scriptures three terms used to de- 
 scribe the different effects of our Father or the Holy 
 Spirit upon our spirit. First, the spirit in us. Sec- 
 ond, the spirit upon us. Third, being in the spirit. 
 The spirit within us is when we feel a joyous sensa- 
 tion pass through us, either in reading a spiritual arti- 
 cle or hearing a spiritual man speak, or sing a spirit- 
 ual song, or think a kind thought, or do a good act. 
 Some of our brothers and sisters acknowledge it by 
 shouting, Glory. This is the spirit in us. Second, 
 spirit upon me; there is a joy passes through us 
 much stronger than the first; in fact, we become 
 dazed as to our earthly surroundings. We either hear 
 a voice speaking to us, or see a picture, sometimes 
 both. We are not a j5art of it, but just look at it, and 
 we are filled with glory, understand it ; it is gen- 
 erally relating to some future occurrence which is to 
 come. This is called a vision. Third, being in the 
 spirit is a separation, temporarily of our inward body 
 or living soul from the outward body, as Ezekiel, Isa- 
 iah, Paul and John, Dante, Milton, Mrs. Rebecca 
 Springer, Swedenborg and many others. You see 
 yourself drift through space, see others in the flesh, 
 and spirits both naked and clothed upon, lost or saved, 
 living souls. The land of darkness as well as the land 
 of light, do feel and understand, yea, comprehend 
 things of the past and the future, see angels and talk 
 with them, and when they take you by the hand feel 
 
In the Spirit— What It Is 73 
 
 them, see them, hear them and understand them, as 
 well as all things wherever you are. I for one am seen 
 and recognized by those in the flesh. They hear me, 
 see me, understand what I say to them as I know what 
 I am saying, and have done after I return to my body. 
 I have no control of myself. The Master just sends 
 me. In this state you are to a great extent the same 
 individual you will be after your spiritual birth (by 
 some called death), and know and understand all 
 things much better and clearer than in the flesh. The 
 spirit is our true ego, eternal, immortal. The soul 
 is just the body of the spirit, and is accumulated by 
 the food you feed your spirit, is composed of mole- 
 cule, particles and atoms from the ethereal sphere 
 above, and is not of this earth or the inner spheres of 
 this earth. The land of darkness, Satan's central king- 
 dom. Spirit, the eternal principle, soul, a principle 
 that can be destroyed, therefore secondary and sub- 
 ject thereto. (Parenthesis denote explanation of 
 copyists or quotation of another, not the original 
 writer.) This is exactly what Paul says, II Cor. 5: 
 6, 8: 'Therefore we are always confident, knowing 
 that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are ab- 
 sent from the Lord: We are confident, I say, and 
 willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be 
 present with the Lord," but whether absent from the 
 body or present in the body, we aim to be well pleas- 
 ing unto him, Paul talks as though he had been ab- 
 
74 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 sent from his body. What think you ? Again, II Cor. 
 12: 24: "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years 
 ago. . . . Such a one was caught up to the third 
 heaven. And I knew such a man how that he was 
 caught up into paradise." He is speaking of when he 
 was stoned and cast out of the city of Lystra for dead. 
 This is synonomous and means the same as being in 
 the spirit, was experienced by the prophets, by Jesus, 
 the apostles John and Paul, by a number of the early 
 fathers, by Dante, Milton and thousands of others. 
 But many will say, This all ended when Jesus arose. 
 But how about Paul and John? I say our heavenly 
 Father is just the same Jehovah, unchangeable. Jesus 
 is just the same Lord and Savior, Son of our dear 
 heavenly Father by birthright, and will be with us 
 unto the end of the world, and ever after to those who 
 love him. The Holy Spirit, dear angels and spirits 
 of dear ones made perfect, doing service to those 
 that shall inherit salvation, and I would say to 
 the materialist professor of religion, get closer 
 to Jesus and work, and be more spiritual. Ma- 
 terialism produces what? Skepticism; and skep- 
 ticism infidelity. Be like Paul if you only lived as 
 Paul, not for himself, but for Christ our dear Lord 
 and heavenly Father and Holy Spirit. And Jesus 
 says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth 
 on me the works that I do shall be so also, and greater 
 works than these shall he do because I go unto my 
 
In the Spirit — What It Is 75 
 
 Father." Don't you think we had better believe him? 
 Have we not drifted from our Father, Master and the 
 Holy Spirit ? Yes, we have ; not them from us. 
 
 How I know that I was in the spirit, or absent 
 from the body: 
 
 In my first experience, in 1869, 25th of August, 
 although the doctor decided that I was dead, and I 
 fully realized that I was absent from the body, saw 
 the beautiful river, even advanced into it ankle deep, 
 heard my wife's voice, saw her distinctly, and the 
 beauties and glories of the other shore, yet I thought 
 it was a vision. Others tried to convince me and 
 nearly did that it was a beautiful dream ; but in my 
 second experience, on August 25, 1899, I saw my 
 true self, my living soul, that is my spirit as I believe 
 there must have been, and was some soul left in my 
 earthly shell or carnal body to keep the spark of life 
 in it, as it is the soul that drives the blood through 
 the veins. I know my spirit, the true ego, myself 
 eternal, was absent from the carnal body, and I fully 
 recognized myself, not only in the land of darkness, 
 but when on that straight road to the land of light, 
 even when I first saw that glorious light, but still 
 more clearly when talking with the angels in the 
 anteroom of that glorious portal ; then again when 
 the angel took me by the hand and we drifted down 
 to the beautiful street, and walked up it. And again, 
 when I met my wife in front of that lovely and grand 
 
76 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 mansion, enfolded her to my bosom, kissed her and 
 felt her form, especially her shoulder blade in the 
 palm of my right hand through those robes so fine, 
 like silk or satin lawn. I looked at my raiment and 
 saw the spots on it, and again when my Father said, 
 "My son here with soiled raiments" ; but I was still 
 more fully convinced when I, through grace, left my 
 body and appeared to Charles C. Rush, in Dunellon, 
 Florida, on Thanksgiving night, 1899. I not only saw 
 him, and his surroundings, but talked to him and he 
 saw me, heard me and knew me to be in the spirit. 
 I have also appeared to others at different times and 
 places as the Master has sent me. I have no control 
 of myself, and as Paul said, I would rather be absent 
 from the body than to be in it, as I am so much more 
 beautiful, and have a capacity of seeing and under- 
 standing things so much better and can walk and drift 
 with such glorious speed, and see the glorious eternal 
 things, and am filled with such a pure, divine love. 
 O! it is just glorious, and I long to complete my du- 
 ties here below and join that beautiful, eternal throng 
 with dear re-born loves in that land of love; espe- 
 cially to see and be with my Savior who loved and 
 loves me, an unprofitable servant. 
 
In the Spirit— What It Is 77 
 
 JESUS AND WORK. 
 
 Come closer to Jesus and work; 
 
 With pure, sweet love overflowing. 
 And no, no, never a duty shirk, 
 
 O! keep spiritually growing. 
 
 Chorus — 
 
 Come now, O ! come now, yes, just now, 
 Come closer to Jesus and work. 
 
 Then you can see angels untold; 
 And your reborn loves behold ; 
 Then mysteries of heaven unfold, 
 Then glorify Jesus and work. 
 
 Chorus — 
 
 Come now, O! come now, yes, just now, 
 And glorify Jesus and work. 
 
ANGELS 
 
 As some claim that we become angels, others deny 
 that angels have anything to do with us in the present 
 age. Angels are sons by creation of our dear heavenly 
 Father. They are spirits sent forth to do service to 
 those that love him. Our Father is a spirit; so are 
 the cherubims and seraphims. There are different 
 grades of spirits and angels. An angel is just perfect 
 in form and grace. Not one blemish. Fingers of the 
 hand just taper to nearly a point. Eyes large, over- 
 flowing with love. Hair hangs in ringlets over their 
 lovely shoulders. Robes, oh, so white. Forms kingly. 
 Their motions perfect. The spirit of the just one made 
 perfect has the same features it had here below. 
 There have been and are billions of faces, no two 
 alike. There is always some little blemish, and when 
 glorified' it is beautified. Yes, we will know our dear 
 loved ones full and well, not only close by us, but a 
 long way off in that land of love. We are never more 
 than living souls, or spirits of just ones made per- 
 fect. First, Michael, the great archangel, at the left 
 hand of our Father, is the officer of execution. He 
 has never varied from the duties our dear Father 
 
Angels— What They Are 79 
 
 assigned him. He has ever and will be commander 
 of the multitudes of hosts of angels, subject to the 
 command of our dear Father and Savior. An angel 
 of light on earth or in heaven represents him just as 
 a soldier of the United States army represents the 
 commander, and therefore is one of the Holy Spirit 
 in its triune form. They appeared to Abraham, Jacob, 
 Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel and Elijah, cared for and at- 
 tended Jesus, Peter, Paul and John, Constantine, 
 Dante, Milton and many of our dear departed ones. 
 Yes, they care and attend upon you and me. That 
 sweet, small voice which guides us to all truth is not 
 what some call conscience, but an angel of light. Some 
 of us, I fear, are attended by an angel of darkness 
 as much or more than we are by an angel of light. 
 This is the reason that is called conscience is often 
 misleading. Is it not singular a good man that tries 
 to da good has a good conscience, while an evil man 
 has an evil conscience? Just pray to our heavenly 
 Father and Master, and ask to be guided by the 
 powers unseen, and you will improve. In fact, the 
 angel of the Lord comes close to you. You hear him 
 clearer and obey him more, and at the birth of your 
 spirit he takes you by the hand and drifts to that land 
 of love. There is not a house of worship on earth, 
 where our dear Father and Master is worshiped, but 
 what the angels congregate there, and go forth from 
 there to their missions of mercy to us poor mortals 
 
80 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 here below. There is not a saloon or dive on earth, 
 that the angels of Satan do not gather and go forth 
 on their missions of destruction. What we feel in 
 our Father's house so pleasant and joyous is their 
 presence. In fact, we never enter a place of worship 
 but what they are there and to bless us, if we only 
 call on Jesus, their chief commander. In fact I know 
 this, as I have visited all denominations, Protestants, 
 Catholics and the Synagogue during the last three 
 years, and have seen them in nearly every place of wor- 
 ship, mostly around the minister, rabbi or priest and 
 choir. The lighter and brighter the house of worship 
 is the more distinct and clear can they be seen. They 
 often disappear when passing by a dark object or 
 while passing over a dark space. John knew what 
 he was talking about when he called them spirits of 
 light and not of darkness. I know it would be more 
 pleasant for our visitors from that glory land, if we 
 would have all our churches white and bright inside, 
 instead of dark colors. The house of our Father 
 is indeed the Holy of Holies, and nothing but pure 
 prayers, pure praise, pure thoughts and acts should 
 enter there. I would do away with collections in 
 the main body of the church. Just put the boxes as 
 our fathers did it in the anteroom and let an officer 
 of the church overlook the free offerings. We should 
 not worship angels, only love them as the messengers 
 
Angels — What They Are 81 
 
 of love of our dear Father and Master. Worship 
 nothing but the Holy Trinity. 
 
 ANGELS OF LIGHT. 
 
 Angels of light are glorious and bright 
 Sons of creation by our Father of light, 
 Lovely they walk and drift with great speed and 
 
 might, 
 And fill you with glory ! So perfect their face, 
 Large eyes overflowing with love and grace ; 
 Their long hair hangs in long curls like lovely silk, 
 O ! They are beautiful and perfectly built. 
 
 Robes, lovely white, silk crepe like satin lawn, 
 
 Their movements are majestic, their arms are strong, 
 
 By their gentle and loving kindness you know 
 
 That they to our great Commander, Jesus, go. 
 
 They loved Abraham and Joseph, left Saul, 
 
 Jesus our dear Savior they love more than all, 
 
 O ! hear them, obey them when upon you they call. 
 
 Waited on Peter, waited on John and Paul, 
 
 They visit you; they visit me, they visit all, 
 
 Especially those who on Jesus really call. 
 
 Then call unto him, our King, and you shall have 
 
 A dear lovely angel close by you to save, 
 
 And gently tell you when you are wrong or right ; 
 
 Some call it conscience, it's an angel of light. 
 
 They gather in our churches, both great and small, 
 From there go on their missions of love to all, 
 Whenever you enter our dear Father's house, 
 Just remember they are there, a perfect host. 
 Love them ever you should, with a love so true ; 
 Never worship, that to the Trinity is due. 
 O ! hear them, obey them, they really love you ! 
 
82 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 O! praise our Father for the comforters here, 
 They are gathering us now for that last great day ; 
 Then turn to Jesus our King while yet you may, 
 Make sure of him, he will ever be true to you, 
 And gather, you on his right in that review, 
 If you would live with them and our Savior dear, 
 Hear and obey, their sweet, still, small voice so clear. 
 
THE LAND OF DARKNESS 
 
 That it exists I know. That it is in this world in 
 different spheres of intensity as you advance into it 
 I am assured. I have not been so far in that land 
 as Dante, and others, but as far as I was sent can 
 say that he and others speak the truth regarding it. 
 As I do not remember when in the spirit the route 
 I went over until I was there, but have a distinct 
 knowledge of the route I came over when I came 
 into that straight, narrow, when compared with its 
 length, and beautiful highway, that leads from this 
 world of ours to our dear Master's kingdom. In 
 entering that land of darkness you are first impressed 
 with the light, if light it is, a light overshadowed with 
 darkness, about as light as a quarter moon overshad- 
 owed with a cloud. But for all that you can see 
 quite a distance and see things distinctly. Also the 
 barrenness of it, not even a blade of grass, soil a 
 dingy brownish hue, exceedingly rocky. But most of 
 all, what impresses you is a fear, indescribable and 
 intense, a feeling that you are lost, and that some- 
 thing is hunting you to injure you. Job says, "Before 
 I go whence I shall not return, to the land of dark- 
 
84 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 ness and shadow of death, a land of darkness as dark- 
 ness itself and shadow of darkness without any order, 
 and where the light is darkness, outer darkness." Je- 
 sus says they shall be cast into outer darkness. The 
 paths, I may call them, look like roads, but narrow 
 and bending continually, with occasionally a hovel, 
 wretched in appearance. Some with pickets set close 
 around them, extending above the eaves of the hovels. 
 No windows, doors barred. You even fear to ap- 
 proach them. 
 
 I have been sent to that land twice. The last time 
 went farther into it, consequently saw more of it. 
 Would say that it is an immense land of sorrow, fear 
 and destruction. You soon begin to see lost spirits 
 and demons. The demons hunt you in your defense- 
 less state, and it seems to give them pleasure, if such 
 a thing exists in that terrible land. They are armed, 
 while you are not, with javelins, spears and knives. 
 Your appeals of mercy are never regarded. At least, 
 so I observed it in their treatment of others. I ran 
 into a hovel to hide. It has three rooms. First, 
 twelve by sixteen ; nothing in it ; it looked as though 
 it had just been vacated. Two rooms to the right, 
 about eight by ten, had a bench in it. Third room 
 had nothing in it, and all the hovel looks very dirty 
 and filthy. As I started from the door of the third 
 room, intending to leave the hovel, having found no 
 place to hide, a creature came in at the only opening, 
 
Land of Darkness — What It Is 85 
 
 preventing my escape. It had the form of a man, 
 but oh, how hideous. The face was blotched and de- 
 montic, the eyes piercing and fierce. Was clothed in 
 a dark, grayish raiment, armed with a weapon like 
 a javelin, about six feet long. He started towards 
 me in the first and second position of charge bayonet. 
 I just stood trembling with fear and terror, when 
 something unseen by me placed within my left hand 
 what seemed to be a guard. At this the fear left me. 
 I became cool and calm and awaited his assault. He 
 thrust towards me. I parried in quarte and then I be- 
 held that I had a beautiful sword of fire in my left 
 hand. I thrust in tierce and pierced his left side. He 
 fell. He was about five feet,^ix, high, broad and mas- 
 sive, of a grayish color, slimy and disgusting. After 
 examining him I stepped over his body and left the 
 hovel. 
 
 x\fter passing farther into that dreadful land, it 
 becomes more barren, if such can be, more rugged, 
 higher mountains, narrow valleys, where you see the 
 poor, lost spirits clad scantily in dark grayish robes, 
 faces like convicts under the lash, forms like skele- 
 tons' bodies, but they have an ashy color, they lack 
 soul, singly or in groups of ten to twenty. Every 
 spirit and creature is against every other, and the 
 more cruel they can be and act towards each other 
 and all comers — in fact, cruelty, deception, hatred, 
 malice and murder, if such could be, seem to be the 
 
86 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 prevailing disposition of all, and oh, how depraved. 
 High and rugged walls of rocks, narrow paths, shelv- 
 ing cliffs, and caves in the rocks their homes, if they 
 have any, where they lay and moan in anguish and 
 despair, regretting their past lives on this earth, 
 knowing now what they have lost, attacking each 
 other and injuring others continually. Oh, how they 
 court death, which will never come. I saw no water 
 in that desert of deserts, and their cries, screams and 
 oaths, oh, how terrible. This is the land and home 
 that Satan and his powers would have you spend an 
 eternity in. Will you go there, dear brother, sister, 
 child ? Oh, pray, don't go ; and as heat increases as 
 you descend into the bowels of the earth, so do I be- 
 lieve suffering, anguish and horrors are increased as 
 you enter farther into that woeful land. 
 
 THE HOME OF THE LOST. 
 
 There is a land of dreary, dreary darkness. 
 
 Without sunshine of day or blackness of night ; 
 
 Overhanging with clouds that infuses a shudder, 
 And bedims those things so real in our sight. 
 
 Barren desert of all deserts, so woeful and dreary, 
 High rocks, rugged chasms, so deep and so bold. 
 
 Narrow paths and high mountains that make us 
 grow weary, 
 Caves, cliffs, homes of spirits, who lost their souls. 
 
 They see themselves like all spirits do, 
 Each other they dread, and in all things they doubt; 
 Their robes are all stained when brought into view; 
 And like skeletons in fear they wander about. 
 
Land of Darkness — What It Is 87 
 
 Here dwell all sad spirits shut out from the light, 
 They scramble in fear with terror untold; 
 
 From dark demons, who hunt them, pursue with their 
 might, 
 The same that on earth had destroyed their souls. 
 
 No dear one to cheer them nor their burden to bear, 
 
 So dirty, so filthy, and dreary to see, 
 A hovel on earth is a mansion to this ; 
 
 Would you have such a home for you and for me? 
 
 There is no place to hide, there's none to protect, 
 
 Why live in sin and shame so long; 
 When Jesus would save us if now we accept, 
 
 And put in our mouth the heavenly song? 
 
 Escape this wretched misery, the life of real despair, 
 And come to Jesus who alone can set you free ; 
 
 He is our only refuge, the crown is in his hands, 
 And the angels wait to welcome you and me. 
 
LAND OF LOVE 
 
 OUR HOMES AND OUR DEAR ONES. 
 
 Job says, "I know that my Redeemer liveth, and 
 after my body is destroyed, that without the flesh 
 shall I see God. I shall see him for myself and not 
 for another. Mine eyes shall behold him." He knew 
 that his Redeemer lived. Do you ? He knew that 
 he would live in the presence of our dear heavenly 
 Father. Do you? Grand old man of ancient days. 
 But remember, he saw affliction. So must you. He 
 bore it sublimely. So should you. Moses and Elijah 
 went to that land and returned to this earth and stood 
 by Jesus on the mount, were seen, known and heard 
 to talk by John, Peter and James — three witnesses. 
 Jesus was showing in his divine way just what I in 
 my weak way have been trying to show you. What 
 makes the citizens of that land of glory, our Master's 
 kingdom? Living souls! just such bodies are in our 
 earthly tabernacles. Aaron was gathered to his peo- 
 ple, so was Moses. Glorious must have been the de- 
 parture of that great high priest on Mt. Horan, as 
 he closed his eyes on Moses his brother, Eleazar, his 
 son, and opened them to meet and greet those dear 
 
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 ones gone on before, 'his people in that land of our 
 Father, of which the land of Canaan was the type. 
 
 Again, Moses on Pizgah, as Aaron, was gathered 
 to his people, so was he just on the verge of the land 
 of promise. He enters Paradise, next he is seen 
 standing on Mt. Tabor with Elisha and Jesus, Lord 
 of lords, but a living soul or spirit of a just one made 
 perfect. 
 
 David said in mourning for Absalom, "I shall go 
 unto him." He knew his son lived and that he would 
 live and meet him in heaven. Do you? Isaiah tells 
 you of that land in the sixth chapter and nineteenth 
 verse. After giving us a description of the bright 
 light and glory, also that no mourning shall be there, 
 then so that you cannot be mistaken says, the people 
 shall be all righteous. They shall inherit the land 
 forever. Again, in the thirtieth chapter, their eyes 
 shall see the king in his glory; also that we will all 
 understand each other, our language shall be the 
 same. Look upon Zion, the city of our salvation, a 
 tabernacle that shall never be removed, a place of 
 broad rivers and trees, a far-stretched land. A place 
 where there is no sickness. The people that dwell 
 therein shall be forgiven their iniquity, and the Lord 
 shall be our King. He will save us. Sixty-fifth chap- 
 ter, "For behold I create a new heaven and a new 
 earth. The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, 
 and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock. The 
 
90 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 wolf and the lion shall lie with the kid and the lamb. 
 The leopard shall lie down with the kid. The calf, 
 the young lion and the fatling together and a little 
 child shall lead them." Ezek. 37: "And I shall put 
 my spirit in you and ye shall live, I will place you in 
 your own land, and ye shall know that I am the Lord, 
 when I open your graves, oh, my people, and brought 
 you out of your graves." This occurred when Jesus 
 arose, and many spirits of the ancients were seen, and 
 Pilate says, in his letter to Tiberius Caesar, "that I 
 myself saw many." And they shall dwell in the land 
 forever. I shall be their God and they shall be my 
 people. Again, when Ezekiel was in the spirit, he 
 gives us a description of one of the rivers in that 
 land. "By the river and upon the banks thereof, on 
 this side and on that side, shall grow all the trees 
 for meat whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the 
 fruit be consumed, ever growing, always abundant." 
 Joel, second chapter: "I will show wonders in the 
 heavens above, and whosoever calleth on the name 
 of the Lord shall be saved." 
 
 Now salvation is not all ; it is only a ticket through 
 the portal. The thief from the cross passed that por- 
 tal, so may you; but as by fire. If you leave off be- 
 coming a follower of the Master until just passing 
 over, you are but a naked spirit in that land of 
 love, no soul to speak of, no body, only a tramp in a 
 land of glory, and it will take you ages to accomplish 
 
Land of Love — What It Is 91 
 
 what you could if you only would do your duty while 
 here below, and do His will as near as you can. All 
 sin shall be forgiven unto man except sin against 
 the Holy Ghost. The sweet, small voice. Millions 
 that have been like the thief on the cross. He only 
 asked and was saved. 
 
 Most of our human family, if never before, just 
 in passing out cry, "Jesus, De merciful to me a sinner/' 
 I care not what crime he had committed, he or she 
 is saved; but oh, such poor, sick, almost naked spirits. 
 I do not recommend calling at the last moment, but 
 it is much better than to go to the land of darkness, 
 although it is cowardly and risky, for who knows 
 that an opportunity will be given to call. So, dear 
 one, call while you can; and the more you serve 
 our Master here, the better will be your condition in 
 that land, and then go sweeping through the portal 
 attended by the angels, and greeted in love by the 
 dear ones, a spirit of a just one made perfect. 
 
 John the Baptist came preaching, The kingdom of 
 heaven is at hand; Jesus that, The kingdom of God 
 is nigh unto you. Jesus again says, "It is indeed 
 nigh unto you." Yes, it is indeed; just close by, en- 
 folding this gross world of ours so close that Stephen 
 saw our Master on the right hand of our heavenly 
 Father. Stonewall Jackson saw it when he said, "Let 
 us cross the river and rest in the shade of the trees." 
 So close that our dear ones in passing out see it. 
 
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 Paul tells us that he was in the third heaven and 
 paradise. John was in the seventh heaven or sphere 
 and saw the Holy City and gives us a description of 
 it. Revelation, 21st chapter, also describes the river. 
 Jesus said, "In my Father's house are many man- 
 sions. If it were not so I would have told you. I go 
 to prepare a place for you; and if I go I will come 
 again and receive you to myself, that where I am, 
 there ye may be, also." Paul tells us in the twelfth 
 chapter of Hebrews, 22, 23 : "But ye are come into 
 mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the 
 heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable host of 
 angels, to the general assembly and church of the 
 firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the 
 Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made per- 
 fect." This is what I am trying to convince you of. 
 I can use no language as forcible as his. Oh, do be- 
 lieve him, and in Jesus the mediator of the new cov- 
 enant. Paul tells us again that if the earthly house 
 of our tabernacle be dissolved we have a building of 
 God, not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 
 Jesus as the Son of our dear heavenly Father by 
 birthright, and Paul our apostle, knew. Dante, 
 through grace, saw some of the beauties of that land ; 
 so did Milton, Swedenborg, Miss Rebecca Springer 
 and thousands of others. It is, as Isaiah says, a far- 
 stretched land with rivers wide and long. Oh, the 
 sweet purity of pure love in that blessed land of love — 
 
Land of Love — What It Is 93 
 
 home. An immense land. This world is as but a grain 
 of sand on the seashore compared to it. Oh, the sweet 
 purity of pure love in that blessed land. All space is 
 full of life. There is no vacuum in the universe. 
 
