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SUNDRY CIVIL BILL, 1916
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HEARINGS
BEFORE
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suBCOMMITTEE OF HOUSE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS
CONSISTING OF
MEssRs. JOHN J. FITZGERALD (CHAIRMAN), SWAGAR SHERLEY,
GEORGE W. RAUCH, FREDERICK H. GILLETT,
AND FRANK W. MONDELL
IN CHARGE OF
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1916
SIXTY-THIRD CONGRESS
THIRD SESSION
WASHINGTON
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
1915
G! FT OF
JUDGE L. C. CRASITON .
NOW 9 1937
// Vºº.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
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HEARINGS CONDUCTED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, MESSRS. J. J.
FITZGERALD (CHAIRMAN), SWAGAR SHERLEY, GEORGE W.
RAUCH, FREDERICK H. GILLETT, AND FRANK W. MONDELL, OF
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, HOUSE OF REPRESENT-
ATIVES, IN CHARGE OF THE SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION
BILL FOR 1916, ON THE DAYS FOLLOWING, NAMELY:
PUBLIC BUILDINGs.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
- Washington, December 19, 1914.
SIR: In response to the request of your committee I transmit here-
with statements relative to the condition of appropriations for pub-
lic buildings under the control of the Treasury Department, showing,
under separate headings, the buildings in course of construction
December 1, 1914, and also the buildings authorized but not in course
of construction on the same date, the information given being
grouped under descriptive captions. -
The customary information with reference to the estimates for
public buildings, as related to the fiscal year ending June 30, 1916,
explanatory of the necessity for the respective items, has already been
furnished your committee.
It is requested that 12 copies of these statements as printed may
be supplied for the use of the Office of the Supervising Architect of
the Treasury.
Respectfully,
W. G. McADoo,
Secretary.
Hon. JoHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
- House of Representatives.
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4. SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON

& Buildin classo work. Limit of cost ºleº
Location. Ul gS. asso work. imit. Of COSt. appropriated. §.#.i.
Abbeville. S. C. . . . . . Post office......... Site and building...] $50,000.00 $50,000.00 $6,000.00
Abilene, Kans-------|----. do------------- uilding---------- 70,000.00 70,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Alameda, Cal. ... ---|----. do------------- Site and building... 120,000.00 120,000. 00 14,000. 00
Albany, Ga. . . . . . . . . Post office and ||..... do..... . . . . . . . . 125,000.00 | 125,000.00 12,522. 27
courthouse.
Albany, Oreg. . . . . . . Post office.........!----. do------------- 75,000.00 65,000. 00 10,000.00
Alpena, Mich.....--|----. do-------------|----. do------------- 100,000. 00 100,000.00 10,026.21
Amarillo, Tex....... Post Office and . . . . . do------------- 200,000.00 67,000.00 1.00
courthouse.
Americus, Ga....... Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- 75,000.00 75,000.00 14,974. 43
Ames, Iowa. --------|----. do-------------|----- do------------- 60,000.00 60,000. 00 10,000. 00
Ansonia, Conn. ... --|----. do-------------|----- do------------- 90,000.00 90,000.00 25,000. 00
Appleton, Wis......|--... do------------- Building-...: ::---- 69,968. 20 69,968. 20 |... . . . . . . . . . . . .
Arkansas City, Kans.|..... do...... ... s e s = * * * Site and building.. 75,000. 00 40,000. 00 12,500. 00
Asbury Park, N. J..|... . . do-----------------. do------------- 133,000.00 133,000.00 30,000.00
Athol, Mass...... ---|----. do-------------|----- do------------- 65,000.00. 65,000. 00 13,000.00
Atlanta, Ga--------. Post office and Building. . . . . . . . . . 1,022,500.00 | 1,022,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
Auburn, N. Y..'.....|- . . . . do------------- Extension... . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Augusta, Ga. . . . . . . . Post office and | Building . . . . . . . . . . 325,000.00 275,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
C O u r t h O us e
(new). -
Austin, Tex... . . . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 210,000.00 210,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . -
Bainbridge, Ga. . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . ---|----- do. . . . . .------ 50,000.00 35,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Baker City, Oreg. . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . .--|----. do. . . . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 |... - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bangor, Me... ------|----. do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building...| 440,000.00 400,000.00 115,000.00
Bardstown, Ky.....|..... do. . . . . .------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bath, Me..... -----. Post office and | Extension. . . . . . . . 55,000.00 55,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
customhouse. *
Beatrice, Nebr. . . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bedford, Ind........}..... do. . . . .------- Building . . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bedford, Pa.. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building . 80,000.00 30,000.00 12,000.00
Bedford City, Va.-..|- . . . . do.......... --| Building. --------- 45,000.00 45,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . - - - -
Bellaire, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 95,000.00 95,000.00 28,550.00
Bellefontaine, Ohio. . . . . . . do. ----------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 70,000.00 70,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bellingham, Wash... Post office and ||..... do. . . . . .------ 320,000.00 320,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
Beloit, Kans. . . . . . . . Post Office. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . .----- 58,000.00 58,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
JBely idere, Ill........|- - - - - do. . . . . .------ Site and building.. 73,000.00 73,000.00 13,017.81
Bennetts , ille, S. C. . . . . . . do------------|----. do. . . . . . . . . --- 50,000.00 50,000.00 10,000.00
Bennington, Vt.....|..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Berkeley, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building. - 180,000.00 160,000.00 30,000.00
Biddeford, Me......]. . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Big Rapids, Mich...|. . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 70,000.00 70,000.00 8,500.00
Billings, Mont......|- - - - - do. . . . . . . . - - - - 1 - - - - - do. . . . . . .----- 125,000.00 125,000.00 9,000.00
Bismarch, N. Dak ... Post office and . . . . . do.... -------- 150,000.00 150,000.00 10,500.00
courthouse.
Bloomington, Ind... Post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . ------- !. 81,000.00 81,000.00 15,392.53
Bluefield, W. Va.... Post office and | Building.... . . . . . . 120,000.00 120,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
Blue Island, Ill...... Post Office. . . . . . . . Site and building.. 70,000.00 70,000.00 14,000.00
Bonham, Tex... . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . .----------. do. . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
Boonville, Mo.......|..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
Boston, Mass....... Customhouse... . . . Tºxtension. . . . . . . . 2,070,324.60 2,070,324.60 |... . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bowling Green, Ky. Post office and | Site and building...] : 145,000.00 145,000.00 10,023.30
courthouse. -
Bowling Green, Ohio Post office. . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Braddock, Pa... . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building...] 125,000.00 | 125,000.00 37,500.00
Bradford, Pa........]..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building... . . . . . . . 70,000.00 70,000.00 }..............
Brainerd, Minn.....|..... do. . . . . . . - * * * * * * * * * * * do. . . . . ------- 45,000.00 45,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Brazil, Ind..........|..... do. . . . . .------ Site and building.. 77,000.00 77,000.00 12,600.00
Brigham City, Utah |. . . . . do. . . . .-------|----- do. . . . . ------- 55,000.00 55,000.00 . 1.00 ||
Bristol, Conn........]. . . . . do. . . . . .------|----- do. . . . . ------- 90,000.00 90,000.00 27,850.00
Bristol, Pa.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . .------|----- do. . . . . ------- 75,000.00 75,000.00 8,000.00
Bristol, R. I.........| Post Office and Extension... . . . . . . 20,000.00 20,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
customhouse.
Bristol, Tenn....... ... Post, oſſice and | . . . . . do. . . . . ------- 40,000.00 40,000.00 |. -------------
courthouse.
Brookfield, Mo....... Post office......... Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Brookhaven, Miss... . . . . . do. . . . . .------ Site and luilding.. 65,000.00 65,000.00 8,000.00
Brookings, S. Dak. --|- . . . . do..... -------| Building.......... 75,000.00 75,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Brownwood,Tex...|..... do. . . . . . . .----|----- do.... ::::---- 70,000.00 70,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Burlington, N. J.....]..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and Luilding.. 55,000.00 55,000.00 14, 161.63
Butler, Pa...: -------|----- do. . . . . .------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Cadillaſ, Miº h.:-----|-.... do. . . . . .------ Site and building... 105,000.00 62,000.00 22,000.00
Čambridge, ohio...]..... do. . . . . -------|----- do..... ------- 85,000.00 85,000.00 | 18,000.00
Camden, Me........|..... do. . . . . .------ Building.......... 75,000.00 75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Qamden, S.C. ::-----|----. do. . . . . .------ Site and building. . 50,000.00 43,500.00 12,150.00
Canandaigua, N.Y..]..... do. . . . . . . . . . . .]----- do ............ 82,500.00 82,500.00 13,039.62
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 5
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
TRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.
Amount & Total ~~ * Amount , -
expended for º expended and ſº to be ap- Deficiency. Date of act.
buildings. & outstanding. e propriated.
$43,547.58 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $49,547.58 $452.42 ----------------------------- May 30, 1908
55,320. 55 $8,325.25 63,645.80 6,354.20 --------------|---...--------- June 25, 1910
103,787.55 16.25 117,803.80 2, 196.20 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
103,204.80 27, 20 115,754.27 9,245.73 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
39,854. 55 19,435.05 69,289.60 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . $10,000.00 $4,289.60 | May 30, 1908
82,682.95 5,325.00 98,034. 16 1,965.84 |--------------|--------------. June 30, 1906
50.00 187,895.00 187,946.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 133,000.00 120,946.00 June 25, 1910
59,493.49 373.51 74,841. 43 158.57 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
49,457.93 205. 00 59,662.93 337.07 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
52,727.25 7,601.99 85,329.24 4,670.76 l--------------|--------------- DO.
68,658.21 781.00 69, 439.21 528.99 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do. '
100.00 59,313.00 71,913.00 | . . . . . . . . . . .... • * ~ * 35,000.00 31,913.00 June 25, 1910
102,122.20 |............... 132, 122.20 877.80 --------------|----------- .... May 30, 1908
51,018.07 400.00 64,418.07 581.93 --------------|--------------- Do.
1,011,577.54 10,810.25 | 1,022,387.79 112.21 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
41,034.05 5, 189.36 46,223.41 3,776.59 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
16,507.92 289,252.00 305,759.92 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 30,759.92 DO.
182,009.06 287. 40 182,296.46 27,703.54 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
15,766.93 32,339.80 48, 106.73 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000.00 13, 106.73 Do.
64,082.55 913. 00 64,995. 55 4.45 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
164,577.06 139,150.05 418,727. 11 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 40,000.00 18, 727. 11 Aug. 19, 1911
19,364.73 38,560. 70 57,925.43 2,074.57 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
50,626. 56 . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - 50,626. 56 4,373.44 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
49, 104.75 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49, 104.75 895. 25 --------------|--------------- Do.
53, 170.53 400.00 53,570.53 11,429.47 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
1, 124.00 56,737. 18 69,861. 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 39,861. 18 June 25, 1910
16,281.39 | 28,576,94 44,858.33 141.67 --------------|--------------- Do. -
25,603.51 38,542.67 92,696.18 2,308.82 --------------|--------------- Do. '
67,681. 57 1,272.00 68,953.57 1,046.43 |--------------|--------------- DO.
276,021.46 309. 00 276,330.46 43,669, 54 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
47,218, 29 8,952. 90 56, 171. 19 1,828.81 --------------|---------- * * * * = • June 25, 1910
55,772.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68,789.81 4, 210, 19 |- - - - - - - - - - - - #|--------------- June 30, 1906
4,636.05 34,644. 13 49,280.18 719.82 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
64,017.96 8,487.75 72,505. 71 2,494.29 |--------------|--------------- T)0.
21,780. 20 113,142.24 164,922.44 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000.00 4,922.44 DO.
68,602.47 194. 00 68,796.47 6,203.53 |--------------|--------------- Do.
17,237.73 37,241.06 62,978.79 7,021. 21 |--------------|--------------. Do. '
113,432.87 1, 103.02 123,535. 89 1,464. 11 ||--------------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
133,846. 54 1,663.00 146,009. 54 3,990.46 |--------------|--------------. Do.
61,085. 34 970. 00 77,447.87 3,552. 13 |--------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do. --
116,035.98 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 116,035.9S 3,964.02 ||--------------|-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 30, 1906
23, 249.46 29,345. 50 66,594.96 3,405.04 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
47,661.66 329.00 47,990.66 2,009. 34 ||--------------|-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - May 30, 1908
20, 164.36 28,353.00 48,517.36 1,482.64 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
1,706,272.88 340,052.86 2,046,325. 74 23,998.86 ||--------------|-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mar. 4, 1909
115,886.50 13,138.78 139,048.5S 5,951. 42 |--------------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
58,982.61 109.87 59,092.48 907. 52 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
87, 127.02 300, 00 124,927.02 72.98 |... ------------|-----. . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
68,098.96 1,887, 50 69,986.46 13.54 i--------------|--------------- DO.
44,681.81 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44,681.81 318. 19 |----------------------------- DO.
59,098.80 2,750.00 74,448.80 2,561.20 --------------|--------------- DO.
6, 142.87 46,828.00 52,971. 87 2,028, 13 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
61,716.53 73. 0 89,639.53 360. 47 --------------|--- . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
62,074. 21 1,653. 75 71,727.96 3,272.04 ||--------------|--------------- JDO.
18,684.09 412. 60 19,096.69 903. 31 |---------------------- . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
35,599. 20 400. 00 35,999. 20 4,000.80 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
40,663.43 21,299.80 61,963. 23 3,036.77 --------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
54,769.76 5. 00 62,774.76 2,225.24 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
57,700. 42 12,900.80 70,601.22 4,398. 78 |--------------|--------. . . . . . . June 25, 1910
61,641.87 6, 902. 52 68,544.39 1,465.61 --------------|--------------- Do.
10,457. 13 28,832.60 53,451.36 1,548.64 |--------------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
74, 880. 76 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74,880.76 119.24 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
85. 68,254.00 90,339.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43,000.00 28,339.00 Do.
38,757.04 25,483.25 82,240.29 2,759. 71 |--------------|--------------- DO.
38,996.65 34,599.33 73,595.98 1,404,02 --------------|--------------- Do.
9,371.68 27,377.42 | 48,899. 10 |- . . . . . . . . . . . --- 6,500.00 5,399, 10 Do.
s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * 82,084. 56 415. 44 (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .' June 30, 1906

69,044.94
6 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BTUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON


• * * * Amount Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of work. Limit of cost. •$ expended for
appropriated. site and land.
Canton, Ohio. ------- Post office........ Extension......... $20,000.00 $20,000.00 |........ -----.
Cape Girardeau, Mo. Post 3. and Site and building. 130,000.00 130,000.00 $15,024.29
COUllſtºl OllS0.
Carnegie, Pa... ----- Post office---------|----- 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - 80,000.00 45,000.00 37,718.75
Carrollton, Ga-------|----- do------------ Additional land 52,500.00 52,500.00 750. 00
and building.
Carrollton, Mo.......]..... do------------ Building... ------. 60,000.00 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Cartersville, Ga-...--|--... do------------|----- 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - 51,250.00 46,250.00 |..... ---------
Carthage iſło...I.I.I.I.I. do------------ Site and building. 90,000.00 90,000.00 28, 18
Casper, Wyo.-------|----- do------------ uilding---------- 55,000.00 55,000.00 |...... --------
Catlettsburg, Ky. ---| Post office and ||..... do------------ 100,000.00 100,000.00 |..............
courthouse.
Cedartown, Ga. ..... Post office... ------.... do------------ 50,000.00 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Chambersburg, Pa..|..... do------------|----- do------------ 65,000.00 65,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Charleroi, Pa. -------|----. 0- - - - - - - - - - - - Site and building.. 90,000.00 90,000.00 21,217.46
Charleston, W. Va... Post office and Extension. . . . . . . . 225,000.00 225,000.00 |... -----------
courthouse. •
Charlotte, N. C. .....| Assay office....... Alterations... . . . . . 25,000.00 25,000.00 |....... -------
Chelsea, Mass....... Post office. - - - - - - - Site and building...] 125,000.00 125,000.00 40,000.00
Chicago, Ill....... v. - Appraisers’ stores. Repairs and alter- 15,000.00 15,000.00 |... -----------
ations.
Chicago Heights, Ill. Post office... - - - - - Site and building.. 65,000.00 65,000.00 15,000.00
Chickasha, Okla..... Post Office and uilding. --------- 135,000.00 135,000.00 |..............
courthouse.
Chico, Cal........... " Post office. - - - - - - - Site and building...] 100,000.00 65,000.00 15,000.00
Chippewa Falls, Wis . . . . . do------------ uilding---------- 85,000.00 85,000.00 |.... ---------.
Clarinda, Iowa......l..... do------------ Site and building-. 60,000.00 60,000.00 5,008.36
Clarksdale, Miss.....!..... do------------|----- do------------ 115,750.00 115,750.00 5,750.00
Clarksville, Tex.....|..... do------------ Building.......... 45,000.00 45,000.00 |....... -------
Clay Center, Kans...|..... do------------ Site and building.. 65,000.00 65,000.00 5,000.00
Cleburne, Tex.......|... . . do------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - 100.000. 00 100,000.00 16,500.00
Cleveland, Tenn. ...|..... do------------ Building. --------. 50,000.00 50,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Coffeyville, Kans....|..... do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 75,000.00 10,000.00
Collinsville, Ill......]..... do------------|----- do-----------. 70,000.00 34,000.00 ,000.
Concord, N.Y............ do-------------| Building---------. 60,000.00 60,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Concordia, Kans....|..... do-------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 70,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Connersville, Ind....|..... do-------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - - 60,000.00 60,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . |- - - - -
Cordele, Ga.............. do------------- Site and building . 67,500.00 67,500.00 7,500.00
Corinth, Miss .......]..... do-------------|----- do------------- 63,500.00 63,500.00 9,500.00
Try, Pa. ----------|------ do------------ Building.......... 100,000.00 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Cortland, N. Y......]..... do------------------ do------------- 80,000.00 80,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Covington, Va......|- - - - - do-------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - - 45,000.00 45,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Crowley, La.........|..... do.............| Site and building.. 55,000.00 55,000.00 5,000.00
Cullman, Ala. . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------| Building.......... 50,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
Cynthiana, Ky......|- - - - - do-------------|----- do------------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Danville, Ill......... Post office and Site and building...] 275,000.00 275,000.00 41,250.00
Courthouse.
Danville, Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Extension......... 62,500.00 60,000.00 |.... ----------
Darlington, S. C. ....| Post office......... Site and building.. 50,000.00 50,000.00 1,500.00
Davenport, Iowa.... Post office and Extension......... 70,000.00 70,000.00 |............ --
courthouse.
Dayton, Ohio.......|..... do------------- Building-......... 875,000.00 875,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Defiance, Ohio. . . . . . Post Office.........l..... do------------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 |....... -- - - - - -
Delavan, Wis. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 62,500.00 52, 500.00 9,000.00
femopolis, Aia.....|..... do------------- Building. --------. 40,000.00 40,000.00 |..............
Denison, Iowa.......|..... do------------------ do------------- 50,000.00 50,000.00 |....... -------
Denver, Colo........|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 2,000,000.00 1,800,000.00 |...... -------.
Des Moines, Iowa...|..... do------------------ O- - - - - - - - - - - - - 500,000.00 500,000.00 |.... ... -- - - - - -
De Soto, Mo.........]-.... do------------- Site and building.. 60,000.00 55,000.00 8,250.00
Detroit, Mich. . . . . . . Rost office and | Extension......... 402,500.00 402,500.00 |........ ------
courthouse. -
Dothan, Ala. . . . . . . . Post office......... Site and building... 100,000.00 100,000.00 6,476.64
Douglas, Wyo.......|..... do-------------| Building---------. 65,000.00 65,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Dublin, Ga..........|..... do............. Site and building...] 64,000.00 64,000.00 6,000.00
Duluth, Minn. . . . . . . Post office, court- || Additional land 315,000.00 315,000.00 260,979.50
house, and cus- and extension.
tombouse.
Duqoin, Ill... . . . . . . . Post office . . . . . . . . Building, and ad- 60,000.00 60,000.00 3,000.00
ditional land.
Dyersburg, Tenn....|..... do.... . . . . . . . . . Site and building. 50,000.00 50,000.00 3,500.00
Eagle Pass, Tex..... Post office and . . . . . do... . . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 2,030.23
Customhouse.
Easton, Pa... . . . . . . . Post office......... Building. . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 100,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Edwardsville, Ill. ...|..... do------------- Site and building 70,000.00 70,000.00 14,000.00
Elberton, Ga........]..... do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 57,500.00 57,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Elgin, Ill..............---do------------- Extension......... 40,000.00 40,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Elwood, Ind........]..... do------------- Site and building. 75,000.00 75,000.00 8,500.00
ESCanaba, Mich.....] . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 64,000.00 64,000.00 4,031.25
Estherwiſe, IoWa....]... . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Building... . . . . . . . 60,000.00 60,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
7
eacpended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued. §
STRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.
Amount Total * Amount
expended for º expended and ſº to be ap- Deficiency. Date of act.
buildings. * outstanding. ſe propriated.
$5,787.08 $13,368.59 $19,155.67 $844.33 --------------|--------------- June 23, 1913
106,846.89 |--------------- 121,871. 18 8, 128.82 --------------|-------------- - June 30, 1906
200.00 39,824.00 77,742.75 |--------------- $35,000.00 $32,742.75 June 25, 1910
44,410.88 5,825.00 50,985.88 1,514. 12 --------------|--------------- Do.
58,063. 16 |... ------------ 58,063. 16 1,936.84 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
5,848.34 38,485.42 44,333.76 1,916. 24 5,000.00 --------------- June 25, 1910
83,203.93 F83. 0 83,815. 11 6, 184.89 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
2,416.60 50,032.40 52,449.00 2,561.00 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
97,393.53 400.0 97,793.53 2,206.47 |--------------|--------------. May 30, 1908.
30,410.42 16,611.95 47,022.37 2,977.63 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
62,674.95 663.00 63,337.95 1,662.05 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
66,317.65 400.00 87,935. 11 2,064.89 ----------------------------- June 30, 1906
199,109.26 23, 135.25 222,244.51 2,765. 49 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908.
24, 127.95 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 24,127.95 872.05 --------------|--------------- June 23, 1913.
79,899.93 400.00 120,299.93 4,700.07 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908.
10,224.00 2,467.50 12,691.50 2,308.50 ---...---------|--------------- June 23, 1913.
47,513.67 350.00 62,863.67 2,136.33 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
85,310.15 48,244.32 133,554.47 1,445. 53 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
4,321.00 77,829.00 97, 150.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 35,000.00 32,150.00 June 25, 1910
78,357.47 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 78,357.47 6,642.53 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
51,611.63 |--------------- 56,619.99 3,380.01 --------------|--------------- * IDO.
489. 84 105,693.70 111,933.54 3,816.46 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
9, 160.45 35,346.00 44,506. 45 493.55 --------------|--------------- Do.
59,445. 55 20. 75 64,466.30 533.70 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
81,272.47 400.00 98,172.47 1,827.53 --------------|--------------- Do.
47,535.46 400.00 47,935.46 2,064. 54 |--------------|--------------- Do.
62,138.96 350.00 72,488.96 2,511.04 |--------------|-------------- . Do.
sº tº º ºs s = e = e º sº s is sº 57,336.00 65,336.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36,000.00 31,336.00 June 25, 1910
58,024, 21 400.0 58,424.21 1,575.79 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
29,341.78 33,832.50 63,174.28 6,825.72 --------------|-------- gº as sº sº a s = June 25, 1910
56, 556,94 400.00 57,066.94 2,933.06 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908.
55, 171.63 163. 33 62,834.96 4,665.04 --------------|--------------- - Do.
48, 108. 17 5,215. 73 62,823.90 676. 10 1--------------|-------- tº e s = * * * Do.
42,312.61 53,957. 20 96,269.81 3,730. 19 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
49,639.67 25, 311.76 74,951.43 5,048.57 --------------|--------------- Do.
1,533.30 42,870. 70 44,404.00 596-00 |--------------|--------------- Do.
37,348. 26 10,901.58 53,249.84 1,750. 16 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
47,696.86 368. 10 48,064.96 1,935.04 |--------------|-------- © tº dº sº sº e s June 25, 1910
53,203.85 6, 410.35 59,614.20 5,385.80 --------------|--------------- O.
226,883. 54 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 268, 133.54 6,866.46 |..... ---------|-------- tº sº e s = s. s. May 30, 1908
50,837. 61 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,837.61. 9,162.39 2,500.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
47,666.60 39.00 49,205.60 794-40 --------------|--------------- Do.
69, 753. 10 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69, 753. 10 246.90 ... . . . . . . -----|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
784,637. 37 88,704. 51 873,341.88 1, 574. 72 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 83.40 Do.
54,276.76 6,141.80 60,418. 56 4,581.44 |..... ---------|... . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
1, 525.50 46,663.00 57, 188.50 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 4,688.50 Do.
39,750.46 |. . . . . . . . • * * * * * = & 39,750.46 249.54|--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
43,926.03 5,281.67 49,207.70 792.30 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
1,375, 114.10 609,345.81 | 1,984,459.91 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000.00 184,459.91 || May 30, 1908
477,771.37 7,936.65 485,708.02 14,291.98 |.. ------------|-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 30, 1906
6,299.85 43,688. 20 58,238.05 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 3,238.05 || June 25, 1910
324,659. 18 . . . . . . gº º sº e º ºs e s = 324,659. 18 72,340. 82 |...... ---..... 17,500.00 || June 30, 1906
90, 708. 54 1,022.50 98,207.68 1,792.32 --------------|--------------- Do. -
17,826.48 45,552.80 63,379.28 1,620.72 --------------|--------------. June 25, 1910.
56,882. 30 445. 00 63,327.30 672.70 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
45,599.76 2,345.00 308,924. 26 6,075.74 - . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------- June 30, 1906.
17,852. 13 35,781.50 56,633.63 3,366.37 . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------- June 25, 1910
46, 112. 14 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49,612. 14 387.86 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
65,830.46 1,637.00 69,497.69 5,502.31 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
96,877.50 155.90 97,033. 40 2,966.60 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
34,375. 55 19,586.65 67,962.20 2,037.80 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
54,419.45 3.00 54,422.45 3,077.55 --------------|--------------- O.
36,850.65 400.00 37,250.65 2,749.35 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
59, 769. 76 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68,269.76 ,730.24 |--------------|--------------- Do.
55,941.21 400.00 60,372.46 3,627.54 |----------------------------- June 30, 1906
59,649.62 340.00 59,989.62 10.38 . . . . . . . ---------------------- May 30, 1908


Surplus fund.
8 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
|BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON

tº tº tº º Amount Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of Work. Limit of cost. appropriated expended for
- pprop 'i site and land.
Eufaula, Ala. . . . . . . . Post Office.... -- - - - Site and building. $50,000.00 || $50,000.00 $9,000.00
Eugene, Oreg. ------|----- do-------------|-----do------------- 70,000.00 70,000.00 6, 162.01
Evanston, Ill-...----|----- do------------- Extension......... 50,000.00 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - -------
Bºlsior Springs, - - - - - do---------- '...] Site and building. 60,000.00 40,000.00 11,000.00
O.
Fairmont, W. Va. . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 125,000.00 125,000.00 31,076.60
Fayetteville, Ark...|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 60,000.00 60,000.00 , 29. 51
Fayetteville, N. C. . . . . . . . do-------------i----- do------------- 70,000.00 70,000.00 10,012. 44
Fernandina, Fla....| Post office, cus- |... -- do------------- 100,000.00 100,000.00 6,043.69
tomhouse, and .
Courthouse. * x- }:
Florence, Ala........| Post office--------. Building. -- - - - - - - - 120,000.00 120,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Fort Madison, Iowa.|- . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Frankfort, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 70,000.00 70,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Franklin, La. -------|----- do------------- Site and building. 50,000.00 50,000.00 8,000.00
Frostburg, Md. . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 50,000.00 50,000.00 10,000.00
Fulton, Ky....... ---|----. do-------------|----- do------------- 50,000.00 15,000.00 6,500.00
Fulton, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 75,000.00 75,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Gadsden, Ala.......|..... do------------ Site and building... 188,000.00 188,000.00 11,041. 41
Gaffney, S. C. ... ---|----- do------------|----- do------------ 60,000.00 60,000.00 9,500.00
Galveston, Tex..... Appraisers’ Stores.|- - - - - do------------ 65,000.00 65,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Garden City, Kans--| Post office........|... . . do---------- -- 60,000.00 15,000.00 2,000.00
Gastonia, N.C. .......... do------------|----- do... --------- 85,000.00 70,000.00 14,750.00
Georgetown, Ky....]. . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 90,000.00 45,000.00 12,500.00
Gettysburg, Pa. ----|----- do------------ Building---------- 117,000.00 117,000.00 |... -- - - - - - - - - -
Gonzales, TeX.... . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building.. 50,000.00 50,000.00 26. 38
Goshen, indſ............. do------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 || 70,000.00 13,650.00
Grafton, W. Va. . . . . . . . . . do------------ Building.... ------ 135,000.00 135,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Granite City, Ill... . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building. . 80,000.00. 80,000.00 13,500.00
Grass Valley, Cal....|- - - - - do------------ Building---------- 55,000.00 45,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Great Falls, Mont...I Post office and site and building. - 215,000.00 215,000.00 15,080. 70
Courthouse.
Greeley, Colo... . . . . . Post office...... -- Building---------- 110,000.00 85,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Greensburg, Pa.....|..... do------------|----- do------------ 100,000.00 100,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Greenville N.C..]...I do...I.I.I.I.I.I.I. do------------ 55,000.00 55,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Greenwood, Miss......... do------------ Site and building. . 60,000.00 60,000.00 6,500.00
Grenada, Miss......]. . . . . do------------|----- do. . . . . ------- 50,000.00 25,000.00 5,500.00
Guthrie, Okla. . . . . . . Post office and | Extension... . . . . . . 125,000.00 125,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Courthouse.
* EIampton, Va. . . . . . . Post office........ Site and building. . 80,000.00 60,000.00 13,500.00
Hanford, Cal--------|-- - - - do------------|----- do------------ 75,000.00 60,000.00 17,000.00 |
Hanover, Pa.. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 110,000.00 110,000.00 21,500.00
Harriman, Tenn. . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 55,000. 00 55,000.00 2,300.00
Harrisburg, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Harrisburg, Pa.. . . . . Post office and | Extension. . . . . . . . . 200,000.00 125,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
Hattiesburg, Miss. . . Post office--- - - - - - - Building . . . . . . . . . . 75,000. 00 75,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
EIenderson, N. C. . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 60,000. 00 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hendersonville, N.C. . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 70,000.00 70,000.00 6,000.00
Hickory, N. C. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building - - - - - - - - - - 60,000.00 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Highpoint, N. C. . . . . . . . . . do------- .* * * * = • , = • * * = do--------- * - - - 65,000. 00 65,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Eſillsboro, Tex. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building. . 70,000.00 70,000.00 6,500.00
Hilo, Hawaii. . . . . . . . Post office, custom-| Building . . . . . . . . . . 200,000.00 150,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
house,and court- \ -
house. w
Holdroge, Nebr. . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . . Site and building. . 80,000. 00 80,000.00 6,000.00
Holland, Mich. . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- • 100,000. 0ſ) 45,000.00 14,000.00
Homestead, Pa... . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 100,000. 00 || 100,000. 00 32,000.00
Honolulu, Hawaii... Quarantine station sºnse,kitchen. 38, 200.00 38, 200.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
GlöC.
Hopkinsville, Ky. . . Post office... . . . ... -- Building-...-------. 85,000. 00 85,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hot Springs, Ark... --|- - - - - do------------- Extension... . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hudson, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building. . 75,000. 00 75,000.00 15,036. 07
Huntingdon, Pa. . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 80,000. 00 65,000.00 15,950. 00
Huron, S. Dak. . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 106,000.00 106,000. 00 1.00
Idaho Falls, Idaho. -|- - - - - do------------------ do------------- 100,000.00 100,000.00 8,000.00
Independence, IKans |. . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 75,000. 00 75,000. 00 13, 500, 00
Independence, Mo...|. . . . . do------------- Additional land 80,000.00 80,000.00 4,750.00
and building.
Iowa Falls, Iowa. . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000. 00 50,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Ironton, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 90,000.00 90,000.00 13,000, 00
Jackson, Ky. . . . . . . . IPost office and ||. . . . . do------------- 100,000.00 65,000. 00 10,000.00
courthouse. - - -
Jeffersonville, Ind. . . Post office... . . . . . . Building-...------- 65,000. 00 65,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . -- - -
Jellico, Tenn. . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 70,000. 00 40,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . - - - - -
Jennings, La . . . . . . . . . . . . . do... . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 50,000. 00 25,000.00 4,500.00
Jersey City, N. J . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- 1,050,000.00 | 1,050,000.00 454, 625. 57
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
STRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.

# Amount -- ** * * | Total e Amount
Hexpended for º expended and ſº to be ap- || Deficiency. | Date of act.
buildings. e outstanding. - propriated. |
$39,878.67 |............... $48,878.67 $1,121.33 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
63,228.09 $400.00 69,790. 10 209.90 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
32,924.64 15,806. 70 48,731.34 1,268.66 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
11,510.51 36,111.15 58,621.66 |... . . . . -------- $20,000.00 $18,621.66 IDO.
91,510. 19 868. 40 123,455. 19 1,544.81 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
55, 177.40 350, 00 55,556.91 4,443.09 --------------|--------------- Do.
59,611.24 358.00 69,981.68 18.32 ----------------------------- DO.
86,953.49 927. 70 93,924.88 6,075. 12 |--------------|--------------- I)o.
119,409. 11 380.00 119,789. 11 210.89 --------------|--------------- Do.
64,487.81 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 64,487.81 512.19 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
42,482. 16 24, 176.40 66,658.56 3,341.44 |--------------|--------------- DO.
36,461. 19 4,975.94 49,437. 13 562.87 ----------------------------- May 30, 1908
37,960.72 1,048.10 49,008.82 991. 18 l--------------|--------- - - - - - - Do.
* 80.00 40,381. 40 46,961. 40 |..... . . . . . . . . . . 35,000.00 31,961.40 || June 25, 1910
49,419.33 24, 453. 40 73,872.73 1, 127, 27 --------------|--------------- T)0.
167,972.98 I, 732. ()0 180,746. 39 7,253.61 -- . . . . . . ------|--------------- June 30, 1906
50,217. 47 215. (30 59,932.47 67.53 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 64,690.00 64,690.00 3.10.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
741. ()() 53,712.00 56,453.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45,000.00 41,453. 0() June 25, 1910
2,517.72 60,976. 40 78,244. 12 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000. CO 8,244. 12 || May 30, 1908
293. 00 Ü7, 107.00 79,900.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45,000.00 34,900.00 || June 25, 1910
105,299.75 7,372.86 li2,672. 61 4,327.39|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TY O.
45,235.95 850, 00 45,612. 33 4,387.67 -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
54, 102.44 500.00 68,252. 44 1,747.56 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
107,251, 93 23,691.50 130,943. 43 4,056. 57 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
64,329. 49 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77, S30. 49 2, 170.51 - . . . . . . . ------|--------------- May 30, 1908
6,373. 00 44, 974. 40 51,347. 40 | . . . . . . '• - - - - - - - - 10,000.00 6,347. 40 || June 25, 1910
197,614.69 357. 50 213,052, 89 1,947. 11 | . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 30, 1906
7,792.00 95,433.00 103,225.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000.00 18,225.00 ..une 25, 1910
92, 130.59 40ſ). ()0 92,530.59 7,469. 41 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
35,535. 79 15, (41.05 51,576.84 3,423. 16 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . june 25, 1910 . .
45, SS6.53 6,540.83 58,927.36 1,072.64 i. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
5,957. 56 36, 165.00 47,622. 56 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000.00 22,622. 56 June 25, 1910
77,799.73 43,743. S4 121,543. 57 3,455.43 (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
3,890. 92 61,532. 70 78,923. 62 j- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000. 00 18,923. 62 IDO.
2,487.00 54,083.00 73,570.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000.00 , 13,570.00 T. O.
81,393.35 155.00 103,0.1S. 35 6,96'. 65 ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TXO.
51, 296.28 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53,596.28 1,403.72 |--------------|--------------. May 30, 1908
48, 150.89 8,808.00 56,958.89 3,041. 11 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
15, 119.21 3,097.07 108,216.28 16,783.72 75,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N Do.
Z4,809.70 45. 00 74,854. 70 145.30 F. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - May 30, 1908
58,207.04 400.00 58,607.04 1,392.96 |. . . . . . . . . . . . .---------------- T}o. .
39,991.69 21,514.94 67, 506.63 2,493.37 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
50, 107.48 7,403. 19 57, 510.67 2,489.33 ||--------------|--------------- O.
54,425.72 5,437.80 59,863.52 5,136. 48 ||--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
44,015.58 16,394.65 66,910.23 3,089.77 --------------|--------------- DO.
6,716.70 | 183,005.30 189,722.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 39,722.00 June 25, 1910
72,290.87 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 78,290.87 1,709. 13 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
2,281.00 68,606.00 84,887.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 39, SS7.00 || June 25, 1910
65, 165.94 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 97, 165.94 2,834.06 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
34,640.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34,640.00 3,560.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aug. 24, 1912
47,480.39 26,947.08 74,427.47 10,572.53 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
43,625.87 3, 154.49 46,780.36 3,219.64 -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
58,232.92 350.00 73,618.99 1,381.01 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
27,404.66 35,302.35 78,657.01 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000.00 13,657.01 || June 25, 1910
105,117.82 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 105,118.82 881. 18 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
6,023. 13 | "82,988.63 97,011.76 2,988:24 . . . . . . . . . . ----|--------------. June 25, 1910
60,286. 12 400.00 || 74,186. 12 813.88 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
74,465. 28. 400. 00 79,615.28 384.72 -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
40,020.25 8, 477. 51 48,497.76 1,502.24 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
76,702. 50 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89,702.50 297.50 --------------|--------------. May 30, 1908
- * * - - - * * * * - - - - S2,099.60 92,099.60 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35,000.00 27,099.60 June 25, 1910
62,039.97 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62,039.97 2,960.03 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
• * * * * - - - - - - - - - 62,675.00 62,675.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000.00 22,675.00 Mar. 4, 1913
113.02 44,385.00 48,998.02 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000.00 23,998.02 || June 25, 1910
566,125.00 1,672.00 | 1,022,422. 57 27,577.43 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908

10 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON


Location Buildings Class of work. Limit of cost. ** sºor
* s tº "|appropriated. §§ºjanºi.
Johnstown, N. Y.... Post office........ Building.......... $75,000.00 $75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Johnstown, Pa......|..... do............. Site and building. 210,000.00 210,000.00 $80,833.75
Jonesboro, Ark... . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 80,000.00 80,000.00 10,500.00
Kansas City, Kans--|..... do............. Extension......... 156,000.00 156,000.00 |............ --
Kearney, Nebr......|..... do............. Site and building . 110,000.00 110,000.00 5,028.83
Kingfisher, Okla....|..... do------------- Building.......... 45,000.00 45,000.00 |........ -----.
Lafayette, La-------|----- do------------- Site and building. 65,000.00 55,000.00 15,000.00
Lake City, Minn. ---|-.... do-------------|----- do------------- 55,000.00 26,000.00 2,650.00
Lancaster, Ohio.....|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 75,000.00 75,000.00 15,067.05
Lander, Wyo. . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------| Building---------. 115,000.00 115,000.00 |-...----------
Lansing, Mich............ do............ - Extension...-----. 75,000.00 75,000.00 --------------
Laporte, Ind. ... ----|----- do.............] Site and building. 70,000.00 70,000.00 13,000.00
Laurens, S. C. ------|----- do-------------4----- do------------- 60,000.00 60,000.00 10,000.00
Lawrenceburg, Ky....... do---------...- Building...... - - - - 50,000.00 50,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Lead, S. Dak........]. . . . . do............. Site and building. 100,000.00 100,000.00 21, 104.25
Lebanon, Tenn. . . . . . . . --do-------------| Building---------. 50,000.00 50,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Le Mars, Iowa. . . . . . . . . . . 0-------------|- - - - - do------------- 50,000.00 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
fewes, fei.........|..... do-------------|----- do------------ 40,000.00 | 40,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Lewiston, Idaho....|..... do-------------|----- do------------ 85,000.00 85,000.00 |..............
Lexington, Ky.-----|----- do-------------| Extension.-------- 80,000.00 80,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Lexington, N.C.....|..... do------------- Site and building. 65,000.00 65,000.00 15,000.00
Lexington, Va. . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 60,000.00 60,000.00 7,500.00
Lima, Ohio ---------|-.... do-------------| Extension.-------- 60,000.00 60,000.00 |..............
Litchfield, Ill.......|..... do------------- Building - - - - - - - - - - 60,000.00 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Little I alls, N. Y...]. . . . . do--------- ....| Site and building. 85,000.00 85,000.00 16,047.47
Little Rock, Ark.... Post oli ce and Extension........| 125,000.00 125,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Courthouse. *
Livingston, Mont... Post of]...ce. . . . . . . . Building . . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
London, Ky. . . . . . . . Post of ce and | Site and building... 105,000.00 105,000.00 7,520.96
courthouse. -
Long Branch, N. J.. | Post off.ce. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 125,000.00 125,000.00 19,000.00
Lorain, Ohio........]..... do------------|----- do------------ 150,000.00 150,000.00 41,250.00
Los Angeles, Cal... --| Post off ce and ||..... do. ----------- 1,213,367. 25 | 1,213,367.25 97. 19
courthouse. -
Lynchburg, Va. . . . . . . . . . do------- . . . . . Extension . . . . . . . . . 205,000.00 180,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Macomb, Ill... . . . . . . Post oſſ, ce. . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 70,000.00 70,000.00 4,000.00
Macon, Mo. . . . . . . . --|..... do------. . . . . . Building---------. 63,500.00 63, 500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Malone, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- O - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . .----.
Manhattan, Kans. . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building. 50,000.00 50,000.00 2,419.85
Mansfield, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 100,000.00 100,000.00 20,000.00
Marietta, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . do----------------- do------------ 100,000.00 100,000.00 15. 39
Marinette. Wis. . . . . . . . . . . do----. . . . . . . . Building . . . . . . . . . . 80,000.00 80,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Marion, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building. 95,000.00 95,000.00 18,093.48
Marlboro, Mass. . . . . . . . . . do-----------. Building -- - - - - - - - - 70,000.00 70,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Marshall, Mo... . . . . . ... • * * * * do------------|----- do. . ---------- 60,000.00 60,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Marshall, TeX. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 65,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Maryville, Mo... . . . . . . . . . do-------. . . . . Site and building.. 75,000.00 75,000.00 6,800.00
Massillon, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . do----. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 90,000.00 90,000.00 20,000.00
Mattoon, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-----. . . . > * * * * * * * * * do------------ 90,000.00 90,000.00 9,000.00
McAlester, Okla..... Post off ce and | Building - - - - - - - - - - 135,000.00 135,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
courthouse.
McKinney, Tex... . . Post oſſ.ce. . . . . . . . Site and building-- 60,000.00 60,000.00 3,000.00
McPherson, Kans...}..... do. . . . . . . . . . . .1----- do-----------. 50,000.00 30,000.00 4,100.00
Menomonie, Wis. . . . . . . . . do------------ Building . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Mexico, Mo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------| Site and building . 80,000.00 80,000.00 10,000.00
Miami, Fla... . . . . . . . . Post office, court- . . . . . O- - - - - - - - - - - - - 175,000.00 175,000.00 15,000.00
house and cus-
tom house.
Middletown, N. Y. . . Post office.... . . . . . Building -- . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Milford, Mass. . . . . . . . . . . . o......... . . . . . Site and building. 95,000.00 95,000.00 17,000.00
Milledgeville, Ga....|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 60,000.00 60,000.00 10,000.00
Milwaukee, Wis..... Appraisers’ stores. Building.......... 115,000.00 75,000.00 |... -- - - - - - - - - -
Mineral Wells, Tex... Post office........ . Site and building. 60,000.00 60,000.00 1.00
Minneapolis, Minn....... 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - Building.......... 900,000.00 900.000.00 ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Minot, N. Dak. . . . . . Post office and | Site and building. 150,000.00 130,000.00 9,800.00
Courthouse. ...
Mishawaka, Ind..... Post office.........l..... do-------- 75,000.00 75,000.00 15,000.00
Missoula, Mont... . . . . . . . . do.------------| Building---------- 180,000.00 180,000.00 |..............
Mobile, Ala.........|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 300,000.00 230,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Monroe, Mich. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building. 60,000.00 60,000.00 8,000.00
Monroe, N. C. .......|..... do------------- Building. --------- 53,000.00 53,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Moorhead, Minn. ... [..... do-------------|----- do------------- 63,500.00 63,500.00 |..............
Morgantown, W. Va. [..... do............. Site and building. | 135,000.00 135,000.00 36,000.00
Morristown, Tenn... [..... do------------. Building.......... 70,000.00 70,000.00 |..............
Moscow, Idaho. . . . . . PoSt. r; and Site and building. 100,000.00 100,000.00 12,574.44
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expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
STRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.


1 Surplus fund.
Amount º Total * Amount
expended for º expended and ſº to be ap-, Deficiency. Date of act.
buildings. ‘. . Lºlº e outstanding. e propriated. -
$71,979.60 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . $71,979.60 $3,020.40 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
126,418.51 $1,020.00 208,272.26 1,727.74 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
69,484.95 12.76 79,997. 71 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . siz76 |{ *#}}May 30, 1908
154,618.21 400.00 155,018.21 981.79 |--------------|--------------- DO.
104,784. 19 104. 70 109,917.72 82.28 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
44, 541.23 110.00 44,651.23 348.77 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
8,894. 13 38,201.65 62,095.78 . . . . . . . -------. 10,000.00 7,095.78 DO.
995. 00 48,095.00 51,740.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 29,000.00 25,740.00 DO.
58,619. 64 1,083.00 74,769.69 230.31 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
107,349. 16 149.00 107,498. 16 7,501.84 ||--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
73, 886. 14 164. 76 74,050.90 949. 10 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
56,352.00 648.00 70,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
48,550.89 400.00 58,950. 89 1,049. 11 |--------------|--------------- Do.
43,451.34 6,391. 41 49,842.75 157.25 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
75,901.69 141.67 '97, 147.61 2,852.39 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
30,303.94 19, 136.65 49,440.59 569.41 ----------------------------- June 25, 1910
3, 111.00 44,289.00 47,400.00 2,600.00 --------------|--------------- DO.
25,367. 18 12,437.00 37,804. 18 2, 195.82 |--------------|--------------- DO.
82,063. 37 10.30 82,073.67 2,926.33 ||--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
78, 102.52 400.00 78,502. 52 1,497.48 |--------------|--------------- Do.
48,790.66 15.00 63,805. 66 1, 194.34 |--------------|----- * * * * * * * * * * Do.
50,861. 18. 9.75 58,370.93 1,629.07 --------------|--------------- Do.
58,925.35 142. 70 59,068.05 931.95 --------------|--------------- DO.
59,268.74 400.00 59, 668. 74 331.26 --------------|--------------- Do.
68, 208. 89 743.00 84,999.36 .64 --------------|--------------- June 6, 1902
122,370.18 1,697.50 | 124,067.68 932.32 I.-------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
73,729. 14 1,076.00 74,805. 14 194.86 l--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
87,597.71 1,020.00 96,138.67 8,861.33 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
48,836. 16 50,511.54 118,347.70 6,652.30 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
S4,512.83 14,957.97 140,720.80 9,279.20 --------------|--------------- DO.
1,209,402.83 3,867.00 1,213, 367.02 • 23 --------------|--------------- June 6, 1902
\ .
177,871.22 685.91 178,557. 13 1,442.87 25,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 30, 1906
11,492.23 51,767.00 67,259.23 2,740.77 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
63,209.69 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 63,209.69 290.31 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
49, 182.57 447. 89 49,630.46 369.54 --------------|--------------- DO.
47, 416. 36 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 49,836.21 163.79 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
70,592.03 8,943.29 99,535. 32 464.68 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
99,698.99 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 99,714.38 285.62 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906 .
75,311.95 400.00 75,711.95 4,288.05 --------------|--------------- DO.
75,356.15 400.00 93,849.63 1, 150.37 --------------|--------------- DO.
67,809. 35 2.50 67,811.85 2, 188: 15 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
56,882.72 677. 50 57,560.22 2,439.78 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
44, 383. 15 18,755.87 63, 139.02 1,860.98 |--------------|--------------- DO.
66,821.93 400.0 74,021.93 978-07 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
64,490.49 861.33 85,351.82 4,648. 18 |--------------|--------------- Do. .
78,513.49 1,030.50 88,543.99 1,466.01 |--------------|--------------- DO.
107,534.67 25,587.03 ), 133,121.70 1,878.30 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
55,049. 44 473. 75 58,523. 19 1,476.81 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
4,887. 44 39,593. 30 48,580. 74 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000.00 18,580.74 June 25, 1910
28,755.01 18,294.05 47,049.06 2,950.94 |--------------|--------------- DO.
68,850.33 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 78,850.33 1, 149.67 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
140,547.37 17,995. 28 173,542.65 1,457.35 --------------|--------------- Do.
69,392. 54 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 69,392.54 5,607. 46 |--------------|--------------- DO.
66,433.48 9,841.51 93,274.99 1,725.01 --------------|---- z - - - - - - - - - - DO.
45,691.06 25. 55,716.06 4, 283.94 |--------------|--------------- Do.
403.00 96,032.00 96,435.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,000.00 21,435.00 June 25, 1910
57,714.78 150.00 57,865. 78 2, 134.22 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
732,099.15 140,089.98 872, 189.13 27,810.87 --------------|--------------. IDO.
63, 101.83 67,233. 10 140,134.93 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000.00 10, 134.93 DO.
34,940, 73 20,775.25 70,715.98 4, 284.02 ||--------------|--------------. June 25, 1910
172,893. 53 2,990.00 175,883.53 4, 116.47 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
15,816.47 266,255.63 282,072. 10 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 70,000.00 52,072.10 || June 25, 1910
51,853.45 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 59,853.45 146.55 --------------|--------------. May 30, 1908
29,068.64 23,629.68 52,698.32 301, 68 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
42,455.57 18,016. 23 60,471.80 3,028.20 --------------|--------------- DO.
87, 180.22 10,583.61 133,763; 83. 1,236. 17 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
31,609.83 31,676.30 63, 286.13 6,713.87 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
85,534.59 1,767.05 99,876.08 123.92 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON



º | Amount Hºmº...!
Location. Buildings. Class of work. Limit of cost.] -. iat expended for
appropriated. §§.i.a.i.
Mº unds v i l l e, Post office.........| Site and building. $90,000.00 $80,000.00 $13,501.00
. V a. -
Mºº Clemens, ... -- do------------------ do------------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 5,000.00
ICſ). - -
Mount Sterling, Ky. . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 10,750.00
Mount Vernon, Ill...!..... do-------------|----- do------------- 90,000.00 82,000.00 17,000.00
Murfreesboro, Tenn. - - - - - O------ - - - - - - - - - - - - do------------- 67,000.00 67,000.00 7,026.93
Muskogee, Okla..... Post office and |- - - - - do-------------| 560,000.00 560,000.00 65,000.00
courthouse.
Nºgansett Pier, Post office.........|..... do------------- 69,000.00 30,000.00 19,000.00
Newark, N. Y....... [..... do-------------|----- do------------- 50,000.00 50,000.00 10,000.00
New Bedford, Mass. [..... do-------------| Building---------- 350,000.00 350,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newberry, S. C. - - - - - - - - - do------------ Site and building.. 60,000.00 60,000.00 5,500.00
New Brunswick, N.J. . . . . . do------------ Extension. . . . . . . . 45,000.00 45,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
New Haven, Conn. . . . . . . do------------ Site and building...] 1,200,000.00 800,000.00 350,000.00
New London, Conn.]. .... do------------ Extension. . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 - - - - - - , - e = * * * * *
New Orlaans, La.... Post office and Building. . . . . . . . . . 1,657,000.00 1,657,000.00 || -- . . . . . . . . . . .
Courthouse. - * .
Newport, Ark. . . . . . . Post office - - - - - - - - Site and building.. 59,500.00 59,500.00 9,000.00
New Rochelle, N. Y.]..... do------------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - 125,000.00 110,000.00 45,000.00
New York, N. Y. ...| Appraisers’ stores. Repairs. . . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |..............
P0-------------- Assay office. . . . . . . Ext ‘nsion. . . . . . . . 334,592.00 || 334, 592.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
P0-------------- Barge office. . . . . . . Reconstruction....] 589,935.00 589,935.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Po. ------------- Old courthouse Repairs, etc. . . . . . . 200,000.00 200,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
and post office. A
P0-------------. Marine Hospital.--| Extension. . . . . . . . 250,000.00 250,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
D0. ------------- Post office. . . . . . . . Building--. . . . . . . . 4,700,000.00 4,700,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
North Adams, Mass. . . . . . do------------ Site and building.. 115,000.00 115,000.00 30,792.61
Nº. Tonawanda, . . . . . do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 80,000.00 80,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
TN . -
North Yakim a , | Post office and ||. . . . . do-----------. 200,000.00 200,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Wash. Courthouse. -
Oil City, Pa... . . . . . . Post office - - - - - - - - EXbºnsion. . . . . . . . 25,000.00 25,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Oldtown, Me... . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Building -- . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 60,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Olean, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building.. 80,000.00 80,000.00 20,920.84
Olympia, Wash. . ...|..... do------------ Building... . . . . . . . 130,000.00 130,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Oneonta, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . do----------------- do------------ 75,000.00 75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Orang2, N. J. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - 100,000.00 80,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Örangshurg, S. Č...]...I. do------------ Site and building... 60,000.00 60,000.00 10,000.00
Osage Citv, Kans . . . . . . . . do------------------ do.-----------. 57,000.00 45,000.00 9,250.00
Ottawa, Kans... . . . . . . . . . do------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . - - - - - - - - -
Owatonna, Minn. . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 58,000.00 58,000.00 5,000.00
Owensboro, Ky. . . . . Post office and ||. . . . . do------------- 175,000.00 175,000.00 16,037.35
Courthouse. -
Oxford, N. C. . . . . . . . Post Office.-- Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Palestine, Tex.......|..... 10----- - - - - - - - - - - - - - do------------- 70,000.00 70,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Pana, Ill.-----------|----- do...-- - Site and building.. 70,000.00 70,000.00 6,000.00
Paragould, Ark.....|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 50,000.00 50,000.00 6,750.00
Paris, Ill............|----. do-------------|----- do------------- 105,000.00 | 105,000.00 11,034.83
Paris, TeX - - - - - - - - - -|----. do..... . . . . . . . . . Extension... . . . . . . 100,000.00 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - ---
Parsons, Rans......|..... do------------- Site and building.. 75,000.00 75,000.00 14,700.00
Pasadena, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 200,000.00 200,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Pawtucket, R. I. ...|..... do------------- Extension... . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Penn Yan, N. Y. . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 50,000.00 50,000.00 13,000.00
Pensacola, Fla. . . . . . Post office and Extension... . . . . . . 130,000.00 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Courthouse. -
Perry, Iowa. . . . . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Site and building . 60,000.00 60,000.00 7,000.00
Peru, Ind...... -----|----. do... -----| Building... . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
PetOSkev, Mich. . . . . . . . . . do... * * * * * * * * * * do------------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Piqua, Ohio... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building...] 175,000.00 175,000.00 42,500.00
Plattsmouth, Nebr..]... *.do..... . . . . . . . . Building . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Plymouth, Mass. . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building... 117,000.00 117,000.00 29,620. 19
focatélio, Idaho..... Post office and | Building. . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
- courthollSe.
P W l § t Pleasant, Post office... . . . . . . Site and building.. 75,000.00 75,000.00 7,500.00
. V a.
Poplar Bluff, Mo. . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Port Jervis, N. Y. . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 80,000.00 70,000.00 15,500.00
Portland, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . .------|----- do. . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 42,000.00 9,000.00
Portsmouth, Ohio... Post office and Extension. . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- courthouse.
Princeton, Ill. . . . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . Site and building.. 70,000.00 20,000.00 10,500.00
Princeton, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . -------|----- do..... ------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 11, 137.50
Pulaski, Tenn............do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Punxsutawney, Pa.. . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 60,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
*
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
13
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
STRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.

Amount - Total g Amount -
expended for º * expended and ſº to be ap- Deficiency. | Date of act.
buildings. - outstanding. º propriated. *
&
$10,485.23 $50,829.70 $74,815.93 $5, 184.07 || $10,000.00 |....... -------. June 25, 1910
58,040.70 424.00 63,464. 70 1,535.30 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
53,228.79 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63,978.79 1,021.21 |--------------|--------------- Do.
3, 149.00 60,298.96 80,447.96 1,552.04 8,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
59,666.99 306.00 66,999.92 .08 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
331,490.76 151,045.90 547, 536.66 12,463.34 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
235.00 48, 161.00 67,396.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 39,000.00 $37,396.00 June 25, 1910
39,987.04 ||--------------- 49,987.04 12.96 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
189,955.98 136,723.87 326,679.85 23,320.15 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
51,945.96 886. 00 58,331.96 1,668.04 ||--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
30,275.05 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30,275.05 14,724.95 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do. l
288,996.63 326,483.86 965,480. 49 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 400,000.00 165,480. 49 || June 25, 1910
37, 528. 77 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 37,528.77 12,471.23 ||--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
1,512,422.21 138,818.39 1,651,240. 60 5,759-40 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
819.00 44, 180.68 53,999.68 5,500.32 ||--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
9,270.40 55,850.05 110, 120.45 ||--------------. 15,000.00 120.45 Do.
26, 125.20 28,008.43 54,133.63 20,866.37 - - - - - - - - - . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Aug. 24, 1912
333,124.48 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 333,124.48 1,467.52 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
449,033.08 103,737. 55 552,770.63 37,164.37 --------------|--------------- May 27, 1908
89,636.53 46,018.23 135,654. 76 64,345. 24 |--------------|--------------- Apr. 6, 1914
217,309.35 30,983.37 248,292.72 1, 707-28 ||--------------|--------------- May 27, 1908
4,507, 181.67 12,632.60 4,519,814. 27 180,185.73 --------------|--------------- Do.
78,612.37 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 109,404, 98 5,595.02 |--------------|--------------. June 30, 1906
71,084.39 8,450.80 79,535:19 464.81 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
195,326.45 400.00 195,726.45 4,273.55 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
21,556.60 35. 80 21,592. 40 3,407. 60 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910 -
53,063.91 6,729. 10 59,793.01 203.99 ||--------------|--------------- DO.
58,423.59 193.00 79,537.43 462.57 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
106,931. 40 19,423. 70 126,355. 10 3,644. 90 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910.
33,968.78 38,001.90 71,970.68 3,029.32 |--------------|--------------- Do.
7,836.00 76,305.50 84, 171.50 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20,000.00 4, 171.50 Do.
49,597. 78 400.00 59,997. 78 2.22 --------------|--------------. May 30, 1908.
15,523.56 30,847. C4 55,621. 20 ||--------------- 12,000.00 10,621. 20 June 25, 1910
40, 196.75 19, 556.91 59,753. 66 5,246.34 --------------|--------------- •). O.
37. 142. 55 13,308.00 55, 450. 55 2,549. 45 |--------------|--------------- Do.
152,822.22 2,010.31 170,869.88 4, 130. 12 |--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
41, 768. 52 5,446.05 47,214, 57 2,785.43 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910.
69,833. 42 105.00 69,938. 42 61.58 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
60,606.91 478.00 67,084.91 2,915.09 --------------|--------------. Do.
40,008. 21 234.85 47,083.06 2.916.94 --------------|--------------- DO.
85,798.02 478. 00 97.310.85 7,089. 15 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
86,413. 13 11,588. 53 98,001. ($6 1,998.34 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
59. 142, 66 39(3.00 74,238.66 761.34 |--------------|--------------. May 30, 1908
61,729.59 129,024.01 190,753. 60 9,246.40 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
49, 406.80 27.00 49, 433.80 560.20 ----------------------------- May 30, 1908
36,608.40 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 49, ſſ)8.40 391.60 --------------|--------------- Do.
89,847. 23 10,085. 42 99,932.65 67.35 30,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
39,949.97 8, 103. 16 55,053. 13 4,946.87 --------------|--------------. DO.
71,224.36 834. 50 72,058. 86 2,941. 14 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
32,070.93 29,840.71 61,920. 64 3,079.36 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
43,830.35 83,001. 15 169,331.50 5,668.50 --------------|--------------- 0.
49,853. 53 |............... 49,853. 53 14%. 47 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
34,221.02 49, 758. 55 113,599.76 3,400.24 |--------------|--------------- DO.
15,264.03 80,224.50 95,488. 53 4,511. 47 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
60,980.89 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68,480.89 6,519. 11 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
50,295.78 12,522.40 62,818. 18 2, 181.82 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
- - - - - - - - - - sº e º ºs 52,216.00 67,716.00 2,284.00 10,000.00 |... ------------ I)0.
- - - - - - - - - e º me s is 46,036.00 55,036.00 - - - - - - . . . . . . . . . 18,000.00 13,036.00 DO.
49,664. 25 8,051.05 57,715.30 7,284.70 |--------------|-------------- ... º. DO.
184.00 57,007.00 67,691.00 |............... 50,000.00 47,691.00 Do.
52,085. 62 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63.223. 12 1,776.88 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
9,279.82 38, 442.90 47,722.72 2,277. 28 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
53,226,45 6,023.65 59,250. 10 749.90 --------------|--------------- DO.
14 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON


-- - - - • • Amount Armount
Location. Buildings. Class of Work. Limit of COSt. appropriated expended for
- w - "|Site and land.
Quincy, Mass....... Post office and | Building . . . . . . . . . $80,000.00 $80,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
customhouse.
Raleigh, N. C. - - - - - - Post office and | Extension. . . . . . . . 225,000.00 225,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
#3 City, S. Dak. Post office........ Building. --------. 100,000.00 100,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Red Oak, Iowa. . . . .]----- do----------------- do------------ 75,000.00 75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Reidsville, N. C. . . . . Post office and Additional 1 a n d 35,000.00 35,000.00 $500.00
courthouse. and extension.
Richford, Vt. . . . . . . . POSt. t º and Site and building. . . . 74,000.00 74,000.00 7,000.00
Cl1STOIIlſlollS0.
Richmond, Va. . . . . . Post office, court- Additional land 1,250,000.00 800,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
house, and cus- and building. s
tomhouse.
Riverside, Cal....... Post office........ Site and building... 110,000.00 110,000.00 12,500.00
Rochelle, Ill. -------|---- ido-...-------- uilding---------- 55,000.00 55,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Rochester, N. H. . . . . . . . . do------------|----- O - - - - - - - - - - - - 75,000.00 75,000.00 ||--------------
Rock Springs, Wyo-j-...-- do------------ Site and building.. 90,000.00 90,000.00 10,500.00
Rocky Mount, N. C.|..... do----------------- 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - 86,000.00 56,000.00 11,000.00
Rolla, Mo.----------|-----do. . . . . ------- Building. --------. 50,000.00 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Roswell, N. Mex.... Post office and Site and building...| 125,000.00 125,000.00 1.00
courthouse.
St. Louis, Mo. . . . . . . Post office...... --|----- do------------ 1,522,550.00 1,522,550.00 356,748.39
Salem, Ohio. ... ----|----- 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do... ---------- 85,000.00 85,000.00 17,000.00
Salina, Kans. -- - - - - - Post office and | Additional land 70,000.00 70,000.00 8,500.00
courthouse. . and extension. - -
San Diego, Cal. . . . . . Post t º: and Site and building... 235,000.00 235,000.00 15,207. 30
CllSUOIO IlollSe.
San Francisco, Cal... Customhouse.----- Building. --------- 1,750,000.00 | 1,750,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
0 - - - - - - - - - - - ---| Subtreasury.------|- - - - - do------------ 500,000.00 500,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
San Jose, Cal. ... . ...] IPost office...... --| Extension, etc.... 41,000.00 41,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
San Juan, P. R. . . . . Post office and | Building. ... . . . . . . 457,000.00 457,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
San Juan, P. R. ....| Quarantine station | Building, etc. . . . . 49,700.00 49, 700.00 |.......... ----
San Marcos, Tex.... Post Office........ Building-......... 50,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
Santa Barbra, Cal...|..... do------------ Site and building -| 130,000.00 130,000.00 1.00
Savannah, Ga.------|----- do------------ Lookouts, extend- 2,500.00 2,500.00 |..............
1ng O
Searcy, Ark---------|----- do------------ Building-...-----. 45,000.00. 45,000.00 -------------.
Sewickley, Pa.......|..... do- ---------|----- do------------ 60,000.00 60,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Shamokin, Pa. ------|----- do------------|----- do------------ 75,000.00 75,000.00 |..............
Shelbyville, Tenn...|..... do------------|----- do------ - - - - - - 60,000.00 55,000.00 |..............
Shreveport, JLa...... Post office and . . . . . do------------ A 200,000.00 200,000.00 |..............
Courthouse.
Sistersville, W. Va..] Post office... . . . . . . . . . . O - - - - - - - - - - - - 70,000.00 70,000.00 |..............
Somerset, Ky-------|----- do ----------- Site and building. 65,000.00 65,000.00 8,000.00
South Chicago, Ill...]..... 0------------| Building---------. 150,000.00 150,000.00 |..............
Springfield, Mo....”. Post office and | Extension. . . . . . . . 100,000.00 100,000.00 |..............
Courthouse. -
Springfield, Tenn. - Post office. . . . . . . . ilding---------. 45,000.00 45,000.00 |-------------.
Steelton, På---------|----- do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 75,000.00 18,300.00
Stevens Point, Wis...... do------------|----- do------------ 65,000.00 65,000.00 9,750.00
Suffolk, Va.---------|-...- do------------|----- do------------ 87,000.00 87,000.00 12,000.00
Sulphur $gº. tº º is tº sº. do------------|----- do------------ 50,000.00 50,000.00 2,500.00
Sumpter, S.C.------|-.... do------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 70,000.00 6,024.23
Sycamore, Ill. ------|-...- do------------|----- do------------ 60,000.00 45,000.00 10,000.00
facoma, Wash...... Post office, Court- | Building . . . . . . . . . 500,000.00 500,000.00 |..............
house, and cus-
tomhouse.
Talladega, Ala-..... Post office. . . . . . . . Site and building.. 80,000.00 80,000.00 15,000.00
Tarboro, N. C. ......]..... do------------|----- do------- * * * * * 75,000.00 50,000.00 12,000.00
Temple, Tex........]-...- do-----------. Building. . . . . . . . . . 70,000.00 70,000.00 |..............
Terrell, Tex.........|..... do - - - - ---...--| Site and building.. 50,000.00 50,000.00 2,500.00
Texarkana, Tex.....] Courthouse........]. . . . . do------------ 120,000.00 120,000.00 9,397.25
Three Rivers, Mich. Post office.........' . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 50,000.00 12,000.00
Tifton, Ga. . . . . . . ...|----. do------------ Building.......... 50,000.00 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Topeka, Kans.......| Post office and Extension.... 100,000.00 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- º Courthouse.
Traverse City, Mich. Post office and . . . . . do------------ 50,000.00 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Customhouse.
Trenton, N. J....... Post office and . . . . . do------------ 175,000.00 175,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Courthouse.
Troy, Ala.---------. Post office.........] Building. . . . . . . . . . 40,000.00 40,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tupelo, Miss--------|-----do------------ Site and building - 60,000.00 20,000.00 10,000.00
Union, S.C.---------|-----do------------|---.. do------------ 60,000.00 60,000.00 11,000.00
Union City, Tenn........ do------------|----- do------------ 50,000.00 50,000.00 5,456.66
Urbana, Ill.... . . . . . . . . . . . do. -----------|----- do. . . . . . . . . . . . 80,000.00 70,000.00 12,000.00
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 15
1 Surplus fund.
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
STRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.
| Amount e Total e Amount -
expended for º expended and ſº to be ap-, Deficiency. Date of act.
buildings. * Outstanding. ~~. propriated.
$79,316. 50 |--------------- $79,316, 50 $683.50 --------------|--------------. June 30, 1906
182,489. 20.| $33,137.04 215,626. 24 9,373. 76 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
97,755.76 683. 00 98,438.76 1,561.24 --------------|--------------- Do.
56,862.38 12,514.30 69,376.68 5,623.32 --------------|--------------- Do.
33,380. 90 631. 00 34,511.90 488. 10 --------------|--------------- DO.
49,783.53 17,216.47 74,000.00 ---------------|--------------|---. . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
782,998.44 994. 00 783,992.44 16,007. 56 || $450,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
93,817.89 1,370.00 107,687.89 2,312. 11 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
48,704. 66 6,057.47 54,762. 13 237.87 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
49,903.05 21,260.30 71, 163.35 3,836.65 |--------------|--------------- Do.
74,805. 39 497. 00 85,802.39 4, 197.61 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
11S. 00 64,654.00 75, 772.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30,000.00 $19,772.00 June 25, 1910
28, 145. 14 18,303. 62 46,448.76 3,551 24 |--------------|--------------- O.
122, 123.47 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 122, 124.47 2,875. 53 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
1, 162,919. 40 1,935. 50 | 1,521,603.29 946.71 --------------|--------------- June 6, 1902
29,419. 27 35,875. 24 82,294.51 2,705. 49 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
41,375.58 20, 124.42 70,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
216,683. 28 1,282.40 233,172.98 1,827.02 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
1,592,817.53 8,105.00 | 1,600,922.53 3,482. 21 |-------------- 1145,595.26 June 6, 1902
369,901.35 75, 192.65 445,094.00 54,906.00 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
37,592. 57 500.00 38,092.57 2,684.00 ||-------------. 1 223. 43 June 30, 1906
439,614.01 7,934.06 447,548.07 9,451.93 |--------------|--------------- IDO.
46,348.61 345, 00 46,693.61 3,006.39|--------------|--------------- Apr. 28, 1904
49,677.99 4. 40 49,682. 39 317.61 |........ * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - May 30, 1908
110,279. 10 17,077.91 127,358.01 2,641.99 |--------------|--------------- T)0. •
983.61 |--------------- 983. 61 1,516. 39 |--------------|--------------- Aug. 24, 1912
16,477.63 26,892.80 43,370.43 1,629. 57 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
56,561.02 466. 40 57,027.42 2,972.58 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
71,210.97 450.00 71,660.97 3,339.03 |--------------|--------------- T}o.
170. 00. 56,262.00 56,432.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 1,432.00 || June 25, 1910
196,214.90 1,724.00 197,938.90 2,061.10 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
55,471.39 11,243.21 66,714.60 3,285.40 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
53,529.89 390.00 61,919.89 3,080. 11 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
128,891.47 | 15, 514.50 144,405.97 5,594.03 |--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
71,990.18 26, 129.10 98,119.28 1,880. 72 |--------------|--------------- Do.
29, 135.53 15,593.65 44, 729. 18 270.82 --------------|--------------- Do.
56, 177.66 150, 00 74,627.66 372.34 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
52,492.27 400.00 62,642.27 2,357.73 |--------------|--------------- DO.
67,166.72 186.85 79,353.57 7,646.43 |--------------|--------------- Do.
42, 113.81 5, 195. 74 49,809. 55 190-45 --------------|--------------- Do..
56,850. 23 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 62,874.46 7,125. 54 ... ------... • * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * June 30, 1906
24,809. 89 23, 147.90 57,957. 79 |--------------- 15,000.00 12,957.79 June 25, 1910
499,240.81 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 499,240.81 759.19 --------------|--------------- Mar. 3, 1903
64,512.45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 79,512.45 487.55 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
13,375.50 44,613.61 69,989. 11 ||--------------- 25,000.00 19,989. 11 June 25, 1910
67,683.36 870. 70 68,554.06 | 1,445.94 |--------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
45,518.55 154. 34 48,172.89 1,827. 11 |--------------|--------------- Do.
109,641.61 675, 00 119,713.86 286.14 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
1,303.38 45, 182.70 58,486.08 ............... 10,000.00 8,480.08 || June 25, 1910
49,928. 11 21.00 49,949. 11 50.89 --------------|--------------- O.
73,335.91 25,441.98 98,777.89 1,222.11 --------------|--------------- Mar. 4, 1911
37,835.45 |............... 37,835.45 12,164.55 --------------|--------------. June 25, 1910
174,331. 75 |............... 174,331.75 668.25 --------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
39,654.32 -...----------- 39,654.32 345.68 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
* * * * * * * * * * * * * 47,007.75 57,007. 75 |............... 40,000.00 37,007.75 June 25, 1910
48,667.88 5.00 59, 672.88 327. 12 --------------|--------------. May 30, 1908
43,051.43 400.00 48,901.43 1,098.57 --------------|--------------- Do.
34,882.65 40,498.00 77,380.65 '............... 10,000.00 7,380.65 June 25, 1910

16 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CON

- A mount Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of work. |Limit of cost. inted, expended for
* appropriated. §§. i.i.
Valdosta, Ga-- - - - - - - Post Office - - - - - - - - Building. --- - - - - - - $125,000.00 || $125,000.00 |. . . . . . . * * * * * * =
Versailles, Ky-------|- . . . . do------------ Site and building. . 50,000.00 50,000.00 $5,144.76
Vicksburg, Miss..... Post office and Extension.... . . . . . 110,000.00 110,000.00 j. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse. -
Victoria, Tex......... . . . . do------------ Site and building. . 95,000.00 95,000.00 6,000.00
Wabash, Ind--------| Post office---------|- - - - - do------------ 80,000.00 80,000.00 9,000.00
Wahpeton, N. Dak. . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 50,000.00 50,000.00 6,000.00
Walla Walla, Wash. Post office and j. . . . . do------------ 140,000.00 140,000.00 5,000.00
Courthouse.
Wallingſord, Conn. - Post office.... . . . . . . . . . . do-----------. 95,000.00 95,000.00 24,000.00
Warrensburg, Mo...|... . . . do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000.00 i. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
g -
Washington, D.C.--| Bureau Tºngraving Site and building. . 2,880,000.00 2,880,000.00 396,512.40
- and Printing -
(new). - -
Do. ------------- Bureau Engraving Enlargement. . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
and Printing -
power plant.
D0-------------- Bureau Engraving | Conduit and wir- 29,500.00 29,500.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
§ and Printing ing, etc. -
(old).
D0. . . . . . . . . ----- Flygienic Labora- || Additional build- 25,000.00 25,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
t;Ory. ing.
D0-------------- |Post *moe.... . . . . . Site and building...] 3, 485,000.00 || 3,485,000.00 450, 189.00
Washington, N.C.--| Post office and . . . . . do------------ 140,000.00 140,000.00 15,020.83
Courthouse.
Watertown, S. D. . . . Post office.............. do. ----------- 90,000.00 90,000.00 3,050.01
Watertown, W is... -|... -- do. . . . ;------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 65,000 00 . . . . . . ** * * * * * * *
Waterville, Me... ----|- . . . . do------------ Site and building--| 120,000.00 120,000.00 34,600.00
Waukegan, Ill:------|-...- do. ---------------- do------------ 95,000.00 95,000.00 20,067. 55
Waukesha, Wis. ----|..... do. ----------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 75,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Waxahachi , Tex..... . . . . do. . . . .------- Site and building.. 60,000.00 60,000.00 3,000.00
WaycroSS, Ga. . . . . . . . . . . . do... -------------- do. . . . .------- 82,500.00 82,500.00 12,478.48
Weatherford, Tex. . . . . . . . do. . . . .-------| Building. --------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 i.......... ----
Wel.ington, Kans...|. . . . . do. . . . . ------- Site and building. . 65,000.00 65,000.00 6, 500.00
Weste ly, R. [... . . . . . . . . . do. . . . --------|----- do. . . . .------- 100,000.00 100,000.00 20,000.00
Westfield, Mass. . . . . . . . . . do. . . . .-------|----- do. . . . .------- 75,000.00 75,000.00 17,500.00
West Point, Miss......... do. . . . -------- Building... ------. 50,000.00 50,000.00 |..... . . . . . . . . .
Willimanti, CCInn.--|- . . . . do. . . . -------- Site and building. . 75,000.00 7 o, UU0.00 10,046. 35
Williston, N. Dak. . . . . . . . do. -----------|----- do.... -------- 100,000.00 95,000.00 10,000.00|
Winchester, Ky. . . . . . . . . . do----------------- do. . . . .------- 100,000.00 100,000.00 14,025.31
Winchester, Tenn...]. . . . . do. . . . .-------|----- do. . . . .------- 57,300.00 42,300.00 8,800.00
Winchester, Va.-----|- . . . . do... ---------|----- do... --------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 16,028.50
Winfield, Kans...: ...|... . . do------------|----- do. ----------- 75,000.00 31,000.00 11,000.00
Winston-Salem, N.C. . . . . . do------------ Additional land 250,000.00 || 250,000.00 48,250.00
and extension.
Woburn, Mass.---- |..... do. ----------. Building.......... 60,000.00 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Woonsočket, R. I. --|..... do------------ Site and building. - 120,000.00 120,000.00 35,065.76
Wooster, Ohio..... * * * * * = ~ * do. . . . .------- Building.......... 65,000.00 65,000.00 |............. -
Wytheville, Va.-----|-----do.....-------|----- do. . . . -------- 60,000.00 35,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Xenia, Ohio...:------|-...- do. . . . .-------|----- do... --------- 65,000.00 65,000.00 |............. .
Yazoo City, Miss.... . . . . . do. . . . .------- Site and building. . 60,000.00 60,000.00 8,273.88
York, Pa....... • - - - - I • - - - - do. ----------- Additional land 300,000.00 300,000.00 33,045.00
and building.
Total.---------|--------------------|----------- - - - - - - - - - 66,617,449.81 |63,846,437.05 5,209,761.75
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
STRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.


Amount --d- r -- ~13
expended for º
buildings. e
$114,666.48 |...............
41,124.03 ||---------------
83,619. 19 $15,617.36
80,946.33 5,000.00
69,164.76 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
5,387. 19 36,906.58
133,365.41 5. 25
68,393.87 449.00
61,345.63 734. 35
2,466,380.53 16,448.00
32,649.44 16, 106.36
19,984.77 9,508.85
13,144.81 11,701.23
3,000,200. 65 34,268.43
119,574. (M. 4,993. 00
82,986.85 10. 75
61,383. 31 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
S1,352.83 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
74,371.05 488. 00
65,492. 76 8,269.88
54,697. 52 1, 107.00
65,914. 40 440,00
47, 730. 88 16,065.53
57, 748.54 '375. 00
78, 10.S. 39 400. 00
57,250.05 247. 00
49,568. S5 287. 00
(3,870. 36 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
50,567. 52 37,913. 19
S0,771. 72 570. 00
7, 735.98 37,693. 97
47,578. 95 406. 50
52. 45 54,038. 00
91, S95. 74 103,743. 64
\
57, 406. S7 16. 00
$4,277.31 400. 00
62, tiſ)4.58 - 15]. 60
75. 00 54,421.00
44,982. 55 15,761. 09
49, 7S4. 22 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
266, 909. 69 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
49,036,391.37 9,419, 622.43
Total * * ge Amount " . - . . . . .
expended and | ſº to be ap- Deficiency. Date of act.
outstanding. sº propriated. e
$114,666.48 || $10,333.52 |..............|............... June 30, 1906
46,268.79 || 3,731.21 |--------------|--------------- Do.
99,236.55 | 10,763.45 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910.
'91,946.33 3,053.67 --------------|--------------. May 30, 1908
78, 164.76 1,835.24 |--------------|--------------- Do.
48,293.77 1,706.23 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
138,370.66 1,029.34 ----------------------------- May 30, 1908
92,842.87 2, 157. 18 l--------------|--------------- Do.
62,079.98 2,920.02 --------------|--------------- Do.
2,879,340.93 659.07 --------------|--------------- May 27, 1908
48,755.80 1,244.20 --------------|--------------- Aug. 24, 1912
29,490.62 0.38 --------------|--------------. May 25, 1914
24,846.04 153.96 ---------------...----------. June 23, 1913
3,484,658.08 341.92 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
139, 587.84 412. 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
86,047. 61 3,962. 39 l-...-----------|... . . . . . . . . . . . . T}O.
61,383.31 3,616. 69 |--------------|--- . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
115,952.83 4,047. 17 --------------|--------------- T)0.
94,926. 60 73. 40 k--------------|--------------- June 30, 1906
73,762. 64 1,237, 36 |--------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
58,804.52 1, 195.48 --------------|----------- . . . . May 30, 1908
78,832. SS 3,645. 60 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 $21.52 })0.
63,796.41 1,203.59 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
64, 623.54 376.46 ----------------------------. May 30, 1908
98,508. 39 1,491.61 --------------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . I)0.
74,997.05 2.95 --------------|--------------. JDO.
49, S55. S5 144. 15 l--------------|--------------- DO.
73,916. 71 i,083.29 |--------------|--------------. June 30, 1906
98,480. 71 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5,000.00 3,480. 71 || June 25, 1910
95,367.03 4,632.97 --------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . .... June 30, 1906
54,229.85 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000.00 11,929.85 June 25, 1910
(4,013. 95 936.05 --------------|-----------. . . . . June 30, 1906
65,090. 35 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44,000.00 34,090. 45 June 25, 1910
243,839. 38 6, 11%. 62 --------------|--------------. T)0.
57,222. S7 2,577. 13 --------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
119,743.07 256, 93 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
62,756. 1S 2,243. S2 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
54,506.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000.00 19,506.00 DO.
Ö0, 743. 64 4,256. 36 --------------|--------------. DO.
58,058.10 1,941.90 -----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
299,954.69 45.81 --------------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
63,605,775.55 1,585,629.86|2,771,612.76 |{**ś }. * * * * * * * * e
72785––15—2
! Surplus fund,
18
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
RECAPITULATION OF PUBLIC BUILDINGS IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914.
Limit of cost of sites and buildings
£xpended for
Expended for buildings................
§ (sites and land) -
* * * * * ... 49,036,301.37
sº e º º ºs ºs e s sº as ºs s. me = en e s = e º ºs ºs s ºs º sº es e º sº tº gº tº e º sº e º e sº e º sº e º ºs º is sº e º ºs e º e ºs
$5,200,761.75
Outstanding liabilities on account of buildings,
etc.------------------------------------------ 9,419,622.43
• Total expended and outstanding........ 63,665,775. 55
Amount carried to surplus fund............ --- 153,438.66
Total.------------------------------------------------ $63,819,214.21
Balance available on appropriations........... 1,585,629.86
I,0SS deſicits, to wit:
Albany, Oreg........---------- $4,289.60
Amarillo, Tex.................. 120,946.00
Arkansas City, Kans........... 31,913.00
Augusta, Ga. . . . . . . . . . . . ------- 30,759.92
§ainbridge, Ga---------------- 13, 106.73
Bangor, Me-------------------- 18,727. 11
fºodford, Pa.....I.I.I.I.I.I.I. 39,861. 18
Berkeley, Cal.................. 4,922. 44
Cadillac, Mich.................. 28,339.00
Camden, S. C. ----------------- 5,399.10
Carnegie, Pa........... -------- 32,742.75
Chico, Cal............ ---------- 32, 150.00
Collinsville, Ill................. 31,336.00
Delavan, Wis.................. 4,688.50
Denver, Colo................... 184,459.91
De Soto, Mo.................... ,238.0
Excelsior Springs, Mo.......... 18, 621.66
Fulton, Ky-------------------- 31,961.40
Garden City, Kans............. 41,453.00
Gastonia, N. C. .............. --- 8,244. 12
Georgetown, Ky............... 34,900.00
Grass Valley, Cal....... -------- 6,347. 40
Greeley, Colo................... 18,225.00
Grenada, Miss.................. 22,622.56
Hampton, Va........ ---...---- 18,923.62
Flanſord, Cal................... 13,570.00
Hilo, Hawaii................... 39,722.00
Holland, Mich................. 39,887.00
Huntingdon, Pa............... 13,657.01
Jackson, Ky................... 27,099.60
Jellico, Tenn................... 22,675.00
Jennings, La..........--------. 23,998.02
Jonesboro, Ark................. - 12, 76
Laſayette, La........---------- 7,095.78
Lake City, Minn............... 25,740.00
McPherson, Kans.............. 18,807. 74
Milwaukee, Wis................ 21,435.00
iſinot, N. bak....I.I.I.I.I.I. 10, 134.93
Mobile, Ala.................... 52,072. 10
Narragansett Pier, R. I........ 37,396.00
New Haven, Conn............. 165,480.49
New Rochelle, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . 120. 45
Qrange, N. J.------------------- 4, 171.50
‘Osage City, Kans.............. 10,621. 20
Portland, Ind..........-------- 13,036.00
Princeton, Ill.................. 47,691.00
Rocky Mount, N. C. ........... 19,772.00
Shelbyville, Tenn.............. 1,432.00
$ycamore fli.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I. 12,957.79
Tarboro, S.C.I.I.I.I.I.I.I. 19,089. 11
Three Rivers, Mich............ 8, 486.08
Tupelo, Miss................... 37,007.75
Urbana, Ill....... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7,380.65
Williston, N. Dak.............. 3,480.71
Winchester, Tenn.............. 11,920.85
winſicia Kans...I.I.I.I.I.I. 34,000. 45
Wytheville, V a................ 10, 506.00
1,558,407.02
Excess of available balance over deficits.................... dºs 27,222.84
Total amount appropriated.------------------------------------------
Total amount to be appropriated............. tº ºs e º e º 'º º e º ſº. tº º ºs º e º sº tº sº e º º ºs
$63,846,437.05
2,771,012.76
$66,617,449.81
66,617,449.81
20 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED BUT
4 & . Amount ex-
* * * * * Limit of Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of work. •+ pended for
COSt. appropriated. site and land.
Aberdeen, Wash. ... Post office... . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . $112,500.00 --------------|--------------
Akron, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building...| 400,000.00 $60,000.00 $60,000.00
Albertville, Ala.....]. . . . . do----- - - - - - - - ite--------------- 5,000.00 , vvv, 2 v - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Albia, Iowa..... ----|----- do------------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . A - - - - -
Albion, Mich........|- - - - - do------------ Site and building.. 70,000.00 14,000.00 11,000.00
Aledo, Ill-----------|----- do------------|----- do------------ 65,000.00 12,250.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Alexandria, La...... Post office and | Extension... . . . . . . 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Courthouse.
Alliance, Nehr..... ... Post office... . . . . . . 'Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 |--------------|--------------
Alliance, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building...] 135,000.00 115,000.00 28,000.00
Altus, Okla ---------|----- do------------|----- do------------ 82,500.00 15,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Amherst, Mass. . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 80,000.00 15,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Andalusia. Ala. . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do. . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Anoka, Minn............. do-----------. Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 |--------------|--------------
Antigo, Wis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Apalachicola, Fla... Post office and Site and building-- 75,000.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
customhouse.
Ardmore, Okla. . . . . . Post office and . . . . . do------------ 150,000.00 55,000.00 8,000.00
Courthouse.
Argenta, Ark. . . . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . . Site-----. . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 10,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Arkadelphia, Ark---|--|--|-do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 --------------|--------------
Ashland, Ky. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 100,000.00 ||--------------|--------------
Ashland, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building. 125,000.00 25,000.00 13,000.00
Athens, Tenn.-------|----- do------------|-----do------------ 50,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Atlantá, Tex..... • - - I - - - - - do------------ Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 4,000.00
Attalla, Ala---------|----- do------------|-- ---do------------ 5,000.00 5,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Attleboro, Mass.....|... -- do------------ Building ---------- 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Aurora, Mo. --------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 6,975.00
Aurora, Nebr............ do------------ Building.......... 50,000.00 --------------|--------------|.
Bad Axe, Mich......]-.... do------------ Site and building. . 55,000.00 4,800.00 |.------------.
Bakersfield, Cal... --|--...- do------------ uilding---------- 135,025.00 25.00 --------------
Baltimore, Wid. Immigrant station. Site and building. - 550,000.00. 110,000.00 13,250.00
Barbourville, Ky.... Post office. . . . . . . . Site--------------- 5,000.00 4,300.00 --------------
Barnesville, Ga. . . . . . . . . . do------------ Building.......... 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Bartow, Fla. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Basin, Wyo...... ---|----- do------------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - --|----- '- - - - - - - - -
Batavia, Ill.--------|----- do------------ Site and building.. 95,000.00 23,950.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Batavia. N. Y...... . . . . . . do------------ Building - - - - - - - - - - 85,000.00 5,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . .... • *
fath, N.Y....I.I.I.I.I. do------------ Site--------------- 15,000.00 13,000.00 13,000.00
Bay City, Tex......|..... do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 --------------|--------------
Bayonne, N. J......|..... do------------|----- do------------ 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Beardstown, Ill.....|..... do------------ Site and building. - 55,000.00 18,000.00 10,001.00
I3eaufort, S.C.. . . . . . Post office and . . . . . 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
customhouse. -
Beaver Dam, Wis...| Post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 80,000.00 15,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Beaver I’alls, Pa....|..... do------------ Extension. . . . . . . . 5,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Beeville, Tex. . . . ...|..... do------------ Building . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Belleſourche, S. Dak |..... do------------ Site and building-. 75,000.00 4,500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Belton, Tex....... --|- - - - - do------------ Building . . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 --------------|--------------
Bemidji, Minn ......|..... do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 9,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
I3ent on Harbor, Post office and Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000.00 25,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mich. Customhouse.
Berlin, N. H. - - - - - - - - Tºost office. . . . . . --| Building ... . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Berwick, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building-- 80,000.00 || 11,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bethlehem, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ ite--------------- 20,000.00 20,000.00 19,001.00
Birmingham, Ala...|..... do------------ Additional land 1,000,000.00 185,000.00 185,000.00
and building.
Blackwell, Okla. . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 50,000.00 15,000.00 7,500.00
Bluffton, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- O - - - - - - - - - - - - 70,000.00 ----------------------------
Boise, Idaho. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . -------- Additional land 125,000.00 125,000.00 80,000.00
and extension.
IBonne Terre, Mo. . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Boston, Mass. . . . . . . Appraisers’ stores. Site and building... 1,250,000.00 900,000.00 444,052.88
Do-------------- Immigration Sta- || Building. . . . . . . . . . 310, 178.98 310, 178.98 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
;IOIl.
Boyne City, Mich... Post office. . . . . . . . ite. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 10,000.00 8,000.00
13ozeman, Mont. . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 45,000.00 7,500.00
Branford, Conn. . . . . . . . . . do. -----------|-----do------------ 55,000.00 11,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
l3rattleboro, Vt. . . . . Post office and | . do . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000.00 90,000.00 25,000.00
courthouse.
Bronham, Tex...... Post oſſico. . . . . . . . Building.. . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
T3rinkley, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site--------------- 5,000.00 4,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
T}ronx (N. Y.), N. Y. |. . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 285,000, 00 285,000.00 275,989.25
Brooklyn (N. Y.), . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Additional land, 350,000.00 350,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . .
N. Y. repair and re-
- 4. model building.
Bryan, Tex... . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building... 50,000.00 46,000.00 5,750.00
Buckhannon, W.Va. . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 --------------|--------------
I3uena Vista, Va. ...|..... do. ----------- Site------. . . . . . . . . 5,000.00 ---------...--|--------------
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 21
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914.
. . Amount - g Total *
• . Outstanding Available Amount to be *
º,º: liabilities. º:º balances. appropriated. Surplus ſund. Date of act.
bº - :
--------------|---------------|---------------|---------------| $112,500.00 --------------- Mar. 4, 1913
s sº e s = ºr sº me • * = * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * $60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . - - - - -] 340,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * * * ------|---------------|---------------| $5,000.00 --------------|---------------| Po. .
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - : ,000.00 --------------|--------------- Do. º
as s e º is a s as sº e º sº as a s = * * * * * * * * * s = * = 11,000.00 3,000.00 56,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * $12,250, 00 12, 250.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 52, 750, 00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - - - - - - - , - - - - - - - - I •,• - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 65,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
a se e s as s as e s ºs e = s. s sº e s = * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 75,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
s e = e s sº s º ºs e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 28,000.00 87,000.00 20,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
s = e s tº e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * .* * * * - - 15,000.00 67,500.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
a s e s = e º is sº a s a - sº I s = e = * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 15,000.00 65,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . .] Do.
e is s e º ºs e º s sº * * * * 4,975. 00 4,975.00 25. 00 45,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s = < e s = e = * ~ * ~ * * : * * * * * * * * * * = a, e s = 1 = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 50,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * ~ * ~ * = - - - - - - | * * * * * * * * * * * * = - - I - - - - - - - - - * * * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 70,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
sº s º ºs s = e s as as e º e s i s s º sº e s e º 'º s = e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 67,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
$120.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8, 120.00 46,880. 00 95,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
s as sº as a m = * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,000.00 --------------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* is sº e º ºs e º ºs tº a tº º ºs 72. 00 72.00 --------------- 55,000. 00 l $72.00 || Mar. 4, 1913
as a s is a e s = * * * = * = 1 = − s. s = * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
a s sº as e. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 13,000.00 10,000.00 | 100,000.00 2,000.00 June 25, 1910
sº tº s e º e s sº tº e s sº as s 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | Mar. 4, 1913
tº gº ºs º a s = e º sº me s = e i = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,000.00 |- . . . . . ---------|-------------- 1,000.00 June 25, 1910
e sº as * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 --------------|--------------- Mar. 4, 1913
e s a se e s a s = * * * * = i e s as a sº e = * = a, s as a s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000, 00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
* * * * = e º e º ºs º ºn s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6,975.00 ---------------|-------------- 3,025.00 May 30, 1908
sº e º ºs e º s, as e s an e s is I e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * w & . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 ||---. . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * s sº as as tº e º ºs s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - 4,800.00 50,200.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
25.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.00 . . . . . . . . . . ----- 135,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO. .
75.00 445. 00 13,770.00 96,230.00 440,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
sº a s an e s = e s sº as s m sº is me as s sº e s sº e º 'º - as s a W = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,300.00 700.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1013
* * * = a s = e s = e s = e i = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
a s sº as a s a s = s = e s = e a se s = m, a s = s = e º se - I s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
a s = e s = e a s = a s = • , s = e s = * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
s sº sº e a se e s ºr e s = * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I s sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * 23,950.00 71,050.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * s tº e º sº * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 80.000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
sº e º sº sº sº º ºs º ºs e sº tº s | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 13,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 ---. . . . . . . . . . . .] Do.
• - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 60,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
s = = a m = as sº as e º me e s sº e s is sº sº as sº sº sº sº sº s = e i s sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
198.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10, 199.00 7,801.00 37,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * is sº e º s 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
sº a s e º s = * * * * * * i = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 15,000.00, 65,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
s sº sº e º ºs º ºr as as we se º s I e º ºs s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 50,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
& eº as e s as a s tº e º as * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,500.00 70, 500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * = • - e = * * * = • * ~ I = • = • * * * * * = - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 55,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s as sº se a se sº e º e s sº º e º ºs s as * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9,000.00 | 66,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . T)o,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I e < * * * * * * * * * * * * * 25,000.00 --------------|--------------- DO.
• - -, - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - -, -----|---------------|-- . . . . . . ::::::- $3,000.00 --------------| P0.
tº gº sº tº s ºr s a º ºs e º sº. - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11,000.00 || 69,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
ge º sº e s sº º ºs s as a sº e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 19,001.00 ---------------|-------------- 999.00 June 25, 1910
e sº s º is a e s sº sº e s is e i s = e = * * * * * * * * * * * 185,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 815,000.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
as sº e º a ºn as s = * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 7,500.00 35,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* = a - a. s. s. as a - e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = I s = e = * * * * * * * * * * * * 70,000.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
1,618.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 81,618.00 43,382.00 --------------|--------------- May 30, 1908
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000, 00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
877. 36 3,411. 22 448,341.46 451, 658. 54 350,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
e e s e = * * * * * * * * * i s = e = s = • * * * * * * * = 1 = • * * * * * * .......] 310, 178.98 . . . . . . . . . . . ...|... . . . . . . . . . . . .] Oct. 22, 1913
sº gº ºs º ºs s = s. * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,000.00 l---...---------|-------------. 2,000.00 June 25, 1910
90.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7,500.00 37,410.00 30,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
sº s sº tº e º sº º sº s ºr e = * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * º ºs & º º ſº tº º ºs º º sº º sº * 11,000.00 44,000.00 |...............] Mar. 4, 1913
21.08 . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 25,021.08 64,978.92 50,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
* * * * * * * * * * * *e e s e º ºs e s = e s s = e s sº s sº I is e º ºs s ºf s = * * * * * * * 5,000.00 || 55,000.00 |...... . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* e º e º e s m e ºs e s sº sº I as sº s is a s = e s º ºs s sº * * | * s a s = * * * * * * * * * * 4,000.00 1,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* = e º sº e = * * * * * s ºr i s = º e s = e = * * * * * * * 275,989.25 9,010. 75 . . . . . . . . . . . ...|...............] May 30, 1908
* = & s a s sº e s = * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * is me • * * * * * * * * * * * 350,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
150.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,900.00 40, 100.00 4,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* e º 'º as s = as a tº s sº sº e i e s as s = e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * = • , a * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * ,000. * * * * * * * * * * = & E * * Do.



Deficiency.
22
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED BUT

* * Amount ex-
* * Limit of Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of work. COSt. appropriated. sh; § e
Buffalo, N. Y. . . . . . . Post office - - - - - - - - Vault. ------------ $8,000.00 $8,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Buffalo, Wyo.......|..... do------------ Building. --------- 62,500.00 --------------|--------------
, Burlington, N. C. . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 65,000.00 l. -------------|--------------
Burlington, Wis.....|..... do------------ Site and building.. 70,000.00 9,000.00 |..............
Butler, Mo..........]. - ... do------------|----- do------------ 60,000.00 6,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Caldwell, Idaho.....|..... do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Calumet, Mich......|..... do------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - 20,000.00 12,000.00 --------------
Cambridge, Md.....|..... do------------ Site and building.. 80,000.00 16,000.00 - - - - -.........
Cameron, Tex.......|..... do------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - 55,000.00 2,000.00 $2,000.00
Canon City, Colo-...]..... do------------ Site--------------- 15,000.00 13,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Canton, Ga. --------|----- do------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Canton, Ill. . . . . . . . . . !----do-----------. Site and building.. 85,000.00 55,000.00 12,000.00
Canton. Miss. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 20,000.00 5,300.00
Čape Charles, Va....[..... do. ----------- ite--------------- 7,500.00 3,700.00 --------------
Cape Fear, N. C. . . . . . Quaranfine Station. Wharf. . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000.00 25,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Caribou, Me... . . . . . . . Post oſſice... - - - - - - Building.......... 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - , * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Carlinville, Ill.......]..... do------------ ite--------------- 10,000.00 8,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Carroll, Iowa. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building.. 70,000.00 8,000.00 ||--------------
Carrollton, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site.-------------- 7,000.00 5,000.00 -------------.
Caruthersville, Mo. . . . . . . do------------|----. O- - - - - - • - - - - - 5,000.00 3,250.00 --------------
Cedar Falls, Iowa...|..... do------------ Site and building.. 95,000.00 10,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Central City, Ky....|..... do------------ ite--------------- 7,500.00 7,500.00 ||------------..
Central City, Nebr. . . . . . . do.. * * * * * Site and building.. 55,000.00 6,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
Centralia, Mo.......l..... do-----------. ite------- -------- 7,500.00 6,000.00 6,000.00
Chadron, Nebr......|..... do----------- ... Building. . . . . . . . . . 110,000.00 --------------|--------------
Chamberlain, S.Dak. . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 60,000.00 3,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Chandler, Okla......|..... do-----------------do------------ 55,000.00 4,700.00 |........ - - - - - -
Chanute, Kans......l..... do----------------- do------------ 75,000.00 33,000.00 13,000.00
Chapel Hill, N. C. . . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 60,000.00 8,500.00 ||--------------
Chariton, Iowa. . . . . . . . . . . do. -----------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 5,800.00 5,800.00
Charles City, Iowa...|..... do. . . . .------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 70,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Charleston, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building. 75,000.00 9,000.00 |..............
Charles Town, W.Va). . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 75,000.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Charlotte, Mich......|..... do. ----------- Building.......... 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Charlotte, N.C. ..... Post office and | . . . . . do------------ 250,000.00 225,000.00 |..............
courthouse.
Chattanooga, Tenn....... 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - Extension.-------- 55,000.00 --------------|--------------
Cheboygan, Mich.... Post office......... Site and building. 70,000.00 8,500.00 ||-----.........
Cherokee, Iowa......|..... do------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 10,600.00 |..............
Cherryvale, Kans....|..... do. . . . .-------|----. do------------ 60,000.00 4,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Chicago, Ill..........l..... do. . . . . .------ Site--------------- 50,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do------------|- ----do------------ 1,750,000.00 | 1,750,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Chillicothe, Mo...... Post office and Building.......... 130,000.00 30,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
& courthouse.
Cicero, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . Post office......... Site.-------------- 7,000.00 7,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Qlinton, Ind.........|..... do. . . . ...----- Site and building. 60,000.00 14,000.00 |..............
Clinton, S.C.............. do------------|----. O - - - - - - - - - - - - 55,000.00 5,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Cody, {{. * & e s sº e º sº e s sº e s tº e do. . . . . . .----- Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Coeur d’Alene, Idaho | Post §: and | Site and building...] 100,000.00 30,000.00 13,200.00
COUITUIlOUIS8.
Cohoes, N.Y. . . . . . . . Post office.........l.....do............ 100,000.00 40,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Coleman, Tex... . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . .------ Site.-------------. 5,000.00 1.00 --------------
Colſax, Wash. . . . . . . . ----'do------------|----. do------------ 7,000.00 7,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Columbia, S.C. . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 265,000.00 --------------|--------------
Commandhe, Tex....|..... do------------ Site and building 50,000.00 5,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Commerce, Tex......|..... do----------------- do. . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Concord, N. H. . . . . . . . . . . . do... --------- Extension.... 50,000, 00 32,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Conneaut, Ohio......}..... do------------ ite--------------- 15,000.00 15,000.00 15,000.00
Conway, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . --------|----. do. ----------- 5,000.00 2,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Cookeville, Tenn.... Post office and Site and building. 100,000.00 60,000.00 7,000.00
gº Court house. -
Cordova, Alaska.....]. . . . . do. . . . --------|----. do. ----------- 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - --|-- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Corpus Christi,Tex... Post office and ||..... do. . . . .------- 140,000.00 || 70,000.00 9,000.00
Custom house.
Coshocton, Ohio..... Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 115,000.00 16,000.00 15,000.00
Covington, Tenn. ...|..... do. . . . . .------|----- do------------ 45,000.00 39,000.00 7,000.00
("rockett, TeX. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------. Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,000.00 6,000. 0ſ) | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Cuero, Tex... . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 35, C00.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
l)allas, 'ſ ex . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------. ite-------. . . . . . . . 300,000. 00 250,000.00 250,000.00
T)anbury, Conn. . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building 115,000.00 60,000.00 35,000.00
Dawson, Ga... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 60,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
T)ecatur, Ala. . . . . . . . . . . . do-----------------. do.------------ 65,000.00 6.500.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
T)6Catur, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 9,900.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
pºuniak Springs, . . . . . do..... --------|----- do ------------ (3,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
* 191.
I]e Land, Fla. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- T3uilding. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Delphos, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . do...----------- ite--------------- 7,000.00 6,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Denton, Tex. . . . . . . . ... --do------------- Site and building. 75,000.00 4,500.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Des Moines, Iowa...] Courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . 350,000.00 75,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
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expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914—Continued.


Amount e Total
Outstanding Available Amount to be
º liabilities. º jºi... [...i.e. Surplus fund. |Date of act.
gº º sº e º ºs as s sº e º e s ∈ I e s sº e s gº is sº e s at e º 'º s : s is s m s tº is sº is me sº e º e e $8,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -|- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Aug. 1, 1914
tº gº ºs e º gº e º ºs e a ſe g sº I gº º e º sº e ºs e º sº gº tº e º sº I sº s is sº tº e º ºs e º ºs ºs s e º s is sº dº º is sº * * * * * * * * $32,500.00 ---------------| Mar, 4, 1913
e ‘gº º is tº º sº e º is e º ºs s e º e º e s tº ºs e s º ºs º e s I s e º 'º me s is is e º ºs º º ºs s \ is sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * ,000. tº º º º ºs º ºs e º 'º & tº º 'º º Do.
tº a tº º ſº tº us e º º is º ºs sº $9,000.00 $9,000.00 |............... 61,000.00 |............... Do.
tº e º ºs º is a ºn tº e º e º º ,500.00 6,500.00 ---------------| 53,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
tº e º sº s se e º ºs ºs e º ºs e I º ºs sº me me tº e º ºs e tº a s as sº I sº º ºs & s is s sº as º ºs e º e ºs 10,000.00 --------------|--------------. Do-
is sº s = e º º is e º ºs e e s as ºs e s tº e º sº tº º sº as e º sº I sº º ſº tº e º sº sº sº tº e º 'º sº º 12,000.00 8,000.00 ---------------|----. Do.
* * * * * = e º e º ºs e := * 16,000.00 16,000.00 !--------------- 64,000.00 |............... Do.
& & E = e º ºs º tº ſº gº ºs tº gº tº E gº tº º ſº e º gº tº gº tº º 2,000.00 --------------- 53,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
tº ºn e º sº e s sº º ºs º ºs e sº I s sº tº as tº sº e º us tº e º s º ºs I º ºs tº e ºs º ºs e s is º ºs º sº º 13,500.00 1,500.00 --------------. Do.
* a sº ºn s is tº sº tº sº e º sº as 5,000.00 5,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- Do.
$65.00 --------------. 12,065.00 42,935.00 30,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
60.00 i--------------- 5,360.00 14,640.00 30,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * tº gº tº gº º sº gº tº se tº gº E tº gº º gº tº º ºs º ºs e º & * * * * * * * tº e º ºs ºº e º º 3,700.00 3,800.00 ||--------...- ... Mar. 4, 1913
º & sº gº tº gº º gº gº tº gº º gº gº is gº tº dº gº tº e º e º e º ºs º gº é º E. E. º ºs º ºs & sº º sº gº tº sº 25,000.00 --------------|--------------- Aug. 1, 1914
* * * * * * * * = e º º sº e sº sº tº gº tº e º e º sº º s = e º º ºs e ºs e º 'º e e º ºs º is us e I & s & & Gº & & a s = * * * * * 50,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * e º ºs e º ºs e º ºs e º ºs e º ºs e º ºs e º e º sº I tº º tº sº * * * * * * * * * * * 8,000.00 2,000.00 --------------- Do.
& º e º sº º ºs ºg s sº º ºs º º | * * * * * * * * * * g e º 'ºe & sº º e s sº º ºs º ºs e s e e º ºs 8,000.00 62,000.00 |.......... ----- T}o.
* * * * * * * * * *s tº e º sº tº gº tº me e g º m e ºs e º ºs tº gº is ºs º ºs sº sº sº e º sº º e º is a 5,000.00 2,000.00 |...-----------. Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * is º e s s a s is m as s e º ºs s sº as sº e ºs e º ºs e s is 3,250.00 1,750.00 --------------. Do.
* * * * * * * * * s as e º sº I tº s tº e º e sº e º ºs e º sº at sº I s tº º ºs e s m e º & s sº se is º 10,000.00 85,000.00 |............... Do.
& E → *te gº º ºs º ºs e º e º ºs 7,500.00 7,500.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- Do.
sº º ºs ºs e º E g º ºs e º ſe e º ºs º ºs º ºs e º ºs e s = e º is sº I sº e º ºs ºs s as e s tº e º ºs s = 6,000.00 49,000.00 |............... Do.
tº tº e º ºs e º 'º as tº e º is sº I tº e s e º ºs º e º sº as s tº as as 6,000.00 --------------- 1,500.00 --------------- Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 110,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* = &º its g º ºs e º e º e s e I e g º ºs e g º m e ºs e º º ºs s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3,500.00 56, 500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * > * * * * * * * * * * * º º ºs º º sº e º 'º & e º ºs º is º ºs º º sº tº sº º ºs º º ºs ºº & sº 4,700.00 50,300.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
131.00 --------------- 13,131.00 19,869.00 42,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * g º ºs º sº ge 8,500.00 8,500.00 --------------- 51,500.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * is is e º se e º a sº e º I gº º 'º e s e º gº is sº e º ºs e sº 5,800.00 --------------- 64,200.00 |.... . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * s m e º sº ºn s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *e s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 70,000.00 |...... . . . . . . . . . Do.
gº tº gº tº ſº º gº sº º e º e º ºs 9,000.00 9,000.00 --------------- 66,000.00 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * g º ºs º & © tº e º ºs e º e e º ºs e sº 7,500.00 67,500.00 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * is is gº º sº as º ºs e º ºs e i s e º ºs º ºs ºs s is as sº º e º 'º sº tº ſº º is sº & sº sº e º º ºs s. se 65,000.00 |............... D9.
290.40 --------------- 290. 40 224,709.60 ,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* tº e º e º ºs e º ºs as ºn as a e º ºs e º is es e º 'º sº e s is e I e º ºs º as tº º sº tº sº us is sº me s \ is sº is tº º ºs e º tº sº º sº sº s e 55,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * = &º sº is tº e º sº & E; º ºs º gº ºs º ºs e º 'º e º gº sº º E * * * * * * tº sº & © tº º 8,500.00 61,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * g º sº s is sº gº is is s sº sº gº º ºs e º a s as e is e I tº ºn e s as * * * is sº se e s is e 10,600.00 59,400.00 |............... DO.
tº º ºs e º ºs º gº º sº º ºs º s 2,500.00 2,500.00 1,500.00 56,000.00 -.............. I)o.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * sº º ºs ºº e º 'º e º 'º e º 'º º tº tº gº º ºs e º 'º º ſº tº sº º ºs º ºs 50,000.00 --------------|--------------- DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * & e º s = e º 'º e 1,750,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
25.00 --------------- 25.00 29,975.00 100,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * g º is ºn tº sº 6,000.00 6,000.00 1,000.00 --------------|--------------. Do.
* * * * g º e º 'º º º sº e º sº & sº gº tº gº e º 'º ºs e º gº º e º ºs º gº sº º tº gº tº sº º e º º ºs 14,000.00 46,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
& º ºs e e º e º ºs e º a g º I s = e º sº e º ºs e e º ºs e º ºs I gº ºn e º ºs e º ºr ºs e º is sº us me 5,500.00 49,500.00 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * is e º is e º ºs e º e s tº sº sº e s is s sº - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 |............... Do.
* * * * * * * $ ºr sº tº s is sº l tº a sº s º is a sº s º sº tº us as us 13,200.00 16,800.00 70,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | *s is tº gº e º sº e s m ms sº sº º s * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 40,000.00 60,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
* * * g e º ºs is as s gº as * * 1.00 1.00 --------------- 4,999.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * * g º sº gº º ºs º º ºs º is tº e º ºs e º 'º gº sº e º tº gº º ºs º ºs º º E tº º ºs º is s 7,000.00 --------------|--------------- DO.
* * * * is ºn e º ºs º ºs º ºs e i º ºs º ºs º ºs e s sº gº ºn tº sº e s \ e º º ºs s a sº a wº tº we ºs º ºs e i º ºs º ºs ºn s sº tº e º se e s is sº 265,000.00 +... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
tº º ºs e º is nº e º 'º s e º e e º º ºs e º sº gº is sº sº e º ºs º ºf s tº sº s º º sº tº º is s = * * 5,000.00 45,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * g e º ºs e e g º ºs s sº a tº tº e º e ºs e º sº ſe e s sº gº tº s is tº e sº e s º ºs ºr sº º ºs s = sº tº º tº as tº se sº * * * * * * * 50,000.00 |............... Do.
e º se sº e s sº sº º ſº e º ºs e I sº e º ºs s a s tº e s is is as a sº I e º sº sº * * * * * * * * * * * 32,000.00 18,000.00 |....... . . . . . . . . June 25, 1916
* * * * * * * * * * * g º º º º e s = & sº º ºs º ºs º e º sº 15,000:00 ---------------|--------------|------------... Do.
• - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2,000. 3,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
85.00 --------------- 7,085.00 52,915.00 40,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
as º gº & as e s as sº as an as ºr as º gº tº e º ºs e ºs e º s = e = e s m e º sº tº ºr ºs º ºs s is a se s is ºs º ºs tº as as * * * * * s ºe as as sº ºn 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
189.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,189.00 60,811.00 70,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * * * * * * * * * * * * 15,000.00 1,000.00 99,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
62.00 |--------------- 7,062.00 31,938.00 6,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
Gº tº e º 'º º tº º sº º º sº º º tº se e º ºs º gº ºs º ºs e º e º se tº gº sº e º e º º ſº º ſº * * * * 6,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -]...............] Mar. 4, 1913
96.00 50.00 146.00 34,854.00 30,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 250,000.00 - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . 50,000.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
150.00 |.... ----------. 35,150.00 24,850.00 55,000.00 |............... May 30, 1908
* * * * * is º gº e º e º ºs e I is ºs is a e s sº e s s as s tº s = I as * * * is ºs ºs e º sº º e s we se 5,000.00 55,000.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6,500.00 6,500.00 - -...----------- 58,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * s e º sº e s sº se s sº I e º sº e s tº e s gº as a tº gº as as as s as tº s = * * * * * * * * * 9,900.00 100.00 --------...---. DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | *s º gº is tº gº tº sº tº gº sº gº º ºs º e s sº tº ºn tº * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 1,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
& º ºs ºs º gº º º sº gº tº º ºs e ºs e º ºs º ºs e º ºs º ºs º gº gº tº º ºs ºr sº dº as sº e º ºs ºs º ºr ºs s º ºr ºr e º ºs º ºs º ºs º me tº sº e 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * is e º gº ºs e º ºr sº º º sº sº º sº s iſ is º gº è º ºs s tº º sº sº º sº tº s 6,000.00 1,000. ( 0 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3,000.00 3,000.00 1,500.00 70,050.00 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * *s e º e º gº sº tº gº º e º is tº dº e º ſº ſº e i s = s. sº tº a dº e s º e a sº gº & 75,000.00 275,000.00 |............... DO.
:24 sun DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED BUT

- * * Amount ex-
e • * * * Limit of Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of work. •+ r + pended for
g COSt. appropriated.|sija.l.
. Des Moines, Iowa...] I’ost office and I.xtension... . . . . . . $60,000.00 $60,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . .
* * COUrthouse. §
Dickinson, N. Dak. Post office........ Building----...--- 90,000,00 --------------|--------------
Dillon, S. C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site----------. . . . . 7,500. Q0 7,500.00 7,500.00
Donora, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Site and building. . 75,000.00 13,300.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - . . .
Doºlglas, Ariz. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Tºllilding. . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Douglas, Ca------...]-...- do------------- Site and building-- 55,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Iłowagiac, Mich.......... do------------. T}uilding . . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I}ubois, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 85,000.00 ||--------------|-----. . . . . . . . .
Dunkirk, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------. 20,000.00 20,000.00 20,000.00
Durango, Colo. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Durant, Okla. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 80,000.00 10,000.00 10, 000.00
East 1.as Vegas, Post office and . . . . . do------------- 125,000, 00 18,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . .
N. Mox. ("Ollrf hollse.
East Orange, N. J...| Post office... . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 125,000.00 --------------|--------------
East Pittsburgh, Pa. . . . . . do------------- Site and building... 100,000.00 40,000.00 39,000.00
East St. Louis, Ill...| Post office and | Extension.........] 240,000.00 |--------------|------........
TOurthouse.
Eatonton, Ga. . . . . . . Post oſſice... . . . . . . Site--------------- 5,000.00 3,750.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Edenton, N. C. . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 7,500.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
El Dorado, Ark......|..... do------------------ do------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Eldorado, Kans--...----- do-------------| Site and building-- 60,000.00 5,250.00 --------------
Elizabethton, Tenn.----. do------------- Site --------------- 2,500.00 2,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Elizabethtown, Ky. . . . . . do---4--------|----. do------------ 7,500.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Elkins, W. Va. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 85,000.00 85,000.00 |- - - -.... - - - - - -
Ellensburg, Wash...|..... do------------------ do------------- 75,000.00 --------------|--------------
El Paso, Tex........|..... do-------------|----- do------------- 300,000.00 --------------|--------------
El Reno, Okla. -----|----. do...----------| Site and building... 100,000.00 25,000.00 5,900.00
Elyria, Ohio........|..... do------------. Building---------- 100,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Eminence, Ky. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------- 8,000.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Ennis, Tex..........|..... do..... . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 60,000.00 17,000.00 3,000.00
Eureka, Utah. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 50,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Eureka Springs, Ark. . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 57,500.00 31,500.00 7,500.00
Evansville, Ind....J Customhouse and | Extension......... 150,000.00 |.......... ----|-----.........
post oſfice.
Everett, Wash. . . . . . Fº office and cus- Site and building... 180,000.00 95,000.00 12,000.00
Omhouse.
Fairbanks, Alaska. . Courthouse and Additional land... 15,000.00 15,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
J&ll. - - -
Fairfield, Iowa. . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Site.-------------- 10,000.00 9,000.00 |..... - - - - - - - - -
Fairmont, Minn... . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 65,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Fallon, Nev. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 55,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Falls City, Nebr..... . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Falmouth, Ky. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------. 5,000. 00 5,000.00 5,000.00
Fargo, N. Dak. . . . . . Post office and . . . . do -- - - - - - - - - - - 25,000. 00 23.500.00 - - - - - - - -...--.
- COUrthouse. ' g
Farmington, Mo. . . . Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . do-----------. 5,000.00 --------------|----------- - - -
Farmville, Va. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building 60,000. 00 5,000.00 --------------
Fayette, Mo... . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 55,000.00 --------------|--------------
Fayetteville, Tenn. . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 50,000.00 35,000.00 8,500.00
Fitzgerald, Ga. . . . . .... • - - - - do------------------ do------------. 75,000. 00 10,000.00 10,000.00
Fordyce, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 ----------------------------
Torrest City, Ark . . . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------- 5,000. 00 4,500.00 - - - - - - - - ......
Forsyth, Ga... . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- , 000. 00 5,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Fort Atkinson, Wis. . . . . . do------------- Site and building. 60,000, 00 15,000.00 11,500.00
Fort Fairfield, Me...| Post office and . . . . . do------------- 80,000.00 18,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . .
customhouse.
Fort Morgan, Colo...| Post oſſice... . . . . . . Building . . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 |--------------|-------------.
Fort Plain, N. Y. . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building. 65,000. 00 8,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Franklin, N. EI. . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------. 90,000. 00 24,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Franklin, Pa... . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------. 100,000.00 19,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Franklin, Tenn. . . . . . . . . . do------------------ do.------------ 55,000. 00 7,450.00 |- - - - - - . . . . . . . .
l'ranklin, Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building . . . . . . . . . * 45,000.00 --------------|--------------
Fredºrick, Md.... . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 90,000.00 --------------|--------------
Frederick, Okla. . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site. ...----------. 10,000. 00 10,000.00 ----..........
Frémont, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Puilding . . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 -...----------|--------------
Front oyal, Va. . . . . . . . . do.------------ Site and building. 50,000.00 8,000.00 8,000.00
Fulton, Mo.... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------. 60,000. 00 15,000. 00 8,810.00
Gallipolis, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 75,000. 00 12. 500.00 |- - - - - - - -......
Gallatin, Tenn. . . . . . . . . . . do ----------------- do...--------- .- 50,000.00 6,000.00 --------------
Galveston, Tex... . . . . Courthouse... . . . . . * @modeling . . . . . . 50,000, 00 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
D0-------------- Post office and | Third story. . . . . . . 15,000.00 15,000.00 |...... . . . . . . . . .
Customhouse. -
D0-------------.| Quarantine sta- Riprap . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
tion.
Gardiner, Me... . . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . Site and building... 105,000.00 25,000.00 22,000.00
Gary, Ind------------.... do------------|- ----do-----------. 125,000.00 75,000.00 1.00
Genesco, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . .------. -----do------------ 60,000.00 10,000.00 |..............
Georgetown, Tex....] . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000.00 5,000.00 5,000.00
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
25
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.



Amount - Total º . .
y- Outstanding |ex d Available |Amount to be ‘plus f t t
º liabilities. º#;" bai. [...i.e. Surplus fund. |Date of act.
* - e º ºs e s as sº e s e e s I am e s - - - - - - - * * * * * I e s as ºr e º is a - a - - - - - $60,000.00 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * is sº e is us || s is º 'º - - - * * * * * * * * : * * * * * $7,500.00 |............... $90,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mari, 4, 1913
- * * * * * * * * * s is e as I as º a • * * * * * * * * * * * - * * tº s e s = e s sº * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * s º ºs e i as a º º ºr e º ºs º a • * * * * O.
* * * * * * * * *s e s e s as H sº e º 'º - - - - - - e s m = * I e s s is e º is º: 13,300.00 §§§ * * * * - - - - - - - - - - sº B.
- - - - - e º ºs e º ºs e s = i is sº s - e - - - - * * * * * * r * is as e º 'º as e s - - - - - e i • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |............... O.
- - - - - - * * * * * s gº ºs sº - - - - - - - - - - - - * * : * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 || 50,000.00 |............... T)0.
- * * * * * * *e s a se e s e i s s a • - - - - - - - * * * * I s = a e s = e - a - - - - - - I - tº * * * * * * * * * * * * * 55,000.00 |............... DO.
- - - - e s º ºs e s s as a us i s m - - - - - - - - - - * * * I = * * * * * * * * * - - - - - I - * * * * * * * *‘..... - 85,000.00 |.......... ----- DO.
- - - - sº e ºs e s = e s sº e i e s - - - - - - - - - * * * * 20,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * = sº e s sº I s is - - - - - - - * * * * * * : * * * * * ió,000.00 |.....I.I.I.I.I. 1% § % s sº - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mari, 4, 1913
- - - - - - - e º ºs ºs e s = { * * - - - - - - - - - - * * * .00 --------------- 70,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . O.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * l = • * * * * * º: 18,000.00 107,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * * * * * * - - - - - - | < * ~ * * * * * - - - - - - - ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 125,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
$158.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39,158.00 842.00 || 60,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - - - - - e s sº e º I - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - 240,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - e. e. a e s as e s sº t a s • - - - - - - - - - - * * r * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - §§§ 1,250.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.
* - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1 s s = * * * * * * * * * * ~ * 7,500.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O.
- - - e. e s sº e s = s. s. s is I e s - - - - - - - - - * * * * : s = e s tº * * * * * - - - - - 5,000.00 ||... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * i e º e - - - - - - - - * * * * 1 s = s. s. s we e º 'º - - - - - - §§ 54,750.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ;
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * I sº a s - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 2,500.00 --------------|--------------- O.
• - - - - - - - - - - - - - l = • *** - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5,666.00 2,500.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
300.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 300.00 84,700.00 ||--------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - - - - s = s = e s : * * - - - - - - - - - - * * * : * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * º §§§ * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - Marp., 1918
* * * * * * * = a as se as s e I s • * * - - - - - - - * * * * I s • * * * * * * * * - - - - - I • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 300,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - .1) O.
128.00 --------------- 6,028.00 18,972.00 75, Ödööö |............... June 25, 1910
- - - - - - - - * * * * * * : * - - - - - - - - - - - - * * : * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * 7,500.06 100% * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mari, 4, 1913 .
- - - - * * * * *s s = e s s : * * * - - - - - - - * * * * * I • * * * * * * * * * - - - - - JUU. 500.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O.
* * * * * * e e = s. sº e s = 1 = • * - - - - - - - - * * * * 3,000.00 *::::::::: ;|...............|ſº *}}}}
- - - - - * * * * * * * * : * * - - - - - - - - - - * * * : * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - 5,000. 45,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ar. 4, 191:
- - - - - - - - - e = * * * | * * * - - - - - - - - - * * * 7,500.00 24,666.66 26, Ödööö |............... june 25,15ió
- - - - - - - - e º s = e º ºr ºn - - - - - - - - - - - tº as ºf s = e = * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * 150,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - s e s as sº e º ºs $49.00 12,049.00 82,951.00 85,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
- - - - - - - - - - * * * * : - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * : * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - 15,000.00 - - - - - - - - - -----|--------------- Aug. 1, 1914
• * ~ * * * * * * * * * * * 8,800.00 8,800.00 §§ ### ::::::::::::::: Marp., 1918
• * - - e s se s = e s e s e i a sº e - - - - - - - * * * * * } e s = * * * * - - - - - - - - 5,000. 60,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .L.) O.
- - - - - - as ºr e º e º ºs e º 'º - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * : * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 || 50,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do
-------------|---------------|-------- Ö00.00 |............... 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 ---------------|----------------------------- O.
- - - - - - * * * * * * * * 23,500.00 23,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * * a s = e s m is i s - e - - - - - - * * * * * * i = < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s e º ºs e s = - * * * 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . T)O.
• * * * * * * s = e s º is a 5,000.00 5,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - §§§ • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * #.
* * * * * *s e e s = * * * * I • * - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - es e s e º s = * * * * * * * 55,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - O.
98.30 --------------- 8,598.30 26,401.70 || 15,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - as º ºs e º e º e s : - - - - - - - - - - - - - * = 10,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 65,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - e º ºs e s = º ºs - - - - - - - - - - - - - * = | * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * 4,506.06 50% * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - B.
- - - - - * * * * s = e º ºs I - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * : * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - 3 * ~ * * 500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - O.
- - - - - * * * * * * * * * : * - - - - - - - - - - sº tº º ºs I e º ºs e º sº - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 --------------|--------------- DO.
- - - - - tº s = * * * * * * 125. 00 11,625.00 3,375.00 45,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * º º s e = * * * * * 18,000.00 18,000.00 - ... . . . . . . . . . . . 62,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
• * * * & Cº e º ºs e e s e a e - e - * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * e º ſº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,000.00 57,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• - - - © tº s s s as as s e e i s - - - - - - - - * * * * * * is º a “ s = - - - - - - - - - 24,500.00 || 65,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• - - - e º ºs e s as as s as sº 19,000.00 19,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] 81,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * * * * * * *s s s = s. s i = - - - - - - - - - - e º sº e i s s e º a sº s - - - - - - - - 7,450.00 || 47,550.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
- - - - - * * * * * * * * * : - - - - - - - - - - - e º 'º e º sm e s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - sº e º ºs sº tº s > * * - - - - 45,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * * * * * * sº e º as is s e º 'º - - - - - * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ió.000.00 90,000.00 ! ... . . . . . . . . . . . . B.
... .....I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.]...... … [… ió6,666.06 |............... jo.
- - - - e º ºs º ºs s gº º e º - - - - - - - - - - - * * * s 8,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IDO.
• * * * * * * * * s s s as a e - - - - - - * * * * * * * * 8,810.00 6, 190.00 || 45,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - * * * e < e s = e - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - 12,500.00 62,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - sº e º ºs e s e s e e i = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - §§§ 44,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 15,000.00 |.......................... fo.
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oct. 22, 1913
- - - - - sº tº º sº º s = * * * * * - - - - - - - - - * * * * 22.0% #}} §§§ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - e º ºs s as as e s sº I - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * - - 0,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * e i e º e s is is a tº e º - - - - - ióðöölöö 56,666.06 ...............| Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - - e s = e s = - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - e. 5,000.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
26 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
BUILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED BUT

tº º Amount ex-
- g * * * * * * Limit of Amount a
Location. Buildings. Class of work. cost. appropriated. sſ: #. *
Gilmer, Tex........ Post office ........ Site and building...] $55,000.00 $5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Girard, Kans.......|----- do------------|----- do------------ 75,000.00 6,000.00 --------------
Glasgow, Ky.-------|----- do----- sº is e < * * * | * * * * * do------------ 60,000.00 7,500.00 |--------------
Glens Falls, N. Y...] ..... do----------------- do------------ 100,000.00 55,000.00 $18,500.00
Glen Wood, Iowa.....|..... do----------------- do------------ 50,000.00 5,000.00 --------------
Gºod Springs, ----- do------------|----- do--------.....| 100,000.00 9,500.00 --------------
Oi O.
Globe, Ariz. . . . . . . . . Post office and | Building.......... 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Courthouse. | * *
Goldfield, New . . . . . . Post office........ Site and building.. 75,000.00 15,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Gouverneur, N. Y. . . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 20,000.00 | 9,500.00
Grand Junction,Coloſ..... do------------ Building.......... 100,000.00 100,000.00 |... -----------
Greenfield, Mass....]-...-do............ Site and building-...] 100,000.00 25,000.00 16, 500.00
Green River, Wyo. ...... do------------ i Site.-------------- 6,000.00 6,000.00 6,000.00
Greensburg, Ind. ...|..... do------------|----- do------------ 12,000.00 --------------|--------------
Greenville, Ala........... do------------|----- do------------ 5,000.00 5,000.00 ||--------------
Greenwich, Conn.----|- - - - - do------------ Building---------- 90,000.00 --------------|--------------
Grinnell, Iowa........... do------------|----- do------------ 90,000.00 --------------|--------... • * ~ * ~ *
Hackensack, N. J...]..... do----------------- do------------ 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Hagerstown, Md....]. - ... do------------ Extension........ 30,000.00 --------------|--------------
Hallowell, Me.......|..... do------------ Site--------------- 20,000. 00 20,000.00 6,500.00
Eſammond, La-...--|--|-- -do------------ Building ---------. 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Harrisonville, Mo...|..... do------------ Site and building. . 52, 500.00 3,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Harrodsburg, Ky. ...|- - - - - do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 7,500.00 ||--------------
Hastings, Mich......|- - - - - do------------ Site and building . 81,000.00 6,750.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Havana, Ill.........|---.. do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 9,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - , as sº wº
Hiawatha, Kans......... do------------ Building.......... 60,000.00 --------------|--------------
Highland, Ill... - - - - - - - - - - do------------ Site--------------- 7,000.00 4,000.00 4,000.00
Hinton, W. Va......|-----do - - - - - - - - - - - - Building.......... 50,000.00 50,000.00 |-------------.
Hobart, Okla............ do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hodgenville, Ky....|..... do------------|---:-do------------ 5,000.00 4,850.00 --------------
Hollidaysburg, Pa...l.....do............ Site and building.. 80,000.00 | 12,000.00 |..............
Holly Springs, Miss...|... -- do------------ Building.......... 42,500.00 --------------|--------------
Holton, Kans.......|----. do------------ Site--------------. 7,500.00 7,500.00 4,500.00
Honey Grove, "ex. . . . . . . do------------ Site and building. . 50,000.00 300.00 l-------------.
Honolulu, Hawaii... Post office, court- |..... do------------ 1,325,000.00 580,000.00 104,531.29
- house, and cus-
tomhouse.
. Hoopeston, Ill. . . . . . Post office. - - - - - - - - - - - - do--------- .* * * 70,000.00 10,000.00 --------------
Hoosick Falls, N. Y. . . . . . do------------|----- do------------ 80,000.00 --------------|----------- ---
Hornell, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 85,000.00 |... . . . . . . . * * * * 1 s • * * * * * * * * * * * *
Houghton, Mich. ---|-...- do------------ Site and building... 100,000.00 25,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Humboldt, ', enn......... do------------ Building.......... 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Huntingdon, ' enn.------ do------------ Site--------------- 2,500.00 2,500.00 --------------
Huntington, Ind. ...|- - - - - do------------ Building.......... 95,000.00 --------------|--------------
Huntington, W. Va. Post office and Extension. . . . . . . . 225,000.00 |... . . . . . -- - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
courthouse. *
Huntsville, Tex..... Post office. . . . . . . Site---------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 5,000.00
Indiana, Pa. ----...------ do------------ Site and building.. 90,000.00 25,000.00 --------------
Ishpeming, Mich. ... Post office.... . . . . . Site and building. . 75,000.00 45,000.00 12,000.00
Jackson, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 10,000.00
Jamestown, N. Dak-|- . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 --------------|--------------
Jasper, Ala... . . . . . . . Post office and | . . . . . do------------ 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Courthouse. * *
Jerseyville, Ill... . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Site and building.. 65,000.00 8,900.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Juneau, Alaska. . . . . Post office and . . . . . do------------ 200,000.00 80,000.00 22,500.00
- . customhouse. •
Kalispell, Mont. . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Building... . . . . . . . 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Kansas City, Mo....| Post office and Extension... . . . . . . 500,000.00 ||--------------|--------------
Courthouse. -
Kendallville, Ind ... Post office... . . . . . . Site and building. . 75,000.00 18,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Kenton, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . as º sº a sº e i e º sº ºn tº do. . . . . .------ 80,000.00 14,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Key West, Fla. . . . . . Marine Hospital...] Breakwater... . . . . 40,000.00 40,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office, court- || Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80,000.00 70,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
house, and cus- -
tomhouse.
Kinston, N. C. . . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Site and building.. 90,000.00 70,000.00 20,018. 20
Kirksville, Mo......|..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Extension......... 40,000.00 --------------|--------------
Kissimmee, Fla... . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site.-------------. 6,000.00 6,000.00 5,000.00
Kittanning, Pa...... -----do. . . . . . . ---------. do------------ 15,000.00 15,000.00 15,000 00
Laconia, N. H..... --|----. do. ----------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 --------------|--------------
La Junta, Colo. . . . . . . . . . . do-----------. Site and building. . 85,000.00 55,000.00 1.00
Lake City, Fla... . . . . . . . . do. . . . . .------ Site.-------------- 7,500.00 6,000.00 6,000.00
Lakeland, Fla............ do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 75,000.00 10,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Lamar, Mo... . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site.-------------- 10,000.00 7,000.00 7,000.00
Lancaster, Ky. . . . . . . . . . .do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Lancaster, Pa.. . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site.-------------- 138,278.78 138,278. 78 |..............
Lancaster, S.C.. . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 50,000.00. 8,000.00 |... -- - - - - - - - - -
Janett, Ala.........'..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . ---- 50,000.00 10,000.00 '..............
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
27
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914—Continued.


Amount Total *
gº Outstanding |es. Available |Amount to be f t;
*:::::::: liabilities. º i... [...] Surplus fund. |Date of act,
ge & tº gº º ſº e º ºs º º sº tº gº tº gº º ºs e º 'º gº tº ºn e º 'º º ſº º ºs º º ſº º is ſº tº º ºs º ºs º ºs $5,000.00 || $50,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
tº º º ºs º sº s sº sº sº as sº e s - tº gº gº tº gº tº sº e g º ºs tº s g g : s tº gº º ºs e º 'º º e s sº sº is sº 6,000.00 69,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T) O.
tº º º º tº sº º ºs º e º º ºs º E º gº º sº & º ºs ºs º ºs = & sº gº i & º Gº & sº e º sº º ºs º º ſº º sº. 7,500.00 || 52,500.00 |............... Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * $18,500.00 36,500.00 45,000.00 |...............]. June 25, 1910
* & E º ºs º ºr g º sº tº e º 'º $5,000.00 ,000.00 --------------- 45,000.00 ||-----.......... Mar. 4, 1913
tº tº º ºs º gº gº gº º sº tº º tº e 9,500.00 9,500.00 --------------- 90,500.00 --------------- Do.
tº a º ºs e s sº tº sº gº ºs e º e : * * * * * * * g º is e º e º ºs I s º gº tº * * * * * * * * * * * * * e ºs e = & e º tº tº e º sº sº s 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
e - © tº º º sº e º ºs º º sº ge 1.00 1.00 14,999.00 60,000.00 |...............] May 30, 1908
$120.00 --------------- 9,620.00 10,380.00 50,000.00 --------------- June 25, 1910
201. 12 --------------- 201. 12 99,798.88 --------------|--------------- Do.
214.00 --------------- 16,714.00 8,286.00 75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s & © º ºs º ºs º gº e g º ºs º s sº tº e º 'º e º ſº sº sº e s tº º 6,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- Do.
tº as º is us as e º sº e º sº tº g I e º gº sº sº º sm e ºs e g is tº gº sº I tº e º 'º º ºs e º ºs e º gº tº s s e s º ºs ºº e s sº º sº s º ºs e s 12,000.00 |...............] Mar. 4, 1913
as tº e s sº gº ºs s & sº e º e º ºr sº gº sº e º ºs e º ºs º ºs e º ºs I e º ºs º ºs e s m º ºs º ºs ºs º ºr 5,000.00 --------------|--------------- Do.
* * * * * = sº sº º s ºr ºs e º sº º sº tº º is sº sº s m sp. s. sº e s ºf s is sº tº º gº sº is sº sº tº º ºs º s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 90,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * g s tº gº e º e º e º º ºs º ºs e º f * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 90,000.00 ||--------------- Do.
s tº s sº e s e e º ºs ºs º ºs e i s tº e s sº wº gº ºs e s is is e s sº I sº e º ºr us as º ºs º ºn e º 'º s sº I dº sº s º is e º º ºs e º e s sº s 100,000.00 --------------- Do.
•,• - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30,000.00 --------------- Do.
* * * * * * * g º ºs s e s tº º ºs º º sº e º ºs e º ºs ºs º gº tº 6,500.00 13,500.00 --------------|---------------| June 25, 1910
• - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 ||--------------- Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * = a, e s s = e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3,000.00 49,500.00 |............... DO.
is sº sº º sº º º sº º ºs s e º sº I sº s is sº sº e s tº º sº e s = sº as I e s s = sº e s is s as e º e º sº 7,500.00 ,500.00 --------------- Do.
* * * * * g s = e < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * 6 750. 00 74,250.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * e s ºs º ºs s. sº sº * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9,000.00 1,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s sº º ºs e g º e s sº º sº e s - e ºs º ºs º e s tº se s is º ºs e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * s = <s º ºs º ºs º ºs e º º ºs º ºs ºn sº º ºs º ºs e º ºs º ºn 4,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
* * * * g º e s sº e º s = * 122.65 122. 65 49,877.35 |....... -------|---------------| May 30, 1908
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,000.00 10,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . .]-...-----------|---------------| Mar. 4, 1913
s is sº sº sº, e s = e º ºs e e s - sº s sº s ºr s as as s is º ºr * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,850.00 150.00 l...... --------- Do.
tº gº ºs e º sº º sº sº º sº º is sº : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * sº º sº * * * * * * * 12,000.00 | 68,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
• * s = s. s. sº e s e s = e º s e º sº e s e º sº as º is sº e a s is º ºr sº s s = * * * * * * * : * * * * e s sº * * * * * * * * 42,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lo.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,500.00 ---------------|-------------- $3,000.00 June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 300.00 300.00 l. ... -- - - - - - - - - - 49, 700.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] Mar. 4, 1913
& sº e º 'º gº tº e º 'º º sº sº sº e º sº * * * * * * * * * * * * 104,531. 29 475,468. 71 745,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
s e º º sº is gº dº sº e s e º e i s m e º ºs e º sº sº º sº º ºs sº a wº sº º sº º ºs e = * * * * * * * 10,000.00 60,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * e º sº e º s sº a s is a º ºs º sº e º sº º s = º ºs I sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 80,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
is as s is as sº º ºs e s sº º e º sº s sº is º ºs ºs dº º º e < * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 85,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * g e º º tº ºc ºn tº e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 25,000.00 75,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ----|---------------|---------------| 50,000.00 ---------------| Po.,
* * * * * * sº gº º sº sº e º 'º 2,500.00 2,500.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- Do.
* * * * * * e º e º 'º º sº as I is s tº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 95,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
sº e º gº ºs e s is as es e s = * r * * * * * * * * * * * g e s = º ºs s e s gº º as ºs º ºr e º ºs e s w w we s s sº e º s e < * * * * 225,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * e g º ºs & e ºs I e º sº º sº, e s = * * * * * e is 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .]--------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . -- June 25, 1910
tº e º sº º º ºs e º 'º e º 'º e i º ºs º ºs º ºs º ºs º is sº sº e º º e º sº sº º sº º º sº sº º º sº º º 25,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
100.00 --------------- 12, 100.00 32,900.00 30,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * s = * * * * * * = * * * * * 10,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . ----|--------------|--------------- O.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 75,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * sº s = º 'º gº ºs e º is sº g º ºs is sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,900.00 56, 100.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
528.30 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 23,028. 30 56,971.70 120,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * g e . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* & sº sº sº tº sº es sº ºr e º 'º gº º ºs ºs e º ºs º ºs e = * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s = * * * * * * * * * 500,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 18,000.00 57,000.00 |...............!" Do.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14,000.00 66,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |Do.
91.00 l. -------------- 91.00 39,909.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1911
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * is e s is as * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 70,000.00 10,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
190.00 --------. . . . . . . 20,208.20 49,791.80 20,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
e s as sº e º s sº as s a s sº e i º ºs ºs e º e º we s sº e º is & sº I gº e º sº g º ºs e s is tº s is a s : s sº º me • * * * * * * * * * * 40,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * g e º ºs & E; tº * * * * * * * 5,000.00 1,000.00 --------------|--------------- Do.
s = * * * * * * * * * * * * is sº e s se e s = * * * * * * * 15,000.00 -------------------------------------------- May 30, 1908
* = * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * i s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 75,000.00 |- - - - - - - - . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
121.50 --------------- 122. 50 54,877.50 30,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * g º sº tº e º s = e º ºs º ºs ºs e º ºs e s sº º e s = 10,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do. .
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = s = ** = * * * * * * * * is sº 7,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * g e s sº * * * * * * * = * * * * s sº e s = s. s sº sº e º e º ºs ºs º is e = * * * * * * * * * * * s ºs ºs s is is a 55,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
* * * * * * * * * is s a s ºr s = * * * * * *s is sº * * * * * | * * * * * * * g º is sº us s sº * 138,278.78 |--------------|--------------. DO.
* * * * * * * * * e º sº s is 8,000.00 8,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
s is ſº * * * * * * * * * * * 6,000.00 6,000.00 4,000.00 40,000.00 H. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
28 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
| s &
BUILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTEIORIZED BUT


4 & Amount ex-
te c. * * * * * Limit of Amount
Location. Buildings. Class of work. cost. appropriated. sº § e
la Salle, Ill.-------- Post office. . . . . . . . Site and building - $100,000.00 $65,000.00 $14,000.00
Las Cruces, N. Mex. Post office and | Building.......... 125,000.00 --------------|--------------|.
courthouse.
Daurel, Miss.... . . . . . . Post Oſſice... . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . S0,000.00 30,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
i.awton, Okla. . . . . . . Post office and | Site and building - 215,096.28 62,796.28 8,002.00
courthouse.
Lebanon, Ind. . . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Site--------------- 10,000.00 9,800.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Lebanon, Mo... -----|----. do-------------|----- 0-------- - - - - - 7,500.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Leesburg, Va.-------|----- do------------- Site and building.. 55,000.00 8,750.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Lenoir, N. C.I.I.I.I.I. do------------- ite--------------- 8,000.00 7,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Leominister, Mass...|..... do------------. Site and building.. 90,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 • - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
H/ewistown, Pa..... -----. do-------------|----- do------------- 75,000.00 16,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Liberty, Mo.--------|----- do------------------ do------------- 60,000.00. . . . 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Dincoln, Nebr... . . . . Post office and Extension... . . . . . . 275,000.00 . . . . 65,000.00.|... . . . . . . . . . . .
- courthouse. -- . . .
Linton, Ind. . . . . . . . . Post office......... Site-----------. . . . 8,000.00 4,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Little Falls, Minn. --|- - - - - do.. ...] Building---------- 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Live Oak, Fla.......|- - - - - do---- * | * * * * * do----------- 60,000.00 30,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Lock Haven, Pa....|..... do------------- Site and building... 100,000.00 22,500.00 j. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Logan, Ohio........|----- do------------- uilding.... ------ 60,000.00 --------------|--------------
Long Heach. Čai......... do. ite--------------- 40,000.00 40,000.00 40,000.00
Lgº, Island City, . . . . . do---- Site and building... 200,000.00 100,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
JN. Y. .*
Longview, TeX.-----|- . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 50,000.00 30,000.00 6,500.00
Lumberton, N. C. : . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 10,000.00
Lyons, N. Y. ..... --|- .... do-------------|----- do.------------ 15,000.00 --------------|--------------
Madison, Ga. -------|- . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 5,000. 00 5,000.00 |.. -- - - - - - - - - - -
Madison, S. Dak. ---|- - - - - do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Madison, Wis. . . . . . . Post oi ce and j. . . . . do------------- 550,000.00 --------------|--------------
courthouse.
Madisonville, Ky.... Post office.........] Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 |.. ------------|----------....
Malden, Mass. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 150,000.00 --------------|--------------
Manassas, Va. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- ite--------------- 5,000.00 3,750.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Manchester, Conn. . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 15,000.00 15,000.00 12,000.00
Mandan, N. Dak... . . . . . . do... Site and building 66,000.00 55,000.00 12,000.00
Maquoketa, Iowa. . . . . . . . do... T}uilding . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 |... -----------|----------....
Marengo, Iowa. . . . . . . . . . . do------------. Site--------------- 5,000.00 3,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Marianna, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Site and building 50,000.00 6, 500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Marianna, Fla.... . . . Post office and ||. . . . . 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - 70,000.00 4,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
Marion, Ill. . . . . . . . . . Post office.... . . . . . . . . . . do... 70,000.00 15,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Marion, Ky. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do---- 70,000.00 5,250.00 5,250.00
Marion, S. C. . . . . . . . . . . . . do--- Building . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 |--------------|------------..
Marlin, Tex. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do---- 45,000.00 45,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Martin, Tenn. . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do---------- 50,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Martinsburg, W. Va. . . . . . do--- Extension.... . . . . . 20,000.00 --------------|----------....
Martins Ferry, Ohio. . . . . . do--- Site and building.. 85,000.00 15,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Maryville, Tenn.....|- - - - - do--- |Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 --------------|---------. . . . .
McComb, Miss. . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
McCook, Nebr. . . . . . Post office and ||.....do.... . . . . . . . . . 120,000.00 120,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse. -
McKees Rocks, Pa.. Post office.... . . . . . Site and building 80,000.00 15,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Medford, Oreg..... . . Post office and . . . . . 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - 110,000.00 90,000.00 1.00
courthouse. e
Media, Pa... . . . . . . . . Post office.... . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 |. . . . . . . - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Memphis, Tenn. . . . . Sub-post office. . . . Site and building. . 210,000.00 90,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Memphis, Tex. . . . . . Post office....... . . . . Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7,500.00 4, 100.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Mena, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Mendota, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . . do... Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Merrill, Wis... . . . . . . . . . . . . do... Building. . . . . . . . . . 75,000.00 --------------|--------------
Metrºpolis, Ill... . . . . . . . . . do--- - Site and building . . 50,000.00 10,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Middlesboro, Ky. . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 85,000.00 20,000.00 6,000.00
Middletown, Conn...|. . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 140,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Middlotown, Ohio. . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-----------. 100,000.00 --------------|--------------
Midland, Mich. . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building 60,000.00 4,300.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Milbank, S Dak. . . . . . . . . do------------ ite--------------- 7,500.00 4,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Miles City, Mont....|.. . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building 150,000.00 31,500.00 14,500.00
Millersburg, Ohio. . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7,500.00 7,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Millville, N. J. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building 55,000.00 20,000.00 14,700.00
Milwaukee, Wis. . . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- ite--------------- 100,000.00 ||--------------|--------------
Minden, La-... . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Building . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|----------....
Mineral Point, Wis...| Post office and Site and building.. 60,000.00 4, 500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
customhouse.
Missoula, Mont...... Post office and | Extension... . . . . . . 125,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Courth Ouse.
Moberly, Mo. . . . . . . . Post Office... . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . 35,000.00 --------------|--------------
Modesto, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000.00 20,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
29
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.


Amount º Total *
Outstanding - Available |Amount to be º - d
º liabilities. º ... [...i.e. Surplus fund. |Date of act.
$174.25 ||-----..... . . . . . $14,174.25 $50,825.75 $35,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * e ºs s sº a • * * i • * * * * * * e s e e s - - - - - - e = e s e e s = • * - - - 125,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913 -
23.50 --------------- 23. 50 29,976.50 50,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
96.00 --------------- 8,098.00 54,698.28 152,300.00 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9,800.00 200.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - - e º ºs º º - - $6,800.00 6,800.00 700.00 --------------|--------------- Do.
- - - - - e s e s is e e º 'º - - - - - - - - us sº wº e s = e - I - - - e º ºs e s e º 'º me • * - 8,750.00 46,250.00 --------------. DO.
- - - - - - - sº g º ºs - - - 4,500.00 4,500.00 2,500.00 1,000.00 --------------- Do.
* - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 90,000.00 |............... DO.
- - - - ºr ºs = * * * * *-* - * || - - - - - * * * * * > * * * *- : * - ſº - ºs º ºs º ºs º ºs º - - - 16,000.00 59,000.00 |............ ... DO.
- - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - e º se - - - - - - - - - - as e ºs e º 'º - - - - - 7,500.00 52, 500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
667.00 l.... -------...- 667. 00 64,333.00 210,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
- - - - - - ºr e s e s - - - 5,500.00 5,500.00 -...----------- 3,500.00 || 1 $1,000.00 || Mar. 4, 1913
• - - - - e. e º s e s sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - I - - - - e. e. e. e. e s = * * * * : * ~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * 65,000.00 - - - - - - - - --..... Do.
145.00 --------------- 145.00 29,855.00 30,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
- - - - - - º ºs e º sº tº * - || - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - tº º ſº gº ºs º 'º - - - 22,500.00 77,500.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
- * * * * * * * * * * e º is º º ºn tº sº s e s m e s sº tº ºr - I - º a s m e º e s sº a • * * - I - e º ºr a e s e º 'º e º 'º - e. 60,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
- - - - - - * * * * * * * - I - - - - - - e º sº e º 'º - - - 40,000.00 |.... -----------|--------------|---------------| June 25, 1910
--------------|---------------|--------------- 100,000.00 || 100,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - sº º ºs º ºs - - - - - - - - - - - sº e e s - - - - 6,500.00 23,500.00 20,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
- - - - - - º ºs º ºs e º - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * - - - 10,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- DO.
* - ~ * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * = e s e... ----|---------------| 15,000.00 ---------------| Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - º º º ºs º sº º ºs - 5,000.00 5,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- DO.
- - - - * * * * * * * * * * I e < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * e e s tº e º sº I • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |............... Do.
* - - - - e º ºs ºs e e s - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s s as e º - - - - - e º s e º ºs e º e º 'º - - 550,000.00 |............. . . . Do.
- * ~ * * * * * * * * * * - I - - - - * * * e s s is a s • * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - I - - - - e º e ºs e = * ~ * ~ * 10,000.00 |............... DO.
* - - - * * * * * * * * * - I - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * || - * * * * * * * * * * * * * - I - e - e º gº e s = e º - - - - 150,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
- - - - - - - e º sº º 'º - - - - - - - - º ºs º ºs º sº e - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - . 3,750.00 1,250.00 --------------- Do.
- - - - - * * * * * * * * - I - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - 12,000.00 ---------------|-------------- 3,000.00 || June 25, 1910
82.50 --------------- 12,082.50 42,917. 50 11,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do. -
- - - - - - * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - a s e º 'º - - - - - - - 50,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - * * * * * - - - - - - - - - e º is s = e - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - 3,500.00 1,500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - ....] § Do.
- - - - - - * = s. * * * - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - e. e. e. is sº e - - - - b. 6,500.00 43,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * i - - - - * * * * * * * * * * ~ i - - - * * * *s s e s m = a + - 4,000.00 66,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
--------------|------------------------------ 15,000.00 55,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,250.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64,750.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
- - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - sº * * * * * * - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - as * * * * * * * - - - - 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
126.60 l. -------------. 126.60 44,873.40 l. -------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
- - - - - - e s = * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - e s = * - - - - - - - 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
• - - * * * * = • * * * * * : - - - - - - as sº e s a s = - - - - - - * * * e º e = * * * - - - - - - e s = * * * * * * * - - 20,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO. -
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * i - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * 15,000.00 70,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
- - - * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * - || - - - - - * * * * * * - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - - - - 60,000.00 - - - - - - ... . . . . . . Do.
- - - - - * * * * * * * * - I - - - - * * * * * * * * * * - I - - - * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - sº as s = * * * * - - - - 50,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
30.00 --------------- 30.00 119,970:00 --------------|- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - a s ºn e s - tº a - I - - - e s s = e s = • * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - - 15,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - e = * * * - - - - J. 00 89,999.00 20,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* - ºr º e s ºr e = * * * * * i - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * i • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * = s. s. sº e º 'º - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * I - w w w w e s e e s • * * * * 90,000.00 | 120,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JDO. e
- - - - - - - * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - 4, 100.00 3,400.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
- - - - - - e s tº a • - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - tº s = * * * - - - - - 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. DO.
- - - - e. a = s. s e s = e º i - - - - - - s = e s e º e - - it • * * * * * * * * * * * * - - 10,000.00 --------------|--------------- Lo.
- - - - - - - e s tº * - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - e = * * * * - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - - - - 75,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
- - - - - * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10,000.00 40,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
50.00 --------------- 6,050.00 13,950.00 65,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * i - e º e º sº, sº s = * * * * * * * * * * * * *‘....... --|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000.00 |......... ------| Mar. 4, 1913.
- - - - - - sº e s tº e - - - - - - - - - - - a e º 'º - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * - - - 100,000.00 |...... . . . . . . . . . . D0.
- - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - as s = e = * - - - - - - - - * * * * * - - - - - 4,300.00 55,700.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] Do. -
- - - e a s = * s sº e ºs e º i - - - - e. e. e s s s a se - e º i • * * * * * * * * * * * * - - 4,000.00 3,500.00 --------------- DO.
75. 00 4,500.00 19,075.00 12, 425.00 118,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
- - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - e s = * * * * - - - - - - - - - * s ºr m = m - - - - 7,000.00 500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . ...| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 14,700.00 5,300.00 35,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Juno 25, 1910
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1 ºn - - e º s e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 |- - - - - . . . . . . . . . . DO.
• * * * * * * c e s e º 'º e i - - - - as a s e a s e º e - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * - 1,500.00 55,500.00 |... -----------. IDO.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - e s - a - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * - - - - - i 125,000.00 --------------- Dor
• * * * * * * * * *s s a • - i - - - - e a s a e º e º an º' - I - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s e s - sº - - - | 35,000.00 |............... DO.
- - - - * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - º e º sº tº e - - - - 30,000.00 ..........I.I.I.I.I.I. DO.
| Deficiency,
80 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
\ BluILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED BUT
Location Buildings Class of work Limit of . Amount, ...;
g º * COSt. appropriated.|s. d.
Monessen, Pa....... Post office........ Site and building...] $90,000.00 $21,475.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Monongahela, Pa....]..... do------------|----- do------------ 80,000.00 47,000.00 || $21,788.00
Monroe, Ga.........l..... do------------ Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |............ --
Monroe, Wis........] . . . . . do. ---------------- do------------ 7,500.00 7,500.00 7,500.00
Montclair, N. J......|..... do------------ Site and building...| 130,000.00 30,000.00 30,000.00
Montevideo, Minn...|..... do------------ Building -- - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Monte Vista, Colo. . . . . . . . do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 5,000.00 |..............
Montrose, Colo...... Post office and ||..... do------------ 15,000.00 15,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
courthouse. -
Morgan City, La. ... Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 6,000.00 4,200.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Morristown, N. J.. . . . . . . . do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 125,000.00 45,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Moultrie, Ga. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site and building.. 65,000.00 7,000.00 7,000.00
Mountain Grove, Mo..... do------------ Site--------------- 7,500.00 6,500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mount Airy, N. C. . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Mount Carmel, Ill...|..... do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 20,000.00 20,000.00
Mount Olive, N. C. . . . . . . do------------ Site--------------- 5,000.00 2,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mºº Pleasant, ..... do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
ich. -
Mººt Pleasant, ..... do------------|----. do------------ 55,000.00 5,000.00 |..............
0X.
Mount Vernon, Ind. . . . . . do. ----------- Site--------------- 7,500.00 7,500.00 7,500.00
Mount Vernon, N. Y. . . . . . do. ----------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 70,000.00 |..............
Murray, Ky.........|..... do. ----------- Site... -----------. 5,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Muskegon, Mich. ... Post office and Additional land 75,000.00 10,000.00 |..............
customhouse. and oxtension.
Mystic, Conn. . . . . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 55,000.00 4,000.00 |.. -----------.
Nacogdoches, Tex...|..... do------------|----- do------------ 60,000.00 5,000.00 |... --...------.
Nampa, Idaho. . . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site--------------- 10,000.00 9,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Napoleon, Ohio.....|..... do------------|----- do. ----------- 7,500.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Nashville, Tenn..... Post o "ce and | Extension. . . . . . . . . 400,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
customhouse
Naugatuck, Conn... Post O ſice. . . . . . . . . Building... . . . . . . . 80,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Navasota, TeX......|..... do------------|----- do. -----------| 50,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Neenah, Wis. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . .---------|----- do. ----------- 80,000.00 --------------|--------------
Nephi, Utah. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site.-------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
New Albany, Ind... . . . . . do. ----------- Extension. . . . . . . . 73,000.00 73,000.00 |..............
Newark, Dek: . . . . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site.... ----------. 5,000.00 4,000.00 |..............
Newark, N. J. . . . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site and building...] 1,800,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Newark, Ohio.......|..... do------------|----- do------------ 190,000.00 90,000.00 18, 519.50
Nix #raunfels, [..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Building... . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|-------------.
"ex. - +
*Newburyport, Mass...... do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 70,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Newcastle, Ind......|..... do. ----------- Site and building.. 90,000.00 75,000.00 17,000.00
Newdastle, Wyo. . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site--------------- 5,000.00 3,000.00 |..............
Nºy Vºrtinsville, - - - - - do------------|----- do. ----------- 12,500.00 12,500.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. Vºl.
New Orleans, La. . . . . Customhouse. .... Remodeling. . . . . . . 350,000.00 100,000.00 |..............
Do-------------- Quarantine sta- | Wharf............. 12,000.00 12,000.00 |..............
tion.
Do-------------. Subtreasury....... Site and building. 250,000.00 |............................
Nº. i Philadelphia, Post oſſice......... Site--------------- 12,500.00 12,500.00 |..............
hio.
Newport, R. I....... Post office a n d Additional land 400,000.00 100,000.00 84,000.00
customhouse. and building. d
Newton, Iowa....... Post office......... Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 10,000.00 |..............
New York, N. Y....] Assay oſſice....... Building.......... 607,408, 00 335,408.00 |..............
Niles, Ohio.......... Post Office... Site--------------- 15,000.00 15, 15,000.00
Noblesville, Ind..... [..... 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do...---------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 |..............
Nogales, Ariz........ Customhouse......| Site and building. 110,000.00 16,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
D0-------------- Post office.--...----| Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000.00 |.............. • * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Nº. Attleboro, ..... do ...-------- Site and building. 70,000.00 20,000.00 14,000.00
8|SS.
North Topeka, Kans. Branch post office...... do------------. 71,000.00 11,000.00 |..............
North Vernon, Ind... Post oſſice.........|..... do------------- 60,000.00 13,500.00 --------------
Norton, Va.---------|----. do-------------|----- do------------- 75,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
Nyack, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . do ... --------- Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,500.00 15,500.00 15,500.00
Oakland, Cal........ Post office a n d . Additional land 115,000.00 115,000.00 |..............
customhouse. and extension.
Oconto, Wis.........| Post office......... Site and building. 60,000.00 3,000.00 |............ :
Oelwein, Iowa......|..... do------------- Site--------------. 8,000.00 ,000.00 ||----------....
Oklahoma City, Post office a n d Extension......... 250,000.00 |............................
Okla. Courthouse.
Olney, Ill........... Post oſſice......... Site and building. 70,000.00 6,500.00 |..............
Olyphant, Pa.......]..... do-------------|----- do------------- 65,000.00 13,500.00 |..............
Öneida, N.Y........|..... do------------- Site.-------------. 20,000.00 --------------|--------------
Opelika, Ala........|..... do------------- Building.......... 105,000.00 50,000.00 |..............
Orange, Tex---------|----- do------------- Site and building.. 60,000.00 5,000.00 |..............
Orlando, Fla........!..... do------------- Building.......... 80,000.00 --------------|-------------.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
31.
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.

* Deficiency.
Amount - Total - --
Outstanding Available |Amount to be
º liabilities. º jºi... [...i.e. Surplus fund. |Date of act.
tº gº tº sº º ºr ºs º sº º ºs º º º $21,475.00 $21,475.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . $68,525.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913 .
$90.00 --------------. 21,878.00 $25,122.00 33,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
gº º 'º e º ſº ºn tº sº tº tº sº º Gº || 3 º' gº º sº º ºs & º tº gº º º ºs º º e = * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .]...............] Mar. 4, 1913
sº e º gº is sº is sº tº s tº as as s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 ---------------|--------------|---------------| June 25, 1910
sº e s = * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 30,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * *s sº e s a s m sº sº s º ºs as s as a e s is sº e s = e º 'º is e º ºs e º ºs e º e º ºs e s ∈ I sº e = e ºs s as e s = e º is is us 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
as ſº º gº º º ºs e º ſº º gº tº º º º tº sº sº tº sº º º ºs º ºs e º 'º sº & sº º tº sº as * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 5,000.00 --------------- Do.
tº sº gº as ºs e º sº s is sº as s e 15,000.00 15,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- DO.
* * * * * * g is e º e º ºs s e s m e º ºs e e º ºr & sº se s e i s e s m s tº a tº s is a e º º sº 4,200.00 1,800.00 --------------- Do.
100.00 l--------------. 100.00 44,900.00 80,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
s sº me º ºs ºs e º ºs e s s s e 1,200.00 8,200.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 58,000.00 $1,200.00 || Mar, 4, 1913
gº tº gº gº tº º º ºs s sº tº sº tº & º ºs s ∈ tº tº sº tº º sº º is e º e i tº º sº º sº º ºs sº tº * * * * * * 6,500.00 1,000.00 --------------- DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * g º º ſº e º 'º e º s º as tº º º is a s tº s º gº º ºs ºn e s sº 5,000.00 --------------|--------------. Do.
& ‘E ºn e º 'º gº tº sº º e º ºs e s º sº dº º sº º º ſº gº º ºs º gº º 20,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 55,000.00 |............... Do.
sº sº sº tº sº ſº º º * @ sº e º e º ºs e s ∈ sº a tº e º ºs e º e º 'º I as sº se tº gº ºs e s is s tº º ºs e tº 2,000.00 | 3,000.00 |............... Do.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7,500.00 67,500.00 |-...----------- Do.
e is e º sº º s tº w tº s º is ſº I s m s as º is tº s sº e º me tº sº, e i s e º e g = * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 50,000.00 |............... Do.
ge º ºs º gº tº sº tº sº tº e ºs e º a tº s g º ºr * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
240.00 l--------------. 240.00 69,760.00 30,000.00 |............... Do.
a • e s = * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * = • , = e s e s • * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
tº e º º is tº ºn tº ºs e s tº º º s tº e º 'º an º ºs º ºs & sº e s e º º sº º as us & sº º is º ºs e º & 10,000.00 65,000.00 |............... Do.
e tº g º ºs ºs e º ºs e º e s tº sº tº e º ºs s sº gº tº a dº sº tº as tº s ſº e º 'º e º sº tº us tº sº º sº tº 4,000.00 51,000.00 |............... DO.
sº tº e g º & e s e e s ſº º ºs º ºs e º e º ºs e s & sº e º 'º sº gº a º º sº tº s e s tº as tº sm e º & 5,000 00 55,000.00 |...-------...... Do.
tº gº e º sº tº gº º ºs º ºs e º º e ºs e º e s tº e º ºs º as tº a gº • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9,500.00 500.00 --------------. DO.
gº tº e º ºs º as tº e º sº tº gº tº & ſº as as & s is º dº sº tº e de s gº || sº gº gº is ſº tº gº e & tº £ e º sº tº 7,500.00 --------------|-----------!---- Do.
s º e º e s = e º sº sº º sº e i = e º as e s tº e º as e e s = e i s e º ºs e = * * * * * * * * * is tº e s is ºn tº e º sº º ºs e s is 400,000.00 |............... DO.
as º ºs e s e º e s is s tº e º & e s is sº e º ºs e º ſº ºn is a e sº e = * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 80,000.00 |............... DO.
sº gº as e ºs e s tº e º sº tº e º e º s = º ºs e s = * * * g = tº tº e º 'º dº sº a se & sº & e º sº. 8 || < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 |............... Do.
s sº sº e º ºs e º ºs e s is a s i e is a e º is ºs ºs s = e e º sº, º f * * * * is as ºn as º ºs s is s = º f is º is g º is & sº s º is is is a tº 80,000.00 |............... Do.
e e is as a s is a sº e º e º e I e º 'º me is a tº ºn tº sº e s is a s as a s = * is is as tº s º ºs e s = 5,000.00 --------------|--------------- Do.
3.50 --------------- 3.5 72,996.50 --------------|--------------. June 25, 1910
e tº sº dº e º ºs e s tº e º sº e 4,000.00 4,000.00 ----. . . . . . . . . . . 1,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
tº g sº ſº ºn tº sº e º ſº º sº e e i = e º sº tº gº tº es sº tº gº as e º 'º e º gº º tº us e º e º º ºs e a tº e º is as tº & 8 tº 8 s = e º sº tº 1,800,000 00 |............... DO.
25.00 --------------. 18,544.50 71,455.50 00,000.00 |............... June 30, 1906
tº º s º is tº e º sº sº e º s tº s sº sº gº gº e º ºs e s tº gº tº as tº º º e º 'º e º e º sº tº sº tº its tº i º ºs º º ºs e º 'º e º º ºs & ſº tº 50,000.00 |...............] Mar. 4, 1913
e e = e = e º e s is a s s e i se tº as sº e m = m at e º ºs º ºs e i s a ſº s e º sº e º s sº e º e º e º sº a s = * * * * * * * * * 70,000.00 |............... Do.
200.00 l--------------. 17,200.00 57,800.00 15,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * i s e º ºs e s s e ºs e º 'º e º e i s º a tº sº º º is e º 'º e º 'º a 3,000.00 2,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
sº dº sº º is $ sº e º º ºs g º sº | * s e º 'º e º ºs e º 'º º gº e º is º e º ſº e º is tº as e s tº s º 12,500.00 |--------------|--------------- Do.
& E = tº º tº gº & º 'º gº tº º all - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 100,000.00 250,000.00 |............... Aug. 1, 1914
sº tº º º tº º e º ºs e º e º & * * g º gº tº gº tº º sº º sº º ºs ºg sº & E * > * * * * * * * * * * 12,000.00 |... -----------|--------------- DO.
is e º ºs º ºs º ºs s tº us tº tº s & sº ſº ºn a tº an a s is sº as a tº sº | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * gº tº & s e s º ºs e º a dº ſº * 250,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * e g º ºs s e e s s º e º sº sº I e º º is tº as a s sº tº sº a tº º is 12,500.00 |..............]...............] Mar. 4, 1913
s = º & tº e º º sº º e º ºs e i e º gº e º 'º gº e º 'º e º sº º & 84,000.00 16,000.00 300,000.00 |............... DO.
s s º ºs s e º is a ºn e º e s m s sº e º ºs e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s s = s = * * 10,000.00 |..............l............... DO.
3.081.60 12,326.40 15,408.00 320,000.00 272,000.00 |............... Oct. 20, 1914
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * gº gº º 15,000.00 ||---------------|..............l...............] June 25, 1910
* * * * * * *s ºn s e s a tº # 1 is s gº e s is sº as s s a e s tº as ºf s º ºs º ºs º ºs & e º is tº e º sº. 10,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .l...............] Mar. 4, 1913
s & e º e º is gº is a e s s = | s sº º e s = s. as ºn tº sº e º ºs s : s sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * 16,000.00 94,000.00 |...... ----..... DO.
is as s tº gº tº e º sº sº e º e º e º ºs e º e s is sº is a e º us as I s e º ºs s = as e e º e s s e º i º e s = * * * * * * * * * * is 10,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
180.00 l............... 14, 180.00 5,820.00 50,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * *s tº e º ºs s s s sº I s sº º tº º e º sº sº º º is sº e s , s sº tº gº tº a s tº as tº as tº sº a º 11,000.00 60,000.00 |...............] Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * g e º ºs sº tº s s as sº e ºs e i s m & e º e - - - - - - - - - 13, 500.00 46,500.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * g º se a sº e s is 4,750.00 4,750.00 45,250.00 25,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * = ſº º sº º sº º sº º sº sº. It tº e º 'º gº tº sº e º & sº tº gº as e 15,500.00 ----...........]. . . . . . . . . . . ...l...............] June 25, 1910
• e º as º ºs e s sº tº s sº as a . s. sº e º is ºs e s as * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 115,000.00 |..............]...............] Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * g º ºs e s sº is tº s \ is e º e º ºs e º º ºs º ºs e º ºs º º ºs e º sº e s is e º tº º e º º 3,000.00 57,000.00 |............... DO.
e e s m e º sº e s we s = e º i s sº sº ºn e º 'º a s is sº e º ºs e i s sº tº e º 'º s = e s tº e º sº a 8,000.00 --------------|--------------. DO.
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * '* * * * * * * * * * * * 250,000.00 |............... DO.
* & © s º º ºs ºn as a sº us as a º ºs e º e º sm e º ºs sº m s m s e º sº sº s º sº sº º tº ºs s is tº º 6,500.00 63,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * e º s º a s = e º ºs I & sº º sº º sº sº e s tº * * * * * | * * e e s ∈ º $ tº º sº tº e º & 13,500.00 51,500.00 |............... DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 20,000.00 |............... DO.
138.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 138.00 49,862.00 55,000.00 |............... June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * g º 9 as sº a º y 5,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *s a s a s = < * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l) D.
32 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
Bl]ILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED BUT
| -
f * * - Amount ex-
Location. Buildings. Class of work. º Of 8. #d pºnded for
- , t → e pprop "|site and land.
Owego, N. Y........ Post office . . . . . . . . Site and building-- $75,000.00 $15,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . -
Paintsville, Ky......|..... do------------- Site--------------. 5,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Palatka, Fla........] ..... do------------. Site and building.. 60,000.00 27,000.00 $4,000.00 |
Park City, Utah. . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 30,000.00 30,000.00 7,000.00
Pasco, Wäsh............. do-------------| Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 |...... -------- * ,
Passaic, N. J. ... ----|- . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 25,000.00 25,000.00 25,000.00
Paxton, Ill... . . . . . . . . .---do-------- - - - - - Site and building.. 60,000.00 12,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . F
Pendleton, Oreg.....]..... do-------------|----- do------------- 130,000.00 57,000.00 8,000.00
Philadelphia, Pa....] U #. t e d States | Coal bunkers. . . . . . 20,000.00 20,000.00 |..............
* Mint. - - -
Philippi, W. Va..... Post office and Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000.00 8,000.00 8,000.00
- COUrthouse. -
Phoenixville, Pa.... Post office... . . . . . . Site and building.. 80,000.00 16,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Pikeville, Ky. . . . . . . Post office and | Site. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7,500.00 --------------|--------------
Courthouse. -
Pittsburgh, Pa. - . . . . L a b or a to r y, Building. . . . . . . . . . 500,000.00 Tö0,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -J.
B u r e a Ul of - +
Mines. - -
Pittsburgh, Pa..!..... Post office... . . . . . . Site.-------------- 1,000,000.00 | 1,000,000.00 942,343.91 ||
Pittsburg, Tex... . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 55,000.00 , 5,000.00 ||----..........
Pittston, Pa........ . . . . . . do-------------|----- do------------- 100,000.00 20,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . -
Plainfield, N. J...... ----- do-------------|----- do------------- 150,000.00 70,000.00 30,000.00
Plymouth, Ind......|..... do------------- Site--------------. 10,000.00 10,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . .
Portland, Ma........ Q u a r a n t in e Q u a ran t in e 67,500.00 43,880.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . -
Station. facilities. -
Portland, Oreg...... Post office and | Building. . . . . . . . . . 1,000,000.00 160,000.00 200. 35 |.
Courthouse. -
Pottstown, Pa. . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- 90,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . ----|-------------- -
Poughkeapsie, N. Y. . . . . . do------------- Additional land 68,000.00 28,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . -
and extension.
Pratt, Kans..... . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building-- 60,000.00 7,400.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Prescott, Ariz. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------- 7,500.00 7,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . -
PreScott, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building.. 50,000.00 --------------|-------------. .
Prestonsburg, ICy...|..... do------------. Site.-------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . .- - - - - -
Provincetown, Mass. Post office and ||..... do------------- 8,000.00 8,000.00 |..............
- customhouse.
Pulaski, Va. . . . . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 |....----------|-.............
Putnam, Conn. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building. 65,000.00 45,000.00 8,500.00
Quitman, Ga... . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . - - - - - - - - - do------------- 50,000.00 15,000.00 5,000.00
Raton, N. Mex... . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . ... ------- do------------- 75,000.00 7, 200.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Reading, Mass......|- . . . . do......!- - - - - - - Building---------- 55,000.00 --------------|--------------
Reading, Pa.........|..... do------------- Additicnal land 135,000.00 95,000.00 35,000.00
and extension.
Red Bank, N. J. . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . Site------------- `-- 25,000.00 25,000.00 25,000.00
Red Bluff, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 60,000.00 12,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Redfield, S. Dak. ...i..... do.... . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Reedy Island, Del..] Quarantine sta- Laboratory and 33,500.00 33, 500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
tion. crematory.
Rhinelander, Wis...| Post office . . . . . . . . Site and building. . 91,000.00 5,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Richfield, Utah. . . . . . . . . . do------------- Building. . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 |... -----------|------. - - - - - - -
Ridgway, Pa... . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ do------------- 80,000.00 |... -----------|-------------.
Ripon, Wis.........]..... do------------- Site and building. . 75,000.00 10,400.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Robinson, Ill... . . . . . . . . . . do-------------|----- do... . . . . . . . . . . . , 70,000.00 25,000.00 20,000.00
Rochester, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . do------------- '- - - - - do------------- 70,000.00 8, 200.00 --------------
Rochester, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Site--------------- 30,000.00 30,000.00 26,000.00
Rockingham, N. C. . . . . . . do-------------|----. do------------- 5,000.00 |... -----------|--------------
Rockville, Conn. . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 55,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * *
Rogers, Ark... . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . Site and building--| 70,000.00 4,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Rogersville, Tenn. . . . . . . . do------------- Site--------------- 3,000.00 2,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Roseburg, Oreg. . . . . . . . . . do. A.......... Building. . . . . . ----| 100,000.00 --------------|-------------.
ROSSVille, Ga... . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Rumford, Me..... . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 --------------|---...... ----.
Russellville, Ark. . . . . . . . . . do------------- Site and building. . 50,000.00 6,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Rutherſordton, N. C.|..... do------------- Site--------------- 5,000.00 |. . . . .... • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Saco, Me------------|--... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building-. 60,000.00 ----------------------------
St. Johns, Oreg......|..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site--------------- 5,000.00 --------------|--------------
St. Johnsbury, Vt. . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building... 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
St. Louis, Mo. . . . . . . Customhouse......! Extension. . . . . . . . 100,000.00 100,000.00 |..............
Po-------------- Subtreasury. . . . . . Building....... --- 1,000,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -]. . . . . . . . . . . ---
St. Marys, Ohio. . . . . Post office. . . . . . . . Site. -------------- 7,500.00 --------------|--------------
St. Peter, Minn. . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 60,000.00 2,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
St. Petersburg, Fla...|..... do. . . . . * - - - - - - ..] Building. . . . . . . . . . 80,000.00 55,000.00 |..... . . . . . . . . .
Salamanca, N. Y. . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . ----|----- do------------ 75,000.00 --------------|---...........
Salem, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Salem, N. J. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . .]----- do. ----------- 10,000.00 9,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Salem, Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 65,000.00 10,250.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Salisbury, Moi... . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-----------. 90,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
33
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914–continued.
72785–15—3
| To be sold.
. Amount e Total e
* Outstanding Available Amount to be
expended for * * * * * g e expended and º Surplus fund. | Date of act.
i.gS. liabilities.” “...i. balances. |appropriated. p --
* = s. s. sº * * * * * * * * $14,875.00 $14,875. 00 $125. 0ſ) $60,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - I s = * * * * * * * * * * * * = | * * = = e = * * * * * * * ~ * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000. 00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
s sº e s = a as as a sº s = e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,000.00 23,000. 00 33,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* = = a, e s = e = s = a, e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,000.00 23,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
• s = * * * * * * * * * * * 10,000.00 10,000.00 |.... -----------|--------------|---------------| Mar. 4, 1913
- - - - - - - - as e = * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 25,000.00 ---------------|--------------|---------------| June 25, 1910
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - * * * * * * * * * * * * = - I - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * 12,000.00 48,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
$72.50 50.00 S, 122.50 48,877.50 73,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
115.42 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 115. 42 9,884. 58 |- - - - - - - - -----|--------------- June 30, 1906
... = * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * s = * * * * * * * * 50 50 15,909. 50 64,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
. . . . . . . - - - - - - - | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * } • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IDO.
1,032.50 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1,032. 50 148,967. 50 350,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
= e s = * * * * ~ * = * * ~ I • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 942,348, 9.. [... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $57,656.09 June 30, 1906
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 5,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000. ()0 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
• - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 20,000. ſ.0 80,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. ! O.
207.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30,207.00 39,793.00 80,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - May 30, 1908
* = * * * * * * * * = a - a * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
10.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10.00 43,870.00 23,620.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aug. 24, 1912
• ‘s s = s. s. a. s = e s as sº º f * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 200. 35 159,799. G5 840, 000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
- * = − = e s = e = * * = = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 90,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - l}O.
= a - e = e s = - = − = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 28,000.00 40,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . T)0.
= e a s = e = e s = a, e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,400.00 32,600. G0 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 7,500.00 |---------------|--------------|------------. . . DO.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. T)0.
= = e = e s = e s = = = < a. i - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 --------------|--------------- I)0.
• * e s s = e s = e = * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,000.00 ----------------------------. DO.
= < e < e = e = = * = = < − i < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . L) O.
156.00 l--------------- 8,656.00 36,344.00 20,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
55.00 l--------------- 5,055.00 9,945. 00 35,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * = e º sº º ºs 7,200.00 7, 200.00 ||--------------- 67,800.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mar. 4, 1913
• = e s = s. s = e s = e = s = 1 = = * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 55,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - D O.
* = s m = e s = s. a = a as s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 35,000.00 60,000.00 40,000.00 |............... May 30, 1908
s = * * * * = * = as as as sº s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 25,000.00 ---------------|--------------|---------------| June 25, 1910
* * * = a, as a = * = = * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 12,000.00 48,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] Mar. 4, 1913
a, e = * * = a, as a s = a a e s - sº e º ºs º º sº a s = e = * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 65,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* = & s = ºn s = e s = - e s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * = e º * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 33,500.00 ||--------------|---------------| June 23, 1913
* * * * * * = a, e s = e º sº e i º ºs e º 'º º sº * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,500.00 85,500.00 ||---------------| Mar. 4, 1913
* = = s = e s = m, s = * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 55,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* = a- sº s = e s s s as a as as sº I = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 80,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s = e s = e = * = e = * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,400.00 64,600.00 -----...------. DO.
110.00 --------------- 20, 110.00 4,890.00 45,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
* * * * = * = a, e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,200.00 61,800.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
e = * = e s = e = e s = e s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 26,000.00 ---------------|-------------- 4,000.00 || June 25, 1910
e s = e = s = a, as s = e s s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] Mar. 4, 1913
* = a a s = = e s = e s = e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 55,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
* = s = e = * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,000.00 66,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
= s = e s = s. a. s. s. s = e = . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 2,000.00 1,000.00 ||--------------- Do.
= e = * = < e < * * * * * = | * ~ * = * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |.......... ----. Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 5,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------- IDO.
* * * * * = s. a. s. s. s = e s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
s = e s = = e s s = e s = e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * w = * * * * 6,000.00 44,000, 00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
= = < * * * * = = * = = e = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * = * * * * * * * * * : * = = * * * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
s = e = a e s = e s = e s as I = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 --------------- Do.
s = e s = s. s = e, e º º sº sº I = * * * * * * * * * * * * * s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
15.00 --------------- 15.00 99,985.00 --------------|--------------- June 25, 1910
* = & s a s = a a s ºr sº e I s = s. s. sº sº * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * { * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 1,000,000.00 |............... Mar. 4, 1913
s = = a s e s sº as as s = a = | * * * * s = e = * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ,500. * * * * * * * * * g e º ºs e as DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * is e I is e º ºs s = * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 2,000.00 58,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I)0.
25.00 --------------- 25.00 54,975.00 25,000.00 ||--------------- June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * = e s = e s \ is a s s m = * * * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 75,000.00 |...............| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * = a as a s = a, s = | * = e s is a s = e º e º e s tº I sº sº e s = º º ºs = º is e º & º 5,000.00 --------------|--------------- DO.
* as s a s sº as sº as e a s = e i = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9,500.00 500.00 l--------------- DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,250.00 10,250.00 --------------. 54,750.00 --------------. DO.
* * s gº º ºs e º ºr a s sº sº sº sº * * * * * * *, - - - - - - - " - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - " - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 90,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
IBUILDINGS AIPPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTEIORIZED BUT
* * - Amount ex-
Location. Buildings, Class of work. Pº Of 2. fººd ended for
s pprop 'ſ site and land.
San Bernardino, Cal. Post office . . . . . . . . Site--------------- $20,000.00 $20,000.00 $16,500.00
Sandersville, Ga-----|-...-- do------------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 5,000.00 |..............
Sandpoint, Idaho. --|----- do------------ Site and building.. 70,000.00 --------------|--------------
Sandusky, Ohio.....|- - - - - do------------ Building. -- - - - - - - - 130,000.00 --------------|--------------
Sanford, Éla......I.I.I.I. do------------ Site and building--| 70,000.00 7,500.00 --------------
San Francisco, Cal. - | Quarantine station] Wharf, buildings, 55,000.00 55,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
€IC.
San Luis Obispo, Cal Post office. . . . . . . . Site and building.. 80,000.00 9,000.00 |........ ------
San Pedro, Cal...... Post office and . . . . . d'O - - - - - - - - - - - - 60,000.00 6,000.00 |..............
customhouse. -
Santa Fe, N. Mex...] Courthouse, etc. -- Aº Vault 1,100.00 1,100.00 ||--------------
acilities.
D0-------------- Post office and | Site and building...] 295,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Courthouse. - -
Saranac Lake, N. Y. Post office...... . . . . . . . . do------------ 90,000.00 --------------|--------------
Savanna, Ill---------|----- do------------ Building-...------ 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Sayre, Pa. ----------|----- do------------ Site and building-- 80,000.00 8,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Seattle, Wash... ----|..... do------------|----- 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - 500,000.00 200,000.00 169, 500.00
Seguin, Tex---------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 7,500.00 --------------|-------------.
Seymour, Conn - - - --|--... do------------ Building. . . . . . . . . . 60,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Seymour, Ind-------|----- do------------ Site and building-. 60,000.00 32,000.00 12,000.00
Shawnee, Okla-..... t --do----------------- do------------ 125,000.00 21,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Shelby, N. C. - - - - - - - - - - - do------------ Building. --------- 55,000.00 ||--------------|-------------.
Shelbyville, Ind.....|..... do------------ Site and building.. 80,000.00 --------------|--------------
Shelbyville, Ky.....|..... do------------ Building -- - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Sherman, Tex.......| Post office and | Additional land... 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Courthouse.
Sidney, Ohio........ Post office--------. Building---------- 70,000.00 --------------|--------------
Sikeston, Mo........]. ----do------------ ite--------------- 7,500.00 7,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Sioux City, Iowa.... Post office, court- || Lookouts. . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 1,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
house, and cus- #
tomhouse. e
Skowhegan, Me.....| Post office--------- Building.. . . . . . . . . 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Smyrna, Del --------|----- do------------ Site and building.. 35,000.00 25,000.00 5,000.00
Somersworth, N. H.l..... do------------ ite--------------- 7,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .l.-------------
South Bethlehem, ... -- do------------ Building-...------- 100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
I?a.
South Boston, Va.--|----- do------------|--...-do------------ 50,000.00 ||--------------|-------------.
Southbridge, Mass. -|-.... do------------ Site and building.. 80,000.00 --------------|--------------
South Framingham, ..... do------------ Site--------------- 25,000.00 20,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mass.
Spanish Fork, Utah.|- - - - - do------------ Site and building-. 50,000.00 --------------|------------ --
Sparta, Wis.--------|----- do------------|-----do------------ 60,000.00 37,000.00 10,000.00
Spring Valley, Ill. --|- - - - - do------------ ite--------------- 10,000.00 6,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Stamford, Conn.----|----- do------------ Site and building...] 150,000.00 50,000.00 | Donated - - - -
Stamford, Tex......]..... do------------| Building---------- 50,000.00 |--------------|-------------.
State College, Pa....|..... do------------ Site and building. . 75,000.00 15,685.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Statesboro, Ga. -----|----- do------------ I3uilding---------- 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Sterling, Colo - - - ----|----- do------------ ite--------------- 15,000.00 15,000.00 |- - - - - - * * * * * * * *
Steubenville, Ohio..]-...-- do------------ Site and building...| 120,000.00 65,000.00 35,000.00
Stuggart, Ark. ------|----- do------------ ite----- - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00 4,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Sunbury, Pa. -------|----- do------------ Building-...------- 100,000.00 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Sweetwater, Tex....] ..... do------------ ite--------------- 7,500.00 6,500.00 6,500.00
Sylacauga, Ala----------- do------------|----- do------------ 5,000.00 5,000.00 5,000.00
Syracuse, N. Y. - - - - - - - - - do------------ T3uilding. . . . . . . . . . 550,000.00 10,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Tamaqua, Pa............ do------------ Site and building.. 75,000.00 --------------|--------------
Tampa Bay, Fla....| Quarantine sta- || Attendants’ quar- 65,000.00 65,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
ion. ters, etc
Tarentum, Pa. - .... Post office. - - - - - - - Building---------- 60,000.00 --------------|--------------
Taylor, Tex---------|----- do------------ it?--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 5,000.00
Taylorville, Ill. -----|- - - - - do------------ Building... -- : - - - - 60,000.00 |... . . . . . . • * * * * | * * * * * * * * = • * * * *
The Dalles, Oreg....|..... do------------ Site and building...| 104,000.00 44,000.00 14,000.00
Thibodaux, La------|----- do------------|----- do------------ 50,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . r
Thomasville, Ga. ---|----- do----------------- do------------ 70,000.00 24; 000.00 9,000.00
Thomasville, N. C. - |..... do------------|----- do------------ 55,000.00 8,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Thomson, Ga. ------|----- do------------ ite--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tiffin, Ohio.........]..... do-----------. Site and building.. 97,500.00 27,500.00 20,000.00
Titusville, Pa.......]..... do------------ Building---------- 75,000.00 |............ |--|--------------
Toccoa, Ga. --------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Toledo, Ohio. -------|----- do------------ Remodeling. . . . . . . 25,000.00 25,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Tomah, Wis........|- - - - - do-----------. Site and building. . 55,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Trenton, Mo. -------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 3,000.00
Tucson, Ariz........ Post º: and [...-do ------------- 15,000.00 15,000.00 15,000.00
Courthouse. • .
Tullahoma, Tenn... Post office. . . . . . . . Site and building.. 50,000.00 7,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Tulsa, Okla. -------. Post office and | Building.......... 310,000.00 135,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
courthouse.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
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expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.--Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.

Amount
expended for
buildings.
Outstanding
liabilities.
Total
expended and
outstanding.
Available
balances.
$
Amount to be
appropriated.
Surplus fund.
Date of act.
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Mar. 4, 1913
DO
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DO.
June 23, 1913
Mar, 4, 1913
Do.
Aug. 26, 1912
Mar. 4, 1913
O.
June 25, 1910
Mar, 4, 1913
Do.
Do.
Do.
DO.
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Do.
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Mar. 4, 1913
June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
Do.
Do.
Do.
Do.
Do.
Jitne 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
June 25, 1910
Mar, 4, 1913
Do
DO.
Do.
June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
Do
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Oct. 22, 1913
Mar, 4, 1913
Do.
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60,000.00
60,000.00
45,000.00
46,000.00
47,000.00
70,000.00
75,000.00
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June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
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June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
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Mar. 4, 1913
May 30, 1908
June 25, 1910
Mar. 4, 1913
June 25, 1910
36 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement prepared for House Committee on Appropriations relative to amounts
|BUILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTEIORIZED BUT

* - Amount ex-
- * - * * • * Limit of Amount . . . .
Location. Buildings. Class of work. COSt. appropriated. |s #: * -
Twin Falls, Idaho... Post office. - - - - - - - Building.......... $85,000.00 --------------|--------------
Tyrone, Pa. --------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 25,000.00 $24,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Union Springs, Ala--|----- do------------|----- do------------ 5,000.00 4,500.00 $4,500.00
§. Mo------|----- do------------|----- do------------ 7,500.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Urbana, Ohio. ------|----- do------------|----- do------------ 15,000.00 15,000.00 13,000.00
Utica, N. Y. --------|----- do----------------- do--------- - - -] 100,000.00 100.000. 00 99,500.00
Do-------------- Post office, custom Additional land 405,000.00 35,000.00 35,000.00
house, and court- and extension.
house.
Uvalde, "ex- - - - - - - - Post office. - - - - - - - Site and building. . 50,000.00 15,000.00 1,000.00
Valley City, N. Dak-|----. do------------ Building-...-: - - - - - 75,000.00 --------------|--------------
Valparaiso, Ind-----|----- do------------ Site and building. . 95,000.00 8, 200.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Vancouver, Wash. ... Post , office and | Building. . . . . . . . . . 140,000.00 --------------|--------------
land office.
Van Wert, Ohio.----| Post office. - - - - - - -|---:-do------------ 70,000.00 --------------|--------------
Vermillion, S. Dak--|-- - - - do------------ Site---------- : - - - - 7,500.00 4,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Vernal, Utah - - - - - - - - - - - - do------------ Site and building.. 50,000.00 4,750.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Vernon, ' ex- - - - - - - - - - - - - do----------------- do-----------. 50,000.00 1.00 --------------
Vineland, N. J. ... --|- - - - - do------------|----- do------------ 70,000.00 12,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Vinton, Iowa. - - - - - -|----- do-------- - - - - - - - - - do------------ 70,000.00 9,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Wadesboro, N.C.----|- - - - - do------------ Site--------------- 5,000.00 --------------|--------------
Wahoo, Nebr. ------|- - - - - do------------ Building . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -----------
Walden, N. Y -------|- - - - - do------------ Site and building. . 65,000.00 7,500.00 7,500.00
Waltham, Mass. . . . . . . . . . do----------------- do------------ 115,000.00 S5,000.00 46,051. 20
Warren, R. I.-------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Warrenton, Va.------|----- do------------ Building. - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Warsaw, Ind--------|----- do------------ Site--------------- 10,000.00 10,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Washington, D.C.--| Butler Building... Elevator. - - - - - - - - - 7,000.00 7,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Do. ------------- lſ eating plant..... Building---------- 1.494, 104.00 150,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
D0-------------- Building, Interior, . . . . . do------------ 2,596,000.00 40,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Department of
* ficeS.
Do. ------------- State, Justice, etc.--| Site - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 200,000. 00 160,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
D0-------------- N º Archives | Building-......... 1,500,000.00 5,000.00 |..............
ulldling.
Washington, Ga----. Post office - - - - - - - - Site and building.. 55,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Washington, Ind----|----- do------------ Building-- - - - - - - - - 60,000.00 --------------|--------------
Washington, Iowa..]-...-- do----------------- do------------ 80,000.00 --------------|--------------
Washington, Mo - - --|- - - - - do------------ Site and building-. 60,000.00 6,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Washington Court |..... do----------------- do------------ 80,000.00 18,000.00 |... . . - - - - - - - - -
House, Ohio.
Waterloo, N. Y - - - - - - - - - - do------------ Building---------. 55,000.00 --------------|--------------
Water Valley, Miss...|..... do------------ Site and building-- 50,000:00 7,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Waupun, Wis.------|----- do------------ Site--------------. 5,000.00 5,000. 00 3,400.00
Waynesboro, Ga. ...|- - - - - do. ----------- Site--------------- 5,000.00 5,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Waynesboro, Va.- ...|..... do. ----------- Site and building.. 57,500.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Waynesburg, Pa. ----|- - - - - do. ---------------- do. ----------- 75,000.00 15,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Waynesville, N. C. . . . . . . . do. ----------- Building. . . . . - - - - - 65,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Webb City, Mo. . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site and building. . 70,000.00 34,000.00 . 7,500.00
Wellsburg, W. Va...|.. . . . do. ---------------- do. ----------- 60,000.00 15,000.00 13,950.00
Wenatchee, Wash...] . . . . . do. ----------- Building---------. 85,000.00 --------------|------------ * -
Westplains, Mo. . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site--------------. 7,500.00 5,000.00 5,000.00
West Point, Va. . . . . . . . . . do. ---------------- do. ----------- t 5,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Wilkesboro, N. C. . . Post office and | Site and building.. 60,000.00 22,000.00 2,000.00
Courthouse.
Williamson, W. Va..| Post office. . . . . . . . . Building. . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 --------------|--------------
Willow, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . e. Site and building.. 75,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Wilmington, N. C. -. Customhouse and Additional land 600,000.00 180,000.00 67,750.00
appraiser's stores. ... and building.
Do-------------- Marine hospital...] Medical officers’ 5,000.00 5,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
quarters.
Wilmington, Ohio... Post office. . . . . . . . . Site and building.. 75,000.00 12,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Wilson, N. C. - - - - - - - - - - - - do. -----------|----- do. ----------- 60,000.00 45,000.00 10,000.00
Winchester, Ky. . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Second story - - - - - - 30,000.00 --------------|--------------
Winchester, Mass. . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Site and building-. 75,000.00 20,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Winnemucca, New . . . . . . . do. . . .--------|----- do. ----------- 60,000.00 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Woodbury, N. J . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- Building. ---...--. 55,000.00 ----------------------------
Woodstock, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . do. ----------. Site--------------- 17,000.00 --------------|-------------.
Woodstock, Va. . . . . . . . . . . do------------|----- do. ----------- 5,000.00 4,250.00 - - - - - - - - - . . . . .
Woodward, Okla.... Post office and | Site and building... 110,000.00 8,000.00 |...— ..........
courthouse.
Wyandotte, Mich... Post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. ----------- 75,000.00 15,950.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Yoakum, Tex.......|..... do------------- Building.......... 65,000.00 --------------|--------------
Yonkers, N.Y.-----|----- do..... . . . . . . . . Site and building. 500,000.00 250,000.00 103.56
Ypsilanti, Mich.....|..... do------------------ do------------- 75,000.00 20,000.00 7,700.00
58,676,191.04 || 16,262,379.04 || 4,270,840. 14
1 Surplus fund.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 37
expended and condition of appropriations for public buildings, etc.—Continued.
NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION, DEC. 1, 1914–Continued.
Amount cº Total & -
* 2° ºr , Outstanding • Available Amount to be * -
X ( I * : i 34, 3 x & - e 62 g
€ §;" liabilities. º jalances appropriated. Sº plus fund. Date of act
gº º ºs e < * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * sº gº as s sº s = * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * $85,000.00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
tº sº º gº tº e º s s sº sº s º º f * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---- $24,000.00 1,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
e º gº gº sº m º ºs s as * * * * : * is & s = * * * * * * * * * * $4,500.00 - ... -- - - - - - - - - - 500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
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e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 13,000.00 ---------------|-------------- $2,000.00 June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 99, 500.00 ---------------|-------------. 500. Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 35,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 370,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -| Mar. 4, 1913
$85.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,035.00 13,965.00 35,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
º e º ºs e º e º 'º - ºr * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 75,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -| Mar. 4, 1913
• * * * * * * * * * ~ * * * : * ~ * * * - - - - - - - - - - I - = e = - - - - - - - - - - - 8, 200.00 86,800.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
sº e º e s s as * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1 s is sº * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 140,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
as e s e º e s e s a s as s = i e s e º e s = e s is º a tº º is as ºn e s is sº e s s = * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 70,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T}o.
- - - -----------|---------------|--------------- 4, 500.00 3,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s: º e º 'º me • * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *s as º ºs s = 4,750.00 45,250.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* = s. s. m. s m = * * * * * * $1.00 1.00 --------------- 49,999.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
as s = e s s is is e s = e º ºs º is as s a s & sº * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 12,000.00 58,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
is a m = e g = * * * * *g ºn s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9,000.00 61,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
es e de s is as at º a sº e º ºs s s sº * * * * * * * * * , s sº is sº I e s = * = * * * * * * * * * * : * * * s = e < * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* = * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * = s. s. * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 --------------. Do.
as a s = * * * * s s = * * * I e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] 57, 500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 46,051. 20 38,948.80 30,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,000.00 10,000.00 i---------------|--------------|---------------| Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * = • * * * * * 50,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10,000.00 --------------|--------------- Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,000.00 --------------|---------------| Aug. 1, 1914
14,851. 53 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14,851. 53 135,148.47 | 1,344, 104.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 23, 1913
1,833.77 425.00 2,258.77 37,741.23 2,556,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
81,077.96 118,922.04 200,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 40,000.00 140,000.00 June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * ----------------|--------------- 5,000.00 1,495,000.00 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
s sº gº sº e º ºs e º ºs e º 'º & 4,000.00 4,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -] 55,000.00 14,000.00 Do.
* * * * * * * = e º as et s = | s is a s º ºs e s = s. s = * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * s = * * * * * * * * * * 60,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = I sº as ºs e s = * * * * * * * * * 80,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
sº e º ºs s sº e s sº is tº se º sº in e s & s = * * * * * * * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6,500.00 53, 500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* = sº * * * * * * * * * * * 15,000.00 15,000.00 3,000.00 62,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* e º ºs º is as a sm e º is sº tº sº e s as s = e = * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1 s ºn s is a s a s º ºs º ºs º ºs m. 55,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
& sº º s as a s is as e s s & s as a s sº º e º sº s = e s a s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,000.00 43,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do. -
s is as * * G - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,400.00 ----------------------------- 1,600.00 June 25, 1910
4- - - - - - sº * * = - e º & 4,093.75 4,093.75 906.25 --------------|---------- ----- Mar. 4, 1913
ge º sº sº e º sº º ºr ºs = º sº s 7,500.00 7,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
as as sº sº gº sº º sº sº e º ºs sº * i s is gº º ºs e º ºs e is a sº * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 15,500.00 59,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DO.
s as sº s = * * * * * s sº e º s et s = e s = º ºs e s sº as e º s = e º ºs e s s as * * * * * * | * * * as e º e º a s = * * * * 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
116.50 --------------- 7,616.50 26,383.50 36,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - June 25, 1910
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 13,950.00 1,050.00 45,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * DO.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 85,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - IMar. 4, 1913
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,500.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
$ sº s as e s = * * * * * * * 5,000.00 5,000.00 ---------------|--------------|--------------. Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * is as s = *, * e s = * * * * * * 2,000.00 20,000.00 38,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
& e s = * * * * * * * * * * } = e s = e s sº sº sº * * * * * * : * * * * * * * *-------|-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
• - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 75,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
688. 53 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68,438, 53 111,561. 47 || 420,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
e as sº sº e s sº sº sº ºn as º ºs s , sº se e s = s. s a s is a wº s = e º 'º as * * * * s = * * * * * * * 5,000.00 ----------------------------- June 23, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * = i < * = s = < e < * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 12,500.00 62,500.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10.00 10,010.00 34,990.00 15,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . May 30, 1908
s = e as a ºn as e º sº se sº sº i s as * sº º ºs s sº º e s = sº sº sº I s sº is a s e = * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 30,000.00 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mar. 4, 1913
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 20,000.00 55,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
e is º ºr e = s. sº me • * * * * 5,000.00 5,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 55,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
s is s = s. s. sº e s = e as sº sº I e º sº sº e s s = e = * = sº as º f * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * I e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * 55,000.00 - - - - - - . . . . . . . . . DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * sº e i e s as sº e º s sº sº s = * * * * | * * * * * * * * is as s as * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 17,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * is e º e s s = e s is s as sº a sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4,250.00 750.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
& © as e s m ºn s = e s sº sº sº e s is º ºs ºs º e s is s as sº a s : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 8,000.00 || 102,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * I s = s. s = e s = * * * * * * = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 15,950.00 59,050.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * s = * * * * * * * * * * * * B = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 65,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do.
8.91 --------------- 112.47 249,887. 53 || 250,000.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . June 30, 1906
99.40 --------------- 7,799.40 12,200. 60 55,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . June 25, 1910
113,208. 73 611,380. 56 || 4,995,429.43 11,252,441.52 42,413,812.00 | 1 §§§
2 73,272.00


3 T) eficiency.
38 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
RECAPITULATION OF PUBLIC B JILDINGS APPROPRIATED FOR OR AUTHORIZED,
BUT NOT IN CO JRSE OF CONSTRUCTION DEC. 1, 1914.
Limit of cost of sites and buildings.......................... --------------...-- ----------. $58,676, 191.04
Expended for property (sites and land). . . . . . . . $4,270,840. 14
Expended for buildings... --------------------- 113,208. 73
Outstanding liabilities on account of sites and
buildings----...-- A-----------* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 611,380. 56
Total.-------------------------------------------------- $4,995,429.43
Amount carried to Surplus fund------------------------------ 87,780.09
Balance available on appropriations. . . . . . . . . . ... 11,252,441.52 -
Less deficits, to wit:
Arkadelphia, Ark. --------------. S72.00
Linton, Ind---------------------- 1,000.00
Moultrie, Ga. -------------------- 1,200.00
Tamaqua, Pa. ------------------- 27,000.00
Washington, D. C., buildings: i
Departments of State, Justice, - -
and Commerce and Labor...... 40,000.00
Washington, Ga------------------ 4,000.00
— 73,272.00 -
Excess of available balance over deficit....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11, 179, 169.52
Total amount appropriated.----------------------------------------------- $16,262,379.04
Total amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------------ 42,413,812.00
58,676, 191.04
INFORMATION AS TO STATUS OF THE SEVERAL PUBLIC BUILD-
INGS IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION OR AUTHORIZED FOR
WHICH ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN SUBIMITTED IN THE REGULAR
AININTUAL ROOR OF ESTIMIATIES FOR, AEPE*ROPERIATIONS FOR THE
EISCAL YEAR 1916 AND IN HOUSE DOCUMENT NO. 1430, FUR-
NISHED BY THE SUPERVISING ARCHITECT, AS INDICATED IN
THE FOREGOING LETTER, FROM THE SECRETARY OF THE
TREASURY AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUEST OF THE
COIVIIMITTEE ON AIPPIROPIRIATIONS AT A HIEARING FIELD IDECEM-
IBER, 16, 1914.
ABERDEEN (WASH.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost––––––––––––––––––– - - $112, 500
Appropriations to date f - - -º- – - -
A mount to be appropriated.--------------- 112, 500
Estimate for 1916–----------------- 1, 000
It is believed that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and surveying of the site.
The amount estimated for will therefore be required.
ALBANY (OREG.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost------------------ - - $75,000
Appropriations to date________ — — — — 65,000
Amount to be appl’Opriated.------- * * mºs * * * 10, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––– 10, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916, and the amount estimated for will therefore be required.
ALBION (MICH.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost––––––––––––– * * * - $70,000
Appropriations to date * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = ** - 14, 000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 56,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 40, 000
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 39
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916. The amount esti-
mated for will therefore be required. -
ALEXANDRIA (LA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost - * * $65,000
Appropriations to date - :- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
. Amount to be appropriated -- - 65, 000
Estimated for 1916____ 40,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. The amount estimated for
will therefore be required. s
ALEXANDRIA, LA., RENT OF BUILDINGS.
[See p. 114.]
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of cost (Submitted) –––– $4,000
Appropriations to date * = a- - - - - - - - - - - = <= ~ * = = − = – = - - - -s = - *-* = - - - - - - - -
Almount to be appropriated——
Estimate for 1916 - * 4,000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto.
ALLIANCE (NEBR.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $75,000
Appropriations to date — — — — — — — — — — — — — —----
Amount to be appropriated - - 75,000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––– - - - 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and surveying the site.
The amount estimated for will therefore be required.
ALLIANCE (OHIO) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $135,000
Appropriations to date 115,000
Amount to be appropriated.-----------. - - - - - - 20, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––– - ––– 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the close of the present calendar year and completed during the fiscal
year 1916. The amount estimated for will therefore be required.
AMARILLO (TEX.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost ––––––––––––––––– + - - - - $200, 000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------. 67,000
Amount to be appropriated------------------------------------- 133,000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––– - - - * * 133,000
40 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
This building is under contract, and is to be completed during the
fiscal year 1916. The amount estimated for will therefore be
required.
ANOKA (MINN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost - - $50, 000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------ *
Almount to be appropriated * 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 10, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916. The amount estimated for
Will therefore be required.
ANTIGO (wis.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost ––––– . * * * * $70,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
Amount to be appropriated——. - 70, 000
Estimate for 1916 t - 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site. -
ARDMORE (OKLA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $150, 000
Appropriations to date - * * * * * * * * * * * * * = mºm s-t = * * * * * 55, 000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 95,000
Estimate for 1916 ºm 95,000
It is expected that this work will soon be placed under contract
and completed during the fiscal year 1916.
ARKADELPHIA (ARK.) POST OFFICE.
[See pp. 119, 128.]
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COst - *s. - - - !----------------- $55,000
Appropriations to date - - — — — — — —
Amount to be appropriated------------------------------------- 55, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 55,000
The drawings for this building are to be donated to the Govern-
ment, and it is expected that the building will be completed before
the close of the fiscal year 1916.
ARKANSAS CITY (KANs.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $75,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 40, 000
Amount to be appropriated - * sm * * * * * * * *-* * * * m sm º ºsmºs emº ºm mº sºme sº me amº - sm mºs. m. 35,000
Estimate for 1916 * * * * 35,000
This work is under contract to be completed early in the fiscal year
1916. |
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 41
ASHLAND (KY.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost --------------------------- -------- $100, 000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ |
Amount to be appropriated.----------- — — — 100, 000
Estimate for 1916 * * - 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
ATTLEBORO (MASS.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $100, 000
Appropriations to date ------------- -ºr- * * * *
Amount to be appropriated * * - tº * * *-* * * * * * *-* * * * * * * m ºr mº mº ºms ºm me amº ºm: 100, 000
Estimated for 1916 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
AUGUSTA (GA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (NEw).
For completion of building under present limit: -
Limit of cost ---------------------------------------------------- $325,000
Appropriations to date-------------------------------------------- 275, 000
Amount to be appropriated.---------------- - - - 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 50, 000
It is expected that this work will be completed during the third
quarter of the fiscal year 1916. -
AURORA (NEBR.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost ---------------------------------------------------- $50,000
Appropriations to date-------------------------------------------
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 50,000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------------------------ 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site. *
BAINBRIDGE (GA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost ---------------------- <------------------- ___ $50,000
Appropriations to date ------------------------------------------- 35, 000
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 15, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 15,000
It is expected that this work will be completed early in the fiscal
year 1916. .
BAKERSFIELD (CAL.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost ------------------------ * * * *m ºr amº ºme ºmº º ºs- * * * * *- “º º ºs º- $135,000
Appropriations to date-------------------------------------------- -------
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 135, 000
Estimate for 1916 ------------------- 1, 000
42 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site. - -
BALTIMORE (MD.) IMMIGRANT STATION.
For continuation of building under present limit:
\
Limit of COSt ––––––––– ----------------------------------------- $550, 000
Appropriations to date ------------------------------------------– 110,000
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 440, 000
Estimate for 1916 - - 300,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the fiscal year 1916.
BANGOR (M.E.) POST OFFICE.
\
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $440, 000
Appropriations to date 400, 000
Amount to be appropriated__ * * * * * * *- :- º gº -ºs = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 40, 000
Estimate for 1916____ - & 40, 000
This work will be completed during the fiscal year 1916.
BARNESVILLE (GA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt.__ $50,000
Appropriations to date_-_ * * * *m; sº º smºs ms me me sº- am -e ºs emm & “º m sºm sm ºm, sºme ºm, ºmºsº amm amº ass sº
AD]ount to be appropriated 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 w 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site. -
BARTOW (FLA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost----------------------------- sº º mº mº $50,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
Amount to be appropriated - - * 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 * -s 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site. - s
BATAVIA (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $85,000
Appropriations to date * * - , 5,000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------ S0, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 40, 000
. It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded dur-
ing the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
f
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 43
BEARDSTOWN (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of Gost-------------- $55,000
Appropriations to date- * * 18, 000
Amount to be appropriated____________ 37, 000
EStimate for 1916_ 27, 000
It is expected that this work will be under contract soon after the
commencement of the fiscal year 1916 and well on the way toward
completion before its close.
BEDFORD (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COst------- $80,000
Appropriations to date 30, 000
Amount to be appropriated & 50, 000
Estimate for 1916–– s 50, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the second
quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
BELTON (TEx.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Ilimit of COSt $55,000
Appropriations to date
Amount to be appropriated 55,000
Estimate for 1916 10, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the last quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
\
BERKELEY (CAL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $180,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 160, 000
Amount to be appropriated__ - - - - 20, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––– -- 20, 000
This work Will be completed during the fiscal year 1916.
BLACKWELL (OKLA.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $50,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ 15, 000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------ 35, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way toward
completion before its close.
44 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
BOSTON (MASS.) APPRAISERS’ STOREs.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------------------------ __ $1,250 000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ 900, 000
Amount to be appropriated_________ * -ºº º ºsmº º ºs- sºm smºs ms sº me mºme m = mesºs ºs amºs ºn ame smºs mºs 350, 000
Estimate for 1916 -------------------- - 350, 000
... It is expected that this work will be placed on the market in a short
time and it may be possible to award the contract and complete the
building during the fiscal year 1916.
BozeMAN (MONT.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------- --------- $75,000
Appropriations to date-----------------------------------------– 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated.---------- - 30, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––– * 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract soon and
completed during the fiscal year 1916.
BRATTLEBORO (VT.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COst-------- $140,000
ADOl'ODriations to date_________ 90, 000
Amount to be appropriated - 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 - * 50, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract soon
after the beginning of the next calendar year and completed before
the close of the fiscal year 1916.
BRENHAM (TEx.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 5, 000
Amount to be appropriated.----------------- 55, 000
Estimate for 1916--------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
\
BRYAN (TEx.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date---------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 46, 000
A mount to be appropriated.------------..— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — - - - 4,000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––– ----------------------------- 4, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract soon
after the beginning of the next calendar year and completed during
fiscal year 1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 45
BUFFALO (wyo.) Post oRFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - - - " " - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ame sº- - - - - - - - $62, 500
Appropriations to date---------------- - - = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A mount to be appropriated 62, 500
EStinnate for 1916 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
BURLINGTON (N. C.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost------------ - - - - - - - -e ess am. - - - - - sºme mºm amm ºa - - - - - m sº - - - - - m sºm. $65,000
Appropriations to date------------ '. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Almount to be appropriated___________ -3–––– — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 65,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
of 1916 for sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
CADILLAC (MICH.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Ilimit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $105,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 62,000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 43,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 43,000
This work is now under contract to be completed before the close
of the fiscal year 1916. - ^ -
CAMDEN (S. C.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit :
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $50,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ 43, 500
A mount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 6, 500
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––– –––––––––––––––––––––––––– 6, 500
This work is now under contract to be completed early in the fiscal
year 1916. -
CANTON (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit :
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $85,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 55,000
A mount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 30, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract very
soon, and will be completed during the fiscal year 1916.
46 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
CANTON (MISS.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt * - amº -º $50,000
Appropriations to date * – – — — — — 20, 000
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– –– 30, 000
Pºstimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract soon,
and completed during the fiscal year 1916.
CARIBOU (M.E.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of Cost - $50,000
Appropriations to date__ — — — — — — — — —
Amount to be appropriated - - 50, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
CARNEGIE (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $80,000
Appropriations to date w e 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated : 35,000
Estimate for 1916–––––––– 35, 000
This work is now under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. - -
CARTERSVILLE (GA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: -
Limit Of cost $51,250
Appropriations to date 46, 250
Annount to be appropriated - 5, 000
Estimate for 1916— - 5,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
CHADRON (NEBR.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt.__ $110,000
Appropriations to date * = = = = ** = * * * * = = * = s.se ess a s sº ºne
Almount to be appropriated – 110, 000
Estimate for 1916 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
CHANUTE (KANs.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt - . — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — $75,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 33, 000
A mount to be appropriated ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 42,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 42, 000
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It is expected that this work will be under contract before the be-
ginning of the fiscal year 1916, and completed during that year.
CHARLES CITY (Iowa) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt .* — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — $70, 000
Appropriations to date . * * * * * * = m,
Almount to be appropriated ––––––––––––––– ºms -º º 70, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
CHATTANOOGA (TENN.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of Cost = * $55,000
Appropriations to date-------------------------------------------- - ––––––
Amount to be appropriated ------------------------------------- 55, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––– * * * * * * * - - - -s ºn tº mº, º smº 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
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CHICO (CAL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $100, 000
Appropriations to date mº mº m ºmº 65,000
Amount to be appropriated –––––––––––––––––– - - - 35, 000
Estimate for 1016 - - 35,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
CHILLICOTHE (Mo.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt - * -º $130,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 30, 000
Amount to be appropriated ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 100, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––– - * = * - 80, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way toward
completion before its close.
COEUR D’ALENE (IDAHO) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------- ------ $100,000
Appropriations to date---------------------- 30, 000
Almount to be appropriated.----------- — — — — — — — — — 70,000
Pºstimate for 1916------------------------------------------------ 55, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be let soon after
the beginning of the fiscal year 1916, and that the building will be
well under way toward completion before its close.
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COLLINSVILLE (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt - - -- $70,000
Appropriations to date - - - 34, 000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------- 36, 000
Estimate for 1916-------------------------------- 36,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. -
COLUMBIA (S. C.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt * __ $265,000
Appropriations to date----------------------- — — — — — — — — — — — —
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 265, 000
Estimate for 1916 * - * 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
CONCORD (N. H.) POST OFFICE (EXTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------- __ $50,000
Appropriations to date---------------------------- 32, ()()0
Annount to be appropriated * * * - - - sm * - - -e ºs º- * * * * * * * * * * * * *m; sºme 18, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 18, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early in
the coming calendar year and completed during the fiscal year 1916.
COOKEVILLE (TENN.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------- $100,000
Appropriations to date----------------------- 60,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––– 40, 000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------- 40, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded very
shortly, and that the building will be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
CORPUs CIIRISTI (TEx.) POST OFFICE AND CUSTOMHousB.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt * - $140, 000
Appropriations to date * * *ss sº sºme sºme sº sm am arºs º-s ºm eme sºme ºr smºs ºsmº ºm, amº * * 70, 000
A mount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 70. ()00
Estimate for 1916------------------------------------------------ 70,000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded early
in the coming calendar year and the building nearly or quite com-
pleted during the fiscal year 1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 49
CovingTON (TENN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: .
Limit of COSt –––––––––– $45,000
Appropriations to date 39,000
Amount to be appropriated - 6, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 6,000
It is hoped to be able to award the contract for this work soon after
the beginning of the coming calendar year and that the building will
be completed during the fiscal year 1916.
CUERo (TEx.) Post of FICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost tºº sm. * $65,000
Appropriations to date 35, 000
Almount to be appropriated i 30, 000
Estimate for 1916– - 20, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be let near the
close of the present fiscal year and that the work will be well under
way toward completion before the end of the fiscal year 1916.
DANBURY (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $115,000
Approl)riations to date - — — — — 60,000
Almount to be appropriated 55, 000
Estimate for 1916 55,000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded very
shortly and that the building will be completed before the close of
the fiscal year 1916. . .
DAN VILLE (VA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of tower and installation of clock therein under
present limit:
Limit of cost---- Tº $2,500
Appropriations to date_ * * * = ** = a-
Almount to be appropriated__ - 2, 500
Estillmate for 1916 * = 2, 500
This work will be completed early in the fiscal year 1916.
DELAVAN (WIs.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Lillnit Of COSt. - $62, 500
A pl) l'Opriations to date - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - = − = − = 52, j()0
Annount to be appropriated 10, ()00
Estimate for 1916 w— * - 10, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
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DENVER (COLO.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $2,000, 000
Appropriations to date - 1, 800, 000
'Amount to be appropriated 200, 000
Estimate for 1916––. 200,000
It is expected that this building will be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
DE SOTO (Mo.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Elimit Of COSt * *º- * * * $60,000
Appropriations to date 55,000
Amount to be appropriated 5,000
Estimate for 1916 - 5, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. ^
DETROIT (MICH.) Post of FICE AND courtHouse.
[See p. 118.]
For mail-handling devices:
‘Limit of cost (Submitted)-------------------------------------- $25,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ -------
Amount to be appropriated -
Estimate for 1916 25,000
It is recommended in the interest of economy, and in order to
facilitate work, that funds be provided for the installation of mail-
handling devices at this building.
EAST ORANGE (N. J.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost $125,000
Aplºropriations to date * - - - -e ºs = * * * * * * * * * = * *
Amount to be appropriated , sº ºsº, 125,000
Estimate for 1916 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
EAST PITTSBURGH (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt 3. smº sº * $100,000
Appropriations to date 40, 000
Amount to be appropriated - - 60,000
Estimate for 1916––. - 40,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the fiscal year 1916 and well under way toward completion before
its close.
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EAST ST. LOUIS (ILL.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For comencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt ** ** $240, 000
Appropriations to date |- - ––––––––––––––––– ––––––
Amount to be appropriated t 240,000
Estimate for 1916 95,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
EAST ST. LOUIS, ILL.-RENT OF BUILDINGs.
[See p. 119.]
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of Cost (Submitted) ------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — $12,000
Appropriations to date
Amount to be appropriated------------------------------------- ––––––
Estimate for 1916___ 12, 000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the
post-office and courthouse building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore
be necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation
of the Government officials and to move them thereto.
ELLENSBURG (WASH.) POST OFFICE.
For comencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $75,000
Appropriations to date •= <= - - - - *** = - - * * * * * * * *= *-* = <= <= ** = = <= ** = *-* = <= = * * * * * * = *
Amount to be appropriated 75,000
Estimate for 1916 sº sº 10,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the last quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
EL RENO (OKLA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $100,000
Appropriations to date 25. ()00
Amount to be appropriated - 75,000
Estimate for 1916 * * * *-* 75,000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded
very shortly, and that the building will be completed during the
fiscal year 1916. ^.
ELYRIA (oh IO) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------------------------
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ -------
A mount to be appropriated.---- — — - 100, 000 :
'Estimate for 1916--------------------------------------------- 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the last quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
52 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
ENNIS (TEX.) POST of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost_-_ - *: $60,000
Appropriations to date - 17, 000
Almount to be appropriated - 43,000
EStinnate fol' 1916 - $J - 43,000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be let soon, and
that the building will be completed during the fiscal year 1916.
EUREKA SPRINGS (ARK.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Jimit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $57, 500
Appropriations to date * 31, 500
Annount to be appropriated -— — — — — — — — — — — — — — 26, 000
Estimate for 1916 - - - 16, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded soon
after the beginning of the fiscal year 1916, and well under way toward
completion before its close. -
EVANSVILLE (IND.) CUSTOMHOUSE AND POST OFFICE (ExTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of Cost $150, 000
Appropriations to date_--_ r * = * = ** = ** = = <= - = - * = a_s = -s.
Amount to be appropriated 150, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––– - 75,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. -
EVANSVILLE, IND.—RENT OF BUILDINGs.
[See p. 131.]
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Gov-
ernment officials and moving expenses incident thereto: g
Limit of Cost (Submitted) ---------------- $8,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
Amount to be appropriated - ,------------— — — — — — — — —
Estimate for 1916------- . S. (200
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore he
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto. e
EvKRETT (WASH.) POST OFFICE AND CUSTOMHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost---------------------- –––––– $180,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 95, ()00
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- - 85,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 85,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year and that the building will be nearly or
quite completed before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
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EXCELSIOR SPRINGS (Mo.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $60,000
Appropriations to date___. - • 40, 000
Amount to be appropriated := - – = . . 20, 000
Estimate for 1916 § 20,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. *s • - . …”
g FALLS CITY (NEBR.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $65,000
Appropriations to date - - * = *= ** = = -- = <= <= = ** = <= - - - - = = * * = sº-sº asse sº
Amount to be appropriated w 65,000
Estimate for 1916– I0, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract near
the close of the fiscal year 1916. - , *
FAYETTEvLLE (TENN.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit: . .
Limit of COst-__ = ~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $50,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------- 35,000
Amount to be appropriated - - 15, 000
EStimate for 1916 - tº 15, 000
. It is expected that this work will be placed under contract very
shortly, and that the building will be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. -
FORDYCE (ARK.) POST OFFICE.
[See pp. 119, 128.]
For completion of building under present limit: &
Limit of COSt - - - $50,000
Appropriations to date - - - - sºm sºme sºme * = *
Amount to be appropriated___ * * * 50, 000
EStimate for 1916 50, 000
The drawings for this building are to be donated to the Govern-
ment, and it is expected that the building will be completed during
the fiscal year 1916. -
FORT ATKINSON (wis.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------ * * *-s ºne arms - * *m' ºr = sºme m- a--, -m amº º ºsmº ºm mºs, sºme mºm sm ºmº sºme ºr *s ºms, m sº amº -º — — — — $60,000
Appropriations to date — — — — — — — — — — — — — ––––––––––––––– 15,000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------- ––––––– - 45,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the fiscal year 1916, and well under way toward completion before
its close. - . - *
FULTON (KY.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $50,000
Appropriations to date---------------- - 15,000
Amount to be appropriated.---------- - - — — — — * 35,000
Estimate for 1916– ----- * *s 35,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. º
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FULTON (Mo.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt * * * * *= ** = * * = * * = * * = = * = a- = - - - * * = a- -s = -s as sº me • --> -- = -- $60,000
Appropriation to date-------------------------- * * 15, 000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 45, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916, and well under way toward
completion before its close.
GARDEN CITY (KANs.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - - - $60,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 15, 000
Amount to be appropriated *m smºº sm. - sº º smº -ºs ºm sm ºm * * * * * * 45,000
Estimate for 1916____ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 45, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
GARDINER (ME.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit Of Cost—- - - - º -ºº º ºs º-ºº: º, º ºs- ºn -º º 'º -º-º: “e -: * * * * * * * * * * * * $105,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 25, 000
Amount to be appropriated ––––––––––––––––––––––––– 80, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 65,000
It is expected that this work will be awarded early in the fiscal
year 1916, and well under way toward completion before its close.
GARY (IND.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $125,000
Appropriations to date - 75,000
Amount to be appropriated— — — — F- — — — — — — — — — — — - - - - 50, 000
Estimate for 1916– - ----------------- 80. 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be let very
shortly, and the building nearly or quite completed before the close
of the fiscal year 1916. -
GASTONIA (N. C.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt * * * *= mºry ºn mº - sº- amº, sº sºme º sm. º. ººm. * - º º º 'º º 4- * *-* *-* - - *** - sº-º º sº sº º 'º - - -º $85,000
Appropriations to date 70, 000
Amount to be appropriated sºme sºme sºm, sºme sºm, amº sº sºme º smºº smºs - sº * * * me as tº *-* * * 15, 000
Estimate for 1916– ------------------------ 15, 000
. This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. -
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GEORGETOWN (KY.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Pimit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $90,000,
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated * º 45, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 45,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
GLENS FALLS (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
| imit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $100,000
Appropriations to date
Amount to be appropriated
Estimate for 1916__ 45,000,
* * * * * * * * * * * = me sº- sº me s- sº- a-- sº
It is expected that the contract for this work will be let very.
shortly, and that the building will be nearly or quite completed be-
fore the close of the fiscal year 1916.
GLOBE (ARIZ.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt - -
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ -------
Amount to be appropriated * * *-* 100,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1,000.
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site.
GOLDFIELD (NEV.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost----- * - ºr * * * *-* = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-* * * * * * $75,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ 15, 000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 60,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------- *— — — — — — — — — — — — 60, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded early
in the coming calendar year and that the building will be completed
before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
GOUVERNEUR (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost--------------------------------------------------- $70,000
Appropriations to date sº ºmº ------------------------- 20, 000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––– t 50, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 35,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early in
the fiscal year 1916, and well under way toward completion before its
close.
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GRASS VALLEY (CAL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost * * $55,000
Appropriations to date * tº- m 45,000
Amount to be appropriated__ 10, 000
Estimate for 1916 10, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. r - -
GREELEY (COLO.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: .
Limit of COSt $110,000
Appropriations to date • 85,000
Amount to be appropriated ºmº mº - 25,000
Estimate for 1916 - - - - - - 25,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. -
GREEN FIELD (MASS.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost---------------------------------- * * $100, 000
Appropriations to date - 25,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––– .” - 75,000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––– * 75,000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded
shortly, and that the building will be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. -
GREEN wich (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit: º
Limit of cost--------- * $90,000
Appropriations to date__ - ––––––
Amount to be appropriated *-mº sº mºm, mºss -- 90,000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------ — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 50, 000
It is expected that a contract for this work will be awarded during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
GRENADA (MISS.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date —; 25,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 25, 000
Estimate for 1916--------------------------------------------- 25, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
GRINNELL (Iowa) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit :
Limit of cost--------------- $90,000
Appropriations to date - ** = - p - — — — —- - - - - - - - — — — — —--
Amount to be appropriated r ..— — — — — — — — — — — — — — 90, 000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------- --------------- -1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 57
ELACKENSACK (N. J.). POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost ––––––––––––––––––––––––––– - - $100,000
Appropriations to date - - - —— --~~~~
Amount to be appropriated - - 100,000
Estimate for 1916 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
HAGERSTown (M.D.) Post OFFICE (EXTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost . $30,000
Appropriations to date — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — - - -
Annount to be appropriated—— • • 30, 000
Estimate for 1916 - . ſº 30,000
It is expected that the work of extending this building will be
completed toward the close of the fiscal year 1916. - y
HAGERSTOWN (MD.) RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Gov-
ernment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of cost (submitted)--. $2,000
Appropriations to date - - - - - - -
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- -----
Estimate for 1916 -------------------- 2,000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the
post-office and courthouse building will be placed under contract
during the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will there-
fore be necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommoda-
tion of the Government officials and to move them thereto.
HAMPTON (VA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $80,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ - 60,000
Amount to be appropriated * * * * * * * * = ** = * * * sº º ºsmºs ºms - º mººn • * * * * * * * * * * * * 20, 000
Estimate for 1916----------------- - 20,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. * -
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HANFORD (CAL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost * * * * * * * * * * = ** *-* * * * * * * *-* * * * = ** = * * * * * * * * *-* == $75,000
Appropriations to date__ ----------------------------------- 60,000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 15, 000
ºstimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 15, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
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HARRISBURG (PA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (EXTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Iilmit Of COSt $200,000
Appropriations to date 125,000
Amount to be appropriated 75,000
Estimate for 1916–1–––– 75,000
The extension work as originally authorized will be completed
early in the fiscal year 1916, and the additional work under the in-
crease in the limit of cost authorized June 15, 1914, will be con-
tracted for at an early date, and probably completed during the
fiscal year 1916.
HILo (HAWAII) POST OFFICE, CUSTOMHOUSE, AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------------------- - - * $200,000
Appropriations to date -- 150,000
Amount to be appropriated –––––. - 50, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––––––––– - 50, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. t -
HOLLAND (MICH.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost---------------------------------- - - - $100,000
Appropriations to date------------------------ –––. 45,000
Amount to be appropriated.---...-------------- 55,000
Estimate for 1916----------------------------- 55,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. º
HORNELL (N. Y.) POST OFFICE
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $85,000
Appropriations to date---------------------- - * -- - - - - -
Almount to be appropriated.------------------- * , S5, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------- 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
HUMBOLDT (TENN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - * * * * *-* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - = = * * - - - - - - - - - - - $50,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
'Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 50,000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------ - 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the site.
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HUNTINGDON (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------ - - - - - -- $80,000
'Appropriations to date … - - - 65,000
Amount to be appropriated - 15,000
*Estimate for 1916 15, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
- HUNTINGTON (IND.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
"Limit of cost - - $95,000
Appropriations to date_ –––––––––– ----- -------
Amount to be appropriated - - 95,000
'Estimate for 1916--- 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur.
ing the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
HUNTINGTON (w. V.A.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
‘Limit Of cost - º . - $225,000
*Appropriations to date * * * * * * --------
Amount to be appropriated 225,000
‘Estimate for 1916––––. - 100, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be let early in
the coming calendar year, and the work well under way toward
completion before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
HUNTINGTON (w. VA.) RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary, quarters for the accommodation of Gov-
ernment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
‘Limit of cost (submitted) -- - $6,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
Amount to be appropriated_ --------------------- ------
Estimate for 1916 6,000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore
be necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation
of the Government officials and to move them thereto.
ISHPEMING (MICH.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------------ - - * * $75,000
Appropriations to date . . * * 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated ------ 30, 000
Estimate for 1916 30, 000
It is expected that a contract for this work will be awarded early
in the coming calendar year, and that the work will be completed
during the fiscal year 1916. -
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JACKSON (KY.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Lipnit Of COSt $100,000
Appropriations to date * 65,000
Amount to be appropriated 35,000
Estimate for 1916 35,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
JASPER (ALA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $100, 000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ --------
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––– r 100,000
Estimate for 1916 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site.
JELLICO (TENN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $70,000
Appropriations to date---------------------- 40,000
Amount to be appropriated.---------------------- &= 30, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––– - 30, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
JENNINGs (LA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present, limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date-------------------------- 25,000
Amount to be appropriated - - - * * * * * = * * * * * * me amº m ºr 25, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 25,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
JUNEAU (ALASKA) POST OFFICE AND CUSTOMHOUSE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $200,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 80,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––– - - - 120,000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 75 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract about
the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well underway toward com-
pletion before its close.
KALISPELL (MONT.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $100,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ --------
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 100,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 15,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
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KANSAS CITY (Mo.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost $500, 000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ -------
mount to be appropriated 500, 000
Stimate for 1916 250, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916, and well under way to-
ward completion before its close.
KANSAS CITY, MO. —RENT OF BUILDINGS.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Timit of cost (submitted) & $15,000
Appropriations to date------------------------
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- -------
Estimate for 1916––––– 15, 000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore
be necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation
of the Government officials and to move them thereto.
*-* * * * * * * *ms º me. * m ºm emº ºme sm amº mºm smº m = m amº
KINSTON (N. C.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Ilimit of COSt- - - - * * * * $90,000
Appropriations to date-------------- 70, 000
Amount to be appropriated * * * 20, 000
Estimate for 1916– * * *-* * * * 20, 000
It is expected that a contract for this work will be awarded early
in the coming calendar year and that the work will be completed
before the close of the fiscal year 1916. *
KIRKSVILLE (Mo.) POST OFFICE (EXTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost–––––––––– $40,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------
Amount to be appropriated
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––– 30, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded
during the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916 and the work well
under way toward completion before its close.
$ºm º ºr * * * *
KTRKSVILLE, MO. —RENT OF BUILDINGS.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials, and moving expenses incident thereto :
Ilimit Of cost (Submitted) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-* * *-* - ºm º ºsmº ºr ºm º º ºsº ºm º ºs º- $2,000
Appropriations to date--------------------
A motint to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– -----
Estimate for 1916------------------------------- 2,000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
62 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto.
LAFAYETTE (LA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: * *
Limit of cost $65,000.
Appropriations to date 55,000
Amount to be appropriated 10,000
Estimate for 1916 - 10, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. - -
LA JUNTA (COLO.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $85,000
Appropriations to date 55, 000
Amount to be appropriated 30, 000
Estimate for 1916 10,000
It is expected that this work will be awarded shortly prior to the
beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way toward com-
pletion before its close.
LAKE CITY (MINN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
H_imit Of COSt –––––––––––––––– $55,000.
Appropriations to date 26,000
Amount to be appropriated - 29, 000
Estimate for 1916 29, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
LA SALLE (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
# ,innit Of cost *-* = &m; $100,000
Appropriations to date * 65,000
Amoult to be appropriated 35,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 35,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year and completed before the close of the
fiscal year 1916. -
LAUREL (MISS.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $80,000
Appropriations to date.--------------------------------------------- 30,000
Almount to be appropriated 50,000
Estimate for 1916 40,000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
shortly before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under
way toward completion before its close.
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LAwTON (oklA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt t—- - — — — — 4 $215,096. 28
Appropriations to date - ____ 62, 796. 28
Amount to be appropriated 152, 300. 00
Estimate for 1916 152, 300.00
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
before the close of the present calendar year and completed before
the close of the fiscal year 1916. -
LINCOLN (NEBR.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (EXTENSION).
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– $275,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 65,000
Amount to be appropriated 210,000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 135,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year and under construction throughout the
fiscal year 1916.
LINTON (IND.) POST OFFICE.
Additional for site under present limit:
Limit Of COSt — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —- $8,000
Appropriations to date - - 4, 500
Amount to be appropriated.--------— — — — — — — — - 3, 500
Estimate for 1916 . * - - - * 1, 000
A proposal of $5,500 for the sale of land for a site has been
accepted, and it is expected that the necessary papers will be executed
so that funds will be required to pay for the property during the
fiscal year 1916. - -
LITTLE FALLS (MINN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost - $65,000
Appropriations to date.-----------------------------------------.... -------
AmOunt to be appropriated 65,000
Estimate for 1916 10, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract shortly
before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way
toward completion before its close. -
LIVE OAK (FLA.) POST OFFICE.
*
For continuation of building under present limit:
Himit of cost -------------------------------------------------- " $60,000
Appropriations to date_. - - *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30, 000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 30, 000
"stimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract shortly
before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way
toward completion before its close. g
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LOGAN (OHIO) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Dimit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date-----------------------------------------
A Inſount to be appropriated__ * * * * * * * * * * * * *-* *-* * * *-* - -ºº º ºm my mº º ºsº º gº mºs, ºr 60,000
P}stimate for 1916––––.----- - 20, 000
Tt is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
LONGVIEW (TEx.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COst------------ * * $50,000
Appropriations to date-------------- 30, 000
Amount to be appropriated.--------------- - - - - - 2U, 000.
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
Bids received for this work were in excess of the amount available,
and steps were taken to revise the drawings and again place the
work on the market, but the department has been requested to sus-
per, u action in the matter pending efforts to Secure an additional
appropriation. e
LYNCHBURG (VA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (EXTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Timit of cost ––––––––––––– - - - - $205, 000
Appropriations to date_-__ * * * * 180, 000
Amount to be appropriated - - 25, 000
Estimate for 1916–---- ----- arms º ºs- ºr * * * * * * 25, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
MADISON (WIS.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSſ –– * - * $550, 000
Appropriations to date *
Annount to be appropriated 550, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––– 200, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
MANDAN (N. DAK.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost----------------- - - - $66, 000
Appropriations to date 55, 000
A mount to be appropriated.----------------------- - - ---------- 11, 000
Estimate for 1916--------------------------- * * * 11, 000
It is expected that this work will be under contract before the close
of the present calendar year and completed during the fiscal year
1916. *
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Af
MAQUOKETA (Iºw'A v. Sº op'ſ 1 E.
For commencement of building tinder present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date -------------------- -------------------- –––––––
A mount to be appropriated–––––––––––––– ----------------------- 50, 000
Pstimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site.
MARION (S. C.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- –––––––
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 50, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site.
MARTINSBURG (w. V.A.) POST OFFICE (EXTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $20,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- –––––––
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 20, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––– 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916 and completed before its
close. t
MARYVILLE (TENN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- -------
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 60,000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––– 10, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
M’COMB (MISS.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- -------
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––– 50, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––– 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
present fiscal year for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of the
site.
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M'PHERSON (RANS.) PoST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $50,000
Appropriations to date 30, 000
Almount to be appropriated 20, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 20, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
{ MEDFORD (OREG.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Timit Of cost * = $110,000
Appropriations to date 90, 000
Allmount to be appropriated 20, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be under contract before the close
of the present calendar year, and completed during the fiscal year
1916.
MERRILL (WIS.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost f $75,000
Al))) l'Olyriations to date -------- --------------------- -------
A mount to be appropriated - 75,000
I.Stinnate for 1916 35,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. -
MIDDLESBORO (KY.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $S5,000
Al]]}ropriations to date 20, ()00
Annount to be a lº propriated e (5; ), (100
Estimate for 1910 65,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract soon
after the beginning of the next calendar year, and completed during
the fiscal year 1916. -
MIDDLETown (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $140,000
Alºlºropriations to dirte ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––, - = = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A notint to be appropriated - 140, 000
Estimate for 1916 : 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and for the Surveying of
the site.
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MIDDLETOWN (OHIO) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost sºr f $100,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- -------
A mount to be appropriated 100,000
Estimate for 1916 50, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
MILES CITY (MONT.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost $150,000
Appropriations to date 31. :)00
Almoult to be appropriated 11S $500
Estimate for 1916 118, 500
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the next calendar year, and that the work will be completed before
the close of the fiscal year 1916.
MILLVILLE (N. J.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Ilinnit Of Cost $55,000
Appropriations to date 2(), ()00
A mount to be appropriated * * 3.0, 000
Estillmate for 1916 25, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded
during the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916, and that it will be
well under way toward completion before its close.
MILWAUREE (WIS.) APPRAISERS’ STOREs.
For completion of building under present limit:
Linnit of Cost_-__ $115,000
A]).]]ropriations to date____ 75,000
A mount to be appropriated——— 40, 000
Estimate for 1916 40, 000
The contract for this work has been awarded, and it is expected
that it will be completed before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
MINDEN (LA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Timit of cost ––––– $50, 000
All ropriations to date ----------------------------------------- -------
A mount to be appropriated * * - - 50, 000
Estimate ſor 1916–––––––––––––––– 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
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MINOT (N. DAR.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost am ºs- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-* *-* wº, ºr “ ºº -- * * * $150, 000
Appropriations to date *---— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 130, 000
Amount to be appropriated - 20, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 20, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
MISSOULA (MONT.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (EXTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt.__ * * * * * $125,000
Appropriated to date------------------------------------------- -----
Amount to be appropriated 125,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 50, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
MISSOULA, MONT.—RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
limit of COst (Submitted) –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– $3,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- -----
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- -----
|Estimate fol' 1916 3,000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto.
MoBERLY (Mo.) POST OFFICE (EXTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $35,000
Appropriations iO date----------- - - = * * *-* sºme ºmºs sm ºme s- ºs
Amount to be appropriated - ºme 35, 000
Estimate for 1916--- 20, 000 :
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
MOBERLY (Mo.) RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto.
Limit of Cost (Submitted) ------------------ * * * $2,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Al)1OUnt to be appropriated -------------------- ------
Estimate for 1916 2, 000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and courthouse building will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto.
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MOBILE (ALA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $300,000
Appropriations to date * 230,000
Amount to be appropriated 70,000
Estimate for 1916 70,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
MONONGAHELA (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $80,000
Appropriations to date 47, 000
Amount to be appropriated 33, 000
Estimate for 1916 23, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
MONTEVIDEO (MINN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - - * * * * * * * * *m, sº sºme m = -s sºme sº- $50,000
Appropriations to date---------------- * * * * * *m, as
Amount to be appropriated 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required before the close of the
fiscal year 1916 for the sinking of test pits and the surveying of
the site.
MORRISTOWN (N. J.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $125,000
Appropriations to date - 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated___ 80,000
Estimate for 1916 80, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the close of the present calendar year, and completed before the close
of the fiscal year 1916.
MOULTRIE (GA.) POST OFFICE.
Additional for site and commencement of building under present
limit :
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $65,000
Appropriations to date------------------ 7, 000
Almount to be appl’Opriated g 58, 000
Estimate for 1916 1, 200
Since the acceptance of land offered for site under the authoriza-
tion for “site and building,” it has been considered advisable to
acquire additional and adjoining land on the principal street, and
additional funds will therefore be required to pay for same before
the close of the fiscal year 1916.
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MoUNDSVILLE (w. VA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt * * -ºs. - - $90,000
Appropriations to date-------------- * * * 80, 000
Amount to be appropriated 10, 000
Estimate for 1916 10, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
MoUNT VERNON (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost----------- tº *-* *-* -m ºmº tº sº º m º ºs-º º mº, “º º-º ºr mºsº wºmº ºmº sº ºmº - smº. $90,000
Appropriations to date 82, 000
Amount to be appropriated * * 8, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––– 8, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
MOUNT VERNON (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - - $100, 000
Appropriations to date 70,000
Amount to be appropriated 30, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract shortly
before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916, and well under way
toward completion before its close. \ Á
MUSEEGON (MICH.) POST OFFICE AND CUSTOMHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $75,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 10, 000
Amount to be appropriated____ * * * 65,000
Estimate for 1916--------------------------------------------- 30, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916, and well under way toward
completion before its close.
MUSIKEGON (MICH.), RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Ijimit of cost Submitted - smº $3,000
Appropriations to (late----------------------------------------- ––––––
Amount to be appropriated------------------------------------ ------
Estimate for 1916 * 3,000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post-
office and customhouse building will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto.
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NACOGDOCHES (TEX.) Post of FICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt $55,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- -----
Amount to be appropriated 55, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
NARRAGANSETT PIER (R. I.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt * $69,000
Appropriations to date 30, 000
Amount to be appropriated 39,000
Estimate for 1916 39,000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
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NASHVILLE (TENN.) POST OFFICE AND CUSTOMHousB (EXTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $400, 000
Appropriations to date * * * * = - mºs ºs º- as
Amount to be appropriated 400, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––– \ 200,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
NASHVILLE (TENN.) RENT OF BUILDINGs.
[See p. 131.]
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of cost (Submitted) -------- $20,000
Appropriations to date___-
Amount to be appropriated------------------------------------ ------
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the post
office and customhouse building will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be
necessary to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of
the Government officials and to move them thereto.
NAUGATUCK (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost--------------------------------------------------- $80,000
Appropriations to date----------------- * * * *º-sºº gº, º ºsºm ºmº ºm. * = - m ms sº - - - - - - - -
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- ------
Estimate for 1916–--------------------------------------------- 25,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
72 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
NAVASOTA (T.Ex.) Post of FICE.
For commencement of building under present limit: f
Limit of cost sºme sº me sºme mºa ºms, sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = -s ºmº $50, 000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
A mount to be appropriated - – ---------------------------------- 50, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 15, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
NEENAH (wrs.) POST of FICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $80,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated ------------------------------------- 80, 000 :
"stimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and the surveying of the site before the close of the fiscal year
1916.
NEWARK (OHIO) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $190, 000
Appropriations to date-------------------------------------- -º- - 90, 000
Amount to be appropriated ------------------------------------- 100,000
Fstimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 50, 000
It is expected that the pending question relative to the site will
soon be settled and that bids will be obtained and the construction
of the building resumed.
NEW BRAUNFELS (TEx.) PoST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date--------------------------------- c-— — — — — — — — — — — — —
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 50, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––––––– - 20, 000
It is expected that the contract for this work will be awarded dur-
ing the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
NEwcASTLE (IND.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $90, 000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 75,000
Amount to be appropriated ------------------------ 15, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––– * * *º mºm º ºs º ºsº ºmº = m, º sº º sº * *-* - sºme ºr sº *-* * * * 15, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract shortly
before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and nearly or quite com-
pleted before its close.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 73
NEW HAVEN (CONN.) Post OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Timit, of cost -------------------------- ____ 31, 200, 000
Appropriations to date 800, 000
Amount to be appropriated - 400, 000
Estimate for 1916_____ 400, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
NEW ORLEANS (LA.) CUSTOMHouse (REMODELING).
For completion of building under present limit:
s
Ilimit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $350, 000
Appropriations to date ---------------- * * - - - 100. 000
Amount to be appropriated 250, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––––––– 250, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract soon
after the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and completed before its
close.
NEW ORLEANS (LA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
[See p. 132.]
For mail-handling devices:
Limit of cost (Submitted) –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– $25,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- ------
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––– sºm º ºsm - - 25, 000
It is recommended, in the interest of economy and in order to
facilitate work, that funds be provided for the installation of mail-
handling devices at this building.
NEWPORT (R. I.) POST OFFICE AND CUSTOMHOUSE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $400. 000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 100, 000
A mount to be appropriated.-------------- 300,000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 150, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
NEW RocFIELLE (N. Y.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost--------------------------------------------------- $125,000
Appropriations to dºtte------------------------------------------ 110, 000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 15, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 15,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
* Subject to change, dependent upon a mount received from sale of old building and site.
74 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
NORTH ATTLEBORO (MASS.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost - $70,000
Appropriations to date g 20, 000
Amount to be appropriated * 50, 000
Estimate for 1916-- * 50, 000
It is probable that this work will be placed under contract in time
to complete the same during the fiscal year 1916.
NORTON (VA.) PosT OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Ilimit Of COSt $75,000
Appropriations to date 50, 000
Amount to be appropriated 25,000
Estimate for 1916 - 25, 000
It is probable that this work will be placed under contract so as to
be completed during the fiscal year 1916.
OKLAHOMA CITY (OKLA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE (ExTENSION).
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost–––––––––––––––––– & * * $250, 000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated——— - 250, 000
Estimate for 1916–––– 111, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
OPELIKA (ALA.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost----------------- - - * * * mam $105,000
Appropriations to date 50, 000
Amount to be appropriated 55, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––– 40, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract shortly
before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916, and well under way
toward completion before its close. - +
ORANGE (N. J.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $100,000
Appropriations to date * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-* *-* = -º, s- a-- * * * * * * * * * * *-* - sm smº S0, 000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 20, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––– * * 20, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. -
OSAGE CITY (KANs.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $57,000
Appropriations to date--------------------- &m ºme º 'º 45,000
Amount to be appropriated.------ ** sºme º - - - - 12, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 12,000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 75
PALATEA (FLA.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit. Of Cost -- * * $60,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 27, 000
Amount to be appropriated 33, 000
EStilnate for 1916 18, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
PENDLETON (OREG.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $130,000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 57, 000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------ 73,000
Estimate for 1916 * = ** 73,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early in
the coming calendar year and nearly or quite completed before its
close.
PENSACOLA (FIA.) Post or FICE AND courtHouse (ExTENSION).
«.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $130,000
Appropriations to date —- - - *mº sºme º ºsº º mº º mºº º 'º -m º º ºs º- ºr *- * * * * * * * * sº º 100, 000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 30, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 30, 000
In order to complete the extension of the building the additional
amount authorized by the act of May 12, 1914, will be required during
the fiscal year 1916.
PITTSBURGH (PA.) LABORATORIES, BUREAU OF MINES.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $500, 000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 150, 000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 350, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 350, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year and nearly or quite completed before the
close of the fiscal year 1916.
PLAINFIELD (N. J.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $150, 000
Appropriations to date --------- * * * 70, 000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– S0, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––----------------- 80, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year and nearly or quite completed before the
close of the fiscal year 1916.
76 SUNDRY CIVII. APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
PORT HURON (MICH.) Post of FICE.
[See p. 133.]
, For lookout gallery, including the incidental remodeling of the
first floor by the addition of a storage room and toilet room:
Limit of cost (submitted)
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- -------
Estimates for 1916--------------------------------------------- 3, 500
This building was erected in the early seventies when the installa-
tion of lookouts to be used as a means of protection to the mails were
not installed.
The postmaster General recommends the construction of a lookout
System and the incidental remodeling of the building, and the amount
estimated for will therefore be required to carry out these recom-
mendations.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * * * * = ** =s are ess as a sm amas sº sº-- *-s sº- =º-s
PORT JERVIS (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost---------------------------------- $80, 000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ 70,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 10, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––––– fº. 10, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916.
PORTLAND (ME.) QUARANTINE STATION.
For completion of building under present limit:
Elimit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $23,620
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- –––––
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– ------- 23, 620
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 23, 620
Funds will be required during the fiscal year 1916 to provide for
increased quarantine facilities, as authorized in the act approved
April 3, 1914.
Pough KEEPSIE (N. Y.) POST OFFICE (EXTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $68,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 28, 000
Almount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––---------------- 40,000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------- 40, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916 and nearly or quite com-
pleted before its close.
PRINCETON (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COst--------------------------------------------------- $70,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 20, 000
A mount to be appropriated.-------------------------------------- 50, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––------------- 50, 000
This work is under contract to be completed during the fiscal year
1916. *
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 77.
PULASKI (VA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $50,000
' Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 50, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for sinking of test pits
and the surveying of the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
PUTNAM (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $65,000
Appropriations to date * * * ** 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 20, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 10, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract shortly
before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way
toward completion before its close.
QUITMAN (GA.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------- $50, 000
Appropriations to date------ wºº ºme 15, 000
Amount to be appropriated.--- * - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *mºs ºsme amº ºms sº mºme sºme smºs -º 35, 000
Estimate for 1916 tº ºm º ºs 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
READING (PA.) POST OFFICE (ExTENSION).
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $135,000
Appropriations to date * * 95,000
Amount to be appropriated.--- 40, 000
Estimate for 1916 40, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year and completed before the close of the
fiscal year 1916.
REDFIELD (S. DAK.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt.-- sº * * - $65,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated dr 65,000
Estimate for 1916
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and the surveying of the site before the close of the fiscal year
1916.
78 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
RIDGWAY (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of Cost $80,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Annount to be appropriated 80, 000
Estimate for 1916- 25, 000
It is expected this building will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
ROBINSON (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - $70, 000
Appropriations to date - 25, 000
A mount to be a])propriated 45, 000
Estill late for 1916– ––––– - 45,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract very
early in the coming calendar year, and completed during the fiscal
year 1916. -
ROCKVILLE (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Lilmit Of COSt.__ $55,000
Allropriations to date----------------------------------------- ––––––
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––– 55, 000
Estillmate for 1916 1, 000.
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying of the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
ROCKY MOUNT (N. C.) Post OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
I,innit Of COSt - $86,000
Appropriations to date—— - 56, ()()0
A mount to be a lºl)1'Ol)riated 3(), ()()0
Estill late for 1916 * - - - - 30, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. -
ROSEBBURG (OREG.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt.--------- $100, 000
Al)1)1'O'Driations to date––––––––––––––––––––––– --------------- -------
A mount to be appropriated.--------------------- 100, 000
Estimate for 1910----------------------------- & - 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test pits
and surveying of the site before close of the fiscal year 1916.
RUMFORD (MIE.) Post OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of COst------ - smm mm. - $60,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- –––––––
A mount to be a DDTODriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 60, 000
Estimate for 1910 --------------------------------------------- 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test pits
and surveying of the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 79
RUTHERFORDTON (N. C.) POST OFFICE.
For site under present limit:
Linlit Of COSt ------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * $5,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- -----
Amount to be appropriated — — — — — — — — — — — — –––– 5, 000
Estimate for 1916 . 5, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for payment of the site
during the fiscal year 1916. ... "
St. Louis (Mo.) SUBTREASURY.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $1,000, 000
Appropriations to date
Almoult to be appropriated - 1,000, 000
Estimate for 1916 - - 50, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
ST. PETERSBURG (FLA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Linnit of COSt $S0, 000
Appropriations to date 55, 000
A mount to be appropriated______ - 25, 000
Estimate for 1916 25, 000
It is believed that this work will be placed under contract early in
the coming calendar year and nearly or entirely completed before the
close of the fiscal year 1916.
SALAMANCA (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
I,innit of COSt 75,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ––––––
Annount to be appropriated 75, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
SANDUSKY (or IO) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $130,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------ - **
Annount to be appropriated - 130, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 80, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
80 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
SAN LUIS OBISPO (CAL.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $80,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 9; 000
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 71, 000
Estimate for 1916 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 71, 000
The drawings for this building are being donated to the Govern-
ment, and it is expected that the work will be placed under contract
at an early date and completed during the fiscal year 1916.
SARANAC LAKE (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For site and commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost---------------------------------------------------- $90,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------- ––––––
A mount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 90,000
Pºstimate for 1916------------------------------------------------ 25, 000
Funds will be required to make payment for land selected for site
before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
SAVANNA (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost––––––––––––––– ------------------------------------- $50,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 50, 000
"stimate for 1916------------------------------------------------ 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
SEYMOUR (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost---------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 60,000
Estimate for 1916------------------------------------------------ 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
SEYMOUR (IND.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost---------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------- 32, 000
Amount to be appropriated.--------------------------------------- 28, 000
Estimate for 1916–––––––––––––––––––––––––––!--------------------- * 28, 000
Drawings have been prepared for this building, but the work has
not been placed on the market as yet, the department having been
requested to hold the letting of a contract, pending efforts which are
being made to secure additional appropriation.
à.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 8].
SHELBY (N. C.). POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost f - $55,000
Appropriations to date ––––––––––––––––––– ––––––
Amount to be appropriated 55, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and Surveying site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
SHELBYVILLE (KY.) PosT OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost----------------------------------------------------- $50,000
Appropriations to date-------------------- * - - - - - - - *** - - - - - - * * - * *ms ºm. --
Amount to be appropriated - 50, 000
Estimate for 1916-- - 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
SHELBYVILLE (TENN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: *
Limit Of cost - $60,000
Appropriations to date —a - 55, (100
Almount to be appropriated ". 5,000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––– - - - 5,000
It is believed that this work will be under contract before the begin-
ning of the coming calendar year and that the building will be com-
pleted during the fiscal year 1916.
SIDNEY (OHIO) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - $70,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------> ------
Amount to be appropriated ! 70, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
SMYRNA (DEL.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Ilimit of COSt - - $35,000
Appropriation to date - - 25, 000
Amount to be appropriated - - 10, 000
Estimate for 1916 * 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract be-
fore the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and completed before its
close.
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32 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
SOUTH BETHLEHEM (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost----. - $100,000
Appropriations to date---- sºs ºs ºº ms smº ºme assº assº emcee smº sºme
Amount to be appropriated -- 100, 000
ICstimate for 1916-------------- 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
SPARTA (wis.) Post OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Timit of COSt $60,000
Appropriations to date * * * * 37,000
Amount to be appropriated - 23, 000
Estimate for 1916_______ 23, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the next calendar year and completed before the
close of the fiscal year 1916.
STAMFORD (CONN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-- - $150, 000
Appropriations to date 50, 000
Amount to be appropriated 100, 000
Estimate for 1916 100,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the next calendar year and completed before the
close of the fiscal year 1916.
STAML'ORD (TEX.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Dimit of cost----------------- tº E- º & E. $50,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated -- - 50,000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––– * * 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
STEUBENVILLE (OHIO) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $120,000
Appropriations to date— ------------------- 65,000
Amount to be appropriated - * * 55,000
Estimate for 1916 40, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 83
SUNBURY (PA.) Post of FICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost -------------------------------------------------- $100, 000
Appropriations to date ----------------------------------------- 65,000
Annount to be appropriated - - - 35,000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
shortly before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916. f
SYCAMORE (ILL.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Ilimit Of cost 7–––––––––––––––––––––––––––– $60,000
Appropriations to date | . 45, 000
Amount to be appropriated- 15, 000
Estimate for 1916------------------------- * * * 15,000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. -
SYRACUSE (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost------------------------------------------------- - $550, 000
Appropriations to date s * *-* * * 10,000
A mount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––– - 540, 000
Estimate for 1916 180, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
TAMAQUA (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For site and commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt t - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $75,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ––––––
Amount to be appropriated * * 75,000
Estimate for 1916 * • - - - 27, 000
It is expected that funds will be required during the fiscal year
1916 for payment for land selected for site.
TARBORO (N. C.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — $75,000
Appropriations to date 50, 000
Amount to be appropriated 25, 000
Estimate for 1916 25,000 -
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. --
TARENTUM (PA.) POST OFFICE.
For comencement of building under present limit:
Limit. Of Cost - - $60,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated 60,000
Estimate for 1916 1,000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
84 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
TAYLORVILLE (ILL.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost * $60,000
Appropriations to date — — — — — —-
Amount to be appropriated 60,000
Estimate for 1916 —r * 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
THE DALLES (OREG.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt l - $104,000
Appiropriations to date t 44, 000
Amount to be appropriated 60,000
Estimate for 1916 60,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the next calendar year and completed before the
close of the fiscal year 1916.
* THOMASVILLE (GA.) POST orrior.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COS't - - $70,000
Appropriations to date 24, 000
Amount to be appropriated. 46.000
Estimate for 1916–––– - 46,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the next calendar year and completed before the
close of the next fiscal year. g.
THREE RIVERS (MICH.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: -
Limit of cost $60,000
Appropriations to date - 50, 000
A mount to he appropriated 10, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––– - 10, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
TIFFIN (OHIO) Post OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt - - - $97, 500
Appropriations to date__ - ! - - - - 27, 500
Almount to be appropriated_. 70, 000
Estimate for 1916–––– . 70, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
early in the coming year and completed during the fiscal year 1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 85
TITUsville (PA.) Post of FICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost - $75,000
Appropriations to date - ––––––
Amount to be appropriated 75,000
Estimate for 1916 15, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
TULSA (OKLA.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of COSt º > $310,000
Appropriations to date - 135. O00
Amount to be appropriated - - 175, 000
Estimate for 1916 * - 45,000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
shortly before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916. w
TUPELo (MISS.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost - : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - : — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — $60,000
Appropriations to date — — — — — — — — — — — — — —- 20, 000
Amount to be appropriated –––––––––––– 40, 000
Estimate for 1916 - 40, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
URBANA (ILL.) Post of FICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $80,000
Appropriations to date___________ - - - ** – = = - - - - - - - - - - - - 70,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 10, 000
Estimate for 1916------------------ * 10, 000
This building is under contract and will be completed early in the
fiscal year 1916.
UTICA (N. Y.) Post OFFICE, CUSTOMHOUSE, AND COURTHOUSE
4. (ExTENSION).
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------- —— - sº mºs º- $405, 000
Appropriations to date___________ - 35,000
Amount to be appropriated------------ 370, 000
Estimate for 1916 180,000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract dur-
ing the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
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UTICA (N. Y.) RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of cost (submitted) - * $15,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated - * * * * * * * *m's mºs ºsmº ºms º
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––––––– 15, 000
It is expected that the work of extending and remodeling the
post-office, customhouse, and courthouse building will be placed
under contract during the second quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
Funds will therefore be necessary to provide temporary quarters for
#. accommodation of the Government officials and to move them
theretO.
UVALDE (TEX.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost * $50,000
Appropriations to date 15, 000
Amount to be appropriated.-------------------- * * 35,000
Estimate for 1916 - - - - * * * * 35,000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract before
the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and completed before its close.
VALLEY CITY (N. D.A.K.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $75,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated 75,000
Estimate for 1916 *– 15, 000
It is expected that this buliding will be placed under contract dur-
ing the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
VALPARAISO (IND.) POST OFFICE.
Additional for site and commencement of building under present
limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $95,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 8, 200
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 86, 800
Estimate for 1916--______ 5, 300
It is not now believed that a site can be secured for the amount pre-
viously estimated for and appropriated in the act of July 29, 1914,
and additional funds will be required to pay for land selected for
site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
b VANCOUVER (wASH.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $140,000
Appropriations to date * * * mºst amº - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *m. - m-: * = <-m memº ºm.
Amount to be appropriated 140,000
Estimate for 1916—--- 10, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
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VAN worT (oh Io) Post of FICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt - - - - - - - - - me * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $70,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated - - - - - ºr ame mºm sº- sm. “ - - - - - - - - 70,000
Estimate for 1916 - - - - - * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - 25,000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
WALTHAM (MASS.) PosT OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $115,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ 85,000
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 30, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 20, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
shortly before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916.
WASHINGTON, D. C., BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING (NEw).
[See pp. 137, 426.]
For sidewalk, curbs, etc.:
Limit of cost (Submitted)-------------------------------------- $9,000
Appropriations to date - - - - - - *-* *-* * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - sº sº * *- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– –––––
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 9,000
This item has been submitted to Congress before. Reference is
made to the letter addressed to the Speaker of the House of Repre-
sentatives under date of April 13, 1914 (H. Doc. 904). The atten-
tion of the department has again been called to the deplorable condi-
tion of the sidewalks by the director of the bureau and it is stated
they are absolutely unfit for the use of the employees and others
visiting the building. The amount estimated therefor is required
in order that this work may receive attention during the fiscal year
1916.
WASHINGTON, D. C., BUILDING, INTERIOR DEPARTMENT OFFICES.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost—- * - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $2. 596,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 40,000
Amount to be appropriated - * * ºm m = *- - - - - - - - - - - - - -ºs. m. * - - - - - - - - - 2, 556, 000
Estimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1, 500, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract prior
to the beginning of the fiscal year 1916 and well under way before
its close.
wASHINGTON, D. C., BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING (OLD).
[See p. 173.]
For increasing the boiler capacity of the power plant in the old
building for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, including neces-
88 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
sary piping, changes in breeching, the extension of coal bunkers,
and other changes incident thereto:
Limit of cost (submitted)
Appropriations to date
Amount to be appropriated–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– ------
Estimate for 1916 25, 000
It appears that the power capacity of the present boiler plant is not
sufficient for present needs and the amount estimated for is there-
fore required for the installation of an additional 500-horsepower
boiler and accessories.
wASHINGTON (D. C.), BUTLER BUILDING.
[See p. 137.]
. For additional story to the one-story annex to the Butler Building,
including special repairs:
Limit of cost (submitted) - __ $7,000
Appropriations to date------------ - - -
Amount to be appropriated -- - -----
Estimate for 1916––––––––––––– 7, 000
This matter, together with the elevator for the Butler Building,
was submitted in the estimates for 1915, and the installation of the
elevator was provided for. The crowded conditions in this building
occasion the necessity for the additional story and the repairs re-
ferred to, and in order to do the work the amount estimated for will
be required.
wASHINGTON (GA.) POST OFFICE.
For site and commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost * * * * $55,000
Appropriations to date * * * * * * * * * * * = sº gº sº º smºs ºss
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 55,000
Estimate for 1916--------------- 6, 500
It is expected that funds will be required to pay for land selected
for site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
wASHINGTON (IND.) POST of FICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost--------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date----------------
Amount to be appropriated.------
bºstimate for 1916---------------------------------------------- 1, 000
It is expected funds will be required for the sinking of test pits
and surveying the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
wASHINGTON (TowA) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– $80,000
Appropriations to date---------------- * = as sº sº * * * *s-s
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 80, 000
Estimate for 1916 10,000
It is expected the contract for this building will be awarded during
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
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WATERLoo (N. Y.) PoST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost - - - $55,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
Amount to be appropriated.------------------------------------- 55, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
wAYNESVILLE (N. C.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $65,000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Almount to be appropriated 65, 000
Estimate for 1916 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying of site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
WEBB CITY (Mo.) PoST or FICE.
For continuation of building under present limit;
Limit of cost $70,000
Appropriations to date f 34. O()0
Amount to be appropriated 36. O00
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
WELLSBURG (w. VA.) PoST of FICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $60,000
Appropriations to date 15,000
:Amount to be appropriated 45, 000
Estimate for 1916 30, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
WENATCHEE (wASH.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost * * * $85,000
Appropriations to date------------------------------------------ ------
Amount to be appropriated 85,000
Estimate for 1916 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
w111, ISTON (N. DAK.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of Cost $100,000
Appropriations to date 95,000
Amount to be appropriated 5, 000
Estimate for 1916 5,000
This building is under contract and will be completed shortly after
the beginning of the fiscal year 1916.
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w11,Low (CAL.) POST OFFICE.
[See pp. 119, 128.]
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of COSt $75,000
Appropriations to date----------- * * * *-s ºr ºmsº º ºs º ºs ºº
Amount to be appropriated 75,000
Estimate for 1916 75,000
The drawings for this building are to be donated to the Govern-
ment, and it is expected that the building will be completed during
the fiscal year 1916.
WILKESBORO (N. C.) POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Timit of cost–––––––––––––––––––– - - - - $60,000
Appropriations to date - 22, 000
Amount to be appropriated 3S, 000
Estimate for 1916 30, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
shortly before the beginning of the fiscal year 1916.
( wiLLIAMSON (w. VA.) POST OFFICE.
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost * * * * * * * $50, 000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amount to be appropriated 50, 000
Estimate for 1916 1, 000
It is expected that funds will be required for the sinking of test
pits and surveying the site before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
will MINGTON (N. C.) CUSTOMHOUSE AND APPRAISERS’ STOREs.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $600, 000
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- 1S0, 000
A mount to be appropriated_____ * 420, 000
Estimate for 1916––––––––––– 220, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract early
in the coming calendar year. f
will MINGTON, N. C., RENT OF BUILDINGS.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of cost (Submitted) -------------------------------------- $2,500
Appropriations to date----------------------------------------- ------
Amorint to be appropriated-------------------------------------- -----
Estimate for 1916 2, 500
It is expected that the work of removing the old building and con-
structing the new one will be placed under contract prior to the
beginning of the fiscal year 1916. Funds will therefore be necessary
to provide temporary quarters for the accommodation of the Gov-
ernment officials and to move them thereto. }
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wilson (N. C.) PoST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit: ,
Limit of cost-------------------------------------------------- $60,000
Appropriations to date –––– 45,000
Amount to be appropriated 15,000
Estimate for 1916 15, 000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
early in the coming calendar year and completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
wiNCHESTER (KY.) POST OFFICE—ERECTING SECOND STORY, CHANGES, ETC.
ſ *
For commencement of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $30,000
Appropriations to date *
Amount to be appropriated 30, 000
Estimate for 1916 20, 000
It is expected that this work will be placed under contract during
the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
wiNCHESTER, KY., RENT OF BUILDINGs.
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Gov-
ernment officials and moving expenses incident thereto:
Limit of cost (submitted) $2,000
Appropriations to date.-------------------------------------------- . . . . . . .
Amount to be appropriated––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– -----
Estimate for 1916____ 2,000
It is expected that the work of erecting a second story to the build-
ing and making necessary changes in the same will be placed under
contract during the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916. Funds
will therefore be necessary to provide temporary quarters for the
accommodation of the Government officials and to move them thereto.
w1NCHESTER (TENN.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $57, 300
Appropriations to date 42, 300
Amount to be appropriated 15, 000
Estimate for 1916 15,000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
wiNFIELD (KANs.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost $75,000
Appropriations to date 31, 000
Amount to be appropriated 44, 000
Estimate for 1916 44, 000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916.
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wyTHEVILLE (VA.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $60,000
Appropriations to date } 35,000
Almount to be appropriated 25,000
Estimate for 1916 25,000
This building is under contract to be completed during the fiscal
year 1916. }
YonkBRs (N. Y.) POST OFFICE.
For completion of building under present limit:
Limit of cost $500,000
Appropriations to date X--- 250, 000
Amount to be appropriated 250, 000
Estimate for 1916 ‘’ 250,000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
shortly after the beginning of the coming calendar year and nearly
or quite completed before the close of the fiscal year 1916.
YPSILANTI (MICH.) Post OFFICE.
For continuation of building under present limit:
Limit Of cost $75,000
Appropriations to date 20, 000
Amount to be appropriated 55,000
EStimate for 1916 35,000
It is expected that this building will be placed under contract
during the first quarter of the fiscal year 1916.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 93
WEDNESDAY, December 16, 1914.
PUBLIC BUILDINGS CONTINUED.
STATEMENTS OF MR. BYRON R. NEWTON, ASSISTANT SECRETARY
| OF THE TREASURY, AND MR. JAMES A. WETMORE, EXECUTIVE
| OFFICER, SUPERVISING ARCHITECT'S OFFICE. -
USE OF ALL UNEXPENDED BALANCES OF APPROPRIATIONS HERETOFORE,
* SPECIFICALLY MADE.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Secretary, in the estimates for public build-
ings, instead of submitting detailed estimates for the specific build-
ings, the department requests the following provision:
The unexpended balances of all appropriations heretofore specifically made
and remaining available, under the Treasury Department, for the construction,
enlargement, extension, remodeling, rebuilding, or innprovement of any and all
public buildings, and for the acquisition of sites or the enlargement of sites, be,
and the same are hereby, reappropriated, to constitute a lump-sum appropria-
tion, to be immediately available and to remain available until expended, as
follows: (a) For the acquisition of sites and the enlargement of sites within
the authorized limits of cost fixed by prior legislation; (b) for the continua-
tion of the construction, enlargement, extension, remodeling, rebuilding, OI!
lmprovement of public buildings within the authorized limits of cost fixed by
prior legislation, work upon which may have commenced prior to the passage
Of this act; (c) and for the commencement of the construction, enlargement,
extension, remodeling, rebuilding, or improvement of the following public
buildings within the authorized limits of cost fixed by prior legislation, to wit:
* Will you explain just what the proposal of the department is?
Mr. NEWTON. Mr. Chairman, Judge Wetmore, the executive officer
of the Supervising Architect’s Office, is more familiar with all the
details than I am. -
The CHAIRMAN. Then we will ask Mr. Wetmore to explain what
the department's proposal is.
Mr. WETMORE. Mr. Chairman, in brief, we have on our books at
the present time in available balances of the public-building appro-
priations over $21,000,000. The activities of the Supervising Archi-
tect's Office use about $12,000,000 a year. If we use the $12,000,000
for the present year we will still have on hand $8,000,000 or so which
we can not use for any of the buildings that we could take up in
the regular program, nor for the buildings for which the money has
been specifically appropriated, the conditions regarding which have
put them in such shape that we can carry on the work. We have
cases, for example, where buildings are tied up for want of further
appropriations, for need of a change in legislation, or because of
difficulties that have been encountered in carrying on the work on
the building, by reason of which they have not made the normal rate
of progress, and if we ask for appropriations to carry on the build-
ings we can handle, then we must pile up our balances by about
$12,000,000 additional. It looks as though we ought not to have
balances on our books so far in excess of our needs. The idea was
to clean up those balances, so that we could start another year and
estimate specifically on what we will need from time to time.
The CHAIRMAN. These balances, aggregating $21,000,000, consist
of specific appropriations for specific buildings? -
Mr. WETMORE. Yes.
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The CHAIRMAN. Which were made upon the recommendation of
the Treasury Department?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Based upon their statements that those sums
would be required
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; they were our estimates.
The CIIAIRMAN (continuing). During the various fiscal years for
which they were made?
f Mr. WETMORE. Of course, those estimates have been made in good
aith.
The CITAIRMAN. How does it happen that the department has
missed by $21,000,000 the amount of money you can spend?
Mr. WETMORE. We have not missed by $21,000,000 the amount of
money we can spend. The $21,000,000 includes $12,000,000 that we
will use during the next year; but in addition to that we have
$8,000,000 more that we can not use.
The CHAIRMAN. That money is money which you expected to use
during this year?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. There are only six months left of this year, and
that would be only $6,000,000, so that you have $15,000,000 in excess
of what you say you could use?
Mr. WETMORE. We make our estimates, as you know, many months
in advance of the time when the appropriation is available, so that
we are obliged to•forecast conditions sometimes 15, 16, or 18 months
in advance of the time when the appropriation may be used. In
making our estimates we take up a building and conclude what should
be the normal rate of progress. With that in our mind we ask for an
appropriation sufficient to carry us at that normal rate of progress
until the next appropriation will become available—in other words,
so we shall not run out of money in the meantime. We have run out
of money in the meantime, for instance, in 1912, when the sundry
civil bill was delayed until August 24, I think it was, before it was
passed. Now, we have calculated that the appropriation would
probably be passed in July at the latest, and we did not have money
enough to pay certain of our contractors between July and August
in a number of cases. *
The CHAIRMAN. But not in all cases?
Mr. WETMORE. Not in all cases, but it happened in some cases.
The CHAIRMAN. There were not many such cases, because we ex-
tended the appropriations.
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; but that did not help us out in the case of
public-building appropriations, as they were specific. The appro-
priations were extended on the annuals all right, but in the case of
the public buildings we had so much appropriated, and the exten-
sion resolution did not give us another dollar. If you will recall,
we ran out of money, for instance, on the post office in New York
City. The Fuller Construction Co. had to wait several months for
$200,000. They carried on the work and it is understood put their
wouchers in bank, and borrowed money and went ahead with the
work.
The CHAIRMAN. That was an unusual and extraordinary situation?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; and I am using that as one illustration. We
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 95
would know, as a matter of experience, if we had 100 buildings ap-
propriated for that there would be a fair percentage of those build-
ings in connection with which the work could not be carried on
and others in connection with which the contractors will not keep
up with the normal rate of progress. If we knew in connection with
which particular buildings that would happen, we could estimate
accordingly. We must estimate for every building at the normal
rate of progress that an ordinary contractor will make from the
time he starts until the next appropriation act is available. Now,
it happens that certain buildings get tied up. We may encounter
difficulties in foundations and have to tie up work on the buildings,
while we redesign the foundations. In the meantime the appropria-
tion has been made and can not be used. We sometimes strike a case
like we had at Elkins, W. Va., where, after the building was author-
ized, Congress authorized courts to be established and work on the
building was held up.
The CHAIRMAN. Take the case of the Chicago post office—in 1908
$1,250,000 was appropriated for a site.
Mr. WETMORE. And since then $500,000 more has been appropri-
ated.
The CHAIRMAN. That was four years ago.
Mr. WETMORE. And no site has been bought.
The CHAIRMAN. And the Secretary says it will still be a couple of
years before the money can be used.
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; it may be that long.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that?
Mr. NEwTon. We are waiting on the Post Office Department to
determine just what the postal facilities require there.
Mr. WETMORE. And previous to that, delay was occasioned because
it was desired to locate the building near the Union Station, and it
is only within a few months, or in fact within a few weeks, that the
railroads and the city have come together on the question of where
the station is to be located. This post office must be located near that
station. That was a delay that neither the office nor Congress was
at all responsible for. It is a local situation that had to work itself
out; but, nevertheless, during all that time there has been $1,750,000
on our books that could not be expended, and if we had had legisla-
tion of the character proposed we could have put forward our pro-
gram to the extent of $1,750,000. There is no question about that.
M, GILLETT. Are appropriations for public buildings good until
used ?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir; the purpose of this provision, as I say, is
simply to clean up all these balances. If we could use the $12,000,000
in this estimate, it would carry on the activities of the office for
another year.
Mr. SHERLEY. How far are you behind?
Mr. WETMORE. We are not behind at all in the sense of being
behind with our program. We have ahead of us' about six years'
work, I should say, between five and six years’ work; but we are not
behind, because we are turning out 70 or 80 buildings annually, which
is the normal output of our present force. When we are working
along at this rate and Congress authorizes 300 or more buildings
at one time, that does not put us behind in the sense that we are not
keeping up with our work.
96 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. SHERLEY. I am not using the word in any sense of odium one
way or the other. I want to find out—
Mr. WETMORE (interposing). It will be about six years or more
before we can clean up the buildings on our books with our present
force.
Mr. SHERLEY. Have you any recommendation to make as to in-
creasing your capacity to complete this work at an earlier date?
Mr. WETMORE. That is a departmental matter which I would
prefer Mr. Newton to answer.
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, Mr. Sherley; it must rest largely with Congress
as to whether or not this work is brought up to date. By increasing
the force in the architect’s office we could complete within two years
what will take six years otherwise. -
Mr. SHERLEY. With what increased cost?
Mr. NEWTON. In 1911, I believe, 80 men were taken out of the
architect’s office, and I am informed that the salaries of those men
amounted to about $150,000. Even with that diminished force, by
extra pressure we have been keeping the output up to where it was
before. We are placing under contract about six buildings per
month, and by strengthening the force in certain Sections of the
architect’s office this output could be proportionately increased.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you charge to each building a proportion of the
overhead charge of your office? - .* _ !
Mr. WETMORE. No, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. You do not ?
Mr. WETMORE. No, sir. There was a time when that was done,
but that legislation has been changed and the office is now on a
salary basis. Special appropriations are provided outside of the .
building appropriations.
Mr. SHERLEY. In order to increase your facilities for turning out
work, it would mean a direct increase in the salaries paid your office
force through additional appropriations?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; for both the office force and the field force.
Of course, if we turn out more buildings in the office we will need
more superintendents in the field, and there would be an increase in
numbers both in the office and in the field.
Mr. SHERLEY. Your present proposal does not look to a change in
the quantiy of work which you will put out, but simply to con-
venience in having available funds without having them tied to a
particular project. -
Mr. WETMORE. The purpose is not that so much as it is to get
these balances off the books, which can not be used for the specific
buildings for which appropriated and which could be used for other
buildings which can be reached at this time. It does not necessarily
contemplate any increase in the output. It is on the same basis of
about $12,000,000 of expenditure a year that we are now making.
Mr. SHERLEY. It is to make liquid the appropriations which have
heretofore been made? *
Mr. WETMORE. It will have that effect; yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. In point of fact, would it not result in your chang-
ing the order in which otherwise buildings would be constructed and
completed? . -
Mr. WETMORE. No ; not at all..
Mr. SHERLEY. Why not?
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Mr. WETMORE. Because we are proposing to use the balances that
can not be used on the buildings for which they were specifically ap-
propriated to carry on work on buildings which we will take up
either under this lump sum or under specific appropriations which
we will have to submit. We will be obliged to submit estimates for
specific appropriations instead of using balances of the appropria-
tions we now have. It is simply proposing to take money that can
not be spent on certain buildings that have been appropriated for
and expending it on other buildings on which the work can be prose-
cuted.
Mr. SHERLEY. That would make subsequent need for appropria-
tion.
Mr. WETMORE. Undoubtedly we would have to ask for an appro-
priation for any building whose balance was used up in that way.
Mr. NEWTON. These items illustrate it. The amounts are left
blank but that does not affect the situation fundamentally. It is
still the program and these projects will be taken up in regular order.
Mr. WETMORE. Here is a specific instance, Mr. Sherley. The last
session of Congress authorized $30,000 on account of Pensacola, Fla.
Pensacola, Fla., was a case where Congress had authorized an exten-
sion of the building. We had carried the work through to comple-
tion and had extended the building, when Congress authorized
$30,000 more for betterments. The purpose of that was to better the
old portion of the building and make it correspond in appearance
with the new portion. We had the authorization but no appropria-
tion. If we had had this lump sum we could have gone right ahead
with the work. As it was we had to move the officials who were
then in rented quarters back into the building, and when we get
our appropriation we will have to move most of them outside again.
Mr. SHERLEY. Suppose you had done that particular work, would
you not to a certain extent have been prevented from doing other
Work? l
Mr. WETMORE. No; we would have done it at the expense of the
appropriation for some building on which no work could have been
done.
Mr. SHERLEy. I am not talking about the money side, but about
the physical side.
Mr. WETMORE. No.
Mr. SHERLYY. If I understand you right, you have a certain ca-
pacity for doing a given amount of work, and you do not propose to
change that by increase of your force, either your office or your field
force. Now, if by virtue of lumping these appropriations wou are
enabled to take up a situation like the one you speak of in Florida,
are you not, to the extent of the work you do there, unable to do work
somewhere else, assuming you are now doing all the work you
can do?
Mr. WETMORE. No: what we would take up would be the regular
order of things on the program and for which we would otherwise
have to ask for money. *
Mr. SITEPLEY. But you do not catch my point. Assuming you
are now doing all the work it is possible for you to do in any given
year with your present force, then, if by making the appropriations
liquid you take up some particular work that otherwise you could
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not take up, will you not to that extent have to forego some work
that you would otherwise do?
Mr. WETMORE. No; I should say not.
Mr. SHERLEY. That looks to me like a mathematical proposition
and I would like your explanation.
Mr. WETMORE. It is not proposed to vary the program at all.
It is not proposed to take things up not provided in the program,
but to simply provide the money for taking up those things in
their order without having to ask specifically for appropriations
on that account, and in this way to clean up these old balances.
The Pensacola item is in our program.
Mr. SHERLEY. If I understand you, then, what you are proposing
to do is simply to not change the character of the work which you
are going to do for a year, but simply to not ask appropriations in
order to do that work, but depend upon these balances to pay for
the work? . - ſ }
Mr. WETMORE. That is the idea, and use money that could not be
used for the buildings for which they are appropriated. -
Mr. SHERLEY. So that from your standpoint the total effect of the
proposed change would be to dispense with the need of an appro-
priation of, say, approximately $12,000,000? ...”
Mr. WETMORE. Yes. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. Without in any particular changing or helping or
hurting the activities of the department?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir.
Mr. NEwTON. Exactly so.
Mr. RAUCH. I would like to know how much of a balance is in-
volved in the Pensacola proposition. - ~.
Mr. WETMORE. It would require an entire appropriation of the
amount of the authorization. The work has been authorized but
no appropriation has been made. The amount of the authorization
is $30,000. -
Mr. RAUCH. How much was involved in the Chicago proposition?
Mr. WETMORE. In the Chicago case the site has been appropriated
for in full, $1,750,000—first $1,250,000, and then $500,000. Those
appropriations have been on the books of the department for a long
time. --
Mr. RAUCII. Have you any other case that comes anywhere near
equaling the Chicago proposition in amount?
Mr. WETMORE. Not in amount; no, sir. We have over $13,000,000
of unincumbered balances on buildings running back as far as 1906.
Mr. RAUCH. What I want to get at is the largest item.
Mr. WETMORE. There is a case that has been on the books for a
long time—the appraisers’ stores at Boston. We are just getting to
work on it now. That has been tied up indefinitely. We had our
first appropriation in 1906 and we have now $805,437.12, but that
is getting to the point now where we are going to take that work up.
For many years we have had all these balances in our hands which
we could not use.
Mr. SHERLEY. Would not this have a tendency to make you relax
somewhat your efforts to so bring about conditions as to make usable
the particular appropriation for particular places?
Mr. WETMORE. I do not think so, because the difficulty is not in
the office, as a rule, in connection with these things. I do not want
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the committee to understand that the whole of an appropriation is
always tied up. . We may have a case where we have an appropria-
tion which We think should be used up in 12 months, and the con-
tractor's rate of progress is such that he takes 14 months or 16 months
to use it up. We have therefore estimated in that case too much. In
such a case we could have used that unexpended balance in carrying
forward Some other work on our program under this provision.
The CHAIRMAN. How much of the $21,000,000 would you say was
money that will be used up in the immediate future, and how much of
it is money appropriated for buildings or sites where the site has
been acquired and the balance does not go into the building, or the
building has been finished and the balance has not been turned into
the Treasury? & r
Mr. WETMORE. I have not any figures here, Mr. Chairman, which
show the amounts in such shape as to segregate the buildings and the
sites. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Well, put them together.
Mr. WETMORE. Together, $11,252,441.52 on December 1.
The CHAIRMAN. What does that represent? *
Mr. WETMORE. Balances of appropriations on account of buildings
that have not been commenced.
The CHAIRMAN. That have not been commenced?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any statement which would show the
amount of money on hand, balances from completed buildings?
Mr. WETMORE. There are at this time 86 buildings which are prac-
tically completed, in connection with which there are unexpended
balances aggregating $301,696.06. The Supervising Architect’s Office
is not yet advised whether everything in connection with these build-
ings has been done which should fall as a charge against these
balances.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you always spend every dollar you get?
Mr. WETMORE. No, sir. We have not turned in all of the balances.
on all of the buildings. Where we are holding out the balance it is
to do something further on the building. As soon as the building is
completed we turn in the balance. - - .
The CHAIRMAN. In this $21,000,000 there is practically no money
which would represent a balance of an appropriation for some build-
ing which has been completed ?
Mr. WETMORE. Practically none. - - -
Mr. SHERLEY. What did you turn in in the way of balances from
completed buildings recently .
Mr. WTTAroRE, $421.161.63, being balances of appropriations on
71 buildings. -
Mr. NEWTON. Of the sites authorized in the 1913 bill we have ac-
cepted between 60 and 70 of about 300, and there has been a saving
of a little more than $300,000 on the authorizations.
Mr. SHERLEY. What do you do with that money : just use it to
make a more expensive building? -
Mr. WETMORE. No; we turn it back. It is not available.
Mr. SHERLEY. But in a case where you have an appropriation of a
certain sum, of which not exceeding another lesser sum can be ex-
pended for a site and you actually buy the site for less than the
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maximum which is put in the authorization, what do you do with
the surplus—just use it on the building?
... Mr. WETMORE. The effect of that would be to leave more of the
appropriation for use on the building. g -
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you feel obligated to use it on the building?
Mr. WETMORE. No, sir. -
Mr. NEWTON. If the authorization is for a site alone, the money
goes into the Treasury.
Mr. SHERLEY. But where it is for a site and building with a maxi-
mum amount which can be expended for the site and you actually
buy the site for less than that, do you just cover that into the Treas-
ury or simply increase the cost of the building to that extent?
Mr. NEWTON. Usually there is no maximum for a site where the
authorization is for a site and building.
Mr. SHERLEY. Sometimes there is. - R
The CHAIRMAN. There is a limit, for instance $100,000, of which
not to exceed $20,000 shall be expended for a site.
Mr. SHERLEY. In point of fact you frequently estimate a building
at $65,000 and the site at $15,000. If you buy the site for $10,000
do you then feel compelled to spend $5,000 more on the building
just because you have it?
Mr. WETAroRE. No, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. What is the fact; what do you do?
'Mr. WETMORE. The Secretary of the Treasury has instructed us
that we should not spend a balance simply because we have it, but to
build buildings that are suitable for the locality and purpose.
Mr. SHERLEY. You are six years behind in your work; at least you
have authorizations 6 years old without the work done, and you do
not make any recommendation to increase your output. Do you not
think that a situation of that kind needs remedying somewhere?
Mr. NEWTON. There is a recommendation in the report of the
Public Buildings Commission which was submitted to Congress last
Session. That has not been acted upon.
Mr. SHERLEY. Briefly, what is that recommendation?
Mr. NEWTON. The recommendation is for a general reorganization
of the architect's office and for such changes as will give us an in-
creased output.
Mr. SHERLEY. Without going back to my proposition of a while
ago, that giving the liquid lump sum might have a tendency to cause
you to hurry up the delayed cases that exist now, is it not true that
there are a lot of instances where there have been delays that are not
delays that could not be prevented such as you speak of in case of
Chicago, where the action of the railroad company was prerequisite
to action by your office, are there not a lot of cases where matters
have been delayed, sometimes because some Congressman or Senator
insisted on holding up the matter until he could satisfy himself about
matters that the law did not have anything to do with or cases where
for one reason or another the matter grew slack?
Mr. WETMORE. I do not know of any cases where the matters have
grown slack, but there are cases where buildings have been held up
at the request of Senators and Members of Congress.
Mr. &HERLEY. What is your policy in that regard? -
- Mr. NEWTON. We do the best we can. Generally it is a matter of
a great deal of argument downstairs and sawing wood upstairs. We
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get along as best we can. It depends altogether on what the condi-
tions are. Sometimes it is a matter of the northwest wind and
where the door should be. Sometimes it is a matter as to where the
routing cases should be. Sometimes a question of two doors or one
door, but those matters do not ordinarily, as my experience reaches,
Cause any great delay. It is a thing that we usually take up and
thrash out and go on. Sometimes—not in very many cases—the
plans have been changed and there has been a considerable delay. .
Mr. WETMORE. As I understood the question, it would be a case,
for instance, where the appropriation will not build a building of
the size that ought to be built, and the Congressman, rather than
have the building built too small, wants to see if he can get the limit
of cost increased. • *
Mr. SHERLEY. I would state it the other way. Usually it is a case
where a building can be built perfectly adequate for the needs of the
service but not of the ornate style or dimensions that the pride of
the particular locality makes the Congressman think necessary.
What do you do then? Do you yield to the pressure or go ahead
and go to work? For instance, I have in mind one instance that
arose in my State where there was a building authorized for $100,000,
I think, of which $15,000 should be expended for a site. It was to
be a one-story building, 60 by 80 feet, and was to be built of bronze
and marble. It was discovered subsequently that the Federal court
might at some time hold sessions there, and therefore it was desirable
that it should be a two-story building instead of a one-story building.
Manifestly a very adequate building two stories high could have been
built, by eliminating some of the bronze and some of the marble,
for the authorization, but instead of that an additional appropria-
tion was asked. I am not sure but that it was finally obtained. What
do you do with regard to those cases?
Mr. NEWTON. It is the policy of the Secretary and of the depart-
ment to erect these buildings as inexpensively as is possible, con-
sistent with the requirements of the service and the locality, regard-
less of the authorization, and we work to that end. There are such
cases as you cite, and the kind of stone to be used in a building also
is often the cause of considerable controversy. It is a phase of
human nature that Congressmen and Senators want the native mar-
ble in their State put into the building. We have very many of those
cases. We insist, so far as we can, that the building shall be erected
within a reasonable limit. It is often necessary to contend with local
sentiment for too expensive buildings.
Mr. SHERLEY. As to your specifications touching building mate-
rial there are constant complaints made, which may or may not be
well founded—I know nothing as to the facts—that the specifications
are of such a character as to eliminate as suitable stone that can be
obtained in the locality of an equal or superior quality to those which
are used, and that when inquiry is made of the department the state-
ment is made that the specifications in general are so prepared, and
it is then up to the contractor to determine what particular stones
come within those specifications. What is the fact touching the mat-
ter of the specifications? Are they of such a character as to particu-
larly benefit certain stones? For instance, we frequently hear the
complaint that Bedford (Ind.) stone is used to the exclusion of other
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stone because of the character of the specifications that the archi-
tect's office prepares. -
Mr. NEWTON. The specifications are very largely regulated by the
limit of cost of the building. For instance, we would not specify
marble where the limit of cost clearly indicated that nothing but a
brick structure was to be erected. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand; but assuming that a structure is
going to be built of good limestone or some hard, durable building
stone, are your specifications of such a character, by putting in Some
little requirement, as to exclude certain stones and to benefit certain
others?
Mr. NEwTon. No, sir.
Mr. WETMORE. The specifications are drawn with a view to get-
ting the widest possible competition for material. In the first place.
the department regulations absolutely prohibit specifying the name
of any particular material or material from any particular locality
or any particular device or anything of that kind, the purpose being
to enable bidders to come in and bid generally. In a case of the kind
you mention, where we propose to build of stone, the specifications
would probably be for sandstone or limestone, and bidders can bid on
either sandstone or limestone. That is a generic term, and they can
bid on any kind of limestone or sandstone. It does not make any
difference whether it is produced in the locality or a thousand miles
away.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you put in any qualifications as to the degree of
hardness or anything else that would serve to eliminate any particu-
lar stone? - ... "
Mr. WETMORE. We simply specify the quality of stone that will be
acceptable. The stone produced-in a locality may be soft or of un-
suitable color and would not be acceptable. We call for a standard
material. We simply specify brick, terra cotta, sandstone, limestone,
or marble. Sometimes we specify a light-colored stone, but not fre-
quently. That is not customary. There is a reason from an archi-
tectural standpoint when we do that.
Mr. SHERLEY. When the bids are submitted, do they carry with
them specifications of the exact stone that is to be used?
Mr. WETMORE. Sometimes they do and sometimes they do not. If
they do not, the specifications require the bidders to submit an ac-
ceptable material and they send in the samples of the Stone which
they propose to furnish.
Mr. SHERLEY. Suppose there are two bids of equal amount and
one specifies the use of a given limestone and another the use of
another limestone, does the department then undertake to determine
which bidder shall be awarded the contract by exercising a judgment
as to which stone is the more desirable? -
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. Suppose there is a difference in the bids, do you still
exercise your judgment and exclude the lower bid because of the
fact that the other bidder has specified a stone which you like better?
In other words, is there anything which warrants the impression
which has gone out to the contractors that if they want to get favor-
able consideration for a bid they must use a certain character of
stone? • - ... -
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Mr. WETMORE. None whatever.
Mr. NEWTON. It does not make any difference to the department, so
}ong as it is a suitable stone.
Mr. WETMORE. If there is a local material, there is usually a great
deal of pressure brought to bear on the department to use that par-
ticular material. Simply expressing a view based on some years'
experience, I will say that the cost of local material is nearly always
in excess, if it is limestone, of the Bedford limestone. The reason
for that is that the Bedford quarries are well equipped to get out
stone in large quantities. The stone is so soft when it is first quarried
that it can be cut with tools and sawed, and the producers can com-
pete with Sandstone that is a harder material and can not be as read-
ily cut in the same way. The price of the Bedford limestone is
usually very much below the sandstone. For instance, limestone from
Indiana can be sent down to Texas and compete with the local stone.
Senators and Congressmen in such cases sometimes urge, notwith-
standing the cheaper material is acceptable, that we spend a little
more money and use the local material.
Mr. MONDELL. I am anxious to know just what the effect of this
provision which you have submitted would be. You ask that certain
unexpended balances shall constitute a lump sum to be available and
to remain available until expended for certain purposes in connec-
tion with certain buildings. That is, in effect, the transfer of the
appropriations heretofore made from the buildings for which the
specific appropriations have been made to these buildings, and the
result of it would be that it would be necessary to use all of this
unexpended balance on the buildings enumerated in the bill, and it
would be necessary hereafter to make appropriations either in lump
sum or specific which you could usa for the buildings for which ap-
propriations have heretofore been made, which appropriations you
are now putting in the lump sum. This might occur: Some of the
buildings for which specific appropriations have been made and
which are not enumerated in this list—practically none of them is
enumerated in the list, as I understand it—some of these buildings
might be ready for construction during the coming fiscal year and
some of the sites might be ready for purchase during the coming fiscal
year, but you have transferred or would have transferred under this
language the sums heretofore appropriated for those buildings to
these other buildings and you could not use them for the buildings,
even though conditions arose under which you were ready to use
them. To illustrate, I have in mind an appropriation for a site not
expended. The probablity is that within the year you will be able
to buy that site—you will be in a position to buy it—but as that site
is not included in this list you could not buy it if we adopt this
Janguage, even though all the conditions were ripe and ready for the
purchase.
Mr. NEWTON. Probably there has been an appropriation made for
the site which you have in mind.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand; but you are taking that appropria-
tion and putting it in the lump sum for certain other buildings and
sites, and therefore you could not use it for that site even though
under this language the time arrived within the fiscal year, when
you were ready to make that expenditure, for you have by this lan-
guage transferred that sum. In fact, you can only use the sums
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heretofore appropriated for specific buildings for those buildings, if
this language was adopted, because you take it from those buildings
and transfer it to these buildings to be utilized only for these pur-
poses until expended. -
Mr. NEWTON. I do not think that is the case.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is a fair interpretation of the language. You
construe this language, then, not as a permanent transfer for the
purposes for which appropriated but a conditional transfer ?
Mr. NEWTON. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. Providing you want to use it or find that it is con-
venient to use it for other purposes? -
Mr. NEWTON. Precisely so.
Mr. MoRDELL. Of course, if you did use it for other purposes, then
another specific appropriation in the future would be required?
Mr. NEWTON. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. Unless in the future Congress continued the plan
which this seems to contemplate of making lump-sum appropriations
to be expended in the judgment of the Supervising Architect’s Office?
Mr. NEWTON. Yes. w
Mr. MoRDELL. But how are you going to keep books on that?
For instance, you have so many hundred thousand dollars available
for specific sites and a certain sum available for buildings, if you use
a certain part of it, does that take from certain specific buildings, or
does it simply reduce the lump sum by a certain amount? -
Mr. WETMORE. It would reduce the lump sum, but the books would
have to be kept with reference to the limits of cost fixed by Congress
in each case.
Mr. MoRDELL. Then you would not know until after you used this
lump sum just what buildings specifically appropriated for hereto-
fore have been deprived of their appropriation by the fact that you
have used the appropriation for other buildings?
Mr. WETMORE. Oh, yes, we would; we would know the balances
we took from each appropriation to make up this lump sum.
Mr. MoRDELL. But, finally, there would come a time, when, having
used this lump sum for certain other purposes, there would not be
enough to provide for the buildings which have been specifically
appropriated for 7
Mr. WETMORE. In that case we would have to ask for a specific
appropriation to take the place of the money that had been taken
away. -
The CHAIRMAN. Would you do that or would you continue to ask
for lump-sum appropriations? Is not the idea to wipe out all spe-
cific appropriations and have a general appropriation out of which
you would pay for the work to be done on the buildings under way
as it became necessary to use the appropriations within the limits of
cost? -
Mr. WETMORE. No ; the idea was not to do anything more than
to clear up these balances so we can start again and get rid of having
such a large amount of unexpended balances on our books. It would
be advantageous from a business standpoint, and perhaps from the
standpoint of the Appropriation Committee itself, but not, perhaps,
to the interests of the members, if we could ask for lump-sum
appropriations on account of public buildings, because, as I said a
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while ago, we know that when we ask for appropriations on account
of 100 buildings that there are going to be a number of them for
which we will not need that amount of money, but we can not tell
which ones. But if you provided a lump-sum appropriation we
could discount that ourselves, and you could say, “Is it not your
experience that you do not finish more than a certain percentage of
your buildings within the contract time,” and by going over our
books we could tell you what that percentage has been. .
The CHAIRMAN. If you ever asked for lump-sum appropriations
and you were four or five years behind in your work, Congress
would not only give you all you asked for but probably more.
Mr. NEwTON. We frequently ask for, say, $1,000 for the survey-
ing and test pits and maybe it will not cost more than $50, and there
would be another advantage. Of course, that is a very small mat-
ter, but it all counts up in the end. -
The CHAIRMAN. Now, take the instance to which I called atten-
tion, and there may be some other cases similar to this one where the
appropriation is for the site, and any balance to be used in putting
up the building; for the enlargement of the present site, and any
unexpended balance of the appropriation may be used for the altera-
tion or remodeling and repairing of the buildings on the plan re-
quired for temporary use pending extension of present buildings.
Now, unless the site was paid for and the work of remodeling or re-
pairing commenced before this bill became a law, if there were any
balance there you could not possibly use it under this language
Mr. WETMORE (interposing). That is true.
The CHAIRMAN. And that would be a disadvantage as far as that
particular project is concerned. -
Mr. WETMORE. But in your Brooklyn case, condemnation has been
had and the award is ready to be confirmed.
The CHAIRMAN. You say you have about $11,000,000 that you
expect to use within a reasonable time?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And the balance of about $10,000,000 is tied up
for some reason or other? g
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Could you give us a statement of the buildings in
which those balances are tied up and the reasons?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; I think so.
STATEMENT OF BAT, ANC ES OF AIPIPROPRIATIONS RIEMA IN ING UN [CX]? EN I)}. D FOR WA RIOUS
FROJECTS.
Referring to the balance of approximately $21,000,000 available on the books
of the Office of the Supervising Architect December 1, 1914, the following
eXplanation is made :
At our present rate of output and expenditure it is anticipated that we will
expend between December 1, 1914, and June 30, 1915, the sum of $7,000,000.
This amount deducted from the $21,000,000 leaves a balance to account for Of
$14,000,000, which under the lump-sum arrangement would carry us through
the fiscal year 1916.
If the lump sum is not appropriated and appropriations are made specifically
for each item, certain of the appropriations now On the books will not be
touched, except possibly in part, until after the fiscal year 1916. In addition
Certain of the amounts estimated for in the revised or Supplemental estimates
will not be used during 1916 and will naturally add to such sum. This very
carrying-over process is what brings about the big balance above referred to.
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In specific response to the inquiry of the committee as to what projects have
been and are held up, SO to speak, the folowing lists and statements are given.
The list immediately following indicates the name of the project, the amount
Of the appropriation therefor, and the reasons for the same being held up.
It shows a total appropriation of $1,373.854.52:
Argenta, Ark., balance of appropriation------------------------ $10,000. 00
This project is held up on request of Senator, etc. - - -
Cicero, Ill., balance of appropriation--------------------------- 7, 000. 00
This project is held up on account of suit incident to securing
title. , º ‘. w
Couer d’Alene, Idaho, balance of appropriation__________________ 16. S00. 00
On October 28, 1914, communications were addressed to
Senator James H. Brady and Hon. Burton L. French advising
them that the amount available is not adequate to provide a
building in accordance with the present requirements. The
amount available for the construction of the building is $86,800.
The original authorization was for a building for post office
purposes only. Subsequent legislation authorized accommoda-
tions for the COurts.
To provide reasonable accommodations for all branches of the
service desiring space, including the Department of Justice, it is
estimated that $110,000 will be necessary, or $24,000 more than
is available under the present limit.
Since the (late of the above-mentioned communications a bill
(H. R. 19908) has been introduced in the House of Representa-
tives by Mr. French providing for an increase of $25,000.
Eureka Springs. Ark., balance of appropriation *- - 24, 000. 00
The limit of cost for site and building at this place is $57,500,
of which amount $7,500 has been expended for a site, leaving
$50,000 available for a building.
It has been estimated that a two-story building of 4,000
square feet ground area will be required to provide accommoda- -
tions for the Government officials. To construct such a building
fireproof throughout, $70,000 will be required, or $20,000 more
than is available under the present limit. -
This matter was called to the attention of Representative
Floyd on October 21, 1914. As no reply was received to this
letter, the attention of the Congressman was again called to the
matter. On December 22, 1914.
Goldfield, Nev., balance of appropriation------------------------ 15, 000. 00
No proposal for the sale of land for a site has been accepted, -
and it seems that it will be necessary to make a further investi-
gation of available properties before a site is Selected.
In view of the above, it would appear that funds will not
be required for use on this building.
-
-
Honolulu, Hawaii, balance of appropriation-------------------- 475, 468. 71
Action has been deferred in this case pending litigation, etc.
Juneau, Alaska, balance of appropriation----------------------- 56, 971. 70
The work on drawings for this building has been Suspended
for the following reasons:
There is available for the construction of the building
$177,500. Sketches have been commenced for a two-story-and-
basement building of about 10,500 square feet ground area, to
accommodate the Post Office, Customs Service, General Land
Office, Bureau of Mines, and Steamboat and Inspection Bureau.
It is proposed to make the walls of such size as will be Suffi-
cient to carry an additional story. The experience of the de-
partment in constructing the executive mansion at Juneau indi-
cates that the present funds are not sufficient to erect a build-
ing as described above, and that an increase of $150,000 will
be necessary for the work, including a cost of $15,000 in Connec-
tion with the approaches, due to the natural Contour of the Site.
Congress was memorialized in May, 1913, by the Tolºritorial
legislature to increase the amount authorized for the building,
in order to provide accommodations for the Territorial legis-
lature and a library and museum. Should this receive favor-
able consideration, an increase of $300,000 will he necessary.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 10'7
The above Conditions were called to the attention of Hon.
James Wickersham On March 17, 1914, and on March 24 he
introduced a bill (H. R. 14993) proposing to increase the limit
of cost for the building by the sum of $450,000. i
Lancaster, Pa., balance of appropriation —- $138, 278. 78
Work on this project was held pending legislation providing
for additional land and for further legislation making avail-
able for a new site the unexpended balance from the above.
JJOngwiew, TeX., balance Of appropriation * * a 23, 500. 00
Work here was held up at the request of the Senator pending
efforts to obtain all increased appropriation for which a bill was
introduced in the Senate (S. 6637) on October 13. On October
26, however, the Senator requested the department to proceed
with the work on the basis of the funds available, and this ac-
tion has been taken. *
Millville, N. J., balance of appropriation 5, 300.00
The Work at this place is held up pending the result of steps
which have been taken to Secure an increase in the limit of cost.
A bill (H. R. 15802) was introduced in Congress April 18, 1914,
providing for an increase in the limit of cost from $55,000 to
$105,000. Upon this bill the department submitted a report to
the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds, October 3,
1914, in which it Was estimated that a one-story-and-basement
building Of 6,000 feet ground area is required, and that such a
building, fireproof throughout and with brick facing, of very
simple design, would cost $75,000, necessitating an increase in
the present limit cost Of $35,000.
Newark, Ohio, balance Of appropriation 71, 455. 50
The question relative to the retention of the present site or
its Sale Or exchange is still under considelation, and it can not
now be stated when the construction of the building will be
resumed.
Putnam, Conn., balance of appropriation------------------------ 36, 344. Of
This project has been held up because Of proposed change Ill
site. Some Opposition to the present site apparently exists, and
considerable investigation of the matter has been made. One
inspector sent out by the Post Office Department favored the
present site, while another inspector thought a change should
be made, which would, of course, involve legislation authorizing
the Sale Of the present Site and the Securing Of a new One.
A bill (H. R. 15436) providing for this course is now pending
in Colmgress. A further investigation of the site matter was
made by an agent of this department on October 23, 1914, who
does not consider the present site a desirable location for the
post-Office building, although he suggests an arrangement by
which it might be possible to utilize it to advantage. He COn-
siders that a better location would be at SOme Joints On Ellul
Street between Front and Bridge Streets. The acquired Site is
situated at South Main, Grove, and School Streets. If there
should be a change in site determined upon by Congress the
erection of the building will, of course, be greatly delayed, and
the amount estimated for will not be required.
St. Petersburg, Fla., balance of appropriation.------------------- 34, 975. 00.
This work has been held up pending result of proposed legis- -
lation increasing the limit of cost for the building and Site. A
bill (H. R. 18783) was introduced in Congress providing for an
increase from $80,000 to $115,000, of which amount not exceed-
ing $15,000 was to be expended for additional land. This bill
has been reported upon favorably by the Committee on Public
Buildings and Grounds, with the exception that they recommend
that not exceeding $12,500 of the increase be expended for the
additional land. - *
Seymour, Ind., balance of appropriation------------------------ 19, 965. (O
The additional legislation referred to in the hearings is pro-
vided for in H. R. 18172, and, as stated therein, is a proposed
increase of $15,000, or so much thereof as may he necessary to
108 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
meet the additional cost of substituting stone instead of brick
with Stone trimmings in the construction of the building.
The deparment has reported on this bill under date of August
7, 1914, to the effect that the sum named ($15,000) will be re-
quired to substitute stone for brick facings above the level of
the first floor and stone for wood Cornice.
Steubenville, Ohio, balance of appropriation –7 $30,000.00
This project was held up at the request of the Congressman in
October, 1913, pending efforts looking to the establishment of
Courts in Steubenville, Ohio. *
There is a bill (H. R. 8426) pending in Congress providing for
an increased appropriation of $100,000 to provide for additional
land and enlargement of building. Unless the suspension is re-
moved it will not be possible to proceed with the work as con-
templated, and the amount asked for will not be required. -
Sunbury, Pa., balance of appropriation * * 64, 960. 00
This work has been held pending efforts to obtain an increased
appropriation to provide for the accommodation of courts at this
place, the holding of which was authorized in bill approved
June 6, 1914. The pending bill in Congress which provides for
an increase in the limit of cost of $250,000 is H. R. 15532. This
bill was reported on by the department in letter to the Com-
mittee on Public Buildings and Grounds of the House of Rep-
resentatives on August 4, 1914. *-
There is also a bill (S. 1706) pending in the Senate upon
which a similar report was sent to the Committee on Public
Buildings and Grounds of that body on September 11 last. - In
both these reports the department declined to make a recom-
mendation relative to the proposed increase, for the reason that
it is understood that the court will be held in Sunbury but Once
a year.
Waltham, Mass., balance of appropriation---------------------- 38,948. 30
The work on this building has been held because of insuffi-
cient funds and pending result of effort to secure an increase in
the limit of cost as provided for in H. R. 13489.
The department reported on this bill under date of July 28,
1914, in which it is stated that to provide a building necessary
to accommodate the various branches of the public service will
require $145 000. The present limit of cost for site and build-
ing is $115,000, of which there remains available for the con-
struction of the building $68,948.80.
Wilson, N. C., balance of appropriation------------------------- 35,000. 00
The work on this project has been held pending efforts look-
ing to the establishment of courts to be held at Wilson, N. C.
If this legislation is enacted a larger building than as at pres-
ent provided for will be required, and to meet this contingency
a bill (S. 6918) has been introduced which provides for an in-
crease of cost from $50 000 to $125,000.
Yonkers, N. Y., balance of appropriation------------------------ 249, 887. 53
Condemnation proceedings have been instituted for the ac-
quisition of the site at this place, and while the award has not
been made, it is considered doubtful whether it will be possible
to Secure the land under condemnation for an amount within
the amount available, i. e., $250,000. In any event, it is not
probable that it will be possible to secure the site prior to the
beginning of the fiscal year 1916, and it is therefore unlikely
that the amount estimated for will be required.
Total--------------------------------------------------- 1, 373, 854. 52
In addition to the foregoing there are certain other classes of projects which
were incidentally referred to in the hearings. The balances of appropriation
made in account thereof constitute a part of the proposed lump-sum appropria-
tion. These projects are shown in the following schedules:
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
109.
Alliance, Ohio______
Baltimore, Md., immigration station
Beaver Falls, Pa----------------
Boise, Idaho
BOston, Mass., immigration station * * *
Boston, Mass., appraisers’ stores-------------------------------
Brattleboro, Vt.-------------------
Charlotte, N. C
Chillicothe, Mo
* * sºme mºst ºss sº sºme - - - - -
Concord, N. H. *
Corpus Christi, Tex-__________
Danville, III–––––––––––––––––––––––
Des Moines, Iowa-___________
Elkins, W.
Everett, Wash------ -- *ms -
Fairbanks, Alaska_____
Fayetteville, Tenn.--______ * * * - * *
Galveston, Tex., post office and customhouse - -
Galveston, Tex., Courthouse -
Hanover, Pa-_______ smº - ºr
Hinton, W. Wa
Key West, Fla., marine hospital
Kinston, N. C––––––––––
La Junta, Colo–––––––––––––––––––
La Salle, Ill--------------------------------------------------
Las Vegas, N. Mex--------------------------------------------
* * * * * * * *m, smºs ºss mº sºme amº amº ºms ms sºme mºsºm.
Lincoln, Nebr__ - - * * *
Live Oak, Fla-i----- -
McCook, Nebr----------- - - -
Mandal), N. Dak—— -
Marlin, Tex - *
Middlesboro, Ky
Morristown, N. J.____
New Albany, Ind -
New Castle, Ind --
New York, N. Y., assay office * *
Opelika, Ala * * *
Pendleton, Oreg
Philadelphia, Pa., Mint (coal bunkels)
Plainfield, N. J.__ sº-
Portland, Me., quarantine Station- ––––4––––––––
Reading, Pa -d
Red Bluff, Cal
Santa Fe, N. Mex-- -
Smyrna, Del
The Dalles, Oreg
Tulsa, Okla
Uvalde, Tex
Washington, D. C., Interior Department offices
Wilkeshoro, N. C__ - -
Wilmington, N. C., customhouse
* * * *-* * = &ºme ºr * *-* * = sºme sm am sºme ºm, ºr
Total *
PROJECTS EIELD BECAUSE OF SITE COMPLICATIONS.
Albion, Mich
Ardmore, Okla
Blackwell, Okla
Canton, Miss------------ sm amas sº - - -
PROJECTS HELD FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS, AMENDMENT OF LEGISLATION INVoI,VING
CELANGES IN BUILDING, ETC., EITHER BY REQUEST OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS on
BECAUSE OF THE NECESSITY OF CONDITIONS APPARENT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
$87,000.
96, 230.
5,000.
43,382.
310, 178.
451, 658.
64, 978.
224, 709.
39, 975.
32, 000.
66. S11.
6, 866.
60,000.
S4, 700.
82, 951.
15, 000.
26, 401.
15, 000.
50, 000.
7, 000.
49, 877.
39, 909.
49, 791.
54, 877.
50, 825.
18, 000.
29, 976.
64, 330.
29, 855.
119, 970.
42,917.
44, 873.
13, 950.
44, 900.
72, 996.
57,800.
320,000.
49, 862.
48, 877.
19, SS4.
39, 793.
43, 870.
60,000.
12,000.
1, 100.
20, 000.
29, 012.
134, 970.
13, 965.
37, 741.
20, 000.
111, 561.
3, 518, 231.
$3,000.
142, 000.
00.
00
00
00
98.
54
92.
60
00)
00
00
46
O0.
O0
00
7, 500. OO
14, 640.
00
110 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Chanute, Kans------------------------------------------------ $19,869. 00
Chicago, Ill., post-office site £ 1, 750, 000. 00
Elrono, Okla 18, 972. 00
Fulton, Mo--------------------------------------------------- 6, 190.00
Glens Falls, N. Y__ * * 36, 500.00
Greenfield, Mass-------------- * * * S. 286. 00
Ishpeming, Mich * gº º 32, 900. 00
Mount Vernon, N. Y------------------------------------------ 69, 760. 00
Muskegon, Mich---------------------------------------------- 10, 000. 00
Palatka. Fla-------------------------------------------------- 23, 000. 00
Quitman, Ga - 9,945. 00
Robinson, Ill-------------- -------------------- 4, 890. 00
Sparta, Wis-------------------------------------------------- 27, 000. 00
'Tiffin, Ohio_________ ºz º. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7,438. 50
**º-º-º-º:
d!--------------------------------------------------- 2, 191, 890. 50
T'ROJECTS ON WW IIICIT UN EXPENDED BALANCES REMAIN BECAUSE OF CHIANGES IN
SCHEDULE OF WORK, AS SET FORTH IN SECRETARY'S LETTER TO SPEAKER OF
Hous E OF MAY 6, 1914 (H. Doc. No. 967).
Beardstown, Ill------------------------------------------------- $7, S01.00
Cuero, Tex 34, 854. 00
East Pittsburgh, Pa * - - S42. 0()
Fort Atkinson, Wis 3, 375. 00
Gardiner, Me – 3,000. 00
Gouverneur, N. Y. - 10, 380. 00
Tawton, Okla—— 54, 698. 2S
Monongahela, Pa----- ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 25, 122.00
Park City, Utah------------------------------- gº ºn tº 23,000. 00
Webb City, Mo 26, 383. 50
Wellsburg, W. Wa 1,050.00
Ypsilanti, Mich--_____ * * 12, 200.00
Total ------ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * gºgº ºne ºm, º. ººm º º ºs º- º ºs º-, * --> 202, 705. 78
PROJECTS FIELD BICCAUSE BIDS EXCEEDED AMOUNT AWAIT, ABLE AND IT WAS NECIESSARY
TO REVISE DRAWINGS AND AGAIN PLACE WORK ON MARKET, RESULTING IN DELAY
IN USE OF FUNDS ESTIMATED FOR BEYONI) THE TIME EXPECTED.
Bozeman, Mont------------------------------------------------- $37, 410. 00.
Bryant, Tex--------------------------------------------------- 40, 100.00
Cookeville, Tenn.------------------------------------------------ 52, 915. 00
Covington, Tenn.------------------------------------------------ 31, 938. 00
Panbury. Conn------------------------------------------------- 24, 850. 00
St. Louis, MO. Customhouse------------------------------------- 99, 985. 00
Total---------------------------------------------------- 2S7, 198. 00
The following projects were estimated for with the expectation that they
would be reached at an earlier date than has been the Case :
Canton, Ill------------------ - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- *-* $42,935. 00
Medford, Oreg-------------------------------------------------- 98, 999. 00
Stamford, Conn-------------------------------------------- ---- 49,861. 00
Totill---------------------------------------------------- 101,795. 00
Miles City, Mont----------------------------------------------- $12.425.00
This project was held pending settlement Óf the question as
to the main frontage on the building.
North Attleboro, Mass––––––– - as-s areas sºme sº mºsº º sm sº mº m sºme sº- * - * * * * * * * 5.820. 00
This project was held up because of a desired change in the
type of building, etc.
Gary, Ind------------------------------------------------------- 74, 999. 00
This project held for revision of drawings on account of addi-
tional accommodations requested.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 111
Ennis, Tex -
• * * * * * - $14,000.00
This project held on account of local agitation relative to the
position of the structure on the site.
Total---------------------------------------------------- 107, 244. 00
SITES IN T 111, 1913 BILL FOR WITICH AIONEY HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED BUT Not
EX?ENDED TO DEC. 1, 1914.
Albertville, Ala
* - - - * * *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $5, 000. ()0
Albia. 10Wil------------------------------------------------------ 5,000. 00
Attalla, Ala----------------------------------------------------- 5, 000. 0()
Barbour Ville, KY------------------------------------------------ 4, 300. 00
Benton Harbor, Mich-------------------------------------------- 25, 000. ()()
Brinkley, Ark
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = - - - - -s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4; 000. 00
Caldwell, Idaho------------------------------------------------- 10, 000. OO
Calumet, Mich--------------------------------------------- _____ 12, 000.00
Canon City, Colo------------------------------------------------ 13. 500. OO
Cape Charles Wi------------------------------------------------ 3, 700.00
Carlinville, Ill------------ ------------ 8, 000.00
Carrollton, III--------------------------------------------------- 5,000.00
Caruthersville, MO------------ 3, 250.00
Chicago, Ill----------------------------------------------------- 50, 000.00
Colfax, Wash--------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - sm- ºr “ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7, 000. 00
Conway, Ark 2,000.00
Crockett, Tex - 6,000, 00
Decatur, Ind---------------------------------------------------- 9,900. 0ſ)
De Funiak Springs, Fla- - * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5,000. 00
Delphos, Ohio-------- * * * - - - * = ** - - - - - - - - - * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6. ()00. 00
Platonton, Ga--------------------------------------------------- 3,750. 00
Edenton, N. C.-------------------------------------------------- 7, 500.00
El Dorado, Alºk---------- 5,000. 00
Elizabethton, Tenn.---------------------------------------------- 2, 500.00
Elizabethtown, Ky----------------------------------------------- 5, ()00. ()()
Eminence, KY--------------------------------------------------- 7, 500. O0
Forest City, Alk_____----- *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4, 500. 00
Forsyth, Ga----------------------------------------------------- 5,000. 00
Frederick, Okla------------------------------------------------- 10, 000. 00
Breenville, Ala-------------------------------------------------- 5,000. ()0
Hal'I'Oddsburg, IXy---------- * - - - - -m º - - - *m, sºme ºn- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * - - 7, 500.00
Havana, Ill------------------------ - ____ 9, 000. 00
Hodgernville, KY------------------------------------------------ 4, S50.00
Rey West. I’la., post office--- * - - - -, * * *- - - - - - - - - - * * - - - - - - - - TO, ()00. 00
Lebanon. Ind----------------------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 9. S00. ()0
Manassas, Vil--------------------------------------------------- 3, 7:50, 00
Marengo, Iowa ––––––––––––––––– - * * * * - *- *- *s, *-* *-* -, - sº- * * * * * * * * * * 3, 500. 00
Memphis, Tenn.-------------------------------------------------- 4, 100.00
Mendota, Ill---------------------------------------------------- 10, 000. 00
Milbank, S. Dak-------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — ...— — — — — — — — — — -- - - - - - - 4, 000.00
Millersburg. Ohio------------------------------------------------ 7, 000, 00
Modesto. Cill---------------------------------------------------- 20, 000. 00
Monroe, Ga 5,000.00
Monte Vista, Colo___--____ - * - ------------------------ 5, 000. 00
Morgan City, La------------------------------------------------ 4, 200.00
Mountain Grove, MO--------------------------------------------- (3, 500, (K)
Mount Olive, N. C_____ - = - - - -- * = ** - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * 2. ()00. 0()
Nampa, Idaho------------------------------— — — — — — — — — — — — —- w-ºn amº tº “… - - 9, 500.00
Napoleon, Ohio-------------------------------------------- ____ T, 500. 00
Nephi, Utah---------------------------------------------------- 5, 000, 00
Newcastle, Wyo------------------------------------------------ 3,000.00
New Martinsville, W. Va.--------------------------------------- 12, 500. 00
New Philadelphia, Ohio_------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 12, 500. 00
Newton, IOWä -------------------------------------------------- 10, 000. 00
Noblesville, Ind------------------------------------------------- 19,099.99
Oelwein, IOWa. -------------------------------------------------- S, 000.00
Plymouth, Ind-------------------------------------------------- 10, 000. 00
Prestonsburg, Ky----------------------------------------------- 5, 000. 0ſ)
112 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Provincetown, Mass
Rogersville, Tenn
Salem, Ind
Salem, N. J.
Sherman, Tex - - -
Sikeston, MO -
South Framingham, Mass
Sterling, Colo--__ -
* * * * * * * * * * *m m = <= smº sºme amº ºme ºmº
Stuttgart, Ark
Thomas, Ga
Tyrone, Pa-
Unionville, Mo
Vermilion, S. Dak
Warsaw, Ind-
Woodstock, Va.- ---
SITE AND BUILDING OR BUILDINGS, 1913 BILL, FOR W HICEI MONEY HAS
PRIATED BUT NOT EXPENDED TO DEC. 1, 1914.
Altus, Okla ------
Amherst, Mass–––
Andalusia, Ala
Apalachicola,
Bad Axe, Mich
* * * * * * * * * * *
Fla
Batavia, Ill-------------------- --
Batavia, N. Y. ---
* * * * * * * * * * * * *-* -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
IBellefoul’che, S. Dak --
Bemidji, Minn
Berwick, Pa-__
Branford, Conn––
Brenham, Tex
Brooklyn, N. Y. * -
Buffalo, N. Y___ *.
Cape Fear, N. C., quarantine station -- *-
Carroll, Iowa
Cedar Falls, IOWa----------------- *
Central City, Nebr *
Chamberlain, S. Dak - * *
Chandler, Okla •ms
Charlestown, W.
Cheboygan, Mich-----------
Cherokee, IOWa.
Cherryvale, Kalns
Clinton, Ind
Clinton, S. C
Cohoes, N. Y. -
Comanche, Tex --re
Coshocton, Ohio . 4.
Dawson, Ga
Denton, Tex ––––––––––––––––––.
Des Moines, courthouse
Donora, Pa-
DOliglas, Ga-----
Eldora (IO, ſans
Tºureka, Utah
Fairmont, Minn
Fallon, NeW--___ --
. Fort Plain, N. Y.
Franklin, N. H.
Franklin, Tenn
Gallipolis, Ohio
Gallatin, Tenn
6;eneseo, Ill-- * * º
Gilmer, TeX --------------------------------- •= &º ->
* * * * * * * * *-ºs - * * * * * * * *
* *-* * * - ºr ºr 4-sº sº sºme * * * * * *
sºme sºme º sº- mºm. * * * * *-* * * * * * *
* - sº sº-º; amº ºsmº - ms tº ºme sº- ºr mº ºmis ºr -º
$8,000.00
2,
O00. 00
5, 000. 00
9, 500.00
5, 000. 00
7, 500. 00
20, 000. 00
15, 000. 00.
4, 000. 00
5, 000. 00
24, 000. 00
5,000. 00
4, 500.00
10, 000. 00
4, 250. 00
643, 350. 00
BEEN APPRO-
$15,000.00
15, 000. 00
25. U0
7, 500.00
4, 800. 00
23, 950. 00
5,000. 00
15,000. 00
4, 500.00
9, 000.00
11,000.00
11, 000. 00
5, 000. 00
350, 000. 00
8, 000. 00
25, 000.
8, 000.
10,000.
6, 000.
3, 500.
4, 700.
7, 500.
S, 500.
10, 600.
1, 500.
14, 000.
5, 500.
40,000.
5,000.
1,000.
5, 000.
1, 500.
75,000.
13, 300.
5, 000.
5, 250.
5,000.
5, 000.
5,000.
S. 000.
24, 500.
7,450.
12, 500.
6, 000.
10,000.
5, 000.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
II.3.
Girard; Kans
Glasgow, Ky–––––––––––––––––
Glenwood Springs, Colo
Harrisonville, MO__
Hastings, Mich- -
Hollidaysburg, Pa. -- -
HOOpeston, Ill ––––.
Houghton, Mich
Indiana, Pa
Jerseyville, Ill--
Kendleville, Ind
Kenton, Ohio
Lakeland, Fla.
* * - - - * *
-- - - - ess - - - - * * *- - - -
Leesberg, Va.-----------------
Lewistown, Pa-___ - * * *
Liberty, Mo -
- * * * - - - - - - - - -s.
LOCkhaven, Pa--
Long Island City, N. Y__
Marianna, Ark--
Marianna, Fla
Marion, Ill -------------------------
Martins Ferry, Ohio
McRees Rocks, Pa
Memplmis, Tenn., subpost office, site and building
Metropolis, Ill -
Midland, Mich-
-Mineral Point, Wis
Mount Pleasant, Mich--------------
Mont Pleasant, TeX------------------
Mystic, Conn - -
New Orleans, La., Customhouse
New Orleans, La., qual” intine station wharf
Newport, R. I., post office and customhouse
Nogales, Ariz., customhouse
North Topeka, Kans
North Vernon, Ind
NortOln, Va -*
Oakland, Cal——
Oconto, Wis
Olney, Ill
Olyphant, Pa
Paxton, Ill
Phoenixville, Pa
Pittsburgh, Pa., Bureau of Mines
Pittston, Pa., post office
Portland, Oreg
Poughkeepsie, N. Y.
Pratt, Kans
Reedy Island. Del
Rhinelander, Wis
Ripon, Wis w
Rochester, Ind
Rogers, Ark
Russelville, Ark
St. Peter, Minn
San Francisco, Cal., quarantine station
San Luis Obispo, Cal
San Pedro, Cal--------
Sayre, Pa
Seattle, Wash., post office
Sha Wnee, Okla––––––––––––––––––
Sioux City, Iowa, lookouts–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
**tº Cºlle”, ”-- ------------------------------------------
Syracuse, N. Y., building
Tampa Pay, Fla., quarantine station
72785–15—8
* - - - - -ºs - 4-
* * *-* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
* - - - - --> *-* -
* * * * * * * *-* * * * * * * = - - - - - - -
* * - - - - sm as - - - sm mºs. - - - - * * *
- * *-* - - - - - - - - - - gº º - - - - - - - - - * * -
*
$6,000.00
7, 500. OO.
9, 500. 0ſ)
3, 000. O0
6,750. 00
12, 000. 00
10, 000. OO
25,000. 00
25,000. OO.
8,900. 00
18,000.00.
14,000. 00.
10, 000. 00
4, O00. O0.
8, 750, 00
16, 000. 00
7, 500.00
22, 500. 00
100,000. 00
6, 500. OO
4,000.00
15,000. 00
15, 000. 00
15, 000. OO
90, 000.00
10, 000. 00
4, 300. 00
4, 500.00
7, 500.00
5,000. 00
4, 000. 00
100,000. 00
12, 000. 00.
16, 000. 0ſ)
16, 000. 00
11, 000. O0
13, 500. 00
45, 250.00
115,000. 00.
3,000. 00
6, 500.00.
13, 500.00
12,000: 00
15, 999. 50
148,967. 50
20, 000.00
159,700. 65
28, 000.00.
7, 400, 00:
33, 500.00.
5, 500.00
10, 400. 00.
8, 200.00
4,000. 00
6, 000. 00
2,000. 00
55,000. 00
9,000. 00
6,000. 00
S, 000.00
30, 500. 00
21, 000. 00
1, 500. 00
1, 285, ()()
10, 000: 00
65,000. 00
1.14 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
... Thibodaux, Fla----------------------------------------------- $5,000.00
Thomasville, N. C * 8,000. 00
Toledo, Ohio, Customhouse and Courthouse 25,000.00
Tomah, Wis - 5, 000.00
Tullahoma, Tenn 7,000.00
Valpariso, Ind 8, 200.00
Vernal, Utah 4,750. 00
Vineland, N. J. 12, 000.00
Vinton, Iowa------------------------------------------------- 9,000.00
Washington, D. C., Butler Building 7,000.00
Washington, D. C., National Archives Building 5,000. 00
Washington, Mo 6, 500.00
Washington Court House, Ohio * * * 3,000. 00
Water Valley, Miss 7, 000. 00
Waynesburg, Pa 15, 500.00
Wilmington, N. C., marine hospital 5,000. 00
Wilmington, Ohio 12, 500.00
Winchester, Mass 20, 000.00
Woodward, Okla 8,000. 00
Wyandotte, Mich * * 15, 950. 00
Total__
| j SITE BALANCES.
* * * * *
* * * * * * *
2, 534, 377. 65
The following amounts were left on hand after the purchase of sites, and will
be turned back into the surplus fund if no additional land is purchased :
The Bronx, New York City--------------------------------------- $9,010. 75
Cicero, Ill------------------------------------------------------- 1, 000. 00
Fairfield, IoWa--------------------------------------------------- 200. 00
Hallowell, Me---------------------------------------------------- 13, 500. 00
Kissimmee, Fla-------------------------------------------------- 1, 000. 00
San Bernardino, Cal--------------------------------------------- 3, 500.00
Waynesboro, Ga--------------------------------- * * * 906. (5
Grand total of the 10 foregoing statements, $11,079,764.03.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Secretary, did we appropriate for all the sites
authorized up to date?
29, 117. 50
Mr. NEWTON. Appropriations were made in the last sundry civil
bill and the deficiency bill for nearly all of them. I think there were
possibly a few that were omitted.
The CHAIRMAN. In addition to the buildings you have some items
The Supervising
here which we can probably go through now.
Architect's Office, by the direction of the Secretary and at our request,
furnished the committee the usual information relative to the build-
ings in course of construction, condition of the appropriation—with
a statement showing the sums required for the particular buildings
set forth in the bill. This is up to what date?
Mr. NEWTON. Up to December 1.
The CHAIRMAN. That information commences on page 38 of the
hearings, and in addition there are certain items like the following:
ALEXANDRIA, L.A., RENT OF QUARTERs.
(see p. 39.1
Alexandria, La., rent of buildings: For rent of temporary quarters for accom-
modation of Government officials and moving expenses incident thereto, $4,000.
Why is this? Aş g
Mr. WETMORE. That is an extension of the building, and we have
to take the officials out of the building while the work is being done.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 115
The CHAIRMAN. How do you, figure on the amount of rent you
will require? Do you ask for the amount necessary for one year,
or just a lump sum to cover rent and moving? Just how is that
done?
Mr. WETMORE. In some cases we have asked it in one way and in
other cases in the other way. This covers a period of one year.
The CHAIRMAN. And includes in addition the moving expenses?
Mr. WETMORE, Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How is that sum arrived at'
Mr. WETMORE. Usually we have some difficulty in finding tem-
porary quarters. We take bids locally for suitable buildings. We
state the amount of space we require and have our custodian on the
ground look about and see where he can find sufficient space, if
possible, in one building, to accommodate all the activities of the
services. If not, he has to split them up according to the branches of
the service to be accommodated, and get the best bids he possibly can.
It costs us really a little more to rent than it does a private indi-
vidual who is renting, for this reason, that quarters which would be
suitable for a store or business purposes are not suitable for a post
office. There have to be some rearrangements made and certain
spaces fitted up to suit the postal authorities. We can not take a rent
appropriation and use it to make repairs and alterations. We tell
the owner what we want in the way of layout of the office rooms and
then ask for his rental. His rental is usually large enough to include
the outlay he has to make in arranging his building for the Govern-
ment's use, because when we vacate he has to tear out practically all
that he has put in. . . . . . . . . .
The CHAIRMAN. Does he make the alterations and arrangements?
Mr, WETMORE. His price is for the rental of a building suitably
arranged for the prosecution of the public business. We cut down
the cost as much as we can by allowing the owner, in fitting up the
building, to take from the Federal building the counters and screens,
vault doors, and things of that sort and use them with the under-
standing that they are to be returned. In other words, we get our
rent in that way cut down as much as we can so that the owner will
not have to be put to the expense of duplicating something that we
have which he can use. Usually the second year’s rental is very much
less because owners have made their expenditures for alterations, etc.,
and then they will reduce the rent. . . . - i
Mr. MonpELL. What public officials are to be accommodated at
Alexandria Ž - &
Mr. WETMORE. This print reads “post office and customhouse.” As
a matter of fact, it is a post office and courthouse. I do not know
what other officials are to be accommodated, but there is a post office
in the building and the usual court officials, and there may be in-
ternal-revenue officers or others. I could supply that information,
but I can not say now what other officials are accommodated.
Mr. MoRDELL. Has the post office heretofore been in a rented
building? - - - g
Mr. WETMORE. Oh, no. This building is a post office and court-
house which is to be remodeled. The appropriation for remodeling
that building is $65,000. * -
116 sun DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. MoRDELL. The appropriation is for remodeling the present
building and it is necessary to move the Goverment officials from the
Government building?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir.
AMIOUNT TO BE APIPROPRIATED FOR 1916 For BUILDINGS PREVIOUSLY AU-
THORIZED BUT NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
[See p. 124.]
Mr. GILLETT. Before we take up the details, I would like to ask
One general question. Can you tell me about how much this class C
work will cost? I understand that is new extensions and new build-
ings; in other words, class C is for new improvements or new con-
struction? -
Mr. WETMORE. Our estimate of appropriation has that in detail.
Mr. GILLETT. I thought you could tell me offhand. w
h: WETMORE. Two hundred and some thousand dollars is stated
there.
Mr. GILLETT. It must be more than that.
Mr. WETMORE. You are asking for class C under this lump-sum
appropriation? -
Mr. GILLETT. It must be more than that.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; it is $12,000,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. What Mr. Gillett wants to know, as I understand it,
is what would be your estimates on all these enumerated projects if
you were to submit new estimates for them?
Mr. WETMORE. About $12,000,000. . º
Mr. GILLETT. In other words, if we did not begin any new work
this year you could cut out $12,000,000 of appropriations?
The CHAIRMAN. Or they could utilize all their balances.
Mr. GILLETT. That would take just as much money?
Mr. WETMORE. That would take just as much money but not a new
appropriation. - --
Mr. GILLETT. I mean to save the money and not the appropriation.
I suppose the only damage that would be done would be in causing
delay, because this is all new work?
Mr. WETMORE. It is work that has not been commenced at all.
Mr. GILLETT. I understand you either did not understand me or
your answer was not exactly to the point, and that it would not cost
$12,000,000 to do the new work?
Mr. WETMORE. Not for the new buildings alone.
Mr. GILLETT. I thought we misunderstood each other.
The CHAIRMAN. They are the new ones upon which work has not
been commenced, but which it is proposed to put under construction.
Mr. NEWTON. The new construction program for 1916.
Mr. GILLETT. I have this in mind, that in this time of economy we
ought to put off everything we can, and I understand this is new
work which could be postponed, and I wanted to know, if we did
that, how much saving there would be, and as I understand it, it
would not be $12,000,000. . . . r t
Mr. NEWTON. It would be less than that, because the $12,000,000 in-
cludes the whole program of extensions and everything. -
Mr. GILLETT. You can put that information in the record later.
SUNDRY” CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 117
Mr. MoRDELL. In other words, what we want, as I understand it.
is the amount which these enumerated buildings would total after
you estimated for each one of them the amount you desired to expend
the coming fiscal year.
*: GILLETT. Yes; that is it, provided this list contains all the new
WOPR.
Mr. NEWTON. As I said a few moments ago, this list is the list of
new buildings on sites already acquired, in 1908 and 1910, chiefly,
and we will probably reach this list, I should say, some time next
August; that is, the deferred projects and work now in hand will
occupy the architect's office up until the 1st of July, 1915, before the
new construction in this list can begin.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean that in 1916 your work will be all on
new projects?
Mr. NEWTON. Not all. There are always some uncompleted
projects lapping over, but largely the work will be upon these items.
Mr. GILLETT. Then, in general terms, the amount would be
sº I suppose; pretty much all the year’s work would be new
WOI’R
The CHAIRMAN. This list is of buildings upon which no work has
been commenced and for which appropriations are now asked so that
work may be commenced on them in the next fiscal year. What you
wish to know, Mr. Gillett, is how much is asked for work which has
not yet been commenced, but which it is proposed to commence in the
next year? -
Mr. GILLETT. Exactly; either new buildings or new additions.
The CHAIRMAN. You have furnished that information, but it is
not totaled. º
Mr. GILLETT. Mr. Wetmore, I understand that you have added up
these figures and that you find the new buildings and improvements
will cost about $4,000,000?
Mr. WETMORE. $4,055,000.
Mr. GILLETT. In addition to that, will there not be some other
buildings which you would take up under the lump-sum appropria-
tion, but which are not already commenced?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; there are probably other buildings which we
have authority to commence and for which we have appropriations,
but upon which we have not yet started work.
Mr. GILLETT. Will you also give me a statement of those build-
ings? I do not mean now, but at your leisure.
Mr. WETMORE. I can furnish it to you.
Mr. GILLETT. In other words, I would like to have a statement
of what you expect to spend for either new buildings or new exten-
sions in 1916. - -
Mr. WETMORE. Yes.
Analysis of a mount estimated to be earpended for 1916.
For sites contracted for----------------------------------------- $1,000
For sites not contracted for------------------------------------- 5,000
For sites and commencement of buildingS : -
Sites contracted for---- * sºme 34, 700
Sites not contracted for-- &= * tº 30, 300
Continuing buildings, extensions, and special repairs, actually under -
contract Tec. 1, 1914----------------------------------------- 2, 300, 500
* • * * O
118 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Commencement of above not under Contract Dec. 1, 1914, but for
which money was appropriated in part in prior acts------------- $6,987, 300
Buildings only, where nothing has been previously ap-
Dropriated $1,329,000
Extensions only, where nothing has been previously ap-
propriated – ---------- 1, 281, 000
— 2, 610, 000
Submitted items not previously authorized (including $96,500 for
“Rents of temporary quarters ”) - - - 216,000
Total----------------------------------------------------- 12, 184, S00
DETROIT, MICH., POST OFFICE MAIL-EIANDLING DEVICES.
[See p. 50.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Detroit, Mich., post office and
courthouse: For mail-handling devices, $25,000.” This is requested
by the Post Office Department? *
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; we have their request for that.
The CIIAIRMAN. Did we not make some provision for the enlarge-
ment of this building?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; $70,000 was the appropriation for the exten-
sion of the building.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that work under way?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; we have taken bids for that work.
The CHAIRMAN. We have appropriated the money?
Mr. WETMORE. The appropriation has been made and we are ready
to let the contract.
The CHAIRMAN. And now 'we are asked to appropriate $25,000 to
install mail-handling devices?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; which the Post Office Department has re-
quested us to ask for. a'
The CHAIRMAN. Why are they asking for these mail-handling de-
vices?
Mr. WETMORE. The extension of the building will make it a very
long building and it would be a very desirable thing to have these
devices. f
The CHAIRMAN. These are automatic carriers?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes; and would be in the interest of expediting the
handling of the mail.
The CHAIRMAN. Does the installation of these devices result in
any economy either of time or labor in the handling of the mails at
these buildings?
Mr. WETMORE. They undoubtedly do, but our office has not had
much experience in these matters, because we have not had author-
§ to put them in except in a few buildings, not more than four or
Ve.
The CHAIRMAN. In the past we have always installed these mail-
handling devices upon the request of the department?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes. s
The CHAIRMAN. And it is usual to install them only in a very large
building:
. . Mr. WETMORE. Yes. We have had not to exceed five buildings in
which these devices have been installed.
The CHAIRMAN. Is Detroit a large office?
' ' Mr. WETMORE. That is a large office and it is a quite good-sized
building, and the building is arranged so that the mail can only be
taken in at one end.
g
t
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 119
EAST ST. LOUIS, ILL., RENT OF QUARTERs.
[See p. 59.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “East St. Louis, Ill., rent of
buildings: For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation
of Government officials and moving expenses incident thereto,
$12,000.” -
Mr. WETMORE. That is the same sort of situation as Alexandria,
and this is to take care of the employees while the building is being
remodeled. -
Thé CHAIRMAN. The limit of cost of the extension is $240,000?
Mr. WETMORE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And it is expected that that work will be com-
menced in the third quarter of the fiscal year 1916, yet you do not
ask any money on that account?
Mr. WETMORE. Not on this sheet, because that is one of the build-
ings included in this lump sum. Ninety-five thousand dollars would
be used out of this lump-sum appropriation. ---
The CHAIRMAN. We will have to have a statement showing each
building, with the limit of cost, the amount appropriated, the bal-
ance unappropriated, and what it is estimated will be required dur-
ing the next fiscal year. We can not make any headway without that
information. -
MoRDAY, December 28, 1914.
PUBLIC BUILDINGS CONTINUED.
STATEMENT OF MR. BYRON R, NEWTON, ASSISTANT SECRETARY
OF THE TREASURY, AND MR. OSCAR WENDEROTH, SUPERWIS-
ING ARCHITECT.
SUPPLEMENTAL AND REVISED ESTIMATES.
[See p. 130.]
The CHAIRMAN. We have a supplemental estimate which contains
a statement of the amounts required for the acquisition of sites, com-
mencement, continuation, and completion of each of the several pub-
lic buildings upon which work is contemplated to be done up to
June 30, 1916?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, Mr. Chairman; in other words, from March
4, 1915, to June 30, 1916. This is a 16-month estimate. . .
The CHAIRMAN. It aggregates $12,184,800?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
ORDER OF CONSTRUCTION.—ARKADELPHIA, ARK. ; FORDYCE, ARK. ; AND
WILLOW, CAL.—DONATION OF PLANs.
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any change in the policy of the
department of taking these buildings up according to the method
heretofore pursued'
Mr. WENDEROTH. There has not only been no change, but we are
adhering to the former method more strictly than in the past.
120 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
STATUS OF PUBLIC BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTION,
| Circular letter No. 16.)
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
OFFICE OF THE SUPERVISING ARCHITECT,
Washington, D. C., July 1, 1914.
Many requests are received for the immediate preparation of plans, etc., for
particular Federal buildings which have been authorized by existing legislation,
irrespective Of the date of such authorization. The following statement of
the present status of public-building work is issued for the information of all
QOncelºned : -
Beginning with 1902, it has been the policy of Congress to authorize public
buildings by what are known as omnibus acts, each act including a great
many Separate projects. In addition, special acts are passed from time to time
providing for individual projects, increases in the limits of cost of projects
previously authorized, etc. The onnibus act of 1902 was followed by similar
acts in 1903, 1906, 1908, 1910, and 1913.
It is the present policy to place under contract for construction all buildings,
Ol' extensions to buildings, authorized in any one omnibus act before begin-
ning plans for projects authorized by a subsequent act. It is also the present
practice to prepare the plans for all buildings, or projects, authorized in any
given act in the Order of the dates upon which the titles to the sites therefor
were vested in the United States. -
TO determine the precise Order in which the plans for the various buildings
Shall receive attention the following procedure is followed : The buildings
authorized in any one act are first divided into groups according to the priority
Of the acts in which their sites were authorized. All buildings in each such act-
group are further arranged in the Order of the dates of the acquisition of their
Sites, the earliest date first. For instance, the 1913 act authorizes buildings
upon sites which had been authorized in the act of 1908, in the act of 1910, and
in the act of 1913. It is intended that the buildings so authorized in 1913 to
be erected upon sites authorized in 190S shall first be placed under contract.
These will be followed by buildings authorized in 1913 to be constructed upon
sites authorized in 1910. Then the buildings authorized in 1913 to be built
upon sites also authorized in 1913 will take their respective turns for atten-
tion.
Extensions are usually all thorized to be erected upon land already owned by
the United States. While extension projects are included With the buildings
authorized in a particular act, discretion is exercised in determining the Order
in which extensions shall be placed under contract for construction, dependillg
upon the urgency of the need for the improvement.
The output of plans by the Supervising Architect’s Office is governed by the
extent of the technical force (designers, draftsmen, computers, superintendents,
etc.) which the appropriations given by Congress permit the department to
employ.
''. this date the Office of the Supervising Architect has on its books. Waiting
to be placed under contract, approximately $38,500,000 worth of authorizations
for new buildings and extensions, exclusive of the value of the land. This
includes the new buildings and extensions in the act of 1913. This Office is
placing buildings and extensions under contract at the rate of about $7,000,000
annually, so that at the present rate of progress the last of the buildings
authorized in the act of 1913 will not have been placed under contract until
about the beginning of the calendar year 1920. It will not be until after the
Hatter date that it will be possible for the Supervising Architect to place. under
contract any buildings contained in any act or acts which may be passed in the
meantime. &
The current program, made up of the remaining projects which were author-
ized prior to the 1913 act, includes about one year's work from this date. Work
upon the plans for buildings authorized in the act of 1913 will therefore not com-
mence until about July 1, 1915. The 1913 act contains the following authoriza-
tions:
New buildings–––––––––––––––––––––––––––-------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 304
Extensions to existing buildings–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 23
Total projects----- & 327
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 121
The program Of Work contained in the act of 1913 has not been laid out as
yet. Therefore it is impossible to state even approximately the time when any
building authorized in that act will be either advertised for bids or placed
tlinder COntract. ë -
If a subsequent act increases the limit of cost or otherwise modifies prior
legislation for a building or extension before that project is reached in turn,
the position of the project in the program of work is not affected thereby. If
a project is Set aside when its turn is reached in order to await action upon
a proposed increase in the limit of cost or for any other reason, it is taken up
whenever “released ” in as near its Original position as the condition of the
work generally may render possible. -
No consideration can be given to Suggestions that any one project is entitled
to any more consideration than another, and requests that buildings be advanced
out of their order must be uniformly declined. -
For the information of those not familiar with legislative terminology, it
may be stated that an “authorization ” is, as it implies, merely authority to
acquire a site, erect a building, etc., within the limit of cost stated, and is not
an actual “appropriation ” Of money Out of the Treasury. Appropriations are
made by Congress on the basis of estimates Submitted by the Secretary Of the
Treasury. These appropriations are carried in one or the other of the annual
supply acts and are intended to be only sufficient to carry forward the build-
ing program for the fiscal year to which the acts apply. “Appropriations” are
made on account of the limits of Cost fixed by the “ authorization '' and are
not extensions of these limits. All appropriations for sites, buildings, exten-
sions, etc., are available until expended, unless repealed by act Of CongreSS,
and are not automatically returned to the Treasury if not expended before the
expiration of the fiscal year.
The publig buildings act of 1913 authorized the Treasury Department to
acquire sites, erect buildings, construct extensions, etc., aggregating a total
cost of nearly $42,000,000, but did not actually appropriate one cent toward
the consummation of any of these projectS.
-- O. WENDEROTH,
Supervising Architect.
Appl’Oved.
BYRON R. NEWTON,
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.
The CHAIRMAN. Are there in these estimates any buildings for
which appropriations have not yet been made which are taken out of
their order? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. There are, I think, three, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Please tell us about those three. I mean build-
ings proposed to be advanced at this time—not previously advanced.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Three, Mr. Chairman. Arkadelphia, Ark. ; For-
dyce, Ark. ; and Willow, Cal. -
The CHAIRMAN. Take the first one; the limit of cost is $55,000
and nothing has been appropriated. *
Mr. WENDEROTH. In these three cases suggestions have been made
to the department that the citizens or others will employ architects
at their own expense, have the plans prepared, and donate them to
the Treasury Department so there will be no cost to the Treasury
Department or the Office of the Supervising Architect in their
preparation.
Mr. NEwton. And in the case of Willow, Cal., the site also was
donated?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; the site also was donated.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you accept those plans without specific
authority?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; it has been done in two cases.
The CHAIRMAN. When?
Mr. WENDEROTH, I can say three cases. The first was Canan-
daigua, N. Y.
122 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. When was that?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That was before I was appointed supervising
architect—in 1911 or early in 1912. º
The CHAIRMAN. That was under the Tarsney Act.”
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; it was a donation of plans. The second
was Bristol, Pa., and the third case is the Bureau of Mines, in
Pittsburgh.
The CHAIRMAN. That was by authority.
Mr. WENDEROTH. You are doubtless correct. That was probably
in accordance with the supplemental act which gave the Secretary
of the Treasury authority to accept donations. t?
The CHAIRMAN. There is a statute which prohibits that—prohibits
the acceptance of voluntary services?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you avoid that?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We do not recognize the architect; we have
nothing to do with him. He furnishes the services to whoever pays
him, and we accept the result of the services. The matter was sub-
mitted to the Solicitor of the Treasury. I have not his opinion here,
but I can obtain it. He went into it very thoroughly and cited pre-
cedents. He said, for instance, that the Secretary of the Treasury
could accept a donation of a painting. I believe I recall his making
that point. In the same manner, the Secretary of the Treasury
could accept a gift of drawings if the Supervising Architect certified
that those drawings were competent and satisfactory drawings and
could be used for the erection of the building. However, we do not
recognize the architect, his name does not appear, we have no rela-
tions whatever with him, and merely accept the donation of the plans.
Mr. NEWTON. In other words, the citizens of the locality employ
the architect and they submit plans for the approval of the Super-
vising Architect. * º
The CHAIRMAN. “Nor shall any department or any officer of the
Government accept voluntary service for the Government or employ
personal service in excess of that authorized by law, except in case
of sudden emergency,” etc. -
It has been held that acceptance of plans under these circumstances
would not come within that inhibition ? º p
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. We were very careful to obtain the
opinion of the Solicitor of the Treasury.
A copy of an Opinion of the Solicitor relating to donations follows and boars
date of October 17, 1913. It refers to the plans for the laboratories of the
Bureau of Mines in Pittsburgh, as well as to certain plans for furniture which
the architects of the New York post office desired to donate. The inquiry re-
garding the Bureau of Mines was made before the supplemental legislation
regarding that project, which gave the Secretary of the Treasury authority to
accept certain donations, was approved. tº.
I.)].PARTM ICNT OF JUSTICE,
OFJPI ("). OF THE SOLICITOR OF THE TREASURY,
Washington, D. C., October 17, 1913.
The SECRETARY OF THIJE TREASURY.
SIR : It appears from a letter to this office from Assistant Secretary Newtou,
dated the 15th instant, that the State of Pennsylvania Contemplates donating to
the United States the plans and specifications for the erection of the Bureau
of Mines building in the city of Pittsburgh, Pa., appropriated for in the omnibus
public buildings act of March 4, 1913; and that the architects who furnished
the plans for the new post-office building in the city of New York desire to
donate to the Government drawings and specifications for the furniture of
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. J.23
certain portions of that building, such drawings and specifications not being
included in their contract as architects for the building. My opinion is desired
upon the question whether or not the proposed donations are to be regarded as
“Voluntary Services” which Government officers are prohibited from accepting
by Section 3679 of the Revised Statutes as amended by the act of February 27,
1906 (34 Stats., 48), which reads as follows:
“SEC. 3679. No executive department or other Government establishment shall
expend in any one fiscal year any sum in excess of appropriations made by
CongreSS for that fiscal year, or involve the Government in any contract or
Other obligation for the future payment of money in excess of such appropria-
tions, unless Such contract or obligation is authorized by law. Nor shall any
department Or any officer of the Government accept voluntary service for the
Government or employ personal service in excess of that authorized by law,
except in cases of Sudden emergency involving the loss of human life or destruc-
tion of property.”
It is Settled law that the United States may take property by devise or gift,
(39 Cyclopedia of Law, .729; Dickson v. United States, 125 Mass., 311; United
States v. Fox, 94 U. S., 315; United States v. Perkins, 163 U. S., 625.)
I do not think that the statute above cited was intended to interfere with
this rule, or was founded upon any idea that it is incompatible with the dignity
of the Government or with public policy that the United States should accept
gifts of property. The object of the act was to break up any tendency on the
part of executive officers to have work done in excess of appropriations by
holding out to employees or contractors the prospect of their being compensated
therefor in the future by the Government, or to discourage any tendency on
the part of persons to render Services in the absence of any or an insufficient
appropriation therefor, in the hope or expectation of obtaining an allowance for
such services, or of making such services the basis of a claim against the
GOvernment in the future. NO One, I think, would COntend that the abovg
statute would make it unlawful for the department to accept from the State,
of Pennsylvania or the city of Pittsburgh a gift of the site of the proposed
building were any such gift contemplated by them. I can see no difference, so
far as the application of the Statute is concerned. between such a gift and a
gift of the plans and specifications for the erection of the building.
And if the architects for the New York post office should desire to present to
the Government a painting to be hung in some one of the rooms or halls of that
, building, I do not think that the right of the department to accept the painting
could be questioned on the ground that such act would be within the meaning
of the prohibition of the statute as the acceptance of a “voluntary service.”
If their donation of a painting could be lawfully accepted by the department,
I see no reason why it would be unlawful for the department to accept their
donation of plans and drawings for the furniture. All the beneficial purposes
of the statute will, in my Opinion, be accomplished without applying it to
cases of the killd now undel' COnsideration.
For the foregoing reasons I have to advise you that the acceptance of the
plans, specifications, and drawings in the two instances mentioned would not,
in my opinion, be within the prohibition of the statute mentioned, provided
that the delivery of the plans, etc., to the Government be accompanied by a
Ietter or other writing, signed by the donors, in which the fact of the donation
is clearly and unequivocally expressed.
The views herein expressed are in consonance with opinions furnished you
by this office under date of January 14, 1911, and May 26, 1913.
Respectfully,
W. T. THOMPson, Solicitor.
The CHAIRMAN. Because of the fact that the plans will be do-
nated and the Supervising Architect's Office for that reason will not
be engaged on those plans it is proposed to advance these buildings?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; for that reason. I might add that if
the plans are not forthcoming, or, when they are submitted, if the
Supervising Architect is not able to certify to the Secretary that
they are satisfactory plans, these buildings must then drop back
to whatever their place is on the program, any appropriation being
made to be held until they are reached in their regular order.
The CHAIRMAN. These are the only three buildings, and they are
all in the same category?
124 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In every other case they are taken in the order
of the number assigned when the site is actually acquired?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; we have the program very carefully
laid out.
AMoUNT TO BE APPROPRIATED FOR 1916 FOR BUILDINGS PREVIOUSLY AU-
TITORIZED BUT NOT IN COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
[See p. 116.]
The CIIAIRMAN. There are a number of buildings authorized for
which no estimate is submitted?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. tº
The CHAIRMAN. If appropriations were made for those buildings,
would it be possible to utilize them during that period? t
Mr. WENDEROTH. Not without disrupting our program and making
a good deal of trouble for us. -
The CHAIRMAN. You have asked for all the money you could pos-
sibly use on the buildings during that period?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. The estimates include projects on
which we intend to actually commence work and other small amounts
for the projects in the second year from now, for which we require
money to provide for surveys and test pits. g
The CHAIRMAN. How many buildings are there in this list upon
which no work has been commenced and no contract let?
Mr. WENDEROTII. It would be necessary for me to count the num-
ber. I have a statement of the amount involved.
The CHAIRMAN. In what?
Mr. WENDEROTII. In this estimate. For buildings only where
nothing has been previously appropriated and on which we intend
to commence work there is included $1,329,000 out of the total of
$12,184,800. {
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any suggestion of work being sus-
pended on those buildings because of the condition of the Treasury?
Mr. NEwTON. No; nothing beyond what was said here at the hear-
ing the other day. There has been no definite move in that direction
that I am aware of. There has not been any suggestion of that sort
at the department.
The CHAIRMAN. That was mere bookkeeping?
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And the same amount of money would be ex-
pended under either program *
Mr. WENDEROTII. In addition to the $1,329,000 there is an item of
$1,281,000 for extensions, so that of the total of a little over $12,-
000,000, $2,610,000 is for commencing work on extensions and new
buildings on account of which nothing has been previously appro-
priated, while the balance of $9,500,000 is for continuing on other
projects, for the acquisition of sites, for rents, etc.
The CHAIRMAN. Continuing work which is now under construc-
tion? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; or additional appropriations for proj-
ects to be placed under contract for which we have already had only
a small amount.
SUN DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 125
The CHAIRMAN. Please prepare a list of the items involved in these
two sums and send it to us.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The following lists show the projects on account of which the first estimates
for appropriations are submitted for consideration in connection with the
Sundry civil bill for the fiscal year 1916. Item No. 7 refers to new buildings
and lists 79 projects. Item No. 8 refers to extensions and lists 16 projects.
Whenever the first estimate of an appropriation on account of a special au.
thorzation is Submitted it is contemplated that a portion of the expenditure
will be made for the survey of the site, any test borings which might be found
necessary, and similar preliminary expenses that are incidental to the execution
of the project and are properly chargeable to its limit of cost. In this list the
amounts submitted run from $1,000 up. The estimate of $1,000 is intended to
COver the cost of the Survey, etc., for projects, the preparation of the sketches
for which will not be reached until near the close of the fiscal year 1916. For
the projects for which larger amounts are submitted the preparation of the
Sketches will be commenced at various times following the passage of the
sundry civil act. Therefore the amounts are needed not only for the preparation
of the surveys, for test pits and borings, but also toward the commencement of
the construction.
These two items represent the program upon which the Office of the Super-
vising Architect will commence the preparation of working drawings about
July 1, 1915. The preparation of the sketches, however, will be commenced
Several months before that date. If these appropriations are not made, then
the Office of the Supervising Architect will be occupied solely with the continua-
tion and completion of projects now under way or for which appropriations
have already been made. If it will be impossible to commence any new work,
then it will be necessary to commence cutting down the force in the Office of the
Supervising Architect shortly after the passage of the sundry civil act for the
fiscal year 1916.
Analysis of estimates for 1916.
1. For sites contracted for--------------------------------------- $1, 000
2. For sites not contracted for---------------------------------- 5, 000
3. For sites and commencement of buildings, sites contracted for--- 34, 700
4. For sites and commencement of buildings, Sites not COntracted for- 30, 300
5. Continuing buildings, extensions and Special repairs, actually un-
der contract Dec. 1, 1914----------------------------------- 2, 300, 500
6. Continuing of above, not under contract Dec. 1, 1914, but for
& which money was appropriated in part in prior acts--------- 6, 987, 300
7. Buildings only, where nothing has been previously .
appropriated ––––––––––––– ____ $1,329, 000
8. Extensions only, where nothing has been previously
appropriated --- sºme tº sº sºme tºms º ºsº ºme º ºs ºsm º ºs º-' ºs- 1, 281, 000
—— 2, 610, 000
9. Submitted items not previously authorized (including $96,500 for
“rents of temporary quarters”)----------------------------- 216,000
Total----------------------------------------------------- 12, 184, 800
A mºlysis of item, No. 7.


