E 668 .H483 Copy 1 ./^/ If Congress, in the exercise of this admitted right, a right no better established because of the President's admission, believes that the or- ganizations from which these members come as Representatives are in disloyal hands, and that to receive the members would complicate our difficulties, can the President complain, ought the President complain, that we stop to inquire into facts ? The President has not told us that in his opinion the Legislature of a single recon- structed State is loyal. If he thinks so, why has he so often interfered with their legislation? Why is martial law continued in each one of them, when its existence depends on his will alone ? Why did he say to the Georgia conven- tion that Georgia should not pay a certain debt? Why to the North Carolina convention that the ordinance of secession must be declared null and void, and not simply repealed? And why, I ask, if these States are loyal and entitled to the dignity of States, does the President almost daily set aside, by the orders of military men, holding place at his will and discretion, the sol- emn acts of their Legislatures ? The President made it a condition that the reconstructed States should abolish slavery themselves, and adopt the constitutional amendment abolishing it iVirothers. Ilcthought hchad thepower, but whether he had it or not, he assumed and exer- cised it. But now that slavery is abolished, why are military officers throughout the South extending military protection to the negroes against the laws of the whites? They set aside entire codes of laws, and yet hold their places subject to executive approbation. i^ty purpose is not to condemn the Executive. All he has done may be necessary. I mean only to say, if these things are necessary, his plan of reconstruction is a failure, and Congress is not to be reproached for its short delay. If these organizations shall be recognized, is mar- tial law yet to prevail? Arc newspapers yet to be suppressed ? Are negroes yet to be protected by the bayonet? Will these States still reject the fact of freedom and deny the freedman the right to hold and enjoy property ? And if they so legislate, are judges and jurors and marshals who execute the State law, backed Ijy State militia, to be arrested and tried before Federal soldiers, under martial law, for offenses against national authority ? Will the President continue; , this work, and yet call these organizations inde- pendent and equal States of the American Union? Or does the President ask that Con- gress shall recognize the reconstruction, that he may be relieved of this unpleasant but neces- sary duty? For surely, these violations of the republican principle, in the late seceded States, would not be tolerated by the President if the conviction of overpowering necessity did not force him to commit them. But if the Presi- dent has been driven to these great things, which close the doors against the iidmission of his own theory, will not he or Congress have to continue them even after admission ? Congress ought to be excused from this work. If these organizations are loyal, why is not their legislation all on the side of lo3'alty? T'j ^ their legislation is right, why does the Presi-^, dent set it aside and have the military daily triumph over the civil power? If the organi- zations are disloyal, neither the President nor his friends should ask their recognition, much less should they denounce Congress for its refu- sal. For if disloyal, the President is certainly responsible for the fact. Congress is guiltless, for Congress has had nothing to do with it. The President acted without our advice. He might have acted worse if he had taken it. But whatever the responsibility, the honor, or shame of reconstruction, it is his. If disloyal organ- izations have resulted, I acquit the President of all design to bring about such result. But if he sees that such is the fact, no pride of opin- ion or false sense of humiliation should standJ>^ in the way of its acknowledgment. It will re- quire the wisdom of both the executive and legislative departments of the Government to give us peace. Let us have that wisdom com- bined. Let the President reject the counsels of false friends, and let Congress learn to trust his integrity. I have expressed no distrust of the Presi- dent's fidelity to principle. I express none be- cause I feel none. He felt it his duty to give civil government at once to the revolted States. That was the natural desire of every good man. He attempted it, l)ut has not yet removed mar- tial law from a single State. I do not blame him, for it is evide"t he cannot. He said his object was to '"en ' le the loyal people of the State to restore the State to its constitutional relations to the Federal Government, and to 9 present such a republican form of government as will entitle the State to the guarantee and protection of the United States." Did he put the power in loyal hands, and if so, have they presented such a form of government as he desired? If they have done so, military law should wither and die, and the civil power of those States is too sacred a thing to be touched by the rude hand of the soldier. The misfortune is, that, however sanguine the ^President in his hopes of securing a loyal basis, he failed. He had snatched from the shoulder of the disloyalist the deadly musket, and vainly thought that acts of unmerited generosity in the moment of his defeat would molt his stub- born heart to repentance. The pardon was so sudden, and made so general, that its motive seems to have been misapprehended. There may have l^een, there probably was, a tempo- rary feeling of gratitude in the first moment of helpless confusion, but it was soon thought to be more of a favor to the victor than to the A'an- quished. For a short time it may have been asked in suppliant spirit. It was soon de- manded as a right. The musket, it is true, was gone ; but that which was even far more potent in their hands had been substituted. The mus- ket had been seized to perpetuate slavery. The 'musket could not save it. The ballot had once done so. The ballot might yet save the sub- stance and traditions of slavery, though the musket could not save its form. For all this I have said Congress is not responsible. The President selected his own classes for pardon and for exception. He put his own construc- tion on the act of Congress, and assumed that pardon for treason gave back the ballot to the y traitor. After issuing the amnesty proclamation ho proceeded, as I have said, to issue another on the same day providing for the reorganization of North Carolina, which was followed bj' a procla- mation of a similar character for each one of the seceded States, leaving out Louisiana, Tennes- -'vee and Arkansas, which had been reorgan- ized under Mr. Lincoln. The first part of it declares it to be the duty of the United States to see that each State has a republican form of government, and then proceeds : "Now, therefore, in obedience to tlie hisrh andsol- — emn fluties imposed upon me by the Constitution of the United States, and for the purpose of enabling the loyal people of said State to ort^anizeaStategrov- ernment, whereby justice may be established, domes- tic tranquillity insured, and loyal citizens protected in all their rights of life, liberty, and property, I, Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, and Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, do hereby appoint William W. Holden provisional governor of the State of North Carolina, whose duty it shall be, at the earliest practicable period, to prescribe such rules and regulations as may be necessary and proper for convening a convention, composed of delegates to be chosen by that portion of the people of said State who are loyal to the United States, and no others, for the purpose of altering or amending the constitution thereof; and with author- ity to exercise, within the limits of said State, ,all the powers necessary and proper to enable sucli loyal people of the State of North Carolina to restore said State to its constitutional relations to the Federal Government, and present such republican form of Stat^ government aswillcntitletheStatc to thcguar- antco of the United States therefor, and its i)eople to protection by the United States against invasion, in- surrection, and domestic violence." That is all well enough ; I have no objection to it; but what comes next? "Provide'/, That in any election th.at may bo here- after held for choosing delegates to .any Stnto con- vention as aforesaid, no person shall bo riualiticd aa an elector, or shall be eligible as a member of such convention, unless he shall have i)reviously taken and subscribed the oath of amnesty, as set fortli in the President's prnc!ani:ition of Mny 2!'. A. D. ISOo. and is a voter QualiliiMl and pri'scribid by the constitution and laws of the Statu ol North Ctirolina, in force im- mediately Ijelore the 2Uth day ot :\lay, 18(jl, thedateof theso-called ordinaneeof secession ; and thesaidcon- vention, when convened; or the Legislature thnt may be thereafter assembled, will prescribe the Qualitica- tion of electors, and the eligibility of persons to liold otfice under the constitution and laws of the State — a power the people of the several States comi>osing the Federal Union have rightfully exercised from the origin of the Government to the present time." It will be observed that in the former portion of the extract I have read, the proclamation of the President confines the reorganization of the State, in words, to the loyal men of North Carolina — such I am satisfied was the Presi- dent's intention ; but under the proviso, in my judgment, he commits the error. He says that everybody is a voter, who will take the amnesty oath, and who was a voter under the constitu- tion as it existed May 20, 18G1, the day of secession. The conquered rebel who saw the musket fall from his hands, however criminal with the blood of his fellow-men, had only to acknowledge the futility of further efforts in armed rebellion. No matter what his past deeds, they were pardoned, and the assumption made that such pardon was sufficient again to clothe him with the ballqt, that sacred right of an American citizen. He was not required to say that State law, or even considerations of personal safety, liad induced him to wage a bloody and relentless war against his country. Although he had voted for secession and will- ingly given his treasure and influence to fur- ther the cause, though he had brought terror upon unwilling neighbors and driven them from the support of a slandered and injured Guvern- ment, or compelled them to take refuge in mountain caverns, while their property was seized and turned into the cofl'ers of treason, that man coujd vote on a simple pledge for the future, regardless of the past. The faithful negro, for whose degradatiori and misery these deeds of blood have been done, was again forgotten. The State constitution, made by his owners while he was a slave, of course denied him the suffrage. I have not complained of the President that the negro v/as denied the suffrage. Ihave not compK'ned of anything. I do not now complain, much less do I design to censure. But it seems to me 10 that if the State constitutions of Mississippi and Texas must be barriers in the way of negro suf- frage, those other clauses denying suffrage to any but '• citizens of the United States" should have presented barriers against the whitefcien, who had abjured allegiance to our Government, sworn allegiance to a hostile de facto govern- nu'ut, and for four years had staked their lives npon the success of the one and the total over- throw of the other. After these deeds they may be citizens of the United States ; but if so, I know not how the right of citizenship may be forfeited. The President' s pardon may have restored the right of citizenship, if lost. That may have been the President's view. If so, I have already expressed my dissent. The Pres- ident's pardon went to the life and property, relieved the penalty named in the act giving him the power to offer amnesty, but went no further. If citizenship is forfeited. Congress alone can restore it. It is a political right, 'be- longing to the legislative authority of the coun- try, and which the Executive can neither give nor take away. But, now, giving the pardon its full force, has it not been forfeited, and is Congress not justified in assuming a forfeiture, at least so far as it may be necessary to secure the guarantee of truly republican forms of government? So far as the life and property of the rebels are concerned, I do not ask that anything be abated from presidential pardon. Their blood I do not want. The cause of the country does not demand it. Humanity, indeed, shrinks back from the thought of justice. Justice now would be cruelty, in the eyes of history. Lives enough have been taken. Malice and revenge may claim many piore. National policy rejects the claim. The war itself has confiscated enough. Confiscation will give our coffers noth- ing. It may gratify personal avarice, but this is a poor return for loss of national honor. For me, the rebels are welcome to life and property. I would not add one to the tears that moisten the cheeks of sorrow. I would so make our Government, however, that the heaviest penalty for treason would be the traitor's remorse. To dry up one tear, we are told, brings larger fame than to shed oceans of blood. But while I would extend mercy to the conquered rebel in my power, I must remember the simple dic- .tates of justice in behalf of him who pleads for mercy, and pleads in vain at the hands of that rebel. That generosity, which ceases to flow beyond the limits of our own race, is partial and unworthy of man. While I would forgive the rebel, I wcuild elevate him whom the rebel has oppressed for ages. I would teach each man to abandon his prejudices and seek his own happiness in the haiipiness of his fellow-men, where alone he can find it. For many long years, indeed from the origin of our history as a nation, slavery and its inci- dents have constituted the weapons of political wai'fare. Party power, the lust of office, the whisperings of ambition, the hopes of individ- ual preferment, the ties of political association, too often united with the promptings of avarice, conspired to uphold the institution. The same considerations, with many on the other side, it is too true, may have added to the intensity of the struggle ; but chiefly the abuses of slavery on the one side, feeding, as it were, on increase of appetite, and the strong moral conviction of its injustice on the other, its wrong to the blacr / and its injury to the white race, urged our peo- ple on to the gigantic struggle now just closed. But is it closed? The boom of the cannon is not heard, the crash of musketry has ceased, and the saber has been returned to its scabbard, but the nation seems yet in doubt. The air is tainted with suspicion that all is not right. The war was waged by rebels that injustice might yet live. Within the Union it was thought it could not live ; hence it would go beyond the nation' s jurisdiction. Justice is strong because it is the weapon of Omnipotence. Slavery in form has died. Let it die now, in fact and in truth, and the national life is assured. It was a feeling of conscious right that gave us suc- cess in the recent struggle. Now that success has come, we propose again to reject the truth, , to turn our faces in shame from an honest con-* viction and barter once more eternal justice for expediency. The President undertook to reconstruct on the white basis. The negro is again forgotten. A few negroes voted in the reorganization of Louisiana under Mr. Lincoln, and last March, every Democrat in Congress voted against ad- mitting her Representatives under that organi- zation. The other States are now reorganized, ^ under what we are told is the same plan, and every Democrat here now clamors for imme- diate admission. Why is this? Is it because the negro has been excluded or because the for- mer rebel has voted? Our Democratic friends here certainly have no interest in common with rebellion, and hence their present enthusiastijl^ support, of what they call the President' s recon- struction policy, must spring from the fact that the negro has been excluded. They see, in this, a white man' s Government. The President hav- ing excluded him in the first work of reorganiza- tion, his hopes are, perhaps, gone forever. If loyal Avhites only had been admitted by the President to the ballot-box, those who opposed secession until treason had overwhelmed them, they perhaps would have constructed the organic law of those States in such manner as to leave hope for the negro's enfranchisement hereafter. But who expected to find favor for the black man from the returning soldiers of Lee and Johnston's armies? With the political power in the hands of such men, the future is easily divined. Do not understand me. Mi'. President, as complaining that the negro was not permitted 11 to vote. I only urge that his right was at least equal to that of rebels. If rebels must vote, the uegro ought to vote also. I will make no offensive comparisons ; but to those men who have carried mourning into every household in the land, who rejected all counsel and heed- lessly rushed on to the country's ruin, who must be remembered in the long future when pov- erty parts with its hard earnings to pay the pub- lic debt, who would murder a whole section to secure the privilege of robbing a race, I owe nothing. The loyal Democrats owe them noth- ing. My friend from Indiana, [Mr. Hexdricks,] who sits before me, and whom they defeated for Governor of Indiana in I860, owes them noth- ing — except mercy, and with him I go to grant them mercy. Let him go with me for justice in behalf of others. I know it is often said that unless pardoned rebels could vote, the President would have had no white basis or population to reconstruct upon. This, Mr. President, is a mistake. Thousands were forced into active measures against the Government. Many loyal men in the begin- ning, I know, afterward becam_e disloyal, but had an oath been prescribed l)y the President for white voters, formerly qualified under their respective State constitutions, which would have excluded the active and willing disloyalist, who not only went into i-ebellion himself, but forced his neighbor in, we would now have organiza- tions of a different character in the southern States, and such as would have given the Pres- ident but little trouble. It may not be that such governments as would suit every man in Con- gress, or even a majority, would have resulted From any system whatever, but I contend that a more loyal basis might have been secured among the whites. The white population of the eleven seceding States in 1860 was 5,449,4(33, the free colored population was 132,760, and the slave popula- tion was 3,521,110, making a total population of 9,103,338, three fifths being white and two fifths colored. I look now to the vote of 