/ / 7 SPEECH OF ME. CLAY, OF KENTUCKY, IN SUPPORT OF HIS PROPOSITIONS TO COMPROMISE ON THE SLAVERY QUESTION. ^ ,d REVISED EDITION. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES, FEBRUARY 5, 1850. The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to the consideration of the following resolutions, submitted on Tuesday last by the Senator from Kentucky, (Mr. Clay:) It being desirable for the peace, concord, and harmony of the Union of these States, • to settle and adjust amicably all existing questions of controversy between them, arising out of the institution of slavery, upon a fair, equitable, and just basis : Therefore, 1st. Resolved, That CaUfornia, with suitable boundaries, ought upon her application to be admit;ed as one of the States of this Union, without the imposition by Congress of any restriction in respect to the exclusion or introduction of slavery within those boundaries. 2d, Resolved, That as slavery does not exist by law, and is not likely to be intro- duced into any of the territory acquired by the United States from the Republic of Mexico, it is inexpedient for Congress to provide iiy law either for its introduction into or exclu- sion from any part of the said territory ; and that appropriate Territorial Governments ought to be established by Congress in *all the said territory not assigned as the bounda- ries of the proposed State of California, without the adoption of any restriction or con- dition on the subject of slavery. 3d. Re>o'ved, That the western boundaiy of the State of Texas ought to be fixed on the Kio del Norte, commencing one marine league from its mouth, and running up that river to the southern line of New Mexico ; thence with that line eastwardiy, and socon- tiiiuing in the same direction to the line as established between the United Slates and Spain, excluding any portion of ISew Mexico, whether lying on the east or west of that river. 4th. Resolved, That it be proposed to the State of Texas that the United States will provide for the payment of all that portion of the legitimate and bona fide public debt of that State contracted prior to its annexation to the United States, and for wbich the du- ties on foreign imports were pledged by the said State to its creditors, not exceeding the sum of S , in consideration of the said duties so pledged having been no longer applicable to that object after the said annexation, but having thenceforward become payable to the United States ; and upon the condition also that the said State of Texas shall, by some solemn and authentic act of her Legislature, or of a convention, relin- quish to the United States any claim which it has to any part of New Mexico. 5th. Resolved, That it is inexpedient to abolish slavery in the District of Columbia, whilst that institution continues to exist in the State of Maryland, without the consent «f that ?!tate, without the consent of the people of the District, and without just com- pensation to the owners of slaves within the District. Printed by Towers, at $2 per hundred copies. l^ ^ 6th. But Ri- olv d, That it is expedient to prohibit within the District the slave trade, in slaves brought into it from States or plact* beyond the limits of the District, either to be solil therein aa meicliaudize, or to be trausporttd toother markets without the District of Colunibia. 7th. Resolved, That more efiecfual provision out to be made by law, acconiing to the requin ment of the Constitution, for the restitution and delivery of persons bound to service or labor in any State, who may escape into any other State or Territory in the Union. And 8th. Rennhfd, That Congress has no power to prohibit or obstruct the trade in slaves hetween the slaveholding ;^lates ; but that ihc admission or exclusion of slaves brought from one into another of tiiem, depends exclusively upon their own particular )aw8. Mr. CLAY nddre.s.sed the Senato .-is follows: Mr. PiiKsiny.vT, never, on any former occasion, have I risen under feelings of such ^eep fiolicitudc. I have witnessed many periods of great anxiety, of peril, and of dan- ger even to the country ; but I have never before arisen to addre.ss any a.ssenibly m) op- pressed. 80 appdied, so anxious. And. sir, I hope it will not be out of plac« to do here what again and again I have done in my private chamber — to implore of Him wjio holds the destinies of nations and individuals in his hands to bestow upon our country hia bles^i: gs— to hfstovv upon our [jeoplc all bis hle8.*ings— to cahn the violence and rage of party - to sti 1 passion — to allow reason once more to resume iis empire. And may I not a.vk of Him, to bestow upon his humble servant, now before Him, the blessings of his sm les, of strength, and of ability, to perform the work which lies before him ? Sir, I have said that 1 have witnessed other anxious periods in the history of our country ; and if I wrre to mention — tiT trace to their original source — the cause of all our present dangers and difficulties, 1 should a.scril>c them to the violence and intemperance of party spirit. Wc have h;id testimony of this in the progress of this session, and Senators, however they may differ in other matters, concur in acknowledging the exist- ence (if that cause in originating the unhappy diflercnces which prevail throughout the country upon this subject of the institution of slavery. Parties, in their endcavors^o ot)tain the one the ascendency over the other, catch at evcrv passing and floating plank, in order to add streiigth and power to themselves. We havi- been told by two honorable Senators, (Mr. Hale and Mr. Phelps,) that the parries at the North have each in its turn wooed and endeavored to obtiiin the assistance of a small party called Abolitionists, in order that the scale in its favor might preponderate over its adversaries. Lei us look wherever vue may, we sec too many indications of the existence of tlie spirit and intem- perance of party. I might go to other lejislative bodies besides our own. I might diaw from those Legislatures all the melancholy truth upon which I am dwelling ; but, sir, I need not pass out of this <'a,')itol itself— I say it with all deference and respect to that portion of Congress assembled in the other wing of the Capitol. But what have we seen there during tlris very session? One whole week — I think it was an entire week —exhausted in the vain endeavor to elect a Doorkeeper of the House I [Much confusion prevailed in the lobbies and the avenues leading to the Senate chamtur ] Mr. CASS. Will the honorable Senator pause a few moments, until order is res- tored here' The VI E PRESIDENT. The Sergeant at Arms v?iil see that the avenues to the galleries and this chamber are closed, and that a sufficient number withdraw from them to give room tor those who are in, and to restore order. M'. FOtlTE. Let all the disorderly be taken out. Mr. BADGEK There are persons in the ante-rosras that, because they c^innot hear themselves, will not let others hear. I would suggest the propriety of extending the wder t'j their case also. Mr. CASS. Is the Sergeant at Arms in the chamber ? The VICIE PRESIDENT. He is discharging his duty in Tcetoring order. Mr. BAbGER Let the ante rooms be entirely closed. Order having at length been restored, Mr. CLAY resumed. Mr. Preeident, what was the queetion, in this struggle to elect a Boorkec^>er' It was not as regarded the man, or the qualifications of the man, best ii(lapiee- Bcve that the resolutions which I have prepared fulfil that object. I believe that you will find upon thai cartful, rational, and attentive examination of them which 1 think they deserve, that by thfm, neiiher party makes any concession of prini iple at all, though the con<'essions of fbrbeaiance are ample. In the next place, in resjwct to the slaveholding .'"tales, there are resolutions making concessions to them by the class ol opposite States, without any compensation whatever being rendered by them, to the non«slaveholding States. I think every one of these characteristics which I have assigned to the measures ■which I propose is susceptible of clear, satisfactory demonstration, by an attentive peru eal and critical examination of the resolutions themselves. Let us take up the first, sir. The tiist resolution. Mr. President, as you are aware, relates to California; and it declares that California, with suitable limits, ought to he admitted as a meml'.er of this Union, without the imposition of any restrictiim, either to interdict or to introduce sla- very within lier limits. Now, is there any concession in this re.^olution by either party to the oiher? I know that gentlemen wh > come from the slaveholding Slates say that the jNorlh gets ail that it desires But by whom does it get it.' Dees it gel it by sny action of Congress? If slavery be interdicted in California, is it done by (.'ongress, by this Covernment.^ No, sir; tj^ interdiction is imposed by California herself And has it not been the doctrine of allparties, that when a State is about to be admitted into the Union, that Stale has a right to decide for itself whether it will or will not have within its limits slavei^y.' The great principle which was in contest upon the mem- orable occasion of the introduction of Missouri into the Union was, whether it was com- petent oi was not competent for Congress to impcf cany restriction which should exist after «he became a member of the llnion? V\ e, who were in favor of the admission of Mis- souri, contenclcd that, by the Constitution, no such restriction could be imposed. We rontei.dcd that, whenever she was once admitted into ihe Union, she had ail ihe rights and priviie;.ies ot any pre existing State of the Union; and that of these rights and privi- leges, one was to decide for herself whether slavery should or should not exist within hcT hinits — that she had as much a right to decide upon the introduction of slavery, or Qpun its abolition, as New York had a right to decide upon the introduction or abolition of slavery ; and that she stood among her peers equsi, and invested with all the privile- ge! that aiij one of the original thirteen States, aiid those subsequently admiited, had a right to enjoy. And so i thought that tho.sc who have been contending with so much earnestness and willi so much perseveranre for the Wilmot Proviso, ought to reflect that even if they c«uld carry thtir object, and adopt ihe Wihnot Proviso, it would cease the moment any "State to whi'se territory it was applicable came to be admitte.sequent enactments to be introduced into the bill by which territorial governments shall be established. I can only say that that jsecoud resolution, even without the declaration of these two truths, would be more acoeptable to me tlian with them. But I could not forget that I was proposing a sc heme of ar- rangement and compromise; and I could not, therefore, depart from tlie duty which the preparation of the scheme seemed to me to impose, while we ask upon the one side a surrender of their favorite measure, of offering upon the other side some compensation for that surrender or sacrifice. Mr. President, the first of these truths is, that by law slavery does not exist within the territories o.-ded to us by the republic of Mexico. It is a misfortune in the various weighty and important topics which ase connected with the subject that J am now addressing you upon, that any one of the five or six embrac love jui^tice and truth. Far different would, I fear, he our case, if, unhappily, we should be led into war, into civil war-- if the two parts of this country should be placed in a hostile po.sition towards each other, in order to carry rlavcry into new territories acquired from Mexico. Mr. President, we have heard — all of us have read — of the efforts of France to propagate — what, on the continent of Europe'' Not i^lavery, sir, not slavery, but the rights of man; and we know the (ate of her ellbrts of ptopagandism of that kind. But i(, unhappily, we should be involved in war, in civil war, betw een the two parts of this confederacy, in "whit h the effort upon the one side should be to restrain the introduction of slavery into the new territories, and upon the other side to force its introduction there, what a spec- tacle should we present to the astonishment of mankind, in an effoit, not to propagate ri; hts, but — I must say it, though I trust it will be understood to be said with no design to excite feeling — a war to propagate wrongs in the territories thus acquired from Mexico. It would be a war in which we .should have no sympathies, no good wishes ; in which all mankind would be a.:ainst us ; in which our own history itself would be against us ; for, from the commencement of the revolution down to the preserit time, we have cons: wtly reproached our British ancestors for the introduction of slavery into this country. And allow me to say, that, in my opinion, it is one of the best defences which ^ can bo made to |)resprve the institution of slavery in this country, that it was forced upon \us a;a!ii3t the wis'iei ot our ancestors — of our own American colonial ancestors — and \y the cupidity of our B-dtish commercial ancestors. 