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t ºv * 9' for build. | Estimate
Location. !"itle. Cost, for ing, ioint for 1916
> building. § 19. OT 1910.
authoriza-
tion.
Aberdeen, Wash. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office and Courthouse. $112,500 |. . . . . . . . . . . . $1,000
Alliance, Nebr. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l’ost office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Anoka, Minn...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [..... do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Antigo, Wis....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------- 70,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Arkadelphia, Ark. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000 . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000
Ashland, lºy... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
Attloboro, Mass. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
Attrora, Nebr. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * ~ * * * * 50,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Bakersfield, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 135,000 ! . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
126
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Analysis of item No. 7–Continued.

Total number of items, 79.
§
Limit of ºvallaº!”
• rins - for build- || Estimate
Location. Title. i. #. ing, j oint for 1916.
* | authoriza-
tion.
Barnesville, Ga. ----................... Post office . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tºº $50,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . $1,000
Bartow, Fla.---------------------------|----- do-------------------- 50,000 . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Belton, Tex----------------------------|----- do-------------------- 55,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Buffalo, Wyo--------------------------|----- do-------------------- 62,500 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Burlington, N.C.--...-----------------|----- do-------------------- 65,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Caribou, Me----------------------------|----- do-------------------- 50,000 |... . . . . . . . . . ,000
Chadron, Nebr.------------------------|-----do-------------------- 110,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Čharles &ity, fowa.....................|... do-------------------- 0,000 |..... . . . . . . . . 1,000
Qolumbia, S. Q.------------------------|----- do-------------------- 265,000 |........ ---. 1,000
East Orange, N. J....... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do-------------------- 125,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Ellensburg, Wash........................... do-------------------- 75,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Elyria, Ohio...........................l..... do-------------------- 100,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 20,000
Falls City, Nebr.................. -----|..... do-------------------- ,000 |............ 10,000
Fordyce, Ark--------------------------|----- do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 50,000
Globe, Ariz. . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Post office and Courthouse. 100,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Greenwich, Conn....................... Post office................. ,000 |............ 50,000
Grinnell, Iowa................ ---------|----- do-------------------- 90,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 1,00
Hackensack, N. J. .....................l..... do-------------------- 100,000 -...----.... 1,000
Hornell. N. Y..................--------...-- do-------------------- 85,000 |............ 30,000
Humboldt, Tenn............................ do-------------------- 50,000 |............ ,000
Huntington, Ind-----------------------|----- do-------------------- 95,000 |............ 10,000
Jasper, Ala-----------------------------|----- do-------------------. 100,000 |............ 1,000
Kalispell, Mont-----.............. tº sº e º e s e e s - do-------------------- 100,000 |............ 15,000
fittie fails, Minn......I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I. do-------------------- 65,000 |............ 10,000
Logan, Ohio. --------------------------|----- do-------------------- 60,000 |............ 20,000
Madison, Wis. ......................... Pº, Office and court 550,000 |............ 200,000
OUIS0.
Maquoketa, Iowa...................... Post Office........... * * * * * * 50,000 |............ 1,000
Marion. S. 6..........I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.T. do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 1,000
Maryville, Tenn.-----------------------|----- do-------------------- 60,000 |............ 10,000
McComb, Miss------...................l..... do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 1,000
Morriji, Wis......................... -----do-------------------- 5,000 |............ 35,000
Middletown, Conn.....................l..... do-------------------- 140,000 |............ 1,000
Middletown, Ohio........................... do-------------------- 100,000 |............ 50,000
Minden, La-3::------------------------|----- do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 20,000
Montevideo, Minn.-----...-...--------|... --do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 1,000
Nacogdoches, Tex.---------------------|, ...-do-------------------. 55,000 |............ 20,000
Naugatuck, Conn. .................----|..... do-------------------- 80,000 |............ 25,000
Navasota, Tex................ ---------|----- do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 15,000
Neenah, Wis...I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I. --do-------------------- 80,000 | . . . . . . . . * & e e ,000
New Braunfels, Tex....................|..... do-------------------- 50,000 |............ 20,000
Newport, R. I. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Fº office and custom- |............ $300,000 150,000
- - Y OUIS6.
Pulaski, Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post Office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Redfield, S. Dak.......................l..... do-------------------- 65,000 |............ 1,000
Ridgway, Pa......... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - do-------------------- 80,000 |............ 25,000
Rockville, Conn............ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do-------------------- 55,000 |............ 1,000
Roseburg, Oreg. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .l... -- do-------------------- 100,000 |............ 1,000
Rumford, Me..........................]-...- do-------------------. 50,000 |... . . . . . . . . . 1,000
St. Louis, Mo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Subtreasury. ... . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
Salatmanca, N.Y.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
Sandusky, Qhio. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... --do---. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 80,000
Savanna, Ill..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Seymour, Conn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Shelby, N. C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Shelbyville, Ky. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Sidney, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -do-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
South Bethlehem, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Stamford, TeX. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Tarentum, Pa... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Taylorville, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Titusville, Pa. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -do-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
Valley City, N. Dak.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . y
Vancouver, Wash. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Van Wert, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Qº0 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
Washington, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60,000 . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Washington, Iowa. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-----. . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - 80,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Waterloo, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -00---------. . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
Waynesville, N. C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Wenatchee, Wash. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Williamson, W. Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Willow, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -do-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000 75,000
Total.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,329,000
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 127
Analysis of item, No. 8.
EXTENSIONS.
ğ.
l - Limit of 8,V8l. 1 ap. 0 -
Location, l ‘l’iſlo. Cost for º º: º
building. tº OT 1916.
l authoriza-
! tion.
- - - - - - - ----> 1 - - -------------e.
Alexandria, Là... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office and courthouse. $65,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . $40,000
Chattanooga, Tenn.......................... do--------------------- 55,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
East St. Louis, Ill... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... do--------------------- 240,000 . . . . . . . . . . . . 95,000
Jºvansville, Ind. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cºhouse and post 150,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000
OTIIC0.
Hagerstown, Md. . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
Huntington, W. Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office and courthouse. 225,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Kansas City, Mo... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - -ClO--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 500,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Kirksville, Mo......................... Post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
Martinsburg, W. Va. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... --do--------------------- 20,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
Missoula, Mont----..................... Post, office and courthouse. 125,000 | . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
Moberly, Mo... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
Muskegon, Mich. . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - * * * * * * Pº, office and rºustom- . . . . . . . . . . . . $65,000 30,000
Ol]SO.
Nashville, Tenn....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...|..... do--------------------. 400,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Oklahoma City, Okla. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office and Courthouse. 250,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 111,000
Utica, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office, customhouse, 370,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 180,000
and courthouse.
Winchester, Ky. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Post office... . . . . . . . . - - - - - - 20,000 |. . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
Total.----------------------------|... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .l. - - - - - - - - - - - 1,281,000

Total number of items, 16.
Mr. MoRDELL. I notice that the three buildings which you have
taken out of their order, Arkadelphia, Ark., Fordyce, Ark., and Wil-
low, Cal., are none of them included in the original estimate which
was presented!
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; that was an oversight. We addressed
a letter to the chairman of the Appropriations Committee regarding
it. That was another error. He returned it to us with instructions
to address it to the Speaker of the House, which we did.
Mr. MoRDELL. Those three buildings were not included in the
original estimate?
Mr. WENDEROTH. For the reason that the original estimate was
made up according to the current program and they were overlooked
until the supplemental estimates were prepared. Under date of the
11th we addressed a letter to the chairman of this committee call-
ing his attention to these three buildings. When we prepared the
supplemental estimate we included them in their proper places.
Mr. MoRDELL. These estimates of $1,000 which you make for the
purpose of enabling you to make the survey and examinations pre-
liminary to the preparations of plans, if those items were not pro-
vided for you could not go on with the preparation of the plans for
those buildings?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. It would virtually wind up the office.
in the fiscal year 1917.
Mr. MoRDELL. And if they were left out you would not have any-
thing to do?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is correct. We would not have anything
to work on. We could not make the cabinet board sketches on which
the working drawings are based without the surveys.
Mr. MoRDELL. As to the new construction where you have gotten
beyond that period and are asking for sums for construction, the
plans are already prepared, as I understand?
128 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; they will be prepared during the period
for which the estimate is submitted. - -
Mr. MONDELL. Are you asking for sums to be expended within the
next fiscal year for the actual construction of buildings where you
have not the plans now prepared?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. This estimate is for a 16 months’
period.
Mr. MoR DELL. You have made some progress on the plans in those
cases? • ‘
Mr. WENDEROTH. Of course, we are working on a continuous pro-
gram. We have an output of, say, 70 buildings a year. In 16 months
We will place under contract, say, about 100 buildings. For some of
these the sketches are now in the course of preparation; for others
the plans are being developed; for others the plans are approaching
completion, but for a great many the plans, nor even the sketches, will
not be commenced until after this appropriation is available. This
is for 16 months, and during that time we will commence and
complete the plans for quite a number of buildings, place them under
contract, and make expenditures. Certain of these items which
are for more than a thousand dollars also include the cost of the
surveys and the test pits, because they are projects which will shortly
be taken up. During the 16-month period we can complete the en-
tire project, or virtually complete it. This includes the surveys, the
preparation of sketches, plans, and specifications, placing the work
under contract, and the expenditure of a considerable portion of the
appropriation. All of these appropriations for public building work
are on the basis of being available on the 4th day of March next, and
a 16-month period means that we will turn out more Work than dur-
ing the alternate period of eight months.
Mr. MoRDELL. The small items are necessary to enable you to do
anything beyond the acquisition of the sites?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. For the new projects that are reached
so near the end of the 16-month period we only need the $1,000 for
the survey, etc. If we do not obtain at least that amount in each case
we will have nothing to work on during the fiscal year 1917.
ARRADELPHIA, ARK., PUBLIC BUILDING.
- [See pp. 40, 119.] * -
The CHAIRMAN. Take the case of Arkadelphia, Ark. In 1910 a site
for $5,000 was authorized, and in 1913 the building at $55,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, Mr. Chairman. º
The CHAIRMAN. In 1910 the population was 2,745, and in 1913 the
ross postal receipts were $12,322.19; the money-order receipts,
§: 27; and postal savings receipts, $658. -
FORDYCE, ARK., PUBLIC BUILDING.
[See pp. 53, 119.]
In the case of Fordyce, Ark., the site was authorized in 1910.
$5,000, and the building in 1913, $50,000. The population in 1910
was 2,794. The gross postal receipts in 1913 were $9,205.59; money-
order receipts, $29,483.12; and postal savings receipts, $104.
WILLow, CAL., PUBLIC BUILDING.
- [See pp. 90, 119.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next is for Willow, Cal., for site and build-
ing, authorized in 1913 at cost of $75,000. The population in 1910
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 129
was 1,139; the gross postal receipts for 1913 were $13,113.37; the
money-order receipts for 1913 were $58,597.70; and the postal sav-
ings receipts for 1913 were $1,224. - -
At what do you figure the cost of the upkeep and operation of a
$75,000 building?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. I can not state that offhand, but I have looked
into that matter somewhat on the basis of $50,000 buildings. I
recall the figures quite distinctly. Assuming an interest on the
total investment, allowing for depreciation on the building and on
the equipment, and adding the annual cost of janitor service, janitor
Supplies, and repairs, the annual carrying charge is about 10 per
Cent. .
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know what we are paying for facilities,
rent, heat, and light, at these three different towns?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We probably had it at the time we made the
estimate for the committee several years ago. -
The CHAIRMAN. Can you furnish that information for 1913 and
send it to us for use in this connection?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. We can obtain a statement of the
rents, but, of course, we know nothing of the character of the facil-
ities obtained for those rentals, as that is under another department.
JDo you want that information for 1913?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. NEwTON. Rent, heat, water, and light?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; all the facilities.
Mr. MoRDELL. The part that the Government pays for.
The CHAIRMAN. You can get that information for us?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
An inquiry develops the fact that at Arkadelphia and Fordyce, Ark., only
the Post Office Department is occupying rented quarters. At Willow, Cal., both
the Post Office Department and the Agricultural Department occupy such
quarters. The departments referred to state that at these places; for the fiscal
year 1913, the rents given were paid, the amounts including heat, light, and
janitor Service : 3.
Arkadelphia, Ark. (post Office Only) $460
Fordyce, Ark. (post office only) - :- 736
Willow, Cal. (post office) ; $609
Forest Service -------------------------------------- ----------- 600
- — 1, 209
The CHAIRMAN. What does that 10 per cent include?
Mr. WENDEROTH, I allow 3 per cent interest on the total invest-
ment in land, building, and equipment, and 5 per cent deprecia-
tion
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). That is interest? -
Mr. WENDEROTII. The 3 per cent is interest. I also allow 5 per cent
depreciation on the building, 5 per cent depreciation on the equip-
ment, and then add the cost of the janitor Service, heat, light, and
water, janitors’ supplies and repairs.
The CHAIRMAN. At 2 per cent?
Mr. WENDEROTHI. No, sir; the actual annual cost of the latter items
as the books show and not a percentage. I investigated these costs
for five buildings in different sections of the country and averaged
the cost for one year, assuming that as the permanent charge. The
72785—15—9
i80 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
average maintenance charge was $1,700, of which $960 was for the
janitor Service, while the other things made up the balance. I
allowed $350 for annual repairs and the physical upkeep of the
property
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How much do you get for that?
You get a good deal more than $350 from us.
Mr. WENDEROTH. We do not average more than that on a $50,000
building, and it only includes the physical upkeep of the property.
It does not allow for changes in partitions, storm doors, etc. Eight
hundred buildings, at $350 each, would be about $300,000. The
balance goes into the larger buildings, for changes in partitions,
additional facilities, for the Parcels Post Service, etc. -
REVISIED ESTIMATES.
[See p. 119.]
The CHAIRMAN. You have in here some special items. Are there
any buildings included in this revised estimate, aggregating $12,-
000,000, which were not contemplated or included in the modified
method of doing the work? *
Mr. WENDEROTH. There were five, Mr. Chairman, that were over-
looked, concerning which we addressed a letter to you under date
of December 11. You returned it to us calling our attention to the
fact that such communications must be addressed to the Speaker.
Instead of doing that, however, we included these five items in the
revised estimates.
The CHAIRMAN. If these revised estimates had not been sub-
mitted, they would have come in the regular way?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. They include Arkadelphia, Fordyce,
Willow, and two extensions that we overlooked—one at Hagerstown,
Md., and the other at Martinsburg, W. Va. *:
The CHAIRMAN. Have you included in these estimates all exten-
sions, regardless of the time when they were authorized?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; because We have placed all of our ex-
tensions at the head of the program of the 1913 act, on which we
will commence next year. We can not list the extensions according
to the date of the acquisition of the original sites. We assume that
these extensions are authorized because they are urgently needed,
and we place them near the head of the list.
RENT OF TEMPORARY QUARTERS.
[See p. 131.]
The CHAIRMAN. In addition, there are special items running all
through the estimates. º
Mr. WENDEROTH. They appear more clearly in the committee
proof of the original estimate, because they are printed in italics.
They are difficult to locate in the proof of the revised estimates.
The CHAIRMAN. They are largely rental items?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 131.
EVANSVILLE, IND., RENT OF QUARTERs.
[See p. 52.]
The CHAIRMAN. The first is: “Evansville, Ind., rent of buildings:
For rent of temporary quarters for the accommodation of Govern-
ment officials and moving expenses incident thereto, $8,000.”
One of the things that it is difficult to explain is how you arrive
at $8,000, for instance, as the sum required for moving expenses
and rent of temporary. quarters. What period does that cover?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We do not know. It is purely a guess. We
communicate with the local postmaster and ask him to give us any
information he can obtain regarding the cost of possible rented
quarters. Then We add to that an arbitrary sum for the changes.
We do not know when we will actually place the work under con-
tract, where we will obtain the quarters, or how extensive the changes
in them must be. We pay for such changes in the temporary rented
quarters as are necessary for carrying on the public business during
the time we occupy them. We pay for everything that is done to
adapt the building to our special needs.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that found to be cheaper than to rent the
quarters and have the owner to make the changes?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The owner does actually make the changes, re-
ducing their cost to a rental basis. What I mean is this: The first
year’s rent we pay includes the cost of making all of these changes
for us. We really agree on the second year’s rent and add to that
for the first year whatever is the cost of the changes that will be
necessary. The cost of these changes, therefore, are included in the
first year’s rent. When we submit the estimates we do not know
where we will obtain the temporary quarters and we do not know
what the changes will cost as a part of the first year’s rent. If it is
a small town we allow a smaller sum, and if it is a larger town we
allow a larger sum. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is this an extension at Evansville?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
NASHVILLE, TENN., RENT OF QUARTERs.
[See p. 71.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next is Nashville, Tenn., $20,000.
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is the same thing.
The CHAIRMAN. There you run up to $20,000. Is that for an
extension?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is an extension which will be of such a
eharacter that it will move out of the building the courts on the
upper floor, and with them a number of offices, requiring a great dea!
of space. It will probably affect the post office as well.
RENT or TEMPORARY QUARTERs.
[See p. 130.]
Mr. Mon DELL. Before you go to that, in submitting these estimates
for moving expenses you take into consideration, of course, the
extent to which the public officers accommodated must be moved?
132 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. - **
Mr. MoRDELL. You are not required in every case of extension to
move all of the public officers?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Not all of them. Sometimes we can keep them
in rooms in the building by boarding up the rear wall, for instance,
while we are tearing it out.
Mr. MoRDELL. In submitting estimates, you take into considera-
tion the extent of the removals necessary?
Mr. WENDEROTH. As near as we can. Of course the estimates are
submitted before the contracts are let, so we really do not know.
For the first year it is entirely a guess, and I can not possibly sub-
stantiate any of these figures. They are based on our previous ex-
perience, and we guess that about that much will be necessary. The
comptroller has told us that he would consider these rental items in
the same class with building appropriations, and, therefore, any
balance that we are able to save in the first year out of the appro-
priation is available toward the second year’s rent, although these
estimates are assumed to be only sufficient to take us through the
fiscal year 1916. If we need the rented quarters beyond that time,
we must submit further estimates. There is nothing that we can
prove about these figures.
NEW ORLEANs, L.A., POST OFFICE AND COURTHOUSE—MAIL-HANDLING
DEVICES. $
[See p. 73.]
The CHAIRMAN. Mail-handling devices, $25,000.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Under date of November 4 the Postmaster Gen-
eral addressed a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury inclosing a
copy of a report by a post-office inspector, together with a tracing
of the workroom, describing and indicating the location of the
conveyers. He requested that the matter be taken up with your
committee and an appropriation obtained, if possible, for the con-
veyers. We examined the plan and the report of the inspector.
On the basis of our previous experience with mail-handling devices
we reached the conclusion that the outfit which the Post Office De-
partment desired would cost $25,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any information as to whether it is an
advantageous expenditure, or whether the advantages to be ob-
tained would justify it?
Mr. WENDEROTH. There is, to the extent that after having had
two or three years’ experience with mail-handling devices and ap-
pearing to be unable to arrive at any policy with regard to them we
submitted the entire matter to the Post Office Department. We.
asked for a statement and recommendations concerning the build-
ings in which the Post Office Department believed that the installa-
tion of mail-handling devices would operate toward economy and
the efficient conduct of the post-office business. Our estimates are
based on the recommendations of the Post Office Department. As
to any definite figures on the saving in dollars and cents, I can not
give you that. The Post Office Department, in the larger build-
ings, though, is very anxious to obtain mail-handling devices. We
have never had any general authority for them, and, of course, we
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 133
have no annual appropriation available for their installation. Occa-
sionally an authorization by the House Committee on Public Build-
ings and Grounds will make the limit of cost available in a specific
case. Now that the Post Office Department is strongly in favor of
mechanical devices for handling mail, we try to look ahead and
obtain a limit of cost sufficient to cover them. We have also asked
for supplemental authority for installing the devices without any
increase if the limit of cost appeared sufficient. We obtained that
authority recently in the cases of the Denver, Colo., and the New .
Haven, Conn., buildings. In the New Orleans case all of the con-
tracts were let for the completion of the building before the Post
Office Department submitted its recommendation regarding the mail-
handling devices, so that a special appropriation becomes necessary.
I have a letter here, dated June 17, from the Post Office Department.
The CHAIRMAN. What do they say?
Mr. WENDEROTH. They say:
Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of June 10, relative to securing proper
legislation to enable the Post Office Department to install mail-handling devices
in Federal buildings. It is believed that this legislation should apply to post
offices having annual receipts of $500,000 or more located in Federal buildings,
and in any Federal building where two or more floors are to be used in the
receipt and dispatch of mail. It is probable that interior pneumatic-tube
Service would be used only in a few cases, but it is believed that when legis-
lation on this subject is secured it had might as well be included therein, so that
if such service is desirable it will be possible to install it.
Mr. MondELL. When was that building completed?
Mr. WENDEROTH. It is being completed now. We expect to have
it ready for occupancy within a very few months.
PORT HURON, MICH., Post of FICE, LOOKoUTS AND STORAGE AND TOILET
ROOMS.
[See p. 76.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Port Huron, Mich., post office:
For lookout gallery, including the incidental remodeling of the first
floor by the addition of a storage room and toilet room, $3,500.”
How much does a lookout gallery cost?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I have not that information in detail. I have
the report of the post-office inspector, which was forwarded to us
by the Post Office Department, asking us to recommend the appro-
priation.
The following is an itemization of the estimate of $3,500 for lookout gallery,
including the incidental remodeling of the first floor by the addition of a storage
room and toilet :
Lookout gallery, including work incident thereto ___ $2,000
Toilet room for postmaster • * *-* = &ºm sºme ºss amas sº same sº am sº sº ºms, sºme ºs sm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 900
Storage room------------------------------------------------------- 600
Total.--------------------------------------------------------- 3, 500
The CHAIRMAN. The toilet room and storage room ought to be
paid for out of the general repairs items, ought they not? g
Mr. WENDEROTH. They are available. Of course, it becomes com-
plicated for us to have two or three, or, in this case, maybe four,
appropriations involved in an expenditure of less than $4,000. It is
on that account that we need the special appropriation. The remod-
134 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
eling could be paid from the appropriation for repairs and preserva-
tion, but that appropriation is not available for installing the look-
out gallery, although it is available for other items of new construc-
tion. The Comptroller of the Treasury will allow certain of the lat-
ter. Theoretically, the appropriation for repairs and preservation is
only available for repairing and restoring things that already exist.
However, we have paid for certain new items out of that appropria-
tion. The comptroller ruled that as that had been the custom he
would approve such expenditures, but we may not increase the range
of the expenditures. It so happens that lookouts are not in that list
of things. This building had no lookout system.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these lookouts installed upon the recom-
mendation of the Post Office Department?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I do not know how it happened that this build-
ing had no lookout. -
The CHAIRMAN. This post office has no lookout at all?
Mr. WENDEROTII. In this case there has been no lookout provided.
The estimate includes a lookout gallery over the workroom, with a
branch to the basement. There is no lookout there at all. If you
approve a special appropriation for a lookout, then certain of the
other changes would involve charges against the appropriation for
repairs and preservation of public buildings. The additional plumb-
ing required would be a charge against the appropriation for me-
chanical equipment, and if extra light fixtures were required they
would be a charge against the appropriation for furniture. It would
involve charges against four appropriations. We have the greatest
difficulty in persuading contractors to bid under such conditions.
We take a lump-sum bid, but we ask the contractors to state how
much they include for these things separately. They do not know
our reasons for it or our methods. We have great trouble in ob-
taining the submission of these segregated bids in proper form.
Therefore, if we could obtain this as one appropriation it would
simplify matters for us, but we have no other argument to submit
for it.
Mr. MoRDELL. Was this building erected before you were install-
ing lookouts?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; this building was erected before the
days of using lookouts universally. The building was occupied in
the year 1877.
ST. LOUIS, Mo., POST OFFICE—MAIL-HANDLING DEVICES.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask $25,000 for installing additional mail-
handling devices in the St. Louis, Mo., post office. You have
$100,000 now for mail lifts, elevator, additions to the mailing appa-
ratus, and other improvements, and $47,550 for mailing devices.
Now you ask for $25,000 more. #
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. I have a long report here from our
superintendent whom we sent there to make the inspection.
The CHAIRMAN. You have doubled up on it. You have $147,550
already. -
... Mr. wesomori. Can I make a résumé of this and place it in the
record? It is somewhat involved. . -
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The CHAIRMAN. I want to ask you something about it.
Mr. WENDEROTH, I fear I can not answer. I asked for a memo-
Tandum from the office, and this is what I have: “There has been
considerable correspondence relative to this matter between the de-
partment and the Postmaster General. This correspondence can not
be found without a more thorough search than has been possible up
to this time.” So I am not in a position, Mr. Chairman, to ex-
plain that. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Is that a new building? - -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. It has been in commission, I think,
about two years. .
The CHAIRMAN. The St. Louis post office?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. It has been in commission about two
years, I think, Mr. Chairman.
The item refers to additional mail-handling devices for the new post-office
building.
Cost of building______ * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- $1,117, 391. 44
Completed and occupied Oct. 26, 1912; cost per cubic foot______ . 547
Mail-handling apparatus consists of a system of chutes, belt, bucket, and
pick-up conveyors, lifts, platform motors, etc., in sub-basement, basement, and
first story, and was paid for out of funds authorized March 4, 1911 ($100,000),
and March 4, 1913 ($47,550).
March 25, 1912, the Postmaster General was advised that the balance of the
appropriations for changes in the post-office building would not exceed $4,000,
and he was asked to indicate which of certain additions to the mail-handling
apparatus suggested by the postmaster and custodian in a joint report would
appear to be most desirable. Under date of April 12, 1912, the Acting Post-
master General recommended that the balance be expended for an addition to
belt conveyor No. 10–C, at the outside of the mailing platform. This was done,
The authorization of $47,550, contained in the act of March 4, 1913, was
available for a mail lift, elevator, additions to mail apparatus, and other im-
provements. This amount was expended as follows:
Mail-handling apparatus_____ . _____ $14,000. 00
Elevator - - l 9, 383.00
Mailing-platform entrance, etc 4,999. 15
Air Washers ––––––––––––––– 3, 9S7.00
Pointing stonework, etc.— § 1, 935. 50
Extensions to plumbing and heating systems, wire partitions, bronze
gates, floodgates, pullip, etc t 13, 10S. 64
Balance unexpended, as shown by books On Jan. 4, 1915–––––––––––– 46.71
47, 550.00
The new post office in St. Louis is connected with the adjoining terminal rail-
road station by a tunnel, the cost of which was paid out of the limit of cost
for the building. At present the mail is trucked through this tunnel at a cost
of $12,000 a year, as stated by the Post Office Department. The proposed con-
veying apparatus will run through this tunnel and, therefore, is not a further
extension to the existing mail-handling apparatus in the building proper. Its
installation, at an estimated cost of $25,000, will save a considerable portion
Of the present expenditure of $12,000 for trucking the mail, and it is estimated
that it will pay for itself in three years.
Because of the fact that most of the proposed Conveyor is Outside the actual
walls of the building, it is suggested that the wording of the estimate be slightly,
changed, should the committee give favorable consideration to the same. The
following alternate wording is submitted: -
St. Louis, Mo., post office: For mail-conveyer system connecting the new
post-office building with the adjacent railroad station, including any
necessary extension of the system into the railroad building and the
post-office building, together with all work incidental thereto-------- $25,000
136 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. MoRDELL. The installation of these devices on an extensive
scale, such as is proposed in a case of this kind, involves considerable
tearing out and remodeling of the interior, does it not?
Mr. WENDEROTH. It sometimes does. The previous method has
been for the Supervising Architect to complete the building and then
the Post Office Department would obtain an appropriation for the
devices. That method of installing the devices after the building
was completed involved a great deal of tearing out.
Mr. MoRDELL. Are you handling your new buildings by building
the devices in, or constructing your interiors so that the devices can
be put in without making changes? .
Mr. WENDEROTH. We intend to do that. It happens that we have
not taken up the plans for any of these larger buildings since the
Post Office Department has adopted the policy of recommending
mail-handling devices for them, but we certainly should do that.
The CHAIRMAN. These devices have been perfected recently, have
they not?
Mr. WENDEROTH. They are very much more effective now, Mr.
Chairman; yes, sir. .
Mr. MoRDELL. I suppose they are still more or less experimental,
are they not?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. I mean as to the form of the device.
Mr. WENDEROTH. I think not. I thought you meant perhaps it
was more or less experimental as to their efficiency in the Postal
Service, and I think their usefulness has been demonstrated. They
are a combination of these little cash carriers you see in department
stores for the light matter and ore conveyors or freight conveyors
that are used in warehouses for the heavy matter.
Mr. MoRDELL. If the department has pretty clearly demonstrated
the character of the device they desire, should not those devices in
the future be installed in connection with construction? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Absolutely. We intend to make a general rec-
ommendation to the House Committee on Public Buildings and
Grounds that mail-handling devices should be installed in the build-
ing and paid for out of the limit of cost. This could be subject to
whatever restriction the committee might care to place. For in-
stance, the authority could be limited to buildings in which the re-
ceipts are $500,000 or over, or it could be left to the discretion of the
Secretary, whichever should be preferred. These devices should cer-
tainly be designed into the building and the building should be
planned to fit them. If a girder hangs down and the apparatus must
dip below it, there is that much more complication. Sometimes in a
completed building it is virtually impossible to cut out the girder
without vast expense. These devices should be classed as fixtures
the same as post-office screens or anything else that is built in, such
as elevators or other conveying apparatus.
Mr. MondBI.L. And you are now planning your new buildings to
that end?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We will in connection with the larger new build-
ings we take up, if we are given the necessary authority. There
seems to be no question as to the efficiency of the mechanical handling
of mail. ſº *
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 137
BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING (NEw), SIDEWALíºs AND CURBs.
[See pp. 87, 426.]
The CHAIRMAN. “Washington, D. C., Bureau of Engraving and
Printing (new) : For sidewalks, curbs, etc., $9,000.”
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is an item we have submitted three or four
times, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is this to go?
Mr. WENDROTH. It is on the side of the bureau toward the White
Lot, on the west side.
The CHAIRMAN. Between the new building and the old building?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; toward the west; in front of the long
colonnade of the new building.
Mr. MoRDELL. What have they there now?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The contract included patching up what side-
walks were there. Mr. Ralph believes that a new sidewalk should
be laid. We have submitted the item several times.
The CHAIRMAN. No one ever goes down that side of the building?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I do not know, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they not all go in and out of the other side?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. I think there is some patching on the other side,
too.
The CHAIRMAN. What are you to do with this $9,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH.. I find here this memorandum, Mr. Chairman:
This item was originally submitted (in amount, $8,159) to Congress upon
recommendation by the Director of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing
in department letter of February 2, 1914 (H. Doc. No. 692).
IReference thereto is made in the hearings of the deficiency bill on pages 76
and 123. It was taken up with the Senate as a regular estimate On account Of
the public building service in department letter of March 4, 1914, but did not
receive COnSideration. -
In letter to Speaker of April 13, 1914 (H. Doc. No. 904), it was stated that
the amount of the estimate previously made was not believed to be sufficient
and that $9,000 was therefore recommended.
The commissioners proposed to lay the sidewalks and curb on Fourteenth
Street from old bureau to D Street as follows: -
1,64S linear feet sidewalk, at $1 per foot; 690 feet new curbing, at $1.50
per foot; reset balance of curbing to D Street, at 30 cents per foot;
total bid including 5 per cent profit –––––––––––––––––––––––––– $3, 159
The Department of Public Buildings and Grounds offer lump sum bid -
for sidewalk on Fifteenth Street and on D Street Of_--------------- 5,000
Total of the two bids----------------------------------------- 8, 159
These estimates are not guaranteed; they age subject to revision
when the work is completed and the cost checked. We therefore
submitted the amount in the sum of $9,000. Part of it is new side-
walk; part of it is patching and eking out the existing sidewalk;
and part of it is new curbing.
BUTLER BUILDING, ADDITIONAL STORY AND SPECIAL REPAIRs.
[See p. 88.]
The CHAIRMAN. “Washington, D.C., Butler Building: For addi-
tional story to the one-story annex to the Butler Building, including
special repairs, $7,000.”
138 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Is that the place where they want to build a library?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I think so.
The CHAIRMAN. Out of the old storehouse?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The red brick extension toward Mr. Woods's
laboratory. The Public Health Service desires a second story on it.
The CHAIRMAN. Which is the place to be utilized, the first story
or the second story?
Mr. WENDEROTH. They desire a second story, new floors in the first
story, and whatever other small repairing is necessary so they may
use the entire building for library and other purposes.
The CHAIRMAN. My recollection of that place is that there is only
one little window. *
Mr. WENDEROTEI. In the first story there are three half-round win-
dows on B Street. &
Mr. MoRDELL. My recollection is they wanted to use the first floor
as a board room or meeting room and put on an additional story to
use for offices. If that building is going to be utilized to any good
purpose eventually it will be necessary to do something to it and
make some changes. They use it now largely for a storehouse.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you ever been inside of that building?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. &
The CHAIRMAN. Who made this estimate?
Mr. WENDEROTH. An estimator from the office. \
The CHAIRMAN. He went and looked at it?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. They want to put in a new stairway also, do they
not'.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes sir.
REPAIRS AND PRESERVATION.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is repairs, equipment, and general
expenses of public buildings. The appropriation for the current
year is $725,000 and your estimate for next year is $775,000. For
1914 you had all told $725,000. What is your unexpended balance?
Mr. WENDEROTH. For 1914 the unexpended balance corrected to
December 15 was $3,476.10. .
The CHAIRMAN. And for 1913?
Mr. WENDEROTH. For 1913 the unexpended balance was $6,357.08.
Mr. Chairman, the record of expenditures and liabilities I think is
perhaps a clearer indication of the growth of the appropriation than
the record of balances. The record I have here of all the annual
appropriations shows that the expenditures increase regularly, but if
a very large appropriation is given us there would be a large balance.
In other words, we are not actually expending appropriations merely
because they are given us. The expenditures, especially in the last
four years since we have been perhaps estimating more carefully, are
increasing at an almost regular rate. For instance, fiscal years 1911
and 1912 for repairs and preservation the appropriation Was the
same, $600,000; the increase to 1913 was $25,000; the increase to 1914
was $100,000, but our expenditures are not jumping in that Way.
They are increasing steadily because each year We are placing in
operation about the same number of additional buildings, and unless
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 139
there is an extraordinary condition such as might perhaps be im-
posed by a change in the postal service, the expenses increase stead-
ily and more or less regularly. -
(NOTE.-At the end of the hearing on the annual appropriations
will be found a statement of estimates, appropriations, expenditures,
and balances for all these “annuals” for several years.)
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure you will need $50,000 more
next year?
Mr. WENDEROTH. For 1916, Mr. Chairman
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is about the difference we had in our ex-
penditures between 1913 and 1914. I can not give you an analytical
statement, Mr. Chairman, this year, as I tried to last year. I found
that at the end of the fiscal year 1914, when I called for a statement
of buildings completed, etc., that it did not appear to tally with the
preceding year. I therefore had the entire property under the charge
of the Treasury Department checked from the beginning. We found
Some very serious errors in the list of completed buildings; in fact,
it is only now that we know how many buildings we have. The
number is stated correctly for the first time in the report for the
fiscal year 1914. That was done so near the end of the year and so
near the time for preparing these estimates that we could not divide
it into classes of buildings or ascertain very accurately what we were
spending on each class. We merely know our expenditures must in-
crease with the increase in the number of buildings.
The increase in the expenditure from 1913 to 1914 was $102,880.98,
We are asking an increase of $50,000 in the appropriation from 1915
to 1916, and We believe we will need that amount. We have had one
particular item of expense which appears also in the appropriation
for mechanical equipment. This is due to changes which make it
possible for the Post Office Department to use the basement of build-
ings in the handling of parcel-post matter. You have probably
noted in the report of the Postmaster General that his department
handled 800,000,000 pieces of parcel-post matter without any increase
in the size of buildings. That was because we bent every effort
to use every inch of available space. We placed a number of short-
lift elevator, as we call them, between the first floors and basement
floors for handling the parcel-post matter. That reacted on this
appropriation because it is available for cutting holes in floor and
doing the work incident to installing the lift. In addition, we have
given the Post Office Department a number of chutes for sliding
stuff down into the basement, not classing that as mail-handling
apparatus, and have built in a great deal of shelving and things of
that sort. - -
REPAIR OF BUILDINGS RENTED FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for some changes and modifica-
tions in the wording of the provision'
Mr. WENDEROTH. That refers to the rental.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. # * -
Mr. WENDEROTH. In operation we found that phraseology a little
ambiguous. For instance, for the previous year it stated the ex-
penditures on this account for the fiscal year could not exceed 15
140 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
per cent of the annual rentals of these buildings. It was not quite
definite as to which year it referred. It could not be for the year
during which we made the expenditures, because we do not know
what the rentals are until the end of the year. So we thought if
it could be changed to read “not to exceed 15 per cent of the total
rental for the preceding fiscal year,” it would be more definite. The
other point was that it was not clear whether the restriction applied
to the expenditure which could be made on the individual building
or whether it referred to a percentage of the total rents. -
The CHAIRMAN. I thought we thrashed that all out and it was well
understood? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. I believe not, Mr. Chairman. The chief clerk
rents the property in the city of Washington that is under the con-
trol of the Treasury Department, although the Supervising Archi-
tect looks after the repairs. The question arose about the property
at the back of the old Post Office Building at Eleventh Street and
Pennsylvania Avenue known as the post-office annex site. The
chief clerk wanted to have certain repairs made by the Supervising
Architect, and the question arose whether the limitation applied to
the rental of the individual building or to all the rentals obtained
from the site. The matter was submitted to the comptroller and
on August 29 he rendered an opinion. The last paragraph reads as
follows: -
I am of the opinion that the 15 per cent limitation in the above-quoted
provision of the act of August 1, 1914, applies to the aggregate annual rentals
received from the buildings on a particular site and not to the rental from any
one building alone.
What we understood, Mr. Chairman, or rather what I understood,
was that out of any one year’s appropriation for repairs and preser-
wation we were not to be permitted to expend in fitting up buildings
we rented more than 15 per cent of the total rentals collected. Of
course, the object of the expenditure is to obtain a better income from
the property.
The CHAIRMAN. I thing the understanding was, that if you had
15 per cent of the rent of any building to keep it in repair that you
could handle it better. Before you had no authority to repair build-
ings. Of course, you would not want to spend 50 per cent of the
rent you received on one building.
Mr. WENDEROTH. No.; Mr. Chairman. Of course, it is as you wish
to have it managed. There are cases where we spend nothing at all
on one building during a year, but in order to rent another building
advantageously, we might desire to spend 25 per cent of the rental
of that particular building. The restriction would be that in the
year we did not spend, all told, more than 15 per cent of, say, the
previous year's total income. I do not know that it makes a great
deal of difference. We are willing to manage it in whatever way
you direct. We would like to have it stated definitely.
REPAIRS–AUDITORS' BUILDING.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking us to increase the allowance for
the Treasury, Butler, Winder, and Auditors’ Buildings. We in-
creased that last year. -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 141
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; from $12,000 to $14,000. We had
$12,000 when he had three buildings—an average of $4,000 a build-
ing—and we are now asking for $18,000 for four buildings—an
average of $4,500 a building. r •
The CHAIRMAN. You completely overhauled the Auditors’ Build-
ing, and there is nothing to do on that. We gave you a lot of money,
and you fixed that building up in complete shape. How much did
we give you for that purpose—$75,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. $69,500. There was one appropriation of $40,000
and another appropriation of $29,500.
Mr. Chairman, out of the allotment of $14,000 for the present
fiscal year, the portion set aside to January 1, 1915 (the first half
of the year), was $8,500, which has practically been expended, leav-
ing $5,500 for the last half. There has recently been quite a number
of authorizations for alterations in the Treasury Building, such as
moving partitions, new floors, painting, vault under the lawn, etc.
A matter which has been held up for a long time for lack of funds
and which can not be delayed much longer without detriment to the
building is the painting and repairing of the windows, frames, and
railing in the courts of the building, which would cost approxi-
mately $2,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you not do that work? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. This amount can not be taken from the current
appropriation on account of the usual matters of upkeep. The exte-
rior ironwork of the fourth floor in these courts should be painted
and is included in the estimate. Interior and exterior painting
should be done at these buildings, which would cost in the neigh-
borhood of $3,000, and can not be authorized from the current ap-
propriation.
UNEXPENDED BALANCES OF APPROPRIATIONS FOR BUILDINGS COMPLETED
AND OCCUPIED.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you state the balance to the credit of public
buildings which have been completed and occupied more than one
year? Is there any way we can get that statement?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I returned to Mr. Courts this morning the manu-
script of the hearing when Mr. Newton and Mr. Wetmore were here,
and that contains a detailed explanation of how we happen to have
$11,000,000 more than we believe we will expend. That hearing con-
tains a statement of the balances that have not as yet been turned
into the surplus fund. On page 18 of the hearings is a statement of
amounts that have been carried to the surplus fund since the last
similar statement was made for the sundry civil bill. That is a
statement as of December 1, 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. That aggregates $153,438.66.
Mr. WENDEROTH. I think I have a memorandum about that,
although it does not give the number of the buildings or the names.
The CHAIRMAN. You have, on page 18, a statement headed “Re-
capitulation of public buildings in course of construction December
1, 1914,” and under that “Limit of cost of sites and buildings, $66,-
617.449.81.” Is that right? t - +
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is the limit of cost, Mr. Chairman. This
statement includes buildings that are completed and occupied but are
142 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
still open accounts, because the balances have not gone to the surplus,
fund.
The CHAIRMAN. For land there was spent $5,209,761.75 and for
buildings $49,036,391.37; outstanding liabilities on account of build-
ings, etc., $9,419,622.43; balance available on appropriations, $1,585,-
629.86. Are those buildings practically completed?
Mr. WENDEROTH. They are in all stages of completion, Mr. Chair-
man. You will note that the total expended and outstanding is $63,-
819,214.21. Most of that is expended.
The CHAIRMAN. In your annual report, on page 404, the number
of byildings is given as 1,682. Is that the number of public build-
1I] O’S
Mr. Wenderoth. Mr. Chairman, that is the number of separate
authorizations or separate appropriations. In certain localities there
are several items. For instance, on page 414 is York, Pa., the new
and the old post office. The old building is lying idle waiting au-
thority to sell it. This list includes many cases of that kind.
The CHAIRMAN. Would that show the number of public buildings?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. There is a statement in the front of my
annual report for the fiscal year 1914 which is the first correct state-
ment that has been made. On page 4, the total buildings completed,
in course of erection, or authorized (not including extensions) is
given as 1,429. That, of course, is only the work under the control
of the Treasury Department. It is not the total count of all build-
ings that have been authorized or purchased since the commencement
of the public building work sixty-odd years ago. We cross off a
building that is transferred to another department, such as the new
Washington post office, or a building that is sold or demolished.
This is the corrected list to date. You desire a statement of the
unexpended balances on buildings that are completed? º,
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; and which have been in commission one year
OT II) Ol’e.
The following is a list of buildings occupied prior to January 1, 1914, on
account of which the unencumbered balances will be turned in to the surplus.
fund :
Albuquerque, N. Mex., post Office---------------------------------- $5.00
Americus, Ga., post office----------------------------------------- 15S. 57
*mes, Iowa, Dost office------------------------------------------- 347. 07
*aker City, Oreg., post Office------------------------------------- 4.45
Bradford, Pa., post office----------------------------------------- 13. 54.
Brookhaven, Miss., post office––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 2, 225. 24
Butler, Pa., post office-------------------------------------------- 119. 24
Chester, Pa., post office------------------------------------------- 112. 29
Deluopolis, Ala., Jºost office--------------------------------------- 249. 54
Dotham, Ala., post Office------ * * * * * * *-* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *m tº sm. 1, 792. 32
Easton, Pa., post office------------------------------------------- 2,966. 60
Finid, Okla., post Office and Courthouse----------------------------- 3.18.
Ostherville, Iowa, post Office------------------------------------- 10, 3S
Eugene, Oregº, Dost Office----------------------------------------- 209.90
Fayetteville, N. C., post office––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 18, 32
Gaffney, S. C., Dost office----------------------------------------- 67. 53
Great Falls, Mont., post Office and Courthouse---------------------- 1, 947. 11
Hattiesburg, Miss., post Office----------------------------------- 145, 30.
Kearney, Nebr., Dost office---- * * * - - 82. 28.
lºnoxville, Tenn., post office and Courthouse----------------------- 15. 79
Lancaster, Ohio, post Office--- t 230, 31
Tittle Falls, N. Y., post office * * * * same sº smºs = ºms ºm º ºn-s sºme * sº-s mºss emº sº mºst sº sºme sºme m = ** *m, amº sº me sºm. * *-m . 64
Los Angeles, Cal., post Office and Courthouse----------------------- . 23
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 143
Manhattan, Kans., post office : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $163.79
Marietta, Ohio, post office---------------------------------------- 2S5. 62
Moscow, Idaho, post Office almd courthouse * * 123. 92
Mount Sterling, Ky., post office----------------------------------- 1,021. 21
Murfreesboro, Tenn., post Office----------------------------------- . 08
Murphysboro, Ill., post Office––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 21.00
Newark, N. Y., post office----------------------------------------- 12.96
Palestine, Tex., post office––––––––––––––––––––––––––– ––––––––––––– 61. 58
Phoenix, Ariz., post Office and Courthouse------------------------- 34. 00
Plattsmouth, Nebr., post Office–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 146.47
POntiac, Ill., post Office------ - * * — — - - 22. 68
San Angelo, Tex., post office and Courthouse_ * * * 2. O5
San Francisco, Cal., post Office, Courthouse, etc.--------------------- 4, 232. 27
San Marcos, Tex., post office-------------------------------------- 3.17. 61
Schenectady, N. Y., post Office * * * * * 50.00
Sewickley, Pa., post office---------------------------------------- 2,972. 58
Terrill, Tex., post office------------------------------------------ 1, 427. 11
Texarkana, Tex., Courthouse-------------------------------------- 2S6, 14
Versailles, Ky., post office---------------------------------------- 3, 731. 21
Wabash, Ind., post Office_--__ ------------------------- 1, S35. 24
Westpoint, Miss., post Office--------------------- - - 149. 15
Wichita Falls, Tex., post Office------------------------------------ 7. O0
Williamantic, Conn., post Office_--_ __ 1,083. 29
Woonsocket, R. I., post office------------------------------------- 256, 93
York, Pa., post office--------------------------------------------- 45. 31
Total ------------------------------------------------------ 29, 014. 03
Total number of appropriations involved, 48.
The above list includes only buildings occupied prior to January 1, 1914, on
account of which the unencumbered balances have not as yet been turned into
the surplus fund. It also includes only those buildings for which it has been
definitely determined that the time has arrived for turning in the balances.
Construction contracts for buildings do not include various Small items which
are necessary for the completion of the structure and for which the limit of
cost is available. Among these are such matters as door and window Screens,
vault shelving, occasionally the completion of the approaches, occasionally the
interior painting, etc. Generally the building is occupied as soon as possible
and these matters are taken up at such later times as they may be reached.
It is the practice to check up all of these accounts toward the end of the fiscal
year, arrange for all work properly chargeable to the construction appropriation.
that is found to be necessary to entirely complete the building, and then turn in
the balances. For the buildings in the preceding list it has been definitely deter-
mined that there are no further charges to be made and these balances may be
turned in. For other buildings, specifications have either been issued or are in
course of preparation for the small matters which will complete the structures.
When this is done, any balances remaining will be turned in. There are other
buildings, occupied since January 1, 1914. for which the small Subsequent con-
tracts will be let during the fiscal year 1915, and those balances will them be
turned in. Although the list given above shows balances amounting to but
$29,014.03, it is expected that at the end of the fiscal year 1915 this sum will be
increased to several hundred thousand dollars on account of balances remaining
on other buildings, which at that date it will be definitely determined may be
sent to the surplus fund.
SPECIAL REPORT OF SUPERVISING ARCHITECT ON PUBLIC BUILDINGS
- QUESTIONS.
[See p. 936.]
The CHAIRMAN. In your annual report you say that you have
undertaken, in connection with your report, to prepare a somewhat
comprehensive summary of the public building work, but because
of the magnitude of the subject and the many important phases to
discuss, it is impossible to have it completed within the time Set in
144 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Section 9 of the Sundry civil appropriation act approved August 1,
1914. That is the provision requiring manuscript to be transmitted
to the Public Printer by a certain time?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. I was uncertain, from the wording of
the provision, whether it referred only to reports of heads of execu-
tive departments and independent establishments or the reports of the
subordinates as well.
The CHAIRMAN. That report is not included in this report?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is it about?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I thought, after having studied the public-build-
ing work for something over two years, that it might not be a bad
idea to submit a general statement of the whole matter. I found
from talking with Members of Congress who called at the office,
talking with members of the House Committee on Public Buildings
and Grounds, and from my experience before this committee that
there seemed to be a considerable dearth of information regarding
the extent and character of the public-building Work, the activities
of the Office of the Supervising Architect, its organization, etc.
After discussing it generally with Mr. Newton I undertook the
preparation of a comprehensive statement of the whole matter. It
became so extensive, however, because it is such a large subject, that
I did not have it ready at the date referred to. Fearing that the
portion of the report which has been printed might not be available
at the convening of Congress, we sent down that much.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you that report?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I have the manuscript about completed.
The CHAIRMAN. Please send it to us. [See p. 936.]
Mr. NEWTON. It is about 1,000 pages.
Mr. WENDEROTH. It is a thousand pages of typewriting, Mr.
Chairman. - -
Mr. NEwToN. And covers every phase of all the activities of the
office. - -
MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
[See p. 148.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Mechanical equipment,” and
the appropriation is $445,000, and you are asking for $566,525.
What was your unexpended balance in 1914%
Mr. WENDEROTH. $2,269.86, corrected to December 15.
The CHAIRMAN. And 1913? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. $6,570.83.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you on hand now?
Mr. WBNDEROTH. The appropriation for 1915 is $445,000. We are
required to allot each appropriation by months, as you know...The
expenditures and liabilities to December 15, 1914, were $221,356.91,
leaving at that date an unencumbered balance of $223,643.09 for the
remaining six and one-half months of the fiscal year. In other
words, we have about cut it in two. I might say, Mr. Chairman,
that the expenditures from this appropriation show a steady increase
from the fiscal year 1910 to the fiscal year 1914, although the appro-
priations do not increase as uniformly.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 145
The CHAIRMAN. You made that statement before?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The truth of the matter is we discovered that you
were getting 25 per cent more than you could expend in any one year,
an dhaving these big unexpended balances, we cut the appropriations
down to where they were about the same as your justifiable expendis
tures.
Mr. WENDEROTH. You may be right, Mr. Chairman, as to earlier
estimates and appropriations. The only point we wish to make is
that, inasmuch as 70 to 80 buildings are being completed each year,
the cost of the upkeep of the property and the maintenance of these
buildings must also increase. It is not that these 70 or 80 build-
ings necessarily require any attention the first year they are in com-
mission; it is merely that we have that much more property to look
after. Iri other words, we have now, I think, about 850 complete
buildings in commission. Necessarily the cost of maintaining that
physical property must be more than when we had 425 buildings in
commission, and so while we may not in each year expend anything
at all upon the buildings placed in commission the previous year,
the mere fact that we have an increasing number of buildings results
in an increasing cost of maintenance and operation. The whole
question is, What is an equitable increase in the appropriation? We
are not in a position to prove these figures as to what we need the
Succeeding year, because our analyses have been more or less amateur
and we have not the kind of figures that we should have to present to
you. -
The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of fact, last year, although your estie
mate was $536,500 and your appropriation $445,000, we gave you all
you asked! -
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; we asked for authority
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). You asked for $86,525 for the cene
tral electric alarm system'
Mr. WENDEROTH. You gave us everything except that.
The CHAIRMAN. And $4,000 increase for the Treasury, Winder,
and Butler Buildings? -
Mr. WENDEROTEI. That is within the total. -
The CHAIRMAN. Taking out those items we gave you $445,000, just
about what you asked ?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. Taking out of this estimate for 1916
the sum of $86,525, leaves a difference of $480,000, which is $35,000
more than the 1915 appropriation. The increase of $35,000 is ac-
counted for in this manner: We allow $10,000 for what we consider
the normal increase. In fact, we have all the time more buildings
regardless of whether the buildings were completed last year or the
year before. The difference of $25,000 is allowed for the installa-
tion of short-lift elevators for the convenience of the Post Office
Department in order that we may use basements of buildings for
parcel-post Service. -
The CHAIRMAN. And you now contemplate expending $10,000 for
pneumatic-tube service? tº: -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Those are the tubes We own that connect the
customhouses and the appraisers’ stores in New York City. We
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have authority to expend up to $10,000 if we need it. If not, it is
available for anything else.
The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of fact, you do not expend that
amount? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; it is a matter of protection.
The CHAIRMAN. For an emergency?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
EI, ECTRICAL PROTECTION TO WAUI,TS.
Mr. Chairman, the Secretary has sent a letter to the Speaker re-
garding this item of central electric burglar alarm devices, on page
19, suggesting, if you care to give that any consideration at all, it
might be well to take it out of this appropriation, reducing the
amount to $480,000 and re-creating the electric protection appropria-
tion somewhat in its former form. The House being in recess, we
could not deliver the letter to the Speaker, and so I handed it to
Mr. Courts this morning. We feel conscientious about this matter,
because a number of custodians of buildings, the Director of the
Mint, and the Post Office Department, have been worried about the
funds in their care. -
(NOTE:-The letter to the Speaker is printed as House Document
No. 1450, Sixty-third Congress, third session.)
The CHAIRMAN. The type of buildings in which it is proposed to
install this device have never been burglarized and all the burglaries
have been in the smaller places where nobody ever dreams of putting
the device in Ž
Mr. WENDEROTH. In the buildings rented by the Post Office De-
partment. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Or the other buildings?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. I do not know. Mr. Chairman, we have, for
instance, an old mint in New Orleans which formerly was protected
with the electric burglar-alarm system. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is it used for now? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. It is used as an assay office, but there is a vault
in the basement of the building which contains $22,475,000; a storage
vault. +
The CHAIRMAN. In coin'? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. In coin. It is in an ell of the building on the
ground level. The door opens into a courtyard which is accessible
from the street. It is in a very unfrequented part of the city. Of
course, in order to make a “haul.” that would be worth while, it
would be necessary to take away a wagon load. We appreciate that.
Nevertheless, the custodians of all of this property, not only in New
Örleans but the cashiers in post offices and other officials, are very
much disturbed about the matter. Because the Treasury Department
is the custodian of these buildings, the department can do nothing
less than submit the matter again to your consideration. If a second
time you refuse it, we will feel that we have no more responsibility.
The CHAIRMAN. The department has not yet decided whether it is
going to deposit all that money in the Federal reserve banks. If it
does, the whole Independent Treasury system will be changed.
Mr. NEWTON. In the case of the subtreasury in Chicago the As-
sistant Treasurer declines to be responsible under his bond unless he
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can get Some protection. He has come along with Several proposals,
his last one suggesting an arrangement with the Pinkertons at $25
a month for a night Watchman. - } & :
The CHAIRMAN. How many watchmen have we there now %
Mr. NEWTON. We have none available for that service.
Mr. WENDEROTH. The Treasury Department watchmen are not
used to Watch funds.
The CHAIRMAN. What do they watch?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. They watch the buildings. The other depart-
ments would be glad to have us watch the contents of the vaults.
The CHAIRMAN. At night? e
Mr. WENDEROTH. We do not furnish watchmen to safeguard the
funds of the other departments. *
Mr. MoRDELL. Does not the Treasury Department have such
Watchmen?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We have such watchmen as we employ to take
care of the building, as a building, but one of our watchmen will
patrol the entire structure. Our watchmen are generally employed
only when the buildings are open to the public.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is still undecided whether all these
funds are to be turned over to the Federal reserve banks?
Mr. NEWTON. So far as the subtreasuries are concerned, I think;
yes. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Here is a latter from the Assistant Treasurer
at Chicago. Referring to the vault protection, writing under date
of September 23, 1914, he states:
This matter is of the greatest importance, not only to me but to the depart-
ment as well. The amount of funds carried in this office is such that every
precaution should be taken to safeguard it. I am informed that every bank
of any importance in the city of Chicago, none of which carries an amount of
currency so large as does this office, is provided with this electrical service and
relies to a very great extent on its efficiency.
The system we recommend installing is our own system, and after
the initial cost of installation has been met the annual cost of main-
tenance is almost negligible.
The CHAIRMAN. After we get them all in we might have a lot of
vaults without anything in them. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. There will be the funds of the post-office cash-
iers and the internal-revenue collectors.
The CHAIRMAN. We went into the electrical system last year
pretty thoroughly? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. At any rate, the Secretary has written
this letter to the Speaker, suggesting that if you give the System
favorable consideration it be done in a separate apprapriation, and
that authority for the same be taken out of the estimate for me-
chanical equipment. &
The CHAIRMAN. The $86,000 is merely for installation?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you included for operation?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Further on, in the estimate for operating Sup-
plies, is the sum of $500. The cost of operation is negligible, be-
cause it is merely a matter of renewing dry batteries, etc. It does
not call for personal services. If the $86,000 is in a separate appro-
priation and not all of it is expended the balance returns to the
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Treasury and is not available for anything else. Of course, as to
storage vaults filled with silver dollars, etc., the bulk of the mat-
ter would be its own protection, but a great many of these other
vaults have paper money and valuable stocks. In a good many of
the post offices the vaults have a great deal of very valuable stock,
stamps, etc.
TREASURY, BUTLER, WINDER, AND AUDITORS' BUILDINGS.
The CHAIRMAN. For the Treasury, Butler, Winder, and Audi-
tors’ Buildings you ask for $12,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. When we had the Treasury, Butler, and Winder
Buildings only the allotment was $9,000, which was an average of
$3,000 a building. We are asking, now that we have four buildings,
that the allotment remain at the rate of $3,000 a building, or $12,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You exclude the most important thing, that is the
generating plant.
Mr. WENDEROTH. That would largely increase the allotment.
The CHAIRMAN. It is excluded?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. It was excluded before.
The CHAIRMAN. And the whole thing is taken care of by the
Bureau of Engraving and Printing?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We have the elevators, the extending of the con-
duits, making incidental adjustments in the Sanitary work, etc.
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you $69,500.
Mr. WENDEROTH. But the operation of the building entails a con-
tinuing expense for the same reason that you give us several mil-
lion dollars for the 800 buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. We increased that last year?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The increase was $1,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How many buildings did you have in commission
on the 1st of July, 1913, the 1st of July, 1914, and what number do
you expect to have the 1st of July, 1915?
Mr. WENDEROTHI. I will insert a correct statement.
Buildings completed and in Operation July 1, 1913–––––––––––––––––––––––– 757
Buildings completed during fiscal year 1914------------------------------ 67
Buildings Completed and in Operation July 1, 1914----------------------- 824
Besides the 67 buildings completed during the fiscal year 1914, there were
COm])leted 9 extensions. These are not included, because as Soon as an exten-
sion is completed it merges into the original building.
MARINE HOSIPITAL STATION S.
Stations completed and in Operation July 1, 1913, 28.
No additional buildings built during fiscal year 1914.
QUARANTINE STATIONS.
Stations completed and in operation July 1, 1913, 26.
During the fiscal year 1914 additional buildings were erected to increase the
facilities of quarantine stations (San Juan, P. R., and Honolulu, Hawaii), but
these are not COunted, inasmuch as they do not increase the number of Stations.
During the first half of the present fiscal year there have been completed 30
new buildings and 3 extensions. This is apparently below normal, but in
reality there are 9 buildings ready, the occupancy of which has been delayed
OWing to the fact that the postmaster's did not want to move in until after the
holidays.
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In addition to these, it is expected that 40 buildings and 5 extensions will be
completed during the remainder of the fiscal year, making a total of 79 build-
ings and 8 extensions during the fiscal year 1915.
It would therefore appear that July 1, 1915, there would be completed and
in operation not less than 903 buildings under the control of the Treasury
Department. This does not include any extensions, any buildings which on
Completion will be turned Over to other departments, any extensions to the
facilities at the 54 marine hospitals and quarantine stations, or any miscel-
laneous buildings, such as the animal house at the Hygienic Laboratory, or
any Special repairs.
WAULTS AND SAFES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Vaults and safes,” and the ap-
propriation is $100,000 and you are asking for $110,000. Have we
not supplied all the buildings in the United States with vaults and
safes?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, Mr. Chairman: and we never will. The
construction appropriation for a building is available for the built-
in vaults; they are a part of the structure. The movable safes in
the new buildings, which we term the safe equipment, are chargeable
to this appropriation. All increases in the safe equipment in com-
pleted buildings are chargeable to this appropriation. After the
building is completed if an additional vault is needed it is chargeable
to this appropriation. When we move officials to a completed build-
ing this appropriation pays for moving the safes. Then we have
the post-office lock boxes. If the postmaster finds that he has an in-
creased demand for lock boxes, the appropriation for repairs and
preservation will make the change in the post-office screen so as to
accommodate an additional number of lock boxes. This appropria-
tion, however, pays for the lock boxes, although when we are erect-
ing the building the lock boxes are paid for out of the construction
appropriation. This appropriation is, as it were, always active, and
as the number of completed buildings increases the expenditures
must increase, the same as with repairs and preservation.
The CHAIRMAN. You contemplate expending 50 per cent as much
to repair safes in old buildings and change their combinations as
you do to buy new safes. Is not that a very high percentage? The
changing of the combination does not take long.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Seventy thousand dollars is the additional equip-
ment of safes in new buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the safes?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Buying new safes. Thirty-five thousand dollars
is made up of additional safes in old buildings, repairing existing.
safes and changing combinations. The phrase “safes in old build-
ings” means extra safes; it is not entirely for repairing safes. We
spend quite a considerable sum in additional safe equipment.
The CHAIRMAN. That includes, besides repairing, new safes?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. Yes, sir; extending the safe equipment in the old
buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. These safes are for new buildings, buildings not
yet in commission?
Mr. WENDEROTH. A portion of the appropriation is for safes in
new buildings. They cost us about $1,000 per building.
The CHAIRMAN. Does anybody know how many safes we own’
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; because the Treasury Department owns
a great many, the Post Office Department owns a great many, and
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various other departments own safes. When we erect a building
that accommodates other branches of the service we find that some-
times they have safes in their custody which they have bought. Then
we use this appropriation to move the safes into the new building.
I do not believe anybody knows how many safes we own, and I do
not know that it would be possible to ascertain it. The Post Office
Department sells its old safes, and the proceeds are included in the
gross postal receipts. Mr. Chairman, the additional Safe equipment
in each of the 70 or 80 buildings that we complete each year costs
about $1,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You buy various sized safes?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; money-order safe, postal-savings safe
cabinets, the safe for the postmaster—there are several types of Safes
according to the requirements.
The CHAIRMAN. And it averages about $1,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those supposed to be burglar proof, or only
fireproof? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. They are fireproof safes and reasonably burglar
proof, but an acetylene flame would go through one of the safe doors
in a very few moments. They really protect the contents of the safe
from petty pilfering within the building.
GENERAL EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “General expenses,” and your
appropriation is $563,560, and your estimate for the next year is the
same. This is the active organization of the department?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. It is now gauged to turn out how much work?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I have only one year's figures. While I hope
to keep up to that, and hope that it will set a standard, I would not
care to promise it until we approach the end of this year. As near
as I can figure, the organization provided for in “General expenses”
and the clerical organization provided for in the legislative bill
enables us to place under contract about $7,000,000 worth of what
we call new construction a year. Of course, our total annual expen-
ditures for all our activities are now about $18,000,000 a year. We
are placing under contract about $7,000,000 a year in new buildings,
extensions, and special repairs from our own plans. That does not
include anything from plans of private architects or the work of any
Special organizations.
The CHAIRMAN. In addition to this $563,560 you have additional
ºplºyees provided for in the legislative bill, aggregating how
much? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. The appropriation for clerical employees, as I
recall, aggregates $220,800. The Secretary decided that the estimate
for the support of the office for the year 1916 should remain the same
as the appropriations for the present year.
SITE AG ENTS AND SITES.
The CHAIRMAN. Last year we initiated a new method of selecting
sites, and provided funds especially for the compensation of men
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 151
to be employed and for their traveling expenses. Have the sites
been all selected 3 . - -
Mr. NEWTON. Not all selected, but all inspected once, some of them
twice, and some of them three or four times. There is a small bal-
ance out of that special appropriation that we are holding back to
pay for reinspection work. * -> - :
The CHAIRMAN. What was the result of that scheme?
Mr. NEWTON. It was generally very satisfactory. We drew some
good Ones and Some who were not so good. You recall, of course,
that the purpose of the act was to enable us to take, outside of the
architect’s force, special men for the inspection of sites. We have
employed altogether, I think, 10. The majority of these men did
very good work. In some cases it has been necessary to put on
experts for reinspection. We have retained the best of the 10 for
that purpose.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it working out in a manner that justifies your
ºpºtation that you would save money on the purchasing of the
sites? w
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir; we have saved upward of $300,000 now on
the authorizations of about 90 sites that have been selected. There
have been only that number actually acquired out of the 300 au-
thorizations. By very careful scrutiny and investigation by the
department and through these agents we have made that saving.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you reach the conclusion that you have
saved about $300,000?
Mr. NEWTON. It is not a conclusion; it is an actual fact.
The CHAIRMAN. $300,000 from the authorizations? -
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir. I will give you an illustration. At Dallas,
Tex., there was an authorization of $300,000 for a site. We obtained
that site after four or five months of negotiation for $250,000, al-
though the assessors of the city had sworn that it was worth $305,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Was not that due to some competition between
several sites? * tº
Mr. NEWTON. Usually there is more or less competition in all these
C2S62S.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you determine that you made this saving
as a result of this new system? - -
Mr. NEWTON. We use the inspectors in this way: The first inspec-
tion will be made. The agent reports his first, second, and third
choices. We will say that the appropriation is $10,000 for a site,
It usually follows that all sites offered in that town are placed at
$10,000 or more. Then if we are not satisfied that we are getting a
site for a reasonable figure we send another inspector there and, per-
haps, he will get a reduction. When the time comes for making the
selection I usually send two or three telegrams, about like this:
Your site, among others, is being considered. What is your lowest figure?
In that way we usually get a reduction. We get from the post-
master, from the assessors, from the mayor, from the city clerk, and
from anyone who is competent to know, statements as to the actual
value of the property. -
The CHAIRMAN. You say that these 90 sites have been purchased
at a saving of about $300,000?
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152 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. NEWTON. Considerably more than that. The last figures I had
were about $285,000, and that amount is much larger now.
The CHAIRMAN. Less than the authorizations?
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement showing the
total authorizations for those 90 sites. *
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir.
SUMMARY OF SAVINGs EFFECTED IN PURCHASEs or LAND AUTHORIZED IN THE 1913
PUBLIC-BUILDING BII.L.
CASES WHERE SITE ONLY WAS ATUTHORIZED.
Total amount authorized in the 40 cases which have been settled to
date------- * * –4– - - __ $591, 500. 00.
Actual amount spent under these authorizations_________________ 496, 394.7F,
Swine erected ------------------------------------------ 95, 105.25
CASES INVOLVING PURCHASIES OF ADDITIONAL LAND.
AImount Saved in negotiating With the vendors in the 7 cases set-
tled : The difference between the price first asked by the vendor
fund the price agreed upon by the department represents a
saving Of__ * = a- - - -s me amº, amº ºm m ms mºs - sºme a sº- amº - * * * * * same mass ºms amº - * * = sm ºr * = - mm amº amº ºme ºm m. 44, 900. 00
CASES 1N WOI-VING PURCHASES OF LAND WIHERE BOTH SITE AND BUILDING
WERE AUTHORIZED IN TEIE SAID ACT.
Total annount authorized in 52 cases settled, $3,912,500.
20 per cent of the above is_-__ $782, 500. 00
Actual amount Spent under authorization___________ 544, S26.00
Silving effected ------------------------------------------ 237, 674. 0ſ)
(NOTE.-Twenty per cent of the total authorization is taken for
the Ireason that this is the average percentage reserved for site
where site and bluilding alºe authorized in the Same act. In these
cases the difference between the price first asked by the vendor t
and the price finally agreed upon by the department represents a
§aving of $70,974.)
Total grand saying effected__ -- smº m mem __ 377, 679. 25
In a great many of the above cases the department was able, by negotiation
With the vendors, to obtain, without increase in price, a larger parcel of land.
which is the converse of obtaining the Same land for less money. The figures
given naturally do not show this important advantage accruing to the Govern-
ment. f
The CHAIRMAN. The agents cost—their compensation and travel-
ing expenses—$30,000?
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir; $15,000 for salaries and $15,000 for ex-
penses. - - gº º
Mr. MoRDELL. You say that in the past ordinarily the site has cost
approximately the amount authorized? - -
Mr. NEWTON. So far as I can discover there has never been any
particular effort made to secure a reduction from the authorization
or the original proposal. I can not discover that men were ever
sent out for that purpose, that there was ever any general reinspec-
tion, or that any particular effort was made by the department to
secure reduction in price. * ,
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 153
Mr. WENDEROTH. Of course, there are some cases where there were
savings. I recall the site at Portland, Oreg., where the limit of cost
was $500,000 and the site cost $340,000. This statement will show
the authorization and amount expended for each site already
acquired. g
ARCHITECTURAL COMPETITION S.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Architectural competitions.”
This is a reappropriation?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, Mr. Chairman. The original appropria-
tion of $175,000, which was reappropriated from time to time, is
now about used up. We are not asking for any reappropriation of
the balance, but asking for a further appropriation of $65,000. We
had $175,000 in 1913. The balance was reappropriated in 1914 and
the balance of that in 1915. Now we are asking for $65,000 addi-
tional. -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for $65,000. Why? This appro-
priation was to enable the Secretary of the Treasury to make pay-
ments for architectural services on contracts entered into prior to
the repeal of the Tarsney Act.”
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. There were certain contracts then in existence?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many contracts are there now %
Mr. WENDEROTH. There appear to be seven. We have in the em-
ploy of the department seven architects whose services have not been
completed. Then there may be small balances due others whose servi
ices have meen completed but the accounts not as yet closed. The
seven are Denver, Colo.; Hilo, Hawaii; Honolulu, Hawaii; New
Haven, Conn.; New Orleans, La. ; Orange, N. J.; and the San Fran-
cisco subtreasury.
The CHAIRMAN. And Boston, Mass.”
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is paid from the building appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. That is not paid out of this appropriation?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Hilo was not under the Tarsney Act.”
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; it was placed in this appropriation spe-
cifically. -
The CHAIRMAN. Authorized specifically in the act itself?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. That was because the Hilo architect
was previously paid from the appropriation for “General expenses.”
When that appropriation was made entirely for the support of the
Office of the Supervising Architect it was necessary to provide else-
where for further payments to the Hilo architect.
The CHAIRMAN. You have spent all of the $175,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask that this appropriation be available dur-
ing the current fiscal year as well as during the next fiscal year. Do
you expect to meet some payments out of it? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. The reason for that is that each time you reap-
propriated the balance it read: “To be immediately available,” and the
Division of Bookkeeping and Warrants digested it to cover two
years, such as 1913–14, 1914–15, etc. In this case the appropriation
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will be in a bill which presumably will be passed by the 4th of March,
and there will be four months of the fiscal year 1915 still to run.
Therefore, we inserted the necessary wording so that any accounts
falling due after March 4 could be paid without waiting until July 1.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the balance of your $175,000 appro-
priation? . -
Mr. WENDEROTEI. This statement I have is of December 23, 1914,
and of course it changes from month to month. On that date, for
the fiscal year 1915 we had unexpended $18,327.14 and we had $38,-
731.14 estimated as outstanding. When the latter amount will fall
due, we can not tell.
The CHAIRMAN. How much money do you have now %
Mr. WENDEROTII. That uses up the entire original appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. You have that $38,731.14%
Mr. WENDEROTH. We have $38,731.14 on December 23, but it will
not complete the payments on all the contracts.
The CHAIRMAN. And you are asking for $65,000 more?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Does that cover all the commissions which you
anticipate will be earned under these outstanding contracts?
Mr. WENDEROTH. In so far as we are able to estimate them. Of .
course, we do not know until the buildings are completed and we
can ascertain the final cost of the work upon which the architect is
entitled to fees.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you anticipate that this amount will be due be-
fore the close of the coming fiscal year? -
Mr. WENDEworth. Before the close of the fiscal year 1916?
Mr. MoRDELí. Yes, sir.
Mr. WENDEROTEI. They will all be due except at Honolulu, which
has not been commenced. The payments are really to cover exist-
ing contract liabilities rather than actual payments which may fall
due during the fiscal year 1916. The estimate of $65,000 might,
perhaps, be reduced in so far as actual payments are concerned.
The existing balance of the original appropriation of $175,000
for “Architectural competitions,” which is béing reduced con-
stantly as payment on account are made to architects, will be en-
tirely expended before very long. It will then be necessary, as
stated, to appropriate the sum of $65,000 to meet outstanding obli-
gations existing at this time, in so far as that may be determined.
For one contract—that for the services on the building at Honolulu—
no payments whatever have been made since the first payment fol-
lowing the award of the competition. The architects have not been
enabled to commence the preparation of their actual scale working
drawings because of a difficulty over the site, which apparently can
not be straightened out without legislation. At the present time
contract liabilities exist with the architects for the Honolulu build-
ing in thesum of $35,320, on which no payments will be made until
after the scale working drawings have been prepared and approved.
It would be desirable to obtain a portion of this sum in the event that
amendatory legislation is passed and work on the plans may be com-
pleted. It is estimated that about $15,000 would be sufficient to meet
this contingency, should it arise before the expiration of the fiscal
year 1916. The estimate of $65,000 could, therefore, be reduced to
$45,000, with the understanding, of course, that the difference of
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$20,000 would be submitted in a Subsequent estimate, presumably that
for the fiscal year 1917.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is it that you want $65,000 more?
Mr. WENDEROTH. There are three reasons, Mr. Chairman. In the
first place the estimate of $175,000 was an estimate of the amount
which would be due to meet all further payments to the architects
then in the employ of the department under the Tarsney Act, in-
cluding the field architect, on the basis of existing contracts. When
we enter into a contract with an architect we agree that until the final
cost of the building has been actually ascertained his payments on
account will be based on an estimated cost, which is a certain per-
centage of the limit of cost that we fix. He is not entitled to per-
centages on any expenditures that the Supervising Architect man-
ages. After Several years certain of those contracts were closed out,
and we ascertained definitely the amount on which the architect was
entitled to payments. In several cases it was more than the esti-
mated amount. In addition to that, the limits of cost of several of
the buildings have been increased and the contracts with the archi-
tects amended to cover those increases. This means, of course, an
increase in the fees.
PORTLAND, OREG., PUBLIC BUILDING, ARCHITECTs For.
In addition to that, we have a little account on the Portland,
Oreg., building that we would very much like to settle in order to
be equitable to the competitors. The act of March 4, 1913, authorized
the Secretary of the Treasury to hold a competition—it made it
mandatory on him—among no less than five architects for the com-
mission to design the building in Portland, Oreg., as a post office.
Senator Lane then became interested in the matter, and in October
of the same year, after the competitors were at work on their draw-
ings, had the legislation amended so that the building should be
constructed for the post office and such other governmental offices as
could be accommodated in it. That required a material change in
the program for the competition. The architects were then working
on their drawings, and they were compelled to throw away what they
had done and begin over again. Because that was not their fault
we thought it would be fair to reimburse those of the architects who
did not win the competition. There were five architects, and four of
them had expenses which they tell us totaled $2,074.44 up to the time
when we required them to start anew. We would like to reimburse
them for that.
The CHAIRMAN. This does not say that. This is to pay the Second
I’Oll]). t
g Ş. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; this is the second group. We really
had two sets of competitors for that building.
The CHAIRMAN. But this is the first group.
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. The first group will not be paid any-
thing.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? &
Mr. WENDEROTH. Because the Secretary withdrew his invitation
to them, and any expense to which they had subjected themselves up
to the time the invitation was withdrawn was their own loss.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not understand that. You invited five archi-
tects to prepare drawings—is that right?
156 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. "WENDEROTH. We invited seven originally.
The CHAIRMAN. And they went on until the law was changed?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; there was an intermediate stage.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you had three groups?
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; two groups. First, the Secretary in-
vited seven architects, and each accepted the invitation. Then they
read the program and thought they would like to have it changed
in certain particulars, but as they had already accepted the invita-
tion the Secretary felt that they were not in a position to ask to have
the program changed, and he withdrew his invitation. To be exact,
he withdrew the invitation to six of the seven, because one of the
competitors offered no protest. Those men have no claim and we are
not asking that they be reimbursed for any expenses. They con-
stitute the first group. The Secretary then selected a second group
of five architects, one of whom was in the first competition, but had
made no protest. Out of the five in the second group a selection was
made of an architect in San Francisco. We do not feel that he is
entitled to any consideration because of the extra work, as he won
the commission and that should sufficiently reimburse him for any
additional labor. The other four, however, lost out, and they were
compelled to undergo expenses for drawings which the department
required them to throw away because of the change in the legislation.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does that amount to ?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The claims that have been submitted amount to
$2,074.44.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they to be paid anything for participating in
a competition, although unsuccessful
Mr. WENDEROTTI (interposing). That is what we are trying to do
up to the point
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I do not mean that
Mr. WENDEROTEI. After that ?
The CHAIRMAN. For instance, they participated in a competition
and incurred certain expenses; will they get any reimbursement on
that account' gº
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. This is what they lost up to the time
that we changed the program. Whatever they lost up to the time
we made the change, we are asking to be reimbursed. We are only
asking that they be reimbursed up to that point.
The CHAIRMAN. You say that in certain of these buildings the con-
tracts were modified because of increases in the limits of cost; which
buildings were those?
Mr. WENDEROTII. The Denver, Colo., building, for which the limit
of cost was increased $400,000; the Honolulu building, for which
the limit of cost was increased $225,000, and the New Haven, Conn.,
building, for which the limit of cost was increased $400,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those all?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
BOSTON, M Ass., CUSTOM HOUSE, PAYMENT TO PEABODY & STEARN.S.
The CIIAIRMAN. There were three of them. Now, does that cover
the Boston case? &
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Peabody was the architect of the Boston
customhouse, was he not? t
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Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. He has written me a letter requesting that the law
be changed so as to permit the payment to him of about $18,000 addi-
tional, or the sum that he would have earned on the $300,000 that
Congress authorized to be expended in excess of $1,500,000, regard-
less of the provision in that act prohibiting the payment of any addi-
tional amount for architects’ services for that excess cost. I want to
ask you about Peabody & Stearns, because Mr. Peabody has written
to me, and I want to know whether the department has any recom-
mendation to make in regard to the matter.
Mr. NEwTON. No, sir. I am not entirely familiar with it, except
that Mr. Peabody has called upon me and discussed the matter. I
only know his contention. He claims, I believe, that on the basic
contract he is entitled to a commission on the full amount expended.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what he contends.
Mr. NEWTON. Yes, sir. His contention is that that was his con-
tract.
Mr. WENDEROTH. I am quite sure that the limit of cost was fixed
by Congress at $1,800,000, and that Peabody & Stearns had a con-
tract in accordance with that limit; that afterwards we were given
authority to pay for the moving expenses and the rent of temporary
quarters out of the limit of cost, which reduced it about $300,000.
Then the limit was restored. I know that the Treasury Department
entered into a contract with Peabody & Stearns on the basis of an
ultimate limit of cost of $1,800,000, or whatever proportion of that
might be finally expended from their plans and specifications. Such
a contract exists, and at that time the limit of cost fixed by Congress
was $1,800,000. Of course, the Treasury Department would not enter
into a contract for expenditures in excess of any authorized limit.
The CHAIRMAN. His contract calls for 6 per cent?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Those are trust prices.
Mr. WENDEROTH. The ultimate expenditure has not been deter-
mined. I imagine it will be, so far as their plans are concerned,
about $1,725,000. They receive no commission on their own com-
mission and no commission on anything that the Supervising
Architect attends to. For instance, there is a very large clock for
which the architects designed the stone face and hands, but they did
not design the clock machinery. We excluded that from their
work and we are looking after it. There are, also, a great many
counters in the building, and we are attending to them. They will
obtain no commission on those counters. -
The CHAIRMAN. The original act provided also for the expenses
incidental to the rental of temporary quarters to house the force
during the enlargement of the building, and it was estimated that
that rental and other expense would be $300,000. Their original
estimate was, if I recall it correctly, that it would take about
$2,000,000 to put up the kind of building that ought to be put up
there, and they claimed that they could not design a building that
would cost $1,500,000. They prepared plans for a building that
would cost about $1,800,000. Then, we modified the law by elimi-
nating the cost of removal and housing so as to bring it to $1,800,000,
but on the condition that the architects should not be paid in excess
158 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Qf6 per cent upon the original authorization. They had submitted,
I thinks a tentative proposition on a building to cost $2,000,000.
Mr. NEWTON. What is he asking a commission on now %
The CHAIRMAN. He asks for a commission on the amount above
$1,500,000. . -
Mr. WENDEROTH. He is asking a commission on the difference be-
tween $1,500,000 and the actual expenditure. The latter will amount
to about $1,725,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any recommendation to make?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I think it should be paid. You do not desire us
to accept gratuitous personal Services, but you are forcing us to do
it in this case. -
The CHAIRMAN. That was the condition on which he went ahead
with the work. They contracted to do the work for a commission of
6 per cent on $1,500,000. * , & -
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. The legislation requires that the archi-
tects, shall be paid a fee on $1,500,000, but they are required to
furnish drawings on all of the work up to the ultimate limit of
expenditure, with certain exceptions. There is no manner of re-
stricting their work to an expenditure of $1,500,000 out of a total
of $1,800,000. -
Statement of legislation for the Boston, customhouse.
LEGISLATION.
Act of \ſily 30, 1908, Site--------------------------------------- $500, 000. 00
Act Of Mar. 4, 1909, enlargement, etc., previous act amended and
limit Set at $1,800,000 1, 300, 000. 00
- 1, 800, 000.00
Amount expended for rent of temporary quarters as per act of ;
July 10, 1912 270, 324.60
- - - 1, 529, 675. 40
Act of Aug. 1, 1914, reimburses appropriation for expenditures on
account of temporary quarters - 270, 324.60
1, 800, 000. 00
- APPROPRIATIONS.
May 30, 1908 500, 000. 00
June 25, 1910 100,000. 00
Mill'. 4, 1911--------------------------------------------------- 500, 000. 00
Aug. 24, 1912 250, 000. 00
June 23, 1913 450, 000.00
1, 800, 000. 00
Total encumbrances to date. 1, 776, 001. 14
The act of March 4, 1909, provides, among other things: tº
“* * * That the total cost of said enlargement, remodeling, or exten-
Sion of said customhouse building shall not exceed One million eight hundred
thousand dollars, including expenses incident to the temporary removal of the
force employed in the customhouse during the enlargement, remodeling, or
extension.”
The contract with the architects, Messrs. Peabody & Stearns, Was dated
December 24, 1909, and provides for a commission of 6 per cent on an estimated
amount of $1,415,094.34 until the actual construction cost is ascertained. &
The act approved July 10, 1912, amends the act of March 4, 1909, by. Striking
out the words “* * * including expenses incident to the temporary re-
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moval of the force employed in the customhouse during the enlargement, re-
modeling, or extension,” and provides as follows: .
“That such amounts as the Secretary of the Treasury has charged against
the appropriation for Customhouse, Boston, Massachusetts, for expenses incident
to the temporary removal of the force employed in the customhouse during the
enlargenerit, remodeling, or extension of said customhouse shall be repaid to said
appropriation from moneys in the Treasury to be hereafter appropriated: Pro-
Aſided, That no compensation Shall be paid to architects additional to the
amounts now due or payable under the original limit of cost of said building,
to wit, one million five hundred thousand dollars, or because of the increased
limit of cost provided by this act.” -
Department letter dated August 7, 1912, advises the architects of the fact
that their commissions are to be based On a limit Of $1,500,000. -
It will be noted from the above that the contract with the architects of
December 24, 1909, was based On an estimated expenditure of less than
$1,500,000. When, however, the act of July 10, 1912, amended the act of March
4, 1909, by providing for the repayment of the expenses incident to the tem-
porary removal of the force employed in the customhouse, the Treasury De-
partment approved drawings prepared by the architects which represented an
ultimate expenditure of $1,800,000, less the architects’ commissions and certain
items which would be taken care of by the Supervising Architect. In view of
this action by the Treasury Department, it would appear that the architects
are equitably entitled to a commission on the cost of all work executed from
their plans and specifications within the limit of $1,800,000, notwithstanding
the limitation Contained in the act approved July 10, 1912.
OPERATING FORCE. \
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for operating force of public
buildings. The current appropriation is $2,650,000, and your esti-
mate is $2,850,000. What was the unexpended balance of that ap-
propriation in 1913? :
Mr. WENDEROTH. In 1913 the unexpended balance was $93,653.84;
in 1914 the unexpended balance was $88,391.27; and on December
15, 1914, for the 1915 appropriation, we had a book deficit of $374.72.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by a book deficit? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. At the beginning of each fiscal year we charge
up as a liability the salaries for the entire year for the members of
the operating force at that time on the roll, although, of course, the
money is expended in installments during the year. As each addi-
tional building is placed in commission, we charge up the salaries
of the force for the balance of that particular fiscal year. We con-
sider all of these as liabilities, and on that basis, on December 15,
1914, the appropriation was more than mortgaged and showed a
deficit of $374.72. Therefore, in order to come out whole at the end
of this year we must depend absolutely upon what we call lapses,
because of employees who are absent— -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How do you figure that you will
require $200,000 more next year?
Mr. WENDEROTH.. I can not give you the detailed figures. I can
only say that it is due to the increase in the force due to new build-
ings to be placed in commission.
The CHAIRMAN. You guess and we guess. We have guessed pretty
well so far.
Mr. WENDEROTH. At the present time that is about the status of
it. We have no analytical or cost-keeping system, and it is largely
a guess. In 1913 we actually expended $2,406,346.16. Two years
later the expenses had gone up $250,000, or at the rate of $125,000 a
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year. At that rate it would be about $2,775,000. The forces in
many buildings are restricted and the salaries are low. The Post
Office Department is paying in our own buildings for its own work
of this same character salaries averaging $780 per year. We have
the same sort of people, working side by side with the Post Office
employees, at an average compensation of $610.50 a year. There is
a great deal of dissatisfaction, and it is becoming a more and more
difficult problem to handle. This statement shows that for the first
six months of the fiscal year 1915 we have an apparent deficit of
$374.72, and we still have, perhaps, 35 or 40 new buildings to be
placed in commission. We must depend entirely upon lapses to see
our way through this year. That shows that the appropriation is
running very close. *”
The CHAIRMAN. Anyone can administer the public service with
lavish appropriations and unlimited means, but it takes a competent
man to do it when the appropriations are restricted to the actual
needs of the service.
Mr. NEwTON. I would like to say in connection with that that it is
a very great problem, and it is all the time becoming more acute.
It is a matter of great difficulty, because there is not only this differ-
ence in the salaries, but in almost every section where there is a large
building there is a constant demand for additional services. Our
custodian force is very small in some buildings, and the pressure is
very intense on the department all the time, both for more men and
for better salaries. The difference in the salaries, of course, accen-
tuates that demand.
The CHAIRMAN. In eight years the cost of operating these build-
ings has increased 100 per cent. That is a serious problem. That is
just $1,300,000. .
Mr. WENDEROTH. If all of the buildings now under construction
are completed during the fiscal year 1915, we will have 1,000 build-
ings in operation, and our total operating cost will be about $7,-
500,000 a year. When all of the buildings now authorized are com-
pleted there will be about 1,500 buildings, and we will then have an
Annual maintenance and operating cost of about $10,500,000.
The CHAIRMAN. As against what now % g .
Mr. WENDEROTH. As against about $6,000,000 now. That, however,
does not raise any salaries. It will mean continuing at the present
rate.
ASSISTANT CUSTODIAN S.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice in the detailed Statement you have an
assistant custodian at $2,250. .
Mr. WENDEROTH. I think he is in Philadelphia.
The CHAIRMAN. The custodian of a building is designated by the
Secretary of the Treasury from one of the public officials occupying
the building, is he not? y
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And he is usually some one in the Treasury Serv-
ice if there is any such person in the building? e
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. However, out of over 800 custodians
more than 700 are postmasters. *
The CHAIRMAN. You have four at $2,250 and five at $2,000. Where
are they located ?
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161
Mr. WENDEROTH. I do not know where they are.
Mr. NEWTON. One of them is at New York and one at Philadelphia.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you have assistant custodians like that?
Mr. NEWTON. They are in the larger cities. Just how many there
are I do not know.
The CHAIRMAN. You have four assistant custodians at $2,250 each,
five at $2,000 each, one at $1,800, eight at $1,600 each, eight at $1,400
each, and nine at $1,200 each. Do you contemplate continuing that
many? In 1914 you had 38.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Those others are assistant custodian-janitors.
The CHAIRMAN. You have assistant custodian-janitors, assistant
custodian-engineers, and assistant janitor-watchmen.
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is because they are required to perform
janitor service.
fy
ASSISTANT CUSTODIAN S.
Employed, 1914.
$2250 : ,
Chicago, Ill., post Office.
New York Coulthouse.
New York Customhouse.
New York post office.
$2000:
Boston, Mass., post office.
Cincinnati, Ohio.
Philadelphia, Pa., post office.
St. Louis, Mo., customhouse.
$1800:
San Francisco post Office.
$1600:
Baltimore, Md., post office.
Brooklyn, N. Y., post office.
Cleveland, Ohio.
New Orleans, La., customhouse.
New York City appraisers.
Pittsburgh, Pa., old post office.
St. Louis, Mo., post Office.
$1400 :
Atlarıta, Ga., post Office.
Buffalo, N. Y., post office.
Detroit, Mich., post office.
Los Angeles, Cal.
Louisville, Ky.
Portland, Ore., post office.
Providence, R. I.
$1200:
Poston, Mass. Customhouse.
Indianapolis, Ind.
Minneapolis, Minn., old post office.
St. Paul, Minn., post office.
Seattle. Wash.
Spokane, Wash.
Tacoma, Wash.
72785—15—11
*
$1600:
Contemplated, 1916.
$2250 :
Chicago, Ill., post Office.
New York COT, Ithouse.
New York Cuscombouse.
New York post office.
$2000:
Boston, Mass., post office.
Cincinnati, Ohio.
Philadelphia, Pa., post office.
St. Louis, MO., Customhouse.
Denver, Colo., new post office.
$1800: -
San Francisco post Office.
San Francisco appraisers.
Baltimore, Md., post office.
Prooklyn, N. Y., post office.
Cleveland, Ohio.
New Orleans, La., customhouse.
New York City appraisers.
Pittsburgh, Pa., old post office,
St. Louis, Mo., post Office.
$1400 :
Atlanta, Ga., post Office.
Buffalo, N. Y., post office.
Boston, Mass., Customhouse.
Detroit, Mich., post office.
Los Angeles, Cal.
Jouisville, Ky.
New Orleans, La., new post Office.
Portland, Ore., post office.
Providence, R. I.
$1200:
Indianapolis, Ind.
Minneapolis, Minn., old post Office.
Minneapolis, Minn., new post Office.
Muskogee, Okla.
New Haven, Conn., new post office.
St. Paul, Minn., post office.
Seattle, Wash.
Spokane, Wash.
Tacoma, Wash,
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ASSISTANT CUT STO DI.AN-J AN ITOR.
$1800: $1800:
San Francisco appraisers.
$1500 : $1500 :
Kansas City, Mo. IXansas City, Mo.
$1400 : / $1400 :
Milwaukee, Wis., post office. Milwaukee, Wis., post office.
$1200 : $1200:
Brooklyn, N. Y., post office. Brooklyn, N. Y., post office.
0 : $1000 :
Albany, N. Y. Albany, N. Y.
CO]ulmbus, Ohio. Columbus, Ohio.
Nashville, Tenn. Nashville, Tenn.
Toledo, Ohio. Toledo, Ohio.
$900 : $900 :
Austin. TeX. Austin, TeX.
Cheyenne, Wyo.
Richmond, Va. Richlynond, Va.
ASSISTANT CUSTODIAN-ENGINEER.
$1400 : | $1400 :
Salt Lake City, Utah. Salt Lake City, Utah.
The CHAIRMAN. Are the applicants examined?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We have a labor register in New York City that
includes all of the New York districts—New York, Brooklyn, and
Jersey City—and those near-by towns. e
The CHAIRMAN. Are they in the classified service?
Mr. WENDEROTH. It is a sort of semiclassified service. The exami-
nation is only physical, and they are rated according to that. This
refers to laborers and charwomen. All others are in the classified
SePWICe.
The CHAIRMAN. They are appointed according to civil-service
regulations? *
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. Wherever the labor regulations are in
force they are rated according to a physical examination, and the
custodian may only nominate those who are on the eligible list.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice that you have an assistant chief engineer
at $2,500, and you have a chief engineer at $2,500. How is that?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. I can not say, Mr. Chairman. That chief engi-
neer may be in a building with other engineers under him. I can
not say offhand. Those titles have been very much simplified dur-
ing the last two years. Formerly we sometimes had employees with
triple designations.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you do with a marble polisher?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We employ a marble polisher in the New York
customhouse, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they do different work from the ordinary
laborer? w
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. We have 13 of them.
NEW YORK–SUPERVISING CITIEF ENGINEER,
The CHAIRMAN. Over in New York you have a supervising chief
engineer at $2,900; he has charge of all the public buildings in the
district around New York, has he not?
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|
Mr. NEWTON, Yes, sir. . I do not know just how large his district
is, but it takes in everything in that vicinity.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that all he gets?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is all we pay him.
The CHAIRMAN. Does he get anything else?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. I believe he is paid a sum by the Department of
Labor for assisting it in the Supervision of the repairs, etc., at Ellis
Island. He is a skillful engineer.
The CHAIRMAN. There is a provision of the Revised Statutes which
prohibits any person who is receiving as much as $2,500 a year from
receiving more than one salary. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Mr. Fry has supervision of these buildings
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Section 1763 of the Revised Stat-
utes provides that “any person who holds an office the salary or any
compensation attached to which amounts to the sum of $2,500 shall
not receive compensation for discharging the duties of any other
office unless expressly authorized by law.”
Mr. WENDEROTH. I do not know about that. Mr. Fry not only
looks after the repairs and upkeep of those buildings but he super-
intended the remodeling of the New York courthouse, for which
there was an appropriation of $200,000. He was also the superin-
tendent of construction for the barge office, which cost $500,000, and
the marine hospital at Stapleton. In addition, we had him to make
the plans for the ferry slips at the barge office, instead of having
them made here. He is one of the lowest-priced men in the service
for the class of work he performs.
The CHAIRMAN. He superintends the construction work at Ellis
Island 3
Mr. WENDEROTH.. I believe so. He looks after the engineering
personnel in all of the Government buildings in New York City and
he looks after all of the repairs.
The CHAIRMAN. I wondered how it was possible to pay him any
other sum, as he receives $2,900 under this appropriation.
Mr. WENDEROTH. All we know is what we pay him. He is one of
our most skillful men. ſ -
FURNITURE AND REPAIRS TO FURNITURE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for furniture and repairs to fur-
niture. The current appropriation is $850,000 and your estimate is
$1,100,000. What was the unexpended balance in 1913?
Mr. WENDEROTH. For furniture and repairs of furniture, the un-
expended balance for 1913 was $6,936.20.
The CHAIRMAN. Out of $800,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. For the next year, 1914—that is, cor-
rected to December 15, 1914—the unexpended balance was $53,355.88.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you had $900,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. During that year you also had the New York
post office, where you spent $150,000? - -
Mr. WENDEROTH. You gave us a special appropriation of $50,000.
The comptroller construed the law so that certain fittings could not
be paid out of this appropriation.
164 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. You asked for a special appropriation of
$200,000? -
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; and you gave us $50,000. I think we
finally spent about $120,000 out of this appropriation—a total of
$170,000. t
The CHAIRMAN. What other big building did you have?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. Outside of the New York post office, I do not
think we had any other large building. The Washington post office
was not chargeable to this appropriation, nor was the Bureau of
Engraving and Printing. I do not recall that we had any others.
For 1916 we have the buildings at New Orleans, at Denver, and the
San Francisco Subtreasury Building. Of course in 1915 you re-
duced our estimate by $50,000.
The CHAIRMAN. We did not, because you used only $847,000 in
1914, and $100,000 of that was for that special big building in New
York. So you really used $730,000 for 1914, excluding that one big
building.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. In 1913 we expended $793,000. For
1914 we expended $846,000. In 1914 we expended, altogether, as
much as this year's appropriation, although this year we have more
buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. But $120,000 in the 1914 appropriation was a
special item.
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir; it was a special expenditure.
The CHAIRMAN. You expended $120,000 on the New York
building?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And in your estimate you did not contemplate
that at all. You had asked for $950,000 and $250,000 additional,
and we gave you $50,000 of the $250,000. So you spent $200,000
more than you thought you would, and still had $30,000 left.
Mr. WENDEROTH. We were helped by the comptroller's ruling.
This appropriation has been relieved very much, because we now
charge to the buildings proper everything that is built in or that
can possibly be classed as a fixture, but which formerly was charge-
able to this appropriation. Because of that ruling, repairs to these
fixtures are now chargeable to the repair appropriation. That
enabled us during the fiscal year 1914 to take care of the New York
post office. We will have an increased number of buildings in the
fiscal year 1916. We have these three very large buildings, which
altogether will more than equal the New York building.
The CHAIRMAN. My recollection is that you had other big build-
ings besides the one at New York.
Mr. WENDEROTH. I can not think of any others that were con-
spicuously large.
The CHAIRMAN. You asked an appropriation for New York sepa-
rately; but you had some others, I think.
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir. The Washington new post office and
the Bureau of Engraving and Printing furnishings were special
appropriations, because this appropriation was not available in the
District of Columbia. -
The CHAIRMAN. Since you have standardized furniture it does
not cost so much to furnish the buildings, does it?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We now obtain low prices.
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The CHAIRMAN. You do not have the same extravagant expense
for furniture. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. We do not build New York customhouses every
day, and we keep our expenditures down. We will furnish out of
this appropriation this year the Boston customhouse. Those con-
tracts are being let now. That will probably be our largest single
expenditure this year. -
The CHAIRMAN. What other big buildings will you have?
Mr. WENDEROTH. This year—1915?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. WENDEROTH.. I do not think we will have any large buildings,
or not any as large as the New York post office. We will have the
buildings at Minneapolis, Minn.; Muskogee, Okla.; and New Bed-
ford, Mass.; but they are not as large as the ones to be furnished
in 1916. We will then have the New Orleans building, the Denver
building, and the San Francisco subtreasury. I do not believe the
New Haven building will be completed in time to be furnished
in 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you spent for furniture in new buildings
$371,499.98, and that included $120,000 for the New York post office.
Now, that is the amount you estimate you will expend in 1916, or
practically the same, the estimate being $372,500.
Mr. WENDEROTH. It is practically the same.
The CHAIRMAN. Your big item of increase is for furniture for old
buildings. How does it happen that you will spend $365,000 for fur-
niture for old buildings?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Was this after the expiration of two years
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). In 1915 you expended for that
purpose $183,736.58. How much will be expended for that purpose
this year? &
Mr. WENDEROTH. I will have to go back to the hearings of last
year for that.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for purchasing $365,000
worth of furniture for those buildings that are fully furnished now %
Mr. WENDEROTH. Our renewal charge in the old buildings is very
heavy.
The CHAIRMAN. That is an increase of 100 per cent?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Just about. That appropriation is available for
all furniture that is required by the Post Office Department in its old
buildings, and we are carrying on a continual campaign, or, rather, a
policy, of replacing all worn out post-Office furniture, as recom-
mended by the Post Office Department. tº
The CHAIRMAN. For this year you have estimated on expending
$365,000, and in 1913 you èxpended for that purpose $271,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. In fitting up the basements of buildings for
Parcel Post Service there is a great deal of expenditure. As I was
saying, we are continually replacing these old distributing cases, old
Worn-out tables, old desks
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). You did not estimate on expending
anything for lighting fixtures in 1915, did you ?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is the time we asked for a separate ap-
propriation of $300,000. *
The CHAIRMAN. But you did not get it.
Mr. WENDEROTH. No, sir.
166 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. For this year you estimate $372,500 for furniture
in new buildings, so that this new building furniture runs along
about the same, regardless of the size of the buildings or the number.
Mr. WENDEROTII. It runs along about the same. One year we may
have one conspicuously large building and the next year we may have
a half a dozen smaller buildings. Then, in the following year we
may have 25 buildings that are somewhat smaller. But taking it
year by year, the equipment of new buildings averages nearly the
same. We are placing under contract $7,000,000 worth of buildings
each year. This means a more or less fixed bulk of buildings to be
furnished.
The CHAIRMAN. It is not possible that we ought to need an ex-
penditure of a third of a million dollars a year' for replacing fur-
niture in those buildings. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. We are replacing worn-out equipment. The ex-
penditures on old buildings include the new furniture in extensions.
The CHAIRMAN. That does not include repairs, nor carpets, nor
linoleum, but that is for furniture alone.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. It covers filing cases; wooden and
metal filing cases for clerks of courts and various other branches of
the service. We have in these buildings a great many offices that
require additional filing equipment and the replacing of worn-out
furniture. There is a great deal of worn-out furniture to be re-
placed in the post-office workrooms, and we must give the Post Office
Department additional furniture as they spread out. *
The CHAIRMAN. The great bulk of the public buildings were put
up in the last few years?
Mr. WENDEROTH. In the last 30 years.
The CHAIRMAN. In the last 10 years we put up as many as in all
the rest of the Government's history. r
Mr. WENDEROTH. Since the public buildings act of 1902?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. WENDEROTH. That may be.
The CHAIRMAN. And we made lavish expenditures to furnish
them. It ought not to cost $370,000 a year to keep that furniture up.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Mr. Chairman, the older buildings are becoming
crowded as more and more officials of the various branches of the
public service are assigned to them. This means a constant ex-
penditure for additional equipment. Not only that, but when we
place a new building in commission, if the Government owns any
furniture in the city that can be repaired and fixed up and trans-
ferred, we do that. We think we manage that appropriation with
very great economy. Of course, everything is subjected to extremely
hard usage, especially the post-office furniture.
The CHAIRMAN. The lighting fixtures in the buildings cost about
40 per cent of the furniture. Is not that pretty high—$148,000
for lighting fixtures? Does that cover fixtures like these [indi-
cating] }
Mr. WENDEROTH. From the ceiling down.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they have fixtures like those in the new Wash-
ington post office? *
Mr. WENDEROTH. We have not been fortunate enough to obtain
that class of fixtures everywhere. I think the inside fixtures in that
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 167
building are very handsome, but I would not say as much for the
outside ones.
The CHAIRMAN. We have purchased over $7,000,000 worth of fur-
Initure in 10 years.
Mr. WENDEROTH... I should not wonder at all.
The CHAIRMAN. I would. * *
Mr. WENDEROTH. If you erect buildings, you must furnish them
and place them in operation. Our post-office furniture, while it is
all standardized, is very heavy furniture, and must stand hard usage.
We do not buy flimsy stock stuff, and we do not authorize a cus-
todian to drop a piece of furniture until we are convinced that it is
beyond repair. Everything is used as long as it will possibly give
us any service.
- OPERATING SUPPLIES.
The CHAIRMAN. For operating supplies your estimate is $1,750,000,
and the current appropriation is $1,625,000. What was the un-
expended balance in 1913?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The appropriation in 1913 was $1,550,000, and
the unexpended balance was $99,200. In 1914 the appropriation
was $1,600,000, and the unexpended balance was $112,000. In 1915,
the appropriation is $1,625,000, and our expenditures and liabilities
up to December 15, 1914, amount to $1,524,469.56, leaving us an un-
emcumbered balance for the remaining six months of $100,530.44.
The CHAIRMAN. That is over and above everything you can figure
out to expend
Mr. WENDEROTH (interposing). No, sir; but, of course, in that
$1,500,000 is probably included all of the contracts for this winter’s
supply of coal. By December 15 that will be taken care of, and
the balance is for things that we order monthly, for light bills, etc.
We expect to have in the fiscal year 1916 a rather heavy laundry bill,
The CHAIRMAN. Not $100,000, though?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Oh, no. It is because of an order of the Secre-
tary of the Treasury dated October 11, 1913, based on an Executive
order of September 30, 1913:
It is hereby ordered in the interest of the public health that the use of roller
towels and other towels intended for use by more than one person be discon-
tinued in the public buildings of the United States.
We wash all of the towels in these 850 Treasury Department build-
ings. Instead of washing a roller towel used by several employees
we will now wash all the hand towels. We only furnish the towels to
our own custodian force, but as rapidly as the Post Office Depart-
ment and the Agricultural Department and the other departments
having space in our buildings supply their employees with an allow-
ance of hand towels, we must wash them as well, no matter how many
there are.
The CHAIRMAN. You expended in 1914 $52,000 more than you ex-
pended in 1913, and you had a balance of $112,000 in 1914, and for
1915 you have $137,000 more than you expended in 1914, and if
we gave you $125,000 you would have $262,000 for 1916 more than
you expended in 1914. It would take a good many hand towels to
make up that difference.
168 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is only one element of it, Mr. Chairman.
This shows the statement of expenditures for 1913 to 1914, an in-
crease of about $30,000. In an appropriation of this kind we never
really know and can never really tell what our expenditures may be.
Take the matter of coal. I found, for instance, that we were buying
coal by the ton and having it delivered by the ton, and frequently
we could not get coal when we wanted it. We would buy it prob-
ably in the winter when the price was perhaps at the highest. We
have arranged now to make our purchase of coal for the bulk of
the year's supply during the Summer or fall in the off season and
store as much as we think it safe.
If we use bituminous coal, the amount we may store is limited,
because there is danger of spontaneous combustion. We do that and
that carries us for a certain number of months. If it is an open
winter it may happen that we will not need any more coal. If it is
a hard winter, we may be called on suddenly for a large supply of
coal all over the United States, and we must hold out enough to take
care of that. In all these appropriations, as I have said, Mr. Chair-
man, it is not the balance that remains which indicates our needs so
much as the increase in expenditures from year to year and the ne-
cessity of having some leeway. I can not prove to you that for
operating supplies for 1916 we will need $1,750,000. It represents
our best judgment.
& FUEI,.
The CHAIRMAN. You spend about a half a million dollars a year
for fuel ?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you buy coal on the British termal unit?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you buy it that way all over the United
States?
Mr. WENDEROTH. All over the United States. The contractor
must submit a certified check which we hold and he offers us coal
at so much a ton which will develop so many British thermal units,
and there is also something about the ashes, etc. Samples are taken
out and tested, and if it does not come up to the requirements we
penalize him and take it out of his certified check. When his con-
tract expires we return to him what is left of his deposit. That is
all done very carefully. We purchase anthracite coal, bituminous
coal, fuel oil, and lignite for heating purposes, and I believe some
natural gas, but I am not quite sure about that.
LAUNDRY BII.I.S.
The CHAIRMAN. You said you expected your laundry bills to be
very excessive next year?
Mr. WENDEROTH. This statement shows between 1914 and 1916 a
difference of $10,000.
The CHAIRMAN. When does that Executive order go into effect?
Mr. WENDEROTH. It went into effect in 1913. It was signed at the
White House September 30, and transmitted by the Secretary of
the Treasury October 11, 1913, with this order:
In accordance with the foregoing the use of roller towels in the public build-
ings of the United States under the Treasury Department will be discontinued
immediately. W. G. McAdoo, Secretary.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 169
The CHAIRMAN. In your estimate for next year you contemplate
spending $30,000?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is a guess, Mr. Chairman. We do not
know.
The CHAIRMAN. You estimate for the current year you will spend
$32,000, so you are not expecting a very large increase in that item
over the current year.
Mr. WENDEROTH. We do not know what we will spend this year.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what your estimate shows and would in-
dicate you are not figuring on a very large increase.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir; these operating costs of ours are not
analyzed the way they should be. There never has been any attempt
to do it and adequate records do not exist. We operate in a territory.
of over 3,000,000 square miles and conditions fluctuate. We have
buildings of all kinds, and unless we could—and I think we should—
inaugurate a very careful cost-keeping system, it is extremely diffi-
cult to justify any of these estimates. We may merely state, on the
basis of the experience of previous years and the number of buildings
to be placed in commission, that we believe we should have so much.
I am not in position to prove any of the estimates.
ELECTRIC CURRENT FOR LIG FIT AND POWER.
The CHAIRMAN. You spent about $500,000 for electric current,
light, and power purposes. Do we generate or purchase our own
electric current?
Mr. WENDEROTH. We purchase the bulk of it. We have a few -
generating plants, but in the bulk of our buildings, Mr. Chairman,
We do not consume enough current to make it pay to generate it.
Generating plants are now in operation in the following buildings:
BOStOn, Mass., post Office and subtreasury.
Philadelphia, Pa., post office and courthouse.
Philadelphia, Pa., Mint Building.
Baltimore, Md., post Office and courthouse.
New Orleans, Ila., customlhouse.
Kansas City, MO., post Office alld Courthouse.
St. Louis, Mo., post office and courthouse.
Chicago, Ill., post Office and Courthouse.
San Francisco, Cal., post office and courthouse.
Pittsburgh, Pa., post office.
Cincinnati, Ohio, post office and Courthouse. *
Washington, D. C., Bureau of Engraving and Printing. d
The installation of generating plants in other buildings is not
under contemplation. g g
IROOKLYN, N. Y., ELECTRIC CURRENT.
The CHAIRMAN. For instance, take a building like the one in Brook-
Jyn. We used to generate it there and now we buy it. Have you
111ade any saving?
Mr. WENDEROTII. Yes, sir. I do not know what the saving is, but
I know that we make a saving. I remember that Mr. Thompson
fought it to the last ditch and finally threw up his hands and said,
“I can not figure against them any more.”
h Th; CHAIRMAN. What do we pay, 2 cents or 24 cents per kilowatt
OUII .*
170 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
ſ
Mr. WENDEROTII. I could not tell you without looking it up.
The CHAIRMAN. I wish you would put the exact figures in the
record. My recollection is that a proceeding has been commenced
before the public service commission of the first district of New
York on behalf of a private consumer who is charged 10 cents a
kilowatt hour, and his complaint is that this is an undue discrimina-
tion in favor of the Government. I do not know whether the matter
was ever determined or not. I know that the Electric Light Co. was
compelled to produce its contract with the Government. Suppose
the public service commission determines you have to pay the same
as any private consumer ?
RE CONTRACT WITH T2ROOK.I., YN EI) IS()N CO. FOR SU Pl’I, Y OF STEAM A NI) li. I, ECTRI ('
e CURRENT.
The full data on this subject are set forth in the hearings on Sundry civil
bill for 1915. Mennorandla in regard to the matter dated July 18, 1913.
Steam is supplied by the Brooklyn Edison Co. from a boiler house across the
street. The current is supplied from the company’s large cell fra] station.
The arrangement is working out satisfactorily for both parties to the contract.
The total cost of Operating the plant for eight months under the system of
purchasing steam and electricity from the Brooklyn Edison Co. is $18,239.62;
and for a corresponding period of eight months when the building plant was
operated by the Government the cost was $23,106.93 ; a difference of $4,867.
which, prorated for 12 months, gives an annual saving of $7,296.
The Government sold steam to the Pneumatic Service Co. when the building
plant was Operated and now furnishes said connl)any with stealm. This
amounted in the eight months’ period, in each Case, to $4,225, making the net
Cost of operating the plant under the system of purchasing service from the
Brooklyn Edison Co., for eight months, $13,984.62. This sum includes labor,
Supplies, cost of electric current, and all steam used. w
NO information indicates that the Public Service Connnnission of New York
has objected to the rates for current and steam offered by the Prooklyn
Edison CO.
Mr. WENDEROTH. The public-service commission of the first dis-
trict of New York has no more jurisdiction over what the Govern-
ment pays *
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). It has, though, over what the elec-
tric-light company shall sell for. It can prevent them selling to you
at less than it will sell to any private consumer. If they hold that is
a reasonable rate, they can not sell to you at less than they can sell
to a private consumer, and they must equalize their rates.
Mr. NEWTON. Is not their rate to the city different from their rate
to private consumers?
The CHAIRMAN. I do not know. I know this particular question
was raised.
• Mr. WENDEROTH. They have no more control than if we were in
Connecticut |
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Yes; they have.
Mr. WENDEROTH (continuing). And the Edison company ran a line
across the border. We asked the New York Edison Co. to group
together all our buildings in New York City—the customhouse, the
barge office, the appraisers’ store, Subtreasury, and the assay office—to
consider us as one customer and give us a rate on the total. They
stated that they feared the action of the public-service commission.
We pointed out to them that the property of the United States was
extraterritorial, and the public-Service commission had no authority
to scrutinize the rates.
The CHAIRMAN. You are mistaken about that.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 171
Mr. WINDEROTH. No, sir. They took it up with their attorneys
. The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I do not care about that. They
declined to furnish the information, and the public service com-
mission directed them to produce the contract. They are a public
utilities company, under the jurisdiction of that commission, and they
have the right to inquire into their rates. They can not sell to the
United States at Such a rate as to compel them to charge the ordi-
nary consumer more in order to justify the rate they sell to the Gov-
ernment. There is not any doubt about that. They have no con-
trol over the Government, but they have over the electric-light
Company. O
Mr. WENDEROTEI. That may be. When we made our argument
they came back and said that their attorneys told them it would be
a rather poor precedent; that other, consumers whose plants were
Scattered over the city would ask for the same grouping together
of the various buildings, and each would want to be considered as
a single customer. That is what they told us they were afraid of,
and not the other proposition.
SALE OF STEAM FOR PNEU MATIC TUBES.
The CHAIRMAN. During the fiscal year 1915 you requested this
same authority to furnish steam for the operation of pneumatic
tubes of the Postal Service and to reimburse your appropriation?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is a permanent need, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you keep any account of that? How much,
for instance, did you get in 1914?
Mr. WENDEROTH. I would have to find out.
The CHAIRMAN. Give us the figures for several years—1912, 1913,
and 1914—together with the places.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any other place except New York where
that is done? *
Mr. WENDEROTH. I can not say offhand.
The CHAIRMAN. If there are any other places, give us that infor-
mation also.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
Statement showing the (Umount Of repayments to 170 l'ious (ºppº'Op)"iſtlions for the
fiscal years 1912, 1913, fund 1914 on account of Steam furnished the American
Pneumatic Service Co. by the public buildings listed.
Fiscal year 1912. fiscal year 1913. Fiscal year 1914.
Pay of
Building. i. dºis Operating | Operating | Operating Operating
and water | and jani supplies force for supplies force for
for public jºOT § public for public | public
§ public buildings. buildings. buildings. |buildings.
buildings.
Boston, Mass., Subtreasury. . . . . . . . . . . $3,661. 42 $1,749.98 || $3,923.54 || $1,750.06 || $3,893. 52 $1,750.08
Brooklyn, N. Y., courthouse and post
office------------------------------- 4,563.36 2,508.00 || 4,446.24 2,508.00 || 3,789. 28 2,508.00
New York, N. Y., courthouse and *
post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,555.66 2,640.00 2,531. 59 || 2,640.00 2,981.94 2,640.00
Chicago, Ill., courthouse and post
office----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,416.00 2,256.00 || 4,548.84 2,256.00 4,433.76 2,256.00
St. Louis, Mo., customhouse. . . . . . . . . 2,096.56 1,596.00 2,208.34 1,596.00 | 1,064.08 1,596.00
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22,293.00 | 10,749.98 || 17,658. 55 10,750.06 || 17,062.58 || 10,750.08


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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The amount of steam sold is determined by means of accurate steam-flow me-
ters, which are checked by condensation weights in the pneumatic-tube engines.
The cost of steam is worked out for each building, and it includes labor, coal,
repairs, and interest and depreciation on that part of boiler plant used to
supply steam to the tube engines.
•
SALAMANCA, N. Y., GROUND RENT.
The CHAIRMAN. “For annual ground rent of the Federal building
site at Salamanca, N. Y., on account of Indian leases, $7.50.” That
is an annual rental?
Mr. WENDEROTH. That we will submit every year until 1991, Mr.
Chairman. ; :
Mr. MoRDELL. Was that a 100-year lease?
Mr. WENDEROTH. It commenced February, 1915, and expires Jan-
uary, 1991. It commenced when we took title to the site, in so far as
we are concerned. -
Mr. MoRDELL. The acquisition of the site was subject to this
ground rent?


“continuing resolutions” on the basis of the prior year's appropriations.
Statement of amounts estimated and appropriated on account of the annual
appropriations under the control of the Supervising Architect, together with
the amount of encumbrances and balances available thereunder.
REPAIRS AND PRESERVATION.
tº * - . Balances
* - * Appropria- Expenditures
Fiscal year. Estimates.l H. a.º.º. (unencum-
bered).2
1910------------------------------------ $600,000.00 $550,000.00 $543,652.83 $6,347.17
1911------------------------------------ 700,000.00 600,000.00 589,816. 28 10, 183.72
1912.----------------------------------- 600,000.00 600,000.00 584, 172.05 15,827.95
1913------------------------------------ 650,000.00 625,000.00 618,642.92 6,357.08
1914------------------------------------ 725,000.00 725,000.00 721,523.90 3,476. 10
1915.----------------------------------- 745,000.00 725,000.00 363,114.92 361,885.08
MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
1910------------------------------------ $450,000.00 $400,000.00 $392,097. 72 $7,902. 28
1911------------------------------------ 465,000.00 425,000.00 404,325.36 20,674.64
1912------------------------------------ 425,000.00 425,000.00 421,455.56 3, 544. 44
1913------------------------------------ 465,000.00 440,000.00 433,429.17 6,570.83
1914------------------------------------ 450,000.00 440,000.00 437,730. 14 2,269.86
1915.----------------------------------- 536,500.00 445,000.00 221,356.91 223,643.09
VAULTS AND SAIFES.
\
1910. ----------------------------------- $105,000.00 $100,000.00 $96,946.71 $3,053.29
1911------------------------------------ 85,000.00 85,000.00 84,044. 53 955.47
1912------------------------------------ 90,000.00 90,000.00 88,401.04 1,598.96
1913-...--------------------------------- 90,000.00 90,000.00 89,695.46 304.54
1914------------------------------------ 110,000.00 100,000.00 99,762.83 237. 17
1915------------------------------------ 110,000.00 100,000.00 31,778.45 68,221.55
GENERAL, EXPENSES.
1910. ----------------------------------- $1,100,000.00 $1,100,000.00 || $1,061,844.54 $38,155.46
1911------------------------------------ 950,578.00 950,578.00 950, 066.33 511. 67
1912------------------------------------ 800,000.00 800,000.00 786,958. 30 13,041.70
1913------------------------------------ 514,000.00 3 673,561.93 648,579.31 24,982.62
1914------------------------------------ 576,450.00 4.550, 132.37 542, 163.00 7,969. 37
1915------------------------------------ 563,560.00 5 572,927.63 208,034.47 364,893. 16
1 Includes deficiencies.
2 The amounts stated in this column for 1910, 1911, 1912, represents the amounts sent to surplus fund;
for 1913, 1914, and 1915 represent the amounts taken from the records as of December 1, 1914.
3 Amount actually appropriated, $656,920, the difference, $16,641.93, due to amounts expended under
4 This amount is decreased by $9,367.63, being the balance of the $30,000 appropriated for site agents,
and transferred to the subsequent year.
* This amount increased by $9,367.63, which is accounted for under (4).
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
173
Statement of a mounts estimated and appropriated. On account of the annual
appropriations under the control of the Supervising Architect, etc.—Contd.
ARCHITECTURAL COMPETITIONS.

& º Balances
g e Appropria- || Expenditures
Fiscal year. Estimates. tions. anjabilities. (unemºm-
bered).
1913------------------------------------ $175,000.00 $175,000.00 $68,116.36 || $106,883.64
1914------------------------------------ Reappropriated. 106,883.64 49,825.36 57,058.28
1915------------------------------------|----- O - - - - - - - - - - 57,058.28 11, 133.53 45,924.75
OPERATING FORCE.
1910------------------------------------ $1,902,388.00 $1,902,000.00 $1,746,817.90 $155, 182.10
1911------------------------------------ 2,400,000.00 2,400,000.00 1,927, 121.89 472,878. 11
1912------------------------------------ 2,500, G00.00 2,500,000.00 2, 124,748.88 375,251. 12
1913------------------------------------ 2,570,000.00 2,500,000.00 || 2,406,346. 16 93,653.84
1914------------------------------------ 2,650,000.00 2,575,000.00 2,486,608. 73 88,391.27
1915------------------------------------ 2,700,000.00 2,650,000.00 2,650,374.72 1 374. 72
FURNITURE AND REPAIRS.
1910------------------------------------ $1,117,500.00 $993,000.00 $973,345.91. $17,654.09
1911------------------------------------ 880,000.00 880,000.00 856,464.91 23,535.09
1912------------------------------------ 700,000.00 700,000.00 697,415.76 2,584. 24
1913------------------------------------ 900,000.00 800,000.00 793,063.80 6,936. 20
1914------------------------------------ 950,000.00 900,000.00 846,644. 12 53,355.88
1915------------------------------------ 1,000,000.00 850,000.00 384, 110.81 465,889. 19
OPERATING SUPPLIES.
1910------------------------------------ $1,450,000.00 $1,450,000.00 || $1,413,703. 62 $36,295.38
1911------------------------------------ 1,550,000.00 1,550,000.00 1,414, 759. 12 135,240.88
1912------------------------------------ 1,600,000.00 1,600,000.00 1,539,449.79 60,550.21
1913------------------------------------ 1,600,000.00 1,550,000.00 1,450,800.00 99, 200.00
1914------------------------------------ 1,700,000.00 1,600,000.00 | 1,488,000.00 112,000.00
1915--------------------. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1,750,000.00 1,625,000.00 1,524,469.56 100,530.44


* On Dec. 1, on the basis of an estimate sufficient to carry the current force at the buildings for the
balance of the fiscal year, an apparent deficiency appears in this amount. his appropriation, as well as
Operating Supplies, receives the benefit of repayments on account of Pneumatic '. ube Service.
This
appropriation is solely for salaries on account of which there are considerable lapses, due to loss of time,
etc., on the part of the employees.
MoWDAY, DECEMBER 28, 1914.
INCREASING BOILER CAPACITY, AUDITORs' BUILDING (OLD BUREAU OF
ENGRAVING AND PRINTING).
[See p. 87.]
STATEMENTS OF MR. JOSEPH E, RALPH, DIRECTOR OF THE
BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING; MR. FRANK E.
FERGUSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR; MR. NELSON. S. THOMP-
SON, SUPERINTENDENT MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DIVI-
SION; AND MR. OSCAR WENDEROTH, SUPERVISING ARCHI-
TECT,
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Ralph, you have an estimate for the Bureau
of Engraving and Printing, for increasing the boiler capacity of the
boiler plant in the old building for the Bureau of Engraving and
Printing, including necessary piping, changes in breeching, the in-
174 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
stallation of coal bunkers, and other changes incident thereto,
$25,000. .
Mr. WENDEROTH. Mr. Chairman, I have asked Director Ralph and
Mr. Thompson to come down about that item. They can explain it
very much better than I can.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you need any more bunkers or boilers or
anything else in this old building?
Mr. RALPH. It was anticipated that the central power plant would
be in operation by this time. All I can say is that we are purchas-
ing power from the Potomac Power & Light Co. which is costing us
considerable money because of the inadequacy of our plant.
The CHAIRMAN. How much a year are you paying? -
Mr. RALPH. From July to November, 1914, 180,170 kilowatts, at
practically 3 cents per kilowatt, $6,030.80.
The CHAIRMAN. Covering what period?
Mr. RALPH. From July to November, a little over four months.
The cost of manufacturing electric current at the bureau power plant
during the fiscal year was 0.0108 cent per kilowatt.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you include in your cost?
Mr. RALPH. We include the labor, coal, depreciation, and over-
head charges. At this rate the quantity of current purchased would
have cost the Government $1,945.84, whereas we paid $6,030.80.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you propose to put in that old building?
Mr. RALPH. Previous to the installation of the two new 500-horse-
power boilers we had seven boilers in all, with a rated normal ca-
pacity of 1,250 horsepower. The two new 500-horsepower boilers
replaced four old ones aggregating 500 horsepower, so that the plant
was increased to 1,750 horsepower, or a net increase over the old
plant of 500 horsepower. The two generators have a rating of 1,304
amperes each, or 2,608 amperes total. By forcing we can get 40 to
50 per cent more than this, with everything on and working right.
On December 17, during the recent cold spell, we were carrying a
steam load of 2,000 horsepower on the boilers, with one of them out
of Service, being repaired, and at the same time we had an electric
load of 2,840 amperes, 840 amperes of which we were taking from
the Potomac Co., for the reason that we could not furnish any more
steam. We burned upward of 58 tons of coal this day, and the out-
door temperature was, I should judge, around 20° F. This was a
bright day out of doors, and we required little light in the building.
On October 5, a dark day, our lighting load at times was a total
of 3,550 amperes, 1,350 amperes of which we got from the Potomac
Co. (Their service is only good for about 1,700 amperes continually.)
Had the conditions of heat and light both been bad on the same
day, any trouble in our plant by breaking grates, etc., would have
been serious and would have caused a partial shutdown. º
By careful watching and hard work we can get through this winter
all right without something unforeseen occurs. The natural increase
in power required will make it inadvisable to attempt to get through
another winter without more boiler power. - * -
When the present 500 horsepower increase in boilers was planned
it was contemplated that the new central heating, light, and power
plant authorized by Congress would be in operation by the fall of
1915. Also the new building was not yet contemplated, and we
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could only approximate the power that would be required. (These
estimates have proved to be very accurate.)
The best information we had at that time was that the old bureau
building was to be torn down, hence that we would not be called upon
to furnish heat for it. -
At the time the estimates were made the Separate Recovery Co.
was cleansing our printer’s wiping cloths. Due to the fact that this
company went into the hands of a receiver this work was thrown
back on us, which greatly increased the consumption of steam in the
rag laundry.
More presses are being installed right along, and this natural
increase between now and next October will, added to what we now
have, be more than we can carry With safety on our present plant.
The three old boilers have been in service many years. A few days
ago a Hawley drum on boiler No. 2 cracked. A new drum was
installed and the old one was found to be crystalized, due to the
long-continued action of heat. The others have been in service the
same length of time as this one and no doubt sooner or later more of
these will have to be replaced. The laying off of one boiler to do this
work would at a critical time seriously cripple us.
It is therefore very advisable that another boiler be added to our
present plant, in order to tide us over until such time as the new
plant is in operation.
The CHAIRMAN. In the first place, it was never proposed, either by
you or by this committee, that the old Bureau of Engraving Build-
ing would be torn down, because you had taken a big portion of it
for yourself. -
Mr. RALPH. It was the plan of the so-called
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). It was the plan of some art com-
mission, but you contemplated using a part of it and we ousted you
from it. -
Mr. RALPII. No; I gave up all the old building, Mr. Fitzgerald.
The CHAIRMAN. You had a whole lot of it, and we put you out and
put in the Treasury Department auditors and other officials. In the
second place, from the 1st of July, you were working night and day
up until what time? #"
Mr. RALPH. From the 3d of August until the 15th of November.
The CHAIRMAN. How many hours were you working each day?
Mr. RALPII. Twenty-four hours a day. -
The CHAIRMAN. So that you were working three shifts instead of
one and supplying light, heat, and power?
Mr. RALPH. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Therefore your coal bill ran up very high for
those three months?
Mr. RALPH. That was a necessity.
The CHAIRMAN. You have a lot of boilers that will have to be
replaced in a short time, too, have you not?
Mr. RALPII. I would say two of them.
The CHAIRMAN. So far as I am concerned, they will never put a
boiler in any of those buildings until they build this central power
and heating plant. That is my attitude.
Mr. RALPH. Do not lose sight of the fact that while we worked
day and night all the power used at night was purchased from the
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Potomac Light & Power Co., and it was very fortunate for the Gov-
ernment that we could operate the plant at that time.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is it since we authorized the central
heating and power plant? - •
Mr. WENDEROTH. It was authorized in June, 1913.
The CHAIRMAN. Have the plans been prepared yet?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. They are approaching completion now.
The CHAIRMAN. The necessity will hasten them.
Mr. RALPH. If you have that plant by one year hence I will be
satisfied, but if you do not, I am very confident you are going to be
embarrassed.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is your plan—to put in one new boiler in
place of the old ones?
Mr. THOMPSON. No; to put in one entirely new boiler.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have you?
Mr. THOMPSON. We have six boilers now, aggregating 1,750 horse-
power.
Mr. MoRDELL. Have you room for the new boiler?
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes, sir. We will have to encroach upon the
plumbing shop to put this boiler in. It was brought about mainly
from the fact that in making up this estimate for the two new boilers
which you gave us we thought the contract with this company which
cleans the printers’ rags would continue in force; but they went into
the hands of a receiver, and now that work has to be done down
there, and the additional laundry load is about 400 horsepower.
The CHAIRMAN. You put in two new boilers to take care of them
until the new plant was put in §
Mr. THOMPSON. We fell down on that, on account of these laundry
people going back on their contract. You gave us everything we
asked for. *
The CHAIRMAN. And now you want two more boilers?
Mr. THOMPson. One more.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you going to pay $25,000 for one boiler?
Mr. THOMPSON. For one 500-horsepower boiler.
The CHAIRMAN. And then when the new plant is finished they
will all be scrapped' {{
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes; when the new plant gets to going.
Mr. MoRDELL. You anticipate no use for these boilers after the
new plant is in operation?
Mr. THOMPSON. No; they are figuring on 1,000 horsepower units
in the new plant, and these boilers would not be suitable at all.
They would not fit in.
Mr. MoRDELL. They would not fit in as auxiliaries?
Mr. THOMPSON. No, sir; they would be scrapped.
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not anticipate as large a volume of work
the coming year as you had last year, do you?
Mr. RALPII. The current work will be a little larger than last year.
Of course, we had emergency currency and the Federal reserve notes
to print. If this war continues, we can not foresee what might oc-
cur, in the way of additional printing of Federal reserve notes par-
ticularly.
The CHAIRMAN. Of course, that will be paid by the reserve banks.
Mr. MoW DELL. You might have to print some bonds?
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Mr. RALPH. Yes; the war-revenue tax, the documentary, proprie-
tary, and wine stamps is quite a job in itself. . If it takes two years
to complete this power plant you will have expended $25,000 for
power to the Potomac Light & Power Co.
The CHAIRMAN. If it takes as long to put in this boiler in propor-
tion as it has to build a central power and heating plant your central
power and heating plant will be finished before they get the boiler in.
Mr. THOMPSON. This boiler will not help you out on buying power
from the Potomac Co. -
Mr. RALPH. We will have to buy that much more.
Mr. THOMPSON. I do not see that, because you will have to buy
from them anyhow.
Mr. MoRDELL. Assuming that you are compelled to expend as
much as you would expend for this new boiler in the next two years,
and at the end of that period the boiler is scrapped, we gain nothing.
Mr. WENDEROTH. You would be safeguarded in case one of the
present boilers broke down.
Mr. THOMPSON. This is a question of getting steam for industrial
purposes and heating the building. It is entirely independent of
power. We do not want to increase that much.
MoRDAY, December 28, 1914.
FIYGIENIC LABORATORY-REAPPROPRIATION FOR BUILDINGS, FITTINGS,
- AND GROUNDS.
STATEMENTS OF SURG. JOHN F. ANDERSON, DIRECTOR HYGIENIC
LABORATORY, AND MR. OSCAR WENDEROTH, SUPERWISING
ARCHITECT.
The CHAIRMAN. “The unexpended balances of the appropriations
for hygienic laboratory, Public Health and Marine-Hospital Service
(grading and retaining wall), and building Hygienic Laboratory
(additional building for research work, disinfection, experiments,
and housing animals), aggregating $6,426.19, are hereby reappropri-
ated and made available for buildings, fittings, and grounds.”
What is this?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Mr. Chairman, we had two appropriations, one
was $15,000, in the act of June 25, 1910, for grading and retaining
wall at the Hygienic Laboratory; the other was $25,000, in the act
of June 23, 1913, for an additional building for research work at the
Hygienic Laboratory. We were able to take care of the grading and
the retaining wall within the appropriation, but found the limit of
cost for the building not as large as it should have been, and there
has been no appropriation for certain fittings and equipment that are
needed. We find, if you approve and will reappropriate that bal-
{\]]Ce * -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Where is that balance?
Mr. WENDEROTH. The balance is $6,426.19.
The CHAIRMAN. In what appropriation?
Mr. WENDEROTII. That is the balance in both.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the balance in each appropriation ?
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Mr. WENDEROTH, I could not tell you the exact figures. -
Dr. ANDERSON. $153.96 is the balance in the appropriation for the
building.
Mr. WENDEROTH. And the rest is from the other appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. $6,272 is the balance in the appropriation for the
grading and the retaining wall, and you want us to give you the bal-
ance in that appropriation for the building?
Mr. WENDEROTH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That would make the building cost $31,200.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Including the equipment; yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? The estimate of $25,000 for the animal
àotel was here for four or five years, and in that time they ought
to have been able to have gotten the estimate correct.
Mr. WENDEROTH. Mr. Chairman, there has been nothing wasted
bn that building; and within that limit of cost we can put on a flat
roof, which would be more or less of a temporary roof.
The CHAIRMAN. Why should it be temporary? There has been a
flat roof on every house I ever lived in.
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is not the character of roof we would like
to have on it. •
The CHAIRMAN. Why can you not put a flat roof on this building?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. Of course, we can put a flat roof on the building.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean one that will be permanent. Why is a
flat roof temporary'
Mr. WENDEROTH. I did not mean that.
The CHAIRMAN. You said that. You said it would be more or less
temporary. *
Mr. WENDEROTH. The character of the construction would be more
or less temporary.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? >
Mr. WENDEROTH. The balance is not sufficient. The building
would be complete, of course.
The CHAIRMAN. It will not be complete if there is a temporary
roof on it or if it is temporary construction.
Dr. ANDERSON. May I say a word, Mr. Chairman 7
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Dr. ANDERSON. When the architect’s office drew the plans for the
building I suggested to them that in view of the possibility of the
increased growth of the laboratory that would come in the future
it would be well to arrange the building so that at any time an ad-
(litional story could be placed on the building without any serious
structural changes being involved. That was done. What con-
stitutes the roof of the building as originally planned is a flat roof
with a cement slab at the top. We found by the time the building
would be occupied that the work of the laboratory has increased, as
you know from the other estimates that have come before you, very
much. - º
The CHAIRMAN. This building is to house animals?
Dr. ANDERSON. It is to house animals and for research work in
addition. It has certain laboratory space in it. There are a number
of rooms put aside for the study of certain diseases that it certainly
would not be safe to have in the same building where we have 75 or
80 people working constantly right next to these animals affected
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with various infectious diseases. The appropriation for the build-
ing did not provide anything for fittings, and the bid that was ac-
cepted for the construction of the building left out of consideration
the electric-light fittings, the screens for the building, the work-
benches necessary, the animal cages, and they are things which, of
course, will be necessary when the building is once occupied.
The CHAIRMAN. This money was appropriated for the building
and the building was to be completed for this amount? *.
Dr. ANDERSON. For the $25,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Dr. ANDERSON. I think there were some 16 bids, were there not,
Mr. Wenderoth Ž
Mr. WENDEROTH.. I do not recall.
Dr. ANDERSON. Quite a large number, and this was the lowest bid
of all.
The CHAIRMAN. You should have designed a building that could
have been fitted up for that amount.
Dr. ANDERSON. I quite agree with you that it would have been
desirable to have done that.
The CHAIRMAN. If Congress decides a building shall be erected at
a certain cost, it is somebody’s business to see that that is done.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do I understand that if this money is reappropri-
ated it will be used for the changing of the roof or for the fittings
and furnishings, etc.?
Mr. WENDEROTEI. For both.
Dr. ANDERSON. I think, as a matter of fact, something like $600 is
to be used for the change in the roof and the remainder will go into
the fittings and equipment of the building.
Mr. MoRDELL. And I assume you must have that in order to use the
building? •
Dr. ANDERSON. That is my understanding of it.
The CHAIRMAN. You must have what?
Dr. ANDERSON. The fittings and furnishings and equipment of the
building. -
The CHAIRMAN. What do you propose to put in the building with
this money and how much is it going to cost? -
Dr. ANDERSON. We will have to have screens.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you estimated for them?
Dr. ANDERSON. Yes, sir; $300.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much for your electrical fittings?
Dr. ANDERSON. About $900 is the estimate of the Superintendent of
construction. -
Mr. WENDEROTH. That is for the fixtures and not for the conduits
or wiring. The latter are already in and are a part of the building.
Dr. ANDERSON. And $1,200 for the animal cages in which are kept
the animals. - º
The CHAIRMAN. What are you going to do with the cages you now
have?
Dr. ANDERSON. The cages in the old building are Wooden cages
that can not be taken out. They are built into the building.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of cages are you going to put in §
Dr. ANDERSON. Cages with galvanized-iron uprights with wooden
floors in them; and then comes the question of the feed bins to keep
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the food for the animals in, the workbenches necessary in the build-
ing, certain equipment in the carpenter shop which is necessary, and
I estimate that all of that will cost about $3,560.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a carpenter shop'
Dr. ANDERSON. We have a carpenter at the present time, and he
Works in the old animal house.
The CHAIRMAN. What equipment does he need that he has not
got now %
Dr. ANDERSON. At the present time he has to do everything by
hand labor; and he needs a saw and lathe, which costs about $500.
This will be money well expended, because it is a labor-saving device.
The CHAIRMAN. What does this carpenter do?
Dr. ANDERSON. He makes a great deal of apparatus. He makes
all of our cases. There is not a workbench in the present building
that was not made by this carpenter. He also makes our cabinets
to keep apparatus in, and any special apparatus required is made by
him. All those things are made by the carpenter without going out
and getting bids for them, and they are made more economically and
made just to suit our needs.
Mr. MONDELL. I understand, then, it will be necessary for you to
have about $3,500 in order to use the building? -
Dr. ANDERSON. That is my understanding. Of course, Mr. Chair-
man, as you know, you can have makeshifts and can get along, but
that is very unsatisfactory. The laboratory is the only research in-
stitution of its kind maintained by the Government, and it certainly
seems to me they should be given the facilities that the committee
has given them in the past. The estimate for those things is $3,500.
We have had to get out bids for the grading on two different occa-
sions. The first bid for the grading was gotten out about a year
and a half ago, and they were all over the appropriation of $1,500.
They were rearranged, and in view of the shortage of work, I sup-
pose, that is now prevalent here in Washington, the bids then re-
ceived were very much reduced.
Monday, DECEMBER 28, 1914.
LIFE-SAVING SERVICE.
STATEMENTS OF MIR. S. I. KIMBALL, GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT;
MR. H. L. GOSLING, PRINCIPAL CLERK; AND MR. E. H. ROPES,
CIVIL ENGINEER. -
SUPERINTENDENTS.
The CHAIRMAN. For pay of district Superintendents the appro-
priation is $27,900, and your estimate is $27,900. That is for 13
superintendents already provided by law and whose compensation
is fixed by law Ż . - t;
Mr. KIMBALL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And all the places are filled?
Mr. KIMBALL. Yes, sir. -
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REEE’ERS.
The CHAIRMAN. “For salaries of 293 keepers of life-saving and
lifeboat stations and of houses of refuge, $278,800.” How many of
these keepers are there? - ',
Mr. KIMBALL. Two hundred and eighty-three, and 10 keeperships
for which salary is not estimated. -
The CHAIRMAN. What was your unexpended balance in 1913?
Mr. GoSDING. $2,149.
The CHAIRMAN. And for 1914?
Mr. Gosli NG. $2,075.
The CHAIRMAN. Since then you have had some new stations estab-
lished, have you not?
Mr. GOSLING. We are establishing one now, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. How did we happen to give you $2,000 more for
this year? 2’ -
Mr. GoSLING. You have not given us any more. The estimate is
just the same as last year.
The CHAIRMAN. But for the current year we gave you $2,000 more.
Mr. Gosli NG. Yes, sir; we asked for salaries for four additional
keepers on account of the new stations.
The CHAIRMAN. Were they not established?
Mr. Gosling. One of them is being established at Mackinac
Island, Mich. º
The CHAIRMAN. How many keepers have you altogether?
Mr. Gosling. Two hundred and eighty-three.
The CHAIRMAN. Ten not estimated for?
Mr. Gosling. Yes, sir.
Mr. KIMBALL. That is simply to provide places for disabled keep-
ers in order that payment can be made to them under the law.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of those do you take care of ?
Mr. Gosli NG. We estimate for 10.
The CHAIRMAN. How much are they paid!
Mr. Gosli NG. They are paid at the regular rate of keepers on ac-
count of disability, under the provisions of section 7, act of May 4,
1882, for a period not exceeding two years. That is the reason we
have a balance under keepers.
CURRENT EXPENSES, CREWS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. For pay of crews of Surfmen, rations, or com-
mutation thereof, etc., the appropriation for the current year is
$2,100,000, and you are asking for $2,219,410. What did you spend
in 1913% .
Mr. Gosli NG. $1,928,300.
The CHAIRMAN. What was your unexpended balance in 1914%
Mr. Gosli NG. $33,000 so far, out of which we will spend some
$13,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure you will need $119,000 more
next year than you had this year?
Mr. KIMBALL. The increases are made up as follows: For surfmen,
$21,235; rations, $3,575; apparatus, $23,000; construction work,
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$62,800; furniture, $4,000; other items, $4,600. The last named are
Small items for various purposes. -
The CHAIRMAN. You estimate $21,235 more for surfmen?
Mr. GoSDING, Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You estimated you would spend in 1915 $1,294,235
for surfmen, and that is your exact estimate for 1916. p
Mr. Gosli NG. We did not ask for any increase.
The CHAIRMAN. But you say you are going to spend $21,000 more,
in accounting for this increase of $119,000?
Mr. GoSDING. But we did not get all the money we estimated for
1915 and included in that estimate were the surfmen for these four
new stations.
The CHAIRMAN. You got the stations?
Mr. Gosli NG. We have not manned any of them yet.
The CHAIRMAN. You only have one of the stations?
Mr. Gosli NG. Only one; yes, sir. That is at Mackinac Island.
We are building that station now.
The CHAIRMAN. You have not the others?
Mr. KIMBALL. We have not even the titles yet.
The CHAIRMAN. For apparatus you estimated for 1915, $135,000?
Mr. GoSDING. Yes, sir. . .
The CHAIRMAN. And for 1916 you estimate only $123,000?
Mr. Gosli NG. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Instead of expending $23,000 more you are figur-
ing on spending $12,000 less?
Mr. Gosli NG. Yes, sir; $12,000 less than the estimate for 1915.
As we did not get the full amount of our estimate for 1915 we set
aside $100,000 out of the 1915 appropriation for apparatus, and
therefore we will need $23,000 additional if we carry out the plan
of constructing the number of boats we desire to build.
The CHAIRMAN. By “construction ” do you mean buildings?
Mr. Gosli NG. No, sir; these are boats. -
The CHAIRMAN. Under the term “construction work”?
Mr. Gosli NG. Yes, sir. º
The CHAIRMAN. You estimated that you would spend $220,000
in 1915 and $234,000 for 1916. That is not $62,000 more?
Mr. GOSLING. We found that we did not have the amount of
money necessary for construction work out of the appropriation for
1915. We set aside only $172,000 for this purpose. Sixty-two
thousand dollars is the increase over $172,000 and not over the esti-
mate of $220,000 for 1915.
The CHAIRMAN. Your buildings are all in pretty good repair?
Mr. RoPEs. Of the total $234,000, $26,000 is for regular repair
and maintenance of the buildings; for rebuilding and improvement
of stations, where the activities of the service have outgrown the
present accommodations and where old buildings have passed beyond
repair, $94,000; marine construction—that is, launchways, break-
waters, bulkheads, and work of that description—$106,000; and
storm protection, about $8,000.
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MonDAY, DECEMBER 28, 1914.
REVENUE-CUTTER SERVICE.
STATEMENTS OF CAPT. E. P. BERTHOLF, CAPTAIN COMMANDANT, -
AND CAPT. CHARLES A. McALLISTER, ENGINEER IN CHIEF.
PAY AND ALLOWAN CES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For pay and allowances,” Revenue-Cutter Serv-
ice, the appropriation for 1915 is $2,350,000, and you are asking
$2,385,000. What was your unexpended balance in 1914 when you
had $2,300,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. $3,665.50.
The CHAIRMAN. Where does your increase of $85,000 occur:
Capt. BERTHOLF. There is an increase of $35,000 over the present
appropriation. That includes three times—first, pay of officers:
Second, pay of crews; and, third, contingent.
The CHAIRMAN. Pay of officers, that is how much 3
Capt. BERTHOLF. That will be $25,500.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure that? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. There will be four third lieutenants of engineers
in 1916, who are now cadets. That means an increase of $2,762. In
1916 we should have six line cadets and four engineer cadets which
we do not now have, because we are asking for 21. That is an addi-
tional expense of $7,695. There will be one retirement in 1916 which
will cost $1,675, the difference between the pay of a third lieutenant
and the pay of the retired officer. In addition, there is $13,370.50 for
longevity pay and promotions which will accrue in 1916. Every
five years there is a 10 per cent increase, called longevity pay. Quite
a number of these increases will be due in 1916 and they amount
to over $13,000. The whole increase in pay of officers totals $25,-
502.50, exactly. \ - -
The CHAIRMAN. Over the current year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How is it in preparing your estimates you only
estimated for $10,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. $35,000. ſ
The CHAIRMAN. No; $10,000. Last year you estimated for pay of
officers (active, retired, and retired waiting-orders list) $836,286?
Capt. BERTHOLF. This is the increase in the estimate for 1916 over
the cost of the current year. *
The CHAIRMAN. I know. That is what you estimated it would cost
for this year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And for next year you estimate that it will cost
$846,051.50, a little under $10,000.
Capt. BERTHOLF. It is only going to cost this year $820,549. That
is the figure now. e
The CHAIRMAN. You submitted an estimate for $836,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Because in making estimates we have to allow
for all contingencies, and that estimate for 1915 was made some time
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ago. We now know better what is going to happen this year, with
the knowledge of the first six months’ actual expenses to guide us.
The CHAIRMAN. And you estimate for next year
Capt. BERTHOLF. $846,051.50.
The CHAIRMAN. That is only a difference of $10,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir. $820,549 is what we now estimate it
will cost us this year.
The CHAIRMAN. That was the statement last year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir; but we are now figuring on what it will
actually cost this year, having the expense of the past six months to
guide us. It is rather difficult to figure sometimes for two years in
advance.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the whole increase?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the next increase?
Capt. BERTHOLF. The next increase is in the pay of crews. We
have an increase there of $7,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. Because our crews are running more complete
than last year. In submitting an estimate we always figure on how
the crews have been running. They have usually been short three or
four men on a ship. Now, we find that the complements of the ships
are keeping more nearly filled all the time—about 1 per cent more
men than last year,
The CHAIRMAN. How much will that cost?
Capt. BERTHOLF. $7,000. That is $25,500 and $7,000, and then we
have contingent, $5,500.
The CHAIRMAN. You figured that for this year the enlisted men
and crews would cost $892,473.44.
Capt. BERTHoDF. Yast year we made that estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. No, sir; the current year. In Submitting your
estimate for next year you estimate that it will cost $925,215?
Capt. BERTHOLF. That is the gross estimate for the individual
item of crews’ pay. That is figuring on the very maximum. That
is not the estimate of which I have been Speaking.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not shift your basis of calculation?
Capt. BERTHolf. We have to. That is what we call the gross
estimate. If these appropriations are made in Separate items we
must estimate on the maximum for each item, but the appropriation
asked for is a lump sum for all the items.
The CITAIRMAN. There is an increase of $33,000?
Capt. BERTHolf. That is what we call the gross, estimate. In
figuring on the gross we must estimate on the maximum require-
ments. We do not estimate on the maximum in this lump sum—we
estimate only on probabilities. We need only $863,000 to meet our
probable expenses for pay of crews. If we had every man for every
day for the whole year we would need $925,000. But we know we
are not going to have all the men all the time. .
The Crºarrara N. You figure on $35,000. Where is the other item'
CONTINGENT EXPENSEs.
Capt. BERTuoi.F. $25,500, $7,000, and another item of $5,500 for
contingént. For many years past the rental of wharves for use of
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tugs and harbor launches detailed for customs duty, particularly
at Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Pensacola, Mobile, and San
Francisco, have been paid from the appropriation for the customs
service. It has now been arranged that the sum necessary for this
expense be added to our appropriation, and the appropriation for
the customs service be reduced by that sum. That amounts to $5,500.
That makes altogether $38,000. 3. +.
The CHAIRMAN. Why did you add $9,000 to the contingent fund?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We did not. The gross contingent for 1916 is
$33,000, and for 1915 the gross contingent was $24,000.
The CHAIRMAN. I am talking about what you estimated last year.
For this year you estimated in your contingent fund $24,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. For the present year. That was not enough. We
are going to spend more than that. . -
The CHAIRMAN. How much more?
Capt. BERTHOLF. It will probably cost us this year for contingent
expenses $27,000. ' That is what we think it will cost us, figuring
now with six months’ expenses behind us.
The CHAIRMAN. You estimated $24,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We did not estimate enough.
The CHAIRMAN. You estimated a great deal more on the other
items? e
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir; we estimated what we thought we
needed.
The CHAIRMAN. The contingent expenses run about the same every
year? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. Let us see.
The CHAIRMAN. What did you expend in 1914?
Capt. BERTHOLF. $29,757, and in 1913, $26,369. This year we esti-
mate that it will cost us $27,000. It cost us $29,000 in 1914 because
we had to repair several wharves—notably at Wilmington, which
cost over $1,000. We are eliminating from this current year those
expenditures made last year which will not be necessary this year.
The CHAIRMAN. $24,000 plus $5,000 would be $29,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. You add $4,000 more? .
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes; but you see when I estimated $24,000 last
year it was not enough. Now, I am estimating that it is going to
cost us $27,000 for the current year. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you figure the three items?
Capt. BERTHolf. $38,000. From this must be subtracted $3,000,
because we are not including in the estimate this year $3,000 for im-
proving the depot at Baltimore.
The CHAIRMAN. $5,000?
Capt. BERTHolf. It used to be $5,000; we spent $3,000 last year.
The CHAIRMAN. That makes $35,000 altogether?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. We are going to save $17,000 on ship chandlery
and engineers’ stores and supplies and outfits?
Capt. BERTHOLF. How do you make that? ... •
The CHAIRMAN. You estimated that for the current year you
would expend $173,000. - -
Capt. BERTHOLF. We will spend this year only $148,000.
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The CHAIRMAN. You will not spend any more next year !
Capt. BERTHOLF. I am figuring on the same amount.
The CHAIRMAN. The estimate is $156,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. That is the gross. ©
The CHAIRMAN. I am talking about the lump sum.
Capt. BERTHOLF. That is what I am figuring on in asking for
$2,385,000. That is the lump sum asked for, which is $35,000 more
than the current appropriation, and I am explaining why we need
that increase.
The CHAIRMAN. $5,000 for rent?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And how much for the other items?
Capt. BERTHOLE. $7,000 for the men and $25,500 for the officers.
The CHAIRMAN. $7,000 for the men?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The men cost about the same every year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir; the cost increases.
The CHAIRAN. Because of longevity? . -
Capt. BERTHOLF. To some extent, longevity. The cost is increas-
ing just now because, as I have said, the crews are running more
nearly filled all the time. We are now getting about 95 per cent of
the total number of men authorized. There are so many sailors idle
because so many merchant ships are tied up.
The CHAIRMAN. How much for the officers?
Capt. BERTHOLF. $25,500. That, added to increase for crew, is
$32,500, and $5,500 for Wharf rentals makes altogether $38,000, and
deducting $3,000 which we are not going to include for the depot
leaves $35,000 as the total increase.
The CHAIRMAN. That is all you are going to expend in excess of
this year? Where are you going to save next year over this year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We are not going to save anything, unless we do
not get any more money, and in that case we will have to defer pur-
chasing necessary equipment until the next year. It costs more each
year to run the service because of the increase in the cost of supplies,
the necessary increase in the men's Wages, etc., but there have been
a great many economies in the last three or four years.
The CHAIRMAN. Where? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. For instance, in 1911 it cost $190,000 for ship
chandlery, etc.; in 1912, $162,000; in 1913, $149,000; and in 1914,
$144,000. That is a pretty good showing.
The CHAIRMAN. You lost a couple of boats, and so you did not
need so many supplies?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We did not lose any ships last fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. What other explanation can you give?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have a different method of buying. We pur-
chase a lot of supplies from the navy yards when we get better prices
than if we bought outside. We make the merchants compete with
the navy-yard prices.
COAL.
The CHAIRMAN. What other item'
Capt. BERTHoLF. It cost us in 1912, $239,000 for coal, just the same
in 1913, but only $230,000 for 1914. We estimate that it is going to
cost us $237,000 this year. This is where we have saved: In 1912
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We cruised 406,000 miles, and that made the cost of coal 59 cents per
knot. In 1913 we cruised 408,000 miles—2,000 miles more—and it
cost us 58.4 cents per knot. Last year we cruised 404,000 miles, and
it cost us Only 56.8 cents per knot. The price of coal has increased,
and yet the cost per knot has gone down, showing a better expendi-
ture of the fuel. -
The CHAIRMAN. You spent more money and cruised less miles and
still the cost is reduced ? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. It cost $239,000 in 1913 and $9,000 less in 1914.
We made 4,000 miles less, and it cost $9,000 less.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you buy the coal?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Under contract.
The CHAIRMAN. According to the thermal units?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. . -
Capt. McALLISTER. According to the method of the Geological
Survey.
Capt. BERTHOLF. They analyze the coal.
The CHAIRMAN. The Bureau of Mines—Dr. Holmes examines it?
Capt. McALLISTER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. It is all bought under his supervision?
Capt. McALLISTER. He tests it if there is any question about its
coming up to the standard. -
Capt. BERTHOLF. We do not have the coal tested when we are satis-
fied with the coal furnished during the preceding year, but when
we have a new contractor or a new kind of coal, we have it tested,
and if there is any complaint from the ships as to the coal furnished
we have samples sent on and tested. -
The CHAIRMAN. Does he have anything to do with your specifica-
tions on which the coal is bought?
Capt. McALLISTER. Yes, sir; we get the specifications from him.
He sent a man up to see us and we went over the matter with him
and got up our specifications in accordance with his system. .
The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of fact, your coal is purchased actu-
ally in accordance with his suggestions as to method, and he makes
an examination of the coal and tests the coal when the contract is
made, and makes tests if there should be any complaint or if the coal
does not seem to produce the results it should' -
Capt. McALLISTER. Yes, sir. . -
Capt. BERTHOLF. There is another saving in the fuel. We have
installed oil on three ships on the west coast. That saves money.
The CHAIRMAN. You are burning oil on the Pacific coast'
Capt. BERTHOLF. On three ships.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any more ships now than last year?
You have one less? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. One less.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you expect any additional ones next year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Two are building now.
The CHAIRMAN. Will they be finished next year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. They will be finished in June.
The CHAIRMAN. Of this year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir; June, 1915.
The CHAIRMAN. This estimate includes them?
Capt. BERTHOLF. There is another estimate providing for that
money.
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The CHAIRMAN. You will have next year two ships more than you
have this year? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. No; the two we are building will replace two
now in existence. The latter are worthless and not costing much for
outfits. It will cost more to run these new ships. g
The CHAIRMAN. Than the two in commission now %
Capt. BERTHOLF. They are just about paddling around. -
The CHAIRMAN. They must be very expensive—just paddling
around? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir. We do not give them any supplies if
we can help it, and do not make any repairs.
The CHAIRMAN. Next year will your fleet be larger or smaller or
the same as this year? . -
Capt. BERTHOLF. Next year the fleet will be just one vessel short,
unless they pass the bill now pending in Congress to replace the one
lost in 1910 on the west coast. The fleet will be about the same size
in 1916. We lost a vessel this year. We are now two short on the
West coast. - -
CADETS.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for an increase of seven cadets?
Capt. BERTHOLF. There are 14 authorized now. We are asking
for the 21 that we ought to have regularly from now on.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the present situation with regard to
the officers? -
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have now 19 vacancies for officers, leaving
223 officers on the active list. We have 11 cadets to fill those 19
vacancies, and we will have 2 more vacancies in 1916, or before
those cadets will have graduated, so that we should appoint 10 cadets
next year. *
The CHAIRMAN. How many vacancies have you?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have 19 vacancies for officers.
The CHAIRMAN. You always average at least 10%
Capt. BERTHOLF. Seven is the average. .
The CHAIRMAN. I thought you figured on having 10.
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir; 7 is the average for a number of years,
and the academic course for the cadets is 3 years, so that we should
have 21 cadets always in training, an average of 7 coming in and 7
graduating into the service each year. This number–21—will give
us the quota of cadets we should have in training all the time. It will
not be any more than 21, and sometimes we would have less than 21.
The CHAIRMAN. You will never have less than 21 if we keep au-
thorizing them.
Capt. BERTHOLF. There may not be that many vacancies, and then
we would not appoint the full number.
The CHAIRMAN. You have now 14.
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have now 11.
The CHAIRMAN. You are authorized to have 14.
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you expect to appoint all of them?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We expect to appoint 10 next year.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you would want only 21%
Capt. BERTHOLF. That will be 21–10 and 11.
Mr. MoRDELL. You spoke of the increase in the pay of the officers?
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Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. * ,
Mr. MoRDELL. Ten per cent every five years?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir; up to 40 per cent, but not over 40 per
cent. i
Mr. MoRDELL. There is no such increase in the pay of enlisted
men and warrant officers for longevity. -
Capt. BERTHOLF. There is the same increase for warrant officers
and petty officers, but not for the other enlisted men. The former
get 10 per cent every five years up to 40 per cent, but not such a
large proportion of them remain in the service, as in the case of the
commissioned officers. -
Mr. MONDELL. You say that your crews are nearer filled than they
have been in the past? . . -
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. :
Mr. MONDELL. Is that due to any unusual effort that you have .
made to increase the crews or is it because the men have offered their
services more freely than heretofore?
Capt. BERTHOLF. I do not know exactly. We have made no special
effort, so far as that is concerned, except that we are always making
an effort to keep the complement of the ships full. A man enlists
for a year, and under ordinary circumstances when his time expires
we may not be able to fill his vacancy for several days, because there
may not be a sufficient number of applicants, but now there is no
lack of applicants.
Mr. MoRDELL. As I recollect, it was stated in the hearings last
year that you had some difficulty in getting and keeping men; evi-
dently you do not have that same difficulty to the same extent now.
Capt. BERTHOLF. At what hearing? On the hearings of the Reve-
nue-Cutter Service?
Mr. MoRDELL. Yes, sir.
Capt. BERTHOLF. I do not remember that, but we have not that
difficulty. -
Mr. MoRDELL. I may be mistaken about that, but it runs through
my mind that some one made that statement in reference to the
Revenue-Cutter Service.
Capt. BERTHOLF. Here are some statistics that will explain the
matter: In 1913 there were 922 original enlistments and 584 reen-
listments, showing that the latter Ilumber of men desired to continue
in the service. In 1914 there 942 original enlistments and 710 re-
enlistments, indicating that a greater number of men desired to stay
in the service. Now, it may be that they desired to stay in the
service this year more than they did last year because positions on
vessels are more difficult to obtain, for the reason that So many
merchant vessels are laid up. In certain of our ports, like Wilming-
ton, Key West, or Galveston, we do have difficulty in getting men,
because there is a lack of supply, but in New York we never have
difficulty in securing them. In some of the Small ports we are now
getting men without any trouble.
Mr. MoRDELL. In the questions which the chairman propounded
to you with regard to some discrepancies in the estimates, it de;
veloped that in making up your detailed estimates you estimated
the maximum needs of the service and then cut them down a certain
sum in presenting your lump-sum estimates.
190 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Capt. BERTHOLF. The lump-sum estimate is the probable total cost
based on past expenditures. An old law requires us to estimate for
certain items in detail, just as you see it in the Book of Estimates.
Of course, as each item is estimated for separately, we must figure on
the maximum and also a factor of safety for each item. But in the
lump-sum estimate we figure on the probable cost for each item based
On Our cost for the last year and for six months of the present year.
With a lump-sum appropriation, if one item costs more than was
expected, Some other item of expense can be reduced to meet the con-
tingency. -
REPAIRS TO REVENUE CUTTERs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for repairs to revenue cutters,
$175,000. The current appropriation is $175,000. You are not sav-
‘ing anything there, are you? - *
Capt. BERTHOLF. I do not know that we are Saving anything.
The CHAIRMAN. You will have fewer ships to repair, because you
will discontinue a couple of old hulks.
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have not estimated on repairing them for a
couple of years. -
The CHAIRMAN. Don’t you think you could cut this down $60,000 or
$75,000?
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir. We need boilers on a great many of our
ships. Our ships are old.
Mr. MoRDELL. Did I understand you to say that when the new
ships are placed in commission two of your present ships would be
retired?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. You will not use them at all?
Capt. BERTHOLF. No, sir; they will be sold and the two new ones
will take their places. g
Mr. MoR DELL. The new ships are larger? •
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir; larger and better ships.
Mr. MoRDELL. They will, of course, give more service than you have
been able to get from the old ships?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. At the present time we are not getting
any service at all from those old ships, except now and then.
Mr. MoRDELL. So that, as a matter of fact, you are practically get-
ting at least one new ship?
Capt. BERTHOLF. I think that is the way it could be figured. The
two old ships we have now are not worth one good ship.
Capt. MCALLISTER. One of those ships is 52 years old.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is the age of retirement, I believe.
The CHAIRMAN. How many ships have you?
Capt. McALLISTER. Forty-three, including launches and everything,
The CHAIRMAN. I mean real ships. e
Capt. BERTHOLF. There are 25 ships of the first and second classes.
The CHAIRMAN. The average is $7,000 a year for repairs.
Capt. BERTHOLE. You see, there are 11 good-sized, tugboats that
have to be repaired, and in those repairs we are making renewals.
We have to put in new boilers out of that appropriation for repairs.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you have left in 1914%
Capt. BERTHOLF. Of the appropriation for repairs?
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The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Capt. BERTIOR.E. We had a deficiency.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you have left?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We had $3,096.04.
The CHAIRMAN. Almost as much as the deficiency Ż
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you have left in 1913?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We had $2,494.03.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, in 1911 we consolidated two items here, and
you told us that the vessels would be put in first-class shape and that
we could then reduce the appropriation. When will that be done?
We gave you $75,000 for repairs and then gave $100,000 for extraordi-
nary repairs. In five years you have had $500,000 for extraordinary
repairs. .
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have not asked for any extraordinary appro-
priation for several years past, as we are making all repairs, current
and extraordinary, out of the regular appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. You stated that if we gave you this $175,000 for
a couple of years you would have the fleet in such fine shape that
we could reduce this sum. -
Capt. BERTHOLF. I did not say in a couple of years.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; and you have had it for five years.
Capt. BERTHOLF. And we will keep on needing that for a good
many years, because that is only about 5 per cent of the value of the
ships. No steamship company keeps its ships in repair for that small
amount of money.
The CHAIRMAN. You have a lot of ships you do not use?
Capt. BERTHOLF. We have those two old ships, but we do not put
any extraordinary repairs on them. We have had to renew boilers
on other ships. We have put in boilers in two ships this year out of
this appropriation, and we expect to put boilers in two ships next
year.
NEW SEIIPS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For the completion of two
revenue cutters authorized by the act approved June 24, 1914: Rev-
enue cutter for the coast of Maine, $160,000; revenue cutter for the
Gulf of Mexico, $150,000; in all, $310,000.”
Capt. BERTHOLF. Those ships will be finished by June, 1915.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for $160,000 for one of the cutters.
Why do you ask for them separately like this? We gave you $165,000
out of •
Capt. BERTHOLF (interposing). Out of $475,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; out of $475,000.
- Capt. BERTHOLF. There were two ships, and we expect to pay
$250,000 for one and $225,000 for the other.
The CHAIRMAN. Does the law authorizing these vessels assign them
permanently to those stations, one for the coast of Maine and the
other for the Gulf of Mexico? "
Capt. BERTHOLF. The law expressly says for service on the coast
of Maine and for service in the Gulf.
The CHAIRMAN. These ships are under construction and will be
finished when?
Capt. BERTHOLF. By June—this coming June.
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The CHAIRMAN. June of 1915?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, you will want this money before the 1st
of July 7 J
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. We will need it about that time, any-
way.
The CHAIRMAN. You expect the ships to go into commission
around the 1st of this coming July 3
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir; this coming July.
Mr. MoRDELL. Where are they being built?
Capt. BERTHOLF. By the Newport News Shipbuilding Co., of Vir-
glnla. g
The CHAIRMAN. You want this money available during the current
fiscal year?
Capt. BERTHOLF. Yes, sir. *
Capt. McALLISTER. It ought to be available from the passage of
the bill, because the payments will be due then.
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 29, 1914.
ENGRAVING AND PRINTING.
[See p. 939.]
STATEMENTS OF MR. WILLIAM P. MALBURN, ASSISTANT SECRE-
TARY OF THE TREASURY; MR. JOSEPH E. RALPH, DIRECTOR,
AND MR. FRANK E. FERGUSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, BUREAU
OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING; MR. W. E. BUELL, CHIEF, FED-
ERAL RESERVE DIVISION, OFFICE OF COMPTROLLER OF THE
CURRENCY; MR. JOHN BURKE, TREASURER OF THE UNITED
STATES; M.R. WILLIAM S. BROUGHTON, CHIEF, DIVISION OF
L0ANS AND CURRENCY; AND MR. W. N. THOMPSON, PRIVATE
SECRETARY TO ASSISTANT SECRETARY MALBURN.
SALARIES OF EMPLOYEES OTHER THAN PLATE PRINTERS AND PLATE
PRINTERs’ AssistANTS.
[See p. 939.]
The CHAIRMAN. For salaries of all necessary employees other than
plate printers and plate-printers' assistants your estimate is $1,447,-
946, and the appropriation for the current fiscal year is $1,300,000.
Mr. RALPH. Since submitting the estimates to the Committee on
Appropriations by the Secretary of the Treasury, in reviewing the
requirements of the department, Mr. Malburn, the Treasurer of the
United States, and myself reached the conclusion that the Treasurer
would be justified in making a reduction of his estimate by 10,000,000
sheets for the next fiscal year. Now, as my estimates for the Work
of operating the bureau are based upon the estimated requirements
of the department for whom we do the work, I am going to expect
those departments to defend their estimates rather than place the
responsibility upon me, as they have done in the past. I have been
fighting for a number of years in order to deliver them a certain
quanity of work, just as I did yesterday in the case of the boilers,
when that was purely an estimate of the Supervising Architect's
Office and did not emanate from me at all.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 193
In connection with the item for the salaries of employees other
than plate printers and assistants, the appropriation for the fiscal
year ended June 30, 1914, was $1,301,828, including a deficiency of
$64,048, and the unexpended balance was $10,187.72.
The CHAIRMAN. Was that for 1914?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. The unexpended balance was $10,187.72.
These employees, on account of lack of funds, had to be furloughed
without pay in April and May, 1914, six days each. The unexpended
balances of compensation and of plate printing could not be used
to reduce the number of days of furlough for the reason that the
orders for postage stamps and for other reimbursable work could
not be accurately anticipated and all the funds therefor could not
be received in time for payment to our employees on June 30, 1914.
The estimate now is $1,447,505, only $441 less than in the Book of
Estimates. § - -
The CHAIRMAN. The estimate here is $1,447,946. -
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; that is the revised estimate on the reduction
of 10,000,000 sheets. As I have said, the estimate now is $1,447,505,
or only $441 less than in the Book of Estimates.
The reduction under this head is small for the reason that the
added revenue stamps are printed on offset presses, which cost, to-
gether with the cost of gumming and perforating, is payable from
this appropriation, whereas the cost of printing the notes eliminated
is payable from the item of “Wages of plate printers and their as-
sistants,” and the latter item shows a larger reduction. A reduction
for the 10,000,000 sheets will be made from the item for plate print-
ing. The printing of the war-tax stamps is now paid out of the
appropriation for salaries of employees other than plate printers.
I am printing the war-tax stamps by a different process from that
used heretofore by the Government, and I believe I am effecting
an economy in the printing of them by that process of $100,000. I
am printing the war-tax stamps at a cost of a little over 2% cents
per thousand, whereas the postage stamps cost practically 5 cents
per thousand.
The appropriation for 1915 is $1,300,000; the estimate now is
$147,505 more, or an increase of 11.35 per cent.
The estimate includes $8,400 for “custody of dies, rolls, and
plates,” which has been omitted from the estimate of the Chief of
the Division of Loans and Currency.
The CHAIRMAN. We are not going to transfer that, and we need
not go into it. That transfers a specific appropriation to a lump-
sum appropriation? -
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. We will not do that.
Mr. RALPH. You know a year ago you suggested that you thought
the director should be the custodian of those plates. The Secrétary
has appointed me custodian, and we save $3,000 a year by eliminat-
ing the custodian of dies, rolls, and plates.
The CHAIRMAN. We might take it up if you will do that.
Mr. RALPH. The number of impressions now estimated to be
printed in 1916 is 333,576,025
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Now, you are talking about im-
pressions and we were talking about sheets.
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Mr. RALPH. This refers to impressions.
The CHAIRMAN. Either stick to impressions or to sheets.
Mr. RALPH. I will refer to both. I have it in sheets and impres-
sions. As I said, the number of impressions now estimated to be
printed in 1916 is 333,576,025, and in 1915, as provided in the appro-
priations, 308,355,864, an increase of 1916 over 1915 of 25,220,161,
or 8.18 per cent, as compared with 11.35 per cent increase in the
estimate. The reason of the greater increase in cost as compared
with the work is due to the increased quantity of revenue stamps
and the decreased quantity of United States notes, the cost under
this head of the former being much greater than that of the latter,
as heretofore explained. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many sheets did you print in 1914?
Mr. RALPH. We printed 280,272,828 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. That number of sheets?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; of securities.
The CHAIRMAN. Divide them up.
Mr. RALPH. I have not the statistics here necessary to enable me
to do that. I have only three classes here. Of United States notes
there were 73,609,000 sheets; of national-bank notes there were
12,523,164 sheets; of internal-revenue stamps there were 80,195,136
sheets; of customs stamps there were 200,500 sheets
The CHAIRMAN. All of that is repaid work?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; it is estimated for.
The CHAIRMAN. In here?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. How many sheets of postage stamps?
Mr. RALPH. Of postage stamps there were 107,488,047 sheets; of
parcel-post stamps there were 2,808,654 sheets; and of checks, drafts,
and miscellaneous work there were 3,448,327 sheets, making the total
number of sheets delivered 280,272,828. -
The CHAIRMAN. Now, for 1915
Mr. RALPH (interposing). And you can add to that 2 per cent
for defective work and mutilated sheets. That represents the num-
ber of sheets actually printed and delivered.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, for 1915? -
Mr. RALPH. That is the present year. The number of impressions
now estimated to be printed in 1916 is 333,596,025,
The CIIAIRMAN. That is in 1915?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; that is for 1916.
The CIIAIRMAN. I am talking about 1915.
Mr. RALPII. That is 308,355,864. -
The CHAIRMAN. Give us the statement for United States notes
Il OW. r -
Mr. RALP11. During the present year we expect to deliver 74,000,000
sheets of United States notes. t
The CHAIRMAN. And of national-bank notes.
Mr. RALPII. Fourteen million sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. Of internal-revenue stamps.
Mr. RALPH. I have not got that data for the present fiscal year
other than for the items that I thought Would interest the committee.
I have the total number of sheets, but I have not the internal-revenue
stamps and postage stamps.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, give the others and subtract for the
internal-revenue stamps.
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Mr. RALPII. I have nothing but the United States notes for the
present year. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Then I want you to find out those things. What
we want is one basis of comparison here.
How much money have you had altogether in 1915?
Mr. RALPII. Do you want the total under these items?
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know the amount of inoney that you
are using under this particular item.
Mr. RALPH. That is $1,301,825.
The CHAIRMAN. That is for this year?
Mr. RALPH. Not including the deficiency.
The CHAIRMAN. Now I want the statement for 1915. -
Mr. RALPH. The appropriation for 1915 under this heading is
$1,625,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. What does that include? It includes $1,300,000
and what else?
Mr. RALPH. The appropriation for 1915 was $1,300,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You got certain money under the war-revenue
act, did you not?
Mr. RALPH. I got certain money for printing emergency currency
and for the Federal-reserve notes.
The CHAIRMAN. And for war-revenue stamps?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; there was no appropriation made for them
in the act itself; but I am printing those stamps, and I have deliv-
ered up to the present time something like five billion war-revenue
stamps. While I expect to come in under the general deficiency
bill for an appropriation to reimburse me for that work, yet I am
striving to get along without it until about the latter part of Janu-
ary or until I can get Some line on it that will enable me to determine
how much will be required. -
The CHAIRMAN. Didn’t they carry an appropriation in the act?
Mr. RALPH. They carried an appropriation of $30,000 for paper,
but no money for printing; and I feel a business pride in the fact
that I am printing those stamps at about one-half of what it cost
to print them in 1898. I am printing them by a new process and
am saving the Government money on them. I am trying to get
along without asking for a deficiency, but I will not be able to deter-
mine that until a month hence. •
Now, this is the estimate of the quantity of work for 1915. We
estimate that for the present fiscal year We will deliver 74,000,000
sheets of securities to the Treasurer of the United States, comprising
14,000,000 sheets of national-bank, notes, 86,765,459 sheets of internal-
revenue stamps, and 129,002,457 sheets of postage stamps. Then for
customs stamps and miscellaneous work we estimate 1,986,156 sheets,
The CITAIRMAN. How much for checks and drafts?
Mr. RALPH. Checks and drafts are included with the customs
stamps and miscellaneous.
The CHAIRMAN. How much for parcel post? . -
Mr. RALPH. There are no parcel-post stamps for the present year.
We are not using them. We have discontinued their use and are
using the ordinary postage stamps. The Postmaster General has
effected an economy of $50,000 in that. . . . - - -
The CHAIRMAN. But nobody is able to figure out whether or not
parcel post pays? - -
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Mr. RALPH. No, sir; there is no check on the stamps. .
The CHAIRMAN. Well, you will have for United States notes in
1916 -
Mr. RALPH (interposing). Eighty million sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. And you reduce that by 10,000,000 sheets?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; under the Book of Estimates. The Book of
Estimates provided for 90,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. As against 74,000,000 sheets for 1915?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And for national-bank notes?
Mr. RALPH. Thirteen million five hundred thousand sheets as
against 14,000,000 sheets. *
The CHAIRMAN. And for internal-revenue stamps?
Mr. RALPH. Eighty-nine million mine hundred and forty-nine
thousand six hundred and twenty-three. This does not include war-
tax stamps. - -
The CHAIRMAN. This other includes war-tax stamps
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; none of them do. We have no appropriation
for war-tax stamps. I have here a supplemental statement which I
will read to you. &
The CHAIRMAN. I want a statement including all of these things.
Mr. RALPH. Then let me read this statement to you. -
The CHAIRMAN. We were discussing sheets, and you called them
impressions
Mr. RALPH (interposing). It is necessary to use the word “im-
pressions” to define &
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I want it in a different way.
Mr. RALPH. I have it in both ways. Our work is different from
that which you ordinarily handle. We have three subheadings.
The CHAIRMAN. The trouble is that we find out that you do not
need all that you ask for. I do not think that you need the money
that you ask for every time, and we do not think that you ought to
print all of the notes that are asked for. -
Mr. RALPH. But I have no discretion in that matter. In the past
I have agreed with you in many instances that we did not need the
money, and I have so stated to this committee, but that is a question .
for the Treasurer to defend. - -
The CHAIRMAN. But we want these things in a form which will
enable us to make comparisons with previous years. All this is
Worthless. . . . - •
Mr. RALPH. I have the same data that I have brought each year,
and I am bringing in a supplemental report here reducing the esti-
mate 10,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. But it does not reduce it in money.
Mr. RALPH. I do reduce it in money, and I will explain that when
we come to the items for plate printing... I think if you will let me
read this
The CHAIRMAN. You may read what you have to read.
Mr. RALPH. The appropriation for the fiscal year ended June 30,
1914, was $1,624,625, including a deficiency of $187,150, and the un,
exnended balance was $14,387.37. - -
These employees, on account of lack of funds, had to be fur-
loughed without pay in April and May, 1914, the plate printers each
12 days and their assistants each 10 days. The unexpended balances
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of compensation and of plate printing could not be used to reduce
the number of days of furlough for the reason that the orders for
postage stamps and for the reimbursable work could not be ac-
curately anticipated, and all the funds therefor could not be re.
ceived in time for payment to our employees on June 30, 1914.
The estimate now is $1,652,045, which is $149,014 less than in the
Book of Estimates. g
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; but it is more than this year's appropriation.
Mr. RALPH. It is more than the appropriation for the present
year, and we have to do 8.18 per cent, or 25,220,161, more work next
year. If this committee decides that we do not need to print that
25,220,161 sheets of work our estimate will be less than the appro-
priation for the present year.
The CHAIRMAN. With all of the improvements and all of the in-
ventions and everything else which would operate to reduce the cost
of running that bureau, you ask for more money every year.
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; and we have to do more work. I think if
you will investigate that carefully you will be satisfied on that score.
am not responsible for the estimates.
The CHAIRMAN. You finish your statement and I will ask you the
questions which I wish answered. Then we can form some opinion.
Mr. RALPH. Let me complete this reading, because I have incorpo-
rated something in here that I hope may be explanatory of some of
the things you have in mind. The appropriation for 1915 is
$1,625,000; the estimate is $27,045 more, equal to a 1.66 per cent in-
crease, as compared with a 5.27 per cent increase in the plate-printed
impressions to be printed. I am asking less than 2 per cent to print
practically 6 per cent more work. The plate-printed impressions for
1915 are 245,119,006, and for 1916 they now are 258,038,352, an in-
crease of 12,919,346, or 5.27 per cent over 1915. The saving in the
year ended June 30, 1914, due to the introduction of power plate-
printing presses in printing backs of paper money and of offset
presses in printing checks amounted to $210,000, and in the years
1915 and 1916 it will be $390,000 for each year. Under a decision
of the Comptroller of the Treasury all the backs of the emergency
currency and of the Federal reserve notes were in 1915 printed on
power presses, resulting in a much larger saving in that year as
compared, with the previous year. A summary would be: Impres-
sions in estimate submitted for 1916,346,066,025; reduction, 10,000,000
sheets United States notes and certificates, 20,650,000, a total of
325,416,025. Add 8,000,000 sheets new internal revenue stamps,
under act of October 22, 1914, 8,160,000; amended total impressions
for 1916, 333,576,025; impressions for 1915, as per appropriations,
308,355,864, making the increase of 1916 over 1915 8.18 per cent or
25,220,161.
The CHAIRMAN. Does that finish your statement?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
TOTAL RECEIPTS AND EXPENDITURES.
The CHAIRMAN. How much were your total appropriations for
1914?
Mr. Ralph. $3,358,927 in 1914.
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The CHAIRMAN. No; $3,362,927 plus $30,000 for paper.
Mr. RALPH. $9,000 was left out. -
The CHAIRMAN. You leave out that $9,000?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. I make it $3,383,927, and you make it $3,353,927.
You were given $30,000 for paper?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you actually spend?
Mr. RALPH. No; we did not get that paper. That is purchased
by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. I had nothing to do
with that. He purchased all of that for the Internal Revenue De-
partment, but this year I am asking that that money be transferred
to the bureau and that we be permitted to purchase it.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you actually spend?
Mr. RALPH. $4,404,937.48.
The CHAIRMAN. That is your money?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; that was the available money appropriated
and reimbursed for all work, and the actual expenditures were
$4,372,922.81, leaving a total
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How do you account for the differ-
ence of $32,000? - -
Mr. RALPH. That was money for which I was reimbursed for
postage stamps some time in August. *
The CHAIRMAN. For the last year?
Mr. RALPH. That is the unexpended balance, $32,014.67; that is
the amount expended out of the three items under which we are
operating the bureau. * *
The CHAIRMAN. I do not understand that. I want to know what
you actually spent. * -
Mr. RALPH. I actually spent altogether $4,372,922.81.
The CHAIRMAN. That is $918,000 more than the appropriation.
Mr. RALPH. $828,930.48, which is work for which I was reim-
bursed. -
The CHAIRMAN. $1,018,995.81 is the difference between $4,372,-
922.81 and $3,353,927.
Mr. RALPEI. You have made a mistake there; I can not prove
those figures.
The CHAIRMAN. You gave me $4,372,922.81 as the amount that
you had actually spent?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And $3,353,927 as the amount of your appro-
priations? -
Mr. RALPH. No ; $3,576,000.
The CHAIRMAN. No; $3,353,927 are the figures you gave.
Mr. RALPH. The amount appropriated for the operation of the
bureau was $3,576,007. t -
The CHAIRMAN. $3,353,927 are the figures that you read to me, and
those are the figures I have here. -
Mr. RALPH. Well, the difference between the amount appropriated
and the amount expended
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I have the total amount appro-
priated for your bureau as $3,353,927. * * , , -
Mr. RALPH. Well, if I read any other figures I was confusing my
figures. The amount appropriated by Congress was $3,576,007.
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The CHAIRMAN. We appropriated $3,068,777 in the sundry civil act
and $285,150 in the deficiency act. Now, where did you get the other
amount? - -
Mr. RALPH. I have included the legislative roll in my figures.
Mr. Courts. He has carried the legislative salary roll into his
figures, which you do not want here.
The CHAIRMAN. Leave those figures in.
Mr. CourTs. $216,380 is the amount of the salaries under the
legislative act. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Making $3,570,307.
Mr. RALPH. No; $3,576,007.
The CHAIRMAN. You actually spent $4,372,922—leaving out the
cents—which makes $802,615 which you spent in excess of your
annual appropriations?
Mr. RALPH. I make it $828,930.48. .
The guanºs. $4,372,922.81, and you take from that $3,576,007,
do you?
Mr. RALPH. There is an unexpended balance of $32,014.67.
The CHAIRMAN. You did not spend that? -
Mr. RALPH. That was converted into the Treasury, and is the
amount which we did not spend. s
The CHAIRMAN. That would be a credit?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; that would represent part of the profits.
The CHAIRMAN. There is about $800,000 expended in excess of the
annual appropriations. Now, where did you get that money?
Mr. RALPH. That represents repayments for the postage-stamp
contracts. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much 3 • . .
Mr. RALPH. From the Post Office Department for United States
postage stamps, including engraving, $742,778.53. -
The CHAIRMAN. That repay work does not make much difference,
because you spend it for something else; so you need not count in the
repay work. Where do you get this other money?
Mr. RALPH. Which other money?
The CHAIRMAN. This $800,000.
Mr. RALPH. That was reimbursed for work executed.
The CHAIRMAN. But you spent it again.
Mr. RALPH. I was paid for work which I executed.
Th; CHAIRMAN. Where did you get this other money that you
spent'. , - -
Mr. RALPH. Well, I have explained that by stating that I was
repaid for work which I executed for other departments. Now,
Mr. Fitzgerald, there seems to be something running through your
mind that we do not connect on and which I do not understand, but
I will be very glad to go back and give you any information you
want. I take special pride in the work of that bureau
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I am not criticizing you; I am
trying to get certain information in my way, and you are giving it
in your way. I want to get myself straightened out on this matter.
You got $742,778.53 from the Post Office Department? -
Mr. RALPH. For certain work, which is the regular and ordinary
work. Now, in addition to that I received from the Post Office
Department for parcel-post stamps, $14,534.81:... then I received in
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addition from the Post Office Department for money-order drafts,
including engraving, $960; I received from the Philippine govern-
ment for postage stamps, $2,345.28; I received from the Philippine
government for postal cards, $17.74; I received from the Philippine
government for silver certificates, $16,393.19; I received from the
Canal Zone government for United States postage stamps, Sur-
charged “Canal Zone,” $36.90. - .
The CHAIRMAN. Are these in addition to that first sum'.
Mr. RALPH. No ; this first sum is the total receipts.
Mr. MALBURN. These are in addition to the $742,778.53%
Mr. RALPH. Yes; but the total will aggregate $828,930.48. I
received from the government of Porto Rico for bonds, excise
revenue stamps, and interim certificates for bonds, exclusive of
engraving, $413.26; I received for repayments from the several
departments of the Government for services and materials furnished
and not estimated for, $149.60; I received from the Postal Savings
System for certificates of deposit, $13,806.61; I received from the
Postal Savings System for bonds, exclusive of engraving, $1,757.57;
I received from the Postal Savings System for checks, $280; I re-
ceived from the Department of State for consular fee stamps,
$332.89; I received from the Department of State for consular and
diplomatic drafts, $62.52; I received from the War Department
for certificates of proficiency Coast Artillery School and certificates
of merit, exclusive of engraving, $138.03; I received from the De-
partment of Agriculture for United States veterinary licenses and
permits, exclusive of engraving, $10.96; I received from the Isthmian
Canal Commission for bills of exchange, exclusive of engraving,
$7.15; I received from the Public Printer for portraits of Wiliam B.
Allison, $35.54; I received from the Treasurer of the United States
for money straps, $26.25; and I received from various other sources
and appropriations, as shown in statement No. 14, page 27, $34,843.45,
making the total repayments $828,930.48.
The CHAIRMAN. That makes
Mr. RALPH (interposing). The actual available sum of money to
be expended by the bureau, $4,404,937.48.
The CHAIRMAN. How much, if anything, did you get for the print-
ing of the emergency currency?
Mr. RALPH. My total repayments for emergency currency—well,
that comes in 1915.
The CHAIRMAN. There is nothing in 1914?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That makes your total for 1914?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you keep the legislative items in the 1915 ap-
propriations, too?
Mr. RALPH. Yes. - t
The CHAIRMAN. For 1915 there was appropriated $3,395,000.
Mr. RALPH. I find I have not the legislative salaries in the 1915
appropriations. Three million three hundred and ninety-five thou-
sand dollars was the amount appropriated in the Sundry civil bill.
The CHAIRMAN. You leave out the salaries because, after all, the
statutory roll is not changed in any way?
Mr. RALPH. That is right.
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The CHAIRMAN. In addition to that you did certain repay work.
What is that, if you have it? -
Mr. RALPH. That is the present year in which we are operating
and will probably aggregate about the same amount of money.
The CHAIRMAN. Would it not be more? 3. t
r. RALPH. Well, we estimate to be received for 1915, or at least
to have available, $4,349,969, but that is only an estimate.
EMERGENCY CURRENCY AND FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES.
[See pp. 209, 214, 227.]
The CHAIRMAN. Have you finished the emergency currency work?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does that amount to?
Mr. RALPH. $422,911.13. *-
The CHAIRMAN. Is that work completed?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; it is completed.
The CHAIRMAN. What other emergency work is there?
Mr. RALPH. We are now engaged in completing $250,000,000 of
Federal reserve notes, for which we will be reimbursed by the United
States later on.
The CHAIRMAN. How much will that be in round figures, and you
can insert the exact figures later? -
Mr. RALPH. That will be about $200,000. The banks, of course, will
reimburse the Government for that. There is a provision in the bill
which permits the Secretary of the Treasury to reimburse the Bureau
out of any funds in the Treasury. y
The CHAIRMAN. Do you make a profit on either of these jobs?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir. |
The CHAIRMAN. This is the actual cost?
Mr. RALPH. The actual cost. On the net result I should say we
have a slight profit, as I figure in such a way as to be on the safe side.
* in the aggregate, if there was a profit, it would not be more than
1,000. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You figure to do this work for what it actually
costs?
Mr. RALPH. For what it actually costs plus 15 per cent for overhead
charges, and I make sure that we put in such figures as to protect our
appropriations as made by Congress.
The CHAIRMAN. I want to get this in the record. When you figure
on this repay work, for instance, for the emergency currency work,
which was being paid for Out of a permanent appropriation, and the
Federal reserve notes, you figured on charging
Mr. RALPH (interposing). The actual cost plus 15 per cent for
overhead charges. -
The CHAIRMAN. You make a profit, then?
Mr. RALPH. A slight profit. -
Mr. MALBURN. That 15 per cent, Mr. Fitzgerald, is for overhead
charges. -
The CHAIRMAN. Of course, it depends a great deal on the manner
in which they fix their charges. If you are only paying out for
labor and material, everything you charge in there is a supplemental
appropriation?
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Mr. RALPH. On emergency currency We saved some money. As
We printed all of the backs on power presses, hence it costs us less
to print the emergency currency than the national bank currency,
somewhere around $35,000, otherwise we would have added $35,000
for repayment from the Treasury. I gave the Treasury the benefit
of that saving and actually charged less than I would under ordinary
circumstances, but in computing those things I always make sure
that there is a little money to our credit on this repayment work. I
do not hesitate to say that we have a substantial profit on the postal-
stamp work.
The CHAIRMAN. You have over there $500,000,000 in emergency
currency? - - - * ,
Mr. RALPH. In round numbers at the time we began we had about
$500,000,000 in money. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much more did you print %
Mr. RALPH. We printed $540,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. More?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you on hand now Ż
Mr. MALBURN. About $686,000,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. It never will be used?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir. In fact, they have commenced to reduce
it now. It is just the same, as the ordinary national-bank notes, and
will be used in sending the new money out to the national banks.
The CHAIRMAN. It will not be discarded because of the new
system? -
Mr. MALBURN. No, sir. -
Mr. BURRE. It is just the same as the national-bank notes.
The CHAIRMAN. You have about $500,000,000 of that?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir. . * * -
The CHAIRMAN. Why should you increase the number of sheets,
of national-bank notes next year over this year? |
Mr. RALPH. We have undelivered to the Comptroller of the Cur-
rency 6,500,000 sheets of national-bank notes. Practically, I am
printing very few bank notes now, but I expect within 30 days to be-
gin the delivery of the Federal reserve bank currency. It will use the
unexpended money to print that. It is printed under the same
regulations of law. The banks are not chargeable with the money
other than they reimburse the Government for the actual cost of
preparing the plates. The Comptroller of the Currency to-day gave
me orders to expedite the completion of the dies, rolls, and plates
necessary to print the Federal reserve bank currency, which will re:
place the national-bank currency, as estimated for in the Book of
Estimates, of 13,500,000 sheets. I think in the legislation that there
ought to be a provision for national currency and Federal reserve
bank currency, so much money. We are going to print two forms
of currency under that appropriation. At the present time I have
under the estimate for 1915 practically 6,500,000 sheets of national-
bank notes. i
Mr. MONDELL. Printed? - - -
Mr. RALPEI. Undelivered for this year; and six months have ex-
pired—practically half—but in order to effect a reduction, in the
reserve that you speak of, under the Aldrich-Vreeland Act the
Comptroller of the Currency is not giving me any orders to print
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money to deposit there to replace the money drawn out by the banks.
It is expected that in the next six months we will reduce that at
least 25 per cent. That would be a safe estimate, Governor';
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir. -
Mr. RALPH. In consequence, I am not getting the regular amount
of orders to print the national-bank notes that I would expect.
The CHAIRMAN. We had $500,000,000 of emergency currency in
reserve? ! *
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did they issue?
Mr. BURRE. Practically $384,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. That will be reduced, as next month they com-
mence to pay 4 per cent interest?
Mr. MALBURN. Some of them are paying it now. - !
Mr. BURRE. This is December, and it is coming in quite rapidly,
The CHAIRMAN. It will not be necessary to retire those notes be-
cause they are worn ?
Mr. BURRE. No, sir; they will be kept in circulation. We have
received $104,000,000 so far this month.
The CHAIRMAN. You had $500,000,000 and you printed $540,-
000,000? -
Mr. RALPH. They have reduced it now to $210,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You are going to have a tremendous reserve,
Why should you increase from 12,000,000 to 14,000,000 sheets? .
Mr. RALPH. Our estimate for this year, 1915, is 14,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 there were delivered 12,525,000 sheets, and
the estimate for 1915 is 14,000,000? -
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. .
The gamºs. And for 1916, 13,500,000 sheets. Why should it be
so high'
Mr. RALPH. Take the present conditions, the Comptroller of the
Currency ordinarily gives me a daily average of 45,000 sheets. *,
The CHAIRMAN. That is all right about the orders.
Mr. RALPH. I want to lead up and explain the whole matter. I
have on my books orders for about 200,000 sheets of national-bank
notes. If I were to print them and liquidate the orders of the Comp-
troller of the Currency, I would have undelivered for this year about
6,500,000 sheets of national-bank notes which you appropriate money
for me to print. I do not expect to deliver to the Comptroller of the
Currency more than 2,000,000 sheets additional of national-bank
notes during the remainder of this year, but I expect to print and
deliver 4,000,000 sheets of Federal reserve bank currency.
The CHAIRMAN. You ought to have a big surplus?
Mr. RALPH. The surplus is being eaten up by the substitution of
the Federal reserve bank currency.
The CHAIRMAN. For which you get repay ?
* . Mr. RALPH. No. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why not? -
Mr. RALPH. We get repay for the Federal reserve note, which is an
obligation of the United States Government issued to the bank. The
Federal reserve bank currency is to replace national-bank currency
which we are now speaking of. There are two forms of money issued
by the Federal reserve banks. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Not under this appropriation?
204 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. THOMPSON. The authority for the Federal reserve notes is
contained in the Federal reserve act.
The CHAIRMAN. Not out of this appropriation?
Mr. THOMPson. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You are only going to print 2,000,000 sheets in-
stead of 14,000,000 sheets?
Mr. RALPH. At present I owe them about 6,500,000 sheets on the
14,000,000 estimate, and I do not expect, according to the forecast of
the orders that I see now, to print for the remainder of this fiscal year
over 2,000,000 sheets of national-bank notes. That will leave about
4,500,000 sheets of national currency provided for in the appropria-
tion that would not be expended unless the money would be available
for the printing of other securities, but inasmuch as the act itself——
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). It is not available for printing the
Federal reserve money?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; it is available for that.
The CHAIRMAN. Only under repay work?
Mr. RALPH. No: the appropriation allotted to printing
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We discussed that before. You can
not print the Federal reserve money without some specific authority.
Mr. RALPII. I agree with you. I think there should be in the act
Something to permit us to use the appropriation.
The CIIAIRMAN. As a matter of fact, all of the Federal reserve
money has not been paid for out of this appropriation?
Mr. RALPH. The Federal reserve notes; no, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you propose to do it now ; by repay?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not use this money that will not be spent
on printing national-bank notes for Federal reserve notes unless it is
repay work?
Mr. RALPII. I think so. I think the Comptroller of the Currency
has the right under the law to order the money printed.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not do it?
Mr. RALPH. In the appropriation you generally specify so much
money for the printing.
The CIIAIRMAN. But under the Federal reserve act itself it makes
an indefinite appropriation for that. You have been printing the
Federal reserve notes out of the appropriation and getting repaid
for them?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You are not going to have two appropriations?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir.
FEDERAL RESERVE BAN K CURRENCY.
[See p. 227.]
Mr. BROUGHTON. There is another currency, known as the Federal
reserve bank note, for which no appropriation is made.
The CIIAIRMAN. There is no authority here. Any appropriation
made prior to the passage of the act was available.
Any appropriation heretofore made out of the general funds of the Treasury
for engraving plates and dies, the purchase of distinctive paper, or to cover any
other expense in connection with the printing of national-bank notes or notes
provided for by the act of May 30, 1908.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916, 205
Mr. RALPH. That refers to Federal reserve notes only. There is
another form of money that is going to replace the national-bank
: for which you give me an appropriation to print 14,000,000
sheets. *
The CHAIRMAN. This does not refer to Federal reserve notes?
Mr. BROUGHTON. We were of the same opinion, but the Comp.
troller of the Treasury in a decision rendered a month or two ago,
after the estimates were submitted, said that referred only to Fed-
eral reserve notes and that Federal reserve bank notes must be pre-
pared in the same manner as national-bank currency.
The CHAIRMAN. Please send us a copy of that decision.
Mr. BROUGHTON. We will be glad to send it to the committee.
Mr. RALPH. After treating upon the Federal reserve notes the act
reads:
|Upon the deposit with the Treasurer of the United States of bonds so pur-
chased, or any bonds with the circulating privilege acquired under section four
of this act, any Federal reserve bank making Such deposit in the manner pro-
vided by existing law, shall be entitled to receive from the Comptroller of the
Currency circulating notes in blank, registered and countersigned as provided
by law, equal in amount to the par value of the bonds so deposited. Such notes
shall be the obligations of the Federal reserve bank procuring the same, and
shall be in form prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury, and to the same
tenor and effect as national-bank notes now provided by law. They shall be
issued and redeemed under the Same terms and COnditions as national-bank
notes, except that they shall not be limited to the amount of the capital stock
Of the Federal reserve bank issuing them.
The CHAIRMAN. You say you have the opinion of the Comptroller? .
Mr. BROUGHTON. Yes, sir; and we will send it up. It is as follows:
TREASURY IDEPARTMENT,
Washington, October 12, 1914,
The SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY.
SIR : I have your letter of the Sth instant stating that it is necessary for the
department to proceed with the preparation of Federal reserve notes for the
use of the Federal reserve hanks, and requesting Inly (lecision of the following
questions: g - t
1. Does the provision in section 16 of the Federal reserve act of December 23,
1913, hereinafter quoted, authorize the use of “any funds in the Treasury not
otherwise appropriated ” to purchase equiplment, distinctive paper, and other
materials and to reimburse the bureau appropriations for cost of the work
involved in the preparation of said Federal reserve notes?
2. When Such notes are issued to the Federal reserve banks, should said
banks be required to reimburse the Treasury in full for the cost of producing
them 2
3. Is the department authorized to proceed with the preparatioſi of Federal
reserve bank notes in the same manner as is permitted for the preparation of
Federal reserve notes?
The Federal reserve notes referred to in the first question, Supra, are pro-
vided for in section 16 of the Federal reserve act, which reads in part as
follows:
“Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Federal Reserve
Board for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through
the Federal reserve agents, as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose,
are hereby authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United
States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal
reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and Other public dues. They shall
be redeemed in gold on demand at the Treasury Department of the United
States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or in gold or lawful
money at any Federal reservé bank. * * * *
In order to furnish suitable notes for circulation as Federal reserve notes
the Comptroller of the Currency shall, under the direction of the Secretary of
the Treasury, cause plates and dies to be engraved in the best manner to guard
against counterfeits and fraudulent alterations, and shall have printed there.
206 . SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
from and numbered such quantities of such notes of the denominations of $5,
$10, $20, $50, $100 as may be required to supply the Federal reserve banks.
Such notes shall be in form and tenor as directed by the Secretary of the
Treasury under the provisions of this act, and shall bear the distinctive mun-
bers of the several Federal reserve banks through which they are issued.
When Such notes have been prepared they shall be deposited in the Treasury
Or in the subtreasury or mint of the United States nearest the place of business
Of each Federal reserve bank, and shall be lueld for the use of such bank,
Subject to the order of the Comptroller of the Currency for their delivery,
as provided by this act. ..
The plates and dies to be procured by the Comptroller of the Currency for
the printing Of Such circulating notes shall relmain under his control “ and
direction, and the expenses necessarily incurred in executing the laws relating
to the procuring Of Such notes, and all other expenses incidental to their issue
and retirement, shall be paid by the Federal reserve banks, and the Federal
Reserve Board Shall include in its estimate of expenses levied against the Fed-
eral reserve banks a sufficient amount to cover the expenses herein provided
for.” •
::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: .
“Any appropriation heretofore made out of the general funds of the Treasury
for engraving plates and dies, the purchase of distinctive paper, or to cover
any other expense in Connection with the printing Of Inational-bank notes Ol:
notes provided for by the act of May thirtieth, nineteen hundred and eight,
and any distinctive paper that may be on hand at the time of the passage
of this act, may be useil, in the discretion of the Secretary, for the purpose
of this act ; and should the appropriations heretofore made be insufficient to
meet the requirements of this act, in addition ſo circulating notes provided for
by existing law, the Secretary is llereby authorized to use so much of any funds
in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated for the purpose of furnishing the
notes aforesaid : Provided, however, That nothing in this section contained shall
be construed as exempting national banks or Federal reserve banks from their
liability to reimburse the United States for any expenses incurred in printing
and issuing circulating notes. * * * *
It will be observed that the last paragraph of the above quotation provides
that
$& :k ::
should the appropriations heretofore made be insufficient to meet the
requirements of this act in addition to circulating notes provided for by exist-
ing law, the Secretary is hereby authorized to use so much of any funds in the
Treasury not otherwise appropriated for the purpose of furnishing the notes
aforesaid.” -
I understand from your submission that there is no available balance of any
of the appropriations referred to—that is to say, appropriations made prior to
December 23, 1913, for engraving plates and dies, the purchase of distinctive
paper, or to cover any other expense in COnnection with the printing of national-
bank motes or llotes Drovided for by the act of May 30, 3908—from which the
expense of preparing these Federal reserve notes Can be paid. If such be the
case, the provision above quoted clearly appropriates, and authorizes you to
expend, so much of any funds in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated as
may be necessary to furnish these Federal reserve notes.
You are advised, therefore, that in the absence of any other fund, the indefi-
nite appropriation thus made in Section 16 of the Federal l'eserve act is available
for the purchase of any equipment, distinctive paper, and other materials actu-
ally necessary in the preparation of these notes and for the reimbursement of
the bureau appropriations for the cost of the necessary work incident thereto.
That the Federal reserve banks should be required to reimburse the Treasury
in full for the cost of producing these Federal reserve notes there would appear
to be no room for reasonable doubt, in view, of that provision in the above-
quoted section which reads:
“* * * and the expenses necessarily incurred in executing the laws re-
lating to the procuring Of Such notes, and all other expenses incidental to their
issue and retirement, shall be paid by the Federal reserve banks and the Federal
Reserve Board shall include in its estimate of expenses levied against the Fed-
eral reserve banks a sufficient amount to cover the expenses herein provided for.”
The “estimate ’’ referred to in this provision is provided for in section 10
of the act, as follows:
“The Federal Reserve Board shall have power to levy semiannually upon
the Federal reserve banks, in proportion to their capital stock and surplus, an
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assessment Sufficient to pay its estimated expenses and the salaries of its
members and elmployees for the half year succeeding the levying of such assess-
ment, together with any deficit carried forward from the preceding half year
* * *.” (Sec. 10, p. 11.) . . . . -
As this provision authorizes the board to levy semiannually an assessment
Sufficient to pay its estimated expenses for the half year succeeding the levying
Of such assessment, and specifies how such assessments are to be apportioned
among the several reserve banks, there would appear to be no occasion for
Waiting until the notes are actually issued to the banks before requiring them
to pay for the expense of préparing and issuing said notes. Such expenses
should be estimated for and levied in advance the same as salaries, etc., and
if this be done and assessments be collected promptly the regular appropria-
tions of your department could be reimbursed from this fund direct, and there
would be, little or no necessity for using the appropriation made in section 16,
Supra. But in ally event, I think this law clearly contemplates that the re-
serve banks shall bear the entire expense of producing and issuing these Federal
reserve notes, and your second question is answered accordingly.
Your third question is answered in the negative. These Federal reserve-bank
notes are obligations, not of the United States, but of the Federal reserve banks
procuring them. The act does not provide in specific terms for the preparation
and furnishing Of these notes as it does With reference to the Federal reserve
notes, and the indefinite appropriation made in section 16 is not available for
the purpose of furnishing these notes.
The same procedure should be followed in the preparation of these notes as
is all thorized by law in the case of national-bank notes, and the reserve banks
should be required to pay the expense of producing these notes in the same man-
nel and to the same extent as national banks are required by law to pay the
expense of procuring national-bank notes.
This is clearly shown by a provision in section 18 of the act as follows:
“Upon the deposit with the Treasurer of the United States of bonds so pur-
chased, or any bonds with the circulating privilege acquired under section 4 of
this act, any Federal reserve bank making such deposit in the manner provided
for by existing law, shall be entitled to receive from the Comptroller of the
Currency circulating notes in blank, registered and countersigned as provided
by law, equal in amount to the par value of the bonds so deposited. Such notes
shall be the obligations of the Federal reserve bank procuring the same, and
shall be in form prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury and to the same
tenor and effect as national-ballk Inotes now provided by law. They shall be
issued and redeemed under the same terms and COmditions as national-bank
notes except that they slıall not be limited to the amount of the Capital Stock
Of the Federal reserve bank issuing them.”
See also the provision in section 4 to the effect that a Federal reserve bank,
as a body corporate, shall have power :
“Eighth. Upon deposit with the Treasurer of the United States of any bonds
of the United States in the manner provided by existing law relating to na:
tional banks, to receive from the Comptroller Of the Currency circulating notes
in blank, registered and countersigned as provided by law, equal in amount to
the par value of the bonds so deposited, such notes to be issued under the same
conditions and provisions of law as relate to the issue of circulating notes of
national banks secured by bonds of the United States bearing the circulating
privilege, except that the issue of such notes shall not be limited to the căpital
stock of such Federal reserve bank.”, (Sec. 4, p. 5.)
Respectfully, - &
GEO. E. Dow NEY, Comptroller.
The CHAIRMAN. You say you expect to deliver Federal reserve
bank notes?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you differentiate between the two classes
of notes? As & & a tº
Mr. RALPH. The Federal reserve, note is an obligation of the
United States Government issued through Federal reserve banks,
while Federal reserve bank currency is an obligation of the banks.
The CHAIRMAN. You distinguish them how !
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Mr. RALPH. As Federal reserve notes and Federal reserve bank
currency. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you want as much as 13,500,000 sheets?
Mr. RALPH. In 1916?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. RALPH. Well, by careful analysis we can only formulate an
opinion based on past experience. We find that it requires practi-
cally 13,500,000 sheets or 14,000,000 sheets to meet the current re-
demptions in the Comptroller of the Currency’s Office and for the
issue of currency to new banks chartered during the year.
RESTERVE OF BANIK NOTES.
[See p. 222.]
The CHAIRMAN. But now you have $500,000,000 of reserve that
you never had before. - -
Mr. RALPH. But it is being curtailed every day, and by the 1st of
July it will be curtailed to about $250,000,000.
º CHAIRMAN. And you had a reserve of bank notes outside of
that.
Mr. RALPH. Those are not bank notes. .
The CHAIRMAN. You had that outside of the 14,000,000 sheets
this year. You had $500,000,000 outside of that. How many
sheets was that?
Mr. RALPH. Twelve million sheets. That is, about 12,000,000
sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, you have $500,000,000 additional
Mr. RALPH (interposing). I see what you mean. We have an
appropriation for the present fiscal year for 14,000,000 sheets of
national bank currency. Now, I printed practically 12,000,000 sheets
of Federal reserve notes and about 7,000,000 sheets of currency, so
that, eliminating the Federal reserve notes, we have a balance of
6,500,000.
The ChairMAs. In addition to that, you had set aside $500,000,000
under the Aldrich-Vreeland Act that you could not use before
Mr. RALPH (interposing). Yes, sir; that was available for use.
The CHAIRMAN. You could not use it at all until you started to
issue emergency currency. That was a reserve, and you have a sit-
uation where all of that becomes available, as well as your reserve.
You printed $500,000,000 more, and you issued only $564,000,000 out
of $1,064,000,000.
Mr. RALPII. We have a reserve of about $620,000,000. That is
the reserve to-day. e •
The CHAIRMAN. You must have an enormous reserve. You had
12,000,000 sheets more than you ever had at any other time, and I
do not think you want anything now. ,
Mr. MALBURN. That $650,000,000 reserve will be exhausted by the
1st of July, and the reserve will be brought down to the normal
amount required to be issued in the place of unfit national-bank
notes that are sent in for redemption. New notes must be sent out
in their place, and that will practically wipe out that reserve.
The CHAIRMAN. As soon as that emergency currency was released,
the situation was that you had 12,000,000 sheets available in excess
of anything you had ever had before. -
Mr. RAI, Pri. We have had that $500,000,000 for several years.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 209
The CHAIRMAN. But it was not issued until recently.
Mr. RALPH. No, sir. - &
The CHAIRMAN. You had $500,000,000, and when you started to
issue it you had 12,000,000 sheets more. You issued $384,000,000
out of $1,064,000,000, and therefore you must have a tremendous
reserve. What could you do with it all? That money has not been
out long enough to be worn.
Mr. RALPH. The governor testified that they retire that money
IlOW.
The CHAIRMAN. They are retiring it, not because it is worn out
and has to be replaced. .
Mr. BURRE. It will not be destroyed.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you will have a tremendous reserve. This
is not a case of retiring money and issuing money in its place, but
you have this in excess of anything that you ever had available be-
fore. That is, 24,000,000 sheets, or practically a two years’ supply.
Mr. RALPH. But that is not available. There are only $620,000,000,
or practically 13,500,000 sheets, available at the present time, and it
is estimated that between now and the 1st of July they will draw
upon that reserve and reduce it to about $250,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How %
Mr. RALPH. To meet current redemptions.
The CHAIRMAN. You will have to explain that very satisfactorily
before you get 14,000,000 sheets. -
Mr. MAIBURN. We are redeeming all the time a substantial volume
of bank circulation. -
The CHAIRMAN. You could do that without any trouble and not
touch this reserve at all.
Mr. MALBURN. That is where it comes from. .
The CHAIRMAN. You are going to deliver 4,000,000 sheets less,
but you had 24,000,000 sheets more.
Mr. RALPH. Twelve million sheets of that has gone into circula-
tion.
The CHAIRMAN. Not all of it. .
Mr. RALPH. Now, analyzing the conditions confronting me, if I
am not called upon to print the estimated quantity of national-bank
currency for the Comptroller of the Currency, it looks to me as
though I would have the money equivalent to the value and cost of
printing 4,000,000 sheets unexpended. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What reserve did you have on the 1st of July,
1914, in national-bank notes? -
Mr. RALPH. On July 1, 1914, we had practically $500,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not mean in emergency currency,
Mr. RALPH. It is all the same money.
The CHAIRMAN. But We had that segregated and put aside in
effect. The law required it to be done, and it was printed and put
there and never drawn on. -
Mr. RALPH. No, sir–
EMERGEN CY CURRENCY.
[See p. 201.]
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I know what I am speaking of,
and I can prove that by your own statements. You had $500,000,000
72785—15—14 -
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of money under the Aldrich-Vreeland Act that was put aside. Now,
what reserve did you have outside of that in national-bank notes on
the 1st of July, 1914? ;
Mr. RALPH. That is the very question that came up—
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Can't you tell me that?
Mr. RALPH. You discussed that
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Give it to me in my own way:
How much, outside of that $500,000,000, did you have on the 1st of
July, 1914?
Mr. RALPH. We did not have any of this emergency currency in
our working balance. I am speaking for the Comptroller of the
Currency’s office here. Two years ago this committee anticipated
that we then had $500,000,000 of emergency currency, and that on
the expiration of the Aldrich-Vreeland Act that currency would be.
available to replace money, or available to be issued for redemption.
It was anticipated that there would be effected an economy in the
Bureau of Engraving and Printing in issuing that money. The
act was extended for another year, and, due to the inquiries made
by Mr. Fitzgerald, the Secretary of the Treasury tried to curtail
on the reserve called for by the Aldrich-Vreeland Act; so he issued
an order to the Comptroller of the Currency that in order to comply
with the law any orders to print in the possession of the Bureau of
Engraving and Printing might be considered as a part of the reserve
under the act. So that we cut that reserve down from $600,000,-
000—you see, we had $150,000,000 that we had carried as a working
balance—we cut the comptroller's balance from $650,000,000 to prac-
tically $500,000,000
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Then you have an increase of
2,000,000 sheets over 1914 in national-bank notes. In 1914 you had
12,000,000 sheets and in 1915, 14,000,000 sheets. So that you started
out this year with an ample supply of national-bank notes
Mr. RALPEI (interposing). You were talking about the Treasurer’s
reserve. At the close of the fiscal year 1914 on last 1st of July the
Comptroller of the Currency had issued to me, orders in excess of
the estimated 12,000,000 sheets to the amount of 3,000,000 sheets, so
that when the fiscal year closed I had orders for 3,000,000 sheets
undelivered in excess of the estimated quantity. So that, taking
those orders that were unfilled for the year 1914 and applying them
to the present year, I started on July 1 of this fiscal year with orders
for 3,000,000 sheets on my books undelivered, brought over from the
previous year. That is the reason we got that increase of 2,000,000
sheets. :
The CHAIRMAN. Starting on the 1st of July, you, still had $500,-
600,000 under the Aldrich-Vreeland Act.
Mr. RALPH. I want to call attention to the fact that in 1914, while
we had estimated for 12,000,000 sheets, we delivered 13,500,000
sheets. -
The CHAIRMAN. Commencing on July 1, 1914, you had $500,000,-
000 of emergency currency set aside, and it was not touched. You
have printed since then $564,000,000
Mr. RALPH. No, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You have printed $384,000,000, so that you have
nearly $900,000,000. -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 211
Mr. BUELL. The current issues to replace redemptions were taken
º of that same amount, and they run pretty heavy—$1,500,000
a Clay. • -
The CHAIRMAN. The current issues of what?
Mr. BUELL. The current issues to national banks to replace worn-
Out notes. : --
The CHAIRMAN. You issued 8,000,000 sheets under the current ap-
propriation in addition to that.
ti Mr. RALPH. That is for new notes and to meet current redemp-
IOI).S. *
The CHAIRMAN. You started off this year with this $500,000,000
thrown into your reserve that you never had before, and, in addi-
tion to that, you got out of the permanent appropriation $564,-
000,000, and now you are asking for practically the same amount
for next year.
Mr. RALPH. No, sir. The redemptions next year will be at least
15 or 20 per cent in excess of the redemptions this year because of
the greater volume of money in circulation. -
The CHAIRMAN. But when you redeem these national-bank notes
you are not reissuing notes in their place?
Mr. RALPH. To the extent of about $1,500,000 a day.
The CHAIRMAN. They are not like Treasury notes. When you
take a Treasury note in and destroy it you issue another one in its
place, but you do not issue notes in place of these national-bank
notes.
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; we do. When they retire this emergency
currency it goes out of circulation.
Mr. BUELL. There are about six or seven hundred millions of na-
tional-bank notes outstanding over and above the amount issued as
emergency currency.
The CHAIRMAN. And you have all of this emergency currency that
you can use in that way?
Mr. BUELL. Yes, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Therefore you have over $600,000,000 of reserve
that you never had before. -
Mr. BUELL. That is about the balance we have been carrying since
the passage of the Aldrich-Vreeland Act.
The CHAIRMAN. And that is in your currency reserve
Mr. RALPH (interposing). Not until the 1st of next July.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not persuade me that I am wrong about
it, because I know I am right. That $500,000,000 was never avail-
able for current redemptions, but as soon as you put it into circula-
tion as emergency currency it gave you that great volume of reserve
that you never had before. You printed in addition $564,000,000,
and that currency when retired does not require the reissue of notes
in its place unless it is taken out again. You use it interchangeably
with some of your other notes. Is that so?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir. Under normal conditions the Camptroller
of the Currency’s office handles about $550,000,000 every year for
current redemptions, and, while they will retire that emergency cur-
rency, it is my judgment that the comptroller will reduce that sur-
plus from six hundred and some odd million dollars to practically
$300,000,000 by July 1 in current redemptions of money sent in by
212 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
the banks for redemption. National banks have to deposit 5 per
cent of their capital with the Comptroller of the Currency * ,
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). You are running away from the
whole thing. You do not get at it at all. I said they have over
$600,000,000 of notes now on hand that are available that they never
had before and in excess of everything they ever had before.
Mr. RALPH. Not in excess.
The CHAIRMAN. In excess of everything they ever had before.
Mr. RALPH. They have had a working balance of $150,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. And you reduced that because you did not need it.
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
. CHAIRMAN. You still have $600,000,000 that you never had
before. - -
Mr. RALPH. $500,000,000 under the Aldrich-Vreeland Act is avail-
able to June 30, but the Secretary of the Treasury, in response to
financial conditions, may be called upon to issue that.
The CHAIRMAN. By that time the Federal reserve system will be
in force. -
Mr. RALPH. The Aldrich-Vreeland Act will expire on June 30,
and they expect to reduce that reserve by $200,000,000 by that time.
They can use that to a large extent next year, but under the Federal
reserve act, which replaces the Aldrich-Vreeland Act, the Comp-
troller of the Currency must have a working balance to meet any
exigencies that he might be called upon to meet by the Federal re-
serve banks. The Federal reserve banks might want to issue Fed-
eral reserve currency and not emergency currency
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). It is my judgment that with that
additional volume of money that you never had before you can not
possibly need practically the same number of sheets for this national-
bank currency that you had this year, which is the highest you ever
had in your history. You gentlemen can work out any explanation
that you can -
Mr. RALPH (interposing). With your permission, I will prepare
a full history of it and put it in the record.
| Memorandum regarding “Emergency currency.”
-> -
WASHINGTON, January 2, 1915.
The act of May 30, 1908 (the so-called Aldrich-Vreeland Act) provided in
section 11 for changing the form of national-bank notes So they shall state upon
their face that they are secured by United States bonds or other securities, and
directed the Comptroller of the Currency, as soon as practicable, to prepare
circulating notes to an amount equal to 50 per cent Of the Capital stock Of
each national banking association ; and in Section 5 provided that the total
amount of circulating notes outstanding of any national banking association,
including notes secured by United States bonds and notes Secured otherwise
than by the deposit of such bonds shall not at any time exceed the amount of
its unimpaired capital and surplus, and a further restriction that there shall not
be outstanding at any one time more than $500,000,000 of additional circulation
was imposed.
Accordingly a reserve stock of national-bank notes was established, which
amounted to something over $500,000,000. No differentiation was made in the
reserve stock between notes that might be issued upon the security of United
States bonds and those that might be issued upon Other Security.
The act of August 4, 1914, authorized circulation for each national bank to
an amount of 125 per cent of its unimpaired capital and surplus, which circula-
tion was to include bond-secured circulation. Accordingly the department inn-
mediately took steps to increase the reserve stock of national-bank notes So as
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 213
to be in a position promptly to meet any demands that might be made upon it.
Consequently Since the 1st of August something over $600,000,000 has been
added to the reserve, which, together with the reserve on hand on August 1 of
about the Same amount, brought the total up to about $1,200,000,000. However,
Since the 1st of August approximately $514,000,000 have been issued, and the
reServe to-day amounts to approximately $686,000,000. This reserve is drawn
upon Whenever any issues of national-bank notes are made, and as unfit notes
are redeemed and fit notes are issued in their places in so far as the fit notes are
available in the reserve they are issued. The department contemplates gradu-
ally reducing this reserve until it reaches a normal basis, estimated for the
7,500 national banks at about $250,000,000. This should be reached by the end
Of the current fiscal year, and thereafter the normal demands only will need
be met.
During the fiscal year 1914 something Over $706,000,000 in national-bank notes
were presented for redemption. This represented approximately 72,000,000
notes, or 18,000,000 sheets. Four hundred and ninety million dollars of these
notes, or 50,000,000 notes, or 12,500,000 sheets, were unfit for circulation and
were destroyed, being replaced by new notes. This was the normal demand
for new notes during the fiscal year last closed, and does not include any new
In Otes issued for new Circulation.
Mr. RALPH. In the present fiscal year I am going to deliver to the
Comptroller of the Currency 4,000,000 sheets less than is provided
for in the appropriation for the present fiscal year. The Comp-
troller of the Currency is going to issue Federal reserve currency
notes, and he has got to have a working stock. I say that 4,000,000
sheets would be a small balance for him, because he can not Wait to
deliver the currency to the Federal reserve banks, and he has got to
have a working stock. Now, I will take the money representing that,
if there are no legal objections to it, and print for him 4,000,000
sheets of Federal reserve bank currency. We will have that on the
1st of July, and in addition to that we will have about $300,000,000
of emergency currency. The question resolves itself next into this:
How much Federal reserve currency will you issue? That, I can
not say. It is problematical, but I believe We can draw upon the
Federal reserve for three million additional. It is quite problemati-
cal, but the Federal reserve act will be of no value to this country
unless we have a reserve stock of Federal reserve currency in the
comptroller's office. When the banks call for the money they ought
to have it. & *
The CHAIRMAN. Are the Aldrich-Vreeland notes to be discarded
after June 30%
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; they will be issued to take the place of current
redemptions to a large extent.
NATIONAL-BANIX NOTES.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those notes to be interchangeable with ordi-
nary national-bank notes? -
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Therefore, you will have that volume of national-
bank notes in excess of anything you ever had before. You will
have $200,000,000 in national-bank notes.
Mr. RALPH. You are speaking about the Federal reserve notes?
The CHAIRMAN. No, sir; I am talking about national-bank notes.
On the 1st of next July you will have $200,000,000 of natioanl-bank
notes.
Mr. BUELL. We plan to carry a working balance of $150,000,000.
214 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. On the 1st of next July, you will have $200,000,000
of national-bank notes—is that so? •
Mr. BUELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And your estimate was for a reserve of no more
than forty or fifty million dollars, and the reason given why the re-
serve was reduced from $150,000,000 was because it was absurd to
carry over forty or fifty million dollars in reserve. That statement
was made here, that it was absured to carry such a balance.
b . BUELL. There is a larger number of banks. There are 7,500
a,IlkS.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand, but that was the reserve. Now,
you are going to have over $200,000,000 or an amount largely in ex-
cess of that, but with all of that additional volume of notes you still
say that you need just the same amount next year that you had this
year, although you have practically available this year what was
the output of 24,000,000 sheets that you never had at any other time.
IFEDERAL RESERVE NOTES.
[See pp. 201, 227.]
Mr. RALPH. The Federal reserve banks are asking for $250,000,000
of Federal reserve notes. They are asking for that many out of us
and are paying for the printing of them, and at the present time we
have only issued four million. We must issue that $250,000,000
The CHAIRMAN. You will have it on hand. You do not need that
many sheets.
Mr. RALPH. We will not need that many sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you estimated how many they will require?
Mr. RALPH (interposing). With my experience I can not say what
they will need next year, because of the issuing of Federal reserve
bank currency, but I believe that for the balance of this fiscal year
we ought to print a substantial stock to have on hand. That is a
question the comptroller can best determine. I call attention to
this fact, that whatever money is appropriated, it ought to be stated
in the act itself that it is for one or both of these notes—that is,
Federal reserve bank currency and national-bank currency.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not have both; you must have it for One
or the other. You must have some system by which we can have
some knowledge of what is being done.
Mr. RALPII. The act does not specify any class of work.
The CHAIRMAN. You say your estimate includes 80,000,000 sheets
for Treasury notes?
Mr. RALPH. For the present year 74,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the supply on hand on the 1st of July?
Mr. BURRE. Of United States notes on, the 15th of December this
year we had $63,740,000—
The CHAIRMAN. Is that money? "
Mr. BURRE. That is money in the reserve vault. We had $63,740,-
000 as against $49,230,000 in United States notes on December 15
of last year. Of gold certificates, on the 15th of December of this
year we had $263,030,000, as against $148,620,000 on December 15 a
year ago. Of silver certificates we had on hand on the 15th of
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 215
December of this year $73,332,000, as against $30,700,000 on the same
date a year ago. That makes a total of $400,102,000 on December
15 of this year, as against $228,550,000 last year.
The CHAIRMAN. You have increased very largely .
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir. That is, of course, on account of the addi-
tional currency that we put out.
The CHAIRMAN. For Treasury notes, your estimate last year was
for seventy or eighty million sheets?
Mr. RALPH. Eighty million sheets. -
nº CHAIRMAN. And we appropriated on the basis of 70,000,000
Sheets'
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; and you gave us a deficiency.
The CHAIRMAN. For what? -
Mr. RALPH. For practically 4,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. We did not give you all you asked ?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much was it?
Mr. RALPH. The sum you gave us represented about 4,000,000
sheets, and we asked a deficiency of 10,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is not 75,000,000 sheets enough next year,
considering the large increase you have in your reserve? You have
an unusual reserve of United States notes.
Mr. BURRE. It is an unusually large reserve.
The CHAIRMAN. Then why should you ask for 80,000,000 sheets?
Mr. BURRE. I have stated that I thought there might be a reduc-
tion of 10,000,000 sheets. If we do not need it, we do not want it.
I think perhaps that you ought to consult the Reserve Board in
reference to the amount of money that will be issued by them next
year. All of those things should be taken into consideration, because
when the Federal reserve currency comes out it will be placed in
circulation.
The CHAIRMAN. Has anybody been to see the Federal Reserve
Board about that?
Mr. RALPH. Mr. Malburn and I have been in close touch with
them.
The CHAIRMAN. What is their status?
Mr. MALBURN. They wanted $250,000,000 in Federal reserve notes,
and I presume they will want $250,000,000 in Federal reserve bank
notes.
Mr. RALPH. They have the Federal reserve notes y
Mr. MALBURN (interposing). They have about $16,000,000 of
Federal reserve notes in circulation. That has already been printed.
I think what the governor means is they will have to know what
amount they will have in circulation in order to tell what amount
of money they will need for next year. -
The CHAIRMAN. They have $250,000,000 in Federal reserve notes;
do they make any statement as to the amount of Federal reserve
bank notes they want?
Mr. MALBURN. They have not yet.
Mr. RALPH. They are working on that now, and my judgment is
that they will ask for about $250,000,000 of Federal reserve bank
notes, which will require about 6,000,000 sheets.
216 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
L’APEIR I'OIR INTERN AL-RIEVENTUE STAMIPS–WAR REVEN UE STAMIPS.
[See pp. 232, 241.]
The CHAIRMAN. Have you included internal-revenue stamps in
here? -
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. ,
The CHAIRMAN. You are estimating on an increase of over
3,000,000 sheets? -
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that? -
Mr. RALPII. This estimate was made by the Internal Revenue
Bureau.
The CHAIRMAN. Does that include war tax stamps?
Mr. RALPTI. No, sir. When I revised the estimates or curtailed
the estimates, 10,000,000 sheets of United States notes and certificates,
I included the War tax stamps, and I made a net reduction of
$143,441.
The CITAIRMAN. That includes the war revenue stamps?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; it is estimated that they will want about
9,000,000,000 stamps.
The CITAIRMAN. For when .
Mr. RALPH. For the next fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. How many will they want for this fiscal year?
Mr. RALP11. They will have six or seven billion stamps this year.
That is only estimated. -
The CHAIRMAN. Next year they will want only about 5,000,000,000
stamps, because the law runs for only half a year. We do not ap-
propriate beyond the period of the law, and you can not ask us to
do that. - -
Mr. RALPII. I want to say that the war tax measure will bring in
considerably over $100,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not want stamps for use after the law
ceases. You have included in your estimate stamps for the entire
fiscal year 1916.
Mr. RALP11. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. And the law expires by its own terms on the 31st
of December. How much is your estimate for war revenue stamps?
Suppose you separate that.
Mr. RALPH. In 1915 we estimated for 74,000,000 United States
notes and certificates, while in 1916 we estimate for 80,000,000; in
1915 we estimated for 14,000,000 national-bank notes, while in 1916 we
are asking an appropriation for 13,500,000; in 1915 we estimated for
internal-revenue stamps 86,765,459, while for 1916 we estimate 89,-
949,623; of internal-revenue stamps, under the act of October 22, 1914,
no appropriation was made for 1915, but we estimate for 8,000,000 for
1916; for checks, drafts, and miscellaneous we had 1,986,156 in 1915,
while the estimate for 1916 is 2,405,180; for postage stamps the esti-
mate for 1915 was 129,261,811, while the estimate for 1916 is 131,-
502,401. The total appropriation for 1915 was for 306,013,426, as
against our estimate of 325,357,204 for 1916.
The bureau, in the current fiscal year, 1915, has been called on to
deliver work not appropriated for, as follows: Emergency national-
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 217
bank notes, Federal reserve notes, and internal-revenue stamps under
the act of October 22, 1914.
Eleven million three hundred and forty-four thousand four hun-
dred and twenty-nine sheets of emergency bank notes were printed
and delivered in August, September, and October, and the printing
and delivering of the order for 6,587,500 sheets of Federal reserve
notes will be completed in this month of December, 1914.
Two million six hundred and ninety-eight thousand two hundred
and eighteen sheets of the new revenue stamps have been printed and
delivered up to and including December 12, 1914, and it is probable
that this bureau will be required to furnish a total for the current
year of 7,000,000 sheets and a total of 8,000,000 sheets for the fiscal
year 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. That is for the whole year?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. We have estimated for 1916 an item of
$95,000 for the printing of those stamps, and the quantity of paper
that we estimate to print this year is rather uncertain, but I feel sure
it will run to 7,000,000 sheets.
I will give this committee and the Government my best endeavors
to try and get along this year without a deficiency, having in mind
that possibly I will not use all of the money for national-bank cur-
rency. I am giving my best and most honest endeavors to bring
that about. .
The CHAIRMAN. You are printing the war-revenue stamps without
any increase in the appropriation this year?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; and without any authority in law. Mr.
Mondell spoke about the printing of the Federal reserve bank notes
without authority of law, and I have no authority in law to print the
War-tax stamps. After months and months of deliberation Congress
passed that bill, and it included an item of $30,000 for the purchase
of the paper. It gave the Commissioner of Internal Revenue author-
ity, in the event the Bureau of Engraving and Printing could not
print those stamps, to make contracts with outside firms. When the
House passed that bill, anticipating that there would be a demand
for those stamps, I prepared dies, and I had some of the stamps
delivered and in the possession of collectors of internal revenue 25
days before the law became effective. If every citizen in the United
States did not get what documentary, proprietary, and Wine stamps
he needed on the day that law became operative, it was not the fault
of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. Furthermore, I want it
to be made a matter of record for this committee that I am printing
these internal-revenue stamps for one-half of what was required for
printing them in 1898. I am printing the internal-revenue stamps
without the purchase of any additional machinery and without any
opportunity for equipping ourselves. We are Working 24 hours a
day on them, and I am printing them for a little over 24 cents per
thousand, when, as I told you, postage stamps cost us 5 cents per
thousand.
The CHAIRMAN. You are printing these internal-revenue stamps
out of the appropriation made for this current fiscal year without
having contemplated that you would do that work?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
218 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. And you have included in your estimates for next
year an item of $95,000 required to print the 9,000,000 sheets for the
entire fiscal year?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. I will explain that: I had no idea when I
prepared this estimate—because the first information I got, that came
from the comptroller’s office, was that they would not want any
Federal reserve bank notes for at least a year—that I would require
anything for printing those notes, and I anticipated using the money
that represented the 4,000,000 sheets for printing the war tax stamps.
The CHAIRMAN. You printed 4,000,000 sheets of bank notes
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Will you use up your appropriation?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; and then I will have to have a deficiency.
The CHAIRMAN. But for next year you have that taken care of ?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING,
January 4, 1915.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
FIouse of Representatives.
SIR : Referring to the Sundry civil estimates for this bureau now under con-
sideration by your committee, I desire to call your attention to the economy that
bas been effected in the operation of this bureau since the fiscal year 1910 by
reduction in the sizes of certain revenue stamps and the increased number of
stamps to the plates. 3. -
*The deliveries of internal-revenue Stamps in the fiscal year 1914 aggregated
only 80,195,136 sheets, as compared with the 86,713,262 sheets delivered in 1910.
This would seem to indicate a decrease in the use of these stamps, but as a
matter of fact the lesser number of sheets delivered in 1914 contained 850,000,000
more Stamps than were contained in the sheets delivered in 1910.
The cost of printing the number of revenue stamps estimated to be required
in the fiscal year 1916 would be $130,000 more than the amount included in the
estimates now before your Committee if they were printed with the same
number of stamps to the plates as they were prior to 1910.
The following list of stamps shows the number of stanps printed to each plate
now and prior to 1910:
^
Nº ºvºr Prior to
Now. | * ºb.
Stub tobacco-----------------------------------------------------------------------. 16 5
Sheet tobacco. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------- 25 12
Strip cigar, 12S to 50s. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30 10
Strip cigar, 100s... ------------------------------------------------------------------ 15 10
Strip cigar, 200s to 500S-------------------------------------------------------------- 15 5
Sheet Cigar-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 200 96
Small cigarette---------------------------------------------------------------------- 200 80
Playing card.----------------------------------------------------------------------- 400 200
Sheet beer.-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30 20
Wholesale liquor dealer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | 4 3
Distillery warehouse. . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------------------------------------------- S 4
Customs. Wine and malt liquor. ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 2
|
Respectfully,
J. E. RALPH, Director.
CUSTOM'S STAMPs, CHECKS, AND DRAFTs.
The CHAIRMAN. In customs stamps there is a falling off in your
estimate. You estimate the number required
Mr. RALPH (interposing). I thought it was increased consider-
ably. In the matter of the customs stamps, I want the committee
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to know that a year ago there was a provision of law enacted which
permitted manufacturers of cigars to paste on their boxes a stamp
which would indicate that the contents of the box were manufac-
tured from tobacco that was in bond. There was no provision made
for an appropriation, and the Government Printing Office would
not print those stamps. They came down to the bureau, and I printed
those stamps by the offset process. That offset process is the one
that you and I discussed three years ago, Mr. Chairman, when you
were talking about putting it in the Hydrographic Office and the
Weather Bureau. We have three of those presses working on the
war-tax stamps, customs stamps, and checks. Now, it costs me about
10 cents per thousand to produce those stamps, and I find that the
customs department is charging the manufacturers about $1.50 per
thousand. That same thing is true with regard to internal-revenue
stamps. I estimate that of the internal-revenue receipts turned in
last year about $260,000 represented repayments by the distillers and
bottlers of Whisky in bond for stamps that I printed. Those bottles
have that little strip over the top indicating the year in which the
whisky was bottled and the proof. The customs department charges
them 10 cents a case for those stamps. I am printing them as in-
ternal-revenue stamps, and they have that return of about $260,000
a year from them. I merely mention that because I believe that
as a matter of business practice and policy that money ought to be
repaid just the same as any other money paid to the bureau for its
Operations.
The CHAIRMAN. You want to demonstrate that your bureau is a
revenue producer?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; I claim that.
The CHAIRMAN. For customs stamps, checks, and drafts you esti-
mated for the last fiscal year -
Mr. RALPH (interposing). In 1915 we had for checks, drafts, and
miscellaneous 1,986,000, and in 1916 I am asking 2,405,180. There
is an increase there. ... •
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you had 3,648,000.
Mr. RALPH. We have been effecting an economy this year in the
printing of checks. I am printing checks now with a greater number
on a sheet than we did before. We used to have two or three or
four checks on a sheet. I am now printing 30 stamps on a sheet
where heretofore, we printed only 20. So that we effect an economy
there of practically 25 or 30 per cent.
CHIEFS OF DIVISION S.
The CHAIRMAN. You propose four new chiefs of divisions under
this item?
Mr. RALPH. I drop out a superintendent there of four divisions,
and I appoint chiefs, respectively, for each division, and I effect an
economy there of something like $2,000.
CUSTODY OF DIES, ROLLS, AND PLATES.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to transfer to this appropriation
from “Miscellaneous objects” $8,400. t
Mr. RALPH. That is for the custody of dies, rolls, and plates.
220 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that? -
Mr. RALPH. The Secretary of the Treasury believes that it will
afford better administrative efficiency to have him transferred and
placed under the direction of the director of the bureau rather than
have him as he is now, under the direction of the Chief of the Loans
and Currency Division, whose office is in the Treasury Building.
hº CHAIRMAN. That simply transfers them, but it does not abolish
them . - - --"
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; it does not abolish them. We have the divi-
sion there.
b The CHAIRMAN. I thought you said there was an economy effected
y it. -
sº RALPH. We do away with the custodian, who formerly got,
“poºvvv.
The CHAIRMAN. You have two at $2,000?
Mr. RALPH. I will not pay that $2,000 to those two men. If you
transfer it I will probably reduce the force by one man.. Congress
increased the pay of one of these men last year by $200.
The CHAIRMAN. How much would that $8,400 worth of service
cost you?
Mr. RALPH. Well, I will probably effect an economy of $1,200 or
more. There are men in other divisions that I would detail to help
them in busy times, and I would reduce the force.
PRINTING OF NOTES OF LARGER DENOMINATIONS THIAN NOTES RETIRED.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask again to drop out that proviso.
Mr. RALPEI. I can not see any wisdom in continuing that proviso
on the statute books. It does not prevent the Treasurer or the Bu-
reau of Engraving and Printing from printing money of large de-
nominations. 4. *
The CHAIRMAN. There had always been a tendency to print the
larger denominations until that proviso was put in.
Mr. RALPH. Has the Treasurer made a recommendation for a $5
gold certificate? -
Mr. BURRE. Yes.
Mr. RALPH. As to the question of that provision preventing the
issuing of large denominations .
Mr. BURRE (interposing). What is the proviso?
The CHAIRMAN. The proviso reads: •
Provided, That no portion of this sum shall be expended for printing United
States notes or Treasury notes of larger denomination than those that may be
Canceled Or retired, except in so far as such printing may be necessary in
executing the requirements of the act, “To define and fix the standard of value,
to maintain the parity of all forms of money issued or coined by the United
States, to refund the public debt, and for other purposes,” approved March
14, 1900. t .
Mr. BURRE. There is a great demand for bills of small denomina-
tion, especially in crop-moving times
The CHAIRMAN. This does not affect that. This prevents the
printing of notes of large denominations in place of notes of Small
denominations. $ -
Mr. BURRE. Has there been any objection urged to issuing a $5
gold certificate? -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 221
The CHAIRMAN. There was a tendency when notes of small de-
nominations came in for redemption to issue in their place notes of
larger denominations.
Mr. BURRE. I think the $2 silver certificate might be abolished, as
it is very unpopular.
The CHAIRMAN. That is merely a matter of administration, of
COUII’Se.
Mr. RALPH. I strongly urged the retirement of the $2 certificate.
The CHAIRMAN. That is a matter of administration, is it not?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; the Secretary of the Treasury can do that.
WITNESS OF DESTRUCTION OF SECURITIES.
The CHAIRMAN. We have a committee to witness the destruction of
motes and Securities; is one appointed in your bureau?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much does he get?
Mr. RALPH. $1,800, I think.
The CHAIRMAN. How much are they paid in the Treasury De-
partment?
Mr. CourTS. $5 per day. You will find that on page 68.
Mr. BURRE. On the days they work.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for that committee?
Mr. RALPH. That comes within the Secretary’s office, and the Direc-
tor of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing has nothing to do with
that committee. Mr. Broughton perhaps has more to do with that
than anyone else present.
Mr. BROUGHTON. That committee receives all redeemed currency
after it is finally counted and proceeds to destroy it.
The CHAIRMAN. They actually receive it?
Mr. BROUGHTON. They actually receive it and put it in the mascera-
tor and see it destroyed.
The CHAIRMAN. How long does it take them every day?
Mr. BROUGHTON. It takes them from three to six hours a day.
The CHAIRMAN. I never saw one of them within 100 feet of a
mascerator.
Mr. BROUGHTON. The committee goes to the mascerators. They
go to the comptroller’s office for the destruction of the national-
bank notes and to the bureau for the destruction of United States
currency, and to the navy yard once a week to witness the destruction
of stamps.
The CHAIRMAN. There was a request made that that item be trans-
ferred to the legislative bill, but it was not done. Is there any law
authorizing this? -
Mr. BROUGHTON. None that I know of. There is a committee pro-
vided by law for the destruction of national-bank notes, but this
representative of the public is not required by law to appear on that
committee, though, as a matter of department practice, this special
witness is a member of the committee witnessing the destruction of
national-bank notes. ;
Mr. MoRDELL. Did I understand you to say that this representative
does not actually appear?
Mr. BROUGHTON. This representative appears on the committee Wit-
nessing the destruction of all securities handled by the Secretary.
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PRINTING OF NOTES FOR RESERVE SUPPLY.
[See p. 208.]
Mr. MONDELL. I am not entirely clear with regard to the use to
which you propose to put all of the sheets that you estimate for.
I notice that you estimate for 80,000,000 sheets for United States
notes and certificates, and I understand that those are to be used for
printing United States notes, otherwise known as greenbacks, and
silver and gold certificates. Now, there are no United States notes
issued except as notes are destroyed and notes are issued to take the
place of the notes destroyed; is that true?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; we only issue United States notes to replace
those sent in for redemption when those notes are canceled or de-
stroyed. -
Mr. MoRDELL. What kind of stock do you keep on hand, or do you
keep any stock on hand to take the place of those United States notes
that are destroyed? What is your mode of operation?
Mr. RALPH. The Treasurer of the United States will have in his
reserve vault United States notes, or these legal-tender notes referred
to as greenbacks. The denominations are fives and tens, and when
they send in notes for redemption they may send in one hundred $10
notes and ask for two hundred $5 notes in place of them, and the
Treasurer would make that exchange.
Mr. MoRDELL. He takes out of his reserve enough notes to take the
place of those destroyed?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And he thereupon calls on you for an equal number
of notes to take the place of them?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir; that is the procedure.
Mr. MoRDELL. And you print from day to day a sufficient quantity
of notes to supply the demand on his reserve?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Now, in the case of gold and silver certificates, they
are issued for two reasons - *
Mr. BURKE. As you are asking about that, here is the way that is
done—here is our order sheet [indicating]. -
Mr. MoRDELL. I have not reached that point yet. I asked him
about the facts. Now, as to your silver and gold certificates, they are
issued, as I understand, for two reasons: First, they are issued
to pay for bullion deposited. That is true, is it not, Governor'
Mr. BURRE. That is one purpose; yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is one purposes for which you issue notes?
Mr. BURRE. And we redeem
Mr. MoRNDELL (interposing). I understand, but do not anticipate.
When bullion is deposited you issue gold certificates; that is, when
gold bullion is deposited?
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir. - .
Mr. MoRDELL. And you take the notes out of your reserve to make
that payment? -
Mr. BURRE. The bullion is paid for with money that is in circula-
tion. The money in reserve vault is to replace money redeemed.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 223
Mr. MoRDELL. Now, in that case you must call for an equal amount
of certificates to make good the certificates you have taken out of
your reserve?
Mr. BURKE. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. And you do that on the form that you handed me?
Mr. BURRE. Yes. -
Mr. MoRDELL. In case these gold or silver certificates are sent in
to be destroyed, because they are no longer fit for circulation, you
pay out of your reserve in the same way?
Mr. BURRE. Yes. -
Mr. MONDELL. And then call for enough new notes to take the
place of those paid out?
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MONDELL. In other words, your reserve is simply a reservoir
from which you make these payments temporarily and then you
refill in exactly the same amount as you took out?
Mr. BURKE. Yes.
Mr. MONDELL. As a matter of fact, then, it does not make a particle
of difference, so far as the number of silver or gold certificates, or
national-bank notes that may be needed to be printed in the year are
concerned, whether your reserve of each or all of them is 5,000,000
or 500,000,000, because the amount of your reserve has nothing
whatever to do with the amount of those notes that will be needed
other than it might affect the amount of wear? Of course, if you
had all the gold certificates and all the silver certificates and all the
greenbacks in the Treasury they would not be worn out.
Mr. BURRE. Those amounts in circulation -
Mr. MoRDELL (interposing). But the amount that you have in
reserve has no relation whatever to the amount that may be needed
to be printed in the year? - -
Mr. BURKE. No. Well, it has in a way, too, because the larger the
reserve the less it will be necessary to print.
Mr. MONDELL. Oh, no. The amount of your reserve has not any-
thing to do with the amount that you have to print.
Mr. BURRE. That reserve money, of course, is not in circulation.
Mr. MONDELL. I understand; but you would not print new gold
certificates except for two purposes—either to pay somebody for
bullion or to take the place of certificates you have destroyed.
Mr. BURRE. But we must have a large reserve, because we may
have to pay out more for bullion.
Mr. MONDELL. I understand; but you must put it right back.
Mr. BURRE. Yes. -
Mr. MoRDELI. Every gold certificate you have is simply the de-
nominator of some gold bullion somewhere?
Mr. BURRE. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. You can not have a single one of those out; you
can not destroy it or use it for some other purpose; you have got to
put it back again. - -
Mr. BURRE. Well, the reserve is not always the same.
Mr. MoRDELL, I understand; and this is why your reserve is not
always the same: Because there is a great demand for the gold, and
you have paid out the gold and you have got the certificates. Now,
224 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
when there is not any considerable demand for the gold, the gold
will come back to you and you will have the gold and the certificates
will be out. That is the only difference; you either have the gold or
the certificates.
Mr. BURRE. I do not think it is altogether on account of there
being a demand for gold; there is not much of a demand for gold
coin except in the western part of the country.
Mr. MoRDELL. So far as this token money is concerned, you have
it in one form or another all the time, do you not
Mr. BURRE. Yes.
Mr. MONDELL. You either have the gold or the certificates?
Mr. BURRE. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. And all you have to do is to switch it; if you have
less certificates you have more gold? * s
The CHAIRMAN. No. -
Mr. MoRDELL. In the reserve fund, certainly.
Mr. BURRE. While it is in the reserve vault it is not money at all;
it is not money until we put it out for some purpose.
Mr. MoRDELL. You say you have $63,740,000 in United States
notes?
Mr. BURRE. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is that $63,740,000 worth of United States notes in
excess of the authorized issue?
Mr. BURRE. That is the reserve in our reserve vault, and it will
not be money until it is taken out of that reserve vault and put in
the pay vault. It is to be kept on hand there to be used when it is
necessary. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Please answer my question. I asked you if that was
the amount of greenbacks that you are holding in excess of the
authorized amount of greenbacks out?
Mr. BURRE. I think it is; yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Because they have not been issued.
Mr. PURRE. No ; and will not be until there is a demand for them.
Mr. MoRDELL. They are not issued at all?
Mr. BURRE. No ; they are lying there in reserve in the reserve
vaults.
The CHAIRMAN. It is stock?
Mr. BURRE. Yes; and the same is true of all money, whatever it is.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is not money at all?
Mr. BURRE. That is stock; it is reserve stock.
Mr. MoRDELL. You are sure about that?
Mr. BURRE. Yes; it is reserve stock.
Mr. MoRDELL. It is no part of the greenback circulation of the
|United States?
Mr. BURRE. No: it is not.
Mr. MoRDELL. Well, coming to the gold certificates, you have
$263,030,000 worth of gold certificates from tens to ten, thousands.
Are those gold certificates that have never been paid out for bullion?
Mr. BURKE. They have never been paid out; they are simply re-
serve stock, just the same as the greenbacks. -
Mr. MoR DELL. That is stock? . -
Mr. BURRE. Yes; it is just the same as it was when it came from
the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, never opened, but still in the
packages, and the packages are just the same as when they came there.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 225
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand, although you might have bought
bullion ? - . .
Mr. BURRE. No; those certificates have never been used at all.
Mr. MoRDELL. You have never bought any bullion with that
money? $ - -
Mr. BURRE. No, sir. .
Mr. MONDELL. And that is really so much dead paper?
Mr. BURRE. Yes; until it is used. - 2’
Mr. MoRDELL. This $263,030,000 worth of stamped paper—that is,
º, stamped in denominations that total that sum—has not been
used - -
Mr. BURRE. That is right.
Mr. MoRDELL. And that is true of the silver certificates?
Mr. BURRE. Yes. - -
Mr. MONDELL. Now, how do you come to accumulate
Mr. BURRE (interposing). That amount of money?
Mr. MoRDELL. That amount in a period of one year; that is, from
a total of $228,550,000 in these three classes to a total of $400,102,000.
Mr. BURRE. The reason is because there is so much of a delivery
from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and there has not been
as wide a field for this money in the past year on account of the
immense amount of money put out in different ways—first; by the
additional currency of $384,000,000 put out in circulation—emer-
gency currency, if you will—and then there is $16,000,000 of reserve-
bank notes. That is now out. in circulation; and then we used na-
tional-bank notes this year as they have never been used before.
Mr. MoWDELL. I understand that. Now, let us get back to the
greenbacks. You say there has not been as great a demand for
greenbacks this year as last. Now, the only demand that there could
be for new greenbacks would be when the greenbacks are sent in, or
National Treasury notes are sent in, to be destroyed.
Mr. BURRE. No ; there are often demands in other ways. We re-
deem the national-bank notes º
Mr. MoRDELL. No; I am not talking about national-bank notes; I
am talking about greenbacks—United States notes.
Mr. BURRE. I am answering your question. We pay greenbacks
very frequently in the redemption of national-bank notes, United
States notes.
Mr. MoRDELL. Just a moment. This $63,740,000 of notes that we
are talking about are not national-bank notes but simply pieces of
paper, and under the national-banking act you can not add to the
volume of national-bank notes outstanding, the volume being lim-
ited by law. The only way you can issue one of these new notes is
when you issue one to take the place of an old one.
Mr. BURRE. You are asking me about what demand there is for
greenbacks, and I say that we redeem national-bank notes in green-
backs.
Mr. MoRDELL. But not out of this? -- t
Mr. BURRE. No ; not out of that reserve.
Mr. MoRDELL. It is this reserve, this paper, that we are talking
about; we are not talking about questions of finance but about
the question of printing. I want to get my mind clear on this
printing proposition if I can. The only way you can use any of this
72785—15—15
226 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
$63,740,000 to print United States notes held in reserve is to take
the place of notes sent in and destroyed.
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir. - -
Mr. MONDELL. Well, now, have not notes been worn just as much
in the past year as in years past? ,-
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is there any reduction in the use of the notes and
the wear of the notes by reason of the issuance of other kinds of
currency
Mr. BURRE. There is a reduction in the use of them because the
$384,000,000 that went out has taken their place in circulation.
Mr. MoRDELL. But they are out somewhere; they are being used?
Mr. BURKE. Yes; and they are being used.
Mr. MoRDELL. Are they being hoarded, and therefore not worn
as much 3 Would that account for it?
Mr. BURKE.. I do not know.
Mr. MONDELL. Is it not true that you estimated rather high as to
the demand, and that for the whole year they have been coming in
and you have not checked those you have been getting in 3
Mr. BURRE. I do not think so. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do these United States notes go in as reserves in
the banks?
Mr. BURRE. Yes.
The CIIAIRMAN. Instead of being in circulation?
Mr. RALPH. Almost all of that is reserve.
The CHAIRMAN. Instead of being used in circulation it has been
held as a reserve against this larger emergency currency?
Mr. MALBURN. No; not against it, but against deposits.
Mr. BURRE. A great deal has been used in that way.
The CHAIRMAN. Instead of being circulated they have been held
in banks? -
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. And the circulating medium has been these other
notes?
Mr. BURRE. They are payable in gold, the same as gold certificates,
and they have been held in reserve in that Way.
Mr. MoRDELL. Coming to the mater of gold certificates, you had a
reserve of $148,620,000 last year and $263,030,000 on December 15,
1914. Now, one demand on those certificates is the purchase of gold?
Mr. BURRE. Yes. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. Has there been a reduction in the amount of bullion
purchased, or do you not know?
Mr. BURRE. I do not know as to that; they can tell you at the
mint.
Mr. MoRDELL. Otherwise why should there be a reduction in the
amount that you issue? s
Mr. BURRE. There has been a great demand for gold certificates
to be placed in reserve in these different banks. gº tº
Mr. MoRDELL. And being placed in reserve and not kept in cir-
culation, they do not become soiled, and therefore it is not necessary
to redeem them? º
Mr. BURKE. Well, they have not been in circulation so much, be-
cause they have been held in reserve in the banks; the reserve banks
*
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 227
have a large supply of gold certificates and also a large supply of
United States notes. w
Mr. MoRDELL. To what extent have the new washing machines
reduced the demand for new notes, and how much effect has that
had on this growing Surplus? -
Mr. BURRE. I do not think that the Washing machine has mate-
rially reduced the number. I have not any report with me, but I
could send in a report as to that. * s
Mr. MONDELL. Why do you think they have not reduced the num-
ber required to be destroyed or cancelled ?
Mr. BURRE. They have reduced them to some extent. A washing
machine will wash about 30,000 notes a day.
Mr. MoRDELL. And every day that you wash 30,000 notes instead
of destroying them, you save the cost of manufacturing that num-
ber of notes? .
Mr. BURRE. Yes; that number of notes.
Mr. MONDELL. So that the number of notes that you wash is saved
to that extent; that is, you save in the printing of new notes?
Mr. BURRE. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And by that method you reduce the demand on
these reserve supplies?
Mr. BURKE. Yes, sir.
FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES AND FEDERAL RESERVE CURRENCY.
[See pp. 201, 204, 214, 227.]
Mr. MoRDELL. The national bank notes item is 13,500,000 as
against 14,000,000 for the current year. Now, as I understand you,
Mr. Ralph, any reduction in the demand for national bank notes will
be equalled, you assume, by the demand for Federal reserve notes?
Mr. RALPH. Federal reserve bank notes.
Mr. MoRDELL. Federal reserve currency, I understood you to say?
Mr. RALPH. There are two classes.
Mr. MoRDELL. Why not call one notes and the other currency?
Mr. RALPH. I think that ought to define it.
Mr. MoRDELL. The law says “a Federal reserve note,” and it
speaks of Federal reserve currency. You could cut out the word
“bank’ and call one a note and the other currency. -
Mr. RALPH. I think that would be a good idea. The Federal
reserve currency, I think, will replace any deficit in the national
currency for the remainder of this fiscal year.
Mr. MoRDELL. The Federal reserve currency being the currency
issued under the Federal reserve law that is intended to take the
place of the national bank currency?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. I believe that the Federal Reserve Board
will call upon the Comptroller of the Currency to print, a sub-
stantial stock for issue to the banks. Now, the act Itself would
not be of any great advantage to the banking World unless the
Comptroller of the Currency had a substantial stock on hand to fill
orders when called for.
Mr. MoRDELL. But the demand for that particular class of notes
is not likely to exceed the amount of national bank notes that are
redeemed'
228 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; I am confident it will not exceed that, and
it is very doubtful whether it will equal that. It is problematical
what the future will show. r
Mr. MoRDELL. Then, if it would equal it and the national bank
act was to continue, your estimate is a fair one under the new
system?
Mr. RALPH. It is a good guess. *
Mr. MoRDELL. Of course, there is a possibility of a demand for
more of those notes if some one purchases new bonds, but that is not
likely to be done, I suppose? tº *
Mr. RALPH. No. -
Mr. MoRDELL. How about the issue of the Federal reserve notes?
Have you made any provision for that? -
Mr. RALPH. The banks have paid for those; we were reimbursed
out of funds of the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, and the
banks will, by assessment, reimburse the Treasury for the money
drawn by the bureau. -
Mr. MoRDELL. And any that you print hereafter will be printed in
that reimbursable way? .
Mr. RALPH. Yes. It is a question whether or not the Committee
on Appropriations will find it necessary to specify in the appropria-
tion bill something specific that will permit us to do that in the
future, inasmuch as the Federal reserve act itself only specifies such
moneys as were heretofore appropriated.
Mr. MoRDELL. As a matter of fact, is it not necessary for you to
have specific authorization for the printing of anything you print,
whether it is to be paid for finally out of the appropriation or
whether you are to be reimbursed for it?
Mr. RALPH. Well, that is implied in our acts.
Mr. MoRDELL. You say you have gone on and printed the stamps
without any authorization ?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. But, of course, there is a question whether you
have any authority to do it?
Mr. RALPH. Well, I do not think there is any question about au-
thority. -
Mr. MoRDELL. And unless we give you specific authority to print
these Federal reserve notes the only authority you will have will be
this back-handed authority carried in the Federal reserve law §
Mr. RALPH. Yes; that gives the Secretary of the Treasury au-
thority to do that. *
Mr. MoRDELL. Which is not a very good way to have legislative
authority. -
WAGES OF PLATE PRINTERS.
[See p. 939.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for wages of plate printers. This
item depends entirely upon the other item—the two go together.
Mr. RALPH. Not in the same ratio or relationship. My constant
endeavor is to displace plate printing and
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). The amount in this item has been
changed. What is your revised estimate on this item? - -
Mr. RALPH. In connection with that item I would like to call the
committee's attention to
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Give me the amount.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 229
Mr. RALPH. $1,652,045, which is $149,000
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). That is your revised estimate?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, this depends entirely upon the amount of
work you are going to be authorized to do? s
º RALPH. Yes, sir; that is fixed more accurately than anything
© [Se. -
The CHAIRMAN. Except that you ought to do it more cheaply next
year because you will be printing four-fifths of the backs, or will you
be printing all of the backs?
Mr. RALPH. No; four-fifths of them. That is allowed for in this
estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. That is taken into consideration in your revised
estimate? *
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. I can not understand how it is you take on an ad-
ditional number of those backs any yet spend more money.
Mr. RALPH. It is because we do additional work. . If we estimated
for the same work each year there would be a net saving of $135,000
each year, or approximately that amount.
MONEY - LAUN DRY MACHIN ES.
[See p. 254.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for money-laundry machines.
The appropriation was $9,000, and you are asking for $9,000 in
1916. You expended in 1914 $895.19.
Mr. BURRE. I have no additional statement to make in regard to
those machines than I have already made, but, as I said, I can send
in a statement as to those machines. -
The CHAIRMAN. You send to the committee a statement about them?
Mr. BURRE. Yes; I will send in a report showing what those
machines are doing. - -
Mr. MALBURN. Perhaps the statement I hand you will answer your
question.
The CHAIRMAN. According to this statement there is about $352,000
that we ought to pick up some place. -
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. During the fiscal year they laundered 35,438,713
notes of various denominations. It appears that the cost of printing
new notes and putting them in circulation is $13.125 per thousand,
while the cost of laundering and returning to circulation is approxi-
mately $3.191 per thousand notes, or a saving of $9.934 per thousand.
You have not yet reached the conclusion that the life of these laun-
dered notes is equal to the life of the new notes?
Mr. BURRE. No; we have not reached that conclusion yet.
(The statement referred to follows:)
OPERATIONS OF MONEY TAU NDRY MAC IIINES.
During the fiscal year money laundry machines were in Operation in the Treas-
ury and in the subtreasuries at Boston, Chicago, New York, and Philadelphia.
Based on figures furnished by the Government actuary, the cost of printing
new notes and putting them into circulation is $13.125 per thousand, while the
230 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
cost of laundering and returning to circulation is but approximately $3.191 per
thousand notes, or a saving of $9,934 per thousand. -
During the fiscal year 35,438,712 notes Of Various denominations were laun-
dered and returned to circulation. Under the former practice of the depart-
ment, before the installation of the laundry machines, these notes would have
been destroyed and new Ones issued in their place. The saving to the depart-
ment, therefore, on the above basis, is $352,048.06 if the life of the laundered
notes is figured as equal to that of new notes. This fact the actuary has not
been able definitely to determine, although it is his opinion that there is very
little difference between the life Of the washed and new notes.
(The following statement was also submitted with reference to
laundry machines:) * *
- OCTOBER 27, 1914.
Report of laundry, Office of Treasurer of United States.
Number Of notes returned to circulation : &
Fiscal year ending June 30, 1914—
July, 1913 __ 1, 178,000
August, 1913–––– 652, 000
September, 1913 790, 000
October, 1913 1, 327, 000
November, 1913__ . ___ 1, 176,000
December, 1913 (10 days) 436,000
January, 1914------------ 1, 002, 000
February, 1914-------- ___ 970, 000
March, 1914----------------------------- 1, 112,000
April, 1914–––––––––––– - . 1, 084, 000
May, 1914 -- * 1,023, 000
June, 1914---------------------------------------------- 777, 000
11, 527, 000
July–December, 1914—
July --------------------------------------------------- 1, OSS, 000
August ––– mºs. * 552, 000
September * ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 580, 000
October ------------------------------------------------ 710, 000
November ---------------------------------------------- 664, 000
December ------------------------- - - 648, 000
4, 242, 000
ENGRAVERS’ AND PRINTERS’ MATERIALs, ETC.
[See p. 939.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for engravers’ and printers’ mate-
rials and other materials except distinctive paper. Your appropria-
tion was $470,000 and you are asking for $770,936, including $93,295,
for paper for internal-revenue stamps, proposed to be transferred
from miscellaneous objects, Treasury Department. That is an in-
crease of $206,741. What is that for 2 -
Mr. RALPH. I have prepared an analysis of that and would like
to read it and then discuss it. The appropriation for the fiscal year
ended June 30, 1914, was $424,174, including a deficiency of $33,952,
and the unexpended balance was $2,238.29.
The estimate now is $776,950, which is $6,014 more than shown in
the Book of Estimates. The appropriation for 1915 is $470,000;
the estimate is $289,350 more. The increase is due to the following
items:
Eleven additional new power plate-printing presses, $48,070; pur-
chase of internal-revenue paper by this bureau instead of by the
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 231
Internal-Revenue Bureau, $93,295 in the Book of Estimates; and
$17,600 for the new stamps required under the act of October 22,
1914, equal to a total of $110,895; and an estimated 20 per cent in-
crease in cost of supplies due to the European war, $145,800. With-
out these items, the estimate would be only $2,185 more than the
1915 appropriation, or 0.46 per cent more.
Now, in connection with the war, you remember that shortly after
the war broke out Mr. Malburn and I had a conference with you,
and then I left at midnight for Philadelphia, because I received in-
formation that there was a scarcity of colors and aniline pigments
used by the bureau in its manufacture of ink. I got in Philadel-
phia the next morning and visited all the chemical manufacturers
there and purchased all of the colors that they had in stock at a
price equal to or not to exceed 5 per cent in excess of the contract
price which we had at that time. I immediately went to New York
and bought all available materials there at a very slight increase in
price. I bought all the Prussian blues and Lake reds that were in
America. As a result of that I have been able to print the postage
stamps the same as usual, using those colors that were very scarce.
The materials that I purchased for 29 and 30 cents are now selling for
95 cents and $1 a pound, and I figure that I not only saved the Gov-
ernment the embarrassment of being compelled to discontinue cer-
tain colors, but that I saved it the increased cost. I do not know
what we are going to do next year if this war continues. I have got
about three or four months’ stock on hand of certain colors. I think
that the blacks that we use, the vegetable blacks, can be successfully
manufactured in America. I have a contract with a firm that is
giving us fairly satisfactory results, but on the reds and the Chinese
blues and Prussian blues there is some question. I could have sold
the colors that I bought five days after I purchased them at an in-
creased price of $125,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you get this increase of $6,000? You
know you can not increase the estimates except in the regular way.
Mr. RALPH. The $6,014 is due to the fact that we purchased addi-
tional paper for war-tax stamps, and the other items referred to there
are incident -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). But you estimated for $770,000, and
now you are trying to say you are estimating $776,000. -
Mr. RALPEI. When I made the estimate I did not include the war-
tax stamps. -
The CHAIRMAN. That bill passed afterwards?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. w #
The CHAIRMAN. How much is that?
Mr. RALPH. $6,014.
The CHAIRMAN. You allow in this estimate $145,000 to cover the
increased cost of inks?
Mr. RALPH. Inks, papers, and chemicals that we purchase.
The CHAIRMAN. Well, if this war continues and you can not get
these at all
Mr. RALPH (interposing). Then I will turn the money back into
the Treasury.
The CHAIRMAN. You will have to use something else, will you not ?
232. SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. RALPH. Yes; I am experimenting now in an endeavor to get
substitutes for those colors. The dextrine that we use on our postage
stamps for the purpose of gumming them is made out of the cassava
flower, which is grown in Java by the Dutch Government; that is,
Holland. Some manufacturing chemist who is out of a job during
the War is spending his time down in Florida, and he finds that there
are hundreds of acres of cassava roots growing wild there, and they
are experimenting now to make this dextrine out of them. The
blacks that we imported from Germany I think hereafter can be
manufactured here, and that we will be independent of Germany;
I feel confident that we will manufacture all of our Prussian blues
in the future, but our American manufacturing chemists could not
compete a year or two ago with German manufacturers because they
had the market.
IPAPER FOR INTERNAL-REVENUE STAMPS.
[See pp. 216, 241.]
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for $93,000 for paper for internal-
revenue stamps? -
Mr. RALPH. Yes; I want to use that $93,295.
The CHAIRMAN. The amount was $90,000 in 1915. |
Mr. RALPH. They asked for $90,000 for internal-revenue paper,
and that is what they got. *
The CHAIRMAN. But this year they ask an increase? l
Mr. RALPH. Yes; and the increase in the number of internal-
revenue stamps would justify $93,295. .
The CIIAIRMAN. How do you arrive at that?
Mr. RALPH. The increase in 1916 over 1915 in the quantity of
stamps will be quite large, and I would not be surprised if we had
to pay a quarter of a cent per pound for the paper in 1916; that is,
more than We are now paying.
Mr. MoRDELL. But your papers are all of American manufacture,
are they not?
Mr. RALPII. Yes, sir; but the sulphite, or a large percentage of it,
which is used in the manufacture of that paper is imported, and
this is blue paper and we use Prussian blue to color the paper, and
the Prussian blue is probably worth 75 cents a pound now.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is this transferred from miscellaneous ob-
jects?
Mr. RALPH. I believe we can handle that more economically and
buy it to better advantage; I believe we can order the sizes more
economically than the internal-revenue people, who do not see the
paper or handle it. - ū.
The CHAIRMAN. You have already purchased all the paper you
want for your war-revenue stamps? .
Mr. RALPPI. No, sir; not all of that which we want. I am pur-
chasing that each month.
The CHAIRMAN. You did not buy that all at once?
Mr. RALP11. No. The Commissioner of Internal Revenue is han-
dling that appropriation this year. He had an appropriation of
$30,000, which he expended for the purchase of internal-revenue
paper for the printing of the war-tax stamps, but I do not believe
they will have any unexpended balance there.
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h The CHAIRMAN. You have included your war-revenue stamps in
€re
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. \
The CHAIRMAN. Everything?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
POSTAGE STAMLPS.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you responsible for the provision in the Post
Office appropriation bill to permit this money to be paid to you in
advance?
Mr. RALPH. No, sir; I am responsible for the provision in the
Post Office appropriation bill that if the contract is let to the bureau
it shall not be printed for less than actual cost. When I took charge
of the bureau I found that we were losing $40,000 in post-office stamp
Contracts, and I immediately got busy and put in improved methods.
The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of fact, you made $32,000 last year
On that contract, did you not?
Mr. RALPH. You mean dividends on our contract?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. RALPH. Yes; double that.
The CHAIRMAN. More than that?
Mr. RALPH. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. If you got it in advance you would spend it?
Mr. RALPH. I anticipate using, in 1916, $60,000 from the profits on
the Post Office Department contract, an amount for which I have not
asked an appropriation; but if you eliminate that, you will have to
give me $60,000 more. What I would like to do is to have the appro-
priation for the postage stamps transferred to the Bureau of Engrav-
ing and Printing. I am going to bid on that contract next month,
the contract expiring the 1st of February. -
CONVERSION OF UNITE]) STATES 2 PER CENT BONDS INTO 3’ PER CENT BONDS
w OR NOTES. t
The CHAIRMAN. Under date of December 18, 1914, we have a letter
from the Secretary of the Treasury asking for a permanent indefinite
appropriation of not to exceed one-tenth of 1 per cent of the amount
of conversions of notes and bonds under the Federal reserve act the
first year, and one twenty-fifth of 1 per cent thereafter during the
time that these conversions are authorized.
Mr. MALBURN. The Federal reserve act provides that Federal
reserve banks may take over from national banks 2 per cent bonds
with circulation privilege to the extent of $25,000,000 a year, and
may issue on the security of those bonds 50 per cent of their value
in 1-year 3 per cent notes and in 30-year 3 per cent bonds. Those
bonds can be sold by the national banks beginning two years from
the date of the Federal reserve act and continuing 20 years there-
after. That would be December 23, 1915. This is to provide an
appropriation which is not made in the Federal reserve act for the
engraving of those notes and bonds.
The CHAIRMAN. That will give you the first year $25,000?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And after that $10,000 a year?
234 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir. That is for two issues—one of bonds and
one of notes. ^-
The CHAIRMAN. That would be, all told, $215,000?
Mr. MALBURN. For an issue of $500,000,000 of bonds and notes.
Mr. RALPH. Those notes will be more expensive than money, inas-
much as they will have coupons attached.
The CHAIRMAN. It is not a circulating note?
Mr. MALBURN. No, sir. There will be probably four issues a year,
because the act provides that four times these bonds may be taken
over by the Federal reserve banks.
The CHAIRMAN. The first year, what would you propose, to make
the dies and plates?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And once you have them?
Mr. RALPH. We will have to change the dates in the coupons and
the notes.
The CHAIRMAN. And after that it would be
Mr. RALPH (interposing). The cost of printing and paper and
material.
The CHAIRMAN. Would it take $25,000 to start?
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. We will use more than half of that amount
for the dies and plates.
The CHAIRMAN. This is, to prepare the dies and plates and to do
any work that is necessary?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BROUGHTON. And to do any work necessary in connection with
the first year's issues. It will cost a great deal more the first year;
after that the cost will be inconsiderable.
* TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
OFFICE OF ASSISTANT SECRETARY,
Washington, December 29, 1914.
IDEAR MR. FITZGERALD : Complying with the request you made at the hearings
this afternoon. With reference to the Secretary’s letter of the 18th instant re-
questing an appropriation for the expenses of converting United States 2 per
cent bonds into United States 3 per cent notes or bonds, as authorized by Sec-
tion 18 of the Federal reserve act, I have the honor to suggest the following as
appropriate to be enacted for a Specific appropriation covering the initial ex-
penses and the first year’s conversions:
Ea:penses refunding United States bonds under section 18 of Federal reserve act.
To enable the Secretary of the Treasury to prepare for the refunding pro-
vided by section 18 of the Federal reserve act of 2 per cent bonds of the
Lnited States into 1-year 3 per cent Treasury notes or 30-year 3 per cent United
States bonds, and to make such conversions as may be authorized during the
fiscal year 1916, $25,000.
Very sincerely,
WM. P. MALBURN,
ASSistant Secretary.
F[on. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives.
DISTINCTIVE PAPER.
[See pp. 240, 939.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is on page 67: “Distinctive paper
for United States securities,” and the appropriation is $400,000, and
you are asking for $526,072.50. This is a combination of the appro-
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 285.
priation of $400,000 for United States securities and $70,000 for
national bank cuprency, is it?
Mr. BROUGHTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you revised this estimate?
Mr. BROUGHTON. We are ready to revise it.
The CHAIRMAN. How much? -
Mr. BROUGHTON. We purpose to reduce the total amount of paper
by 10,000,000 sheets, which would make the total asked for $480,-
247.50. That is reducing it 10,000,000 sheets. ſ
The CHAIRMAN. You estimated on 94,500,000 sheets and you should
reduce it to 80,000,000 sheets?
Mr. BROUGHTON. The Treasurer estimated for 90,000,000 sheets
originally this year. It is cut to 80,000,000 sheets.
The CHAIRMAN. You have 94,500,000?
Mr. BROUGHTON. We are asking you to reduce it 10,000,000 sheets.
Mr. RALPH. There is an allowance for mutilation and defective
sheets, which they always make.
Mr. BROUGHTON. An allowance of 5 per cent. The estimate for
national bank currency we should like to have amended by putting
in the words “and Federal reserve bank currency’ after the words
“national bank currency.”
The estimate for paper is in the amount submitted by the comp-
troller and approved by the Secretary.
The CHAIRMAN. There is going to be no increase in the cost of the
paper, your estimates on both are for less than the current year, and
so your estimate in money instead of being over $10,000 more should
be less. The total appropriation was $470,000 last year. You are
estimating on the same number of sheets for United States securities
and less probably for national bank notes, and yet the money you
ask is in excess?
Mr. BROUGHTON. We are estimating on an increase of bank notes.
I was asked to submit the estimate for 15,000,000 sheets for the use
of the comptroller next year.
The CHAIRMAN. That has been reduced ? i.
Mr. BROUGHTON. I had no knowledge of that until this hearing
to-day.
The CHAIRMAN. That will revise this still further?
Mr. BROUGHTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you that figure? .
Mr. BROUGHTON. No, sir; but I will give it to you.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
OFFICE OF ASSISTANT SECRETARY,
s Washington, December 29, 1914.
DEAR MR. FITZGERALD : Complying with the request you made at the hearings
this afternoon, I have the honor of submitting the following revised figures for
ostimates of appropriations for “Distinctive Paper for United States Securities
and National Bank and Federal Reserve Bank CurrenCy ’’:
(1) On the basis of the purchase of 84,000,000 sheets in order to Supply the
Treasurer with S0,000,000 sheets perfect, and the purchase of 14,700,000 sheets
in order to supply the Comptroller of the Currency with 14,000,000 sheets per-
fect, the amount to be appropriated for paper will be $458,955, to which is to be
added the usual items for services at the mill, amounting to $13,410, SO that the
total amount to be appropriated will be $472,365.
(2) On the basis of the purchase of 84,000,000 sheets in order to supply the
Treasurer with 80,000,000 sheets perfect, and the purchase of 13,650,000 sheets
in order to supply the Comptroller of the Currency with 13,000,000 sheets per-
236 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. ,
fect, the amount to be appropriated for paper will be $454,072.50. to which is to
be added the usual items for services at the mill, amounting to $13,410, so that
the total amount to be appropriated will be $467,482.50. ”
Very sincerely,
WM. P. MALBURN,
ASSistant Secretary.
Hon. JoHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman, Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice that you strike out the word “laundry "
and insert the word “mill'? -
Mr. BROUGHTON. Yes, sir; it is the same paper, the same mill, and
the law directs that the Secretary shall contract for all the paper
and shall use the same paper. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to modify the language so that it will
read instead of actual expenses, $50 per month when actually on
duty. Why is that? -
Mr. BROUGHTON. The superintendent of the mill is an employee of
the Treasury Department detailed there.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the man who lives there?
Mr. BROUGHTON. The employee has his family there, and this is
simply to give him his expenses.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this the same request that has been made on
numerous occasions?
Mr. BROUGHTON. Yes, sir. There is no other change at all, except
the combining of the two items.
ESTIMATES REVISIED.
[See p. 939.]
Mr. Chairman, I suggest that in the event that the committee
should decide to make any reductions in the estimates that I be given
an opportunity to apportion the reduction over those three items.
The CHAIRMAN. If we do anything we will have the items bal-
anced. I think that if we can arrange some system by which we set
out specifically the number of sheets of these different things we will
avoid a lot of confusion.
Mr. RALPH. I will give you a complete statement of the full num-
ber of sheets that I expect to print next year under those estimates
in the various classes of work.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
BUREAU of ENGRAVING AND PRINTING,
* January 2, 1915.
, Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD, g
Chairma), Committee on Appropriations, JHouse of Representatives.
SIR : In compliance with your request expressed at the recent hearing before
your committee ort the estimates of this bureau for the fiscal year 1916, I desire
to state that the estimated deliveries in sheets in the fiscal year 1915, with the
appropriations for that year, and in the fiscal year 1916, with the revised esti-
mates for the fiscal year 1916, are as follows:

1915 1916
United States notes and certificates. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74,000,000 || 80,000,000
National-bank notes and Federal reserve bank currency. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14,000,000 13,500,000
Internal-revenue stamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86,765,459 | 89,949,623
Emergency revenue stamps, “War tax”. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000,000
Customs stamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 189,000 239,000
Checks, drafts, and miscellaneous (nonreimbursable). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,366,795 1,600,570
Total.--------------------------------------------------------------------. 176,321,254 | 193,289, 193
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 237
The amounts appropriated for 1915 to execute the various quantities of
WOrk as above Stated, and the revised estimates for 1916 to execute the Work
as above Stated, are as follows:

1915 1916
Compensation of employees.----------------------------------------------------- $1,300,000 || $1,447,505
Plate printing------------------------------------------------------------------- 1,625,000 1,652,045
Materials and miscellaneous expenses-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 470,000 776,950
3,395,000 3,876, 500
The increase in sheets to be delivered in 1916 over 1915 is 9.6 per cent.
The estimates for Compensation show an increase of 11.3 per cent. They in-
clude $8,400 for “Custody of dies, rolls, and plates,” which has been omitted
from the estimates of the Chief of the Division of Loans and Currency. The
percentage of increase in the estimates under this item is greater than in the
number of sheets to be printed and delivered, for the reason that the added
emergency revenue (war tax) stamps are printed on offset presses, which cost,
together with the cost of gumming and perforating them, is payable from this
appropriation, instead of being plate printed and the cost thereof paid from the
appropriation for “Wages of plate printers and their assistants.”
The estimates for “Plate printing ” are $27,045, or 1.6 per cent more than the
appropriation for 1915. The increase in sheets Of all kinds Over 1915 is 9.6 per
cent, and in plate-printed sheets only the increase is 5.2 per cent. The extension
of the use of the power press accounts for the lower cost in 1916. -
The estimate for “Materials and miscellaneous expenses '' was $776,950, an
increase of $306,950 over the appropriation for 1915, equal to 65.3 per cent. The
increase is largely due to the following items: s
11 additional new power plate-printing presses $48,070
The purchase of internal-revenue paper by this bureau instead of by the
Bureau of Internal Revenue, as shown in the BOOk Of EstimateS_____ 93, 295
The purchase of paper for the emergency revenue (war tax) stamps re-
quired under the act of Oct. 22, 1914 17, 600
An estimate of 20 per cent increase in cost Of Supplies, due to the Euro-
pean War __ 145, 800
304, 765
Without these items, the estimates will be only $2,185 more than the 1915
appropriation, or 0.46 per cent. .
At the present time this bureau is printing and delivering emergency-revenue
(war-tax) stamps authorized by the act of October 22, 1914, after the estimates
for the fiscal year 1916 were prepared and submitted, and when it developed
that this work would have to be executed it seemed that, due to the large issue
of emergency currency and Federal reserve bank notes, the Comptroller of the
Currency would require about 4,000,000 sheets less of national-bank notes than
were anticipated for the current fiscal year, and it was expected that the money
that would have been used for these 4,000,000 sheets could be used for the print-
ing of the emergency revenue stamps during the remainder of this fiscal year.
Recently, however, the comptroller has advised me that he will probably require
a supply of Federal reserve bank currency, and in that even the funds remaining
from the appropriation for national-bank notes will have to be used to produce
Federal reserve bank currency, and there will be no funds to cover the cost of
emergency-revenue stamps, and I will be compelled to Submit a deficiency esti-
\mate to COVer their cost.
In the act authorizing the issue of these emergency-revenue Stamps Congress
included an item of $30,000 for the purchase of paper, but omitted entirely any
appropriation for the printing of the stamps, and as the act authorizing them
was passed after the estimates for 1916 were submitted, I have provided for
them for the next fiscal year in the revised estimate which I presented to your
committee on the 29th instant, reducing the number of Sheets for the United
States Treasurer from 90,000,000, as stated in the Pook of Estimates, to
S0,000,000.
238 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Since the hearing was held I have been informed by the Bureau of Internal
Itevenue that under the act Of December 17, 1914, this bureau will be called
upon to print and deliver a large number of Opium special tax stamps and
opium orders. This act provides funds for the purpose of carrying into effect
its provisions in the current year, but a supplemental estimate will, when full
data is available, be presented in the regular way for the printing of the
stamps and orders that will be required in the fiscal year 1916.
I am advised informally by the Bureau of Internal Revenue that there will
probably be required under this act annually 500,000 stamps and 25,000,000
Original and 25,000,000 duplicate Order forms, and based upon this estimate it
would appear that their cost would be somewhere around $250,000 yearly. I
expect to go into this matter very carefully with the Commissioner of Internal
IRevenue, with a view to reducing the size of the stamps and orders to the low-
est possible minimum, and hope that the estimate may be much less than this
tentative figure.
Attention is called to the fact that while the cost of producing these forms is
placed on this bureau, the Commissioner of Internal Revenue is authorized to
charge not to exceed $1 per hundred, so that the income derived from the sale
of the forms will probably more than offset the cost of production.
I am attaching hereto a sheet taken out of the annual report of this bureau
for the fiscal year 1914 which shows the annual deliveries from 1878 to 1914
of the various classes Of Securities and the expenditures by this bureau, and
upon which has been inscribed the estimate of deliveries for the fiscal years
1915 and 1916. The figures under the heading “National bank notes '' for
1915 include 11,344,429 sheets of emergency national bank notes and 6,587,500
sheets of Federal reserve notes, and those under “ Internal-revenue stamps º'
include 7,000,000 and 8,000,000 sheets for emergency-revenue (War tax) stamps
for 1915 and 1916, respectively :
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
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240 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
An analysis Of this statement will probably give you the information you
desired as to deliveries and expenditures. It shows a gradual reduction in the
aVerage expenditure per thousand sheets delivered. - -
Respectfully,
J. E. RALPH, Director.
The CHAIRMAN. Give it to us on the basis of the estimates and on
the basis of the current appropriations.
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Both ways.
Mr. RALPH. Yes, sir. -
Mr. BROUGHTON. I have a memorandum which was prepared for
Mr. Malburn regarding the estimate for distinctive paper.
The CHAIRMAN. Insert it in the record.
(The memorandum referred to by Mr. Broughton follows:)
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
DIVISION OF I.OANS AND CURRENCY,
OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY,
Washington, December 9, 1914.
(Memorandum for Mr. Malburn regarding estimates for distinctive paper.)
Heretofore separate estimates have been submitted for distinctive paper
for “United States securities” and for “national-bank currency,” including
Salaries of the employees at the mill for 10 months under the former and two
months under the latter appropriation. As the operating expenses of the mill
are COInStant and the positions are statutory, the current estimates were sub-
Imitted combining the two appropriations so that the overhead charges for the
Operation of the mill would be made one item as well as the appropriation for
Daper, a restriction, however, appearing in the amount of paper that may be
purchased for the Treasurer and the amount that may be purchased for the
COmptroller. If Congress accepts the department’s view in this respect it will
greatly simplify the accounting at the mill and in various Treasury offices.
In Submitting his estimates to this office, the Comptroller of the Currency
estimated for 15,750,000 sheets of distinctive paper for national-bank notes,
Federal reserve bank notes, ānd Federal reserve notes. At that time it was
believed the Federal reserve banks would reimburse the department in full
for all expenses incident to the preparation and issue of both Federal reserve
bank notes and Federal reserve notes, and, accordingly, in making up the esti-
mates for Congress the items for these notes were omitted. The Comptroller of
the Treasury has sincé decided that the Government must stand the expense of
Dreparing and issuing Federal reserve bank notes in the same manner as it
Stands the expense of preparing and issuing national-bank notes. Accordingly,
the estimate should be amended by inserting after “national-bank currency *
the words “and Federal reserve bank currency.” so that the item will read:
“Distinctice paper for United States Securities 94,500,000 sheets, and for
natoſual-bank currency and Federal reserve bank currency 15,750,000 sheets,
etc.” (See p. 699 of Estimates of Appropriations for 1916.)
The estimate for next year were based on the contract price of paper for the
current year : that is, $0.36% per pound, plus $0.02% per pound for miscellaneous
expenses, including transportation. This makes the estimated cost of a million
sheets $4,650. However, if the estimates for distinctive paper for United States
securities are reduced 10,000,000 sheets, the proper reduction should be at the
rate of $4,582.50 per million sheets, which is the cost of the paper plus express-
age, as the general miscellaneous expenses in connection with the production
of paper will not necessarily be reduced through a reduction of 10,000,000 sheets
in the amount of paper manufactured. Accordingly, the proper reduction for
10,000,000 sheets is $45,825. which would make the amount estimated for paper,
including transportation and miscellaneous expenses, $466,837.50, and the total
estimated appropriation will be $480,247.50, including salaries, etc., at the mill.
W. S. BROUGHTON.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 24?
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 1914.
INTERNAL REVENUE.
STATEMENTS OF MR. WILLIAM H. OSBORN, COMMISSIONER OF
INTERNAL REVENUE; MR. E. A. FORBES, CHIEF DIVISION OF
ACCOUNTS AND STATISTICS; AND MR. J. W. McGINNIS, CHIEF
REVENUE AGENT. -
PAPER FOR INTERN AL-REVEN UE STA MIPS.
[See pp. 216, 232.]
The CHAIRMAN. The item for paper for internal-revenue stamps
has been transferred to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing?
Mr. Forbes. Yes, sir. i
The CHAIRMAN. Do you believe that is a better arrangement, to
let the bureau purchase the paper? - - -
Mr. Forbes. Personally, I heard nothing about it until after it
was done. -
Mr. OSBORN. That was done in the Secretary’s office. I do not
know about it myself. They just sent an order over to have it dones
REFUNDS OF COLLECTIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “To enable the Secretary of
the Treasury to refund money covered into the Treasury as internals
revenue collections, under the provisions of the act approved May
27, 1908,” and the appropriation is $50,000 and your estimate is
$50,000. This is the refund of deposits put up as compromises?
Mr. ForbBs. Rejected offers in compromise and overpayments,
overplus of distraint sales, net proceeds of seizure sales when proper
to be returned to the owners, and offers for real estate not accepted,
The CHAIRMAN. It is always an uncertain amount?
Mr. ForbBs. It is uncertain; yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you expended $16,132.71%
Mr. Forbes. Yes, sir. During the first five months this year we
have expended about $40,000 and we will have to ask for a deficiency
appropriation, but we can not tell how much ; it will be anywhere
from $30,000 to $75,000 this year.
The CHAIRMAN. What are they, mostly.
Mr. For BES. Rejected offers in compromise or overpayments,
The commissioner will tell you about that. i
Mr. OSBoRN. We started at $50 for a corporation, and $20 for an
individual. . . :
The CHAIRMAN. That is the income tax?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir; we reduced it to $20 and $5. All those who
paid will be entitled to a refund of the difference, except where the
offers in compromise have been accepted. -
The CHAIRMAN. These are merely technical violations?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir. * -
The CHAIRMAN. Failures to make returns?
Mr. Osborn. Yes, sir; returns on time.
72785—15—16
242 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. MoRDELL. Carelessness and neglect?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir. - .
Mr. ForbBS. We do not know how many of those people and cor-
porations will make application. They will not be repaid unless
they make application.
he CHAIRMAN. Is there any limit upon the period within which
they must file their application?
Mr. FORBEs. Under section 3228 they must make application within
two years.
PUNISIIMENT FOR VIOLATION OF INTERNAL-REVENUE LAWS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Punishment for violation of
internal-revenue laws,” and the appropriation is $175,000, and your .
estimate is $175,000?
Mr. OSBORN. That is another fund that it is impossible almost for
us to tell until the end of the year how much we have to pay out.
Another thing, there is a fine of $100, expulsion from office, and, I
think, imprisonment for not less than one month if we overspend
the fund. We do not spend as much of the appropriation in the
early part of the year as in the latter part, because we are afraid to
do it. To give you some idea what those people are doing, We seized
and destroyed 2,677 illicit distilleries and 1,593 stills in 1914. In
North Carolina alone there were 535 illicit distilleries and 312 stills.
It is not only that work, but by using a good many of these men on
the oleomargarine business we have uncovered $16,000,000 of frauds,
and we got from one concern about $227,000, and I should say easily
over $300,000 has been collected in cash in the last 10 months. That
is a fund, Mr. Chairman, that we really need as much as any other
fund we have. It is the most important one to us. It is a temporary
fund. We can not employ a man more than six months at one time,
unless by special agreement with the Civil Service Commission. We
find, for instance, a lot of illicit distilleries in the Western part of
|North Carolina, and we find a couple of men who can show our men
where they are. We employ those men for 60 days or 90 days, and
when we get through we let them go. We are not using nearly as
many as we ought to to prevent the frauds on the Government.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this business of illicit distilling on the increase
or decrease?
Mr. OSBors. There were 2,600 last year as against 2,400 the year
before.
The CHAIRMAN. That is not exactly an indication that it is increas-
ing; that is an indication that you got more stills. There is no way
$o tell whether it is extending or not?
Mr. Osborºs. There is no question but that illicit distilling is in-
greasing wherever there is prohibition. I do not mean to say that
prohibition is not a good thing, but what I mean to say is that when-
ever you stop the sale of liquor in a State, then they commence illicit
distilling.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it your experience that the bulk of these stills
are in States where the sale of liquor is prohibited?
Mr. OSBORN. North Carolina is a dry State; South Carolina is a
sort of semidry State; Tennessee, I believe, is now dry; Virginia is
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL; 1916. 243
not now dry; and West Virginia is now dry. Those are the States
where we find most of the illicit distilleries.
Mr. MoRDELL. Does North Carolina have a prohibition law Ż
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir. º
Mr. MoRDELL. That is where the largest number of illicit stills are
located?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir.
Mr. McGINNIS. Last year, up to June 30, 1914, we caught 535
illicit distilleries in North Carolina and 312 illicit stills.
Mr. MoRDELL. You mean outside of the distilleries?
Mr. McGINNIs. Some of the 312 stills were caught in the 535
illicit distilleries. We may catch a distillery without a still; they
may drag the still out and run it away.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement as to these
operations. .
Mr. McGINNIs. Yes, sir.
(The statement referred to follows:)
244
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.