1860 •for President. Of course I cannot give the vote of South Carolina, because the presiden- tial electors in that State have always been chosen by the Legislature. But in the other States the vote for Mr. Breckinridge was 416, 592, the vote for Mr. Bell 345,919, and the vote for Mr. Douglas 57,723, making an entire vote of 820,234. He who lived in the slaveholding States at the beginning of this rebellion knows perfectly well that those who voted for Bell and those who voted for Douglas were LTnion men. I know it perfectly well. There is not a Sen- ator within the hearing of my voice, who lives in a border State, that does not at once recog- nize the fact. Four hundred and sixteen thou- sand men in the South then voted for Mr. Breck- inridge, and 403,000 of them voted for Bell and Douglas. Then nearly half the people of those States were Union men. An oath reaching the past conduct of these men, a j^ardon, if you please, on the condition that the active^ blatant rebel of 1860 and 1861 should refrain from participating in amending that which he wished to destroy, and which he would now as gladly destroy as ever, would have given us liberal reorganization, institutions of vitality, filled with the spirit of the age, devoid of prejudice, and opening up the brightest hopes for the melioration of the poor, whether white or black. But we have to take things as they are. The President has acted, and his governments are before us. I asked him during the progress of reconstruction but one thing, and that was, if he reconstructed on the rebel vote to recon- struct on the negro vote also. It may have been wront; to do so, but if he had included it, his governments may have worked more har- moniously than they do. This is all I ever asked, all I now ask. There is nothing that I crave for self or friends at the hands of mortal man. So much, 1 thought, could be demanded of justice, so much be craved in the mercy of God. [Applause in the galleries.] The PRESIDING OFFICER, (Mr. Foot in the chair.) Order! Mr. HENDERSON. But if the active rebel vote had been excluded, I was willing to respect the constitutions of those States as they existed before the rebellion, and trust to Union men to so fix the franchise — and they would have done so— as to secure fidelity to the LTnion and peace to themselves. If to secure these ends the negro vote had become essential, it would have been granted. The Senate tvill pardon me if I refer to some remarks made by me at the last session of Congress on this subject of reconstruction. I read from volume two. Congressional Globe, second session, Thirty-Eighth Congress, page 1070 i " When citizens of a State rebel and take up arms against the General Government they lose their rights as citizens of the United States, and they necessarily forfeit those rights and franchises in their respective States which depend on United States citizenship," The Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Sum- ner] interrupted me during the speech, and in reply to a question put by him, I said : "I have already explained my positions on these subjects. I am in favor of the loyal men g-overniug the State. If that be the government of the few, it results from the voluntary disloyalty of the many. They, of their own will, relinquish the right to govern them- selves under the Constitution, and as they have no legal right to gavern otherwise they cannot govern at all. I can nomorecompelthemtogovern themselves according to the Constitution than I can compel a loyal man to vote who refuses to do so. As to the oligarchy of skin or color, I can tell the Senator again that the question of suffrage is with the States. If they confer the franchise on the negro, I surely do not object. "Mr. President, Isay that the only way to crush out disloyalty and bring back peace in this country is to let theloyalmen of the seceded States form Stategov- ernments, and let us uphold them. That is the means upon which we must sooner or later rely to reestablish peace and restore union." I do not think that it is necessary to the re- 12 publican principle that tlie majority, althougli rebels, should govern, and therefore I took issue with the distinguished Senator from Ohio [Mr. Wadk] at the last session. If a majority of the people of a State become disloyal, why cannot the minority rule? I want State governments, indeed they must exist or the national Government is incomplete. Without a State Legislature no State can be represented in this body. Without a Governor or Legislature no State can ask for protection against domestic violence. But if a majority of qualified voters in a State are disloyal and are resolved to overthrow the national Govern- ment, you must destroy their power for mis- chief. Do you destroy their power by leaving them in possession of the State government, where they may levy taxes on the loyal men and use their money in waging war? You do not deny the right of the nation to expel from office, the State officials, whom these men have put in power to accomplish the objects of their treason. You do not deny the right of the na- tion to shoot and kill this majority when it op- poses your power. You do not hesitate to step in with military power to protect the loyal mi- nority against this majority. You admit the power to remedy. Then why is there no power to prevent ? We have been told that * ' an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure." Our Constitution, it seems, is made on no such idea. Mr. WADE. Will the Senator permit me to ask him a question ? Mr. HENDERSON. Certainly; I am seek- ing light. Mr. WADE. How, practically, can one tenth of the peo23le of a State rule that State on re- publican principles ? Mr. HENDERSON. I am not speaking about the theoretical idea of republicanism. I am speaking of republicanism accoi'ding to the Con- stitution of the United States, and 1 know of no other republicanism in a legal point of view ; that is, in all my conduct here I must be guided by that Constitution. lamsworntobesoguided. If a majority in a State, opposed to the Federal Government, have a right to rule, they can se- cede legally. I admit the theory that all men should vote in the State if it can be carried out. But even on the subject of republicanism in a State does the Senator not know that for a number of years, the majority of the people of South Carolina have been slayes, who had no part, lot, or share in the Government? Does he not know that a majority of the people of South Carolina and Mississippi — I mean the slaves — were always debarred of any right in the Government, either national or State? I am considering the Constitution as it is, not as he and I would have it. Mr. WADE. I said upon republican princi- ples, not aristocratical principles, for I know that one man couldgovernaState on those principles. Mr. HENDERSON. South Carolina was one of the original thirteen. Let me ask the Sen- ator if South Carolina had not a republican con- stitution, in the eye of the supreme law, the Constitution of the United States ? Mr. WADE. No ; she never had. Mr. HENDERSON. Then was there an error in the understanding of our forefathers ; they certainly must have deceived themselves when they made the instrument. Mr. WADE. They were mistaken. ,, Mr. HENDERSON. Thatmaybe. Our fore- '/ fathers may have made many mistakes. I have no doubt they did. One of them I would cor- rect, and that is what we are considering. They made a mistake in leaving slavery to exist at all. But they did leave it, and it brought war. I think if we leave wrong to fester, again, some- time in the future, we shall have another war. Mr. WADE. J am with you there. Mr. HENDERSON. I hope you will be with me in many things. But all this is outside of the question. I submit to the Senator, have the disloyal men in a State the right to govern, if they are in a majority? Mr. WADF. In my judgment they have not. Mr. HENDERSON. Then have not the loyal minority the right to erect a State government? Mr. WADE. My opinion is that where only ^ one tenth of the population of any State are loyal, that that State is in such a condition that it cannot govern itself upon republican princi- ples. Mr. HENDERSON. Suppose there are five hundred only, less than half in the State of Ten- nessee or the State of North Carolina, who are loyal ; will the Senator govern that State for all time by military authority as a province of the Government of the United States leather than let the loyal minority make a State gov- ernment for themselves ? If we were to do that, we might pervert and overturn our whole re- publican system. We cannot afford to keep large standing armies for such a purpose, unless we intend to destroy our own liberties. Then let us permit the loyal minority to govern. In • Missouri one third, if not more, of our entire population, has been disfranchised by the new constitution of the State, and some say that a majority have been disfranchised by it if en- forced. Will he turn away Missouri from rep- resentation here, if it be ascertained that a ma- jority of her people are disfranchised? The people have voted on it and have made it the law of the State ; and any man who cannot take the oath prescribed in it, of course cannot vote ; and if it should turn out that a majority of the people have been disfranchised, the Senator trom Ohio must drive me from the Senate because Missouri is not a republican State. Mr. WADE. I apprehend that the rebels will try to drive you out. Mr. HENDERSON. It is the duty of the Government of the United States to recognize 13 the loyal people of a State ; 1^ them form a constitution, and when that i? done, admit them here, and when you have admitted thorn, pro- tect them, if necessary, by the military authority of the country. Did you not protect Rhode Island a few years ago in the very same way ? There is no doubt that a majority of the people of Rhode Island were in favor of the Dorr gov- ernment. Nobody doubted it, and yet this Government maintained the minority there, ' ])ecause it was the established government. Mr. FESSENDEN. Let me ask the Senator whether a military force would not be necessary in order to protect and sustain the government of a minority? Mr. HENDERSON. I have felt the diffi- culty that the Senator presents : I have thought of this question much ; I might answer him by saying that when a majority are disloyal and the minority are without State government, you need a much larger army. For all then is an- archy. If you have a State government, you have civil rules at least, and machinery to dis- pense justice. Hence you have order. If in the one case you have to use an army, in the other your army may be smaller, because the civil power gives its assistance. Again, the State may soon furnish its own police. It is much better for the people of each State to have their own police than for us to send an army among them. Military power is dangerous in peace. If it has to be used let it be in aid of law. If the rebel majority make the law you cannot aid it, and you have not only to over- throw the State law, but you must enforce an adverse policy. That, too, must be done by courts-martial and not by courts-civil. That is the very difficulty the President now has with his new organizations. They are not animated by the spirit of the loyal minority, but by the rebel majority. This is the mistake, and the great mistake. The country wants the Union restored. Many food mbn are astonished everywhere that the Representatives are not admitted. The Pres- "v'dent committed himself to his plan of recon- struction, and his pride demands that he should succeed. The country is greatly indebted to the President for the much he has done in se- curing, at least, outward manifestations of loy- alty by the people of the South. It will be remembered that almost every act of conven- tion or Legislature, overthrowing the traditions and heresies of treason, have been secured by the direct interference of the President. The abolishment of slavery, the adoption of the constitutional amendment, the repudiation of the rebel debt, nullifying the ordinances of se- cession, and giving civil rights to thefrcedmen, may all be traced to that interference. If none but loyal men had been i-eprosented in those conventions, these and many other proper things might have been done without that dic- tation by the President, which upsets the entire theory of his plan. The President has entire confidence in these organizations, because, per- haps, the,y have done all he asked them to do, and promise to do more if he demands it. He does not ask them to give suffrage to the negro, and although it is and ever will be against their own interest to deny it, yet, as they have ever done, they consult prejudice rather than right or interest, and promise all except that. They would give that, if tlie President had asked it. But he was personally, perhaps, opposed to it, and at once the Constitution rose up in his way, and though he could attach any condition to pardon, and require other things in the judg- ment of some men much worse, though he could dictate other measures and did dictate, yet this would be a dangerous usurpation of power. If three and a half million men were disfranchised and robbed of all political power, there was no usurpation in that, no tyranny, no danger to the re^^ublican principle. Some members of Congress are afraid that these organizations are a kind of Grecian horse ; that they are full of armed men, and when once in the citadel they may rush forth and open the gates to the returning Democracy. Whether there are any armed men in them or not, the Democrats think so, and they demand imme- diate recognition. They have stimulated the President's pride, and he interprets these very reasonable fears of his friends as a reflection upon his loyalty and integrity. All that now exists between the President and Congress comes from this simple statement. The Pres- ident is willing to trust them now. Congress asks time to look in and see if there is any dan- ger. The President admits that Congress has a right to do so, but those who opposed his elec- tion and who liave opposed his policy up to this moment tell him that this is an attack on his Administration. Finally, the Senator from Massachusetts, [Mr. Sumner,] always doing some imprudent thing, I cannot always be near him to tell him better, [laughter, ] makes his whitewashing speech, and then the President sees a consj^iracy against his policy. Parties are busy attempting to widen the breach, and on last Saturday a deputation comes up from the Virginia Legislature bring- ing to the President resolutions of that body, indorsing his reconstruction policy, but saying nothing about fealty to the Constitution or loy- alty to the Government. Mr. Baldwin, the spokesman of the delegation, in presenting the resolutions, said : "The people of Virginia and their representatives accept the result and abide by the consequences of the late contest." "Accept" and "abide by!" "Chief among the results," he said — " is the universal conviction that the Union of thwe States is an established fact. We recognize this Gov- ernment as our Government, its Constitution and the rights which it promises as our rights." 14 It was their Government in 18G1. Tlie Con- stitution, save and excepting slavery, was then as it now is, and the rights it secured are no more sacred than in 1861, when the Gosport navy-yard was destroyed and Harper's Ferry was surrendered to rebel soldiers. If those rights are more sacred, it is simply because the negro is now entitled to freedom. But Mr. Baldwin says, further: "Another great result is the final overthrow of sla- very. This has been concluded by constitutional amendment. The General Assembly of the State of Virginiais engaged earnestly in consideration of these subjects, and wc can only say that whatever policy may be adopted will be for the moral culture and im- provement of the condition of the freedmen; and to treat them with harshness and injustice is against our feelings." Mr. Baldwin says that great results have flowed from the war, and one of the greatest is the overthrow of slaverj'. Virginia accepts this result and recognizes the Government as her Government, and the Constitution thus changed as her Constitution. We are here assured that Virginia has gone to work to secure the "moral culture"' of the negro and to "improve" his condition. If this be so, it is a little strange that General Terry interferes by military order to set aside a solemn act of that Legislature, designed, as he says, to sell all the negroes into slavery again under the pretext of vagrancy. But if the Virginia Legislature, in the process of reorganization, can busy itself in matters per- taining to the moral culture of the negro and the improvement of his condition as a citizen of the country, why is it that the national Le- gislature, through which, against the bloody protest of Virginia, the negro has become free, cannot aid and assist the reconstructed Virginia Legislature, in this humane and commendable work, without l)eing held up all over the coun- try as radicals, Jacobins, and Red Republicans ? If Mr. Baldwin can accept the freedom of the slave, why cannot he accept that which will keep him free ? I say nothing of the antecedents of Mr. Baldwin and those who came with him. Mr. WILSON. Allow me to ask the Senator if this Mr. Baldwin is the Mr. Baldwin who was a member of the confederate congress. Mr. HENDERSON. I think so. Of course it is the same. Mr. WILSON. I should like to know if it is the same Mr. Baldwin who nominated Gen- eral Lee the other day, as the next Governor of that State, in the Virginia Legislature. Mr. HENDERSON. The same man, Ithink. Mr. SUMNER. And he has been addressing the President of the United States ! Mr. HENDERSON. I do not object to his addressing the President of the United States. That is not my complaint. Senators run ahead of me and break up the connection of my thought. I cannot think so much as others, nor so fast. I was going to say that my objection consists not in the appearance of Mr. Baldwin and his associates. I would have them come, and come often. I like to hear expressions in favor of the Constitution as it now is. I like to be assured of a returning sense of loyalty. Congress only asks to be assured of the sincer- ity of the professions. The President seems to be satisfied. He commenced, however, with the work of reconstruction last May. Congress commenced only in December. When Con- gress shall have been engaged at the work as^ long as the President, it may be equally satii/ tied. One should scarcely be upbraided for a want of belief in any proposition, unless he has neglected the opportunities for information. Conviction in the human mind comes from the evidences adduced. Before we believe any proposition, and especially such a proposition as the sudden conversion of the people of the seceded States to unaffected and sincere loy- alty, we should be excused for demanding the proofs necessary to establish it. I complain that the President