8 Tlie power, then, IMr. President, in my opinion — and I extend it to the introducficm as well as to the prohibition of slavery in the new territories — does exist in Congress j and I think there is this important distincti(m between slavery outside of the States and slavery inside of the States; that all out^^ide of the States is debatable, and all inside of the States is not debat;ible. The Government has no riu;ht to attack the institution with- in the States; but whether she has, and to what extent she has or has not, the right to attack slavery outside of the States, is a debatable question— one upon which men may honorably and fairly differ; and however it may be decided, furnishes, I trust, no just occasion for breaking up this glorious Union of ours. I am not going to take up that part of the subject which relates to the power of Congress to legislate on slavery — I shall hive occasion to make some observations upon that subject inthecourseof my remarks — whether in this Dif^ttict of Columbia or in the territories; but I must say in a few words that I think there are two sources of jjower, either of which is sutncient, in my judgment, to authorize the exercise of the power either to introduce or keep out slavery, outside of the !:^tates and within the territories. Mr. Presi- dent, I shall not take up time, of which so much has been consumed already, to show that the claust; which '."ives to Congress the power to make needful rules and reg\ilati(ms respecting the territory and other property ol the United Slates, conveys the power to legislate tor the territories. I caimot concur with my worthy friend — and I use the term in^its best and most emphatic sense— my friend from Michigan, (Mr. Cass) — for I believe we have known each other longer than I have known, and longer than he has known, any other Senator in this hall— I say I cannot concur with that honorable Senator, though I entertain the most profound respect for the opinion which he has advanced adver.se to my own ; hut I must say, that when a point is settled by all the elementary authori- ties, and by the uniform interpretation and action of every department of our Govern- ment— leo-islative, executive, and judicial— and when that point has been Fettled during a period of lifty years, and never was seriously disturbed until recently, I think that if we are to regard anything as fixed and settled under the administration of this Constilu- tution of ours, it is the question which has been thus invariably and uniformly settled. Or, are we to come to the conclusion that notbincr — nothing upon earth is settled under this Constitution, but the principle that everything is unsettled? Mr. President, we are to recollect that it is very possible — that it is, indeed, quite jitely that when that Cunstitut on was formed, the application of it to such territories as Louisiana, Florida, California, and New Mexico, was never within the contemplation of the framers of that instrument. It will be recollected that, when that Constitution was formed, the whole country northwest of the Ohio was unpeopled ; and it must be recollected, also, that the exercise of the power to make governments for territories in their infant state is in the nature of the power temporary, and such as must terminate whenever they have acquired a population competent to self government. Sixty thou- sand is the number specified in the ordinance of 17b;7. IVow, sir, recollect that, when this Constitution was adopted, that territory was unpeopled; and how was il possible that Congress, to whom it had been ceded, for the connnon benefit of the ceding States and the o°ther States of the Un;on, had no power whatever to declare what description of settlers should occupy the public lands ? Suppose that Congress had taken up the notion that slavery would enhance the value of the land, and, with a view to replenish the pub- lic treasury and augment the revenue from that source, that the introduction of .slavery there would be more advantageous than its exclusion, would they not have had the right, under that clause which authorizes Congress to make the necessary "rules and regula- tions respecting the territory and other property belonging to the United States'' — would -they have no tight, discretion, or authority — whatever you may choose to call it— to say that anybody who chose to bring his slaves and settle upon the land and improve it should do so? It might be said that it would enhance the value of the property ; it would give importance to the country ; it would build up towns and villages; and in fine we may suppose that Congress might think that a greater amount of revenue might be derived from the waste lands by the introduction of slavery than could be secured by its exclusion ; and will it be contended, if they so thought, that they would have no right to make such a rule? Why, sir, remember how those settlements were made. They becran with very few persons Marietta was, I think, the first place settled in the north- west territory. My friend now before me (Mr. Corwin) will correct me if I am wrong. It was a small settlement, made by some two or three hundred persons from New England. Cincinnati was the next, and was settled by a handful of persons from New Jersey, perhaps, or some other of the tetates. Had those few settlers the ri"ht, from the moment they arrived there — a mere handful of men, who may have 9r planted themselves at Marietta or Cincinnati — to govern and dispose of the territories, or to govern themselves as a sovereit^n commnnity? or was it not in the mean time right and proper, and within the contemplation of the Constitution, that <-ongress, who owned the soil, acting under the anthority therein contained, should regulate the settlement of the soil, and govern the fettlers in those infant colonies until they should reach a suffi- cient degree of consideration, in respect of numbers and capacity for self government, to he constituted into more regular municipal organizations, and be allowed to govern themselves i' I will not further dwell upon this part of the subject. But I have said there is another source of power equally satisfactory in my mind— equally conclusive as that ■which relates specifically to the territories. This is the treaty making power — the ac- quiring power. Now, I put it to gentlemen, is there not at this moment a power some- where existing either to admit or exclude slavery from the territories acquired Irom Mexico? It is not an annihilated power. That is impossible. It is a substantive, actual, existing power. And where does itexist? Itexisted — no one, Ipresume, denies — in Mexico, prior to the cession of those territories. Mexico could have abolished slavery or have introduced slavery either in California or New Mexico. Now, that power must have been ceded. Who will deny that' Mexico has parted with the territory, and with it the sovereignty over the territory; and to whom did she transfer it? She transferred the territory and the sovereignty over the territory to the Government of the United States. The Government of the United States then acquired all the territory and all the sovereignty over that terri- tory which Mexico held in California and New Mexico prior to the cession of these ter- ritories. Sir, dispute that who can. The power exists, or it does not exist. No one will centend for its annihilation. It existed in Mexico. No one, I think, can deny that Mexico alienates her sovereignty over the territory to the Government of the United States. The Government ot the United States, therefore, possess all the powers which Mexico possessetl over those territories ; and the Government of the United States can do with reference to them — within, I admit, certain limits of the Constitution — whatever Mexico could have done. There are prohibitions upon the power of Congress within the Constitution, which prohibitions, I admit, must apply to Congress whenever it legis- lates, whether for the old States or the new teriitories; but within the scope of those prohibitions — and none of them restrain the exercise of the power of Congress upon the sulijcct of slavery — the powers of Congress aie coextensive and coequal with the powers of Mexico prior to the cession. Sir, with regard to this treaty-making power, all who have had any occasion to exam- ine into its character, and into the possible extent to which it may be carried, know that it is unlimited in its nature, excfpt in so far as any limitations may be found w'thin the Consiitution of the United States;' but upon this subject there is no limitation which prescribes the extent to which the power shall Ive exercised. I know, that it is argued that there is no grant of power, in express terms, in the Constitution over the subject of slavery. But there is no grant in the Constitution, spe- cifically, over a vast variety of subjects upon which the powers of Congress are unques- tionable. The major includes the minor. The general grant of power comprehends all the particulars of which that power consists. The power of acquisition by treaty draws with it the power to govern all the territory acquired If there be a power to acquire, there must be a power to govern ; and I think, therefore, without at present dwelling further upon this part of the subject, that from the two sources of authority in Congress to which I have referred may be traced the power of the Government of the United States to act upon the territories in general. I come now to the question of the extent of the power. I think it is a power adequate either to introduce or to exclude slavery. I admit the argument in both its forms of application. I admit that, if the power exists of excluding, the power must also exist of introducing or tolerating slavery within the territories. But I have been drawn off so far from the second resolution, which I have now under consideration, that I have almost lost it cut of view. In order, therefore, that we may come back un- derstandingly to the subject, I will again read it : Resolutd, That as slavery does not exist by law, and is not Ukely to be introduced into any of the territory acquired by the United States from the republic of Mexico, it is inexpedient for Congress to provide by law either for its introduction into, or exclusion from, any part of the said territory; and that appropriate territorial governments ought to he established by Congress in all of the said territory not assigned as the boundaries of the proposed State of California, without the adoption of any restriction or condition on the subject of slavery. 10 The other truth, as I respectfully and with great deference submit, is this : I propose to admit and announce that slavery is ni^t 'likely to be introduced into any of those ter- ritories. Weil, is not that the fact ? Is there a member of this body who doubts it' What has occurred within the last three montlis' In California, more than in any other portion of the ceJed territories, was it most probable, if slavery was adapted to the in- dustrial habits of the people, that slavery would be introduced ; yet wil'un the last three months slavery has been excluded by the vote — the unanimous vote — of the Convention, against its introduction — a vote, as I observed on a former occasion, not confnied to men from the non-slaveholdinj; States. There were men from the siaveholding States as well, who concurred in thit declaration ; and that declaration has been responded to by the people of California of a! Iciasses, and from all parts of the United States, and from for- eign countries. Well, if we come down to those mountainous ridges which abound in New Mexico, the nature of its soil, its barrenness, its unproductive character, everything that we know, everything that we h-^ar of it, must necessarily lead to the conclusion which I have mentioned, that slavery is not likely lo be introduced there. If it be true, then, that by I.iw slavery does not now exist in the territories — if it is not likely to be introduced into the territories — if \ou Senators here, or a majority of you, believe these truths, as I am persuaded a large majority of you do — where isthedif- ficulty in your announcing it to the whole world ' VV by hesitate or falter in the decla- ration of these indisputable truths' On the other hand, with regard to the ."^'enators from the free Stales, allow me to make a reference to ('alifornia in one or two other nb servations. When this feeling within the limits of your States was gotten up — when the V\ ilmot Proviso was disseminated through them did you not fear, whatever may have been the state of the facts — did you not at that time apprehend the introduction of sla- ver)' there' You did not know much in relation to the country or its inhabitants They were far distant from jou, and you were truly apprehensive that slavery might be intro- duced there, and you felt that the Wilmot Proviso was a necessary medsure of prevention. It was in this state of want of information that the whole North blazed up in behalf of this Wilmot Proviso. It was in the apprehension that slavery might be introduced there that you left your constituents when yon came here; for at the time you left your respective residences, you did not know ihefact, which has reached us since the commencement of the session of Conaress — you did not know the fact that a constitution had been unani- mously adopted by the people of California, excluding slavery. Well, now, let me suppose that two jears ago it had been known in the free States that such a constitution would be ac'opted ; let me suppose that it had been believed that in no other part of the territory did slavery exist by law^ and that it could not be intro- duced except by a positive enactment ; suppo.