 Yes, the wonders of heaven have been shown ; but 
 the world at large will not believe it any more than 
 the ancients did the prophets, nor the Jews Jesus. 
 Only a few, when compared to the great mass of the 
 people ; but if we can only help the few and be the 
 means through grace of saving a few more from that 
 land of darkness to the land of light, and higher sta- 
 tions in that life, we are fully repaid, not here, but 
 in eternity. 
 
 When you consider the billions of living souls that 
 have gone over, and remember that no two objects 
 of the same nature can occupy the same space at the 
 same time, you can form some idea of the immensity 
 of that land. By what I have read of other witnesses 
 that have been to that land of love, and my own ex- 
 periences, I should say that each nationality has its 
 own country. I know that each family has its own 
 circle. Our fathers will be our fathers, our dear 
 mothers our own mothers, our dear ones, husbands 
 and wives, our own, our children our very own fam- 
 ily circles, eternal in the heavens, with such pure 
 love more intensified and glorified. There are many 
 cities, but Jerusalem is the capital. Many towns and 
 communities. Each one is situated in just the con- 
 
94 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 dition that best suits his taste for happiness and serv- 
 ice to our King, all things being equal. 
 
 John tells us that Jerusalem is fifteen hundred miles 
 wide, broad and high. I know it is true by what I 
 have seen myself. Mansions so high that you could 
 not see the tops, and in the spirit you see with your 
 spiritual eyes much farther and clearer than you can 
 with a telescope here on earth; and don't you know 
 that an angel or a spirit of a just one made perfect, 
 can lay, rest or float and drift at will through space? 
 Height, depth, distance is nothing to them. Their 
 flight is equal to the speed of light, and it is just as 
 easy for them or you when in the spirit to raise and 
 enter a balcony fifteen hundred miles high or drift 
 down fifteen hundred miles ! Yea, much easier than 
 when you in the flesh have to step up one or two steps 
 to enter an earthly house. . Some mansions are im- 
 mense, away beyond what we can conceive from a 
 worldly point of view. All things are equal. Man- 
 sions four hundred feet broad and four hundred feet 
 high are very common, each one built of some one 
 precious gem, while many are much larger. Others 
 are like immense suburban residences, only larger and 
 more beautiful, surrounded with beautiful groves, 
 walks, fountains and flowers, all distinctly arranged 
 with various styles of architecture, built of different 
 gems, therefore different colors. Looking along the 
 fronts of the larger mansions you can see a halo of 
 
Land of Love — What It Is 95 
 
 all colors of the rainbow, only ten thousand times 
 more beautiful. I noticed there were no windows 
 nor doors where I was, just golden and bronze col- 
 ored damasks in various colored portieres, in many in- 
 stances thrown back like curtains in the windows of 
 our best houses here below. Our dear ones gone on 
 before that we have not already met meet us here. 
 Trees in that land are of different colors and some 
 bear different kinds of fruit, many of the kinds not 
 known here. All are perfect in shape and of differ- 
 ent shades and colors, not one leaf extending beyond 
 another, no dead leaves nor twigs, grass like plush 
 of the brightest green, flowers, oh, so many; some 
 like we have here on earth, and thousands of others 
 more beautiful. Shrubbery of all kinds, most beau- 
 tiful. I noticed that the rose there had no thorns, 
 and so many different varieties. Fountains and lovely 
 walks everywhere. Streets and roads broad and beau- 
 tiful ; trees on the side and center ; bridges . of pure 
 gold, lovely to behold. Angels, spirits of just ones 
 made perfect, all moving here and there, greeting 
 each other in love continually, even strangers as we 
 call them here, none there; all know and we are 
 known. 
 
 I should say the occupations of that land are nu- 
 merous, but mostly along the line as our Savior did 
 while on earth, administering to each other in love 
 to their advancement; also to assist and educate and 
 
96 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 bring up to the standard of our family circle the weak 
 ones of our kin, the black sheep of the flock who had 
 called upon the Lord, so that which gives us great 
 trouble and sorrow here brings us great joy in that 
 other land, to which I hope and pray all the readers 
 of this volume will attain. There are also woods 
 and plains, lakes and rivers, bowers of rest and coun- 
 try homes, just elegant in arrangement. 
 
 Oh, that land of love, how I long for it while I 
 write of it; mountains with gentle slopes, hills and 
 valleys similar to this world of ours; but grander 
 and more beautiful, lovely, ever-blooming; the rivers 
 are clear like molten silver, calm and oh, how lovely 
 to bathe in. Flowers even in the water, and you have 
 no fear in the water as you have here. Just as much 
 at home in it, and more so, than you are in the air on 
 earth on a pretty spring morning. I saw horses in 
 that land and they were magnificent in form and mo- 
 tion. Others have seen different kinds of animals 
 there. In fact, we are surrounded with what pleases 
 us most all through the loving care of our dear Lord 
 and King, Christ Jesus, our Adoration. You love 
 Him here, but you will adore Him there. Well did 
 Isaiah say, "The Lord is the light thereof." Light a 
 golden azure, clear and glorious. No night, just beau- 
 tiful dimming of the glory light enters everywhere ; 
 just as light in a hallway or apartment as in the open 
 air; just soft, gentle, loving illumination. No light 
 
Land of Love — What It Is 97 
 
 like it on earth, nor even to compare with it. Air, a 
 balmy fragrance, pervades everywhere laden with the 
 odor of ever-blooming flowers ; so gentle, no storms 
 nor winds of force, just a gentle movement so lovely 
 Few have been to the same part of this immense land 
 of love. Xo two that I have heard of, but at the same 
 time all agree to the general facts. The mansions are 
 furnished beautifully, far beyond anything on earth, 
 just as the occupant desires. Oh, come, pray come, 
 and be at home with the dear ones and our Lord. 
 May the Holy Spirit lead you there. 
 
 UP THERE AT HOME. 
 
 Whene'er our earthly body 
 
 A carnal veil of clay 
 Is gently, kindly, sadly, 
 
 Laid out in death's array, 
 We shall see a bright, lovely, 
 
 Glorious, golden day 
 Upon our glad arrival 
 
 So safe up there alway. 
 
 Then shall we behold thee, 
 
 Beautiful angels bright, 
 Who wait to welcome us in 
 
 Their beauty and their might 
 At the pearl gate so brilliant, 
 
 Glad sight and precious boon, 
 So gently, and so lovingly, 
 
 Just up there at our home. 
 
 Then behold ourselves, 
 
 In lovely robes of white, 
 Beautiful like silk crepe, 
 
 Or lovely satin bright, 
 
98 What W e Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Woven by our spirits 
 
 In actions of this life, 
 Through power of our own 
 
 King's love; up there at home. 
 
 Then shall we be welcomed 
 
 At homq at last through grace, 
 By those darling ones whom 
 
 We have loved, our mates, 
 And feel once more their loving, 
 
 Sweet arms around us thrown 
 In perfect love's embrace 
 
 So pure and fast at home. 
 
 Then shall we greet those loving ones, 
 
 Forever more so dear, 
 Father, mother, sister brother, 
 
 Our own again reborn, 
 Children, friends and loving angels, 
 
 Forever to us near, 
 Husbands, wives and spiritual loves 
 
 Of earthly life at home. 
 
 Then shall we adore our Savior, 
 
 Our ever loving King, 
 Us and our precious treasures, 
 
 Ever will he enthrone, 
 And to our happy spirits, 
 
 Our souls will ever cling, 
 Our celestial bodies beauties, 
 
 And safely home, our home. 
 
 Then we find sweet love's employ 
 
 In love's lovely retreat, 
 In our dear Father's house, 
 
 Never again to roam 
 There we will view our mansions 
 
 Glorious, grand and sweet. 
 And kneel in love at Jesus' feet, 
 
 Forever more at home. 
 
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 When John the Baptist came preaching the king- 
 dom of heaven is at hand, Matt. 3 : 2, Jesus the king- 
 dom of God is come nigh unto you. Again, it has 
 indeed come nigh unto you, it just encircles this gross 
 world of ours. Paul heard Jesus plainly when he 
 called him on the road to Damascus. Stephen saw 
 him at the right hand of our Father. It is not right 
 for us to say that things do not exist that w T e do not 
 see with these carnal eyes of ours. First, you can 
 count the spokes of a bicycle when standing still, but 
 as it increases the speed you lose sight of the spokes. 
 What has occurred? The vibration of motion has 
 been increased beyond the capacity of your eye in its 
 natural state. An angel or spirit or the spirit of a 
 just one made perfect, their bodies vibrate so fast 
 that we cannot see them unless the optical nerve and 
 pupil of our eye is expanded so as to take in the speed 
 of the vibrations of their body. That is what oc- 
 curs when a vision is beheld. It is often called the 
 removal of the earthly veil. It often occurs when 
 our dear ones are passing over, as the experiences 
 and evidences of said fact in this book will prove. 
 Yes, they often come from the ethereal sphere and 
 space above us into this gross sphere to warn, guide 
 and protect us groping mortals here below. Great 
 is the love of our mother, and do you think the moth- 
 er's love loses any of its strength or purity? No, it 
 increases in that land of love. So does all pure love. 
 
100 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 There have been men and women in all ages and 
 times that have and do see them at times. Those of 
 the upper or outer spheres understand what Jesus 
 taught and know a great deal more than we do. Many 
 ask the question, How can they be happy when they 
 see our troubles here below? Why do you not feel 
 that same sorrow that a little child feels when it 
 breaks its doll? Because you know it is a lesson to 
 the little one, and if she is wise will be benefited by 
 it. They in the eternal world look towards our eternal 
 welfare, and there is nothing like trials and tribula- 
 tions to bring us nearer to our Father and Master, 
 and increase the growth of soul on our spirits. 
 Again, you would ask, Don't they miss the lost ones 
 or the weak ones of the family? Joel, second, says 
 that "whosoever calleth on the name of the Lord shall 
 be saved." Again, Acts 2: 21, Peter in that great ser- 
 mon of sermons, when three thousand souls were be- 
 gotten by the spirit, says the same : "Whosoever call- 
 eth on the name of the Lord shall be saved." So say 
 I. The thief on the cross only asked and was saved. 
 Wherever the name of Christ has been preached, 
 very few pass out without saying, Jesus be merciful 
 to me. He or she is saved there and then; but sal- 
 vation is not all of it, it is just a ticket through the 
 gates of Paradise. I do not recommend calling at the 
 last moment, as some are unable to call, therefore, 
 lost. And at best you are only a naked spirit or tramp 
 
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 in a land of glory, just a spirit, saved as by fire. Oh, 
 so little soul, and it takes them a long time to bring 
 them up to that state of joy, the family circle in our 
 Master's kingdom, and I doubt if they ever reach the 
 altitude of glory they would have done, had they done 
 their duty here below. But it is the duty of those in 
 higher spheres to educate and elevate the weaker 
 spirits. Just as Jesus did here on earth, so will we do 
 there, and glorious is the labor of love. 
 
 Yes, an inorganic or spiritual world could pass 
 through this world of ours and we be none the wiser 
 unless we were a clairaudiant or clairvoyant. The two 
 worlds are growing more close, that is, those that 
 love the Lord, and closer shall they come until Jesus 
 appears in all his glory. Many saw them at the resur- 
 rection of the Lord. Even Pilate saw many. A spirit 
 of our Master can descend even to hell, ascend as high 
 as he has soul to float himself, and a lost spirit cannot 
 drift above his sphere, as he has no soul. Soul gives 
 them the buoyancy. I know our dear ones appear to 
 us. I have seen my first wife a number of times, and 
 on the 25th of August, 1906, my mother appeared at 
 my bedside about two a.m., and kissed me three times, 
 and I kissed her in return. My first wife has often 
 talked to me and I to her. Yes, our dear ones are 
 near and love us just the same. They are gone on 
 before us. We are not lost to them, although we 
 don't all see them. They will meet us if we love the 
 
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 Lord, greet us, and escort us to our homes above 
 with the angel host, and we will live with them in our 
 Father's kingdom. Our fathers, our own fathers, 
 our mothers, our own dear mothers, our brothers and 
 sisters, our own, dear partners and lovers of life, our 
 own, our children, our very own, our dear ones are 
 happy, with faces and forms just the same, only beau- 
 tified. They enjoy their growth in knowledge, they 
 enjoy their beautiful homes, they enjoy their duties 
 there, and each other's society, as there is not de- 
 ception, as all see and are known. They enjoy their 
 visits to us mortals here below ; in fact, it is all joy, 
 glory, peace and love, oh, love untold, walking, drift- 
 ing through that land of glory with their dear ones, 
 and joyously wait for us here below to come and join 
 the glorified multitudes, all through Jesus our King, 
 who is Jehovah ever. Glory to his name ! and our dear 
 Father who loves us. Glory in the highest ! 
 
 OUR HOME. 
 
 When we approach the glorious, 
 
 And radiant Gate of Pearl bright; 
 We are welcomed at the portal, 
 
 By our dear Father's sons of light, 
 Who kindly and gently greet us. 
 
 O ! so sweet in their loving might. 
 Divine forms, as men, but perfect, 
 
 So sublime in robes of pure white ; 
 Bright eyes overflowing with love, 
 
 They win us by their glance at sight; 
 We are filled with love-glory, 
 
 O ! the joyous child-like delight. 
 
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 They gently take our hands in theirs, 
 
 So kind and lovingly in love ; 
 And lead us into a glorious, 
 
 Grand city of our Father above. 
 Beautiful is the lovely view, 
 
 So far can you see in that land ; 
 On the left a park glorious, 
 
 Trees, flowers, walks and verdure grand; 
 All perfect in form, rose no thorns, 
 
 Like plush or bright green is the grass. 
 Are kind and lovingly greeted, 
 
 By all living souls as we pass. 
 
 The lovely streets are straight and broad, 
 
 Beautiful arched bridges of gold, 
 Trees rainbow green on every side, 
 
 Twelve kinds of fruit do they hold, 
 Procession of spirits made perfect, 
 
 Move forward so grand to behold. 
 O ! perfect their forms and motions ; 
 
 As more glory spheres they unfold, 
 With sweet, divine, lovely music, 
 
 This heavenly song they all sing, 
 Of their salvation by Jesus, 
 
 Our Lord, Adoration and King. 
 
 The light is a clear, golden azure, 
 
 Lovely, glorious and sublime; 
 The atmosphere rich with fragrance, 
 
 Happifies you beautiful clime. 
 All things are divine and equal, 
 
 O! such magnificence you see; 
 All things at home are perfect, 
 
 In beauty, glory and purity, 
 A land of immense infinity, 
 
 With the lovely rivers wide and long 
 O ! the sweet purity of pure love, 
 
 In that blessed land of love — Home. 
 
104 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 On the right, beautiful, glorious, 
 
 Lovely mansions broad and high, — 
 White columns and long balconies ; 
 
 Divine architecture that vie, — 
 Each one built of a precious gem, 
 
 Sublime and beautiful to view; 
 With individual colors radiant, 
 
 Lovely pure white steps and arches, too, 
 Viewing along the fronts so brilliant, 
 
 You see royal bright colors blend; 
 The rainbow at ten million times 
 
 Its beautiful brightness is dim. 
 
 In the far distance are mansions, 
 
 Beautiful homes, numbers untold ; 
 Like suburban residences near, 
 
 Our royal large cities of old. 
 Surrounded by beautiful groves ; 
 
 Lovely walks, fountains and flowers, 
 Where dwelleth those dear, sweetest loves. 
 
 Darlings just gone on before ours; 
 They come joyfully greeting us, 
 
 And we them to our arms enfold ; 
 Their forms so lovely and perfect, 
 
 The same beautiful faces behold. 
 
 We enter our lovely mansion, 
 
 And behold a grand winding stair ; 
 Is columns and golden damask, 
 
 Suspending, lovely, everywhere ; 
 Is royally furnished complete. 
 
 O ! beautiful, pure and clean there. 
 Joyously greet and are welcome, 
 
 Lovingly by all home reborn ; 
 It is the land of our Father, 
 
 And we never again will moan. 
 It is pure divine love-glory; 
 
 Forever with Tesus at Home. 
 
WHY DREAD TRANSITION? 
 
 Should we not prepare for transition, and why 
 should so many call spiritual things or beings un- 
 canny and fear them? When children we longed to 
 be larger and older boys and girls, then we longed 
 for manhood and, womanhood. Then to be parents, 
 then grandparents, and obtain all the good things of 
 life. But when we come to transition, most of the 
 human family halt. The only certain thing that is cer- 
 tain to occur in our lives is the least thought of, and 
 feared, and if we have only accepted Jesus, lived the 
 life we should live, it should be the happiest moment 
 of our lives. Let us all up and be preparing for that 
 great event certain to come to each one of us. We 
 fear not each other now, we fear not those in the 
 flesh, why those in the spirit world? We are in the 
 flesh now, clothed with flesh, then spirits clothed with 
 soul, and if we only call on Jesus just inside of that 
 land of love, a tramp. If we have lived on earth as 
 we should, a living soul clothed fully with soul and 
 beautiful as angels. Oh, I pray you to not fear the 
 powers of our Lord, be it the sweet small voice, or 
 angel, or spirits of just ones made perfect. Court 
 
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 them by obedience to the impressions of the same. 
 How many in all ages from Adam to the present day 
 have seen angels, their dear ones and greeted them 
 with joy. So may you. The greatest reason I believe 
 is ignorance of the Bible, the teachings of Jesus and 
 Paul, and neglect of the same and nonacceptance of 
 witness of others here on earth who are merely wit- 
 nesses of the same spiritual world, to which we are 
 all going, a land of darkness or a land of light and 
 love. 
 
 Which will it be for you, my dear reader? One or 
 the other it must be. Who is your master, Jesus or 
 Satan? Which are you going to live with in eternity? 
 Let me assure you that if you will love the Lord you 
 will greet that child with love, that sister, that brother, 
 that dear wife or husband, father and mother, all 
 your own in love more intense and glorious, joy un- 
 told, more lovely than when on earth, and perchance 
 they may greet you here on earth just as you depart 
 with the Master's will. Have not many in this volume 
 given you evidence of their seeing their dear ones? 
 Many have been in that land of love and gave you 
 good descriptions of it. Some passed over and some 
 living on the earth to-day that have seen it, walked 
 and drifted in it, saw, beheld and known just wit- 
 nesses of the dear old Bible, both Old and New. 
 Will you not believe them? Most of them have been 
 to different locations, but all agree in general princi- 
 
Why Dread Transition? 107 
 
 pies, and after having been there all intense workers 
 for our Master, free of charge to all men, aiming to 
 turn all the spirits in the flesh to that land of glory, 
 our Master's kingdom, knowing they will receive 
 their reward upon their arrival home again at last. 
 Come, oh, I pray you, come, and be happy in eternity. 
 Fear not that which is good, but court it. Judge ye 
 the spirits. Any that acknowledge Christ Jesus as 
 King, love them, obey them, and it will be well for 
 you, and our heavenly Father as their Father. Avoid 
 all that do not ackuowledge Jesus as King. Court an- 
 gels or spirits of just ones made perfect. Love them 
 but do not worship them. They do not desire it. Wor- 
 ship only the Holy Spirit, Jesus and our Father, 
 blessed Trinity. 
 
 There is no pain in transition. You never fell 
 alseep so gently and easily. In fact, going to sleep and 
 transition are very similar, only the latter is more 
 joyous and lovely. You close your eyes and open 
 them, just pass out of your carnal shell as the angel 
 takes your hand, and if strong in the Lord stand filled 
 with love and glory and wonder why your dear friends 
 are weeping. What affects you most is to see them 
 weep, and they will not listen to you nor see you 
 when you try to comfort them. You see earthly things 
 as well as spiritual things all around you. Angels 
 and dear friends that have come to welcome you and 
 all your earthly friends near, also at a distance. The 
 
108 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 spiritual eye is stronger than any telescope on earth. 
 You can pass through buildings like you do through 
 the air while in the flesh. Then the angel takes your 
 hand and the other loved ones made perfect gather 
 around you and you drift to that lovely land so close 
 by, joyously singing as you go, seeing and being seen, 
 loving and being loved with a love as pure, blessed 
 love, blessed land, so close that if you are a clair- 
 voyant you could see them, and that land or a clairau- 
 diant and hear the glorious music. It is indeed nigh 
 unto us as Jesus said. It enfolds this little world of 
 ours. It is all space. There- is no vacuum. Our dear 
 Father created nothing for nothing. All have their 
 place and plane in some of the spheres in glory, as 
 we have loved the blessed Trinity and done our duty 
 to our fellow-men. Oh, believe me, you need have 
 no fear if you only love our Lord. Jesus said, "Who- 
 soever liveth and believeth in me shall never die," 
 and he always told the truth. It is birth, not death you 
 see, just an occurrence in a continued life and like 
 the early fathers and those that have loved Him in- 
 tensely even in the present age, long for transition. 
 This is why the early fathers and martyrs rushed 
 to Rome fearful that they would not be martyred or 
 counted worthy to pass over as witnesses for Jesus, 
 and was what conquered Rome and the greater part 
 of Europe. Jesus said you shall not see nor taste 
 
Why Dread Transition? 109 
 
 death. Oh, come to him who giveth life, life eternal 
 in love. 
 
 SPIRIT BIRTH. 
 
 Upon a lovely bed, 
 
 A Christian mother lay. 
 Passing gently on from 
 
 This earthly life away. 
 Her lovely face brightens 
 
 With glory, love and joy, 
 As she sees on the right 
 
 Her reborn little Roy — 
 Passed lately on from earth 
 
 Her dearest baby boy. 
 
 On the left she sees her 
 
 Mother and husband dear, 
 Come to meet and welcome 
 
 Her re-born spirit here; 
 They greet her most lovingly, 
 
 And kindly bid her come 
 To our Master's kingdom, 
 
 Land where they never moan ; 
 She nods sweet and whispers, 
 "I am now going — home !" 
 
 Near an angel of grand, 
 
 Lovely form and face stands, 
 Who entreats her now come forth — 
 
 Jesus our Lord commands ! 
 And lo ! forth she gently comes, 
 
 As He takes her pure hand — 
 A lovely, living soul, 
 
 The same as made in man. 
 Glory, Father, glory, Son, 
 
 Her victory is won ! 
 
 Her face, oh, how radiant! 
 But just the same, I know, 
 
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 Eyes with pure love glowing, 
 
 Her form is perfect now, 
 Robes so white and brilliant, 
 
 Like crepe or satin lawn; 
 Her motions free and easy, 
 
 So queenly she has grown — 
 Oh, lovely, yes, all lovely, 
 
 Are our dear loves reborn. 
 
 They around her gather, 
 
 Greeting, loving and sweet, 
 She responds to their welcome, 
 
 Wonderful joy so great. 
 Each side of her lovingly, 
 
 They gently take their stand — 
 The holy angel then 
 
 Leads gladly in the van, 
 And home, home, joyfully drift, 
 
 To our Lord's glory land! 
 
WITNESSES OF THE TRUTH 
 
 I will arrange the witnesses as to the identity, in- 
 dividuality, and immortality of the spirit of man, and 
 to those spheres to which he goes after he has lived 
 his allotted time on this earth of ours, according to 
 the intensity of the spiritual powers upon them. First, 
 one who wishes to give here evidence as many others 
 have, and was not allowed to by the powers of this 
 earth. Second, those who have by vision or the spirit 
 upon them granted by our dear heavenly Father and 
 Master the privilege of seeing their dear ones as 
 they pass over, and those that have seen their dear 
 ones and others when in perfect health. Third, those 
 who by grace have experienced being in the spirit, or a 
 separation of the inward body, the living soul and from 
 the outward body, the carnal shell we wore here on 
 earth. 
 
 Aberdeen, Miss., August 29, 1906. 
 
 On the 25th of April, 1882, in Aberdeen, Miss., 
 Mrs. Geo. W. Bashaw, in passing over was in a 
 trance state twenty minutes. When she revived she 
 said, "I wish you would let me tell you what I saw. 
 I have had an insight into heaven. Let me tell you. 
 You will be sorry some day that you will not let me 
 tell you." The doctor had given orders prohibit- 
 
112 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 ing her from talking, and she passed out with a smile 
 
 on her face. 
 
 Witnesses to same: 
 Mrs. J. V. Mims, 
 A. W. Peek, 
 Geo. W. Bashaw. 
 
 In the desire to give evidence of what she had seen 
 while absent from her body, yes, even as she states, 
 she has no doubt seen the beauties and glories of that 
 heavenly land, but some of our doctors of all ages 
 have closed the lips of those that would have been 
 bright and glorious witnesses of the identity, individ- 
 uality and immortality of the spirit, by orders and by 
 drugs. Oh, what a crime against humanity. Here 
 a mother and wife wishes and is not allowed to, even 
 pleading, "let me tell you. You will be sorry some 
 clay that you will not let me tell you." No, we will 
 never know what she saw until we meet her in that 
 land of love. How many thousands have been si- 
 lenced by this world's powers, and not only in this 
 way have many been prevented from giving their 
 evidence, but thousands have been buried while in 
 a trance state, as the evidence of undertakers that 
 have charge of removing corpses from old burying 
 grounds show. They state that it is not uncom- 
 mon to find a corpse turned over, and evidences of 
 struggles to release themselves from a living tomb. 
 No person should be buried or embalmed until mor- 
 tification sets in. Again, how many turn to their 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 113 
 
 dear ones they have known all their lives and knew 
 them to be perfectly truthful and say, "Oh, you have 
 lost your mind/' or say it to a second person in the 
 room, even so they hear it. Cruelty of cruelties. How 
 can you do it? Why not give the same credence to 
 the witnesses of heaven that you do to the witnesses 
 of earth? You say you do. I say you don't, and will 
 prove it. In all of our cities, towns or even in the 
 country, there are some poor, weak men or women 
 that. are given to drink or drugs. Two persons are 
 walking together and they hear a shot or scream. 
 They run to the place, and there they find a poor man 
 that you nor no one else that knows him would take 
 his word for ten cents, just passing out. He says 
 clearly and distinctly, so we both hear him, "James 
 Jones killed me." We go before a grand jury and 
 state what he said. They will indict, try and convict 
 James Jones unless he can prove an alibi. This is true 
 in all courts of the civilized world. Now our dear 
 ones that we have known all their lives, and would 
 take their word for anything, when passing out, we 
 say they have lost their minds. For shame. Let us 
 be honest and give the same credence to heavenly 
 witnessing that we da the evidence of earthly things 
 
 FROM THE SOUTHERN PRESBYTERIAN WHO CAN 
 
 EXPLAIN? 
 