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New Mexico.-------------|----|--|--|------ 543.921----|------|--------|-- * * : * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * *g, *g, * * * : * * * $598. 31|| $1,442, 19|- - - - - - - - - -[-...------- $5.30 $5.30
New York. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - aſ a sº e i = < * * 1| 2,654. 18 218 15,516] 1 9, 110 10,965 1l------|------ 13| 6,744.81| 659,761.66 $3,424.08|- - - - - - - - - - 35.57| 3,459.65
North Carolina. . . . . . . . . . . * * * 535 286 ----|--|--|--|--------|- * & tº 3- tº ſº * * - sº : * * * * * * * * 312|- - - - - - 260 75|| 838. 30) 28,435.23 9,322.16|| $6,038.38. 10.25 15,370.79
North Dakota... . . . . . . . . . . sº e s = { * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I s & sm ºr s = e º e s r. s = e = s. s. as º I s * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * sº º s : * * * * * * s sº º sº e º s = e º º ºs s s as s gº e º me 2,252.61 82.27----------|-------- 82.27
Ohio--------------------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 2,654.21|----|------|--------|--- 618--------|------|------ 42|. 3,342.07| 71,822.29 3,214.06. . . . . . . . . . 16.96 3,231.02
Oklahoma---------------|--------|------|--------------|------|-------- * * * * r * * * * * * * * * * * * s = * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * as * * * * * i = s. * = | * * * * * * * * * * 9,657.74----------|----------|--------|----------
Oregon------------------- * * * * : * * * * : * * * * * * 253. 391----|--|--|--|-------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * = &º e º 'º º º * * 278. 73| 42,988. 28, 1,148.65]. . . . . . . . . . 29.14, 1,177.79
Pennsylvania. . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * : * 17 ----|-------------- 5,318|--------|------|------ 1| 7| 1,052.67| 477,290. 71| 2,448. 21]... . . . . . . . 56.13| 2,504. 34
Rhode Island. . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * : * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * | * * * * : * * * s sº ºr e = | * * * * * * * * I am * * * * * : * * * * * * | * * * * * * : * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * 10,578.49 231. 971. - - - - - - - - - 8. 55 240. 52
South Carolina. . . . . . . . . . . * * * 1 º' tº 253 59 ----|------|--------|--|--|--------|-------- 1661. . . . . . 110 20 52.25 9,721.89| 3,064.68 2,268.30 5.00, 5,337.98
South Dakota. . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * r * * * * sº sº º sº ºn s = e < * : * = * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * | * * * * * * * * * s 946. 29 221.39]. . . . . . . . . . 3. 80 225. 19
Tennessee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . sº º ºs º i º 249 258. 761. ---|--|--|--|-------- * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 129|... --- 1,329| 105 594.05 21,348.40 3,899.37; 5,358.91 34.96, 9,293. 24
Texas-------------------- * * | * * * * | * * * * * * 259.90|- . . . . . . . . . 1,760|- - - - 160--------------|------ 14|... - 1,025.00 39,320.71|....... . . . 9.00 6. 20 15. 20
Utah--------------------- as º as tº sº a m = ± º ºr sº e º sº 3,032. 27|--|--|--|--|--|-------- * * * * * * * * * * *i - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4}....] 3,619.49 131,441.78 570. 15l. . . . . . . . . . 15. 15 585.30
Vermont. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * : * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * I as an e º sº sº I sº º sº s = < * * * * * * e i s is as sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * I as sº as as as sº I as tº as * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * * * * * * * 142.83|----------|----------|--------|----------
Virginia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3|.. 324|13,470. 60|....|......|. . . . . . . . 1| 3,372|- - - - - - - - 1821. . . . . . 245 76] 17,222.26 16,559. 17| 9,918.29| 4,869.75 63.46 14,851.50
Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . * = s. as s = m m i s m as m as sº s = * * * * * * * * I am as sº sº I e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = i < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 30,953.63 763. 65l. . . . . . . . . . 29.96 793. 61
West Virginia. . . . . . . . . . . . * - sº e i = * * * 3 123.36|--|--|--------------|--|--|--------|-------- 3|------ 3|.. -- 141.00 12,870. 64 783. 50 36.00 4. 69 824. 19
Wisconsin. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - I - - - - I - - - - - - 3,718.90ſ. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6, 1,754 ll------ 3| 1| 9,822.66 40,765.36 182.94]... - - - - - - - 20.50 203. 44
Wyoming. . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - º, e s is sº e º sº i e s = * * * $40,771. ---|------|------------|-------- 1,636,------|------|------ ...| 1,461. 15 3,869.44 203.90|- - - - - - - - - - 3. 70 207. 60
District of Columbia . . . . . * = s. sº I m ms º sº I as s = e º sº ... s. s = e = * * * * * I am as º ºs I s s m sº º sº I s m as sº as s = e 3,444. . . . . . . . |- - - - - - 1 1| 1 463. 10 4,377, 53 136.02 . . . . . . . . . . 34. 16 170. 18
Hawaii. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * : * * * * : * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * I e s = * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * : * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * sº e º º sº as º is sº º
Alaska------------------- s' s m am I am mº m sº s = m = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * i = m, ºr m sº as ºn a as º ºs º ºs e = * * * * * * * s as s as sº s = | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1,287.17|----------|----------|--------|----------
Total.------------- 8, 1| 2,677 42,080.25 6, 560 266,811| 10 129,455 46, sº 1,593] 1 61| 3,384. 504|195,172.283,415,457.88 65,045.91, 37,731.71|1,095.60103,873. 22

1 The actual quantity was 60 pounds and 83 ounces.
246 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Illicit distilleries seized, casualties to Officers and employees, and persons
arrested during the last Seven years.

I908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 || Total
Illicit distilleries seized... . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 130 | 1,743 | 1,911 || 2,471 2,466 2,375 2,677 14,773
Officers and employees killed... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l ! --------|--------|--------|-------- 2
Officers and employees wounded. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 1 2 1 1 9
Persons arrested. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 328 470 470 529 494 459 504 3,254
1 Posseman C. E. McRight wounded in raid on distillery near Allsboro, Ala., Jam. 5, 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. You pay out of this appropriation for the services
of the men you employ?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir; the informers and what we call the Form 10
IſleIl.
The CHAIRMAN. The informers get the rewards?
Mr. OSBORN. They are the men who inform us where the distil-
leries are. There is a considerable amount of money that has to be
paid to those men. For instance, wherever it is a 50-gallon still or
more we have to pay $50 upon conviction. We never know how much
is going to turn up. In North Carolina, where there were 535 illicit
distilleries, we may have to pay $40 additional to the $10 fee, making
$50 in each case of minimum still capacity. We paid the day before
yesterday $240.
The CHAIRMAN. It depends on the conviction?
Mr. For BEs. Of the owner or operator and the capacity of the still.
The CHAIRMAN. Does he get paid if there is not a conviction?
Mr. ForbB.S. $10 is the maximum fee if there is no conviction.
Mr. OSBORN. He may be paid all the way from $5 to $50.
Mr. Forbes. The more prominent cases are exploited.
Mr. OSBORN. Another thing; I came here in April, and for the
year ended June 30 following we collected more than $344,000,000.
The next year we collected $380,000,000, and this year we expect to
collect $439,000,000. You see how it is increasing all the time. The
work is increasing, and we have complaints from all over the country
and from the revenue agents that they can not collect the taxes be-
cause they have not the men to do it. I am getting letters from the
collectors saying that they are compelled to take their field men and
put them in the office.
The CHAIRMAN. That includes all sources?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir. These Form 10 men are a great help to the
revenue agents.
The CHAIRMAN. Are the returns from the taxes on spirits in-
creasing?
Mr. OSBORN. No, sir; decreasing.
Mr. Forbes. It is a little ahead for the year up to October 31,
because the distillers anticipated an increased tax. It is falling off
now. It fell off more than $5,000,000 in the month of October.
The report of collections for November has not been compiled.
The CHAIRMAN. They took a lot of spirits out of bond?
Mr. ForbBs. Yes, sir.
Mr. OSBORN. The tax on distilled spirits fell off last year $4,500,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How much will be collected this year?
Mr. ForbBs. The estimate is $439,000,000, of which amount $305,-
000,000 is ordinary, as against $308,000,000 last year.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 247,
The CHAIRMAN. This includes what?
Mr. FORBES. The ordinary receipts are exclusive of the emergency
revenue tax and the income tax. g
The CHAIRMAN. Spirits and oleomargarine? -
Mr. FORBES. Yes, sir. On account of the emergency revenue tax
it is estimated that $54,000,000 will be collected this year, a little more
than half a year. The income tax, $80,000,000, of which the corpora-
tions will pay $40,000,000 and individuals $40,000,000. -
Mr. MONDELL. Is any part of this appropriation paid for the Salae
ries of permanent employees?
Mr. OSBORN. No, sir. On account of the presidential order they
can only be employed for six months, except, for instance, if we
have a man who has been useful in the seizure of a lot of oleo all
over the country and who is a special employee we get the Civil
Service Commission to agree to extend his time two months, bes
cause we have to use him as a witness; never beyond that.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you find men who are specially valuable to you
in connection with this appropriation whom you can employ from
time to time for a limited time?
Mr. OSBORN. Yes, sir.
Mr. McGINNIs. We employed a man in the city of New York who
gave us some inforamtion with reference to oils that were being
furnished to some oleomargarine factories at Providence, R. I., anā
through his information we traced out this concern at Columbus,
Ohio. We employed that man at $9 a day and as a result of his
work for less than 40 days we collected $262,000 from that one con-
cern in Columbus. ' s:
Mr. OSBORN. We did not get all the information from him.
Mr. McGINNIs. No ; but we secured from him the information that
led to the discovery of the oils going to Providence, R.I., and Colum-
bus, Ohio.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do these special employees work under the col-
lector' *
Mr. OSBORN. No, sir; under the revenue agents. A gentleman
came to me some time ago and said that he had a hotel in a certain
part of the country that was being completely destroyed by blockade
distilleries, men coming in drunk, etc. I authorized the employment
of two men to go and stay at the hotel just as guests, and they went
fishing down the stream. There were six or seven of these illicit
distilleries. They located the distilleries and gave me the informat
tion, and I sent my men in there and got every one of them.
Mr. MoRDELL. Sometimes these men are employed through the
office here under your direction, and sometimes they are employed
under the direction of the men in the field?
Mr. Osbors. They are always employed under the direction of
the revenue agents.
Mr. MoRDELL. And the revenue agents know what they are doing?
Mr. Osbor N. Exactly what they are doing.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you made an estimate as to how much will
be received from the war revenue act?
Mr. Forbes. $54,000,000 for the balance of this fiscal year, and
$44,000,000 for the first six months of the next year, when the law
expires by limitation.
The CHAIRMAN. About $98,000,000?
248 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. ForbBS. Yes, sir; approximately. -
The CHAIRMAN. Your office has done a great deal of estimating; do
your estimates prove pretty accurate? -
Mr. Forbes. We have been under for a number of years. Last
ear we overestimated. We were governed by facts and the esti-
mates are based thereon, but the ordinary receipts were not normal.
They have fallen off; instead of $312,000,000 estimated for 1914 we
secured from ordinary sources $308,000,000. There was thus a falling
off of $4,000,000 instead of an increase as estimated.
Mr. OSBORN. That was in distilled spirits, mostly.
The CHAIRMAN. That is a little over 1 per cent?
Mr. Forbes. Yes, sir; about 1% per cent.
The CHAIRMAN. You expect to spend the $175,000, as near as you
ean figure?
Mr. OSBORN. We ought to spend more than that. We have not
spent much of it thus far because we have been holding back to see
how much we would have to pay out for these stills. January,
February, and March are good months for the illicit distilleries to
run on account of the cold Weather; they can make the whisky better.
The CHAIRMAN. There is greater activity at that time? r
Mr. Osborn. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And greater difficulty in discovering them at that
time of the year? --
Mr. OSBORN. In the Winter?
Mr. MonpELL. Yes, sir. -
Mr. OSBORN. That is a better time to discover them because the
leaves are off the trees. tº ' - - .
Mr. McGINNIs. It is harder to get to them.
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER, 30, 1914.
CONTINGENT EXPENSES, INDEPENDENT TREASURY.
STATEMENTS OF MR. WILLIAM P. MALBURN, ASSISTANT SECRE-
TARY OF THE TREASURY; MR. W. N. THOMPSON, CONFIDEN-
TIAL CLERK; AND MR. E. B. DASKAM, CHIEF OF THE DIVISION
OF PUBLIC MONEYS.
The CHAIRMAN. Contingent expenses, Independent Treasury, the
appropriation is $185,000 and you are asking for $185,000. These
are the funds out of which you are paying the expenses largely of
transferring coin, gold, notes, etc., from one part of the country to
another.
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir; you will find that itemized on page 64.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you expended a very large amount, due
to what?
Mr. DASKAMI. Due to the transfer of money to the different Sub-
treasury offices.
The CHAIRMAN. Will the establishment of the Federal Reserve
Board affect this appropriation?
Mr. MALBURN. I do not think for 1916 it will make very much
difference one way or the other. Probably after that it will, and it
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 249
may possibly in 1916. It is too early to tell. The banks have just
opened, and they are not holding any money themselves. I think
there are only one or two banks that have any vaults, and we are
carrying the actual money in the vaults of the different Subtreasuries
In OW. -
The CHAIRMAN. So that as far as can be seen now that can not
affect the existing situation?
Mr. MALBURN. No, sir; it will not affect the estimates.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to include in this item authority for in-
Surance on shipments of money by registered mail when necessary?
Mr. MALBURN. And in that connection I would like to call your
attention to a decision of the Comptroller of the Treasury, in which
he holds that as insurance is a part of the contract of an express
company, and is included in its charges, insurance may be considered
as part of the transportation charge. If we can carry this money
by mail, or a great part of it, we can make quite a considerable sav-
ing, and we are working on that now, but it will take some time to
get that perfected. We make large shipments now by mail to a
considerable extent. The comptroller's decision is as follows:
INSURANCE ON sHIPMENTs OF GOVERNMENT MONEYS AND SECURITIES.
The Secretary of the Treasury is authorized in connection with shipments of
Government moneys and securities to incur necessary expenses for insurance.
Comptroller Downey to the Secretary of the Treasury, November 13, 1914 :
I am in receipt of your letter of November 9, in which you request my deci-
sion as to whether you are authorized to incur certain expenses in connection
with the insurance of moneys and securities of the Government which you
propose to ship by mail through the medium of the Parcel Post Service, and in
which you state: - -
“Shipments of moneys and securties of the Government have been made for
the past 25 years under a contract with the United States Express Co., dated
March 31, 1889, as modified and amended November 1, 1894, and June 1, 1912,
and terminated, if in fact still in force, under date of October 5, 1914, by depart-
ment letter, a copy of which is inclosed herewith.
“There is now no contract for this service. When bids were invited not long
since, with a view to the letting of a new contract, they were all so high that
I felt it my duty not to accept them, and I have not and do not now regard it as
practicable to provide for such shipments by contract. \
“Payments for this transportation service have been made from the appro-
priations “Contingent expenses, Independent Treasury,’ and “Contingent ex-
penses national currency, reimbursable.” In the fiscal year 1914 the former
appropriation was in the amount of $265,000 (including $115,000 deficiency),
and the latter in the nature of an indefinite appropriation of $240,000. Tay-
ments to the express Company from the former appropriation almounted to
$179,018.62, and from the reimbursable appropriation to $263.509.21. It is esti-
mated that the expenditures for express charges, if all shipments are so made,
during the current fiscal year will be increased over the amounts paid in the
fiscal year 1914, owing to the increased shipments of coin and currency.
“I have under consideration the advisability of making shipments of moneys
and Securities in the immediate future by mail, through the use of the Parcel
Post Service of the Post Office Department, the rates on which will he con-
siderably reduced below the rates formerly paid under the express company
contract. For instance, in a recent shipment of $50,000,000 from the Philadel-
phia Mint to the New York Subtreasury, the total transportation and other
charges amounted to only $3,376.18, while the charges would have been $25,000
had the shipment been made under the old express company contract.
“In handling these shipments at the higher rates, the express company has
assumed all risks and has insured the delivery of the money, but since the
Post Office Department does not insure it will be necessary to further safeguard
the shipments by a reasonable amount of insurance. I consider the cost of
insurance (which is relatively nominal) and that of postage as transportation
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charges, both included in payments made to an express company, and call your
attention to the fact that both together, except in case of very long hauls, are
much less than express charges would be. -
“I request your decision as to whether charges for insurance, as an essential
element of the Cost of transportation. in such reasonable announts as may be
deemed necessary, and authorized by me, may not be paid from the appropria-
tions ‘Contingent expenses, Independent Treasury,’ and “Contingent expenses,
mational currency, reimbursable,” in cases where it may be deented advisable to
make shipments by parcel post instead of by express.”
The appropriation “Contingent expenses, Independent Treasury,” provides
as follows: - - -
“I'Or Contingent expenses under the requirements of Section 3653 of the
Revised Statutes of the United States, for the collection, safe-keeping, transfer,
and disbursement of the public money, for transportation of notes, bonds, and
Other Securities Of the United States * * *.”
Section 3653, Revised Statutes, provides as follows:
“The officers, respectively, whose duty it is made by this title to receive,
keep, or disburse the public moneys, as the fiscal agents of the Government,
may be allowed any necessary additional expenses for clerks, fireproof chests
Ol' vaults. Or other necessary expenses of Safe-keeping, transferring, or dis-
bursing the moneys; but all such expenses of every character shall be first
expressly authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury, whose directions upon
all the above subjects, by way of regulation and otherwise, so far as authorized
by law, shall be strictly followed by all the Officers.”
The question of insurance of Government property is by no means a new
One, having been the subject of numerous decisions heretofore, and most, if not
all, of these decisions have held against the propriety of Government officers
incurring eXpenses for the insurance Of Government property both upon the
ground that the appropriations sought to be charged with the expense were
not available and because it was held to be against the policy of the Govern-
ment to insure its property.
As applicable to Ordinary fire insurance, these (lecisions Were light and must
be adhered to. Congress has not only to some extent indicated its policy as
to insurance of Government property, but it must be assumed that if it had
intended that such a policy should prevail specific appropriations therefor would
have been made. The declared policy of the Government against insurance is
found more in Comptrollers’ Decisions than in specific declaration by Congress,
but it has its foundation as stated and is a policy which should be adhered to
until Congress indicates a contrary intention. But it does not necessarily follow
that adherence to that policy must prevent you from handling the transportation
of moneys as good judgment and the interests of the Government dictate.
The only statute of which I am aware attempting in any degree to prescribe
how money, bullion. Coin, etc., shall be transported is found in the act of July 7,
1884, 23 Statutes at Targe, page 204, where it is provided as follows:
“* * * and hereafter, whenever it is practicable, contracts for the trans-
portation of moneys, bullion, coin, notes, bonds, and other Securities* of the
United States, and paper shall he let to the lowest responsible bidder therefor,
after notice to all parties having means of transportation.”
This statute clearly indicates the intention of Congress at the time, but the use
Of the Words “whenever it is practicable '' is significant, indicating an anticipa-
tion that such a method might at times be impracticable and vesting a discretion
in such event to follow some other course, and the discretion is for your exercise.
You have indicated in your submission that you do not now regard the contract
method as practicable, and such conclusion on your part disposes, for the time,
at leaSt. Of the Statute cited.
And I have already suggested that the frequently cited governmental policy
as to insurance should not prevent the exercise of your judgment in the public
interest. No merely constructive policy should be invoked to prevent the appli-
cation of sound business principles and entail largely increased expenditure.
The fact that you may safely transport money in the proposed way at a very
considerable saving in expense to the Government speaks strongly in its favor.
Having determined that the proposed method is the best method available and
that you deem transportation by, contract impracticable, I think it clearly fol-
lows that until Such time as a contract may be found practicable it is within
your right to follow the suggested course if there be an appropriation available
for the purpose.
The appropriations out of which expense of transportation of moneys and
securities llave been paid have provided generally for their safe-keeping and
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transportation. Under heretofore prevalent methods the expense of transporta-
tion paid to an express company has undoubtedly included a guaranty of the
Safe delivery of the shipments, an insurance against loss, and the charge has
no doubt been predicated more largely upon the responsibility assumed for Safe
delivery than upon the mere expense of transportation. It would seem to be
obstruction rather than promotion of the methods you might regard as most
advantageous to hold that you might pay an express company for guaranteeing
the safety of a shipment Of money, but might not pay Some other COrporation
for doing the same thing, a holding that you might do indirectly and under
another name what you could not do directly and by its true name.
Section 3653, Revised Statutes, quoted above, and referred to in the appro-
priation act, also quoted, authorizes in broad terms the payment of the lleces-
sary expenses both of Safe-keeping and transferring moneys. Safe-keeping in
transit is as necessary as under any other condition and as much a duty.
I am of the opinion that any, appropriations available for the transportation of
money by express under contract are equally available when not limited in
terms to that method for its actual transportation by any other adopted method,
and if, in your judgment, insurance in transit is a necessary incident to its
transportation and safe-keeping such appropriations are also available therefor,
provided that such expense is first authorized by you as required by the Section
referred. to.
I call particular attention to the fact that such expense should be first author-
ized by you and not simply approved by you after being incurred, and suggest
that in the event you do not wish to specifically authorize insurance in each
Case you provide by some adequate Order the cases in which insurance is author-
ized by you and the amount thereof.
The CHAIRMAN. The insurance charge of an express company is
quite different from the insurance charge of an independent
company? -
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. When you ship by an express company they
charge a certain rate, under which they guarantee safe delivery?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes; they insure the delivery of it. If we ship by
mail, in Order to get the same protection it is necessary for us to
get Some outside insurance. . . .
The CHAIRMAN. They can not give any guarantee?
Mr. MALBURN. The post office can not.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean the outside insurance company can not
give any guarantee. They are just gambling on the risk? -
Mr. MALBURN. They pay us if we lose it. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you taken out any of that kind of insurance?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much has it cost so far?
Mr. MALBURN. I will furnish that information and give you the
exact rate. Some of these large shipments we made from Philadel-
phia to New York we insured, but we only insured 10 per cent;
that is, for every $1,000,000 we would insure $100,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. And they went in $10,000,000 lots and one
$20,000,000 lot? -
Mr. MALBURN. Yes. So that we had practically the greater part
of every individual shipment insured. I think the rate the insurance
companies made us was something like one-tenth of 1 per cent, but
I will find that out and give you the exact information.
The CHAIRMAN. I would like to have that. If you had to insure
all of the entire $50,000,000 it would have cost you $250,000?
Mr. MALBURN. It did not cost us anything like that. On this par-
ticular shipment of $50,000,000 we insured one-tenth, or $5,000,000.
The insurance charge was $1,000, or at the rate of one-fiftieth of
1 per cent. The total charges on this shipment by mail, including
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insurance, amounted to $3,376.18, or at the rate of about 6% cents per
$1,000, as against the old express contract rate of 50 cents per $1,000.
The Saving on this one shipment amounted to approximately $22,000.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the use of insuring when you ship under
conditions like those under which you shipped this money from
Philadelphia to New York?
Mr. MALBURN. It is just an additional precaution. a'
The CHAIRMAN. There was not any possible chance of losing that
money the way it was shipped?
Mr. MALBURN. There was a possible chance, although there was
not very much of a chance. The additional expense was so little,
together with the parcel-post stamps, and it was so much less than
the express rate that we felt under the circumstances we were
justified in taking out this insurance on it. If at the end of that
trip we had found one bag containing $5,000 lost, we would have felt
rather chagrined if we had not insured it, because it would not have
cost us over $10,000 to have insured the whole thing, and that is the
way it is shipped, in $5,000 bags, and it is just put into the cars in
that way. -
º çºsmºs. Will you let us know just how much you spent
all told :
Mr. MALBURN. The total payments for insurance to date amount to
$1,825 on shipments aggregating $85,150,000, as follows:
$50,000,000, Philadelphia to New York, of which $5,000,000 was insured
at rate Of One-fiftieth of 1 per cent__________________________________ $1, 000
$30,000,000, Philadelphia to New York, of which $3,000,000 was insured
at rate of One-fiftieth of 1 per cent_____ ºm * * * 600
$5,000,000, Philadelphia to Boston, of which $500,000 was insured at rate
Of One-thirty-third of 1 per Cent–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 150
$50,000, San Francisco to Hawaii, of which the full amount was insured
at rate of one-twentieth of 1 per cent - - - - - 25
$100,000, San Francisco to Hawaii, of which the full amount was insured
at rate of One-twentieth of 1 per cent________ ----------------------- 50
1, 825
The savings to the Government on the above shipments by mail
instead of by express as formerly, including the cost of insurance,
amount to approximately $35,000. s
The CHAIRMAN. The whole policy of the Government has been
against insurance.
Mr. MALBURN. If we did not have the right to insure this, I do
not think we would care to try to make these shipments by mail. In
the case of gold it may be all right, but when it comes to shipping
paper money, suppose it burns up or is destroyed in any Way.
The CHAIRMAN. You would want to insure the Treasury notes?
Mr. MALBURN. Yes, sir; everything we shipped out, when we get
So we can ship by mail. &
The CHAIRMAN. Is this parcel post stuff registered mail?
Mr. MALBURN. No ; the parcel post and registered mail are two
different ways of shipping. -
The CHAIRMAN. This language only refers to shipments of money
by registered mail. *
Mr. MALBURN. I think the word “registered " should be cut out
and it should read “shipments of money by mail,” because there is
really less need of insurance when shipped by registered mail than
by parcel post. -
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RECOIN AGE OF GOLD COIN S.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “For recoinage of light-weight
gold coins in the Treasury.” The appropriation is $3,000 and your
estimate is $7,000. This is the amount of money required to make
up the loss in Weight between the standard coin and the coin that
is recoined? How do you, anticipate you will need so much more
next year? -
Mr. DASKAMI. It runs along about that amount—$7,000.
The CHAIRMAN. This year you only ask for $3,000.
Mr. MALBURN. In 1914 we had $7,789—an appropriation of $5,000
and a deficiency of $2,789. • -
The CHAIRMAN. How much are you spending this year?
Mr. DASKAM. I think we are asking for $7,000. We have not
spent anything yet. -
Mr. MALBURN. We have been waiting until we got through the
examination of the subtreasuries.
Mr. DASKAM. As we examine a subtreasury office we take in all the
light weight that is in the office and send it to the mint for re-
coinage. º
The CHAIRMAN. This is a good deal of a guess in advance? You
can never tell what the amount will be? -
Mr. MALBURN. No.
Mr. DASKAM. The light-weight coin is in the subtreasury office,
and if we do not have any appropriation we do not transfer it to
the mint and it accumulates. .
Mr. MALBURN. We have $575,000 on hand now that we know is
light-weight gold.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that a large sum or a small sum?
Mr. DASKAM. That is quite a good deal.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean considering the Way it averages up; is
that high or low % -
Mr. DASKAM. For a number of years it has run along about that
amount.
Mr. MALBURN. That is about the usual amount.
Mr. DASIKAM. Yes.
RECOIN AGE OF MINOR COINS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “For recoinage of minor
coins.” The appropriation is $10,000, and you are asking for
$10,000 for next year? -
Mr. DASKAM. If we have the appropriation we will send the
money to the mint for recoinage, and if we do not have it it simply
accumulates in the subtreasuries.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you spent so far this year?
Mr. DASKAMI. Not a cent. .
The CHAIRMAN. You are not only asking for $10,000 next year, but
for all that you have left over this year? Is this handled in the
same way, and you do not recoin until the subtreasuries are ex-
amined? •
Mr. DASRAM. We have only made one examination this year.
Mr. MALBURN. That money is in the subtreasury just the same as
the gold coins. -
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Mr. THOMPSON. There are on hand approximately one million
and a half pieces so far. *
Mr. DASKAM. We are obliged to redeem it when it comes in. We
can not pay it out after we redeem it, because it is not good stuff.
Mr. MALBURN. There will have to be some appropriation made
some time, because this money just accumulates from year to year,
and if it is not made this year it will have to be made later.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask us to reappropriate the unexpended bal-
ance?
Mr. DASKAM. It is only a very small amount, about $86.
Mr. MoRDELL. You say you have spent no part of the appropria-
tion for 1913%
Mr. MALBURN. No. I explained before you came in, in reference
to the recoinage of gold coins and minor coins, We are not going to "
do anything until after we examine the subtreasuries and find out
how much each one of them has. The light coins will then be
weighed and sent to the mint at Philadelphia, and then the re-
coinage takes place. That Will be done between now and the 1st of
July.
The CHAIRMAN. You have 1,500,000 pieces now Ż .
Mr. MALBURN. Of minor coins, yes; and $575,085 worth of gold
coins. I do not know how many pieces of gold coins. -
Mr. DASKAM. We have more than that now. That statement was
made up in November, and it is gradually increasing every day.
Mr. MALBURN. The principal expense in the gold coin I imagine
would be in the short weight, and in the other coins it is in the
coinage itself.
Mr. DASKAM. The minor coins get rusty and get out of shape, but
nothing is taken from the value of them.
The CHAIRMAN. And in the case of the gold coins it is merely
the difference in value?
Mr. DASKAM. Yes; the gold coin is legal tender in proportion to
its weight, but minor coins are not. *
MONEY LAUN DRY MACHINES.
[See p. 229.]
The CIIAIRMAN. The next item is “ For money laundry machines.”
You are asking for $9,000, and in 1914 you only spent $895.
Mr. THOMPson. When the laundry machines were first installed
we had a lump-sum appropriation of $60,000 to purchase the ma-
chines and also to purchase supplies. We purchased sufficient sup-
plies for two years, 1913 and 1914, and therefore in 1914 we only
had $1,300 appropriated for the upkeep of the machines.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you spend this year?
Mr. THOMPSON. We have spent about $3,000 up until the 1st of
December, and we estimate that on the requisitions coming in it will
take the balance of the appropriation of $6,000 between now and the
1st of July.
The CHAIRMAN. Are all the machines used?
Mr. MALBURN. No; not all of them.
Mr. THOMPSON. There were 12 machines set up, but not more than
8 or 9 of them are actively in use all the time. In the Treasurer's
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office there are 4 machines, and they keep 2 or 3 of those going all
the time. In the New York office there are 4 machines, and most of
them are going regularly.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you wash as many notes as was anticipated?
Mr. THOMPSON. I think so. Last year we washed 35,000,000 notes,
and that is pretty close to what was estimated.
Mr. MoRDELL. What was the estimated saving by the use of the
laundry machines? -
Mr. THOMPson. If the life of a laundered note is the same as the
life of a new note it would be about $9 a thousand, and on the
35,000,000 notes washed last year it would be about $350,000; but
the actuary has been unable to determine up to this time whether
the life of a laundered note is equal to the life of a pew note or not.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you find the same objection now as formerly
to these washed notes?
Mr. THOMPSON. We now receive no complaints at all, to my
knowledge. -
The CHAIRMAN. That has all died out?
Mr. THOMIPSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. MALBURN. I do not think the average man would know the
difference.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you ever wash a note the second time?
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes; in fact, we do not know.
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not know when a note comes back whether
it has been laundered or not? e -
Mr. THOMPSON. Sometimes we find notes that we can tell have
been laundered. The employees who are familiar with the laundry
work can tell better than others. They find sometimes that laun-
dered notes come back, and they run them through again and put
them out, and I imagine there are a good many notes that have
been laundered and come in and gone out a second time.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you use all of your machines at one time or
another? -
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the average cost of supplies? Does
it take all the $9,000?
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes. It has been pretty close to that amount each
year.
Mr. MALBURN. That is largely for soap chips? .
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes; that is the largest item.
- WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 1914.
SUPPRESSION OF COUNTERFEITING.
STATEMENT OF MR. WILLIAM J. FLYNN, CHIEF OF THE SECRET-
SERVICE DIVISION.
The CHAIRMAN. “Suppressing counterfeiting and other crimes,”
the appropriation is $145,000, and you are asking $145,000 for
next year. I thought you had your force in such efficient shape that
all counterfeiting had stopped.
256 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. FLYNN. We have it at a minimum, but if we stopped getting
after counterfeiters they would soon get it up to the maximum.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the situation this last year in
reference to counterfeiting? -
Mr. FLYNN. About the same as the year previous. The number
of arrests increased somewhat; the amount of counterfeit money
captured was about the same. •
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give us a statement of your activities?
Mr. FLYNN. The number of arrests throughout the country was
368. It is safe to figure that about 85 per cent of those arrests re-
sulted in convictions, because that is about an average. The amount
of counterfeit money captured was, United States notes, $12,397 ;
gold certificates, $5,630; silver certificates, $13,334: national-bank
notes, $5,693; altered, $4,057; fractional currency, $148; Treasury
notes, $539. There was $22,319.42 in counterfeit coin captured and
put out of circulation. We captured 154 plates for the manufacture
of different notes, 36 dies, metal dies, 152 molds for the manufacture
of counterfeit money. Then there was a large amount of miscella-
neous contraband property, consisting of tools, presses, and stuff of
that kind, captured in different raids.
The CHAIRMAN. Have there any new counterfeits of a particularly
dangerous character been put in circulation? *
Mr. FLYNN. Not of a dangerous character, not since two and a half
years ago. We still have a dangerous $5 note, which is practically
stopped. # :
The CHAIRMAN. That Indian head note?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes; that note is still in circulation. We have been
hammering away at it, but unfortunately no one who receives those
notes can give us a description of the passer, but they have prac-
tically stopped.
The CHAIRMAN. You never located the maker of that note?
Mr. FLYNN. We are now going through a process of elimination
of the men who are capable of doing that kind of work and that is
a long, tedious job. We take up a man capable of doing that kind
of work, investigate his habits and cover him, and then go from
one to another in that Way, but we have not as yet come across any-
one whom we can connect up with this note. You understand, Our
force is so limited that we can only do it in a small way.
The CHAIRMAN. Were many of those notes put in circulation?
Mr. FILYNN. I think, altogether, perhaps 1,000 or a little more
have been put in circulation in the last two years and a half, mostly
in the Eastern States. We have not found them west of Cleveland
as yet. -
The CHAIRMAN. When they start to passing counterfeit notes do
they pass them as new notes or do they make them look as if they
were worn a little? t - -
Mr. FLYNN. That all depends; some counterfeiters will take a
counterfeit note and steep it in a solution of weak coffee to give it
an old appearance, and some will Saturate it with glycerin to give
it an old greasy appearance; but where the workmanship is fine
they do not as a rule do that. They depend upon their skill to get
by with the counterfeit note.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it easier to detect them when they are new Or
when they are worn a little?
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Mr. FLYNN. Of course, a shopkeeper would be more apt to scruti-
Ilize a new note that appeared to be a little off color than an old
greasy note which had been greased with glycerin or discolored with
coffee. We have practically wiped out the manufacture of counter-
feit coin from sterling silver. We were troubled some years ago by
men who were making counterfeit silver coin out of coin about 937
fine, whereas the Government coin is only 900 fine. Of course, they
can do that and make 100 per cent profit, but we have practically
wiped that out. There is no more of that going on at the present
time. That was mostly in and around New York. We got about 25
convictions of makers of such coin.
Mr. MoRDELL. Did they make a pretty good looking coin?
Mr. FLYNN. They used practically the same process the Govern-
ment uses—steel dies, hydraulic press—and would buy an ounce of
silver for 50 cents, out of which they could strike off five 25-cent
COII].S. *
Mr. MoRDELL. They issued quarters principally?
Mr. FLYNN. The 50-cent coin is the most popular coin that is
counterfeited. .
The CHAIRMAN. Did you have any money left in this appropria-
tion in 1914? - -
Mr. FLYNN. I think about $600 or $700. -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for some additional authority to
rent and operate or purchase motor-propelled or horse-drawn
vehicles? *
Mr. FLYNN. We simply want to continue the rental of an auto-
mobile at $500 a year, such as we have had in the last two years for
the protection of the person of the President. That $500 rental
includes repairs and the tires, and in the course of a year I believe
the tires cost more than $500. - .
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any trouble about renting these auto-
mobiles?
Mr. FLYNN. We rent that machine from the same concern that
leases the White House machines.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any trouble about your authority to do
that.
Mr. FLYNN. We are asking for that authority now.
The CHAIRMAN. You have had the machine for two years?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes; but you passed a law recently which compels us
to ask for this authority. -
The CHAIRMAN. You rent the machine? .
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir. We simply pay for the gasoline and pro-
vide the chauffeur. -
The CHAIRMAN. You also ask for authority to allow a per diem
of $4 in lieu of subsistence to persons employed under this appro- .
priation while engaged in field work or traveling on official business
outside the District of Columbia and away from their designated
posts of duty. Why is this? ar
Mr. FLYNN. As I understand it, the law provides that a Govern-
ment officer can not charge more than $5 a day for actual subsistence,
and must furnish vouchers, and so on. We ask that this amount be
fixed in lieu of that.
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The CHAIRMAN. This merely continues the present policy of the
service?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir; exactly.
The CHAIRMAN. If a man is assigned to duty outside the District
of Columbia and away from his designated post, then he is allowed
the subsistence?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir; not to exceed $4 a day.
The CHAIRMAN. But he is not allowed subsistence when he is
working at the place where his headquarters are? -
Mr. FLYNN. He is not. He has to be away from his designated
headquarters before he can charge the subsistence. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Has it been your practice to grant a flat allowance
of $4 a day to your men?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir; that has been the custom for the last Seven
or eight years.
Mr. MoRDELL. They are not required to present vouchers covering
those expenditures?
Mr. FLYNN. Not when we can fix it in this manner.
Mr. MoRDELL. You fix it at $4 a day for all the men?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MoRDELL. You think that is a reasonable amount considering
the work they have to do and the expenses? - -
Mr. FLYNN. No; I do not think it is, because it costs $4 a day to
live at a $2.50 or $3 a day hotel. A man has a hard time getting by
on $4 a day. When I travel I am only allowed $4 a day, and I some-
times pay that amount for a room and pay the rest out of my own
pocket.
Mr. MoRDELL. Under the law you could allow yourself $5?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. On vouchers?
Mr. FLYNN. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. But you prefer the other way ?
Mr. FLYNN. The men in the Service prefer it that way.
Mr. MoRDELL. You prefer to go on the same basis that the men do.
at $4 a day ! .
Mr. FLYNN. Since the maximum is $5 a day I prefer it that way;
yes, Sir. g
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 31, 1914.
CUSTOMS SERVICE.
STATEMENTS OF HON. ANDREW J. PETERS, ASSISTANT SECRE-
TARY OF THE TREASURY, AND MR. F. M. HALSTEAD, CHIEF OF
THE DIVISION OF CUSTOMS. ſº
EXPENSES OF COLLECTION.
[See p. 262.]
The CHAIRMAN. For collecting the revenue from customs the cur-
rent appropriation is $10,150,000, and your estimate for 1916 is
$10,150,000. Why do you need so much each year, with the imports
falling off so greatly?
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Mr. PETERs. Well, the principal expenses keep right on independ-
ently of imports. We are obliged to maintain the customhouses with
practically the same force that we have now. .
The CHAIRMAN. Is the customs force a permanent force.
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir; it is a permanent force. Very few of the
expenses depend on fluctuations of imports. Only the cartage and
some of the smaller expenses are affected by the present falling off.
The CHAIRMAN. How much was expended in 1914?
Mr. PETERs. There was expended in 1914 $10,446,000.
The CHAIRMAN. That was within $4,000 of the appropriation?
Mr. HALSTEAD. We had a deficiency of $300,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. The other day I saw a statement in the annual
report of a collector of customs in which he pointed out the fact that
he had saved $93,000 by the efficient methods that he had installed:
do you take that off from this appropriation? - - •,
Mr. PETERs. The appropriation that we are asking for this year is
$300,000 less than the expenses of last year.
DECREASE IN IREVENUES.
The CHAIRMAN. The customs revenues have fallen off?
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir; very considerably. .
The CHAIRMAN. How much? -
Mr. PETERs. For the last six months, or since the last of June,
as compared with the same six-months period of a year ago, they
have fallen off about $47,000,000. . ..
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any estimate of what the customs rev-
enues will be for this fiscal year? ..
Mr. PETERs. We estimate $220,000,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you estimate that they will be that or would
be that?
Mr. PETERs. That they will be that under present conditions—tha
is, having in view the international conditions existing to-day; but,
of course, that must necessarily be more or less of a rough estimate,
because it is impossible to tell what complications may come in
which would further affect it.
The CHAIRMAN. Have nondutiable imports fallen off in proportion
with dutiable imports? -
Mr. PETERS. Yes; about the same; and, of course, Mr. Chairman,
the figures which I gave you compare with last year, three months
of which period was under the Payne law.
The CHAIRMAN. So that it is very difficult to make a comparison?
Mr. PETERs. We estimated a difference of about $60,000,000 a year
between the Payne law and the Underwood law, and that would be
$5,000,000 a month. That would account for, roughly, $15,000,000,
which would bring the falling off due to the war up to about
$35,000,000. - * * R
The CHAIRMAN. I thought you stated that this was for six months?
Mr. PETERs. I did; but that is for the three-months period. How-
ever, the Underwood bill was running much better as a producer of
revenue than our estimates indicated. It was running over the esti-
mate right along. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a statement showing what that was?
Mr. PETERs. Yes; I have prepared a statement showing that.
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sundRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Read it and let it go in the record,
(The statement referred to is as follows:)
Duty collected monthly for the fiscal Ayear 1914, compared with the correspond-
ing months of 1913.
t
1912. 1913. Deficit. Increase.
July--------------------------------------------------- $28,136,502 |$27,806,655 $329,847 .......... --
August.------------------------------------------------ 30, 205, 232 || 30,934,952 . . . . . . . . . . . . $729,720
September--------------------------------------------- 27,475,128 26,794,494 680,634 |............
October------------------------------------------------ 30,216,824 30, 138,049 78,775 |... . . . . . . . . .
November--------------------------------------------- 25,666,353 21, 173,628 || 4,492, 725 |............
December. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24, 248, 161 || 21, 510, 140 2, 738,021 |. . . . . . . . . . . .
1913. 1914.
January----------------------------------------------- 29,334, 124 23, 528,080 5,806,044 |... . . . . . . . . .
February---------------------------------------------- 27,605,116 17,609,604 || 9,995, 512 |... . . . . . . . . .
March---------------------------------------- * * * * * * * * * * 27,457,489 || 25,927,213 | 1,530,276 |. . . . . . . . . . . .
April--------------------------------------------------- 23,693,967 22,232,767 || 1,461,200 |... . . . . . . . . .
Aſay. -------------------------------------------------- 20, 434, 749 20,800, 573 . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,824
June--------------------------------------------------- 23,668, 599 || 23,553,448 115, 151 |.......... --
1914 1915.
July--------------------------------------------------- 27,806, 654 22,988,465 4,818, 189 |......... . . .
August.------------------------------------------------ 30,934,952 | 19,431,363 || 11, 503,589 |............
Sept. mber--------------------------------------------- 26,794,494 || 17,225,887 9,568,607 |. . . . . . . . . . . .
October------------------------------------------------ 30, 138,049 16,271,829 13,866,220 |............
No ember--------------------------------------------- 21, 173,628 || 16,924,408 4, 249,220 - - - - - - - - - - - -
December---------------------------------------------. 21,510, 140 14,890,982 | 6,619, 158 |......... . . .
Mr. PETERs. We had estimated that the revenues from customs
under the Underwood bill would run about $5,000,000 per month
behind those of the Payne Act, but, as a matter of fact, for the last
four months of the last fiscal year they ran at most only from a mil-
lion to a million and a half dollars behind—that is, the revenues
under the Underwood law ran, three or four million dollars per
month greater than we had estimated it would run.
The CHAIRMAN. When you refer to years in that statement you
mean fiscal years?
Mr. PETERs. Yes; and I refer to this current fiscal year as 1915.
H also submit a table showing the value of imports and duty col-
lected monthly for the fiscal year 1914 compared with the corre-
sponding months of 1913.
(The table referred to is as follows:)
Value of imports and duty collected monthly for the fiscal year 1914 compared
with the corresponding months of 1913.

1913 1914
Value. Duty. Value. Duty.
1912.
July: *
Free--------------------------------------- $77, 130,205 $28,136,502 || $71,806,155 $27,806,655
Dutiable----------------------------------- 71,586,533 ||-------------- 67,478,415 |..............
August:
Free--------------------------------------- 84,068,025 |.............. 69,959,950 |..............
Dutiable. . . . . . . . . . ...---------------------- 70,688,745 30,205,232 67,727,770 30,934,952
September: -
Free. -------------------------------------- 76,523,920 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 91,940,627 |..............
Dutiable.---------------------------------- 68,295,573 27,475,128 79,053,216 26,794,494
October: -
Free-s:------------------------------------ 102,711,717 |.............. 81,551,001 |... . . . . . . . . . . .
Dutiable.---------------------------.!------ 75,276,269 30,216,824 51,327,895 30, 138,049
November:
Free-, ------------------------------------- 89,688,024 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91,477,872 |...............
Dutiable. . . . . . . . . . . . . .--------------------- 63,406,874 25,666,353 56,738,664 21, 173,628
December: -
Free--------------------------------------- 90,051,367 |... . . . . . . . . . . . 118,087,218 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dutiable. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64,034,077 24, 248, 161 66,500, 353 21,510, 140

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Value of 4mports and duty collected monthly for the fiscal year 1914 compared
with the 'corresponding months of 1913–Continued.

1913 1914
Value. Duty. Value. Duty.
1913
January: *
Free--------------------------------------- $90,413,718 |.............. $94, 190,460 |.. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dutiable----------------------------------- 72,649,720 $29,334,124 || 60,227,787 $23,528,080
February:
Free--------------------------------------- 80, 101,323 -...---------- 92,400,568 |..............
M Dutiable.---------------------------------- 69,812,595 27,605,116 55,572,808 17,609,604
8.TCIl:
T66 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 84,216,033 |.............. 111,853,628 |..............
A Putiable * * * * * = dº º ºs º sº e º 'º º º º sº gº º ºs º º ſº º sº º º ſº º sº º ºs & 71,229,465 27,457,489 70,909,326 25,927,213
pr11:
90- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 76,826,345 |.............. 107,913,514 |..............
Dutiable--------------------...------------ 69,368, 116 23,693,967 || 65,982,962 22,232,767
ay:
90- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 69,006,928 |.............. 103,076,377 |...... .* * * * * * ~ *
J Dutiable---------------------------------.. 64,716,785 20,434,749 61, 133, 138 20,800,573
lide:
Free-s:------------------------------------ 66,786,557 -............. 93,446,162 |.......... ---.
Dutiable.--------------------...----------- 64,459,320 23,553,448 64,083,388 23,668,509
Total free................. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 987,524, 162 |.............. 1, 127,703,432 |..............
Total dutiable. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 825,484,072 |.............. 766,733,722 ||------.........
- 1,813,008,234 || 318,027, 194 1,894,437, 154 292, 124,754
Mr. MondELL. Mr. Secretary, reference has been made to the fall-
ing off in imports.
Of course, that is only a figure of speech, and,
as a matter of fact, there has been no falling off in imports, but,
rather, there has been an increase in imports; is not that true?
Mr. PETERs. The imports were increased in October of this year,
but the imports for the last few months are less.
Mr. MondELL. I have a table here of imports for the 13 months
beginning with October, 1913, down to and including October, 1914,
(The table referred to is as follows:)
Comparative Statement of imports and duty collected during the 18 month 8
from October, 1913, to October, 1914, inclusive, and during the preceding 18
months, September, 1912, to September, 1913, inclusive.
Compiled from tables of imports of merchandise by months, Monthly Summary of Finance and Commerce
Department of Commerce.]
Imports. T. evenue. Imports. Revenue.
1913. - 1912.
October. . . . . . . . . . . . . $132,878,896 || $30,138,049 || September... . . . . . . . $144,819,493 $27,475,127
November. . . . . . . . . . 148,216,536 21, 173,628 || October. . . . . . . . . . . . . 177,987,986 30, 216,824
December. . . . . . . . . . . 184,587, 57.1 21, 610, 140 || November. . . . . . . . . . 153,094, 898 25. 666,353
December. . . . . . . . . . . 154,095,444 24, 248, 161
1914
January.... . . . . . . . . . 154,418, 247 23, 528,080 1913,
February. . . . . . . . . . . 147,973, 376 17,609, 604 || January. . . . . . . . . . . . . 163,063,438 29,334, 124
arch.... . . . . . . . . . . . 182,762,954 25,927, 213 || February. . . . . . . . . . . 149,913,918 27,605,116
April... . . . . . . . . . . . . . 173,896,476 22,232,766 || March... . . . . . . . . . . . . 155,445, 498 27,457,489
ay---- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 164,209,515 20,800, 573 || April..... . . . . . . . . . . . 146, 194,461 23,693,967
June. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157, 529,450 23,533,448 || May..... . . . . . . . . . . . . 133,723,713 20,434,749
July...... . . . . . . . . . . . 159, 677,291 22,988,465 || June. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 131,245,877 23,608, 599
August.............. 129,767,890 19,431, 363 || July.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . 139,061, 770 27,806, 655
September. . . . . . . . . . 140,089,611 17,225,887 || August..... . . . . . . . . . 137,651, 553 30,934,952
October. . . . . . . . . . . . . 138,080, 520 16, 271, 829 || September. . . . . . . . . . 171,084,843 26,794,494
Total.... . . . . . . 2,014,088,333 282, 571,045 OU81. - - - - - - - - - 1,957,382,892 345,276,610
1912–13. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,957, 382,892 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1913–14--. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 282, 571,045
Excess imports, Decrease in revenue,
1913-14. . . . . . . . . . . . 56,705, 441 - . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1913-14------------|--------- . . . . . . . 62,705, 565
NOTE.-Imports for Septembor
of October under the tariſt law of 1909.
1913, include approximately $13,665,000 entered during the first 3 days .
262 sun DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. MoRDELL. This table shows a total importation of $2,014,088,-
333 for the period beginning with October, 1913, and ending with
October, 1914.
Mr. PETERs. They were very considerably increased all through
last winter and spring.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is for 13 months. Then, taking the 13 months
immediately preceding—that is, from September, 1912, to and in-
cluding September, 1913—the total of importations was $1,957,382,-
892. The imports for the 13 months’ period of 1912–13, under
the Payne Act, were less than the imports for the 13 months’ period
of 1913–14, under the Underwood Act, by $56,705,441, but in the
same period there was a reduction in revenues of $62,705,565. So
that you have had an increase of imports, but a decrease of revenues?
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir. We have free wool and a change in the
rates on sugar. Both of those things make a considerable difference.
Mr. MoRDELL. Have you the complete figures for the month of
November showing the imports and revenues? -
Mr. PETERs. Yes; they are.
(The statement is as follows:)

November, November,
1913. 1914.
value of imports.............. ~~~~ $153,094,898 || $126,467,062
Duties. ...------------------------------------------------------------------- 21,173,627 | 16,924,407
EXPENSES OF COLLECTION.
[See p. 258.]
The CHAIRMAN. Regardless of what the imports and revenues are,
is it necessary to maintain the existing customs organization?
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir. For instance, the imports come intermit-
tently, and at times we need as large a force to handle the incoming
vessels at New York and other large ports as we ever did. There is
also a tendency toward the resumption of normal conditions in
trade, which is indicated by the increase in the revenues, and, of
course, we must be prepared to meet normal conditions when they
arise.
The CHAIRMAN. Because of the War, was your customs force en-
gaged on work that ordinarily is not necessary to have done?
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir. We have the enforcement of the neutrality
laws, and it has been necessary to detail quite a large number of
men in New York and a considerable number in Boston, also, on
work particularly connected with the inspection of various steam-
ships there to be sure that they do nothing in the way of loading,
etc., which would amount to a breach of the neutrality laws.
The CHAIRMAN. So that any falling off in the work because of
the slackening of imports is made up by reason of those unusual
duties?
Mr. PETERs. To a very considerable extent.
Mr. MoRDELL. There has been a larger volume of imports in the
last year than in the year previous, but there has been a smaller
amount of revenue collected. Now, to what extent is your force
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 263
relieved by reason of the reduction of the amount of duty that you
collect? In other words, to what extent is your force relieved by
reason of the reduction of the amount collected, and to what extent
is that made up by other work connected with imports that do not
bring any revenues? * ...sº
Mr. PETERs. They are not greatly affected by that. Of course,
wool, which is a very large staple that has gone on the free list,
does not require as much attention as before, but there is still a duty
on sugar which makes it necessary to weigh and test all of the sugar.
Mr. MoRDELL. So that you have as much work in connection with
sugar importations as you would have if you obtained a larger
revenue from them?
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. In the matter of wool and other articles of that
sort, your duties in cónnection with their importation are consider-
ably lessened? -
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir.
Mr. HALSTEAD. I would say that while wool does not have to
be weighed, because it is on the free list, still it has to be examined,
because Angora goat hair, which resembles it, is dutiable. In other
words, examinations must be made in order to be sure that it is
wool that is being imported.
Mr. MoRDELL. In the case of other articles where there is a small
reduction, as in the case of sugar, the increased importations make
for you additional work, while the revenue collected is less?
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes, sir.
DETECTION OF FRAUDS—SPECIAL AGENTS.
... The CHAIRMAN. You are asking permission to expend again $200,-
000 of this appropriation for the detection and prevention of frauds
º the customs revenue. This is for the special agents’ force, is it
Inot :
Mr. PETERs. Yes, sir.
f Mr. HALSTEAD. That is for the fraud roll of the special agents’
iOI’Ce. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you expend the entire $200,000 every year?
Mr. PETERs. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought we would save this $200,000.
Mr. PETERs. We saved $300,000—we have saved $300,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understood from the hearings last year that this
was really only a matter of bookkeeping. -
Mr. HALSTEAD. It is.
Mr. MoRDELL. And that, as a matter of fact, you were put to a con-
siderable amount of trouble in separating the service of a man who
in a general way was preventing fraud when you assigned him espe-
cially and particularly and peculiarly to the work of preventing
fraud?
Mr. HALSTEAD. It would be impossible to say how much of that ap-
propriation is used for the detection and prevention of fraud.
Mr. MoWDELL. What is the advantage of having that segregated?
Mr. HALSTEAD. I do not see any.
Mr. MoRDELL. How about that, Mr. Secretary'
Mr. PETERs. I do not see any.
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Mr. MonBELL. It was made pretty clear to me in the hearings last
year that there was really no good reason for this. If you wanted
to put your whole force at one time on work that might be called the
prevention of fraud, you would do it without any regard to this limi-
tation. On the other hand, under a strict construction, if every time
a man went on special work you were to segregate him from his ordi-
; work in the matter of payment, you would probably exceed your
200,000.
Mr. HALSTEAD. It has always been considered that this was the limit
of the expense of the fraud roll of the special agents’ service.
Mr. MoRDELL. But there is no such thing as a clear and definite
line between the fraud-prevention service and the ordinary service
of the department. t ſº
Mr. HALSTEAD. More than half of the entire appropriation, and I
should say 90 per cent of it, is used for the detection and prevention
of fraud.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much in the fiscal year 1914 did you actually
charge to this item on your books? -
Mr. HALSTEAD. We charged it with the fraud roll of the special
agents’ service.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much did it amount to? & * .
Mr. HALSTEAD. To about $160,000, in round numbers. It was ex-
actly $161,935. •
Mr. MoRDELL. That fraud roll, as I understand it, does not consist
of men who are permanently kept on that roll? -
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes, sir; they are permanent employees, known as
customs agents. &
SALARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. How is it that your salary roll is to be larger in
1916 than in 1914, with all of those eliminations and reductions?
Mr. PETERs. We estimate $10,250,000 -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). 1914 was the high-water year?
Mr. HALSTEAD. I can not explain it.
The CHAIRMAN. After all the eliminations and changes, you now
estimate that in 1916 your total salaries will amount to $9,589,273.50,
and you actually expended in 1914, $9,517,626.45.
Mr. PETERs. That comes from regrading the inspectors along the
Canadian border. I can take you down through all of this estimate
and show you where each change comes in. e
The CHAIRMAN. 1914 was the high-water year in the matter of ex-
penditures, or should be as compared with 1916, because you spent
in 1914, $10,446,000. *
Mr. PETERs. Yes; $500,000 less than the previous year.
The CHAIRMAN. You are reducing your expenditures by $300,000?
Mr. PETERs. If you will turn to the estimate, I think I can show
you where each change is made. For instance, we have done away
with many of the $1,000 grade of clerks.
The CHAIRMAN. What did you put in their places?
Mr. PETERs. Increased the number in the $1,200 grade.
The CHAIRMAN. If you are going to spend $300,000 less next year
than in 1914 you can not do that by increasing.
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes; you can.
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The CHAIRMAN. How % &
Mr. HALSTEAD. Four men at $1,200 ($4,800) to do the work of five
men at $1,000 ($5,000), a met saving of $200. t
The CHAIRMAN. Have you worked it out in that way?
Mr. HALSTEAD. It is worked out in that way in a good many places,
The CHAIRMAN. Then your total will be less instead of greater?
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes. -
CONTINGENT EXPEN SES.
Mr. MoRDELL. I notice in your estimate, on page 83, you have re-
duced the item of contingent expenses for 1916 below the actual ex-
penditures for 1914, $90,000. Along what lines do you expect to
make that saving?
Mr. HALSTEAD. Our rents are given separately and they are $10,000
less. That reduction is largely in the cartage of merchandise and in
the employment of temporary laborers in the weighing of merchan-
dise, because of more efficient methods employed. -
Mr. MondBLL. You expect less expenditures for rent?
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes; $10,000. -
Mr. Mon DELL. Is there some specific item of rent that is going to
be reduced” - . . 2
Mr. HALSTEAD. There is one, for instance, we are paying now $5,500
a year for the rent of wharfage space for revenue cutters devoted
exclusively to customs purposes. It has been questioned by the ac-
counting officers, so they have carried that into their appropriation,
and, of course, that accounts for $5,500; and then the other items
are cases in which we found we were renting whore there was no
necessity.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS.
Mr. MoRDELL. Under the item of miscellaneous expenses, special
agents, and fraud roll you have a reduction of $10,000.
Mr. HALSTEAD. That is due to traveling expenses, and that sort of
thing.
º MoRDELL. You anticipate, then, a saving of $115,000 in these
miscellaneous items?
Mr. PETERs. About that; yes. -
Mr. MoRDELL. The balance of your reduction over 1914 is in your
salary roll ?
Mr. PETERs. Yes; we will cut down the number of employees.
Mr. MoRDELL. How are your expenditures for 1916 going to com-
pare with your expenditures for 1915?
Mr. PETERs. I can only give you the first half, and of course De-
cember has to be estimated. The total advances for the first half of
the fiscal year 1914 are $5,018,717.19, and that shows a saving, com-
pared with the six months’ period of the previous year, of $298,930.60.
Mr. MoRDELL. Then you anticipate getting through this year on
your appropriation without a deficiency?
Mr. PETERs. Yes. -
VEEHICLES.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any motor-propelled or horse-drawn
vehicles paid for out of this appropriation?
266 - SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. PETERs. None that I know of.
Mr. HALSTEAD. Do we own any?
The CHAIRMAN. Do you pay for any?
Mr. HALSTEAD. No, sir; we do not pay for any.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you intend to pay for any?
Mr. PETERs. It is not intended to purchase any motor vehicle.
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not rent any? *
Mr. HALSTEAD. When one is traveling under certain conditions h
can take a taxicab from the station to the hotel, and of course he
rents it for the time being. g
The CHAIRMAN. That is not what I mean; that is a traveling
expense.
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes. We have nothing that comes under the pro-
visions of the recent act. - - -
Mr. PETERs. We have just had estimates for cartage in New York
submitted, and I notice that the lowest estimate contemplates the
doing of that cartage by motor vehicles, and an examination is being
made of the bids now. -
The CHAIRMAN. That is contracts?
Mr. PETERs. Yes; that is contracts. -
The CHAIRMAN. The statute contemplates only passenger-carry-
ing vehicles? tº
Mr. PETERs. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you fixed any sum for subsistence in lieu of
actual expenses under that act? *
Mr. HALSTEAD. I do not think so.
PANAMA-PACIFIC INTERNATIONAL ExPOSITION.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking that the unexpended balance of
the appropriation made by the sundry civil act for the fiscal year
1915 for the necessary expenses and salaries of the Customs Service
at the Panama-Pacific International Exposition be continued and
made available for the fiscal year 1916.
The $200,000 was appropriated on the theory that it would cover
the entire cost, and this is to continue the appropriation to the next
fiscal year, when the exposition will end? -
Mr. PETERs. Yes.
Mr. HALSTEAD. It will cover the entire cost.
Mr. MoRDELL. Have you the plan pretty well worked out now %
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. You were not very clear last year what you could
do, or should do. - -
Mr. HALSTEAD. Our plans are finished, and it will cost about $165,-
000 for the exposition. -
Mr. MoRDELL. You think you will 'be able to carry it through for
that amount?
Mr. HALSTEAD. I think so. It is pretty hard to tell exactly, be-
cause the exposition has not opened, although we are operating
there, because the imports are arriving. ' -
Mr. MoRDELL. You are far enough along to have a pretty clear
idea of what you will have to do? #
Mr. PETERs. We have our plans all completed and know the num-
ber of men we expect to use. -
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Mr. HALSTEAD. They estimated $500,000, and we cut it to $250,000;
and you cut us to $200,000, and then we saw we would have to get
busy and see what we could do, and this is the result.
Mr. MondBLL. That is $50,000 which the chairman saved against
my protest, because it seemed to me after the hearing that you had
cut their estimate down pretty well. Clearly their original estimate
was out of all reason.
Mr. HALSTEAD. It was. •
Mr. MoRDELL. Your reductions seemed to me to be getting down to
somewhere near what would be necessary, and then the chairman in-
sisted on cutting that $50,000, and now you are going to save about
$40,000 more. l .
Mr. HALSTEAD. Of course, we would not have spent all the money
if you had appropriated it. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. If we had appropriated $500,000 to begin with you
would have spent more than you will now spend. -
Mr. HALSTEAD. Maybe so. When people have $500,000 which they
can spend it is harder to keep the expenditures down than when they
have only $200,000. -
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SCALES.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for the unexpended balance of the
appropriation for scales for the Customs Service, and also for $50,000
additional. I thought you did not want any more scales now.
Mr. PETERS. We are completing the automatic scales put in at
Philadelphia, and also completing one in New York.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have we altogether, and how much did
they cost apiece? - ſº
Mr. PETERs. We have 65 automatic scales. Their cost, completed
and in operation, was $2,749 each. -
The CHAIRMAN. Are these scales of real value in the service, and is
it worth while spending all this money on them?
Mr. PETERs. They are proving of real value, I should say, in
handling sugar, Mr. Chairman. Of course, one great problem has
been how long they are going to stand up under the work.
The CHAIRMAN. They will not have to stand up much longer if
you are only going to use them on Sugar.
Mr. PETERs. No ; but they can be used under certain conditions on
work other than sugar. Of course, you have to have merchandise
coming in in large quantities, the same class of merchandise con-
signed to the same consignee all in one load, to make the automatic
scales available. - *---
The CHAIRMAN. That is why I ask whether it is the part of wis-
dom to go on with these scales.
Mr. PETERs. I believe it will be sufficient to have the unexpended
balance of the appropriation for last year made available. There
is a balance forward from 1914 of $3,500, and the amount appro-
priated for 1915 was $50,000. There has been expended from July
1 to date $1,301, and I believe the balances from previous appropria-
tions will be sufficient for next year.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the character of those scales? Why can
you not use them for ordinary weighing?
Mr. PETERs. You see, Mr. Mondell, they have to register one par-
ticular weight and you have to have all the same quantity of article
in one load, because it is not of any advantage if you are importing
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a lot of various articles on which the duties may be varying amounts,
and it also must be all to the same consignee. For instance, if you
have sugar all in one load but going to different consignees it is of
no advantage to have the total weight, because you would have to
separate it and find out how much the duty would be on each par-
ticular consignment. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Do I understand that these automatic scales are
very large scales? -
Mr. HALSTEAD. Yes; all we have now are large platform scales
that register automatically the amount of weight by electricity.
Mr. MoRDELL. They would register a small load as well as a large
One º -
Mr. PETERs. Yes; but, don’t you see, you have to get the whole
load. You have to get two, things. You can only register one load,
of course, and it must be all of the same article, and it must be all to
the same consignee. If you want to cart over the scales article by
article a mixed consignment you could do it; but, you see, they do
not want to load up a team and take it off the wharf with only one
article in it if that article amounts to less than a full load. -
The CHAIRMAN. These scales were for use where you had a cargo
practically of one character of merchandise consigned to one con-
cern and you were trucking it out and automatically registering the
weight? :
Mr. PETERs. Yes. t
Mr. HALSTEAD. The average steamer carries merchandise to 800
or 1,000 different people. Now, you can not weigh the merchandise
for two people together for customs purposes, neither can you
weigh merchandise together which is subject to different rates even
when consigned to the same person. Now, there are some ware-
houses where the merchandise comes in all under the same tariff
classification, in large quantities consigned to the same consignee.
In such cases the automatic scales can be used. Just how far they
can be used has not yet been determined.
The CHAIRMAN. These automatic self-registering scales are only
available where you have large and continuous consignments going
to one consignee of the same class of goods?
COMPENSATION IN LIEU OF MOIETIES.
* Mr. PETERs. Yes; so it can weigh the full load to one consignee.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is compensation in lieu of moieties,
$50,000. -
Mr. PETERs. Mr. Chairman, the amount requisitioned against that
up to December 3, 1914, is $6,924.91, and I suggest that the appro-
priation be made available next year, the unexpended balance, which
will amount to $43,075.09.
The CHAIRMAN. We do not like to do that as a rule. It is dif-
ferent in the case of the scales, because that was not an appropria-
tion for an annual service, but for a specific job. How much was
spent last year for these compensations? .
Mr. PETERs. $27,763.74 was expended in 1914. -
The CHAIRMAN. Of course, the amount is always uncertain. Why
would it not do to simply appropriate $25,000?
Mr. PETEns. Then, if we had some particular case come up, it
would be a quite proper item to present for consideration in a de-
ficiency bill, would it not? ... - - - *
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 269
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; in 1912 we had the sugar cases.
Mr. PETERs. You See, Mr. Chairman, it is always possible that we
may have some very considerable demand unexpectedly made upon
this item. ,
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 31, 1914.
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE. -
STATEMENTS OF DR, RUPERT BLUE, SURGEON GENERAL PUBLIC
HEALTH SERVICE; DR. A. H. GLENNAN, DR. W. G. STIMPSON,
DR. L. E. COFER, DR. J. W. KERR, AND DR. W. C. RUCKER,
ASSISTANT SURGEONS GENERAL,
PAY, ALLOWANCES, ETC., COMMISSIONED OFFICERS AND PHARMACISTs.
The CHAIRMAN. “For pay, allowance, and commutation of quar-
ters for commissioned medical officers and pharmacists, the appro-
priation is $679,858, and the estimate is $746,856.
Dr. BLUE. The increase is $66,998.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure that? -
Dr. BLUE. This increase is composed as follows: Automatic in-
crease on account of promotions, longevity, and commutation under
the laws and regulations of the service, $12,238; return of one passed
assistant surgeon from the Philippines, $2,640; two additional phar-
macists not estimated for in the fiscal year 1915, which vacancies
were unfilled, $2,120; for additional assistant surgeons, $50,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How many additional assistant surgeons would
that provide? ,” .
Dr. BLUE. We asked last year for $100,000 for additional assistant
surgeons and you only granted half the amount. Nineteen assistant
surgeons were commissioned during the fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. You asked for $50,000 for additional surgeons last
year. -
Dr. BLUE. One year ago we asked for $100,000 and you granted
just half the amount.
The CHAIRMAN. But for this year you asked for $50,000 for addi-
tional assistant Surgeons.
Dr. BLUE. I have here a statement that will explain all the addi-
tional appropriations we have received. -
In 1914 the estimates for pay of commissioned officers, etc., were
$599,320, and a separate item for additional assistant surgeons was
submitted amounting to $50,000, making a total estimate of $649,320.
Congress reduced the estimate of $599,320 to $547,640 and allowed
the item for additional assistant surgeons—$50,000—making a total
appropriation of $597,640. In 1915 the estimate for pay of com-
missioned officers was $729,858. This included $100,000 for addi-
tional commissioned officers. Congress appropriated $679,858. This
appropriation being only $50,000 less than the estimate, therefore
allowed $50,000 for additional commissioned officers. For 1916 the
estimate for pay of commissioned officers is $746,856. Of this amount
there is included for additional commissioned officers, $50,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Doctor, a certain portion of this increase is what
we might term mandatory or inevitable because of law; that is, the
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increase in compensation by reason of longevity and the like. Let
us see if we can not segregate it. How much of it is due to auto
matic increases? , t -
Dr. BLUE. $12,238, and one other item of $2,120 for two addi-
tional pharmacists. {
' The CHAIRMAN. They are two pharmacists who have been author-
ized, but
Dr. BLUE (interposing). Yes, sir; but whose places are unfilled.
The CIIAIRMAN. You also have the return of one doctor?
Dr. BLUE. That is automatic also—$2,640, making a total of
$16,998.
The CHAIRMAN. And the balance
sistant surgeons which you request?
Dr. BluB. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many additional assistant surgeons would
that mean?
Dr. BLUE. That would mean, if we paid their commutation, 19.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have you all told? You had 42 in
1914. How many have you now %
Dr. BLUE. At the close of the fiscal year, June 30, 1914, the com-
missioned Medical Corps consisted of the Surgeon General, 10 Senior
surgeons, 66 surgeons, 43 passed assistant surgeons, and 47 assistant
surgeons; total, 167.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking us to increase that number?
Dr. BLUE. Twenty-two more.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for 202 for 1916, which would be
an increase of 35.
Dr. BLUE. We have 184 up to date, and the 22 would make a total
Of 206. ’ *
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you ask for 19 additional assistant sur-
geons?
Dr. BLUE. The work of the service is increasing very rapidly, and
I would like to give you the places where these officers are needed.
The CHAIRMAN. We have given you a lot of money to take care
of that increase in work. *
Dr. BLUE. On public health work we need 10 additional assistant
surgeons; interstate Sanitation, 3; marine hospitals, 4; quarantine
stations, 4. There is a doctor urgently needed at Portland, Staple-
ton, New York, Baltimore, and Norfolk, and at the quarantine sta-
tions. Two are needed in the Canal Zone, 1 at New Orleans, and 1
at Cape Charles. Again, sir, I would like to state that the act of
June 24, 1914, authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to detail
for duty on revenue cutters such surgeons and other persons of the
Public Health Service as he may deem necessary, and up to this
time we have detailed 6 officers to revenue cutters.
The CHAIRMAN. What do they do?
Dr. BLUE. They look out for the sanitation of the revenue cutters
and health of their crews. The cutters are now making longer
cruises, remaining out from port longer, in view of the conditions in
Europe, and there is a cutter especially on duty for the fisheries.
The Androscoggin, has been recently sent to the Grand Banks and
she will have to have a surgeon detailed on her permanently.
Mr. MoRDELL. How many men does she carry, officers and crew .
$50,000—is for additional as-
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Dr. STIMPson. The number of the crew is 72. She is to furnish
relief to fishermen on the Grand Banks. That is by a special author-
ization of Congress, the act of June 24, 1914, and this vessel has
been fitted out by the Revenue Cutter Service and our service to
furnish relief to fishermen on those banks. This has been done
for a number of years by a French vessel partly, but for a long time
the fishermen have been asking the Government to furnish them
relief, and this vessel goes out and stays a month and then comes in
and puts the sick ashore and then goes out again. She is completely
equipped, has a hospital and operating room and dispensary and
everything for that purpose. .*
Mr. MoR DELL. They care for the men on the fishing fleet?
Dr. STIMIPsos. They care for the men on any American vessel, but
especially for the men on the fishing fleet. They have an itinerary,
so that they know that the Androscoggin will be at a certain point
at a certain time, and the fishing fleet can bring any sick or injured
people to that place at that time. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You mentioned the places you wanted these
additional surgeons. What are those places? º
Dr. BLUE. On the public health work, 10.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by “public health work”?
Dr. BLUE. Work in the field in connection with public health
matters—investigation of public health matters. I will ask Dr.
Kerr to say a word on that.
The CHAIRMAN. We give you special appropriations for that work,
do we not?
Dr. KERR. That expression is used just to contrast this portion of
the service with the quarantine service and the Marine Hospital
Service. It includes the work in connection with the enforcement
of the interstate quarantine laws and regulations, and investigations
of disease. The money appropriated for the field investigations of
the diseases of man is spent, some of it for salaries, but it does not
include to any extent the pay of medical officers. As explained to
the committee, it was always the intent to depend on the regular
medical officers wherever possible, and the employment of medical
officers out of that general fund was in the nature of temporary em-
ployment. Of course at the time the request was made for that
amount it was contemplated to pay the salaries of sanitary engineers,
of whom we had none, Sanitary chemists, sanitary bacteriologists,
and that character of Workers. The ten persons that we have had
in mind in making this request are needed in the following lines of
work at the present time: Two on pellagra, two on malaria and
rural sanitation studies combined; two on industrial hygiene; two
on the trachoma work; one on State organization investigations;
and one on the pollution of coastal Waters. Last year an estimate
was presented for 14 officers for public health work, and of the
number that have been appointed this year out of the money that
was allowed last year, 4 have been assigned to public health work,
leaving 10 who have not been provided for. #
The CILAIRMAN. Now, for instance, in the investigation of indus-
trial hygiene the Department of Labor has taken up that work and
is going into it extensively. There are several services duplicating
that work.
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Dr. KERR. So far as I know, the Department of Labor is not en-
gaged in the purely studies of industrial hygiene and vocational
disease, but we have been engaged in that work for some time and in
the last year have enlarged those studies and we feel that that work
is purely a sanitary work that is connected with general sanitary
work and should be performed by the Public Health Service.
The CHAIRMAN. We argued that in the House, but the House re-
fused to take it away from the Department of Labor,
Dr. KERR. That was a bill providing for a bureau of labor safety.
It was amended in the House and it is now in committee, as I under-
stand, of the Senate, and representations have been made by the
chairman of the Public Health and National Quarantine Committee
of the Senate that he proposes to add amendments which were not
added in the House.
The CHAIRMAN. This work ought to be confined to one place or the
other.
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir. That bill has not been passed, and the bill
contemplated not only labor Safety, but industrial hygiene studies.
The two are not necessarily associated. The one is largely mechan-
ical and the other at once goes into the broad subject of general sani-
tation. We now have several men in the field making studies of this
particular subject of the hygiene of industries and we must take into
account the influence of environment outside of the shop and to get
that information and in order to accomplish our end we must work
with the State and local authorities with whom we are cordially iden-
tified not only by law but by actual understanding. It seems to me
that it is very important that the public-health work should not be
further dissipated or divided among departments,
The CHAIRMAN. I agree with you, and I think it all ought to be
in one place. - -
Dr. IGERR. We have already the organization to carry on this work
and practically the only thing we need is additional field officers.
We have the bureau organization.
The CHAIRMAN. How many additional officers altogether do you
think you need? You say you want these 19 additional officers
authorized now %
Dr. BLUE. The work is developing very rapidly. We could use
many more than we are asking for.
The CHAIRMAN. I know that. Every department of the Govern-
ment could use twice as much money as we give them.
Dr. BLUE. We simply did not want to ask for all we needed at
this time.
The CHAIRMAN. You have taken six men off of work they had been
doing and have put them on revenue cutters. Outside of the An-
droscoggin, the revenue cutters do not make very long trips.
Dr. BLUE. There are five or six cutters that go to Alaska every year,
a cruise of about six months. I would like to mention the sad occur-
rence of the loss of Asst. Surg. Jenkins last summer while serving on
one of these cutters.
The CHAIRMAN. Outside of that Alaskan vessel and the Androscog-
gān, which you say is going to be assigned to the fishing fleet. these
other vessels are not out of port any length of time?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 273
Dr. KERR. Those vessels leave the Pacific coast in April or May,
and remain out the entire summer and until October and November.
They are the last ships practically down from Alaska.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of them are there?
Dr. KERR. There are at least five that go up every year.
The CHAIRMAN. Five cutters?
Dr. KERR. Five cutters. One of them goes as far as Point Barrow
in the Arctic Ocean. Each one of those vessels carries a medical
officer, and the officer not only takes care of the health and sanitation
of the crew, but they give relief to the Indians from port to port, as
they stop on the way up, and the men sometimes go ashore and
actually establish an operating room and perform necessary major
operations.
The CHAIRMAN. When did they start to do that?
Dr. KERR. From time to time for the last two or three years they
have been doing that. For the last 10 or 15 years whenever a cutter
was making a special cruise an officer has been assigned to her, but
it has become the regular practice within the last two or three years
or a trifle longer.
Dr. STIMPson. I was up there five years ago, and there was an
officer on each cutter at that time.
The CHAIRMAN. Are we to understand that the only cutter you
assign a surgeon to is the Androscoggin?
Dr. KERR. And one in Porto Rican waters and one in Honolulu.
Whenever a cutter goes on a voyage around the world or to the
Philippines an officer must be placed on board. The McCullough,
which served as the supply or express ship for Admiral Dewey's
fleet, carried an officer of the service.
The CHAIRMAN. If you were doing that, you did not need the
authority. º
Dr. KERR. Those officers must be taken from other places. .
The CHAIRMAN. If you already had the authority, you did not
need the authority contained in the act which you produced.
Dr. KERR. This act would probably appear to be mandatory that
officers should go on certain of these cutters.
The CHAIRMAN. No; it just says the Secretary of the Treasury is
authorized to do it. There must have been some question which
arose as to his authority.
Dr. BLUE. It has been hard to spare the officers to do this work.
The CHAIRMAN. It would not be any easier if that language should
be included.
PAY OF ACTING ASSISTANT STURGEONS.
The next item is “ For pay of acting assistant surgeons (noncom-
missioned medical officers),” and your estimate is the same as the
current appropriation, $200,000. Are these men taken over from the
quarantine service.
Dr. GLENNAN. They are the same men, all of them.
The CHAIRMAN. They are retained?
Dr. GLENNAN. Yes, sir; carried along.
The CHAIRMAN. The expenditures run about the same every year?
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Dr. BLUE. About the same; yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Who are the men that you designate as acting
assistant surgeons?
Dr. BLUE. The acting assistant surgeons supplement the work of
the regular officers in the service. The majority of them are em-
ployed to carry on the work at small stations and do not devote their
entire time to the work. Their compensation varies from $100 a
year to $2,400 a year. They are paid in accordance with the im-
portance and amount of work done.
Mr. MoRDELL. You say they are paid how much?
Dr. BLUE. From $100 to $2,400 a year.
Mr. MoRDELL. There seems to be one at $3,000?
Dr. BLUE. We have an expert employed at the leprosy investiga-
tion station at Molokai, Honolulu, who receives $3,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is he there permanently'
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. If you secured additional surgeons, as you desire,
would you take them from among the acting assistant surgeons?
Dr. BLUE. We would take them from the acting assistant surgeons
if they could comply with the laws and regulations governing en-
trance into the corps. They must be between the ages of 23 and 32
and must pass a successful examination before a board of commis-
sioned medical officers.
Mr. MONDELL. Are the acting assistant surgeons paid under this
item, Some of them at least, men who are anticipating commissions
and who are in the service with the expectation of later being com-
missioned? -
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. I believe there may be a few young officers
who anticipate taking the examination. p
Mr. MoRDELL. How do you employ these people?
Dr. BLUE. From the civil-service list. We ask for a list of eligibles
whenever there is a vacancy.
Mr. MoRDELL. A list of eligibles as acting assistant surgeons?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. º
Mr. MoRDELL. It is altogether a different list than that from which
you select your assistant surgeons?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. This list is not to any considerable extent a training
list Ž *
Dr. BLUE. No, sir. {
Mr. MoRDELL. It is not made up, to any considerable extent, of
men who are looking forward to appointment as assistant surgeons?
Dr. BLUE. It is not.
PAY OF ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For pay of all other employees
(attendants, etc.),” and the appropriation is $502,606, and your esti-
mate is the same as the appropriation. Did you have any unex-
pended balance in 1914? §
Dr. BLUE. We had a balance of $3,571.88.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you going to use all the money you have this
year?
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Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; we need every cent of it.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this to pay for the organization outside of the
commissioned and noncommissioned officers? .
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. This includes the pay of the professors of the
Hygienic Laboratory, technical assistants, all attendants at marine
hospitals, quarantine and immigration stations, the attendants at
the Fort Stanton Sanatorium for consumptives, the leprosy station
in Hawaii, and the pilots, engineers, and crews of quarantine vessels.
The total number of employees paid out of this fund is 1,134.
FREIGHT, TRANSPORTATION, AND TRAVELING EXPENSEs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For freight, transportation,
and traveling expenses,” etc., and the appropriation is $30,000, and
your estimate is $30,000?
Dr. BLUE. We had a balance of $113.39. This amount will be suf-
ficient for the fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice from the detailed statement that the ex-
penditures average about the same in the various items each year
under this head?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; about the same.
The CHAIRMAN. Have any of your officers attended meetings of
associations for the promotion of public health ?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; we have had officers attend several meetings.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you confine them to any particular charac-
ter—National or State?
Dr. GLENNAN. State and National.
The CHAIRMAN. Those are the only kinds?
Dr. GLENNAN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many did they attend?
Dr. GLENNAN. I suppose maybe 12 or 14. This is a printed list
which gives a detailed statement of all travel expenditures in House
Document No. 1245, in the letter of the Secretary of the Treasury,
dated December 7, 1914. 3. - 4\ -
Dr. BLUE. Requests for details have increased, but the expendi-
tures have not increased, for the reason that if possible we select
the man stationed at the place where the meeting is held.
The CHAIRMAN. That is, if a man is on duty at a certain place
where there is a meeting, you detail him to attend the meeting?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. - -
FUEL, LIGHT, AND WATER.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For fuel, light, and water,”
and your appropriation is $75,000, and your estimate is $75,000?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; the same amount appropriated for 1915. We
had an unexpended balance of $848.65. For several years the ap-
propriation was $72,000. Then it was reduced to $70,000, but in
1914 a deficiency appropriation of $4,000 was allowed. Seventy-five
thousand dollars will be sufficient for our needs unless extraordinary
conditions as regards weather prevail.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you buy your fuel on the British thermal unit?
Dr. STIMPSON. I think not. I do not believe it is bought on any
particular unit. It is all bought under contract.
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The CHAIRMAN. Does the Bureau of Mines make any test?
Dr. STIMPson. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Or prepare any specifications?
Dr. STIMPSON. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. It is claimed that you can save a very considerable
sum if you get in touch with the Bureau of Mines in these matters.
Dr. BLUE. We buy at so many different places that it would be
quite expensive to have the tests made. e
Mr. MoRDELL. You have some officer who does the purchasing?
Dr. BLUE. Our contracts are made for supplies at each station.
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not use any very great quantity of coal?
Dr. BLUE. No, sir; not very much.
Dr. STIMPSON. We do not use much at any station.
Mr. MoRDELL. The quantities are comparatively small and your
coal purchases are more in the nature of retail purchases?
Dr. STIMPSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. It would not be possible, of course, for you to go
into the matter of the character of the coal as thoroughly as the
Government bureaus that buy in very large quantities?
Dr. KERR. The Government supply committee makes contracts for
supplies in Washington for a great many items and, among others,
coal, and, of course, we take advantage of those contracts for the
Hygienic Laboratory, the only station we have here in Washington.
That coal is tested, as I understand, by the Bureau of Mines from
time to time.
Mr. MoRDELL. And probably purchased in accordance with the
tests they establish? -
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir; I think so.
FURNITURE AND REPAIRS TO SAME.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For furniture and repairs to
same, $8,000.” The same as your current appropriation?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. We had an unexpended balance of $4.44. This
is the same amount appropriated for the present current fiscal year,
and will be sufficient. - -
PURVEYING DEPOT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item, “For purveying depot, purchase of
medical, surgical, and hospital supplies, $45,000," the same as your
current appropriation?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. $
The CHAIRMAN. This depot is in one of the buildings on Pennsyl-
vania Avenue on a site acquired by the Government?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. s -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the value of the stock which you carry?
Dr. STIMPSON. We carry medicines.
The CHAIRMAN. I know; but what is the value of the stock?
Dr. STIMPSON. About $20,000. It depends on the time of the year.
We usually take in stock on the 1st of July and the 1st of January,
and as requisitions come from different stations we fill them during
the succeeding six months. -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 277.
MAINTAINING HYGIENIC LA.BORATORY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For maintaining the Hygienic
Laboratory,” and the estimate is $20,000, the same as the current
appropriation?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; the same amount. There was a balance in
that appropriation of $187.82.
MAINTENANCE OF MARINE HOSPITALs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For maintenance of marine
hospitals, including subsistence, and all other necessary miscella-
neous expenses which are not included under special heads,” and the
estimate is $256,000, the same as the current appropriation?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; the same as the current appropriation. For
1914 there was a balance of $5,002.11.
The CHAIRMAN. How many hospitals have you?
Dr. BLUE. Twenty-three, including the sanatorium for consump-
tives in New Mexico.
The CHAIRMAN. How many patients did you take care of?
Dr. BLUE. The number of seamen treated in the marine hospitals
during the last fiscal year was 53,226, which was 2,622 more than
during the preceding fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that persons or days?
Dr. BLUE. Persons.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the cost per capita ?
Dr. STIMPSON. $2.06. That includes the salaries of the officers and
everything.
The CHAIRMAN. All overhead?
Dr. STIMPSON. Yes, sir; everything. If you take out the officers’
salaries it would be $1.55.
The CHAIRMAN. Are all of the hospitals filled?
Dr. STIMPSON. No, sir; they are not filled.
The CHAIRMAN. Which hospitals are you going to close?
Dr. BLUE. We do not contemplate closing any of them.
The CHAIRMAN. You thought of closing some of them a couple of
years ago when you said that you would look them over and give us
a report?
Dr. BLUE. Those hospitals, as some member of the committee men-
tioned two years ago, we intend to make public-health stations, and
have already done so in the case of some of them. -
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by public-health stations?
Dr. BILUE. For the study of diseases of man and for laboratory
work.
The CHAIRMAN. Which ones are those?
Dr. BLUE. Pittsburgh, Louisville, Cincinnati, and New Orleans.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you utilizing them now for the general public-
health work?
Dr. KERR. We have public-health work going on at Wilmington,
N. C.; Savannah, Ga.; Mobile, Ala.; New Orleans, La.; Louisville,
Ky. ; Cincinnati, Ohio; Pittsburgh, Pa.; and St. Louis, Mo., and we
have requests from the Indian medical service to do laboratory work
at our several stations, which will not involve any great amount of
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work, but it is mentioned as an indication of the additional use that
these stations can be put to as public-health stations.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you completely occupy the hospitals now that
were conspicuous because of their emptiness?
Dr. BLUE. You mean as regards their bed capacity?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Dr. BLUE. No, sir; we have not the hospitals filled with patients
anywhere. Of course, the number of patients varies with the season.
In the winter, on account of the close of navigation there will be more
patients than in Summer, and on the Lakes the same.
The CHAIRMAN. When they can not work they go to the hospitals?
Dr. BLUE. We expect the clientele to increase with the opening
of business on the Ohio River. I understand they are building bulk-
heads, or dams, in order to maintain the head of Water all the year
round. That would increase naturally the number of patients treated
at Pittsburgh, Evansville, and Louisville. -
Dr. GLENNAN. There have been 500 more vessels registered.
MEDICAL ExAMINATIONS, CARE OF SEAMEN, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For medical examinations, care
of seamen, care and treatment of all other persons entitled to relief,
and miscellaneous expenses other than marine hospitals, which are
not included under special heads,” and your appropriation is $126,000,
and you are asking for $135,000?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. This is an increase of $9,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Why?
Dr. BLUE. A part of the $9,000 additional is to establish three new
stations of the third class, namely, at Everett, Wash.; Kingston,
N. Y.; and Palatka, Fla.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of stations are they to be?
Dr. BLUE. Stations of the third class.
The CHAIRMAN. What is a station of the third class?
Dr. BLUE. A station at which an acting assistant Surgeon is sta-
tioned and where a contract has been let to a local hospital, with au-
thority granted to the acting assistant Surgeon to treat Seamen, but
to send all cases of sickness which would last longer than 20 days to
the nearest marine hospital.
The CHAIRMAN. Why send them to Kingston ? &
Dr. BLUE. We would not send them to Kingston. We would es-
tablish a station there and pick up the Seamen and send them to
New York.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any local traffic on the river?
Dr. STIMPSON. There are 75 tugboats and about 1,500 men.
The CHAIRMAN. The boats touching at Kingston either run to New
York or to Albany, and all the tugboats are towing to New York?
Dr. STIMPSON. We have had numerous requests for several years
for the establishment of a third-class station at that port.
The CHAIRMAN. How much of this amount is paid to hospitals for
the care of seamen? &
Dr. STIMPson. How much of this appropriation?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
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Dr. STIMPson. The salaries of the officers are not paid out of this
fund. V g
The CHAIRMAN. How much is actually paid to the hospitals for the
care of the seamen?
Dr. STIMPson. Whenever we have an office for the physician
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). You have it combined—examina-
tion and care of seamen; how much do you pay to the hospitals
alone?
Dr. STIMPSON. About two-thirds of the amount.
The CHAIRMAN. You can furnish that information?
Dr. STIMPson. Yes, sir.
STATEMENT REGARDING EXPENDITURE OF APPROPRIATION FOR MEDICAL EXAMINATION,
CARE OF SEAMEN, ETC., FISCAL YEAR, 1914.
The appropriation for medical examination, care of Seamen, etc., fiscal year
1914, in amount of $126,000, is accounted for as follows:
Paid out for the care of sick Seamen in contract hospitals during
the year----------------------------------------------------- $105, 754. S4
Paid out for medical examinations, medicines furnished Seamen,
burial Of deceased Seamen, Office rent, telephone rent, Station-
ery, etc -------------------------------- - - - 14, 945. 76
Balance remaining at the end of the year------------------------ 5, 299. 40
Total - . * *m a -s ºr ºm * *-* *-* * * *-* --> - º ºm- ºr * * * * *-* * * * * *-* 126, 000. 00
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you pay to the hospitals?
Dr. STIMPSON. Different prices; from $1 to $3. $3 is paid only in
Alaska. At Nome, Alaska, we have to pay $3. At most of the
stations we pay $1, $1.25, and $1.50. The prices have increased a
great deal this year in numerous places, so if we have the same num-
ber of patients as last year we will have to spend $6,589 more.
The CHAIRMAN. How many patients are cared for under this ap-
propriation? -
Dr. STIMPson. Twenty-two thousand and six altogether.
The CHAIRMAN. About how many days?
Dr. STIMPson. Hospital days, 88,343, not including marine hos-
pitals, only contracts.
The CHAIRMAN. You did not say how many patients were cared
for in the marine hospitals.
Dr. STIMPson. Nine thousand eight hundred and fifteen patients
were treated in the marine hospitals alone; the number of days relief
furnished was 322,779.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you send people to the hospitals for stated
periods?
Dr. STIMPson. For not over 20 days, if they are able to travel. If
they require more than that they are transferred to the marine
hospitals. *
The CHAIRMAN. That would show that they averaged about four
days each'
Dr. STIMPson. It varies a good deal. A man with typhoid fever
could not be transferred.
The CHAIRMAN. Twenty-two thousand patients and 88,000 days
would make the average about 4 days?
Dr. STIMPSON. Yes, sir; about.
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JOURNALS AND SCIENTIFIC BOOIKS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For journals and scientific
books (subscriptions for journals may be paid for in advance),” and
your appropriation is $500, and you are asked for $500?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. This appropriation is necessary in order to
provide journals and scientific books for the bureau, not for the
Sel"WICe.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you spend $500 a year?
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. We ought to have $1,000. We asked for
$1,000 last year, but it was not granted.
QUARANTINE SERVICE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Quarantine service.” How
many officers have you detailed to immigration work?
Dr. CoFER. We now have 87 medical officers, all told, assigned to
the work exclusively. In addition to that there are a number of
other medical officers doing marine hospital and quarantine work
at stations where the immigration work does not justify the detail
of an officer for this purpose exclusively. - -
The CHAIRMAN. The immigration is falling off to such an extent
that you are going to have a number of officers released? .
Dr. CoFER. The immigration has fallen off, and at several ports
officers have been relieved and put on other work. This falling off is
confined practically to four ports—Boston, New York, Philadelphia,
and Baltimore.
The CHAIRMAN. That is where you had the bulk of the officers?
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir. The great bulk of them are at New York.
The difference in the falling off is not as great at any other station
as at New York. I have the figures, if you would like to see them.
Last year we examined at Boston, for example, 80,322 people. Figur-
ing up to the end of this month what we have done at Boston and at
the same rate, we will examine 16,324 for the year. You see the dif-
ference in the long run between examining 16,000 and 80,000 is not
as great as it appears, and it takes almost the same complement for
that work. In New York I will admit that the falling off has been
something unparalleled. At the present rate we can not expect Over
32,000 to arrive at New York this year. Of course, the arrivals may
increase from now on. We are only figuring on what has occurred
since July. Last year it was 1,009,854. The complement of officers
has been almost cut in two; in fact, even more than that.
Dr. BLUE. Advantage has been taken of the diminution in immi-
grants at Ellis Island to make a thorough physical and mental exam-
ination of arriving aliens. On certain days when Small shiploads
arrive the aliens are all sent to the examination room and thorouglhy
overhauled. They are given what you might call an intensive
examination.
The CHAIRMAN. As a result of this intensive examination has there
been any larger number of aliens admitted?
Dr. BLUE. So far it has been very encouraging. There has been
no definite report made yet as to the increase, but it is thought that
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the number of certificates might be increased to 5 per cent of the
whole number examined.
I º: Chamxas. How many officers did you have on duty at Ellis
SI3.Il CI - -
Dr. CoFER. Twenty-five medical officers. The officers relieved there
have been detailed to public health work.
Dr. BLUE. To the eradication of the plague in New Orleans, for
instance.
Dr. COFER. There is another point—the question of when the war
is going to end and when this immigration business is going to be
resumed. I think we will have an enormous amount of work ex-
amining arrivals put upon us for some time after the war is ended.
At the present time at Ellis Island we have about the largest number
of detained persons in the hospital that we have had for a long
time—considerably over 200—on account of the fact that they can not
be deported. I only mention that to show that although our com-
plement of officers there is a good deal smaller than it was, those
there have all they can do on account of these conditions. I bring
these points up to show the exigencies. -
The CHAIRMAN. You are reimbursed for them by the steamship
companies? - -
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir; they pay for all of that.
The CHAIRMAN. They pay only for the subsistence, or do you
include an overhead charge to take care of the officers?
Dr. CoFER. They pay a flat per diem rate of $1.50. There is no
doubt but what the Government makes money on it. They do not
charge them for just what they get; they charge a regular flat rate.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not see how the Government can make money
when the steamship lines pay $1.50 and it costs $2.06 to take care of
the patients in the hospitals. -
Dr. CofER. It is different in the immigration business. The Gov-
ernment makes a large amount of money on examining immigrants.
In the report of the Commissioner General of Immigration for last
year he shows a balance from the head tax of nearly $10,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. There is no balance.
Dr. CoEER. I know; but just for the sake of argument, we are
making money rather than losing it on examining immigrants.
Dr. Glennan was figuring the other day that so far as we are con-
cerned we only spent about 12.6 cents per alien examined last year.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not prove that any of these services are
revenue producers? -
Dr. CofER. No; I do not say that, but I think the Immigration
Service charges the steamship lines for a great deal more than the
subsistence costs.
The CHAIRMAN. Then we have a lot of money invested there?
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir; that is an enormous plant. I believe that
40 cents a day is the outside actual cost.
The CHAIRMAN. For subsistence?
Dr. CoEER. Yes, sir; and the rest can be treated as overhead.
The CHAIRMAN. For this item “Quarantine Service’ the appro-
priation is $155,000 and you are asking $160,000?
Dr. CoEER. Yes, sir. .”
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The CHAIRMAN. Why do you ask for an increase?
Dr. CoFER. Mr. Chairman, that is on account of two conditions.
The phraseology of the item is just the same as it was last year, and
the only difference is the extra $5,000, which is asked for on account
of the increased work incident to the opening of the floating quar-
antine detention plant at Providence, and also the prospective com-
plete Opening of the station at Galveston. We have not been able
to Open that station fully so far on account of the bulkhead not
being completed, but we have had the station open since the refugees
came back from Mexico. -
The CHAIRMAN. Out of this appropriation you maintain the
leprosy hospital?
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir. I have here a table showing how we ex-
pended this appropriation last year and what we propose to do with
it in the future.
The CHAIRMAN. You maintain vessels out of this appropriation?
Dr. CoEER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many vessels?
Dr. CoFER. We have two barges, six hulks .*
The CHAIRMAN. What? -
Dr. CoFER. Hulks—an old warship like the Mewark, or the James-
town—5 steam tugs, 6 steam launches, 25 gasoline launches, and 56
rowboats, sailboats, etc., of various sizes. These vessels have to be
not only scraped and painted, so far as the hulls go, every year, but
the machinery has to be kept up, broken parts replaced, and tools and
all of that sort of thing replaced.
The CHAIRMAN. What was your unexpended balance in 1914?
Dr. CoFER. $7,367.35.
The CHAIRMAN. What did you do with the balance of this money
in addition to that you have accounted for?
Dr. CoFER. We expended $149,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You had $180,000 and you have only accounted
for $149,000.
Dr. CoFER. You are referring to the $25,000 for the Wewark &
The CHAIRMAN. The Providence boat?
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You spent it all on that boat?
Dr. CoFER. Here is a statement as to that.
The CHAIRMAN. You had $155,000? t
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir; in the regular quarantine-Service appropria-
tion.
The CHAIRMAN. And you had $7,367.35 unexpended out of the
$155,000?
Dr. CofER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you received $25,000 to fit up the Newark
to be used as a station at Providence? - sº
Dr. CoFER. Yes, sir; a floating station.
The CHAIRMAN. And this is a statement of how that money Was
expended ? - e
Dr. Corºr. Yes, sir. We have a balance of a little over $2,000.
We have considerably more to spend on it.
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(The statement submitted by Dr. Cofer follows:)
Appropriation: Providence (R. I.) Quarantihe Station, 1914–15.
Preparing hulk Newark, and transfer from Norfolk :
Norfolk Navy Yard, outfitting, etc., estimated_____ $10,000.00
Boiler and stack-------------------------------- 404. 70
Coal for transfer-------------------------------- 609. 00
Towing ----- * * *-*. * * 159. 60
Outfit for complement en route------------------- 21S. 37
Lighter to aid in anchoring----------------------- 35. OO
$11,426.67
Launch ------------------------------------------------*--------- 2,000. 00
Roofing, etc.------------------------------------------------------ 3, 593.90
Heating System * * * * * * * *m arºs º- * * * * * * * *. ___ 2, 250.00
Travel, incident to inspection, etc., estimated.--____ –– 1, 000. 00
Outfiting and miscellaneous: -
Blankets----------------------------------------- $315.00
Tools -------------------------------------------- 153. S6
Mattresses, etc --- - - 221. 20
Household articles–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 301.46
Paints ------------------------------------------- 223.95
Drayage --------------------- *** - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - = 68. Tº
Lumber – = ** = = = <= *-* = = * * *= <= ** *- = = = = = -- ~ * = a- - -, --- a-- 332. 53
Miscellaneous and freight------------------------ 612. 68
—— 2, 229.43
Approximate balance-------------------------------------------- 2, 500. 00.
Almount of appropriation * * *-* = * * * * * * * * * * *-* - - - - - - - - - - sm sºme am, sºm. 25, 000. 00
PREVENTION OF EPIDEMICS-BUBONIC PLAGUE, NEW ORLEANs, CALIFORNIA,
- AND SEATTLE, WASH.
The CHAIRMAN. For the prevention of epidemics the current ap-
propriation is $200,000 and you now want $500,000. We gave you a
deficiency of $220,000. q
Dr. BLUE. The estimate for 1916 is $500,000 and the appropria-
tion for 1915 is $300,000, so the increase is $200,000. The deficiency
was for 1915. We asked for a deficiency of $220,000 for this year.
The CHAIRMAN. And we gave you that. * -
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And you want $500,000 for next year?
Dr. RUCKER. This sum is $20,000 less than was given us for carry-
ing on this work in 1915.
The CHAIRMAN. No, sir; it is $80,000 more.
Dr. RUCKER. You gave us more. There was a balance of $100,-
449.52, there was an appropriation of $200,000, and there was a
deficiency appropriation of $220,000, making a total of $520,499.52.
The CHAIRMAN. That was $100,000 that escaped us.
Mr. MoRDELL. Was that for the current year?
Dr. RUCKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. We reformed this thing a couple of years ago,
and you are trying to work it up on us again. What do you pro-
pose to do with this sum ? -
Dr. RUCKER. It will be necessary for us to continue the work at
New Orleans until plague has been eradicated there.
The CHAIRMAN. You will never stop that unless we do.
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Dr. RUCKER. Yes, sir; I think we will.
The CHAIRMAN. When } g
Dr. RUCKER. I can not tell you, sir, at the rate things are going
now. In the heart of the city the plague has been, so far as we know,
practically eradicated. We have discovered in the last few days the
cause of the focus of infection which existed in New Orleans, but,
unfortunately, we have found a chronic form of plague among rats
outside of the parish of Orleans. One was found in Weswego, in
the parish of Jefferson, and one was found in St. Bernard Parish,
not far from Chalmette. The original area of infection has, there-
fore, been enlarged, and at the present time consists of about 41
square miles. It is estimated that about $220,000 will be necessary
for New Orleans for the first six months of the next fiscal year and
that $90,000 will be necessary for the second six months. That is
for New Orleans only. In addition, it will be necessary to con-
tinue the antiplague surveillance in California. That work has
been very largely taken over by the State of California, the expense
at the present time being borne by the service varying between $2,665
per month and $3,000 per month. The allotment to California
would therefore be;36,000. Bubonic plague still continues in Seattle,
Wash., plague rats being found there from time to time. There has
been an increase in the cooperation on the part of the Seattle au-
thorities, and it will be necessary for the service to continue this
work in order to get them to finish up their part of the work.
The CHAIRMAN. How much per month did you say the bubonic
plague work in California and on the Pacific coast costs?
Dr. RUCKER. It is costing from $2,665 per month to $3,000 per
month. -
The CHAIRMAN. That will be about $36,000 a year.
Dr. RUCKER. Yes, sir; $36,000 for the year.
The CHAIRMAN. What else have you?
Dr. RUCKER. The work at Seattle still continues, and it is esti-
mated that for the next fiscal year it will be necessary to spend
$12,000 there, or $1,000 per month. The city of Seattle has begun
its cooperative work, and it will be necessary for the Government
to give them assistance in order to get the work done properly. It
will also be necessary to do some postepidemic work in Porto Rico
to make certain that the disease has been entirely stamped out there—
that is, bubonic plague—and it is estimated that $200 per month will
be necessary there, making a total of $2,400 for the year. In foreign
ports it will be necessary, it is estimated, to expend $15,600, or $1,300
per month.
The CHAIRMAN. What are you spending now Ż
Dr. RUCKER. We are spending now at the rate of $1,300 per month.
We are spending that in China, Italy, Japan, and Cuba, and there
are miscellaneous expenditures of $50 per month. For travel, vac-
cines, and other materials which are purchased out of this fund, it
is estimated we will require about $1,000 per month, or $12,000 for
the year. In the trachoma work, which is being carried on in the
Appalachian Mountains, the cost is now $2,000 per month, and it is
estimated that it will be necessary for it to continue at the same rate
during the coming year, or at the rate of $24,000 a year. That ac-
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counts for the grand total of $412,000, and the $88,000 balance is to
be held in reserve for new epidemic work which may arise. At the
present time cholera is spreading rapidly in continental Europe. It
has already appeared in Vienna, and great fear is being expressed
by British medical journals and newspapers that the disease may
gain admission to that country. If such a thing happens, and it is
not at all improbable that it will, we may look for the introduction
of chronic cholera carriers in this country, and we will have to do
Some pretty active work to keep cholera out of this country next
year. It might also be mentioned that plague at the present time
is spreading in the Mediteranean littoral. It has appeared in
Cartana, Sicily, and is also widely spread throughout the Greek
Archipelago. It will be necessary to hold $88,000 in reserve for
those things.
FIELD INVESTIGATIONS-DISEASES OF MAN, SANITATION, SEWAGE, POLLU-
- TION OF WATERS. *
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Field investigations: For In-
vestigations of diseases of man and conditions influencing the propa-
gation and spread thereof, including Sanitation and sewage, and the
pollution of navigable streams and lakes of the United States, in-
cluding personal services, $250,000.” The current appropriation is
$200,000.
Dr. BLUE. This increase is needed in order to meet the demands
that are constantly being made upon us.
The CHAIRMAN. If you were to meet all of these demands we
would not be able to supply the means to carry on the work.
Dr. BLUE. This demand is insistent for expert help in public
health matters, and it is made by governors, mayors, and health
bodies. t -
The CHAIRMAN. You do not pay your surgeons and assistant Sur-
geons out of this, do you?
Dr. BLUE. No, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. If you have not got the men, how can you supply
them? 2.
Dr. BLUE. We pay out of that the salaries of Some acting assistant
surgeons, who work for short periods on certain problems.
The CHAIRMAN. What are you doing now under this appropria-
tion? .
Dr. IGERR. Last year, when this money was appropriated, We
endeavored to carry out the line of investigation that was explained
to the committee. That included investigations of the Ohio River
and the Potomac River, and investigations of the coastal Waters of
Chesapeake Bay and vicinity. We paid special attention to pel-
lagra, malaria, trachoma, diphtheria, typhoid fever, and the m'gla-
tion of tuberculous persons in interstate traffic. Special examina-
tions and studies were made of localities, of the Sanitary condition of
schools, laboratory studies were made of tuberculosis, studies were
made of industrial hygiene and rural hygiene, and I might menition
also investigations of sewage disposal and Waste disposal. The work
that we carried on this last year has been most promising.
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[See p. 290.]
One line of investigation alone has, we think, been of an epoch-
making character, and that is in connection with pellagra. As a
result of our studies and work in connection with pellagra that have
been going on now for several years we have found that the disease
is not an infectious disease and that it is probably due to an unbal-
anced diet. We have tentatively reached that conclusion, and we
have some highly significant data to prove it, but that needs to be
added to and it needs to be tried out by States and institutions hav-
ing the care of pellagra patients. -
The ('i IAIRMAN. You have a special appropriation for that ?
Dr. KERR. We are maintaining a hospital at Spartanburg, S. C.,
and, in addition, we continued last year and this year our epidemo-
logical studies of pellagra. As we explained to the committee last
year, our studies of pellagra as carried on have included laboratory
studies at Savannah, Ga., laboratory studies at the hygienic labora-
tory, field studies of institutional pellagra at Milledgeville, Ga., and
at other insane asylums and at certain orphanages throughout the
country. We first demonstrated that we could not reproduce the
disease in the lower animals. We then made a special study of the
mental manifestations of pellagra, of the condition of the brain and
of the cerebrospinal fluid as compared with conditions in other
mental infections of a toxic origin. Then we undertook to deter-
mine by epidemological studies why pellagra developed in certain
institutions and not in others. We found that in the insane asylum
at Milledgeville, Ga., 7.65 per cent of the patients who have been in
that institution over one year developed pellagra in the institution.
It was discovered that no case ever developed among the employees.
This was significant. Then we followed these studies further and
found that the disease appeared in certain classes of insane patients
in those institutions; for instance, dementia praecox patients, who
are very indifferent and suffer from melancholia. In a word, it was
found that the only essential difference in the environment of the
individuals was in the matter of diet. In one orphanage we found
that 32 per cent of 211 children had pellagra, and in another we
found that 139 out of 226 children had pellagra. The grouping of
the cases in these instances was striking, and to our own minds every-
thing pointed conclusively to diet as the cause. For instance, in-
fants under a certain age who were allowed milk developed no pel-
lagra, and those above 12 years of age developed practically no
pellagra, the enormous prevalence of pellagra occurring among
children between 6 and 12 years of age. *
Mr. MoWDELL. Did that develop in the institution?
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir; and our investigations show that it is a disease
that develops in institutions. We attacked it from that standpoint
after we had made studies of about 1,450 patients in private life.
Mr. MoRDELL. What did you learn about the diet in those cases?
Dr. KERR. We learned that essentially three different diets were
fed to those children, and we grouped them accordingly, and found
that it was in the middle group of children, who had the middle diet.
that most of the cases of the disease developed. The work that we
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propose to do this year and the work we are now doing is to treat
those cases and to take the necessary measures to see whether we can
prevent the disease from developing. *
Mr. MoRDELL. Have you reached a conclusion as to what is lacking
in the diet.” * -
Dr. KERR. No, sir. That will be a very difficult question to de-
termine. The great practical question to be determined is whether
this disease is due to diet and whether a diet of milk, meats, beans, etc.,
will cure it. In my judgment, the proof of that—and we have tenta-
tively concluded that that is the cause—will be of more value to this
country than was the determination of the method of the transmis-
sion of yellow fever. Another analogous disease to this is beriberi,
which was a Scourge to the Japanese Navy for years. In recent years
it has been discovered that the cause of that disease is the eating of
polished rice. That condition is somewhat analogous to this.
The CHAIRMAN. If the disease were due to some particular diet or
article of diet, the elimination of such diet would mean the elimina-
tion of the disease, would it not %
Dr. KERR. We rather suspect it is due to a deficiency in the diet.
The CHAIRMAN. But if it was due to some particular diet, the
elimination of it should eliminate the disease?
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir. Our plan was to take two of those orphan-
ages and supplement their diet with those particular foods in which
we thought those diets were deficient. That we ought to do. We
went to those institutions and made a careful physical examination of
those children and recorded their histories and diets. We gave them
a treatment which would not have a distinct bearing on the cure of
the disease until we had finished with their physical examination.
We then started this diet, and the results have been remarkable. Of
course, the studies will have to be continued for a period of a year
or eighteen months, because the disease is cyclical in its manifesta-
tions. It comes in the spring and disappears in the late Summer.
That is not true in every case, but it is in the early cases. Therefore,
we were only able to begin our supplementary dietary treatment in
August, but among 226 children treated in one orphanage in the
South, where 139 cases of pellagra were present when the observa-
tions were begun, the disease practically disappeared within five or
six weeks. If our conclusions are right and we can prove them, it
will be entirely practicable to eliminate pellagra from this country,
and very speedily.
TEMPORARY ACTING ASSISTANT SURGEONS.
Mr. MoRDELL. I notice that in your statement of the persons you
intend to employ under this item you have a number of acting as-
sistant surgeons. Are they persons who are also estimated for under
the head of acting assistant surgeons? - e
Dr. KERR. Any medical officers employed or paid out of this fund
would be only temporary in character, and a certain number of these
employees were hired temporarily while this work was being devel-
oped. ” On the 30th of June there were about 114, all told, who were
employed and paid out of this appropriation, but the number has
gradually dropped off until there are now about 74, all told. It has
dropped"off practically one-half. We are not able to continue the
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field investigations at the same rate throughout the year. Such work
can be done much better in Summer, and as soon as we finish a piece
of work we discontinue the temporary employment. As soon as a
particular officer who has been employed is not required he is dis-
continued.
Mr. MoRDELL. How do you secure these people?
Dr. KERR. The most of these employees are secured from the civil-
service list; but here and there, where there is a job of work as, for
instance, special studies of the cerebrospinal fluid and the mental
manifestations of pellagra, we get the permission of the Civil Service
Commission to employ a man as a special expert for a period of not
to exceed three months, which may be extended a further period of
three months, but not beyond that time. A number of our employees
paid out of this fund have been of that special character.
Mr. MoRDELL. The people paid out of this fund are, in the main,
temporary employees, are they
Dr. KERR. There are certain classes of employees under this fund
that we have added since the law of August 24, 1912, was enacted,
and that we did not have before, such as Sanitary engineers, who will
be permanent, and certain sanitary chemists and Sanitary bacteriolo-
gists. But all of the acting assistant surgeons mentioned in that list
that appears in the Book of Estimates, namely, 19, have been dis-
continued since the first of the year, because they were only temporary.
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INTERSTATE QUARANTINE SERVICE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Interstate Quarantine Service:
For cooperation with State and municipal health authorities in the
prevention of the spread of contagious and infectious diseases in
interstate traffic, $15,000.” The current appropriation is $15,000.
Dr. RUCRER. This is the same amount that was asked for last year
and the same amount that was appropriated last year.
The CHAIRMAN. The same amount was also appropriated in 1914.
Dr. RUCKER. The amount of the balance left was $3,758.73.
The CHAIRMAN. That was the unexpended balance?
Dr. RUCKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. It was about the same in 1914?
Dr. RUCKER. Just about.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you do not spend any more than that?
Dr. RUCKER. During the coming year there will be more money
expended, because of the opening of laboratories for the examination
of water supplied to trains engaged in carrying interstate passengers,
and also for the investigation of the watersheds supplying such
waters. Very frequently that is necessary. For example, at a rail-
road point not a great ways from this city it was discovered on ex-
amination that the water contained fecal organisms. An officer was
dispatched by the Surgeon General to make an investigation of the
water supply, and he found that there was very gross pollution tak-
ing place there, and that this water which was grossly polluted was
going to interstate passengers on two different lines of railroad. It
was also being given as the Water supply of passengers who stopped
at a hotel that was operated by one of the railroads. The use of
this supply of water was discontinued, and in the clean-up which
followed a filtration plant was put in and the sewage outlet was
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placed below the water intake instead of above it. Laboratories
have been purchased during the year, and have been installed and
put to work in the examination of water supplies. These are simply
Water laboratories for the examination of water furnished to pas-
sengers in interstate traffic at railroad points.
Rocky Mountain spotted fever, a dangerous communicable disease
which prevails in Montana, has been worked on during the past
year, and a great deal has been accomplished in the prevention of its
spread. It will be necessary, however, to carry on this work for a
further period of one year in order to make sure that it has been
stamped out. e
The work with regard to the investigation of the ventilation of
railroad coaches is still in progress, and the investigation of the
question of track polution is still being conducted with the coopera-
tion of State and municipal health authorities. -
This fund is necessary because the work done under it is not
covered by any other fund. It is particularly intended for the pre-
vention of the interstate spread of such diseases as diphtheria,
typhoid fever, Scarlet fever, tuberculosis, and many other communi-
cable diseases. i *
The CHAIRMAN. Do you make any regulations governing the dis-
infection of sleeping cars? -
Dr. RUCKER. Yes, sir; regulations have been made with regard to
sleeping cars. -
The CHAIRMAN. With reference to disinfecting them?
Dr. RUCKER. Studies are now in progress with regard to the dis-
infection of sleeping cars. During the past year studies have been
made with regard to the travel of tuberculous persons, particularly
from the viewpoint of preventing the bad influence they have on the
health of the traveling public.
COLLECTING INIFORMATION OF THE PREVALENCE OF DISEASE.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking $16,000 for the collection of in-
formation of the prevalence of disease. The item is, “For collect-
ing information of the occurrence of epidemics and the prevalence
of disease throughout the United States, including the pay of special
collaborators, compilers, or agents, and all other expenses attached
thereto.” This is the same request you made last year.
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir; we made that request last year, and we have
requested it again this year with the hope that the committee will
provide us with a fund for the collection of morbidity statistics.
The CHAIRMAN. We have a great Census Bureau created for the
purpose of collecting statistics, and yet everybody else wants to
collect them. . - -
Dr. BLUE. But they only collect mortality statistics.
The CHAIRMAN. It is their business to collect statistics, and yet
we have every other department of the Government collecting sta-
tistics.
Dr. BLUE. We need current information of the prevalence of dis-
eases in order to take measures against them. The Census Bureau,
as a rule, is a year behind in the publication of their statistics, and
then they only publish deaths. Some diseases prevail that do not
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result in death, and if we were to depend upon the Census Bureau
for the statistics, we would not have information concerning any of
those diseases.
The CHAIRMAN. We went into this fully last year.
Dr. BLUE. Yes, sir. º
Mr. MoRDELL. Doctor, you carry on your general quarantine work,
your Work under the head of the prevention of epidemics, your field
investigations, and the work of your interstate quarantine service,
as Well, as your studies of pellagra and other diseases; that being
true, Why can’t you, in connection with that work, without any
Special or extra appropriation, tabulate the information which you
are asking for under this head of appropriation?
Dr. BLUE. It can not be done.
Mr. MQSDELL. You must necessarily, in the various branches of
your work, get that information. -
, Dr. BLUE. We already have the authority to collect this informa-
tion, but we are now asking for a fund with which to pay the
expense. t
Mr. MoRDELL. You Want to employ extra people. Why can’t you
take the information that you have already gathered, and that you
iº necessarily have gathered in your different fields, and tabu-
ate it'ſ
Dr. BLUE. We do not gather sufficient data on the subject.
Mr. MoRDELL. Your work covers, at least, the entire field of con-
tagious and infectious diseases? *
Dr. BLUE. We get reports. -
Mr. MONDELL. It seems to me that you should have in your office
the very information for the Securing of which you ask this appro-
priation. - -
Dr. BLUE. No, sir; we do not collect it. We never have collected
it, and can not collect it unless you provide for a field force.
STUDY OF PELLAGRA.
[See p. 286.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Study of pellagra : For rental,
equipment, and maintenance of a temporary field hospital and labor-
atory, including pay of personnel, for special studies of pellagra,
$40,000.” In the current year we appropriated $47,000 for this
purpose.
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is available this year, is it not?
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir. We have established a small hospital and
laboratory and have employed three biological chemists. We have
two medical officers at this small hospital. The whole hospital is
devoted to the study of the character of the diet, with the idea of
determining exactly by laboratory work what there is in the diet, or,
rather, what is the deficiency in the diet that causes pallagra.
Mr. Mondel.L. Where is this hospital located? º
Dr. KERR. The hospital is located at Spartanburg, S. C. It was
placed there in a building that was rented from one of the cotton
mill companies for $1 per month. We have accommodations for 24
beds, and we have thought to add a tent annex. We should have a
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larger number of patients in that institution. The total cost this
year will be less than it was formerly. -
The CHAIRMAN. This is necessary in order to continue this hos-
pital during the next fiscal year?
Dr. KERR. We think so.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what it is asked for 7
Dr. KERR. Yes, sir. l
Mr. MoRDELL. What are private parties doing in the study of
pellagraº
Dr. KERR. There has been a commission of a New York medical
school studying pellagra, but their work has been discontinued. They
have issued a report, but we have not been informed of their last
findings. But aside from that work that was going on up untiſ
about the 1st of October, we have no knowledge of any other sys-
tematic studies of pellagra being made.
DECEMBER 31, 1914.
SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION.
STATEMENTS OF MR. CHARLES D. WALCOTT, SECRETARY SMITH.
SONIAN INSTITUTION; MR. RICHARD RATHBUN, ASSISTANT
SECRETARY; MR. W. DE C. RAVENEL, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSIST-
ANT; MR. F. W. HODGE, ETHNOLOGIST IN CHARGE OF BUREAU
OF AMERICAN ETHNOLOGY; MR. C. G. ABBOT, DIRECTOR ASTRO-
PHYSICAL OBSERVATORY; DR. FRANK BAKER, SUPERINTEND-
ENT NATIONAL Z00L06 ICAL PARK; AND MR. LEONARD C. GUN-
NELL, ASSISTANT IN CHARGE OF REGIONAL BUREAU FOR THE
UNITED STATES, INTERNATIONAL CATALOGUE OF SCIENTIFIC
LITERATURE.
INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGES.
The CHAIRMAN. “International exchanges: For the system of in-
ternational exchanges between the United States and foreign coun-
tries, under the direction of the Smithsonian Institution, including
compensation of all necessary employees and purchase of necessary
books and periodicals.” The appropriation is $32,000 and your esti-
mate is $32,000?
Mr. WALCOTT. That is the same as last year.
The CHAIRMAN. For American ethnology the appropriation is
$42,000, and the estimate is $66,800.
Mr. HoDGE. I have a very brief itemized statement covering the
stimated increase. This is divided into a number of items, and are
arranged, I might say, as nearly in the order of their importance as
practicable.
1. For ethnological researches in Alaska $4,500
(a) Two ethnologists at $1,500 $3,000 *
(b) Field expenses g 1,500
2. For the extension of ethnological researches among the tribes of the
Mississippi drainage - 2, 600
(a) One ethnologist at-––––– * ___ $1, 00
(b) Field expenses––––––––– S00
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3. For the excavation and study of archeological remains in the South
and West $3,750
(a) One archeologist at $1,500
(b) One assistant (6 mos.) 750
(C) Field expenses-- __ 1, 500
4. Toward the preparation of a series of handbooks on the Indians of the
respective States, with special reference to the needs of schools -
and Colleges 3, 600
This Sum is desired for the purpose of employing specialists and
for the purchase of manuscript material for publication.
5. For the exploration and preservation of antiquities, including the cliff
dwellings in the arid region 4, 000
(a) One assistant archeologist $1,000
(b) Field expenses, including the employment of laborers,
etC 3, 000
6. For the acquirement of original manuscript material pertaining to the
Americalm Indians and the natives of Hawaii, for publication______ 2, 400
7. Toward the preparation of a revised edition of the Handbook Of -
American Indians, including the employment of specialists and of
editorial and Clerical assistance 2,600
The CHAIRMAN. When was the last edition of the Handbook of
American Indians published?
Mr. HoDGE. The first volume in 1907 and the second volume in
1910. In 1912 Congress ordered the work reprinted in an edition of
6,500 copies, of which 6,000 copies were for the use of Congress and
500 copies for distribution by the bureau. The superintendent of
documents has had the handbook reprinted several times for sale at
$3 for the two volumes. As the work of the bureau has proceeded
much more information has been obtained, and it is very desirable
that this should be incorporated in the form of a new edition of the
handbook, for which the demand has been very great. Indeed, the
demand seems to be just as great as it was at the time of the publica-
tion of the work. The estimated sum of $2,600 is needed in order
that specialists outside of the bureau can be enlisted in the work
where they have special knowledge of the subjects involved. This
is the most economical method to pursue in revising a work of this
kind. Of course, some editorial and clerical assistance will be neces-
Sary. *. *
8. For the employment of additional clerical assistance (chiefly tempo-
rary), and for office expenses, stationery, supplies, and equipment,
incidellt to the increased field WOrk
In all, $24,800.
The CHAIRMAN. And the balance is to continue the work engaged
on last year? -
Mr. HoDGE. Yes; it is the plan to continue that.
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INTERNATIONAL CATALOGUE OF SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE.
The CHAIRMAN. International Catalogue of Scientific Literature.
The appropriation is $7,500 and your estimate is $7,500.
Mr. WALCOTT. Mr. Chairman, there is a suggestion I would like
to make in regard to that item, and that is to provide that not to
exceed $600 of this appropriation may be used to pay for technical
services of employees of other Government departments and estab-
lishments; and provided further, that such services shall be per-
formed only while said employees are not engaged in their official
duties.
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The CHAIRMAN. What is the purpose of that?
Mr. GUNNELL. Mr. Chairman, the technical knowledge needed to
classify all of the papers indexed is very great, as we cover all the
branches of Science and have a very limited appropriation, and as
theré are very few people regularly engaged in this work it is neces-
Sary at times to obtain the assistance of specialists, and it is not pos-
sible to get one or two people with sufficient knowledge to classify
all these sciences outside of the Government service. There are no
people outside of the Government service in Washington able to do
this work, and for a number of years we were allowed by the former
comptroller to employ the Government employees of other bureaus
and pay them a certain amount, they doing the work outside of their
regular office hours. It amounted to only about $600 a year, but the
present comptroller does not agree with his predecessor and thinks
we are not authorized to use the appropriation in this Way; this de-
cision has really handicapped our work to a great extent. We simply
want to continue the method we used formerly. I have an argument
here covering a couple of pages, but I have given you a digest of the
matter. - •
(Suggested provision to be inserted in sundry civil bill after appropriation for
International Catalogue of Scientific Literature, under Smithsonian Insti-
tution :
Hºhen, That not to exceed $600 of this appropriation may be used to pay
for technical services of employees of other Government departments and estab-
lishments: Provided further, That such services shall be performed only while
Said employees are not engaged in their Official duties.
The CHAIRMAN. What else do you spend this money for?
Mr. GUNNELL. Simply preparing the index catalogue of American
scientific literature. It is spent for salaries.
The CHAIRMAN. It is all spent for personal services?
Mr. GUNNELL. Yes, sir; practically. Not 5 per cent of it goes for
office requirements. The salaries amount to $6,660, and the $600 I
ask to be used in this way would go in as a part of the Salaries, of
COll]*Se. -
Mr. WALCOTT. That would be $7,260 out of the $7,500 appro-
priated.
ASTROPHYSICAL OBSERVATORY.
The CHAIRMAN. “Astrophysical Observatory: For maintenance of
Astrophysical Observatory, under the direction of the Smithsonian
Institution, including salaries of assistants, purchase of necessary
books and periodicals, including payment in advance for subscrip-
tions, apparatus, making necessary observations in high altitudes,
repairs, and alterations of buildings, and miscellaneous expenses.”
The appropriation is $13,000, and you ask for $15,000 for 1916.
Mr. ABBOT. Mr. Chairman, the main purpose of the increase
which is asked for is to employ one additional computer. We are
now getting many more results from our observations on Mount
Wilson than we did formerly, and it is practically impossible to
keep up to date with the computing.
The CHAIRMAN. This is for an additional computer? *
Mr. ABBOT. Yes; at $960. Then, furthermore, it is the intention
to get some more apparatus. We find ourselves much handicapped in
our work by lack of convenient apparatus for laboratory purposes.
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Whenever we want to do anything we practically have to make the
apparatus in order to do it and it delays us a good deal. If we could
have those conveniences which other laboratories have, and which we
have found ourselves deprived of by the scarcity of our funds, we
could get on faster than we are doing. Those are the main uses for
the additional sum which is asked.
I will say, sir, that in the past year we have obtained what seems
to us a very interesting and striking result. We sent up a balloon
to a great height, about 12 miles, and registered by automatic con-
trivances the heat of the Sun at that enormous elevation, where, in
fact, more than nine-tenths of the air is below the instrument. The
intensity of the radiation of the sun there was found to agree
very closely with what we had computed from our observations of
past years. So it has practically checked up the results of former
years. -
I had hoped very much, Mr. Chairman, that certain foreign Gov-
ernments would take up the work of observing the Sun day by day.
I began trying to interest them last July. But in August the war
broke out. Since, however, we have shown in the last few years the
substantial variability of the Sun, it is greatly to be hoped that when
the war ceases and things return to a normal condition observations
of the sun may be made at widely-separated regions of the earth day
by day. I think, sir, it will be found that they will be valuable in
the prediction of temperatures, rainfall and the like, and for other
purposes. That, however, is something which the war has probably
postponed some years, unless the United States should be disposed
to undertake it on its own account.
BOOKSTACKS FOR GOVERNMENT BUREAU LIBRARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. “Bookstacks for Government bureau libraries.”
Mr. WALCOTT. Mr. Chariman, the original request for an appro-
priation was $40,000, and $15,000 was first appropriated for 1914
and $10,000 for 1915. Now, we have estimated a further sum of
$6,750 to complete the work, and I have a list here of the items:
To complete the metal bookstacks at the West end of the hall,
$1,550.
That is at the same rate as the original contract for the book-
stacks at the east end of the hall, which are now completed. We
have $9,500 available, and it is necessary to get $1,550 to complete
the stacks. I have photographs here showing the completed end of
the hall and the present condition of the ‘noncompleted portion at
the west end. This $1,550 is to finish up and complete that end of
the hall.
Then it is necessary to install the lighting equipment as origi-
nally planned, and we have a tentative estimate for lighting the
main hall of $1,675, and the lighting of the West end will cost about
$500, and we estimate for that $2,500, which will, we think, com-
plete the work fully and put it in good shape. -
Then there is an estimate of painting of $1,500.
This sum for the painting is based upon an estimate for the
painting of the east end of the hall, and the $1,500 will apply to the
entire hall. -- -
Then for repairs and other incidental expenses, $1,200.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 295
This includes replacing a part of the floor. That floor was put in
there many years ago; also repairing the ceilings and walls and
some of the ornamental parts which have been cut or loosened in
connection with the work now going on. -
This makes a total expenditure of $6,750, and that will complete
the building, and if practicable it is very desirable to have that
made available, as the men are ready to go right on with the work.
The CHAIRMAN. You strike out the words “exclusive of carrier.”
Mr. WALCOTT. There is no estimate for a carrier. The impres-
sion was that the committee did not care to undertake that this
year and no estimate is put in for the carrier.
NATIONAL MUSEUIM.
The CHAIRMAN. “National Museum: For cases, furniture, fixtures,
and appliances required for the exhibition and safe-keeping of col-
lections, including compensation of all necessary employees.” The
appropriation is $25,000, and you are asking for $25,000.
Mr. RATHBUN. That is the same as the current appropriation.
CASES, FURNITURE, AND FIXTURES.
The CHAIRMAN. What is your situation in regard to these cases?
Are you up to your current needs or way over them?
Mr. RATHBUN. No, sir; we are way below our current needs, and
as the chairman made some remarks last year which are left upon the
record, I think it might be well to offer an explanation, but that
explanation can be left out if the chairman is satisfied with our
single statement.
The CHAIRMAN. Just tell us what the situation is.
Mr. RAVENEL. Of the $25,000, $8,000 will be spent on construction,
remodeling, and repairing of exhibition furniture. I have a state-
ment of that here, as follows:
Proposed schedule shouting classified ea:penditures for appropriation for furni-
ture (tnd fictures. 1916.
Exhibition furniture and fittings: I’or construction, remodeling, and re-
pairs of exhibition furniture, including frames, stands, and holders___ $8,000
Storage and furniture for collections :
40 76-inch Steel storage racks, at $45––––––––––––––––––––––– $1,800
30 36-inch steel storage racks, at $25----------------------- 750
15 Steel insect cases ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– ––––––––– 900
82 quarter-unit cases ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– S00
12 half-unit cases ---------------------------------------- 476
25 herbarium cases--------------------------------------- G25
2,000 unit dra Wel's, Wood ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 2, 100
1,000 half-unit wooden trays------------------------------ 500
400 insect dra Wers, Standard------------------------------ 1, 160
200 insect drawers. Without Cork-------------------------- 450
Repairing, remodeling cases, drawers, etc.------------------ 1, 160
- l — 10, 721
- 1S, 721
Jars, bottles, vials, boxes, trays, etc. : * .
Glass jars, bottles, and Vials------------------------------ 3,000
Paper boxes and trays----------------------------------- 1, 000
4. 000
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Miscellaneous furniture and fixtures, laboratories, offices, etc. :
2 file cases, cap size-------------------------------------- $80
10 file cases, letter size__ ---------------------- 300
80 card Catalogue cases, at $5.50__________________________ 440
6 bookcases, at $80--------------------------------------- 180
6 tables * ------------ 100
4 desks, at $30–––– *-* *-* * * * * *-* * * * * * * * * * * * * - am - ºr - -s sº 120
4 chairs, at $7------------------------------------------- 2S
6 typewriters, at $70––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 420
6 typewriter chairs –––––––– - tº 34
10 lockers, at $7.50___ * - - - - - - - - - = = - - - - - 75
* Water coolers------------------------------------------ 20
60 Window shades, at $2–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 120
Miscellaneous furniture and fittings.----------------------- 362
2, 279
Total--------------------------------------------------------- 25,000
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, I would like in view of what has
been said regarding this item of appropriation to make a few re-
marks. The underlying principles of museum growth and activities
necessitate continuous apppropriations for furnishings. This is ex-
emplified in all great museums in this country and abroad. You can
not get away from it. As to the National Museum, from 1858 to
1878, Congress gave to the Museum for this purpose $98,500. During
this time the Museum was occupying only a Small part of the Smith-
sonian Building, even though most of the Museum expenses were paid
from the Smithsonian fund. From 1881, when the older Museum
Building was completed, until 1909, when appropriations began to be
made for the new building, there were annual appropriations which
averaged in yearly amount $30,700, and aggregated for the entire
period of 28 years $860,000. Since the furnishing of the new build-
ing began in 1909 there has been appropriated an aggregate of
$675,000, a small part of which has, of course, been used for the older
buildings. The new building contains over three times the area of
the other two buildings combined. About $625,000 has been expended
on its furniture as against over $1,000,000 on that of the two older
buildings. A misunderstanding may very well arise from the nature
of the growth of this Museum and of all museums. Were it possible
to complete the furnishing as a single job, as, for instance, in a great
office building or a great manufacturing building, it would greatly
relieve the duties of the Museum administrator, and except for the
fact that the Museum had in readiness beforehand a large amount of
material for the exhibition collections for the new building, the in-
stallations could not have been carried forward nearly as rapidly as
they have been, and not nearly the amount of furniture already used
could have been planned for up to the present time.
Now, Mr. Chairman, as to a few instances of how these matters
come up. During the current year the Museum has been presented
with one of the most remarkable historical collections of musical in-
struments in existence, valued at many thousands of dollars, and occu-
pying about 4,000 square feet of floor space. This collection is now
being arranged in the open, as there are no funds to obtain cases. I
might add that this came after our estimates for next year were made
up and is not included in them. A wealthy New York man has just
offered as a gift his collection of ceramics, one of the finest in any
museum in this country, on condition that it be appropriately in-
stalled. We have space for it, but not the means for furnishing the
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Gases; but nevertheless the Museum can not decline such a gift and
is accepting it. That is the way these needs for furniture come up.
The collection which is offered and of which I have just spoken is in
29 packing cases. We do not know the number of pieces. Instances
of Such gifts are becoming more and more common every year.
Then, of course, as the committee knows, we are fitting up the older
Museum buildings for the arts and industries, but there we are using
Imostly the old cases, though they require repairs and refinishing.
Last year two halls were so fitted up. Then we must have provision
for the little receptacles, the bottles, jars, and boxes in which these
things are kept. I would like, Mr. Chairman, to add to this statement
the fact that from 1881 to 1909, or previous to the completion of the
new building, there was an annual appropriation for furniture
without exception, and on an average of $30,700 a year.
HEATING, LIGHTING, TELEGRAPH, TELEPHONE, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. “For expenses of heating, lighting, electrical,
telegraphic, and telephonic service,” the appropriation is $46,000,
and your estimate is $46,000. -
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, neither the estimate nor the method
of expending it has been changed. It is the same as last year.
The CHAIRMAN. For continuing the preservation, exhibition, and
increase of collections the appropriation is $300,000, and you are
asking for $330,000. -
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, that estimate can give rise to a
long explanation or a short One. -
The CHAIRMAN. If you want to get any more money this year it
had better be a satisfactory one. gº
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, last year an additional $20,000 was
requested to this item wholly in the interest of the Department of
Arts and Industries. . The argument for such an item was very ex-
plicitly defined in the hearings of last year. This request is repeated
again this year as the most important and the most material require-
ment of the Museum. It is very hard not being able to organize at
least the more important branches which I am certain will insure
practical benefits for the people far above even our own anticipa-
tions. That is the sum of the argument made last year. An addi-
tional $10,000 is requested for the scientific departments, being other
than the arts and industries, of which the one most immediately in
need of it is the National Herbarium.
The force is now much too small to handle the large collection and
reduce it to a state of proper classification. The National Herba-
rium has a close affiliation with the Bureau of Plant Industry of the
Department of Agriculture, which, to a large extent, is dependent
upon it for its systematic or classificatory work. The department
has recently turned over to the Museum its entire collection of
grasses, about 100,000 in number, and all of the plant specimens are
held at the service of the department. -
To go more into detail, Mr. Chairman, the Museum was founded
by Congress in 1846, and its organization began in 1850, though its
first appropriation from the Government was not received until
1857. During the first 25 years of its existence, the Smithsonian
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Institution spent much more for its support than did the Govern-
ment, or over $110,000, and, except for the energetic action of the
institution, it is more than likely that the Museum would long ago
have ceased to exist. But the Museum was carried safely through
its crucial stage and passed to that in which its greatness and im-
portance began to be comparable with the corresponding estab-
lishments in Europe. But through all of its existence it has never
had the support requisite for its ordinary proper maintenance, and
to-day the conditions are relatively more taxing than ever. With
the two older buildings, containing 3 acres, the appropriation
reached $190,000, while to-day, with 14 acres, they have been in-
creased to only $300,000, out of which amount some $80,000 is
required for the watch and cleaning force for the maintenance of
the public exhibition halls. The use of “acres” for purposes of
comparison is, of course, only a crude way of expressing growth,
yet the collections have grown and exhibitions have expanded to a
marvelous degree, and this extension has brought greater activities
and greater utilitarian results. Those Members of Congress who
drafted the fundamental act displayed marvelous wisdom in pro-
nouncing upon the program for the Museum. -
Of first importance was the direction to care for the collections of
natural history acquired by Government expeditions, and to increase
them by means of exchanges and other ways. These collections now
form the backbone of the Museum and caused the erection of the new
building. Next came the gallery of arts, and in furtherance of this
subject the Institution expended about $3,000 in 1847 for a collection
of engravings which is now worth some $75,000. Real activities in
the gallery did not, however, begin until 1906, and since then the
donations have exceeded $2,000,000 in value, not including the build-
ing to be erected by Mr. Freer. Outside of the Freer collection, the
gallery in the new building contains several hundred thousand dol-
lars worth of paintings which are being maintained without cost to
the Government, simply because we have an artist on the scientific
staff. His own particular duties are very exacting, and it is an impo-
sition to call upon him for this special work; but no request for his
relief is now pending, though the matter should soon be settled in
one way or another. -
The CHAIRMAN. It is only a question of how rapidly you will pre-
pare for exhibition purposes the material you have?
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, it is not a question solely of exhibi-
tion, but it is a question of work and activities that would make
these collections of use. That is what we need. Men who are not
expert can not prepare collections or classify collections, or label
them for exhibition purposes. First of all, the real question to-day
is the getting into shape of the important branches in the arts and
industries, and of starting work upon such branches as animal
products and vegetable products, which, of course, comprise im-
portant subjects still undeveloped. They contain matters of the very
greatest importance. In the textiles, in the mining products, in
ceramics, and in medicine we have an immense amount of work to
do, and we are doing it with the minimum force. In fact, we have
nobody in most of the branches—we have a very inadequate force.
During last year we put into shape several more of the exhibition
halls, and we have done it mainly by taking old cases and allowing
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people to put things in them in order to make some show. Now is
the time when, if ever, the Museum has the opportunity of doing an
especially important work, and that work is to put our people in the
possession of information and of methods that will allow them to
compete under the conditions which are going to follow this war
in Europe. This is not a fairy story, but is something that has long
been done throughout the countries of Europe which we call civil
lized
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We do not want to do what they do
in those civilized countries, if present conditions are the result of
those things.
Mr. WALCOTT. He said we call them civilized countries.
Mr. RATHBUN. The point that I wished to bring out in what I
was saying was that we must get organized to a certain extent.
BOOKS, PERIODICALS, AND PAMPHLETS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For purchase of books, pam-
phlets, and periodicals for reference, including payment in advance
for subscriptions, $4,000.” The current appropriation for this pur-
pose is $2,000. -
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, I really made last year the strongest
argument I could make with regard to books. We need them and
Ought to have them.
The CHAIRMAN. We can not give you as much time on it this year
as we gave last year, because we must finish with the bill. *
REPAIRS TO BUILDINGS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For repairs to buildings, shops,
and sheds, including all necessary labor and material, $15,000.” The
current appropriation for this purpose is $10,000. .
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Chairman, I am going to ask that Mr. Ravenel
speak about that. - &
Mr. RAVENEL. We ask an appropriation of $15,000, and it is pro-
posed to expend approximately $7,900 of it on the roofs of the differ-
ent buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. Again?
Mr. RAVENEL. The items referred to are the refastening the copper
roofs on the new building and replacing the slate roofs on the south-
west pavilion and on the four towers of the old building. Those
slate roofs have been there since the building was constructed, and
they are in very bad condition. An estimate for the remodeling of
the skylights over the three large halls of the new building is also
included, amounting to $4,000. - t
The skylights measure about 146 feet in length by 30 feet in width,
and have leaked ever since the building was finished, because of the
improper setting of the glass. We have conducted some experi-
ments within the last 12 months and are now prepared to complete
that work if this appropriation is made. In addition to the above,
we include estimates for the repainting of the exterior work, Wood
and metal, on the old and new buildings, sheds, and shops, at a cost of
$1,300; for replacing with cement the old asphalt water table on the
east end of the old building at a cost of $435; water table west end
300 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
of Smithsonian Building, $700; for covering with sheet metal the
ceilings of the six ranges in the old building, $1,800; and $2,000 for
repainting, pointing up, and repairs to walls, ceilings, and floors of
old and new buildings. *
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the character of the skylight on the new
building that it should require replacing so soon!
Mr. RAVENEL. The skylights are made of metal and glass, but I
think that Mr. Rathbun knows more about the construction of the
skylights.
Mr. RATHBUN. I would say this, that is seems as though the
modern architect were unable to put on any big building a roof that
will stand. We have been extremely unfortunate in both the sky-
lights, which are very long, and in the roofs. They have put the
copper on in too wide sheets—32 inches wide—which could not be
fastened in such a way as to make a good roof. The only thing for
us to do with the copper is to split it in half and put in intermediate
strips to which the new edges will be attached in a manner to permit
of expansion. At the present time the copper roof is full of leaks;
so far as the skylights are concerned
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). What building is this?
Mr. RATHBUN. It is the new building, I am sorry to say. So far
as the skylights are concerned, they were made on an improved plan
that has not turned out well. The glass is fastened in an overlapping
manner like this [indicating] by a new method, which allows much
of the water coming down the surface to pass through, and, not-
withstanding the fact that gutters are placed underneath the glass,
the water leaks through onto the ceiling lights and the floor. The
gutters overflow. º
Mr. GILLETT. Who was responsible for the original mistake? -
Mr. RATHIBUN. That I can not say. Mr. Green was the superin-
tendent of construction, but, of course, we all know that Mr. Green
was beyond question expert and honest. It was, presumably, a new
form of skylight which had been approved elsewhere and was ac-
cepted on such approval.
Mr. GILLETT. It was not the fault of the copper, was it?
Mr. RATHBUN. Not as to the skylights, but the copper roof, unfor-
tunately, is also in bad condition.
Mr. GILLETT. Who was responsible for it?
Mr. RATHBUN. The construction was all under the same manage-
ment. The building was delivered to us, and it was built under the
Supervision which Congress ordered.
Mr. GILLETT. Who was the architect 2
Mr. RATHBUN. Hornblower & Marshall, but they had nothing to
do with laying the roofs.
Mr. GILLETT. Who was responsible for the roofs?
Mr. RATHIBUN. Mr. Green. The roofs should never have been cov-
ered in this way, but if you examine some of the new, large buildings
in New York City you will find the roofs made according to similar
methods, and they turn out just as bad. The best roof in Washing-
ton to-day is the roof which this committee allowed us to rebuild a
little each year, and which, of course, was finished several years ago.
That is the roof on the old Museum building, and it will last forever.
It is of tin.
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POSTAGE STAMEPS AND POSTAL CARDS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “for postage stamps and foreign
postal cards, $500.” The current appropriation is $500.
Mr. RATHIBUN. This is a small item, and all of it is needed.
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NATIONAL ZOOLOGICAL PAREC.
STATEMENT OF MR. FRANK BAKER, SUPERINTENDENT,
CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS, WALKs, BRIDGES, MAINTENANCE, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. We will now take up the National Zoological
Park. The first item is—
For Continuing the construction of roads, walks, bridges, Water supply, sewer-
age, and drainage; grading, planting, and otherwise improving the grounds;
erecting alld repairing buildings and inclosures: care, subsistence, purchase,
and transportation of animals, including compensation of all necessary em-
ployees; and general incident; I expenses not otherwise provided for, including
purchase, maintenance, and driving of horses and vehicles required for official
purposes, for the purchase of necessary book:3 and periodicals, payment in ad-
Vance of subscriptions, $125,000,
The current appropriation is $100,000. What is the necessity for
that increase in the appropriation for the Zoological Park? *
Mr. BAKER. In addition to the regular expenditures, we wish to
repair the injury done by the construction of the interceptor sewer
which has been constructed along the west bank of the creek. There
tº ^e ſe * & -ſ: 4. * º
is a very decided gash made by that upon the side of the creek which
is very disfiguring, indečd, to the park.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want to do to it?
Mr. BAKER. I want to fill it up and grade it so it can be planted.
I Want to do that so the defacement will be removed.
The CHAIRMAN. How much will that cost?
Mr. BAKER. We estimate that will cost $3,500.
ANIMALS.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want the other increase for ?
Mr. BAKER. We want to get some new animals if we can.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not buy animals in Europe now. That
is where you buy them, is it not? -
Mr. BAKER. We do not buy all of them in Europe.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you want for that purpose?
Mr. BAKER. We want for that purpose $8,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You can do without that this year.
BOUNDARY FENCE.
Mr. BAKER. Then, we wish to repair and reconstruct the boundary
fence, which is practically all gone except the posts.
The CHAIRMAN. What fence is that?
Mr. BAKER. The boundary fence which surrounds the park.
Mr. GILLETT. Is it a wire fence? *,
Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. Has the wire rotted out?
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Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much will that cost?
Mr. BAKER. That will probably cost $7,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How long has that fence been up?
Mr. BAKER. For 12 years. -
The CHAIRMAN. When did it get in a bad condition?
Mr. MoRDELL. What is your estimate for that?
Mr. BAKER. $7,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. When did that fence commence to get in a bad
condition?
Mr. BAKER. It has been getting so, this year and last year. It has
been gradually rotting out. * ,
The CHAIRMAN. What else do you want? •
PUBLIC-COMFORT STATIONS.
Mr. BAKER. We want a public-comfort house and toilet facilities
for the public. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where? -
Mr. BAKER. We want to erect that in the park for about $6,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is that to be? w
Mr. BAKER. Somewhere near the center of the park.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, you propose to increase some salaries?
ANIMAL LABORATORY AND EIOSPITAL.
Mr. BAKER. There are some very slight increases of salaries. We
wish also to increase our scientific activities by putting in a hos-
pital and laboratory for sick animals.
The CHAIRMAN. Why not send them to this animal hospital of the
Marine Hospital Service? -
Mr. BAKER. We have urged this for some time.
The CHAIRMAN. You want a separate building for sick animals?
Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many sick animals do you have?
Mr. BAKER. We have a good many sick animals.
The CHAIRMAN. How many did you lose last year? .
Mr. BAKER. About 350. We usually lose from 200 to 400 in a year,
including many that are nearly dead when received and those that
are injured in fighting and by accidents. Last year about 30 per
cent of the loss was in the mammals, 55 per cent in the birds, and
15 per cent in the reptiles.
Th; CHAIRMAN. What kind? How many animals have you out
there?
Mr. BAKER. About 1,400. There were 1,468 in the collection at the
beginning of the year and 325 new animals were added during the
year, so that the percentage of loss would be based on a total of
about 1,800 animals, the greatest risk being on the new animals.
The CHAIRMAN. And you lose five or six hundred every year?
Mr. BAKER. Perhaps not so many as that, but something from 10
to 20 per cent usually. .. -
The CHAIRMAN. That would be only 140 if you have 1,400. If
you have so many sick animals, we ought to give you a hospital and
no new animals.
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Mr. BAKER. We ought to have a hospital. We have needed that
for a good many years. --
The CHAIRMAN. Are there any animal hospitals anywhere else?
Mr. BAKER. They have one in Philadelphia, in New York, and in
Cincinnati. In every well-appointed zoological garden there ought
to be a hospital.
The CHAIRMAN. How is it that you have never thought of asking
for a hospital before?
Mr. BAKER. We have presented it year after year.
The CHAIRMAN. You have never mentioned it since I have been a
member of the committee. *
Mr. BAKER. It was first Submitted in the estimates for 1892, also
in those for 1905 and 1906, and it was included in the list of buildings
required as given at the hearing on the 1915 estimates. -
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the estimate for this animal hospital?
Mr. BAKER. About $5,000. . This building is needed not only for
a hospital, but to furnish a place where new animals can be kept in
quarantine until it is determined that they have no communicable
disease. It would greatly reduce the amount of trouble of that
kind if we could quarantine animals that are suspected of being
diseased.
CONSTRUCTION OF AVIARY BUILDING.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For construction of an aviary
building, with interior and exterior cages, including labor and ma-
terial and all necessary incidental expenses, $80,000.” Is this the
matter we went into so fully last year?
Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir. There was a statement made here last year
in reference to a public comfort building and restaurant.
Mr. MoRDELL. Which of these items do you need most, the public
comfort station, the hospital, or the repairs to damages done the
scenery by the sewer? &
Mr. BAKER. The scenery can wait; but, as you will notice, it is a
very great disfigurement to the park. I would prefer to have the
hospital and laboratory. I think that is the most important of all.
PAYMENT TO ASSISTANT SECRETARY.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice that you have an assistant secretary. To
whom is he an assistant?
Mr. BAKER. He is assistant to the Secretary of the Smithsonian
Institution. -
The CHAIRMAN. What does he do?
Mr. BAKER. He looks after the park.
The CHAIRMAN. He is paid $500 per year?
Mr. BAKER. That is only a part of his salary.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the rest of it?
Mr. BAKER. It is paid out of other Smithsonian appropriations.
The CHAIRMAN. They take a part of this appropriation to bolster
up somebody’s salary somewhere else?
Mr. BAKER. This is an arrangement made by the Secretary of the
Smithsonian Institution. That assistant secretary is paid in part
from Smithsonian appropriations.
The CHAIRMAN. What does he do at the Zoological Park?
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Mr. BAKER. He assists in a number of ways. º
The CHAIRMAN. In what way? Tell us what he does about the
park that entitles him to $500 out of this appropriation. 3 *
Mr. BAKER. He had general supervision of the affairs of the park
in the same manner that assistant secretaries of the departments
have general charge of various bureaus in them. The park was one
of the branches of the Smithsonian Institution coming under his
general charge. All correspondence and everything that affected
the policy of the park or related to any action of unusual importance
was referred to him. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why not have the correspondence answered there
by some one who knows about it? What does he know about the
park? i
Mr. BAKER. He had knowledge of the park. -
The CHAIRMAN. Does he sign his name after you prepare the
letters? “ *
Mr. BAKER. No, sir. He advises us in regard to what we ought
to do. If we have a new project, we submit it to him, and it under-
goes his approval. -
Mr. GILLETT. Who is this assistant secretary 3
Mr. BAKER. It was Mr. F. W. True last year.
Mr. GILLETT. Who is it this year?
Mr. BAKER. Nobody now, at the present moment. Mr. True is
dead.
Mr. GILLETT. How long since he died?
Mr. PAKER. About six months ago.
Mon DAY, JANUARY 4, 1915.
INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION.
STATEMENTS OF MIR. JAMES S. HARLAN, CHAIRMAN; M.R. GEORGE
B. M'GINTY, SECRETARY; MR. C. A. PROUTY, DIRECTOR OF
VALUATION; AND MR. GEORGE F. GRAHAM, DISBURSING
CLERK,
GENERAL EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. For all other authorized expenditures necessary
in the execution of laws to regulate commerce, the appropriation for
1915 was $910,000; for 1914, $950,000; and the estimate is $925,000.
What was the unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. GRAHAM. Of the general appropriation the unexpended bal-
ance was $22,797.04 for the year 1914. *
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for this additional appro-
priation? 4.
Mr. McGINTY. Mr. Chairman, the appropriation of $950,000 was
reduced by $40,000, taking out, what had been the approximate
expenditure for our hours-of-service work, which made the amount
of the general appropriation for the current year $910,000. For the
ensuing year the commission has reduced its estimate for printing
by $15,000 and added the $15,000 to the $910,000, making the esti-
mate for the ensuing year $925,000. the reasons therefor being the
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general increase in the commission’s work, which we will endeavor
to explain in detail if you wish.
The CHAIRMAN. That does not explain the necessity for an in-
crease in this item. .
Mr. MCGINTY. I can explain that right now, sir, by saying that
taking a comparison of the December pay roll, 1914, with the De-
cember pay roll, 1913, there is an increase of 60 employees, or a total
of $636,560 per annum, which, Mr. Chairman, will so increase the
commission’s expenses that it will be necessary for the commission
this month to put in a deficiency estimate for the current fiscal year
to cover these increases.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for this increase?
Mr. MCGINTY. The necessity, I have just said, is for the 60 em-
ployees brought about by the additional work. The commission has
had during the year 35 special investigations, 8 of which have been
in 1'esponse to resolutions of the Senate, 1 was a continuing investi-
gation in response to a joint resolution of the Senate and House, 3
investigations by request of the Committee on Interstate and Foreign
Commerce of the House, and 23 investigations were specially ordered
by the commission on its own initiative. The increase in formal
complaints filed with the commission has been 139. During the year
ending December 31, 1914, there were filed 1,169 complaints as
against 1,030 complaints for the same period of 1913. Also, during
the last four months of this year—September, October, November,
and December—it has been necessary for the commission to conduct
815 hearings as compared with 545 hearings during the same months
of the previous year, or an increase of 270 hearings. This has neces-
sitated the employment of 18 additional attorneys for the commis-
Sion, at an increase in expense of $77,120 per annum, and has neces-
sitated a general increase in practically all of the divisions of the
commission.
Mr. HARLAN. Those attorneys, Mr. Chairman, are really exam-
iners who hear testimony. They are not attorneys in the ordinary
Se]]SO. &
Mr. SHERLEY. How do you explain this very great increase in
your activities in view of the statement of there being very much
less railroad activity in the country now as compared with some
previous years? - &
Mr. HARLAN. Well, Mr. Sherley, as the secretary has intimated,
We have had an unusual number of important investigations to
make under resolutions either by the House of by the Senate. Such
investigations ordinarily are very extensive and require a great deal
of labor and result is very large records; and, as the secretary indi-
cates, they are more expensive. They require us to put on the work
a large number of accounting examiners and other examiners to
examine the records of the carriers. They are not like litigated
cases where the reasonableness of a rate is involved and the com-
plainant makes up his own case and presents it to us. Where we
are requested by the Senate or the House to conduct investigations
nobody is ready ordinarily to help us and we must help ourselves
by digging out the facts through our examiners. In one such in-
yestigation we had as many as 50 accountants at work; and these
investigations partially explain our larger requirements at this time.
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Mr. SHERLEY. Right in that connection, you have a system for
uniform accounting of railroads and that has been in operation for
some years now?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes. &
Mr. SHERLEY. I am speaking of the system that the railroads have
now adopted. They have a uniform system and presumably that
system tells you their financial story. That is the theory of it.
Mr. HARLAN. Yes. -
Mr. SHERLEY. And that raises the inquiry as to why it is not easier
to arrive at any desired data touching the railroad than would seem
to be indicated by your answer a few moments ago.
Mr. HARLAN. The financial story of a railroad as carried into its
books does not give us the details of the bills and much other infor-
mation often required by us. To get that we have to go back to the
Original records of the carriers.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is that because of false bookkeeping?
Mr. HARLAN. No ; simply to get the necessary information. There
is much information which the railroads do not themselves bring for-
Ward onto their books of account, and We have to go back to the
original records and papers; we have had a great deal of that kind
of work during the past year.
Mr. SHERLEY. One of the things you cite as evidence of increased
activities is the increased number of complaints that are filed. How
do you account for that?
Mr. HARLAN. Well, possibly the general growth of our work is
due to some extent to the better understanding in the country of the
opportunities shippers have to come before us and ascertain whether
their rates are reasonable or not, and possibly the general commercial
conditions have led the merchants to inquire more closely as to
whether they are paying too much in freight charges.
Mr. SHERLEY. That would rather indicate, would it not, that both
the slacking of business and the constant Work of the commission
over a series of years would tend to decrease rather than increase
litigation touching rates? In other words, I am wondering whether
we are reaching a period where our legislation simply invites and
requires more and more litigation between shipper and railroad, or
whether we are presumably carrying out the theory of the thing
which was to bring about such an equitable situation as would dis-
pense with such litigation in large part. &
Mr. HARLAN. My own impression is that our cases are growing
larger in the sense that they involve broader issues, and are settling
rate questions more broadly than former cases did. We have more
cases now than formerly where whole systems of rates are involved
and perhaps less cases where individual rates between two given
points are questioned. ge tº
The shippers of the country are looking into rate matters more
carefully than they used to. A great many industries have employed
traffic managers to look into rates on their shipments, and they dis-
cover occasionally inequalities and maladjustments that often are
Iot known to the carriers themselves. This results in many addi-
tional cases before the commission.
Mr. SHERLEY. Are you not really having a situation where the
commercial clubs and boards of trade of various cities in the country
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 307
are hiring men whose chief occupation is to find some way in which
they can either do away with what they think is an inequality or get
an advantage over Some competing city, and that practically the
shipping fraternity has gone into various local combinations for the
purpose of litigating rate making, so that they may get different
rates and differentials? -
Mr. HARLAN. Undoubtedly that is so. We have now a great many
cases that are brought by shippers' associations or boards of trade
and shippers’ leagues, which have hired rate experts, often from the
railroad service, and occasionally from our service, to look into the
rates of that particular community to see what rate inequalities and
discriminations exist and to bring them to our attention. There are
also many independent claims bureaus or so-called audit companies
that go to shippers and ask for their expense bills. Those people
very often discover overcharges or file complaints alleging preferen-
tial or discriminatory rates and asking for reparation. They are
compensated often on a percentage of the damages recovered. We
have a number of such suits always pending before us.
Mr. SHERLEY. How far are the suits alleging unfair treatment as
between shippers, as contradistinguished from localities, increasing
or decreasing?
Mr. HARLAN. I do not know that we have made any analysis of
that kind.
Mr. SHERLEY. I am wondering how far the evolution of rate mak-
ing by the commission is developing into a consideration of differen-
tials between competing localities rather than questions between indi-
viduals. -
Mr. HARLAN. As I say, our cases are becoming larger. Localities
are moving in a body to investigate their rates as compared with the
rates of other localities. We have had this fall several very important
cases of that kind. I have in mind one that was before us last week,
where the interior cities of California were questioning the reason-
ableness of their rates when compared with the lower rates to the
port towns of California. That was under the fourth section. We
have a great many cases of that general nature. t
Mr. SHERLEY. How far are you getting cases of this character
where, for instance, there are, say, two seaport towns, one north and
one south, just as an illustration, and questions come up as to the
rates that are made from some interior point of magnitude to, say,
Boston as against Baltimore or Philadelphia, or New York as against
Charleston, what might be called questions of differentials between
localities? * &
Mr. HARLAN. We have had very few of those cases on the Atlantic
coast. The differentials as between Boston and New York and Phil-
adelphia have long been settled. They were submitted to the com-
mission by agreement for arbitration about two years ago. That case
has been reported. We have had a few cases involving the South
Atlantic ports in which discriminations were alleged on cotton, for
example, from interior points. We have had some cases on the Pacific
coast. Seattle and Tacoma have been before us in regard to their
relation of rates. Then in southern California we have had Los
Angeles and Santa Barbara and Santa Rosa and San Diego before
is on the ground that one port got better rates than another. Two
308 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
or three years ago we had such a case between Texas City and Gal-
veston, and later between Texas City and Port Arthur, on the Gulf
coast; and we had a contest between Pensacola and Mobile. In all, I
should say we have had 10 or 12 such cases. They are not very numer-
ous and they come before us in a rather large aspect, so that when
they are once settled they remain settled. -
Mr. Chairman, the Secretary has already intimated that we may be
before you later in this month with an estimate for a deficiency ap-
propriation for the current year, and it is only proper to say that
while we put in an estimate for $925,000 for the ensuing year it is
altogether probable we shall ask before that year is over for a defi-
ciency appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you not think the railroads will behave so much
better, now that they have secured this increase of rates, that you will
not have to do as much work?
Mr. HARLAN. Perhaps one of the indications of their intention to
behave better is that they are coming to us with their troubles more
and more. -
The CHAIRMAN. In the statement filed with your estimate I notice
in 1914, under the heading of “Other expenses,” you expended
$141,838.32, and in the estimate for next year you figure on $45,500.
What is included under this heading “Other expenses”?
Mr. McGINTY. We are taking $50,000 for payment of outside coun-
sel from one column and putting it into another, and when the esti-
mate was made in the past it was extended rather to take care of the
possibilities, whereas in the present estimate we estimated to take care
more nearly of the actual expenses. The commission has not spent
any great amount of the $50,000 allowed for outside counsel, and it
does not propose to spend any great amount during the ensuing year
unless it becomes absolutely necessary.
Mr. GILLETT. Did I understand you to say you had not used any
of that $50,000 in the last year? d *
Mr. McGINTY. Only a small amount.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you mean by a small amount?
Mr. McGINTY. $11,500 has been the entire amount used.
EXAMINATION OF ACCOUNTS OF CARIRIERS.
The CHAIRMAN. “To further enable the Interstate Commerce
Commission to enforce compliance with section 20 of the act to regu-
Jate commerce as amended by the act approved June 29, 1906, in-
cluding the employment of necessary special agents or examiners.”
The appropriation is $300,000 and your estimate is $300,000.
What was your unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. GRAHAM. 1914 shows an unexpended balance of $4,234.57.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a permanent organization under this
authorization?
Mr. McGINTY. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How frequently do you make these investiga-
tions? What is the plan, followed ?
Mr. HARLAN. We have what are called general examinations, where
we go into all the accounts of a carrier; and we have special examina-
tions in which we go into particular accounts. Our division of car-
riers’ accounts does that work. It consists of about 109 examiners
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 309
and clerks, and they are constantly on the books of the carriers. We
have suboffices—one at Chicago, one at New York, one in San Fran-
cisco, one in Pittsburgh, one in St. Louis, and one in St. Paul. This
saves traveling expense and per diem charges. We made a large
saving last year by having those headquarters established. Those
examiners are constantly on the books of the carriers in one form or
another, and our theory is that wherever we come in contact with the
accounts of carriers we are carrying out the purposes of section 20.
The result of that work is made available to the commission in the
form of reports, and they are analyzed or taken up by way of criti-
cism with the carriers’ accountants, in order to get their accounts in
proper shape. That force is very actively engaged at all times on the
books of the carriers.
The CiſaIRMAN. You have established a uniform method of re-
ports? - & -
Mr. HARLAN. Yes. *
The CHAIRMAN. Have you also established a uniform method of
accounts? -
Mr. HARLAN. Oh, yes. The present system was inaugurated in
1907. Of course, it has been subject to growth, and it has been modi-
fied in various minor particulars from time to time.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any indication that the railroads are now
living up to the requirements of the various acts?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, Mr. Chairman; the commission has been much
gratified to find among the carriers a growing spirit of cooperation
with us in the keeping of their accounts. I think the railroads them-
Selves have found the value of a uniform system, so that, among
other things, they may compare their own results with the results
of other carriers operating under similar conditions; and I think
there is a general desire throughout the railroad World to cooperate
very cordially with the commission in the keeping of their accounts
in accordance with our rules and regulations. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Have you come to a fixed situation touching what
should be charged to operating expense and What to capital account,
or is that question still undergoing evolution?
Mr. HARLAN. If I gather your question, that is a matter that is
still in process of evolution, but pretty Well settled now.
Mr. SHERLEY. The reason for my inquiry was in part due to some
personal experience in the totally false showing that was made as
to conditions of railroads by virtue of charging to capital account
a great many items that should have gone to operating expense.
The result was they had a paper capital invested which was not a
real one, and they had a paper profit which did not exist. In other
Words, the roads were showing the earning of dividends and actually
paying dividends out of money that they were really borrowing, and
Only upon investigation does that become apparent. Now, one of
the abuses, or perhaps the chief abuse, aimed at was that particular
one. I wondered how far you had come to understanding it, because
there is a great deal of proper difference of opinion as to what should
go to operating expense and what should go to capital account.
Mr. HARLAN. Of course we have been very conscious of the defects
in the property accounts of the carriers, and that matter has been
mentioned in our investigation of the St. Paul accounts and is re-
ferred to in the Five Per Cent case in the original report and in the
310 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
recent report. But, answering your question in a general Way, we
understand perfectly that prior to 1907, when our uniform system
of accounts went into effect, the property accounts of carriers were
very unreliable and not at all dependable. Many carriers practi.
cally admit that. But since that time we think that the margin of
departure from proper accounting in that particular has been rela-
tively small. Of course we have not attempted to correct prior er-
rors. We simply insist upon a proper handling of those accounts
since the law went into effect; but whatever errors existed formerly
are still in existence.
Mr. SHERLEY. That would be checked up, of course, by the pro-
posed valuation of railroads. -
Mr. HARLAN. That would correct it; yes. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What I wanted to know was not only the dispo-
sition on the part of the railroads to obey the requirements, but
whether you have come to a fixed condition touching the require-
ments. There are a good many questions in dispute as to what
should be charged in one instance and the other. -
Mr. HARLAN. Our system was adopted after all those questions had
been thrashed out in conference with the State commissions and
with the railroads. e |
Mr. SHERLEY. And it has been maintained ever since practically
without change?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes. The only question that was long in dispute
after 1907 was the matter of depreciation on equipment, and we
are getting that question into shape at this time.
Mr. GILLETT. Returning to the question I asked you a moment
ago, would there be any objection to furnishing for the record a
statement of the amounts paid to outside counsel for the last year?
Mr. HARLAN. Not at all. But I can state the facts now. There
has only been one attorney, I believe, employed during that year.
That was Mr. Brandeis, who was employed in the Five Per Cent
case. For that work, extending through the year, he was paid
$11,500. This included his expenses. That has been our only ex-
pense for outside attorneys during the past year that I now recall.
The CHAIRMAN. One of the objects in having the Interstate Com-
merce Commission to examine into the accounts of carriers was to
prevent the juggling of accounts so as to cover up discriminations,
rebates, and other advantages given one shipper as against another.
Have those practices been eliminated in so far as they were deliberate
on the part of the carrier? .
Mr. HARLAN. We think they have been practically eliminated.
The old-fashioned form of paying rebates in cash, or through charg-
ing a less rate to a favored shipper than to a competing shipper, has
been practically eliminated, and We get very few cases of that kind.
The CHAIRMAN. How about the matter of superior facilities pro-
vided for one shipper over another in the same line of business?
Mr. HARLAN. We have had such contentions before us growing out
of car shortages, when the traffic was moving in such large volume
that the carrier's were not able to take care of it promptly and com-
plaints have been made that one shipper was getting more than his
percentage of the cars. We have had a number of complaints of that
kind from the coal fields. The coal equipment of the carriers is
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 311
usually less than the amount necessary to move the “peak” of the
coal output, and we have had cases where one man would claim that
another man got more than his share of cars; but we have adjusted
much of that trouble by requiring carriers to adopt and publish cer-
tain definite rules for the distribution of their coal cars. I do not
think there is much complaint now of discrimination in that form.
We have relatively few cases of that kind at this time. If rebates
are paid at all at this time it is done in the form of discriminatory
rates or in allowances of one kind or another to shippers with private
railroads or other facilities. I think that we all agree that the old-
fashioned form of rebate is practically eliminated. That has come
about largely through the severe fines that the courts have assessed
in particular cases and because we follow these things very closely
in the accounts. Rebates now occur often in the form of preferences
under published tariffs. The Secretary suggests another form of
paying rebates—and I have no doubt it exists—namely, in the pay-
ment of claims. For instance, there will be a shipment of wheat
and the shipper will set up the claim that some wheat has leaked out
of the car in transit and that the car was not in proper condition for
the shipment. There are also a vast number of claims for damage
to goods in transit, Some of which are excessive and some altogether
fraudulent. That method of paying rebates is doubtless used to
some extent. For a year or more we have been looking into those
matters, and while I do not think that we have completely elimi-
nated rebates in that form, they have been minimized both in
number and amounts. They are difficult to get at-difficult for us,
and often difficult for the carrier. During the past year all carriers
have reported their claims to us; we have had that done for two pur-
poses—first, to ascertain how promptly carriers paid their claims;
and, second, to ascertain what causes gave rise to the claims. There
was great complaint by shippers that their claims were not being
paid promptly but were held up for months. We undertook this
investigation for the purpose, among other things, of seeing what
were the causes of the delay in the payment of claims. That work
is partly completed.
Mr. SHERLEY. Has your attention been called to the inequity ex-
isting touching the statute of limitations relating to claims as be-
tween the shipper and the railroad company?
Mr. HARLAN. What kind of claims have you in mind?
Mr. SHERLEY. I have in mind this, that where a claim comes in for
an excess payment and becomes known by virtue of some action taken
touching the rate, the shipper’s right to get that claim allowed is
barred practically by virtue of a sort of statute of limitations de-
vised by the railroad company. I have not in mind the statute in
detail closely enough to speak with more accuracy than that, but I
think my general statement is true.
Mr. HARLAN. Where the carrier has collected more than the au-
thorized rate, say, 60 cents instead of 50 cents, we have held that that
being an overcharge the carrier is under the duty of refunding it.
The statute is not altogether satisfactory in regard to the time limited
for filing complaints before us, and we speak of it in our report.
Mr. SHERLEY. I have not seen the report for this year.
Mr. HARLAN. It is spoken of in one of the previous reports.
312 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. SHERLEY. I have heard of 'complaints arising of that kind.
Now, reverting for a moment to another matter that was touched on,
what sort of adjustments are you making of complaints touching the
exchange of facilities by carriers with each other, as, for, instance,
the transfer of freight and the use of facilities belonging to one rail-
road by another railroad, or by shippers generally when the shippers
have that right? I find that there are more complaints among the
public touching those things, whether Weil founded or not, than
almost any other. -
Mr. HARLAN. We had very few complaints last year of that kind—
that is, of the denial by a carrier to another carrier of the use of its
facilities. { \ -
Mr. SHERLEY. For instance, the Louisville & Nashville Railroad
declines to enter into complete reciprocal relations with other rail-
road companies at various terminals touching the transshipment of
freight, the exchange of cars, etc.? -
Mr. HARLAN. Well, we have had two Louisville & Nashville cases
recently. One complaint was from Mobile, where it declined the use
of its docks to ships that did not belong to certain companies. We
adjusted that by holding that those docks were public facilities and
must be opened to all ships under like conditions. Then, we had a
case wherein the Louisville & Nashville refused to check baggage
through to a small summer resort on another line in Tennessee.
They refused to sell through tickets and check baggage through, but
I do not recall any other complaints of that nature against the Louis-
ville & Nashville during the last year. vº
Mr. SHERLEY. I do not know that they have reached the point
of complaints. I may be misinformed but my understanding is that
the Southern Railway, for instance, does not have complete recipro-
cal arrangements with the Louisville & Nashville touching the
handling and disposition of cars, I think, at Atlanta, because the
Louisville & Nashville does not afford complete facilities at Louis-
ville.
Mr. HARLAN. I see the point in your mind a little more clearly
than I did before. We have had some cases where roads have tried
to so arrange their rates, etc., to divert their traffic to a preferred
connecting line, but those matters are usually fought out among the
carriers themselves. They do not always affect the shippers to the
extent of giving the shippers grounds for coming to us.
Mr. SHERLEY. I do not know whether the shippers have come to
you, but the fact that they are very materially affected is one of the
things that I am constantly hearing, and that is one of the things
that some of the boards of trade have been somewhat stirred up over.
Of course the contention of the railroad is that they, having pre-
pared at great expense certain facilities, should not be required to
give to competitors the use of them, but that does not again fully
consider the public viewpoint. §
Mr. HARLAN. As you know, there has been a change in the law
in that respect. One of the changes provides practically that there
must be through routes and rates over all lines, and the other change
gives the shipper the right to route his shipments. Since that time we
have had very few formal cases involving the questions you speak of.
ŠUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 313
..&
Mr. SHERLY. I understand, but the trouble comes when the shipper
is unable to route his freight. It is routed, but routed the wrong
Way. The shipper simply goes up against those invisible obstacles
that delay and hamper him and he gives up in despair.
Mr. HARLAN. We have had a few cases where a railroad not having
adequate terminal facilities at a given point comes to us with the
complaint that another line denies it the use of its terminal facilities
at that point. The tendency of the commission in recent cases has
been to open terminal facilities of all lines to the use of shippers at
reasonable rates. We have had relatively few cases involving that
general question.
Mr. SHERLEY. That brings up another matter that I would like
to ask you about : Has the commission ever undertaken to consider
the question of the physical connection of railroads touching pas-
senger traffic? There are a number of cities in America where there
are several different stations and where the railroads have traffic
arrangements with some other railroads. For instance, Buffalo,
N. Y., is a conspicuous example of that. There are three railroads
there, the Lehigh Valley, the New York Central, and the Erie, and
they actually touch each other. Yet there are three separate pas-
senger stations at Buffalo. The New York Central Railroad works
in connection with the Canadian Pacific, and the Lehigh Valley, 1
think, connects with the Grand Trunk, although I may be mistaken
about that. When a passenger comes into Buffalo over one of those
roads and desires to go out over a road other than the one with
which that particular road has a connection, he frequently finds him-
Self unable to effect a transfer of his baggage, and he also experi-
ences a great deal of inconvenience in going from one station to
another. He is also subjected to great inconvenience in the matter
of time schedules, which are nearly always so arranged as to force
a continuation of travel by the passenger over the line that the road
by which he enters has an agreement with. Have you ever gone
into that question and considered whether it lay within your field?
Mr. HARLAN. In very few cases. One of our cases involved the
through checking of trunks, where the passenger presented a mile-
age ticket to One point. On his journey and a regular ticket beyond
Mr. SHERLEY (interposing.) I do not mean cases that have come
before you, because usually the individual can not afford to bring
a case; but there is a great deal of annoyance to the traveling pub-
lic due to the fact that railroads arrange their schedules so as to
compel travel by the passenger along certain lines. When the pas-
senger runs up against that inconvenience he is not likely to bring
a Suit, because, so far as he is concerned, the evil has happened and
is behind him. I want to know whether the commission has gone
into that question, and also into the question of requiring the physi-
cal connection of railroads in cities?
Mr. HARLAN. No, sir; we have nothing to do with time schedules.
Mr. SHERLEY. I can see that there is a right inviting field there.
I can say that from personal experience, having traveled over the
Country a good deal. ~ g
Mr. HARLAN. I do not recall at the moment any case where we
have been asked to consider the time cards either of passenger or of
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freight trains. The schedule of trains is something within the
domain of physical operation of roads, and that We do not deal with
under our act. ſº
Mr. SHERLEY. But that is just the point. Here is a situation
where the individual never has a sufficient estate to Warrant him in
bringing action, yet it is something in which the public as a whole
has a very proper interest in seeing that the schedules are arranged
so as not to simply serve as feeders for the railroads, but for the ac-
commodation of the traveling public. •
Mr. HARLAN. We have never had a case of that kind.
The CHAIRMAN. Under this heading, in addition to the various
positions which are set out, you state that you expended for other
expenses $107,421.74; can’t you file a statement showing how that
money was spent? * \
Mr. GRAHAM. That statement is made up to show the amount of
salaries and the total for other expenses.
The CHAIRMAN. Can’t you segregate the item of “other ex-
penses”? -
Mr. GRAHAM. Yes, sir. That is as follows: Traveling expenses,
$98,770.33; communication, which includes telegraph and telephone
service, $823.59; for services other than personal, $308.76; material,
$18.84; stationary, $977.87; supplies, $188.91; office furniture,
$2,326.08—a large amount of that is occasioned by the equipping of
district offices throughout the country; for mechanical office equip-
ment, $1,248.50; other equipment, $628.93; and rents, $2,375.14.
Mr. HARLAN. What is the total?
Mr. GRAHAM. The total is $107,666.95.
The CHAIRMAN. The great bulk of that is traveling expenses?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir. -
- INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION,
W(tShington, January 6, 1915.

IIOn. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committce on Appropriations,
- FIouse of Representatives.
MY DEAR MR. FITZGERALD : Complying with your request at the hearing of
representatives of the Interstate Commerce Commission before your committee
on Monday, the 4th instant, for a statement by months during the period of
July 1 to HDecember 31, 1914, of actual expenditures and encumbrances of our
general appropriation, , I submit the following:
Siſtic, ent of general appropriations for first half of fiscal year 1915.
Actual ex-
Pro rata penditures | Surplus or
allotments. and encum- deficiency.
brances.
July. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------------------------- $75,833.33 $73, 624.75 $2,208.58
August . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------------- 75,833.33 77,498.40 1 1,665.07
September. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------------- 75,833. 34 || 77,792. 79 1 1,959.45
October. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------------------- 75,833.33 85,228.70 1 9,395.37
November. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------------------------- 75,833.33 89,466.22 || 1 13,632.89
December. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------------------------- 75,833.34 || 2 87,580. 11 || 1 11,746.77
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------------------------------- 455,000.00 || 491, 190.97 1 36,190.97
1 Deficiency. e
2 December traveling expenses and
* e e
stenographic services estimated.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 315
Permit us also to embody herein a detailed statement by Office or division Of
employees and salaries on December 31, 1914, as compared with December 31,
1913, on basis of which the annual salaries and increases are indicated, as
follows: -
Statement of employees and salaries.

Number. Annual salaries.
Division. I)ec. 31— Dec. 31–
Increase. - Increase.
1913 | 1914 1913 1914
|
Commissioner's office.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 14 I 1 || $26,400 $24,020 1 $2,380
Secretary’s Office---------------------------------- 10 12 2 16,600 20,020 3,420
Chief examiner------------------------------------ 27 48 21 69,480 | 1.46,600 77,120
Disbursements and accounts. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 9 1 12,960 13,260 | 300
Tariffs. ------------------------------------------- 104 || 120 16 || 154, 260 | 181, 140 26,880
Statistics-----------------------------------... s. s is e s = ºr 86 81 1 5 122,420 119, 120 1 3,300
Tourth Section board...... -------------------...-- 9 11 2 15,840 19,500 3,660
Inquiry------------------------------------------- 13 19 6 25,740 41,780 16,040
Low----------------------------------------------- 6 3 12,020 22, 140 10, 120
Claims. ... ---------------------------------------- 13 15 2 18,480 21, 540 3,060
Correspondence----------------------------------- 11 11 ---------- 16, 200 16,920 720
Pockets------------------------------------------- 24 |. 24 |- - - - - - - - - - 24,000 25, 140 1,140
Mails and files------------------------------------- 38 39 1. 34, 440 35,280 8-|U
Stenography-------------------------------------. 46 56 I () 47,820 5S, 560 10,740
Supplies------------------------------------------- 37 3S } 19,560 20, 640 1,080
Printing section----------------------------------. 3 3 |---------. 4,500 4,500 |- - - - -* - - - - -
Document Section.... ----------------------------. 4 4 ---------- 3,300 3,780 480
Inºices-------------------------------------------- 7 9 2 8, 400 9,600 1,200
library------------------------------------------- 3 2 1 1 4, 140 2,760 1 1,380
Total.--------------------------------------- 461 || 521 60 | 636,560 | 786,300 149, 740
1 Decrease.
Yours, very truly, -
j JAMES S. HARLAN, Chairman.
SAIFETY ON RAILROADS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “To enable the Interstate Com-
merce Commission to keep informed regarding and to force compli-
ance with acts to promote the safety of employees and travelers upon
railroads, including the employment of inspectors.” The current ap-
propriation is $245,000 and you are asking for $245,000. Now, this
is the first year you have been working under this consolidation, and
-I see that you are suggesting that we eliminate certain language from
this provision. You are asking us to drop out the following lan-
gllage : ,
The act requiring common carriers to make reports of accidents and authoriz-
ing investigations thereof; and to enable the Interstate Commerce Commission
to investigate and test block-signal and train-control Systems and appliances in-
tended to promote the Safety of railway operation, as authorized by the joint
resolution approved June 30, 1906, and the provision of the Sundry civil act
approved May 27, 1908. §
Mr. McGINTY. The reason for not putting that in was that under
this consolidation all matters of safety would come under this one
appropriation and would be taken care of by our one division of
Safety. However, there is no objection to leaving it in. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Under the act conferring this power, do you have
jurisdiction over the sanitation of trains?
316 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. McGINTY. That probably is under the Public Health Service
of the Treasury Department.
Mr. HARLAN. We have had one such complaint during the past
year, but we have not felt authorized under the law to take any action.
The health authorities have general control -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Have you during the past year had
any applications to investigate or test block-signal systems or train-
control systems?
Mr. McGINTY. Yes, sir. During the year, up to October 1, 1914,
plans of 315 devices were presented to the commission for considera-
tion. -
The CHAIRMAN. During what period?
Mr. McGINTY. From January 1 to October 1 of this year. Of this
number 284 have been examined and opinions regarding the devices
transmitted to the proprietors. Of the number of plans examined,
131 of the devices disclosed were so impracticable and crude that they
were considered practically worthless; 12 of them possessed merito-
rious features, but, as a whole, required further development to enti-
tle “them to serious consideration; 19 were found to disclose devices
which were not intended primarily to increase safety and which
would not effect safety of railroad operation sufficiently to warrant
further consideration being given them in these investigations; 22
disclosed devices that were considered to possess merit from the
standpoint of safety, and experimental tests of certain of these latter
devices are desirable to determine their practical utility, and several
experimental tests have been made on the lines of railroads, and the
commission is now preparing a report to the Congress, which report
will give in detail everything that has been done in this connection.
Mr. SHERLEY. I would like to ask if you permit the use of the
old-fashioned open stoves on passenger trains now %
Mr. HARLAN. I have not understood that the commission has any-
thing to do with such matters as that. *
Mr. SHERLEY. In that connection I want to read to you the lan-
guage of the item—“to promote the safety of employees and travel-
ers upon railroads.” I do not know of anything that could perhaps
more directly and vitally affect the safety of travelers upon railroads
than these old-fashioned open stoves in case of a wreck.
Mr. HARLAN. You have left out two words, Mr. Sherley—“to en-
force compliance with acts to promote the safety of employees and
travelers upon railroads.” Under the terms of these acts we have
not considered that questions regarding open stoves in passenger
car's could come before us. -
Mr. STIERLEY. Am I to understand that the commission does not
think it has jurisdiction? g
Mr. HARLAN. I will put my reply a little differently. If you will
look at those acts you will see that they relate largely to specific ques-
tions and state what our powers are. Apparently no one has ever
thought that our powers under those acts extended to such matters
as you have just suggested. .
Mr. SHERLEY. I have not examined the acts with that in mind, but
it strikes me if your jurisdiction is limited to certain questions with
regard to safety that the authority had better be eliminated or the
acts broadened so as to give you real jurisdiction. -
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Mr. HARLAN. The first act in this pamphlet is entitled “Safety-
Appliance Act,” and it specifically refers to brakes and matters of
that kind. Then we have the hours-of-service act. I do not recall
any act that in its terms touches the question of stoves or heating
apparatus in passenger cars.
Mr. SHERLEY. That is just one thing which can occur to a man and
which would be important? -
'Mr. HARLAN. I appreciate that.
POILER-IN SPECTION SERVICE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For all authorized expendi-
tures under the provisions of the act of February 17, 1911, to pro-
mote the Safety of employees and travelers upon railroads by com-
pelling common carrier's engaged in interstate commerce to equip
their locomotives with safe and suitable boilers and appurtenances
thereto,” etc., and the appropriation is $220,000 and your estimate is
$220.000. What was your unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. GRAHAM. $17,612.06.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that about the rate of expenditure or have
you increased this year?
Mr. GRAHAM. There was an increase of 2.2 per cent over the pre-
ceding year 1913, and in 1913 there was an increase of 32.2 per cent
Over 1912. -
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any diminution in the number of
boiler explosions as a result of these inspections?
Mr. McGINTY. Yes, sir. •
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the result of this work which
has been going on for nearly four years?
Mr. McGINTY. The number of locomotives inspected during 1914
was 92,716; the number found defective, 49,137; the percentage found
defective, 52.9 per cent; and the number ordered out of service,
3,365. . -
Mr. HARLAN. May I interrupt' These same figures show that in
1912 the percentage of locomotives found defective was 65.7; in 1913,
60.3; and in 1914, 52.9. It seems to indicate a betterment of condi-
tions, and the probability that accidents are occurring less frequently
because of our inspections.
The CHAIRMAN. Although still very bad?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. What was the proportion of those found defective
and put out of commission ? I notice it was 3,000 last year.
Mr. HARLAN. In 1912 three thousand three hundred and odd loco-
motives were ordered out of service; in 1913, more than 4,600; and
in 1914, more than 3,300.
Mr. SHERLEY. In that connection, there is pending in Congress
a bill to give you jurisdiction not only over the boiler but over the
entire locomotive. That bill will probably be enacted into law.
What effect is that going to have on the expense of this work?
Mr. HARLAN. The locomotive tender. The same inspectors, we
think, with the expenditure of some additional time will be able to
make those investigations. That is, in looking at the boiler they can
also look at other parts of the locomotive and tender.
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The CHAIRMAN. Will they be competent to do that?
Mr. HARLAN. We have thought generally they would be.
The CHAIRMAN. They can do that very much larger inspection
without a very considerable increase?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes. Without a very considerable increase in travel-
ing expenses and maintenance, and without a great increase in the
number of inspectors.
The CHAIRMAN. In what condition must a locomotive be before it
is ordered out of service? -
Air. HARLAN. Mr. Chairman, that is a question that I can not
answer. Our inspectors could tell you. -
The CHAIRMAN. How has the number of accidents compared in
these years?
Mr. HARLAN. In 1912 the number of accidents that got on our
records was 856; in 1913, 820; and in 1914 the number was 555;
1914 showed a decrease of 32.3 per cent in accidents over those for
1913.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 there was a very perceptible reduction in
the number of accidents? -
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir. The number killed in 1912 was 91; in 1913,
36; and in 1914, 23. The number injured in 1912 was 1,005; 1913,
911; and 1914, 614. Those figures seem to show that our work has
been beneficial. *
Mr. MONDELL. To what extent has the reduced number of trains in
1914 tended to reduce the number of accidents? -
Mr. HARLAN. The reduction in the number of passenger trains you
have in mind occurred, according to my information, since this cur-
rent year commenced, so that the figures are not yet available.
Mr. SHERLEY. There has been more reduction in the number of pas-
sengers carried than in the number of trains? \
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir; I presume so; but, as a matter of fact, those
reductions have taken place since the 1st of July, very largely.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it the opinion of the commission that it is ad-
visable to extend the inspection to the other portions of the locomo-
tive and tender?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir; we went over that with a great deal of care
and thought that it was an advantageous thing to do.
The CHAIRMAN. In connection with the pending bill? -
Mr. HARLAN. In connection with the pending bill; yes, sir. The
pending bill had consideration in conference, and my recollection is
that it was somewhat modified by the commission; in its present
form it has had the approval of the commission. They think it a
desirable thing. - - w
The CHAIRMAN. Do you think that the increased inspection will
tend to reduce the number of accidents? .--
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir. I think we all feel that it will be a helpful
measure and bring results.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any resistance on the part of the railroads
to the enforcing of the law Ż -
Mr. HARLAN. No. We have had occasional complaints by carriers
that our inspectors are too strict.
The CHAIRMAN. That is rather a good complaint?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir; that is rather a good sort of complaint.
They have not been made very frequently, but we have had such com-
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plaints. We have had cases, for instance, where an inspector ordered
a locomotive immediately out of the service so that it was not per-
mitted to haul the train 4 or 5 miles to a repair point. That kind of
strictness has been complained of. The same way with cars. They
have been ordered out of service where the railroad people thought
they could be hauled without danger to the next repair point. We
have had complaints of strictness in those particulars, but no other
complaints that I recall. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you compile statistis showing the accidents that
occur outside of those resulting from collisions or derailment or some
injury to the train; in other words, a man is run over at a street
crossing? -
Mr. HARLAN. I think under the law the carriers are required to
report all those things to us and we have regular annual statistics on
those questions. Of course, as you know, in case of a serious accident
we investigate.
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand; but what I had in mind was the com-
monplace killing of people. r -
Mr. HARLAN. In the annual report for 1914, at page 100, are the
statistics for the year ending June 30, 1914, which seem to cover all
accidents. The totals are somewhat large. The grand totals show
that there were killed during 1914, 10,302 persons, and in 1913, 10,964.
There were injured during 1914, 192,662, and in 1913, 200,308. Those
were accidents on the steam railways. The electric railway accidents
are shown separately. The figures differ a little on electric lines.
The figures for 1914 are slightly in excess of those for 1913, but on
the steam lines there was a small percentage of improvement when
the two years are compared.
Mr. GILLETT. As Mr. Mondell suggested, there was probably less
traffic in 1914 than in 1913?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir. Following page 100 in our annual report
are other statistics, in which we attempt to analyze the causes of
these accidents. e
Mr. GILLETT. I notice that somewhat more than half of the
$200,000 is spent for salaries and $85,000 for other expenses. In
general, for what kind of other expenses is the money spent?
Mr. GRAHAM. We will give you a statement of all the expenses.
Traveling expenses, communication, Services other than personal,
materials, stationery supplies, office furniture, mechanical office
equipment, rent, and other equipment, $85,166.16.
Mr. HARLAN. The per diem and expense of travel are a very im-
portant part. -
Mr. GILLETT. What do you mean by the per diem!
Mr. HARLAN. The per diem charge covers their hotel bills.
Mr. GILLETT. You mean sustenance? -
Mr. HARLAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. McGINTY. We will leave this statement with you.
Mr. MoRDELL. Judge, do you assume that you have any authority
with regard to the speed of trians? -
Mr. HARLAN. No; we have never understood that we had.
Mr. MoRDELL. You have never made any effort to regulate the
Speed of trains? - -
Mr. HARLAN. No ; I assume, expressing my thought at the moment,
that in case of discrimination against one community in favor of
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another in the matter of fast trains given to one and denied to the
other, We might consider that we had jurisdiction; but on the general
question we have not thought so.
Mr. MoRDELL. What I had in mind was the speed of trains as it
affects the Safety of passengers. It has developed that with the
increase of the weight of the cars, and therefore the weight of the
trains, the use of steel coaches, there is greater danger of accident
unless the rail is correspondingly strengthened, in the running of
fast trains than in the running of trains at moderate speed. You
have never assumed any authority to control in that matter?
Ajr. HARLAN. Not to control; but in our investigations of accidents
we have frequently found that speed had some relation to the acci-
dent, and we have criticized the carriers on that ground, but we have
not assumed that we had any general power to control the speed of
railroad trains.
Mr. SHERLEY. You do have jurisdiction to require automatic
brakes, which bear a relationship to the speed and weight of the
trains?
Mr. HARLAN. We have certain standards in those matters under
the law, and we compel compliance with those standards.
Mr. SHERLEY. The standards are dependent somewhat on both
speed and weight?
Mr. HARLAN. Yes; sir; T assume we do make a difference in our
standards according to the character of the equipment. -
Mr. Chairman, on this question of taking in the inspection of
tenders and other parts of locomotives it may be of interest to you
to know that in his third annual report the chief of our locomotive-
boiler inspection division shows that during the last year his in-
spectors found 2,141 locomotives defective in respect to matters for
which the present laws do not provide a remedy; of these, 1,155 had
defective wheels. I refer to this because it illustrates the statement
I have made that our locomotive-boiler inspectors can very readily
look at the whole machine and the tender and ascertain what other
defects may exist.
The CHAIRMAN. Were those serious defects? -
Mr. HARLAN. The report does not indicate. It simply indicates
that our inspectors found those defects and reported them to the
railroad authorities. -
The CHAIRMAN. Although they were not required to do so?
Mr. HARLAN. Although under the law they were not required to
do so; and almost one-half of these were cases of defective, wheels.
The CHAIRMAN. My attention has been called to the fact that the
claim has been made that the men now engaged in making the boiler
inspections have not had the necessary mechanical training and
skill to make these investigations, and that it would require a sepa-
rate force of men. Can you state, from your information, whether
it is necessary to have a separate force to do this work?
Mr. HARLAN. Mr. Chairman, I would a little prefer to advise my-
self more fully on that point and make you a statement in writing.
I have been under the general impression that the addition to our
force would not be considerable if the proposed bill should pass.
Of course, we will need some additional clerks to keep the additional
records. It may be the Suggestion you make may prove to be the
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case, but I have been under the impression that it would not require
a very large additional force. º -
Mr. MoRDELL. In any event it would not be necessary to have two
separate forces?
Mr. HARLAN. That is our view—that it could all be done under
this one division. -
Mr. MonpELL. The men qualified to inspect the boilers have suffi-
cient knowledge of the working parts of an engine to be able to
inspect the engine as a whole? -
Mr. HARLAN. The Secretary tells me that our present force of in-
spectors under the locomotive-boiler act consists entirely of trained
men who have been sufficiently skilled to perform the entire inspec-
tion. I assume from that that the commission’s impression has been
that they would also be able to look at all parts of the locomotive
and the tender. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Your inspectors are not merely boiler makers an
men with technical knowledge of boilers, but men with a general
knowledge of locomotives?
Mr. HARLAN. And how to run them, all the parts of a locomotive.
Mr. McGINTY. I discussed this particular bill with our chief in-
spector of boilers, who said that he would not need any addi-
tional force whatsoever to take care of the additional inspections,
unless perhaps some additional clerical assistance should be neces-
sary in the offices of the district inspectors, so that they could spend
more time on the road, whereas at present the majority of inspectors
consume a week or more of each month in office work, checking
reports, etc.
VALUATION OF CARRIERS.
[See p. 940.]
The CHAIRMAN. You have had altogether about $2,400,000?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And you are asking for next year $3,000,000?
Mr. PROUTY. The commission has asked for $3,000,000. I asked
for $3,500,000. When I was here a year ago, touching an appropria-
tion for the present fiscal year, I said to you gentlemen that while
the commission had asked for $2,000,000, in my judgment, if the
work was developed up to the proper point and prosecuted in an
economical way, it would require $2,500,000. You appropriated
$1,900,000. You appropriated $2,000,000, but you made $100,000 of
it apply to the previous year in lieu of a deficiency appropriation.
Now it has turned out exactly as I expected. We are spending
to-day at the rate of $2,000,000, but if we develop the work as we
should for the next six months, an additional five or six hundred
thousand dollars will be required.
The CHAIRMAN. For the balance of this fiscal year?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes. - e
The CHAIRMAN. Are you asking for that in a deficiency or are
you going to ask for it here? e *
Mr. Prouty. I understand the commission has voted to ask for
$400,000 in the way of a deficiency appropriation. -
The CHAIRMAN. The understanding was that the money would
be appropriated as rapidly as you could do the work.
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Mr. PROUTY. The situation, Mr. Chairman, is this: At the present
time we have five districts and we have in the field in each district
eight road and track parties. The road and track party is the party
that goes over the railroad, measures the embankment, inventories
the property with the exception of structures of considerable size;
bridges more than 20 feet in length, buildings, etc., are inventoried
by another party; but the road and track party takes an inventory
and measures the quantities and therefore sets the pace at which the
work is to proceed. The eight road and track parties which we have.
began work on the 1st of September; that is, we developed up to that
point, so that on September 1 we began work with eight parties in
every district. In the month of December we covered about 1,500
miles; in the month of October we covered 1,800 miles; in the month
of November, owing to various causes, but principally inclement
weather, we fell back to between 1,500 and 1,600 miles. I am satis-
fied that eight parties in each district, 40 parties in all, can cover
approximately 24,000 miles a year, about 2,000 miles a month. -
Now, we are spending at the rate of $2,000,000 a year; $2,000,000
a year, with perhaps Some slight addition, because our land work is
not fully developed yet, will carry all parts of the work along at the
same pace; that is to Say, would cover approximately from 20,000 to
25,000 miles of railroad a year. Of that $2,000,000, over $500,000 is
what may be termed overhead expense, and that expense would not
be increased if you doubled the number of our parties; and it has
always been my belief that we should conduct this work at the rate
of about 50,000 a year; that is to Say, We should practically clean up
the work between July 1 next and July 1 four years later.
Mº, GILLETT. When you say miles, do you mean miles of single
track' *
Mr. PROUTY. Miles of single track. There are about 250,000 miles
of single track in this country and you must add about 1 mile of side
track and additional track for every mile of single track in order to
know how many miles of railroad in all there are. Our Surveys in
September, October, and November just about maintained that rela-
tion; that is to say, we surveyed of all tracks about one-half more
than we did of first track.
Mr. GILLETT. Let me make sure that I understand you. . As I
understand, you do about 1,200 miles of single track and in addition
about half as much more?
Mr. PROUTY. We did in September, for example, 1,500 miles of
first track and we did between 2,200 and 2,300 miles of all track,
and that is about the proportion which exists in this country.
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any intimation from the railroads
that in view of existing conditions they would be as well satisfied
if you slowed up a trifle in your work?
Mr. PROUTY. No; I have received no intimations from the rail-
roads to that effect. The intimations that we get from the railroads
come mostly through the press. They get Something into the news-
papers and mark the copy and send it to me. That is the only infor-
mation I get. There is a presidents’ committee which represents
practically all the railroads in this country, and the Secretary of that
committee is Mr. Hume, and I see him every Monday and come in
very close contact with him. Mr. Hume has not intimated to me he
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thought we ought to slow up on the work because he knows pretty
well we can not slow up. If this work is to be economically done
you either would have to stop altogether and begin all over again
or else go ahead with it. You can not afford to do this work at
any halfway pace.
The CHAIRMAN. The railroads themselves are necessarily doing a
Very large amount of work as a result of this valuation work?
Mr. PROUTY. They are doing more talking than they are work up
to the present time, but some of them have done a good deal of work.
The Boston & Maine road, for example, which is poor and can not
afford it, has been obliged to do a great deal of work and is laying
out a great deal of money. They had no maps at all. They had no
records at all.
Mr. GILLETT. How much does it cost them relative to your cost?
Mr. PROUTY. One hundred dollars a mile. The Boston & Maine
road has laid out—at least they furnished me those figures and I
have no doubt they are correct—approximately $100 a mile on one-
half of its system up to the present time, and in order to complete
the work it will cost $100 a mile on the balance of the system.
Mr. GILLETT. How much does it cost you a mile? -
Mr. PROUTY. It will cost us about half that. But the Boston &
Maine is peculiarly situated. The Boston & Maine had no maps at
all and had no records at all. It is a very old road and it had to
dig down to the very bottom of things and get the best information
it could. * :
The CHAIRMAN. I have heard it suggested that you are making it
very difficult for the roads by compelling them to prepare complete
maps of a uniform character, whereas if you would accept maps on
varying scales it would not be nearly so expensive.
Mr. PROUTY. We do accept maps on varying scales. We prescribe
a certain scale. We prescribe a certain scale for the ordinary road
and track map and a different scale for the station map where the
tracks are thicker and have to be shown in greater detail. But we
accept maps on any scale provided the maps will show the informa-
tion which we must have. For example, we have just accepted the
maps of the Southern Pacific, which are on a scale four times as
large as the ordinary Scale. Ordinarily we have 1 mile of railroad.
on each sheet. Now we allow them to put 4 miles of railroad on
each sheet. -
The CHAIRMAN. So long as it contains the data you must have?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes; out in those desert countries you can show 4
or even 8 or 10 miles on a sheet, and we accept whatever map they
have, provided it shows the information we must have.
The CHAIRMAN. You have five divisions in your organization?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir; five districts.
The CHAIRMAN. And you have field parties now at work?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir; eight in each district.
The CHAIRMAN. And you estimate it will take you how long from
the 1st of next July to complete the field work? -
Mr. PROUTY. That depends on how much money you give us.
The CHAIRMAN. Assuming we give you all the money you ask?
Mr. PROUTY. Then I estimate we will do our surveying work in
about four years from the 1st of next July; that is, if the work is
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done in the most economical Way it will be covered in about four
years from the 1st of next July. - -
Mr. GILLETT. At the rate of $2,500,000 a year?
Mr. PROUTY. No; at the rate of $3,500,000 a year. While the com-
mission has asked for $3,000,000 this year, I want to say to you
gentlemen, now, as I did a year ago, in order to conduct the work
economically it will require $3,500,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You will know the absolute necessity next De-
cember, and We can give you that additional half a million dollars
then.
Mr. PROUTY. It will be perfectly satisfactory if it is done in that
way.
The CHAIRMAN. We have done that so far.
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir.
The CIIAIRMAN. There has been some question raised as to whether
we have given the commission as much as it could use. My recollec-
tion is we have given you the money just as rapidly as you could
use it. -
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir; up to the present time that is true. If you
appropriate $3,000,000 now, it will result in our coming back here in
a year from now for a deficiency appropriation of from $500,000 to
$700,000, if we go ahead as we ought to, just as we shall be back here
for a deficiency appropriation of $500,000.
Mr. GILLETT. You think you can finish the work in four years at
that rate?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. That is the field work only.
Mr. PROUTY. There will be a lag at first between the field work and
the final appraisal of the railroads, because there are certain funda-
mental questions that have to be determined before we can put the
valuation on a railroad. For example, you have got to determine the
amount to be allowed for engineering; you have got to determine the
interest charge; you have got to determine a great many of those pre-
liminary questions. The valuation division does not have anything
to do with that. It will take the commision a year or two before they
determine those questions; but when they are once determined, then,
as soon as we get our surveys completed, there is no reason why we
should not apply prices and overhead charges and give the Valuation.
The C11AIRMAN. Judge, it was suggested to me that from the stand-
point of the railroad, and perhaps from everybody’s Standpoint, there
was one omission in the present law that perhaps should be supplied,
and that is that a great many questions will be raised during the
progress of the work which if they could be authoritatively deter-
mined by some one before the work was completed would make the
valuation of much greater value. For instance, the railroads can not
'aise such questions until they get into court on a rate fixed on the
valuation, while if some of these intermediate questions could be de-
termined before you have gone too far we might Save time and make
the work more effective. .
Mr. PROUTY. I have expressed that opinion myself and I think
that is so. While the railroad may raise the question before the
commission when the tentative valuation is filed, it can not raise
the question before the courts until that valuation is used in a rate
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case, and it is quite possible we might proceed upon some wrong
theory and never know it until the valuation work was entirely com-
pleted. Therefore I have thought if any way could be devised—I
do not know whether one could be or not—so that the railroad might
raise those questions as we went along and get the opinion of the
court it would be very helpful. \
The CHAIRMAN. It would obviate a lot of work being done again
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. Unless the finding of the commission could be
conclusive? -
Mr. PROUTY. Well, you can not make the finding of the commis-
sion conclusive without giving the railroad a chance to be heard.
I think you can say that the railroads shall have an opportunity to
be heard, and that after hearing the determination of the commis-
sion of the questions of fact shall be conclusive. But, then, Mr.
Harlan's opinion about that would be worth more than mine. I have
thought that should be done. What I am trying to do in getting
together the quantities and the inventory and all that is to so coop-
erate with the railroads as we go along that there never can be any
question but what those are correct so that we start out—if we ever
get this valuation done—with a virtual admission by the railroad
that the quantities are correct. Of course, prices will change. They
vary from year to year, and they will vary one five years with an-
other five years, but the quantities should be determined once for all
and we should know precisely what the railroads have.
The CHAIRMAN. Are the railroads cooperating freely in that part
of the Work?
Mr. PROUTY. I think they are. Up to the present time I have had
no fault to find. -
Mr. GILLETT. You said you thought it would be well if certain
questions could be brought before the court as you go along; can you
think of any way that could be brought about?
Mr. PROUTY. I have not given that sufficient consideration so that
I would like to express an opinion. I do not know that it could be
made a judicial question that the court could take cognizance of until
the valuation was completed and used in a rate case. I do not know
that that could be done. It has occurred to me it might be done.
Mr. SITERLEY. Suppose you give it some thought before you come
to revise your notes and then submit any suggestions you may have
touching the matter.
Mr. PROUTY. I would be glad to do that, but it is a question of some
delicacy and I would want to think about it before expressing a final
opinion. I will transmit my views to the committee at an early date
by letter.
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand that, and the committee would like to
have your matured opinion about it.
Mr. GILLETT. Concurrently with this work of examining the track,
etc., is the other work in reference to gathering information concern-
ing their stocks and bonds, etc., going on ?
Mr. PROUTY. It is. I want to say this because I want to put myself
right against anything that may possibly happen in the future. Some
people connected with this work think that the sums which I name
now are altogether too small; that it will cost a great deal more than
326 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
that. Now, what this work will cost depends on what we undertake
to do. For example, we are required to show the original cost of the
land which the railroad owns. In doing that we have to go back to
every original deed and consider the cost of each parcel obtained
by the railroad. We are also required to show the present value of
that land. Now, when we show the present value we do not pay
any attention to the different parcels. We just say, “Here is so much
land which the railroad owns and it is worth so much money.” Some
of the railroads have objected to that, and say that we ought to con-
sider it parcel by parcel in determining the present value. I put that
question up to the commission and the commission advised me that
it thinks we ought to consider it parcel by parcel. In my own mind I
do not feel it knew exactly what it was saying when it said that, and
I do not think it will adhere to it, but if it should, it will cost us a
good many thousand dollars more; I think, perhaps, two or three
hundred thousand dollars a year more.
Mr. HARLAN. Just illustrate what you mean by that.
Mr. GILLETT. The purpose is to show the difference between the
cost price and the present price? e
Mr. PROUTY. Yes; that is their idea. I mean this, Mr. Chairman:
here is a stretch of railroad where the land is all alike for one mile.
I can illustrate it better by taking the land up in my country, where
the land was acquired from different individuals. Possibly in that
mile they crossed half a dozen farms. Today we take the whole
mile and we say there is so much land of a certain kind—of a cer-
tain value. We ascertain the value in that way. The railroads say,
“You are obliged to take each parcel; you are obliged to say, here is
a certain section that comes from John Jones's farm.” Now, to
take that section out would damage John Jones's farm so many
thousand dollars, and we are obliged in that way to go from parcel
to parcel. I do not think that will ever be done, but I am very sure
if it were done it would cost a very great deal more money than to do
it the way we are doing it now.
Mr. GILLETT. It would take more time?
Mr. PROUTY. It would take a great deal more time, and would be
an entirely different proposition. It would cost $10 a mile more.
Mr. HARLAN. How do you apply that thought to a terminal con-
dition? Take the Pennsylvania Railroad station site in New York,
which consists of a great many lots.
Mr. PROUTY. It would be impossible to do it in the case of a termi-
mal situation, because every boundary practically has been obliter-
ated there, and still, roughly, it might be done. So it is with this
accounting work. The Congress has required us to show the original
cost to date in detail of the railroad property. If we were to carry
that out to a literal compliance it will, cost more to do the accounting
Work than it will the engineering work. It would cost an immense
sum. I suppose it would add $15,000,000 to the figures I have been
talking about here. I do not think that Congress will ever ask
us to do that, because it does not do any good, and I do not think
the commission will be disposed to do it. But still, if that were to
be done it would increase these figures. I am assuming in giving
these figures that we are going to do what is necessary in a common-
sense and in a practical way to ascertain the facts that the Govern-
ment has to know.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 327
DEFICIENCY IN GENERAL EXPEN SES.
Mr. HARLAN. Mr. Chairman, I called your attention to the fact
that for the ensuing year we will probably have to ask for a deficiency
appropriation before the year is over. - -
The CHAIRMAN. In what item'
Mr. HARLAN. In the general appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you not submit a supplemental estimate?
Mr. HARLAN. I was going to ask whether you would prefer at this
time to have the full estimate for the year.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; Submit a supplemental estimate, and under
the law you have to set forth the reasons for your failure to ask for
the full amount in the regular book of estimates. I think it will be
better to do that since you know that you will require more than you
have asked for.
Mr. MCGINTY. On the basis of the pay roll alone it will be neces-
sary to have an increase in the appropriation.
Mr. GILLETT. How did you happen to put in this estimate?
Mr. MCGINTY. As I explained in the beginning, the increases have
occurred since the estimate was put in.
The CHAIRMAN. And the appropriation for the commission was
reduced upon their own suggestion $50,000 for 1914?
Mr. McGINTY. Yes; and, Mr. Chairman, for 1912 and 1913, re-
spectively, you gave the commission $1,000,000. It has been reduced
from that amount.
The CHAIRMAN. You told us you could get along with less than
that amount.
Mr. McGINTY. Yes; and we did for one year.
PRINTING AND BINDING.
The CHAIRMAN. For printing you had $125,000 this year and you
are asking for $120,000. I thought you stated you were going to
reduce that $15,000. -
Mr. McGINTY. No, sir; we do not propose to reduce it below what
it is by $15,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You said you did.
Mr. McGINTY. We requested $135,000 last year.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what you asked for.
Mr. McGINTY. It was a reduction under what we asked for by
$15,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you have unexpended last year?
Mr. GRAHAM. $34,572.63.
The CHAIRMAN. Unexpended?
Mr. McGINTY. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you explain that?
Mr. McGINTY. That was due to the fact that the valuation print-
ing was not ready by the end of that fiscal year. . As you will recall,
we told you we could not possibly tell how quickly the valuation
printing would be ready. It is now ready and is being printed
rapidly, and there will be quite an expense; in fact, an enormous ex-
pense for valuation printing because they will have a number of
forms and those forms must be put in plates, and the larger expense
will be due to the plate printing.
328 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought you would have all those forms out by
this time. t
Mr. McGINTY. No, sir; we have not.
Mr. GILLETT. Is not the cost of printing included in the cost of the
valuation work? -
Mr. MCGINTY. Yes; but it does not come out of the valuation
appropriation.
Mr. GILLETT. How much a year does it amount to ?
* MCGINTY. There is no way of telling how much it is going
to be. º
Mr. PROUTY. We are going to require the railroads to furnish their
own blanks. We shall prescribe the form and they will perhaps buy
that form from the Government printer. We shall have to print
forms enough to serve upon them, so that they may know what the
forms are. We, of course, will require a certain number of forms
in our work, but I do not think that our printing expense will be
anything very extravagant. I would not want to undertake to put
it in dollars and cents now, but I do not think it will be very large.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you mean by that, roughly speaking?
The CHAIRMAN. What do you call a large sum, Judge?
Mr. PROUTY. How much have we spent, Mr. McGinty, up to the
present time?
Mr. McGINTY. From July 1 to. December 31, 1914, we have spent
$11,375.13.
Mr. PROUTY. I was going to say somewhere between $30,000 and
$50,000 a year would cover it. - º
Mr. GILLETT. Is that for all the printing, including the printing of
the railroads?
Mr. PROUTY. That is our printing. Mr. McGinty, do you think
that is about right? •
Mr. McGINTY. I think that is about right; and if it is between
$30,000 and $50,000, that will be a good part of our printing allot-
Iment.
Mr. GILLETT. Why do the railroads have to furnish the blanks!
Mr. PROUTY. Of course I am talking about something I do not
know anything about. I may be utterly wrong about it.
Mr. McGINTY. I do not think it will run to $30,000; not more than
that, at any rate.
Mr. GILLETT. A moment ago you said that was about right.
Mr. McGINTY. I think $30,000 is about right. I think that is the
maximum.
Mr. PROUTY. We can not get any printing done except at the Gov-
ernment Printing Office. I would almost be willing to pay for it
myself if I could have it done at some other place besides the Gov-
ernment Printing Office. It takes us 90 days to get any work from
them. We produced the forms necessary to do our telephone and
telegraph work and sent them over there and it was 90 days before
we got the forms, and in the meantime we could not do a thing.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you tell them you wanted them in a hurry?
Mr. PROUTY. Yes, sir; we put it on the “expedite” schedule, but
that does not expedite the work.
Mr. MoRDELL. When was that?
Mr. PROUTY. That was on the 1st of July, sir, and ran from July
through August and September.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 329
bl *: guirr. Why should the railroads have to furnish their own
2.IlkS 4
Mr. PROUTY. I do not know why the commission should furnish
the blanks. They have to make the report to us. We simply prescribe
the form on which that report shall be made. They make, for ex-
ample, an inventory of their equipment showing us the cars and
locomotives they have on hand. We prescribe the form but they fur-
nish the material.
Mr. HARLAN. They buy other blanks which the commission has
prescribed.
Mr. McGINTY. Mr. Chairman, in the deficiency of April 6, 1914,
you appropriated $25,000 to take care of what we thought would be
the valuation work, of which sum $4,500 may be spent for State
forms at cost. In the sundry civil bill the reading is this: “For the
Interstate Commerce Commission, $125,000, of which sum $4,500 shall
be available to print and furnish to the States report-form blanks,”
and you do not say “at cost.” Does that mean that we may give them
the forms?
The CHAIRMAN. No; they have got to pay for them. You do noi,
ask for that at all this year.
Mr. McGINTY. It was not requested last year.
Mr. GRAHAM. It was not requested last year but it was inserted in
the bill. We had not determined on the amount. s
The CHAIRMAN. It was not in the estimates, but you came in here
and told us it was very important that you should do it although they
did not ask for it. -
Mr. GRAHAM. That is exactly right.
The CHAIRMAN. And the various State commissioners wrote to us
and other Members of Congress about it. -
Mr. McGINTY. Now, Mr. Chairman, here is what we are up against
this year. There will probably be four new classifications which will
require report forms from telephone companies, water carriers, pipe
lines, and telegraph companies. Now, as soon as we prescribe the
classifications either the State railroad or utilities commissions will
ask us for those forms. Now, may we print those and sell them to
the States at cost? That falls within the same category as the forms
we now furnish.
The CHAIRMAN. Why should not the telephone and telegraph com-
panies print their own blanks?
Mr. McGINTY. They would not be uniform.
The CHAIRMAN. They would be uniform if you prescribed one
form for all of them. The reason why we furnished these forms to
the State commissions was on your argument that they were willing
to make these reports, but they had no appropriation from which
they could buy the forms.
Mr. McGINTY. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. That is not true of these public-utilities com-
panles. -
Mr. McGINTY. I do not know how the commission looks upon this
matter, because I have not said anything to any member of the com-
mission about it.
The CHAIRMAN. All you have to do is to prescribe the form and
tell them to furnish the reports in that way.
Mr. McGINTY. Put it all falls in the same category.
330 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN, No: it is entirely different. Some of these com-
missioners not only did not have any appropriation, but their legis-
latures would not meet for four years. - - .
Mr. MCGINTY: You understand it will pay for itself, as the States
will reimburse the United States the cost of the work. It costs the
Government nothing in the end. They will all be uniform if we
can print them at the Government Printing Office.
The CHAIRMAN. If you will submit a provision along the lines you
desire, we will see what can be done.
Mr. McGINTY. The provision we would submit, Mr. Chairman,
would be exactly in accordance with what is in the deficiency bill,
only we would increase the amount, say, to $10,000 for the reasons
just stated.
INTERSTATE COMMERCF, CoM MISSION,
Washington, January |, 1915.
#
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD.
Chairman Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives. * *
My DEAR SIR : The urgent deficiency bill of April 6, 1914, in respect to print-
ing and binding for the Interstate Commerce, Commission provided that : “For
printing and binding for the Interstate Commerce Commission, $25,000, of which
Slim $4,500 shall be available to print and furnish to the States, at cost, report-
form blanks.” -
The Sundry civil bill of August 1, 1914, referring to the same subject, pro-
vided as follows: “For the Interstate Commerce Commission, $125,000, of
which sum $4,500 shall he available to print and furnish to the States report-
form blanks.” -
I am transmitting herewith statement of the blank annual report forms fur-
nished to the various States at cost, in accordance with provisions of the de-
ficiency act first referred to, which is self-explanatory. - . . . .
For the year ending June 30, 1915, an increase in the number of interstate
forms will be needed, the necessity therefor being due principally to the in-
crease in the number of corporations from which reports will be required and
especially because of the general revision of report forms for the current fiscal
year. This revision will be far more extensive than it has been since 190S,
because material changes are requisite to adapt the report forms to the com-
mission’s revised cassificaion of accounts that became effective July 1, 1914,
and because it has seemed important, as well as opportune, that the require-
ments in the forms for reports be comprehensively revised and changed mate-
I'jally in details of arrangement involving a printed page of slightly greater
dimensions. The revision of these forms will necessitate a large expense for
compostion and plating not usually incurred. - .
In addition to the needs for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914, interstate
report forms are in course of preparation for large telephone companies and
for large carriers by water and separate modified forms are in contemplation
for the lesser important carriers of the same classes. Similar forms will be de-
signed for telegraph Companies and for pipe-line companies. :
At the annual convention of the National Association of Railway Commis-
Sioners, held in this city in November last, a special committee on the revision
of annual-report forms for State commissions was appointed. It is the purpose
and desire of the States that the State forms harmonize, as nearly as practica-
ble, with the interstate forms, which will necessiate the reprinting and replat-
ing of the State forms which will correspond to those interstate forms, which
must be changed because Of the modification of the classificaion above referred
to ; also the railroad and utilities commissions of the States will doubtless call
upon us to furnish for the States the blank forms for the telephone, telegraph,
and pipe-line companies, in order that the accounting practices and statistical
Compilations may be uniform. It is extremely desirable, as explained in the
past, that there should be this uniformity as between the State and interstate
forms. It is impracticable at this time to give any detailed estimate of the prob-
able number of forms that the respective States will desire, but it is believed
that the cost therefor will not exceed $10,000. Bearing in mind the desire of
your committee that the States should pay for these forms, we would respect.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
331
fully Suggest that in the appropriation for printing and binding for this com-
Imission there be embodied a provision reading, in Substance, as follows:
“For printing and binding for the Interstate Commerce Commission, $120,000,
of which sum not exceeding $10,000 shall be available to print and furnish to
the States, at cost, report-form blanks.”
Yours, very truly,
JAMES S. HARLAN, Chairman.
Blank annual report forms furnished to various Stales, at cost, in accordance with pro
visions of the deficiency act of Apr. 6, 1914.
State.
Reports for steam carriers.
State forms, at
59 cents each.
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Arkansas. -
California
Colorado
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Maryland.....................
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Michigan------------..........
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Mississippi
Missouri
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Nevada.---------------........
New Hampshire. .............
New Jersey. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
New Mexico. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
New York 1
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Pennsylvania
.Rhode Island
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Virginia-----------------------
Washington... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
West Virginia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Wisconsin. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Grand total.
& º ºs º º gº as e º ºs &
Nº. Amount
100 $59.00
80 47. 20
50 29. 50
225 132. 75
120 70.80
30 17. 70
85 50.15
60 35.40
75 44.25
150 88.50
80 47. 20
55 32.45
125 73. 75
220 129.80
110 64.90
36 21. 24
400 236.00
30 17. 70
50 29. 50
10ſ) 59.00
25 14. 75
75 44.25
60 35.40
100 59.00
20 11.80
325 191. 75
10ſ) 59.00
130 76. 70
800 472. 00
24 14. 16
80 47. 20
40 23. 60
50 29. 50
25 14. 75
120 70.80
125 73. 75
200 118.00
50 29. 50
4,530 2,672. 70
Interstate.
Form A, at Form B, at Form F, at
69 Cents each. 63 cents each. 51 cents each.
Num- Num- Num-
ber. S Amorint, ber. Amount ber. Amount.
º gº gº º º 27 | sis. 63 || 27 | siz.0i | 37 $44,37
27 18.63 27 17.01 87 44.37

1 Ordered by and furnished to commission of second district of New York.
* Ordered by and furnished to the Public Service Commission.
* Ordered by and furnished to the tax commissioner of Vermont.
332
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Blank (Unnual report forms furnished to variott S. States, at cost—Continued.

Reports for Reports for Reports for
electric express sleeping-car
carriers, i. companies, * cºat i
54 Cents each. | 66 Cents each. $2.87 each. Amount Amount ºn...,
State. paid. unpaid. Total.
Num- Num- ..., |Num-
ber. Amount. ber. Amount. ber. Amount.
Alabama..................... 36 $19.44 | 12 || $7.92 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $86.36 |. - - - - - - - - $86.36
Arizona-------............... 12 6. 48 4 2. 64 4 || $11. 48 67.80 | . . . . . . . . . 67.80
Arkansas------------------...|............... 3 1.98 |... . . . . . . . . . . . [- -------. $31.48 31.48
California..................... 150 81.00 15 9.90 3 8. 61 || 232. 26 |... . . . . . . 232.26
Colorado. .................... 15 8. 10 || 15 9.90 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . S8.80 . . . . . . . . . 88.80
Connecticut..................l......l......... 6 3.96 ------|--------- 21.66 |... . . . . . . 21. 66
lorida-----------------------|------|--------. 6 3.96 ... ---|--------- 54. 11 ||--------- 54. 11
Georgia....................... 30 | 16. 20 [... ---|---------|--|--|--|---------|--------- 51. 60 || 51.60
Idaho. -----.................. 1() 5. 40 20 13.20 |......I.-------- 62.85 |... -- - - - - 62.85
Iowa. ........................ 60 || 32.40 25 16.50 ------|---------|--------- 137. 40 || 137. 40
Kansas....................... 40 || 21.60 | 16 || 10. 56 5 || 14.35 | 93.71 |... - - - - - - 93.71
Lou's'ana--------------......l......l......... 12 7.92 l.-----|--------- 7.92 |- - - - - - - - - 7. 92
*--------------------....l......l.........l......l........................ 32.45 |... - - - - - - - 32.45
Maryland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100 || 54.00 || 50 || 33.00 2 5. 74 | 166.49 |. . . . . . . . . 166. 49
MASSºchusetts.............................................. 4 11. 48 9]. 49 |- - - - - - - - - 91. 49
Michigan..................... 60 32.40 15 9. Q0 4 11. 48 | 183.58 |- - - - - - - - - 183.58
Minnesota.................... 16 8.64 | 20 ! 13.20 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86. 74 |... - - - - - - - S6. 74
Mississippi................... 4 2. 16 6 3.96 ſ. . . . . . . . . . ----- 27.36 |. . . . . . . . . 27.36
Missouri. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250 135.00 50 33.00 4 11. 48 415.48 |. . . . . . . . . 415.48
Montana..................... 3 1. 62 12 7.92 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . 27.24 . . . . . . . . . 27. 24
Nebraska.....................l......l.........l......l.........l............... 29. 50 |- - - - - - - - - 29. 50
Nevada. - .................... 20 | 10.80 || 30 19.80 . . . . . . . . ------. 89.60 |.... - - - - - 89. 60
New Hampshire.- ............|............... 15 9.90 . . . . . . . -------- 24.65 |- - - - - - - - - 24.65
New Jersey...................l......l...............l.........l............... 44.25 |- - - - - - - - - 44.25
New Mexico. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4.32 | 16 || 10. 56 2 5. 74 56.02 . . . . . . . . . 56.02
New York . . ......................l......... 24 15.84 4 11. 48 27.32 I. . . . . . . . . 27.32
North Carolina...............l......l...............l.........l............... 59.00 l. . . . . . . . . 59.00
North Dakota................|......|......... 14 9. 24 I.-------------- 21.04 - - - - - - - - - 21.04
Ohio. ........................ 250 | 135.00 20 13. 20 2 5. 74 345.69 |. . . . . . . . . 345.69
Oklahoma. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80 || 43. 20 12 7. 92 3 8. 61 | 118, 73 |. . . . . . . . . 118. 73
Oregon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50 27.00 20 13. 20 l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 116.90 | . . . . . . . . . 116.90
Pennsylvania. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400 || 216.00 50 || 33.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 721.00 |. . . . . . . . . 721.00
Rhode Island... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36 19.44 6 3.96 ſ. . . . . . . . . . ----- 37.56 |. . . . . . . . . 37.56
South Carolina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4.32 4 2.64 |......!--------. 54. 16 - - - - - - - - - 54. 16
South Dakota................]......]......... 15 9.90 ſ. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33.50 |... ------ 33.50
Vermont 2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30 16, 20 12 7.92 ſ. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53. 62 |... ------- 53. 62
Yermont 8.................... 15 8, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . i. -------- 22.85 22.85
Virginia----------------------|------|---------|......l.........l............... 70.80 | . . . . . . . . . 70.80
Washington. ................. 85 || 45.90 || 25 | 16. 50 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 136. 15 - - - - - - - - - 136. 15.
West Virginia................ 100 | 54.00 25 | 16.50 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 188.50 | . . . . . . . . . 188.50
Wisconsin....................l......l...............l.........l............... 29. 50 |. . . . . . . . . . 50
Grand total. . . . . . . . . . . . 1,868 |1,008. 72 575 || 379.50 | 37 106.19 |4,003. 79 243.33 4,247. 12
1 Ordered by and furnished to commission of Second district of New York.
2 Ordered by and furnished to the Public Service Commission.
3 Ordered by and furnished to the tax commissioner of Vermont.
SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1915.
BOARD OF MEDIATION AND CONCILIATION.
STATEMENT OF MR. W. L. CHAMBERS, COMMISSIONER, UNITED
STATES BOARD OF MEDIATION AND CONCILIATION.
The CHAIRMAN. United States Board of Mediation and Concilia-
tion, the appropriation for 1915 is $50,000 and you are asking for
$50,000. Just what has been done, Judge? -
Wr. CHAMBERs. At the request of the clerk of the committee, Mr.
Chairman, we filed, about two weeks ago, copies of my annual report
to the President of the United States.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 333
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give us a brief statement of your activi-
ties? --- :
Mr. CHAMBERs. The appropriations for the year covered by this
$25,000, and subsequently a deficiency appropriation of $10,000, and
report were the Original appropriation when the act was passed of
later a second deficiency appropriation of $40,000, making a total of
$75,000. This annual report explains how the $75,000 appropriation
was disposed of. At the end of the fiscal year certain arbitrations
which were in process of negotiation at the time the last appropria-
tion of $40,000 was made had not been concluded, and the unex-
pended balance of $20,787.83 of that appropriation was turned back
into the Treasury. -
The CHAIRMAN. Out of the $75,000?
Mr. CHAMBERs. Out of the extra $50,000. That came about be-
cause the arbitrations had not yet ended and all the accounts inci-
dent to them had not been audited and paid, so that the expenditures
of the commission out of the appropriation of $75,000 were $54,-
212.17. We are now, of course, operating under the appropriation
for 1915 of $50,000; but, as was stated to the committee, the actual
cost of the work will depend on the number of arbitrations. It costs
about $25,000 a year to administer the law. The exact amount for
1914, covering 11 months and 13 days of the life of the law, was
$18,365.23. I have here a statement showing all the receipts and
disbursements of the board. It cost last year $18,365.23 for adminis-
tration expenses, which included the salary of the commissioner of
$7,500, and of the assistant commissioner, $5,000, clerk hire, rent,
traveling expenses, hotel bills, etc. The arbitration expenses were
$33,644.51, from which it will be seen that much the larger portion
of the expense of the board falls under the head of arbitration in-
stead of mediation.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not know, of course, what you are going
to be called on to do?
Mr. CHAMBERS. No, sir; we never can tell. For instance, we have
an arbitration pending in Chicago with 98 western railroads, which
include all the railroads west of the Mississippi and the Illinois
Central this side of the river, and the engineers’ and firemen’s or-
ganizations of approximately 64,000 men. That board consists of six
arbitrators. The law permits arbitration boards of either three or
six members, and the Board of Mediation has established the prac-
tice, with the approval of both sides, that where the controversy is
between one railroad and one organization of labor that the board
shall consist of three members, one to be chosen by each of the
parties and the other as provided by the act of July 15, 1913. If
the arbitration involves more than one railroad and more than one
labor organization we consent, if the parties request it, to a board of
six. The Government must pay the salaries of the neutral arbitrators
appointed by the board, and the parties themselves pay their own
arbitrators, except in those cases where the arbitrator forfeits salary,
and in that case the Board of Mediation has paid the salaries of
the arbitrators representing the two parties.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you mean by “forfeits the salary’—gives
up some position he held 3
Mr. CHAMBERs. Yes, sir. For instance, the parties generally ap-
point one of their own officers. The trainmen will appoint one of
334 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
its vice presidents, and the conductors one of its vice presidents, and
in this present arbitration now pending the railroads appointed a
vice president of the Burlington Railroad and the vice president of
the Illinois Central Railroad. Now, manifestly, we would not allow
compensation on the basis of the salary of those gentlemen, because
one of them, I understand, gets $25,000 a year. A maximum of $10 a
day is what we have paid to arbitrators chosen by the parties.
Mr. GILLETT. They do not forfeit their positions, those vice presi.
dents? -
Mr. CHAMBERS. In the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy arbitration
Mr. Harrington, one of the vice presidents of the conductors’ organ.
ization, served at a compensation of about $7 or $8 a day. He had
to resign his position temporarily: that is, he had to forfeit his
salary while he was on that board of arbitration, and his compensa-
tion, which is stated in our accounts, was just what his salary would
have been for that time. I think he was drawing a salary of perhaps
$3,000 a year. r e -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking that the rent allowance be made
$2,820 instead of $2,280. .
Mr. CHAMBERs. That comes about, Mr. Chairman, from the fact
that the Commission on Industrial Relations and the Board of Medi-
ation jointly had two rooms. We have a conference room, which is
sometimes overflowing, as the mediation conferences for all the rail-
roads south of Washington and east of the Mississippi, and also for
the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, are held in our offices here, and we
necessarily need a large room. While we call it a conference room,
it is really a hearing room. It is probably not as large as this room
and has a table of this size, and we sometimes have as many as 40
or 50 men there. The railroads have their officers and the organiza-
tions have their committees, and the hearing Sometimes lasts 10 days
to 2 weeks, and in one instance 23 days. We actually require such
a room. The Commission on Industrial Relations needed it when
they first organized here as much as we did, but now they have
transferred their field work to Chicago, and the difference between
what we had last year and what we ask now is the difference that
we will have to pay for the whole of that room.
The CHAIRMAN. A difference of about $600?
Mr. CHAMBERs. $540.
The CHAIRMAN. Have these arbitrations been successful in their
results?
Mr. CHAMBERs. Very much so, sir. Since this law was passed there
was a strike on the Delaware & Hudson Railroad of which we had
notice about 7 o'clock one Sunday afternoon, and it was to take
place at 6 o'clock Monday morning. Both parties were, perhaps,
under the impression that the other would yield, and did not call
the attention of the Board of Mediation to the controversy until that
hour. I immediately telegraphed the officers of the railroad and the
executive heads of the organizations tendering the services of the
board, and urged them to maintain operations until we could take
hold of the matter. The assistant commissioner left at 12 o'clock
and was in Albany at 11 o'clock the next morning. I had assembled
the parties by telegraph, and at 7 o'clock that afternoon, through
the services of the assistant commissioner, the strike was called off.
It promised to be one of the most serious controversies during the
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 385
- º
year. The Atlantic division of the Southern Pacific Railroad had
a strike on its Texas lines. That continued for about three days.
The distance had something to do with it. I went to New York im-
mediately upon hearing of it. The first knowledge we had came
from the Senators from Texas and some of the Representatives.
I went to New York, as I say, and met the higher officials, and
my assistant immediately started for Houston, Tex. We demanded
certain conditions that the railroads and the men should comply
with upon our guaranty that we would negotiate for them, and as a
result of our intervention operations were resumed and the questions
in dispute were settled afterwards by mediation. With those excep-
tions there have been no strikes anywhere in the United States since
this law was passed. The table of cases will show that there were
28 cases of that nature, and in every instance strikes were averted
where we had notice in advance. g
Mr. GILLETT. When was this board established?
Mr. CHAMBERs. The law was passed the 15th of July, 1913. This
table of cases by no means represents the Work of the board, because
the custom has grown up—I think wisely—between the organizations
and the railroads that when they reach a point in their controversy
where there is likely to be any disturbance dertimental to the public
interest they refer it to our board. The board renders no decisions,
as we have no power to enforce them, but there has not been a single
instance where our rulings have been disregarded. They now bring
to us questions of discipline, which formerly brought about great
friction and expense to the railroads. For instance, they discharge
an engineer for an accident occasioned by the locomotive running oft
the track. He contends it was the fault of railroad construction or
defect in machinery, and they contend he was running too fast or
that he was not managing his engine properly. The man refers it
to his organization, and they take a vote to sustain the man if it is
held that he has been unjustly dismissed. Now, formerly those dis-
putes went on until there was a sympathetic vote by the other organi-
zations, and the men would retire from the service. Instead of that
procedure they now bring the matter to our board and it is disposed
of there.
Mr. GILLETT. There is not nearly the frequency of strikes during
times when employment is scarce as when employment is plentiful,
and last year was a time of scant employment. -
Mr. CHAMBERs. Of course, there would be fewer strikes when the
men fear they will probably lose out. There would be less strikes,
too, perhaps, in prosperous times when the railroads think they are
likely to lose out for the same reason.
Mr. MoRDELL. Are there not generally more strikes under pros-
perous conditions, because of the fact men can secure other employ-
ment if they lose the employment they have?
Mr. CHAMBERs. I think that is probably true, sir; but there are
more controversies in times of depression that might result in strikes
except for the fact that settlement of disputes along amicable lines
are made easier from a labor standpoint. The efforts of the railroads
to economize, to work with fewer men, those conditions bring about
contentions about small things that would not arise in prosperous
times.
336 . SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
{.
Mr. MoRDELL. In the matter of the pay of the arbitrators, you say
that you Only pay those appointed by the parties in interest in cases
where, by reason of their employment as members of the board, they
forfeit pay ?
Mr. CHAMBERS. Yes, sir. That only applies to where they appoint
Some of their own officers. In some instances they appoint independ-
ent outside parties.
Mr. MONDELL. In such a case you do not pay?
Mr. CHAMBERs. In such a case we do pay. We would rather they
would appoint independent arbitrators all the time. It would be
better, I think, for all parties if all the arbitrators were neutral.
Mr. MoRDELL. You pay in all cases where they appoint outside
parties?
Mr. CHAMBERs. In all cases except where the arbitrator declines
compensation. I recall one in San Francisco, a very prominent law-
yer, upon whom all the parties agreed, and he would not accept any
pay. He considered it a public service. Mr. Seth Low, in New York,
who was chairman of the eastern conductors’ arbitration, declined for
a long time to take pay, and only finally accepted nominal compensa-
tion, because his colleague, Dr. Finley, was not a man of wealth and
could not contribute fifty-odd days of his time. The trustees of the
college had to excuse Dr. Finley for the time that he was serving on
this board. The sessions continued from 9 o'clock in the morning
until 4.30 o'clock every afternoon, except Sundays and holidays, until
the arbitration was finished.
Mr. MoR DELL. In cases where the arbitrators are officers of labor
organizations or officers of the railroads, you say you do not pay
them? .
Mr. CHAMBERs. We do not pay them if they continue to draw their
salaries from the organizations or the railroads while the arbitration
is going on.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do they ordinarily continue to draw their salaries
from the organizations?
Mr. CHAMBERs. Yes, sir. I recall now only one instance where we
have paid compensation to an arbitrator chosen by the employees,
and in his instance there was something in the law of his organi-
zation which required him to give up his office if he was engaged
in any other work. ‘.
Mr. MoRDELL. I was simply anxious to learn what your practice
was. You say there has been only one case where the arbitrator
was an officer of a labor organization or an official of a railroad com-
pany where you paid him compensation? ‘g -
Mr. CHAMBERs. No. He is the only man who forfeited his pay.
Prior to this arrangement which we made with the parties we paid
everybody, whether he forfeited his pay or not, but we did not think
it was right that the practice should continue. That had been the
practice for years before this board was organized, to pay every man
on the arbitration board a per diem. That was continued through
two or three arbitrations. A conference was held with presidents
of the larger railroads and the chief officers of the organizations,
and it was agreed in the conference with us that wherever an
officer of an organization, railroad or labor, was appointed on a
board of arbitration no compensation would be paid for his services,
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 337
except by way of remuneration for any forfeiture he might make of
his salary. . - -
Mr. MoRDELL. When was that? -
Mr. CHAMBERs. I have not the date with me. I think, perhaps,
a year ago. This board had been established only four or five
months.
Mr. MoRDELL. Since that time you say that only one person who
was an officer of such an organization has been paid! -
Mr. CHAMBERS. Yes, sir; in only one instance since that agreement
was made has an officer of a labor organization been paid for service,
and in no case has a railroad officer taken compensation. :
Mr. MoRDELL. That was a case where an officer of the railroad
organization was, by the terms of his employment, compelled to lose
his compensation while serving on the board?
Mr. CHAMBERs. Yes, sir; under the law of his organization his vice
chairman took his place and received his salary when he went to any
other work. |
Mr. MoRDELL. What have been the more important cases which
you have arbitrated in the last year and a half?
Mr. CHAMBERs. The demands of the conductors and trainmen in
what is known as eastern territory against the 42 eastern railroads
beginning alphabetically with the Baltimore & Ohio and ending
with the Wheeling & Lake Erie
Mr. MondBLL. Please put in the record a statement of those you
consider the more important. - -
Mr. CHAMBERs. I have a list of the 28 more important printed here.
There have perhaps been as many as a hundred other controversies
brought to the board and settled through mediation.
(The statement submitted by Mr. Chambers follows.)
72785–15–22
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TABLE I.—Cases of mediation and arbitration under the Newlands Act during the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914.
* . . . . º. Handled over mileage
C Application. Approxi- Operated. g
§. Railroad involved. mate mileage
O. operated.
Date received. Made by— Passengers. Tonnage.
ſBaltimore & Ohio----------------------------------------------------------------- 4,456.33 -
Baltimore & Ohio Southwestern-------------------------------------------------- ’931.4% } 22,879,239 72,461,064
Bessemer & La e Erie---------------------------------------------------------. -- 212.54 1,115,275 15,801,252
Boston & Albany--------------------------------------------------------- -------- 199. 23 l {j
Boston & Maine------------------------------------------------------------------ 2,301.90 49,918, 103 25,473,568
Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh.-------------------------------------------------. 576.46 2,023,020 12,490,608
Buffalo & Susquehanna......... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 252.56 626,230 2,482,103
Central New England------------------------------------------------------------- 276.93 921,658 6, 119,568
Central Railroad of New Jersey - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------- 676. 07 24, 251,226 34,208,322
Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville------------------------------------------------ 616. 60 2,163,216 4,546,441
o Chicago, Indiana & Southern----------------------------------------------------- 358. 84 589,030 8,763,347
Chicago, Terre aute & Southeastern. -----------------------...------------------ 361. 57 710,228 3,245,563
Cincinnati, Tamilton & Dayton.-------------------------------------------------- 1,014.60 2,870,866 11,510,773
Cincinnati Northern-------------------------------------------------------------- 244.67 86,638 1,880,381
Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis---------------------------------------- 2,013.78 7,881,739 26,691,732
Dayton & Union------------------------------------------------------------------ 47.0 170,078 97,453
Delaware & Hudson-------------------------------------------------------------- 853. 61 8,204,722 20,443,250
Delaware, Lac, awanna & Western------------------------------------------------ 959. 81 25,525,251 24,833,188
* Detroit, Toledo & Ironton.-------------------------------------------------------- 441. 29 405,608 2,571,269
| ſº º: & Indiana--------------------------------------------------------- #. § 2 º 0 2 S
• oc ing Valley-------------------------------------------------- * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1.5 77, 14 11, 178,636
1 July 16, 1913 | Services tendered........... #sºhigan............................................................. #6.6ö | 1,266.783 5,6ii.ii;
Lake Erie & Western------------------------------------------------------------. 905. 61 1,725,779 5,682,797
Lake Shore & Michigan Southern. ---------------------------------------------... 1,872.30 10,011,962 44,130,230
Lehigh & Hudson River.--------------------------------------------------------- 96.6 158,148 4,700,898
Long Island----------------------------------------------------------------------- 395.02 8) )
Maine Central--------------------------------------------------------------------- 1, 206. 70 4,766,403 7,282,464
Michigan Central------------------------------------------------------------------ 1,819. 15 6, 153,208 22,639,992
New York Central & Hudson River.-----------------------------------........... 3,750.65 52,837, 515 55, 582,087
* New York, Chi ago & St. Louis--------------------------------------------------- 564. 56 843,260 9,980,090
New York, New Haven & Hartford.--------------...----------------------------- 2, 112. 55 86,813,807 26,236,327
New York, Ontario & Western---------------------------------------------------. 565. 61 2,245,578 6,409,817
New York, Philadelphia & Norfolk----------------------------------------------- 112.00 784,001 3,805,133
Pennsylvania Lines, East--------------------------------------------------------- 5,943. 48 145,218,357 189,987,385
Pennsylvania Lines, West-------------------------------------------------------- 3,817.97 32,628,917 170,687,392
Philadelphia & Reading---------------------------------------------------------- 1,020.38 27,620,457 55,525,949
Rutland-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 468. 11 1,777,732 2,502, 748
Toledo & Ohio Central------------------------------------------------------------ 442. 85 1,121,048 8,105,256
Vandalia---------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 910. 05 2) (2
Western Maryland---------------------------------------------------------------- 543.00 2,194,998. 10,821,039
Wheeling & Lake Erie---------------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 511. 44 1, 754,901 11,667,451
(Zanesville & Western------------------------------------------------------------- 89. 70 253,495 1,507,305
*s


§
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July 29, 1913
Aug.
Aug. 12, 1913
(6)
Sept. 27, 1913
Oct. 8, 1913
Sept. 22, 1913
Oct.
NOV.
Oct.
Nov.
NOV.
Jan.
Jan.
Jan.
25, 1913
13, 1913
30, 1913
29, 1913
25, 1913
18, 1914
12, 1914
24, 1914
Feb. 18, 1914
Mar. 3, 1914
Apr. 16, 1914
Apr. 29, 1914
* * * * * * *
se sº se e s sº sº e º gº ºs º a tº e º is º ºs e º 'º an º
Employees-----------------.
Jointly---------------------.
Employees. . . . . . .
Jointly...--------
Employees..................
Jointly...........
Jointly-----------
Jointly
* * * * * * * * * * *
sº e º ºs º º sº s e = *
gº ºs e = * * * * * * *
sº e º is sº sº * * * * *
e = sº º is e º e º sº º
º E & º 'º - º ºs º º º
* - ºg º & & e º e º 'º'
* * * * * * * * * * *
º, º ºr e º e º 'º sº º ºf
* * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * *
Chicago & Western Indiana-...---------------------------------------------------
Belt Railway Co. of Chicago.-----------------------------------------------------.
St. Louis SouthWestern. ----------------------------------------------------------
Southern Pacific Co. (Pacific System).............................................
Central Vermont------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy
Norfolk Southern----------------------------------------------------------------.
{#; Bock Island & Pacific
Chicago, Rock Island & Gulf. -----------------------------------------------------
New York, New Haven & Hartford...............................................
§ & Lake Erie------------------------------------------------------------
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s sº º ºs º ºs º sº gº ºs s sº s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Wabash, Pittsburgh Terminal
west side Beit Railway
Cincinnati, New Orleans & Texas Pacific
{. reat Southern----------------------------------------------------------
Southern Pacific Co. (Sunset Lines)... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Southern Railway----------------------------------------------------------------
Chesapeake & Ohio of Indiana
Seaboard Air Line
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *s ºr e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * e ºs e s sº es e º ºs e º sº a ºn a º ºs s as s e s sº a º ºs e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
New York, Chicago & St. Louis--------------------------------------------------.
Southern Pacific Čo. (Sunset Lines).----------------------------------------------
Baltimore & Ohio.----------------------------------------------------------------
Baltimore & Ohio Southwestern. ------------------...----------------------------
ºn Railroad & Navigation Co------------------------------------
Georgia & Florida
Southern Railway----------------------------------------------------------------
Illinois Southern------------------------------------------------------------------
Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis.---------------------------------------
La e Shore & Michigan Southern-------------------------------------------------
Chicago, Indiana & Southern------------------------------------------------------
Savannah & Northwestern--------------------------------------------------------
Missouri, Oelahoma & Gulf. ------------------------------------------------------
s s = e s sº is sº s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * is s ºr as sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * g. s sº a s sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
96. 44 (4 4)
47. 29 4 4)
905.20 | 1,381, 523 402,
6,487.00 || 35,983,456 20,515,403
411.20 | 1,926, 118 4, 197,836
9, 128.51 23, 100,539 || 33,389,439
834. 4 4. 4
7,572.53 | 19,234,946 20,725,543
475. 61 (4) (4)
2,112.55 | 86,813,807 26,266,327
511.44 1,754,901 | 11,667,451
63. 40 420,429 3,034,218
22.46 84,450 3,900,653
337.27 1,495,728 5,631, 134
309.41 | 1,008,807 3,689,683
3, 470.00 4 )
7,032.97 | 19,634,498 || 29,650,456
284. 59 (4) 4)
3,081.98 || 4,928,125 10,409,242
853.61 | 8,204,722 || 20,443,250
564. 56 843,260 9,980,090
) (4) )
*:::::: } 22,879,239 || 72,461,064
1,917.21 | 2,451,275 5,721,416
352. 20 437,317 511,752
7,032.97 || 19,634,498 || 29,650,456
136. 22 215, 133 1,218,676
2,013.78 7,881,739 26,691, 732
1,872.30 | 10,011,962 44,130,230
358. 84 589,030 8,763,347
109.00 4 4)
334.38 408,985 947,074
109,205.93 || 914,613,103 | 1,323,692,697
1Included in New York Central & Tudson River.
* Included in Pennsylvania lines, West.
* Included in Pennsylvania lines, East.
4 Not reported.
5 Entire system.
7 See case No. 12.
6 The original application for mediation made Aug. 17, 1913, under Erdman Act.

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TABLE I.—Cases of mediation and arbitration under the Newlands Act during the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914–Continued.
Case
No.
Employees involved.
Mediation conferences.
Capitalization.
Class.
Approx-
imate
number.
Represented by 1–
Began.
Place.
Settled by—
Date
mediation
agreement
reached.
(3)
34,085,942
62,490,632
603, 176,791
58,880,000
382,861,450
89,361,983
7,000,000
901,582,711
396, 799,000
91,855,282
21,065,000
20,818, 153
| $577,991,794
5,760,000
l
85,993, 191
43,888,000
19, 204,900
20,867,000
74,317,800
32,029,000
44; 012, 199
24,895,000
81,562,575
4,000,000
148,523,261
86, 30
100,431.6%
36,255,000
K 15,378,000
34,555,000
219, 197,740
*II ,000
118,686,230
67,610,900
| 4,725,000
\
Conductors
J
; ::::::::::::::::::::} 92,448 (3.
}Iuly 21, 1913
New York, N. Y. . . . . . .
Arbitration..........
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542
8
9
10
11
13
14
15
16
17
1 Abbreviations: Brotherhood of Locomotive Eng
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{
63,298,917
2,880,000
103,954,583
5438,254,316
15,964,000
319,974, 100
33,903,000
306,648,200
10, 125,000
382,861,450
67,610,900
60,996,434
1,463,000
6,833,40
18, 139,950
(6)
350,000,000
12,339,000
212,619,000
100, 431,000
58,880,000
|
|
Engineer----------------------
Firemen----------------------
Trainmen---------------------
Condictors--------------------
Trainmen---------------------
Engineers---------------------
Firemen----------------------
Conductors--------------------
Trainmen---------------------
Engineers---------------------
Firemen----------------------
Conductors----------------- "- - -
Trainmen---------------------
Engineers---------------------
Tel 2graphers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Telephoners-------------------
Station agentS.--- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
TOWermen - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Engineers.--------------------
Telegraphers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Telephoners... --- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Station agents-----------------
Signalmen--------------------
Engineers---------------------
Firemen - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hostlers---------------------.
Engineers.--------------------
Firemºn----------------------
Conductors. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Trainmºn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Maintenance of way employees
Engineers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Firemen ---------------------.
Telegraphers-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
Telegraphers-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Station agents. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Signalmen. ------------------.
8,325
} 3,744
48
1,675
2, 664
205
1,865
2,784
S2
} 664
B. L. E.---------------------
B. L. F. & E----------------
B. R. T---------------------
O. R. C.---------------------
B. R. T---------------------
B. L. E.---------------------
B. L. F. & E---------------.
O. R. C.---------------------
B. R. T. --------------------
B. L. E.---------------------
B. L. F. & E---------. . . . . . .
O. R. C.---------------------
B. R. T. --------------------
B. L. E.---------------------
O. R. T. --------------------
B. L. E.---------------------
B. L. F. & E----. . . . . . . . . . . .
O. R. T. --------------------
B. L. B ---------------------
B. L. F. & E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
B. L. E.-------------------.
B. L. F. & E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
O. R. C.---------------------
B. R. T.--------------------
Int. B. M., W. E. - - - - - - - - - -
B. L. B ---------------------
O. R. C. --------------------
{} : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
B. L. E---------------------
B. L. F. & E. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
O. R. Q.--------------------
B. R. T. --------------------
O. R. T---------------------
O. R. T. . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------
}*
}Aug.
i Aug.
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
}oct.
NOV.
}Nov.
NOV.
NOV.
Dec.
Jan.
Jan.
ineers, B. L. E.; Brotherhood of Firemen and En
4, 1913
8, 1913
9, 1913.
. 11, 1913
21, 1913
24, 1913
13, 1913
14, 1913
3, 1913
10, 1913
13, 1913
7, 1913
8, 1913
. 15, 1913
19, 1914
22, 1914
Chicago, Ill-----------------
St. Louis, Mo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
San Francisco, Cal- - - - - - - - - -
St. Albans, Vt. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Chicago, Ill-----------------
Norfolk, Va.-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Chicago, Ill... --------------
New York, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . .
Cleveland, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Washington, D. C. . . . . . . . . .
New York City and Albany,
N. Y.
Cleveland, Ohio. . . . . . . . . . . . .
ginemen, B. L. F. & E.; Order of Railway Conduc
hood of Railroad Trainmen, B. R. T.; Order of Railroad Telegraphers, O. R. T.; International Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employees, Int. B. M. W. E.
ediation and arbi-
tration. }Aug. 6, 1913
Mediation. . . . . . . . . . . . Aug. 12, 1913
* * * * * do----------------| Aug. 18, 1913
* * * * * do----------------| Aug. 13, 1913
Mediation and arbi-
tration. }Aug. 27, 1913
Mediation. . . . . . . . . . . . Sept. 27, 1913.
* * * * * do... . . . . . . . . . . . . - Oct. 27, 1913
tº º º ſº º do----------------| Oct. 18, 1913
Arbitration. . . . . . . . . .
Mediation. . . . . . . . . . . . Dec. 6, 1913
* * * * * do - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. Nov. 16, 1913
Arbitration. . . . . . . . . .
Mediation. . . . . . . . . . . . Dec. 9, 1913
- - - - - do - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dec. 16, 1913
}....do * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jan. 19, 1914
Arbitration. . . . . . . . . .
tors, O. R. C.; Brother-



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TABLE I.—Cases of mediation and arbitration whder the Newlands Act during the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914–Continued.
Employees involved. Mediation conferences.
C #.
8Se. * f * * * * * & mediation
K. Capitalization. Approx- Settled by— agreement
Class. imate Represented by— Pegan. Place. reached.
number.
Engineers--------------------- B. L. E.--------------------- ... --
18 (1) § (2) #####|s ºn-º- ge º 'º e º º ºs º ºs º gº gº º ºs º Mediation------------ Feb. 7, 1914
Trainmen--------------------- B. R. T---------------------
19 | . 577,991,794 | Telegraphers-----------------. 1,969 O. R. T--------------------- Feb. 17, 1914 | Washington, D.C.----...........do............... Apr. 2, 1914
Telegraphers. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
20 112,780,000 §: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 187 | O. R. T--------------------- Feb. 23, 1914 | Portland, Oreg--------------|- - - - - do--------------- Mar. 6, 1914
Station agents.---------------- g
21 Wºº 58|{#####...............}Mar. 19,1914|Augusta, Ga................ Arbitration..........
22 350,000,000 || Maintenance-of-way employees 2,784 || Int. B. M. W. E............ Mar. 16, 1914 Washington, D.C........... Mediation............ Apr. 4, 1914
Fººts * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = B. L. B---------------------
23 *|† *śa ºn tº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * do--------------- Mar. 23, 1914
Trainmen -------------------- B. R. T---------------------
Tel graphels------------------ --
24 148,523,261 $º. ...I.I.I.I.I.Y 1,163 || O. R. T.-------------------. Mar. 26, 1914 | Chicago, Ill. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -]..... do---------------- Apr. 18, 1914
TOWermºn.--------------------
Telegraphers. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *
25 219, 197,740 $º. :::::::: 660 O. R. T--------------------. Apr. 19, 1914 |..... do-----------------------|----- do---------------- Apr. 25, 1914
TOWermºn.-------------------.
Telegraphers.-------------...-- ^*,
26 44,012, 199 §. #| 105 || O. R. T...---------------... Apr. 26, 1914 |..... do---------------------------- do---------------- Apr. 29, 1914
TOWermºn --------------------
27 2,435,000 | Conductors-------------------- 9 O. R. C. -------------------- Apr. 21, 1914 | Savannah, Ga....... --------|----. do---------------- May 15, 1914
* Conductors-------------------- = |ſo. R. C.---------------------
28 17,440, 190 |{i.I.I.I.I.I.I.I. 95 |{E. E. T.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I.I. May 18, 1914 || Muskogee, Okla. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------- May 23, 1914
8,579,416,080 124,503

SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 343
MoWDAY, JANUARY 4, 1915.
MILITARY RECORDS OF THE REVOLUTION.
STATEMENT OF CAPT. H. C. CLARK, UNITED STATES ARMY,
DIRECTOR OF PUBLICATION OF REVOLUTIONARY MILITARY
RECORDS,
The CHAIRMAN. “To continue under the direction of the Secretary
of War, as provided in the act approved March 2, 1913 (37th Stat. L.,
p. 723), the work of collecting or copying and classifying, with a view
to publication, the Scattered military records of the Revolutionary
War, to be immediately available and to remain until expended.”
You are asking for $50,000. How much have you already had for
this work?
Capt. CLARK. We have had $25,000 for the War Department and
$7,000 for the Navy. -
The CHAIRMAN. Altogether, $32,000. How much do you expect
this work is going to cost? -
Capt. CLARK. You mean the entire work?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Capt. CLARK. I have an estimate here that the entire work will
not exceed $250,000.
The CHAIRMAN. When was that prepared and by whom?
Capt. CLARK. This estimate was prepared by myself.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure that?
Capt. CLARK. The question came up at the last hearing, Mr. Chair-
man, and some comparisons were made there between the cost of this
undertaking and the cost of the publication of the so-called Rebellion
Records. It was said that this undertaking would probably cost—I
think Maj. Bigelow stated that this undertaking would probably
cost one-third as much as the Civil War records, or about $1,000,000,
the Civil War records having cost nearly $3,000,000. After it was
pointed out that the Civil War records were copied on the type-
writer or by pen, and that this process was very slow, inaccurate, and
expensive as compared with photostatic copying, a very rapid and
absolutely accurate method, it was estimated that the total cost
would be about $500,000. The lowest estimate submitted at the hear-
ing was that of Assistant Secretary of the Navy Roosevelt, who said
he thought an annual appropriation of $32,000 for 10 or 12 years
would be sufficient. After a year’s experience in the work and a
careful study of the most economical methods of copying records,
we submit that the work will not cost more than $250,000, including
the editing and publishing. Would you like to have the figures
upon which that estimate is based?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. -
Capt. CLARK. In three States—Massachusetts, Virginia, and North
Carolina—we have made in about seven months 14,941 photographic
prints of original Revolutionary documents at an actual cost of 44
cents per print, including all costs of the photographic work, equip-
ment, supplies, and the salaries and traveling expenses of the pho-
tographers. While more than $20,000 has been expended in the
work, a large amount was necessarily spent in securing and organ-
344 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
izing the personnel, the establishment of offices in Washington and
State capitals, the preparation of instructions to searchers, the pur-
chase of office and photographic equipment, and going through the
experimental stages of locating the records and determining upon
the most effective and economical method of collecting the records.
In one State we employed a photographer and furnished him with
all equipment and supplies, in another State the photographer em-
ployed furnished his own equipment, and in a third State a contractor
furnished the prints at 30 cents per print. As a result, we have come
to the conclusion that the last-named method is the most rapid and
the most economical means of copying in places where large quanti-
ties of records are deposited. No doubt as the work progresses and is
advertised more extensively prints may be procured by this method
at less than 30 cents each. 3.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you mean by contract? Do you mean that
you simply let the work out to some one else?
Capt. CLARK. Yes, sir; after getting bids. -
To the cost of the actual production of the prints are to be added
the salary and traveling expenses of the historians, the salary and
traveling expenses of the director, the salary of his clerk, the cost
of office equipment and supplies at headquarters, and an allowance
made for the payment of salaries, etc., during interruptions incident to
moving from one place of deposit to another, and taking into consid-
eration all these expenses, it is estimated that the cost per print will
not exceed 50 cents. For instance, experience has shown that, With-
out interruptions, a contractor can make 4,000 prints in one month
at 30 cents per print. The salary of the historian, $200 per month,
brings the cost up to 35 cents per print, and adding to this work its
proportionate share of expenses at headquarters, the cost per print
under normal conditions would not exceed 40 cents.
The three States in which we are now working probably contain
the largest deposits of records. We have made 14,941 prints, and
our records show that there are many thousand more still to be
copied in Massachusetts and Virginia, but not so large a number are
to be found in the other 10 States; some of the records of Delaware,
New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, and Vermont were copied
some years ago by The Adjutant General’s Office. We estimate, how-
ever, that the thirteen original States will yield an average of more
than 15,000 prints each, or a total of about 200,000 prints. We esti-
mate that about one-third that number will be found outside of the
thirteen original States, which would make a total of about 275,000
prints, and at 50 cents per print the entire cost of the collection would
be less than $150,000.
Mr. GILLETT. Are these records largely in public places or in
individual possession ? s
Capt. CLARK. Largely in public places. In North Carolina. We
have been allowed to copy some private possessions of great value,
including letters written by John Paul Jones and Gen. Washington.
Mr. GILLETT. Would not searching out those private collections
extend your work quite indefinitely?
Capt. CLARR. It will extend it a great deal.
Mr. GILLETT. I do not see how you can estimate how long that
will take. -
Capt. CLARK. That is simply based on my experience. In Virginia,
for instance, I had this poster:
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 345
I’EVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS.
The United States Government desires to ascertain the whereabouts of all
original records, both military and naval, relating to the American Revolu-
tionary War, 1775 to 1783. f
This is a matter of great importance to historical students, librarians, insti-
tutions of learning, patriotic societies, and all persons interested in their
country's Struggle for independence. - -
It is believed that many such records are in the hands of private owners as
well as in Official archives and libraries. It is not desired to purchase these
papers, but to obtain a complete list of them and their location, with a view
to publication. Information in regard to all Such papers will help complete
the record of Virginia’s part in the Revolution. / *
The task of gathering this information in Virginia has been placed in the
hands of Mr. Morgan P. Robinson, of Richmond, and Mr. J. H. Lindsay, of
Charlottesville. - -
All persons having knowledge of the existence of such records are requested
to write to Morgan P. Robinson, historian, for War and Navy Departments,
care State Library, Richmond, Va., giving a 'short description of the documents
and the post-office address of their owner or custodian. - « -
put up in every post office in the State of Virginia by authority of
the Postmaster General; its contents were published in every news-
paper and periodical, and over 7,000 copies were mailed to librarians,
educators, public officials, and members of patriotic, literary, and
historical Societies, and the result was We got a great many letters
from private owners. .
Five photostat machines working continuously could turn out
275,000 prints, at the rate of 4,000 a month, in about 14 months.
But allowing for necessary interruptions incident to moving from
one place of deposit to another, and delays incident to the examina-
tion and selection of materials, and taking into consideration that
at places where there are but few records the work will have to be
done with the ordinary camera, which method is not so rapid as
photostatic copying, it is estimated that the work can be done in
about three years from this date, including the necessary editing and
preparation for printing. The cost of editing and printing is dif-
ficult of estimation at this time, but it is believed that the remaining
$100,000 would cover the cost of both.
The estimate, then, of $150,000 is for getting the prints and ap-
proximately $100,000 is for the editing and printing.
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been a survey made to determine just
what material is in existence to be collected and published?
Capt. CLARK. A partial survey.
The CHAIRMAN. How partial?
Capt. CLARK. In the States of Massachusetts, North Carolina, and
Virginia. -
The CHAIRMAN. What did that survey consist of ?
Capt. CLARK. Four historians were appointed who were recom-
mended as experts by the American Historical Association, one in
Massachusetts, one in North Carolina, and two in Virginia, to in-
2 2 8-)
vestigate and report upon the matter.
The CHAIRMAN. I was asking you about the survey, and you said
Sº a 3 * &
that a partial survey had been made.
Capt. CLARK. I will amend that by saying that the survey covers
*A * S º
all the field in Massachusetts, Virginia, and North Carolina. We
have made accurate surveys
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How were they made?
346 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Capt. CLARK. By historians appointed under this act.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you spent all the money appropriated?
Capt. CLARK. No, sir. We have spent about $21,000 out of both
appropriations. -
The CHAIRMAN. The law in which that was appropriated pro-
vided that the work should be completed for that sum.
Capt. CLARK. The act of March 2, 1913, which was a lump sum
appropriation t |
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). It was the understanding of the
Military Affairs Committee when it reported that bill that the work
would be completed for $32,000.
Capt. CLARK. I do not know about that. I was not connected with
the work at that time.
The CHAIRMAN. Nobody was connected with it at that time, be-
cause that was when it was authorized. That was the original
authorization, and it was the understanding that it would be com-
pleted for that amount. Your estimate is that it will cost $250,000?
Capt. CLARK. Yes, sir. |
The CHAIRMAN. Does that include publishing?
Capt. CLARK. Yes, sir. wº
The CHAIRMAN. How many volumes will there be?
Capt. CLARK. That will depend upon the editors, but it would not,
in my opinion, exceed 50 volumes. r
The CHAIRMAN. What do you base your opinion upon?
Capt. CLARK. It will be impossible to retain everything
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We must have something definite
upon which to work. Now, upon what do you base your estimate?
We might make a mistake about it, and there might be 100 volumes.
Capt. CLARK. You can always place a limit on a publication.
You can say that it shall not exceed 50 volumes or 100 volumes.
The CHAIRMAN. You could not say that unless you knew what was
essential. You would not like to limit it regardless of what was
left out. What we want to know is how many volumes will be re-
quired for those records.
Capt. CLARK. Inasmuch as the War of the Rebellion records re-
quired 150 volumes, I think that this will be approximately 50
volumes, or not more than one-third of the War of the Rebellion
Records. .
The CHAIRMAN. That is all.
SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1915.
ARMORIES AND ARSENAIS.
STATEMENTS OF BRIG. GEN. WILLIAM CROZIER, CHIEF OF ORD-
NANCE, AND COL. E. B. BABBITT, ASSISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF
ORDNANCE,
BENICIA ARSENAL, CAL.
The CHAIRMAN. “Benicia Arsenal, Benicia, Cal. : For increasing
storage facilities, $25,000; for increasing the water º , $20,000;
for increasing facilities for fire protection, $10,000; in all, §§
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 347
| STORIEHOUSE.
Gen. CROZIER. You will remember, Mr. Chairman, that after a
'ather disastrous fire which they had at Benicia Arsenal two or three
years ago there was an appropriation of $15,000 made to cover what
was left of the storehouse that was burned, using a portion of the
wall left standing; and then I made an estimate of $300,000 to build
a storehouse of proper size to meet the storage requirements there.
That sum was not appropriated. I then reduced it to $200,000 for
the same purpose, and that sum was not appropriated.
Now, I have here made an estimate which is in pursuance of a
somewhat different plan, a much more modest plan, $25,000, with
which it is proposed to build a storehouse of cheap construction
which will enable us to get along there unless Some considerable emer-
gency should come along, in which case we will have to do the best
we can. But with this amount we can get along in ordinary times.
Here is a map of Benicia Arsenal, which is skirted along the water-
side by the Central Pacific Railroad running along here [indicating],
and there is a spur which runs into the arsenal ground at this point.
These are the main buildings of the arsenal right in this region.
Here are the shops and offices. Here is the storehouse which is
already there, and here is another storehouse which is already at the
arsenal, and now it is proposed to build a storehouse of small size,
an issuing storehouse of rather cheap construction, at this point right
alongside of the spur, which will require about §ſº ,000 of the $25,000
estimated for. Then we expect to build alongside of that not much
more than a storage shed composed partly of material taken from a
stable which is inconveniently situated and of which the frame is
pretty good, which will be taken down and reerected at this point.
It preparing for the foundations for these buildings certain ma-
terial will be excavated, because it is hilly ground, and that material
will be used in filling up swampy ground which will have to carry
part of the foundation of the building and Some further Swamp
alongside here [indicating on map.], which will give out-of-door
storage space near the railroad, which is very considerably needed.
Then what is left will be used to fill up some further marshy space
along the railroad there as far as it will go, all of which is shown on
this plan. The building which it is expected to put up, the first one
I mentioned, is shown in general construction by this sketch indi-
ºating].
The CHAIRMAN. How big a building is it to be?
Gen. CROZIER. In dimensions 138 by 55, containing about 7,500 feet.
The CITAIRMAN. And it is to cost $17,000?
Gen. CROzriºr. Yes; it will be rather cheaply built of reinforced
concrete foundation and walls, and it will not be fireproof, although
it will be what they call fire-resistant; that is to say, it will not be
*asily set on fire.
The CHAIRMAN: What do you want to store in that building?
Gen. Crozi Dr. We will put in that building stores which can be
described as those which are needed for the retail issue business of
the arsenal. Penicia Arsenal, you know, issues stores for all kinds
of troops for the Pacific coast. It is the only arsenal we have on the
Pacific coast, and this storehouse will be used in the first place as an
348 sun DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
issuing store and also to store those goods which are in constant use
as distinguished from those which are put away in reserve.
The CHAIRMAN. They are the finished goods?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why should they not be sent over to Fort Mason
and stored there? - -
Gen. CROZIER. If they were sent over to Fort Mason we would have
to send over a personnel to handle them.
The CHAIRMAN. Even so, you would have all the stores there to-
gether. That is the great supply depot on the Pacific coast.
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; that is right.
The CHAIRMAN. That is where they all ought to be stored.
Gen. CROZIER. Then we will have to have an ordnance personnel
over there to issue them. You see there is a great deal of issuing
and a great deal of receiving done at these arsenals; things that are
constantly coming in for renovation, old things, or perhaps obsolete
things which have to be sold.
The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of efficient business, would it not be
better to have all the stores ready for issue issued from one point?
Gen. CROZIER. No ; I do not think it would.
The CHAIRMAN. If we were going to load a lot of supplies for the
Philippine Islands or Hawaii, if they were stored at Fort Mason
they would be loaded on a vessel right at the wharf? -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. It would be very inconvenient to load those sup-
plies at Benicia.
Gen. CROZIER. The supplies, in all probability, would be sent down
from Benicia by a barge to Fort Mason, and those to go out to the
Philippines and Hawaii would be sent, down and delivered in large
quantities. It is the retail issuing which is done here and the loading
is done on railroad cars which run all over the Pacific coast, which
could not be done at Fort Mason. There is not any railroad connec-
tion at Fort Mason. *
The CHAIRMAN. What are you doing now in the absence of the
storehouse? -
Gen. CROZIER. We are getting along inconveniently, using a re-
stricted space in one of these other storehouses and keeping away
from there stores that ought to be there.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are those stores kept 3 -
Gen. CROZIER. They are kept back at the manufacturing arsenals.
You see, this is a very considerable reduction from the plan that
has been presented to you before, and this reduction involves making
use of the storage space at such places as Fort Mason and to a cer-
tain extent at the fortifications themselves instead of having the
stores kept at Benicia. *
Mr. SHERLEY. What have you got at Benicia Arsenal, roughly
speaking, in the way of a plant? *
Gen. CROZIER. We have a machine shop, carpenter shop, and foun-
dry. The main purpose for which we keep those things there is to
effect repairs on the Pacific coast both of seacoast armament and
of certain articles of arms and equipment in the hands of the mobile
army that are sent in and are not transported halfway across the
continent for repairs. We do there a certain amount of small man-
ufacturing, mainly for the purpose of keeping on hand a force of
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 349
workmen able to do the repair work, which is always spasmodic. It
has not been considered heretofore an economical manufacturing place
on account of the scarcity of fuel and the high price of labor.
Whether we will be able to do work by electric power at such prices
às will change that in the future is somewhat problematical. We are
now using electric power altogether, which we get from commercial
SOUII*CCS. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. One of the things I am impresséd with is that you
have the Presidio, you have Fort Mason and you have Benicia; and
then the Navy has various establishments, some of which it owns,
and then it has certain leases touching dry docks, etc. All of that is
within what might be called San Francisco, using that expression
not as indicating a town, but a point as a supply base for the Army
and Navy. Is it not conceivable that something might be done to
consolidate a lot of these places, so as to both save cost and increase
efficiency? I am struck with one suggestion just made by the chair-
man, and which has been made here from time to time. Here at
Fort Mason you are handling a certain character of Army stuff, and
a little distance away, at Benicia Arsenal, you are handling another,
and at the Presidio you have a great deal of land. It is true it is
very valuable land, and some of it could well afford to be sold to
San Francisco * --- -
Gen. CROZIER (interposing). You think it looks like a duplication
of facilities? +. \ -
Mr. SHERLEY. I am wondering whether we are not more scattered
than we ought to be. -
Gen. CROZIER. As far as that is concerned, this arsenal at Benicia
is better situated than either the Presidio or Fort Mason for the
purpose I have been speaking of, namely, to keep the troops on the
coast supplied, because it has railroad facilities. It connects right
up with all the lines of that region and of the country, for that
matter, which is not the case at either Fort Mason or the Presidio.
When articles come there in great bulk and are to be shipped after-
wards by transports across the Sea, Fort Mason is a good place to
ship them from, but that is not the kind of work that is done at
Benicia Arsenal. -
Mr. SHERLEY. If Fort Mason has not railroad facilities, can it
be a good place to ship from under any conditions?
Gen. CROZIER. It is rather expensive to get the stuff to it because
it has to be sent there partly by vessel, but when you do that in very
large quantities and are not doing it all the time, it does not increase
the cost very much. Besides that, you have to have some place that
the vessel can get up to.
Mr. SHERLEy. What does Fort Mason do? What is its purpose?
Gen. CROZIER. Fort Mason is now mainly a depot of the Quarter-
master's Department. It was originally part of the defense of San
Francisco, and had a little battery there and one company of Coast
Artillery and a couple of 8-inch guns; originally a couple of 10-inch
Smooth-bore guns, which were replaced by a couple of 8-inch rifles;
but it is not regarded of value now for that purpose, and the land,
which is a small quantity right in San Francisco—the city is all
around it—is used mainly for the people who belong to the quarter-
master’s depot. It is on a small bit of land down on the shore, where
they have put up these storehouses and where they have built wharves
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for the transports. It is rather restricted, however. I do not know
whether the Quartermaster’s Department thinks it is ideal for its
work or not. Perhaps they do. I am not informed. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What sort of water facilities have you at Benicia?
Gen. CROZIER. Carquinez Strait runs right by there, and we have
deep water; but whether it is deep enough for Ocean-going steamers
or not, I do not know. None ever goes up to Benicia.
Col. BABBITT. They anchor right off there in the straits.
Gen. CROZIER. But they can not get up to our wharf. It is not built
out far enough. -
Mr. SHERLEY. You could make a deep-water landing there?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes; by extending the wharf out, if it was thought
worth while.
INCREASING WATER, SUPPLY.
The CHAIRMAN. For increasing the water supply, $20,000. What
is the necessity of this item? w
Gen. CROZIER. The necessity for that arises from the fact that they
have at Benicia a long dry season during which they have to retain
constantly on hand a supply of Water in the reservoirs for fire pur-
poses. If we were free to use all the Water that our reservoirs out
there would hold we would probably not need any more, but we
always have to keep a certain margin in case of fire, and this $20,000
is intended for an additional new reservoir by putting a dam across
a valley shown in this position on the plan. There are now at the
arsenal only two reservoirs. One of them has a capacity of about
2,250,000 gallons, which is this one [indicating], and the other one
has a capacity of about 250,000 gallons, and these reservoirs will be
connected up with the new one. -
The CHAIRMAN. Would it not be cheaper to run a line to the water
and put in a pump for fire purposes?
Gen. CROZIER. Unfortunately it is not fresh water. We do that to
a certain extent, but at certain seasons of the year and at low tide
when the sea has gone out, you can get brackish water there and we
do have a pump and make some use of it.
Mr. SHERLEY. For fire purposes salt water is just as good as fresh
Water.
Gen. CROZIER. That would do for fire purposes; yes. You would
have to have a larger pump than we have there and we would use
these same water mains, of course. This water we have, such of it as
we can use right along, we can use for sprinkling also. You under-
stand there is no rain from May to February.
The CHAIRMAN. You have never suffered from a lack of water out
there yet?
Gen. CROziBR. In a way we are suffering all the time at certain
portions of this post and we can not at any time do the amount of
sprinkling that ought to be done. The main reason for it, however,
as I say, is on account of the fire protection.
Mr. SHERLEY. Have you considered the possibility of putting in
some gasoline pumps to afford your fire facilities from the ocean'
Gen. CROZIER. That has been considered; yes. What commends
this plan as against that is that by reason of adding this reservoir
we would have a margin for fire purposes, and of course we would
have something over that margin, because in putting in a new thing
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like this we do not limit ourselves to our strict requirements, and we
could use the surplus for purposes for which we could not use the
salt Water. . ‘. .
Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, in that way you would get additional
fresh water? -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. But, assuming you got sufficient fresh water if you
do not have to hold it for fire protection, it occurs to me it ought
to be very easy to have installed a system by which you could pump
water in case of emergency. .
Gen. CROZIER. We have that arrangement at some places, for in-
stance, Sandy Hook. But if we are going to increase the supply of
fresh water and increase the supply of Sălt water, it would add two
installations, and, I suspect, we would not get out as cheaply.
Mr. SHERLEY. We are simply wondering whether you need to in-
crease your fresh-water supply. - -
Gen. CROZIER. We do need to, although that is not the primary
reason we are asking for this increased capacity. The primary rea-
son is the fire protection. Needing it for that purpose, it is econom-
ical to put in a little larger dam there and have a little more of a
reservoir and be able to use the water, or a part of it, for other pur-
poses for which we need fresh water. We need it somewhat for
manufacturing purposes. -
Mr. SHERIEY. Have you not enough fresh water now if you could
use all you have got? .
Gen. CROZIER. Well, I doubt that. You mean to say if we were
privileged to drain these reservoirs we have there now %
Mr. SHERLEY. Yes; if you were not holding water for firé protec
tion and could use all the water for other purposes and depend ol
pumping Salt Water to take care of fires, would you not have enough
fresh water there? º
Gen. CROZIER. It would be a rather close calculation, but we might
have. - *
FIRE PROTECTION.
The CHAIRMAN. “For increasing facilities for fire protection,
$10,000.” What is this item?
Gen. CROZIER, Some of these fire plugs which we have there are
Supplied by mains which are too small and which are very old.
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you an appropriation for fire protection
one year right after you had a fire there.
Gen. CROZIER. You gave us something. You gave us $6,000.
The CHAIRMAN. For a sprinkling system?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes; for an extension of the sprinkler system.
The CHAIRMAN. That was all you asked ?
Gen. CROZIER. That was all we asked, but we did not promise we
would never ask for any more. Now we want to put in some better
mains to replace old ones and to put in mains of larger size, so as to
get a better flow. You understand, we had some experience with that
fire, and we do not want to repeat it. We also want to put in some
additional fire hydrants at places marked here on the map. The red
º on this map show pretty much what we want to do with the
$10,000. -
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The CHAIRMAN. What are the sizes of the present mains? -
Gen. CROZIER. Four-inch and 6-inch, and we want to put in, many
of them, 8-inch mains.
FRANKFORD ARSENAL, PHILADELPHIA, PA.
The CHAIRMAN. “Frankford Arsenal, Philadelphia, Pa.; For one
tin shop, $72,000.” -
TIN SHOP.
Gen. CROZIER. There is one thing, Mr. Chairman, that it is awfully
hard to prove, and that is if you do not have a certain fire protec-
tion, you are bound to have fires. It is pretty hard to make a demon-
stration of that, but there is one class of protection that I hesitate
Very much not to ask, and that is protection against fire. That is
true, because we do not carry insurance—and it is not good business
to do so—and we do have the fires. That $72,000 for the tin. shop
at the Frankford Arsenal in intended to construct a building about
245 feet long by 55 feet wide. It is intended to house the machinery
for doing all of the sheet-metal work that we have to do at the
arsenal, of which we have a good deal. We have now to make our
artillery ammunition as well as our small-arms ammunition boxes
out of sheet metal, and we make a great many boxes there. We have
to handle this sheet metal now away from the railroad. As you can
see, the railroad runs from there [indicating] to this place [indicat-
ing], and then it has to be taken by cartage. The new shop is to be
put alongside the railroad here [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. You have shops there [indicating] now.
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; along there [indicating]. This findicat-
ing] is a little low building, only 11 feet high, and it is so contracted
and we are so badly off for room that it is impossible to work to
advantage more than one shift, because the product of that one shift
gets in the way of the other, and until you clear it out there is no
room to work.
The CHAIRMAN. You mean to work more than eight hours a day?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; more than eight hours. In addition to
that, this raw material should be provided for. There is no room
in which to store it there, and it must be stored in other buildings
and then carted to that building. The amount of business of this
kind that we do is indicated by the fact that we purchase 600 tons
of this sheet metal every year, and manufacture it into boxes.
The CHAIRMAN. You are going to have this building right on the
railroad track?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; right there. That track [indicating] will
be taken away. This railroad that you see through here ſindicating] .
will be taken away, and it will be moved to this position ſindicating].
It will be right along here [indicating], alongside the building.
That side [indicating] will be taken out, and it will be moved over
here [indicating] to this point, so that the railroad will run along
here between the buildings [indicating], as you see it.
The CHAIRMAN. Does this sum of $72,000 include all of the fittings
and everything else connected with the building?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; that will complete the building, and We
have the equipment now. Of course, I do not mean to say that we
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will never add to the equipment, but we have the machines now in
the other building, and will simply move them over to this building.
EXTENSION OF I,U M RER SHEI).
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Extension of lumber shed,
$22,500.” -
Gen. CROZIER. We want to manufacture at the Frankford Arsenal
shrapnel cases and shell forgings which are made by the use of large
presses. We have never done that at the Frankford Arsenal, but we
have been getting them from outside manufacturers, and we think
that we can advantageously do a portion of this manufacturing at the
arsenal. As you See, it is proposed to extend this lumber shed [indi-
cating] by the building which is shown in red, so that the extension
and elevation would look like this [indicating]. Here is the lumber
shed [indicating] and here is the extention [indicating]. The ex-
tension is to be a little over 100 feet. We think that it will be good
economy to manufacture a portion of this kind of material at the
arsenal.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you now manufacture them at any place at all?
Gen. CROZIER. No, sir; we do not manufacture them anywhere at
all now.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the character of this building—of steel
frame? r g
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; of steel frame, brick walls, concrete founda-
tions, and slate roof, just the same as the lumber shed.
The CHAIRMAN. How large is it to be?
Gen. CROZIER. Over 100 feet long and of the full width of the
lumber shed, which is about 58 feet. -
ExTENSION OF DOUBLE-ACTION PRESS SHOP BUILDING.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Extension of double-action
press shop building, $6,000.” -
Gen. CROZIER. That is shown here [indicating]. The double-action
press shop is a shop where are situated the presses which are used
for the manufacture of cartridge cases, which are pressed out of sheet
brass. There is great lack of space there in which to store the sheet
metal from which those cases are pressed, and a good part of it has
to be stored in a building which we intended to use for the storage
of scrap, which is shown here [indicating]. We have a great deal
of valuable scrap there, and it is desirable that it should not be stored
out of doors. We put it in a building for the purpose of housing and
safeguarding it, because it is worth stealing; but We have to use that
building largely for the storage of new sheet metal, and this exten-
sion will relieve us from that necessity.
The CHAIRMAN. Didn’t we give you a storage building last year?
#en. Crozier. No, sir; it was several years ago that you gave us
that. tº a $ g
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you an appropriation for the extension of
a metal storehouse last year?
Gen. Crozier. Yes, sir; you gave us an appropriation of $13,500
with which to extend it. :
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IMPROVING FA CILITIES OF THE BOILER PLANT.
The CILAIRMAN. The next item is, “Improving facilities of the
boiler plant, $15,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. That is mainly for the purpose of putting in a set
of mechanical stokers for the boilers in the boiler plant. This will
effect a saving in labor by enabling us to dispense with the services
of a fireman, or, perhaps, two, and a helper. It will enable us to
dispense with the services of two employees, and perhaps three, and
that saving will amount to in the neighborhood of $2,000 a year in
their pay. Not only that, but it results in a more economical con-
sumption of coal. We spent there last year about $22,000 for coal,
and we expect a saving in that of from 5 per cent to 10 per cent by
the use of these stokers. In addition to that, they do away with the
smoke nuisance. They have an ordinance in the city of Philadelphia
which forbids the emission of smoke in the air from factories and
other establishments, and, although we are not subject to that Ordi-
nance, we think it but proper consideration on the part of the Gov-
ernment that it should do in that respect what other manufacturers
there are required to do. -
The CHAIRMAN. Then you would be the only one that did not emit
smoke there, would you not? -
Gen. CROZIER. No, sir; the emission of Smoke from factories has
been very largely reduced.
The CHAIRMAN. Just how much economy is there in fuel consump-
tion by the use of these mechanical Stokers?
Gen. CROZIER. The people who put them in want us to think that we
will save 10 per cent; but, coming within that, we think we should
save 7.5 per cent, and that would be about $1,800 a year on the cost
of the fuel which we consume there.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they really believe that a saving of 10 per cent
in the operation of boilers can be effected by the use of those mechan-
ical stokers?
Gen. CROZIER. They say they are willing to guarantee a saving of
10 per cent, but I think that is pretty high. Of course, I would be
very glad if we could do that, but I have thought of a rather more
conservative estimate. Ten per cent on the amount expended for
coal would be about $2,200. That would be the Saving in that item
alone. The saving which we make in the number of employees re-
quired is a very certain one, of course. So that, taking the two sav-
ings together, one in the less amount of fuel consumed and the other
in the smaller number of employees required, I think we can expect
a saving of 15 per cent. That would be taking into consideration,
also, the maintenance and depreciation of those stokers. I think we
would save about 15 per cent on the investment.
The CHAIRMAN. Does the operation of the stoker result in the
consumption of more carbon" -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Does that #. you a higher heat efficiency?
Gen. CROZIER. A higher, efficiency; yes, sir. We can evaporate
more water with the same consumption of coal—that is, We can evap-
orate more water per pound of coal.
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PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL LAND.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For the purchase of additional
land, $130,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. That you have heard of before. You will see where
that land lies with reference to the arsenal from this plat [indicat-
ing]. t
Mr. GILLETT. That is the same thing you had up last year?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir. Here [indicating] is a map of Frankford
Arsenal and its vicinity. I will draw my finger along the boundaries
of the arsenal. Here [indicating] is the Delaware River, and here
[indicating] is the land which we are considering. The city is built
up all about that [indicating], and if we do not get that piece of land
there is no other property available for the extension of the arsenal
grounds. Now, we have certain buildings on the arsenal grounds
which contain explosives and which are now, on account of the erec-
tion of additional buildings and the enlargement of the arsenal,
closer to some other buildings than they ought to be. Some of them
are along here [indicating]. They are magazine buildings, and
they ought to be over here on this land [indicating]. Another con-
sideration is that we do a certain amount of firing. Here [indicat-
ing] is the artillery firing range, and here [indicoting] is the
Small-arms firing range, and if this land should be built upon by
other people for private purposes, particularly for dwelling pur-
poses, we would undoubtedly have trouble from that firing. They
would Want to stop it, and would complain of it as being a nuisance.
The CHAIRMAN. They would not have jurisdiction of it.
Gen. CROZIER. They could not stop us, but they could make life a
burden to the Member of Congress from that locality, and he would
do, as he always has to do, come down and transfer it to us. As the
arsenal stands now, we do not have any frontage on the Delaware
River, and, therefore, we do not have a good chance for loading
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). You have a water frontage at the
junction of the river azid creek.
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; but it would be a good plan for us to
have the water front that would go with that land back here [indi-
cating].
The CHAIRMAN. How much land is in that tract?
Gen. CROZIER. There are 25 acres, and it will cost about $5,000
per acre.
The CHAIRMAN. There were more than 25 acres when this matter
came up before.
Gen. CROZIER. There are just about 25 acres. It may possibly be
26 acres.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know you can get it for $130,000?
Gen. CROZIER. That is my information now. It belongs to an
estate, and it has been devised to the University of Pennsylvania,
so there does not seem to be any opportunity for a private deal in
the transaction. Now, you have expended at Frankford Arsenal in
the last 10 years something like $500,000 in the increase of the plant,
and you have imposed upon us by legislation the duty of manufac-
turing everything that we use which is of a class that we can manu-
facture at our own arsenals. All of that goes to show that this is
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a very live sort of place, and we have to look out for its efficient
maintenance and operation.
Now, any private corporation being in that situation would acquire
possession of that land, if they could get it at anything like a rea-
sonable price, as we are able to do at present. There is another
economy to be effected by the purchase of this land which arises
from the necessity we are now under of shipping artillery ammuni-
tion that is manufactured at the Frankford Arsenal to the Picatinny
Arsenal, in New Jersey, for storage and reshipment to the Service.
If we had this land, we would have room for putting all of the
storehouses there, and by that means We would avoid that shipment.
The CHAIRMAN. If we should authorize you to buy this land, you
would immediately come back here and request money with which to
put something on it. *
Gen. CROZIER. We would certainly use it, and we could not use it
without spending something on it. You would have to look forward
in the estimates to some construction work on that land, because
otherwise there would be no use in having it. -
PICATINNY ARSENAL.
PlURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL I,AND.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask $10,000 for the purchase of additional
land at the Picatinny Arsenal. Is that the same thing we had
before? -
Gen. CROZIER. That is the same thing. We have had it up several
times before.
The CHAIRMAN. Have they raised the price?
Gen. CROZIER. You could have acquired it several years ago for
$7,500, but now you can not get it for less than $10,000. There is a
good deal of necessity for this.
The CHAIRMAN. If you should start a rifle range down there the
price would tumble.
Gen. CROZIER. That would cost us more than what would be re-
quired to get the land. You can see how it juts out into our own land
here [indicating], and there are some valuable springs of water on
it which we ought to control. The Water question at the Picatinny
Arsenal is one of some magnitude, particularly since we have to
manufacture all of our powder, as We are required to do at present.
We think this purchase ought to be made before the price goes up
any more. {
ROCIK ISLAND ARSENAL.
[See p. 373.
I N ('IrlöASING FIRE-PROTECTION FACHILITIES.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask $10,300 for increasing the facilities for
fire protection at the Rock Island Arsenal. We gave you all you
asked for this purpose last year, and now you are asking this $10,300.
Gen. CROZIER. I will show you what that is for. I have never come
before you feeling that I was able to press for all that was required
at an arsenal in a single bill, and it has been rather impressed upon
me that I had better string it out or put off some things
The CIIAIRMAN (interposing). Last year we gave you $8,222, and
it was thought that that would be ample to safeguard this arsenal.
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Gen. CROZIER. This is what we intend to do: It is intended to put
an 8-inch main across here [indicating] and put some fire plugs in
two places there ſindicating], so as to afford protection to the two
storehouses. It is also intended to buy with that $10,300 a fire engine.
The CHAIRMAN. How many ?
Gen. CROZIER. We have a fire engine there now which has been in
use since about 1865, and it is entirely worn out. We expect to re-
place it out of this $10,300 by putting in a new fire engine with auto-
mobile transportation. The present one is an old steam fire engine
drawn by horses, and it is nearly 50 years old.
The CHAIRMAN. Last year you said that the shops were pretty
well protected.
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; they are fairly well protected.
The CHAIRMAN. I asked you last year whether, if this $8,222 were
given you, there would be anything else necessary in connection with
fire protection, and in answer you said:
Not that I know of now. That will protect all the line of officers' quarters and
the public stables. The shops are pretty Well looked after. I am not dead sure
we will not in the future call for some additions to the sprinkling system, espe-
cially if we put stores in some of the places we now have not got then in but
which We may have to fill up, but there is nothing immediate.
Now you ask $10,300 for this purpose.
Gen. CROZIER. I am not adding any sprinkling system now. Here
is the trouble: these mains running down there run down to a dead
end, and you can not use one main to help the flow around this side
of two large shop buildings to the other. However, I will say this,
that I do not consider that that is of as much importance as the fire
engine, because we have some buildings here not reached by fire
mains, and this old engine, 50 years old, is the only reliance. It
would be practically of no use in case of fire. Therefore, if you feel
that you do not wish to make that appropriation now, cut it in two,
and I will use what is left for the fire engine.
ROAD REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. For road repairs you are asking $18,000.
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you last year all that you asked.
Gen. CROZIER. I stated last year that it would repuire $24,000 to
repair the entire road, and that I would use $6,000, or one-fourth of
it, and would ask for the remainder of the amount later. That road
is nearly 3 miles long, and, as I explained last year, it has been
pretty well torn up by automobile traffic. It is impossible for us to
maintain it out of our general fund for the maintenance of the
arsenal. However, after we rebuild it, I think that I may be able
to maintain it without asking an increase of the general fund for
that purpose. As I explained last year, we hope to put a sort of
dustless covering on it so that there may not be so much sprinkling
necessary, and by that means save $1,000 a year which we could put
in ordinary repairs occasioned by automobile traffic. Now, the ap-
propriation of $6,000 which you made last year became available so
late in the year that we could not use any of it last year, and, there-
fore, we still have it. I expect this winter to buy the materials and
get at this road in the spring and finish it up in one season. That
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will also be the most economical way of doing it. I have not any-
thing to add in the way of information about that road to what I
told you last year in my hearings.
The CHAIRMAN. You have not started to build the road?
Gen. CROZIER. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Last year they would not allow you to ask for
more than $6,000, because they did not want to swell the estimates?
Gen. CROZIER. I can not think of any other reason.
The CHAIRMAN. But this year, with the Treasury in a much worse
condition, they let you put in an estimate of $18,000 instead of $6,000.
Does anybody know what is happening to the Treasury of the United
States just now Ż
Gen. CROZIER. That is only temporary.
STOREHOUSE FOR STORAGE OF OILs, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For a storehouse for the storage
of oils, etc., and its equipment, $15,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. We have a small oil storage space at the arsenal now
for oils which are used for manufacturing purposes at the arsenal
itself, but this refers to oils, paint, cleaning materials, and other
inflammable substances, of which we have a good many for issue to
the service. Those materials are now kept in an expensive store-
house, which is near the place where we propose to put the oil store-
house, and which also contains a great many valuable stores. That
storehouse occupies the position of its predecessor which, with two
or three million dollars’ worth of goods in the same, was destroyed by
fire about 10 years ago. Now, we expect to put this building in the
rear of that storehouse—
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Where is that material stored now %
Gen. CROZIER. It is now stored in this storehouse I have referred
to, along with the other stores.
The CHAIRMAN. Of what type will the building be?
Gen. CROZIER. It will be a low building, with a sort of basement
entrance on one side, and it will be closed on the other. It will be
made of brick and will have a slate roof. Its dimensions are shown
in this sketch [indicating]. Here [indicating] is an underground
tunnel which will connect it with the storehouse here [indicating],
which is close to it. That will run under the railroad track. The
entrance will be on this side [indicating], and the building will be
closed on the side toward this storehouse. It is a very low building
and is shown in sections here.
The CHAIRMAN. What are the dimensions?
Gen. CROZIER. One hundred and forty-seven feet long by 32 feet
wide. It will be a building of one low story.
i{E}” A RS 'I'O RRI I) (; l.
The CIIAIRMAN. General, you are asking that the unexpended bal-
ance of the appropriation of $5,500 for replacing sidewalks and re:
painting all metal work of the bridge between Rock Island Arsenal
and the city of Rock Island, Ill., made in the sundry civil appropria-
tion act for the fiscal year 1915 shall continue available during the
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fiscal year 1916, and that, in addition, $12,500 be appropriated for
repairs to the bridge and viaduct. Is that the same bridge?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; the same bridge.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the trouble?
Gen. CROZIER. The trouble is that the roadway of that bridge con-
sists of brick pavement which is laid on planks, and those planks,
making a flooring, rest on crossties, which rest on iron girders. The
plank flooring and the upper part of the crossties have rotted away,
which became evident when we started to make the repairs for which
you appropriated last year. We did not finish the job. We spent
a portion of the appropriation to relay the sidewalks and we did a
certain amount of painting, but left a portion of this brick pavement
which had to be taken up. We simply put it back loosely—did not
replace it properly—because we knew it had to come up again in
order to make the repairs which I am asking for this year. The
unexpended balance does not amount to much; I do not remember
the exact amount; a considerable portion has already been expended.
REPAIRs To strop H–REAPPROPRIATION.
[See p. 373.]
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking also for the reappropriation of
the unexpended balance of the appropriation of $65,000 for repairing
the foundations and walls of shop H !
Gen. CROZIER. I am glad to say that the progress we have made in
examining that project makes it very likely that we will be able to
accomplish what we wanted with the $65,000. When I asked you
for the money I told you that I was not certain that we could accom-
plish the object at all, but now we think we shall be able to. It is a
large piece of work and can not be done in the closed season very
well. The probabilities are that it will extend on beyond the close
of the present fiscal year, and if it should we should like to be able
to continue the work and to expend what is necessary to finish it out
of the appropriation already made.
Mr. SHERLEY. Would the appropriation otherwise lapse?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir. The sundry civil bill is headed “Appro-
priations for sundry civil expenses of the Government for the fiscal
year ending June 30, 1915,” and me interpret it as a limited appro-
priation, an appropriation with a limited life.
k1.JP Al RS TO A RSEN A I, RU, I I, 1) I N (; .
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For repairs to arsenal building,
$2,400.”
Gen. CROZIER. “Arsenal building ” is rather a queer name to give it,
but it is a detached building used for storage purposes down near
the railroad. Here [indicating] are the main buildings and here is
the arsenal building. It is quite a large building and rather a fine
building. It has a clock on it. I mention that simply to indicate
the character of the building. You do not put clocks generally on
insignificant buildings. The basement of that building, which is a
partial basement, the windows extending a little above the ground,
is damp and not good for storage purposes, and as we are hampered
for storage space, we should make use of it. It is intended to con-
struct an areaway around that, which will extend down to the base-
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ment floor. It will not be very wide, only 2 or 3 feet wide, not a
place to walk around, but just enough to keep it dry. I think the
building is good enough to be worth that.
COAL BINS AND COAL-HOISTING APPARATUs FoR BoILER HousF.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For coal bins and coal-hoisting
apparatus for boiler house of Shop F, $5,500.”
Gen. CROZIER. That is to avoid the teaming and handling of coal
for the boiler house. Here [indicating] is the place that it is to go,
Mr. Chairman. This ſindicating] is the double row of shops at the
arsenal. Here ſindicating] is the middle one on the north side. In
this Small building the boilers are placed, and it is alongside of that
that this coal apparatus is to go. We now have to team the coal in
and handle it by hand. It is expensive. We intend to run a spur
of this railroad [indicating] in there with a conveyer system, which
has been very successful at other arsenals and very successful at this,
arsenal on the opposite side, and we intend to handle the coal in a
better Way. This ſindicating] shows the arrangement. *
The CHAIRMAN. It is a desirable but not an imperative improve-
ment?
Gen. CROZIER. It could properly be classed as that. It is worth
the money. -
Mr. SIERLEY. What sort of saving do you expect to make?
Gen. CROZIER. I do not know whether We have that completely
figured out here. I can give you a statement as to the conditions
by which you can make an estimate whether the saving would be
large or small. The present coal bin we have there holds something
less than 100 tons. It is necessary to unload the greater portion of
the coal from the cars onto the ground and to reload it on Wagons
and wheelbarrows and haul it to the boilers. --
The CHAIRMAN. How many tons? t
Gen. CROZIER. It will hold about 100 tons. The new one will hold
very considerably more. In the handling of the coal, particularly
in the cold weather, when we have to make a great deal of steam
for heating purposes, we sometimes have to use three or four teams
a day. Much of the transportation at the Rock Island Arsenal is
hired transportation, and we have to pay $6 a day for a team. Dur-
ing a part of the year we have to use $18 to $24 a day simply in hiring
these wagons. We would do away with a very great portion of that.
Of course, that does not go on all the time.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the coal capacity there a day?
Gen. CROZIER. I have not that here; I can give it to you.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is it very considerable?
Gen. CROZIER. Not in proportion to the size of the establishment,
because our power there is obtained from the Mississippi River. We
use electric power; but more coal than you would think is used for
heating, and it is also required for certain manufactures, for making
iron castings, and for blacksmithing processes.
Mr. MoRDELL. It is rather extraordinary that a boiler plant of any
considerable size and a considerable consumption of coal would be
built, in the first place, without trackage?
Gen. Crozier. That is true. I presume they were pressed for
umoney, as we always are, and that they simply did not have the
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, Mr. MoRDELL. What is the distance that they haul by wagon?
Gen. CROZIER. It is not very far. I think you can get the coal
within a couple of hundred yards of the building. The necessity of
having the teams makes it expensive.
. . Mr. MoRDELL. Any considerable boiler plant should be constructed
with trackage? -
Gen. CROZIER. It should, and with all mechanical improvements
for handling the coal from the cars. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. Is this for trackage facilities?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoR DELL. It does not cost so much to toss the coal out of the
car. You could run a track in there for a small portion of the money
you ask? - - t
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; that would not cost very much. Most of
it would have to be unloaded in the open in that case.
MA INTENANCE AND Ol’ERATION OF POW ER PLANT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For maintenance and opera-
tion of power plant, $12,500.” Is this the water plant? 8
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; the same amount we ask for every year.
The CHAIRMAN. My recollection is there were statements made
that it is costing you very much more to generate power at this
arsenal than at the Frankford Arsenal. How do you account for
that? Please put in the record a statement of the cost of producing
power at both places.
Gen. CROZIER. In July, 1913, the cost of electric power as produced
at Frankford Arsenal was $0.01 per kilowatt-hour. Since that date
a new 750-kilowatt direct-connected steam-turbine set has been in-
stalled, but we have not yet data as to the Saving in cost of power
effected by that installation. I can not give you exact figures as to
the cost of power at Rock Island Arsenal, although the commanding
officer has been requested to furnish it. However, it can be stated
to be less than 1 cent per kilowatt-hour and probably not less than
half a cent. & “
ROCIK I SLAND TRRIDGES AND WI AD UCT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For operating, care, and pres-
ervation of Rock Island bridges and viaduct, and for maintenance
and repair of the arsenal street connecting the bridges, $18,000.”
How much did you have left last year?
Gen. CROZIER. We did not have any left. We had to spend for
superintendent, $1,733.75; three draw operators, $2,656.75; two draw
tenders, $1,642.50; sweeper, $626; 12 guards, $8,064; telephone rent,
$60; and for the purchase of different classes of material—lumber,
oil, and electrical supplies—for this plant which is necessary to
* it, $3,220, which makes up the $18,000. We get part of it
8;CK.
Mr. SHERLEY. Your statement here does not show that it was all
expended. - gº
Gen. CROZIER. I was giving you the expenditures for the fiscal
year 1914. -
Mr. SHERLEY. This shows a grand total of $17,264.45.
Gen. CROZIER. That is pretty close to $18,000.
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PROVING GROUND, SANDY HOOK, N. J.
STOREHOUSE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Proving Ground, Sandy Hook,
N. J.: For one storehouse, $10,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. That is an estimate for the construction of a store-
house to replace two old frame shacks which have been shaken to
pieces by the gunfire of the proof battery. It is too expensive to
keep them standing up. This will provide for a small building
which we will put in this location [indicating]. Here [indicating]
is the wharf where you land. New York is in your direction [indi-
cating]. Here [indicating] is the Atlantic Ocean, out here. Here
[indicating] is the proof battery. Here [indicating] would be the
location of this small building, which would be constructed of re-
inforced concrete.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are the old ones? g
Gen. CROZIER. Right on the same site, to be replaced. They are
near the same site. These [indicating] are the two which will be
replaced.
The CHAIRMAN. What is stored there? ;
Gen. CROZIER. Breech blocks, and tools and appliances that are
used in the proof battery.
(; RAD ING IFIRING RANGE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For grading the firing range
from the proof battery to the 2,500-yard target, $10,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. That is shown on this plan. The portion it is de-
sired to grade is shown in red. That terrain is such as is formed
always by the joint action of the water and winds, which is re-
sponsible for the whole of Sandy Hook, and the reason for the
grading is that the rough ground is too difficult for us to measure
ranges over. We have to do a good deal of experimental firing with
our field guns, and the accuracy of the work is less than it should be
on account of the roughness of this ground. We do not propose to
grade it very smooth, to make it anything like a lawn, but it should
be smoothed out.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you think that it wil
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir.
Mr. STI ERLEY. Is that under water at all'
(Hen. CROZIER. No, sir.
Mr. SIIICRLEY. In case of a storm 7
Gen. CROZIER. The edge of it is subject to be beaten by storms.
In the past we have had a good deal of trouble with the water occa-
sionally Scouring out a very considerable area on that side [indi-
Cating], but by working over that problem for a number of years
and building jetties along out from the shore we have stopped that.
Mr. SHERLEY. The grading would only be subject to the ordinary
wind and rain' *
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir. .
Mr. MoR DELL. Is the roughness of the ground due to any con-
siderable extent to the wind action ? - s -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; to a very considerable extent.
| “stay put "?
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Mr. MONDELI. If you change the present contours, will not the
Wind proceed to do it over again?
Gen. CROZIER. There is a little vegetation which grows when it has
a chance.
Mr. MoRDELL. Will the wind not loosen it up and blow it away?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; but we will try to preserve enough so that
it will grow quickly. Maybe we will have bad luck with it, but I
hope that we will make it stand.
I'II,ILING RAILROAD TRESTLE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For permanently filling a por-
tion of the railroad trestle connecting Sandy Hook Reservation with
Highland Beach, including necessary concrete culverts, $25,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. Sandy Hook is connected with the mainland by a
very narrow neck and along that neck runs a wagon road and the
railroad. The railroad is our principal means of transportation
for heavy supplies, coal, heavy guns, etc. We have for passengers
and light freight a boat which runs down from New York. The sea
has been doing harm down there for a long time and quite recently
it has done a great deal of harm. I have a series of photographs
here which show something of what happened there in the last
storm. Looking at this map, the Atlantic Ocean is on the side
toward you ſindicating] ; this [indicating] is Highland Beach down
here [indicating]. This [indicating] is the commencement of Sandy
Hook. The great body of the Hook is to the northward. Here
[indicating] is Shrewsbury River and here [indicating] is the nar-
row neck of land. Here [indicating] is the line of railroad running
down on the trestle and here [indicating] is a line of riprap stone
wall which was made to protect this narrow neck of land which used
to get every once in a while washed entirely out by the action of
the sea. - -
Mr. GILLETT. What river is that %
Gen. CROZIER. The Shrewsbury River, and the bay farther north.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that neck of land a couple of hundred feet
wide?
Gen. CROZIER. Something like that. That is two or three hundred
feet. This trestle now needs repairs. Like every other wooden
construction it requires renewal, and what we propose is to replace
a considerable portion of it by filling it in.
The CIIAIRMAN. With what? -
Gen. CROZIER. With sand, and then provide a way through it
with culverts for the water. This riprap wall is subject to the di-
rect action of the waves. With this construction we will just have
Smooth running water, and if we can take care of that through
culverts we think that we can get rid of the difficulty; the action will
be the action of running Water and not the action of violent waves.
Mr. GILLETT. How much above the ordinary level of the sea does
the wall come? { t
Gen. CROZIER. At high water waves dash over it: that is, they
come over the bulkhead a little lower down, which is on the prop-
erty of the Jersey Central road. You can see a wave breaking over
it in this photograph.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this our road or the Jersey Central'
364 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Gen. CROZIER. The Jersey Central, which is below ours.
The CHAIRMAN. You just propose to fill that with sand?
Gen. CROZIER. We want to fill that trestle all up with sand—fill
it in.
The CHAIRMAN. Pump it in •
Gen. CROZIER. No, sir; we will probably put it in with cars.
Mr. MoRDELL. How high is that?
Gen. CROZIER. The trestle is probably 8 or 9 feet above the ordinary
surface of the ground. g
The CHAIRMAN. The sand could be pumped in quickly
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir. That would have to be done under con-
tract, and will be done in that way if anybody will do it cheaper.
The CHAIRMAN. Will the sand hold' -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; if we put proper culverts in place and
allow the Water to run off that will accumulate between the fill and
the riprap wall.
The CHAIRMAN. Will that make a sufficiently solid bed?
Gen. CROZIER. If it will only stay there the sand will make a very
good bed.
Mr. GILLETT. Why should not the Water wash it right away?
Gen. CROZIER. The part behind that riprap Wall is not subject to
the violent action of the waves.
Mr. GILLETT. As I understand now it does Wash it away; it goes
over there and washes it away?
Gen. CROZIER. Not so much. The principal trouble now is that We
have to rebuild the trestle and to put in new beams and replace Some
of the piles, and that is expensive.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is the trestle? -
Gen. CROZIER. Nearly a mile long. We do not intend to fill in the
whole mile, but only to fill in about 400 feet at the upper end, and
2,900 feet at the lower end; about 3,300 feet altogether—something
over half a mile.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is there not danger of the water coming over and
eventually washing the sand out?
Gen. CROZIER. If it came over violently it would, but with the
concrete culverts we think the action of the Water will not be very
violent except just where it goes through the culverts, and We expect
to meet that. It is a troublesome problem. The Jersey Central
Railroad and the residents of Seabright, Highland Beach, and those
little places, have a great deal of trouble and their property is con-
tinually in jeopardy. *
Mr. GILLETT. Is this our railroad'
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; our railroad.
STABLE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For one stable, $8,000.” Did
we not make an appropriation for that stable?
Gen. CROZIER. No, sir; you never did. I have been talking to you
about that stable for a good many years but have never secured any
money for it. It is in such condition now that it would be a waste
of money to repair it. It is a little frame structure and the Walls
are all rotting. There [indicating] is the condition of some of the
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lower timbers of the building. It is on its last legs. I do not want
to spend any more money in replacing the rotten parts.
The CHAIRMAN. How many animals will it take care of ?
Col. BABBITT. Twelve horses.
The CHAIRMAN. And how many carts?
Col. BABBITT. None. -
The CHAIRMAN. Just for 12 horses?
Col. BABBITT. Yes, sir; the carts are put in a shed outside.
Gen. CROZIER. Col. Babbitt can tell you all about that, because he
has just come from command at Sandy Hook, where he had been for
Some time. -
Mr. MoRDELL. How many animals?
Gen. CROZIER. Twelve. .
Mr. MoRDELL. And carriage space?
Gen. CROZIER. No, sir; the horses we have down there occupy this
little stable. - - * .
Mr. MoRDELL. What is this stable to be constructed of, brick or
stone? -
Gen. CROZIER. Concrete. We Want to make it fireproof. It is the
kind of a structure that it is economical to put up if you are building
permanently.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a building?
Gen. CROZIER. Here [exhibiting] is a plan of it. The dimensions
are not shown on here.
Mr. MoRDELL. I suppose there is no necessity of a building for ap-
pearances' sake at Sandy Hook? -
Gen. CROZIER. Not at all. We are only building here a structure
which, we hope, will stay put and which will not be expensive for
renewal, the most economical structure we can build; that is, regard-
ing its permanency and regarding the necessity for keeping it in
repair. There is no occasion for its having an ornamental appear-
ance at all, because it is not in a conspicuous part of the grounds.
Col. BABBITT. The dimensions are about 105 feet by 30 feet, with
a wagon storage at One end. --
The CHAIRMAN. Is it to be for wagon storage also :
Gen. CROZIER. The present stable, which is about ready to fall
down, has in it no room for Wagons, and the Wagons are kept under
a wooden shed alongside of it, which in itself is rather dilapidated.
This little group of buildings form the stables. Here is the one we
have there now and which will be demolished, and these are frame
structures. This is the shed building under which vehicles are kept
ſindicating].
Mr. GILLETT. What kind of horses do you have there; work horses?
Gen. CROZIER. Work horses mostly, and some of the officers have
saddle horses and they are entitled to stabling for them.
SPRINGFIELD ARSENAL, MAss.
COAL IRINS AND CONVEYORS.
The CHAIRMAN. “Springfield Arsenal, Springfield, Mass.: For
the erection of new coal bins, including conveyors and hoppers for
transferring coal from cars to bins, $14,500.”
Gen. CROZIER. The coal bins we have at the Springfield Armory
now are made of wood and the coal has to be put into them by being
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unloaded from the cars on wagons and then hauled up a long wooden
inclined plane and dumped into the coal bins from the top, and the
whole thing is very ramshackle and needs reconstruction. It has
rotted away, the way that kind of construction always does. It has
been further weakened, due to the fact that last summer the thing
caught fire, the middle of the coal pile caught fire from spontaneous
combustion, and the floor burned away so that that would have to be
rebuilt in any case. We propose to put a proper reinforced concrete
and metal coal bin there with a conveyor system so that the coal
will be unloaded directly from the cars into the bins. Something
will have to be done in any case, and it is not economical to spend
any more money on the old timber bins.
The CHAIRMAN. How much coal do you burn there every year?
Gen. CROZIER. Considerably more than we do at Rock Island
Arsenal, because we use it for power. r
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know the number of tons?
Gen. CROZIER. For the fiscal year ending June 30, 1913, 4,836 tons
of coal were expended at Springfield Armory.
REPAIRS TO STREET.
The CHAIRMAN. “For repairing streets, $7,200.” Is this inside or
outside the arsenal? w
Gen. CROZIER. We got an appropriation for the outside street last
year, and this is entirely for the inside street. It is the street called
Federal Street, which runs between two parts of the arsenal.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought that street was in very fine shape. I
never heard any complaint about that at all. I thought it was the
outside street—Pearl Street.
Gen. CROZIER. We fixed that up last year.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the matter with Federal Street?
Gen. CROZIER. Federal Street is roughened by the automobile
traffic, the way they all are, and the surface has to be replaced by one
of these automobile-resisting roadways.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is this street?
Gen. CROZIER. It is 1,300 feet long. •
The CHAIRMAN. That would be at the rate of $28,000 a mile.
Mr. GILLETT. I do not think that can be all for Federal Street,
because they did all the work on Pearl Street for $9,000, and that is
a great deal longer. This must be for other streets also.
Gen. CROZIER. There is not as much traffic on Pearl Street as Fed-
eral Street. .
Mr. GILLETT. Oh, yes. -
The CHAIRMAN. We build the finest automobile roads, 16 feet
wide, in the most expensive places to build them for between $10,000
and $15,000 a mile. *
Mr. GILLETT. I think the chances are that this includes other
places, like Lincoln Street, which is also in the grounds. I do not
think that can all be for Federal Street.
Gen. CROZIER. According, to the estimate here, it is all estimated
for Federal Street. Of course, it is a good deal more than 16 feet
wide. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Where does the wear on that street come from
from city traffic?
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Gen. CROZIER. Largely from city traffic and our own traffic also,
but mostly from city traffic. I suppose there are from 10 to 20 vehi-
cles belonging to the city to one of ours that goes over that street.
Mr. SHERLEY. Has the city ever suggested paying for any of the
upkeep of this street?
Gen. CROZIER. The suggestion has not come in yet; no.
Mr. SHERLEY: Do you not think it might be in order to invite
that suggestion?
Mr. GILLETT. Would you let the city do work on Government
grounds? &
Mr. SHERLEY. I would either do that or let them use their own
Streets.
Mr. MoRDELL. How wide a street is it, General? -
Gen. CROZIER. It is 37 feet wide. That is, it is a good wide street,
and, of course, it ought to be paved from curb to curb. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you mean that the roadbed is 37 feet wide?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes.
F1 RE PROTECTION AND BRICEX WAULT.
The CHAIRMAN. “For increasing facilities for fire protection, in-
cluding the construction of a brick vault for safe storage of draw-
ings, master templets, and gauges, $20,000.” Did we not fix up the
fire protection facilities there also?
Gen. .CROZIER. In 1913 was the last appropriation for fire pro-
tection.
The CHAIRMAN. How much 3
Gen. CROZIER. $5,000.
The CHAIRMAN. That was all you asked ?
Gen. CROZIER. I guess that is all I asked. In 1910 we had $5,100
for fire protection; in 1908 we had $4,000 for fire protection, and
then we had nothing for that purpose back to 1903. This is for the
installation of a sprinkler system in the lumber storehouse and in
one of the finishing shops of the armory, in the main office building,
and for a brick vault for the storage of drawings, master templets,
and gauges. This vault is to be fireproof. You know that the equip-
ment of master templets and of gauges for a system of repetition
work like the manufacture of the musket is very expensive, indeed.
It would be a great misfortune if they were lost. It constitutes one
of the most considerable items in a small-arms plant. At Spring-
field Armory the whole subject of interchangeability of the guns is
regulated for both the guns that are manufactured there and for
those manufactured at Rock Island. They all depend upon Spring-
field Armory for the master templets and gauges.
The CHAIRMAN. Where do you store them now?
Gen. CROZIER. They are stored in these buildings, but they are not
fireproof.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is this brick vault going to cost?
Gen. CROZIER. The separate items are as follows:
For Sprinkler System in main office building–––––––––––––––––––––––––– $8,00)
For sprinkler system in old filing Shop 5, 500
For sprinkler system in lumber storehouse 4, 500
For brick vault for drawings, master templetS, and gauges------------ 2,000
Total.---------- * * * * * * * * 20, 000
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Mr. GILLETT. In what building are these vaults going to be built?
Gen. CroziER. One of them is in the main office building and the
other is over near the polishing room in the Hill shops. Both of them
are up at the Hill shops. It will take two of them.
|POW ICR JPl, ANT.
Mr. GILLETT. General, I notice there is no estimate here for some
work which the colonel commanding talked to me about as very
important, the reconstruction of the power plant. I suppose you did
not think it was wise to estimate for that this year or else did not
think it was as imperative as Some other things? r
Gen. CROZIER. I did not think it was a very good year to put that
in. If we were to start up Springfield Armory at full capacity we
ought to have the power plant in better condition than it is. It Ought
to be overhauled. But as I do not see any immediate prospect of
that, and as we can run the armory very well with the power plant
as it is now, I have not thought it worth while to put in an estimate
and I will not unless more careful examination of the question will
show that irrespective of the rate at which we run the armory, it
will afford a good saving on the investment. - -
Mr. GILLETT. The colonel told me he thought it would save about
6 per cent. -
Gen. CROZIER. That is true; but we have not gone into it closely
enough to ascertain that. If we can make out a good case of Saving,
I would be willing to ask for the money; but we do not need the power .
plant now, and we have such a good store of arms that I think we
can trust to the plant we have there, and, as I say, the economy has
not yet been fully demonstrated. 4
WATERTOWN ARSENAL, MASS.
NEW Roof on SMITH SHOP.
The CIIAIRMAN. “Watertown Arsenal, Watertown, Mass.: For re-
placing wooden roof on Smith shop by a steel structure, including the
necessary repairs and alterations to the building, $40,000.” Is this
the beginning or the end of that job?
Gen. CROZIER. It is very near the end.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have we given you, all told?
Gen. CROZIER. When I first submitted that to you I had in view a
project which would cost about $170,000. I have now gone over that
again. - -
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you get of that amount?
Gen. CROZIER. I have only had by appropriation $10,000, but I have
allotted out of some of my general funds about $26,000, so that I have
put into the project about $36,000 altogether. Now, then, there re-
mains, as the project stands, about $53,000, and I am asking $40,000
for it now, and I expect to ask next year for between $13,000 and
$14,000, and that will finish it at a cost of something like $75,000 less
than the original estimate submitted to you.
The CHAIRMAN. What will that be for Ž
Gen. CROZIER. For some electrical cranes and the crane runway
for a forging press and for one or two local cranes and some wir-
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ing. The principal item, $8,000, will be for an electric traveling
CI’2,Il62.
TESTING MACHINES.
The CHAIRMAN. Testing machines, $15,000. This is your usual
estimate? ;
Gen. CROZIER. That is the usual estimate.
WATERVLIET ARSENAL, N. Y., POWER PLANTS.
The CHAIRMAN. “Watervliet Arsenal, West Troy, N. Y.: For in-
creasing capacity of power plants, $7,000.” I thought we fixed that
up last year. -
Gen. CROZIER. No ; we did not do that last year.
The CHAIRMAN. We put in those pumps for you, did we not ?
Gen. CROZIER. No ; I asked you for that, but you did not give it
to me. I did not get anything last year and I did not get anything
the year before. f g
The CHAIRMAN. What is this $7,000 for?
Gen. CROZIER. This is for the purpose of putting in a new electric
generator or converter. You know we run the arsenal by electric
power purchased from a neighboring power company, and we use
at the arsenal itself what we call rotary converters; that is to say,
a combination of motor and dynamo. We use the current to run a
motor, and then with a dynamo convert that current into one of a
voltage suitable for use in our machinery, which the current as it
comes to us is not suitable for. The ones we have there now are
very considerably overloaded. They are used all the time and used
hard, and used very considerably beyond their rated capacity.
The CHAIRMAN. You are only running about one-third or one-half
time there, are you not? -
Gen. CROZIER. No ; we are running two shifts a good part of the
time.
The CHAIRMAN. At full capacity?
Gen. CROZIER. For some part of the work we are running more
than the one-shift capacity of the establishment. Altogether we
are not getting the full output of the establishment, but we have
certain choke points where we are running two shifts. We have
increased up there very considerably in the last year, owing to the
fact that we have got increased appropriations for field artillery,
all of which we are directed to spend in our own establishments if
We Call.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this an important item? -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes, sir; this is an important item. They are run-
ning up there at 60 per cent overload for two or three hours at a
time often, and, of course, that ought not to be done. In the last
two years we have added motors in that shop to the extent of about
140 horsepower, without any increase of the generating capacity.
LIGEITS IN GUIN SEIOP.
The CHAIRMAN. “For lights in large gun shop, $3,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. That is almost too large an item for me to carry out
of my general fund. I think it is appropriate to say right here,
Mr. Chairman, that within the last two or three years a good many
of these establishments have had their plants increased, notably
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Frankford Arsenal and Rock Island Arsenal, and of course the gen-
eral upkeep expenses have been increased also. But my general
fund which is known as the fund for repairs and improvements of
arsenals has not been increased. I am very much inclined to think
it ought to be increased, and if there were a little better prospect
of getting it I think I would ask for an increase of that general fund
now. I am inclined to think that such items as this ought to come
out of the general fund; that I ought not to come down here and
make special estimates for them.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for lights in the gun shops?
Gen. CROZIER. We have a certain amount of night work which is
necessary there. For instance, I have been ordered to speed up the
work on the Panama Canal armament as fast as I can, and that
means night work. If we were allowed to take our time at it we
would not have any night work. Moreover, it is pretty far north
up there, and in the short days of the year along about the present
time it gets dark and we have to have light for a considerable por-
tion of the time before closing down. The closing hour is gen-
erally 5 o'clock. -
The CHAIRMAN. You must have some lights up there now.
Gen. CROZIER. Yes; but they are not good, and it is not economical
not to havé good lights.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these to be large arc lights?
Gen. CROZIER. No ; we have something better than the arc light.
It is a light that gives very good illumination on the incandescent
principle. I do not know whether they use the tungsten burner or
aot. They will do that if the tungsten is considered able to stand
the vibration of the machinery. You know it is rather delicate in
that way.
FIRE PROTECTION.
The CHAIRMAN. “For increasing facilities for fire protection, in-
cluding one motor-driven pump and house to contain same, $16,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. That is the item I spoke of last year which I did
not get.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this the same item'
Gen. CROZIER. Yes: except I have cut it down a little from last
year. I estimated for $20,000, but I cut out $1,500 altogether and
allotted $2,600 out of my general appropriation, and those two items
bring the total now wanted down to $16,200.
BORING AND TURNING LATEIE.
The CHAIRMAN. “For one 100-inch boring and turning lathe,
$95,000.” g -
Gen. CROZIER. There are two reasons for that. One is that in the
heavy-gun work which we do up there now the machines which we
are using are all old. Some of them have been pieced out by parts
of other machines, so as to enable us to take a longer gun, and they
are not as economical in their operation as more modern machines.
Another thing is that our maximum capacity at the Watervliet Ar-
senal now is a 12-inch 40-caliber gun. * -
The CHAIRMAN. How many feet is a 40-caliber gun?
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Gen. CROZIER. In a 12-inch gun it would be 40 feet. The caliber is
the bore of the gun. -
The CHAIRMAN. It is the diameter times the length, so that a 40-
caliber 8-inch gun would be 40 times 8 inches?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes; or two-thirds of 40 feet. I ought to explain to
you that that does not measure the over-all length of the gun. It is
the length of the bore of the gun from the muzzle back to the bottom
of the bore.
The CHAIRMAN. It does not include the breech mechanism at all?
Gen. CROZIER. No; just the length of the bore. I made a mistake in
telling you our capacity was a 12-inch 40-caliber gun. By taking
a couple of other lathes and breaking them up and using the parts of
the two lathes we have extended one of the lathes so that we can go
to a 12-inch 45-caliber gun.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want a 100-inch boring and turning
lathe for 7 º
Gen. CROZIER. We are called on now to manufacture larger guns
than we can build up there for the Navy, using our plant for the pur-
pose, and we will be called on, if you meet the War Department's
projects for defense, to manufacture 16-inch guns of 45 calibers length.
Now, that would be beyond our capacity, and we would have to have
a machine of this kind to do it, and will have to make some other
changes also. -
The CHAIRMAN. You did manufacture a 16-inch gun there?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes; but it was not 45 calibers long. It was only 34
calibers long.
The CHAIRMAN. The new gun will be much longer?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes. -
The CHAIRMAN. And you must have this machine in order to build
that gun? -
Gen. CROZIER. Yes. We can not build it with anything we have
there now. While I do not imagine there will be any call for a very
large number of them right away, yet there will be a call for larger
guns than any we can build up there now; and, in addition to that,
this machine will be a good investment because of its economy of
operation as compared with the older machines which we use now.
REPAIRs, IMPROVEMENTS, AND MACHINERY AT ARSENALS.
The CHAIRMAN. “For repairs and improvements at arsenals, 'in-
cluding $125,000 for necessary machinery for manufacturing pur-
poses, $290,000.”
Gen. CROZIER. As I said a moment ago, I think that the portion of
that appropriation which is not applicable to machinery is very
scanty, but I have not prepared myself to ask for any more money
now. I could use more very advantageously, and I wish it were
larger. The part you give me for general purposes of machinery is
sufficient. I do not need any more for that, because when I have
any special project like this lathe I have just been speaking to you
about, I come before you with a special estimate. It is not intended
to cover such very considerable and important additions to the
plant as that lathe would constitute. So that the $125,000 for
machinery is sufficient, but the other part is scarcely sufficient. Let
me tell you a little of what I have to contend with on account
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of the scantiness of that appropriation and of similar general appro-
priations. You know in every manufacturing establishment there
are certain general expenses which can not be charged to any par-
ticular manufacturing order, as, for instance, the power, whatever
that may be, and the oil and the Waste and a good many of the
helpers and most of the superintendents and foremen and people of
that class come from a general fund. My method of recruiting that
general fund is to charge a certain percentage on direct labor and
a certain amount for the classes of machines employed in each par-
ticular manufacturing order, and that gives a certain rake-off from
the allotment into this general fund.
Now, I have endeavored to define as carefully as I can what class
of expenditure that general fund may be used for. But there is a
continual tendency to encroach upon it and to charge anything and
everything that they have not a special appropriation for to this
general fund, because the people have necessities pressing on them,
and they want to do this and that and the other thing. For instance,
this matter of the lights, for which I have estimated $3,000. There
will be a pressure from the commanding officer to use this shop-
expense fund obtained by taking percentages of the allotments for
the manufacturing orders for such things as that. I am continually
having from the Frankford Arsenal requests from the commanding
officer to utilize the shop expense fund for tunneling for steam
piping and tunneling for gas mains or tunneling for electric wires,
and it is rather difficult to draw the line between the class of ex-
penditures which should be met from that shop fund, which is really
a part of the manufacturing appropriation and this general mainte-
nance fund which you give me. If you did not give me this gen-
eral maintenance fund, in some respects I would be better off, because
I would then just take off from the manufacturing appropriation
whatever was necessary to keep up the general manufacturing ap-
pliances of the shops and keep the buildings in order, and then,
of course, I would be all right until the manufacturing appropria-
tions fell off to pretty nearly nothing and I had the arsenal to main-
tain and no money from which I could deduct percentages for that
particular purpose. Of course this has not any particular relation
to this estimate now, because I have not asked you to increase the
general fund, but I say this for the purpose of convincing you, I
hope, that it certainly ought not to be decreased. I would be very
glad if you would increase it by $20,000 or $10,000. It would help
out a good deal.
Mr. SHERLEY. In pleading certain matters are sometimes alleged in
the nature of inducement. It is not a necessary averment and has
nothing to do with the particular issue to be tried, but is in the nature
of inducement, and this is for next year, I presume.
Gen. CROZIER. You know, Mr. Sherley, how great the tendency is
for the man on the spot who feels the necessity of the situation to
treat a fund like that shop fund, which is a rake-off from manufac-
turing appropriations, like a kind of slush fund, and I have been
fighting against it all the time, and one of the things that increases
the difficulty of that battle with my efficient and enthusiastic subordi-
nates is the scantiness of this general maintenance appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for Some legislation. I think we
understand that.
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WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
STATEMENT OF BRIG. GEN. WILLIAM CR0ZIER, CHIEF OF
ORDNANCE.
ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL, ILL.
[See p. 356.]
STOREIGIOUSE.
The CHAIRMAN. General, we have before us H. R. 7763, to appro-
priate $200,000 for additional storehouse at Rock Island Arsenal, to
be used as an adjunct to the proposed plant for the manufacture of
field artillery gun carriages and vehicles of the field artillery. Are
you asking for such a building?
Gen. CROZIER. No.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any necessity for such a building?
Gen. CROZIER. There is no immediate necessity. Such a building
would be ultimately useful, however.
The CHAIRMAN. The situation at present does not require it? .
Gen. CROZIER. It does not; no.
Mr. MoRDELL. And will not within the next fiscal year?
Gen. CROZIER. No ; I think not.
SEIOP FI.
[See p. 359.]
The CHAIRMAN. There is also a bill here to appropriate $65,000 for
repairing shop II at Rock Island Arsenal.
Gen. CROZIER. That appropriation has already been made and is
now in course of expenditure.
IFIELD ARTILLERY MIATERIAL.
The CHAIRMAN. Also a bill to appropriate $250,000 for increasing
the capacity for field artillery material. We have appropriated that,
have we not?
Gen. CROZIER. I think that bill is intended to call for an addi-
tional $250,000.
The CHAIRMAN. No ; this bill was introduced August 26, 1913,
and our bill was passed since then.
FIELD ARTILLERY AM M UNITION PLANT.
[See p. 374.]
There is also a bill for $200,000 for a field artillery ammunition
plant at Rock Island Arsenal.
Gen. CROZIER. I think that bill contemplates the use of the re-
pair shop H, which the $65,000 relates to, for the installation of
a field artillery ammunition plant. If this were done the appro-
priation for a storehouse which you just spoke of would be neces-
Sary, because we would have to have some place in which to put
the things now in shop H. In addition to that there would have
to be an appropriation for machinery.
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The CHAIRMAN, Where do you manufacture this field-artillery
ammunition :
Gen. CROZIER. At the Frankford Arsenal, and also the manufac-
ture is assisted by using portions of the plant at the Watertown
Arsenal, at the Watervliet Arsenal, and the Springfield Armory in
manufacturing components of the ammunition.
The CHAIRMAN. You have never done any of this work at Rock
Island 3 t -
Gen. CROZIER. We never have; no sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you purchase any of this artillery ammuni-
tion?
Gen. CROZIER. No; we manufacture practically all of it.
The CHAIRMAN. You now manufacture all of it?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes. You understand, of course, that we purchase
Some of the components as material.
The CHAIRMAN. But you manufacture the ammunition itself?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Am I correct in my recollection that we figured
out that at the end of four or five years we would practically have
all of that reserve ammunition at the rate we are now going?
Gen. CROZIER. At the rate we are now going; yes.
SMALL-ARMS CARTRIDGE PLANT.
The CHAIRMAN. There is a bill, No. 7767, to appropriate $300,000
for a Small-arms cartridge plant at Rock Island Arsenal. Do you
manufacture any small-arms cartridges?
Gen. CROZIER. We manufacture them all at the Frankford Arsenal.
The CHAIRMAN. Are the facilities ample there?
Gen. CROZIER. The facilities are not now used up to anything like
their capacity.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you purchase any of them?
Gen. CROZIER. We do not now. We have in the past purchased it,
and there are four private plants at least, and probably a fifth plant,
which can make this kind of ammunition, and we have purchased
Some ammunition from them in the past, but we are not purchasing
any now. *
The CHAIRMAN. So that you have the facilities to do all the work
contemplated in the present building?
Gen. CROZIER. Yes; to meet the appropriations that are made.
FIELD ARTILLERY AM MTUN ITION.
| See p. 373.]
I think I ought to add, however, that as far as the manufacture of
artillery ammunition is concerned, we are obliged to operate the
plant at Frankfort Arsenal with more than one shift of workmen.
A good part of it is operated in two shifts, and for Some purposes,
which we call choke points, we operate it with three shifts. Now, I
do not think the operation of three shifts is either advantageous or
economical, because the superintendence is so poor, and I think the
operation of more than one shift takes away from the expandibility
our own establishment, in times of emergency, undesirably. So my
own opinion is we should be permitted to patronize private manufac-
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turers in getting part of our field artillery ammunition or else that
the Government facilities should be increased.
The CHAIRMAN. If you are going to increase the facilities at the
Government plants, would you provide the additional facilities at
the place you are now manufacturing or some other point?
Gen. CROZIER. My first effort would be to see whether we could
not utilize a greater proportion of the plants we have at some of the
arsenals where the work is slacking away on account of the accumu-
lation of a good Supply of what those arsenals have been making.
The most striking instance is the Springfield Armory, where we have
à large capacity for manufacturing rifles, which plant we are not
using fully now because of the accumulation of a supply of rifles.
Now, I would see to what extent I could utilize the plant up there by
modifying part of it, possibly, or making additions to it; and the
Same statement would apply, to a certain extent, to the plant at the
Watertown Arsenal. I would see the extent to which I could make
lise of those plants which are to a certain degree falling into less use,
and, of course, I would examine into the question with reference to
the desirability of establishing an entirely new plant for this pur-
pose at the Rock Island Arsenal. The Rock Island Arsenal is very
well situated as far as defense is concerned and as far as central loca-
tion of the country is concerned, and it has certain other advantages.
There is plenty of space there and we have a water power there.
However, that remark needs some explanation, because, although we
have plenty of water there, the plant is becoming old-fashioned, and
J am not certain that without overhauling we could develop any more
power than we now require. . .
Mr. MoRDELL. General, how near are you to the accumulation of
the desired reserve in field artillery ammunition?
Gen. CROZIER. We have at the present time about 38 per cent of the
amount which is necessary for the artillery which is either on hand or
under manufacture. We have about 31 per cent of the artillery
which we think we ought to have, which constitutes our ultimate
3roject. We are estimating this year for sums of money which will
|. the percentage of ammunition for the artillery which is
already on hand or under manufacture from 38 per cent to about 60
per cent, and that would bring the percentage for the total project
in artillery up to about 56 per cent. I mean by the total project that
which we think we ought to have either on hand or under manu-
facture.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is, your ammunition at the end of the fiscal
year under the appropriations you ask will be what per cent of your
estimated reserve for the guns now on hand or under manufacture'
Gen. CROZIER. Sixty per cent. -
Mr. MoRDELL. But your reserve of guns is only what per cent of
the desired reserve? *
Gen. CroziER. We have on hand or under manufacture about 86ſ
guns out of about 1,292 which are called for in our project.
Mr. MoRDELL. I misunderstood you, then, because I understood
you to say that your reserve of guns was only 30 per cent of the de-
sired reserve.
Gen. CroziER. No; I said the reserve of ammunition for the guns
on hand or under manufacture is 38 per cent of what it ought to be,
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and the reserve of ammunition for the total number of guns in the
project—that is 1,292—is 31 per cent.
Mr. MoRDELL. Now, I understand you. At the present rate of
progress how soon will you have accumulated your reserve of am-
munition? f . . "
Gen. CROZIER. In about four years. The progress has been consid-
ably accelerated, you understand, quite recently. -
Mr. GILLETT. How recently was it that you adopted the new pro-
portion of Artillery to Infantry?
Gen. CROZIER. My recollection of it is that it was about three
years ago. However, I have been coming to you for 10 years with a
proportion of two guns per 1,000 men of the total size of the Army,
and that is not very different from the proportion which we are now
using of 3.16 guns per 1,000 of the strength of the Army in Infantry
and Cavalry alone. Now, under the old proportion the total number
we would work out for the project would be 1,200, and under the
present proportion the total number is 2,192, so that as far as the
total number is concerned it has not changed very much in the last
10 years. -
Mr. GILLETT. You certainly came before us three or four years
ago and said there had been a change in your views as to the proper
proportion, and as I recollect it was to be very much larger than it
had formerly been. -
Gen. CROZIER. I think that is a mistake. That has been under dis-
cussion before as to whether that is a mistake or not, and I have
always maintained that the proportion is not very different.
The CHAIRMAN. Where the shift was made was in the base of your
calculation; that is, as to the number of men for whom you should
provide guns. We have been going on the theory that 350,000 men
were sufficient, and then somebody raised the number, first, to 600,000
and, then, back to 500,000. -
Gen. CROZIER. There may have been something like that.
The CHAIRMAN. And, of course, that changed the percentages
very radically.
Gen. CROZIER. For a number of years before the other committee
I was advocating fighting material for an Army of a different
strength, depending upon the kind of material I was talking about.
For instance, if it was a kind of material that took a long time to
get, I thought we ought to have a supply for a larger Army. If we
could get it in a shorter time I was willing to recommend a supply
for a smaller force. -
The CHAIRMAN. That does not alter the radical jump in the num-
ber of men that somebody decided on quite suddenly.
Gen. CROZIER. I think for 10 years at least I have been asking
the other committee for small-arms ammunition, amounting to 300
rounds per man for an army of 600,000 men.
The CHAIRMAN. That change was made inside of 10 years, because
I have only been on this committee 10 years.
Mr. MoRDELL. Has the experience of the contending forces in
the European War modified your view and opinion with regard to
field artillery as to the quantity necessary for a given number of
troops or as to the character of the guns? w
Gen. CROZIER. Mr. Mondell, I do not like to form any opinion on
the very meager information which is reliable that we have thus
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far been able to get. I have heard rumors which would indicate
that the amount of artillery, and particularly the amount of field
artillery, of rather large caliber, ought to be increased, but I do
not think those rumors are sufficiently authentic to base a judgment
upon. There is one thing we do know—there is enough evidence now
So that We can be satisfied about it, and that is that in the siege
Operations against certain classes of forts, particularly along the
Belgian frontier, by means of the use of very large howitzers they
have been able to reduce those forts in much less time than had been
considered possible. I think the demonstration is complete that
for that kind of Work that kind of gun is desirable, although even
for that class of work I do not think that it is necessary to use the
largest gun that they claim to have had in the German service. I
do not think that the evidence is complete that that largest gun—I
am referring now to the 42-centimeter howitzer, a caliber of about
16 inches—I do not think the evidence is complete that those guns
were used at all in the reduction of those forts, and my own opinion
is that all that has been accomplished in the reduction of those forts,
which has been shown in various photographs which have come over
to this country, could have been accomplished with a smaller piece
than that 16-inch howitzer.
Mr. MONDELL. We have not anything to correspond with the heavi-
est guns that have been used by the Germans for the battering of
land defenses.
Gen. CROZIER. We have not, because we have not before us any such
object to be attained. We are not prepared to reduce such forts. I
do not know where there are any that we are at all likely to assail.
The Germans had them right before them; had that definite problem
directly before them and they prepared for it.
Mr. MoRDELL. In other words, we have no conceivable use for that
particular kind of gun, assuming that it is a good gun for the pur-
poses for which it was intended?
Gen. CROZIER. I can not see any such use.
Mr. MoRDELL. And you have not had sufficient accurate informa-
tion in regard to the use of ordinary field artillery to form an opinion
as to the necessity or wisdom of modifying your view as to the
character or quantity that might be needed?
Gen. CROZIER. Of course, Mr. Mondell, you know that we are not
preparing for any such force as has been engaged on One side or the
other over in the European war. We are not thinking of any such
force at all. -
Mr. MoRDELL. I was speaking of the quantity per unit of force
engaged.
Gen. CROZIER. I do not see anything that would call for a change
in that; anything, at least, which I consider reliable evidence. Now,
a question might come up as to the proportion of light fieldpieces
and heavy fieldpieces which we have in our project. We have both
light fieldpieces and heavy fieldpieces, the heaviest which we have
now under construction being a 6-inch howitzer. There have been
statements to the effect that there have been situations in which the
greater range of these heavier pieces has been useful, and I have no
doubt in some situations they are; but whether that increased utility
is so marked as to call for a larger proportion of those heavier pieces
I do not know. I have also heard it very definitely stated as coming
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from officers of French artillery in interviews with officers of our
own Artillery service, that the gun upon which the French have
placed the greatest value and which they consider has done the best
work in this war is their 75-millimeter field gun, which is of the same
caliber as our principal field gun.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is that caliber reduced to inches?
Gen. CROZIER. Two and ninety-five one-hundredths inches.
Mr. MoRDELL. And how rapidly does that gun fire?
Gen. CROZIER. That gun can fire 15 aimed rounds a minute, which
is what our gun can do.
Mr. MoRDELL. And what is its effective range?
Gen. CROZIER. About 8,500 yards at the maximum elevation which
the carriage permits. I will say that in this kind of gun, the prin-
cipal field artillery gun, which for us is the 3-inch gun and for the
French the 2.95-inch gun, practically the same caliber, all the civi-
lized nations of the world have copied the French, ourselves included.
The main difference between our gun and the French gun is that they
use to return the gun to battery after the long recoil which their
gun carriage permits and which is the salient feature of the modern
gun a pneumatic spring, whereas we use a metallic spring.
MoRDAY, JANUARY 4, 1914.
MILITARY POSTS.
STATEMENT OF MAJ. GEN. JAMES B. ALESHIRE, QUARTER.
MASTER GENERAL UNITED STATES ARMY.
CONSTRUCTION AND ENLARGEMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. The first item is “Military posts: For construc-
tion and enlargement at military posts of such buildings as in the
judgment of the Secretary of War may be necessary, including the
installation therein of plumbing and heating and lighting appa-
ratus; but no part of this sum shall be used for the purchase of land,
for construction of buildings at Coast Artillery posts, nor for the
establishment of any disciplinary barracks, $541,000.” &
Gen. ALESHIRE. The amount we estimate, $541,000, is made up of
$205,000 for Fort Shafter.
The CHAIRMAN. Fort Shafter is in Hawaii?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; $163,000 for Schofield Barracks; $28,000
for Plattsburg Barracks, N. Y.; $35,000 for Fort Shafter. For Fort
San Houston, Tex., $40,000; for Foit Douglas, Utah, $30,000; and
here is an item of $40,000 for Washington Barracks, D. C., but the
Chief of Engineers has included that item in the estimate that he is
submitting. I called the attention of the Secretary of War to that
fact and he authorized me to withdraw it from our estimates.
FORT SHAFTER, HAWAII, BATTALION BARRACl&S AND OFFICERS’ QUARTERS.
Now, going back, the items that make up that $205,000 for Fort
Shafter are as follows: Two battalion barracks at $96,000 each, mak-
ing a total of $192,000; two officers' quarters at $5,000 each, making
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 379
$10,000; and one noncommissioned officers’ quarters, $3,000. There
are at present at Fort Shafter one regiment of Infantry, one com-
pany of Engineers, and a company of Signal Corps.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you refer to troops or buildings?
Gen. ALESHIRE. To troops. The proposed ultimate garrison of
this post consists of four regiments of Infantry and one battalion of
three companies of Engineers. That is the garrison that they are to
have. Permanent accommodations have been provided for four com-
panies of Infantry, frame buildings—that is, in permanent frame
buildings, the remainder of the garrison, eight companies of Infantry
and one company of Engineers, being quartered in temporary build-
IngS.
The CHAIRMAN. How many companies have you in temporary
buildings?
Gen. ALESHIRE. There are eight companies of Infantry and one
company of Engineers in temporary buildings and four companies
of Infantry in permanent buildings. There are eight companies of
Infantry in temporary buildings. With this amount we have esti-
mated it is proposed to complete the permanent barrack accommo-
dations for one regiment of Infantry and build two line officers’
quarters and one noncommissioned officers’ quarters. As I stated
before, one battalion of Infantry, or four companies, are now in
permanent barracks, and with the money we have here estimated
the idea of the Secretary of War is to complete the permanent accom-
modations at Fort Shafter for the two remaining battalions of In-
fantry, thus providing permanent accommodations for One regiment
that is to be stationed there permanently.
The CHAIRMAN. What else have you there—an administration
building?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; there is an administration building there
for one battalion that will answer the purpose.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you spent there for permanent
buildings?
Gen. ALESHIRE. We have spent $544,889.47
The CHAIRMAN. How much additional will be required, according
to the plans?
Gen. ALESHIRE. For three more regiments of Infantry
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). That is, exclusive of this $205,000,
Gen. ALESHIRE. One hundred and ninety-two thousand dollars of .
this $205,000 will build barracks for two more battalions. Then
the $10,000 and $3,000 that are included in that $205,000 will build
two sets of officers’ quarters and one set of noncommissioned officers’
quarters. After we expend the $205,000 as estimated, there will be
required $194,500 more to build officers’ quarters, stables, wagon
sheds, for enlarging the water supply, and building roads and Walks
for one regiment of Infantry. That amount is not included in the
estimate this year.
. The CHAIRMAN. That is for one regiment?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Will it cost eight times as much to take care of
the other three?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; I have forgotten the exact amount in the
estimates. The total amount to be appropriated, according to the
Document No. 276, House of Representatives, Sixty-third Congress,
380 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
first session, Mr. Chairman, to complete the post for four regiments
of Infantry and one battalion of Engineers at Fort Shafter is
$2,841,331.96. We are now, asking for $205,000, and it would be
that amount less $205,000 *
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). No, sir; you have already expend-
ed—how much?
Gen. ALESHIRE. We have expended $544,000 for buildings of per-
manent construction. This shows the amount we had expended at
the time this report was made. -
The CHAIRMAN. That is $772,934.82.
h: ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; that takes in the water supply and every-
thing. * -
The CHAIRMAN. You have not had any money since then?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir. Here is the total to be appropriated to
carry out this scheme for four regiments of infantry and one bat-
talion of engineers. That shows the total amount to be appropri-
ated, and this estimate would be this amount less that amount
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Where did you get this money for
Fort Shafter Ž
Gen. ALESHIRE. Formerly?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Gen. ALESHIRE. I can not tell you exactly, Mr. Chairman, but I
can look that up and find out. -
The CHAIRMAN. You did not get it in this bill?
Gen. ALESHIRE, No, sir. I think it was in the appropriation for
barracks and quarters some time ago.
The CHAIRMAN. In the Army appropriation bill?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I think so. It was built long before I came to
Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. This note says, “Appropriated by Army acts,
fiscal years 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1912, 1913, and 1914. That is
one reason why the committee refused to appropriate for it, because
you had been getting this money out of the Army bill, and we did
not want to double up on it.
Gen. ALESHIRE. No money is being asked for this purpose in the
Army bill.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not think any was asked before, but it was
.. out of some general appropriation and nobody knew anything
about it. -
Gen. ALESHIRE. With this $163,000 for Schofield Barracks
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We gave you $250,000.
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; that was to be used toward the construc-
tion of barracks for Infantry.
The CHAIRMAN. For one regiment of Infantry?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; toward the construction of barracks for
a regiment of Infantry. Two battalion barracks for Infantry have
been advertised, awards are about to be made, and the construction
commenced at Schofield Barracks. The estimated cost of the two
battalion barracks, together with the necessary sewage disposal
plants and water and sewer connections with the buildings, is $237,-
000, $192,000 for the barracks and $45,000 for the sewage disposal
plants, water and sewer connections, etc., leaving $13,000 available
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 381
toward the construction of the remaining battalion barracks to com-
plete the barrack accommodations for one regiment of Infantry that
we estimated for. Of this $163,000 for Schofield Barracks included
in this item, $83,000, with the $13,000 left over, making $96,000, is
for the construction of the one remaining battalion barracks, and
$80,000 is for the construction of a building for administration pur-
poses, post exchange, guardhouse barracks, mess for band, machine-
gun platoon, etc., making a total of $163,000.
PLATTSBURG BARRACKS, N. Y.
The CHAIRMAN. For Plattsburg Barracks, N. Y., you ask $28,000?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The $28,000 at Plattsburg Barracks is for the con-
struction of barracks for a Quartermaster Corps detachment and
machine-gun platoon. The Quartermaster Corps detachment is now
quartered in an old building which was condemned in 1907. It has
been maintained by using pieces of lumber on hand at the post. No
further expenditures are being made upon it. It is contemplated to
construct a building in which to quarter this Quartermaster Corps
detachment and machine-gun platoon, the latter organization being
quartered in a stone building occupied also by noncommissioned
officers. A.
The CHAIRMAN. The statement appeared in the press the other day
that the garrisons of a number of military posts have been completely
depleted. - * -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Troops have been withdrawn from some.
The CHAIRMAN. It is not necessary to build any more accommo-
dations at such posts?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The troops have been withdrawn from posts to go
down on the Mexican border and to Galveston with the second di-
vision, but if they are ever withdrawn from those field duties they
will have to go back to their garrisons.
The CHAIRMAN. There does not seem to be any prospect of their
immediate withdrawal, does there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Not so far as we know. I would like to mention
in connection with the Plattsburg Barracks estimate that that is one
of the posts included in the list in Document No. 490 of the Sixty-
second Congress, second session, in which a number of posts were
listed for ultimate abandonment.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it listed to be abandoned?
Gen. ALESHIRE. It was listed to be abandoned. It was in the list
of posts that were to be abandoned some time in the future, but not
immediately. However, I have always understood that the attention
of the committee should be called to that fact whenever we make
an estimate for any buildings at such posts.
The CHAIRMAN. Outside of the fact the climate is rather salubri-
Ous, is there any military advantage in having a post at Plattsburg!
Gen. ALESHIRE. I suppose not, Mr. Chairman. The interest that
the Quartermaster Corps would have in Plattsburg is that it is there
with buildings in which to quarter troops, and my judgment is that
We ought to keep them. * -
The CHAIRMAN. How far is this from the border?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I think it is pretty close to it.
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FORT SHAFTER, HAWAII, STOREHOUSEs.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you are asking the further sum of $35,000
for Fort Shafter. .
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is for the construction of five storehouses.
The general plan contemplates the construction of 20 storehouses,
the estimated cost being $7,000 each, and this estimate includes
$140,000 for that purpose. g .
The CHAIRMAN. Has anything ever been done toward considering
the advisability of having one great depot for supplies for both
services there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. You will remember that that matter was
brought up about a year ago or more, in connection with the hos-
pital for one thing, and for coordination in other ways. We took
these matters up through the Secretary of War with the Secretary
of the Navy. The Secretary of the Navy, in connection with the
hospital, reported to the Secretary of War that their construction
had gone so far that they did not think well of terminating the con-
struction, and therefore the Secretary of War authorized our going
on with the hospital at Fort Shafter. However, we succeeded in
agreeing upon a plan as to light and water supply. We are getting
light, or are going to get light, at Fort Kamehameha, for example,
and Fort Shafter, and eventually at Schofield Barracks, from the
Navy plant. We are also going to furnish the Navy some water from
our wells at Fort Shafter. That is about the extent of it. 4
The CHAIRMAN. The Navy hospital being erected at Pearl Harbor
is much smaller than was originally planned, is it not?
Gen. ALESHIRE. It may be. I do not know about that.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any of these storehouses?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; we have not. These storehouses are to
hold the reserve stores it is proposed to send over there. According
to the plans there will be a six months’ supply of rations and cloth-
ing for the command, together with a surplus supply of flour, bacon,
coffee, lard, etc., to be available for the sustenance of the inhabitants
of Honolulu in case of necessity. Those are to be stored there, and
also ordnance stores, ammunition, and material to be used in the
construction of an intrenched line. We have some supplies there
designated as reserve supplies. Some of them are in storehouses
belonging to the Navy, and they have served notice on us that they
will have to have that space. We also rented a storehouse for some
of them. The entire quantity of stores is not at Honolulu.
FORT SAM HOUSTON, TEX., BARRACKS.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking $40,000 for Fort Sam Houston?
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is to build a brick barracks, including mess
accommodations, lavatories, etc., for approximately 160 enlisted men
of the Quartermaster Corps. The building is to be 42 feet by 192
feet, and is to have two stories. It is to contain a kitchen, mess
room, storerooms, lavatories, etc., on the first floor and on the second
ſloor the dormitory. This organization is now quartered in vacant
Infantry barracks of the post, and the building will be required for
the Cavalry upon their return to their station at the post. . There is
no other building or buildings at this post that can be used as quar-
ters for the Quartermaster Corps detachment. §
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 383
The CHAIRMAN. There are accommodations there now for what
number of troops? i
Gen. ALESHIRE. There are accommodations for a regiment of
Field Artillery, a regiment of Cavalry, and a regiment of Infantry.
A plan of about a year ago contemplates the withdrawal of the regi-
ment of infantry from that post and sending there instead of the
Infantry a regiment of Cavalry.
The CHAIRMAN. How urgent is this building?
Gen. ALESHIRE. It is not urgent until those troops are returned to
the garrison. If those troops return to the garrison, there must be
Some place for the accommodation of this detachment. They are
now living in barracks that will have to be occupied by the perma-
nent garrison when they return.
IFORT DOUGLAS, UTAHI, BARRACKS.
The CHAIRMAN. For Fort Douglas, Utah, you are asking $30,000?
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is for accommodations for a quartermaster
Corps detachment, a machine gun platoon, and a regimental detach-
ment, totaling 97 men. The building will accommodate 100 men.
The CHAIRMAN. What number is there now Ż
Gen. ALESHIRE. One regiment of infantry.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they actually there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; they have been withdrawn.
The CHAIRMAN. How many men at the post?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Not many; I should think 25 men; just enough
caretakers, some quartermaster Sergeants, and the corps men.
The CHAIRMAN. This is for quartermaster outfits? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. For the Quartermaster Corps, machine-gun
platoon and headquarters detachment.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are those troops now for which you want
this money, how are they housed?
Gen. ALESHIRE. They are now in a building that is available, a
barracks, by reason of the troops having been withdrawn. As stated
before, this building at Douglas is to quarter the enlisted men of
the Quartermaster Corps, 38; the machine-gun platoon, 29 men;
and the regimental detachment of approximately 32 men; making
99 men. When the troops are in the garrison these men have been
distributed around among the barracks of the different organiza-
tions. Just at this moment they are in a vacant barracks.
The CHAIRMAN. Where were they before?
Gen. ALESHIRE. They were scattered in the barracks assigned to the
different organizations.
AIR ANDONMENT OF CERTAIN POSTS-POINTS OF ENLISTMENT—PURCHASE OF SUPPLIES.
Mr. SHERLEY. We hear constant talk about the failure of Congress
to abolish military posts and the economy which would be effected
by a cºnsolidation of the posts, and We are then met with a con-
stant request for additions to posts that are in existence. You have
here Shafter, which is in the Hawaiian Islands, and Schofield, and
then you have Plattsburg, N. Y. We will take that up as the first
one. Is that a post which you expect to maintain permanently?
384 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Gen. ALESHIRE. I told the chairman while you were out of the
room that that post was listed in Document No. 490 for abandonment
at some future time. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Then why do you want to spend $28,000?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Because that post is garrisoned and probably will
continue to be garrisoned for some time and there are no quarters
for these men. -
Mr. SHERLEy. Do you ever expect to get rid of a post by increas-
ing its size and importance? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; but I think it is my duty when we are
short a building to quarter the enlisted men and there is nothing done
apparently toward the abandonment of the post to tell you and let
it be known that the building is required. As I said, I know that
that post is on the list.
Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, my interrogatory is not meant in any
personal Sense, but I am trying to bring down the responsibility.
We are constantly being told, particularly in the public prints,
by gentlemen in and out of the service who seek to talk about condi-
tions, that Congress will not do Sundry very wise things and, in
consequence, the poor Army is forced to spend a great deal of money.
One of the chief complaints is about the maintenance of so many
Army posts. Why is it that men are stationed at Plattsburg or are
going to be stationed there if it is a post which Army officials think
is going to be abolished? -
... Gen. ALESTITRE. Because there is not any other place to put them.
Mr. SHEELEY. Do you not think it would be better to take the
$28,000 and some of the other sums for the permanent place you
expect them to be instead of increasing the importance of a post
which is to be abolished 3
Gen. ALESIIIRE. I do not know where that place is. Nobody has
ever told me where they are going to build a post.
Mr. SHERLEY. Then the present situation is one where they crit-
icize without being in a position to offer a plan for a substitute?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know what the War Department has
planned for, but the Quartermaster General’s Office has never been
told where this post which is to take the place of Plattsburg is to be.
Mr. SHERLEY. You know that there has been no provision made
for a place in lieu of Plattsburg?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know beyond a plan of three or four
years ago, where they considered the grouping of all the posts of
the United States in eight groups. I do not know whether you re-
member that or not, Mr. Sherley.
Mr. SHERI.E.Y. I do not know that I remember the concrete plan.
Gen. ALESHIRE. There was such a plan. I do not know what has
become of it. w -
Mr. SHERLEY. Here is Fort Houston, and you are asking for
$40,000. What is to be the future of Fort Houston'
Gen. A 1,ESHIRE. That is one of the permanent posts as contem-
plated by the plan to which I referred, and is so reported in Con-
gressional Document No. 490, Sixty-second Congress, second Session.
Mr. SHERLEY. Douglas, Utah, is that to be retained?
Gen. ALESH 1 RE. I do not remember, Mr. Sherley, but I think It is.
I have no note here that it is not to be.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 385
Mr. SHERLEY. Upon what theory is a post in Utah to be retained?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know, sir. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Certainly it is not situated for railroad communica-
tion or anything else than a certain proximity to Mexico that would
make it a valuable post. * ,
Gen. ALESHIRE. In my opinion, that location is one of the very best
we have out in the Western country. . .
Mr. SHERLEY. Less bad than the others?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir. If we were to assemble a great depot of
supplies and have it absolutely safe from attack from the Pacific, I
would rather have it there than in San Francisco. You have rail-
roads to the northwest, to the West, to the east, in every direction.
Mr. SHERLEY. You are not figuring on these interior posts on the
theory of their safety from attack?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; I am talking about a distributing point.
That is a magnificent distributing point. I am not saying anything
in the interest of a military post, only calling attention to that as a
good point from which to distribute supplies.
Mr. SHERLEY. I have heard it stated, and I should like to know
how true it is, that under our present arrangement, with posts over
the country, we enlist a very large percentage of all of our soldiers
east, along the Atlantic coast and a little bit interior, and that we
either manufacture or buy nearly all of our supplies east, certainly
east of the Mississippi, and yet we ship both soldiers and supplies
across the continent, and then after the Soldier's term of enlistment is
out we transport him back again to his home east. How far is that
true?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The principal recruiting depots are at Davis
Island, Fort Slocum, N. Y., and Jefferson Barracks, Mo. Those are
the two principal ones. Then we have the Columbus Barracks,
Ohio, one at Fort Logan, Colo., and one at Fort McDowell on the
Pacific.
Mr. SHERLEY. Where do we get most of the soldiers, the actual
troops?
General ALESHIRE. I do not know. &
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand that the reports show a very large
percentage of them is east of the Mississippi, and a very large per-
centage of that percentage is along the Atlantic coast? •
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know anything about that. A
Mr. SHERLEY. The reason I asked you is because in dealing with
the transportation of the Army it becomes a very important factor
in the way of costs.
Gen ALESHIRE. I can tell you about the supplies. All the supplies
that we purchase are advertised for in the localities where they are
required. We also advertise generally. We make the award for
supplies where We can get them for the least money, considering
transportation. - W
Mr. SHERLEY. But the point is this, most of the supplies that you
need are not available in a great part of the country where you sta-
tion troops. The result is you are forced to buy the supplies in the
East and to pay transportation on them because of the policy which
continues to put soldiers out in the West. It is that question of ex-
pense that I am bringing to your attention, and I am bringing it to
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386 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
your attention in connectio.1 with the proposal to increase the size of
posts out in the Western country, away from the centers of population
and away from what would look like the economical places for their
being. In preparing these estimates were those things taken into
consideration? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Fort Douglas is a regimental post and the perma-
ment garrison is a regiment, and so far as I understand it is to be
maintained as a regimental post. There was no place in which these
men could be quartered except, as I say, divided up among the other
organizations. f
Mr. SHIERLEY. The Army is practically the size it has been for some
time. Certainly the Army in continental United States now is not
large, and yet you are asking for facilities for housing men. Why?
Because of the readjustment and rearrangement of the units at differ-
ent places. That being so, I inquired as to whether these factors
which go to make up the tremendous upkeep costs of the Army were
taken into consideration? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. I can not tell you whether they were taken into
consideration. When I submitted the estimate I did not consider
that, but I do know that the troops are there. rº
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you know whether the troops should be there and
kept there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I would not venture an opinion on that, because I
am not expected to. * -
Mr. SHERLEY. I am not speaking of that in any Senſse as making a
criticism of you.
Gen. ALESHIRE. I understand.
Mr. SHERLEY. But that is a question which properly ought to be
considered by this committee when it is asked to spend money at
these places.
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know the policy of the War Department,
except the reference that I made to the general Scheme of grouping
the troops.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is it practical to put into the record a statement
showing where your soldiers are recruited, the distances that they
are required to travel to their posts assigned, and also some general
figures showing the cost of purchases in different section of the coun-
try and the freight on them?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
(The statement referred to follows:)
(Memorandum for the Quartermaster General of the Army.)
The following statement shows where the enlisted men of the United States
Army were recruited by the general recruiting service during the fiscal year
ended June 30, 1914, including the locality from which they came :
Main recruiting stations contributing to the five general recruit depots listed
wºnder the depot to which they contribute, the number sent by each, during
the fiscal year specified being shown. ,
Fort Slocum, N. Y. : Port Slocum, N. Y. —Continued.
Albany, N. Y------------- 313 Portland, Me ------------ 22]
Baltimore, Md ––––––––––– 436 Providence, R. I__________ 557
Poston, Mass –––––––––––– 565 Richmond, Va.------------ 227
Harrisburg, Pa----------- 292 Savannah, Ga------------ 2S()
Newark, N. J–––––––––––– 257 Scranton, Pa------------- 320
New Haven, Conn.-------- 476 Syracuse, N. Y ---------- • 234
New York, N. Y---------- 4,448 *º-
Philadelphia, Pa. --------- 748 g 9,383
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 387
Columbus Barracks, Ohio : JefferSOIl Barracks, Mo.—Continued.
Atlanta, Ga-------------- 989 Nashville, Tenn.---------- 303
Buffalo, N. Y------------ 596 New Orleans, La-________ 336
Charlotte, N. C–––– ––––– SS4 Peoria, Ill 460
Cincinnati, Ohio ––––––––– 711 St. Louis, MO------------ 1, 209
Cleveland, Ohio –––––––––– 1,077 Terre Haute, Ind-________ 858
Columbus, Ohio ––––––––– 226 **
Detroit, Mich 1,016 10, 314
Grand Rapids, Mich ------ 174 F.
Huntington, W. Wa-______ 423 I'ort Logan, Colo. :
Indianapolis, Ind--------- 1, 251 Dallas, TeX-------------- 447
KnOXVille, Tenn.---------- 465 Denver, Colo------------- 717
Lexington, Ky----------- 437 Dl Paso, TeX------------- 150
Louisville, Ky------------ 444 Oklahoma, Okla---------- 476
Pittsburgh, Pa-__________ 560 Omaha, Nebr––––––––––––– 415
Roanoke, Va.------------- 244 Salt Lake City, Utah-____ 188
Toledo, Ohio------------- 244 Wichita, Kans--------- -* — — 203
9, 741 2, 596
Jefferson Barracks, MO. : l'ort McDowell, Cal. :
Chicago, Ill-------------- 3,935 TIOS Angeles, Cal--------- 314
Davenport, IOWa. --______ 224 Portland, Oreg----------- 403
Duluth, Minn------------ 71 San Francisco, Cal------- 2, 609
Evansville, Ind----------- 533 Seattle, Wash 298
Joplin, Mo--------------- 342 Spokane, Wash----------- 244
Kansas City, MO--------- 600 - * *-*m.
Little Rock, Ark_________ 393 3, 868
Memphis, Tenn.----------- 247 -—
Minneapolis, Minn.-------- 1, 303 Total------------------ 35, 902
It will be observed that in this statement the United States is divided into
five subdivisions to correspond with the five general recruiting depots estab-
lished by the recruiting service, and that the statement shows the localities
from which recruits were sent to each depot. . When there is a saving Of tranS-
portation recruits are sent to depot and other military posts instead of depots
for enlistment.
It will also be observed that the majority of the recruits were obtained in
the larger cities, the cities of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Minneapolis,
Indianapolis, St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, Atlanta, and Charlotte having fur-
nished over half of the entire number.
In addition to the foregoing there were enlisted at military posts, in the field,
and in the Porto Rico regiment, recruits not obtained through the general re-
cruiting service, 5,969, making the total enlistments in the Army for the fiscal
year ended June 30, 1914, 41,871.
In the cases of practically all the recruits enlisted transportation is in-
volved. The total expense for transportation of recruits for the fiscal year
ended June 30, 1914, was $688,287.45, therefore the average per capita cost for
that year was $16.44, or an average mileage per recruit (based on an estimate
cost of 24 cents per mile) of 731 miles.
It is deemed proper to remark that the cost of transportation for the fiscal
year ended June 30, 1914, was appreciably increased by the fact that it Was
necessary to transport many of the recruits to the Mexican border, to Colorado,
and to Panama, instead of assigning them to organizations Comparatively near
the recruit depots as was practicable in prior years when the Army Was Sta-
tioned at points adjacent to those depots. For example, the average per Capita
cost for transportation in the year ended June 30, 1911, was $13.10, and the
average mileage per recruit, 582 miles, the similar items for the year of 1914,
as previously stated, being $16.44 and 731 miles.
The recruit depot posts referred to are Fort Bliss, Tex.; Fort Douglas, Utah;
Fort George Wright, Wash.; Jackson Barracks, La. ; Fort Lawton, Wash. : Fort
McPherson, Ga.; Fort Oglethorpe, Ga.; Fort Sam Houston, Tex.; Fort Snel-
ling, Minn.; Vancouver Barracks, Wash. £º tº tº
The military posts other than depot posts are variously distributed through-
out the continental limits of the United States, and as previously stated when
there is a saving of transportation recruits are sent to depot and other mili-
388 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
tary posts for enlistment instead of to depots, care being exercised that the
military posts have facilities for handling such recruits as may be sent to
those postS.
H. P. McCAIN,
The Adjutant General.
JANUARY 8, 1915. - -
The practice of the Quartermaster Corps in furnishing supplies
for use of troops at the various posts is to purchase them locally
whenever the local price does not exceed the price of similar articles
at the supply depots plus the cost of transportation to the post.
This practice is followed in the purchase of all articles which are
not of a special nature, such as Wagons and Wagon parts, ranges
and range parts, clothing, tentage, harness, shoes, veterinary in-
struments and medicines, and other articles which it has been found
by experience can be procured in large lots in the markets where
made and delivered from the supply depots to the posts where re-
quired, including the cost of transportation, at considerably lower
prices than similar articles could be purchased locally.
The supply depots of the Quartermaster Corps are located at
Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Jeffersonville, Chicago, St. Louis,
Omaha, San Francisco, and Seattle. To each of these depots are
assigned certain posts for supply of such articles as can be pro-
cured by them at less cost, including transportation, than they can
be procured locally.
Forage and fuel are procured in the local markets, and contracts
provide in nearly every case for delivery at the post where required.
Shoes are procured principally at the Boston, Philadelphia, St.
Louis, Chicago, and San Francisco markets and are delivered from
the depots at these places to the posts assigned to them for supply.
Clothing, except that for troops in Alaska, is procured prin-
cipally in the Boston, New York, and Philadelphia markets and
distributed principally from the Philadelphia depot. Alaskan cloth-
ing is procured in the San Francisco and Seattle markets and
shipped from these points to posts in Alaska. A large amount of
clothing is also manufactured in the Government plants at Phila-
delphia and Jeffersonville. \
Wagons and wagon parts are procured principally from the
Jeffersonville market, most of the large Wagon factories being
Jocated in this vicinity. t •
Ranges, range parts, and harness are procured largely in the
Jeffersonville and St. Louis markets and distributed from these
points. -
Veterinary instruments and medicines are procured principally in
the New York, St. Louis, and San Francisco markets and supplied
from those points. - t;
Harness is generally procured and supplied from the Jeffersonville
market. Harness parts, such as buckles, rings, etc., are purchased
in the local markets at posts where required. 1 -
Tableware and kitchen utensils are procured in large lots in the
Philadelphia, St. Louis, and San Francisco markets and distributed
from these points. & * -
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The following are the current prices for delivery of forage at the
posts named, viz:
[I’er 100 pounds.]
* - Oats. Hay.
Fort Ethan Allen --------------------------------- $1.489 $0. 749
Fort Oglethorpe * * 1. 60 . 925
Fort Sam Houston * * * ----------------- $1.40 to 1. 495 . 5725
Fort Riley---------------------------------------- 1.46 to 1. 4975 *. 20
Fort Leavenworth--------------------------------- j. 75 to 2. O() * . 525
Fort D. A. Russell-------------------------------- 1. 60 * . 59
Fort Sheridan ------------------------------------ 1. 78 * .. 745
Fort Lawton-------------------------------------- 1. 59 . 6675
Presidio of San Francisco (barley) --_______________ 1. 22 . 64
Presidio of Monterey (barley) ---------- ----------- 1. 14 . 55
Nine months’ supply furnished from hay cut at Riley.
If all the troops in the United States were concentrated at some
point in the vicinity of New York, Chicago, or St. Louis, the cost of
transportation on the supplies required by them would undoubtedly
be much less than under present conditions. On the other hand, if
all the troops in the United States were concentrated on the Pacific
coast it is not believed any economy would be effected in the cost of
transportation of supplies, as the bulk of such supplies would have
to be transported from eastern markets. i
Mr. MoRDELL. Assuming, as the gentleman from Kentucky seems
to, that troops ought to be quartered where they are recruited and
in the vicinity of the fortunate locality that furnishes supplies,
is it not true that the bulky supplies, the heavier supplies used by
the Army, are chiefly purchased in the Middle West, at least in the
Mississippi or the western Missouri Valley, particularly the forage
for the Cavalry?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The forage for all posts is always purchased for
delivery at the post. I think that the average cost of forage in the
Middle West and also in the Northwest is less than the cost in the
East, but I should like to look up the records. I can give you a
statement.
Mr. MoRDELL. Flour, for instance, which is used very largely, is
cheapest in the vicinity of St. Louis or Minneapolis?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I should think so, but I would like to look up the
records. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Of course the central agricultural regions which
produce the bulk of the agricultural products would naturally pro-
duce and sell those products the cheapest.
Mr. SHERLEY. I care nothing about the locality, whether it happens
to be in Kentucky or Wyoming, but I do care about securing some
efficiency. These charges are being constantly made, some of them
are being made even by the War Department itself as a condemna-
tion of Congress, and I want to ascertain the facts. It does not mat-
ter whether a community sells or does not sell supplies; if it is the
place that ought to have the post from a military standpoint and
the standpoint of economy, that is where, I believe, most of us want
to put it. My inquiry is not made with any idea of preventing a
post being maintained because it is West, but simply the idea of
doing away with some of the costliness of the Army.
1. Fronn resel’ve. * L'irst quarter.
39() SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. As I understand, in submitting these estimates
you simply took into consideration the necessities of the posts as they
exist?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Exactly.
The CHAIRMAN. The question as to the propriety and advisability
of retaining them was not considered at all in your estimates?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir. What we do is this: Each post submits
an annual estimate for repairs and also for any new construction or
betterments. We take those annual estimates for betterments and
new construction and list them and submit them first to the Chief of
Staff and then later to the Secretary of War. That which I bring
to you are the estimates as revised by the Secretary of War.
The CHAIRMAN. After going from you through the Chief of Staff' .
Gen. ALESHIRE. I first revise them, then I take them to the Chief
of Staff, and he revises them, and the Secretary of War finally re-
vises them. -
DISCIPLINARY BARRACKS.
The CHAIRMAN. General, you are asking to change the limitation
about spending money for military posts on disciplinary barracks
instead of military prisons. Are all the military prisons gone?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir. Mr. Chairman, that is being handled by
the Judge Advocate General, the change of the designation of
prisons to disciplinary barracks. *
The CHAIRMAN. Have they all been changed?
Gen. ALESHIRE. There is a proviso in the incidental expenses ap-
propriation asking the authority of Congress to make the change.
The CHAIRMAN. In the Army bill?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; in incidental expenses appropriation.
Gen. Crowder had a hearing on that question. This is necessary in
order to meet a change in the policy of handling prisoners.
BARRACKS AND QUARTERS, SIA COAST DEFENSES UNITED STATES.
| See p. 398.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Barracks and quarters, Seacoast
defenses,” and you had $25,641 this year and you are asking for
$79,205 next year? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
IFORT FILAGLER, WASH.--THREE-COMPANY Post.
The CHAIRMAN. The first item is Fort Flagler, Wash.
Gen. ALESHIRE. This is a three-company Coast Artillery post,
established in 1891. This estimate contemplates the construction of
a temporary building for housing 15 enlisted men of the Quarter-
master Corps on duty there. These men are now quartered with the
troops in the barracks and in one portion of the quartermaster's
storehouse. The building proposed will be 25 by 70 feet, one story
in height.
Th; CHAIRMAN. This is one of the permanent Coast Artillery
posts?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
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FORT CASEY, WASH.-QUARTERMASTER DETACHMENT BARRACKs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ Fort Casey, Wash-Quarter-
master detachment barracks, $4,500.”
Gen. ADESHIRE. This is a company post, established in 1900. This
estimate contemplates the construction of a permanent brick bar-
racks, 26 by 45 feet, two stories in height, to accommodate 18 men of
the Quartermaster's Corps. These men are now quartered in small
buildings near the stables and in barracks.
The CHAIRMAN. One building is to house 15 men and cost $1,500,
and the other building is to house 18 men and cost $4,500?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The $1,500 one is a frame building, a temporary
structure, one story in height. The other one is to be of permanent
construction, brick, two stories in height.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why do you make the one temporary'
* Gen. ALESHIRE. The post authorities reported that a cheap build-
ing would answer the purpose and wé accepted their estimate.
Mr. SHERLEY. If it will answer the purpose there, why will it not
answer the purpose at Fort Casey?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The posts are the same size. I do not see myself
why it would not. If I were going to submit an estimate for bar-
racks for men to live in at any of the permanent posts I should not
have estimated $1,500.
Mr. SHERLEY. Those are both in connection with the chief de-
fenses of the State of Washington?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. And therefore permanent posts and always will be
maintained?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is it not advisable, then, to have a building there
that will not be just temporary?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I would have thought so, but, as I say, the post
authorities estimated for this amount and I accepted it.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the character of the other buildings there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Frame.
Mr. MoRDELL. And you will erect a building corresponding with
the others?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not think that it quite corresponds with the
others.
Mr. MonDELL. It is frame and the others are frame?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. I do not see how they could build a
building of the same type as the buildings there now for $1,500.
Mr. SHERLEY. How crowded are you there now for space?
Gen. ALESHIRE. These men are quartered in the barracks with the
troops.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is there any objection to that?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The objection is this, that these men of the quar-
termaster detachment do not belong to the organizations, and some
of them work around stables and some of them do other outside
work. Really, they are not wanted in the barracks with the organi-
zation; they feel that. I think it is best for discipline that they
should be quartered separately.
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FORT CASWELL, N. C., QUARTERMASTER DETACHIMENT, BARRACKS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fort Caswell, N. C., quarter-
master detachment barracks, $11,000.”
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is a three-company post established in 1825.
The buildings are of frame construction. The number of enlisted
men is 15. The men are now quartered in company barracks. The
post authorities state that it is very disagreeable for the post com-
manders and they desire separate quarters. There is an error in
those figures. At Fort Caswell We want to construct a detachment
barracks and a noncommissioned officers' quarters. The detachment
barracks I put at $4,500; I changed that in my book, and the non-
commissioned officers’ quarters, $3,500, which would make $8,000
instead of $11,000. &
Mr. SHERLEY. Fort Caswell is one of the minor fortifications, is
it not, General?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know much about the coast defenses, Mr.
Sherley. I never studied the subject sufficiently to inform myself.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is it? •
Gen. ALESHIRE. Just outside of Southport, N. C.
The CHAIRMAN. There are defenses and guns there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
FORT WILLIAMS, ME., QUARTERM ASTER DETACIIMENT BARRACIS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fort Williams, Me., quarter-
master detachment barracks, $12,000.”
Gen. ALESHIRE. This estimate was submitted by the department
authorities. They asked for $12,000. I have had that estimate re-
vised. The barracks is to accommodate 20 men. I have made that
$5,500 instead of $12,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where is this located'
Gen. ALESHIRE. Portland, Me.
Mr. MoRDELL. The defense of Portland?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
FORT HAMILTON, N. Y., QUARTERMASTER DETACHMENT BARRACKS.
The CHAIRMAN. "The next item is, “Fort Hamilton, N. Y., quar-
termaster detachment barracks, $10,400?
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is a five-company post. The buildings have
been more recently constructed. Some are brick and others are
frame. This building is required to quarter 21 men. I have reduced
the estimate to $5,500. º
The CHAIRMAN. I notice that these barracks are for quartermaster
detachments?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this a result of the reorganization?
Gen. ALESHIRE. It is a result of the creation of the Quartermaster
Corps. In a large number of cases we have taken frame build-
ings—an old abandoned storehouse for example—and fitted it up
as quarters for the men, but wherever, there were no buildings which
could be made available we have asked for money to quarter the
Iſle Il.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 393
The CHAIRMAN. That accounts for these requests?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. There is no place at Fort Hamilton?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The department authorities reported none.
FORT WARREN, MASS., OFFICERS’ QUARTERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ Fort Warren, Mass., one double
noncommissioned officers’ quarters, $6,500.”
Gen. ALESHIRE. This is a two-company Coast Artillery post. The
buildings are constructed of frame, stone, and brick. The noncom-
missioned officers’ quarters is reported as necessary to provide suit-
able quarters for an engineer of the Coast Artillery Corps and one
post Ordnance Sergeant now occupying quarters in old casemates,
being unsuitable for noncommissioned officers.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the only objection? 3.
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is the explanation they gave for it.
The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of fact, do you think that is a serious
objection? * .
Gen. ALESHIRE. I would like to say about the Coast Artillery esti-
mates that these estimates are revised by the Chief of Coast Artillery.
He took those up with the Chief of Staff. - . .
The CHAIRMAN. You say that all these items were revised by the
Chief of Coast Artillery' - - : -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Recommended by the Chief of the Coast Artillery.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not know much about them? r
Gen. ALESHIRE. I do not know anything about them, beyond the
information gained from the reports received with the estimates
and comments of the Office of the Chief of Coast Artillery.
The CHAIRMAN. Did he recommend the quartermaster detachment
FORT BAKER, CAL.
[See p. 401.]
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. The item of $205 for Fort Baker, Cal.,
Wants to be taken out.
ForT MONROE, VA., whâRF, ROADS, AND SEWERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fort Monroe, Va., wharf,
roads, and sewers,” and you are asking for $2,791.66, the same as
usual? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Which is one-third of the cost of maintaining
the wharf? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the actual amount required each year
for one-third & -
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes. g * . . . .
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For rakes, shovels, and
brooms,” etc., $3,366.66. In this case we pay two-thirds?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. “For waste, oil, boiler repairs, Sewer pipe, cement,
brick, and supplies,” $3,266.67. That is two-thirds?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
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SEACOAST DEFENSE, HAWAII, BARRACKS, ETC.
\
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For continuing construction
of the necessary accommodations for the Seacoast Artillery in the
Philippine Islands and Hawaii,” $408,632.44.
FORT KAMEFIAMEHA, HAWAII.
Gen. ALESHIRE. This is for Fort Kamehameha, Hawaii; four
companies of Coast Artillery. These are permanent quarters.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is this, Diamond Head?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; the entrance to Pearl Harbor. That
amount, $408,632.44, is $50,000 too much. That is to say, in making
up the estimate they made an error of $50,000 and included it in the
estimate, whereas it was stated in the record as having been expended
in a previous year for filling up some of the low places in the
reservation.
Mr. SHERLEY. What ought it to be?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The list of items under Fort Kamehameha is in
error, and I would like, if I could, to read the corrected list. The
total for Fort Kamehameha instead of $198,200, should be $232,-
232.44, and the De Russy estimate, instead of $176,400, should be
$50,000 less, $126,400.
The CHAIRMAN. What have we there now %
Gen. ALESHIRE. For the fiscal year 1915 there was appropriated
$750,000. Of that amount $244,032.44 was required to com-
plete accommodations at Fort Mills for 10 companies. The re-
mainder, $505,967.56 is allotted toward the construction of an eight-
company post at Fort Kamehameha, in accordance with the scheme
published in Document No. 276. f
The CHAIRMAN. That plant is to cost how much 3
Gen. ALESHIRE. The total of that estimate was $738,200.
The CHAIRMAN. You have had how much 3
Gen. ALESHIRE, $505,967.56. g
The CHAIRMAN. And this gives you the balance?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; to complete an eight-company post.
The CHAIRMAN. Two field officers’ quarters at $5,500 each?
Gen. ALESHIRE. That is changed. -
The CHAIRMAN. Two field officers’ quarters, $6,000 each
Gen. ALESHIRE, $12,000. Those revised figures are in accordance
with the figures given in the document, the others were not.
The CHAIRMAN. Twelve line officers’ quarters at $4,000 each,
$48,000?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Two staff officers’ quarters at $4,000 each, $8,000?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Eight noncommissioned officers’ quarters at $2,250
each, $18,000; addition to stables, $3,000; wagon shed, $6,000; one
bakery, $7,000; one laundry, $15,000; one crematory, $10,000; store-
room, $2,000; lighting system, $14,072.44; roads, $14,000; walks,
$2,700; and miscellaneous, $500? -
Gen. ALESHIRE. The figures received from the Secretary of War
included an amount in the estimate which was for the total as stated
in this printed bill, $198,200, for Fort Kamehameha. Then, atten-
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 395
tron was called to the fact that the figures given were not in accord-
ance with the plan as already submitted to Congress and that we
needed $232,232.44 to complete that post as an eight-company post.
The CHAIRMAN. In the plan as laid before Congress, were the esti-
mates sufficiently close to be relied upon?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. Now we have a plant established there
and with a proper organization I think they are going to be all right.
Mr. Chairman. o g"
The CHAIRMAN. What I had in mind was whether, with the figures
submitted, as the result of more careful and closer figures, you could
really save money?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. With this money you will have all the accommo-
dations for the Coast Artillery at the entrance to Pearl Harbor?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
FORT DE RUSSY, Hzaw AII.
The CHAIRMAN. In addition to that, you are asking for an appro-
priation for Fort De Russy. Where is that?
Gen. ALESHIRE. De Russy is on Waikiki Beach.
The CHAIRMAN. That is, east of Honolulu ?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the plan for Fort De Russy %
Gen. ALESHIRE. Two companies of Coast Artillery, Seacoast de-
fense. I have the details of the estimate as included there, the total
of which is $194,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you had 3
Gen. ALESHIRE. We have not had any permanent construction at
De Russy. We have expended $2,236.96 for temporary construction.
There were some cottages and old buildings on the property when it
was acquired. No permanent construction has been done.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is this permanent construction?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. I have a list of the buildings it is pro-
posed to construct at Fort De Russy with the amount of money we
have asked for.
The CHAIRMAN. Please give that to us. -
Gen. ALESHIRE. One barrack building, $20,000; 2 double-line
officers’ quarters, $10,000 each, $20,000; 1 building for administra-
tion purposes, guardhouse, mess hall, etc., $25,000; 2 noncommis-
sioned officers’ quarters, $5,000; 1 hospital, $15,000; water supply,
$10,000; sewer system, $2,000; lighting system, $25,000; roads, $4,000;
walks, $400; total, $126,400. With the expenditure of that money
there will be required for construction to complete this post as a
two-company artillery post, the total estimated cost of which will
be $676,000, which would make the total of the estimate as submitted
included in the document.
The CHAIRMAN. How near will that come to completing all the
buildings estimated as required for the Hawaiian Islands?
Gen. ALESHIRE. The estimate here will complete the Coast Ar-
tillery post at Kamehameha. There will be one-company barracks
to be constructed at Fort De Russy and Fort Ruger.
Mr. MondELL. The construction is mostly concrete?
396 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. Fort Ruger is to be a post of two com-
panies of Coast Artillery and one company of heavy siege artillery.
The CHAIRMAN. That is at Diamond Head?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir. It has permanent accommodations for
One company now.
The CHAIRMAN. Which of these items are important?
Gen. ALESHIRE. I think the Kamehameha estimates are the most
important of the Coast Artillery items that I have brought to your
attention in the Hawaiian Islands.
Mr. MoRDELL. How are the men at De Russy housed now %
Gen. ALESHIRE. There is some temporary shelter. We spent about
$2,200 for temporary shelter. They had some buildings that were
acquired with the land which they use. At Fort Ruger they have
constructed quarters for one company of Coast Artillery.
NATIONAL CEMETERIES.
MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING.
The CHAIRMAN. “For maintaining and improving national ceme-
teries, including fuel for superintendents, pay of laborers and other
employees, purchase of tools and materials,” you are asking $120,000.
This has been the usual appropriation, except for this year we gave
you $25,000 to clean up a lot of pressing and needed repairs?
º ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; and we have that work practically all
started.
The CHAIRMAN. And when that work is finished you will be able
to keep them up in proper shape?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CIIAIRMAN. How many of these cemeteries are there?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Eighty-three. se
The CHAIRMAN. And this covers all the cost of maintenance of the
cemeteries?
Gen. ALESIIIRE. Yes, sir.
PAY OF SUPERINTENDENTS.
The CHAIRMAN. “For pay of 76 superintendents of national ceme-
teries, $63,120.” Their salaries range from $60 to $100 a month?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; only one of them receives $100.
FIEADSTONES.
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The CIIAIRMAN. For continuing, the work of furnishing head-
stones for unmarked graves of Unión and Confederate Soldiers you
had $50,000 last year, and you are asking for $50,000 next year.
Gen. ALESHIRE. According to the best information we can get and
based upon the applications that have been received, we will need
that amount. $
The CHAIRMAN. This work has been somewhat enlarged by reason
of some enlargement of authority ?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
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REPAIRS TO ROADWAYS.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs to roadways to national cemeteries,
$12,000. Do you ever have any unexpended balance under this
appropriation?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir. There are quite a number of roads to
keep in repair for that amount of money. I have the mileage here
that we do repair.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the total mileage?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Nearly 14 miles of road.
The CHAIRMAN. That is $1,000 a mile per year?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes; but many of them are used as a common
highway.
The CHAIRMAN. I think in this good-roads scheme the largest esti-
mate for keeping roads in repair is $500 a mile.
Gen. ALESHIRE. They might be able to do that if they have a great
many miles and a well-constructed road to start with. Many of our
roads were not very well constructed.
BURIALS IN ARLINGTON CEMETERY FROM THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
The CHAIRMAN. For expenses of burying in the Arlington National
Cemetery, or in the cemeteries of the District of Columbia, indigent
ex-Union soldiers, ex-sailors, or ex-marines, etc., the appropriation
is $3,000 and you are asking for $2,000.
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; from the best information we can get, we
will require $2,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You spent in 1914, $1,311.10.
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes.
ANTIETAM BATTLE FIELD.
The CHAIRMAN. Antietam battle field: For repair and preserva-
tion of monuments, tablets, observation tower, roads, and fences, etc.,
you are asking for $3,000, and you have had that amount right along.
Do you spend that every yeapº
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you bought the Dunkard Church property?
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; we did not buy that.
The CHAIRMAN. Why not? e
Gen. ALESHIRE. We did not have any appropriation for that pur-
pose. #
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you $1,500.
Gen. ALESIIIRE. I do not think we have made the purchase. I had
overlooked the fact that you had appropriated the money. I will
get after that and look it up, Mr. Chairman.
REMAINS OF SOLDIERS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
The CHAIRMAN. Disposition of remains of officers, soldiers, civilian,
employees, etc., $57,500. Is this a permanent fund? *
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir. If you will remember, Mr. Chairman, we
used to make expenditures from “Incidental expenses,” from “Army
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transportation,” and from other appropriations in taking care of the
remains of deceased soldiers. This committee brought it all together
under one appropriation. We have found that $57,500 is just about
the right amount. For instance, in 1914 we spent $54,132.57.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice you pay the Superintendent of a morgue
in the Philippine Islands out of this appropriation.
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; as being incident to the disposition of
these remains. With this appropriation we disinter and prepare for
shipment all of the remains of soldiers and officers and others entitled
to it in the Philippines.
The CHAIRMAN. He is not only superintendent of the morgue but
has full charge of all that work?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir.
CONFEDERATE MOUND, OAKWOOD CEMETERY, CHICAGO, ILL.
The CHAIRMAN. Confederate Mound, Oakwood Cemetery, Chicago,
$250 for its annual care.
Gen. ALESHIRE. That has been the appropriation for a long while,
sir.
NION UNIENTS IN CUBA AND CHINA.
The CHAIRMAN. Monuments or tablets in Cuba and China, $1,000.
Do we pay that out every year?
Gen. ALESHIRE. Yes, sir; it has been paid out every year. Six
hundred dollars of it is for a caretaker, which leaves $400 for miscel-
laneous items.
LITTLE ROCK, ARK., NATIONAL CEMETERY.
The CHAIRMAN. Burial of deceased indigent patients in the Little
Rock, Ark., National Cemetery, you are asking $200. Is your ap-
propriation exhausted? $
Gen. ALESHIRE. No, sir; the largest amount we have ever expended
in one year was in 1913, when we spent $175. The unexpended
balance of the appropriation for 1915 is $166.
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
BARRACKS AND QUARTERS, SEACOAST ARTILLERY, UNITED STATES.
[See p. 390.]
STATEMENT OF COL. RICHMOND P. DAVIS, ASSISTANT CHIEF,
COAST ARTILLERY DIVISION.
FoRT winFIELD scoTT, CAL., OFIFICERs' QUARTERs.
The CHAIRMAN. Under barracks and quarters, Seacoast defenses,
you are asking for Fort Winfield Scott, Cal., three double noncom-
missioned officers’ quarters, $19,500. What is the necessity for these
quarters?
Col. DAVIS. We are very short of noncommissioned officers’ quar-
ters there.
The CHAIRMAN. What quarters have you there now?
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Col. DAVIS. We have seven double sets, 14 sets altogether, and 31
are required. }
The CHAIRMAN. You have 14 sets?
Col. DAVIS. Fourteen sets altogether, and 31 are required on the
project. I have just come from that station and I had to quarter
noncommissioned officers around in office buildings and places of
that kind. &
The CHAIRMAN. When you say 14 sets that means 7 double sets?
Col. DAVIS. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. What is done now to accommodate the noncom-
missioned officers who would occupy these 31 sets?
Col. DAVIS. What I did was this: For instance, I quartered two
of them up in my headquarters office building by taking things out
of the record rooms. I had to resort to things like that, and then we
obtained hired quarters for some others.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is Fort Winfield Scott?
Col. DAVIS. Just out of San Francisco, looking over the Golden
Gate. We are very short of quarters, especially at that place, and,
as I recall, I recommended seven double sets, but they only gave us
three.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is the new building we are going to build
there?
Col. DAVIS. That is for the Presidio. The Eighth Brigade and
the 10 companies of the Coast Artillery Corps occupy the same.
reservation, but there is a line dividing them. The Presidio proper,
which has the Eighth Brigade, is just down at the entrance just oppo-
site the fair grounds. Fort Winfield Scott is up on a point looking
Out over the Golden Gate.
Mr. GILLETT. How far apart, about 10 miles?
Col. DAVIS. No ; about a mile and a half altogether. They are
right on the same reservation.
Mr. GILLETT. Why would not the new building do for both pur-
poses if you are only about three-quarters of a mile away?
Col. DAVIS. That building is for barracks of the mobile Army and
these buildings are for the Coast Artillery Corps, entirely separate
and distinct Organizations, with different duties, different objects,
and everything entirely different; nothing in common at all.
FORT M'KINLEY, ME., OFFICERS' QUARTERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next is Fort McKinley, Me., two sets of non-
commissioned officers’ quarters. That is up at Portland, is it not?
Col. DAVIS. Yes, sir; and they are short there now. This is im-
portant. Fort McKinley is on Great Diamond Island, and they are
short there now one double set of noncommissioned officers’ quarters.
In addition, it is desirable to quarter over there certain civilian Cºm-
ployees, one engineer who looks after the waterworks and the crew
of one of the boats that has to lie over there. There are certain mon-
Commissioned officers’ quarters that might be used. Even if per-
chance we should be able to double up there on bachelors’ quarters,
we will be short of what is required, and that will be true even if
you give us this double set.
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FORT CASWELL, N. C., OFFICERS’ QUARTERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next is Fort Caswell, N. C., one set of non-
commissioned officers’ quarters. Where is that?
Col. DAVIS. That is at the mouth of the Cape Fear River, 24
miles from Wilmington.
The CHAIRMAN. That is a part of the defense of Wilmington?
Col. DAVIS. Yes, sir; that is the only defense on the North Caro-
lina coast at all. It is at the mouth of the Cape Fear River.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for one set of noncom-
missioned officers’ quarters there?
Col. DAVIS. The number of noncommissioned officers entitled to
quarters there is 12, while the total number of quarters provided is 8.
Mr. GILLETT. When you say that they are entitled to 12 do you
mean the force on duty there now or what they would be entitled to
if they had a full force there?
Col. DAVIS. That means for the place when full; that is their pro-
portional part as now authorized.
Mr. GILLETT. There is not any place full now Ż
Col. DAVIS. Not absolutely; no, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. The Coast Artillery posts are not nearly full?
Col. DAVIs. No, sir; we are making our estimates on a full com-
plement as now authorized. ~
Mr. GILLETT. Upon the theory that they will be full?
Col. DAVIS. Yes, sir. As it stands, for example, all that we can do
even at our most important places is to provide for about 80 per cent
of officers and noncommissioned officers as now authorized. s
Mr. GILLETT. If we should give you these additional quarters, they
would be empty a good deal of the time, would they not?
Col. DAVIS. I hardly think, with a margin of 33% per cent, that
they would :
FORT TERRY, N. Y., KITCHENS AND MESS SHELTERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next is Fort Terry, N. Y., six kitchens and
six mess shelters. *
Col. DAVIS. Those are for the troops when they go into camp for
target practice. -
The CHAIRMAN. What sort of structures are these to be?
Col. DAVIS. These are frame structures upon which we put paulin,
and we use ordinary wooden shacks for kitchens. This is on the
end of Plum Island, as you go through the race. The ones that are
there now and that are used as best they may were put up when
the Coast Artillery reserves used to go to Fort Terry instead of Fort
Wright. I was in command up there about a year ago, and the
structures are so rotten and worn out that the storms of Winter
blow them down.
FORT BANKS, MASS., OIL HOUSE.
The CHAIRMAN. For Fort Banks, Mass., you are asking for an
oil house? *
Col. DAvis. That is necessary, because there is no provision at
Fort Banks for oil storage.
Mr. (; ; LLWFT. Where is that?
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Col. DAvis. That is in the town of Winthrop. This fort is in the
middle of the town of Winthrop. There is no provision at present
for this oil and they have to stick it around anywhere.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that a part of the defense of Boston?
Col. DAVIS. Yes, sir. It is practically in the middle of the town
of Winthrop. • .
FORT BAKER, CAL., OIL HOUSE.
[See p. 393.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next is Fort Baker, Cal., an oil house.
Col. DAVIS. That can be omitted. We have been able to supply
that from funds on hand.
FORT MOULTRIE, S. C., OIL HOUSE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next is Fort Moultrie, S. C., an oil house.
Col. DAVIS. It is necessary to increase our capacity for the storage
of oil there.
The CHAIRMAN. You have an oil storage there?
Col. DAVIS. Yes, sir; and according to the reports we need to in-
crease the capacity.
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
NATIONAL MILITARY PARKS. -
STATEMENT OF MR. HENRY S. BRECKINRIDGE, ASSISTANT SEC-
RETARY OF WAR, AND MR. ROBERT E. PARKER, CLERK TO
ASSISTANT SECRETARY.
CHICIKAMATUGA AND CHATTAN OOGA PARIK.
The CHAIRMAN. Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Park;
the appropriation is $57,060 and your estimate is $57,060. Is this
park finished, Mr. Secretary?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Practically; 75 or 80 per cent of it is finished.
I should think. - * - -
The CHAIRMAN. And this is the appropriation that has been given
every year?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Yes, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You have an assistant in historical work at
$1,800? -
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. No, sir; I want to eliminate that position.
Since this estimate was put in the incumbent died, and we have abol-
ished the position.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you want to reduce the estimate?
Mr. BRECRINRIDGE. Yes, sir; by $1,800.
The CHAIRMAN. The commissioners are all alive?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And under the law vacancies occurring in these
places are not filled? -
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. No, sir.
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The CHAIRMAN. But while the present incumbents live it is under-
stood that they are to be kept Ž f
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Yes, sir. There have been no changes since
this administration came in. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking us to include authority for print-
ing, binding, and blank books. Why is that? That is in every item
that comes from the War Department. w
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. I take it it is for the same reason it was put in
last year—in anticipation of the passage of the printing bill.
The CHAIRMAN. You also ask for this language: “Purchase, main-
tenance, repair, or operation of passenger-carrying vehicles.” What
have they got down there?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. One automobile. There are 100 miles of road,
and he could not do his work if he did not have it. His main work
is overseeing the roads, and otherwise it would take him two or three
days to get around. t
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the only passenger-carrying vehicle he
has? -
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. He has one horse and one buggy also.
SIEIILOEI NATIONAL PARIC.
The CHAIRMAN. Shiloh National Military Park; the appropria-
tion is $25,800 and the estimate is the same. -
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. There is one automobile there, a little Ford.
He is 20 miles from Corinth and has 27 miles of road.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking authority to purchase Some land?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Some small portions inside of the Shiloh Park
are held by private owners and it has been the cause of a good deal
of trouble. They are extremely unsightly and we can not force the
people to keep them up. There are two old churches there.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is it estimated will be required to buy
these private holdings? - .
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Mr. Chairman, I have no detailed information
about any plan to buy specific land and as far as I am concerned, that
can go Out. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to change the title of the Secretary, to
“secretary and superintendent.” Is that because of the elimination
of one place this year?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Mr. De Long Rice went down there and had to
take the place of Maj. Reed, who was physically incapacitated and
had to leave. He had been the resident chairman and they put
this man in his place and they just wanted to give him the added title.
The CHAIRMAN. This park has 3,500 acres and 27 miles of road?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Yes. e
GETTYSBURG INATIONAL PARE.
The CHAIRMAN. Gettysburg National Park, the appropriation is
is $50,000 and the estimate is $45,000. Is this park supposed to be
finished? -
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. It is more nearly finished, I should say, than
any of the others. It is in a higher state of perfection. States and
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fººls keep putting up monuments, but the big work of the park
IS ClOD 0. &
The CHAIRMAN. Has the work of repairing the damage done to the
monuments been finished? - -
Mr. PARKER. It has not been all completed yet. . . . . .
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. It is all appropriated for and all under con-
tract. - . . . . . .
The CHAIRMAN. Have there been any more depredations?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. No, sir; at none of the parks.
The CHAIRMAN. You are also asking for “expenses for mowing,
restoration of earthworks.” Is this something additional that is
being done? , --.
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. I have no explanation of that, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many acres are in the Gettysburg Park?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Two thousand three hundred and fifty-five
acres and 56 miles of road. The saving is in the diminution of the
land purchase estimate by $1,500, the absence of a tenant-house
estimate, $500, which was included last year, diminution of the esti-
mate for the repair of buildings by $200, and of the estimate for
fencing by $200, and of the estimate, incidentals, by $525, and the esti-
mate for paints and oils, $200, and the estimate for gun-carriages,
hardware, etc., $1,875, making a total of $5,000.
VICESBURG NATIONAL PARK.
The CHAIRMAN. Vicksburg National Military Park, the appro-
priation is $42,200, and the estimate is $36,000.
Mr. BRECRINRIDGE. That saving is entirely on labor; that is, there
is not so much work remaining to be done.
The CHAIRMAN. You have an item of “Memorial bronze portraits
and granite pedestals.” -
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Yes, sir; the chairman of the commission still
insists upon finishing that work . .
The CHAIRMAN. Will this appropriation finish the work?
Mr. PARKER. There will be another appropriation next year for it;
that is, $6,000 for this fiscal year, and then I think another $6,000
will finish it.
The CHAIRMAN. You spent $13,000, in 1914 and you are asking for
$7,000 for next year. I do not remember what you had for this year.
Mr. PARKER. I think about $6,000 for this year and he wants
$6,000 more. w
The CHAIRMAN. Many of these pedestals and portraits are given.
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Yes, sir; some of them are.
The CHAIRMAN. And this is to take care of those that are not
iven 3
º BRECKINRIDGE. Yes, sir. The question was raised last year
as to the appropriateness of this policy, and I said at the time that
I thought it was a rather inappropriate way of fixing up the park,
but they had embarked on it and got about three-fourths through,
and I thought it would be a bad policy to leave about one-fourth
of the division and brigade commanders unprovided for, and I
therefore thought it wise to continue the scheme.
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The CHAIRMAN. You are changing the words “engineer and
clerk” to “clerical and other services.” You are not providing for
an engineer here?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. We had an engineer and a clerk before and we
abolished the job of clerk and made the engineer do the work of
both.
*The CHAIRMAN. You are now dropping him out entirely?
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. Dropping out the clerk.
The CHAIRMAN. No; you are dropping both the engineer and the
clerk. - A
Mr. BRECKINRIDGE. This substitutes “clerical and other services”
for “engineer and clerk.”
SATURDAY, JANUARY 9, 1915.
PEACE CELEBRATION AT WICKSBURG, MISS.
STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES W. COLLIER, A REPRESENTATIVE
IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI.
Mr. COLLIER. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, this
hearing is on the bill (H. R. 19375) introduced by me on October
21, 1914, authorizing and directing the Secretary of War to make
certain provisions for the care of the participants in the celebration
of the semicentennial of the close of the War between the States and
the centennial of the close of the last war between Great Britain
and the United States to be held at Vicksburg, Miss., on the 13th,
14th, 15th, and 16th days of October, 1915, etc.
Now, the National Association of Vicksburg Veterans is an or-
ganization composed of a number of those who fought on both sides
and who come from about 20 or more States, and they expect to hold
a celebration in Vicksburg next October. It was thought that in
these times, when other countries were in such a disturbed state, it
would be a really good thing in more ways than one while the other
countries are in the shock of conflict, for our country to be celebrat-
ing peace among the States and also the centennial of the close of the
war between Great Britain and the United States.
Now, Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, we have several gentlemen
here who would like to address you on the subject, and as the time
is limited and I can see you at some other time, I will ask you to
hear them. e
I3efore concluding, however, I want to say that I have prepared a
little amendment to the bill, which I now submit to the committee.
I will now ask Mr. Madden to address you.
STATEMENT OF HON, MARTIN B. MADDEN, A REPRESENTATIVE
IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
Mr. MADDEN. J just wish to say to the committee that I think no
better means of promoting concord, harmony, peace, and good will
and for laying the foundations for getting rid of the difficulties that
the North and South encountered during the Civil War could be
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adopted than by making an appropriation which will enable the men
who fought in the war for the Confederacy and those who fought
on the Federal side to again join together in celebrating the semi-
centennial of the cessation of the war in which the States were
engaged. The veterans of the South and those of the North, and of
both armies, will join together for the purpose of meeting, I think
it may be properly said, in union for the last time. The most of
those men are growing old, and I think it is fitting that those who
are now alive may join forces under a common flag to celebrate the
peace that resulted from the conflict between the States during the
Civil War. Everything that can be done by legislation to promote
this fraternal feeling between the North and South should be done,
and I know of no more fitting place where such a celebration could
be held than on the field where the battle of Vicksburg was fought.
My own State, perhaps, had more troops in that battle than any
other State in the Union, and the people of Illinois are especially
solicitous that the Government should cooperate with the veterans
of both armies to make this last celebration one of which every
State in the Union will feel proud. If we can we want the men who
fought in the Civil War to go to their graves with the feeling that
fraternity and friendship exist in every quarter of the Union, and
this appropriation sought by the bill introduced by Mr. Collier will
give an opportunity for that that no other activity of the Govern-
ment could make possible.
I do not know of anything else that I can say. -
Mr. COLLIER. I now want to introduce to the committee Col. John
A. Webb, of Mississippi, who will make a few remarks.
STATEMENT OF COL. JOHN A. WEBB, OF MISSISSIPPI.
Mr. WEBB. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, I am
the adjutant general of the Confederate veterans of my State, Missis-
sippi, and I am here representing the Mississippi division of the
United Confederate Veterans, an organization that has heartily in-
dorsed this movement. In 1913, at our convention at Greenwood,
Miss., resolutions indorsing this proposition were unanimously
adopted, and, again, in Jackson, Miss., in 1914, like resolu-
tions were adopted. I was appointed a committee to do what I
could, in my official capacity, and as the representative of Capt.
Ratliff, who is a member of the Executive Board of the National
Association of Vicksburg Veterans in the furtherance of this move-
ment. We really want this reunion, and we believe that great good
will be accomplished by having it at Vicksburg. I have heard a
great deal said about the Gettysburg reunion and the amount of good
that was done. Capt. J. C. Purnell, the father-in-law of one of
your Members, Mr. Sisson, paid the way of six Confederate veterans
to Gettysburg and went himself. He said to me: “Capt. Webb, that
is the best money I ever spent in my life; it was just simply wonder-
ful to see those old veterans of the Blue and Gray meet each other in
cordial greeting, and,” he said: “I do not begrudge a dollar of it.”
He said furthermore : “If this reunion at Vicksburg is carried
through. I want to say that I will give $100 to pay the way of any
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veterans Who Want to go.” I do not know what more I can say to
you. I have letters of introduction from the governor, and from
almost every prominent man in my State, asking you gentlemen to
make this appropriation.
Mr. GILLETT. Has the State appropriated anything?
Col. WEBB. No, sir; our legislature does not meet until 1916.
Mr. GILLETT. When did it last meet?
Col. WEBB. In 1913. A bill was introduced, but it was not car-
ried, by reason of one or two men who claimed to have been Con-
federate veterans and who protested against it. We have some of
those gentlemen in our country just like you have up in this country,
but the rank and file, or 999 per cent, of the Confederate veteran
who were under fire are anxious for this opportunity. -
Mr. SHERLEY. How many veterans on the two sides are expected
to attend? How many are there?
Col. WEBB. I would imagine that there would be not less than
10,000 from the North. Illinois will possibly send 5,000, and Mis-
sissippi, of course, would send quite a number. We have not many
veterans left.
Mr. SHERLEY. How many were engaged in the fighting around
Vicksburg on both sides?
Col. WEBB. I will let my friend Col. Koch answer that question.
I was in Virginia all of the time. I am a citizen of Mississippi now,
but I have not those figures. Col. Roch could answer that question.
I do not think it necessary to say anything more than I have said.
I have a letter from the governor and letters from other prominent
men, and I have got some resolutions here that were passed by one
of the camps in your State, Mr. Chairman. I do not think I need
to take up any more of your time. Col. Koch, who was a participant
in this battle, knows more about this question than I do.
MIssissippſ ExDCUTIVE DEPARTMENT,
Jackson, September 5, 1914.
To whom, it may concern:
This will introduce Capt. John A. Webb, of Jackson, Miss. Capt. Webb goes
to Washington in the interest of the Peace Jubilee Celebration in Vicksburg in
1915, in an effort to assist in securing a proper appropriation by Congress to
entertain visiting veterans of both armies.
Capt. Webb is a gentleman of standing in our State; he is a good business
man and has the respect of our people. He has taken an intense interest in
matters pertaining to commemorating events of the Civil War, both Federal
and Confederate, and I bespeak for him the consideration and courtesy of all
with whom he may come in Contact.
Yours, very truly,
EARL BREWER, GOvermor.
| Act No. Siſ. Seuate concurrent resolution No. 19.]
Whereas the National Association of Vicksburg Veterans, an organization of
surviving Civil War veterans, who served in the Vicksburg campaign from
March 29 to July 4, 1863, through its officers, have memorialized the Con-
gress of the United States with a request for recognition and assistance in
carrying out the commendable purposes Of commemorating the Semicentennial
of the ending of the Civil War and return to peace and the upbuilding to
perpetuity brotherly and fraternal amity between the North and South ; and
Whereas the most appropriate place for the reunion is the Wicksburg National
Military Park, where are the peaceful resting places of many thousands of
noble Union and Confederate heroes; and &
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Whereas this ideal national park is chosen for the contemplated National
Celebration and Peace Jubilee to be held in the month of October, 1915, in
commemoration of the semicentennial of the ending of the Civil War, in 1865,
and the centennial of the conclusion of peace with Great Britain in 1815,
which has been followed by the inestimable blessing of uninterrupted peace
with that nation and the principal European nations; and
Whereas the Grand Army of the Republic in national encampment held at
Chattanooga, Tenn., On September 20, 1913, by a unanimous vote adopted
resolutions in Support of this proposed celebration at Vicksburg; and the
Mississippi Division of the United Confederate Veterans, in annual reunion
at Greenwood, Miss., On October 9, 1913, adopted like resolutions in support
of Said celebration; and - .
Whereas the National Association of Vicksburg Veterans, in behalf of the sur-
Viving Veterans who served in the Civil War, 1861–1865, desires to unite with
the State of Mississippi and the Board of Trade of Vicksburg, Miss., in extend-
ing a COrdial invitation to all Civil Wal: veterans of the North and South to
participate in this celebration, and has, as aforesaid, memorialized the Con-
greSS Of the United States to appropriate sufficient means for the necessary
Supplies and Camp equipment for the sustenance, comfort, and convenience of
the attending veterans during the continuance of four to six days’ celebration :
Now, therefore, be it *
Resolved by the Scnate of Louisiana (the House of Representatives concur-
Ting), That we hereby approve, indorse, and commend this laudable under-
taking by the National Association of Wicksburg Veterans, and we urge our
Senators and Representatives from this State to join with the . Senators and
Representatives from Mississippi and adjacent States, looking to favorable action
by the Congress Of the United States On the memorial of the National ASSOCi-
ation of Wicksburg Veterans : Be it further
Resolved, That the secretary of state is hereby instructed to forthwith trans-
mit copies of these preambles and resolutions to the Members of the United
States Senate and House of Representatives from this State.
THoMAs C. BARRET,
Lieutenant Governor and President of the Senate.
L. E. THOMAS,
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Approved July 6, 1914.
L. E. HALL,
Governor of the State of Louisiana.
A true Copy:
ALVIN E. HEBERT, Secretary of State.
HEADouarTERs CAMP JIM PIRTLE, U. C. V.
At a regular meeting of Jim Pirtle Camp, U. C. V., No. 990, held this the
2d day of January, 1915, the following resolution was offered by Comrade R. A.
Browder, adjutant, and on motion was unanimously adopted, to Wit:
Whereas the National Association of Veterans, Composed Of the Blue and
Gray, have determined to hold a peace jubilee at Vicksburg, Miss., on October
13–16, 1915, of all veterans composing the Blue and Gray; we as Confederate
veterans most heartly indorse said reunion, and hereby respectfully petition
and urge our Senators and Representatives in Congress to vote for and urge
the adoption of a bill appropriating the sum of $150,000, or so much as may be
necessary thereof, for the upkeep and maintenance of said meeting as outlined
in House bill 19375, introduced by Representative Collier, of Mississippi.
R. A. BRowdTR,
Adjutant of Camp Jim Pirtle 990, Fulton, Ky.
FULTON, KY., December —, 1914.
We, the undersigned citizens of Fulton and County of Fulton, respectfully
petition each of the Senators and Representatives in the Congress of the United
States to vote for and use their influence in passing a bill (H. R. 19875) ap-
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propriating the sum of $150,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary for
the upkeep and maintenance of the reunion or peace jubilee to be held at
Vicksburg, Miss., of the Blue and Gray October 13–16, 1915; said money to be
Spent under the control and supervision of the Secretary of War as specified
in Said bill ; Said reunion to be held on the historic grounds of the battle or
Siege of Vicksburg in celebration of the semicentennial of the close of the War
between the States, and the centennial of the close of the war between Great
Britain and the United States:
R. A. Browder,
J. P. Workman,
H. H. Brooks,
J. F. Thomas,
W. J. Nanny,
W. H. Roach,
C. H. Cathry,
J. H. Blair,
W. S. Love, Company I, Eighty-seventh Ohio,
J. N. Blackman,
G. W. Moss,
R. S. Brown,
J. W. Pirth,
B. J. Hardeman, M. D.,
Robert Williams,
W. D. Slayden,
B. Langford,
J. B. Brooks,
J. W. Adams,
D. J. Lawrence,
Robt. Hicks,
G. E. Hicks,
Cal Hicks,
R. H. Mitchel],
R. J. Grace,
H. P. Langford,
Sam Fields,
M. M. Cox,
T. F. Ivy,
J. M. Hoar,
Wm. F. Cathey, and
Dr. EI. T. Alexander.
Mr. COLLIER. I take great pleasure in introducing to the com-
mittee Col. Koch, who was a participant in the battle.
STATEMENT OF COL. CHARLES R. E. KOCH.
Col. KOCH. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, I was
telling my friend here this morning that I felt just about the same
in approaching this event as I did 51 years ago in participating in
the assault on the Confederate works—I have just about as much
trepidation, but I feel as much justified in coming to you now as
I felt at that time in doing what I did.
If you will permit me, I wish to give you a brief outline of the
beginning of this movement. In the first place, the Gettysburg
proposition was the basic work. In 1912 I had the honor of being
the adjutant general of the Grand Army of the Republic, and as
such I affixed my signature to a document which, I believe, will
always stand as a proud monument to American citizenship. I am
not the author of it. I will read just a section. It was the invitation
extended by the Grand Army of the Republic to the United Con-
federate Veterans to participate in the reunion at Gettysburg, and
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the language, I think, applies with equal force to our present propo-
sition [reading] : • - -
If this event might mark the final and complete reconciliation between those
Of the Opposing Armies of 50 years ago, and the permanent establishment of
harmonious and fraternal relations between the North and South, it would Cer-
tainly gladden the hearts of all our countrymen. . *
TO that end, Voicing, as he believes, the common Sentiment of his Comrades,
and Speaking for them in that behalf, the commander in chief of the Grand
Army of the Republic extends to you and your comrades of the United Con-
federate Veterans most cordial greetings, and sincerely requests that you and
your Comrades, in numbers as great as shall be possible, join with the veterans
of the Grand Army of the Republic in the celebration of the semicentennial
anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg.
Let us assemble there, and meet and greet each Other hand in hand and heart
to heart in the spirit of true friendship and brotherhood, born out of love for
the flag and devotion to Our Common country. Thus will all the wounds Of Our
former strife be healed, as they must sometime be, that this people, as a united
and vital force may effectively and mightily solve the problems of Our Nation's
destiny in world affairs and human progreSS.
Let us assemble there and inaugurate a great peace monument, under which
shall be entombed forever any lingering prejudices and bitterness that may
have survived the ebbing tides of passion through half a century of peace,
to symbolize to all Our people, and to the generations yet to be, that even out
of the dead dust and ashes of war, under the sunlight of our Christian civiliza-
tion, the fragrant flowers of peace and amity may grow and bloom.
Let us assemble there where so many comrades Of the Blue and of the Gray
found common Sepulcher on that historic field, made immortal in the world’s
memory by their tunexcelled heroism, and there, in that sacred presence,
mutually pledge to each other our constant fealty to a reunited and indisso-
luble American Republic. .
With this invitation goes the outstretched hand of friendship, which I feel
will surely be accepted in the spirit in which it is extended.
Fraternally and sincerely, yours,
H. M. TRIMBLE,
Commander in Chief Grand A7'my of the Republic.
CHARLEs R. E. Koch, . -
Adjutant General.
I read this simply as the basis for our present movement. Im-
mediately after this invitation was accepted the States proceeded
to make appropriations, our own State among others, and just as
Soon as that was done a number of the veterans from the West—from
Illinois, Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin—whose service was almost en-
tirely in the western Army, raised the point that in Gettysburg
there were only three regiments from Illinois, while at Vicksburg
there were 79, and that consequently, the interest of the veterans
who served in the Illinois regiments was very much minimized in
the Gettysburg affair, but some of us rallied to the support of
Gettysburg and said that it was particularly our due to support the
Gettysburg movement and to relegate Wicksburg to the rear, that in
a few years would come the semicentennial of peace and that it
would be eminently proper then to have a celebration at Vicksburg
to be not in honor of war, but in extolling the victories of peace,
its virtues and great blessings. With that understanding we ap-
pealed to our legislatures and secured appropriations to send to
Gettysburg, not the men who served from Illinois, but the men who
were living in Illinois at that time both from the South and the
North. I had the honor and pleasure of assisting in securing those
appropriations.
Here is a remarkable condition which I should like to point out
to you gentlemen. The Battle of Gettysburg was fought on northern
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soil where the Confederates were the assailing force and the Union
force the defenders. It was in the extreme northeast of our country.
At the same time the campaign and siege of Vicksburg took place,
another contest upon southern soil, where the Southern hosts de-
fended and the Union forces attacked. It was then almost in the
extreme southwest section of our country, so far as active work
was concerned. There was some maneuvering in Texas at that
time, but not to any great extent. Peace was finally achieved in this
section of our country several months after Appomattox. .
You might ask, “Why do you single out Vicksburg rather than
some other western city' Simply because at Vicksburg were as-
sembled the greatest number of soldiers in any contest from that
section of the country, which was not largely represented in the
Gettysburg battle. It seems to us eminently just to encourage this
movement and to give to the people of the West and the South-
west this opportunity now to assemble there and to proclaim to all
the world that the civilization of the United States differs from
that of any other nation, and that we have gotten together and are
now laboring to maintain peace and harmony and good fellowship.
We then formed an organization by correspondence with the Sur-
viving veterans in all the States. This was effected in August, 1913.
A question was asked as to how many troops were engaged in this
contest. There were from Alabama 19 organizations, Arkansas, 14;
Florida, 3; Georgia, 21; Kentucky, 8; Louisiana, 41; North Caro
lina, 3; Missouri, 15; Mississippi, 30; Maryland, 1; South Carolina,
12; Tennessee, 30; Texas, 16; Virginia, 1; Confederate States Army,
1, and miscellaneous organizations, 5. There were 229 organizations
in all engaged in the siege of Vicksburg on the Confederate side on
the Mississippi side of the river, not including the forces who were
working for the relief of Vicksburg under Gen. Dick Taylor on the
Louisiana side.
In the Union Army, 79 organizations from Illinois; Indiana, 28;
Iowa, 32; Kansas, 1 ; Kentucky, 3; Louisiana, there were 5 colored
regiments raised there; Massachusetts, 3; Michigan, 9; Minnesota, 4;
Missouri, 25; New Hampshire, 3; New York, 4; Ohio, 38; Penn-
sylvania, 5; Rhode Island, 1 ; United States Army, 3; West Virginia,
1, and Wisconsin, 17. Total, 264. The preponderance of that great
army was of western troops, which is not derogatory to the eastern
troops, simply they were not sent there.
With reference to sentiment, attention may be called to the monu-
ment from Pennsylvania erected to her five organizations there. On
this the following legend is chiseled:
Here brothers fought for their principles;
Here heroes died for their country, and a
|United people will forever cherish the precious
Ilegacy of their noble manhood. -
That is a tribute from the State of Pennsylvania, a northern
State, upon that soil. - -
You may ask, “Why do you come to us with this proposition
when the State of Mississippi has made no appropriation?” I
want to say in answer that our organization did not ask the State
of Mississippi to make an appropriation. We have realized from
the beginning that the State of Mississippi was purely an agricul-
tural State; that it had its troubles; that it was not as rich as the
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State of Pennsylvania was, and that it was not in a position to make
an appropriation beyond the fact that it will take care of its own
who may participate, and therefore we felt that the United States
Government should be the host of this occasion; that no extrava-
gant expenditure should be allowed, and that plain fare should be
provided for under the direction of United States officers entirely
and by direction of the Secretary of War. There is no attempt made
to create a job for anybody. A few of us have been bearing the brunt
of it up to date out of our own pockets. -
The CHAIRMAN. What will be the situation in view of the fact
that the State of Mississippi has declined to appropriate?
Col. KOCEI. The only appropriation asked from Mississippi was
to defray the expenses of the veterans of the blue and gray who
might desire to participate in the reunion living in that State.
Mississippi was not asked for an appropriation other than other
States interested. Mississippi will take care by contribution, we
are assured, of their own men in attendance there, and the State has
authorized the county of Warren and the city of Vicksburg to make
liberal appropriations.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand that the legislature will not meet
in time.
Col. KOCH. The legislature will not meet, but there will be private
contributions.
Mr. GILLETT. Individual contributions?
Col. KOCH. Yes, sir; individual subscriptions. -
Mr. WEBB. The city of Vicksburg is authorized by an enabling act
to contribute $10,000 toward this fund, and the county of Warren, in
which Vicksburg is located, is also authorized by an enabling act to
contribute $5,000. . . . . . • '
Col. Koch. This bill as drawn did not provide anything for the
expenses of the council of administration of the National Vicksburg
Association and we have suggested, by request, that a provision be
made that whenever the Secretary of War—assuming that this bill
becomes a law—should call this council together that their legitimate
expenses be paid. That is all. - -
On March 28, 1914, at a meeting of the association duly held at
Chicago, Ill., and at which eight States were represented, this resolu-
tion was adopted:
At a meeting of the executive committee of the National Association of
Vicksburg Veterans, held in the city of Chicago, March 28, 1914, among other
matters before the said meeting, it was moved, Seconded, and adopted by a
unanimous vote, that a council of administration (Of the National Association
of Vicksburg Veterans) be authorized and formed, composed of seven members.
of whom Charles R. E. Koch shall be one and designated as Chairman of the
said council, with power to select his associate members, three of whom shall
represent the Federal and three the Confederate Civil War veterans, as existing
during the Civil War. The president of the National Association of Vicksburg
Veterans shall be an ex officio member of said council. l
" I want to say that reading this resolution places me in rather
an embarrassing position. It would look as though I had steered
matters in order to make myself the head of this entire organization.
I want to say to you in all frankness and candor that I would be
perfectly willing to be relegated to the realm of inocuous desuetude
if that fact should have any bearing on the matter.
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I want to say further that in carrying out this resolution both the
president of the association and myself addressed letters to a num-
ber of governors requesting them to appoint representatives from
their States to serve on this council, and as a result we have, upon
the nomination of the governors, Capt. W. T. Ratliff, of Raymond,
Miss.; Gen. A. J. West, of Atlanta, Ga.; Hon. W. C. Allen, of Day-
ton, Tenn.; Col. James Kilbourne, of Columbus, Ohio; Capt. E. J. C.
Bealer, of Cedar Rapids, Iowa; and Maj. Leo. Rassieur, of St. Louis,
Mo., a former commander in chief of the Grand Army of the Re-
public, balancing the council in this way, there are three members
representing the Confederate States; there are three members repre-
senting the Northern States, and there is one member representing
the State of Missouri, which was equally represented in the siege of
Vicksburg, there being a number of troops in both armies from the
State of Missouri; that is, I think, our case stated as briefly as I can
state it to you, gentlemen. I hope that the object in view may be
of sufficient importance in your minds to give us a favorable recom-
mendation. Then, if it is, of course it will be necessary to secure
action as speedily as possible because we must go before the State
legislatures and obtain the appropriations. I am certain that the
State of Illinois will appropriate at least $50,000 for that purpose;
in fact, we have the assurance of the governor’s support.
This meeting being called rather sooner than we expected, our
council has not been able to be here in its full strength. I wrote to
the members, but evidently my mail has miscarried, because I have
received no answer, except one from Mr. E. J. C. Bealer, of Cedar
Rapids, Iowa. This morning I received the following telegram
from him :
On behalf of the veterans of the State of Iowa, who had 70 per cent of their
total enlistment in the Vicksburg campaign, I most heartily indorse, approve,
and urge the appropriation asked for by the Vicksburg Peace Jubilee Associa-
tion and substantially as provided in the Collier bill.
The appropriation asked for is $150,000. I am not at all sure
that it will need anywhere near that amount. I am quite sure that
with the present efficient and economical administration of the War
Department, the Secretary of War will not permit any unnecessary
expenditures. Most of the things needed are already in the posses-
sion of the Government and it will not require any great expendi-
ture, because a few troops could police the camp and the tents and
camp equipage are all at hand. It would be necessary to put water
in there and perhaps some sewers, but the proposition is an easy
one. Of course, the guests will have to be provided for.
Mr. Sherley has asked how many there would probably be. Of
course, that is largely guesswork; but, bearing in mind that at
Gettysburg, with all the great allurement, there were about 55,000,
and that that celebration occurred three years earlier, I should not
put it higher than 15,000, and probably 12,000 would cover the
number. The total number engaged on the Confederate side at
Vicksburg proper, not including Gen. Johnston's army, was probably
45,000; 31,000 surrendered at the capitulation of the city. There
were altogether in the Confederate Army, including Gen. Johnston's
army at Jackson and vicinity, between 75,000 and 80,000. The
Union Army probably reached 100,000. The surviving members of .
that campaign—those who are able to travel and are possessed with
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sufficient health to-day—would consider it a blessing and a great
honor and a great opportunity to visit that beautiful national park,
which is second only to that of Gettysburg, before they finally lay
themselves down to rest.
I wish to submit a resolution adopted at the time of the Grand
‘Army encampment on September 1, 1914, as a part of my remarks.
A RESOLUTION.
Whereas on the call of the National Association of Vicksburg Veterans, repre-
sentatives duly appointed by the respective State departments of the Grand
Army of the Republic have assembled in the city of Detroit, Mich., this 1st
day of September, 1914, in a conference meeting for that purpose properly
called, in respect to the proposed national celebration and peace jubilee in
commemoration of the semicentennial of the ending of the Civil War between
the States, the fifty-second anniversity of the investment and campaign Of
Vicksburg, and the centennial of the treaty of Ghent—the conclusion of peace
with Great Britain; and
Whereas the surviving veterans of the Civil War from the North and from the
South desire the said celebration to be carried out in the Spirit Of devoutly
commemorating the aforesaid events and in the advancement of returning
brotherly amity that shall more closely cement all the Sister States in an
inseparable Nation of States for the perpetuity of happiness and prosperity
to its people; and
Whereas it is the desire of the veterans represented in this meeting, that Ino
individual State or associated States shall be burdened With Ol' assume a
greater responsibility or be placed in greater honor as host of the Occasion
than any other sister State, except that each State shall retain its right and
privilege to provide transportation and incidentals for the resident veterans
Within Such State : Therefore be it *
Resolved, That the Senators and Representatives in Congress are hereby
respectfully and urgently requested to use their best endeavors to the end that
Congress shall grant an adequate appropriation for the preparation Of the
required camp in the Vicksburg National Military Park and Drovide the re-
quired tentage and camp equipage and the necessary supplies prepared for the
sustenance and comfort of the attending veterans. The conduct and control
of said celebration shall be in charge of the United States Government as host,
and the Civil War veterans of the North and of the South Shall be its guests;
and * -
Resolved, That the president of the National Association of Vicksburg Wet-
erans is hereby directed to transmit copies of these resolutions to the Senators
and Representatives in the Congress, the governors of all the States, alld to the
department commanders of the Grand Al'my of the IRepublic, and to the division
commanders of the United Confederate Veterans. * * *
º THE NATIONAL Association of WICKSBURG VETERANS,
F. A. ROZIENE, l’reSident.
S. J. HILL,
Secretary pro tem, Assistant Adjutant General Department
North, Dalcota, G. A. R.
Official :
J. M. VERNON, Secretary.
I thank you, gentlemen, very much for your attention. *
Mr. Corrier. I desire to say a few words in reference to some
things that have been said. This is not a Mississippi proposition.
This is not a Vicksburg proposition. If it were a Vicksburg or, a
Mississippi proposition I would not be here with a bill asking the
Federal Government to take care of Vicksburg's or Mississippi's
guests, because they can always do that themselves. As I understand
the matter, this idea originated in Illinois, and then was taken up
by veterans throughout the different States, North and South, and
Wicksburg was selected as the place of meeting.
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As far as Mississippi contributing, Mississippi is in the same situ-
ation in reference to this matter by legislative action as any other
State. It is easy to see why Vicksburg should have been selected,
because of its historic significance, because of the great battle that
was fought at that place, because since that time the Congress of the
United States has recognized Vicksburg by establishing a great mili-
tary park there, in which a number of States—New York, Illinois,
Massachusetts, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Rhode Island,
Mississippi, and quite a number of others—have placed State me-
morials, and by reason of its historic significance and the fact that
Vicksburg during that time was the theater of a great struggle, that
place was selected.
As I understand it, this appropriation is simply intended to pro-
vide proper Sewerage, Sanitation, hospital Service, etc., and also camp
equipment and certain rations and supplies which would have been
asked of the Federal Government no matter where this meeting
should have gone. As far as the States themselves are concerned,
my understanding is that all they are expected to do is to see that
their men get there. Am I right about that?
Mr. WEBB. Yes, sir. *
Mr. Colliſºr. Gentlemen, I am very much obliged to the committee
for this hearing, and I hope that you will very carefully consider
this matter. I believe that a meeting of this kind will be conducive
to the spreading of good feeling and good fellowship throughout
the country. I realize the difficulties that confront the Appropria-
tions Committee at this time. In conclusion I Want to thank the
committee again for the hearing which you have given us.
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
ENGINEER DEPARTMENT.
STATEMENTS OF LIEUT. COL, EDGAR. JADWIN, ASSISTANT TO THE
CHIEF OF ENGINEERS, AND COL. L. M. BRETT, ACTING SUPER-
INTENDENT OF YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK.
YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARE.
MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR of IMPROVEMENTS.
The CHAIRMAN. For the maintenance and repair of improvements
in Yellowstone National Park you are asking $150,000. The cur-
rent appropriation is $125,000.
Col. JADw1N. That is for maintenance only. The total appro-
priations this last year were $255,000 and the total asked this year
is $250,000.
The CHAIRMAN. But in this particular item you are asking for
$25,000 more than you have for the current year? -
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir. Out of that we wish to use for road sur-
face, maintenance, and repairs on 293 miles of road, including drag-
ging roads, hauling and supplying earth and gravel for repairs,
repairing washouts, etc., $15,000; for dust prevention on 135 miles
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of road on main tourists’ routes, at $165 per mile, for the oiling of
gravel roadway near the north entrance, and sprinkling with water
on remainder of the road where the cost of oiling would be exces-
sive, $22,275; on bridges, for maintenance, including painting and
reflooring steel and wood bridges, minor repairs to wood bridges,
replacement of small wooden bridges by concrete bridges and cul-
verts, replacement of large wooden bridges by steel or concrete
bridges, rebuilding of wooden bridges, $19,000; for culverts, includ-
in the replacement of wooden culverts by iron culverts, $5,000; for
retaining walls, including the replacement of unsafe walls by rock
walls laid in cement mortar, $2,000; for guard walls, including the
rebuilding of old guard walls by permanent walls and addition of
new walls at dangerous points, $2,000; for clearing roads and pro-
tecting roads against rock and earth slides, and widening roads on
dangerous rocky points, $6,000; for property, plant, and equipment,
including replacements other than bridges—for purchase and con-
struction, $6,000, and for upkeep $2,000, making a total of $8,000.
In the spring of 1916 we would like to spend on repairs On 293
miles of road, including repairs to road surface required through
damage by melting Snow, draining and filling mud holes, shaping
roads with graders and drags, temporary repairs to bridges and re-
taining Walls, temporary replacements of broken culverts by Wood
culverts, filling or bridging of Washouts, the sum of $20,000; for the
resurfacing of roads, hauling and applying of gravel, rolling, etc.,
on 30 miles of road, at $900 per mile, we ask $26,000; for the realign-
ment and regrading of roads we estimate $14,725; for forest-reserve
road east of park, consisting of 28 miles, the total estimated for main-
tenance of roadways, including clearing of brush and timber from
roadside, draining and filling of mud holes, replacement of broken
culverts, repair of bridges, etc., is $7,500; for the forest-reserve roads
South of the park, 26 miles in length, the total estimated for mainte-
nance of roadway as for road in forest reserve east of pary, is $2,500.
The CHAIRMAN. In what items do you propose increases over the
appropriations for the current year?
Col. JADWIN. On road surface maintenance and repairs we have a
decrease of $3,000; on dust prevention we have an increase of $6,275,
or from $16,000 to $22,275. However, we had last year a separate
item of $3,200 for oiling, which reduces the $6,275 by $3,200. For
maintenance of bridges we have an increase of $6,000, or from
$19,000 to $25,000, although we had a separate additional item last
year of $4,800, which reduces that $6,000 to $1,200. For culverts we
have an increase of $200, or from $4,800 to $5,000; for retaining walls
we have a decrease of $1,000, or from $3,000 to $2,000; for guard
walls we have the same amount, $2,000; for clearing roads and pro-
tecting them against slides, etc., we have an increase of $2,000, or
from $6,000 to $8,000; for property, plant, and equipment we have
the same amount, $8,000; for spring repairs we have an increase of
$2,000, namely, from $18,000 to $20,000; for resurfacing roads we
have an increase of $11,000, or from $15,000 to $26,000. Then, we
have an additional item of $14,725 for the realignment and regrading
of roads.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that?
Col. JADw1N. There are several pieces of road that have been in a
particularly bad condition for several years. The principal. One of
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them is the stretch of road between Norris and the canyon. That
stretch of road was in bad shape when I saw it two years ago, and
since that time they have put the minimum amount of the available
money on that road necessary to keep it passable, with the thought
that it would be better to relocate it when they got through with
some more pressing things. The district officer spoke about it here
last year, and it was talked over in the department for some time; but
it was decided to let it pass over until this year. This year the
present district officer has taken the matter up very urgently and
insists that it is extremely important. In fact, after he got on the
ground, he asked to be permitted to divert Some money from the
current appropriation to it, but the department disapproved of that,
because a different position had been taken before you at the hearings.
The department feels now that it is a very important matter.
The CHAIRMAN. You have been expending a very large sum for
maintenance during the last few years. It has been considerably
increased since 1912.
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir; we are getting some of the roads nearly in
the shape that they ought to be in. You will recall that they had
run down badly, and, as Col. Brett says, they were going back very
rapidly; but during the past two years we have been able to build
them up considerably. This is a very pressing stretch now.
The CHAIRMAN. In addition, you are asking that this money be
made immediately available and to continue available until expended.
That would make a continuing appropriation of this,
Col. JADWIN. I think that it ought to be that Way.
The CHAIRMAN. But that is entirely contrary to the policy of
Congress. *
Col. JADWIN. Well, the working season is very short, and the end
of the fiscal year comes in the middle of the working season; and
that has added to the cost of the work several times in the past. If
it were made available for one additional year, or even for an addi-
tional six months, it would cover the worst part of that trouble.
ROADS, BRIDGES, AND CULVERTS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For widening and improving
surface of roads and for building bridges and culverts from the belt-
line road to the Western border from the Thumb Station to the south-
ern border, and from the fake Hotel Station to the eastern border,
all within the Yellowstone National Park, to make such roads suit-
able and Safe for animal-drawn and motor-propelled vehicles, to be
immediately available and to remain available until expended,
$80,000.” The current appropriation is $100,000. What was the
estimated cost of doing this work?
Col. JADWIN. It was $340,700 for the part within the park and
$104,000 for the part in the forest reserve. :
The CHAIRMAN. I mean just this particular portion.
Col. JADWIN. I did not catch the description.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean the portion described here in the item,
from the belt-line road to the western border, from the Thumb
Station to the southern border, and from the Lake Hotel Station to
the eastern border, all within Yellowstone National Park. |
Col. JADw1N. The estimated cost of that was $340,700.
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The CHAIRMAN. And you have had $250,000?
Col. JADw1N. We have had $252,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Will that work be completed from this $80,000?
Col. JADw1N, $88,700 is the amount estimated to complete it.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to drop out this limitation “to not
exceeding 18 feet.” -
Col. JADWIN. I think that Col. Brett can perhaps give you a state-
ment concerning the width of the roads better than I can. He is the
Superintendent of the park, and is in there all during the season.
Col. BRETT. It is contemplated that the roads will be used by both
motor-propelled vehicles and animal-drawn vehicles, and the engi-
neer and myself thought that 18 feet was rather narrow.
The CHAIRMAN. Sixteen feet is the standard width for roads in
the State of New York.
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; but these roads
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). The committee has understood that
if the roads were made 18 feet in width they would be sufficient.
Col. BRETT. There are so many of those horses down there that do
not like automobiles. . -
The CHAIRMAN. We can not build enough roads to stand aside all
the wild horses in the West. That would add very materially to the
cost, would it not? -
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; there is no doubt about that.
Col. JADw1N. Would it not be quite a help if we could have a little
more latitude as to the width of the roads at the bends? Would
not that give quite a percentage of increased safety—not to be held
down to a rigid rule of 18 feet?
Col. BRETT. Yes.
*ś,
ROADS, BRIDGES, AND CULVERTS THROUGH FOREST RESERVE,
The CHAIRMAN. The nevt item is, “For widening and improving
the surface of roads and for building bridges and culverts in the
forest reserve, leading out of the park from the east boundary, to
make such roads suitable and safe for animal-drawn and motor-pro-
pelled vehicles, to be immediately available and to continue available
until expended.” The current appropriation is $30,000, and you are
asking for $20,000. It was estimated that this work would cost how
much 3 . -
Col. JADw1N. Fifty-six thousand dollars.
The CHAIRMAN. And you are asking for $20,000?
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir; $20,000 this year, of the remaining $26,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Will the remaining $6,000 finish it?
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir; it will be finished with the other $6,000, to
the best of our information.
ESTIMATES TO BE SUBMITTED BY INTERIOR DEPARTMENT.
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The CHAIRMAN. You include the following new provision:
EIereafter estimates for improvements in the Yellowstone National Park shall
be submitted by the Secretary of the Interior, and the work of such improve-
ments shall be performed under the immediate Supervision of an Engineer
officer of the Army to be charged with that duty by the Secretary of War:
72785–15––27
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Provided, That all disbursements from appropriations made in pursuance of
Such estimates shall be made by the Interior Department upon vouchers ap-
proved by the Engineer officer in charge of the work. -
In that connection the Chief of Engineers, in a communication,
makes the following statement:
Referring to the paragraph on pages 172 and 173 providing for the submis-
SiOn hereafter by the Secretary of the Interior of the estimates for improve-
ments in Yellowstone National Park, the Secretary of War has authorized me
to say that I did not recommend that proposition. This remark is offered in
this connection for the reason that the proviso is found in the matter on which
you ask me to pass, and my return of the sheets without remark on the Subject
may possibly give the impression that the plan accords with my views.
WIDTEI OF ROADS.
Mr. MoRDELL. What has been your experience with regard to this
limitation of the park roads to 18 feet in width}
Col. JADWIN. Col. Brett has just made a statement touching that
matter, Mr. Mondell.
Mr. MoRDELL. It was placed in the record while I was out?
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir.
Col. BRETT. Mr. Mondell knows western horses very well, and
especially those horses that are drawing the coaches and surreys in
the park. Those horses go in the fall from their work in the park
right over the mountains to the range, and they are brought back in
summer and put right on the coaches after a day or two of exercise.
The operation of these horse-drawn teams on 18-foot roads where
motor-propelled vehicles were running was considered very danger-
ous by the Engineer officer and myself, and we thought that we
should make them as wide as we could within a reasonable expendi-
ture, if we could get authority so to do. That was the principal
point, and it was deemed especially desirable to widen the roads at
bends and turns. *
Mr. MONDELL. Then you think it is a mistake to attempt to confine
the roads to 18 feet in width ;
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is undoubtedly true, at least with regard to
the bends and turns. -
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; especially at bends and turns.
Mr. MoRDELL. There has been a constant agitation on the part of
automobile associations and automobile owners for the opening of
the park to motor-propelled vehicles. When do you think that can
be done safely 3 $
Col. BRETT. I do not think that can be done with absolute Safety
until there is another road for automobiles in the dangerous places
in the park. It certainly can not be done with Safety until there is
at least a checking system for automobiles. Automobiles must be
checked through that park so that all the animal-drawn vehicles can
so govern themselves as to keep off the roads during those hours.
Mr. MONDELL. Would it not be possible to devise a system under
which the automobiles could use the roads during certain hours?
Col. BRETT. I think so.
Mr. MoRDELL. Would it be practicable?
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; I think it would be.
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Mr. MoRDELL. As to Some of the roads, the coaches, at least, are
all moving at One time during the day? -
Col. BRETT. Very nearly. -
Mr. MoRDELL. And the automobiles could move at another time.
Of course, they would probably meet or pass private vehicles, but
that would not be as dangerous as meeting or passing the big
coaches? - w
Col. BRETT. No, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. There is a great deal of pressure being exerted to
have the park roads opened to automobiles during the coming sum-
mer, owing to the fact that a considerable number of people will be
going to the fair with machines and want to cross the continent, or go
a part of the way in machines, but they can not go by way of the
park unless they can go through. Don’t you think it would be pos-
sible to devise a scheme whereby they could get through at night or
at such time as not to interfere with the regular tourist travel or the
bulk of it? * -
Col. BRETT. I think it could probably be done, but I think this is
the poorest year we could select for the experiment.
Mr. MoRDELL. Owing to the increased travel?
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir. In discussing that with the engineer officer
and others, we agreed that it could be done year after next, but we
are afraid to attempt it next year on account of the heavy travel.
Mr. MoRDELL. You would hesitate to attempt it this coming
summer ?
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; on account of the heavy travel.
Mr. MoRDELL. Of course, that is the period to which the present
demand is directed, because those who want to go in their machines
across the country Want to go through the park. Then, those who
enter the park from one direction will want to go out at one of the
other entrances. That would be the case with practically all the
automobile owners. -
Has the work been progressing satisfactorily this year?
Col. BRETT. Very satisfactorily.
Mr. MoRDELL. I want to say for the record, or not, as the chair-
man may say, but I would like to have it in the record -
The CHAIRMAN. You are entitled to one speech in the record.
Mr. MoRDELL. I would like to say for the record that the testi-
mony of the people out there with regard to the character of the
work done this year is much more complimentary than it has ever
been in the past, and I might say that for the first time it has been
complimentary. -
Col. BRETT. Mr. Mondell, you must except from that Gen. Chit-
tenden’s régime, because he did some wonderful work. I stand with
you on your statement as to the past few years—that is there there
has been no year like the past year. I am in my fifth year there as
acting superintendent. * .
Mr. MoRDELL. I have no doubt that some of the criticisms in the
past have been imposed without sufficient warrant, but it has been
true of the past year that I have heard no criticism whatever of the
work. - -
Col. BRETT. It has been excellent in every particular.
Col. JADWIN. The estimated cost for the three approaches within
the park was $340,000. Of that we have had $252,000. That would
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leave $88,700, and we are asking for $80,000 of the $88,700 this year.
In the east forest reserve the estimated cost was $56,000. We have
had $30,000. We are asking for $20,000 this year. In the south
forest reserve the estimated cost was $48,000. We have had none
of that yet. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. You have not asked for it yet?
Col. JADWIN. No, sir; we have just asked for a little for main-
tenance.
Mr. GILLETT. I thought you got everything this year except
$8,000% …”
Col. JADWIN. That was for the three roads within the park. If
you give us the $80,000 it will be within $8,700 of completing the
three approaches within the park limits. If you give us the $20,000
it will be within $6,000 of completing the road in the east forest re-
serve. We have not asked especially for anything for the south road
except for a little maintenance and minor improvement.
Mr. MonDELL. You have asked for a sufficient sum to keep that
road in a usable condition? -
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir; to maintain the part we have and put
Some of the rest in equally good shape.
Mr. MonDELL. To what extent does this limitation to 18 feet
hamper you in the building of a road which you think is fully
adequate to meet the needs there?
Col. JADw1N. It was the opinion of the officer who reported on
it that the road should be 30 feet wide, not macadamized, but cleared
and graded for 30 feet so they could have that Space for passing.
If it is narrowed to 18 feet the teams and automobiles will frequently
have to come very close together so as to be particularly dangerous.
Mr. MoRDELL. How are you constructing it, that you can not
widen beyond that at all as to surfacing on the bends? -
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir. We already had some of it widened before
that restriction came in, particularly the Western approach. Since
its insertion in the law we are construing the 18 feet very strictly.
The CHAIRMAN. If you were permitted to make the bends a little
wider, would not that cover everything that is necessary? '.
Col. JADWIN. That is the principal thing.
Mr. MoRDELL. What you need is simply a wider space so that they
can turn out? -
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir. If that were modified in such a way that
we were limited in the surfacing to 18 feet, but were not deterred
from grading and shaping to the width found necessary, it would
help us very materially in the matter of the surfacing and would
not affect the cost very much. We would then make the roads a little
wider at the bends and where there are trees in the roads and clear
and shape them up. e
Mr. MoRDELL. If this language were modified so as to read “For
widening, and for surfacing to not to exceed 18 feet”?
Col. JADw1N. I think that would cover it, with our understanding
of the way you mean that. We could then clear and shape up to
the necessary width, but we could not spend money on surfacing for
more than 18 feet. If we understand that is the spirit of the com-
mittee. we can do it that way.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 421
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
CRATER LAKE NATIONAL PARK–ROADS AND BRIDGES.
[See p. 941.]
STATEMENT OF MR. H. L. BUELL, ASSISTANT ENGINEER.
The CHAIRMAN. “Crater Lake National Park, Oreg.: For con-
tinuation of a wagon road and the necessary bridges through the
park, together with a system of tanks and water-supply pipes for
sprinkling, in accordance with the recommendations in House Docu-
ment No. 328, Sixty-second Congress, second session,” etc. The esti-
mate is $100,000. What is the estimated cost of the scheme of roads
as set out in House Document 328?
Mr. BUELL. $707,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Of that amount you have had $160,000?
Mr. BUELL. $220,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you tell us what has been done and is being
done with the money heretofore appropriated 2
Mr. BUELL. From the beginning or during the past season?
The CHAIRMAN. Tell us from the beginning and then tell us for
the past season. w -
Mr. BUELL. Since the beginning we have cleared and graded
about 32 miles of road; 22 miles were cleared and graded this past
year. A very small amount of surfacing, largely for experimental
purposes, was done in 1913. No surfacing was done this past year.
The CHAIRMAN. The work already done has made possible what?
Mr. BUELL. It has provided a road, as shown on this map, from
what is called the Fort Klamath -entrance, beginning at the south
boundary of the park and extending up to the hotel at the rim of
the lake, and also about half a mile to the westward toward what is
called the Watchman, giving the tourist a half mile of road on the
west border of the rim. It has also provided an improvement of
the Medford approach. This last season about a mile was cleared
ănd graded on that approach at that point called the Corkscrew
ſindicating]. It has also provided an entrance from the Kirk side
of the park up to the rim of the lake and extending along the rim
about 3 miles to Sentinel Rock. It has provided a cross-road from
the Kirk entrance over to the Fort Klamath Road, so that tourists
can now reach the park with comparative ease by the Fort Klamath
entrance, by the Kirk entrance, and fairly well from the Medford
entrance. - •
The CHAIRMAN. What is it proposed to do with the $100,000 for
which you are asking? -
Mr. BUELL. It is desired first to improve the Medford entrance.
A large part of the tourist travel comes that way. Only 1 mile of
that road was improved this past year, as I stated.
The CHAIRMAN. How far is that?
Mr. BUELL. About 6 miles from the boundary of the park to the
connection with the Fort Klamath entrance.
The CHAIRMAN. How much would that cost? .
Mr. BUELL. I can not give you the details of that because the dis-
trict officer has not furnished them. It will be, I think, compara-
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tively light work, as the soil is understood to be of a nature which
can be easily moved. He submitted his estimate for road construc-
tion in a lump sum and would like to expend $26,000, which would
include the improvement of the Medford entrance; also the exten-
sion of the road along the rim of the lake up to the peak called the
Watchman, giving the tourists the advantage of seeing the lake from
that rim, and would also construct the Sun Notch Road, not to the
full width projected 16 feet—but about 10 feet wide. The latter
road would enable the tourist to get the beautiful view of the Phan-
tom Ship from Sun Notch.
The CHAIRMAN. That will cost $26,000?
Mr. BUELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the balance for?
Mr. BUELL. Principally for surfacing. Portions of the roads
are in fair condition naturally, having gravel or other good founda-
tion. Other portions are very soft and cut rapidly, making it difficult
for vehicles to pass. About 10 miles of the road ought to be sur-
faced this season. That amount of surfacing, together with the
necessary plant, will cost about $60,000. The plant will cost about
$20,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Just to surface? -
Mr. BUELL. Yes, sir. It will be necessary probably to put on bitu-
minous macadam. The district officer tried water-bound macadam,
but it ravels. He also tried bituminous macadam. That stands
fairly well, and will probably be satisfactory. The automobile
traffic there is heavy and increasing. He proposes to put surfacing
only on those sections of the road where it is absolutely needed. The
parts which have a good foundation need not be surfaced for the
present, and perhaps not for some time to come.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the other $14,000 for " -
Mr. BUELL. The balance will be expended for repairs to roads and
bridges necessary for getting in his supplies next spring, $3,000; for
buildings needed for storing plant and equipment, $2,000; for admin-
istration, engineering, etc., $9,000; which makes a total of $100,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles are included in these roads which
you have described, from Kirk entrance to Fort ISlamath entrance
and Medford entrance, going down to the Watchman and up to Sen-
tinel Rock—32 miles? -
Mr. BUELL. About 32 miles already completed.
The CHAIRMAN. You mean surfaced ?
Mr. BUELL. When I say “completed " I mean cleared and graded
so that vehicles can use it for the full width. No surfacing. Thirty-
two miles have been opened. §
The CHAIRMAN. You have had $220,000?
Mr. BUELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That will run the cost up to about $13,000 a mile?
Mr. BUELL. If the surfacing costs that amount. That is prob-
lematical. The district engineer is figuring on that question. It is
costly to get supplies in there.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 423
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
ENGINEER SCHOOL AND POST, wASHINGTON, D. C.
STATEMENT OF CAPT. ROBERT R. RALSTON, OFFICE OF THE
CHIEF OF ENGINEERS.
The CHAIRMAN. “Buildings, Engineer School and post, Washing-
ton, D. C.: For continuing construction of buildings for Engineer
School and post at Washington Barracks, D. C., to be immediately
available and remain available until expended and submitted, $50,-
000: Provided, That where the expenses of persons engaged in field
work or traveling on official business outside of the District of Co-
lumbia and away from their designated posts of duty are chargeable
to this appropriation, a per diem rate of $4 may be allowed in lieu
of subsistence.” What is this for Ž
Capt. RALSTON. Of this, $40,000 is to complete the west barracks
which at present is only about three-fourths completed. It is a two-
company barracks in One building, and the barracks for one company
is only half completed and is boarded up with tar paper and boards,
and it also includes the removal of a building which is in the way of
the extension of the barracks.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did this building cost?
Capt. RALSTON. The whole building, complete, will cost probably
about $145,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Where did you get the other money?
Capt. RALSTON. That was appropriated a good many years ago
under various appropriations, June 30, 1902; March 2, 1903; and
March 2, 1904, in the work of construction at Washington Barracks.
The last item was in the river and harbor bill.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the situation regarding the buildings
that you wish to complete? Are they occupied ?
Capt. RALSTON. This particular one is occupied; yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. This is merely to extend that building?
Capt. RALSTON. No, sir; this is to complete it. At the time the
building was started the Army General Hospital was located in a
building at Washington Barracks and they were building a new hos-
pital at Brightwood and until that building could be vacated by
the General Hospital we could not complete this barrack because it
meant the removal of the old Army hospital. Since that time they
have moved out to Brightwood and this old hospital building we
contemplate moving and using for a little, post dispensary, and then
we propose to extend the barracks so as to complete the building as
originally planned.
The CHAIRMAN. What particular work is to be done now %
Capt. RALSTON. I can perhaps show, you better on this plan. This
is the present building which occupies this site. We are contem-
plating moving that building, if it can be moved, over to this vicinity
here [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. This money is just för the purpose of extending
the building?
424 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Capt. RALSTON. Yes, sir; and making it symmetrical with this
other one. s - º
The CHAIRMAN. How much did the other barrack cost, complete?
Capt. RALSTON. I think about $184,000. There are some materials
on hand in the way of plumbing fittings and stone which was orig-
inally bought with the idea of using, but which they have never been
* to * because they have not had sufficient money to complete
the Work.
GOVERNORS ISLAND, N. Y., REPAIRS TO SEA WALL.
The CHAIRMAN. “For repairs to sea wall at Governors Island,
N. Y., to be immediately available and to remain available until
expended, $8,000.”
Capt. RALSTON. That is to cover some repairs which are very
urgent. The wall is faced with riprap along the Buttermilk and
Hudson River Channels and that has settled for 1,800 feet, exposing
the concrete base of the wall. What they want to do is to add more
riprap there so as to cover the concrete base of the wall for fear of
damage from wave action. -
The CHAIRMAN. On which side is the settling taking place?
Capt. RALSTON. The blue print shows the differences in level. It
is generally around that portion in there [indicating]. At this point
there was some damage done in a severe storm in January, 1913, and
over on this side some damage was done by an unknown Scow running
into the wall, but those are relatively small items.
The CHAIRMAN. How many acres are in this extension?
Capt. RALSTON. One hundred and one acres.
The CHAIRMAN. And this work is necessary to keep you from
losing your wall?
Capt. RALSTON. We regard it as economical, because if it is not
protected, of course, wave action may wash out everything under-
neath the fall and cause greater damage.
MAPs, WAR DEPARTMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. “Maps, War Department: For publication of
engineer maps for use in the War Department, inclusive of War
maps.” You had $7,500, and you are now asking $10,000.
Capt. RALSTON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for increasing the appro-
priation? e
Capt. RALSTON. We have had that estimate of $10,000 in for the
past three or four years. It is for continuing the publication of the
military maps of the Philippine Islands, which have been prepared
out there. The total estimated cost of that is between $25,000 and
$30,000, and of course it is only contemplated to do a certain portion
of it each year as the finished maps are received from the islands.
In addition, we print certain harbor charts for the Coast Artillery.
They require certain very accurate maps of the harbors in connection
with their fire control and we do other miscellaneous publication for
the War Department from time to time in the way of maps of
maneuver grounds and things of that sort.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 425
The CHAIRMAN. You only spend $750 a year in the Philippines.
Capt. RALSTON. That is for the actual reproduction in the Philip-
pines. We do the work of printing the maps of the Philippine sur-
vey in the United States at the printing establishment of the Great
Lakes survey in Detroit. The work is very much like the Geological
Survey maps.
Mr. GILLETT. How nearly finished is it?
Capt. RALSTON. I should say it is a little over half finished now. .
The CHAIRMAN. And out of this appropriation you reproduce
maps already printed?
Capt. RALSTON. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. How much of this appropriation would you say was
for the Philippines?
Capt. RALSTON. About $5,000.
Mr. GILLETT. About half of it? .
Capt. RALSTON. A little over half of it; perhaps three-fourths of it.
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1915.
BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS IN AND AROUND WASH-
| INGTON. §
STATEMENT OF COL. WILLIAM W. HARTS, UNITED STATES ARMY,
OFFICER IN CHARGE.
IMPROVIEMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF GROUNDS SOUTH OF EXECUTIVE
MANSION.
The CHAIRMAN. The first item in which you are interested, Colonel,
is “For improvement and maintenance of grounds South of Execu-
tive Mansion,” $4,000. Is this within the fence?
Col. HARTS. No, sir. There is another appropriation for that
part within the fence. This is the 51-acre tract known as the White
Lot, and which lies between Fifteenth and Seventeenth Streets. It
is just south of the fence.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you spend all of the appropriation last year?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; there was no balance left. *.
GREENEIOUSES AND N URSERY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For ordinary care of green-
houses and nursery,” $2,000. Are these the White House green-
houses?
Col. HARTs. No, sir; these are the greenhouses that belong to the
propagation gardens for the parks. There is another appropriation
for the White House.
REPAIR AND RECONSTRUCTION OF GREEN HOUSES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For repair and reconstruction
of the greenhouses at the nursery,” $3,000. Do you spend these sums
each year? g
426 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is the nursery :
Col. HARTS. Just across the street west from the old Bureau of
Printing and Engraving.
Mr. GILLETT. The greenhouses just above the plateau?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir.
BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING (NEW), WALKS AND CURBs.
i
[See pp. 87, 137.]
Mr. MONDELL. The other day there was some discussion before the
committee of the condition of the sidewalk in front of the Bureau of
Engraving and Printing, just opposite these greenhouses of which
you speak? ~ *
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. o
Mr. MoRDELL. That sidewalk is below the level of the street?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. Have you given any attention to the situation?
Col. HARTS. I went into that not long ago and my recollection is
that that street is to be regraded as soon as the old bureau is removed.
The old building was to have been taken out on the completion of
the new building, but it has now been filled with offices.
Mr. MoRDELL. You will drop that street?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. So as to get it below the sidewalk in front of the
bureau? <
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. The sidewalk is on the new grade and the
street is on the old grade. The idea is to regrade that street from
the Monument Grounds at the top of the hill down to the lower end
near the river road, so there will be a new and easier grade.
Another thing, when the old building comes out all those gardens
will come out.
The CHAIRMAN. We have just spent $75,000 in putting that build-
ing in condition.
Col. HARTs. I did not know about that.
Mr. MoRDELL. This grading could be done without having to re-
move the old bureau? -
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. I do not know just what is contemplated in
regard to the building.
Mr. GILLETT. What street is that—Fourteenth Street?
Col. HARTs. No; I think it is Fifteenth Street. It is the one that
runs along the opposite side of the bureau from Fourteenth Street. .
Mr. MondELL. It is a little above the sidewalk there?
Col. FIARTs. Yes, sir; there is a hump in the street.
Mr. MoR DELL. That grading would not interfere with the
building?
Col. HARTs. No; that could be graded at any time.
CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR OF FENCES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For construction and repair of
post-and-chain fences,” etc., $18,550. Did you have any unexpended
balance in this appropriation'
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 427
Col. HARTs. No, sir. &
The CHAIRMAN. This is the general maintenance item?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
\
IMPROVEMENT, CARE, AND MAINTENANCE OF RESERVATIONs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For improvement, care, and
maintenance of various reservations,” etc., $30,000. Did you have
any unexpended balance last year?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; $66,76. *
The CHAIRMAN. What is this money used for ? -
Col. HARTS. This money is used for all the parks not mentioned.
by name. We have 353 parks to care for, all the little parks, and
triangles, and the Small reservations in the middle of the streets.
SMITHSONIAN GROUNDS—JUDICIARY PARK–WALKS IN RESERVATIONs—
BROKEN-STONE ROAD COVERING—CURBING, ETC., FOR PARK ROADS.
The CHAIRMAN. The estimate for the improvement, care, and main-
tenance of Smithsonian grounds is $3,000, and the current appro-
priation is $3,000. \ ,
For the improvement and maintenance of Judiciary Park you
ask $2,500, and the current appropriation is $2,500.
For laying cement and other Walks in various other reservations
you ask $2,000, and the current appropriation is $2,000.
For broken-stone road covering for parks you ask $3,500, and the
current appropriation is $3,500. t -
For curbing, coping, and flagging for park roads and walks you
ask $2,000, and the current appropriation is $2,000.
These are the sums that are expended annually for this particular
character of work and you have no money left over each year?
Col. HARTS. I can give you the exact balances, but most of those
appropriations have been used completely. For the Smithsonian
grounds the unexpended balance is $2.98; for Judiciary Park the
unexpended balance is $7; for laying cement walks, etc., there was
nothing left over. The appropriation for broken-stone road cover-
ing for parks was entirely used; for curbing, coping, etc., the un-
expended balance is $19.80, and under the next item, for care and
maintenance of Potomac Park, the unexpended balance is $4.74.
FOTOMAC PARK WEST OF RAILROAD, GRADING, SEEDING, ROADS, PATHS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For grading, soiling, seeding,
and planting that portion of Potomac Park west of the railroad em-
bankment, and constructing roads and paths.” The estimate is
$35,000 and the current appropriation is $35,000. What are you
doing there this year?
Col. HARTs. Here [indicating] is a chart showing the portion of
Potomac Park referred to.
The CHAIRMAN. You have had $170,000 for that.
Col. HARTs. We have finished all of that portion [indicating],
We have finished all of this along here [indicating], and we are now
wanting to finish that side [indicating] with the appropriation now
asked for. -
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The CHAIRMAN. This is to finish what?
Col. HARTS. Here is the part [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want to do there?
Col. HARTs. We have finished all of this you see in green on this
side ſindicating], and we have finished all of this [indicating], and
We want to finish up that side there indicating] with the money we
are now asking for.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is that?
Col. HARTS. This is the Lincoln Memorial here and here is the
river. Here ſindicating] is the Tidal Basin. Here [indicating] is
the Lincoln Memorial and the Monument, and there is the part
[indicating] that is completed, and here [indicating] is also a part
that is completed. We now want to finish this part [indicating],
in through here.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want to do there?
Col. HARTs. We want to put in trees and shrubs and carry out this
same scheme that we have on the other side there [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. Is all of that graded?
Col. HARTs. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And seeded?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; all of that is seeded. It is not all graded,
but except for that everything is ready for the trees.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you want this money for?
Col. HARTs. To plant this area here [indicating].
Mr. GILLETT. To plant it with what? a'
Col. HARTs. With trees. This is the appropriation that has been
carried for several years as a part of the expenditure for developing
this entire park west of the embankment.
Mr. GILLETT. Where are those three golf holes you spoke about?
Col. HARTs. One is right here [indicating], one is right here [indi-
cating], and the other is about here [indicating].
Mr. SHERLEy. Is it contemplated to put a golf course there?
Col. HARTs. No, sir.
OTLING MACADAM ROADS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For oiling or otherwise treat-
ing macadam roads, $4,000.” The current appropriation is $4,000,
This is to keep the roads in the park west of the embankment in good
shape?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. o - - -
The CHAIRMAN. What has been your experience with the oiling of
these roads? - -
Col. HARTs. It has been very satisfactory. We have been resur-
facing our roads with oil and broken stone. There is another ap-
propriation that is used for broken stone; We put the oil on in
iayérs and cover it with stone chips. We found that that had to be
done about once a year until last year, but now we are able to Cºry
a road over two seasons. We can make it last two seasons. ... This
is the only way in which you can keep park roads in fine condition;
that is, by every year or two, depending Qn the materials used, re-
surfacing the roads with oil, chips, and broken stone. ...,
The Cºnsºn. You have the roads in very good condition now."
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
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POTOMAC PARIS EAST OF THE RAILROAD–ROADWAY AROUND.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For completing a permanent
road around the entire river and harbor front of the portion of Po-
tomac Park east of the railroad embankment, $15,000.” The cur-
rent appropriation is $25,000. The road is now open all the way
around there? -
Col. HART. Yes, sir. r
The CHAIRMAN. And there remains to be surfaced how much road?
Col. HARTs. Thirty-two hundred feet. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is it as long a stretch as that?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; it is about three-fifths of a mile.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is the road all around there?
Col. HARTS. It is a mile and a half to the point.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why is it closed at night?
Col. HARTS. We have no lights down there. -
Mr. Giºr. Will it cost you $25,000 to build that three-fifths of
a mile?
Col. HARTs. No, sir; $15,000. The cost is about $25,000 per mile.
The road is 30 feet wide and has wide, brick gutters on each side
and underdrainage at every 100 feet.
I would also like to ask about the extension of that roadway around
the point. Fourteen hundred feet of new roadway would be re-
quired, and we have not the funds with which that work could be
done, except from this $15,000 we are asking for the remainder of the
present road. Unless some balance is left out of that we would not
be able to do the work. A
The CHAIRMAN. You can not divert that.
Col. HARTS. I do not want to take any of that money for that pur-
pose. We might build a cheaper road; for instance, we might build
a cinder road. -
The CHAIRMAN. If you can not build a road you might have the
brush cut off. - *
Col. HARTS. There was a road graded down through there once
and there would not be much grading required.
PotoMAC PARK EAST or RAILROAD, CARE AND IMPROVEMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For care and improvement of
the portion of Potomac Park east of the railroad embankment,
$10,000.” The current appropriation is $10,000. What have you
done so far on that part?
Col. HARTS. We have graded and seeded during the past year the
part running down here [indicating]. That part [indicating] is all
ready now—at least So far as grading is concerned, and we have put
rye and blue grass seed in here on this part [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. Up by the embankment?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; and running pretty well down. It extends in
the neighborhood of, I should say offhand, 1,500 feet. We have also
carried the grading down on this side [indicating] for a short dis-
tance. We have graded all along here [indicating] clear up to the
point. We put in a lot of Japanese cherry trees along there that
were turned over to us by the Emperor of Japan a few years ago.
They were put in along the side of the road. •
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The CHAIRMAN. Are they hardy?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. The only trouble we have had with them is
from the scale.
º GILLETT. I thought it affected them so that you could not use
them :
Col. HARTS. They were all destroyed at one time, and then a new
lot was sent from Japan. These trees are beginning to show scale,
and I do not know whether we will be able to save them or not.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you propose to do now %
Col. HARTS. We want to continue this grading beyond the point
where it is now finished. We also want to grade along this side of
the road ſindicating] and continue the planting on that side of the
road [indicating], along the river, and continue the planting of
cherry trees on that side also.
Mr. GILLETT. What about the center?
Col. HARTs. We have not gotten to that.
Mr. GILLETT. What are those two figures [indicating] }
Col. HARTs. This is a study we are working up. This [indicating]
is a football field, and this [indicating] is a sort of bathing arrange-
ment that we have since abandoned. We want some sort of a field
house here for the golf course. We want to develop this golf course
as soon as we can get the plans in shape. We will probably have
something in the next estimates for this golf course and field house.
The CHAIRMAN. You are not estimating this year anything for the
development of this part east of the embankment so as to utilize it
for athletic purposes?
Col. HARTs. No, sir.
PLACING AND MAINTAINING PORTIONS OF PARIKS FOR OUTDOOR SPORTS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For placing and maintaining
special portions of the parks in condition for outdoor sports,” and
the appropriation is $10,000, and you are asking for $10,000. What
did you do with that money?
Col. HARTs. We have now 12 baseball diamonds that we are taking
care of and 19 tennis courts that have to be taken care of; I mean
the courts in Potomac Park. . We maintained 10 tennis courts during
the year; that is, previous to the construction of the newest 9. I
added 9 in October. We have a few others in the city. We want to
put 2 more in Montrose Park. We are constructing 4 baseball dia-
monds in the vicinity of the Monument Grounds, grading and getting
them ready for use in the spring. We intend to place a fence around
these.
The CHAIRMAN. How many did you have before?
Col. HARTS. Twelve. f
The CHAIRMAN. And four new ones?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; the four new ones will take the place of
the three old ones. I want to put two diamonds on this area east
of the embankment ſindicating] and see whether there is any de-
mand for this vicinity. s
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any record of the number of persons
using the baseball diamonds and the tennis courts? -
Col. HARTs. I keep very close track of that in order to prevent
people from lapping over in each other's allotted time.
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The CHAIRMAN. Please put that statement in the record.
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
(The statement submitted by Col. Harts follows:)
OUTDOOR SPORTS.
DATA RELATIVE TO THE USE OF THE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN THE
PUBLIC GROUNDS.
TENNIS.
Ten courts in Potomac Park (19 after October 1, 1914),
One court in Montrose Park.
An average of 100 permits issued per month from April to November.
Average number of individual players per month, 600, exclusive of permits
to associations such as the Young Women’s Christian Association, the Young
Women’s Hebrew Association, the girls of the Central High School, the girls
of the Western High School, the girls of the McKinley Manual Training School,
the boys Of the Central High School, the Young Men's Hebrew Association, and
the Post Office Department Tennis Association.
Average number of permits issued for Montrose Park, 25 per month ; average
number of players, Over 100.
The demand for all Of these CourtS is very heavy, more than can be com-
plied with. Applicants can be given only a portion of the time requested by
them.
BASEBALL.
Twelve diamonds: 4 on Ellipse; 8 on Monument Grounds.
An average of 30 permits per month issued from April to September. This
includes permits to Departmental League, 8 teams; Treasury League, 8 teams;
Inte, bureau I.eague. 8 teams; boys' leagues of 3 to 6 teams; independent
teams; boys of the Young Men's Christian Association ; match games between
special teams of business men ; teams of Government departments; Members
and employes of Congress, and others.
Average number of players per month affected, probably 800.
The diamonds are always occupied, and all demands can not be Supplied.
GOLF.
One 3-hole practice course in Potomac Park. * -
There are usually about 25 permits outstanding for the use of this Course.
While very limited, it seems to be very popular with those desiring opportunity
for practice, and by those who have no other place to play. -
FOOTBALL.
There are no football fields in the public groundS.
Permits have been issued to the Y. M. C. A. and to the boys of the high Schools
to use portions of Potomac Park for practice during the fall of the year.
Pernits have also been issued to groups of small boys to engage in football
practice in some of the larger parks throughout the City.
These privileges have been enjoyed by probably 200 persons per month, from
September to November. *
CROQUET.
One court in Montrose Park. -
This has been used by a few persons, but not to a very great eXtent.
Permits have been issued to play croquet on the lawns of one or two of the
larger parkS.
- RUNNING.
No track available. sº
Permits have been requested for the use of running tracks, but there are no
facilities in the parks for this purpose. Permits have been issued in a few in-
stances for runners to train in certain portions of Potomac Park.
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POLO.
Two polo fields are equipped and maintained in Potomac Park.
Six games per month, on an average, are played from May to October.
In addition to the regular games, the fields are used for practice by the indi-
vidual players. º
SIKATING.
Ice field on the Tidal Reservoir, Potomac Park.
Whenever the condition of the ice on this reservoir permits, large areas of
the ice are cleared of Snow for the benefit of skaters. Dangerous places are
marked by Signals and barricaded. Police protection and Supervision are also
provided.
An average of 2,000 persons per day enjoy this recreation.
MTUS I C.
Band concerts are held in the parks throughout the city every evening of the
week, except Sunday, from June 1 to September 30.
These concerts are attended by an average of 1,500 persons.
PLAYGIROUNDS.
'Three fully equipped playgroundS : 1 in Garfield Park; 1 in reservation 126
(Virginia Avenue SE., between Ninth and Eleventh); 1 in Willow Tree Alley.
These playgrounds were constructed and are maintained by the Office of Pub-
lic Buildings and Grounds. The use of them is supervised by the Department
of Playgrounds, IDistrict of Columbia, under permit issued by the Office of
Public Buildings and Grounds. º
It is to be noted that in addition to those actually engaged in the foregoing
recreations, there are large numbers of perSons who attend these various activi-
ties as spectators, who are as much interested in them as are the actual players.
Col. HARTS. We have to issue permits for every one of the differ-
ent hours so there is no conflict.
The CHAIRMAN. Permits for a certain time?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. You spoke of putting a fence around the baseball
diamonds down in Potomac Park. What sort of a fence would
that be?
Col. HARTs. An iron pipe fence, just enough to keep people from
running across it. We want to put the diamonds in very good con-
dition and we do not want people running across that piece of
ground.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you think that is necessary?
Col. HARTS. I think some sort of a fence is necessary. We could
try it for a season, if you think it better. It is just a suggestion.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why would not wickets do?
Col. HARTs. Because the people jump over them. They do for
small parks, but when there is a baseball game going on We Want to
have some way of controlling trespass. We have an idea that we
would like to put in some seats opposite each home plate and put in a
backstop. That would keep other people away from the people who
were playing baseball.
Mr. SHERLEY. You do not mean on the White Lot?
Col. HARTs. No, sir. It is right in there. There ſindicating] is
the old bathing beach. We want to put in four diamonds there [in-
dicating]. We have a number of diamonds here [indicating]. We
have a diamond here [indicating] and here [indicating] and here
findicating]. There is nothing in here [indicating]. This is just
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newly graded, and seeded and ready for use in the spring. That is
what I want to fence. -
The CHAIRMAN. Are these baseball diamonds and tennis courts
used by any particular class of people?
Col. HARTs. No, sir; the first person that comes for a special day
we give him a permit.
The CHAIRMAN. In your experience is the use universal or re-
stricted 3 t
Col. HARTs. The use of the baseball diamonds is confined to two
general classes, one the departmental employees, and the other the
schoolboys, the young boys, who get up their nines and Want to come
down there for a contest. - -
The CHAIRMAN. I do not mean whether you draw any distinction,
but whether you find that the people who use them are what you
might call a restricted class, or whether they are used universally
Col. HARTs. I think the tennis courts are universally used, but the
baseball diamonds are used more by the nines gotten up by the de-
partmental clerks and also the young Schoolboys.
The CHAIRMAN. Organized leagues?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. We have another diamond which I should
include on the piece of property turned over to us by the previous
act, and one right across from the city pumping station.
MERIDIAN HILL PARIC, IMPROVEMENT OF.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For continuing the improve-
ment of Meridian Hill Park in accordance with plans prepared in
the office of Public Buildings and Grounds, and for its care and
maintenance, $25,000.” What have you done so far?
Col. HARTS. We have started the excavation for the present wall.
We have now plans and specifications and are just about to invite
bids.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is this park?
Col. HARTs. On Sixteenth Street.
Mr. GILLETT. And where is the wall?
Col. HARTs. On Sixteenth Street.
Mr. GILLETT. That will be a considerable wall?
Col. HARTS. Eight or nine feet high; a low wall.
Mº, GILLETT. And from the top of the wall will the land slope
back?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. Back of that there will be a very much
higher wall.
Mr. GILLETT. That will restrict the size of the park very much?
Col. HARTs. It is not a very great distance back. We had a high
wall on the street side at one time, but the architects objected; they
said it was too big a thing to put on the street. It will have to be
probably 25 or 30 feet high and should be put back. -
The CHAIRMAN. The wall you contemplate constructing now is a
wall to prevent that hill washing down? --
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. A retaining wall?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
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Mr. MoRDELL. Will that wall be of a uniform height the entire
distance? *3.
Col. HARTS. No, sir; it will be about 30 fet high and stepped down.
The CHAIRMAN. How much will the wall cost? -
Col. ‘HARTS. The Sixteenth Street side, about 1,400 feet, about
$22,000, and the excavation, together with the cost of inspection, will
cost about the rest of the present appropriation. The next wall will
be more expensive, because it will be much higher, the inside wall.
Mr. MONDELL. The outer wall will be completed with the appro-
priation you have?
Col. HARTS. Some of that work we do not expect to complete, but
º wall will be completed nearly the full length, not quite on one
SI C162.
Mr. SHERLEY. Have any plans been determined upon for the treat-
ment of that park? -
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHIERLEY. In a general Way, what are they
Col. HARTS. This is Sixteenth Street here [indicating]. The high
brow of the hill is right along there [indicating]. This is north
|indicating] running out Sixteenth Street. This [indicating] is
toward the city. This [indicating] is Fifteenth Street.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the Henderson house?
Col. HARTs. Right about there [indicating]. I think it is in that
block.
The CHAIRMAN. The brow of the hill is north?
Col. HARTS. It is right about there [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. North of the Henderson house?
Col. HARTs. The Henderson house is right on the hill, if I remem-
ber correctly. There is a high clay bluff right across from the Hen-
derson house. This [indicating] is the high part right across there.
You can stand on that hill and look all over the city. Right in there
is where we want to maintain the flat ground so people can still get
that view. That requires a concrete Wall along there [indicating],
and running up there [indicating]. We will finish this wall from
here [indicating] down to there [indicating] with the present ap-
propriation, the low wall.
The CHAIRMAN. That wall will prevent the hill from sliding down
into Sixteenth Street?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; the wall we are building now. We would
like to hold up the rest of the hill with this wall along here [indi-
cating]. That is what we are asking for. -
The CHAIRMAN. You have money enough for the other wall?
Col. HARTs. We are putting in that wall with the money appro-
priated last year. That work will be begun in the course of the next
90 days.
T. CHAIRMAN. How high will that wall be?
Col. HARTs. This wall [indicating] will be lower here [indicating]
than here [indicating]. At the highest point it will probably be 30
feet. -
The CHAIRMAN. From the street?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; from the street.
Mr. MondELL. What will be the height of the wall?
Col. HARTs. I suppose 30 to 32 feet at the highest place. It will
grow lower as one goes up the hill.
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Mr. GILLETT. The lower wall is how high”
Col. HARTS. It waries from about 7 to 9 feet.
Mr. GILLETT. What material is the wall?
Col. HARTS. Concrete.
Mr. GILLETT. What is that beautiful picture?
º HARTS. This is the plan that seems to have given us the best
results. g
Mr. GILLETT. Is that the landscape gardening?
Col. HARTs. No, sir. We want to have a fountain in the form of
a large shell With Water pouring out, to come under there tumbling
down the hill on a series of little dams to give you the idea of a
Cascade.
Mr. SHERLEY. What will it cost 3
Col. HARTs. The concrete wall will cost about $90,000.
Mr. SHERLEY. The whole plan?
Col. HARTs. Probably $300,000. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Does this plan contemplate the acceptance of the
Buchanan fund?
Col. HARTs. That is what we had in view. If the Buchanan fund
was available it would put in all this lower part. That would make
about $100,000 available. If it comes to us it will reduce the total
amount by a corresponding sum. There is a site for some monu-
ment which we thought possibly might be the Buchanan monument.
Mr. MoRDELL. The acceptance of that sum would be predicated
upon the use of a part of it for the erection of a monument to ex-
President Buchanan at the point you have indicated?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; that would mean two things—first, that the
trustees would favor this site, and that Congress would permit it.
Mr. MondELL. Who is the present custodian of the fund?
Col. HARTs. Mr. Lawson Riggs, of Baltimore, is the sole trus-
tee; the others have died.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is known as what fund?
Col. HARTs. The Harriet Lane J ohnston, fund.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1915.
MONTROSE PARK, IMPROVEMENT OF.
The CHAIRMAN. For continuing the improvement of Montrose
Park, and for its care and maintenance, you are asking $10,000?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; instead of the usual amount of $5,000. This
is a new park.
The CHAIRMAN. In the sense that it is newly purchased; but it was
somewhat of a park in its raw state.
Col. HARTs. Yes; it was a beautiful piece of property. All those
beautiful oaks could not be excelled in any park. They are the most
beautiful trees in Georgetown. We are planting a lot of rhododen-
drons here and here [indicating on sketch and evergreens here, and
we want to continue that planting.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the road to Rock Creek Park?
Col. HARTs. Over here [indicating]. We are trying to maintain
the lines of the old estate in a measure. We have kept this rope-
walk, and we want to put a hedge along here [indicating]. We have
kept the old rose garden and we want to put in a little hedge here
436 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
and we also want to elaborate the entrance. The entrance at present
is an old tumble-down house and is very ugly. We want to develop
it into something better looking, so that we want something more than
the usual maintenance amount of money. t
The CHAIRMAN. Just what is it you want to do?
Col. HARTS. We want to improve this entrance. The old house in
here [indicating] was pulled down and it has left things in pretty
raw shape for an entrance, and we want to improve that.
The CHAIRMAN. You did not destroy that fine old house?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; we pulled it down.
Mr. GILLETT. It was a brick house, was it not ?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; in very bad shape. We made an estimate that
it would cost over $7,000 to put a roof on it and put it in ordinarily
good condition, and we felt we could spend that money very much
better than to restore that building. It would have probably cost
more than that to have restored the house, probably three or four
thousand dollars more, and we thought we could use that money a
good deal better by improving the entrance rather than trying to
improve the old building.
Mr. GILLETT. How much did we pay for that park?
Col. HARTS. I do not remember, sir. That was before I came here.
The CHAIRMAN. I think the amount was $110,000. How many
acres are in that park?
Col. HARTs. Fifteen and sixty-nine one-hundredths acres.
POTOMAC PARK WEST OF RAILROAD, SHELTERS IN.
Col. HARTs. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the privilege of
putting in the word “shelters” in the appropriation for planting in
Potomac Park, that was the appropriation of $35,000 for Potomac
Park west of the embankments.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of shelters are these to be?
Col. HARTs. We want to put up a building that can be used by
the public in case of rains and can be used by the people who use the
park for recreation, for tennis and any other purposes that they are
down there for. This is a sketch showing about what we want to
put in. *
The CHAIRMAN. What will it cost?
Col. HARTs. About $10,000. It will delay our planting somewhat,
but at the same time there is a demand for it and a necessity for it.
The CHAIRMAN. Where will it be placed ?
Col. HARRIs. It will be placed right in here, Mr. Chairman [indi-
cating], between the 10 tennis courts on that side, and the 9 tennis
courts on this side, right along the continuation of Eighteenth Street.
JUDICIARY PARK, ROADS, WALKS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for Judiciary Park. I thought
we fixed that up last year.
Col. HARTs. No, sir; that was not included.
The CHAIRMAN. We went all over it last year?
Col. HARTs. It was in the bill a year ago, Mr. Chairman, but no
appropriation was made.
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OLD HIGH-SERVICE RESERVOIR, WISCONSIN AVENUE AND R STREET.
The CHAIRMAN.
For improving the site of the old high-Service reservoir, at the southeast
Colºner of Wisconsin Avenue and R Street NW., which is hereby made a
partſ of the park system of the District of Columbia, under the Chief of
Engineers, United States Army, $5,000.
Col. HARTS. This is a part of the old water system which was under
the charge of the Chief of Engineers. It is not now a part of the
park system, and it is not subject to the police control and to the
other regulations that govern the parks. We want to have it in-
cluded in the park system. We also want some money to put in
Walks and steps so people can get the benefit of the park as a recrea-
tion point, and we also want to improve its appearance.
The CHAIRMAN. How large an area is it?
} º HARTS. It is about three-quarters of an acre, I should say off-
12.Il Ci. -
GARFIELD PARIX—N EWV LOTIGE.
The CHAIRMAN., “For new lodge in Garfield Park, $3,500.”
Col, HARTS. This lodge is to replace a little tumble-down frame
building that has been there for a number of years.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is Garfield Park?
Col. HARTS. It is southeast of the power house for the Capitol.
Here is a sketch of what we want to put in. It will be similar to
those we have already built but not quite so large; $3,500 is the
estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. What have you there now %
Col. HARTs. A little wooden building of a temporary nature and it
is in very bad shape. This is used a great deal by children. There
is a playground right alongside and it is necessary for the children
to have some place to go, and the present building there is in very bad
shape.
RAWI,INS PATRIK
FENCE. COPING, waſ,Ks, PLANTING, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. “For replacing the post and chain fence around
Rawlins Park with a cement coping and for rearranging the walks
and improving the planting, $3,000.”
Col. HARTs. This is the park directly across the street from the
site of the new building for the Interior Department just about to
be built, and the Secretary of the Interior asked me to improve that
park and I promised to put an estimate in the bill to cover the new
walks. The park is in very bad shape.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is that park?
Col. HARTS. At the end of New York Avenue, just beyond the new
Navy Building. It is on E Street.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the Geological Survey Building?
Col. HARTs. Right opposite, in square 143.
The CHAIRMAN. About what street is that?
Col. HARTs. That is between Eighteenth and Nineteenth Streets
and the building is between E and F.
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FETWORTH –IMPROVEMENT OF TRIANGLES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For improving seven small triangles, $5,000.”
Col. HARTS. This is for some triangles in Petworth. This is a
region out to the west of Soldier's Home and it has been built up
with a very good class of buildings occupied by people of moderate
means, and it is full of children. We have seven triangles, shown by
these red spots on the sketch, unimproved, and we would like to im-
prove them.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by “unimproved ’’? -
Col. HARTs. They are simply open spaces and there is nothing be-
ing done to them at all. They are not being taken care of in any
sense. They have sidewalks and curbs, but they have not been put in
any shape to be used.
The CHAIRMAN. They are used, I suppose, as playgrounds, but
they are not ornamental?
Col. HARTs. They are not ornamental and they are too small to do
much playing on unless We can prepare them in some Way. We Want
to put a sandpile in one of them for children. We have another one
with a circle with seats around it, and the other one is too small to
do anything with except to put seats along the center line.
POTOMAC PARK–NEW BOATTIOUSE, BATHING BEACH.
[See p. 440.]
The CHAIRMAN. “For replacing the old boathouse at the foot of
Seventeenth Street in Potomac Park with a new fireproof structure,
$20,000.” -
Col. HARTs. That is a part of the project for boating and swim-
ming for the Tidal Basin. The provision for the boathouse was to
construct a boathouse to take the place of the present unsightly
frame building that has been there for a good many years.
The CHAIRMAN. That is on the basinº -
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. The idea, Mr. Chairman, is to build this
part for the use of boats with the idea that some day the remainder
for swimming will be added to it to make a unit for the use of this
basin by boating and swimming both. We wanted to get this started
in order to replace the present boathouse.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a building will it be?
Col. HARTS. About 50 feet square. This building contemplates
hollow-tile construction with a tile roof, fireproof.
WEST POTOMAC PATR-MOVING OUT SEA WALL ON RIVER SIDE, EASBYs
POINT SEWER.
The CHAIRMAN. “For moving out the sea wall on the river side of
West Potomac Park, $25,000.”
Col. HARTs. The Government in improving the channel to the
north of the park system has built a sea wall that is brought down
to a point here ſindicating on map.].
The CHAIRMAN. What street is that?
Col. HARTS. That is about Twenty-sixth Street. This is B Street
running through here, and here is the present river drive, and this is
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opposite the brewery up here, and this is the extension of the park
that runs up almost to the brewery [indicating]. The Government
has brought down this sea wall along the bulkhead line and our
present wall goes along this red line. The Government bulkhead
line and the Government wall comes down here now and stops at
what is known as Easbys Point, where the city sewer ends. We
want to continue that wall for about 2,000 feet so as to have this line
rectified and avoid the eddy that will occur in here and cause bad
sediment and also probably an unhealthy condition. Therefore we
want to continue this Easbys Point sewer, which will cost $15,000,
out to the new line, and also continue this bulkhead line about 200
feet farther into the river. The gain in that is considerable in area.
We will gain about 5 acres of ground, which is worth about
$12,000 an acre, at the rate of 30 cents a foot, which we have esti-
mated, so that we will gain about $60,000 in ground, but the main
thing is to continue this line already constructed.
The CHAIRMAN. That item and the item for extending the Easby's
Point sewer necessarily go together ? .
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. I Ought to say, too, that this matter was
taken up between myself and the Chief of Engineers about a year
ago, with the hope I could have this done out of the funds they had
available for the improvement of the channel, but they told me that
the channel had been improved at this point already and that there
was no hope of having this work done out of that appropriation, and
said it ought to be included in the estimates for this year for park
work. -
CENTER PARKING, PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, SECOND AND SEVENTEENTH
STREETS SOUTFIEAST.
The CHAIRMAN. “For planting the center parking in Pennsyl-
vania Avenue, between Second and Seventeenth Streets southeast,
$5,000.” What is the matter with this parking?
Col. HARTs. It is in pretty bad shape and it is very difficult to
take care of it. This is the parking system that runs east from the
Capitol down to the river, where the street car line runs between
double rows of trees. People have crossed there so much that it is
worn threadbare and we were going to pºut in a series of small hedges
running along its full length. During last autumn we put in three
different experimental sections, one with festoons of vines imitating
one of the foreign methods of improving corresponding areas, and
then we tried some hedges farther out in this neighborhood, so that
at the end of next summer we will know which is the cheapest to
maintain and the best one to keep. This mātter has been com-
plained of very bitterly ever since I have been in office.
The CHAIRMAN. It has always looked pretty Well to me.
Col. HARTs. The trees are splendid but the ground between the
trees has never been kept up and we have been trying everything
to keep it up. We have tried putting in paths and concrete walks
and various other things. I think if you should see what we have
done you would agree with us that we ought to continue it. This is
Maryland Avenue, where the city is now doing the same kind of
center parking [indicating]. They are parking the center, I think,
440 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
partly to avoid paving expenses, and they have turned it over to us,
about a mile of it, which we are going to improve as far as we can
this coming Spring. -
Mr. SHERLEY. They have turned it over to you?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. -
Mr. SHERLEY. You mean by that the District is avoiding the cost
and putting it upon the Government of the United States?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; the cost of maintenance, not the cost of con.
struction. They have no funds out of which they can maintain this
parking. This is all provided by law and they can transfer over to
the park System any parts of the streets not needed for street pur-
poses. -
Mr. SHIERLEY. But they pay part of the expense?
Col. HARTS. They pay half of all these expenses.
I’OTC) MIAC I’ARIX NEW BOAT II OUSE.
[See p. 438.
§
Mr. S11 ERLEY. Colonel, what arrangement is there now and what
is contemplated as to the use of this boathouse? Is it rented to a
lessee? -
Col. HARTS. The present boathouse is leased to a man who is re-
stricted in his charges to the public, but all the boats and skates and
bathing suits are his property. The place is leased to him for three
years, from March, 1914. I think under the present lease he pays
$500. He is also privileged to sell cakes and soft drinks and cigars
and gasoline and oil for automobiles, and so on. But we will put on
more restrictions in case of another boathouse being constructed to
protect the people even more than in this case, and probably the best
way would be to lease the boathouse under certain restrictions of
that kind. - -
Mr. SHIERLEY. I spoke to you some time ago about the facilities for
getting out of the basin on to the Potomac. What arrangements
exist or are contemplated or is it contemplated shall exist for the
mooring of small gasoline boats in the basin, and is anything of that
kind contemplated in connection with this boathouse?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; under the present rules for two hours in the
(lay we have a man at the inlet bridge who will open the gates to
anybody who applies. We will extend that to any length of time
that is necessary as soon as there is any demand for it from the
boating people. We now pass boats from the river into the basin at
the two specified hours, and if there are enough boats to make it de-
sirable we can extend those hours to anything that is needed.
Mr. SHERLEY. What I wanted to know about particularly was the
facilities for mooring boats in the basin so that men will keep them
there and then be able to go from there out into the river; whether
that is contemplated. -
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; anybody can moor his boat in that basin
anywhere he wants to at the present time. 4. -
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not contemplate any slips for small boats?
Col. HARTs. Not so far; no, sir. -
Mr. MoR DELL. If that basin is to be utilized as it ought to be
utilized there should be a lot of slips in which motor boats can be
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brought, so that a person could go on a boat without hiring or find-
ing a skiff to go out.
Col. HARTS. There has been very little demand for any boating
facilities in the basin.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is not that largely due to the difficulty of getting
out of the basin': -
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Going back to the replacing of this old boathouse,
if the plan we discussed yesterday is carried out, the plan of im-
provement which contemplates a bathing beach and a boathouse,
you would not want to replace this old structure where it is?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; that is a part of the plan.
Mr. MoRDELL. Does it work right in with that plan'
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. The boathouse is a part of that plan?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. There [indicating] is the landing stage
and there [indicating] is the boathouse. This ſindicating] will
be a little open area. This whole plan is to be put in as a unit some
day; we are working to that end. *
willow TREE PARK, CARE AND MAINTENANCE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For care and maintenace of
Willow Tree Park, $1,500?”
Col. HARTs. This is the interior of a square that probably the
committee is familiar with, which was torn out by the District to get
rid of a very bad slum. /
Mr. GILLETT. Where is it? --
Col. HARTs. On the southeast corner of Four and one-half Street
and Maryland Avenue. There are houses all around the outside; it
is only the interior of a block. We graded that, we put a pavement
around the entire alley, we erected a steel fence to protect our plant.
material, and we have provided a playground that the city has put
a lot of apparatus in and is now using. The funds for this were
turned over to me by the city and we carried out the design. The
area has been turned over to us as a part of the park System, and
we are asking for this amount to maintain the work.
Mr. GILLETT. You will not spend $1,500?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; in planting and in order to keep up the
grounds and paint the fence, and we have to have a man there to
fill up any holes that may occur.
Mr. GILLETT. You do not keep a man there all the time?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; probably one man and, possibly, in the sum-
mer one or two extra to go in there from time to time.
Mr. GILLETT. How does that take all of a man’s time?
Col. HARTs. That is about 200 by 450 feet long. There is a good
deal of material in there, a little piece of gardening, and Some Sand
piles for the children to play in. There is a good deal of work to be
done in a park of that size. - -
Mr. GILLETT. Is that a policeman or a laborer?
Col. HARTs. A laborer.
Mr. GILLETT. What does he do in the winter?
Col. HARTs. We have to let him go in the winter. The
the unfortunate things about this whole system. We 1.
442 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
three to four hundred extra men in the season and have to lay them
off between the 1st of November and the 1st of March each year. It
is a little hard on them. We have been trying to devise some Way of
having a permanent force, but so far it has not been successful.
MOUNT VERNON PARK, CARE AND MAINTENANCE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For care and maintenance of
Mount Vernon Park, $1,000.”
Col. HARTs. That is the park which surrounds the Carnegie Li-
brary. The Carnegie Library was placed in the middle of that park.
The CHAIRMAN. You have taken care of that park up to this time?
Col. HARTs. No; we just completed planting within the past year;
since I have been here.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that park on Ninth Street?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How have you taken care of it up to this time?
Col. HARTs. We have taken care of it out of the various appro-
priations.
The CHAIRMAN. Why not continue?
Col. HARTS. We have not enough money. We are getting such a
strain on our various reservation appropriations that we are not able
to take care of all the things we should like to. This park requires a
good deal of attention. It is very largely used by the public, and we
have rather a high development in it. 4. . ."
Mr. GILLETT. Is there a lump-sum maintenance appropriation
which you can spend on any of these parks?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. º
Mr. GILLETT. How much does that amount to ?
Col. HARTS. $30,000. We use that for all the small triangles.
The CHAIRMAN. Mount Vernon Park has been in existence for a
good many years?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; but we have recently practically finished
that park.
The CHAIRMAN. You have taken care of it out of some other ap-
propriation? - - -
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
WAGON SHIED AT PROPAGATING GARDEN S.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For constructing and erecting
a wagon shed at the propagating gardens, $7,000.” . . .
Col. HARTs. We have now an old wooden shed that is so badly
dilapidated that the wagons we have are practically out in the open.
º: should like to put up a galvanized iron and metal shed to re-
place it.
The CHAIRMAN. How many wagons will that take care of Ż
Col. HARTs. We have, I should say, offhand, about 20. We have
watering carts, and a spraying machine for spraying the trees, and
other wagons. g -
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the shed located? &
Col. HARTs. Right opposite the old Bureau of Engraving and
Printing, near the Monument. There ſindicating] is the location
of the present shed which we want to replace with a metal shed.
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ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY, NATIONAL MUSEUM.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For furnishing an additional
water supply for the two buildings in the Smithsonian Grounds
occupied by the National Museum, by extending the present 12-inch
Water main in those grounds out to the corner of Ninth and B Streets
NW., $1,500.”
Col. HARTs. This is an improvement that was asked for by the
Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, Mr. Walcott, who asked
for it in order to make the water supply of that building, never
properly completed, sufficient to protect against fire and for various
other reasons. -
The CHAIRMAN. How do they get their water? -
Col. HARTS. It now comes in from the opposite side and is con-
nected up with a main that runs to the south and west of the build-
ing. It is a smaller main, and it is a very much longer roundabout
Way. They want a direct connection with the larger main, con-
nected up at Ninth and B Streets. This is an appropriation asked
for by the National Museum.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any real advantage in doing that?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; a great advantage.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the difference in the size of the mains?
Col. HARTS. I do not remember. I know that it was never consid-
ered an adequate Water connection. •
Mr. GILLETT. Please give us the dimensions.
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. The present supply is a 6-inch main taken
off a 12-inch main that supplies the other three buildings on the
south side of the Mall, and no independent supply for the building
exists. Whenever anything happens to the supply at these buildings
it is necessary to cut the Water off from the new Museum entirely be-
fore repairs can be made. When the new main is installed the pipes
can be arranged so as to give a supply from two different systems and
always have ample water for any emergency at the new building.
IMPROVEMENT, CARE, AND MAINTENANCE OF GROUNDS OF EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENTS. .
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For improvements, care, and
maintenance of grounds of executive departments, $1,000.” This is
to care for the little places around the different buildings?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. We have the State, War, and Navy, the
Treasury, the Census Building, the Patent Office, the Interior Build-
ing, the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the United States Navy
Yard, the Aqueduct reservation, the Department of Justice, we sup-
ply them all with a few plants.
GROUNDS OF LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For such trees, shrubs, plants,
fertilizers, and skilled labor for the grounds of the Library of Con-
gress as may be requested by the Superintendent of the Library
Building,” $1,000. -
Col. HARTs. That is the usual appropriation we need for fertilizers
and all material and supplies.
444 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
GROUNDS OF CAPITOL.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For such trees, shrubs, plants,
fertilizers, and skilled labor for the grounds of the Capitol and the
Senate and House Office Buildings as may be requested by the Su-
perintendent of the Capitol Building, $4,000.”
Col. HARTS. That is the usual appropriation.
IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE OF EXECUTIVE MANSION GROUNDS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For improvement and main-
tenance of Executive Mansion grounds (within iron fence), $5,000.”
Does it take the entire sum for that purpose?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. We had a balance of $4 in the appropria-
tion last year. .
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SEWER, wºST EXECUTIVE AVENUE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For reconstructing a portion
of the sewer in West Executive Avenue, $5,000.”
Col. HARTs. This is a portion of the sewer, about 600 feet long,
that was condemned by the city a short time ago as not being in
proper condition. It will require $5,000 to replace it. We want to
put it in with brick or tile.
The CHAIRMAN. How old is it?
Col. HARTs. I do not know ; it is very old.
The CHAIRMAN. Is West Executive Avenue in the park system?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is it a large sewer?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; it is 3 feet in diameter.
ENGINEER.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For the employment of an en-
gineer by the officer in charge of Public Buildings and Grounds,
$2,400 °%
Col. HARTs. That is for Mr. Owen.
PARK LABORERs, PAY OF.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you pay for labor?
Col. HARTS. $1.60; that is, common labor.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the usual rate of labor in the District?
Col. HARTS. $1.50 in the District government. The usual rate is
about $1.50 for 10 hours on the street car lines and with the con-
tractors. It sometimes is even less than that.
Mr. GILLETT. It is colored labor almost entirely?
Col. HARTs. Well, no; not almost entirely. That, I think, has
some effect on the price, perhaps.
Mr. GILLETT. It is not general?
Col. HARTs. No, sir. There is a very large amount of white labor.
We pay a little better than the ordinary price in the city and our
work is probably not quite so hard as the ordinary paving contrac-
tor’s. I looked up the question of labor several months ago. If
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the committee would like me to change these rates it would mean ad-
ditional funds, and I find that for ordinary labor in a year, ex-
clusive of skilled labor and salaries, our pay roll amounts to about
$80,000. It would be between $20,000 and $25,000 additional if we
increased the rate to $2 or whatever you increase the daily rate to,
the proportion would be of a corresponding amount. -
Mr. GILLETT, You are paying now a little above the ordinary
standard of this community? *
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. We pay enough to be able to have no diffi-
culty in getting all the labor we need and of the grade we require.
Mr. MoRDELL. You pay a little more for 8 hours than the going
rate for 10 hours?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir.
EXECUTIVE MANSION.
ORDINARY CARE, REPAIR, REFURNISHING, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Executive Mansion: For ordi-
nary care, repair, and refurnishing of Executive Mansion, and for
purchase, maintenance, and driving of horses and vehicles for official
purposes, to be expended by contract or otherwise, as the President
may determine,” and the appropriation is $35,000 for this year,
which is the amount requested for mext year?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Out of this appropriation are paid all the ex-
penses for the care of the house?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; servants, mechanics, ordinary repairs, etc.
The CIIAIRMAN. Did you have any unexpended balance?
Col. HARTS. No, sir; we have a very hard time to make the appro-
priation cover the expenses.
FUEL FOR GREENHOUSEs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For fuel for the Executive
Mansion and greenhouses, $6,000.”
Col. HARTs. That is the usual appropriation.
GREENHOUSES, CARE OF.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For care and maintenance of
greenhouses, Executive Mansion, $9,000.” Where are they located,
at the same place?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; the propagating greenhouses and the White
House greenhouses are all in the same place.
The CHAIRMAN. This appropriation furnishes plants for the
White House and the grounds also }
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; we furnish a large number of cut flowers
and decorative palms for the White House. -
REPAIRS TO GREEN HOUSES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For repairs to greenhouses,
Executive Mansion, $3,000.” How many greenhouses are up there?
446 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Col. HARTS. We have 17 greenhouses belonging to the White
House, and 5 pits. -
Mr. GILLETT. What is a pit? -
Cok. HARTS. It is a hole in the ground covered with a frame. It
has a glass cover, but it is not a regular glass house.
RECONSTRUCTING ONE GREEN HOUSE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For reconstructing one green-
house, Executive Mansion, $4,000.”
Col. HARTS. All of those greenhouses were moved from the
grounds back of the White House down to this vicinity, and these
are the same old houses that were moved down. They are in bad
shape, and we have to rebuild one occasionally in order to keep
them up.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you need to rebuild one of them now %
Col. HARTs. Yes; we would like to rebuild one each year.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you rebuilt any yet?
Col. HARTs. No, sir.
LIGHTING AND HEATING.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Lighting and heating for the
public grounds: For lighting the public grounds, watchmen’s lodges,
offices, and greenhouses at the propagating gardens, including all
necessary expenses of installation, maintenance, and repair, $18,500.”
The current appropriation is $16,500.
Col. HARTS. The increase is necessary for the lighting of east
Potomac Park, which has never been lighted before.
The CHAIRMAN. This will extend the lights to that side?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; I have just issued an order to put lights on
the river-side road of east Potomac Park, and We Want to carry this
lighting along on the other side. -
The CHAIRMAN. Will this carry the lighting all around?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; that is, the $2,000 additional. We asked
$1,500 additional last year, which we got, and those lights are now
being put in. They will go in during this month of January. The
$2,000 will provide for lights during the next fiscal year.
Mr. MONDELL. I want to thank you for putting in the red light
down there as a danger signal, but there is one other point where one
is needed, and that is at the side of the Pan-American Building.
The street is double there for a ways—
Col. HARTS. Just west of the Pan-American Building, where that
middle parking is? - *
Mr. MoRDELL. Yes, sir; as the two streets come together they nar-
row rather quickly.
TELEGRAPEI LINE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Telegraph to connect the Capi-
tol with the departments and Government Printing Office: For care
and repair of existing lines, including printing, binding, and blank
books, $500.” Is that system still working?
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Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; there are about 43 miles of that line connect-
ing all of the department buildings except the Departments of Com-
merce and Labor. - -
WASHINGTON MONUMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. For Washington Monument you ask $8,820, which
is the amount of the current appropriation. That is practically all
for the pay roll?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. Is the monument open on Sundays?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. There is another appropriation on the next
page covering the extra charge for Sunday. There is an average of
about 650 people a day there ordinarily.
The CHAIRMAN. For fuel, light, oil, waste, packing, etc., you ask
$3,000, that being the amount of the current appropriation.
The next item is, “For extra services of employees and additional
employees, and for additional supplies and materials, for opening the
Washington Monument to the public on Sundays and legal holidays,
$2,500.” This is the first year the monument has been opened on
Sundays; what has been the result? - -
Col. HARTS. We have had an average of about 450 people there on
Sundays. It has been greatly used. The average is about 650 people
during the week. Over 4,000,000 people have gone to the top of the
monument, and we have a daily average of 650 ordinarily, and an
average of 450 on Sundays. e
BIRTHPLACE OF GEORGE WASHINGTON.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Birthplace of George Wash-
ington, Wakefield, Wa. For repairs to fences and cleaning up and
maintaining grounds about the monument, $100.”
Col. HARTs. That is for repairs to the fence and roads.
Mr. GILLETT. Does the Nation own that?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir. We have a man down there who is paid
out of the legislative appropriation bill, and we have a roadway
and wharf. The wharf has gone to pieces, but the roadway is still
being taken care of.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is that?
Mr. CourTs. That is down in Westmoreland County, Va.
~ COMIMISSION OF FINE ARTS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for the Commission of Fine Arts.
The current appropriation is $5,000, and you are asking $7,500.
Col. HARTs. I want to say in regard to that item that a good many
more submissions are made to the commission every year than Were
made during the year preceding and we now need to have a greater
number of meetings.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a list of those submissions?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And of the rejections and approvals?
Col. HARTs. I have not the approvals and rejections here. The
submissions in 1911 were 41; in 1912, 37; in 1913, 56; in 1914, 62;
448 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
and so far in 1915, or to January 6, we have had 93 submissions. The
amount that we have now is for the bare travel expenses of the mem-
bers and the necessary office expense connected with preparing the
records. '3.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the character of those submissions?
Col. HARTS. We have all kinds of things. For instance, we have
at this time a number of paintings which have been submitted by the
Senate Library Committee. These have been submitted to the com-
mission to determine whether they should be purchased by the Gov-
ernment; that is, to see whether they possess artistic value.
The CHAIRMAN. What are they?
Col. HARTS. They are portraits of Justices of the Supreme Court.
Mr. GILLETT. Where are they to go?
Col. HARTs. In the Capitol somewhere. At the last meeting we
had some five portraits of Chief Justice Fuller to pass on.
Mr. SHERLEY. Were they accepted? -
Col. HARTs. Not yet. I do not think they were recommended.
Mr. SHERLEY. How do they come to you?
Col. HARTs. They were referred to us by the Committee on the
Jibrary. They have also reported on a new building for the Geo-
logical Survey and other bureaus of the Interior Department, on the
memorial amphitheater for Arlington Cemetery, and the Red Cross
Building. Their work covers buildings and monuments. There is
a monument now to be pased upon at the next meeting, the question
being a monument to an engineer named Alfred Noble. They are
the most eminent men in their special lines in this country.
The CHAIRMAN. Who constitutes the commission ? -
Col. HARTs. The chairman is Mr. Daniel C. French, who is prob-
ably the foremost sculptor in this country. He is a past and hon-
orary president of the Sculptors Association, and is one of the fore-
most men in his line. Mr. Cass Gilbert is an architect who has de-
signed probably more of the high bulidings in New York City than
any other architect. He is a man of great ability. Mr. Frederick
Law Olmsted is the foremost landscape artist in this country; he
inherited a great deal of his father’s talent. The painter member is
Mr. E. H. Blashfield, who is the president of the National Society
of Mural Painters. FIe has done a great deal of writing and high-
grade work. -
Mr. GILLETT. How are the vacancies filled ''
Col. HARTs. They are appointed by the President. The present
plan is for the members of the Fine Arts Commission to resign at
the rate of two every year, so that it will be a partly new organiza-
tion—that is, partly new and in any case continuous, so as not to
have any abrupt changes and so that the policies and ideas of the
commission can be carried out. That plan will begin this next June.
Mr. GILLETT. How many members are there?
Col. HARTs. Seven. To continue the enumeration of the members.
Mr. Thomas Hastings, of the firm of Carrère & Hastings, architects
for the New York Library and a good many other large build-
ings
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). They were the architects of the
Senate and House Office Buildings.
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. Then, Mr. Pierce Anderson, of the firm of
j). H. Purnham & Co.
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The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Mr. Burnham himself was at one
time a member of the commission. \ -
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir; and Mr. Anderson was appointed on the
death of Mr. Burnham to fill his vacancy. Mr. Charles Moore is
the lay member. He is now director of the Detroit Museum of Arts,
and was at one time the clerk of the Senate Committee on the District
of Columbia; he is also chairman of the Detroit City Improvement
Commission and an author of note. He is an able man in this line
and is well qualified for his position on the commission.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you put a statement in the record showing
how this money was expended” -
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
(The statement refered to is as follows:)
Salaries of employees, who assist the Commission by keeping records,
gathering data, correspondence, etc * * * --> -- - $2,510. 00
Members’ traveling expenses (5 meetings held) 1, 423.43
Office supplies –––––– * 409. 61.
Photographs and printing, telephone and telegraph services, cleaning
and other char Services, etc.------------------------------------- 656.96
Total expended-------------------------------------------- 5,000. 00
A mount of appropriation__
* * - 5, 000. 00
The commission pays no rent, authority and funds for renting not having
been granted by Congress, and occupies its quarters through the courtesy of the
War Department. Its last three reports have been published for the commission
by Congress, as no funds were available for having them printed by the com-
mission ; the Commission has been informed that this can not be done any
longer, and about $400 of the extra amount asked for is urgently needed for
defraying the expenses of printing its next annual report. f -
The commission uses only such an amount from its appropriation as is neces-
sary for the proper performal)ce of its functions, returning any amount not
absolutely needed to the Treasury. While this surplus returned to the Treasury
was $444.68 from an appropriation of $10,000 in 1911, and $2,016.11 from an
appropriation of $8,800 in 1912, and $110.70 from an appropriation of $5,000
in 1913, nothing could be returned from their $5,000 appropriation in 1914. Dur-
ing 1914 five meetings were held, to which Inumber the commission will be lim-
ited during the present fiscal year, despite the large increase in submissions.
This increase is largely submissions made by Congressional Committees, pal-
ticularly the Committees on the Library of the House and Senate, and covers
a wide range of Subjects, such as the erection of monuments and public build-
ings, the artistic merit of paintings proposed for acquisition by Congress, com-
pletion of the Capitol frieze, etc. Prior to 1910, the year of the creation of the
Commission, many hundreds of dollars had to be spent for expert advice re-
garding the plans and models for monuments to be erected under authority of
the United States and during the execution of the work, and it is probable that
the Saving in this item of expense alone has been as much as the sum total
of the appropriations made for the commission since its organization. Further-
more, the commission has advised against the purchase of various paintings
that are inferior works of art, which, if purchased by Congress at sums stated
in the bills for their purchase, would have cost the Government more than the
amounts heretofore appropriated for the Commission.
The commission’s advice is invariably in the direction of simplicity and against
ornateness, and it has repeatedly urged the Omission of useless colonades and
other elaborations, which seemed to be proposed for purely decorative pur-
poses and tended to hamper the straightforward Solution of practical problems.
For instance, in a design submitted for the proposed District of Columbia
Armory, the commission recommended changes in the exterior arrangement of
columns, which, if followed, will probably reduce the cost of that building
Several hundred thousand dollarS.
The commission has rendered assistance to every department Of the GOVern-
ment, except that of Tabor, to the Isthmian Canal Commission, and to numer-
ous other bureaus and offices, and in particular to the President and COm-
mittees of Congress. Its recommendations have resulted in a marked improve-
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450 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
ment in the beauty and artistic character of the monuments and public build-
ing erected and planlled in Washington during the last four years and a saying
of mally thousands of dollars to the Government. Congress is imposing from
year to year additional duties upon the commission, by stipulating in many
entuctinents that designs and plans for buildings and monuments must be ap-
I)1'O Ved by the connnnission before they can be accepted for the Government.
Jºurthernlore, it has been noted that the very fact that there is a National Com-
mission of Fine Arts serves to restrain the presentation of inferior works of .
art and stimulates those who submit their work to the commission to use their
ultillost efforts in order to bring their work to the highest standard; thereby the
stall(la l'ºl of monuments alld buildings. to be erected under authority of the
lil lited States is constantly being raised, and the Government is ensured the
l)est, possilyle results from the large amounts yearly appropriated for works of
al rt of every description. r
The CITAIRMAN. You are paying out of this no compensation, but
only traveling expenses?
Col. HARTS. Traveling expenses and hotel expenses are the only
amounts paid out of it to any member. They come here usually for
One day and go back the same day. They serve without compen-
Šation.
Mr. GILLETT. How often do they meet? - &
Col. HARTs. We have enough money for about six meetings. We
have a clerk who keeps track of the records and a messenger.
Mr. GILLETT. Do they want to meet oftener? -
Col. HARTs. They ought to meet a good deal oftener. We pile up
material sometimes so deeply that one day is not enough in which to
pass on it and they have to suspend the work to another time. This
work is expanding very materially. tº a tº
Mr. GILLETT. It seems to me it would take a good deal of their time
in traveling. . e .
Col. HARTs. A good many of these things have to be looked into
further. For instance, one of the paintings referred to there is one
hat has been received from Massachusetts—“The Death of Lt. Col
that has been received from Massachusetts 10 UQ2LUI). O § e
Alonzo Cushing at Gettysburg.” It was proposed by somebody for
purchase by the Government.
GRANT MEMORIAL, UNVEILING OF.
The CIAIRMAN. You ask the reappropriation of $5,000 for un-
veiling and dedicating the memorial to Gen. Ulysses S. Grant.
Col. HARTs. I ought to say to the committee that we have extended
the time for the completion of this memorial to the 1st of August,
1915, but I doubt very much whether the monument will be finished
and ready. -
The CirAIRMAN. What is the trouble? e g
Col. HARTs. The man who is at work on it, Mr. Shrady, is not in
very good physical condition. It has been in progress 11 years
already. They have now completed the artillery group and four
lions. . .
Mr. GILLETT. They are down there? tº sº tº
Col. Harts. Yes, sir. There is also a cavalry group, which is now
designed, but not cast. The character of the work is very high and
it has been beautifully done. The plaster cast of the cavalry group
is one-quarter size and they are now making the full size. The ques-
tion of the statue of Grant has not yet been touched, nor the two
tablets on either side. }
Mr. GILLETT. Who is Mr. Shrady?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 451
Col. HARTs. He is the sculptor. .
The CHAIRMAN. Have you seen the plaster cast?
Col. HARTS. Yes, sir—that is, I have not seen the plasters, but I
have seen photographs. It is a wonderfully fine piece of work. The
cavalry group has as much action in it, if not more, than the artillery
group, and it has seven horses in it. tº
The CHAIRMAN. You ask that all these appropriations shall be
available for printing, binding, and blank books. That is in con-
templation of the Barnhart bill, is it not?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
LIN COLN MEMORIAL.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Lincoln Memorial Commission:
For continuing the erection of the Lincoln Memorial in accordance
with the plans and design and on the location approved by Congress
and for each and every purpose connected there with, to be immedi-
ately available, $600,000.” You have already had $700,000 for this
purpose, and the limit of cost is $2,000,000?
Col. HARTs. This ſindicating] is the most recent photograph. This
ſindicating] shows the foundations at one stage of the work. This
[indicating] shows the method of putting down these tubes to the
rock for the foundations. There were 122 of these tubes sunk to
rock by weighting them with heavy concrete blocks. Then the in-
terior was dug out and filled with reinforced concrete. This ſin-
dicating] is all to be finally underground.
The CHAIRMAN. When will the foundations be finished 2
Col. HARTs. On the 27th of February.
The CHAIRMAN. Of this year? sº
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you use all of this $600,000 next year?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir. The appropriation for the present year is
$400,000, and was made last summer with the idea that if this $600,000
should be appropriated by March of this year our work would not be
interrupted. * -
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you need this full amount to continue the work?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; unless we are going to stop the marble work
on the memorial. The full amount will be necessary.
ARLINGTON MEMORIAI, AMPI-IITTIEATER.
The CHAIRMAN. For the Arlington Memorial Amphitheater you
ask $500,000 for completing the construction. !
Mr. GILLETT. Did we ever begin that?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; we did. Have you let the contract yet?
Col. HARTs. No, sir; but we are just about to let it now. We are
discussing the question of the selection of the marble, and the com-
mission will probably meet next week and select the marble. The
contract will probably be let within the next 10 days. After the
contract is let this additional amount of money Will be necessary to
be appropriated, unless the work is to be interrupted.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the limit of cost?
Col. HARTS. $750,000, and $250,000 have been appropriated already.
The CHAIRMAN. At the time we appropriated that money Mr. Hast-
ings thought you would let the contract in a couple of weeks.
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Col. HARTs. We have got some bids for this work that are very
much less than expected, owing to hard times in building operations,
and we find that there are a number of things that we had provided
for in the way of wooden doors, for instance, that we want to change
back to the original plans calling for bronze doors. We Want those
things that we originally designed as far as it may be practicable
with the funds available, without going beyond the total. Those plans
are now being worked out.
I would like to say to the committee that my office has recently
been put on the same basis as that of the other District office under
the Chief of Engineers. If anything comes up in his office in regard
to the District my office is called on for reports in the same way as
other District offices. For instance, matters relating to Rock Creek
Park and matters affecting any reservations that are not parts of the
parking system are now referred to my office for report. Also, in
addition to my other duties, I have recently been put in charge of
the construction of the Red Cross Building, which is a big structure,
the Lincoln Memorial, and the Arlington Memorial Amphitheater,
so the work of the office has been very much increased.
Mr. GILLETT. Have they started with the Red Cross Building?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; they are putting in the foundations now.
Mr. MoRDELL. In view of the fact that you have not let the con-
tract for the Arlington Memorial Amphitheater, is it likely that you
will need this entire sum of $500,000 within the next year, in addi-
tion to what you have now available?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; the contract contemplates the completion of
this work in two working seasons.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is, this coming summer and the summer fol-
lowing?
Col. HARTs. Yes, sir; this coming summer and the summer follow-
ing. If they should get their work along more rapidly than the
contract rate, which is hardly to be expected, they might finish
earlier in the following summer than we have anticipated; but the
next session of Congress will be a long one, lasting into the summer.
and if we have to wait until some time in the summer for the appro-
priation we would probably have to stop work.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1915.
RIVERS AND HARBORS WORK. -
STATEMENT OF LIEUT. COL HARRY TAYLOR, ASSISTANT TO THE
CHIEF OF ENGINEERS.
Col. TAYLOR. Mr. Chairman, I have the usual information in tabu-
lar form which gives the amount of the authorization, the amount
that has been appropriated under this authorization prior to the date
of this estimate, the amount of the authorization remaining unap-
propriated, the amount of estimates we have heretofore submitted,
and the amount we now ask for. *
The CHAIRMAN. And you have that information prepared for each
one of these items? -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 453
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the general result -
Col. TAYLOR. In the estimate we originally submitted we had six
items making a total of $4,344,800, and I am now asking for a total
of $3,882,000. The estimates are the same except in the cases of
Providence River and harbor and Tillamook Bay and bar, Oreg.
The Providence River and harboy estimate of $327,800 is eliminated
entirely for the reason that that project was adopted subject to a
certain condition, the condition being that no money should be spent
north of Fields Point, a point in the lower portion of the harbor,
until the city or other locality had expended a certain amount of
money, $2,000,000, in improvements for the benefit of navigation.
They have spent a considerable sum, but it now appears that the con-
dition will not be fully met this next year, so that the money which
we asked for at the time the annual report was submitted will
probably not be needed this next year, consequently we are leaving
that out. The Tillamook Bay and bar project was adopted on a co-
operative basis; that is, the locality puts up dollar for dollar with
the United States. The Work is under contract and progressing at
a reasonable rate, but the progress has not been such as to indicate
we will need all the money, so we have reduced our estimate from
$207,000 to $172,000, making a decrease for this itein of $35,000, or
a total net decrease of $362,800.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice in the estimates the item of improving
the Ohio River below Pittsburgh, Pa., by the construction of locks
and dams in completion of contract authorization. The limit of
cost is $3,200,000 and you are asking for the entire sum. Will you
need it all?
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir; that is for different portions of the locks
- and dams, at Locks 12, 14, 16, 17, 24, 29, 31, 35, 48, and some at 41.
It is all covered by contract and we will need it all. .
The CHAIRMAN. From the statement you submit, Colonel, it ap-
pears that under the various river and harbor acts, commencing in
1880, there are certain balances between the authorizations and the
appropriations aggregating in all $15,099,429, and of these sums you
have submitted revised estimates for $3,882,000, leaving about
$12,000,000 of balances still to be appropriated on projects for which
no estimates have been submitted. Can you state why estimates
have not been submitted on these various projects?
Col. TAYLOR. For the reason that the money is not now required;
generally because the work has already been completed at a cost less
than the original estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you cover those balances into the Treasury?
Col. TAYLOR. They have never been appropriated. We have never
asked for them. These are the balances unappropriated. For in-
stance, we are authorized to enter into a contract for the completion
of a work at a certain estimated amount. We make the contract for
the work and if we succeed in making a contract for the completion
of the work below the original estimate, we do not ask for any more
money to be appropriated than is required to cover the amount of
the contract. ; -
The CHAIRMAN. Then of the items in which there are balances be-
tween the authorization and the amount already appropriated, that
is due either to the fact that the work has been completed or that
454 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
there is sufficient money on hand already appropriated which makes
additional appropriation at this time unnecessary?
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Or else the work is at such a stage you do not
need any money at all at this time?
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir.
Generally, either the project has been com-
pleted or the money on hand is sufficient to carry it to the end of the
next fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. On all these projects under contract you have
asked for all the money that is required or you have it on hand?
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And could not use any more money if you had it?
Col. TAYLOR. No, sir.
River and harbor works under continuing contract.

Estimate
* 1. in ch: Revised
Locality. in º estimate. Decrease.
Act of 1911. 3.
Marquette Harbor, Mich... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $100,000.00 || $100,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Act of 1918
Hudson River, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . ... --------.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 410,000.00 410,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
EIudson River Channel, New York Eſarbor. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 100,000.00 |- . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Ohio River below Pittsburgh, Pa.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,200,000.00 || 3,200,000.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Providence River and Harbor, R. I... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 327,800.00 |. . . . . . . . . . . . . . $327,800.00
Tillamook Bay and Bar, Oreg. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 207,000.00 172,000.00 35,000.00
4,344,800.00 3,882,000.00 362,800.00
RECAPITULATION.
Act of 1911.--------------------------------------------------- $100,000.00 || $100,000.00 |..............
Act of 1913---------------------------------------------------- 4,244,800.00 3,882,000.00 || $362,800.00
4,344,800.00 3,982,000.00 362,800.00
Improving harbor at Marquette, J/ich.
Limit of contract authorization provided for by act of Feb. 27, 1911-- $311, 000
Amount appropriated under this authorization prior to date of this
revision of estimate--------------------------------------------- 211, 000
Balance of authorization remaining unappropriated___________ 100,000
Probable expenditures from date of this revision to end of fiscal year ||
for which this estimate is Submitted.------------------------------ 375,000

For breakwater extension :
Rubble mound, to complete--------------------------- $310, 000
Administration and contingencies---------------------
65,000
Total------------------------------------------------------- 375,000
|Unexpended balance of funds on hand and in the Treasury at date Of .
making this revision of estimate--------------------------------- 275,000
Amount required to be appropriated for the fiscal year-------------- 100,000
Amount of estimate for the same fiscal year as submitted (by the
Chief of Engineers) in the summary of the last annual report_____ 100,000
The appropriation recommended is required for work to be done in accord-
ance With the existing approved project.
Remarles.—Continuous contract With T. L. Durochel', dated November 5, 1914
(95274), provides for the completion of this work by December 1, 1916, but a
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 455
statement recently made to me by the contractor, to the effect that he is greatly
increasing his plant, makes it possible for him to complete it by June 30, 1916.
Improving Hudson, River, N. Y.
Limit of contract authorization provided for by act of Mar. 4, 1913____ $560,000
Amount appropriated under this authorization prior to date of this t
revision of estimate -— — — — — — — ----------------------- 150, 000
Balance of authorization remaining unappropriated.----------- 410, 000
Dredging and rock removal in accordance with latest approved sub-
project---------------------------------------- ––––––––––––––––– 504, 000
Engineering, Contingencies, etc.------------------------------------- 56,000
- TOtal ---------------- -_____ 560, 000
Unexpended balance of funds on hand and in the Treasury at date of -
making this revision of estimate--------------------------------- 150, 000
Amount required to be appropriated for the fiscal year 410, 000
Amount of estimate for the same fiscal year as submitted (by the
Chief of Engineers) in the summary of the last annual report______ 410, 000
The appropriation recommended is required for work to be done in accord-
ance with the existing approved project.
Remarles.—The amount estimated is covered by a contract now in force.
Improving Ohio River below Pittsburgh, Pa.
Limit of contract authorization provided for by act of Mar. 4, 1913 - $3, 200,000
Balance of authorization remaining unappropriated_______________ 3, 200, 000
Probable expenditures from date Of this revision to end of fiscal year
for which this estimate is Submitted 5, 538, 000
Continuing construction of lock and guide walls, river-wall
power house, navigable-pâss foundation, bear-trap weirs, Chanoine
wier foundation, abutment, esplanade, etc., at Dams Nos. 12, 14,
16, 17, 20, 24, 29, 31, 35, and 48, and new lock and widening canal
at No. 41.
Total----------------------------------------- –––––––––––– 5, 538, 000
Estimated unexpended balance of funds on hand and in the Treasury
at date of making this revision of estimate--------------------- 2, 338, 000
Amount required to be appropriated for the fiscal year------------- 3, 200, 000
Amount of estimate for the same fiscal year as submitted (by the
Chief of Engineers) in the summary of the last annual report____ 3, 200, 000
The appropriation recommended is required for work to be done in accordance
with the existing approved project.
Remarles.—Work is being prosecuted under contract at all the locks and dams
indicated above, and it is expected that the full amount of the contract all-
thorization will be needed by June 30, 1916. .
Improving New York, Harbor, N. Y., Hudson River Channel.
Limit Of COIntract authorization provided for by act of Mar. 4, 1913____ $250, 000
Amount appropriated under this authorization prior to date of this
revision of estimate--------------------------------------------- 150, 000
Balance of authorization remaining unappropriated----------- 100, 000
Dredging in accordance with latest approved Subproject-------------- 225,000
Engineering Contingencies, etc.---------------- - ___ 25,000
Total------------------------------------------------------- 250, 000
Unexpended balance of funds on hand and in the Treasury at date
of making this revision of estimate------------------------------ 150, 000
Amount required to be appropriated for the fiscal year----- –––––––––– 100,000
Amount of estimate for the same fiscal year as Submitted (by the
Chief of Engineers) in the summary of the last annual report------ 100,000
456 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The appropriation recommended is required for work to be done in accordance
with the existing approved project. -
Réma'lcS.—The amount estimated is covered by a contract now in force.
Improving Providence River and Harbor, R. I.
Limit of contract authorization provided for by act of Mar. 4, 1913___ $827, 800
Anaount appropriated under this authorization prior to date of this
revision of estimate--------------------------------------------- 500, 000
Baliullce Of all thorization remaining unappropriated___________ 327, 800
l'robable expenditures from date of the revision to end of fiscal year
for Which this estimate is Submitted.------------------------------ 403, 177
Dredging --------------------------------- . $300,000
Outstanding liabilities__ 6:1, 000.
Surveys, Superintendence, and COntingencies 42, 177
Total-------------*— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — & 403, 177
Unexpended balance of funds on hand and in the Treasury at date of -
making this revision of estimate---- 403, 177
Annouilt of estimate for the Same fiscal year as Submitted (by the
Chief of Engineers) in the summary of the last annual report______ 327, 800
Itelation of revised estimate now Submitted to the estimate Submitted
in the last annual report, amount of decrease - __ 327, 800
The appropriation recommended is required for work to be done in accordance
with the existing approved project.
Røm (17°lcS.—It is not anticipated at this time that the Conditions illnposed by
the act of 1913 Will be complied With in time to permit the work above Fields
Point to be taken up and pushed to completion during the year 1916. As the
funds on hand are sufficient for all other Work authorized, the additional
amount previously recommended will probably not be needed, and this item
may be omitted from the bill.
Improving Tillamools Bay and Bar, Oreg.
Limit of contract authorization provided for by act of Mar. 4, 1913--- $207,000
Balance of authorization remaining unappropriated.----------------- 207, 000
Jetty Construction –––––––––––––––––––– * * ____ $527, 000 -
Dredging------------------------------------------------ 50, 000
Contingencies–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 50, 000
Total ------------------------------------------------------ 627, 000
Unexpended balance of funds on hand and in the Treasury at date of
making this revision of estimate (estimated) ––––––––––––––––––––– 455, 000
Amount required to be appropriated for the fiscal year-------------- 172, 000
Amount of estimate for the same fiscal year as Submitted (by the
Chief of Engineers) in the summary of the last annual report_-__ 207,000
Relation of revised estimate now submitted to the estimate submitted -
in the last annual report, amount of decrease--------------------- 35, 000
The appropriation recommended is required for work to be done in accord-
ance with the existing approved project, -
Remarles.—This improvement is being prosecuted by cooperation with local
interests, who are to pay one-half of its cost. In View of the progress made,
it appears that the work will not be completed by June 30, 1916, and that the
appropriation to be made available by the United States for work up to that
date may be reduced from $207,000 to $172,000, as indicated above.
CALIFORNIA DiºrIS COMMISSION.
The CIIAIRMAN. For the California Débris Commission, you are.
asking for $15,000, the same as last year.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 457
Col. TAYLOR. That is the regular estimate which has been sub-
mitted for a number of years and which has been just about used
up each year. I have a statement here of the amount that has been
used for the last five or six years and the lowest amount in that time
was $9,201 in 1913, and the highest amount was $14,194 in 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. How about the necessity for continuing this work?
Col. TAYLOR. There is a very great necessity.
The CHAIRMAN. What is this work?
Col. TAYLOR. The commission regulates hydraulic mining in Cali-
fornia. If a man wishes to do any hydraulic mining he submits an
application for a permit to the commission. The commission then
sends some one out to investigate the site where he proposes to store
his débris and they examine the plans for his dam or his restraining
barrier which is intended to keep the débris from going down into
the rivers. This work was started in 1893 and 'since then they have
practically kept the débris out of the Sacramento and San Joaquin
Rivers. It has improved conditions very materially.
Mr. GILLETT. This commission would not have any power to en-
force their orders, would they? sº
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. How %
Col. TAYLOR. They have such power under the laws of the State of
California. There is quite an interesting little table here in the
report for this year showing the low-water readings at Sacramento.
The city of Sacramento is in the lower reach of the Sacramento
River, and this débris, as it got into the upper reaches, gradually
worked down stream as far as the city of Sacramento and formed
bars and raised the river bed. Since the commission has been at
work this débris has been gradually working out of the river. This
table gives the low-water readings going back to 1849 in periods of
five years. The low-water reading at Sacramento is not affected
very much by the stage of the river, because the river reaches pretty
nearly the same low-water stage every year. From 1849 to 1853 the
average low-water reading was 0.6 of a foot on the gauge.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by 0.6 of a foot on the gauge?
Col. TAYLOR. That is a little over 6 inches. Instead of taking feet
and inches we take feet and tenths. *
Mr. GILLETT. Compared with what?
Col. TAYLOR. The zero of the gauge was supposed to be low water.
The zero of the gauge was reached in 1849 and again in 1856; that is,
there was a gauge showing feet and tenths established on the river
bank, Zero being at what was supposed to be low Water in the river.
That low water was reached in 1849 and in the period from 1849 to
1853, the average low-water reading for those five years was 0.6 of a
foot.
Mr. GILLETT. You mean above Zero! - -
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir. From 1854 to 1858 it was 1.2; from 1859 to
1863 it was 2.2, it had gone up 0.6; from 1862 to 1863 there were no
records. From 1874 to 1878 it was 5.5 feet. In other words, the sand
by that time had worked down into the river to such an extent it
had raised the bed of the river practically 5.5 feet. From 1879 to
1883 it was 6.5; 1884 to 1888, 7.3; 1889 to 1893, 7.8; 1894 to 1898, 8;
that is about the time the California Débris Commission began work.
458 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. That shows that the bottom of the river had
raised 8 feet. *
Sol. TAYLOR. Yes, sir; opposite Sacramento, which is well down
toward the mouth of the river. Further up the river it had raised a
great deal more. 1899 to 1903, 7.2; 1904 to 1908, 6.8; 1909 to 1913,
4.7; in other words, it is getting back now to the point where it was
before mining was commenced. -
The CHAIRMAN. The material that had accumulated there is now
being carried out? *
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir; and there is no more material coming in.
Mr. GILLETT. I suppose the source of supply had nothing to do
with that, the fact of there being less water or anything of that kind?
Col. TAYLOR. No, sir. The report says:
The Weathol: Bureau gauge at Sacral)) ento showed the lowest reading, 2.5
feet, that has been noted for over 40 years. This was not entirely due to the
low discharge, for lower discharges have Occurred in this period, but rather
to the fact that the river bed is working down to the condition obtaining before
the days Of unrestricted hydraulic limining.
Mr. GILLETT. They were filling up badly at Mare Island. Do you
suppose this work is relieving that situation any ?
Col. TAYLOR. I hardly think the effect has reached that far, but it
will in the course of a few years, and it will be felt there and at San
Pablo Bay. The material undoubtedly is running out now. Sacra-
mento is some 40 miles above Mare Island and I think in the next few
years they will begin to notice a very marked difference in the amount
of sediment in the bay opposite Mare Island. Therefore it is ex-
tremely important that this $15,000 should be appropriated. The
money is expended largely in investigations and examinations of
proposed mining sites. }
Mr. GILLETT. Is anyone from your department in charge?
Col. TAYLOR. Yes, sir; it is a commission consisting of three Engi-
neer officers. They employ the necessary assistants to make the
surveys and have an assistant engineer employed all the time, and
he spends a great deal of his time traveling around in that country.
Mr. GILLETT. Of what rank are those officers? ,”
Col. TAYLOR. One lieutenant colonel and two majors. They are
the district officers stationed, two in San Francisco and one in Los
Angeles, and they do this work in connection with their other
duties. There is no expense connected with their belonging to the
commission except the mileage that the officer at Los Angeles gets
when he goes to attend the meeting in San Francisco.
THURSDAY, JAN UARY 7, 1915.
HARBOR OF NEW YORK, PREVENTING DEPOSITS IN.
STATEMENT OF LIEUT. COL, EDGAR. JADWIN, ASSISTANT TO THE
CHIEF OF ENGINEERS, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
The CHAIRMAN. Harbor of New York; For prevention of obstruc-
tive and injurious deposits within the harbor and adjacent Waters
of New York City: -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 459
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PAY OF INSPECTORs, CREws, of FICE FoRCE, ETC.
“For pay of inspectors, deputy inspectors, crews, and office force,”
etc.
The appropriation is $10,260. That is a permanent force?
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And that is what it will cost next year?
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The crews and maintenance of the patrol fleet,
six tugs and one launch, will cost $75,000 next year?
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir; that is, only five tugs. We sold a tug about
a year and a half or so ago. g
The CHAIRMAN. What have you in its place? { 3.
Col. JADWIN. We have nothing in its place, sir. That was men-
tioned last year. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you require the same sum of money to run
five boats as you did to run six? -
Col. JADWIN. They were actually using the same number of crews
and actually keeping the same number of boats going.
Mr. GILLETT. You mean they were not running the six boats last
year? w # ...A
Col. JADWIN. No, sir; that boat was really disposed of about a
year and a half or two years ago. *...
Mr. GILLETT. Was it disposed of because you did not need it or
was it because it was not fit to use? 3.
Jol. JADWIN. One of them was not fit to be used and had to be dis-
posed of, and we need the same sum for this year that we needed for
the current year. We have the same number of boats. The figure
“6” did not get changed to “5” when the appropriation was ad-
justed.
PATROL VESSEL “ LAMONT,” DYNAMO, NEW DECK. ETC.
t 9
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for the purchase and installation
of a new dynamo, electrical fittings, and a new deck on patrol vessel.
Lamont, including printing, binding, and blank books, $2,500.
What is the necessity for that? -
Col. JADw1N. The Lamont was built in 1895 and has been in con-
tinuous service for 19 years, and Capt. Dunn reports we need a new
dynamo and a new deck, and estimates it will cost $2,500.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a vessel is the Lamont?
Col. JADWIN. She has a gross tonnage of 206; she is 100 feet long
and 22 feet wide; built by Dialogue in 1895; has compound engines
and a Scotch boiler. . -
The CHAIRMAN. A tugboat?
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir.
PURCHASE OR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW PATROI, W ESSEL–II, LEGAL DU M PING.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For purchase or construction
of, one patrol vessel, including printing, binding, and blank books,
75,000” . -
$75, sº - g
Col. JADw1N. That item has been submitted for a number of years
to my knowledge, at any rate since the annual report of 1911. It
460 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
was carried at $65,000 until last year, and on account of the cost of
materials and the fact that the tugboats have to go out a little
farther to follow the dumping fleet the department came to the con-
clusion, after consideration of the recommendation of the super-
visor, that it would cost $75,000 to secure a suitable boat.
The CHAIRMAN. Everybody else says that they are getting boats
so much cheaper. For instance, they secured a lighthouse tender
for $250,000 that was estimated to cost $325,000.
Col. JADWIN. I would like to say a little more about that boat, if
I may, sir?
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Col. JADWIN (1.eading from the supervisor's report):
During the fiscal year 1890, 6,535,175 cubic yards of waste material was de-
posited near the mouth of the harl)01’, 2,822,548 cubic yards Was used for filling
behind bulkheads, and 353,418 cubic yards was ſleposited in Long Island Sound.
During the fiscal year ending June 30, 1914, 13.357,464 cubic yards was de-
posited at the moutly of the llarbor ; S.252,765 cubic yards was utilized for
filling behind bulkheads; 2.126,321 cubic yards was deposited in Hudson River,
Long Island and Fishers Island Sound; and 257.125 cubic yards of city garbage,
dead animals, etc., was deposited on shore at Barren Island for reduction.
The number of permits for the deposit of material issued during the fiscal
year ending June 30, 1914, was 11,336; the average number of tows daily to
sea was 23 ; and the average number of SCOWs daily to Sea was 46.
As shown by the foregoing statements, the total amount of material deposited
at the mouth of the harbor and in Long Island Sound combined since 1890 is
303,122,918 cubic yards, an amount more than the total excavations of the
Panama Canal. Considered as a tow, it would stretch out 58,000 miles, re-
quiring a quarter of a million tugs and a half million Scows to handle it. It
would build over 70 pyramids the size of CheopS.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the purpose of all this?
Col. JADw1N. I want to bring out the increased necessity for the
service, and show the conditions obtaining in the matter of this new
tugboat [reading] : + t
Dumped in the Ambrose Channel it would make a Speedway 20 feet Wide.
reaching from Ambrose lightship up the harbor and North River, around
Manhattan Island, and back to the lightship ; distance, 62% miles. Sunk off
Scotland lightship it would make an island 4,000 feet in circumference, average
height 240 feet above sea level. -
It is no exaggeration to say that the channels leading to the city of New
York would be blocked in a few months and the work of years undone should
the patrol fleet be withdrawn. The resulting loss of trade could be easily
imagined.
As you know, we have five tugboats there. One of them is used
largely around the city, making inspections near, the Wharves and
watching the loading of the boats. Four are used in keeping up a
constant service of two boats, one at the Narrows, and one at Scot-
land Lightship. Of those four boats, Capt. Dunn says there is
only one which is really efficient for outside duty and capable of
staying at sea for any extended duty. .
Mr. GILLETT. Are they there to watch and see that they dump in
the right places? e
Col. JApwis. Yes, sir; it is desirable that they should go out
whenever a tugboat can go out.
Mr. GILLETT. Can they take a tow out in rough Weather?
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir; they have to be able to follow them.
Mr. GILLETT. When a tow can go out?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 461
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir; that is true. The towboat men take a
chance and go in very rough weather. The supervisor says on
that subject: - -
In many instances these tows venture to sea when the weather conditions
are Such that to reach the point of deposit with their tow intact is merely a
chance; , but they take it, and, in the event of a mishap, must also take the
Consequences. I find, however, that such towboat masters are not always
wholly to be blamed, when it is taken into consideration that the importance
Of getting the empty dumpers back to the dredge for reloading in time to
CatCh the Inext tide has a vital effect on their employment, and that an idle
dredge is a prominent factor in the profit or loss to the contractor.
The department took up this matter very seriously, the question
of whether or not the efficiency there could be held or increased, and
economy effected at the same time.
We were not satisfied with the condition of the tugs and their
defects have been reported a number of times. On the other hand
We were not satisfied that it required four tugboats to maintain two
boats constantly at the Narrows and outside. That has been a mat-
ter of discussion between the supervisor’s office and the office of the
Chief of Engineers during the year.
Mr. GILLETT. Does the city of New York do anything toward this
watching? -
Col. JADWIN. No, sir. As a result of that discussion a plan was
formulated and has been reported by letter from the supervisior to
the Chief of Engineers. I should like to read you some extracts
from that report. -
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Col. JADWIN (reading):
The present organization of the patrol at the mouth of the harbor requires
four boats to operate two stations. This has been found necessary On a CCOunt
of the class of boats and the fact that three of the boats are $0 old that they
are constantly needing repairs, which requires so much time that the patrol
can barely be maintained with the four boats in question.
When the new patrol boat is provided it is proposed to operate the two Sta- .
tions, one at the Narrows and one outside, with three boats according to the
following scheme: One boat to stay on the inside station three days, then pro-
ceed to the outside station and stay three days, then return to the harbor and
remain off duty three days. The three boats will follow this routine in regu-
lar order, which will result in giving each boat six days' duty Out Of nine
days. Counting the time of proceeding and returning to station, this will give
the members of the crew 68 hours off duty and 148 lioul's Olı (luty ill line days,
or an average of a little over 16 hours' duty per day; Standing Watch alıd
watch it will average eight hours' work per day during a Cycle of nine days.
Mr. GILLETT. They have to be there day and night?
Col. JADWIN. Yes, sir. &
Mr. GILLETT. Why? Do the tugs work day and night? . .
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir; the tugs work day and night; it is a con-
stant Service. - * te &
Mr. GILLETT. How do they see them at night, with searchlights?
Col. JADw1N. The tugboats are required to have lights, but the
supervisor has to watch out more carefully when there is fog or
mist. . - te
Mr. GILLETT. Do they try to dodge him and empty the SCOWs
where they ought not to? - º
Col. JApwrn. Yes, sir. He has reported 200 cases for prosecution.
Mr. GILLETT. How many were convicted?
462 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Col. JADWIN. Since the enactment of the act of June 29, 1888, the
Supervisor had reported 200 cases of violations of law to the United
States district attorneys for prosecution. In 134 cases convictions
have either been obtained or compromises made with the offenders
satisfactory to the administrative officers; 40 cases have been nolle
prossed; 26 cases were pending at the close of the fiscal year.
... I have here a record of each of the 26 cases in the annual report,
if you care to see it. The saving of a tow means many dollars and
cents to the contractor.
The CHAIRMAN. Under the law the owner of the tugboat is held
liable for the dumping of a scow, regardless of who dumps it; is not
that the law Ż -
Col. JADWIN. The supervisor says:
1 find, however, that such towboat masters are not always wholly to be
blamed, when it is taken into consideration that the importance of getting the
empty dulmpel's back to the dredge for reloading in time to Catch the next tide
has a vital effect On their employment. g
NOTE (Office Chief of Engineers).--Penalties for illegal dumping in New York
Harbor and its adjacent waters are prescribed by the act of Congress approved
June 29, 1888 (vol. 25, Stat. L., p. 209), and the amendment thereto approved
May 28, 1908 (vol. 35, Stat. L., pp. 424, 426). Under the law owners, masters,
and employees of Scows and towboats are all liable for illegal dumping and the
proceedings instituted have sometimes included them all. In other instances
proceedings have been brought Only against One of them.
I should like to finish reading the extracts from the supervisor's
letter. . . - s
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Col. JADWIN (reading):
An extra fireman and two extra deck hands will be needed on each boat to
carry out this scheme.
With these three boats operating, a boat should be kept in reserve with a
reduced crew, to provide for a relief in case of repairs or accidents to the
other boats. One of the present boats could be disposed of and sold. The
Wigilant would still perform her duties in the inner harbor.
In order to carry out this scheme successfully three good Seaworthy boats
should eventually be furnished for the patrol service outside of the harbor.
One boat, the Cerberus, at present is in good Condition, and the SCheme outlined
above could be put in operation when a new boat is furnished. * * * The
idea in general being that three Seaworthy boats can do the work which four
are now doing and two of the present vessels could be sold or transferred to
Some other del)artment. * - *
The net result of this reorganization would be a considerable saving in the
personnel, supplies, and repairs.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1915.
MEDICAL DEPARTMENT.
STATEMENT OF BRIG, GEN. WILLIAM C. G.ORGAS, SURGEON GEN-
ERAL, UNITED STATES ARMY, ACCOMPANIED BY MR. B. B.
THOMPSON.
ARTIFICIAL LIMBS.
The CHAIRMAN. General, the first item in which you are inter-
ested is on page 237, “Artificial limbs: For furnishing artificial
limbs and apparatus, or commutation therefor, and necessary trans-
portation,” and the present appropriation is $275,000 and the esti-
mate is $95,000. This is for the small year?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 463
Mr. THOMPSON. This is for the second-class year. The claimants
are divided into three classes. The current year, 1915, is the large
year, and 1916 will be one of the two small years. h
The CIIAIRMAN. In 1914 you expended $74,000?
Gen. GoRGAs. Yes, sir. Every three years a man is entitled to a
new leg or commutation. That makes three years.
, The CHAIRMAN. The $95,000 estimate would be compared really
with 1913% -
Gen. GORGAs. Yes, sir. 4
The CHAIRMAN. How much was expended in 1913?
Gen. GoRGAs. Practically $102,000.
Mr. GILLETT. I should think that there would be more reduction
than that?
Gen. GoRGAs. It is beginning to come pretty rapidly now, but
every three years they are allowed commutation. Of course, the
large number got in the first year.
Mr. GILLETT. If you spent only $102,000 in 1913, I should think it
would not be $95,000 three years afterwards?
Gen. GORGAs. In 1913 we expended practically $102,000. -
Mr. THOMPSON. You gave us $115,000 in 1913, and we have
$275,000 to disburse this year. *
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any way by which you can tell the
number outstanding?
Mr. THOMPSON. We do not know definitely how many have died
since their last claim. -
(The statement submitted by Gen. Gorgas follows:)
ARTIFICIAI. T.I.MBS, 1916.
The rights of beneficiaries under the annual appropriations for artificial
limbs are derived from permanent laws (R. S. 4788, 4790, and 4791, and supple-
mentary statutes) and mature at intervals of three years. When these laws
Originally became effective the greater 1) unmber of the persons benefited at Once
made their claims good. The remainder did not come forward until the follow-
ing years. In consequence the claimants are divisible into three classes, one
large and two small, the latter two being not quite equal in number. The funds
required are therefore not comparable by successive years, but by the triennial
classes. Taking the last 10 years, for illustration, the first Or large class is
represented in the appropriation for 1906, 1909, 1912, and 1915. The appropria-
tions and expenditures under the head of artificial limbs for these years have
been as follows:
1906, appropriated, $425,000; expended, $406,778.95.
1909, appropriated, $400,000; expended, $353,997.34.
1912, appropriated, $330,000; expended, $293,393.68.
1915, appropriated, $275,000; expended, current.
The second largest class (much smaller than the preceding) came up in 1907,
1910, and 1913, and will next come up in 1916, for which estimates are now
under consideration. The appropriations and expenditures for 1907, 1910, and ,
1913, were as follows:
1907, appropriated, $145,000; expended, $134,919.94.
1910, appropriated, $132,000; expended, $118,862.66.
1913, appropriated, $115,000; expended. $101,741.69.
The estimate of $95,000 for 1916, it will be seen, is $20,000 less than the ap-
propriation made for this class when it last came up in 1913, and nearly $7,000
less than the amount actually expended for this class that year. The progress
of death is increasingly rapid among the old soldiers who are Chiefly benefited
by these laws. It is believed therefore that $95,000 will suffice to meet the
claims of those of the 1913 class who may survive until their claims next mature
in 1916, although near $102,000 was required for them in 1913. The number
of deaths being, however, wholly conjectural, a further reduction is considered
inadvisable, as it might leave the department with insufficient funds to meet
that portion of the claims maturing late in the year, thus causing delay in their
464 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Settlement and engendering complaints from the old soldiers concerned, who
count their commutation money as a part of their assured income. -
The third ºld smaljest class of beneficiaries is represented in the appropria-
iians for 1908, 1911, and 1914, as follows: # -
1908, appropriated, $120,000; expended, $100,305.53.
1911, appropriated, $105,000; expended, $89,318.59.
1914, appropriated, $85,000; expended, $74,177.
The expenditules for 1914 were thus $20,000 less than the estimate for 1916;
but, as hereinabove shown, it is not the 1914 class which comes up in 1916, and
the amount that sufficed for the 1914 class has no relevancy to the amount
needed for the 1916 class.
The itemized table appended, as required by law to the estimates for 1916, is
Only approximate. It is, of course, impossible to forecast with any certainty
how many of these beneficiairies will take limbs in kind (necessitating the em-
ployment of physicians to test the adjustment and fit thereof, and in some cases
the claimant’s transportation to and from the makers) and how many will exer-
cise their election to take Commutation. Judging by past experience, however,
most of them will take commutation in about the proportion estimated in the
table. .
No persons are employed under this appropriation except examining surgeons
On a fee basis. -
AIPIPLIANCES FOR DISARLED SOLDIERS. *
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “Appliances for disabled sol-
diers,” and the appropriation is $1,500, and your estimate for the next
fiscal year is $1,500.
Gen. GoRGAs. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. This is a gratuity. Does the law authorize this?
Mr. THOMPSON. Only the appropriation bill. There is no other
law for it, except the annual appropriation by Congress.
The CHAIRMAN. This appropriation is for men who would not
come within the provision of the law authorizing artificial limbs, but
who get some kind of an appliance or apparatus?
Mr. THOMPson. Yes, sir; an artificial eve or a silk stocking for
2 2 ta
varicose veins, for example. f s
(The statement submitted by Gen. Gorgas follows:)
A PIPI, [A N ('ES FOR DISA (; LEI) SO LI) IERS. 1 () 1 (3.
Claimants for appliances, as distinguished from those for artificial limbs.
apparatus for resection and trusses, derive their rights from the annual appro-
priations under this head alone, not from permanent law.
The expenditures for three years past have run under $1,000 per year. Pre-
vious to that they were somewhat larger, as shown in the appended table.
Since there is no way to make sure what the demands will actually be during
1916, it has seemed better to ask for $1,500 in order to have a margin of a
few hundred dollars to meet an unexpected increase Of claims should such be
presented. *
Appropriation. Expended.
Year Amount Appliances Fees Total
--- { & # * Iſl kind e 2 & ºt * .
1907. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,000.00 $949. 39 $294.00 $1,243.39
1908. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 1,079.01 234. 00 1,313.01
1909. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 1, 150.06 321.00 1,471. 06
1910. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 1, 004. 53 207. 00 1,211. 53
191]. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - 2,000.00 S62. 10 102.00 1,054, 10
1912. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 775.82 192. ()0 967.82
1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 683. 22 198. ()0 881. 22
1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000.00 738.99 168, 00 906. 90
1915. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 50(), ()0 Current. Current. Curren [.
No persons are employed under this appropriation except axamining surgeons on a ſee basis.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. • 465
TRUSSES FOR DISABLED soldiers.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Trusses for disabled soldiers,”
and the appropriation is $3,500, and your estimate is $3,000. In
1914 you expended $2,007.49. How much has been spent up to this
time—the first six months of this fiscal year?
Mr. THOMPSON. I have not that information, but we could furnish
it. It probably runs along at the same rate.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement of how much
was spent up to the 1st of January, 1915.
Gen. GORGAs. Yes, sir; it has been slowly decreasing.
(The statement submitted by Gen. Gorgas follows:)
TRUSSES FOR DISABLED SOLDIERS, 1916.
The rights of beneficiaries under the annual appropriations for trusses are
based on permanent law (Sections 1176 and 1177, Revised Statutes, and the
amendatory act Mar. 3, 1879), and are not contingent on the appropriations.
Most of the claimants under these laws are veterans of the Civil War, and
their numbers are being rapidly diminished by death. The appropriations have
been diminished in a correpsonding ràtio from $6 000 for 1910 to $3.500 for
1915. The actual expenditures for 1914 were only a little over $2,000, and
possibly $2.500 would suffice for 1916, but the estimate is in the amount $3,000
(which is $500 less than the appropriation for the current year) so as to
allow a margin for a possible accession of new claims. &
The following table exhibits the expenditures under this head since the pres-
ent system of making the appropriations annually upon the basis of annual esti-
mates was inaugurated by the act of May 27, 190S :
Appropriation. Expended.
Yoar. - Amount. Tº: in Fees. } Total.
1910---------------- ------------------------------------ $6,000.00 $2,300. 76 $1,494.00 $3,794.76
1911. --------------------------------------------------- 6,000.00 2, 111.70 1,386.00 3,497. 70
1912. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------- 5,000.00 1,772.47 | 1,137.00 2,900. 47
1913---------------------------------------------------- 5,000.00 1,572.80 990. 00 2,562.80
1914---------------------------------------------------- 4,000.00 1,266.49 741. 00 2,007. 49
1915. ----------- * = < * * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3,500.00 Current. Current. 1 Current.

1 Expended up to December 31, 1914 (including outstanding obligations), $881.41.
No persons are employed under this appropriation except examining surgeons on a fee
basis.
PROVIDENCE HOSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Support and medical treat-
ment of destitute patients: For the support and medical treat-
ment of medical and surgical patients who are destitute, in the
city of Washington, under a contract to be made with the Providence
Hospital by the Surgeon General of the Army.”
Gen. GoRGAs. We just disburse that money.
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SATURDAY, JANUARY 9, 1915.
SURVEY OF NORTHERN AND NORTHWESTERN LARES.
COMPARISON WITEI COAST SURVEY.
[See p. 511.]
STATEMENTS OF COL. J. C. SANFORD, CORPS OF ENGINEERS, IN
CHARGE, AND LIEUT. COL, EDGAR. JADWIN, CORPS OF
ENGINEERS.
The CHAIRMAN (reading):
Survey of northern and northwestern lakes: For survey of northern and
northwestern lakes, Lake of the Woods, and other boundary and connecting
waters between said lake and Ilake Superior, Lake Champlain, and the natural
navigable waters embraced in the navigation system of the New York Cauals,
including all necessary expenses for preparing, Correcting, extending, printing,
binding, and issuing charts and bulletins, and of investigating lake levels with a
view to their regulation, to be immediately available and to remain available
until expended, $–. . .
The appropriation is $125,000 and your estimate is $175,000. What
has been done during the past year? wº
Col. SANFORD. During the fiscal year 1914?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Col. SANFORD. During the first half of the year we had five parties
out on the Great Lakes and one on the New York State canal system.
During the second half of the year we were forced to do away with
one of the parties on the Great Lakes but kept up the other parties,
and one party on the Great Lakes was sent out a little late in order
to come out on the money we had.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the situation of this survey'
Col. SANFORD. The survey is about 77 per cent completed as laid
down in the project of 1907. -
. The CHAIRMAN. That is to what depth? - -
Col. SANFORD. That is to a depth of 30 feet in the open Lakes and
25 feet in the harbors; that is, we investigate everything to that
depth.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is it estimated it will take to complete
the Lakes at this rate? g
Col. SANFORD. At this rate it will take until 1921, approximately;
inot beyond that. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the reason for requesting an increase of
$50,000? - -
Col. SANFORD. It is in order to do the work at the most economical
rate with the outfit we have for the purpose. We have five steamers,
three large ones and two small ones. To complete the work most eco-
nomically all of those vessels ought to be kept in commission all
through the working season of every year. -
The CHAIRMAN. What do you do now?
Col. SANFORD. Last year we only sent out four of the steamers in-
stead of five, and the fourth one was not out for the whole season.
The CI (AIRMAN. I thought you said you had five steamers at
work?
Col. SANFORD. No, sir; we own five.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 467.
The CHAIRMAN. What is done with the other vessel?
Col. SANFORD. The other vessel was laid up this last year.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you ever had the five vessels out?
Col. SANFORD, Yes, sir; the year before we did."
The CHAIRMAN: Why did you not have that vessel out last year?
Col. SANFORD. Last year we were not able to an account of lack
of funds. -
The CHAIRMAN. You had the same amount of money.
Col. SANFORD, Yes, sir; but the year before we started late in the
season and one part of that year was a short season. The appropria-
tion, I think, was late in passing. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask this appropriation to be made immedi-
ſº available and to remain available until expended; why is
that'ſ z •
Col. SANFORD. The reason for that is that we have about six
months of good weather on the Lakes for this kind of work, starting
in the Spring and ending in the fell, and the 1st of July comes right
in the middle of it. Now, if this money is not available beyond the
30th of June it is necessary to give to the head of each party instruc-
tions that he can only spend so much money until the end of June.
The rate at which he spends money depends a good deal on the con-
dition of the weather and various other conditions. Some of these
boats on certain Work can not work if the lake is rough—for instance,
on open-lake work—and the result is he has to trim his work and,
perhaps, stops before the 30th of June in order not to go beyond the
amount we have given him; or else he does not expend the full
amount of money and there is a surplus returned to the Treasury.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you have any unexpended balance in 1914?
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much 3 -
Col. SANFORD. It was less than $1,000. I think it was between $500
and $800, and nearer $500.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you have in 1913? -
Col. SANFORD. In 1913 it was not an annual appropriation. It was
available and we used it all.
The CHAIRMAN. Do We own these boats?
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. I would like to find out how many different govern-
mental agencies are engaged in Surveying on the Lakes.
Col. SANFORD. There is no other governmental agency that is en-
gaged in sounding work on the Lakes, surveying for charts for
mariners. All the other agencies go to the shores.
Mr. SHERLEY. Does not the Navy do some survey work there?
Col. SANFORD. No, sir; no survey work.
Mr. SHERLEY. Have they not done that work in the immediate .
ast?
p Col. SANFORD. I think they did a little of it a good many years ago,
but an arrangement” was made to prevent duplication of work,
1 The arrangement referred to is the agreement of December, 1909, between the
War and Navy Departments specifying inter alia, that “he Hydrographic Office has on
the Great Iakes the dirty " * * of surveying and charting Canadian waters,” and
that “it is the duty of the United States Lake Survey to survey all waters on the United
States side of the international boundary as well as Such limited areas on the Canadian
side of the connecting rivers and their approaches are are required to enable the result-
ing charts to fulfill their main purpose * * * it being understood that whenever
necessary to preserve the integrity of the charts and to enable them to attain their full
hºness, they should also embody contiguous and related Canadian waters and shore
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whereby the Navy Department should do no more surveying and the
Engineer Department should do it all on the Lakes.
Mr. SHERLEY. In what particular does your work differ from work
that the Coast and Geodetic people do on the ocean?
Col. SANFORD. It is very similar.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is it not identical?
Col. SANFORD. Practically so. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. What reason is there for having two services doing
the Same sort of work and dividing their jurisdictions one on the
Great Lakes and the other on the sea? - -
Col. SANFORD. There is one good reason for retaining it under the
Chief of Engineers. These charts of ours are revised and corrected to
date to show all changes both in aids to navigation and in harbor
improvement work. Now the Chief of Engineers has control of all
the harbor improvement work on the Lakes, and the district officers
in charge of all these harbor improvement Works have instructions
monthly to inform the Lake Survey of any changes in their districts
in the way of works being constructed or finished or obstructions to
navigation reported, such as Wrecks, etc., and we get those things and
put them on the charts at once. .
Mr. SHERLEY. That could still be done if another governmental
agency was doing that work? -
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir; but this keeps the whole thing under one
head, under the Chief of Engineers. r
Mr. SHERLEY. I have no opinion on it, but I am constantly struck
with the fact that we have several agencies doing the same sort of
work. There may be some reasons for it, but offhand it strikes one
as a little curious. • \
Col. JADw1N. We furnish approximately that same information
about the coast harbors to the Coast and Geodetic Survey, and it
does not require an extra bureau for us to take care of this lake-
survey work. It takes altogether probably less than the time of one
man in Washington to do everything that is done here in reference
to this work. Our bureau chief has charge of it as an incident to his
other work, so that the Washington overhead expense is very insig-
nificant for the lake-survey work.
Mr. SHERLEY. You spoke of this work being finished in 1921.
Have you any estimate as to cost as well as to time?
Col. SANFöRD. Yes, sir; the original estimated cost was $125,000
per year for 12 years from 1907. Since that time the Congress has
added to our work this survey of the natural waters of the New
York State canal system, which is estimated to cost about $90,000.
They have also put the surveying and charting of Lake Champlain
under our charge, which will cost, as far as we can see now, about
$60,000. In the last act they have added the Lake of the Woods and
other boundary and connecting waters between that lake and Lake
Superior. We have made no project or estimate for that, but it will
add somewhat to the total cost. - gº
Mr. SHERLEy. Do you use a drag in determining depth? tº - e.
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir; we use a long wire rope, half a mile in
length or even greater at times. -
Čol. JADw1N. That was devised and developed by the lake survey
and subsequently adopted by the other Service.
Mr. SHERLEY. How long ago? -
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1% SANFORD. The use of it on the Lakes began about 1906 or
Mr. SHERLEY. Is it going to be necessary to use the drag over all
the area that you had previously surveyed and thought completed? .
Col. SANFORD. Not over all of it; no, sir. The original surveys
were for 12-foot navigation, and they carefully developed all shoals
there was any possibility of vessels drawing 12 feet striking; that
is, they developed them down to perhaps 15 feet. Now we develop
them down to 30 feet. It is only in areas between 15 and 30 feet
that reinvestigations are required. r -
Mr. SHERLEY. A drag to 30 feet would do everything that a drag
to 12 feet would do, and more, too, would it not? I do not know
that I quite understand you. - - .
Col. JADWIN. You do not run it over an area you already know
is less than 12 feet. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand. Naturally, if there is not 12 feet of
Water there is no use inquiring whether there is 30 feet of water.
Col. SANFORD. There have been a great many shoals found in our
Surveys and others reported and found in our surveys between those
depths that vessels have either struck or would be in danger of
striking.
Mr. SHERLEY. On lake like, for instance, Lake St. Clair, do you
º º, shifting of depth due to the currents and to the piling up
OT S3 Il Ci : -
Col. SANFORD. There is some shifting in Lake St. Clair. We made
a survey this last fall that showed some changes in the dredged
channel that went into the St. Clair Flats Canal; also at the mouth
of the Niagara River there is a certain amount of shifting sand.
The CHAIRMAN. Colonel, when was this agreement about this work
reached between the Navy Department and the War Department?
Col. JADw1N. We can furnish you a copy of that agreement if
you want it. It must have been about five or six years ago.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you send us a copy of that agreement?
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir. They still keep authority in their appro-
priations to do the lake work, but I do not think they are spending
any money for surveying there at all. They do recruiting there,
and distribute hydrographic office publications and some other in-
formation to mariners.
Col. SANFORD. We furnish the hydrographic office on the Lakes
all the information we get.
As to the need of increasing the appropriation, the work on the
New York State canals has been proceeding at the same rate with
the regular work on the Great Lakes which would enable its comple-
tion in the year 1921; but I have a letter from the State engineer in
New York saying that both the Champlain, Oswego, and main line
of the New York State Barge Canal will be completed in 1916. In
order that the charts we are getting out—there is one of them of
Oneida Lake—shall be of service to the people using the canal as
soon as it is opened or soon after, it will be necessary to do that work
1 In 1893–1895 a submarine sweeping apparatus in which the submerged sweeping
bar was formed of gas pipe was constructed unſter a lake-survey appropriation and
used for tho examination of shoal areas in the St. Lawrence River. In 1902 the survey
° introduced in its work on the same river the lighter and more convenient form of sweep
now in use, in which the submerged gas-pipe bar is replaced by a wire or small wire
fºnder tension. The use of the sweep in lake-survey work was greatly extended
in . .
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with greater rapidity than we are now doing it, otherwise it will be
Some years before they will have any charts. This last year we
have been surveying Seneca and Cayuga Lakes and will complete
that work next year. This survey of Oneida Lake has been of great
importance, as We developed a number of shoals in that lake which
will make it necessary to have a broken sailing course in the lake
instead of a straight course as originally proposed, and will assist
in Setting up range lights to show these courses. Now, the State
engineer is anxious to get the other lakes and rivers finished up as
soon as we can consistently do the work, or about as soon as the canal
is opened. “The shore line is about 8,345 miles in length, and of
this the American line is 4,700 miles. As a basis of comparison, the
total shore line of the Atlantic, Pacific, and Mexican seaboards
of the United States, excluding Alaska and all islands, is stated in
Senate Document No. 74, Fifty-third Congress, second session, to be
5,705 miles long.” * e
In other words, the American shore line of lakes is 4,700 miles
and the total seaboard of the United States is 5,705 miles.
The CHAIRMAN. What territory does your work cover?
Col. SANFORD. From the Canadian line, on the St. Lawrence, to
the head of Lake Superior and to the head of Lake Michigan.
The CHAIRMAN. How far out from the shore line?
Col. SANFORD. Part of our work covers deep-sea soundings on
lines right across the lake. The sweeping that Mr. Sherley was
speaking about goes out to a depth of 11 fathoms.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you chart all these Waters and keep them
right up to date? * R .
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a force have you all told?
Col. SANFORD. In the winter time about 60, and in the summer
over double that.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you do anything besides sweep the Lakes?
Do you do any survey work on land?
Col. SANFORD. No, sir; only within half a mile of the shore line.
The purpose of that is to develop the shore line as seen by navigators.
The CHAIRMAN. You do survey to locate objects on shore?
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir; within half a mile. *
The CHAIRMAN. How many men did you have engaged on that
work? x
Col. SANFORD. On pages 225 and 226, in the book of estimates, is
a statement giving the employees for both years—1916 and 1914.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is your field data worked up in the field and then
sent here to Washington for map making, or what is your plan?
Col. SANFORD. Is is only worked up roughly in the field for use
as they go along, and then it is Worked up in the winter time at
JDetroit. .
Mr. SHERLEY. What I want to find out is how much of an office
force, so to speak, as contradistinguished from a field force, have
you in connection with your work, and have you any method by
which you can measure, if it be proper to use the term, the unit cost
of your work? The reason I am asking that is that I may have a
comparison with some of the work being done by other departments.
Col. SANFORD. The winter force as compared with the summer
force on the same work is the first part of your question? -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 471
Mr. SHERLEY. Not necessarily. What I had in mind, there is a
certain amount of work done in the field, and then it is requisite to
take that data obtained in that way and put it on maps to make it
available. Now you have a certain administrative force that runs
the whole corps, and then you have in the corps certain men that do
your mapping, making available the data of your field force, and I
am trying to get a mental picture of your organization So as to be
able to compare it with a corresponding organization in the Coast
and Geodetic work. - -
Col. SANFORD. These large parties in the field that do the heavy
work, do all that Sweeping work we were speaking about, make all
the coast charts; those are composed of about 20 men in the summer,
and in the wintertime about four or five of those men are retained
who work up the notes of the summer's work and prepare the maps
for printing. Then we have a printing and chart department, so,
called, which which engraves the charts and prints them.
Mr. SHERLEY. Having five vessels at sea, you must have more than
20 men. I do not mean simply 20 men engaged in the scientific end
of it, but your field force with five vessels must certainly be greater
than 20 men.
Col. SANFORD, Yes, sir; I spoke of 20 as a full party on one of the
large steamers and we have three large steamers, which would make
a total of 60, and we have about half that number on the two smaller
vessels, which would make a total of about 80 men.
Mr. SHERLEY. Then you have about 80 men in the field in the
summer time? t
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir; on the Great Lakes proper; and we retain
four or five of the men from each of the large parties and about two
from the smaller parties, or about 23 altogether. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What force in addition to that have you, either in
Detroit or in Washington, in connection with this work or any
branch of the work? ^.
Col. SANFORD. We have the chart department in Detroit which has
to do with the engraving of these charts, after the drawings are pre-
pared, and the printing, and which also corrects the charts from in-
formation received, such as I spoke to you about. We never issue a
chart without pen corrections showing the very latest things brought
in to use. That department is composed of about 30 men.
Mr. SHERLEY. I asked you a moment ago whether it was possible
to give any idea of unit cost. I do not know whether that is possible
or not.
Col. SANFORD. We have made that up in the form of a statement,
as follows: -
STATEMENT OF UNIT COSTS.
[Appropriation—Survey of northern and northwestern lakes.]
Field Work : -
Sounding, per Square mile-------------------------- $26.30
Sweeping, per Square mile-------------------------- 47. 50
(NOTE.-The above costs, which are averages de-
rived for the SeaSOns of 1913 and 1914, do not in-
clude Supervision nor the office reduction and com-
pilation of field data, but do include proportionate
shares of the entire cost of operation of the parties
in the field and the maintenance, repairs, and care
472 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Field Work—COntinued. - ..
of floating plant during the closed season. The
rates of progress on hydrography and topography,
and hence the unit costs, vary greatly, depending
Somewhat upon weather conditions, but more particu-
larly upon the character of the water and land areas.
to be surveyed. The greater portion of the sweeping
that is being done on the Great lakes is in exposed
locations and in Shoal water where the bottom is
extremely ragged, thus making operations difficult
and expensive.)
Topography.—(NOTE.-The topography executed by
the Lake Survey is for the most part incident to
the hydrographic operations and is obtained by the
hydrographic parties when weather conditions pre-
vent work in the Open lake. The area covered is
about one-half mile in width, immediately adjacent
to the shore line, and the purpose is to obtain in-
formation sufficient to enable the navigator to
identify his position easily and quickly even when
a stranger to the locality. The work must there-
fore be done with special care and accuracy. For
that reason, and also because of the necessity of *
suspending or resuming operations on short notice
in order take advantage of the weather conditions
Controlling the hydrographic Surveys, it is found
impracticable to furnish at the present time a state-
ment of the unit cost of topography which will
afford a fair comparison with the cost of other
Work.
Operation of 3 large steamers on hydrographic sur-
veys, each, per day (for full field season, including
Sundays and holidays) ---- *- - - –––– $78. 30
Operation of steamer on hydraulics, per day (for full -
field reason, including Sundays and holidays) ---- 39. 10
Operation of steamer on magnetics, per day (for full -
field Season, including Sundays and holidayS) ----- 36.80
(NOTE.-The daily costs of operating Steamer
parties do not include supervision, nor office re-
ductions during the winter season. The values
given are derived by dividing the net Operating
costs of the field parties plus the maintenance, re-
pairs, and care of floating plant during the winter
season by the number of days the parties are in
the field.)
Operation of party on hydrography (including Super-
vision and Winter Office work), per year----------- 19,667.00
Operation of party on hydraulics (including Super-
vision and winter office work), per year----------- 9, 500.00
Operation of party on magnetics (including SuperWi-
Sion and winter office work), per year------------ S, 500.00
Operation of party on triangulation (including Super-
vision and winter office work), per year----------- 12, 000. O0
Operation of party on New York canals survey (in- -
cluding supervision and winter office work), per
yea I –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––-------- 10,000. 00–12, 000. 00
‘ChartS : º o
Engraving and construction of new coast Chart------ 1,400.00–3, 500.00
Engraving and construction of new harbor Chart---- 500.00–1, 500. 00
Revision to standards of both water level and pro- l
jection and preparation for new º 300. 00–1, 500. 00
Revision to standard projection and preparation for - -
new edition-------------------- 100, 00–600. 00
Correction of engravingS and preparation for new edi-
tion, maintenance of chart series, average COSt per
edition, in 1914 (varying from $46 to $616) ------- 158. 00
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 473
LAKE SURVEY ORGANIZATION.
Office force (including district engineer officer, principal assistant engineer,
assistant and junior engineers, clerks, engravers, lithographers, etc.).---- 38
This force is increased in winter by about 23 technical employees from
the field force, making total office force during winter months about 61.
Field force (including engineers, surveymen, crews of steamers, and labor-
ers; the majority are employed only during the field season, which ex-
tends from about May 1 to about Nov. 15. About 23 of the technical em-
ployees are retained during the winter months to assist the office force in
, the reduction of field notes, etc. The masters and engineers of steamers
are employed during 11 months of each year) t 96
Gage observers (employed during entire year) –e 9
Fort Wayne depot (care and repairing plant and equipment, etc.; employed
during entire year) –– 1
Employed during early spring months (about) - -------- 5
(NOTE.—The greatest number of employees in the Lake Survey force at -
any time during the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914, was about 144.)
The composition of field parties is approximately as follows: -
Hydrography, each party - — — —y - - - 21
Hydraulics, or harbor surveys, each party - - - - 10
Magnetics and deep-sea soundings, each party . - 16
Triangulation, each party____ - * 13
Survey of New York canals, each party - 12
The CHAIRMAN. Hoy large are your vessels?
Col. SANFORD. The longest one is 160 feet in length and the next
about 120, and the third 100, and the two little ones is only about
70 feet in length. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Is the character of your work such that when you
complete this surveying the work is finished, or is it constantly re-
quired to be done over because of changing conditions? , ,
Col. SANFORD. The bulk of it is done when we finish it; that is, all
the deep-sea soundings, all the magnetic work, all the shore topog-
raphy and the sweeping work; except that in minor details, such as
shore topography and improvement of harbors and things like that
there are changes. e - -
Mr. SHERLEY. In the wintertime your vessels are not used at all ?
Col. SANFORD. No, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. They are just tied up?
Col. SANFORD. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. Are the large vessels large enough for seagoing pur-
OSGS 4
p Col. SANFORD. One of them was used by the Navy as a dispatch
boat during the Spanish War. She is a 160-foot steam yacht.
Col. JADw1N. Mr. Chairman, you asked how far out into the lake
we went. Here [indicating] is quite shallow water, and we had to
sound clear across in this lake [indicating]. It is deep out there
[indicating on another map where soundings were shown only near
the shore]. . -
The CHAIRMAN. What I had in mind was whether you had the
same conditions that they have along the coast. That survey work is
necessary because new bars are continually forming? -
Col. JADw1N. Yes, sir. Of course, ocean-coast parties go out in
deeper water than we do, because there are deeper draft vessels in
the ocean than in the lakes.
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WEBNEspax, JANUARY 13, 1915.
NATIONAL HOME FOR DISABLED volunTEER
SOLDIERS.
CENTRAL BRANCH, DAYTON, OHIO.
STATEMENTS OF COL. FRED J. CLOSE, PRESIDENT, AND MIAJ.
MOSES HARRIS, GENERAL TREASURER. , 4
CURRENT EXPENSEs.
The CHAIRMAN. Central Branch, Dayton, Ohio, current expenses,
the appropriation is $61,000, and your estimate is $61,000.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, Mr. Chairman. I call your attention to the
fact that these estimates were forwarded in September last, and
there have been changes both due to war conditions in Europe
and conditions in the homes incidental to business depression, etc.,
that makes it necessary for us to ask some changes without increas-
ing the total amount. The $61,000 estimate for current expenses,
Central Branch, is correct. . . .
The CHAIRMAN. How many men have you had there?
º HARRIs. We have at the Central Branch in the neighborhood
of 3,000.
... The CHAIRMAN. How has the number compared this year with
former years? - - N. .
Maj. HARRIs. We are taking care of about 417 members more at
this time in all the homes than last year on the same date.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the total for all the homes?
... Maj. HARRIs. The average present December 31, 1913, was 1,808,
and the total present December 31, 1914, was 17,591.
The CHAIRMAN. And in the Central Branch?
Maj. HARRIs. In the Central Branch they had 3,091 this year.
COMPLA [NTS A BOUT FOO}). Q
The CHAIRMAN. Have you had any complaints during the past
year about the character of the ration?
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir. sº
The CHAIRMAN. You know at various times the question has
arisen that the food provided for the members of the homes was
either inadequate in quantity or deficient in quality. You will re-
member we had some discussion about that.
Maj. HARRIs. I think now any such condition that may have ex-
isted in the past has been entirely corrected. It is always easy to
find somebody in a home of 18,000 members that will be dissatisfied,
but there are very few complaints and they are not well founded.
Any complaints thaf, have been received have been investigated and
have been generally found to be without any foundation in fact.
suBSISTENCE. .
The CHAIRMAN. For subsistence, the appropriation is $250,000,
and you are asking $270,000. .
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Maj. HARRIS. We propose to reduce that to $250,000, the same as
it is this year. * -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking some modification in the phrase-
ology of this provision? .
Maj. HARRIs. Yes; we have changed the word “rations” to food
supplies, because we have no regular ration, and the use of the term
“ration ” is misleading and not correct, and it is changed in the
interest of accuracy. It does not change the facts at all, but simply
substitutes the words “food supplies” for “regular rations,” as there
is no regular ration. There is a special diet for the sick, special
articles like malted milk and beef extracts that are not furnished
regularly. -
EIOUSEEIOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. Household: For furniture and officers’ quarters,
etc., the appropriation is $110,000, and your estimate is $105,000.
Maj. HARRIS. That is a reduction of $5,000 from the 1915 estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you use at this home for fuel, coal?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes. -
* The CHAIRMAN. How is that purchased?
Maj. HARRIS. By contract under the British thermal-unit system.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you ever have your coal analyzed by the Bu-
reau of Mines? -
Maj. HARRIs. Samples of all deliveries are analyzed by the Bureau
of Mines. -
The CHAIRMAN. And the deliveries must come up to a certain
standard?
Maj. HARRIs. There is a penalty attached to the contract of certain
deductions for failure to come up to the specifications of their agree-
ment. & -
. EIOSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. For the hospital the appropriation is $70,000,
and your estimate is $72,000.
Maj. HARRIS. It is increased to $72,000 because, while they have
kept within their appropriation, it has been difficult for them to do so.
and the larger number of men requiring treatment in the hospital
demands some slight increase.
* The CHAIRMAN. How many men were in the hospital last year?
Maj. HARRIs. The central branch had in the hospital on December
31 last year 483 members, and they have now 485, which is an in-
crease of only two members; but we have at the central branch out.
door provision for the treatment of tuberculosis, and it is not advis
able to stint them in their treatment of those cases. It is thought
they should have $2,000 more this year, and I think it will be prop-
erly spent. This is our largest and most important hospital.
TRANSPORTATION.
The CHAIRMAN. Transportation: The appropriation is $1,000, and
you are asking for $1,200. - -
Maj. HARRIs. We are asking for $200 more. We ran short in
transportation this year and will have a deficiency of probably $200.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you had $1,500. . . . . .
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. i
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REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. Repairs: For pay of chief engineer, builders,
blackSmiths, carpenters, etc., the appropriation is $57,000, and you
are asking for $54,000. -
Maj. HARRIs. We have reduced that $3,000. | " :
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give a statement of the area of this home
2nd the valuation of the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. Five hundred and seventy-eight acres.
The CHAIRMAN. And the valuation?
Maj. HARRIs. The valuation of the land is $202,464.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the buildings alone?
Maj. HARRIs. The land without the buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. And the buildings? -
Maj. HARRIs. The appraised value of the buildings is $1,137,775. .
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to insert the words “and walks”
after “repairs of roads”? " .
Maj. HARRIs. That is for the purpose of making the appropriation
“Repairs” available for the repair of walks. it is not distinctly
so available.
The CHAIRMAN. What have you done hitherto?
Maj. HARRIs. We have done that work under the “farm' appro-
priation, but there is no reason why we should take it from the farm
appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. What reason is there to change it? The farm is
really an upkeep item in most of these cases.
Maj. HARRIs. There seems to be no reason why repairs should be
Authorized under this item for roads and not for walks. It simply
gives rise to controversy.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not drop out of the “farm * item “con-
struction of roads and walks”? - . . .
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir. That provides for the construction, but not
the repair. It is a little indefinite as to which appropriation should
be used.
FARM.
The CHAniMAN. The “farm" appropriation is $23,000 and your
estimate is the same? tº . - •
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; that is the same. We will have nothing
to turn in. - * & º
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to include the words “and grain
products”? º ºp e g
Maj. HARRIs. That is to include the different products which they
procure for feed for the animals. &
The CIAIRMAN. Has there been any trouble? Why is the change
suggested? te e - -
Maj. HARRIs. There are certain grain products which they use
for dairy feeding. e † tº
The CHAIRMAN. Do they raise anything on this farm'. -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; at the central branch they raise corn, and
put a large portion of the land into alfalfa for feed for the dairy
COWS. .
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NORTHWESTERN BRANCH, MILWAUKEE, wrs.
CURRENT EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Norwestern Branch, Milwau-
kee, Wis.; For current expenses,” and the appropriation is $45,000,
and your estimate is $45,000.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many members did you have at this home?
Maj. HARRIS. On December 31 last there were 1,601 present. On
the same date last year there were 1,580.
SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. “For subsistence,” the appropriation is $125,000,
and your estimate is $147,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. They will have a deficiency this year of
$5,000. We have now made the estimate $140,000 instead of $147,000
as estimated.
, º CHAIRMAN. That is due to a larger number than you antici-
pated? . -
Maj. HARRIs. Not especially so. It is due to the high prices and
also to the larger number. The average present on December 31
was 1,592 this year as against 1,586 last year at the same period.
The prices are higher.
HOUSEHOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. “For household,” the appropriation is $63,000,
and your estimate is $58,000? ©
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. That is about what you spent in 1914?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; we spent $58,810 in 1914.
IFOSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For hospital,” and the appro-
priation is $43,000, and your estimate is $45,000? f
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many members are there in the hospital
at this home?
Maj. HARRIs. There were 284 on December 31 and 271 on the same
date a year ago. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you notice any perceptible increase in the
number of members in the hospitals?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; I think they are all requiring more medical
treatment, and when we do not have them in the hospitals they are
put in convalescent barracks where they receive the attention of the
surgeons every day. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why will you need more money for the hospital
next year? In 1914 you spent about $41,700. -
Maj. HARRIs. The members are all getting older, and they run
very close every year. They have been compelled to do without
certain things on account of the insufficiency of the appropriation.
It was thought that they should be allowed a little more. I think
it would be money well spent. *
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The CHAIRMAN. Is this expected to give a little more latitude for
the diet? e
Maj. HARRIs. Chiefly for hospital appliances; not only for medi-
cines but for instruments and appliances—the equipment of the op-
erating room and things of that kind. *
TRANSPORTATION.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For transportation,” and the
appropriation is $800, and you are asking $1,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; we change that back to $800 now. It is
very difficult to tell just how much transportation will be required,
but from the present indications they will get through with the pres-
ent appropriation.
REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For repairs,” and the appro-
priation is $34,000, and your estimate is $34,000? ; ,
Maj. HARRIs. We leave that at $34,000. We will have nothing
to turnºn. That is an old branch which requires repairs constantly.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the area of this branch? º
Maj. HARRIs. Three hundred and eighty-two and one-fourth acres.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the valuation?
Maj. HARRIs. Appraised at $611,600.
The CHAIRMAN. The land? -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. It is near the city of Milwaukee and is
quite valuable.
The CIIAIRMAN. And the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. The buildings are appraised at $863,501.
TARM.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For farm,” and the appropria-
tion is $9,000 and your estimate is $9,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. It has been constantly at that figure for a
number of years.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you raise anything on this farm or is this an
npkeep item'
Maj. HARRIs. Practically nothing.
Col. CLOSE. Only grass and alfalfa.
CEMENT CUREI NG AND GUTTſSRS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For cement curbing and gut-
ters, $7,500?” e *
Maj. HARRIs. That is an old appropriation for which they have
asked for a number of years. They think they need it and we
brought it up for the action of the committee. It is an improvement
to prevent the roads washing out. It is in the interest of preserving
the roads and is an economical measure in that respect.
Col. CLOSE. That is very rolling ground.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is the road?
Col. CLOSE. There are several miles of road.
The CHAIRMAN. Roads all through the grounds?
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Col. CLOSE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. We had a full statement on that item last year?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
EASTERN BRANCH, TOGUS, ME.
CURRENT EXPENSES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Eastern Branch, Togus, Me. :
For current expenses,” and the appropriation is $44,000 and your
estimate is $44,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. We leave it at that amount. They will
require it. n
The CHAIRMAN. How many members do you have at this branch?
Maj. HARRIs. There were present on December 31, 1,320.
The CHAIRMAN. And a year ago?
Maj. HARRIs. 1,271 on the same date.
The CHAIRMAN. There has been a little increase over last year in
all the branches?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. Not quite all, but generally.
Col. CLOSE. The largest increase has been at the California Branch.
Maj. HARRIS. At the Central Branch there has been a decrease.
SURSISTENCE.
º
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For subsistence,” and the ap-
propriation is $110,000 and your estimate is $112,500?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. Leave it at that; they will need it all.
The CHAIRMAN. You will need all of that amount?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. We had to help them out this year from
the posthumous post fund money to get them through.
HOUSEHOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For household,” and the ap-
pºſion is $78,000, and your estimate for the next fiscal year is
370,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; leave it at $70,000. They require that
amount, I think.
The CHAIRMAN. This appropriation is for the materials used in
taking care of and operating the plant?
Maj. HARRIs. Heating and lighting are the two principal items,
and the water we also pay for at that branch.
EIOSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For hospital,” and the appro-
priation is $38,000, and your estimate is $38,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many members in the hospital?
Maj. HARRIs. On December 31 there were 325, and on December
31 last year there were 311.
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TRANSPORTATION.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For transportation,” and the
appropriation is $800 and your estimate is $800?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; we leave it at $800. -
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 there were $348.07 expended?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. **
The CHAIRMAN. Is this branch largely filled in the winter or
mostly in the summer months? 8.
Maj. HARRIs. The membership is much larger in the winter than
in the summer. All of the branches are filled more in the winter.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought they went to the warmer climates in the
winter?
Col. CLOSE. We can not accommodate them all.
Maj. HARRIs. Not to any great extent; but they go around a good
deal.
FEPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For repairs,” and the appro-
priation is $35,000 and your estimate is $30,000?
*Maj. HARRIs. Leave it at $30,000.
IT ARM.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For farm,” and the appropria-
tion is $17,000 and your estimate is $16,500. T)o you raise anything
here?
Maj. HARRIs. They raise a good deal of hay for their herd.
Col. CLOSE. They have a fine herd of cattle there.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you produce all your own milk?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. All that is used there?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
souTHERN BRANCH, HAMPTON, VA.
CURRENT EXPENSEs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Southern Branch, Hampton,
Va.; For current expenses,” and the appropriation is $46,000 and
your estimate is $46,000? e
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. e
The CHAIRMAN. How many members in the Southern Branch?
Maj. HARRIs. On December 31 last, there were 1,863 and last year
at the same date there were 1,797, a considerable increase.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the time of the year, December, when you
have the maximum number? &
Col. CLOSE. Along there, from there along until Spring. During
the summer the number usually falls of Some.
Maj. HARRIs. This time of the year all of the branches are at their
maximum. The next pension payment will come on the 4th of
March, and then a great many of them will go out. -
Col. Crose. They will go out them and during the summer.
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SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For subsistence,” and the ap-
propriation is $155,000 and your estimate is $160,000?
Maj. HARRIs. We change that to $155,000 now. They will get
through on their appropriation this year.
EIOUSEHOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For household,” and the ap-
propriation is $65,000 and your estimate is $65,000?
Maj. HARRIs. We have reduced that estimate to $63,000. They
will have a little left of this year's appropriation, perhaps a couple
of thousand dollars. -
The CHAIRMAN. $63,000 will be sufficient?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
E[OSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For hospital,” and the appro-
priation is $41,000 and your estimate is $43,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; we are asking for $2,000 more than they
had last year.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you need that amount?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; the needs of all the hospitals are increas-
ing somewhat. The average in the hospital at the Southern Branch
on December 31 was 236, and on December 31, a year ago, 229, an
increase of only 7.
The CHAIRMAN. You find as time goes on that the inmates need
more hospital care?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; they need more care, not only in the hos-
pital but out of the hospital.
Col. CLOSE. The average age is 74 years and over now.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they want to go to the hospital, or do they
want to stay out of the hospital?
Col. CLOSE. Some do and some do not.
Maj. HARRIs. They dislike to go to the hospital.
Col. CLOSE. They think that is the last place and they keep out
as long as they can.
The CHAIRMAN. As a rule, when they go to the hospital 'they
really need the treatment? -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. -
Col. CLOSE. They need close attention. I wish you gentlemen
could all go to the branches and go through the hospitals more than
you do. You would learn a whole lot about the way they are treated.
As a rule the majority of the people when they go to the branches
do not go to the hospital, but that is where they should go to see the
real necessities. -
- TRANSPORTATION.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For transportation,” and the
appropriation is $1,000, and your estimate is $1,200?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. They will run short on transportation
this year. There will be a deficiency of a couple of hundred dollars.
The CHAIRMAN. You think that you will need $1,200 next year?
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Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. For some reason they use a good deal of
£ransportation at this branch. *
The CHAIRMAN. Transportation is only issued once?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; except in cases where men are transferred on
Account of their health. -
Col. CLOSE. And where they have no pension or anything to pay
for it themselves. -
Maj. HARRIs. This appropriation also includes the transportation
of insane to the hospital in Washington, but that does not affect the
Southern Branch so much because it is not distant. It is quite a
drain upon the other branches which are more distant. .
The CHAIRMAN. Are you getting as many men who are entering
for the first time?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. A larger proportion than we have had in
the past.
The CHAIRMAN. Who previously had never gone into a home? -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; men who have stayed out just as long as
they could. They are men who are old and can not work any longer
and whose children have not been fortunate enough to accumulate.
Col. CLOSE. There are some who do not want to live with their
children and the children of some of them do not want them.
REPAIRs.
The CIIAIRMAN. For repairs the current appropriation is $44,000
and your estimate is $44,000. *
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir,
- FARM.
The CHAIRMAN. For the farm the current appropriation is $10,000
and your estimate is $10,000. Do you raise anything here?
Mrj. HARRIs. No, sir; nothing.
The CHAIRMAN. All of this is for upkeep?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the area?
Maj. HARRIs. The area is 85.36 acres.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the valuation?
Maj. IIARRIS. The appraised value is $256,080 for the land.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the value of the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. The value of the buildings is $1,324,440.99. That
branch, as you know, has been largely rebuilt, and you have been
making appropriations for it for a number of years. A
The CHAIRMAN. That is one of the branches that it was considered
you would retain even after the membership of the homes has been
largely reduced? t
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; I think so. That is valuable property, and
it is adjacent to another Government reservation, Fortress Monroe.
It will always be valuable.
SEA. WALL AND BACIK ITILLING.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For sea wall and back filling,
Johns Creek, $31,834.”
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Maj. HARRIs. We have had that before you for a number of years,
and the hearings of last year and of some years previous are pretty
full on that subject.
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING,
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For new administration build-
ing, $30,000.” That is the same item we have had before? f :
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; that is a part of the scheme for rebuilding
the home.
e The CHAIRMAN. Is that the last thing to be done in the rebuild-
Ing : ;
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The rest of it has been done? -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; these two items are all that remain.
WESTERN BRANCH, LEAVEN worTFI, KANs.
CURRENT EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. For current expenses at the Western Branch,
Leavenworth, Kans, the current appropriation is $48,500 and your
estimate is $48,500.
Maj. HARRIs. That is the same.
The CHAIRMAN. How many men are now in the Western Branch?
Maj. HARRIs. The Western Branch had on December 31 last 2,433
members, and on the corresponding date a year ago they had 2,342
members. They had an average increase in the number cared for
during the first half of this fiscal year over the corresponding first
half of the last fiscal year of 65.
SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. For subsistence the current appropriation is
$185,000 and your estimate is $190,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We now place it at $187,000. They will require that
amount. - -
HouseHold—USE of oil, FoR FUEL.
The CHAIRMAN. For household the current appropriation is
$95,000 and the estimate is $95,000. -
Maj. HARRIs. We will reduce that now to $90,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you burn oil here?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; we still burn oil there.
The CHAIRMAN. How much are you paying for it?
Col. CLOSE. There was a reduction on it this last year.
Maj. HARRIs. We expect to get it cheaper next year.
Col. CLOSE. It would cost a lost of money to change back to coal.
Maj. HARRIs. We are paying 2.35 cents, or a little over 2 cents.
The CHAIRMAN. Per gallon'
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the highest you have paid? .
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; I think that is cheaper than it was. It was
0.0273 cents. We have information now that it will not exceed 2
cents per gallon for this coming year,
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The CHAIRMAN. In view of the discussion that has taken place
at various time, have you given any consideration to the advisability
of continuing to burn oil, or substituting coal for it?
Maj. HARRIS. I think the same conditions that existed last year
exist now. It would require a large initial expenditure to be able
to use coal at all, and I think that, considering the facility with
which oil can be used and the economy of its use in a soldiers’ home,
it is to the advantage of the home to continue to use oil.
Col. CLOSE. It is fully as cheap.
Maj. HARRIs. If you will remember, the Bureau of Mines made a
report, which I think appears in the last hearing.
The CHAIRMAN. We had two reports, one from the Bureau of
Mines and one from the Quartermaster Department of the Army.
Maj. HARRIS. The conditions are now more favorable to the use
of oil than they were a year ago. &
E[OSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. For the hospital the current appropriation is
$50,000, and your estimate is $52,000.
Maj. HARRIs. That is a little increase, like the other, because we
think we need it.
The CHAIRMAN. How many members are in the hospital?
Maj. HARRIs. We had on December 31 last 350, and on the same
date a year ago they had 327.
TRANSPORTATION.
The CIIAIRMAN. For transportation the current appropriation is
$2,000, and your estimate is $2,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it the same.
REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs the current appropriation is $40,000,
and your estimate is $40,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We will leave it at $40,000.
The CIIAIRMAN. What is the area at this home?
Maj. HARRIs. They have 644.20 acres, and the appraised value of
it is $212,150.
The CIIAIRMAN. What is the value of the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. The appraised value of the buildings is $942,557.
FARM. ,
The CHAIRMAN. For the farm the current appropriation is $17,000,
and your estimate is $17,000.
Maj. HARRIs. There is no change there.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you raise anything on this farm'
Maj. HARRIs. They produce about half of the milk they use and
some vegetables. *
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PACIFIC BRANCH, SANTA MONICA, CAL.
CURRENT EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. For current expenses at the Pacific Branch, Santa
Monica, Cal., the current appropriation is $46,500, and the estimate
is $46,500. How many members are in the Pacific Branch?
Maj. HARRIS. The total present on December 31 last was 2,604,
and on the same date last year the membership was 2,486. There
has been a considerable increase there.
The CHAIRMAN. That was the largest increase?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that near the capacity of the home? -
Col. CLOSE. It is more than the capacity, and we have had to in-
close porches in order to accommodate them. •
Maj. HARRIs. You authorized iast year a combination dining hall
and kitchen at this Home. That does not afford much relief as to
barracks room, but it has been a relief to them in other respects.
SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. For subsistence the current appropriation is
$200,000, and your estimate is $202,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We want to increase that to $204,000. They have a
considerable deficiency this year, and they will need at least that.
That is a conservative estimate, considering the probable continued
membership. - -
Col. CLOSE. It does not decrease there in the summertime, as it does
in most other places.
The CHAIRMAN. They stay there, do they?
Col. CLOSE. Yes, sir.
Maj. HARRIs. They stay there the year around.
EIOUSEEIOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. For household, the current appropriation is
$59,000, and your estimate is $59,000. --
Maj. HARRIs. We are reducing that to $55,000. They will turn in
some money this year.
The CHAIRMAN. You will have some left over from the appropria-
tion of 1914? -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; about $4,000, as it is estimated now with
half the year gone.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that for this year or last year?
Maj. HARRIs. This year. Last year they used $59,665. They used
that in 1914. -
HOSPITALS.
The CHAIRMAN. For the hospital the current appropriation is
$51,000, and your estimate is $54,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We make that $52,000 now. From the way we got
along this year we think that will be sufficient.
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TRANSPORTATION.
The CHAIRMAN. For transportation the current appropriation is
$2,500, and your estimate is $2,500.
Maj. HARRIS. We leave that the same.
REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs the current appropriation is $54,000,
and your estimate is $48,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at $48,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You have made some extensive repairs here, have
you not?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. We had a special appropriation for repair-
ing the barracks this year, and they are getting into pretty good
shape as to repairs. They can get along nicely with $48,000.
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FARM.
The CHAIRMAN. For the farm the current appropriation is $12,000
and your estimate is $12,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it the same.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you raise anything here?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; they raise Some vegetables, and we hope to
raise more. We have a live quartermaster there who is taking an
interest in it, and we think they will make a good showing.
Col. CLOSE. They raise a good deal of fruit there.
Mr. MoRDELL. How large is the farm?
Maj. HARRIs. The total acreage there is 722.75 acres, and the ap-
praised value of it is $673,434. The appraised value of the buildings
is $1,007,119.
EQUIPMENT OF DINING HALL AND KITCHEN.
Now, Mr. Chairman, before finishing with that branch, I would
like to request that an item of this kind be inserted in the bill, in
the proper place, in order to enable us to use the money left over on
that appropriation o
The CHAIRMAN. You want a provision that the appropriation of
$16,000 made in the sundry civil act for 1915, for a combination
dining hall and kitchen, be available for the equipment of the
building.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. ©
The CHAIRMAN. Will you have enough money left over to permit
you to do that? & ge
Maj. HARRIs. We have let the contract for the construction of the
building, and it will leave about $1,600. That will not be enough
to equip it properly, but it will help us out.
The CHAIRMAN. How much will you have left?
Maj. HARRIs. About $1,600. I do not know the exact figures.
Col. Crose. The comptroller has held that we can not use it for
that purpose, as it was appropriated for another purpose. *
Maj. HARRIs. He held that the terms of the appropriation did not
warrant its expenditure for the equipment of the building.
Col. CLose. It will not do us much good without the equipment.
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Maj. HARRIS. The appropriation under subsistence is available for
the Sort of equipment we need, but unfortunately we have no money
under that head.
QUARTERS FOR BANDMASTER.
sº CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For quarters for bandmaster.
~2 95.
Maj. HARRIS. Well, I do not think we will have anything to say
in support of that.
The CHAIRMAN. If you have nothing to say in support of it, you.
ought to withdraw it.
Col. CLOSE. They are anxious to have it out there.
The CHAIRMAN. This is to provide a house for him?
Col. CLOSE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Where does he live now %
Maj. HARRIS. I think he is living in a little shack that is available,
or something of the kind. We really do not furnish these quarters,
and your committee has never authorized an appropriation for that
purpose.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you furnished them at other homes?
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; never, except as there may be a building
available. At some of the branches there have been some buildings
on the property when we acquired it, and we have used those build-
ings as quarters for civilians, but we have never built any quarters
for bandmasters.
Col. CLOSE. I think it would be really setting a bad precedent.
The others would want it the same way, and I would not advise the
appropriation myself.
MARION BRANCH, MARION, IND.
CURRENT EXPEN SES.
Mr. RAUCH. The next item is for the Marion Branch, at Marion,
Ind. For current expenses the appropriation is $42,000, and your
estimate is $42,000?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
Mr. RAUCH. You will need all of that?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; I think so.
SUBSISTENCE.
Mr. RAUCH. For subsistence the current appropriation is $114,000,
and your estimate is $120,000. That is an increase of $6,000 over
last year. -
Maj. HARRIs. We will leave it at that figure. They will need all
of it." They have a deficiency this year of about $6,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the number of inmates in that branch as
compared with last year?
Maj. HARRIs. The Marion Branch had on December 31 last, 1343
members, and on the corresponding date last year they had 1315.
Mr. RAUCH. So there is an increase in membership at this home?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
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EIOUSEEIOLD.
Mr. RAUCH. For household the current appropriation is $45,000
and your estimate is $47,000.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; that is an increase of $2,000 over the ap-
propriation for 1915. They will have a deficiency this year of $2,000.
Mr. RAUCH. And you are asking for this additional amount to take
care of that deficiency?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; but for the fiscal year 1916.
FIOSPITAL.
Mr. RAUCII. For the hospital the current appropriation is $38,000
and your estimate is $40,000?
Maj. HARRIs. That is an increase of $2,000 which we think is nec-
essary for the proper care of the sick.
Mr. RAUCH. Can you state the number confined in the hospital?
Maj. HARRIs. On December 31 last they had 247 in the hospital,
and on December 31, a year ago, they had 234.
Col. CLOSE. And, you see, they have a great many on the outside
being cared for, but who are not in the hopsital.
Mr. RAUCH. The same conditions apply to this home as to other
homes?
Col. CLOSE. Yes, sir; they are getting old and need care and medi-
cine and everything else.
TRANSPORTATION.
Mr. RAUCII. For transportation the current appropriation is $800
and your estimate is $800?
Maj. HARRIs. There is no change there, and we will need all of it.
REPAIRS.
Mr. RAUCII. For repairs the current appropriation is $35,000 and
your estimate is $35,000?
Maj. HARRIS. That is the same as the appropriation for this year,
and it is left at the same amount. They will need it all.
Mr. RAUCH. Can you give the committee a general idea as to the
nature of those repairs?
Maj. HARRIs. They are repairs to buildings, for replacement of
worn-out machinery of all kinds, and for repair of roads, painting,
plumbing, and everything of that kind in the nature of repairs to
buildings and repairs to machinery.
Mr. RAUCH. Embracing buildings and grounds?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
Mr. RAUCH. And roads and walks?,
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
FARM.
Mr. RAUCII. For the farm the current appropriation is $12,000
and your estimate is $12,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We will leave it the same. That is the same as the
appropriation for this year.
Mr. RAUC II. What do you raise on this farm 2
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Maj. HARRIs. Hardly anything, except for the support of the cows.
Mr. RAUCH. How many cows are at this branch? How many ani-
mals are in the herd? - - • .
Maj. HARRIs. I do not believe we have that data. We have about
70 cows, but I can not state the number exactly. They are buying
and selling all the time. - >
Mr. RAUCH. Do you know how the supply of milk is obtained at
the Mºrion Branch, or whether the herd supplies all of the milk,
Or not
Maj. HARRIs. The herd does supply it all. The daily per capita
value of the farm products in the ration at the Marion Branch is
1.8 cents. :
Mr. RAUCH. How many acres are in the farm!
Maj. HARRIs. There are 298.84 acres, and the appraised value is
$522,297.
Mr. RAUCH. Are you giving the acreage of the farm or of the
entire area 7 •,
Maj. HARRIs. That is the entire acreage at the home. All of the
figures I have given as to land were for the entire acreage.
Col. CLOSE. What is the value of the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. The appraised value of the buildings is $801,595.
DAN VILLE BRANCH, DANVILLE, ILL.
CURRENT EXPEN SES.
Mr. RAUCH. The next is the Danville Branch, at Danville, Ill.
For current expenses the appropriation for 1915 is $46,500, and your
estimate is $46,000. That is a reduction of $500 from the appro-
priation of last year? º
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. $46,000 is the appropriation we recom-
mended for 1916. They expended in 1914, $45,194.
SUBSISTENCE.
Mr. RAUCH. For subsistence the current appropriation is $167,000,
and your estimate is $184,000. That is an increase?
Maj. HARRIs. We have now placed it at $178,000. They have a
deficiency of $10,000, and we figure that they will get through on
$178,000. Their membership has increased in a greater proportion
than the membership at the other branches. On December 31, last,
they had 2,214 members, and on the same date last year they had
only 1,967. That accounts for the large deficiency.
Household.
Mr. RAUCH. For household, the current appropriation is $70,000,
and your estimate is $65,000.
Maj. HARRIs. This year they will have a little surplus out of an
appropriation of $70,000. We have now put it at $68,000 instead
of $65,000.
Mr. RAUCH. You had a surplus of how much?
Maj. HARRIs. They will have a surplus of $2,000. We thought
they could get along with $65,000, but from the condition of the ap-
propriation now we think it is better to make it $68,000.
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IIOSPITAL.
Mr. RAUCII. For hospital, you are asking $43,000, which is the
same as One year ago. t;
Maj. HARRIs. We are making that now $42,000, $1,000 less, for
the current year, because they seem to have had more than they
needed.
The CHAIRMAN. How many men are in the hospital?
Maj. HARRIs. Two hundred and sixty-three on the 31st of Decem-
ber, 1914, and 223 at the 'same date last year.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is a very considerable increase and still you are
able to reduce that appropriation.
Maj. HARRIs. We do that because the condition of the appropria-
tion now seems to warrant it. We thought if they could get along
on the amount they had appropriated we would reduce it $1,000.
TRANSPORTATION.
The CIIAIRMAN. Transportation, the appropriation is $1,000 and
you are asking $1,000.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
REPAIRS.
The CIIAIRMAN. Repairs, the appropriation is $28,500, and you
are asking $28,000.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
FARM.
The CIIAIRMAN. Farm, the appropriation is $11,000 and you are
asking $10,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at $10,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you raise anything on this farm'
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; hardly anything. They raise a few veg-
etables.
The CIIAIRMAN. This is a maintenance item?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes.
The CIIAIRMAN. What is the area?
Maj. HARRIs. Three hundred and twenty-four and forty-six one-
hundredths acres, appraised value $81,000.
The CTIAIRMAN. And the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. Appraised value of buildings, $1,294,206. I think
that is a high appraisement.
MOUNTAIN BRANCII, JOHNSON CITY, TENN.
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The C11 AIRMAN. Mountain Branch, Johnson City, Tenn., current
expenses, the appropriation is $41,000 and your estimate is $41,000.
How many members are at the Mountain Branch?
Maj. HARRIs. They had on the 31st of December 1,257, and last
year on the same date they had 1,209.
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SUBST STENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. For subsistence the appropriation was $112,000
and you are asking $120,000. g
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at $120,000. They will have a deficiency
of about $8,000.
The CIIAIRMAN. Did you have a deficiency this year?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And you think you will need that much money?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; I think we will.
IIOUSEHOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. Household, the appropriation is $44,000 and you
are asking $44,000. t
Maj. farms. We leave it at the same amount. They will just
about get through this year without a deficiency.
The CHAIRMAN. Hospital, the appropriation is $33,000 and you
are asking $33,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at $33,000.
The CIIAIRMAN. Will that be sufficient?
Maj. HARRIS. They seem to be getting along comfortably there with
that appropriation.
TRANSPORTATION, |
The CHAIRMAN. Transportation, the appropriation is $2,000 and
you are asking for $2,500.
Maj. HARRIS. Yes, sir; they will run a little short in their trans-
portation there. There was a good deal of transportation there on
account of tubercular patients.
'ſhe CIIAIRMAN. For 1914 you used $2,100?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; but we are using more now than we did
formerly.
REIPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs, the appropriation was $28,000 and
your estimate is $28,000.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. f
FARM.
The CHAIRMAN. Farm; the appropriation is $18,000, and you are
asking $18,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at $18,000.
' The CHAIRMAN. Do you raise anything down there?
Maj. HARRIs. All the milk they use there is produced by their dairy
and they also raise some vegetables. i
The CHAIRMAN. What is the area of the Mountain Branchº
Maj. HARRIs. 447.43 acres.
The CHAIRMAN. And the value?
Maj. HARRIs. $136,212.
The CIIAIRMAN. And the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. $1,588,025.
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Mº; MoWDELL. What was the value of the farm products produced .
there?
Maj. HARRIS. The daily per capita of farm products consumed
under subsistence was 0.027 cents per day for each man. That is
rather larger than at most branches which have farms.
BATTLE MOUNTAIN SANITARIUM, HOT SPRINGS, s. DAK.
CURRENT EXPENSES.
The CHAIRMAN. Battle Mountain Sanitarium, Hot Springs, S.
Dak., current expenses; the appropriation is $24,000, and your esti-
mate is $24,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it the same.
The CHAIRMAN. How many members have you there?
Maj. HARRIs. On the 31st of December they had 390, and one year
ago at the same time they had 379.
The CHAIRMAN. This is practically a hospital?
Col. CLOSE. A tubercular hospital, largely; yes.
SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. For subsistence the appropriation is $38,000 and
your estimate is $41,000.
Maj. HARRIs. They have a deficiency this year.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you need $41,000?
Maj. HARRIs. We ask for $42,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You want $1,000 more?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; I think they will require that amount to
get through.
FIOUSEHOLD.
The CHAIRMAN. For household the appropriation is $38,000 and
your estimate is $38,000. !
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at the same amount.
HOSPITAL.
The CHAIRMAN. For hospital the appropriation is $35,000 and your
estimate is $36,000 for next year. -
Maj. HARRIs. We leave it at $36,000.
TRANSPORTATION.
&
The CHAIRMAN. For transportation the appropriation is $4,000
and you are asking for $5,000.
Maj. HARRIs. We will leave it at $4,000. We believe they can get
along with that amount.
Thº, CHAIRMAN. Do you send anyone here except tubercular pa-
tients?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; we send rheumatic patients who can be
benefited by the hot baths there.
The CHAIRMAN. They are all practically hospital cases?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; they are practically all invalids.
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REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs the appropriation is $13,000 and you
are asking $13,000? -
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the area of this reservation?
Maj. HARRIs. It has been lumped and all the Battle Mountain
Iteservation was placed under the control of the board of managers;
but it is no part of the sanitarium, but is simply adjacent to it;
101.36 acres is the amount of purchased land used for Sanitarium
purposes. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the value of that?
Maj. HARRIs. $105,700.
The CHAIRMAN. And the buildings?
Maj. HARRIs. The buildings are appraised at $668,298.
FARM.
The CHAIRMAN. For farm the appropriation is $5,000 and you are
asking $5,000. Do you raise anything there?
: Maj. HARRIs. We have an orchard.
The CHAIRMAN. That is an upkeep item for the grounds?
Maj. HARRIs. Chiefly; yes, sir. They do raise a few vegetables and
have an orchard which they think is going to produce next year.
CLOTHING FOR ALL BRANCHES.
The CHAIRMAN. Clothing for all branches, the appropriation is.
$200,000 and you are asking $210,000.
Maj. HARRIs. All these deductions that have been made at the
branches are larely absorbed on account of the necessity for increas-
ing our estimate for clothing for the branches. The increased price
of shoes and woolen goods is such that we will ask you to increase
that estimate from $210,000 to $250,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that?
Maj. HARRIs. In the first place, the increased membership has been
such this year that it has made quite a demand upon our reserve
stock at the depot so that the stock is somewhat depleted, and we
Rnow we will have to pay largely increased prices for all woolen
goods, and for shoes, and I do not feel it would be safe to submit an
estimate for less than that. Of course, conditions may change, and
we may not require that amount.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you carry a large reserve?
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; we carry a six month's reserve in order that
the issues to the branches may not be restricted.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you supply the members with ?
Maj. HARRIs. With the uniform, and all the clothing they wear.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they get a certain allowance periodically, or
how is that arranged?
Col. CLOSE. Whenever their clothing is worn out we replace it.
Maj. HARRIs. And we keep the clothing renovated by dry-cleaning
gasoline plants. s
The CHAIRMAN. Is a man given a suit of clothes at stated periods?
494 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; he gets a new suit when he comes into the
home, and when it becomes soiled it is cleaned for him. When it
becomes too much worn to wear, it is exchanged, and if we have
renovated stock on hand, we give him the renovated stock.
The CHAIRMAN. He is also furnished with his underclothes and
hats and shoes? -
Col. CLOSE. Yes, sir; all his clothing.
The CHAIRMAN. When they go out do they leave their clothing at
the home? -
Maj. HARRIs. They turn it in except in exceptional cases. Some-
times we have to permit them to take their home clothing with them.
For instance, when they go on furlough and have not means to pro-
vide civilian clothing, and men frequently, when they are dropped
from the rolls summarily for bad conduct or dishonorably dis-
charged, have to keep their clothing because they have nothing else
to wear; but as a rule it is turned in when they leave the home.
SALARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. Board of Managers, the appropriation is $56,200,
and you are asking $53,700.
Maj. HARRIs. All of the salaries are left the same as they have
been. e
NUMBER OF MEN IN HOMEs.
Mr. MoRDELL. Have you the total number of members present on
the 31st of December last, as compared with the 31st of December
the year before, for all the homes?
Maj. HARRIs. The total present in the homes on the 31st of Decem-
ber was 18,120.
Mr. MoRDELL. That was in 1914?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; and on the same date the year before it
was 17,518. º
Mr. MoRDELL. An increase of over 600.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; and when it is averaged the increase is
more marked. The average present reported on the 31st of Decem-
ber, 1914, was 18,008 and the average present on the same date the
year before was 17,591.
Col. CLOSE. And in former years there has been a decrease of
about 800.
Mr. RAUCH. Is it not true that men are now entering these homes
who have never been members of the home before?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir. I think there is a larger proportion of
new men coming in now than there has been in the past.
Mr. RAUCH. Due to increased disability of advancing years—due
to their increasing ages? !
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; due to the disabilities of age. The average
age of Civil War men now is over 74 years, and we are getting quite
a sprinkling of other men—Spanish War men, men who have served
in the Philippines and at other places.
Mr. RAUCH. Is that membership increasing to any marked degree?
Maj. HARRIs. It has increased in the last year to some extent.
Mr. RAUCH. Could you put in the record some statement showing
that increase?
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Col. CLOSE. Yes; we can get that for you.
The CHAIRMAN. Also put in the record the number of Spanish
War members you have now. * e
Col. CLOSE. The number is about 2,000; but we will put it in
accurately later. * g -
Mr. MoRDELL. Your actual increase last December, compared
with the December of one year ago, was 602, and your average in-
crease for the year was 418.
Maj. HARRIs. Yes; that is right.
Comparative statement Dec. 31, 1913, and Dec. 31, 1914, showing the number of
ſmembers in the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers whose Service
was other than. Meaſſica/m, or Civil War.