himself being satisfied takes it for granted that Congress ought to be satis- fied, and in reply to Mr. Baldwin uses some expressions that tend to no good. There is no use of controversy between the Executive and Congress. I profess to be, and am a friend of the President's, and shall use no language, even i in expressing differences with him, that maj^ tend to excite the country against him. His language in this reply will be interpreted as an attack upon certain members of Congress, at the least, and possibly upon Congress itself, should a difference hereafter spring up between them. He says, in effect, that one rebellion has been put down against the southern men, and now he intends, if necessary, to put down a rebel- lion against somebody else. Of course I am not included in this new conspiracy or rebel- lion. My friend from Kentucky, [Mr. Guth- rie,] the other day, in a moment of excitement, almost threatened the dissolution of the Union again. This is not oil on the troubled waters. The President says, in his reply to the Virginiji^, delegation, as follows: "The Government, in the assertion of its powers, and in the maintenance of the principles of the Con- stitution, has taken hold of one extreme, and with the strong arm of ])hysical power has put down the rebel- lion. Now, as we swing around the circle of the Union with a fixed and unalterable determination to stand h^M, if wctind the counterpart or the duplicate of the same spirit that played to this feeling and these persons in the South, this other extreme which stands in the way must get out of it, and the Government must stand unshaken and unmoved on its basis. The Government must be preserved." The Senator can now understand. Mr. SUMNER. What is the meaning of that? I do not understand it. Mr. HENDERSON. I do not know that I understand it, but if I do, it means the rebels and the radicals have played see-saw, and he intends to stop it. That is the whole of it. I want to be plain. I will read the former sen- 15 tence, however, and then jDcrhaps the Senator can understand it for himself. The President says: " I do not intend to ?ay anythinpr personal, but you know as well as I do that at tho beginning, and, in- deed, before the beginning of tho recent gigantic struggle between the different sections of the coun- try, there were extreme men South, and there were extreme men North." The Senator is one of the extremest I ever knew ; but the President proceeds : "I might make use of a homely figure (which is sometimes as good as any other, even in tho illustra- tion of great and important questions) and say that it has been hammer at one end of tho line and anvil at the other; and this great Government, the best the world ever saw, was kept upon the anvil and ham- mered before therebcllion, and ithas been hammered since the rebellion; and there seems to be a disposi- tion to continue the hammering until the Go vernment shall bedestroy ed. I have opposed that system always, and I oppose it now." The Senator will now understand that he is hammering at the other end of the line, and he may get hammered soon. [Laughter.] Mr. SUMNER. I do not understand any such thing. Mr. HENDERSON._ The Senator is slow to understand. I hope it comes from conscious innocence. But, Mr. President, to be serious. I deprecate this language, it tends to no good. It comes, I fear, more from feeling than from judgment formed on a proper consideration of the case. Great interests are at stake, and they who now wield the power of this nation, both in the executive and legislative departments, have a grave responsibility on their shoulders. If mistakes werejieretofore made in the organi- zation of the Government, now is the time to correct them. Our forefathers were wise men, perhaps the wisest that any age has given us. No one doubts their integrity, their unselfish devotion to true republican principles. If they had carried out their own repeatedly expressed convictions on the subject of slavery, this war of the rebellion would not have come. We all know that considerations of an early union, the necessity for protection against foreign Powers, as well as the supposed immediate demands of trade and commerce, added to an indisposition or absolute fear to grapple with the avarice and prejudice connected with slavery, induced them in the formation of the Government to ignore the condition of the African slave. They mournfully contented themselves with keeping the word "slave" out of the Consti- tution. They scorned to sanction, by direct words, its existence, but yet provided, under another name, that the nation's power should , be used to mend, when broken, the chain of human bondage. They excused themselves and the Government they made, by putting the responsibility on the States. They hoped, in- deed they expressed the hope, that the States would soon emancipate, and they framed a Constitution admirably suited to that condition of things. Slavery was inconsistent with the very principle on which they built. To save the pain of cutting, they consented to leave one fiber of the cancer, hoping that nature would soon heal it. Nature did not heal it, but the cancer grew from year to year until the whole body-politic became diseased. The last five years have been spent in a grand surgical op- eration to save the life of the patient. The cancer has been cut to its roots. The patient is suffering, but he is stronger than when the operation commenced. Who is the timid sur- geon that would now hesitate to remove the last particle of disease? If there be one, that man will be responsible hereafter for much suffering. Some say, leave it with the States : they will cure themselves. The State govern- ments are a necessary part of the national Gov- ernment. The President tells us one cannot exist without the other. They are the limbs of the human body. Would you partially remove disease from the arm and then tell the arm to cure itself? Would you half cure the heel and foolishly trust to nature for the balance simply because the heel is so far from the seat of life ? A limb sick, makes the body sick, and he who would preserve health and vitality must ward off disease at every point. I have been led to these remarks by looking at the present condition of the southern States. Is there no symptom of disease there? All over the country Congress is denounced be- cause it does not accept the President's healing or restoration of those States as a perfect cure. Is the old disease eradicated? If so. Congress ought to admit their Representatives, and it deserves the denunciation of the country in default of speedy action. Does the President himself believe that the cure is pertiict? If we admit them they must henceforth he treated as loyal States. We must give them the exercise of all local and municipal power not granted to Congress. In that case we should at once re- move martial law. The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus should be restored. It is now suspended by the will of the President. When once admitted, thecondition of thefreedmanand the poor white, must be left to them. The suf- frage cannot then be changed without their free consent, uninfluenced by any considerations. If admitted, and they are strong enough to repu- diate the public debt, withdraw the pensions from the wounded veterans, or deny the claim of loyal States for expenses and loyal men for damages, the country must accept it, and ac- cept it in peace. I do not fear many of these things, but the President himself seems to fear much. If hfe is satisfied with these organiza- tions, why does he not treat them better? During the session of the Georgia convention Mr. Seward telegraphed to the provisional gov- ernor, as follows : " Your several telegrams have been received. The President of the United States cannot recognize the 16 the people of any State havinp resumed relations of loyalty to the Union that admits as lepral obligations contracted or debts created in that name to promote the war of the rebellion. "WM. II. SEWARD." Why? Was not Georgia an independent State? The President said it was. Did not Georgia h.ave a right to assume and pay any debts she pleased? What right had Air. Seward to tele- graph to the convention of Georgia that Geor- gia should not pay a debt? And yet my Demo- cratic friends say the President's policy must be sustained. What policy ? Is it the policy of letting the President do as he pleases, reor- ganize a State government, and wherever it runs counter to his views to stop it in its legis- lation afid say, " Thus far shall thou go and no further. ' ' But if Congress undertakes to inter- fere, not interfere, but hesitate, to sanction these asperfect and legitimate Sta'te governments, they are a set of Jacobins, ' ' French revolutionists, ' ' "dangerous men," who ought to be turned out at the point of the bayonet. The President calls it ' ' hammering at the other end of the Hne." The State of Tennessee has been reorganized. How reorganized ? The President himself was the beginner and the originator of it, as the mili- tary governor of Mr. Lincoln. The Tennessee members are here seeking admission. But the Presiderft has put General Thomas at Nashville. The Senator from Illinois [Mr. Trdmbull] the other day presented his proposition here, put- ting judicial powers in the hands of the military, for certain purposes in the seceding States. It was to protect negroes, when discriminated against in their civil rights, by State legislation in those States. The press all over the country opposed to these so-called Jacobins announced the fact that the Senator from Illinois, the great leader of the new revolution, had introduced a most dangerous proposition, carrying military men down .South to usui-p the entire political power of the revolted States and to administer mock justice at the point of the bayonet. I did not like it myself. I am afraid of even the ap- pearance of military rule. But let us go on with the case of Tennessee. The President usurps these powers, I should say uses them, and the President is right, but the Jacobins are wrong. Will you tell me the difference ? Is not General Thomas put in command in Ten- nessee by the President himself? Yes. Is he not kept there by the President? Yes. Did not General Thomas under the President's or- ders arrest a bishop of the diocese of Alabama, the other day, and imprison him? Some said it was only because the bishop would not pray for the President. And yet General Thomas is not dismissed. But suppose Congress should undertake to interfere with the worship of tlie Christian religion down South, what would be said about it? Let me read an order issued by General Thomas a few days ago. It is a letter addressed to Messrs. Guild & Smith, at'^orneys- at-law, at Nashville : Headquarters Division of the Tennessee, Nashville, Tenn., Jnniianj 17, 1866. SiEs: It has been reported to Major General Thomaa that you, as counsel for one John Allen, of Smith county, have instituted suit against James S. Bur- ham, of Sumner county, late captain first Tennessee mounted iulantry, for rent for the said Allen's farm while the said farm was under the control of the United States as abandoned property. This is clearly a violation of General Orders, No. 29, from these headquarters, often published in the^ t newspapers of the State, and must have been seen by'/ you. lie directs me to say to you that you will at once cause said suit to be discontinued and dismissed forever, failing in which you, John Allen, and the circuit court clerk of Sumner county will be arrested and brought to trial before a military commission. By command of Major General Thomas : R. W. JOHNSON, Brevet Brigadier General, U. S, A, Messrs. Guild & Smith, Attorney s-at-law. Mr. HENDRICKS. How do you like it? Mr. HENDERSON. No, the proper ques- tion is, how do you like it ? Why, Mr. Presi- dent, if this is not hammering on one end of the line, or the middle of the line, I do not know what it is. These attorneys bring a suit under a State law, and the military otiicer in chief command, under the direction of the President, announces in a letter to them that they will be arrested and imprisoned and tried 'r before a military commission if they go on with the suit; the clerk of the court is notified that if he issues process he will be seized. Of course the letter does not include the judge, because the judge cannot take cognizance or jurisdic- tion of the case until the writ of summons has been returned ; but if the clerk should happen to issue process, and it should be served, I suppose General Thomas would go further, and if the judge should undertake to render judg- ment in the case, the judge himself would be seized and hammered, under the judgment of a military court. Mr. President, I have said this whole sup- posed controversy between the President and Congress is perfectly ridiculous to me. Why is the country convulsed from one end to the /- other now about the return of these States? Did they not go out voluntarily ? Did we not beg them to stay? Was not the life of every man in this land endangered by their conduct? Have they not given us untold sorrows and afflictions in defiance of almost base entreaty and much gratuitous, but scorned advice? I told them these difhculties would come. They went. And now, because I do not vote them back the very moment they present themselves — before the President himself will abide by their laws, indeed while he feels bound daily to set them aside — I am a Jacobin, a leveller, a maniac on the subject of negro rights. Some of these gentlemen around me may be danger- ous men ; I do not know but they are ; I am not. I claim to be conservative. I have al- ways been conservative. If entitled to the 17 designation of radical at all, it must be a con- servative radical. Nov/, sir, here is General Terry, of Fort Fisher notoriety Mr. WADE. Fame. Mr. HENDERSON. I beg pardon, it is fame, and not notoriety. What does he say in regard to a law of the State of Virginia? He is in command at Richmond. Was he not put there by the President of the United States, and can he not be removed by him to-day? Cer- tainly. What has he done? Tlie State of Vir- ginia a short time ago passed a vagrant act. Here is a general order issued by General Terry, dated Richmond, January 24, 1866 : "By astatiife passed at the present gossion of the Lofishiture o!' Viri'inia, entitled 'A bill providing for tlio punishmout of vagrants,' it is enacted, among other thing?, that any justice of the peace, upon the complaint of any of certain officers therein named, may issue his warrant for the apprehension of any person alleged to be a vagrant and causesueh iierson to be api>rchendcd and brought before him; andthat if upon due examination said.iustice of the peace shall find that such person is a vagrant within the defini- tion of vagrancy contained in said statute, he shall issue his warrant directing such person to be employed for a term not exceeding three months, and by any constable of the county wherein the prooeedings are had be hired out for the best wages which can be grocured. his wages to be applied to the support of imself and his family," &c. This act applies to white people too. The Senator from Illinois will notice that it does not apply to the negro alone ; it applies to all per- sons ; and yet General Terry says that it is made a mere pretense for selling negroes into slavery, and his order concludes as follows : " It is therofore ordered that no magistrate, civil officer, or other person shall in any way or manner apply or attempt to apply the provisions of said stat- ute to any colored person in this department." They may sell white men, since this order, into slavery and the negroes may buy them, but Gen- eral Terry says they shall not sell a negro into slavery ; the white people may soon tind them- selves sold out in the Old Dominion to the blacks and the sale enforced Ijy military law, and yet the President sustains all this. The President placed General Terry there and may remove him or overrule his orders. The President sus- tains him, however. But because we hesitate to regard the State of Virginia as fully reor- ganized, and now devotedly attached to the Union and resolved to sustain the Constitution directly m the teeth of these acts, the President strongly thinks we are "hammering atone end of the line." t Mr. SUMNER. Allow me to ask my friend if the President did not probably refer to the Dem- ocrats as hammering at the other end of the line. Mr. HENDERSON. My impression is from all 1;he circumstances surrounding the case, that the Senator from Massachusetts is one of the men alluded to. I think I can say to him as Nathan said unto David, "Thou art the man." [Laughter.] The Senator certainly did make an imprudent speech when the report on the con- dition of the southern States came in. The President should know that the Senator from Massachusetts makes many imprudent speeches. It is utterly impossible to keep him straiglit un- less some more conservative man, like myself, can whisper him right. [Laughter.] If I could have reached him in time, I am satisfied, he would never have used the term "white wash- ing." [Laughter.] I am fearful the President attaches too much importance to this impru- dent speech. We pay no attention to it here. Again, has not General Sickles issued an order at Charleston, with twenty-three sections, making up an entire civil code for the govern- ment of South Carolina, the Legislature being in session? Mr. WILSON. The most comprehensive ever made. Mr. HENDERSON. Certainly, taking al- most the entire government of South Carolina under military control and military power. The President can do this thing — I say the Presi- dent, because Generals Terry, Sickles, and Thomas, and all these men act through the President only — the President of the United States can do all these things, and Congress, cannot help him. Congress never saw business of this sort going on, that it did not want a hand in it, and I think we have a right to have some hand in it. The President admitted the right, and he is now estopped from denying it. General Grant issued an order, some time ago, right here in the city of AVashington, im- mediately under the President's eye, and he certainly must have known all about it, which is general, and applies to all the eleven seceded States. It is as follows : [General Orders, No. 3.] War Department, •» Adjutant General's Office, Washington, January 12, 1866. To protect persons against improper civil suits and penalties in late rebellious States: Military division and department commanders, whose commands embrace or are composed of any of the late rebellious States, and who have not already done so, will at once issue and enforce orders protect- ing from prosecution or suits in the State or muni- cipal courts of such State, all officers and soldiers of the armies ofthe United States, and all persons thereto attached, or in anywise thereto belonging, subject to military authority, charged with offenses for acts done in their military capacity, or pursuant to orders from proper military authority : and to protect from suit or i)rosecutiou all loyal citizens, or persons charged with offenses done against the rebel forces, directly or indirectly, during the existence of the rebellion; and all persons, their agents and employes, charged with the occupancy of abandoned lands or planta- tions, orthe possession orcustody of any kind of prop- erty whatever, who occupied, used, possessed, or con- trolled the same pursuant to the order of the Presi- dent, or any of the civil or military departments of the Government, and to protect them from any pen- alties or damages that may have been or may be pro- nounced or adjudged in said courts in any of such cases; and also protecting colore.l persons from pros- ecutions in any of said States charged with offenses for which white persons are not prosecuted or pun- ished in the same manner and degree. By command of Lieutenant General Grant: E. D. TOWNSEND, AnsiMant Adjutant General. >r^it^*.