^e that, in relation to this whole subject — the solicitude in relation to slavery — the people of the North bail supposed that there was no danger ; let me also suppose that they had foreseen the excitement, the danger,' the irritation, the resolutions which have been adopted by the southern legislatures, and the manifestations of the people of the slave States ; let me suppose all this had been known at the North at the time the agitation was beina excited upon the subject of this Wilmot Proviso, do you believe that it would ever have reathed the height to which it has since risen'' Do any of you believeit.'' And if, prior to your departure from your re- spective homes, you had had the opportunity of conversing with your constituents upon tliis great, controlling, and important fact of the adoption of a constitution excluding sla- very in California, do you believe, senators and representatives coming from the free State.s, that if you had had the aid of this fact in a calm, serious, fireside conversati'm, your constituents would not have told you to come here an J settle all these questions without danger to the Union ? What doyou want ' — what do you want ' — you who reside in the free States. Do you want that there shall be no slavery introduced into the territories acquired by the war with Mexico ' Have you not your desire in California ' And in all human probability you will have it in New Mexico also. What more do you want ' You have got what is worth more than a thousand Wilmot Provisos. You have nature on your side — facts upon your side — and this truth staring you in the face, that there is no slavery in those territories. If you are not infuriated, if you can elevate yourselves from the mud and mire of mere party contentions, lo the purer regions of patriotism^ what will you not do' Look at the tact as it exists. You will see that this fact was unknown to the great majority of the people; you will see that they acted upon one state of facts, while we have another and far different state of facts before us; and we will act as patriots — as responsible men, and as lovers of liberty, and lovers, above all, of this Union. We will act upon this altered state of facts which were unknown to our con- stituents, and appeal to their justice and magnanimity to concur with us in this action for peace, concord, and harmony. llr I think, entertaining these views, that there is nothing extravagant in the hope which I intlulged at the time these resolutions were proposed — nothing extravagant in the hope that the North might coiitent itself even with striking out these two declarations. They are unnecessary for any purpose which the free States have in view. At all events, If they should insist upon Congress expres.sing the opinions which are here asserted, they might even limit their wishes to the simple a-ssertion of that, without insisting on their being incorporated in any territorial government which might be devised for the territo ries in question. I pass from the second resolution to the third and fourth, which relate to the Texas question. But allow me to say, Mr President, that I approach the subject with a full knowledge of all its difficulties: and of all the questions connected with or growing out of tliis institution of slavery, which Congress is called upon to pass upon at this time, there are none so ditiieult and troublesoiiie as this which relates to Texas; because Tex- as, has the question of lx)undary to s«tle. The question of ^^laverJ•, or the feeling con- nected with the institution of slavery, runs into the question of the boundary of Texas. The North aic, perhaps, anxious to contract Texas within the narrowest possible limits, in order to exclude all beyond them, and to make it free territory. The South, on the contrary, are anxious to extend their limits to the source of the Rio Grande, for the pur- pose of obtaining an additional theatre for slavery; and it is this question of the limits of Texas, and the proper settlement of her boundaries, which embarrass all others. Vou will perceive that these difficulties of the boundary question meet us at every step we take, in which there is a third question also adding to the difficulty. By the resolution of an- nexation, all territory north of 36° 30' was interdicted from slavery. But of New Mexi- co, all that which lies north of 36° 30' embraces about one-third of the whole of New Mexico east of the Rio Grande; so that free and slave territoiy, slavery and non-slavery, are mixed "up together. All these difficulties are to be met. And allow me to say, that among the considerations which induced me to think that it was necessary to settle all these questions, was the state of things that now exists in New Mexico, and a state of things to be apprehended both here and in the territories. Why, sir, at this moment — and I think I shall have the concurrence of the two senators from that State, when I mention the fact — there is a feeling approximating to abhorence, on the part of the peo- ple of New Mexico, of any union with Texas Mr. RUSK. Only on the part of office-holders, office-seekers, and those they could infliHiice. Mr. CLAY. Well, that may be; and I am afraid that New Mexico is not the only place where office holders and office-seekers compose the majority of the population of the country. [Laughter.] They are a terribly large class, I assure you, sir. Now, if the questions are not settled which relate to Texas, her boundaries, etc., and which re- late to the territory not claimed by Texas and included in New Mexico, all these ques- tions being left open will but tend to agitation, confusion, disorder, and anarchy there, and agitation here There will be, 1 have no doubt, parties at the North crying out for the imposition of the V\ ilmot Proviso, or some other restriction upon the subject of sla- very. And in my opinion we absolutely do nothing, or next to nothing, if we do not provide against these difficulties, and the recurrence of these dangers. With respect to the state of things in New Mexico, allow me to call the attention of the Senate to what I consider as the highest authority I could offer, as to the .'tate of things there existing — I mean the act of their Convention, unless that Convention happened to be composed of office seekers and office holders, etc. I will call your attention to what they say of their situation, if my colleague will be so kind as to read for me. Mr. UNDERWOOD read as follows- " We, the people of New Mexico, in Convention assembled, having elected a dele- gate to represent this Territory in the ( ongress of the United States, and to urge upon the supreme Government a redress of our grievances, and the protection due to us as citizens of our common country, under the < onstitution, instruct him as follows : That whereas for the last three years, we have suffered under the paralyzing effects of a gov- eriiment undefined and doubtful in its character, inefficient to protect the rights of the people, or to discharge the high and absolute duty of every Government, the enforcement and regular administration of its own laws, in consequence of which industry and enter- prise are paralyzed, and discontent and confusion prevail throughout the land : the want of proper protection against the various barbarous tribes of Indians that surround us on ■every side has prevented the extension of settlements upon our valuable public domain, and rendered utterly futile every attempt to explore or develope the great resources of the territory. Surrounded by the Utahs, Comanches, and Apaches, on the north, east, and south, by the Navijos on the west, with Jicarillas within our limits, and without any adequate piotection against their hostile inroads, our flocks and herds are driven off by thousands,- our fellow citizens — men, women, and children— are murdered or carried into captivity; many of our citizens, of all ages and sexes, are at this moment suffering all the horrors of barbarian bondage, and it is utterly out of our power to obtain their re- lease from a condition to which death would be preferable. The wealth of our terri- tory is being diminished. We have neither the means nor any adopted plan by govern- ment for the education of the rising generation. In fine, with a government temporary, doubtful, uncertain, and inefficient in character and in operation, surrounded and des- poiled by barbarous foes, ruin appears inevitably before Uf, unle.^s speedy and eflcctual protection be extended to us by the Congress of the United States." Mr. CLAY. Now, sir, there is a vivid and faithful exhibition of tlie actual condition of things there, and if we go beyond the Rio Grande, to that part not claimed by Texas, we, I apprehend, shall find no better t^tate of things. In fact, I cannot for a moment reconcile it to my sense of duty to suffer Con.ress to adjourn without an effort at least being made to extend the benefits and blessing.'^ (?f government to those people who have recently been acquired by us. V\ ith regard to that portion of New Mexico which lies east of the Rio Grande, undoubtedly if it v*'ere conceded to Texas, there vi-ould be two incongruous, if not hostile populations thrown together, endangering public peace and tranquility. And all beyond, including New Mexico, De.~eret, and north of ( 'alifor- nia, beyond the Rio Grande, would be still open to all the consequences of disorder, con- fusion, and anarchy, without .some stable government emanating from the authority of that nation of which they form now a part, and with which they are but little acquainted. I think, therefore, that all these questions, difficult and troublesome as they may be, ought to be met iti a spirit of candor and calmness, and decided upon as a matter of duty. Now, sir, the resolutions which I have immediately under consideration propose a deci- sion of these questions. I have said that there is scarcely a resolution in the scries I have offered that did not contain some mutual concession, or evidence of mutual for bearance; that the concession was not altogether from the nonslaveholding States or the slaveholding States. These resolutions propose a boundary to 'i'exas. What is iti' V\'e know the diversity of opinion which exists in this country upon the suliject of that boun- dary. We know that a very large portion of the people of the United states have sup- posed that the western limit of Texas was the Nueces — that it did not extend to the Rio Grande. We know that the question of what is the western limit and the northern limit of Texas was an open question — has been all along an open question — was an open question when the boundary was run in virtue of the act of 1838 marking the boundary between the United States and Texas At that time, the boundary authori/.ed by that act of 18-38 was to begin at the mouth of the Sabine, run up to its head to the Red river, and thence westwardly, with that river, to the 100° of longitude. Well, that did not go as far as Texas now claims, and why! Because it was an open question. War was waging between Texas and Mexico, and it was at that time impossible to say whatm'ght ultimately be established as the western and northern limits of Texas. But when we come to the question of what was done at the time of her annexation, the whole resolu- tion which relates to boundaries, from beginning to end, assumes an open, unascertained, and unfixed boundary to Texas on the west. What is the first part of the resolution? It is " that Congress doth consent that the territory properly included within and right- fully belonging to Texas may be erected into a new State " " Propeily included" — •'rightfully belonging." It specifies no boundaries — it could specify no boundary. It assumes the state of uncertainty which in point of fact we know existed. Now, sir, what does the resolution further provide? Why, "first, said State to lie formed, sub- jecf to the adjustment by this Government of all questions of boundary that may arise with other governments." These boundaries at the west and north, it was asserted, the Government of the United States retained to itself the power to settle wjth any fo- reign power. It is impossible for me to go into the whole question. I mean to express rather my opinion than to go into the whole extent of the argument. The western boundary of Texas being unsettled, and Congress letaining to itself the power to settle it, I ask — sup- pose that power had been exercised, and that no cession of territory to the United States had ensued, and that the negotiarious between the two countries had been limited to the settlement of the western and northern limits of Texas — could it not have been done by the United States and Mexico conjointly? Sufpose that a treaty of the limits of Texas^ had been concluded between Mexico and the United States, fixing the Nueces as the boundary, would not Texas have been bound by it? Or suppose it had been the Rio- 13 Grande, Colorado, or any other point, whatever limit had been fixed upon hy the joint act of the two powers, would it not have been obligatory upon Texas, by the express terms of the resolution by which it was annexed? Well, now, if Mexico and the United States conjointly by treaty might have fixed upon the western and northern limits of Texas, and if the United States have acquired all the territory on which the two powers acting together must have established the limits of 'J'cxas, have not the United States, in virtue of that cession to them, become solely and exclusively possessed of all the power which they jointly had prior to the cession? It seems to me that the conclusion and reasoning are perfectly irresistible. If Mexico and the United States could have fixed upon any western limits for Texas, and did not do it, and if the United States have acquired to theraiclves by the treaty any extent of the territory upon which the western limit was to be fixed antl must be fixed, it seems to me that no one can resist the logical conclusion that the United States now has the power to do what the United States and Mexico conjointly could have done. I admit that it is a delicate power — an extremely delicate power. I adniit that it ought to he exercised with a spirit of justice, generosity, and liberalit?,' towards this youngest