Branches. Pº.31, Pºº. 31, Increase.
Central------------------------------------------------------------- 502 625 123
Northwestern ------------------------------------------------------ 266 364 98
Eastern------------------------------------------------------------ 236 338 102
Southern----------------------------------------------------------- 185 261 76
Western. ----------------------------------------------------------- 348 355 7
Pacific------------------------------------------------------------- 210 278 68
Marion------------------------------------------------------------- 169 253 84
Danville----------------------------------------------------------- 279 406 127.
Mountain---------------------------------------------------------- 336 407 71
Battle Mountain Sanitarium. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 135 146 , 11
Total.--------------------------------------------------------- 2,666 3,433 767
AID TO STATE OR TERRITORIAL FIOMES,
The CHAIRMAN. State or Territorial homes; the appropriation is
$1,100,000, and you are asking for the same amount. You pay how
much per capita ?
Maj. HARRIs. $100 a year. . . . .
The CHAIRMAN. And the amount expended depends upon the
number in the homes?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have they been increasing in membership?
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; they are falling off.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you pay for them in 1914?
Maj. HARRIs. In 1914 we paid $1,098,999. ſº
The CHAIRMAN. When you say you pay them $100 per capita, does
that mean based upon a year's residence in the home, or how is that
figured? Suppose a man enters a home and stays 60 days?
Maj. HARRIs. It is based on the average present for the quarter.
They send in quarterly returns, which are verified by our inspector
as far as possible, and they make affidavit that they have care for
that many men. *
The CHAIRMAN. They average it for each quarter?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir; and our inspectors must muster them twice
a year to be sure about it.
The CHAIRMAN. So that if 12 men were there 30 days each, that
would be 1 man for 1 year?
Col. CLOSE. Yes, sir.
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ADMISSION OF SOLDIERS OF REGULAR ARMY TO HOMIES.
Maj. HARRIs. There is a matter, Mr. Chairman, which the presi-
dent of the board of managers would like to present to you. It is
a measure in the interest of economy, I think. Last year there were
some applicants denied admission at the Mountain Branch by the
president of the board of managers, because they were eligible for
admission to the Soldiers' Home in Washington. They went to the
courts and asked for a mandatory injunction requiring the board to
admit them to the Mountain Branch. That was based on the phrase-
ology of the law establishing the Mountain Branch, which reads that
Such-and-such members shall be admitted. The ground was taken
by the president of the board of managers that eligibility was fixed
in the bill making appropriations for the support of the Army, dated
May 26, 1900, in which it was provided:
Hereafter the following persons Only shall be entitled to the benefits of the
National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers and may be admitted thereto
upon the Order of a member of the board of managers, namely: All honorably
discharged officers, SO'diers, and sailors who served in the regular or volunteer
forces of the United States in any war in which the country has been engaged,
who are disabled by disease, wounds, or otherwise, and who have no adequate
means of support, “and by reason of such disability are incapable of earning
their living.
The original act establishing the home provided that those should
be eligible to the home who were not otherwise provided for by
law. That has been incorporated in our regulations. The act estab-
lishing the Mountain Branch provided—
That all honorably discharged soldiers and sailors who served in the War of
the Rebellion and the Spanish-American War, and the provisional Army, and
volunteer soldiers and sai'Ors of the War of 1812 and of the Mexican War, who
are disabled by age, disease, or otherwise, and by reason of such disability are
incil j)able of earning their living, shall be admitted into the Natioanl Home for
Disabled Volunteer Soldiers.
That includes not only the Mountain Branch, but the whole home.
Mr. GILLETT. How does that differ from the other provision?
Maj. HARRIs. It differs from the other provision in that the phrase
“ and who have no adequate means of support ’’ is left out.
Mr. GILLETT. That was not in the last act? -
Maj. HARRIs. No, sir; this case came before Judge Sanford, in the
United States District Court at Greeneville, Tenn., and I have a copy
of his decision, which I will incorporate in the record if you desire.
The CHAIRMAN. We shall be glad to have that decision inserted
in the record.
The decision referred to follows:
In the United States District Court at Greeneville, Tenn. Percival G. Wicks
et al. v. National Hollie for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers et al. NO. 4. In
equity.
Memorandum opinion on plaintiffs' application for prelimina?'y injunction.
In the organic act of March 21, 1866 (ch. 21, sec. 7, 14 Stat., 11), defining the
persons entitled to admission in the National Soldiers' Home (asylum), one
requirement was that they should be persons “not provided for by existing
laws.” This requirement was carried into section 4832 of the Revised Statutes.
However, the act of July 5, 18S4 (ch. 223, sec. 5, 23 Stat., 120, 121), authorizing
the location of the Western branch of the bome contained a general provision
as to the persons who should be it (lmitted to the home, not limited in its terms
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to this particular branch, in which this requirement was omitted. It was again
omitted in the act of March 2, 1887 (ch. 316, Sec. 2, 24 Stat., 444), authorizing the
location of the Pacific branch of the home, containing a special provision as
to admission to this particular branch, although this special provision contained
the new requirement that the persons entitled to fidmission should “ have no
adequate means of support.” The act of July 23, 1888 (ch. 695, Sec. 5, 25 Stat.,
341), authorizing the location of the Marion branch of the home, contained a
general provision as to admission to the home, in which the requirements in
reference to other provision of law and adequate means of support were both
Omitted. *
The Army appropriation act of May 35, 1900 (ch. 586, 31 Stat., 205, 216),
contained a general provision as to the persons who should thereafter be entitled
to admission to the home, in which the 1-equirement in reference to other pro-
Vision of law was onlitted, but the requirement that they should “ have no ade-
quate means of support ’’ was inserted. And the act of January 28, 1901 (ch.
184, sec. 5, 31 Stat., 745), authorizing the location of the mountain branch of the
home, the particular branch now in question, contained the following general
provision : “That all honorably discharged soldiers and sailors who served in
the War of the Rebellion and the Spanish-American War, and the provisional
army and the volunteer soldiers and sailors of the War of 1812 and of the
Mexica War, who are disabled by age, disease, or otherwise, and by reason of
such disability are incapable of earning a living, shall be admitted into the
Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers.” This provision, it will be noted, en-
titled the persons described to admission to the home without any limitation
either as to other provision of law or adequate means of support. Substantially
this same provision was repeated in almost identical words in the appropriation
act of May 27, 190S (ch. 200, 35 Stat., 317, 372), extending the right of admis-
Sion to the home to Soldiers in the Indian wars, and in the appropriation act of
March 4, 1909 (ch. 299, 35 Stat. 945, 1012), extending such right to soliliers and
sailors who had served in the Philippines, China, or Alaska; in each of which
the Only conditions attached to the right of admission were honorable discharges
and disabilities incapacitating them from earning a living.
My Conclusions are as follows:
1. Without determining the effect Of the general provisions contained in the
acts of 1884 and 1888 authorizing the location of the Western and Marion
Branches of the Home, it is clear, in my opinion, that both the general pro-
visions of the appropriation act of 1900 and the provisions of the act of 1901,
authorizing the location of the Mountain Branch, each of which broadly pro-
vides that certain persons shall be entitled to admission to the home, without
any condition that they shall be “not provided for by existing laws,” are
directly repugnant to and inconsistent with the provisions of the organic act
of 1866, and of the Revised Statutes containing such requirement, and that
Such earlier provisions containing such requirement are hence repealed by
necessary implication, both as to the home in general and the Mountain Branch
in particular. It is therefore unnecessary to determine whether, if such re-
quirement were still in force, honorably discharged soldiers entitled to the
benefits of the United States Soldiers' Home in Washington, D. C., or receiving
a sufficient pension, should be deemed to be “provided for by existing laws"
within the meaning of such earlier stautory provisions. -
2. I strongly incline to the opinion that the provision above quoted in refer-
ence to admission, contained in the act of 1901, authorizing the location of the
MOUIntain Branch Of the hOlme, which was not limited in its terms to the MOUIn-
tain Branch itself (this construction being emphasized by the contrast between
the broad language used in this act and the restricted phraseology of the act
of 1887 authorizing the location of the Pacific Branch), was intended as a
general provision, defining the requirements of admission into all branches of
the home, and thus repealing, by necessary implication, the former requirement
of the appropriation act of 1900, that the persons admitted should “ have no
adequate means of support.” Such construction is not only in harmony with
the broad language used and indicative of a purpose on the part of Congress
to make the requirements of admission the same in all branches Of the home,
rather than (liverse and variant, but is also emphasized by the fact that the
subsequent acts of 1908 and 1909 extending the right of admission to soldiers
in the Indian Wars and soldiers and sailors who had served in the Philippines,
China, or Alaska, follow in almost identical words the phraseology of the act
of 1901, and Omit entirely the requirement as to adequate means of support
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Žhat had been COntained in the appropriation act of 1900; thus making uniform
and harmonious the requirements of admission applicable to all classes of
Soldiers and Sailors granted the privilege of the home in each and all of its
branches alike. -
3. But without definitely determining this point it is entirely clear, in my
Opinion, that even if the lyrovisions of the act of 1901 are to be construed as
relating only to admission to the Mountain Branch, they must at least control
in reference to the perSOInS who may be admitted to Such branch, and that as
£his provision Omits the former general requirement as to adequate means of
Support and provides affirmatively without any qualification or condition that
soldiers and sailors of the classes mentioned, who by reason of disability are
incapable of earning a living, “shall be admitted ” into the home, the former
general requirement as to the lack of means of support is repealed by necessary
implication as a requirement of admission to the Mountain Branch at least. In
case of repugnancy between an earlier general statute and a later special statute
dealing with a part of the Same Subject, the Special statute will prevail. (Jones v.
Broadway Co., 136 Wis., 595, 599; 36 Cyc., 1151; and cases cited in N. 57.
And see by analogy Rosencrans v. United States, 165 U. S., 257, 262; Rodgers v.
United States, 185 U. S., S3, 88.) And so as to soldiers and sailors coming
within the provisions Of the acts of 190S and 1909. It is therefore, unnecessary
1:0 inquire whether the 1)laintiffs, by reason Of receiving pensions or otherwise,
are persons “Without adequate means of Support,” the lack of such means of
support not being a condition of their right of admission to the Mountain
Pranch Of the hOlme at leaSt. -
4. I am therefore. Of Opinion that the Order dropping from the roll Of members
of Mountain Branch the several plaintiffs who had been previously inmates
£hereof was without authority Of law, and that a preliminary injunction should
be granted, as prayed, restraining their removal pending a filmal hearing and the
further Order of the COurt.
5. Since, however, it appears that the IJlaintiff Bohni has never been admitted
to the Mountain Branch except as he on One occasion gained access thereto
without the consent Of the authorities Of the llome, and in View Of the limited
extent to which preliminary mandatory injunctions are granted, their principal
office being to compel a defendant to restore the former status quo pending a
final heal'. Ing (Gibson’s Suit in Chall.c., 2d ed., S. S03), I find Ino Sufficient ground
for now granting Said plaintiff a preliminary mandatory injunction to compel
his ºldmission to the home I) ending the final hearing.
6. The application of the plaintiff Bohm for a writ of preliminary injunction
will accordingly be denied and that of all the other plaintiffs will be granted.
Let an order be entered accordingly.
(Signed) SANFORD, Judge.
JULY 6, 1914. e
Maj. HARRIs. The judge held in substance that the failure to in-
clude the words “not otherwise provided for by law '' in the act
making appropriations for the establishment of the Mountain
Branch, by implication repealed not only the organic act, but the
specific provision attached to the Army appropriation bill of 1900.
Mr. GILLETT. Repealed it as to all branches? f
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Who were these men who applied for admission?
Maj. IIARRIs. They were regular soldiers who were, under the
ław, entitled to admission to the Soldiers' Home in Washington.
They were Regular Army soldiers.
The CHAIRMAN. They had never been admitted?
Col. CLOSE. No, sir. tº º -
The CHAIRMAN. Under this decision all honorably discharged
soldiers of the Regular Army of any period have the right to go to
the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, although they
have this home here in Washington? e
Col. CLOSE. They can do it. The Regular Army soldier pays so
much each year into the fund.
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Maj. HARRIs. They have stopped assessing them, because they
have such a large fund.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you wish to have doñe?.
Maj. HARRIs. Here is a memorandum which has been prepared
which we think, if it meets your approval, would be beneficial in
every way:
Hereafter the following persons only shall be entitled to the benefits of the
National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, and may be admitted thereto
upon the order of a member of the board of managers, namely: All honorably
discharged officers, soldiers, and sailors who served in the regular or yolunteer
forces of the United States in any war in which the country has been engaged.
or who have served in the Philippine Islands, in China, or in Alaska, or who,
while serving in the Army or Navy of the United States, have taken part in
any campaign or expedition, domestic or foreign, which resulted in hostile
action, who are disabled by disease, wounds, or otherwise, and by reason of
such disability are incapable of earning their living; provided that they have
no adequate means of Support and are not otherwise provided for by law.
The CHAIRMAN. There is no change in this proposition up to the
time of this decision ?
Maj. HARRIs. Except that it enlarges it.
All honorably discharged officers, soldiers, and sailors who served in the
Regular or Volunteer forces of the United States in any war in which the
country has been engaged, or who have served in the Philippine Islands, in
China, or in Alaska—
To that point it is the law at present.
. Or who while serving in the Army or Navy of the United States have taken
part in any campaign or expedition. domestic or foreign, which resulted in
hostile action— t
That is new. 4
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you suggest that?
Maj. HARRIs. To cover such cases as the occupation of Vera Cruz,
where men were wounded. º
The CHAIRMAN. Why not suggest a provision that will leave you
in the same situation you were prior to this decision ? -
Maj. HARRIs. Of course, that can be left out. e &
Col. CLOSE. I think that all soldiers who have taken part in the dis-
turbances against this country should have the privilege of going to
the home. | te
The CHAIRMAN. Under this decision, if a man enlists in the Reg-
ular Army and serves his enlistment and is honorably discharged,
without taking part in any action at all or in any expedition or move-
ment in which there were hostilities, he can go to the volunteer Sol-
diers’ home or he can go to the National Soldiers’ Home here in
Washington? e
Col. CLOSE. This provision would make him come here, where, he
belongs, as we think. We had an instance just the other day. I was
at Leavenworth about 10 days ago and a man died while I was there,
and when they went through his effects they found under his bed a
little box in which there were over $11,000 in deposit slips, repre-
senting money in the banks, besides other property. That man was
provided for and he had really no right to go there.
Mr. GILLETT. I suppose that does not happen often ?
Col. CLOSE. No, sir. tº tº
Mr. GILLETT. There were nothing but Regular Army soldiers in
the Vera Cruz action?
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Maj. HARRIs. No, sir. The regular soldiers are eligible for admis-
sion to the home, and we are now required to discriminate and reject
a man who was badly wounded at Vera Cruz if he is not enumerated
in this first part. • *
Mr. GILLETT. The question might be raised whether or not that was
a war?
Maj. HARRIs. It was as much of a war as service in China or in
Alaska. Jº
Mr. GILLETT. I think it would be advisable to frame it as the
chairman suggested, like it was before.
Maj. HARRIs. That is for the committee to decide.
The CHAIRMAN. That could be taken up separately. It would
simplify matters very much if you prepared a provision restoring
the status prior to the decision. e
How many of those men were admitted ?
Maj. HARRIs. I do not find the number mentioned in the decision,
but 'five or six men. w
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the first time they ever attempted it?
Maj. HARRIs. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. Why should they prefer to go into that home rather
than in this home here?
Col. CLOSE. Just like a good many we have, they go from one
home to another, they want to go somewhere else; just like you and
I would be, if we were in one branch we would want to go to some
other branch. - g *
Maj. HARRIS. This home is not quite as strict as ours.
Mr. GILLETT. I had an idea that this was more restricted.
NATIONAL Homſ E FOR DISABLED VOLUNTEER SOLDIERs,
NEW YORK, January 16, 1915,
Hon. JAMES C. CourTs, *
Clerk, Committee om Appropriations,
House of Representatives, Washington, D. C.
SIR . -
3% :: sk :*: #: × ×
A sheet giving information in regard to Spanish War soldiers, as requested
by the chairman and Mr. Rauch, is inclosed herewith. The figures given in this
Sheet include all members of the home who did not serve in the Civil War, it
being impracticable from our office records to distinguish the Spanish War
members from those who served in the Philippines or in Alaska, etc. This
information could be had by sending to the branches, but it would cause con-
siderable delay, as at least 90 per cent included in the figures given were
Spanish War men it is thought that the information contained in the sheet will
be satisfactory.
In making explanations in regard to the memorandum Submitted suggesting
a provision to be inserted in the sundry civil bill to govern admissions to the
national home, I stated that if the matter included between pencil marks which
I made on the memorandum was omitted the memorandum would be in accord-
ance with existing laws as interpreted by the home. In this I was in error.
I overlooked the fact that honorably discharged Soldiers who served in any of
the campaigns against hostile Indians were eligible to the home under the pro-
visions of the act of May 27, 1908, were not mentioned in the memorandum but
wefe included in the words “ or who while Serving in the Army Or Navy Of the
TJnited States have taken part in any Campaign or expedition, domestic Or
foreign, which resulted in hostile action,” and that the striking out of these
words would deprive that class of Soldiers of the benefits of the home. In
order to correct this mistake there is inclosed hereWith two copies of an
amended memorandum which conforms strictly to existing laws as Construed
by the home, and which has been included in the regulations of the home, gov-
erming admissions since 1909.
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It is believed that the memorandum in its original form would not materially
increase the membership of the home and would avoid the appearance of dis-
Crimination in regard to disabled soldiers eligible for the benefits of the home.
If, however, it is not deemed expedient to make use of the memorandum in
the form Submitted to the committee t the heasing, the president of the board
Qf managers joins me in the request that the memorandum now inclosed may
be substituted.
Very truly, yours,
MOSES HARRIS,
General Treasurer National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers.
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(Memorandum of suggested provision to be inserted in sundry civil bill for 1916.]
The following persons only shall be entitled to the benefits of the National
Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, and may be admitted thereto upon the
Order of a member of the board of managers, namely: All honorably discharged
Officers, soldiers, and Sailors who served in the regular or volunteer forces of
the United States in any war in which the country has been engaged, including
the Spanish-American War, the provisional army (authorized by act of Con-
gress, approved March 2, 1899), in any of the campaigns against hostile Indians,
or who have served in the Philippines, in China, or in Alaska, who are disabled
by disease, wounds, or otherwise, and who have no adequate means of support,
and who are not. Otherwise provided for by law, and by reason of such dis-
ability are incapable of earning their living.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1915.
BACK PAY AND BOUNTY.
STATEMENT OF MR. JAMES L. BAITY, AUDITOR FOR THE WAR
DEPARTMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. (Reading:)
For pay of amounts for arrears of pay of two and three year volunteers and
their widows and legal heirs, for bounty under the act of July 28, 1866, and
for a mounts for commutation of rations to prisoners Of War in States of the
so-called Confederacy, and to soldiers on furlough, that may be certified to be
due by the accounting officers of the Treasury during the fiscal year 1916,
and the appropriation for the current fiscal year is $50,000 and your
estimate is $50,000. How much was expended in 1914?
Mr. BAITY. We expended $57,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any estimate of how much you will use
during the next year? -
Mr. BAITY. I think we will need in the neighborhood of $50,000.
The CHAIRMAN. The statute of limitations has now run on these
claims? #
Mr. BAITY. Yes, sir. That went into effect December 31, 1912, and
all claims not filed prior to that are now barred.
The CHAIRMAN. How many claims have you pending?
Mr. BAITY. In the office we have pending something like 150,000
to 175,000 claims. gº -
The CHAIRMAN. What do they average?
Mr. BAITY. These are claims that have not been completed, but may
be completed; we can not tell. g -
. The CHAIRMAN. What have the claims that have been allowed
averaged ?
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Mr. BAITY. Approximately $50, some more and some less.
The CHAIRMAN. You say these claims which are in the office are
uncompleted claims? -
Mr. BAITY. They are claims which have been taken up and not
finally settled. Probably in some of them evidence has been called
for and it has not been furnished, maybe the soldier has died, but
they are still subject to settlement whenever the proper evidence is
furnished. - \
The CHAIRMAN. You believe that you will require $50,000 at the
rate you are now going?
Mr. BAITY. Yes, sir.
ARREARS OF PAY, WAR WITIL SPAIN.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For payment of amounts for
arrears of pay and allowances on account of service of officers and
men of the Army during the War with Spain and in the Philippine
Islands that may be certified to be due by the accounting officers of
the Treasury during the fiscal year 1916, and that are chargeable to
the appropriations that have been carried to the surplus fund,” and
the present appropriation is $10,000 and you are asking for $5,000?
Mr. BAITY. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the condition of these claims?
Mr. BAITY. We have probably a thousand of these claims in the
office now. Of course, they are barred after December 31, 1914,
but we have a thousand or more in the office at this time and I think
it will take in the neighborhood of $5,000 to clean them up.
The CHAIRMAN. Clean them all up'
Mr. BAITY. Yes, sir.
MoRDAY, JANUARY 11, 1915.
LIGHTHOUSES, BEACONS, AND FOG SIGNALS.
STATEMENTS OF HON, WILLIAM C. REDFIELD, SECRETARY OF
COMMERCE, AND MR. GEORGE R. PUTNAM, COMMISSIONER
OF LIGHTHOUSES. s -
The CHAIRMAN. “Department of Commerce. Lighthouses, bea-
cons, fog signals, light vessels, and other works under the Light-
house Service.” These are divided into different groups. “Group
No. 1. Works urgently necessary for the safety of navigation and
for the preservation of existing structures or equipment, for the
full utilization of other public improvements, or for the comple-
tion of projects already commenced.” “No. 1. Lighthouse tender,
general service.” That has been taken care of ?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; for which we are very grateful.
None of these items is authorized by law except Nos. 6, 21, and 24.
#. have been favorably reported by the proper committees in both
OUISéS.
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GUANTANAMO, CUBA, KEEPER’s DwDLLING,
Item 6 is one which you will remember. May I hand you a photo-
graph, Mr. Chairman' That [indicating] is the present keeper’s
dwelling.
Mr. PUTNAM. I should like to explain that the United States res-
ervation includes the entire entrance to Guantanamo Bay. This
[indicating] is the boundary of the naval reservation so that it in-
cludes the entire entrance to the port of Guantanamo. This [indi-
cating] is the Sea port, and the city of Guantanamo is a little dis-
tance inland. You asked the question a year ago, and I was not pre-
pared then to give you the information, as to the amount of com—
merce. There is a considerable amount of commerce that goes into
Guantanamo, the Cuban port, civilian commerce, entirely distinet
from the naval station. That included 601 vessels arriving and de-
parting from Guantanamo Bay in one year, and amounted to
1,039,000 tons. About 300 vessels arrived or departed at night;"
those would directly require lighting facilities. There is a moral
obligation for the United States to furnish whatever lighting is nec-
essary for that entrance because we control the entire entrance to
the port of Guantanamo. The exports from the Cuban port of
Guantanamo amounted in 1912 to $5,712,000, and the imports to
$1,406,000, showing that there is a considerable amount of shipping
and of commerce using that port.
Mr. GILLETT. Of what does that generally consist?
Mr. PUTNAMI. That is Cuban commerce, largely sugar and tobacco.
I have not the details here.
Secretary REDFIELD. And iron ore.
Mr. PUTNAM. We are asking for $14,000 to improve that whole
situation there. The principal part is to build a new lightkeeper’s
dwelling. The present dwelling, as shown in the photograph, is an
old shack. The dwelling was destroyed at the time of hostilities.
Since that time the three keepers have been living in this shack.
More than half of the $14,000 will be used for that purpose. The
balance is required to improve and maintain the three lights more
efficiently and effectively at those points.
DOG ISLAND, M.E., LIGHT, NEAR ENTRANCE TO ST. CROIX RIVER,
Secretary REDFIELD. There is one very small matter which I wish
very much you would be kind enough to put in the bill pending the
authorization which may be made before this bill is passed, $3,500, on
page 517.
The CHAIRMAN. “No. 15, Dog Island, Me., light: For estab-
lishing a light at or near Dog Island entrance to St. Croix River.
Me...” $3,500.
Secretary REDFIELD. The reason I ask this is because this is a light
which should be in use before the summer traffic begins at that point.
I have personally examined the spot and there is no possible ques-
tion of the danger there, and if it is done at all it should be done this
summer before the summer traffic begins.
Mr. GILLETT. Is the summer traffic the main reason for this?
Secretary REDFIELD. The traffic is greater in the summer. The
proposed light is to be located at a point around which all vessels to
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Calais, Me., and vessels to Eastport must go. Its importance lies in
the fact that the tide outward sets against that rock and inward sets
against it, so that at every change of the tide a vessel is naturally
drifted against the rock. The tide rises over 15 feet, and it runs very
fast.
The CHAIRMAN. Against the rock on which you want to put the
light? *
Secretary REDi'IELD. Yes, sir. It is now entirely unmarked. No
buoy will stay there. R
Mr. PUTNAM: There is a very strong current there.
Secretary REDFIELD. Both up and down stream. The ebb tide goes
rigt against it and the flood tide goes right against it also.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is Eastport?
Secretary REDFIELD. It lies right there [indicating].
Mr. PUTNAM. It is right north of Eastport.
Secretary REDFIELD. Calais is here [indicating]. This is the
main line of entrance to the port of Calais. It is a little matter, but
it is very important. * e
NEW MODEI, Ol' LIG FITJ IOUSE CONSTRUCTION.
I wonder if I may stop long enough to show you some of our recent
work with the money already appropriated.
Mr. PUTNAM. That is a new lighthouse recently constructed [indi-
rating].
The CHAIRMAN. These are new models?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
Mr. PUTNAM. This [indicating] is a new type of reinforced con-
crete structure. That is an entirely new scheme, a concrete caisson
floated out and sunk, the first time used for a lighthouse in this
country. ~\
Secretary REDFIELD. It represents the latest advance in the art.
Mr. GILLETT. Is that floated out on a barge?
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir; it floats itself out.
Mr. GILLETT. The air is sufficient to float it?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. They drive piles down to the bot-
tom to hold it in place. It is floated out. It was built on the shore.
Mr. GILLETT. And they then just let the air out?
Mr. PUTNAM. They open a valve and let the water in and sink it
in that way. & *
Secretary REDFIELD. It is 30 feet in diameter, circular, about 15 to
18 feet high, closed at the bottom and open at the top, just a huge tub.
Mr. PUTNAM. After it is sunk it is built up to the necessary height.
Mr. GILLETT. Is it built to come above the water?
Mr. PUTNAM. It is above the water when sunk; it is launched and
floated out just like a ship.
LIGHTHOUSE SERVICE.
GENERAL EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Lighthouse Service. General
expenses,” and the appropriation is $2,775,000, and your estimate is
$2,840,000.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 505
Mr. PUTNAM. There is an increase of $65,000 in the total amount,
which is caused by two things. One is the law which grants leave
of absence to per diem employees in'the service.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does that amount to?
Mr. PUTNAMI. About $15,000, to cover the leave of 300 employees
at an average of about $3.50 a day each for 15 days. That figures
out a little over $15,000. The balance of the increase is due to the
general increase of the work of the service and the increase in the
number of aids to navigation. We have added $50,000 on that ac-
count. The number of aids during the last year increased 677, or
about 5 per cent. The increase we are asking for is less than 2 per
cent of the appropriation for “General expenses.” The Secretary
has a diagram showing the appropriations.
Secretary REDFIELD. I will show you by the diagram the increase
in the aids to be cared for and the increase in the appropriation to
care for them. The line running to the top [indicating] shows the
work to be done, and the line running at the bottom shows the funds
available for that work.
Mr. PUTNAM. With this increase of $65,000 the total appropria-
tions for operating the Lighthouse Service will still be nearly
$300,000 less than they were five years ago, in 1910. I want to show
that we are not going back to the appropriations formerly made.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. PUTNAM. The unexpended balance under this item was $17,764.
That is much larger than it should be, but most of it is due to the
failure of the contractor in raising a light vessel on Lake Erie. We
contracted for the raising of a light vessel for $12,000, and this fail-
ure did not occur until after the end of the fiscal year, so it was im-
possible to make any use of those funds, and hence they have to go
back into the Treasury.
The CHAIRMAN. How many aids to navigation do you maintain?
Secretary REDFIELD. There are 14,198. That is an increase of 677
during the last fiscal year. Furthermore, the whole matter appears
in detail on page 5 of the commissioner's report, which we will file,
if you so desire.
The CHAIRMAN. Does this item also include light vessels and the
lighthouses?
Mr. PUTNAM. What we call “aids to navigation,”
houses, light vessels, buoys, beacons, and fog signals.
The CHAIRMAN. In this item how many tenders have you?
Mr. PUTNAM. At the end of the last fiscal year there were 45 light-
house tenders.
Secretary REDFIELD. As compared with 51 in 1910.
Mr. PUTNAM. Six less than in 1910.
Mr. GILLETT. They must be a good deal larger?
Mr. PUTNAMr. No, sir; it is due to a more economical arrangement
of the work. Formerly there were separate tenders for the inspec-
tors and engineers in each district.
Mr. GILLETT. You ask more for rations and provisions for your
present smaller number than you did for the larger number 4
Mr. PUTNAM. Are your referring to the estimate for 1916?
Mr. GILLīTT. Yes, sir.
Mr. PUTNAM. We are asking somewhat more for rations and pro-
visions for 1916 because there will be additional tenders by that
time. We are now building a number of vessels. By the end of the
° includes light-
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fiscal year 1916 there will be an increase of seven tenders and light
vessels. -
Mr. GILLETT. At the end of the fiscal year; but you do not want
rations for those which will be completed at the end of the fiseal year?
Mr. PUTNAM. One of them will be completed before the beginning
of that year and the other six will be completed at various intervals
during the year. Referring to the estimate I have here, the increase
is only $7,000 for rations and provisions, and, I think, that will be
more than covered by the increase in vessels at the end of the fiscal
year 1916. }
A: ID TO SEIIPWRECIKED PERSON S.
The CHAIRMAN. Under this authority to extend temporary relief
to shipwrecked persons, was any money expended during the past
year
Mr. PUTNAM. The amount expended has been very small—much
less than we estimated. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any figures to show how much was ex-
pended ? -
Mr. PUTNAM. I have not those figures here, but I will furnish
them for the record. It was much less than we estimated and much
less than the limit named.
(NOTE.-The total amount expended On this account during the fiscal year
1914 was $25.)
REEPERS OF LIGHTHOUSES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “ICeepers of lighthouses,” and
the appropriation is $940,000, and you are asking the same amount
for next year. tº
Mr. PUTNAM. There is no change in that item.
The CHAIRMAN. The same number of keepers of lighthouses?
Mr. PUTNAM. This is only the maximum limit named in the law—
1,800—which is the same as last year. l
LIGHTHOUSE VESSELS, OFFICERS AND CREws.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “Lighthouse vessels: For Šal-
aries and wages of officers and crews of light vessels and lighthouse
tenders, including temporary employment when necessary,” and
the appropriation is $997,600, and you are asking for $1,028,100.
Mr. PUTNAM. There is an increase submitted of $30,500. This is
due to the new vessels which are now to go into commission and to
provide Salaries for the radio operators. We are now installing
wireless telegraphy on five of the lighthouse tenders. We consider
it very important for the efficient working of the vessels and the
º of not only the Lighthouse Service vessels but other vessels as
Well. • -
The CHAIRMAN. How many vessels did you say would go into
commission next year? -
Mr. PUTNAM. We estimate that one additional tender will go into
commission before the end of this fiscal year, and during the fiscal
year 1916 three additional tenders and three additional light vessels,
making seven in all. Those six will not be in commission during
the whole of the next fiscal year.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 507.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you retire any of your present tenders?
Mr. PUTNAM. No, sir; we do not expect to. We have held the
number of tenders down for the last four years, but it is now neces-
sary to have some increase. *
Secretary REDFIELD. We have a beautiful wreck which was scrapped
by hitting a rock. Many of these are small vessels. We are adopting
the policy of using the small tenders for inshore work, in order to
reduce the cost of operating the large ships.
Mr. PUTNAM. We estimate that the total pay roll of the vessels in
the service at the end of the fiscal year 1916 will be $1,062,000,
which is somewhat more than the estimate here, but we figure that
the amount of lapsed pay may run anywhere from 1 to 3 per cent of
the total appropriation, this being on account of sickness or vacan-
cmies, temporary causes, and hence I think the amount submitted
is about correct, allowing for the lapse of pay which may occur.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. PUT'NAM. The unexpended balance under “Lighthouse ves-
sels” was $8,494. That is a little less than 1 per cent of the appro-
priation.
The CHAIRMAN. You have not estimated the full amount of your .
estimated pay roll? f
Mr. PUTNAM. No, sir; not within about $34,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that estimated pay roll based upon the tenders
being in commission all the year?
Mr. PUTNAM. No, sir. That includes only the parts of the year
for which the vessels are estimated to be in commission. I have an
estimate here showing the number of months which it is estimated
each of these vessels will be in commission during the fiscal year
1916. The unexpended balance in this case, a little less than 1 per
cent, is about as close as we consider it proper to work on an appro-
priation of $1,000,000, and under the law about exceeding appropria-
tions we do not think it is safe to obligate the appropriation much
closer than that.
INSPECTORS, CLERKs, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Inspectors, clerks, etc.,” and
the appropriation is $375,000, and your estimate is $385,000?
Mr. PUTNAM. We have submitted an estimated increase of $10,000,
That is due to the need of some additional draftsmen and clerks in
the various district lighthouse offices and also some additional con-
struction foremen to carry on the field work in various districts.
The CHAIRMAN. What class of employees did you say, draftsmen?
Mr. PUTNAM. This item covers all the employees in the lighthouse
district offices. There are 19 such offices for the whole United States,
including the outside territory. It also includes the permanent fore-
men who have charge of all the construction work of the service, the
building of vessels, the building of lighthouses, repairing, and up-
keep.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that work increasing?
Mr. PUTNAMr. Yes, sir. As shown with regard to aids to naviga.
tion, there has been a necessary steady increase with the development
of the various parts of the coast. . . .
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Secretary REDFIELD. It is reflected on the chart which you have
before you, Mr. Chairman. -- . . .
Mr. PUTNAM. The balance of the items cover various matters of
legislation which have been taken up by the Interstate Commerce
Committee and practically all of them are included in the light-
house bill now pending in both Houses, having been favorably re-
ported. I presume this committee will not care to go into those items.
ONE LUMP SUM FOR ALL APPROPRIATIONS.
Mr. SHERLEY. You have a recommendation here touching the con-
solidation of certain items in order to bring about economy of book-
keeping and expenditure.
Mr. PUTNAM. We have urged that for several years past. Person-
ally I believe it would be a much more efficient way of conducting the
Bureau of Lighthouses if these four items just considered should
be consolidated, and we also estimate that the total appropriation
might be $25,000 less if these items were consolidated, because with
the separate items we must maintain a margin of safety in each
item. If they were consolidated into a single item, we think that
margin of safety might be made a smaller percentage of the total
amount. •
Mr. GILLETT. That means that the appropration might be less
but not the expenditure. It would be a saving of appropriation and
not of expenditure?
Mr. PUTNAM. That is right; it would be a saving in appropriation,
but not in expenditure; it would lead to greater efficiency of the
service.
Secretary REDFIELD. He would not have so many separate unex-
pended balances. -
Mr. PUTNAM. And the committee could put in whatever safe-
guards they wanted in the general item. They could limit the
amount of salary to be paid under each one of these heads and the
bureau could not exceed the amount fixed. It would permit the
use of unexpended balances in any of these items for the general ex-
penses of the service. *
MoNDAY, JANUARY 11, 1915.
COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY.
STATEMENTS OF HON. W. C. REDFIELD, SECRETARY OF COM-
MERCE; MR. GEORGE JOHANNES, DISBURSING CLERK, DEPART-
MENT OF COMMERCE; MR. O. H. TITTMANN, SUPERINTENDENT;
CAPT. P. A. WELKER, ASSISTANT IN CHARGE OF OFFICE; CAPT.
ROBERT L. FARIS, ASSISTANT INSPECTOR OF HYDROGRAPHY
AND TOPOGRAPHY; AND CAPT, DALLAS B. WAINWRIGHT,
CHIEF OF CHART CONSTRUCTION.
MOTOR-PROPELLEI) . AND I IORSE-DIRAW N V EHICLES.
The CHAIRMAN. In the first paragraph you are asking to have in-
cluded the words: “and including the purchase, maintenance, repair,
SUN DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 509
or operation of motor-propelled or horse-drawn vehicles for use in
field work.” Has the Coast and Geodetic Survey any motor-pro-
pelled vehicles now %
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir; I have a statement here of that, if you
will allow me to read it to you. •
Secretary REDFIELD. They are used in connection with the field
parties who are carrying materials.
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know the number of motor-propelled
vehicles you have.
Mr. TITTMANN. We use motor trucks and velocipede cars.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have you? g
Mr. TITTMANN. We have two velocipede motor cars and one large
motor car in the field for transporting parties from place to place
in the latitude and leveling work.
The CIIAIRMAN. What do you mean by velocipedes?
Mr. TITTMANN. They run along the railroad tracks.
The CHAIºMAN. You have two of those and two automobiles?
Mr. TITT MANN. We have one motor truck.
Secretary REDFIELD. They are not passenger automobiles.
Mr. SHERLEY. Where are they used?
Mr. TITTMANN. In the interior of the country, going from place
to place. They are in the field, not at stations, and they are used
for carrying parties instead of carrying them by rail or hiring
horses and wagons to go from place to place. We carry everything
we can by motor truck. We find that this method expedites the
work very much, and we have been able to accomplish much more at
less cost.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any horse-drawn vehicles?
Mr. TITTMANN. We buy more or less of these every year. When
our parties go out, unless we have enough on hand, we buy horses
and wagons to be used in our field work.
The Ciºnºs. What horses and vehicles have you now %
Mr. TITTMANN. There may be some 10 or 11 horses and mules
out in pasture, and about a dozen Wagons. g
The CHAIRMAN. Do you dispose of them at the end of the season?
Mr. TITTMANN. Horses that can not be used to advantage in that
locality the following season we sell.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give a statement showing the number of
horses you purchased in the last year, and what disposition was
made of them?
Mr. TITTMANN. I can find out for you. I have not that statement
ready, but I can furnish it for you.
The CHAIRMAN. Furnish a statement of that for the record.
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
JANUARY 11, 1915.
S 1 \'l'ſ Mi FN 1 () F I R.A.N SPOR TATION }. QUT IPMENT.
Fiscal yetur (91/.
IIorses. Mules.
On hand July 1, 1913--------------------------------- ---------- 15 4
i’ūI'Chil Ses ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 1. * * * *
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{}i) hand July 1, 1914------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16 4
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Horses. Mules.
Motor truck, 13 tons-------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Motor Velocipede cars----------------------------------------------
{[and velocipede cars:
On hand July 1, 1913______ ----------------------
Purchased.-----------------------------------------------------
Total On hand----- ---* * * * * * *= <= * *m amº sºm, sº * * * * * * * * * = -s. * * *= * * * * * * * * * * *
wagons:
On hand July 1, 1913–------- * * * * *-* * * * * * *-* * * *-* *-* = &º
Purchased.------------------ -------------
Total on hand-----------------------------------------------
Buckboards (employed in Stationing light lceepers)
Carriages (light wagon, 1 horse, employed in transporting supplies to
magnetic observatories in Arizona and HaWaii)
During the fiscal year 1915 we have sold 7 horses, bought 1 mule, and sold 3
mules, leaving on hand at this date 9 horses and 2 mules.
COMMITUTATION TO PERSONS-MAGNETIC OBSERVERS.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to have the word “officers ” changed to
“ persons,” making it read “commutation to persons,” instead of
“commutation to officers.”
Mr. TITTMANN. That was to make it conform to the law. There is
a law in regard to commutation or allowance for subsistence, and
in that law the word “persons * is used. It also makes it applicable,
for instance, to the magnetic observers.
The CIIAIRMAN. Do you grant commutation now to persons others
than officers in the field work? *
Mr. TITTMANN. I think some of the men get commutation. Is
that the case, Mr. Faris?
Capt. FARIs. Not that I know of.
Mr. TITTMANN. It is just granted to officers in the field force.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you want to change it so as to extend it? .
Mr. TITTMANN. We want to allow commutation in certain cases to
the magnetic observers. Is that the case, Capt. Faris?
Capt. FARIs. It is to allow magnetic observers
Mr. TITTMANN (interposing). Men who are traveling about—
Capt. FARIs. Those in the field have commutation now, but not
those at the magnetic observatories. g :
Mr. GILLETT. Does the law make that distinction between them
and those in the field?
Capt. FARIs. I think that is by departmental regulation. The
law says while on field work they shall be allowed commutation,
but these men being at the observatories for a couple of years at a
time, it was decided that that was not field work, and that was the
reason why it was not allowed.
The CHAIRMAN. This change would not cover that?
Capt. FARIs. No, sir. -
Secretary REDFIELD. T suppose it was the feeling here that there
was a distinction made by the word “officers ” which might not
apply to certain employees who might not technically be called
officers, and the idea was to conform to the law and give it the same
scope that the law now has.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 511
Mr. GILLETT. At some time in the past you have been able to use
it that way?
Secretary REDFIELD. I think so.
Mr. FARIS. The question came up in connection with nautical ex-
perts, as to the allowance of their commutation for subsistence.
That came up some time ago. I do not know what disposition was
made of the matter, but that question was up.
Mr. GILLETT. Before the comptroller?
Capt. FARIs. No, sir; it was before our disbursing officer.
surveys AND RESURVEY'S, ATLANTIC AND GULF COASTs—COMPARISON
WITH LARE SURVEY.
[See p. 466.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Field expenses: For surveys
and necessary resurveys of the Atlantic and Gulf coasts of the
United States, including the coasts of outlying islands under the
jurisdiction of the United States,” etc. The current appropriation
is $65,000 and you are asking for $99,000. t
Secretary REDFIELD. The itemized estimates show an increase in
that item of $34,000, as follows:
Increase for Operation of the Vessels upon the Atlantic Coast__________ $3,400
Increase for land parties (Chart revision) ---------------------------- 2, 200
Increase for Wire-drag parties––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––. 23,000
Increase for combined operations (1 party) º “º -ºº º-ºº ºme º sº-, * º º ºsº º º-rº ºms am-- mºs 1, 600
Increase for hydrographic parties–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 5,300
35, 500
Decrease for triangulation, miscellaneous, etc.------------------------ 1, 500
34, 000
The increase for operations of the vessels is really only $2,400
over the amount used in 1914, as the Bureau of Fisheries paid $1,000
toward the expenses of the steamer Bache for coal used while en-
gaged in special work for that bureau. The increased amount is
necessary chiefly in the interest of economy in providing for a some-
what longer season in the field for some of the vessels. It is not
economical for an organized efficient working party to remain idle
during a portion of the year, while disbanding and reorganizing
would be very expensive on account of loss of efficiency, delay in
reorganizing, and the extra travel and transportation incident to
the same. It requires many years to train leadsmen, coxswain,
petty officers, and ordinary seamen for efficient duty in surveying,
and their services could not be retained unless something like perma-
nent employment is assured.
The sale of the steamer Endeavor will not interfere with the exe-
cution of the work contemplated for that steamer, as the same fund
will be utilized by hiring vessels and manning them in the usual
manner. The unit cost will be somewhat greater, but the result will
be commensurate with the fund expended, which will be used for
the same work as originally contemplated for the Endeavor in Dela-
ware Bay, Narragansett Bay, and Long Island Sound, and during
the winter months in southern waters. The Bache will be used in
offshore work on the Atlantic coast, the Hydrographer in Pamlico
512 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
and Long Island Sounds, and the Matchless in Albemarle, Pamlico,
and Tangier Sounds.
The increase of approximately $2,300 for land parties is necessary
for increased revisionary surveys along the Atlantic and Gulf coasts
for examining and surveying changes in shore line and charting aids
to navigation. This is work of very great importance for chart
revision, as in some localities the changes have been so extensive
that the existing charts are not recognized. This is particularly true
of the Gulf coast, where islands and great points have been washed
away by storms and new ones have formed in other localities. Also
upon the northern coast in populated places there have been many
changes due to improvements. Without sufficient funds the aids to
navigation can not be represented upon the charts, with the com-
pleteness and accuracy demanded for reasonably safe navigation.
The chief part of the increase for work on the Atlantic coast is
on account of the necessity of operating an additional wire-drag
party, for which purpose an increase of $23,000 is required. The
A thousands of uncharted dangers to navigation which have been dis-
covered by this means in recent years, in regions previously surveyed,
demonstrates the absolute necessity of this work.
An increase of $1,600 is necessary in order that a party engaged
in important surveys on Long Island Sound may be kept in the field
during the season of five months instead of two and one-half months
as during the year 1914. This will not only result in obtaining much
required data, but in economy, as a considerable part of an available
fund is exhausted in travel and transportation to and from the field
and delay in organization.
An increase of $5,300 is necessary in order that important hydro-
graphic Surveys may be taken up by parties not attached to steamers
but operated by the use of hired motor boats in various localities on
the Atlantic and Gulf coasts, where dangerous shoaling and changes
,in channels have taken place through natural causes. During 1914
one party was operated for one month and one party for two months,
while during the coming year five parties should be operated for
four months each. The numerous shoalings and dangers to naviga-
tion require that this work should be undertaken at an early date.
To partially meet the increase referred to there has been a reduc-
tion of $1,500 in the expenses for triangulation and miscellaneous
work as incurred in the year 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. You have had four vessels engaged in this work?
Secretary REDFIELD. And one of them has been ordered sold—the
Endeavor.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of a vessel was the Endeavor?
Secretary REDFIELD. She was as near a wreck as a vessel could be
and still hang together. She was constructed for a Confederate
gunboat, built in 1862, and was in every way dangerous for further
use. Her condition was indescribable, or perhaps the best descrip-
tion of her can be found in the fact that when she was appraised
for sale, including all of her appurtenances, after we had taken our
instruments off, she was valued at $2,500. Yet. year after year, we
have spent four times that amount on more than one occasion to
keep her in repair. Her withdrawal, however, stopped the work
on Delaware Pay, which we shall have to provide other means of
conducting. *
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 513
May I add one thing more to illustrate further the need of what we
have been doing? The largest item of increase in the estimate is
$23,000 for a wire-drag party on the Atlantic coast. There are 485
miles of coast line on the shores of New England and of New York
State where wire-drag work is required. Of this distance, 80 miles
have been done and 405 miles remain to be done. There are 350
miles of coast on the Florida shore where wire-drag work is required,
and of this distance 20 miles have been done, leaving 330 miles to be
done. The total completed to date is 100 miles, and the total remain-
ing to be done is 735 miles. It is estimated that with our present one
Wire-drag party, that being all we have now, it will take from 20 to 30
years to finish this work, while with two wire-drag parties the work
can be completed in from 10 to 15 years.
Mr. SHEREY. Is any part of this fund used for expenses other
than those in the field?
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir; none that I know of.
Mr. SHERLEY. What is your unit cost of doing this work on the
Atlantic coast' º
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not think I understand what you mean.
Mr. SHERLEY. I mean some statement showing what it costs, on
an average, to do a given amount of work on the coast.
Secretary REDFIELD. I think it would be an extremely difficult
thing to find that. We can give you accurately and in detail the
cost of every ship and the cost of operation in every way.
Mr. SHERLEY. That tells us nothing, Mr. Secretary, as to the
economy of the operations. We were able to secure from the lake
survey people a statement as to the unit cost of their work, and that
work is so similar to this that it seems to me we ought to be able to
get a statement of the unit cost here. g -
Secretary REDFIELD. I must disagree with you most radically, Mr.
Sherley, and I must say that you can not argue from one to the
other in any way at all, because this work is not similar to that, but
in all of its essential features it is unlike it. An argument from One
to the other shows a misunderstanding of the whole fundamental
question. - e tº
Mr. SHERLEY. Perhaps I am misinformed
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). I think you are.
Mr. SHERLEY (continuing). But the lake survey people were able
to furnish a statement of their unit cost, and it occurs to me that
their work is not unlike this, - e
Secretary REDFIELD. Capt. Welker, who has that work in charge,
can explain the difference between the lake work and the ocean work.
Is the lake work similar to the ocean work? . . . * * *
Capt. WELKER. Not unless you could get similar localities. On
the ocean work the localities are entirely different and the character
of the work is different. e - e.
Secretary REDFIELD. The whole nature of the work is different?
Capt. WELKER. I think so. &
Secretary REDFIELD. Are not the tidal currents themselves one
great source of difference?
Capt. WELKER. Yes; and the fearful storms you have there prevent
the work being carried on during a great deal of the time.
Mr. SHERLEy. Of course, that is not limited to the ocean?
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514 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Capt. WELKER. And the fogs, which you do not have on the Lakes. ,
I think you could probably work twice the length of time on the
Lakes and put in twice the number of days that you could on the
Atlantic coast. \
Mr. SHERLEY. I appreciate that thoroughly, and it is not necessary
to enumerate that they are not identical. But here is the surveying
of the ocean bottom in one instance and the lake bottom in the other.
Now, am I to understand that your work is so peculiar that it is
impossible to arrive at any unit of cost?
Secretary REDFIELſ). Not altogether; because in special publica-
tion No. 21, which was sent to you, Mr. Sherley, some days ago, with
a letter from me, on page 6 is given in detail the unit cost of wire-
drag work on the coast of Maine, Block Island Sound and Buzzards
Bay, Florida Reefs and Panama Bay, it being in oneºcase $125, as
this shows, and I will file it with the committee.
The CHAIRMAN. The average cost per square mile on the coast of
Maine was $125; Block Island Sound and Buzzards Bay, $160;
Florida Reefs, $400; and Panama Bay, $70.
Secretary REDFIELD. You could hardly have a better illustration
of the fact that a comparison of unit cost in ocean work is almost, if
not quite, impossible than the statement you have before you, where
you find it varying in the same class of work to such a large degree.
You can not argue, sir, from Lake Erie to Cape Hatteras, or from
the Florida Reefs to Lake Michigan, or from the coast of Maine to
Lake Huron. It is in the very nature of things absurd to attempt
such an argument, and the very attempt itself shows a fundamental
ignorance of the matter.
Mr. SHERLEY. I think it is hardly proper to characterize a question
of mine in that language.
Secretary REDFIELD. But I did not mean your question.
Mr. SHERLEY. But that is the direct result of your answer to my
question. If there are just as many differences between the work
on Lake Superior and on parts of the other lakes as there are between
the work that you do on the Atlantic coast and other parts of the
ocean, it does not seem to me at all out of the Way for a member
of this committee to undertake to find out, if possible, the unit cost
of the work, and, frankly, I do not think it is a subject of criticism.
Secretary REDFIELD. I have made no criticism of the question; I
made a criticism of the statements of those who have misled you. I
will give you with pleasure every item of unit cost which it is feasible
to give; but for over 25 years having been a cost accountant I feel
I am qualified to speak about the difficulty of presenting unit costs
for varying units which are at no two times alike, and that it is
impossible to do such a thing in a Way to make it of any value.
Capt. WELKER. In some localities, it might be possible to do many
miles of hydrographic work in a single day and in other localities
you could not do 1 square mile of hydrography in a single day.
Mr. SHERLEY. I appreciate that thoroughly, but
‘Capt. WELKER (interposing). However, we could make a unit cost
for each individual piece of work.
Mr. SHERLEY. If we had that, we would then have Some Way of
averaging and judging the efficiency with which the work is being
done.
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Capt. WELKER. If you had the same locality you could make a
comparison. %
Secretary REDFIELD. But you could not compare two localities. I
would like to add to my statement, Mr. Chairman, these further
facts: The wire-drag work was organized on the Atlantic coast in
1906, and since that time 3,300 rocks with less water over them than
the charts showed were discovered. Of these, 893 were distinct
menaces to navigation. These last are distributed as follows: Coast
of Maine, 400; coast of Massachusetts, 87; Block Island and Long
Island Sounds, 65; coast of Florida, 300; coast of Porto Rico, 25; and
Panama Bay, 16. …
The CHAIRMAN. In 1906 you organized this service?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes; but 43 square miles were dragged in
1904.
The CHAIRMAN. Then it has been organized about eight years?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; continuous since 1906.
The CHAIRMAN. In that time 100 square miles have been covered ?
Mr. TITTMANN. That is, linear miles. In that original comparison
we were trying to get at some rough estimate as to how much was to
be done, and we took the distance and not the area. About thirteen
hundred square miles have been dragged to date.
Secretary REDFIELD. You see, no two miles would be alike, Mr.
Chairman; no two half miles are alike, and yet again you might find
10 miles that are very nearly alike. No two conditions, under which
you do work at Sea, are alike.
The CHAIRMAN. You had one Wire-drag party at Work during an
entire year?
Secretary REDFIELD. Oh, no.
Mr. TITTMANN. Well, practically; but there were some interrup-
tions. Heck was out all the year, was he not?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir; Heck was out almost an entire year.
The CHAIRMAN. With interruptions from time to time?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes; and shifting from one place to another.
The CHAIRMAN. And is it the intention that the two wire-drag
parties now proposed are to operate during the entire year?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And these two parties, beginning with a full
year's operation, will take from 10 to 15 years to complete the sur-
veys provided under this heading. Now, the total linear mileage
mentioned was 700 or 800%
Secretary REDFIELD. Eight hundred, as I remember it.
The CHAIRMAN. Of which 100 have been completed?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. And now it has become necessary to drag the
entire 700 miles of that coast?
Secretary REDFIELD. I think it has.
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes; that includes the coasts that we intend to
drag.
The CHAIRMAN. The soundings of which indicate that they should
be dragged? - -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Of course, some of these may go much more
rapidly than others, but we can not tell that until we try the work.
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However, it means in substance the Florida coast, the New England
coast, and the New York coast. I think I am right about that, am
I not, Capt. Welker?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir; Long Island Sound especially; that is
very important.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you do any Work at all last year at the en-
trance to the Panama Canal?
Mr. TITTMANN. Not last year, but year before last. I do not
remember the dates. 4
Secretary REDFIELD. It was the year before.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. TITTMANN. On the Atlantic coast, nothing.
The CHAIRMAN. In this appropriation?
Mr. TITTMAN. Twenty-three cents was the last statement, and I
say nothing.
The CHAIRMAN. Practically nothing?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes.
Secretary REDFIELD. We would be very glad to file with you a
statement showing the unexpended balances in all of these appro-
priations.
The CHAIRMAN. We want the unexpended balance under each
appropriation.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand, Mr. Secretary, that you contemplate
some work on the Florida coast with the wire drag. Is not that a
sandy coast and sandy bottom'
Secretary REDFIELD. Coral, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. There are coral reefs and points that you catch
with the wire drag'
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. You also spoke of Long Island Sound. Does Long
Island Sound have a rocky bottom 3
Secretary REDFIELD. Bowlders and rocks. Long Island is a gla-
cial moraine. Long Island Sound was Scooped out by a glacier, and
it left bowlders, and at the west end rocks, a rocky formation. You
will recall that the Government had to blast away Hallets Point to
get through Hell Gate. It was solid rock and had to be blasted.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do I understand this to be your method of pro-
ceeding, that you make your ordinary Soundings to get an idea of
the depths, and then on the coasts and in the localities where you
have reason to believe there are points and reefs you supplement
that work with the drag'
Secretary REDFIELD. I think that is a fair way to state it.
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not use the drag primarily for the purpose
of getting soundings or depths?
Mr. TITTMAN N. No. * *
Mr. MoRDELL. You do it after you have made your ordinary Sur-
vey for depths wherever you believe it necessary to catch points that
you may have missed in your ordinary Soundings?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. But where you supplement the primary work with
a drag it is not necessary to have the primary Soundings as fre-
quently as it might be if you were not going to supplement the pri-
mary work with a drag. Is that true? g
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Mr. TITTMANN. It would all depend upon the locality. 2’
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand that it would be a question of locality.
But as a rule would not that be true?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes; that would be true.
Mr. MoRDELL. The fact that you are subsequently going to use a
drag in certain localities would enable you to safely make your
Soundings at less intervals than you might be required to do if you
did not anticipate a subsequent use of the drag'
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes; that is right.
Mr. MoRDELL. You believe that with two parties you can finish the
work on the Atlantic coast in 15 years?
Secretary REDFIELD. Ten or fifteen years.
Mr. MoRDELL. That does not include anything on the west coast?
Secretary REDFIELD. No; it includes the Gulf, however. There is
a special appropriation for the Pacific coast.
Mr. MoRDELL. Now, after you discover these points and reefs, are
any efforts made to destroy them?
Secretary REDFIELD. That duty lies with the Engineer Corps of the
United States Army.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand. But do you have any method by
which you indicate to them the discovery of dangerous points?
Mr. TITTMANN. I may say, in answer to that, that one of the Gov-
ernment parties at Key West requested our officer, who happened to
be there, to go over that place with a wire drag, which was done, and
they found lumps which compelled them to do more work.
Mr. MoRDELL. Where one of these points or reefs of small area
but of a dangerous character is discovered in a region where there is
considerable shipping it ought to be destroyed if possible.
Mr. TITTMANN. It would be immediately reported, sir. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Of course, that is not the work of your department.
Secretary REDFIELD. We have two duties there—one to find it and
second to mark it, and really a third duty, that of reporting it.
However, that is the procedure we follow. We find it, we mark it,
and we report it. -
Mr. MoRDELL. You do make it a part of your duty to report it?
Secretary REDFIELD. Oh, yes; constantly.
Mr. MoRDELL. When you discover these points and reefs?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; that is constantly done. I want to
say, Mr. Chairman, for the record, before we go on that, I covet the
most searching—nay, I challenge the most searching inquiry into the
details of this work. I assert it is done more cheaply and more
effectively than any other work of the kind on earth. It is widely
known to be so, and it is under criticism all the time, both at home
and abroad, by the leading experts of the world. I want it under-
stood that in no way do we shrink from the most intensive examina-
tion of it. I have myself given it that, so far as I can, and all that
I am worth as an industrial manager has been put into it, so far as
I could. And I do ask of you an equitable inquiry, but not based
upon facts from other services which may or may not be kindly in
their viewpoint. I would undertake to say to you, sir, that as Com-
pared with other survey work done by the Government—and it is a
matter of record here—that we would be glad to undertake to do it
at half its present cost, and that record is in Writing.
518 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. SHERLEY. Mr. Secretary, how do you arrive at its comparative
cheapness, inasmuch as there does not seem to be any basis for a com-
parison between this and other services? ; -
Secretary REDFIELD. Very easily, Mr. Sherley, and I am very
thankful to have any questions asked. It is a fundamental basis of
cost accounting, Mr. Sherley, that you can not compare things which
are unlike, and it ought not to be necessary to say any more. You
can not, even where you have the most searching methods, compare
things which are in their nature different, nor can you compare
the changing with the unchanging, the fixed with the movable, but
you can compare individual processes. I should be very glad to give
you an illustration of what I mean, because I intended to bring it
up anyhow. After this is over and we come to the fisheries, I shall
present to you a statement asking—or I shall submit a statement for
your consideration; I will not ask anything. I will suggest a method
whereby two vessels in the fisheries service—and I purposely mention
that to detach it from any views that may be held about this service—
can be operated at one-third of their present cost, and the reason is
this—and this is in answer to Mr. Sherley's question, an answer
which it is very easy to give, and I invite the committee to send for
the correspondence between myself and the Secretary of the Navy
on this question: On the Albatross, of the Fisheries Service, we have
a naval crew of 80 men. It is an excellent crew, and they have done
admirable work. On the Fish, Hawk we have a naval crew of 40
men; it is an admirable crew and the officers have done admirable
work. There is no criticism to be made at all, but if we ourselves
operated them we should have on the one vessel 20 men and on the
other about 12, as we do on our other ships. There is a basis for
economy. They say they need men in the Navy. Very good; take
them off of our ships and put them where they belong and let us run
our ships with one-third the force, and we will be very glad to do it.
You have got there the same process and you can compare it.
You can also draw a comparison as to the work of the Hydrographic
Survey, if you please, and I want it understood that I have the most
cordial admiration for that service, and I think we should all agree
that there is no better work done, but I do say that when you com-
pare the same processes and the various ways of carrying them out
that it would be feasible for us to do that work and do it at half the
cost, because we would not use naval crews.
The CHAIRMAN. The lake survey is in a different category !
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. I am not sufficiently familiar with
its operation to say anything about it. But I say that you can com-
pare processes. *
Mr. SHERLEY. The reason I asked the question was that you stated
your work was cheaper than that done by any other Government or
branch of this Government, and I wondered whether you had exam-
ined the work of the others in order to place yourself in a position
to make that statement, particularly in view of the difficulty in ar-
riving at unit costs. -
Secretary REDFIELD. I did not quite say, Mr. Sherley, that it was
cheaper; I said it was more efficient.
Mr. SHERLEy. I think one thing ought to be said in the record. . I
do not know of any basis for the assumption that you seem to be
under, Mr. Secretary, that anyone here present is hostile
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Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). I do not assume that.
Mr. SHERLEY. But, in a sense, your answer implied it.
Secretary REDFIELD. Then I beg your pardon, and I would be very
glad to say for the record that I assume only a proper attitude of
inquiry, which I am anxious in the fullest degree to meet, and noth-
ing that I may have said would willingly on my part bear any other
interpretation.
SURVEY'S AND RESURVEYS ON THE PACIFIC COAST-ALASKA, PHILIPPINE,
AND HAWAIIAN COASTS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For surveys and necessary re-
surveys of coasts on the Pacific Ocean under the jurisdiction of the
United States.” The appropriation is $165,000, and your estimate
is $225,000. -
Secretary REDFIELD. I would call your attention to the fact that
there was an unexpended balance of $1.19 in this appropriation out
of the $165,000. Under this head an increase of $60,000 is asked.
Of this amount, $58,000 is required for the outfit and expenses of
two wire-drag parties along the Pacific coast. These two parties
are to be used during the favorable season in Alaskan waters and
then brought down to make wire-drag surveys along the shores of
the Washington and Oregon coasts. The needs for wire-drag Serv-
ice in Alaska are great. Wrecks to many vessels striking pinnacle
rocks, involving losses to large vessels, and in many cases human
lives, are of frequent occurrence. Two Government vessels, the light-
house tender Armeria and the revenue cutter Tahoma, were lost re-
cently. Both vessels were good for many years of efficient Service
for the Government. The lighthouse tender Armeria will have to
be replaced by a vessel costing $250,000. The replacing of the reve-
nue cutter Tahoma will cost in excess of that amount.
I would call your attention to my annual report, pages 130 to 156,
wherein is included the report of the captain commandant of the
Revenue-Cutter Service about the Tahoma, and a very complete
statement of the whole case. It is not necessary for me to go into it.
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles of coast line in Alaska is it
estimated must be dragged by the wire-drag process?
Sercetary REDFIELD. I think I shall have to answer that by Say-
ing some thousands. I do not think anybody knows. Mr. Titt-
mann, do you know? -
Mr. TITTMANN. No ; I do not.
Secretary REDFIELD. Do any of you gentlemen know?
Capt. WALKER. No. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much has been surveyed by the other
process?
Secretary REDFIELD. We have charts of that. I show you a chart,
Mr. Chairman, which I wish it were possible to put in the record,
of Southeast Alaska, three-quarters
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Three-quarters has been surveyed?
Secretary REDFIELD. It has been covered by a preliminary recon-
moisance to determine the deep channels, but it has not been Sur-
veyed. We have begun a survey on the south coast of Alaska
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). When did that work begiºn'
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Mr. TITTMANN. It was begun immediately after acquisition, prob-
ably in 1868 or 1869, when parties first went up there.
Secretary REDFIELD. On the south coast 56 per cent has been cov-
ered by a reconnoisance to determine the deep channels; off the
Aleutian Islands 8 per cent has been so covered, and in the Bering
Sea 50 per cent has been so covered. I would point out that that is
not a survey; it is only a preliminary reconnoisance to determine
where the deep channels are, and all of it will have to be gone over
with the wire drag.
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles of coast line are there in
Alaska? ** = ->
Secretary REDFIELD. Twenty-six thousand.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it estimated that all of that will have to be
done by the wire drag'
Secretary REDFIELD. I presume not the Arctic shores, but perhaps
half of that. - º
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes. The routes of travel in southeast Alaska,
and from Seattle up, will have to be dragged.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any estimate as to how many miles
it is? e
Mr. TITTMANN. No ; I have not.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not see how you could estimate that,
Mr. Chairman. Capt. Faris, could you estimate how many miles
would be required to be dragged there?
Capt. FARIs. No, Mr. Secretary. because some of it has not had a
preliminary examination made as yet.
Secretary REDFIELD. Much of it has not had a preliminary ex-
amination made. I called your attention to the chart to show that a
large portion of this has not even been gone over in a preliminary
way.
The CHAIRMAN. I understood you to say that the wire-drag method
was used where your soundings ordinarily indicated the advisability
of covering that particular section with a wire drag. -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes. - -
Secretary REDFIELD. That is the case with the whole Alaskan
coast so far as we see it, is it not? -
Mr. TITTMANN. Practically.
The CHAIRMAN. It will all have to be done?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. There is a large part of the Alaskan coast which
has a very light amount of travel, is there not? That will always
be so, and therefore it is not necessary for that part to be accurately
surveyed, is it? -
Mr. TITTMANN. I think that any places where vessels go will have
to be surveyed as accurately as it is possible to do it.
Mr. GILLETT. Even if a vessel goes there but twice a year?
Mr. TITT MANN. Yes. º
Secretary REDFIELD. I think, perhaps, you gentlemen do not quite
understand each other. -
The CHAIRMAN. There is no misunderstanding between us.
Secretary REDFIELD. No; but I am speaking of the answer made by
the superintendent to Mr. Gillett's question, that even when there is
a small amount of commerce there should be an accurate Survey,
but aside from that the Government vessels constantly have to go
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into such places; vessels of the Fisheries Service, the Navy, and the
Revenue-Cutter Service are constantly going there, and fishing ves-
sels going everywhere, even to places where there is no actual com-
merce. Furthermore
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). I did not say anything about com-
merce; I said places where vessels only go twice a year, and Mr.
Tittmann said he thought such places ought to be surveyed.
Secretary REDFIELD. If you refer to the Arctic shores, of course, it
is impossible to survey them, I take it.
Mr. TITTMANN. I do not mean that; I mean ports of call, where
vessels go in very rarely. I think such places ought to be surveyed.
Secretary REDFIELD. He only means where there is actual naviga-
tion.
The CHAIRMAN. I am talking about the coast line covered by this
statement, southeast Alaska, the Aleutian Islands, and Bering Sea.
How many miles do you think there are there, because the statement
says that practically all of it will have to be gone over by the wire-
drag method.
Mr. TITTMANN. There are some thousands of miles.
The CHAIRMAN. I know; there are 26,000 miles altogether, but
there must be some kind of an estimate.
Secretary REDFIELD. You may find that on the map shown in my
report, which takes in the section that you have just mentioned. It
reaches from Charleston to San Diego.
The CHAIRMAN. How far would that be?
Secretary REDFIELD. That would be a little over 3,000 miles; but in
addition to that, inasmuch as there are indentations in the coast all
along the line it is probably equal to double that.
The CHAIRMAN. Six thousand miles?
Secretary REDFIELD. At least that, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles do you estimate can be done a
a year by these two parties?
Mr. TITTMANN. Double what we did last year. How many miles
did the wire-drag parties do in the year?
Capt. FARIs. I can give that to you better on a unit daily basis, but
I do not think they did over 10 miles a day in length. It would
depend upon the width of the drag that they could use. If it was
one mile wide, they could probably do 10 square miles a day, and
work perhaps 15 days a month. Then you can multiply that
Secretary REDFIELD. Do you mean by that that they could do 100
miles a month’ -
Capt. FARIs. No, sir; they certainly could not.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you estimate it will take about 15 years to
do 700 miles on the Atlantic and Gulf coasts? I want to try to get
some idea of how long it will take to do this work?
Secretary REDFIELD. Would you say that 10 years’ work, with two
parties, would do the major portion of what is required to be done
in Alaska.'
Capt. FARIs. Perhaps it would for the 10-year period, but by that
time conditions would be such that you would find more that it
would be important to do. That is the way we look at it. * -
Mr. SHERLEY. Have to do it over again?
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Capt. FARIs. Not that, but we would find some other port which
we did not think was so important just now being used by commerce
which would have to be done. .
The CHAIRMAN. You say now that practically all has to be done?
Capt. FARIs. That is our anticipation.
The CHAIRMAN. You will not be able to work more rapidly in
Alaska than on the Atlantic coast'
Capt. FARIs. We should work with the wire drag more rapidly in
Alaska. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why? .
Capt. FARIs. Because there are fewer obstructions. We do not
anticipate So many per square mile, for instance, as at Key West,
where it is coral, or in Maine, where there are numerous bowlders
Sticking up. -
The CHAIRMAN. There are many pinnacle rocks in Alaska, are
there not?
Capt. FARIs. There are a lot of them, but not so many to the
square mile. . -
The CHAIRMAN. But nobody knows that?
Capt. FARIs. The preliminary surveys that we have made indicate
that. - +
The CHAIRMAN. Do you think you are going to work 10 times more
quickly in Alaska than on the Atlantic coast? -
Capt. FARIs. I do not know.
Mr. GILLETT. How large a portion of the year can you work in
Alaska? *
Capt. FARIs. In southeastern Alaska, we have been working from
about the middle of April to the middle of October.
Mr. TITTMANN. Six months.
Capt. FARIs. In Bering Sea we can not work so long, because, in
the first place, we can not get in there on account of the ice, and we
have to leave earlier in the fall on account of the ice. It is not
economical to work there in the dead of winter, because the ther-
mometer is too low. Six months, I think, is the maximum for any
part of Alaska during a year, as I know it.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you have one party up there one month?
Mr. TITTMANN. We had a party up there one month in a particular
fiscal year and continued for three months in the next fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. Four months altogether?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. How much work was done by that party?
Secretary REDFIELD. About 40 miles in length of a narrow chan-
nel. I appreciate your difficulties, Mr. Chairman, in getting in-
formation. We are troubled to answer your questions for this
reason, what we need are instruments for finding the unknown, and
so long as it is unknown we can not predicate anything upon what
we shall find. That is the difficulty.
The CHAIRMAN. We desire some information about the situation in
Alaska because of all the agitation for this wire drag up there.
Secretary REDFIELD. We are very anxious to give it to you, Mr.
Chairman. * r -
The CHAIRMAN. With all the information we have about the At-
lantic coast surveying which has been going on for 107, or 108 years,
we still can only make this wire drag at the rate of about 35 miles
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a year with two parties, and we are trying to get some idea as to how
Hong it would take to make this particular kind of a survey of 6,000
miles in Alaska, only working six months during a year.
Secretary REDFIELD. It is very difficult to answer: On the other
hand, I can help you in this way. If you will look at the chart of
Portland harbor, which I showed you, you will find a great many
of these obstructions close together, whole rows of them running
close together. Of course, a survey of that takes time. In Alaska,
on the chart which I now show you, we found 14 of these in a space
approximately 24 miles long.
The CHAIRMAN. In the channel?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How wide?
Secretary REDFIELD. From 1 to 5 miles wide.
The CHAIRMAN. That is just dragging down the channel; but sup-
pose you went into some of the bays and harbors?
Secretary REDFIELD. We entered one harbor and found two in it.
I do not think any living man could say except that so far as we
have gone it looks as if it would go much faster. Is that a safe state-
ment, Captain?
Capt. FARIs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. These parties are expected to Work six months in
Alaska, and then what is to be done with them?
Secretary REDFIELD. They are to be brought down to the Wash-
ington and Oregon coasts. I have a statement here of the policy to
be pursued on that work, which I shall be glad to put into the record.
The CHAIRMAN. You had better state it, Mr. Secretary.
Secretary REDFIELD. The statement is this:
There are areas in all those parts of Alaska having rocky shores
which should be swept by means of the wire drag. Such areas will
be found scattered through all of Southeast Alaska and the coast
westward, Prince William Sound, Kodiak Island, Alaska Peninsula,
and Aleutian Islands. &
By the usual methods of survey with the lead the deeper areas are
found and generally require no additional work, but the remaining
doubtful areas should be swept. Depending on the adjacent hydro-
graphy and topography, doubtful areas may be defined by the 10-
fathom or 20-fathom curve in places, but there are known areas in
southeast Alaska, Prince William Sound, and other places where the
50-fathom curve must be accepted as the danger curve within which
areas must be swept. The selection of doubtful areas only for sweep-
ing with the wire drag promotes the rapid execution of the work and
consequent economy and highest efficiency.
The areas to be covered are so vast that only the principal routes
of vessels in southeast Alaska, Prince William Sound, and possibly
Cook Inlet can be considered at first. Moreover, it will take many
years to drag completely these localities, and at first all that can be
attempted is to sweep a safe track in the principal route to and from
each harbor and principal channel, and to inform navigators ac-
cordingly.
The following main channels of traffic and ports of call are locali-
ties where drag work should be done at the earliest opportunity:
In answer to Mr. Mondell’s question, the wire-drag work is the
finishing touch to any survey, and must be preceded by the usual
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processes of base measurement, triangulation, topography, and
hydrography. There are extensive unsurveyed and reconnoissance-
Surveyed areas in Southeast Alaska, the coast from southeast Alaska
to and including Alaska Peninsula, and Bering Sea; and all of Aleu-
tian Islands and Arctic Ocean are unsurveyed.
Principal routes through southeast Alaska, including that along the west
coast of Prince of Wales Island.—Hadley, Yes Bay, Kasaan Bay, Lake Bay,
Snow Passage, Shakan Bay, Port Beauclerc, Gambier Bay, Stephens Passage in
depths less than 20 fathoms, Bay of Pillars, Funter Bay, Favorite Channel,
Saginaw Channel; vicinity of Sentinel Island, Lynn Canal; Battery Point and
Indian Rock, Lynn Canal; Icy Strait; Prince William Sound, principal routes,
including areas on the routes from Hinchinbrook entrance to Cordova, Valdez,
and Passage Canal; Tatitlek Narrows.
Mr. GILLETT. By “unsurveyed? do you mean that the superficial
area has not been surveyed?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
º CHAIRMAN. Then, the running of the drag would be of no
V2, IULe
Secretary REDFIELD. Not yet.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean that the maps are not accurate?
Mr. TITTMANN. No; they are not. You refer to the Aleutian
Islands?
Mr. GILLETT. Yes, sir.
Mr. TITTMANN. They are based on the earlier Russian surveys of
the Aleutian Islands and they are inaccurate. It is right in there
where the Tahoma was lost.
Secretary REDFIELD. The captain of the Tahoma supposed from the
chart that she was 35 miles offshore.
In answer to your further question, the above areas suggested for
immediate wire-drag work are based upon present traffic and lines of
travel, and alterations in the list will be made without hesitation in
response to further information or the demands of commerce.
Jøstimate of cost of nºire-drag work, in Alaska during fiscal year 1915–1916.
M ON TEI LY lºw PEN SES.
Hire, 1 schooner---------------------------------------------------- $1,200
Hire, 3 launches---------------------------------------------------- 1, 440
Party pay and board, 14 men--------------- * * * * * * * * * * * *-s º ºs- - - -º 1, 040
Subsistence, chief --------------------------------------------------- 62
Subsistence, 1 aid--------------------------------------------------- 3
Actual Subsistence, 5 ship's Officers, at $45 each------------------------ 225
Oil or coal, fuel----------------------------------------------------- 305
Repairs and maintenance of Outfit in field----------------------------- 125
Signal materials, freight, and wharfage------------------------------ 89
4, 525
2 parties, 6 months at $4,525––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 54, 300
Renewal of equipment, 2 parties------------------------------------- 1, 200
Travel ------------------------------------------------------------- 1, 000
Equipment for 3 vessels---------------------------------------------- 1, 800
5S, 300
The CHAIRMAN. Has any estimate been made of the time it will
take to drag those particular localities? j
Mr. TITTMANN. I made no detailed estimate because the work is so
vast that in two or three or four seasons we can only begin it, and
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 525
next year there might be demands from others ports of call and we
would want to shift our plans.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not have any change of plans if you are
going to proceed on the policy of sweeping the channels first?
Mr. TITTMANN. That is what we intend to do.
The CHAIRMAN. Why can not you estimate how long it would take
to do that?
Mr. TITTMANN. After we have had another season, I think we can
come pretty close to it.
The CHAIRMAN. If you can make an estimate next year you can
make it now just as well?
Secretary REDFIELD. It is pretty hard to prophesy what we are here
admitting we know nothing about.
The CHAIRMAN. If I had been engaged in coast survey matters all
my life and I had information about the character of the territory
I would be willing to make some kind of an estimate based upon my
experience and judgment.
Capt. WELKER. It is difficult to make an estimate, because only
certain parts of the channel are swept. The whole channel is not
to be swept. It is only a place here and there in the channel. The
entire channel would not be swept—only where there are indications.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you know, when nobody knows where
the pinnacle rocks are? -
Capt. WELKER. The preliminary Survey shows a spot here and
there in the channel.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand the surveys will not disclose the
rocks because they occur in places where there is near by 160 feet of
water, and the survey would not indicate that there was a pinnacle
rock there? -
Secretary REDFIELD. The preliminary survey shows the nature of
the formation.
The CHAIRMAN. No; not if there are one or two pinnacle rocks in
1,000 miles—here and there—and all the rest is deep Water.
Secretary REDFIELD. We know the rock formation, and we can tell
whether there are likely to be pinnacle formations there or not.
Mr. GILLETT. If it is a mud bottom, you know there is no danger?
Secretary REDFIELD. If it is a mud bottom or a sand bottom, there
is no danger; but if you have a geologic formation, where there is a
peak sticking up through soft rock, then you know that the Soft
rock has probably fallen away and left the hard rock sticking up.
The CHAIRMAN. But suppose you do not find any ? These things
are sticking up where nobody has any reason to expect them.
Capt. WELKER. You make a sounding four or five hundred fath-
oms, and if in that locality you found 70 or 80, or even 100, that
would show that you required more development, and that locality
should be swept.
The CHAIRMAN. In Portland Harbor you did not have any such
depth?
apt. WELKER. We found deep water.
Secretary REDFIELD. We found 140 feet of water alongside of 42
feet of water in Portland Harbor. -
The CHAIRMAN. And you found 160 feet alongside of 60 feet?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. The formations are alike, except
that the Alaskan formation is on a larger Scale.
526 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. You make an estimate as to how long it will take
you to finish the Atlantic and Gulf coasts? --
Secretary REDFIELD. We know more about that.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these vessels going to work on the Oregon and
Washington coast lines when they are not able to work in Alaska;
that is, during the winter months? -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. º *
The CHAIRMAN. Is it not a fact that fog will prevent their work-
ing there? *
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir; there is much less fog in that region in
winter than in summer.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you not sent your boats from the north-
western coast line to the south in the winter months heretofore be-
cause they could not work in the fog? i
Mr. TITTMANN. We have not done it recently. -
The CHAIRMAN. How recently have you been working up there in
the winter?
Mr. TITTMANN. Along the Washington and Oregon coast lines?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. TITTMANN. So far as funds would allow we have employed
them in Washington and Oregon waters each winter. Last winter
the Gedney worked in Bellingham Bay, the winter before at Tacoma
and Olympia. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many years?
Mr. TITTMANN. I do not know, but certainly for the last four or
five years at least one or two vessels.
Secretary REDFIELD. That is simply because we have not the money
to do more. We are prepared to cover the locality.
The CHAIRMAN. I know, Mr. Secretary, that has not been the testi-
mony before this committee in prior years.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know what the testimony has been,
but that is the fact. -
The CHAIRMAN. The statement was made by Dr. Tittmann that
those boats were sent down to California because of the impossi-
bility of working on the Washington and Oregon coasts in the Winter-
time.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know what has taken place.
The CHAIRMAN. The same gentleman is still before us.
Secretary REDFIELD. The two vessels up there could not live at
sea and go to California. It is not physically possible to Send them
there, but there is work, as mentioned in my report in detail, which
they can do in Grays Harbor, Willapa Bay, and Columbia River.
and which they could be doing at the present moment if they were
not laid up on account of lack of money.
Mr. SHERLEY. Then, are we to understand that the Superintendent's
previous statement was a misstatement?
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know. e
Mr. TITTMANN. If you will please refer me to that particular testi-
mony which is at variance with this, perhaps I can explain it. Per-
haps you have in mind my statement that the winter Season is un-
favorable, but I also stated that we could use the vessels in the bays
and harbors. I think I did give testimony to the effect that it was
more expensive, and that is very true.
The CHAIRMAN. No; that is was impossible.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 527
Secretary REDFIELD. You have here the captains of two vessels.
Have either of you gentlemen ever commanded the Gedney or the
MoA ºffhºu?? -
Capt. WELKER. I was out there many years ago in Puget Sound.
Secretary REDFIELD. I have personally examined the Gedney and
the McArthur myself. Neither of those vessels can be sent to the
California coast, because they are not safe to go to sea in any rough
Weather. r
The CHAIRMAN. What vessels are to be used in Alaska.'
Secretary REDFIELD. On the wire-drag work?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. .
Secretary REDFIELD. Small launches, not the surveying steamers.
The CHAIRMAN. Are the same vessels to be used on this work on.
the Washington and Oregon coasts?
Secretary REDFIELD. On the wire-drag work in the wintertime;
yes, sir. There will be no occasion for them to go to California.
The CHAIRMAN. Why will it cost more for two wire-drag parties
for six months on the Pacific coast than it costs for the entire year
on the Atlantic coast' p
Secretary REDFIELD. Where do you get that, Mr. Chairman?
The CHAIRMAN. It is $10,000 more for six months; two parties,
including outfits, six months, $58,300; and on the Atlantic coast two
parties, a statement was made practically for the entire year, $48,000.
In other words, on the Atlantic coast $48,000 for the entire year,
and on the Pacific coast $58,300 for six months.
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Chairman, the difference arises from the
fact that work in Alaska costs a good deal more by reason of the
isolated nature of the localities. There are no places in Alaska, where
the men can live on shore as they do on the Atlantic coast, and we
have to provide a boarding vessel for the men to live upon. That
applies, as I understand it, to each of the parties.
Capt. WELKER. We have to get the launches at Seattle and run
them to Alaska and that makes it much more expensive.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you require a large vessel in addition?
Capt. WELKER. They must be of sufficient power to run from
Seattle up there. On the Atlantic coast we hire them on the spot.
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Chairman, you are aware of the fact that
the wages of seamen are very much higher on the Pacific coast than
on the Atlantic coast! -
The CHAIRMAN. That would not account for a difference of $10,000
more for a six months’ period than for the entire year on the other
COast.
Mr. TITTMANN. The details are all worked out in that paper.
Secretary REDFIELD. As compared with that you have before you,
Mr. Chairman. The Atlantic table is in the estimates.
The CHAIRMAN. Outside of the hire of the schooner—does that
schooner go from Seattle?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. $1,200 a month?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; $7,200 each for the season.
The CHAIRMAN. $7,200. There is not anything to indicate why
the cost of maintaining these parties is double in one case what it is
in the other? -
Secretary REDFIELD. It is $10,000 more, not double.
528 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. That is for a 6 months’ period against 12 months.
Secretary REDFIELD. I see what you mean.
TMr. TITTMANN. You have to provide for the people living on board
Some vessel, because they have not any place on shore. That costs
Some money.
The CHAIRMAN. I know it does.
Mr. SHERLEY. How much does it cost?
Mr. TITTMANN. Approximately $1,500 a month each. There is a
statement among the papers presented, that is as near as we can esti-
mate it.
Secretary REDFIELD. You include in the $58,000 the maintenance of
the Schooners also, which is entirely separate work and has no rela-
tion.
The CHAIRMAN. This figures up for the six months $58,000.
Secretary REDFIELD. Including the cost of running two schooners.
The CHAIRMAN. The schooner and three launches?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; for each party.
Mr. TITTMANN. That is what we figured out for six months.
The CHAIRMAN. It cost you $48,000 to maintain 2 parties 12
months on the Atlantic coast, and if you eliminate $7,200 for the
cost of the schooner in the Alaska work you have practically the
same cost for 6 months on the Pacific coast as against a year on the
Atlantic coast. -
Mr. SHERLEY. $2,000 more.
The CHAIRMAN. Your estimate of $48,000 is for the entire year?
|Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. For two parties for one year on the Atlantic
coast $48,000, and for six months on the Pacific coast $58,000. You
can not reconcile those figures? -
Mr. TITTMANN. It is based on the estimated cost of those vessels
and the number of men.
Mr. SHERLEY. Please tell us why there should be that additional
cost in Alaska as against the Atlantic coast.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Secretary, will you please submit a statement
covering this matter?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; I shall be glad to do so.
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE,
OFFICE of THE DISBURSING CLERK,
Washington, January 16, 1915.
My DEAB MR. FITZGERALD : By direction of the Secretary I transmit hereWith
the following statement showing reasons for the difference in the estimate for
wire-drag work on the Atlantic coast and the Alaskan coast referred to in the
hearings on the Coast and Geodetic Survey appropriations last Monday. If
the statement does not appear absolutely clear to you, I will be glad to be
advised in order that any additional information available can be furnished.
Reasons for higher estimates for wire-drag work in Alaska over that for
the same work for the Atlantic COaSt:
1. In Alaska a schooner at a cost of $1,200 per month has to be provided for
each working party on which to quarter the working force and to carry Sup-
plies. This expense is not necessary on the Atlantic Coast, as lodging accom-
modations can be provided for On Shore.
2. In Alaska three more men are needed in each working party Over the
number needed on the Atlantic coast. These are required to prepare the Sub-
sistence of the working parties. This necessitates hiring three additional men
at approximately $SO per month each, and paying for their subsistence at
approximately $36 per month each.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 529
3. The average cost of hiring of launches in Alaska in 1914 was more than
300 per cent Over the cost for launches on the Atlantic coast. The average
Cost Of hiring three launches on the Atlantic coast during the year 1914 was
based upon actual launch hire in Florida, New England, and Massachusetts,
and amounted to $446 per month. The actual cost of hiring three launches in
Alaska was $1,845 per month.
4. In Alaska, owing to greater distances, more fuel and oil are necessary,
and as the price for fuel is about 100 per cent higher on the Alaskan working
grounds than on the working grounds of the Atlantic coast, a considerable in-
Crease is necessary for this item.
5. In Alaska Signal-building materials must be procured in greater quantity
and at greater expense. On the Atlantic coast many towers, church steeples,
Standpipes, Chimneys, etc., furnish adequate signals and therefore avoid the
necessity for Construction of signals, which is necessary on the Alaskan coast.
The following table shows an itemized estimate of wire-drag work for 1916
On the Pacific and the Atlantic coast : - -
M Onthly 64 pense of one party.
Pacific Coast :
|Hire of 1 schooner------------------------------------------- $1,200.00
Hire of 3 launches–––––––––––––––––––––––– - - 1,440.00
Pay of field party and board of 14 men 1, 040. 00
Commutation of subsistence for chief of party----------------- 62. 00
Commutation of Subsistence, 1 aid–––– 30.00
Actual subsistence of 5 ship’s Officers, at $45 per month_________ 225. 00
Oil and fuel * * mºs - * 305.00
Repair and maintenance of the drag Outfit - 125. 00
Signal materials and freight-------------- 98. 00
TOtal ºr sº mm amº mºm m = me sm emº ºme emº m --> * * * * * *- * *-* * * * 4, 525.00
For 2 parties for 6 months, at the above rate the cost is—--_____ 54, 300.00
Necessary annual expenses : k
Pacific coast—
Renewal of equipment for 2 parties----------------------- 1, 200. 00
Traveling eXpenses–––––––––––––––––––– 1, 000. 00
Equipping 3 vessels with 1 new wire drag Outfit------------ 1, 800. 00
Grand total.-------------------------------------------- 5S, 300.00
Atlantic COast :
Hire of 3 launches––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 510. 04)
Pay Of field party and board of 11 men------------------------ S30. 00
Commutation of subsistence for chief of party----------------- 77. 50
Commutation of subsistence, 1 aid 60. 00
Actual subsistence of 5 ship's officers, at $45 per month--------- 225.00
Oil and fuel 191. 00
Repair and maintenance of the drag Outfit— - - 125. 00
Signal materials and freight——------------------------------- 61. 00
TOtal s— = - - - - - - = − = a- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2,079. 50
For 2 parties for 1 year at the above rate the cost is---------- 49,908. 00
Necessary annual expenses:
Atlantic COaSt
Renewal of equipment for 2 parties----------------------- 1, 800.00
Traveling eXpenses––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– S00. 00
Grand total–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 52, 508. 00
With reference to hire of lounches it might be stated that the average rental
of three launches on the Atlantic coast, taking the amount paid in Florida,
New England, and Massachusetts, was $446 per month. The actual cost in
1914 of launch hire in Alaska was as follows:
One gasoline launch, 35 feet long, 12 horsepower, $240 per month.
One gasoline launch, 65 feet long, 75 horsepower, $600 per month.
One steam launch, 88 feet long, 200 horsepower, $1,005 per month.
This makes a total of $1,845 per month.
72785–15 34
530 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Pay roll figures showing actual disbursements for compensation of employees
and board during September, 1914, show the following figures:
Pay of hands, wire-drug world.
| I’rom pay rolls for September, 1914.] \

Coast of Maine. - Alaska.
Board
Number] Rate of Amount |Number | Rate of Amount
Days. * Days. *
hands. pay. paid. hands. pay. paid. Rate Days Amount
per day. paid
2-------- $80 30 $160.00 2 || $85 30| sizo.00 so.60 ( ; ; } sy.00
7-------. 75 30 525.00 : 65 § #. 00 . 60 30 ; 00
50 0 00.00 . 60 30 .00
2-------- 70 30 | 1.40.00 { 2 55 30 || 110.00 . (50 30 36.00
Total - - - - - --------- 825.00 2 45 30 90.00 . 60 30 36.00,
The pay on the Atlantic coast in- O 4() 30 80.00 . 60 30 36.00
cluded board. *ms-º-º-º-º-º-m-mºº
780.00 243.00
Total for Alaska.................!... ------|------ ... 1,023.00


In Alaska the subsistence of the chief of party is at the rate of $2 per day,
as he is living On the hired Schoolher. The subsistence of the aid for the Same
reason is $1 per day. On the Atlantic coast the subsistence of the chief of
party is $2.50 per day and of the aid $2 per day, as the bureau does not provide
living quarters. The subsistence of five ships' officers to be paid covers sub-
sistence of five regular salaried employees detailed to Wire drag Work in
addition to the hired employees above referred to. *
The item “repair and maintenance ’’ COvel's the replacing Of lost buoys,
repairs of damaged buoys, replacing broken wire, cable, ropes, shackles, etc.
The breaking of parts makes constant repairs a daily necessity.
Renewal of equipment covers tools, canvas, paints, brushes, oils, anchors,
chains, ship clandlery of all kinds, etc., and other things which are being
expended on the work. Equipment of three vessels with wire-drag COverS a
complete wire-drag outfit, as the Coast Survey only has one complete wire-drag
Outfit now ill use in Alaska.
On the Atlantic coast there is an estimated reduction from the sum of $52,508
of $4,508, due to time required to organize, disband, and reorganize on change
of locality of work. This reduction can not be made in Alaska because the
Work is started and completed and the season is over before a Change Ol' dis-
banding of the force is made. Rent of power launches is greater in Alaska
because of the risk involved of their loss and the lack Of Competition, Owing to
the Small number of launches available for the Work. In addition to this larger
launches with greater power are necessary on the Pacific coast. On the Atlantic
coast launches from 10 to 60 horsepower are sufficient, while on the Pacific
coast it takes launches from 12 to 200 horsepower for the Work.
Very truly, yours, -
G. JoBIANNES, Disbursing Clerk.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
FIouse of Representatives, Washing lon, D. C.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Secretary, you propose to use the Easplorer,
the Gedney, and the McArthur four months on the California, Ore-
gon, and Washington coasts?
Secretary REDFIELD. About that.
The CHAIRMAN. That will be exclusive of the time they are en-
gaged in the Alaska work?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; that is, we shall not be able to use
those vessels, Mr. Chairman, because they are not able to go to Sea.
We shall have to charter vessels in their places.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 531
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking the $11,000 for that purpose?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; it is the same matter whether we use
those ships or charter others.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you charter a vessel for the same amount that
you can operate one? *
Secretary REDFIELD. We do not know. This is an emergency which
has confronted us since this estimate was prepared. The vessels have
been condemned to all intents and purposes and we will have to get
along. s
The CHAIRMAN. The Eaplorer, Gedney, McArthur, and Patterson
are all in contemplation for use in Alaska? - |
Mr. Tºtt MANN. Yes, sir. #.
. The CHAIRMAN. If they go to Alaska, can not they work outside?
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir. The Patterson and the Eaplorer can,
but the Gedney and McArthur we have had to give instructions since
they were condemned, or substantially condemned, not to send them
out in rough Weather.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not figure on using the Patterson at all?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; $14,400 for the Patterson.
The CHAIRMAN. That is six months in Hawaii and six months in
Alaska, is it?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. The Eaplorer and Patterson can be
used all the year anywhere. -
The CHAIRMAN. You use the Patterson in the Hawaiian Islands
when not in Alaska; that has been the practice every year?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In the Philippine Islands you use the Pathfinder
all the year round?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In addition to the Pathfinder, you have an office
there that costs $54,000. What is the character of the office you have
there?
Secretary REDFIELD. Capt. Welker was in charge of that office and
will be glad to explain that.
Capt. WELKER. The Manila office .
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Capt. WELKER. It is similar to the office here; we make all of the
computations, the drawings for the charts, and the tidal reductions.
The CHAIRMAN. You do all the work in the Philippine Islands?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir. The finished drawings for the charts are
made there. The work is carried on jointly with the Philippine
Government.
The CHAIRMAN. What do they contribute?
Capt. WELKER. They pay all of the draftsmen and a part of the
clerical force, all expenses of the geographical division and all of
the expenses of the steamers Fathomer and ſeesearch, except pay and
subsistence for officers. The scientific or technical force is paid by
the United States. The chief draftsman is paid by the United States,
as well as the chief computer and all other computers but one.
The chief clerk is paid by the United States. The employees of the
geographical division are paid entirely by the Philippine Govern-
ment. The work of that division is the preparation of the topo-
graphical maps.
532 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. What do we pay for there?
Capt. WELKER. We pay the chiefs of the divisions—the chief of
the drawing division, the chief of the computing division—the chief
clerk, the nautical expert, and one cartographer. That is about all
I can think of. We pay about Seven.
The CHAIRMAN. What else do we pay for besides the employees?
Capt. WELKER. In the office?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir; what are the expenditures of the office
besides the employees?
Capt. WELKER. That is all relating to office expenses, but we pay a
large part of the field expenses under the direction of the office.
The CHAIRMAN. We do not pay $54,000 for seven employees.
What other expenses do we pay?
Capt. WELKER. We pay all the running expenses of the Pathfinder.
The CHAIRMAN. That is separate. *
Capt. WELKER. That comes out of the expenses paid by the United
States, but not out of the $54,000 allotted to the office.
The CHAIRMAN. What other expenses are there?
Capt. WELKER. The running expenses of the steamers Romblon
and Marinduque. A-4
The CHAIRMAN. You have two other steamers?
Capt. WELKER. There are five steamers out there.
The CHAIRMAN. Including the Pathfinder?
Capt. WELKER. There is one where the expenses are paid entirely
by the Government of the United States, and two where the running
expenses only are paid.
Mr. TITTMANN. It is all a charge against the office; that is a matter
of bookkeeping.
Secretary REDFIELD. We furnish one steamer and pay all her costs.
The Philippine government furnishes four steamers and they pay
the operating cost of two of them and for the crews on the other two.
It is all in this account. -
Mr. TITTMANN. The officer in charge has supervision of the ex-
penses of the Pathfinder, and so it is charged to the United States,
but it is a separate item.
Capt. WELKER. Paid from the item of $54,000 allotted to the
Manila office: -
1. The running expenses of the steamers Romblon and Marin-
duque.
2. Transportation of all officers and employees of the technical
force to the Philippine Islands and return.
3. The commutation of subsistence of all officers of the normal
force in the Philippine Islands. .
4. Pay of 8 employees of the technical force at the Manila office.
5. Pay of foremen, recorders, etc., and charges for cablegrams,
freight, etc. -
The itemized expenses paid by the United States for the Manila
suboffice of the Coast and Geodetic Survey during 1914 are as
follows:
EMPLOY EES.
1 cartographer------------------------------------------------------ $2, *
1 Chief Computer---------------------------------------------------- 2, 280
J. Cartographer------------------------------------------------------ 2,000
1 Chief clerk--------------------------------------------------------- 1, S00
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 533
1 cartographer------------------------------------------------------ $1,800
1 computer --------------------------------------------------------- 1,800
2 computers, at $1,620 each----------------------------------------- 3, 240
Pay Of recorders, foremen, etc.--------------- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 4, 800
Total--------------------------------------------------------- 20, 000
Monthly expenses of Stealmer ll (trind it (ſue, at $1,471--_________________ 17, 652
Monthly expenses of steamer Romblom, at $1,424–--------------------- – 17, 092
Outfit for steamer Marinſluqtte--------------------------------------- 2, 3:30
Outfit of Steamer Romblon––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 3, ()00
Traveling eXpenses to the United States------------------------------ 3, 360
Traveling expenses from the United States_-__________________________ 3, 360
Computation Of Subsistence for Officers in the field--------------------- 1, 156
Total--------------------------------------------------------- 47, 950
67, 950
The above amount represents the average expenses for the past
six or eight fiscal years. -
The difference between the amount actually expended, $67,950, and
the amount shown under “Party expenses, Pacific coast,” in the
estimates, $54,637.94, represents payments from unexpended balances
of appropriations without year, still available in the Coast and
Geodetic Survey. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you know what it costs to make the maps there?
Capt. WELKER. It depends on the locality. It is different in dif-
ferent places.
Mr. SHERLEY. The making of the maps?
Capt. WELKER. Do you mean the preparation of the drawings for
the maps?
Mr. SHERLEY. Yes, sir; the preparation of the drawings and the
printing. r -
Capt. WELKER. They are not printed there.
Mr. SHERLEY. It is printed here?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir. .
Mr. SHERLEY. How much of a clerical force have you there?.
Capt. WELKER. There are about 40 in the office. About 32 or 33
of those are Filipino draftsmen and clerks.
Secretary REDFIELD. When you say 40 in the office does that mean
draftsmen? .
Capt. WELKER. Draftsmen, computers, a few clerks, and a stenog-
rapher. That is about all we have. That is about 33 Filipinos and
7 Americans. -
The CHAIRMAN. The $54,000 includes all the expenses involved in
the operating of that force?
Capt. WELKER. About seven of those men are included.
The CHAIRMAN. And includes the cost of operating four steamers,
which the Philippine Government furnishes but which we operate?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir; but only the officers upon two of the four,
and includes the entire expense of the Pathfinder.
The CHAIRMAN. No ; that is separate.
Mr. TITTMANN. The Pathfinder does not come under the $54,000.
Capt. WELKER. That is right; the expenses of the Pathfinder are
covered by a separate item. © '
The CHAIRMAN. Do you use the wire drag over there?
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534 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Capt. WELKER. Not yet. The surveys are not far enough advanced
for that. The idea is to first make investigations, at least to a cer-
tain degree. There will be some localities where the wire drag will
be necessary in the Philippine Islands, probably on the coast of
Palawan. There are few pinnacle rocks; the formation is not the
Same as on this side.
The CHAIRMAN. What is this revision work—one party eight
months and one party two and one-half months—mentioned on
page 566% -
Mr. TITTMANN. One shore party will be engaged in revision work
in the vicinity of San Diego and Cape George to Mendocino, includ-
ing Humboldt Bay. *
One party on the coast of Oregon, north of Cape Blanco, Coquille
River, Coos Bay, and Umpqua River and Siuslaw.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you mean by revision work field work?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Checking up work previously done?
Mr. TITTMANN. Adding to it and noting changes, revisionary
Work, keeping the charts up to date. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Shore work. The bars formed by the jetties
change.
Mr. MoRDELL. Mr. Secretary, what kind of vessels do you use for
the wire-drag work on the Atlantic coast'
Secretary REDFIELD. Launches, of which I have an illustration
that very fully describes the plan.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you own those boats?
Secretary REDFIELD. We hire them. We have in the estimates an
estimate to permit us to purchase three. Those vessels, with equip-
ment, cost $25,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. Are those vessels used in connection with shore
stations, and in doing that work do they return to the shore every
night?
Capt. FARIs. On the Atlantic coast we have not used vessels large
enough to house the people. It has always been convenient to live
ashore and certainly more comfortable. The size of vessels they have
used on this work ranges from 10 horsepower to 50, and from 25
feet long to 65 feet. *
Mr. MoRDELL. Are those boats large enough and sufficiently Sea-
worthy so that they can be utilized for all the drag work on the
Atlantic coast'
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
Mr. Mon DELL. Distant from harbors as well as in the vicinity of
harbors?
Capt. FARIs. All of the boats we have used we have had to hire
and to take the most adaptable thing that was offered. I do not
know that there is anywhere on the Atlantic coast where they could
not have quarters at night.
Mr. MoRDELL. You propose to use the same class of boats for the
work on the Pacific coast'
Secretary REDFIELD. They must be a more seaworthy boat on ac-
count of the outside work. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. For the inside passage, which I assume is the first
work you will do? .
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Mr. TITTMANN. In the quiet waters the same class of boat; but we
have in addition to that to provide vessels that will quarter the men.
Mr. MoWDELL. In doing this wire-drag work, where you have the
depth, what is the greatest depth to which you lower the drag'
Mr. TITTMANN. We have been doing work down to about 45 feet
effective depth, to which must be added the tidal correction, which
makes a maximum depth of about 60 feet. -
Mr. MoRDELL. In other words, to a depth sufficient to carry in
Safety, under all conditions, the largest boat that is liable to be
built 3 -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir; not only the draft of the ship, but also
the speed of the ship. t
Mr. MoRDELL. When you reach shallow waters which do not have
that depth but which are utilized by smaller boats, how do you
change the length of the drag' -
Mr. TITTMANN. The uprights are shortened.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is that readily done?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. In fact, they have to do that anyway
with the rise and fall of the tide.
Mr. MoRDELL. You change that readily as you go along to reach
the shallow depths?
Capt. FARIs. You can adjust the sections at different depths.
Mr. MoRDELL. But you start your drag at 45 feet?
Mr. TITTMANN. Not always.
Mr. MoRDELL. I mean where you have sufficient depth for a 45-
foot boat.
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
Mr. Mon DELL. If you do not do that, later, when larger vessels
are used, you will have this work to do over again Ż
Mr. TITTMANN. We think 45 feet will meet it.
Mr. MoRDELL. Wherever you have a depth sufficient to carry it—
45 feet—you carry it practically to that depth' r
Mr. TITTMANN. We do; yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And you only lessen the depth as you get into shal-
low water 7 -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Using additional care sufficient to develop the
depth that can be safely used in those waters? *
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Would it not be more economical for the Govern-
ment to own those little boats—the towing launches'
Secretary REDFIELD. That is why we put them in the estimates this
year.
Mr. MoRDELL. This year you propose to buy them?
Secretary REDFIELD. This estimate includes the cost of three.
Mr. TITTMANN. We propose to build some for the Atlantic coast.
Mr. MoRDELL. And for the Pacific coast ! -
Mr. TITTMANN. That only includes the hire of the launches.
Mr. MoRDELL. No purchase?
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Your Atlantic coast estimate does ificlude the pur-
chase? -
Mr. TTTMANN. The purchase or construction of three.
Mr. MoRDELL. In the item of $48,000? o
536 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir; that is a separate item."
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you, anticipate the necessity of any wire-drag
work on the coast of California? -
Mr. TITTMANN. There might be places around some of the points
there where it ought to be done. I have in mind several places
where it is very desirable. -
Mr. MoRDELL. How about Puget Sound?
Mr. TITTMANN. I do not know of any place in Puget Sound where
it is necessary.
Mr. MoRDELL. You have great depth immediately offshore and
so far as you know no pinnacles?
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Finally I have here, and I would like merely
to record the fact, a page of the Pacific Fisherman of November,
1914, showing a table of wrecks on the Alaskan coast with a total
property value of $12,792,250,
The CHAIRMAN. For what period? - -
Secretary REDFIELD. As far as the records go back. The dates
are given in each case, going back to 1848 and coming down to 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the first year? -
Secretary REDFIELD. 1848, two ships; 1851, 11 ships; 1853, 5 ships;
1856, 1 ship; 1862, 1 ship: 1864, 1 ship; 1867, 1 ship; 1870, 3 ships;
1871, 26 ships: 1872, 1 ship; 1876, 1 ship; 1879, 2 ships, and 1914, 8
ships.
§he table referred to by Secretary Redfield follows:)

Y Value of
|. Name of vessel. Where lost. hull and
- - - Cargo.
1848 || Bark Gem. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $75,000
1848 || Ship Richmond. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do--------- • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 80,000
1851 | Ship Mary Mitchell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.-------------------------- - - - - - - - - 22,000
1851 | Ship Acushnet. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Lawrence Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1851 | Ship Mexican. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic----------------y - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 22,000
1851 | Ship Honqua, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic near Cape Oliver . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,000
1851 | Ship Arabella. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Near East Cape. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1851 | Ship Susan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 25,000
1851 | Ship Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Pitt's Island. . . . . . . ... ------------------ 25,000
1851 | Ship Hy Thompson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Diomede Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
1851 | Ship Globe. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Straits. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------- 35,000
1851 | Ship Armata. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape North. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
1851 | Ship Bramin. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 20,000
1853 | Ship Liverpool. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Straits. . . . . . . . . . . . .-------------- 35,000
1853 | Ship Marcus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 20,000
1853 Ship Kingfisher. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 30,000
1853 Ship Citizen...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea------------------------------ 32,000
1853 | Ship Monongahela. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic----------------------------------- 35,000
1856 Bark Iris. ---------------------------------|----- do---------------------------------- 20,000
1862 Schooner E. R. Sawyer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nunivak Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 15,000
1864 | Ship Louisiana. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kotzebue Sound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1867 | Bark Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cook Inlet. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1870 | Ship Hibernia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 25,000
1870 Ship Almiral------------------------------|----. do---------------------------------- 42,000
1870 | Bark AWashonks. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - “...do---------------------------------- 42,000
1871 Bark Carlotta. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 45,000
1871 | Ship Gay Head... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. --------------------------------- 53,000
1871 | Bark George Howland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------- 50,000
1871 | Bark Massachusetts. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 57,000
1871 | Bark Oriole. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 35,000
1871 Ship Reindeer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 43,000
1871 | Bark Navy. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------- 55, 000
1871 | Bark Seneca. . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------- 55,000
1871 | Bark Thomas Dickason. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 60,000
1871 | Ship Champion... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 50,000
1871 || Bark J. D. Thompson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . ----------------------------- 50,000
1871 Ship William Rotch. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------- 43,000
1871 Bark Monticello. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------- 41,000
1871 Ship Florida . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^* - - - - - - - - - - - ) • * ~ * * do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------- 62,000
1871 Bark Eugenia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------- 40,000
1871 Bark Fanny. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------- 51,000
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
537
Year * Value of
lost Name of vessel. Where lost. hull and
e Cargo.
1871 Bark George. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic ---------------------------------- $38,000
1871 | Bark John Wells. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 40,000
1871 | Bark Oliver Crocket. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 40,000
1871 | Bark Roman. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do---------------------------------- 41,500
1871 | Bark Emily Morgan... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... ------- do---------------------------------- 42,000
1871 Bark E. Swift. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 40,000
1871 | Bark Henry Taber. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 38,000
1871 | Bark Minerva. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 40,000
1871 | Bark Concordia. . . . . ......................!----. do---------------------------------- 55,000
1871 Ship Mary---------------------------------|----- do---------------------------------- 53,000
1872 | Bark Roscoe..............................]----- do---------------------------------- 55,000
1876 Ship Arctic. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .--|----- do---------------------------------- 60,000
1878 || Schooner St. George. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kodiak Island.......................... 25,000
1878. Schooner Kodiak.......................... Geese Island. --------------------------- 25,000
1879;| Bark Mount Waliaston.................... Arctic.------------------- !-------------- 100,000
1879 | Bark Vigilant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .....|----- do---------------------------------- 100,000
1880 | Schooner Nagay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shumagin Island....................... 2,000
1881 | Schooner Henrietta. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Lawrence Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1882 | Schooner Sapho. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic----------------------------------- 25,000
1882 | Schooner General Miller. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shumagin Islands. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1882 | Schooner H. L. Tiernan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 17,000
1883 : Schooner Wild Gazelle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 20,000
1885 | Bark Amethyst. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic----------------------------------- 50,000
1885 | Bark Montana... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bristol Bay............................. 50,000
1885 | Bark Gazelle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 50,000
1885 | Bark Rainier..............................!----- do------------------------- - - - - - - - - - 50,000
1885 Bark Gorge and Susan... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 50,000
1885 | Bark Mabel........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 50,000
1885 Bark Napoleon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1886 Schooner Clara Light... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 10,000
1886 || Bark John Carver. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -do----------------------------------- 50,000
1886 Sloop Western Shore. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bristol Bay............................. 100,000
1888 Bark Young Phoenix... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Barrow. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1888 Bark Julia Foard. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . karluk.................................. 42,000
1888 | Bark Ohio... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Hope. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1888 Schooner Isabel... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shumagin Islands....................... 15,000
1888 Schooner Vanderbilt... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12,000
1889 | Steamship Ancon... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Poring-----............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .-- 100,000
1890 | Bark Eliza...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Lawrence Island... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1890 | Bark Lagoda. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic----------.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1890 Schooner Silver Wave. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Barrow. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
1890 | Bark Thomas Pope... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Hope. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1890 | Barkentine Korea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kalgin Island........................... 75,000
1890 | Barkentine Lizzie Williams... . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tugadak Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
1890 | Steamship Orizaba. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Michael............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
1890 | Barkentine Oneida. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sannak Island.......................... 125,000
1890 | Bark Corea................... . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cook Inlet. . . . . ------------------------- 51,000
1890 | Steamship Wrm. Lewis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Barrow. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
1891 Schooner Sadie F. Caller... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chignik................................. 56,000
1891 Schooner Dashing Wave. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1892 | Bark Abraham Barker. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.------........... ----------------- 50,000
1892 | Brig Alexander........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 50,000
1892 | Bark Helen Mar. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do--------------------- * - sº - - - - - - - - - - - 55,000
1892 | Bark John P. West. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 50,000
1893 || Bark Ohio...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nunivak Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1893 | Schooner John Hancock. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shumagin Islands....................... 30,000
1894 | Schooner Mary EI. Thomas. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . *e e - - - - e a e s - - 8,500
1894 | Schooner Mascot... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 8,000
1894 Schooner Mathew Turner... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . North Pacific. .......................... 7, 500
1895 | Bark Jacob Howland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Strong Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1895 || Ship Raphael... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . karluk------............................ 54,000
1895 Bark Montana... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nushagak. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
1895 || Launch Annie May... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Karluk---------------------------------- 1,300
1896 | Bark Jas. A. Borland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tugidak-------------------------------- 114,000
1896 || Brig Hidalgo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.------........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
1897 | Steamship Mexico. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dixons Entrance... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
1897 | Barkentine Jessie Freeman. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Barrow... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1897 | Steamship Orca. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 100,000
1897 Schooner Rosario. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----------------------------------- 40,000
1897 | Steamship Navarch.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 100,000
1898 || Ship Sterling.............................. Cape Constantine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 75,500
1898 || Steamship Clara Nevada.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lynn Canal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1898 || Steamship Brixam. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Clarence Straits. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
1898 || Steamship Anita . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cook Inlet. ----------------------------- 1,000
1899 Pioneer... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------.... . . . . . . . . . 45,000
1899 || Steamship Laurada... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
1899 | Bark Wildwood. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nushagak. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 95,000
1899 || Launch Karluk.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . karluk---------------------------------. 5, 200
1899 || Bark Lizzie Williams. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tugidak -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73,000
1899 || Barge N. A. T. & T. Co. 3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Michael.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1900 | Schooner Jessie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nome. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,500
1900 Bark Merom... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Karluk-... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64,000
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Year Value of
lost Name of vessel. Where lost. hull and
e cargo.
1900 | Barge Colorado. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wrangell Narrows... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $50,000
1900 | Bark Hunter. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1900 Barkentine Catherine Sudden................... do----------------------------------- 50,000
1900 | Bark Alaska..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O- - - - - - - * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 25,000
1901 || Grampus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Barrow. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1901 || Schooner Laura May. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kvichak. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,000
1902 || Steamship Balaena. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
1902 || Steamship Charles D. Lane. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nunivak Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
1902 || Steamship Discovery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yakutat.------------------------------- 50,000
1902 || Steamship Islander. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Douglas Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
1902 | Schooner Lettie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Port Moller. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500
1902 | Schooner Anna............................ Bering Sea.............................. 18,000
1903 || Steamship Cleveland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 75,000
1903 || Steamship Sadie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 50,000
1903 || Launch Delphine. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Karluk--------------------------------- 900
1903 || Schooner Mary and Ida-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bering Sea-------------------------...-- 20,000
1904 || Schooner Mary D. Hume. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nushagak............................... 15,500
1905 || Schooner William and John. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Southeastern Alaska. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - 2,000
1905 | Bark Servia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . karluk--------------------------------- 205,000
1905 Schooner Pearl. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shumagin Islands. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18,000
1905 || Schooner Nellie. Coleman. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20,000
1905 || Schooner Francis Alice. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------------- 15,000
1905 Schooner Laura Madsen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Off Point Barrow. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1905 || Schooner Marion. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sannak Island........................... 20,000
1905 || Schooner Mary Ann. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Unga----------------------------------. 15,000
1905 Schooner Mayflower. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Solomon. ------------------------------- 3,000
1905 || Schooner Seven Sisters. . . . . . . . . .---------- Kotzebue Sound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1905 || Schooner Volant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bristol Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18,000
1905 || Gas sloop Admiral. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Andregsofsky. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
1905 || Gas sloop Anglo Saxon.................... Chiniak--------------------------------. ,000
1905 || Steamship Gov. Perkins. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wome----------------------------------- 10,000
1905 | Steamship John Reilly. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Blossom........................... 60,000
1905 || Brig John J. Mitchell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yukon Flats. . . . . . . . . . '• - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10,000
1905 Schooner Margery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sanborn Harbor. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,000
1905 | Schooner Pirate. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . irate Cove............................. 5,000
1905 || Schooner Florence. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . £50Wik--------------------------------. 3,500
1905 Schooner Bonanza. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . King Point---------.................... 18,000
1905 || Bark Coryphene. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Off Prince of Wales Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,000
1905 | Steamship Arctic Bird. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kobuk River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
1906 || Bark Nicholas Thayer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - Kodiak Island..........................- 20,000
1906 | Steamship Oregon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Eſinchinbrook. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
1906 | Steamship Mariechen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chatham Straits. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
1906 | Steamship Themis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hardigan Reef. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 120,000
1906 | Steamship Miami... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kvichak................................ 10,000
1906 Schooner Excelsior . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nelsons Lagoon......................... 23,000
1906 || Steamship Koyukuk. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tanana River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,000
1906 || Steamship Lotta Talbot. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Fairbanks------------------------------ 60,000
1906 | Steamship Miami... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kvichak River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1906 || Steamship Explorer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Russian Mission. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11,000
1906 | Barge Sesnon No. 5. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nome. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,000
1906 | Barge SeSnon No. 9... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do---------------------------------- 4,000
1906 | Steamship Rock Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chenoa. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000
1906 | Sloop Lila................................. Dauphin Island Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
1906 || Schooner Mary Gray. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2,200
1906 Schooner Olivia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ."----. do----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,500
1906 | Schooner Sehome. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Gardner. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,800
1906 | Steamship Alexander . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Parry--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1906 || Steamship Leah. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yukon River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - 50,000
1906 | Steamship Tanana Chicf. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kautishua River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1906 | SCOW Skip. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mount Andrew. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
1906 || Barge Gold Star. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tanana River... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1907 || Ship John Currier. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nelsons Lagoon......................... 145,000
1907 Schooner St. Paul. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sukhlish Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1907 | Bark William Bayliss. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic---------------------------------- 50,000
1907 | Sloop Alta................................ UgaShik--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 650
1907 | Launch Odiak. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Prince William Sound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
1907 || Gas sloop Rita Newman. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Simeonof Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50,000
1907 | Bark Servia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ºuk. … ;----------------------------- 205,000
1907 | Schooner Glen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Unimak Island................. . . . . . . . . 20,000
1907 | Barge Richard III. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Virago Sound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1907 Schooner Defender. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kuskokwim Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,200
1907 || Gas sloop Anglo Saxon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Woolley. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
1907 Schooner Bender Bros.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Good News Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14,000
1907 | Schooner Martha W. Tuft. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kattalla River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14,000
1907 || Schooner St. Paul. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chowiet Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,000
1907 Schooner Vine. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Deering. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - 15,000
1907 | Steamship Ella. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . . . . Tanana River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,000
1907 || Gas sloop Hammond. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Storey Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
1907 | Barge No. 3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Michael. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------- 20,000
1907 | Sloop Nymph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . adley. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
1907 || Gas sloop Greyhound... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nome. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
1908 || Schooner Ivy. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,000
1908 || Ship Lucille. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ugashik. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 180,000
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
539

- Value of
º: Name of vessel. Where lost. hull and
Cargo.
1908 || Bark Star of Bengal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Coronation Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $330,000
1908 || Steamship Saratoga.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bushby Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
1908 Schooner John F. Miller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Unimak Island... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1908 || Schooner Petrel.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Pybus Bay.----------------------------- 6,000
1908 Schooner Comus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lynn Canal----------------------------- 2,500
1908 || Schooner Olga. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Freemantle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
1908 || Schooner Seven Sisters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape º as s = e º ºs s = e s = < * is e e s = * * * * * * * 10,000
1908 || Steamship Agnes E. Boyd... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kobuk River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14,000
1908 || Scow Chignik No. 1... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Cleare. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
1908 || Schooner Bear. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Near Unalaska. ------------------------- 4,000
1909 | Ship Columbia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Unimak Pass--------------------------- 78,000
1909 | Barge Quatsino. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dixon Entrance... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
1909 | Barge Charger. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .{- - - - - - - - - - - - - - Karta Bay------------------------------ 25,000
1909 || Steamship Uyak. ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- - - - - - Karluk... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------ 20,000
1909 || Gas Sloop Olga----------------------------- Arctic.---------------------------------- 20,000
1909 || Gas sloop Capella. . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------- Vanks Island---------------------------- 4,500
1909 | Schooner Linea L.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Portage Bay---------------------------- 4,000
1909 || Steamship Florence... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Michaels Canal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1909 || Steamship Nunivak. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tanana River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '. 35,000
1909 || Gas Schooner Iona. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nome----------------------------------- 4, 500
1909 | Scow Camilla A - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Chignik Bay. ... ------------------------ 15,000
1909 | Barge Michigan---------------------------- Tanana River--------------------------- 18,000
1909 || Gas sloop Winthrop . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nunivak Island. . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12,000
1910 | Steamship Farallon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Iliamna Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------- 80,000
1910 | Steamship Portland. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Katalla. -------------------------------- 55,000
1910 | Steamship Olympia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bligh Island. --------------------------- 150,000
1910 | Revenue Cutter Perry. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . St. Paul Island-------------------------- 150,000
1910 | Schooner Stanley. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sannak Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
1910 || Gas sloop Sea Light. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Southeastern Alaska. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000.
1910 Schooner Bob . . . . . . |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Juneau-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,000
1910 | Schooner Never Mind.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lynn Canal.---------------------------- 3,000
1910 || Gas sloop Bertha - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carter----------------------------------- 8,000
1910 | Gas sloop H. Johnston. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Point Hope----------------------------- 25,000
1910 || Gas sloop Louise.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Prince of Wales... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
1910 | Barge C. L. Hutchinson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kaltag. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------- 6,000
1910 | Barge K. S. L. Co. No. 7... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Channing Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,000
1910 | Barge Sesnon No. 6- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nome----------------------------------- 4,000
1910 | Barge Sesnon No. 7... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6,000
1910 | Scow Teller... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tuksuk River... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
1910 | Steamship Princess. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------ 5,000
1910 | Steamship Elsie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Valdez. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------- 20,000
1910 | Barge K. S. L. Co. No. 4.- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Willow Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
1910 || Gas sloop J. Matthews. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - Cape Darby. . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8,000
1910 || Gas sloop L. S. Sorensen... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Addington. --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 15,000
1911 | Schooner Czarina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nagai Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,000
1911 | Steamship Ramona. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Decision. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
1911 | Ship Jabez Howes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chignik. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 105,000
1911 || Gas schooner F. S. Redfield - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cape Prince of Wales... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1911 || Schooner Jessie Minor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nelsons Lagoon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12,000
1911 || Steamship Koyukuk. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tanana River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
1911 | Scow P. C. S. Co. No. 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norton Sound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,000
1911 || Gas sloop St. Anthony.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Metlakahtla----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
1911 | Steamship Grant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hecate Straits. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45,000
1912 | Bark Hayden Brown. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Montague Island . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
1912 || Schooner Joseph Russ. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chirikoſ Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20,000
1912 || Gas sloop Laclabell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Near Ketchikan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
1912 Schooner Compeer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bristol Bay . . . . . e - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 25,000
1912 || Gas sloop Oakland . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dry Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------ 70,000
1912 | Barge Sesnon No. 13. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nome. . . . . . . . . . "... ---------------------- 12,000
1913 | Steamship Yukon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sannak Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 170,000
1913 | Steamship State of California. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gambier Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
1913 | Steamship Curacao. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Warm Chuck . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
1913 | Steamship Kayak. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yakutat. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12,000
1913 || Steamship Weiding... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Queen Charlotte I. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,000
1913 || Gas schooner Elvira. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 35,000
1913 Schooner Transit. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kotzebue Sound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1913 | Steamship Armeria (lighthouse tender). . . . Cape Hinchinbrook . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
1914 | Bark Gay Head . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Chignik Bay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44,000
1914 | Revenue Cutter Tahoma. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aleutian Islands. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 310,000
1914 | Bark Paramita. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Unimak Pass. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
1914 Schooner W. PI. Dimond . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bird Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35,000
1914 || Steamship Karluk. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Arctic.---------------------------------- 45,000
1914 || Gas sloop Alice. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cape Decision. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
1914 | Purse Seiner Schcold . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Frederick Sound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 7,000
1914 || Gas sloop Alert. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Near Snettisham. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,000
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12, 792,250
540 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Chairman, I should like to offer for the
committee's consideration the original resolutions of the Philadelphia
Maritime Exchange, the New York Maritime Exchange, the Board
of Trade, Portland, Me., the Board of Trade and Business Men's
Association of Norfolk, Va., the Baltimore Maritime Association,
the New Orleans Board of Trade, the Portland Chamber of Com-
merce, the National Board of Steam Navigation, the Seattle Chamber
of Commerce, the Alaska Bureau of Seattle, the San Francisco
Chamber of Commerce, the Cordova Chamber of Commerce, the
Seward Commercial Club, the Valdez Chamber of Commerce, and
the Merchants’ Association of New York, all bearing upon this Sub-
ject, which are available for your information at any time.
I presume you have seen this [indicating], which just came to my
hands a few days ago, a statement of the seven steamship companies
navigating the Alaskan Waters: -
PACIFIC COAST.
Under this item the estimates are for an increased expenditure of $60,000
over last year, as follows:
Increase for Alaska --------------------------------------------- $56,193. 25
Increase for California, Oregon, and Washington.------------------ 913. 92
Increase for Hawaii------------------- –––––––––––––––––––––––––– 3,255.77
60, 362.94
Decrease for Philippine Islands---------------------------------- 362. 94
60,000. 00
The increase for Alaska is explained as follows:
In order to prepare more accurate charts for the protection of life and prop-
erty, a fund of $58,300 must be provided for the continuous operation of two
wire-drag parties for the 'six months of the year when work in that region is
possible. This is an increase of $52,020.83 over the amount available during the
year 1914, when it was possible to Operate only one wire-drag party for Only
one month, at an expense of $6,279.17, which amount included the purchase of
outfit. The value and importance of this work has been frequently explained.
A new item of $7,110 is included for the hire of an auxiliary power craft for
work as an adjunct to the steamer Patterson while engaged in Alaska. This
is in order to increase the efficiency and utilize to full extent the means and
funds available. The average expense of this steamer is approximately $80,000
per annum. Without the use of this extra launch four working parties can be
operated. By supplying this extra launch six working parties of much greater
efficiency can be operated—the greater efficiency resulting from being able to
utilize launch power instead of the pulling oars of a whaleboat. As six working
parties will be engaged instead of four, the value of the increased efficiency ob
tained for the expenditure of $7,110 will be 33% per cent of $80,000, or $26,666
In order to partally provide for these two important items, the amount pre-
viously allotted to the steamers and land parties engaged in. Alaska has been
reduced by $2,128.25. -
The increase for California, Oregon, and Washington announts to $913.92 and
is accounted for by an increase in cost of maintenance in the suboffice at Seattle
for clerical assistace. º -
An inspector was detailed for the Coast and Geodetic Survey office at Seattle
On June 14, 1911. No clerical assistance was at that time considered necessary.
To the original duty of supplying information to mariners, the shipping inte-
rests, and engineers, the direction of many details of work in Alaska have been
added in order to expedite the work. Work in all lines has in consequence
grown far beyond what was originally anticipated. The clerical work of that
office for last July, the slackest month of the year, was as follows:
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This the inspector has had to attend to personally, while the major part of
his time during office hours was employed in giving personal interviews, anSWell-
ing telephOne Calls, etc.
The inspector makes the following statement :
“I am compelled to work overtime, including Sundays and holidays, and
the duties have so crowded that have not been able to take a single Clay's leave
since my arrival here some two and three-fourths years ago.”
The increase of $3,255.77 for work in Hawaii is necessary in order that the
navigation charts of this region may be brought more nearly to date and that
the field Season of the Steamer Patterson to be engaged in that region may be
extended One month longer, which would result in economy, as otherwise the
Steamer would be idle and under considerable expense during that period.
The expense of providing for the use of these vessels during the Winter
months, $11,664, is met by decreased activity in the land parties.
The winter work contemplated is off-shore hydrography in the vicinity of
Cape Mendocino by the Ea'plorer; continuation of revision of Puget Sound,
Seattle to Cape Flattery, including Hoods Canal, POSSession Sound, and Wash-
ington Sound; the McArthur, to revise surveys in Columbia River; the Patter-
Son, hydrography in Hawaii.
One shore party will be engaged in revision work in the vicinity of San
Diego, and Cape George to Mendocina, including Humboldt Bay.
One party, on the coast of Oregon, north of Cape Blanco, Coquille River,
COOS Bay, and Umpqua River and Suislaw.
P} : Y S I C'. AL | | Y DR(){}} {..A PHY-TID,\L AN ID CU 18 IR EN 'I' () 13S ER WATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For continuing researches in
physical hydrography, relating to harbors and bars, and for tidal
and current observations on the coasts of the United States or other
coasts under the jurisdiction of the United States.” The current
appropriation is $6,400 and you are asking $12,000.
Secretary REDFIELD. I will say in regard to that, Mr. Chairman,
that an increase of $5,600 is necessary in this connection. About
$3,150 of the estimated increase is for tidal observations and $2,450
is for current observations. The estimate contemplates a systematic
tidal survey for the establishment of bench marks at many stations
from Maine eastward along the Atlantic and Gulf coasts and on the
Pacific coast, in order to be able to promptly and most economically
meet the frequent demands for special hydrographic examination
and also the requests from engineers, surveyors, and many private
and public concerns for information relating to tidal planes in con-
nection with legal disputes concerning the ownership of lands bor-
dering upon tidal Waters. Such demands frequently make special
tidal observations necessary at much greater expense and delay than
would be the case after systematic tidal observations had been ob-
tained. I have here a list of 30 stations in New York and Connecti-
cut and 30 stations in the State of Washington, as many of which as
possible should be occupied. The average estimated cost is $100 per
station, including salaries, establishment of gauges and bench marks,
and also for transportation of men and necessary outfit and materials
for the purpose. By conducting such a tidal survey in a systematic
manner, completing certain portions of the coast each year, the total
cost will be much less than if the same results were obtained in a less
regular manner only when pressing demand makes it necessary.
The direction and strength of currents along the coasts are of
inestimable value for the safety of lives and property on board of
vessels, while sufficient observations for accurate determinations at
numerous places have not been obtained on account of insufficient
542 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
funds for the purpose. An additional $2,450 is required for this pur-
pose, to be used as follows: . -
At Cape Elizabeth and Boston 'Ilightship on the Atlantic coast, and at
South Pass Lightship on the Gulf Coast------------------------------ $450
At various rivers and harbors from the St. Croix to Cape Cod___________ 1, 000
Hourly observations for one year at Heath Bank Lightship, Gulf coast__ 500
Hourly observations for one year at Plunts Reef Ilightship, Pacific coast 500
2, 450
The demand and necessity for work of this character has been SO
great that it should not be long delayed. The safety of many lives
and millions of dollars worth of property are at stake.
The CHAIRMAN. You have 14 stations now %
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. t 3.
The CHAIRMAN. And there are 30 additional places at which you
make these observations?
Mr. TITTMANN. You see, we have permanent stations; that is,
stations where long Series of observations are made, and We inter-
polate between them stations that do not take so long. For instance,
at San Francisco we have been observing for 19 or 20 years, and we
have been observing in New York in the same way. The observations
there are going on all of the time.
Secretary REDFIELD. These are auxiliary stations. -
Mr. TITTMANN. For giving more complete knowledge of the tide.
The CHAIRMAN. You have two parties in the field for eight
months; what do they do?
Mr. TITTMANN. They are intended to go around from place to
place and establish stations where gauges are made and observe a
certain portion of the time. They put in marks and make observa-
tions.
The CHAIRMAN. Are all of these stations provided with observers?
Mr. TITTMANN. Nearly all of these auxiliary stations will be.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not want you to misunderstand me: Do all
of these stations have observers assigned to them independent of any
other work they may be doing? . -
Mr. TITTMANN. They are included in this
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). The answer is no. No ; we do
not. Do you have a special observer for each one of these stations?
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir. I did not understand you, Mr. Chairman.
Secretary REDFIELD. Men go to these stations for perhaps a month,
and then go on to another and then to another.
The CHAIRMAN. What would be the period of observation at one
of these auxiliary stations? -
Mr. TITTMANN. About a month. -
The CHAIRMAN. Could you determine anything accurately in a
month? ſº -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Would not conditions change with periods of the
year?
Mr. TITTMANN. Oh, yes; they do change, but we are able to make
reductions. If we know the time at which observations are made
we can take the data of other tidal stations near and which are of a
permanent class and make the proper corrections and by reducing it
get the mean.
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The CHAIRMAN. The observations carried on at these stations for
a month, taken in connection with data obtained at other stations, are
sufficient for the purpose?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CIIAIRMAN. Which are the stations at which you have perma-
ment officers?
Mr. TITTMANN. That appears on page 567 of the bill.
The CHAIRMAN. These 14 stations are permanent stations?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And you have a list of the temporary or auxiliary
stations?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir; I will file it.
(The list referred to is as follows:)
DECEMBER 22, 1914.
Tidal Observations.
. Williamsburg Bridge, East River, N. Y.
Queensboro Bridge, East River, N. Y.
Ninety-first Street, Hell Gate, East River, N. Y.
Fulton Avenue, Hell Gate, East River, N. Y.
Hoyt Avenue, Hell Gate, East River, N. Y.
One hundred and tenth Street, Harlem River, N. Y.
Woolsey Dock, East River, N. Y. '
College Point, Flushing Bay, N. Y.
. WhiteStone Point, N. Y.
. Throgs Neck, N. Y.
. Willets Point, N. Y.
. Port Washington, Manhasset Harbor, N. Y.
. Glenwood, Hempstead Harbor, N. Y.
. Oyster Bay, N. Y. e
. Eaton Point Light, N. Y.
. Northport, N. Y.
. Stony Brook, Smithtown Bay, N. Y.
. Old Field Point Light, N. Y.
. Setauket, N. Y.
. Port Jefferson, N. Y.
. Herods Point, N. Y.
. Hortons Point, N. Y.
. New Rochelle, N. Y.
. Port Chester, N. Y.
. Coscob, Conn.
. Scott Cove, Conn.
. Southport, COmn.
. Black Rock, Conn.
. Milford, Conn.
. New Haven, Conn.
. Rocky Point, Eld Inlet, Wash.
. Burns Cove, Totten Inlet, Wash.
. Head of Skookum Inlet, Wash,
34. Arcadia, Hammersley Inlet, Wash.
35. Shelton, Oakland Bay, Wash.
36. Head of Oakland Bay, Wash.
37. Geralds Cove, Pickering Pass, Wash.
38. Allyn, Case Inlet, Wash.
39. Head of Hendersons Inlet, Wash.
40. Johnson Point, HenderSOnS Inlet, Wash.
41. Dupont Powder Works, Wash.
42. Gertrude, Carr Inlet, Wash.
43. Home, Carr Inlet, Wash.
44. Wanna, Carr Inlet, Wash.
45. Horsehead Bay, Carr Inlet, Wash.
46. Cromwell, Hale Passage, Wash.
47. Point Evans, the Narrows, Wash.
48. Dockton, Quartermaster Harbor, Wash.
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49. Lisabeula, Calvos Passage, Wasl).
50. Olalla, Wash.
51. Desmoines, Poverty Bay, Wash.
2. Lynch Cove, Hood Canal, Wash.
53. Holly, Hood Canal, Wash.
54. Dabop Day, Hood Canal, Wash.
55. Quilcene Bay, Wash.
56. Everett, Possession Sound, Wash.
57. Fidalgo City, Deception Pass, Wash.
58. Deception, Deception Pass, Wash.
59. Prevost Harbor. Stuart Island, Wash.
60. Patos Island, Wash.
Secretary REDFIELD. There was no unexpended balance under that
item.
OFFSHORE SOUNDINGS, COAST PILOT, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For offshore soundings and
examination of reported dangers on the coasts of the United States,
and of coasts under the jurisdiction of the United States, and to
continue the compilations of the Coast Pilot, and to make special
hydrographic examinations, and including the employment of such
pilots and nautical experts in the field and office as may be necessary
for the same.” The current appropriation is $15,000 and you are
asking for $20,000.
Secretary REDFIELD. During the year 1914 the entire amount ap-
propriated for this purpose was $15,000, but owing to the difficulty
in finding suitable experts to replace one who died and one who
resigned, there was an unexpended balance of about $4,600; but
the places that were vacant have since been filled, and the names of
the two new experts appear in the list of persons to be paid from
the appropriation for party expenses in 1916 as apparent increases.
An additional appropriation of $5,000 over the amount appro-
priated in 1914 is necessary in order that important data for the
use of the navigator may be gathered and published at an early
date.
The chief item of increase is for gathering information for the
Coast Pilot of the Pacific coast, where no work of this character
was possible during the year 1914, and for which approximately
$3,000 is required. The remainder of the increase is required for
necessary increased activity upon the Atlantic coast.
The two items of increase are explained as follows:
(1) Pacific Coast and Alaska Coast Pilot.------------------------------ $3,000
(a) Revision of Coast Pilot of California, Oregon, and Washington.
(b) Revision of Coast Pilot of Southeast Alaska, from Dixon
Entrance to Yakutat Bay.
(c) Collection of new data for preparation of Coast Pilot of Alaska,
Yakutat Bay to the Aleutian Islands.
(2) Revision of the Coast Pilot of the Atlantic coast_________________ 2, 000
With special reference to the inside routes and in localities, subject
to great and frequent changes, as follows:
(Q) Inside route along the South Shore Of LOng Island_-___________ 30()
(b) Inside route along the coast of New Jersey----_______________ 500
(c) Inside route, New York to Key West and the Rio Grande------ 1, 200
This necessary extension of the work of the Coast Pilot party, for
which the demand is insistent, can not be undertaken with the
inadequate fund now provided for the preparation of Coast Pilots.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 545
The CHAIRMAN. What are the qualifications of the men you em-
ploy in this work?
Mr. TITTMANN. They are generally engineers by training. They
come from technical Schools, and then we require them to have some
Special technical knowledge—I mean navigational knowledge. They
must know about navigation, that being, of course, the great requisite.
The CHAIRMAN. Under the law you may carry your soundings 20
marine leagues, offshore?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How far does the ordinary survey work extend
Out - -
Mr. TITTMANN. To the 100th fathom mark along the coast; that is,
as we might say, everywhere. It extends to the 100th fathom mark
even on the Atlantic coast. Even on the Atlantic coast that is re-
garded as a good rule. • * .
The CHAIRMAN. At some places that is quite a considerable dis-
tance out? -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir; but it is inside of the distance mentioned.
Secretary REDFIELD. As you see from this man [indicating], the
shoal waters in the Gulf extend much farther out. -
Mr. GILLETT. Does that ſindicating] show the distances?
Secretary REDFIELD. Substantially.
The CHAIRMAN. Beyond 100 fathoms you do the offshore sound-
ing? -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir; the deep-sea sounding work.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there much of that work done at all?
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir; not now. That was done when we were
engaged in surveying the Gulf Stream. It is very desirable that
work should be done on that now, but we are not doing anything of
that. This is practically expended on inside work and the Coast
Pilot. &
The CHAIRMAN. This is practically expended on the Coast Pilot?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. º . - -
Secretary REDFIELD. Of course, the development of the motor boat
has made necessary these inside Coast Pilots, that 5 or 10 years
ago were not needed at all. There are 200,000 or more motor boats
to be considered in connection with these inside passages.
Mr. GILLETT. There is no reason, from the navigation standpoint,
of making examinations or soundings outside of the one-hundredth-
fathom limit? - -
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir. The one-hundredth-fathom line is par-
ticularly important, because ships making land, or trying to make
landfall, begin to sound with tubes. They have glass tubes that
they can use in depths of 100 fathoms or less while going at full
speed, because it is a pressure tube, and they want to get those
soundings. That is the reason whv it is important to have the whole
area out to the one-hundredth-fathom curve carefully surveyed, be-
cause during fogs if they can get a sequence of soundings they can
sometimes tell their position without anything else. They can tell
it from the charts.
Mr. GILLETT. But they could never be sure about it. The sound-
ings might be according to the chart, but they can not be sure that
it is not at some other place just like it. .
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546 SUN DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. TITTMANN. They have it on the charts, but that is not an
exact determination; it is rarely that a sequence of soundings would
be duplicated both in distance and direction.
* Secretary REDFIELD. It is what they use habitually, and as they
move along they can correct it.
(, I'OR CONTINUING MAGNETIC OBSERVATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. For continuing magnetic observations, etc., the
current appropriation is $56,000, and you are asking $65,000.
Mr. TITTMANN. That is practically the same appropriation we
had last year, with the exception that we have asked a sum for some
surveys in Alaska.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you complete that work of determining the
trans-Atlantic longitude? -
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir; and that is why there was an unex-
pended balance last year. - .
The CHAIRMAN. What was the unexpended balance?
Secretary REDFIELD. The unexpended balance was $4,753, out of
which $3,800 was due to the change of plans with regard to the de-
termination of the trans-Atlantic longitude.
Mr. TITTMANN. We have done all of that work that we are going
to do this year. We were working on that in July, but while the
German observers were engaged in the work of determining the
trans-Atlantic longitude by cable the cable was cut. We have fin-
ished our part of it.
The CHAIRMAN. There is no prospect of continuing it?
Mr. TITTMANN. No, sir.
Secretary REDFIELD. The remainder of the unexpended balance
was made up of the unexpended balances of the allotments made to
a number of field parties and to the magnetic observatories. In
order to avoid a deficit, the officers in charge were warned not to
exceed their allotments, and they spent that much less. It is planned
to spend this $9,000 entirely, in making triangulation surveys in
Alaska, of which this [indicating] is an outline, and the running of
a line of precise levels in order to afford a basis for the work of
the Alaskan Engineering Commission for their railroad work, for
General Land Office work, and for work of the United States
Geological Survey. I have here a letter from the Alaskan Engi-
neering Commission, and will put it in the record, if I may.
The Alaskan Engineering Commission is calling for triangulation
and leveling. During the past season a party of this survey was sent
to the Kenai Peninsula (between Prince William Sound and Cook
Inlet) to do some interior triangulation, from which they started
their railroad surveys. They want control in the interior, as indi-
cated by the following letter:
I) EPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
AT, ASIKAN ENGINEERING COMMISSION, -
- Washington, D. C., December 11, 191}.
Mr. O. H. TITTMANN.
Superintendent Coast and Geodetic Survey,
- ſº Washington, D. O.
. My DEAR MR. TITTMANN : I note in the report of the Secretary of Commerce
that mention is made of the advisability of running precise levels and primary
triangulations in Alaska. Will you kindly tell me if you consider there is any
chance of this work being done during the coming season, as these operations
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 547
would be of inestimable value to the commission for controlling their level
lines and furnishing control for topography? - - -
We have one line of primary levels from Cook Inlet to Fairbanks, but any
Other railroad lines which might be considered could be based upon data fur-
luished by you, and thereby not only save us a great deal of expense, but we
would have at the same time a line and position which we would be absolutely
sure of. -
The matter of precise surveying in Alaska would not only benefit us, but it
would-also benefit the other scientific bureaus of the Government.
Very truly, yours, - - j
THOMAS RIGGS, Jr.,
J/ Gºube). Of the Coºl mission.
Secretary REDFIELD. I also hand you a letter of three years back
from the United States Geological Survey asking that this work be
done, but which we have never yet been able to do.
(The letter referred to is as follows:)
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
UNITED STATES GEOLOGICAL SURVEY,
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR,
Washington, December 21, 1911.
Mr. O. H. TITTMANN, -
Superintendent Coast and Geodetic Survey.
MY DEAR MR. TITTMANN: I amu pleased to see that the approved estimates
for the fiscal year 1913 include an increase for the work of your bureau in
determining geographical positions, and more especially because they provide
for the extension of a triangulation in Alaska from the international boundary
to Bering Sea.
I need, hardly tell you how valuable the results attained by the Coast and
Geodetic Survey in the States are to this service. While, as you know, the
Geological Survey is carrying on triangulation, this is in no sense a duplication,
but is simply an extension of the general system established by the Coast and
Geodetic Survey to the areas being topographically surveyed. In my opinion,
the Work of each bureau admirably supplements that Of the other. -
. The special purpose of this letter is to direct your attention to the urgent
need of a general system of triangulation in Alaska and especially in the Yukon
River Valley. The accurate location of areas under survey in this northern
region will only be possible on the basis of a triangulation. If this is under-
taken now, it will settle the problem of location for all time to come. If the
triangulation is not made, endless work and much expense will be involved in
the adjustment of future surveys and maps.
As the Geological Survey is engaged in the preparation of base maps neces-
sary to the study of minoral resources of Alaska, it is vitally interested in hav-
ing the triangulation extended over the morè important part of the Territory
as soon as possible. Such a triangulation would also be the first step toward
the setting in each mining district of one or more monuments whose position
has been exactly determined. This would give an accurately located tie point
for every mineral survey, and, by absolutely fixing the position of such surveys,
would avoid endless disputes in the future. & -
In my opinion, great economies will be made in the future by starting this
work at once. I therefore urge you to undertake it as soon as means permit.
Very respectfully, r .
GEO. OTIS SMITH, Director.
Secretary REDFIELD. In addition, we were called upon by the Gen-
eral Land Office to determine the latitude and longitude at Fair-
banks and Tanana, which are starting points for some of their
surveys. The triangulation which is needed in Alaska will enable
the land office to begin its surveys from hundreds of places, which
they are not now able to do, and the surveys will harmonize when
they meet. Perhaps I ought to say that in this respect we are very
backward. Australia, Chile, and Argentina are far ahead of us in
these respects.
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The CHAIRMAN. We have been doing this work in the United
States for a good many years.
Secretary REDFIELD. But we have an enormous area to cover.
The CHAIRMAN. How long will it take you to complete this
work—that is, the trigonometrical connection of the Bering Sea
triangulation and the one hundred and forty-first meridian!
Mr. TITTMANN. It depends on how much we have. At the rate
of $9,000 a year we would not get very far. That would be only a
beginning. , ºn
The CHAIRMAN. With $9,000 a year how long will it take you?
Mr. TITTMANN. We could do it in five years. . tº
Secretary REDFIELD. Here [indicating] is a detailed statement of
just what remains to be done, and if you wish to put it in the record
I will be glad to do so. This is in Alaska. -
The CHAIRMAN. This statement is wholly at variance with the
other. With $9,000 a year there would be required $45,000.
Mr. TITTMANN. I did not mean it could be done in five years with
$9,000 per year. We could do it in that length of time if the money
were provided. We could do it with our personnel.
The CHAIRMAN. I asked you how long it would take, and you said
that at the rate of $9,000 a year it would take five years. Now, how
long would it take you to do this work at the rate of $9,000 a year?
I am not referring to the work mentioned in this paragraph—that
is, the trigonometrical connection of the Bering Sea triangulation
with the one hundred and forty-first meridian.
- Sºretary REDFIELD. With $9,000 a year, how long would it take
you ? .
Mr. TITTMANN. We want to start this work from the One hun-
dred and forty-first meridian, practically down the Yukon River.
The CHAIRMAN. How long will it take you to do that particular
work at the rate of $9,000 per year? The object of making this
trigonometrical connection of the Bering Sea triangulation with
the One hundred and forty-first meridian, as I understand it, is to
reduce all of the surveys up there- -
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). To a common basis. * *
The CHAIRMAN (continuing). To a scale that they would fit when
they meet. Now, what is the extent of that task? -
Mr. TITTMANN. It will cost $75,000, and would take eight years.
The CHAIRMAN. That is, to do this primary work upon which the
other is dependent? ' ' '. - -
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. . -
The CHAIRMAN. What was your unexpended balance in 1914?
Mr. TITTMANN. It was $4,753. . . ."
The CHAIRMAN. Did you do any work, in determining trans-
Atlantic longitudes? - .
Mr. TITTMANN. We bought instruments in preparation for it and
completed the connections between the cable station and the Wash-
ington and Cambridge observatories. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Are you asking anything for that this year?
Mr. TITTMANN. We have done all that we are going to do this
year. We will do no more of that. -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to be authorized to employ in the
field and office such magnetic observers, at Salaries not exceeding
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$2,200 per annum, as may be necessary for the same. I do not know
what the word “same " refers to, unless it is to the continuation of
the gravity observations. . . . . .
Secretary REDFIELD. It is for the magnetic work. The object of
that, Mr. Chairman, is this: We are losing, and for the last 10 years
have been losing, 20 per cent of our magnetic observers every year.
They leave us to obtain better pay elsewhere. The maximum that
can now be paid a magnetic observer on field work is $1,500 per
annum, and $1,860 per annum at a magnetic observatory. It should
be $2,200. We feel that this right of increase, so to speak, or this
provision to increase the pay to a certain amount, limited as the
statement shows, will prevent us from losing the ablest men in the
service. The average length of time that we have been able to keep
the men is only about four years, and 50 per cent of them have
remained in the Service only three years, Scarcely long enough to
train them up to their best efficiency. It seems urgent that if the
Government is to have the benefit of trained men, these men should
have sufficient inducement to remain in the service, and as the men
who leave say that they like the work, it is believed that an oppor-
tunity for more pay for them would induce them to remain, which
will result in an actual economy both in money and character of
results obtained. The salaries that we are at present able to offer
do not induce a sufficient number to apply, so that our selection of
men for magnetic observers is thereby restricted more than it should
be to obtain the best men. -
The CHAIRMAN. The object of this is to permit an increase of
compensation from $1,500 up to not exceeding $2,200?
Secretary REDFIELD. For magnetic obesrvers.
The CHAIRMAN. How many magnetic observers are there?
Capt. FARIs. The average is about 10, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Are there more in the field or in the office?
Capt. FARIs. We have them in the office only for short periods.
In summer we have more observers than we have in winter, because
we are then able to do more field work than in the winter. We have
no particular use for them in the office, and they are placed on a
no-pay status until again needed in the field.
Secretary REDFIELD. I might say that of the $56,000, which is the
amount usually appropriated, $25,000 will be expended on magnetic
observations in the United States, Hawaii, and Alaska, and Porto
Rico. The balance, $31,000, will be spent on geodetic work in the
following States: Utah, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Montana,
Colorado, New Mexico, Florida, Alabama, and, Georgia.
.The CHAIRMAN. $6,000 of that $56,000 during the last two years
has been given for a specific purpose entirely distinct from the pur-
poses mentioned in this item. r i
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; that was for longitude observations
We will use this, if we receive it, in the States I have named.
SPECIAL SURVEYs For LIGHTHOUSE OR OTHER GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For any special surveys that
may be required by the Bureau of Lighthouses or other proper au-
thority and contingent expenses incident thereto.” The current
appropriation is $10,000, and you are asking for $15,000.
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Secretary REDFIELD. There appears to have been an oversight last
year. There was a request made from Florida for a survey of the
oyster lands of that State, and $5,000 each was put in the estimate of
the Bureau of Fisheries and in the estimates for the Coast and Geo-
detic Survey to cover that matter. One was passed and the other was
not passed, but both are necessary in order to do the work, which
requires $10,000. The Bureau of Fisheries, which is specially
charged with the details of this important work has asked the coop-
eration of the Coast Survey in furnishing detailed surveys which are
necessary and for which this bureau is especially equipped. This
$5,000 is the excess over the usual sum of $10,000 which experience
shows to be necessary to meet calls which can not be foreseen from
the Lighthouse Bureau and from other departments not having sur-
veying bureaus, or for Surveys which belong to the Special domain
of this service, such as fixing the position of aids to navigation, under
the Bureau of Lighthouses; the movement of water in tidal streams
affecting pollution, under the Public Health Service; coordinating
coast Surveys for special purposes, under the Alaska Railway Com-
mission; leveling for the United States engineers, and trial courses
for the Navy Department.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you say that the other $5,000 for that survey
was appropriated ?
Secretary REDFIELD. There was a request from the State of Florida
for a survey of their oyster grounds. That survey involved two
bureaus, the Bureau of Fisheries and the Coast and Geodetic Survey.
We asked for $5,000 for each bureau, which was necessary to do the
work, and we got $5,000 for the Bureau of Fisheries, but nothing
for the Coast and Geodetic Survey. We can not use the other $5,000
until we get this. * -
The CHAIRMAN. Both Surveys must be made together?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How long will it take to complete that work?
Mr. TITTMANN. It will probably take two Seasons.
MITSCEIILANEOUS OBJECTS.
The CHAIRMAN. For objects not hereinbefore named that may be
deemed urgent, etc., the current appropriation is $3,000 and you are
asking $3,500.
Secretary REDFIELD. That increase of $500 is a mistake, and you
can strike it out. It was not intended. The only thing that We Want
to get there, if possible, is that clause, “reimbursement of officers
of the Coast and Geodetic Survey for food, clothing, medicines, and
other supplies furnished for the temporary relief of distressed per-
sons in remote localities and to shipwrecked persons temporarily
provided for by them, not to exceed $500.” There has been a great
deal of annoyance, embarrassment, and difficulty in that particular.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they called upon for this sort of aid?
Secretary REDFIELD. They have been called upon at times. What
is the case you have in mind, Capt. Faris?
Capt. FAR1s. The case of the Cupacao, that was sunk. I believe
they furnished in that case 241 meals. - . -
Secretary REDFIELD. With the chance of getting it back only after
several years through the Court of Claims. It is really a hardship,
and it is a thing likely to occur several times a year. - -
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INT lºſt N ATION AI, (; ſūOI)].TIC ASSOCJATION.
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The CHAIRMAN. You also ask this language: “And for the ex-
penses of the attendance of the American delegates at the meetings
of the International Geodetic Association, not to exceed $550.”
Secretary REDFIELD. Reference is made to the law, Twenty-eighth
United States Statutes, page 587.
The CIIAIRMAN. Are these meetings triennial?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. - º
Secretary REDFIELD. This is for the autumn of 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is it to be heldº
Mr. TITTMANN. It was to have been held at St. Petersburg, or
Petrograd; but I think it will be held in Stockholm. 2 * *
The CHAIRMAN. Is it likely to be held at all?
Mr. TITTMANN. I hope so. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many delegates do we send?
Mr. TITTMANN. I had as well say what my practice has been. I
have been taking the inspector of geodesy, and we have paid our
steamship fare out of it and paid the rest of the expenses out of our
pockets. -
The CHAIRMAN. So you practically have two delegates?
Mr. TITTMAN. Yes, sir. g
APPROPRIATIONS, INTERCHANGEABILITY OF.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking that “Ten per cent of the foreging
amount shall be available interchangeably for expenditure on the
objects named, but no more than 10 per cent shall be added to any
one item of appropriation.”
Mr. TITTMANN. We have had that in the estimates many times, but
you took it out. I think it should be put back, because that enables
us to expend the money that you appropriate for particular pur-
poses. Now, we can not do it under the present system. Our appro-
priations are in Small bits, and a single expenditure for an object is
made up from three or four or more appropriations. With this pro-
vision, even if we did run $100 ahead on an item, we could make a.
transfer and come out even. It is most desirable to have this, other-
wise we must stop work when it is not economical to do so. It is in
the interest of economy, and it is a very good system.
VESSELS, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Vessels: For repairs and main-
tenance of the complement of vessels, including traveling expenses
of the person inspecting the repairs, but excluding engineer’s supplies
and other ship chandlery.” The current appropriation is $40,000
and you are asking $40,000. What was the unexpended balance?
Secretary REDFIELD. There was an unexpended balance of $5,825.31,
caused by the fact that this was reserved to replace two launches
which had been either lost or worn out. Bids were asked for them
toward the close of the fiscal year, but the prices received were so
exorbitant that, although we needed the launches, we determined not
to buy them and to take bids later on. Hence that entire $5,500 is
552 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
carried over. That $5,500 is just the amount that we needed for
those launches. g -
The CHAIRMAN. Now you have dropped out two vessels?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; we dropped out three. The En-
deavor We have absolutely gotten rid of, and the Gedney and the
McArthur may require more repairs than before. The chief item
under this head is for the steamer Bache. The steamer Bache is of
composite construction, the hull consisting of 3-inch planking secured
to iron frames with 11 on bolts. Experience has shown that upon an
average the life of these bolts is seven years. This interval since the
last previous refastening will expire during the present fiscal year.
It has developed that deterioration has advanced much more than
could have been anticipated. But, as sufficient funds were not avail-
able, only a partial rebolting could be undertaken at present. It is
absolutely certain that the steamer must be rebolted during the com-
ing year. When the steamer was last thoroughly rebolted, nearly
seven years ago, the bids for the work ranged from $9,935 to $20,300,
and as prices have advanced very much since that time, it is evident
that at least $13,000 should be anticipated for repairs of this steamer
during the fiscal year 1916.
In order to comply with the stringent laws governing the safe-
guarding of lives and property on vessels, the noncompliance with
which involves a severe penalty to the responsible party, it is abso-
lutely necessary that the vessels of the service should be more thor-
oughly repaired and better equipped than in the past.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a vessel is it?
Capt WELKER. One hundred and fifty-six feet over all.
Capt. FARIS. She is about 500 tons displacement, in round numbers.
The CHAIRMAN. What is her value?
Capt. WELKER. She is valued at $60,000, but that is without her
engine. That would be with her old engine. Her value with that
engine would be, at the time she was built, about $80,000.
Secretary REDFIELD. She is a good ship, is she not?
Capt. WELKER. She is very good, except she is a composite ship.
Secretary REDFIELD. When she is put in order she will be a good
ship?
Capt. WELKER. Very good.
The CHAIRMAN. The Endeavor is out entirely?
Secretary REDFIELD. She is gone. -
The CHAIRMAN. Then, the Gedney and McArthur
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). Those are the two wrecks on
the Pacific. -
The CHAIRMAN. What shape are they in ?
Secretary REDFIELD. In about as bad shape as a ship can be and
hold together. There was a good deal of money spent on them last
year. When I was on the McArthur she was having a new deck put
in, but since we received an adverse report from the Stemboat In-
spection Service, which is given in detail in House Document No.
1214, instructions have been given not to use those vessels except in
quiet waters. There is no economy in spending money on them, but
we have got to maintain them until we can get new ships or can hire
other ships. They are in as bad shape as ships well can be.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you propose to repair them this year?
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Secretary REDFIELD. As little as possible. If we receive money for
new ships, I should say we would expend only just enough money
upon them to keep them moving for such work as they can do.
Mr. SHERLEY. Can't you buy ships now more cheaply than you can
build them?
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir; I doubt if you could now, but, of
course, if we could we would be glad to do so. Vessels of this class
have to be fitted for this particular work, and it is doubtful whether
you could buy them. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I know there are a good many vessels for sale.
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. You can sometimes buy them to
advantage. We have used, or shall use, I think, the $50,000 given
last year that way for the Bureau of Fisheries. That was because
the amount was insufficient to build a ship, and after some months of
investigation we have found a vessel that we can buy. That vessel
will be useful for that service but would be perfectly useless for the
Coast and Geodetic Survey. Capt. Faris, do you think it is prac-
ticable to buy second-hand ships for this purpose?
Capt. FARIs. If we did buy we would have to make modifications,
especially of the internal arrangements. -
Secretary REDFIELD. You might put in both ways, and give au-
thority to buy or build. I think that is a good suggestion. We
might have the appropriation either to construct or purchase.
Mr. SHERLEY. I know that there are a great many ships for sale.
Secretary REDFIELD. I think that is a very wise suggestion. In
this fisheries matter, if I remember rightly, we were able to buy a
ship at a low price from a concern which had failed, but that ship
would not have been of any use for this purpose.
To illustrate, on these coast-survey vessels, there is no place in
which to keep fresh meat, and when they have fresh meat they
hang it over the windlass until it gets so bad that all they can do
is to throw it overboard. There is no place on board the boat where
the officers can take a bath or the seamen. I was in the Ward room.
The officers work, eat, and sleep all in the one room, and as you
sit at the mess table eating your meals the lavatory is within 4 feet
of you—right at your back. It is just about the most disagreeable
thing you can imagine. They have no electric light, and, as I re-
member it, they have hand windlasses.
'Capt. FARIs. On the Endeavor, at least. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes; and they have old-style engines. They
have nothing that is modern, and in a country where coal costs from
$11 to $13 a ton, they are using old, one-cylinder engines, which will
burn at least one-third more coal than ought to be burned. I would
not spend a dollar in repairs on them. .
The CHAIRMAN. If the Gedney and McArthur are in such a di-
lapidated condition, why should we spend $8,000 on them?
Secretary REDFIELD. We should not; but we can not say whether
that amount must be spent on them until we know whether we are
going to get new ships. If you will give us the money for new ships
and make it immediately available, so as to save that $8,000, we
would be glad to do so. - -
Mr. GILLETT. You could not get your new ships for this summer?
Secretary REDFIELD. We might if we could buy them at once,
but I doubt whether we could.
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Mr. GILLETT. You could not build them? tº
Secretary REDFIELD. No. There ought to be no reason why we
should spend on these ships as much money as we have spent hereto-
fore. I do not think it would be wise to do it. r
VESSELS, EMPEOYEES FOR.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For all necessary employees to
man and equip the vessels, including professional seamen, Serving
as mates on vessels of the survey, to execute the work of the survey
herein provided for and authorized by law.” The appropriation is
$252,200, and the estimate is $275,000. -
Secretary REDFIELD. That is simply to keep the vessels going dur-
ing the whole of the year, when they are not under repairs. That
amount is needed in order to keep them moving. It has been neces-
sary to suspend the active field work during a few months of each
year, and yet a considerable part of the expense of the maintenance
of the vessels continued. -
The CHAIRMAN. You estimate that they will all be out of com-
mission for two or three months a year? -
Secretary REDFIELD. Hardly so much. I give that in my report
very carefully, the exact time of each vessel, showing just what time
they are out of commission. It is there very fully, but it is not as
much as that, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. Ea:plorer, two months; Gedney, two months; and
the IlſcArthur, two months. - p
Secretary REDFIELD. That is an estimate, is it not?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; and you lay the Gedney up two and a half
months in another place.
Secretary REDFIELD. The McArthur in the last fiscal year was
actually under repairs 1 month and 22 days; she was 16 days com-
pleting a crew, outfit, adjusting compasses, etc.; she was idle for lack
of funds from the 12th day of November until the 18th day of Feb-
ruary, 3 months and 2 days, and was at work 6 months and 20 days.
In the case of the Gedney she was at work 8 months and 9 days;
spent 21 days on repairs, and was 3 months idle for lack of funds.
All of those vessels, as per page 139 of my report, would have been
employed in Puget Sound, Grays Harbor, Willapa Bay, and the
Columbia River, all of the waters I have mentioned being sheltered.
The CHAIRMAN. Are all of the men who man these vessels and
the équipment for these vessels paid out of this appropriation?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir. -
Capt. FARIs. Not all of the officers.
The CHAIRMAN. But the men are paid out of this?
Capt. FARIs. The men are.
The CHAIRMAN. The fact that it costs more to get men up in
Alaska does not affect the cost of maintaining those wire-drag
arties. ..
p Secretary REDFIELD. It would if we had to get local men there.
The CHAIRMAN. Not if you pay them out of this appropriation?
Secretary REDFIELD. These are vessel crews, which are not the same
as wire-drag parties.
The CHAIRMAN. Does this contemplate an increase in the pay of
some of the men? -
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Secretary REDFIELD. None. -
Mr. TITTMANN. None, at all; this is just for filling the complement
of men and keeping them going. It does not contemplate any in-
CI’ease. - ** -
Capt. FARIs. When they are laid up we reduce the crews, and in
that way we have only spent the lesser sum this year, but if you keep
them in commission and at work all the year we will have to keep
a full crew on them, and it will require more money to do that than
we have had heretofore. .
The CHAIRMAN. In your recapitulation you show that in 1914 you
spent $171,000 for the crews and you are asking $165,000 for 1916,
$6,000 less for keeping them in commission all the time. How do
you account for that? . -
Secretary REDFIELD. You should look over the page. Page 578
goes on to show all of the items. You only got to the bottom of page
577. You only have the question of wages, and then you come to the
question of rations. - -
The CHAIRMAN. But rations are separate. The amount spent was
$171,000 and you estimate for next year $165,000, which is a reduc-
tion of $6,000. * -
Secretarv REDFIELD. You will note that at the bottom of page 577
the deduction of money unpaid is not made, but it is made on page
578, which would alter that whole statement.
The CHAIRMAN. That does not help us at all.
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes; it is that very matter.
The CHAIRMAN. It is not deducted in either place. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes; it is deducted at the top of page 578,
and just reverses the facts that appear on the other side.
The CHAIRMAN. The first increase is 10 mates, chief engineers, at
$140 a month instead of 7 mates, chief engineers, at $140 per month.
Why are 10 mates, chief engineers, provided ? -
Secretary REDFIELD. The first increase, as the chairman points out,
is 10 mates, chief engineers, as against 7, an increase of 3. -
Capt. FARIs. I do not know just why that readjustment has been
made, Mr. Secretary, but there are some down below. It gives some
decreases. - - .
Capt. WELKER. This estimate was made up from the complement
that was in existence at the time, but I must say it is made up very
badly; in that respect it is very confusing. However, provided they
were to be on duty continuously these would be the figures, but they
are not on duty continuously, so a reduction is made at the bottom,
It is really confusing. -
The CHAIRMAN. That does not explain the fact that you are asking
for an increase of three men? - *
Capt. WELKER. It really provides simply for promotions in the
grade of mates, chief engineers. That is what it is intended for, those
who have served a good many years. It is very confusing the way it
is made out. - -
Secretary REDFIELD. You mean it is possible to promote three men;
Capt. WELKER. Yes. For instance, there would be in one year
seven, say, at $135 a month, and the next year there would be seven
at $140 a month. The total number Would be the same and the total
appropriation would be the same, but there would be corresponding
reductions in other places. It is simply an analysis of the way it
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existed at the time, but it will never be carried out in this way. I
think some regulation provided that it should be analyzed in this
way. -
AssistANTS TO SUPERINTENDENT, CAPTAINs of VESSELs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Salaries: Superintendent,
$6,000; assistants, to be employed in the field or office, as the superin-
tendent may direct, one of whom may be designated by the Secretary
of Commerce to act as assistant superintendent,” etc. The appropria-
tion is $160,200, and the estimate is $174,600. You are asking
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). Six new assistants.
The CHAIRMAN. At $2,400 each? :
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; and over the page a chief accountant.
In August of this year, one of the months when the field work is car-
ried on most actively, the Coast and Geodetic Survey had 50 assist-
ants and aids available for ship duty, but should have had 66. On
shore parties, wire-drag parties, in executive positions, boundary sur-
veys, and special duties there were 43 assistants and aids actually
engaged.
The number of experienced officers (surgeons and chief engineers
are not considered here) which should have been on the vessels and
the number actualy on shore and other work totals 109. The survey
has only 93 assistants and aids. Therefore the vessels were run
with 16 experienced officers short. Provision must be made for
sickness and other causes which make unavailable about 5 per cent
of the experienced officers. Therefore in August the survey should
have had 114 assistants and aids, but only had 93.
The ships should have 17 additional surveying officers who may
be inexperienced in addition to the 66 experienced ones. The 3 wire-
drag parties actually operated with 9 inexperienced officers, 3 in
each of the 3 parties. A full complement for all the parties ashore
and on ship would therefore require 43 inexperienced officers. There
were actually employed in August only 38, 19 mates and 2 deck
officers, first class (men who are strictly navigators and not sur-
veyors), and 17 deck officers, second class (men who are to be placed
in aid positions when vacancies occur).
It is seen that the survey was running with 21 less assistants and
aids than it should have. Also, in spite of the fact that there were a
number of inexperienced men appointed, the complement was 5 short.
There is a limit to which inexperienced men can be used on survey-
ing work, even though they may be sufficiently equipped, as far as
education goes. It is often the case that an additional experienced
surveyor on one of our ships would make it possible to run another
subparty and possibly increase the output of the vessel by 25 per
cent. The ship must have a full complement in its crew for safe
navigation. When it is on the working ground efficient administra-
tion requires that every member of the crew must be engaged on Sur-
veying. It is necessary for greater efficiency to have an experienced
assistant or aid in charge of each squad.
During the past five and one-half years there have been 31 resig-
nations from the position of assistant and 44 from that of aid, a total
of 75. There are only 93 such positions, therefore in seven years the
number of resignations will equal the number in the force. -
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It is with the greatest difficulty that young engineers can be in-
duced to take the aid examination. In general, two special examina-
tions are held each year and, although widely advertised, young
engineers will not enter them in sufficient numbers.
During the past six years practically every one who has had his
name placed on the aid register has been offered a position. There
has been no chance to select the best one of three eligibles for each
vacancy.
The lower grades are heavily loaded now. The hopelessness of
getting out of the lower grades within a reasonable time causes the
resignations and keeps men from entering the examinations. The
new positions asked for are absolutely necessary to prevent waste of
money. They are placed at $2,400 in order to help to balance the list.
This will have some effect in keeping the men in the service and in
inducing others to enter. The 29 aids in the survey, who constitute
nearly one-third of the normal force, have an average experience of
less than two years. No one of them has been in the survey more
than three and one-half years. If the appropriation for wire-drag
work is increased, the shortage of officers will be still more pressing.
The CHAIRMAN. These are not the officers who man the vessels?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CIIAIRMAN. These are assistants?
SECRETARY REDFIELD. The title of the captain of one of these sea-
going steamers is assistant to the superintendent. I have often de-
sired to have that changed but it has not been changed.
The CHAIRMAN. You say that these men are captains on the
vessels?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. Capt. Welker is one of them.
Capt. WELKER. I have served 12 years aboard ship.
The CHAIRMAN. And your title is assistant to the superintendent?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir.
Secretary REDFIELD. And that is the case with Capt. Faris and
Capt. Wainwright. -
Capt. FARIs. I had about 15 years aboard ship and commanded a
ship about 10 years.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you navigate the ships?
Capt. FARIs. While a captain on one of those ships may not him-
self navigate them, he is responsible.
The CHAIRMAN. Is he a master?
Capt. FARIs. Some of our officers have masters’ licenses, but when
I was in command I did not have a license from the local inspector
of steamboats.
Secretary REDFIELD. How about you, Capt. Wainwright?
Capt., WAINwrighT. We claim that it is the most difficult naviga-
tion in the world. Instead of following the channels
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I know; but I want to know what
kind of men navigate the ships.
Secretary REDFIELD. There they are—three of them.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they licensed?
Capt. FARIs. Well, I did navigate before I was in command, in
the Alaskan waters, in the north Pacific, and we have a number of
our assistants who stand watch the same as a naval officer would
on the bridge. • * - -
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The CHAIRMAN. This item provides for assistants to be employed
in the field or office. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Every officer of one of these vessels, whether
on the Pacific or on the Atlantic, has the title of assistant to the
Superintendent of the Coast Survey, and all of our vessels are com-
manded by such officers.
Capt. WELKER. An officer who makes charts would certainly know
how to navigate a ship. He makes charts for navigation. *
Secretary REDFIELD. It is a very curious fact but it is so.
The CHAIRMAN. This force is an office and field force both }
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes. In August, 1914, there were 11 in the
office in Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. How many are in the office, how many on ships,
and how many some place else?
Secretary REDFIELD. I just told you that, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. How many are in the office?
Secretary REDFIELD. You want us to separate the office force from
the other land work?
The CHAIRMAN. There are 93 employees provided for, and I want
to know how they are distributed.
Mr. TITTMANN. Fifty of them are on vessels, 43 on shore parties,
Wire-drag parties, and in executive positions.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they separate from the 66 you have men-
tioned? . -
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; additional to them.
The CHAIRMAN. That makes 109?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; we were actually short; we were 16
men short of having 109.
The CHAIRMAN. You could not have 109 actually on duty when 93
are provided for.
Mr. TITTMANN. Not at the same time, but these were doing work
though.
The CHAIRMAN. Let us get the facts.
Secretary REDFIELD. Ninety-three men during the year filled 109
places. *
The CHAIRMAN. That might be, but these vessels were laid up for
a time?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Then how could they be short of men?
Mr. TITTMANN. They are short because the other men were busy.
The CHAIRMAN. Which ones are busy %
Secretary REDFIELD. The land men.
Mr. TITTMANN. They are all busy.
The CHAIRMAN. Let us try and get this information in the way I
want it. You have 66 of these men on vessels?
Secretary REDFIELD. We should have, but we have not.
The CHAIRMAN. But he said he had 66 on vessels?
Mr. TITTMANN. We had them in August.
The CHAIRMAN. You had them on the vessels?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In August?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is your busy time?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes, sir.
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The CHAIRMAN. Was the complement of the vessels then filled?
Mr. TITTMANN. I have made the statement wrong after all. The
statement is written out and that is the reason I did not charge my
mind with it. ; .
The CHAIRMAN. You ought to be able to furnish the information
without a lot of written statements. -
Mr. TITTMANN. It says
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Who says it?
Mr. TITTMANN. I am responsible when I read this.
The CHAIRMAN. How many officers are on the vessels?
, Secretary REDFIELD. It is not possible to tell that, because the
number changes every week. -
Mr. TITTMANN. There were actually employed in August only 36,
19 mates and 2 deck officers, first class, men who are strictly navi-
gators and not surveyors. Now, then, I take it that there were 36 on
board the vessels. tº
The CHAIRMAN. Who made up the statement? We will ask the
man who made up the statement if you do not know. We Want to
get the information.
Mr. TITTMANN. It was made up from the records and is doubtless
absolutely correct.
The CHAIRMAN. Can anybody tell how many officers are on these
vessels? § -
Capt. WELKER. The number will vary. It will average from about
four to seven on each vessel.
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know the facts.
Secretary REDFIELD. What fact do you want?
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know how many men are on the vessels.
Secretary REDFIELD. The number changes every week or 10 days,
and we can not tell you that unless you give us a specific month.
The CHAIRMAN. You select some specific time and state how many
men were on the vessels. -
Secretary REDFIELD. We have said that in August there were 36,
19 mates and 17 deck officers.
The CHAIRMAN. Where were the other 57 at that time?
Secretary REDFIELD. They were on shore doing other work.
The CHAIRMAN. When were the 66 men on the vessels, as was
stated a minute ago?
Secretary REDFIELD. We do not say that, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what I understood. *
Secretary REDFIELD. The record says we should have had, in order
to form a full complement, 66 in August.
The CHAIRMAN. He said there were 66 on vessels, 43 on wire-drag
surveying parties, and somewhere else; then if you had 36 men on
the vessels in August, where were the other 57?
Secretary REDFIELD. We were short 21 to make up the 57. We
can find that for you. The men we were short were not engaged;
we did not have them. -
The CHAIRMAN. I am not asking you for the men you did not
have. You actually had 57 men, plus the 36. Now, as to these 7
men whom you have asked for at $2,400 each; what are they to do;
what particular duties are they to perform 2 - *
Secretary REDFIELD. They will be officers on board ship at the
time the ships require their services and are on land at other times.
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The CILAIRMAN. In What capacity will they serve on the ships?
Mr. TITTMANN. As surveying officers and captains, but chiefly
as Surveying officers.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of these men now act as captains?
Capt. FARIs. We have 15 men according to my list here.
The CHAIRMAN. Which ones are they'
Capt. FARIs. The salaries vary. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do the $4,000 men act as captains?
Capt. FARIs. No. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do the $3,200 men act as captains?
Capt. FARIs. The highest paid man who is a captain on a ship .
is now getting $2,200. e
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for 7 men to put in there at
$2,400; is that it? -
Secretary REDFIELD. That is it.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of them will act as captains? I
happen to have some knowledge of the salaries paid to captains.
The captains of the Ancon, and Cristobal, ships of 12,000 tons dis-
placement, get $2,500 a year; those ships and their cargoes have a
value of about $1,500,000 each, and there ought to be some way of
arriving at Some comparison of these things. -
Secretary REDFIELD. But they might be utterly incompetent to do
this work. -
The CHAIRMAN. I do not know whether they would or not, but
that is what I can not find out. I can not find out what work these
particular men do. | * -
Secretary REDFIELD. These men are surveying officers as well as
captains. |
The CHAIRMAN. Of these men who are captains on the vessels, you
say you have one at $2,200?
Capt. FARIs. That is the situation at present.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the next highest?
Capt. FARIs. The next highest is $2,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You have one at $2,200. How many at $2,000?
Capt. FARIs. Four. .* . -
The CHAIRMAN. What other captains are there?
Capt. FARIs. Some at $1,800.
The CHAIRMAN. How many at $1,800?
Capt. FARIs. Five.
The CHAIRMAN. What others?
Capt. FARIs. The next grade is $1,600.
The CHAIRMAN. How many captains are in that grade?
Capt. FARIs. We have one commanding officer at $1,600 and we
have some at $1,400. *
The CHAIRMAN. How many at $1,400?
Capt. FARIs. Three.
The CHAIRMAN. What others have you ?
Capt. FARIs. That is all on my list. -
The CHAIRMAN. There are 14 commanding officers?
Capt. FARIs. Then I missed one or else I am wrong myself. I
must have missed one, because I have 15 on my list here.
The CHAIRMAN. I will read them : One at $2,200, 4 at $2,000, 5
at $1,800, 1 at $1,600, and 3 at $1,400.
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Capt. FARIs. I have 1 at $2,200, 4 at $2,000, 6 at $1,800, 1 at $1,600,
and 3 at $1,400. - {
The CHAIRMAN. What does this $2,400 man do now %
Capt. FARIs. He is assistant inspector of hydrography and topog-
raphy; he is now talking.
The CHAIRMAN. How many vessels are there?
Secretary REDFIELD. Fifteen, are there not? It is in my report.
Capt. FARIs. There are the Philippine commanders, too, Mr. Sec-
retary. -
Secretary REDFIELD. There are 12 in addition to the Philippine
vessels, and 3 of those—15 altogether.
The CHAIRMAN. There are 5 Philippine vessels, are they not?
Secretary REDFIELD. There are only 3 for which we provide offi-
cers; is not that true? } -
Capt. WELKER. We provide all the officers for all the vessels. In
the Philippines there are 5 vessels.
Secretary REDFIELD. You do not have a full-fledged officer in com-
mand on the Yukon, and Taku?
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir. All of the officers are qualified to com-
mand, with very few exceptions. .
Secretary REDFIELD. I understand that perfectly.
Capt. WELKER. These men may be in command this month and
next month others may be in command of those same vessels.
The CHAIRMAN. I am asking you how many vessels you have?
Capt. WELKER. Fifteen altogether. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is the Mºndeavor included in that number 3
Capt. WELKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is out; and then you have only 14?
Secretary REDFIELD. Since the estimates were made; yes.
I should like to correct a statement regarding these captains. As
appears on page 140 of my report, there are employed on the Pacific
coast 7 vessels, in the Philippines 1 vessel, on the Atlantic coast 4
vessels, and in the Philippines contributed by the Philippine Gov-
ernment 4, or a total of 16 vessels. Of these the Cosmos is a very
small launch and can hardly be included among the vessels; two
others are laid up in the winter time, the Yukon, and the Taſcu, leav-
ing 13 vessels. - -
The CHAIRMAN. And the Endeavor?
Secretary REDFIELD. That includes the Endeavor. When she is
out that leaves 12. The tables will be found on page 140. -
On the 14th of October I asked the Assistant Secretary of our
department whether he would approve a clause of this kind, but
nothing further was done: -
Whenever an assistant or other officer of the Coast and Geodetic Survey is in
actual command of a vessel of that Service he shall have the rank and title Of
captain, and the Secretary of Commerce is at thorized to issue to him a certificate
of that title and authority. *.
At present he is not; he is simply an assistant in the Coast Survey—
assistant to the superintendent.
of FICE FORCE—ACCOUNTANT, TRANSFER OF DISBURSING WORK.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for the office force, and it is the
same as last year, except that you ask to change the title of the dis-
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bursing agent to that of chief accountant. What is the reason for
the change in that title? -
Mr. JoHANNEs. Mr. Chairman, the Secretary and others who have
taken up the question of accounting in the department have come
to the conclusion that the disbursing in Washington can be more
economically and better done, and give the department a better over-
sight and information relative to the accounts, if it is all done
through one office, and we want to transfer the disbursing of the
Coast and Geodetic Survey from the disbursing agent to the dis-
bursing clerk of the department.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is it necessary to change the title?
Mr. JoHANNEs. The Attorney General has decided that where
Congress provides for a disbursing clerk the department has no right
to detail another officer to do the work that ought to be done by the
man who is specifically designated as disbursing agent.
The CIIAIRMAN. What is the necessity, then, for a chief accountant
in this office? -
Mr. JoHANNEs. The chief accountant is supposed to take care of
the cost-accounting record and other work of that kind which the
Coast and Geodetic Survey has to do, and he would be in charge of
the administrative examination of all the accounts. *
The CHAIRMAN. The Secretary can detail this disbursing agent to
any bureau he pleases?
Mr. JoBIANNEs. Yes; but he can not require him to do that dis-
bursing work, because it would be illegal for him to do it, as long as
Congress has decided that there shall be a disbursing agent in the
Coast and Geodetic Survey.
Secretary REDFIELD. It is in the interest of unifying the accounts.
Mr. JoHANNEs. I have done that as far as the Census Bureau is
concerned. I took over the Census disbursing work as soon as the
decennial census period was over. We find it works very well and
that it does not cost any more, although we do not know how much
more it would have cost if the disbursing office had been retained
in the Census Bureau.
The CIIAIRMAN. You want to have this disbursing work taken
l] e
*M. JoHANNEs (interposing). By the disbursing clerk of the de-
partment; yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. But you still require the man you relieve of that
work
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). As an accountant.
Mr. JoHANNEs. The law requires that all examinations of ac-
counts shall be made in the various bureaus, and he would have to
do that work. The only economies it would effect would be that
the clerical force that is now used solely for the purpose of disburs-
ing would be released for other work in the bureau. I need no extra
clerks to do this work in my office.
OFFICE EXPENSES-IILATING AND POWER PLANT.
The CHAIRMAN. For, office expenses the appropriation is $50,000
and for next year you are asking $66,000. &
Secretary REDFIELD. That is a case of trying to get our plant in
proper shape. I have a statement here which I shall be glad to file
with the committee or read if you desire.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 563
The CHAIRMAN. Just read it. * . …
Secretary REDFIELD. The increase of $16,000 is required in the in-
terest of economy and efficiency, as follows: Increase for one elec-
tric generator Set, gas-engine driven, $3,100.
The CHAIRMAN. What is that for?
Secretary REDFIELD. For power for the plant. Increase for in-
Stallation of direct-driven motors and substitution of modern ma-
Chinery in the instrument shop, $3,000; increase for new field in-
vestments, $3,000; increase for power paper cutter, $1,500; increase
for extra labor, $900; increase for chart paper, $2,500; increase for
two new furnaces and boilers for heating building, $2,000.
The increase of $3,100 for an electric gas engine driven generator
Set is necessary in order that sufficient power may be available for
Operating the printing plant. * *
The increase of $3,000 for installation of direct-driven motors and
Substitution of modern machinery in the instrument shop is necessary
Chiefly in the interest of economy and efficiency. The old shaft sys-
tem has been in use since about 1876. It is long out of date, ineffi-
cient when compared to modern machinery, much more expensive, is
insanitary, and deprives the shop of much necessary light for fine and
delicate machine work. The installation of these motors would also
result in economy of power and maintenance. Under the present
system the entire shop plant—which, by the way, is divided into sev-
eral rooms, with no direct communication between them—must be in
operation if only a small inexpensive piece of work is undertaken.
You have got to run the whole plant in order to get the smallest
single machine moving. The increase of $3,000 over the general
annual average required for Surveying instruments is explained as
follows: The need for new instruments has increased on account of
the gradual replacement of the older equipment by modern and
more efficient types, resulting in a higher class and greater quantity
of results. The quantity required has also increased on account of
the increase in the force employed in the field operations and the
increase in the number of field parties. There has also been a steady
increase in the average of the number of times each party takes the
field. The number of instruments issued during the past six years is
as follows: 1909, 2,481; 1910, 1,884; 1911, 2,628; 1912, 3,311; 1913,
3,135; and 1914, 3,160. - -
The maintenance of the instrumental equipment requires the over-
hauling, repairing, and adjusting of each instrument after returning
from the field. To do this properly requires so much time that
one-third of the stock of each instrument must of necessity be out
of action, either in transit or in the repair shops. It has been the
aim for years to reach this condition with the fund available, but it
has been impossible. The result is that frequently instruments must
be sent to the field without having received the attention necessary
to put them in proper state of efficiency and preserve their value for
the future.
The increase of $1,500 in the office fund for One power paper cutter
is necessary as the one at present in use is too small for the larger
sizes of charts which are now cut by hand. The increase of $900 for
extra labor is required in order to comply with the recent stringent
requirements of the Public Health Bureau relating to keeping the
public buildings in a sanitary condition and in order to Secure the
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proper care of the valuable property and original records. The
building contains over 70,000 square feet of floor space. During the
past it has been possible to detail to the work of the care of the build-
ings Only an average of four laborers assisted by the messengers dur-
ing the hour of 8 to 9 a. m. This force should be increased by two.
The increase of $2,500 for chart paper is in order to provide a surplus
stock for seasoning. The distortion following the printing of charts
upon paper that has not been properly Seasoned is considerable, and
this correspondingly decreases the value of the chart for use in navi-
gation. The increase of $2,000 for two new furnaces and boilers for
the heating plant is necessary for replacing the old plant for heating
the buildings which has been in use for about 30 years and which is
in such poor condition that it can not be effective much longer. The
boilers are badly pitted and the walls of the furnaces are disinte-
grated. Experts from the Washington Navy Yard state that this
heating plant should be renewed. Aside from the above there is no
increase in the total required for office expenses. Both increases and
decreases appear in the analysis of the list, but such expenses are
necessarily variable. Some of the apparent increases in the analysis
are due to the fact that the amount allotted by law to the department
($4,200) is not included in the column “expended in 1914,” but is
necessarily included in the estimate. The words “ or automobile
truck ’’ have been inserted in the estimate for office expenses, follow-
ing the words “office wagon and horses,” as was done in the estimate
for 1915. The evident economy and efficiency of the automobile truck
over the use of wagon and horses is the reason for this. Then I have
a report from the Navy as to the heating boilers at the Coast and
Geodetic Survey, or at least it is a report on the heating boilers at
the Richards Building, Coast and Geodetic Survey, Department of
Commerce.
(Said report follows:)
UNITED STATES NAVY YARD,
ENGINEER OFFICER's OFFICE,
º :* Washington, D. C., October 20, 1914.
From : Engineer officer. -
TO : COmnandaliſt. * * - -
| Subject: Report on the heating boilers at the Richards Building, Coast and
Geodetic Survey, Department of Commerce.
1. Type of boilers: Horizontal, fire tubular.
2. Repairs made by the navy-yard force : (1) Cleaned and tested boilers;
(2) repaired brickwork around boilers; (3) refitted uptake and furnace doors
and ash-pan doors; (4) overhauled safety valves; (5) repacked boiler stop
valves; (6) tested and adjusted steam gauges.
3. On examination of these boilers considerable pitting was found. On bottom
of water Side of both boilers and on the tubes. The metal around the hand-
hole plate in front of No. 2 boiler has deteriorated to such an extent that it
Was difficult to 1)nalke a tight joint On it.
4. The boilers are old and have been in use more than 15 years. It was
understood before the Work was commenced that Only temporary repairs Were
wanted on the boilers and furnaces, to put them in working Condition for use
this winter. These repairs have been made, but if the boilers are to be relied
upon to furnish heat for the Richards Building in the future. more extensive
repairs will be needed. - -
5. To thoroughly repair this heating plant, including a new set of tubes for
each boiler, cutting out pitted places where necessary on bottom of Water side
of both boilers and hand patching same, repairing cast-iron front frame of
No. 1 boiler, the manufacture of two new ash-pan doors, repairing brick Work
where needed, and overhauling main valves on boilers and Water main, the
estimated cost is as follows: Labor, $551; indirect, $88; material, $305; total,
$944. Time required, 26 days.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 565
6. Should it be decided to install new boilers of the same type, new brick
Walls around boilers and new fronts can be installed at a cost not to exceed
$2,000. It is considered that it would be preferable to install new boilers
rather than to repair the ones now in use,
CHESTER WELI.S.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you make your own light and power, or do you
buy it? - -
Mr. TITTMANN. We have to buy it.
. The CHAIRMAN. From whom do you buy it?
Mr. TITTMANN. We buy the gas; we get some of the electric
power from the Capitol here and the other part we get from the
electric light company.
Secretary REDFIELD. I have examined into this element of ma-
chinery personally, and it is money that would be well spent and
would render a large return. w
Mr., TITTMANN. Here is a matter I have not brought to your
attention, Mr. Secretary, but I have a detailed statement here of
what we could save by connecting the Richards Building and T3utler
Building to the central power and heating plant. The Govern-
ment would save $5,000 now and $2,300 annually. That statement
is perfectly explicit. w
(Said statement follows:)
CONNECTING THE RICFTARDS AND BUTLER BUILDINGS TO THE CENTRAT, POW ER AND
- I-IICATING D.I.A.N.T. -
The iten) of $3,100 for “one electric generator set '' is necessary to furnisly
additional direct current power needed in our plant and not procurable from
contractor. The item of $2,000 for “two new furnaces and boilers for heat-
ing plant ’’ is absolutely necessary to furnish heat for the Richards Building,
as the present plant is worn out, the boilers being badly pitted and the walls
disintegrated. The officials of the Washington Navy Yard, under whom tem-
porary repairs were effected to get us through the Winter, advised me that this
heating plant should be renewed and that it would cost $2.000. -
I would respectfully recommend to your committee that in lieu of these two
items the following item be added : “For labor and material necessary to con-
nect steam and electric service of central power and heating plant to United
States Coast and Geodetic Survey buildings, $2,500.” If this substitution is
made $1,400 may be deducted from our appropriation for coal. There will also
be a saving to the Treasury Department of $950 for coal for the Putler Build-
ing. Tabulated this saving would appear as follows:
A n(tlysis showing saving which may be effected by connecting United States
Coast and Geodetic Survey buildings to central pont:60 ſtºmſl heating plant.
Eliminate electric generator Set----------------------------- $3, 100
Eliminate two new furnaces and boilers––––––––––––––––––––– 2, 000
Total ------------------------------------------------ 5, 100
Substitute connection to central power and heating plant_____ 2, 500 $2,600
Coal for Richards Building (Sundry civil bill)--------- * - sº * * --------- 1, 400
Coal for Butler Building (legislative, executive, and judicial bill, Treas- r:
ury Department) ------------------------------------------------ 950
Total saving, 1916 appl’Opriations---------------------------- 4, 950
Total saving, subsequent appropriations, $2,350 per annum.
The CHAIRMAN. By whom was that statement prepared?
Mr. Trritºrs NN. By Mr. Allen of our office. He has these matters
directly in charge. It would save $5,000 on this appropriation and
$2,300 annually.
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NEW VESSELS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For six new vessels, including
their equipment, $525,000.”
Secretary REDFIELD. Three vessels and three launches. The three
launches are small vessels, 75 feet long and specially equipped for
doing wire-drag work. It is believed that this price can be reduced
if this money were made immediately available, as in the case of
the light-house tenders.
The CHAIRMAN. In the statement it says, three vessels of 580 tons
each, at $228.81. What does that refer to ?
Secretary REDFIELD. Per ton. You will see that in the foot note
just at the bottom of the page. -
The CHAIRMAN. You figure on so much per ton?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. * -
The CHAIRMAN. That is about $133,000 apiece?
Secretary REDFIELD. Substantially, yes. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is to be the character of these vessels?
Secretary REDFIELD. These vessels will be 130 feet on the water
line, with twin Screws, compound engines, two independent water-
tube oil-burning boilers—you will recall that coal is from $12 to
$13 a ton in this section of the country, and these vessels will burn
oil and have an electric plant for the operation of wireless telegraph
and lighting and auxiliary power to furnish power for water con-
densers, refrigerating plant, etc. There will be sanitary and com-
modious quarters, and working space will be provided for officers
and men. These vessels are sent on cruises of six or seven months’
duration in regions remote from facilities obtainable in settled
regions, and consequently have to carry outfit and supplies capable
of meeting all emergencies. The three little vessels are really large
launches and are needed to take the place of the launches now hired
for wire-drag work. These small vessels will be about 75 feet on
the water line, twin screw, two internal compound combustion en-
gines, compressed air for auxiliary, acetylene lighted, sanitary quart-
ers, with working space for four officers and eight men. We are
now paying, I think, a large interest on the cost of those three
launches, and we are never able to get vessels that are alike. I said
to Mr. Courts, in your absence, that if this money were made im-
mediately available we could probably save $10,000 apiece on these
vessels. -
The CHAIRMAN. The launches are to replace vessels used in the
wire-drag work? -
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of these vessels do we use to a wire-
drag party. ! -
Mr. TITTMANN. About three. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Two or three, according to the length of the
drag.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you are contemplating four drag parties?
Mr. TITTMANN. Yes. º -
Secretary REDFIELD. We would continue to hire in Alaska, Mr.
Chairman, because the facts are not sufficiently well worked out there.
Capt. FARIs. I will say, in reference to the wire-drag vessels, that
we have found it best to have different size launches with each party.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 567
The way they are organized now we use one launch from 10 to 12
tons and another one - { .
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). What would be the length over all?
Capt. FARIs. About 40 feet, or about 30 feet in length; then we use
one of about twice that tonnage and another one about the size we
are asking for here. That is the present organization of a single
wire-drag party in the matter of power boats.
The CHAIRMAN. For these wire-drag parties have you now any
vessels of the size of these 3 launches?
h Capt. FARIs. No; they are not quite so large as we have asked for
€I’G.
The CHAIRMAN. About how large?
Capt. FARIs. About 50 tons, I should say, and 65 feet over all.. I
think that is the largest we have. .
The CHAIRMAN. How do you pay for one of those boats?
Capt. FARIs. We pay different prices in different places; say, on
the Atlantic coast $300 a month, and in Alaska last year for the
largest boat we paid $1,000 a month, because we had to have a large
one to house the people. -
The CHAIRMAN. What does the charter include? -
Capt. FARIs. The charter includes simply the maintenance of the
vessel in good repair.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean, what is furnished with the vessel ?
Capt. FARIs. That is all.
The CHAIRMAN. The vessel alone? -
Capt. FARIs. The repair charges' are included in the charter, and
everything else is furnished by the Coast and Geodetic Survey.
Thº, CHAIRMAN. So that when you stop using it your expense
Ce2LSeS 9
Capt. FARIs. Unless we say we will deliver it back to the place from
which we got it. We have to do that in the case of Alaska in order
to bring back our party, because the parties really go up on these
boats and come back on them. * - - - -
Secretary REDFIELD. We have to mount this reel at our own cost.
Capt. FARIS. We have to bear the expense of mounting our ma-
chinery on these vessels for the operation of the drags, and then we
have to take off the foundations, or whatever we put in, when we give
up the vessels.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the apparatus?
Capt. FARIs. A power reel for reeling in this wire or for letting
it out; racks for buoys and sinkers; signaling device, etc.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does it" cost to mount one of those
reels?
Capt. FARIs. I can not give you the exact figures.
The CHAIRMAN. Well, about how much? -
Capt. FARIs. It is my impression that we pay something around
$300.
The CHAIRMAN. For the reels?
Capt. FARIs. Yes.
Th; CHAIRMAN. But how much does it cost to mount them on the
boats?
Capt. FARIs. I do not know. t
Secretary REDFIELD. How long does it take?
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. Capt. WELKER. It takes the time of the crew; its takes the crew's
time from the work in mounting it, and the work has to be delayed
to that extent; that is, the crew is delayed every day it takes to
mount the reel. - q.
The CHAIRMAN. Where would these three vessels be assigned?
Secretary REDFIELD. One on the Atlantic coast, to replace the
Endeavor. g
The CHAIRMAN. I mean the launches.
Secretary REDFIELD. For the North Atlantic?
The CHAIRMAN. All three?
Secretary REDFIELD. Probably, although it is possible they might
use one on the Florida coast.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the length of these larger vessels?
Secretary REDFIELD. One hundred and thirty feet, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any estimate as to what it would cost.
to operate them a year? . .
Secretary REDFIELD. No ; we have made no exact estimate. It
would have to be determined after we had got the actual specifica-
tions of the ships. However, they will cost much less to operate
than the Gedney and MoArthur; they will be much faster and do
twice as much work, as you can Well understand when you remem-
ber the fact that not one of these vessels can move against a head
sea at all. That is easily understood from the fact that these old
vessels burn coal instead of oil, and that these new vessels would
have compound engines instead of single-cylinder engines.
(Statement submitted by Secretary Redfield follows:)


Monthly cost of wire-drag vessels hired in 1914.
Description of Vessels. CoSt. (per month) 5
- --- E
Party. Locality of work. t e *A 5
tº. - ...t. 92 ſ. 5 gº g=4 Cl
+-> On 35 +--> e * g-t
Motor. 29 | * > | # E | *S | <
§ e 3 || 3 || 3 | Pº 5
- | T. P. 3 C | F. E-
& - ~ - ſ 46 35| S170
N. H. Heck (2.8 months). | Florida . . . . . . . . . . . Gasoline . . . . . . . . . . 37 30| 150|} $800 $71|$1,271
. 26 10 80 -
. 28 12 S5 :
N. H. Heck (7 months). | New Eng I 2 n d . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . 4() 20 99|} 800 150 1,434
CO2St. : 65 60 300 -
- - 30 10 125
J. H. Hawley (3.7 months)| Massachusetts. . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . 42 15| 160]), 800 71) 1,324
* 41 25, 168 -
----do. . . . . . . . . . . . 35| 12| 240
J. A. Daniels (3.8 months) | Alaska. . . . . . . . . . . . . ----do------------ 65 75' 600 }1,034 150 3,029
Steam . . . . . . . . . . . . S8, 200 º *
1 The monthly cost of the crew for each wire-drag party on the Atlantic coast includes the expense of
ving on shore.
In reference to hiring vessels for the wire-drag work, it has not been possible
to obtain a vessel suitable in size, power, or deck space for handling the ap-
paratus. With the exception of the one steam vessel used in the Alaska work
none of them has any living quarters for the officers or crew, this necessitating
their having to run morning and evening to Some point where quarters and
board could be found for them on shore. The quarters on the steam vessel
used in Alaska were entirely inadequate and unfit to accommodate the 21
officers and men required to operate the wire drag. Nine persons lived in a
space only large enough for four, the officers and men had to eat from the same
mess and at the sº me table at different times. The living Colnditions were in-
sanitary and degrading.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 569
COMPEN SATION TO EMPIOYEES FOR IN J U RIES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Hereafter the benefits of the act
of May 30, 1908, entitled ‘An act granting to certain employees of
the United States the right to receive from it compensation for in-
juries sustained by them in the course of their employment,” shall be
extended to persons employed by the United States in any hazardous
employment in the Coast and Geodetic Survey.” That will be con-
sidered.
LITHOGRAPHIC PRESS.
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The next item is “One lithographic press, $6,200.” -
Secretary REDFIELD. Now, Mr. Chairman, in view of the fact that
we had an interesting discussion on that last year, I personally went
to the pressroom and went into this matter myself. I will ask you
to remember that long before you and I were friends—although that
seems a great while to me—I spent several years in a printing press
concern, and I want to read to you a statement I prepared and dic-
tated myself on this subject: :
At present half of the total time of the press is required in wash-
ing up to change colors, so that the press is necessarily idle as re-
gards production one-half of the whole time. There are certain
occasions when this is increased because certain colors take longer
for cleaning up than others. In addition, every plate that is printed
requires that the press be stopped to examine the proof (and some
charts are required to be printed in five different colors), which
means a loss of from 20 minutes to half an hour. If corrections
are then made they are put on, and this means a further stoppage of
half an hour. The result is that it is common practice not to have
the press available for actual printing for more than one-third of a
day. The press, therefore, must be considered as a producing maxi-
mum of not to exceed 24 hours daily. In this 24 hours it would,
if run continuously; produce 2,000 impressions. A single chart, how-
ever, requires five separate printings, and based upon an average
production of 400 a day means 2,000 printings a day. Consequently,
the present capacity is overtaxed whenever any sudden demand comes
for a chart. A demand, therefore, coming from the Navy, or from
any marine source, is necessarily delayed both until the new chart
can go through the five printings necessary to produce it with the
Washings up. Consequently, while there may be times in the absence
of Special demands, when the printings may be up with the require-
ments, there are certain also to be times when the printings are far
behind. -
The present method, involving as it does the restriction of the
printing Operations to one-third of the actual time, is necessarily
uneconomical and wasteful. The situation would, of course, be im-
proved by one additional press, but even this would not allow a
single printing to produce a completed chart. \
The present press is eleven years old and is of a type that is obso-
lete in all commercial plants. The Hydrographic Office has in use
one of the new type offset presses, and has lately installed a second
one. It would greatly improve the situation in the Coast Survey
Office if a second offset press were had.
Furthermore, because of the lack of printing time available, it is
necessary to run off as large editions as circumstances permit. This
570 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
means that many hand corrections have to be made on these charts
so printed in large editions, otherwise the charts would be wasted.
With greater printing facilities smaller editions could be printed
more frequently and save all this hand labor. To show what this
means, it is a fact that during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1914,
114,922 Separate charts were thus corrected by hand, involving over
470,000 separate corrections made by hand, merely because the print-
ing facilities were not sufficient, for with enough presses and the
printing of frequent editions these corrections would have been made
on the plate and most of the changes by hand saved. Furthermore,
corrections made on the plate are much more correct than those made
by hand on the charts. In addition, there was a loss from our stock
of not less than 5,000 charts during the last fiscal year caused by
the number of hand corrections on each of them proving to be so
numerous that was impracticable to use them. This would all have
been saved if we had had printing facilities for frequent editions,
but this can not now be done because if we attempted to do the work
in this way, we should never be able to keep up with the demand on
our printing plant. *
Another important feature is the necessity of completing the
printing of a chart under like weather conditions. The marks show-
ing buoys are very small, and as the paper expands and contracts
with the amount of moisture in the atmosphere it results in throwing
the printing out of register with the result that a buoy may be and
sometimes is placed in a position which is wrong sufficiently to mis-
lead. This happens merely because having but one press the printed
maps must lie over a day, or two, or three, during which the weather
conditions alter the size of the printed maps already made. This
may and does sometimes go so far as destroy the chart. It also
sometimes results in placing two buoys along side of each other
where but one exists, and involves the waste of labor and of the
paper used. It now takes from three to seven days to print a com-
pleted chart because of the changes of colors required on the chart,
and during this time a change in the weather may, and sometimes
does, injure if not destroy the work already completed.
With the offset type of press which is now asked, it is probable
that a cheaper grade of paper could be used to advantage, and a
grade of paper which would be more readily obtained. The present
type of press requires a high finish of paper, which it is difficult to
obtain, and sometimes is impossible to obtain a satisfactory quality.
The CHAIRMAN. You still use the old press?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes; under these conditions, of course, we
must use it. -
The CHAIRMAN. I mean if you got this new offset press?
Secretary REDFIELD. Oh, yes. .
The CHAIRMAN. It was stated last year that would be a very un-
satisfactory arrangement.
Secretary REDFIELD. I think it could be managed without serious
difficulty.
The CHAIRMAN. How many maps were printed and issued last
year?
Mr. WAINWRIGHT. One hundred and forty-three thousand.
The CHAIRMAN. That is about half the number that was published
the year before?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 57].
Mr. WAINWRIGHT. No, sir; a little more than the number published
the year before, 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. How many impressions to these various maps?
Secretary REDFIELD. Sometimes five.
The CHAIRMAN. What will they average?
Mr. WAINWRIGHT. Three. The first is the black impression which
shows the principal details. Next to that we have the land tint so
as to bring out the difference between the land areas and the water
areas, and then to accentuate the shoal parts of the water areas
we print those in blue. This [indicating] is the blue print. Here,
[indicating] is the very difficult buoy print. This is a very small
chart which was made for the Panama Exposition. The ordinary
chart is much larger than this. -
jºy REDFIELD. These are all separate operations; is that the
ICle?, ?
Mr. WAINwrighT. A number of different printings that it is nec-
essary to run the chart through the press. -
EMIPLOYEES FOR PRINTING MAPS FOR POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For compensation of employees
in Washington, District of Columbia, and all other necessary ex-
penses for the reproducing, lithographing, and printing of maps for
the Post Office Department; the sum of $5,960 to be immediately
available, $20,260.”
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Chairman, you will recall that we asked
for four presses. The Post Office Department thought that we
would do that work for them, but they have made some different
plan and that item goes out.
SUBSISTENCE OF EMPLOYEES IN WASHINGTON.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Appropriations herein for the
Coast and Geodetic Survey shall not be available for allowance of
subsistence in Washington (except as hereinbefore provided for
persons employed in field work ordered to Washington for short
periods for consultation with the superintendent); except as now
provided by law.” What is the purpose of these changes? -
Mr. TITTMANN. Putting in the word “persons”. It would have
no effect. on anything except to make it comply with the law.
MoRDAY, JANUARY 11, 1915.
BUREAU OF FISHERIES.
STATEMENTS OF HON, WILLIAM C. REDFIELD, SECRETARY OF
COMMERCE; MR. HUGH M. SMITH, COMMISSIONER; MR. E.
LESTER JONES, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER; AND MR. HECTOR WON
BAYER, ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER, BUREAU OF FISHERIES.
- COMMISSIONER'S of FICE.
ASSISTANT IN CHARGE OF PACIFIC COAST OFFICE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Bureau of Fisheries: Commis-
sioner's Office,” and the appropriation is $96,680, and your estimate
572 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
is $112,280. That is due to the request for an assistant in charge
of Pacific coast office, $2,200? - . -
Mr. SMITH. We have found it desirable, Mr. Chairman, to estab-
lish a branch office of the bureau on the Pacific coast in order to
facilitate our various activities there—fish cultural, biological inves-
tigations, fishery investigations, and our general Alaskan Service.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is this station to be located?
Mr. SMITH. We have already opened the office in Seattle.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is in charge of the office now % *
Mr. SMITH. The office is temporarily in charge of a man from our
Alaskan service, but we do not think it desirable or proper to with-
draw from that branch one of the fishery agents. . . . “...
The CHAIRMAN. What is done in this office? -
Mr. SMITH. It is a sort of clearing house for all of the work on
that coast. -
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by a “sort of clearing house
Secretary REDFIELD. These activities embrace some Supervision of
extensive fish-cultural operations covering stations in Alaska, Wash-
ington, and Oregon; the purchasing and shipping of supplies for
the native inhabitants on the fur-seal islands; promotion of the
commercial fisheries; scientific and economic investigations pertain-
ing to fish culture and the fisheries; and the Supervision of the
shipment of the fur-seal catch, involving property of a considerable
sum. It is almost impossible to care for the details of that matter
intelligently from Washington. The single item of the salmon fish-
eries represents over $20,000,000 a year. -
» ()
ASSISTANT, D1 VISION OF INQUIRY RESPECTING FOOD FISHES.
The CHAIRMAN. One assistant, Division of Inquiry Respecting
Food Fishes, $2,000. Is that in the office at Washington?
Mr. SMITH. That assistant will be available for field duty. He is
required primarily for work in the field, particularly with reference
to the shellfish industry. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What have you now in that division?
Mr. SMITH. The assistants who are now in that division are shown
in the estimates. We have one at $2,500, one at $1,800, and one at
$1,600. * . . . .
The CHAIRMAN. You have $45,000 for “inquiry into the causes
of the decrease of food fishes in the waters Óf the United States’’?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is in charge of that work now Ż
Mr. SMITH. The assistant in charge of the division, at $2,700.
The CHAIRMAN. What is he going to do?
Mr. SMITH. He is the general administrative head of all that
work, the laboratory work in Washington, the field work in different
parts of the country, and the administration of three laboratories
located in Massachusetts, North Carolina, and on the Mississippi
River. -
The CHAIRMAN. You want to add an assistant to him?
Mr. SMITH. We want an assistant for that division.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you not pay him out of this lump
appropriation :
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 573.
Mr. SMITH. We want Congress to establish the position for a man
who will devote most of his time to a study of our most neglected
but most important aquatic resource, namely, the shellfish.
Secretary REDFIELD. We have had but one additional assistant in
15 years. -
The CHAIRMAN. This appropriation only started about 1906, and
it has almost doubled in that time. -
Secretary REDFIELD. You are speaking of the lump sum :
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. _*
Secretary REDFIELD. We can not use the lump sum for the employ-
ment of an assistant in Washington.
Mr. SMITH. This is a man who will not be attached to any par-
ticular station.
The CHAIRMAN. None of the men in the office is attached to any
particular station? -
Mr. SMITH. But the man is not required only for work in Wash-
ington; he is wanted for the field. -
The CHAIRMAN. What could he do in the field differently from a
man employed under the lump-sum appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. There are no permanent men employed under the
regular appropriation; that is for the expenses of the men who are
already in the service.
The CHAIRMAN. No personal services at all?
Mr. SMITH. Temporary services for a month or two.
The CHAIRMAN. . You have 15 Scientific assistants, an artist, and
laboratory assistants? -
Mr. SMITH. It is necessary to obtain a man who is well qualified
in this particular branch. We can not pick up a man at large and
employ him for two or three-months, and then let him go and expect
to get him again when we need him. We should employ him by the
year. . .
The CHAIRMAN. You have that kind of a man, an assistant in
charge of the division, at $2,700?
Mr. SMITH. He is not available for investigations in the field of
the kind that we are expected to make.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you not employ the man you want out
of this appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. The appropriation is not large enough.
The CHAIRMAN. The men you employ out of the appropriation
are engaged in field work. The man you are asking for here is not
to be an office man? -
Mr. SMITH. No, sir; he is not to be an office man.
Secretary REDFIELD. Would you not use him some of the time in
the office?
Mr. SMITH. He would get his orders in Washington and proceed
to the field for special investigation, decided on as necessary.
The CHAIRMAN. You want this additional man attached to the
office force? *
Mr. SMITH. Attached to the office force, but available for field
work. . *
Secretary REDFIELD. We can not employ him in Washington under
the lump-sum appropriation.
574 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
FISH PATHOLOGIST.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fish pathologist (to be ap-
pointed by the Secretary of Commerce) $2,500.”
$ecretary REDFIELD. This is a matter that we put very great
Weight upon. Let me present for the information of the committee
5 letter from the medical School of the University of Michigan, a
letter from the commissioner of fisheries of the State of Wisconsin,
a letter from the department of zoology of the University of Cali-
fornia, a letter from the medical school of Harvard University, a
letter from the college of medicine of the University of Illinois, a
letter from Prof. Sedgwick, of the Massachusettss Institute of Tech-
nology, and a letter from the Georgetown University.
The CHAIRMAN. Were these letters written in response to a com-
munication sent out from the service itself?
Secretary REDFIELD. Not from me.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not care from whom, but anybody connected
with the bureau?
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know about that.
The CHAIRMAN. I have received some letters myself that you
have not mentioned which would indicate that they had been written
as the result of a suggestion from somebody connected with the
T3ureau of Fisheries.
Secretary REDFIELD. I told Dr. Smith that I felt the great impor-
tance of this matter, and that its effect upon human life was not ap-
preciated by this committee, and I asked him
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). The only trouble is that instigated
correspondence does not have any effect on anybody.
Secretary REDFIELD. This correspondence is not instigated in any
such sense as that. It comes from men who are above that sort of
thing. I
The CHAIRMAN. I know. I have received letters from men who
do not know anything about the situation.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know anything about that. We fur-
nished no facts, we made no suggestions as to what should be written.
These letters are not written by teachers, but by the heads of the
medical schools of the greatest universities of the country, and in
one case the letter is signed by five members of the faculty. It can
not be ignored on the ground of instigated correspondence. They
are the most famous medical authorities in the United States and
can not be impugned. -
Mr. SHERLEY." Not impugned, but if you had in Congress the ex-
perience this committee has had you would know that any man here
can fill a volume with letters from every college in America on prac-
tically any subject on earth if he will write and ask them. That has
become one of the worst abuses in Congress.
Secretary REDFIELD. Did you ask them what they would say?
Mr. SMITH. No, sir.
Secretary REDFIELD. Did you suggest to them that they write
favorable letters?
Mr. SMITH. No, sir. *
Secretary REDFIELD. They were simply asked to tell us what they
thought upon the subject? e -
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir. A
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 575
Mr. SHERLEY. The point is this: We are willing to take letters
for what they are worth, but there is only one side of the case stated
when a department writes letters seeking indorsements.
Secretary REDFIELD. We have not done that.
Mr. SHIERLEY. The department does not state the question that the
legislator must consider. I submit in all candor that this commit-
tee could not for a moment be guided by solicited letters touching
legislative matters—
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). This is not such a case. This
is a medical matter, and I take it that the committee does not pre-
tend to be intimately informed on medical matters. •
The CIIAIRMAN. The committee has a good deal of information
about those matters.
Secretary REDFIELD. Therefore, it seemed to me to be both proper
and wise to ask unbiased and unsuggested opinions from the leading
medical authorities of this country, and I think I am doing the
committee a kindness in presenting that testimony, and I will con-
tinue to do it whenever it seems to be practicable and proper, be-
cause what better information can you have? -
The CHAIRMAN. I can get leading authorities on any subject in
the United States to write letters urging Congress to make appro-
priations for almost any purpose. -
Mr. SHERLEY. The best illustration of it is what happened in the
case of the Bureau of Education. The propaganda of the head of
the Bureau of Education was to my mind absolutely unjustifiable
on the part of a Government officer. He did not get what he thought
he should have, and he undertook to build a back-fire on members
of this committee by Sending out a partial, incomplete picture of
what he considered to be the necessities of his bureau, and on the
basis of that letter from him, hundreds of letters were coming to
Members of Congress from people who had not any opportunity to
canvass the subject and who could not know the problem which
confronted the committee, which must consider the money involved
as well as the desire to do particular work.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know to whom you refer.
Mr. SHERLEY. I mentioned him, and he was named on the floor
of the House. It was a matter in which the House expressed very
considerable resentment. It was Mr. Claxton, of the Bureau of
Education. -
Secretary REDFIELD. I would not permit a thing of that kind.
Mr. SHERLEY. Then, we had an instance some years ago in the
case of the Geological Survey, when they undertook to build a back-
, fire on Congress. I do not know of any more reprehensible prac-
tice than giving out simply the departmental viewpoint with the
idea of creating a public sentiment that shall intimidate Members
of Congress in the performance of their duties. º
The CHAIRMAN. Letters were sent out from the Bureau of 'Fish-
eries to these people?
Mr. SMITH. Some of them I wrote to and some I spoke to per-
Sonally.
Secretary REDFIELD. We have submitted that item three times in
succession now, and we have presented actual testimony of children
}osing their lives from an unknown cause which this would have pre-
576 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
vented. For three years we have presented this, but we have re-
ceived nothing. The item has been put on in the Senate and then
taken out in the House. What is a public officer to do to convince a
committee that will not take his word and will not take his experi-
ence, except to present to them this written *
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Suppose Congress does not agree
with you? - -
Secretary REDFIELD. Pardon me, I had not quite finished. What
is an officer to do when his word is not taken—and you have a per-
fect right not to take it—except to present this written medical
testimony? •.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not consider that kind of testimony of value
to the committee. f
Secretary REDFIELD. The head of Harvard University does not
write foolish letters.
The CHAIRMAN. He may not, but there are heads of universities
who do write foolish letters about matters of legislation.
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Gillett is personally acquainted with one
gentleman who writes a letter, Dr. Sedgwick, who is quite above
what you have suggested.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you anything else to present?
Secretary REDFIELD. Nothing except the fact that children have
lost their lives due to causes winich we believe are traceable to fish.
Mr. SHERLEY. There is this fundamental question involved, and
that is how far the Federal Government shall go into the investiga-
tion of questions of hygiene and medicine. So far, while we occupy
quite a large field, we have not yet undertaken to entirely dispense
with the private research work that is being done and which has
resulted in most of the discoveries for the benefit of mankind.
Those are questions of policy that are not always presented fully in
letters soliciting advice from heads of colleges, which makes their
letters sometimes hardly conclusive on the question of what should
be done. -
Secretary REDFIELD. Quite so.
Mr. SHERLEY. It is impossible for Congress to judge public Senti-
ment accurately from letters that come as a result of governmental
solicitation x
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). I have described that Solicita-
tion, and f do not think it is quite fair to state it that way. Con-
gress has just appropriated $2,500,000 on account of the foot-and-
mouth disease among cattle, and it makes an appropriation annually
for the Public Health Service. Both of those are precedents that
bear on this request that the paltry sum of $2,500 be appropriated
for this purpose, which has just as much to do with your health and
mine and the health of our children as the other appropriation re-
ferred to. The thing that is incomprehensible to me is that this
attitude can be taken. Personally I would rather you would reduce
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my 'salary by that amount and put this in. I would be willing to
accept it. &
Mr. Srry RLEY. We are not discussing the merits of your proposi-
Qtion. We are discussing the advisability of having Members of
Congress presented with letters that do not reflect the individual
initiative of the writers. That opens up a very Serious question.
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Secretary REDFIELD. If I ask you to write for me your view on a
subject, without suggesting what that view should be, you are free
to express any view you see fit. Personally I did not know what
was in those letters. I can not tell you what one of them says.
The CHAIRMAN. All of them are addressed to you and not to us.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not know whether they are or not.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for this language, “to be appointed by
the Secretary of Commerce.” What is the reason for that?
Mr. JoBANNES. The reason is that otherwise he would be a presi-
dential appointee and would have to be confirmed by the Senate.
The CHAIRMAN. Why?
Mr. Johan NEs. The Attorney General has ruled that way.
Mr. MoRDELL. He would not be a civil-service employee?
Mr. JoBANNEs. If appointed by the Secretary he would be.
Mr. GILLETT. Would he be if appointed by the Secretary 3 Could
not the Secretary appoint whoever he pleased?
Secretary REDFIELD. I want him to be a civil-service employee.
Mr. Jon Es. We had the position of warden created in the Alaskan
service, and because that clause was not inserted
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). That was a different situation.
That was due to the law.
Mr. JoEIANNEs. No, sir; the Attorney General decided that.
The CHAIRMAN. Every position created in that way is not a presi-
dential appointment.
Mr. JoBIANNES. We so understand it. Those wardens in Alaska
were provided for exactly like this. A
The CHAIRMAN. There was something in the Alaska law that
changed it.
Mr. GILLETT. Can you refer us to that opinion of the Attorney
General?
Mr. JoBIANNEs. I can send it to you.
The CHAIRMAN. What about this assistant in charge of the Pacific
coast office? - *
Mr. JoBIANNEs. That is not an entirely new place; I think that is
the reason.
Secretary REDFIELD. The other assistants are not so appointed.
The CHAIRMAN. Send us a copy of that opinion. -
Mr. Johan NES. I will be glad to do that.
(The opinion referred to is as follows:)
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
Washington, June 7, 1917.
The SECRETARY OF COMIMERCE AND LABOR.
SIR : Under date of April 20, 1911, you wrote that “ by reason of certain pro-
visions of the sundry civil appropriation act for the ensuing fiscal year, con-
sidered in connection with other legislation and with corresponding provisions
Of the current appropriation act, this department is called upon to determine
Whether in the case of certain positions the reappointment or new appointment
of present incumbents is necessary, and whether where new appointments are
required in any case they must be made by the President, by and with the
advice and consent of the Senate; or may be made by the Secretary of Commerce
and Labor.” w
You therefore request my opinion upon the several questions set forth below.
1. The office of Deputy Commissioner of Fisheries was created by an item in
the Sundry civil appropriation act of 1903 (32 Stat., 1102), appropriating $3,000
for the annual salary of such an officer. The act failed to specify how or by
whom the appointment should be made, and the place was filled by the appoint-
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ment of the present incumbent by the head of the Department of Commerce
and Labor. The salary of $3,000 has been continued regularly in subsequent
appropriation acts, and by the sundry civil appropriation act of March 4, 1911
(36 Stat., 1363, 1435), the compensation is increased to $3,500 per annum, effec-
tive July 1, 1911. s
Upon this state of facts, you inquire : -
“Should the position of JDeputy Commissioner of Eisleries be filled by appoint-
ment or reappointment, effective July 1, 1911, assuming the intention to be to
retain the present incumbent? If such appointment is necessary, must it be
made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, or
may it be made by the lead Of the department? If it may not be made by the
head of the department, is the existing appointment Of the present incumbent
a Walid. One?” -
The Constitution provides (Art. II, sec. 2) that all officers of the United
States shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent
Of the Senate, except where, in case of inferior officers, Congress shall other-
Wise provide by law. The general rule deducible from this provision is that, in
the absence of an express enactment to the contrary, the appointment of any
Officer of the United States belongs to the President, by and with the advice and
consent of the Senate. (6 Op., 691; 15 ib., 3, 449; 17 ib., 532; 18 ib., 98, 298;
26 ib., 627).
There being no specific statutory authority given you to appoint the Deputy
Conumissioner of Fisheries, it is clear that you do not possess such authority
unless the position comes within the scope of section 169 of the Revised Statutes,
which provides that “each head of a department is authorized to employ in
his department such number of clerks of the several classes recognized by law,
and such messengers, assistant messengers, copyists, Watchmen, laborers, and
other employees, and at such rate of compenation, respectively, as may be
appropriated for by Congress from year to year.” &
It was held by Attorney General Pierrepont (15 Op. A. G., 3) that a Deputy
Comptroller of the Treasury, a Deputy Commissioner of Custonis, a Deputy
Allditor of the Treasury, and a Deputy IRegister of the Treasury did not come
Within the scope of section 169 of the Revised Statutes so as thereby to Vest
their appointment in the head of the Treasury Department. There being no
express statutory provision for the appointment of such officers, it was held
that they could only be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and
COnsent Of the Senate. -
Ilikewise (26 Op. A. G., 628). Attorney General Bonaparte held that a Sec-
Ond Deputy Comptroller of the Treasury was not a clerk Within the meaning of
section 169 of the Revised Statutes, and must be appointed by the President, by
and with the advice and consent of the Senate, there being no express statutory
provision for the appointment of Such Officer. &
The office of Deputy Commissioner of Fisheries is of like grade to those
offices just mentioned. While his duties are not prescribed by statute, the title
of the office mecessarily implies a power to perform all the duties which might .
be performed by the Commissioner of Fisheries, the nature of whose Office is
defined by sections 4395 and 4396 of the Revised Statutes, and whose appoint-
ment is vested in the President, by and with the advice and consent of the
Senate.
This case is parallel to that of the Second Deputy Comptroller of the Treas-
ury, above cited, the office of such deputy having been created merely by an
appropriation, as in the present case, without prescribing his duties. AS Said
in that opinion (26 Op., 630) :
“Generally speaking, a deputy has power to do every act which his principal
may do and is not restrained to some particulars of his office. (Throop On
Public Officers, sec. 583: Mechem on Public Officers, sec. 570: Erwin v. |United
States, 37 Feſl. Itep., 470.) Doubtless it was on account of this general rule
and with the intention that there should be no restriction that Congress did not
deem it necessary to prescribe specifically the duties of the additional deputy
Comptroller.” *
Following witl approval the ruling in the cases cited, I beg to advise you that
the present incumbent of the Office of Delnuty Commissioner of Fisheries is not
legally appointed, his present status being a de facto officer. The appointment
must be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the
Son: to. A new a ſppointment of the Deputy Commissioner of Fisheries, effective
July 1, 1911, is not made necessary, however, merely by reason of the increase
of the salary of the oſlice. (1 Comp. Dec., 267 ; ib., 313; 3 ib., 336.)
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2. The position of Chief of the Division of Alaska Fisheries, in the Bureau of
Fisheries, at a salary of $3,500, is provided for for the first time by the sundry
Civil al)])ropriation act of March 4, 1911, and the act is silent as to how or by
whom the position shall be filled. Under the circumstances you request my
Opinion as to whether the appointment must be made by the President, by and
With the advice and consent of the Senate, or whether it may be made by the
lead of the department. - *
I am not advised that the duties of this officer are defined by statute, and
infer that the general character of his duties is not unlike that of chiefs of
division generally in the several executive departments. It seems to be the
practice to l'egard such cliefs of division as clerks, within the meaning of sec-
tion 169 of the Revised Statutes, to be appointed by the heads of departments
in the absence of express statutory provisions to the contrary.
In 21 Op. A. G., 364, Attorney General Harmon, in holding that the power of
appointment of the chief clerk, chiefs of bureaus, and translator in the State
Department was vested in the Secretary of State, said : “The chiefs of division
in the Various departments have, I believe, always been regarded as clerks, and
this construction has received the approval of the Attorney General. (15 Op., 3,
6; 20 Op., 72S.)"
You are accordingly advised that the Chief of the Division of Alaska Fisheries
should be appointed by you.
3. The Division of Alaska Fisheries was created by the sundry civil appro-
priation act of March 4, 1911, with a clief of division, above referred to, and
Clerical assistance, and there were placed under this division the Officers in
the Alaska full-seal fisheries Service and the Alaska. Salmon-fisheries Service.
The act provides: For the fur-seal fisheries, one agent, $3,650; assistant agent,
$2,920; two assistant agents, at $2.190 each ; and for the Alaska salmon fisheries,
One agent, $2,500; inspector, $1,800; assistant agent, $2,000. These positions
appear to be in no essential particular different from those provided for the
same service in the Sundry civil appropriation act for the fiscal year 1911 (36
Stat., 703). You state that “no change has been made in the salary and no
appreciable change in the designation. The duties will be identical, and there is
no intention of changing the incumbents.”
There were created the following new positions in the Division of Alaska
Fisheries: For, the Alaska salmon-fisheries Service, one assistant agent, $1,800;
warden, $1,200; four deputy wardens, at $600 each.
In regard to the foregoing you inquire :
“ Under the circumstances is there any necessity for the reappointment,
effective July 1, 1911, Of the four Seal agents, the two Salmon agents, and the
One Salmon inspector now holding the positions referred to ? In the case of
certain new positions Created by the later act, namely, one assistant Salmon
agent, one salmon warden, and four deputy wardens, may appointments thereto
be made by the head of the department?”
Answering your first question, I beg to Say that I can See no legal necessity
for the reappointment of the present incumbents of the offices referred to.
There appears to be no evidence that it was the intention of Congress to abolish
the existing positions and create new ones. . The mere creation of a new admin-
istrative division, in which such positions are placed, does not establish new
offices. The existing offices are, in my judgment, continued. '
In regard to the new positions mentioned in the Second question, I think ap-
pointments thereto must be made by the President, by and with the advice and
consent of the Senate. I am aware Of no ex])ress Statutory authority given you
to make such appointments. These are officers whose duties are manifestly not
clerical, nor can they, in my judgment, be considered otherwise within the Scope
of Section 169 of the Revised Statutes.
Furthermore it is to be noted that the existing agents in the Alaska Salmon-
fisheries service are required to be appointed by the President, by and With the
advice and consent of the Senate. The Sundry civil appropriation act approved
April 28, 1904 (33 Stat., 478), provided as follows:
“For the protection of the salmon fisheries of Alaska, including Salaries of
one agent, at two thousand five hundred dollars, and one assistant agent, at
two thousand dollars, to be appointed by the President, by and With the advice
and consent of the Senate, and to be in lieu of any and all agents Or in SpectOTS
now authorized by law for this purpose, seven thousand dollars.” e e
4. By the act of March 4, 1911, there are also placed in the Division of
Alaska Fisheries, among other positions, a naturalist, fur-seal fisheries, at $3,000,
and two physicians, Pribilof Islands, at $1,200 each.
580 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
You State that a naturalist was originally appointed by the head of the De-
partment of Commerce and Labor, at $3,000, under authority of the act of April.
21, 1910 (36 Stat., 326). I am also advised informally by the solicitor of your
Čiepartment that the two physicians referred to are for the Alaska fur-seal
fisheries Service ; that they were likewise appointed, and are now in the service.
The act of April 21, 1910, is entitled “An act to protect the seal fisheries of
Alaska, and for other purposes,” and by its first section the Secretary of Com-
merce and Labor is authorized to appoint officers, agents, and employees to carry
into effect the provisions of said act in relation to killing fur seals and the
taking of sealskins on the Pribilof Islands. Section 9 provides “that the Sec-
retary Of Commerce and Labor shall have authority to appoint such additional
Officers, agents, and employees as may be necessary to carry out the provisions
Of this act and the laws of the United States relating to the seal fisheries of
Alaska, to prescribe their duties and to fix their compensation ; * * * *
You are thus given complete authority over all necessary appointments to the
Alaska full-seal fisheries service ; and it appears that you have exercised that
authority in the case of the naturalist and the two physicians. In merely mak-
ing Specific appropriations for these positions there was Obviously no ill tention
On the part of Congress to create new positions.
My answer to your inquiry concerning these positions is, therefore, that you
are authorized to make appointments thereto, and that if the present incumbents
are to be retained there is no necessity for their reappointment effective July 1,
1911. - t
5. By the sundry civil appropriation act of March 4, 1911, the following new
positions are created, in the Bureau of the Coast and Geodetic Survey, at the
annual compensation stated : 1 engraver, at $2,400; 2 engravers, at $2,200; 1
electrotyper or photographer, etc., $2,400; in the Bureau of Fisheries, 1 local
agent, Seattle, Wash., $600. A
By the legislative, executive, and judicial appropriation act of March 4, 1911
(36 Stat., 1231), there are created the following new positions in the Bureau of
Standards, at the annual compensation stated : 1 physicist, $2,500; 1 physicist,
$2,200; 1 physicist, $2,000; 1 assistant physicist, $1800; 1 assistant physicist,
$1,600; I assistant chemist, $1,800; 2 assistant physicists, at $1,400 each ; 2
laboratory assistants, at $1,200 each ; 2 laboratory assistants, at $1,000 each ; 2
laboratory assistants, at $900 each ; 3 aids, at $720 each ; 3 aids, at $600 each; 1
Superintendent of mechanical plant, $2,500.
You ask which, if any, of the positions must be filled by appointment made by
the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and which may
be made by the head of the department.
In my opinion all these positions fall within the provisions of section 169 of
the Revised Statutes, and should, therefore, be filled by appointments made by
you. While, as indicated by their designations, they are in the main positions
requiring technical skill, the same is true of many other places in the classified
civil service. In 21 Op., 363, 364, Attorney General Harmon held that a “trans-
lator, an official whose existence is recognized Only in the annual appropria-
tion act, and whose duties are purely clerical,” was a clerk within the meaning
of section 169. The same may be said of the places here in question. The
act simply 'provides for the employment of certain persons with technical skill,
who are properly to be regarded as clerks rather than officers. As said by
Attorney General Pierrepont (15 Op., 6), referring to section 169, “That clause
was unquestionably intended to have a very comprehensive scope, and to em-
brace a variety of subordinate officers in the different departments besides
those designated as clerks of the first, second, third, and fourth classes,” and
in view of the fact that section 169 is a standing provision, it is also fair to
assume that Congress did not intend it to be limited to the classes of clerks
“recognized by law '' at the time of the revision.
In the case of the local agent at Seattle, Wash., I am advised informally by
the Bureau of Fisheries that his duties are to be strictly Clerical.
Respectfully, e
GEORGE W. WICKERSHIAM,
Attorney General.
/
Mr. SMITH. Will you permit me to say a word about the position
of fish pathologist, without reference to the human side, but simply
on the economic proposition that is involved? We are losing an
enormous amount of money in the value of fish that die every year,
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and we are utterly unable to combat those losses. I have here a
list of 12 stations at which during the year 1914 there was lost
rainbow and brook trout alone to the value of $9,814, and there were
Other losses that occurred at other stations.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you not have an investigation made of this
question? You have an appropriation for inquiries into the causes
of the decrease of food fishes in the waters of the United States, and
for investigations and experiments in respect to the acquatic animals,
plants, and waters, in the interest of fish culture and the fishery in-
dustries, including expenses of travel and preparation of reports,
etc. Why not use some of that appropriation for this purpose?
Mr. SMITH. We can not pick up men from the streets and expect
them to bring to bear on this subject the attention and ability that
is necessary, and we must have a man who is protected by the civil
Service and who enjoys the advantage of a permanent position.
Mr. GILLETT. Are all of your employees protected by the civil
service? 3.k.
Secretary REDFIELD. Not under the lump-sum appropriation.
Mr. GILLETT. Not under the lump sum ? •
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir. In an effort to determine the cause
of the recurring heavy mortality in fish at Holden, Vt., a pathologist
was employed temporarily, but, as his services were available but for
a short time, the results were negative.
The CHAIRMAN. Why couldn’t he be appointed?
Secretary REDFIELD. Under the lump-sum appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. He would want $25 per day.
The CHAIRMAN. Why couldn’t you employ a pathologist out of
that appropriation? There is nothing that limits it.
Mr. SMITH. At $25 per day that appropriation would not last long.
Secretary REDFIELD. We can not employ anyone in Washington
at all. If you would add to that item $2,500 for employees used in
Washington, it might answer the purpose. -
Mr. GILLETT. I suppose that you need the lump sum for what you
are doing from it now, and you want this extraº
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. If we had a surplus fund, we would
be glad to employ it that way; but we can not employ a first-class
scientific man to do this work under those conditions.
CIVIL ENGINEER.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for a civil engineer to be appointed by
the Secretary of Commerce at $2,000.
Mr. SMITH. During the last 20 years the number of fish-cultural
stations of the bureau has grown from 21 to over 130. Three others
have been authorized, on which construction is just beginning, and
three more stations are in course of completion. The engineering
and drafting staff remains the same, and it is impossible to keep up
with the work of planning for new establishments and extensions
and improvements at plants already in operation with the available
force. The act of Congress of June 23, 1910, requiring that the
Department of Commerce shall pass on plans for and the adequacy
of fishways also throws considerable additional work on the office
for which this employee is desired. The office now consists of the
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following employees: Architect and engineer, at $2,200; assistant
architect, at $1,600; and draftsman, at $1,200.
The CHAIRMAN. What do they do? These stations are practically
all built. * |
Mr. SMITH. There are new stations being built and old stations
may be rebuilt. New construction and repair work of all kinds is
going on at stations in all parts of the country, and this force of
three men is simply overworked. We are sometimes unable to pre-
pare plans and specifications for the work that Congress has author-
ized until after many months have elapsed. :
CI.ERK, PACIFIC COAST OFFICE.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for one additional clerk of class
1 for the Pacific coast office. *
Mr. SMITH. There is a large amount of clerical work involved in
the conduct of that office, and we desire a clerk at $1,200 who will be
, available for all of the people who may use that office, including the
fish-cultural work, the Alaska service, and other branches.
STATISTICAL AGENT.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for an additional statistical agent at
$1,200. You now have one at $1,400 and two at $1,000 each.
Mr. SMITH. That particular branch of our work has been neg-
lected, and I am hopeful that we will be able to put it, on a better
basis. That particular division and these particular men give us
the only information we have showing the condition of the fisheries
of the country. * -
The CHAIRMAN. What do the statistical agents do? -
Mr. SMITH. They go all over the country and collect information
from fishermen and from other sources, showing the number of per-
sons employed, the capital invested, the apparatus used, etc., in the
fish industry. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is that done by correspondence?
Mr. SMITH. No, sir; it is done by personal visitation. We have
only three men at this time, and when the Census Bureau takes the
census of the fisheries, as it does once in 10 years, they employ from
40 to 60 men to do this work. *
Secretary REDFIELD. There is another question involved here: The
men we have been employing at the small fees paid them have been
men with private interests, and they have had to do other work
than this in order to make their living, and the plan has not been
found to be either sound or economical. -
The Chamxas. Is the territory divided up among the statistical
agents' -
Mr. SMITH. We have not enough men to cover the whole field.
The CHAIRMAN. What do these men do?
Mr. SMITH. They visit the particular regions when they think it
desirable. The most recent statistical canvass was that of the mussel
fisheries of the Mississippi Valley, and we have recently completed
the canvass of the lobster fisheries on the whole Atlantic coast. *
The CHAIRMAN. How is that canvassing done?
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Mr. SMITH. The men go to fishing communities and see the fisher-
men, examine their books, if they have any, examine the books of the
dealers who buy the catch, examine the books of the transportation
companies, and get the most accurate information that is available.
That information as to catch is probably correct within 5 per cent.
LOCAL AGENTS, BOSTON, GLOUCESTER, AND SEATTLE.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for a local agent at Boston at $1,200,
one at Gloucester at $1,200, one at Seattle at $1,200, and two ad-
ditional ones at $1,200 each.
Mr. SMITH. We can not get men who are willing to give all of their
time to this work for the salaries now paid.
The CHAIRMAN. What do these men do? - .
Mr. SMITH. The men we now have in our service are connected with
fisheries in some other way, and make most of their living out of
some private business. The Secretary thinks that it is undesirable
to continue that sort of procedure. The agent at Boston, Mass., is
the secretary of the local fish bureau. He reports to us in great de-
tail all the fish landed at Boston by American fishing vessels, and the
fish landed at Boston and Gloucester by American vessels represents
seven-eighths of the offshore fisheries of the country. The informa-
tion that we collect at those two points gives us the only criterion
we have of the condition of the industry.
The CHAIRMAN. A man who is secretary of the local fish associa-
tion would be in a position to give the information more readily
than anybody else, would he not?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; because he gathers essentially the same in-
formation for his local association; but the information that he
obtains for them is of a confidential nature, and he reports to us in
rather more detail than his association requires. &
Secretary REDFIELD. This is put in here in order to get the sense
of Congress on this matter of principle involved as much as any-
thing else. Is it a sound policy to have men in both public and pri-
vate employment? Is it good judgment to have in Seattle the assist-
ant editor of a fishery newspaper as our agent? Is it good policy
to have as our agent that editor having a policy to carry out
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). He is just gathering statistics.
Secretary REDFIELD. Not wholly that. That is the greater part
of it, but he also becomes inevitably charged in the public mind with
a certain relationship to the Government as an official of the Gov-
ernment. As a matter of fact, people go to him and consult him as
such. The statistical work is nominally all that he has to do, but
even that might be colored by his private occupation. As a matter
of fact, he puts upon his door the sign, “Local agent of the Bureau
of Fisheries.” When I went to find our office I found it in a news-
paper office; I found it in the office of the Pacific Fisherman, and
the whole environment was not such as should surround a govern-
mental activity. The circumstances were not deemed desirable, and
it does not seem to me to be a sound policy. I personally have no
special feeling in the matter as regards the man, but I want you, as
the legislative body, to say whether that principle is a right one or a
wrong one. I doubt its wisdom.
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º CHAIRMAN. You ask for two additional local agents at $1,200
C&CI).
Mr. SMITH. We want one of them on the Atlantic coast.
The CHAIRMAN. Where?
Mr. SMITH. Preferably in New York City. We have not fully
determined that. We want the other one at some point on the south
Atlantic or Gulf coast, depending on the importance of the point.
The CHAIRMAN. What point on the south Atlantic or Gulf coast
would be important?
Mr. SMITH. New Orleans, Galveston, Pensacola, Key West,
Charleston, Norfolk, or Baltimore.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those important places?
Mr. SMITH. They are very important places. We hope in time to
cover the whole coast, just as other nations having important fish-
eries do. The Canadian Government has a fisheries inspector in
every fishery port of the whole littoral of Canada. May I show you
these tables [indicating] which represent the work we are doing at
Boston and Gloucester, and may I remark that it was because of the
absence of just such information as we are now supplying, and have
been supplying for 10 years, that led to the Halifax award of 1876,
by which the United States Government was deprived of $5,500,000
for supposed fishery privileges on the shores of the Canadian
Provinces? Those privileges were purely on paper, and such informa-
tion as we are now publishing would have demonstrated the falsity
of the claim that the Canadians made. This information is obtained
at the fishing grounds, and we are able to present in great detail
the condition of the fish supply all along this important coast.
cLERK To DEPUTY COMMISSIONER.
Secretary REDFIELD. I want to put in a later estimate appearing in
House Document No. 432 for one clerk at $1,200 for the deputy com-
missioner, and I want to ask Dr. Jones, who is here, to speak upon
that subject to the committee himself. This is an estimate for One
clerk, at $1,200, for the deputy commissioner. The estimate was not
put in with the rest because of Dr. Jones's absence in Alaska until
the month of November.
Mr. Jon Es. The immediate supervision of the direct administra-
tive work of the Bureau of Fisheries in Alaska covering the work
of protecting the Pribilof Islands fisheries, including the fur-bearing
animals, is placed under the deputy commissioner. The appro-
priations for the present fiscal year for a chief of division of the
Alaska service at a salary of $3,500 and a naturalist at $3,000 were
omitted, thereby reducing the expenses of the division by $6,500.
In addition to my regular work, which you well understand, I have
all the Alaska affairs to look after, and I am very much handicapped
by not having enough clerical force. -
The CHAIRMAN. What have you?
Mr. JoWES. I have nothing but a stenographer at $1,000, who does
not belong in my department. She is detailed there.
The CHAIRMAN. But you have the stenographer.
Mr. Jon Es. It is handicapping another division. That is what I
meant.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 585
The CHAIRMAN. It does not make any difference so long as you
have her services.
Mr. Jon Es. But she can not do the work. It has piled up greatly
On account of additional activity in fox farming and the fisheries
in Alaska, and other things that require more assistance. The work
has increased materially in the last 12 months, and still we have had
less help. -
Secretary REDFIELD. For the Alaska service, Mr. Chairman, we
shall be glad to exchange the superintendent at $3,000 for the clerk
at $1,200 that Dr. Jones has just spoken about. * -
The CHAIRMAN. There are 35 clerks in the Bureau of Fisheries.
Mr. Jon Es. They are distributed in the different divisions.
ALASKA SERVICE.
PRIBILoI, ISLANDs—suPERINTENDENT, JANITOR, STOREKEEPER.
[See p. 588.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ Alaska service: Pribilof Is-
lands.” You are asking for a superintendent at $3,000.
Secretary REDFIELD. I would be glad to have you cancel that and
give us the clerk instead. After this estimate was prepared Mr.
Jones returned from Alaska, and on his advice I would like to defer
this for this year and strike it out.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you need the position in the future?
Secretary REDFIELD. I think so. It is our intention to perfect plans
for the reorganization of the service there, and for the present that
position may be stricken out. -
The CHAIRMAN. You do not ask for the janitor service?
Secretary REDFIELD. No.
The CHAIRMAN. And you do not ask for the storekeeper ?
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Smith says the storekeeper should remain
if the superintendent is cut out. +. X-
Mr. SMITH. We are feeling our way in the administration of those
islands. We have very difficult problems on our hands, but I think
We are going to be able to master them. Conditions are better than
they ever were before, and in another year we will be in a position
to perfect the entire organization.
ALASKA SERVICE, ASSISTANT AGENTs.
The CHAIRMAN. Instead of one assistant agent at $2,000 and one
assistant agent at $1,800 you are asking for three at $2,000 each, two
at $1,800 each, one at $1,500, and one at $1,200, making seven instead
of two. What is the necessity for these assistant agents? -
Mr. Jon Es. We have 26,000 miles of coast line to patrol—from the
international boundary line west to Bering Sea—not to mention in-
land waters. We should cover approximately all of that coast line:
The Aleutian Reservation, which has never been investigated or pa-
trolled, is 1,000 miles long; we have nobody to do this work. We
have no one in western Alaska from Kodiak Island to the Aleutian
Reservation—800 miles—or in Bristol Bay, and the fishermen there
are conducting their operations in any manner in which they see fit,
and the laws which Congress has made for the Bureau of Fisheries
586 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
can not be enforced, because we have insufficient force, especially in
Western Alaska, to carry on a proper patrol service. It is absolutely
essential that we have men there to carry on our work. The codfish
industry and the halibut industry and the salmon industry are not
being looked after at all, because we need our present inadequate
force in southeastern Alaska. :
The CHAIRMAN. If you had these assistant agents how would they
manage to inspect? &
Mr. JoWES. At present, and until we can get some more vessels, we
charter boats during the height of the fishing season from the lump
appropriation. It is not at all Satisfactory, but that is the best
We can do at the present time. If we get these agents it will be a
further step in the right direction, and after they are detailed to the
central part and western part of Alaska, they will help to prevent any
violations, for to-day, with nobody there, the fishermen can carry
on their operations at Will.
The CHAIRMAN. What do the wardens do? ...sº -
Mr. Jon Es. The wardens have the fur-bearing animals to look
after and help with the fisheries also. We have 619,000 square miles
of territory for six men to patrol. -
The CHAIRMAN. Of course all of that territory is not covered?
Mr. Jon Es. It is not covered, but it most assuredly should be; be-,
cause all the territory more or less produces fur-bearing animals.
Mr. SHERLEY. You would not hope to cover it by this increase?
Secretary REDFIELD. That does not apply to it at all; this is the
shore part of the work.
Mr. SHERLEY. But you do not hope to cover the interior?
Mr. Jon Es. No ; it will help, and it is a step in the right direction.
Secretary REDFIELD. This is not for that purpose.
Mr. SHERLEY. This is for the purpose of taking care of the shore
Work?
Mr. Jon Es. This is to carry out and enforce the fishing laws in
Alaska Waters. *
Secretary REDFIELD. Mr. Jones, I wish you would tell the chair-
man about the signaling when a boat went up there.
Mr. Jon Es. At Afognak Island We have had a Warden stationed.
The only way he could get to the various fishing grounds was to ask
the cannery superintendent to loan him their boat. He got it one
day and started to go to the fishing grounds. When four or five miles
from the fishing grounds the captain ordered the pilot to blow five
long blasts. Our man said, “Captain, what is this for?” The cap-
tain said, “Well, I am sorry to say that our instructions from the
boss are to warn the fishermen if we have any United States officials
on board.” So, when he got there, the house was in order and
naturally he saw no violations of the law.
The CHAIRMAN. In addition 'to this appropriation, you have
$75,000 in the general appropriation, and then you have $14,500 for
the field service?
Secretary REDFIELD. That is the contingent fund and not for this
same work at all.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these agents and caretakers on the Pribilof
Islands?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 587
Mr. Jon Es. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The physician, too?
Mr. Jon ES. Yes, sir. w
The CHAIRMAN. The school teachers?
Mr. Jon ES. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The storekeeper?
Mr. Jon Es. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The agent, at $2,500, and the assistant agent?
Mr. Jon Es. No, sir; they are for the fisheries service. -
The CHAIRMAN. But the others are on the Pribilof Islands?
Mr. Jon Es. Yes, sir. • , .
Secretary REDFIELD. The ones above that, the new ones, would
not be.
EMI’LOYEES AT LARGE.
The CHAIRMAN. For employees at large you are asking for an
additional position to be known as field superintendent at $2,000.
What is the necessity for that? .
Mr. SMITH. We have two field superintendents now, and the work
they do is of such a character that we want to extend it. We would
like to have segregated operations in given regions placed under a
field head for economy and efficiency of administration. The man
whom we expect to fill this position, if you will provide it, will be
located on the Great Lakes.
The CHAIRMAN. On the Great Lakes?
Mr. SMITH. Yes; to superintend all of the fish-cultural activities
of the bureau there. Those activities are conducted on every one
of the Great Lakes, and the Detroit River in addition.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are these two field superintendents now
stationed?
Mr. SMITH. One of them is on the Pacific coast and the other is in
the Mississippi Valley.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you make out on the Atlantic coast?
Mr. SMITH. We will expect to get one there eventually, but these
are the most pressing fields.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you do now in lieu of them?
JMr. SMITH. The work has to be done from Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. How is that work done?
Mr. SMITH. It is not as satisfactorily supervised as if we had a
man in the field. We have actually saved more than the cost of this
position in the closer supervision we have been able to exercise over
the fish-cultural work in California, Oregon, and Washington. If
you desire I can show. by actual figures how great an economy has
been effected in purchases for the stations there.
The CHAIRMAN. How many stations would be under this man?
Mr. SMITH. On the Great Lakes we have stations on Lake Ontario,
Lake Erie, the Detroit River, Lake Huron, two auxiliary stations
on Lake Michigan, and a station at the western end of Lake Superior.
The CHAIRMAN. Seven? 4
Mr. SMITH. Altogether; yes, sir. There is also a station to the
west of Detroit, but not on the Great Lakes. It is at Northville,
Mich., and is employed for the handling of the fishes of that region;
that should also be under such a superintendent.
588 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
ALASKA SERVICE EMPLOYEES.
[See p. 585.]
, Mr. MoRDELL. I would like to go back to this item on page 587,
the item for the Alaska service. How many of these places are on
the Pribilof Islands—that is, how many of the people named in this
item are employed there?
Mr. SMITH. Down to the storekeeper, at $1,800. The agent and
assistant agents are on the mainland. ~.
... Mr. MoRDELL. Is the agent, at $2,500, in line 4, on the Pribilof
Islands?
Mr. SMITH. That is a misprint; he should not be represented as
coming under the Pribilof Islands. -
Mr. MONDELL. Should there not be something to indicate that these
employees are not on the Pribilof Islands?
Secretary REDFIELD. I think so. -
Mr. MoRDELL. The language is misleading. It would give one the
impression that these employees were all on the Pribilof Islands.
Where is the agent at $2.500 employed?
Mr. Jon Es. In the Alaskan fisheries service, not on the Pribilof
Islands; anywhere in the fisheries service, but not on the Pribilof
Islands. • .
Mr. MoRDELL. Would these additional assistant agents that you
are asking for be under him?
Mr. JoWES. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Directly?
Mr. JoWEs. Well, yes, sir; but directly under the bureau, of course.
Mr. MoRDELL. I know. Have you anything like a field superin-
tendent in Alaska.'
Mr. SMITH. Yes; the $2,500 agent is the local man of the bureau
in Alaska.
Mr. MoRDELL. He keeps his headquarters at some particular point?
Mr. SMITH. He travels throughout Alaska during the fishing sea-
son, directing the movements of the men under him.
Mr. MoRDELL. He has no headquarters, then?
Mr. SMITH. After the season is over we expect him to go to Seattle,
our branch office, which is also the headquarters of a large proportion
of the fishing interests of Alaska. *
Mr. MoRDELL. You want a man in Seattle in charge of the Pacific
coast office at $2,200, a new office, and would all of these agents be
under him? - *
Mr. SMITH. This office at Seattle will not be altogether connected
with the Alaska service, but with the fish cultural and other work
throughout the Pacific coast region. - * -
Mr. Mos DELL. But I understood you to say that the assistant in
charge of the Pacific coast, that is, the Seattle office, would be in
charge of the Alaskan business as well as the Washington and
Oregon part of your business. *
Mr. SMITH. The correspondence and purchase of supplies for
Alaska, yes; but he would not be under this salmon agent, this fish-
eries agent, at $2,500.
Mr. MoRDELL. But my question was, would the fisheries agent and
these assistant agents be under him; that is, would they correspond
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 589
with him or correspond directly with this office? If you are to
establish a Superintendency at Seattle, I assume that these people
. ty carry On their business with that superintendent—is that your
1Cl68, 9
Mr. SMITH. Their general business would undoubtedly be with the
Seattle office, but during the active fishing season, which lasts from
June to early October, these men would keep in touch with one an-
other in the field. There is no use of keeping a fishery agent in
Alaska after the fishing season is over, and the fishing season is very
ºpy defined, and it is economy to bring these men in for other
WOI’K. - *
Mr. MoRDELL. You propose to pay these agents and these assistant
agents $2,000. What are they to do during the off season—that is, at
the time they are not employed in Alaska?
Mr. Jon ES. These agents and assistant agents are always busy and
help the wardens in fur-bearing animal protection during the fall
and winter.
Mr. MONDELL. I understand that Alaska is a great country.
Mr. Jon ES. They assist in protecting the fur-bearing animals and
enforcing the laws relating to them.
Mr. MONDELL. I understood Mr. Smith to say that you did not
need these agents except during the fishing season?
Mr. SMITH. No; the agent. Do not misconstrue what I said.
Mr. MoRDELL. The $2,500 man?
Mr. SMITH. He comes to Seattle; but not these assistant agents.
Mr. MoRDELL. What does he do in Seattle?
Mr. Jon Es. He does statistical work on data, he and the assistants
have collected during the fishing season from canneries and hatch-
eries in Alaska. It is a big work, and it takes him the winter to get
it in shape.
Mr. SMITH. All the fishing companies are required by law to sub-
mit a sworn statement of their operations; not only their actual fish-
ing operations, but their fish-cultural operations at privately main-
tained hatcheries. They get a tax rebate on their output; they are
exempted from taxes in proportion to the amount of Salmon fry
they liberate.
Mr. MoRDELL. These other agents you propose to keep, and those
you now have you do keep in Alaska the year round?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Although they are not actively engaged on this
particular work except during the fishing season?
Mr. JoSEs. There is a great deal of Work to be done by these
assistant agents that has not been mentioned. It is in relation to
the halibut and codfish industry, which continues all winter long.
The salmon industry, as Dr. Smith said, has its season Well defined
and closes at about the same time every year; but there is work in
the ever-increasing operations of the codfish and halibut industries
which requires these assistant agents, in addition to assisting with
the fur-bearing animal protection.
Mr. MoRDELL. How can these men get about?
Mr. Jon Es. By commercial vessels, to Some extent.
Mr. MoRDELL. Are they not greatly handicapped in their work
because of the fact that they have to wait here for a boat and there
for a boat, and because of that fact they can not get around the coast
590 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
very well? Could you not get along with fewer men if you had a
boat or two?
Mr. Jon ES. We need all of these men, and we need the boats, too.
Mr. MoRDELL. It seems to me to be perfectly hopeless, when you
start out to find a way to economize, to say that there is a necessity
for having so many men, but if you could have a boat or two it would
help. * º
Mr. Jon ES. Is it economy to see this great fishing industry of
Alaska torn to pieces the way it is being done?
Mr. MoRDELL. No; but it seems to me that the difficulties encoun-
tered in getting about from place to place in Alaska does interfere
with the work.
Mr. Jon Es. Therefore, we would like to have a number of boats,
because we need them very much. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. You need boats more than you need men, do you
not ? &
Mr. Jon Es. No, sir; we need them both. These men we ask for do
not make an adequate working force by any means. We do not need
just 10 or 12 men, but 25 men to enforce the laws that Congress has
enacted. w
Mr. MoRDELL. They must be a lawless set up there?
Mr. Jon Es. They are to a great extent; you have named it exactly.
In my report, which will be in your hands in a few days, I have sug-
gested a system of taxation and licensing which will turn into the
Government a revenue of more than $100,000. If the fisheries in
Alaska, worth $20,000,000, are properly cared for and looked after
they are not going to be an expense to the Federal Government, but,
on the other hand, they are going to be a means of income to it. The
only proper way to do it, however, is to have vessels and men enough
to properly patrol that territory and enforce the laws.
Secretary REDFIELD. I would like to insert in the record, as having
a bearing upon the amount we ask for this service, $36,800, the fact
that we turned into the Treasury this year from the Pribilof Islands
alone $68,700. That is shown on page 24 of my report.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much do you get from this large territory?
Secretary REDFIELD. Over $20,000,000 in business.
Mr. MoRDELL. I mean in returns. -
Mr. Jon Es. The tax on canned salmon this year was over $100,000.
Secretary REDFIELD. The service more than pays its way.
Mr. Jon Es. It pays more taxes than is appropriated by Congress
for our fisheries service.
Mr. SMITH. That tax can be increased without imposing any undue
restrictions on the fishing industry. The big concerns are willing
to pay a larger tax into the Federal Treasury. r
Secretary REDFIELD. For every dollar the Government expends for
the fisheries service in Alaska it takes back $2.
Mr. Jon Es. And under my new scale we would take back about $3.
STATION EMPLOYEEs—CHANGE OF DESIGNATION OF “LABORERS ’’ To
“APPRENTICE FISFI CULTURISTs.”
The CHAIRMAN. You ask that the laborers be changed to appren-
tice messengers.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 591
Mr. SMITH. This applies also to the fish-cultural stations through-
out the country.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you suggest the change?
Mr. SMITH. This does not involve an additional dollar of expense
to the Government.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the reason for the change?
Mr. SMITH. Because the title “laborer’ is inappropriate and repels
young men whom we want to get into the service. These men have
to pass a fish-cultural examination. They are technical employees.
The examination which is held for these positions by the Civil
Service Commission is designated an examination for apprentice
fish culturists. f
Secretary REDFIELD. We simply want to put in the appropriation
the designation which the Civil Service Commission has already
given to these men. * &
STATIONS
CHANGE or DESIGNATION OF “FOREMAN ?” To “FISH
º CULTURIST.”
The CHAIRMAN. Baird, Cal., and Battle Creek, Cal., stations, in
that item you ask that the title “foreman’ be changed to that of
“fish culturist.” There is no change except in that wording?
Mr. SHERLEY. There is no change down to page 591.
Mr. SMITH. You will observe that the term “fish culturist' is used
at the other stations, and we want to change that one to accord with
the others.
CLACKAMAS (OREG.) STATION, APPRENTICE FISH CULTURISTs.
The CHAIRMAN. At the Clackamas (Oreg.) station you are asking
for two apprentice fish culturists at $720 each. How do they differ
from apprentice messengers? -
Mr. SMITH. The messengers are on the distribution cars. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for these two additional
employees?
Mr. SMITH. The great increase in the work there; we are operat-
ing 11 stations in Oregon now, whereas in 1907 we were operating
only 8. That is the central station for the Oregon work, and the
output there has increased nearly 300 per cent.
The CHAIRMAN. You are operating 11 stations now %
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; as against eight.
The CHAIRMAN. When was the increase made?
Mr. SMITH. The increase has been gradual, and we expect to in-
crease still further. As we find new places for exploitation, we go
in there without any increased special appropriation.
FAIRPORT (Iowa) STATION, CLERK.
The CHAIRMAN. At the Fairport (Iowa) biological station you are
asking for a clerk at $900. *
Secretary REDFIELD. The whole pearl-button industry in this coun-
try depends upon that station.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the need of a clerk at this time?
592 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. SMITH. The size and complex functions of the station and
the fact that its director has supervision over the scientific field
parties and mussel-cultural operations of the entire Mississippi
Valley involve the handling of many accounts and much corre-
spondence. In addition, the proper care in issuing and accounting
for property, the preparation of reports on the results of Scientific
investigations and experiments, and the keeping of records essen-
tial to the progressive work of the station demand a large amount
of clerical labor. The director should be freed from the burden of
all work of this character that he may properly supervise and direct
the work of the parties under his control and have time for the im-
provement of technical methods through his own researches. To
make it necessary for him to assume such work is to use a high grade
instrument for an inferior purpose, and the inevitable result will be
to stop the progress and improvement which can come only from
constant supervision of the technical methods and the immediate
utilization of new discoveries.
Secretary REDFIELD. And there is no clerk at that station.
Mr. SMITH, I would like to show the committee a photograph of
the plant which we have at Fairport.
Secretary REDFIELD. It is a plant which cost $150,000, and it is
without heating apparatus. !
PUGET sound (WASH.) STATION, APPRENTICE FISH CULTURISTs.
The CHAIRMAN. At the Puget Sound (Wash.) stations you are
asking for two apprentice fish culturists at $720 each.
Mr. SMITH. The conditions there are somewhat similar to what
they are in Oregon. We have an appropriation which has not yet
been expended for the establishment of new fish-cultural stations in
the Puget Sound region. Under that appropriation we have already
established three stations, and we have a balance with which to estab-
Hish another station. z'
The CHAIRMAN. What is an apprentice fish culturist? What did
you formerly call him?
Mr. SMITH. A laborer.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for these new fish culturists at $720,
whereas the others get $600?
Mr. SMITH. We hope that all the apprentice fish culturists will
be raised to $720 at some time, and if you are going to establish any
new positions we should like them to be at the rate demanded by
conditions. Cl
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of a man does this work?
Mr. SMITH. The man who takes the examination has to qualify
especially in fish culture, and we are trying to make that Service
attractive to young men just out of college. On our initiative two
of the leading universities of the country have established courses
intended to qualify graduates for our service. We want to make
these initial positions attractive to them. I may say that in the
case of the Washington fish-cultural stations the number has in-
creased from 1 in 1907 to 8 in 1914, and during that time the in-
crease in the output has been over 500 per cent.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 593
ALASIKA FISHIICRIES-OFFICERS AND CREW FOR WESSEL.
The CHAIRMAN. There is a new item, “For officers and crew of
vessel for Alaska fisheries service, $20,000.” Have you any vessel
in view 3 * Y.
Mr. SMITH. We have been making very active inquiries in regard
to that vessel, and we are about ready to recommend to the Secretary
a vessel which can be built within the appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. $50,000. It will be an oil-burning vessel rather than
a coal-burning vessel, and the crew that was estimated for it will be
smaller.
The CHAIRMAN. Smaller than what you estimate here?
Mr. SMITH. We will need 16 men, whose salaries, at the rates paid
on the coast, will amount to $17,940. - *
Secretary REDFIELD. This estimate can, therefore, be reduced to
$18,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a vessel will this be?
Mr. SMITH. We have the plans and specifications here.
Secretary REDFIELD. One hundred and twelve feet long, 22 feet
wide, drawing 10 feet of water; 196 gross tons.
The CHAIRMAN. Where built 2
Secretary REDFIELD. Built in Seattle.
The CHAIRMAN. Have the plans been prepared?
Secretary REDFIELD. These are the general plans.
The CHAIRMAN. When is it expected that the vessel will be com-
pleted? *
Mr. SMITH. Four or five months will be required for the comple-
tion of the vessel.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have to pay $2,200 to the master of a ves-
sel of that size?
Mr. SMITH. We have put in a new schedule for the crew of that
vessel. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the master’s salary?
Mr. SMITH. He gets $2,000 and pays for his own subsistence.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a statement?
Mr. SMITH, I have a statement of the proposed crew of the new
vessel.
Secretary REDFIELD. The estimate, it is understood, is reduced from
$20,000 to $18,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Fireman, minimum salary, $65 a month?
Mr. SMITH. We are asking for no fireman, because we are going
to substitute an oil burner.
(The statement submitted by Mr. Smith follows:)
Møn paying their Own SubSistence.
Master -------------------- * * * * *-* - sº- * * * *= - sº - - * *-* = ** = ** = ** = -e ºs = , =*------- $2,000
Mate-------------------- ––– 1, 500
Mate-------------------------- gº ºm: 1, 200
Chief engineer------------------------------------------------------ 1, S00
2 assistant engineers, at $1,200--------------------------------------- 2, 400
2 quartermasters, at $900–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 1, 800
4 seamen, at $780--------------------------------------------------- 3, 120
Wireless onerator--------------------------------------------------- 1, 100
727S5—15
594 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Steward - - __- $1, 200
COOk º 1, 100
Cabin boy - - - 720
16 men - 17,940
TRAVELING EXPENSES TO ATTEND CONVENTIONS, ETC.
IEXPEN SES OF ADMINISTRATION.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Expenses of administration,”
$10,000, the same as the current year. You ask to add “actual neces-
sary traveling and other expenses of officers and employees in attend-
ance on fishery conferences and meetings of technical associations
when in writing authorized by the Secretary of Commerce, not to ex-
ceed $1,000 in one fiscal year’? w
Secretary REDFIELD. It is a part of our duty to go to those con-
ferences.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the reason for this request?
Secretary REDFIELD. The reason for this request is that we are for-
bidden by a certain law to do our duty. - k
The CHAIRMAN. Oh, no; I think not.
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. No, sir; I will not agree with you. I was instru-
mental in passing that law to eliminate what had grown to be an
indefensible abuse.
Secretary REDFIELD. But in eliminating an indefensible abuse you
went so far as to prohibit us from doing our duty.
The CHAIRMAN. No, sir; it is not your duty, because there is noth-
ing in the law compelling you to do so.
Secretary REDFIELD. Very good; I differ with you in that statement.
The CIIAIRMAN. I am responsible to some extent for that law, and
I do not like to sit here and have it characterized in that Way.
Secretary REDFIELD. I dislike to disagree with you.
The CHAIRMAN. You may disagree with me, but that is my opinion.
Secretary REDFIELD. In my judgment, I think that it is our duty in
connection with the Bureau of Foreign and Domestic Commerce, for
example
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I am speaking about the Bureau of
Fisheries. .
Secretary REDFIELD. It is exactly a parallel case.
The CHAIRMAN. No; it is not. That law was enacted, and I know
that it eliminated an indefensible abuse which had grown up in
nearly every sérvice of the Government. If there is any reason why
this should be authorized in this service
Secretary REDFIELD (interposing). I have given it to you, sir.
The CHAIRMAN (continuing). Because there is no duty devolving
upon you by law § *
Secretary REDFIELD. I differ with you, sir.
Mr. SHIERLEY. There is no duty devolving upon you by law, be-
cause the law prohibits it. What reason have you why it should be
permitted ? Whether it was a duty or not, it is not now, because
the law has been changed. -
The CHAIRMAN. There was never any law which authorized this?
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir. -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 595
The CHAIRMAN. And they were spending money in a manner
which was not contemplated, and on account of the abuse growing
out of it there was a limitation placed upon their ability to do so.
Mr. SHERLEY. What reasons are there, if you care to present
them, why you think you should now be given the permission to do
What the law at present forbids?
Secretary REDFIELD. If I may speak without interruption I will
be glad to do that. Af
The CHAIRMAN. You made comments upon legislation that I am
in part responsible for. -
Secretary REDFIELD. My good friend, I can not help whether you
are responsible for it. -
The CHAIRMAN. I can not, either, but I do not propose to have
you make a statement that reflects upon my conduct.
Secretary REDFIELD. I have made no reflection, but I say the law.
prohibits our doing our duty.
The CHAIRMAN. I deny that.
Secretary REDFIELD. That is a different viewpoint which it is en-
tirely legitimate for you to hold. I consider it the duty of a public
officer to make within reasonable limitations and subject to the most
Searching examination known to the public, personally and in every
. Other practical Way, the information which the Government
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spends large sums to acquire. That being my viewpoint of our duty,
I believe it is the duty of the Commissioner of Fisheries to go to the
technical associations on subjects on which he is one of the greatest
authorities and make known to them the information that the Gov-
ernment pays him to get, to tell the people who employ him what
his services are to them, and explain to the public at conferences of
this kind what his bureau is doing. I think that is the duty of a
public servant, whether the law says it is not or does not say so, and
if the law said to me that I should not let the business men know
what the Department of Commerce is doing, I should feel, law or no
law, that it was my duty to let them know.
The CHAIRMAN. When the law says you shall not do it?
Secretary REDFIELD. I can do it at my own expense, as it is now
done. I consider it a duty. The law does not say that I shall not
do it; the law simply says that the Government shall not pay the
expenses of those who do it. I consider it a duty and I can person-
ally pay the expenses, there being no law whatever. Representa-
tives and Senators who passed this law make constant calls on us to
do this thing which they say we shall not have our expenses paid to
do, but you will look in vain in the law for anything which says that
it is not our duty. You will find that there is simply a very sweep-
ing prohibition against expenses being paid to any conference of any
nature or any kind whatever, which, I think, is a very unwise pro-
vision. Either you can trust your executive officers or you can not.
The CHAIRMAN. We could not trust them and that is why We passed
the law. §
Secretary REDFIELD. Then no word of mine is worth anything.
If the Secretary of Commerce can not be trusted
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I am not speaking about him par-
ticularly; I am speaking of the executive officers of the Government.
Secretary REDFIELD. I am speaking about the Secretary of Com-
merce, because he is mentioned here. If he is not to be trusted to
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direct this matter within reasonable limits, then he has no business
to be where he is. *
Mr. SHIERLEY. That same indictment would lie against any restric-
tion upon your activities. For instance, we provide that you shall
not spend more than a certain amount of money for clerical hire.
You say if the Secretary of Commerce can not be trusted to stand
there and meet that condition that he is not the man for the place,
but the Government is not a government of men, it is a government
of law. There was gross abuse which grew up in various depart-
ments by virtue of men being sent out at Government expense to
attend what they said were meetings of interest to the public, and
Congress in its wisdom changed that. I do not see how that is a
matter to censure Congress for; that is a matter of judgment.
Secretary REDFIELD. I do not censure them.
BOOTEIBAY HARBOR, ME., CONSTRUCTION OF VESSEL.
As to the vessel proposed on page 617, I personally examined
the vessel at Boothbay Harbor, Me., and I can only repeat what I
have said two successive years—that the vessel is unsafe for use in
the waters and for the use for which she is obliged to serve. I ate a
meal on board that ship once with my plate on a bunk, because there'
was no table on which I could put it. It is, perhaps, too much to
say that she is held together by a coat of paint, but it gives not an
inaccurate idea of the vessel. She has long since ceased her useful-
ness, and if it were not for the extraordinary skill of the captain
that vessel woud be at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
Mr. MoRDELL. What work does that vessel perform 2
Mr. SMITH. She patrols the entire coast of Maine at all seasons of
the year in the collection of egg-bearing lobsters, which, under the
State law, the fishermen are allowed to take, provided we take them
off their hands, and which otherwise would be taken in violation of
the law, and also collects cod, haddock, and flounder eggs. It is a
very rough coast and the Work is done throughout the year.
Mr. MoRDELL. That requipes a fairly good-sized boat and a
staunch one? *
Secretary REDFIELD. I speak from intimate personal knowledge.
I have navigated my own boat in those waters for the past 12 years.
This vessel is unsafe for use and some day it will go to the bottom
with her crew aboard and it will not be the fault of the department.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1915.
PROPAGATION OF FOOD FISHEs.
The CHAIRMAN. Propagation of food fishes, the appropriation is
$350,000, and you are asking $375,000. What is the reason for this
increase? *
Mr. SMITH, Increased activities due in part to a larger number of
stations to operate; due primarily to that situation.
The CHAIRMAN. We are going to be $100,000,000 short in our rev-
enues: Why are you going to increase your activities $25,000 more?
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Mr. SMITH. During the next fiscal year we will be operating from
four to six stations not now operated.
The CHAIRMAN. What are those stations?
Mr. SMITH. The stations recently established by Congress which
will be in working operation during the next fiscal year are at
Saratoga, Wyo.; Orangeburg, S. C.; Kentucky, Rhode Island, and
Utah.
The CHAIRMAN. The Kentucky station is in operation now %
Mr. SMITH. The station is not fully completed.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand that, but it is in operation?
Mr. SMITH. We are spending very little on it, because it is not
ready. There are also additional stations in Puget Sound, which we
established out of special appropriations a number of years ago. We
are not asking for any additional personnel for those stations, but we
do need money to operate them.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by “operation ”? We equip
every one of them with an operating force. -
Mr. SMITH. Not a regular personnel for those stations in Puget
Sound. They are auxiliaries. -
The CHAIRMAN. We provide an operating force. Is that at
Clackamas? : - ---
Mr. SMITH. No, sir; Congress passed an appropriation of $50,000
Some years ago to establish two or more stations in Puget Sound.
We have established three stations and are preparing to establish on
or two more out of that appropriation. -
The CHAIRMAN. Out of an appropriation of $50,000 you estab-
lished how many stations?
Mr. SMITH. We have established three and are preparing to estab-
lish one or two more.
The CHAIRMAN. How is it that it costs $50,000 or $60,000 to estab-
lish one station at other places? -
Mr. SMITH. These stations are of a special nature, intended only
for salmon culture and have a skeleton personnel. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. When was that appropriation made?
Mr. SMITH. Four or five years ago.
The CHAIRMAN. Why has it been so long before these stations have
been established 3 *
Mr. SMITH. Because we do not want to spend the money until we
can select the best places for these auxiliary stations. -
The CHAIRMAN. This is no time to be spending money for any
purpose.
VESSELS, MAINTENANCE OF.
Maintenance of vessels, the appropriation is $60,000, and you are
asking for $80,000. What is the necessity for this increase?
Mr. SMITH. One of the items to be included in this additional
appropriation is the maintenance of a new vessel for Alaska. All of
the vessels and many of the launches that we have are old and require
more and more money each year to keep them in repair.
The CHAIRMAN. What vessels have you? How much of this is for.
new vessels and how much additional for the old vessels?
Mr. SMITH. We shall need at least five or six thousand dollars for
the maintenance of the new vessel in Alaska.
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The CHAIRMAN. Is there any accurate estimate at all for that?
Mr. SMITH. We have been working on it and that is the prelimi-
nary estimate of the cost of operating it on short time.
The CHAIRMAN. You say five or six thousand dollars and that is a
difference of 20 per cent in the extremes. We want some detailed in-
formation about these things.
Mr. SMITH. It will depend altogether on the amount of cruising
the vessel is required to perform. That obviously can not be fore-
told. -
The CHAIRMAN. You will have to tell us what you expect to do
and how much it will cost.
Mr. SMITH. Based on six months’ active cruising, the amount re-
quired for the maintenance of a vessel of the size in question will
not be less than $6,000, and will more likely be $8,000. The necessity
for an increased vessel appropriation is real.
Four years ago this appropriation was increased $2,000 from
$58,000, but it has since remained stationary, notwithstanding the
very material growth of the bureau’s general operations and also the
increased requirements by reason of the aging of practically the
entire floating equipment.
During the current year, in consideration of its recognized inade-
quacy, the appropriation has been administered with even more than
usual economy, not to say parsimony, but after providing for the
necessary requirements of stations and field parties, and for the bare
maintenance of the Albatross, Fish Hawk, Grampus, and other ves-
sels, on the basis of lying to dock after about the middle of Septem-
ber, there remains available but $4,400.
INQUIRY RESPECTING FOOD FISHES.
Inquiry respecting food fishes: “For inquiry into the causes of
the decrease of food fishes in the waters of the United States, investi-
gations and experiments in respect to the aquatic animals, plants,
and waters, in the interest of fish culture and the fishery industries,
etc.” The appropriation is $45,000, and your estimate is $45,000.
You are asking us to provide for an oyster survey in Texas instead
of Florida. Is the Florida survey finished?
Mr. SMITH. No, sir; it is in progress now. -
The CHAIRMAN. Will any work be done on that next year?
Mr. SMITH. It will be finished during the present fiscal year.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this Texas survey authorized?
Mr. SMITH. "We have been requested by the Texas Congressmen—
The CIIAIRMAN (interposing). Is it authorized?
Mr. SMITH. There has been no law passed directing it.
The CHAIRMAN. You want to spend $5,000 on that work next year?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. There was not any special law authorizing the in-
vestigation in any State, was there?'
The CHAIRMAN. I think so.
Mr. SMITH. There was a joint resolution which passed the Senate,
but which did not pass the House; in lieu thereof the item was in-
cluded in the appropriation bill.
The CHAIRMAN. It was reported to the House and we put it in
the bill. How does this request come from Texas?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 599.
Mr. SMITH. Through the governor of Texas, the oyster commis-
sioner of Texas, and the Members of the Texas delegation in
Congress. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Have they any oyster industry there at all?
Mr. SMITH. There is a small oyster industry which can doubtless
be developed if proper methods are followed.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it as extensive as the Florida industry?
Mr. SMITH. Probably not.
The CITAIRMAN. What do they market down there, if anything,
in the way of oysters? w
Mr. SMITH. There are numbers of bays along the Texas coast,
some of which are probably too salty or otherwise unfit for success-
ful oyster growing, while others located near or at the mouths of
rivers are probably susceptible of great development as oyster plant-
ing grounds. The State has not the material in the way of men
and apparatus for showing what can be done, and we are called
on now, as we have been in the past, to survey portions of the Texas
coast with a view to the development of this industry, and it seems
like a legitimate work for the Federal Government, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. When was the request first made?
Mr. SMITH. We have been receiving them almost annually since
the last work was done there about five or six years ago. We made
a survey of Matagorda Bay and published a report thereon, and this
is an extension of that work.
The CIIAIRMAN. When was that done? I never heard of it.
Mr. SMITH, I am not sure that we had any special appropriation
for it, Mr. Chairman. -
The CIIAIRMAN. How did you do it?
Mr. SMITH. Out of our regular appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Then why do you not do this work out of your
regular appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. That is what we wish to do. We are not asking for
any increase. …- -
The CHAIRMAN. The $5,0000 appropriation was to enable you to do
a special work in Florida, and that work being finished that amount
is no longer needed.
STATISTICAL INQUIRY.
“Statistcal inquiry: For collection and compilation of statistics
of the fisheries and the study of their methods and relations.” etc.,
$7,500. -
Mr. SMITH. There is no change in that.
The CHAIRMAN. What is this appropriation used for "
Mr. SMITII. For the expenses of the men whom we send into the
field and who obtain their information directly from the fishermen.
The CHAIRMAN. This is the subsistence and travel fund for these
agents? -
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; and miscellaneous expenses connected with
their work. -
The CHAIRMAN. Are any personal services paid out of this appro-
priation? }
Mr. SMITH. Occasionally we have employed professional fisher-
men for short periods in order to demonstrate the resources of
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new grounds; but, in general, you may say there are no personal
Services paid out of it. |
The CHAIRMAN. $2,000 a year for personal services is paid out
of it. . . -
Mr. SMITH. That was a special investigation.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the estimate for next year.
Mr. SMITH. We have now in the field a man whose compensation
is paid out of this appropriation. He is endeavoring to make known
to certain localities in the Southern States the latent fishery re-
Sources that are available to those communities. They are importing
Salt herring from the North Sea and salmon from Alaska and sar-
dines from France, whereas right off the shores of those States there
are very valuable resources. The fishermen, however, are not will-
ing to catch them because there is no inland market, and the people
in the interior are not aware of their existence. We have a man
there who is making practical demonstrations in the States on the
Gulf of Mexico directed to the very valuable food fish now going to
Waste on those shores. - . -
SPONGE FISHERIES, PROTECTION OF.
The CHAIRMAN. Sponge fisheries: For expenses in protecting the
sponge fisheries, including employment of inspectors, Watchmen, etc.,
and all other expenses necessary to carry out the provisions of the
act of August 15, 1914. You are asking $2,500. That is the last
act that was passed ? º - - -
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; we are asking for a decrease of $1,000 there
to carry out that law. º
The CHAIRMAN. This is to regulate the Sponge fisheries in Florida. ?
Mr. SMITH. All the sponge fishing is in Florida or off the coast
of Florida.
The CHAIRMAN. Will $2,500 be the annual charge?
Mr. SMITH. It is possible that that may be reduced later, but that
is the amount we will need for the next fiscal year. That industry
is worth $600,000 or $800,000, and the State of Florida is unable to
cope with the situation that has been created by the advent of 1,200
to 1,800 Greeks, in whose hands the industry now is.
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ALASKA, GENERAL SERVICE, SUPPLIES, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. Alaska, general Service: For protecting the Seal
fisheries of Alaska, etc., you are asking $75,000 as against $60,000.
We were promised that if we appropriated the $50,000 in the defi-
ciency act of 1914 and gave you a chance to get started on that Work,
it would cost $60,000 annually thereafter. Now, the first chance you
get after that, you jump the appropriation 25 per cent. -
Mr. JoHANNEs. Mr. Chairman, I do not think that Was quite the
understanding. - *…
The CHAIRMAN. That was the personal assurance of the Secretary.
Mr. Jori ANNEs. But there was only $40,000 of that $50,000 to
come out of that amount. It really amounts to an increase of
$5,000 that we are asking for.
The CHAIRMAN. We were assured positively and definitely that the
result would be that thereafter you could get along with $60,000.
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Mr. Jon Es. Mr. Chairman, I spent considerable time on the Pri-
bilof Islands this year and found the buildings and outbuildings in
a deplorable condition. It is a question whether those natives will
have suitable places to live in or whether they shall put up with
all sorts of inconveniences. The houses are too small. They live
six and eight in a room without any ventilation. Their Outhouses
are disgraceful and it is absolutely necessary that all those out-
houses be torn down, what there is left of them, and rebuilt.
These outhouses, or a large portion of them, should be torn down
and some of them burned. Part of the money asked for is very in-
adequate to properly repair the Government houses as well and the
native houses.
The CHAIRMAN. I expected a change like this to be made in the
statement this year.
Mr. JoHANNEs. Mr. Chairman, I thought that the understanding
was that if you would anticipate the appropriation $40,000 for sup-
plies for native inhabitants, we would not ask for that this year.
. The CHAIRMAN. The understanding was that you would not ask
for more than $60,000 thereafter.
Mr. JoEIANNEs. We had $75,000 in 1914 and we simply wanted to
get the $50,000 in order to send that boat up and buy the supplies.
The CHAIRMAN. And thereafter we were going to make a straight
Saving, and the first year after that the appropriation is increased.
Mr. Jon ANNEs. As I understand it, the appropriation has only
gone up $5,000.
The CHAIRMAN. I remember that distinctly, because I was particu-
larly interested in seeing how it would work out. What is paid out
of this appropriation? - - -
Mr. SMITH. All the expenses connected with the Alaskan service.
The CHAIRMAN. Not all the expenses, because there are two other
appropriations. t
Mr. SMITH. The expenses in connection with the fur seal, the
. Salmon, and the fur-bearing animals. - - - - -
The CHAIRMAN. You want to include fur-bearing animals in this
item' & ***
Mr. JoHANNEs. Mr. Chairman, may I make a statement? We pay
about $40,000 a year for supplies for native inhabitants. That in-
cludes everything those people eat and Wear and their medicines
and other things they have to have. They can not buy a thing except
what we supply them. It costs us about $10,000 a year to get those
things up there and that leaves us $10,000 a year, if you only ap-
bropriate $60,000, for traveling expenses of Government employees
who have to go up there, for subsistence of Government employees
who are up there, and for the expenses of the fur wardens on the
mainland of Alaska and the fishery agents in Alaska. -
The CHAIRMAN. In your detailed statement for 1916 the cost of
supplies is $12,000 more than you expended in 1914. Why is that?
Mr. SMITH. We have had frantic telegrams from the islands this
year about the shortage of Supplies, and that was brought about by
the fact that in the last fiscal year a lot of things were brought over
from the previous year and did not have to be purchased. They have
now been exhausted. * - -
The CHAIRMAN. But you would not want to increase the amount
of supplies by 50 per cent, because that is what it means when you
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increase it from $23,000 to $35,000. Is there any such shortage of
supplies as that up there? •.
Mr. SMITH. The supplies which we bought for the islands this
year cost $40,000.
Mr. Jon Es. Mr. Chairman, if you will look back to 1914 you will
see that $75,000 was appropriated; $50,000 of that is about the
amount needed for the supplies for the Pribilof Islands. Since
then that amount has been reduced. They have not only had to take
any surplus supplies properly kept on hand for emergencies, but it
has necessitated drawing ahead, so to speak.
The CHAIRMAN. That was reduced because of the fact that the cost
of the vessel was so much reduced and not on account of supplies.
Mr. Jon Es. Mr. Chairman, I can explain that. The weather at
the islands this year was partly responsible for 23 days being taken
to unload. There is no way of unloading a steamer there except to
anchor practically in the sea, and the only method we have of taking
the supplies to land is in a bidarka—a skin boat—which can not be
handled in rough weather. The vessel cost $250 a day for 23 days.
It is the only possible method we can use in unloading those sup-
plies under the present system. In my report I recommend a change
in that method. º -
Mr. GILLETT. What is a bidarrah!
Mr. Jon Es. It is a boat made out of sea-lion skins.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean that that boat costs $250 a day ?
Mr. Jon Es. No, sir; the supply ship. They charge $250 a day
whether they are unloading or not, and there were a number of days
she had to pull out in the sea and wait for the weather to moderate.
Two hundred and fifty times twenty-three makes a considerable hole
in our appropriation. That was not for transporting supplies, but
was merely for the time the vessel was at the islands. It is a very
bad system. - - -
Mr. GILLETT. Ordinarily how many days would you expect it to
take to unload that ship' *
Mr. Jon Es. If we had lighters? --
Mr. GILLETT. I mean under this system if the weather had been
ood. -
g Mr. Jon Es. In 12 or 15 days; maybe in less time.
Mr. SMITH. The vessel which we were obliged to take to carry the
supplies to the seal islands this year cost $18,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. How about the vessel we are building? . *
Mr. SMITH. That vessel will have a storage capacity of a number
of hundreds of tons, and it is the expectation that hereafter she will
be able to carry some of the supplies to the islands; not all that are
required at one time, but by making several trips.
The CHAIRMAN. She will be finished by the 1st of July 2.
Mr. SMITII. She will not be ready for the earliest trip necessary
this year. -
The CHAIRMAN. Yesterday you said it would take about four
months to build it. It ought to be ready the 1st of July.
Mr. Jon Es. We will need supplies there before then, Mr. Chair-
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The CHAIRMAN. When do they go up?
Mr. Jon Es. They usually go up the last of June or the 1st of July.
The CIFAIRMAN. That is what T say. This vessel ought to be ready
by that time.
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Mr. Jon Es. But they are short of supplies now.
The CHAIRMAN. How can they be short of supplies?
Mr. SMITEI. They have consumed the supplies provided.
The CHAIRMAN. Then there is something wrong about your man-
ºnent of the whole thing. We gave you all the money you asked
OI’.
Mr. Jon Es. The figures show—
The CHAIRMAN (Interposing). The figures show that you got all
the money that was asked upon the positive and definite statement
that if we would appropriate $50,000 at a certain time, $60,000 there-
after would be ample. What supplies are you short of? What sup-
plies have you bought? How do you use them?
Mr. SMITEI. The emergency supplies required, that will have to .
go up on the first steamer we can obtain, are foods for the most part
and some clothing.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are you going to get the money for those
supplies?
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Mr. SMITH. We have a balance of $25,000 or $26,000.
The CHAIRMAN. That has nothing to do with this item, then?
Mr. SHERLEY. Mr. Jones suggests that in a few minutes he can
have available the figures showing what the supplies cost.
The CHAIRMAN. The supplies you are talking about are not to be
purchased out of this appropriation at all, but out of an appropria-
tion already made.
Mr. SMITH. Yes; for the current year.
The CHAIRMAN. Then any shortage of supplies has nothing to do
with this situation.
Mr. SMITH. But our experience this year has shown We will need
this amount of money for next year.
The CHAIRMAN. You have $23,000 unexpended out of an appro-
priation of $60,000, and yet you are talking about being short in
your Supplies.
You ask us to include in this item the Words ‘
‘and fur-bearing
animals,” so as to provide out of this appropriation for the protec-
tion of fur-bearing animals. Why is this inserted here? -
Mr. SMITH, I think it was omitted out of the last act through
inadvertence. e }
The CHAIRMAN. Oh, no; it was never put in.
Mr. JoBANNEs. Mr. Chairman, you will recall that last year we
had to come to you and ask a change which was made in the defi-
ciency act approved October 22, 1913, and which enlarged the statute
reference in the sundry civil appropriation act. There was an error
made. Now, we just put in here language to include the fur-bearing
animals of Alaska so as to avoid any question as to the inclusive-
ness of this appropriation. Under this appropriation We take care
of the Pribilof Islands and fisheries in Alaska and the fur-bearing
animals in Alaska. f
The CHAIRMAN. What do you do about the fur-bearing animals
now under this language? &
Mr. JoHANNEs. We pay the traveling expenses of the fur wardens
in Alaska out of this appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Has any question been raised about paying those
wardens out of this appropriation ? 6
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Mr. JoHANNES. No, sir; not after you fixed it in the deficiency act
last year. You changed the wording of the law then.
The CHAIRMAN. And put this language in 2
Mr. SMITH. This language was in originally, but in the act of
last year the statute cited was the act giving effect to the seal treaty
between the United States, Great Britain, Japan, and Russia, which
had nothing to do with the fur-bearing animals on the mainland of
Alaska. .
The CHAIRMAN. What deficiency act was that? Was that in a
bill that passed this year?
Mr. JoHANNES. I think not; it was last year, as I remember it.
The wording was something like this—that the appropriation for
the fur-seal service in Alaska was also to be available for the pay-
ment of the expenses of protecting fur-bearing animals in Alaska.
That is the recollection I have of it.
Mr. SMITH. The sundry-civil act for the current year contains no
reference to the fur-bearing animals of Alaska, and that deficiency
was supplied in the supplementary act, so that this money could
be used for enforcing the laws pertaining to fur-bearing animals.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you some information in regard to that,
Mr. Jones? - *
Mr. Jon Es. In 1912 the cost of supplies for the Pribilof Islands,
including the vessel to carry them, was $82,749; in 1913, the sup-
plies, including the vessel, cost $52,700; in 1914 the cost was $58,775,
including the vessel. Where the trouble lies is the fact that the
appropriation and money spent in 1913 was entirely inadequate. It
not only drained every bit of the surplus from the previous year
on the island but it made a shortage for the following year and for
this year. *
The CHAIRMAN. I do not understand that.
Mr. Jon Es. In 1912 it was $62,750, or that was the amount spent
for supplies—that is, exclusive of the vessel—and that left a surplus
on the island for use in case of emergency. The following year it
was reduced almost by 50 per cent, or to $32,000. That necessitated
the using of the surplus on the island, and even then we did not
have enough to carry them through the fiscal year 1913.
The CHAIRMAN. What did they do? You say you did not have
enough to carry them through.
Mr. JoWEs. I can not answer you offhand. They did not have
enough supplies, because we had a great deal of trouble.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you spend in 1914?
Mr. Jon Es. In 1914, $40,775. -
The CHAIRMAN. Didn’t that give you enough 3
Mr. Jon Es. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why not? *
Mr. Jon Es. It requires not less than $50,000 to supply the two
islands with rations and supplies, exclusive of vessel. - -
The CHAIRMAN. How many people are on them?
Mr. Jon ES. There are Over 300.
Mr. SMITH. There are natives and white attendants.
|Mr. Jo NES. There are abott 315 all told.
Mr. SMITH. Permit me to say, Mr. Chairman, that this estimate is
contingent on the increase traveling and subsistence expense that will
be involved if you give us the additional agents.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 605.
The CHAIRMAN. How much was included for that?
Mr. Jon Es. About $6,000. It is based on 12 months.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the character of the supplies furnished?
Mr. Jon Es. The principal supplies are salted meat in barrels, some
fish. They have very little fish there. Includes about 700 tons of
coal. There is no coal or other fuel on either island. It also in-
cludes dress goods, underwear, shoes, all of their groceries, sugar,
and flour. Then lumber has been sent up at various times, together
with nails, hay, and grain for the horses.
The CHAIRMAN. They partly subsist themselves, do they not?
Mr. Jon Es. Do you mean by seal meat'
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. -
Mr. JoWES. That is a part of their subsistence.
Mr. SMITH. Under the close-time law that now affects the killing
of Seals on the island, the amount of Seal meat is not always adequate.
The CHAIRMAN. But they subsist themselves partly 7
Mr. SMITH. Partly from the seals; yes, sir.
Mr. Jon Es. There is very little meat on a seal. There are com-
paratively few pounds of meat, because there is so much blubber.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they have any other food besides seals and
fish Ż ..
Mr. SMITH. There is very little fish around the islands. They
get Some birds eggs, but only for a short time.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you propose to spend for supplies
next year?
Mr. Jon Es. Fifty thousand dollars is absolutely needed.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you spend last year?
Mr. Jon Es. Forty thousand dollars.
The CHAIRMAN. Where did you get the $23,000?
Mr. SMITH. That is in the unexpended balance.
The CHAIRMAN. The unexpended balance of the $60,000?
Mr. JoHANNEs. The proposition was this, Mr. Chairman; we
promised that if you would give us this deficiency appropriation we
would buy the supplies for next year out of this year's appropriation,
because we had to get them started and purchased by the first of
July. As regards the balance, I know nothing about that, but that
was the understanding we had with you.
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you all you asked.
Mr. SMITH. You gave us a $50,000 appropriation as an emergency
in order to place this appropriation on a fiscal-year basis, as it had
never been before, and we have done that. We will make the present
appropriation supply the present year's demands.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you actually expended for Sup-
plies this year? &
Mr. Jon Es. This next fiscal year
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). No, the present fiscal year.
Mr. Jon Es. $40,775, and more is urgently needed.
The CHAIRMAN. Where did you get the $23,000 balance. .
Mr. Jon Es. Where has which $23,000 gone?
The CHAIRMAN. No; where does it come from? You had $60,000,
expended $40,000, and have $23,000 left.
Mr. JoHANNEs. They had $110,000 for this fiscal year, practically.
They had $60,000 appropriation and $50,000 deficiency.
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The CHAIRMAN. What has happened to the other?
Mr. Jon Es. We have $25,000 or $26,000 of it. º
The CHAIRMAN. You have it?
Mr. JoWES. Yes, sir; that is the balance we have.
PAYMENTS TO GREAT BRITAIN AND JAPAN.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For payments to be made to .
Great Britain and Japan under the terms of article 11 of the con-
vention for protection and preservation of the fur seal and Sea
otters in lieu of their share of sealskins for the yearly seasons of
1915, and in accordance with the act of August 24, 1912, to give effect
to the above named convention.” The current appropriation is
$20,000, and the estimate is $20,000. When is this payable?
Mr. SMITH. This is payable during the next fiscal year, in the
event of not resuming the commercial killing of seals on the seal
islands. -
The CHAIRMAN. When is it payable? - g -
Mr. JoHANNES. December 15 is the date of payment. The State
Department fixed that date.
The CHAIRMAN. How long does that run—do you remember?
Mr. SMITH. That runs until the commercial killing of seals is re-
sumed. The closed time covers five years, beginning in 1912.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be the fourth payment?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir. d
INSPECTION OF DAMS AND FISHWAYS.
The CHAIRMAN. For the inspection of dams and dam sites on navi-
gable waters, with a view of prescribing fishways therefor, you ask
$5,000. g
Mr. SMITH, I am free to say, Mr. Chairman, that that is only an
estimate. What we wish primarily is authority from Congress to
undertake this work. We have never adequately performed the
duties pertaining to this particular line, and it may be that this ap-
propriation is more than we can legitimately expend. We are will-
ing to accept any sum, simply to have the work authorized by Con-
gress.
Mr. SHERLEY. Have you, any report now showing the facts touch-
ing fishways in dams?
Mr. SMITH. We have no reports, except that we get numerous re-
quests from the War Department, from States, and from the owners
of private dams and fishways to inspect them in order to determine,
first, whether the dams need fishways, and, Second, whether the fish-
ways in dams are adequate.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you now pass on plans of dams for fishways?
Mr. SMITH. We attempt to do so, Mr. Chairman, but it is obvi-
ously impossible to do so with any degree of satisfaction, unless we
can send a man to a dam and have him examine the physical condi-
tions. Everything depends on the nature of the dam, the depth of
the water, the currents, and other things. To sit in our office and
attempt to pass on the adequacy of a fishway in a dam in a remote
part of the country is absurd. We are asking for a small appro-
priation to enable us to send men into the field in response to these
requests.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 607
The CHAIRMAN. Do the plans of the dams and the other data fur-
mished give you all the information necessary?
Mr. SMITH. There are a dozen forms of fishways adapted to dif-
ferent constructions of dams and different physical conditions sur-
rounding the dams, and the plans of dams and proposed fishways do
not show the physical conditions existing about them.
DULUTFI (MINN.) STATION, BUILDINGS AND WATER SUPPLY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fish-cultural station, Duluth,
Minn. : For construction of buildings and improvement of Water
supply, to be available until expended, $6,400.”
Mr. SMITH. We have been asking for that for several years, partly
on account of the objections being made by the city of Duluth to the
unsightly wooden flume that is now running through a public park.
Since we went in there many years ago the city has grown out to the
station, and we are now maintaining an eyesore.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the objectionable feature?
Mr. SMITH. An exposed wooden flume running from the source of
Our Water supply across a park into the hatchery. I have not seen
it myself, but I know it is decidedly objectionable to the people of
that city. That is a rather important station, intended to maintain
the supply of whitefish and lake trout on Lake Superior and the ad-
jacent Smaller lakes in Minnesota and Wisconsin, and we have spent
nothing on it for Some time in the way of special appropriations.
FAIRPORT (IOWA) STATION, HEATING AND LIGHTING PLANT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Biological station, Fairport,
Iowa : For installation of central heating and lighting plants, to be
available until expended, $7,500.”
Mr. SMITH. May I make a statement regarding that? This sta-
tion is large and important, and it is located in a region of Severe
Winter Weather. The various buildings can not be either economi-
cally or adequately heated by Stoves, as the main building is approxi-
mately the size of the office building of the bureau in this city, and
there are various shops, hatchery, etc., which also require heat.
Unless the buildings are reasonably warmed, not only is the Work
of the employees interfered with, but there is danger of freezing and
bursting the pipes of the complex Water system necessary to th
operation of the station. •,
The pumping plant now discharges a volume of exhaust steam
which competent heating engineers state to be sufficient to heat the
building, and by the construction of an underground pipe line this
heat now going into the air can be utilized, thus saving not only the
cost of fuel but the labor required to care for detached heating
appliances.
Neither gas nor electric light is commercially available at Fair-
port, and the buildings are lighted by kerosene lamps. These are
unsatisfactory and it need hardly be stated should never be employed
in public buildings of the character of those at Fairport. An elec-
tric-light plant installed at the station would be operated without
additional expense, except for fuel, by the employees in charge of
the pumping plant.
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The CHAIRMAN. How much did those buildings cost?
Mr. SMITH. The appropriations for this station have aggregated
about $120,000.
Mr. SHERLEY. How old a station is it?
Mr. SMITH. It was established in 1909.
Mr. SHERIFY. It was built on plans approved by the Bureau of
Fisheries? -
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. And it is less than five years old?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir,
Mr. SHERLEY. And now we are told that after having been built
within five years it was so badly built that no heating system was
supplied for it. How can you explain that sort of situation?
Mr. SMITH. With the appropriation available we have gone ahead
as far as possible and have wired some of the buildings. We have
made plans for heating the laboratory buildings from a central
plant.
Mr. SHERLEY. But the heating was not supplied. It is not only
an oversight, but it is a flagrant piece of incompetency, is it not?
Would you not say that an architect who built a private house for
you and made no provision for the adequate heating of it, showed
himself to be flagrantly incompetent? r
Mr. SMITH. Most of the buildings are heated now, but we are
recommending the installation of this plant for the laboratory in
order to save money and to utilize a resource that would otherwise
be wasted.
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand you will, but you are doing that for a
building five years after it was built—for a building that was so
inadequately planned, touching one of the fundamentals of a build-
ing, that you are now forced to come in and ask for an entirely dif-
ferent arrangement as to heating. I submit that that is a case of
flagrant incompetency on the part of Somebody, and, in view of the
criticism passed on this committee, perhaps it might be in order to
suggest that if this matter had been well looked after at the time the
building was "constructed there would have been a saving to the
Government. 3.
Mr. SMITH. The construction of this station has been an evolu-
tion. We did not obtain at the outset the money necessary for its
completion. The laboratory building is still incomplete.
Mr. SHERLEY. Evidently it has not been a scientific evolution, to
say the least.
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Louisvr1.J.E. (KY.) STATION, ADDITION TO.
[See p. 616.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fish hatchery, Louisville, Ky. :
For addition to the Louisville, Ky., fisheries station, including the
construction of buildings and ponds and for equipment, to be im-
mediately available and to remain available until expended, $30,000.”
What have you already had there? What was the appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. $25,000 was the original appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. What was done with that?
Mr. SMITH. There has been a full statement presented to Congress
of the expenditures under that appropriation.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 609
The CHAIRMAN. Put it in the record. -
Mr. SMITH. This statement has been submitted annually. This is
the statement for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914. The unex-
pended balance at that time was $5,665. That was the unexpended
balance at the time of the submission of the last report of expendi-
tures.
The CHAIRMAN. When was that dated?
Mr. SMITH. December 2, 1913.
The CHAIRMAN. That is over aoyear ago.
Mr. SMITH. That was the unexpended balance on December 2,
1913.
The CHAIRMAN. When was this report made?
Mr. SMITH. This is December, 1914.
Mr. SHERLEY. Have you a statement showing where the $25,000
went 3
Mr. SMITH. For preliminary expenses, including selection of site,
surveys, etc., $812: buildings, superintendent’s residence, $6,320;
pump houses, $2,841: Workshop, $926; outbuildings, $1,236; grounds,
roads, and walks, $423; tools, appliances, furniture, and office ex- .
penses, $632; horses and vehicles, $837; stores and supplies, $118;
the water supply cost $8,774, including wells, tank, tower, pumps,
motors, and piping. The detailed figures for these items are shown.
The drainage system has cost $1,138, and ponds $1,790. There have
been constructed six cement ponds and four other ponds. The mis-
cellaneous expenses were $180, making the total amount expended
$24,422, leaving an unexpended balance of $578.
The CHAIRMAN. The land was donated?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. And you have the superintendent’s residence, 10
ponds, a Water supply, drainage, and a pump house. What do you
do with them? - *- -
Mr. SMITH. That station as it stands provides for outside work
connected with pond culture. It is proposed that this shall be a
combination station, and we propose a hatchery building at which
fish not adapted for pond culture will be handled. We therefore
ask for a hatchery and various other structures needed to make an
up-to-date station.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for a hatchery building at $6,000.
What is the character of that building? -
Mr. SMITH. A large frame structure, preferably of one story, with
office rooms in the ends.
Mr. SHERLEY. Yo do not mean that do you? Is it not contem-
plated to build a brick structure?
Mr. SMITH, I did not know that it was—not for $6,000.
Mr. SHERLEY. Not perhaps in the sense of having it all brick, but
it is contemplated to have it in harmony with the other buildings
that are there, which, as I recall, are on brick or stone foundations.
with pebble superstructures. -
Mr. SMITH. The superintendent’s residence, now erected, is frame.
Mr. SHERLEy. I understand that it is, but the plans submitted at
one time and which I saw contemplated a hatchery that would be in
keeping with the pump house that is now built, and which was, I
think, on a stone or brick foundation with a pebble superstructure.
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610 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
It is not an expensive building at all, but it is not a frame one.
Your design certainly shows that, because the plans were all put
together at one time.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you say that an office was to be in this
building?
Mr. SMITH. We have found by experience that an office is de-
sirable. It is desirable to have office room in the hatchery building.
There is a great deal of clerical work to be done.
The CHAIRMAN. And you are asking for another appropriation
for a house and offices.
Mr. SHERLEy. I did not know that that was to be an office in the
hatchery building. As I recollect it, the hatchery building is a low
building, and it is simply to take care of the actual apparatus re-
quired for hatching fish. The office that is contemplated is in the
pump house.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Smith says the office is to be in the hatchery.
Mr. SHERLEY. I think he is mistaken, unless they have changed the
plans since I Saw them.
The CHAIRMAN. They may have changed them.
Mr. SMITH. An, office in the hatchery building or any other build-
ing does not affect the cost one iota.
The CHAIRMAN. It might? -
Mr. SMITH. Nearly every hatchery We have contains a room or two
rooms where clerical work in connection with the hatchery can be
done.
Mr. SHERLEY. I think that is true. It is contemplated here by the
very statement to be a part of the pump house and not a part of the
hatchery. The hatchery is to be a low building, simply to house the
actual hatchery. At present they have not any hatchery there ex-
cept the tent that they borrowed from the State agricultural people
and also at the expense of the State they put in a temporary Wooden
hatchery to undertake the hatching of a few fish. At present the
station is supplied with certain ponds. It is supplied with pumping
equipment sufficient to supply all the needs of a full hatchery and all
the ponds that may be established there, and now is doing no work
other than that incident to the rearing of fish in ponds. There is no
hatchery work at all being done.
Mr. SMITH. That is correct.
Mr. SHERLEY. I think the record should show that this hatchery
is just outside the city limits, through one corner of which is now
running a boulevard that the city of Louisville has built at an ex-
pense of a great many hundreds of thousands of dollars connecting
the park systein, that the hatchery is next door to a part of the prop-
erty of the State fair grounds, and is located on the Ohio River, with
water and rail transportation facilities. Its water supply is obtained
through pumping from an underground lake that extends over the
whole western area of Jefferson County, and it provides an adequate
supply of Water.
I should like also to have you put in the record the exact cost of
the power which you are using to pump this water. My memory is
that when used at the capacity contemplated when the hatchery is
running as a hatchery, makes it cost something under 2 cents a kilo-
watt hour, and nearer 1 cent than 2 cents.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 611.
Mr. SMITH. The Louisville Gas & Electric Co. has quoted the fol-
lowing prices for power and light for the Louisville station:
Rate for power : First 1,000 kilowatt hours consumed each month, at 4 cents
per kilowatt hour ; next 1,800 kilowatt hours consumed per month, at 3 cents
per kilowatt hour; next 3,600 kilowatt hours consumed per month, at 2 cents
per kilowatt hour ; the excess over 6,400 kilowatt hours consumed each month,
at 1 cent per kilowatt hour. Discount 20 per cent and 5 per cent.
The minimum bill for power shall be $45 per month.
Rate for light: For a consumption in one month of less than 150 kilowatt
hours, 10 Cents per kilowatt houl: ; for a consumption in One month of more than
150 kilowatt hours and less than 300 kilowatt hours, 9 cents per kilowatt
hour; for a Consumption in One month of more than 300 kilowatt hours and less
than 500 kilowatt hours, 8 cent per kilowatt hour ; for a consumption in one
month of 500 kilowatt hours, 7 cents per kilowatt houl: ; thereafter the next 150
kilowatt hours at 7 cents per kilowatt hour ; the next 150 kilowatt hours at 6
cents per kilowatt hour; all current used in excess of 800 kilowatt hours, at 5
cents per kilowatt hour. Less a discount of 5 per cent.
Minimum bill, $1 per month.
Mr. GILLETT. Is there no natural water supply there at all?
. Mr. SHERLEY. There is no water supply in that county of sufficient
volume. There are a great many springs in the eastern part of
Jefferson County, but the amount of water used for a hatchery is
y; y
very much in excess of what is commonly supposed, and measuring
springs demonstrated that there was not a sufficient supply, but
there is an underground lake where water is obtained in unlimited
quantities and of a temperature and character fit for hatchery pur-
poses. - - ;
The CHAIRMAN. I understood you to say that you had the pump-
ing equipment. Is this an additional pumping house? -
Mr. SMITH. Mr. Sherley, will you please answer that, because I
have not been there.
Mr. SHERLEY. As I recall, you have now part of a permanent
pumping house in which is situated your pumps and your electric
apparatus for controlling your power. Just what is meants by
“pump house and office.” I do not quite know; * - - *
Mr. SMITH. This is an estimate submitted by the architect and
engineer who went there for the purpose. º gº
Mr. SHERLEY. I notice that you are figuring excavation at 50
cents, and in the detailed statement touching excavation at Wyoming
you are figuring the same kind of excavation at 37% cents.
The CHAIRMAN. And in South Carolina at 40 cents. .
Mr. SHERLEY. I wanted to inquire why it was figured at that rate.
The excavation at this hatchery is not of an unusual character, and
in point of fact the land is peculiarly well situated for the making
of ponds. iº # * : º gº
Mr. SMITH. These estimates are based on the Scales prevailing in
the different localities and on the different kinds of soil that have to
be excavated. - e & tº g
Mr. JoHANNEs. I do not know a thing about it, but in connection
with the excavation you always have to have some way of disposing
of the material, and it may be that they have to haul this material
farther in Louisville than in other places.
Mr. SHERLEy. It would not have to be hauled off of the ground,
There is no part of the soil from excavation that could not be used
advantageously in the grading of the remainder of the ground.
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What do you contemplate putting in after your hatchery is estab-
lished, as to the character of fish which will be propagated?
Mr. SMITH. The hatchery would be intended for fishes not sus-
ceptible to cultivation in ponds, namely, the trouts. -
Mr. SHERLEY. In particular would it not be, rather than trout,
mainly the pike perch?
Mr. SMITH, I was coming to that.
Mr. GILLETT. You can not have trout in such warm water?
Mr. SMITH. The rainbow trout will live in the water supplied by
the Wells and is adapted for Kentucky streams. That would be one
of the Species that we would undertake to propagate. Another spe-
cies of great commercial importance is the pike perch or wall-eye
pike, of which the eggs can be hatched in very large numbers. The
ponds would be intended for the rearing of fishes hatched in ponds
and also hatched in the hatchery itself.
Mr. SHERLEY. In the ponds it would be the bass family?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jon ES. I can give you the information you ask for, Mr. Chair-
Iſla Il.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well.
Mr. Jon Es. This pump house spoken of in connection with the
office at $3,000 was suggested in the original plans. It was to con-
tain the motors for pumping the water into these two houses already
built, 50 feet on each side of this proposed pump house. It is for in-
stalling these two motors that are now in the pump house already
constructed. They do not belong there and were only put there tem-
porarily because we had not enough funds to build the third building.
The CHAIRMAN. Maybe you do not need it there?
Mr. Jon Es. Yes, sir; we need it very much.
The CHAIRMAN. The motors are in there and working?
Mr. Jon Es. It is done with a great deal of inconvenience and more
or less danger.
'ſ Iſ It EE NEW DISTRIBUTION CARS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Distribution cars: For con-
struction of three steel cars for the distribution of useful food fishes,
to take the place of three wooden cars, obsolete and unsafe, to be
available until expended, $60,000.” How many cars have you?
Mr. SMITH. We have six cars.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of them are steel and how many
wooden'
Mr. SMITH. They are all wooden.
The Ci:\in\rs N. Did we appropriate for these cars at one time?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; but we were not able to build the cars within
the appropriation and the money lapsed.
The CIFAIRMAN. How much did we appropriate; $50,000?
Mr. SMITH. Thirty thousand dollars for two cars, with the expec-
tation at that time that they could be built for $15,000 apiece.
The CHAIRMAN. What year was that? *
'Mr. SMITII. That was in the fiscal year 1912 or 1913.
The CHAIRMAN. You say that you have an informal bid of $19,500
for each car. When were they received ?
Mr. SMITH. They were received during the past autumn.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 613 .
The CHAIRMAN. Will these cars have any greater capacity than the
present cars? *
Mr. SMITH. They will be built on the lines of the present wooden
Cal’S. .
The CHAIRMAN. Will they have any greater capacity?
Mr. SMITH. No, sir. Mr. Chairman, I can give you a very full
statement in regard to this whole matter of cars, if you will allow me
to submit it. *.
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Mr. SMITH. It is only a question of time when we will be unable
to haul these Wooden fish-cars on passenger trains. Nearly every
road in the country is putting on steel cars and we shall have to fail
in with the prevailing practice. One of my assistants visited the
car manufacturing concerns in Chicago, Pittsburgh, Dayton, and
Wilmington for the purpose of ascertaining the approximate cost
of constructing three all-steel fish transportation cars to meet the
bureau's requirements in accordance with the plans and specifica-
tions which he took with him for this purpose. I have here a write
ten statement from each of these car-manufacturing concerns show.
ing just what they will do.
The CHAIRMAN. Will these cars be equipped, or would this merely
mean the obtaining of the car and that it would require additional
money to equip it?
Mr. SMITH. The equipment that would be required for these cars
after their delivery by the car companies would cost very little and
would be paid out of the general appropriation, consisting mostly
of bedding and furniture required by the attendants.
The CHAIRMAN. There is some equipment to go in in addition to
what would be furnished?
Mr. SMITH. The equipment could be moved from the old cars.
The CHAIRMAN. There is some equipment to go in in addition to
what would be furnished at this price? - -
Mr. SMITH. Equipment which could not be supplied by the car-
building companies, typewriters, desks, blankets, sheets, and pillows,
for the most part. -
The CHAIRMAN. What about the tanks?
Mr. SMITH, All of that is contemplated in the bids which we have
received.
I should like to ask that you modify the phraseology of that item
as follows:
For the purchase or equipment of three steel cars, to be immediately avails
able and to remain available until eXpended.
The CHAIRMAN. Why change it?
Mr. SMITH. Because none of the car-building companies will un-
dertake to build these cars under contract.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that?
Mr. SMITH. Because the eight-hour law interferes with their estab:
lished system. They will undertake to supply the cars for a certain
price on accepted proposals. We ask for the same treatment which
has been accorded to the Interstate Commerce Commission, which is
buying cars in the open market.
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FUR-SEAL ISLANDS, ALASKA, COLD-STORAGE PLANT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fur seal islands, Alaska, cold-
storage plant, $3,000.” -
Mr. SMITH. There are no facilities now on the seal islands for
holding perishable stores.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought it was cold up there. *
Mr. SMITH. It is not particularly cold there, Mr. Chairman. It
is a damp and chilly climate, but very little ice forms and the snow
does not last. - .
Mr. Jon ES. I noticed this year that on account of the moisture in
the air the meat of the seal carcasses deteriorated very rapidly. If
we had a cold-storage plant we would have saved considerable of
this meat. The Aleuts eat what they need during these few months,
and the damp weather causes that which is unused to spoil rapidly.
Mr. SMITH. The seals are there mostly in midsummer and are
killed at that time. The killings are beyond the immediate require-
ments of the natives, and if we had facilities to carry these carcasses
over it would relieve us materially in sending so many supplies of
that kind up there.
FUR-SEAL ISLANDS, ALASKA–CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR OF BUILDINGS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fur-seal islands, Alaska, con-
struction and repair of buildings: For construction and repair of
buildings on St. George and St. Paul Islands, Alaska, to be avail-
able until expended, $9,500.” Are these the Pribilof Islands?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir. The buildings in many cases are in a de-
plorable state of repair, and we feel it is due the natives to give
them suitable habitation.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought that was one reason why you asked
for $75,000 in the other appropriation.
Mr. JoWEs, I gave that reason because this estimate of $9,500
was made while I was away, and I well know now that it is totally
inadequate; hence I used a well-founded argument for Some of that
other money. Thas smaller item will not fill the bill by 10 per cent
or more in repairing the native houses.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you say will be required for these
buildings, all told? - -
Mr. Jon Es. On the two islands?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. You can not expend money out of the
general appropriation for the same purpose?
Mr. Jon Es. We could repair them.
The CHAIRMAN. But not construct them.
Mr. JoSEs. I was referring to the lumber and material to repair
them in my other estimate. It would take $40,000 or $50,000 to put
the buildings on those two islands in shape. . .
The CHAIRMAN. What is the value of the buildings there now %
Mr. Jos Es. It is very hard to determine, because of their disrepu-
table condition. & -
The CHAIRMAN. You would not spend forty or fifty thousand dol-
lars on buildings which were of no value?
Mr. Jon Es. I mean some new buildings. The Government house,
for instance, should be rebuilt.
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The CHAIRMAN. How much would it cost to put the present build-
ings in suitable repair? -
Mr. Jon Es. Not to rebuild them, I should say $15,000 to $25,000.
The CHAIRMAN. What would be the value of the buildings upon
which this money would be spent? -
Mr. JoWES. I should say that they were worth in the neighborhood
of $100,000 on the two islands.
The CHAIRMAN. We spend money in repairing them every year.
Mr. SMITH. Minor repairs are kept up, and during the present year
We have put up some temporary structures urgently needed out of the
pOX material around the stores sent there.
The CHAIRMAN. You have $150,000 for this purpose and the build-
ings have got in such a condition that it will require 15 or 20 per
cent to repair them? -
Mr. SMITH. Some of the buildings have been there since 1868—the
original buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. This building has been here since 1868, if you will
pardon me. e - -
h: SMITH. But no stone is available for construction purposes
there.
The CHAIRMAN. Mere age is no argument.
Mr. JONES The buildings have been sadly neglected.
The CHAIRMAN. I am trying to ascertain the reason, in view of
what we have appropriated—in 1911, $150,000, and in 1912, $100,000.
Mr. JoWES. In the damp weather the lumber does not last long. I
was there for three weeks and there was not a clear day all of that
time. In fact, there is very little sunshine on those islands, and
that is a contributing cause to the buildings not lasting long.
The CHAIRMAN. They have lasted a long while.
Mr. JoSEs. Yes, sir; but they should have been repaired 10 years
agO.
The CHAIRMAN. They have been repaired from year to year?
Mr. Jon Es. Yes, sir; by patching. - - -
Mr. SMITH. The condition of the dwelling houses of these natives
is certainly demanding consideration from the department. Tuber-
culosis prevails to the extent of 60 per cent of the total population.
That is produced largely by the very insanitary condition of the
dwellings—they are rotten—and there is no way of getting the germs
of tuberculosis out of these dwellings except by demolishing and de-
stroying them. - t
Mr. GILLETT. Is not that due somewhat to the habits of the natives?
Mr. SMITH. The habits of the natives contribute in part to the
condition that prevails. Tuberculosis, however, is largely of the
hereditary type.
Mr. GILLETT. How many natives are there? -
Mr. SMITH. Over 300.
FISH HATCHERY, BAKER LAKE, WASH.-RECONSTRUCTION OF IIATCHERY
- AND BARN. -
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Fish hatchery, Baker Lake,
Wash. : For the reconstruction of the hatchery building and barn
recently destroyed by fire, $4,500.”
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Mr. SMITH. That building was destroyed by fire through no
neglect of the attendants, and we desire authority to rebuild it. I
might say that the hatchery work is going on in the open air in a
freezing temperature, and we have a large number of valuable fish
in the course of incubation.
The CHAIRMAN. When was the building erected, in 1912?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. When destroyed?
Mr. SMITH. In 1914.
Mr. JoHANNEs. This last winter—1913–14. -
The CHAIRMAN. I do not know what winter that is. -
Mr. Jon Es. The early part of 1914.
Mr. JoHANNES. If you will add to that estimate the words “to be
immediately available “ you will enable us to go ahead with this
work. That will save us about three months and give us the sum-
mer season to do the work. We tried to get it in the deficiency bill,
but evidently it was not thought necessary.
The CHAIRMAN. The Secretary sent down a statement of the items
that he thought urgent and that was not included.
Mr. JoHANNES. We submitted it as an estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. I know. The Secretary was unable to come be-
fore the committee and he sent down a memorandum as to the items
in the estimates that he believed were urgent and desired included
in the bill, and we included those and eliminated the others.
Mr. GILLETT. What kind of fish are hatched in Washington?
Mr. Jon Es. The Chinook salmon.
LOUISVILLE (KY.) STATION, ADDITION TO.
[See p. 608.]
The CHAIRMAN. “Fish hatchery, Louisville, Ky.,” there is an esti-
mate here for a pump house and office. Have you a pump house down
there now % -
Mr. von BAYER. No, sir; this was the original design of a pump
house, the middle building with four rooms and an entrance here
[indicating on blue print].
The CHAIRMAN. Is this the hatchery building?
Mr. von BAYER. No, sir; that is the power house. We did not
have money enough to build the middle part. We advertised and
the money appropriated was not sufficient so they cut this part out,
and I now want this part put in to make it complete.
The CHAIRMAN. What part of it is built?
Mr. von BAYER. This is built, and this is built [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. The two wings?.
Mr. von BAYER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Were these wings built separately?
Mr. von BAYER. Yes, sir. They are connected with an open walk,
and they were put there in order not to rob the ground of the water
which we pump. We pump a lot of water there. We pump over
1,700 gallons a minute.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this a two-story building?
Mr. von BAYER. One story and attic.
The CHAIRMAN. What is to go in this building?
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Mr. VON BAYER. A bathroom for the engineer, engineer’s room and
office, and the electric machinery is to go in here [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. Does the engineer live in this building?
Mr. von BAYER. He will live in it. That building is not there now.
The CHAIRMAN. But it is intended he shall live there?
Mr. von BAYER. Yes, sir; because he has to be there night and
day. They pump there all the 24 hours of the day at times.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the transformer room?
Mr. von BAYER. We get the current now of 6,000 voltage from the
electric company and we have to reduce it down, I think, to 500.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is that done now %
Mr. von BAYER. On both sides, in the Wings.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any reason why it can not be done that
way? • .
TMr. von BAYER. It is just like you can have a house with two
rooms and live in it, but it is not convenient to have it arranged that
way when it was laid out as a nice architectural building. Of course,
it can be used, but the man can not sleep there, and he has to go miles
to his home. I think it is a necessity, both architecturally and on
account of the machinery to go in there; besides it is dangerous,
under the present arrangement. -
Mr. GILLETT. Do you work there? -
Mr. von BAYER. I started the buildings. I surveyed the place and
worked there for about three months.
Mr. GILLETT. Where are you located now Ż
Mr. von BAYER. At the bureau here. s
The CHAIRMAN. Have you the plans for the hatchery building?
Mr. von BAYER. No, sir; that has not been gotten up yet.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any plans for it?
Mr. von BAYER. No plans for it; no, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you estimate it will cost $6,000?
Mr. von BAYER. Because we have erected about 50 or 60 hatcheries,
and they average about that. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is there to be an office in the hatchery building?
Mr. von BAYER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of an office?
Mr. von BAYER. About 10 by 14 on one side of the entrance. We
generally put in an office where they keep the books and records of
what is going on in the hatchery, so it will be comfortable in the
winter time. They always like to have an office with a little fire-
lace. -
p The CHAIRMAN. Is that to be a one or two story building?
Mr. von BAYER. One story with a large attic above.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it to be a frame or brick building?
Mr. von BAYER. Nearly all of our hatcheries are frame build-
II). QS.
#e CHAIRMAN. What are the dimensions?
Mr. von BAYER. They average about 65 by 40 feet.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you prepare the estimate of 50 cents a yard
for excavation at Louisville'?
Mr. von BAYER. I think it was less than that.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what I am trying to find out. It is esti-
mated here as 8,000 cubic yards at 50 cents.
Mr. VON BAYER. That is for extra ponds.
618 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. VON BAYER. I think we did it for less. I think we had 50
cents in the original appropriation, and we saved some money.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you do it for ?
Mr. VON BAYER. I should say it could be done for 45 cents.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice you have concrete work estimated at $10
a yard; is not that pretty high? g
Mr. VON BAYER. No, sir; the forms, the concrete, and the labor
cost $10 absolutely, especially in small jobs. If you had a great big
bridge to build it might go down to $7.50. That is the cheapest I
ever saw it. We pay $10 right along.
The CHAIRMAN. You have 10 ponds now and you are proposing
to build 24 more. What is the necessity for so many ponds?
Mr. VON BAYER. The fish culturalists are requested to raise as many
fish as they can and these 24 ponds are to be 8 by 60 feet, I believe.
They are long, narrow troughs and are lined with concrete. I do
not think we have seven big ponds. I think we have in Louisville
about five now. Would you like to look at the layout [indicating
blue print]? I surveyed all that ground. Here is the Ohio River
right on our boundary on the west and then comes a steep bluff. The
flood waters come to a height of 440 feet above the sea, and my build-
ings and ponds are above that a few feet.
The CHAIRMAN. How high are you?
Mr. von BAYER. I think we are 450 feet, or something like that.
The CHAIRMAN. 450 feet above high water?
Mr. von BAYER. No, sir; only about 10 or 12 feet above high water.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are your ponds?
Mr. von BAYER. Right here [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. Where are these small ponds to go?
Mr. VON BAYER. Right here. The State fair grounds are here and
here ſindicating]. We are surrounded by very fine buildings be-
longing to people of wealth.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for $2,000 for grounds, roads,
and walks. You have already spent something on that, have you
not ?
Mr. VON BAYER. Yes, sir; we have. We have not the roads and
walks between and around the ponds. I did some work here on this
walk to make a passageway, but I do not think I spent more than
six or seven hundred dollars.
FISH STATION, or ANGEBURG. S. C.—BUILDINGS, ETC.
Ç
The CHAIRMAN. Fish hatchery, Orangeburg, S. C.; how much was
appropriated for this hatchery?
Mr. von BAYER. $25,000. . . .
The CHAIRMAN. Has that all been spent?
Mr. JoHANNEs. All but $43.64.
The CHAIRMAN. What was done with the $25,000?
Mr. Jon Es. Do you want the items?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. tº
Mr. Jon Es. Preliminary expense and travel, $1,438.34; inspec-
tion, superintendence, $1,037.01; land, $6,000; residence, $6,168.32;
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office and workshop, $505; grounds, roads, and walks, $171; tools
and appliances, $519.41; furniture and office expenses, $160.64;
ponds, $5,199.31; reservoir pond, $415.60; main drain, $2,324.37;
pond drains, $499.53; residence drain, $517.31; total, $23,531.36.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of plant is to be established here, a
Combination plant?
Mr. VON BAYER. It is supposed to be a hatchery. It is a pond
station now.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for these additional build-
ings and ponds?
Mr. VON BAYER. We have hardly done anything. We have devel-
oped three large natural ponds there, and our money, as it was
divided around, seemed to be enough to develop the lower one of the
ponds. There are three ponds and about 50 acres in the whole of it,
and we tried to develop it, and when we commenced to excavate we
found muck 3 or 4 feet deep, full of stumps, and it was very ex-
pensive to excavate it, but we have to carry the work on.
The CHAIRMAN. How many ponds have you now?
Mr. von BAYER. Five; but they are not finished.
The CHAIRMAN. You want 16 more, 6 breeding and 10 rearing.
Where are they to go?
h Mr. VON BAYER. Some of them would go in the next big pond
€I’e. -
The CHAIRMAN. Will that thoroughly complete this station?
Mr. von BAYER. It will as far as is intended to-day, but it would
not develop this pond here. - .
The CHAIRMAN. What pond is that?
Mr. von BAYER. That is a natural depression.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they raising fish there now %
Mr. von BAYER. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. How many ? -
Mr. von BAYER. They do not distribute any yet, but they put the
fish into this pond here. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. What do they do with them if they do not dis-
tribute them? - *
Mr. von BAYER. They let them increase in numbers; that is all. I
believe we have only one man at that station.
The CHAIRMAN. And they are not distributing any fish?
Mr. Jon Es. We have just begun to develop this plant.
STATION, SARATOGA, WYO.—BUILDINGS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. Fish hatchery, Saratoga, Wyo. How much has
been appropriated here? - *
Mr. Joris NNEs. There has been $25,000 appropriated and there has
been nothing spent yet. - .
The CHAIRMAN. Then, why do you want any money?
Mr. von BAYER. Except for travel. - .
Mr. JoHANNEs. I think they have bought the land, but it has not
been paid for. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the condition there? . -
Mr. von BAYER. At Saratoga we have accepted contracts for three
buildings and the work is going to start, I understand, the beginning
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of March. The contractor has 200 days to finish the contract. On
account of the cold weather we have allowed that time.
The CHAIRMAN. What have you contracted for there?
Mr. VON BAYER. The hatchery, superintendent's dwelling, and the
fish culturist's dwelling. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much are they to cost? :
Mr. von BAYER. The hatchery, $5,194. That is what we want.
We estimate the hatchery equipment at $1,000; superintendent's
residence, $6,344; fish-culturalist's cottage, $3,635; storehouse and
carpenter shop, estimated at $1,000; food house, $500; tools, $300;
railroad siding, $600; one stock pond, $500; two concrete rearing
ponds, $800; Water-supply pipe and drains, $1,250; purchase and
installation of hydraulic ram, $100; and contingencies, $1,630. -
There has been expended for the purchase of land and water
rights and surveys the sum of $2,270.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is this located?
Mr. von BAYER. About 4 miles from the city of Saratoga.
Mr. JoWES. In the southern portion of Wyoming.
The CHAIRMAN. How large a place is it? Is it near Cheyenne?
Mr. Jon Es. It is not very near Cheyenne.
Mr. VON BAYER. It is about 120 miles from Cheyenne.
The CHAIRMAN. You have not done anything yet, practically,
have you?
Mr. VON BAYER. We did not obtain title to the land until about
three months ago. .
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you pay for the land?
Mr. von BAYER. Not far from $2,000, or about $2,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How much land did you get?
Mr. von BAYER. Forty acres.
The CHAIRMAN. At this station you have to provide quarters for
employees that you do not have at other stations, do you not?
Mr. von BAYER. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. And that is why you have a fish-culturalist’s
cottage and propose a mess home and quarters?
Mr. von BAYER. Yes, sir.
HOMER (MINN.) STATION, BUILDING DESTROYED BY FIRE.
Mr. JoHANNEs. Mr. Chairman, I have some information about the
superintendent's residence at the Homer (Minn.) station. On June
30, 1914, there was an unexpended balance of the appropriations for
the construction of the station of $5,000. There were three appro-
priations, and the unexpended balance of all three of them was
$5,000. This $5,000 was allotted out as follows: $1,000 for the con-
struction of some ponds, which have been constructed and probably
paid for, and they allotted $3,750 for rebuilding the superintendent's
dwelling, which was the original cost of the building, and they now
say that if it is necessary they can allot about $300 more. The bureau
has decided to construct this building by using the employees there
and purchasing the material, and in that way they expect to save
something over the cost of constructing it under contract.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION will, 1916. 621
f w TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1915.
BURE AU OF STANDARDS.
STATEMENT OF MR. S. W. STRATTON, DIRECTOR.
TESTING OF LARGE SCALES. t
The CHAIRMAN. For the testing of large Scales the current ap-
propriation is $40,000, and you are asking for $50,000. Why is this
increase asked for 3 -
Mr. STRATTON. We have planned in connection with this work a
little more work for the States than we have been doing. We send
a man to a State that is introducing a new law or putting a weights-
and-measures law into effect in order to help the State to get started.
That usually ends our work in that connection. *
The CHAIRMAN. That is little beyond the purpose that the Bureau
of Standards was established for. Yours is a strictly Scientific
bureau, and it is not your business to cooperate with the States in
starting new laws or in helping to enforce them. You are asking
for this authority: “And for the purpose of cooperating with the
States in securing uniformity in the weights-and-measures laws and
in the methods of inspection.” This is beyond what it was ever con-
templated that the Bureau of Standards should do.
Mr. STRATTON. Possibly, but if we do not do that we will have a
great variety of laws. Especially when a State starts out with a
new proposition, and perhaps with an entirely new set of officials
who know nothing about it at all -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). That is always the way with them.
That was the way with you when you started out here. This $10,000
increase is for that purpose? -
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many cars have you?
Mr. STRATTON. We have two.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you operate them all the year?
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir—that is, one is operated all the year and
the other will be completed very soon. They are operated through-
out the year.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the result of the work?
Mr. STRATTON. Up to the present date, the car operating this year
visited the States of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, and Mis-
souri, at the request of the State officials. In the State of Min-
nesota 35 scales were tested, of which number 13 passed and 22
failed; in Wisconsin 24 scales were tested, none of them passed
and 24 failed; in Indiana 44 scales were tested, of which number 9
passed and 35 failed; in Iowa 54 scales were tested, of which num-
ber 13 passed and 41 failed; in Missouri 44 scales were tested, of
which number 17 passed and 27 failed. In other words, of these
surveys—and I think we might call them surveys—the percentage
found to pass with the reasonable tolerance of 0.2 per cent—and
that is the tolerance agreed upon—was 27 per cent, whereas 73 per
cent differed from the standard by an amount greater than the
tolerance.
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CHEMICAL LABORATORY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ Chemical laboratory: Toward
the construction of the fireproof chemical laboratory, to cost not ex-
ceeding $200,000 under a contract authorized by the act of August
1, 1914, $50,000.” What is the situation relative to that? You have
had $50,000 and are asking for $50,000.
Mr. STRATTON. The $50,000 will carry us up to about the 1st of
next January. A part of this could go over if we could submit it
in the first bills that come up next year.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you the building under contract?
Mr. STRATTON. No, sir; the plans are just about completed. The
contract would probably be let in from 30 to 60 days, with a view to
getting as much work as possible done during the summer.
TESTING MACHINE FOR TRANSVERSE TESTING, SITE, AND LABORATORY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “To enable the Secretary of
Commerce to procure for the Bureau of Standards a testing machine
of large capacity for the transverse testing of full-sized built-up
beams, bridge girders, arches, etc., of various lengths, with the nec-
essary scale and equipment for loads up to 4,000,000 pounds or over,
at a cost not exceeding $400,000, the contract for which is hereby
authorized, to be available until expended.” You are asking $50,000
for this purpose. +
Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I have nothing to say in addition
to what has been said before; this matter has been before the com-
mittee two or three times. It is a thing that ought to be done. I
have one suggestion to make : If you think favorably of the con-
struction of such a machine and would authorize a small sum, of,
say, $5,000, toward the preparation of plans and estimates, I would
like to see if a simpler machine might not be designed for less
money—something in the neighborhood of, perhaps, $250,000; but
I can not say as to that from the information we have, and I would
not be warranted in going further in the preparation of plans than
we have already gone.
The CHAIRMAN. This item and the next two items for a site and
building should be considered together.
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir; to a certain extent; but the site and build-
ing is for all of our large machines and all of the heavy structural
material work included. gy -
The CHAIRMAN. That item, all told, involves the expenditure of
probably $700,000.
Mr. STRATTON. And it would be distributed over about four or
five years.
The CHAIRMAN. The whole thing must be taken into consideration
together—that is, this item and the items for the acquisition of a
site and the erection of a building.
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir; although the site does not wholly depend
upon the large machine. I want to impress upon the committee the
necessity for either providing for that Pittsburgh work properly or
bringing it here—one or the other. I do not think we ought to con-
tinue in the temporary quarters. The War Department is pressing
us for the building for the use of the militia stores, We can, no
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doubt, stay there until we can make suitable arrangements elsewhere.
However, it is unwise for us to spend money on those buildings,
and we have not done so. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is this building you are asking for here connected
with this large machine?
Mr. STRATTON. Partially so. It would be used in connection with
that as well as for all of our large testing machines and heavy struc-
tural work. If the question of the site could be settled, the building
could be deferred. It will take, perhaps, a year to settle the question
of the site, but I thought that we ought to present the whole case.
A portion of the sum could be appropriated, and a site authorized
not to exceed the amount estimated for.
LABORATORY FOR RESEARCH AND TESTING IN RADIO COMMUNICATION.
The next item is, “For the construction of a fireproof laboratory
building to provide additional space to be used for research and test-
ing in radio communication, and to enable the Bureau of Standards
to provide space and facilities for cooperative research and experi-
mental work in radio communication by the War and Navy and other
departments, and for suitable aerials, to be immediately available
and to remain available until expended, under a contract which is
hereby authorized therefor.” You ask $50,000 for this purpose. Is
that the cost of the building? -
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What does this propose to do? *
Mr. STRATTON. At the present time there are five or six depart-
ments that are interested in the development of wireless telegraphy,
a subject which is founded upon scientific investigations probably
more than any other that we undertake. Both the Navy Department
and War Department carry on technical experimentations at their
various stations, and they have at the Bureau of Standards arrange-
ments for doing such scientific work as they undertake. The Navy
Department has a room and the War Department another at the
bureau. Our own work in connection with the scientific testing,
and especially the technical work done for the Bureau of Navigation,
which has the administration of the Wireless laws, is done in one or
two rooms in another building. Last year when the representatives
of the various departments were together discussing the Wireless laws
and the administration of those laws, it was suggested that the de-
partments combine in these investigations and work out the scientific
end of wireless telegraphy. That is the practical and economical
way to do it. It does not in any way interfere with the work that
each department would carry on by itself in the way of technical
work. The introduction and control of wireless as a life-saving
factor would warrant, I think, the expenditure of this money.
Mr. SHERLEY. Now, Dr. Stratton, what Congress would probably
be interested in having your view on is the question of where gov-
ernmental activities shall begin and end. Wireless telegraphy, like
most everything else that has great value to the World, has come
through the individual initiative of persons in private life and
through the inventions of men not connected with the Government.
It is a subject of vast importance, and it is being developed because
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of that fact. Now, what is there about it that makes you think that
the Government should enter the field, to what extent should it enter
the field, and how far is the field now occupied by private investi-
gators' - -
Mr. STRATTON. I will give you an illustration of that: Two years
ago when the laws for the control of wireless on merchant steamers
went into effect one of the very first regulations enacted was to con-
trol the Wave lengths of the apparatus used, and there was no method
in existence at that time that was practicable for the measurement
of Wave lengths. That problem of the measurement of Wave lengths
was submitted to our wireless expert—I do not mean that he is an
expert operator, I do not suppose he can, operate a set—but that
problem is an electrical one, and he developed a wave meter which
made it possible to administer that law. In addition, the War De-
partment, Navy Department, and the Revenue-Cutter Service make
use of that apparatus, and it is absolutely essential in making their
wireless apparatus conform to the law. -
Mr. SHERLEY. But that is behind you. -
Mr. STRATTON. I know; but that is merely an illustration, and
there are thousands of such problems. It is a mistake to assume that
the initiative in these matters is always taken by private individuals.
It is true to a large extent, but the private individual nearly always
ties and hampers himself in such a way that his invention is not
available for the Government service. However, there is a great deal
of development in that way. Still, somebody has got to say what is
reasonable or what is a standard service, and what is the best thing
that the Government can use in its own work. The bureau is acting
very largely in the capacity of a scientific adviser of the Government
departments when they touch our fields of work. They are continu-
ally calling upon us for standardizations and to answer questions
that involve investigations. The investigation of the wireless prob-
lems is almost entirely electrical. It involves the standardization of
electrical resistance, of electrical capacities and inductances, and it
is one of the most difficult propositions to handle. There is a great
deal of standardization to be done in connection with wireless teleg-
raphy, and the success of the departments in the application of wire-
less depends largely upon the development of the underlying scien-
tific principles. The amount of development work that we do at the
bureau is probably insignificant when compared with that of private
individuals, both here and abroad, as well as foreign Governments,
but who shall get it all together and keep in touch with the best
that has been done by private individuals, and even by foreign Gov-
ernments, and make it available for our Government departments
and bureaus? We are called upon frequently for advice. The Bu-
reau of Navigation, in our own department, frequently comes to us
with the question, “Shall this be allowed?” or “Should that be
allowed' " Wireless telegraphy is in its infancy, and it is being de-
veloped very rapidly. There are a great many questions regarding
the use of wireless that are now pending and ought to be settled.
Mr. SHERLEY. The question I wanted light upon was how far the
settlement of these questions would come through governmental
activities and how far they would come through private activities.
Mr. STRATTON. I think that the original development of these
things comes from two sources. It comes from the commercial man,
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 625
but he never goes very far into the scientific facts involved. These
principles are also developed through universities and Scientific
laboratories. It comes through laboratories like ours, where the work
involves standardization or where it is involved in the enactment
and administration of laws. The Government should be progressive
and up to date in its work and not merely follow the work of com-
mercial firms or foreign Governments. The Government depart-
ments are frequently called upon to pass upon the relative merits of
devices and inventions. -
Mr. SHERLEY. That is bound to be the case. You have been doing
it by piecemeal where you have undertaken it.
Mr. STRATTON. We only make investigations when the informa-
tion sought is not in existence; but somebody must serve, so far as
the Government work is concerned, as a clearing house, so to speak,
for that sort of information. We make it our business to know
what is being done that can be applied or used in connection with
our laws or standards. I think it is one of the best things the bureau
is doing. We do not go out of our way for it, but simply utilize the
information that comes to us from our regular work of standardiza-
tion and related investigations. For instance, a short time ago the
Navy Department asked us for information regarding periscopes
for use on submarines. Our expert who makes tests and standards
relating especially to the operation of optical instruments had
exactly the information that the Navy Department desired. It is a
by-product with him, and he simply utilized what he had already.
He gave the Navy Department the optical data required in connec-
tion with the periscope. There are a good many other illustrations
of this. There is no getting around the fact that many of these
things have got to be passed upon and corrected, even when devel-
oped by private interests. That is what the bureau is for.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you need a building in which to do this
work that you want to do? Why can’t you do that work without a
special building? --- -
Mr. STRATTON. We have no space for it. It is simply a building
with practically one floor. This involves a considerable amount of
heavy apparatus that Ought to be out of the way of other things—
such as the high potential transformers, etc. The character of the
work requires separate space.
The CHAIRMAN. We have them in three different rooms now; why
can’t you get them all together? *
Mr. STRATTON. That is what I want to do.
The CHAIRMAN. Why can’t you rearrange it? *
Mr. STRATTON. They are now on the fourth floor of one building
and the machinery is in the basement of another building.
The CHAIRMAN. Why can’t you arrange to put them all together?
Mr. STRATTON. It would be impracticable to bring them all
together in the same building on account of the lack of space. The
main difficulty is the character of the work. It requires peculiar
apparatus and peculiar conditions which do not exist in the other
buildings. That is the main trouble. Furthermore, the space we
can allot is not sufficient.
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626 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
CERTIEICATION OF COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS INTENDED FOR EXPORT.
The CHAIRMAN. You have the following estimate:
“For the special certification of commercial products intended for
export, including the necessary inspection and tests connected there-
with, provided that such certification shall be limited to classes of
materials being examined by the Bureau of Standards for the Gov-
ernment, and shall be made only upon request of manufacturers
concerned and upon the payment of an adequate fee, including per-
sonal services in the District of Columbia and in the field, to be
immediately available, $25,000.”
Mr. STRATTON. A curious situation has developed in regard to the
South American trade. Many of the materials that have been
purchased heretofore by the South American trade from Germany
and other European countries have received the stamp of approval
of those Governments; for example, the German material-testing
institute. The Bureau of Standards does not do what we call com-
mercial testing for private individuals, as there are testing labora-
tories throughout the country that do testing for individuals for fees,
and we try not to interfere with their work. We like, of course, to
give to the private testing laboratories such information as we se-
cure as to standards or methods of testing While Serving as the testing
laboratory for Government materials, and that is far enough to go
after the standard is established; but the South American trade does
not as yet accept the tests of such private laboratories. The cement
specifications of some South American countries were prepared orig-
inally for Belgium cement, but through the efforts of our depart-
ment they have been modified So as to include American cement.
But some of these Governments require that such materials shall have
the stamp of the Government of the country from which they are
imported.
Mr. GILLETT. Did the Belgium Government provide that?
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir. I think most of the European countries do.
It is one of the means employed to Secure the trade of foreign coun-
tries. The case that came up, and on which we have been doing a
little work, is that of cement. A certificate is given cement manu-
facturers for a lot of cement, just as it would be given in the case of
cement for the Panama Canal. They are charged for that and all
of the expense in connection with it. But now come paint manu-
facturers and other manufacturers of materials, who say that they
want the Government’s stamp of approval on those materials, and
that it is required before they will be accepted in foreign countries.
I am not anxious to push this line of Work too far, yet we will try,
under proper limitations, to do it if it is of real importance, and I
believe it is—it will extend our foreign trade—we will do it if you
desire, but we can not do it out of our regular funds, and we ought
not to do it at all unless it is authorized. I propose that every bit of
work of that kind done shall pay for itself, and that at the end of the
wear the sum turned back into the Treasury from fees and un-
expended balance shall equal the appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any authority for doing this work at
present? - tº: ~ *
Mr. STRATTON. No, sir; I do not consider that we have authority
to do that work.
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Mr. GILLETT. Would foreign Governments know your standing?
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. So that your certificate would carry weight?
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir. There has been no question about it in
the case of cement, and there has been no question about its helping
our cement people to get that trade. - - -
Mr. SHERLEY. You do not actually examine anything except sam-
ples of the articles, and what guaranty is there that the shipment
will be up to the samples examined? •
Mr. STRATTON. They will have to be inspected. It means an in-
spection Service, and that is just the point. There is not much scien-
tific work involved in it, because we are examining all of these ma-
terials for the Government Service. We examine these materials
for the Supervising Architect and the various bureaus. It means
going to Warehouses and selecting Samples of a large lot of ma-
terials ready for shipment, testing them and sealing the shipment in
a particular way with the Government stamp.
Mr. SHERLEY. On the same principle as the inspection of beef for
export? * . . -
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir; and of cement for the Panama Canal.
That is the Way cement is handled. The cement goes into a bin and
the inspector takes a sample from that bin and seals it. When we
have reported favorably on the sample, that bin of cement is released
for shipment to the Panama Canal, but to no other place, except for
Government work. All Government cement is handled in that way;
all of the incandescent lamps that the Government uses are inspected
in the same way. Those, however, are cases provided for in our
regular appropriations. This means an inspection service for cer-
tain materials intended for export. I am perfectly willing to do it
if it will help our foreign trade, but I do not wish that sort of work
to interfere with the other work of the bureau.
The CHAIRMAN. How would you know that the shipment when it
reached the consignee contained the materials that you had in-
spected?
Mr. STRATTON. It has to be stamped. In the case of cement, of
course, the bin is sealed, and the cars for the Panama Canal are
loaded out of that bin. In the case of incandescent lamps, when the
inspector goes to the factory he puts a little seal on each package,
and when the package goes to the department or bureau they will
not receive it unless the seal is intact. In the case of a shipment of,
say, 100 tons of white lead, that 100 tons of white lead would be
sampled and tested, and then the whole lot would be marked in such
a way as to identify it and in a manner that would prevent the sub-
stitution of other material for it.
The CHAIRMAN. If it were shipped in cans it would involve a tre
mendous amount of inspection work.
Mr. STRATTON. It would be in rather large packages, and you do
not have to take a sample from every one. The method of sampling
would vary with the different materials. If 100 tons of white lead
were shipped from the same manufacturer, and if you were to select
several sample packages at random, say, 1 out of 100, you would get
a pretty fair sample of the entire shipment. Then you would have
to take the whole lot and stamp it or Seal it.
628 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Th; CHAIRMAN. How are you going to guard against Substitu-
tions?
Mr. STRATTON. The method would be different in different mate-
rials. In the case of incandescent lights a red tape is put around the
package in such a way that it can not be opened without breaking
the seal. In the case of cement there is a little lead seal put around
the bag tie. That is handled pretty successfully, but there would
be a different method for each material. There will not be any
trouble about it. It is simply a question of expense. We have two
or three inspection services now, but it is all for Government work.
Mr. GILLETT. This would involve quite a large force, would it not?
Mr. STRATTON. I can not tell you, but I hardly think so. It
would include the principal building materials, paints, oils, and
articles of that kind. I really think that it would pass away after
a while. Those people down there have been so accustomed to pur-
chasing from Germany and Belgium in that Way that they are sus-
picious of our materials to a large extent.
Mr. GILLETT. I think it would be a good thing in opening up the
trade there to make our manufacturers come up to the standard and
not try to work off anything on them.
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir. The thing to be guarded against is the
establishment of the same sort of thing in this country. That will
be the next step they will want us to take. They will want us to
have an inspection service for the public here, and that we do not
want. º
The CHAIRMAN. So that all manufactured articles would be tested
and guaranteed by the Government?
Mr. STRATTON. Yes, sir; but we do not want that. I think that
private testing laboratories can do that in this country. I am per-
fectly willing to take this up in connection with material for export
and do the best we can with it, because I think it will help our manu-
facturers to introduce their materials into foreign markets.
Secretary REDFIELD. There is an item not in the estimates, but it
came up very late and appears in House Document 1470, for the
Bureau of Standards, of which Dr. Stratton will speak in detail and
of which I wish to say a word or two. In connection with our effort
to have specifications removed which are adverse to American manu-
facturers, we found in a certain country specifications with narrow
limits as to the amount of magnesia, allowed in Portland cement.
That meant that the cement which was used to build the Panama
Canal could not be sold in that country because it contained sulphate
of magnesia in excess of the specifications. Upon further examina-
tion we discovered that the probability was that certain foreign
manufacturers had been active in securing the establishment of speci-
fications that would exclude many American brands. After a year's
negotiations we found that that could be removed on one condition,
namely, that there should be given an official Government test of the
cement, and when that was agreed to there was put in my hands by
the ambassador an order for 50,000 barrels, simply because the
Bureau of Standards tested the cement with its existing plant and
simply certified that it was a proper quality. That thing has grown,
and in the last four or five months, since the demand upon us has been
So great from abroad, and there is a large amount of export trade that
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 629
we can get if we can give the Government certificate. They are
abundantly able to pay for this service which, as a matter of fact,
refunds every dollar of Čost back into the Treasury. Dr. Stratton,
not on my motion and without my knowledge, prepared this. It is
becoming such a large factor, a most unexpected factor in our foreign
trade, that we felt this was necessary for the good of our foreign
business and directly in his line of work.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this to cover commodities where some foreign
Government demands a certificate? -
Secretary REDFIELD. It is usually that. It may be a foreign cor-
poration which has a direct or indirect relation to the Government,
or it may possibly be a large buyer who has the right to demand an
official test.
The CHAIRMAN. A certificate of analysis?
Secretary REDFIELD. Yes, sir; of quality.
The CHAIRMAN. No guaranty? -
Secretary REDFIELD. No, sir; a certificate as to its quality.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1915.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
STATEMENT OF MR. JAMES I. PARKER, CHIEF CLERK.
Repairs to buildings—parent office, rump Floon.
The CHAIRMAN. “Repairs to buildings, Interior Department,” the
present appropriation is $30,000 and you are asking for $40,000?
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What buildings are cared for under this appro-
priation? - - -
Mr. PARKER. The Patent Office Building, the old Post Office Build-
ing, where the Land Office is, and the Pension Office Building.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you need an increase of 33 per cent?
Mr. PARKER. We want the extra $10,000 to put the third floor of the
Patent Office Building in the same shape that we have put the other
two floors in. As you will remember, we buried the wires, put new
floors in the rooms, painted the walls and Woodwork, put in new
electrical appliances, and so forth, on the first and second floors
of the Patent Office Building. We did that out of the repair of
buildings fund and some special appropriations which you gave us.
I am trying to keep the work within the repair of buildings fund.
I think with another $10,000 to that fund we can put the third floor
in shape, which is the gallery floor of the Patent Office Building,
where they have a lot of rooms of Wood and glass construction, put
up temporarily years ago and have been allowed to stand, and
where the ceiling is all splotched and broken and the plaster is fall-
ing off on account of the leakage which occurred before the new roof
Was put on.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the condition of the rest of the building?
Mr. PARKER. The first and second floors are in very good shape.
I do not think I will have to ask for any more money for the build-
jng, outside of the regular appropriation, if we get the $10,000.
630 suMDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they wooden floors?
Mr. PARKER. We have a basement, first, second, and third floors.
The floors in the rooms in the basement are, as a rule, of wood—a
few are of concrete. The corridors are of concrete and marble.
The floors in the rooms on the first and second floors of the building
are of wood. The corridors are of marble. The floors in the rooms
on the third floor are of marble or concrete, except on the F Street
side, where they are of wood. The basement, first, and second floors
are in first-class shape. On the first floor we are just finishing a
complete rejuvenation of all the rooms. We have yet 13 rooms to
complete on that floor. They will be completed by the end of the
year. There [exhibiting photograph] is a picture of the top or third
floor. There is one section of the ceiling. {
The CHAIRMAN. Where is that, in the working room?
Mr. PARKER. Right above a working room.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this off in some obscure corner?
Mr. PARKER. No, sir; it is right by the elevator.
The CHAIRMAN. In the corridor? e
Mr. PARKER. Right in the corridor. There [exhibiting photograph]
is a view of the corridor. You can see the condition of the ceiling.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want to do? - .
Mr. PARKER. I want to plaster this ceiling in the corridor [in-
dicating] and paint it white or some light color so that it will be
light and bright, and I want to make this glass and wood construc-
tion [indicating] permanent construction like those rooms. -
The CHAIRMAN. What are they
Mr. PARKER. Brick and plaster. g
The CHAIRMAN. You want to substitute brick and plaster for the
Wood 7 -
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How about the floor? - -
Mr. PARKER. The floor is all right. We will have to put new floors
In some of the rooms.
The CIIAIRMAN. How about the wiring?
Mr. PARKER. We want to bury the wires; we have an appropriation
for that.
The CHAIRMAN. The additional $10,000 for which you are asking
will cover the whole building? #
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir; I think it will enable us to do all we need
to do and that we will not have to ask hereafter for anything beyond
the usual $30,000. .
The CHAIRMAN. That will finish the Patent Office Building?
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir; I think so.
The CHAIRMAN. How are the other buildings? *
Mr. PARKER. They are in first-class shape. I think we have
enough money in the regular appropriation to do everything we need
to do. *
Mr. MoRDELL. What did we finally do with the roof that we dis-
cussed a great deal last year?
Mr. PARKER. You made an appropriation four or five years ago
to put on a new roof. That was done. Then you authorized a new
skylight. The bids for that will be opened on the 12th of this
month. We advertised once and rejected all the bids because they
were in excess of the appropriation. .
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Mr. MoRDELL. Have you the skylight?
Mr. PARKER. The appropriation is for an entirely new skylight.
We are going to use the old frame.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand. It will be practically a renewal?
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. The appropriation you now have will repair the
basement completely? -
Mr. PARKER. We have a new floor in the basement, for which you
gave us an appropriation. It is the prettiest thing you ever saw,
Mr. MoRDELL. You have gotten rid of that unsightly condition
which you and I saw 7 -
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir. We have new floors, and we are burying
the Wires, getting them out of sight.
Mr. MoRDELL. The additional $10,000 you are asking for this year
will ºt the Patent Office Building in good shape from cellar to
garret'. -
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir. I think we will finish that job, but if there
should be anything lacking we can make it up out of the repairs
fund next year. -
Mr. MoRDELL. How about the cases on the top floor?
Mr. PARKER. The file cases?
Mr. MoRDELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. PARKER. They are still there.
Mr. MoRDELL. The old wooden cases?
Mr. PARKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. They are still dangerous?
Mr. PARKER. Well, I suppose they are still dangerous.
Mr. MoRDELL. Or less dangerous? -
Mr. PARKER. I think they will be less dangerous. I think we can
take care of that situation.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1915.
PUBLIC IANDS SERVICE. - - , f
[See p. 941.] -
STATEMENT OF MR. CLAY TALLMAN, COMMISSIONER, GENERAL
LAND OFFICE.
REGISTERS AND RECEIVERS.
The CHAIRMAN. “Registers and receivers: For salaries and com-
missions of registers of district land offices and receivers of public
moneys at district land offices, at not exceeding $3,000 per annum
each,” and the appropriation is $540,000, and the estimate for the
next fiscal year is $540,000. What was the unexpended balance in
1914 & g
Mr. TALLMAN. $509,000 was the total expenditure, leaving a bal-
ance of $30,000 plus. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is that due to the fact that the compensation is
uncertain : *
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; and to the fact that the number is likely
to vary. They receive a fixed compensation of $500 each, and the
balance of their payment is fixed by law in fees and commissions
depending on the amount of business they do. Therefore it is impos-
sible to make an accurate statement of what it will cost. -
632. SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
CONTINGENT EXPENSES OF LAND OFFICEs.
[See p. 941.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Contingent expenses of land
offices,” etc., and the appropriation is $340,000, and your estimate
is $340,000. Did we not give you $20,000 last year because of certain
unfinished work? 4.
Mr. TALLMAN. No, sir; you gave us $20,000 to meet a deficiency
last year due to increased work. We had $320,000 in the appro-
priation and you gave us $20,000 more. I asked for $30,000, but that
was cut, and so we had exactly $340,000 after we had the deficiency
appropriation. This estimate equals the amount We had with that
additional amount.
The CHAIRMAN. Certain additional work has devolved on the
office because of the three-year homestead act? -
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And you had an accumulation of work?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the situation in regard to that?
Mr. TALLMAN. The work of the office is keeping right up in quan-
tity and it is fully equal to the amount it has been for the last two or
three years. We are having, I think, more final proofs on three-year
homesteads than we did two years ago. The amount of final home-
steads and land entries we are approving for patent is as much or
more for 1914 than for the previous year.
Mr. GILLETT. Is your accumulation being cleared up 3
Mr. TALLMAN. Our work is practically up to date, as far as the
handling of the work in local offices is concerned. In the local
offices we have nothing that might be called an accumulation, ex-
cept very slight at times. We have been able during the past year
with this appropriation by carefully handling our clerks and con-
tracting the force here and there where the business was falling off
and throwing them where the business was increasing to keep up the
work fairly well in all the local land offices and to catch it up mate-
rially in the General Land Office.
Mr. GILLETT. You do not mean that the General Land Office is up
to date?
Mr. TALLMAN. Not exactly.
Mr. GILLETT. Nearly'
Mr. TALLMAN. Some divisions are and some divisions are not.
The homestead work, generally speaking, is probably running two
and one-half months in arrears right now and gaining on the arrears.
Mr. GILLETT. Is that the worst?
Mr. TALLMAN. No, sir; that is not the worst. The Worst accumu-
lation of routine work of that kind has been in the desert-land work.
We had a considerable accumulation there due to the fact that the
desert-land proofs were made on the basis of water obtained by con-
tract or ownership of stock in some large irrigation project. Under
our regulations and practice we have to make an investigation of
those projects and determine their feasibility, practicability, and the
water-supply questions. That is a big detail job. As a result of that,
last year we had a very bad accumulation on that work. I have put
extra help on it and reorganized it and we are gaining materially on
that work and beginning to get it in fairly good shape; but it is
behind yet. Of course, the work we do in the office here is not pro-
vided for in this bill.
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The CHAIRMAN. At this rate of expenditure do you expect to get
your work all up 2
Mr. TALLMAN. In the local land offices under existing conditions
and existing laws and with the contractions resulting from decrease
of business at certain points, I think we can handle the local land-
Office business and keep it up to date on the estimate. This is
$10,000, I think, less than the estimate a year ago. Our estimate a
year ago included the extra $10,000 for the purpose of making what
We considered to be deserved promotions of clerks who had been in
the Service for some time at an average increase of about $5 a month
for those promoted. I was unable to make any promotions at the
commencement of the fiscal year because we did not have the money,
and I was determined to continue the office with the amount appro-
priated; but for the present fiscal year, under careful handling of the
situation, we were able on January 1 to promote a few clerks who
deserved it and who had not had any promotion for some years. I
think we can keep up the business in the local land offices unless too
many additional offices are created or unless some new land law is
passed which will operate largely to increase the business. There is
a bill pending, the so-called 640-acre homestead law, which, if passed,
I do not doubt would for a time very materially increase the land
business in all the offices and in the General Land Office. -
Mr. GILLETT. Unless there is something of that sort, ought it not
normally to decrease?
Mr. TALLMAN. No ; there is no sign of a decrease at present. We
patented more land last year than the year before, disposed of more
business and handled more new entries.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement showing the
exact increase in the amount of business.
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir.

