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My Lord : In relation to the case of (he " CaroHne," which v/e have heretofore made the subject of conference, I have thought it right to place in your hands an extract of a letter from this Department to Mr. Fox, of the 24th of April, 1841, and an extract from the message of the President of the United States to Congress at the commencement of its present session. These papers you have, no doubt, already seen ; but they are, nevertheless, now communicated, as such communication is considered a ready mode of pre- senting the view which this Government entertains of the destruction of that vessel. The act of which the Government of the United States complains is not to be considered as justifiable or unjustitiable, as the question of the lawful- ness or unlawfulness of the employment in which the " Caroline" was en- gaged may be decided the one way or the other. That act is of itself a wrong, and an offence to the sovereignty and the dignity of tfie United States, being a violation of their soil and territory — a wrong for which, to this day, no atonement, or even apology, has been made by her majesty's Govern- ment. Your lordship can not but be aware that self-respect, the conscious- ness of independence and national equality, and a sensitiveness to whatever may touch the honor of the country — a sensitiveness which this Government will ever feel and ever cultivate — make this a matter of high importance, and I must be allowed to ask for it your lordship's grave consideration. I have the honor to be, my lord, your lordship's most obedient servant, DANIEL WEBSTER. Lord ASHBURTON, (^'C, c5'c., ut that die relation of master and slave is not founded in contract, and therefore is to be respected only by the law of the place which recognises it. Whoever so reasons encounters the authority of the whole body of public law from Grotius down; because there are nu- merous instances in which the law itself presumes or implies contracts; and prominent among these instances is the very relation which we are now consid- ering and which relation is holden by law to draw after it mutuality of obliga- tion. Is not die relation between a father and his minor children acknowledged, when they go abroad? And on what contract is this founded, but a contract raised by general principles of law, from the relation of the parties? Your lordship will please to bear in mind that the proposition which I am endeavoring to support is, that by the comity of the law of nations, and the practice of modern times, merchant vessels entering open ports of other na- tions, for the piupose of trade, are presumed to be allowed to bring with, ihem, and to retain, for their protection and government, the jurisdiction and laws of their own country. All this, I repeat, is presumed to be allowed ; because the ports are open, because trade is invited, and because, under these circumstances, such pennission or allowance is according to genera! usage. It is not denied that all this may be refused ; and this suggests a distinction, the disaegard of which may perhaps account for most of the dif- ficulties arising in cases of this sort ; that is to say, the distinction between what a state may do, if it pleases, and what it is presumed to do, or not to do, in the absence of any positive declaration of its will. A state might de- clare that all foreign marriages should be regarded as null and void within its ten-itory ; that a foreign father, aniving with an infant son, should no longer have authority or control over him ; that, on the ai rival of a foreign vessel in its ports, all shipping articles and all indentures of apprenticeship between her crew and her owners or masters should cease to be binding. These, and many other things equally irrational and absurd, a sovereign state has doubtless the power to do ; but they are not to be presimied. It is not to be taken for granted, ab ante^ that it' is the will of the sovereign state thus to withdraw itself from the circle of civilized nations. It will be time enough to believe this to be its intention, when it formally announces that intention by appropriate enactments, edicts, or other declarations. In regard to slavery within the British territories, there is a well-known, and clear promulgation of the will of the sovereign authority ; that is to say , there is a well-known rule of her law. As to England herself, that law has long existed ; and recent acts of Parliament establish the same law for the colonies. The usual mode of stating the rule of English law is, that no sooner does a slave reach the shore of England than he is free. This is true ; but it means no more than that when a slave comes within the exclu- sive jurisdiction of England he ceases to be a slave, because the law of England positively and notoriously prohibits and forbids the existence of such a relation between man and man. But it does not mean that English authorities, with this rule of English law in their hands, may enter where the jurisdiction of another nation is acknowledged to exist, and there destroy rights, obligations, and interests, lawfully existing under the authority of such other nation. No such construction, and no "such effect, can be rightfully given to the British law. It is true that it is competent to the Britfsh P^'- 20 liament, by express statute provision, to declare that no foreign jurisdiction of any kind should exist in or over a vessel after its airival voluntarily in her ports. And so she might close all her ports to the ships of all nations. A state may also declare, in the absence of treaty stipulations, that foreigners shall not sue in her courts, nor travel in her territories, nor carry away funds or goods received for debts. We need not inquire what would be the con- dition of a country that should establish such laws, nor in what relation they would leave her toward tJie states of the civilized world. Her power to make such laws is unquestionable ; but, in the absence of direct and positive enactments to that effect, (he presumption is that the opposites of these things exist. While her ports are open to foreign trade, it is to be presumed that she expects foreign ships to enter tliem, bringing with them the jurisdic- tion of their own Govermnent, and the protection of its laws, to the same extent that her ships and the ships of other commercial states carry with them the jurisdiction of their respective Governments into the open porta of the world ; just as it is presumed, while the contrary is not avowed, that strangers may travel in a civilized country in a time of peace, sue in its courts, and bring away their property. A merchant vessel enters the port of a friendly state, and enjoys while (here the protection of lier own laws, and is under the jurisdiction of her own Government, not in derogation of the sovereignty of the place, but by the presumed allowance or permission of that sovereignty. This permission or allowance is founded on the comity of nations, like the other cases which have been mentioned ; and this comity is part, and a most important and valuable part, of the law of nations, to which all nations are presumed to assent until they make their dissent known. In the silence of any positive rule, affirming or denying or restraining the operation of foreign laws, their tacit adoption is presumed, to the usual extent. It is upon this ground that the courts of law expound contracts according to the law of the place in which they are made; and instances almost innumerable exist, in which, by the general practice of civilized countries, the laws of one will be recognised and often executed in another. I^his is the comity of nations ; and it is upon this, as its solid basis, that the intercourse of civilized states is maintaijied. But while that which has now been said is understood to be the voluntary and adopted law of nations, in cases of the voluntary entry of merchant ves- sels into the ports of other countries, it is nevertheless true, that vessels ia such ports, only through an overruling necessity, may place their claim for exemption from interference on still higher principles; that is to say, princi- ples held in more sacred regard by the comity, the courtesy, or indeed the common sense of justice of all civilized states. Even in regard to cases of necessity, however, there are things of an un- friendly and offensive character, which yet it may not be easy to say that a nation might not do. For example, a nation might declare her will to be, and make it the law of her dominions, that foreign vessels, cast away on her shores, should be lost to their owners, and subject to the ancient law of wreck. Or a neutral state, while shutting her ports to the armed vessels of bel- ligerants, as she has a right to do, might resolve on seizing and confiscating vessels of that description, which should be driven to take shelter in her har- bors by the violence of the storms of the ocean. But laws of this character, however within the absolute competence of Governments, could only be pass- ed, if passed at all, under willingness to meet the last responsibility to which nations are subjected. 21 The presumption is stronger, (lierefore, in regard lo vessels driven into foreign ports by necessity, and seeking only temporary refuge, than in regard to those vvliich enter them voluntarily, and for purposes of trade, that they will not be interfered with; and that, unless they comnrit, while in port, some act against the laws of the place, they will be permitted to receive sup- plies to repair damages, and to depart unmolested. If, therefore, vessels of the United States, pursuing lawful voyages, from porJ to port, along their own shore, are driven by stress of weather, or carried by unlawful force, into English ports, the Government of the United States can not consent that the local authorities in those ports shall take advantage ofsuch misfortunes, and enter them, for the purpose of interfering with the con- dition of persons or things on board, as established by their own laws. If slaves, the property of citizens of the United States, escape into the British territories, it is not expected that they will be restored. In that case, the ter- ritorial jinisdiction of England will have become exclusive over them, and must decide dieir condition. But slaves on board of American vessels, lying in British waters, are not within the exclusive jurisdiction