 From the "Life of Dr. Danby," by the Rev. E. C. 
 Johnson, I quote. Dr. Danby says : On Sabbath 
 
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 morning I was thought so much better that everybody 
 went to church, leaving me to my wife's care. I then 
 had an experience of which I am as certain as I am 
 of my own existence, but which I cannot explain. As 
 I lay on my bed, in this easy, calm and rational state, 
 I heard for a considerable time, hymn after hymn of 
 soft, sacred music coming apparently from the direc- 
 tion of Mrs. Sarah Bobcoks'. There was one kind of 
 soft instrument accompanied by sweet female voices. 
 I could never remember the tunes though I had a faint 
 impression that one was a very sweet hymn new to 
 me, which I had heard in Westminster Abbey in 
 London in 1880. I called my wife to enjoy the music 
 with me and asked her if it could not be some of- the 
 girls of the neighborhood singing just for my en- 
 joyment. She declared that she heard nothing. I 
 asked her to go to the back of the house and watch 
 Mrs. Bobcoks' house and learn if the music did not 
 come from there. She went, watched, listened, and 
 declared there was no music, that the house was closed 
 and all the family gone to church. After a time the 
 music ceased, leaving me much pleased and refreshed. 
 Such are the dry facts; what is the explanation? May 
 it be that I had come so near death that I heard the 
 sweet, faint echoes of the heavenly choir, or can it be 
 that this strange music was the deceitful result of some 
 morbid cerebral or my own brain now relaxing from 
 its tension? I assert no opinion, I know the facts. 1 
 quote this that I may relate what was told me when I 
 was visiting the family of one of the elders of my 
 church in Lownes Church, Alabama, where I was 
 preaching in 1859. One of the daughters told me of 
 the death of a sister a few months before. The hus- 
 band of that sister had taken her to Texas on account 
 of her health a few years before her death. The move 
 proved only a temporary benefit, as she had lung 
 trouble. As the end drew near, fully realizing her 
 condition, she said to her physician, who was not a 
 Christian, but rather inclined to skepticism, she wanted 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 115 
 
 him to be with her when she died, that he might see 
 how a Christian could die. This proved true, as he, 
 with her kindred, was standing by her bed, bidding 
 her a loving farewell. After being silent for a little 
 while, looking up, she said, "Doctor, do you hear 
 that music? It is so sweet, but it sounds a long way 
 off.'' She repeated the question a number of times, 
 saying, "It is coming nearer. O! it is beautiful!" 
 Turning to her friends, she asked, "Can't you hear it?" 
 With her face beaming as with joy, as with joy in- 
 expressible, she repeated time and again, "Oh, so 
 sweet, and it comes nearer ! I never heard anything 
 like it." The end came leaving upon her face such 
 an expression as w r ords cannot show. Again a few 
 months after that, visiting the same house, in conver- 
 sation with the same sister, she told me about the 
 death of a child of a friend of hers, a short time be- 
 fore. There were two sisters, one married, the other 
 unmarried, who made their homes together. The 
 married sister died, leaving a little daughter, some 
 three or four months old, to the care of her sister. 
 Some six months after her mother's death, the little 
 daughter died. The sisters were both lovely Chris- 
 tians. As the little one was passing away, her aunt 
 kneeling by her bed watching life ebbing away, the 
 little one with closed eyes, as the aunt thought, was 
 dead. Very much to her surprise, opening her eyes 
 and throwing up her hands, with a sweet smile of 
 gladness, called, "Oh, oh, mamma, mamma !" With 
 that the end came. Was this all delusion? or, had the 
 loving Savior sent to carry to that heavenly home her 
 darling little one? Who can tell? Are they not all 
 ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them 
 who shall be heirs of salvation? 
 
 W W M 
 
 Statesville, N. C. 
 
 Fifth, but not by any means least, General Stone- 
 wall Jackson, the praying and fighting hen) of the 
 
116 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 South, one whose word no man can doubt, his last 
 words were, "Let us cross over the river and rest 
 in the shade of the trees." Who is he or she that can 
 doubt the word of this great commander? Who will 
 say that he did not see that lovely river, so flashing 
 like molten silver, clear and beautiful, the glorious 
 halo of that golden land of love, and the beautiful 
 trees of rainbow shades and colors? Think you that 
 such a man as he would lie? No, I feel assured and 
 know by my own experience that ere his carnal body 
 was laid down his living soul was under those trees 
 across the river, surrounded by his dear ones, and he 
 waits to greet his old vets, as they answer their last 
 roll call here on earth, the same dear old general, only 
 beautified and glorified he lives. 
 
 Another old veteran, Jesse J. Latham, of 1543 
 Fourth Street, Macon, Ga., age 72 years, passed over 
 January 8, 1908; was ill for one week with pneu- 
 monia; saw his mother January 1, 1903, and contin- 
 ually during the week. Also saw his daughter Ruby 
 that had passed over six years prior. In speaking 
 to his wife, would say, "Oh, don't push against Ruby. 
 She is there beside you," and would hold out his arms 
 and say, "Mother, I am coming." Was perfectly 
 conscious and sane regarding his earthly surround- 
 ings, and as he passed out addressed Mr. Chas. Ma- 
 bry, his brother-in-law, "Oh, what a beautiful place. 
 Is this our home, are we going to live here?" 
 
 Witnesses : 
 Mrs. Jesse Latham, 
 Mrs. S. S. Mabry, 
 Mr. Chas. Mabry. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 117 
 
 Here we have three witnesses, all honest, consci- 
 entious members of the Presbyterian Church, estab- 
 lishing what this old veteran saw. First, he has a 
 knowledge of, sees, hears and talks to those that he 
 had loved and that had previously passed over — his 
 own dear ones, his mother and daughter. Also like 
 Stonewall Jackson, sees that land and his home in 
 that land of love, and as he has lived a conscientious 
 life here below his home is much more beautiful in 
 that land of glory. He had no earthly reason to de- 
 ceive, but just states what he say, heard and knew. 
 I wish you to note that it was no passing glance of his 
 mother or Ruby, his daughter, but for one whole week 
 he saw, spoke to and associated with them. xAlso the 
 point that on all earthly matters he was perfectly 
 sane. Do you believe them and him? I hope you do. 
 
 Mr. John Smith, of Macon Ga., passed out April 
 1886; was conscious and rational of all his surround- 
 ings here. Talked for two days with his two children 
 that had previously passed over home — John Smith, 
 Jr., and Isabelle Smith, and would say, pointing 
 where he saw them, "Don't you see them? 'They are 
 there. They say that they are waiting for me," and 
 just as he passed out called out, "John and Isabelle, 
 I am coming." Witness : 
 
 H. J. RlCHTER. 
 
 In this evidence you also see that for two days he 
 sees, knows, hears and talks to his own children. 
 Don't vou think you would know vour own children. 
 
118 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 especially when they were in your presence contin- 
 ually for two days? He was also perfectly conscious 
 and rational regarding earthly things. 
 
 Tuscaloosa, Ala., September 6, 1906. 
 Statement of Mrs. James O. Abbott, 13 12 Nine- 
 teenth Ave., City : In 1863 I was at the side of the bed 
 when Lieutenant Gay, of a Tennessee regiment, passed 
 over to that land of our Lord. He was wounded in 
 the knee at the battle of Athens, Ala. Just before 
 passing out he saw his mother, who had passed over 
 fourteen years prior, called her by name and tried 
 to show her to us. Also said that the room was full 
 of angels and tried to show them to us. He was 
 twenty-eight years old. of sound mind, and seemed 
 perfectly sane. 
 
 Mrs. James O. Abbott. 
 
 Here we have another veteran in the prime of life 
 who sees his own loving, beautified mother, called 
 by a mother's intense love and by commission of our 
 Father and Master, attended by the angels of the 
 Most High, comes to greet and welcome her soldier 
 boy. Think you that he would state that his mother 
 and the angels were there when he knew that in a few 
 hours he would be in eternity ? That is the time when 
 all men speak the truth. Or do you think for no 
 consideration whatever except that giving the evi- 
 dence that had been granted to her to others, hoping 
 that thereby some one might stop and think and be 
 convinced of the truth, be saved and thank her in that 
 land of love for doing her duty. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 119 
 
 Meridian, Miss., November 24, 1906. 
 
 In 1866, W. E. Sikes, of Brookville, Miss., previ- 
 ous to passing over to the eternal spheres saw his 
 two boys and daughter that had passed over previ- 
 ously, and would say to me, "Don't you see them? 
 They are there," calling them by their names, Willie, 
 Johnny and Elizabeth. I was in the room continu- 
 ally most of the time, and was perfectly satisfied that 
 he saw them. I was his wife at the time and mother of 
 the children spoken of. 
 
 Mrs. H. F. Harrison. 
 
 Fifth St. and 45th Ave. 
 
 We have here the evidence of a mother and wife. 
 She is a lady of excellent character, a member of the 
 Methodist Episcopal Church, one of our real, old-fash- 
 ioned mothers whose word you can always depend 
 upon, and do you think for one moment that she would 
 misrepresent any fact, especially regarding her dear 
 ones who have gone on before, knowing that in a short 
 time she will meet them glorified and beautified ? Here 
 we have a father talking to his wife, mother of the 
 children that he sees close beside him. Think you 
 he would deceive that darling wife? No, he is just 
 stating the facts, and like all others that have loved 
 our Father and Master he was granted this blessed 
 privilege and they were permitted to come and wel- 
 come him to that eternal land of love. 
 
 Aberdeen, Miss., August 27, 1906. 
 In June, 1884, Mrs. Heisen, of Aberdeen, Miss., 
 just before passing out, saw and talked to Miss Lucy 
 Jones, who had previously departed this life. Mrs. 
 
120 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Heiser had during her life in this vale been very kind 
 to and dearly loved Miss Jones. Just before passing 
 over she said, "Take my hand, Lucy, I am coming,'' 
 and passed out with a smile on her face. She was per- 
 fectly rational, having just arranged her earthly af- 
 fairs. Both were ladies of good Christian character. 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. Geo. W. Bradshaw. 
 Aberdeen, Miss. 
 
 Here we have two intimate friends, one from the 
 other land, talking to and recognizing her friend still 
 in the flesh. The other in the flesh sees her, hears and 
 understands what her friend from the other world is 
 talking about and perfectly willing to go with her, 
 and in fact asks her to take her hand. 
 
 Selma, Ala., November 5, 1906. 
 
 On February 12, 1871, Miss Emma Fisher, before 
 passing out said to her mother, "Mother, father is 
 standing by you." Her father had passed over four 
 years prior. "He has come for me. I am going with 
 him. Don't you see him?" Then commenced to sing, 
 "Jesus, the Water of Life Will Give to Those Who 
 Love Him." About a month after a piece of music 
 was given to me to play, "Sweet, By and By," and 
 when I commenced playing it I could hear her, my 
 daughter Emma, singing at my side. I had never 
 heard it before, and she sang it beautifully. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. Tarner Reese. 
 
 Broad St., Selma, Ala. 
 
 We have here a little girl ten years old, unac- 
 quainted with the facts of spirituality, just who sees 
 her father and knows him, and is surprised that her 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 121 
 
 mother, his wife, cannot see him also. Also states 
 that he has come for her. She hears him and under- 
 stands him, is willing to go — he is just her own papa 
 — and passed out singing a beautiful hymn. Oh, how 
 much there is in this sentence, "I am going with him." 
 What do you suppose caused this child to speak and 
 even locate her father beside her mother unless she 
 actually saw him? Then one month afterward her 
 mother hears her singing at her side clearly and dis- 
 tinctly. All of these parties were, and their mother 
 is, a member of the First Presbyterian Church, of 
 Selma, Alabama, well known, truthful and honest. 
 She also says, "This was my first husband and my 
 daughter." 
 
 Meridian, Miss., December 3, 1906. 
 On August 15, 1900, at Biloxi, Miss., Mary Adel 
 departed this life. On the 14th, one day prior, her 
 mother being beside her bed at the time, Mary raised 
 her hand just as though she was holding something, 
 and said, "Ma, Ma, here is brother John's hand. Don't 
 you see it?" John was her brother that had passed over 
 eighteen months prior and when passing out called 
 out, raising her hands, "Beautiful, beautiful, beauti- 
 ful !" She was thirty-two years of age, a member of 
 the Presbyterian Church, a conscientious and truthful 
 Christian laborer. She had agreed with her mother 
 that if she passed over before her mother and she 
 saw T anything she would tell her. 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Her Mother, Mrs. Anna Williams, 
 Miss Effie Merritt, 
 
122 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Both of these ladies are of high character, well 
 known, respected, truthful and members of the Pres- 
 byterian Church, 1708 Twenty-third Ave., Meridian, 
 Miss. Here we have a young lady, highly educated, 
 of pure moral character, who had lived a Christian 
 life, loved by all and noted for her truthfulness. Her 
 mother and she had agreed previously that which- 
 ever one passed out first would tell the other if she 
 saw any of the dear ones gone on before to that land 
 of love. This kind of agreement is quite common 
 now, as the great question is, Do we live in the fu- 
 ture, and how? If not, then enjoy this world. If 
 we do, and are wise, we will prepare ourselves for 
 the other eternal life. No doubt her brother John 
 stood beside her holding her hand, and she feeling 
 his hand and feeling it so distinctly thought her mother 
 should certainly see what she saw and felt. You see 
 she recognizes it as her brother John's, who only 
 eighteen months prior had passed over. Don't you 
 think she knew him and was trying to fulfill her agree- 
 ment with her mother whom she loved, and knowing 
 that she was passing over ? Do you think for one mo- 
 ment that she would deceive her mother? You or I 
 will speak only truth when we are about to cross the 
 line. Then when passing out called, "Beautiful, beau- 
 tiful, beautiful," holding up her hands. Who can say 
 but what this lovely daughter of the Southland did 
 not have a vision of even more beautv than General 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 123 
 
 Stonewall Jackson? Now as to the two witnesses, 
 we have none nobler, more truthful in our Southland. 
 
 Rome, Ga., July 12, 1906. 
 Mrs. Geo. S. Brown, of East Rome, Spring St., 
 age eighty-four and three weeks, was an invalid three 
 years. Adopted and raised a young lady, Miss Katy 
 Kline, who was bending over her two days before Mrs. 
 Brown passed over to our Master's kingdom. She 
 was known for her high Christian character. She 
 called out, loud and distinct, "Glory ! Glory ! Katy, I 
 see your mother." Katy's mother had been a friend 
 of here in youth and had passed over twenty-six years 
 prior. She was perfectly rational. 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Miss Katy [Kline, 
 Mrs. P. A. Cato, 
 Miss Ella Brown, 
 Miss Ella Cato. 
 
 We have in this witness an aged lady of refinement, 
 one who still loved the associates of her youth and 
 had done an extreme kindness to the friend of her 
 youth by adopting and raising her child. Please note 
 she was perfectly rational, and this was two days be- 
 fore her departure. Sees this friend just as her 
 adopted daughter bends over her, speaks out clearly 
 and distinctly so that all these four witnesses hear her, 
 "Glory! Glory! Katy, I see your mother." These 
 four witnesses believe she did. So do I. Do you? 
 All are ladies of excellent Christian character. 
 
 Montgomery, Ala., July 25, 1905. 
 Airs. Brown's statement: W. P. Tanner, her 
 grandfather, passed over eight years before Katy 
 
124 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Brown was born. Katy Brown's sister, Lees Brown, 
 had passed over one year prior. Katy was only about 
 eighteen months old. Just before passing out, she. 
 Katy, was talking with her father and mother and 
 bade them good-bye. She seemed to see others in the 
 room and was talking to them, when she called out. 
 "Sister Lees, Grandpa, wait, Katy Brown is coming," 
 and passed out with a smile upon her face. Oc- 
 curred in 1891. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. W. K. Brown. 
 
 This witness is a little child eighteen months old 
 who has not had the time in this world to become ac- 
 quainted with her surroundings, just in her simple 
 way telling what she saw. You may wonder how she 
 knew her grandfather. He had passed over eight 
 years before she was born, also her sister, who had 
 passed over when she was six months old. The knowl- 
 edge and glory of the spirit birth, language can never 
 fully express. She certainly saw them, talked with 
 them, understood them and was anxious to go with 
 them, as she called, "Sister Lees, Grandpa, wait, Katy 
 Brown is coming," although she dearly loved her fa- 
 ther and mother. This is a mother's statement, and oh, 
 how sacred are our loved ones to us all. 
 
 Americus, Ga v March 25, 1905. 
 Mrs. A. J. Cleghorn states that her little son Jack, 
 four years and two months of age, while passing over 
 to that land of love, our Master's kingdom, being 
 perfectly conscious at the time, called his brother, 
 who had passed over ten years before, and said, "Wait 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 125 
 
 for me, little Brother, I am coming," waving his little 
 hands. "I hear the bells ringing. Good-bye Mamma," 
 and passed over. Witness: 
 
 Mrs. A. J. Cleghorn. 
 
 Here we have again a little boy, only four years 
 and two months old, seeing and knowing his brother 
 whom he had never seen on earth in the flesh. There 
 is no doubt but what he had talked to his brother and 
 his brother to him. He must have fully understood 
 him. His words express this fact. Waving his little 
 hands to him. "I hear the bells ringing." Young as 
 he was he fully recognized that he was going with 
 his brother and leaving his own mamma. Please also 
 note that his mother states that he was perfectly con- 
 scious at the time. Do you think this darling little 
 child was trying to deceive his mother? No, he saw, 
 heard and knew, and related just the facts of the case. 
 A little witness, but a grand one of the birth of the 
 spirit. Gift of the Prince of Life, Jesus, to us crea- 
 tures here below if we only love him. 
 
 Macon, Ga., April 4, 1906. 
 Statement of Marion Mays, Mount Mays, and Cap- 
 tain Mays : On the 26th of March, 1905, in Augusta, 
 Ga., our sister, Miss Katie Mays, age twenty-three 
 years, a young lady of high Christian attainments and 
 noted for her truthfulness, being perfectly conscious 
 at the time, previous to passing over to our eternal 
 home, saw her sister who had gone to that land of 
 love sixteen years prior, also her mother, who had 
 gone to our happy home two years prior, said they 
 were bidding her to come home with them, calling 
 
126 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 loudly, "Don't you see them? They are waiting for 
 me." In the room were three persons. All heard her 
 clearly and distinctly and know she was fully con- 
 scious, dalm and happy. 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Marion Mays, 
 Mount Mays, 
 Captain Mays. 
 
 This witness and the witnesses thereto were and 
 are all persons of good standing in the Presbyterian 
 Church, all of age and matured mind. Miss Katie 
 Mays sees her sister and mother who had departed 
 this life at different times, but still her own sister and 
 loving mother. They talked to her. She sees them, 
 hears them, knows them, and understands them. They 
 were persuading her to go with them home, to that 
 land of everlasting love. She wonders why those in the 
 flesh don't see them as plainly as she does. Yes, they 
 were waiting just as our dear ones will wait for us 
 when we pass over and are reborn. That which is born 
 of the flesh is flesh, but that which is born of the spirit 
 is spirit. No more flesh, but spirit. Don't you believe 
 her and them? I do. 
 
 Statement of Mrs. John Trout. 
 
 Chattanooga, Tenn., November 21, 1905. 
 I was very ill and was laid out five hours ; was con- 
 scious of all my surroundings of an earthly nature. 
 Also saw clearly and distinctly my mother who had 
 departed from this earthly life ten years before. I 
 knew her. She was just the same kind, loving mother, 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 127 
 
 only beautified and glorified. She talked to me, and 
 I could hear her and understand her perfectly. She 
 spoke to me so kindly and gave me great comfort and 
 pleasure. I am in good health now and know it was 
 my mother. My love for my children was the reason 
 for my return to earthly life. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. John Trout. 
 613 Pine St. 
 
 In this witness of the identity, individuality of the 
 spirit we have one that is now living and well, can be 
 seen and facts investigated. A lady of high Chris- 
 tian standing, perfectly honest in what she saw and 
 heard. Saw her own mother. She could not be mis- 
 taken and has no reason in making this statement, 
 only hoping that some doubter may be influenced 
 and set thinking and investigating for themselves, be 
 converted and meet her in that land of love. We have 
 also here the evidence of a mother's love. She loved 
 her children here on earth more than her mother and 
 her own happiness. 
 
 Statement of Mrs. E. A. McBride. 
 
 Orlando, Fla., November 27, 1907. 
 In September, 1890, my husband, John McBride, 
 passed over. About thirty minutes previous he seemed 
 to be looking and acting as though he saw other per- 
 sons in the room, not discernible to us. Miss Semple 
 asked me if she could not ask him what he saw. He 
 said in deep thought, hands folded as in prayer, "Yes, 
 I see my mother, and my two children, also the little 
 one that was drowned and the other, I cannot remem- 
 
128 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 ber her name." The name was Emma. His mother 
 and our four children had passed over some years 
 previous. We all considered him perfectly sane at 
 the time. 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Mrs. E. A. McBride, 
 Miss Mary Semple. 
 
 Here we have a husband and father just entering 
 that land of love, bidding farewell to those here, and 
 being welcomed and beholding those gone on be- 
 fore at the same time recognizing them each as indi- 
 viduals. A man of exceptional character, one known 
 for his truthfulness and love for his family. Don't 
 you believe he saw them? I do. Won't you? All 
 were and are people of first-class standing. 
 
 Memphis, Tenn., May 13, 1907. 
 Susan McLean, age eighty-four, passed over at 
 Memphis about five years ago. At 3 p.m., before pass- 
 ing over, she talked to her dear ones that had previ- 
 ously passed over. From 11 a.m., previous day: "I 
 am so tired, having shaken hands with so many to- 
 day. Oh, the angels are talking to me." She talked 
 to her father, mother, sister and brother and husband 
 and children. "I am glad to see you, Doctor," speak- 
 ing of her husband. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. J. K. Parther. . . 
 486 Walker St. 
 
 We have again an aged lady leaving this world 
 who had lived close to Jesus, seeing her father, and 
 mother, sisters and brothers, and also her husband 
 and children, all previously passed over. Also the 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 129 
 
 angels. "I am so glad to see you, Doctor," call- 
 ing her husband; was tired shaking hands with so 
 many. There was a host came to meet and greet her 
 and accompany her home and they were talking to 
 her. Oh, joyous meeting, joyous greeting. Could 
 you call this death? No, it is glorious birth, transi- 
 tion to a land of love with her dear ones. 
 
 Statement of M. M. Moses. 
 
 Vicksburg, Miss., March, 1907. 
 Mrs. Alary Moses, aged fifty-four years, of sound 
 mind. Illness, cancer of the breast. My mother was 
 leaning back in my arms about 9 a.m. Called to me, 
 said she wanted to bid me good-bye, as she was going 
 to leave this world, and as I was supporting her in my 
 arms, she was instructing me about our family here 
 on earth, what she wished me to say to each individual 
 one, as they were all absent at the time, when she 
 asked me if I could see that man in white clothing, 
 that was waiting for her, pointing to where he stood, 
 and asked me if I could see him ; but I could see noth- 
 ing. I was impressed that there was some one, al- 
 though I could not see anything. She stated, "Time's 
 up, good-bye," and passed out, and she insisted on 
 me kissing her good-bye. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Morris M. Moses. 
 
 Here we have the statement of a Hebrew of high 
 standing, whose affection to their parents is well 
 known. His mother in passing over was no doubt in 
 full possession of her mind and sees a man in white 
 raiment not discernible to her son, although he feels 
 his presence, and she is waiting to go with him, so he 
 
130 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 must have been pleasant to look upon. What think 
 you — was it an angel? Yes, I believe it was. 
 
 Mobile, Ala., Claybourne Ave. 
 Katharine McConnell Gordon in 1870, in passing- 
 over, said she heard the angels singing. "Oh, how 
 beautiful they sing." In 1894, Elder John Gilliard, 
 Claybourne Ave., Mobile, Ala., said to his wife's sis- 
 ter, "How beautiful the day." It was a bright day, 
 but he said "not the day here. I have glimpses of the 
 New Jerusalem. I bid you all good-bye. My Savior 
 has come for me." 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Mrs. John Gilliard, 
 Mrs. Susan Porter. 
 
 This was the passing over of a servant of Jesus 
 who had given his life to the cause of Christ his Mas- 
 ter, therefore the great honor of our Lord coming for 
 him. A man well known in the S. P. Church. 
 
 Macon, Ga v August 10, 1908. 
 In New Mexico, May, 1894, Mr. E. McCall Davis, 
 aged fifty years, disease consumption, saw his dear 
 ones, especially his son, three weeks before passing 
 over; saw his sister about two weeks. Would talk to 
 them often. Would say in the moning, "Carro, my 
 sister, has been with me all night." Saw his mother 
 and spoke to her and of her about eight hours before 
 passing over. Would say, "Is that you, Ma?" then 
 recognize her. "Oh, how beautiful you are. Yes, I 
 am all right, Ma." 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Mrs. Davis E. McCall Davis, 
 Elizabeth McCall Davis. 
 284 Orange St., Macon, Ga. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 131 
 
 This is a man of mature age — and certainly saw 
 what he claimed two and three weeks before passing" 
 over — recognized and knew them to be his own dear 
 ones and tells his wife and daughter. Do you believe 
 him and them? I do. 
 