Statement of number of entries made in the land service for fiscal years j912,
1913, and 1914.
Classes. 1912 1913 1914 Total.
Homestead entries:
Original.----------------- number. . 52,991 61,229 57,800 172,020
Final and commuted - - - - - - - - do. . . . 41,064 53, 308 59,363 153,735
Cash entries: -
Public Sales. . . . . . . . . . . . . . number. - 4,000 1,892 S66 6, 758
Preemption... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . 31 22 63 116
Timber and Stone... . . . . . . . . . do. --- 93 946 792 1,831
Mineral.--------------------- do. . . . 905 737 788 2,430
Coal-----------------*-------- do---- 5S 76 63 197
Abandoned military reservations,
number-------------------------- 18 31 11 60
Original desert-land entries-number 10,392 8,870 6,665 25,927
Final desert-land entries. . . . . do. . . . 2,454 2, 102 2,322 6,878
Miscellaneous entries..... . . . . . . . . do. --- 122 1,487° - 4,020 5,629
Indian entries. -----------------. do. . . . 6,986 4,066 4,527 15,579
Railroad selections. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . area. . . 25,393.87 1,347,074.30 815,284.90 2, 187,753.07
State Selections. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . 181,280.62 598,657.74 1, 102,215.95 1,882, 154.31
Rejected applications and proofs:
Appealed----------------- number. . (1) 2,951 2,879 5,830
Unappealed. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do.... (1) 12,797 11,902. 24,609
Total----------------------------- 119, 114 2 150, 514 2 152,061 421,689
1 There are no data available for 1912. One-fourth, approximately, of the rejected applications and
proofs are appealed.
* Includes original, final, and rejected entries.
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DEPOSITING PUBLIC MONEYS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Depositing public moneys,”
and the appropriation is $1,000 and your estimate is $1,000. That is
to pay the exchange?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; where there is not a depository convenient
to the land office. ..
DEPREDATIONS ON PUBLIC TIMBER, PROTECTING PUBLIC LANDs, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Depredations on public tim-
ber, protecting public lands, and settlement of claims for swamp
land and Swamp-land indemnity,” and the appropriation is $475,000
and you are asking for $500,000. What is the situation?
Mr. TALLMAN. The appropriation for this purpose, as you will
notice, was $500,000 for 1913 and for 1914, and $475,000 for 1915.
This reduction was made without any decrease in the necessity for
this appropriation, in my judgment. I think perhaps that $25,000
reduction was made by the committee last year for the reason that
there is a provision here to the effect that a portion of this $500,000
may be used to cover the expenses of hearings. I think the amount
in the former appropriation bill was $25,000. We also have a
specific appropriation for the expenses of hearings which we use
first. We were able during the year to pay the expenses of the hear-
ings out of the special appropriation for that purpose and not draw
on this $500,000, wherefore we were able to use the whole $500,000
for the regular work of this branch of the service. I have been
unable the past year to get this work up where I should like to have
it. There were pending in the field for investigation at the begin-
ning of the last fiscal year something over 22,000 cases. We were
able to reduce that number at the end of the fiscal year to a little
over 17,000 in the field for investigation, with about the same amount
of new business going to the field. That shows that we are able to
improve the situation, but it still means an arrearage in field in-
vestigation of land entries of six months or better. That is, I think,
too long. I believe we need the full $500,000 for the present. We
have in addition over 700 suits pending in the Department of Justice
for which our field force has furnished the evidence, appears at
the trial, and assists in presenting the evidence. We also have some-
thing over 700 land-office hearings pending in addition to the court
Ca,SéS. -
Mr. GILLETT: What cases are they ; fraudulent entries?
Mr. TALLMAN. The court cases are largely alleged fraudulent land
entries. About 175 are cases of trespassing on the public land.
Mr. GILLETT. Trespassing and depredation?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; about 500 cases are to cancel fraudulent
patents. There are 38 suits to abate unlawful inclosures, 20 suits
involving rights of way, and we have over 250 indictments pending
that have to be tried, besides the 17,000 ordinary cases of investiga-
tion. That takes up the time of our men. I might say that the re-
sults we have obtained from this force during the past year have been
fairly satisfactory, on the whole, and we have caught up, with the
work somewhat. We would very much like to have the full $500,000
for the work, as I think it is very much meeded. We are also con-
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 635
ducting very extensive investigations in connection with some large
trespass and alleged fraudulent suits in connection with the oil lands
in California. It takes a good deal of the time of our men and a
good deal of our appropriation to pay for that.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Commissioner, has there been any change in
the methods or policies hitherto followed in connection with these
alleged offenses against the laws to protect the public lands?
Mr. TALLMAN. I do not know. g
The CHAIRMAN. There was some complaint that it was impossible
to get any action at all on these cases, that they were just held up
and no one would move because everyone was under suspicion.
Mr. TALLMAN. On the part of the Government or on the part of
the people who had made the complaints?
The CHAIRMAN. The complaint was that the attitude of the Gov-
ernment was such that everybody was under suspicion and that noth-
ing could be done. . l -
Mr. TALLMAN. I do not think there is any justification for that.
It is true that that was more or less of an issue in the West in cer-
tain quarters some years ago pretty generally. We are reducing the
complaints about these fences and we have them pretty well removed.
Our practice at present is to treat the people as fairly as we can.
We do not get into court unless it is an aggravated case and we can
not get the fence removed without going into court. If it is an un-
lawful fence, unless it is a large and aggravated case—that is, evi-
dently contrary to the law—we invariably serve notice on the party
responsible and tell him it has to be removed and give him a fair
opportunity to remove it. Then, if he does not do that we recom-
mend to the Department of Justice that a suit be brought. Gener-
ally speaking, it is a matter that ought to be looked after in the range
country, because in the absence of diligence in looking after thes
matters unlawful inclosures will spring up without doubt. -
CLERICAL SERVICES.
. The CHAIRMAN. You use part of this appropriation for clerical
services?
Mr. TALLMAN. Fifteen thousand dollars; yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. This language is misleading.
Mr. TALLMAN. There is no doubt that it is misleading. -
The CHAIRMAN. That provision was inserted with the understand-
ing that in a couple of years it would not be needed. +
Mr. TALLMAN. Mr. Chairman, I look at that this way: We have
to-day a good deal of work in connection with these investigations
in the West. We have what we call a field-service division. This
$15,000 does not begin to cover the expenses of the work done by the
regular employees. I think we need the $15,000. It does not make
much difference whether it is classified as bringing up the work and
making it current or as a regular expense.
The CHAIRMAN. It is not all spent for clerical Services; you em-
ploy law examiners and attorneys as well as clerks? -
Mr. TALLMAN. Well, I would class the whole business as clerical
work in our office; it is passing on cases. We get reports from all
our field men in the West, they all come to our office, but no action
636 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
is taken, charge preferred, or suit started until those reports are gone
over and approved or rejected.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice that you have one special assistant at-
torney at $720?
Mr. TALLMAN. That gentleman is detailed to the office of the
Secretary; he works in the office of the Secretary.
M; GILLETT. It is because he is not good for much or is an old
ITQ3,1] :
Mr. TALLMAN. No, sir; he is a young employee, just out of col-
lege, reputed to have a good deal of ability. He wanted to work on
big legal problems of some kind, so I understand, and was not par-
ticular about the money he received, but wanted the experience. So
we put him on this roll and detailed him to the Secretary’s office
and he works there.
Mr. GILLETT. I thought you could not detail from the field force
to the Washington office?
Mr. TALLMAN. We can under this $15,000 appropriation; there is
a special provision.
EXPEN SES OF FIEARINGS IN ENTRIES.
[See p. 638.]
The CHAIRMAN. You are also authorized to use $10,000 out of this
appropriation for the expenses of hearings held by order of the
Commissioner of the General Dand Office to determine whether
alleged fraudulent entries are of that character or have been made in
compliance with the law. That is money in addition to the specific
appropriation for that purpose?
Mr. TALLMAN. We did not use any of that, I believe, last year.
The necessity for that is this: If you will look a little further ahead
you will find an apropriation “Hearings in land entries,” with an
estimate attached, of $35,000. That amount has been appropriated
for several years. That $35,000 covered the expenses of those hear-
ings last year. We can not tell in advance, however, how heavy those
expenses will run, and we inserted the $10,000 at this time largely
as a matter of precaution so that we would not run out of money.
The CHAIRMAN. This provision was made at the time when it was
expected that there would be a great many additional hearings and
this appropriation was increased to $1,000,000?
Mr. TALLMAN, We did more work last year, I am informed, with
$500,000 than they did that year with $1,000,000, and very much
better.
The CHAIRMAN. Congress has always appropriated the money re-
quired to report these hearings. We would like to keep that ap-
propriation separate. If you used the $10,000 the last year or two
we would rather make whatever provision is necessary in the Specific
item, and if there was not enough appropriated at any time you
could estimate for a deficiency.
Mr. TALLMAN. In 1914 those hearings cost a little over $27,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How are you running this year? -
Mr. TALLMAN. I have not the figures. I was advised a few weeks
ago that the hearings would cost us in the neighborhood of $35,000
this year, but I am not sure about those figures.
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The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation is $35,000?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; and that will probably cover it.
The CHAIRMAN. We prefer to get this appropriation narrowed to
what it really was intended for.
Mr. TALLMAN. I think it is advisable to either add to the $35,000
or give us the $10,000. We want a little reasonable leeway.
PROTECTION OF LANDS INVOLVED IN OREGON & CALIFORNIA RAILROAD
IFORFEITURE SUIT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item, “For the protection of lands in-
volved in Oregon and California Railroad forfeiture suit,” and the
appropriation is $25,000 and your estimate is $25,000. Is this the
case in which the United States succeeded in the litigation and where
#. provision had been made for the protection of the lands against
II'êS 9
Mr. TALLMAN. The same case that we brought to your attention at
the time you were making up the bill a year ago.
The CHAIRMAN. The Government succeeded?
Mr. TALLMAN. In the lower court.
The CHAIRMAN. And the decree was entered?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the result?
Mr. TALLMAN. The only change in the status that I know of, if
any, is that the Circuit Court of Appeals has certified some questions
involved in the case to the Supreme Court.
The CHAIRMAN. Did that court pass on those questions?
Mr. TALLMAN. I do not know that they did. The matter is still
pending in the courts.
The CHAIRMAN. What was done? This provision was so framed
that either the Interior Department or the Agricultural Department
could look after the situation?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir. We turned the $25,000 over to the Agri-
cultural Department, almost all of it.
The CHAIRMAN. You turned over $15,000?
Mr. TALLMAN. We turned over $15,000 immediately, and only a
few days ago we turned over the other $10,000. I think there were
a few little items for which money was spent, but the major portion
of the $25,000 has now gone to the Department of Agriculture.
They have handled the fire protection in conjunction with their work
and in cooperation with the State governments and various State fire-
protection associations.
The CHAIRMAN. The money has been actually spent by the Agri-
cultural Department?
Mr. TALLMAN. $15,000 has been spent. They claim to have gotten
very good results. I had a report from the Department of Agri-
culture. Their men reported that they had succeeded in putting out
a great many fires. Over 500 fires were put out in that region dur-
ing the past season, and that they held the damage down pretty well,
though admitting that there had been probably $10,000 worth of
timber destroyed during the past Season.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know how much timber is involved in this
tract?
638 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. TALLMAN. It is variously estimated. The Gract consists of
odd sections along the line of the Oregon & California Railroad,
extending from the northern boundary of Oregon to the Southern
boundary. It contains about 2,300,000 acres. It is odd sections.
About 1,800,000 acres are supposed to be covered with good timber.
The amount of that is variously estimated around 75,000,000,000
feet and the value is estimated at anywhere from $50,000,000 to
$100,000,000. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. The loss amounted to about $10,000?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir. The department seemed to feel gratified
that they had held it down to that amount, as the season was bad for
fires. -
FIEARINGS IN LAND ENTRIES.
[See p. 636.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Hearings in land entries,” and
the appropriation is $35,000 and your estimate is $35,000. In 1914
you expended $27,243.35% -
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir. - t
The CHAIRMAN. This appropriation is used only to pay Witness
fees, depositions, and transportation of witnesses?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; and the cost of taking the testimony.
FEES. FOR TAKING DEPOSITIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to insert in this paragraph: “Pro-
wided, That where depositions are taken for use in such hearings the
fees of the officer taking them shall be 20 cents per folio for taking
and certifying same and 10 cents per folio for each copy furnished to
a party on request’ ” s
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir. The purpose of that is to procure uni-
formity of charges. • -
The CHAIRMAN. What do they charge now % -
Mr. TALLMAN. It is not regulated. There is a great deal of con-
fusion. At present where there is a State law providing the rate that
rate controls. It varies in every State. In some cases where they
have no fee law of that kind it reverts to the Federal act which pro-
vides only 10 cents for taking and reproducing, which is insufficient.
We can not get people to do the work for that. The purpose of this
language is to fix a rate which seems to be fair and have it uniform
throughout all our cases.
The CHAIRMAN. At this rate, what would it average?
Mr. TALLMAN. Probably about the same that we are paying.
Twenty cents is lower than we pay in Some States and higher than
we pay in some others. It ranges all the way from 15 to 25 and 30
cents per folio. r
REPRODUCING PLATS OF SURVEYs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Reproducing plats of surveys,”
and the appropriation is $5,000 and the estimate is $5,000. This is
to reproduce plats that have become worn and unserviceable? . .
Mr. TALLMAN. Not altogether, ‘. . . . ; ; ;
The CHAIRMAN. And to supply copies of plats?
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Mr. TALLMAN. Both. That could very well be increased without
any harm, but I will not now ask for more than the estimate. The
Survey Work is increasing and the office work is increasing. We used
about half of that fund last year to make new plats and about half
for the reproduction of old plats. At the present time after a sur-
vey is made a plat of it is made in the office of the surveyor general,
and One copy, the original, is sent here and we have two photo-
lithographic copies made on heavy paper for official use, and then
the copies for sale and distribution. That costs us $3.60 for each
one of those editions. We will have a marked increase in the number
of new plats to make. The new plats will probably run up to six
or seven hundred township plats for the coming year. That will
cost in round numbers about half of the $5,000, and with the rest we
will make editions of old plats, 20 each. We sell them at 25 cents
each to the public and give them to other bureaus that require them.
Those sales brought in about $3,000 last year. We had about 300
requests in three months—that we kept a record of—for copies of
old plats that we could not supply. If we had a little more money
to make copies of the old plats it would probably be reimbursed from
additional sales.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have this work done by contract or do you
do it yourselves?
Mr. TALLMAN. The work is done by the Geological Survey.
Mr. MoRDELL. How many requests did vou say you had last year
for copies of maps which you had photolithographed ?
Mr. TALLMAN. We checked up the record for three months, and
during the months of October, November, and December, 1914, we
had 3,000 requests for plats, all the way from one to many, and out
of those there were about 300 requests that we did not have the plats
to supply. *
Mr. MoRDELL. Out of the 3,000 you were about 300 short?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; about 100 a month.
Mr. MoRDELL. At least half of this estimate will be necessary to
keep up with the new work? |
Mr. TALLMAN. It looks that way now. We are making 600 maps
and without doubt we will have more to make next year.
RESTORATION OF LANDS IN FOREST RESERVES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Restoration of lands in forest
reserves,” and the appropriation is $15,000 and your estimate is
$15,000. Do you have many of these restorations now %
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; a great many. That appropriation pays
for two classes of restorations, the large restoration where a con-
siderable area is eliminated from the forest and the restoration of
specific tracts under the act of June 11, 1906, for homestead entries.
They are running close to 200 a month at the present time under the
act of June 11, 1906. If I were making the estimate now of what
we wanted next year I would make it more than $15,000, and I have
the honor to suggest the advisability of the $15,000 being increased.
The CHAIRMAN. We can not do that.
Mr. TALLMAN. We will run short.
The CHAIRMAN. Of course, this is an item in which you can create
a deficiency under the law if it is not sufficient.
640 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. TALLMAN. We could simply stop eliminating until we got
Some more money. +
The CHAIRMAN. No: you could go on advertising and come in
afterwards. You do not expect to use more than $15,000 between
now and the next session of Congress?
Mr. TALLMAN. No, sir. * * h
Mr. MoRDELL. How much of the appropriation for this year still
remains unexpended ?
Mr. TALLMAN. We have expended $7,400. We have 500 lists on
hand for elimination and we will probably get before the end of the
year 1,200 more. At the present time it looks as if we would have a
deficit of close to $2,000 in the appropriation. Those lists come
from the Department of Agriculture. We can not tell exactly, but
the way they are running now we will probably run $2,000 short on
the $15,000. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Is it not true that the Forest Service just now and
for some little time to come will be acting on many restorations, not
only those applied for by settlers but they themselves are working
on a certain class of restorations?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir. I understand we are going to have some
more fairly good sized ones. The cost of the big eliminations is
comparatively small. Last year We expended only about $500 on
these large lists and the balance of our appropriation was nearly
all spent on the 'small ones.
EXPENSES OI!' OPENING INDIAN RESERVATIONS.
*
The CHAIRMAN. Opening Indian reservations; for expenses per-
taining to the opening to entry and settlement of such Indian reserva-
tion lands as may be opened during the fiscal year 1916, etc., the
appropriation for the current year is $15,000, and your estimate is
$15,000. Are you opening any reservations during the current year?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes; we have a number which are liable to be opened
during the balance of this year or next year. There are a number of .
reservations, some of them practically ready for opening and others
will be ready in a short time.
CLEREQ HIRE,
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to be permitted to expend $3,000
for clerk hire and other expenses in the General Land Office at the
seat of Government. Why is that?
Mr. TALLMAN. That is for the reason, in the first place, the comp-
troller has held we can not expend any of that money under the
existing language of the appropriation for clerk hire in Washington.
The usual method of handling these reservations is for Congress to
pass a law confirming a treaty with the Indians, generally to the
effect that certain lands will be allotted, and then certain lands Will
be classified and various things will be done, and then the lands Will
be turned over to the Land Department to be disposed of. After
those changes have taken place it is necessary for us in the General
Land Office to go over the tract books of that whole body of land and
check up everything that has been done, make up lists and make up.
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maps. For illustration, I have brought down a copy of a map we
made last year, if you care to look at it.
The CHAIRMAN. What is this?
Mr. TALLMAN. That is a map showing the lands that were opened
to entry in Fort Peck when we opened it. Now the Indian Office had
made its allotments of timberland and agricultural land, etc., to the
Indians and reserved irrigable lands, and the Geological Survey
picked out the mineral land. All those changes have been listed over
to us piecemeal. Now, before we could put this land on the market,
So We could show the people what land we had to offer, it was neces-
sary to check up all these tracts in the tract book and on the plats
and make up a map from practically original sources of the land we
had to offer. We have to do all of that work here and that work, in-
stead of being paid for out of Indian moneys, is paid for, under the
present holding of the comptroller, out of the regular appropriation.
This land was classified and appraised, and these colors indicate the
price at which it will be sold, So when the prospective purchaser at
the land opening gets one of the maps he has the whole information
before him.
The CHAIRMAN. The object of this then is to put the cost of the
work on the Indian funds?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; I think they have been doing it before out
of this fund. -
The CHAIRMAN. When was this decision rendered?
Mr. TALLMAN. Within about a year. We had a case in our office
where the comptroller held up the salary of a clerk we had engaged
on this work. Now, it will take two or three clerks and draftsmen
on the tract books three months to get up the material to make up a
map like this one.
SURVEYING THE PUBLIC LANDS.
The CHAIRMAN. “For surveys and resurveys of public lands,” etc.,
the appropriation is $700,000 and your estimate is $700,000. What
is the situation with reference to this surveying and resurveying
Work? gº
Mr. TALLMAN. The work is progressing very satisfactorily. I had
the figures checked up to December 1, and for the last field season
We have made a better record than I think has ever been made before
in the amount accomplished and the cost. I think this is the fourth
season we have worked under this system.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you given any attention to the volume of
work done under the old system and the present system'
Mr. TALLMAN. In the way of comparing the cost?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. TALLMAN. A great deal of attention.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the resultº
Mr. TALLMAN. Generally speaking, there is no doubt in my mind
but what the present system is more economical and more efficient
and produces better results. For instance, during the past field sea-
son we surveyed over 14,000,000 acres of public land, outside of rail-
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road land grants and excluding resurveys, at a cost of $10.09 a mile,
or about 3.6 cents per acre. The cost of the railroad surveys was
higher because in an extremely rough country. w
The CHAIRMAN. Do you mean square miles or linear miles?
Mr. TALLMAN. Linear miles. The average cost for the last three
years, under which they operated the contract system, was $15.50 a
mile. We do better work, we put down better corners, and we are
relieved of the continuous disputes over contracts and the execution
of contracts.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any complaints about accuracy,
similar to those that arose under the old system :
Mr. TALLMAN. Some; not so much as to the accuracy of the work
done. We have no complaints whatever except in the case of resur-
veys that are allowed under the statute. A resurvey is always a
Source of trouble. It is a source of trouble if we do not make it
and it is a source of trouble if we do make it. Our total record last
summer for surveys of all classes was over 18,200,000 acres. We
surveyed over 1,896,000 acres of lands in railroad land grants last
year. -
Mr. MoRDELL. How long will it take you to finish up the land
grants at that rate? -
Mr. TALLMAN. At the rate we will go next summer and from now
on, there will not be much left after two more seasons.
The CHAIRMAN. After this year?
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes; this year and next. We will take the body
of it this coming season, unless something intervenes to prevent.
If I may make a suggestion right here, Mr. Chairman, there is one
amendment I wish the committee would make to this appropriation
which I consider very necessary and which will facilitate our work
very materially. After the amount of the appropriation, fourth line,
just before the proviso, insert these words: “ of which $100,000 shall
be immediately available.”
That is for the reason that the end of the fiscal year is right in the
middle of our surveying Season. We have a large organization in
full operation at that time and it is almost impossible to get the
benefit of the appropriation and carry this large organization with-
out curtailing it right at the time when it should be going the best.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? -
Mr. TALLMAN. Because we can not estimate just how we are going
to come out. These expenses are uncertain. We estimate it as
closely as we can; but we have in the middle of the season 200 sur:
veyors and fltogether a field force of surveyors and, assistants of
probably 1,000 people. They are distributed from Alaska to Florida.
The CHAIRMAN. That is a very large percentage of your appropri-
ation to cover a hiatus that might exist; that is one-seventh of the
entire appropriation.
Mr. TALLMAN. I know that. I am not particular about the exact
amount. I do not see any reason why the amount should be cut, but
probably $50,000 would cover it. It all has to be done, and it all has
to be paid for, and it does not cost any more one time or another.
The CHAIRMAN. We are trying to preserve the fiscal year.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 643
Mr. TALLMAN. I think we will preserve it pretty close, but with
the work we are handling our people have had difficulty in the fear
they will run over an appropriation and somebody will come up
without any money. If you do not agree to the $100,000, I would
like some amount which is reasonable inserted there to cover that
hiatus.
- DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
GENERAL LAND OFFICE,
W(tShington, January 16, 1915.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on App?'Opriations, House of Representatives.
MY DEAR MR. FITZGERALD : In response to your verbal request that I furnish
you with an estimate of the amount of the appropriation “Surveying the public
lands, 1916,” that if made available on the passage of the bill would insure the
best use of the appropriation, I beg to advise that a careful estimate of the
surveys to be executed during the coming field Season, considered in connection
with average weather conditions in each field of operation and the funds on hand
available for Spring work, indicates that while my estimate when before your
committee on the 12th instant of $100,000 was intended to meet any possible
emergencies that might arise it is larger than WOuld be required under Ordinary
CircumstanceS. -
The most desirable part of the year for field work north of the thirty-seventh
parallel of north latitude is between May 1 and November 1, although in
favored localities the Season is longer, while in the higher mountains it is
limited to about three alld One-half months. The greater number of surveying
parties than can be placed in the field at the beginning of the season and kept
there COntinuously until the ClOSe, the greater the amount Of Surveys that can
be accomplished. The Surveys are planned With this end in view, but the
time required to execute a survey can never be accurately estimated before-
hand because Of unforeseen Complications in the Surveys, the physical character
of the country, weather conditions, and the fact that occasionally new settle-
ment in the vicinity renders advisable an extension of the surveys originally
planned, almſl therefore it not infrequently happens that because of these vari-
ous elements of uncertainty the Original estimate of the cost of a survey, based
on an estimated average time limit, may be too low. This would make no dif-
ference as far as immediate availability of a part of the appropriation is con-
cerned in the larger all-season surveys, but in the smaller isolated surveys,
(:Olmmenced early in the Spring, the COSt Of Which has exceeded the estinate,
which contemplated completion by, Say, June 1, the field work must be stopped,
and the party disbanded on or about that date, only to be reorganized and re-
turned to the field. On July 1 for, perhaps, only a few weeks’ Work. This is
expensive, and Causes that party to lose One of the best field months in the
year. The availability of a small portion of the appropriation for the next
fiscal year Would insure the COmpletion of Such Surveys at the minimum cost
and without loss of Valuable time. It also happens that some surveys cost less
than the estimate. This balance is used whenever possible to continue the work
On Surveys that are running Over the estimate, but in Alaska and in other
isolated districts in the States where facilities for communication are extremely
limited it is not practicable to make a reallotment of funds in the closing Weeks
of a fiscal year. -
I have therefore estimated from the best information obtainable at this time
that if $50,000 of the appropriation recommended be made available on the
passage of the bill, this office will be in a position to use the appropriation
to the best possible advantage. '
Very truly, yours,
CLAY TALLMAN, Commissioner.
SURVEY OF RAILROAD GRANT LANDS.
Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Commissioner, what progress have you made
with the continuing fund this year? There was a good deal of dis-
cussion last year as to the propriety of discontinuing the continuing
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fund for the Survey of railroad-land grant lands, but it was finally
deemed best not to do so, and you are continuing it. It was hoped
at that time that you would be able to turn that fund over more
rapidly and therefore get more out of it. How much of that fund
were you able to use in the fiscal year ending July 1 last?
Mr. TALLMAN. I can not tell you, Mr. Mondell, at that date, July 1.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much are you going to be able to utilize dur-
ing the present current year? *
Mr. TALLMAN. I can not tell you that, exactly; but during the
year—what we call our field year—11 months of it, from January 1
up to December 1, last, we had used in the neighborhood of $150,000
to $160,000 out of that fund.
Mr. MONDELL. How much more was that than you had used the
year before? -
Mr. TALLMAN. We surveyed 1,896,000 acres, and the most that had
been surveyed in any year before that was 600,000 acres, and we did
not get in full operation on that work until after we were sure that
that legislation was going to continue as it had been.
Mr. MoRDELL. You feel confident now that you will work under
that appropriation, so that you will continue those Surveys about as
rapidly as you are now executing them? f
Mr. TALLMAN. Yes, sir; we will do it more rapidly. You under-
stand on that work we threw as much of our force as we could into
the Northern States during the summer, and we will probably do
considerable work in the Southern States this winter. We will be
doing a good deal of that work this winter. I might Say I have
$51,000 available right now for railroad surveys.
Mr. MoRDELL. As I recall, there are about 8,000,000 acres of the
land-grant lands remaining unsurveyed?
Mr. TALLMAN. About 8,000,000 acres.
Mr. MoRDELL. So that at the rate you are now going you ought
to complete those in the mext five years?
Mr. TALLMAN. Oh, yes; less than five years if we can keep it up at
this rate.
SURVEY, ETC., ABANDONED RESERVATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. Abandoned reservations: “For necessary expenses
of survey, appraisal, and sale of abandoned military reservations
transferred to the control of the Secretary of the Interior, etc.,
$10,000.” Have you any of these military reservations now?
Mr. TALLMAN. We have some that are in a state of suspension.
Fort Assiniboine is ready for action. There is legislation pending
on that which has passed the Senate and we have been urged to
withhold action on Fort Assiniboine until an opportunity is given
to get that legislation acted upon. If that is not passed we will have
that reservation to dispose of. We also have Fort Sabine, down in
Eouisiana, of about 17,000 acres to handle, and two forts in Texas—
Ringgold and Brown—and a large number of small posts that we
are informally advised are liable to be turned over to us. However,
the principal things we have in hand at present are the two forts in
Texas–Fort Assiniboine and Fort Sabine—of which Fort Assini-
boine is by far the most important, containing about 170,000 acres.
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TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1915.
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. -
STATEMENT OF MR. GEORGE offs SMITH, DIRECTOR.
DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.
The CHAIRMAN. For the office of the director the current appro-
priation is $35,340 and your estimate is $35,340. Do you need all
of these employees?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir.
GENERAL EXPENSES.
BER DIEM IN LIEU OF STUBSISTEN CE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is for general expenses under the
various headings. You ask us to modify the language in the gen-
eral heading. You ask this new language:
Including personal services in the District of Columbia and in the field, a
per diem in lieu of subsistence of not exceeding $4 for employees engaged in
field work or traveling On Official business Outside of the District of Columbia
and away from their designated headquarters, to be fixed by the Secretary of
the Interior.
Mr. CourTs. That is pursuant to the provision of last year.
MOTOR-PROPELLED AND E[ORSE-DRAWN WEHICLES.
The CHAIRMAN. How many motor-propelled passenger carrying
vehicles have you purchased ?
Mr. SMITH. We have authority this year to purchase four.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you purchased the four ! . -
Mr. SMITH. We have purchased two so far out of this appropria-
tion. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to increase this provision from 16 to 20
horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicles. Why is that?
Mr. SMITH. That is supposed to be about the ordinary require-
ments of our field service. We have a large number in that service.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have you?
Mr. SMITH. Eighty-nine. The list describing 84 was put in these
hearings last year, page 867. We have purchased so far this year 5;
we have authority to purchase 16t
PAY OF SIKILLED LABORERS AND OTHER EMIPLOYEES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For pay of skilled laborers and
various temporary employees, $20,000.” That is the amount of the
current appropriation. They are employed here in Washington,
are they not? - - *
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir. The list is submitted as taken from the July
pay roll. They are employed here in Washington.
646 . SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
TOPOGRAPHIC surveys.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For topographic surveys in
various portions of the United States, one-half to be immediately
available, $350,000.” That is the amount of the current appropria-
tion. What are you doing in that line? -
Mr. SMITH. We are continuing the work all over the country.
There is no change in the plan. It is asked again to have this one-
half made immediately available. That is asked simply to make it
So that July the 1st will not have to be the division point between
two years. Of course in our field work the calendar year would be
a great advantage as regards economical administration. If some
part of it—one-half or a quarter would be just as good for our pur-
poses—were made immediately available, it would enable us to start
some pieces of work before the new fiscal year begins. It is not to
avoid or cover up any impending deficit. This same authority, I
believe, was given one year. It was done two years ago. The re-
quests and demands that come into us for topographic work have,
of course, increased, but there is no change in the estimate from the
amount appropriated last year.
Mr. SHERLEY. Where do you expect to do that work next year?
Mr. SMITH. The best index of that is where we are doing it now.
We are trying to distribute that all over the country. As regards
the division between the Eastern States and Western public-land
States, the percentage the present year is 47 for the Eastern States
and 53 for the Western public-land States, which is the same as it
was the year before. That field work is divided among five geo-
graphic divisions of the country, namely, the Atlantic, Central,
Rocky Mountain, Northwestern, and Pacific. The three last-named
divisions are in the public-land States, and to each of these there is
allotted about $50,000 for field work. The requests on file for topo-
graphic surveys are sufficient to make it possible to expend prac-
tically the whole appropriation in any one of Several States.
Mr. SHERLEY. When will you finish it?
Mr. SMITH. We are finishing some States gradually. Ohio is
nearly completed, and that is largely because Ohio has been con-
tributing such a large amount of State money. The total for the
whole United States is 39.6 per cent completed.
Mr. SHERLEY. You have been doing this work how long?
Mr. SMITH. This survey is 35 years old. Of course this appropri-
ation for topographic work has not been made throughout that whole
35 years, although some of the work was begun 35 years ago.
Mr. SHERLEY. At the present rate of appropriation, how long be-
fore it will be completed? t
Mr. SMITH. It would be not less than 50 years.
The CHAIRMAN. According to the detailed statement in these esti-
mates on page 352, the salaries and wages estimated for 1916 amount
to $240,382.50, and then the statement of the total shows $274,724.
Mr. SMITH. Possibly a note should have been added there explain-
ing that. There are certain numbers of these field men, topograph-
ers, engineers, etc., that are put on State rolls under the cooperative
work for a certain part of the year, and in making up that list
it would be impossible to state just how much of their time Would
be on State rolls. Thus in this list the itemized estimates exceed in
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 647
amount the lump sum given in the preceding statement. That
$240,000 is based upon the actual expenditures of 1914, with certain
tº djustments where we know of them; but when in making up the
1916 estimates it comes to taking each man and giving his salary, it
is impossible to Say which ones will be nine months on the Federal
roll and three months on some State roll. That can not be antici-
pated. It means that approximately $34,000 of the salaries would be
paid from this, or that State roll. These field men are furloughed
from time to time and are paid by States. That is a detail in the
administration of the cooperative work.
GEOILOGIC SU RVEY'S OTITSIDE OF NATION AL FOREST.S.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For geologic surveys in the
various portions of the United States, one-half to be immediately
available, $400,000.” That is the amount of the current appropria-
tion. What is being done under this appropriation?
Mr. SMITH. The plans for this year are largely like the plans for
the preceding year. The work is being prosecuted throughout the
larger part of the country, with about 68 per cent of the money
being expended in the public-land States, which is a slight increase
over the preceding year, when it was 67 per cent, and 1913, when it
was between 60 and 61 per cent. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the work being done?
Mr. SMITH. Last year the work was done in practically every State
in the Union. I can mention some of the larger items of work in
any State or in all of the States. We made an investigation of iron
ores in Alabama, an examination of mining camps in Arizona, an
oil reconnoissance in Arkansas, we did oil work and precious-metal
work in California, we made an examination of the Creede mining
district in Colorado, and studies of the oil shales and radium de-
posits in Colorado. We did a small amount of geological study in
Delaware. - ºf Q
The CHAIRMAN. What was the character of that study?
Mr. SMITH. There is some slight chance of oil there. There is
some very slight indication of oil, and we are keeping in touch with
that and aiding in it as far as we can. The amount expended is
only a few hundred dollars, by reason of its nearness to Washing-
ton. In Florida the work is the classification of phosphate lands.
Florida being to a small extent a public-land State, we had some
lands withdrawn there on account of their supposed phosphate chal'-
acter. In Georgia the work is a study of iron-ore deposits and
coastal-plain geology, which relates, of course, to the Water re-
sources. In Idaho it is mining camps, phosphate lands, and placer
deposits. In Illinois we cooperate with the State in geological
studies of oil and coal areas. In Iowa and Indiana some mapping
is in progress. In Kentucky we are, in cooperation with the State
survey, studying the geology of Jefferson County. That was the
area selected by the State geologist, and it came up to me as his rec-
ommendation, with a request for our cooperation, and I understand
he is well satisfied with the Work thus far done this year.
The Cir.AIRMAN. What are they doing in Jefferson County'
Mr. SMITH, I do not know the geology of Jefferson County.
648 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. What is there for the United States to do in
Jefferson County, ISy.” -
Mr. SMITH. From the standpoint of the United States Geological
Survey, the only reason why the State geologist wanted our coopera-
tion may have been the fact that we had done some Work in adjoining
or near-by regions in Ohio or Indiana, and I am not sure but what we
are doing Some work up there.
The CHAIRMAN. What is there to do in a place like that ?
Mr. SMITH. This work is to find out the resources in clay, limestone, .
building Stone, and possible oil shales. The oil work that we have
done in Kentucky lies directly to the south, and, as I remember, just
across the line from Jefferson County. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I never heard anything about this until recently, and
the only explanation I can make of it is that there have been from
time to time discoveries of gas in limited quantities, barely sufficient
to commercially pay, just across the Salt River from Jefferson
County. There was quite a gas field in Meade County from which
gas was pumped into Louisville for a while.
Mr. SMITH. We had already done some Work down there earlier.
In IQansas, of course, we have zinc and lead deposits, and in Louis-
jana we are doing considerable Work in oil and gas reconnoissances.
Louisiana has come to the front as an oil State, and we are trying to
trace the extension of the oil areas across Louisiana and possibly into
Mississippi. There are indications there of structure favorable for
oil and gas accumulation. The oil and gas Work has been rather
specialized on, not only in Louisiana, but extending up into Okla-
homa and across into Texas. That is the general region that is most
promising for investigation, and that is where we have probably
made the largest extension of our work this past year. In Maine,
Massachusetts, Maryland, and Michigan general work is being con-
tinued. In Minnesota, we have begun some cooperative work with the
State on the iron ore deposits of the Cayuna Range. The iron ore
districts of the Lake Superior region were studied earlier, as well as
those of Michigan, Wisconsin, and eastern Minnesota, and this is the
remaining district, or the Cayuna Range, which has not yet been
studied. In Missouri the work is continuing in connection with the
zinc and lead deposits, and in the coal fields of Missouri there is some
work being done in cooperation with the State. The Mississippi
work has been mentioned. In Montana coal classification work, es-
pecially in the eastern part of the State, continues. That is the classi-
fication of public coal lands. In Nevada, the metalliferous Work, es-
pecially in the mining district of Yerington, is carried on, and there
was also a search for potash in the Black Rock Desert, and also in Car-
son Sink. In New Mexico we have coal land classification and work in
the Santa Rita mining district. In North Dakota. We have work in
the Cannon Ball lignitic coal field, in the southwestern part of the
State. In Ohio we are working on oil and gas areas. In Oklahoma
we are doing some detailed geological work in the oil areas, and also,
as I stated before, we are extending our reconnoissance Work on Oil
and gas. In Oregon we have coal land work, and are completing
some cooperative geologic work with the State. In Pennsylvania,
as in other States in the western part of the Appalachian area, there
has been a study of the black shales having possible oil values. In
South Dakota some work in the Black Hills is being completed; in
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 649
Tennessee, investigation of the iron ores and marbles; in Texas, be-
side the reconnoissance oil and gas surveys mentioned, there is an in-
vestigation of iron ore deposits; in Utah, coal classification, metallif-
erous ores, phosphate, oil shales, and radium minerals are all under
investigation; in Virginia, cooperative mapping in the southwest
coal field; completion of geologic work in northern Wisconsin; and
in Wyoming reconnoissance of mining districts and the coal and oil
land classification.
MIN ERAL RESOURCES OF ALASKA.
The C11AIRMAN. The next item is “For continuation of the in-
vestigation of the mineral resources of Alaska, to be immediately
available, $100,000.” That is the amount of the current appro-
priation. -
Mr. SMITH. There is no change of policy contemplated, but the
purpose is simply to extend the pioneering work into regions that
are not at all known and to continue the mapping of the regions of
which we know something. At the same time it is the purpose to
continue the detailed study of the more important mining districts.
I have before me the plans of the work for the coming year, which
aggregates for all the projects $128,000. The field expenses will be
somewhat larger up there on account of the influence of the war on
the price of horses. I mentioned last year, and I would like to men-
tion again the fact that the general limitation of $5 on subsistence
expenses involves the payment by many of the Alaska men of a part
of their expenses out of their own pockets. The cost of three meals
and lodging at a large number of road houses up there exceeds $5.
One of the geologists had items aggregating $22 disallowed by
reason of the fact that for several days his daily expenses exceeded
the $5. It seems to some of us hardly fair to put the Alaskan man
on the same basis as the man who is traveling here in the States.
These prices are schedule prices. They do not represent extrava-
gances, but just simply paying the regular fixed rates. It comes
especially hard on a man who is receiving $2.50 or $3 a day, as a
temporary assistant, to be forced to pay out of his pocket $1 or $1.50
or even $2 for the excess of his expenses over $5. On the regular
route between Valdez and Fairbanks there is one place where the
day would amount to $8, $2 a meal and $2 for lodging. -
CITEMICAL AND PEIYSICAL RESEARCHES RELATING TO GEOLOGY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For chemical and physical
researches relating to the geology of the United States,” etc., and the
appropriation is $40,000 and your estimate is $40,000?
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; there is no change suggested or needed.
PREPARATIONS OF ILIUSTRATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For preparation of the illustra:
tions of the Geological Survey,” and the appropriation is $18,280
and your estimate is $18,280. What was the unexpended balance in
1914 &
650 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. SMITH. The unexpended balance in that appropriation as of
December 1 was $111.49. w
The CHAIRMAN. That is a permanent roll?
Mr. SMITH. Except in this case, which, I believe, was due to leave
without pay of one of the employees, if I remember correctly. it is
practically a Salary appropriation. - t
GAUGING STRIEAMS AND DETERMINING WATER SUPPLY.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For gauging streams and de-
termining the water supply of the United States,” etc., and the ap-
propriation is $150,000 and your estimate is $200,000.
Mr. SMITH. The $50,000 increase which has been asked for this
year is simply to bring up some of the arrears. The amount of this
appropriation of $150,000 which is available for field work is only
about $100,000—that is, after paying the expenses of computations
and other office work—so that if it were distributed all over the
country it would mean only about $2,000 to the State. However, by
far the largest part of this appropriation is expended in the public-
land States.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by “bringing up some of the
arrears ”?
Mr. SMITH. That has to do largely with our public-land work in
assisting in the administration of the public-land laws. We make
reports on applications of various sorts, right-of-way applications
that are made to the Land Office and are sent to us for report on
the amount of water available for definite purposes—this or that
purpose—in the stream from which the right of way is desired.
The CHAIRMAN. You use the expression “bringing up arrears”?
Mr. SMITH. The monthly report for December shows that the ap-
plications for reports of this kind continue to come in a little faster
than we are able to handle them. We increased our rate of output
materially over last year, and there has been almost a corresponding
increase in the rate at which these various applications and petitions
come to us for report. This refers not only to right-of-way applica-
tions but to enlarged homestead petitions and desert-land proof.
The embarassing fact is that the requests for information that go to
one side and accumulate are the ones that necessitate field examina-
tion, requiring an engineer of the force covered by this item going
into the field and making the examination in order to determine the
facts. The largest part of those arrears demand the examination
of such matters as steam-gauging records and hydraulic field de-
terminations that can be made only by an engineer of that type.
During the month of December we gained about 400 on this class
of work. That is, we turned out about 400 reports more than appli-
cations came in, but the current month’s report before me shows that
we are on the average about nine months in arrears on that line of
work.
PURCHASE OF BOOKS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For purchase of necessary
books for the library,” etc., and the appropriation is $2,000, and
your estimate is $2,000.
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; no change.
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JENGRAVING AND PRINTING GEOLOGIC MAPS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For Engraving and printing
geologic maps,” and the appropriation is $110,000, and you are ask-
ing for $110,000?
Mr. SMITH. That appropriation, of course, brings some income.
About $28,000 comes into the Treasury from that appropriation
from the sale of maps. * .
TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEYS OF PUBLIC LANDS DESIGNATED As NATIONAL
FORESTS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For continuation of topo-
graphic Surveys of the public lands that have been or may hereafter
be designated as national forests, one-half to be immediately avail-
able,” $75,000. How long will it take to complete that work?
Mr. SMITH, I will put in the hearing at this point the percentage
of the national forests that has been mapped. I have tried to do
that at various times in the past but it has not been easy by reason
of changes that are being constantly made in the boundaries, but at
the present time those changes are wholly in the way of reducing the
areas of the national forests, and so I think that I can furnish a
statement of the rate of progress and the area remaining.
e Square miles.
The areas in the national forests mapped to Dec. 31, 1914 124, 960
Area in the national forests unmapped to Dec. 31, 1914 91, 996
Total area of forests _* - ------------ 216, 956
Percentage of national forest area mapped------------------------- 58
Percentage of national forest area mapped each year (in last two or
three years)---------------------------------------------------- 13.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 14, 1915.
* BUREAU OF MINES.
STATEMENT OF MR. WAN. H. MANNING, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
GENERAL ExPENSES, INCLUDING OFFICE FORCE, ETC.—ILLUSTRATOR, EDITO-
RIAL ASSITANT, AND BIBLIOGRAPHER. *
The CHAIRMAN. For general expenses, including pay of the direc-
tor, etc., the appropriation is $70,000, and your estimate is $74,800.
Mr. MANNING. This is an increase of $4,800 over the present appro-
priation, and provides for the following three new employees: One
illustrator, $1,800; one editorial assistant at $1,500, and one bibliog-
rapher at $1,500. In justification of these three employees I might
say that the illustrations have long been one of the weakest features
of the Bureau of Mines publications. Well-prepared drawings and
photographs lessen the engraving charges and clarify the text of the
report, and they obviate long descriptions and are very desirable in
our publications. The purpose of this appropriation is to employ
an illustrator familiar with engraving processes.
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The CHAIRMAN. You have none now?
Mr. MANNING. No. - t
The CHAIRMAN. Then this illustrator is a new item'
Mr. MANNING. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. You have an editorial assistant at $1,740 and one
at $1,320, and you are asking for one at $1,500?
Mr. MANNING. Yes. .
The CHAIRMAN. You are also asking for a bibliographer at
$1,500? * ,
Mr. MANNING. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. The other positions mentioned here already exist?
Mr. MANNING. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Is the illustrator to be a photographer?
Mr. MANNING. He should be a draftsman who can make free-hand
drawings and is familiar with engraving processes, who can take a
photograph or drawing and touch it up or redraw it so that it can
be reproduced to best advantage at least expense. In other words,
when a mining engineer, for example, Submits a rough sketch it
will be turned over to this illustrator to prepare so that it will be
clear to the reader.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you do now? . -
Mr. MANNING. We have a draftsman who is employed on such .
work, but what we need is a draftsman who is familiar with en-
graving processes and can prepare drawings that will make better
illustrations.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does the present draftsman receive?
Mr. MANNING. The maximum salary we pay to any of our drafts-
men is $1,500 a year. . .
The CHAIRMAN. Out of what appropriation is he paid!
Mr. MANNING. Out of the appropriation for mine accidents.
The CHAIRMAN. You have two editorial assistants, and you are
asking for an additional one. What is the necessity for that addi-
tional position?
Mr. MANNING. The necessity for the employment of this assistant
is because our reports are increasing in number every year. For
example, in 1911 the total was 18; in 1912, 47; in 1913, 47; in 1914,
57; or a total of 169 publications, since the Bureau of Mines, was
created. The number for 1912, 47, included possibly 18 reprints;
the number of reports is steadily getting larger.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the character of these reports?
Mr. MANNINg. They cover the various activities of the bureau.
The most popular publications we get out are for the benefit of the
miners themselves, written in plain English and sent out in edi-
tions of anywhere from 10,000 to 100,000 or more, of a few pages.
There are also bulletins and technical papers dealing with more
technical subjects. g
The CHAIRMAN. What do these editorial assistants do?
Mr. MANNING. They edit the reports just as an editor would.
When a report comes in from an expert it is turned over to one of
these editorial assistants to be prepared for publication in conformity
with the regulations of the department and the Public Printing
Office, as to style and other details.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the bibliographer to do?
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Mr. MANNING. The bibliographer is to prepare bibliographies of
different subjects being investigated. For example, he may search
the literature on explosives, or first-aid work, or mining and metal-
lurgical methods. Of course, the expert conducting the investiga-
tion can do that, but it is evidently in the interest of economy to let
the investigator give his time to his technical or scientific work, and
have a cheaper employee assemble this material for him.
The CHAIRMAN. Why could not the librarian do that work?
Mr. MANNING. We only have one librarian at Pittsburgh, and his
time is taken up with the library work.
The CHAIRMAN. How extensive a library have you?
Mr. MANNING. I should say we have between five and six thou-
sand volumes. -
Mr. GILLETT. All technical works?
Mr. MANNING. Yes; nothing but technical or scientific books, in-
cluding, of course, under that designation the reports of State mine
inspector, and Government publications of a technical character.
The CHAIRMAN. The salaries aggregate $68,460.
Mr. MANNING. That is proposed for 1916. It is about 91 per cent
of the total appropriation. -
The CHAIRMAN. Now, does not that cover some increase of salaries?
Mr. MANNING. For 1916?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. MANNING. No, sir; I think not. Some increases for 1915
were recommended, but were not approved by the Secretary of the
Interior.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 the salaries aggregated $61,318.77.
Mr. MANNING. Or about 87 per cent of the total appropriation for
Salaries in 1914. -
The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation was the same in 1914, but
$7,000 less was expended in salaries than is proposed for 1916.
INVESTIGATION AS To CAUSES OF MINE EXPLOSIONs, MINE RESCUE, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The current appropriation for investigation as
to the causes of mine explosions, methods of mining, etc., is $347,000
and your estimate for 1916 is $347,000. &
Mr. MANNING. There is no increase submitted in that item.
The CHAIRMAN. The compensation of employees aggregates
$32,096. What is the balance?
Mr. MANNING. That $32,096 represents the employment of per-
sonal services in the District of Columbia.
The CHAIRMAN. And the other is for services outside of the Dis-
trict of Columbia.”
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the situation relative to the inves-
tigation of mine explosions during the past year?
Mr. MANNING.. I will submit a brief summary of the more impor-
tant work done during the year 1913–14, which will cover all of the
bureau’s activities. -
Through the study of coal-mine explosions and the work of the
experimental mine, four types of explosion-stopping devices, in
which rock dust is used, were developed, as follows: Box barriers,
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Concentrated barriers, ventilation-door barriers, and ventilation stop-
ping barriers. This was perhaps the most important mine-Safety
accomplishment of the year. - -
Tests were made to ascertain the inflow of inflammable gases in
different coal mines.
All of the serious and many of the lesser mine explosions and fires
were investigated, and Such assistance was rendered as could be given.
Tests were made to determine the inflammability of coal dust.
Mine-rescue training was given 2,826 miners, first-aid instruc-
tion and training to 5,780. At the end of the year the total of miners
trained by the bureau since its organization was 24,975.
Mine rescue breathing apparatus were improved through tests and
studies by the bureau. - -
First-aid and rescue training was extended in a few metal-mining
districts. - .
Bureau of Mines rescue crews recovered or brought to safety
seven miners. -
Mine-rescue and first-aid contests in cooperation with many or-
ganizations were held, as were field maneuvers for increasing the
efficiency of the bureau’s rescue corps. * †
Demonstrations were made of various types of safety and effi-
ciency apparatus and appliances.
Various types of mining explosives were studied, and demonstra-
tions of permissible explosives were made in various coal-mining
districts.
Preliminary information was collected regarding methods of using
props most effectively in mining coal. *
The safer use of electricity in and about mines was studied.
Recommendations were made regarding a metal-mining explosive
giving off a minimum amount of noxious gases.
Safety recommendations were made in connection with the driv-
ing of tunnels under bodies of water.
Valuable information on metal-mine ventilation was collected.
The injurious effects of rock dust in metal mines were studied.
Safety lamps were improved in part through studies of the bureau.
The subject of subsidence from coal-mining operations was in-
vestigated. -
The study of smelter fumes and gases was continued, and decided
advance was made.
Investigations were conducted on safety and efficiency in the treat-
ment of ores and minerals. s #
The study of the utilization of various low-grade ore deposits was
begun.
A study was made of sampling and assay methods. *
Metallurgical studies were conducted in connection with the safety
and efficiency of various operations.
Advance was made in the investigation of the carnotite deposits
of Colorado and Utah and the production of radium, uranium, and
vanadium from these ores. gº
Some advance was made in the treatment of tunsten and molyb-
denum ores. e
An investigation of building-stone deposits and quarry methods
was begun. - - -
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Reports on feldspar and on kaolin, fuller's earth, and other clays
or clay deposits were published or prepared for publication.
Savings in the cost of fuels purchased by the Government were
effected through the method of purchase under specifications.
The economies of the gas producer were studied. -
Peat and lignite were investigated with a view to their utilization
as low-grade fuels.
Advance was made in the determination of the factors governing
the clinkering of coal.
The origin and the constitution of coal were studied.
An expedition was made to the Matanuska coal fields, Alaska, for
the purpose of collecting coal to be tested for use by the Navy De-
partment. The mining of the coal was authorized by a specific ap-
propriation for the Navy Department, but the work was done by
the Bureau of Mines. -
Coal-mine Waste problems, in their relation to suitable, mining
methods, were studied. -
Investigations of mine gases and of natural gas were continued on
a large Scale.
More attention was given investigations relating to petroleum, and
much waste of natural gas was stopped or prevented.
The CHAIRMAN. How has the number of accidents last year com-
pared with the number in previous years?
Mr. MANNING. I will have to give you the comparison between the
years 1912 and 1913, because I have not the full data for 1914. You
see this is just at the beginning of 1915.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you go by calendar years?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. The deaths from accidents in 1912, per
thousand men employed, were 3.27, while in 1913 they were 3.73.
That shows an increase, but, as stated by the director before the com-
mittee last year, while that shows an increase in the total number of
fatalities yet there were fewer disasters—that is, accidents in which
five or more men were killed—than in 1912. One or two big explo-
sions will greatly increase the number of deaths and the death rate.
For example, the Dawson, N. Mex., explosion in 1913 killed 263 men.
Mr. GILLETT. You say the fatalities were 3.27.
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. -
Mr. GILLETT. When you say 3.27, do you mean 3.27 per cent?
Mr. MANNING. No, sir; 3.27 per thousand men employed. -
The CHAIRMAN. From what you know of the work during the past
'alendar year, are you able to state whether the number of accidents
is decreasing? - & - " .
Mr. MANNING. It has been decreasing according to the monthly
statements we have been giving out, but I have not those figures with
me. I could put that in the record up to December 1. We are getting
these statements out by the month for the moral effect they will have
on State mine inspectors and on operators with respect to the ac-
cidents occurring in their particular States. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you find that the operators now cooperate with
the bureau? -
Mr. MANNING. Without a single exception. We have had their
full and hearty cooperation in the collection of statistics. I would
like to call your attention to a statement I have here showing the
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Work in the various States in which the bureau is cooperating. As
explained by the director last year, we have had cooperation with the
State of Pennsylvania, which State appropriated $25,000 for prepa-
ration of specifications and plans for the new building for the ex-
periment station of the Bureau of Mines at Pittsburgh, Pa. Those
plans have been completed and have been approved by the Super-
vising Architect. These plans were donated by the State of Penn-
Sylvania, and bids will be advertised in the course of the next few
days for the building. We are also in cooperation with the State of
Pennsylvania, through its department of labor and industry, in blast
furnace and other metallurgical operations, with special reference to
the Safety of the men employed in metallurgical plants. w
We are cooperating with the State of Illinois in investigating the
explosibility of coal dusts, the occurrence of inflammable gas in
mines, and problems bearing on coal-mine explosions and increase
in Safety in coal mining.
We are cooperating with the State of Tennessee in the collection
of mine samples of coal and analysis of the same.
We are cooperating with the State of Missouri in an investigation
of the mining and treating of lead and zinc ores with reference to in-
creased safety, greater efficiency, and the lessening of waste.
We are cooperating with the State of Utah in investigations look-
ing to the recovery of values from low-grade and complex ores, and
in other investigations pertinent to the metallurgical industries of
Utah and other western States. - -
We are cooperating with the industrial accidents commission of
the State of California in the study of methods of mining with
special reference to the health and safety of miners.
We are cooperating with the State of New York in 18 charitable
institutions and 16 State hospitals, in the matter of fuel. The
Bureau of Mines acts as an umpire laboratory in the matter of fuels
purchased for those institutions, and other contracts protested are
submitted to our bureau for arbitration. They are purchasing coal
under the specification method, which method has been advanced
and developed by the Bureau of Mines.
MINE RESCUE CARS.
The CHAIRMAN. How many rescue cars have you?
Mr. MANNING. We have eight. -
The CHAIRMAN. Are all of them in operation? s
Mr. MANNING. All of them are in operation, but they are in a very
dilapidated cºndition. Some of the railroads of the country have
declined to haul those cars except on freight trains.
Mr. GILLETT. If the mines are cooperating in this work, will there
be less need of doing it through your bureau? #
Mr. MANNING. They are cooperating. ..
Mr. GILLETT. Now that you have them cooperating, will there be
less need of a Government agency being active?
Mr. MANNING. So far we have only been able to cover a very Small
territory in the United States, and it is desired to cover the metal-
mining regions as fully as the coal-mining regions.
Mr. GILLETT. With what? -
Mr. MANNING. With the mine rescue cars.
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Mr. GILLETT. I asked you whether, if the mines themselves are
interested and cooperating in this work, there will be less necessity
for your bureau doing it? -
Mr. MANNING. There will be less necessity, no doubt, in time, as
the operators and miners are educated to the work. A great many
of the operating companies are purchasing rescue apparatus, and
Some of them have mine rescue cars as a result of this educational
work on the part of the Government. -
Mr. GILLETT. A mining company would not need cars, would it?
The cars are needed to go from place to place.
Mr. MANNING. Cars are needed by the larger operating companies
having widely separated mines. -
Mr. MoRDELL. That is, in the case of companies that have quite
a number of mines? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. For instance, the Colorado Fuel & Iron
Co. has a great many mines.
Mr. GILLETT. I supposed that they would have the apparatus sta-
tioned at each mine. -
Mr. MANNING, Yes, sir. Many mines have this rescue and first-
aid apparatus.
Mr. GILLETT. Then, would they have these cars?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. In time of a disaster a car might be of
great service.
The CHAIRMAN. The purpose of the cars was to put the bureau
in a position where it could educate the mining interests on the
subject?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
PERSONAL SERVICES IN WASHINGTON, D. C.
In this item for the investigation of mine accidents there is a
change in the phraseology proposed by adding the language, “includ-
ing personal services in the District of Columbia.” Now, you were
very generous last year in giving us the percentage limitation of
10 per cent under the item for the investigation of mine accidents
and 20 per cent under the item of mineral mining for personal serv-
ices in the District of Columbia. So far we have not been embar-
rassed, but there is a possibility of embarrassment—for example, in
the matter of testing fuel. We are testing all of the fuel belonging
to the Government, including the Government purchases here in
Washington. The limitation in that item is, “not in excess of the
number and total compensation of those So employed during the
fiscal year 1913.” Therefore the limitation of employees must be
based upon the number employed during the preceding fiscal year.
We do not propose to take advantage of a limitation giving us the
same privilege that some of the other bureaus have in the employ-
ment of personal services in the District of Columbia, but this is to
provide for a contingency that might occur. The 20 per cent limita-
tion in mineral mining is too large under the present appropriation
of $100,000. Under the item of mine accidents we are just about
up to the limitation. The amount that will be expended during this
fiscal year under that appropriation for personal services in the Dis-
trict of Columbia is $32,096. The comptroller has held on numerous
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occasions that you can maintain a field office here in Washington.
In other words, if in the opinion of the Director of the Bureau of
Mines it should be necessary to maintain a field office in the city of
Washington, and he should recommend to the Secretary of the In-
terior the maintenance of a field office here in Washington, and if
this recommendation is approved, there is no limitation in law to
prevent it. I think Mr. Courts is familiar with the comptroller's
decision' on this subject.
Mr. CourTS. It started with a decision of the Attorney General
that the term “executive department * included executive serv-
ice at Washington. For instance, in the Postal Service the Post-
master General and his departmental force are separate and distinct
from the employees of the city post office, and in that case they held
that they could have an office of the Railway Mail Service here in
Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. In the form in which you have submitted the
estimate, if that were carried in the bill, would it cover what you
desire? | -
Mr. MANNING. I think you tried last year to authorize what We
want to do under this provision. Congress gave us authority last
year to bring men to Washington to write up their field reports, and
we have men in Washington doing field work. Take, for instance,
our fuel-testing work, which is for the Government exclusively.
Every branch of the Government service sends coal to us to test.
The CHAIRMAN. What we were trying to do, without embarrassing
the bureau if possible, was to segregate the bureau’s field service, and
last year in trying to bring that about we put in a provision allow-
ing 20 per cent in one case and 10 per cent in another
Mr. MANNING (interposing). That was very generous of the
committee.
The CHAIRMAN. And we provided for the submission of informa-
tion in the estimates as to these personal services. That was done
so as to keep these two services separate and to get them on a basis
where there would not be that continual friction
Mr. MANNING (interposing). I understand that the whole purpose
you have in mind is to prevent as far as possible any augmentation
of administrative forces; but in a technical bureau the adminis-
trative force is not engaged on routine work. For instance, take the
work of the director and the work on our publications—that is an
essential feature of technical work, and it is not like the case of a
lawyer who wants to get an addition to his force. I do not think it is
a fair comparison to take the routine work of a department, or
purely administrative work, and say that you make that contra-
distinction between administrative work and Scientific work
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Where there is a certain organiza-
tion or a certain number of employees, or where the whole outfit is
engaged on what is purely administrative work
Mr. MANNING (interposing). It is difficult to define what admin-
istrative work with us would be. For instance, if an inquiry should
come of a technical character that would call for a report from the
chief mining engineer, that correspondence would be referred to
him for a report. His report comes back for the signature of the
director, and, while it goes out over the director's signature, I do
not think that is administrative work, because the report has been
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prepared by a specialist employed for that purpose. I do not be-
lieve that any technical bureau would try to augment its adminis-
trative force to the detriment of the technical work which is the
product that the bureau must put out.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask, then, instead of having that limita-
tion —
Mr. MANNING (interposing). I would ask you to give us that lan-
guage, “Including personal Services in the District of Columbia,”
and require us to make a report to Congress, as we have done this
year, as to what the force was in Washington.
MINING, PREPARATION, ETC., OF MINERAL FUELS AND UNFINISHED
IMINIERAL PRODUCTS-TESTING COAL FOR GOVERNIMENT UES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For investigation of mineral
fuels and unfinished mineral products belonging to or for the use
of the United States, with a view to their most efficient mining,
preparation, treatment, and use, including personal services in the
bureau at Washington, D. C.” The current appropriation is $135,000
and your estimate is $150,000. * - .
Mr. MANNING. That increase submitted is intended to cover special
investigations for other branches of the Government service. The
first is a special investigation into the increased efficiency of the
heating and power plants belonging to the Government—that is, to
determine the coal best adapted, having regard to local conditions
and prices, for use in the equipment in the buildings. The Secre-
tary of the Treasury has asked the Bureau of Mines to cooperate
with the engineers of the Supervising Architect's Office in making
this investigation. The Navy Department has made a similar re-
quest for testing its coal fuel. The best illustration of that work is
the recent test on the Maryland of Matanuska coal.
The CHAIRMAN. You had a special apropriation for that?
Mr. MANNING. We have an appropriation of $135,000 for investi-
gations and analyzing and testing coals for the use of the Gov-
ernment of the United States.
The CHAIRMAN. You had a special appropriation for that testing,
did you not?
Mr. MANNING. No, sir; the Navy Department had. The appro-
priation for the Navy Department was for the field investigation.
Under our appropriation we are authorized to analyze and test fuel
belonging to or for the use of the United States, So when the Navy
Department got the coal on board the U. S. S. Maryland for practi.
cal tests we detailed one of our engineers to go out and observe the
test. I would like to read you a letter which illustrates the value
of the work of the Bureau of Mines to the Navy Department. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the date of the letter?
Mr. MANNING. December 3, 1914. The letter reads as follows:
MARE ISLAND, VALLEJo, CAL., December 3, 1914.
To : Secretary of the Navy. - -
Subject: Report of services of Mr. S. B. Flagg.
1. During the recent tests of Matanuska coal by the U. S. S. Maryland,
Mr. S. B. Flagg, engineer of the Bureau of Mines, was attached to this ship,
having been detailed by the Bureau of Mines with the permission of the Navy
Department to observe the tests of this coal. Mr. Flagg assisted the officers of
the ship with the work in the firerooms. He instructed firemen and water
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tenders in the best methods of firing and showed how to obtain the best com-
bustion of the Matanuska coal. Ordinarily it would be difficult for a civilian
to go into the firerooms of a warship and instruct officers and men in firing
boilers, but Mr. Flagg entered on his work very quietly and SOOn had all the
officers, firemen, and water tenders following his methods.
2. The commanding officer desires to commend to department the excellent
services rendered by Mr. Flagg during the tests of the Matanuska coal.
. - PHILIP ANDREWS.
The CHAIRMAN. How are you making those investigations now %
You say that you want this increase to take care of these Government
investigations?
Mr. MANNING. In our laboratory here in Washington we are
analyzing and testing the greater part of the coal purchased by the
Government. •
The CHAIRMAN. You are making all of those tests now %
Mr. MANNING. We are making them in Washington and Pitts-
burgh. If demands on us to make these tests are not made, of course
we will not do it. It has been the purpose of the bureau to comply
with all of the requests coming from the Government, So as to pre-
vent the building up in the departments of any fuel-testing plants.
I think that is in line with your suggestions.
The CHAIRMAN. I think all of it ought to be done in your bureau.
Mr. MANNING. You told the director that when he found any other
branch of the Government service encroaching upon our work to
report it to the committee and that the remedy would be applied.
Acting on your instructions I have to report that the following
branches of the service have laboratories for analyzing and testing
coal samples: New York Navy Yard, Navy Department, Rock Island
Arsenal, War Department and some of the divisions of the Corps
of Engineers, United States Army, notably the ones in charge of
the improvement of the Mississippi River with headquarters in St.
Louis, Mo.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those investigations conducted in Wash-
ington? $
Mr. MANNING. Not all of them. The larger number of these in-
vestigations is being carried on at Pittsburgh. The investigations
we make here in Washington have to do particularly with the pur-
chase of about $8,000,000 worth of coal every year by the Govern-
ment; that is, for the Navy Department, War Department, Treasury
Department, and others; for the Panama Railroad; and for the
department buildings in Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you prepare specifications for any of the de-
partments? - }
Mr. MANNING. For all of them. We make recommendations to
them and they adopt them.
The CHAIRMAN. You prepare Špecifications as to the heat or ther-
mal units?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And do you test coal purchased under those speci-
fications?
Mr. MANNING. We do.
The CHAIRMAN. Do any disputes arise concerning coal?
Mr. MANNING. Very often.
The CIIAIRMAN. Are they referred to the Bureau of Mines for
adjustment?
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Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, as a result of the purchases being made in
this way, do you know whether there has been any economy in the
purchase of coal or any economy in the appropriations for fuel?
Mr. MANNING. I can give you the facts regarding one of the
largest purchasers of coal. The Panama Railroad gave a statement,
through its vice president. Mr. Drake. that through the inspection
and analysis by the Bureau of Mines of the coal purchased by the
Panama Railroad they had penalized their contractors about $40,000
a year because of the delivery of coal of quality inferior to that
guaranteed. We have a case down at the Government Printing
Office now. The Printing Office has put in some new equipment and
has requested the bureau to select the most economic fuel for use in
the power-plant equipment and to also assist in other ways to increase
the efficiency and economy of the plant.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the character of the specifications that you
draw Ż -
Mr. MANNING. We specify so much ash, so much moisture, so
many British thermal units, so much volatile matter, and so much
sulphur.
Mr. MoRDELL. Your specifications require the coal to contain at
least a certain amount of fixed carbon 7 -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And not to exceed a certain amount of ash and
moisture? .
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; and we specify so many British thermal
units. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. And then you specify that in consumption it shall
produce so many thermal units, or so much evaporation?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And they send you coal occasionally in order that
you may test it out? -
Mr. MANNING. We are collecting those samples every day.
Mr. MoRDELL. Where do you make those tests?
Mr. MANNING. At the Bureau of Mines laboratory in Washington.
Mr. MoRDELL. What sort of an apparatus do you have to make the
British thermal unit test? - º
Mr. MANNING. We use a calorimeter.
Mr. MoRDELL. Does that require the examination of a considerable
quantity?
Mr. MANNING. That requires a very small quantity. This small
quantity is put in a bomb filled with oxygen, which in turn is placed
in water. The coal is ignited by electricity and the heat it gives off
in burning is measured by observing the rise of temperature of the
water outside the bomb.
Mr. MONDELL. You secure the small amount you need by Selection
from a large quantity, as you do in the case of an analysis?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.. Take the case of the Panama Railroad;
out of a cargo shipment of 5,000 tons, we collect a 3,000 to 5,000
pound sample right on the pier. That sample is taken into a crush-
ing room, where it is crushed and reduced until only a small Sample
is left. This small sample is sent to the laboratory here for testing.
Mr. MonoFLL. You grind the entire sample?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
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Mr. MoRDELL. Divide and redivide? t
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. f
Mr. MoRDELL. Just as in the case of an analysis until you get a
Small Sample that is representative of the entire quantity?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. We find that the sampling is one of the
most important factors, for if the sampling is not properly done
the sample will not be representative.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is the whole thing. You can get the most
misleading results in the world if you are not careful about your
Sampling. They send you these samples quite frequently?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. Do you investigate the character of the coal on
the public domain?
Mr. MANNING. For the Geological Survey. They collect the sam-
ples and send them to us and we analyze them.
The CHAIRMAN. They do all the collecting?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. And you make the analyses?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Where do you do that work?
Mr. MANNING. At Pittsburgh.
Mr. MoRDELL. Most of this analyzing is done at Pittsburgh?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; except for the departments; we do that
here in Washington.
Mr. MoRDELL. Including the tests for the British thermal unit?
Mr. MANNING. Those tests are made of the coal analyzed here in
Washington and that analyzed at Pittsburgh.
MINING, PREPARATION, TREATMENT, ETC., OF ORES AND OTHER MIN-
|ERALS-RADIUM INVESTIGATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For inquiries and scientific
and technologic investigations concerning the mining, preparation,
treatment, and utilization of ores and other mineral substances, with
a view to improving health conditions and increasing Safety, ef-
ficiency, economic development, and conserving resources through
the prevention of waste in the mining, quarrying, metallurgical, and
other mineral industries,” etc., and the appropriation is $100,000, and
your estimate is $100,000. Under this appropriation what do you
do—what character of ores do you investigate?
Mr. MANNING. One of the most important investigations during
the past two years under that appropriation has been in connection
with the investigation of the cannotite ores of Colorado, which are
the radium-bearing ores. As a result of this investigation we are
now crystallizing radium which the Government can produce for
about $40,000 a gram, yet you have to pay to one of the companies
in the United States $120,000 a gram. ge
The CHAIRMAN. What would be the size of a gram of radium ?
Mr. MANNING. Very small; not much larger than a pencil point.
The CHAIRMAN. A quarter of an inch of the lead of a pencil'
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; just about that size.
The CHAIRMAN. Outside of the radium Work, what have you been
doing?
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Mr. MANNING. A great many of the reports regarding the use of
radium can be explained when you talk to men like Dr. Abbe and
Dr. Kelly and the Mayo brothers. It was alleged on one occasion
that Dr. W. J. Mayo said that radium had no value in surgery. I
have seen a copy of a letter from Dr. Mayo in which he denied the
newspaper interview. All one has to do is to go to Baltimore to
Dr. Kelly’s hospital and see the wonderful results that he has accom-
plished by the use of radium in treating cancer. -
The CHAIRMAN. To what other use besides its possible use in
medicine is radium put'
Mr. MANNING. There is none, so far as I know, which has been
developed. This is really something new.
The CHAIRMAN. So far, its use is restricted to medical work?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; but its possibilities no one can foresee.
Mr. MoRDELL. What practical valuation can you place on the dis-
coveries you have made of the manner of separating radium from
the mother ores if the Government does not go into the business; is
it a process that individuals can avail themselves of .
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. You are not keeping it as a Government secret?
Mr. MANNING. No. Nothing will be kept as a secret in the Bureau
of Mines. That is one of the advantages the public derives from
its publications. The Government will make the result of all of its
investigations public, so anyone can manufacture radium according
to this process. Those companies here and abroad that make radium
use a secret process, which is patented, and nobody else can use it.
The CHAIRMAN. Outside of radium, what work have you been
doing?
Mr. MANNING. Investigating safety and waste in smelter opera-
tions; that is a continuation of the investigation begun two years ago.
The CHAIRMAN. That is not in coal mining?
Mr. MANNING. No, sir; metallurgical.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been done? - -
Mr. MANNING. Investigations have been carried on at Anaconda,
following a suit brought by the Government to stop damage to na-
tional forests. The company was enjoined, but the suit was held in
abeyance pending an investigation by a commission, with the under-
standing that the Anaconda Co. would make such improvements as
this commission should recommend. There has been another investi-
gation carried on in cooperation with the Bureau of Mines and the
State of California at what is known as the Selby smelter. The State
agreed to appoint a commission, of which the director of the Bureau
of Mines was made chairman, and in cooperation with this commis-
Sion the bureau has been carrying on investigations there. Then there
has been the investigation of miscellaneous minerals, covering the
rarer metals. -
The CHAIRMAN. Was there opposition from the metallurgical mine
owners to these investigations? -
Mr. MANNING. None whatever. We have secured the hearty coop-
eration of all of them.
The CHAIRMAN. As the result of that investigation has there been
any improvement in the character and number of devices to protect
the mines from accident?
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Mr. MANNING. Through the recommendations of the bureau?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. There has unquestionably been more gen-
eral adoption of Safety devices and methods. Of course, we must
realize that it is pretty hard to measure or to state specifically just
What improvements those people have made. Whereas safety, first
aid to the injured, and the use of artificial breathing apparatus were
practically unknown among the metal mines a few years ago, now,
due in large measure to the efficient work of our men in combating
mine fires, and in teaching first aid and safety, many of the larger
metal mining operations have well organized Safety departments and
hold contests and other field meets to encourage their men in first aid
and mine rescue work. -
The CHAIRMAN. What has been done in the way of preventing
Waste and conserving the metals? The theory was that the methods
of mining were so crude that there was very considerable waste.
Mr. MANNING. We have not made very much progress on the ques-
tion of the utilization of low-grade ores because this particular appro-
priation has only been available for such a short time. We have not
made very much progress in the metal mining industry.
The CHAIRMAN. This is the first or second year?
Mr. MANNING. The third year. The first and second years the
appropriation was $50,000, and the third year it was increased to
$100,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. This is the third year.
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
DUPLICATION OF WORK OF OR BY OTHER SERVICEs.
Mr. Chairman, there is another matter I Want to take up. No in-
crease is submitted in this appropriation, but at the earnest request
of the director I want to submit an argument, hoping that you will
give him the relief that he has been asking for for two or three years
by the omission of the phraseology “that no part thereof may be
used for investigation in behalf of any private party, nor shall any
part thereof be used for work authorized or required by law to be
done by any other branch of the public service.” That provision
was enacted by Congress to prevent duplication of Work, restricting
the Bureau of Mines to its own legitimate operations and not allow-
ing it to encroach upon any other field, and in response to your sug-
gestion that if the bureau felt at any time that the provision was
likely to interfere with its work to report to you, I want to submit
two or three concrete cases.
Senate resolution 68, adopted by the Senate June 30, 1914, directs
the Secretary of Labor to investigate the mortality and disability
by accident incident to or resulting from the various occupations in
which the wage earners of the United States are engaged. The
Bureau of Mines from its creation has been investigating accidents,
at first in mining and later in metallurgical industries. The au-
thority given the Secretary of Labor is broad enough to include such
industries, and hence to that extent not only permits duplication of
the bureau’s work but under the limitation contained in the proviso
to the mineral mining appropriation may detrimentally affect the
bureau’s work. That is one concrete case. -
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The CHAIRMAN. I could give you others of the same character
where the Department of Labor has been directed to do the work of
other bureaus. * - - -
Mr. MANNING. You are speaking of the Bureau of Labor safety
bill'. -
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. MANNING. In connection with that, I want to sumbit that the
Industrial Relations Commission very recently asked for a confer-
ence with the Secretary of the Interior regarding labor safety de-
vices, health and sanitation, and the Secretary delegated me to rep-
resent the department at the meetings of this conference. The
purpose of the conference was to discuss whether or not a Federal
commission was necessary to coordinate the work of the various de-
partments. I cited the Economy and Efficiency Commission, and told
them that I was not in favor of any Federal commission to regulate
the work unless it had some authority to regulate such matters; that
I thought it might be done in another way; and that the matter of
duplication, in my opinion, was not so large, so far as the technical
bureaus were concerned, as was generally understood. There must
be certain overlapping of work, and so far as the Bureau of Mines
was concerned, we wanted to keep our work controlled in our bureau.
Of course we are naturally zealous and watchful. As a result of
that meeting a hearing was held before the Secretary of Labor, and
he decided that he was going to stand for the Bureau of Labor safety
bill. I brought up the question that it would give him authority to
go into the Bureau of Mines field, and he said that so far as he was
concerned that would never happen. I stated that this would be true
so far as he was concerned, but that we might have to deal with his
successor along different lines and that it would simply put us out
of business if the provision stood as it stands now. It may be of
interest to you to know that the Secretary of Labor is considering a
recommendation to the President that an interdepartmental com-
mittee be appointed to report to him whether or not there is dupli-
cation of work, and if there is to have such coordination of this work
within the departments as will prevent duplication.
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any proposition made that you
should do work, for private parties? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; we get requests every day and send them
back with the reply that we are not, under the law, allowed to do it.
The CHAIRMAN. That is not the part of this provision which you
are discussing now %
Mr. MANNING. No. p
The CHAIRMAN. You are discussing the provision that prohibits
you from doing anything which by reason of law may devolve on
some other department?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And your contention is that it may deprive you
entirely of all your authority?
Mr. MANNING. Unquestionably, and some zealous chief of a bureau
may say that notwithstanding the fact that the organic act gives
this authority, we can not construe that organic act in connection
with the specific provision in the appropriation.
The Public Health Service is cooperating with the bureau in con-
nection with the investigations into the health and sanitary cºnd-
666 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
tions in the mines. If the Public Health Service requires the assist-
a rice of a mining engineer to go into mining areas we detail a.
engineer. Such an investigation just being finished in one of the
Western States has shown that 10 per cent of the miners die annually
from tuberculosis and 50 to 60 per cent have tuberculosis. -
The CHAIRMAN. When you want the health conditions investigated
you have it done through the Public Health Service? -
Mr. MANNING. We have two men detailed to the bureau now who
Jarry on these investigations.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking that this item may include per-
sonal services in the District of Columbia. Do you now employ any
one in the District out of this appropriation——S12,598?
Mr. MANNING. That is the correct amount.
INVESTIGATIONS CONCERNING UTILIZATION OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL
GAS.
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The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “ For inquiries and investiga-
tions concerning the mining, preparation, treatment, and utilization
of pretroleum and natural gas,” and the appropriation is $25,000.
and your estimate is $50,000?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. This is the first year you have had this authority ?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been done? -
Mr. MANNING. One of the investigations carried on under this ap-
propriation has been in cooperation with the Department of Justice
in the California oil fields, in the suit brought by the Government
for the recovery of the oil lands in southern California, in preparing
for that department a map of all the oil wells and pipe lines. An-
other investigation has been carried on in Oklahoma in connection
with petroleum and natural gas, the waste and nonuse of those two
materials, devising methods and means of casing off the gas, and
proper mechanical appliances to prevent its waste. As this appro-
priation was not available until the late summer we have not ac-
complished very much in connection with this investigation. I
should like to submit a statement which I have just received from
the director, and with your permission I will read it.
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Mr. MANNING (reading):
The United States produces 63 per cent of the world’s petroleum, and the
industry represents a capital investment of nearly one-half billion dollars. The
need for extended inquiries and investigations is more urgent in Connection
with petroleum than with any other branch of the mining industry, Save natural
gas. This is illustrated by the numerous losses, in connection with (trilling,
storage, transportation, and from the inflow of underground waters, the total
wastes or losses in the production, storage. and transportation of petroleum
being estimated at not less than $50,000,000 per annum. A large part of this
loss is preventable. Wasteful utilization of products of petroleum must greatly
increase this amount. It is a fact that the principal oil-producing areas are
believed to be well defined, and that the next few years will See a constantly
diminishing instead of an increasing production, calling for more extended
inquiries in order that this valuable resource may not be wastefully depleted.
And one of the chief purposes of this investigation is to obtain accurate infor-
mation on the subject—to develop, the possibilities of preventing a Serious
waste or nonuso of resources which are invaluable to the Country and which
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are being developed and utilized in a seriously wasteful manner. The Navy
Department is vitally concerned in the petroleum industry, and it is proposed
to use part of this amount for investigations which will be of material value
to that department. -
The matter of the depletion of the oil fields is best illustrated by
the rapid exhaustion of the oil fields in the States of Pennsylvania
and New York, which show a decline from 33,000,000 barrels in 1901
to less than 9,000,000 barrels in 1912; in the States of Ohio, Indiana,
and Illinois there have been similar large declines. Oklahoma, Cal-
ifornia, and Mexico are the fields which show a large increase. One
of the important investigations which the bureau should undertake
might be illustrated by this chart of coal-tar by-products [exhibit-
ing]. A chart similar to that can be prepared for petroleum, which
lyas several thousand by-products. Here [indicating] is one by-
product of coal, a dyestuff, which I select as an illustration. To get
artificial indigo cost one company $4,800,000. The users of aniline
dyes in the United States are to-day absolutely dependent upon
Germany and patented processes. There are practically no aniline
dyes made in the United States. One of the constituents of smoke-
less powder which is used to-day by the War and Navy is trini-
trotoluol, a coal-tar product which comes from Germany. What,
is true of coal tar is true of petroleum. I will give you just a few
of the products of petroleum: Naphtha, gas oil, fuel oil, paraffine
oil, filtered cylinder oil, unfiltered cylinder oil, etc. There are
thousands of other by-products. -
The CHAIRMAN. The principal work you have done has been this
work in connection with the litigation ?
Mr. MANNING. No, sir. We have also made some analyses of the
oil shale of Utah from samples that the Geological Survey has col-
lected. The samples were sent to our laboratory to be analyzed and
tested. In the matter of testing petroleum, we have one chemist who
is now engaged in what is called fractionating and cracking oil.
From the base, crude petroleum the first fraction would be gasoline,
and the refiner may get to-day from a given petroleum 1% per cent,
but we hope to develop a process by which we can get 12 or possibly
20 per cent.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you take up the question of developing the
process so as to obtain larger results at cheaper cost? -
Mr. MANNING. In a limited way we are doing that with reference
to petroleum. - -
The CHAIRMAN. And the information is made public? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. Let me tell you what the Standard Oil
Co. has accomplished, a company that has been making possibly
larger progress in developing by-products of petroleum than any
other company in the world. Take the Lima crude oil, when first
discovered in 1886 it was not refinable on account of the excessive
proportion of sulphur contained in it. It was used for fuel and sold
as low as 15 cents per barrel. In June. 1889, one of the Standard
refineries at Cleveland was set aside as an experimental plant for
the purpose of developing a process for the removal of the sulphur.
Herman Frasch evolved the processes after an expenditure of several
hundred thousand dollars. This Frasch process is the only method
by which a good illuminating oil has ever been produced from Lima
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or Indiana crude. Its discovery made accessible for use millions of
barrels of oil. That was a patented process. The Standard Oil Co.
has never permitted a process to become public property until the
patent has expired.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for $50,000 next year. What do
you propose to do?
Mr. MANNING. To enlarge the scope of the work and to carry on
more research work along the lines that I have described, and also,
What is more important, in the California and Oklahoma fields to
make investigations regarding the inflow of waters into the oil wells,
and also to make investigations and tests for the Navy Department
and for the Treasury Department.
TRAVELING EXPENSEs To MEETINGs, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to have included the following language:
Including the expenses of attendance at meetings under this and the fore-
going sums when required in connection with work authorized by law under said
bureau, including personal services in the District of Columbia º
Mr. MANNING. We slipped up on that last year. We did not dis-
cover that there was no provision in the House bill until it was too
late to get it through the Senate. We are asking for the same privi-
lege which we had last year, that the head of the department be
authorized to grant permission to employees to attend meetings of
certain technical and scientific societies, not for the purpose of going
as a member but simply to give the employees the opportunity to go
there and meet people that they could not meet in any other way,
and to listen to highly scientific and technical subjects discussed from
the commercial standpoint, information that they could not get in
any other way.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you want your men to get information or to
give information?
Mr. MANNING. To get and to give information. There is no
doubt we do derive benefit from contact with men who have expert
knowledge. Again, through the efforts of the Bureau of Mines, with-
out any exception, every mining State in the Union has an annual
first-aid meeting, and those who organize a meet want the Govern-
ment's representatives to come there and see whether the apparatus
and equipment used are up to date and whether the best methods of
training are used.
Mr. MoRDELL. You are doing considerable work under this appro-
priation, with a view to determining the extent, character, and cause
of the loss from flooding, and also the extent of loss from other
causes connected with the drilling and development of oil?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. * -
Mr. MoRDELL. How do you propose to make practical use of that
information after you obtain it and secure results in the exercise of
greater care? The Federal Government, of course, has no power to
compel these people to save or be careful in drilling. - *
Mr. MANNING. They have no power to do that, except the respect
that the average person has for the expert opinion of a Government
employee. To answer your question directly, what practical use
so far has been made of the Bureau of Mines recommendations, I
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can give you an instance in Oklahoma, where we found several hun-
dred million cubic feet of gas going to Waste every day. We sent two
engineers down there who took absolute charge of some of the Wells
and demonstrated to the satisfaction of the drillers that by using a
mud-laden fluid they could go through the gas-bearing sand down
to the oil that the oil operators are after. For a time it was difficult
to get the operators to accept the recommendation, but they finally
realized that it was the best means.so far discovered to prevent waste
of gas. e * -
Mr. MONDELL, I suppose that the facts you develop and the reme-
dies for the loss that you suggest will be considered by members of
State legislatures? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. And one way in which your work could become
effective and of practical value would be through the action of the
State legislatures? .."
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoR DELL. Has anything been done along that line?
Mr. MANNING. As a result of the work which is being done at
this time in Oklahoma, which is the second largest oil-producing
State in the Union, the Bureau of Mines has two experts down
there going over, with the Corporation Commission of Okla-
homa, the laws and regulations that apply not only to the segre-
gated but also to the unsegregated lands; in other words, the lands
now owned by the Indians and those already disposed of by the
State, with the idea of recommending to the State legislature suit-
able laws to be enacted at the present session.
Mr. MoRDELL. Have you done any work in Wyoming as yet along
those lines?
Mr. MANNING. No, sir; except to make an investigation in the
Shoshone reservation for the Indian Office. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. They are beginning rather extensive drilling there,
and I imagine that in some cases there may be the attendant Waste
that has unfortunately occurred in fields elsewhere.
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
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MINE RESCUE STATION, BIRMINGHAM, ALA., EQUIPMENT AND EXTENSION.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “For equipment and extension
of mine rescue station at Birmingham, Ala., $3,000.” Have we a
Federal station there?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; a station which cost about $7,500, built
two years ago. The purpose of this appropriation is to provide
facilities for mine-rescue and first-aid training and also to provide
living quarters for the foreman in charge of the station. There are
no such facilities there for the foreman now, and it is necessary to
keep him there.
MINE RESCUE STATION, M*ALESTER, ORLA., REPAIRs To.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For repairs to mine rescue
station at McAlester, Okla., $500.” t -
Mr. MANNING. The purchase of that station was authorized at
the last session of Congress at a cost of $5,500—a station which
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originally cost about $10,000. This is to make some necessary repairs
at that station. We have been occupying it for the last four or five
years without paying any rent, and it is somewhat in need of repairs,
and we ask for that amount to fix it up.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that an important place?
Mr. MANNING. Do you mean McAlester, Okla. ?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. MANNING. That is one of the most important fields in the
United States. It is the only field in the United States where the
Government has any supervision over the operation of the coal
mines, except one in Wyoming. There are 44 coal mines leased by
the Indians in Oklahoma.
PITTSBURGH EXPERIMENTAL LABORATORY-EQUIPMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For dismantling and removal
of the plant of the Pittsburgh Mining Experiment Station and
installation in the new buildings in Pittsburgh constructed under
authority of section 26 of the public buildings act, approved March
4, 1913,” etc., $100,000. You stated a little while ago that you ex-
pected to advertise in a short time for the building?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. That building is to cost $500,000?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; of which $150,000 has already been appro-
priated by Congress.
The CHAIRMAN. When is it expected that this building will be
completed?
Mr. MANNING. The information that I have received from the
supervising architect's office in response to the same inquiry was
that it would probably take 16 months.
º CHAIRMAN. You would not want all of this money at this
time?
Mr. MANNING. These buildings will be ready for occupancy by
July 1.
The CHAIRMAN. July, 1916?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. I considered this appropriation in con-
nection with the request to this committee to give favorable consid-
eration to this estimate, and took up this matter with the engineers
at Pittsburgh, who prepared the estimate, to ascertain whether We
could reduce this amount to any extent or not, and I was informed
that a large portion of this equipment would have to be built in
when the buikding is being constructed, such as laboratory equip-
ment, etc.
The CHAIRMAN. Built in the building?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The new material?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. I have here a detailed statement.
The CHAIRMAN. Would any of the material that is now in the
present building have to be built into the new building?
Mr. MANNING. Practically none, except that authorized by the last
Congress for equipment costing $10,000, which we are purchasing
with the idea of working it into this new building. The material
that we now have at the Pittsburgh station has been collected from
various expositions, largely from the St. Louis Exposition. It is old
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equipment and much of it is hardly worth tearing up and moving
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& The CHAIRMAN. About $15,000 is for the removal of the old build-
ling 4 -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And $85,000 is for the new machinery and in-
stallation? º
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You say that a lot of that machinery will be built
in as the building goes up?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; for instance, laboratory tables, pipes, etc.,
which the Supervising Architect will not put in as a part of the
original Service equipment.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you arranging so that this construction work
will all be done if the money is appropriated? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. As the building is constructed, if we
secure the appropriation, We will arrange to have the installation
made as rapidly as the contractor gets out of the way.
The CHAIRMAN. Who prepared the estimate?
Mr. MANNING. The estimate was prepared by the engineers at
Pittsburgh. -
The CHAIRMAN. That would be 20 per cent of the cost of the
building?
Mr. MANNING. A great deal of this, of course, is apparatus and
equipment that is expensive. e
The CHAIRMAN. Are you familiar with the details yourself?
Mr. MANNING. I have been over the statement and I can explain
it to you, if there is any explanation you want.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much of this machinery and apparatus which
you are asking for needs to be put in the building during the process
of construction?
Mr. MANNING. I should say, Mr. Chairman, that possibly not
more than 25 per cent of it. ----
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you mean in value?
Mr. MANNING. I mean in value; but it is to provide for equipment
that is necessary for carrying on our investigations. The equipment
we now have is in a very dilapidated condition.
Mr. MoRDELL. How much of this material should you be able to
secure during the construction of the building, because it rather
strikes me that you are not going to be in a position to move or to
install any new machinery that can be put in after the building is
completed during the life of the appropriation we are now con-
sidering? -
Mr. MANNING. That is true.
Mr. MoRDELL. All you need, as I see it, is what is necessary to go
into the building during its construction?
Mr. MANNING.. I see the point; that is true, but we £re asking, in
addition to that, certain equipment that we will want to put into this
new building, which will make our work more efficient and in better
keeping with the building. We do not want to take into the new
building a lot of old equipment.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand. You can purchase that in a short
time, about the time you are going to move in Ž -
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Mr. MANNING. A great deal of the equipment that we secured
heretofore we had to get from Europe. We will have to order this
equipment and wait a long time to get it. In that connection I want
to call your attention to three grades of rescue apparatus We have
been getting from Germany and from Great Britain. We have had
devised and made by one of our employees a type of mine-rescue
apparatus which, I think, will take the place of all the three types
we have been getting abroad. We have devised something of our
own and we will not have to go to Europe in the future, if this
works out successfully. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much money will be needed at this time to
enable you to have incorporated in the building as it goes up that
portion of the equipment which it is desirable to have built into
the building, leaving to a later time the appropriation for the dis-
mantling and removal of the machinery you have in the existing
building and for the additional equipment that will not be perma-
nently fixed or a part of the building itself?
Mr. MANNING. In other words, how much money is urgently
needed at this time?
The CHAIRMAN. How much money is needed to enable you to have
built into the building that equipment which it is desirable and very
advantageous should be built in during the construction period? -
Mr. MANNING. Twenty-five per cent; but, of course, with the un-
derstanding that at some future time we will ask for the other equip-
ment. -
Mr. MoRDELL. You think that 25 per cent will cover the machinery
that ought to be built into the building?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Or as the building is being finished?
Mr. MANNING. Not as the building is being finished. That is
much laboratory equipment and the boilers, engines, and general
power, lighting, and heating equipment will have to be purchased
and installed before the building is completed.
The CHAIRMAN. This is to be more than one building? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; the buildings have been designed not
unlike the buildings of the Bureau of Standards. -
The CHAIRMAN. And instead of having one building you will
really have a group of buildings'
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. -- - - &
The CHAIRMAN. Separated into units and having space for vari-
ous kinds of work?
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. t
The CHAIRMAN. Is that more desirable than a single building?
Mr. MANNING. I think so. -
Mr. MonoFLL. It will take three sides of a square? g - -
Mr. MANNJNg. Something like that [indicating]. This will be
the administration building, this the mining building, this the serv-
ice building, and this the laboratory building [indicating].
Mr. Moropil. Can you separate this statement into three classes?
The first would be what was necessary immediately, the other it
might be well to have by the time your building is completed, and
the other you do not need until the building is completed.
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir: I can do that.
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF MINES,
Washington. January 16, 1915.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
EIouse of Representatives, Washington, D. C.
MY DEAR MR. FITZGERALD : In compliance with your request, I have the honor
to Submit the following statement relative to the various appropriations of the
$100,000 estimated for equipment and removal to new buildings of the experi-
ment station at Pittsburgh, which may be appropriated at the present session
Of Congress, and the appropriation of which may be deferred until next Con-
preSS, V1z :
Necessary to purchase or order before this time next year and to be
Specified and COntracted for prior to June 30, 1916_________________ $57, 305
To be made available July 1, 1916, for use in actual moving from the
old to the new experiment-station buildings
Total-------------------------------------------------------- 100,000
None of the equipment or apparatus or labor of dismantling and removing
present equipment will be needed before July 1, 1915, and much of that to be
expended under the second item. that to become available July 1, 1916, will be
of such nature as may well permit of immediate purchase or expenditure in the
open market. See itemization attached.
Sincerely,
VAN. H. MANNING,
Acting Director.
Estimates for removal of present plant equipment, furniture, etc., to the meat,
Untildings.
(1) Apparatus or equipment that it will be necessary to purchase on
order before this time next year (to be contracted for between
July 1, 1915, and July 1, 1916, six months before completion of
buildings) :
Foundations not provided for in building contract and included
in “Total for removal of plant ’’ $. $600
11 hoods, 63 tables and desks, and 3 large laboratory tables___ 8,430
One 100-station automatic internal telephone station__________ 1, 200
Water-cooling system, complete 1, 000
Steel shelving and storage compartments and drawer equip-
ment for Supply TOOm-------- - 5,000
Steel filing equipment for general files __ 2, 500
Steel locker Service for employees 1, 200
Directory bulletin boards, with letters and figures------------ 100
50 Steel Office deskS * 2, 500
50 office chairs------------ 375
Bookcase equipment for library 1, 000
Map-filing equipment 2, 000
20 Safe cabinets for filing technical records __ 1,800
One 25-kilowatt 3-phase, 220-volt. 110 transformer------------ 150
One 10-horsepower motor-driven, slow-Speed air compressor—— 600
One 10-horsepower motor-driven, positive blast fan---------- 450
350-cubic-foot high vacuum pump------ 350
One 50-kilowatt, motor generator set, 3-phase, 440-volt, alter-
nating current synchronous motor and 220–110 volts, 3-wire
direct-current foundation switchboard 2, 200
13,000-gallon feed-Water treater----------------------------- S50
Machinery and equipment, including boiler, engines, electric
generators, switchboards, etc., necessary for the generation
of power for metallurgical investigations * * *- 20, 000
Miscellaneous labor, repairs, materials, and Supplies for plac-
ing machinery, apparatus, furniture, etc.. in condition for
use after installation------------------------------------- 5, 000
Total a- = a- a-e ºs º- *-* = ** * * * * * * * *ms __ 57, 000
72785–15—43
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(2) To be available after July 1, 1916, while actually moving (for
Consideration of next Congress) :
Men and equipment necessary for removal of furniture and
p01 table apparatus—
Dismantling Crew, 260 man days, at $2––––––––––––––––––– $520
Handling Crew at arsenal grounds, 156 man days, at $2__ 312
150 two-horse Wagonloads of material, 78 team days, at $6– 468
Handling Crew of 6 men at new buildings (Magee site),
156 man days, at $2 312
Erecting crew of 12 men, 312 man days, at an average of
$4 ------------------------------ - - - 1, 24S
For removal of rubbish, etc., after moving materials—
60 team days, at $5––––––––––––––––––––––––––– $300
300 man days, at $2________ ___ 600
900
Dismantling, hauling, and erecting fixed machinery and ap-
paratul S-
Lalmp gallery and tank in building 17------------------ 100
Two pieces of armor plate over explosives pit--__________ 300
Ballistic pendulum––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 150
Gas and dust gallery No. 1–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 500
235-horsepower Parker Water-tube boiler and chain-grate
Stoker----------------------------------------------- 1, 000
200-kilowatt DeLaval steam turbine, double generator,
switchboard, attached piping, oil system and new foun-
dation, and Oil guards–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 40ſ)
13,000-gallon water-treating plant, feed-Water heater,
boiler-feed pumps and attached piping---------------- 400
Two 210-horsepower Heine boilers and stolzers, with
piping----------------------------------------------- 2,500
One 80-horsepower return tubular boiler, feed pump, water
Weigher, test equipment, pump, etc -— — — — — — — — —- 500
5 house-heating boilers for test work____________________ 50()
2 engine-driven reduced draft fans, breachings, and foun-
dations * * * * = a-mº sº- - - - - - - -ºm smº, º sºme = * * * * * =s* - 200
2 gas producers and apparatus–––––––––––––––––––––––––– 400
One 175-kilowatt Belter generator and Switchboard______ 100
One 40-horsepower Slide-valve engine 100
One motor-driven air compleSSOT-z---------------------- 75
Equipment for study of heat transmission, consisting of
Steam boiler, Special furnace, air and gas-measuring
devices, motors, fans, air ducts, pump, measuring tanks,
etC - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-* * * * * * * *-* * * * 500
Long Combustion Chamber, Stoker, etc.-------------------- 750
Electric Smoke precipitator----------------------------- 225
Gallery No. 2 for explosion-proof switches and motor
tests, and attached piping, housing, etc.---------------- 300
Gallery No. 4, for electrical flashes in coal dust—---____ -- 100
One 35-kilowatt motor-generator set, switchboard, acces-
Sories and Connections from Central plant to laboratory- 250
Instrument shop, machine shop, blackSmith shop, and car-
penter Shop, resetting motors, tools, etc.---------------- 750
Machinery, apparatus, and other facilities, made necessary by
reinstallation in the new buildings—
New belting, shafting, stock racks, shelving, tool cases,
etc.-------------------------------------------------- 250
Shades and a Wnings----------------------------------- 5, 950
Electric fans------------------------------------------- 1, 500
Brass Cuspidors---------------------------------------- 200
10 rugs, at $60 each------------------------------------ 600
Iinoleum, 6,000 square yards, at $1.50 per square yard_- 9,000
Rewiring of apparatus in laboratories------------------ 500
Miscellaneous labor, repairs, materials and Supplies for
placing machinery, apparatus, furniture, etc., in condi-
tion for use after installation------------------------ 10, 835
Total = -- * = ** = ** = sºme sº * * * * * * * = ame sºm, sºme amº sºme ºs m. ººm, mº = * * 42,695.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 675
MINIE IN SPECTOR IN ATLASIX.A.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For one mine inspector for
duty in Alaska, $3,000.” He inspects what?
Mr. MANNING. He has charge of all the coal and metal mines in
Alaska, inspecting mostly metal mines. There are practically no coal
operations at all, except a few coal banks. His work, therefore, has
been the inspection of the metal mines of Alaska. With this Alaska
leasing bill, which is now operative, as coal mines develop, of course,
his duties will increase. Alaska, as you know, is a place of long dis-
tances. This inspector goes away from his headquarters at Juneau
and there is no one there to answer inquiries or send in reports of
mine accidents that happen in Alaska. It is believed he should
have a clerk to assist him in his work.
CLERR TO MINIC IN SPECTOR OF ALA.S.K.A.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For clerk to mine inspector of
Alaska, $1,500.” This is something new. What is the necessity for
that?
Mr. MANNING. The services of a clerk have been urgently needed
for the past three years, ever since the mine inspector has been there,
to take care of his office work and correspondence during his absence.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you understand that this mine inspector will
be called upon to perform some duties in connection with the leasing
of the properties up there?
Mr. MANNING. Only the inspection.
Mr. MONDELL. The new law will not affect him until the mines
are actually opened?
Mr. MANNING. No, sir. Just how soon those mines will be opened
is a matter of which I know nothing.
BOOKS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For technical and Scientific
books and publications and books of reference,” and the appropria-
tion is $1,500 and you are asking for $2,000?
Mr. MANNING. At one time we had $2,000 in our appropriation
for publications. We have the office here in Washington, one in
Pittsburgh, one at Denver, and one at San Francisco, eight mine
rescue cars and six mine rescue stations. One thousand five hundred
dollars is felt to be a very small appropriation to furnish the tech-
nical books and publications that we feel we should have.
The CHAIRMAN. You have only a very limited supply for the sta-
tions and cars?
Mr. MANNING. Very limited and only certain technical publica-
tions. This additional amount is intended more particularly for
the Pittsburgh office. It is proposed when the Bureau of Mines and
the Geological Survey get into the same building here in Wash-
ington that we will be able to use each other’s libraries. We are
floing that to a limited extent now.
The CHAIRMAN. How are you equipped in Washington, for in-
stance?
Mr. MANNING. In Washington we do not maintain a very large
technical library. Pittsburgh is the place which really needs it.
676 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
There we have some 250 men at work. Some of these publications
are foreign publications which are costly. The limited amount we
have had heretofore does not give us an opportunity to get all the
publications that we feel we should have.
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IIEADQUARTERS FOR MINE RESCUE CARS, LAND FOR.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For purchase or lease of neces-
sary land, where and under such conditions as the Secretary of the
Interior may direct, for the headquarters of mine rescue cars and
construction of necessary railway sidings on the same,” and you are
asking $1,000. In 1914 you only expended $37,45. A
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. The purpose of this appropriation is not
to provide for anything specifically just now or in the future for one
of these cars, but we find that it is desirable to change them around
from time to time, and if we can get the land donated to have funds
that would go at least to the extent of purchasing the necessary rails
and ties.
The CHAIRMAN. You use this money to build sidings? *
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. The reason we did not spend any more
money last year was because the Chesapeake & Ohio gave us the land
and put in the siding. Some of the other railroads have done the
same thing and some of the cities have been actively engaged in
getting donations. - -
MOTOR TRUCKS, OPERATION, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “ For operation, maintenance,
and repairs of one passenger-carrying autotruck, for the use of the
mining engineers and other employees of the Pittsburgh Experi-
ment Station in connection with mine accident and mine Safety
investigations at the experimental mine at Bruceton, Pa., as follows:
Gasoline, $225; cylinder oil, $65; tires, $120; in all, $410.”
Mr. MANNING. That is called an autotruck. k
The CHAIRMAN. Is it really a passenger-carrying vehicle?
Mr. MANNING. Only to the extent that it has two seats—one for the
driver and a portable seat for employees of the bureau.
The CHAIRMAN. Is not this really used to carry the materials?
Mr. MANNING. It is used for that purpose and also for the purpose
of carrying the mining engineers from Pittsburgh out to the ex-
perimental mine, 13 miles.
The CHAIRMAN. It is for carrying passengers? *
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir. If the engineers want to go from Pitts-
burgh to the experimental mine instead of waiting for a B. & O.
train, which leaves at 10 and would bring them back at 3, we think
it is economical to send them out in this Way.
PER DIEM or EMPLOYEES DETAILED TO WASHINGTON.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for some modification of this paragraph,
as follows:
Provided, That nothing in this act is to prevent the payment to all employees
of the Bureau of Mines of their necessary expenses or per diem in lieu of sub:
sistence while on temporary detail in Washington, D. C., for purposes only of
consultation or invostigations on behalf of the United States.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 677
Mr. MANNING. Mr. Chairman, your committee last year attempted
to give us the relief we wanted but the comptroller has gone you one
step better in the restrictions of the bureau’s work. He has decided
that, for instance, if the director wanted the chief mining engineer
to come to Washington to see him, if the chief mining engineer came
here by Order of the director, he can not receive his expenses while
in the city of Washington for one or two days. We had a recent
case where the Public Printer asked us to investigate the power
plant at the Government Printing Office and determine the best coal
to use in the boilers. We also have had a case where the Industrial
Relations Commission asked one of our engineers to come to Wash-
ington to make certain statements before the commission. Now, it is
manifestly unfair to have the other bureaus or branches of the Gov-
ernment Service ask us to send men here to do certain work for them
and not pay their expenses while in the city of Washington, and I
believe the purpose of your committee in the matter was to prevent
us from paying the expenses of a man who came here for several
weeks or several months at a time.
The CHAIRMAN. The director said he wanted authority to bring
men here maybe for several months to write up their reports and did
not believe they should be given subsistence. ^
Mr. MANNING. That is the point exactly; but, unfortunately, it
says “for consultation or conference.” -
The CHAIRMAN. Then the working of this language has gone be-
yond what you contemplated ? -
Mr. MANNING. Yes, sir; in other words, the comptroller holds
that if an employee of the bureau should be ordered here for a
conference or consultation by the director for a day, he can not
get his expenses while in the city. He can get his expenses up until
the time he reaches Washington. If he gets here before breakfast
and gets his breakfast, dinner, and supper in the city of Washing-
ton after his arrival, he can not be reimbursed for those expenses.
This provision I have submitted, I believe will take care of that
matter. •º
NATſ ONAL PARKS.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 14, 1915.
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STATEMENTS OF MR. W. B. ACKER, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY; MR.
MARK DANIELS, GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT AND LAND-
SCAPE ENGINEER, NATIONAL PARKS: AND COL. L. M. BRETT,
UNITED STATES ARMY, ACTING SUPERINTENDENT OF THE
YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, j
YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK–CARE OR-TRANSFER OF POLICING TO
INTERIOR DEPARTMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. “Yellowstone National Park: For administra-
tion and protection, including not exceeding $300 for maintenance
and repair of horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicles for use of the
superintendent in making inspections of the park, $5,500.” What do
you use, Colonel, a horse and wagon?
Col. BRETT. Two horses and a buggy.
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles of park road have you there?
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678 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Col. BRETT. About 350 miles.
The CHAIRMAN. Your receipts were how much?
Mr. ACRER. $60,875.43. *
The CHAIRMAN. You had a balance on July 1, 1913, of $45,066.08%
Mr. ACKER. Yes. During the season the receipts were $15,809.35.
The CHAIRMAN. You expended $14,086.66, and at the beginning
of the year you had a balance of $46,788.77.
Mr. ACKER. That was the balance on the 1st of July, 1914. The
‘Secretary of War has been insistent upon the Interior Department
taking over the entire management of Yellowstone National Park
to the end that the War Department be relieved of the expense, and
he has submitted a letter to the Secretary of the Interior showing
the probable average cost during the past year of maintenance of
troops, etc., in the reservation. The Secretary is about to submit to
Congress an estimate in the sum of about $68,570 for the care and
maintenance of Yellowstone National Park during the ensuing fiscal
year, which would relieve the War Department entirely. The War De-
partment estimates the expense of maintenance of troops at Yellow-
stone Park alone, exclusive of the cost of transportation and Sup-
plies, based on the average for the past four years, at over $275,000
per annum, so that if it is taken over by the Interior Department it
would effect a considerable saving.
Mr. SHERLEY. Would it? Would you do away with that expense
for those same troops somewhere else?
The CHAIRMAN. It would just add $65,570 to the entire expense.
Mr. DANIELs. It is the assumption of the Secretary that the Sol-
diers can do other classes of work which will result in more effi-
cient expenditure of money than by expending it in maintaining
parks, as has been evidenced by the civil administration of Yosemite
and Sequoia Parks,
The º But this park is under the War Department by
reason of legislation enacted by Congress. Congress put it under
the War Departument deliberately, and I think it intends that it shall
remain there.
Mr. SHERLEY. Presumably the Secretary of War will want to make
Some statement to this committee if he wants to ask for that Sort of
legislation, because Congress does not legislate by exchange of letters
from one department to another.
Mr. ACKEit. The letter from the Secretary of War to which I re-
ferred will be incorporated as a part of the papers connected with
the proposed estimate of $68,570.
FEED FOR BUFFALO.
§ º
The CIAIRMAN. “For proguring feed for buffalo and salaries of
buffalo keepers, $3,000.”
You have how large a herd of buffaloes?
Col. BRETT. About 184 in the tame herd, which are the Ones We
feed. We estimate the wild herd at about 60 now.
Mr. SHERLEY. Are they increasing any?
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; we had 32 or 33 calves during the past year.
Mr. SHERLEY. In the tame herd? . -
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir. **
Mr. SHERLEY. Is the wild herd increasing?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 6.79
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; increasing very nicely. It will increase right
along until we have a very severe winter, and then it will be cut off
Somewhat, because they are so high up that they do not drift down
into the lower levels when a storm comes. They have been kept up
there So long that they won’t drift down, but take their chances in the
valleys there.
Mr. SHERLEY. And you can not drive them down?.
Col. BRETT. Yes, sir; we could; but they are so scattered through
Certain parts of the park that it would be very hard to find them.
Mr. SHERLEY. They do not all stay in one herd?
Col. BRETT. No; they break off into a good many herds.
GLACTER NATIONAL PARK, CARE AND IMPROVEMENT.
[See p. 942.]
The CHAIRMAN. Glacier National Park, Mont., for administration
and improvement, construction of roads, trails, etc., the appropria-
tion is $75,000, and your estimate is $75,000. What has been done
during the current year? You have been authorized to build a road
that went partly through the Blackfeet Reservation.
Mr. ACKER. That has been completed and is in use during the
present year. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you an entrance on the eastern side?
Mr. ACKER. On the eastern side, via Glacier Park station, thence
through the Indian reservation leading into the park at Swift Cur-
rent Creek. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. And you have an entrance from the southerly
side?
Mr. ACKER. We have an entrance at Belton, Mont., on the line of
the Great Northern.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you want the $75,000 for? - - -
Mr. ACKER. That includes the necessary cost of salaries and im-
provement and maintenance.
The CHAIRMAN. What is it you want to do?
Mr. ACKER. Mr. Daniels will explain that proposed expenditure.
The CHAIRMAN. Of this $75,000, how much is for salaries?
Mr. ACKER. $22,400.
The CHAIRMAN. And the balance is to be expended on roads and
trails?
Mr. ACKER. Roads and trails and other improvements in the park.
The CHAIRMAN. What necessity is there for that expenditure?
Mr. DANIELs. It has been the intention of the Secretary to con-
form to the wishes of Congress and the Committee on Appropria-
tions to attempt to put the parks on a self-supporting basis as soon
as possible, and following his instructions I have made an analysis
of the road-and-trail system with a view to their revenue-producing
capacity through the admission of automobiles, and a charge for
automobiles over them, as well as connecting up Scenic areas and
opening up scenic points. The road the Government has now runs
from Fish Creek to the south end of Lake McDonald and thence to
Belton. A road was built by the Great Northern Railway Co. from
Glacier Park station, on the Great Northern Railway, through the
Blackfeet Indian Reservation to a point on Divide Creek, where it
crosses the park boundary on the east. From this point to St. Marys
680 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Camp, on St. Marys Lake, a road was constructed by the Govern-
ment. From St. Marys along the eastern side of lower St. Marys
Lake and thence along the Swift Current Creek, in the Blackfeet
Indian Reservation, and then following said creek to Many Glaciers,
a road was constructed by the Government during the past year.
According to a diagrammatic analysis of the road system the cheapest
that could be built that would allow traffic is this one [indicating].
What this estimate calls for is a construction of a portion of this
segment and this segment here, and eventually we will have this
system in here with a fire-control station here for the collection of
fees and a control station at these three points.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are the roads that have been built? -
Mr. DANIELs. This road is built, and this one which is in Canada,
and a portion of this one here, about to this point [indicating].
This road is an old road.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this road in Canada [indicating] }
Mr. DANIELs. From here on it is in Canada.
The CHAIRMAN. Who built that road 3
Mr. DANIELs. That is an old road that has been there for a great
many years. This [indicating] is not the road that the Government
built. This portion in here was built by the Government. This is
an old road which exists and which needs repair. This estimate of
$28,000 is to continue this road and to continue this road [indi-
cating]. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles are there of these roads con-
templated? & - -
Mr. DANIELs. All told in this park? w
The CHAIRMAN. I mean these roads you have indicated here.
Mr. DANIELs. That amounts to about 90 miles, I believe.
The CHAIRMAN. How much has been built already?
Mr. DANIELs. Within the park boundaries about 20 miles.
The CHAIRMAN. Twenty miles out of 90 miles?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes. The confusion in my mind arises from the
fact that the Government has built some roads outside of the park
in the Indian reservation from funds of the park which was provided
by special legislation.
The CHAIRMAN. That was only authorized for this year?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes; we get a revenue from the automobiles in the
bark. -
} The CHAIRMAN. You have access from Belton up to McDonald’s
Lake. That is on what railroad?
Mr. DANIELs." The Great Northern.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, over here at Glacier Park station there is a
station there and a road running through the Blackfeet Indian Reser-
vation to the other camp site.
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it along that road that the chalets were built?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir; there have been some chalets built in the
park at this point and at this point [indicating] along the road.
Another road has been built around here to McDermott Lake, and
there is a very large camp being built there now ; quite a large hotel.
The CHAIRMAN. So at present you have access from the railroad
station into the park to the various camping places'
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 681.
Mr. DANIELs. To some of the camping places, but not all of them;
to the foot of McDonald, to Upper St. Marys Lake, and to Lake
McDermott. # -
The CHAIRMAN. These roads that you refer to continue from the
foot of Lake McDonald to the south. Where does this one from the
east go? - -
Mr. DANIELs. It follows along the northern boundary of Lake Mc-
Donald to the foot of the Great Divide and then branches off, cross-
ing through the pass to the head of Upper St. Marys Lake, and one
branch to Waterton Lake on the Canadian border. -
The CHAIRMAN. What do you figure a mile for these roads?
Mr. DANIELS. Those Surveys have not been made, only a portion
of them, by the Bureau of Roads, and their estimate for the portion
they have surveyed, I believe, is about $3,500 a mile.
The CHAIRMAN. For an automobile road?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes; some of it is in a country where it is very
difficult to build roads.
The CHAIRMAN. How wide is the road you build there for auto-
mobiles?
Mr. DANIELs. The roads We are building now are 14 feet wide.
Heretofore they have been 18 and 20 feet. If we can get a system
of circulating roads in each of the parks we can eventually get the
parks on a self-supporting basis. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What basis have you for that statement?
Mr. DANIELS. I have made some diagrammatical analyses of reve-
nues and appropriations as they now exist, with estimates predicated
upon the reports of traffic managers of railroads and tourist asso-
ciations as to what travel we could get in the future to show what
relation we get between revenue and travel, and from that, carrying
the curve out to the year 1924, we find that in 1924, if we can get
the circulation through the park by roads and get the concessionaires
in there, we can put the parks on a Self-supporting basis.
Mr. SHERLEY. You state a conclusion without stating very much
of the facts upon which you base your conclusion. What do you
expect to charge and what attendants do you contemplate you will
have?
Mr. DANIELs. The revenues in the parks are divided into four
classes. We have revenues from natural resources, from public
utilities that are operated by the Government, such as telephone
systems, lighting systems and power; indirect taxes, in the form of
charges to concessionaires, and direct taxes, in the form of entrange
charges to automobiles. Now, in the Yosemite last year we took in
about $4,033.45 from automobile fees, and this year we expect the
receipts will be much greater.
Mr. SHEREEy. Of course this will be an abnormal year. Let us go
back to this particular park and your prophecy as to it.
Mr. DANIELs. If we had a road through the park as a link in the
highway system now being built outside of the parks in the north-
west, we would get quite a number of automobiles; I would say from
1,000 to 1,500 automobiles through that park next year.
Mr. SHERLEY. How many did you have last year?
Mr. AckBR. The automobile service is comparatively limited,
because the road runs from Belton down to the South end of Lake
McDonald, which is a 24-mile strip, and that is where the regu-
682 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
lar licensed automobiles go. But automobiles come in from Glacier
Park and run through the Indian reservation entering the park up
near Swift Current Creek and going up to Many Glaciers. That is
run by the Glacier Park Transportation Co., a corporation under
contract with the department of June 5, 1914.
Mr. SHERLEY. That does not answer my question.
Mr. ACKER. The Glacier Park Transportation Co. during the sea-
son of 1914 operated ten 40-horsepower passenger open busses and
five 7-passenger 40-horsepower touring cars. It carried the follow-
ing passengers:
Glacier Park to St. Marys______— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 3, 305
St. Marys to Many Glaciers___ - –––– 1, 421
Many Glaciers to St. Mary's__ 1,051.
St. Marys to Glacier Park 2, 757
Glacier Palºk to TWO Medicine and return - - ––– 119
Glacier Park to Cult Bank and return 60
Automobile permits were issued by the Government over the road
from Belton to Lake McDonald for 249 single round trips at $1 each,
18 season permits at $5 each, and 4 round-trip motorcycle permits at
$1 each. -
Mr. DANIELs. I can give it very closely from this table. We took
in $341 on automobile fees, but that is necessarily very low because
there is no route to go through the park. If we had a road through
the park, those which now follow this road [indicating] would
naturally take the proposed road through the park.
Mr. SHERLEY. What do you charge them?
Mr. ACKER. They charge $1 to enter and go around that road from
Belton to the foot of Lake McDonald and return and $5 for a season
permit. The people enter the park from the east in automobiles of
the Glacier Park Transportation Co., in which they transport them
through the Indian reservation and then to the various points in the
park. I have not the schedule of their rates. . .
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you mean that they do not pay anything to the
Government?
Mr. ACKER. Oh, yes; the company pays for that privilege.
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand the company does, but do the people
pay for that privilege?
Mr. ACKER. No, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. What does the company pay?
Mr. ACKER. The Glacier Park Transportation Co., under its con-
tract with the department of June 15, 1914, operates an automobile
transportation line over the roads in the park coming into the reserva-
tion or leaving by the eastern entrance thereof via the Glacier Park
Station, Mont. It pays for the privilege $40 per annum for each
acre of land used in connection,therewith, and $12.50 for each auto-
mobile 'bus capable of carrying from 10 to 12 passengers, and the
same rate for each 7-passenger touring car per annum in advance, the
right being reserved to the Secretary of the Interior to increase or
diminish the rates whenever in his judgment the circumstances or
condition of travel in the park Warrant.
Mr. DANIELs. The vehicular and horse-drawn transportation in
Glacier Park produced $1,220 last year to the Government. -
Mr. SHERLEY. How many people went there?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 683
Mr. DANIELs. Over 14,000. If these roads were built through there
We would charge the same rate for admission into this park that we
do to the Yosemite Park, $5. There were nearly 300 automobiles that
Went in here over the Small bits of road they can now use.
Mr. SHERLEY. $5 per automobile or per person?
Mr. DANIELs. Per automobile. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you charge anything per capita ?
Mr. DANIELs. No.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why don’t you?
Mr. DANIELs. That has been under consideration.
Mr. SHERLEY. I know it has, for about 20 years.
Mr. DANIELs. Automobiles have only been admitted to the park
very recently. !
Mr. SHERLEY. But a per capita charge has been discussed ever
since I have been in Congress, yet I have never been able to get any-
body to do it. - -
Mr. DANIELS. If we had the roads there that we are now attempting
to build we could get an automobile revenue beginning with next year
of between $1,500 and $2,000 as against $300 now, and we could grad-
ually increase that ; in other words, if we want to put the parks on a
Self-supporting basis there is a certain amount of development work
that would have to be done in order to justify charges.
Mr. SHERLEY. How much of this road do you expect to do with this
$52,000? * *
Mr. DANIELs. Ten miles.
Mr. SHERLEY. Out of a total of how much?.
Mr. DANIELs. Ninety miles. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Then, on that basis your entire scheme is going to
cost half a million dollars? -
Mr. DANIELs. About $300,000 is my approximate estimate based on
nothing but traveling over the road on foot without surveying in-
struments. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. At the rate you are now going it would be consider-
ably over $300,000? .
Mr. DANIELs. Some of this road would cost less than the one now
proposed to be built. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. Then you think that having expended a half million
dollars on these roads you will get what revenue from them?
Mr. DANIELs. By the time the half a million dollars is spent I
believe we will have a revenue of between $15,000 and $20,000 a year
from automobile usage of the roads alone. -
Mr. SHERLEY. It would take pretty heavy traffic through there to
bring in $15,000 revenue at your present charges?
Mr. DANIELs. It would mean 3,000 automobiles, and I think by the
time the roads are built there will be that travel. .
Mr. SHERLEY. Where do you expect to get this automobile travel,
transcontinental or what? You do not expect it in that locality?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir; there is quite a bit of automobile travel
through there from Missoula and Great Falls and the northwestern
towns. They are going to link this park into a transcontinental
highway, and, of course, everybody who travels over that highway
will go through the park. - -
The CHAIRMAN. How many visitors did you have in the park last
year?
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Mr. DANIELs. Fourteen thousand one hundred and sixty-eight,
visitors—from the western or Belton entrance, 5,976, and from the
Glacier Park station or eastern entrance, 6,192.
The CHAIRMAN. Does that include all of the campers?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. How does that compare with the preceding year?
Mr. ACKER. There were 12,000 in the preceding year. There has
been a gradual increase right along—4,000 in 1911, 6,000 in 1912,
12,000 in 1913, and 14,000 in 1914; 1914 was a bad year. -
The CHAIRMAN. The receipts in 1914 were $4,775.71.
Mr. SHERLEY. How much of this travel into the park is local or
from the immediate neighborhood?
Mr. ACKER. A very small proportion of it. •
Mr. SHERLEY. What is the nearest large city to the park?
Mr. ACKER. I.Calispell, Mont., and Great Falls, Mont.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is there any big city near there?
Mr. DANIELs. Helena is the nearest large point.
Yosſ. MITE NATIONAL PARK, CARE AND IMPROVEMENT.
[See p. 691.]
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is the Yosemite National Park,
Cal. For protection and improvement, construction and repair of
bridges, fences, and trails, and improvement of roads, etc., the cur-
rent appropriation is $100,000, and your estimate is $100,000. What
is the situation at the Yosemite National Park? What work are you
doing there this year? - -
Mr. DANIELs. We are doing two classes of work there—that which
is being done in the office of the general superintendent in the way
of planning for additional concessions for the purpose of develop-
ing revenue and construction work in the park. The construction
work in the park has consisted principally of new trails, a water-
distribution system for the village, the improvement of the road to
the El Portal entrance, and also the repair of three roads coming in
from the north, west, and south so as to make them available for
automobile travel. I believe that the Yosemite Park is in a very
good position to be put on a self-supporting basis.
The CHAIRMAN. It will require a lot of money to do that. What
roads are you building now?
Mr. DANIELs. There are no new roads being built.
The CHAIRMAN. There is a very extensive road being reconstructed
there. What road is that?
Mr. DANIELs. The El Portal road. That work was done last
year and some the year before. That is the road from El Portal up
to what is known as the BlackSmith Shop.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you propose to do with this $100,000?
The road that was reconstructed was a very expensive road.
Mr. ACKER. Some parts of the road cost as high as $12,000 per
mile. I think that the average expenditure per mile was $9,700. .
Mr. DANIELs. That road was built by the Yosemite Valley Rail-
road Co. originally and then turned over to the Government. The
Government has been widening that road to take care of the auto:
mobile buses which are carrying passengers from the terminals of
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the railroad to the village in the floor of the valley. That widening
is necessary, because these buses are quite wide, and when two of
them meet there must be room for them to pass. This road is nearly
all in a rocky slide, where there are vast bowlders as large as this
room. It is a great ridge of monolithic rock that must be blasted out
and earth filled in.
Mr. SHERLEY. That is true of only a part of the road. As I recall
it, a part of that road is like this floor.
Mr. DANIELs. That is after you get into the valley. Nothing is
being done on that road.
Mr. SHERLEY. What roads have you now approaching the park
from the north and south'
Mr. DANIELs. They are not very good roads.
Mº; SHERLEY. Is the State doing anything toward making them
good? &
"Mr. DANIELs. The State is building there a highway system to
connect with those roads. It is doing considerable work on the
roads up to the boundary of the park.
Mr. SHERLEY. What I am after is this: Is there any prospect in
the future of having the State develop its road system to the park,
at the north and south boundaries, so as to make a highway the
length of the State that would be used by automobiles in any large
numbers in going through the park?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir; that is being done now. They are build-
ing one road, or they have voted bonds to build a road to Mariposa,
which will be a concrete and asphalt highway, and which will come
very close to the lower reaches of the Merced River and come within
the valley. They are also connected with the Big Oak Flat and
Coulterville roads on the north. It may also be reached by coming
in by way of Wawona from the south.
Mr. SHERLEY. They have a pretty good system of roads along the
coast from Los Angeles.
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. Are there any roads branching from the coast roads
by which you can travel over to the park?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir; they have a duplicate of that coast sys-
tem—that is, a concrete base with an asphalt top—which runs right
along parallel with the mountain range, with spurs running off north
into the park, which are now being developed by the State in their
highway system.
Mr. SHERLEY. When they shall have developed a new system of
roads to the north and south ends of the park, what condition will
the park be in for a road through it?
Mr. DANIELs. It will be in a rather poor condition. There were
10,000 automobiles last year that went to Lake Tahoe, but the park
was not in condition in time to catch much of that travel. Two
automobile associations say that we can safely assume that there
will be over 3,000 automobiles in the Yosemite Park this next year,
which means a revenue of $15,000. There is no reason why the Yo-
semite Park could not get this travel as well as Lake Tahoe. If we
could get 6,000 or 8,000 automobiles through there it would mean a
revenue of $30,000 or $40,000, but in order to do that we must have
Some roads that they can travel on without endangering the frames
of their machines.
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The CHAIRMAN. What work are you contemplating doing with
this $100,000 next year?
Mr. DANIELs. The salary item is $28,000, and the item for the con-
struction and improvement of roads, trails, bridges, and culverts is
$36,000. That is for some work on the El Portal road, but not so
much as we have done before; further improvement of the Coulter-
ville and Big Oak Flat roads, which are now not much more than
passable; the construction of a bridge which has been washed out on
the floor of the valley; the surfacing of roads on the floor of the
Valley on which there is a very deep dust from disintegrated granite,
making them almost impassable in the dry season. I can go through
the remaining items, if you desire.
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know what you propose to do with the
$100,000. ./
Mr. DANIELs. We are going to pay the salaries of the men for the
administration
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). The salary item, you stated, is
$28,000, and the construction item is $36,000. That accounts for
$64,000.
Mr. DANIELs. That $36,000 is for construction work, and the re-
mainder is distributed among the maintenance of roads, trails, and
bridges.
The CHAIRMAN. How many miles of road are there in the park?
Mr. DANIELs. I do not recall it. I think there are 235 miles.
The CHAIRMAN. Of roads or trails?
Mr. DANIELs. Of roads; but only a few miles of that, compara-
tively speaking, is open for travel.
The CHAIRMAN. If they are not open for travel, they are not
much roads. *
Mr. DANIELs. More of them are to be opened for travel So that We
can carry tourists over them to points where we are establishing new
concessions. -
The CHAIRMAN. We have had no information yet that is worth
anything as to how you propose to expend this $100,000. If you
can give the information we will be glad to have it.
Mr. DANIELs. $28,000 is for salaries and $36,00 for betterment
and construction work. . -
The CHAIRMAN. Is this new construction work?
Mr. DANIELs. Not entirely. It is very difficult •
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Well, we want to know. We can
not form any opinion as to whether we ought to recommend this
appropriation or not unless you can give us some information
about it.
Mr. DANIELs. It is difficult to segregate what is absolutely and
strictly maintenance and what is strictly new construction. ... Some-
times the betterment of a road that is almost out of use, while tech-
nically called betterment, is really new construction. In general the
$36,000 is for new work. The remaining items are, I think, very
clearly presented in the list, there. º
The CHAIRMAN. In addition to the appropriation of $100,000 you
had $49,352.78 available from receipts. That was for the year ending
June 30, 1914. .You had that much money available and you ex:
pended $20,429.69 of the receipts, leaving an unexpended balance of
$28,923. Why are the receipts accumulated in these parks?
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Mr. ACRER. It was not necessary to use more than that amount
from revenues in view of the complete allotment of the appropriation.
The revenues fluctuate from year to year; sometimes they increase
and Sometimes, owing to the cancellation of concessions and non-
renewals, they diminish. No dependence can be placed upon any
fixed revenue until some more stable form of leasing is developed.
At the present time we do not grant any concessions except for a
period of one year. The only concession that runs longer than one
vear is the concession for transportation from the railroad terminals,
which is on a three-years basis. That is because of the fact that the
department has been looking forward to the construction of a hotel
in the valley, and everything has been subservient to that idea. Mr.
Daniels can tell you about the steps being taken to secure the con-
struction of a hotel during the coming year.
The CHAIRMAN. You have been carrying along a balance of about
$25,000 from receipts.
Mr. ACKER. Practically that. -
Mr. DANIELs. It is almost essential that we have an emergency
fund in case of serious fires.
The CHAIRMAN. That is no reason for it.
GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS.
I notice here an item for the compensation of the general super-
intendent of national parks; who is the general superintendent of
national parks?
Mr. DANIELs. Myself. -
The CHAIRMAN. When was your position created, or where was it
created?
Mr. DANIELs. On June 4.
The CHAIRMAN. Of what year?
Mr. DANIELs. Nineteen hundred and fourteen.
The CHAIRMAN. How was it created ? -
Mr. DANIELs. I do not know; I am not familiar with the legal
procedure.
Mr. ACKER. That matter was passed upon by the comptroller as
to the authority of the Secretary to provide for an officer of that
kind and pay him from the appropriations or from the revenues of
the parks, as the case might be. This is a copy of the opinion of the
comptroller. -
(The opinion referred to is as follows:)
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
OFFICE OF COMPTROLLER OF THE TREASURY,
Washington, June 8, 1914.
;
The honol'ablo the SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR.
SIR : I have your letter of the 1st instant, requesting my decision as to
whether the revenues from national parks or the appropriations for the ad-
ministration of said parks would be available to pay for the services of Mr.
Mark Daniels should you see fit to employ him as a superintendent of national
parks “to go from park to park planning proposed improvements in roads.
bridges, buildings, etc., and give personal direction to the men in the parks
themselves *—his salary and expenses to be apportioned to the various parks
for Which he workS.
I understand from your submission that the object sought to be accomplished
by the employment of Mr. Daniels is the improvement of national parks.
Congress has, in connection with the appropriation of funds and otherwise,
imposed upon the Secretary of the Interior the duty of improving certain
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Jiational parks. Therefore, if in the administration of your office you deem it
necessary or advisable to employ Mr. Daniels in connection with any national
park improvement work for which funds have been |Drovided to be expended
under your direction, I am of opinion that any Such funds, whether arising
from park revenues or from specific appropriations made by Congress, are avail-
able for the payment of his salary and expenses in the manner proposed.
You do not State in which of the national parks it is proposed to utilize
Mr. Daniels's services and the laws are not altogether uniform with respect
to the use of the revenues and appropriations of the various pal'kS. But the
*ppropriation for most of the parks under your control, and also the revenues
from Some of them, are authorized to be expended for the “ improvement” of .
Said parks.
Both the appropriations and the reventies of Yosemite. Wind Cave, and
Glacier National Parks provide for the improvement of said parkS. In Such
gases either or both may be used at your discretion for the purpose con-
templated.
The revenues from the Yellowstone, Mount Rainier, Sequoia, and General
Grant National Parks can not be used for the general improvement of said
parks, but Only in the management thereof and the construction of roads and
bridal paths therein. (See section 2475, R. S.; section 2, act Mar. 2, 1899,
30 Stat., 994; section 2, act of Sept. 25, 1890, 26 Stat., 478; section 2, act
of Oct. 1, 1890, 26 Stat., 651). Therefore, Mr. Daniels's salary and expenses
can not be paid from Said revenues, except to the extent that his services in
each of Said parks are in connection with the work of constructing roads and
bridal paths. But the appropriation for each of said parks, except Yellow-
stone (see Sundry civil act of June 23, 1913, 38 Stat., 49 and 50), provides for
“improvement * as does also the appropriation for Crater Lake, Glacier,
Mesa Verde, Wind Cave, and Yosemite National Parks.
It appears that neither the revenues from the Yellowstone National Park
nor the appropriation therefor, under your control, is authorized to be ex-
pended for the improvement of said park. }
Except for such minor limitations as necessarily follow from the facts stated
above, there is no apparent reason why you may not proceed as Outlined in
your letter.
Respectfully,
GEORGE E. Dow NEY, Comptroller.
Mr ACKER. I would like to submit, also, for the consideration of
the committee, a supplemental opinion by the comptroller bearing on
this same question. -
(The supplemental opinion referred to is as follows:)
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Washington, December 21, 1914.
The honorable the SECRETARY OF TIII, INTERIOR.
SIR : I have your letter of the 18th instant, in which, after referring to a
decision of this office of June 3, 1914 (69 MS. Comp. Dec., 1271), relative to
the employment of a superintendent of national parks, you state that, for rea-
sons hereinafter mentioned, it is desirable to supplement the superintendent
with two or three other employees. and ask whether there are any legal objec-
tions to providing such employees and apportioning their salaries and park
expenses to the parks in which they are to work.
In the above-mentioned decision of this office it was held that, with certain
limitations therein indicated, the revenues or the appropriations for the various
national parks under the control of the Secretary of the Interior were available
to pay the salary and expenses of a superintendent of national parks—this
mpon the presumption that the object of his employment was the improvement
of national parkS. -
In the present case you state, in effect, that the employees are needed to regu-
late concessions granted, and to supervise the accounts of concessions and park
employees, in order that the parks may be in proper condition to meet the en-
larged travel which is expected to occur within the coming year. It would thus
appear that the object of the proposed employment is the better management or
administration of the parkS. -
Congress h;1 s ("lºi rged the Secretary of the Interior with the proper manage-
rºle; it of certain national parks andl, by acts of appropriation or acts desig-
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nating the uses to which the revenues of the parks may be applied, has pro-
Vided the funds from which to pay the expenses of management thereof.
The Secretary being charged with the management of the parks it follows
that a large discretion is, of necessity, vested in him as to what are, or are not,
proper expenses of management. Accordingly, if in your discretion you deem
the Services of the employees desired necessary to the proper management of
the parkS-—it being presumed that said services will be rendered in the parks
and not at the seat of Government—I know of no lawful reason why their sala-
ries and proper expenses may not be paid from any funds available for expenses
of management, arising either from appropriations or from revenues of the
parks; or why said Salaries and expenses may not be apportioned in the manner
suggested in your letter.
Respectfully,
GFO. E. Dow N EY. (ſomptrollcr'.
4 DECEMBER 24, 1914.
The COMPTROLLER OF THE TREASURY.
SIR : In your letter of December 21, 1914, in relation to providing employees
Outside Of Washington in Connection with the Office of superintendent of national
parks, you state, in the third paragraph of page 2, “it being presumed that said
Service will be rendered in the parks and not at the Seat of Government.”
I understand that your meaning is not that the Service must be rendered
exclusively “in the parks,” but that such services must be rendered in the field
as distinguished from Services “at the seat of Government.” * -
Please let me know if such interpretation is correct.
Hespectfully,
FRANKLIN K. LANE, Secretary.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Washington, December 26, 1914.
The honorable the SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR. ſº
SIR : I have your letter of the 24th instant in which, with reference to my
decision of the 21st instant relative to certain employees of national parks, you
ask whether the statement “it being presumed that Said Services will be ren-
dered in the parks and not at the seat of government,” appearing therein,
means that the services need not be rendered exclusively in the parks but may
be rendered in the field as distinguished from the seat of government at Wash-
ington. - *
The statement quoted refers only to services to be performed at Washington,
this in view of the act of August 5, 1882 (22 Stat., 255).
From the inquiry appearing in the Submission on which the decision in ques-
tion was rendered as to your authority to apportion the Salaries and park
expenses of the employees “to the parks in which they work,” it would appear
that the Services of the employees were to be rendered only in the parks. How-
ever, if you deem it desirable that the employees perform their Services in the
field and elsewhere than in the parks or Washington, I know of no lawful
reason why said services may not be so performed, providing the Services
relate to the management or administration Of the parkS.
Respectfully,
GEO. I.). I}oWNEY. Comptroller.
Mr. DANIELs. The purpose of that, I might say, was to do away
with the superintendents in each national park and provide super-
visors at a lower salary, which would more than offset the salary of
the general superintendent; and it would at the same time provide a
method of having general control over the types of construction and
methods of construction in the parks, which would be a real step in
economy. ge ſº
The CHAIRMAN. What was your business? Are you an engineer?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir; a landscape engineer.
The CHAIRMAN. Tell us what has been done. Have you created
a new department or bureau?
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690 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. ACKER. No, sir. The Secretary has provided for a general
Superintendent of parks at $3,600 per annum, with headquarters at
San Francisco, from which point he makes his investigations of the
Yarious parks. He has in his office at the present time, detailed at
San Francisco, a clerk and stenographer.
The CHAIRMAN. Two employees or one?
Mr. ACKER. One temporary employee and another one.
Mr. DANIELs. One clerk and stenographer.
The CHAIRMAN. One person? *
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN: What does that employee get?
Mr. DANIELs. $1,200. e
The CHAIRMAN. Do you rent an office there?
Mr. ACKPR. We rent a room in an office building there.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you pay for that?
Mr. DANIELS. $20 per month, or $240 a year.
The CHAIRMAN. What other expense is there?
Mr. ACKER. That is all. -
Mr. SHERLEY. You started to say something about an employee.
temporarily detailed. - -
Mr. DANIELs. That is the resident engineer for the Yosemite
National Park, who has little or nothing to do during the season
When everything is Snowed under. I have had him detailed to the
office in San Francisco to work on plans for developing the Yosemite
National Park.
Mr. ACKER. You will send him back as soon as you return to San
Francisco’ -
Mr. DANIELs. Yes. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Under this decision of the comptroller it appears
that it is contemplated to employ various employees in this work
and pay them either out of the appropriations we make each year
or out of the revenues derived from the parks. I do not think Con-
gress ever contemplated any employees whose duties were not per-
formed in the parks being paid out of these moneys appropriated or
from the revenues. -
Mr. ACKER. The comptroller held
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Under that decision of the comp-
troller you could build up any kind of force you pleased so long as
the money lasted. 3. . . . . . º
Mr. ACKER. They want an officer for administration work in the
parks. For instance, each one of the concessionaires in the larger.
parks is required to submit to the department annually a financial
report as to assets and liabilities. That is required in detail, just
the same as is required to be submitted in connection with the in:
come tax or corporation tax returns to the Commissioner of Internal
Revenue, except in more detail. Those reports are required to be
sworn to. The department has to take the oath of the parties who
submit the statements, and it has no means at the present time of
having their books examined to determine whether or not the re-
ports are true. . . - -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the chief clerk of the department for?
Mr. DANIELs. I would like to say that a man in one park may
work out a system for building trails, which will be considerably
cheaper than the system the men in some other parks are using. A
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man in one park sometimes becomes very skillful in the matter of
fighting forest fires and succeeds in putting out fires more quickly
and less expensively than some other man.
The CHAIRMAN. We have a great Forest Service to supply all the
information required on that subject?
Mr. DANIELs. But you can not teach a park sliperintendent how to
fight fires through bulletins. I never knew of a sick baby being
cured by mail. You can not work this out by correspondence. We
should have one man to go around personally and inspect the parks,
and, in addition to that, to have one officer who is working in all
of the parks is of considerable value in the establishment of a park
policy or a park administration system, including record-keeping, etc.
YosºMITE NATIONAL PARK, CARE, ETC.
[See p. 684.]
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking permission to use not exceeding
$2,700 for the maintenance and repair of horse-drawn passenger-
carrying vehicles for the use of the superintendent, supervisor, resi-
dent engineer, and employees in connection with general park work.
How many passenger-carrying vehicles have you there?
Mr. DANIELs. We have three—two passenger-carrying vehicles and
one that is not only a passenger-carrying vehicle, but it is used some-
times for hauling materials. These vehicles are used principally in
hauling the men back and forth from their work to the headquarters
in the valley.
The CHAIRMAN. How many horses have you there?
Mr. DANIELs. The number of horses in the valley varies.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking $2,700 for the maintenance and
repair of horse-drawn vehicles. In the Yellowstone you have one
horse-drawn vehicle, and ask $300 for its maintenance. -
Mr. DANIELs. They also have troops patroling the park. The
troops do most of their patroling. &
The CHAIRMAN. I am asking you about this provision. This is
just for the maintenance of horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicles
for the use of officials and employees.
Mr. DANIELs. No, sir; it is not. The statement is not correct here,
if it gives that impression. -
The CHAIRMAN. Twenty-seven hundred dollars is a considerable
sum for the maintenance of vehicles there.
Mr. ACKER. That includes painting, repairs, equipment, new har-
ness, whips, laprobes •
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How many rigs would be included
in this?
Mr. ACKER. I do not recollect just now, but I can supply that in-
formation. -
The CHAIRMAN. Then supply it in the record.
Mr. ACKER. The park has four hourse-drawn passenger carrying
vehicles, viz, a four-horse stage of eight passenger capacity, used
from time to time by park employees in going to and from the rail-
road station and at times in showing prominent visitors about the
park; a two-horse surrey of capacity of 4 passengers, heretofore ex-
clusively used by the United States Army officer, acting Superin-
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tendent, but now used for the same purpose as the four-horse stage
above mentioned when only a light load is to be carried; a two-horse
buggy, used by the supervisor and other employees when necessary
when going about work for quick trips to points that can be reached
over wagon roads; a one-horse buckboard, used by the resident engi-
neer and park empléyees for practically the same purposes as the
two-horse buggy.
Mr. DANIELs. Before going to the next item, I would like to say
that this year, since I have been Working on it, we have planned a
new location for the present village. It is very congested and there
is no room in it to put a hotel. We have moved the location across
the Merced River, and by virtue of that plan have persuaded a cap-
italist in the West to build a very large hotel from which we will
derive considerable revenue. We have also secured an application
for the privilege of building five accommodation stations or chalet
camps further out in the park, which is along the line of our effort
to relieve the congestion in the floor of the valley during the tourist
Se2SOI).
The CHAIRMAN. Does the law authorize you to grant an alternate
concession for a hotel? .
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. A year or two ago you spoke of a very large hotel
that was to be built, and then something happened.
Mr. ACKER. Mr. Frank Miller, of Riverside, Cal., was unable to
secure the necessary capital. On account of the condition of the
money market, the war, etc., he could not consummate his arrange-
ments. -- -
The CHAIRMAN. He is expecting to go ahead now ! -
Mr. DANIELs. This is a different party. I have the plans of the
arrangement of the village, showing some of the new concessions,
which I should like to have the privilege of showing to you.
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
Mr. DANIELs. One of the serious difficulties is the fact that the
people come in and concentrate on the floor of the Valley and we
have not enough accommodations to provide for the tourists during
the season of the heavy travel. We have been trying to get the
concessioners to build in the park outside of the valley So when a
congested condition arises the tourists will go out and see the rest
of the park and relieve the congestion on the floor of the valley. We
have just been able to accomplish that this year. This [indicating]
shows the location of the village with the location of the various
buildings to accommodate the concessioners. The list of buildings
for which we have applications are a hotel—there is a School and
fire station just there now—comfort station, information bureau,
markets for perishables, a general store, bakery, drug store, curio
shop, soda fountain, pool and billiard parlor, etc. Those buildings
are now in the valley on the other side of the river, but they are un-
sightly and we do not get much revenue.
The CHAIRMAN. Where are they located?
Mr. DANIELs. They would be about as far below this [indicating]
as the width of this map. By getting out plans to locate these build-
ings where they belong and where they will be more or less pictur-
esque, as we get an application we can say, “There is the location you
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must Occupy; the building will cost so much and the ground rental
will be so much.” *
The CHAIRMAN. Where are they located now %
Mr. DANIELS. They are in the valley on south side of Merced River;
they would not be shown on this map.
Mr. GILLETT. When is the Yosemite open?
Mr. DANIELs. It is open by the 1st of May and the heavy travel
begins about the 10th to the 15th. - -
M; GILLETT. Does the Government own all the buildings there
I\OW -
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. Is there any hotel there? -
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; the same hotel that was taken over from the
State of California when Congress, by the act of June 11, 1906 (34
Stat., 831), accepted recession by the State of the Yosemite Valley
grant and the Mariposa Big Tree Grove.
Mr. GILLETT. Would not anybody like to put up a good hotel?
Mr. ACKER. The department has been trying to find a responsible
party to do that. It had a proposition some two years ago, but the
party could not raise the necessary capital. We have secured new
parties who have the capital.
Mr. GILLETT. Does the Government get substantial rent from the
little buildings there now % -
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; we get $3,500 a year for the two hotel build-
ings, $1,000 for the camp—that is, $4,500 a year from the party who
operates the Central Hotel, the Glacier Point Hotel, and the Camp
Lost Arrow. *
Mr. SHERLEY. We provided some years ago for an adequate water
drainage system for the valley of the park in connection with the
camp. That is maintained? &
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir. .
Mr. SHERLEY. That has been all installed?
Mr. ACKER. It has been practically completed.
Mr. SHERLEy. It is adequate?
Mr. ACKER. It was adequate at that time, but, of course, since that
time the population in the park has been increased, and it has to be
extended to meet the new conditions. It will also have to be ex-
tended to meet the needs of this new hotel.
Mr. SIIERLEY. Did the system as installed contemplate these ex-
tensions?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; they were provided for. That was all based
upon the report as to the improvements necessary, prepared by Mr.
Leighton, of the hydrographic branch of the Geological Survey. He
visited the park and made a very careful examination and inspec-
tlOI).
Mr. GILLETT. In the Yellowstone we do not get any revenue?
Mr. ACKER. We get revenue from all hotels, franchises, and per-
mits of every character. We have revenues of more or less degree
from all the parks. -
Mr. GILLLETT. Those revenues go into the Treasury?
Mr. ACKER. Not to the credit of miscellaneous receipts. Except
as to two parks, the Mesa Verde and the Crater Lake, the revenues
are all used in the administration of the park.
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Mr. GILLETT. They do not go into the Treasury?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; as park revenues the money does not have to
be specifically appropriated by Congress. It is a permanent, indefi-
nite appropriation under the act creating the park.
Mr. GILLETT. You have that money in addition to the appropria-
tions which we make?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. DANIELs. The present village is right there [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. What portion of the park?
Mr. DANIELs. Almost in the center of Yosemite Valley. It is
proposed to move the site over to the north of the river where the
space is more open, so that we can get room for a hotel which will
be large enough to accommodate the tourists going there.
The CHAIRMAN. How far will that be?
Mr. DANIELs. About half a mile or less. This is the plan of one
of the mountain chalets which we have now persuaded a man to
construct. He is now constructing a chain of five of them through
the park.
Mr. GILLETT. What are they, little hotels?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir; outside the valley, up in the high moun-
tains.
SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, CAL.
The CIIAIRMAN. The next item is “Sequoia National Park, Cal.,”
and the appropriation is $15,550, and your estimate is the same.
How many visitors were at this park last year? -
Mr. ACKER. Last year, 4,667, and in 1913, 3,823. The increase in
the number of visitors in this park is practically due to the opening
of some of the roads to automobiles.
The CHAIRMAN. What improvements, if any, are you making here?
Mr. DANIELs. The item of $2,446 for the altering of the telephone
line is in order to get more certain communication between the head-
quarters and the outpost stations. That park is traversed by a can-
yon 5,000 feet deep, and getting from one side of the park to the
other quickly is almost impossible. We can not depend on the pres-
ent telephone system because it is not satisfactory. The construction
of the trail from Cold Spring to Hockett Meadow is also for the
purpose of quick access, without going around the canyon. The
item of $1,615 is a 1maintenance item for 33 miles of trail mentioned.
Those are the only three items that are in the estimates.
The CHAIRMAN. The revenues were $4,359.01, which came mostly
from the lease to the electric company, the other revenues amounting
only to $7.19%
Mr. ACKER. That was an unusual receipt from the Mount Whitney
Power & Electric Co., growing out of the cutting of timber along
its right of way. It is not likely to occur again. The company pays
10 cents per horsepower for first year, 1912, increasing 10 cents per
horsepower each year until tenth year, and $1 per horsepower there-
after. Last year it paid $359.40, being on 1,198 horsepower at 50
cents. & .
GENERAI, (; RA N T N ATION A I, PARIX. C.A.L,
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “General Grant National Park,
Cal.,” and the appropriation is $2,000, and your estimate is $2,000.
How many visitors were in this park?
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Mr. DANIELs. Three thousand seven hundred and thirty-five.
Mr. ACKER. As against 2,756 for the prior year. The increase in
this park is also due mainly to the opening of the roads to automo-
biles.
Mr. DANIELs. There were 130,000 registered automobiles up to the
first of this year in California, and they do a great deal of traveling
through the parks wherever open.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you charge them :
Mr. DANIELS. We charge them $1 in the General Grant National
Park, $5 in Sequoia National Park, and $5 in the Yosemite.
The CHAIRMAN. The receipts were $500.43%
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir.
MOUNT RAINIER NATIONAL PARK, WASH.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Mount Rainier National Park,
Wash.,” and the appropriation is $51,000 and your estimate is $51,000.
For the current year money was appropriated to construct a certain
road? -
Mr. ACKER. For the construction and repair of the road from the
entrance to the park to Mount Rainier Inn and for the continuation
of repairing it up to Nisqually Glacier. In prior years there was an
appropriation of $10,000 for the survey of the road from the south-
ern up to the eastern portion of the park to connect with the State
roads in the forest reservation. That work was done by contract
and the survey has just been completed, and the field notes and maps
have been received from the contractor during the Week.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the special road work that cost about
$40,000 for which the appropriation was given'
Mr. ACKER. That was based upon an estimate submitted by engi-
neers in the State of Washington. .
Mr. MoRDELL. Where is this road improvement which you propose,
15 miles, $28,000? -
Mr. DANIELs. The most of that is the continuation of the road
from the foot of Nisqually Glacier to Paradise Valley, which is very
much demanded by the automobilists It is presumed that the open-
ing of that road will bring almost double the automobile travel that
we now get, and as we charge $5 per machine for admission to the
park, the investment would be well justified, if for no other reason.
Mr. MondLLL. This is not a new road'.
Mr. DANIELs. No, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. It is the improvement of a road already built?
Mr. DANIELs. Yes, sir. It needs so much improvement that they
are inclined to estimate it as new work. -
The CHAIRMAN. The money was appropriated to improve the road
from the national park entrance to Nisqually Glacier?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is that? -
Mr. DANIELs. This is the Nisqually Glacier ſindicating].
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the entrance?
Mr. DANIELs. This is Longmire ſindicating], and the entrance is, I
think, at this point ſindicating].
The CHAIRMAN. The road from the entrance there was in good con-
dition. We appropriated for three units?
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Mr. ACKER. One of the units contemplated the widening through
that portion [indicating]. -
The CHAIRMAN. This carries it right up to the glacier?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. What road are you proposing to improve now?
Mr. DANIELs. The continuation of this road [indicating] from Nis-
qually Glacier to Paradise Valley at this point [indicating]. I went
over that this Summer. There is a road there, but it is not safe; it is
very dangerous.
The CHAIRMAN. How much will that cost? -
Mr. DANIELS. It has been estimated at $28,000. That, however,
must comprise more than that length. Along this road [indicating]
is a view of the Tatoosh Range of mountains on the south, which is
by far the finest thing to be seen in the southern part of the park.
The CHAIRMAN. 15 miles are estimated for ?
Mr. DANIELs. That includes the portion of this road up to the camp,
widening several portions here [indicating] which are in fill and
which are on a curve, where it is dangerous for automobiles to meet
or pass, the building of some culverts and a few other points along
this road.
The CHAIRMAN. How many visitors were there in this park? -
Mr. ACKER. 15,038 last year as against 13,501 in 1913. There has
been a gradual increase in the number of visitors from the time of its
creation.
The CHAIRMAN. The receipts were $9,822.27. Is that an unusual
amount? *
Mr. ACKER. There was a very large increase in the receipts due to
the great number of automobiles coming into the park.
MESA VERDE NATIONAL PARK, COLO.—USE OF REVENUES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Mesa Verde National Park,
Colo.: For protection and improvement, including not exceeding $456
for maintenance and repair of horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehi-
cles for the use of the superintendent and employees,” and the appro-
priation is $10,000 and your estimate is $10,000. How many visitors
did you have in this park? -
Mr. ACKER. Five hundred and two as against 280 last year. The
increase is due to the fact that the roads were opened to the use of
automobiles.
The CHAIRMAN. The automobiles are going into this park?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. What are you doing there?
Mr. AcKER. The principal work last year was the completion of
the roads which had been undertaken in prior years. The charac-
ter of the soil is such that it is very hard to find places where a
proper road can be constructed. It is a shale that slides easily and
has to be protected. .
Mr. DANIELs. It is a high mesa at an elevation of nearly 7,000 feet,
The mesa pitches at a grade of about 4 per cent to the southwest, and
the shale is all pitching to that direction. It is rather difficult to
keep the roads in shape, unless the road is on the mesa, and then
there is no difficulty. - -
The CHAIRMAN. The receipts were $679?
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Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir. That amount was covered into the Treasury.
The CHAIRMAN. With the exception of two permits for the trans-
portation. Of passengers—$10 each—this money all comes from con-
cessions either for grazing or coal?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; that is true.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not charge the automobiles anything?
Mr. ACKER. There were no receipts at the time of the preparation
of the estimate. Subsequently the automobiles entered there. We
have every reason to believe that there will be a very large increase
in the number of tourists in this park. Thirty-four automobile per-
mits, with revenues of $33.50 are not covered in this statement.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking that all proceeds and all revenues
be expended by the Secretary in the administration and improve-
ment of this park? -
Mr. ACKER. The people of the State object to paying a license
where the money received from that source is not used in the better-
ment of the roads.
The CHAIRMAN. Who objects?
Mr. ACKER. We have had a large number of letters from time to
time from people of various sections around the park.
The CHAIRMAN. You only had 500 visitors last year and never had
over 300 before, and you never had any automobiles or anything. I
should not think that the complaints would be very serious.
Mr. ACKER. The park is not known very well.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not spend the money where you have the
revenue? .
Mr. ACKER. In this park, of course, we have not the money.
The CHAIRMAN. In the other park? -
Mr. ACKER. There is reason for that. In the Yellowstone, for
instance, the department heretofore held the money in abeyance,
with a view to securing the construction of an administration build-
Ing.
The CHAIRMAN. Or some of the other parks?
Mr. ACKER. No, sir. It is dependent entirely upon the necessities,
and we hold a fair balance to meet any urgent demands. -
Mr. DANIELs. There is another reason. It is difficult to persuade
the superintendent of the park to redouble his efforts to increase the
revenues of the park when he does not feel that the park he is work-
ing for is going to get the benefit. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. You should get another superintendent when
these men undertake to determine what the Government is going
to do.
Mr. DANIELs. I appreciate your point. It is very difficult to find
a man who will work as hard for the revenues of his park if they
are covered into the Treasury as he would if the money was to be
expended on the improvement of the park. *
The CHAIRMAN. Perhaps all of the revenues should be covered
into the Treasury. A notion prevails in a certain portion of the
country that everything belongs to it and not to the United States,
Mr. DANIELs. The parks in the more eastern portion of the United
States have the revenues devoted to their own development.
Mr. SHERLEY. Where are they?
Mr. DANIELs, Hot Springs.
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Mr. MoWDELL. I notice that you have a number of grazing leases
in this park—one to W. F. Prater, who is charged 40 cents per head
for his cattle, 450 head, using 9,860 acres of park land. Does that
give him the exclusive use of that area?
Mr. ACKER. He has the right to graze his cattle over it.
Mr. MoRDELL. It gives him the exclusive use, to the exclusion of
others, over that area º
Mr. ACKER. There has never been any distinction made as to
whether or not the cattle of the other permittee should not go on the
land. They simply get that number of acres in the park.
Mr. 'MoRDELL. I notice that you give J. A. Frink a lease for 765
head of cattle on 28,000 acres. That is about 400 acres to an animal,
and to Roy G. Waters for 120 head, 4,800 acres, about 400 acres to an
animal. That is more land than they need even in that sparsely
grassed country, and it is rather important to know whether that is
an exclusive use that might give these people an opportunity to in-
crease the number of cattle, unless you keep pretty close track of
the number they have. - -
Mr. ACKER. The superintendent is supposed to keep track of the
number of cattle as best he can with the rangers we have. I assume
that the people do not graze any more cattle than they are author-
ized to. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Are they allotted a certain section?
Mr. ACKER. I can not say as to that just now without looking at
the permit.
Mr. MoRDELL. This statement would indicate that they were.
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand it would, but I want to find out the
actual facts.
Mr. ACKER. I can look at the permit and see.
Mr. MONDELL. That is a very reasonable fee, and the query in my
mind was whether or not if in charging that fee per head you also
gave the exclusive use of certain areas, and whether that does not
tempt those people to keep more stock than they are paying for. It
is not a very important matter, but I think it is one well worth look-
ling up.
Mr. ACKER. There are only two rangers and it would be a very
hard matter to thrash that out. The two rangers are also employed
on other character of work.
Mr. MoRDELL. I do not know about that. If they are people who
know anything about stock and the stock business, it would take
them but a very short time to determine approximately and with
sufficient acturacy the number of animals that were ordinarily graz-
ing. It would not be necessary to count them every day. If they
could ride through Once a month they would be keeping themselves
pretty well informed. e
Mr. ACKER. My impression is these grazing rangers are not very
near the places where these rangers are most of the time.
Mr. MoRDELL. But these men undoubtedly have ponies?
Mr. ACKER. Yes; they are required to provide their own horses.
Mr. MoRDELL. It would not take a man very long to ride over that
park on horseback? - *
Mr. DANIELs. The park is divided into natural parcels by these
canyons. -
Mr. MoRDFI.L. I understand that.
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Mr. DANIELs. I am not certain this is the case, but I imagine that
the acreage is determined by the size of the mesa between canyons.
Mr. MoRDELL. I have no doubt but what that is true.
Mr. DANIELs. I know one grazing permit is on one mesa and an
other is on another mesa, but whether they comprise the entire mesa
or not I do not know. e
Mr. ACKER. In addition to the grazing permits above mentioned,
Roy G. Waters had a permit covering 4,800 acres, on which to graze
120 head of cattle, which was to serve as a basis for the computation
of the grazing fees for the year ended December 31, 1914. He paid
at the rate of 40 cents per head. G. R. Graybeal also had a like
permit covering 9,860 acres, on which to graze 450 head of cattle,
paying therefor at the rate of 40"cents per head.
The area assigned to each permittee is described in the license, and
each had the exclusive right to graze cattle on the territory covered
by his license, but this permission did not in any Way interfere with
the right of tourists, officers of the Government, or other people
traveling in and through the park to pass over and across the lands
covered by said permits. -
CRATER LAIKE N ATIONAL PARIX.
The CHAIRMAN. Crater Lake National Park, $8,000. How many
visitors have you had here? e
Mr. ACKER. Seven thousand and ninety-six and six thousand two
hundred and fifty-three for 1913; a very large increase in this park
also due to automobile service.
The CHAIRMAN. $3,200 of this amount is for salaries?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And the balance is spent on your trails and roads?
Mr. DANIELs. Repair and maintenance of trails and roads and
some little repair to headquarters building. - -
The CHAIRMAN. The revenues amount to $793?
Mr. ACKER. The revenues from automobile service in that park
last year was $1,930, a very great increase over the prior year.
WIND CAVE NATION AL PARK.
The CHAIRMAN. Wind Cave National Park, $2,500. You still
have that park?
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; we still have it.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the excuse for it !
Mr. ACKER. The excuse is the existence of the cave, somewhat
similar in character to the Mammoth Cave, in Kentucky, but not
quite as great. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What do you propose to do with this $2,500?
Mr. DANIELs. $1,000 is for salaries and $1,500 for maintenance
and repair of structures, trails, and roads.
PLATTE NATIONAL PA Itſ.
Mr. SHERLEY. The next item is the Platte National Park, Okla.,
for which you are asking an appropriation of $8,000.
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Mr. ACKER. That is an appropriation of $3,920 for salaries in the
park and the balance is for improvements.
Mr. SHERLEY. What kind of improvements?
Mr. ACKER. $2,000 for construction of two stone and cement
L-shaped comfort stations with marble stalls, etc., near Lincoln
Bridge and Bromide Springs, and for labor in cutting out and
clearing out 123 acres of weeds at approximately $2.52 per acre, and
keeping in order about 18 acres of ground at $2.50 per acre. *
Mr. SHERLEY. I notice your comfort stations are to be equipped
with marble stalls. What do you mean by that?
Mr. ACKER. That is because they are located in the vicinity of
these large bridges and lots of people go there. They are practically
the same as the marble partitions in the lavatory downstairs.
Mr. SHERLEY. And that is what is meant?
Mr. ACKER. Yes; just a partition stall. The engineer recom-
mended that these two lavatories be installed as a part of the sewer
system, but under the dicision of the comptroller it could not be done.
Mr. SHERLEY. What have you done in regard to the sewer system?
Mr. ACKER. The sewer is completed and the balance of the money
that was due the municipality has been returned to it.
CASA GRANDE RUIN INIPROVEMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. For the improvement of the Casa Grande Ruin,
Ariz., including installation of pump and maintenance thereof, $300.
What is this?
Mr. ACKER. The well at this place was constructed by the custodian
at his own expense, and now he comes to the department and says
that it is necessary to have the well repaired in order to accommo-
date the people who come there to visit those ruins.
The CHAIRMAN. How many people visit the ruins?
Mr. ACKER. I have not now an estimate of that. But he says that
the constant travel over the road past the ruin causes us to give away
quite a lot of water for feeding stock, filling canteens, etc., and he
figures that a small engine can, run this pump, and his estimate is
based upon an estimate submitted through him to the department
by the Casa Grande Supply Co., giving in detail the various items
of cost.
The CHAIRMAN. What would he do if he did not have the pump 2
Mr. ACKER. He has to look after the ruin himself. He has no
appropriation. Whatever repairs have been done out there have been
done by him. The estimate was originally $500 and the Secretary
cut it down to $300.
BLACKWATER, ARIZ., September 18, 1914.
The SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR, p
Washington, D. C.
SIR : I reply to yours of the 1st instant regarding more detailed estimates for
items Nos. 2 and 3 in the estimates submitted by me for the fiscal year ending
June 30, 1916, for the protection and improvement of the Casa Grande Ruin,
Ariz. -
Estimate NO. 2 Was—
“For repair and protective work of ruins_________________ ------------ $1, 000
“Employ about five men, at $2 to $4 per day. Materials used, cement, paint,
bricks, WOOd.”
I had intended $75 of this to be used in painting the protecting roof which
was put over the Casa Grande in 1903. It is badly in need of paint, and this
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Imuch at least Of this appropriation should be made. The remainder was to be
used to underpin Various walls, protect walls against ground sapping by cement-
ing them along the ground line. This part is not absolutely needed this year,
and in View of the fact that appropriations will be cut wherever possible, with
Conditions as they are now, we may as well leave this out here. So I will ask
yOu to Change this estimate to read:
“For painting the protecting roof and its supporting posts--------------- $75 "
As to estimate No. 3, it read:
“ FOI repairs and upkeep of well_______ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *m *m, amº 200 °
I dug this Well at my own expense in 1902. It was curbed with lumber at the
time of digging and this lumber has rotted badly, and as the well was dug for
the greater part through loose Sand and gravel there is constant danger that the
well Curb Will give way and allow the loose stuff to run in and fill the well. It
is in Such shape that I dare not put a man down in there to repair it for fear
of having him killed. My idea was to drive a casing pipe well down into the
Water Strata, fill the Well up, and then put a pump down in the casing. I have
heretofore used the open well with buckets, but, as I say, it is liable to cave at
any time and Can Inot be repaired because of that danger. -
Constant traffic Over the road past the ruin causes us to have to give away
quite a lot of Water for watering Stock, filling Canteens, etc., so I figured in a
Small engine to run the pump. In this connection, I am inclosing a letter from
the Casa Grande Supply Co., showing the complete equipment to cost $166.40
at Casa Grande. The wagon haul from there to the ruin will be about $10, and
the labor to put the plant in would be about $15, as I could do part of that myself.
The remainder of the $200 I figured for the upkeep of the well for the year,
including gasoline and repairs. This estimate should be by all means included,
as we may be without water here at any time if something is not done.
Yours, respectfully, f
- FRANK PINKLEY,
Custodiam, Casa Gºrdºn de Ruin.
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CASA GRANDE SUPPLY Co. (INC.),
Casa Grande, Ariz., September 18, 1914.
Mr. FRANK PINKLEY,
Blackwater, Ariz.
DEAR SIR : In conformance with our telephone communication yesterday,
we will be pleased to quote you on pumping Outfit as follows: -
46 feet of 4-inch O. D. Casing, at 40 cents a foot------------------------ $18.40
46 feet of 14-inch galvanized pipe, at 13 cents a foot------------------ 5.98
46 feet of 3-inch galvanized pump rod, at 7 cents a foot--------------- 3. 22
1 3-inch by 20-inch all brass cylinder - - -- ____ 8.60
1 geared pump jack––––––––––––––––––––––– ____ 19. 50
1 30-foot rubber belt for jack 3. 60
1 2-horsepower I. H. C. gas engine_-_ 80. 00
1 4-inch well point and strainer, 4 feet - – “. 26. 00
1 driving cap 1. 10
TOtal 166. 40
Same as above, using one 4-horsepower aermotor gas engine, Second hand, in
A1 condition, instead of 2-horsepower I. H. C. gas engine, add $30.
The above is figured to give a first-class outfit, and either engine will do the
work, required of it. If you use the 4-horsepower engine it would give you
a surplus power should you care to use it for other purposes.
If you should require any further information regarding this outfit we will
be pleased to furnish Same.
Thanking you for the inquiry, we remain,
Very truly, yours,
CASA GRANDE SUPPLY CO.,
(Signed) A. L. PIERCE, President.
Mr. ACKER. The following statements are submitted for the infor-
mation of the committee: .
702
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Total revenues, all sources.
Appropriations... . . . . . . . . . .
Acreage-----------------...
Visitors (attendance)... . . . .
Per capita revenues........
Per capita appropriations. .
23,895. 25 | 15,809. 35 | 4,775. 71 || 9,822.27 793.00 4,359.01 679. OO tº 647. 89 |. . . . . . . . 38,380.00 284.81 99,946. 72 . . . . . . .
125,000.00 | 8,500.00 || 100,000.00 23,400.00, 7,540.00 15,550.00. 10,000.00| 2,000.00| 2,500.00 |... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000.00 || 302,490.00 - - - - - - -
719,622 2, 142,720 981,681 | 207,360 | 159,360 | 161,597 |48,966.40 2,536 | 10,522 || $780 911.63 | 848.22 || 4,436,904. 25 |- . . . . . .
15, 145 20,250 14, 168 15,038 7,096 ,667 502 || 3,735 | 3,592 500 125,000 ,000 239, 693 - - - - - - -
$1,511 $0.785 $0.337 $0. 653 || $0.112 || $0.934 Sl. 352 $0. 134 $0.18 |. . . . . . . . $0.307 $0.0095 $7.5205 - . . . . . .
$0.825 $0.419 $7.058 || $1.556 || $1.062 || $3.331 $19.94 || $0.532 || $0.696 |- - - - - - - - |. . . . . . . . . . . . $0.2666 $35.6856 - - - - - - -
* This amount should be augmented by $5,431.20 ($2,825.60 having been received prior to July 1, 1913, and $2,605.60 under photo concession lease of F. J. Haynes for year begin-
ning Apr. 1, 1914, and due and payable before July 1, 1914, in advance, having been just received, Dec. 7, 1914).
704
SUNDRY CIVIL API2ROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement giving (lºmounts appropriated for the various national parks during
the current fiscal year (ending June 30, 1915) and total amount of estimates
submitted for each park for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1916, by the park
Superintendents, together with announts of estimates Submitted by the depart-
ment to Congress for 1916.
|Estimates for | Estimates for
Amount ap- 1916 as Sub- 1916 as sub-
Name of national park. propriate mitted by park mitted by the
1915. Superintend- department to
ents. Congress.
Yellowstone:
Administration and protection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5,500.00 $10,970.00 $5,500.00
Care and feeding of buffalo.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000.00 5,690.00 3 000. 00
Marking boundaries at Western entrance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
s 8,500.00 20,660.00 8,500.00
Yosemite. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000.00 540,658.00 100,000.00
Mount Rainier. ---------------------------------------- 51,000.00 66,902.50 51,000.00
Glacier------------------------------------------------- 75,000.00 278,645.00 | 75,000.00
Sequoia------------------------------------------------ 15,550.00 71,100.00 15,550.00
General Grant------------------------------------------ 2,000.00 7,750.00 2,000.00
Mesa Verde--------------------------------------------- 10,000.00 30,000.00 10,000.00
Platt--------------------------------------------------- 8,000.00 14,410.00 8,000.00
Crater Lake. ------------------------------------------- 8,040.00 41,400.00 8,000.00
Wind Cave... ------------------------------------------ 2,500.00 3,400.00 2,500.00
Sullys Hill --------------------------------------------- § 11,700.00 (1)
Hot Springs Reservation. ------------------------------ (1 2 355,135.00 (1)
Casa Grande.------------------------------------------- (1) 300.00 300.00
Total.--------------------------------------------- 280,590.00 1,442,060.50 280,850.00
1 No appropriation.
2 Sanitary sewer system, etc.
Statement of revenues received from park, privileges, concessions, and miscel-
laneous Sources during the COmplete fiscal years 1913 and 1914, as iridicated
on revenue Statements of mational park's printed in books of estimates of
ſuppropriations required therefor, for 1915 and 1916 fiscal years, also of reve-
nues from Same Soll rees from July 1, 1914, up to and including Dec. 28,
1914, as shown Om Statements prepared
Committee Om, Sundry civil bill hearing.
for use
before House Appropriation

July 1, 1914,
Fiscal year | Fiscal year || | to
1913. 1914. Dec. 28, 1914,
inclusive.
Yellowstone. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $21,168. 10 $15,809. 35 $12,252.83
Yosemite----------------------------------------------------- 20,950.95 23,778.38 24,314.65
Glacier------------------------------------------------------- 4,000. 14 4,775. 71 2,402.33
Mount Rainier. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .----------------------. 6,809.62 9,822.27 8,818.75
Sequoia------------------------------------------------------ 303. 85 4,359.01 742. 81
General Grant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 122. 69 500. 43 422. 15
Mesa Verde.-------------------------------------------------. ! 615. 21 1679. 00 1 48, 52
Platt--------------------------------------------------------- 46. 70 284.81 22.50
Wind Cave...------------------------------------------------ 428. 26 647. 89 1,629. 22
Crater Lake. . . . . . . .* ----------------------------------------- 1 784. 18 1 793. 00 1 1,349.50
Sullys Hill... . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------------------------------|--------------|--------------
Hot Springs Reservation (no revenue statement printed in
Book of Estimates)... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40,712. 10 38,391.50 17,340.00
Total receipts... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - 95,941.80 99,841.35 69,343.26
1 Expenditure of revenues of Mesa Verde and Crater Lake National Parks
ized by statutes.
TESTIMONY IN DISBARMENT PROCEEDINGS.
The CHAIRMAN. Testimony in disbarment procee
mate is $500.
, for park purposes, not author-
dings, the esti-
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 705
Mr. ACKER. There has been no expenditure so far this year, but
there are quite a number of cases pending and testimony may be
required to be taken in some of them.
The CHAIRMAN. You had no expenditures in 1914?
Mr. ACKER. No, sir.
ALASKA.
CARE OF IN SANE.
The CHAIRMAN. For care and custody of persons legally adjudged
insane in Alaska, including transportation and other expenses,
$70,000. How many patients have you?
Mr. ACKER. We had on July 1, 1914, 181, and on December 31,
1914, 177. That was a decrease of 4 over that same period for the
prior year, but between 1913 and 1914 we had an increase of 8, and
we can never tell how it is going to be. s
The CHAIRMAN. How do you care for these people?
Mr. ACKER. At the Morningside Asylum in Portland, under con-
tract.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you pay?
Mr. ACKER. $27.50 per capita per month.
The CHAIRMAN. That is $333 a year?
Mr. ACKER. Yes. I would like to put in as a part of the record
this contract. This is the contract which goes into effect this year.
(See committee files.) I also have a memorandum statement of the
details. #
Statement.
Care and custody of the insame of Alaska, 1915.
[July 1 to Dec. 31, 1914. First half of fiscal year 1915.]
Appropriated by Sundry civil act approved Aug. 1, 1914------------ $70, 000.00
Expended : # 4
For maintenance of patients---------------------- $29, 824. 20
For funerals of deceased patients (11 at $25 each) -- 275. 00
For transportation to destination of discharged
patients * * * smºs º ºr ºm. 158. OO
For expenses of such discharged patients___________ 30.00
For telegraphing--------------------------------- 1.96 -
—- 30, 289. 16
Balance in appropriation, Jan. 1, 1915–––––––––––––––––––––– 39, 710. 84
Patients in Morningside Hospital, July 1, 1914--------------------- 181
Patients in Morninside Hospital, Dec. 31, 1914-------------------- 181
Decrease ------------------------------------------------- 4
Population, July 1, 1918----------------------------------------- 173
Population, July 1, 1914 ---------------------- 181
Increase-------------------------------------------------- 8
The CHAIRMAN. Was this the only bid you got?
Mr. ACKER. No; we had two or three other bids, but none of them
was satisfactory. -
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706 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they have any other patients? -
Mr. ACKER. Yes; I think they have some from the Public Health
Service. Under this contract the right is reserved to the Govern-
ment to have accommodated there at the same prices any persons
that the Secretary of the Navy, the Secretary of War, or the Secre-
tary of the Treasury desire to have admitted there. I think that
the Public Health Service is the only one that has availed them-
Selves of that privilege so far. The Army has not done so because
they have temporary quarters at the Presidio, and the people com-
ing from the Philippines and other places who are detained there to
determine their mental status are soon transferred to the Govern-
ment Hospital for the Insane. *
PROTECTION OF ALASIKAIN GAIME.
The CHAIRMAN. “Protection of game in Alaska: ...For carrying
out the act approved May 11, 1908, entitled ‘An act for the protec-
tion of game in Alaska, and for other purposes,’” etc., the appro-
priation is $20,000, and your estimate is $20,000. What game do
you take care of there? •. -
Mr. ACKER. We do not take care of any game. The game is under
the Supervision of the governor, and he reports directly to the Secre-
tary of Agriculture. It is a rather queer arrangement. I would
like to have put in an excerpt from the report of the governor in
regard to the enforcement of the Alaskan game law. It is very
short. -
The CHAIRMAN. What does the governor say about it?
Mr. ACKER (reading): -
As pointed out in the last annual report of this office, the act approved May
11, 1908, to protect the Wild game of the Territory continues to be unsuited in
several respects to local conditions. Alaska is a vast country of wide and
diversified climatic and other conditions. A game law, therefore, that would
be suited to Conditions obtaining On the Pacific Coast Of Alaska would be
unsuitable for the great interior domain, but the existing law, generally
speaking, is uniform for the entire Territory. Attempts to secure amendments
by the Congress have thus far proved unsuccessful, and I am firmly con-
vinced that the protection of game in Alaska should be directly under the
control of the Territorial legislature. The Operation of the game law will be
discussed more fully in the report of its administration which this office is
required to submit annually to the Secretary of Agriculture.
Upon the recommendation of this office Congress has increased the appro-
priation for this work for the fiscal year 1915 to $20,000, thus enabling the ap-
pointment of more game wardens in some of the more remote sections where
game of various, kinds is abundant, and which from time to time has been un-
necessarily slaughtered. Generally speaking, the bona fide resident Of Alaska
does not violate the game law or regulations. He knows the necessity Which
exists for game preservation and carefully observes the law. The newcomer
and the itinerant sojourner, however, are not So Scrupulous, and there are,
besides, “game hogs” and market hunters who would violate the law with im-
punity but for the supervision which is constantly exercised wherever game
wardens are located.
The number of hunting licenses issued annually is increasing and Will no
doubt continue to increase, as Alaska is now practically the last great game
country of the continent. The moneys now received through the issuance of
hunting licenses, guide licenses, and shipping permits are covered by this office
into the United States Trea Sury. -
The CHAIRMAN. Under this provision we provide wardens to
protect the fur-bearing animals and other game?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 707
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; there is an arrangement, as I understand it,
made between the representative of the commerce department in
Alaska and the governor of Alaska whereby the game wardens ap-
pointed by the commerce department also act for and in behalf of the
governor in their sections. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Has the Legislature of Alaska legislated at all on
the question of game protection?
Mr. ACKER. I am not certain about that, Mr. Mondell. I would
have to look that up for you.
Mr. MoRDELL. You do not know whether they have any legislation
supplemental to Federal legislation or not?
Mr. ACKER. The act to create a legislative assembly in the Terri-
tory of Alaska and to confer legislative powers thereon, and for
other purposes, approved August 24, 1912, prohibits the Territorial
Legislature from enacting any law regarding the protection of game
or fish. I have made an examination of the session laws passed at
the first regular session of the Alaska Territorial Legislature,
which convened at Juneau March 3, 1913, and adjourned May 1, 1913,
and find that no legislation was enacted regarding the protection of
game in the Territory.
SUPPRESSION OF LIQUOR TRAFFIC IN ALASKA.
9
The CHAIRMAN. “Traffic in intoxicating liquors: For suppression
of the traffic in intoxicating liquors among the natives of Alaska,”
etc., the appropriation is $15,000 and your estimate is $15,000. That
is also under the governor? -
Mr. ACKER. Yes, sir; that is under the governor, but is expended
under the direction of the Secretary of the Interior, and conse-
queñtly all his appointments and everything else are approved by the
Secretary. I would like to insert here, Mr. Chairman, excerpt from
his report on the question of the condition of the native inhabitants
which deals with the enforcement of this law. This is from the gov-
ernor's annual report for 1913. It is not very long and goes into the
administration of this law.
The CHAIRMAN. How many arrests were made
Mr. ACKER (reading):
The work was carried on in the first, third, and fourth judicial divisions,
three white special employees and one native police officer being regularly
employed, and two temporary assistants being employed for short periods.
The reports of the special employees show a total of 63 cases instituted. This
number, of course, does not include cases instituted by other officers, such as
deputy United States marshals, of which there were a considerable number.
Of the cases instituted by the special employees 13 were against natives for
being drunk and disorderly, fines being in posed in announts ranging from $30
to $100. Fifty other persons were proceeded against, and of these 5 were
not apprehended, having evaded arrest by leaving the country ; S were released
upon preliminary hearings before United States commissioners or upon investi-
gation by a grand jury; 20 were either convicted or pleaded guilty, of whom 4
were fined; 13 were given jail sentences, and 3 were sentenced to the peni-
tentiary; while 17 were awaiting action by the grand jury or trial in the dis-
trict courts at the end of the fiscal year. In this connection it may be stated
that while good work has been accomplished in the suppression of the liquor
traffic, the activities of the Special employees are more far-reaching in their
effects than appear on the surface. Their presence and work in the different
judicial divisions where they are employed have a deterrent effect upon the
operations of the worthless white “bootlegger " and upon the Indian who
708 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Craves the liquor which the bootlegger furnishes. Therefore these special
Officers, it may be justly claimed, prevent much illicit selling of liquors and the
consequent debauchery which attends it. The special employees working under
the direction of this office have a large area to cover, much of it by water,
Where transportation facilities are usually inadequate. This is especially
true Of the interior—in the Yukon, Tanana, and other valleys. The need of
additional transportation facilities was recognized by a grand jury of the
fourth division, sitting at Ruby, on August 22, 1914. The jury after commend-
ing the work Of the Special employee of that division, Stated that he was
“handicapped in the matter of transportation, as on occasion cases have been
reported to him from a distance up or down the river, and he had to wait
many days for a steamboat ‘’; and the jury recommended “ that an independent
means of transportation be furnished him, such as a gasoline boat in the open
Season and a fast dog team, to consist of not less than Seven dogs, for the
closed season.” These recommendations I strongly indorse.
Upon the recommendation of this office the Congress has increased the appro-
priation for this work for the fiscal year 1915 to $15,000, whibc will materially
aid in the effective enforcement of the law. A special employee has been ap-
pointed for the Second judicial division, where hitherto none was stationed be-
cause of the insufficiency of the appropriation, but where the services of such
Officer were urgently needed. -
The CHAIRMAN. How is it you will have one less employee with
$15,000 than you had with $12,000? ſ -
Mr. ACKER. For 1915 they have four employees on this branch of
the service, three at $2,100, and one at $1,600. r
The CHAIRMAN. They had seven in 1914, and they contemplate
six in 1916. wº
Mr. ACKER. I suppose during the present year he secured a higher-
grade man for this class of Work.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not know about that?
Mr. ACKER. No; only what is reported here.
Mr. MoRDELL. You are evidently estimating for 1916 for the con-
tinuous employment of three employees and you have estimated just
the amount necessary to employ them constantly. In 1914 while you
had four special employees at $2,100 you seem to have only em-
ployed them about half the time. .
Mr. ACKER. I can not say as to that, Mr. Mondell.
Mr. MondLLL. In other words, you had four employees at $2,100
each, which would amount to $8,400, had you employed them con-
tinuously, but you expended only $4,328, which is but a little more
than half of what would have been required had they been employed
constantly. You are now anticipating evidently one less special
employee but continual employment.
Mr. ACKER. I expect the governor has some particular reason for
dividing it up that way. Last year he was present before the com-
mittee and wént into these details and that ought to be shown by the
hearings. He gave his reasons why it was desirable to increase this
appropriation to $20,000. I do not think I could add anything to
that. p -
Mr. MoRDELL. The continuous employment of three employees at
$2,100 a year and their expenses would, of course, aggregate more
than the employment of four men half the time. That seems to
account for the increase in the items. -
Mr. ACKER. He has stationed these four employees with head-
quarters respectively at Valdez, Fairbanks, Haines, and Nome, and
he has arranged so that the employees for the protection of game
shall likewise aid and assist in the suppression of the liquor traffic
and that the liquor-traffic men shall do the same thing in connection
with the enforcement of the game laws.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 709
THURSDAY, JANUARY 21, 1915.
EDUCATION IN ALASIKA.
[See p. 713.]
STATEMENTS OF ME. PHILANDER P. CLAXTON, COMMIS-
SIONER BUREAU OF EDUCATION, AND MR. WILLIAM HAM-
ILTON, ACTING CHIEF OF ALASKA DIVISION. -
The CHAIRMAN. Education in Alaska. The estimate is $200,000
and the appropriation is $200,000. What work has been done
under this appropriation, Mr. Commissioner?
Mr. CLAxton. Of the $200,000 appropriation this year we used
about $170,000 for the support of the public schools, salaries of
teachers, the building of a new schoolhouse and the equipment, and
for necessary supplies. Dr. Hamilton has the details which he will
submit to you.
Mr. HAMILTON. We are supporting this year 66 schools, Mr. Chair-
man, with 97 teachers, and using out of the $200,000, $28,000 for
medical relief and $1,750 for destitution.
The CHAIRMAN. How many pupils are in your schools?
Mr. HAMILTON. During the }. fiscal year, 1913–14, for which we
have complete reports, 3,666 pupils were enrolled, and the average
daily attendance was 1,991.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is the school year } -
Mr. HAMILTON. It waries from 7 months to 9 months. Many of
our teachers are employed for 12 months. During the summer
months they endeavor to maintain sanitary conditions in the vil-
lages, care for the school property, and give instruction in gardening.
In the Arctic the teachers must be at hand during the summer
months in order to receive the annual shipments of supplies.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the ordinary pay of a teacher? --
Mr. HAMILTON. The highest salary is $140 a month and the lowest
$40 a month, which is paid to a few assistants, usually natives.
The CHAIRMAN. Are the teachers men or women'
Mr. HAMILTON. The number of each is about equal. For a school
in one of the remote villages the commissioner tries to get it man and
his wife, and employs both of them. In a few schools in the towns
we call employ women. -
The CHAIRMAN. Those are the larger settlements'
Mr. HAMILTON. Yes, sir; such as Juineau, Sitka, and Nome.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you building any new schools?
Mr. HAMILTON. One this year at Metlakatla, in southern Alaska.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the character of that school, and how many
pupils have you there? gº
Mr. CLAxTON. There are about 150 children in that school, which
is now held in a rented building; in the night school for adults there
are about 30 or 35. - -
The CHAIRMAN. I notice the average attendance is only 50 per cent
of your enrollment.
Mir. HAMILTON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any particular cause for that situation'
Mr. HAMILTON. No system of compulsory attendance has been put
into satisfactory effect yet. The Alaska Territorial Legislature at its
710 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
last session passed a compulsory attendance law providing for the
employment of truant officers. •
Mr. CLAXTON. That law went into effect at the beginning of the
year 1914. It did improve the attendance somewhat. In the
winter a good many of the people go away for trapping and hunting.
When the men go, their families go also, men, women, and children;
occasionally the schools have to be suspended for a week or two at a
time. The natives begin in many of the villages to go away for fishing
early in the spring, before the schools close, and the schools continue
until half or more are gone. In the schools of the United States, how-
ever, the average daily attendance is only about 70 per cent of the
total enrollment. -
The CHAIRMAN. Does your enrollment represent your school
i. ulation, or have you any information as to what the school popu-
ation is in the communities where schools exist?
Mr. HAMILTON. The native school population of Alaska has been
estimated at about 6,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. I refer to the settlements and towns where you
have schools.
Mr. HAMILTON. I think almost all the children are enrolled in the
settlements where we have schools. -
The CHAIRMAN. What I want to find out is whether your enroll-
ment is in effect the school population. -
Mr. HAMILTON. The enrollment in the villages is pretty nearly the
total school population.
Mr. CLAxTON. Last year we estimated 4,000 in the villages and
towns in which we have schools and we had over 3,600 enrolled.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for six new schools next year, where are
they to be located, Naknek, Port Moller, Perry, and Slitmiut
Mr. HAMILTON. Those are places at which we would like to erect
school buildings. We are asking for 10 additional schools, of which
6 are schools we would like to reopen and 4 are for places that
have not hitherto had school facilities.
Mr. GILLETT. Why were they closed'. -
Mr. CLAXTON. Because we have had to take more and more of our
fund each year for medical relief. Last year we used $36,000 and
this year we estimate for it $28,000. These amounts have been taken
from the $200,000, a large part of which formerly was used for schools.
As the medical relief fund has grown we have had to close the Schools
in the smaller places.
Mr. GILLETT. Who dispenses that fund 7
Mr. CLAXTON. We do.
Mr. GILLETT. I mean, who is your agent, the school-teachers?
Mr. CLAXTON. We employ physicians. -
Mr. HAMILTON. Our medical work is under the immediate Super-
vision of an officer of the Public Health Service who is on special de-
tail for that purpose.
Afr. GILLETT. And he is located up there?
Mr. HAMILTON. Yes, sir. We have had him for two years.
Mr. CLAxTON. We have had such a detail for three years.
Mr. HAMILTON. Yes; I mean we have had this same man for two
(38),TS.
yº CLAxTON. All the medical expenditures and estimates are
made under his advice. -
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The CHAIRMAN. It is proposed to build six new schoolhouses.
You say only four of them are to be at new places and some of these
are to be at places where schools already have existed .
Mr. CLAXTON. Yes, sir. At Juneau we have a portable school-
house. It is simply a temporary structure down on the flats. The
school at the neighboring village of Douglas is built out over the
water and when the tide is in it is wet and the arrangements are
very poor. I think we can bring together the Juneau and Douglas
schools. Douglas is the mining town just cross the channel from
Juneau. The village of Klawock has a school but not an adequate
building.
Mr. HAMILTON. At Klawock we have a building which we bought
eight or nine years ago, and now it is not a credit to the Government.
We think it would be an improvement to the service to erect an ade-
quate building at Klawock. -
Mr. CLAxTON. The other four places—Naknek, Port Moller, Perry,
and Slitmiut—are new places where we have no schools as yet; but
each º of those places has 30 or more children who ought to be in
school.
The CHAIRMAN. What work do you do under the authorization for
relief of destitution ? -
Mr. HAMILTON. We have five district superintendents. At the
beginning of each fiscal year the allotment for relief of destitution is
divided among the five superintendents. Each superintendent gives
the teachers in his district the amounts which he thinks are necessary
in their villages to buy food for starving natives; also, occasionally
to buy clothing for destitute natives.
Mr. CLAxTON. That is used for relief from minor calamities not
requiring special appropriations, such as a flood or an epidemic of
Smallpox or other disease.
The CHAIRMAN. The Department of Commerce has charge of the
Pribilof Island natives. You do not operate there?
Mr. HAMILTON. No, sir; we have never had charge of those islands.
The CHAIRMAN. And the Commerce Department does not operate
in the rest of Alaska in this way ?
Mr. HAMILTON. No, sir.
R.EINDEER FOR ALASICA.
The CHAIRMAN. Reindeer for Alaska: “For support of reindeer
stations in Alaska and instruction of Alaskan natives in the care and
management of reindeer” the appropriation is $5,000 and your esti-
mate is $6,000. How many reindeer have you now %
Mr. HAMILTON. Many of the reindeer herds are in the remotest
regions; the latest complete report is for 1913. The total number
of reindeer, June 30, 1913, was 47,266; of that number, 3,853 be-
longed to the United States Government. On June 30, 1913, there
were 62 herds. We have been informed of the establishment of
five herds during 1913–14, and there may be more.
Mr. CLAXTON. The increase for some years has been about 23
per cent a year 7
Mr. HAMILTON. So that if the increase during the past year has
been about the same as in previous years the total number of rein-
deer now in Alaska should be about 60,000.
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The CHAIRMAN. What success are the natives having with the
reindeer herds 2
Mr. HAMILTON. I shall have to go back again to 1913. The
natives earned from the sale of meat and hides and by freighting
the sum of $66,966.
Mr. GILLETT. In that year'.
Mr. HAMILTON. Yes, sir; these are accurate figures. The whole
system is an integral part of the school system. Each school-teacher
supervises the reindeer herd in the vicinity of his school, and at the
end of each year he must make accurate reports on official blanks
previously supplied to him. These facts are taken from the annual
reports of the teachers in the districts affected by the reindeer enter-
prise. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You are proposing to establish new herds?
Mr. HAMILTON. Yes; we are hoping to reach six districts not
hitherto reached by the enterprise. - -
The CHAIRMAN. These red places on this map show where there
are herds : -
Mr. HAMILTON. The small red triangles show the locations of the
herds already in existence, and the six large triangles indicate the
places where we wish to establish new herds.
The CHAIRMAN. What are the circles on this map *
Mr. HAMILTON. The schools.
The CHAIRMAN. Would that cover, then, the entire Territory 2
Mr. HAMILTON. Yes, sir; I think it would. As far as I know, that
would complete the main points of distribution. Cf course, the sys-
tem will go on spreading long after the Government withdraws its
aid.
Mr. GILLETT. Just what do you do in each place 2
Mr. HAMILTON. To establish a herd
Mr. GILLETT. Yes. &
Mr. HAMILTON. If we find we have the money to establish a herd
at Slitmiut, for instance, the commissioner would send information
to that effect to the superintendent of schools whose district includes
Slitmiut. The superintendent would go to the nearest place where
we have Government reindeer and employ a herder to drive across
country to Slitmiut about 100 of those reindeer. There would have
to be a school at Slitmiut. We have estimated for a school there.
The teacher would become superintendent of that new reindeer
station, in accordance with the rules and regulations covering the
system. The teacher would select at that place two or three boys
who showed promise of becoming good herdsmen. He would enter
these boys as apprentices in the reindeer service for a four years'
apprenticeship. According to the rules for the service, approved by
the Secretary of the Interior in 1907, each of those boys would receive
reindeer at the end of each year of his apprenticeship; the first year 6,
the second year 8, the third year 10, and the fourth year 10 reindeer.
Those reindeer, with their increase, would be his property and capital
in life. - *
Mr. GILLETT. What would become of the other reindeer, the ones
he did not get
Mr. HAMI.T.ON. They would remain the property of the Govern-
ment. -
Mr. GILLETT. Who takes care of those 7
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Mr. HAMILTON. The school teacher, and we sometimes employ a
special herder. A reindeer herd is very gregarious; two or three
herders can take care of a large herd; the reindeer touch backs while
grazing. The apprentices themselves usually take care of the entire
herd as part of their work.
Mr. CLAxTON. The policy of the Government is to distribute these
reindeer among the native people. e
Mr. GILLETT. Did we not pass a law ordering their sale .
Mr. HAMILTON. You did not say we should sell them, but distribute
them. Some of the missions wish the Government to take back the
reindeer. They have not been entirely successful. The apprentices
must be given a certain amount of food, also clothing, tents, and
equipment, because during their apprenticeship they are, to a great
extent, taken from their normal occupations of hunting and fishing.
Mr. GILLETT. So you can not give your reindeer away 7
Mr. HAMILTON. No, sir. Not to the missions. There is also some
expense in transferring a herd from one place to another. If we want
to start a new herd the people who take the herd across country have
to have tents, camp equipment, and food. Of course, the expense is
Small. e
Mr. CLAXTON. It is our purpose by this method to distribute the
Government reindeer among these apprentices. Part of the pay of
apprentices and herders is made in reindeer. *. * s
Mr. HAMILTON. The Government reindeer are only 5 per cent of the
total now. - .
Mr. CLAxTON. By the time the distribution is completed the Gov-
ernment will have only a few reindeer left. These will probably be
in several herds and will be useful to our employees in their tº.
MEDICAL RELIEF IN ALASKA.
[See p. 709.]
The CHAIRMAN. For medical relief in Alaska you request an appro-
priation of $75,000. - *
Mr. CLAxTON. Our purpose is to begin a policy by which we may
hope to eradicate the diseases such as tuberculosis and trachoma, which
require segregation. Most of these people live in small settlements
far away from any, physician or any kind of medical attention.
Dr. Krulish, of the Public Health Service, who has given two years to
this study, says we can not do the work we should do without a series
of small hospitals. It is our purpose, as indicated in the estimates,
to begin the erection of such hospitals. We can use none of the
education fund for the erection of hospitals. The first of the hos-
pitals should be at Juneau, which is the most accessible point for all
southeast Alaska. A hospital with 15 beds, it is estimated, will cost
*$6,000 and its equipment $2,000. The maintenance charge will be
$2,500 a year. We will also need a physician, two nurses, and attend-
ants. The physicians and attendants and nurses could also serve
the surrounding villages. They would spend their time visiting when
they were not absolutely needed at the hospital. The two field
nurses would travel from Juneau under the direction of the physician,
visiting the smaller towns up and down the inland waterway. In the
southwestern district we have a hospital, an old school building
converted to this use. It needs some improvement and some alter-
71.4 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
ations. It is estimated these will cost, together with the necessary
additional equipment, $700. f
The total cost of equipment, maintenance, and field service, in-
cluding field nurses, is estimated at $11,800. The northwestern dis-
trict has a native population of 8,000. Here we have a contract
hospital which will be kept open. At Kotzebue a schoolhouse has
been remodeled for use as a hospital. For the proper maintenance
of these and for the hospital at Nome we estimate $11,800. In the
western district we have a hospital at Nulato. For the physician,
nurses, and attendants there, for the field nurses, drug supplies, etc.,
we estimate $9,300. You will observe that at each Qf these places
there are two field nurses. From these central places they will visit
the smaller settlements. For the time this visitation will partly
relieve necessity for physicians at those villages. In the southwestern
district we have had a careful investigation made as to the amount of
tuberculosis. About 15 per cent of the people of this section have
tuberculosis in some advanced stage. This means that there are
here :00 or more people with tuberculosis in such stages that they
need to be segregated. We have recently asked for a reservation on
the Chilkat River. This is in a valley that is dry and not very cold—
the climate is abouf that of Colorado, except that it is at sea level.
It is inclosed by mountains. dº -
On this reservation we plan to build a sanitarium, or tuberculosis
camp, in which natives of this section can be segregated. The sani--
tarium, with 40 beds, we estimate will cost $8,000; equipment, $2,000;
maintenance, $3,000. We also estimate for a building for employees,
erection and furnishing, $2,000, other expenses bringing the total
up to $21,800. If we are to save the lives of these people it is neces-
sary for us to do more for them in a medical way than we have until
now been able to do; more than we can do with the money that we
can take from the education fund. t - -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the native population ?
Mr. CLAxTON. About 25,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is Haines :
Mr. CLAxTON. Haines is near the head of the inland waterway on
the LVnn Canal. -
The CHAIRMAN. What are the climatic conditions there?
Mr. CLAXTON. Haines itself is a rather windy place, with a good
deal of rain; but about 15 miles up the river the mountains close in,
making a valley about 2 miles wide and 15 or 20 miles long, in which
the average rainfall is 18 inches, and the lowest temperature regis-
tered in the last 12 years 28° below zero. There is an Army post at
Haines.
The CHAIRMAN. How is the work done that you do now with the
present appropriation in the way of extending medical relief ?
Mr. CLAxTON. It is done through physicians, nurses, and the
teachers in the Schools. Each teacher has a little chest of medicines.
Dr. Hamilton can give you the figures as to the number of physicians
and nurses. -
Mr. HAMILTON. With the $28,000 for the current year we are
employing seven physicians and eight nurses; each teacher is sup-
plied with a medicine chest and medical supplies for first-aid wº
also with a simple medical textbook to enable them to treat simple
ailments in the vicinity of the school.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 715
Mr. CLAXTON. We publish a handbook prepared by Dr. Krulish.
Mr. HAMILTON. We also maintain improvised hospitals in re-
modeled School buildings at Nulato, Kotzebue, and Kanakanak.
We have contracts with four hospitals in Alaska and one in Seattle
to treat destitute native patients at so much per day. That is an
outline of the work, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. CLAXTON. You will observe that in these estimates we take
no account of medical attendance in the Yukon district. We have five
districts, and the estimates submitted are for four only. Of course,
it will be necessary to expend money in the Yukon district, but if
the appropriation requested is made these hospitals probably will
not be ready at the beginning of the year. For this reason the full
amount estimated for maintenance will not be needed this year.
We can therefore take from that a sufficient amount for medical
attendance for the entire year in the Yukon district.
MEDICAL RELIEF OF ALASKAN NATIVES, 1915–16, $75,000.
- [This estimate provides for the erection of one hospital and a tubercular sanitarium, also the continuance
- of the improvised hospitals at Nulato, Kotzebue, and Kanakanak.]
Southeastern district, native population 5,000, approximately:
Hospital, Juneau (15 beds), erection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $6,000
Hospital, Juneau, equipment......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
Hospital, Juneau, maintenance...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2, 500
Hospital, physician. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,800
Hospital nurses, 2 at $1,000. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
Hospital attendants, 2 at $500. ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000 :
Field nurses, 2 at $1,000............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
Drugs and supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 500
Traveling expenses, physicians, nurses, and patients. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500
Total-------------------------------------------------------------- 20, 300
Southwestern district, native population 4,000, approximately: * *
Hospital, Kanakanak (10 beds), alteration of school building and addi-
tional equipment....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 700
Hospital maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
Hospital physician.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,800
Hospital nurse.--------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Hospital attendant-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500
Contract physician, Knik. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600
Contract physician, Cordoba. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600
Contract physician, Valdez........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600
Field nurse for district...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Drugs and supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 500
Traveling expenses, physicians, nurses, and patients. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 500
Total.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11, 800
Northwestern district, native population 8,000, approximately:
Contract hospital, Nome... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Physician at Nome-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 200
Nurse, Nome district.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Eſospital, Kotzebue (6 beds), maintenance..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 500
Hospital, Kotzebue, physician.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,800
Hospital, Kotzebue, nurse........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Hospital, Kotzebue, attendant........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500
Physician, Barrow. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,800
Drugs and supplies.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Traveling expenses, physicians, nurses, and patients. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
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Western district, native population, 5,000, approximately:
Hospital, Nulato (6 beds), maintenance----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1, 000
Hospital, Nulato, physician. ---. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------- 1, 800
Hospital, Nulato, nurse. ---. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------- 1,000
Hospital, Nulato, attendant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500
Field nurses for district, 2, at $1,000. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
Drugs and supplies---------------------------------------------------- 1, 500
Traveling expenses, physicians, nurses, and patients. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 500
Total.------------------------------------------------------------- 9, 300
Tubercular sanitarium at Haines, Alaska:
Sanitarium (40 beds), erection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
Sanitarium, equipment------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
Sanitarium, maintenance-----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
Employees’ building, erection and furnishing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = • - - - - - - - - - 2,000
Laundry, erection and equipment----------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1, 500
Physician. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------- 1,800
Nurses, 2, at $1,000---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 2,000
Attendants, 3, at $500. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 500
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------- 21,800
- RECAPITULATION.
Southeastern district. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20, 300
Southwestern district. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11,800
Northwestern district. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 11,800
Western district---------------------------------------------------------- 9,300
Sanitarium--------------------------------------------------------------- 21,800
Total----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75,000
THURSDAY, JANUARY 21, 1915.
GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL FOR THE INSANE.
STATEMENTS OF DR. WILLIAM A. WHITE, SUPERINTENDENT;
MR. MONIE SANGER, STEWARD AND DISBURSING AGENT;
AND MR, LEWIS E. SMOOT, MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF
VISITORS. : - -
SUPPORT, CLOTHING, AND TREATMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. For support, clothing, and treatment in the Gov-,
ernment Hospital for the Insane the current appropriation is $284,943
and your estimate is $285,250. -
Dr. WHITE. There is nothing especially to be said about that,
except that we estimate upon the basis of the per capita cost and on
the presumed increase in j. number of patients that we will get.
The CHAIRMAN. How many inmates did you take care of during
the last fiscal year' -
Dr. WHITE. My recollection is that we asked an appropriation for
3,020 inmates and took care of 3,025. r
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 Ž
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, for the current year'
Dr. WHITE. Of course, the current fiscal year is not over yet, but
our average daily population for the first six months is about the
same. It is 3,026, I think.
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The CHAIRMAN. What is your estimate for the next fiscal year .
Dr. WHITE. We estimate 3,170.
Mr. GILLETT. That 3,025 represents the number you kept for 365
days?
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; that is the average daily population, and
that is the basis upon which this estimate is made—the average daily
population. -
The CHAIRMAN. These are the persons who have been committed
from the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Revenue-Cutter Service,
inmates of the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, per-
sons charged with or convicted of crimes against the United States
who are insane, or persous who have become insane since their entry
into the military and naval Service of the United States who have
been admitted to the hospital and who are indigent. Now, there are
some other classes, are there not ?
Dr. WHITE. Patients from the District of Columbia, and the appro-
priation for that is included in the District bill.
The CHAIRMAN. How many District patients are there 7
Dr. WHITE. About half of the population is made up of District
patients. There are between 1,400 and 1,500 of them.
The CHAIRMAN. The number of patients or inmates you mentioned
includes the District patients' -
Dr. WHITE. That includes the District patients, but this appropria-
tion is for the number that we estimate will come within those classes
enumerated in this bill. That number is 1,445.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought you were estimating for 3,170 ?
Dr. WHITE. While it is on the basis of that population, this bill
includes only those belonging to these classes here enumerated.
The appropriation for the others comes out of the District bill.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the per capita cost, Doctor'.
Dr. WHITE. The estimate is based on $220 per capita cost, with
the exception, as you will perhaps recall, that in estimating for the
District patients, the per capita cost is fixed at approximately $240,
because year before last, I think it was, you included in the bill a
provision that the District should pay its prorata portion of the cost
of repairs to buildings, roads, walks, etc., which brings the per capita
cost of the District patients up to $240, or $220 plus their pro rata
share of the cost of repairs to buildings, roadways, etc.
MOTOR, VEHICLES.
The CHAIRMAN. You have two automobiles'
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What are they use for "
Dr. WHITE. One of them is at present worn out, so it is not used
at all, and the other one is used by myself practically for all of the
purposes for which I have to go about. -
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of cars do you have 7 -
Dr. WHITE. It is an electrical car. The language in italics in-
cludes only the maintenance of the equipment that has been there
for many, many years, and does not include anything new at all.
Mr. SHERLEY. It includes the purchase of such equipment.
Dr. WHITE. That is for maintenance. If a horse dies, of course
a new one has to be purchased in its stead. ... •
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Mr. SHERLEY. This includes the purchase of automobiles.
Dr. WHITE. It is simply to replace those now in existence. That.
is all that is intended by that language. As a matter of fact there
has not been a carriage purchased since I have been there, and
these carriages are just as they were, I suppose, 15 years ago. That
is just for the maintenance of the present equipment.
CIVIL SERVICE FOR EMPLOYEES.
Mr. SHERLEY. Doctor, are all of your employees under civil
service 7
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir. There are two exceptions only; that is,
my private secretary and the record clerk who has charge of the
personal records of the patients.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is that true of the physicians and nurses 7
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. When you say that they are under civil service, do
you mean that they are appointed in accordance with the usual civil-
service requirements touching other persons in the classified civil
service . i
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; they are subject to the civil-service rules.
absolutely. -
Mr. SHERLEY. For instance, I notice in your note the following
statement: g
The medical internes are in lieu of the junior assistant physicians. Our physicians
are first employed as medical internes and during their probationary period must take
a course of study to make themselves proficient before being promoted to junior
assistant physician. Their future promotions are based upon their efficiency, as
approved by the Board of Visitors, before reaching the higher grade.
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir. The medical internes are appointed as the
result of competitive civil-service examinations, and their future
promotions are dependent upon the action of the internal administra-
tion. #
Mr. SHERLEY. They are in the civil service to the extent of coming
into the service of the hospital, but after that, in the matter of their
promotions, they are subject to the control of yourself .
T)r. WHITE. Practically so, except as the civil-service rules may
govern. For example, they have a rule that makes it impossible for
the Superintendent to promote a physician during his probationary
six months' service, and they have other rules of that sort.
Mr. SHERLEY. To the nurses stand civil-service examinations?
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir. They come in as attendants, and that is on a
noncompetitive examination – I will not say that either, but there
is a certain form prescribed upon which their applications are made.
You are doubtless familiar with the general requirements of these
applications. They must contain information going to show their
general qualifications, credentials, character, etc. Our civil-service
clerk simply classifies them according to these applications. -
Mr. SHERLEY. But they do not stand an examination? - -
Dr. WHITE. They do not stand any competitive examination fur-
ther than to qualify themselves on a percentage basis, according to
what appears on the face of the applications.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is this civil-service clerk you refer to detailed from
the Civil Service Commission? * . .
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Dr. WHITE. He is appointed by the superintendent, and then in ad-
dition receives a jº from the Civil Service Commission.
Mr. SHERLEY. Where did he come from at first " If you appoint a
man to pass upon the ratings of these applicants, and then determine
whether they shall come into the service, it practically means that
you determine whether they shall come into the service'.
Dr. WHITE. It does where it is not subject to a competitive examina-
tion held by the Civil Service Commission.
Mr. SHERLEY. That is what I want to find out—how much actual
civil service there is over there, and how much there is not. I want
to know what employees do not take a competitive examination and
are subject to appointment through the clerk that you appoint %
Dr. WHITE. All of the attendants and the laboring people generally.
Mr. SHERLEY. That class constitutes the great majority of your
employees?
r. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. So that, as a matter of fact, the greater number of
them are not under civil service'.
Dr. WHITE. That depends upon your interpretation of it.
Mr. SHERLEY. If they are appointed by the clerk whom you appoint
and they do not stand a competitive examination, and if you appoint
them upon his recommendation -—
Dr. WHITE (interposing). And that is true of noncompetitive posi-
tions in all of the departments, as I understand it.
Mr. SHERLEY. Of course it is true of noncompetitive appointments,
but I do not think that any department has quite the scope and lati-
tude that you have respecting the appointment of that many people.
Can you indicate what people there are in the institution that did not
stand a competitive examination ?
Dr. WHITE. I think in the main they are the laborers, attendants,
domestics, cooks, and other people who come in on very small salaries.
They are people of that type.
º SHERLEY. I would like to have put in the record a detailed
statement showing just the number of persons in the employ of the
institution who have been appointed without standing a competitive
examination. - - s
Dr. WHITE. I will do so.
(The statement referred to is as follows:)
Number of people on pay roll not under competitive service of civil Service, but
under local civil service: One photographer, $600 per annum; 2 telephone operators,
$360 per annum; 1 telephone operator, $330 per annum; 1 cemetery Sexton, $360 per
annum; 1 special policeman, $720 per annum; 1 gateman, $420 per annum; 1 jani-
tor, $360 per annum; 1 organist, $8 per month; 1 musician, $420 per annum; 1 musi-
cian, $300 per annum; musicians as needed, $4 per day; 1 housekeeper, $360 per
annum; 1 housekeeper, $300 per annum; 50 waiters and waitresses, from $168 to $216
per annum; I head chambermaid, $270 per annum; 5 chambermaids, from
$168 to $192 per annum; 1 domestic, $120 per annum; 4 male Supervisors, $810 per
annum; 1 female Supervisor, $750 per annum; 6 assistant male supervisors, $660
per annum; 3 assistant female Supervisors, from $540 to $600 per annum; 31 male
charge nurses, from $420 to $570 per annum; 38 female charge nurses, from $360
to $540 per annum; 2 male nurses, $390 per annum; 5 female nurses, from $360
to $390 per annum; 41 male charge attendants, from $360 to $420 per annum;
1 female charge attendant, $360 per annum; 168 male attendants, from $240 to
$360 per annum; 68 female attendants, from $180 to $300 per annum; 1 special
night attendant, male, $480 per annum; 18 special attendants, from $360 to $540
per annum; 1 bath master, $540 per annum; 3 night watchmen, from $420 to $540
per annum; 5 barbers, $420 per annum; 7 assistant bakers, from $420 to $570 per
720
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annum; I head cook, $600 per annum; 2 special cooks, from $360 to $390 per annum;
8 cooks, from $300 to $510 per annum; 17 assistant cooks, from $144 to $240 per annum;
1 butcher, $540 per annum; 4 kitchen firemen, from $240 to $420 per annum; 11 male
kitchen assistants, $300 per annum; 9 male kitchen helpers, from $168 to $216 per
annum; 18 male kitchen helpers, from $144 to $192 per annum; 2 forewomen, $360
per annum; 1 upholsterer, $600 per annum; 1 mattress maker, $600 per annum; I
harness maker, $420 per annum; 13 seamstresses, from $216 to $240 per annum; 1
assistant foreman of laundry, $420 per annum; 1 assistant forewoman of laundry, $300
per annum; 1 foreman of mangle room, $420 per annum; 6 laundresses, from $300 to
$360 per annum; 40 laundresses, from $144 to $240 per annum.
Two farm foremen, $480 per annum; I herdsman, $360 per annum; 1 poultryman’s
helper, $300 per annum; 6 farm hands, from $300 to $390 per annum; 24 teamsters,
from $300 to $360 per annum; 1 dairyman, $360 per annum; 11 milkmen, from $240 to
$360 per annum; 5 drivers, from $300 to $540 per annum; 1 coachman, $300 per
annum; 5 hostlers, $300 to $330 per annum; 1 stable night watchman, $300 per annum;
1 stable laborer, $300 per annum; I superintendent of grounds, $600 per annum;
2 assistant florists, $480 to $600 per annum; 4 greenhouse laborers, from $120 to $580;
1 plasterer's helper, $450 per annum; 7 painters, from $600 to $660 per annum; 10
assistant engineers, from $600 to $720 per annum; 3 oilers, $600 per annum; 3 head
firemen, $540 per annum; 18 firemen, from $420 to $480 per annum; 1 head steam
fitter, $840 per annum; 4 assistant steam fitters, from $600 to $660 per annum; 1
steam fitter's helper, $480 per annum; 1 machinist, $3.50 per day; 2 assistant machin-
ists, from $600 to $720 per annum; 1 locomotive fireman, $300 per annum; 1 head
plumber, $840 per annum; 3 Assistant plumbers, from $540 to $660 per annum; 2
plumbers’ helpers, from $420 to $480 per annum; 2 wiremen, $840 per annum; 2 wire-
men, $4 per day; 2 wiremen’s helpers, $2.50 per day; 10 carpenters, $3.50 per day;
1 carpenter's helper, $1.60 per day; 1 carpenter's helper, $1.50 per day; 1 tinner,
$3.50 per day; 1 cement worker, $3.25 per day; 1 coach painter, $3.20 per day; 32
laborers, $1.50 to $1.75 per day; 5 ministers, at $100 per annum.
Mr.
SHERLEY. Now, of course, your clerks and bookkeepers and
people in that grade of employment are certified by the Civil Service
Commission 7 -
Dr.
Mr.
WHITE. Yes, sir.
SHERLEY. Is the civil-service clerk you have referred to the
civil-service clerk indicated here at $1,200%
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WHITE. I suppose so; I do not see it.
& HERLEY. It is on page 438 of the bill. sº
WHITE. Yes, sir; we have one clerk called a civil-service clerk.
SHERLEY. He is the man who marks up the application papers?
WHITE. Yes, sir. **
SHERLEY. Who is he, may I ask
WHITE. Mr. Williams is at present assigned to that work.
SIIERLEY. How long has he been in the service'
WHITE. He came in very recently.
SºHERLEY. How was he appointed
WHITE. He was appointed by me.
* HERLEY. He did not stand a civil-service examination ?
WHITE! No, sir.
SHERLEY. You just picked a man for that place?
WHITE. Yes, sir. --
SHERLEY. And then he determines who shall come into these
positions &
WHITE. He is under my jurisdiction.
SHERLEY. So that it practically means that you have the
appointment of all of these people 3
T.
WHITE. Yes, sir; and that is contemplated, I want to say, in the
original organic act creating the institution and creating the position
of superintendent. The organic act provides that the superintendent
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shall have the appointment and discharge of all the employees of the
institution and of the officers thereof. That is the law.
Mr. SHERLEY. Will you put into the record the exact wording of
that law .
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
(The provision referred to is as follows:)
Section 4839, Revised Statutes, as amended to date is as follows:
“SEC. 4839. The chief executive officer of the Government Hospital for the Insane
shall be a Superintendent, who shall be appointed by the Secretary of the Interior,
shall be entitled to a salary of five thousand dollars a year, and shall give bond for
the faithful performance of his duties in such sum and with such Securities as may
be required by the Secretary of the Interior. The superintendent shall be a well-
educated physician, possessing competent experience in the care and treatment of
the insane; he shall reside on the premises and devote his whole time to the welfare
of the institution; he shall, subject to the approval of the board of visitors, appoint a
responsible disbursing agent for the institution, who shall give a bond satisfactory
to the Secretary of the Interior, and the Said superintendent shall engage and dis-
charge all needful and useful employees in the care of the insane and all laborers
on the farm and determine their wages and duties; he shall also be an ex officio secre-
tary of the board of visitors. The said disbursing agent, under the direction of the
superintendent, shall have the custody of and pay out all moneys appropriated by
Congress for the Government Hospital for the Insane, or otherwise received for the
purposes of the hospital, and all moneys received by the Superintendent in behalf
of the hospital or its patients, and keep an accurate account or accounts thereof.
The said disbursing agent shall deposit in the Treasury of the United States, under
the direction of the superintendent, all funds now in the hands of the superintendent
or which may hereafter be intrusted to him by or for the use of patients, which shall
be kept in a separate account; and the Said disbursing agent is authorized to draw
therefrom, under the direction of the Said Superintendent, from time to time, under
such regulations as the Secretary of the Interior may prescribe, for the use of such
patients, but not to exceed for any one patient the amount intrusted to the Superin-
tendent on account of such patient. t
“During the time that any pensioner shall be an inmate of the Government Hospital
for the Insane all money due or becoming due upon his or her pension shall be paid by
the pension agent to the Superintendent or disbursing agent of the hospital, upon a
certificate by such superintendent that the pensioner is an inmate of the hospital and
is living, and such pension money shall be by Said Superintendent or disbursing agent
disbursed and used, under regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary of the Interior,
for the benefit of the pensioner, and in case of a male pensioner, his wife, minor chil-
dren, or dependent parents, or if a female pensioner, her minor children, if any, in the
order named, and to pay his or her board and maintenance in the hospital; the re-
mainder of such pension money, if any, to be placed to the credit of the pensioner
and to be paid to the pensioner or the guardian of the pensioner in the event of his or
her discharge from the hospital, or in the event of the death of Said pensioner while
an inmate of Said hospital, shall, if a female pensioner, be paid to her minor children,
and in the case of a male pensioner, be paid to his wife, if living; if no wife Survives
him, then to his minor children, and in case there is no wife nor minor children, then
the said unexpended balance to his or her credit Shall be applied to the general uses
of said hospital: Provided, That in the case of any pensioner transferred to the hospital
from the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers any pension money to his
credit at Said home at the time of his Said transfer shall be transferred with him to
said hospital and placed to his credit therein, to be expended as hereinbefore pro-
vided, and in case of his return from Said hospital to the home any balance to his
credit at Said hospital shall in like manner be transferred to Said home, to be expended
in accordance with the rules established in regard thereto, and this provision shall
also be applicable to all unexpended pension money heretofore paid to the officers of
Said hospital on account of pensioners who were but are not now inmates thereof.”
Mr. SHERLEY. Do these surgeons and assistant surgeons stand an
examination ? *. -
Dr. WHITE. They only stand an examination originally when they
enter the service. They are subject to promotion.
Mr. SHERLEY. They are examined for the position of interne &
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Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. What is the character of that examination ?
Dr. WHITE. The Civil Service Commission conducts a general
examination covering all the branches of medicine.
Mr. SHERLEY. They are usually young men, are they not ?
Dr. WHITE. They are usually young men recently out of college.
Mr. SHERLEY. And they are promoted by you ? f
Dr. WHITE. They are promoted on the basis of their records.
Mr. SHERLEY. You stated that there were some restrictions touch-
ing your power to promote; what are those restrictions?
Dr. WHITE. I am absolutely under the control of the civil service
rules and the regulations of the civil service law. I mentioned one
order that came in the other day, making it impossible for me to pro-
mote anyone while he is serving his six months probationary torm.
Mr. SHERLEY. But after they have served their probationary period
of six months, then it is left absolutely to your determination as to
who shall be promoted and who shall not be promoted ?
Dr. WHITE. I make recommendations to the board of visitors.
As a matter of fact, the method is this: These medical internes
coming into the hospital, as you can readily understand, have had
no training in this work. The medical colleges do not give adequate
courses on mental diseases, and we give them a course of instruction
in the hospital which extends over a period of two months. This
course consists of lectures, demonstrations, etc., for the young men
who come in. Then we hold examinations and make those examina-
tions the basis for promotion to the next grade.
Mr. SHERLEY. Is there any reason why these other employees
should not be appointed as the result of competitive examinations?
Dr. WHITE. There is a very good reason. In many instances, for
example, we want to employ men at $25 per month, and it would
be impracticable to get a man at that salary from the general register
of the Civil Service Commission covering the entire United States.
For example, it would be impossible to get a man from Texas to
come on here and serve a probationary term of six months at a
salary of $25 per month. w. employ so many people who are paid
small salaries that it would be impracticable to secure them from the
general register of the Civil Service Commission, and practically
all of our employees come from this immediate vicinity.
Mr. SHERLEY. For instance, chambermaids and people of that
kind—
Dr. WHITE (interposing). Yes, sir; that type of persons. Proba-
bly you could flot get them from a general register of the Civil Service
Commission covering the entire United States, unless some pro-
vision could be made limiting that register to the immediate neigh-
borhood of the hospital. t -
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you have any elevator men?
Dr. WHITE. No, sir. Now, that would practically bring it down
to the method we are now following. When times are at all good we
have more positions to fill than we have applications, and we can not
always fill the positions. We certainly could not fill them from a
long distance for these low wages. Our wages are very small, some
as low as $12 and $15 per month for people like girls working in the
laundry. I do not think they could be obtained in any other way
to advantage.
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Mr. GILLETT. You say that you are under civil-service rules. If
that is true, how could you appoint that $1,200 clerk without a
competitive examination ? .
Dr. WHITE. I can not. There is a man doing that work, but there
is ºbody drawing that salary. There is a man detailed to that
WOI’k. \, -
Mr. SANGER. He was recommended for that.
Mr. SHERLEY. How much do you pay him?
Mr. SANGER. We are asked to put in with our estimates a list of
our probable employees during the next year, and in the number of
employees recommended this year is this civil-service clerk at $1,200.
That does not say that this person has that position.
Mr. SHERLEY. But you have some one now who does that work?
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. And I understand that you appointed him
T}r. WHITE. Yes, sir; he does clerical work.
Mr. SHERLEY. He does some clerical work, and, in addition, he is
practically the civil service commission for the institution ?
Dr. WHITE. But all of it is subject to the Civil Service Commission.
We have to report every appointment, not only to the auditor who
goes over our accounts, but we have to report our appointments
every month to the Civil Service Commission, and they have to ap- .
prove every one of them.
Mr. SHERLEY. But they do not pass upon the personnel of the in-
stitution 7 -
Dr. WHITE. They pass upon every detail, of it. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Let us see about that. Do you mean to say that
when you appoint some laborer there the Civil Service Commission
passed upon, not the question of whether you ought to have the
laborer, but whether you ought to have John Jones as the laborer?
Dr. WHITE. They would.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do they :
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; they do sometimes. For example, it is not
an infrequent thing for the Civil Service Commission to communicate
with us and say, “You did not furnish with the appointment of John
Smith a sworn statement as to how many members, if any, of his
family, are already in the Government's employ.” They require
that statement before they will approve the appointment. -
Mr. SHERLEY. They do not have put up to them any alternative
other than simply the rejection of that particular man. They do
nothing in the way of selection at all ? -
Dr. WHITE. No, sir; nothing at all.
Mr. SHERLEY. And they only review the selections you make to
the extent of making some such requirement as that you have indi-
cated—for instance, requiring a certificate as to how many members
of the appointee's family are in the employ of the Government 2
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; they review it. -
h; SHERLEY. Of course, that is a review that does not mean any-
thing. -
Dr. WHITE. It may or may not mean something.
Mr. SHERLEY. It is perfectly patent to my mind that it does not.
Mr. GILLETT. I do not see how you could appoint this clerk at
$1,200 without a competitive examination. -
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Dr. WHITE. I can not,
Mr. GILLETT. But it appears that you have.
Dr. WHITE. I beg your pardon; I have not appointed him. There
is no such man being paid that salary. I have detailed a man to do
that work, but there is nobody occupying that position at that salary.
Mr. SHERLEY. How did he get in—through the civil service? -
Dr. WHITE. In the same way. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What do you mean by the same way ?
Dr. WHITE. He made application in the way in which these other
people did. -
Mr. SHERLEY. So that you got a man in one of these minor posi-
tions and then on your defail he became charged with the duties that
otherwise would have been performed by the civil-service clerk, and
he makes the appointments of all the people who come into the service
of the institution. •
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir. As a matter of fact, I think that man gets $35
per month at the present time. -
Mr. Mond ELL. That seems to be a small salary for a man charged
with such responsible duties.
Mr. GILLETT. If you get this clerk that you propose here, do you
expect to have this man continue in that place? r
Dr. WHITE. No, sir; he will have to take the examination. He will
have to be certified by the Civil Service Commission.
Mr. GILLETT. After a competitive examination ?
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. How did you get the power to create that place?
Dr. WHITE. That place was there long before I knew anything
about it. *
Mr. SHERLEY. Who held it before this man? How did he get into
the service 2 -
Dr. WHITE. I do not know.
Mr. SHERLEY. You stated that this man has been there only for a
short time.
Dr. WHITE. My recollection is that that place was not filled. Mr.
Honey held it before.
Mr. SANGER. The Civil Service Commission has not been able to
fill that place, and it is only filled temporarily. They have not been
able to fill it because of the low salary. They certified 10 or 12 people,
but all of them declined it. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What do you mean by a low salary?
Mr. SANGER. He was getting $60 per month.
Mr. GILLETT. Does he get his board besides the salary?
Mr. SANGER. Yes, sir; but not his maintenance. He gets his
midday dinner there.
Mr. GILLETT. He does not sleep there 2 -
Mr. SANGER. No, sir. They have all declined it, and this was a
temporary arrangement. -
Mr. SHERLEY. But the man before this one was not limited to $35
per month
Mr. SANGER. He was limited to $60 per month.
Mr. SHERLEY. What grade clerk was he 7
Mr. SANGER. He was a clerk-typewriter. We have asked the
Civil Service Commission for whatever class we could get a man to
do that work for, and they find men who are willing to accept that
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salary. They find men on some registers who say that they are
willing to accept such a salary, but as soon as they discover it is in a
hospital, they decline it. They do not like a position in a hospital
for the insane.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do I understand that the Civil Service Commission
understands the duties that this clerk is to perform and that they
have designated for that position a clerk at a salary of $60 per month
Mr. SANGER. I think so. They formerly paid less than that at
one time. - r
Mr. SHERLEY. And this man employs and discharges a good many
hundred man 7 *
Pr. WHITE. Yes, sir; but it is all under my control. He has no
alternative.
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand; he does not have control, and it
practically means that you cimploy and discharge them. .
Dr. WHITE. The law charges me with that duty.
Mr. SHERLEY. That I will judge when I read the law. I am now
trying to get at the wisdom of such a provision.
Dr. WHITE. That is the provision that everybody who knows
anything about an institution of this kind, or, if I may say it, every-
body who believes he knows anything about an institution of this
kind, believes to be a wise provision.
Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, you appreciate the viewpoint of the men
who have men under them, and that always has been that they
should have control of them, but that has not been the viewpoint of
the Government, and it is because of that difference of viewpoint that
we have built up a civil-service system.
Dr. WHITE. I am absolutely in favor of a thorough civil-service
régime, and I would not encroach upon the powers of the Civil Service
Commission one particle. I have had experience with both sides
of it - - -
Mr. SHERLEY (interposing). It does not appear that you have had
enough of it to give you a fair chance to test it. - --
i)r. WHITE. You can not employ $12 per month girls on competi-
tive examinations. - ---
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand, but you take the extreme cases. I
am objecting to the fact that hundreds of men in this institution
should be appointed solely at your instance and promoted solely at
your instance, and that is what I gather to be the situation now.
Mr. GILLETT. You do not have any efficiency lists?
Dr. WHITE. We keep a record of our employees with great care,
and we promote them on efficiency. There is not other question that
enters into the problem at all. j
Mr. GILLETT. Do you have an efficiency docket 7
Dr. WHITE. We do not conduct it perhaps on the plan you have
in mind, but we have the personal record of every employee. If a
position to which a nurse is eligible is to be filled, it is the duty of my
civil-service clerk to get out for me the list of every single nurse in
the institution who is eligible for that position, and in that record
there appears the percentage that each one obtained on the examina-
tions at the time of their graduation from the training school, and
he accompanies it with a notation as to the record of each nurse
right through. Then I make the appointment from that list with
726 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
the same degree of rigid care that I would exercise in making an
appointment from a list certified by the Civil Service Commission.
That is the only way to get efficient service.
Mr. SHERLEY. These nurses, of course, are in the civil-service class 2
Dr. WHITE. Not in the competitive civil-service class; no, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. They are not ? -
Dr WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. What sort of examination do the nurses have 7
Dr. WHITE. They come in as attendants in this noncompetitive
way that we have been discussing, and having come into the service,
we try to get them to take our training. We give a two years' course
of training.
Mr. SHERLEY. These nurses are supposed to be trained nurses, are
they not
Dr. WHITE. They are graduates of our training school.
Mr. SHERLEY. They are not trained nurses in the first instance 2
Dr. WHITE. No, sir; they come in as attendants. -
Mr. SHERLEY. And when they come in as attendants. they are not
trained nurses 3 g
Dr. WHITE. No, sir; they are girls who come in from the farms
and other places. *
Mr. SHERLEY. And you promote them to the trained-nurse class :
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. Did you ever consider the desirability of having.
nurses come in as nurses who have graduated and have been trained
in the regular schools for trained nurses, and having them to come in
as a result of competitive examinations Ž -
Dr. WHITE. It would be very unwise.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why? *
Dr. WHITE. If they were limited to training schools of the same
character we have, it would be all right, but you could not get enough
of them probably. - *. .
Mr. SHERLEY. You do not consider that trained nurses who have
graduated from reputable and long-established institutions are
qualified for service in this institution unless they have gone through
your school %
Dr. WHITE. No, sir; that is not the way I put it. The nurse who
has graduated from a regular training school is not by that token
qualified for the special work she is called upon to do in a hospital
for the insane. -
Mr. SHERLEY. But she is much more likely to qualify than some
girl coming in Without any training at all?
Dr. WHITE. No, sir; not necessarily.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why not * -
Dr. WHITE. We have had some very unfortunate experiences
with nurses who have graduated from general hospitals, for the
reason that, in the first place, the character of work required is very
different. There is relatively a very small amount of general medical
and surgical nursing, and the average nurse who comes from a
general hospital and who has been trained in operating-room work
and that sort of thing, on 'coming to an institution for the insane and
not appreciating the character of the problems that we have there,
usually is quite above her business, and it is quite difficult to control
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them. Very often such a nurse never gets into the régime of the
institution. --
Mr. SHERLEY. But these trained nurses are trained in something
more than Surgical cases. +
Dr. WHITE. But in general hospitals they are never trained in the
care of mental cases, and so many insane asylums throughout the
country have organized their own training schools, because they real-
ize that their problem is a specific problem which requires a special
type of training.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why not have competitive examinations for the
graduates of those schools?
Dr. WHITE. I have no objection.
Mr. SHERLEY. What you have in practice is a system by which you
create the standard and determine the efficiency of the employees.
In other words, you and those associated with you, to use the lan-
guage of the street, are the whole works, and you determine who
shall be in there, what positions they shall hold, and why.
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; except for the fact that we have to prac-
tically appoint everybody who applies. *
Mr. SHERLEY. Why? -
Dr. WHITE. I mean that ordinarily we do not have enough appli-
cants to fill the positions. That is especially true when times are
good. - *
Mr. SHERLEY. Perhaps, if we should adopt this other method you
might find means of getting more and better employees.
Dr. WHITE. We might. That, however, is a matter of law.
I have to do what I have to do because I have no other way of doing
it. It is not my fault. - 2 *
Mr. SHERLEY. Yes, it is; if it is continued there without protest
from you, it is entirely your fault. •,
Dr. WHITE. I do not think it is wrong so far as efficiency is con-
cerned, but it may be wrong in the particular that more people
throughout the country should have an opportunity for applying
for employment. &
Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, the ideal despot perhaps gives the ideal
government, but heretofore we have had some doubt as to the
ideality of the despot, and so have always restricted his powers.
4.
COST-A CCOUNTING SYSTEM.
The CHAIRMAN. I have a letter from the Secretary of the Interior
requesting that this provision be included: ->
Authority is hereby granted to expend not exceeding $1,000 from the current ap-
propriation for the support of the Government Hospital for the Insane for the fiscal
year ending June 30, 1915, in the employment of persons and the purchase of supplies
necessary to the installtion of an up-to-date cost accounting system at the Government
Hospital for the Insane. Section 5 of the provision of the urgent deficiency appro-
priation act of August 6, 1914, shall not apply to this authorization. -
Dr. WHITE. Mº I ask that Mr. L. E. Smoot, a member of the
board of visitors, be heard on that -
Mr. SMOOT. The reason for asking for that appropriation in order
that a cost-accounting system may be installed at the institution,
is so manifest that I hardly need say much about it. Of course,
there is a plant over there producing electricity, a plant producing
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bread, a dairy, laundry, and other like plants. Now, it is inconceiva-
ble to me how any many can run a business if he does not know what
it costs per kilowatt hour, for instance, to produce electricity, or if
he does not know how much it costs to bake a loaf of bread. If,
however, he has a cost-accounting system, and finds that it costing
him twice as much to bake a loaf of bread as it did formerly, he im-
mediately begins to investigate. If he finds that the increased cost
is bronght about by the increased price of flour, then he is helpless,
but if he finds that it is brought about by inefficiency on the part of
his subordinates, then he is in a position to know that there is in-
efficiency and to take measures to promote greater efficiency.
Of course this same principle holds good with regard to any of the
things that they produce over there. In short, this would give Dr.
White an opportunity to put his finger on the sore spot, if it is there.
If he had as many eyes as the beast spoken of in the Bible, he could
not see all of the employees he has over there, and he could not per-
sonally know whether they were efficient or inefficient; but if he should
find that some certain article that he produces there suddenly costs
a great deal more to produce than formerly, then he could know that
it was brought about through causes that were remediable or not, as
the case might be. At any rate, he would know it and could take
measures to correct it. On the other hand, or dealing with the human-
nature side of it, we know that men like to have their work appreci-
ated, and if anybody over there should get a particularly efficient
result in his work, Dr. White would be able to compliment him on
his efficiency, and that causes many people to make greater efforts.
That seems so manifest that I shall not say anything more on that
subject. . - -
But I would like to ‘say something more in regard to the necessity
of having expert accountants outside of the Government's employ to
do that work. I will give you an illustration that perhaps will show
my point clearly: The Southern Railroad has more employees than
there are in the standing Army of the United States, so naturally
they have a great many accountants, some of them, of course, being
experts. They have a factory where they build freight cars and
sometimes they sell freight cars to other railroads. Not long ago
they employed some expert accountants who installed cost-accounting
systems to investigate their own cost-accounting system, and they
discovered, to their surprise, that they were selling freight cars at less
than it cost to produce them. The reason was that their men were
not sufficiently expert or specialized in that work to properly appor-
tion the overhead cost that entered into the production of freight cars.
Therefore the Southern Railroad was in the ridiculous position of
selling freight cars at less than it actually cost to produce them.
The CHAIRMAN. That does not mean that there is nobody in the
Government service who is not competent to do this work.
Mr. SMOOT. I am not sure that there is any. I know, however,
that in the case of the New York State hospitals they employed these
specialists to install their cost-keeping system. It does not pay to
keep such specialists permanently employed. Their work is of a
permanent nature, and after it is once accomplished there is no need
to retain them. Such a specialist might work for the Government
for two weeks, and then . Government might not have work for
such a man again for 10 years. They are high-priced men, and, with-
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out intending any criticism, of course, I venture to state that the
Government does not pay very big salaries to men of that class.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you anybody in contemplation for this
employment 7 -
Mr. SMOOT. I have no one in contemplation; but if I were asked
to make a recommendation, I would recommend the people that put
the cost-accounting system into the New York State hospitals.
The CHAIRMAN. We have provided for a service that can do this
work wherever it is desired in the Government service. We have
under the Civil Service Commission an appropriation for this pur-
pose, and they have employed a man who has been very successful
in installing this system in some of the departments of the Govern-
ment. They are in a position to take up any particular Government
institution that requires such work.
Mr. SMOOT. I must admit that my main object is is to get a good
efficiency system installed. Being one of the Board of Visitors, I am
free to admit that I would like to have the benefit of a cost-accounting
system over there, and I know that Dr. White would.
The CHAIRMAN. The Civil Service Commission has an appropria-
tion of $30,000 for the current year for this purpose, and $30,000 is
recommended for the next fiscal year, which is based upon the results
that have been accomplished by persons in their employ. That
force could do this work for the institution.
Mr. SMOOT. If I may suggest, whatever the average large corpora-
tion procures in that line is apt to be very efficient, .# what the
average large corporation does in regard to that matter
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). This man I refer to is an expert in
governmental methods and systems. -
Mr. SMOOT. But I am trying to break away from that and get into
the corporation system. I am trying to break away from the govern-
mental methods. *
Mr. SHERLEY. But you can not always do that.
The CHAIRMAN. We have had some experience with the type of
men you have in mind, and we have made up our minds that they
will never make any more of the contracts that they were making
with the Government. They were charging the Government $25 per
day for the services of men that they were paying $12.50 per day.
We will not permit that again.
Mr. SHERLEY. You say that you want to get away from Govern-
ment methods, but there are some Government methods that can
not be gotten away from because of the very fact that it is a govern-
ment. Besides, there is an accountability in the Government that
is different from that of a private institution. A private institution
looking only to results, would put no restrictions on anybody that
might interfere with the results, but a government would not last
48 hours upon that theory. All of the checks that exist in the
Government service exist because the Government must know what
is being done and must place restrictions upon the activities of men.
The feature of a business system that might appeal most strongly to
a corporation is one that violates the very fundamentals of repre-
sentative government and can not be permitted.
Mr. SMOOT. My object is to promote efficiency. You have gone
into the business of making electricity over there, and you are also
running a dairy there. Now, those are financial propositions, and
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we want to get you to deal with these matters as business men would
do, because these are business problems. They are not Government
problems at all.
Mr. SHERLEY. We are willing to go with you to a certain point,
but when you come to any of these problems you will find that there
are certain things requisite because it is a Government institution
that you as a private individual might be willing to dispense with.
You might very properly dispense with them, but we could not.
Mr. SMOOT.. I do not think there is any question in your minds.
about the desirability of having a cost-accounting system there.
Mr. SHERLEY. There is no lack or desire on our part to know
what is the cost as to a good many things in connection with this.
hospital, and I think that some of our appropriations would indi-
cate that they do things on a style that would bankrupt anybody.
but the Government pretty speedily. -
Mr. SMOOT. If that point is conceded, I will confine my remarks
now to the question of the advisability of employing some expert
accountant that is in the employ of the Government already or some
one who is not in the employ of the Government.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not think the mere fact that a man is in the
employ of the Government disqualifies him for this work.
Mr. SMOOT. Not necessarily. - - t
The CHAIRMAN. We have had some experience in the last year or
two with an organization that has been employed by the Govern-
ment, and the results accomplished have been such that you would
have to give some very conclusive reasons if some outsiders at the
extravagant prices they charge should be employed for this work.
Mr. SMOOT. They get these extravagant charges you refer to from
people who are paying them out of their own pockets. - -
The CHAIRMAN. We are familiar with that, and I think their prac-
tices are absolutely indefensible from every standpoint. We got
them out of the employ of the Government, and they will not get in
again if I can keep them out.
Mr. ŠMOOT. My object in this matter
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). I understand what you want to do,
but I do not think you are familiar with the facilities that the Govern-
ment has for doing this work.
Mr. SMOOT. No, sir; that is it exactly. I have no earthly objec-
tion to any efficient man doing the work, but if you have a man de-
tailed by the Government to do this work, I have to accept his
results. I say “I have to accept them,” but I am speaking for Dr.
White. Dr. White will have to submit to the sº who are sent
there, whether they are efficient or inefficient. He has to abide by it.
If the Government has a man who has been accustomed to installing
cost-accounting systems and who has been accustomed to installing
them in plants for the production of material, there could be no
objection. But this has nothing to do with the Government. This
relates to the production of commercial commodities the production
of milk, bread, and electricity. If the Government has such a man
or such a corps of men in its employ, and if we should have the good
luck because it would be largely a matter of good luck of getting
such a man, I would have no opposition to make. -
The CHAIRMAN. We are expending practically $400,000,000 in
constructing the Panama Canal, and a cost-accounting system was
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installed there without the aid of any outside experts by which they
can tell the cost of the smallest detail of the work there. *
Mr. SMOOT. Mr. Shonts was a railroad man and brought railroad
accountants with him. He had specialists in cost accounting who
were accustomed to deal with business matters.
Mr. SHERLEY. And he also threw up the job because he could not
continue it. - - -
Mr. SMOOT. It was Mr. Shonts who installed that system,
Mr. SHERLEY. No, sir; he did not come anywhere near it. He
gave up the job, and it remained for Government employees and the
personnel of the Army Engineer Corps to carry it through. What'
we quarrel with is not your attempt to find out the unit cost of what
is produced over there, but your assumption, that unless you select
the man, whoever is detailed to the work, will not be efficient, or
rather that Dr. White feels that he must accept his work, whether it
is efficient or not. But I do not think there is any reason for the
assumption that he is going to be inefficient. The assumption is
that the Government's expert will be efficient. Certainly that theory
hardly coincides with the other theory that under your system of
employment you get efficient men, but that mo other department of
the Government will have efficient men, and, therefore, if they are
detailed to this work, they will not do it right. -
T}OARD OF VISITOR.S.
I want to ask about the board of visitors. Who constitutes that
board . -
Mr. SMOOT. Various and sundry people.
Dr. WHITE. There are nine members appointed by the President.
Mr. SHERLEY. For what term * -
Dr. WHITE. For six years.
Mr. SHERLEY. I suppose they rotate in office, and that they do not ,
all go out at once %
Dr. WHITE. They rotate every two years.
Mr. SHERLEY. Put in the record the names of the present board'
Dr. WHITE. I will do so. -
Mr. SHERLEY. How often do they meet 7
Dr. WHITE. They have two meetings annually, and then the hos-
pital is visited each month by a committee of three. Then there is a
permanent executive committee. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Do they receive any compensation'
Dr. WHITE. No, sir.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF VISITORS OF THE GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL FOR THE IN SAN E.
Gen. George M. Sternberg, president; Mrs. Henry G. Sharpe, Mr. Lewis E. Smoot,
Mrs. Archibald Eſopkins, Rear Admiral William C. Braisted, Brig. Gen. William C.
Gorgas, Dr. Walter S. Harban, Mr. John W. Yerkes, Dr. Rupert Blue.
BUILDINGS AND GROUNDs, REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
The CHAIRMAN. For general repairs and improvements for the
buildings and grounds your current appropriation is $55,000 and
your estimate is $55,000. -
Dr. WHITE. There is nothing to be said about that especially.
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The CHAIRMAN. What is the condition of the plant there 7
Dr. WHITE. The physical condition of the plant }
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. -
Dr. WHITE. I think I might say that the physical condition of the
plant is slowly improving each year. It is in pretty good condition,
but of course it is a $5,000,000 plant. -
The CHAIRMAN. Does that include the land and buildings?
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; at the cost price.
l The CHAIRMAN. What is the value of the buildings apart from the
and 3
Mr. SANGER. About $3,900,000. That is practically the value of
the buildings. There are nearly 60 buildings. * .
Dr. WHITE. That is a very moderate appropriation for the deterio-
ration of a plant of that size. *
Mr. SANGER. That is taking the original appropriations and bring-
ing down the improvements and repairs. *
ROADWAYS, GRADING, AND WALKS.
The CHAIRMAN. For roadways, grading, and walks your current
appropriation is $5,000 and the estimate is $5,000. t
Dr. WHITE. That is exactly the same. We have a number of miles
of roads and walks.
The CHAIRMAN. How many 7
- Dr. WHITE. I have never measured them, but there are several
miles of roads and walks. *
The CHAIRMAN. Do these appropriations cover the farm 7
Dr. WHITE. They do in the way of roadways and walks, of course;
the whole plant.
NEW FENCE. '
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is ‘‘For a new fence, to be avail-
able until used, $14,000.”
Dr. WHITE. We have discussed that item several times, Mr. Chair-
man. The fence that now surrounds the portion of the hospital
grounds on the east side of Nichols Avenue, which comprises 175 acres,
is in that condition ſexhibiting photograph]. It is worse than that
now, because a great deal has fallen down. We think there should
be something decent around there. That is on a public highway,
and there is nothing to prevent anybody getting out or anybody
getting in.
The CHAIRMAN. How long will it be .
Dr. WHITE. The portion that is on the highway, which those
ictures show, is 3,400 feet long. A complete fence—that is, to
inclose the whole piece of ground and take in another road that runs
north at right angles to Nichols Avenue—would include 5,700 feet,
a little more than a mile. -
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of a fence do you propose putting
there 2
Dr. WHITE. An iron fence upon cement pillars.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know the total length of the fence %
Dr. WHITE. Five thousand seven hundred feet. We will have to
keep within the amount of the appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Could you not use the fence which now surrounds
the Botanic Grounds 7
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Dr. WHITE. I do not see anything the matter with that fence. It
would certainly be an enormous improvement under the present
conditions, if there is enough of it. I know that fence; I go by it
every day. -
The CHAIRMAN. If that fence were set up along your property,
would it answer the purpose .
Dr. WHITE. It would answer the purpose admirably, if there is
enough of it. I doubt if there is enough of it. . g
The CHAIRMAN. There would probably be enough to run along
one portion of the grounds -
Dr. WHITE. If there is enough of it to take in just the portion on
Nichols Avenue it would be worth while, but in case we had to com-
plete it with the same style of fence I am very much of the opinion
that the fence would cost a great deal more than the appropriation
here asked.
The CHAIRMAN. If that fence is torn down and not utilized it will
be just scrap *
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Please ascertain about the fence %
Dr. WHITE. Yes, sir; I will send a man down there and have it
measured. It is probable that we would have to put in new foun-
dations. . *.
NoTE.—The length of the fence is 2,500 feet. This does not include about 200 feet
curved to radius which would not be suitable for a straight-line fence. Some of the
bars in this fence are almost eaten through with rust. It has not been painted for a
long time. It would be necessary to provide for new foundations and pillars.
RECIAIMED LANI) () N AN A COSTIA RIVER .
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “The tract of land abutting the
grounds of the Government Hospital for the Insane, on the Anacostia
River, recently reclaimed under the authority of Congress by the Sec-
retary of War, is hereby transferred to the supervision of the Secretary
of the Interior for use in connection with the administration of the
Government Hospital for the Insane” .
Dr. WHITE. This [indicating] is the Anacostia River running down
here [indicating] and running into the Potomac. All this colored
portion [indicating] before the reclamation of the land was started
was flats that were alternately flooded and left high and dry by the
tide and therefore a source of danger to the health of the community.
They have been two years dredging out this channel [indicating], so
that it is rendered navigable, and dunlped the dirt on these flats
with the result that all of this portion in this color [indicating] they
have finished reclaiming. This portion [indicating] is now in the
process of reclaiming. Here [indicating] you see the lines of the
hospital property coming down and abutting upon this reclaimed
land. This reclaimed land at the present time is under the control of
the War Department. They have finished reclaiming it. The
hospital can not use it. Nobody is using it now, except a single farmer
who has been granted a lease of a considerable portion of this land
for a nominal fee for a period of five years to raise trucking. This is
splendid land and he wanted to—
The CIIAIRMAN (interposing). How much is there of it !
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Dr. WHITE. About 93 acres. -
The CHAIRMAN. What would you use it for .
Dr. WHITE. We would use it for raising truck, just this portion
[indicating] that comes to the river front. Here [indicating] are our
grounds. -
Mr. Mond ELL. Is it reasonably accessible % -
Dr. WHITE. Absolutely. Our pumping station is right here [in-
dicating]. It is practically a portion of our grounds. That is, if
they had conceded that we had riparian rights, if we were private
owners, it would be our personal property in a way. As you know,
the hospital has been wanting more land for a good many years, and
apparently never will get it, but here is some land that has been built
right in our front yard that we could use and which is apparently
of no use to the Government, and there is not any reason why it should
not be turned over to our use, so far as I know.
wº CHAIRMAN. Has this matter been submitted to the Secretary of
ar? º
Dr. WHITE. I do not think so. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know whether he will turn it over to you ?
Dr. WHITE. He probably would not. The War Department does
not like to give up anything. -
Mr. SANGER. We took up with them the question of the use of the
land and they said that they had already leased it and did not care
to cancel the lease.
. . THURSDAY, JANUARY 21, 1915.
COLUMBIA INSTITUTION FOR THE DEAF.
STATEMENT OF DR. PERCIVAL HALL, PRESIDENT.
MAINTENANCE, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The first item in which you are interested is “For
support of the institution, including salaries and incidental expenses,
books and illustrative apparatus, and general repairs and improve-
ments,” and the appropriation is $70,000, and your estimate is
$71,500 % &
Dr. HALL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for this increase ? 2
Dr. HALL. That is practically all called for in my estimate for a
little advance in a number of salaries and provision for a storekeeper.
I think our institution needs and ought to have a storekeeper to keep
accurate track of all our supplies, check up all the purchases, and have
that his particular business. We do that the best we can by the use
of a janitor and a clerk who put in part time on this job. I believe
we should have a regular storekeeper. We purchase yearly $10,000
or $12,000 of foodstuffs and a great deal of material for our shop,
dairy, and all that sort of thing. I think it would be well for us to
keep as accurate an account as possible of that, and a storekeeper
would be of great assistance.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 735
STUDENTS FROM STATES AND DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
The CHAIRMAN. How many pupils have you ?
Dr. HALL. This year we have 155.
The CHAIRMAN. How many pupils did you have last year'.
Dr. HALL. One hundred and fifty-nine.
The CHAIRMAN. How many of those are pay pupils :
Dr. HALL. Twenty.
The CHAIRMAN. Do the pupils pay the full tuition ?
Dr. HALL. They do not pay º costs us. All those admitted as
pay pupils this year are paying the full rate, $350. We have some
who were admitted some years ago at a less rate than that, when the
rate was lower. The original rate was $150; it was then raised to
$250, and it is now $350. All those that have been admitted this
year pay $350. Nine are paying the full rate.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you some other source of income 2
Dr. HALL. We have very little other source of income. We have
about $11,000 in bonds, producing a small income, only a few hun-
dred dollars. Of course this item in the sundry civil bill does not
include the sum that we receive from the District of Columbia and
which is carried in the District of Columbia bill.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is that %
Dr. HALL. $12,250. *
The CHAIRMAN. That is for the pupils of the District of Columbia ;
Dr. HALL. Yés, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. At what per capita ?
Dr. HALL. I have brought the commissioners to signing a contract
for $375; I got them up $25 this year. It has been $350.
Mr. GILLETT. How large a proportion of the pupils are from the
District º
Dr. HALL. There are 33 students from the District. Most of those
are children; 29 in the primary department. The latter do not cost
us anywhere near as much as the older students. The salaries of the
teachers are very much less.
Mr. GILLETT. Do they all live there?
Dr. HALL. Yes, sir; it is a residential institution. We figured that
it cost us for these smaller children during last year about $400, and
I am trying to get the District up to pay the full amount. We shall
get $375 º year, and hope to get the rate up to $400 next year and
to pav it all. -
Fºrt Why should not the States that send pupils pay for
them? -
Dr. HALL. Congress has provided 100 free scholarships from the
States and Territories. The situation is this: Practically all the
States and Territories have provided for the elementary education of
deaf children at the expense of the State. Our lower department is
of the same type as these State schools. This course is about equal
perhaps to the second year of the high School. They do not get quite
as much as the high-school graduate does, except in manual training,
in which they get a very good course. After graduation they can
enter our advanced department. We have the only higher educa-
tional institution for the deaf in this country or any other. ...Our
institution gives them a course fairly comparable with a small college.
Mr. GILLETT. How are they divided among the States?
736 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Dr. HALL. The law says that if any distinction is to be made
no scholarship shall be granted to any State having more than three
free pupils with us while another State has not that many. We are
not full yet. We have 94 free students now. .
The CHAIRMAN. Can you tell us the number from each State 7
Dr. HALL. Yes, sir. Alabama, 1; Arkansas, 4; California, 1; Colo-
rado, 3; Connecticut, 1; Florida, 3; Idaho, 1; Illinois, 2; Indiana, 1 ;
Iowa, 1 ; Kansas, 10.
Mr. GILLETT. Kansas, 107
Dr. HALL. Yes, sir. Kentucky, 2; Louisiana, 1; Maryland, 2;
Massachusetts, 1; Minnesota, 4; Mississippi, 2; Missouri, 6; Montana,
1; Nebraska, 14; New York, 2; North Carolina, 1 ; North Dakota, 1;
Ohio, 2; Oklahoma, 1 ; Oregon, 2; Pennsylvania, 1; South Dakota, 1;
Tennessee, 3; Utah, 5; Virginia, 1; Washington (State), 7; and Wis-
Consin, 3. -
Mr. GILLETT. What is the matter with Kansas and Nebraska, and
how does that comply with the law Ż * -
Dr. HALL. The scholarships are not all taken up, so that Kansas
and Nebraska have not kept anybody out, and as long as all can be
supplied, that complies with the law. - -
BTUILT) IN GS AND GROUNDS.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs to buildings of the institution, includ.
ing plumbing and steam fitting, and for repairs to pavements and road-
ways within the grounds, the appropriation is $6,000 and your esti-
mate is $6,000. -
What is the value of your plant outside of the land
Dr. HALL. It would be hard to estimate the value; at least
$500,000 has been spent on the buildings. There is a large chapel
building which cost about $120,000, and a large building for our
college boys, which also houses some of our officers and one or two
teachers, which cost about $125,000; then there is a building for the
college girls and a shop building, power plant, recitation building,
gymnasium, several houses for the homes of instructors, altogether
about 24 buildings of some size. I estimate that $500,000 would not
rebuild them, but think that they cost at least $500,000 when they
were builf years ago when building was a good deal cheaper than it
IS DOW. - -
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to include roadways in this ap-
propriation ?
Dr. HALL., Yes; that is a matter we are trying to get up to date.
We have a good deal of road and we want to put those roads in good
condition and use this special appropriation for that purpose. -
The CHAIRMAN. How do you take care of the roadways now Ż
Dr. HALL. We do what we can with our general appropriation.
Our general appropriation provides for general repairs. I would like
to do this special work of resurfacing and improving roadways.
NEW WOMEN’s DORMITORY. &
The CHAIRMAN. “For the removal of the college women's dormitory
and the construction, equipment, and furnishing of a new dormitory
to replace it, including necessary repairs, or replacement, of walks
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 737
and grading of grounds adjacent to said dormitory, $90,000: Prov-
vided, That not more than $3,000 of the above amount may be used
for erecting or renting temporary quarters for the use of those usually
housed in this dormitory, $90,000.”
Dr. HALL. That item has been in for several years.
The CHAIRMAN. I think we have gone into that very fully. Is there
anything additional you wish to say about it, Doctor'
Dr. HALL. No; except that we have been rather holding off with
the repairs on that building hoping we would get a new building.
We need it very much. I have explained the way it was built. It
was built, a small part of it, originally by Amos Kendall, out of his
own funds, and that building was extended by United States appro-
priations, making it a sort of U. It was intended first for the use of
small children such as we had a great many years ago. In the
course of time rooms have been provided for the small children in other
buildings, and this building has been transformed and cut up into
small rooms for our college girls. It is the oldest building we have,
not in good condition, and dangerous in case of fire.
It has been recommended by one member of this committee, who, a
year or two ago, went out there and actually saw it, that it be born
down and a new building be built. It is a dangerous building for
deaf young women to live in. I think if a fire started that in 15
minutes it would be in such condition people would get caught there.
It is a rambling structure, built in parts, with many hallways and
stairs that lead in various directions, a bad building altogether.
The CHAIRMAN. How many pupils is it contemplated this new
building will accommodate 7
Dr. HALL. Sixty, besides the necessary teachers who would live
there. -
The CHAIRMAN. Sixty students’
Dr. HALL. Yes. It would contain quite a number of rooms for
women teachers and officers whom we have to have live there with
our deaf girls.
FRIDAY, JANUARY 22, 1915.
|HOWARD UNIVERSITY.
STATEMENTS OF DR, STEPHEN M. NEWMAN, PRESIDENT;
GEORGE W. COOK, SECRETARY; AND EDWARD L, PARKS,
TREASURER,
MAINTENANCE, SALARIES, ETC.—PROFESSOR OF SOCIOLOGY.
The CHAIRMAN. For maintenance, Howard University, the appro-
priation is $65,000 and your estimate $68,851. Why is this increase
requested . --
r. NEWMAN. Mr. Chairman, the treasurer of the university has a
detailed statement item by item, but I think it would expedite the
ttention of the committee to it if I should say that one item is more
than one-third and less than one-half of that and you will find it on
page 449 about one-third of the way down, one professor of sociology,
$1,485. That is a chair we have never had, and every respectable
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institution has it and we have been trying to get it out of our own
funds in some way for several years. We want a man who would
investigate with his students and teach social conditions. We do
not want so much the social theories, though we want them to have
a good knowledge of these. You will notice that it is a totally new
thing and it is very desirable.
Mr. GILLETT. What does it mean by “in part” .
Dr. NEWMAN. That means that only nine-tenths of the salaries
are paid from Government appropriations. We pay out $20,000 or
$25,000 more for salaries of .#. SOrtS.
Mr. PARKS. There are some salaries paid entirely from our own
funds, but of these particular salaries we pay about that proportion.
Mr. GILLETT. From the endowment fund?
Mr. PARKS. From the income from endowments.
Dr. NEWMAN. We have a very small endowment, matriculation
fees and incidental fees.
The CHAIRMAN. What makes up the balance of the increase ?
Mr. PARKS. In the first place it is the result of some adjustments,
Some men are going and some new men are coming in. There are
certain reductions, and I will give first the items, $30, $90, $360,
$144, $225, making reductions in salaries $849. Then the increases
in salaries are these: $45, $170, $180, $90, $90, $45, $180, $135, $45,
$315 (that man only gets $600 and he has been working his first year
at only $300), $90, $90, $45, $90, $90, $45, $180, $45, $45, $90, $180,
$135, $270, $180, $45, $90, $30, $45, $45, $90, making the increases
$3,215 and this new position $1,485, which make a net increase of
$3,851. There are no increases in the salaries of the president or the
executive officers or the full professors. The increases are simply in
the younger men who have been working with us for several years
whose salaries run now from $600 to $1,000, and we want to give
them these small increases.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the amount of the endowment 7
Mir. PARKs. A little over $300,000. g
Dr. NEWMAN. It brings in about $13,000 revenue.
The CHAIRMAN. How is that expended ?
Dr. NEWMAN. From the general treasury. That goes into the
general fund of the university and helps pay anything, these addi-
tional teachers’ salaries or anything else.
TOOLS, MATERIALs, FUEL, WAGES OF INSTRUCTORS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. “For tools, materials, fuel, wages of instructors,
and other necessary expenses of the department of manual arts,
$12,000.” *
Dr. NEWMAN. Mr. Chairman, that is just the same we have had
for several years—$12,000—though our teachers change slightly, and
we have to get what we can out of the $12,000 for additional equip-
ment and supplies. In view of the condition of public funds, we have
felt we would crowd into that the amount needed.
The CHAIRMAN. This is chiefly for compensation of instructors,
is it .
Dr. NEWMAN. About two-thirds of it. We have to have accom-
plished instructors in engineering and domestic science, etc. Our
engineers are Cornell men, and we have to give them adequate com-
pensation.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 739
BOOKS, SHELVING, ETC., FOR LIBRARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For books, shelving, furniture, and fixtures for
the libraries, $1,500.” -
Dr. NEWMAN. The same amount is asked for. The larger portion
of that is spent for books. - -
IMPROVEMENT OF. GROUNDS AND REPAIRS TO BUILDINGS.
The CHAIRMAN. “For improvement of grounds and repairs of
buildings, to be immediately available, $10,000.”
Mr. COOK. That is the appropriation that has been given for sev-
eral years. We put it in at that amount because the Secretary of the
Interior would not permit any increase there, in going over it with
the Interior Lepartment, and if you wish I have a further itemiſ.ed
account of just how that will be expended.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not give a statement of how this money
was expended in 1914 under this appropriation.
Mr. PARKS. The reason that is not given is that in the matter of
repairs and improvement of grounds the items differ. You have to
repair one set of buildings and another set another year.
The CHAIRMAN. But we want to know how the money is spent.
Mr. COOK. That is a matter that can be given to the very cent out
of the account that the Interior epartment keeps and that we keep.
I did not know that you wanted it. It would be a very long account
because sometimes it is as low as 5 cents and from that amount up to
$2,000.
'The CHAIEMAN. We want that information in general terms that
is given here in other cases. What statement have you about these
rep, irs? ". .
. Cook. I have no written statement with me as to last year’s.
I could give you that. - -
Building and grownds appropriation expenditures, 1914.
Carpentry Work-------------------------------------------------------- $245. 50
Plumbing Work------------------------------------------------------- 940. 07
Painting (inside).----------- - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------- - - 520, 86
Repairs to roofs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 115. 72
Metal ceilings-------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,803. 50
Repairs to Science Hall-----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 887. 25
New flooring------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1, 2U2.98.
Material for improving walks----------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 289. 78
Papering-------------------------------------------------------------- 250. 00
Fire escapes----------------------------------------------------------- 442. (.0
Mateji ,1:
Lumber, nails, screws, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 364. 70
Glass-------------------------------------------------------------- 333. 77
Electrical supplies. . . . . .... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s = s. sº as e = * 213. C3
Labor allotment:
Unskilled laborers----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * , * = • * * * * * * ~ * ~ * 1,116.93
Carpenters----------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 408. 99
Tinners----------------------------------------------------------- 3.18. 50
Plasterers---------------------------------------------------------- 222. 01
Painters---------------------------------------------------------- 204. 75
Gardener---------------------------------------------------------- 187. 06
Electricians------------------------------------------------------- 132. 00
Bricklayers------------------------------------------------------- 78. 00
Machinists-------------------------------------------------------- 68.00
Plumbers.-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60. 00
Steam fitters------------------------------. . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 24. C0
740 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. What statement have you about the necessity for
$10,000 next year 7 *
Mr. COOK, I have it all here. In plumbing under repairs, I have
for the kitchen–the sinks are all worn out and the water system
is one that has been there ever since that building was built, about
50 years, and it has gotten so that on account of the condition of
the attachments we can not get cold water sometimes. It is all
hot water, and we have to change that system and that will amount
to about $200 and the sinks about $100. We have laid some walks
and that has changed the drain trenches somewhat, so that the
water stands on the campus now in pools both on the east and west
sides of the campus. We have put down $300 for sewers. That
will be a very small amount, but I superintend that work myself
and use day labor. By contract it would cost very much more.
Then we have had fires at our university and it developed that one
end of Minor Hall is without fire-plug facilities. We must put u
a stand pipe and run a main to that building for about 100 feet,
and I estimate that at $100. Our own engineer will do much of
that work and a great deal of that amount will be for material.
Coming to carpentry, Spalding Hall, which is the most unsightly
building on the campus, must have a wooden portico attachment
which will cost about $300. That is necessary in order to give the
building any kind of appearance that would be in line with the park-
ing there; as to the windows, we probably have about 2,000 win-
dows and the cords are worn and have become loose, and we must
build a library alcove for a special library which was given us on
the history of the negro race in this country; altogether, that makes
$300, which makes a total of $600 under carpentry. The carpentry
will cost a great deal more, but the emergencies can not be anticipated.
Now, under painting; I estimate for painting the exterior of Clark.
|Hall $560. It is now an unsightly building. We painted two of our
buildings last year. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What color is it 2
Mr. COOK. It was originally red, but it has had a coat of yellow
paint with brown trimmings, and it is now almost any hue between
red and bright yellow at different spots. It is of common red brick;
no pressed red brick work. For the interior of that hall I have esti-
mated $400 for painting and treatment of the walls. They are
plastered walls and the woodwork has not been painted for several
years, and the walls have not been tinted at all and they are very
unsightly, especially since we have put up the metal ceilings. Minor
Hall is of the same nature. The walls need tinting and all the wood-
work in the building needs painting except the annex, where the fire
was. Then coming to the library, the library walls have scaled.
That is the building Mr. Carnegie gave us with the express under-
standing, not in a contract but in an agreement, that it must be kept
up, and as you know, that is Mr. Carnegie's method of doing things.
Now the walls are scaling pretty generally. f
3; r. GILLETT. On the inside or outside'. -
.vir. Cook. On the inside. We do not paint that building on the
outside. That is built of Frederick brick, and we will never paint
that building. It is meant to be the color it is, and it is very much
like the Pension Office; but the inside needs treatment. I have ven-
tured upon putting that at $300 after consultation with a painter,
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but I do not imagine it can be done for that. Then, for Spalding Hall
the estimate for painting is $258, and I put that down at $260,
because if I put that addition on of the portico it will cost certainly
$2 more to paint it. Then the president's house is very much in
need of interior work. The present president of Howard University
has refused to allow me to do anything in there for two years, and for
the integrity of the property we will have to paint the inside of that
house. Then for the professors' houses I have only put down $ 00;
in fact, I mean to do $200 worth of work, and $100 o! that will go on
the president's house. There has been nothing done to the interior
for years. - -
Coming down to the roofs, which is the next specification, we have
no copper roofs at Howard University; they are all tin.
Mr. MONDELL. You are probably lucky in that from what we
have been hearing about copper roofs.
Mr. COOK. The Interior Department took off all the roofs, in
. º to put copper roofs on, just two years ago, when Mr. Ucker was
there.
The CHAIRMAN. Very few people in the world have copper roofs.
Mr. COOK. I do not mean to ask for any copper roofs; I only
want to show you why we want to repair the ones we have, and some
of them have not been repaired at all, and the roof has been there
for 30 or 40 years. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. We have been giving you money for repairing
your roofs, and if you have not repaired them that is your own fault.
Mr. COOK. We have repaired some of them, but you know Howard
University has a good many buildings, and some of the tin in Howard
University may not be as good as some of the other tin. The library
is a recently built building and is beginning to give trouble, but we
are repairing that, so far as the tin roof is concerned.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the matter with these slate roofs 3
Mr. COOK. The slate roof of Clark Hall is ribbon slate, and in
sending an expert up there last fall he brought a specimen down and
said, “I can not take a contract to repair this roof; it is all rotten
like this,” and then he just broke it to pieces with his fingers; that
was Huddleson Bros., here in the city. I said, “What will it cost to
ut that on?” and he said at first, “I would not roof your place for
ess than $1,500”; but after talking with another person, one of the
parties said that that roof could be repaired, just the slate part of it,
for $500. I do not remember just which one of the roofing men that
was. I had two sets of men to go and look at the roof.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the character of the roof 3
Mr. COOK. The mansard part of it is slate and the top is tin. You
can go there now and stand and look at Clark Hall and on the south
side you can see great patches where the slate has fallen off and this
man said he would not attempt to repair it because he said it would
fall off if he attempted to put any new slate on. He was looking
for work, but he refused to repair that roof, and he said, “It is all
going to fall off and your ribs will become rotten if you do not do
Something with it.” Then, as to the chapel, the tiling has fallen off
the ribs of the spire and they do not make that tiling any more. We
can correct this trouble by one of three ways: One would be to get
galvanized iron tiling of that same mold and paint it like the terra
cotta now on the spire ---and i do not suppose you would ever get the
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right color—or take it all off as has been recommended and slate it
with a blue slate, and then it would conform also with the roof of the
building; or take the spire off entirely, and that probably would be
the most expensive thing because then you would have to raise the
quadrangular part of it 4 feet.
I recommend that the tiling all be taken off and slate be put on
because it is falling off now and it is dangerous. That covers in
general the roofing question. ...We must look after the roofs, you
might say, every week, especially when we have heavy rains like the
one last week. :
The CHAIRMAN. You want $2,000 for metal ceilings?
Mr. Cook. Yes, sir; the plastering in Howard University in all the
buildings is simply old and dead, what the plasterers call dead, what-
ever life was in the hair is dead and it is continually falling and this
makes it dangerous. Now I have managed to put a metal ceiling on
Clark Hall interior and a great deal of the main building, but Miner
and Spalding Halls have not metal ceilings and it is for that reason
we are putting this item in and when they are once, put up they are
up forever. They do not fall. While we are doing this we are wiring
according to the laws of the District of Columbia. We can not cover
any of the old wiring for electricity. I have estimated for Miner
Hall $1,000, main building $800, and Spalding Hall $200. The
reason the main building is not as much as Miner Hall is because I
put up a great deal of metal ceiling there this year. I took it out of
the appropriation and all those items can be shown by copies of the
vouchers. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where did you say these ceilings are to go º
Mr. Cook. These ceilings are to go into Miner Hall, main building,
and Spalding Hall.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you call them :
Mr. Coor. The main building is the academic building, the large
recitation building, the original building of Howard University.
Miner Hall is a girls' dormitory, and Spalding Hall is used partly for
the industrial plant (the printing office is in there), for the Y. M. C. A.
purposes, and for physical culture.
The CHAIRMAN. You want $500 for repairing Science Hall ?
Mr. Cook. We are required by orders from the Interior Department
to keep $500 or $600 on tap for Science Hall. Science Hall is looked
upon as purely a Government building because the Government built
it, and the Interior Department has ordered us to make an allotment
out of our appropriation for buildings and repairs of $500 or $600–
keeping it in “repair. Last year it was $600. That is done so that
we may be ready at any time to repair any damages or any wear and
tear on Science Hall. We set that apart by orders of the Interior
Department. We put aside $500 to meet any emergency and any-
thing beyond that the university meets out of its general fund.
Then coming to the campus, this year the excavation for the Central
High School very much to our pleasure was brought to our university
and with it we raised the part of our campus that was below grade
and which was of no particular use because it was of such low level.
In doing that we had to build one retaining wall which was an emer-
gency matter. We did that out of the university funds. Now we
need another one south of the portico of Science Hall in order to
prevent the washing of earth down against the building. Then again
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 743
we must run a walk from Science, Hall up to the chapel or the walk
leading to the main building. This wall I speak of will cost $300 and
the walk which would be 150 feet by 7 feet will cost $300.
As to trees, our campus has been raised both at the northeast and
the entire south front. That has made a new parking. They want
us to keep that looking like McMillan Park on the east of us. In
order to ão so we must park it and plant trees. I am asking the
trustee board to give 200 trees and when we get those trees we have
to prepare the soil to plant them in order that the trees will not die,
because for a long time trees died on that hill, but it was because the
soil was not prepared beforehand. I put that down at $300 for the
trees, and the labor and attending to the campus $400, which would
mean a $1.50 per diem man during the year to do the necessary work.
As to fences, the fences of Howard University are now unsightly.
I have $100 estimated to spend on the fences and I think that makes
the $1,200. Now, in addition to that, the university is going to
spend money on the campus and must spend money on the campus
because $1,200 will not keep in order 25 acres of ground that is in
constant use as that is. I will be glad to answer any very particular
Questions about that for I have to look after that campus myself
and I know it is an expensive proposition.
The CHAIRMAN. You have not said anything about the item of
$2,200 for new flooring.
Mr. COOK. The floors I want to repair or to replace have been
there for 47 years, and they have been constantly tramped over, and
some of that flooring tramped over by at least 1,000 people several
times a day, and it is simply worn thin and all in ºft. It is
Georgia pine, and when it did begin to split it split right up. I have
torn up big pieces myself to prevent anybody being injured in the
foot by it, and the main building, with the exception of the hallway
of the first floor, is entirely without any new flooring, and has been
entirely without any new flooring for 47 years. .
Dr. NEWMAN. How many floors are you including in your estimate %
Mr. Cook. The top floor I am not asking to repair. It is not so
bad. It has not been used so much. The second and third floors
we intend to re-lay first. Some of those rooms have been used ever
since it was the old Freedmen's Bureau building, and I will have to
repair those. The item of carpentering of $600 probably will not
meet half of the expense. It is a case of attempting to keep up a
million-dollar plan on $10,000, with some of the buildings old and the
interior rather inferior because they are what are known in insurance
circles as fast-burning buildings, and the windows are continually
out of order. It costs something to keep 2,000 windows going on
account of the cords alone in the windows becoming worn out, and
some of them have not been replaced for a long time. Ten thousand
dollars will not do what I am going to do and certainly will not meet
what expense is absolutely necessary. Dr. Parks has the figures
over and above $10,000 that we spent last year.
Mr. PARKS. Of course this year is not completed, but the year
1913–14 we spent on those items $13,787—that is, we spent $3,787
from the general fund and $10,000 from the appropriations.
Mr. COOK. You understand that is a large plant and those buildings
are very large. The main building is 182 feet long and Clark Hall is
about the same length. .* .
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MEDICAL DEPARTMENT—-EQUIPMENT, LABORATORY SUPPLIES, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. “Medical Department: For part cost of needed
equipment, laboratory supplies, apparatus, and repair of laboratories
and buildings, $7,000.”
Dr. NEWMAN. Mr. Chairman, Dr. Balloch was here yesterday, but
he has some surgical operations to perform this morning, and I asked
the secretary and treasurer of the school of medicine, Mr. McNeill, to
come here to answer your questions. -
The giannas. What is the necessity of this appropriation of
$7,000 :
Dr. McNEILL. We have 10 laboratories, and we estimate we will
need about $240 apiece, which will bring it up to $2,400 for apparatus
and equipment for the 10 laboratories, as follows: The anatomical
laboratory, physiological laboratory, the chemical laboratory, the
laboratory of hygiene, dietetic laboratory, physiological laboratory,
bacteriological laboratory, pathological laboratory, and histological
laboratory.
The CHAIRMAN. How many medical students have you ?
Dr. McNEILL. We have 100 medical students, 125 dental students,
and 50 pharmaceutic students. The medical department consists of
3 colleges—medical, dentistry, and pharmacy.
The CHAIRMAN. What buildings have you ?,
Dr. McNEILL. We have two; the medical building and the dental
building. The medical building is a four-story and basement build-
ing and the dental building is one of the old wards that was used by
the Freedmen's Hospital, which has been changed into a dental build-
ing. It is two stories and about 120 feet long by 30 feet wide.
MATERIAL AND APPARATUS FOR CHEMICAL, PHYSICAL, AND NATURAL
- HISTORY LABORATORIES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For material and apparatus for chemical, phys-
ical, and natural history study and use in laboratories of the new
science hall, including cases and shelving, $2,000.”
Dr. NEWMAN. Mr. Chairman, that is the amount we have had for
the last few years and simply keeps up the necessary work. That is
allotted to each one of those sciences. There are three sciences in
that building with very large classes; chemical, physical, and natural
history or biological, and this $2,000 is allotted to each one of those;
$666.66 to each one. Additional apparatus and supplies; supplies,
for instance, in chemistry greatly taxes our funds over and above
any money used in this allotment, because they are used up, and in
the other cases that amount does not quite meet the total needed.
FUEL AND LIGHT.
The CHAIRMAN. “For fuel and light, $3,500.”
Mr. PARKS. Three thousand dollars of that amount is used for
labor and for fuel in connection with the central heating plant for
Howard University and for the Freedmen's Hospital, and $500 is used
for other fuel and gas.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you have any unexpended balance %
Mr. PARKs. No unexpended balance. We spent more than that
on those items.
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FRIDAY, JANUARY 22, 1915.
FREEDMEN'S HOSPITAL.
STATEMENT OF DR. W. A. WARFIELD,
SALARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For salaries and compensation of surgeon in
chief, not to exceed $3,000, and for all other professional and other
services that may be required and expressly approved by the Secre-
tary of the Interior”; the appropriation is $32,640, and your esti-
mate is $33,840. Is there any other source of revenue outside of the
appropriations? -
r. WARFIELD. Yes, sir; from pay patients.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does that amount to ?
Dr. WARFIELD. Last year it amounted to $5,307.85.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the only source of revenue outside of the
appropriations?
Dr. WARFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How many patients were cared for 7
Dr. WARFIELD. Three thousand three hundred and thirty-five
indoor and 6,415 outdoor.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the number of individual cases?
Dr. WARFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give the number by days?
Dr. WARFIELD. The days of maintenance furnished ?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Dr. WARFIELD. Yes, sir; 107,384, that is for indoor patients. I
have not the number for outdoor patients, we do not keep those.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the per capita cost'
Dr. WARFIELD, $1.35 per day.
The CHAIRMAN. That is for the indoor patients?
Dr. WARFIELD, Yes, sir.
STOREECEEPER.
Th; CHAIRMAN. You are asking $1,200 additional for what pur-
OSG -
p Dr. WARFIELD. A storekeeper.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the necessity for a storekeeper ?
Dr. WARFIELD. That is the same estimate that has been submitted
for a number of years to provide for a storekeeper to receive and
check up, weigh and issue all supplies received by the hospital. Last
year the cost of the supplies amounted to $99,303. It is thought that
it would be to the best interests of the Government to have some one
person to receive those supplies. Under the present arrangement
we have different employees making requisitions on themselves, for
instance. We do not believe that is a very good business proposition.
The CHAIRMAN. Who acts as storekeeper now %
Dr. WARFIELD. The clerk, my assistant, and myself, five different
parties looking after the supplies. -
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SUBSISTENCE, FUEL, LIGHT, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For subsistence, fuel and light,
clothing, bedding, forage, medicine, medical and surgical supplies,
etc.” and the appropriation is $28,000, and you are asking for $28,000?
Dr. WARFIELD. Yes, sir,
AMBULANCE, MAINTENCE OF.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to transfer the maintenance of the am
bulance to a separate item, $1,160. Why is that, Doctor :
Dr. WARFIELD. We understood that we were required to do so
under section 10 of the sundry civil act of July 1, 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. You are actually asking for $1,160 additional 7
Dr. WARFIELD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is for the purpose of the transfer
Dr. WARFIELD. Really there is no necessity for an increase.
The CHAIRMAN. If we do not transfer the ambulance, it is not
necessary to give you the $1,160 % - -
Dr. WARFIELD. Not in addition to the $2,800; no sir. We inter-
preted the act referred to a moment ago to require us to submit an
estimate covering the cost of maintaining, repairing, and Operating
the ambulance.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this merely for the maintenance and operation
of the ambulance, or does it include also the compensation to the
driver ?
Dr. WARFIELD. Yes, sir; it does. *
Mr. MoMDELL. If you have authority to maintain the ambulance
it will not be necessary to increase the item of $28,000 %
Dr. WARFIELD. No, sir.
SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1915.
ALASKA RAILROAD.
STATEMENT OF HON, FRANKLIN K. LANE, SECRETARY OF
THE INTERIOR. &
The CHAIRMAN. For the current year there was appropriated
$1,000,000 for the Alaska railways'
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. No estimate has been submitted, and we just
want to satisfy ourselves that you wanted no money.
Secretary LANE. We are in this position: The engineering com-
mission who have surveyed the routes in Alaska on the east side
and the west side of Prince William Sound are now preparing their
report. They have made an oral report to the President and to
me. We are considering which one of those two routes is the better
to follow and which one of several harbors is the best to go into.
On the east side of Prince William Sound there are Cordova and
Valdez as possible termini, and then you go up the Chitina Valley.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 747
On the west side there is Portège Bay and Seward. Seward has a
line running up 72 miles, about 30 miles of which is in operation
now, called the Alaska Northern. We have an offer from them to
sell and we have an offer from the Copper } iver people to sell. If
we went up on the west side we would go through the Susitna Valley.
The first question for the determination of the President is which
side of Prince William Sound he will take as the route, the east or
the west side. That he has not determined on. Whichever side he
takes, the probability is he will give consideration to the offer of sale
of an existing road, because one is on the east side and the other on
the west side. For that reason no estimate has been presented to
you as to the amount of money which would be necessary. I pre-
Sume that within the next few days we will present to you an estimate
for whatever work is to be undertaken.
The CHAIRMAN. You anticipate that before the expiration of
Congress a definite estimate will be submitted to Congress for con-
sideration? -
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. And when the estimate is submitted we can take
the matter up 3 - :
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir. I could not submit an estimate until
the President determined what the route should be. In one event
the estimate would probably be much higher than the other and we
might want to buy a piece of railroad on one side or the other, and
so our estimate will depend largely on what the President's decision
is and upon what kind of an arrangement we can make with the rail-
road people.
The CHAIRMAN. Are we to understand, then, that while no estimate
has been submitted thus far it is the expectation that an estimate
will be submitted in time to be considered by Congress at this session ?
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir. *
THURSDAY, JANUARY 21, 1915.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
STATEMENT OF MR. BERT HANSON, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
GENERAL,
CONDUCT OF CUSTOMS CASES-ATTORNEYS, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. For “Conduct of customs cases.” The appro-
º is $77,500 and your estimate is $77,500. Please state what
as been the situation relative to the work in this office during the
past year. &
Mr. HANSON. I do not understand just what you mean to get at.
The CHAIRMAN. The status of the business. -
Mr. HANSON. What the office has done?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. -
Mr. HANSON. We handle two classes of work. That is what you
want to go into ?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
748 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. HANSON. We handle reappraisement work and classification
work. There has been a surprising increase in the reappraisement
work because of the greater number of ad valorem duties under the
new tariff act. Although the importations have fallen off, even in
the very lightest months this year we had more reappraisement work
than before, and it looks as if we were going to get a further increase
in the reappraisement work. -
While in the past the office has been using two attorneys on re-
appraisement work I am using four. I am cutting down the number
of attorneys doing classification work. Much to our surprise there
has not been the decrease in the number of protests coming in which
we thought there would be because of the decrease in importations.
There has been some decrease in protests. Yet, there has not
been a corresponding decrease in the number of issues which we have
to try. The reason is that there are about as many classes of goods
coming in now as there were before, although the quantity is less.
Therefore the questions which come up are about the same in char-
acter. However, the new tariff act has had the effect of cutting
down the number of protests in a way that was not looked for. It
has cut down the number of contingent-fee protests, but I doubt
whether that has had very much effect.
The CHAIRMAN. You have a provision requiring a fee ?
Mr. HANSON. I will touch on that in a second. Probably the
attorneys are living up to the letter of the law as to contingent fees,
but in spirit probably they are getting around it in some way. The
$1 protest fee has cut down the protests considerably; but I think
the thing which has had more effect than anything else is that the
rates of duty are more uniform than ever before. Under earlier acts
there was greater advantage in getting the classification of an article
changed from one section to another than there is now.
The CHAIRMAN. The classifications have been simplified ?
Mr. HANSON. If an article is classified at the rate of 35 per cent, it
is not worth much to the impºrter to get it classified under another
paragraph at 30 per cent; whereas if it were changed from 50 per
cent to 30 per cent there would make a great difference. The rates
of duty are more uniform in this act than they have been before and
there are fewer protests. Another and important reason for the
decrease in the number of protests is that in drawing the act of 1913
the legislators used forms of language which had been used in earlier
agts and tested in the courts. By using again forms of language
which had already been interpreted by the courts, there was left less
opportunity for legislation. -
The CHAIRMAN. Please give us the figures indicating the relative
number.
Mr. HANSON. I will give you something on that. ... I was here in
Washington before the Court of Customs Appeals and was only noti-
fied of this hearing this noon, consequently I have little data with
nie. The number of protests for the year ended June 30 was less
then the preceding year and I think it is going to be less during the
current year; but, as I say, that has not shown a corresponding
decrease in the number of trials.
The CHAIRMAN. Please give us the number of protests . -
Mr. HANSON. I can give you the number for a series of years if it
would be an advantage to you. --- -
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The CHAIRMAN. If you will, please. - -
Mr. HANSON. First, I will give you comparative figures as to the
number of reappraisements and reappraisements received in recent
years: - z -
Years ending June 30–
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - sº e = - - - - - 4, 501
1914---------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,031
1914-----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7, 506
1913-------------------------------------------------------------. . . . . . 6, 560
1914------------------------------------------------------------------- 6, 216
Now, I will take up the number of protests received. Upon that,
this will interest you. The Board of General Appraisers has been
behind in its work and the customhouse at New York has been
months behind in its liquidations. That is, the customhouse liqui-
dates an entry in three months after the making of the entry. Then
the importer has 30 days in which to file his protest. So it is about
four months before the protests are sent up to the Board of General
Appraisers. The General Appraisers have been behind in their work,
but they are catching up now. This lull in importations enables
everybody to catch up. h -
This is something which will interest you gentlemen. I went
there in June last year. Coming in from general practice and looking
things over, I got an idea that the Government cases were not as well
prepared as they ought to be, particularly that the office was not
making the preliminary investigations of facts which ought to be
made. I have recently taken that up with one of the judges of the
Court of Customs Appeals. It would be more accurate to say that
he took it up with me. He came to me and said confidentially, that
as he sees the cases before his court, it seems to him that the Govern-
ment's cases have not been as thoroughly prepared as they ought to
have been. Then I took the matter up at New York with the presi-
dent of the Board of General Appraisers, and I found that he had
the same impression. So the three of us, recently coming in from
general practice, felt the same way. I think we ought to have in
that office; and, if you were not trying to keep the appropriation
down, I should have recommended that we be given some investi-
gators, who could go out and dig up facts for our attorneys to pre-
sent to the Board of General Appraisers. That would better enable
us to meet the evidence presented by the importers. I hope to try
the experiment anyway. I have taken the matter up with the
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, in charge of customs, Mr. Peters;
and it is practically agreed that he will let me have (temporarily, at
least) men who can act as investigators, so that we can try out the
experiment. Both of us believe that if we have men who can go out
and hunt up the facts, we shall present our cases to the Board of
General Appraisers in such a way that the importers will not “get
away with?’ as many things as they have in the past.
The CHAIRMAN. Please illustrate what you have in mind?
Mr. HANSON. For instance, take a case that I argued before the
Court of Customs Appeals this morning. There were brought to this
country some sweet Spanish peppers, which are vegetables botanically.
The importers contended before the Board of General Appraisers that
they were not vegetables commercially and therefore should not be
assessed as vegetables; that instead they should have been assessed
750 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
as a nonenumerated manufactured article. In that case to have
prepared it thoroughly –I simply take that as a typical case—we
should have sent out to the restaurants in New York and found out
whether these sweet peppers are eaten or not. The importers had
come in said, “These are not eaten; they are simply put on the table
to look pretty; and, as they are not enten, they are not vegetables.”
I happen to know, as a matter of f \ct, that they are eaten. That
fact should have been put in the evidence. That is typical. I think
we are going to be able to try the experiment through the courtesy of
the Treasury Department in loaning us some investigators.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you do when you try these cases?
Mr. HANSON. We have to rely mainly on the examiners who are
in the appraisers' office for our information. That is good as far as
it goes. The limitation on that is this: The examiner is in touch.
only with the importers. He is not in touch with the domestic
manufacturers or the people opposed to the importers—the people
who are most likely to have information. We do not exhaust that
source of information. We just touch on it and do the best we can,
but it is comparatively little that we can get at. For instance,
we have on the dockets before the Board of General Appraisers
at New York each month something between 5,000 and 6,000 pro-
tests for trial. I can furnish you with some very interesting figures.
There are ultimately a good many disposed of by stipulation.
Take the first week in February, for instance. Before Board 1–
there are three boards—the calendar will run, say, about 1,200 cases.
I have not the exact figures. Two or three days before the first
Monday in February by stipulation that number will have been
reduced to, say, 300. We will go to the trial room on Monday of
that week with 300 protests upon which we may have to go to trial.
We shall have made such preparation as is physically possible.
With these investigators whom we are going to get from the Treasury
Department we will make more investigations and get more facts
and evidence to present to the board.
The CHAIRMAN. Please give the number of protests received and,
if you have the figures, the number of protests tried and disposed of
during the same time?
Mr. HANSON. I can give you these figures—the number of protests
pending at the beginning of year, the number received during the
ear, the number decided during the year, the number pending at
the end of the year, and the number suspended at the end of the year.
The CHAIRMAN. The number of protests?
Mr. HANSON. Yes, sir; the number of protests. These figures are
taken from our last annual report and were originally furnished by
the clerk of the Board of General Appraisers. ge
Year ended June 30–

1911
1912
1913.
1914
Pending at beginning of year. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 95,220 | 116,087 || 170,855 146,153 105,731
Received during year. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 65,951 | 121, 187 96,099 58,061 42, 125
Decided during year. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45,085 66,419 || 120,801 98,483 56,941
Pending at end of year. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 116,086 170,855 146,153 105,731 90,915
Suspended at end of year. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33,490 51,524 9, 256 26,334 28,500
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The CHAIRMAN. Please send to us the same information for the first
six months of the present fiscal year? -
Mr. HANSON. I will get it together.
The CHAIRMAN: What do you mean by “suspended” .
Mr. HANSON, I can illustrate: The 5 per cent discount issue has
been tried and decided by the Board of General Appraisers. An
appeal has been taken and is now pending before the Court of Cus-
toms Appeals. Hundreds and thousands of other protests involve
that same issue. They have been suspended until the 5 per cent
issue is finally decided.
The CHAIRMAN. They will be disposed of by the decision in some
pending case ?
Mr. HANSON. They do not suspend them to abide the result; but
under stipulation the trial of the protests is put off until the test case
has been disposed of. -
The CHAIRMAN. And the pending case will largely determine?
Mr. HANSON, Yes, sir. They will all be put on the docket again,
but probably they will not be tried. Their disposition will follow the
disposition of the test case.
The CHAIRMAN. That is all under the protests?
Mr. HANSON. The large figures, running into the several thousands,
are protests. I have the comparative figures on reappraisements also.
The CHAIRMAN. The only change you are asking is a shift of $1,000
from one item to another?
Mr. HANSON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is that $36,000 instead of $35,000 be author-
ized for the compensation of attorneys and $26,000 instead of $27,000
to be ºf for the expense of clerical assistance?
Mr. HANSON. Yes, sir. There is one thing that would be advan-
tageous, I believe. First, let me give you a word as to the act
creating this Cffice. . The act creating this Cffice provides for an
Assistant Attorney General, a Deputy Assistant Attorney General,
and several assistant attorneys general—assistants with fixed statutory
Salaries—and special attorneys whose salaries are not fixed by the
statute. As time has gone on, Congress has failed to appropriate
for various of these statutory positions until now there are left only
two assistant attorneys for whom appropriations are made, one at
$4,500 and one at $3,000. I believe it would make for better admin-
istration and enable the Attorney General to handle the Office better
if you should cut out those two appropriatiºns and add the equivalent
amount—that is, $7,500—to the amount for special attorneys; not
change the amount appropriated for attorneys, but simply make it
possible to use that for special attorneys. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why?
Mr. HANSON. There is one $4,500 position. I believe the present
incumbent will probably leave us before very long.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean leave voluntarily -
Mr. HANSON, I think he will probably be asked to resign. The
result undºr the prºsent situation is that a sp cial attorney, now
getting $4,000, will be given the $4,500 place, and a new man will be
put in at eith’r $3,000 or $4,000. If we did not have to put one man
in this $4,500 place, the man now getting $4,000 would not be in-
creased. Probably he would not be given an increase of $500.
I have recommended that we appoint new men at $3,000, and from
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time to time as they get acquainted with the work, etc., increase
them to $4,000, step by step; that $4,000 be the maximum salary,
the standard; the Attorney General has informally approved that.
Heretofora new men have been appointed at $4,000. That has been
the standard there, and once a man was in he had nothing to look
forward to. I want a little civil service in the office. -
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean that if you should get a lump sum it
would result in smaller salaries 7 - - 8
Mr. HANSON. I do not believe you would ever have a $4,500 man
agall). * - .
Mr. GILLETT. Do you think that you could get adequate return in
work without paying $4,500 % .
Mr. HANSON. There is no question about that.
The CHAIRMAN. Please explain the reason for the transfer of
$1,000 from clerical assistance to spacial attorneys. -
Mr. HANSON. I can give you that now. For 1914 we had 13
attorneys. - . -
The CHAIRMAN. Including yourself Ż
Mr. HANSON. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you had 14%
Mr. HANSON. Yes, sir; I mean in addition to the Assistant Attorney
General. There were 13 assistant attorneys and special attorneys,
of whom 1 was carried as special attorney and as chief clerk. He
was more of a chief clerk than an attorney. You might say that we
had 12% attorneys. A year ago vou cut out the appropriation for
1 of the assistant attorneys at $5,000. That left us, say, 11%
men. Well, we have changed things around so that now we have
12 men. The man who was special attorney and chief clerk has
gone, and we have no chief clerk. In order to equalize things and
give me 12 men—an increase from 11% to 12 men—I want to increase
that amount by $1,000. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you use any part of the attorneys’ allotment
for the payment of clerks?
Mr. PłANSON. That is what happened before. I want to pay all
the attorneys out of the appropriation for attorneys. That man who.
was half attorney and half chief clerk got $1,500 out of the appro-
priation for attorneys and $2,500 out of the appropriation for clerical
assistance. I think a man should be either one or the other.
Mr. GILLETT. What would you pay the chief clerk?
Mr. HANSON. We do not want any chief clerk. I have one of my
attorneys whom I am calling managing attorney. That is all there
is to it. The man who was there as chief clerk had grown up as a
clerk, and in the course of time he had been admitted to the bar and
had the title given him “special attorney and chief clerk.” He is no
longer in the service. g . . '.
The CHAIRMAN. In the organization of the force of your office
you have a managing clerk who is really an attorney and keeps track
of all the business of the office and work?
Mr. HANSON. Yes, sir. I call him managing attorney. He is the
man who looks after all the details of the office.
The CHAIRMAN. The managing attorney is really doing law work
and administrative work?
Mr. HANSON. Yes, sir. I want to say on behalf of my predecessors
in the office that year after year they have turned back anywhere
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from $3,000 to $4,000 or $5,000 of the appropriation. They have
not spent it needlessly, and I can say that no money will be spent
needlessly under the present administration.
TRAVELING EXPENSES AND FEES OF WITNESSES, BOARD OF GENERAL
- APPRAISERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For traveling expenses, fees,
and mileage allowance of witnesses before the Board of †. States
General Appraisers,” $3,000% &-
Mr. HANSON. That brings up a very interesting question which I
had up with the Treasury Department and my own department, the
Department of Justice. Recently it became necessary in a to-
bacco case at Los Angeles, where there was a large amount of duty
involved, for us to take from Chicago, or near there, to Los Angeles an
expert tobacco witness, and we agreed to pay him at the rate of $6
and some cents a day and traveling expenses. As a matter of fact,
the compensation paid to him in that way was less than he would
have received at the rate of the regular witness fee, $1.50, plus
mileage; but it does not make any difference whether it is more or less.
The question is, out of which appropriation that should be paid. A
similar case is coming up in Baltimore. It will be necessary to take
from New York to Baltimore an antique-furniture dealer as an expert
witness, and we shall pay him at the rate of $50 a day and expenses.
It is worth it. It has been ruled that an expert witness can not be
paid out of that item, that out of that item we can pay only men who
get the regular witness fee, namely $1.50, plus mileage. The result is
that in order to pay those witnesses the money has to be taken out
of the appropriation which is on the preceding page, which, I under-
stand, is intended for office expenses, etc.; but in the past that has
been the only way to handle it. I think it would be advantageous
if you would modify this item so that expert witnesses could be paid
out of it. Out of the item of $3,000 for witness fees we have been
º only five or six hundred dollars since the item has been in
the bill. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Will $3,000 cover it .
Mr. HANSON. I believe that amount would be sufficient, because
we do not have to call experts very often. Ordinarily our witnesses
are merchants in New York who either come in voluntarily or on
whom we serve subpoenas and pay the regular subpoena fees, but once
in a while we need an expert. I think the $3,000 would be sufficient.
I will send you data as to our expenditures for witnesses, both
ordinary and expert witnesses. -
The CHAIRMAN. Those fees are paid out of the other appropriation
under the language “Necessary clerical assistance and other employees
at the seat of government and elsewhere, to be employed and compen-
sation fixed by the Attorney General,” and this appropriation is for
“traveling expenses, fees, and mileage allowance of witnesses before
the Board of United States General Appraisers.” Has the question
ever been raised by the comptroller'. -
Mr. HANSON. The comptroller has ruled that out of the latter item,
the witness item, there can be paid only statutory witness fees. That
has been the practice for some time. I feel about this whole thing
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that the amount of revenues depends so much on our doing effective
work that we ought not to be hampered on the question of paying
expert witnesses. It is only to-day that this matter came up in dis-
cussion with the department. I had no idea of bringing it up until
the matter came up in the department to-day. In fact, it would not
be a bad idea if the amount were increased. -
The CHAIRMAN. We gave you the amount estimated.
Mr. HANSON. It was only to-day that I knew of this matter.
The CHAIRMAN. There has been, as a rule, a surplus in the other
appropriation ? -
Mr. HANSON. Every year there has been; but I want to use what-
ever excess there may be for the employment of clerks who can be.
used as investigators, if this experiment which I am going to try
works out well. I think that will be money well invested for the
Government. You can not try law suits unless you have the evidence,
and I feel that in the past we have not been in a position to get all the
evidence. &
THURSDAY, JANUARY 22, 1915.
STATEMENTS OF MR. GEORGE C, TODD, ASSISTANT TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL; MR. H. S. THOMPSON AND MR. S. J.
GRAHAM, ASSISTANT ATTORNEYS GENERAL; MR. D. D.
CALDWELL, ATTORNEY: MR. BLACKBURN ESTERLINE,
SPECIAL ASSISTANT ATTORNEY; MR. A. B. BIELASKI, CHIEF
DIVISION OF INVESTIGATIONS: AND MESSRS, J. D. HARRIS
AND C. R. SHERWOOD,
DEFENDING SUITS IN CLAIMS AGAINST TEIE UNITED STATES.–INDIAN
IDE PREDATION CLAIMS.
[See p. 757.]
The CHAIRMAN. “Defending suits in claims against the United
States,” the appropriation is $17,000 and your estimate is $30,000.
How do you account for that % - -
Mr. THOMPSON. Last year we had the appropriation under two
heads, one for Indian depredation claims and the other for the other
claims that come up before the Court of Claims. The total of the
two appropriations made $36,000, but we figured that all of the
Indian depredation claims would be cleaned up this year by June;
in fact, I so stated before the committee last year. A short time ago
Congress passed a bill sending down 500 more claims which will take
us about two years to finish up. Those claims cover sums amounting
to about $1,000,000. -
Mr. GILLETT. What kind of claims ? - - - *
Mr. THOMPSON. Indian depredation claims. . It is necessary, there-
fore, to keep the Indian depredation department going, but as both
of them are under my bureau there is no necessity for having the
appropriations separate. I think that I can get along on less than
the $36,000 which we were originally getting by the two appropria-
tions; in other words, I can cut down, I think I ought to say here, to
$31,000, because we spent last year a total of $30,028.48.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 755
The CHAIRMAN. Under Indian depredations you spent $15,000.
Mr. THOMPSON. Under the Indian depredation appropriation we
spent last year $15,549.50, and in the other department, defending
suits in claims against the United States Government, we spent
$14,478.98, making a total of $30,0 8.48. I am now suggesting that
the º be cut down to $31,000, although in my statement
that I handed in previous to the passage of the Indian depredation
bill I made it $30,000. The reason for asking for the extra $1,000 is
that we will have a great deal more work because of this new bill
than we expected.
The CHAIRMAN. At the end of this year the Indian depredation
work was to stop 7 &
Mr. THOMPson. Yes, sir. * -
The CHAIRMAN. And therefore that whole bureau was to go out of
existence, and that cost $19,000 : -
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes. º -
The CHAIRMAN. Now, treat shese items separately. We can not
get them mixed up in this way. For defense of suits in the Court of
Claims, how much do you contemplate you will use next year?
Mr. THOMPSON. Let me interrupt you there a minute, Mr. Fitz-
gerald. All of these suits are in the Court of Claims.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand that. -
Mr. THOMPSON. And the same attorneys take care of them; that is,
they are all assigned to one bureau. r -
The CHAIRMAN. But they are distinct services and they are distinct
forces, and you are proposing that the force that was provided for
the defense of Indian depredation claims, although that work will all
be ended, still you are going to retain the bulk of the appropriation?
Mr. THOMPSON. No; only two attorneys.
The CHAIRMAN. You still want to retain the bulk of the appro-
priation, two-thirds of it, although that work is ended ?
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes; I figured on that work being practically ended
by June, but there would have been odds and ends to complete,
requiring an appropriation. The situation is changed now because
of the additional 500 cases referred to.
The CHAIRMAN. Let us treat them separately because that is the
Only way we can consider them.
Mr. THOMPSON. The only point I want to make now is that these
Indian depredation attorneys are not separate and distinct. They
have all been consolidated under my bureau by the Attorney General,
although Indian depredation salaries and expenses are paid out of a
specific appropriation, while the other attorneys hold statutory
positions.
The CHAIRMAN. But that work, so far as Congress is concerned,
is separate and distinct. The purpose was very definite, and that was,
when certain work was ended those employees were to be dropped.
Of course, if you consolidate them we can not keep any track of them.
Every time any additional work is given to the Department of
Justice they ask for a special appropriation to do that work and we
have to keep those matters separate to keep any track of them at all.
Now let us take up the first one. In 1914 you expended how much 3
Mr. THOMPson, $14,478.98 out of $15,000 appropriated for “De-
fense of suits in the Court of Claims,” which does not include Indian
depredation. ;
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The CHAIRMAN. What is the estimate of the amount required for
that work next year } - -
Mr. THOMPson. $18,000. I will say that it will mean a tremendous
loss if you keep these two matters separate. I have to send men,
for example, to Texas to take testimony in cases on Indian depreda-
tions and all along the route there will be congressional cases and
general jurisdiction cases and the same man could go right along
and take those cases. Now if you are going to keep these two matters
separate you are simply going to double the expense.
Owing to the fact that we had only $15,000 for last year we had to
discontinue all field work during the last three months of that fiscal
year. This necessarily delays the preparation of cases. For this
reason the appropriation was increased for the present year to
$17,000. I am asking $18,000 for next year, which is a very con-
servative estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. You interchange them mow % - .
Mr. THOMPson. I do not interchange them but that is just what
I want to do and what I am trying to do by consolidating the appro-
priations. That is my explanation for cutting down the total of
the two appropriations.
The CHAIRMAN. You do interchange them now %
Mr. THOMPsoN. We have not interchanged them.
The CHAIRMAN. You say some of these employees are engaged in
both kinds of work?
Mr. THOMPson. No; I say some of these employees have the
general jurisdiction cases, some of them have the Indian depreda-
tion cases, but that I want it so that they can all do one or the other,
or both, when advantageous. .
The CHAIRMAN. You said that two of the attorneys who were
doing Indian depredation work were also doing the other work?
Mr. THOMPSON. If I said that I did not mean to state it. I have
three men who are doing Indian depredation work, and it is planned
to drop one of those men in the next couple of months.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, with reference to the item for defense in
Indian depredation claims, $6,000 is authorized to be expended in
Washington for employees. * ~.
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And there is nothing permitted to be expended
under the other item for employees in Washington?
Mr. THOMPsoN. All my other employees are under statutory sala-
ries, which has nothing to do with this bill at all. This is only for
expenses.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand that. You estimate that you will
require $18,000 for those expenses next year?
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes; for “defense of suits in the Court of Claims,’
as the appropriation is designated. g -
The CHAIRMAN. How many suits are pending and how many were
disposed of last year? _ * ,
Mr. THOMPson. Of the general suits? You do not mean the Indian
depredation cases? - -
The CHAIRMAN. I am talking about the suits before the Court of
Claims. *
Mr. THOMPson. We tried 1,000 cases last year.
The CHAIRMAN. Disposed of that many
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Mr. THOMPson. Yes; we disposed of 1,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How many are pending?
Mr. THOMPSON. There are 13,000 suits pending. -
The CHAIRMAN. You dispose of them at that rate right along?
Mr. THOMPSON. Last year we disposed of more than have ever been
disposed of before. The highest, I should say, at any time previous
was in the neighborhood of 500 claims. ... *
The CHAIRMAN. At what rate do they come in during the year }
Mr. THOMPSON. Congress sent down 2,500 claims last year and we
got on general jurisdiction cases, which do not come through Congress
but come as direct suits in the Court of Claims, about 450. In a great
many of those claims referred by Congress claimants will do nothing.
They will have the claims filed and then they will let them lie without
action, and under the two-year rule we will dismiss them. We dis-
missed 5,000 claims this year.
DEFENSE IN INDIAN DEPREDATION CLAIMS.
[See p. 754.]
The CHAIRMAN. Under the item “Defense in Indian depredation
claims” Congress enacted a law which removed the necessity for
proving citizenship 7 - -
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes, sir. **
The CHAIRMAN. And that affected how many claims ?
Mr. THOMPSON. Approximately 500.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those claims all pretty well advanced
Mr. THOMPSON. You mean as to having found the evidence, etc. :
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. -
Mr. THOMPSON. There are about 200 of them in which the evidence
has to a great extent been completed and in the other 300 it has not.
There will be great difficulty in obtaining evidence in those cases
because of the lapse of time since the depredation. We will have to
º men into the field to hunt for witnesses for the Government’s
S1C10.
l The gham was How much is it estimated will be required on those
C18,1]OOlS :
Mr. THOMPSON. We are going to drop one man, but there will be
more field work than there was in times past. --
d The ºne's What is the compensation of the man who will be
Topped
Mr. THOMPSON. He gets a per diem of $10 a day and his expenses
while out in the field. We will have greater expense in the procuring
of witnesses, because we pay witness fees in these cases. I did not
contemplate you would not want to join these two items together
and I have not the figures separately, but I would estimate $14,000
for Indian depredation work this year, if the appropriations remain
º
... The CHAIRMAN. All the other Indian depredation claims will be
disposed of by the end of this year?
Mr. THOMPson. The others will, yes.
Mr. MONDELL. If those two items are kept separate it will still be
Fº for you to have your agents in the field look after cases to
e paid for from each of these two appropriations, will it not?
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Mr. THOMPSON. From either fund 3
Mr. MoRDELL. Yes.
Mr. THOMPson. No; it will not. Under the present law a man who
works on Indian depredation claims can not be paid out of the other
fund; that is, his expenses. For instance, we will have a lot of cases,
we will say, in the South and Southwest, and my idea was to send
one man down there taking the testimony, making out an itinerary
for him, and let him take both the congressional cases which come
under this fund and also the Indian depredation cases.
Mr. MoRDELL. You say that under the law it would not be possible
to apportion that man's salary and expenses between the two items ?
Mr. THOMPSON. No. .
Mr. MonoFLL. We do not change the law in consolidating these two
items. If it is not possible under the law to do it, a consolidation of
the two items in an appropriation bill would not give you authority
to do it. -
Mr. THOMPson. Yes; but as I understand Mr. Fitzgerald, he wants
to keep the appropriation for Indian depredation claims separate
from the appropriation for the other cases.
Mr. MondBLL. What I am trying to find out is what the situation
is with regard to your authority and then the practical side of it, what
can be done in a practical way. Many Government services apportion
a man's salary and his expenses to various appropriations or various
items of appropriation, and I wondered if you could not do that.
Even though these two items are separate, if a man were working
on general claims and at the same time working on Indian depreda-
tion claims, why can you not apportion his salary and his expenses
between the two items, if they are kept separate, provided he is work-
ing on both of them 3
Mr. THOMPson. The accounting officers have declined to do that.
In fact, it can not be done, as there is no provision for salaries in the
appropriation for “Defense of suits.” That is the reason, why I
drafted this form for a bill on the first page here, reading as follows:
Defending suits in claims against the United States: For defraying the necessary
expenses incurred in the examination of witnesses and procuring of evidence in the
matter of claims against the United States and such other expenditures as may be
necessary in defending suits in the Court of Claims, including the defense in Indian
depredation claims, not exceeding $1,000 of which may be expended for law books,
to be expended under the direction of the Attorney General, $30,000: Provided,
That said º need not be apportioned as required by the provisions of
section 3679, Revised Statutes, as amended February 27, 1906 (34 Stats. L., 49): Pro-
vided further, That not exceeding $7,250 of said appropriation shall be available for
the payment of salaries of necessary employees in Washington.
Under the Indian depredation act at present you allow us to pay
so much of the Indian depredation appropriation for salaries and the
residue of it for the expenses incidental to travel and the taking of
testimony and paying witness fees. We cut down in that statement
the amount of salaries which would be allowed to those having charge
of Indian depredation cases and we consolidate the two appropria-
tions. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. The authority contained in the provision is to
expend not to exceed $6,000 for salaries of necessary employees in
Washington, and your statement shows that $7,250 has been spent.
How do you manage to do that %
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 7.59
Mr. THOMPSON. The $7,250 has not been expended. That is the
estimate for the coming year. One of those is a messenger at $840,
one is a clerk at $1,400, and two attorneys at $2,500 each. At the
present time two of those men are men outside of Washington and they
are getting a per diem of $10 a day, drawing it out of the general
Indian depredation fund and not getting a regular salary. That
makes them get a salary of about $3,500 a year. I was going to cut
the three men down to two and give those two men each $2,500 and
have them have their residence at Washington and let them travel
at any time we saw fit to send them out. Last year we spent on
salaries approximately $11,742.73.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they receive subsistence in addition ?
Mr. THOMPSON. They receive expenses when on the road, and have
been receiving $3 a day subsistence in Washington. .
The CHAIRMAN. What do they receive now %
Mr. THOMPson. They receive out of the fund of $19,000 $10 a day
for each day's work, and while they are out of Washington they get
actual expenses, and have been receiving $3 a day for subsistence
in Washington. .
The CHAIRMAN. Were they paid more than $5,000 in 1914%
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. How .
Mr. THOMPSON. These two field men got $10 a day and it amounted
to more than $5,000. - -
The CHAIRMAN. The statement is that there was expended $5,000
for two attorneys.
Mr. THOMPSON. That is what is proposed for the coming year.
The CHAIRMAN. I am talking about 1914. What was expended ?
Mr. THOMPson. You may have that amount before you, but I
figure it would be more. +
The CHAIRMAN. This is the statement you submitted.
Mr. THOMPson. I have my statement right here.
The CHAIRMAN. The statement filed shows that in 1914 two attor-
neys were paid $5,000 and a clerk $1,400 and a messenger $840.
Mr. THOMPson. I do not know how that statement got here,
because that can not be correct. You are reading the figures of my
estimate for the coming year. - .
The CHAIRMAN. Then file a correct one of how much it would be.
Mr. THOMPSON. I submit a correct statement of expenditures for
1914, and the estimates for 1916, provided the appropriations are
consolidated. As suggested in the preceding testimony, if the
appropriations are not consolidated, we should have $18,000 for the
“defense of suits in the Court of Claims,” and $14,000 for defense in
Indian depredation cases. For a number of years our appropriation
for the “defense of suits in the Court of Claims” has been so low that
we have been delayed in our field work, and consequently delayed in
the preparation of cases for trial. Unless we have as much as $18,000
both the Government and claimants will be delayed, which subjects
the department to criticism. -
Mr. MondELL. That is a statement of those you expect to employ 3
Mr. THOMPSON. Yes, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. But it is also submitted as a statement of what
you actually expended ? - .
760 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. THOMPSON. That is incorrect. I do not know how that got in
here. I have my statement here. That is what we expect to spend.
We spent last year, as I have stated here, and as the statement of the
department before vou shows, $11,742.73. This refers now to salaries
in Indian depredation cases.
1914. 1916.
Indian depredation cases: Proposed roll:
Compensation. . . . . . . . . . $11,742.73 Clerk. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,400.00
- Expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,806. 77 Messenger... . . . . . . . . . . . . 840, 00
*s-mº-º-º-º-º-º-º-º-º-º: 2 attorneys. . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000.00
15, 549. 50 t
Defending suits in claims Classification:
against the United States: Compensation. . . . . . . . . . 7, 250.00
Travel and subsistence - Travel and subsistence
eXpenSes. . . . . . . . . . . . . 7, 748. 47 eXpenSeS. - - - - - - - - - - - - 13, 500.00
Other items. . . . . . . . . . . . 6, 730. 51 Books and supplies. . . . . . 2,000.00
--- Witness fees and other -
14,478.98 items-----------------. 7, 250.00
Total . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,028. 48
DETECTION AND PROSECUTION OF CRIMES.
The CHAIRMAN. For the detection and prosecution of crimes against
the United States, etc., the appropriation is $485,000, and your esti-
mate is $485,000. What work is done under this appropriation, Mr.
Bielaski? - - -
Mr. BIELASKI. This appropriation covers the salaries and expenses
of special agents of the department, the expenses of examiners of the
department, the salaries and expenses of the expert accountants, the
special agents and accountants being engaged in the collection of evi-
dence for use in Federal cases, and the examiners in the examination
of the records, accounts, and official conduct of the Federal court
officials. ... •
The CHAIRMAN. This includes all of the employees employed by the
Department of Justice in obtaining evidence 2
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir. I should also possibly have mentioned the
class of local white-slave officers. . . . . .
The CHAIRMAN. Who are the employees, and their compensation,
employed in Washington . Eighteen thousand five hundred dollars
is authorized to be expended for that purpose.
Mr. BIELASKI. First is the special investigator and assistant to the
Attorney General, $4,000 per annum. * *
The CHAIRMAN. Can you indicate the ones in Washington
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir; beginning on page 463. * *
The CHAIRMAN. The speciſinvestigatºr is the chief of the bureau ?
Mr. BIELASKI. No, sir; the chief of the bureau is appropriated for
in the legislative bill. That is Mr. Wrisley Brown. Two assistants,
at $2,500; one, at $2,400; then we come down to one clerk, at $1,400;
four stenographers, at $75 per month, $900 per annum; and 1 clerk,
at $1,800.
The CHAIRMAN. And the others are employed in the field 3
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Under this provision, now the official act, records
and accounts of marshals, attorneys, clerks, and referees of United
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 761
States courts and the Territorial courts, and the United States com-
missioners are examined. Do you do any of that work?
Mr. BIELASKI. Oh, yes, sir; we are now making examinations at
the rate of every two years. -
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the result since you started that
system of biennial examinations? * .
Mr. BIELASKI. We have just really gotten them as frequent as two
years within the last few months—just gotten them up to two years.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the result. Prior to that time there
had not been much examination of these records, had there?
Mr. BIELASKI. The records had been examined regularly, but it
had been as infrequent as every four years, although the time has
been decreasing for some years, and we have gotten now to the point
where we get around once in every two years. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the result of that ?
Mr. BIELASKI. In a general way I think the result has been very
beneficial. During the past few years it has almost revolutionized
the manner in which the clerks of the United States courts have
handled their trust funds. We think that situation now is pretty
thoroughly cleaned up, and the practice of clerks in making personal
use or wrongful use of trust funds is practically done away with by
reason of the regulations that have been established and the exami-
nations that have been made. In the other offices it enables the
department to get first-hand knowledge of the field conditions and to
make its authorizations for expenditures and to know the caliber
and the conduct of its men, and keeps the docket of the United States
cases cleared and the department informed of the progress of all of
the casts instituted. .
The CHAIRMAN. While you have authority to use these employees
for the protection of the person of the President, no money is expended
for that purpose 2 -
Mr. BIELASKI. No money has ever been expended for that purpose.
The CHAIRMAN. What other class of work is done in a general way?
Mr. BIELASKI. The classes of work include all investigating work
of violations of the Federal statutes not specially covered by some
other force. The principal classes of work we do are the antitrust
work, white-slave work, bankruptcy, neutrality, national-bank cases,
and so on. Those are the principal cases. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give a statement showing what has been
done by classes' - * ‘. --
Mr. BIELASKI., I have included in the Attorney General's annual º
report a statement of that sort for the last fiscal year. I could furnish
for this record a similar statement including October and November
in a couple of days. -
The CHAIRMAN. Will you do that %
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
[Fiscal year 1914.]

