f No. 3. REPLY TO A i T HE I IFt ID LETTER OF THE II REV. THE LORD BISHOP OF MONTREAL And Metropolitan of Canada, ADDRESSED TO THE [^Bishops and Clergy of the United Church of England and Ireland in Canada, BY I. HELLMUTH, D.IX, AKCHDKACON OF HURON, AND ASST. MINISTER OP ST. PAUL’S CATHRDRAI., LONDON, C. W . TO WHICH IS APPENDED “ THE THIRD LETTER” OF THE LORD BISHOP OF MONTREAL.. QUEBEC: PRINTED BY MIDDLETON AND DAWSON, SHAWLS BUILDINGS, LOWER TOWN. 1862 . No. 3. REPLY TO A T H I !R 3D HL-IETTEZR i OF THE RIGHT REV. THE LORD BISHOP OF MONTREAL, And Metropolitan of Canada, ADDRESSED TO THE Bishops and Clergy of the United Church of England and Ireland in Canada, BY I. HELLMUTH, D.D., ARCHDEACON OF HURON, AND ASST. MINISTER OF ST. PAUL’S CATHEDRAL, LONDON, C. W., TO WHICH IS APPENDED “ THE THIRD LETTER” OP THE LORD BISHOP OP MONTREAL. QUEBEC: PRINTED BY MIDDLETON AND DAWSON, SHAW’S BUILDINGS, LOWEP. TOWN. 1862. A T H l R I) REPLY Quebec, Aug. 9, 1862. My Lord Bishop,— Although I have by incontestable proofs, nay, even by Your Lordships own unwitting admissions, cleared my character as a Christian and a Minister of the Gospel, from every charge and insinuation with which, from your exal¬ ted position as Metropolitan, you might fain have obscured it, you seem to be determined not to let the subject rest where it had been successfully and triumphantly placed on the issues of my “ replies.” For a third time you have recurred to the same attack. But I am confident that for a third time I can satisfactorily dispose of all that is contained in Your Lordship’s third Pastoral. I shall on this occasion, as before, append your Pastoral to my answer, that the public, to which you have appealed, may be fully and fairly furnished with the controversy as it stands, and pronounce their verdict accordingly. In my inmost heart, I deplore this controversy, but the onus rests upon Your Lordship, whose efforts to defame my fair name, and that of my respected father-in-law, Gen. Evans, both in private and in public, by all the means and influence in your power, and at all hazards, demanded our vindication.— And it will be easily conceived that it is not a little difficult to write calmly under such painful and aggravated circumstances, into which I am again forced in self-defence to enter by your Lordship’s continued attacks. “ As yet your Lordship has not even attempted to disprove the correctness of my remarks at the Islington meeting respecting (1) “ the teaching of Trinity College , Toronto ,” [which is the only institution I referred to in my tpeech,] and (2) “ the paucity of Evangelical men in the British North American Colonies generally .” 4 Your Lordship, in your third letter, on page 8, admits that you understand the sense attached by me to the word “ Evangelical and that such li Evan¬ gelical men” are few in number in Canada, I have your Lordship s own au¬ thority, as I have conclusively shown in my No. II. Reply, pages 6 and 7, in the following words :— But, My Lord, have you not said more as to the paucity of ‘‘ Evangelical men” in Canada, than I have ever ventured to say ? As examples of en¬ couragement held out to Evangelical men” in Canada, your Lordship has specified places in the Province, saying : “ Evangelical meD, as such, may not be as abundant as the Archdeacon wishes, yet he will allow they are to be fourd in many most important places. The Cathedral at Toronto and all the churches at Kingston have long been so filled, that at London, three in Mon¬ treal, one in Quebec, one in Hamilton, all principal cities in the Province.” “ You assign thus to the most populous protestant city in Canada, viz; To¬ ronto, where there are 23 clergymen, 3 Evangelical men,—all on the Cathe¬ dral staff; to the city of Montreal, where there are 12 or 13 clergymen, you as sign three ; to the city of Quebec, where there are 12 Clergymen, your Lordship assigns one , aiti ) Ireland FRANCIS FULFORD, D. D., LORD BISHOP OP MONTREAL AND METROPOLITAN. iltontreal; PRINTED BY JOHN LOVELL, ST. NICHOLAS STREET. 