of England; or under the exclusive operation of "English law; and this founds lire broad dis- tinction between the cases. If persons, guilty of crimes in tl^e United States, seek an asylum in the British dominions, they will not be demanded, until provision for such cases be made by treaty : because the giving-up of crimi- nals, fugitive from justice, is agreed and understood to be a matter in which every nation regulates its conduct according to its own discretion. It is no breach of comity to refuse such surrender. On the other hand, vessels of the United States, driven by necessity into British ports, and staying there no longer than such necessity exists, violating no law, nor having intent to violate any law, will claim, and there wnll be claimed for them, protection and security, freedom from molestation, and from all interference with the character or condition of persons or things on board. In the opinion of the Governmentof the United States, such vessels, so driven and so detained by necessity in a friendly port, ought to be regarded as still pursuing their original voyage, and turned out of their direct course only by disaster, or by wrongful violence; that they ought to receive all assistance necessary to enable them to resume that direct course ; and that interference and molestation by the local authorities, wheie the v/hole voyage is lawful, both in act and intent, is ground for just and grave complaint Your lordship's discernment and large experience in affairs cannot fail to suggest to you how important it is to merchants and navigators engaged in the coasting trade of a country so large in extent as the United States, that they should feel sfecure against all but the ordinary causes of maritime loss. The possessions of the two Governments closely approach each other. This proximity which ought to make us friends and good neighbors, may, with- out proper care and regulation, itself prove a ceaseless cause of vexation, irritation, and disquiet. If your lordship has no authority to enter into a stipulation by treaty for the prevention of such occurrences hereafter as have already happened, oc- currences so likely to disturb that peace between the two countries which it is the object of your lordship's mission to establish and confirm, you may still be so far acquainted with the sentiments of your Government as to be able to engage that instructions shall be given to the local authorities in the islands, which shall lead them to regulate their conduct in conformity with the rights of citizens of the United States, and the just expectations of their 22 Government, and in such manner as shall, in future, take away all reasonable ground of complaint. It would be with tiie most profound regret that the President should see that, while it is now hoped so many other subjects of difference may be harmoniously adjusted, nothing should be done in regard to this dangerous source of future collisions. I avail myself of this occasion to renew to your lordship the assurances of my distinguished consideration. DAINIeL WEBSTER. Jjord AsHBURTOisr, 4*c., t^'c, Sfc. Lord Ashburtoii to Mr. Webster. Washington', August 6, 1842. Sir: You may be well assured that I am, duly sensible of the great im- portance of the subject to which you call my attention in the note which you did me the honor of addressing me the 1st instant, in which you inform me that the President had been pleased to express his regret that I was not em- powered by my Government to enter into a formal stipulation for the better security of vessels of the United States, when meeting with disasters in pas- sing between the United States and the Bahama islands, and driven by such disasters into British ports. It is, I believe, unnecessary that I should tell you that the case of the Creole was known in London a few days only before my departure. No complaint had at that time been made by Mr. Everett. The subject was not, therefore, among those which it was the immediate object of my mission to discuss. But at the same time I must admit that, from the moment I was acquainted with the facts of this case, I was sensible of all its importance, and I should not think myself without power to consider of some adjustment of, and remed}' for, a great, acknowledged difficulty, if I could see my way clearly to any satisfactory course, and if I had not arrived at the conclusion, after very anxious consideration, that, for the reasojis which I will siute, this ([uestion had better be treated in London, where it will have a much increas- ed chance of settlement, on terms likely to satisfy the interests of the United States. The immediate case of the Creole would be easily disposed of; but in- volves a class and description of cases which, for the purpose of affording that security you seek for the trade of America through the Bahama channel, brings into consideration questions of law, both national and international, of the highest importance ; and, to increase (he delicacy and difficulty of the subject, public feeling is sensitively alive to everything connected with it. These circumstances bring me to the conviction that, although I really be- lieve that much may be done to meet the wishes of your Government, the