 Mrs. L. McConnell, Atlanta, Ga., as she passed out 
 said to her sister, Mrs. Turner, who was sitting by 
 her bed, "I see Mr. Turner," — who had previously 
 passed over. The sister asked, "You do? How does 
 he look?'' She answered, "Just like himself, only his 
 face is glorified." Also saw her mother. "You may 
 think my mind is wandering, but it is not. I see them 
 just as clearly as you sitting beside my bed." 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Mrs. Ida Turner, 
 Mrs. Hurtell. 
 
 Here we have a young lady who sees her sister's 
 husband and her mother, recognizes them fully and 
 describes her brother-in-law, tells them that she can 
 see them as clearly as she does those sitting by her in 
 the flesh. Don't you think she saw them? I do. Won't 
 you believe it, too? 
 
 Selma, Ala., November 5, 1904. 
 Maria Louise Rosser passed out in February, 1904; 
 spoke to Dr. Furnase and asked him if he believed that 
 the spirit left the body and entered other spheres. He 
 said no. She said that they did, as she had seen her 
 loved ones that had passed over before, "and you will 
 have to believe it before you go." In November, pass- 
 ing out, saw her husband and called him by name, 
 
132 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 saying, "Now I am going to that happy land, and 
 Tommy is here to go with me." 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. Tanner Reese. 
 
 Here we have a lady of matured age passing over 
 that saw her husband, recognized him and said that 
 he is here to go with me. Who says they do not re- 
 tain the same love and position relative to each other? 
 
 In September, 1871, Pilmer C. Archer, at Chester- 
 field Court House, Va., was studying for the ministry 
 and was preaching fifteen miles from Richmond, Va., 
 holding a revival, and in the midst of his sermon saw 
 one of his sisters passing out. He was thirty miles 
 from the place, had received no mail. She in passing 
 out called "Brother Pilmer, can't you come before I 
 go?" He stopped in the middle of his sermon and 
 walked fifteen miles to Richmond where he received 
 his mail, stating that his sister was very ill. This was 
 the first organic news that he had. He said to the 
 congregation, "I hear my sister Rosa calling me. I 
 must go." At the same time he looked at his watch. 
 It was 12:30 a.m. She passed over about the same 
 time. Witnesses : 
 
 William Allen Archer, 
 P. W. Archer, 
 George Archer, 
 Mrs. Tanner Reese. 
 
 Standing in the pulpit in the church during a re- 
 vival, he sees his sister. Her desire was to see this 
 brother. Pie must have seen her and heard her or 
 he would not have so stated and walked fifteen miles 
 to get his mail. That he did see her and heard her is 
 proved by her passing out about the same time. All 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 133 
 
 of these witnesses were in the church at the time- 
 Do you believe him and them? I do. 
 
 Moss Point, Miss., February 9, 1907. 
 In 1903, T. G. Ezell, of Pickensville, Pickens Coun- 
 ty, Ala., aged eighty- four, member of the Baptist 
 Church, was passing over to our Master's kingdom; 
 was rational ; saw his wife and his brother, who had 
 passed over fifty-four years prior, said, "Why, here is 
 brother, that I have not seen in fifty-four years." Also 
 recognized his wife who had passed over eight years 
 prior. Said that he was in better company than with 
 those in the flesh. 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 J. P. Chapman, 
 T. P. Chapman, 
 W. C. Chapman. 
 Hansboro, Miss. 
 
 Here we have a man eighty-four years of age, a 
 member of the Baptist Church, who sees his brother 
 and is surprised to be greeted by him fifty-four years 
 after his passing over. Also his wife, and tells the 
 people around him in the flesh that he is in better com- 
 pany than they are. He was, and he knew it. 
 
 Jackson, Miss., December 16, 1906. 
 At San Antonio, Texas, May 23, 1891, Miss Mamie 
 McGill, aged twenty-two, educated at Mary Baldwin 
 Seminary, Statesboro, Va., always a truthful, pure, 
 lovely lady and child. Illness, consumption. Was per- 
 fectly conscious. She wished to send a carriage for a 
 lady friend who had made arrangements to come and 
 see her just one day before passing out. She said, "Oh, 
 the streets of New Jerusalem. How beautiful, and 
 the flowers. Don't let them touch them. I will be 
 
134 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 where they grow to-morrow." She took no opiate 
 
 and was perfectly rational. 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Mrs. W. C. Jones, 
 Mrs. Warner. 
 
 Here we have a young lady, highly educated, noted 
 for her truthfulness, that in passing over is granted 
 a view of that glorious city and the beautiful flowers, 
 one day prior to her passing over. Can we doubt it? 
 
 Statement of Mrs. H. T. Norment. 
 
 Orlando, Fla., November 29, 1907. 
 My boy baby passed over May 25, 1890. I was feel- 
 ing very sad and worried regarding my child, won- 
 dering if I should know him. About three months 
 after, I felt his presence, and looking up, saw him, 
 just the same features in perfect health and beauti- 
 fied. He smiled to me, and I felt a satisfied feeling 
 and happy and have been so ever since. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. H. T. Norment. 
 
 Here we have a mother whose baby boy seven 
 months old has passed over to that land. Three 
 months afterwards she feels the presence of her little 
 child, and looking up, sees him, clearly, distinctly, and 
 knows him to be her own baby. He looks at his 
 mother smiling, and she sees him so happy that a sat- 
 isfaction has been given her to know that he lives, 
 and is much more happy than he could be in this 
 world. She is a witness, now living, of continued life. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 135 
 
 Statement of Mrs. W. D. Harris. 
 
 Memphis, Tenn., June i, 1907. 
 Stanley Johnson Morris, aged seven months, passed 
 over May 19, 1901. I dearly loved this child, being 
 impressed that he was only lent to me (disease, chol- 
 era infantum), and when in intense pain I thought 
 he was passing out. I cried out, "Oh, baby, ask God 
 to bless mamma," and he gave a faint cry of recogni- 
 tion. I was very low with fever about two months 
 afterwards, and I asked God to bless me and send me 
 something to comfort me. He appeared to me in a 
 dream. First, I saw the passing over of my boy, just 
 as it occurred, then he returned to me. He was so 
 beautiful. He came into my arms and I pressed him 
 to my bosom, felt him clear and distinct. He looked 
 up in my face so sweetly and intensely, and as he 
 looked the expression of eyes that he had, and said 
 clearly and distinctly, "God loves mamma." Then dis- 
 appeared ; but I felt distinctly the impression of his 
 body on my arms after being fully awake ; and during 
 the fever he was near me and consoled me. 
 
 Mrs. W. D. Harris. 
 
 Here we have a mother that sees her child who was 
 only seven months old, on two occasions. Once, while 
 in dream, and then when awake. The first it seems 
 that she was under the impression that it was a dream. 
 What think you ? 
 
 Statement of Mrs. Mary Cummings. 
 
 464 Rayborn Ave., Memphis, Tenn. 
 
 My son, Logan Cummings, 1874, aged thirty-seven 
 
 years. On March 28, 1901, at St. Louis, Mo., seven 
 
 weeks after his passing over, I was lying on a couch 
 
 facing northeast in broad daylight, a beautiful, bright 
 
136 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 day about twelve o'clock; saw my son come in 
 through the east window, pass through the room; 
 saw him clearly and know it was him. He had a very 
 lustrous eye and medium stature. He recognized 
 me, I am sure, and I saw him distinctly. This was 
 after a season of prayer and asking the Master for 
 comfort, and I was fully awake at the time. 
 
 Mrs. Mary Cummings. 
 
 Here we have a mother reclining on a couch in 
 broad daylight, seeing her own son pass through the 
 room, clearly and distinctly. She recognized him and 
 knew him, and is comforted with the knowledge that 
 he lives. 
 
 Mrs. Cummings also states that her husband, Mr. 
 Homes Cummings, passed over the 25th of October, 
 1896. About two years after, saw him clearly and 
 distinctly, standing at the foot of her bed as he used 
 to do when she was sick and he in the flesh, about 
 4 a.m. When I saw him I was impressed by him that 
 he was my guardian spirit and I was fully awake and 
 saw him clearly as though he was in the flesh, only 
 beautified. Mrs. Mary M. Cummings. 
 
 864 Rayborn Ave. 
 
 This mother who was granted the privilege of see- 
 ing her son in broad daylight and recognized him, is 
 also granted the privilege of seeing her husband. She 
 sees him also in broad daylight, recognizes him and is 
 impressed that he still cares for her, loves her and 
 protects her outgoings and incomings. Are they not 
 all ministering spirits sent forth to those that shall 
 be heirs of salvation? 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 137 
 
 East Macon, Ga., April 25, 1906. 
 
 Miss Verling Everson Guerry, of East Macon, Ga., 
 
 passed over April 1, 1906. Ten days prior, saw her 
 
 mother who had passed over twenty years before. 
 
 She came into the house from the yard, and her face 
 
 looked very brilliant and seemed perfectly happy, and 
 
 said to her sister, Juliet Guerry, that she had seen her 
 
 mother, and her mother said, "My dear child, I will 
 
 come for you in a few days," and she said to her 
 
 mother, "What will Juliet do?" Her mother replied, 
 
 "I will come for her in due time." She was in her 
 
 rational mind and a lady of education and refinement ; 
 
 one noted for her truthfulness. 
 
 Witness : 
 
 _ ... ~ Miss Juliet Guerry. 
 
 East Macon, Ga. 
 
 In this witness we have one that sees and hears 
 her mother, who had previously passed over, ten days 
 before her departure from this earth when she was 
 in fair health with all her faculties. A lady of matured 
 age, well known, well loved and honored, of a lovely 
 Christian character, a member of the Presbyterian 
 Church for years. Her mother had passed over twenty 
 years prior. She sees her in broad daylight. The 
 joy of seeing her gives her great pleasure, so that her 
 very features are beautified. She is perfectly happy 
 and willing to go to that land of light and love. Note 
 the mother's word, so motherly, "My dear child, I 
 will come for you in a few days." Now note the an- 
 swer, like the apostle to our Master, "What will Juliet 
 do?" Her mother answers, "I will come for her in 
 due time." She passes over home ten days after- 
 
138 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 wards. Who says our dear, loved re-born ones don't 
 know about us on this earth and are not retained in 
 their relative positions in that other? The mother 
 from there sees and knows her daughter ; twenty 
 years' absence has made no difference, only intensified 
 the pure mother love, and knows in a few days she is 
 going to have her dear daughter with her, tells her 
 so, and as she said, so it was. Will you, dear reader, 
 be ready and joyous when your dear ones come for 
 you? I hope and pray you may. 
 
 Archer, Fla., January 22, 1908. 
 
 Miss Mary J. N. Whitner, of Sanford, Fla. Her 
 brother was in South Carolina, her husband and fam- 
 ily were sitting and reading in the hall and could see 
 her reclining on the bed about 2 p.m. She declares 
 that she was fully awake at the time, and she saw her 
 brother standing beside her and he said that he had 
 passed over. She jumped up crying that her brother 
 was dead and she had seen him, and would not be 
 pacified. Telegrams arrived afterwards, stating that 
 he had passed over about the time that she saw him. 
 
 Ernest Caldwell. 
 
 Jacksonville, Fla. 
 
 Here we have a sister who is in Florida, her 
 brother in South Carolina. She knows nothing of his 
 illness and when reclining in broad daylight, under 
 the direct view of her family, her brother appears 
 before her, she sees him, recognizes him, he recog- 
 nizes her as his sister and tells her that he has passed 
 over almost at that minute. Who says that they are 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 139 
 
 not seen by those in the flesh in broad daylight, and 
 that they do not live? 
 
 Statement of Mrs. A. K. Marshall. 
 
 Brookville, Miss., August 26, 1906. 
 On February 4, 1878, was resting by my husband 
 (this was five days after my marriage to him), when 
 his first wife, that had departed this life about two 
 years prior, appeared to me, and pushed me from him. 
 She was clothed in white and looked beautiful. I 
 awoke my husband, who was asleep, and I told him 
 and described her. He said the description was ex- 
 act. He showed me her picture afterward and I am 
 satisfied it was his first wife. I had not previously 
 known her nor had I seen a picture of her. When she 
 pushed me I positively felt her hands, and they were 
 very cold. Mrs. A. K. Marshall. 
 
 Here we have a young wife, full of earthly life and 
 joy, not looking for nor expecting any spiritual ex- 
 perience, in perfect health, close beside the man she 
 loved. She sees and feels a living soul, one that she 
 has never known or seen, who pushes her away from 
 her husband. She saw that the lady was not flesh and 
 blood as we are, and her robes are white, and she is 
 much more beautiful than earthly women. Although 
 the living soul does not speak, still she knows who it 
 is by her spiritual impression, awakes her husband 
 and describes who and what she saw and felt. By 
 her description he is assured it was his first wife, and 
 shows her his first wife's picture. She recognizes in 
 the photograph the same individuality that had 
 
140 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 pushed her from her husband. Note. She also states 
 that she felt her hands when she pushed her, and they 
 were positively cold; so you see they still love us 
 and claim the same relationship in the other sphere. 
 In other words, our wives here will be our wives in 
 eternity. 
 
 Statement of Mr. Jno. A. Lowry. 
 
 Dalton, Ga., July 25, 1906. 
 On the 8th of May, 1906, my daughter, Miss Cor- 
 nelia Lowry, aged twenty-two, was preparing to go 
 as a missionary to China. A young lady of excellent 
 Christian character, she joined the Presbyterian Church 
 at the age of twelve years, was noted for her truth- 
 fulness and kindness and loving nature, was passing 
 over and seemed to have passed out. There were no 
 pulsations nor any evidences of life in the body that 
 could be discerned. Revived in about one-fourth hour 
 and said, "I have come back to bid you good-by. The 
 old and the young are over there, the same as they 
 are here. I heard them singing, and the angels sing- 
 ing. Oh, the sweetest singing I ever heard, and 
 Anna is the sweetest singer of them all." Anna was 
 her younger sister, who had passed over at the age of 
 eighteen months, sixteen years prior. Then she said, 
 "Oh, happy angels, why don't you come. They are 
 coming now," and passed out. 
 
 Witnesses : 
 
 Mr. Jno. A. Lowry, 
 Mrs. A. E. Lowry, 
 E. P. Freeman, 
 Mr. C. A. Richardson. 
 
 In the statement of Mr. John A. Lowry, we have a 
 lady of perfect attainments and character, a Christian 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 141 
 
 from childhood, educated for a missionary, whose 
 living soul was absent from her body about fifteen 
 minutes. During that time she was in our Master's 
 kingdom, saw her dear ones, also the angels; recog- 
 nized her own sister, and heard her singing more 
 sweetly than the angels. What a glorious missionary 
 trip ! This was what our dear Father and Master 
 and the holy angels educated her for. It was a 
 quicker and far more reaching trip than she could 
 have made, had she gone to China — a true witness 
 for Jesus, a true missionary to all the world, espe- 
 cially to us Americans, as so many are losing sight 
 of that land of love and the testimonies of their dear 
 ones. It seems although her return was brief, yet 
 when she beheld her dear ones on earth and earthly 
 surroundings she also lost sight of the angel host 
 that was with her; also that there was a prearrange- 
 ment with the angels that they were to take her again 
 to that land of love. Note, also, that she states that 
 the old and the young are there, the same as here. 
 That is, each one carries his or her individuality, 
 features and form. Yea, even the age shows, but 
 all are beautiful. Notice the expression, "I have come 
 back to bid you good-by." She had just been there, 
 and just came back to bid them good-by. Knowing 
 that she was going to live in that land of love, her 
 work on earth was finished, and now she enjoys the 
 fruits of her labors, and will throughout all eternity. 
 
142 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Dear reader, if you fail to heed such witnesses as 
 these, how woeful will be your state. Can you doubt 
 her bidding good-by to her dear earthly friends, 
 mother and father, and all? Then can you doubt 
 the four witnesses who heard her clearly and dis- 
 tinctly ? 
 
 Rev. E. H. Bonnett, D.D., Atlanta, Ga., pastor of 
 the First Presbyterian Church, when passing over, 
 said to his wife, " Carrie, there are no valleys nor 
 shadows ; it is all sunshine." 
 
 This brother, like Moody, testifies there are no val- 
 leys. Like Moody, he had served the Lord for manv 
 years ; like Moody and Stonewall Jackson, he sees 
 that land of glory and bears witness to the partner 
 of his life. 
 
 Statement of Mrs. Dr. H. E. Leough. 
 
 507 West Bay St., Tampa, Fla., Nov. 6, 1907. 
 Mrs. Mary A. Blowers, aged seventy, residing at 
 corner of Florida Ave. and Taylor St., passed over 
 the 25th of October, 1902. Had high fevers and was 
 wide awake. Saw her husband, Warren N. Blow r er, 
 who had passed over seven years; prior. He came to 
 her bedside and said, "Mary, I have come to take you 
 to heaven, to hear the heavenly music." She said 
 that he took her hand and led her up a beautiful stair- 
 way. Before they reached the top she could hear the 
 lovely music. Her husband also took her to a beau- 
 tiful spring and they bathed in it. 
 Witness : 
 
 Mrs. Dr. H. E. Lough. 
 
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 Here the husband comes from that land of love and 
 takes his dear wife to that land. She hears the music, 
 and bathes in the water of life. What do you think 
 of it? Don't you think she knew him — was with him, 
 as she describes ? I do. I know it by my own expe- 
 rience. 
 
 Dwight L. Moody, before passing over, said: "I 
 am going out of this old tenement, going up higher 
 into a house that is immortal, into a body that death 
 cannot touch, sin cannot taint, a body fashioned unto 
 his glorious body. Earth is receding, heaven is ap- 
 proaching. God's holy angels are calling me. This 
 is glorious ! If this is death, there is no valley. I 
 have been within the gates, and I have seen the chil- 
 dren, Erene and Dwight." These were his two grand- 
 children that had passed over. 
 
 Here was a man nigh unto an apostle, one who was 
 close to Jesus and worked for Jesus and salvation of 
 spirits. He says, "There is no valley.'' He had been 
 within the gates. He had seen his two beloved grand- 
 children. Of all his sermons, this is the grandest, 
 as it should be, being his last. You believed him in 
 other subjects? Oh, pray, believe him in this. 
 
 Statement of Prof. A. M. C. Brasch. 
 
 722 E. Church St., Jacksonville, Fla. 
 In the year 1901 I went to a Holiness church, at 
 Chicago, heard a sermon which brought me under 
 just a strong conviction, that I could hardly wait un- 
 
144 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 til the end of the sermon. The sermon came to a close 
 and I went forward and bowed before the altar and 
 tried to pray ; but as soon as I started I fell back- 
 ward and was stiff. This was about n.30, and in this 
 state I was taken into the anteroom of the church, 
 where I came to about 5.45 ; but before I came to I 
 saw my body of clay on the sofa. Afterwards I saw 
 that the room was black, black like velvet, and by and 
 by I saw that in the upper side in the room came a 
 little light, as large as a chicken eye, and it grew very 
 fast until it soon became a bright light. In that con- 
 dition I came to, and went into the preaching room 
 shouting and happy, walking up and down the room 
 over the chairs. Preacher and other members pres- 
 ent followed, and oh, what a glorious time it was, 
 and no one is able to-day to get me back into the 
 world, no never. Praise the Lord for making me a 
 witness for Him. 
 
 Here we have a professor, a learned German stu- 
 dent, who sees his body, that is, carnal body, a sepa- 
 rate part from his true self. Also a light, which we 
 cannot explain, unless, as I have often seen when in a 
 clairvoyant trance state, bright objects from the size 
 of a ten-cent silver coin to as large as an electric bulb, 
 of different shapes, moving in different directions by 
 their own power, enclosed in a film, sometimes chang- 
 ing their colors, first, bright, like a diamond, then like 
 an electric light, then yellow, green, blue, red and 
 crimson, vibrating very rapidly within themselves. Of 
 one thing I am satisfied, that they are spirits. July 5, 
 1909, one came within three feet of my face, and re- 
 mained stationary for what seemed one minute, and I 
 
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 could see a face — a human face — in it, clear and dis- 
 tinct. But the main point is that he recognized his 
 carnal body as a separate body from his true self. 
 
 Statement of Mrs. Ella M. Brasch. 
 
 722 E. Church St., Jacksonville, Fla. 
 In the year 1903 I was attending a camp meeting, 
 and seemingly I was enjoying myself spiritually, and 
 felt that I was about as good as those of my brothers 
 and sisters in the church, when one Sunday morning 
 I was in the testimony meeting and I arose to give 
 my experience. When I was nearly ready to sit down 
 one of our brothers said to me: "Sister, there is 
 something the matter with you. You must get right 
 with God." I stood perfectly astonished for a mo- 
 ment, and then sat down; but those words kept ring- 
 ing in my ears that I must get right with God. The 
 first opportunity that I had I went straight to the 
 altar, and began to pray. I soon realized that I had 
 lost my second blessing, and with sorrow I cried to 
 God for mercy. It was not long until I found peace ; 
 but while I still was lingering at the altar, it seemed 
 like some one put their hand on my head and pulled 
 me over, and I was stretched out on the floor of the 
 tent from about half-past two in the evening. I was 
 lost to this world until after eight o'clock in the even- 
 ing. I was first in darkness traveling all alone. On 
 and on I went, swift as I could go. I did not know 
 where I was going, being in such dense darkness, 
 and after I had traveled quite a distance, it being still 
 dark on my left side, at a little distance I heard 
 groans, cries and kind of screeching, distressing 
 noise which none can make, only those who suffer, 
 and was much alarmed ; but I traveled on. Very 
 soon after that I saw the light, and as I hurried along 
 the way, it got lighter and lighter and some one came 
 to me, accompanying me. I did not see nor recognize 
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146 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 my friend at all, who it might have been, but any way 
 it kept getting into a most beautiful place and went 
 through a beautiful arbor decked with gold and dia- 
 monds, and lovely colors of different kinds, and still 
 on we went and the scenery more beautiful every step 
 we took. I kept looking forward, and seeing things 
 were so glorious we came where I could see the pearly 
 towers of heaven all trimmed in gold, and I saw the 
 beautiful gates ajar, and I thought they were open 
 for me, but my friend said, "No, not now." He said 
 
 1 must go back to earth, that my work must be fin- 
 ished first, so all passed over, and I was again like 
 myself, only so happy. Glory, glory to God. 
 
 Mrs. Ella M. Brasch. 
 
 She no doubt experienced dissociation and saw just 
 what she said she did. That light has been seen by 
 many. She was granted a sight of one of those lovely 
 gates, and traveled the great highway to glory. 
 
 Jacksonville, Fla. 
 
 Dissociation of Louis Stephens, a jeweler, on Main 
 Street, near Bay, steward in the M. E. Church, South, 
 Jacksonville, Fla. 
 
 In 1896, during an epidemic of typhoid fever in 
 Jacksonville he was attacked with it and after being 
 cared for and nursed at his home by family and doc- 
 tors, and he seemed to be sinking gradually, the doc- 
 tors concluded that if they had him in the St. Luke's 
 Hospital, where all appliances would be convenient, 
 and the best of nurses near, they might continue his 
 life. So he was transferred to the hospital. Three 
 days after being there he seemed to pass out, or, as the 
 doctors decided, he was dead. He was laid out about 
 
 2 o'clock a.m., and removed to the room where they 
 keep corpses. About 3 o'clock he revived, and told the 
 doctors and nurses that he had been out to his father's 
 place, his old home, about two hundred miles west of 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 147 
 
 Jacksonville, and when he came near there he saw a 
 light in his brother John's room. He entered the 
 room. His brother John was lying on a bed. The 
 doctor and nephew, John's son, were giving his 
 brother John some medicine, and the doctor said that 
 this was his last hope. They had to pry his mouth 
 open to get the medicine in. His second wife was in 
 the room kneeling by the bed with her youngest child 
 crying, "Oh, oh, what shall I do?" when there ap- 
 peared on the right side of the bed his first wife, who 
 had passed over twenty years prior ; also on the left his 
 daughter, who had passed over ten years prior ; also an 
 angel, beautiful to behold, and they were talking to his 
 brother John about a beautiful and lovely land, our 
 Master's kingdom, and persuading him to come out of 
 his carnal body and go with them. He, Louis Stephens, 
 stepped up to the angel and asked him if he could not 
 go, too, to that land with them. The angel kindly in- 
 formed him that he was to return to his body and be a 
 living witness of the identity and individuality of the 
 spirit. Just then the clock struck two-thirty. He 
 heard the clock and noticed it was a new one, and a 
 cuckoo came out and called the hour. At the same 
 moment his brother John came out of his body and 
 was clothed like the others from that land of beauty 
 in a robe of pure white. They all gathered around 
 him, and they drifted away to that land of glory. He 
 then came back to his body. After telling the doctor 
 this, the doctor said, "I am sorry for you, Stephen; 
 your body has been here all the time. You have lost 
 your mind. Now be quiet." The doctor then sent 
 for his family, that is his wife and his son, John, 
 and when they came he started to tell them of his 
 experience, telling them he would get well, but his 
 brother John had passed over at two-thirty. His son 
 John told him that he knew his uncle was sick, but 
 they had received a telegram that he was better last 
 evening. They had not told him, Louis Stephens, for 
 fear of the effect it would have on him; but the son 
 
148 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 said, "Father, you have lost your mind. Now lie 
 down and be calm and you may get well, yet." Just 
 then a telegram was brought by a boy, addressed to 
 his son. "Your uncle John died at two-thirty this 
 morning." 
 