member of the great American family. Possibly if the United States fixes it in a way contrary to the desire and rights of Texas, she might bring it before the Supreme Court of the United States, and have the question again decided. I say possibly, because I am not of that claiss of politicians who believe that every question is a proper question for the Supreme Court of tho United States. There are questions too large for any tribunal of that kind to decide — great po- litical, national, and territorial questions, which transcend their limits, and to which they are utterly incompetent. Whether this is one or not, I will not decide; but I will main- tain that the United States are now invested solely andexclusively with that power which was in both nations, to fix, ascertain, and settle the western and northern limits of Texas. Sir, the other day my honorable friend who represents so well the State of Texas, (Mr. RcsK, ) said that we had no mi)re right to touch the limits of Texas than we have to touch the limits of Kentucky; that the ^tate is one and indivisible, and that the Federal Government has no right to separate it. I agree with him that, when the limits are cer- tain and ascertained, they are undisputed and indisputable. The General Government has no right or power to interfere with the limits of a State whose boundaries are fixed, known, ascertained, and recognized — no power at least to interfere with it voluntarily. An extreme case may be put — one which I trust in God never will happen to this Union — of a conquered nation and of a constitution adapting itself to the state of subjugation and conquest to which it has been reduced, and the giving up of whole States, as well as parts of the State, in order te save what remains from the conquering arm of the succes- ful invader. I say such a power may possibly exist for a case of extremity such as this; and I admit that short of such an extremity, voluntarily, the General Government has no right to separate a State, or to take any portion of its territory from it, or to regard it other- wise than an itepec — one and indivisible But then I assme — what does not exist in the State of Texas — that this boundary was known, ascertained, and indisputable On the contrary, it was open — it was unfixed, and rema ns unfixed to this moment, with respect to her western limits and north of the head of the Nueces. Why, sir, we gave fiiteen millions of dollars for these territories that we bought — and God knows what a costly bargain to this country that waa! We gave fifteen millions of dollars for the terr tories ceded by .Mexico to us, and can Texas, justly, fairly, and honorably claim all she has asserted a right to, without paying any portion of that fifteen millions of dollars? She talks, indeed, about the United States being her agent — her trustee. Why, sir, she was no more her agent or tru.stee than 8he ■ was the agent or trustee of any other part of the United States. Texas involved the United States in a war with Mexico; I make no reproaches — none, none. Texas brought them into the war; hut when they got into it, it was not a war of Texas and Mexico — it was a war of the whole thirty ?tates with Mexico — a war in which the Government of the United States comlucted the hostilities, and was as much the trus- tee and agent of the twenty-nine other States composing this Union as she was the trus- tee and agent of Texas. With respect to all circumstances on which Texas relies to make out a title to New Mexico, such as the map annexed to the recent treaty with Mexico, and the opinions of individuals, highly respectable and eminently elevated indi- viduals, as was the lamented Mr. Polk, late President of the United States, I must say it was his individual opinion, that he had no right, as President of the United States, or in any other character, otherwise than as negotiating with Mexico — and then the Senate had to act in concurrence with him — to fix a boundary. In respect to that map, which 14 is attacheJ to the treaty, it is sufficient to say that the treaty itself is silent, from l)egir>ning to end, npoii the limita of Texas; and the annexing of the map to the treaty no morecoji- firms the truth of anything delineated upon that map in relation to Texas than it does in relaiioH to any other geographical subject which composes the map. Mr. President, I have said that I thought the power has been concentrated in the United States to fix upon the limits of Texas. I have said that this power ought to be exerci.sed in a spirit of great liberuhty and justice, and I put it to you, to say. upon this second resolution of mine, whether thit liberality and justice have not been displayed in the re- solution. ^^ hit is proposed^ To confine her to the Neuces' IV o, sir. To extend it from the Sabine to the mouth of the Rio Grande — and thence up the Rio Grande to the 8oul3»cni limits of New Mexico, and thent^e, with that limit, to the boundary between the United i^tates and Spain, a-s marked out under the treaty of 1819. Why, sir, here is a vast country. I have made no estimate about it, but I believe it is equal in amount of acres — of square miles — to what Texas oast of the Nueces and extending to the ^'abine had befo;e. But who is there that can say, with truth and justice, tliat there is no reci- procity, no Concession, in these resolutions made to Texas, even with reference to the question of boundafy hne> They give her a va.st country, equal in amount nearly, I re- peat, to what she indisputably possessed before — a Ct)uiilry sufficiently large, with her consent hen after, to carve out of it some two or three additional State-s, when the condi- tion and number of the population may render it expedient to make new States. Well, sir, is not that concessic>n liberalitj* and justice' But, sir, that is not all we propo.se to give. The second resolution proposes to pay a certain amount of the debt of Texas. A blank is left because I have not hitherto been able to ascertain the amount. Mr. FOG IE. Wd! the honorable Senator alK>w me to make a motion that we now go into executive session, in order to enable him to finish his remarks to morrow? Mr CLAY. I do not think it will be possible for me to conclude to-day, although I wished to go through as much as possible. Mr. FOOTE. I will make the motion at anj time that the Senator may feel disposed to give way. Mr. CLAY. If the Senate will allow me, I will merely conclude what I have to say in relation to Texas, and then 1 will give way if the Senator desires. "Mr. President, I wa>- about to remark, independent of the most liberal and generous boundary tendered to Texas, we propo-e to ofler by this second resolution a sum which the worthy Senator from Texas, in my eye, thinks will not be less than about three mil- lions of dollars — the exact amount neither he nor I yet posse.'ises the requisite materials to ascertain. Well, you get this large boundary and three millions of your debt paid. I shall not repeat the argument I ofTeied upon a former occasion, as to the obligation of the United States to pay that debt ; but I was struck upon reading the treaty of limits, first, between the United States and Mexico, then the treaty of limits between the United States and Texas, to find in the preamble^ of both these treaties a direct recognition of the principles out of which, I think, spring our obligations to pay the debt for which the duties of foreign imports were pledged while Texas was an independent State. The principle asserted in the treaties of limits with Mexico is, that whereas, by the treaty of 18 lb between Spain and the United States, a limit was fixed between Mexico and the United States, .Mexico composing then a portion of the possessions of the Span- ish crown, although ^Mexico was, at the date of the treaty with her, severed from the crown of Spain, yet she was bound, as having been a part of the crown of Spain when the treaty of 1819 was made — she was bound by that treaty as much as if it was made with herself instead of Spain. In other words, that preamble asserts that the severance of any part of a common empire cannot exonerate either portion of that empire from the obligations which are created, when the empiie is entire and unsevered. So ihe same principle is asserted in the treaty of 1nnied and conclnded his speech, as follows: Mr. President, if there be in this vast assemblage of beauty, grace, eleganae, and intelhgence any who have come here under the expectation that the humble indivit ual who now addresses you means to attempt any display, or to use any ambitious language, any extraordinary ornaments or decorations of speech, they will be utterly disappointed. The season of the year, and my own season of life, both admonish me to abstain from the use of any unnecessary ornaments; but, above all, Mr. President, the grave and mo- mentous subject upon which it is my duty to address the Senate and the country forbids my saying anything but what appertains strictly to that subject ; and my sole desire is to make myself, with seriousness, soberness, and plainness, understood by you, and by those who think proper to listen to me. When, yesterday, the adjournment of the Senate took place, at that stage of the dis- cussion of the resolutions which I have submitted, which related to Texas and her boun- daries, I thought I had concluded the whole subjt ct; but I was reminded by a friend that perhaps I was not sufficiently explicit upon a single point, and that is, the relation of Texas to the Government of the United States, in regard to t!iat portion of the debts of Texas lor which I think a responsibility exists upon the part of the Government of the United States. It was said that it mii;ht perhaps be understood that in the proposed grant of three millions — or whatever may be the sum when it may be ascertained — to Texas, in consideration of her surrender of her title to New Mexico, on this side of the Rio Grande, in that grant we merely discharge the obligations which exist upon the part of the Government of the United States, in consequence of the appropriation of the im- ports receivable in the ports of T( xas while she was an independent power. But that is not my understaniling, Mr President, of the subject, as between Texas and the United States. The obligation on the part of Texas to pay the portion of the debt referred to, is complete and uncancelled; and there is, as between these two parties, no obligation on the part of the United States to discharge one dollar of the public debt of 'I'exas. On the contrary, by an express declaration in the resolution of admission, it is declared and provided that in no event are the United States to be liable to or charged with any por- tion of the debt or liabilities of Texas. It is not, therefore, from any responsibility which exists to the State of Texas on the part of the Government of the United States, that I think provision ought to be made for that debt No such thing. As between these two parlies, the responsibility upon the part of Texas is complete to pay tlie debt. 16 and there is uo responsibility upon the part of the United States to pay one cent of it. But then there is a third party, no party to tlie annexation whatever — that is to say, the creditor of Texas, who advanced his money upon the credit and faith of a solemn pledge made by Texas to him to reimburse the loan, and by the appropriation of duties receivable upon foreign imports. The last is the party to whom we are bound, according to the view I presented upon the subject IN'or, sir, can the other creditors of Texas complain that a provision is made for a particular portion of the debt, leaving the residue unprovided for by the Government of the United States; because insofar as we may ex- tinguish any portion of the debt of Texas, under which she is now bound, insofar we shall contribute to the benefit of the residue of the creditors of Texas by leaving the funds of the public lands held by Texas, and what other sources she may have applica- ble to the payment of tliose other debts, with more effect than if the entire debt, including the pledged portion of it, as well as the unpledged, was obligatory upon her, and she stood bound by it. Nor can those creditors complain for another reason. Texas has all the resource.-* which she had when an independent power; with the exception of the duties receivable in her ports upon foreign imports; and she is exempted from certain charges, expendi- ture?, and responsibilities, which she would have had to encounter if she had remained a separate and independent power. For example, she would have had to providu for a certain amount of naval force, in order to protect* herself against Mexico or against any foreign enemy whatever; but, by her annexation to the United States, she becomes libe- rated from all those charges, and of course those entire revcn ues may be applied to the pay- ment of her debts, except those only which are applicable to the support of the Govern- ment of Texas. But, if the United States should discharge that portion of the debt of Texas for which the duties on foreign imports were pledged, Texas would become the debtor of the United States to the extent of the extinguished debt With this explana- tion of that part of the subject, I pass to the next resolution in the series which I had the honor to submit. It relates, if I am not mistaken, to this District .