means of doing so would be best considered in London, where immediate reference may be had to the highest authorities, on every point of delicacy and difficulty that may arise. Whatever I might attempt would be more or less under the disadvantage of being fettered by apprehensions of responsibil- ity, and I might thereby be kept within limits which my Government at lionie might disregard. In other words, I believe you would have a better 23 ehance iu this settlement with tlietn than with me. I state this after soma imperfect endeavors, by correspondence, to come at satisfactory explanations. If I were in tliis instance treatin of agricuhure, entering for the first time on shipboard, have been . essed before they made the land, placed on the declcs of British men-of-war, and compelled to serve for years before they could obtain their release, or revisit their country and their homes. Such instances become known, and their effect in discouraging young men from engaging in the merchant service of their country can neither be doubted nor wondered at. More than all, my lord, the practice of impressment, whenever it has existed, has produced not conciliation and good feeling, but resentment, exasperation, and animosity, between the two great commercial countries of the world. In the calm and quiet which have succeeded the late war — a condition BO favorable for dispassionate consideration — England herself has evidently seen the harshness of impressment, even when exercised on seamen in her own merchant service, and she has adopted measures calculated, if not to re- nounce the power or to abolish the practice, yet, at least, to supersede its ne- cessity by other means of manning the royal navy, more compatible with justice and the rights of individuals, and far more conformable to the spirit and sentiments of the age. Under these circumstances, the Government of the United States has used the occasion of your lordship's pacific mission to review this whole subject, and to bring it to your notice and that of your Government. It has reflected on the past, pondered the condition of the present, and endeavored to anti- cipate, so far as might be in its power, the probable future ; and I am now to communicate to your lordship the result of these deliberations. The American Government, then, is prepared to say that the practice of impressing seamen from American vessels can not hereafter be allowed to take place. That practice is founded on principles which it does not recog- nise, and is invariably attended by consequences so unjust, so injurious, and of such formidable magnitude, as can not be submitted to. In the early disputes between the two Governments on this so long-con- tested topic, the distinguished person to whose hands were first intrusted the seals of this Department declared, that " the simplest rule will be, that the vessel being American shall be evidence that the seamen on board are such." Fifty years' experience, the utter failure of many negotiations, and a careful reconsideration now had, of the whole subject at a moment when the passions are laid, and no present interest or emergency exists to bias the judgment, have fully convinced this Government that this is not only the simplest and best, but the only rule, which can be adopted and observed, consistently with the rights and honor of the United States and the security of their citizens. That rule announces therefore, what will hereafter be the principle maintained by their Government. In every regulaily documented American merchant vessel the crew who navigate it will find their protection in the flag which is over them. This announcement is not made, my lord, to revive useless recollections of the past, nor to stir the embers ixom fires which have been, in a great de- gree, smothered by many years of peace. Far otherwise. Its purpose is to extinguish those fires effectually, before new incidents arise to fan them into flame. The communication is in the spirit of peace, and for the sake of peace, and springs from a deep and conscientious conviction that high inter- ests of both nations require that this so-long-contested and controverted sub- eci should now be finally put to rest. I persuade myself, my lord, that you 31 ■will do justice to this frank and sincere avowal of motive communicate your sentiments, in this respect, to your Gov This letter closes, ray lord, on my part, our ofticial cori / and I gladly use the occasion to offer you the assurance of my higw sincere regard. Lord ASHEURTON', <:5*C-5 ^'C-, <^'c. DANIEL WEBSTER. t Lord Ashburton to Mr. Webster. Washington, August 9, 1842. Sir ; The note you did me the honor of addressing me the 8th instant, on the subject of impressment, shall be transmitted without delay to my Gov- ernment, and will, you may be assured, receive from them the deliberate at- tention which its importance deserves. The object of my mission was mainly tlie settlement of existing subjects of difference, and no diflerences have or could have arisen of late years with re- flpect to impressment, because the practice has since the peace wholly ceased and can not, consistently with existing laws and regulations for manning her majesty's navy, be, under the present