36,073.45
Nature of investigation. July. August. September. October. November.
Alien contract labor law. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $161.95 |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bankruptcy frauds. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,340.97 $766.95 || $1,019.75 || $1,514. 16 $763.46
Bribery-----------------------------------|------------|------------ 22. 98.65 143.
Bucket Shops.--------------------------... 20. 97 24.30 ------------------------|------------
Conspiracy to defraud. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24.76 ------------|-----------. 82.68 407.76
Court officials, examinations of accounts, etc. 2,243. 07 2,523.76 2,714. 20 2,814.90 2, 531.66
Customs frauds............................ 94.69 36.00 ------------|------------ 54. 55
Embezzlement. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------- 27, 21 19. 11 |------------ 25. I6 20. 14
Explosives, illegal transportation of.......]..................................... 15.00 - - - - - - - - - - - -
Forgºry-----------------------------------|------------|------------ 47. 70 24.99 63. 15
Fugitives:---------------------------...... 179. 79 101. 29 41. 70 19, 77 193. 10
. Immigration and naturalization. . . . . . . . . . . 105. S9 44.94 ------------|------------ 19.09
Impersonating Government officials. . . . . . . 316. 58 522. 50 207. 21 414. 70 586.92
Internal-revenue frauds... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 168.69 425. 64 293. 61 49.86 51. 60 -
Land frauds.................... - - - - - - - - - - - 523.93 405. 45 574. 14 375. 20 205. 58
Lotteries. . . . . . . . .......................... 79.25 64. 22 - - - - - - - - - - - - 23.78 . . . . . . . . . . . .
Murder gases. :----------------------. . . . . . 21.82 2,045.72 |. 2,671. 22 1,956.48 2, 141.89
National banking laws..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,287.64 2,906.93 3, 544.43 4, 114.24 4,852. 20
Neutrality--------------------------------. 303. 43 215.96 453.94 462.92 | { 961.47
Pardon, civil rights, parole, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . 62. 67 39. 49 100. 50 101.97 62.50
Patent and copyright laws...... . . . . . . . . . . . 117, 23 307. 24 100.09 68. 67 27.78
Penitentiaries, investigations at.... . . . . . . . . 155, 00 112.54 - . . . . . . . ----|- . . . . . . . ----------------
Peonage cases.---------------------........ 235. 35 294. 47 397. 79 536. 49 390. 74
Perjury------------------------------------ 20.97 |- - - - - - - - - - - - 16.00 230.61 |- - - - - - - - - - - -
Post-Office cases (postal frauds). . . . . . . . . . . . 3, 175.98 3, 178. 76 2,874.33 3,297.36 3,601.63
Pure-food cases. . . . . . . . . . \- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ) - - - - - - - - - - - - 29.60 l. . . . . . . . . . . .
The tS and robberies......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84. 51 121.46 44.00 l. . . . . . . . . . . . 77. 49
Trust. Cases-----------..................... 6,681.63 6,568.65 8,354.45 6,653.95 6,003. 21
Miscellaneous cases......................... 1,842.63 919. 14 1,228.80 1,657,96 2,159.92
Expenditures common to all cases. ........ 2,689.83 3,479.01 3,832. 37 3,764. 73 4,151.48
Applicants and employees. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 66.44 116.90 110.88 77. 41 114.66
White-slave cases............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,626.47 7,704. 59 8,267.20 9,733.47 10, 196.85
Leave of absence..... . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1,535.80 3,138.73 3,832.37 . 712. 15 548. 49
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Total.------------------------------- 35,195.15 38,078.91 38,856.86 40,330.76
VIOLATIONS OF WHITE-SLAVE ACT.
The CHAIRMAN. What is bieng done with reference to the white-
slave act .
Mr. BIELASKI. The only changes since last year have been to extend
the white-slave officer system through the Western States and in
Some parts of the country where they have not been. The total
number so appointed, though, has only been 37. About the first of
last year we abolished about 200 of those offices.
About the first of
this fiscal year we changed the system from the fee system to the
Salary system.
Mr. GILLETT. Are they detectives 7
Mr. BIELASKI. The local white-slave officers are
men stationed in
a particular town, who make investigations of the white-slave, cases
when called upon, and receive complaints and keep in general touch
with the situation, but do not devote their entire time to the Gov-
It is a system
whereby we get local information and make local investigations at
less cost than it would cost with the regular, special agents. The
system has also been changed to this extent: While they are still
called local white-slave officers, we use them in connection with any
investigation where it is a simple inquiry, and we do not think it
necessary to send a regular special agent, and where we can Save
money in that way. We get the added work from them without
ernment.
any added expense.
The salary is about $15 a month, usually.
They are paid in addition to their monthly
compensation $2.50 a day for every day they devote completely to
the work.
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The CHAIRMAN. Do you know whether the work has succeeded to
any extent in stopping the interstate traffic in women?
Mr. BIELASKI. I think so. Of course, that is a statement that
would be hard to establish in detail, but we believe that the violations
of the white-slave traffic act are decreasing. The volume of com-
plaints is not as large as it was.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you mean the business of selling women or
getting them or just the isolated cases where complaints come in §
Mr. BIELASKI. I mean both, to this extent: We get less of each.
kind, but the proportion of complaints involving commercialism—
that is, the trading in women for profit—are much less now than they
used to be. We get more tº: of what are sometimes called
sº cases in proportion to our volume of complaints now than
we did before, and that ratio has been and is continually increasing.
I have here or can furnish you a statement of the first 550 cases, and
of those cases less than 70, I think, did not involve the actual profit
to the men who did the transporting; that is, the violation by pimps
and procurers are less now than they have ever been.
Mr. MoMDELL. You say there were only 70 out of five hundred-
odd cases that had to do with commercialized vice' -
Mr. BIELASKI. That did not have to do with commercialized vice,
but I say now the percentage is increasing. When we first started
out we devoted our attention practically entirely to cases involving
commercialized vice. We continued that for quite a time. The
courts, however, have construed the white-slave traffic act to be about
as broad as the literal language is, which includes the transportation
of a woman for any other immoral purpose, and restricted it only to
some form of sexual immorality. -
Mr. MONDELL. It is not clear in my mind yet as to what was the
nature of the 70 cases. -
Mr. BIELASKI. The 70 cases were cases in which there was no
commercial element. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Escapade cases, they call them.
Mr. MONDELL. And the balance of the 550 were cases where there
was a commercial element involved 2. -
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes. Those cases are not complete. We had 901
convictions up to the 1st of July this year, and I am having prepared,
as fast as the clerks can prepare it and keep up with the current work,
a statement of the classes of cases, so we can show at any time
exactly what sort of cases we have been handling. In those first 70
cases they were all something more than escapade cases. They were
hard cases, the transportation of a very young girl or an innocent girl
or the inducing of a woman to go from one State to another under
promise of marriage. We had hardly any what might be called
escapade cases.
EXPERT BANK ACCOUNTANTS.
The CHAIRMAN. You employ expert bank accountants'
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. For what purpose are they employed .
Mr. BIELASKI. The primary purpose of their employment was the
investigation of criminal violations of the national banking act.
Prior to their employment the department was taking over on tem-
764 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
porary assignment from the Treasury Department, at compensations
of $20 and $25 a day, their bank examiners. They helped the dis-
trict attorneys prepare the cases from the records of the banks. We
thought it would be much more economical—and so it has proved—
to employ a regular force of accountants at stated salaries. The
highest salary is $3,000 a year, and you can see how they range from
$2,750 down to $1,800. Those men, by reason of devoting their
entire time to the preparation of criminal cases for trial, prepare the
cases in much less time than the bank examiners, whose primary
duties are not concerned with violations of the law, but with the
conduct of the banking business. We think they are much more
efficient in the work. In addition, these men are usually employed
in the large postal-fraud cases, where there may be two or three
million dollars involved in schemes to defraud, in tracing what has
become of the money, and testifying as expert witnesses. Quite a
large percentage of the time of these men is used on cases of that
kind, and also in involved bankruptcy cases. We have used them
in the Court of Claims work. Where there was a question about the
construction of a battleship and the claim made by the plaintiff com-
pany that it was entitled to certain moneys from the United States,
we have made examinations of the books of the company, and our
experts have testified as witnesses for the Government. -
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PER DIEM IN LIEU OF SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask that the per diem in lieu of subsistence
be changed from $4 to $5?
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir. That is for the reason that Congress has
fixed the limit of $5 for actual expenses and a per diem of $4. We
find that unless a man is to contribute to the Government a consid—
erable part of his salary for his expenses he can not live under certain
conditions in the larger cities for $4 a day. At $5 he can not live
either, because some days his expenses will be over $5 and some
days under—when they are over $5 he loses, and when they are
under $5 the Government gains, and no man can travel in and out
of the large cities without losing money. We think that a per diem
of $5 in some cases—I do not mean by this provision that $5 would
be a general per diem, our regular per diem is $4 and less; we have
Some men who get slightly less —this $5 limit would not be the regular
per diem, but would be used only in some exceptional cases, I suppose
not to cover over a half a dozen cases at most. At the present time
I know from experience that any trip is costly personally, and while
if you got $5 each day you would do fairly well in evening up, on the
present system you can not possibly come out even. You would not
come out even, probably, on a $5 per diem, considering the usual
and added personal expense to which you are put. That is not
contemplated. This is only contemplated to reimburse for the actual
expenses of subsistence which you incur.
I should like the committee to give careful consideration, if it
will, to this question of per diems, because it is really a hardshi
on the men, which I do not think your committee intended. While
we do not object to the $5 limit as a reasonable limit, where you have
to apply it every day it does work a hardship. For instance, a man
travels all day on a train and has three . on the train and then
goes to a hotel, his expenses are certain to be over $5.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 765
CLAIMS OF WRISLEY BROWN, D. C. STUTLER, AND J. F. FISHMAN.
In this connection I should like, if the committee is willing, to sub-
mit one or two claims which, if possible, I should like to have author-
ized paid from the present (1915) year's appropriation. Mr. Wrisley
Brown was in Europe on the Metcalf bank case and in connection
with the Eastman Kodak Trust case at the time this $5 provision
was passed. War broke out while he was in Paris and he lost all his
ersonal belongings and a lot of other things, which are not included
in this claim. When he went abroad he was to be allowed his actual
expenses, subject to the approval of the head of the department. He
necessarily incurred some expenses above $5 after the 1st of July
under those circumstances. I think his account is about $50 or $60.
I think it should be paid. The money is available from this year's
appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is it . •
Mr. BIELASKI. About $60. In addition, there were some men in
Alaska who have some small claims, not over $40 or $50. You can
not possibly live in parts of Alaska on $5 a day. One of these is
for $41.50 and the other one for $55,80.
WRISLEY BROWN, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR AND Assista NT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
Excess subsistence:
l
July 2----------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l. 63
July 3---------------------------------------------------------- 1. 62
July 4---------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3. 55
July 5---------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 63
July 6----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 63
July 7------------------ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l. 63
July 8----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 62
July 9------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.82
July 10-----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 63
July 13-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
July 17-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.45
July 18-------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l. 45
July 19----------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2. 08
July 22---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2. 50
July 23-----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
July 24--------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
July 26-----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
July 26--------------------------------------------------------- l. 35
July 27----------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 15
July 29--------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2, 71
July 30-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.43
July 31. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2.91.
Aug. 1.-------------------------------------------------------- 3. 11 .
Aug. 2.---------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _- - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . . . . 4. 51
Aug. 3-------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4. 71
Aug. 21. . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . 25
Total.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $55, 80
- DELMAs C. STUTLER, EXAMINER.
Excess subsistence:
July 3.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0. 10
July 4------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
July 5------------ - - - - - - - -------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - . 40
July 6------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . 20
July 7---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - . 50 .
July 8------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
July 9---------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 00
July 10-----..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... 50
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Excess subsistence—Continued.
July 25---------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2.50
July 26--------------------------------------------------------- 2. 25
July 27--------------------------------------------------------- 1. 00
July 28--------------------------------------------------------- 1. 75
July 29----------.*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1. 00
July 30--------------------------------------------------------- 1. 25
July 31--------------------------------------------------------- 2.25
Aug. 1.--------------------------------------------------------- 1. 00
Aug. 2.-------------------------------------------------------- 25
Aug. 4.--------------------------------------------------------- 25
Aug. 11-------------------------------------------------------- 75
Aug. 14-------------------------------------------------------- 25
Aug. 31-------------------------------------------------------- 4. 75
Sept. 5--------------------------------------------------------- 25
Sept. 11-------------------------------------------------------- 50
Total.--------------------------------------------------------------
uly 9---------------------------------------------------------- $0. 45
July 10--------------------------------------------------------- . 35
July 11--------------------------------------------------------- 20
July 12--------------------------------------------------------- 30
July 14--------------------------------------------------------- 6. 15
July 16--------------------------------------------------------- 85
July 17--------------------------------------------------------- 55
July 18--------------------------------------------------------- 45
July 19.-------------------------------------------------------- 70
July 23--------------------------------------------------------- 25
July 25--------------------------------------------------------- 05
Aug. 2.-------------------------------------------------------- 1.45
Aug. 5--------------------------------------------------------- 90
Aug. 6--------------------------------------------------------- 2. 30
Aug. 14-------------------------------------------------------- 15
Aug. 15.------------------------------------------------------- 25
Aug. 16-------------------------------------------------------- 80
Aug. 17-------------------------------------------------------- 40
Aug. 18-------------------------------------------------------- 05
Aug. 19.------------------------------------------------------- 3.45
Aug. 20-------------------------------------------------------- 20
Aug. 21-------------------------------------------------------- 45
Aug. 23-------------------------------------------------------- 10
Aug. 24-------------------------------------------------------- 35
Aug. 26.------------------------------------------------------- 3.35
Aug. 27----------------- *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30
Aug. 29.------------------------------------------------------- 1. 25
Aug. 31-------------------------------------------------------- 60
July 5---------------------------------------------------------- 2.45
July 10--------------------------------------------------------- 2. 00
July 16--------------------------------------------------------- 1. 65
Sept. 2.--------------------------------------------------------- 25
Sept. 4--------------------------------------------------------- O5
Sept. 6--------------------------------------------------------- 35
Sept. 8--------------------------------------------------------- 05
Sept. 9--------------------------------------------------------- 10
Sept. 10-------------------------------------------------------- 05
Sept. 12-------------------------------------------------------- 45
Sept. 14-------------------------------------------------------- 05
Sept. 25-------------------------------------------------------- 05
Sept. 26-------------------------------------------------------- 05
Sept. 27-------------------------------------------------------- 05
Sept. 28 (including month's laundry charge). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7, 25
Total.-------------------------------------------------------------
Grand total.-------------------------------------------------------
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 767
SALARIES.
Mr. MONDELL. Does the pay of the employees scheduled on page
463 cover this entire expenditure of $314,000 : -
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, Sir; that includes all the salaries.
Mr. MonTELL. Are there persons employed or paid in any wa
out of this $314,000 other than those generally specified in this
schedule? .
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes; sir; to this extent, an occasional informant or
temporary, employee whom we may pick up in connection with a
particular investigation. * -
Mr. MONDELL. Do you employ attorneys out of this appropriation?
Mr. BIELASKI. At no time. This is purely used for investigating
purposes, and this list constitutes the bulk of the salaries, and every-
thing that can be foreseen I put in. As to the other little amounts,
Sometimes we have to have an interpreter for a day or two, or a
special informant, or something of that kind. There are certain
employees under my division who are appropriated for in the legis-
lative bill. They are the examiners.
Mr. MoRDELL. I understand that.
Mr. BIELASKI. There are 11 of them. . -
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement of your
employees carried in the legislative bill. -
Mr. BIELASKI. Yes, sir.
Two examiners, $2,500 per annum; four examiners, $2,250 per annum; two exami-
ners, $2,000 per annum; three examiners, $1,800 per annum.
INSPECTION OF PRISONs AND PRISONERS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Inspection of prisons and
prisoners,” and the appropriation is $10,000, and your estimate is
$10,000? . - .
Mr. McGLASSON, Yes, sir. . . .
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to insert “including not more
than $2,500 for employee or employees at Washington, D. C., for
expenses of officers of the Department of Justice attending sessions
of the American Prison Association and the Wardens' Association
when authorized to do so by the Attorney General.” What is the
reason for this proposed modification? - -
Mr. McGLASSON. I have prepared a statement, with the approval
of the superintendent of prisons, who is out of Washington now,
and I º insert it in the record, if you wish. It covers both of
those items. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Very well. *
(The statement referred to by Mr. McGlasson follows:)
INSPECTION OF PRISONS AND PRISONERS.
Language is added to authorize expenses of attendance upon sessions of Wardens'
Association and Prison Congress. Section 8 of the District of Columbia appropriation
bill, approved June 26, 1912, prohibits such expenses. In 1914, for the first time in
many years, no officer of the Federal prison system attended these meetings. Con-
gress has recognized with an appropriation of $20,000 the International Prison Asso-
ciation, with which the American Prison Association is allied, yet Federal prison
officials can not attend the meetings except at their own expense. The benefits
derived from attendance on these meetings are benefits to the Government, not to
768 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
the individual attending, except in so far as his attendance enables him the better
to perform his duties. •
Language is added authorizing $2,500 of the appropriation to be used for employee
at Washington. It is proposed to use this sum for an assistant superintendent of
FISODS.
p The superintendent of prisons has charge of all prison matters, the construction of
rison buildings, and the paroling of prisoners. At present he has no assistant and
ut one inspector of prisons. Until recently there was an assistant and two inspectors.
On September 1, 1914, the assistant, who was a field employee on parol matters and
aid from lump appropriations under the parol law, resignéd and his place is unfilled.
n April, 1914, as an experiment, one inspector was discontinued.
The field work has proved entirely too much for one inspector. These field duties
consist of personal examination into all matters relating to prisoners in Some 60 State
prisons, reformatories, etc., upward of a thousand county jails and similar institutions
throughout the country, as well as some work in the Federal prisons, . The inspector
must see that prisoners are properly and humanely fed, housed, clad, etc.; investi-
gate complaints of improper treatment and illegal employment of prisoners, etc.; see
that false or improper charges are not made by jailers, wardens, and others; arrange
contracts for the rates, fees, and other charges to be paid by the Government for its
prisoners and attend to demands for increased rates; and arrange for medical, hos-
pital, and similar expenses. - -
In the careful scrutinizing of rates and conditions an inspector can Save the Gov-
ernment the amount of his salary over and over again. These matters can not be
handled by correspondence—they require an agent on the ground. As an example,
the appropriation “Support of prisoners” was saved $25,000 annually by instituting
a different and better system of feeding prisóhers in one district, while in another
district $13,000 annually was saved by avoiding the paying of 50 per cent increased
rates authorized by a new State law. This was done by an inspector on the ground,
after the department had failed by correspondence to accomplish anything. As a
further example I call attention to the fact that while the number of prisoners in
jails increased from a daily average of 1,616 for the fiscal year 1913 to 1,847 for 1914
(the number of days' subsistence increasing from 589,600 to 674,260), the expenses
increased only from $485,000 to $512,000 and the daily per capita was reduced from
82 cents to 76 cents. This economy may be attributed almost altogether to the work
of the agents in the field. I am convinced there will be some increase in the per
capita rate for the current year, and still further increase in 1916, if we attempt longer
to handle the work with a single inspector.
In preference to appointing another inspector assigned solely to field duty, which
can be done without the suggested language, it is preferred to have an assistant super-
intendent at the same salary who would do the work of an inspector, and in addition
would be available to sit in parole hearings and also to run the office of the superin-
tendent of prisons in the absences of the latter from Washington on parole and other
prison matters. - - - -
The superintendent now averages about four months' absence from Washington
yearly. Under the parole law he is required to visit numerous institutions several
times each year. Naturally at times the general work of his office suffers because
of his absence; as, for example, during these committee hearings. An assistant could
relieve him of much of this field work, especially at those times when it is advisable
for the superintendent to remain in Washington. ‘.
With the appointment of the assistant superintendent there could lapse one $1,800
clerkship now assigned to the office of the superintendent of prisons and the duties
of that position would be absorbed to a large extent by the assistant. -
The net result of this arrangement would be a saving of one clerkship and no increase
in the lump appropriation nor in the expenditures under the lump appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you ask to drop out the words “and
parole” .
Mr. M'CGLAssoN. I think that was inserted by mistake several
years ago when we attempted to combine the parole appropriation
with the inspection appropriation. I believe the committee refused to
allow the combining of the expenses, but the word “parole” was left
in the title of the appropriation. There is no º expense paid
out of this appropriation.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 769
"I'lk A V Ei,IN (; A NID MISC ELLAN E O US HXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Traveling and miscellaneous
expenses,” and the appropriation is $7,500 and your estimate is
$7,500. What is this appropriation used for "
Mir. iſ ARRIS. This appropriation is used to pay the traveling
expenses of the Attorney General, the assistant attorneys general and
statutory employees of the department who are not attached to any
more specific appropriation, and for the purpose of making advances
for traveling expenses. * gº
The CuAl RMAN. What compensation do you pay out of this appro-
priation ?
Air. HARRIs. None, except in an emergency that can not otherwise
be met. t
The CHAIRMAN. I do not think it is intended to cover such items.
What compensation has been paid out of this appropriation ?
Mr. HARRIs. Last year, in 1913 or 1914, there was one item of $75
paid out of it. They wanted a memorandum made relative to cases
in the Court of Claims which had been pending a long number of
years, and as they did not have a clerk or employee who could do
that work they hired a man and paid him $75.
The CHAIRMAN. Was it not $475?
Mr. HARRIs. It was $75, I think. As to the rest I would have to
furnish an additional statement.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put such a statement in the record.
Mr. HARRIs. The amount expended during 1914%
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
(The statement referred to follows:)
Harry M. Stull------ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $75
A. J. McKelway-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 300
Dr. Benj. R. Logie--- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100
NoTE.—Mr. Stull was employed to make a report as to old cases pending in the Court
of Claims. He was the only person available, with knowledge of such cases and the
files of said court, who could perform the service promptly, and in whose report
reliance could be placed. As a result of this report a large number of cases which had
been pending in this court for a number of years were dismissed. This matter was
submitted to the Comptroller of the Treasury and he decided that this was the only
available appropriation.
Mr. McKelway is an expert on prisons and penitentiaries. He was employed by the
Attorney General to make a confidential investigation of one of the Federal peni-
tentiaries to secure certain confidential information. This appropriation was the only
one available from which compensation could be paid to him. .
Dr. Logie was employed to make an examination as to the mental condition of Tony
Milano, who was then under sentence of death by the courts of the District of Columbia.
An application for pardon or commutation of sentence was made on the ground that
he was insane, and said examination was made for the purpose of determining that
fact. This matter was submitted to the comptroller before payment, who decided
that this appropriation was the only one available from which Dr. Logie could be paid.
EN l'ORCEM ENT OF ANTITRUST LAWS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Enforcement of antitrust law "
What has been dono during the past year'.
72785–15—49
770 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
PROSECUTIONS INSTITUTED, concLUDED, or PENDING.
Mr. ToDD. Mr. Chairman, I have here, in the Attorney General’s
annual report, a full statement of the work done in connection with
the enforcement of the antitrust laws during the past fiscal year.
Do you desire me to go over the entire ground 7
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir; we should like to have you do that.
Mr. TODD. There are pending at the present time 47 cases under
that act, 32 being civil proceedings and 15 criminal proceedings. In
the last fiscal year 18 cases have been instituted, 7 civil and 11 crim-
inal, of which 5 have been finally determined – 3 civil and 2 criminal.
The more important cases which were brought to a conclusion in the
last fiscal year were these: - i * *
First, the New Haven case. That, as you probably know, was a
º to dissolve the monopoly of transportation facilities in
ew England which had been acquired by the New York, New Haven
& Hartford Railroad Co. A final decree in that case was entered a
few months ago. The criminal aspects of the case were then pre-
sented to a grand jury, which returned indictments. A number of
pleas in abatement and pleas in bar were entered by the defendants,
most of which have been overruled. Little remains to be done except
to try the case. Just when it will come to trial depends upon the
state of the judicial business in the southern district of New York.
The second of the more important cases brought to a conclusion
in the last fiscal year was that against the American Telephone &
Telegraph Co. for alleged monopolization of telephone facilities in
and between certain States in the Northwest–Washington, Oregon,
Montana, and ſqaho, as I recall. A decree adjuding the acquisitions
by the American Telephone Co. in pursuance of that combination to
be unlawful was entered, and the company was required to surrender
to entirely independent interests certain properties which it ac-
quired in pursuance of the alleged combination.
A third case brought to a conclusion was that of the United States
against the American Thread Co. In that case it was charged that
the American Thread Co., an American corporation, and the J. P.
Coats Co. (Ltd.), an Friglish corporation doing business, in this
country, had entered into a combination to suppress competition be-
tween themselves and to suppress competition against them by inde-
pendents. A degree adjudging the combination to be unlawful and
ºns its further execution was entered into in the district of New
€I’SCW. -
ºth. The United States v. The National Wholesale Jewelers'
Association and many jewelers who were members of the association.
That was a combination to prevent manufacturers of jewelry from
selling directly to the retailers. A decree adjudging it unlawful and
enjoining its operation was entered in January, 1914, in the Southern
district of New York.
Fifth. The case of the Lumber Dealers' Association. That was
finally decided by the Supreme Court of the United States in June
last. That was a combination of retail dealers in lumber to prevent
wholesalers and manufacturers from selling directly to consumers.
The Supreme Court in that case adjudged that such a combination
was in restraint of trade and enjoined it.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 771
Sixth. The Butter and Egg cases. There were two of these cases;
one was against the Elgin Board of Trade and the other against the
Chicago Butter and Egg Board, both in the northern district of Illi-
nois. The charge was that these boards of trade were made the in-
strument for fixing arbitrarily the price of butter in those localities
and indirectly throughout a much larger area. Decrees adjudging
the combinations unlawful and enjoining their execution were en-
tered on April 21, 1914, in the Elgin Board of Trade case, and on
October 12, 1914, in the Chicago Butter and Egg case.
Seventh. The case of the United States v. The American Wringer
Co. This was an indictment in the western district of Pennsylvania
against the American Wringer Co. and another large manufacturer of
clothes wringers to fix prices, the two together being in control of the
trade. The defendants pleaded nolo contendre and on November 13,
1914, fines aggregating $6,000 were imposed upon them.
Eighth. The so-called Cotton Corner case, in the southern district
of New York, was finally wound up by the defendants who had not
already pleaded nolo contendre entering such pleas; whereupon fines
aggregating $18,000 were imposed. - -
There are several remaining cases of minor consequence brought to
conclusion in the last fiscal year. I will simply give the titles of those
C81.SGS : -
The Alaska. Transportation cases, which were in the first divisio
of Alaska; the cise against the electrical workers' uniors, in the
northern district of Łllinois; two cases against the Consolidated
Rendering Co., in the district of Massachusetts; indictments against
the American Naval Stores Co., in the southern district of Georgia;
and indictments against the United Mine Workers of America, in the
district of West Virginia. - e
In the Naval Stores case the jury returned a verdict of not guilty,
and the indictments in West Virginia agiirst the United Mine Workers
of America were nol-prossed, the district attorney there being of the
opinion that they were not well founded either in law or in fect.
That covers the cases which were finally disposed of during the last
€8,T. " * -
y The following is a list of new cases which were instituted during the
last fiscal year: -
The United States v. The Southern Pacific Co. and the Central
Pacific Railroad Co. This case involves the question whether the
control of the Central Pacific Railway Co. by the southern Pacific Co.
constitutes a combination in restraint of trade. It is an outgrowth
really of the ci se ag, irst the Union Pacific Co. It is pending in the
district of Utah. The testimony on behalf of the Government has
ºncluded and the defendants are now taking testimony on their
ehalf. -
The United States v. The Lehigh Valley Railroad Co. This case
was brought in the southern district of New York. Briefly stated,
it presented the question whether it was an attempt to monopolize
for a railroad company to acquire control in the trade of an article
produced along its lines, acting through the instrumentality of a
separate company to which it gave preferences and advantages of
one sort or another, principally in this regard, that it supplied the
coal company—it was a coal company in this case—with the capital
with which to carry on its business without charge.
772 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The United States v. Knauer and others, in the southern district of
Iowa. This was one of a series of cases instituted in different sections
of the United States to break up an alleged combination of dealers
in plumbing supplies, the object of the combination being to prevent
manufacturers of plumbing supplies and jobbers of plumbing supplies
from selling to anyone except members of the combination. The
other two cases of that series are entitled The United States v. Mc-
Coach and others, in the western district of Pennsylvania, and the
United States v. Irving and others, in the district of Utah.
The United States v. Rockefeller and others. That is an indict-
ment against certain officers and directors of the New Haven Rail-
road Co., charging a monopolization of the transportation facilities
of New England. - -
The United States v. The Western Cantaloupe Exchange. This is
an indictment against a combination of dealers in cantaloupes, the
object of the combination being, according to the allegations of the
indictment, to control the production of cantaloupes in the Imperial
Valley of California and to regulate and control the markets to which
they should be shipped.
The United States v. Collins and others. This is an indictment
pending in the District of Columbia against an alleged combination
of commission merchants who are charged with having fixed in con-
cert the prices paid by them for produce in the District of Columbia.
The United States v. Booth Fisheries Co. and others. This is an
indictment in the district of Washington, charging the Booth Fish-
eries Co. and others with having combined to control the market in
certain kinds of fish. &
I have now gone over the cases which were brought to a conclusion
in the last year and the new cases which were instituted in the last
€8,I’.
y I will also run over briefly the cases which were instituted, prior to
the beginning of the last fiscal year, and which are still pending, in
which progress has been made.
The United States v. Great Lakcs Towing Co. and others, in the
northern district of Ohio. The court held that the Great Lakes
Towing Co. constituted a combination in restraint of trade, but it
has not yet entered a final decree, the question being whether the
decree shall dissolve the combination or whether it shall merely
enjoin the combination from continuing to use the methods by which
it acquired its dominant position in this commerce.
The United States v. The American Sugar Refining Co. and others.
The testimony has practically been completed, and the argument
will be heard at any early day.
The United States v. The Hamburg-American Line and others.
Mr. MoMDELL. What is the point at issue in that case ?
Mr. ToDD. I took it for granted that the issues in the case against
the American Sugar Refining Co. are well known by the committee.
The point at issue in the Hamburg-American case—there were a
number of points, but the main point was whether trans-Atlantic
steamship companies bringing steerage passengers to this country could
combine and pool their earnings. The district court held that such
a combination was not in violation of the antitrust act. The Gov-
ernment has appealed from the decision. -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 773
There are two other cases involving combinations of steamship
companies still pending in the district court for the southern district
of New York, entitled, respºctively, United States v. The American-
Asiatic Steamship Co. and others, and the United States v. The Prince
Line and others. In those cases the main question is whether the
pooling of freight traffic by ocean steamship lines is in violation of
the antitrust act. The last two cases have not yet been decided by
the courts. & + -
Also the following cases: -
United States v. William C. Geer, president Albia Box & Paper Co., et al.
United States v. Isaac Whiting et al. - r
United States v. Isaac Whiting et al. * * . ,
United States v. Edward E. Hartwick et al. . . * *
United States v. The Colorado & Wyoming Lumber Dealers’ Association and the
Lumber Secretaries’ Bureau of Information.
|United States v. Willard G. Hollis et al. - N
|United States v. United Shoe Machinery Co. et al. -
United States v. S. W. Winslow et al. * * * -
United States v. United Shoe Machinery Có. of New Jersey et al.
United States v. United States Steel Corporation et al.
United States v. John H. Patterson et al. (Cash Register—Criminal.)
United States v. National Cash Register Co. et al. . . .
United States v. The Keystone Watch Case Co. et al.
United States v. International Harvester Co. et al. * , - . . . . . .-
United States v. Associated Billposters and Distributers of the United States and
Canada et al. - - - . . i -
United States v. Motion Picture Patents Co. et al.
|United States v. The Master Horseshoers’ National Protective Association of America
et al. :
United States v. Charles S. Mellen, Edson J. Chamberlin, and Alfred W. Smithers.
United States v. Kellogg Toasted Corn Flake Co. et al.
United States v. Board of Trade of the city of Chicago et al.
United States v. The Cleveland Stone Co. et al.
United States v. The Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad Co. and the Dela-
ware, Lackawanna & Western Coal Co. d
United States v. Corn Products Refining Co. et al.
United States v. Eastman Kodak Co. et al.
United States v. The Quaker Oats Co. et al.
|United States v. Reading Co. et al.
|United States v. American Can Co. et al.

EMPLOYEES IN WASHINGTON.
The CHAIRMAN. What employees are here in Washington Ž
Mr. ToDD. There are employed under this appropriation in Wash-
ington at the present time, X F. Myers, law clerk, salary $2,000;
Roger Shale, clerk and stenographer, $2,000; Merriam E. Tucker,
stenographer, $1,200; Marie E. Fisher, temporary stenographer, $900,
and a second temporary stenographer, whose name I can not recall
for the moment, $900. She has just succeeded another. These
temporary stenographers we are only permitted by the Civil Service
Commission to employ for six months at a time. John G. Fagin,
messenger, $840, and not at present, but for a time; H. La Rue Brown,
attorney, $5,000 a year. That completes the list of those employed
in Washington. -
The CHAIRMAN. You do not use the entire $15,000?
Mr. ToDD. We do not have a permanent roll of $15,000 because we
constantly have to employ stenographers from time to time as the
lawyers come to Washington from the field.
774 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
ATTORNEYS.
The CHAIRMAN. You stated last year that the policy was being
initiated of employing men at yearly salaries rather than by the case.
Has that practice been continued'
... Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a statement which shows the employ-
ments under this appropriation ?
Mr. TODD. Yes, sir. There ſexhibiting] is a statement showing
all the persons who were employed. The employment of three on
this list has practically ended—the three being E. E. Baldwin, E. P.
Grosvenor, and H. C. Smythe.
Mr. MoRDELL. Of what date is this statement 7
Mr. TODD. That is of the present time. *
Mr. MoRDELL. The present date?
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What compensation has been paid to attorneys
in § cases under this appropriation?
. TODD. I have here a statement [exhibiting] showing payments
to all persons out of this appropriation in the fiscal year which ended
June 30 last, and paid up to December 15 out of the appropriation
for the current fiscal year:
i.
Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys, temporary examiners,
accountants, and clerks in special cases from the appropriation enforcement of antitrust laws, etc., 1915, for the period from July 1, 1914, to Dec. 15, 1914.
e?
| |
| | Amounts paid. .
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary. ,
* Sation. penses. º
Adkins, Jesso C. . . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. American Can Co.; United States $5,000 per annum... . . . . . $2,083.33 $615. 14 || $2,698.47
€Iſa.I. v. Corn Products Refining Co.
Anderson, J. Robert . . . . . . . . . . . . O - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Antitrust cases and investigations. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- $3,000 per annum... - - - - - 125.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 125.00
Atkinson, Ernest. . . . . . . . . . Clerk, New York, Southern.... . . . . . . . . United States v. American Sugar Refining Co. . . . . $1,200 per annum --- - - - - - 500.00 - - - - - - - - - - 500.00
Batts, R. L. --------------- Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. New York, New Haven & Hart- || To be determined. . . . . . . 1,875.00 55.65 | 1,930.65
eral. ford Railroad Co.
Block, Michael O. . . . . . . . . . Junior accountant... -------------...-- United States v. American Can Co. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $10 per day-------------- 95.00 - - - - - - - - - - 95.00
Brown, H. La Rue . . . . . . . . Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- Minneapolis Chamber of Commerce case; United $5,000 per annum. ------. 1,427.77 58.50 | 1,486. 27
€Tal. Gas Improvement Co. case.
Brown, Susie M-- - - - - - - - - - - Clerk, Illinois, northern. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Antitrust cases------------------------------------ $100 per month...... ---- 500.00 |- - - - - - - - - - 500.00
Chantland, William T. . . . . Spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. American Can Co... . . . . . . . . . . . . . $4,500 per annum........ 1,875.00 640.98 2,515.98
CI2, I. -
Clark, Lincoln R.- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . -------------------------- Investigation American Smelting & Refining Co. - $2,500 per annum--------| 1,041.66 |- - - - - - - - - - 1,041.66
Colton, Henry E. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Uº. States v. United States Steel Corporation $5,000 per annum........| 2,083.33 96.66 2, 179.99
€U al. -
Connolly, Eugene F. . . . . . . . Clerk to Mark Hyman. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |United States v. Eastman Kodak Co. et al. . . . . . . . $100 per month... . . . . . . . 413. 33 |---------- 413. 33
Cox, J. W.----------------- Spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen- || United Gas Improvement Co. case . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5,000 per annum........ 347. 22 |- - - - - - - - - - 347. 22
€T3.1.
Crow, Edward C. - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - United States v. Terminal Railroad Association. :- $2,500 in all............. 1,750.00 ---------- 1,750.00
Davies, Morgan L. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States attor- United States v. Quaker, Oats Co. et al.; United $4,000 in all............. 1,666.66 ---------- 1,666.66
ney, Illinois, northern. States v. Associated Bill Posters et al., and other
C2S6S.
Dickinson, J. M. . . . . . . . . . . . sº Assistant to the Attorney | United States v. United States Steel Corporation. To be determined....... 7,500.00 42.50 | 7,542. 50
€119 Fal. 4.
Blackburn, Esterline. . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Special cases in antitrust.... -------...-........... Expenses Only----------|----------. 73.50 73.50
Gann, E. E. ---------------|----. do-------------------------------- United States v. Southern Pacific Co. et al. . . . . . . . $360 per month. . . . . . . . . . 1,800.00 895.31 || 2,695.31
Gordon, Thurlow M. . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .------. United States v. Lehigh Valley R. R. Co. et al.... $3,600 per annum... . . . . .] 1,500.00 198.26 1,698.26
Gregory, T. W. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tº:sºv. New York, New Haven & Bart- || To be determined. . . . . . . 2,487.82 153.95 || 2,641.77
Or . UO.
Grosvenor, Edwin P. . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. International Harvester Co. cases, ſon account. . . . . . . . . . . . . } 2,083. 33 2,083. 33
and Motion Picture Patents Co. case. $5,000 per annum.... . . . . y vºv - ºx.” - - - - - - - - - - 3 vs.--> *
Guiler, Henry A. . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States attor- United States v. Hamburg-American Line, and $4,000 per annum........ 1,666.66 |.......... 1,666.66
ney, New York, southern. Other cases.
Hacker, Edward. . . . . . . . . . . Special examiner... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . United States v. American Can Co.; Motion Pic- Fees. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,410. 75 832.39 3,243. 14
tures Patents Co. Case.
Hanna, Frank R. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. Southern Pacific Co. et al... . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ 1,389.77 79.70 | 1,469.47
Hanson, Charles P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do----- --------------------------- United States v. Lehigh Valley R- R. Co. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------------ 1,709. 10 |.......... 1,709. 10
Harris, Fiorence Č. . . . . . . . . Clerk, Illinois, northern. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Antitrust cases . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $100 per month.......... 500.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 500.00
3
$º
Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys, temporary examiners,
accountants, and clerks in special cases from the
1914—Continued.
appropriation enforcement of antitrust laws, etc., 1915, for the period from July 1, 1914, to Dec. 15,
Amounts paid.
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary. -
Compen- Ex- Total
Sation. penses. OU8l.
Hitchcock, Samuel M...... Special examiner. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . United States v. Prince Line et al. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $15 per day... . . . . . . . ... $30.00 . . . . . . . . . . $30.00
Hottenstein, Marcus S. . . . . sº Assistant to the Attorney | Antitrust cases and investigations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $3,000 per annum. . . . . . . . 1,250.00 |. . . . . . . . . . 1,250.00
€Ileſal. *
Hyman, Mark.............!----- do--------------------------------- United States v. Eastman Kodak Co.; United $4,000 per annum... . . . . . 1,666.66 |. . . . . . . . . . 1,666.66
States v. National Fire proofing Co. . .
Knapp, James R. . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States Attor- | United States v. American Sugar Refining Co. . . . $5,000 per annum... . . . . . 2,083.33 |.......... 2,083.33
ney New York, southern. e - • * g
Lewis, R. Colton. . . . . . . . . . . sº sistant to the Attorney | Antitrust cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $3,000 per annum... . . . . . 900.00 || $131.93 | 1,031.93
€Ilerai.
Lindsley, Van Sinderen. . . . . . . . . do--------------------------------- United States v. American Can Co.; United States $300 per month. . . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 113.79 | 1,613.79
v. Corn Products Refining Co. - -
Lott, John L--------------- -----do--------------------------------- United States v. John H. Patterson, et al.........] $3,500 per annum... . . . . . 1,458.33 455.50 | 1,913.83
Machen, Arthur W., jr-....|..... do--------------------------------- United States v. Lehigh Valley Railroad Co., et al...] $500 per month.......... 1,000.00 173.78 1,173.78
McClennen, făward F.I...]... do--------------------------------. United States v. Southern Pacific Co., et al.; To be determined. . . . . . . 3,000.00 667. 69 3,667.69
|United States v. Central Pacific, et al.
McGovern, Eugene... . . . . . . Stenographer... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . º: ºw York, New Haven & Hart- $1,500 per annum........ 625.00 412.53 1,037.53
OTO1 R.8 llì'OaCl UO.
Mitchell, Henry S. . . . . . . . . . Sº,pºssistant to the Attorney Antitrust cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $3,600 per annum........] 1,500.00 100.00 1,600.00
eneral. -
Montgomery, Stanley D.---|-----do... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . United States v. Prince Line, et al.; United States $3,000 per annum... . . . . . 1,250.00 . . . . . . . . . . 1,250.00
v. American Asiatic Steamship Line, et al.
Morrison, Charles B.-------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - United States v. Standard Oil Co., et ai........... To be determined. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39.00 39.00
Norfleet, R. E., jr. . . . . . . . . . Clerk to Mr. Adkins. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . United States v. American Can Co.; United States $100 per month.......... 400.00 725.43 1,125.43
v. Corn Products Refining Co. - - - - • * *
Orr, James W. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sº, sistant to the Attorney United States v. Southern Pacific Railway Co..... $650 per month. . . . . . . . . 3,250.00 352.99 3,602.99
eneral. - - • * - -
Olson, Fred W. . . . . . . . . . . . . Stenographer to Mr. Colton. . . . . . . . . . . tº: States v. United States Steel Corporation, $130 per month. . . . . . . . . 325.00 164.98 489.98
-- ~ * * * * ~ * --- - €t al.
Pagan, Oliver E. . . . . . ----- Attorney------------------------------ Vºl. fººw York, New Haven & Hart- || Statutory expenses only............ 367.82 367.82
OTO1 tº alſTO&Cl UO.
Ravenelle, Joseph D. . . . . . . Clerk, New York, southern... . . . . . . . . . United States v. American Sugar Refining Co..... $100 per month.......... 500.00 l.......... 500.00
Rhein, Mary. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stenographer to Van Sinder en | United States v. American Can Co.; United States $50 per month........... 186.66 |.......... 186.66
*-indsley. v. Corn Products Refining Co. *
Scully, Robert. . . . . . . . . . . . . Clerk, New York, southern........... United States v. Hamburg-American Line et al...] $100 per month.--------- 200.00 |.......... 200.00,
Skinner, L. Alice. . . . . . . . . . Stenographer to S. D. Montgomery.... United States v. Prince Line et al.; United States Two-thirds of $100 per 333.33 1. . . . . . . . . . 333.33
v. American-Asiatic Steamship Line et al. month.
Swacker, Frank M. . . . . . . . . Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- Wºº. ºw York, New Haven & Hart- $5,200 per annum... . . . . . 2, 103.10 52.30 2,155.40
€Tal. ord O3Cl. UO. --

#
Antitrust cases.-----------------------------------
Smith, Dan Morgan........
Spence, Kenneth M. .......
Svensson, Marie C. .........
Thompson, Claude A.......
Todd, G. Carroll. . . . . . . . . . .
Watson, James L. . . . . . . . . .
Welty, Banjamin F. . . . . . . .
Pay rolls------------------.
Miscellaneous..............
Total disbursements -
Special investigator and attorney,
Illinois, northern.
Special assistant United States attor-
ney, New York, southern.
Clerk-stenographer, New York, south-
©IIl.
Special assistant United States attor-
ney, New York, southern.
Assistant to the Attorney General... . .
Clerk, New York, southern.... . . . . . . . .
Spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen-
9Tal.
Secretary, clerks, and messengers at
Washington.
Accountants, examiners, emergency
stenographers (field), printing, rents,
telegrams, telephones, etc.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
United States v. Illinois Leather Co.; United States
v. Union Tanning Co.; United States v. Ameri-
Gan Oak Leather Co.
United States v. New York, New Haven & Hart-
ford Railroad Co. ~.
United States v. American Tobacco Co. et al. . . . . .
Statutory position, $9,000 per annum... . . . . . . . . . . .
United States v. American Sugar Refining Co. . . . .
Plumbers' Trust cases............................
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a s sº º sº º e s sº sº, sº e s = e s = sº e s m as * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$150 per month---...---.
$2,500 per annum........
$1,300 per annum........
$3,300 per annum... . . . . .
Expenses only . . . . . -----
$1,000 per annum........
$4,000 per annum........ t
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s = * * * * * * is is
* * * * * * * * * * * * *-s º ºs º º sº & E; E * * * * *
< * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
750.00 |.......... 750, 00
472.22 |.......... 472. 22
541.66 |.......... 541.66
1,400.00 |.......... 1,400.00
* * * * * * * > * * * * 1, 60 1.60
333.33 |.......... 333.33
1,666.66 553.62 2,220.28
3,739.16 |.......... 3,739.16
1,486.07 || 9,319.22 || 10,805.29
72,781.24 |17,374, 72 90,155.96

;
Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Enforce-
ment of antitrust laws, etc., 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1914 (includes all payments to Jam. 21, 1915). *
Amounts paid.
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary. C
- ompen-
sation. Expenses. Total.
Adkins, Jesse C-........... Assistant Attorney General............] Services as Assistant Attorney General............ Expenses only . . . . . . . . . . $416.67 $667.58 || $1,084.25
Anderson, J. R.-----------. sº issistant to the Attorney | United States v. Wholesale Grocers' Association... $3,000 per annum........ 1,808.33 28.85 | 1,837.18
€Ineral. '
Baldwin, Ernest E.........|..... do--------------------------------- United States v. The Prince Line et al.; United To be determined....... 7,500.00 21.70 || 7,521.70
:* v. The American Asiatic Steamship Co.
0U 8.1.
Chamberlin, E. P.---------|-----do--------------------------------- United States v. The Great Lakes Towing Co. et al...] $300 per month.......... 2,900.00 134.04 || 3,034.04
Ghantland, William T. . . . . . . . . . do--------------------------------- United States v. The Keystone Watch-case Co.; &
United States v. The American Can Co.; United
States v. ', he American Smelting & Refining Co. $4,500 per annum... . . . . . 4,500.00 | 1,384.75 5,884.75
Childs, Robert W. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, Illinois | United States v. 'l'he Chicago Butter & Egg Board;
northern. United States v. ', he Quaker Oats Co.; United g
e States v. Joy Morton et al. ------------------------ To be determined. - - - - - - 725.00 91. 55 816. 55
Clark, Lincoln R. . . . . . . . . . . Spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen- Uº. $ºtes v. The American Smelting & Re- $2,500 per annum........| 2,499.99 248.61 2,748.60
€I'81. Illng CO.
Coles, Malcolm A.....- - - - - - - | * * * * * do-------------------------- * - - - - - United States v. The Singer Sewing Machine Co.; $4,500 per annum........ 2,737.50 433.71 3, 171.21
United States v. The Tile Manufacturing Asso-
ciation et al.; United States v. McCaskey Ac-
count Register Co.
Colton, Henry E. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- U. States v. The United States Steel Corpora- $5,000 per annum........ 4,999.99 1,705. 57 6,705. 56
1OIl. -
Coudert, Frederic R... . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------. Anthracite Coal Trust cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..] $1,000 per month........ 8,866.67 116.34 8,983.01
Crow, Edward C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- U.g. ; : Q). The Terminal R. R. Association $2,500, total............. 2,000.00 |.......... 2,000.00
of St. Louis et al. -
Davies, Morgan L. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TJnited States v. The Chicago Board of Trade...... $4,000 per annum........ 8, 568. 67 |.......... 3,568.67
Davis, John W. . . . . . . . . . . . . Solicitor General . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Services as Solicitor General.----------------...-- #º: only----------|---------. 6.75 6.75
Dickinson, Jacob M. . . . . . . . Spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. The United States Steel Corpora- || To be determined. . . . . . . 22,500.00 243.70 || 22,743. 70
0I '81. - tion.
Dorr, Goldthwaite H. -- - - - - Special assistant United States attor- United States v. Thompson et al. (cotton pool)----|-.... do------------------ 2,500.00 |.......... 2,500.00
ney, New York, southern.
Esterline, Blackburn....... Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. The Keystone Watch Case Co., | Expenses only . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107. 31 107.31
eral. and other cases. . g
Fowler, James A. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. United Shoe Machinery Co. . . . . . . . $7,000 per annum.... . . . . 6,416.67 750.56 || 7,167.23
Gann, E. E----------------|----- do-------------------------------- United States v. Southern Pacific Co. et al.... . . . . . $3,600 per annum........ 600.00 382.47 982. 47
Gas; ins, J. R. ------------- Law Clerk----------------------------- Anti-Trust Cases ---........ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Expenses only ----------|---------- 6. 6.00
Gordon, Thurlow M. . . . . . . . Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen- º: States v. Lehigh Valley Railroad Co., and $3,600 per annum........|... . . . . . . . 216. 56 216. 56
€I8,1. OUIlêI C2S6S.
Gregg, William S...........'. . . . . do-------------------------------- Plumbers' Trust Cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $4,500 per annum........! 4,694.44 1,514.64
6,209.08
;
f
Gregory, T. W. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Grosvenor, Edwin P. . . . . . .
Guiler, Henry A. . . . . . . . . . .
Harrison, O. E.............
Hottenstein, Marcus S. . . . .
Husted, Glenn E
Hyman, M
Kingsbury, Howard T. ....
e - - - e º e º e - e º s e º e -
Knapp, James R...........
Lindsley, Van Sinderin. . . .
Lott, John L. -------------.
Lutz, Hugh P. . . . . . . . . . . . .
McKercher, Clark. . . . . . . . . .
Machen, Arthur W. . . . . . . .
Mitchell, Henry S. . . . . . . . . .
Montgomery, S. D. . . . . . . . .
Morrison; Charles B. . . . . . . .
Myers, A. F. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Orr, James W. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Pagan, O. E. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Parkin, Harry A. . . . . . . . . . .
Pepper, George W. . . . . . . . .
Ramage, B. J. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Roadstrum, V. N. . . . . . . . . .
Shelby, Evan. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Smyth, C. J. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Stahl, William S. . . . . . . . . . *
Swacker, Frank M.
Special assistant attorney, New York
Southern
Special assistant to the Attorney Gen-
eral.
º º ºs º- - - - * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - a tº e - - - - - e.
Special assistant attorney, New York,
southern Colorado, and southern
California.
Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen-
©I'81.
• * = s. s. v.A.V - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * e s
northern.
Special assistant to the Attorney Gen-
0I '81. -
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * s
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Special assistant to the Attorney Gen-
eral. -
Attorne
Special assistant attorney, Illinois,
northern.
* e • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Special assistant to the Attorney Gen-
€IſàI.
SOuthern.
Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen-
ÖI'811.
Special assistant attorney, Illinois,
northern. - - - *
Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen-
€1.8.1.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
&
United States v. United Shoe Machinery Co.; United $1,000 per month.......
States v. New York, New Haven & Eartford
Raiload Co.
§º: patents Case-----------------------
National Tarvester Case. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
United States v. Hamburg-American Line et al.,
and other cases.
United States v. Lake Shore & Michigan Southern
Railway et al.; United States v. National Cash
Register Co. et al.; United States v. John H.
Patterson et al.
Natural-gas cases, and other matters............. -
tjnited States v. Southern Pacific Railway Co. et al.
Eastman Kodak case . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Anthracite Coal Trust cases; United States v.
Reading Railway Co. et al.
Steamship Lines, Lumber case, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
|United States v. Corn Products Co. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
National Cash Register Co. case. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
United States v. Quaker Oats Co., and other cases
which may be assigned to him by the United
States attorney. -
Lumber Trust cases. . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
United States v. Lehigh Valley Railroad Co. et al.
Anti-Trust cases - - - - - - - - - -, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
United States v. the American Asiatic Steamship
0. -
United States v. Standard Oil Co.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Antitrust cases------------------------------------
Uniº States v. Southern Pacific R. R. Co.
et al.
Antitrust cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
|United States v. John A. Johnson; United States
v. Elgin Board of Trade; United States v. Illinois
Central R. R. and other cases.
United States v. the United States Steel Corpora-
tion. -
Assists in antitrust cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Cotton pool cases... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
e
United States v. Periodical Clearing House. . . . . . . .
Washington & Oregon Telephone cases . . . . . . . . . . . .
Special antitrust Cases..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
New York, New Haven & Hartford, Mellen cases,
and other cases in violation of the Sherman law.
$5,000 per annum.......
On account
$3,000 per annum.......
To be determined......
$4,000 per annum. . . . . .
$250 per month.........
$5,000 per annum. . . . . .
$300 per month.........
$3,500 per annum.......
$125 peremonth-- . . . . . . .
$5,000 per annum.......
$500 per month. . . . . . . .
$3,600 per annum--- - - - -
$3,000 per annum.... --.
To be determined . . . . . .
Expenses only . . . . . . . . .
$500 per month-- - - - - - - -
Expenses only . . . . . . . . .
$3,500 per annum. . . . . . .
To be determined . . . . . .
$2,500 per annum. . . . . . .
$25 per day.... . . . . . . . . .
To be determined. . . . . .
$1,000 per mouth.......
$250 per month.........
$8 per day... …
11,200.00
6,500.00
3,000.00
1,500.00
1,516.67
537. 56
1,988.90
2,183.33
4,750.00
3,600.00
3,500.00
375. 00
1,249.99
230.00
2,833.33
2,580.00
* * - - - - - - - -
8,866.67
600.00
4,098.00
3,088.31
908. 29
20. 60
29. 10
25.85
376. 00
391.98
147. 74
356. 54
1,179.98
239.87
12.00
1,773.84
- - - - a. as a - - -
- ~ * * * * * ~ * *
- - - sº sº e - - - -
14, 288.31
7,408. 29
3,020.60
1,529.10
5,106.54
3,861.09
4,888. 20
375.00
1, 711.90
1,090.15
230.00
4,013. 31
2,819.87
12.00
6,123.84
217.89
1,825.00
1,000.00
208.33
1,958.40
255.00
11,100. 55
500.00
4,761.50
g
Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Enforce-
ment of antitrust laws, etc., 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1944 (includes all payments to Jan. 21, 1915)—Continued.
T - | Amounts paid.
Name. Title. & Cases in which employed. Salary. sº º sa’s º ºs- ºr ſº -> * ~ ** * ~ * * : * *
- . * - - - * - - º Expenses. Total.
| - t w -- -
Thompson, Claud A. . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, New York, United States v. Metropolitan Tobacco Co.; United || $3,300 per annum. . . . . . . $2,475.00 $264. 95 || $2,739.95.
Southern. States v. National Wholesale Jewelers’ Associa- || -
* tion; United States v. Straw Board Co. &
Todd, G. Carroll . . . . . . . . . . --| Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. the Beading Co.; United States;v. $500 per month. ... . . . . . . 583.33 70. 45 653.78
- eral, Temple Iron Co.; United States v. Central R. R. -
- Co. of New Jersey; United States v. Delaware,
i Lackawanna & Western R. R. - -- -
Toomer, W. M. . . . . . . . . . . . \ sº assistant attorney, Georgia, United States v. American Naval Stores et al...... j To be determined....... 1,119.00 |.........., 1,119.00
SOuthern. }
Voigt, John F. . . . . . . . . . . . . . , Special assistant attorney, Illinois, United States v. the Quaker Oats Co., and other $250 per month.......... 250.00 l........... 250.00
northern. cases, in central district of Illinois. -
Webster, Allen............. sº assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. United Shoe Machinery Co., et al.; $25 per-day............. 5,609.00 || 864.87 6,464.87
s €Tal. - - - -
Welty, Benjamin F - - - - - - - -|- - - - - do-------------------------------- Plumbers' Trust cases. --------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $4,000 per annum....... 2,122.22 | 1,010.00 3,132.22
Examiners and Stenogra- ". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * .* * * * * |- s • * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * .........|102;925.36 |102,925.36
phers to take testimony || ! {
appointed by the courts; : : |162,809. 59 |127,243,11290,052.70
clerks, stenographers | - - - * * |
an dº experts; printing ||
and miscellane o us ||
items, compensation and { *
expenses. }

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x=- ~ *- : * ~ * = - ~~~ - - - - - - - * * * * * * *
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 781
Mr. MONDELL. In this list of antitrust employees does the per
annum rate given contemplate that these attorneys give the Gov-
ernment all of their time during the period for which employed 7
Mr. TODD. I think that is so, without a single exception. It is
in cases where the compensation is to be determined by the Attorney
General that they do not give their whole time in some instances,
but I can not recall an instance amongst the regular salaried
employees. If you will permit me to glance over the list 2 [After
examining list.] That does not apply to Mr. John Lord O’Brien,
who has just retired as district attorney for the western district of
New York and who is completing his work in a case in which he was
engaged at the time.
Mr. MONDELL. In that case that is not a per annum employment
or even a temporary employment at a per annum rate 3 You have so
stated it in the list. -
Mr. ToDD. I should say that it is a temporary employment at this
rate. - -
Mr. MONDELL. I understand that these gentlemen were not per-
manently employed and therefore they might not be employed for
a full year, but my question was, are they supposed to give their
entire time to the Government service during the time they are
employed at this rate per annum ? i .
Mr. ToDD. That is so in most every case. I was picking out the
exceptions. That is not so in the case of Mr. O’Brien. It is not so
in the case of Mr. Adkins. I think it is so in every other case.
Mr. MoWT).ELL. In the cases you have mentioned the employment
is not on a per-annum basis but it is employment in connection
with some particular case ?
º TODD. Exactly; and when that case ends, the employment
€IOCIS.
l *::: MONDELL. To that extent the statement is just a little mis-
eadling. -
Mr. ToDD. Well, this statement is entitled, “Proposed list of
antitrust employees,” and that is not as informing as it might be.
It is a statement of all persons who are now on the pay roll under
this appropriation. -
Mr. MonBELL. Yes, but they are given as employees who are
compensated on a per-annum basis, which I assume would be with
the understanding that for the time of their employment they gave
the Government all their time, but you say in some cases the em-
ployment is for a certain case ?
Mr. ToDD. Exactly. * - -
Mr. MoMDELL. And the payment then in that case is for the work
necessary to be done under that particular employment and without
regard to the time 3 *
Mr. ToDD. But it is at this rate. Mr. O'Brien is paid at the rate
of $4,500 a year for the time only that he is employed in this case.
Mr. Mond ELL. That is what I want to know. Are these employ-
ments on cases with an understanding of the amount that shall be
paid for the work done on the cases, or are they employments where
the time which the attorney gives to the case is paid for at the rate of
so much per annum ? That is what your statement would indicate—
that is, that they are employments at So much per annum for the
time during which the attorney is employed—is that it 3 * ,
782 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. As distinguished from cases where you might pay
an attorney for his services in connection with the case without
regard to the time during which he was employed 3
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir.
Mr. MondELL. Of course the payment would take into consider-
ation the time he was employed, but the particular employments of
that kind are where the attorney is paid on the basis of the impor-
tance and value of his work?
Mr. TODD. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Now, these employments, as I understand it, are
at the rate of so much per annum for the time which the attorneys
give to the work?
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir. As a matter of fact, those are cases—the two
exceptions—which while they last will take pretty nearly all of their
time. They are cases of such an engrossing character that they
would take pretty nearly the exclusive time of the men, and in those
instances the rate of compensation was fixed by the year simply to
establish a measure, rather than leave it to be determined at the
conclusion of the services.
Mr. MoRDELL. What is the character of service that these attor-
neys are rendering'. I refer to the attorneys named in the first list
at the head of that schedule. - 2
Mr. ToDD. They are actively in charge of the trials of important
dases. For example, Mr. McClennen, of Boston, is actively eng, ged
in the trial of the suit against the Southern Pacific Co., involving the
question whether its control of the Central Pacific constitutes a com-
bination in restraint of trade. Mr. James W. C. sborne and Mr. R. L.
Batts are in active charge of the prosecution of indictments against
certain officers and directors of the New Haven Railroad Co. . .
Mr. MONDELL. Their compensation will be fixed by the Attorney
General 2 -
Mr. ToDD. When they are through with that particular work.
Mr. MondBLL. I notice that in one instance here you have a name
that also appears on the other list—Mr. Grosvener. º
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir; that was a mistake. He belongs in that first
list, and his services have practically been concluded. He was a
special assistant in the case ag inst the Harvester combination and
against the Moving Picture combination. The Moving Picture case
was argued a few weeks ago and his services have practically been
concluded.
Mr. MONDELL. What was that case ?
Mr. ToDD. The Motion Picture case involves an alleged combina-
tion to monopolize the business of furnishing positive motion-picture
films to exhibitors throughout the United States. It is pending in
the eastern district of Pennsylvania and, as I said, was argued a
few weeks ago—fully a month ago, rather. -
Mr. MondBLL. Referring to this statement of amounts paid to
special assistants for the period from July 1, 1914, to December 15,
1914, are these in the main sums earned in that period, or, in some
cases, are they sums earned from work extending over a considerable
period and paid during that time?
Mr. TODD. In the main, I should say that they were sums earned
during that period. There may have been some overlapping.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 783
In connection with that statement I would like to draw attention
to one thing: You will see that it foots up, I think, to about $90,000.
That is less than one-third of the appropriation, and yet the year is
nearly half gone. You might, on the face of it, think that that
means we will not incur expenditures amounting to $300,000 in the
current fiscal year, but that is misleading. The payments never
keep abreast of the expenses, because a large }. of the expenses
incurred in the enforcement of this act consist, for instance, of print-
ing and stenographic work in taking the testimony. The testimony
in these cases is very voluminous, and the bills for stenographic
services and printing are very large, but they never come in—I will
not say they never come in —but generally they do not come in until
the case is near its close, and bills of that sort incurred during this
fiscal year may not come in until six months after the close of this
fiscal year. The last year, for example, closed with an apparent
surplus of about $50,000, but the bills which have since come in for
expenses incurred in that fiscal year have cut it down to about
$1,700. - - - .
Mr. MoRDELL. In one case, I notice here, J. M. Dickinson received
a payment of $7,542.50, and I notice under the head of “salaries”
the words “to be determined.” Is this a payment on account, or is
it the total payment 3
Mr. ToDD. No, sir; he has been paid in full for his services in the
steel case. That statement simply means that his was an appoint-
ment under which the compensation was determined by the Attorney
General at the conclusion of the services.
Mr. MondELL. Then, this is the total payment or final payment'.
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir; that was the final payment. He has been
paid in full. - *
Mr. Mond ELL. What was the total payment to Mr. Dickinson on
account of the steel corporation employment'
Mr. ToDD. The total payment from the beginning of his employ-
ment 3 --
Mr. MONDELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. ToDD. He was appointed in September, 1911, and the total
payment to him under the last administration and under this for all
purposes—that is, for compensation and for expenses—was $70,000.
Mr. GILLETT. How many years was he employed 3
Mr...TODD. He was appointed September 19, 1911, and his services
continued until the end of the argument of the case, which was on
October 28, 1914.
Mr. MonpELL. What was the outcome of that case?
Mr. ToDD. That case has not been decided. It is still under
advisement by the court.
Mr. MoRDELL. It was decided by the lower court, was it not ?
Mr. ToDD. I beg your pardon, it has not been.
Mr. GILLETT. Did it take all of his time?
Mr. ToDD. Every bit of it. He devoted that portion of his life to
this case. He gave up his office and practice and devoted that
portion of his life to this case.
The CHAIRMAN. Is anybody employed now under this appropria-
tion at an annual compensation of $12,000 a year } It appears on
784 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
the roll of June 30, 1914, but I do not see it under the roll of October
1, 1914. - 4 t
Mr. ToDD. Nobody is now employed at that stipulated salary.
There are several employed under the provision that their compen-
sation shall be determined. When I was before the committee the
last time there were two whom I recalled being paid at that rate
One was Mr. Gregory, who was special counsel of the Government in
the New Haven case.
Mr. GILLETT. Is that the present Attorney General'.
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir. The other was Mr. C. J. Smyth, who was
special counsel in the case against the American Telephone & Tele-
graph Co. on the Pacific coast, in Oregon. I do not recall any others.
Mr. MoRDELL. There are seven attorneys on this list whose com-
pensation is to be determined in the manner you have suggested.
Mr. ToDD. Two or three of these, Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Grosvener
and Mr. Smyth, as I stated, have practically concluded or have con-
cluded their services, and as regards Mr. Morrison, there is not a
great deal left for him to do. Mr. Morrison was one of the special
counsel in the Standard Oil case, and there are still some odds and
ends in connection with that case which he is engaged in closing up.
But you might say that the only two men now actively and generally
employed whose compensation is to be determined by the Attorney
General are Mr. E. F. McClennen, of Boston, and Mr. James W.
Osborne, of New York, Mr. Osborne being connected with the New
Haven case and Mr. McClennen with the Southern Pacific case.
Mr. GILLETT. Everything else is done by the regular force :
Mr. ToDD. By men on a salary basis.
Mr. GILLETT. And some of them are a part of the regular force'
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir. As regards those employed in special cases;
their work will end when the special cases end.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 theré was about $30,000 of this appropri-
ation unexpended. What is it expected will be spent this year?
Mr. ToDD. For what purpose? .
The CHAIRMAN. Under this appropriation. There was unexpended
about $30,000 in 1914.
Mr. ToDD. While you were out I explained that, but I will be glad
to go over it. As a matter of fact, that has declined to little over
$1,000. As I explained, the payments under this appropriation never
come abreast with the expenses for the reason that a large part of the
expenses consists of the expense of printing and stenographic services,
the bills for which usually come in late. -
EXEMPTION OF LABOR OR FARMERs' ORGANIZATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. You propose to drop out the proviso ,
Mr. ToDD. No, sir; we made no recommendation for that.
The CHAIRMAN. You did not include it in the estimate. ,
Mr. TODD. That was probably on the theory that you only desired
our opinion as to the amount of money we needed.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you propose to drop it out if you do not
submit it. What effect has the Clayton Act on this language?
Mr. TODD. There has not been time yet to demonstrate. I mean
that during the time that has elapsed since its passage no facts have
developed which would afford a basis for any intelligent answer to
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 785
that question. The natural expectation would be that it would
increase litigation.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean regarding this proviso. -
Mr. ToDD. That is a question which has not been raised as yet.
Mr. MoRDELL. Did you strike out that proviso on the theory that
the prohibitions contained in the Clayton Act would take the place
of the prohibitions in this actº
Mr. ToDD. No, sir. e s
Mr. MoMDELL. And that, therefore, this was not necessary 7
Mr. ToDD. No, sir; there was no intention to strike out the pro-
viso. The purpose was simply to estimate the amount of money
which we would need for the enforcement of this act. We do not
presume to give any advice to Congress on that question of legisla-
tive policy. & - -
Mr. MoRDELL. It is not the practice of Congress to carry in appro-
priation bills limitations or prohibitions that are in the law, and as
the Clayton bill has certain limitations and prohibitions regarding
these matters, or the matters referred to in the proviso, my query
was, Did you assume that the prohibitions and limitations of the
Clayton Act rendered this proviso no longer necessary 7
Mr. ToDD. No, sir. . d
There is one matter that I would like to bring to the attention of
the committee, if I may. This relates to the title which the Attorney
General gives the persons who are employed under lump-sum appro-
priations, particularly under the antitrust appropriation. Und r the
existing law and practice if the Attorney General employs anyone
for legal sºrvice under him, no matter how trivial and no matter how
temporary the employment, he has to give him the imposing title of
sp?cial assistant to the Attorney General. It may seem to be a
trivial matter to you as I state it, but it is really a matter of no little
moment. It tends to belittle the title itself. I will not say that it
belittles the dignity of the department, but I do not know but what
I would be justified in saying that. Altogether it seems very unfitting
that every person whom the Attorney General may have to employ
under lump-sum appropriations, and particularly under the antitrust
appropriation, for any service, no matter how limited or how trivial
it may be, must be given this imposing title of Special Assistant to
the Attorney General. It is not only perhaps belittling to the
dignity of the department and to the title of special assistant to
the Attorney General, but I think it is misleading to the public at
large, particularly away from Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. The only reason he has to be given that title is to
avoid having a civil-service examination; is that true :
Mr. ToDD. No, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. What makes you do that ?
Mr. ToDD. That is provided for in section 366 of the Revised
Statutes, which reads as follows:
Every attorney or counselor who is specially retained under the authority of the
Department of Justice to assist in the trial of any case in which the United States is
interested shall receive a commission from the head of such department as a special
assistant to the Attorney General or to some one of the district attorneys, as the nature
of the appointment may require, and shall take the oath required by law to be taken
by the district attorneys and shall be subject to all the liabilities imposed upon
them by law.
72785–15—50
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786 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
So, as the accounting officers understand the law, every appoint-
ment made by the Attorney General of any persons who render legal
assistance to him under any of the lump-sum appropriations must be
given this imposing title, and we are strongly of the conviction that
it is belittling to the dignity of the department to have these numer-
ous titles spread out over the country, as it were, and it is also mis-
leading. The people do not understand it; and, altogether, we think
it is a situation which should be relieved. .
The CHAIRMAN. What would you propose?
Mr. TODD. I have here a suggested proviso, as follows:
Provided, That any person employed by the Attorney General to render legal
service in the United States whose salary is payable from this or any other lump-sum
- appropriation may be given by the Attorney General, in his discretion, the designa-
tion “special assistant to the Attorney General,” “special assistant United States
attorney” (for any district), “attorney, Department of Justice,” “assistant attorney,
Department of Justice,” or “special attorney, Department of Justice.”
If you think there are too many titles there, you could strike out
some of them. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any other titles to suggest ?
Mr. TODI). No, sir. -
Mr. GILLETT. Why not say, ‘‘to be given such designation as the
Attorney General thinks proper” . ſ -
Mr. ToDD. I prefer that, but I thought if the committee should
make the change they would want to make the change specific. I
would much prefer to have it in the way suggested by Mr. Gillett.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the history of that section of the Revised
Statutes? - - *
Mr. ToDD. I do not know. It was enacted in the early history of the
country, I think. . -
Mr. GILLETT. In what year. "
Mr. ToDD. I can not tell you that offhand; I am sorry, but I will
put it in the record. -
Mr. MoRDELL. As I understand it, it was not the purpose of that
statute to confer any high-sounding title upon anyone, but to provide
for the issuance of a commission and to provide the way in which the
appointment should be made. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is every lawyer º under this appropriation
specially retained to assist in the trial of these cases?
Mr. ToDD. You might be able to make a distinction
The CHAIRMAN (intérposing). You have enough employees in the
Department of Justice to construe that?
Mr. ToDD. The trouble is that the Department of Justice does not
control the accounting Officers. -
The CHAIRMAN. The comptroller accepts the construction of the
Attorney General as to the meaning of statutes. That is an advan-
tage that your department has over every other department of the
Government. g
Mr. ToDD. I think you will find, Mr. Chairman, that the comptroller
is not bound to accept the Attorney General's construction of the
statutes, and that there are numerous cases where he has not done so.
Mr. GILLETT. Is there another appropriation out of which you pay
for this work? *
Mr. ToDD. No, sir; not for lawyers. There is an appropriation for
the detection and prevention of crime, and we use some special agents
sometimes in that way, but no lawyers. *
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 787
Mr. MonBELL. You could appoint a lawyer and call him a special
examiner, couldn’t you ? & -
Mr. ToDD. Yes, sir; but probably he would not be qualified to assist
in a trial on behalf of the United States, in view of this section of the
Revised Statutes. -
Mr. GILLETT. Js there any indication of a diminution of the work
of this class, or is it increasing? º -
Mr. ToDD. There is no diminution of it, and I think it will increase
with the Clayton Act and the trades commission act. I went over
that quite fully in the opening part of my statement.
SUITS FOR REMOVAL OF RESTRICTIONS, ALLOTTED LANDS, FIVE CIVIL-
IZETD TRIBES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Suits for removal of restric-
tions, allotted lands, Five Civilized Tribes,” etc. You are asking
$40,000. What was the amount made available for the current year?
Mr. CALDWELL. The amount available for the current year was the
unexpended balance from last year, and I calculate that was about
$67,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the situation ?
Mr. CALDWELL. As to the amount expended or the work?
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you expended for the first six
months of this fiscal year }
Mr. CALDw ELL. For the first five and one-half months—we have
these figures up to December 15—we expended about $11,000, and
on that basis the expenses for this fiscal year will be something short
of $25,000.
The CHAIRMAN. What are you doing under this appropriation?
Mr. CALDWELL. When I was before this committee last, we were
conducting investigations in the field with a view to determining a
definite policy to be pursued with reference to that mass of litigation
with which you are familiar, and that consumed about three months.
At the end of that investigation the work was taken out of the hands
of the special counsel and placed in the hands of the United States
attorney for the eastern district of Oklahoma. Since taking hold of
it, he has been making a classification of these cases. There were
several thousand of them, as you will recall, and he has only recently
completed that work, so there has not been a great deal accomplished
in the way of disposition of individual cases since the first of the fiscal
Gà, I’. -
y There have been, however, several cases taken on appeal; that is,
cases decided by the lower courts have been taken on appeal to the
Court of Appeals, and one case came to the Supreme Court and was
decided recently. These cases will determine points of rather wide
application, and each one of them will result in the disposition of a
large number of these several thousand pending gases. There are
four cases now pending in the Circuit Court of Appeals at St. Louis—at
least one of them was argued three or four days ago and the other there
are pending. We calculate that those four cases will pave the way
for the disposition for at least half of the pending suits or pending cases.
You understand, there are some three hundred and odd suits, each one
of them involving large numbers of conveyances of land. There were
originally about 30,000 of those conveyances involved, and there are
still pending suits involving about 16,600 conveyances. As I have
said, test suits have been carried to the appellate courts, and so far
788 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
it is calculated that they will dispose of about half of those cases.
There are other pending suits that will probably be dismissed because,
under legislation enacted after the date of the conveyances sued upon,
the lands involved were made alienable; and the Indians who have
alienated those lands have done it properly, and no good effect would
probably follow the further prosecution of the suits. All of these
considerations will eliminate a large number of the pending suits,
notwithstanding which those that remain will undoubtedly present
a large number of very complex and perplexing questions.
Mr. MoMDELL. You said that you have had available for the current
year about $67,000%
Mr. CALDWELL. Yes, sir; $67,000.
Mr. MondBLL. Of which you had expended, up to the 15th of
December, $11,000 %
Mr. CALDWELL. A little short of $11,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. And you anticipated that the total expenditure for
the current year will be $25,000? - -
Mr. CALDw ELL. About $25,000.
Mr. MonoFLL. Leaving $40,000 %
Mr. CALDWELL. About $40,000 of the current appropriation, which
we would like to have continued available for next year, not because
we will possibly need all of it, because our needs are a little bit
uncertain -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). You ask to drop out a part of this
title 7
Mr. CALDWELL. I do not know why that part of the title should
be dropped. We do set aside conveyances of allotted lands.
Mr. MoRDELL. In view of the fact that all they are asking is a
reappropriation, I do not understand why this word “reappropria-
tion” is stricken out. -
The CHAIRMAN. You only ask for a reappropriation ?
Mr. CALDWELL. No, sir; we asked for $40,000 originally, but these
estimates are made so far in advance that it is impossible to make
them accurately, although we made them at that time in good faith;
but now, having expended as small an amount as we have, due to
the fact that we have been somewhat inactive except in the way of
getting these cases in shape to prosecute and dispose of them, we
have not needed as much as we thought we would up to this time,
so that we have a larger balance left - *
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Did you say that you expected to
expend this year $25,000 %
... CALDWELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. That will leave the sum now available $40,000,
which is the amount they ask.
Mr. CALDw ELL. That was originally estimated. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you suggest dropping the words “to set
aside convey, nces of allotted lands”
Mr. CALDWELL. I did not know that suggestion had been made.
I do not think it serves any purpose, and I think we can do as much
with it out is in. - -
Mr. MONDELL. Have you had some legislation since last year
under which these allotted lands can be conveyed 3 • ‘
Mr. CALDWELL. Since last year, no, sir. I do not know whose
suggestion that is, and I did not know it was here. I should think
it would be better to leave that language in.
3.

Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Suits
jor removal of restrictions from allotment lands, Five Civilized Tribes, 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1914, includes all payments
to Dec. 15, 1914.
Amounts paid.
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary. -
- Compen- Ex- Total
sation. penses. e
Brook, Ed K. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stenographer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '• - - - - - - Five Civilized Tribes Indian land cases. . . . . . . . . . . $1,600 per annum. - - - - - - $1,600.00 $3.73 || $1,603.73
Crawford, Richard E....... Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen- |..... do-------------------------------------------- $3,500 per annum. . . . . . . 2,041.66 98.55 2,140.21
era.I.
Cunningham, W. H. . . . . . . . Stenographer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------------------- $1,600 per annum....... 1,600.00 |... . . . . . . . 1,600.00
Frost, A. N. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . sº assistant to the Attorney Gen- |. . . . . do-------------------------------------------- $5,000 per annum. . . . . . . 5,000.00 403. 13 5,403.13
€Tal.
German, W. P. Z. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do--------------------------------|----- do-------------------------------------------- $3,000 per annum. . . . . . . 575.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 575.00
Hardison, Robert. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do--------------------------------|----- do-------------------------------------------- $3, 00 per annum. . . . . . . 2,633.33 34.52 2,667. 85
Mitchell, Henry S. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do--------------------------------|----- do-------------------------------------------- $3,600 per annum. . . . . . . 670, 00 498. 17 | 1,168. 17
Emergency Stenographers, l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------------- 4,532.07 || 4,315.46 8,847. 53
printing, office rent, tele-
phone charges, telegrams,
etc.
18,652.06 || 5,353.56 24,005.62
3

Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Suits
for removal restrictions, allotted lands, Five Civilized Tribes, 1915,” for the period from July 1, 1914, to Dec. 15, 1914.
Amounts paid.
}
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary.
º Exponses. Total.
Albright, J. H.............. Stenographer-------------------------- Five Civilized Tribes Indian cases................. $75 per month........... $357. 50 . . . . . . . . . . $357. 50
#evići, 3. D.I.I.I.I.I.I. do---------------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $100 per month.......... 100.00 ------.... 100.00
Bonds, Archibald.......... Special assistant United States attor- |..... do--------------------------------------------- $2,500 per annum........ 833.33 |.......... 833. 33
ney, Oklahoma, eastern. -
Brook, Ed K----...........l..... dó------------------------------------- do---------------------------------------------|----- do------------------- 966.66 [.......... 966. 66
Cunningham, W. H. . . . . . . . Stenographer------------------------------- do--------------------------------------------- $1,600 per annum........ 666.66 |... ------. 666. 66
Eddleman, Pearl M........|..... do---------------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $75 per month........... 300.00 |.......... 300.00
Ellis, Elmer M. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do---------------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $100 per month.......... 100.00 |- - - - - - - - - - 100.00
Folsom, Elizabeth K.......|- - - - - do:--------------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $1,200 per annum........ 233.33 |.......... 233. 33
Frost, A. M. --------------- Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- |..... do--------------------------------------------- $5,000 per annum........ 833. 33 S62.20 895. 53
0I '81.
German, W. P. Z. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States attor- |..... do------------------------- * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $3,000 per annum........] 1,250.00 34.17 | 1,284.17
noy, Oklahoma, eastern. *.
Hardison, Robert. -- . . . . . . . Spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen.- . . . . . do-------------------------------------------------- do------------------- 1,250.00 2.60 1,252.60
Öſal.
Hinkle, Retta.............. Stenographer.------------------------------ do--------------------------------------------- $75 per month. . . . . . . . . . . 225.00 |..........l. 225.00
LaWrence, Etha------------|----- do---------------------------------|----- do-------------------------------------------------- 0------------ - - - - - - - 250.00 - - - - - - - - - - 250.00
Manning, Ellis W. . . . . . . . . . Clerk----------------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $1,200 per annum....... 400.00 11. 12 411. 12
Rains, Lucy M............. Stenographer--------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $75 per month........... 300.00 - - - - - - - - - - 300, 00
Stone. Mary P. - - - - - - - - - - - -|----- O----- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --do---------------------------------------------|----- do------------------- 282. 50 l.......... 2S2.50
Young, Myra.... . . . . . . . . . . . Clerk.-------------------------------------- do--------------------------------------------- $1,500 per annum..... 625.00 |... -----.. 625. 00
Miscellaneous -...-------... Emergency Stenographers, printing, ----------------------------------------------------|-------------------------- 939, 67 893. 32 , 1,832, 99
rent, telephone and telegraph bills,
etc.
Total.--------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------|-------------------------- 9,912.98 | 1,003. 41 || 10,916. 39
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 791.
SUITS AFFECTING TITLE OF SEM.INOLE ALLOTTED LANDS IN OKLAHOMA.
The CHAIRMAN. “Suits affecting title to Seminole allotted lands in
Oklahoma.” The current appropriation is $15,000, and your estimate
is $12,000. What is the situation there?
Mr. CALDWELL. Most of that work is administrative and is in the
way of advising the Indians, and the principal part of the court work
takes place in the State courts. Last year there was a great deal of
work in the State courts involving the question of the right of the
State to assess allotments for taxes. That has been the main court
work that was done under that appropriation during last year. Five
suits were brought in the State courts, and the Government has been
successful in all of them. As I have said, the greater part of the work
is administrative in the way of advising the Indians in probate and
administrative matters. This work has likewise been turned over to
the United States district attorney at Muskogee during the present
fiscal year, and consequently the salary of $4,000 formerly paid to
the special assistant attorney is not now necessary, and I think that
the appropriation may be reduced safely to $7,500 instead of $12,000,
with the prospect that it will not have to be renewed next year at all.

Statements of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Suits
affecting title to Seminole allotted lands in Oklahoma, 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1914. Includes all payments to
Dec. 15, 1914.
Amounts paid.
Name. es Title. Cases in which employed. Salary. C
Ompen- -
... Expenses. Total
Ba'rer, Dan M. . . . . . . . . . . . . Interpreter---------------------------- Seminole allotted lands cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $75 per month.... . . . . . . . $900.00 - - - - - - - - - - $900, 00
Gresham, James E. . . . . . . . . Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen- |-.... do---------------.---------------------------- $4,000 per annum. . . . . . . 4,000.00 $388.89 4,388.89
- €I31. g -
Miley, John FI-------------|----- O- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do-------------------------------------------- $250 per month.......... 2,833.33 286.78 3,120. 11
Smith, L. Irene. --------... Stenographer-------------------------|----- do-------------------------------------------- $1,200 per annum........ 1,200.00 28.57 | 1,228.57
Emergency Stenographers, ----------------------------------------|-------------.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .------------|.................... - - - - - - 279.00 613.03 892. 03
printing, o.i.ce rent, tele-
phone charges, telegrams,
etc. gº
9,212.33 1,317.27 10,529.60
Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Suits
affecting title to Seminole allotted lands in Oklahoma, 1915,” for the period from July 1, 1914 to Dec. 15, 1914.
Amounts paid.
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Saſary. --
- º Expenses. Total.
Baker, Daniel M . . . . . . . . . . . Interpreter.... … Seminole Indian lands cases..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $75 per month. . . . . . . . . . . $375.00 |... - - - - - - - $375. 00
Gresham, James E. . . . . . . . . Sºl assistant to the Attorney Gen- |..... do--------------------------------------------- $4,000 per annum....... 333.33 $34.05 367. 38
€Tal.
Linebaugh, D. H...... . . . . .] Assistant United States attorney, .....do....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Expenses only. ---------|-----...--- 7. 39 7. 39
Oklahoma, eastern, - -
Miley, J. H..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States attor- |..... do--------------------------------------------- $250 per month. . . . . . . . . 1,000.00 133.44 | 1, 133.44
ney, Oklahoma, eastern.
Smith, L. Irene. . . . . . . . . . . . Stenographer--------------------------|----- do--------------------------------------------- $1,200 per annum........ 500.00 |... . . . . . . . 500. 00
Miscelianeous.............. Emergency Stenographer, office, rent, l----------------------------------------------------|-------------------------- 217.77 125.15 342.92
telephone, etc.
2,426.10 300.03 || 2,726. 13
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 793
PROTECTING INTERESTS OF UNITED STATES IN PACIFIC RAILROADS
- SUITS.
The CHAIRMAN. Your next item is, “Protecting interests of the
United States in suits affecting Pacific railroads,” etc. The current
appropriation is $75,000 and your estimate is $75,000.
Mr. CALDw ELL. There is a great deal of work being done under that
appropriation, and I can only say in justification of that request for
$75,000 p
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). What litigation is pending .
Mr. CALDwDLL. There are several suits pending against the South-
ern Pacific Railroad to recover lands patented to the road under Jand
grants which are claimed to be valuable oil lands. The Government
alleges fraud in the procurement of the patents in many instances,
and in some other instances the Government has relied on the mineral
exemptions contained in the patent. In the main one of these suits
the hearing was begun on Monday of this week and is progressing
now at Los Angeles. That case involves some 6,000 acres. There is
another one pending involving some 45,000 or 46,000 acres, and it is
the same character of case. There were three cases filed on the 7th
of this month to cancel patents, one of them aggregating 11 patents
involving 18,000 acres of land, and another one is for the cancellation
of patents to some 4,400 acres. All of these lands are extremely
valuable for oil, and the bill in each one of the last two suits referred
to alleges the value of the land to be $10,000,000, and that is, I believe,
a conservative estimate.
There will be other bills filed in the near future, in all probability,
to cancel other patents granted to this railroad company. But that
is not all of the Pacific Railroad litigation. There is the Oregon
& California Railroad litigation. One case against the Oregon
& California Railroad Co., in which the Government obtained a
decree canceling the patent to some 2,300,000 acres of land, was
º by the defendants to the court of appeals—that is, the Court
of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, I believe. The court of appeals
announced that, owing to the intricacy of the questions involved
and of the public importance of this case, it would certify certain
controlling questions to the Supreme Court, and that has been done.
The Government has moved for the sending up of the whole record,
but that motion has not been acted upon yet. It doubtless will be,
however, and the case will be heard shortly in the Supreme Court.
It will be advanced, I presume, when it comes up. That case arose
under this appropriation also. - -
Mr. MONDELL. You say that the motion has not been considered
by the Supreme Court'
Mr. CALDWELL. It has not been passed upon yet. Supplementary
to that suit against the Oregon & California Railroad Co. there are
what are known as the “Forty-six purchaser suits.” A majority of
those suits had been terminated at the time of the last hearing be-
fore this committee. Those are suits to cancel patents to lands which
the Oregon & California Railroad Co. acquired in violation of the
terms of the grant and then sold to various purchasers. Under the
terms of the act of August 20, 1912, the Attorney General is authorized
to compromise those suits by stipulating for a decree against the
794 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
railroad company providing that if the purchasers desire to come in
and purchase the land at $2.50 per acre they may be permitted to
do so. Those cases are proceeding rapidly to a conclusion, and I think
there are only five in which applications to purchase have not been
made. They are very nearly concluded.
Mr. MondELL. They will be disposed of within a year? - -
Mr. CALDWELL. I think so, with the probability that one suit
against the Southern Pacific Railroad Co. itself will have to await the
determination of the main suit against the Oregon & California
Railroad Co., but even that may be determined during the year.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you expended so far this year?
Mr. CALDWELL. During the first five and one-half months we
have expended $13,232.
Th; CHAIRMAN. Hºw much do you expect to expend during the
yearſ
Mr. CALDWELL. About $30,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. Then, why are you asking for this amount'
Mr. CALDWELL. Simply because of the uncertainty of the prospec-
tive litigation.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you have anybody now at $1,077 per month?
Mr. CALDWELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is he 3. t
Mr. CALDWELL. That amount is being paid to Mr. E. J. Justice,
special assistant to the Attorney General.
The CHAIRMAN. Is somebody being paid $1,000 per month'.
Mr. CALDWELL. The only man being paid $1,000 per month is
C.J. Smyth. He is being paid $1,000 per month.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they devote all of their time to this work?
Mr. CALDWELL. Those two gentlemen devote all of their time to
Government business, but Mr. Smith devotes a part of his time to
work that is properly paid out of another appropriation, and he is
paid in part from the appropriation for the pay of special assistants
to the Attorney General. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you do that ? I notice that you have two
men here who are being paid half of their compensation out of one
appropriation and half out of another appropriation.
Mr. CALDWELL. The appropriations are for specific purposes, and
it is desirable frequently to give to a particular man
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Why should you carry them on this
appropriation at all if you are able to pay them out of the appro-
priation for special assistants attorneys'
Mr. CALDWELL. That question has been asked before.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir; and you said you could not; but now we
find that you are doing that.
Mr. CALDWELL. I am looking at this appropriation from the stand-
point of the particular branch of work with which I am now con-
nected. When I say that, I mean that I would like to have this
º So that it will not be used up by general demands from
all over the départment about which we, in the public lands division,
know nothing, and can positively know nothing about 18 months in
advance of the time when the money is to be used. We can serve
the interests intrusted to us better if we have this specific appro-
priation. In no instance in recent years have we used the entire
appropriation given us.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 795.
The CHAIRMAN. Do these three men do other work for the Gov-
ernment besides work in connection with litigation, under this par-
ticular item'. How about Mr. Justice? - .
Mr. CALDWELL. Mr. Justice does work that involves oil-land litiga-
º but not Pacific Railroad oil-land litigation. He has quite a bit
of it. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the balance of this appropriation ?
Mr. CALDWIELL. What do you mean by the i.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is to the credit of it º'
Mr. CALDWELL. Up to the end of the first five and one-half months
we had expended $13,000. -
Th; CHAIRMAN. That is out of the appropriation for the current
year -
Mr. CALDWELL. Yes, sir. I do not believe we will use this $75,000,
but, on the other hand, we may need close to that amount.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do you think you will need 3
Mr. CALDWELL. That is quite difficult to say. As I said a moment
ago, the last month of the period for which this appropriation is
being made is nearly 18 months off, and these Pacific #. matters
have given rise to considerable expense in the last two or three years.
They are being conducted more economically now than they were
some time back. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you think so, in view of the fact that you are
paying two men $1,000 per month -
Mr. CALDWELL (interposing). We paid $38,000 out of that appro-
priation last year, but we will not go over $30,000 this year.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that because you are doing less work?
Mr. CALDWELL. We are not doing less work under this appropria-
tion. You are probably thinking of one of the other appropriations,
The CHAIRMAN. Are these two men employed on an annual basis?
Mr. CALDwDLL. No, sir. . The compensation of Mr. Justice is to be
determined upon the completion of his services.
The CHAIRMAN. You put him in here at $1,077 per month'. .
Mr. CALDWELL. He is getting payments at that rate. I do not
know who prepared this statement. *x -
The CHAIRMAN. Who prepared it'.
Mr. CALDWELL. I do not know. It is correct, and payments are
made to him at that rate. .
The CHAIRMAN. But that is not his total compensation ?
Mr. CALDWELL. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And Mr. Smythe
Mr. CALDWELL (interposing). Mr. Smythe's compensation is $1,000
per month. •.
The CHAIRMAN. How long has he been employed
Mr. CALDWELL. Mr. Smythe has been with us, I think, about a
year. He is the gentleman who was formerly "serving under Mr.
Todd in the antitrust work. He is the man about whom he spoke to
you a few moments ago.
Mr. MoMDELL. I notice in this statement of attorneys that there
was paid between July 1, 1913, and January 30, 1914, out of the
antitrust appropriation, to Mr. C. J. Smythe, for compensation at
$1,000 per month, $8,866.67, and for expenses $2,233.88. Is that
the same Mr. Smythe'
Mr. CALDWELL. That is the same gentleman; yes, sir.
796 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. MondBLL. He was employed on the Washington & Oregon
Telephone case? - * r
Mr. CALDwell. That work comes under a different branch of the
department. I presume that is an antitrust case coming under Mr.
Todd. I know nothing about that litigation.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you pay any rent out of this appropriation ?
Mr. CALDWELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Where?
Mr. CALDWELL. At Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Portland.
The CHAIRMAN. What offices do you rent 2 *\
Mr. CALDWELL. In Los Angeles—I am not prepared definitely to
answer you, but I can approximate it.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is out there?
Mr. CALDwDLL. Special Assistant Attorney W. N. Mills.
The CHAIRMAN. Is he employed under this appropriation ?
Mr. CALDWELL. Mr. Mills is paid out of another appropriation, but
he works in part under this appropriation, and it is proposed to pay
him wholly out of this appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. How much does he receive?
Mr. CALDWELL. $6,000 a year. .
The CHAIRMAN. What appropriation is he paid from ?
Mr. CALDWELL. He is not paid from this appropriation at all, but
he ought to be and will be.
The CHAIRMAN. Is he a Los Angeles man?
Mr. CALDWELL. No, sir. I do not know where his voting residence
is, but he went from the department there. e
* CHAIRMAN. Why don’t he have his office in the public building
thore ?
Mr. CALDWELL. There is no room for him in the public building.
The CHAIRMAN. How much rent is paid in Los Angeles?
Mr. CALDw ELL. It is $30 per month. However, he will give this
room up on the 1st of February, because with the argument of the
case I mentioned awhile ago the necessity for the room will be termi-
nated. t
The CHAIRMAN. What offices do you rent in San Francisco º
Mr. CALDWELL. I was mistaken about renting there. The office is
in the Federal building there. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where else do you rent 7
Mr. CALDw ELL. We rent an office in Portland, in the Wilcox
Building. -
The CHAIRMAN. Who is there 7
Mr. CALDw ELL. Mr. Smyth; I can not give you the rental offhand.
The CHAIRMAN. Find that out and put it in the record.
[Three rooms are rented at $82.50 per month.]
Mr. CALDw ELL. Yes, sir. I have a statement here of expenses, in-
cluding examiners and stenographers to take testimony, clerks,
printing, rent, miscellaneous, etc., out of this appropriation and the
receding two, the Seminole and Five Civilized Tribes appropriations,
oth for the first half of this fiscal year and the whole of last year.
à
Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Pro-
tecting interests of United States in suits affecting Pacific railroads, 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1914. Includes all pay-
ments to Dec. 15, 1914. - - &
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary.
Compen- E Total
Sat.On. xpenses. OU8l.
Crawford, James C. . . . . . . . . Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- United States v. Southern Pacific R. R. Co. $2,750 per annum... . . . . . $687.50 || $496.84 || $1,184.34
- eral. et al., and other cases as may come under the -
scope of Mr. Miller’s employment.
Husted, Glenn E... . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Uniº States v. Oregon-California R. R. Co. $3,500 per annum. . . . . . . 3,500.00 731.69 || 4,231.69
- 01, al. -
Justice, E. J.” ------...-----|----- do-------------------------------- Petrolºum land cases, Southern California. . . . . . . . . $7,500 per annum. ......] 3,666.66 1,563. 21 5,229.87
Poisson, L. J.'..............]..... do... ------------------------------ Alºng E. J. Justice in all matters assigned to $2,400 per annum. . . . . . . 416. 67 | . . . . . . . . . . 416.67
11111. t * -
Rabb, F. C. ... . . . . . . . . . . ...l..... do-------------------------------- California-Oregon R. R. Land Grant Cases. . . . . . . . $2,000 per annum. . . . . . . 1,500.00 871.60 2,371.60
Smyth, C. J.'---------------|----- do-------------------------------- United States v. Orºgon & California R. R. Co.; $1,000 per month. . . . . . . . 1,566.67 453.98 || 2,020.65
- - United States v. Southern Oregon Co. et al. :
TOWnsend, B. D. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Pacific railroad cases.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - $5,400 per annum. . . . . . . 2,700.00 1,606.69 || 4,306.69
Examiners and sºnogra- ----------------------------------------|-----------------........... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18,527.62 | 18,527.62
Amounts paid.
phers to take testimony,
appointed by the courts,
and clerks, st?nogra-
phers, experts, printing,
and miscellaneous items
of expense. . -
14,037.50 |24, 251.63 38,289.13
1 One-half paid from this appropriation, and one-half from appropriation “Pay of special assistant attorneys, United States courts, 1914.”
paid from latter appropriation.
v. -
See separate statement for amounts

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Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special ossistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Pro-
tecting interests of United States in swits affecting Pacific railroads, 1915,” for the period from July 1, 1914, to Dec. 15, 1914.
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Amounts paid.
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary.
. º Expenses. Total.
Arnold, Grace... . . . . . . . . . . . Stenographer.......................... Pacific Railroad cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $100 per month. . . . . . . . . . $100.00 |... . . . . . . . $100.00
Beil, R.F.-----------------|----- do------------------------------------- do. . . . .--------------------------------------- $1,400 per annum... . . . . . 583. 33 $27.90 611. 23
Delamore, Josephine. . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - - - - - do. . . . --------------------------------------------- do. . . . .------------- 583.33 1. . . . . . . . . . 583.33
Fulkerson, A. P............ Special employee......................]..... do-------------------------------------------- $150 per month. . . . . . . . . . 750.00 |.......... 750.00
Guard, Madge Lee. . . . . . . . . Stenographer--------------------------|----. do. . . . ---------------------------------------- $1,400 per annum. -- . . . . . 174.99 |. . . . . . . . . . 174.99
Elusted, Glenn E........... sº issistant to the Attorney . . . . . do-------------------------------------------- $3,500 per annum... . . . . . 145.83 |.......... 145. S3
OneT&l.
Justice, E. J.” . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do. . . . .---------------------------|----- do-------------------------------------------- To be determined. . . . . . . 2,688. 50 222.30 2,910.80
Keller, Alice R. . . . . . . . . . . . . Stenographer--------------------------|- ----do-------------------------------------------- $100 per month..... . . . . . 101.66 |- - - - - - - - - - 101.66
Poisson, L. J.'.............. sº #sistant to the Attorney |..... do. . . . ---------------------------------------- $200 per month. . . . . . . . . . 500.00 18. 20 518. 20
0D6F3, I. $
Rabb, Fred C. .................. do.....---------------------------|----. do-------------------------------------------- $2,000 per annum... . . . . . 833.33 82. 14 915. 47
Smyth, C. J.”---------------|..... 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do-------------------------------------------- $1,000 per month. . . . . . . . 2,500.00 448. 48 || 2,948. 48
Williams, Minnie.... . . . . . . . Stenographer.-------------------------|----- do... ----------------------------------------- $1,400 per annum. --- - - - - 583.33 - . . . . . . . . . 583. 33
Examiners and Stenogra- |........................................]-...-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .----------------------------|----------- 2,889. 17 2,889. 17
phers to take testimony,
º: by the courts,
and clerks and stenogra-
phers, printing and mis-
cellaneous items of ex-
pense.
Total.----------------|------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .--|-------------------------- 9,544.30 3,688. 19 || 13.232.49
1 One-half paid from this appropriation and one-half paid from the appropriation “Pay of special assistant attörneys, United States courts. 1915.” See separate statement för
payments paid under the latter appropriation. -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 799
ENFORCEMENT OF ACTS TO REGULATE COMMERCE.
The CHAIRMAN. “Enforcement of acts to regulate commerce.”
The appropriation is $15,000 and your estimate is $15,000. Just
what is the situation ?
Mr. ESTERLINE. Mr. Chairman, we have pºnding and carried over
from the year 1914 just passed 21 suits commencºd by railroads to
annul and enjoin ord rs of the Interstate Commerce Commission. I
submit for the record and for the use of the committee, a statement
of the cases which are now pending in the Supreme Court of the
United States and in the various district courts of the United States,
and the status of each. Or, if you desire it, I will state it very briefly
to the committee.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. ESTERLINE. New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad Co.
w. The United Stat's is a suit commenced in the United States Dis-
trict Court for the District of Connecticut to enjoin the order of the
Interstate Commerce Commission in the so-called Commutation
Fare Rate case. That order of the commission was entºrc d June 19,
1913, and fixed the commutation fares into and out of Greater New
York. The rates fixed to and from points in Connecticut from and
to the Grand Central Terminal in New York were attacked as con-
fiscatory, the New Haven Railroad alleging that the amount allowed
on each commutation fare was not sufficient to pay the cost of
landing its passenger in the terminal. A motion for a prºliminary
injunction was made February 2, 1914. It was risisted in New
York before Circuit Judges Lacombe, Coxe, and Ward. Fobruary
11 following the motion was denied. The rates prºscribed by the
commission have always been in effect. No action has been taken
since that time and the case stands whºre the court left it.
Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio Railroad Co. v. The United
States is a suit commenced in the United States District Court for
the Southern District of Texas to enjoin the order of the Commission
in an investigation entitled Aransas Pass Channel & Dock Co. v.
Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio Railroad Co. That order was
entered June 16, 1913, and directed the Texas lines to cease and
desist from imposing a differential on cotton for export from interior
Texas points to the port of Aransas Pass in Southern Texas higher
than the rates from the same points to the port of Galveston, which
is farther north. That differential resulted in a very heavy move—
ment of cotton to Galveston for export, which port was being built
up, with a very little movement of cotton to Aransas Pass, which port
was being held down. No motion for injunction was made. The
companies propose to take evidence during the first week of March,
1913. That Order is in effect. - -
Louisville & Nashville Railroad Co. v. The United States is a suit
commenced in the United States District Court, Middle District of
Tennessee, to enjoin the order of the Commission in the investigation
entitled Traffic Bureau of Nashville v. Louisville & Nashville Railroad
Co., and that order was entercol December 9, 1913. It directed two
things: First, that the rates on coal from the western Kentucky
fields to Nashville should be reduced from $1 a ton to 80 cents a ton;
second, that the Louisville & Nashville Railroad and the Nashville,
Chattanooga & St. Louis Railway should cease and desist from the
800 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
discriminatory practice of switching coal cars on the terminals at
Nashville for each other and refusing at the same time, and at the
same place, and on the same terminals, to receive and switch the cars
of the Tennessee Cºntral, on what they call noncompetitive coal.
A motion for a preliminary injunction was made before the United
States District Court, consisting of Circuit Judge Warrington, District
Judges McCall and Sanford. The motion was denied. The bill was .
subsequently dismissed. The Louisville & Nashville Railroad Co.
appealed to the Supreme Court. The case is now advanced for hear-
ing on February 23 next. That order has always been in effect.
iº Co. v. The United States is a suit commenced in the
United States District Court, Western District of Pennsylvania, to
enjoin an order of the Interstate Commerce Commission in an investi-
gation entitled Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh Railway Co. v.
Pennsylvania Co., entered December 3, 1913. The case is this: New
Castle, Pa., is served by five railroad companies. The Pennsylvania
Co. had established interchange switching arrangements over its ter.
minals with four of the five companies and had refused at the same
time and at the same place and on the same terminals to establish
such interchange switching relations with the Buffalo, Rochester &
Pittsburgh Railway Co. On complaint of the latter the commission
found a discrimination and directed the Pennsylvania Co. to desist,
either by discontinuing that interchange switching with the four
companies or extending it to the fifth company and thus put them all
on tºne same basis. A motion for a preliminary injunction was argued
at Pittsburgh on April 18, 1914, before Circuit Judges Hunt and
Buffington and District Judge Orr. The motion was denied, Judge
Buffington dissenting. The Pennsylvania Co. appealed to the Su-
preme Court. The case was argued last December and is now
awaiting the judgment of that court. That order was never sus-
ended. p
p Poise Lumber Co. v. Pacific & Idaho Northern Railway Co.,
United States, intervenor, is an investigation pending before the
Interstate Commerce Commission. A lumber company at Boise
attacked the rate of 9 cents per 100 pounds of the Pacific & Idaho
Northern Railway Co. on logs for a haul of 160 miles. The rate was
so high that the logs would not move. The companies were endeav-
oring to buy the logs from the United States Forestry Service, but the
rate prohibited their movement. The timber deteriorating through
insect damage, fires, and other causes, and the United States inter-
vened as a party in interest and was represented by counsel before
the commission. A great deal of testimony was taken last July at
Boise. The case was prepared, argued, and submitted before the
commission last October, and it has been held under advisement
since. That case does not involve an order of the commission. It
is a case in which the Government is interested as a litigant or party
in interest. *
Louisville & Nashville Railroad Co. v. The United States, United
States District Court, Western Tistrict of Virginia, is a suit to enjoin
two orders of the commission fixing the rates on coal from the Appa-
lachia, and St. Charles districts over the lines of the Louisville & Nash-
ville Railroad Co. to points riorth of the Ohio River. October 1, 1914,
the case came on for hearing on a motion for a preliminary injunction
at Big Stone Gap, Va., before Circuit Judges Pritchard and Woods and
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 801
T}istrict Judge McDowell. No preliminary injunction was issued, and,
the further hearing of the case has been postponed indefinitely. That
order is in effect. One of the orders expired January 7, 1915, and is
not longer in controversy. .
Philadelphia & Reading Railway Co. v. The United States, United
States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, is a suit to
enjoin the order of the commission directing the carrier to desist from
a discrimination in rates on cement from Allentown, Pa., to points in
New Jersey and in and around New York City, the discrimination
being aimed at Jersey City and in favor of other nearby localities.
That discrimination was so drastic that no cement moved from the
Lehigh district into Jersey City. The commission entered an order
directing the carrier to desist. A bill was filed to enjoin. The case
was argued before Circuit Judges Hunt and Woolley and District Judge
Tickinson. On January 16 of this year the court filed an opinion and
dismissed the petition. No appeal has been taken. -
St. Louis, Iron Mountain & Southern Railway Co. v. The United
States, United States District Court, Eastern District of Illinois, is a
suit filed August 27, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission
directing the lines south of the Ohio River to remove the discrimina-
tion in their rates on lumber against Metropolis, Ill., a city near the
Ohio River, and in favor of Cairo, Ill. The difference in the rates
is about 5 cents. September 10, 1914, a motion for a preliminary
injunction was argued before Circuit Judge Baker and District
Judges Humphrey and Wright, at Danville. That motion was
granted. At the same time a final decree was entered permanently
enjoining the order of the commission. The court held that the
carrier could not be charged with a discrimination against a locality
which its railroad did not reach and which it did not serve with
through routes and joint rates with other carriers. The Government
appealed, and the case is pending in the Supreme Court.
Crosby Transportation Co. v. The United States, United States
District Court, Eastern District of Wisconsin, is a suit filed November
20, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission directing the Crosby
Transportation Co., a water line company operating between Grand
Haven, Mich., and Milwaukee, to desist from the discrimination of
maintaining a through route and joint rate with the Grand Trunk
Railway System, and at the same time refusing to maintain a through
route and joint rate with an electric line system operating from
Detroit to the port on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan, where
it also connected with the water line. In a bill filed, the water line
company alleged that, even though it was a common carrier, it had
no docks and facilities at either of the ports to handle through traffic
for the electric line. The United States district court at Milwaukee,
consisting of Circuit Judges Baker and Seaman, and District Judge
Geiger, denied a motion for preliminary injunction and dismissed
the petition. No appeal has been prosecuted and the order is in
force. -
Mr. MONDELL. In reference to that last case, I did not clearly
catch just what the final action was. The petition was to compel
this company to make a joint rate. Was that the petition?
Mr. EstERLINE. Yes; the complaint before the commission was
to compel the water line company to make a through route and joint
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rate with the electric line, which paralleled the Grand Trunk. You
see, the Grand Trunk had all of the business.
Mr. Mond ELL. I understand. -
Mr. ESTERLINE. The order directed the water line to desist from
that preference to the Grand Trunk, while it denied the same advan-
tage to the electric line. The Crosby Transportation Co. filed a bill
in the district court to enjoin the commission's Order, alleging that it
had no docks and facilities on either shore to operate in connection
with the electric line, but that it did operate with the Grand Trunk in
connection with the Grand Trunk's own docks and facilities. The
court held that the water line, having invoked the jurisdiction of the
court as a common carrier, the law compelled it to furnish facilities,
and that it did not lie within its power to say that it had none.
Mr. Mond ELL. The effect of that action is to compel them to make
a ioint rate with the electric line :
. ESTERLINE. Yes; the court dismissed their petition and they
put the rate in the next day. -
Missouri Pacific Railway Co. v. The United States, United States
district court, eastern district of Arkansas, is a suit filed November
3, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission awarding reparation to
C. E. Ferguson Saw Mill Co. on certain shipments of lumber. A
motion was made for a preliminary injunction. That motion was
resisted on the ground that the court had no jurisdiction over the
subject matter; also that there was no equity in the petition. The
court—Circuit Judge Smith and District Judges Trieber and You-
mans—took jurisdiction of the case, but dismissed the petition for
want of equity. No appeal has been prosecuted in that case by the
railroad.
J. D. O'Keefe, Receiver, New Orleans, Texas & Mexico Railway Co.
v. The United States, United States district court, eastern district
of Louisiana, is a suit filed November 23, 1914, to enjoin the Order of
the commission fixing divisions for the tap lines in pursuance of the
decision of the Supreme Court of the United States in the so-called
Tap Line case. The carrier which brought the suit alleged that the
order prohibited it from allowing divisions as high as those allowed by
other carriers, and that it was in that way deprived of getting the
business from the tap lines which the tap lines controlled. There was
a motion for a preliminary injunction before Circuit Judge Walker
and District Judges Boarman and Foster. They denied the motion
and dismissed the petition. The railroad has announced that it will
appeal to the Supreme Court. The appeal has not yet been docketed.
Missouri, Kansas & Texas Railway Co. v. The United States, United
States District Court, Northern District of Texas, is a suit filed
December 7, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission in awarding
reparation to various shippers. The Government filed a motion to
dismiss for want of jurisdiction. There has been no hearing in that
case as yet. It will be heard sometime during the spring.
St. Louis, Iron Mountain & Southern Railway Co. v. The United
States, United States District Court, Northern District of Texas, is a
companion to the case to which I have just referred. +
Manufacturers’ Railway Co. v. The United States, United States
f)istrict Court, Eastern District of Missouri, is a suit filed December
10, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission directing that the
charges of the Manufacturers’ Railway Co., a subsidiary of the
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 803
Anheuser Busch Brewing Association, should not exceed per car for
shipments originating on or delivered to points on the É. of the
Manufacturers’ Railway Co. more than $2.50 a car. That suit has
just been commenced and the evidence will be taken during the next
month or so, and will then proceed to final hearing.
Manufacturers’ Railway Co. v. The United States, United States
District Court, Eastern District of Missouri, is a second suit brought
by that company and is a companion to the case last preceding. . .
Dorcheat Valley Railroad Co. v. The United 5tates, United States
District Court, Western District of Louisiana, is a suit filed Decem-
ber 11, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission fixing the divi-
sions between the trunk lines and the tap lines in pursuance of the
decision of the Supreme Court in the so-called Tap Line case. The
Government has filed a motion to dismiss the petition. No motion
for preliminary injunction has been served, and the order of the
commission is in effect. There will be a day fixed for the hearing
shortly. ~
Ashley, Drew & Northern Railway Co. v. James S. Harlan et al.,
commissioners, is a suit commenced in the United ...tates District
Court, Eastern District of Arkansas. They sued the wrong parties
in that case, and upon discovering it the railroad company volum-
tarily and hastily dismissed the petition before any action could be
taken by the Government. -
Duluth & Northern Minnesota Railway Co. v. The United States,
United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois, is a suit
filed December 14, 1914, to enjoin the Order of the commission fixing
rates on pulp wood from stations in Northern Minnesota to points in
Wisconsin and Michigan. That company made three points against
the order of the commission: First, it was not an interstate carrier at
all; second, there was no evidence to support the commission's order;
third, the order was confiscatory. On motion the court, Circuit Judge
Baker and District Judges Landis and Carpenter, granted the motion
for preliminary injunction. The case is set for final hearing February
23, 1915. We are now getting ready with the evidence and the briefs
to hear that case in Chicago on that day.
Illinois Central Railroad Co. and Morton Salt Co. v. The United
States, United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois, is a
suit filed December 18, 1914, to enjoin the order of the commission
directing the carriers to remove a differential of 4} cents on salt moving
from western Michigan and eastern Wisconsin, all rail, over salt mov-
ing from points on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan, lake and rail,
and to reduce that differential to 2% cents. A motion for a preliminary
injunction was heard at Chicago on December 3, 1914, and the court,
Circuit Judges Seaman and Kohlsaat, and District Judge Carpenter,
concurring, denied the motion for preliminary injunction. The case
is set for final hearing March 29, 1915. We are now preparing the
evidence and the briefs. The order of the commission is in effect.
Central Vermont Railroad Co. v. The United States, United States
District Court, District of Nebraska, is a suit filed December 21, 1914,
to enjoin the order of the commission directing the carriers to desist
from charging a higher rate on monumental granite than they charge
on building granite, the two granites being a like kind of traffic.
December 20, 1914, the court, Circuit Judge Smith and District
Judges Munger and Elliott, denied the motion for preliminary in-
804 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
junction, and that order is in effect. No action has since been taken
in that case.
Louisville & Nashville Railroad Co. v. The United States, United
States District Court, Western District of Kentucky, is the last case.
This is a suit filed January 5, 1915, to enjoin the order of the com-
mission directing the carrier to desist from charging a higher rate on
certain commodities to Lebanon, Ky., than it charges on similar
commodities to Junction City, Ky., the shorter haul with the higher
rate being included within the longer haul with the lower rate. No
motion for a preliminary injunction has been served and no action
has been taken in that case since the petition was filed.
The CHAIRMAN. One of those cases you said was a matter that was
being investigated by the Interstate Commerce Commission. Did you
appear in an official capacity before the commission in that case ?
Mr. ESTERLINE. Yes; only in the one case, . That is a case in which
the Department of Agriculture is interested in the rate. It came on
in the summertime, and I was asked to take hold of it, which I did—
that single case.
The CHAIRMAN. That was an exceptional matter? -
Mr. ESTERLINE. Yes; it was referred to me because I was handling
that line of work and was here then.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 there was $8,908 spent out of this appro-
priation. What have you expended this year?
Mr. ESTERLINE. To January 1, 1915, the following amounts have
been expended: Salaries covering that period, $4,034.75; expenses
during that period-–and this is approximate, because some of the
bills, I am told, are not yet in—$665.22; making a total of $4,699.95—
leaving a balance of $10,300.05.
Mr. Chairman, between January 1, 1914, and September 1, 1914,
the first eight months, only 5 of those suits were commenced, and the
expense incident to defending those suits was not very large. From
September 1, 1914, to January 5, 1915, the last four months, 15 of
those suits were commenced. This indicates the extent to which the
litigation is increasing and the consequent increase in the expense of
defending the litigation. For instance, during the month of Decem-
ber alone the expenses for railroad tickets, subsistence, and extra
clerical help approximated $320.63. Owing to the increase in the
number of these cases, an additional clerk and stenographer has been
requested for the office here in Washington, and if appointed that will
make the total salaries approximately $9,000 a year.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is the attorney who receives $5,000 a year?
Mr. ESTERLINE. There is no one on this appropriation receiving
that. Since October 3, 1914, this appropriation has been charged
with one special assistant to the Attorney General at $4,500.
The CHAIRMAN. What does he do . -
Mr. ESTERLINE. I am the special assistant who gets the $4,500.
The CHAIRMAN. There is one attorney given here at $5,000.
Mr. FSTERLINE. Half of which is paid from this appropriation ?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. ESTERLINE. That is not charged to this appropriation at all.
As I understand it, that is the case of a man who does considerable
work on interstate-commerce matters, such as indictments for rebates
and matters of that kind, and at one time it was suggested—I do not
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 805
think it has ever been done—that half of his salary should be paid
from this appropriation and half from another appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Were you formerly carried in the other appro-
priation. . *
Mr. ESTERLINE. I have been carried in this appropriation all along.
There is one attornev, at $1,500; one stenographer, $1,200; one mes-
senger, $720; altogether making a total of $7,920; and if there is an
extra stenographer appointed, the salaries will run the amount up to
nearly $9,000 per annum.
We have two furnished rooms in the Southern Building, which
we have had for nearly four years, and which we will continue to
occupy and use. There is a tremendous amount of work. We have
an actual total of $5,690 to be charged against this appropriation
between now and July 1, 1915. That much is certain, and if the
cases come in in the next two or three months like they have in the
past two or three months we will have to take on extra lawyers.
The Solicitor General has had general charge of this work and par-
ticipates in all of the cases in the Supreme Court and directs the work
in the district courts. The Department of Justice, through its repre-
sentative, actively appears with arguments and briefs in all of these
cases, before all of the courts, and represents the interest of the United
States, as provided by the statute. e
I think that estimate of $15,000 is a very reasonable one, gentle-
men. You can judge from the 15 suits which have been commenced
since September 1, 1914, about what we have ahead of us.
FEDERAL COURT REPORTS AND DIGEST.S.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Federal Court Reports and Di-
gests: For 180 copies of continuations of the Federal Reporter, as
issued, estimated as 10 volumes per year, to continue sets now fur-
nished various officials, at $2 per volume, $3,600.” This appro-
priation is to continue the existing sets 7 ... --
Mr. SHERWOOD. Yes, sir. That is to continue the distribution of
the Federal Reporter provided for in the Code, as far as the money will
permit us to go. -
LAwYERs' COOPERATIVE EDITION OF UNITED STATES REPORTs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For 15 copies of volume 59 of
the Lawyers' Cooperative Edition of the United States Reports, to
continue sets now in the hands of Čertain officers, at $6 per volume,
$90.” There are 15 of these sets :
Mr. SHERWOOD. Yes, sir; 15 sets. That is to continue the distri-
bution formerly made by the Interior Department and transferred
to our department under the code.
The CHAIRMAN. This is for the next volume *
Mr. SHERwooD. Yes, sir; the coming volume to be issued during
the coming year. -
. UNITED STATES REPORTS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For 270 copies of each of five
volumes, namely, 236 to 240, of the United States Reports,
to continue sets now in the hands of certain officials, at $1.75 per
volume, $2,362.50.” There were four volumes'
806 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. SHERWOOD. There have been four volumes, but last year they
issued an extra volume, which we did not estimate for, and in order
to bring the sets up to the current issue it will take an extra volume.
UNITED STATES COURTS.
SALARIES, FEES, AND EXPENSES OF MARSHALS AND THEIR DEPUTIES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For payment of salaries, fees, and expenses of
United States marshals and their deputies,” etc. The appropriation
is $1,530,000 and the estimate is $1,530,000. What was your unex-
pended balance in 1914%
Mr. KENNARD. The present unexpended balance for 1914 in the
Treasury is $22,579. This will probably be slightly reduced by later
claims. We must have in all the court appropriations a little margin
to do business; otherwise we are seriously embarrassed in the matter
of advancing or crediting the money to disbursing officers all through-
out the United States, including Alaska and Hawaii.
The CHAIRMAN. The estimate for salaries next year is $67,000 in
excess of the expenditures for 1914. How does that condition come
about 7 - g -
Mr. KENNARD. We have made a number of changes in salaries
nearly altogether in the way of providing additional deputy marshals,
and substituting office deputy marshals for field deputy marshals.
You will notice that the allotment for field deputy marshals has been
materially reduced. The policy is to do away with field deputy
marshals as far as practicable and consistent with good administra-
tion. There is danger of manufacturing unnecessary business and
making fraudulent charges; the temptation is very great to field dep-
uties and the whole fee system is more or less pernicious. We believe
it will be economy in the end and good business policy to have almost
entirely office deputies. The salary portion of this appropriation
is allotted under the law and we operate carefully within the allot-
ment. . .
The CHAIRMAN. What will be the effect of that policy of putting
such a load on the appropriation for permanent salaries?
Mr. KENNARD. In many cases the substitution of the office deputy
for the field deputy will bring about a reduction in cost. We have
endeavored to so arrange it.
The CHAIRMAN. It does not show that way here?
Mr. KENNARD. We are not asking for any more money and yet
we are disposing of an increased amount of business. The number
of cases commenced in the fiscal year 1914 was over 5,000 more than
in the preceding year, an increase of nearly 10 per cent, whereas we
are asking for no increase in the gross amount of the appropriations for
the courts and the department. The judicious appointment of office
deputies and their wise placement at various points throughout a given
district (within certain limits) will reduce the other items in this
classification, such as expenses of travel and subsistence. Of course,
it will reduce the fees of the field deputies where we appoint office
deputies instead, and also, if properly managed, will tend to reduce
the itent of $365,000 for expenses of travel and subsistence. It is a
very broad and complicated matter and it is difficult to get down to
any exact figures. ‘...
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Mr. GRAHAM. The policy pursued in the appointment of these
office deputies is not only based upon efficiency, but I think I can
say as a rule there has been a saving. Before making a change we
always refer to the cost on the fee basis, and in many instances—I
think most of them—there has been a saving in the actual cost. In
many of these districts, particularly in those where there are viola-
tions of the internal-revenue laws, it is very difficult to get the right
sort of a man to make the arrest working on the fee basis, because
the man does not get his pay unless he arrests the man, and he only
gets $2 them, and in many instances we have found it necessary, in
order to enforce the law, to put some of these deputies on a salary
basis and to take them off of the fee basis.
PASSENGER-CARRYING VEHICLES, MARSHAL's OFFICE, WASHINGTON, D. C.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to insert in this item the words
‘‘ also the expense of the purchase, maintenance, repair, and operation
of passenger-carrying vehicles used in connection with the transaction
of the official business of the office of the United States marshal for
the District of Columbia.” What passenger-carrying vehicles does
the marshal have 3
Mr. KENNARD. There are three passenger-carrying vehicles, one
large prison van and a small prison van (two-horse vehicles) and a
one-horse carriage. The vans are used continuously for transport-
ing prisoners to and from the courthouse and jail and the carriage is
j by the United States marshal and the United States district
attorney in the transaction of official business and frequently for
bringing into court invalid witnesses from various parts of the Dis-
trict who can not get in otherwise. In such cases they send the car-
riage for them. The amount which we should like to have inserted
to cover this cost is $4,640. I should like to file with the committee
this letter from the marshal showing what was spent in the different
items and what is the estimate for the next year?
The CHAIRMAN. Certainly.
(The letter referred to by Mr. Kennard follows:)
WASHINGTON, D. C., September 15, 1914.
The ATToRNEY GENERAL, *
JDepartment of Justice, Washington, D.C. |
SIR: I have the honor to submit the following estimates for the fiscal year 1916 in
connection with the horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicles used by this office for
the transportation of prisoners to and from the United States jail, United States court-
house, juvenile court, and the police court in this city, and also for transporting
invalid witnesses to and from their residences to the different courts in order that they
may testify; also, a statement of the expenses incurred during the fiscal year 1914
for like purposes:
1916. 1914.
2 drivers, at $720 per annum each. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,440.00 $1,440.00
Livery of 5 horses.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 1,346. 70
Repairs to vans and harness--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250. 00 61. 32
Shoeing of horses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250, 00 232, 20
Purchase of horses--------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600.00 . . . . . . . . .
Purchase of new prison Van. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600.00 . . . . . . . . .
| 4, 640.00 3,080. 22
Very respectfully,
MAURICE SPLAIN,
United States Marshal.
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Mr. KENNARD. I understand it is not definitely contemplated to
purchase any horses or a new van, but unless we have this provision
in the bill we will not be able to purchase them in case the horses die
or in case the van is disabled by an accident; so that these purchase
items are merely to meet possible contingencies. The matter is under
the control of the Attorney General, and the purchases would not be
authorized in any event unless they were deemed necessary and wise.
The CHAIRMAN. How long has the marshal had a carriage 7
Mr. KENNARD. It was purchased about 20 years ago.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it a one-horse carriage %
SUMMONING GRAND JURORS BY REGISTERED MAIL.
Mr. KENNARD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. One of the members of the committee asked me to
inquire of you about the feasibility of summoning grand jurors by
registered mail instead of personal service'. -
Mr. KENNARD. It is prescribed definitely how the jurors are to be
summoned in the new code, and we are following that closely.
The CHAIRMAN. I heard one member say that in his State they
summoned the jurors by registered mail.
Mr. KENNARD. We have to do it that way because the new law so
prescribes.
The CHAIRMAN. The law says you must 7
Mr. KENNARD. It says that we shall summon them by mail in cer-
tain cases. That is my recollection.
The CHAIRMAN. Please insert that provision in the record.
Mr. KENNARD. Yes, sir; we are following it closely. The provision
and law (36 Stat. L., p. 1165) in question reads as follows:
SEC. 279. Writs of venire facias, when directed by the court, shall issue from the
clerk's office, and shall be served and returned by the marshal in person, or by his
deputy; or, in case the marshal or his deputy is not an indifferent person, or is inter-
ested in the event of the cause, by such fit person as may be specially appointed for
that purpose by the court, who shall administer to him an oath that he will truly and
impartially serve and return the writ. Any person named in such writ who resides
elsewhere than at the place at which the court is held, shall be served by the marshal
mailing a copy thereof to such person, commanding him to attend as a juror at a time
and place designated therein, which copy shall be registered and deposited in the
post office addressed to such person at his usual post-office address. And the receipt
of the person so addressed for such registered copy shall be regarded as personal service
of such writ upon such person, and no mileage shall be allowed for the service of such
person. The postage and registry fee shall be paid by the marshal and allowed him
in the settlement of his accounts.
SALARIES AND EXPEN SES OF UNITED STATES DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For salaries of United States
district attorneys and expenses of Uhited States district attorneys
and their regular assistants,” etc., and the appropriation is $615,000
and the estimate is $626,000 % -
Mr. KENNARD. We are asking this small increase of $5,000 because
of the greater activity of the district attorneys in traveling from point
to point and the consequent increase in traveling expense. It is not
contemplated to alter the allotment for salaries in any way. There
will be for the fiscal year 1914 a deficiency of about $3,500, arising
solely on account of travel and office expenses. In fact, we did not
expend the entire allotment for salaries that year and used what was
left over for the expense allotment, still leaving a slight deficiency of
about $3,500.
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The CHAIRMAN. I do not see how you could create a deficiency in
that item' g &
Mr. KENNARD. The expenses are provided for, definitely, by law
and arise, in a measure, automatically. In his own district the
district attorney travels on his own motion, according as business
may require. We can not tell just what the amount of his expense
- i`i. nor can we definitely determine the cost for telephone and
telegraph service, especially the long distance telephone service.
The CHAIRMAN. For the current year will there be a deficiency?
Mr. KENNARD. I have not been able to determine the status for the
current year. We will know in about 10 days. For 1914 there is a
deficit of about $3,500. As I understand it, this deficit arises under
the operation of the law providing for travel and office expenses. We
keep closely within the allotment for salaries.
Mr. GRAHAM. I will say, Mr. Chairman, that we have sent out
notices to all the district attorneys cautioning them against running
up expenses in the way of traveling expenses and office expenses,
and requesting them to reduce them wherever possible and notifying
them that we will keep strict watch upon it, and at the end of each
º comparison will be made to see how far they come within the
OI’CleI’.
FEES FOR UNITED STATES DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA. -
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For fees for United States
district attorney for the District of Columbia,” and the appropriation
is $28,940, and the estimate is $28,940% ‘. - -
Mr. KENNARD. That is the statutory amount fixed by definite
legislation. |
T.EGULAR ASSISTANTS TO UNITED STATES DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is ‘‘For regular assistants to United
States district attorneys, who are appointed by the Attorney General
at a fixed annual compensation,” and the appropriation is $350,000,
and the estimate is $350,000 %
Mr. KENNARD. We are not asking for any increase under this
appropriation. It provides only for the fixed compensation of
assistants regularly employed in the offices of the district attorneys.
PAY TO SPECIAL ASSISTANTS TO ATTORNEY GENERAL AND UNITED
STATES DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For assistants to the Attorney
General and to United States district attorneys employed by the
Attorney General to aid in special cases,” etc., and the appropriation
is $220,000 and the estimate is $220,000. What was the amount
expended in 1914, $149,888.32%
r. HARRIS. $151,048.08; that is down to January 1, and includes
subsequent payments after the estimate was submitted.
The CHAIRMAN. You figure that you will need $220,000 next year?
Mr. HARRIs. The same amount we have this year, $220,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You had $220,000 in 1914, and you have a balance
of nearly $150,000. *
Mr. HARRIS. We are still paying on 1914 for the reason that the
Attorney General has decided that instead of fixing regular salaries
810 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
or regular compensation for many of the special assistants, they shall
be paid an amount to be determined by the Attorney General upon
the completion of their services, and he then fixes the compensation
on the value of the services rendered and not upon annual salary.
It works a decided saving to the Government in fixing the compensa-
tion in this way.
To December 31, 1914, inclusive, there was paid from the 1914
appropriation $142,548.08, leaving a balance of $57,451.22, and out
of the deficiency appropriation for 1913 and 1914, $8,500, leaving a
balance of $11,500, and we are still paying out of both these appro-
priations for services rendered in those years. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a statement showing what has been paid
in this way 7
Mr. HARRIs. I have a statement of the amount paid out of the 1914
appropriation to December 15, when this statement was prepared.
That includes those paid for regular salaries.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 $80,700 was paid to attorneys with fixed
compensation, and you estimate that there will be spent in 1916
$83,700 %
Mr. HARRIs. This is divided upon the basis of compensation as
near as possible at this time and based upon like expenditures in
previous years.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the expenditure under this appropri-
ation in 1913 Ž
Mr. KENNARD. Approximately $197,000 was expended under this
appropriation for the fiscal year 1913. There is a balance of about
$3,000.
Mr. GILLETT. What particular branch is this money spent under 7
Mr. HARRIs. Those cases in which, in the opinion of the Attorney
General, we should have a special attorney; some one other than the
regular United States attorney. Sometimes the United States attor-
ney is disqualified or his official business will not permit him to handle
it because of the magnitude of the case.
Mr. GILLETT. Have you a statement of the payments which have
been made under this appropriation ?
Mr. HARRIs. Yes, sir. This statement shows the expenditures out
of the appropriation for 1914 and out of the appropriation for 1915
down to December 15. - -
Mr. GILLETT. Are most of these cases that run along from year t
year or are they new cases, largely 7
Mr. HARRIs. Some of them are rather old cases and some of them
DeW CàSeS.
Mr. GILLETT. Do many of them require large payments, counsel of
high order 7
Mr. HARRIs. They do require counsel of high order, but no excep-
tional amounts are paid.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you call exceptional, such as in the other
cases, $1,000 a month t
Mr. HARRIs. I think the largest amount is $5,000 per annum. No;
there is one man who receives $6,000, $500 a month.
Mr. GILLETT. And another one at $12,000 %
Mr. HARRIs. Two at $12,000 each; one-half is paid out of the appro-
priation for special assistants and one-half out of the appropriation
for Pacific Railroad cases.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 811
Mr. GILLETT. Are they cases that are running right along?
Mr. HARRIs. Yes, sir. The Pacific Railroad litigation has been run-
ning for some time; they are southern California oil-land cases in
the districts of California involving property to the value of upward
of $200,000,000. .
Mr. Giºrſ. Has there been any change in counsel there within
the last two years?
} * HARRIS. There was a change of one attorney about a year and a
laſſ ago. -
Mr. GILLETT. After the new administration came in .
Mr. HARRIs. Yes, sir. - g
i. GILLETT. Have there been other changes in the last year and
a half
Mr. HARRIs. No, sir; with that one exception, I do not think there
has been any. - -
Mr. KENNARD. Mr. Mills and these men were employed before this
administration came in.
Mr. HARRIs. Mr. Mills is the man drawing a salary of $6,000 out
of this appropriation. He has been in the employ of the department
for the last five or six years. He is also employed in suits involving
title of the United States to lands in Arkansas.
Mr. GILLETT. As this seems to be a regular thing, why should these
people not become a part of the regular service' Is there any reason
why they should not . . .
Mr. HARRIs. They are cases of such magnitude that we could not
get competent counsel to try them — — .
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). These are cases of such size that the
ordinary force of the 㺠would not be equal to the work?
Mr. HARRIs. I think so. - e -
Mr. MONDELL. I notice in this statement of the amounts paid spe-
cial assistant attorneys under this item you have this name, “James
C. Crawford, spécial assistant to the Attorney General, Pacific Rail-
road cases.” How did that employment come to be made out of this
appropriation rather than out of the appropriation for the prosecu-
tion of those cases' -
Mr. HARRIs. I think he was first employed in connection with other
suits, but he has been detailed for some time on the Pacific Railroad
cases. I do not think his first regular employment was in connec-
tion with Pacific Railroad cases. -
Mr. GILLETT. As to these men who get $12,000—does this wor
take all of their time'. *
Mr. HARRIs. Yes, sir. Neither of them live out there. Their
homes are not on the Pacific coast nor at the places where court is
held. Neither one lives where the cases are being tried nor where
they are pending. One is from North Carolina and one from
Nebraska. -
Mr. GILLETT. Is his home in North Carolina º
Mr. HARRIs. Yes, sir; and one of them has his home in Nebraska.
They are on Government cases all the time.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you know why they do not get counsel in the
locality ? You do not know, of course, the motives that actuate the
department
Mr. HARRIs. No, sir. -
Mr. GRAHAM. There are many circumstances connected with these
cases that have governed in the selection of counsel.
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Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Pay
of special assistant attorneys, United States courts, 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1914.
[Includes all payments to Dec. 15, 1914.]
Amounts paid.
southern.
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary.
º Expenses. Total.
Armbrecht, William H.....| Special assistant to Attorney General. United States v. Butler Searcy et al., and other cases. To be determined. . . . . . . $1,733.33 $38.99 || $1,772.32
Arnold, Henry N. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wanamaker case and United States v. Wisner et al...... 0- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8,500.00 959.50 9,4
Bick, Louis R. ------------|----- :9: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - United States v. Wisner et al. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Expenses only. ---------|----------- 61. 55 61.55
Boyle, John N. . . . . . . . . . . Sºlº, assistant attorney, New York, Glickstein v. United States. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not exceeding $50 in all. 50.00 - - - - - - - - - - 50.00
SOUll, Ileſ Il. * - -
Bretschneider, H. E. . . . . sº. assistant attorney, Oklahoma, Anadarka Indian Agency investigations.... . . . . . . . Expenses only. ---------|----------- 153.50 153.50
- WeSLeTD.
Brown, Raymond G.2. . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General. Uº. sº v. A. L. Wisner & Co. et al., New || To be determined. . . . . . . 1,450.00 |.......... 1,450.00
. Ork, SOUlthern.
Burch, Marsden C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do:--------------------------- .... White £arth indian land litigations, Minnesota. -- $5,000 per annum. - . . . . . 1,374.99 456.15 1,831. 14
Butler, L. C.------------- Special assistant attorney, Louisiana, United States v. New Orleans & Pacific R. R. et To be determined. . . . . . . 300.00 l.......... 300.00
western. . al., Louisiana, Western.
Cain, Gordon. . . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General. White Earth Indian land fraud cases.............. $250 per month.......... 2,850.00 || 474.68 3,324.68
Canfield, Irvin S. . . . . . . . . sº assistant attorney, Michigan, United States v. Frank W. Fletcher. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not exceeding $50 in all. 50.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 50.00
eastern. -
Childs, Robert W. . . . . . . . sº assistant attorney, Illinois, Food and drug cases. . . . . . . . . . . . .................. To be determined. . . . . . . 3,581. 41 |.......... 3,581. 41
northern. - ---
Cobb, James A. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, District of Assistance in collection of forfeited cognizances in $2,000 per annum........ 2,000.00 |- - - - - - - - - - 2,000.00
Columbia. police court, District of Columbia, and Supreme
Court, District of Columbia, and aid in certain
* food and drugs cases. -
Coles, Malcolm A - - - - - - - - Special assistant attorney, New York, United States v. E. W. Bliss Co. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Expenses only. ---------|----------- 83.80 83.80
eaStern. - - .*
Crawford, James C. - - - - - - Special assistant to Attorney General... Pacific Railroad cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,750 per annum.... . . . . 2,062.50 1,941.39 4,003.89
Cressy, Merton S. . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, Illinois, United States v. Economy Light & Power Corpora- || $250 per month.......... 250.00 |.......... 250.00
northern. tion and United States v. Sanitary District, Chi-
Cago.
Crim, John W. H. - - - - - - - Spººl assistant attorney, New York, Pure-food cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . To be determined....... 250.00 l.......... 250.00
Southern. - - -
Daly, Walter F. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, Colorado. ... Public-land investigations; Colorado. . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,400 per annum........| 2,400.00 377.70 | 2,777.70
Denman, William - - - - - - - Special assistant to Attorney General. - Oil-land cases in California and Wyoming. . . . . . . . . $7,500 per annum.... . . . . 4,458.33 711, 76 5, 170.09
Dorr, Goldthwaite H. . . . . . . . . . . . do------------------------------- United States v. Hawthorne et al. . . . . . .---------- To be determined. . . . . . . 2,000.00 |.......... 2,000.00
Douglas, Walter C. . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, Pennsyl- | United States v. Emil Gerstel and William E. $3,250 per annum, not 812.51 - - - - - - - - - - 812.51
vania, eastern. tº º º Gehry. exceeding 3 months.
Dunnigan, H. L.”........ Special assistant attorney, California, United States v. May K. Rindge et al. . . . . . . . . . . . . To be determined....... 1,000.00 |.......... 1,000.00
É
Fink, Albert. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Freeman, Henry N. . . . . . . .
Garland, Wm. H. ...........
George, J. W. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Glass, James R---. . . . . . . . . .
Hall, Frank. .... . . . . . . . . . . .
Harris, H. R., jr. . . . . . . . . . .
Harvey, A. M..............
Hicks, A. P.--------------.
Herndon, Chesley C........
Igoe, Michael L. . . . . . . . . . . .
Jennings, John, jr..........
Johnson, Ligon*------.....
Justice, jºi........... -
Landon, Thad B. . . . . . . . . . .
Lee, Frank. --------------.
Lindsay, Alexander, jr. . . . .
Lutz, Henry E.......... - - -
Special assistant attorney, Illinois,
northern.
Special assistant attorney, Mississippi,
Southern.
Special assistant attorney, Illinois,
northern.
Special assistant to Attorney General.
Special assistant attorney, Illinois,
northern.
Special assistant attorney, Kansas.....
Special assistant attorney, Michigan,
eastern.
Special assistant attorney, Oklahoma,
€2.SUCTIOl.
Special assistant attorney, Illinois,
northern.
Special assistant to Attorney General -
Special assistant attorney, Missouri,
Western.
Special assistant attorney, Oklahoma,
eastern.
Special assistant to Attorney General. .
McAdoo, F. H------------- - - - -
McCórmick, A. I..........:
McDaniel, Löck............
Matthews, Wm. C. ........
Maynard, Fred A..........
Mayes, Edward, an - Mayes,
Robert B.2
Mills, Willis N. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Special assistant attorney, Texas,
... Southern.
sº assistant attorney, Massachu-
SettS.
Special assistant to Attorney General.
Special assistants to United States
attorney, Mississippi, southern.
Special assistant to Attorney General..
A $2,500 paid from 1913–14 appropriation for $20,000.
2 $1,000 paid from 1913–14 appropriation for $20,000.
* $3,000 paid from 1913–14 appropriation for $20,000.
* * * * *
... - C10.
United States v. Dwight Manufacturing Co........
Timber depredation cases, Mississippi, Southern---
Cases assigned by United States attorney. . . . . . . . .
|United States v. Hammond et al., postal-law cases.
Cases arising under postal laws....................
United States v. Wildcat et al. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Assist in cases assigned by United States attorney.
Land cases under Weeks forestry act, Tennessee,
western.
Anaconda Mining Co. and Timber Trust cases.....
United States v. Southern Pacific Ry. Co.; United
States v. Oregon California Ry. Co.; and land-
grant cases in California and Oregon.
Wendell v. United States; Trent v. United States;
Missouri Pacific Ry. Co. v. United States.
To assist in criminal cases before Government judge
at Chickasha.
Assault on United States attorney, by one Mc-
|Bride, in Federal building at Honolulu.
United States v. Denver & Rio Grande, and other
C2S6S.
Stone, Sand & Gravel Co. v. United States. . . . . . Q =
California oil-land cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * *
United States v. Mont J. Moore et al. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Various cases in district of Massachusetts. . . . . . . . . .
United States v. Union Land Co. et al.; United
States v. Marble, Iron & Coal Co.; United States
v. Carbon, Fuel & Iron Co.
TJnited States v. J. C. Masters and Thos. H. Sibley.
|United States v. Southern Pacific R. R. Co. et al...
$208.33 per month.......
To be determined - - - - - - -
$250 per month..........
$2,500 per annum........
On account, $4,000 per
3DIllll Iſl. -
$175 per month. . . . . . . . . .
To be nominal. ----...--
Not exceeding $100 in all.
$3,500 per annum... . . . . .
$2,500 per annum... . . . . .
To be determined. . . . . . .
= < * * * *.*.*.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$2,000 per annum... . . . . .
$2,250 per annum... . . . . .
To be determined.......
$3,500 per annum.... . . . .
$2,000 per annum........
Not exceeding $4,000 per
2.Illlllldºl.
To be determined - - - - - - -
$1,600 per annum........
$4,000 per annum... . . . . .-
To be determined . . . . . . .
On account; $4,000 per
aIllllllll.
1,423.14
2,499.96
708. 34
2,491.66
1,652.78
5,166.67
2, 100.00
250.00
100.00
875.00
1,652.78
583.35
§§
372.23
1,500.00
3.10.00
1,925.00
833.33
3,422.21
66.67
1,600.00
2,000.00
1,000.00
4,333.33
720. 04
15.85
1,901.27
* * *s tº e s tº dº sº tº
* * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * *
sº tº e = * * * * * *
* - - e º º 'º º º &
gº & sº º sº * * * * *
1,427.39
2,499.96
708. 34
3,211.70
1,668.63
7,067.94
2,100.00
276.00
100.00
980. 76
1,652.78
583.35
3,027.50
2,743.79
421.63
1,651.55
3.10.00
1,925.00
833. 33
4,278. 11
66.67
1,600.00
2,152.00
1,000.00
7,334.19
4 One-half paid from the appropriation and one-half from appropriation protecting interests of United States in suits affecting Pacific railroads, 1914. See separate statement.
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Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appropriation “Pay
- of special assistant attorneys, United States courts, 1914,” for the period from July 1, 1913, to June 30, 1914–Continued.
Amounts paid.
Stansbury, David D. . . . . . .
United States v. International Harvester Co.; pos-
tal law cases. ..º
Name. Title. Cases in which employed. Salary.
*...* Expenses. Total.
Miller, Charles W. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General...] United States v. Frank N. Ryan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . To be determined. . . . . . . $500.00 | . . . . . . . . . . $500.00
Mitchell, James R. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - United States v. Sam B. Perrin. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $3,000 per annum... . . . . . 625.00 |... -- - - - - - - 625.00
Morrow, Edwin P.......... Special assistant attorney, Virginia, United States v. John Hall, Hunt Hall, Sol Hall, Expenses only . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ‘. . . $48.57 48. 57
. . . *x. Western. and Eſarlan Eſall. - -
Mullen, W. E.------....... Special assistant attorney, Wyoming...] United States v. Hamilton E. Hall. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . To be determined. . . . . . . 250.00 |... . . . . . . . 250.00
Nichols, Clarence W. . . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General. United States v. Frank N. Ryan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,500 per annum. - - - - - - 208.33 |. . . . . . . . . . 208. 33
Norton, William A..... ----|----- do-------------------------------- Indian land frauds in Minnesota. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On sºunt; $250 pe 3,000.00 88.33 3,088.33
. IIloill, ſl.
O’Brien, Edward C. ... -----|- . . . .'do-------------------------------- White Earth Indian land matters and other-cases $200 per month. . . . . . . . . . 2,400.00 2,746.05 5,146.05
involving Indian lands. -
Palmer, Archibald. . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, New Jersey. Uº. States v. Terem, Moore, Topock, and Weis- Nº. exceeding $100 in 100.00 |.......... 100.00
erg. 8.11.
Parkin, Harry A. - - - - - - - - - - Special assistant attorney, Illinois, United States v. Illinois Central R. R. Co., Philip Not exceeding $500 in 325.00 ||---------- 325.00
northern. Blum v. Jacob Wexler, and other cases. - all.
Pier, Earl H. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . sº assistant attorney, California, Assisting United States attorney, California, north- || $180,55 per month....... 716. 18 l. . . . . . . . . . 716. 18
northern. €II1. -
Pike, Frederick A. . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General. White Earth Indian land litigation, Minnesota.... $250 per month.......... 3,000.00 99.41 3,099.41
Poisson, L. J.” -------------|----- do-------------------------------- Assisting E. J. Justice in 911 matters.-------....... $2,400 per annum. . . . . . . 416.66 |.......... 416. 66
Powell, Robert... . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, Mississippi, United States v. George Ross, United States v. Not exceeding $300 in 300.00 |... ------. 300.00
- Southern. Peter Bryant, United States v. Wheeler Ward. all. -
Pratt, Addison S. . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General. United States v. Sherman & Sons Co.............. To be determined....... 900.00 1.50 901. 50
l&abb, Fred C--------------|----- do- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Assisting B. D. Townsend in all matters. . . . . . . . . . $2,000 per annum. . . . . . . 500. 00 629.33 1,129.33
Regan, Edward Alfred. . . . . Spººl assistant attorney, California, United States v. Lyman et al. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,500 per annum. . . . . . . 1,013. 89 |. . . . . . . . . . 1,013. 89
SOUILIle]]]. -
Riddell, Charles F. . . . . . . . . Special assistant attorney, Washing- || United States v. Meyer, Kittlewell, Carter, Gold- | Not exceeding $4,500 per 337. 50 . . . . . . . . . . 337. 50
4. ton, western. berg, and Silverton, and other cases. annum. .
Roche, Theodore J . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to Attorney General...] United States v. Western Fuel Co., and United To be determined....... 5,000.00 205.00 5,205.00
. States v. Diggs-Caminetti, California, northern.
Runyon, W. Cleveland-----|- . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. Federal Sugar Refining Co., New . . . . . do------------------ 700.00 |. . . . . . . . . . 700. 00
- York, southern. - - - ©
Rush, Sylvester R. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. E. R. Mason et al., F. C. Grable, $5,000 per annum. . . . . . - 5,000.00 | 1,571.77 6,571. 77
John S. Cussack, and J. R. Cunningham. - *
Seekell, Arthur M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- White Earth Indian investigations. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $200 per month... . . . . . . . 600, 00 120. 78 720. 78
Sheridan, James M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. A. C. Frost et al., and other cases. $250 per month... . . . . . . . 3,000.00 772.38 3,772.38
Smyth, C.J.". -------------|----- do-------------------------------- United States v. Oregon-California R. R. Co. . . . . . . $1,000 per month. . . . . . . . 1,566.67 453.94 || 2,020.61
Stahl, William S. . . . . . . . . . . sº assistant attorney, Illinois, United States v. A. Íſ. Freeman et al........I. $250 per month... . . . . . - - 391. 67 |... - - - - - - - 391. 67
northern. r
* * * * * do-------------------------------- $4,000 per annum. . . . . . . 3,633.34. 1.60 || 3,634.94
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Street, Oliver D. . . . . . . . . . . . | sº assistant attorney, Alabama, To assist in 14 peonage cases... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Expenses only . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . S3. 68 S3. 68
| SOU thern. -
Sullivan, Matthew I. . . . . . . Special assistant to attorney general...] United States v. Western Fuel Co., United States | To be determined. . . . . . . 5,000.00 - - - - - - - - - - 5,000.00
yº - † j : v. Diggs, Caminetti, California, Northern.
Tellier, J. A.---------------|----. do-------------------------------- United States v. Three States Lumber Co. et al. . . $2,500 per annum. - - - - - - 2,500.00 464. 55 2,964. 55
Townsend, B. D. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. Southern Pacific R. R. Co., Ore- On account; $450 per | 1,350.00 630.85 1,980.85
gon-California land-grant cases. month.
Truesdell, John F. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Truckee–Carson irrigation project. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On account; $4,000 per | 3,999.99 || 1,654.89 5,654.88
* * h 2.Illllllll. r
Ward, Ethelbert. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Suits affecting water rights for Government in $3,000 per annum. . . . . . . 2,816.66 872.25 3,688.91
. behalf of Indians. -
Total disbursements... --------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 127,223.75 |23,374.73 |150,598.48
1 One-half paid from the appropriation and one-half from appropriation protecting interests of United States in suits affecting Pacific railroads, 1914. See separate statement.
Appropriation, 1914
Deficiency, 1913–14
Total appropriation
Unexpended balance................................................. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
• - - - - - -, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a, e = e = * ~ * * * * * * * * = a. s. * * * * * * * * * * * * * = = e a s = < e = * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * = e = * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Total disbursements. ... :----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *2- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
s sº a s sº sº º ºs s a s = e < * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$200,000.00
20,000.00
220,000.00 -
150,598.48

69,401.52
#
‘Statement of amounts paid to special assistants to the Attorney General and to special assistants to United States attorneys from the appro
priation ‘‘ Pay
of special assistant attorneys, United States courts, 1915,” for-the period from July 1, 1914, to Dec. 15, 1914.
Name.
Title,
Cases in which employed.
Salary,
Arnold, Henry N. . . . . . . . . .
Boyle, John N. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bretschneider, H. E.... . . . .
Brown, Raymond G . . . . . . .
Cain, Gordon..... . . . . . . . . . .
childs, Robert W..........
Cobb, James A. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Crawford, J ames c * * * * * * * * *
Daly, Walter F. . . . . . . . . . . .
Daniels, C. C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Dorr, Goldthwaite H. . . . . . .
Freeman, Henry W. . . . . . . .
French, Asa P - - - - - - - - - - - -
George, J. W. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Glass, James R. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hall, Frank. . . . . . .º
IHarris, H. R., jr...... . . . . . .
Herndon, Chesley C. . . . . . . .
Huddy, George H.--------.
Hull, Roger B. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Special assistant to the Attorney
General.
Special assistant United States at-
torney, New York, southern.
Special assistant United States at-
torney, Oklahoma, western.
Special assistant to the Attorney
gºal.
- - - - - *** * * * * * * - - - - - - - - e. e. e. • - - - - - - - - * * * * * - - -
Special assistant to the Attorney
General.
Special assistant United States at-
torney, Colorado.
Special assistant to the Attorney
General. -
Special assistant United States at-
torney, New York, southern.
Special assistant tjnited States at-
torney, Illinois, northern.
Special assistant to the Attorney
General.
Special assistant United States attor-
ney, Mississippi, Southern.
Special assistant United States attor-
ney, Illinois, northern.
Special assistant to the Attorney
General. -
Special assistant United States attor-
ney, Illinois, northern.
Special assistant United States attor-
ney, Oklahoma, eastern.
• * * * * *-** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
A. L. Wisner v. United States
United States v. American Sugar Refining Co.;
United States v. Myers et al.
United States v. N. A. Brown et al
e e - - - - - - * * * * * * * *
Anadarko Indian cases
• - - - - - * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - * * * * * *
* * * * * * - - - - - - -, -, * * * * * - -
White Earth Indian litigation
Oleomargarine cases -
Pure-food cases
* * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
* * * - - - - - - - - e. e. e s - - - - - - - - - e s = * * * *
- * * * * * * * - - - - - - - * * * * * * - - - - - - - - as a m = - - -
Pacific Railroad matters -
Public-land cases
- - - * * * - - - - - - - - - * * * ~ * - - - - - - - - e º e º - -
White Earth Indian litigation in Minnesota
Appeal of Freeman v. United States...............
United States v. Freeman et al.; United States v.
Jelke et al.
|United States v. John A. Fish
- * * se e s - - - - - - - - - e. e. * * * *
Timber Lands Cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
United States v. James M. Maples; United States
v. Chas. Greve; and other cases, -
Montrose Eardware Co.-DeLaman, Central Pacific
and other Cases.
Western Cantaloupe Association and other cases. . .
Crosley & Wrightman v. Brewer, Baker & Central
National Bank; United States v. Walter Fergu-
Son et al.
Atlantic Bank cases
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
On account; $500 per
month. - -
To be determined. . . . . . .
Expenses Only . . . . . . . . . .
$150 per month. . . . . . . . . .
$250 per month. . . . . . . . . .
$25 per day..............
$2,000 per annum. -- - - - - -
$2,750 per annum... . . . . .
$2,400 per annum. -- . . . . .
$6,000 per annulm-- - - - - - -
To be determined.......
$208.33 per month.......
$500 in all ..
• * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$2,500 per annum........
$3,500 per annum. . . . . . . .
$2,500 in all....------...--
$358.33 per month.......
Amounts paid.
*...* | P:s. | Total.
$2,500.00 || $373.97 $2,873.97
500.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 500.00
- - - - - - sº e s s º 67. 55 67. 55
750, 00 53.50 803. 50
291. 67 46.54 338.21
1,563.33 455.58 2,018.91
833.33 |- . . . . . . . . . 833. 33
1, 145.83 901. 14 2,046.97
800. 00 182. 60 982. 60
550. 00 24.81 574. si
- - - - - - * * * * * 16.35 16.35
1,041.65 . . . . . . . . . . 1,041.65
500.00 12.81 * 512.81
1,250.00 527.07 | 1,777.07
1,041.66 - - - - - - - - - - 1,041.66
2,083.33 434.34 2,517.67
1,008. 33 |. . . . . . . . . . 1,008.33
1,458.33 65. 18 1,523.51
500.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 500, 00
656, 94 400, 62 | 1,057. 56
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Igoe, Michael L - - - - - - - - - - - Special assistant United States attor- 28-hour-law cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,500 per annum...... -- 1,041.66 25.10 | 1,066.76
- ney, Illinois, northern. - -
Justice, E. J.”............. Special assistant to the Attorney | United States v. Oregon-California Railroad Co.; To be determined.......| 2,688.50 154.96 2,843.46
General. . | United States v. Southern Pacific Railroad Co. - | . -
Lee, Frank... . . . . . . . . . ... --| Special assistant United States attor- Criminal cases coming before the grand jury at $2,250 per annum........ 375.00 56.11 431. 11
fe ney, O. lahoma, eastern. Chickasha. - -
Lindsay, Alexander, jr Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- Grand jury proceedings growing out of assault of To be determined. . . . . . . 190.00 |. . . . . . . . . . 190.00
eral. *:i.§. upon United States attorney in l'ederal *
ullCllſ.g. -- - -
Lutz, Henry E. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States v. Woods, and other matters. . . . . . . . $3,500 per annum....... 1,458.33 5.39 1,463. 72
McCormick, A. I. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do--------------------------------| United States v. Midway Northern Oil Co.; United | Not to exceed $4,000 per 333.33 140. 22 473. 55
- States v. McCutcheon et al. 8.Illill IIIl. - -
Matthews, William C. . . . . Special assistant United States attor- | Assisting Unived States attorney in all matters as- || $1,600 per annum. . . . . . . * 666.66 13. 65 680. 31
e Iney, Massachusetts. signed. * -
Mills, W. N. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant to the Attorney Gen- Unied States v. Southern Pacific Co. et al.; United $6,000 per annum.......| 2,500.00 | 1,045.09 || 3,545.09
* eral. r Sta es v. lee Wilson et al. -
Noland, George. . . . . . . . . . . Sºlºnt United States attor- United States v. Dial Chiloquin...... * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * Not to exceed $50 in all. . 50.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 50.00
- ney, Oregon. . -
Norton, William A... . . . . . sº assistant to the Attorney Gen- White Earth Indian litigation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... $250 per month. . . . . . . . . . 875.00 .44. 11 919. 11
€T3,I. e - -
O’Brien, Edward C. . . . . . . ------do-------------------------------- tº: States v. Tucker et al.; and White Earth $200 per month... . . . . . . . 600.00 621.56 1,221.56
- - dian matters.
Phipps, Foster V. . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States attor- Assisting United States attorney... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,250 per annum. . . . . . . 375.00 144. 39 519. 39
g . ney, Oklahoma, eastern. r
Pier, Earl H. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Special assistant United States attor- |..... do-------------------------------------------- $180. 55 per month. . . . . . . 180.55 |. . . . . . . . . . 180. 55
& mey, California, northern. . f
Pike, Frederick A. . . . . . . . . spººl assistant to the Attorney Gen- | White Earth Indian matters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $250 per month... . . . . . . . 1,250.00 37.24 1,287.24
- el 3.1. - -
Poisson, L. J.1 . . . . . . . . - - - - - | - - - - - do-------------------------------- Assisting E. J. Justice... . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ - $200 per month. . . . . . . . . . 500.00 18. 20 518. 20
Runyon, W. Cleveland.....|..... do-------------------------------- Feleral Sugar le efining Co. case. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . To be de.. ermined - - - - - - -}. . . . . . - - - - - 11.90 11.90
Rush, S. R. -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Everglade land cases. . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On account; $5,000 per | 2,083.33 360.03 || 2,443.36
- 8.Ill-ll Iſl. ! . -
Sheridan, James M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- |United States v. Saunders et al. . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . . $250 per month.......... 1,250.00 99.52 | 1,349.52
Smith, Charles W. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- Litigation on behalf of Indians in Minnesota....... $200 per month... . . . . . . . 306.67 200.34 507.01
Smyth, C. J."---------------|----. do-------------------------------- º ; v. Or, gon-California R. R. Co., and $1,000 per month........ 2,500.00 448.46 || 2,948.46
- - Other matters. - - -
Stahl, William Sherman...] Special assistant United States attor- | United States v. A. H. Freeman et al..... * * * * * * * * * $250 per month.......... 1,000.00 |.......... 1,000.00
- - - -- ney, Illinois, northern. i. * . * *- : *- : - - - * g
Stansbury, David B. . . . ...|-....d6. .................. • - - - - - - - - - ... International Harvester Co. investigation...... ...; $4,000 per annum...... 1,666.66 |. . . . . . . . . . 1,666.66
Stephenson, Robert P..... - Special assistant United States attor- | United States v. Jam 's Realty Co.; Unit=d States | $3,300 per annum........ 550.00 l. . . . . . . . . . 550.00
- iney, New York, southern. v. W. m. L. Mitchell; United States v. Albart T. -
- - . . . * : * * • Saunders. - - | . . *— — .
Tellier, J. A........... • • - - Spººl SSistant to the Attorney Gen- || Mississippi County lake cases....... ** = • * * * * * * * ~ * ... $2,500 per annum........| 1,041.66 286.54 1,328.20
. | CT2,1. - -
Thomas, M. A.............l..... do-------------------------------- Hawaiian Island cases... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * e * * * * * * * * * To be determined....... 793.33 |... . . . . . . . 793. 33
Truji, John P----------|----. do-------------------------------- Truckee-Carson-irrigation project....... ** * * * * * * * * * * $4,000 per annum.... . . . . 1,333.33 370.68 1,704.01
Ward, Ethelbert. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do-------------------------------- United States irrigation and power water litigation. $3,000 per annum........] 1,250.00 217.82 | 1,467.82
Total.----------------|----------------------------------------|----- …l.…. 45,333.41 7,863.37 53, 196.78
| Paid one-half from this appropriation and one-half from Pacific Railroad appropriation. See statement under that appropriation.
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FEES OF CLERRS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For fees of clerks, $250,000.”
That is the amount of the current appropriation. What was ex-
pended in 1914?
Mr. KENNARD. In 1914 there was expended up to January 1,
$214,141.38. This should not be taken to represent the total expenses
for the year, however, as settlements covering fees of clerks are un-
avoidably delayed for many causes. The method of settlement is
exceedingly complex. There are semiannual returns, and earnings
from individuals and corporations to be considered. Probably the ox-
pense for 1914 will º $250,000. There has been a material
reduction, as you will notice, in the expense under this item since
the abolition of the circuit courts. In 1912 there was over $300,000
actually expended, and in 1913 the expenditures were approximately
$245,000; which is probably nearly complete. For 1914 they will
probably reach $240,000. -
FEES OF COMMISSIONERS AND JUSTICES OF THE PEACE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For fees of United States com-
missioners and justices of the peace acting under section 1014, Re-
vised Statutes of the United States.” The current appropriation is
$120,000 and your estimate is $120,000. -
Mr. KENNARD. The expense under this appropriation, as contra-
distinguished from “fees of clerks,” is increasing. As the fees are
fixed by law, this simply means that a larger number of cases are
being brought before commissioners. We will have to report quite a
deficiency under this item for 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. How much has been expended ?
Mr. KENNARD. We have expended all of the appropriation and
have a deficiency which will probably amount fo $25.000. There
was $115,000 appropriated and the expenses will undoubtedly run
up to about $140,000. *
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the cause of that % What has been
the cause of such large expenditures?
Mr. KENNARD. We have more cases, more hearings; more people
are brought before the commissioners. The statistics of business
transacted in the United States courts show conclusively that there
has been a large increase. These statistics are published in the
report of the Attorney General. -
FEES OF JURORS,
The CHAIRMAN. For fees of jurors the current appropriation is
$1,125,000 and your estimate is $1,150,000. You expended under
this item in 1914, $1,116,916.94.
Mr. KENNARD. It is, of course, problematical what the expense
for jurors in 1915 will be, but everything indicates that it will be at
least as great and probably greater than it was in 1914. You will
notice that we were so close to the total amount in our expenditures
that we had no margin for the transaction of business; that is, no
banking margin for advances to disbursing officers, and we suffered
great embarrassment thereby. We have reported for 1916 what we
thought was a fair and honest estimate of the money that will be
needed in view of the information we have on hand.
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FjöES OF WITNESSES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “For fees of witnesses and for
payment of the actual expenses of witnesses, as provided by section
850, Revised 8tatutes of the United States, $1, 50,000.” The cur-
rent appropriation is $1,100,000. - . .
Mr. KENNARD. The appropriation for the current year is mani-
festly too small. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why?
Mr. KENNARD. I say too small, although I have not quite com-
pleted the tabulation of the expenses for the first six months, because
from various sources we note evidence of increasing business, while
our appropriation is less than the actual expenditure for 1914, which
was approximately $1,716,000.
The CHAIRMAN. That was all you asked for.
Mr. KENNARD. I assume that it is all we asked for.
The CHAIRMAN. That is no evidence that it is manifestly too small.
Air. KENNARD. We probably should have asked for more. We
have issued a circular warning all the district attorneys, among other
things, to be exceedingly cautious in subpoenaing witnesses, asking
them to subpoena only a sufficient number of witnesses to make the
case sure and only those who really know something of value about
the case. It may be that this will result in a decreased expense. We
propose to put them on their records in this respect ——
Mir. MonTELL (interposing). In this item is it important that you
should have something of a balance in order to avoid the danger of .
not having enough money at Some particular point when the sums
become due 3
Mr. KERNARD. It is not only important that we should have a
balance to meet a contingency of that kind, which is liable to arise
at any time near the close of the fiscal year, but it is also quite impor-
tant that we should have a balance sufficient to enable us to promptly
pay the witnesses without waiting until money has come back from
other districts. We can not tell in advance, nor can the marshal
nor district attorney tell in advance, exactly how much will be needed
to pay witnesses, and as the close of the fiscal year approaches it
becomes, in the absence of a working margin, a crucial question how
to make advances. - -
Mr. Mond ELL. This is a more variable item in the various districts
than the other items of appropriation here?
Mr. KENNARD. It is more variable, I should say, than any other
item.
Mr. MondELL. Therefore if you remit just enough to cover the
actual ordinary expenses, and there is a little extraordinary expense
somewhere, you are short'
Mr. KENNARD. Exactly.
Mr. MONDELL. This is what I have in mind: There are some classes
of appropriations where you can estimate very closely, because you
can use the last dollar; but there are some classes of appropriation
where it is not practicable to do that, and this is that sort of an
appropriation.
Mir. KENNARD. This is decidedly one where it is impracticable to
estimate closely and exactly. I might cite one illustration of it:
820 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Several years ago there were some important banking cases to be
tried in Alaska—I think at Fairbanks, although I may not be accu-
rate about that. On account of the disqualification of the judge
the venue was changed, and the cases were tried at Valdez, as I
recollect, which necessitated the bringing of the witnesses overland.
The additional cost arising from that one item was between $40,000
and $50,000. To show you the further uncertainty of the matter,
we came before the committee and secured the money necessary to
bring these witnesses overland, but near the close of the fiscal year
the cases were postponed until the next fiscal year. We did not,
therefore, need the money as provided, the expense being carried
over to the next fiscal year. So this is a very uncertain item, and I
would suggest the possible expediency of making it a permanent and
indefinite appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. We will not give you that.
RENT OF ROOMS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, ‘‘For rent of rooms for the
United States courts and judicial officers, $64,000.”
Mr. KENNARD. This is one appropriation where we can come
pretty close to what we need. We can not do it exactly, but we can
do it far better than in the appropriations for fees of witnesses and
jurors. I have brought a list with me showing just where we rent
and how much we pay. The increase from $20,000 to $64,000,
which appears in that fund, is due largely to the rent of additional
qual ters in New York City in order to dispose of the accumulated
business there. The committee is probably aware of the circum-
stances incident to that rental. We were specially authorized to
lease for a term of years.
(The list referred to is as follows:)
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
821
Statement showing the liabilities wmder the appropriation “Rent of court rooms, United
States courts, 1915, '' as of Jan. 5, 1915.

City or town. State or Territory. º City or town. State or Territory. º
Craig----------------- Alaska. ----------- $180 || Globe- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arizona... -------. $1,800
Pouglas--------------|--... do------------ 240 || Los Angeles. . . . . . . . . . Cal.fornia. . . . . . . . . 660
St. Michael... . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 180 || Montrose. . . . . . . . . . . . . Colorado. . . . . . . . . . 300
Kiana................l..... do------------ 240 || Denver. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 240
Candle-----------....l..... do------------ 180 P0---------------|----- do------------ 2,250
Seward. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [..... do------------ 600 Do---------------|----- do------------ 840
Katalla-----------...}..... do------------ 120 Do---------------|----- do------------ 1, 170
Chitina--------.......]..... do------------ 180 || Eſonolulu. . . . . . . . . . . . Hawaii. . . . . . . . . . . 4,200
Naknek-----.........|..... do------------ 180 || Coeur d’Alene. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 2,400.
Rodiak-----------...l..... do------------ 240 || Pocatello- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - do------------ 100
Unga------------.....l..... do------------ 180 || Bºllings.------....... Montana - - - - - - - - - - 250
Cathenda............l..... do------------ 360 || Missoula. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 1,200
Cordova..............l..... do------------ 180 || Littleton-...---- . . . . . . . New Hampshire. . 450
SeWard-------........|..... do------------ 180 || Albany. . . . . . . . . . . . . . New York. . . . . . . . 640
Knik.................l..... do------------ 120 || Utica. . . . . . . .........l..... do------------ 600
McCarthey...........|..... do------------ 300 || New York. - - - - - - - - - -] . . . . . O- - - - - - - - - - - - 14,675
Tanana--------......l..... do------------ 240 || Minot 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . North Dakota.- 600
Ruby----------------|--... do------------ 450 || Ardmore. . . . . . . . . . . . . Oklahoma. . . . . . . . 2,000
Chatinika............!..... do------------ 200 || McAlester 2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ ,2
Iditarod................... do------------ 600 ulsa.---------------|----- do-----------. 2,000
Nulato-------............. do------------ 150 || Chickasha. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 500
Wiseman. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 480 || Muskogee 3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 5,000
Fort Yukon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 150 || Vinita 4- - - - - - - . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 300
Georgetown..........|..... do------------ 600 || Medford. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oregon. ---------- 330
Flat City.............|..... do------------ 300 || Pendleton. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 240
Hot Springs..........|..... do------------ 270 || Sunbury. . . . . . . . . . . . . Pennsylvania..... 216
Iditarod... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 300 || Amarillo. . . . . . . . . . . . . CXaS- - - - - - - - - - - - - 180
Ruby-------.............. do-----------. 300 || Corpus Christi. . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 1,800
9phir----------------|----. do------------ 390 || Brattleboro. . . . . . . . . . Vermont. . . . . . . . . . 325
Circle.----------------|----. do------------ 48 || Philippi- - - - - - - - ------ West Virginia. . . . . 420
Tucson............... Arizona. ---------- 2,400 Do---------------|----- 0- - - - - - - - - - - - 240
Prescott... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . do------------ 1,800
Total rent roll to-day, $59,464.
1 Federal building will probably be occupied in 7 months.
3 Federal building will probably be occupied this month.
3 Federal building will probably be occupied in 4 months.
4 Plus $10 per day during sessions of court.
BAILIFFS AND CRIERS.
r
The CHAIRMAN. For bailiffs and criers the current appropriation is
$275,000 and your estimate is $275,000.
Mr. KENNARD. And our expenditures are very close to the amount
appropriated. The items are fixed by law.
MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES.
The CHAIRMAN. For miscellaneous expenses the current appropri-
ation is $550,000 and your estimate is $550,000.
Mr. KENNARD. This appropriation is somewhat in line with those
for fees of witnesses and fees of jurors in the matter of the uncer-
tainty of the amount absolutely necessary. We are endeavoring to
reduce the expenses as much as possible by cautious procedure, and
we are asking for no increase.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice that you have here S
field force of the Public Lands Division.
ix employees in the
Mr. KENNARD. Those are employees in the field, as stated, con-
nected with the execution of the public-lands work of Mr. Knaebel's
division.
What class of employees are they
We can tell you where they are located, if that is the
point of the inquiry.
The CHAIRMAN.
822 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. KENNARD. They are clerical employees altogether. No legal
employments can be made under this appropriation.
he CHAIRMAN. Where do you employ these two engineers at
$1,500 %
Mr. KENNARD. My recollection is that they are in Alaska, where
we have public buildings to care for.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you expended of this appropriation
$489,527.86.
Mr. KENNARD. That is the approximate amount of the expendi-
ture, but we are passing accounts every day covering delayed items
which are drifting in from various parts of the United States and
which will ultimately consume a large part of the unexpended balance.
These are accounts of masters in chancery, accounts for storage, and
various other delayed items.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is this employee at $12 a year'. I refer to
this clerk---to Raymond G. Brown.
Mr. FISHER. He is the stenographer to a special assistant to the
Attorney General, who is blind. This clerk is paid $12 per annum to
assist Mr. Brown in connection with his appointment as special
assistant to the Attorney General. It is clerical work.
Mr. GILLETT. Is Raymond G. Brown blind?
Mr. FISHER. Yes, sir; I understand he is blind.
Mr. GILLETT. How long has he been in the service'
Mr. HARRIs. He has been in the service about a year and a half
or two years. He was formerly a clerk in the United States attorney's
office for the southern district of New York. He worked up the
case against Wisner for use of the mails to defraud. That was a
most difficult and most involved case, and they thought it would be
much cheaper to retain him, with his knowledge of that particular
case, until it was disposed of than to employ new counsel to make a
search of the records and prepare it.
Mr. GILLETT. This man who is blind worked up the case?
Mr. HARRIs. Yes, sir; he worked it up before he lost his eyesight,
and he has been retained until the close of that case. The defendants
were convicted in the trial courts, and the case is now pending in the
court of appeals.
Mr. GILLETT. What does he receive 3
Mr. HARRIs. $1,800 per annum.
Mr. KENNARD. I might say in reference to this employee here under
miscellaneous expenses that the special assistant really pays the man
who helps him, but we put him on the roll at the nominal sum of $12
a year in order to avoid the acceptance of voluntary service by the
Government. His real compensation is paid by the special assistant.
Mr. GILLETT. I notice that you have 10 deputy clerks in Alaska;
where do you need as many as that ?
Mr. KENNARD. You will notice that they are distributed through-
out four divisions. We have four divisions of the court, with four
independent clerk's offices.
Mr. GILLETT. Does this include the whole force :
Mr. KENNARD. Yes, sir; in so far as paid from this fund. The
court appoints the deputies. They would be paid from funds in the
hands of the clerks of court if such funds were adequate. There is a
provision under which we may, if such funds are inadequate, pay them
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 828
from this º: The funds in the hands of the clerks of
court are used largely for election purposes, and hence we have to pay
the deputy clerks out of this appropriation.
SUPREME COURT OF UNITED STATES.
The CHAIRMAN. Inotice that certain employees in the United States
sºme Court are carried here; are they not paid out of fees and
COSt.S
Mr. KENNARD. No, sir. The expenses of the Supreme Court of the
United States, º the statutory salaries of . judges, marshal,
and stenographic clerks to the judges, are paid out of this appro-
priation. -
The CHAIRMAN. The clerk is not ? -
Mr. KENNARD. Specific appropriation is made in the legislative
bill for the judges, the º and the stenographic clerks. The
clerk of º Court is not paid out of this fund. None of the
expenses of the clerk's office are paid from this fund. This appro-
priation is used for salaries in the marshal’s office and the expenses
of the court, exclusive of the office of the clerk. These are paid by the
marshal on the order of the court. You will remember that there
was a proposition up at the last session to make separate appro-
priations
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). In whose office are these people in
the employ of the Supreme Court of the United States, listed on page
484 .
Mr. KENNARD. For the main part, they are in the marshal's office.
That is my impression, but I will not be *. as to all of them.
Some are employed to render service to the judges. Some of them
are pages. There is a chief clerk, librarian, and other miscellaneous
employees. n
Mr. CourTs. The clerk of the Supreme Court is paid out of fees
and fines, his compensation being limited not to exceed $6,000 a year. .
Mr. KENNARD. We do not pay anything for the clerk's office here.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is this chief clerk 3
Mr. KENNARD. That is the chief clerk in the marshal’s office.
The CHAIRMAN. He appears here as Chief Clerk of the Supreme
Court. -
Mr. KENNARD. That may be somewhat misleading. I presume it
is. It should read chief clerk in the office of the marshal of the Su-
preme Court, at $2,400.
SUPPLIES.
The CHAIRMAN. For supplies the current appropriation is $35,000
and your estimate is $40,000. What is the necessity for that increase ?
Mr. SHERWOOD. Mr. Chairman, that appropriation has remained
unchanged since it was originally made in 1889 and the business of
the courts has increased very largely all over the country since then.
We have requests almost daily for labor-saving devices—such as
computing machines, adding machines, long-carriage typewriters,
etc.—which we have been obliged to refuse. That has caused in-
creased expense in clerk hire, some of the officials having claimed that
with labor-saving devices they would not need additional help. We
824 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
supply blank forms and dockets to the officers of the courts out of
that appropriation, together with stationery, typewriting machines,
and other things of the kind, and we find it extremely difficult to
fill the requisitions. g
There are over 400 offices furnished with various miscellaneous
supplies, including stationery, etc. Dockets are also supplied, the
cost of printing and binding thereof, approximately $12,000 per
annum, being necessarily paid from this appropriation. Revolvers,
handcuffs, leg irons, etc., are very costly and need replacing from
time to time. The $35,000 is no longer adequate.
SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1915.
STATEMENTS OF MR. F. H. DUEHAY, SUPERINTENDENT OF
PRISONS, AND MIR. C. H. McGLASSON,
SUPPORT OF PRISONERS.
The CHAIRMAN. For support of United States prisoners; the appro-
priation is $500,000, and you are asking for $550,000. What is the
necessity for this increase ? - - .
Mr. McGLASSON. The expenditures for the fiscal year 1914 were
$582,661. .
The CHAIRMAN. Where did you get the additional $12,661 ;
Mr. McGLASSON. Our appropriation was $500,000, and we got a
deficiency of $70,000, and we expect to ask for a further deficiency.
We are holding up some bills in the department awaiting the second
deficiency. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many prisoners did you have in 1914%
Mr. McGLASSON. This appropriation is used to support prisoners
in county jails, and also #. in State penitentiaries. We prepare
our statistics on the basis of the number of days’ subsistence fur-
nished, and for the fiscal year 1913 the number of days’ subsistence
of the jail prisoners was 589,000 days.
The CHAIRMAN. What are they . -
Mr. McGLASSON. They are the men in jail awaiting trial as well as .
those sentenced for short terms, less thin One year in jail. For the
fiscal year 1914 the number of days' subsistence was 674,000.
The cost of jail prisoners, however, increased crly from $484,000 to
$512,000, and the per capita cost was reduced from 82 cents to 76
cents. I have here a table showing the cost in each district for sub-
sistence, medical attention, clothing, and so forth.
The CHAIRMAN. This includes both the prisoners in State peniten-
tiaries and the prisoners in Federal penitentiaries'
Mr. MCGLASSON. No, sir; there is a separate item at the bottom
of the statement showing the cost for the State penitentiaries.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean the figures you have given me.
Mr. MoGLAssoN. No; they relate entirely to jail prisoners either
awaiting trial or serving short sentences.
The CHAIRMAN. In State institutions or Federal institutions :
Mr. McGLAssoN. In county jails and county workhouses,
The CHAIRMAN: What else do you have 2
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Mr. McGLASSON. We have the prisoners in the State penitentiaries
serving long sentences. For 1913 the cost of the penitentiary pris–
oners was $26,000 and in 1914 the cost was $70,600.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is that ? -
Mr. McGLASSON. We had more prisoners confined in State institu-
tions in 1914. - .
The CHAIRMAN. How does that figure in days? . -
Mr. McGLASSON. I can not give the number of days' subsistence for
the State penitentiaries. I could give you the number confined in
State institutions. In 1913 there were 470 prisoners confined in State
penitentiaries. In 1914 there were 937, and on January 1, 1915, the
number was 866. It has gone down slightly, because we are now
sending the prisoners to the Federal prisons. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why did you not do that in 1914%
Mr. McGLASSON. Our accommodations are increasing at the Leav-
enworth prison and we are able to take care of more prisoners there.
We hope by the 1st of next July to be able to take care of 1,600 in
the Leavenworth prison, and that accounts for the reduction in the
estimate of the appropriation under the expenses.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you reach the conclusion that you want
$550,000% What is it estimated will be required this year 7
Mr. McGLAssoN. Our expenses this year will be about the same as
1914; but for 1916 they should be less on account of the use of the
Federal prisons. The expense of the jail prisoners will probably go
up, but we hope to hold the total expense down by having our #j
work properly looked after by field agents. ,
LEAVENWORTH, KANs., PENITENTIARY, CONSTRUCTION.
|See p. 830.]
The CHAIRMAN. Leavenworth, Kans., penitentiary: For continu-
ing construction of Leavenworth, Kans., penitentiary the appropria-
tion is $100,000, and you are asking for $150,000. What is the situa-
tion at the prison now % -
Mr. McGLAssoN. We hope to complete what we call the new east
main cell wing, so that the wing may be occupied by the first of the
coming July. That will provide accommodations for from 500 to 700
prisoners, and it will save the Government the cost of keeping those
prisoners in State penitentiaries. As I said a few minutes ago, we
hope to have 1,600 prisoners in Leavenworth during the fiscal year
1916. There are now there only about 1,090. I might say we are
nearing the completion of the Leavenworth construction work.
The CHAIRMAN. What is this particular money to be used for Ž
Mr. McGLAssoN. Thirty thousand dollars is to be used for the pur-
chase of steel to be used in the fabrication of cells for the west main
cell wing. There are two main cell wings and two subsidiary cell
wings. The two subsidiary cell wings have been completed some
years since, and the east wing is nearing completion, and the west
wing is well under way. Fifty thousand dollars for stone, cement,
and sand for the west wing; $25,000 for stone, steel, sand, cement,
and lumber for the administration building; $20,000 for the salaries
of the civilian construction employees, fuel, and water; $5,000 for
architects’ commissions; and $20,000 for miscellaneous items, such
as tools and general building supplies.
826 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Is the central cell building completed 3
Mr. McGLASSON. There is no central cell building.
The CHAIRMAN. You call it the east wing 7 -
Mr. McGLASSON. The east wing is nearing completion. As I said,
we hope to occupy that by the 1st of July, possibly sooner.
The CHAIRMAN. Under the appropriations you have already had 3
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What other wing is completed 3
Mr. McGLASSON. The west wing is the one we are working on.
The CHAIRMAN. When will that be completed, or in what stage of
completion is that wing -
. McGLAssoN. That is not under roof yet. We are running up
the steel work on that wing and carrying a long the stone facing and
backing up with brick. That wing will probably not be ready for
Occupancy for at least two years. -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the situation with regard to the adminis-
tration building . -
Mr. McGLAssoN. We have not started that building other than the
foundation. We have done nothing beyond that on the administra-
tion building. We have left that building until last, because that
will be the front building of the institution. This is a plan of the
institution [indicating on map). These are the subsidiary wings
which were built first and this is the east wing and this is the main
West wing. This is the rotunda and the administration building
will come out here [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. That building has not been commenced yet 7
Air. MicGLAssoN. The foundations have been laid.
The CHAIRMAN. When were they laid : -
Mr. McGLASSON. Some years back, possibly 10 years or more ago.
There has to be a certain amount of work done on these buildings so
that these other buildings could center on them.
The CHAIRMAN. What else has been done there now %
Mr. McGLAssoN. All of these buildings have been erected, the
dining room, the chapel, the kitchen, cold-storage plant, bakery,
consumptive hospital, the general hospital, storehouses and deputy
wardens' offices, power plant, brick plant, stone shop. Here is the
Fº department. The wall of that is about completed,
ºthing outside of the foundation has been done on the building
itself.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you expect to put up a building there?
Mr. McGLAssoN. It is to be a building inside of this inclosure.
This is a wall here inclosing a considerable piece of ground, and the
building itself will be located there. It is intended that it shall be
a self-contained institution.
The CHAIRMAN. If it were decided that nothing should be done
except to continue the work on the west wing, how much money is
needed ?
Mr. McGLAssoN. There would have to be taken off $25,000 for the
administration building. -
The CHAIRMAN. That is for material alone?
Mr. McGLASSON. It would require the same number of civilian
iºn whether we worked on all the buildings or only on a part of
the]]].
The CHAIRMAN. How much is the administration building to cost 3
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 82';
... Mr. McGLASSON. It is to cost about $100,000 in material, and that
does not contemplate the value of the prison labor. Adding on the
value of the labor it will be worth $253,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is not that the basis on which you estimate the
architects’ fees? -
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is in addition to what has already been done,
is it . ... •
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes; there has been very little done outside of
the foundation work.
The CHAIRMAN. What employees have you in the two items for
salaries of construction employees? I notice you provide for $20,000
at Leavenworth and $14,400 at Atlanta. . -
Mr. McGLASSON. We have at Leavenworth a superintendent of con-
struction who gets $2,500 a year; a brickmaker, $1,200; a bricklayer,
$1,200; a carpenter, $1,200; a stonecutter, $1,200; a tinner, $1,200;
and an engineer in charge of the penitentiary engine and who also has
charge of the unloading of Supplies from the cars, an engineer and mis-
cellaneous foreman, $1,200. } believe that is all.
- lº CHAIRMAN. Do you mean that he has charge of the penitentiary
ant, -
p Mr. McGLASSON. No; he has charge of the penitentiary locomotive
engine, the hauling of shale from the shale pit, and the hauling of Sup-
plies to the brick-burning plant. We have a little railroad there about
a mile long running from the brick plant out to the shale pit. &
The CHAIRMAN. Those salaries only total $10,000, and you estimate
$20,000. * - -
Mr. McGLASSON. I overlooked the night brick burner, at $900; the
foreman blackSmith, $1,200; and a temporary foreman averaging half-
time, at $1,200 per year. The balance is for forage, coal, and water
at Leavenworth. - .
Mr. MoRDELL. Is that about the least sum you can keep your
organization going on; that is, you need about this much material if
yº going to keep the kind of an organization you have there at
WOI’K
Mr. McGLASSON. It is not so much the keeping of the organization
at work as it is the early completion of the buildings so that we will
have the maximum capacity. . . - -
Mr. MONDELL. That is from your standpoint. Now from the
standpoint of the appropriation, do you . this much in order to
keep your men busy %
Mr. McGLASSON. No, sir; we can keep the men going on half that
much but it will simply mean that the completion of the institution
will be that much further off.
Mr. MONDELL. If you are going to employ a foreman for each one of
these purposes, it seems to me necessarily you ought at least to have
enough work so that the foreman is kept reasonably busy looking
after the men. . -
The CHAIRMAN. What is the business of the superintendent of
construction ? -
* MCGLASSON. He has general charge of all the construction
WOTR. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What was his business formerly 7
828 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. McGLASSON. He was formerly assistant superintendent. We
formerly had a superintendent and an assistant. We dismissed the
superintendent and after some months tryout appointed the assistant
to his place and then appointed no new assistant.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean what was his business before he was doing
this work?
Mr. McGLAsson. I believe some 10 or 12 years back he was a stone
cutter or stone setter or a stone foreman of some kind. -
ATLANTA, GA., PENITENTIARY, CONSTRUCTION.
$ [See p. 838.]
The CHAIRMAN. “For continuing construction, Atlanta, Ga., peni-
tentiary,” the appropriation is $75,000 and you are asking for
$75,000. What is the situation at Atlanta ?
. Mr. McGLAssoN. At Atlanta we are completing the construc-
tion — - .
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Have you a plan of the Atlanta
buildings? .
Mr. McGLASSON. No; I have not. It is quite similar to the
Heavenworth layout. We have two subsidiary wings down there
built some years ago and we are now on the west main cell wing.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you finished the east wing 3
Mr. McGLASSON. No; we have got up the first course on the east
wing, but we have devoted most of our energies to the west wing
in an endeavor to complete it so it can be occupied. The shell of
the wing is about done. There remains, however, to be installed the
cell block, and we have enough money available now from prior
appropriations to buy the plumbing and toilet fixtures which will
cost $25,000, and also to buy the steel for the cells. We expect to
fabricate our own cells as we did at Leavenworth and save some
money to the Government. It will be about a year or a year and a
half before we can occupy that west wing. -
Mr. MoRDELL. What work do you contemplate under this appro-
priation ? -
Mr. McGLAssoN. There will be $6,000 expended for forage, water,
and coal. º -
The CHAIRMAN. Is that a construction item 7
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir; the forage is for the construction mules
and horses. Fourteen thousand four hundred dollars will be ex-
pended for the salaries of the construction employees; $2,500 for
architects’ commissions; $30,000 for material for the east wing.
The CHAIRMAN. I thought you were working on the west wing.
Mr. McGLAssoN. We are closing up on the west wing.
The CHAIRMAN. You said it would take a year and a half or so.
Mr. McGLAssoN. It will take a year and a half to install the cell
block and the plumbing in the cells. The building itself is about
completed. The last item to complete this estimate is $8,000 for
heating apparatus for the west wing. &
The CHAIRMAN. At Atlanta, what have you in the way of an
organization ? &
Mr. McGLAssoN. We have a superintendent of construction there
at a salary of $2,000. He is acting as sup?rintendent although his
title is still assistant. We have an agent for the warden at $1,500.
The CHAIRMAN. What is that ?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 829
Mr. McGLAssoN. That is a special place created for a former
county sheriff who lost his position because he saved a negro from
the fury of a mob, and he was appointed to this position.
The CHAIRMAN. What does he do on this construction work?
Mr. McGLASSON. He is a sort of general all-around man. He
does anything that may be assigned to him.
The CHAIRMAN. How long has he been there 3
Mr. McGLASSON. He has been there a number of years. He was
first appointed in 1909.
The CHAIRMAN. What else have you?
Mr. McGLASSON. We have a foreman of granite cutters who gets
$2,000; a foreman of stone setters, at $1,500; a blacksmith, at
$1,200; a carpenter, at $1,100; a plumber, at $1,200; a bricklayer,
at $1,500; . two general foremen who get, I believe, $1,200 apiece.
The CHAIRMAN. Why is it that you have so many foremen there .
and so few at Teavenworth'.
Mr. McGLASSON. I can not say just why we have more foremen
there. The new superintendent of prisons is giving a great deal of
his time to these pay rolls and has made some reductions, but I
think he has gotten it down about as far as he can now.
The CHAIRMAN. Have any been eliminated?
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Who has been eliminated .
Mr. McGLASSON. Well, at Leavenworth the superintendent, who
was a $3,000 man, has been eliminated and a new superintendent at
$2,500 takes his place, and that eliminates an assistant superinten.
dent who formelly got $2.250. There have also been eliminated
at Leavenworth a foreman of the stone-sawing plant at $1,200, a
Superintendent of steel work at $2,000, and I think one or two other
foremen have been eliminated. *
The CHAIRMAN. What has been eliminated at Atlanta?
Mr. McGLASSON. At Atlanta we eliminated a superintendent of
construction at $2,700, a timekeeper at $1,320, an assistant forcman
of carpenters at $1,000, and I think one general foreman.
The CHAIRMAN. What are your balances under both of these
appropriations? -
Mr. McGLAssoN. At Leavenworth on October 1, which is the
last report I have, the balance was $71,000; at Atlanta, on January
1, the balance was $111,000. That Atlanta balance may look large,
but there will have to be paid out of that the expense of plumb-
ing for the west wing and the expense for the purchase of steel for
the fabrication of the steel fronts to the cells.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any considerable amount of material
on hand at either one of these places? -
Mr. McGLAssoN. No, sir. We only buy from month to month,
or rather, have deliveries made from month to month as we need
them for construction. We have on hand stone, sand, and cement
in fair quantities.
M’NEIL ISLAND, was H., PENITENTIARY; PURCHASE OF LAND.
- [See p. 840.]
. The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “McNeil Island, Wash., peniten-
tiary: For purchase of additional land, $10,000.” How much land
do we own on that island 7 - -
830 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. McGLAssoN. We own 87 acres.
The CHAIRMAN. And what is it desired to purchase ? - -
Mr. McGLAssoN. It is desired to purchase $10,000 worth of land
that the warden says can be had for $150 to $250 am acre.
The CHAIRMAN. What will we do with it 2 -
Mr. McGLASSON, Use it for obtaining additional water and for
raising forage. - - .
The CHAIRMAN. What is the per capita cost of maintaining the
prisoners at the McNeil Island penitentiary 7
Mr. McGLAssoN. At McNeil Island, because of the isolation of the
institution, we have to house and feed the guards and officers. The
per capita cost, including the cost of feeding the guards and officers,
was 69 cents for 1914, and excluding the cost of the guards and offi-
cers, the per capita cost was 64 cents.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is it at the other prisons?
Mr. McGLAssoN. At the Atlanta prison for the fiscal year 1914 the
per capitä, cost was 70.2 cents, and at Leavenworth the per capita
COSt. was 67 cents.
The CHAIRMAN. How many acres of ground do you contemplate
purchasing . - -
Mr. McGLASSON. We have not decided on any precise number of
acres. The warden says that the cost will be from $150 to $250 an
8,CI’ê.
‘The CHAIRMAN. Have you a map showing what is contemplated 3
Mr. McGLASSON. We have not picked out any particular land. We
hope to buy some land adjoining the present reservation. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many prisoners have you there'.
Mr. McGLASSON. We have 225 at the present time.
The CHAIRMAN. And you have 87 acres?
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir; 13 of the 87 acres are prison yard proper.
Mr. MoRDELL. You asked for an appropriation to purchase some
land last year?
Mr. McGLAssoN. No, sir. I think we asked for $20,000 for begin-
ning the building of a wall around the institution,
LEAVENWORTH, KANS., PENITENTIARY.
[See p. 825.]
STJBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “Leavenworth, Kans., peniten-
tiary: For subsistence, including supplies from the prison stores for
warden, deputy warden, and physician, tobacco for prisoners, kitchen
and dining-room furniture and utensils, seeds and implements, and
for purchase of ice, if necessary,” and the appropriation is $60,000,
and the estimate is $76,500%
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. What did you say the per capita cost at this
institution was, 67 cents
Mr. McGLAssoN. Sixty-seven cents for the fiscal year 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. That includes what %
Mr. McGLAssoN. Everything; every item of expense of every
nature, salaries, clothing, food, etc.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you expend in 1914?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 831
Mr. McGLASSON. In 1914 the expense, under the head of “Sub-
sistence” was $74,981. Our average population for the year was
only 1,020 and, as I have said before, the average population for
1916 we expect will be 1,600. - -
The CHAIRMAN. That will take 600 out of the other prisons'
Mr. McGLAssoN. It will take out about 600. . -
The CHAIRMAN: Why should not the appropriation for supporting
United States prisoners be very considerably less next year 7 •
Mr. McGLASSON. There are two reasons. One is that a part of
the 600 prisoners will be District of Columbia convicts, and another
reason is that the population of all the prisons is increasing. Our
prison º is going up at the rate of 222 a year. That figure
is based on the average for the last four years ?
The CHAIRMAN. Where do you send the District of Columbia.
prisoners now % - -
Mr. McGLASSON. At the present time we are sending the male
prisoners to the Federal Penitentiary at Atlanta and the female
prisoners to the Maryland Penitentiary at Baltimore. -
The CHAIRMAN. The female prisoners would still go there?
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir; to Baltimore.
The CHAIRMAN. Your District of Columbia prisoners would not
add anything in the way of numbers on the accommodations in the
Federal prisons; you shift them from Atlanta to the other prison 3
Mr. McGLAsson. We shift them from one institution to another.
The CHAIRMAN. You are going to have accommodations for 600
additional. Why should the prisoners in the outside institutions.
cost as much as during the current year, when you will have accom-
modations for 600 additional?
Mr. McGLASSON. We do not expect that they will cost as much.
We estimate $550,000 for support of prisoners in 1916, as against
$582,000 expended last year. -
The CHAIRMAN. There will be 600 less prisoners to be taken care of
in outside institutions. º - - -
Mr. McGLAssoN. There ſexhibiting] is a table showing the distribu-
tion of prisoners, which I think will explain that. º
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you had 937 prisoners in State institutions 3
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And on January 1, 1915, you had 866 prisoners?
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. If you allow for an increase in your prison popu-
lation of 250 a year you still have accommodations for 350 additional
prisoners in the present Federal prisons. . That will reduce your
present State prison population by almost 50 Fº cent, say 35 per
cent. Why do you figure that the expense will be almost as much
as it was to maintain the prisoners in 1914%
Mr. McGLAssoN. The increased number will be greater than 250.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you know? You figure on 222%
Mr. McGLAssoN. In June, 1914, our number was 3,200, and by
June, 1916, two years from that, it will be 3,650. That will allow for
900 prisoners in Atlanta, 1,600 in Leavenworth, 225 in McNeil
Island, 125 in the National Training School for Boys, 140 in the Gov-
ernment Hospital for the Insane, and 660 in State institutions. The
reduction of the number in State institutions will only be from 937
in 1914 to 660 in 1916, a reduction of about 275.
S32 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not see that. You only have 860 now and
you said that your average increase a year was how much 3
Mr. McGLASSON. Two hundred and twenty-two.
The CHAIRMAN. Allowing 250 for this year, next year you will get
accommodations for 600 additional 7
Mr. McGLASSON. Not 600 additional over what the population is
now, but 600 over what the population was in 1914. The population
at Leavenworth now is 1,100. -
The CHAIRMAN. You said 1,020 %
Mr. McGLAssoN. For 1914 it was 1,020.
CLOTHING, TRANSPORTATION, AND TRAVELING EXPENSEs.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For clothing, transportation,
and traveling expenses,” etc., and the appropriation is $25,000, and
your estimate is $28,500. That is based on what?
Mr. McGLAssoN. In the estimate for “clothing and transportation,”
there is an increase of $3,500. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is that based on an increase in the population ?
Mr. McGLAssoN. That increase will partly cover the increased
population. The $3,500 increase will not cover the entire increase
in population. The balance will have to come from credits from the
District of Columbia, which is another proposition altogether.
AMERICAN PRISON ASSOCIATION, EXPENSES OF ATTENDING.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to insert in this item, “Expenses of warden
attending sessions of the American Prison Association, and the
Wardens' Association, when authorized to do so by the Attorney
General” .
Mr. McGLAssoN. The Federal wardens for many years have been.
members of the American Prison Association, and last fall, for the
first time, they did not attend the sessions of that association because
of the recent prohibition against payment of the expenses by the
Government. The Wardens' Association and the American Prison
Association are units of the International Prison Association which
Congress has recognized by an appropriation of $20,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement of what it
costs for those men to attend the meetings.
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir. -
The American Prison Association and Wardens' Association held their annual
moeting for the calendar year 1912 at Baltimore, Md., during November. The super-
intendent of prisons and the warden of the Atlanta Federal prison were the only officers
of the department attending. , The expenses of the Superintendent of prisons from
November 9 to 14, were $36.50 while those of the warden from November 9 to 22, were
$76.15.
The expenses each year for attendance on these meetings will depend on where the
association decides to holl its meeting—the farther the place of meeting from the
penitentiary or from Washington to place of meeting, the greater the expense. . The
1914 meeting was held at ſnilianapolis. If the warden at Leavenworth attended, his
expenses probably would not have exceeded $40, while the expenses of the warden
from Atlanta probably would have been $75 or $80. -
MISCELLANEOUS EXPENDITURES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For miscellaneous expenditures
in the discretion of the Attorney General, fuel, forage, hay, light,
water, stationery,” etc., and the appropriation is $50,000 and th
estimate is $58,500. How much was expended in 1914% -
i SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
883
Mr. McGLAssoN. $64,406. tº a tº
The CHAIRMAN. How much of that amount came from the District
of Columbia'
Mr. McGLAssoN. $16,980. º g
The CHAIRMAN. Have you a detailed statement showing how this
money has been expended?
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir; I have a detailed statement of each
separate appropriation. .
(The statements submitted by Mr. McGlasson follow:)
Expenditures, fiscal year 1914.
- |MAINTENANCE. -
Salaries. --------. * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $80,045. 52
Foremen (industries)-------------------------------------------------- 3, 107.50
Hospital supplies:
- Tll£S- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $2,623. 53
Appliances--------------------------------------------- l, 051.49 .
. - - 3, 675. 02
Clothing, transportation, etc.:
Discharge clothing ($7.015 per man). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,704. 14
Traveling expenses of officers and guard, rewards, etc. . . . . . 981. 26
Parole expenses----------------------------------------- 1,444. 55
Sheeting, bedding, etc.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 748. 75
Gratuities-----------------> .- - - - - - "* * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2, 640.00
Transportation furnished discharged prisoners.......... . . . 8,811. 52
Embalming and transporting corpses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 243.84
Boots and overshoes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 275. 08.
Shoes and shoe repairs..... - - - - - - - - - ‘s as as a sm is s 'sº a s = e º ºs as sº e s = * 4, 573. 13
Inmates’ clothing and repairs. . . . . . = ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3,856. 27
- 27, 278.54
Subsistence, per itemized statement attached. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74, 981. 49
Miscellaneous expenditures, per itemized Statement. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60,289.69
Grand total.--------------------------------------------------- 249,377.76
SUBSISTENCE.
Ex- ------ Unit price fiscal year
Item. pended. Unit price fiscal year 1914. 1915 (current year).
China, kitchen furni- || $499.84 ||---------------------------------------.........
ture, etc.
Garden seed..... . . . . . 718, 50 ---------------------------------- • = • - - - - - - - - - - -
Flour---------------- 3,913.39 $1.85, $1.83, $1.80, $1.94 hundredweight. . . . . . . . $1.70 hundredweight.
Tobacco, chewing----. 2,648.92 || $22, $28, and $27.99 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . $28.99 hundredweight.
Tobacco, Smoking. . . .] 1,668.04 || $28 and $27.24 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $27 hundredweight.
Sugar, granulated.----- 3, 141.00 || $4.57, $4.75, $4.29, and $4.13 hundredweight....] $4.35 hundredweight.
Eggs.----------------- 4,432.80 22, 30, 33, and 19% cents dozen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $0.22% dozen.
Yeast---------------- 169.75 25 cents pound-------------------------------. $0.25 pound.
Milk----------------- 2,454. 75 | 18, 19, 17, and 14% cents gallon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $0.20 gallon.
Coffee. --------------- 3, 172.00 || $16.75, $14.75, $17.69, and $15.50hundredweight. $16.99%undredweight.
Sirup----------------- 655. 72 $23, $25, and $24.99 C. gallon... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $27.48 C. gallon.
Beans, navy. . . . . . . . . . 609.34 || 4%, 3+}, 33, and 3,6 cents pound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $0.0333 pound.
Potatoes. . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,699.75 | 75 and 69 cents bushel. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Other vegetables. . . . . 1,408-05 |------------------------------------------------
Apples--------------- 725.25 $1.25 bushel----------------------------------.
Other fruits- - - - - - - - - - 811, 17 ------------------------------------------------
Dried fruits. . . . . . . . . . 1,780. 47 ------------------------------------------------
Canned goods. . . . . . . .| 1,444.84 ------------------------------------------------
Spices, teas, and ex- 1,174.39 |... ---------------------------------............
tracts. -
Cereals--------------- 294-06 |------------------------------------------------
Chicken, butter, etc...] 439.64 |................................................
Special dinner meats...] 544.80 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : - - - - - - - - - - - -
Cream cheese 1. . . . . . . . 736.49 || $16.01, $16.45, and $16.50 hundredweight. . . . . . . $16 cwt.]
Salt Salmon. . . . . . . . . . 1,417.00 $7.085 hundredweight..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Fresh halibut. . . . . . . . 483.00 || $0.11% cents pound - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.11% pound.
kard----------------- 2,797.36 || $10.83 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $10.47 hundredweight.
Butterine. ----------- 3,443.45 || $11.29 hundredweight... --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $11.125hundredweight.
Miscellaneous grocer- 2,496.70 ||---------------................................. -
10S.
72785–15—53
1 Headcheese, $7.97 per hundredweight.
834
CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
SUNDRY
SUBSISTENCE—continued. -
s * - - - - Unit price fiscal year
Item. Expended. Unit price fiscal year 1914. 1915 (current year).
Meats:
Bacon. ----------- $166.57 || $23.20 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $22.10hundredweight.
Beef cattle. . . . . . . . 4,635.26 $10.95 hundred Weight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $11.41 hundredweight.
aſſi - - - - - - - - - - - - - 277.00 || $16.90 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $16.42hundredweight.
Beef chucks. . . . . . 1,884, 17 | $9.82 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $9.73hundredweight.
Beefhearts....... 570. 51 $6.875 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $8.14 hundredweight.
Beef livers. . . . . . . . 672.65 $16.75 bundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $8.55 hundredweight.
Beef rounds...... 2,253. 16 || $13 hundredweight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $12.97bundredweight.
Dried beef........ 279.45 $22.50 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - -
Dry Salt bellies...| 4,708.02 || $13.30 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $13.18 hundredweight.
Mutton Chucks. -- 1,359. Tê $5.92 hundredweight.......................... $7.25bundredweight.
Oxtails. . . . . . . . . . . 556.98 || $5.22hundredweight. . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $5.50 hundredweight.
§: butts. . . . . . . 3,281.59 $13 hundredweight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $13.50 hundredweight.
ausage— -
Bologna. . . . . . 1,156.06 || $8.19 hundredweight. . . . . . - - - - - as º ºs º - - - - - - - - - - - - $8.94 hundredweight.
Frankfurter. . . 1,351.43 $9.47 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $9.37 hundredweight.
OſK - - - - - - - - - 1,660.44 $9.69 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $9.23 hundredweight.
Shoulder clods....] 3,387.97 || $11.42 hundredweight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $11.37hundredweight.
Total. . . . . . . . . . . 74,981. 49 -

FUEL AND GENERAL SUPPLIES.
Coal, mine run ($2.86 per long ton)
Coal, anthracite and blackSmith---
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Printing and stationery for parole work
* = e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - * * * * * * * * * *
Other printing, stationery, and office Supplies
• * * * * * * * * * s s a sº e = * * * * * * * * * * *
Soaps-----------
Oil, paint, glass
Lumber
• - - - - e = e s = e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Laundry supplies and repairs.-------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Shoe Shop......
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Power house- - - -
• * * * * * * * * * = as * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Forage, feed, etc.------------------------------------------------------
Disinfectant. . . .
• = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Kitchen supplies.----------------------------------------------------
Gas (25 cents per M feet)------------------------------------------
Blankets--------
Water (10 cents
- - - - - - - - - tº º *
s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
per M. gallons)
Stamps, prison proper. -----------------------------------------------
Stamps, parole work ($20 to department)
Chapel supplies
• = • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Orchestra and band.--------------------------------------------------
Dentist's services.-----------------------------------------------------
Oculist’s services------------------------------------------------------
Telephone exchange and rental----------------------------------------
Telegrams. . . . . .
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
General supplies-----------------------------------------------------
Parole officer, salary-------------------------------------------------- r
* - - - - - - e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Mental, examination--------------------------------------------------
Physician during Dr. Yohe’s absence----------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Poultry-------..
Live stock......
Tailor shop
• * * * * * * * * = e = e s - e s = e a s a e s = • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Farm machinery and repairs.---------. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Freight and express
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Carpenter hardware and supplies--------------------------------------
Electrical supplies.---------------------------------------------------
Amusements....
• = • * * * * * * = e s e as a e - a • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Plumbing supplies. ---------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Tin shop
BlackSmith. . . . . .
• ** = • * * * * * = = • = • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Barber shop.---
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Total expended by this institution.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - -
$22,791.
1,449.
39.
3, 634.
1, 727.
1,672.
1,486.
1, 338.
247.
1, 427.
4,433.
109.
904.
456.
917.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 835
Expended by department:
Proportionate share of salary of parole stenographer......... $277. 08
Proportionate share of salary of assistant superintendent of
prisons. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 320.83
Stationery and printing for parole work. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- - 21. 16
Total.-------------------------------. ------------------------- $619. 07
Grand total.--------------------------------------------------- 60,289.69
The CHAIRMAN. Why are you asking for the increase ?
Mr. McGLAssoN. We are asking for an increase of $8,500 under
“Miscellaneous expenses.” The real expenditure under that head,
however, will be $78,000, the difference being made up by District
of Columbia credits. .
The CHAIRMAN. What is the amount of the gratuity given to
discharged prisoners ?
Mr. McGLAssoN. $5 in cash, if he is sentenced for over one year,
and he gets $12 worth of clothing, and transportation to his home
or place of conviction. *
Mr. SHERLEY. What are you doing with the prisoners; are they
still working on the buildings .
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. DUEHAY. We have a good many working on the farm.
Mr. SHERLEY. You are not planing any more buildings?
Mr. DUEHAY. No, sir. —
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you ever expect to inaugurate any other system :
Mr. DUEHAY. Of employment 7
Mr. SHERLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. DUEHAY. Yes.
Mr. SHERLEY. What 3
Mr. DUEHAY. I have just come back from a trip and I have a whole
lot of data that I am going to talk with you about. We can not
employ them in the shoº s, which seems to be the only way to keep
them properly employed and make the institution self-supporting.
Mr. SHERLEY. What is the objection to the shops?
Mr. DUEHAY. I do not see any except the trend of public opinion.
My private opinion is that it would be a good thing.
Mr. SHERLEY. I do not find any such orinion, excert where some-
body does not want the product to come into competition with out-
side labor, but that can be taken care of by having articles made for the
Government. The present system is so bad that it is inexcusable.
Mr. DUEHAY. We are close to finishing the buildings and we will
have to try and get rlans fixed up at Once so as to provide some defi-
nite rlan of employment in order to put those institutions on a self-
sustaining basis, so as not only to take care of themselves but to pro-
duce a profit.
Mr. McGLASSON. There is no reason why they should not be self-
sustaining, the institutions of some of the States are.
Mr. SHERLEY. I want them to be self-sustaining, but I am partic-
ularly anxious that the prisoner be given a chance.
Mr. DUEHAY. A chance at what? -
Mr. SHERLEY. A chance at life. As it is now, he is turned out
with the brand of a felon on his back and he has no more chance than
if he did not have any faculties.
836 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
HOSPITAL SUPPLIES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For hospital supplies, medicines, etc., the appro-
priation is $3,000 and your estimate is $4,050.
Mr. McGLAssoN. We think our expense under that head will be
$5,400.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that based upon the increased number 3
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir; that is due to the increased number.
The CHAIRMAN. What was expended during 1914%
Mr. McGLASSON, $3,675. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where did the balance come from—from District
prisoners ? &’
Mr. McGLAssoN. We got a credit from the District of Columbia of
$1,042. There was an unexpended balance of $367.
SALARIES.
&
The CHAIRMAN. For salaries of warden, deputy warden, etc., the
appropriation is $81,480 and your estimate is $80,280. You drop
out a bookkeeper and record clerk at $1,200. Is that on your recom-
mendation ?
Mr. DUEHAY. Yes, sir. The man who has charge of the identifica-
tion system we have made our record clerk, the special agent in
charge of the identification bureau, and he also has the duties of the
record clerk to perform. -
The CHAIRMAN. This place was created a few years ago because
some prisoner who used to do the work finished his term *
Mr. McGLASSON. I think not. The positions of clerks in the peni-
tentiaries were created because our experience wi.h prison clerks has
been unfortunate, but I think the record clerk has been appropriated
for from the beginning.
Mr. DUEHAY. We were keeping a double system. We had a man
in charge of the identification bureau and then we were also keeping
a separate system for the penitentiary itself and now we have only
one system, with one man in charge of both. The work was behind
under the old system and we have caught it up now and saved the
salary of one man.
FOREMEN, LAUNDRYMEN, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. “For foremen, laundrymen, tailor, and printer,
when necessary, $3,300. What are these men used for 7
Mr. McGLASSON. They are used as their ti le indicate. We have a
foreman in charge of the prison laundry, a foreman in charge of the
tailor shop, where they make all the clothing for the inmates as well
as the discharge clothing, and a foreman printer who has charge of
the penitentiary print shop.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these the men in charge of the work per-
formed l y the prisoners?
Mr. McGLASSON, Yes, sir; they act not only as foremen, but as in-
structors to the prisoners and teach them how to do the work.
The CHAIRMAN. How much are they paid 7 -
Mr. McGLASSON. The foreman laundryman and the foreman tailor
get $1,200 and the foreman printer gets $900.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 837
PAY FOR SUPPORT OF DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA PRISONERS AND USE OF
- RECEIPTS THEREFROM.
The CHAIRMAN. “For the fiscal year nineteen hundred and sixteen
and thereafter the cost of the care and custody of District of Columbia
convicts in any Federal penitentiary shall be charged against the Dis-
trict of Columbia in quarterly accounts to be rendered by the disburs-
ing officer of said penitentiary; and the amount to be charged against
the District of Columbia shall be ascertained by multiplying the
average daily number of District of Columbia convicts confined in
the penitentiary during the quarter by their per capita cost for all
prisoners in such penitentiary for the same quarter but excluding
expenses of construction or repair of buildings.”
What is the method now followed in order to ascertain the cost of
the District prisoners?
Mr. McGLASSON. We exclude all so-called overhead charges in
making up the District of Columbia charge; that is, we charge noth-
ing on account of salaries, nothing on account of foremen, and nothing
on account of any so-called overhead expense. The result is that
while the per capita cost of the Leavenworth Penitentiary, for exam-
ple, in 1914, was 67 cents, the per capita charge of that institution
against the District was only 49 cents.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you charge against them, simply sub-
sistence 2
Mr. McGLASSON. Subsistence, clothing, hospital expenses, medi-
cines, and miscellaneous expenses, tobacco, and things of that sort.
Mr. MondELL. In charging the District of Columbia for the District
boys in the National Training School do you include also the cost of
repairs? I notice you exclude them here.
DUEHAY. We charge a fixed sum there—$4.50 a week. I do not
know how they arrive at that. º
Mr. Mond ELL. That is my understanding, and I think that was
stated again the other day by the Superintendent. They take the
total cost of running the institution, the gross cost, except capital
investment and construction of buildings.
Mr. McGLAssoN. That is what we propose to do now under this
provision except that we exclude repairs. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why should you not include the cost of repairs;
that is, upkeep 3 -
Mr. McGLAssoN. For the reason we might do an expensive job of
repairing and a month afterwards take all the District convicts away
from that institution, in which case the District would have paid its
share of the repairs and get no benefit from it.
The CHAIRMAN. But ordinary repairs Ought to be charged.
Mr. DUEHAY. Yes; repairs that are caused by ordinary wear and
tear but not extraordinary repairs. **
Mr. McGLASSON. As it is, the District of Columbia has been getting
too cheap a rate for the care of its prisoners.
The CHAIRMAN. We compelled them a few years ago at the insane
asylum to include the cost of repairs in estimating the per capita
cost, because they had an expense of upkeep of about $60,000 a year,
and eliminating that made a considerable difference. Of course the
extraordinary repairs would be more of a construction item and you
838 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
should exclude them, but it seems to me that anything that would be
an upkeep or maintenance item ought to be included.
Mr. DUEHAY. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you add:
The amounts chargeable for the care and custody of District of Columbia convicts,
as above provided, shall be credited to the appropriations for the maintenance of the
penitentiaries, and may be used when necessary in the maintenance thereof, includin
the employment of guards.
What change does that make in the present system?
Mr. McGLAssoN. Under the present system the District of Colum-
bia credits are used by the penitentiary, but as they get no credit
under the head of salaries they have nothing with which to employ
extra guards. Under this new system proposed, there would be a
charge made under the head of salaries; and I doubt if the depart-
ment would be empowered to employ extra guards paid from that
credit without some authority of law. -
The CHAIRMAN. You employ your extra guards out of miscel-
laneous'.
Mr. McGLASSON. These would not be extra guards. They would
be permanent guards. We expect to employ 18 additional guards.
We expect to have a considerable increase in the number of our
r º on opening up one big new cell wing in 1916, and we will
ave to have additional guards for that cell wing anyhow, to say
nothing of additional guards on account of this increase of 600 pris-
oners, and I do not see how we can take care of the entire institution
with the same force.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you not estimate for the number you will
need 3 * * i
Mr. McGLASSON. We were trying to keep the estimate down to
what it was last year }
The CHAIRMAN. You can not keep it down that way.
ATLANTA, GA., PENITENTIARY.
[See p. 28.]
Atlanta Penitentiary: For subsistence, Atlanta, Ga., Penitentiary,
the appropriation is $37,500 and your estimate is $45,000. How
much did you spend in 1914%
SUBSISTENCE.
Mr. McGLAssoN. $55,656.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you get from the District of
Columbia 7 -
Mr. McGLAssoN. $8,138. -
ſº CHAIRMAN. You expect to transfer your District prisoners out
of here 3 -
Mr. McGLASSON. No, sir; we expect to have an average of 200
District prisoners in the Atlanta institution in 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure an increase of 30 per cent
Mr. McGLASSON. The average population will be about 850, and
that will be an increase over 1914 of about 60 prisoners.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you expect a larger number there?
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir; there will be an increased number of 60
prisoners.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 839
The CHAIRMAN. Have you accommodations for that many more
there now %
Mr. MCGLASSON. The accommodations are about the same as they
have been and we will simply put more prisoners in there.
Mr. DUEHAY. We can put 100 in the hospital in less than six months.
The hospital is pretty well along and we can use half of it for dormi-
tories.
The CHAIRMAN. For sick prisoners?
Mr. DUEHAY. No; we only need the whole thing in case of emer-
gency and we will use half of the hospital for dormitories and the
other half for hospital purposes. -.
CLOTHING, TRANSPORTATION, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. For clothing, transportation, and traveling ex-
penses the appropriation is $17,500 and you are asking for $20,000.
Mr. McGLAsson. Our expenses last year were $25,588, and we think
our expenses next year will be $26,000. The difference will come from
the District under this suggested new language.
MISCELLANE OUS EXPENSES.
The CHAIRMAN. For miscellaneous expenditures the appropriation
is $40,000, and your estimate is $35,000.
Mr. McGLAssoN. Our expenses last year were $41,372.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking to be allowed $150 for maintenance
and repair of horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicles. What vehi-
cles have you ? 3
Mr. McGLASSON. One horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicle used
by the warden and deputy warden on official business.
º CHAIRMAN. Do you know anything about the necessity for
that %
Mr. DUEHAY. Only what the note says. The note seems to cover it.
The CHAIRMAN. I did not know whether you had any personal
knowledge about it or not.
Mr. DUEHAY. No, sir. -
Mr. McGLAssoN. The institution is located quite some distance
from the center of the town of Atlanta, some three or four miles, and
while the warden has his own private automobile, the deputy warden
and none of the other officers has a machine.
The CHAIRMAN. Are there any car lines to the institution ?
Mr. McGLASSON. There is a car line, yes; but I suppose they use
this vehicle in going out into the country beyond where the car line
extends. .
Mr. DUEHAY. And they use it to take in prisoners and to get the
mail, and they are now using a double team to haul manure.
E[OSPITAL SUPPLIES.
The CHAIRMAN. For hospital supplies the appropriation is $2,100,
and the estimate is $2,100. How many prisoners did you say were
at Atlanta ?
Mr. McGLASSON. There are now about 890.
840 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
SALARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. Salaries of warden, deputy warden, etc., the ap-
propriation is $74,580, and your estimate is $74,100. You drop out
a bookkeeper and record clerk at $1,200 and a telephone operator
at $480. - .”
Mr. McGLAssoN. We do not drop out the bookkeeper and record
clerk. We drop out a telephone operator.
º CHAIRMAN. You also drop out the bookkeeper and record
CléI’K. -
Mr. McGLAssoN. He was dropped out under Leavenworth.
The CHAIRMAN. He is also dropped out in this item.
Mr. McGLAssoN. It was not intended to drop him out. That is a
mistake.
The CHAIRMAN. You want the bookkeeper and record clerk'
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes; we want to continue him at Atlanta, but we
drop him out at Leavenworth, because at Leavenworth we have the
finger-print expºrt do it all. We drop out the telephone operator at
$480, because we found we could not get a reliable man at that salary.
Mr. MondELL. What do you do? -
Mr. McGLAssoN. We put the telephone exchange in charge of a
prisoner. ,”
Mr. MondELL. Is that perfectly safe 2
M. McGLAssoN. No, sir; it is not, but it is the only thing we
C81, Il ClO.
Mr. MONDELL. It strikes me as being very dangerous unless you
are sure of your prisoner.
Mr. DUEHAY. What harm can it do .
Mr. MoRDELL. It strikes me it might lead to a very great deal of
harm, because a good many things might come over the phone and be
sent over the phone and a lot of conspiracies might be hatched, and
we generally put our best prisoner there. *
FOREMEN, TAILOR, BLACKSMITH, ETC.
The CHAIRMAN. For foremen, tailor, blacksmith, shoemaker,
laundryman, and carpenter, when necessary, the appropriation is
$4,000 and your estimate is $4,000. These are the foremen in the
various departments?
Mr. McGLASSON. Yes, sir.
M’NEIL ISLAND, WASH., PENITENTIARY.
[See p. 829.]
The CHAIRMAN. McNeil Island, for subsistence, the appropriation
is $13,000 and you are asking for $16,000. Is that due to increase of
population ?
SUBSISTENCE.
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you spend there in 1914%
Mr. McGLASSON. In 1914 we expended for subsistence $13,170.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 841
CLOTHING, TRANSPORTATION, ETC.
t
The CHAIRMAN. For clothing, transportation, and traveling ex-
penses the appropriation is $7,000 and you are asking for $10,000.
What is the necessity for the increase?
Mr. McGLASSON. One reason is that our population will be greater.
The CHAIRMAN. How do you figure you are going to have more
peºple in jail next year?
Mr. McGLASSON. We have more there now than last year.
The CHAIRMAN. But how do you figure you will have more next
year 2 What do you base that on ? . .
Mr. McGLASSON. Our expenses and the number of days’ subsist-
ence from year to year show increases.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have you there now %
Mr. McGLASSON. On January 1 we had 221.
The CHAIRMAN. How many last year }
Mr. McGLASSON. The average for last year was 196. That differ-
ence will not account for the entire amount of the increase.
Mr. GILLETT. Is 221 a fair average for this year?
Mr. McGLASSON. Our average this year will be 225 or 230. I
mean our average for 1916, we think, will be 225 or 230.
MISCELLANEOUS EXPEN SES.
The CHAIRMAN. For miscellaneous expenditures you had $10,000
and you are asking for $15,000. How much did you spend in 1914?
Mr. McGLAssoN. Our expenses in 1914 were $12,035.
The CHAIRMAN. For hospital supplies you ask $1,000.
Mr. McGLASSON. That remains the same. Our expenses were
$530. -
SALARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. For salaries of warden, deputy warden, and so
forth, you ask $18,100% - - - - -
Mr. McGLASSON. There has been no change there whatever.
I might explain we have a parole officer there now whose salary comes
out of the miscellaneous expense fund and his traveling expenses out
of the clothing and transportation fund. His salary is $1,200 a year
and his expenses will be about $500 a year. That will account for
part of the increase under those two heads. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you pay for personal services out of the
miscellaneous item 7
Mr. McGLAssoN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that an emergency
Mr. McGLASSON. That has been considered an emergency. The
parole law makes it mandatory on the board of parole to employ a
parole officer and the appropriation, miscellaneous expenses, is the only
one available in the absence of a specific appropriation for that salary.
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SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1915.
NATIONAL TRAINING SCHOOL FOR BOYS.
STATEMENTS OF MIR. WILLIAM M. SHUSTER, PRESIDENT ;
MR. SAMUEL W. CURRIDEN, SECRETARY AND TREASURER;
AND MR. GEORGE A, STIRLING, SUPERINTENDENT.
NEW FAMILY BUILDING.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask $20,000 for the construction of a new
family building. What is the necessity for this new building?
Mr. SHUSTER. Mr. Chairman, this is simply carrying out the policy
which has been followed for some time in the school of reducing the
number of boys in a family. We have too many boys now to a family.
The CHAIRMAN. How many have you?
Mr. SHUSTER. We have on an average about 50, or between 50
and 60 boys, in a family, and that is much above the average should
be in order to secure the attention that should be given the boys.
For the best results we ought not to have more than 30 in a family.
The CHAIRMAN. How many would this proposed building accom-
modate 7
Mr. SHUSTER. About 40. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many boys have you in the school? .
Mr. SHUSTER. The school population is now lower than it has
been for quite a while. We E. 345 now, which is the lowest we
have had for some time. The average last year was three hundred
and eighty-odd, and the year before it was a little over 400.
The CHAIRMAN. Of what would this building be constructed?
Mr. SHUSTER. It would be a brick building similar to the other
buildings we have there, and in addition to being a family building,
the theory we have in mind is to use a part of it, or some of the rooms
in the building, as a place for detention of boys upon their arrival
at the school so that they can be kept together under careful observa-
tion for a while, before assigning them to any family.
Mr. Mond ELL. How would the building be constructed—largely by
the labor of the boys'
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes; and that is the reason why we only ask for that
amount. This building, after completion, would be worth a great
deal more than that money. - -
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you pay the boys anything for such work?
Mr. SHUSTER. No; that is a part of their work. They receive a
good many advantages, however, from taking part in that work.
They get practical experience in actual work.
Mr. MondBLL. Will this be a brick building'.
Mr. SHUSTER. It will be a brick building.
Mr. MonoFLL. Where would you get the brick?
Mr. SHUSTER. We burn brick on the ground. The boys, under
skilled teačhers and instructors, would make the brick, and other
squads of boys would lay them under the supervision of foremen.
Mr. MoRDELL. And they would do some of the carpenter work?
Mr. SHUSTER. They would do a great deal of the carpenter work.
Mr. STIRLING. Ordinarily we do all of the construction work there,
but we must get the rough or raw material.
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Mr. MONDELL. Do you have a carpenter shop with planing ma-
chines, etc.? -
Mr. SHUSTER. We have a large shop building where different
branches of carpenter and other work are carried on under one roof.
Mr. MondBLL. Would you get the material in the rough for a build-
ing of this kind and then have the boys to work it up very largely .
Mr. STIRLING. Yes, sir.
SAILARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is on page 499. For the superin-
tendent, assistant Superintendent, teachers and assistant teachers,
etc., you ask $34,276 and the current appropriation is $34,276. This
is the permanent organization, is it not ?
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes; this is the present organization. However,
that does not include any increases in pay. We asked originally for
some additional force. I have understood that our estimates were
not to exceed the appropriation for the preceding year
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We can only discuss what is sub-
mitted to Congress and not what you think is desirable under the
circumstances. e
Mr. SHUSTER. I wanted to call the attention of the committee to
the fact that we did ask for some additional force.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking for the same force that you have
at present 7
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes, sir.
Mr. CURRIDEN. Mr. Chairman, it has been proposed to change the
word “teachers” and make it “family officers and instructors.” A
teacher is a man engaged in classroom work. It is like the word
“vehicles” covers automobiles and wagons. The word “instructor”
covers teachers and sometimes there are men who are ignorant, but
who are adapted to family work and who are not capable as teachers,
but very good as family officers; and if you could change those words
“teachers and assistant teachers” to “family officers and instructors”
I think it would be helpful. -
Mr. MONDELL. I notice that you have six matrons of families, at
$240 each.
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. How are you able to secure a woman employee of
that sort for $20 per month'.
Mr. SHUSTER. The salaries are low, but of course it must be taken
into consideration that these employees have quarters provided for
them and also their table, in addition to their pay
Mr. Mond ELL. That covers all of the expenses?
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes; but nevertheless the pay is low, and sometimes
we have difficulty in retaining people permanently.
Mr. MondELL. Are the matrons frequently women whose husbands
ar:2 connected with the institution also }
Mr. SHUSTER. Not as a rule.
Mr. STIRLING. Most of them are, and we try to get a man and wife
to take care of a family building.
Mr. MondELL. That is the most satisfactory way ?
Mr. STIRLING.. Yes, sir.
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Mr. MONDELL. And the man would be employed as a teacher ?
Mr. SHUSTER. Either as a teachór or helper. .
Mr. MonBELL. So that this would be really in addition to her hus-
band's salary?
Mr. STIRLING. Yes, sir.
TEACEIERS.
Replying to the request for a statement of the estimate for family officers and
teachers, the list of officers now employed is given below:
Estimate.------------------------------------------------------------ $9,120
Family officers:
1 at $70 a month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $70
4 at $60 a month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
2 at $55 a month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 110
3 at $50 a month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150
2 at $45 a month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 90
Total for month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 660
Total for year. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - 7, 920
Instructors:
1 instructor in band music. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $600
l instructor in singing and organist. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 360
1 instructor in military drill.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 240
1, 200
9, 120
SUPPORT OF INMATES.
The CHAIRMAN. “For support of inmates, including groceries, flour,
feed, meats,” etc., you ask $10,500, and the current appropriation
is $10,500. What is the per capita cost 7 -
PER CAPITA GOST.
Mr. SHUSTER. The per capita cost for the institution, figured out
as 'nearly as we can, is $4.50 per week, or about $234 a year.
The CHAIRMAN. Is not that pretty high .
Mr. SHUSTER. Well, considering what is done for these boys, I do
not think it is.
Mr. STIRLING. That runs right along with other institutions.
The CHAIRMAN. What other institutions :
Mr. STIRLING. Take, for instance, the St. Charles School for Boys
at St. Charles, Ill., with an average population in 1914 of 508, with a
cost per capita of $262.54; the Massachusetts Training School, at
Westboro, Mass., with an average population in 1914 of 409, the per
capita cost being $286.52; the State agricultural and industral school
at Industry, N. Y., with an average population in 1914 of 720, the
cost per capita being $290.17.
Mr. MONDELL. This includes board and clothing'. ... "
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes; and instruction and manual training. We have
a day school, and the boys attend it for nine months of the year.
The CHAIRMAN. You can keep a boy in a first-class boarding school
for $250 per year.
Mr. SHUSTER. But while they have a higher grade of instruction
in some boarding schools than we have, in addition we give the boys
manual training and have to provide against escapes. º
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The CHAIRMAN. That does not add to the expense of conducting it.
Mr. SHUSTER. The manual training does to a considerable extent.
The CHAIRMAN. You could put a boy in a boarding school for $200
a year, and $50 a year would nearly cover the schooling. I spent
eight years in a boarding school myself.
Mr. SHUSTER. We have to put officers in charge of these boys.
The CHAIRMAN. Is this for 12 months? -
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes. We have to provide for these, boys bein
under continuous supervision. Then we have a complete hospita
service and a school physician. -
The CHAIRMAN. We had all that where I went to school.
Mr. SHUSTER. Then, operations have to be performed on some of
these boys for all sorts of troubles. As a rule the boys who come
into the school do not come there in good condition physically or
mentally.
PASSENGER-CARRYING VEHICLES.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to modify this language by changing
“vehicles” to “purchase, maintenance, and repair of vehicles, includ-
ing those used for carrying passengers.” Have you any passenger-
carrying vehicles?
Mr. SHUSTER. When our trustees visit the school and attend the
meetings of the board held there they must have some means of
ºportation. The school is about 3 miles outside of the city
imits. - .
* CHAIRMAN. Do you maintain any passenger-carrying vehicles
there
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes; we have three automobiles, two passenger-
carrying and one freight. -
f The CHAIRMAN. What do you use the two passenger automobiles
OT *
Mr. SHUSTER. They are used for the superintendent and officers
of the school when they come to the city on business, and they are
used by the trustees in connection with school work
The CHAIRMAN. Do you need two automobiles there?
Mr. SHUSTER. I think so.
The CHAIRMAN. What officials use them?
Mr. SHUSTER. There are seven trustees, and we have regular visit-
ing committees appointed from those trustees. -
The CHAIRMAN. They do not use these automobiles in going out
to the school, do they'.
Mr. SHUSTER. They will send in for us when we want to go out to
the school. -
The CHAIRMAN. How far is the school from a car line?
Mr. SHUSTER. There is a car line running at 40-minute intervals
within, perhaps, a quarter of a mile of the school buildings.
The CHAIRMAN. You say you have use for two automobiles?
Mr. SHUSTER. We find it necessary, but not for that alone.
The CHAIRMAN. For what other purposes?
Mr. SHUSTER. Well, they have services there on Sundays, and
they generally have to send to town for a minister to hold the Sun-
day services.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of automobiles are they'
Mr. STIRLING. They are what is known as the Ford.
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The CHAIRMAN. They are Ford cars?
Mr. STIRLING. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What officials are there in the institution that
would use these cars? -
Mr. STIRLING. These cars are used simply for business purposes for
the school.
The CHAIRMAN. What officials use them 7 +
Mr. STIRLING. The members of the board of trustees, the superin-
tendent, and assistant superintendent.
The CHAIRMAN. Does the superintendent come into town much 3
Mr. STIRLING. No, sir; not much. One of these machines is old,
having been at the institution for three years or more, and we use it
pretty much for sending out men when boys attempt to escape from
the institution. They use them around in different places.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they escape often from the institution.”
Mr. SHUSTER. They attempt it, Mr. Chairman, but we generally
get them back in that way.
Mr. STIRLING. Boys working out in the field will sometimes break
away and run off, but sometimes they go along for two months with-
out even an attempt being made to escape. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much did the cars cost 7
Mr. STIRLING. They cost $570 apiece. They are low-priced
machines. +
The CHAIRMAN. When was the last one bought 7
Mr. STIRLING. We got one this past Summer. "
SUBSISTENCE TO OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for this additional language: “And sub-
sistence to officers or employees engaged in such duties.” . That refers
to the pursuit of escaped inmates. Where do the officers go when
these escapes occur : -
Mr. STIRLING. We have different places to which we send officers to
cover points on the road where we expect these “escapes” will go by.
The CHAIRMAN. What does this subsistence consist of .
Mr. STIRLING. Meals— a dinner, for instance, or supper.
Mr. SHUSTER. They might have to be away overnight.
Mr. STIRLING. Yes, sir.
Mr. Mond ELL. That would not amount to any considerable sum
in the course of a year, I assume 3
Mr. STIRLING. No, sir.
Mr. Mond ELL. Have you had any trouble with the comptroller in
regard to your accounts on account of that matter of subsistence?
Mr. SHUSTER. Yes. Mr. Curriden, the secretary and treasurer, is
present, and he can tell you something about that.
Mr. CURRIDEN. They disallowed an account of six dollars and some
cents of a parole officer. It would have been all right to incur that
expense outside of the District, but within the District he could not.
The law does not permit it,
Mr. MoRDELL. Was the parole officer connected with the institu-
tion ? - - -
Mr. CURRIDEN. Yes, sir; he was an officer of our school.
The CHAIRMAN. These parole officers subsist themselves when out
on duty, do they not ?
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Mr. CURRIDEN. They have their homes, but subsistence is furnished
at the school. Sometimes a parole officer will take a boy to the
station to take the train, and the train may be late. Then, he must
#. that boy a meal costing 25 or 30 cents. Now, the law precludes
im from doing that in the District of Columbia. -
The CHAIRMAN. You say that your population is lower now than it
has been for some time 3 -
Mr. SHUSTER. The population is lower now than it has been for
some time. Last year we had about 380 and the year before four
hundred-odd. At the present date it is 345, as I understand from the
superintendent. At present not so many boys are sent from the
District courts, but I think this is a matter that will adjust itself
in time.
EXTRAORDINARY REPAIRS TO BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS, DRAINAGE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, ‘‘For extraordinary repairs to
buildings, fences, roadways, and drainage, and for purchase º equip-
ment, and for stock for the dairy, $3,050.” The current appropria-
tion is $3,050. You include the words “and drainage.” Why is that ?
Mr. SHUSTER. That is for portions of the grounds that will have to
be properly drained to prevent washing of the soil and as a matter of
health and sanitation. It probably will not be a very extraordinary
or unusual expense. \ - -
- . CHAIRMAN. How has this drainage been taken care of here-
tofore ? -
Mr. STIRLING. By open ditches. -
Mr. SHUSTER. And we want to avoid any open ditches as far as
possible?
The CHAIRMAN. You have a general repair item, have you not %
Mr. SHUSTER. But this extraordinary repair item is to cover
unusual and perhaps unforeseen repairs, for instance, a roof might
blow off or a heavy storm might make heavy washings in the school
grounds or a portion of the soil. - -
The CHAIRMAN. What are the extraordinary repairs as to the
buildings? -
Mr. SHUSTER. Any accident to a building unforeseen or unusual
would be covered by that item. A roof might blow off, or a portion
of it; this covers extraordinary repairs also to roadways and fencing,
etC.
The CHAIRMAN. You take care of that out of your other appro-
priations? º
Mr. SHUSTER. This is to supplement the language of the other
appropriations for support.
Mr. CURRIDEN. In regard to the fences and roadways you know
we last year secured an addition on the north of our school lands of
over 57 acres. We have not one dollar to expend on the roadways
necessary to get through that land, have now only temporary road-
ways; there are no fences other than those originally on it.
DAIRY STOCK.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking $1,500 for stock for dairy.
Mr. SHUSTER. I am told by the superintendent that the present
stock is what he describes as scrub stock and he thinks it is very
desirable to have better stock.
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The CHAIRMAN. How large a herd have you ?
Mr. STIRLING. We have 25 milk cows.
The CHAIRMAN. Do they furnish all the milk you use 7
Mr. STIRLING. They furnish all the milk we use, but if we had more
milk we could use it. -
The CHAIRMAN. Out of what appropriation were the animals you
now have purchased ?
Mr. SHUSTER. I think there was a special appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Has not the board bought any cows lately .
Mr. STIRLING. We have bought a common cow now and then but
this appropriation was asked for so we could get some pure-bred cows,
if possible, which would cost us probably $300 apiece.
Mr. CURRIDEN. Permit me to say that some years ago, I think
15 years ago, there was an appropriation of fifteen hundred and some
odd dollars to get some cows, and we sent up to Syracuse, N. Y., and
bought a bull and two or three cows and they were brought on here,
and the effort was to perpetuate the herd from that stock. We had
an old stable which was burned down and did not have the advantages
we have now with the new barn and the new stock-keeping facilities,
and the amount asked for would give us a start toward getting
high-grade stock. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why did you not buy high-grade stock before
when you had the $1,500 appropriation?
Mr. CURRIDEN. It does not require any more food for a 65-gallon
cow than it does for a 15-gallon cow. That was the proposition then.
Mr. MoMDELL. Do I understand that you bought comparatively
cheap animals at that time
Mr. CURRIDEN. Oh, no. We bought a high-grade bull and two or
three cows in Syracuse about 10 or 15 years ago. Now that herd
has deteriorated and the bull has died. We have some of the
descendants of that bull in our stock now, Holstein animals, but we
have changed from the old barn to the new barn, and the conditions
have been vastly improved, and with this new start, as the superin-
tendent recommends, we should have a start toward getting a high-
grade herd.
Mr. MoRDELL. Why would not the best plan for the building up
of your herd be to get a reasonably good bull?
Mr. STIRLING. We have recently secured a good bull.
Mr. MoRDELL. Then you are improving your herd?
Mr. STIRLING.. Yes, sir; we are.
Mr. MondELL. And you grow your own herd, as I understand it,
and as the cows grow old you kill them, and use them for meat':
Mr. STIRLING. Yes; we use them for meat.
Mr. MonBELL. So that you are constantly renewing your herd from
your young stock #
Mr. STURLING. We are now.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is not the best way to improve your herd to change
your male animal occasionally and improve it in that way?
Mr. STIRLING. But we thought that that was a pretty slow process,
and if we could get some money now to give us a few pure-bred cows
we would be just that much advanced. -
Mr. MONDELL. That is a quicker way to do it than by buying one
or two or three cows that would cost you a lot of money, because
then you would only have that number of improved stock, whereas
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if you occasionally change your bull and getting a better animal you
would be constantly improving the quality of your entire herd.
Mr. STIRLING. We are. We have a bull with a pedigree and a young
bull coming on. -
FURNITURE AND GYMNASIUM EQUIPMENT, NEW SCHOOL BUILDING.
The CHAIRMAN. “For furniture and gymnasium equipment for new
school building, to be immediately available, $3,000.” What did
this building cost 7
Mr. SHUSTER. $45,000 was appropriated in all. The building is
probably worth about $75,000. tº
The CHAIRMAN. What have you spent all told on it': -
Mr. SHUSTER. About $35,000 up to this date, the building not yet
being completed. g
The CHAIRMAN. Does that appropriation include equipment'
Mr. SHUSTER. No, sir. It included “gynmasium and baths,” but
the equipment for the school consists of chairs, desks, furniture, etc.
The equipment of the gymnasium consists of appropriate furniture
and appliances. -
Mr. MondELL. Have you estimated what that building would have
cost you under contract?
Mr. SHUSTER. I think under contract that building would have cost
in the neighborhood of $75,000. Of course, I am not an expert on
such matters; the chairman of our building committee, Mr. Duehay,
who is unfortunately out of the city, could give more definite in-
formation on that than any other member of the board. I think that
is his idea, that the building is worth in the neighborhood of $75,000,
because the boys have done a great deal of the work. . We burnt our
own bricks and did the carpenter work, laid the bricks in the walls,
and dug the foundations, and the $45,000 which was appropriated
does not cover the value of that building by any means.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the gymnasium ? ... --
Mr. SHUSTER. The gymnasium will be in the central school building,
which will be completed in the course of the next year, probably.
In that building we are going to centralize the day schools. We are
going to initiate a more thorough and more complete school system.
The CHAIRMAN. How many pupils will that building accommodate?
Mr. SHUSTER. A great many more than we have now.
The CHAIRMAN. How many ? - -
Mr. SHUSTER. I do not definitely know. It will probably accom-
modate 500 boys.
The CHAIRMAN. How many do you contemplate providing accom-
modations for 3 -
lº SHUSTER. At least 400, because our population has been over.
that.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any furniture now %
Mr. SHUSTER. I think not. We will need 400 chairs and 400 desks
to start with.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you any school furniture at all?
Mr. SHUSTER. We have some old school furniture in the several
family buildings, some of which might be utilized.
Mr. CURRIDEN. Each family building has its own schoolroom and
its own sleeping dormitory overhead and the working room and the
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rough room down below; and those individual schoolrooms will not
be done away with entirely, and there will be uses for these desks.
When the boys will be assigned to classroom work they will also have
their individual work in the family building.
Mr. MoRDELL. You intend to continue some class work in the indi-
vidual buildings?
Mr. CURRIDEN. Yes, sir; and we will have use for every one of
those desks. -
Mr. SHUSTER. They are all desks that can be utilized, but they are
pretty old fixtures. - -
The CHAIRMAN. When will the building be finished?
Mr. SHUSTER. By the fall of 1915 a. º of it will be ready for
occupancy, but it will not be completed at that time. -
The CHAIRMAN. Do you'mean in September or October 7
Mr. STIRLING. When schooltime comes in September.
Mr. SHUSTER. A large portion of it can be occupied then. º,
The CHAIRMAN. Have you prepared a statement showing what you
need this $3,000 for – the details of it?
Mr. SHUSTER. I myself have not. The superintendent, I think, has
one over it, and we estimatſ d for 400 desks and 400 chairs and fo
urniture in the different buildings gºnerally— -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Have you a detailed estimate }
Mr. SHUSTER. I have not.
Mr. STIRLING. The 400 desks will cost over $5 apiece.
The CHAIRMAN. We want a statement of the things you will have
to have making up this total of $3,000, and you will have to submit
that to us.
Mr. STIRLING. All right, sir.
NATIONAL TRAINING SCHOOL FOR BOYS,
- Washington, D. C., January 25, 1915.
Hon. JoBN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
House of Representatives, Washington, D. C.
SIR: On behalf of the National Training School for Boys and in compliance with
your request at the hearingon the 22d. instant, I have the honor, to submit below in
detail the items of certain appropriations desired for Our School for the fiscal year
1916: -
Estimate for furniture and gymnasium equipment for new school building. $3,000.00
For furniture for the central School building:
350 adjustable School desks, at $5.35. -- - - - - - - - - - $1,872, 50
100 armchairs for recitation rooms, at $4.-------- 400.00
8 bookcases, at $13.25 each. --------------------- 106. 00
6 desks for instructors, at $16.90 each------------ 101. 40
— $2,479.90
For equipment for gymnasium:
100 * dumb-bells, 1-pound------------------ 50, 00
100 pair wands, at $1.60 dozen----------- - - - - - - - 12. 80
1 horse- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 120.00
1 buck------------------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 48. 00
I parallel bar---------------------------------- 50.00
1 horizontal bar------------------------------- 40. 00
1 Springboard---------------------------------- 30.00
6 5 by 10 mats. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T80. 00
3 chest weights, triplex------------------- . . . . . . 108.00
1 pair jump standards-------------------------- I0. 00
8 traveling rings.-------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 48. 00
1 punchir # bag, drumhead, and bog------------- 25.00
1 cabinet for dumb-bells. -----------. . . . . . . . . . . . 25, 00
4 medicine balls. • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 24.00
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 851
For equipment for gymnasium—Continued.
1 basketball... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $6.00
Basket-ball grabs. ------------------------. . . . . . 3. 60
Back------------------------------------------ 25. 00
Measuring and testing apparatus--------- - - - - - - - 92. 2.5
Bowling alleys. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 900. 00
$1,797. 65 -
— $4,277. 55
The above prices for School furniture are the current rates paid under contract by
the purchasing agent for the public Schools of the District of Columbia. It is believed
that a large part of the above items of furniture and gymnasium equipment can be pro-
duced in the shops of the school with the aid of the boys—and for this reason the full
amount of cost if purchased outside, viz, $4,277.55, is not estimated or asked for.
Very respectfully,
WM. M. SHUSTER,
President Board of Trustees.
Mr. MoRDELL. To what grade do you carry your school work?
Mr. STIRLING. The eighth grade.
Mr. MONDELL. You attempt nothing beyond that ?
Mr. STIRLING. No; the boys are not with us long enough to get
advanced beyond that. -
Mr. SHUSTER. The average time of attendance is a little less than
two years.
Mr. Mond ELL. I think it is very much more important to get them
thoroughly grounded up to the eighth grade than it is to advance
them further.
Mr. STIRLING, Yes.
Mr. MoRDELL. A boy who is thoroughly grounded up to the eighth
grade and has manual training in addition to that is equipped for
anything. He can become a professional man if he wants to, by
working his way through school.
Mr. STIRLING, Yes.
THURSDAY, JANUARY 21, 1915.
IMMIGRATION STATIONS.
STATEMENTS OF MR. A. CAMINETTI, COMMISSIONER GEN-
ERAL OF IMMIGRATION, AND MIR, ROGER O’DONNELL, SPE
CIAL IIMIMIGRANT INSPECTOR, -
ELLIS ISLAND, N.Y., STATION.
The CHAIRMAN. “Ellis Island, N. Y.: For construction and fur-
nishing of additional detention and dormitory quarters for cabin
passengers.”
Mr. CAMINETTI. Mr. Chairman, we have stricken out everything
for Ellis Island except one item of $4,000. We will ask leave to
withdraw all those recommendations with the exception of that one
item. *
The CHAIRMAN. What is that for 7
Mr. O’DONNELL. For pipe trench between main power house and
baggage and dormitory building.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Not that we do not need all of those things, but
in view of the conditions that now exist, after consultation with the
d
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Secretary on two occasions, it was determined to ask the committee
for permission to withdraw all those estimates with the exception of
that one. -
PIPE TRENCEI BETWEEN POWER HOljSE AND DORMITORY.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask for pipe trench between main power
house and baggage and dormitory building, $4,000 }
Mr. O'Donn FL.L. Yes, sir. All the pipes and electric wiring which
supply that baggage and dormitory building with water, heat, and
ower are not at present carried in a pipe trench. They are put
in a wooden box underground, which is really a source of danger.
It is also very uneconomical to carry steam pipes through a tempo-
rary arrangement of that kind, and this is really a necessary item
to complete that building, which has recently been supplemented
by the addition of a new story.
The CHAIRMAN. How long is this trench 7 -
Mr. O'LONNELL. Two hundred and forty feet. w
Mr. CAMINETTI. We could not get along without that, Mr. Chair-
man, absolutely. It would be bad policy and bad management.
The CHAIRMAN. What do you mean by a pipe trench 3
Mr. O’D ONNELL. It will be a trench constructed of reinforced con-
crete and brick, with the necessary sewer connections to carry off
any leakage and with appropriate manholes to facilitate getting
at the pipes and wires carried in this trench.
The CHAIRMAN. What other items do you request ?
Mr. O’DONNELL. There are no other Ellis Island items which the
department wishes to recommend at this time, but there are two
items for Galveston, Tex., and Philadelphia, Pa., about which I
would like to speak. s
USE OF DOF MITORIES...I.O.R. H.O.U.SING UNEMPLOYEID.
Mr. GILLETT. Before we take up those, I would like to ask you a
question about Ellis Island. I noticed in the New York papers the
other day it was stated that they were using Ellis Island for dormi-
tories for the unemployed in New York. I would like to inquire
whether that is true or not
Mr. CAMINETTI. It is true to some extent.
Mr. GILLETT. To what extent is that being done
Mr. CAMINETTI. Representations were made to the commissioner
there that there was a great deal of hardship among the unemployed
in New York, and he permitted 300, I think, on the first night to
come over there and use a building for sleeping purposes, and then
in the morning they would get breakfast and go back, some organiza-
tion in the city of New York paying for the breakfast.
Mr. GILLETT. Is that done right along 3
Mr. CAMINETTI. Yes, sir; it Thas been done every night by three
or four hundred men.
Mr. GILLETT. It does not interfere with your duties at all?
Mr. CAMINETTI. Absolutely not. I went over there for the pur-
pose of determining that, as well as some other matters, and found
it did not interfere in any way. It added no expense to the govern-
ment of the island, and we have a lot of space there, and hence there
was no interference with the administration work.
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Mr. GILLETT. How do the unemployed in New York get over there
and back 2
Mr. CAMINETTI. We have a ferryboat that leaves the barge office
at the Battery and makes regular trips over to the island.
Mr. GILLETT. And they go over on one of your boats? -
Mr. CAMINETTI. They go on the 7 o'clock boat. It makes a trip
at that time, anyway, and then in the morning it has to come over
just the same, so there is no additional expense involved by doing
this work. We have investigated that particularly. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Mr. Caminetti, do you understand that those who
go over there are those who know of the opportunity and just volun-
tarily take advantage of it, or is the matter being handled by some
organized charitable association?
Mr. CAMINETTI. As I understand, there is an organization there.
that called upon the commissioner and asked for this permission, and
the commissioner granted it. I am told by the officer there that the
people who come over there are a very nice class of people and look
like people who have been engaged in good occupations.
Mr. MONDELL. All men, I suppose? -
Mr. CAMINETTI. Yes, sir; all men. I will state further that we
have our regular watchmen at night, and of course they are watching
there so there will be no interference with the building in any way
or shape. They are given blankets and they rearrange everything
in the morning and go out orderly. They are a very gentlemanly
º of people. That is the representation made to me by our officers
there.
Mr. GILLETT. Is that about as many as you can accommodate 2
Mr. CAMINETTI. No, sir; we can accommodate more, if necessary.
Mr. GILLETT. About how many could you accommodate % -
Mr. CAMINETTI. We could accommodate up to 1,000 I think.
Mr. GILLETT. You have beds for 1,000%
Mr. CAMINETTI. We could accommodate up to 1,000 without any
trouble, and my information from this investigation the other day
is that that would be without any cost to us at all, except the ordi-
nary wear and tear that falls upon the blankets used. .
Mr. MoRDELL. And some little cost for laundry work and that sort
of thing, I suppose ? $
Mr. CAMINETTI. Yes.
Mr. GILLETT. You do not give them sheets, I suppose ?
Mr. CAMINETTI. No; we do not furnish sheets to any of them.
NTUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS.
[See p. 857.]
Mr. GILLETT. I suppose now there is no immigration to speak of 3
Mr. CAMINETTI. The immigration at New York port is cut down
materially, from 60 to 70 per cent, comparing it with the immigration
for the same dates commencing with the 1st of August, 1913, and
the 1st of August, 1914, respectively. -
Mr. GILLETT. About how many do you get a month now %
Mr. O’DonnELL. For this current fiscal year? -
Mr. GILLETT. I mean since the war.
Mr. O'DonnELL. Of course, I have not July segregated. I can
supply it for the record. From August 1, the total arrivals at New
854 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
York, including July, for those first five months of the fiscal year,
142,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. As against what figure for the same period of the
year before ? *
Mr. O'DonnELL. I have not that figure for the same period.
Mr. CAMINETTI. We can supply that. I have the figures for every
day for 1913 and 1914. •º
NoTE.—The total immigration to the United States from August 1, 1914, to Decem-
ber 31, 1914, aggregated 215,453.
Mr. GILLETT. That must be a drop of more than 70 per cent.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Comparing those dates in 1913 with the dates in
1914, it is between 60 and 70 per cent.
GALVESTON, TEX., STATION, FERRYBOAT.
The CHAIRMAN. Galveston, Tex.; For purchase or construction of
a ferryboat, $25,000.
Mr. O'Donn ELL. The station at Galveston, as the chairman knows,
is on an island, and we have been hiring two boats which have been
performing the ferry service there, . Unfortunately, this year we have
an irrevocable contract for both of those boats, so we find them rather
a burden, because we have little use for them at present. But the
present condition will not last forever, and we may assume that as
soon as immigration recommences we will again have use for the two
boats, which cost us at the present time $6,600 per annum. We were
not able to get one boat that was large enough or suitable to do that
work and we have had to have two small vessels furnished by local
owners. It was considered by the department that $25,000 for a
vessel would be a good investment as compared with spending $6,600
a year for rental of two boats.
The CHAIRMAN. What would be the size and capacity of the boat
you would get for $25,000%
Mr. O’Donn ELL. It was contemplated to have a vessel somewhat
on the order of a large tug, with a day cabin for the number of immi-
grants or passengers that would be apt to go back and forth to the
station. should say a boat perhaps 85 or 100 feet in length, some-
what on the order of a tugboat, is what is contemplated, and inci-
dentally that would also be useful for boarding purposes—for board-
ing vessels in the bay.
he CHAIRMAN. How many immigrants arrived at Galveston last
year'
Mr. O'DONNELL. Six thousand nine hundred and sixty-nine. "
Mr. GILLETT. And how many the year before ? º
Mr. O'DONNELL. I have not the reports as far back as 1913.
Mr. GILLETT. Could you say about how many ?
Mr. O’DONNELL. I should say approximately the same number
last year. I will supply the exact figures in the record.
NoTE.—The figures are as follows: 1914, 6,969; 1913, 5,749; 1912, 5,069.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the expense of the Galveston station ?
Mr. O'Donn ELL. I should say that it costs, including the force to
run it, in the neighborhood of $40,000. A.
Mr. GILLETT. The trouble with your report is that we canyinot tell
anything about how your money is spent. You just put in inspec-
tors, clerks, etc., and do not say where they are.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 855
Mr. O'DONNELL. I can give you a statement showing the exact
force at Galveston. The point is, that your question asked how
much it cost to operate the Galveston “station.” Now, we had a
force at Galveston before we had a station. There was an office
there and we did our work on shipboard, consequently when it comes
to the cost of operating the “station” we must deduct from the gross
cost the normal expense we would have there even if we had no
building used for a station.
Mr. Grºrſ. Why should you deduct that ? I mean, what is the
cost of taking care of these 6,000 immigrants' A
Mr. O’DONNELL. Of the entire force there 3
Mr. GILLETT, Yes. t
Mr. O’DonnDLL. Of course, in that case you would include every-
thing, the salaries of men who were there before we had a building
and the salaries of the men there now. -
Mr. GILLETT. I mean the entire cost of regulating immigration.
About how much is that %
Mr. O'DonnELL. My estimate of $40,000 would probably cover
the whole thing.
NOTE:-The gross expense of the station at Galveston, Tex., for the fiscal year
1914 was $37,360.15.
Mr. GILLETT. You said before that you estimated that amount
excluding the other force, and I would suppose there would be some
difference. - …
Mr. O’DonnELL. If I gave that impression I beg the committee's
pardon. I did not mean to. I really meant to give you the cost of
maintaining the station as such, the building and the force to operate
it, in contradistinction to the force which would be there even if we
had no building.
Mr. GILLETT. And you said that the station itself would cost
about $40,000. -
Mr. O’DONNELL. I think that would cover it.
Mr. GILLETT. Then, how much would it be altogether ?
Mr. O'DonnELL. No; you misapprehend me. I think that the
estimate of $40,000 would cover the whole thing and without the
station building it would probably be $30,000.
Mr. GILLETT. Do we own the station ?
Mr. O'DONNELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. How much did it cost .
Mr. O'Donn FLL. $70,000 without the site. The site was given
to us.
- PHILADELPHIA, PA., LAUNCH.
The CHAIRMAN. “Philadelphia, Pa.; For purchase or construction
of a suitable vessel, $11,000.” -
Mr. O'DonnELL. At the present time we have under rental at
Philadelphia a launch for which we are paying $1,800 per annum.
The station is not located on an island. It is located at Gloucester
City, N., J., but the means of transportation from the terminus of,
the Gloucester ferry in Philadelphia to the various steamship docks
are so devious that some quicker and readier means of communica-
tion has been absolutely necessary and we therefore rented this
launch, which is at the present time meeting the requirements. It
856 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
is used to place officers on board the vessels for inspection purposes,
to deliver aliens on board vessels for deportation, and any other
emergency ferry work that might be required. As I understand it,
the ferry service from Philadelphia to Gloucester is only about
once every half hour and the trip by way of Camden is rather slow.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Mr. Chairman, I investigated that situation in
order to determine whether it was advisable to hire this boat and I
found that if we did not do so we would have to have additional
officers at that station which would cost us more money; hence it
was necessary to get this boat for official purposes. Philadelphia
has a large harbor front and it is very often necessary to go from
one place to another. It is unfortunate that the station is at Glouces-
ter. It ought never to have been put there. It should have been
located in the city of Philaelpia or else not have any at all; but we
have it there and must meet conditions as they are. In order to
perform the duties of the station, it was absolutely necessary that
we give them means of going from one place to another where their
duties called them. To do so by any other method would cause
us loss of time, which would require more officers to be detailed at
the Philadelphia station to do the ordinary work, and hence I recom-
mended to the Secretary the hiring of a boat. I think it is economy
to get this $11,000 boat, because that will serve all purposes for a
long time to come.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of a boat have you now %
Mr. CAMINETTI. It is just an ordinary launch that will accommo-
date about 25 or 30 people.
Mr. O'DonnELL. I have never seen it, but from the description I
think that is about right.
Mr. GILLETT. How many immigrants come in there 7
Mr. O’DONNELL. The immigration for the last fiscal year in Phila-
delphia was 59,529.
Mr. CAMINETTI. There are lots of ships that come into the harbor
that have to be guarded more or less on account of the sailors and
Chinese and others and that require boarding for that purpose. In
order to do that it is absolutely necessary that some means be given
those officers to reach the places where their duty is to be performed.
I did not like to hire this vessel, but I had to do it, and think it is
absolute economy to get the new boat.
Mr. MoMDELL. Would you buy an old boat or build a new one
Mr. CAMINETTI. I would rather build, if we can, because then we
would build the boat which by experience has been found to be suit-
able. We have bought some boats and from past experience we
know that we have made mistakes. We have one of that kind at
New Orleans now. Therefore, if the committee gives us the au-
thority to do this, the boat ought to be built according to the require-
ments that experience indicates should be met.
IMMIGRATION SERVICE.
The CHAIRMAN. “For enforcement of the laws regulating immigra-
tion of aliens,” etc. The appropriation is $2,649,500 and your esti-
mate is $2,928,000.
Mr. CAMINETTI. On that matter the Secretary instructed me on
yesterday to present to the committee his request, if it meet with
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 857
your approval, to allow the Department of Labor the amount called
for, for carrying on the immigration work by the Bureau of Immigra-
tion, with the assurance to the committee that we will follow the plan
we have already followed, knowing the desire of this committee of
making retrenchments in every way possible. We have done so
with the appropriation given us for this year.
The CHAIRMAN. You will have to show us you will need this amount
of money. You are asking for $300,000 more than you received this
year. The mere statement that the Secretary told you he would like
to have that amount of money is of no advantage to us in determining.
whether you will need that amount.
Mr. CAMINETTI. I appreciate what you say. t
The CHAIRMAN. We should know what the needs of the service are
going to be. - -
Mr. CAMINETTI. I was simply conveying his request, and if it is
borne out by the facts, of course we would ask the committee to
consider it. If not, the committee has in its power to do as it thinks
best. The increase over last year is found to be $278,500, and that
increase the Secretary asks me to request the committee to allow
him to withdraw.
The CHAIRMAN. You mean that what you are asking for now is
$2,649,500 % -
Mr. CAMINETTI. Yes, sir.
TOTAL NUMBER, OF IMMIGRANTS.
| See p. 853.]
The CHAIRMAN. What was the number of immigrants entering the
United States last year 2
Mr. O'DonnELL. One million four hundred and three thousand
and eighty-one. - -
The CHAIRMAN. How many immigrants are we getting this year }
Mr. O'DONNELL. From July to November, inclusive, of the current
fiscal year the immigration was 248,436. The average annual immi-
gration for the fiscal years 1910 to 1914, inclusive, is 1,215,160.
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose you give it to us for each year }
Mr. O'Donnell. 1910, 1,198,037; 1911, 1,030,300; 1912, 1,017,155;
1913, 1,427,227. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. How has it been in November and December 7
Mr. O'DonnELL. The figures I gave you included November, and
the immigration for the first half of this fiscal year is 287,921.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you not think you had better put in the record
that information for the same six months of the preceding years
Mr. O'Donn ELL. I can give you the average for the preceding four
years. f
Mr. GILLETT. For the first six months.
Mr. O’DONNELL. The average semiannual immigration for the first
half of the fiscal years 1910 to 1914, inclusive, is 588,347. The per-
centage of decrease, therefore, for the first half of the current fiscal
year as compared with a like period for the preceding five years is 51
er Cent. *
p Mr. GILLETT. There is not much difference as to immigration in the
two halves of the year. I supposed there was. -
858 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. O'DONNELL. No; for the last few years it has run about the
same all the year through. It used to vary greatly. It used to be
higher in the spring and summer, but for the last several years it has
been different. -- - - :
The CHAIRMAN. For the first six months of the present fiscal year
the immigration has fallen off about 50 per cent as compared with the
average for the last four or five years?
Mr. O'DONNELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Is the general falling off from all countries, or has
it been particularly noticeable from certain countries 3
Mr. O'Donn ELL. Of course, the countries directly affected by the
present war show the greatest falling off. For example, the Scandi-
navian countries are still sending immigrants here and the Mediter-
ranean countries not involved in the war are sending immigrants
here—Greece and Italy.
Mr. GILLETT. Are they sending immigrants in normal amounts :
Mr. O'DONNELL. I can not say they are normal. The number is
decreased somewhat, but still they are coming in.
Mr. CAMINETTI. At this time of the year, from August on, there
has always been a falling off for some years in the amount of immi-
gration, even during normal times, from the countries that have Sup-
plied immigrants. Of course the nations at war have not supplied
many immigrants directly, although some few have come from other
countries. It must be borne in mind that while immigration is cut
down, the overhead expense for conducting the service is not mate-
rially affected. As far as it has been affected, we have endeavored
to cut down expenses. We have furloughed officers and have made
a saving in that way, and we can give you an estimate of that saving.
FURLOUGHING OF EMPLOYEEs DUE TO EUROPEAN WAR.
The CHAIRMAN. You have been furloughing a large number of
employees?
Mr. CAMINETTI. Yes, sir; on account of the falling off of immi-
gration. -
The CHAIRMAN. Can you give a statement showing what has been
the practige It does not affect particular inspectors, does it?
\º O’Don NELL. It affects all of the inspection force; that is, the
persons who are particularly employed in inspection work, but it
affects in much less degree such employees as the mechanical em-
ployees. Obviously if a boiler has to i. fired, requiring a crew of fire-
men, with three shifts in 24 hours, the fact that you are operating a
building requires that the boiler should be fired irrespective of whether
the number of occupants of that building is small or large; and that
is what the Commissioner General refers to as overhead expenses;
that is, normal expenses that would go on no matter whether the
immigration was large or small, unless we absolutely close up the
immigration station, which, of course, we can not do. The furlough
plan affects the force, which consists primarily of inspectors, inter-
preters, watchmen, matrons, and the clerical force employed in inspec-
tion work.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Reductions have been made not only at Ellis
Island, the case that we cited, but the whole service has been taken
as a unit, and a reduction of such number in each section as could
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be made has been made throughout the Republic. It has not been
made applicable only to New York, but all of the stations have been
forced to give up the number of employees that could be spared tem-
porarily, in order to save, as much as possible. We have done so,
and we commenced to do it immediatel -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). What you have been doing is this:
Those employees whose services are directly affected, or the employ-
ments directly affected by the volume of immigration, have come un-
der this system. You have adopted a system by which you furlough
such employees? -
Mr. O’Donn ELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is that plan'. f -
Mr. O'Donn ELL. A careful survey was made of the forces at each
of the stations throughout the country affected by this war condi-
tion, and a determination was reached as to what proportion of the
force could be dispensed with, without absolutely crippling the work
that had to be done from day to day, and instead of dismissing so
many employees, it was decided that it would be better in the long
run and accomplish the same result in a financial way if this burden
could be divided among the employees of these respective classes.
Consequently, the number of men that it was calculated could be
spared are being furloughed from month to month, commencing on
December 1, and that has now developed into a regular system of
furloughs, the amount of Saving to be effected having been designated
by the department at the inception of the plan, based on actual figures.
The CHAIRMAN. You furlough a man for one month?
Mr. O’DONNELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And he comes back and somebody else goes out
for a month'.
Mr. O'DonnELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. How much was saved in December by that plan?
º O'Dossºm. T)o you want the number of men or the amount
S8, VGCL
The CHAIRMAN. Give it both ways.
Mr. DONNELL. At New York there were 64 employees furloughed
in T)ecember out of a total inspection force of about 2-0, or approxi-
mately one-fourth of the force. Approximately 2.0 people compose
the actual “inspection force” and the remainder of the force there is
made up of laborers, firemen, and other mechanical employees
whose services can not be dispensed with. So we estimate for the
remainder of the year, based upon what we have so far succeeded in
doing, and which, as I said, has now gotten to be a regular system—
we figure that we will save in the neighborhood of $300,000.
Mr. GILLETT. Why do you want to keep three-fourths of your
force of inspectors in New York, when you have only one-half of the
immigration that you formerly had 7
Mr. O'DONNELL. Before this system went into effect we had filled
no vacancies for four months and had transferred men from New
York to fill vacancies when they occurred elsewhere and when they
had to be filled. §: -
Mr. GILLETT. How many did that take care of ? -
Mr. O'DONNELL. I should say that took away from New York
probably 25 or 30, in addition to those that were furloughed, and we
have filled no vacancies of any kind since the 1st of August.
860 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. Your statement of an estimated saving of $300,000
on account of the curtailment of the service applies to all of the
country and not to New York alone 3 - -
Mr. O'DONNELL. Throughout the entire country. t
Mr. CAMINETTI. I would like to state in answer to Mr. Gillett's
suggestion as to the reduction of the force that we can not reduce it
proportionately. You can not make a reduction of the force in pro-
portion with the reduction of immigration, because ships are still
coming in. We can not direct or determine when ships shall come.
A ship may arrive to-day, and then perhaps none may come for two
days, but we have to keep ready for any that do reach our ports.
Then on another day four or five or six or seven ships may enter.
Therefore we have to keep a sufficient force to meet that contingency.
Hence it has not been thought practicable or ādvisable to cut down
the force too much; otherwise there would be the objection raised
that we were interfering with commerce and passenger traffic.
Mr. GILLETT. How do you do at the Smaller places where you do
not have so many men ;
Mr. O’Don NELL. Our service is divided into districts, and in making
those furloughs we have worked them out by districts. Let me give
you one illustration of that: We have two inspectors on furlough in
the Jacksonville district, which comprises the States of Florida, Ala.
bama, Georgia, and South Carolina, and there are in that district seven
ports. Now, we let two men go out of the entire district, which
means that we withdrew the men from the stations where there were
more than one and have doubled up the work of the one man who
remains, sending a relief man elsewhere to take the place of the man
at the one-man station, and in that way each takes his proportion of
the furlough burden. We do this by way of transfer and not by
detail, and consequently we effect a saving of that man's Salary during
the time he is on furlough. That is the way it is worked out through-
out the entire service. -
Mr. GILLETT. I have a letter from a man who was an interpreter,
but he was dropped out and did not go on furlough. -
Mr. O’DONNELL. That is the case of T. H. Lee, of Helena, Mont.
That is an interior office where the amount of Chinese interpreting
was so small that we concluded we could get along without him except
for a few days at a time. So we employ him now as occasion demands.
It is the intention, however, to place him elsewhere as soon as a
vacancy occurs in the position of Chinese interpreter.
IMMIGRATION FROM CANADA.
I would like to say in that connection that the situation on the
Canadian border his not been changed by the war except for the
worse. Canada was full of people who wanted to get out of there
after war was declared. Mr ny of them were desirable from the
Canadian standpoint, where the immigration laws are liberal
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). To you refer to Chinese ?
Mr. O'Donnell. No, sir; to European aliens. They were desirable
as settlers on farms, but they were not desirable according to our laws,
and I might sºy that at one time there were 800 men reported at one
point on the border, all of them inadmissible, but who were seeking
to cross the line. That was at Niagara Falls.
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Mr. GILLETT. Why were they inadmissible?
Mr. O'Donn ELL. They were obviously likely to become public
charges. They had lost their employment and were destitute.
There was no work for them on this side of the line, and they would
have been dependents from the moment they landed. Consequently
in such situations the burden that his been thrown upon the officers
on the Canadian border h; s been grew ter th; n in normal times.
Mr. CAMINETTI. The city of Seattle and other cities of the North-
west have been strongly objecting to people coming in from Canada.
Times are bad in Canada, and work there is giving out. People have
been discharged, and in some places men who are from the countries
that are at war with England have for that reason been discharged
from their employment there, the Canadians hoping to get rid of
them in that way. They use that method of getting rid of them, and
then the only recourse left the discharged men is to smuggle into the
United States or come before out officers to pass the test prescribed
by the law. Many of those who can not pass the test try to steal in.
You must remember that we have a border nearly 4,000 miles long,
and it is very hard to watch is throughout with the few men we have,
even under normal conditions. Under normal conditions we have
not a sufficient number of offivers provided on either the northern or
the southern border to properly carry out and enforce the laws. We
have not a sufficient number now and never have had.
The CHAIRMAN. And you never can have enough. You can never
do that unless you fence the border.
Mr. CAMINETTI. I have outlined in my report for this year a plan
that, if it should meet with your approval, would meet the situation.
The question is this, whether we want to carry out the law or whether
we want to wink at violations of the law.
The CHAIRMAN. You want to take every reasonable precaution to
enforce the law, but the only way you could absolutely prevent people
from coming across the border would be to fence it. You can not
º of any way of patrolling it so as to stop people from crossing
the line.
Mr. CAMINETTI. If you have the time, I would like to have you
look over that part of my report for this year providing for that very
service. The suggestions made are based on #. experience we have
had. Following the system we organized last March we have appre-
hended 75 smugglers; we want to amplify that system in the next
year, if you will permit us to do so. We think that we can give you
good returns upon it, if you will permit it in making appropriations.
It has been a matter of regret that we have had to cut down the force
on the northern and southern borders, but we have had to do it in
deference to the proposition that as immigration fell it might be ex-
pected that we would curtail our expenditures. I think there has been
some loss to the service, not only because of the reduced number of
officers on the northern and southern borders, but by virtue of having
to furlough officers we have had to release men who were efficient.
The men of efficiency who get the salaries that we give them can
always get work elsewhere. I have already found that we have lost
at New York and other places some men who were very efficient.
That is one of the reasons why we suggest that the entire sum asked
for be allowed; that is, because after this fiscal year, after we get

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get back to normal conditions, this would save to us the balance of
the efficient force that we have. The inefficient men can not easily
get employment, but the efficient men can, and we are losing them.
The CHAIRMAN. The conditions are such that you are not likely to
lose any, are you? The conditions are such that good men are look-
ing for employment?
r. CAMINETTI. Yes, sir.
REDUCTION OF APPROPRIATION DUE TO EUROPEAN WAR.
Mr. O’DONNELL. In discussing this matter with the Secretary
yesterday, as to the amount of appropriation that we are asking for,
he suggested that we make this point clear to the committee: We do
not know how soon this war condition is going to change. We have
shown a desire to reduce expenditures, and we are reducing expendi-
tures. That is an established and ascertained fact, and if the Con-
gress sees fit to give us the appropriation for which we ask, the Secre-
tary asked me to convey his assurance to the committee that we
would continue, and extend, if necessary, the measures of economy
we have adopted in deference to the Ordinary business requirements
of such a situation. But if the immigration should come on following
the war, as it undoubtedly would, and if the war were to suddemly
cease, as it may do, and we were caught with an inadequate force to
meet it, we would be in a very serious situation, particularly if
Congress should not be in session.
The CHAIRMAN. Why does everybody assume that when this war is
ended there is going to be a largely increased immigration ?
º
Mr. O'DONNELL. I have not assumed that, but I am referring to
normal immigration.
The CHAIRMAN. But a great many people say that when the war is
ended immigration will naturally increase. I think that conditions
in those countries at the close of the war will be such that oppor-
tunities that have not existed heretofore will be afforded and that
the people will remain there. ... I do not agree with a good many that
there will be a large influx of immigrants after the war, and I won-
dered if vou had any theory upon which you based that belief ?
Mr. O'DONNELL. I assume that it will come nearer to what it was,
but I am not assuming that everybody will try to come, and I may say
that the Secretary has expressed a view almost identical with the one
you have just enunciated.
The CHAIRMAN. Of course there will probably be an increase; but
I do not believe there will be any great influx of persons from abroad
at the close of the war. There has been a large immigration due to
the fact that the supply of labor in foreign countries has been in excess
of the demand, but when they get through exterminating those who
are best capable of producing the other people will have a chance.
Mr. CAMINETTI. We have not been getting the people who are best
fit for producing, because they have kept them in the army.
h The CHAIRMAN. Then there would be a chance for the others at
OIſlé. -
Mr. CAMINETTI. We will continue to draw from the same class that
we have always drawn from—that is, the class that possibly has not
been best fitted to enter the army there—and at the close of the war
they will be ready at the first opportunity to rush out. While we do
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not anticipate any increase next year over last year, there is no ques-
tion but there will be an increase when the war ends. If the war
should end, we will require our officers to be back on duty. If this
increase should come at a time when Congress was not in session, we
would be in a bad predicament. If the increase should come while
Congress was in session, of course we could appear before this com—
mittee and suggest a resolution to meet the situation. Therefore, in
order that we may be in a position to meet any contingency or emer-
gency that may arise or that is likely to come, the Secretary requested
us to put this matter before the committee, promising that the same
degree of retrenchment that has been adopted and carried out since
this condition arose will be continued.
CHINESE-EXCLUSION ACTS, ENFORCEMENT OF.
The CHAIRMAN. Under this appropriation you employ the persons
who are engaged in the enforcement of the various exclusion acts 2
Mr. O'DonnELL. Yes, sir; everybody. *.
The CHAIRMAN. Distinct forces are not maintained under each law?
Mr. O'DONNELL. No, sir; it is entirely amalgamated into one
mobile service.
The CHAIRMAN. I notice in the report of the commissioner general
an intimation that the consolidation of the Chinese exclusion appro-
priation with the immigration appropriation has in some ways
interfered with the proper execution of the law. I do not know
whether the commissioner general is familiar with what happened,
but those appropriations were consolidated at the urgent request
of the Immigration Service, because, as they insisted, one force for
all classes of the work could be utilized to better advantage.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Under the previous system an appropriation of
$500,000 was given by Congress for the purpose of carrying out and
enforcing the exclusion laws, and now, under this system, there is
not that much money used for that purpose.
The CHAIRMAN. There never was that much used for that purpose.
Mr. CAMINETTI. But there was that much appropriated from year
to year. §
The CHAIRMAN. It was appropriated but not used. That was not
because of the sentiment of Congress, because Congress complained
about the failure to expend the money. It is wholly within the con-
trol of the department now not only to expend $500,000, but to
spend $1,000,000 of that money for Chinese-exclusion work.
Mr. CAMINETTI. But we can not do that, because if we spend too
mfuch in one line of work we would injure some of the other lines of
work that possibly are equally as important, and as we can not antici-
pate what the future may bring forth, we have to keep these various
operations down.
The CHAIRMAN. It was one of the contentions that the services of
a man engaged on immigration work generally could frequently be
utilized on Chinese-exclusion work at a considerable saving, because
it would save the expense of sending a man from some other territory.
Mr. CAMINETTI. I am not finding any fault with that. I think
you are quite right.
The CHAIRMAN. The statement in your report would indicate that
a criticism of Congress was intended for doing the very thing that
the service for years had been insisting was of very great advantage
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Mr. CAMINETTI. It was only intended, if I may say, in this way,
that owing to the danger we have of expending too much in the way
of enforcing this law *
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). It was not accompanied by any
reduction of your appropriation, but it was accompanied by an
increase of it.
Mr. CAMINETTI. It would prevent us from carrying out the balance
of the law. *
The CHAIRMAN. No, sir; this sum was added to the amount car-
ried for the balance of the service, and there has been no decrease
in the amount, but a steady increase. It was insisted then that the
work could be done more effectively by consolidation. I have no
doubt that Congress would be glad to segregate this appropriation
in many ways if it were urged by the department to do so.
Now, what has been the situation relative to the contract-labor
law during the past year' -
Mr. CAMINETTI. Very good. We have collected some large fines
during the past year, besides having made progress in the enforce-
ment of the law.
Mr. O’DONNELL. We collected in immigration fines last year
$101,674, and a large part of that was contract-labor fines. As the
chairman will doubtless recall, we had one fine of $50,000, out of
which we paid an informer's fee of $25,000. That was allowed in a
deficiency bill passed last summer. Of that $101,000 collected, I
should assume, although I have not separate figures for it, that prob-
ably $7,000 or $50,000 is represented by fines under the contract-
labor law.
The CHAIRMAN. Are there many cases arising under that law Ż
Mr. O'DONNELL. There are cases constantly being investigated,
but all of them, from one cause or another, do not reach a stage that
would justify prosecution. In other words, there are cases where
there is sufficient evidence adduced to justify the deportation of an
alien, but where, according to the rules of legal evidence that would
have to be adduced in a court under the technical rules of evidence,
no recovery of a fine could be had.
The CHAIRMAN. What number has been deported ?
Mr. O'DonnELL. The number of contract laborers deported on
warrants—that is, after they had gotten into the country—was 51.
Mr. GILLETT. How much was collected in fines :
Mr. O'Donn ELL. $101,000 was collected in fines.
Mr. GILLETT. Then, out of that would have to come the rewards :
Mr. O’DonnDLL. Yes, sir.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Twenty-seven hundred and ninety-three wºre
del arred. -
Mr. O'DONNELL. Those previously mentioned were returned after
landing. Twenty-seven hundred and ninety-three were del arred on
account of being contract laborers as against 1,624 of the same class
for the fiscal year 1913. -
Mr. GILLETT. On which class do you spend the greater amount of
money, of contract la' orers or Chinese ?
Mr. O'DonnELL. For the reasons which have already been ex-
plained, the thing is so woven together that it would be almost im-
possible to tell, but I think more is expended on account of the
Chinese.
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Mr. CAMINETTI. There is more expended on account of the Chinese
because it costs more money to send them out of the country.
Mr. O'DonnELL. A great deal of money is spent in paying the de-
portation expenses of those arrested here and ordered deported.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Particular attention has been given to the contract-
labor law, and the enforcement of that law has been improved
materially during the last year, as I state in my report.
Mr. O'Donn ELL. That is indicated by the fact that there was an
increase of 50 per cent in the number debarred in the last fiscal year.
In fact, it was more than 50 per cent, because it is 2,793, as against
1,624 in the previous year.
The CHAIRMAN. What has been the situation relative to the exclu-
sion of Chinese ?
Mr. CAMINETTI. There has been an improvement there also.
Mr. GILLETT. Put in the record a statement of what you have done
with reference to the exclusion of Chinese, as compared with what was
done in previous years.
Mr. O'DONNELL. Yes, sir. I might add at this point that during
the fiscal year ended June 30, 1914, we returned or deported 748
Chinese, as against 409 for the preceding fiscal year. Then, in
addition to that, there were returned under the provisions of the
Chinese-exclusion law 127 persons in the last fiscal year, as against 157
in the preceding fiscal year. The falling off in that respect is explained
by the increase under the other head, That is due to the fact that
we now handle a large number of Chinese cases under the immigration
laws that were formerly handled under the Chinese-exclusion law.
The CHAIRMAN. In what way ?
Mr. O’DONNELL. We arrest them under department warrants
when we catch them coming in instead of going before a United
States commissioner and going through a cumbersome court pro-
cedure——-
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). That does not indicate the number
of Chinese excluded. -
Mr. O'DONNELL. That is the number arrested in the country and
returned under the Chinese-exclusion laws, but not those who applied
for admission and were debarred.
The CHAIRMAN. Your statement does not show that.
Mr. O’DONNELL. No, sir. The number of Chinese debarred at
the ports of entry was 401 in the fiscal year 1914, as against 402 in
the fiscal year 1913.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean that they were debarred under the
Chinese-exclusion actº
Mr. O’DONNELL. I take it that all of them were excluded under
Chinese laws, because we very seldom exclude Chinese under the
immigration laws.
Mr. GILLETT. I suppose so. - -
Mr. O'DONNELL. A few diseased persons are found and excluded,
but the number is very small.
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any particular activity in attempt—
ing to smuggle Chinese into the country?
r. O'DONNELL. Very considerable. The war conditions in Mex-
ico, the inhospitable conditions down there, have not tended to keep
them in the Republic of Mexico, and they have given us a rather diffil
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cult time on the Mexican border. Likewise the business depression
in Canada has stimulated the efforts of smugglers in that country,
and, as the Commissioner General previously indicated, there has been
a system in vogue since last March which has proven very successful
in meeting the situation. It has not only resulted in the capture of
the Chinese, but, what is more important, the arrest and conviction
in many cases of their white smugglers. If we can put the white
smugglers in jail and make it a presarious business to smuggle Chi-
nese, it will go a long way in solving the problem, because the Chinese
are very inapt to smuggle themselves into the country.
Mr. CAMINETTI. There were 75 smugglers arrested up to the time
of making my report, and since then about 20. We are after the
smugglers and apprehend them with good results, even with the force
we now have. I would like, Mr. Chairman, for you to look over my
suggestion as to the border patrol, because I think, based upon the
oxperience we have had with this system, with a very little addition
we can get much better results next year.
The CHAIRMAN. I shall be glad to do so if I have the time.
Mr. CAMINETTI. It does not involve a great amount of expense,
not necessarily the amount one would imagine would be required, in
order to prevent Smuggling.
PER, DIEM IN LIEU OF SUBSISTENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. Is your per diem in lieu of subsistence $4%
Mr. O'DonnDLL. In the discretion of the Secretary not to exceed
$4 per diem. I will state, in order that you may understand that there
is method in the language we suggest, that we have made that amount
allowa'le only in the discretion of the Secretary rather than abso-
lu ely, because there are some cases where $4 would be too much, and
therefore the allowance of the per diem is made discretionary with the
Secretary. .'
The CHAIRMAN. You fix it to fit the particular case ?
Mr. CAMINETTI, We had a matter of that kind come up the other
day. Wo have a lot of one-man stations on the border, and in making
changes on tho furlough system we could have authorized, as suggested
by the commissioner at Montreal, allowance at a less amount than $4,
thus making a material saving, because at one-man stations when an
officer is relieved and another takes his place he makes his arrange-
ments for board and lodging at $8 or $10 a week; therefore his
expense is not $4 a day. - *
Mr. O'Donn FLL. We do not allow any per diem in connection with
furloughs. Tris is in connection with the men who are relieved
either because of sickness or other absence.
Mr. CAMINETTI. I meant to say that. In a case of a one-man sta-
tion where the expense will only be $8 or $10 a week it will permit
us to make the order to cover such a case as that and thereby result in
a great saving. -
Mr. O'Donnºll. The point is this: The present law undoubtedly
gives the Secretary authority and fixes the maximum. In a case like
the one I mentioned an employee will fall ill and a substitute must be
sent, and it would be unfair to the substitute to take him away from
his home, where his family is living, and send him to a strange place
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for a month or two without allowing expenses. This proposition will
give the Secretary the authority, which I think he has under the
present law, to allow this per diem only in his discretion, so that he
can fix the per diem in some cases at less than $4, and thereby avoid
mulcting the Government for an unreasonable amount. It is to
reimburse him for his actual expenses, but not to allow him to draw
$4 when he is only obliged to expend $1.
MOTOR, VEHICLES.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking that $2,500 may be expended in
the operation, maintenance, and repair of motor vehicles owned by
the Immigration Service. Are these passenger-carrying vehicles?
Mr. O’DONNELL. Two of them are. e
The CHAIRMAN. Where are they
Mr. O'DONNELL. One is at El Paso, Tex., and the other at Tucson,
Ariz.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they automobiles'
Mr. O’DONNELL. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you stations at both places .
Mr. O'DONNELL. Yes, sir. The automobiles are for general use
at the stations; they are not used by any particular officer. Tucson
is a freight-car station, meaning by that that the officers have to
open and inspect freight cars, looking for contraband Chinese loaded
in those cars at points away from the border after having been
smuggled. Every car is opened and examined for contraband
Chinese. It has been found however, that when the work was
merely done in Tucson the smugglers would unload their Chinese
at a point east of Tucson, take them around in an automobile, and
load them into the car again at some point west of Tucson. To
meet that situation we had to meet steel with steel by providing a
motor Vehicle to go out to those Outlying stations and make inspec-
tions at unexpected points and irregular times, and we have pretty
well broken up that plan of smuggling in that vicinity.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of cars are they
Mr. O’DONNELL. The car at El Paso is a Case touring car, made
by the Case Threshing Machine Co.
Mr. GILLETT. What did it cost 7
Mr. O'DONNELL. It was purchased two years ago at the lowest
price submitted for the kind of cars of the horsepower desired, and
COSt $1,900.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the other car'.
Mr. O'Donn ELL. A. Ford car used at El Paso for the same pur-
pose, and which cost $550, approximately. Then there is a motor
truck at the Angel Island station. It is not a passenger-carrying
truck.
The CHAIRMAN. Motor passenger-carrying vehicles are the only
ones provided for here
Mr. O'DONNELL. I put that in out of an excess of precaution. We
did not want to keep back anything that the committee might want.
That is the only other automobile we have.
The CIIAIRMAN. What does it cost to operate and maintain the two
automobiles' -
Mr. O’Don NET.I.. The truck would not cost over $500 a year at the
outside.
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PAYMENTS TO MAURICE, BURMAN AND HARRY KYMAN.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “To pay to Maurice Burman
and Harry Kyman, for information that led to the collection of
$2,000 in penalties from J. Mandleberg & Co. (Limited), of New
York, N. Y., for importing aliens under contract, in violation of the
immigration laws, $500 each, $1,000 º’’ -
Mr. O'DonnDLL. The fine which was collected from that concern
was $2,000. The men were mackintosh makers, and the act of: Go-
tober 19, 1888, authorizes the payment of an informer's fee to not
exceed 50 per cent of the amount recovered. These men voluntarily
came forward and tendered their services, spent considerable time in
waiting about, and finally appeared as witnesses for the Government,
with the result indicated. We collected this fine of $2,000.
PROVIDENCE, R. I., STATION.
The CHAIRMAN. Some inquiries have been made in regard to the
Providence (R. I.) station. What is the situation ? -
Mr. CAMINETTI. The situation is this: The officials of the State of
Rhode Island have built a magnificent pier and provided quarters
for the Immigration Service upon the second floor, a very complete
organization throughout. Then they have built, in addition to the
pier, detention quarters formerly used for administration as well
as detention purposes, promising, however, to put them in such
order as the department might desire for detention purposes in case
the committee provided an appropriation for the purpose of main-
taining a station at Providence. They want to rent us those quarters
for $2,500 a year and provide everything the Government might
need in case it establishes a station there. We have now a station
there practically by detailing officers from Boston, but they urge
that detention quarters be located there so as to avoid sending the
immigrants to Boston upon the arrival of ships.
The CHAIRMAN. Can not you establish one there; must it be
established by law Ż
Mr. CAMINETTI. The expenditure must be provided for in the com-
ing appropriation. Of course, we could establish one there, but it
for this committee to give us the extra amount in the appropriation
for the purpose of providing for it. -
The CHAIRMAN. Are each of the places where you have stations
places that specific statute has authorized the establishment of a
station ? -
Mr. O'DonnDLL. No, sir; except where we own the building.
Mr. GILLETT. Out of this $43,000 rent appropriation you could
establish the station if you desired ? .
Mr. O’DONNELL. The $43,000 represents property already under
lease in various parts of the country. *
Mr. GILLETT. You could use other portions of your appropriation?
Mr. O’Donn ELL. Unquestionably. There is no question of the
authority of the Secretary to rent the station and open it if he felt
that he had the funds to do so. This proposition came up when
immigration was normal, and when we did not have any more money
than we could use. . Now, of course, for the time being we could very
readily take care of the Providence station.
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The CHAIRMAN. You do not have much immigration there?
Mr. O'DONNELL. The immigration has fallen off there, too.
..Mr. GILLETT. How many immigrants did you have last year }
Mr. O'DONNELL. Ten thousand eight hundred and eighty-two.
Mr. GILLETT. How much money did it cost -
Mr. O'DONNELL. We only had one man, Mr. Sullivan, the inspector
in charge. I think he receives $2,100 a year. .
Mr. GILLETT. Then in Providence you are getting 10,000 and you
have only one man, while at Galveston you are spending $40,000 for
6,000 and have a building that cost the Government $75,000?
Mr. CAMINETTI. When a ship comes in, we send officers from Boston
to attend to the work. - -- -
Mr. GILLETT. There is a tremendous disproportion between Gal-
veston and Providence, is there not ?
Mr. O'DONNELL. Unquestionably so; yes, sir. .
Mr. GILLETT. It seems to me to spend $2,500 a year for what I
understand is a very commodious building at Providence is ridicu-
lously cheap compared, for instance, to what you are spending at
Galveston. -
Mr. O’DONNELL. Let me point this out: As it is now when a ship
arrives at Providence, we send officers there from Boston. -
Mr. GILLETT. Then it would save you the men you bring now from
Boston 7 - -
Mr. O’Don NELL. The way the matter has been arranged so far, I
do not think it has increased the cost of maintaining the station at
Boston one cent. We have not maintained an officer that we would
not have had to maintain there to handle the Boston business. We
have simply had to double the work up and handle it the best we
could. . -
Mr. GILLETT. That must mean you had more men than you needed
at Boston 7 H - -
Mr. O’DONNELL. There are a good many features of this work that
can be postponed until day after tomorrow instead of doing them
to-day when it would be better to have them done to-day.
Mr. CAMINETTI. The department is willing to establish a station
at Providence and is ready to recommend that if that question comes
up in the committee. & - *-
Mr. GILLETT. There is no way for it to come up in the committee.
You say you have plenty of money for it'. - -
Mr. CAMINETTI. We have now because we are trying to save money
and are cutting down expenses, but in normal times we have not and
hence we want sufficient funds to maintain the Providence station.
Mr. GILLETT. What do you mean by authorizations? We do not
authorize any particular place. We simply give you a lump sum.
Mr. O'DONNELL. What the Commissioner General means is this:
At the last regular session of Congress the gentlemen from Providence
who urged this matter had attention called to the fact that we were
then obligated up to our limit and that their remedy was by way of
getting an increased appropriation, and it was taken up here in the
committee and the department recommended an increased appropria-
tion for that object. Now, the same situation does not exist, and
while we could at present incur the expense of opening a station at
Providence, when normal conditions were resumed we would be just
that much in the hole. - -
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Mr. GILLETT. It seems to me the question is, Is it a wise or an
extravagant use of money to establish this station ? You know that,
and we do not. It seems to me that this is either a wise expenditure
of money or that Galveston is a ridiculously extravagant expenditure
of money.
Mr. O'DONNELL. The Galveston station was thrust on us, let me
*{i, The department never recommended it. -
• ... GILLETT. It looks to me like a situation which I confess we
have before us quite often of Members of Congress wanting something
and the department saying, “Go to the Appropriations Committee
and get them to give us more money and we will give it to you,”
whereas you have plenty of money and the only question is how you
should use it, and if this is an economical place to use it you ought to
use it for that purpose. -
Mr. CAMINETTI. We have never said that we want the Members
to do that and we do not tell them that. We are willing now to
establish this station at Providence, but of course that will involve
more than $2,500 per annum. It will involve a rental charge of
$2,500 per annum and salaries of additional officers, aggregating in
the neighborhood of between ten and fourteen thousand dollars
per annum. - -
Mr. GILLETT. Why would it not reduce salaries at Boston, because
that work has to be done now at Providence by Boston officers ?
Mr. CAMINETTI. For instance, a boat comes in to-day at Provi-
dence; the officers go down there simply for that day and go back
to Boston. -
hº GILLETT. Why could they not still do that if you had a station
there 7 * -
Mr. O'Donn ELL. We have a station in Boston where there are
watchmen, laborers, and charwomen, and a force of that kind to do
all the work of maintaining a station, and it is some job, considering
the character of people we have to hold in it. Obviously it would
not reduce the force one penny at Boston.
Mr. GILLETT. Why would it not reduce the inspection force :
Mr. O'DONNELL. The inspection force would continue, undoubtedly,
to be sent down so far as they could be just as they have in the past,
but having a station there we would have to have more than one
inspector there all the time. An inspector can not be on duty 24
hours a day and our rule is that at all times, where there is a station
with aliens in detention there must be an inspector on call ready to
attend to business at any time. So we would have to have at least
two more inspectors there and we will have to have a clerk and a
watch force, a char force, and a laboring force, and also the incidental
expenses such as fuel, light, and water and a thousand and one details
that always come up in a case of that kind, and as the Commissioner
General says that would probably increase the expense over what it
is now from $10,000 to $14,000 a year, as near as I can estimate it.
We can take care of that now, but we would be just that much to the
bad when normal times resume.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Pardon us for saying that the reason we want the
committee to understand that this would add to the expense is that
when normal times are resumed provision ought to be made for the
extra amount thus incurred. There are a number of ambitious
places in this country that want stations and we think we are helping
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the committee as well as helping the Government in being particular
about establishing such stations.
Mr. GILLETT.’ I think you are quite right.
Mr. CAMINETTI. And we want to consult the committee possibly
not in relation to whether or not a station ought to be established,
but as to whether or not we should incur the extra expense because
as I say, we have a lot of ambitious places in this country much
smaller than Providence. We are ready to recommend Providence
and ready to act upon Providence, but we do not like to act upon it
temporarily between now and June 30 unless the committee is
willing to state that the additional money
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Do not think I am trying to influ-
ence you to create any more stations because I am not.
Mr. CAMINETTI. I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, the desire of the
department as well as the bureau is to keep expenses down and not
to start any new system of administration that will add to expenses
in the future without consulting the committee in time.
The CHAIRMAN. This committee does not propose to direct you as
to how you shall spend your money by legislation. This appro-
priation is given to the service with the expectation it will be spent
in a manner that is best for the service. The administrative details
can not be settled by legislation.
Mr. GILLETT. I understood you to say that Galveston was not
desired by the department. Did not the department recommend
Galveston ?
Mr. O’DONNELL. In 1907 there was an epidemic of authorizing
immigration stations. There were three authorized at that time;
one at Galveston, one at New Orleans, and one at Charleston, and in
none of those three cases was the department consulted, but the law
was mandatory and directed that the thing be done, and in each case
$70,000 was provided. Galveston was one of those cases. I hold
no brief for the man who selected the site at Galveston. - -
The CHAIRMAN. It is on an island covered by water at high tide :
Mr. O’DONNELL. The law did not say that the station should be
put there and consequently no blame attaches to Congress for any
mistake in that direction. º
TRANSFER OF ANGEL ISLAND STATION TO ALCATRAZ ISLAND.
Mr. CAMINETTI. Mr. Chairman, may I bring up one subject, and
that is the proposed transfer of the Angel Island station to Alcatraz
Island Ž As you have noticed in the last two estimates we have
asked for nothing for permanent improvements at Angel Island.
Mr. GILLETT. Where is Angel Island 7
Mr. CAMINETTI. In San Francisco Harbor. It lies immediately
north of San Francisco near the Marin County shore. It is quite a
distance from San Francisco and there is not enough space there for
what is required for a station of that character at that place. When
the War Department offered to turn over Alcatraz Island we thought
it was a good thing for the Government to acquire that, as it would
save the initial cost of construction of buildings and purchase of land.
The buildings are excellent and most of them are fireproof; some of
the best buildings that the Government owns on the Pacific coast
and therefore it would be a great gain.
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Mr. GILLETT. What are the buildings used for now %
Mr. CAMINETTI. Practically nothing, as I understand it.
Mr. GILLETT. What were they built for 7
Mr. CAMINETTI. The island was used at one time as a fort and then
as a United States prison, but the War Department has changed the
system and can turn those buildings over for the Immigration Service.
Now, the Government is getting the value of those buildings, which
runs into the millions, also a station nearer San Francisco, where it
will only take about as long as it takes to go from the Battery to
Ellis Island, whereas it now takes about six times that long to reach
the present station. -
Mr. GILLETT. Would it not cost more to run them :
Mr. CAMINETTI. Very little more, because if we stay at Angel
Island we would be compelled to make improvements there that
would cost possibly indirectly as much as it would cost us to go to
Alcatraz Island. If we are to make the change it is advisable that
the change be made at an early date, particularly at this time when
there is a lull in immigration; possibly we may be able to take care
of the cost of the transfer out of the present appropriation and get
ready by the first of the next fiscal year. The matter is pending in
the House now, I understand, Mr. Chairman, on a favorable report
from the Committee on Military Affairs.
The CHAIRMAN. The War Department recently spent a quarter of
a million dollars out there, did they not ? -
Mr. CAMINETTI. That was some years back'
The CHAIRMAN. No; not a great while ago. -
Mr. CAMINETTI. Not during the last year at Alcatraz Island.
The CHAIRMAN. Within a few years.
Mr. CAMINETTI. It was at another part of the bay. At Angel
Island they have spent a whole lot of money.
The CHAIRMAN. Will it not take a considerable sum of money to
fit out those buildings for your service 2
Mr. CAMINETTI. It will cost $45,000 to readapt them, and as I
stated to you over the phone one day we can take care of that under
the present appropriation. ... If we are to make the change it would
be advisable to make it while we have the time and money to devote
for the purpose; otherwise we will be confronted with a difficult
situation, Mr. Chairman, and I am trying to meet that as much for
the benefit of the committee as for our own benefit in the future.
There was quite a contest in San Francisco to have that station upon
the mainland. ff we do that we would have to buy a site costing
possibly $500,000, and then the extra expense of building on that
site would run the cost up $1,000,000 or more.
By taking advantage of this opportunity at a time when everybody
seems to be satisfied would save a great deal of money. I appeared
before the Chamber of Commerce of San Francisco, which at One
time felt the station ought to be on the mainland, and I satisfied
them that for an oriental station if we established one on the main-
land, we would have to guard every foot of the outline of the station
night and day, whereas by having it on the island we would save a
great deal in guarding expense. Hence from every standpoint it
is advisable for the Government to make this change. The buildings
are already constructed, and the change will never require any ex-
pense for erecting buildings with the possible exception of a hospital.
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SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1915.
NATURALIZATION SERVICE.
STATEMENT OF MR. RAYMOND F. CRIST, DEPUTY COMMIS-
SIONER OF NATURALIZATION.
The CHAIRMAN. For the Naturalization Service the appropriation
is $250,000 and your estimate is $307,950. What is paid out of this
appropriation, your field service , --
Mr. CRIST. The field service, rent, and telegraph service, telephone
service, and assistants to clerks of courts. -
The CHAIRMAN. How is it divided ?
Mr. CRIST. The assistants to the clerks of courts have about
$65,000 and the remainder goes for salaries, traveling expenses, rent,
and miscellaneous items.
The CHAIRMAN. What does your field force do?
Mr. CRIST. They examine the candidates for citizenship and their
witnesses, and then appear in the courts and represent the Govern-
ment at the hearings of the petitions for naturalization.
The CHAIRMAN. You are asking an increase of $57,950. Why is
that 7 -
Mr. CRIST. That is because since 1913 the rate at which petitions
for naturalization filed have increased from 7,000 to 8,900 a month,
and while during that time there has been an increase in the appropria-
tion made, the bulk of it has gone to pay assistants to clerks of courts,
so that the amount that has been paid to assistants to clerks of courts
in that time has increased from $35,000 to $60,000. I do not know
just what has been the increase in the personnel or clerical assistance
because those appointments are all made by clerks of courts, but the
increase in the personnel of the naturalization, field service has
been from 71 officers to 74 officers, and the estimates here contemplate
an increase, as will be shown by the figures, to 89. We propose
blacing these examiners as follows: Three in New York, one in
hiladelphia, two in Pittsburgh, five in Chicago, two in St. Louis,
one in St. Paul, and one in Denver. That does not provide any
increases for the Seattle or San Francisco offices. Their headquarters
will be in those cities, and of course they will travel to the outlying
districts from each one of those cities. -
The CHAIRMAN. You propose to employ some persons at a very
much higher compensation, do you not ? -
Mr. CRIST. There has been a mistake in that estimate. It said
$3,250 for one chief examiner, but that was taken up by the Secretary,
and in printing the Book of Estimates they did not get it right, so that
increase which was asked for does not prevail. The others, I think,
are as they exist.
The CHAIRMAN. You have one now at $3,000 %
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And you ask for four at $3,000%
Mr. CRIST. We have one at $3,000 at New York and four at $2,700
at Pittsburgh, Chicago, St. Paul, and St. Louis. -
The CHAIRMAN. It it proposed to increase them "
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir; that would admit of the increase because the
maximum so far paid is $3,000.
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The CHAIRMAN. What do these chief examiners do
Mr. CRIST. They supervise the work. They attend the hearings
themselves. They also do examination work. They also assist in
the preparation of briefs in the hearings of cases which are appealed
and in the preparation of cancellation cases.
The CHAIRMAN. How many applications did you say there were 3
Mr. CRIST. The petitions that were filed in the first six months of
the fiscal year 1913 averaged 7,000 a month. In the last six months of
that year they averaged about 7,500 a month. In the first six months
of the fiscal year 1914 there was a tremendous increase due to the
expiration of the seven-year limitation and approximately 45,000
were filed in the course of less than four months, so that those people
who held old law declarations would be able to file them before the
seven-year period expired. . The work dropped down again then
but not to the low-water level which had prevailed immediately
preceding which was the highest average that had been attained,
and they went from that time to about 8,000 a month. During the
first six months of this fiscal year there have been 52,500 petitions
filed which is about 8,900 a month and the last month has been the
heaviest month. Now, the reasons for those increases are at least
tWO
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). Did you say there were 7,000 a
month in 1913 Ž
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, in 1914, 45,000 was the entire number'.
Mr. CRIST. No, sir; that was only for six months. There were
95,000 in the entire year, 42,000 for the first six months and the
total was 95,000 for the year.
The CHAIRMAN. That would be 53,000 in the second six months?
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Now, for the first six months of this year the num-
ber is 52,000% . g
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir; up to the present time, with the month of
December not completely returned upon.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these allowances behind in any way? Is there
any difficulty in having action taken by an applicant now upon his
petition? - -
Mr. CRIST. There may be in some isolated cases, but as a general
proposition with the larger number of assistants that have been
allowed to clerks of courts the number of applicants applying is
immediately carried for.
RENT, CHICAGO, ILL.
The CHAIRMAN. In House Document 1428 you ask to be permitted
to expend not to exceed $5,300 for rent instead of $3,800. That is
due to the situation at Chicago, is it not ? -
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir; That is because there has been an opportunity
afforded in the county building in Chicago to obtain quarters there.
The present quarters in the Federal building consist of two rooms,
and I was there in September and saw the congestion that existed
there. The candidates would come in large numbers and they
would be obliged to stand out in the hall and stand there for an hour
or an hour and a half or two hours until those coming in in line had
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been reached. There was no room in the offices in which the exami-
ners were located for them to conne in and be provided with seats,
and I took the matter up with Judge Goodwin of the superior court
and we went over the matter thoroughly and he said he thought we
could get accommodations in the county court building if the appro-
priations would be made. The rental price of office rooms in that
immediate neighborhood is $2.50 a foot. I ascertained on inquiry
and this will give us about 3,000 square feet at about 50 cents a foot,
The CHAIRMAN. Is it a county building . . -
Mr. CRIST. Yes, sir. Seventy-five per cent of the naturalization
work is done in the county building, so we would maintain the two
rooms over the Federal building and attend to the candidates who
applied there and attend to the others in the county building. Many
of the States and cities are enforcing laws Qr enacting new laws
which necessitated this increase. They will not allow people to be
employed on city works or State works who are not citizens in a
great many places and that has impelled the candidates to come
forward in large numbers, and that in part accounts for the increase:
but in addition, there is the fact that each year is a part of the seven-
year limitation on a declaration of intention and the average number
of declarations during the first six years has been 165,000 a year, so
that the number of petitions for naturalization will undoubtedly
reach up to that number before the maximum has been reached.
- SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1915.
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE.
STATEMENT OF MIR, CORNELIUS FORD, PUBLIC PRINTER;
MR. R. O. BEENE, ACCOUNTANT: AND MR. J. H. BRINKER,
SUPERINTENDENT OF DOCUMENTS.
OFFICE OF PUBLIC PRINTER.
The CHAIRMAN. The first item is “Office of Public Printer,” and
the appropriation is $131,660, and your estimate is $130,460%
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir.
JPRIVATE SECRETARY AND CLERKS.
The CHAIRMAN. There are some changes desired. You insert
“Private secretary, $2,500 (now being paid from ‘Printing and
binding’)”? - -
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. -
Mr. GILLETT. Private secretary to whom ?
Mr. For D. To the Public Printer. I asked the same thing of the
committee last year. The committee did not grant the request.
We have changed the clerical force in this office in such a way that
we can save $1,200. We provide for the private secretary and still
reduce the appropriation. - -
The CHAIRMAN. $1,200%
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir.
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* CHAIRMAN. That is by dropping two clerks of class 4 to
class 3% -
Mr. For D. No; we eliminate two of class 4. There is another
thing: We have taken out of the item the $840 clerk, Mr. Strawn,
who, if you recall, last year was placed in the office by Executive
order and assigned to the board of inspection; I have now placed
him where practically all his work is done; that is, in the office of
the Deputy Public Printer. We put him on that roll.
The CHAIRMAN. How many do you drop 3 - º
Mr. FoED. Two clerks of class 4, $1,800 each, and we increase two
clerks in class 3, at $1,600 each. -
The CHAIRMAN. Two additional clerks?
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir—that is, not exactly additional, but increases
to present clerks.
The CHAIRMAN. Clerks of class 2, one more, clerks of class 1, one
less, there is one additional clerk at $1,000 and nine additional clerks
at $900 each.
Mr. For D. It is proposed to reclassify a number of clerks now
receiving salaries ranging from $1,800 down to $840 who are doing
practically the same grade of work. A promotion for nine clerks
now receiving $840 to $900 is submitted. This increase amounts to
but $540; that is, we are going to promote the $840 clerks to $900.
It is proposed to divide the work among these nine clerks that has
heretofore been performed by two $840 clerks that are eliminated.
These people are employed in the bookkeeping section and do a class
of work that is paid higher compensation throughout the departments
and even in private establishments. Most of them have been in the
service for a number of years and should not have been required to do
this class of work at a compensation less than the initial entry into
the service in other departments, $900. It is a matter of common
justice to the clerks to rearrange the work. Two clerks at $1,800
each are eliminated entirely, and out of the saving of those two clerks
we raise the $840 clerks to $900. That is about the whole sum and
substance of the clerk matter.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you not drop some of the $840 clerks? -
Mr. FORD. Two of them are eliminated. Instead of five at $900
each we make 14 at $900 each, and instead of 16 at $840 each we have
one at $840. Two clerks at $840 each are eliminated. -
The CHAIRMAN. Where are the others ?
Mr. For D. We raise the others up to $900, $1,000, $1,200, $1,400,
and $1,600 —a rearrangement of the force by giving $100 and $200
here and there. The decreases amount to $17,400 and the increases
amount to $16,200, which leaves $1,200 met reduction.
The CHAIRMAN. How many are dropped out altogether? -
Mr. Ford. It is proposed to drop four. We had two clerks in the
office of the superintendent of buildings and one has been eliminated.
The CHAIRMAN. How much was he receiving'
Mr. For D. $1,600. I did not see why he was there, and I eliminated
the position. One has been transferred to the Deputy Public Printer's
roll. -
"The CHAIRMAN. Five men have been dropped ? -
Mr. Ford. No, sir; four dropped and one transferred.
The CHAIRMAN. And one transferred -
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Mr. For D. One in the accounting division and One in the purchasing
division. Mr. Beene was an $1,800 clerk in the purchasing division.
I have not filled that position, and I am going to drop it out of the
purchasing division. The accountant has rearranged his force so as
to drop two of the $840 clerks and one $1,800 clerk, and then there
is º in the buildings division who is eliminated entirely. There
have been four dropped, and, if you count Mr. Strawn, five.
Mr. MoMDELL. A reduction of five .
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir; exactly; from 63 to 58. -
The CHAIRMAN. One $840 position is carried in the deputy's
office - *
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir. • *
The CHAIRMAN. You actually abolish four places
Mr. For D. Yes, sir. º
The CHAIRMAN. And you have transferred to this item the private
secretary 3, . ;
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. We had the same thing last year. Including
the secretary’s salary with the $1,200 it means a saving of $3,700.
OFFICE OF DEPUTY PUBLIC PRINTER.
The CHAIRMAN. In the office of the Deputy Public Printer the
appropriation is $9,340, and your estimate is $10,180. That is due
to the transfer of one clerk?
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why was that transfer made 7
Mr. Ford. Because we found that all his work had relations with
the deputy's office, and, as stated last year, we thought we ought to
put him where he belonged. -
WATCH FORCE.
y
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “Watch force,” and the appro-
priation is $49,080 and your estimate is $49,080%
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir; that is the same as last year and the year
before.
HOLIDAYS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is ‘‘Holidays,”
tion is $185,000 and your estimate is $180,000%
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir; we reduce that $5,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you spend in 1914%
Mr. BEENE. $191,487.33.
The CHAIRMAN. You had a couple of extra holidays?
Mr. For D. Yes, sir; in June.
The CHAIRMAN. You estimate, because of the short session, that
you will not have so many men? -
Mr. FORD. We are figuring on the number of men; we have not
the number of employees we had.
The CHAIRMAN. And that makes it possible to reduce it 3
Mr. For D. Yes, sir. -
and the appropria-
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LEAVES OF ABSENCE.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is “TJ2aves of absence,” and the
appropriation is $330,000 and your estimate is $320,000?
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. - -
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you spend in 1914%
Mr. BEENE. $332,408.99 in 1914. • .
Mr. Ford. It is probable that on the leave proposition we may run
a little bit short, and that will be brought about, if there is no extra
session, by a reduction in the force which will follow. If the force
is reduced, then the accrued leave has got to be paid out of current
appropriation to those who have earned it. Of course, next year
the appropriation will derive the benefit, be:ause the leave will have
been paid. It all depends on hyw long Congress is here. Our force
is controlled by the sessions of Congress.
The CBI AIRMAN. As to how much leave is earned 2
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir. They are enrning lenve every day they are
in the O'fice. When they cense to be employed they are not earning
any leave; that will be so mugh reduxtijn next year. The smaller
the number of employees we have working the less leave we have to
pay the following year, but when they stop we have to pay them the
accrued leave, whether it is 15 days or not.
NEW PRINTING BILL.
If they pass the new printing bill we will have a few more hun-
dred thousand dollars to slap onto the appropriation—four or five
hundred thousand dollars more.
The CHAIRMAN. That bill is to effect a great economy?
Mr. Ford. Those are economies which they talk about. Half of
the estimated $800,000 saving is in effect now.
The CHAIRMAN. This takes it back?
Mr. FORD. Sure.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is the other half
Mr. For D. I do not know how they figure it out. We can not figure
it out in the Printing Office. I have ask d the accountant and the
various heads of divisions to figure it out. If the bill becomes a law
the sup \rintendent of documents tells me that he will want $21,000
In OI’& }. the handling of Rºpresentatives' or Senators' accounts, etc.
We will have to k \ep all that down at the Government Printing Office,
and do a lot of the work that is now done in the folding rooms. I
suppose it will b2 saved in the folding rooms; I do not know. Then,
again, the Post Office D, partment, for instance, now has a great deal
of work done outside which will have to be done at our office.
Mr. Mond ELL. What class of work do they have done outside that
amounts to so much 3
Mr. Ford. We do the money orders and the postal cards. I tried
to break in on the tº g work, but somehow I could not. I had a
machine with the tº g arrangement, but I could not gºt the work.
They seemed to think that my stock was not good enough.
Mr. MONDELL. Is it the envelopes º
Mr. Ford. No, sir; I refused that. You would have to furnish me
with about five or six city blocks of buildings for that work alone.
I refused to entertain that.
The CHAIRMAN. You could not handle it with your present plant':
Mr. For D. No, sir. We are asking Congress now to give us more
room. We will have to have more room—there is no question about
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that—or else rent additional space, if the printing bill goes through.
If that bill passes they will have to give me some building outside in
which to do some of the work. I will not have enough room. I went
into that after I was in the office a few months. I took up the matter
with the Post Office Department and went over and saw the Post-
master General and had a list prepared of the character of work that
he has done on the outside, and if I remember rightly, it amounted
to $1,200,000. Then I tried to break in on the tags, but I could not.
Mr. MoMDELL. The work that is done outside is mostly where the
work is manufacturing work and the printing is only incidental'
Mr. For D. No, sir; they have blanks and some books. I do
$730,000 worth of work for the Post Offce Depal trnent, if I remem-
ber the figure, and over a million dollars of the work is done on the
outside. It is our opinion that all of that work could be done in the
Printing Office; and if the printing bill passes it will come to us.
FURNISHING LIGHT AND HEAT TO CITY POST OFFICE, WASHINGTON, D. C.
[See p. 926.]
The CHAIRMAN. I have a letter from the Postmaster General under
date of December 15, 1914, inclosing a letter addressed to him by the
Public Printer under date of December 12, 1914, containing figules
showing that the electric current and steam power furnished to the
Washington City post office in the new post-Offce building from July
to November cost the Public Printer $4,994.89, and estimating that
the cost of the service for the entire year will be between $20,000 and
$25,000. These letters will be inserted in the record.
(The letters referred to by the chairman follow:)
OFFICE of THE PostMASTER GENERAL,
- Washington, D. C., December 15, 1914.
FIon. JoHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives.
MY DEAR MR. FITZGERALD: Your attention is invited to the accompanying copy
of a letter from the Public Printer, dated December 12, 1914, requesting reimburse-
ment for expenditures made by him on account of power and light furnished to the
new Washington City Post Office Building. -
It is my understanding that your committee was to arrange for the inclusion in the
appropriations for the Government Frinting Offce of an amount to be used for this
purpose, and I shall be pleased if you will give the matter consideration at this time.
It would seem that a direct appropriation to the ſublic Trinter should be made instead -
of to this department, thereby avoiding reimbursement in a roundabout way.
Sincerely, yours,
A. S. BURLEson, Postmaster General.
OFFICE of THE PUBLIC PRINTER,
Washington, December 12, 1914.
MY DEAR GENERAL: I am placing before you the matter of payment for steam and
electricity furnished the new city post office by the Public Plinter.
An appropriation of $120,000 was granted by Congress for the enlargement of the
power plant at the Government Printing Office for the purpose of heating and fur-
nishing power and light to the new city post office.
No provision was made as to where the money was to come from to meet this expense.
Since July of the present year, the Public Printer has been furnishing electric
current and steam. It is estimated that the total yearly cost for this service will be
between $20,000 and $25,000.
8%) SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The Public Printer has no funds available for this expense and as same is one that
should be borne by the Post Office Department, I am inclosing statement as to the
actual cost of electric current and steam furnished from July to November, inclusive,
with a request that the Public Printer be reimbursed to this amount and such action
taken that will make it possible for this office to render monthly bills covering exact
COSſ.
July, electric current. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $14.96
August, electric current-------------------------------------------------- 31.88
September, electric current... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 634. 00
Steam------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 941. 42
October, electric current--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 464. 98
team------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 269. 50
November, electric current..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 814. 29
Steam------------------ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . l, 823. 86
Total.----------------------------------------------------------- 4,994. 89
Sincerely, yours,
CoRNELIUS For D,
& Public Printer.
Hon. ALBERT S. BURLESON, •.
- Postmaster General, Washington, D. C.
The CHAIRMAN. You asked the Postmaster General to pay you for
the electric current and steam power furnished to the new city post
office 3
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. • .
The CHAIRMAN. The Postmaster General suggests that we make a
direct appropriation to you for that work. t
Mr. FORD. We do not want it.
The CHAIRMAN. Why not ?
Mr. For D. Because it is not good business, in the first place. We
want them to secure the appropriation and we will render a bill to
them of the actual cost.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not want the Public Printer to be charged
with the cost of furnishing light and power for the city post office in
Washington; is that your position ? - .
Mr. For D. There was no provision made at all when they began
heating and lighting the post office, and I was under the impression
that the procedure would be followed as in other cities; but Mr.
Chance, as I understand it, is desirous of having the appropriation
made to the Public Printer, as the correspondence will show, but we
do not want that. We will render a monthly bill to the Post Office
Department—that should be charged against the Post Office Depart-
ment. We do not want to go into the lighting and heating business.
If I had been Public Printer at the time the proposition was brought
up I would have said no, not to furnish light and heat, Let us do
printing, and then we will know what we are doing. The lighting
and heating proposition has brought a great deal of inconvenience.
We are not assuming anybody else's troubles if we can get away
from them. - -
PUBLIC PRINTING AND BINDING.
The CHAIRMAN. “For public printing, public binding, and paper
for public printing and binding,” etc., your appropriation for 1915 is
$4,463,820, and your estimate for 1916 is $4,411,165.16%
Mr. Ford. Yes, sir; about $50,000 less is asked for this year than
for the two previous years.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 88.1
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you spent $5,749,123.49
Mr. For D. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Of that sum $1,085,735.78 represented repay-
ments?
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. You spent, excluding the repay work,
$4,663,397.71; that is the difference between the two figures?
Mr. For D. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Does the estimate of $4,411,165.16 for 1916 include
your estimated receipts for repay work?
Mr. For D. No, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. That amount is to be compared with $4,663,397.71%
Mr. For D. Exactly. . -
The CHAIRMAN. Then your estimate is $252,000 less for 1916 than
you actually expended in 1914% -
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. The expenditures last year embodied the pur-
chase of postal card paper, which is eliminated this year. \
The CHAIRMAN. Was that a direct appropriation to you ?
Mr. FORD. No, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. That was repay ?
Mr. Ford. Yes, sir. gº
Mr. BEENE. We carried over stock. We are asking for that much
less than we expended in 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. Please put in the record a statement showing the
expenditure of this money by classes.
Mr. For D. Yes, sir; we will do that.
(The statement referred to follows:)
Printing anº binding.
Salaries and wages. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $3,554, 633. 06
Material and Supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 482, 354. 39
Paper------------------------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1,476,806. 30
Lithographing and engraving--------------------------------------- 195, 142.42
Machinery-------------------------------------------------------- 23, 895.00
Equipment, including furniture, typewriters, adding machines, etc. . 12, 754.36
Freight and express----------------------------------------------. 274. I9
Telephone and telegraph (including rental of telephones). . . . . . . . . . . . 2,510. 02
Traveling expenses----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 763. 75
5, 749, 133.49
MACEOINERY.
Mr. Ford. We expended $23,000 for machinery last year.
The CHAIRMAN. Out of the authorized $100,000 %
Mr. For D. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Are those expenditures supervised by the Joint
Committee on Printing 3 -
Mr. FORD. All over $1,000. For every piece of machinery that
has gone into the office I have appeared before the committee to
explain what it was, and at one time, Congress not being in session—
it was during the recess—the Secretary of the Interior had a couple
of engineers and people down to my office, and they went over the
items I asked for. It involved an expenditure of $1,400, I think.
Everything I buy the Joint Committee on Printing approves.
The CHAIRMAN. These expenditures are not wholly in your dis-
cretion ?
72785–15—56
882 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. FORD. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. But are made only after approval either by the
Joint Committee on Printing when Congress is in session or by the
Secretary of the Interior when Congress is not in session? -
Mr. For D. No matter how small the items are I send them up. It
is the safest way. There is no argument about it. I told the com-
mittee that it was all the same to me. *
Mr. MoRDELL. How much did you spend for machinery?
Mr. FORD. $23,000. -
Mr. MONDELL. You are asking for $100,000. What additional
machinery do you contemplate putting in } -
Mr. Ford. I will answer that this way, Mr. Mondell. It is my
belief and the belief of the people in the office that $400,000 expended
in the Printing Office would be a benefit. We..have machinery there
over 30 years old. -
Mr. MoRDELL. What particular class of machinery were you
intending to purchase ? -
Mr. For D. Presses. That is the main thing needed there. Last
year we put in two new Mergenthalers, one in the Library branch
and one in the job department. . . We did not have them there before.
Mr. Mond ELL. What do you do with the old machinery when you
substitute new Ž -
Mr. FORD. There is a condemnation commission which goes over
it, and we advertise; or, if it is in the same line, we bargain and get
so much off the bill in exchange for new machinery. ... •
Mr. MondBLL. Ordinarily, does it bring very much 3
Mr. FORD. No; it is junk. All printing material, once used, is
junk, no matter how new it is.
Mr. MoRDELL. There is really no demand for the old stuff?
Mr. For D. No. We made an effort to sell some presses, but the
prices were so ridiculously low that I would not let them go. A good
many small offices, country offices, could use those things. . -
Mr. MondELL. I was wondering whether there would be enough
demand 7 s - •
Mr. For D. The presses are small. I suppose I have in the office
a couple of thousand of the finest type cases which, if you should go
into a place to buy them, would cost $1 up, and I could not get any-
thing for them except what I could get for kindling wood, and I
refused to let them go. - *
Mr. MONDELL. I suppose the men who would naturally use that
sort of thing are a good way from here? " .
Mr. FoED. That is the trouble. The advent of the typesetting
machine has practically done away with them except in offices in
distant parts of the country. - -
Mr. MondBLL. As a matter of fact, there is a good deal of that kind
of stuff for sale everywhere? -
Mr. For D. Yes, sir, We have a lot of it and I should like to get the
room, but I do not think I would be justified in letting it go for
kindling wood. I have a board which keeps right up to it, and every
month or two we advertise and get bids. You would be surprised
at them. I suppose they figure out that we have to get rid of them
and any old figure will go, but in that case I would not. The expendi-
ture of $23,000 for machinery comes out of the $100,000. The reason
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 883
more money was not spent was because Congress being in session I
had to use that money to run the office.
Mr. MONDELL. And you could not spare the machinery long enough
to make the change?
Mr. FORD. I am afraid that some day we will have a break. I am
going to make an effort this year to see if I can not get enough money
to put in, particularly, a Congressional Record press. We have a press
over there, bought second-hand, when it went in, for thirty-odd
thousand dollars. -
Mr. MONDELL. You are not printing the Record on it 2
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. If there was a smash up we would have to
take every other press that we could make available for the run of the
Record. We have to get the Record out. - ;
Mr. MONDELL. I suppose a machine of that kind will cost a great
deal of money?
Mr. FORD. A machine of that kind costs anywhere from $40,000
to $60,000. .
Mr. MONDELL. That would be a regular book machine?
Mr. FoED. A press built specially for the Record, where we could
run, perhaps, 128 pages. I want to get a press that will have an
Output of from 6,000 to 10,000 an hour, because you see the Record
goes to press about 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, and there has to be
Some hustling done to get that out.
Mr. MONDELL. How early do you ordinarily begin to deliver the
Record; what time do you begin to get it out 7 -
Mr. FORD. At 6 o'clock. As soon as the force comes in it is ready
for them. I was thinking of getting a machine for the mailing of the
Record, of the same kind that we use for the consular reports, if I
can get a machine that can be adjusted. It has to be specially built
So as to shift from one to the other.
DEPARTMENTAL AI, LOTMENTS.
The CHAIRMAN. For the Treasury Department, the appropriation
is $380,000 and the estimate is $400,000. Do you know anything
about that %
Mr. FORD. Those estimates, of course, are submitted by the
different departments. This is the statement for the first six months.
Mr. BEENE. The second one is where the billings exceeded one-half
and the orders have exceeded one-half.
The CHAIRMAN. Have they all exceeded? .
Mr. BEENE. The second one is the amount in excess of the com-
pleted business.
Mr. FORD. The Public Printer notifies the department of the
conditions of their accounts and when they find they have orders in
going over their allotment sometimes they countermand the Orders
and stop work on them. Each month the Public Printer notifies the
department exactly the standing of the accounts. *
Mr. BEENE. In that form, the amount billed, the amount requisi-
tioned, and the amount available. -
884
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement of allotment appropriations made for Congress, the evecutive and judicial
departments, and the independent Government establishments, of transfers and deposits
to the credit thereof, and of total charges for work executed therewºnder for the fiscal year
ended June 30, 1914.