 Now, here we have another old veteran whose body 
 was certainly what doctors call dead, and he must 
 have certainly been absent from that body in the hos- 
 pital to see what he saw and relate what occurred 
 two hundred miles west of there. First, the sickness 
 of his brother, that he knew nothing of; second, his 
 seeing the doctor and his brother John, prying his 
 brother John's mouth open, and the remarks of the 
 doctor. He also sees his brother John's wife in the 
 flesh and hears her mourning. He sees also the first 
 wife, who had passed over twenty years prior, and his 
 niece, who had passed over ten years, also an angel 
 of the Most High, and recognizes him as such ; lis- 
 tens to their conversation and understands it. He no- 
 tices the exact time that his brother John passed out 
 by the new clock and the peculiarities of the clock. 
 All these things occurred, and were just as seen by 
 him. How do you suppose he knew it if his living 
 soul was not absent from his body, and at his old 
 home two hundred miles west of where his carnal 
 body lay, and understood perfectly as he claims to 
 have done ? There is no doubt but what he experienced 
 dissociation. He also recognized himself as an indi- 
 vidual identity from the others, sees those in the flesh 
 
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 as well as the angel and his brother's first wife and 
 his niece and his brother in the flesh, then in the spirit, 
 as separate individuals, and recognizes their relative 
 relations to each other. This is a grand witness of 
 the spiritual birth of man and a continuance of life 
 of fourteen years, and if he proves a true witness of 
 Jesus will receive his reward in that land of love. 
 
 The Early Fathers. 
 
 Bede, born 673, passed over 735. In the monastery 
 of Jarrow on the Tyne his ecclesiastical history is well 
 known, also his commentaries, especially his transla- 
 tion of St. John, which he was finishing at the time of 
 his passing over. "Go on rapidly," he said to his as- 
 sistant. "I know not how long I shall hold out or how 
 soon the Master will send his angels for me." Just 
 as he had finished he looked up and exclaimed, "Oh, 
 the brightness of their coming. How sweet their 
 music," and his face beautified and glorified, passed 
 over. 
 
 St. Anthony, in one of his sermons, says, "We walk 
 in the midst of demons who give us evil thoughts 
 and also in the midst of good angels who give us 
 heavenly thoughts. When these latter are especially 
 present there is no disturbance, no contention, no 
 clamor, but something so calm and gentle that it fills 
 our soul with gladness. The Lord is my witness that 
 after many tears and fasting, I have been surrounded 
 
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 by a band of good angels, and spirits, and joyfully 
 joined in singing with them." (This is one of the 
 early fathers. What think you of him?) 
 
 Tertullian tells us there is a sister among us who 
 possesses a faculty of revelation. Commonly during a 
 religious service she falls into a trance, holding com- 
 munion with angels, beholding Jesus himself when 
 the Scriptures are read or Psalms sung; spiritual be- 
 ings minister to her. We were speaking of the soul 
 once when our sister was in the spirit. She communi- 
 cated to us what she had seen in her ecstasy. She 
 declared that she had seen a soul in bodily shape that 
 appeared to be a spirit neither entity nor formless, 
 but so substantial that it might be touched. It was 
 tender, shining, of the color of the air, but in every- 
 thing resembled the human form. 
 
 Ignatius, native of Syria, pupil of Polycarp declares : 
 "Some in the church most certainly have divine knowl- 
 edge of things to come. Some have visions, often 
 other prophecies, and heal the sick by laying on of 
 hands and others speak in many tongues, bring to 
 light the soul of men and angels and expounding the 
 mysteries of God." I might quote Clement of Rome, 
 Barnabas, Pappus, Justin, Appolonarius, Cyprian, Lac- 
 tantius and other early fathers. Montanus of Phyrgia 
 affirms that these powers are the inherited right of 
 every true Christian, and quotes where there is no 
 vision the people perish. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 151 
 
 Emanuel Swedenborg, 1743: "I have, says he, 
 "for these twenty years or more conversed daily with 
 spirits and angels. They have human forms, the ap- 
 pearance of men and I have a thousand times seen, 
 for I have spoken with them as man with other men, 
 often with several together.'' 
 
 Dr. Adam Clarke, the great commentator, in com- 
 menting upon Saul and Samuel (see his Com., pp. 
 298 and 299) : "I believe Samuel did actually appear 
 to Saul, and he was sent to warn the infatuated king 
 of the approach of his death, that he might have an 
 opportunity to make his peace with his God. I be- 
 lieve there is a supernatural or spiritual world, in 
 which human spirits, both good and bad, live in a 
 state of consciousness. I believe that any of these 
 spirits may according to the order of God, in the laws 
 of their place of residence, have intercourse with this 
 world and become visible to mortals." Don't you think 
 he saw them? Some do. 
 
 Some of the Present Time. 
 
 Harriet Beecher Stowe: "One of the dearest and 
 most operative cravings of the human heart, as it fol- 
 lows its beloved one beyond the veil, is to feel some 
 assurance that they still love and care for us. They 
 have overcome, have risen, are crowned, glorified, 
 but still they remain to us our comforters and in every 
 hour of darkness their voice speaks to us ; sweet souls 
 
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 around us watch us, press nearer to our side, into our 
 thoughts, into our prayers, with gentle helping guide. 
 We hold to the belief in the unbroken unity between 
 those who have passed to a higher life than this. We 
 hold to that living faith in things which was the 
 strength of the primitive Christians. The first Chris- 
 tians believed what they said. We do not. The un- 
 seen spiritual world, its angels and archangels and 
 saints and martyrs, its purity and its joy, were ever 
 before them, and that is why they were such a mighty 
 force in the world. St. Augustine says that it was the 
 vision of the saints gone before that inspired them 
 with courage and contempt of death, and it is true." 
 Rev. B. L. Austin, M.A., LL.D., Canada: "I have 
 seen again and again these phenomena produced, their 
 voices from the angel world caught their living words 
 of instruction and impression fresh from angelic lips, 
 seen their forms materializing and de-materializing 
 like a cloud vanishing from sight and held them by 
 the hand." 
 
 There is no death! an angel form 
 
 Walks o'er the earth with silent tread. 
 
 He bears our best-loved things away, 
 And then we call them dead. 
 
 — E. Buhver Lytton. 
 
 There is no death. What seems so is transition. 
 
 This life of mortal breath 
 Is but a suburb of life Elysian, 
 
 Whose portals we call death. 
 
 ■ — Longfelloiv, 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 153 
 
 Abbott, on death : The Rev. Lyman Abbott, succes- 
 sor to Henry Ward Beecher, says, in a late sermon 
 on the transfiguration : "Death and the resurrection 
 are simultaneous. The separation between earth and 
 heaven is a narrow partition and death is but the 
 swinging of the doors, and the dead are living, more 
 truly living than we, and living and often close at 
 hand. So close that we are surrounded by them as 
 by a cloud of witnesses. So close that the evil spirits 
 breathe into our souls pestiferous imaginations and 
 blasphemous thoughts. So close that we have need to 
 arm ourselves to fight, not merely against flesh and 
 blood, but also against the prince of the power of the 
 air, against wicked spirits in high places. So close, 
 too, that mothers still keep watch and ward over their 
 children and the friend still serves by subtle influence 
 as guide and inspiration of his friend. Oh, mother, 
 lay down at last your weary burden and only too 
 gladly lay it down, but that you cannot bear to be 
 separated from the children whose strength is so 
 small and whose need is so great. Who has ever told 
 you that you are to be separated from them? They 
 shall be separated seeming from you, but you shall 
 not be separated from them. If you ask, "On what 
 do I base this belief, how do I know that it is not a 
 fancy?' I answer, partly on intuition, partly on rea- 
 son, intimations and suggestion of Scripture, and 
 partly on the all but universal belief of the world in 
 
154 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 spirits and spirit communications. Excepting this con- 
 ception of the spirit world as a world all about us, 
 as a world in which we live, as a world in which we 
 are separated only by our own dullness of sense and 
 heaviness of vision, the story of the transfiguration 
 ceases to be a strange incident, a breaking in upon the 
 order of nature and the supernatural. It will seem 
 rather strange that many, many of the followers of 
 Christ haven't known a like experience of communion 
 with the sainted and risen dead." 
 
 Sir Oliver Lodge, F.R.S., Dr., S.C., LL.B., pro- 
 fessor of physics, Binghampton University, Eng- 
 land, says : "I believe in one infinite and eternal being, 
 a guiding and loving Father, in whom all things con- 
 sist. I believe that the divine nature is especially re- 
 vealed to man through Jesus Christ our Lord, who 
 lived and taught and suffered in Palestine nineteen 
 hundred years ago, and who has since been worshiped 
 by the Christian church as the immortal Son of God, 
 the Savior of the world. I believe that the Holy Spirit 
 is ever ready to help us along the way towar^i good- 
 ness and truth, that prayer is a means of communion 
 between men and God, and that it is our privilege 
 through faithful service to enter into the life eternal, 
 the communion of saints, and the peace of God." 
 
 Dr. J. M. Peebles, M.D., M.A., Ph.D. : "Personally 
 I know that the dead are alive — know that friends de- 
 parted live and manifest to us ; still know by* careful 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 155 
 
 observation and patient experience, in connection with 
 reason and my best judgment, that the angels of God 
 are about us and administer to us. It is knowledge 
 that I can rejoice in saying with the apostle, "For 
 we know that if the earthly hours of our tabernacle 
 were dissolved we have a building of God, a house 
 not made with hands eternal in the heavens." Possi- 
 bly some narrow-minded person may solemnly say "I 
 have never seen the spiritual manifestations." Quite 
 likely. Millions have not seen the seas and lakes upon 
 the planet Mars, nor the telescope that discovered 
 them. Others have not seen Santiago, London or Cal- 
 cutta. The more the pity. Ignorance, whether church- 
 anic or agnostic, ought to be very modest. What 
 individuals have not seen, does not enter into the 
 moral quotation for determining truth. Premonta- 
 tions, hypnotism, telepathy, transvision, clairvoyance, 
 psychometry, and other varied spirit phenomena are 
 all about us, and to ignore them without the most 
 candid, critical investigation is the shabbiest sort of 
 self-stupefaction. Having witnessed levitation, a hu- 
 man being floating in the air at high noon, himself 
 and myself in the room alone, I am quite prepared to 
 believe that the spirit of the Lord caught Philip from 
 the sight of the eunuch, leaving him in a far-off 
 azotas. Having seen a medium's hand put by the 
 entrancing spirit into the full blaze of a kerosene lamp 
 and held there unburned, I am able all the more to 
 
156 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 believe that Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego 
 walked in the fiery furnace — the form of the fourth 
 as a protecting shield in their midst. Having wit- 
 nessed spirit writing in the air as well as upon walls 
 by a vanishing spirit hand, all the more readily do I 
 accept the recorded account of the fingers of a man's 
 hand mysteriously writing upon the wall in Belshaz- 
 zar's palace. Soundly said the most distinguished of 
 the Beechers, "Modern spirit manifestations strength- 
 en the faith, higher spirituality and higher Christian- 
 ity as one love, is Christ's test of Christianity in Christ 
 Jesus, who was the first born among many brethren." 
 "We know," said the beloved John, "that we have 
 passed from death unto life, because we love the 
 brethren." "Pure love is the divine seal of Christian 
 discipleship." 
 
 UNION IN THE SPIRIT. 
 
 Different nets of numerous twine 
 
 Catch many fish of many kinds. 
 Different creeds of numerous lines, 
 
 Win many men of different minds. 
 
 All saving creeds lay hold of men ; 
 
 More men are saved in heaven. What then? 
 All we that love the Lord will meet 
 
 At home above, at Jesus' feet. 
 
 Who then is he who dares to say, 
 All must be saved in our own way ? 
 
 Seek ye the truth from God above, 
 Cherish the faith that lives bv love. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 157 
 
 To love each other let us learn, 
 
 To bear as we by Christ are borne ; 
 
 To love our Father, all in all ; 
 
 And those whom we our brothers call. 
 
 Through Christ alone we reach our home 
 
 By whatsoever road we come. 
 All praise to Christ's eternal love. 
 
 Family circles all one above. 
 
 Captain J. F. Chase, St. Petersburg, Fla. : "On 
 the battlefield of Gettysburg, with picket shots break- 
 ing the stillness of the night, I accepted Christ's invi- 
 tation, and went a few rods in the rear of my cannon 
 and knelt down by the side of a large rock and made 
 my first prayer. I told the good God all my troubles 
 and asked him to forgive my sins ; and friends, Christ 
 did just as he promised to do. He took the heavy 
 burden from me. When I rose from my knees I was 
 a very different boy than I was when I knelt down. 
 I felt light as a bird; all the darkness and doubts had 
 disappeared, and I was rejoicing in God's holy light. 
 I felt that all was well with me, and I had no fear of 
 the beyond. On the second day of July we had several 
 severe battles on different parts of that bloody field. 
 In the afternoon and early evening the Confederates 
 charged on our batteries on East Seminary hill. The 
 fire on our battery, the Fifth Maine, was very severe. 
 The enemy knew that our battery was the only bat- 
 tery, on account of our position, that could enfilade 
 their charging column, so they opened a fire on us 
 
158 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 with two batteries from Berner's Hill, supposing that 
 we would reply to their shots; but we took their fire 
 and enfiladed their column as they charged up East 
 Seminary Hill. About that time one of their snapper 
 shells exploded about four feet from me, and I re- 
 ceived forty-eight pieces of that shell. My good right 
 arm was shattered and torn from my body, my left 
 eye torn out, my shoulders and breasts were lacerated 
 in forty-eight places, my lungs were pierced and sev- 
 eral ribs broken. 
 
 Now, friend, you will hardly believe what I tell you 
 as my experience the two days while I lay on the bat- 
 tlefield as dead. I am no believer in spiritualism, only 
 the spirit or that part which never dies that God gives 
 to each one of us as we are born into this world. 
 As two of my comrades carried me back and laid my 
 body by the side of the rock where I had knelt the 
 night before, the body was dead; but that part that 
 never dies, the spirit, was hovering over the body. I 
 looked down at the body and I could see just how 
 I was wounded, and see how my clothing was blown 
 from my body just as plain as I see to-day. It seemed 
 that my spirit was drawn upwards out of the sight 
 of earth, and I thought if this is death it is ten thou- 
 sand times better to die than to live. I was perfectly 
 happy. I was taken to a very beautiful place where all 
 was peace and joy. I do not think it was heaven, but 
 the border land of heaven. It seemed that the good 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 159 
 
 God had not forgotten that soldier boy, but was giv- 
 ing him a glimpse of that eternal life that he had asked 
 for. It seemed to me that while I was in the spirit 
 land there was a spiritual substance to everything I 
 came in contact with. There is no language to con- 
 vey to you what I saw and enjoyed. I know now 
 that I was not permitted to see nor to understand 
 many things, as I was only a very welcome guest for 
 a short time. While I was perfectly happy and con- 
 tented where I was, there seemed to be a far more 
 beautiful place where I could hear the most heavenly 
 music; but between me and that there seemed to be 
 a thin veil or mist that I could not see through. While 
 I saw many of the inhabitants of the spirit land I did 
 not see anyone that I knew in this world. At the 
 same time we all seemed to know each other as one 
 great family. My visit to that heavenly land was too 
 short to suit me. My spirit came back to my body 
 two days after I was wounded. I was picked up with 
 the dead. As they took me out of the wagon to bury 
 me in the trench with the dead, they found I had a 
 spark of life. They gave me a drink of water. They 
 said the first words I uttered were, "Did we win the 
 
 battle?" T _ n 
 
 J. T. Chase. 
 
 St. Petersburg, Fla. 
 
 Xow here we have another veteran soldier who fell 
 on the battlefield of Gettysburg, wounds caused b) 
 
160 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 bursting of a shell within four feet of him. He did 
 not lose all knowledge, as it were, of his surround- 
 ings — but has a knowledge of seeing his body, clear 
 and distinct, and just how and where he was wound- 
 ed and the torn and soiled condition of his clothing. 
 Notice, he himself, the true I, is floating above the 
 body and looking down upon it. Also, please note 
 that his body lay for two days on that battlefield 
 where he was considered dead. He also states that 
 if what he experienced was death, it was ten thousand 
 times better than living; also that all things in that 
 land had a spiritual substance. He was perfectly hap- 
 py. He also saw many of the inhabitants of that land. 
 This was a case of dissociation of the elements of the 
 body. What think you of it? He is now living in 
 fair health, a leading business man of the city, and can 
 be, as well as many other of the witnesses, consulted 
 with. He is also a leading member of the church — 
 well loved, and a gentleman of high standing. 
 
 TO THE ANGELS. 
 
 Come angels! I would join thy throng: 
 
 Just waft my living soul along: 
 I long to hear thy heavenly song 
 
 And join its roundelay. 
 
 I'd see the city of my King, 
 
 Its gates, its mansions, everything; 
 
 Those lovely robes of cream and gold 
 That seraphs' queenly forms enfold. 
 
 I'd love to note the kingly mien 
 Of those who see as they are seen, 
 
 And in green pastures softly tread, 
 As by still waters I was lead. 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 161 
 
 And O such glory fills my soul; 
 
 Great waves of gladness o'er me roll, 
 As Jesus, Savior, toward me hies, 
 
 To wipe the moisture from my eyes! 
 
 Then guard me round, angelic host, 
 Protect from all the spirits lost, 
 
 Xo matter at what worldly cost, 
 Lead to eternal day. 
 
 A. Phinney. 
 
 Dr. Duncan McDougal, member of the Massachu- 
 setts Medical Society, has astonished the world — that 
 is, he and his associates, Dr. John Sproule, house 
 physician for the hospital, Dr. William Victor Grant, 
 and Dr. Harry Emons, of Jamaica Plain — by the state- 
 ment that he has succeeded in weighing the living 
 soul of man. The subject is placed on elevated 
 scales and he ascertains that the moment the spirit 
 and soul leave the body the scales drop immediately 
 from one ounce to one half an ounce, according to 
 the subject. A number of tests have been made, prov- 
 ing the fact. He says that the spirit must be a space 
 occupying body, also that the soul substance is so fine 
 that it cannot be confined by any known material. 
 He is of the opinion that it resembles the X-ray, 
 which will pass through the most dense substances. 
 Also the soul being substance that can be weighed, has 
 gravity, and, being a bodily substance, can rise like 
 a balloon. It is different from the body material. He 
 is right as far as he goes. It is certainly a gaseous 
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162 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 substance, the full form of the person, and as the 
 weight is only one ounce or one half ounce and still 
 the same size of the man it is much lighter than air, 
 and if he only knew it, the soul is lighter than the 
 spirit. Without soul the spirit is held by gravitation 
 in the earth according to its impurity, while if the 
 spirit is fully or partly clothed upon with soul, it can 
 float or drift to the highest spheres — in fact, visit all 
 spheres in space, if fully clothed upon with soul. 
 
 Astral Excursions, 
 by franz hartmann, m.d. 
 
 It seems that at the present state of human evolu- 
 tion a considerable development on psychic capacities 
 is taking place in Europe and America. Persons who 
 never heard of spiritualism or occultism find them- 
 selves, to their own surprise, in possession of occult 
 powers, and while the scientists quarrel about the 
 theory which admits the existence of an astral body 
 the number of people increases who are capable of 
 leaving their physical forms and making excursions 
 in the astral body or dream body of whose existence 
 they never heard. Thus, for instance, a lady of my 
 acquaintance writes me from Berlin as follows: 
 
 "The gentleman to whom I am engaged to be mar- 
 ried has been an officer, but he has left the army. 
 Shortly before that event, having retired at night, 
 he found himself suddenly standing in the midst of 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 163 
 
 his room while his physical body was in his bed. The 
 situation seemed rather strange to him, as he had 
 never heard of such things. 
 
 "He walked about the room, looked at the different 
 objects for the purpose of convincing himself that he 
 was still in possession of his reason; he went to his 
 desk and read in a book that was lying open upon it, 
 but in spite of his efforts to turn a page he was un- 
 able to turn it. He then went to the window, looked 
 out in the street, saw the lanterns and gaslights flick- 
 ering; in short, he saw in this condition everything 
 just as it appeared to him in his natural state. It 
 then occurred to him that he was in his spiritual body 
 and he wondered whether it would be possible for 
 him to pass through a solid wall. He tried it and 
 found himself in an adjoining room, where he saw 
 one of his comrades sitting at a table and making a 
 drawing. In vain he tried to call his attention. He 
 touched him, spoke to him, breathed upon him; but 
 his friend continued his work without taking notice 
 of all this. My betrothed felt very sorry because he 
 could not make his presence known, and returned to 
 his rooms, where he saw his body still lying on the 
 bed, immovable as before. He then went through the 
 closed window out into the street and went to the rail- 
 way station, where he saw the people and the shifting 
 of trains. Finally he came to a tunnel, which he en- 
 tered and saw some! working men at their labor. He 
 
164 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 had never been in that tunnel and did not know of 
 its existence. Returning to his room, he saw his 
 servant open the door and enter. The servant seemed 
 to sniff the air and hurriedly went to the bed, shak- 
 ing the body of his master, while the latter stood by 
 the side of it looking at the procedure. The servant 
 then tore open the window. The officer awoke owing 
 to a sensation of cold, and asked the servant what was 
 the matter. The servant replied that there was coal 
 gas in the room and that it seemed to him that the 
 Herr Lieutenant was dead. Upon being asked what 
 caused him to return to the sleeping room at that hour, 
 he said he had suddenly been overcome by a feeling 
 that he ought to return, to look once more after the 
 stove. It is clear that, if the servant had not returned, 
 the officer would have died, and the spirit could not 
 have returned into the body. The next day he went 
 to the tunnel, where he found everything as he had 
 seen it during the night, and he also convinced himself 
 that his friend was in the adjoining room, was making 
 the drawing, but with all this he still does not believe 
 in a continuation of conscious individual existence af- 
 ter death." 
 
 To this I may be permitted to add a similar exper- 
 ience of my own which I had in Colombo, Ceylon, in 
 1884. I went with a friend to a dentist to have a 
 tooth extracted. I took chloroform, and after getting 
 under its influence I soon saw myself standing be- 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 165 
 
 side the dentist's chair, in which my body was lying. 
 I appeared to myself just the same person as when in 
 my normal state. I saw all the objects in the room, 
 heard all that was spoken ; but when I tried to lift 
 one of the instruments on the little table next to the 
 chair, I could not do so, as my fingers passed through 
 it. Since then I have occasionally seen myself step- 
 ping out of my physical form, and this occurs in two 
 ways, viz: if, while the separation takes place my 
 consciousness is centered in the physical body, I see 
 myself in the astral body standing before me at the 
 side of the bed, and if my consciousness is the center 
 of the astral body, I see my physical form lying in 
 the bed. I have never made consciously any astral 
 excursions to distant places, but such experiences may 
 be sufficient to convince one that man has an astral 
 body capable of existence independent of the physical 
 form, and to those who have experienced such things 
 the doubts of those who have experienced nothing may 
 appear quite as unworthy of consideration, as would 
 the arguments of one who had never seen railways 
 and were in consequence to deny their existence. 
 
 Exploration by the World Invisible, 
 by camille flammarion. 
 
 It is absolutely certain that one soul can influence 
 another soul at a distance and without the aid of the 
 senses. Many dying people, I know, have been told 
 
166 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 by telepathic communications, by aspirations subjec- 
 tive or objective, called by voices they distinctly heard, 
 by songs, noises and movements and impressions of 
 different kinds. We can have no doubt on this point; 
 the soul can act at a distance. Mental suggestions 
 seems equally certain; psychic communications be- 
 tween persons who are living is also proved by a large 
 number of cases that have been observed and re- 
 ported. There are psychic occurrences as well as 
 aerial and electric currents. Telepathy is nothing 
 new. It held a foremost place in ancient literature. 
 The works of Homer, Euripides, Ovid, Virgil and 
 Cicero often bring forth cases of manifestations from 
 the dying and the dead. We may see without eyes, 
 or hear without ears, not by the unnatural excitement 
 of our sense of vision of the hearing, but by some in- 
 terior sense, psychic and mental. The soul by its in- 
 terior vision may see not only what is passing at a 
 great distance, but it may also know in advance what 
 is to happen in the future. The future exists po- 
 tentially, determined by causes which bring to pass 
 successive events. Positive observation proves the ex- 
 istence of a psychic world as real as the world known 
 to our physical senses, and I shall never give up the 
 exploration of this world, which I hope to carry to 
 an end if the time indispensable to the work shall be 
 allowed me. But, on one hand, it is proper and proven 
 not to give one's self up exclusively to occult sub- 
 
Witnesses of the Truth 167 
 
 jects, for one might soon lose the independence of 
 mind necessary to form an impartial judgment. It is 
 better to look upon such studies as not one's main ob- 
 ject in life, but as recreation of a superior order most 
 curious and interesting. There are foods and drinks 
 which it is most wholesome to take only in small 
 quantities. On the other hand, our earth turns very 
 quickly, and days pass away like dreams. I hope, 
 nevertheless, to give myself the scientific pleasure of 
 studying a portion of these mysteries, and perhaps 
 what one man cannot do may be done by others. 
 Everyone may bring his little stone to assist in the 
 construction of the future pyramid. I ask my friends 
 to lay up knowledge to work and hope. We live in 
 the midst of an invisible world, in which forces are 
 at work of which we know very little, and this agrees 
 with what we know about the limitation of our physi- 
 cal senses and phenomena of nature. 
 
 Sir William Crooks, the distinguished English 
 physicist, who invented the tube of the Roentgen 
 Rays, claims to have touched, photographed and even 
 kissed materialized bodies of spirits. 
 