circumstances, renewed. Desirous, however, of looking far forward into futurity to anticipate even possible causes of disagreement, and sensible of tlie anxiety of the American people on this grave subject of past irritation, I should be sorry in any way to discourage the attempt at some settlement of it; and, although without authority to enter upon it here during the limited continuance of my mission, J entertain a confident hope that this task may be accomplished, when un- dertaken, with the spirit of candor and conciliation which has marked all our late negotiations. It not being our intention to endeavor now to come to any agreement on this subject, I may be permitted to abstain from noticing, at length, your very ingenious arguments relating to it, and from discussing the graver mat- ters of constitutional and international law growing out of them. These enfficiently show that the question is one requiring calm consideration ; though I must, at the same lime, admit that they prove a strong necessity of some settlement for the preservation of that good understanding which, I trust, we may flatter ourselves that our joint labors have now succeeded in establishing. I am well aware that the laws of our two countries maintain opposite prin- ciples respecting allegiance to the sovereign. America, receiving every year, by thousands, the emigrants of Europe, maintains the doctrine suitable to her condition of the right of transferring allegiance at will. The laws of Great Britain have maintained, from all time, the opposite doctrine. The duties of allegiance are held to be indefeasible, and it is believed that this doctrine, under various modifications, prevails in most, if not in all, the civilized states of Europe. Emigration, the modern mode by which the population of the world peace- ably finds its level, is for the benefit of all, and eminently for the benefit of humanity. The fertile deserts of America are gradually advancing to the highest state of cultivation and production, while the emigrant acquires com- fort which his own confined home could not afford him. (lything in our la\v3 or our practice on either side tending to fch of providential humanitj^^ we could not be too eager to pro\ ..^ ay ; but as this does not appear to be the case, we may safely leave • part of (he subject without indulging in abstract speculations, hav- ing no material practical application to matters in discussion between us. But it must be admitted that a serious practical question does arise, or rather has existed, from practices formerly attending the mode of manning the British navy in times of war. The principle is, that all subjects of the crown are in case of necessity bound to serve their country, and the sea-faring man is naturally taken for the navail service. This is not, as is sometimes sup- posed, any arbitrary principle of monarchical government, but one founded on the natural duty of every man to defend the life of his country; and all the analogy of your laws would lead to the conclusion that the same princi- ple would hold good in the United States if their geographical position did not make its application unnecessary. The very anomalous condition of the two countries with relation to each other here creates a serious dithculty. Our people are not distinguishable; and owing to the peculiar habits of sailors, our vessels are very generally manned from a common stock. It is difficult, under these circumstances, to execute laws which at times have been thought to be essential for the exist- ence of the country, without risk of injury to others. The extent and im- portance of those injuries, however, are so formidable that it is admitted that some remedy should, if possible, be applied ; at all events, it must be fairly and honestly attempted. It is true that during tfie continuance of peace no practical grievance can arise ; but it is also true that it is for that reason the proper season for the calm and deliberate consideration of an important sub- ject. I have much reason to hope that a satisfactory arrangement respecting it may be made, so as to set at rest all apprehension and anxiety ; and I will only further repeat the assurance of the sincere disposition of my Govern- ment favorably to consider all matters having for their object the promoting and maintaining undisturbed kind and friendly feelings with the United States. I beg, sir, on this occasion of closing the correspondence with you con- nected with my mission, to express the satisfaction I feel at its successful ter- mination, and to assure you of my high consideration and personal esteem and regard. ASHBURTON. Hon. Daniel Webster, 1 ^o fe' ^° 4^ '■.■'" ' _ \ ^- o / ■* -> -> *> ,^* 0^ . . . - ,0 .*f ^%;jc ^ ->?i/^%v^- ^^ -^ « o ^ ^ .^^ A. <. o " o ^ ^ '•^ 0^ x^-n^ ^. ■tUC^ -^ , ' ^^--^ .^' ■Nvirir^^ V V .f 0- ^ \^^.^^2>^^^ ^b^* '*^c /(N^r.^:':. ^ ,^ V ' % c"^ "r"^" ■J-' ^^ -0^ t-A^,*, 9. -^ . .vr"K?; 4 O ,\ ^ <% ■^ I ^p^^-. iV ... ^ >°'-*-. -: o'^ >. '■ '^^ % ! 7 .r 5^''"^ ^?^>^^^1' -^ %> •^ ■ 'i.^ " " " * *^>j "O V" ,4q -^^ ^- .:^%^,:,^_ t<. ^ V J. ^•^^M-'^c ^ ^^ o.^ %'^^^^ii^. ^0 ^ *o. ,(\\ .■ 4> <<5v^ ^. '■*~M)'-'»'c .V > -^^^^ '.,,- ^^^ ■a? 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