\ 18 That order is substantially the bill of the hon- orable Senator from Illinois, the. bill that this Congress has passed, called the Freedincn's J3ureau bill, and which it is understood all over the country the President will veto. Why veto ? Did not General (xraut issue this order with the con.sentof the President of the United States? Can there be any doubt about it? Now. sir. is jiot all this controversy perfectly ridiculous? It seems to me so. But for its serious importance, the apparent earnestness of persons and parties in this maze of incon- sistency and palpable contradiction would be amusing. Mr. HENDRICKS. If the Senator will allow me, I should like to ask him one question : whether he reads these orders of the military commanders for the purpose of approving them, or for the purpose of condemning them, or simplv for the information of the Senate? iMr." HENDERSON. I do not know that the Senator has any right to catechise me as to the purpose with which I read a paper to the Sen- ate. But he certainly cannot misunderstand my object. Mr. HENDRICKS. I disclaim the right; but when so able a Senator is addressing the body, of course we would like to know what he means by the evidences that he brings be- fore us. Mr. HENDERSON. The Senator address- ing the body is not so able, but it is a little strange he has not already indicated to the ever quick and ready mind of the Senator from In- diana what his purpose is. Certainly he has dis- played no ability whatever if he has failed to make himself understood by that Senator. I ^haveno objection, however, to making the state- ment in answer to the question so plain, " that he may run, thatreadeth it." The idea has gone abroad, and it is most care- fully urged, that Congress has resolved to gov- ern the southern States as provinces, that the committee of fifteen was organized to carry out this purpose. The party that opjjosed Mr. J ohn- son's election take this opportunity to announce their devotion to the Union, and clamor for im- mediate restoration. Of course military rule is denounced. This is a strong card. I dis- like military law as much as any man. The whole country dislikes it. Even the soldier, reared under our institutions, who enforces it, dislikes it. Congress is arraigned for taxing the southern people without representation. This is another powerful argument, an argument that could not be answered, if the very organizations now presenting themselves did not propose to tax half their people, for all time to come, with- out any voice or representation now, and with- out hope of it in the future. Again, we are charged with being disunion- ists. We are so designated in the columns of leading papers. And why is it? The people are taught to believe that harmony and peace and good-will reign supreme in the southern States; that they have loyal governments or- ganized, administering justice without delay, sale, or denial, and protecting all their inhabit- ants ; that the spirit of rebellion is far removed from them, and thej' only need an opportunity now to show their old i)roverbial love and at- tachment for the Union. The war was waged for the Union, and the people long to see it restored. This natural desire is seized upon to array hostility to Congress. The President is praised ; his reconstruction policy indorsed in the strongest terms. Lincoln's reconstruction policy, in form the same, but ditfering only in that it brought Union men to Congress and secured another State to the Union in case of confederate success, was denounced by the same men. Congress is arraigned for the Freedmen' s Bureau bill. I do not like it myself, and only supported it as a means of getting what is right. I had nothing to do with the committee of fif- teen, and I hold now that the House of Repre- sentatives cannot control my vote, against my will, in the admission of a Senator from one of the seceding Staes. No law of Congress can control it. The States are in the Union, but in the Prevsident's view they are not yet out of rebellion. The Attorney General says they are not, and the President treats them worse than provinces. If the reljellion is over and the cause of it removed, why these proceedings which I have enumerated? Mr. President, I think I have shown that the Executive is estopped from complaining of Con- gress. Political parties cannot consistently ap- plaud the President and then say one word against Congress. Does the President design continuing this military rule after the Repre- sentatives are admitted? If necessary now, will it be less so after admission ? My friend from Indiana, however, with all his instincts against these things is no doubt ready to join in the general cry and say, great is the President and accursed be the Jacobins. v Mr. HENDRICKS. I have not said that. Mr. HENDERSON. I am glad of it. Many others have said it and do now daily say it. Mr. HENDRICKS. My position with re- spect to the President of the United States is just this : I am not under that sort of obliga- tion which is known as party obligation. I expect to indorse and approve in his conduct everything that my judgment and conscience approve. The Senator would not ask me to do less, and I think he would not ask me to do more. Mr. HENDERSON. Certainlv not. Mr. HENDRICKS. My modesty wotld prevent my appearing before this body as the peculiar champion of the President. I did not help to make him President ; Init what is right in his Administration I shall support, and I think I may say now that perhaps ] will find something in his conduct to approve 19 whicli some of the Senators about me may disapprove. Mr. HENDERSON. I was aware of the modest}' of my friend. [Laughter.]. And I am aware of another thing ; I am aware of his dis- tinguished ability and his sagacity in seizing upon anything, anything fair and legitimate, of course, that may l^e necessary to build up the ^ party with which he thinks the best interests ) of tiie country are connected. His modesty will also prevent his telling us whether he approves these acts of the President or not. Mr. President, I now repeat mj' regrets that the President has seen fit to exact at the hands of Congress a strict compliance with his policy' on the subject of reconstruction. I say com- pliance, for I cannot interpret his speech to the Virginia delegation in any other way. I regret it, becaiTse this is no time for party excitement. The best interests of this great country cannot now be safely connected with party success. To solve our difliculties needs true patriotism, and true patriotism is too often choked out by the rank selfishness of party politics. Mr. ^VILSON. _ Will the Senator allow me to ask him a question? Mr. HENDERSON. Certainly. Mr. WILSON. I want to ask him, as he is giving his opinions pretty freely, if he has any anxiety whatever in regard to the opinions of this Mr. Baldwin, or any man of that class, or any men in the country who sjmipathize with them, that they will be able to influence affairs iu any of the States that in 18fJ4 voted for ]Mr. Lincoln for President. I ask him if he does not believe that those States, bj' a most deci- sive majority, a majority larger than they gave in 1864, are to-day opposed to the admission of any of the States that have been in rel:)ellion into these Chambers until they are so adjusted as to give proper security for the future? Mr. HENDERSON. I have answered so many questions that I have scarcely been able to keep the true question in view. Injustice and wrong often triumph. Our only consola- tion is, that such triumphs cannot be perma- nent. I do not know how far the people will be deceived, nor how long the deception will last. The Union must be restored and this Congress must do it. It must be cemented in the everlasting principles of justice, but I want it cemented immediately. Mr. WILSON. So do L Mr. HENDERSON. We cannot stand still. Work is to be done, and if we do not go for- ward we shall fall back. It is a crisis in our affairs, and a crisis as important as that of 186L I am not mistaken in what I say. The rebel- lion is now suppressed. The rebels are rest- less and discontented. Some loyal men have become frightened at what they term the dan- gerous extremes of radicalism, and, after having been the most radical of all radicals, they are ready to fly to the arms of rebels and seek safety in their conservatism. It is an epoch in our hi'tory from whicli will date new political organizations. New schemes of personal am- bition will soon be developed. The pride of our military chieftains will be appealed to, and cunning plans laid to secure their favor. This period is similar to that in English history, when Charles I became a prisoner in the hands of those who fought for the rights of man against the unlimited prerogative of the Crown. It is the condition of France when Louis XVI was a prisoner, and the combined enemies of the republic had melted away in the blaze of re- publican ardor. Let us avoid the excesses of the conquerors in those cases, but let us be firm in securing the legitimate results of the victory. Those results may be known to all who know the causes of the war. The war was another contest of prerogative with inalienable right, an effort to perpetuate privileges of the few, at the expense of tlietoil and tears of mil- lions. It was to sanctify, by human law, what was condemned in the law of God. It was, in fine, to ignore the very existence of millions of people in the government and laws of a coun- tiy, that claims the highest civilization, the largest freedom and the broadest charity for mankind. In the judgment of Congress these danger- ous and anti-republican notions have again crept into and are likely to be conserved in the new organizations, and Congress will likely de- mand that they be eradicated before admission. It is quite certain that Congress is not satisfied with the present condition of things, and if We determine not to accept them, the decision should be made at once. Some say we cannot go behind the action of the President. He has pardoned the rebels, and that pardon restored them to all the rights of citizenshiij, and among those rights is the right to vote. As the Constitution now stands, the regulation of the franchise belongs to the States. But surely Congress has entire control over the question of United States citizen- ship. Congress may make a citizen of the Uni- ted States. It made many, by joint resolution, in the admission of Texas. Congress made citizens of the Stockbridge and other Indians by law, and recently it has declared, by bill already passed, the entire African race to be citizens of the United States. It seems to me that this power exists in Congress, as a great political right, irrespective of the crime of re- bellion or other offertse committed by the citi- zen himself. If this lie true, then Congress may provide for an enrollment of all its citizens in the seceded States, and require an oath, or proof if you please, of original loyalty in any form to be prescribed, and iu default of such oath or proof, or both, if thought necessary, the party so neglecting or refusing might be declared decitizenized. If this can be done much difficulty may be avoided, for Congress 20 may at once provide for the erection of State governments in those States by the loyal me'n only. In this way the entire question of negro suflrage may be avoided. As those State gov- ernments existed at the date of secession, the negro could not vote, but at the same time, it was likewise provided, in nearly all of them, that none but citizens of the United States should vote. For instance, the constitution of Mississippi is in the following words : " Every free white male person of the age of twenty- cue years or upward, who t;hall be a citizen of the United States, and shall have resided in this State one year next preceding an election, and the last four months within the county, city, or town, in which he olJers to vote shall be deemed a qualified elector." Under the constitution of Texas, ' ' every free male person who shall have attained the age of twenty-one years, and who shall be a citizen of the United States, &c., (Indians not taxed and Africans and the descendants of Africans excepted,") .shall be entitled to vote. The constitution of Arkansas provides that — "Every free white male citizen of the United States who shall have attained the age of twenty- one years,"' &c. Shall vote. The qualifications in Florida, Ala- bama, Tennessee, and Louisiana are the same. The right has been exercised, I know, but ma}' be seriously questioned, whether any but citizens of the United States may properly be permitted to vote in any State. But however that may be, the constitutions to which I have referred required this test for the elector ; and if Con- gress can take away citizenship, the State has already taken away suffrage, and reconstruc- tion on the basis of purel}' loyal men, few or many, white or black, will give State govern- ments, with which the President would iind no cause, in my judgment, to interfere by military power. The usual answer to the exercise of this power by Congress is that it is an ex jjont facto law, and therefore prohibited by the Constitu- tion, which declares that — " No bill of attainder or ex poet facto law shall be passed." But is it in any sense an ex post facto law ? Mr. HENDRICKS. Yts. it is. Mr. HENDERSON. The Senator says it is. An ex pod facAo law is one that prescribes a punishment, for the commission or doing of an act, to which no penalty or forfcitui'C was at- tached at the time of doing it, or which increases the punishment after the commission of the offense. The question which I aimed to put, is, can Congress, in the exercise of its power for the safetyof the nation, the preservation of the l)ublic welfare, take away the rights of citizen- ship for any cause whatever? We have before us a question now, the decision of which will involve the solution of this. Congress hereto- fore gave the right of sullrage to the people of this District in their own municipal govern- ment. Can Congress pass an act to take away that right of suffrage and put the city or Dis- trict government here in the hands of a board of commissioners, to be appointed by the Pres- ident or by Congress ? ^ Mr. HENDIUCKS. The Constitution of the United States places the government of the Dis- trict of Columbia entirely under the control of Congress, and therefore we may do for the Dis- trict of Columbia, I presume, whatever a legis- lative bq^y may properly do for the people un- der its jurisdiction. But, with the permission of the Sen.ator, I wish to suggest further, that if the President of the United States, as we all know he has done, has pardoned a very large portion of the people of the South upon a con- aition with which they have complied, they then, in my judgment, so far as the penalty of the law stands, are free from its penalties, and that to take avv'ay the right of citizenship is a penalty which we cannot impose as a punishment after the President has pardoned the parties. Mr. HENDERSON. The Senator persists in misunderstanding me. , I am not speaking now of crimes, nor the effect of the pardon. 1 have answered many questions, and, perhaps, not very satisfactorily. The Senator will per- mit me to ask him one question, as it may con- vey to him the best possible answer to the ques- tion he has asked me. In the State of Indiana, to-day, the uneducated are entitled to the right of suffrage. Does the Senator believe that a constitutional convention of the State of In- diana, if now in session, could deprive every man in that State who cannot read and write of the right of su^rage ? Mr. HENDRICKS. I have no doubt that the constitution of the State might be so amended as to limit the right of suffrage according to tlie pleasure of the convention, if that action .should be approved by the people. But, sir, the ques- tion I suggested to the Senator was this: can you, aftcF an act is done, impose a penalty not known to the law at the time the act was done? Can we, according to the sentiments which gov- ern legislative bodies in these modern times, enact an ex post facto law, and punish a party for an act done in a manner not provided for by the law at the time the act was done, and especially after the President, or any other party having the power to pardon, has exer- cised that ]iower. Mr. HENDERSON. The Senator will re- member the Federal Constitution provides that no State '• shall pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obliga- tions of contracts." He says that the State of Indiana may pass such a law, and it will not be subject to the objection that it is ex jjost facto. How, then, is it that a similar act passed by Congress conflicts with a ])rovision in the same words? The limitation is no stronger upon Congress than upon the States. The Senator might deny that th(^ power claimed is a dele- gated power, but his admission estops him from 21 calling such a law an ex post facto law. But I will discuss this subject no further. T refer to it as a way or means of k'^gally securing loyal governments, provided the present organiza- tions in the seceding States be rejected by Con- gress. Mr. CLARK. If the Senator from Missouri will pardon me one moment, 1 wish to ask the Senator from Indiana a question. ' Mr. HENDRICKS. I do not care a-bout being drawn into this debate. Mr. CLARK. I do not wish to draw the Senator from Indiana into the debate, but I desire to put this question : whether, if a State finds it is necessary for its own protection — not for the punishment of rebels, but to guard itself, and for its own protection — may it not exclude these men from voting ? Would that be an ex post facto law ? Mr. HENDRICKS._ That is not the ques- tion that I was discussing with the Senator from Missouri. I have no doubt of the entire con- trol of the States over the question of the right of suffrage, and it may be exei-cised according to the pleasure of the State. The Senator from Missoui-i is advocating now, as a punishment upon the pardoned rebels, the withdrawal of the right and character of citizenship. As a penalty, as a punishment, I do not think it can be imposed after the President has pardoned. Mr. HENDERSON. The Senator assigns me a position, the least defensible he can find, and then makes his attack. I try to explain, but he will not accept the explanation. 