 William T. Stead, founder and editor of the Review 
 of Reviews, of London, an enthusiastic spiritualist, 
 claims not only to have communication from the dead, 
 but to have freely written down the thoughts of liv- 
 ing men miles away. 
 
 The American Society of Psychical Research pub- 
 
168 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 lished by Prof. William James the following account 
 of the strange clairvoyance case of Mrs. Tytus, of 
 Lebanon, N. H. : 
 
 On Monday, October 31, Miss Bertha Huse left 
 her home in Endfield, N. H., at 6 a.m., before the 
 rest of the family had risen. She took her way down 
 the street toward the so-called Shaker Bridge. Her 
 family, learning of her absence, instituted a search 
 for her and during the greater part of the day one 
 hundred and fifty men, more or less, hunted the woods 
 and lakeshore in that vicinity. This search proved of 
 no avail. Mr. Whitney, a mill owner of Endfield, sent 
 to Boston for divers. A diver named Sullivan worked 
 the better part of all Tuesday and up to Wednesday 
 noon without success in the lake. 
 
 On Wednesday evening, November 2, Mrs. Titus, 
 of Lebanon, N. H., a village about four and one-half 
 miles from Endfield, while dozing after supper, 
 aroused the attention of her husband, who was seated 
 near her, by her noises and extremely horrified coun- 
 tenance. When he spoke to her she failed to answer 
 him, and it was necessary for him to shake her before 
 arousing her to consciousness. When she was con- 
 scious, the first thing she said was, "Why did you dis- 
 turb me? In a moment I should have found that 
 body." After this she told her husband, "If I behave 
 very peculiarly to-night, or cry out, or seem greatly 
 disturbed, do not on any account awaken me, but leave 
 me to myself." At some time during the night Mr. 
 Titus was aroused by the screams of his wife. He got 
 up, lit the lamp and waited, obeying his wife's in- 
 structions. She, during the following interval, though 
 not awake, spoke in substance as follows : She fol- 
 lowed down the road down to the bridge, and on get- 
 ting part way across it stepped out to that jutting 
 beam, which was covered with frost. There she stood 
 undecided whether to go into the water there or to 
 
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 go up over the hill to the pond. While so standing 
 she slipped on the log, fell backward and slid under 
 the timber work of the bridge. You will find her ly- 
 ing, head in, and you will only be able to see one of 
 her rubbers projecting from the timber work. 
 
 Early in the morning, at her earnest solicitation, 
 her husband went with a Mr. Aver, an employee of 
 Amalca Flannel Company, at Lebanon, and asked him 
 for leave to absent himself from the mill that morn- 
 ing, in order to go with his wife to the Shaker Bridge, 
 at Endfield. He then told Mr. Ayer the story sub- 
 stantially as above. Mr. Titus also told the story to 
 Mr. W. R. Sunderland, as well as to certain other 
 persons, all in Lebanon, before he went with his wife 
 to Endfield, where he told other parties of the occur- 
 rence, and asked Mr. Whitney, who had been fore- 
 most in the search, to accompany himself and wife 
 to the spot his wife was desirous of investigating. 
 When they reached the bridge Mrs. Titus pointed 
 out a certain spot where she said they would find the 
 body in the position as above mentioned. Mr. Whit- 
 ney, who was then one of quite a number at the spot, 
 sent a messenger to get the diver who had been work- 
 ing in the neighborhood of that place on previous days. 
 On his arrival, Mrs. Titus pointed out to him the 
 spot where she said the body lay. He said, "I searched 
 there yesterday and found nothing." She said, "Yes, 
 you searched there, and there," pointing to a certain 
 spot, "but you did not search there, and if you will 
 go down you will find only the rubber of her shoe pro- 
 jecting from the timber work." To satisfy her, he 
 put on his diving suit and went down at the point 
 indicated. After a moment or two the bonnet of the 
 deceased rose to the surface and shortly after the 
 diver came up, bringing the body. The diver then 
 said, "I did not look in this place yesterday, as the 
 brush and debris were so thick there that I could not 
 see. In fact, all I could feel of the body was the rub- 
 ber projecting from the timber work," 
 
170 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Mrs. Titus' grandmother is said to have had a sim- 
 ilar power in her day, but Mrs. Titus is not known 
 to have made any pretense of being a clairvoyant, 
 having never used her trances for any pecuniary re- 
 ward or for the sake of any notoriety. On the day 
 following, viz., November 4, Mrs. Titus was ill. The 
 diver, Michael J. Sullivan, who found the body from 
 Mrs. Titus' instructions, made a signed statement to 
 the Society of Psychical Research, which is in part 
 as follows : 
 
 "Mrs. Titus walked along the bridge and came to 
 the spot and said, 'This looks very much like the place 
 I saw in my trance last night.' At last she said she 
 was sure that that was the place. I took a guide line, 
 with a sinker, and threw the sinker as near the spot 
 as I could. I then placed the ladder and put on my 
 suit and went down. Mrs. Titus had told me the body 
 was lying head down, only one foot with a new rubber 
 showing, and lying in a deep hole. I started down 
 the ladder, which extended about five feet under the 
 water. When I swung off of the ladder, I went side- 
 ways and then turned. As I struck the cribwork, ten 
 feet below the ladder, I turned to face the ladder, 
 and my hand struck something. I felt it and it felt 
 like a foot. I stopped short where I was. It is my 
 business to recover bodies in the water, and I am not 
 afraid of them ; but in this instance I was afraid of 
 the woman on the bridge. I thought to myself, how 
 can any woman come from ten miles away and tell 
 me or any other man where I could find this body! 
 I investigated and felt her foot, and made sure it 
 was a body. She was lying in a deep hole, head down. 
 It was so dark that I could not see anything. I had 
 to feel entirely. I pulled her out, carried her up till 
 I could get the light from above, and then arranged 
 her clothing by laying her out on the crib of the 
 bridge. When I had laid her out on the crib, I 
 reached for my guide line, but found I could not pull 
 it up. I had to take out my knife and cut it as far 
 
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 up as I could reach, and then I tied the line under 
 her arms. The line was simply a clothes line, six 
 thread. I then came up and asked for Mr. Whitney. 
 I said, 'She is down there.' Mr. Whitney said, 'I 
 know it.' I thought Mr. Whitney had been convinced 
 pretty strong. He said it turned out that when I 
 pulled her out of the hole her hat came off and rose 
 to the surface, and Martin, who worked the pump for 
 me, came near getting into trouble by being pushed 
 off the bridge when the hat appeared on the surface, 
 because the people rushed to the side of the bridge. 
 Fortunately he was not pushed off. We had a man 
 there in a little skiff who pulled her up. Mr. Whitney 
 asked me what I thought of it. I told him I did not 
 think, I was stunned. There are two statements that 
 Mrs. Titus made that are absolutely correct. She 
 located the place where I was to go down, also told 
 me that the body was lying head in, in a deep hole, 
 with one foot sticking up with a new rubber. I was 
 down in about eighteen feet of water. It was so dark 
 nobody could see down there. She must have seen 
 the body as it was lying, because she described the 
 position and she had already pointed out the place 
 I was to go down, and nobody could have known 
 who could not have seen the body, as it was lying on 
 the bottom. If you ask me how she knew it, I don't 
 know ; but if you will ask me if I believe in it, why, 
 I have been convinced against my will. If my best 
 friend should have told me, I should have thought 
 he had seen a ghost, but if ever I have a similar case 
 and can't find the body, I shall introduce the parties 
 to Mrs. Titus and she will find it." 
 
 The following paragraphs are taken from an ac- 
 count by Dr. Kennedy, which was signed as true by 
 Mrs. Titus : 
 
 "She, Mrs. Titus, walked down the bridge and came 
 back saying, 'George, she is down there.' She ex- 
 plained that she could see the rubber just as plainly 
 as while in her trance the night before. Mr. Titus 
 
172 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 said she located the spot in the night, and that he 
 could and did recognize it from her description. After 
 the diver came up with the body he said he was not 
 afraid of the woman in the water, but of the one on the 
 bridge. Mrs. Titus fights against these trances, as 
 she is usually ill for some time after." 
 This is a case of dissociation as well as clairvoyance. 
 
 A Spirit Guide Runs an Engine. 
 
 No danger lurks in the path of No. 15. Two driv- 
 ers perch on the same bench in the locomotive's cab 
 and guide its destiny. One is Horace J. Seaver, vet- 
 eran engineer and hero of many hairbreadth escapes. 
 The other is the spirit of a man that was. Unseen, 
 unheard, the spectre has been at the throttle for years 
 guiding and guarding the lives of those sleeping in 
 the darkened coaches behind. No. 15 is the Big Four 
 fast express which runs into Chicago over the Illi- 
 nois Central tracks from Kankakee. The train is 
 pulled by an Illinois Central locomotive, of which 
 Mr. Seaver is the engineer. For forty-three years 
 the veteran has been handling the throttle of the Illi- 
 nois Central. For forty-three years Mr. Seaver has 
 been a spiritualist ; not one of the table-raising, bell- 
 ringing kind, but an intelligent believer that spirit 
 bodies exist. He says that he has had innumerable 
 evidences that a spirit hand guides his engine through 
 fearful dangers and many escapes. Whenever he 
 climbs up in his cab he knows that the spectral engi- 
 
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 neer is sitting beside him ready to extend the hand of 
 warning in the time of need. Mr. Seaver was in the 
 cab gazing far out along the track, one dark night, 
 wondering how many more trips he would make be- 
 fore his good spirit deserted him. In the train were 
 more than one thousand old soldiers going to the 
 reunion at Campaign, 111. The throttle was out to 
 the last notch and the speed was more than sixty miles 
 an hour. Suddenly the engineer heard a soft voice 
 whispering in his ear: 
 
 "The bridge is burned; the bridge is burned." 
 
 As quick as possible Mr. Seaver set the airbrake 
 and stopped the train. In the coach one thousand 
 old soldiers were sleeping. The conductor hurried for- 
 ward to the engine. 
 
 "What do you mean by stopping this train out 
 here?" he demanded, angrily. 
 
 "You had better go along the track and find out," 
 said the engineer, quietly. 
 
 Only a few feet ahead of the engine was the river, 
 and over the river hung the charred remains of the 
 big bridge, which had burned only a short time be- 
 fore. The one thousand veterans were saved. This 
 happened in 1890, and Mr. Seaver was hailed as a 
 hero over all the country. "But it wasn't me that 
 did it," said the engineer, modestly. "It was some- 
 thing unseen. Something we do not know anything 
 about. I did not deserve any credit at all. I just 
 
174 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 heeded the warning that was given me. There are 
 numerous other instances where the same voice has 
 given me warning just in time to save the lives of 
 my passengers." — Chicago Journal. 
 
SOME OF THE SPIRITUAL EXPER- 
 IENCES OF AUTHOR 
 
 Given to Qualify Him to Write This Book. 
 
 The spirit upon me. On Sunday evening, August 
 20, 1899, while I was speaking in a Christian En- 
 deavor meeting, in the First Baptist Church, in Jack- 
 sonville, Florida, I was dazed with the power of the 
 spirit upon me and within me, and breaking away 
 from the subject on which I was speaking, I cried 
 out, "Woe! Woe! unto thee, daughters of Jackson- 
 ville! Weep not for those that have gone on before, 
 but rather weep for thyselves. Thou, as a city, hast 
 been weighed and found wanting. Thou hast crushed 
 thy brothers and sisters within thy bounds; yea, 
 throughout the state hast thy crushing and example 
 of life been felt. The great sins of this city are com- 
 mitted by those who know better, and can, if they 
 would, do good. Not among those who by their en- 
 vironments are incased in sin, but to those who could 
 do good and will not, am I grieved most with, saith 
 Jehovah. Thou shalt be destroyed. The edict hath 
 gone forth and cannot be rescinded. Woe! woe! 
 unto thee, for thou art as it were already destroyed; 
 
176 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 but thou mayest pray that it will not come in the 
 nighttime, as the loss of life may be less." 
 
 I did not stay in the church for service, I was so 
 dazed and sorrowful, but happy. I walked down to 
 the Presbyterian church, and sat in the! congregation. 
 The next morning, meeting some of my friends, they 
 wanted to know if I had stated that the city was to 
 be destroyed. I answered that I had, as the spirit 
 was upon me, but by twelve a.m. I had packed my 
 grips and left the city, and did not return until after 
 the fire that occurred about six months after. I 
 thought the spirit told them of it, and it was de- 
 stroyed, and I have no doubt but some of them un- 
 derstood and prayed, as the fire started in the morning. 
 
 VISION. 
 
 On November 8, 1899, I was between Lake Butler 
 and Lawtey, about sixty miles southwest of Jack- 
 sonville, and near the Connor Bridge, west of Law- 
 tey. I felt as though I would prefer to spend the 
 night with our heavenly Father and Master, which 
 I have often done, and especially since my visit to 
 that land of light and glory, always carrying a small 
 tent, two meals for myself and two feeds for my 
 horse, while traveling. It was just about dark when 
 I drove into the woods, tied my mare, fed her and 
 pitched my tent. All went as usual, and I was lying 
 with my head bolstered up higher than I usually do, 
 
Experiences of the Author 177 
 
 wide awake. About one o'clock I suddenly looked 
 out through the tent, which was heavy duck with oil 
 cover, and through heavy timber, just as if there were 
 no tent or timber there. I could see at least one-third 
 of the heavens. In the center and directly in front 
 of me, high up in the sky, was a large star, beauti- 
 ful ethereal colors, about two-thirds as large as the 
 full moon, and small stars all around all over the 
 heavens, and on the surface of the earth were small 
 palms. From the ground stretching up on each side 
 of this grand star, the tops arching beautifully away 
 from it and extending much higher, were twelve 
 leaves of the phoenix dactylifera (commonly known as 
 Assyrian date palm), six on each side, butts in the 
 ground, with the small stars shining through between 
 the leaves. I looked upon this beautiful vision for 
 some time, when I commenced counting the palms' 
 leaves from left to right, and just as I had finished 
 counting twelve, I heard angels passing through the 
 air, high up in front and to the right, shouting, "He 
 with the twelve apostles cometh soon." At this mo- 
 ment the mare broke her rope and ran away through 
 the woods. I could hear her running, but was so fas- 
 cinated with the beautiful vision that I let her go. At 
 the same moment I was impressed or heard a voice, 
 I think it was my guardian angel, said, "There will 
 be no freeze south of this point that will kill one of 
 these palms for twelve years." They are about as 
 
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178 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 tender as a two-year-old orange tree. There has been 
 no general freeze since, neither can earth and hell 
 make one during this twelve years. Irl Hicks prophe- 
 sied that there would be three during the winter 1900- 
 01, and the United States Weather Bureau has sent 
 out telegraph notices ten times that it would be twenty 
 degrees above zero at Jacksonville and twenty-five de- 
 grees at Tampa, but it has not come, in a way that 
 would kill a two-year-old tree in good health. 
 
 APPEARING TO OTHERS IN THE LIVING SOUL. 
 
 About one o'clock in the afternoon of Thanksgiv- 
 ing Day, 1899, I drove into the town of Dunnellon, 
 Fla., left my horse and buggy at the livery barn and 
 started to the hotel, and as I was passing down the 
 street, just in front of his store, I saw Mr. C. W. 
 Rush, who was and is one of the leading merchants 
 of that place. I am personally acquainted with his 
 father, Rev. C. W. Rush, of Judson, Fla., and his 
 mother, and both are good Christians. As I was pass- 
 ing Charlie I felt the spirit prompt me, and turning, 
 extended my hand to him, and as we clasped hands, 
 said in a friendly way, "How is it, Charlie, your 
 father and mother are such good workers for Christ, 
 and you are doing nothing for Him in this town, so 
 spiritually dead?" He laughed at me, and I passed 
 on. I saw him again in the evening, standing on the 
 porch of the hotel, as I was going in, but did not 
 
Experiences of the Author 179 
 
 speak to him. The first I knew I was standing by 
 Charlie's bed. He said afterward it was about two 
 o'clock in the morning. I was clothed in a white 
 raiment, white with a tinge of gold, the same as I 
 had on in that land of glory, though no spots on it, 
 my arms folded across my breast, and was talking 
 to him. He was partially raised up in bed, looking 
 very scared. I became more earnest in my conversa- 
 tion and was holding out my right hand towards him, 
 with two fingers pointing at him, and coming nearer. 
 He raised up in the bed and struck at me. I then 
 turned and walked through a solid wall. Upon enter- 
 ing my body or earthly shell, I woke up immediately, 
 and my first thoughts were, what a natural dream that 
 was ; how natural Charlie looked, and how scared ; 
 but my walking through a wall, how ridiculous. (This 
 was before I had read or studied any scientific works.) 
 I went to sleep again and upon waking up in the 
 morning about seven o'clock, the first thing I thought 
 of was, What a peculiar dream, and how natural 
 Charlie looked, — how real and scared. But when I 
 thought of going through the wall, laughed; still, 
 felt fuller of the spirit, and happy. After breakfast 
 I called on a number of persons on business, and 
 about ten o'clock entered Charlie's store. He was 
 waiting on a customer about the middle of the room, 
 and when he saw me he started towards the rear and 
 behind the counter. I followed him to speak to him, 
 
180 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 when he threw up his hands and said, "Don't you 
 come near me." I advanced towards him, when he 
 cried, out more intensely, "Don't you come near me," 
 and seemed to be in perfect terror, when his brother 
 touched me on the shoulder and said: 
 
 "Don't pay any attention to him, Uncle Mac; he 
 seems to be out of his head this morning." 
 
 I turned and went out of the store, never thinking 
 of what I then considered to be a dream. After fin- 
 ishing up my business in Dunnellon, and when about 
 two miles out of town, the Holy Spirit spoke to me 
 so plainly, and said, "Thou preached to C. W. Rush 
 in the spirit this morning." I felt a thrill of joy and 
 glory pass through me, and I knew it was true. About 
 seventy days afterwards, I was in Dunnellon again, 
 and as I entered Mr. Rush's store he came towards 
 me, with both hands extended, and catching hold of 
 my hands, said, "You don't have to preach to me in 
 the spirit again, Uncle Mac; I am converted. Don't 
 you see it?" His face was changed and radiant, his 
 eyes filled with love, and tears of joy running down 
 his cheeks, and the joy and glory that passed through 
 me, and filled me. He is now a great worker for the 
 Master. I love him as a son, and he loves me; but 
 the best of all, we both adore Jesus. 
 
 Dunnellon, Fla., January 29, 1903. 
 Donald W. McDonald, South Jacksonville, Fla. 
 Dear Sir and Brother: Yours with proof to hand, 
 
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 and read with great pleasure. I see nothing that I 
 could add to it that would make any improvement on 
 it, as I think it is complete with my approval, which 
 I do with pleasure. 
 
 With best wishes, I remain, as ever, your friend, 
 
 Charles W. Rush. 
 
 FIRST SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE DISSOCIATION. 
 
 On August 25, 1869, in New York City, shortly 
 after the passing over of my first wife to that land 
 of glory, I was taken very sick. The doctors gave me 
 up. I lost knowledge of my surroundings here on 
 earth. I went out through space (that is, my living 
 soul), came to a beautiful river about two hundred 
 feet wide, oh, so pure and clear! The opposite bank 
 was one body of golden effulgency, just glorious in 
 appearance. I started to walk into the river to cross 
 it, when I heard a voice — how well I knew it — and 
 looking up, I saw my wife on the opposite bank. She 
 was clothed in white raiment, the only color being 
 just a tinge of gold. I started toward her, when she 
 raised her right hand, palm toward me, her face and 
 form very radiant and beautiful, eyes filled with love, 
 and said to me, with a voice clear and distinct, "Not 
 vet, not yet; go back. You have duties to perform." 
 It was my wife, I know, and when I became con- 
 scious of my surroundings in this world I told those 
 around me that I would get well, and that I had seen 
 Lizzie, my wife. 
 
182 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Dissociation Visit to Land of Darkness and 
 Land of Light. 
 
 On August 25, 1899, I felt the tingling in my hands 
 and feet and arms and limbs, like when they go to 
 sleep, also numbness and dizziness, and I was soon 
 cold, numb and still. This was about seven o'clock 
 in the evening. I passed out through space (that is, 
 my living soul) and entered a land that was dark, 
 about as dark as a quarter moon slightly clouded. It 
 was a peculiar darkness and became darker as I ad- 
 vanced into the country. This light, if light you could 
 call it, only extended upwards about two hundred 
 feet. Above that were black, rolling clouds, like a 
 cyclone or tornado, though it was still where I was. 
 The country was a perfect desert of barren rocks of 
 brownish color, mountainous and broken, narrow de- 
 files with narrow walls twelve to hundreds of feet in 
 height, and occasionally small barren valleys where 
 spirits wandered by twos and groups of ten and 
 twenty, every man's hand being against every other 
 man, with faces and features like convicts under the 
 lash, clad in raiment of dark grayish color. So dreary, 
 not even a blade of grass ; roads that looked broad, 
 but when in them were nothing but paths running 
 irregularly; wretched hovels about eight or ten feet 
 high; they had no windows and quite a number had 
 pickets, set close around them and extending two feet 
 
Experiences of the Author 183 
 
 above the eaves. Doors all bolted and barred. The 
 material of which these hovels were built was like 
 adamant, of a dark grayish color. I was seized with 
 fear and terror and ran around trying to hide myself. 
 How I suffered! Finally I came to a hovel, the door 
 of which was open. It was about nine feet high, and 
 when I entered I found it had three rooms, the first 
 about twelve by sixteen feet, nothing in it, and it 
 looked as though it had just been vacated; the second 
 room to the right was about eight by ten, and had a 
 bench in it; the third room had nothing in it — and 
 all looked very desolate, dreary and filthy. As I 
 started from the door of the third room, intending 
 to leave the hovel, having found no place to hide, a 
 creature came in at the only opening, preventing my 
 escape. It had the form of a man, but how hideous. 
 The face was bloated and demoniac, eyes piercing 
 and fierce, and was clothed in a dirty, dark grayish 
 garment, and armed with a weapon like a javelin, 
 about six feet long. He started towards me in the 
 first and second position of charge bayonet. I just 
 stood trembling with fear and terror, when some be- 
 ing unseen by me placed in my left hand a weapon, 
 and as I grasped it a sudden change of feeling came 
 over me. Coolly and calmly, the fear having left me, 
 I awaited his assault. I parried his thrust, and then 
 thrust in quarte. A perfect sword of fire shot out 
 of the weapon in my hand, just like a beautiful Da- 
 
184 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 mascus blade, only straight. It pierced his left side 
 and he fell. (I am a perfect left- and right-hand 
 swordsman, having served in the cavalry in our Civil 
 War, and made it a special study and practice.) Be- 
 ing somewhat curious, I stepped over the creature 
 and examined him. He was about five feet nine inches 
 tall, very broad shouldered and muscular, of a dirty, 
 grayish color, very loathsome and slimy. 
 
 I went out of the hovel and ran, then drifted, with- 
 out any motion on my part except to incline a little 
 in the direction I was going, very rapidly, with a sen- 
 sation similar to falling, but no unpleasantness about 
 it. I really enjoyed it, like swinging under the old 
 oak when a boy. Instead of traveling in a straight 
 line, I seemed to be going in a half circle until I came 
 to a straight road, and it was very straight. This 
 road was like a pike in Old Virginia or Kentucky, 
 only of beautiful prismatic rays, like when you look 
 at an arc light about three hundred feet away, closing 
 your eyes and then opening them just enough to catch 
 the line of rays between the arc and your eyes — only 
 the light and the colors were much more beautiful. 
 The road that I came from into the straight road is 
 a left-hand fork from the straight road, and it looked 
 like a shady road to a cloudy valley, a pleasant place 
 to rest in. 
 
 I turned and looked up this beautiful, straight high- 
 way, and saw in the distance a light ; it looked like 
 
Experiences of the Author 185 
 
 an arc light, only larger and ethereal in a field of glory. 
 I started towards it immediately, drifting the same as 
 before. As I approached it, it increased in size and 
 splendor, and at about one-half distance it looked like 
 the sun rising in a fog, only a thousand times more 
 beautiful. The surrounding country was like the sub- 
 urbs to a large city, with trees, verdure and buildings. 
 These were similar to, but more magnificent than, 
 any on earth. 
 
 When about one-eighth of a mile from the light, 
 it was a, grand arch, with more beautiful colors than 
 the rainbow — that is, the frame or outer edge; the 
 center field was one grand, golden effulgency, like 
 ethereal light through a pearl. The arch was at least 
 five hundred feet high. I turned to the right at this 
 point and entered a doorway, then immediately to 
 the left and ascended a narrow stairway. After as- 
 cending an immense height, when my head and shoul- 
 ders were above the top of the stairs, I beheld an 
 anteroom about thirty feet square. Three beauti- 
 ful creatures approached me, coming from the direc- 
 tion of a door on my right, and in front, that was 
 ajar. There was a beautiful golden light in this apart- 
 ment, soft and mellow. These lovely beings ap- 
 proached me, one in advance, the other two just be- 
 hind him, with their arms around each other, their 
 hands clasped and looking lovingly and affectionately 
 at me. At first I thought they were ladies, their faces 
 
186 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 were so beautiful, so perfect and radiant, raiment of 
 white, that folded like silk or satin, yet more like 
 crepe or lace ; their large eyes so full of pure love and 
 glory, forms so perfect, radiant and kingly. I stood 
 in amazement, but filled with a peace and love that I 
 had never known before. The one in advance, who 
 was larger than the other two, extended his hands, 
 palms downward, towards me. I, like a child, reached 
 up and caught them, and a glory passed through me 
 that will never leave me until I come through grace 
 to those portals again. He raised me up on the floor 
 they were standing on, and I felt perfectly at home, 
 filled with joy and glory. They talked to me and I 
 to them; they were so very kind and gentle and lov- 
 ing, but I do not remember what was said. I looked 
 at myself and found that I was clothed in a beautiful 
 white raiment, with a tinge of gold. On my left is 
 a door closed and barred. On my right a door ajar. 
 I saw some souls and angels in there, and they seemed 
 very happy. There was an arch in front of me about 
 twelve feet high, four feet wide, with a golden damask 
 curtain hanging over it. We passed through the arch, 
 and, glory upon glory; the magnificent view that I 
 beheld. We walked to the corner of the balcony. I 
 could see the straight road I came on to this glory 
 land, and after continuing through the arch or gate 
 it became a street or avenue fully four hundred feet 
 wide, and went straight on as far as I could see, and 
 
Experiences of the Author 187 
 
 I was able to see much farther than I could with any 
 telescope on earth. The country laid almost level, with 
 a gentle rise in the distance, where it was still more 
 glorious. 
 