- 5th. Resolved, That it is inexpedient to aboli.sh slavery in the District of Columbia, whilst that institution continues to exist in the State of Maryland, without the consent of that State, without tlie consent of the people of the District, and without just com- pensation to the owners of slaves within the District. Mr. President, an objection was made to this resolution by some honorable Senators upon the other side of this body, that it did not contain an assertion of the unconstitu- tionality of the exercise of the power of abolition upon the part of Congress, with regard to this District, I said then, as I have uniformly maintained in this body, as I contend- ed in 1838, and ever have done, that the power to abolish slavery in the District of Co- lumbia has been vested in Congress by language too clear and explicit to admit, in my judgment, of any rational question whatever. What is the language of the Constitution? Congress shall have power — "To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over such district, not ex- ceeding ten miles square, as may, by cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Uongress, become the seat of Government of the United States." (Congress, by this grant of power, is invested with all legislation whatsoever over the District Not only is it here invested, but it is exclusively invested with all legislation whatsoever over the District. Now, can we conceive of any language more particular and comprehensive than that which invests a legislative body with exclusive power in all cases whatsoever of legislation over a given district of territory or country? Let me ask, is there any power to abolish slavery in this District ? Let me suppose, in addition to what I suggested the other day; that slavery had been abolished in Maryland and V'irginia; let me add to that supposition that it was abolished in all the States in the Union; is there power, then, to abolish slavei7 within the District of < olumbia — or is slavery planted here to all eternity, without the possibility of the exercise of any legislative power for its abolition? Itcannot le invested in Maryland, because the power with which Coneress is invested is exclusive. Maryland, therefore, is excluded, as all the other Stales of the Union are excluded. It is here, or it is nowhere. This was the view which I took in 1838; and I think there is nothing in the resolution which I offered upon that occasion incompatible with the view which I now present, and which this resolution contains. While I admitted the power to exist in Congress, and exclusively in Congres.s, to legis- late in all cases whatsoever — and consequently in the case of the abolition of slavery with- in this District, if it deemed it proper to do so — I admitted upon that occasion, as I con- tend now, that it was a power which Congress cannot, in conscience and good faith, ex- ercise while the institution of slavery continues within the State of Maryland. The ques- 17 tion is a good deal altered now from what it was twelve years as^o, when the resolution to which I allude was adopted by the Senate. Upon that occasion, Virginia and Mary- land were both concerned in the exercise of the power: but in the retrocession of the por- tion of the District which lies south of the Potomac, A^irginia has become no more inte- rested in the question of the abolition of slavery in the rest of the District than any other slaveholding State in the Union is interested in its abolition. The question now is con- fined to Maryland. I said upon that occasion, that although the power was complete and perfect, to abolish slavery, yet that it was a thing which never could have entered into the conception of Maryland or Virginia that slavery would be abolished here while sla- very continued to exist in either of those two ceding States. I said, moreover, what the granting of the power itself indicates, that, although exclusive legislation in all cases over the District was invested by Congress within the ten miles square, it was to make it the seat of Government of the United States. That was the great, paramount, substantial object of the grant- And, in exercising all the powers with which we are invested, com- plete and full as they may be, yet the great purpose of the concession having been to create a suitable seat of Government, that ought to be the leading and controlling idea with Congress in the exercise of this power. And inasmuch as it is not necessary, in order to render it a proper and suitable seat of Government of the United States, that sla- very should be abolished within the limits of the ten mile square, and inasmuch as, at the time of the cession, in a spirit of generosity, immediately after the formation of this Con- stitution, when all was peace, and harmony, and concord— when brotherly affection, fra- ternal feeling, prevailed throughout this whole Union — when Maryland and Virginia, in a moment of generous impulse, and with feelings of high regard towards the principles of this Union, chose to make this grant — neither party could have suspected that at some distant and future period, after the agitition of this unfortunate subject, their generous grant, without equivalent, was to be turned against them, and the sword was to be lift- ed, as It were within their own bosom, to strike at their own hearts. This implied faith, this honorable obligation, this honesty and propriety of keeping in constant view the object of the cession— these were the considerations which, in 1838, urged me, as they now influence me, in the preparation of the resolution which I have submitted for your consideration. Now, as then, I do think that Congress, as an honorable body, acting in good faith, according to the nature and purpose, and objects of the cession at the time it was made, and looking at the condition of the ceding States at this time — Congress cannot, without forfeiture of all those obligations of honor which men of honor, and nations of honor, will respect as much as if they were found literally, in so many words, in the bond itself, interfere with the institution of slavery in this District, without a violation of those obligations, not, in my opinion, less sacred or less binding than if they had been inserted in the constitutional instrument itself Well, what does the resolution propose? The resolution neither affirms nor disaffirms the constitutionality of the exercise of the power of abolition in the District. It is silent upon the subject. It says that it is inexpedient to do it, but upon certain conditions. And what are those conditions? Why, first, that the State of Maryland shall give its consent ; in other words, that the State of Maryland shall release the United States from the obligation of that implied faith which, I contend, is connected with the act of cession by Maryland to the United States. Well, if Maryland, the only State now that ceded any portion of the territory which remains to us, will consent— in other words, if she re- leases Congress from the obligation growing out of the cession with regard to slavery — I consider that that would remove one of the obstacles to the exercise of the power, if it were deemed expedient to exercise it ; but it is only removing one of them. There are two other c>nditions which are inserted in this resolution; the first is the consent of the people of the District. Mr. President, the condition of the people of this District is anomalous — a condition in violation of the great principle which lies at the bottom of our own free institutions, and of all free institutions, because it is the case of a people who are acted upon by le- lislative authority, and taxed by legislative authority, without having any voice in the administration of affairs. The government of the United States, in respect to the people of this District, is a tyranny, an absolute government — not exercised hitherto I admit, and I hope it will never be so exercised — tyrannically or arbitrarily. But it is in the na- ture of all arbitrary power; for if I were to give a definition of arbitrary authority, I would say it is that power which is exercised by an authority over a people who have no voice nor influence in the enactment of laws, or the imposition of taxes; and that is the precise condition of the people to whom I have referred. Well, that being their condition, and this question of the abolition of slavery affecting them in all the relations of life which we can imagine — of property, society, comfort, 18 peace — I think we should require, as another of the conditions upon which alone this power should be exercised, the consent of the people of the District of Columbia And I have not stopped there This resolution requires still a third condition; and that is, that slavery shall not be abolished within the District of Cohimbia, although Maryland consents, and although the people of the District itself consent, without the third condi- tion — that of making compensation to the owners of slaves within the District And, sir, it is imuiaterial to me upon what basis this obligation to compensate the slaveholders in the District for such slaves as may be liberated under the autJiority of Congress, is placed. There is a clause — an amendment of the Constitiidon of Ihe United States which provides tha tno prcpcity — no private piopeily — shall be taken for public use, willioii iju3 icciiipcnsulion to the owners of such property. Well, I think that in a just and liberal inierpretatii>n of that clause, we are restrained from taking the property of the people of the District of Columbia in slaves, in consideration of any public policy, with- out full and complete compensation. But if there be no constitutional restriction such as is contained in the amendment I have referred to, upon principles of eternal justice it is wrong to deprive those who have property in slaves in this Distrtct of that property with out compensation. No one of the European powers — Great Britain, France, nor any other of the powers which have undertaken to abolish slavery in their colonics — have ever ventured to do it without making compensation to the owners. They were under no such constitutional obligation as I have referred to; but they were under that obligation to which all men ought to bow — that obligation of eternal justice, which declares that no man ought to be deprived of his property without full and just compensation for its value. Whether un- der the constitutional provision or not, the case is the same. I know, sir, that it has been argui d that this clause of the Constitution which requires compensation to be made for property, when taken by the Government for the public use, would not apply to the case of the abolition of slavery, because the property is not taken by the Government f^ir the public use. Perhaps literally it would not be taken for the use of the public, but it would be taken in consideration of a policy and a purpose adopted by the Government for the good of the public, or cue which it was deemed expedient to carry into full effect and o[)eration. By a liberal interpretation of the clause, it seems to me, however, that slave property would be so far regarded — that it "iighl to be so far regarded — as taken for the use of the public, or at the instance of the public, as to entitle the ownersof the slaves so taken to a compensa- tion, under and by virtue of the clause itself, to the full extent of the value of the slaves liberated. It appears to me that this is an effectual and constitutional restriction upon Ihe power of Congress over the subject of slavery within this District. If this be not so, then the power is unrestiicted — I mean unrestricted by any constitutional injunction or inhibition. But the restriction imposed by the obligation of justice remains; and I contend that that would be sufficient to render it oppressive and tyrannical to use the power, without at the same time making the compensation. I put it to gentlemen whe- ther that would not be a better condition for the slaveholders of the District than to as- sume (he rigid application of the amendment of the Constitution to which I have re- ferred !