1 have not disputed, and for purposes of the argument I will not dispute, that the pardon of the Pres- ident relieves these parties of the penalties of their crimes, provided the conditions of the pardon have been kept ; but this is a separate and distinct question. I asked the Senator, even had there been no rebellion, if it is within the jurisdiction of Congress to pass an act de- claring that any portion of the inhabitants of the United Stiites are no longer citizens of the United States ? Is this a political power that the body politic enjoy for their own protection and for their own purposes ? That is the ques- tion. If the State of Indiana has the perfect right to enfranchise or disfranchise any portion of its population, is it not within the jurisdic- tion and competency of Congress to declare that certain parties are no longer citizens of the United States, even if there never had been any rebellion ? The honorable Senator from Indiana, instead of answering the question as put both by my- self and by the Senator from New Hampshire, refers with apparent pleasure to the fact that the pardon having been exercised by the Presi- dent, the rebels are made i^ew men, that not only penalties are removed, but privileges, if ever lost, are fully restored. I am not disposed to be technical in the premises, but if 1 were, it strikes me that the conduct of the President toward these organizations, since their estab- lishment, furnishes strong evidence of the exist- ence of a fact at the time of granting the pardon which would render it void. At the common law, to render a p;irdon valid, it must express with accuracy the crime intended to be forgiven. Hence, in the case of the United States vs. Steller, decided in the United States circuit court at Philadelphia, the court say that gen- eral pardons are not granted by the Crown but by Parliament, and that though our constitu- tion may possibly confer the right, yet the right, if it exists, has never been exercised. In that case, the defendant had been indicted for ' 'coun- terfeiting and uttering counterfeit coin," and there was a general verdict of guilty. In the President's certificate of pardon it was recited that the defendant had been convicted of coun- terfeiting, and thereupon a full and unconditional pardon was granted. The court refused to ex- tend the pardon beyond its express terms, and hence the party was left subject to the disabili- ties imposed by the conviction and sentence. Another principle necessarily resulting from this was, that whenever it may be reasonably supposed that the King, when he grants a par- don, is not fully apprised of thoheinousnessor wickedness of the crime, or that he has been imposed upon by c'oncealment or false repre- sentations of the party to be benefited, the imrdon is void. But a more familiar principle sSll is the one previously alluded to, that if a pardon be granted on conditions and the con- ditions be not complied with the pardon is void. It may be that the President was fully advised of the character and extent of the crimes of the rebels when he issued his proclamation. It may be that no imposition was practiced on him to secure the amnesty, but if it be so. it surely can- not be that they have kept the conditions of the pardon, at least the President cannot think so. The pardon was general, and included the en- tire community with certain exceptions. Those exceptions could not participate in reorganiza- tion. The community jiardoned did participate. In ascertaining whether there has been a com- pliance with the conditions, we must not, we cannot, look to isolated or individual cases. We must look to the community, the body-politic, and hold all responsible for the action of that pardoned community. The condition was that the pardoned, that is, the masses, with certain- named exceptions, should " faithfully support all laws and proclamations which have been made during the existing rebellion with refer- ence to the emancipation of slaves." Nobody doubts now that freedom is legally se- cured to the negro, and nobody d-oubts that full civil rights attach to that condition, yet Missis- sippi has passed a law denying the right of the negro to hold real or personal property. The same is true, I believe, of South Carolina, and hence the order of General Sickles, to which I have referred. The President himself, through 24 He discovered that in 1860 the entire popu- lation of California was 379,994, and that out of that number, 273,337 wore males and only 10C),t)o7 were females. He discovered, also, that Illinois had 808,941 white males and only 805,350 females, an excess of 93,591, enough to give Illinois an additional member of Con- gress under the contemplated rule. He dis- covered also that Louisiana had an excess of males over females of 22.000, Kansas 11,000, Iowa 34,000, Indiana 48,000, Missouri 03,000, and other western and southwestern States in like proportion, while Connecticut, New Hamp- shire, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and the Atlantic States generally have a large excess of females over males. Hence while this rule might coerce the southern States to adopt negro suffrage, it would at the same time weaken the representative power of the East ; in other words, while it might coerce the South to admit negro suffrage, it might drive the North and the East to woman suffrage, for which they ■were not prepared. The very moment Mr. Bl.vine made some figures on this subject and laid them before the House of Representatives, that proposition was dead forever. Perhaps it ought to have died. But if so, it should have died of another reason. You cannot enfran- chise everybody in the States, and it may be asked with great power, why should not the civil, instead of the political society, be repre- sented In Congress? Mr. SHERMAN. What was the date of that speech ? Mr. HENDERSON. Sometime in the early ])art of January, the precise date I do not re- member. The figures I use are taken from the census, and I may not state the objections just as Mr. Blaixe stated them. I do substantially, for I happened to hear his remarks against the meas- ure which had the approbation of many west- ern members, and which yet is thought by them to be the best. The real objection to it in my mind consists in cheapening the franchise to obtain political power. As I have said, however, the proposition died so soon as it was found that the East was to lose by it. I do not blame these Eastern gen- tlemen. They want the privilege to exclude their women and minors from the suffrage, yet they want them counted in the basis of repre- sentation in the Federal Government. At least, they object to any jienalty being imposed on them for their exclusion. But 1 hasten on. Some- thing was to be done. The negro must he en- fi'.'inchised, but the difficulty consisted in choos- ing words that would place the penalty for denying suffrage on the South, and yet let the North i),nd East deny it with impuuily. The next dilliculfy was to select words, that would act as a penalty on the South, without incur- ring the prejudice against negro suffrage in the North and East. Mr. I^laink finally obtained the happy words, and these hajjpy words are now embodied in the proposition of the com- mittee, which I have read. The first inquiry of t^e country will be, what object is contemplated by this amendment ? What is to be effected? After six or seven thousand million dollars have been expended, after mourning has been brought to almost every house in the land, after blood enough has been spilled to float our heaviest monitors, after the deepest interest has fixed itself in the pub- i, ' lie heart and intense anxiety is depicted on every face, it is simply contemptible to trifle with the sad earnestness of an intelligent peo- ple by the use of ambiguous language. They have a right to know our meaning, the purport of our measures, and they will be satisfied with nothing less. This resolution is now before us, and many earnest Union men think it must bf> adopted — that its defeat will be attended with great danger to the best interests of the coun- try. Hence, many will not stop to inquire what results may flow from it. I read it again : Representatives shall be apportioned anions; the several States which may be included within this Union according to their respective numbers, count- ing the whole number of persons in each State, ex- cluding Indians not taxed: Provided, That wlicnever the elective franchise shall be denied or abridged in any State on account of race or color, all persons ,| therein of such race or color shall be excluded from the basis of representation. It will be observed that after the word ' ' Rep- resentatives," the first word in the resolution, the committee have seen fit to drop the three words which follow in the text of the Consti- tution as it now stands, to wit, "and direct taxes." So if the amendment should pass, representation may be fixed on one basis and direct taxation on another. So jealous were our forefathers on this subject that they never thought for a moment of separating taxation and representation. In their judgment, such separation was tyranny. It was so declared throughout the revolutionar}' struggle, and at the time of the adoption of the Constitution a proposition like this, under which, a people / , paying full taxes, should have but half repre- sentation, would have received no favor what- ever. A direct tax would operate harshly against my State. It is a tax levied in pro- portion to the numbers of the people. The people in the newly settled States are gener- ^ly poor, and a tax on each person of an equal amount may be paid easily by the rkh men of the old settled States, while it woula drive to poverty the people of the new. if the rich States of the Atlantic sea-board, now having the power in consequence of the wicked ab- sence and rebellion of the South, should be able to adopt a basis of representation under which they could pay the public dcljt by direct taxation, the West and South might be impov- erished, while the people of New England and the middle "States would grow yet richer. I shall watch rebel influence and keep It out of the ebuncils of the nation. The North will 25 be forced to join me in this, but in foolish fear of rebel influence I will not consent to run into this danger. My State is as much interested in this proposition, as the East is in having their women and minors represented in Congress. The loyal men of the South, robbed of their substance by rebel tyranny, will join Missouri loyalists in having this great del)t paid, as far as possible, from the wealth of the country, and not wrung almost entirely from the sweat of ^Tjoor men. The poor men go from the East to the vXVest. The rich stay where they can enjoy the comforts of an older civilization. I see no reason to run in base fear from anti-negro aristocratic rebel influence into the hands of a moneyed aristocracy. But whence comes this eternal specter of rebel power, in Congress, to frighten -" us from all propriety ? I thought we had deter- mined to reject all rebel organizations in the southern States, and to tolerate and recognize none but loyal Governments. If we do so, where is this rebel specter? It is, like many other ghosts, used for a purpose. I am not afraid of such ghosts. The people of this coun- tiy will never suffer any but loyal men to gov- ern these southern States, and the sooner, the disloyal there know it, the better for them. I know they may give us trouble, and a great //deal of it. But the loyal men will possess the country at all times. If I am right, then, this proposition is not so efficient, as a means of weakening rebel influences, as to place, in the hands of the more wealthy States the power, to tax unjustly the loyal and disloyal white and black of the poorer States South and West. I acquit gentlemen, of course, of any such ihten- tion, but such may be the result. The answer comes back to me, all this maybe avoided by the simple act of justice to be per- formed by the States, the enfranchisement of the blacks. Well, is it right to enfranchise them? Do you say so? You do not so de- clare, but you expressly declare the right to disfranchise. You admit that a good reason may exist for the disfranchisement, and invite - 'i it by implication. Suppose the white southern landlords agree to accept your proposition. Suppose that they take diminished representa- tion and unjust taxes by Congress, both upon themselves and the negroes, in lieu of the right which you propose to give them, the right to deny the negro representation in the State or- — ganizations and the privilege to fleece him from year to year of his hard earnings by unjust State laws? Has Missourino interest in this bargain? Remember, if the negro is represented in Con- gress, his interest is the same as that of my con- stituents. Our forefathers gave him a three- fifths representation as a slave, and a full rep- resentation when free. This proposition offers a bargain by which the southern white may rob thenegro. providedhe, forhimselfandthenegro, will consent to be robbed at the discretion of others. Massachusetts and South Carolina made a bargain once before — T mean the bar- gain by which piracy was legalized and man stealing carried on by law until America was filled with slaves. Other people suffered by this thing. My State luid others are likely to suffer by this new compact, and I think it best to have nothing to do with it. But I have said the people will ask what this amendment means. It can mean but one of two things. First, it is intended to deny representation to a non-voting population ; or, second, it is intended to secure sufifrage to the negro. If the committee intend to secure the first object, it must be because of the existence of a correct, living, vital principle in our Govern- ment, that a non-voting population in one of the States ought not to be represented in the Federal Government. If this be the design, I should like to ask on what princijjle the women, mi- nors, and aliens are to be retained in the basis of representation ? If any principle be involved, these, too, must be excluded from the euumera- tion in each State because they do not vote. If it be said that no principle is involved, but that it is a mere matter of temporary expediency, I answer that I will never give my sanction to a constitutional provision on any such consider- ations. If there be no principle involved, then the amendment should not be made. But whence comes this idea, I have already asked, that a non-voting free population shall npt be represented in Congress? Every tradition of our fathers; every utterance by those who builded our institutions; every principle on which they are founded, utterly reject and con- demn the idea as false and mischievous. Our fathers left the suffrage with the States. Suf- frage at that day was much more limited than it now is. In some States only freeholders voted ; in some the heads of families ; in all a property qualification was necessary ; in some the free negroes voted, in others they did not. Mr. Madison said : "The definitionof the right of suffrage is very justly regarded as a fundamental article of republican gov- ernment." And he says further: " To have reduced the different qualifications in the different States to one uniform rule would i)robably have Ijeen as dissatisfactory to some of the States as it would have been to the Convention." Hence the Convention left the suffrage ques- tion to the States, believing, in the language of Mr; Madison, that it could not be "feared that the people of the States will alter this part of their constitution in such a manner as to abridge the rights secured to them by the Federal Con- stitution." In this Mr. Madison and the good men of his day were deceived. The States in many instances, itis true, enlarged the right of suffrage to the whites, but as slavery became profitable, the rights of the free negroes were gradually "abridged," until all, except some of the New England States, denied them the suffrage. I 26 infer from this language of Mr. Madison, if the Convention could have foreseen this revolution in sentiment, the child of avarice in the white man, and not the result of discovered incai)a- city in the Wack for the duties of citizenship, some provision would have been made to pi'e- vent tJtiis abridgment of the suffrage. I am left to infer us much from what he says, in the thirty-ninth number of the Federalist, in deiln- ing a republic. He says : " It is essential to such a Government that it be de- rived from the great body of tlio society, not from an inconsiderable proportion, or a favored class of it; otherwise, a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their Uovernment the honorable title of republic." These things were not provided against be- cause they were not anticipated. They have now come upon us, and it behooves us to rem- edy the evil, not by saying the evil may con- tinue, and if it does, we will add another evil to it, but by making our State governments truly republican. Representation was purposely made unequal in the Senate, but in the lower House it was purposely placed where the States could not alter it if they would. It was based, not on voters, but on the masses of people, old and young, black and white, sane and insane, ex- cluding Indians not taxed and including three fifths of the slaves. There was a contest as to whether slaves should be represented in the Federal basis. There never was any contest as to free persons. All admitted the justice of including them in the ratio. In the fifty- fourth number of the Federalist, Mr. Madison says : "It is not contended that the number of people in each State ought not to be the standard for regulat- ing the proportion of those who are to represent the people of each State." He says further, in that connection, that — " The establishment of the same rule for the ap- portionment of taxes will probably be as little con- tested." Though he insists the rule in the latter case is not founded on the same principle. This is true. Nobody can doubt that representation should be based on population. Taxes may properly be based on wealth ; but is it not monstrous that a proposition should be urged, at this day of experience in the science of gov- ernment, proposing that representation should be substantially confined to voters, while taxa- tion is purposely left to be apportioned on nnm- ijers? Missouri has now a greater population than Massachusetts. Massachusetts has three times her wealth. Under this rule Missouri will pay larger taxes than Massachusetts and have less power in Congress. Mr. Madison said that representation should be based on population because "the rule is