 On the left of this street is a grand park, with beau- 
 tiful trees of perfect form and different colors and 
 beautiful verdure. I saw a depression of the surface 
 angling across this park and thought it was a river, by 
 reason of three golden bridges of about four hundred 
 feet span, one arch, no columns or supports. Not high, 
 just enough above the level to be beautiful. I also saw 
 an immense procession moving across this straight 
 street, four blocks of mansions up, and crossing the 
 first golden bridge. And reaching away up there where 
 it was still more glorious and beautiful. On the right 
 side of this straight street were mansions ; I could 
 not see the roofs, just columns and balconies on front 
 and sides to right and front. 
 
 The angel took my hand in his left hand and we 
 stepped off of the balcony, descended gently and eas- 
 ily to the left side of the street close to the park. Oh, 
 how magnificent, grand and beautiful it was ! Trees, 
 every leaf on them so even and perfect, not one dead 
 twig or leaf, colors so beautiful. There were small 
 trees and shrubbery of perfect shape, with verdure; 
 if grass, it was so lovely, like plush of the brightest 
 green, with delicate little flowers amongst it, and large 
 flowers, shady walks and all purity and beauty, not 
 
188 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 even a soiled blade of grass. Spirits of just ones made 
 perfect and angels were moving here and there, with 
 such looks of love and welcome to each other, even 
 to me, a stranger — so kingly and queenly in their 
 movements, all joy, all purity, all happiness, all love. 
 I noticed nothing but the beauties of this park and its 
 lovely occupants, they were so fascinating to me, until 
 we were crossing the third street up this straight 
 street, when my attention was called to the proces- 
 sion. We approached to within twenty feet of it. 
 The horses were grand in form and perfect in grace 
 and motion, with golden lace over a portion of the 
 necks and shoulders, reaching back and attaching to 
 the chariots, some of which have two wheels, and 
 some have four wheels, with five spokes to each wheel, 
 some golden and some other colors, and spokes were 
 larger at the fellow than at the hub. There were 
 also spirits of just ones made perfect, men and women, 
 walking on each side of the chariots, eight and twelve 
 abreast, playing on different kinds of instruments 
 and singing a glorious song — such beautiful music. 
 I tried to understand it. They were all clothed in 
 raiment, white, or white with a golden tinge ; and 
 there were some angels amongst them. 
 
 It is so difficult to tell an angel from a living soul, 
 especially when the spirit made perfect is clothed with 
 those beautiful white raiments and their faces are 
 turned away from you. Up there the living soul has 
 
Experiences of the Author 189 
 
 the same dear features it had on earth, only glorified 
 and radiant, also that heavenly love pouring from 
 their eyes ; while the angel's face is chiseled so perfect, 
 so beautiful, radiant, with eyes so large and power- 
 ful, full to overflowing with such divine love. Their 
 movements were so grand, not fast nor slow, just 
 perfect, kingly, queenly, graceful and elegant. 
 
 My attention was now called to a four-wheeled 
 chariot drawn by a span of beautiful bay horses. The 
 frame was something like a large platter or shell of 
 a lovely golden color, with seats all around inside, 
 and filled with little children, also three living souls 
 or angels, one in front, the other two sitting in the 
 rear. When they were nearly opposite me, two little 
 boys turned around. They were sitting on the side 
 nearest to me, waving their little hands and calling. 
 Evidently they knew me. They were my two boys. 
 I had buried their carnal bodies in Kansas twenty 
 years before. I could not hear what they said, by 
 reason of the immense volume of music. Their faces 
 were plump, joyous and radiant, and eyes so filled 
 with love and glory. I would not bring them back 
 if I could. 
 
 We now turned round and went back to the third 
 street, crossing the straight street, and went down 
 the right side of this third street, from the arch or 
 gate. When we turned around my attention was 
 called to the mansions. They were very high, col- 
 
190 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 umn and balcony, column and balcony, alternately, one 
 above the other, about four hundred feet front, each 
 one of them pure, precious stone, smooth and pol- 
 ished, white columns and white steps, each mansion 
 its own individual color. Looking along the fronts 
 the colors blend more beautiful than a rainbow, and 
 each one is of a different style, I should say inclined 
 towards Jewish architecture. 
 
 After passing down the right side of the third street 
 about five blocks or mansions, my attention was called 
 to a mansion of a reddish color with a purple tinge. 
 The entrance was about fifteen feet high and ten feet 
 broad, white columns on each side of the entrance, 
 with a half circle of white marble over the top, and 
 pure, beautiful, white steps extended out to the street, 
 five or six in number. When about forty feet from 
 the steps I saw a woman dressed in dark, just as I 
 had often seen her here on earth, in the act of going 
 up into the mansion. She halted with her right foot 
 on the second step, and her left foot on the third. 
 When within twenty feet of her I called. She turned 
 around and ran towards me with her arms extended, 
 shouting loud and clear, "Home at last!" I met her 
 with outstretched arms, took her in my arms and 
 pressed her to my bosom. Her raiment was fine and 
 beautiful, her form perfect, and I could feel her just 
 as well as when on earth. I kissed her and she kissed 
 me. Oh, the reality and purity of life in that land of 
 
Experiences of the Author 191 
 
 love, ever blessed land! It was my wife that had 
 passed over from this earth over thirty years before 
 in New York City. Just as young, but more lovely 
 and radiant, her eyes so filled with love and joy. 
 We stood with our arms around each other and talked 
 on different things. At last I said that I would like 
 to settle up my Virginia estate. Instantly she stepped 
 back, with eyes so filled with heavenly love and satis- 
 faction, but as her glance passed down towards my 
 knees, I saw sadness in her face. I looked down and 
 saw that I was clothed in the same white raiment 
 which I had on in the anteroom, with a tinge of gold 
 in the color, with which I had seen so many other 
 spirits of just ones made perfect, clad in this land of 
 glory, very fine and beautiful. While all theirs were 
 clean and perfect, mine, I now perceived, had spots 
 on it like grease spots ; my left limb was to the front 
 and over the knee was a spot as large as my hand. 
 I reached forward and caught her in my arms again 
 and kissed her, but it was like kissing a corpse. The 
 angel left me here ; at least I did not see him any 
 more. 
 
 My wife took my left hand in her right and we 
 ascended in the mansion. I saw a lovely hall and 
 entrance, with columns all round, and golden damask 
 hanging from ceiling to floor. We ascended a grand, 
 massive stairway, which wound round most artistic- 
 ally, and at each turn there were four arches, with 
 
192 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 damask hanging over them. There were no doors in 
 this city, at least I saw none after leaving the ante- 
 room. After ascending to an immense height we 
 turned to the left into an apartment, and my wife left 
 me here, at least I did not see her any more. The 
 apartment was about twenty feet square and twenty 
 feet high. Everything was equal and beautiful, so 
 pure and clean. I advanced about six feet and halted 
 in amazement. The side from which I had entered 
 was of solid golden damask, spotted and flecked with 
 bronze from floor to ceiling, except where I entered, 
 which was like the opening to a tent. There was a 
 column on each corner and one in the center at each 
 side. On my left was solid damask from floor to ceil- 
 ing, the same in front, while on the right the damask 
 was caught back like curtains in a window, showing 
 at least one-third open view. There were six spirits 
 of just ones made perfect in this apartment, but the 
 glorious view claimed my attention first. 
 
 I could see many miles of beautiful mansions, higher 
 at hand than in the distance, where they were more 
 like elegant suburban residences in our large cities on 
 earth, with magnificent trees and verdure all around 
 them; that ethereal light, and lovely mansions of all 
 shapes and colors, so much more beautiful than here 
 on earth. I should say there were millions of them. 
 I looked around the apartment and the first living soul 
 I noticed was a lady with light hair, large, blue eyes, 
 
Experiences of the Author 193 
 
 light complexion sitting on a soft, or something like 
 one, near the balcony. She looked at me with a wel- 
 come look, full of love, as though she knew me. Her 
 face looked familiar, but I did not know her. The 
 one that sat next to her on this beautiful sofa was my 
 aunt, Ann McDonald. (My mother passed over from 
 this world when I was nine weeks old.) This aunt 
 nursed me when a baby, cared for me in youth, lived 
 with me in Chicago and passed over about nine years 
 before that time. She left this earth at the age of 
 seventy-two ; her hair was streaked with gray, her 
 cheeks were wrinkled, her eyes sunken, but up there 
 her face was radiant, full and plump, and her eyes 
 were filled with love and joy. The streaks of gray 
 looked so beautiful in her hair, and it was combed just 
 as she used to comb it here on earth. She did not seem 
 to see me. Standing in front of Aunt Ann, and facing 
 her, was one that I would have known by her voice 
 had I not seen her face and form. They were singing 
 the same song that those in the procession were sing- 
 ing. I tried again to understand it, but could not 
 catch the words nor tune ; if I did, I have not remem- 
 bered them. This woman was my oldest sister. She 
 was the wife of John V. Ham, crown officer at Whitby, 
 Ontario, and was a great church singer. Oh, Alary, 
 you are happier there ! Her voice rang out clearer, 
 sweeter and more beautiful than when on earth. 
 Neither did she seem to see me. Next to Alary and 
 
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194 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 nearer to me, and facing the light-haired woman, was 
 a small woman, slim, and of perfect form, like a girl, 
 with very luxuriant dark hair, which hung down her 
 back loosely and very long, large blue eyes with a 
 tinge of gray, regular features, fair complexion and 
 not more than five feet, one or two inches. She looked 
 very much like my Aunt Crosby, of Whitby, Ontario, 
 but more beautiful. I knew it was my mother. You 
 ask me how I knew her, and can only answer that 
 I do not know, unless in that future land we know 
 as we are known, though sometimes it seems to me 
 a voice said, "Your mother." How I do love her since 
 I saw her there ! She did not seem to see me. To 
 the left and in front of me stood a grand old man with 
 gray hair combed straight back, about five feet, nine 
 inches tall, broad shoulders, Roman nose, exceedingly 
 heavy eyebrows, long whiskers and large blue eyes, 
 such a beautiful pure blue, and so filled with love. He 
 had such a commanding look as he stood with his 
 arms folded across his breast. A voice said, "Your 
 grandfather. I knew it was William Jenkins, a noted 
 Presbyterian minister of Ontario, who passed over 
 long before I was born. Neither did he seem to see 
 me. (Of these last two there are no pictures nor any- 
 thing by which I could have known them, yet my un- 
 cle, William Jenkins, states that I could not have given 
 a better description of them had I seen them on 
 earth, and he knows that I could not have seen my 
 
Experiences of the Author 195 
 
 grandfather, nor could I have remembered my 
 little mother.) 
 
 Now, all the living souls in this apartment so far 
 described were dressed in those fine, white raiments, 
 white with a tinge of gold, which fitted their forms 
 perfectly; except one, who stood directly in front of 
 me and facing me, not over six feet distance. It was 
 my own father, whom I knew well. He was clothed 
 in the full suit of a Presbyterian minister, even to 
 the white necktie. It seemed hard for him to see me at 
 first; then a glance of joy sprang from his radiant 
 face and lovelit eyes, as he saw my head and shoul- 
 ders, but as his glance passed downward on my form 
 a sad and disappointed look came into his eyes, and 
 his voice so sad and mournful said, "My son here 
 with soiled garments ?" I now looked at myself again, 
 the left limb to the front. I was clothed with the same 
 raiment, and with the same spots on them, as I had 
 on when talking to my wife in front of the glorious 
 and grand mansion. I felt as though condemnation 
 rested upon me, for those spots on my raiment were 
 the only evidence of impurity that I had seen in that 
 land. of purity and love. I looked at the opening on 
 my right, looking over the heavenly city again, then 
 turned and looked at my father. He stood with his 
 hands clasped and eyes turned upward, as in supplica- 
 tion, and I felt myself borne away. The first I knew I 
 was in the shell we call body, and it was cold and stiff 
 
196 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 for some time and I could not move at all. I heard 
 the mosquitoes humming around me thick but none 
 bit me. A clammy, cold perspiration was all over me. 
 The first movement I can remember was with the first 
 and second fingers of my right hand, and I was then 
 singing, "Glory to the Father, Son and the Holy 
 Ghost." 
 
 Now, let me speak of the light up there. It was a 
 golden effulgency, and was just as light in the stair- 
 way and apartments as in the park, street or balcony, 
 and there was no sun, moon or stars. It seemed to 
 be food and drink, and filled me with such supreme 
 joy and glory. Oh, how I long to go there again ! It 
 was just breaking day when I became conscious of 
 being in my earthly tabernacle. In one hour I was 
 almost as well as ever, physically, and glory filled 
 my spirit, soul and shell, and has to this day, when- 
 ever I think of it. I am a changed man in many ways, 
 and how I adore our heavenly Father, His Son, Jesus, 
 and the Holy Spirit. Never go I to sleep without say- 
 ing, "Jesus, Master, Friend and Elder Brother, I am 
 thine, — spirit, soul and body, thine — to do Thy will 
 as Thou wilt; but I pray Thee, through grace, bring 
 thy servant soon to that land of glory, purity and love, 
 again, to home, and home to stay." And I often say 
 this each day as I pass along through this valley and 
 long to be with those that have passed over in Jesus' 
 
Experiences of the Author 197 
 
 love. Our home, if born again ; our Master's king- 
 dom. I was there and I know it. 
 
 The Approval of These Experiences by One of 
 
 the Greatest, if not the Greatest, Doctor, 
 
 Traveler, Investigator and Writer of 
 
 the Age, and an Author of 
 
 Many Books. 
 
 Battle Creek, Mich., May n, 1903. 
 Donald W. McDonald, South Jacksonville, Fla. 
 
 My Dear Brother: Your letter with the enclosed 
 psychical experiences reached me by due course of 
 mail. I read your experience with a very great de- 
 gree of pleasure, and I trust, spiritual profit. They 
 temporarily lifted me above the world's confusion and 
 competition onto higher and purer planes of life. 
 Your experience in leaving your body and traveling 
 in the heavenly spheres are very much like some of 
 Dr. Duns' experience. He was a medium, or psychic, 
 living with me much of the time for fourteen years. 
 He would frequently, after retiring at night, become 
 at first spasmodic, then almost rigid, his pulse beating 
 very faintly and heart, also, and his body would re- 
 main in this state for sometimes a full hour. It fright- 
 ened me at first, but soon became a common thing. 
 When out of his body he traveled in different spheres, 
 some higher and some lower, and would describe to 
 me what he saw. I remember of his traveling in one 
 of the heavenly spheres or zones, so ethereal that even 
 the flowers and the plants seemed to be translucent, 
 and they would seemingly bow to him as he passed 
 by them. They were flowers that he had never seen 
 on earth. All of these experiences go to demonstrate 
 the great truth of the soul's immortality, and the ne- 
 cessity of living the upright, conscientious, Christlike 
 life in order to attain the altitude of peace in the 
 
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 promised kingdom of glory. I am pleased that you 
 are delighted with my articles in the Magazine of 
 Mysteries. I write for that, for the Banner of Light, 
 Progressive Thinker, and Arena, of Uew York, etc. 
 I am in my eighty-second year, and am yet working 
 as earnestly as ever to benefit my brother-man. I am 
 a vegetarian, avoiding also tobacco, liquors of all 
 kinds, and am in favor of peace and arbitration of 
 war. I earnestly hope that you will publish these 
 experiences of yours in pamphlet form. They are not 
 only valuable in themselves, but they will help to en- 
 lighten those of the old orthodox school who have 
 believed many erroneous and soul-chilling doctrines. 
 I take pleasure to-day of sending you two or three of 
 my lectures, which may interest you. Hope that I 
 may some time meet you in the flesh. 
 I remain sincerely and cordially yours, 
 
 J. M. Peebles. 
 
 P.S. — Should you have any further experiences, be- 
 fore publishing them, please let me see them. 37 Beach 
 Street, Battle Creek, Mich. 
 
 I have had the pleasure of meeting Brother Peebles 
 this spring in Tampa, where I reside, and we had a very 
 social visit. He is now about eighty-seven years old, 
 lively and happy, full of the spirit, and working hard 
 as ever, and I recognize in him a brother in Christ, 
 and as we said when clasping hands during our fare- 
 well, "We know we will meet in that land of glory, 
 
 if not again in this valley." 
 
 D. W. McDonald. 
 
Experiences of the Author 199 
 
 IN MY HOME. 
 
 My spirit hath passed thro' that gateway of gems 
 
 And a heavenly city hath seen; 
 And tho' it returned to this vale of glens 
 
 An unsatisfied being on earth, 
 Yea, I know when I was in that glory land 
 
 That I was in my home after birth. 
 
 Yea, I am soon to go home to that glory land, 
 
 My dear ones are waiting for me ; 
 A joyful farewell to this dreary strand 
 
 When the gates again I shall see. 
 Yea, forever adore Thee, Triune Jehovah, 
 
 Yea, glory! all glory! to Thee. 
 
REVIEW OF PART OF THE EVI- 
 DENCE 
 
 Mrs. Geo. Bradshaw sees that land of glory and is 
 not allowed to tell what she saw. 
 
 Dr. Danby, one of the leading ministers of the 
 Southern Presbyterian Church, hears beautiful music. 
 Of this he is certain, and not of this world. And as 
 others have heard the music of the heavenly choirs, 
 why not he? 
 
 The lady in Texas certainly did hear that heavenly 
 music. 
 
 A little child in passing out recognizes her mother 
 that had passed over prior, calling her, "Mamma, 
 mamma." 
 
 Gen. Stonewall Jackson sees that land of love. 
 
 Jessie L. Latham, an old veteran, sees his mother 
 and daughter, Ruby, for one whole week before pass- 
 ing out, also his home in that land of love. 
 
 Mr. John Smith, of Macon, Ga., for two days be- 
 fore passing out sees his children, talks with them, 
 recognizes them, as individualities, and calls them by 
 name; also states that they are waiting for him. 
 
 Lieutenant Gay sees and talks to his mother, who 
 
Review of Part of the Evidence 201 
 
 had passed over fourteen years prior, and tries to 
 show her to others in the flesh ; also states the room 
 is full of angels. 
 
 W. W. Siker, Brookville, Miss., sees his three chil- 
 dren, Willie, Johnnie and Elizabeth, calls them by 
 name and recognizes them as his that had passed over. 
 
 Mrs. Heisen, of Aberdeen, Miss., recognizes her 
 friend, Miss Lucy Jones, who had passed over pre- 
 viously ; talks to her and asks her to "Take my hand, 
 Lucy," and passes over. 
 
 Miss Emma Fisher, before departing this life, and 
 she only ten years old, sees and recognizes her father 
 who had passed over four years prior ; states, "Mother, 
 father is standing by you. He has come for me. I am 
 going with him." Passes out singing a hymn. A 
 month after her mother hears her singing at her side, 
 "Sweet By and By." 
 
 Miss Mary Adell, of Biloxi, Miss., one day prior 
 to passing over recognizes her brother John, and 
 while holding the hand of this brother John, that had 
 gone on before, she tries to have her mother see him ; 
 then in passing out has a view of that glory land. 
 
 Mrs. Geo. S. Brown, of East Rome, Ga., one day 
 before passing over sees and recognizes her friend, 
 Mrs. Kline, who had passed over fourteen years prior. 
 
 Miss Kittie Brown, of Montgomery, Ala., only 
 eighteen months old, recognizes her grandfather, who 
 had passed over nine years and six months before she 
 
202 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 was born; also her sister Lees, who had passed over 
 when she was six months old; and while bidding her 
 mother and father good-by, called out, "Sister Lees, 
 Grandpa, wait; Katy Brown is coming," and passed 
 over. 
 
 Americus, Ga., Master Jack Cleghorn, four years 
 and two months old, recognizes and calls his brother, 
 who had passed over ten years prior, saying, "Wait 
 for me, little brother. I hear the bells ringing. Good- 
 by, mamma." 
 
 On the 25th of March, 1905, Augusta, Ga., Miss 
 Kittie Mays, twenty-three years old, saw and recog- 
 nized her mother, that had passed over two years 
 prior, and her sister, who had passed over sixteen 
 years prior ; 'said they were bidding her to come home 
 with them, saying to the others in the room, "Don't 
 you see them? They are waiting for me." 
 
 Chattanooga, Tenn., November 21, 1905, Mrs. John 
 Trout, who had nearly passed over, but who is living 
 now, in fair health, states that she saw her mother, 
 who had passed over ten years prior. "I knew her; 
 she was just my own mother, only beautified. She 
 talked with me; I could hear her and understand her 
 perfectly. She talked kindly and gave me great com- 
 fort. I know it was my mother." 
 
 Orlando, Fla., November 27, 1907, Mr. John Mc- 
 Bride recognizes his mother and his four children. 
 
Review of Part of the Evidence 203 
 
 All had passed over prior. They were just his mother 
 and children. 
 
 Memphis, Tenn., May 13, 1905. Mrs. Susan Mc- 
 Lean, eighty-four years of age, before passing over 
 one day continually saw her husband, Dr. McLean, 
 and her father and mother and children ; also states 
 that the angels talked to her. Indeed, she was tired 
 shaking hands with so many that came to escort her 
 home. 
 
 Vicksburg, Miss., March, 1907. Mrs. Mary Moses, 
 while resting in her son's arms just before passing 
 over, tries to show him a man in white that is waiting 
 for her. Her son, Morris M. Moses, feels his presence. 
 
 Mobile, Ala., 1890. Miss Catharine McConnell 
 Gordon said in passing over, "I hear the angels sing- 
 ing. Oh, how beautiful they sing." 
 
 Elder John Gilliard, Claiborne Ave., Mobile, Ala., 
 said to his wife's sister, "How beautiful the day; not 
 the day here. I have glimpses of the new Jerusalem. 
 I bid you good-by. My Savior has come for me," and 
 passed out. 
 
 Mrs. L. McConnell, Atlanta, Ga., sees her brother- 
 in-law before passing out, that had passed over, and 
 describes him to her sister. Also saw her mother and 
 states that she sees them just as clear as those in the 
 flesh. 
 
 Selma, Ala., in February, 1902, Mrs. Marie Louis 
 Rosser states that she had seen her loved ones in No- 
 
204 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 vember. While passing out said, "I see my husband," 
 calling him by name. "Now I am going to that happy 
 land. Tommy is here to go with me." 
 
 Rev. Pilmer C. Archer, of Chesterfield Court House, 
 Va., was holding a revival fifteen miles from Rich- 
 mond, Va. In the midst of his sermon sees his sister 
 and hears her that had just passed over ; looks at his 
 watch and it was 12.3Q a.m., and said to the congre- 
 gation, "I hear my sister calling me. I must go." She 
 did pass out about that time. 
 
 In 1903, T. G. Ezell, at Pickensville, Ala., aged 
 eighty-four, before passing out said, "Why, here is 
 my brother ; I have not seen him in fifty- four years." 
 Also recognized and talked to his wife that had passed 
 over eight years prior ; said he was in better company 
 than those in the flesh. 
 
 San Antonio, Texas, May 23, 1891. Miss Mamie 
 McGill, one day before passing out, sees the street of 
 New Jerusalem, also the flowers. 
 
 Mrs. H. T. Norment, Orlando, Fla., in August, 
 1890: "I saw my baby boy that passed over three 
 months prior; felt his presence and looking up saw 
 him. Just the same features, beautified. He smiled 
 to me and I felt a satisfied feeling." 
 
 Memphis, Tenn., June 19, 1907. Mrs. W. D. Har- 
 ris states Stanley Johnson Morris, aged seven months, 
 passed over May 19, 1901 ; sees her baby twice, and 
 he said clearly and distinctly, "God loves mamma." 
 
Review of Part of the Evidence 205 
 
 "I felt distinctly the impression of his body on my 
 arm, and at another time he was near me and con- 
 soled me." 
 
 864 Raiborne Avenue, Memphis, Tenn. Mrs. Mary 
 Cummings says her son, Logan Cummings, passed 
 over. Born in 1874, aged thirty-seven years, passed 
 over March 26, 1901. "Seven weeks after his pass- 
 ing over, I was lying on a couch in broad daylight, 
 about 12 m. Saw my son come in through the east 
 window and pass through the room. He recognized 
 me and I saw him distinctly. 
 
 Statement of Mrs. Cummings : Her husband, Mr. 
 Holmes Cummings, passed over October 25, 1896. 
 "About two years after I saw him clearly and dis- 
 tinctly standing at the foot of my bed. It was about 
 4 a.m. when I saw him. I was impressed by him that 
 he was my guardian spirit. I was fully awake and 
 saw him clearly." 
 
 Miss Guerry Evenson Guerry, East Macon, Ga., 
 passed over April 1, 1906; saw her mother, who had 
 passed over twenty years before, in broad daylight. 
 This was ten days before she passed over, when in 
 good health. 
 