* It would always be an equitable, and, I doubt not, a sufficient cause for exact- ing from Congress a full and just compensation for the value of the property taken. Mr. President, I said on yesterday that there was no one of these resolutions, except the fh-st, which contained any concession by either party, that did not either contain some mutual concession by the two parties, or did n,)t contain concessions al'ogether from the North to the fouth. Now, with respect to the resolution under consideration; the North has contended that the power exists under the Constitution to abolish slavery here. I am aware that the South, or a greater portion of the South, have contended for the opposite doctrine. What does this resolution ask^ It asks of both parties to for- bear urging their respective opinions — the one to the exclusion of the other. But it con- cedes to the South all that the South, it appears to me, ought in reason to demand, inas- much as it requires such conditions as amount to an absolute security for the property in slaves within the District — such conditions as will make the existence of slavery in the District coeval and coextensive with its existence in any of the States out of or beyond the District. The second clause of this resolution provides that it is expedient to prohibit within the District the slave trade in slaves brought into it. Mr. President, if it be conceded that Congress has the power of legislation — exclusive legislation — in all cases whatsoever, how can it be doubted that Congress has the power to piohiliit what is called the slave trade within the District of Columbia? My interpre- tation of the Constitution is this: that with regard to all those portions of jurisdiction which operate upon the States, Congress can exercise no power which is not granted, or 19 not a necessary implication from a granted power. Such is the rule for the action of Congress in relation to its legislation upon the States. But in relation to its legislation upon this District, the reverse, I take it, is the true rule — that Congress has all power which is not prohibited by some provision of the Constitution of tu« United States. In other words, Congress has a power within the district equivalent to and coextensive with the power which any State itself possesses within its own limits. Well, can any one doubt the power and right of any State in this Union — of any slaveholding State— to forbid the introduction as merchandise of slaves within its own limits^ Why almost every slaveholding State in the Union has exercised its power to prohibit the introduc- tion of slaves as merchandise. It is in the constitution of my own State ; and after all the asitation and e.xcitement upon the subject of slavery which has existed in the State of Kentucky during the last year, the same principle is incorporated in the new consti- tution. It is jn the constitution, I know, of Mississippi also. That Stat« prohibits the introduction of slaves within its Umits as merchandise. I believe it to be in the consti- tution or law.s of Maryland and Virginia, and in the laws of most of the slaveholding States. It is true, that the policy of the several slaveholding States has vacillated from time to time upon this subject — sometimes tolerating and sometimes excluding the trade ; but there has never been the slightest diversity of opinion as to the right— no depaVture from the great principle that every one of them has the power and authority to prohibit the introdu* tion of slavery within their respective limits, if they choose to exercise it. Well, then, I really do not think that this resolution, w^iich jiroposes to abolish that trade, ought to be considered as a concession by either class of States to the other class. I think it should be regardwl as an o'jcrt acceptuble to both, conformable to the wishes and feehngs of both; and yet, sir, in these times of fearful and alarming excitement — in these times when every night that I go to sleep, and »very morning when I awake, it is with the ap()rehension of some new and terrible tidings upon this agitating subject — I have seen, sir, that in one of the neighboring States, amongst the various contingencies which are enumerated, upon the happening of any one of which, delegates are to be sent to a famous Convention, to assemble in Nashville in June next — amongst the substan- tive causes for which delegates are to be sent to the Convention to which I refer, one is, if Congress abolishes the slave trade within the District of Columbia. That is to be the cause for assembling in convention — in other words, cause for considering whether this Union ought to be dissolved or not. Is it possible to contemplate a greater extent of wildness and extravagance to which men can be carried by the indulgence of their passions? Why, sir, there has been no time in my public life— in which statement I concur with what was said the other day by the honorable Senator from Alabama (Mr. King)— there has been no time of my public life that I was not willing, for one, to co-operate in any steps for t: e abolition of the slave trade in the District of Columbia. I was willing to do so while the other portion of the District south of the Potomac remained attached; and there is still less ground for objection now that a large portion of the District has been retroceeded to Virginia, and when the motive or reason for concentrating slaves here in a depot for the purpose of transporting them to distant foreign markets is lessened to the extent of the diminution of the territory by the act of retrocession. Why should the slave tradeiB who buy their slaves in Maryland or Virginia come here with them, in order to transport them to New Orleans or other southern markets' Why not transport them from the States in which they are purchased' Why should the feelings of those who are outraged by the scenes that are exhibited, by the corteges which pass along our avenues of manacled human beings— not collected in our own District, nor in our own neighborhood, but brought from distant portions of the neighboring States--why should the feelings of those who are outraged by such scenes — who are unable to contemplate such a spectacle without horror — why should they be thus outraged by the continuance of a trade so exceptienable, so 'repugnant, as this' Sir, it is a concession, I repeat, neither from one class of the States nor the other It is an object upon which both of them, it seems to me, should readily unite, and which one set of States as well as the other should rejoice to adopt, inasmuch as it lessens by one the causes of irritation and discontent which exist as connected with this subject. Abolish the slave trade within the District of Columbia, reassert the doctrine of the resolution of 18 J8, that by an implied obligation, on the part of Congress, slavery ought not to be abolished within the District of Columbia, so long as it remains in the State of Maryland — reassert the principle of that resolution, and adopt the other measures pro- posed in these resolutions, or some other similar measures — for I am not attached to any- thing as the production of my ©wn mind, and am quite willing to adopt instead the bet- ter suggestions of anybody else — adopt these or similar measures, and I venture to predict so that, instead of the distractions and anxieties which now prevail, we shall have peace and quiet for thirty years hereafter, such as followed the disposition of the same exciting and unhappy subject after the Missouri compromise. The next resolution is as follows : 7th. Riolvf^d, That more effectual provision ought to he made by law, according to the requirement of the Constitution, for the restitution and delivery of persr)ns bound to service or labor in any State who may escape into any other State or Territory of this Union. Well, Mr. President, upon this subject I go with him who goes farthest in the inter- pretation of that clause in the Constitution which relates to this subject. In my humble opinion, that is a requirement by the Constitution of the United States which is not limit- ed in its operation to the Congress of the I'niled States, but which extends to every State in the Union, and to the officers of every State in the Union. And I go one step farther. It extends to every man. in the Union, and devolves upon him the obligation to assist in the recovery of a fugitive slave from labor, who takes refuge in or escapes into one of the free States. And I maintain all this by a fair interpretatian of the Constitu- tion. The clau.se is as follows ; "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in con.^equcnce of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom .such ser- vice or labor may be due." It will be observed, Mr. President, that this clause in the Constitution is not amongst the enumerated powers granted to Congress — where, if it had been placed, it might have been argued that Congress alone can legislate and carry it into eRect — but it is one of the general powers, or one of the general rights secured by this <'onstitution or instrument, and it addresses itself to all who are bound by the Constitution of the United states. Now, the officers of the General Government are bound to take an oath to support the Constitution of the United States. All State officers are required by the Constitution to take an oath to support it, and all men who love their countrj', and are obedient to its laws, are bound to assist in the execution of those laws, whether fundamental or deriva- tive. I do not say that a private individual is obliged to make the tour of his whole State, in order to assist the owner of a slave to recover his property; but I do say, if he is present when the owner of a slave is about to assert his rights and regain possession of his property, that he, that every man present, whether officer or agent of the State Governments, or private individual, is bound to assi.een otherwise, it would have been extra judicial. The court had no right to decide whether the laws of facility were or were not unconsti- tutional. The only question before the court was upon the laws of impediment passed by the Legislature of Pennsylvania. If they have gone beyond the case before them to decide upon a case not before them, the decision is what lawyers call "obiter dictum,'" and IS not binding upon that court itself, or upon any other tribunal. I say it is utterly impossible for that court with the case before them of the passage of a law by a State Le- gislature, affording aid and assistance to the owner of the slave to get back his property again; it is utterly impossible that that or any other tribunal should pronounce the decis- ion that such aid and assistance rendered by the authorities of the State under this pro- vision of the Constitution of the United States was unconstitutional and void. The court has not said so; and even if they had said so, they would have transcended their autho- rity, and gone beyond the case which was before them. The laws passed by States in order to assist the General Government, so far from being laws repu^'nant to the Constitution, are rather to be regarded as laws carrying out, en- forcing, and fijfdling the constitutional duties which are created by that instrument. Why, sir, as well might it be contended that if Congress were to declare war— and no one will doubt that the power to declare war is vested exclusively in Congress, and that no State has a right to do it- no one will contend that after the declaration of war, it would be unconstitutional on the part of any State to lend its aid and assistance for the vigorous and effectual prosecution of that war. And yet it would be just as unconstitutional to lend their aid to a successful and glorious termination of that war in which we might be engaged, as it would be unconstitutional for them to assist in the performance of a high duty, which presents itself to all the States and to all the people in all the States. Then, Mr. President, I think that the whole class of legislation, beginning in the northern States, and extending to some of the western States, by which obstructions and impedi- ments have been thrown in the way of recovery of fugitive slaves, are unconstitutional, and have originated in a spirit which I trust will correct itself when these States come to consider calmly upon the nature of their duty. Of all the States in this Union, unless it be the State of Virginia, the State of which I am a citizen suffers most by the escape of slaves to adjoining States. I have but little doubt that the loss of Kentucky, in conse- quence of the escape of her slaves, is greater, in proportion to the total number of slaves which are held in that Commonwealth than it is in the State of Virginia; and I know too well, and so do the honorable Senators from Ohio know, that it is at the utmost hazard and insecurity of life itself that a Kentuckian can cross the river and go into the interior and take back the fugitive slave to the ^tate from which he has fled. A recent example occurred in the city of Cincinnati. One of our most respectable citizens having visited — not Ohio at all— ^ but having visited Covington, on the opposite side of the river, a little slave ol his escaped over to L incinnati He pursued it, recovered it— having found it in a house where he was concealed— took it out; but it was rescued by the violence and force of a negro mob from his possession--the police of the city standing by, and either un- willing or unable to afford assistance to him.* Upon this subject, I do think we have just and serious cause of complaint against the free States. I think that they f.iiled in fulfilling a great obligation; and the failure is pre- cisely upon one of those subjects which, in its nature, is most irritating and inflammatory to those who live in shve States. Why, sir, I think it is a mark of no good brotherhood, of no kindness, of no courtesy, that a man from a slave State cannot now in any degree of safety travel in a free State with his servant, although he has no purpose of stopping there any longer than a short time. Upon this subject the Legislatures of the free States have altered for the worse m the course of the last twenty or thirty years. Most of those States, until during the period of the last twenty or thirty years, had laws for the benefit of "sojourners," as they were called, passing through, or abiding for a time in, the free Suues with their servants. I recollect, sir, a case, that occurred during the war, of my friend, Mr. Cheves, from South Carolina Instead of going home during the vacation, he went to Philadelphia, taking his family and his family servant with him. Some of the abolitionists of that day sued oi^t a writ of habeas corpus for the slave, and the ques- tion was brought before the Supreme Court of the State of Pennsylvania. It was argued for days; and it was necessary, during the progress of the argument, to refer to a great variety of statutes passed from lime to time by the State of Pennsylvania in behalf of 22 sojourners, guarantying and securing to them the possession of their property during their temporary passage or abode in the Commonwealth. Finally, the court gave their opin- ion seriafi'ii, each judge delivering his separate opinion, until it cnme to Judge Breck- enridge, who was the youngest judge upon the bench, to deliver his. During the de- livery of tlicir opinions they had frequent occasion to refer to those acts passed for the benefit of sojourners; and each of the judges who preceded Judge Brcckenridge always pronounced the word "sudjourner." When