understood to refer to the personal rights of the people, with which it has a natural and universal connection." In the case of taxation, he said "the rule is in no case a precise measure and in ordinary cases a very unfit one." The less wealthy States had to accept the rule in the case of taxation. It was then, and is now, hard enough. But when I am asked to give up political power, that the practical application of an always un- just rule in taxation, now to be made odious, may be enforced against me, I cannot, I will not, consent. It is no answer to say that you mean well. If so, why not do well? The ne- groes of the South must be included in the ratio of Federal representation or we are no better than those who exclude them from th; suffrage. You give their former owners the right to drive them from the ballot-box, and the only punishment you propose is to rob both the oppressor and the oppressed of their money. It is a compromise that the whites may govern the blacks in the State governments of the South and wring from them sweat and teai-s, provided the northern and eastern States are permitted to control the national Government. This is a Government of the entire people. Women and minors have an interest in it. Your legislation acts upon them. It gathers taxes of them without asking them if their respective States permit them to vote. Why should they not be represented here,_ even though they are not permitted to vote in the States? The Constitution provides that — <. "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general wel- fare of the United States." If the negroes now in the State of Louisiana continue to live there with the whites, their pur- suits will be of the same character as those of the whites. Whatever may be existing preju- dices between the whites and the blacks, the future will develop an identity of interests. What is favorable to one will be favorable to the other. What is injurious to one will be injurious to the other. If the white man grows sugar-cane and makes sugar in Louisiana, the negro will do the same. If, in Alabama, the old planter or Yankee adventurer who will go down there, undertakes to grow cotton, the negro will grow cotton also, and the interests of the planter and the Yankee adventurer and the negro are identically the same. You cannot separate them. Have the women of Maine and Massachusetts no interest in the legislation of Congress? Do you dare say that they are not interested as much as the men? Do they not pay taxes? The Senator from Massachusetts told us the other day that James Otis said that taxation without representation is tyranny. The Sena- tor from Maryland [Mr. Joiixsox] replied that this referred only to representation in the Eng- lish Parliament, where we had none. But if the principle be true only as applied in that case, how dare you make partial representa- tion? If it be odious and tyrannical to deny representation entirely, the least diminution of it opens the door to wrong. Lead us not into temptation. Power is dangerous, when prop- 27 ^ erly obtained. When unjustly obtained, it can- not exist, except in the corrupt elements which gave it birth. Mr. SUMNER. I will remind the Senator that Otis claimed representation for each indi- vidual. He did not claim it merely for the communilv. Mr. HENDERSON. I did not know that he went to that extent in the speech alluded to. It only malves the case stronger. Mr. SUMNER. He did, as I shall show at the proper time. Mr. HENDERSON. I was very well satis- fied, without examining his views, that the prin- ciple he laid down must go to that extent. Half representation is half as bad as no representa- tion. If it be tyranny to deny it entirely, it is half tyranny to deny the half, and half tyranny is equally a violation of the great principle of right. It is only a difference in degi'ee ; it is onlj' modified tyranny, but it is tyranny at last. Now, sir, Congress is constantly revising our impost duties ; and equally often we revise our stamp, income, and excise taxes ; and if you will give the distinguished Senator from Maine. [Mr. Fessexdex,] the chairman of the Com- mittee on Finance, the power to regulate im- post and excise duties according to his will and pleasure, it is quite certain that he can build up the jaeople of the State of Maine, or the people of all New England if he choose, and make them rich while other sections may be dragged down to poverty. Look at the varied products of this country and think how taxes may be adjusted. You do not raise cotton in Maine, nor in Massachusetts, nor in any other New England State. But you manufacture the article in large quantities. Cotton is the chief production of a great many of the south- ern States. Suppose you increase your tariff on cotton goods and levy an excise tax upon the growth of cotton in the southern States, giving a drawback for the tax on the raw ma- terial, as you proposed at the last session of Congress to the manufacturer, but denying it to the producer, thereby levying in effect an export tax and paying bounties to the manu- facturer, how long before New England would be filled with the stream of wealth that had its source in the sweat of southern laborers? Is not the negro interested in this? He may have no ballot in Alabama. But this should excite your sympathy and not tempt you to rob him. The same may be said of the sugar interests of Louisiana, the tobacco and grape interests of Missouri, the turpentine interests of North Carolina, the pork interests of Ohio, and the whisky interests of Illinois and Indiana. It is useless to spend time in enumerating the many evils to spring from unequal and unfair representation. They meet us at every step. When representation in the lower House be- comes unequal, the salt of the Constitution is gone. This looks like an effort to give the power in the lower House, by another compro- mise, to the same section of country to which an undue power was given in the Senate. If it must be done, let it be done in another name than mercy to the Ijlack man. Again, the Constitution provides: " The Congress shall have power to regulate com- merce with foreign nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes." In the formation of the Constitution this power was considered by the commercial States of such great importance to them that in con- sideration thereof they bartered away the lib- erties of a race. With unequal representation in the hands of the commercial section, what injuries might not be inflicted on the agricul- tural portions of the community? Are not the negroes interested in the exercise of this power by Congress? For many years they must look to agriculture for support. Laws, oppressive to them and ruinous to their pursuits, may be passed under this and other clauses of -the Constitution. The interests of the negro deserve consideration ■■ ■' ether he enjoys the franchise or not. Again, Congress has the power "to declare war,"' "to raise and support armies," "to pro- vide and maintain a na^^'." The mercantile interests of our nation are now in no kind mood toward England. I do not propose to speak of the action of England during our late war, or to condemn or indorse the denunciations of her conduct toward us. I simply refer to our pres- ent attitude to that Power to show the injustice of the pending proposition. Is M'ar to be de- clared? Some persons desire it to be done, and thousands of our people might grow rich with "letters of marque and reprisal." The mercan- tile interests might be rejoiced at an opportunity to retaliate for real or imaginary wrongs. How- ever such a war might gratify indi\'idual or sec- tional feeling, however it might add to our national glory, j'ct it would be a war of vast projiortions, destroying the material interests of the nation, plunging us into almost hopeless bankruptcy, and bringing poverty and misery to all classes. If a minority of the people, in- habiting the Atlantic 'itates, had the power and the will to declare such a war, and to impress the majority into the armies of the nation to maintain it, what sort of a Government would ours be ? Can it be said that the negro of the southern States, struggling in poverty to support himself and family, has no interest in preventing this war, simply because he has no ballot? What difference does that make to us? The women of New England who did not vote de- nounced the war of 1812, and rightly held theii places, in the basis of congressional representa- tion, to force an early peace after an ilnprofit- able and unavailing war. The women and men of New England denounced the war of 184C with Mexico. Had the women and minors been excluded from the basis of their representation. 28 and war then declared against the voice of New England voters, another war than the Mexican war might have come. In such event, who would have said that the women and minors had no interest in the matter and therefore no right to complain, because thej could not vote iu their respective States ? I might continue this course of remark, but I dismiss it ■and look for a moment to the popu- lation South and some of the effects to be pro- duced. If these States shall deny the suffrage, then by this rule you exclude from representation, in the single State of Virginia, 548,907 human beings, largely more than the white population of Kansas, Delaware, Minnesota, Oregon, and Florida, under the census of 18G0. Think of it, Mr. President. These five States are enti- tled to six Representatives and ten Senators in Congress, with a white population of 499,117, •which is 40,790 less than the negro population of the single State of Virginia. You have six Senators and ten Representatives in Congress, representing a white population in these States less than the negro population of the single State of Virginia. Do your excise laws not reach these negroes? Do not your tariff laws reach them? Will they not have to buy im- ported goods, and pay like others your excise and income taxes? I am answered, "If the States want justice done to the negroes and themselves, let them admit the negroes to the right of suffrage." That is not satisfactory. Suppose, as I have said, the whites of these States resolve to accept the compromise or bargain you tender them? Suppose they take the chances of unjust legislation for the priv- ilege of robljing the negro by local law ? But I proceed. The five States named have a representative population, as the Constitu- tion now stands, of only 559,017, which is but 10,110 more than the negro population of Vir- ginia. The negro population of Georgia ex- ceeds the white population of Rhode Island, Kansas, Delaware, and Oregon, by 45,525. The negro population of Mississippi exceeds the white population of the States last named by upwards of 17,000. These States have five Rep- resentatives and eight Senators in Congress. The negro population of Georgia and South Carolina is 878,018, largely more than the en- tire white population of New Hampshire, Ver- mont, and Rhode Island, it being only 810,636. These States have six Senators and eight Rep- resentatives, but this vast population of nearly a million souls will go unrepresented. Add the negro population of Virginia to that of Georgia and South Carolina, and it almost equals the white poiiulation of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Rhode Island. The proposed amendment does not declare that this population shall go unrepresented, but it implies that a good reason may exist for their local disfranchisement in tlie States, and if the States do regard them as brutes, and not persons, they can do so. I, for one, am totally unwilling to permit them to do it. I append a comparative table showing the population white and black in 18G0 in fifteen States, the number of Representatives they now have, the number to which they would be entitled under the Con- stitution as it is, the number to which they would be entitled under the committee's plan, in case the negroes are excluded, the propor- tion of direct tax allotted to each under the ac( of 18G1, levying a tax of $20,000,000, andthe proportion each of said States would be required to pay of a twenty million tax under that Constitution as it now stands, and as the commit- tee proposes to leave it, their slaves being free: o o o -"S= cr» a So « p 2 r o 05WCOO-JtOI-'0005CO>b.l003miO CO I— ' t.0 h*^ ^T •:0 ^T lO CO en en Ol lO O t■:' l— * rf.- Cjl ^^ 4- 1— » C5 C^^ CO H-'j-J Cj^ H-* 'h-*COCn'^V7COClVlo''oCnO^OOf4* O 00 ^r (— ' H- OO Cj OD <3 O to l-O CJi OD S5 O OO *~^^O0^1 1—* pD OO^ CO O "ht*^Tkt*.oV-»'cr;''«DCOrfa-^TG"vOi cocnci O O iX) tf.. ^T h-i c;i o to ^^ to ^f- to o o CO to *»• to I— ' (f.. ^s o 00 CO -J -J -J o to *- CO it- CO CO ctj to , en , C5 , <-' , g fe ;a 0< 03 CO SS.B" 2 w o Boo to o o o --T ro oi *■ ^ _ tO*0*»-.p<>-mcnooo ffi *> "^ o" B » » a o'l'p 2 9 p o '::-^ 29 '3: 6 : W ■ 5^i b:; f vT C5 05 49 eD -a W tS M tS W l(k M «> tn H- --I toi rCC>tOit5iC0lU>lMl g p 5 P ^ C-3 fflp^ S 3 B T CLin ^C' .;^ OD olc ^-' 30 CO cn ,C>CO-JGCHJ0Ot>0— TOO OOOiOOOtCWCOOT-^»^OC5*:iKJ ■ >^ I-* --T 00 en bS !f^ 05 Oi ^I H-'ooic;ij:^jo 05*.c*-1:clo'-*^0^*0*OOQc"ts3C:i'tOCn^'cO OOOCCTtCiCJICn^o^iaiCnOOOOiCOl ^ltCtCQCOCO00Cnts«OWt£>i;n05~I JjXJ ►! >< 2 g g o o^ To sliow the monstrous injustice, however, that may result from the proposed amendment, I may state that should it be adopted and a direct tax of $20,000,000 be levied, the ap- portionment to Virginia would be $1,015,258. The representation of Virginia in the lower branch of Congress would be nine members. •T'he State of Illinois, with sixteen mem- bers in Congress, would pay but $1,088,800. Kansas, with one member, would pay $68, 183. Oregon, with one member, would pay $83,367. Minnesota, with two members, would pay $109,470. Delaware, with one member, would pay $71,369. New Hampshire, with three members, would pay $206,382. Vermont, with three members, would pay $200,402. And Maine, with six members, would pay $399,585. Hence, these eight States, headed by the great State of Illinois, and including three of the New England Sta.tes, would altogether pay $2,177,556. The State of Virginia would have to pay over one million, or nearly half this sum. Virginia would be represented by two Senators and nine Representati%'es, while the States I have named would be represented by sixteen Senators and thirty-three Representatives. Un- der such circumstances the peculiar interests of Virginia industry might possibly be protected by these Representatives from States having diverse interests, but to believe it requires a belief in the improvement of man's moral na- ture far beyond what it promises to be in our day. If a vast public debt is to be paid, the representatives of peculiar interests will likely forget the plodding negro in the South, in their efforts to protect those interests and commend themselves to their own constituents. It mat- ters not by whom the Virginia Representative may be elected, if when here his votes shall be cast in favor of the negro's interest. If he represents the whites he cannot fail to repre- sent the negroes, for their pursuits are regulated by soil and climate and productions. Their pursuits are necessarily similar and their inter- ests cannot be divided. If, then, the object of the committee be to deny representation to citizens of the United States merely because the States see fit to deny them the suffrage, I think I have shown it to be politically wrong, leading to acts of injustice and oppression on the one side, and to poverty and humiliation on the other. I thank the Sen- ator from Massachusetts [Mr. Sttmxer] for his amendment to perfect this proposition. It de- clares that if the negro is to be excluded from the basis of representation, he must be excluded likewise from the basis of taxation. That is fair, and argues a mind fully imbued with the foundation principles of civil liberty. But if this amendment, which is but the repetition of the highest tribute we have ever paid our Re- public, should be adopted, the amendment itself, I suspect, would be abandoned. You leave it to the States to exclude the negro from suffrage. If the States do so, you accept the action and at once proceed to say he is a brute, a thing that cannot enter into the basis of Federal rep- resentation. If, in your judgment, the negro be a person, how shall he be excluded from rep- resentation? This rule, in Mr. Madison' s opin- ion, is the true one and proper to protect "'per- sonal rights." The whole Convention of 1787, a body of pure and upright and wise men, be- lieved with him. If they were right, you cannot deny the negro representation without ignoring every profession of the Republican party and a most impoi'tant principle of republican theory. But if he be a thing, and unworthy of represen- tation, how is it that he is more than a thing for purposes of taxation ? If he is a drone, un- fit to vote, and therefore should have no more voice in Congress than a stone or a stick, why should he be required to pay money for Gov- ernment purposes ? If he be an unreasoning animal, it is enough that he provide himself with the means of life. If he is without capa- city, white men should scorn to take from him the little he may accumulate. Mr. SUMNER. Allow me to remind my friend that the argument of Otis and of our rev- olutionary fathers was. that there should be no taxation, director indirect, where there was no representation. Mr. HENDERSON. That is certainly the 32 to arrive at them cannot receive my sanction. I coultl not vote for his bill two years .ago to abolish slavery ; I cannot vote for his bill to secure political rights now. I desired emanci- pation then, but took a different road to arrive at it. I desire that no State law hereafter shall be permitted to set up the senseless test of color in hxing the qualifications of voters. But I am not now ready to take away from the States the long-enjoyed right of prescribing the qualifica- tions of electors in their own limits. Congress is not now prepared to take and exercise prop- erly this power. Local reasons may exist, and do often exist, for excluding certain persons from the ballot. The people of each State can better judge of these reasons than Congress or the people in other States. But the United States is certainly interested in maintaining a repub- lican form of government — republican both in theory and in jiractice. No State can vitally wound the true repub- lican principle that ' ' all men are created equal, ' ' and that when government is to be established, its just powers must come from ''the consent of the governed," without causing injury and bringing disease into the entire system. If wrong be done in one of the States, it is event- ually felt by the nation. If a State becomes an oligarchy, the deleterious influences are not alone confined to the limits of the State. They cannot be so confined, because the few elect- ors who control State policy are the same who Send IJepresentatives to Congress. The mem- bersof the Legislature, chosen by those electors, select the Senators who sit with us here. If the