1862 . A THIRD LETTER, See IIocss, Montreal, 15th July, 1862. Right Ret. and Rev. Brethren, Absence Irom borne, and some delay in the receipt of letters has caused me to be later, than I ought to have been in noticing some o’f £ taementsrn a second letter recently published by Archdeacon Hell- muth , while it has g.ven time to him and his friends in various ways to faring r nCe ‘° indig “ ati0n and COffl P l8int8 gainst me for ven turmg to impugn the reliability of his testimony. I think, however tha n u,r r rr n is caimiy “ to that unprejudiced minds will come to the conclusion that it was no without some reason! expressed myself, as I did, in my first ietter to Looking at the report of his speech at Islington, which he acknow e ged to be substantially correct, and which he allowed to go forth .thou correction or explanation, there can be no question that it was “tied" 1 ayinteDt was understood and commented upon by « The Record" English newspaper witl ATT ° ‘ he ArChdeaC0Q ’ 8 P lans ' an«■ p,„. s J "° u d LOnfilm tb,f, > and at any rate it is wbat he has stated before myself and others more than once. “ If Mr - ~ can tell you the answer that Dr. Hellmuth sent on hearing of your Lordship’s question, it might serve to confirm the truth “ Again hoping you will pardon the liberty I have taken, (i I remain, my Lord, 14 Yours faithfully, John R. Cartwright.** I accordingly wrote to the Rev. Mr.-, who sent me the following answer:— & Kingston, 8th July, 1862. “ Mr Lord Bishop,-Y our letter dated July 1st, only reached me last night. I cannot express to you my feelings. I did not answer your etter simply because I did not wish to injure Dr. Hellmuth. I therefore sent your letter to Quebec, that Dr. Hellmuth might answer the ques- ioii, an give your Lordship the necessary information, never think¬ ing that your Lordship's letter to me would be published. and 1 CaD n ° W ° Dly a<1<1 that y ° Ur considered the whole matter, I became convinced that whatever might be the prerogative of the Queen to appoint a Metropolitan, (which has since been acknowledged by the Synod, and by the opinion of the Law Officers of the Crown, which has been given more recently,) yet that it "as open to grave doubts, whether the powers conferred, no matter what they were, could be legally exercised, except by the authority of >e Provincial Synod ; and I at once decided to retain the draft and propose that a Committee of the Synod should be appointed to inquire mto the bearings of the Synod Acts, and the Patents of the several Bishops, and exercised their jurisdiction, according to the Canons passed by their Provincial Synods; the only restriction being, that the Provincial Synod could pass no Canon in opposition to the General “ Canons of th e Church Universal, or the Imperial laws. “ With these observations I now beg to return the draft of the proposed new Patent, and also a Memorial to Her Majesty from the Provincial “ Synod, praying that the additions recommended by the Synod may “ be ordered to be inserted in the new Patent, which it is proposed to “ issue.” On my reviewing my conduct in this matter, I am not aware that I could have adopted any course more honorable and fair to all concerned, or more advisable for the good of the Church. It is very easy to make accusations of tyranny and oppression, and to insinuate that I am seeking to exercise an oppressive authority, and this may be re¬ peated again and again by anonymous writers in newspapers. Such attacks will never trouble me at all. I appeal to all my conduct whe¬ ther as Bishop or Metropolitan, and ask for any proof of such a charge, from any known and credible witness. IJren with respect to this very controversy, I have merely appealed on a subject which deeply interests the whole Church, to the judgment of the Church at large, where the Archdeacon can meet me on the same ground. It has been stated that I ought rather to have cited him before me as Metropolitan, if I had any charge against him. In the first place, I have no court yet constituted : nor do I see how it would have been possible to have reduced this matter to such an issue, as would have brought it under the cognizance of such a court. And had I done so, I think such a course would then have been more loudly condemned as tyrannical, and that I was taking advantage of my official position. I considered it a question that could only be brought to the bar of public opinion of the Canadian Church, and there I must leave it; and I think it will not have been mooted in vain. One word more and I have done. My Patent has been returned with the alterations made, exactly as we prayed ; and we are to meet shortly to carry out the powers now entrusted to us. We have our Ecclesias- tical organization now complete, aud our means of church government within ourselves ; and I hope we shall be, under the guidance of God’s Spirit, enabled to carry through such measures as may be necessary, with the general consent and approval ot ail. I should be very sorry that any of our Dioceses had any just reason to apprehend that its own legal rights would uot. be respected ; but it must be evident that it would be placing itself altogether in a false position, to seek a separation from tne rest of the Canadian Church. I remain, Ever your faithful Brother in Christ, F. MONTREAL. %nw