it came to Judge Brcckenridge to deliver his opinion, he said: " I agree in all my leained brethren have prcBOunced upon this oc- casion, except their pronunciation of the word ' sojourner.' They pronounced it 'sud- journer;' and I think it should be pronounced 'sojourner.'" (Laughter.) NoiV, sir, all these laws in behalf of sojourners in the free States are swept away, I believe, in all the States except Rhode Island. Mr. DAYTON. And in New Jersey. Mr. CLAY. And in New Jersey, I am happy to hear. But in most of the free States these laws have been abolished, showing a progressive tendency to a bad neigh- borhood, and fti.kind action upon ihe part of the free States, towards the s!aveholding States. Well, sir, I do wot mean to contest the ground ; I am not going to argue the question whether if a man voluntarily carries his slave into a free State, he is or is not entitled to his freedom. I am not going to argue that question. I kimw what its deci- sion has been in the North. What I mean to say is, that it is unkind, unneighborly, it is not in the spirit of that fraternal connexion existing between all parts of this confedera- cy. But, as to the exact and legal [irinclple in the Way suggested, even supposing the right is here, it is but proper, when there is no purpose of a permanent abode — of settling finally and conclusively — of planting his slaves in the Commonwealth — it is but the right of good neighborhood, and kind and friendly feeling, to allow the owner of the slave to pass with his property unmolested. _^AIIow me to say, upon thissubject, that, of all the instances in which the power is ex- ercised to seduce slaves from their owners, there is no instance in which it is exercised so unjustly as in the case of the seduction of family servants from the service of their owners. Servants in the families are treated with all the kindness with which the cliild- ren of the fa nily are treated. Everything they want for their comfort is given to them with the most liberal indulgence. I have known more instances than one, where, by this practice of seduction of family servants from their owners into free States, they have been renden^d wretched and unhappy. In an instance in my own family, the seduced slave addressed her mistress, begging and imploring her to furnish her the means of get- ting back from tht state of freedom into which she had been seduced, into the state of slavery in which she was much more happy. She returned to the State of Kentucky, and to her misiressfrom whom she had been seduced. Now, Mr. President,! think that the existing laws for the recovery of fugitive slavee, and the restoration and delivering of them to their owners, being often inj-dequate and ineffective, it is incumbent upon Congress — (and I hope that hereafter, when a better state of feeling, when more harmony and good will prevails among the various parts of this confederacy — I hope it will be regarded by the free States themselves as a part of their duty) — to assist in allaying this subject, so irritating and disturbing to the peace of this Union. At all events, whether they do it or not, it is our duty to do it. It is our duy to make the laws more effective ; and I will go with the farthest Senator from the South in this body to make penal laws, to impose the heaviest sanctions upon the recov- ery of fugitive slaves and the restoration of them to their owners. While upon this part of the subject, however, allow me to make one observation or , two. I do not think that States, as States, are to be held responsible for all the mis- conduct of particular individuals within those States. I think States are to be held responsible only when ihey act in their sovereign capacity. If there are a few persons indiscreet — mad, if you choose — fanatics, if you choose to call them so — who are tor dis- solving the Union — (and we know there are some at the North who are for dissolving it, in consequence of the connexion which exists between the free and slaveholding States) — I do not think that any State ought to be held responsible for the doctrines which they propagate, unless the State, itself adopts those doctrines. There have been, perhaps, mutual causes of complaint. I know — at least I have heard — that Massachusetts, in apology for some of her unfriendly laws upon the subject of the recovery of fugitive slaves, urges the treatment which a certain minister of hers received in Charleston, South Carolina, some years ago. A most respectable, venerable, and worthy man, (Mr. Hoar,) was sent by Massachusetts to South Carolina to take care of the free negroes of Massachusetts that might pass to Charleston in any of the vessels of Massachusetts. I think it was a mission hardly worthy for Massachusetts to 23 have created. I think she might as well have omitted to send Mr. Hoar upon any such mission as that. She thought it her right, however, and sent him upon that mission. He went for the purpose merely, as it was said, to ascertain the rights of the free people of color before the courts of justice — to test the validity of certam laws of South Caro- lina in regard to the prohibition of free negroes coming into her ports. I believe that was the object — that was the purpose of his mission. He went there.'anl created no disturbance, as I understand, except so far as a^rserting these rights and privileges in the sense that Massachusetts had uiiderstjod them — except so ftr as her people of color might create disturbance. Well he was virtually driven out of Charleston, as I believe some other emissary of the same character was driven out of New Orleans. I do not mean to say whether it was right or wrong to expel him from tha tcity ; but I do mean to say that Massachusetts, for the treatment tnwanls those whom she cliose to ccnside as citizens of the State of Massachusetts, on the part of South Carolina, determined upon that course of legislation by which she has withdrawn all aid and assistance, and interposed obstacles to the recovery of fugitive slaves. She gives this as her apology ; but I think that it furnished her with no sufficient apology. If Soutk Carolina treated her ill, it was no reason why she in turn should treat Virginia, Kentucky, and other States ill. But she thought so. I mention the case of the expulsion from Charleston, and the passage of the laws by Massachusetts — or rather the spirit in which they were passed — not by way of reproach, but to show Senators that there have been, unhappily, mutual causes of irritation, furnished, perhaps, by one class of the States as well as the other, though I admit not in the same degree by slave States as by free States. I admit, also, that the free States have much less cause fc»r any solicitude and inquietude upon this whole subject of slavery than the slave States have, and that far more extensive ex- cuses, if not justification, ought to be extended to the slave States than to the free States, on account of the difference in the condition of the respective parties. Mr. President, in passing from that resolution, I will add, that when the time comes for final action, I will vote most cordial'y and willingly for the most stringent meaures that can be devised to secure the execution of the constitutional provision it alludes to. Mr. DAVIS, of Massachusetts, (interposing.) I am unwilling to interrupt the honor- able Senator ; but if he will permit me, I will say one word in behalf of my State. Mr. CLAY. Certainly, sir ; certainly. Mr. DAVIS. I have never heard any apology which was offered by Massachusetts for passing the laws to which reference has been made. On the contrary, I have always understood that the laws that Massachusetts had passed for restoring fugitive slaves were repealed because the courts, as they understood them, had pronounced them to be un- constitutional. That is the ground they took. Whether they were wise in the legisla- tion which they adopted, I will not undertake to say. But I wish to add one word in regard to the mission, as it is termed by the honorable Senator from Kentucky, to South Carolina. If I call the facts to my recollection aright, they are these : We are the own- ers of much shipping ; we employ many sailors; among them we employ free people of color, who are acknowledged in Massachusetts to be citizens of the United States, citi- zens of the Commonwealth, entitled to the rights of citizens. These citizens were taken trom our vessels when they arrived in South Carolina, and held in custody until llie vessel sailed again. This our citizens complained of, whether justly or unjustly ; they felt that it was an infringement, in the first place, of the rights of the citiztns, and, in the next place, it was a great inconvenience to men engaged in this trade. H I remember oorrecily, and I think 1 do, the people of Massachusetts authorized their government to propose, at the expense of the State, some proper individual to go to the Slate of South Carolina, to contest the right of that State to hold these citizens in custody in this way, in the courts of the United States. If I remember, that was the complaint of our citi- zens ; and the mission to which the honorable Senator refers was then instituted, and the termination of it I believe he has correctly stated. And I wish it to be understood that Massachuset's had no aggressive purpose whatever, but simply desired the judicial tribu- nal to settle the question. They wanted nothing more — they asked nothing more. Mr. CLAY. I hear with great pleasure, Mr. President, this explanation ; but I have been informed by an eminent citizen of Massachusetts, whose name it is not necessary to mention — not a member of this body — that the motive for the repeal of those laws of restoration — or the passage of those laws of obstruction — that one of the motives was, the treatment of Mr. Hoar in Charleston. I am glad to hear that it proceeded from another cause — from what 1 conceive to be a misconcept o;i of the decision of the Su- preme Court of the United States. When the true exposition of the opinion comes to be known in Massachusetts, I trust that she will restore all those laws for the recovery of those fugitive slaves that she repealed from a misconception of that decision. Mr. President, I have a great deal more to say; but I shall pass from that resolution with the observation that I believe I partly made before, that the most stringent provi- 24 sions upon this subject that can be devised will meet with my hearty concurrence and co- operation in the passage of the bill under consideration. The last resolution declares — " That Congress has no power to prohibit or obstruct the trade in slaves between the slaveholding States ; but that the admission or exclusion of slaves brought from one into another of them depends exclusively upon their own particular laws." This is a concession — not, I admit, of any real constitutional provision, but a conces- sion — of what is understood,! believe, by a great number at the North to be a constitu- tional provision — from the North to the South, if the resolution be adopted. Take aw.iy the decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States on that subject, and I know there is a great deal that might be said on both sides of the subject in relation to the right of Congress to regulate the trade between the States. But I believe the decision of the Su- preme Court has been founded upon correct principles ; and I hope it will forever put an end to the question whether Congress has or has not the power to regulate the slave trade between the different States. Such, Mr. President, is the series of resolutions which, with an earnest and anxious desire to present the olive-branch' to both parts of this distracted, and, at this moment, unhappy country, I thought it my duty to offer. Of all men upon earth, am I the least attached to any jjroduction of my own mind. No man upon earth is more ready than I am to surrender anything which I have proposed, and to accept, in lieu of it, any- thing which is better. But I put it to the candor of honorable Senators upon the other side, and upon all sides of the chamber, whether their duty will be performed by simply limiting themselves to objections to any one or two of the series of resolutions which I have offered. If my plan of peace, and accommodation, and harmony, is not right, present us your plan. Let us see a conire projet. Let us see how all the questions that have arisen out of this unhappy subject of slavery can be better settled, more fairly and justly settled, to all quarters of the Union, than is proposed in the resolutions which I have offered. Present me such a scheme, and I hail it with pleasure, and will accept it without the slightest feeling of regret that my own is abandoned. • Sir, while I was engaged in anxious consideration upon this subject, the idea of the Missouri compromise, as it has been termed, came under my review, was considered by me, and finally rejected, as in my judgment less worthy of the common acceptance of both parties of this Union than the project which I offer to your consideration. Mr. President, before I enter into a particular examination, however, of that Missouri compromise, I beg to be allowed to correct a great error, not merely in the Senate, but throughout the whole country, in respect to my agency in regard to the Missouri com- promise, or rather the line of 36° 30', established by the agency of Congress. I do not know whether anything has excited more surprise in my mind as to the rapidity with which important historical transactions are obliterated and pass out of memory, than has the knowledge of the fact that I was everywhere considered the author of the line of 36° 30', which was established upon