fountain be muddy, the stream is not clear. If the electors be aristocrats, the representa- tives will rarely be republicans. The right of suffrage," said Mr. Madison, "is a funda- mental article in republican constitutions." "The regulation of it," he further said, "is at the same time a task of peculiar delicacy. ' ' He said, in another paper: "It would be happy if a state of society could be founil or tramed in which an equal voice in making the laws might be allowed to every individual bound to obey them. 13ut this is a theory which, like most tlicories, confessedly requires limitations and modi- fications.'" — Madison Papers, Appendix, vol. 3, p. 15. We all feel the force of these simple words, " Suffrage is a fundamental article of repub- lican constitutions." How true! But yet Mr. Madison and the fathers were content, accord- ing to my reading, to leave the whole subject with the States, under the hope that the people thereof would not "abridge the rights secured to them." That the States have abridged the rights of suffrage and have violated the funda- mental rule of republicanism, as then under- stood in theory, we cannot doubt. An impor- tant question, however, to be considered is, were the theoretical views of republicanism entertained at that day ingrafted on the Con- stitution? I think not. They made a written Constitution, and when they speak of repub- Hcafi forms of government in the instrument itself, they mean simply a conformity with that Constitution. Our fathers did not sanction or approve of, slavery, but they left it existing in what they called republican forms. The time has now come, foreseen by Mr. Madison, (see No. 43 Federalist, ) when a " minority of citizens in some of the States" has become a " majority of persons," when, indeed, a majority of per- sons is found in that ' ' unhappy species of popu- lation abounding in some of the States who, during the calm of regular government, are sunk below the level of man." Truly those-. men have now "emerged into the human^ character," and unless they have the suffrage, the republican system will become diseased. Violence and revolution must follow a denial of suffrage to a majority of free persons in a State, especially when that majority are the subjects, not only of prejudice, but hatred. - But, on the other hand, as this Is a practical question, and must be dealt with In a practical way, I am free to say that I would not to- day open the polls in the seceded States, were It in my power, tothe entire population, white and black. When there is a way to effect a great good without any evil, that way should be adopted. Good is often accomplished through blood, but when It conies in peace, accepted by all, how much better it is ! What would be the result of indiscriminate suffrage now in the South? The ^ whites for two hundred years have taken the ' labor of the black without further comi:)ensa- tion than a scanty support. Perhaps that was all their labor was worth. I do not pass judg- ment on that question now. The negro is ig- norant and brutalized by this long period of slavery. Perhaps the white man would be no better under similar circumstances. I doubt if he would. The negro is poor ; the white man has something left, but not much. The little he has, the negro thinks belongs or ought to belong, in part at least, to him. The belief may be well founded In justice. I will not pass judgment here either. The white is offended that his grasp has been violently loosed from his slave, and like all angry mortals must wreak his vengeance on somebody. He has not power ^V to harm the conqueror; he harms the innocent object of the conqueror's kindness. Like other disappointed men, he would destroy that which he can use no longer. The feelings of the ig- norant and degraded negro may well be im- agined, and I leave to the Senator from Massa- chusetts to imagine the consequences of an open, full, and unlimited ballot m those States now, and especially where the negroes have the numerical majority. Perhaps their excesses, following the ignorant, unskilled use of power, would set back, for years, this great reform. I have no time for further comment on the con- sequences of such conduct. It is. In my judgment, yet proper to leave the qualifications of electors with the States, but not to the extent of allowing them to in- troduce disease and death into the body-poli- tic, by denying In their own organizations the elementary principles of republicanism. Mis- souri has an Interest In the State governments of Virginia, Louisiana, and Texas. If these gov- 33 emments become diseased, the whole body suf- fers, for the States are but limbs of that body. Our governments must be truly republican. The present Constitution tolerates something else. Let us amend it. The preamble of the honorable Senator's resolution indicates that the power to jiass it is claimed, first, in the guarantee clause, and second, in the constitu- tionrlamendmen! aljolishing slavery. It seems admitted that the i^owcr must be derived from these provisions of the Constitution or it does *faot exist at all. ■^ Mr. YATES. Will the Senator allow me to interrupt him? Mr. HENDERSON. Certainly. Mr. YATES. I hope that I am not inter- jecting what I have to say in a wrong place in ,^, the Senator's speech, but I wish to ask him a question. The constitutional amendment, which has recently been adopted, abolishes slavery in all the States ; in other words, it secures freedom to the freedmen. It is not a latitudinarian construction to say that it secures full freedom to the freedraan. Can ^ill free- dom be conferred upon the freedman without conferring upon him all his rights, natural, civil, and political? The second clause of the con- stitutional amendment says that Congress shall g have power to enforce it; that is, to confer i full freedom upon the freedmen, for to abolish slavery means to confer freedom. Another point. Congress, before the adop- tion of the amendment, could not make a citi- zen, and a State could not make a citizen. " We, the people of the United States," "do ordain and establish this Constitution." The people made the Constitution, not the Consti- tution the people. But the Dred Scott decis- ion declared that because a slave might be bought and sold when the Constitution was made, because at that time he was not recog- nized as a member of the society, because he had no rights which a white man was bound to respect, therefore he was not one of the peo- ple, not one of the sovereignty. By the con- * stitutional amendment abolishing slavery, the freedman becomes what? He becomes one of the sovereigns, he is emancipated into the peo- ple of the United States ; and Congress having no power before to make a citizen, except to naturalize a foreigner, and the States having no right whatever to malce a citizen, althougla they may regulate and make the rules by which he may vote, the freedman, the moment the act of emancipation was proclaimed, became one of the people of the United States. " We, the people of the United States," "do ordain and establish this Constitution." Well, sir, the question which I wish to pro- pound to the Senator fi-om Missouri, for whose opinions I have great respect, is, why there is any necessity for constitutional amendments when we have the power under the amendment to the Constitution already adopted now to secure not only in South Carolina or Georgia, \t in every State of the American Union, i. aedom, full freedom, civil and political eman- cipation to every man who comes within that provision of the Constitution. Mr. HENDERSON. Mr. President- Mr. YATES. I am trespassing ujiou tlie gentleman's time. Mr. HENDERSON. I think I understand the Senator, and I only rose to ask him a ques- tion which I think will furnish an answer to all of his questions, for they all bear on the same point. I ask him if there is any slavery or in- voluntary servitude in the State of Illinois? Is it not a free State? Mr. YATES. There is not at the present time any slavery there, and cannot be, I believe. Mr. HENDERSON. Was there slavery or involuntary servitude in that State before the constitutional amendment abolishing slavery? Mr. YATES. There cannot be slavery un- der the amendment of the Constitution. It is impossible. Mr. HENDERSON. There is, then, no slavery now — and there was no slavery before the amendment. I so understand the Senator ; he assents to the proposition. Now, how is it that Illinois does not permit her negroes to vote? She did not before, and does not now, allow them to vote. Then Illinois is not a free State. Mr. YATES. That is the reason that I pro- pose by a bill which shall apply to every State,_ not only to Missouri but to Illinois, to declare' that these men shall have the rights secured to them by the amendment of the Constitution. Mr. HENDERSpN. I am left to infer, then, that slavery exists where the ballot does not exist? I will ask the Senator another question. Are the women of Illinois free or slave ? Mr. YATES. I notice that when gentlemen are driven to the point and to the wall upon this question, they invariably ask, why do you not let women vote? _ Mr. HENDERSON. Not at all. The ques- tion of woman suffrage is not before us. My remark springs naturally from the Senator's position. I have neither condemned nor ap- proved such suffrage. The Senator says slavery has been abolished, and to abolish slavery is to confer the suffrage ; in other words, he assumes that the denial of suffrage is slavery. I thought not. The suffrage may be the best means to pi-eserve freedom ; I think it is. But if the person denied the suffrage, in one of the States is a slave, then slavery exists in all the States, for women and minors do not vote in any one of them, I would perpetuate the negro's free- dom ; but I would do it in such manner as to be effectual. Mr. YATES. I will answer that at the proper time. Mr. PIENDERSON. I am only discussing a question of power. The Senator seems to think I am combatting his desires. I am not disputing his proposition that the negro ought to have the siL^frage. but I am speaking of the way in which it may lie legally done and the extent to which the ballot may be safely carried. The Senator from Massachusetts proposes to do by an act of Congress what I think can only 34 be done by a constitutional amendment. That is the difference now between the Senator from Illinois and m3^self. I think the amendment can be adopted. Indeed, I feel confident of it. Mr. SUMNER. What amendment? Mr. HENDERSON. _ An ainendm_ent_ to the Constitution preventing any di.scrimination against the negro in the right of suffrage because of color. Mr. SUMNER. It cannot. Mr. HENDERSON. I thought, in the bright lexicon of the Senator from Massachusetts there was no such word as "fail." Mr. SUMNER. I thought the Senator meant that this proposition of the reconstruction com- mittee could be adopted. Mr. HENDERSON. Oh no, I never thought that. Mr. SUMNER. I believe that the Senator' s proposition can be adopted, gratefully adopted by the country, but the other cannot be. Mr. YATES. I only put my question for the purpose of showing that under the Consti- tution as it now is, under the new Constitution, so far as the freedmen are concerned, all dis- tinctions on account of color are abolished, and all that it requires is appropriate legislation to carry into effect that provision of the Con- •stitution. It is made our duty to do it ; it is thrown into our hands by the people. Mr. HENDERSON. I was .speaking of the power to pass this bill under the guarantee clause, and not of the power under the consti- tutional amendment abolishing slavery, at the particular moment when the Senator inter- rupted me, for which interruption I am quite frateful, because I am always glad to hear him. was speaking of the guarantee clause and was resisting the position assumed by the Senator from Massachusetts, [Mi-. Sumner,] in claim- ing the power to pass his bill under the guar- antee clause. Now the Senator from Illinois thinks that the constitutional amendment and not the guarantee clause gives the power. I understand him to say that the guarantee clause does not give it; that is, he admits that before the adoption of the constitutional amendment there was no power in Congress to compel a State to admit its negroes to the right of suf- frage. Mr. YATES._ I will explain. I think that under the decisions of the Supreme Court, be- fore the adoption of the constitutional amend- ment, a State had the right to exclude the col- ored man from voting, because he was consid- ered a slave, and not one of the sovereign people. But now the case is altered under the amended Constitution ; he is one of the peo- ple. Mr. HENDERSON. The decision did not adjudge, I hope, a free negro to be a slave. The Drcd Scott case did not deny that a State could give the franchise to a free negro. Nations, as well as individuals, Mr. President, some- times backslide. There may be such a thing as a national fall from grace. Communities sometimes retrograde. The cases of individual reaction are numerous. "We are yet doomed to see many more. Let individuals fall back if they see tit, but let our action here be such as to insure rational and steady progress. The English Parliament and people traveled far along the road of human progress in their con- tests with Charles I. They fell back, however, and for many long years the milestone then planted by them was lost to their vision. The French Revolution, that most sublime convul- sion of human j^assion and human aspiratioDj struck the shackles from twenty-five million people, who, rising from the degradation and misery produced by ages of misrule and opj^res- sion, proclaimed liberty, fraternity, equality to all men. Yet they soon fell back from their advanced position. Their own excesses, their divisions, and irrational measures paved the way for a new dynasty. Louis XVI went to the guillotine, and Napoleon came to the throne. This is a most important e^joch in our his- tory. We now have seven or eight million dissatisfied, discontented, maddened whites. They art to be restored to the body-politic and made contented. The nation can be generous. It must be generous. But charity must not be converted into weakness. Four million ne- groes commingled with a hostile population, scarcely knowing whether they are slave or free, uneducated, immersed in poverty, ready for any scheme to benefit themselves, and yet too igno- rantto select the best means, they must bo cared for, and a way be provided to give them con- tentment and knowledge and security for the future. They demand our sympathy, but that must be the sympathy of reasoning men, and not the fruitless simpering of children. If we make mistakes now it will be many years be- fore we can recover. Let none be made. But I may dismiss all questions affecting the policy of this bill, for it is enough that it is unconsti- tutional. To return to the point from which I digressed, I repeat, that, for all purposes connected with this bill, in determining what is a republican form of government, we must look to the Con- stitution itself, we must be controlled by facts and not b}' theories. Theory is good to induce a change of organic law, but it is not good to authorize legislation in the face of that law. Our forefathers, in fact, admitted the republic- anism of Virginia with two hundred and ninety- three thousand slaves ; the republicanism of Maryland with one hundred and three thousand .slaves ; that of North Carolina with one hun- dred thousand, and South Carolina with one hundred and seven thousand. If these States could be republican in form with so large a number of their people in slavery, surely the denial of suffrage alone could not, liy any an- alogy, take from them the character of repub- licanism. I would be glad to think otherwise, but I cannot force my mind to believe what contradicts the history of the time. Mr. SUMNER. Do I understand my friend as insisting that the denial of the franchise is consistent with a republican government ? For 35 instance, take the State of South Carolina, which denies the franchise to more than half its pop- ulation. Mr. HENDERSON. In theory it is not. Under the Constitution it was regarded as a republican State at the time of the adoption of the instrument. Mr. S CJMNER. It did not deny the fran- chise to more than half its citizens then ; they were slaves. xMr. HENDERSON. It then had only one ht.ndred and forty thousand whites, and had one hundred and seven thousand slaves. It also had eighteen hundred free negroes. I think it more nearly a republican State now than then. Practically, the question of suffrage was left to the States ~* Mr. SUMNER. But that is the question, whether they were left to deny the suffrage to any freeman on account of color. Mr. HENDERSON. If that be the ques- tion, then the point is against my friend, for both South Carolina and Virginia did deny the suffrage to the free negroes on account of color only, at the time when the Constitution was made, and when it was adopted. Virginia had upward of twelve thousand free negroes thus denied. i/Mv. SUMNER. But the question is— I can- not anticipate my friend's conclusion on that point Mr. HENDERSON. My conclusion is, that a mistake was made in recognizing a constitu- tion as rei^ublican that permitted slavery. I knew of no way to get rid of it except by con- stitutional amendment. I think another mis- take was committed in leaving each State to so far abridge the right of suffi-age as to change, in theory, the republican form. But such is. the Constitution and you cannot change it by act of Congress. That is my conclusion. Mr. SUMNER. You are wrong; it is a question of theory, and I say that our fathers so held. ^ Mr. HENDERSON. But our fathers did 'lot deal with it in the Constitution as a question of theory, but as a question of fact. Whatever may have been their theories, I mean only to say that the text of the Constitution does not carry them out Mr. SUMNER. Now, the practical point is, did our fathers concede to any State the power of disfranchising citizens on account of color ? I utterly deny it, and I challenge my friend to show any authority for it. Mr. HENDERSON. Why, Mr. President, if I have already failed to show it, I must fail in the future. I have shown that the suffrage was left to the States, and that they did exclude their negroes ; that they held in slavery in Virginia almost half of their population, and that Virginia was called a republican State. Indeed, she was most prominent in making the very provisions we are discussing. She excluded the slaves and Mr. SUMNER. Ah! slaves. That is an- other thing. The question is whether you are allowed to disfranchise freemen on account of color, whether you are allowed to deny them their rights as citizens. That I utterly deny. The exception was with regard to slaves who were not regarded as members of the body-pol- itic. They were in that respect treated as mi- nors or as women, represented by their masters ; but every freeman, no matter what his color was, was