 Mrs. Mary J. Whitner, of Stanford, Fla., saw her 
 brother that had passed over in South Carolina, and 
 he told her had passed over, in broad daylight, in the 
 presence of her family; and he had passed over at 
 just about that time. 
 
206 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Brooksville, Miss., 1906. Mrs. A. K. Marshall sees 
 on February 4, 1878, her husband's first wife, that 
 pushes her away from her husband. 
 
 Dalton, Ga., July 25, 1906. May 8, 1906, Mrs. 
 Cornelia Lowery, while passing out, was in a disso- 
 ciated state about fifteen minutes. She revived and 
 said, "I have come back to bid you good-by. The old 
 and the young are over there, same as here. I heard 
 them singing and the angels singing, and Anna is the 
 sweetest; singer of them all." Anna was her younger 
 sister, who had passed over at the age of eighteen 
 months, sixteen years prior. Then welcomed the an- 
 gels that were there to take her home. 
 
 Rev. E. H. Bennett, D.D., pastor in Atlanta, Ga., 
 in passing over, said to his wife Carrie, 'There are 
 no valleys nor shadows ; it is all sunshine." 
 
 Tampa, Fla., November 6, 1907. Mrs. Mary A. 
 Blowers, aged seventy, passed over the 25th of Octo- 
 ber, 1902 ; was wide awake, saw her husband, War- 
 ren N. Blowers, who had passed over seven years 
 before. He came to her and took her to that happy 
 land. She heard the lovely music, and also took her 
 to bathe in a beautiful spring. 
 
 Dwight L. Moody sayed that he is "going up higher 
 into a house that is immortal, into a body that death 
 cannot touch and sin cannot taint, a body fashioned 
 like His glorious body.' Earth is receding, heaven is 
 approaching. God's holy angels are calling me. If 
 
Review of Part of the Evidence 207 
 
 this is death there is no valley. This is glorious ! I 
 have been within the gates ; I have seen the children 
 Erene and Dwight." These were his grandchildren 
 that had previously passed over." 
 
 Prof. A. M. C. Brasch, of Jacksonville, Fla., says 
 he saw his carnal body a separate body from his true 
 self. 
 
 Mrs. Ella Brasch, Jacksonville, Fla., says she was 
 separated from her carnal body, and her spiritual body 
 was along that great highway to the eternal land, and 
 she saw the gates ajar, and the spirit that was with 
 her told her she must return to the earth. 
 
 Louis Stevens, of Jacksonville, Fla., states that he 
 was absent from his earthly body, recognized himself, 
 his true body separated from his earthly body, and 
 went two hundred miles west of Jacksonville to his 
 old home; saw his brother John in the flesh and out 
 of the flesh; knows that his brother John had two 
 bodies, a carnal body and spiritual body; saw his 
 brother John's wife and baby in the flesh, and also 
 the doctor and his nephew John in the flesh ; and saw 
 his brother John's first wife that had passed over 
 twenty years prior ; also his niece that had passed 
 over ten years before and an angel of the Lord, talked 
 with him; also noticed that his brother John had 
 passed out at 2.30, which did occur, while his carnal 
 body laid in the hospital at Jacksonville. 
 
208 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Bede, who passed over in 735, saw the angels com- 
 ing for him and heard the heavenly music. 
 
 St. Anthony: " I have been surrounded by a band 
 of good angels and spirits and joyfully joined in sing- 
 ing with them." 
 
 Tertullian tells us there is a sister among them who 
 in ecstasy sees souls and they were in bodily shape, 
 were not naked spirits. It appeared to be a spirit, 
 neither entity nor formless, but so substantial that it 
 might be touched. Tender and shining, color like air 
 and in everything resembled the human form. 
 
 Ingratus tells us some of the church have divine 
 knowledge of things to come, some have visions, some 
 heal the sick by laying on of hands, others bring to 
 light the soul of man and angels, and expounded the 
 mysteries of God. 
 
 Emanuel Swedenborg: "I have," says he, "for 
 these twenty years or more conversed daily with spir- 
 its and angels. They have human form, the appear- 
 ance of men, and I have a thousand times seen them, 
 for I have spoken with them as man to man with 
 other men, often with several together." 
 
 Dr. Adam Clark: "I believe that there is a super- 
 natural or spiritual world in which human spirits, both 
 good and bad, live in a state of conscientiousness. I 
 believe that any of these spirits may, according to the 
 order of God in the law of their place of residence, 
 
Review of Part of the Evidence 209 
 
 have intercourse with this world and become visible 
 to mortals." 
 
 Harriet Beecher Stowe : She believes in the union 
 of the two worlds — natural and spiritual — and that 
 our fathers believed what they said, but we don't. 
 
 Rev. H. L. Austin, M.A., LL.D., Canada: "I have 
 seen again and again these phenomena produced, hear 
 voices from the angel world, caught their living words 
 of instructions, and inspiration fresh from angelic lips ; 
 seen their forms materialize and de-materialize like a 
 cloud vanishing from sight, and held them by the 
 hands." 
 
 There is no death. An angel form 
 Walks o'er the earth with silent tread ; 
 
 He bears our best loved things away, 
 And then we call them dead. 
 
 — E. Bukver Lytton. 
 
 There is no death. What seems so is transition, 
 
 This life of mortal breath 
 Is but a suburb of life Elysian, 
 
 Whose portals we call death. 
 
 — Longfellow. 
 
 Rev. Lyman Abbott: "Our dear ones are close by 
 us. A spiritual world surrounds us. They know us. 
 We are separated from it only by our dullness, and I 
 wonder why many, many of the followers of Christ 
 haven't known a like communion of the saints and 
 risen dead." 
 
 Sir Oliver Lodge, F.R.S., Dr., E.S., LL.B., profes- 
 
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210 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 sor of Bingham, England, says, "It is our privilege 
 through faithful service to enter unto the life eternal 
 and the communion of saints and the peace of God/' 
 
 Dr. J. M. Peebles, M.D., M.A., Ph.D., Battle Creek, 
 Mich., says he personally knows that the dead are 
 alive, knows that friends departed live and manifest 
 to us all that the angels of God are about us and ad- 
 minister to us. 
 
 Capt. Chas. F. P. Chase states that he was 
 wounded and his carnal body lay for two days on the 
 battlefield of Gettysburg as dead and that he saw it 
 as it lay on the ground, the wounds on his body and 
 clothing torn, and his true self, the spirit, floated above 
 it and observed it. He was also in the suburbs of 
 heaven, heard lovely music, only separated as by a 
 mist, and saw many inhabitants of that lovely land, 
 but none that he knew, and they all seemed to know 
 each other as one great family. 
 
 Here we have an officer of the English army that 
 through the effect of gas experienced dissociation, 
 sees his body on the bed, sees his spirit a separate 
 body, in the spirit reads a book, goes through a wall, 
 sees a comrade drawing charts, tries to make himself 
 known, looked down the street, goes to the railway 
 yard to a tunnel that he had never seen before or 
 heard of, and like many others in this world he still 
 doesn't believe in a continuance of life. 
 
 A lady experiences a separation of the spiritual body 
 
Review of Part of the Evidence 211 
 
 from the carnal body, sees her true self, tries to pick 
 up instruments, and knows that she has two bodies, 
 one a spiritual, one a carnal. 
 
 Paris, France. Camille Flammarion pays positive 
 observation ; proves the existence of psychic world 
 as real as the one we inhabit, and is known to our 
 physical senses. We live in the midst of an invisible 
 world. 
 
 Sir Walter Crooks, England, says he has touched, 
 photographed and even kissed materialized bodies of 
 spirits. 
 
 William T. Stead, founder and editor of the Revieiv 
 of Reviews, of London, England, states he has not 
 only had communication from the dead, but to have 
 fully written down the thoughts of living men miles 
 away. 
 
 Mrs. Titus, of Lebanon, N. H., leaves her carnal 
 body and finds Miss Berta Huse's body in fifteen feet 
 of water, all covered by brush and drift except the 
 foot, where it was so dark that a diver could not see 
 her down in the water fifteen feet deep. 
 
 A spirit warns and guides Horace J. Seaver, engi- 
 neer of the Illinois Central Railway, and saves the 
 lives of a thousand veterans. 
 
212 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Some of the Spiritual Experiences of the 
 Author. 
 
 Given by the Master to Qualify Him to Write this 
 Volume. 
 
 Fortelling the destruction of Jacksonville six months 
 prior. j 
 
 Appearing to C. W. Rush, in Dunnellton, Fla., in 
 the spirit. A case of dissociation. 
 
 A vision of the spirit upon me. Foretells no gen- 
 eral freeze in Florida for twelve years from Novem- 
 ber 8, 1899. 
 
 First dissociation, visits a river of that land of love 
 and light ; sees his wife and hears her distinctly. 
 
 Third dissociation or separation of the living soul 
 from his carnal body; visits the land of darkness, 
 also the land of love and glory ; sees and knows his 
 grandfather, wife, father, mother, sisters and children 
 and aunt. 
 
 Basis of Proof. 
 
 A basis of the Psychical Research Society : When a 
 large number of facts are satisfactorily established all 
 or most ot them can be most easily explained in the 
 light of some particular theory, that theory is re- 
 garded as scientifically established. We have another 
 rule, and in all general courts it takes only two or 
 three witnesses to establish a fact. And these are only 
 a few of the witnesses. I have no doubt that if time 
 and space were allowed, one million could easily be 
 obtained. Therefore we have, without a doubt, proved 
 the identity, individuality and by continuance of life, 
 immortality. 
 
CONCLUSION 
 
 First, we prove that we are composed of spirit, 
 first principle, a portion of our heavenly Father, in- 
 distructible, therefore, eternal. Second, soul, also a 
 portion of our celestial body. Soul can be and is de- 
 stroyed by sin. Third, carnal body, or earthly body, 
 or shell, or tent, or tabernacle of our true body. The 
 living soul. Therefore we are a spirit with a soul 
 body enclosed in an earthly body. These are the triune 
 parts of man. 
 
 Again, first, as the spirit of man is indestructible, 
 in joy, or woe, it ever lives. Second, that which is 
 wrongfully called death, is an incident, in a continued 
 life, a life in a land of darkness, or death, Satan's 
 kingdom, or a life in a land of joy and glory, our 
 Master's kingdom. Third, that the land of darkness 
 exists, as well as the land of life and glory. Fourth, 
 that spirit birth is just transition to a higher and more 
 glorious state of life, through our Lord, and should 
 not be dreaded. 
 
 We have introduced in this volume five hundred and 
 ninety witnesses and over, who have seen and recog- 
 nized the living souls. This is the true bodies of in- 
 habitants of this earth after they have passed over. 
 
214 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Five hundred and forty witnesses and over who have 
 seen living souls in broad daylight and were fully 
 awake and fully reognized them, identified them and 
 individualized them. Ninety and over, all of whom 
 have witnessed of the spiritual world and continuance 
 of life after birth, which some call death. Thirty wit- 
 nesses and over not only see living souls, recognize 
 them absent from the earthly body, but also handle 
 them and know that they were or had been inhabitants 
 of this earth. Fifteen witnesses and over that state 
 they have been absent from the carnal body and in the 
 eternal body, saw themselves and saw their carnal 
 bodies and know that their living soul is their true 
 selves. Most of them have recognized all their sur- 
 roundings on earth as well as their surroundings in 
 that land of love, have been returned to the carnal 
 body and are living witnesses of dissociation and of 
 the land of love and of the elements of man. 
 
 If life is continued after birth (which some call 
 death), and they continue the same and do not age, 
 then is immortality established. The witnesses of this 
 day and century make statement of seeing their dear 
 ones that have passed over from two weeks to seventy 
 years, and all agree that they were the same, only 
 beautified. I know by what I saw that my grand- 
 father and mother were just as young by my uncle 
 and aunt's letters. I know that my father and Aunt 
 Ann and my sister and wife looked younger, beauti- 
 
Conclusion 215 
 
 fied and lovely. My children looked just as young, but 
 a little larger, but glorified. Paul, in I Corinthians, 
 fifteenth chapter, says that Jesus was seen by five 
 hundred persons besides his apostles during the forty 
 days that he visited this earth, and afterwards by him 
 as one born out of due season. Pilate in his letters 
 corroborates this statement when writing to Caesar, 
 and also states, "I and my wife also saw him." 
 
 The two sons of Simon, the high priest, that took 
 Jesus in his arms and blessed him, who were amongst 
 those of the first resurrection, state that Jesus took 
 Adam, carnal father of us all, by the hand and led him 
 to that land of glory, His kingdom. This was about 
 four thousand years, at least, after he, Adam, had 
 passed over; and if the same change took place, 
 which no doubt did, he was then and there beautified, 
 almost if not altogether the same as he was, minus 
 his earthly body, as when the angels drove him from 
 paradise. At least we have evidence that he was alive 
 three thousand seven hundred and seventy years after 
 he passed over ; Abraham about eighteen hundred and 
 sixty years ; Job about fifteen hundred and twenty- 
 three years ; David about one thousand years. Moses 
 appeared fourteen hundred and sixty years after he 
 passed over, when he appeared with Elijah on the 
 mount. By the apostles Peter, James and John's 
 statement, he was beautified with just such a body as 
 so many have seen their dear ones clothed in, and rai- 
 
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 ments just the same. Why not? He was just a man, 
 redeemed, beautified and glorified by the love of our 
 dear heavenly Father and His only Son Jesus. And 
 by the reports of the apostles, he was very much alive, 
 talked, was seen and known in broad daylight, and 
 understood. 
 
 Until about thirty-five years ago, man was search- 
 ing astrology, astronomy, geology, in fact, everything 
 except man, to ascertain what man was. 
 
 In 1882 there was organized in England a Society 
 of Psychical Research, by Prof. Henry Sidwick, Bal- 
 four Stewart, W. F. Barrett, also Gladstone — the 
 statesman of the world — was allied with them and 
 others. 
 
 In America, in 1885, Profs. William James, S. P. 
 Langley, Rev. Herbert Newton and others, organized 
 the American branch. They said there were rumors 
 and statements regarding the soul of man ever since 
 his creation. Are they false? Are they true? Let us 
 investigate man. They have accepted nothing but the 
 truth, testing and proving all things, and what they 
 and their friends have discovered has surprised them, 
 as well as the world at large. They have found a great 
 deal more was true than was stated, and many of 
 them have come to the conclusion that the spirit is an 
 individual entity, immortal, and that heaven is its 
 home; that this world is only a workshop, as it were, 
 where spirits are made and some perfected, and that 
 
Conclusion 217 
 
 when released from this shell that we call body, as a 
 caterpillar changes from a creeping insect to a citizen 
 of the air — a butterfly — so when we pass over we be- 
 come citizens of the universe. 
 
 The question is often asked, ''Where is the land of 
 glory?" With Young, and many of our scientific men, 
 also many divines, and by reason of the light and 
 glorious scenes beheld by those passing over, includ- 
 ing reports of those that have been here in the living 
 soul, and my own biblical and scientific knowledge, as 
 well as experience, I would say that it enfolds this 
 earth of ours, above our gross atmosphere and through 
 the same, and often passes close to us, or we through 
 it. In other words, it enfolds this sphere without a 
 vacuum, as there is none in space. The land of dark- 
 ness, as the ancients thought and believed, is in the 
 inside of this world of ours. These latter facts I 
 hope to see soon established. The reports of those 
 that have been there in the living soul, do not differ 
 any more in proportion to the size of the land visited 
 than did Columbus, Americus and Cabot differ in re- 
 gard to this continent, North and South America, 
 when it was first discovered. They have simply landed 
 in different parts of an immense spiritual inorganic 
 world, and always agree to the general principles and 
 descriptions. 
 
 Well, indeed, did Joel prophesy six hundred years 
 before Jesus, that the wonders in heaven shall be 
 
218 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 shown. Joel 2 : 30 : "I will show wonders in the 
 heavens." Jesus says, Luke 21 : 11 : "And great signs 
 from heaven," and Acts 2:17: Peter in that great 
 sermon of sermons, when three thousand were be- 
 gotten of the spirit, says, "I will pour forth my spirit 
 and they shall prophesy, and I will show wonders in 
 the heavens above." That is what became more 
 prominent since the birth of Jesus, and will be contin- 
 ued until the end of the world, and was to be espe- 
 cially strong in the last days as was prophesied, is 
 and shall be. We positively prove one million to a 
 cipher, that you are a spirit in the flesh going on to 
 eternity. You may dodge taxes, but never transition. 
 It may come to-night, may be to-morrow, but certain 
 soon you must pass over. Only a few years at the 
 most, saved or lost, you still live. Why not give a lit- 
 tle time to the clothing of your spirit? Your soul is 
 all and all to you; lost, you are lost; saved, you are 
 saved ; unless you call on the Lord, then only a tramp, 
 a naked spirit, no soul to speak of, which shall it be? 
 Some will say, "Why, this is a new doctrine." You err, 
 my dear one. It is the doctrine that Jehovah pro- 
 claimed, that Jesus by Moses and Elijah illustrated 
 through the powers of the blessed trinity ; the doctrine 
 of Job and the ancients, the prophets and Jesus, Son 
 of our heavenly Father by birthright, the apostles and 
 early fathers, that nearly all the religions have been 
 founded upon. Doctrine of our fathers. Doctrine that 
 
Conclusion 219 
 
 Satan and all his powers have hurled their force 
 against since man's creation. The only time they 
 came near crushing it out, was during the dark ages. 
 Doctrine of the divine old Bible, it is eternal, it is 
 true; but I am sorry to say that many of those that 
 claim to be followers of Jesus still adhere to the the- 
 ology of the dark ages. Oh, Father, Master, Holy 
 Spirit, may they awake to the great truths of spirit- 
 uality, and not let the body of spirits carry of! the 
 dear old banner and injure one of thy greatest forts 
 and refuges to spirits bound for the eternal land. 
 
 Also, please note I introduce as witnesses all ages 
 of all ages, also some who are not believers in our 
 Master. This is to show that our dear heavenly Fa- 
 ther and Master sends the rain of spirit upon the un- 
 just as well as the just. They love the deepest dyed 
 sinner as much as the saint. All are spirits in the 
 flesh and children of one Father. They love us all. 
 The trouble is that the best of us do not love them as 
 we should, but the greatest trouble is that the unbe- 
 liever and sinner don't love them, nor will not until 
 begotten of the spirit. Indeed the spirit is just now 
 being poured out upon all flesh, and the wonders in 
 heaven shown as it was prophesied, and as it will be. 
 
 As to Truthfulness. 
 All of these ninety-three witnesses, except those 
 where I have quoted authors, and from authors I hav*» 
 personally visited, and have investigated as to the 
 
220 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 truth of all statements in this volume, believe them to 
 be facts ; and they are all people of high standing and 
 noted for their truthfulness. Two or three witnesses 
 establish a fact, while here we have ninety-three, some 
 of them alive, and can be investigated as to the truth 
 of the statements in this book ; and all agree as to the 
 identity, individuality and continuance of life after 
 birth (wrongfully called death). Therefore continu- 
 ance of life is established. 
 
 Identity. 
 
 Each and every one has recognized their dear ones 
 as their own, and each has been recognized by them 
 either on the flesh or out of the flesh. Saul recognized 
 Samuel, Dives Lazarus, Lazarus Dives. Jesus was 
 recognized by His apostles, and over five hundred 
 others at one time. All witnesses in this volume rec- 
 ognize their dear ones as their own — and no other. 
 Do you think for one moment that we will know less 
 in our future state than we do now in the flesh? I 
 know we know more, and understand all our sur- 
 roundings better whether saved or lost. 
 
 Therefore, Identity is established beyond a doubt. 
 
 Individuality. 
 Are we not each an individuality, billions of faces 
 and forms, none exactly alike? In this volume mother 
 recognizes child as her child ; child, mother as mam- 
 ma; mamma, as separate individuals, brother, sister, 
 
Conclusion 221 
 
 wife, husband and husband wife. You cannot be me 
 nor I you, neither here nor in eternity. Moses was not 
 Elisha, nor Elisha Moses. Each one recognizes them- 
 selves as individuals, separate from others, as they do 
 on earth before passing over. Samuel, Saul — Saul, 
 Samuel. The rich man recognizes Lazarus and Abra- 
 ham; one he had seen in the flesh and the other not. 
 The apostles and others recognized jesus as Jesus 
 their own Lord. Each one that has been in those 
 spheres recognized their parents, children, wives and 
 husbands, also friends, talked to them, embraced them, 
 and know them as such. Each one passing over sees 
 their dead ones and recognizes them as such. I know 
 that when I was in that land of love my children were 
 just my own, my wife my very own, only more beau- 
 tiful; my father was my own father; my mother my 
 own mother ; my sisters, my own ; even my grand- 
 father, whom I had not seen on earth, my own grand- 
 father. I identified each one as a separate individual 
 in their own respective relations, and you my reader 
 will do the same. 
 
 Therefore, Individuality is established. 
 
 Immortality. 
 Immortality, perpetuity, everlasting, forever, eter- 
 nal, are all synonomous, and mean the same thing. 
 Let us now look at the Old and New Testament on 
 this question. Isa. 45: 17: "But Israel shall be saved 
 by Jehovah with an everlasting salvation. Ye shall 
 
222 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 not be put to shame nor confounded, world without 
 end, for thus saith Jehovah that createth the heavens." 
 Matt. 19:25: "Shall inherit eternal life." Matt. 25: 
 46: "And these shall go away into everlasting punish- 
 ment, but the righteous unto everlasting life." Luke 
 18:30: "And in the world to come eternal life." 
 John 4:24: "He that believeth on Him that sent me 
 hath eternal life." John 6:47: "Verily, verily, I say 
 unto you, He that believeth hath life eternal." John 
 10:29: "I give unto thee eternal life, and they shall 
 never perish." Acts 13:48: "Ordained to eternal 
 life." Rom. 6 : 25 : "The gift of God is eternal life." 
 Gal. 6:8: "He that serveth unto the spirit shall reap 
 eternal life." (In the original, everlasting life.) Paul, 
 speaking of Jesus, Heb. 5 : "He became unto all that 
 obey him the author of eternal salvation." I John 
 2 : 25 : "This is the promise, even the life eternal." 
 Rev. 1:18: Jesus says, "I am alive forevermore" 
 (and we shall be like him). John 14: 19: "Because 
 I live, ye shall live also." 
 
 Now, if we establish beyond a doubt the continu- 
 ance of life after birth (wrongfully called death), and 
 that they do not age any, then without a doubt it is 
 eternal. We prove fact No. 3. Each and every one of 
 these five hundred and forty-three and over wit- 
 nesses states that the recognition of their dear ones 
 was perfect, the child its own mamma only eighteen 
 months' old; mothers their children, especially those 
 
Conclusion 223 
 
 who some ten years after saw them in broad day- 
 light, some twenty years after, twenty-six years. One 
 brother recognizes his brother fifty-four years, I my 
 grandfather over seventy years, and my mother sixty 
 years, father, forty-five years, wife, thirty years, chil- 
 dren, twenty years : were all beautified and aged none. 
 In fact, those whom I had known on earth looked 
 younger. Adam was recognized at the first resurrec- 
 tion about four thousand years after his departure 
 from this life, as Adam, carnal father of us all. So 
 was Noah two thousand, three hundred and fifty-one 
 years ; Abraham about eighteen hundred and sixty 
 years ; Job about fourteen hundred and sixty years 
 after his passing over. Moses and Elijah were recog- 
 nized, Moses fourteen hundred and sixty years after 
 his passing over, when on the mount with Jesus, and 
 he was beautiful and bright, talked and was under- 
 stood, and known to be Moses, and our Father ap- 
 proved of this act of Jesus, showing what his eternal 
 kingdom was composed of, living souls, man beauti- 
 fied and glorified, witnesses of a continued life, yea, 
 life eternal, through Him who was, is and ever will 
 be Jehovah. Our Father approved this by this voice 
 when He says, "This is my beloved Son in whom I 
 am well pleased. Hear ye Him." Now we have proved 
 the fact of ten years' duration, twenty and twenty- 
 six, fifty-four, yea fifteen hundred years' continuance, 
 yes, about four thousand continuance, why not, as the 
 
224 What We Are and What We Will Be 
 
 Bible says, eternal ? Yes, we are a part of our Father 
 and children of Israel or children of Israel by adop- 
 tion, therefore shall be saved by Jehovah with an ever- 
 lasting salvation, and shall not be put to shame nor 
 confounded, world without end, for thus saith Jeho- 
 vah, that createth the heavens, and as Jesus said, 
 "I am alive forevermore," and we shall be like Him, 
 a spirit in the flesh now, a spirit in the land of dark- 
 ness, lost, or a spirit, a living soul, a spirit clothed 
 upon with soul, beautified as angels ; and as I have 
 said before, eternal, evermore, in the heavens or on 
 this earth, when it is purified and added to that great 
 spiritual kingdom, our Father's country, our Master's 
 home, yes, our home where all will be united in fam- 
 ily circles, our father ours, out mother ours, our dear 
 ones ours, our children our very own. 
 
 These are only a few of the sands picked up on the 
 beach of the great ocean of time and knowledge, but 
 truths and facts established. The proofs of continu- 
 ance of life beyond spiritual birth (or what some call 
 death) again is established; also that the life is eter- 
 nal, everlasting, forevermore therefore is immortal. 
 Therefore immortality is established beyond a single 
 doubt. And may our Lord Jesus Christ, who lives 
 forevermore, and the Holy Spirit, convince you of 
 these truths, that we may meet fully beautified and 
 like Him in our Father's kingdom. 
 
 Yours in Christ Jesus our Lord, forevermore, 
 
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