the occasion of the admission of Missouri into the Union. It would take up too much time to go over the whole of that important era in the public affairs of this country. I shall not attempt it ; although I have ample materials before me, derived from a carefiil and particular examination of the journals of both houses. I will not occupy your time by going into any detailed account of the whole transaction ; but I will content myself with stating tliat, so far from my having presented as a proposition the line of 36" 30', upon the occasion of considering whether Missouri ought to be admitted into the Union or not, it did not originate in the House of which I was a member. It originated in this body. Those who will cast their recollfction back — and I am sure the honorable Senator from Missouri, (Mr. Bento.n,) more correctly perhaps than anybody else — must bring to recollection the fact, that at the first Congress, when the proposition was made to admit Missouri — or rather to permit her to hold a conven- tion and to form a constitution, as preliminary to deciding whether she should be admit- ted into this Union — the bill failed by a disagreement between the two Houses ; the House of Representatives insisting upon, and the Senate dissenting from, the provision contained in the ordinance of 1787 ; the House insisting upon the interdiction of slavery, and the Senate rejecting the proposition for the interdiction of slavery. The bill failed. It did not pass that session of Congress. At the next session it was renewed ; and, at the time of its renewal, Maine was knocking at our donr, also, to be admitted into the Union, In the House there was a majority for a restriction of the admission of slavery ; in the Senate a majority was op- posed to any such restriction. In the Senate, therefore, in order to carry Missouri through, a bill or provision for her admission, or rather authorizing her to determine the question of her admission, was coupled with the bill for the admission of Maine. They 25 were connected together, and the Senate said to the House, you want the bill for the admission of Maine passed ; you shall not have it, unless you take along with it the bill for the admission of Missouri also. There was a majority — not a very large one, but a very firm and decided majority — in the Senate for coupling them together. Well, the bill went through all the usual stages of disagreement, and of com'nittees of con- ference ; for there were two committees of conference upon trie occasion before the matter was finally decided. It was finally settled to disconnect the two bills ; to admit Maine separately, without any conne.xion with Missouri, and to insert in the Missouri bill a clause — which was inserted in the Senate of the United States — a clause which was proposed by Mr. Thomas, of Illinois, in the Senate, restricting the admission of slavery north of 3(P 31)', and leaving the question open south of 30° 30', either to admit or not to admit slavery. The bill was finally passed. The committees of conference of the two houses recommended the detacliment of the two bills, and the passage of the Missouri bill, with the clause of 36^30' in it. So it passed. So it went to Missouri. So, for a moment, it quieted the country. But the clause of 30° 30', I repeat, you will find, sir, if you will take the trouble to look into the journals, was, upon three or four different occasions, offered. Mr. Thomas, acting in every instance, presented the proposition of 3(P 30' ; and it was finally agreed to. But I take the occasion to say, that among those who agreed to that fine were a majority ol southern members. My friend from Alabama, in the Senate, ';Mr. King,) Mr. Pinckney, from Maryland, and a majority of the Southern Senators, in this body, voted in favor of the line of 36° 30' ; and a majority of the Southern members in the other House, at the head of whom was Mr. Lawrence himself, voted also f(jr that line. I have no doubt that I did also ; but, as I was Speaker of the House, and as the journal does not show which way the Speaker votes, except in the cases of a lie, I am not able to tell, with certainty, how I accujlly did vote ; but I liave no earthly doubt that I voted, in common with my other Southern friends, for the adoption of the line of 3(P 30'. So the matter ended in 18:20. During that year Missouri held a convention, adopted a constitution, sent her constitution by her members to Congress, to be admitted into the Union ; but she had inadvertently inserted into that constitution a provision to pre- vent the migration of free people of color into that State. She came here with the con- stitution containing that provision ; and immediately Northern members 'ook exception to it. 'I'he fiame which had been repressed at the previous session now burst out with redoubled force and violence throughout the whole Union. Legislative bodies all got in motion to keep out Missouri from the Union, in consequence of her interdiction of the admission of free people of color within her limits. I did not arrive at Washington at that session until January ; and when I got here, I found both bodies completely paralyzed by the excitement which had been produced in the struggle to admit or to exclude Missouri from the Union, in consequence of that pro- hibition. Well, I made an effort, first, in the House of Repieseniatives, to settle it. I asked lor a committee of thirteen, and a committee of thirteen was granted to me, re- piesenting all the old States of the Union. That committee met. I presented to the committee a resolution, which was adopted by it and reported to thf House, not unlike the one to which I will presently call the attention of the Senate. We should have car- ried it through the House but for the votes of Mr. Randolph, of Virginia, Mr. Edwards, of Norih Carolina, and Mr. Burton, of North Carolina — two, I think, of the three no longer living. 7 hose three Southern votes were all cast against the compromise pro- posed to the committee of thirteen by myself, as ohairman of that committee, and they defeated it. In that manner things remained for several days. The greatest anxiety prevailed. The couniry was ursetiled ; men were unhappy. There was a large majority in the House then — as I hope and trust there is now a large majority in Congress — in favor of the equitable accoinmodatioii and settlement of the question. I could have any collate- ral question passed which I pleased, except that when it came to the vote, by ayes and notes, unfortunately — more unfortunately then than now, 1 hope, should there be occa- sion for it — there were but few Curtius's and Leonidas's, ready to rifk themselves for ihe safety and honor of the country. But I endeavored to avail myself, as much as I could of the good feeling ihat prevailed ; and after some days had elapsed, I hrought forward another proposition, and a new one, perfectly unpractised ujion in the country, before or since, so far as I know. I proposed a jomt committee of the two Houses; that of the House consisted of twenty-thiee members ; that ol the Senate of — [ do not recollect precisely how many, but of a proper number, to meet the committee of the House; and that this committee be appointed by ballot. At that time, Mr. Taylor, of New York, was in the chair ; and Mr. Taylor had been the very man who had first pro- posed the restriction upon Missouri that she should only be admitted under itie provisions 26 of the orJinnnce of 1787. I proposed, therefore, that the cominiitee should be choeen by ballot. Well, sir, my motion was carried by a large innjority, and members came if> me from all quarters of the House asking— who, Mr. Clay, do you want to serve with you upon that committee? I named my selection ; and I venture to say that there hap- pened upon that occasion what would hardly happen agnin ; eighteen of the twenty- three were elected upon the first ballot, and the remaining five, having the largest num- ber of votes, bat not a majority, *-ere appointed upon my list. I moved to dispense with further balloting, and to take those five gentlemen who had received the greatest number of votes, with the eighteen actually elected, to compose the committee df twenty three. One or two gentlemen — Mr. Livermore, of New Hampshire, and ene or two oih-r gentlemen — declined, and very much to my regret, and somewhat to my annoyance, the lamented Mr. Randolph and one other gentleman were placed in thtir situation. I for- get whether that was done by ballot or by the Speaker. The Senate immediately agreed to the proposition, and appointed its committee. We met. It was in this hall, upon the Sabbath day, within two or three days of the close ot the session, when the whole nation was listening with breathless anxiety for some final and healing measure upon that disJracting subject. We met here, and upon that day. 'I he moment we met, .\lr. Randolph made a suggestion which I knew would bft attended with the greatest embarrassment and difficulty. He contended that when the two committees of the two houses nift together, the chairman of the committee of the House, who was myself, had a right to preside. He was about insisting at some length upon that proposition, that the chairman of the committee of the House should preside over both comfiuilees when blended together — should be the prefidiiig officer ol both. 1 instantly I'pposed, however, ibis plan, and stated that I did not consider this the proper mode, but I thought that the chairman of the committee of each House should preside over his own committee, and when the committee of either bran /h had adopted a proposition, it should be submitted to the committee of the other brunch ; and if they also agreed to it, then it should be reported back to the two Housis with the recommen- dation of both committees. That mode was agreed upon, and Mr. Holmes, I think it was, from Miiine, presided over the committee of the Senile. I — if I could be said to preside tt all, when I took a more active part in the chair than I could have well taken out of it ; and when, as at this se-sion, I was thought to manifest a desire rather to take too much lead — presided over the committee of the House. 1 brought forward ihe pro- position which I will read presently, and I appealed to the members of the committee, if 1 may use the expression. Now, gen'lemen, said I, we do no not want a proposition carried here by a small majority, thereupon reported to the House and rejecled. I am for something practical, something conclusive, something decisive upon the question. How will yon vote Mr. A. ? How will y )U vote Mr. B. ? How will you vole Mr. G. ? I appealed in that way to the gentlemen of the North. To my very great happiness, a sufficient number of them responded affirmatively to my question whether they would vote for this proposition, to enable me to be confident that, if they co itinued to vote in that way — of which 1 had not a particle of doubt — in the House we should carry the proposition. Accordingly, that proposition having been agreed upon by both conimit- tees,'wu8 reported by us to our respective houses, where it was finally adopted, and here it is: (Mr. C. here commenced reading a resolution but discontinued, staling that it was not that to which he referred. A messenger went in search of the volume containing the reso- lution, and Mr. Clay proceeded ) That resolution, I said, was finally adopted. Probably I can state, without reading it, ■what its provisions are. It declares that if the'e be any provisions in the constitution ot Mis ouri incompatible with the Constitution of the United States, the State of Missouri eliall foib the interdiction on the one side, without action for the admission up- on the other side of the line. Is it not so ? What is thf-re gained by the South if the j\.is;-oun Ime is extended to the Pacific, with the interdiction of slavery north of it? Why, the very argument which has bi en most often and most seriously urfied by the South has been tliis: we do not want Congress to legislate upon the subject of slavery at all :, you ought not to touch it. You have no power over it. 1 do not concur, as is well known Iroin what I have said up.in that question, in this view of the subject ; but that is the southern argument. We do not want you, say they, to legislate upon the subject of slavery. But if you adopt the Mi.-^souri line, and thus ui'erdict slavery north of that line, you do legislate upon the subject of slavery, and you legislate lor its ret^triction, without a coirespoiiding equivalent of legislation south of that line for its admission ; fir I insist that i( there be legislation interdicting slavery north o( the line, then tin- principles of equaliiy would require that there stiould be legi'; tht latter period or time to which I hate referred — ihe last fiiiy years; b..t iii,"se I btlieve are the most iirominent. I do not deduce ;roni the enumeration of the acis of the one side or the other any just cause of reproach to the one side or liie other, aitliough one side or the other has jirs- 30 dominated in the two periods to which I have referred. It has been at least the work of both, and neillier need justly repioach the other ; but I must say in all candor and sincerity that least of all ought the South to reproach the North, when we look at the long list of measures we have had under our sway in the councils of the nation, and which have been adopted as the policy of the Government, when we reflect that even opposite doctrines have been prominently advanced by the South and carried at different times. A bank of the United States was established under the administration of Mr. Madison, with the co-operation of the South. I ^ ^ -^ -tr <^^ / JJ //■J'^