recognized as entitled to all the priv- ileges of citizenship. He was one of the sovereigns. The proposition cannot be met, if my friend will consult the history of his country. Mr. HENDERSON. It was not slaves only that were disfranchised, but I have shown that free negroes were also disfranchised. But I have no controversy with the Senator in what we mutually aim at. Mr. SUMNER. I know that, and I concede to my excellent friend, of course, all that I claim for myself. We are in search of the best that can be done on this occasion. I applaud his zeal and thank him for his courtesy. Mr. HENDERSON. I am certainly very much obliged to the Senator from Massachu- setts. I feel now ten times better than I did before. [Laughter.] I cannot longer detain the Senate in pre- senting objections to the exercise of legislative power under the guarantee clause. It is suffi- cient to control my own action, that I believe by the letter, and even spirit of the Constitution, the suffrage was placed exclusively under the control of State action. I think that the error of so placing it is as clear as the error made in tolerating slavery. To rid ourselves of the evil, however, we must amend the Constitution. Mr. SUMNER. Do I understand my friend to say that a State might adopt a rule, for in- stance, founded on the color of the hair, so that all men with light hair should be excluded from the right of suffrage ? I insist that a State is not, under the Constitution of the United States, authorized to make any exclusion on account of color. Mr. HENDERSON. It ought not to be, you mean. Mr. SUMNER. No ; it cannot be. Color cannot be a qualification. There may be a quali- fication founded on age or residence or knowl- edge or crime. Mr. HENDERSON. You are now coming in conflict with the committee of fifteen, who declare by their resolution that the States now have the power, and may yet exclude everybody of a particular race or color. Mr. SUMNER. I understand that the com- mittee propose to place that in the Constitution of the United States, and that is one reason why I object to their report. I say that they pro- pose to do what our fathers never did. Mr. HENDERSON. The Senator from Mas- sachusetts is in theory perhaps correct. He is speaking, however, of an ideal constitution. The true republican principle requires that as large a portion of the people, as is consistent with the public good, shall be permitted to vote. 38 crimination between tlie races in political rights and privileges. This would give the ballot and an equal right to hold ofSce. The position of the Senator is au advanced one, and merits approbation. He prefers for himself, I take it, the simplified proposition I offer, to the com- mittee's measure, wliich is duplex and evasive. Mr. FESSENDEN. I would have the Sen- ator not misapprehend me. He speaks as if I disapproved uf the action of the committee. Mr. HEXUERSON. That is an inference of mine from the course of the Senator's speech to which I listened with pleasure. Mr. FESSENDEN. I do not disapprove it in any shape or form. ^A'hile 1 took the liberty to state what I preferred if it could be had, I did not undertake to say that under the circum- stances it would be wise to do it. Mr. HENDERSON. I understand the Sen- ator. Ele admits the correctness of my views, but thinks them inexpedient. Mr. FESSENDEN. I spoke of my own par- ticular views in relation to that matter ; but a man cannot always press his views against what may be his sense of propriety or i^rospect of suc- cess. A legislator must legislate for something that he can accomplish. Mr. HENDERSON. When I remarked that "the Senator admits the correctness of my views,'" I regarded his views, as expressed in the proviso I have read, and my own views, as almost identical. At least they are substan- tially so. And I cannot be mistaken that the distinguished Senator's speech clearly indi- cated a preference by him for a plain, positive statement that the suffrage should be granted, over one permitting the States to exclude whole races of men in defiance of every principle of republican theory. Mr. KlRlvWOOD. Will the Senator from Missouri allow me to ask him a question? I want to understand him if I can. Do I under- stand him to say that Congress by this amend- ment confers on the States a power that they do not now have? Mr. HENDERSON. Certainly not. I did not say so. Mr. KIRKWOOD. I understood him to argue as if it was so. Mr. HENDERSON. I see what the Sena- tor is aiming at, I think. He intrenches him- self behind the provisions of the present Con- stitution when he needs its shelter. It is good when it answers the purpose of his argument, but bad when it does not. He asks me if the States cannot now exclude the negro from the ballot. I answer, yes. But I thought we were amending the Constitution. Iowa refuses ne- gro suffrage, and can do so after this commit- tee amendment shall have been adopted with- out losing a member in Congress. No southern State can do so. The Senator seems more anxious to destroy the political power of cer- tain States than to do justice to an oppressed race. It is true, under the Constitution as it now is, the States may exclude the negro from eufixaige, but they may exclude him without loss of political power in Congress. He is willing to let the States continue to exclude the negro because, forsooth, it is the present Constitution. If so, why not stand by the Constitution throughout, and still let them retain their representation? If the existing Constitution is good against my argument, it is good against his. Mr. KIRKWOOD. That is not the question. _ Mr. HENDERSON. But that is the ques tion. Mr. KIRKWOOD. Not according to myj' view. I understand the Senator to argue thai ' we are about conferring on these States a priv ilege they have not had before. I do not sc regard it. If the Senator argues that under the Constitution there is no such power now, but that we are granting them a power, he is correct; but if they have that power, we are simply not interfering with that provision of the Constitution. That is all. Mr. HENDERSON. I appreciate the Sen- ator's position, and am glad to have his views, but I wish to confine myself to the neighbor- hood, at least, of my subject. So soon as the rebellion had been put down by military force, means ought to have been taken to remove forever the causes that pro- voked it. The South made the issue boldly in the Montgomery confederation. It was not slavery especially that induced the separation. Slavery was but the incident. It was the infe- riority of the black man and his unfitness for political association with the white man that constituted the corner-stone of the confederate fabric. When the fabric was torn down and scattered to the winds, the false political teach- ings, that entered into its construction, were abandoned by the builders. The South not only recognized the destruction of slavery on the downfall of the rebellion, but they were ready to abandon all the dogmas upon which slavery was founded. Slavery of white men, equals, was not justified by any portion of our people. It could only be justified as a guard- ianshljj or patriarchal government over an . inferior race. If the inferiority were admitted, slavery had its defense in some sort of reason. But the experiences of the war attacked and destroyed this defense, long known to the South itself to be utterly untenable. Hence, on sub- mitting to the national authority, they equally yielded to the logic of events on the negro ques- tion. They were ready to give up, in practice anyhow, the idea of the negro's inferiority. Mr. Calhoun, and other prominent men In the South, always held that If the negro were made free it was tantamount to a declaration of his equality, and his enfranchisement must follow. If President Johnson had said in his procla- mation of amnesty, "Whereas the people of the seceded States organized a rebellion and fought for four years against the Govei'ument of the United States in an unholy attempt to perpetuate the slavery of an entire race, on the false ground of the inferiority of that race ; and whereas their rebellion has been overthrown, 39 now I, Andrew Johnson, desiring to see slavery and its attendant evils removed, and that jus- tice be established throughout the land, North and South, do proclaim that all persons taking part in said rebellion shall be pardoned upon the express condition that slavery and all its pretensions shall be abolished, ' and that all distinctions of race and color in civil and polit- ical rights shall henceforth cease," would they not have accepted it? Would they not have > keen glad to accept it? No doubt about it; And then this angry controversy, just beginning to mold new political organizations, would have been unknown. Mr. CONNESS. The President tells you that he is afraid that would bring about a war of races. * Mr. HENDERSON. Simple justice never made war. To show that I am not mistaken in the expectations of the country, North and South, on this subject, I refer first to the testimony of Mr. Reagan, of Texas, who was the postmaster general under the rebel government, and was one of the most active and persistent of rebel chiefs. His testimony is but the expression of a then fixed public sentiment at the South. He says, in a letter addressed to the people of Texas, just after the fall of the confederacy : t "I have no doubt you can adopt a plan which will f&lly meet the demands of justice and fairness, and satisfy the northern mind and the requirements of tho Government, without endangering good govern- ment and the repose of society. This can be done by "First, extending the privileges and protection of the laws over negroes as they are over the whites, and allowing them to testify in the courts on the same conditions; leaving their testimony subject to the rules relating to its credibility ; but not objecting to its admissibility. And in this you will conform with the wise current of legislation, and the tendency of all judicial decisions in all enlightened countries. "And second, by fixing an intellectual, moral, and, if thought necessary, a property test for the admission of all persons to the exercise of the elective franchise, without reference to race or color, which would secure its intelligent exercise." In enumerating the advantages of these sug- gestions, he says : r "First. It would remove all just grounds of antag- 'i onlsm and hostility between the white and black races. Unless this is done endless strife and bitter- ness of feeling must characterize their relations, and, as all history and human experience teach us, must sooner or later result in a war of races. We now know from sad experience what war is between equals and enlightened people. But of all wars a social war of races is the most relentless and cruel, the extermination or expulsion from the country or enslavement of one or the other being the inevitable end where they are left to themselves, or the loss of liberty to both races where they are both sirioject to the control of a superior power, which would be our situation. I speak, of course, of the legal rights and status of the two races. Their social relations are matters of taste and choice, and not subject to legis- lative regulation. * "Second. This course would disarm and put an end to inter-State sectional political agitation, on this subj ect at least, which has been the special curse of our country fm- so many years, and which was the cause of the unnumbered woes wo have recently experi- enced and still suffer; by depriving the agitators of a subject on which to keep up such an agitation, and of the means of producing jealousy, animosity, and hatred between the ditierent races. And this would do much toward the renewal of the ancient rela- tions of national harmony and fraternal good will between all parts of the country." The President of the United States, who is now supposed to be so utterly opposed to negro suffrage, oven as late as October last, author- ized a publication by one Major Stearns, giving his opinion most decidedly in its favor. The President said : "My positiou here is different from what it would be if I were in Tennessee. "There I should try to introduce negro suffrage grad- ually; first, those who had served in the Army; those who could read and write, and perhaps a iiroperty qualification for others, say two hundred or two hun- dred and fifty dollars." In the early days of last October, I had a con- versation myself with tho President, in which I expressed some fears of the loyalty of the new organizations, and took occasion to suggest the hope that he would insist on some sort of modi- fied negro suffrage in those States, as a means of taking the question forever out of politics, and further, of removing, as far as possible, the false sentiments that originated and gave strength to the rebellion. The result of the conversation was that I was authorized to give publicity to his views, which I did in a speech of October 21, in my State, from which I read an extract: " Taking his stand-point that theStates are still in the Union, he does not think he can consistently in- terfere with the franchisQ in those States or in any other; that is, that he can confer it upon persons not enjoying it under the respective State constitutions, as they existed before the rebellion; but as an indi- vidual hedesiresthatthe negro shall be enfranchised and would be gratified to see the several State con- ventions extend the franchise to all persons of color who can read the Constitution of the United States in English and write their names, and also to all per- sons of color who own real estate valued at not less than S250, and who pay taxes thereon." I again repeat that these words were uttered to me by the President of the United States in the early days of October last, and now it is given out that the President is opposed to negro suffrage, not only in the States, but in the District of Columbia, where the power of Congress is not disputed. On the 10th of last October, the President addressed a regiment of negro soldiers, returning from service, in which he said : "This is your country as well as anybody else's country. This is the country in which you expect to live and in which you expect to do something by your example in civil life, as you have done in the field. This country is founded on the principle of equality." Again : "It is for you to establish the great fact that you are fit and qualified to be free." And again : "He is the most exalted that is the mos* meritori- ous, without regard to color." But it seems now the question of the negro's capacity to govern himself is not to be judged from his conduct. It is to be settled against him without trial. Merit is to be put out of the question. His inferiority is to be assumed, and the results of injustice to him, ignorance, poverty, degradation, are to be forever the quoted evidences of that inferiority. The ques- tion of human slavery entered into party poli- tics, and justice was slow. The question of human right, involved in enfranchisement, is 40 now given to party politics. Justice may be slow, but come, it must. Against this measure but three arguments are urged : 1. That it produces social equality. This objection is totally unfounded. Is each voter the equal of another? Does my friend from Wisconsin [Mr. Doolittle] regard every man, native and foreign, naturalized and unnatural- ized, who is entitled to the ballot iu that State, as his social equal ? 2. It is urged that the negro is of another and an inferior race. Admit his race to be different from ours, does he not belong to the family of man? Is he not actuated by the same motives, possessed of the same feelings, and animated by the same hopes? He may not belong to the same race, but he belongs to the family of man, and the proudest boast of our free country to-day, is, that it is the home and asylum of man. If his race be inferior in intel- lectual power, that constitutes the strongest reason for guarding his rights against the as- saults of the more vigorous and crafty. Are all men now entitled to the franchise equal in intellectual power? Are they all equal in sagacity and knowledge? Is the unlettered Irishman, shut out year after year from the light of the sun, in the coal mines of Peunsjd- vania, equally qualified to cast an intelligent vote with the distinguished members of the Federal judiciary now dispensing justice in this Capitol? But I ask. Senators, will you deny suffrage to the coal-digger? Or will you give another ballot to the eminent judge? Natural inferiority amounts to nothing. The question is, are the negroes capable of such moral training as to give them love of social order, and such intellectual training as to have them know and appreciate their rights and duties in the com- munity ? If they are incapable of such training, the States may yet deny them the franchise, after my amendment has been adopted. If the alleged inferiority prove unfounded, the wor- ship of prejudice must cease, and the image of this unjust god be broken into dust. Can the experiment do any harm? Let us try it. 3. It is said that qualified, educated, intelli- gent negro suffrage will bring a war of races. XVhy so? Are white men so unjust that rather than suffer simple justice to be done to their fellow-men, rather than see the true republican principle vindicated in government, they will imbrue their hands in the negro's blood? I believe no such thing, and if I did believe it, I could scarcely hope for the success of my fel- low white men in this war against humanity. If it be desirable to prevent a war of races, it can be done by simple justice to both races. If one race be taxed without representation, fol- lowed by the usual abuses of such power, and followed, too, by the prejudice and contempt of the ruling class, will not war of races come sooner? It must, it will come. It can be pre- vented now. Let it be done. The reasons in favor of my proposition are inseparably connected with all I have said. I need not repeat them. Every consideration of peace demands it. It must be done to remove the relics of the rebellion. It must be done to pluck out political disease from the body- politic, and restore the elementary principles of our Government. It must be done to pre- serve peace iu the States and harmony in our Federal system. It must be doue to assure the happiness and prosperity of the southern people themselves. It must be done to establish in our institutions the principles of universal justice. It must be done to.secure the strongest .possible guarantees against future wars. It must be done in obedience to that golden rule, which insists upon doing to others what we wovjld that others should do unto us. It must be done if we would obey the moral law that teaches us to love our neighbors as ourselves. In fine, it must be done to purify, strengthen, and per- petuate a Government, in which are now fondly centered, the best hopes of mankind. LIBRf 0J r 013 744 498 7 LIBRARY OF CONGRES; 013 744 498 7 penmalipe pHS.S