Congress, departments, etc. º Charges Vºlºd
Congress----------------------------------------------------- $1,750,000.00 ---------------|-------------
Deficiency----------------------------------------------- 175,000.00 || $2,055,609. 10 || 1 $130,609. 10
State Department------------------------------------------- 35,000.00 34,357.21 737. 12
Transfers------------------------------------------------ 94.83 ---------------|-------------
Treasury Deportment. -------------------------------------- 340,000.00 363,980. 57 4,444. 15
Deficiency----------------------------------------------- 20,000.00 ---------------|-------------
Transfers.-------------------------4--------------------- 8,424.72 |---------------|-------------
War Department-------------------------------------------- 190,000.00 248,264. 50 45,211.69
Deficiency---------------------------------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00 ---------------|------------.
Transfers------------------------------------------------ 53,476. 19 |---------------|-------------
Navy Department.------------------------------------------ 153,000.00 152,249.09 750.91
Interior Department----------------------------------------. 295,000.00 302,998.95 1.05
Deficiency----------------------------------------------- 8,000.00 ---------------|-------------
Patent Office------------------------------------------------ 440,000.00 439,996.61 3. 39
Smithsonian Institution.------------------------------------- 76,200.00 67,848.75 8,351.25
Geological Survey------------------------------------------- 175,000.00 152,052.30 22,947.70
Department of Justice--------------------------------------- 35,000.00 33,766.49 1,233.51
Post Office Department..... -------------------------------- 290,000.00 285,318. 11 4,681.89
Agriculture-------------------------------------------------- 490,000.00 486,784. 58 3,215.42
Department of Commerce----------------------------------- 441,000.00 410,700. 77 30,299.23
Labor------------------------------------------------------- 84,000.00 106,746.64 7,253.36
Deficiency----------------------------------------------- 30,000.00 ---------------|------------.
Supreme Court of the United States- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 15,000.00 12,488.00 2,512.00
Supreme Court of the District of Columbia... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 1,440.05 59.95
Court of Claims---------------------------------------------- 25,000.00 24,952.82 47. 18
Library of CongreSS.----------------------------------------- 200,000.00 200,407. 39 2.97
Transfers------------------------------------------------ 410.36 ---------------|-------------
Executive Office.-------------------------------------------- 3,000.00 2,976.63 23. 37
Interstate Commerce Commission. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 100,000.00 92,847. 22 34,572.63
Deficinecy----------------------------------------------- 25,000.00 ---------------|-------------
Transfer. . . . . . . . . ---------------------------------------- 2,419.85 ---------------|-------------
International Union of American Republics.......... . . . . . . . 20,000.00 19,999. 16 .84
United States Court of Customs Appeals..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500.00 870. 68 629. 32
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------------- 5,533,025.45 5,496,655.62 166,978.93
1 130,609. 10
36,369.83
l Deficit.
Departments which have exceeded one-half of their allotment of appropriation for printing
and binding for the fiscal year 1915, including estimated work on Dec. 31, 1914.
} [Memorandum for Public Printer, Jan. 6, 1915.]
Amount of Amount of
Department. €XCeSS. Department. eXCeSS.
War. --------------------------------- 1 $66,737.95 || National Museum. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $12,802.63
Navy--------------------------------- 28, 219. 14 || American Ethnology. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , 524.0
Treasury------------------------------ * 54,318. 13 || Smithsonian Institution... . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,433.75
Post Office. --------------------------. 96,644. 37 abor--------------------------------- 19,235.27
Interior------------------------------- 41,852.99 || Hydrographic Office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,013. 24
Patent Office-------------------------- 103,839.77 || Library of Congress. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,901.65
Supreme Court of the District of Co- Court of Claims. ---------------------. 2,444. 27
lumbia.----------------------------- 138. 35 || Commerce. --------------------------- 11,923. 24
International Exchange. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 52.59 || Interstate Commerce Commission...... 524, 9
Agriculture. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41,766.77 || Geological Survey printing.... . . . . . . . . 51,592.86
Weather Bureau. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,279.64 *º-
Justice-------------------------------- 6,684. 74 558,930.42
1 Includes $7,111.77 for rivers and harbors.
2 Includes Federal reserve,” etc., not credited.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 885
JDepartments which have exceeded one-half of their allotment of appropriation for printing
and binding for the fiscal year 1915 per actual billings on Dec. 31, 1914.
[Memorandum for Public Printer, Jan. 6, 1915.]
Department. - Aºoſ
Supreme Court of the District of Columbia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . s $98.08
International Exchange--------------------------------------------------------------------- 4.90
Patent Office-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20,221.92
Total ----------------------------------------------------- ~~~~ 20,324.90
BEENE.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you furnish us a statement showing the bal-
ance in the various allotments last year of the different departments
and the expenditures for the first half of 1915?
Mr. Ford. Yes, sir. We can show you this year where we have
notified the various departments that for the first six months they are
in excess. & --
The CHAIRMAN. Will you fix up that statement and give it to us
Monday morning 7 -
Mr. For D. Yes, sir.
oRFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT OF DOCUMENTs.
INCREASES IN SALARIES.
The CHAIRMAN. For the office of the superintendent of documents
the appropriation is $178,395 and your estimate is $180,765. What
changes are there in your estimates? - *
Mr. BRINKER. The changes there, Mr. Fitzgerald, are asked to in-
crease salaries. - -* > *
The CHAIRMAN. Wholly for increases of salaries and no additional
employees? -
Mr. BRINKER. Yes, sir. - , tº
The CHAIRMAN. Can you state the reasons for the particular
increases? - . * * . .
Mr. BRINKER. The increase is asked on account of the work being
done and because I think it will bring about better efficiency of the
clerks. We have had a good deal of trouble in obtaining clerks for
the office on account of the low salaries we pay. You will notice that
the increases I have asked for are for the lower grade clerks now get-
ting $720. º #
Mr. FoED. I might say we were a couple of months endeavoring to
. people to take jobs down there on that salary. They turned them
OWIl. -
Mr. BRINKER. It is almost impossible to get people efficient for the
work at an initial salary of $720. ---
The CHAIRMAN. What do these $720 men do . -
Mr. BRINKER. They are clerks of the lower grade, that do type-
Writing of cards and filing, and I ask to increase them to $840.
The CHAIRMAN. The next one you ask to increase from class 2 to
class 3. What does that person do?
Mr. BRINKER. That is an increase to $1,600 from $1,40
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The CHAIRMAN. What is the reason for that ?
Mr. BRINKER. Because it is a high grade of work.
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of work is it .
Mr. BRINKER. It is supervisory work, being the head of a section
where it requires executive ability and general knowledge of Govern-
ment publications. -
The CHAIRMAN. Are these class three clerks in charge of other em-
ployees' - *
Mr. BRINKER. Some of them are.
The CHAIRMAN. I am speaking of this particular one.
Mr. BRINKER. This particular one is acting in charge of other em-
ployees. º
The CHAIRMAN. Then you ask to increase four from $840 to $900.
What do they do? -
Mr. BRINKER. They are clerks that do revising and a class of
bookkeeping and accounting. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to promote 15 clerks from $720 to $840.
Mr. BRINKER. Yes; they are the ones I referred to before, that do
typewriting of cards and filing. + •
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to increase one clerk from $1,000 to
$1,100%
Mr. BRINKER. That is for a cataloguer; other cataloguers doing
a similar class of work are getting $1,100 and $1,200, and this clerk
has been there a long time and I think is entitled to as much as the
other clerks are getting. -
The CHAIRMAN. You ask to increase one helper from $870 to $900.
Mr. BRINKER. That helper is the head lady of the wrapping work
and she has been getting $870, and I think her work ought to be worth
$900. 6.
DOCUMENTS EIANDLED AND REVENUE FROM SALES.
The CHAIRMAN. How many documents do you handle'.
Mr. BRINKER. We handled last year about 42,000,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. Have you had any complaints about the service?:
Mr. BRINKER. Very little; scarcely any. I have been able to satisfy
all complaints that have been made to the office. -
The CHAIRMAN. How quickly can you deliver a document after the
order comes to you?
Mr. BRINKER. You mean delivery to the mail?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. BRINKER. Orders taking their regular course in the office require
from 24 to 48 hours. The majority usually go out in 24 hours, but
Some of the more difficult ones take 48 hours.
The CHAIRMAN. How many documents have you sold 3 You have
charge of the sale of documents' -
Mr. BRINKER. Yes. The number of copies sold, fiscal year 1914,
was 1,378,207, and the receipts $129,942.66.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the amount the year before ?
Mr. BRINKER. I can not give you that now.
The CHAIRMAN. Give us a statement of that for several years.
Mr. FORD. As to the number and amount 7 -
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
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887
Mail received.
Cash let- | Letters of
Year ters. inquiry.
1912-13-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 103,256 70,826
1913-14-------------------------------------------------------------------------. 141,932 87,424
1914-15 (6 months)-------------------------------------------------------------- 71,063 45,833
Cash sales.
Year dº |Books. Amount.
1912–13-------------- ~~~~ 1,307,956 $109,114.38
1913-14-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1,378,207 | 129,942.66
1914-15 (6 months) -------------------------------------------------------------. 1,288,420 | 67,715.82
Books received and distributed.
y * Distrib-
Year. Received. . uted.
1912-13------------------------------------------------------------------------ ..] 39,261,107 || 29,488,581
1913-14----------------------------- dº e = * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = • e < * = * * * * * * * * = e ºs e sº 44,103,738 42,410,847
1914-15 (6 months)-------------------------------------------------------------- 22,597,458 20,321,461

Statement of the total number of documents sold by the superintendent of documents and
the amounts received each fiscal year therefor during two five-year periods, 1905 to 1909,
inclusive, and 1910 to 1914, inclusive. -

Number of
Number of
& Amount tº * | Amount
Fiscal year. doºnts received. Fiscal year. doºnts received.
1905---------------------- 69, 517 || $17,151. 72 || 1910. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 529,591 $79,232.53
1906---------------------- 31, 193 6,828.52 || 1911 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 717,094 | 105,854. 78
1907---------------------- 116,009 || 31,517.83 || 1912. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,039,214 || 109,581. 21
1908---------------------- 211,897 || 50, 120. 11 || 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,307,956 | 109,114.38
1909---------------------- 377,025 70,919. 17 || 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,378,207 | 129,942.66
805,641 176,537.35 4,972,062 533,725.56.
Why does it take 48 hours to get a document out after you get the
order for it 3
Mr. Ford. When an order comes in for a document, sometimes it
can be attended to immediately, and if so it is immediately sent out.
If it is an order for a reprint and we have got to print it, it can not be
done at once.
through the office of the superintendent of documents. -
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose I should send an order for a document.
that you have on hand, how long would it take to get it out 7
Of course, it depends on how long it takes to get it
Mr. BRINKER. When your order comes in, it will be opened, and the
letter will be stamped with the date of its receipt.
and entered on the daily cash sales sheet, wit
letter. Your letter then goes to the clerks who fill orders.
there takes it and goes to the file in which the cards representing the
stock on hand are kept.
and sends it down stairs, four or five floors, to get the document you
want. Then it goes into the office of t
it wrapped and mailed out.
It is then taken
the number of the
A clerk
He takes out a card, matches up your Order,
he shipper, and the shipper has
888 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The CHAIRMAN. How long does that takeº
Mr. BRINKER. You could get it out in 24 hours.
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose f should mail an order to-night for a
document and you should get it in the morning's mail; when would
that document go out 7 * *
Mr. BRINKER. It ought to go out that evening or the next morning.
if it is an ordinary document. We have different kinds of documents.
The CHAIRMAN. I mean a document in stock.
Mr. BRINKER. Suppose you sent an order there for the Public
Printer's report, that would go out that evening or in the next morn-
ing's mail; but if you sent an order for a report made by some man
20, 40, or 50 years ago, just giving a partial title for it, that would
go to our research section, and it would take them six or eight hour
or a day to look it up. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose I ordered some Farmers' Bulletins, and
the order reached you in the morning, how long would it take to get
them out .
Mr. BRINKER. In one day. They would be shipped out that eve-
ning or the next morning.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not see why it should take until the next
morning. * . . '
Mr. BRINKER. If your letter is mailed in the afternoon it would
reach us the next morning, and the document would have to be
wrapped up and mailed. Then, another thing, it is owing to how
many letters we get. Sometimes we get from 1,000 to 2,000 letters
a day, and as all of those letters are orders, with the force we have
we could not work all of those orders out in a day. Sometimes they
could not be gotten out in less than two days.
The CHAIRMAN. Has there been any complaint that under this
system you are slow in getting out documents, as compared with
what it was under the other system 7
Mr. BRINKER. No, sir. - - -
Mr. FORD. There has been no complaint, so far as I know, from
any department along the line that when they did it they did it better.
b ºve the work is expedited because of having it in the Printing
TILCG. -
Mr. BRINKER. There are two kinds of orders handled in my office.
We have the regular orders coming in from individuals and Congress-
men, which are handled in one way, and then we have orders from
the departments. The remark you just made calls my attention to
the fact that possibly you had reference to this consigned business.
that we handle for the departments and bureaus. That business is
handled in a different way. A cash order is handled in one way and
an order for documents that are sent out free is handled in another
way. . . .
The CHAIRMAN. I was asking you about the free documents.
Mr. BRINKER. The orders for Farmers Bulletins, in the free dis-
tribution, come from Mr. Arnold, the gentleman in charge of that
bureau of the Agricultural Department, and they generally are
received about 11 o'clock. The orders are immediately opened up
and work is commenced on them. Then it is owing to how many
orders come in—some of these orders run into the thousands. The
question you asked a moment ago misled me, and I thought you had
reference to the general business of the office, but now I understand
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§ 3 ; ;
that you want information about this consignment stuff that we are
handling for the departments. -
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. - .
Mr. BRINKER. That is entirely different, and it takes longer, because
they come in such quantities that they can not be gotten out as
promptly as we can get out the other orders. Sometimes those
orders are four or five days getting out, but they are gotten out as
rapidly as possible, and work is commenced on them as soon as they
come in from the department. + -
The CHAIRMAN. If an order of that kind comes in accompanied by
a statement that it is urgent, what is done? - -
Mr. BRINKER. We make such an order special.
7 : ; ; IFURNITURE AND ITIXTURES.
The CHAIRMAN. For furniture and fixtures the current appro-
priation is $153,000 and your estimate is $149,000. Have you a
detailed statement of expenditures under this item 7
Mr. BEENE. No, sir. . -
The CHAIRMAN. Then put such a statement in the record.
(The statement referred to, for furniture and fixtures, includes
all the items of general expense, as follows:)
Disbursements on account of general expense, office of Superintendent of Documents,
July 1, 1913–June 30, 1914.
Catalogues and indexes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * $15,600. 61.
Binding reserve remainders. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 909. 14
Blanks, price lists, and other printing for office use. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,785.06.
Paper and envelopes for office use.......... . . . . . . . . . . . .... • * * * * * * , - - - - - - - - - 1,942. 64
Books for depository libraries. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 88, 288.68.
Wrapping paper for Record and Gazette....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4, 746.05
Light, heat, and power. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,483.63
Preserving Sanitary conditions. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,354. 25.
Repairs to building, elevators, and machinery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2, 156.13
Laundering----------------------------------------------------------- 97.62
Telephones.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 174.00.
Drayage------------------------------------------------------------- l, 695. 17
Strawboard----------------------------------------------------------- 208. 05:
Impression pads, and rollers... . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 168.00
Ink----------------------------------------------------------------- 125.00
Głue. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 33.92
Rubber tubing------------------------------------------------------- 16. 40
Stencils and trays. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 327. 50
Twine... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... e º ºs e e s = e º sº º is sº e º sº e º 'º ... • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 48.30
Paste... . . . . . . . .---------------------------------------------------- 12.46
Lightning letter opener...---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 75. 00
Oscillating fan.......... . . . . . . . .: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13. 59
1 table-----------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22.00.
Nonlisting adding machine. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250.00
3 numbering machines...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - 24. 00
Mailing tubes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 90. 47
Cogwheels, chains, blades. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25. 00
Metal card fingers........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4. 50
lºſiº desk * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 19. 20
Qhairs---------------------------------------------------------------. 33. 55
Sanitary base.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - 35. 20
Hammond typewriter (secondhand). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - 31. 75
Remington typewriter-----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67. 50
Feedograph for Smith typewriter............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40.00
Parts for letter opener. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5.00.

Wrapper cutter for Belknap addressing machine............. . . . . . . . . . . . . 182.80
890 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Rubber strips.-------------------------------------------------------- $10.00
Cabinet. . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 64. 00
Books of reference- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 24. 57
Stationery----------------------------------------------------------- 570. I5
Repairs to typewriters--------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10.35
Miscellaneous.---------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 43.75.
134,814.99
Credit motor returned . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 17. 50
134,797.49
Appropriation, general expense. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ 140,000.00
Expended.---------------------------------------------------------- 134, 797. 49.
Balance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .--~~~~ 5,202.51
The unexpended blance of $5,202.51 is made up of the following items: -
Account No. 4, catalogues and indexed----------------------------. 399. 39
Accounts Nos. 5 and 7, binding reserve remainders and books for de-
pository libraries. . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4, 802. 18
Accounts Nos. 6 and 8 to 14, blanks and printing for office use, stores, -
wrapping paper, equipment, light, heat and power, preserving sani-
tary conditions, repairs to building, elevators and machinery, mis-
Cellaneous...... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - .94
5,202.51.
Disbursements on account of distribution of public documents, July 1, 1913, to June 30,
. - 1914. . - . 4
Wrapping paper------------------- ----- … . . . . $3,766.69
Envelopes. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ‘. . . . 8,702. 38.
Strawboard---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 295. 37
Office printing-------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 177:73
Twine--------------------------------------------------------------- 247. 63.
Paste-------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ** = s. s = e s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * 96.98%
Stationery---------------------------------- e ºs s ºr e º 'º e º as a sº * * * * * * * <- - - - - - 290. 13.
Stencils and trays. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - --- 177. 50.
Ink. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 50.00.
Sealing machine....... . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 150.00.
Glue cooker..... . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 68.94.
Glue------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 140. 90
Mail-sack holders----------------------------------------------------- 21.45
Oak cabinet.--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * ------------------- - - - - - - - - - 10. 00.
Oak table-----------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . 15.00
Springs for envelope feed. . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4.50.
Chairs---------------------------------------------------------------- 7, 76.
Repairs---------------------------------------------------------- - - - - 750. 09
Brushes------------------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26.07.
14,999. 12
Appropriation distribution of documents. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000.00.
Expended--------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - ... 14, 999. 12
Balance, July 1… .. 88
The CHAIRMAN. Is it out of this appropriation that you pay for
light and power %
priation. -
The CHAIRMAN. Out of this lump sum ?
Mr. Ford. It is paid out of superintendent of documents appro-
* Mr. BRINKER. We pay for it out of this appropriation. As you'
will observe, we are asking for less appropriation under this item.
than we had last year.
SUNDRY UIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 891.
The CHAIRMAN. How is that mail-carrying system working?
Mr. For D. It is not completed yet, but I expect that it will be
completed within a few weeks. We have the tunnel built, and I
think the contract for the belt conveyor calls for completion in 60
days—latter part of February. -
Mr. MonTELL. Will you get it out of this appropriation?
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir; we got it out of the appropriation of $30,000
rovided last year. There are a few little side issues, amounting to
probably $1,500, but it will come within this appropriation.
MONDAY, JANUARY 25, 1915.
MOTOR VIEHICLES.
The CILAIRMAN. İ ſave you any passenger-carrying vehicles'
Mr. Forn. Yes, sir; two.
The CHAIRMAN. What are they?
Mr. For D. Electric cars.
The CHAIRMAN. Section. 5 of the legislative act requires that spe-
cific estimates be made for their maintenance, and the estimates sub-
mitted do not include any such provision. Have you made such an
estimate
Mr. Ford. Yes, sir; $1,500. z
The CHAIRMAN. Is that for maintenance
Mr. FORD. That is for maintenance and operation.
The CHAIRMAN. What are these cars used for "
Mr. FORD. They are used for carrying the paymaster and cashier
to the bank, to the Treasury Departnent, and to the branch offices to
pay off. The cashier carries with him amounts varying from $80,000
to $100,000.
The CHAIRMAN. When
Mr. FORD. Several times a month. He has to pay oſſ at the branch
offices every other week. He has to deposit money received by the
Public Printer in the bank. e
Mr. GILLETT. What bank do you deposit in .
Mr. For D. The Federal National Bank. The money he receives
from the Treasury to pay off he has to carry through the streets, and
he uses either one car or the other. They are known as car No. 1
and car No. 2, and No. 1 car is known as the Public Printer's car, and
is used by the Public Printer, and the other is used by the various
employees, who have business with the departments necessitating
quick work; but if one car is in use, they use the other one. On
numerous occasions we have to take employees home who are sick
and either car is used for that purpose. The Public Printer, having.
two branch offices, visits these branch offices sometimes twice a week.
The car carries the Public Printer there, and takes the Public Printer
to the various departments, to the White House, and to the Capitol.
The car is used entirely and solely for official business. If I want to
ride in a car for private use I have a six-cylinder Studebaker at my
beck and call any time I want it, so I do not have to use an electric
that goes about 10 miles an hour. f
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean you own an automobile for your pri-
vate use 7 *.
892 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. FORD. No, sir; but it is at my disposal. It belongs to a friend
of mine. . -
Mr. MondELL. Where do you keep the cars ?
Mr. For D. At the garage in the Printing Office. i
Mr. MondELL. They are cared for and charged there ? - -
Mr. For D. Yes, sir. I might state we also care for two cars for the
Interior Department, and we are now going to take care of or charge
a car for the Post Office Department, charging them the actual cost,
which will be assessed against the Post Office Department. -
The CHAIRMAN. What kind of cars are they
Mr. FORD. Electric trucks. We have no gas machines at all.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you take care of your own trucks also }
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir. -
Mr. GILLETT. What kind of passenger cars are these ?
Mr. For D. They are electric cars. I do not know exactly the type.
One looks like a coupe. I guess they are both that style.
Mr. GILLETT. How many passengers do they carry 7
Mr. For D. Four and five.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you have a chauffeur'. -
Mr. For D. A chauffeur is used for car No. 2. The chauffeurs used
on the Public Printer's car are men in the garage. For instance, at
day we have a man who goes on at 8 o’clock and quits at 4.30 and
another man at night who goes on at 4.30 and quits at 11.30. Those
men are practically in charge of the garage and understand the cars,
so that in case a fire or anything should occur we would have some-
body there able to operate them to take them out of the garage.
Those men would be there whether we had these two passenger cars
or not. We have 14 chauffeurs, used in operating the eight trucks.
We have eight trucks—three 5,000-pound trucks, one 8,000-pound
truck, two 2,000-pound trucks, and two 1,000-pound trucks.
Mr. GILLETT. Fourteen chauffeurs?
Mr. For D. Yes, sir; they are classed as 'skilled laborers, used as
chauffeurs, and also assist in loading and unloading trucks.
Mr. GILLETT. What are they paid 7
Mr. For D. Thirty cents an hour.
Mr. GILLETT. They are paid by the hour?
Mr. Ford. Yes, sir. .
Mr. GILLETT. How many hours a day 7
Mr. For D. Eight hours a day. -
Mr. GILLETT. You did not say about the chauffeur for your pas—
senger car? e
Mr. Ford. We have no distinctive chauffeurs for the passenger cars.
We take one of the men in the garage. -
Mr. MoRDELL. That is, you take them if you need them :
Mr. For D. Yes, sir; if we do not need them they are in charge of
the garage, and sometimes if we have a man off we take one of those
men and put him in charge of a truck and then detail somebody else
to look out for the garage. - -
Mr. Mond ELL. In using your car do you find it generally more
advantageous to have a man along or do you run it yourself?
Mr. FoED. It is run by a chauffeur.
Mr. Mond ELL. Always?
Mr. Ford. Always.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 893
Mr. GILLETT. It brings you down in the morning and takes you
back'.
Mr. For D. Yes, sir; takes me to and from the office, and also takes
me down to the office in the evening. -*.
The CHAIRMAN. Were these cars purchased with the approval of
the Joint Committee. on Printing'
Mr. For D. One car that I can speak for, the latest car, was pur-
chased by myself. We had a horse and carriage and we did not see
why we should have stable room there and have a driver and pay
$60 or $65 a month for the horse when we could do away with it by
purchasing a car. We made requests upon the Joint Committee on
rinting for the purchase of a car, showing that it would save money
over the system then in vogue. The committee authorized the
Public Printer to get bids for an electric vehicle, which we did.
The several bids we got ranged from $3,800 up. One car, the car
that the Public Printer has now, was offered for $4,000. The Public
Printer deemed the price too high and refused to purchase. Later
on the car which we have now was purchased. I believe it was
made for some lady in town, and it cost $4,000, and the lady used
it twice and died. We were made acquainted with the fact, and got the
car for $2,800. The other car was in use before my advent into
office, and that one cost $3,700 or $3,800. The car purchased since
by the Public Printer cost $2,800 and was agreed to by the Joint
Committee on Printing.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you put in the record a statement showing
the difference in cost of maintaining these two cars and the horses
and vehicles which they displaced ? -
Mr. For D. Yes, sir; we will submit that. You understand there
is also confidential work done at the Printing Office which I take
charge of myself and deliver personally, either to the White House
or to Congress. Any confidential work I take charge of is carried in
that vehicle. * -
- Mr. GILLETT. It seems to me the point is why you need two vehi-
ClOS.
Mr. For D. To carry on the work.
Mr. GILLETT. You do not need two vehicles for confidential work
or for your paymaster? -
Mr. FORD. No; we might say we do not need two vehicles to carry
the paymaster; we might say we do not need two vehicles to carry
confidential work, but we may at any day. As a rule we have the two
vehicles in proper use. - - -
Mr. GILLETT. It might be proper use and not necessary use.
Mr. FORD. If it is not proper use it is not necessary. .
Mr. GILLETT. I venture to say all the use that is made of it is
not necessary. #
Mr. For D. I will have to disagree with you, Mr. Gillett.
Mr. GILLETT. You mean you could not hire at times an automobile
to take its place e
Mr. FORD. Yes, we could; but the question is whether that hire
would not amount to more money than the keep of these vehicles.
For instance, if we take the period of a month, it might be less one
month and it might be double the next month, according to the
amount of business.
Mr. GILLETT. And it might be less every month Ž
894 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. For D. It might be, or it might be more every month. ... I do
not think the idea is to prevent the purchase or maintenance of cars
if they are used for pº business. I think the idea is to prevent
somebody from using Government property for private use, and I
entirely agree with that. >
Mr. GILLETT. How can both of the cars be used at the same time
if you do not have any chauffeurs, except these two men who take
charge of the garage 3
Mr. FORD. There is one chauffeur for No. 2 car.
Mr. GILLETT. How much does he get?
Mr. For D. Thirty cents an hour, and if No. 2 car is not in use and
there is an emergency call for him, he would go on a truck.
Comparative statement showing yearly cost of a horse-drawn coupé and an electric-driven
: s coupé.
Double-horse coupé-------------------------------------------------- . . $1,363. 50
Electric-driven coupé.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 505. 70
PAYMASTER’s GUARD, INCREASE IN PAY.
Mr. For D. I would like to ask the indulgence of the committee
about another matter. We have there a guard who accompanies
the paymaster on his trips, carrying a revolver, etc., and his salary is
$1,000. The work of the office of the cashier has increased materially,
and this man is used also in a clerical capacity in the office, and I
would like to increase his salary $200 a year, if the committee sees fit.
I believe the man is entitled to it. He is known as the paymaster's
guard at $1,000. -
Mr. GILLETT. You mean he goes with him on these trips ?
Mr. FORD. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. These trips are always in the daytime, of course.
Mr. FoED. Yes, sir. -
Mr. GILLETT. So you have a chauffeur and a guard to go with him?
Mr. For D. Yes, sir. The Bureau of Engraving when they bring
their truck down have about 10 guards.
Mr. GILLETT. They have a great deal higher value?
Mr. For D. Yes; I so take it. g **
Mr. GILLETT. If you give him this compensation he will be carried
as a clerk' -> o
Mr. FORD. No, sir; he is carried as the paymaster's guard and also
does this other work. - -
Mr. GILLETT. What other work does he do? . . . .
Mr. FORD. He assists in placing money in envelopes, paying off,
and so on.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 895
ANNUAL REPORTs, FISCAL YEARs 1913 AND 1914, CoMPARISON OF.

1912 1913 1914
Report of +
Pages. Amount. | Pages. Amount. | Pages. Amount.
Commissioner of Navigation, commerce.... 256 $2,131. 53 216 || $1,801. 18 208 $1,750. 07
Clerk of House of Representatives. . . . . . . . . 448 3,806.32 432 4,411. 13 380 2,875.85
Libralian of Congress. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 248 2,898.44 280 3,162.96 230 3,082.67
Insurance department, District of Colum-
bia-------------------------------------- 688 4,882.92 676 4,287.26 704 4,477. 69
Health officer, District of Columbia. . . . . . . 404 1,869.89 264 2,216.63 224 1,906.80
Public Printer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 612 || 3,993.83 612 4,062.98 624 4,247.42
Secretary of Labor, personal report. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68 503. 20 104 552. 55
Secretary of Navy, pamphlet report. . . . . . . 104 126. 07 72 278. S8 96 584. 73
Postmaster General, personal report. . . . . . . 40 323. 50 60 133. 31 84 454.01
First Assistant Postmaster General. . . . . . . 36 178. 52 32 202.83 40 206. 56
Second Assistant Postmaster General . . . . . 132 971. 05 136 974. 93 112 841. 41
Third Assistant Postmaster General. . . . . . . 80 486. 62 80 513. 26 40 239.43
Fourth ASSistant Postmaster General. . . . . 16 63. 13 12 63. 76 24 138.41
Commissioner of Internal Revenue. . . . . . . . 208 1,732.19 22S 1,824.71 232 1,763. 29
Director of the Mint... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 324 || 2,469.68 336 2,551.81 288 2,168.91
State of finances, Secretary of the Treasury. 144 1,005. 56 204 1,308. 56 296 1,716. 12
Supervising Architect. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 304 1,461.88 420 3,033.93 420 3,061.06
Chief of Engineers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,236 | 19,794. 55 4, 144 || 23,234.36 || 4,938 24, 165.58
Attorney General. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 464 3,389.75 396 3,298. 14 420 3,473.65

Reports on which all the copies authorized have not been completely printed and
bound are not entered in above table, for the reason that no comparison could be
made—that is, as to cost.
Above figures show that, as a total
1913, compared with 1912— *
Pages decreased less than 1 per cent.
• . Cost increased about 12 per cent.
1914, compared with 1913–
Pages increased 9 per cent.
Cost decreased about 1 per cent.
ANNUAL REPORTs—DECISIONS OF ATTORNEY GENERAL RELATIVE To FURNISHING
- COPY TO THE PUBLIC PRINTER.
ANNUAL REPORT OF THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION.
DEPARTMENT OF J ustice,
September 21, 1914.
SIR: I have the honor to acknowledge your letter of the 28th ultimo, wherein you
request my opinion as to whether the annual report required by section 518, Revised
Statutes, to be furnished Congress by the Commissioner of Education is within the
operation of section 9 of the act of Congress of August 1, 1914 (making appropriations
for the Sundry civil expenses, etc.), reading: .
“SEC. 9. Appropriations herein for printing and binding shall not be used for any
annual report or the accompanying documents unless the head of each executive de-
partment, or other branch of the public Service, or the Commissioners of the District
of Columbia making such a report, shall furnish copy to the Public Printer in the fol-
lowing manner: Copies of the documents accompanying Such annual reports on or
before the 15th day of October of each year; copies of the annual reports on or before
... the 15th day of November of each year; and complete revised proofs of the accom-
panying documents and the annual reports on the 10th and 20th days of November
of each year, respectively. The provisions of this section shall not apply to annual
reports of the Smithsonian Institution.”
You quoted the above section incorrectly. It is correctly quoted here.
I am of the opinion that it is not, and for these reasons: 4
1. The words “the head of each” modify not only “executive department” but
also “other branch of the public service.” So paraphrased, the clause to be inter-
preted would read: +. r
“* * * unless the head of each executive department, or the head of each other
branch of the public service, * * *” etc. -
The Bureau of Education to which the commissioner belongs is itself a part of, or
within an executive department, viz, the Department of Interior. (Sec. 516, Rev.
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Stats.). The Secretary is the head of every bureau in his department. The force of
the section being limited to the heads only, his report only, and not that of a subordi-
nate bureau, is reached by the section. t - - - -
2. The word “other” in the clause is used in the sense of “different from those
which have been specified,” i. e., to express a difference. (Hyatt v. Allen, .54 Cal.
354; Diamond Match Co. v. Ontonagon, 188 U. S. 82, 92.) Thus paraphrasing it the
clause would read:
& 3: * unless the head of each executive department, or the head of each branch
of the public service different from those branches which have been specified,
* * *,” etc. * -
The Bureau of Education is a branch of the public service, but being a branch or
bureau within the department of the Interior it can not be a branch different from
the Interior Department. In United States v. Germaine (99 U. S., 508–511) the court .
said: *
“The association of the words ‘heads of departments’ with the President and the
courts of law strongly implies that Something different is meant from the inferior
commissioners and bureau officers, who are themselves the mere aids and Subordinates
of the heads of the departments.”
The specific exception in the final clause (Smithsonian Institution) represents a
branch of the public service not related to any executive department.
This conclusion is not affected by the fact that as section 9 was originally introduced
it, in terms, purported to amend section 196, Revised Statutes, and was recast in its
present form on account of the point of order made in the House. (Cong. Rec., p.
12070.) Section 196 was enacted in 1864, and is limited to “heads of executive depart-
ments,” while section 518 was not enacted until 1867, so that the latter was never
affected by the former. - * * w
Section 9 accords with the debates, wherein the Member having the bill in charge
explained the section as follows: - -
‘The purpose is to enable the Members of Congress to obtain copies of annual reports
of the various heads of departments some time before the adjournment of Congress.”
(Cong. Rec., p. 12069. See also p. 12070.)
I note your statement as to the matter contained in the report of the commissioner,
and the practical impossibility of assembling the data within the time prescribed
by section 9, and the further fact that the commissioner makes an independent bureau
statement annually to his department head, which appears in the annual report of the
Secretary. In vièw of the conclusion I reach, it is not necessary to consider what
effect, if any, these features would have.
The two printed volumes of the commissioner's report for 1913 are returned here with.
Respectfully, *
t
T. W. GREGORY.
o the SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR.
ANNUAL REPORT OF COMMISSIONER OF PATENTs.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
. - September 21, 1914.
SIR: I have the honor to acknowledge your letter of the 3d instant wherein you ask
my opinion as to whether the annual report required by section 494, Revised Statutes,
reading— -
“SEC. 494. The Commissioner of Patents shall lay before Congress, in the month of
January, annually, a report giving a detailed statement of all moneys received for
patents, for copies of records or drawings, or from any other source whatever; a de-
tailed statement of all expenditures for contingent and miscellaneous expenses; a
list of all patents which were granted during the preceding year, designating under
proper heads the subjects of said patents; an alphabetical list of all the patentees,
with their places of residence; a list of all patents which have been extended during
the year; and such other information of the condition of the Patent Office as may be
useful to Congress or the public ’’— -
is within the operation of section 9 of the act of Congress of August 1, 1914 (making
appropriations for the sundry civil expenses, etc.), reading— -
“SEC. 9. Appropriations herein for printing and binding shall not be used for an
annual report or the accompanying documents unless the head of each executive
department, Ör other branch of the public service, or the Commissioners of the District
of Columbia, making such a report shall furnish copy to the Public Printer in the
following manner: Copies of the documents accompanying such annual reports on or
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before the 15th day of October of each year; copies of the annual reports on or
before the 15th day of November of each year; and complete revised proofs of the
accompanying dycument and the annºual reports on the 10th and 20th days of
November of each year, respectively. The provisions of this section shall not apply
to the annial reports of the Smith onian Institution.” -
You quoted the above section incorrectly. It is correctly quoted here.
I am of the opinion that it is not. The reasons for this view are fully set forth in my
communication to you under date of September 21, 1914, involving the report of the
Commisioner of Education, within the Interior Department, and those reasons will
not be repeated here. …”
In addition, it may be said that section 494, Revised Statutes, calls for a report that
must cover the precºding calendar year, and can only be made in January, or at some
later date following the expiration of the calendar year; and the purpose of section 9
was not to postpone the making of report; but rathor to expedite them and was, in my
opinion, limited to those classes of reports which hitherto had been, and, therefore,
could be, assembled so as to meet the requirements of section 9.
Respectfully, -
*-- - - T. W. GREGORY.
To the SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR. - * -
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
STATE DEPARTMENT, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MIR. J. A. TONNER, CHIEF OF BUREAU OF
ROLLS AND LIBRARY,
The CHAIRMAN. The apr ropriation for the State Department is
$40,000 and your estimate is $45,000. What is the necessity for the
increase ? - -
Mir. TONNER. We are trying to print our Foreign Relations, and
we want to try to get out two volumes next year if we can. Last
year we asked for $45,000 and you gave us $40,000.
The CHAIRMAN. How far behind are you ?
Mir. ToNNER. 1909 is the last one printed. We will have 1910
º very soon, and the copy for 1911 will come in before the 1st of
uſy. .. *
The CHAIRMAN. You have printed 1909 %
Mir. To NNER. Yes, sir; that is finished.
The CHAIRMAN. And what do you say you have now % -
Mr. To NNER. The copy is all in for 1910 and will be ready in a few
months and then we will begin sending in couy for 1911, and print
as much as we can with the present appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. When will 1911 be ready? -
Mr. To NNER. We hope to get our copy in before the 1st of July,
but probably it will not be finished by that time. -
The CHAIRMAN. How many copies do you print of these volumes?
Mr. To NNER. We print for the department just 650 copies, but it
is a congressional document.
Mr. GILLETT. What books are these ? . ~
Mr. To NNER. The Foreign Relations, called the Red Book.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do they cost 3 -
Mr. To NNER. It depends upon the size. A volume of 800 pages
will cost about $3,200 or $3,500. •
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The CHAIRMAN. This year we gave you some money to get out
some of them 3 .. tº
Mr. TONNER. Yes, sir; that is what we have done. We have
printed 1910 and will get part of 1911 out of this year's appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. You have printed 1910?
Mr. TONNER: Yes; what I mean is that the copy has gone, and
we have read the proof, and it is just a question of getting it our.
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you want $5,000 more to get out 1911?
Mr. TONNER. We are going to get out 1912 next year and 1913 if
we have the money. The idea is we want to get them out if we have
the money, and, of course, if we have not the money we can not make
a move. If we can not get it out, of course the money will be turned
into the Treasury.
The CHAIRMAN. How soon are these publications supposed to be
Out -
Mr. To NNER. They are always a couple of years behind. We can
not very well bring them up to date on account of collating the
material. A lot of the matelial could be printed in two years, but
probably they would not want to plint it just at the present time,
and therefore we are always about two years behind. We aim to
catch up next year. - *
Mr. MondELL. Is there value not largely decreased by the fact
that they are not printed until so long after the events occur'
Mr. To NNER. No; I think not. They are a matter of permanent
record. They date back from the very beginning of the Government.
Mr. Mond ELL. Is there some policy in the matter of delay ?
Mr. To NNER. It is the difficulty of collating the material, of course,
and there is some matelial that could go in 18 months after some-
thing transpired that they possibly would not want to put in just at
the time.
Mr. MONDELL. That is what I had in mind. It is a matter of
policy not to publish the book too soon!
Mr. To NNER. Yes; and we have never been what you might call
up to date with it.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MR. F. F. WESTON, CHIEF DIVISION OF
PRINTING AND STATIONERY.
The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation for printing for the Treasury
Pºrtment is $380,000 and you are asking for $400,000. Why is
that '.
Mr. WESTON. Several items enter into that, MI. Chairman. The
first is the decision of the Comptroller of the Treasury of September 10,
by which he directed the Treasury Department to pay all the cost
of the supplies and printing of the Gencial Supply Committee, which
makes contracts for supplies for all the Government departments
and does a good deal of advertising and prints a large catalogue.
The expenses of that committee have heretofore been apportioned
among the different departments in proportion to the amount that
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they used the services of the committee. The printing for that
committee amounted to about $25,000 a year, and the Treasury had
been paying seven forty-eights of that amount.
The CHAIRMAN. How was it paid formerly 7
Mr. WESTON. By the different departments and independent
establishments in proportion to the amount they used its services.
That made a difference of about $20,000 in the amount to be provided
for the Treasury Department in printing alone. Another item that
enters into it is the passage of the emergency war revenue act, so
called, which requires a very large amount of printing for the use of
the Internal Revenue Bureau; and only recently, on December 17,
there was still another act called the opium or narcotic act, which
already has caused some expenditure, and will cause considerably
more, because it requires every druggist in the country to register
with the Collector of Internal Revenue, and those registration books
and other accounting books and forms have to be provided. If the
estimate for next year were to be figured now it would be made on the
basis of $425,000 rather than $400,000, in view of these things that
have transpired since the estimate was put in. All this new legisla-
tion seems to run right into the Treasury Department and hit the
printing appropriation. - *
The CHAIRMAN. Did not the war-revenue act provide for the print-
ing to be paid out of that appropriation?
Mr. WESTON. No, sir; it does not provide for the printing in terms,
and the Comptroller of the Treasury has held that the law requires
the printing to be done at the Government Printing Office unless there
e tº c tº & e * e
is a specific mention of printing in the act itself.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
WAR DEPARTMENT, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MIR, JOHN C. SCOFIELD, ASSISTANT AND
s CHIEF CLERK, WAR DEPARTMENT,
The CHAIRMAN. The War Department has an appropriation for
printing of $190,000 and you are asking for $210,000.
Mr. ScoPIELD. The printing that we ordered for the fiscal year
1914 actually cost $236,000. We had $190,000 plus $50,000 in a defi-
ciency, making $240,000. .
Mr. MondDLL. That is 1914%
Mr. SCOFIELD. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. You had $53,000 additional. Where did you get
that $53,000 % -
Mr. SCOFIELD. Is that the Public Printer's statement of repays 3
He charges up, you know, from other appropriations the amount of
the printing he does. - - .
The CHAIRMAN. What are the other appropriations
Mr. ScoPIELD. The Ordnance Department, the Engineers, and the
Signal Corps. There are several bureaus that have a field service and
have printing done out of appropriations which pertain to their field
SęTV1C0S.
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The CHAIRMAN. You say your printing costs how much 3
Mr. SCOFIELD, $236,000 in round numb rs.
The CHAIRMAN. You had an unexpended balance of $45,000 % .
Mr. SCOFIELD. No; we had an unexpended balance of about $3,000.
The CHAIRMAN. They give you an unexpended balance of $45,000.
Mr. SCOFIELD.. I am taking out the transfers and repays, as they
call them. They charge up the gross cost of all the printing which
they do, and they make it figure up $323,000. That ingludes print-
ing which they did for these different departments, field service,
which were repaid, and includes printing of books, etc., sold to the
militia under the law. .
The CHAIRMAN. Why do you want $210,000 % What is that due to ?
Mr. ScoPIELD. That is due to the fact that the service requires more
than $190,000. For; a great many years, from 1906 on for several
years, we had $275,000 appropriated. -
The CHAIRMAN. And we found out you were not spending it.
Mr. ScoRIELD. We were spending it up to within $20,000 or
$30,000; that is, we did not spend it when we did not need it—
but we had an average of $20,000 or $30,000 balance which we
turned back every year. Cne year Mr. Donnelly, who was then
Public Printer, said he found he had been charging the departments
too much for their printing – that was in 1910 and cut it down
5 per cent that year. That gave us a little larger balance than usual.
The next year he evidently cut it down a great deal more, because we
had a balance of $77,000. Therupon the committee, I suppose, cut
us down from $263,000 to $190,000. The Printing Office was taking
advantage of what I do not believe a permanent situation. The
Public Printer was trying to make a showing, and in an arbitrary way
he charged for overhead charges and one thing and another a certain
amount, and it left the Public Printer with money on his hands.
He charged the different departments too much money, and he
came before the committee and said he had charged them too much,
and therefore he was going to make his charge 5 per cent less, and
then the next year he evidently made it still less, with the result —
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). With the result you had more
money than you could spend. - -
Mr. SCOFIELD. Yes. If that had been kept up permanently we
would not need any more money, but evidently they have not
kept up the rate of charging.
The CHAIRMAN. Have they changed the charges }
Mr. ScoRIELD. I do not know. That is a matter entirely within
the power and cognizance of the Public Printer. I never Gould under-
stand 2nd I do not believe anybody else understands the system by
which he charges. It seems evidently to fluctuate from time to time.
º course, we have to have some leeway in the way of a working
3.18.0 Ge. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much will you spend this year } -
Mr. ScoFIELD. I am afraid we will spend this year about as much
as we did last year. I am afraid we will have to come here for a
deficiency due to this fact: As you remember, the Mexican situation
last May required us to come here for a deficiency of $50,000, which
you gave us. That would have carried us through last year, and
might have enabled us to go through this year on, say, $200,000 in
round numbers, but the Public Printer, instead of charging the
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printing which we had before him on requisition and , which we
wanted and had ordered for the fiscal year 1914 due to the unusual
situation, only charged us with about $5,000 worth.
The CHAIRMAN. That is all he did in that year'.
Mr. SCOFIELD. That is all he did in that year, but the comp-
troller has held in precisely the same kind of a case which the Civil
Service Commission had three or four years ago, that that printing,
if it was ordered for the fiscal year to meet the wants of the fiscal
year 1914, should be charged to that year. -
Mr. GILLETT. How could it be wanted for that year if it was not
going to be pºintſ d until the next year }
Mr. SCOFIELD. Because you have to keep a reasonable supply on
hand to meet the nº cºssibićs of the service throughout the Army.
The CHAIRMAN. That is a rather extraordinary ruling, that print-
ing ordered for the necds of the year, intended for the use of the year,
should be charged to that year even though it was not furnished until
the next yeal. t
Mr. ScoRIELD. That has been repeatedly held in the case of supplies
and specifically in the case of printing. -
Mr. MoMDELL. If the comptroller had not held that in this particu-
lar case your deficiency for 1914 would have been greater than it was.
Mr. ScoRIELD. Pricisely. ---
The CHAIRMAN. No; it would not.
Mr. SCOFIELD. It merely transfers the deficiency to another year.
Mr. MONDELL. It is merely a question whether you got a larger
deficiency last year or will have to have a deficiency this year';
Mr. SCOFIELD. That is exactly it. The printing we ordered and
needed was actually within a few dollars of the $50,000 appropriated
in the deficiency bill, and the result will be that $45,000 of that
ecomes a charge against this $190,000 appropriated for this year.
Mr. GULLETT. In other words, you intended to have on hand
$45,000 of it for this year? - • - ~~
Mr. SCOFIELD. Yes: you have to begin the fiscal year with some-
thing to start with. . .
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
NAVY DEPARTMENT, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MIR. R. H. MOSES, PRINTING CLERK.
The CHAIRMAN. The estimate for printing and binding for the
Navy Department, including not exceeding $25,000 for the Hydro-
graphic Office, is $145,000, and the current appropriation is $145,000.
Did you have any unexpended balance in 1914% –
Mr. Moses. A very slight one; not over $100.
The CHAIRMAN. And this year? w
Mr. Moses. The bills rendered to January 1 amounted to $44,784
for the Navy Department and $10,000 for the Hydrographic Office,
and in addition to that there are a large number of uncompleted
jobs equal to the amount of the bills rendered. Our unobligated
balance for the remaining six months is about $43,000.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you require this $145,000?
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Mr. MOSES. Yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. The bills rendered up to date amount to over
$44,000 % -
Mr. Moses. Yes, sir. .
Mr. MondELL. And you have other requisitions or orders there
that they are working on 3 \
Mr. Moses. Yes, sir; and in addition to that there are estimates.
Mr. MondELL. Are they not more than mere estimates? You
have work there that has been on hand for some time? * ,
Mr. Moses. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MonpELL. And on which the Public Printer has probably
done a good deal of work? -
Mr. Moses. Yes, sir. g
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
INTERIOR DEPARTMENT, PRINTING AND BINDING,
STATEMENT OF MR. L. F. SCHMECKEBIER, CHIEF DIVISION
OF PUBLICATIONS,
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For the Interior Department,
including not exceeding $60,000 for the Civil Service Commission, and
not exceeding $25,000 for the publication of the Annual Report of the
Commissioner of Education, $310,000.” The current appropriation
is $295,000. -
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. There is no increase in that estimate except for
the Civil Service Commission. The department's portion of that is
the same as last year. Mr. McIlhenny is here and he will explain the
increase for the Civil Service Commission.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did the report of the Commissioner of
Education cost 7 - -
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. That cost last year in the neighborbood of
$20,000. -
The CHAIRMAN. What was the last report'.
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. The last report is the report for 1913, and the
report for 1914 is on the press now in the Printing Office.
Mr. MonDELL. What bureaus of the Interior Department does this
cover ?
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. It covers the printing of all the bureaus. It
covers the miscellaneous printing of all the bureaus, but the patents
are provided for specifically. The printing of the specifications and
the Gazette for the Patent Office and the printing for the Geological
Survey are provided for separately.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you do any printing for the Patent Office out of
this appropriation ?
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. Their miscellaneous printing that is not cov-
ered by specifications and the Gazette—the blank forms.
Mr. MONDELL. Do you do any printing for the Geological Survey
Out of this appropriation ? o
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. Their miscellaneous printing that is not cov-
ered, the publications not covered by the other allotment. Their
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allotment is specifically confined to specific publications, bulletins,
water-supply papers, and the annual report, in the case of the Geo-
logical Survey, and the patent and trade-mark specifications and the
Official Gazette, in the case of the Patent Office. The miscellaneous
printing, blank forms, and other administrative printing is paid for
out of the department's allotment.
Tuesday, JANUARY 26, 1915.
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MR. JoHN A. McILHENNY, PRESIDENT, .
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Commissioner, what have you to say about
this estimate of $15,000 additional for printing'.
Mr. McILHENNY. Mr. Chairman, first, from the standpoint of the
commission this is a very necessary increase that we are asking. Our
work has gotten to the point where, unless we do have the increase,
we are going to be unable to handle the work which is thrown upon
us by the requirements of the departments. The increase represents
a part of the deficit of work that has been carried over by the com-
mission from year to year and which is growing larger each year.
The CHAIRMAN. What does that deficit consist of .
Mr. McILHENNY. We asked for 1914, $45,000. We were subse-
quently given a deficit of $8,000, making a total for the year of
$53,000. The total amount of printing charged to the commission
during the fiscal year 1914 was $51,737.79, although requisitions for
additional printing amounting to $4,987.56 were in the hands of the
Public Printer prior to July 1, but we could not have it printed in
that year, and asked him to hold the work until the end of the fiscal
year. !
The CHAIRMAN. What was the character of that work?
Mr. MCILHENNY. Examination questions of all kinds and announce-
ments of examinations and the different forms, such as application
forms of the commission. Besides the work which we gave to the
Public Printer and asked him to hold until after July 1, we held up
altogether $1,354.26 worth of work which was not sent to the Public
Printer, but held up until after July 1.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the character of that work?
Mr. McIIHENNY. The same as the first, but not so necessary to be
had immediately after July 1. As it takes from 30 to 60 days to get
the work performed through the office of the Public Printer, we send
in requisitions ahead of time. That was the reason we sent in the
$4,986 worth of work and asked him to hold it until after the 1st of
July.
The CHAIRMAN. That was work which really should be charged to
this year 7 -
Mr. MCILHENNY. No, sir; the work should have been properly
charged to the year before. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why? They were examination questions and
application blanks to be used this year 3 -
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Mr. McILHENNY. They were for examinations that would have
been held if we had had an adequate appropriation before July 1.
The CHAIRMAN. Examinations for what particular positions?
Mr. McILHENNY. I can not give you offhand exactly what they
WCTO.
Mr. MONDELL. If I understand, it was necessary for you to waive
examinations in some cases? -
Mr. McILHENNY. Postpone some examinations, not to waive them.
Mr. GILLETT. Except for your annual report, the blank forms,
questions, etc., are the only printing you have 3
Mr. McILHENNY. Yes, sir. This is simply the routine work of the
commission that has to be done to enable the commission to be at all
efficient or to º that work to the departments that is necessary for
the work in the departments themselves. It reflects back on the
different departments if we must delay these examinations in any
way. It is not for new work that the commission is seeking to put
out or new fields it is undertaking to cover; it is simply the routine
work of the commission that grows from year to year with the growth
of the departmental service.
Mr. MoMDELL. Do you have in mind the percentage of growth of
your work in the number of examinations held and the number of
people taking the examinations—the percentage of growth?
Mr. McILHENNY. I have something here which will show that, but
only for a short prriod. The numb: r of applications recºived during
the fiscal year 1914 incr: as: d more than 80 pºr cent over the number
received during the fiscal year 1912, and the commission's appro-
priation increased only 32.5 per cent.
Mr. MoRDELL. What do you mean by “applications received” .
Mr. McILHENNY. Those are the applications to take an examina-
tion. Virtually it means all of those who applied did take the exami-
nation, and the numb: I whose applications were refused would be
small. * º
Mr. MONDELL. That is approximately, then, the increase in the
numb: r who actually did take the craminations Ž
Mr. McILHENNY. Approximately; yes, sir.
Mr. MONDELL. You have not a statement of the increase in the
numb: r of txaminations held : -
Mr. McILHENNY. Not here; no, sir.
Mr. MonpELL. I suppose you are constantly increasing the number
of vour examinations by reason of the new public sº rvice coming in .
Mr. McILHENNY. Very greatly, sir. The whole service of the
United States is broadened. Whenever Congress orders a new phase
of activity that is reflected directly on the commission, because we
are required by law to hold the examinations for that increased
activity. The establishment of a new bureau will bring in 15 or 20
new forms of examination to get the kind of men that that bureau
needs to pursue its work authorized by law. Every one of those new
examinations requires new forms to be established, new printing,
new advertisements, and in that way our printing is always increas-
ing in amount and the burden upon the Commission is growing heavier
every year.
The CHAIRMAN. These examinations are frequently examinations
where there are at the time existing registers?
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Mr. McILHENNY. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. How is the work of the departments held back
by the printing if there are existing registers in your bureau?
Mr. McILHENNY. Because the register existing has either had the
best of it taken from it and will not be adequate to meet the needs
of the departments during the next fiscal year or the eligible list is so
depleted as to be entirely inadequate for the needs of the departments
for the next fiscal year. - -
The CHAIRMAN. I occasionally have a complaint that new exami-
nations are ordered before the expiration of the existing register and
that thereby the persons who have been on the eligible list for some
time are practically eliminated by the addition of a very large num-
ber to the existing register. -
Mr. McILHENNY. That is true, Mr. Chairman, in such locations as
New York for the Now York post office and for the Brooklyn post
office, but the Post Office Department, for instance, says, “We want
a new examination, although there are on the list 150 carriers and
clerks still eligible for appointment, because the marking of those
carriers and clerks range between 73 and 70, and by holding a new
examination we will have an ample list that will range between, say,
87 and down to 70.” . - g
The CHAIRMAN. Still, under the law, the man who gets 70 and
who is supposed to be competent, under that system never has a
chance .
Mr. McILHENNY. No. If he is reached within a year, then a new
examination would not be held. It is only where the eligible register
is about to expire by the year limitation that the new examination is
held. With the mass of work that the commission has in hand it
takes a very long time for the commission to rate the examination
papers of such a huge examination as clerk and carrier for New
York and Brooklyn, where there will be from 4,000 to 5,000applicants
in the examination. - - - - - T
It is a serious handicap to the commission to be curtailed in its
appropriation for printing, because in prevents the commission from
getting information before the people of the United States that it
is necessary for them to have in order to give them an opportunity
to come into the examinations and thereby enable the commission
to supply the neods of the departments. I can not too earnostly
urge you gentlemen to grant us this item.
I have here, Mr. Chairman, a memorandum which I have pre-
pared and which I should liko to have inserted in the record directly
along the lines of what I have just said, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Very well. #
(The statement referred to by Mr. McIlhenny follows:)
MEMORANDUM.
PRINTING AND BINDING,
The commission has submitted of $60,000 for printing and binding for the fiscal
year 1916. This estimate is based upon the actual needs of the commission, as shown
by the expenditures during the fiscal years 1914 and 1915. The appropriation for
1914 was $45,000, and subsequently a deficiency appropriation of $8,000 was secured,
making the total for the year $53,000. 3.
The total amount of printing charged to the commission during the fiscal year
1914 was $51,737.79, although requisitions for additional printing amounting to
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$4,987.56 were in the hands of the Public Printer prior to July 1, but the work was
not completed; and work amounting to $1,354.26 was held up in this office on account
of lack of funds. These items—$51,737.79 expended last year; $4,987.56, work
requisitioned for but not completed prior to July 1, 1914; and $1,354.26 worth of
work held up in this office and not requisitioned for on account of lack of funds prior
to July 1–total $58,079.61, which is the amount which should have been expended
and was required for the commission during the past fiscal year if all of its work had
been completed.
During the fiscal year 1910 the commission's appropriation for printing and binding
was $35,000. In 1911, 1912, and 1913 it was $40,000. The appropriation for 1914
was $45,000 with the subsequent addition of a deficiency appropriation of $8,000,
making a total of $53,000. The commission requested an appropriation of $55,000
for the fiscal year 1915, but was granted only $45,000. This amount will not be suf-
ficient, and a deficiency appropriation will be necessary. The insufficiency of the
appropriation has caused a growing deficit from year to year, thereby hampering each
year's appropriation by charges for work which should have been done in the previous
year but which could not be done on account of lack of appropriation. Owing to
insufficiency of funds it was necessary to hold up miscellaneous printing from Novem-
ber to January of the present fiscal year, and the same action will have to be taken
during the present quarter. The annual report of the commission has not been
printed for the same reason. With a view to economy, the first grade examinations
for the district service and examinations at first-class post offices have been post-
poned, and old questions have been used in a number of examinations.
The necessity for an increased appropriation is found in the expansion of the classi-
fied service and the increased number of applicants”for examinations. Among the
notable expansions of the Service may be mentioned classification of all fourth-class
postmasters, mechanical trades positions in the navy yard Service, the inauguration
of the parcel-post and postal-savings systems, and the law requiring the physical
valuation of railroads. . The utmost care has been exercised to limit printing to the
actual needs of the service and wherever possible the flexotype has been used, thereby
saving the cost of printing and the time of Stenographers and typewriters in preparing
circular letters and instructions. This work during the last fiscal year, if it had been
printed, would have cost $2,617.11. The amount of printing required is largely
governed by the number of applicants for examination. The number of applications
received during the fiscal year 1914 increased more than 80 per cent over the number
received during the fiscal year 1912, but the commission's appropriation increased
only 32.5 per cent, and the increase of appropriation requested is only 50 per cent
greater than the appropriation of 1912.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you hold competitive examinations for the
employees appointed in the physical valuation of railroads?
Mr. McILHENNY, Yes, sir. .
The CHAIRMAN. What positions are not in the classified service 2
Mr. McILHENNY, Five of the supervisory engineers, who compose
a consulting board, and I think two of the highest accountants. I
think that is all. - -
The CHAIRMAN. The attorneys are not ?
Mr. McILITENNY. The attorneys and assistant attorneys are ex-
cepted under Schedule A. - *
The CHAIRMAN. All others?
Mr. McILHENNY. The engineers of all grades below the advisory
board are appointed through the civil service.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that a competitive examination 7
Mr. McILHENNY. Yes, sir. We had 5,000 applicants for the senior
engineer position. It took us a very long time to rate the papers,
but Mr. Prouty told me that he was entirely satisfied with the per-
sons that we offered him. - wº * -
Mr. MONDELL. Did you hold those examinations pretty widely
over the country'.
Mr. McILHENNY. Yes, sir; all over the United States.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there anything else?
Mr. McKLHENNY. I do not know that I have anything further to
say, SII’. *-
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TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATERIENT OF MIR. GEORGE OTIS SMITH, DIRECTOR.
The CHAIRMAN. Your appropriation is $175,000, and your estimate
is $175,000. Do you need all of this money'. - - -
Mr. SMITH. In my opinion we have not yet caught up with the
reports in hand and ready for the printer. - -
The CHAIRMAN. In 1914 you had an unexpended balance of
$22,000 % . - --
Mr. SMITH. Yes, sir; and we had the year before that a Somewhat
similar unexpended balance. Both times, however, we had a num-
ber of manuscripts at the Printing Office ready for printing, more
than enough to take up such a balance; but, if you will remember,
the Printing Office on those dates was pretty well congested with
work. We usually have liabilities in excess of the total appropria-
tion before the end of the year, but those liabilities do not become
actual expenditures. The books show a smaller balance this year
than they did at the same time a year ago by about $40,000, and so
I think the chance is better that we will use the full appropriation.
We have a number of manuscripts awaiting printing at the Printing
Office. The only reason we have not expended the balance has been
conditions beyond our control. -
The number of reports in hand in the different stages being cdited
and ready for editing amounts to 200 reports. Cur year's output
is about 170 or 180, large and small. We are not accumulating
volumes in the Government Printing Cffice, but are distributing
more than we print. The reserve is not large.
Mr. MoRDELL. About how long does it require for the Government
Printing Cffice to turn out one of your ordinary publications after
you give them the order'.
Mr. SMITH. It is pretty hard, Mr. Mondell, to say what an ordinary
publication is, because some of them have colored maps and some
have not. An extreme case, to show the minimum, a report without
any illustrations, we have had a special case where it was less than a
week. Crdinarily such a report would take something like three
or four weeks or a month, a short report without any illustrations.
With illustrations it will run up to two or three months. It used to
take a matter of eight or nine months, and sometimes there may be
delays when we will have a long term like that even now; but there,
again, other factors enter into the matter. Whether or not Congress
is in session is perhaps the largest factor of all. I might say that we
are cutting down the length of the publications and cutting down
the size of the editions. In some cases we go too far and the report
is out of print and another issue needed within a month or so of its
first issue. Most of our publications are for direct distribution, not
for congressional distribution. - &
Mr. MonBELL. The resolution of Mr. Mann would only do away
with publications which are directly for distribution by the Members?
Mr. SMITH. Except sometimes perhaps a member, as you know,
will send in a list, to the survey for distribution through the survey,
and especially is that true where it is a report that has been printed a
908 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
number of years, and sometimes the reason for that request being
mã de to the survey direct is that the number or even the name of the
publication is not known to the Congressman, and he simply knows
the general subject or the area treated. .
PATENT OFFICE.
The CHAIRMAN. For the Patent Office the appropriation is $440,000
and your estimate is $440,000%
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. Yes, sir.
Th CHAIRMAN. Did you have any unexpended balance %
Mr. SCHMECKEBIER. $3.39.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT—PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MR. J. B. CADY, ASSISTANT CHIEF CLERK,
The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation for printing is $290,000, and
you are asking $325,000. What is the necessity for any increase ?
Mr. CADY. I will make a general statement regarding this increase.
The necessity for the increase of $35,000 asked for in the allotment
for printing and binding for the Post Office Department and the
postal service during the fiscal year 1916 is explained in this manner:
The allotment for the fiscal year 1914 was $290,000, and the books
show an unexpended balance of $4,681.89 for that year. This is not
a true balance, however, as $43,411.99, the cost of printing actually
ordered but not completed during that year, had to be brought for-
ward as a charge against the 1915, or this year's, allotment.
The CHAIRMAN: What was the character of that printing which
had not been finished 2 *
Mr. CADY. The regular forms.
The CHAIRMAN. They were for use this year?
Mr. CADY. They were for use at any time the work was completed.
The CHAIRMAN. It could not be used last year because it was not
completed, and therefore it was to be used this year }
Mr. CADY. Yes, sir. This brought-forward charge for this year
exceeds the amount brought forward the previous year by $26,575.44,
and is accounted for by the inauguration in the bureau of the Fourth
Assistant, Division of Supplies, of a new system whereby postmasters
were furnished a year's supply at one time instead of quarterly as
heretofore. x -
The CHAIRMAN. When did they start to furnish supplies by
quarters ?
Mr. CADY. That is the scheme that has been in operation for a num-
ber of years, and the new scheme was started, I should say, around
May or June of last year, and under that system it means that prac-
tically two years' supply of forms had to be bought within the one
allotment in order to furnish these post offices a whole year's supply
instead of by quarters as heretofore. -
Mr. SHERLEY. Are you not now situated so you do not need so
much because of that big supply you have allowed them .
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 909
Mr. CADY. No, sir; because it works just this way: For instance,
if you are paying your rent at the end of the month and you want to
change that method and pay your rent at the beginning of the month,
it means you have got to make two payments; in other words, you
have to pay a full month's rent at the end of the month and a full
month's rent at the beginning of the month in order to accomplish
that result and reverse the method of procedure. So we do not really
realize the benefit – — 3. .
Mr. SHERLEY (interposing). Until you quit?
Mr. CADY. That is the idea, exactly. -
Mr. SHERLEY. You do not mean by that you have to have an annual
increase equal to the jump made the one year by the increase ?
Mr. CADY. Oh, no, sir. This is the idea, this change of procedure
necessitates a considerable increased expenditure during this year.
Mr. SHERLEY. And after that time it will not be necessary 7
Mr. CADY. A portion of it will fall into next year because the money
is now not available to supply all these post offices, and if we get a
deficiency to cover it we will not get it in time for the Government
Printing Office to complete the work before the close of the fiscal year,
so that naturally there will be a greatly increased carry over charge
in the next year's allotment. -
The CHAIRMAN. I do not quite understand your illustration about
paying rent at the beginning of the month when you had been paying
it at the end of the month. Certainly you have not been forwarding
supplies at the end of the year that were going to be used during that
G8I’. -
y Mr. CADY. No, sir; but we have been furnishing supplies each
quarter and if we decide now to furnish them for a whole year it
means we have got to take up the remaining three-fourths and furnish
them at one time.
The CHAIRMAN. How does that require any additional money for
the year 3
Mr. CADY. It means that the printing for the year which had
formerly been distributed over the entire year, and some of the work
naturally charged to the following year, has to all be done now
within the year.
The CHAIRMAN. How could it be charged to the following year }
Mr. CADY. As a carry over charge if the work is not completed.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not then get the material until after the
year 2
Mr. CADY. That is right. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Then how could you deliver it
Mr. CADY. But we have to order it. -
The CHAIRMAN. I do not see how that accounts for any increase.
Mr. SHERLEY. The reason is they never stayed current and they
got behind, and the result is when they undertook to come up cur-
rent and go forward they had to carry Over a last year's liability.
The CHAIRMAN. You simply account for this increase by the fact
you are going to issue a year's supply instead of a quarter's supply
four times a year? -
Mr. CADY. It happens that they started out with a depleted stock.
We had an appropriation this year of $290,000, and there was a carry-
Over charge from the preceding year of $43,411.99. *
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The CHAIRMAN. That was for stock on hand this year and used
this year 7 - -->
Mr. CADY. That was for stock which we got this year and used this
year, but which was ordered last year. -
The CHAIRMAN. It does not make any difference when it was
ordered, but when you use it.
Mir. CADY. Just consider it that way. We got it and used it this
year. That left an available balance of $246,588.01 at the begin-
ning of the year out of which to provide a year's supply for all post
offices all over the country and in addition, to follow out that scheme,
we have got to Order and receive during this same year another year's
Supply in Order to take care of the demand for the ensuing year.
The CHAIRMAN. $35,000 would not be sufficient to give you a two
years’ supply §
Mr. CADY. No, sir; it will not be sufficient, and the former proced-
ure has been reverted to. They found this plan was not workable and
they have gone back to the quarterly method of furnishing supplies,
which enables us to get along with an increase of only $35,000.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not need that. You have not spent
$290,000 in seven or eight years.
Mr. MonoFLL. How much did you spend in 1914%
Mr. CAD.Y. We expended in 1914, out of the allotment of $290,000,
$285,318.01, leaving a balance of $4,681.99 unexpended, but with a
carry-over charge to the present year of $43,411.99, which means that
if the work actually ordered had been delivered within that year there
would have been a deficiency of $39,000.
The CHAIRMAN. That is true; but you did not expect to get those
supplies during that year or to use them during that year?
Mr. CADY. We most assuredly did. We expected to get them and
use them, but the Government Printing Office did not furnish them.
The CHAIRMAN. Then you ordered $39,000 worth of supplies that
you did not need, because you got along without them.
Mr. CADY. The service suffered from that.
The CHAIRMAN. How did the service suffer'. What was short 2
Mr. CADY. It suffered in this manner, they did not get the neces-
sary forms to work with. !
The CHAIRMAN. What forms did they not get 3
Mr. CADY. I would have to get you a list of those.
The CHAIRMAN. I want a statement of that begause I want to know
if that is so. I have not heard of any complaint that there were any
forms short in the service. -
Mr. CADY. Perhaps I can go further and explain this other rea-
SOIOl
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How much did you spend in 1913%
Mr. CADY. We had an allotment of $290,000 in 1913 and we actu-
ally expended—that is, had bills put in for $279,247.77, and there was
an unexpended balance of $10,752.23; but a carry-over charge in that
same year of $16,836.55, which means, as I stated before, that there
would have been a deficiency in that year had we actually received
the goods. -
The CHAIRMAN. In 1910 the appropriation for the Post Office De-
partment was $350,000, and you had a balance of $76,387.69.
Mr. CADY. Yes sir. I have not before me the carry-over charge
for that year, however.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 911
The CHAIRMAN. What was it for that year 7
Mr. CADY. I have not the figures with me. - *..
The CHAIRMAN. We found out that the department was going
along with a very large unexpended balance.
Mr. CADY. Perhaps I can make this a little clearer if you let me
conclude my former statement. -
The CHAIRMAN. On the 31st of December. 1910, you had $246,280
unexpended out of an appropriation of $350,000. Based on that
situation the reduction was made in the appropriation and there has
been no complaint that we have known about that the department
has been short in any supplies in 1912, 1913, or 1914.
Mr. CADY. There is an unusual situation at this time.
Mr. MONDELL. Do you take an account of printing stock on hand
at the end of the fiscal year?
Mr. CADY. They have had an inventory of the stock within the
last month; yes, sir.
Mr. MondELL. How did your inventory of stock on hand at the
end of the fiscal year 1913 compare with that at the end of the fiscal
year 1914 : w
Mr. CADY. I have not an analysis of that before me.
Mr. MonBELL. That is a very impotrant thing. How does the
stock at the end of the fiscal year 1914 compare with the stock the
1st of January 7
Mr. CADY. The stock at the end of the fiscal year 1914 was very
much depleted, due as I say to the installation of the new method
of supplying post offices. *
Mr. MONDELL. Whatever it was due to the question is, was it
depleted'
Mr. CADY. Yes, sir. 3.
The CHAIRMAN. You mean the stock on hand here, but an addi-
tional amount of stock was in the hands of the postmasters?
Mr. CADY. Yes, sir. • - , - ---
The CHAIRMAN. So that, as an actual fact, it was not depleted in
the sense that it had been used up 3
Mr. CADY. No, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Of course, that is the important question.
The CHAIRMAN. It was just a difference in the form of custody, and
instead of holding here three-fourths of a year's supply they had
delivered that to the post offices. -
Mr. MonBELL. There are two questions involved in this printing
proposition, it seems to me; one is the condition of your stock through-
out the service . r
Mr. CADY (interposing). Yes, sir. -
Mr. MONDELL. And the second is the needs of the service as com-
pared with its needs the year before, as to volume 3
Mr. CADY. Yes, sir. -
Mr. Mond ELL. Do you need any more printing in the next fiscal
year for the service, or will you need more during next year than you
are needing and using for the service during this current year 3
Mr. CADY. Yes, sir; we do.
Mr. Mond ELL. And that arises out of what ? -
º CADY. It arises out of the conditions that I attempted to ex-
plain.
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Mr. MondELL. I do not care anything about the conditions—I am
talking about the service. Will you need and use during the fiscal
year 1915 more printed blanks for the Post Office Department than
you used during the last fiscal year, and during the fiscal year 1916
will you need and use more than you are using during this present
fiscal year }
Mr. CAD.Y. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? -
Mr. CADY. An additional reason is that the parcel-post guide,
which was printed in 1914, will have to be reprinted on the 1st of
July at a cost of in the neighborhood of $15,000. That will have to
be done in order to keep the service in efficient operation. In addi-
tion to that —— -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). TXid you say in order to keep it in
operation? -
Mr. CADY. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. Why will you have to reprint it'.
Mc. CADY. Because it is out of date. Post offices have been discon-
tinued and put in the service, and they are changing constantly.
This parcel-post guide is something along the same line as the Postal
Guide, which is printed annually on the 1st of July. Then, it is con-
templated to print what we call a Zone key for each unit. This zone
key does away with the parcel-post map. In other words, when a
postmaster wants to determine the rate for a certain Zone, instead of
going to the parcel-post guide and getting the unit number, and then
having to look it up on the map, all that he has to do is to get that
number from the guide and this key shows the Zone.
The CHAIRMAN. Then, you should have a saving on maps?
Mr. CADY. We will save in maps and the time of the clerks in looking
over the maps. It will be right before him. We have printed the e
for the 55 largest offices now, and we will need about $12,000 to print
approximately 1,000 more sets, all of which will come out of next
year's allotment. We have not sufficient money to do it now, and,
as I intimated before, it will be necessary to ask for a deficiency in
this year's allotment to carry us over.
Mr. MoRDELL. Is there in addition to that a certain growth of the
service that increases the printing bills from year to year }
Mr. CADY. There is a general growth, and in addition -
Mr. MONDELL (interposing). There is a general growth, we know;
but does that growth necessarily increase to a considerable extent
your printing bills?
Mr. CADY. That is a hard question to answer, because printing
fluctuates from year to year. For instance, I can illustrate that to
you by the table I have before me. In 1904 we had an appropriation
of $400,000, and we expended out of that $342,000, in round numbers;
in 1905 we had an appropriation of $350,000, and we spent out of
that appropriation $349,000; in 1906 we had an appropriation of
$350,000 and we spent out of that only $296,000; in 1907 we had an
appropriation of $335,000 and we spent out of that $334,000; in
1908 we had an appropriation of $350,000 and we spent of that only
$325,000; in 1909 we had an appropriation of $350,000 and we spent
of that $323,000; in 1910 we had an appropriation of $350,000 and we
spent of thet $273,000; in 1911 we had an appropriation of $347,000
and spent of that $301,000. - -
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. . 913
The CHAIRMAN. In 1911 you had $350,000 :
Mr. CADY. My figures show $347,000, but perhaps that is a typo-
graphical error.
Mr. PATTERSON, $3,000 of the appropriation for that year went to
the Civil Service Commission. - *
Mr. CADY. In 1912 we had an appropriation of $300,000 and spent
$286,000, in 1913 we had an approristion of $290,000 and of that we
expended $279,000, and in 1914 we had an appropriation of $290,000
and expended of that $285,000, with, as I have said, an unusually
large carry-over charge of $43,000, which was in excess of the pre-
vious year's carry-over charge by $26,000, and which naturally is a
direct loss to this year's allotment. - -
Mr. GILLETT. There must be some explanation in the way of using
a smaller number of forms or of having better methods of doing
business. There must be something that accounts for this.
Mr. CADY. The explanation is, as I say, that the Fourth Assistant
Postmaster General instituted a new method by which a year's supply
was sent out at one time, instead of the quarter's supply, as hereto-
fore. That meant that instead of being able to furnish supplies to
post offices by quarters, they determined to send a whole year's supply
at one time, with the result that in order to do that the whole stoc
on hand was not only entirely depleted here in the Division of Sup-
plies in this city, but it also necessitated the immediate renewal of
that stock, in order to take care of requisitions coming in, because
they did not have a sufficient supply on hand to supply a year's
stock; meaning that in order to take care of that it was necess ry to
continue to put in requisitions until they could get a proper supply
That has been done, with the result that on January 1st of this year
we had a balance remaining of but $47,170.21 and unfilled requisitions
pending sufficient to more than exhaust the balance for the year.
The CHAIRMAN. You had half of your appropriation ? … --
Mr. CADY. We did not violate the half-year proposition. The bal-
ance shown was based on estimates and had not been billed out.
The estimates from the Division of Supplies and the estimates for the
departmental printing, as compiled by the printing clerk for the de-
partment, aggregate for printing $125,835.80, which will have to be
ordered and delivered out of the balance of this year's allotment to
provide the post offices throughout the country with the necessary
rinting.
p The &amas. You will have to change the system.
Mr. CADY. The system has been changed.
The CHAIRMAN. You can not require that much there. If the de-
partment wants to come with a j. like that ––
Mr. CADY (interposing). It will make a deficit of approximately
$80,000. .
The CHAIRMAN. You can not get this stuff printed unless you get
the money? *.
Mr. CADY. No, sir; and unless we get the money and get it printed
we will not answer for the consequences to the Postal Service through-
out the country.
The CHAIRMAN. It is very remarkable that you should want nearly
a 50 per cent increase this year over what was required for the pre-
vious year, while the department is doing less work than it did last
yea.
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Mr. CADY (interposing). It is due entirely to the change in the
procedure. -
The CHAIRMAN. You should not change the procedure in that way.
It appears that all of these economical methods result in more appro-
priation, and we want to get back to the old plan.
Mr. CAD.Y. This change in the procedure is something over which
the chief clerk of the department, who has jurisdiction of the printing
item, has no control. \
The CHAIRMAN. But the Post Office Department has control
over it. - ->
Mr. CADY. I would like to say in addition, if it meets with your
approval, that even putting aside the question of an increased
appropriation to cover the printing due to this change in the pro-
cedure, we would need the increase asked for merly to take care of
the printing connected with the parcel-post guide and Zone keys, for
which we have formerly had no appropriation, except the original
appropriation of some $90,000 which took care of the printing for the
Parcel Post Service in 1912 and 1913. Since that time there has
been very little printing necessary On account of parcel post, by
reason of the fact that the service was well stocked out of this special
appropriation. The supply, however, is becoming depleted at this
time, and we are only just now feeling the need for extra money
to be expended in connection with that service, all of which will
have to come out of the regular printing allotment. We have no
special printing appropriation at this time to carry that printing,
and in order to do it we will have to have the money put into this
printing allotment. -
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, PRINTING AND BINDING,
STATEMENT OF MIR. C. R. SHERWOOD,
The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation for printing for the Department
of Justice is $35,000, and your estimate is $35,000; did you have any
unexpended balance last year }
Mr. SHERWOOD. We had an unexpended balance of $1,284, but
there is a lot of our work in the Printing Office which had not been
completed which would have more than used that up.
The CHAIRMAN. How is this year's appropriation ?
Mr. SHERwooD. This year's appropriation on the 31st of December
we had completed work from $9,000 to $12,000, and work in the
Government Printing Office for which the estimate was $8,600, a
total of $21,000, leaving $13,700 available.
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TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
A.
DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MR. JOSEPH A, ARNOLD, EDITOR AND CHIEF
DIVISION OF PUBLICATIONS.
The CHAIRMAN. Your estimate for printing and binding for the
Department of Agriculture is $500,000 and the current appropriation
is $500,000. The estimate includes not to exceed $47,000 for the
Weather Bureau and not to exceed $137,500 for Farmers' Bulletins.
What is your unexpended balance' -
Mir, ARNOLD. We have an unexpended balance of $3,215.4 .
The CHAIRMAN. What is the need for the additional money this
ear? -
y Mr. ARNOLD. We have not asked for any.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you used all of the appropriation :
Mr. ARNOLD. Yes, sir; up to $3, 15.42 during the last fiscal year.
Now, that should not be taken as an indication that we did not need
that $3, 15.4.2, because, as a matter of fact, we had $4 ,000 worth of
work in the Printing Office which was not completed.
The CHAIRMAN. That was carried over to this year }
Mr. ARNOLD. Yes, sir; carried over into this year. Of course,
there is a certain amount of that which has to occur each year. We
have not asked for any increase for next year, although, I really think
we ought to have it.
The CHAIRMAN. You would spend it; there is no doubt about that.
Mr. ARNOLD. Perhaps you do not remember, Mr. Chairman, that
the department is about to undertake a line of work which will require
IO.OI’G Fº than any other project it has ever had, and that is the
agricultural extension work. A principal part, if not the principal
part, of that work will be the preparation, printing, and distribution
of publications. I mention that so that you will not consider for one
moment reducing the present appropriation, because we will require
it, and I expect it will not be very long before we will be asking for
&Il ºlitional appropriation on account of the agricultural extension
WOT}{.
There is another matter I want to call your attention to. I want to
have an opportunity to be heard if there is any change contemplated
in this appropriation on account of the printing bill which is now
ending. If there is any change contemplated on account of that
ill I would like to have an opportunity to be heard.
º ºneas. There is nothing that I know of in connection with
this bi gº
Mr. ARNOLD (interposing). In the printing bill it is proposed to take
the occasional distribution of farmers' bulletins away from the de-
partment, and presumably there would be an effort made to decrease
the appropriation for farmers' bulletins. Now, if any matter of that
Hºme before you, I should like to have an opportunity to be
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TUESDAY, JANUARY 12, 1915.
PRINTING AND BINDING, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.
STATEMENT OF MR. GEORGE JOHANNES, DISBURSING CLERK,
AND MR. DAN C, WAUGHAN, CHIEF DIVISION OF PUBLICA-
TIONS. s’
The CHAIRMAN. Your current appropriation for printing and
binding is $400,000 and you are asking for $430,000.
Mr. JoBANNEs. The first thing we want done is to have the proviso
stricken out this year.
The CHAIRMAN. Why? • -
Mr. JoHANNEs. That proviso was inserted in order to restrict the
rinting of publications of the Thirteenth Decennial Census to the
#. Census approrpiations, which was perfectly proper, but
we have reached the stage now where we are getting calls for reprints
of Thirteenth Census publications. We have no more Thirteenth
Census money left, and if we want to complete sets or reprint bulletins
of the Thirteenth Decennial Census we have to use the regular printing
allotment to do it. This, of course, prevents that, and it stops the
distribution of any Thirteenth Census printing.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the unexpended balance in 1914%
Mr. WAUGHAN. About $30,000.
Mr. GILLETT. Is the whole original publication of the Thirteenth
Census completed? - -
Mr. WAUGHAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. And nothing will have to be printed .
Mr. WAUGHAN. Only a few reprints of bulletins and reports.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did you say your unexpended balance
was 7
Mr. WAUGHAN. We expended, in 1914, $410,700.77, leaving an
unused balance of $30,299.23.
Th; CHAIRMAN. Why do you want this additional $30,000 next
year
Mr. VAUGHAN. We want that partly to take care of printing for
the census of manufactures, which will be taken during the present
calendar year. We also want some of it to print special reports of
commercial attachés abroad, and the reports of the commercial
agents who are sent to South America and other parts of the world.
The CHAIRMAN. How much of it will be used to print the reports of
the agricultural census 2 .
Mr. JoHANNEs. Nothing.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you include that in your estimates ?
Mr. WAUGHAN. That is not provided for in this estimate.
Mr. JoHANNEs. We provided for that in the estimates for the
agricultural census. -
The CHAIRMAN. How much of it is for the reports of these commer-
cial attachés
Mr. VAUGHAN. That is purely an estimate.
The CHAIRMAN. Well, how much did you include for that ?
Mr. WAUGHAN. We thought there would be about $10,000 or
$12,000 required for that class of work.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the other money estimated for 7
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 917
Mr. WAUGHAN. We want some for the census of manufactures.
The CHAIRMAN. How much is estimated for that % -
f * WAUGHAN. Probably we would use about $18,000 or $20,000
Or that. -
The CHAIRMAN. Was that included in the census appropriation ?
Mr. JoHANNES. No, sir; that was only for field work. -
The CHAIRMAN. Why did you include printing in the estimate for
the agricultural census and did not include it in the estimate for the
census of manufactures 7 - -
Mr. JOHANNES. Because the agricultural census was more nearly
in line with the regular population census, and following the plans of
appropriations by Congress for these extremely large pieces of work
we included that in the census estimate; but in the case of the census
of manufactures, which was a comparatively small proposition when
compared with the agricultural census and population census, we
did not make any special appropriation for printing, except to add
a little to our printing item. The agricultural census appropriation
would extend over two years and probably a little beyond that, and
when we got through we thought it would be better to have the total
cost paid out of one appropriation and show Congress just exactly
how we spent it. .
The CHAIRMAN. What was your unexpended balance in 1913 Ž
Mr. VAUGHAN. It was a little over $3.
The CHAIRMAN. You have had taken away from you all of the
printing for the Department of Labor, aggregating $84,00, so this
is really an increase of $124,000 over the appropriation of $400,000
for 1913. That is an extraordinary increase.
Mr. WAUGHAN. I think you have the figures wrong. We had
$525,000 for 1914.
The CHAIRMAN. In 1913 you had the printing of the Department
of Labor and you had an appropriation of $400,000. ... * *
Mr. WAUGHAN. But during 1913 we had no census printing, or
rather a very small amount of it.
The CHAIRMAN. I know, but you had a large margin in there——
Mr. WAUGHAN (interposing). The Census jºureau printing ran–
for instance, in 1904 it had $250,000
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We are beyond those halcyon days.
Mr. WAUGHAN. In 1914, the corresponding intercensal year 10
years later, it expended only $110,000. In 1905, $170,000 was
allotted to it by law, but for 1915 the department allotted only
$120,000 to it. Prior to 1913 there were two allotments to the
department, but commencing with 1913 those two allotments were
consolidated into one. There was a provision, however, that the
Thirteenth Census reports should be paid for from the Thirteenth
Census appropriation. That is the reason the department's allot-
ment has grown in recent years. It really has not grown, but we
have consolidated the two allotments into one. Also prior to 1907
the original cost of publications authorized by law—composition,
stereotyping, etc.—was paid by Congress, but since that time we
have paid the original cost from the department's allotment. That
has contributed somewhat to the increase in recent years. Alto-
gether our allotment at the present time, or what we are asking for,
is really less than the amount we had for the corresponding year 10
years ago.
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The CHAIRMAN. We expected that it would be a great deal less.
Mr. VAUGHAN. We are trying to cut corners wherever we can, and
we are asking this year practically for a restoration of the amount we
had in 1914, which was cut down in 1915.
For the proviso we have there now to the printing allotment the
Secretary has suggested this proviso: -
Provided, That the cost of reprinting publications of the Thirteenth Decennial
Census may hereafter be charged against the regular printing allotment of the Depart-
ment of Commerce. º -
That is proposed so we can utilize the 1915 allotment for these
reprints. f
Mr. SHERLEY. From whom do you get this demand for reprints'
Mr. VAUGHAN. The Census Bureau 10 years ago printed about 15,000
and over of all its reports. In furtherance of an effort to cut down
the distribution of Thirteenth Census reports, it printed only 5,000
copies. Of course, there were one or two volumes of which they
printed a larger number—the agricultural volume, for instance.
That edition all became exhausted. 2 *
Mr. SHERLEY. That does not answer my question. I asked you
from whom you received the demand 7 r
Mr. VAUGHAN. Largely from schools, Members of Congress, and
libraries. We have also a constant demand for them from individuals.
Mr. JoHANNEs. The more popular of the census reports, the ones
for which we get demands, are exhausted. We probably have some
that we can supply from the Thirteenth Census, but the ones the
people want are gone.
Mr. VAUGHAN. I think there is a misunderstanding. These reprints
of reports are intended to be very small editions. We do not propose
to print over three or four hundred, as a rule. For popular distribu-
tion we have bulletins covering each State, and those bulletins are
distributed in response to the popular demand. The larger volumes
are distributed to libraries, schools, Members of Congress, and de-
serving individuals who might desire a complete set. I might add
that the printing for the Thirteenth Census cost about $250,000 less
than that for the Twelfth Census.
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 26, 1915.
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF ME, SAMUEL J. GOMPERS, CHIEF DIVISION
OF PUBLICATIONS AND SUPPLIES.
The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation for printing for the Department
of Labor is $115,000 and the estimate is $147,000 : -
Mr. GOMPERs. Yes, sir. The personnel of the Children's Bureau,
as you doubtless remember, was increased from 15 clerks to 76 clerks.
The increase in the force, of course, has led to a corresponding increase
in its activities. The bulletins which they publish are in very great
demand by mothers, physicians, and the different organizations of
women all over the country. The demands for the bulletins Infant
Care and Prenatal Care can not possibly be met with the amount of
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 919
money we have available for that purpose. They ask for an increase
of $15,000 in their appropriation. They have increased from 15 to
76 in the number of clerks and of course their activities have corre-
spondingly increased. -
Mr. GILLETT. Is that increase for the printing of the bulletins'
Mr. GOMPERS. For the printing of the bulletins of that bureau.
Mr. GILLETT. Who writes the bulletins 7
Mr. GOMPERs. The different employees in the bureau.
Mr. GILLETT. The regular employees, or do they hire people to
write them . - -
Mr. GOMPERS. The regular employees of the bureau have written
all the bulletins they have published to date. Of course, the bulle—
tins which they publish on taking care of children they send to
eminent surgeons and physicians all over the country to get their
opinions before they publish them, which is a mighty good thing.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics asks for an increase in their appro-
priation of $7,000 over that received last year.
The CHAIRMAN. How much did they receive last year 7
Mr. GOMPERs. The Secretary allotted them $48,000. They ask
for $55,000 this year. They have never been able to print enough
bulletins to supply the demand of corporations, business men, lawyers,
labor unions, economic associations, etc.
Mr. GILLETT. How many do they publish
Mr. GOMPERs. The editions run from 8,500 to 12,000.
Mr. GILLETT. How many different bulletins do they publish on
statistics :
Mr. GOMPERS. I can not answer that question offhand, but they
average about two bulletins a month. They are expensive bulletins,
because most of them contain tabular matter. *
Mr. GILLETT. Do the bulletins contain the same statistics?
Mr. GOMPERs. No, sir; statistics on different subjects. There is
One set of bulletins on retail prices, another on wholesale prices,
another on the danger from dust and fumes in factories, another on
wages and hours of labor in different industries, another on poisoning
in different industries, and several other series.
Mr. GILLETT. You do not call those statistical bulletins'
Mr. GOMPERs. Not all of them. The name of that bureau used to
be the Bureau of Labor, but the bill creating the Department of Labor
changed the name to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, no doubt to pre-
vent confusion with that of the department. As a matter of fact,
they not only gather labor statistics, but other information on various
Subjects published in bulletin form.
Mr. GILLETT. Not statistical bulletins'
Mr. GOMPERs. Not entirely; most of them.
The Immigration Service did not use up all their money this year
On account of the decrease in immigration, but the new distribution
of labor scheme, of which you have doubtless read and which the
department is just about, putting in operation now, will require an
immense amount of printing, because every postmaster in the country
will have to have a certain number of blanks to send to the different
distribution stations. If a farmer wants labor, he informs the post-
master, gets a blank, and fills it out, and it is sent to the distribution
station. There are 18 distribution stations of the Immigration
Service where they can send for labor if it is to be had. That is
920 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
going to require a good deal of printing. Of course, each blank will
cost but little, but the great number will make it expensive. They
ask for an increase of $2,000 to cover that.
The Naturalization Service asks for an increase from $15,000 to
$22,000–$7,000 increase. That is caused by an increase of 45 per
cent in the naturalization work. That is a self-sustaining bureau,
in the sense that they make more money than they spend on account
of the naturalization fees. That requires an immense amount of
rinting in the way of blanks, which each court must have. These
j are distributed from my division, and I know that we can
not supply them fast enough.
In the Secretary's office there is an increase from $9,000 to $10,000.
That fund is used for the printing of special bulletins and reports in
compliance with sections 9 and 10 of the enabling act, conciliation.
We lº. not as yet used as much money as that, the work being
mostly tentative in the beginning. It has not been published in
special reports, but has been published in the annual report, I
believe that covers all of the increases. If there are any questions
which the members of the committee would like to ask, I shall be
glad to answer them. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is there any limit as to the number of bulletins
in an edition ? -
Mr. GOMPERS. No, sir. The printing act regulates the number
that can be published. The act creating the Children's Bureau
provides that they can print such number as the Secretary of Labor
may direct.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what I had in mind, whether that was
lº the discretion of the Secretary or whether the law fixed some
imit,'
Mr. GOMPERS. The law fixes no limit on the Children's Bureau
Teports.
he CHAIRMAN. On any of the other bureaus'
Mr. GOMPERS. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is limited to 30,000.
The CHAIRMAN. To each bulletin 7
Mr. GOMPERs. Yes, sir. They never reach that limit. They seldom
go above 12,000. They can not afford to, because if they did they
could not publish any new material. If they were to distribute the
bulletins as the people ask for them, they could not possibly print
more than half the number of different bulletins they now print.
Mr. MoRDELL. Are there reprints?
Mr. GOMPERS. Very seldom, unless the bulletin is in such demand
that the reprinting can not be fought off. In the Children's Bureau
we could print hundreds of thousands of copies of every bulletin and
still not have enough. When a party writes in for a large number of
bulletins, which occurs every day, we write back and inform him that
the superintendent of documents has the bulletins for sale. We
supply only individual copies and not large numbers.
The CHAIRMAN. Please furnish us with a list showing the character
of bulletins issued by the Children's Bureau and the Bureau of Labor
Statistics. Those are the bureaus which issue the bulletins'
Mr. GOMPERs. Yes, sir; they are the only bureaus that issue
bulletins. The others issue circulars and blanks. -
The CHAIRMAN. Please furnish us with a statement of the bulletins
issued by the Children's Bureau and the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 92.1
Mr. GOMPERs. For the last calendar year? -
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir; and please send us copies of the bulletins.
Mr. GOMPERs. Yes, sir.
(The statement referred to is as follows:)
Publications of the Children's Bureau received during the calendar year 1914, by titles;
also the number ordered but not received for the same period.
RECEIVED DURING CALENIDAR YEAR 1914.
Edition.
Annual Report Chief Children’s Bureau, 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,500
Annual Report Chief Children’s Bureau, 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2, 500
Laws Relating to Mothers' Pensions in the United States, Denmark, and New -
Zealand--------------------------------------------------------------- 3,000
Same (reprint).---------------------------------------------------------- 1,000
Birth Registration. Monograph No. 1 (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
Same (reprint), third edition---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Birth Registration Test (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - 2,000
Same (reprint)----------------------------------------------------------- 5,000
Prenatal Care (reprint)--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 20,000
Same (reprint), third edition.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25,000
Baby-Saving Campaigns, fourth edition. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2,500
Same (reprint).---------------------------------------------------------- 2,500
New 2.É. Society for the Health of Women and Children. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,000
Same (reprint)----------------------------------------------------------- 5,000
Same (reprint)----------------------------------------------------------- 5,000
Handbook of Federal Statistics of Women and Children, Part I (reprint), sec-
ond edition-----------------------------------------------------------. 2,500
Bulletin. Infant Care. . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20,000
ORDERED DURING CALEN DAR YEAR 1914, BUT NOT DELIVERED.
Infant Mortality—Results of a Field Study in Johnstown, Pa. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,000
Baby-Saving Campaigns (reprint)--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,500
Child-Labor Legislation in the United States............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Publications of the Bureau of Labor Statistics received during the calendar year 1914, by
y titles; also the number ordered but not received for the same period.
RECEIVED DURING CALENDAR YEAR 1914.
- *- Edition.
Bulletin 100. List of Industrial Poisons (reprint). . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1, 000
Bulletin 126. Workman's Compensation Laws of the United States and For-
eign Countries. . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9,000
Same (reprint)----------------------------------------------------------- 1, 500
Bulletin 127. Dangers to Workers from Dusts and Fumes and Methods of
Protection (reprint)---------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Bulletin 130. Wheat and Flour Prices from Farmer to Consumer. . . . . . . . . . . . . 9, 500
Bulletin 134. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Boot and Shoe and Hosiery and r
Knit Goods Industry. . . . . . . ------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9, 500
Bulletin 137. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Building and Repairing of
Railroad Cars.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------ 10,000
Bulletin 138. Retail Prices, 1890 to October, 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10, 500
Bulletin 139. Michigan Copper District Strike. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9, 500
Bulletin 140. Retail Prices, 1890 to December, 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10, 500
Bulletin 141. Lead Poisoning in the Smelting and Refining of Lead. . . . . . . . . . 9,000
Bulletin 142. Administration of Labor Laws...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,000
Bulletin 143. Union Scale of Wages and Hours of Labor, May 15, 1913. . . . . . . . 12,000
Bulletin 144. Industrial Court of the Cloak, Suit, and Skirt Industry in New
York City----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12,000
Bulletin 145. Conciliation, Arbitration, and Sanitation in the Dress and Waist
Industry of New York City. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12,000
Bulletin 146. Wages and Regularity of Employment in the Dress and Waist
Industry in New York City. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10,000
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Edition.
Bulletin 148. Labor Laws of the United States with Decisions of Courts relating -
thereto: t
Part I.--------------------------------------------------------------- 10,000
Part II-------------------------------------------------------------- 10,000
Bulletin 149. Wholesale Prices, 1890 to 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,500
Bulletin 150. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Cotton, Woolen, and Silk In-
dustries, 1907 to 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10,000
Bulletin 151. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Iron and Steel Industry in the
United States, 1907 to 1912 -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Bulletin 152. Decisions of Courts and Opinions Affecting Labor. . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Dulletin 153. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Lumber, Millwork and Furni-
ture Industries, 1907 to 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000
Bulletin 154, Wages and Hours of Labor in the Boot and Shoe and Hosiery and
Knit Goods Industries, 1907 to 1913. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ... 10,000
Bulletin 155. Compensation for Accidents to Employees of the United States. 9, 300
Bulletin 160. Hours, Earnings, and Conditions of Labor of Women in Indiana
Garment Factories and Mercantile Establishments. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,500
Twenty-fifth Annual Report of the Commissioner of Labor (reprint). . . . . . . . . 500
Report of Conditions of Employment in the Iron and Steel Industry, Volume
IV—Accidents (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500
Federal and State Laws Relating to Convict Labor. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - 500
List of Publications of the Bureau of Labor Statistićs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 000
ORDERED DURING CALENDAR YEAR 1914, BUT NOT DELIVERED.
Bulletin 147. Wages and Regularity of Employment in the Cloak, Suit, and Edition
Skirt Industries, with Appendix. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12,000
Bulletin 156. Retail Prices, 1907 to June, 1914....'......................... 11,000
Bulletin 157. Industrial Accidents. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,700
Bulletin 158. Government Aid to Home Owning and Housing of Working
People in European Countries. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
Bulletin 159. Short Unit Courses for Wage Earners and a Factory School
Experiment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9, 500
Bulletin 161. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Clothing and Cigar Industries,
1911 to 1913------------------------------------------------------------ 10, 600
Bulletin 163. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Building, and Repairing of
Steam Railroad Cars.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10, 300
Bulletin 164. Butter Prices from Producer to Consumer. . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10,800
Bulletin 165. Lead Poisoning in the Manufacture of Storage Batteries. . . . . . . . 8,500
Bulletin 166. Labor Legislation of 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,000
Bulletin 153. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Lumber, Millwork, and Furni-
ture Industries, 1907 to 1913 (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,500
Bulletin 146. Wages and Regularity of Employment in the Dress and Waist
Industry in New York City (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500
Bulletin 150. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Cotton, Woolen, and Silk
Industries, 1907 to 1913 (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 500
Bulletin 151. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Iron and Steel Industry in
the United States, 1907 to 1912 (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200
Bulletin 154. Wages and Hours of Labor in the Boot and Shoe and Hosiery
and Knit Goods Industries, 1907 to 1913 (reprint). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400
Bulletin 155. Compensation for Accidents to Employees of the United States :
(reprint)---------------------------------------------------------------- 50%
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MR. HERBERT PUTNAM, LIBRARIAN.
The CHAIRMAN. Your item is, “For the Library of Congress,
including the Copyright Office and the publication of the Catalogue
of Title Entries of the Copyright Office, and binding, rebinding, and
repairing of library books, and for building and grounds, Library of
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 923
Congress, $202,000.” The current appropriation is $200,000. Do
we appropriate $200,000 for this purpose every year?
Mr. PUTNAM. We formerly had $205,000, and it was reduced first to
$202,000 and then to $200,000. Now, Mr. Chairman, we do not want
any misunderstanding about our situation. We are not taking care
of all the work that comes in that we ought to handle each year, and
if it had not been for the fact that this was an unpromising year in
which to ask for an increase, we would have ventured to ask for an
increase for next year more substantial than that. You see $27,000
of this appropriation is used for the publication of the Catalogue of
Title Entries of the Copyright Office, which we are obliged to print,
as that is the legal record of copyright registrations. The average
required for that is $27,000 a year, and that leaves $173,000. That
goes about one-half for printing and one-half for binding, repairs,
and that sort of thing. A large part of the printing, of course, is done
at the main office; $51,000 worth of it was done at the main office
last year, and some of the binding, amounting to about $15,000, was
done there. Otherwise the work is done in the branch bindery and
printing Office.
Mr. GILLETT. What work was left undone 7
Mr. PUTNAM. We put over each year any binding that we can not
care for out of the allotment, and Occasionally we put over publica-
tions that are all ready for issue. -
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean the rebinding of books in the Library 7
Mr. PUTNAM. Not so much rebinding as binding. Rebinding is
not such a heavy matter as with the ordinary municipal lending
library, but this consists largely of binding material that comes to us
in paper covers. It includes most of the official publications of for-
eign governments, with which we are in international exchange.
Nearly all of them come in paper covers, and our continental publi-
cations, or practically all of them, come to us in paper. Then, of
course, all the serials that we bind come to us without binding, and
they have to be put in covers. We are receiving about 15,000
serials a year. This is for the binding of such material as I have
mentioned, and also for the rebinding of books worn out in the course
of use. Last year we were able to bind 31,000 volumes, and there
is still of accumulated material several hundred thousand volumes
that ought to be treated. We bind only so much as we can bind each
year, taking care of the work that is immediately pressing. In the
first place, as I have said, we must use $27,000 for the Catalogue of
Title Entries, and then we have to print the catalogue cards that are
necessary to cover the Output of catalogue cards for the year, which
are sold to other libraries.
Mr. GILLETT. Does that come out of this appropriation ?
Mr. PUTNAM. The stock and press work come out of this allotment,
but the services involved in handling the orders is charged under
“services” carried in an item in the legislative bill. Of course the
stock has to be paid for out of the printing allotment as well as the
press work. Last year we sold $55,000 worth of the cards, which
meant about 5,500,000 cards. Now we, are printing at the rate of
about 50,000 titles a year — .
Mr. GILLETT. How much did they cost 7
Mr. PUTNAM. Do you mean those cards that were sold 7
Mr. GILLETT. Yes, sir.
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Mr. PUTMAN. They cost about one-quarter of a cent each, on an
average, as we figured it out, for which the office charge is 1 cent.
Mr. GILLETT. Then you make some money on them
Mr. PUTNAM. Yes, sir; we make a margin.
Mr. GILLETT. On the printing and everything else?
Mr. PUTNAM. Yes, sir; and we make an allowance of 8 cents per
pound for postage, if we should charge it. Now, we are continuing
along certain publications which last year we had to omit. We had
to omit the printing of a volume that was prepared of the Journals
of the Continental Congress, because we did not have money enough
to take care of it out of the allotment last year. Our publications,
of course, are catalogues, calendars, books, maps, manuscripts, or
whatever it may be
Mr. MONDELL (interposing). In binding these foreign publications
and other material, is the binding pretty generally uniform, or have
you a standard binding that you use pretty largely, or does that de-
pend somewhat on the character of the book?
Mr. PUTNAM. It depends somewhat on the character of the book
and the use that is to be made of it. For instance, a large archi-
tectural work with plates needs to be treated specially. The plates
should be printed on good paper and a good quality of leather should
be used for the binding. On the other hand, an ordinary book
coming from a foreign country would be bound in buckram—a cheap
form of buckram. Of course, it ought to be put in some sort of
cover, because, otherwise, it would not stand on the shelves properly.
We use a cheap material, buckram preferably.
Mr. MONDELL. Is that durable %
Mr. PUTNAM. Buckram is durable enough for that purpose, but
it is not as durable as goat. It is as durable as the inferior grades of
morocco, so-called, which is not really goat, although it is called
morocco. It does not crumble with the heat or from gases in th
atmosphere, as they do.
Mr. MoRDELL. Did you say that with the appropriation you have
this year and with the appropriation you had last year you were able
to take care of all of your current binding 7 -
Mr. PUTNAM. No, sir; we were not able to do so, and we are
getting more and more in arrears each year. You see, we received
last year 125,000 volumes in the form of pamphlets, and we were
able to bind only 31,000. That does not mean, however, that all of
the rest needed binding, but it shows somewhat the discrepancy.
In our division of documents alone we added about 40,000 volumes,
the larger portion of which were official publications of foreign
countries which come to us in paper.
Mr. MonBBLL. Then this increase will not enable you to catch up,
but it will enable you to more nearly keep current 3
Mr. PUTNAM. Yes, sir. I should have asked for $210,000, and
would have done so if this had not been an unfavorable year for
asking any increases. This is only what we have asked for in the
past two or three years. -
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TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915.
PAN AMERICAN UNION, PRINTING AND BINDING.
STATEMENT OF MR. FRANKLIN ADAMS, CHIEF CLERK AND
EDITOR. + .
The CHAIRMAN. The appropriation for printing is $20,000, and you
are asking for $25,000. at is the necessity for the additional
appropriation º
Mr. ADAMS. The demand for the two publications we print at the
Government Printing Office, the English and Spanish monthly bul-
letins, and that appropriation limits us to practically 10,000 copies—
5,000 copies of each edition.
The CHAIRMAN. Of what publication ? g
Mr. ADAMS. Of Our English and Spanish magazine, the Monthly
Bulletin. -
The CHAIRMAN. The monthly magazine :
Mr. ADAMS. Yes, sir. -
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the chief publication you have 7
Mr. ADAMs. Yes.
Mr. SHERLEY. That is the only one you publish
Mr. ADAMs. Yes.
Mr. SHERLEY. How is that bound 7
Mr. ADAMS. In paper, stitched. One hundred copies are sewed.
The CHAIRMAN. What is done with the receipts from the sale of this
publication ?
Mr. ADAMS. We apply the receipts to the purchase of half-tone
cuts and photographs for the illustrations that go into the publica-
tion, and things of that sort that go into the make-up of the maga-
zine. We put it all back into the publication.
The CHAIRMAN. How much do they amount to a year'.
Mr. ADAMs. We have practically around 2,000 subscribers to the
English. Of the 5,000 copies 3,000 are given away and 2,000 are
Sold, and of the Spanish about 2,200 are sold.
The CHAIRMAN. What do your receipts amount to ?
Mr. ADAMs. The receipts from the Spanish edition—we give col-
leges and schools cut rates, of course, and we get about $1 a year
from the schools and colleges and $1.50 a year from the others.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the total amount of receipts?
Mr. ADAMs. $7,096.64.
The CHAIRMAN. How many copies will this additional $5,000 give
you ?
Mr. ADAMS. It will give us about 5,000 more, or 2,500 of each.
The principal cost, of course, is the composition and printing, and
We estimate this would give us almost double our present issue.
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WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 1915.
Light, HEAT, AND POWER, CITY POST OFFICE, WASHINGTON, D. C.
[See p. 879.]
STATEMENT OF MR. M. O. CHANCE, CHIEF CLERK POST OFFICE
DEPARTMENT.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Chance, have you not an appropriation out
of which you can pay for the light, heat, and power furnished to the
city post office?
Mr. CHANCE. No, sir. We have not an appropriation for the
maintenance of the building, except for the labor force necessary to
clean it. I brought up that question some time ago with the Public
Printer, and I told him it was my understanding that he was to
furnish the light and heat out of some appropriation of his, and, if
necessary, charge it against us; that otherwise you would just make
an appropriation for us and we would have to transfer it to him.
We wrote a letter at that time, and I came up and saw the clerk of
the committee, Mr. Courts, and my understanding then was that
the Printing Office would take care of that. -
The CHAIRMAN. What light and heat you use in the city post office
ought not to be charged to printing 7
Mr. CHANCE. No, sir; I do not see any excuse for making that a
charge against printing. The city post office Occupies, we will say,
one-third of that building and the Post Office Department proper
occupies the other two-thirds. The Public Printer can furnish the
figures on which to base an estimate of the cost to light and heat
that building and furnish the necessary power, and then it could be
charged against the Post Office Department. If you make the
appropriation to us we will just have to transfer it to him as he
renders his bills, which would make extra work, bookkeeping, etc. .
We can do it all right.
The CHAIRMAN. What part of that building does the Post Office
Department proper occupy
Mr. CHANGE. The Post Office Department proper occupies the
second and third floors and a large portion of the basement.
The CHAIRMAN. What offices of the Post Office Department'.
Mr. CHANCE. The Postal Savings Bureau of the Third Assistant's
office is located there, the Railway Mail Service Division for this sec-
tion of the country is also there, the Stamp Division of the Third
Assistant's office, and the Supply Division of the Fourth Assistant's
office. Formerly they were in a rented building—what is known as
the annex, on First and K Streets. That building was leased by the
department about 7 years ago for a period of 10 years, author-
ized by Congress. Necessarily we have to continue paying the rent
under that lease for 2 years from this coming July. After that
time the rental will be cut off, of course.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you paying rent for a building which is not
occupied ?
Mr. CHANCE. We are occupying it with the mail-bag and lock-
repair shops. We do not really need as much room as we have. The
lease was drawn in such a way that the department could not termi-
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mate it until the time expired. In the new city post office we have
steam, electric, and power meters. The Public Printer has the fig-
ures, of course. I really do not know actually what it is costing up
to date. The Public Printer does not have any men over there in
our building at all; we furnish all the help, such as the cleaners,
electricians, steam fitters, etc.
Mr. MoRDELL. He simply furnishes straight power and heat':
Mr. CHANCE. Yes, sir. •
The CHAIRMAN. For July, August, September, October, and No-
vember the cost amounted to $4,994.89, and it is estimated that the
yearly cost will be between $20,000 and $25,000.
Mr. CHANCE. I issued instructions from the beginning to keep the
bills down to the lowest point possible. We have men watching the
light, power, etc., and they shut it off whenever it can be done.
Mr. GILLETT. Is the building heated direct from the Government
Printing Office? - -
Mr. CHANCE. Yes, sir. They put in extra machinery to heat and
light the building. •
Mr. GILLETT. Underground transmission?
Mr. CHANCE. There is a tunnel which runs from the Government
Printing Office to the Post Office Building. -

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 1915.
CAPITOL BUILDING AND GEOUNDS.
STATEMENT OF MR. ELLIOTT WOODS, SUPERINTENDENT,
GENERAL REPAIRS.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Woods, the first item in which you are inter-
ested is, “Capitol Building: For work at Capitol and for general
repairs thereof,” etc., and the appropriation is $30,000, and your
estimate is $30,000 %
Mr. WooDs. Yes, sir. That is the sum required for the annual
upkeep and general repairs to the building. -
The CHAIRMAN. What shape is the building in .
Mr. WooDs. The building is in only fair shape. There is much
work which should be done, and next year I am going to ask for an
increased ºppropriation for the purpose of making some permanent
repairs. Otherwise the building is kept in pretty good shape. There
is a lot of pointing which should be done on the exterior of the build-
ing and considerable painting which should be done in the corridors.
That ought to be done within the next two years, at least. The long
sessions of Congress have put the corridors in pretty bad shape. In
a legislative building the people lean against the walls and dirty them
and all we can do is to wash them down, and the paint has been
washed nearly off the walls.
STEPS ON EAST FRONT.
The CHAIRMAN. Did we not appropriate money for the steps on
the east front of the building 3 -
Mr. Woods. Yes, sir; you did.
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The CHAIRMAN. Why have they not been reconstructed?
Mr. Woods. I am waiting until spring. I wanted to get the Plaza
finished.
Mr. Mond ELL. Will not the Plaza be cut up when you put the new
steps in 7 * . º
§. WooDs. No, sir; not at all. They will put down boards. If I
had attempted to remove the steps at that time it would have inter-
fered with the Plaza work and would have delayed it.
The CHAIRMAN. We appropriated the money for the steps?
Mr. WooDs. Yes, sir; the steps have been provided for.
The CHAIRMAN. They are in very bad shape }
Mr. WooDs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What are you going to put there
Mr. WooDs. Do you mean what kind of stone Ž
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. WooDs. We have not determined upon that—either marble or
light granite. -
The CHAIRMAN. Does not granite wear smoother than marble %
Mr. WooDs. It will in time, but it lasts longer.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the matter with cement; would not that
look well ?
Mr. WooDs. I do not think that would look well for this building.
Persons could tell that the steps were made of cement, and I do not
think it would very well comport with the building. Lately I have
had brought to my attention a buff stone which is exceedingly flinty
in texture, something on the order of the stone used in the Pennsyl-
vania Station in New York, only lighter in color. It seems to have
all the characteristics of granite except the wearing characteristic;
it does not seem to wear.
Mr. MondELL. It is a limestone'
Mr. WOODs. I do not know what the character is.
Mr. SHERLEY. What is the color of it -
Mr. WooDs. A very light buff. The question is whether that stone
could be secured in a light enough tone.
Mr. SHERLEY. What is the objection to marble %
Mr. WooDs. There is no objection to marble.
Mr. MONDELL. Marble always looks dirty and dingy unless you
keep it clean.
Mir. SHERLEY. Certainly.
Mr. WooDs. Half of the time that makes the marble slippery.
Mr. MonTELL. Why would not a light granite be the best ? Toes
it cost more than marble %
Mr. WooDs. It would not cost a great deal more; it would cost a
little more. - -
Mr. SHERLEY. Is there any limestone hard enough
Mr. WooDs. I think I would not want to trust limestone there for
any great length of time; it is too soft.
Mr. Mio NDELL. Some of the limestones are tremendously hard.
STEPS ON WEST APPROACH.
The CHAIRMAN. After those steps have been finished, do you not
think that the steps on the west front should be fixed 3
Mr. WOODs. By all means; yes, sir.
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The CHAIRMAN. A great many visitors who come to Washington
walk up those steps, and they are in very bad condition. They are
slate 7 - -
Mr. WOODs. No, sir; they are what is called bluestone. It is a
slate formation.
The CHAIRMAN. There are large pieces broken out of the steps ?
Mr. WoODs. Yes, sir; it breaks up just like slate.
The CHAIRMAN. Has an estimate ever been prepared for that work?
Mr. WooDs. Yes, sir; the estimate for the addition to the Capitol
contained a minor estimate for those steps. **.
The CHAIRMAN. The steps on the west front ? -
Mr. Woods. Yes, sir. think that was figured at about $40,000
to $45,000.
STATUARY FOR PEDIMENT TO HOUSE WING.
Mr. GILLETT. When are the new figures going to be ready for the
House front ? -
Mr. WOODs. The sculptor thinks he will be ready to put those up
about next November. -
Mr. GILLETT. Not until then
Mr. WOODs. No, sir. They are being cut in marble now.
The CHAIRMAN. You have submitted an estimate for a pediment
for the House wing of the Capitol'ſ
M. WOODs. I sent the Speaker of the House a letter on that
subject.
The CHAIRMAN. We have a copy of that letter, which is as follows:
OFFICE of SUPERINTENDENT,
UNITED STATES CAPITOL BUILDING AND GROUNDs,
Washington, D. C., January 5, 1915.
Hon. CHAMP CLARK,
Speaker of the House of Representatives,
Chairman of the Commission for Completing the
Pediment of the House Wing of the United States Capitol. - -
SIR: By an act of Congress approved April 16, 1908, entitled “An act for com-
pleting the pediment of the House wing of the Capitol,” it is provided—
That the expenditure of $75,000 or as much thereof as may be necessary be, and
the same is hereby, authorized for the purpose of completing the pediment of the House
wing of the 'Capitol by placing Suitable statuary thereon, said expenditure to be
made under the direction of the Speaker of the House, the Joint Committee on the
Library, and the Superintendent of the Capitol. r
It is also provided by the Sundry civil act approved May 27, 1908, making appropria-
tions for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1909, as follows:
Toward procuring statuary for the pediment of the House wing of the Capitol,
to be expended as provided by law, including not exceeding $5,000 for procuring a
Suitable design, $15,000. -
Under the provisions of the act of Congress approved April 16, 1908, the commission
therein indicated, and consisting of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the
Joint Committee on the Library, and the Superintendent of the Capitol, did, on the
16th day of February, 1909, enter into a written contract with Paul Wayland Bartlett,
to execute and install a marble sculptured group for the Ornamentation of the pediment
of the Eſouse wing of the Capitol in accordance with the purposes of the act for com-
pleting the pedimet of the House wing of the Capitol.
The work under said contract having progressed to such an extent, that it is the belief
and purpose of the sculptor, Mr. Bartlett, to complete the contract by the erection and
installation of the completed sculptured decoration of Said pediment during the month
of November, 1915. I respectfully suggest that such action may be taken as will secure
during the present session of Congress an appropriation of $60,000, the sum required
to complete the work as authorized and to pay the balance due on contract, and
flººr that the appropriation be made in such a manner as to be immediately avail-
3,016.
ELLIOTT Woods,
Superintendent United States Capitol Building and
Grownds and a Member of the Commission.
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The CHAIRMAN. That is the balance under the authorization ?
Mr. WOODs. Yes, sir.
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CLEANING AND REPAIRING WORKS OF ART.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, “For continuing the work of
cleaning and repairing works of art in the Capitol, including repairs
to frames, under the direction of the Joint Committee on the
Library,” $1,500 :
Mr. WOODs. That is the regular annual appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Have you had any acts of vandalism during the
past year }
Mr. WooDs. I think not during the last year. We have repaired
one or two large paintings. The Lincoln picture over the stairway
next to the hall was repaired and rebacked. It was in very bad
shape. -
. . #. CHAIRMAN. That work is approved by the Joint Committee on
the Library 7
Mr. Woods. Yes, sir.
CARE AND IMPROVEMENT OF CAPITOL GROUNDS.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is: “Capitol Grounds: For the care
and improvement of the grounds surrounding the Capitol, Senate and
House Office Buildings, pay of one clerk, mechanics, gardeners,
fertilizers, repairs to pavements, walks, and roadways,” $30,000.
This takes care of all of the grounds around the building 7
Mr. WOODs. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you doing anything with the additional land
required in connection with the Capitol Grounds?
Mr. WooDs. We cleaned up one square. That is all we could do
up until the present time. On the other square the buildings are
being removed.
Mr. SHERLEY. I notice on one square a house which is evidently
some Government office with a flag flying on it. -
Mr. WooDs. That is Truck House .A. That belongs to the Dis-
trict. They have just purchased a new site on New Jersey Avenue
for that house, Mr. Sherley. That building will be torn down within
a year or so. Until that house is removed we can not make a per-
manent treatment of the Square on account of the grades, and so we
have just cleaned it up in a temporary manner and sowed some rye
in it, and expect to have it a little green during the spring and sum-
mer. We will put some clover in there in the summer. I believe
four or five other pieces of property have been acquired by this new
commission. I received a letter this morning from the Department
of the Interior stating that such was the case and that as the prop-
erties were in rather bad shape, instead of renting them they would
turn them over to me for my future use. “My future use” means
to tear the buildings down. We will proceed with that work as fast
as the properties are turned over to us.
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PAVING AND RESURFACING PLAZA. .
The CHAIRMAN. I have received the following letter from you:
OFFICE of SUPERINTENDENT,
UNITED STATES CAPITOL BUILDING AND GROUNDs,
- Washington, D. C., December 18, 1914.
Hon. JoHN J. FITZGERALD, -
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
House of Representatives.
SIR: Desiring to continue the work of paving and resurfacing of the Plaza east of the
Capitol Building and roadways and walks connected and adjacent thereto, I beg to
raquest that a further appropriation of $60,000 be made. The additional work includes
not only the resurfacing, but repairs to curbing, gutters, sewerage, and sidewalks
disturbed by the improvements. It also involves the laying of new pavement in the
recess between the House and Senate wings of the Capitol, the two roadways leading
out through the southeast section of the grounds, the East Capitol Street entrance to
the grounds, the two roadways in the northeast section of the grounds and the north
roadway leading from the Plaza down the hill to First Street.
I submit herewith a detailed statement of the estimates for this work.
Very respectfully,
- ELLIOTT WooDs,
Superintendent United States Capitol Building and Grounds.
Approximate estimate of work to be done, not including water supply system or sewerage,
in connection with resurfacing Plaza east of the United States Capitol Building.
Southeast section of grounds, approximately 3,320 linear feet of curbing,
5,000 square yards of paving--------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $11,600.00
Northeast section of grounds, approximately 3,320 linear feet of curbing,
5,000 square yards of paving. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11,600.00
East Capitol Street entrance, approximately 1,000 linear feet of curbing,
2,980 Square yards of paving. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7, 377.00
Northwest section of grounds, approximately 2,150 linear feet of curbing,
5,900 square yards of paving. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17,425.00
New curbing and walks around lawns next to new asphalt paving, approxi-
mately 1,060 linear feet curbing, 3,350 square yards cement walks. -- . . . ... 6,403.00
Cement walk around flower stands, approximately 1,150 square yards. . . . 1, 725.00
Cement walks in recesses in east front of Capitol Building, approximately
2,100 square yards--------------------------------------------------- 3, 150.00
Cement walk platform, main entrance United States Capitol Building,
approximately 150 square yards. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * 225. 00
Cement walk at South B Street, replacing flagstone walk, approximately
330 square yards. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 495. 00
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------------- 60,000.00
Wººt portion of this work came under the appropriation that we
made 3
Mr. WooDs. All that portion from the building out to the large
plant cases east of the building and reaching practically to the cir-
cular lawns at the east front. We got along very well with the
$50,000. We practically covered the whole of the Plaza except the
roadway leading into B Street north, the north roadway in the
Capitol Grounds leading from the Plaza to the foot of the hill, which
is in fearful shape.
The CHAIRMAN. Will this amount complete everything?
Mr. WooDs. Yes, sir; it will complete everything except the south
roadway, which I did not include.
Mr. GILLETT. That is in good condition, is it not ?
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Mr. WOODS. Yes, sir; except two or three places which can be
repaired. One is due to a ditch which was put through the grounds.
I think we can cover that portion of the south roadway which has
to be repaird by this appropriation.
Mr. GILLETT. I have not noticed that the north roadway was in
bad condition; I thought it was in good condition.
Mr. WooDs. Mr. Gillette, the next time you go down the north
roadway notice it. We have tried to keep it in shape by filling in
those holes, but the asphalt is practically worn off the base.
Another thing in that connection, we managed to do with the
$50,000 a great deal more than I thought we could. We have put
in new brick gutters, edging all the new work, except at the east
side. We did not estimate for that at first, but I ascertained from
the experience of the District that the asphalt roadway had a habit
of leaving the curb, and by placing vitrified brick next to the curb
it necessitate less repairs to be made—I assume that the water is what
destroys the asphalt next to the gutter—and so we put in new gutters
and a lot of new curb. -
Mr. SHERLEY. What did that cost 7
Mr. Woods. $2.16, covering the vitrified brick and everything.
I understand that the District figures on that class of work at about
$2.35 per yard, and we put in at least 1,000 surface yards of base
under this Plaza. I was astounded whºn I ran into the conditions
that existed in some parts of it. Some of it, that had been in for
many years, had a bituminous base that did not amount to any-
thing, and some of it was based with a sort of clay mixture. They
used a certain amount of cement, rolled it down bard, and then put
the asphalt down on that. It would never have stood, and I re-
newed the base wherever it was necessary.
Mr. MONDELL. I notice that you took up the granite curbing
around the little grass plats in front here, and put down new curbing.
Mr. WooDs. We put down some new curbing, but a lot of it was.
ut back after being redressed. We put in some new curbing at
rst, while getting a start on it, and then we got to dressing the
stone.entirely on the ground.
Mr. MoRDELL. You did not renew it entirely, then 7
Mr. WOODs. No, sir; we redressed most of it.
Mr. MoRDELL. But you took it out 7
Mr. Woods. Yes, sir; we did that for the reason, in the first place,
that that curbing, which was not set in a modern manner, had a habit
of leaning over in one direction or the other. Now, we put that curb-
ing down on a concrete base, -
Mr. MoWDELL. I notice that in one place you took curbing of con-
siderable depth out and put in curbing that was apparently just set
on top. It looks as though it is not as good a job as the old one.
Mr. WooDs. But it will prove to be better in the long run, because
we cut the curbing of one size and set it on a square base. In using
that rough stone you will find that sometimes a stone does not bury
itself in the earth to the same extent as the stone next to it, and the
weather will settle that curbing out of line. That was one reason for
taking it out, and another reason was that the ground to the east of
the building had a line of grades that prevented the rain water from
flowing off quickly. Therefore we entirely remodeled the grade lines,
so that now we have a first-class drainage on the surface. I have
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noticed that during the last rains we have had. We do not now have
any large puddles of water standing there.
Mr. MonBELL. In the main, you simply redressed that curbing 7
Mr. WOODS. In the main, yes, sir; and reset it.
Mr. MONDELL. And you cut it down
Mr. WOODS (interposing). To a definite size.
May I ask that this item, if it is allowed, be made immediately
available, so that we can proceed with the work in the spring. '
REAPPROPRIATION FOR RESURFACING TERRACE.
The CHAIRMAN. You ask that the unexpended balance of the ap-
propriation of $83,500, made in the sundry civil appropriation act
approved June 23, 1913, for resurfacing the terraces of the Capitol
with waterproofing material and all work and material incident thereto
be reappropriated and continued available during the fiscal year—
1915 or 1916 % ... • 3.
Mr. WOODS. 1916. -
The CHAIRMAN. What have you done here 2 Have you ever been
able to get a satisfactory material yet?
Mr. WOODS. Apparently we have; that is, so far.
The CHAIRMAN. How much have you spent º -
Mr. WOODs. We have spent about $15,000 on that, but that has
been devoted to the preparation of plans and getting things in shape
and then surfacing quite an area over the dynamo room. Fortu-
nately, we got that absolutely tight. That was the most dangerous
place on the terrace. That work, due to certain structural conditions,
will probably be carried over into the next fiscal year. We can not
proceed with it as rapidly as I thought we could.
EXTENSION OF CAPITOL GROUNDs, REMOVAL OF BUILDINGS, GRADING,
ETC. º - - - -
The CHAIRMAN. Then you ask that the unexpended balance of the
appropriation of $35,000 made in the general deficiency º;
act approved March 4, 1913, for expenses of removal of the buildings
or other structures upon the land acquired for the enlargement of the
Capitol Grounds, etc., be reappropriated and continued available
during the next fiscal year. ow much have you spent out of that ?
Mr. Woods. About $11,000.
, FIRE ENGINE HOUSE AND SENATE STABLES.
The CHAIRMAN. For repairs and improvements to steam fire engine
house and Senate stables and repairs to and paving of floors and court-
yards of same, etc., you estimate $1,500.
Mr. WOODs. That is a regular annual appropriation.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that the fire house you were talking about a
while ago? e -
Mr. WooDs. No, sir; that is not the one. This refers to No. 3
Engine House, which is located just northwest of the Senate Office
Building, on the square bounded by Delaware Avenue and C Street.
The Government has been taking care of that house for as long as 40
years, I guess. f -
934 sun DRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. Mon DELL. How did they come to put two engine houses so
close together down here 7 - -
Mr. WoODs. One is a truck house, and that is the only truck house
over here. z
Mr. MoRDELL. That is the only truck company ?
Mr. WooDs. Yes, sir; that is about the only truck company they
have for the northeast section.
COLUMBIA HOSPITAL FOR WOMEN, EQUIPMENT AND FURNISHING.
The CHAIRMAN. The next item is contained in House Document
No. 1474, as follows: *
Building, Columbia Hospital for Women and Lying-in Asylum—
For special equipment and furnishing to complete Columbia Hospital
for Women and Lying-in Asylum, including labor and material and
the necessary incidental expenses connected therewith (submitted). . . . . $75, 725
Special equipment, furnishings, etc.:
Kitchen equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3, 200
Laundry-------------------------------------------------------- 5, 200
Refrigerators---------------------------------------------------- 4,000
Sterilizing equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,650
Vacuum-cleaning equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000
Incinerators. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - '• - - - - - - - - - - 425
Morgue box----------------------------------------------------- 500
Lighting fixtures------------------------------------------------ 2,500
Metal furniture, hospital type------------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16, 500
Wood furniture, rugs and curtains.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,000
Shades. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,000
Screens. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3, 250
Dressers and cases.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,000
Painting------------------------------------------------------- 8,000
Linen and blankets. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4, 500
China, glass, silver, and kitchen utensils. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
Bathroom equipment----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : - - - - - 1,000
Sundry hospital supplies-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
Total.-------------------------------------------------------- 75, 725
How many beds will that provideº - -
Mr. WooDs. One hundred and thirty-four, and that is more than
was originally intended, but it was found to be necessary. I think we
are fortunate in being able to be sure to get a sufficient number of
beds, for the sake of the hospital, and to get it out of the construction
appropriation of $300,000 that you provided. Of course this estimate
is for the special equipment of the hospital, not provided for in the
original estimate. -
The CHAIRMAN. How did you reach those figures? - -
Mr. WooDs. Each one of those items has been ascertained by
getting actual quotations on the material required for the hospital,
and the figures, within probably $50 in each case, are what the actual
bids will be. There is only one figure there that was not obtained in
that way and that is the item for the bathroom equipment. That
comprises a lot of little things that hospitals have, and I roughly
estimated that in conjunction with the architect and engineer.
The CHAIRMAN. When will the building be finished
Mr. Woods. We expect to have it open the 1st of July. We have
been pushing it, and we are plastering in the building now. It has
been a very interesting work for me, because it was something entirely .
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new. I never had to deal with hospital work before. When I paid
a visit home this last August I found in Indianapolis a hospital which
was run by the Sisters of St. Vincent which had just been finished and
in operation about a year. It was a great education to inspect that
hospital, because it gave me a fixed idea of what ought to be done in
this case. Then, besides, we have the judgment and advice of one
of the best hospital architects in the country, Mr. Stevens, of Boston,
who has built over 100 hospitals. I think we have covered the ground
as economically and thoroughly as possible. I have here a three-page
statement containing a description of the new Columbia Hospital
Building. -
The CHAIRMAN. We would like to have it in the record.
(The statement referred to is as follows:) -
DESCRIPTION OF THE NEW COLUMBIA HOSPITAL BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D. c.
General.—The hospital consists of a five-story fireproof building, 225 feet long and
106 feet deep, in extreme dimensions. The building is 86 feet high at the center of
the main portion and 108 feet high to the tops of the towers. It contains in all 134
beds. The hospital contains 980,000 cubic feet. s
Situation.—The hospital and its dependencies occupy nearly the whole block
between L and M, Twenty-fourth and Twenty-fifth Streets. The new building is
situated in the center of the L Street side, facing South. The grade of the lot at
this point is about 12 feet above the street level.
Administration.—The Superintendent’s office, information desk, and board rooms
are centrally located on the first floor near the main entrance.
Wards.-There are eight wards each containing eight beds, situated on the first
and Second floors. The wards are located in projecting Y-shaped wings, arranged
to secure the maximum ventilation and sunlight. The nurse's lookout room is
arranged between each pair of wards so that she can see all of the beds in the ward
without being in the ward itself. Large porches have been provided for all of the
wards.
Private rooms.—Thirty private rooms have been provided, all located on the third
floor. These rooms are so arranged that they can be thrown into suites and can be
provided with a bathroom or not, as desired. Four large porches are provided for
the use of the private patients. - - - -
Semiprivate rooms.-On each ward floor are several rooms intended to accommodate
from two to four beds. These are intended for patients who are able to pay for their
treatment, but can not afford the accommodation of a private room. There are six
of these rooms, accommodating 14 beds in all. - .
Service and utility rooms.--Appropriate utility rooms, toilet rooms, bathrooms, and
Serving rooms have been provided in each wing, so located as to simplify the service
to the various wards and private rooms as much as possible. -
Nurseries.—Three nurseries have been provided, one on each ward floor and one
on the private room floor. These rooms are large, airy, and well lighted, and an
adjoining room is provided with every facility for bathing and caring for the babies.
Waiting women.—Two rooms, accommodating four beds each, are provided for
waiting women. These are located on the first and second floors. .
Living quarters.--A bedroom, living room, and bath have been provided on the
Second floor for the superintendent of the hospital, and similar quarters on the third
floor for the superintendent of nurses. Five bedrooms, a bath, and a living room
are provided to accommodate the internes. Twelve servants’ rooms are provided in
the basement and two on the first floor, where they are accessible in case of emer-
gency. The chief engineer's quarters are in the basement. A bedroom and bath
are provided for the housekeeper on the fifth floor. º
Operating department.—The operating department occupies about one-half of the
fourth floor. It is composed of two operating rooms, lighted by very large windows
facing the north, so as to provide an even, diffused light without shadows. A steril-
izing room, anaesthetizing room, surgeons' and nurses’ wash rooms, and rooms for the
Storage of instruments and supplies are situated conveniently near the operating
rooms. Three recovery rooms, to accommodate nine beds in all, are located near by.
Delivery department.—The delivery department consists of three delivery rooms
and a first-stage room, and occupies the other half of the fourth floor. This depart-
ment is also provided with sterilizing rooms, surgeons' and nurses' wash rooms, etc.
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Laboratories.--Two laboratories are located on the fourth floor adjacent to the
operating and delivery departments. k • * -
Preparation and service of food.—The main kitchen and the diet kitchen, with all
their storerooms, have been placed on the top or fifth floor to avoid odors and petty
thieving. The dining rooms for convalescent patients, staff, and servants are also
on this floor. These rooms are unusually well lighted and ventilated. A freight
elevator and numerous electric dumb-waiters provide for quick and economical trans-
portation of supplies and food. r
Mechanical equipment.--The boiler rooms, laundry, refrigeration plant, and disin-
fecting rooms are located in the basement. - - *
Dispensary.—The dispensary is situated in a wing of the basement. A separate
entrance is provided so that out-patients may be treated without entering the portion
of the hospital intended for the reception of regular patients. The dispensary contains
two waiting rooms, two consultation rooms, a pharmacy, and the necessary toilets, etc.
PUBLIC BTUILDINGS.
SPECIAL REPORT of suPERVISING ARCHITECT-CosT OF SITE, CONSTRUCTION, JANITOR
SERVICE, HEAT, LIGHT, WATER, ETC., OF $50,000 CLAss BUILDINGs.
[See p. 143.]
WASHINGTON, January 8, 1915.
Hon. JoHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
House of Representatives. -
SIR: In accordance with your request, made during the hearings on the portion of
the sundry civil bill which relatés to the estimates submitted on account of the work
of the Office of the Supervising Architect, I inclose a photostatic copy of four pages
of the manuscript of a special report on the public building work, which has been
prepared by the Supervising Architect for consideration of the Secretary of the
Treasury. -
The inclosure referred to above contains actual figures regarding the cost of site,
cost of construction, cost of equipment, cost of janitor service, heat, light, water,
miscellaneous supplies, repairs, etc., for five buildings in the so-called $50,000 class
which have been recently completed.
Respectfully,
BYRON R. NEWTON,
Acting Secretary.
After we have erected a building the carrying charges consist in the following:
Interest on the total original investment in site, building, and initial equipment at,
Say, 3 per cent; the annual cost of the janitor service; the annual cost of heat, light,
water, and miscellaneous supplies; the cost of the annual repairs; an allowance for
depreciation in the building; an allowance for depreciation in the initial equip-
ment; and the cost of managing the property (our own office, field inspection, and
overhead charges). *.
COST OF THE INITIAL EQUIPMENT AND COST OF MAINTENANCE IN FIVE SMALL BUILDINGs.
We are now eregting many buildings costing each about $50,000 on sites which
average $7,500 in cost. The following table contains a list of five buildings of this
class, selected at random: -
Aiken, S. C., post office; completed in 1912; cost $48,380.48; cubic contents, 172,320 cubic
feet; cost per cubic foot, $0.281; cost of site, $9,527.38.
Cost of initial equipment (purchased in 1912): . -
Furnishings. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2, 233. 46
Lighting fixtures. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 575, 75
Safes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------------- 579. 00
Carpets. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31. 41
Total. . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,419.62
E--->
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 937
Cost of maintenance, fiscal year 1914:
Janitor service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - $960.00
Light.----------------------------------------------------------- 191. 23
Heat. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 300. 85
Water. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 198. 90
Miscellaneous supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76. 35
Ice------------------------------------------------------------- 50.00
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1,777. 33
Cleveland, Tenn., post office; completed in 1911; cost, $47,985.46; cubic contents, 162,76
- cubic feet; cost per cubic foot, $0.294; cost of site, $4,528.16. * .
Cost of initial equipment (purchased in 1912):
Furnishings. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,308. 21
Lighting fixtures. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 612. 45
Safes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 603. 00
Carpets. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 29. 15
Total.---------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3, 552. 81
Cost of maintenance, fiscal year 1914:
Janitor service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 960. 00
Light------------------------------------------------------------ 122. 18
Heat. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 105. 00
Water- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * = = • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * 46. 54
Miscellaneous supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 34.35
Ice. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------ --- 18. 70
Removing ashes and rubbish. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4. 75
Washing towels. . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6. 60
Total.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 298. 12
Malone. N. Y., post office; completed in 1912; cost, $49,448.82; cubic comtents, 145,140
- cubic feet; cost per cubic foot, $0.341; cost of site, $9,967.10.
Cost of initial equipment (purchased in 1912): -
Furnishings.------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2, 164. 93
Lighting fixtures. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... 725. 00
Safes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 829. 11
Carpets. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 69. 28
Total.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3, 788. 32
Cost of maintenance, fiscal year 1914: -
Janitor service-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 960. 00
Light.----------------------------------------------------------- 251. 55
Heat.------------------------------------------------------------ 422. 00
Water. . . . . . • * * * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - • - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 80.00
Miscellaneous supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 97.47
Ce- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12.00
"Remóving ashes and rubbish. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54. 90
Washing towels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * 11. 77
Total.---------------------- . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1,889. 69
Rochester, Minn., post office; completed in 1912; cost, $49,988.60; cubic contents, 1 61,439
cubic feet: cost per cubic foot, $0.309: cost of site, $7,965.54. -
Furnishings.---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,124.36
Lighting fixtures. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 728. 05
affes------------------------------------------------------------ 548. 00
Carpets.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31. 77
938 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Janitor service-------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $960. 00
Light------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 231: 57
Heat. ---. --------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 435. 50
Water............ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I32. II
Miscellaneous supplies. . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 74.69
Removing ashes and rubbish. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9.75
Washing towels------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32.96
Total.------------------------------- ** * * * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1, 876. 58
San Marcos, Tex., post office; completed in 1912; cost, $49,677.99; cubic contents, 164,160
cubic feet; cost per cubic foot, $0.303; cost of site, $6,530.66.
Cost of initial equipment (purchased in 1912):
Furnishings. ---------------------------------------------------- $1,883. 59
Lighting fixtures------------------------------------------------- 485. 35
Safes.----------------------------------------------------------- 484. 50
Carpets. ------------ --------------------------------------------- 29.04
Total.----------------------------------------------------------- 2,882.48
Cost of maintenance, fiscal year 1914:
Janitor Service---------------------------------------------------- 960. 00
Light------------------------------------------------------------ 119.43
Heat------------------------------------------------------------- 216. 64
Water------------------------------------------------------------ 141. 13
Miscellaneous supplies.-------------. . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * ~ * 157. 03
Ice------------------------------------------------------------- 30.00
Removing ashes and rubbish. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - • * ~ * ~ * 13. 00
Washing towels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3.24
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1,640.47
Average cost of building--------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49,086. 27
Average cost of site---------------------------------------------------- 7,703. 77
Average cost of initial equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------- 3, 415. 08
Average cost of maintenance for the fiscal year 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,696. 44
Each of the five buildings listed in the preceding table was completed within the
last three years. The cost of the initial equipment is a known quantity. The cost of
the annual maintenance may fluctuate, but the average for five buildings of about the
same size for one year should be as useful as the average of one building for five years.
Therefore, the average cost of the initial equipment and the average cost of mainten-
ance, as shown by these five buildings, may be used as a basis.
I allow a depreciation of 5 per cent on the building. It is a safe assumption that
each of these small buildings will have outgrown its usefulness in 20 years, and, at
the expiration of that time will cease to have any value. They will be sold for what-
ever the site will bring in, demolished to allow for the erection of larger buildings or
so extensively altered as to entail virtually as great an expenditure as the erection of
new buildings. I also allow a depreciation of 5 per cent on the initial equipment.
Each year we repair, partially renew or add to the original equipment. This there-
fore is essentially a maintenance charge. While certain portions of the initial equip-
ment may last more than 20 years—which is not probable—the entire initial cost will
undoubtedly be duplicated during that time in repairs, renewals, and additional
equipment. - .
sing the constants and averages given in the preceding, the average carrying charges
for each of these five buildings may be stated as follows:
Average cost of site. ---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $7,500
Average cost of building. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49,000
Average cost of initial equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,400
Original investment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59,900
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Interest on total investment, at 3 per cent........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,797
Annual maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1, 700
Annual repairs. . . .:::-----------------------------------------------. ... . . 350
Depreciation on building, at 5 per cent-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,450
Depreciation on equipment, at 5 per cent-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 170
Total annual carrying charge----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6, 467
The total annual carrying charge is about 10% per cent of the total original invest-
ment. I include nothing for the cost of managing the property. Our costs for that
would be balanced by the administrative costs in the Post Office Department if the
latter undertook the management, on a rental basis, of the erection of buildings for its
own use in certain of the towns and smaller cities in which this department is now
erecting buildings with the public funds.
I was informed by the postmaster at Pittsburgh, Pa., that the annual rent of $3,500
for the branch station at Wilkinsburg was considered high by the Post Office Depart-
ment. If that is the case, it would appear that the Post Office Department should be
able to have erected for its use buildings as well adapted to its needs as the one at
Wilkinsburg for an annual rental of but little, if any, more than one-half the carrying
charge of the buildings we are erecting at an approximate cost of $50,000 each.
WASHINGTON, January 9, 1915.
Mr. JAMES C. Courts, - -
Clerk Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives.
DEAR MR. CourTs: In connection with the statement sent the chairman of your
committee about the carrying charges of five small post offices, this statement consist-
ing of photostatic copies of several pages from my special report on the public build-
ing work, it may interest you to know the gross postal receipts in each of these five
laces for the fiscal years 1913 and 1914. I inclose a statement of these receipts.
he gross postal receipts are made up of moneys received from the sale of Stamps,
stamped paper, condemned safes, waste paper, etc. They do not include either
money-order receipts or postal-savings receipts.
Very truly, yours,
O. WENDEROTH, Supervising Architect.
Gross postal receipts.
Fiscal year Fiscal year
1913. 1914.
Aiken, S. C. ------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $12,410. 53 $13,337.50
Cleveland, Tenn.-------..................................................... #6,017.84 17,058. 36
Malone, N. Y. -------------------------------------------------------------- 24, 230.96 25,470. 55
Rochester, Minn........................ ------------------------------------ 38,559.00 46,384.78.
San Marcos, Tex-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16, S53.86 18,077. 60.
ENGRAVING AND PRINTING.
BUREAU of ENGRAVING AND PRINTING,
. January 26, 1915.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD, . t &
Chairman Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives.
SIR: In reply to your letter of the 25th instant, requesting me to state under each
of the three heads of appropriation for the bureau for 1916 to execute in that year
74,000,000 sheets of United States notes and certificates, 13,500,000 sheets of national-
bank notes and Federal reserve currency, 90,000,000 sheets of internal-revenue stamps,
8,000,000 sheets of emergency revenue stamps, 200,000 sheets of customs stamps, and
1,600,500 sheets of checks, drafts, and miscellaneous work, I have the honor to state
that the amounts for the above quantities and various classes of work are $1,432,374
for compensation of employees, $1,561,421 for plate printing, and $771,326 for mate-
rials and miscellaneous expenses. This estimate includes $21,925 under the head of
compensation of employees, and $10,132 under the head of materials and miscella-
neous expenses, for furnishing in the fiscal year 1916 4,225,000 sheets of opium orders
and Special-tax stamps required under the act of December 17, 1914. The item of
compensation also includes $8,400 for salaries of the office of the custodian of dies,
rolls, and plates, which has been omitted from the estimates of the Chief of Division
of Loans and Currency. -
\
940 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
The estimate for materials and miscellaneous expenses includes the following items:
11 additional new power plate-printing presses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $48,070
The purchase of internal-revenue paper by this bureau instead of by the 3.
Bureau of Internal Revenue, as shown in the Book of Estimates. . . . . . . . . . . 93, 295
The purchase of paper for the emergency revenue (war tax) stamps required
under the act of Oct. 22, 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17, 600
An estimate of 20 per cent increase in cost of supplies due to the European War. 145,800
Total.---------------------------------------------- -------------- 304, 765
The estimated amounts to be added to each of the three items of appropriation
for each additional 1,000 sheets that may be added to the foregoing quantities are
as follows:

Compen- Plate Mate- -
* sation. printing. rials Total.
United States notes and certificates. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $6. 176 || $15. 104 $2.626 $23,906
National-bank notes and Federal reserve currency . . . . . . . . . . . . . S. 576 16. 344 2.936 27. S56
Internal-revenue stamps (average). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- 3. 136 1. 012 625 4. 773
Emergency revenue stamps (average). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7. 665 `. 253 4. 034 11. 952
Customs stamps (average). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14. 555 3. 837 2. 359 20. 751
Checks, drafts, and miscellaneous (average). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11. 480 5. 084 6, 725 23.289
Opium stamps and orders. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5.190 l. . . . . . . . . . 2. 398 7. 588
The mutilations in the course of manufacturing various classes of work vary from
1 to 5 per cent; and if your committee desires to specify the number of sheets to
be executed by this bureau, the appropriation should state that the quantities to
be delivered are to be exclusive of mutilations.
Respectfully,
*
J. E. RALPH, Director.
INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION.
valuation of cARRIERs—subsistence Accounts of FIELD PARTIEs.
WASHINGTON, January 9, 1915.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
House of Representatives, Washington, D. C.
DEAR SIR: Our starveying parties are for the most part subsisted in outfit cars, the
different members of the party being allowed $1 per diem for subsistence. In actual
practice the chief of the party and the more responsible members of the party advance
the amounts which may be necessary or become responsible in whatever sum it may
be necessary to procure the means of subsistence during the month, upon the under-
standing that when the subsistence checks are received by the different members of
the party they will be turned over in liquidation of these amounts. It has several
times happened that irresponsible members of the party have left before the end
of the month and have declined to make over their per diem checks in settlement
of the amount due from them. To obviate this difficulty it is desired to require
them to assign to the chief of the party the amount due from the Government on
account of the per diem allowances, but this can not it appears be done without
special legislative authority. I am, therefore, writing to request that if it strikes
you as proper there may be incorporated into the next appropriation bill a provision
that members of the field parties of the Interstate Commerce Commission engaged
in its valuation work under the act of March 1, 1913, may assign to the chiefs of their
respective parties the amount due or to become due on account of per diem allowance,
and that upon the making of such an assignment the disbursing clerk of the com-
mission is authorized to pay such amounts to the assignees.
If this could be done it would save us considerable inconvenience and compel
these employees to pay for what they have actually had. I am told that a similar
provision exists in case of employees in the Reclamation Service.
Respectfully,
(!. A. PROUTY, Director.
suxDRy CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 941
CRATER LAKE NATIONAL PARK,
HORSE-DRAWN, PASSENGER-CARRYING VEHICLES.
WASHINGTON, January 8, 1915.
Hon. JoHN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
United States JHowse of Representatives.
SIR: Referring to section 5 of the legislative, executive, and judicial act, approved
July 16, 1914, which provides that “there shall not be expended out of any appro-
priation made by Congress any Sum for purchase, maintenance, repair, or operation
of motor-propelled or horse-drawn, passenger-carrying vehicles for any branch of the
ublic service of the United States unless the same is specifically authorized by
aw, * * *,” I have the honor to state that subsequent to the hearing before your
committee on the 6th instant, relative to the estimate for the construction of roads
in Crater Lake National Park, a report was received from the officer in charge of that
work to the effect that two horse-drawn, passenger-carrying vehicles have been in use
in connection therewith for one or two years, and that it is desired to continue their
use. One team and vehicle will be used by the Survey party employed in laying out
work and locating new roads and one will be used by the assistant engineer (in local
charge) for inspection of work and for transporting workmen between camps and
work. The above teams will be used for a period of not to exceed seven months,
from July 1 to December 1, 1915, and May 1 to June 30, 1916, and the cost of main-
taining them will be as follows: 4.
2 teams, at $30 per month each, 7 months. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $420
Forage for teams, at $45 per month each, 7 months. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 630
Maintenance and repairs to above vehicles and horseshoeing, at $5 per month
each, 7 months.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70
Total--------------------------------------------------------------- 1, 120
It is requested that the item for Crater Lake National Park in the estimates sub-
mitted by this department be amended to provide for the maintenance, repair, and
operation of these vehicles. It is suggested that the wording be as follows:
“Crater Lake National Park, Oregon: For continuation of the construction of a
wagon road and the necessary bridges through the park, together with a system of
tanks and water-supply pipes for sprinkling in accordance with the recommendations
in House Document No. 328, Sixty-second Congress, second session, and for the
maintenance, repair, and operation of two horse-drawn passenger-carrying vehicles,
printing, binding, and blank books, to be expended under the direction of the Secre-
tary of War, to be immediately available and to remain available until expended,
$100,000.” -
Very respectfully, -
HENRY BRECKINRIDGE,
Assistant Secretary of War.
FUBLIC-LAND SERVICE.
[See p. 632.]
WASHINGTON, January 25, 1915.
Hon. JOHN J. FITZGERALD, . .
Chairman Committee on Appropriations, Howse of Representatives.
MY DEAR MR. FITZGERALD: Referring to my letter of the 19th instant, showing the
comparative amount of public-land business as represented by entries and selections
for recent years, as requested by you at the time I gave my testimony before your
committee, I beg to inclose here with, in addition to such statement Submitted as
above stated: “Statement of number of patents issued in the Land Service for the
fiscal years 1912, 1913, and 1914,” with the acreage patented, with the suggestion that
if it is not too late this statement be printed in the proceedings of the committee and
considered by you in connection with the “Statement of number of entries made in
the Land Service for the fiscal years 1912, 1913, and 1914,” heretofore submitted in
my said letter of January 19.
Very respectfully,
JLAY TALLMAN.
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SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Statement of nwmber of patents issued for fiscal years 1912, 1913, and 1914.

- 1912 1913
Classes of homestead entries.
Patents. Area. Patents. Area.
Final and soldiers’ additional homesteads. . . . . . . . . . 29,229 5,065, 188, 307 37,324 5,065, 188.307
Commuted homesteads. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22,507 3,338,686. 700 11, 112 1,613,257.99
Cash entries: º -
Public Sales------------------------------------ 4,925 445,086. 181 2,652 376,397.382
Timber and stone.----------------------------. 1,918 221, 573. 130 831 || 87,347.85
Mineral. . . . . ;---------------------------------- 1,039 55,930.296 1,053 61,666. 726
Coal and coal deposits... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 97 12,670. 500 124 16, 196.961
Abandoned military reservations. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 145 10, 154.980 63 7,861.37
Desert land and desert-land reclamation. . . . . . . 2,285 364,728. 10 2,211 356, 797. 02
Miscellaneous '------------------------------------- 1,315 99,697. 403 1,611 72,293.014
Railroad------------------------------------------- 21 20,975. 48 28 1,340,988.48
Desert land, Segregated and swamp . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 43,446.80 24 58,359.96
Indian trust and ſee *. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,367 226,784. 640 5,914 956,967.84
¥º bounty land, warrant and scrip. . . . . . . . . . . 148 14,936. 565 86 8, 140.18
Forest lieu Selection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 230 |: 42, 187. 536 108 12,370. 10
Special acts, including Indian lieu, railroad lieu, etc. 68 77,454. 49 146 281,292.676
Private land and small holding claims. . . . . . . . . . . . . 155 95,449.317 197 48,999.820
Cemetery, mission, and School sites. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 524.59 12 561.01
Total. ----------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 67,475 | 10, 135,475.01 63,496 | 12,678,076.80
1914 Total.
Classes of homestead entries.
Patents. Area. Patents. Area.
Final and soldiers’ additional homesteads. . . . . . . . . . 48,390 10,022, 765. 153 114,943 22,466, 531.886
Commuted homesteads. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8, 148 1,145,483. 19 41,767 6,097,427.88
Cash entries:
Public Sales------------------------------------ 1,730 122, 163.08 9,307 943,646. 643
Timber and Stone. ----------------------------- 1,136 117,818.90 3,885 426,739.88
Mineral---------------------------------------- 691 44,614. 444 2,783 162,211. 466
Coal and Coal deposits----------------------...- 98 11,720.87 319 40,588.331
Abandoned military reservations...... . . . . . . . . . 74 5, 199. 15 282 23,215.50
. Desert land and desert-land reclamation....... 2,140 347,994. 55 6,636 1,069,519.67
Misgellaneous'. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .--------- • 1,908 123,416.036 4,834 295,406. 453
Railroad------------------------------------------- 76 828,911. 07 125 2, 190,875.03
Desert land, Segregated and swamp. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28 66,489.65 65 168,296.41
Indian trust and ſee *. ----------------------------- 8,927 | 1,278,556.902 18,208 2,462,309.382
Military bounty land, warrant and scrip. . . . . . . . . . . . - 9 6,067. 73 331 29, 144.475
Forest lieu selection.....….….................... 223 27,044. 97 561 81, 602. 606
Special acts, including Indian lieu, railroad lieu, etc. 199 209,614.955 413 568,362. 121
Private land and small holding claims. . . . . . . . . . . . . 121 32,877. 743 473 177,326.88
Cemetery, mission, and school sites. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 333. 46 38 1,419.06
Total.---------------------------------------. 73,999 || 14,391,071.85 204,970 37,204,623.67

*Includes preemption, private and graduation cash, Cherokee school lands, townsites, town lots, etc.
*Does not include acreàge of fee patents.
GLACIER NATIONAL PARK.
BIRIDGE ACROSS FLATEIEAD RIVER,
Hon. JoBIN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives.
MY DEAR MR. FITZGERALD: The act of May 11, 1910, to establish the Glacier Na-
tional Park in the Rocky Mountains South of the international boundary line, in the
State of Montana, and for other purposes, provides, among other things, that the
Southern boundary of Said park shall be along the middle of the Flathead River to
its confluence with the Middle Fork of the Flathead River to where it crosses the
north boundary of the right of way of the Great Northern Railroad, etc.
WASHINGTON, January 21, 1915.
The Small town of Belton is on the Great Northern Railroad south of the main
entrance to the park, as well as south of the Middle Fork of the Flathead River. Per-
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 943
sons desiring to enter the park at this point must proceed from Belton in a north-
easterly direction, crossing the Flathead River by means of a wooden bridge. This
bridge is constructed entirely of logs, is old and dangerous; it is supported by a crib
on either side of the river, built upon a ledge of rocks; these cribs are liable to give
way, and the bridge itself, being constructed of native poles, will not support very
much weight. The distance to Belton by way of this old bridge to the top of the
hill where the Government road into the park commences, is approximately 1 mile.
As will be seen from the inclosed copy of a telegram from Supervisor Ralston, dated
January 17, 1915, this bridge has been condemned by the county commissioners and
it can be repaired at a cost of $600. As the Southern boundary of the park is along the
northern bank of the Middle Fork of the Flathead River, the bridge in question is
almost wholly outside of the park limits and it would not therefore be practicable to
expend any portion of the appropriation for the protection and improvement of the
park in the improvement of this bridge. It is desirable that the bridge in question be
put in proper condition for travel during the season of 1915, and it is suggested that
this department be permitted to use a portion of the current park appropriation in
making the necessary improvements to the bridge to make it safe for travel.
I therefore recommend the following paragraph be included in the pending Sundry
civil bill, after the portion thereof making appropriations for the Glacier National
Park during the fiscal year 1916, to wit: g -
“The Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized to expend from the appropria-
tion for the administration and improvement of the Glacier National Park provided
for in the sundry civil act of August 1, 1914, the sum of $600, or so much thereof as may
be necessary, in the improvement of the wooden bridge leading across the Middle Fork
of the Flathead River and connecting the Belton Road with the road into the park.”
Cordially, yours,
FRANKLIN K. LAN.E.
WestERN UNION TELEGRAPH CO.
[Telegram.]
KALISPELL, MonT., January 17, 1915.
SECRETARY INTERIOR, -
s Washington, D. C.:
Replying department telegram January 16, Flathead bridge condemned by county
commissioners; old bridge can be repaired for $600; can replace with new wooden
bridge $2,000; replace with steel or concrete $5,000; new site for bridge at Snyder Hill
opposite Belton; wooden bridge, concrete piers, $15,000; Steel bridge, Same piers,
wooden approaches, $25,000; strongly urge steel bridge at new site, as it would shorten
road approximately 1 mile and eliminate heavy cost of maintaining old road occasioned
by land slides, - -
S. F. R.ALSTON, Supervisor.
}=====º:
SATURDAY, JANUARY 9, 1915.
COMMISSION ON INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS.
[See p. 979.]
STATEMENT OF MR. FRANK P, WALSH, CHAIRMAN.
The CHAIRMAN. We have before us an estimate of $40,000 for com-
pleting the inquiries and investigations authorized by the act of
August 23, 1912, entitled “An act to create a Commission on Indus-
trial Relations.” -
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Please state what the situation is.
Mr. WALSH. The situation is this: We have on hand of the $200,000
appropriated about $42,000. We are also asking for a deficiency
appropriation of $100,000. The life of our commission ceases on the
23d of August. The $40,000 was asked for to complete the work.
The CHAIRMAN. When will the commission cease?
944 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. WALSH. On the 23d of August; and we will have to have our
work together, of course, when we close at that time.
The CHAIRMAN. What have you done thus far ” &
Mr. WALSH. We have held investigations in all of the cities of the
United States that we intend to hold them, save about four, one in
Chicago, where there is a large amount of work to be done because
of the railroad investigation, and the reason that has been passed is
because, as you gentlemen may have noticed, Mr. Delano, who was
one of the employers upon our commission, was put on the Federal
Reserve Board, and his place has not yet been filled. The nomina-
tion has been sent to the Senate and we deterred that investigation
until the appointment should be made. There is still an investiga-
tion to be made in Michigan, one at Birmingham, and one at Atlanta.
Then we will have the closing up of our investigations. They ought
to be closed up by about the 1st day of April, and then from that time
forward it will be a question of editing the work of the commission
and making the recommendations. The work we have done we are
now presenting in certain bulletins being prepared for Congress. Of
course, at the rate at which we have been going we will run out of
money entirely about the 24th of March, and we ask for a deficiency
appropriation of $100,000. r
The CHAIRMAN. We will not consider that deficiency estimate
in connection with this bill. *
Mr. WALSH. The reason I mention that, I was told, Mr. Fitzgerald,
that you might hear us at the same time on this $100,000 item.
The CHAIRMAN. That is before a different subcommittee. How-
ever, you can state the condition of your work and what is planned to
be done from now until the finish.
Mr. GILLETT. Whether you need the $40,000 would depend upon
whether you got this $100,000, would it not .
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir. s
The CHAIRMAN. Can you not tell us more definitely just what in-
vestigations have been made and what work has been done?
Mr. WALSII. Since I was here before, we have held public hear-
ings ------ --~~~~-- - - - - -...--...------,
|Mr. Gillett (interposing). When were you here before; one year
ago' -
Mr. WALSII. At the last session. Since then we have held public
hearings at Lead, S. Dak., and Chicago, Ill. The Chicago hearings
were on general industrial conditions and relations; an investigation
into the issuance of injunctions in labor cases, the question of picket-
ing and boycotting, as it came up in Chicago; the incorporation of
trade unions. We had the very large employers of labor in that
territory before us as well as the managers of the labor unions. The
industrial conditions and relations in the building trades, especially
with reference to jurisdictional disputes; the metal trades, and a part
of the coal-mining situation, as well as the printing industry. At
Lead, S. Dak., we had an investigation into the industrial conditions
and relations in gold-mining operations in the Black Hills, including
Lead, and the operation of open shops and what they callclosed towns.
At Butte, Mont., we had an investigation into industrial conditions
in the copper-mining industry. The commission got there at the time
when there was a conflict between two labor unions, and it was in a
territory where they had dealt—different, of course, from Lead—or
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 945
attempted to deal, with the labor unions. We went into the history
of the local miners' union, its relation with the copper companies,
and the facilitiés or lack of facilities toward taking care of the health
of the miners.
At eattle, Wash., we went into the general industrial conditions
and relations there, especially with reference to the lumber industry
and to seasonal and migratory labor; also the question of unemploy-
meat, the question of a minimum wage which had been adopted there,
and workmen’s compensation, which was new, and other i.
We also had there an executive hearing on the smuggling of Asiatics,
that subject being submitted to us under the law we are workin
under. In Portland, Oreg., we had a hearing upon the ºi
industrial conditions existing in Oregon with reference to the lumber
industry and the land question partially. In San Francisco we had
the entire open and closed shop controversy in Stockton, Cal., which
was in process at that time. The boycott or strike had begun about
30 days before, and it was the one that was concluded and settled by
an agreement on December 1. There the question of seasonal labor
and unemployment was taken up; labor conditions in construction
camps; the question of collective bargaining generally, because there
is where it has reached its highest development in this country;
industrial accident compensation. They had a compensation act
there that had been on the books for about two years and had come
in through a great deal of opposition, and we heard both sides and
we are issuing a bulletin on industrial compensation from the Cali-
foraia standpoint, the law having been it complete operation now for
two years. .
We also took up the general industrial conditions in relation to
San Francisco and had an executive hearing on the smuggling of
Asiatics. Los Angeles, Cal., is an open-shop town, and there we had
a complete hearing on the open and closed shop controversy. We
had before us all those people who are the advocates of an open shop,
and there they have it in all the trades, including the printing trades,
more than any other place. We had an executive session of about
two weeks in Chicago afterwards and received the report of our
investigator in the Éd in the study of leading industries in the
United States as provided by this law, and since that time we have
had an investigation lasting about three weeks in the State of Colo-
rado, which went into the whole dispute out there and into industrial
relations generally in Colorado. We now have a three weeks' hear-
ing planned for New York, beginning upon next Monday, which
goes into the question largely of the absentee ownership of these
industries and the responsibility of the real owners for conditions
found to exist in the United States. As I explained here before,
while these hearings have been going on we have had a staff of
investigators doing the work laid down in the law under the direction
of Dr. Charles McCarthy, of Wisconsin. They are making their
reports now monthly and they are now being edited and put into
final shape. I think that broadly states our work, Mr. Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN. You have had $350,000?
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir. *
The CHAIRMAN. And you say you want all told $140,000 more for
practically six months' work. Now, what is to be done during those
six months?
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Mr. WALSH. We are to continue these investigations until they
are finished. We have a large number of investigators in the field
and we are to hold these additional hearings. :-,
The CHAIRMAN. How long will the investigations continue !
Mr. WALSH. I think we will close with our last investigation about
the 1st day of May.
The Chamxas. What kind of persons are employed as investi-
gators'
Mr. WALSH. Well, we will take Mr. Barnes. He was an investi-
gator on unemployment. Mr. Barnes is the gentleman who made an
investigation for the New York State commission on the seamen and
longshoremen in New York; and also did the same work for some
private organization that extended to Boston. Mr. Barnes has
finished his work. His work was on the longshoremen situation in
all the ports, on the question of collective bargaining.
The CHAIRMAN. What was his business before that?
Mr. WALSH. I really could not tell you.
Mr. SHERLEY. When did he make his investigation of longshoremen
for the State commission ?
Mr. WALSH. Before he made ours. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand that, but I want to know when.
b *. WALSH. I would say on my own recollection about one year
€IOI’6.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you think it was worth while to employ the same
man within one year to make the same examination about the same
eople 7
p Ş. WALSH. As I understand it, Mr. Sherley, he did not make the
same examination about the same people. He was employed because
he already had a great deal of information and because it would save
the time of a man going over that again. He made the examination
in these other ports.
The CHAIRMAN. How much are these investigators paid 7
Mr. WALSH. My recollection is that Mr. Barnes's compensation was
$5 per day, and he gets $5 a day when on the road for his living and
traveling expenses. - -
The CHAIRMAN, What others have you employed 3
Mr. WALSH. Prof. George Barnett was in charge of collective bar-
gaining—Prof. Barnett, of Johns Hopkins University. He was
selected because he was said to have had a great deal of data upon
the subject, having made it a study. A staff was selected for him to
do research work and do such other work of intensive investigation
as he thought necessary outside, to find how these contracts had been
performed in the coal fields, potteries, the printing trades, and other
industries.
Mr. SHERLEY. Had he been conducting a private investigation
before that; I mean, a voluntary investigation of his own 7
Mr. WALSH. He has written a good deal on the subject. He wrote
a monograph on the potteries and on the glass blowers' union.
Mr. SHERLEY. Under what auspices 3 .
Mr. WALSH. As professor of the Johns Hopkins University. I do
not think he has done any work except on his own account and for
Johns Hopkins. The work he did was for the purpose of writing on
the subject. - -
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Mr. SHERLEY. Was the result of his activities to relieve Johns
Hopkins University of the expense and put the burden on the Federal
Government 7 ^.
Mr. WALSH. I hope not. We were not intending it that way. .
Mr. SHERLEY. That is the way it appears offhand. He was doing
such work for Johns Hopkins and you employ him to do the same
work for the United States, and I am just wondering whether Johns
Hopkins did not gain and the United States lose by the transaction.
Mr. WALSH. The law is that we shall study the question of col-
lective bargaining, and my idea was to get the man who knew the
most about collective bargaining; and if he had happened to do
some work for Johns Hopkins, I hope he did it well
Mr. SHERLEY (interposing). That may be; but it is a side light on
the wisdom of the law. y
Mr. WALSH. Or on the wisdom of the commission, which 3
Mr. SHERLEY. On the wisdom of the law which created the com-
mission. I will be perfectly frank about it. I think we have spent
a great sum of money, and it is worth while considering whether in
the first place Congress did not inadvisedly appropriate money for
the purpose, and in reaching a conclusion pro or con these matters
naturally suggest themselves. -
Mr. WALSH. That may be; but when you get a job, of course, you
have to do it the best way you can and with the best material you
can get; and I would like to say that with the experience I have
had, I think Prof. Barnett is really a splendid man.
Mr. S3ERLEY. I have no doubt of that. The question is whether
we were not getting all the value of Prof. Barnett's labor—as we do
on most subjects-- through other agencies than the Government, and
the Government entering the field simply means the stopping of
other agencies and the Government paying the bill. That is one of
the pertin nt matters that come up in connection with this sort of
an Investigation. *- - - - -
Mr. WALSH. Of course the commission had nothing to do with the
legislation. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I understand that. -
Mr. WALSH. We had Miss Barnum to make a study of the depart-
ment stores and to make a report to us and assist us in our hearings
when we had those questions up. Miss Barnum was employed for
Several months, and her experience came through her activities in
the labor movement and in the question of getting proper conditions
for women. She is the daughter of Judge Barnum, of Chicago, and
began this work in a philanthropic way with Jane Addams, and from
that she sort of evolutcq into the labor field, and I think she was a
yery fine woman for that work. Miss Barnum has finished her work
TOI UIS. -
Mr. Bird is a gentleman we have had with us since we started and
who is still with us. He made the first-hand study of public agencies.
The statute requires us to make a study of existing labor statutes, etc.,
and we had Mr. Bird do that work for us, prepare the work for our
hearings, and follow up our hearings if there was anything we thought
should be further investigated; and he is the man who has done the
most of the work on the recommendations that we may propose as to
Some sort of a permanent organization within the Government to
handle the question of industrial relations, an administrative bill, or
948 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
whatever you might call it. We have not come to the point where I
can speak definitely about that. ... We have paid him the limit that
we were allowed to pay anybody, because he was deemed to be a very
valuable man. *
Mr. GILLETT. What is that limit
Mr. WALSH. $3,000. Mr. Bird is a graduate of the University of
Wisconsin. He was highly recommended by Prof. Commons, who
is a member of our commission, and he has made a study of a number
of State bureaus and has made the criticisms for the commission.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you pay their expenses in addition to their
salaries } - -
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir; that is limited to $5 a day for all of the staff
and the commission as well.
Mr. GILLETT. The members of the commission get $10 a day ?
Mr. WALSH. The members of the commission get $10 per day
while they are actually in session or on their way to and fro. Of
course, a man like Prof. Barnett has to have a staff of assistants, and
Mr. Bird has had to have a staff of assistants. . He has had at times, I
guess, as many as four or five assistants. Miss Barnum, while she was
in New York had a staff of assistants and for a while in Chicago.
Mr. Bradford– there have been so many of these men that I do not
recall whether he is still on the staff or not. He is the one who made
the investigation on the ground of the workings of collective bar-
gaining with the United Mine Workers of America in the Pennsyl-
vania field and other fields. We have a great deal of it, of course, in
º reports and in the literature, but it is a constantly changing
subject.
The CHAIRMAN. There has been published one report'
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir; we published a report that has not been
printed yet, I understand. We had some of them printed, and I
would be glad to give each one of you gentlemen a copy. I do not
know what the modus operandi is in Congress about printing.
The CHAIRMAN. You contemplate completing your investigations
by about the 1st of May 7
Mr. WALSH. We will finish the work of these investigators who are
out in the field, and that is a very expensive thing, because we not
only pay their salaries but their transportation expenses. We spend
nothing except for salaries, transportations, stationery, and rent.
The CHAIRMAN. Then the commission will make its recommenda-
tions based on these investigations by the 23d of August 3 -
l, r. WALSH. I have had the matter up before; the law provided for
three years, and my idea is this: We really only had 2 months, and
it was a question of concentrating the work. I took it up with all
those interested in it, I talked with the President about it a time or
two, and we got the very best notion we could about how to do it,
and it is a question of concentration. I really think if you gentle-
men see fit to give us this deficiency appropriation of $100,000 there
will be somethi g left to transfer; or if there is not anything left to
transfer, we will not need the $40,000. You see that $40,000 runs from
the 30th of JJulie until the 3d of August, as I understand. Now, I
think, with the exception of putting the final touches on the recom-
meſſdations, and that will be done by the commission itself prac-
tically, with perhaps some clerical assistance, the expensive part of
the work will not fall in July and August.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you pay for printing out of your appropriation ?
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 949
Mr. WALSH. We have not had any printing. We had some of
these reports printed because there was such a demand for it, and we
wanted to get it to you. . Mr. Courts was calling for our annual
report, assuming that we had one like an ordinary bureau of the
Government. Therefore we paid for this printing you see here; but
otherwise we have not paid for any, and we are assuming that if
Congress wishes it printed they will have it printed, and if they do not
think it worth while they will not.
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean that out of this $40,000 you do not
expect to pay for the printing of your investigation?
Mr. WALSH. We have not. -
Mr. GILLETT. That represents practically the entire uséfulness of
the reports, does it not ?
Mr. WALSH. Yes; I supposed that the Congress had some way of
providing for that. +. &
Mr. GILLETT. Of course we could print them, but I wanted to know
whether you calculated that expense in your estimate.
Mr. WALSH. No; we had not calculated it. We had intended
whenever the proper time came to simply put it up to the Members
of the House of Representatives and the Senate to do what they
thought fit about it. - &
Mr. SHERLEY. Is not that a rather curious situation ? We have
created a commission whose life expires at a certain time and you
have laid out certain work and contemplate doing that work within
that time and then make no recommendation touching the cost of
printing your work and making it available after you have done it,
and Congress has no option whether it shall print it or not.
Mr. WALSH. I thought Congress had the entire option.
Mr. SHERLEY. It has a theoretical option. But what option has
any man, in common sense, when he has spent four or five hundred
thousand dollars to get data, as to whether it should be printed or
not ? Do you not think Congress was entitled as you went along to
know something of what the cost of the printing would be and what
you expected to print : Do you not think we ought to know that
now . - *
Mr. WALSH. Yes. I am perfectly willing to tell it to you now.
I thought the Congress had the entire option, and I thought I was
allowing them to exercise that option very freely. . .
Mr. SHERLEY. But you are playing on words. Of course we have
the option –– &
Mr. WALSH (interposing). I did not intend to play on words.
Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, we have the option, but what we need
is information on which to exercise that option. Do you not think
we are entitled to know what you contemplate should be printed
and what it is going to cost in addition to the estimate for continuing
the work? i
Mr. WALSH. I think, Mr. Sherley, you are entitled to know all
about it, and that is the reason I came here from Kansas City. I
am here at the will of you gentlemen, and I have come here every
time I have been summoned.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it the opinion of the commission that there should
be printed, in addition to the report, the reports of all these
investigators?
950 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
Mr. W ALSH. Here is what I think about it: On those subjects
covered by the law—that is, the study into large industries—we
have had abstracted the reports of the special investigators. I think
they are valuable. --
The CHAIRMAN. You mean the abstracts : . . "
Mr. WALSH. Yes; we have abstracted the reports of the investiga-
tions, leaving off the nonessentials and including simply the facts.
We have had the hearings digested, just like you digest a law brief,
Setting out the salient facts, and leaving out parts of the cross-
examination, for instance, that do not add anything to the general
subject, and I think that work has been done very carefully and is a
very good job. I think that Congress, to get the effect of this work,
if it amounts to anything after it is finished, ought to print those
digests. I did not think that it was essential that they should be
printed while the work was going on. -
Mr. GILLETT. To print them as you went along would have been
really the only way we could have judged of the value of the work
you were doing. .
Mr. WALSH. If you had wanted to see the work that was going on,
of course that would have been the handiest way to do it. Now,
there are some special subjects that the commission has asked our
director of investigations to superintend the publication of bulletins
on, and when those bulletins were prepared, I had supposed that the
matter would be presented to the proper committee of Congress and
that they would pass on the question of whether they would print
them or not. There are two ways of looking at that. Of course one
way is that we place a very great value upon our own work and could
have gone ahead and had it printed, and the other is to leave it to
Congress. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I did not mean that you should go ahead and have
printed anything you saw fit, but I did mean to say that the final
statement of money that you need must contemplate the cost and
need of printing certain data; and now that you are finishing your
work you ought to be prepared to tell us what you think Ought to be
printed and how much it will cost, so that we can exercise the option
of determining whether we shall print it and at what cost it shall be
rinted.
p Mr. WALSH. If that was my duty, Mr. Sherley, I have been very
remiss in it, because while I am prepared to tell you what we have
and what ought to be printed, I have never contemplated the idea
of having estimates made as to the cost of the printing.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you not see the situation that we are in 3 You
go out of existence under the law that created your being at a date
soon to arrive; in the meanwhile you have been collecting supposedly
valuable data at considerable expenses to the Government. Now do
you not think that when you come for what are your final estimates
they ought to include certain data and information as to what you
think should be published and what it ought to cost 7
Mr. WALSH. But I have not.
Mr. SHERLEY. And how could we proceed on any other theory I
am surprised that it could be conceivable that it was not necessary to
give us that information.
Mr. WALSH. Here is exactly what I thought about it: I supposed—
in fact, it had been stated to me; I have had no previous experience
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with the Government and have not, of course, served in Congress and
have not followed such matters, because Mr. Borland, who is sitting
there, has naturally kept all the rest of us out of Congress. My idea
was this, that if you wanted anything printed there was some way of
having it ordered printed in Congress, so that we did not have to take
cognizance of it in our appropriations. - -
The CHAIRMAN. But that would be charging printing for this com-
mission against the appropriation for printing for Congress. -
M. WALSH. That is what I thought would be a very clever way
to do it.
The CHAIRMAN. That is a very easy way of unloading it on the
appropriation for congressional printing.
Mr. WALSH. I guess that is exactly what we were doing. Some-
body told me that was the way to do it, and it looked like a good
scheme to me. - - -
The CHAIRMAN. What we will want, Mr. Walsh, will be a state-
ment prepared by the commission which will show the material that
in its opinion should be printed and an estimate of the cost of such
printing. - -
Mr. WALSH. I will get that for you. I can give you into the
record now what ought to be printed and I will get that estimate
and will be very glad to do it. May I ask a question? Do I under-
stand that this printing is done by the Government at its printing
office and the estimate should be based upon that %
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. WALSH. I will be very glad indeed to do that for you. I will
say this, in defense of myself, when this matter came up I, of course,
did think that the question of printing would be a question, and I
asked Mr. Brown, who is our secretary, to see some one about it,
and my recollection of the report he made to me is that he spoke to
Senator Kern about it, and that he was very hopeful that Congress
would take care of it in some way.
|UNITED STATES COMMISSION ON INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS,
Washington, January 14, 1915.
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS,
House of Representatives, Washington, D. C.
GENTLEMEN: At vour direction, and supplementing the testimony of our chairman,
Mr. Frank P. Walh, before your committee on January 9, we beg to advise that we
have looked into the matter of the cost of printing our final report and have to advise
you as follows: *
The outside limit of cost of printing our final report will be $10,000.
The above figure is based on an estimate which we have to-day received from the
Goverament Printing Office. The estimate is based upon what we now believe Will
be the greatest number of volumes that we will desire printed and on the largest
number of copies. * g e
As stated by Mr. Walsh to your committee, we can not at this time determine with
any degree of certainty the amount of matter to be printed as our final report. We
are quite certain that there will be considerably less to be printed than the amount
upon which the above estimate is based; in fact, it is quite possible that $6,000 or
$7,000 will be the cost. & e
Until the hearings and field investigations are all completed, and the commission
has then examined the digest of the testimony and the reports, it will not be able to
decide what matter will form a part of the final report. As stated verbally by Mr.
Walsh, we will not reach this stage of our work until June or July.
Yours, respectfully, -
THE COMMISSION ON INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS,
R. S. BRENNAN.
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The CHAIRMAN. Of course, whatever printing is done should be
charged to the cost of this work and should not be charged to the cost
of conducting the Congress. .
Mr. WALSH. I see the difference.
Mr. GILLETT. I notice you said the work would be finished about
May 1. *
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir. w
Mr. GILLETT. I suppose you do not mean by that that the field is
exhausted ?
Mr. WALSH. Not by any means. -
Mr. GILLETT. You might just as well finish April 1, or to-morrow,
or 10 years from now. -
Mr. WALSH. Yes; the people who promoted this legislation just
arbitrarily concluded that the job would take three years. You
; go on with the job for 300 years. It is a constantly changing
thing.
º SHERLEY. And it is probably true from previous experience
that if they had not fixed a limit of three years it would go on for 300
€8,I’S.
y Mr. WALSH. Very good. When we got into the work, naturally
the promoters of this legislation, all worthy people, I think, imme-
diately began to assail me with the proposition that of course Congress
would extend our time to three years, inasmuch as we had only had
22 months. In looking over the situation and organi.ing the com-
mission some of the members came to the conclusion that this job
could be done just as well in 22 months as it could in three years – and
it is like the man I heard about who was going to write a book of 25
chapters and he was all his life getting to the fifth chapter, because
when he got to the fifth chapter he knew so much more about the
subject than he did when he began that he had to go back and write
it over again. Now, I think we can do a fairly decent job, with the
idea as we gather it out of that law, in 22 months, and we can say,
“Now here are the high places. These are what we call the leading
industries of the United States, coal mining, steel, printing, trans-
portation, and a few others. Now, here is what we find from the lit-
erature and from the investigations we have been able to make in
this time, and here are what we find to be from our viewpoint the
causes of industrial unrest, and here is the situation which seems to
exist in the country,” and when that is all put together I think you
will have a fairly good body of facts upon which to proceed in your
legislation, and we are going to offer you some recommendations that
I think some of you will agree with.
Mr. GILLETT. You have not answered my question as to why you
picked out the 1st of May. -
Mr. WALSH. That is simply my estimate of it.
Mr. GILLETT. You mean it will tº ke you from that time until
Auoust to perfect the results of your work?
Mr. WALSH. It will. For instºnce, I hºve notified these in-
vestigators that they can not expect to run on after the 1st of Mºy.
We are on certº in subjects now, and I have tºken it up with Dr.
McCarthy and he thinks the work can be done by the 1st of May.
After the 1st of May we expect to have a few more public hearings,
and the members of the commission have all promised—except the
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new member whom I hope will be confirmed in a day or two—to
devote all their time to the work, if necessary.
Mr. GILLETT. What is the use of having a new member appointed
now when you only have about three months' work'.
Mr. WALSH. I do not know. *
Mr. GILLETT. However, that is not a matter you have anything
to do with 7 -
Mr. WALSH. No, sir. *
Mr. GILLETT. When you make these investigations all over the
country, what do you do? TXoes the full board go out and conduct
the hearings' .
Mr. WALSH. Practically the full board at every one of them. We
intended to do it by subcommittees, but we found out that in our
time we could hold so few that we could only take the important ones,
and at every place the labor men——
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). You could have held two or three times
as many if you had divided up the commission.
Mr. WALSH. I do not believe we could have done so in very many
places. This is a board of three labor men, three employers, and
three of the general public, and at every one of these places there
was some acute question, and there would be a request from the em-
loyers that the members who are employers should go there and
rom the workers that the working members should be present, and we
find it impossible to do the work by subcommittees. -
Mr. MondELL. As I understand it, Mr. Walsh, you have outlined a
certain amount of work you desire to complete 7 t
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir. -
Mr. MONDELL. You think so far as the hearings are concerned you
can fairly bring out the facts with regard to those things by May 7
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir.
Mr. MondBLL. And that the balance of the time you will utilize in
getting your data together and studying it, and then arriving at a
conclusion and completing your report -
Mr. WALSH. That is right, with this exception: We expect to hold a
few hearings after May 1. We will get through with our investi-
gations, which is the most expensive part of the work. -
Mr. MoRDELL. You have not as yet come to any conclusion as to
just how much of the record you have made should be published ?
Mr. WALSH. Yes, sir. I think that the digest of the evidence of
these hearings ought to be published. ... I think that our boiled-down
report of course ought to be published, and we will have a mass of
information that ought to go to some department of the Government.
For instance, I think, and we will probably recommend, there ought
to be some permanent body on industrial relations. That appears
logical to the commission, and I think that the appendixes of all these
matters ought to be kept but not printed.
Mr. MondLLL. Have you any idea how many volumes of printed
matter that would make or how many pages }
Mr. WALSH. I do not know. It would be a good big volume.
Mr. SHERLEY. Let me ask you one general question: Did you have
anybody either before you or working for you who approached the
question with the idea that perhaps governmental activity was not
a prerequisite to the solution of any and every thing?
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* WALSH. Indeed we have. We have had it splendidly pre-
sented. -
M . SHERLEY. I wondered whether anybody besides myself still
believes with Herbert Spencer touching the evolution of a few things
in life. I notice that everybody who was employed by you had here-
tofore been engaged in the business of investigating and continuing
to investigate, and that consequently it was hardly to be expected
that they would reach a conclusion against continual governmental
activity in any particular field. -
Mr. WALSH. I beg your pardon. Of course, I did not nearly give
you the names of all the people we had. They are arranged here
alphabetically. For instance, I put my hand here on the name of
one gentleman, Mr. O'Sullivan. I will undertake to say that Mr.
O'Sullivan was never in the business. He is a New Yorker, and
while, of course, I do not want to quote him, yet I think Mr. O'Sulli-
van is one of those who thinks the Government ought to keep its
hands off. He is a trade-unionist, and there were certain lines of
investigation that he could well do, and we had him, with another
gentleman who was not a trade-unionist, go around and gather this
information. I think Mr. Perlman is such a man as you mentioned.
I am quite sure Mr. Speek is, and some of these professors we have on
our list are very strong in their opinion along that line, and in our
digest of testimony you will find that your view has been splendidly
presented at different places in the country.
Mr. SHERLEY. Not necessarily my view particularly, but I am
simply anxious that we should get an investigation from all angles.
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1915. -
SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION.
STATEMENTS OF MR. CHARLES D. WALCOTT, SECRETARY, AND
MR. RICHARD RATHBUN, ASSISTANT SECRETARY.
PRINTING AND BINDING.
The CHAIRMAN. For printing for the Smithsonian Institution the
appropriation is $76,200, and you are asking an increase of 14 per
cent, making the appropriation $88,700. - - !
Mr. WALCOTT. Mr. Chairman, may I say a word before you reach
that? The Annual Report of the Board of Regents is now limited to
7,000 copies for distribution by the Institution, for which you ap-
propriate $10,000. Two hundred and fifty of those 7,000 copies are
delivered in the form of separate papers, and 6,000 copies are re-
quired for supplying the distribution lists of libraries and other in-
stitutions, leaving 1,000 copies for all other demands. Now, we
have a constant demand for the report, and there are now about 30
copies left of our present edition, which was sent to us only a few
weeks ago. We have applications for them filed by both Congress-
men and individuals, and what I would like to do is to ask the com-
mittee to put in a proviso that the number of copies for the Institu-
tion shall not exceed 10,000 copies, costing $10,000. In other words,
if by any process we can reduce the cost of getting out that volume
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and print more copies, if it should be only 8,000 or 9,000 copies, we
could then do so. - - -
Mr. GILLETT. Does it read now that the number shall not exceed
7,000 copies?
Mr. WALCOTT. Yes, sir.
Mr. GILLETT. Is this your annual report?
Mr. WALCOTT. Yes; that is the volume for which there is the
greatest demand. -
Mr. GILLETT. That is the one in which there are all kinds of
articles?
Mr. WALCOTT. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. The Smithsonian annual report?
Mr. WALCOTT. Yes, sir; the old law says there shall be printed
7,000 copies. --
Mr. GILLETT. Why do you limit that volume simply to your
report? .
Mr. WALCOTT. For the simple reason that the Institution for
many years, and really from the start of the Institution, has always
given in that volume a summary of the Scientific information of
the world for the preceding year bearing upon many technical and
practical subjects, and if it were limited to simply the annual adminis-
trative report it would be of very little value.
Mr. GILLETT. It used to have what I considered mostly magazine
articles.
Mr. WALCOTT. It is the interpretation, you might say, of the sci-
entific and technical work of the world to the American public.
They are not magazine articles, they are articles from the best au-
thorities on given subjects the world over, and they are articles that
do not appear in current magazines, although they appear in tech-
nical papers and yet are of such character that they interpret the
results of investigations and show the advance in any line of Science.
'The fact that the demand for them comes from technical men, very
largely, and from schools and teachers indicates that they are useful.
Mr. Rathbun will speak about the appropriation for the National
Museum. g
The CHAIRMAN. You ask that your allotment be increased from
$37,500 to $50,000. - s -
Mr. RATHIBUN. Mr. Chairman, the reason for asking the increase
is very easily explained. The appropriation is expended for the
printing of publications, for the binding of books for the library, for
miscellaneous printing such as blanks, letterheads, envelopes, labels,
and that sort of thing, then for the purchase of public documents,
which are few. Now, of course no exact estimate can be made of the
amounts required to be expended under these several heads, because
sometimes one is a little larger than the other; but the needs of each
year are always above the amount of the appropriations. They
always have been. The reason no exact estimate can be made is
because the cost of the various items, of which I have been Speaking,
varies from year to year. I am not able to give you a detailed sum-
mary for a number of years because I had not the time after receiv-
ing the summons to put that information together. I have before
me the accounts for last year, 1914, in which it is shown that the cost
of printing publications for that year was $32,451.23, the cost of
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binding for the library was $1,368.36, and the miscellaneous printing
cost $3,646.01.
The CHAIRMAN. What is that miscellaneous printing?
Mr. RATHBUN. The miscellaneous printing consists very largely
of the labels for the specimens, the labels for the specimens on 'exhi-
bition, and the labels for the specimens which are put away.
Mr. GILLETT. $3,000 for labels? º
Mr. RATHBUN. The labels form the largest single item. Under the
heading of what we call miscellaneous printing there were printed.
that year 252,283 labels. Now a large share of those labels, of course,
in number of pieces, were little forms on which is simply printed
“ United States National Museum,” “No.,” and one or two other
things, the rest to be filled out in pencil, but of course when you come
to labels for the exhibition cases, for the specimens themselves, for
Sections and for the rooms, you must resort to a more expensive kind
of printing. Of course, our label printing is not really expensive.
The CHAIRMAN. How much has been spent for labels?
Mr. RATHBUN. Unfortunately, I do not have that information
here.
The CHAIRMAN. What else is there? -
Mr. RATHIBUN. Mr. Chairman, you know we do not get the details
from the Government Printing Office. -
The CHAIRMAN. What else is there besides labels under that miscel-
laneous item' •
Mr. RATHIBUN. There were 57,565 blanks. That would include
requisition, voucher, civil-service blanks, and everything of that sort.
There were 489 forms, and the total number of pieces printed was
57,565. Now of catalogue cards, such as we use for cataloguing speci-
mens, books, etc., there were 116,492, in 22 forms. Of course, these
are mainly filled in with writing. Of letterheads there were 33,600,
printed in two different forms; of envelopes there were 40,725 in six
different forms; and there were 1,200 pads made up. Besides these,
there were time books, voucher books, catalogues, and some plans
of the building, etc. This item includes everything of the nature of
miscellaneous job printing work, which we are obliged to have done
at the Government Printing Office.
Mr. GILLETT. Is the paper paid for under this appropriation?
Mr. RATHBUN. The paper is furnished by the Government Print-
ing Office. Everything is furnished by the Government Printing
Office. There was expended for public documents $24. That makes
the total expenditure for last year $37,489.60 and left a balance of
$10.40 unexpended. It was the first year in many in which we were
able to practically use up our appropriation. Frequently we are in-
formed by the Public Printer late in the year that we had no
balance left and he has to stop our printing in May or June, and
then in July we may receive information from him that an actual
balance of even $6,000 did exist, which, of course, is then lost to us.
The latest bill from the Government Printing Office is for the current
year up to January 1, 1915, and this indicates the amount of the bills
rendered and of the estimates on unbilled and uncompleted work—
that is, everything that was charged against us, either of finished or
unfinished work, and that bill gives a total liability of $31,552.63,
leaving a balance on that date of $5,947.37.
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Mr. GILLETT. Don't you have to apportion this item of appro-
priation?
Mr. RATHBUN. We do not. As I understand it, the law provides
that the Public Printer shall apportion it. He may apportion our
work, but we do not apportior, it in sending it to him. The work is
there, and when he gets through with any appropriation or allot-
ment made to us, of course, he stops. Now, referring to that balance
of $5,947.37. We have a volume which was recently sent to the Gov-
ernment Printing Office. It is a volume of proceedings, or the
beginning of it, and it would entail an additional expenditure of
about $5,000. Then there is another volume which will cost about
$2,000, and that would more than even up the balance. In addition,
I have in my office, not yet turned over to the editor, a very large
number of papers accepted for the proceedings, and there is enough
of them to fill an entire volume, and, of course, the year is only about
half gone. Now, there is another item which has always been spoken
of in connection with these estimates—that is, whenever we have
had a chance to speak of it—and that is the matter of binding books
for the library. That includes the bringing together of periodicals
and pamphlets. A large proportion, and probably the larger pro-
portion, of the material received by the library is unbound
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). How many volumes are in your
library?
Mr. RATHBUN. There are about 40,000 books in the library and
much over that number of pamphlets. Now, two years ago I had
an estimate made of the cost of binding the unbound paper-cover
pamphlets and periodicals and books—and we send out unbound
books
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). Do you call that [indicating] an un-
bound book?
Mr. RATHBUN. No, sir. We do not bind our own publications,
except a few copies mainly for the use of the Museum. I have not
that estimate (binding books for the library) with me. I was not
able to find it in time, but the cost was estimated at about $25,000.
Now, there has been no intention to ask at any time for that amount,
but if something were added to the appropriation we could catch
up some time. Last year we were able to spend, as shown in this
bill, only $1,368.36. I have given, Mr. Chairman, the bare facts in
the case. e -
Mr. SHERLEY. Are there any books that you get that the Public
Library or Congressional Library does not get?
Mr. RATHIBUN. There are some—
Mr. SHERLEY (interposing). They do not get every book that you
get'.
Mr. RATHBUN. No, sir. And it must be remembered also that the
scientific part, or the technical and scientific part of the Library of
Congress is made up largely of books which come from the Insti-
tution. *
Mr. SHERLEy. What I had in mind was the question of the need
of the binding by you of every pamphlet that may or may not have
a permanent value, or whether the Library of Congress ought not to
be the depository of all of the books, and that you ought to bind
just the few that there is some special reason for having in your
library. g
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Mr. RATHBUN. There is a special reason why the books we have
should be in our library, and there should be many more. The fact
is, that it is a question of proportion only, and not a question of
number, as compared with the Library of Congress. Forty thou-
sand volumes is nothing in the matter of proportion, although it
may sound like a good deal in itself. Recently we have turned away
or thrown away—we did not throw them away because we disposed
of them properly—at least 5,000 volumes. : ,
Mr. GILLETT. Why should they have been in your library'
Mr. RATHBUN. The books are used in the laboratories. We have a
central library where books of general reference are kept. The books
that relate to two or more subjects have to be there, but the rest are
in the laboratories. Each laboratory has the books relating to its
subject. . The mammal laboratory would have the books dealing
with mammals, books relating to birds would be in the bird labora-
tory, and in the business office there would come the books on the sub-
ject of administration and the Museum in general. As a matter of
fact, Mr. Sherley, the Museum is depending very strictly on the
Library of Congress for everything it has. The wagon from the
Library of Congress comes to the Museum twice a day and delivers,
maybe, one day a load of books and the next day only a few books.
Not only that, but the Department of Agriculture, the Geological
Survey, the Fish Commission are all depended on. We obtain for
our library only the books that we use and that are needed. Of
course, there is an occasional duplication, but to stop the duplica-
tion would cost a great deal more than the cost of the few pamphlets.
But it must be remembered that we do not buy books except to a
Small extent. Most of the books come to us as exchanges, gifts, etc.
Mr. SHERLEY. The first cost is not much, compared with the cost
of binding and the storage cost.
Mr. RATHBUN. The storage cost, of course, is provided for in con-
nection with the building. We use a cheap form of binding. We
use a substantial binding, but it is a cheap binding. We exercise a
most extreme economy in that. Another thing: In the Museum,
where, of course, the subjects are largely quite technical, our publi-
cations are bound to be more technical than popular, and we regulate
the editions accordingly. While you authorize the Museum to print
7,000 copies of its annual report, we generally print only about 5,000
copies; you authorize the printing of 4,000 copies of the proceedings,
but we print only about 2,800; of the bulletins, which really consist
only of the papers which are too large to go into the proceedings,
you allow the printing of 4,000 copies, and we may print from 1,800
to 2,800 copies. Once in a while, however, in the case of an exceed-
ingly popular work, like the volumes of Ridgeway’s Birds of North
and Middle America, we have printed 3,500 copies, of which we dis-
tributed about 2,500 copies on our mailing list and the rest are
mainly sent through requests from Congress. We have a regular
mailing list for every subject that we publish on, and that mailing list
is carefully prepared. When we come to print, and we print for some
20 mailing lists, we allow 25, seldom more, extra copies above each
mailing list. . - -
Mr. GILLETT. When you print a smaller number than Congress
allows, do you save any money from the appropriation, or do you use
up all of the appropriation?
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Mr. RATHBUN. That, Mr. Gillett, is a very hard question for me
to answer, because we receive no detailed accounts. We do not know
What happens to our appropriation, except as to final cost of items
in accounts from the Government Printing Office. This is all we
get—just these two items [indicating monthly statements], except
as mentioned. - . . -- -
The CHAIRMAN. You get a statement showing what you have
ordered, what it has cost, and what the balance is?
Mr. RATHBUN. Yes, sir. Of course, where we make editions
smaller, money must be saved on each publication, and, of course,
we can print more. There is no doubt but that we can make the
money serve for printing more matter.
Mr. GILLETT. I did not know but what you made more expensive
editions when you printed a less number. -
Mr. RATHBUN. No, sir. The annual report is bound, but the
other publications are not bound, except as to copies for use in the
Museum. We are using the ordinary paper both for text and for
plates that is selected by the Joint Committee on Printing. We
have, of course, nothing to say in the matter whatsoever.
Mr. GILLETT. How did you happen to expend so much more this
year than last year? - :
Mr. RATHBUN. Mr. Gillett, toward the end of the year our editor
almost lived at the Government Printing Office. Our relations with
the Government Printing Office are fine, and the editor managed
to keep them at work on our printing until they used up our money.
Mr. GILLETT. That does not explain it.
Mr. RATHBUN. As I understand it, and I would like to ask the
chairman if I am right or wrong, you are not making an appropria-
tion to the Museum of this money, but you are making an appropri-
ation to the Public Printer, and he may spend this amount for the
Museum. Is not that the fact? -
The CHAIRMAN. It is the same thing; you are authorized to have
a certain amount of printing done. -
Mr. RATHBUN. He will spend as much of our allotment as he can,
but our relations are always good, and we get fair play. -
Mr. GILLETT. Do you mean to say that you did not have more
printing done this year than last year, but that it cost a great deal
more money? - - -
Mr. RATHBUN. Unfortunately I have not the figures here.
Mr. MoRDELL. I think I can explain it. In the past as the end
of the fiscal year approached, not having a statement from the
Public Printer to the effect that they had anything left, or not hav-
ing a statement to the effect that they did not have anything left,
they had nothing printed, the result of which was that they would
have a balance left over when the statement came in at the end of the
fiscal year.
Mr. RATHBUN. When they make up the accounts at the beginning
of the next fiscal year, the Public Printer gives us a statement of our
accounts for the past year.
Mr. MONDELL. And now they keep a close watch on the work. .
Mr. GILLETT. You say that you have used all of your money except
about $6,000?
Mr. RATHBUN. That is the statement.
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The CHAIRMAN. The work you have sent there has cost so much
money. -
Mr. GILLETT. It has cost over $30,000 already.
Mr. RATHBUN. About $31,000, including estimates.
Mr. GILLETT. And at the same time last year you had gotten
through with $37,000?
Mr. RATHBUN. But we have had bills so far for only $3,800
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). You determine the character of your
work, do you not? You determine the kind of paper that shall be
used and the style of binding, do you not? In other words, you
estimate the cost of any publication you have made?
Mr. RATHBUN. Yes, sir; we determine it in a way. We are
limited, you know, by the Joint Committee on Printing, which de-
cides what can be used. They decide the kind of paper to be used
for text and plates and the kind of binding. They decide every-
thing, and you must keep inside of that.
Mr. MONDELL. Who desides that ?
Mr. RATHBUN. The Joint Committee on Printing of the House
and Senate. We are obliged to use extremely poor paper for plates,
and in that respect our results do not compare with those of other
establishments in this country. That is true simply because we can
not get any other quality, as the Joint Committee say we can not
have it. They say is costs too much, and, therefore, we must take
what the Public Printer furnishes.
Mr. MoRDELL. I do not quite understand you; we give you an
allotment of a certain amount of money, $10,000, for the report of
the Board of Regents, and you determine to print a certain number
of those volumes. Now, you can spend $10,000 for that purpose, and,
therefore, you can order from the Public Printer any kind of volume
that he can furnish you for that money, can you not?
Mr. RATHBUN. No, sir. - .
The CHAIRMAN. No; the Joint Committee on Printing determines
the character of the paper
Mr. MoRDELL (interposing). And the size of the book, the head-
ings, borders &
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). All of that is standardized,
Mr. RATHUN. Perhaps I can explain that to you Mr. Mondell.
if you will allow me. We have, under an executive order, what we
also had previously through our own initiative, a committee con-
sisting of the head experts in the Institution, and every paper sub-
mitted for publication goes through their hands. They must de-
cide whether the paper is something proper to be printed by the
Museum, and they do that for other branches of the Institution. No
paper is accepted for the Museum that does not bear upon Museum
collections, that is not descriptive of them; or does not pertain to the
Museum or is not descriptive of some things in the building, or,
occasionally, in other museum buildings by way of comparison, but
the latter kind are seldom received. There is the closest scrutiny
of every item, and we rarely print more than two-thirds of any
edition allowed us, generally less. These are issued in paper covers,
and are distributed to lists containing the names of men and estab-
lishments in your State and every other State, men and establish-
ments that are competent to make use of them and wish to have them.
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They are Sent to them as fast as they come out. We are simply
Serving an interest—a great board interest—with the greatest
economy we possibly can. You may cut the copies in two—I mean
you can cut the edition in two, and you can reduce the extent and
value of the publications, but Congress would interfere with us in
the matter Sooner than any other body. Our requests are mainly
from Congress. Our requests through Congress for information on
technical subjects are very numerous, but we can supply in each
branch to the extent of only 25 copies besides the specific number
printed to supply a definite list for a definite purpose.
SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1915.
IMPERIAL VALLEY, CAL.
STATEMENTS OF HON. FRANKLIN K. LANE, SECRETARY OF THE
INTERIOR; BIRIG. GEN. W. L. MARSHALL, CONSULTING ENGI-
NEER, RECLAMATION SERVICE; HON, WILLIAM KETTNER, A
REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALI.
FORNIA; AND MR. W. H. BEST, OF IMPERIAL VALLEY, CAL.
IPROTECTION AGAINST FLOODS OF THE COLORADO RIVER AND PROTECTION
OF YUMA, ARIZ., IRRIGATION PROJECT:
The CHAIRMAN. In House Document No. 1476 there is a commu-
nication from the Secretary of the Interior and this estimate:
Protection of lands and property in Imperial Valley, Cal. : For protecting
lands and property in the Imperial Valley and elsewhere along the Colorado
River, within the limits of the United Stº tes, against injury or destruction by
reason of the changes in the channels of the Colorado River, and the Secretary
of the Interior is authorized to expend any portion of such money within the
limits of the Republic of Mexico as he may deem proper in accordance with
Such a greements for the purpose as may be made with the Republic of Mexico,
$250 000.
Mr. Secretary, will you explain this situation?
Secretary LAN.E. Yes, sir; I can explain it in a very rough way.
You know that three years ago or four years ago $1,000,000 was
appropriated for the protection of these lands in what is known
as the Imperial Valley. That money was expended by putting
levees along the banks of the Colorado River south of the United
States line— - . -
The CHAIRMAN (interposing). In Mexico?
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir. That work was broken through.
The CHAIRMAN. Are these ſindicating] the levees?
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir; here is the proposed levee in red here
[indicating] and the ones that were built were built down on that side
ſindicating]. Now, last year we had a call from the people of the Im-
perial Valley for some help. They had already expended a consider-
able amount of money—I thing something approximating $30,000 up
to that date—and had exhausted their funds when they telegraphed
to me asking if there was anything that we could do. I found that
there was a balance of $50,000 of the old $1,000,000 fund that had not
been expended, and I had an allotment made by the President of
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that $50,000 for this work. Gen. Marshall was directed to proceed
down there and give those people such help as he could, or such as it
was possible to give. -
Mr. GILLETT. When was that? efº
Secretary LANE. This last year; in May. He went there and built
a sufficient amount of levee to at that time withstand the serious
floods that were impending. -
Now, my proposition is, as I have made it here, that the Govern-
ment, in cooperation with these people in the Imperial Valley, shall
undertake the further protection of their lands against overflow, and,
in doing that, in building such a levee as is proposed here—that is,
one running more east and west than the old levee and recognizing the
existence of a new channel—that we will not only protect these lands
against the great floods that come down in June and July, but that
We will be protecting our own Yuma project, which is just above the
international boundary line and on the east side. The estimate made
by Gen. Marshall is in the neighborhood of $430,000. . The plan sug-
gested by us was that the United States should stand one-half of the
expense and the valley itself should stand the other half. But it
should be stated here that this is merely a temporary matter, and I
believe that eventually the United States and Mexico together will
have to undertake some scheme by which the Colorado River will be
kept within bounds. Three years ago, or, perhaps, it was four years
ago, the United. States undertook to enter into a treaty with Mexico
dealing with that proposition, but the revolution came on in Mexico
and nothing has been done with the matter further.
The CHAIRMAN. Show me the situation on this map.
Secretary IANE. That ſindicating] is our side of the line, and this
[indicating] is the Imperial Valley. The old channel was down there
ſindicating], but that is now filled up with trees, shrubs, and Sand.
The new channel runs down here [indicating] into Volcano Lake,
and then by these other branches down here [indicating] the river
enters the Gulf. The plan is to extend an existing levee which runs
along here [indicating], so that this water can not overflow and come
down upon these lower lands, because all of these lands here [indi-
cating] are lower than the lands there [indicating].
The CHAIRMAN. All of this expenditure would be made in Mexico?
Secretary LANE. All of it would be made in Mexico. We did that
last year, and it is the only protection you can get.
The CHAIRMAN. What arrangements can be made with Mexico?
Will there be any trouble about that?
Secretary LAN.E. Last year we had this difficulty, that they would
leave their military duties and come down and feed their horses on
our oats, and their officers would help themselves when they desired
at our table, but, inasmuch as that was a period of intense feeling
down there, with nobody actually in control of that territory, that
seemed to be the most diplomatic way of dealing with the situation.
I suppose something of that kind would have to be done at present;
that is, make some arrangement with the officers in charge that we
may cross over and do that work.
The CHAIRMAN. These waters now go into Volcano Lake?
Secretary LAN.E. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And there is a levee on the north 3.
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir.
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The CHAIRMAN. Is it there that the danger of breaking exists?
Gen. MARSHALL. You will notice that both levees run out at the
Paredones River and Bayou Saiz, leaving a gap between. The gen-
eral Overflow water has always passed through this multitude of
sloughs between the Alamo or Imperial Canal and the Paredones
River, and the danger is that this overflow will go around the end of
the Colorado Development Co.'s levee and east of the Volcano Lake
Levee into the Alamo and New Rivers, scour out a channel there, and
then in time that the whole flood would go down into the Imperial
Valley. We want to close the gap between the two levees named.
hº GILLETT. How did that gap [indicating] happen to be left
there : g
Gen. MARSHALL. I do not know. The levees were built by the
Colorado Development Co. and by the Southern Pacific Railroad,
leaving a gap of several miles between their ends.
Mr. MONDELL. Why do you propose to abandon the Colorado De-
velopment Co. levee and build a new levee on the north side of the
Paredones River ?
Gen. MARSHALL. That Colorado Development Co. levee is on the
south side of the Paredones River, and if the levee should break
through within a few miles of the intake of the Imperial Canal the
overflow would be north of the Colorado Development Co.'s levee and
would be forced into the Imperial Canal or Alamo River with bad
results.
Mr. MoRDELL. Under present conditions is the Paredones carrying
any considerable amount of the water of the Colorado River ? -
Gen. MARSHALL. Every overflow passes some water into the Pare-
dones west of the end of the Colorado Development Co.'s levee.
The overflow takes place south of the Colorado Development Co.'s
levee and passes its ends. It flowed through this gap in 1914, be-
tween the ends of the two levees, and was stopped by landowners
by a dam at the westerly end of Arroya Saiz, at Beltran Slough.
Mr. MoRDELL. If it were a practicable thing to join with this old
Colorado Development Co. levee across the Paredones, then you
would have the benefit of that entire levee?
Mr. GILLETT. Don’t you propose to join them?
Gen. MARSHALL. No, sir. If they were joined and overflow was to
the northerly side of the Colorado Development Co.'s levee, by a
breach of the river front levees within say 7 miles south of the
Imperial Canal intake the water would be forced to go down into
Imperial Valley north of the continuous levee by way of the Im-
perial Canal and New Rivers. It is necessary that all overflow
water be forced to go to the Gulf of California south of the levee
and that the Alamo River and Imperial Valley be cut off from the
Colorado Delta. -
Mr. GILLETT. Is there any water in the Paredones River now in
dry times? -
Gen. MARSHALL. No, sir; but at flood the general overflow passes
into the Paredones around the end of the California Development
Co. levee. If a break occurred within 6 or 7 miles of the intake the
overflow would go into the Paredones, and if, then, the levee is put
on the south side of the Paredones, the water will go back into Im-
perial Valley, since it could not escape to the south. The Paredones
is a decayed channel of Small capacity now.
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Mr. MoRDELL. This is what you would abandon [indicating] if
you abandon the California Development Co. levee, and if you had
a break you would again have a shifting of the channel to the
Paredones? *
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; but the old California Development
levee would still subserve a good purpose by keeping water out of
the Paredones. The levee south of the Paredones (the California
Development Co.'s) if water got into the Paredones higher up would
deflect the waters into the Imperial Valley instead of into the Gulf
of Mexico. * - -
Mr. MoRDELL. If you should abandon this California Development
levee south of mile 8 and put the levee up north of the Paredones
IRiver, then, if you should have a break within 6 miles of the
intake
Gen. MARSHALL (interposing). In case of a break there [indicat-
ing] the waters would go back; they would turn south.
Mr. MoRDELL. Would the Paredone River then make a natural
channel to carry it off? - -
Gen. MARSHALL. It would for a part of the discharge. You know,
the word “Paredones” means “walls.” It got the name “Paredones”
from its high vertical walls, but it is of small capacity now, and its
channel obstructed with drift, and so forth.
Mr. GILLETT. How deep is it?
Gen. MARSHALL. I have never been on it. It has been a good deal
filled up. If we held on to that Colorado Development levee [indi-
cating], and if it should break anywhere within seven miles of the
Imperial Canal headworks, the water from the Colorado would
go into the . Paredones on the northerly side of the Colorado
Development levee [indicating] and, as you see, would go down
into Imperial Valley. -
Mr. MoRDELL. It has cost approximately $1,000,000 to put in the
levee that you propose to abandon? - *- r
Gen. MARSHALL. There have been several million dollars wasted
there. -
Secretary LANE. Is this levee down there [indicating] on the
south side the one that they put in Ž
Gen. MARSHALL. That is the Ockerson levee. That levee was
washed out before the river came within several feet of the bank-
full stage of the Colorado River near the Alejas break.
Mr. MoRDELL. This Colorado Development levee is the levee that
was put in by the receiver of the Imperial Valley concern ?
Gen. MARSHALL. They left open this gap between the two levees,
and this old channel of the Paredones River, which had been partially
filled up, passed through that gap, and when there was high water
in the Colorado River it backed up and overflowed the Paredones’
banks and submerged this country [indicating]. That is not a good
location for the levee at all. -
Mr. GILLETT. You say that if that levee should break through
here [indicating] the water would come down into the Imperial
Valley. Now, suppose you should build a new levee there?
Gen. MARSHALL. No levee comes all the way down; there is a
gap between the Colorado Development and Volcano Lake levees, and
the water would go down through that gap. If it broke the new
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levee, of course it would go into the Imperial Valley. If you will
read that report of mine, you will see that what I want to do is
to raise this Volcano Lake levee and carry it up until it overlaps
the end of the Colorado levee and joins onto the railroad road bed, so
that no water can come around the end of that levee at this time,
and then we will try to get the railroad to raise the embankment.
Mr. GILLETT. And make a levee of that?
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; make the embankment 4 or 5 feet high,
and connect the levee up to it. There is a fall of 25 feet from the end
of the Colorado development levee [indicating] down to the end of
the Volcano Lake levee as it now stands. There is a decline from
there [indicating] to there [indicating] of 25 feet. -
Mr. GILLETT. How far is it across from one levee to the other?
Gen. MARSHALL. The interval or gap is about 7 miles. If it
should come out across the end of the Colorado development levee,
after we extend the Volcano Lake levee, the water coming around
the end of that levee will have to run up hill in order to get around
the end of the extended Volcano Lake levee and into the Imperial
Valley, and water does not run up hill when free. The water com-
ing through the present interval would have to rum up hill in order
to get into the Imperial Valley, and all I want to do is to shove it off
in a southerly direction to flow into the Gulf of California and not
allow it to flow into Imperial Valley.
The CHAIRMAN. What would be the result if this water should
flow down into the valley? -- -
Secretary LANE. It would destroy from $20,000,000 to $30,000,000
worth of property.
Gen. MARSHALL. It would ruin over 2,000 square miles of land
down there, some arid public lands, and over 300,000 acres of lands
now cultivated. &
Mr. SHERLEY. Upon what theory ought we to do it?
Secretary LANE. I suppose, in the first place, that the theory upon
which the appropriation was made three years ago holds good to-day.
Mr. SHERLEY. What theory was that?
Secretary LANE. I do not know what theory that was unless it
was that we owed some protection to those people who are in the
Imperial Valley. Of course all of that land was our land and we
sold it. But I think there is another theory upon which it can be
very well done, and that is the protection of the Yuma project,
because if this water cuts back as it did in 1905 it may possibly
destroy the Layuna Dam, and with it the Yuma project which de-
pends upon that dam to divert its water supply at the effective level.
Mr. SHERLEY. Your irrigation engineers do not look upon the
danger to the Yuma project as very near.
Secretary LANE. You know what we have done there. We have
driven a lot of wings out from the levees so as to shunt the Water
off from us there and drive it over against the bank on the other side.
Mr. SHERLEY. At Louisville they have a dam for the improvement
of navigation in the river, and one end of the town, on the point,
1s under water every time there is a flood in the Ohio, but so far we
have never been able to convince the Federal Government that it is
incumbent upon them to take care of that land. There are a good
many people affected by it. I suspect there are more people there
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who are affected by that condition than there are in the Imperial
Valley. - -
Secretary LANE. I suppose that is only a temporary embarrass-
ment, but in this case it would mean the destruction of probably the
richest piece of land in this country. -
Mr. SHERLEY. That simply goes to the degree and not to the prin-
ciple. What I am trying to find out is the principle upon which you
base this proposed expenditure. -
Secretary LANE. Let us say that there are two principles involved.
In the first place, I should say that there is certainly an obligation
upon us to see that the Yuma project is not flooded; and, in the
second place, I should say that there is some obligation assumed
generally by the Government for the protection of adjoining lands
against inundation from overflowing streams. That certainly is
done on the Mississippi River. That work is done upon the theory
of protecting the navigability of the Mississippi, and I understand
that the people down there raise a considerable amount of money
themselves, which is supplemented by the United States, and they
put up levees and revetments for the protection of their lands.
While all of that is done under the constitutional provision regard-
ing navigable streams, it is not done purely and solely for the pro-
tection of navigable streams.
Mr. SHERLEY: However, if you urge the question of magnitude,
which you suggested a while ago, there might be a justification for
that work on the Mississippi that would not apply to this. The
Mississippi Valley, of course, drains most of the continent, or most
of the continent that belongs to the United States.
Secretary LAN.E. Does it not appeal to you that we have got to
do something with the Colorado River for the protection of our
own lands north of the Mexican line? Then, if the Colorado River
is going to be maintained as a navigable stream, we ought to protect
it as a navigable stream. ', ;
Should Congress see ſit to make an appropriation for this work, which I
earnestly hope will 1:e the case, I suggest the advisability of giving considera-
tion to a plan by which a cooperative fund, to be expended by the United
States, shall be made up of contributions from the United States Treasury and
from the Imperial Valley Irrigation district.
Secretary LANE. They have power to issue bonds. That district
has been given that power, and by a constitutional amendment
adopted at the last election in California, they can expend the pro-
ceeds of those bonds in doing work in Mexico. As I understand it,
ihey have issued some of those bonds and it is their purpose to put
up money with us on a dollar for dollar basis.
Mr. SHERLEY. Assuming that we should want to make this appro-
priation, would there be any objection to a provision in here to the
effect that it can only be expended when they have raised their part?
Secretary LANE. I do not know of any objection. e
The CHAIRMAN. The report upon which the President's message
in 1912 was sent to Congress refers to the fact that unless a full and
free agreement can be made with Mexico as to doing the work and
for the participation by Mexico in certain necessary parts of the
work, it would be unwise to do anything. Now, the question arises
as to whether the situation in Mexico is such that you can arrange
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the matters that will have to be adjusted before the work can be
begun? “. -
Mr. GILLETT. Is it navigable?
Secretary LANE. The War Department claims that it is.
The CHAIRMAN. In Mexico? t
Secretary LAN.E. Up as far as Yuma.
The CHAIRMAN. Where is that?
Secretary LANE. About 7 miles above the line.
Gen. MARSHALL. It has been navigated as far up as Calville, Nev.,
before the Southern Pacific Railroad reached the Colorado Wal-
ley—— -
The ÇHAIRMAN. But we have a dam at Yuma.”
Gen. MARSHALL. But there is navigation above there. In 1876
there was navigation up as high as Calville, a few miles below the
mouth of the Virgin River.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you propose any plan of cooperation with these
people in the Imperial Valley?
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir. We suggest that you make an appro-
priation of $250,000, but that would not be enough to do this work,
according to Gen. Marshall’s estimate, and they are to raise the
balance.
Mr. SHERLEY. Do you make the appropriation contingent upon
their raising their part of the money? -
Secretary LANE. I do not know whether it reads that way or not.
The estimate does not read that way, but my letter of transmittal
suggests that plan. -
The CHAIRMAN. You say in the letter of transmittal
Secretary LANE. I do not suppose that there is a definite enough
authority there to enable us to make an agreement with any kind of
Government, and the arrangement we would make would only be an .
arrangement with the military officers in charge of that territory.
The CHAIRMAN. To let us do the work? .'
Secretary LANE. To let us do the work.
Gen. MARSHALL. Last year I represented to the commanding
officer over in Mexico that this work was as necessary for Mexico as
for the United States, and I asked him, through Mr. Andrade, if
he would send a patrol to our camp once or twice a week and pre-
serve order in my camp. He gave his word that he would quell any
disturbance in the camp and that patrol came down there once or
twice a week. At first a good many Mexicans would stroll in there,
some of them on pretense of seeking work, and get means and feed
their horses when they had any, but after I got that patrol there was
never more than two men that came down there at a time from the
military camp, but at first quite a number annoyed us and kept the
white engineering force very uneasy.
Mr. GILLETT. Did you use Mexican labor there?
Gen. MARSHALL. We had to use it entirely. There was not a single
white man down there except the little engineering force and One
foreman interpreter that the people in the valley furnished.
The CHAIRMAN. How long would it take to do this work?
Gen. MARSHALL. That depends altogether upon whether the laws
of the United States and the departmental regulations governing
the expenditure of public money for such purposes are observed,
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or not. If we have to acquire rights of Way; make contracts under
the departmental regulations; we can not expend any of it before
the flood comes, but if there was authority to go down there and
pick up any force that could be got to do the work, it could be done
before the flood comes; that is, provided a sufficient force of men,
animals, and tools could be obtained.
Mr. GILLETT. When does the flood come? *
Gen. MARSHALL. It usually comes between the 10th and the last
day of June. It came on the 14th of June last spring. Of course,
I am referring to the crest of the flood, but the river begins to rise
º º The crest of the flood comes some time about the middle
OT ej Ull] 0. .
Mr. GILLETT. When ought you to have this work finished?
Gen. MARSHALL. It ought to be finished by the first of June, or
the latter part of May.
Mr. GILLETT. Would the water be so high about the first of June
as to prevent work?
Gen. MARSHALL. Not in all places. It would not take very long
to do the work recommended on the river front if the Southern
Pacific people would take a hand in it. . . .
Mr. GILLETT. And that is something you do not know about?
Gen. MARSHALL. No, sir; I do not know.
Mr. GILLETT. Would there be any advantage for them to do it?
Gen. MARSHALL. I do not know what proprietary rights they have
Over there—as far as I know the company’s interest is as a common
carrier—but the people generally think that they have a good deal
of property there.
Secretary LANE. Of course, they are interested in the protection of
those lands, because that railroad serves all of the Imperial Valley.
Gen. MARSHALL. That is one of the most productive areas in the
country, and the Southern Pacific has been the only common carrier
serving it.
The CHAIRMAN. The railroad company has a development com-
pany, has it not?
Secretary LANE. There is a company which is a separate institu-
tion, but it is promoted by the railroad company. -
Mr. GILLETT. The railroad has already spent a large sum of money
in protective work there?
ecretary LANE. Yes, sir; and it should be repaid, but it never
has been repaid. • *.
Mr. MoRDELL. The Imperial Canal Co., or one section of it, is a
Mexican company, is it not? -
Secretary LANE. There is a company on the other side that is a
Mexican company. There are two companies, but one of them has
nothing to do with the Imperial Valley. That is a group of men
headed by Harrison Gray Otis and
Mr. MoRDELL (interposing). I am not speaking of that company;
I am speaking of the Imperial Canal Co. It has a Mexican charter?
Secretary LANE. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. To protect its interests in Mexico. Now, there
would be no use for this Alamo Canal and diversion
Secretary LANE (interposing). You See, we are under obligations
to let the Mexican land owners have one-half of the water that is
diverted by this ditch.
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Mr. MoRDELL. I notice in your report that you suggest a levee that
will meet the Volcano Lake levee as it now stands and make a con-
nection between the present north end of the levee and the railroad
embankment. You state that that would complete the levee recom-
mended. - -
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; if the railroad were placed upon a 6-foot
embankment.
Mr. MONDELL. And you say further in your report that if that is
done—unless the protective levee is breached—you think that will
protect the valley for some time to come?
Gen. MARSHALL. It will protect it for several years. I think for
10 years or more, but other engineers think for a shorter time. Mr.
Randolph Says for one year or two. g
Mr. MoRDELL. If that is all that is necessary in order to make the
valley reasonably secure, could not the Imperial Valley people raise
$250,000 for that purpose themselves -
Secretary LANE (interposing). We plan that they shall raise ap-
proximately that much. It is the purpose that they shall raise
$250,000 and that we shall raise $250,000.
Mr. MoRDELL. But if I understand Gen. Marshall's estimate, he
assumes that the open gap can be closed, or that the Banquette re-
inforcement back of the Volcano Lake Levee and the extension of
the levee shall all be built with this $250,000.
Gen. MARSHALL. To make the extension as far as I can.
Mr. MONDELL. You have an estimate here on page seven in which
you estimate $431,450.
Gen. MARSHALL. That is the one.
Mr. MoRDELL. That is your estimate of what is necessary to be done
at this point? -
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; and of what it is necessary to do now.
The CHAIRMAN. Tell us about the proposed contribution of
$250,000 by the Imperial Valley people.
Gen. MARSHALL. I want to make one correction: Mr. Lane seems
to misunderstand me, because he said that this is to be temporary
work. I want to say that the work proposed here is primarily to
subserve a temporary purpose, but is proposed as part of a perma-
nent solution. That levee is absolutely necessary and must be com-
pleted. It does not make any difference what you do with the
Colorado River, that levee is necessary, and the work proposed now,
although the part now estimated upon is to serve during one flood, yet
it is to be built of permanent materials—stone and earth—and is to
be as permanent as any well-constructed levee, and is to form part
of the completed work. I mean that the levee is not of perishable
material.
Secretary LAN.E. My thought in that regard is this, and it touches
a good many of these western rivers: The only real and permanent
protection against flood waters in many of these western rivers is
to build reservoirs higher up so that the flood waters can be stored
and made use of. We have been spending money in the last few years
in attempting to discover reservoir sites and we have found one. We
hope in that way to be able to hold these flood waters and then use
them for irrigation purposes later.
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Mr. GILLETT. Is this whole project here dependent on the railroad
company combining with you? If so, and if you have no assurance
that they will combine with you t
Gen. MARSHALL (interposing). It is dependent this far, that if
we have to buy a plant it will require $100,000. It will require
$100,000 to buy a plant to do that work; so far as the revetment work
is concerned, we will have to have a railroad organization, locomo-
tive, cars, etc.
Mr. GILLETT. It seems that there are two entirely different things
that are dependent upon the action of the railroad company, and we
do not know what that will be. .
Gen. MARSHALL. The levee is not dependent on the railroad com-
pany. We are dependent on the railroad company for transporta-
tion for rock and stone for 12 or 14 miles to revet the banks. That
will require railroad transportation and quarry facilities, and we
can not get them anywhere except from the Southern Pacific Rail-
road. They are the only people who have that plant available in that
region, the only railroad, and if we have to buy that plant this work
can not be done. -
Mr. GILLETT. I do not see how we can determine what we should
do until we know what the railroad company is going to do.
Mr. SHERLEY. I notice here a letter from Epes Randolph that
seems to contemplate an expenditure of $2,000,000 by the Govern-
ment.
Secretary LANE. He has a different proposition.
Mr. MoRDELL. He wants to put the river back in its old channel.
Gen. MARSHALL. He wants to reclaim practically 600,000 acres
of overflowed lands here [indicating] from grazing lands and con-
vert them into irrigable lands. All that land is the property of
Americans, and if it were part of the territory of the United States
it would probably be reclaimed in some such way as Mr. Randolph
recommends. . * -
Now, this other design is to put the levee protection as far away
from the river as possible so that it can not be assaulted by the
river at all, and thus protect our lands from overflow in Mexico.
That is necessary under any project whatever in Order to protect
American lands and property; incidentally it protects about all
Mexican lands irrigated from the Alamo River or Imperial Canal.
Mr. MoRDELL. As a permanent proposition, what advantage is
there in that line over the new line by way of Bee River and Volcano
Lake, or what advantage has that line over the old channel?
Gen. MARSHALL. If you will look at this map of mine, you will
find that the sea level or tidewater extends in the Hardy–Colorado
to within eight miles of Volcano Lake, while on the old channel of
the Colorado it is about twice as far from the Abijas break to tide-
water, so that the river has a quicker descent and a more rapid cur-
rent to tidewater on the present course. It has absolutely lowered
the level about 6 feet here at mile 7. It is 6 feet lower now than it
was when the gap of 1905–6 was first closed. It does away with the
necessity of higher levees on the Yuma project if we keep it in that
channel now. The Yuma levees are 5 feet lower than the Colorado
Development levee. The river last year did not get within a foot
and a half of the top of the bank at mile. 7 Colorado Development
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levee. It did not come within a foot and a half of going over its
banks, when the break of 1905–6 was closed, the water stood four feet
against the levee.
The CIIAIRMAN. This expenditure of $430,000 would be on perma-
nent work? . -
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; entirely.
The CHAIRMAN. It would not be of any advantage to expend only
$250,000 there, would it?
Gen. MARSHALL. I want to explain that while eight miles of revet-
ment work should be done in all, in this estimate I only ask for three
miles. I estimate here for doing three miles of revetment work out
of the eight, leaving five miles still unexcuted. There is an estimate
to protect the stretch now visibly threatened and in danger.
The CHAIRMAN. If to do that three miles would require $430,000,
an expenditure of $250,000 would not accomplish anything, would it?
Secretary IANE. No, sir; not by itself. The $250,000 would not be
sufficient, and there is no reason why you should not put in there a
condition that the other $250,000 shall be raised by the Imperial
Valley people. -
The CHAIRMAN. What information have you as to the ability of
the Imperial Valley people to raise that money?
Secretary LANE. They have issued bonds.
The CHAIRMAN. What information have you as to their ability to
furnish that money in time to go on with the work?
Secretary LAN.E. Mr. Kettner is here and can inform you as to
that. . º &
The CHAIRMAN. What information is there that the people of the
Imperial Valley, or the Imperial Valley Irrigation Association or
District will be able to furnish their portion of this money in time
to have it expended with the Government's money? -
Mr. KETTNER. The Imperial Valley Association has already voted
$500,000 worth of bonds, which up to the present time they have
been unable to sell. Under the statutes of California, they can not
dispose of those bonds unless they get their par value, and until
they have their papers straightened up with the Colorado Develop-
ment Co.—because they also voted $3,000,000 worth of bonds to buy
that property—they will not be able to sell the $500,000 worth of bonds
to take care of this work. But they are making arrangements to
take care of this in the future, as I am informed by gentlemen who
have lived in the valley since it was first settled. I might say in
that regard that they have a very noted engineer there who agrees
with Gen. Marshall. I refer to Mr. Rockwood, the engineer of the
Imperial Valley Irrigation District, and I will read you his state-
ment, :
“I found the general condition of the overflow area much better than I
expected,” said Mr. Rockwood last night in an interview. “The heavy silts
Which have heretofore been deposited in Volcano Lake, with the result that
the bed of the lake fills itself up year after year, causing the necessity of
raising the protective levees higher, will this year be carried, in large part,
to the Gulf by the Bee River. The river has cut a deep channel which, while
not large enough to carry all the flood waters of the Colorado, yet will carry
a goodly portion of the silt-laden waters. The result is that the bed of the
lake will be slower in upbuilding and not come as high against the levees had
this channel not been opened. With the project work accomplished, the resi-
dents of the valley will have no cause for apprehension.”
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The CHAIRMAN. How about the money?
Mr. KETTNER. Mr. Chairman, I think they will find some way of
borrowing the money. They are in very bad shape this year, because
they have been growing cotton and are unable to dispose of it. The
banks have loaned to them up to the limit, but I think they will
find some way of raising the money. -
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose Congress should determine to recom-
mend an appropriation of $250,000, condition upon the contribution
of an equal sum by the people of that valley toward doing this par-
ticular work, what prospect is there that they will be able to comply
with their part of the arrangement?
Mr. KETTNER. In that connection I will state that there has been
introduced in the State Legislature of California a bill, which will,
to my mind, pass, authorizing them to borrow $200,000 on this
$500,000 worth of bonds, so as to enable them to take care of their
proportion of the amount that will be required to fix this levee.
The CHAIRMAN. Authorizing them to hypothecate the bonds in-
stead of selling them?
Mr. KETTNER. Yes, sir. -
Mr. Best and Mr. Rose, who are interested in the valley, are
present. - -
The CHAIRMAN. Let us have their opinion as to the ability of the
people to pay their share of this money. &
Mr. BEST. Mr. Chairman, there is really no question of their
ability to do it. The only question is as to their ability to do it in
time. They have voted the bonds to take care of it, but it may not
be that they will be able to sell them in time to do it this year.
However, our assemblyman is asking the legislature to pass a bill
allowing the district directors to borrow this money until they can
sell the bonds, and there is no question at all but that the legislature
will grant that authority. It is a matter that affects the Imperial
Valley and nothing else, and the bill will undoubtedly pass. There-
fore, as soon as they allow us to do that, or give us the legal right
to borrow this money, we will borrow the money to do the work with
and will sell the bonds to repay the loan.
Mr. SHERLEY. When does your legislature meet' ::
Mr. BEST. It is in session now. They are asking this as an emer-
gency measure. In the ordinary course of things we would not hear
from this in three or four months, but we are asking for it as an
>mergency measure
The CHAIRMAN [interposing]. If, this $430,000 is expended, will
it necessitate the expenditure eventually of about $800,000 more in
order to protect that expenditure?
Secretary LANE. I do not think it does; does it, Gen. Marshall?
Does it involve the eventual expenditure of $800,000 in addition?
Gen. MARSHALL. As I understand it, it does not call for any more
than Congress chooses to give. I think it is advisable to do all of
that work. . . ."
Secretary LANE. This will be adequate for the protection of the
valley, so far as you can see, for the next 10 years?
Gen. MARSHALL. This $430,000, with probably $160,000 more for
the revetment or these 5 miles will be adequate for the next 10 or
20 years, provided the railroad will raise its track.
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Mr. SHERLEY. But suppose they do not?
Gen. MARSHALL. There might possibly come a time when the
water would overflow them there and require a raising of part of
Volcano Lake levee. The railroad has no embankment there at all
now. The track lies on the ground, and the Water would go over
that track just as it would over a plain; in fact the railroad is not
on the highest natural ground. *
Mr. GILLETT. By doing this work, we would be really almost com-
pelling the railroad company, for its own preservation, to raise its
tracks, because we would be diverting water on their tracks?
Gen. MARSHALL. No, sir; not diverting water on their tracks, but
if the levee on the river front, just south of the intake, should break
there might possibly be an overflow of their tracks. If I owned
the railroad, I would raise that track very quickly. -
Mr. MoRDELL. If you do this work so as to protect the valley from
overflow, and in so doing pass the water down through Volcano
Lake, what would be the immediate danger of the breaching of the
protecting levee higher up 3 How great would the danger be of
breaching the protective levee higher up there ſindicating] }
Gen. MARSHALL. I do not think there would be any danger. .
Mr. MoRDELL. There are two real dangers present here all the
time; one is the danger of breaching the protective levee at or near
the head gates, or at Some point below the head gates; and the sec-
ond danger, which you are proposing to meet now, is from the water
flowing over into the valley after it gets in the vicinity of Volcano
Lake. Now, this Volcano Lake levee and its extension, if effective,
will keep the flow of the river in Volcano Lake and its present chan-
nel, and that being done, is there any immediate danger of a breach
of the levee at a point higher up 2 -
Gen. MARSHALL. The greatest danger
Mr. MoRDELL (interposing). Is there any immediate danger of a
breach at some point where it has been formerly breached ?
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir. To my mind the greatest danger, and
a danger that would be almost irreparable if it should take place,
would be a breach of the levee at any place here within this 8 miles
below the boundary. It broke in 1905 about midway of this stretch.
If it should break there, as you can see, the water would go into the
Alamo Canal, which is not a very long distance away. It is within
1,000 or 1,200 feet of the river there, and if it should cut into the
Alamo Canal the mischief would be almost irreparable. The river
caved back 300 feet in one night on the Arizona side in May last.
Mr. MoRDELL. That being the case, is not the immediate danger
more from a breach of the protective, dike somewhere in the vicinity
# !. Alamo Canal head gate than from an overflow from Volcano
2. Re . -
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; it is to my mind. -
Mr. MoRDELL. Then, why are you proposing to do work at Volcano
Lake rather than where the danger of a breach lies?
Gen. MARSHALL. Because we propose both, as far as necessary for
Safety for this one flood. I propose to revet 3 or 4 miles of this
bank, which is now a caving bank. Eight miles of that bank requires
revetment, and 3 miles of that work is now attached and is provided
for in this estimate, but the estimate is for work necessary now in
order to safely pass the approaching flood only.
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Mr. BEST. That work must be done.
Gen. MARSHALL. All of that work—7 or 8 miles—is necessary to be
done as soon as it can be done. That 8 miles, in my opinion, con-
stitute the key to the whole thing. I have not been able to get the
people of the Imperial Valley to see it, nor the people who spent this
$1,000,000 to see it. º • *
Mr. MoRDELI. That ought to be very plain to any man who knows
the situation.
Gen. MARSI:ALL. I have been working at that for 3 or 4 years,
and last year the river came very near going through there.
The CIIAIRMAN. If this work were done, what else would the
people of the Imperial Valley want? e
Mr. KETTNER. I think they would not expect Congress to do any-
thing more. r
Mr. BEST. There are some things lost sight of in this connection.
On page 72 of this report, No. 504, the engineers claim that if this
water is allowed to go down into the Salton Sink it will ruin
1,200,000 acres of Government land that will eventually be reclaimed
and cultivated, and it is also claimed that it will endanger the
Laguna Dam and Yuma project, which has already cost $4,000,000.
The CHAIRMAN. The Reclamation Service does not think that.
Mr. BEST. I am president of all the water companies in the valley,
and I know if we are protected now we will be in a condition to
take care of ourselves, and we will ask no further protection from
the Government. This is an emergency of time and of protecting
us now more than anything else, but from now on we can take care
of ourselves.
Mr. SHERLEY. What do you mean by an emergency of time?
Mr. BEST. As I said before, it is due to our inability to raise this
money in time to do this work now.
Mr. SHERLEY. But you are figuring on raising half of it within
the time? -
Mr. BEST. Yes, sir.
Mr. SHERLEY. Why couldn’t you raise the other half of it within
the same time?
Mr. BEST. We have no absolute assurance that we can get that
half in time, but we are satisfied that we will get it. Two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars spent in the next two or three months will
protect us until we can get it. *
Mr. SHERLEY. Couldn’t you get $500,000 as easily as you can get
$250,000?
Mr. BEST. No, sir; I do not think we could. We have only
$500,000 worth of bonds voted, and you can not sell them at their
face value. We are now asking the State legislature to amend the
law so that we can borrow $200,000. If we are willing to agree to
protect ourselves and the Government’s property as well on work
for which the estimates are $1,500,000
Mr. SHERLEY (interposing). What guarantee will we have of all
that?
Mr. BEST. The only guarantee we have is the record here
Mr. SHERLEY. That is no guarantee at all. We have learned in
this committee that legislative promises bind nobody, and that holds
true, particularly and conclusively as to the State of California,
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 975
because we have made an appropriation of $1,000,000 on the prom-
ises of the State which have not been kept. -
Mr. BEST. I do not know how we can guarantee it, but if you will
tell us how, we will try to arrange it. \
Mr. SHERLEY. Mr. Secretary, where are the Government lands
spoken of here that are going to be protected by this expenditure?
Secretary LANE. Just on that lire here [indicating]. There is the
Mexican line [indicating], and that land there [indicating] belongs
to the Yuma project. -
Mr. SHERLEY. I do not mean the Yuma project.
Secretary LANE. The land that is indicated in blue here, approxi-
mately; and then there is a large tract right over here [indicating].
I think I have suggested in this letter that if you will give us author-
ity We can sell Some of those lands in here at auction. It could be
irrigated by a high canal, and we could probably sell them for quite
enough to reimburse you. .
Mr. MoRDELL. But very little of that land indicated in blue is
below the breach line.
Secretary LANE. I had some figures made on it.
Gen. MARSHALL. There are 109,000 acres of land under the Eastern
High Line Canal; some of it Government land.
Secretary LANE. Is there any land on this side of the high canal
[indicating] belonging to the Government?
Mr. KETTNER. There are 25,000 acres below this line that you pro-
pose to sell.
Secretary LANE. If this canal is extended here, there is a lot of
land on this side ſindicating] indicated in blue that will be taken in.
Mr. MoRDELL. But the land marked in blue, or very little of it,
would not be affected by anything that would happen to Imperial
Valley. -
Secretary LANE. Twenty-five thousand acres would be affected.
Gen. MARSHALL. The elevation here [indicating] is about 38 feet
above sea level. There are some lands marked in blue beyond the end
of the high line canal that might be irrigated by enlarging and ex-
tending that canal. -
Mr. KETTNER. There is another thing to be borne in mind, and
that is that these people have built this ditch and by reason of that
the Government will be able to sell this land at $10 per acre to
reimburse the Government, although the land was not worth 1 cent
per acre before this was built.
Mr. BEST. During the fall of 1896 the river cut a channel through
here [indicating] about 6 miles below the line, and it was cutting
back at the rate of half a mile a day, and I do not know what there
rºl be to hinder it from cutting back and ruining the Laguna
&II).
Mr. GILLETT (interposing). We took that up with the engineers
of the Reclamation Service. -
Mr. MoRDELL. The only place on the upper river there is 3 miles
of revetment? t
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir.
Mr. MoRDELL. Do you think that is the most important part of
the work?
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Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir. I think probably that if a break oc-
curred in the first 8 miles that nearly all the whole flow of the river
would go into the Salton Sea. If this Volcano Lake ever breaks,
under no possiblitiy will more than a fourth of the discharge go
into the Salton Sea, because that is right on the divide. The natural
flow is southward via Howdy, Colo., and northward via New River.
Water from Volcano Lake separated and run both ways at flood.
We have cut off the outlet into New River. -
Mr. MoRDELL. There is this important fact: If the protected canal
breaks down here [indicating] and washes back to the Government
project .#
Gen. MARSHALL (interposing). No, sir; it will start back here
[indicating] along New River.
Mr. MoRDELL. It would begin very much sooner than if there was
a break at Volcano Lake? •
Gen. MARSHALL. No, sir; but would be more rapid and intense,
due to more Water.
Mr. MoRDELL. But you have only proposed to spend $120,000 of
the money at that point [indicating] }
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir. .
Mr. MoRDELL. That is all you would spend of the $250,000 now
at that point? -
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; but you must remember that of the 24
miles 4,500 feet were revetted last spring—nearly a mile. I have esti-
mated for only what I think in danger during the flood of 1915.
That was my instruction. The full estimate had been made here-
tofore. -
Mr. MoRDELL. How much more of the upper portion that you
consider dangerous would require protection after you had revetted
the three miles which you have indicated?
Gen. MARSHALL. About 4% miles.
Mr. MoRDELL. If you are going to put that entire line on the upper
river in condition it would amount to about $40,000 a mile for 7
miles?
Gen. MARSHALL. Yes, sir; out of the eight. I want to explain, if
I can, that for 14 miles below Yuma down to mile 8, that river since
1871—I can remember back that far—for 43 years has been of nearly
fixed regimen. It was so permanent when they built the levee that
they were located so that from the levee on the California side over
to the levee on the Arizona side is only 1,200 to 1,500 feet. For that
lower 7 miles the river held without caving until about four years
ago. If the part that has not yet caved remains fixed as it has for 40
years, it will be all well and good. If it ever begins to cave like it
did last year when it caved for a mile and a half, it would be
very serious. -
Mr. GILLETT. Is the levee right on the bank?
Gen. MARSHALL. The river is right at the base of the levee for
3 miles. This is the portion for which I estimated $120,000 to
revet this year.
Mr. MoRDELL. If there was a break in that levee the Government's
works below the Yuma Dam would be in jeopardy in a very short
time? -
Gen. MARSHALL. Not at all. It would not hurt the Government
works below the Yuma Dam at all, except by cutting back. If it
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cuts back 80 feet or 40 feet deep up to the Yuma Dam it would
take it out, but so far as the overflow of the Government Yuma.
project is concerned it would not overflow any, but the project would
fail from failure of water-supply canals.
Mr. MoRDELL. If it cut back there would not be as much overflow
as now, but there would be eventually? -
Gen. MARSHALL. That is the theory. I have never been satisfied
in my own mind that there would be any injurious cut back at all
from any breach in the Volcano Lake Levee. It was cutting right
straight back forlowing New River toward Volcano Lake.
Mr. MoRDELL. But I am not speaking of a break down there, but
at this point [indicating]. - •
Gen. MARSHALL. I am speaking about the same thing. It broke
in 1905 and cut back from 40 to 80 feet deep, cut back up New River
Barranca toward Volcano Lake. All the cutting was on New River
up toward Volcano Lake. If the cutting changed from along New
River to along the Alamo River, the matter might become very
serious unless the crevasse leading into the Alamo were promptly
closed, but I have no fear as to cut backs via New River, Volcano
Lake, and, none whatever !—the danger would be in a cut back
via the Alamo or Imperial Canal—which might possibly result in
the destruction of the Laguna Dam, if not attended to in due time.
Of course, if such breach were not promptly closed Imperial Valley
would be entirely submerged in a few years also, or both projects
be destroyed, but all these matters are surmises. There will be
means found for prevention or cure before such results will be
allowed to show up.
HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING.
MAINTENANCE.
-- WASHINGTON, D. C., December 19, 1914.
The HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING COMMISSION.
GENTLEMEN: I respectfully request the commission to secure an
º for the maintenance of the House Office Building for
the fiscal year 1916. The appropriation required should be $45,712,
the same as the amount appropriated for the fiscal year 1915.
I attach here with for your information a detailed statement of the
help required, upon which will be found a further item for mainte-
nance and supplies amounting to $6,000, which is, of course, for
general repairs throughout the building and for the purchase of the
necessary cleaning tools and other implements, as well as for material
for repairs to heating and ventilating.
Respectfully,
. . ELLIOTT WOODs,
Superintendent United States Capitol Building and Grounds.
Maintenance, House Office Building.
1 custodian, at $200 per month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $2,400
1 assistant, at $120 per month----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,440
2 clerks, at $100 per month each...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,400
I messenger, at $75 per month--------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 900
1 carpenter, at $80 per month......... . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 960
1 painter, at $80 per month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 960
1 electrician, at $120 per month........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,440
72785–15—62
978 SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916.
l electrician's helper, at $60 per month. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $720
2 attendants to the heating System, at $75 per month each. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,800
1 machinist (4 months), at $133 per month. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 532
8 toilet men, at $50 per month each. ------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4,800
7 laborers, including window washer, at $40 per month each. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3, 360
1 laborer in charge of Subway, at $60 per month........................... . . . . 720
5 toilet Women, at $40 per month each. ------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,400
1 forelady of char force, at $40 per month . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 480
60 charwomen, at $20 per month each. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14,400
salaries…~~~~ 39,712
For maintenance, contingent expenses, and supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,000
Total.------------------------------------------------------------- 45,712
Approved.
CHAMP CLARK,
JOHN J. FITZGERALD,
JAMES R. MANN.
CAPITOL POWER PLANT.
MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.
- WASHINGTON, D.C., December 22, 1914.
The Hous E OFFICE BUILDING COMMISSION.
. . GENTLEMEN: The Capitol power plant being under the jurisdiction
of the House Office Building Commission, I beg to submit here with
estimates for the operation of the plant for the fiscal year 1916.
CAPITOL Power PLANT: For lighting the Capitol, Senate and House Office Build-
ings, and Congressional Library Building, and the grounds about the same, Botanic
Gardens, Senate stables and engine house, House stables, Maltby Building, and
folding and storage rooms of the Senate; pay of superintendent of meters, at the rate
of $1,600 per annum, who shall inspect all gas and electric meters of the Government
in the District of Columbia without additional compensation; for the necessary per-
sonal and other services; and for materials and labor in connection with the mainte-
nance and operation of the heating, lighting, and power plant and Substations con-
nected therewith, to be expended by the Superintendent of the Capitol Building and
Grounds under the supervision and direction of the commission in control of the
House Office Building, appointed under the act approved March 4, 1907, $90,000.
- FUEL, OIL, AND WASTE.
For fuel, oil, and cotton waste and advertising for the power plant which furnishes
heat and light for the Capitol and congressional buildings, $82,924.72, as per detailed
estimate here with: -
25,000 tons of coal, at $3.25 per ton. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $81,250.00
50 cords pine wood, at $7.50 per cord. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 375. 00
2,000 pounds cotton waste, at 15 cents per pound... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - 300. 00
200 wiping rags, at 12 cents each. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 24. 00
1 barrel (361 pounds) No. 2 A. C. grease, at 5% cents per pound... . . . . . . . . 18.96
12 barrels (612 gallons) coal oil, at 10% cents per gallon. . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - 64, 26
10 barrels § gallons) cylinder oil, at 65 cents per gallon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 331, 50
2 barrels (102 gallons) lard Oil, at $1 per gallon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .9- - - 102, 00
30 barrels (1,530 gallons) turbine oil, at 30 cents per gallon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 459. 00
Total.--------------------------------------------------------- 82,924. 72
Very respectfully,
ELLIOTT WooDs,
Superintendent United States Capitol Building and Grounds.
Approved. e
CHAMP CLARK.
JOHN J. FITZGERALD.
JAMES R. MANN.
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL, 1916. 979
COMMISSION ON INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS.
* WASHINGTON, January 29, 1915.
DEAR SIR: Replying to your request of the 25th instant, I have to
submit the following data covering the number of days given by each
member of our commission to the work of the commission as repre-
sented by the payments on our books, and also the amount of sub-
sistence expense paid to each member. This is all based on the
calendar year ending December 31, 1914. -
Mr. Ballard, 119 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tº £º gº. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1, 190
- Subsistence-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3.42-3------------------------- 364
Mr. Delano, 39 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - F. se- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 390
Subsistence----------------. . . . . . . . . . 3 *---------------------... 217
Mr. Commons, 182 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1, 820
Subsistence. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .*-*-**#:------------------------- 777
Mr. Garretson, 76 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------ * * * * * * * * * * s sº as s as a s = s. s = as sº e s as sº 760
subsistênce......... . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 ſ. 3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Mrs. Harriman, 249 days..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . t;-(; ;--------------- - - - - - - - - - 2,490
M º* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 203
Mr. Lennon, 349 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '- - - - - * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,490
Subsistence--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (, Zºº II. 1, 897
Mr. O’Connell, 330 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .*** ---- *** - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3,300
Subsistence-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . j Ž. f 3.5- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 856
Mr. Walsh, 226 days. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - + --S------------------------ 2, 260
Subsistence....................... *...*.*........................ 1, 659
Mr. Weinstock, 150 days. . . . . . . - - - - - - - -# * : * * 3. *----------------------- 1, 500
Subsistence. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . # - - tº .*.*....…..... 613
As explained over the phone, we have instructed the head book-
keeper in our main office at Chicago to give us the amount of trans-
portation expense incurred by each member, and will send you that
information the moment that it is received here.
Assuring you that we will at all times be glad to furnish all possible
information and data concerning our commission, we remain,
Respectfully,
FRANK. P. WALSH,
By R. S. B.
P. S. Since writing the above we have received the attached tele-
gram from Mr. W. L. Soleau, our head bookkeeper and disbursing
officer. We have replied to Mr. Soleau by wire instructing him to
prepare a table giving the amount of traveling expense of each
Commissioner, as requested by your committee, and have urged
him to hurry forward the data. .
Hon. JoEIN J. FITZGERALD,
Chairman Committee on Appropriations,
House of Representatives, Washington, D. C.
*.
CHICAGO, ILL., January 29, 1915.
R. S. BRENNAN,
928 Southern Building, Washington, D. C.:
Impossible to furnish at once amount of traveling expense incurred by each com-
missioner as required by Committee on Appropriations. You should explain that
the costkeeping for the commission is so arranged as to show costs of projects instead
of individuals. To arrange statement showing costs of transportation of individual
members of commission or collectively requires new analyses of vouchers, which can
not be made in less than five days. If the committee is willing to wait a complete
Statement can be furnished.
W. L. SolIAU.
INDEX.
981
A.
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Abandoned reservations, survey of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------------- 644
Abbot, C. G., statement of . . . . . . . . . . : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 291
Aberdeen, Wash., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 38
Acker, W. B., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 677
Adams, Franklin, statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 925
Agriculture, Department of, printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 915
Alaska: e - -
Coast Surveys on. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 519, 528
Education in. ---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7- - - - - - - - - - - - - 709, 713
Fisheries and fur-seal service—
Employees. ------------------------------------------------. . . . 585, 588
General Service, supplies, etc.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600
Fur-seal islands— .'
Buildings. --------------------------------------------------. 614
Cold storage. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 614
Vessel, officers and crew. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * = • * * * * * = * * * * * * * * * * * 593
Game, protection of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 706
Insane, care of.------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . 705
Liquor traffic, suppression of... . . . . . . . . 's e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 707
Medical relief to natives. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * 709, 713
Mine inspector—
Pay of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * ~ * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 675
Clerk to. . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * sº se s = < e º ºs º is as a mº e = * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * * 675
Mineral resources of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 649
Railroad in . . . . . . . . . • - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 746
Reindeer for----------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 711
Albany, Oreg., post office . . . . . . . . . '• = • = • - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 38
Albion, Mich., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * = • * * * * * * = , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 38
Alcatraz Island, immigration station at....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ‘. . . . 871
Aleshire, J. B., statement of...... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = • = * * * * * = 378
Alexandria, La., post office, etc.: s
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '• * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * 39
Rent of quarters at. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * 39, 114
Alliance, Nebr., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39
Alliance, Ohio, post office....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - 39
Allotted lands:
Five Civilized Tribes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 787
Seminoles in Oklahoma. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 791
Amarillo, Tex., post office and courthouse...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39
American Prison Association, expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 832
American Republics, Bureau of, printing and binding . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 925
Anacostia River, reclaimed land, transfer to Government Hospital for the Insane. 733.
Anderson, J. F., statement of.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 177
Angel Island immigration station, transfer to Alcatraz Island. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 871
Annual reports:
Attorney General's decisions in re. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 895
Comparison of volume and cost of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 895
Anoka, Minn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * 40
Antietam battle field.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Antigo, Wis., post office. . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 40
Antitrust laws, enforcement of:
Attorneys, employment of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 774–784
Employees in Washington.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 773
Labor or farmers’ Organizations, exemptions of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 784
Prosecutions instituted, concluded, or pending. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 770
Appliances for soldiers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 464
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982 INDEX.
Page
Appraisers of customs, Board of, expenses of witnesses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 753
Ardmore, Okla., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
Arkadelphia, Ark., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40, 119, 128
Arkansas City, Kans., post office---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
Arlington Cemetery, burials in from District of Columbia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Arlington Memorial Amphitheater. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 451
Armorias and arsenals:
Benicia, Cal., Arsenal—
Fire protection--------------------------------------------------- 351
Storehouse at----------------------------------------------------- , 347
Water supply. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 350
Field Artillery, ammunition, manufacture of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 374
Frankford Arsenal—
Boiler plant increasing-------------------------------------------- 354
Double-action press shop building, extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 353
Land, additi hal-------------------------------------------------- 355
Lumber shed, extension--------. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 353
Tin shop--------------------------------------------------- - - - - - - 352
Machinery for-------------------------------------------------------- 371
Picatinny Arsenal, additional land. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 356
Proving Ground, Sandy Hook, N. J.:
Firing range, grading of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 362
Railroad trestle, filling. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 863
Stable---------------------------------------- '• - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 364
Storehouse--------------------------------------------------------- 362
Repairs and improvements.-------------------------------------------. 371
Rock Island Arsenal— -
Arsenal building, repairs to----------------------------------------- 359
Boiler house, coal bins, and coal-hoisting apparatus.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 360
Bridge, repairs to. . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 358
#; and viaduct, operating, care, etc....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 361
Field Artillery ammunition plant........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 373, 374
Fire protection, increasing--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 356
Power plant, maintenance and operation............... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 361
Road, repairs to--------------------------------------------------- 357
Shop H, repairs to, reappropriation............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 359, 373
Small-arms cartridge plant.---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 374
Storehouse for oils, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 358
Storehouse in connection with Field Artillery manufactures. . . . . . . . . 373
Springfield Arsenal, Mass.— tº
Coal bins and conveyors-------------------------------------------- 365
Fire protection and brick vault. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 367
Power plant-------------------------------------------- * * = * * * * * * * * 368
Street, repairs.---------------------------------------------------- 366
Watertown Arsenal, Mass.—
Smith shop, new roof.---------------------------------------------- 368
Testing machines. ------------------------------------------------ 369
Watervliet, N. Y. —
Boring and turning lathes----------------------------------------- 370
Fire protection--------------------------------------------------- 370
Gun shop, lights in. ---------------------------------------------- 369
Power plants, increasing------------------------------------------ 369
Army (See also War Department):
Admission of men to National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers. . . . . . 496
Back pay and bounty claims..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 501
Barracks and quarters. (See Military posts.)
Points of enlistments---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 383
Purchase of supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 383
Arnold, J. A., statement of.------------------------------------------------- 915
Arrears of pay, War with Spain...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 502
Arsenals. (See Armories and.)
Artificial limbs------------------------------------------------------------ 462
Arts Commission------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Ashland, Ky., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
Assistant Secretary of Treasury. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 93, 119, 192,258
Astrophysical Observatory... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 293
Atlanta, Ga., Penitentiary: Page.
Clothing, transportation, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 839
Construction of-------------------------------------------------------- 828
Foremen, tailor, etc.----------------------------------------------. . . . . 840
Hospital supplies------------------------------------ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 839
Miscellaneous expenses--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 839
Salaries------------------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 840
Subsistence----------------------------------------------------------- 838
Atlantic coast, surveys on-----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 511
Attleboro, Mass., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
Attorneys: w - * g -
Antitrust laws, enforcement---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - * * * * * * * * * * 774–784.
Attorney General, special assistants---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 809
Claims against the United States, defense. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754
Customs cases, conduct of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 747
District attorneys and their regular assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 809
District attorneys, Special assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 809
Five Civilized Tribes, suits to set aside conveyance of lands. . . . . . . . . . . . . 789
Indian depredation claims, defense. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 757
Pacific Railroad cases. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - 797.
Seminole lands, suits affecting. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 792
Auditors’ Building: -
Mechanical equipment. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 148
Power plant, increased boiler capacity. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87, 173
Repairs to------------------------------------------------------------- 140
Auditor for War Department. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . < - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50L
Augusta, Ga., posſ office and courthouse (new). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4l
Aurora, Nebr., post office-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
B.
Babbitt, E. B., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 346
Back-pay and bounty claims... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - 501
Bailiffs of courts------------------------------------------------------------ 821
Bainbridge, Ga., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * * ~ * * * * * * ~ * 4l
Baity, J. L., Statement of.------- * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50].
Baker, Frank, statement of.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 291
Baker Lake, Wash., fish station, reconstruction of hatchery and barn... . . . . . . . 615
Bakersfield, Cal., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------ -- - - - 41
Baltimore, Md., immigration station.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - 42
Bangor, Me., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 42
Bank examiners----------------------------------------------------------- 762
Bank notes. (See Engraving and printing.) -
Barnesville, Ga., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - 42
Barracks and quarters. (See Military posts.)
Bartow, Fla., post office---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42
Batavia, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 42
Battle Mountain Sanitarium. (See National Soldiers’ Homes.) -
Bayer, Hector Won, statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 57].
Beardstown, Ill., post office. --------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
Bedford, Pa., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
Beene, R. O., statement of.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 875
Belton, Tex., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
Benecia, Cal., Arsenal:
Fire protection. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 351
Storehouse at . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 347
Water supply----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350
Berkeley, Cal., post office---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
Bertholf, E. P.; statement of.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 183
Best, W. H., statement of.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 961
Bielaski, A. B., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 754
Birmingham, Ala., mine rescue station, extension, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 669
Birthplace of George Washington.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Blackwell, Okla., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 43
Blue, Rupert, statement of................ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 269
Board of General Appraisers, expenses of witnesses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 753
Board of Mediation and Conciliation.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 332
Boiler Inspection Service............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 317
984 • INDEX.
Page
Bonds of United States, conversion of 2 per cent into 3 per cent bonds or notes. 233
Boothbay Harbor, Me., fish station, vessel for. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 596
Boston, Mass.: - .
Appraisers' stores. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 44
Customhouse, payment to Peabody & Stearns. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 156
Fisheries agent at . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 583
Bounty claims------------------------------------------------------------- 501
Boys' Reform School. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 842
Bozeman, Mont., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
Branch Soldiers’ Homes. (See National Soldiers’ Home.)
Brattleboro, Vt., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
T}reckinridge, Henry S., statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 401
Brenham, Tex., post office---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
Brett, L. M., statement of.--------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 414,677
Brinker, J. H., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 875
Brooklyn, N. Y., post office, electric current............................ - - - - - 169
'Broughton, W. S., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .º: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 192
Brown, Wrisley, claim of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------- 765
Bryan, Tex., post office. . . . . - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . . . 44
'Bubonic plague. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------- 283
Buell, H. L., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 421
Buell, W. E., statement of............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------ 192
Buffalo, Wyo., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
$3uildings and grounds in and around Washington: -
Arlington Memorial Amphitheater... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... • * * * * * * 451
Capitol Grounds, care of . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . 444
Commission of Fine Arts. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Engineer---------------------------------------------------------- . . . 444
Engraving and Printing Building (new), sidewalks, curbs, etc. . . . . . . 87, 137,426
Executive department grounds, care, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 443
Executive Mansion. (See Detailed index under this caption.)
Fences, construction and repair. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - 426
Garfield Park, new lodge in............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 437
Grant Memorial, unveiling..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 450
Greenhouses and nursery— ... ?
Care of.---------------------------------------------------------- 425
Repair and reconstruction of . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - s = * * * * * * * * * * * 425
Grounds South of Executive Mansion, improvement and maintenance. . . . . 425
Judiciary Park— -- -- - -
Care of.---------------------------------------------------------- 427
Roads, walks, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ‘s e º a s 436
Laborers in parks, pay of.----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . 444
Library of Congress, grounds, care of... . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 443
Lighting grounds and heating lodges..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 446
Lincoln Memorial, construction of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 451
Meridian Hill Park, improvement of.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 433
Montrose Park, improvement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 435
Mount Vernon Park, care and maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 442
National Museum, additional water supply.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 443
Outdoor sports, facilities for.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430
Pennsylvania Avenue, Second, and Seventeenth Streets S.E., center
Parking------------------------------------------------------------- 439
Petworth, improvement of triangles................ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4.38
Potomac Park (east)—
Care and improvement.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . 429
Roadway around------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 429
Potomac Park (west)— -
Boathouse in, new.-----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 438,440
Easby's Point sewer...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 438
Grading, seeding, roads, paths, etc............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 427
Sea Wall on river side, moving out . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 438
Shelters in..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - 436
Propagating gardens, wagon shed at . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------- . 442
Rawlins Park, improvement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 437
Reservations—
Care, improvement, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 427
Walks in--------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 427
INDEX. - 985
Buildings and grounds in and around Washington—Continued.
Roads: . * -- Page.
Broken stone covering for.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 427
Curbing for-------------------------------------------------------- 427
Oiling or otherwise treating. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 428
Smithsonian grounds, care of.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 427
Telegraph from Capitol and departments. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 446
Washington, George, birthplace of..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Washington Monument. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
West Executive Avenue, Sewer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 444
Willow Tree Park, care and maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '- - - - - - 44l
Bureaus. (See names of).
Burke, John, statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . 192
Burlington, N. C., post office.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
Burman, Maurice, payment to... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 868
Butler Building:
Mechanical equipment....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
Repairs to. . . . . . . . . . -* = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 88, 137
- C. :
Cadillac, Mich., post office............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
Cady, J. B., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 908
Caldwell, D. D., Statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ----- 754
California, bubonic plague. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 283
California Débris Commission. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 456
Camden, S. C., post office.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
Caminetti, A., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 851
Canada, immigration from........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 860
Canton, Ill., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 45
Canton, Miss., post office. -----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
Capitol Building and Grounds: -
Fire engine house and Senate stables. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 933
General repairs-------------------------------------------------------- 927
Grounds: -
Care and improvement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 930
Extension of, removal of buildings, grading, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 933
Plaza, paving and resurfacing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 931
Statuary for pediment of House wing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 929
Steps on east approach-------------------------------------------------- 927
Steps on West approach. ------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 928
Terraces, resurfacing, reappropriation for......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 933
Trees, shrubs, etc ------------------------------------------------------ 444
Works of art, cleaning and repairing.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 930
Capitol power plant:
Connection with Coast Survey buildings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 562
Fuel, oil, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------- 978
Maintenance and operation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------- 978
Caribou, Me., post office....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
Carnegie, Pa., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
Carriers:
Accounts, examination of.------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 308
Valuation of property of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 327
Cartersville, Ga., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
Casa Grande ruin, improvement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 700
Catalogue of Scientific Literature, International. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 292
Cemeteries. (See National.)
Central Branch, Soldiers' Homes. (See National Home.)
Certification of commercial experts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 626
Chadron, Nebr., post office. -------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
Chambers, W. L., statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 332
Chance, M. O., statement of................ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 926
Chanute, Kans., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
Charles City, Iowa, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 47
Chattanooga, Tenn., post office and courthouse (extension). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47
Chicago, Ill.: d
Naturalization service, rent for..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 873, 874
Oakwood Cemetery, Confederate mound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 398
Chickamauga and Chattanooga Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 401
986 - INDEX.
IPage
Chico, Cal., post office------------------------------------------------------ 47
Chillicothe, Mo., post office......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 47
China, monuments in------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 398
Chinese exclusion acts, enforcement of.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 863
Civil Service Commission, printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... = * * * * * * * * * * * 903
Civil War, peace celebration of close of, Vicksburg, Miss. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 404
Clackamas, Oreg., fish station, additional laborers.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , 591
Claims:
Arrears of pay, War with Spain....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502
Back-pay and bounty--------- . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - 501
Defending suits in, against United States. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754, 757
Clark, H. C., statement of.---------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 343
Claxton, P. P., statement of.------------------------------------------------ 709
Clerks of courts, fees.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • = • * * * * * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 818
Close, Fred J., statement of.-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . 474
Coal, testing of, for Government---------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 659
Coast Artillery barracks. (See Military posts.)
Coast and Geodetic Survey:
Accountant------------------------------------------------------------ 561
Alaskan coast, Surveys on--------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 519
Appropriations, interchangeability of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 551
Assistants to Superintendent-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 556
Atlantic and Gulf coasts, surveys on-------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5ll
Commutation to persons----------------------------------------------- 510
Disbursing agent, transfer of duties of.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 561
Hawaiian Islands, Surveys on coasts-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 519
Heating plant, connection with Capitol Power Plant... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 562
Injuries to employees, compensation for----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 569
International Geodetic Association--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 551
Lake Survey, comparison with... . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 466, 511
Lithographic press, new------------------------------------------------ 569
Magnetic observations--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 546
Maps for Post Office Department. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57].
Miscellaneous items. -------------------------------------------------- 550
Motor-propelled and horse-drawn vehicles.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 508
Office expenses--------------------------------------------------------- 562
Office force------------------------------------------------------------- 56]
Offshore sounding, Coast Pilot, etc. . . . . . . . . . . .--------------------------- 544
Pacific coast, Surveys on------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --------- 519, 528
Philippine Islands, coast Surveys------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 519
Physical hydrography, tidal and current observations. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 541.
Power plant, improvement in. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .-- - - - 562
• Special Surveys for other Government Services. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 549
Subsistence of employees in Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57].
Wessels— - -
Captains of pay--------------------------------------------------- 556
Employees for----------------------------------------------------- 554
Maintenance and repair. --------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 551
©W- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 566
Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47
Cofer, L. E., statement of.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 269
Coins, recoinage of.-------------------------------------------------------- 253
Collier, J. W., statement of.-----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 404
Collinsville, Ill., post office--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 48
Colorado River, protection of Imperial Valley against flood waters. . . . . . . . . . . . 961
Columbia Hospital, furnishing and equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . v. - 934
Columbia Institution for Deaf:
Buildings and grounds—
Dormitory for Women, new.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 736
Repairs to--------------------------------------------------------- 736
Maintenance, etc.------------------------------------------------------ 734
Pupils from States and District of Columbia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 735
Columbia, S.C., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 48
Commerce acts, enforcement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------- 799
Commerce, Department of:
Coast Survey. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Export products, certification of.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 626
INDEx. 987
Commerce, Department of Continued. Page.
Fisheries, Bureau of. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Lighthouses, beacons, and fog signals. (See detailed index under this
caption.) .
Lighthouse Service. (See detailed index under this caption.) -
Printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 916
Standards, Bureau of. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Commarcial products for export, certification of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 626
Commissions:
California Débris.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 456
Fine Arts------------------------------------------------------------- 447
Industrial Relations-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 943
Letter from Frank P. Walsh. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 978
Interstate Commerce. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 304
Conciliation, Board of Mediation and. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 332
Concord, N. H., post office (extension). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 48
Conduct of customs cases........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 747
Congressional Library, care of grounds. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 443
Contingent expenses, independent Treasury. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 248
Conversion of United States 2 per cent bonds into 3 per cent bonds or notes. . . 233
Cook, George W., statement of........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 737
Cookville, Tenn., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 48
Corpus Christi, Tex., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 48
Counterfeiting, suppression of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 255
Courts. (See United States courts.) e -
Courthouses. (See Public buildings or names of places.)
Covington, Tenn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------- 49
Crater Lake National Park: -
Care of.-----------------------------------------------------.‘. . . . . . 699, 941
Improvement of.---------------------------------------------------- 421, 941
Crist, Raymond F., statement of...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 873, 874
Crozier, William, statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - -* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 346, 373
Cuba: - A
Light keeper's dwelling at Guantanamo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 503
Monuments in---------------------------------------------------- , - - - - 398
Cuero, Tex., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ** = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 49
Currency:
Emergency---------------------------------------------------------- 201, 209
Federal reserve.----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 201, 204, 214, 227
National-bank notes.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 213
Reserve supply. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - 208, 222
Currents, observation of.---------------------------------------------------- 54l
Customs cases, conduct of by Department of Justice. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 747
Customhouses. (See Public buildings or names of places.) Q
Customs Service:
Board of General Appraisers, expenses of witnesses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 753.
Contingent expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 265
Expenses of collection of . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------- 258, 262
Frauds, prevention of.-----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 263
Miscellaneous items. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 265
Moieties, compensation in lieu of. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 268
Panama-Pacific International Exposition. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 266
Revenues, decrease in. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • = • = • * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 259
Salaries--------------------------------------------------------------- 264
Scales---------------------------------------------------------------- 267
Vehicles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 265
Curriden, William W., Statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 842
D.
Danbury, Conn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49
Daniels, Mark, statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 677
Danville, Ill., Branch Soldiers’ Home. (See National Home.)
I)anville, Va., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49
Daskam, E. B., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 248
Davis, R. P., statement of.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 398
Dayton, Ohio, Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Deaf, Institution for. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 734
988 º INDEX.
T’age
Defending suits in claims against United States. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754,757.
Delavan, Wis., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49
Denver, Colo., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
Departments. (See names of.)
Depredations on public timber, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 634
De Soto, Mo., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ‘s - - - - - - 50
Detection and prosecution of crimes. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 760
Detroit, Mich., post office and courthouse, mail-handling devices. . . . . . . . . . . . 50, 118
Dies, rolls, and plates, custody of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 219
Disabled Soldiers, appliances for . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 462
Distinctive paper for United States Securities. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 233,240,939.
District attorneys:
Pay of, and regular assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 808
Special assistants. -----------------------------------------------------. 809
District of Columbia: - •
- Buildings and grounds in and around Washington. (See detailed index
under this caption.) - -
Burials in Arlington Cemetery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Deaf students in Columbia Institution for Deaf. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 735
District attorney’s office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - 809
Engineer post and School in. --------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 423
Marshal’s Office, passenger vehicle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 807
National Training School for Boys. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 842
Post office, heat and light. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 879, 926
Prisoners in United States prisons, pay for Support of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 837
Dog Island, Me., Light. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 503
Dover, N. J., Picatinny Arsenal, additional land. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 356
Duehay, F. H., statement of . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 824
Duluth, Minn., fish station, buildings and water supply. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 607
Easbys Point Sewer.---------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 438
Eastern Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.) w - &
East Orange, N. J., post office.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
East Pittsburgh, Pa., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- 50
East St. Louis, Ill., post office, etc.:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - 51
Rent of quarters- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 51, 119
Education in Alaska...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tº º ºs-- * * * * * * * * 709
El Reno, Okla., post office------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51
Ellenburg, Wash., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 51
Ellis Island immigration station: -
Dormitories, use of for unemployed. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 851
" Pipe trench.----------------------------------------------------------- 852
- Elyria, Ohio, post office-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51
Emergency currency. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 201, 209
Enforcement of acts to regulate commerce. . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 799
Engineer Department, United States Army. (See War Department.)
Engineer Post and School, Washington................ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 423
England, payments to for seal fisheries-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 606
Engraving and Printing, Bureau of: - -
Building, new, sidewalks, curbs, etc........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87, 137,426
Building, old— l
Mechanical equipment. . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 148
Power plant, increasing boiler capacity.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87, 173
Repairs to...... . . . . . . . ** = e = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 140
Chiefs of division.--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 219
Conversion of United States 2 per cent bonds into 3 per cent bonds or notes. 233
Customs stamps, checks, and drafts................. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 218, 939
Dies, rolls, and plates, custody of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - 219
Distinctive paper---------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 234, 240,939
Emergency currency. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ‘. . . . . . . 201, 209
Employees other than plate printers and assistants . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 192, 237,939
Engravers' and printers' materials. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 230, 237,939
Estimates, revised.--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 236, 939
Letter from Director--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...- - - - - - - - 939
INDEX. * 989
Engraving and Printing, Bureau of Continued. Page.
Money laundry machines.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 229
National bank notes-------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 213,939
Paper for internal-revenue stamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 216, 232,939
Postage stamps, printing of................ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 233
Printing notes of larger denominations than those retired. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220
Reserve of bank notes.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 208, 222
Sheets to be printed of various classes of work, letter from Director. . . . . . 939
Total receipts and expenditures. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 197
Wages of plate printers........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 228, 237,939
War-revenue stamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------- 216, 939
Witness of destruction of Securities. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 221
Ennis, Tex., post office. . . . . • * * * * * * s º ºs ºs º ºs º ºs sº sº a s as a sº as as as e is as as º as as as a e s = ºs e s is s as s = sº sº e s is 52
Epidemics, prevention of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 283
Esterline, Blackburn, statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754
Eureka Springs, Ark., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 52
Evansville, Ind., post office, etc.:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - 52
Rent of quarters------------------------------------------------------- 52, 131
Everett, Wash., post office and customhouse................ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 52
Excelsior Springs, Mo., post office.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53
Exchanges, International... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 291
Executive department grounds, care of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 443
Executive Mansion: -
Care, repairs, refurnishing, etc. . . . . ** * * * * * = = * * * * * * = = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 445
Greenhouses— º
Care of.---------------------------------------------------------- 445
Fuel for---------------------------------------------------------- 445
Reconstructing one.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - * * * * = s.- - - - - - - - - 446
Repairs to--------------------------------------------------------- 445
Grounds, improvement, and maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 444
Export products, certification of . . . . . . . . .... • - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 626
- F. .*
Fairport, Iowa, fish station:
Clerk for-------------------------------------------------------------- 59].
Heating and lighting plant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . G07
Falls City, Nebr., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53
Faris, Robert L., statement of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 508
Farmers’ organizations, exemption from antitrust law. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - 784
Fayetteville, Tenn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53
Federal Court Reports------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 805
Federal reserve currency. (See Engraving and printing.)
Fergusson, F. E.-------------------------------------------------------- 173, 192
Field artillery, manufacture of ammunition of.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 374
Fine Arts Commission........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Fisheries, Bureau of: - * --
Administration, expenses of.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 594
Alaska— -
Employees. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 585,588
General Service, supplies, etc.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600
Fur seal islands—
Buildings------------------------------------------------------ 614
Cold storage. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 614
Vessel, officers and crew. . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 593
Commissioner’s office—
Alaska service, employees.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 585, 588
Assistant, division of inquiry respecting food fishes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 572
Assistant, Pacific coast office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 571
Civil engineer----------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 58]
Clerk, Pacific coast office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------- 582
* Deputy commissioner, clerk to... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 584
Local agents, Boston, Gloucester, and Seattle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 583
Pathologist.------------------------------------------------------- 574
Statistical agent----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 582
Dams and fishways, inspection of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 606
Distribution cars, three new. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 612
Employees at large-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 587
990 INDEX.
Fisheries, Bureau of Continued. • Page.
Great Britain and Japan, payments to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 606
Inquiry respecting food fishes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 598
Propagation of food fishes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 596
Sponge fisheries, proteçtion of----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600
Stations— .
Administration expenses.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . = • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 594
Baker Lake, Wash., hatchery and barn, reconstruction. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 615
Boothbay Harbor, Me., vessel for. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 596
Clackamas, Oreg., laborers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .... • * * * * 59].
Duluth, Minn., buildings and water supply. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 607
Fairport, Iowa– - t -
Clerk for . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * = - - - - - - - - - - - - 591
Heating and lighting plant--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 607
Foremen, designation of as “fish-culturists”. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 591
Homer, Minn., building destroyed by fire. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 620
Laborers, designation of as “apprentice fish-culturists”. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59
Louisville, Ky., additions to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 608, 616
Orangeburg, S. C., buildings, etc.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 618
Puget Sound. Wash., laborers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 592
Saratoga, Wyo., buildings, etc. . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. . . . . 619
Statistical inquiry--------------------------------------------------- . . . 599
Traveling expenses to meetings, conventions, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 594
Vessels, maintenance of.------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 597
Fishman, J. F., claim of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 766
Five Civilized Tribes, suits to set aside conveyances of allotted lands. . . . . . . . 787
Flathead River, bridge over at Glacier Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .942
Flynn, Wm. J., statement of.-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 255
Forbes, E. A., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24l
Ford, Cornelius, statement of.---------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 875 .
Fordyce, Ark., post office--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53, 119, 128
Forests, protection of.--------------------------------------------------- - - 634
Forest reserves, restoration of lands in. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 639
Forfeited lands, Oregon and California, protection of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 637
Fort Atkinson, Wis., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 53
Fort Baker, Cal---------------------------------------------------------- 393, 401
Fort Banks, Mass., oil house. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 400
Fort Casey, Wash., quartermaster’s detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39].
Fort Caswell, N. C., officers' quarters.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400
Fort Caswell, N. C., quartermaster’s detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - 392
Fort De Russy, Hawaii, Seacoast barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 394
Fort Douglas, Utah, barracks.-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 383
Fort Flagler, Wash., three-company post. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39()
Fort Hamilton, N. Y., quartermaster’s detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 392
Fortifications. Panama Canal. (Hearings in Separate volume for 1916.)
Fort Kamehameha, Hawaii, Seacoast barracks....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 394
Fort McKinley, Me., officers' quarters....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 399
Fort Monroe, Va., roads, wharf, and Sewers. . . . . . . . . . . .----------------------- 393
Fort Moultrie, S. C., oilhouse----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40].
Fort Sam Houston, Tex., barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 382
Port Shafter. Hawaii: -
Battalion barracks and officers' quarters. . . . . * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 378
Storehouses------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '• - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 382
Fort Terry, N. Y., kitchens and mess shelters.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400
Fort Warren, Mass., officers' quarters....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 393
Fort Williams, Me., quartermaster's detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 392
Fort Winfield Scott, Cal., officers' quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 398
Prankford Arsenal:
Boiler plant, increasing.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 354
Double action press shop building, extension....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 353
Land, additional... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 355
Lumber shed, extension of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 353
Tin Shop-------------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . * 352
Freedmen’s Hospital:
Ambulance, maintenance of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 746
Salaries, storekeeper--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 745
Subsistence, fuel, light, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 746
INDEX. - 991
. Page
Fulton, Ky., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53
Fulton, Mo., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
f* G.
Gallaudet College. . . . . . . . ------------------------------------------------ 734
Galveston, Tex., immigration station, ferryboat...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 854
Garden City, Kans., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 54
Gardiner, Me., post office.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
Garfield Park, new lodge in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 437
Gary, Ind., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------ 54
Gas, investigation of.---------------. . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 666
Gastonia, N. C., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
Gauging streams-------------------------------------------------- F - - - - - - - - - 650
General Appraisers, Board of, expenses of witnesses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 753
General Grant National Park . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 694
General Land Office. (See Public-lands service.)
General Superintendent of national parks, duties of. . . . . . . . . _* = * * * * * * * * * * * * ~ * 677, 687
Geological Survey: - -
Alaska, mineral resources of.-------------------------------------. . . . . . . 649
Books.---------------------------------------------------------------- ! 650
Director's office-------------------------------------------------------- 645
Gauging streams and determining water Supply. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 650
General expenses—
Motor-propelled and horse-drawn vehicles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 645
Per diem in lieu of Subsistence........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 645
Geologic surveys— -
Outside national forests. --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 647
Within national forests----------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 65]
Geology, chemical and physical researches relating to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 649
Illustrations, preparation of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 649
Maps, engraving and printing--------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - 651
Printing and binding--------------------------------------------------- 907
Skilled labor and other employees, pay of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 645
Topographic surveys------------------------------------------------- . . . 646
Georgetown, Ky., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
Gettysburg National Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , sº as sº as tº s sº * * * 402
Glacier National Park:
Care and improvement. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 679
Flathead River, bridge over. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 942
Glennan, A. H., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . 269
Glens Falls, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
Globe, Ariz., post office and courthouse... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
Gloucester, fisheries agent at--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 583
Gold coins, recoinage of.---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 253
Goldfield, Nev., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
Gompers, S. J., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 918
Gorgas, W. C., statement of.-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 462
Gosling, H. L., statement of.--------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 180
Gouverneur, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
Government certification of commercial export products. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 626
Government Hospital for Insane: -
Board of visitors.----------------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - 73]
Buildings and grounds, repairs and improvements. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 731
Civil service for employees. . . . . . . . . s = • * * * * * = • = • * = * * * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * 718
Cost-accounting system. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 727
Fence, new------------------------------------------------------------ 732
Motor vehicles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 716
Reclaimed land on Anacostia River... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 733
Roadways, grading, and walks.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 732
Support, clothing, treatment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 716
Government Printing Office:
Annual reports—
Attorney General's decisions -------------------------------------- 895
Comparison of volume and cost of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - 895
Deputy Public Printer, office of........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 877
Holidays. . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 877
992 INDEX.
Government Printing Office—Continued. Page
Leaves of absence . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 878.
Machinery, purchase of... . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 881
Motor vehicles---------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 891
New printing bill.----------------------------------------------------. 878
Paymaster's guard, increase in pay.......... . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 894
Printing and binding............ . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 880
Agriculture, Department of.-------------------------------- - - - - - - - - 915
Allotments to departments, statements of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 883
Civil Service Commission----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 903
Commerce, Department of.------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 916
Geological Survey------------------------------------------------- 907
Interior Department-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 902
Interstate Commerce Commission...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 327
Justice, Department of.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 914
Labor, Department of.--------------------------------------------- , 918
Library of Congress------------------------------------------------- 922
Navy Department.------------------------------------------------. 901
Pan American Union.----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 925.
Patent Office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 908
Post Office Department. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 908
Smithsonian Institution........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 954
State Department. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 897
Treasury Department---------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - , - - - - - 898
War Department. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 899
Private Secretary to Public Printer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 875
Public Printer's office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 875
Superintendent of Documents:
Documents handled and revenues from . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 886
Furniture and fixtures-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 889
Salaries, increases in . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 885
Washington city post office, heat and light for. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - . . . . 879,926
Watch force----------------------------------------------------------- 877
Governors Island, N. Y., repairs to Sea wall. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 424
Graham, George F., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . .... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 304
Graham, S.J., Statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * = sº tº º º ºs º º º º ſº ºn e º 'º - - & e º ºs º º • - - - - - - - - 754
Grand jurors, summoning of by mail.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 808
Grant Memorial, unveiling of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------ 450
Grass Valley, Cal., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
Great Britain, payments to, for seal fisheries. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------- 606
Greeley, Colo., post office. . . . . . . . . . -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ----------- 56
Greenfield, Mass., post office. . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 56
Greenwich, Conn., post office--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
Grenada, Miss., post office---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
Grinnell, Iowa, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
Guantanamo, Cuba, lighthouse keeper's dwelling. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... 503
Gulf Coast, surveys on----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 511
Gunnell, Leonard C., statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 291
H.
Hackensack, N. J., post office------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57
Hagerstown, Md., post office:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57
Rent of quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * = • * * * = - 57
Hall, Percival, statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 734
Halsted, F. M., statement of....-------------------------------------------. 258
Hamilton, William, statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * * * 709
Hampton, Va., Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Hampton, Va., post office..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 57
Hanford, Cal., post office. . . . . . . . . • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 57
Hanson, Bert, statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 747
Harlan, James S., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 304
Harris, J. D., statement of.------------------------------------------------- 754
Harris, Moses, statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 474
Harrisburg, Pa., post office and courthouse (extension)..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 58
Harts, William W., statement of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 425
IN DEX. 993
Hawaiian Islands: , i. Page.
Coast Surveys---------------------------------------------------------- 519
Fort Shafter— - -
Battalion barracks and officers’ quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 378
Storehouses-------------------------------------------------------- 382
Seacoast barracks— . -
Fort de Russy.---------------------------------------------------- 395
Fort Kamehameha. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 394
Hilo, Hawaii, post office, customhouse, and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 58
Hodge, F. W., statement of.------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 291.
Holland, Mich., post office. -----------. . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------- 58
Homer, Minn., fish station, building destroyed by fire........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 620
Homes for soldiers. (See National.)
Hornell, N. Y., post office----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 58.
Hospital for insane--------------------------------------------------------- 716.
Hot Springs, S. Dak., Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.) -
House Office Building, maintenance of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ................. 977
Howard University: .
Buildings and grounds, improvements and repairs to... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 739
Chemical, physical, and natural history laboratories, material, etc. . . . . . . . 744
Fuel and light. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 744
Libraries, books, shelving, etc. ------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 739
Maintenance, salaries, etc.-------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 737
Medical department, equipment, laboratory Supplies, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 744
Professor of Sociology--------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 737
Tools, materials, fuel, wages of instructors, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 738
Hudson River Channel in New York Harbor, improving. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 455
Hudson River, improving------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - 455
Humboldt, Tenn., post office----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - 58
Huntingdon, Pa., post office.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59
Huntington, Ind., post office------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 59
Huntington, W. Va., post office, etc.: *
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59
Rent of quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59
Hygienic Laboratory: & -
Buildings, refitting, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - 177
Maintenance of . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 277
I. - --
Immigration Service . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 856
Appropriations, reduction in, due to European War. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 862
Burman, Maurice, payment to------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 868
Canada, immigration from--------. . . . . . . . . = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 860
Chinese exclusion acts, enforcement of.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 863
Employees, furloughing of, due to European War. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 858
Kyman, Harry, payment to-------------------------------------------- 868
Motor vehicles----------------------------------------- • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 867
Number of immigrants.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 853
Per diem in lieu of Subsistence . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 866
Quarantine Service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - 280
Providence, R.I., station..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 868
Immigration stations. (See Names of places.) -
Imperial Valley, Cal., protection of, against Colorado River . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 961
Independent Treasury, contingent expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 248
Indian depredation claims, defense in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754,757
Industrial Relations, Commission Ön. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 943
Insane hospital. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 716
Inspection of commercial export products. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 626
Institution for deaf. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 734
Interior Department: º º
Alaska. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Buildings: -
New. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------------- 87
Repairs----------------------------------------------------------- 629
Capitol Building and Grounds. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Columbia Institution for Deaf. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Disbarment proceedings, testimony in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 704
*72785–15——63
994 INDEX.
Interior Department—Continued, -
Freedmen's Hospital. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Geological Survey. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Government Hospital for Insane. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Howard University. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Imperial Valley, Cal., protection of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- - - - - - - - - - - - 96].
Mines, Bureau of. (See detailed index under this caption.) .
National Parks: - -
Casa Grande Ruin, improvement of...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 700
Crater Lake. (See detailed index under this caption.)
General Grant---------------------------------------------------- 694
General Superintendent, duties of... . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 677,687
Glacier National Park: -
Bridge over Flathead River. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 942
Care and improvement---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.79
Mesa Verde, care of and use of revenues. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 696
Mount Ramter. ----------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 695
Platt----------------------------------------------------------- - - 699
Revenues, fiscal year 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 702
Sequoia. . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 694
Wind Cave------------------------------------------------------ 699
Yellowstone. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Yosemite, care and improvement of... . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -684,.691
Patent Office, third floor, renovation------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 629
Printing and binding. -------------------------------------------. . . . . . . 902
Public Lands Service. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Reclamation Service. (Hearings in separate volume for 1916.)
Internal revenue expenses:
Collections, refund of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24l
Paper for stamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 216, 232,241,939
Punishment for violation of laws. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 242
International exchanges. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . 291
International Geodetic Association........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 551
Interstate Commerce Commission:
Boiler Inspection Service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 317
Commerce acts, enforcement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 799
Deficiency in appropriations. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 327
General expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 304
Printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * . . 327
Safety on railroads-------------------------------------------------. . . . 315
Valuation of carriers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 321, 940
Subsistence accounts of field parties. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 940
Interstate quarantine Service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 288
Ishpeming, Mich., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 59
Jackson, Ky., post office and courthouse.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
Jadwin, Edgar, statement of......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 414, 458, 466
Jails, inspection of.-------------------------------------------------------. 767
Japan, payment to, for seal fisheries. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 606
Jasper, Ala., post office and courthouse........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
Jellico, Tenn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
Jennings, La., post office..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
Johannes, George J., statements of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 508, 916
Johnson City, Tenn., Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Jones, E. L., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * 57.1
Judiciary Park:
Care of.-------------------------------------------------------------. 427
Roads, Walks, etc.----------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 436
Juneau, Alaska, post office and customhouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
Jurors, fees of.------------------------------------------------------------ 819
Jurors, summoning of, by mail. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 808
Justices of peace, fees of.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 818
Justice, Department of:
Antitrust laws, enforcement of
Attorneys, employment of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 774–784
Employees in Washington....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 773
Labor or farmers' Organizations, exemption of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 784
Prosecutions instituted, concluded, or pending. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 770
/
INDEX. 995
Justice, Department of-Continued.
Attorneys— . Page.
* Antitrust laws, enforcement. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 774–784
Attorney General, special assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 809
Claims against United States, defense in. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754
District attorneys and regular assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 808
District attorneys, special assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 809
Five Civilized Tribes, suits to set aside conveyances. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 789
Indian depredation claims, defense. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 757
Pacific Railroad cases. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 797
Seminole lands, suits affecting-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 792
Board of General Appraisers, expenses of witnesses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 753
Commerce, enforcement of acts to regulate. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 799
Crimes, detection and prosecution of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 760
Bank accountants, expert. . . . . . . . . . . .-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 763
Claims of Wrisley Brown, D. C. Stutler, and J. F. Fishman. . . . . . . . . . 765
Investigations made............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 762
Per diem in lieu of subsistence... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 764
Salaries----------------------------------------------------------- 765
White slave act, violations of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 762
Customs cases, conduct of, attorneys. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 747
Defending suits in claims. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------... - - - - - - - - - - 754, 757
Federal Court Reports and Digests. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 805
Five Civilized Tribes, suits to set aside conveyance of allotted lands. . . . . . 787
Indian depredation claims, defense in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754, 757
Lawyers' cooperative edition. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . .805
National Training School for Boys. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Pacific Railroad suits, protecting interest of Government in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 793
Penitentiaries. (See Atlanta, Leavenworth, and McNeil Island.)
Printing and binding--------------------------------------------------- 914
Prisons and prisoners, inspection of..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 767
Seminole allotted lands in Oklahoma, suits affecting title to... . . . . . . . . . . . . 791
Traveling and miscellaneous expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 769
United States courts. (See detailed index under this caption.)
United States Reports. . . . . . . . . .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - • * = * * * * * * = * * * * := * * - tº . . . . . 805
- K.
Kalispell, Mont., post office................................................. 60
Kansas City, Mo., post office, etc.: -
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 61
Rent of quarters------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6L
Kerr, J. W., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 269
Kettner, William, statenent of....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 961
Kimball, S. I., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - 180
Kinston, N. C., post office--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 61
Kirksville, Mo., post office: -
Construction of extension. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 61
Rent of quarters-------------------------------------------------------- 61
Koch, Charles R. E., statement of............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 408
Kyman, Harry, payment to..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 868.
L.
La Junta, Colo., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - , 62
La Salle, Ill., post office.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
Labor, Department of: &
Immigration Service. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Immigration stations— •-"
Angel Island Station, transfer to Alcatraz Island. . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 871
Ellis Island------------------------------------------------------- 851
Galveston------------------------------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 854
Philadelphia---------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . = = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 855
Providence, R. I.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 868
Naturalization Service, rent at Chicago, Ill...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 873, 874
Printing and binding-----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 918
Labor organizations, exemption from antitrust laws... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 784
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Lafayette, La., post office.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
Lake City, Minn., post office...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 62
Lakes, Survey of northern and northwestern, comparison with Cóast Survey. . . 466, 511
Lands. (See Public.) -
Lane, Franklin K., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 746,961
Laundry machines for paper money........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 229, 254
Laurel, Miss., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
Lawton, Okla., post office and courthouse . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63
Leavenworth, Kans., Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Leavenworth, Kans., Penitentiary:
American Prison ASSociation, expenses of attending. . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 832
Clothing, transportation, and traveling expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 832
Construction of----------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 825
District of Columbia prisoners, pay for Support of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 837 -
Foremen, laundrymen, etc.-----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 836
Hospital supplies-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 836
Miscellaneous expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 832
Salaries--------------------------------------------------------------- 836
Subsistence----------------------------------------------------------- 830.
Library of Congress: gº
Care of grounds-------------------------------------------------------- 443
Printing and binding--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 922
Life-Saving Service: -
Current expenses, crews, etc....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 18]
Keepers--------------------------------------------------------------- 181
Superintendents.---------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 180,
Lighthouses, beacons, and fog signals:
Construction, new model of.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 504
Dog Island, Me., light near St. Croix River entrance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 503
Guantanamo, Cuba, light keeper's house. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 503.
Lighthouse Service: -
Aid to shipwrecked persons. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 506
Appropriations, lump sum for all. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 508,
General expenses-----------------------------------------------------. 504
Inspectors, clerks, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 507
Keepers of lighthouses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 506.
Surveys for, by Coast Survey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 549
Vessels, officers and crews. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 506.
Lincoln Memorial, construction of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 451.
Lincoln, Nebr., post Office and courthouse (extension). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63
Linton, Ind., post office.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63
Little Falls, Minn., post office... -----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63.
Little Rock, Ark., National Cemetery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 398
Live Oak, Fla., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63.
Logan, Ohio, post office--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * 64
Longview, Tex., post office------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64.
Louisville, Ky., fish station, additions to... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 608, 616
Lynchburg, Va., post office and courthouse (extension)........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
M.
M'Alester, Okla., mine-rescue Station, repairs to............ . . . . . . ~ * * * * * * = º tº e º 'ºp 669
M’Comb, Miss., post office....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (35
M’Ilhenny, J. A., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , sº * * * * * * * * 903
M'Pherson, Kans., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 66.
McAllister, C. A., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 183
McGinnis. J. W., statement of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24].
McGinty, G. B., statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 304
McGlasson, C. H., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 824
McNeil Island, Wash., penitentiary: - *
Clothing, transportation, etc. -------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84l
Land, purchase of additional... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 829
Miscellaneous expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 841
Salaries------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84.1
Subsistence--------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 840
Madden, Martin B., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 404
Madison, Wis., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , s sº as sº sº tº sº a s = * * * * * * * 64
INDEX. * 997
tº - Page.
Malburn, Wm. P., statement of.---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 192, 248
Mandan, N. Dak., post office--------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
Manning, Van H., statement of... . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 651
Maps, War Department ----------------------------------------------------- 424
Maquoketa, Iowa, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
Marine hospitals, maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 277
Marion, Ind., Branch Soldiers Home. (See National Home.)
Marion, S. C., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- * * * * * * * * * = = • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 65
Marquette, Mich., Harbor, improving-...-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 454
Marshall, W. L., Statement of- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 96]
Marshals, United States, Salaries, etc. ---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 806
Martinsburg, W. Va., post office (extension).......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
Maryville, Tenn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
Medford, Oreg., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 66
Mediation and Conciliation, Board of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 332
Medical relief to natives of Alaska. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 713
Meridian Hill Park, improvement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 433
Merrill, Wis., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 66
Mesa Verde National Park, care of and use of revenues. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 696
Middlesboro, Ky., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 66
Middletown, Conn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - 66.
Middletown, Ohio, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 67
Miles City, Mont., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
Military parks. (See National.)
Military posts: º
Abandonment of certain posts, points of enlistment, purchase of Supplies. 383
Construction and enlargement—
Fort Douglas (Utah) Barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 383
Fort Sam Houston (Tex.) Barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 382
Fort Shafter, Hawaii—
Battalion barracks and officers' quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 378
Storehouses.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 382
. Plattsburg Barracks, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., - - - - - - - - 381
Disciplinary barracks instead of military prisons. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 390
Engineer post and School, Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 423
Fort Monroe, Va., wharf, roads, and Sewers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 393
Governors Island, N. Y., repairs to Sea wall. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 424
Seacoast barracks, Hawaiian Islands—
Fort Kamehameha... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - . . . . . 394
Fort De Russy.-- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 395
Seacoast-defense barracks (United States)—
Fort Baker, Cal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 393, 401
Fort Banks, Mass., oil house. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400
Fort Casey, Wash., quartermaster’s detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 391
Fort Caswell, N. C., officers’ quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400
Fort Caswell, N. C., quartermaster's detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . . 392
Fort Flagler, Wash., three-company post. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 390
Fort Hamilton, N. Y., quartermaster's detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . 392
Fort McKinley, Me., officers’ quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 399
Fort Moultrie, S. C., oil house. . . . . . . . .------------------------------ 401
Fort Terry, N. Y., kitchens and mess shelters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400
Fort Warren, Mass., officers' quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 393
Fort Williams, Me., quartermaster's detachment barracks. . . . . . . . . . . . 392,
Fort Winfield Scott, Cal., officers’ quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . 2- - - - - - - - - - - - - 398
Military Records of Revolution. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------- 343
Military reservations, Survey of abandoned. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 644
Millville, N. J., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 67
Milwaukee, Wis., appraisers' stores. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
Milwaukee, Wis., Soldiers' Homes. (See National Home.)
Minden, La., post office..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
Mines, Bureau of:
Alaska, mine inspector—
Clerk to---------------------------------------------------------- 675
Pay of.------------------------------------------------------------ 675
Birmingham, Ala., mine-rescue station, extension, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 669
Books.------------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . .… 675
998 INDEX.
Mines, Bureau of Continued. - Page.
Coal, testing of for Government uses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 659
Duplication of work of or by other services. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 664
General expenses— -
Bibliographer---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------- 651
Editorial assistant-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65].
Illustrator. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 651
Office force, pay of.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 651
McAlester, Okla., mine-rescue station, repairs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (369.
Mine explosions, mine rescue, etc., investigation of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 653
Personal Services in Washington.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 657
Mineral fuels and unfinished mineral products, mining, preparation, etc. . 659
Mine-rescue cars— -
Land for headquarters of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 676
Operation of.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 656
Motor trucks, operation, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 676
Ores and other minerals, mining, etc. . . . . . ---------------------- - - - - - - - - - 662
Per diem of employees detailed to Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 676
Petroleum and natural gas, investigations of............... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 666.
Traveling expenses to meetings, etc....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 668
Pittsburgh laboratory—
Completion of.--------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75
Equipment of.:-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . = = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * 670
Radium, investigation of................. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 662
Minor coins, recoinage of.-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 253
Minot, N. Dak., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68
Missoula, Mont., post office, etc.:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68
Rent of quarters.------.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ($8
Moberly, Mo., post office:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68
Rent of quarters----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68
Mobile, Ala., post office....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
Moieties, compensation in lieu of . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . 268
Money. (See Engraving and printing.)
Money laundry machines----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 229, 254
Monongahela, Pa., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Montevideo, Minn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * is a e s = * * * * * * 69
Montrose Park, improvement of.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 435
Morristown, N. J., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
Moses, R. H., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 901
Motor-propelled or horse-drawn vehicles:
Coast Survey--------------------------------------------------------- 508
Crater Lake Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 941
Customs Service . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 265
District of Columbia, United States marshall’s office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 807
Freedman's Hospital. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 746
Geological Survey. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 645
Government Hospital for Insane . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 716
Government Printing Office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 891
Mines, Bureau of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------- "- - - - - - 676
National Training School for Boys. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 845
Moultrie, Ga., post office............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
Moundsville, W. Va., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
Mountain Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Mount Rainier National Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 695
Mount Vernon, Ill., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 70.
Mount Vernon, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 70
Mount Vernon Park, care and maintenance...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 442
Muskegon, Mich., post office, etc.:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - 70
Rent of quarters----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . /- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 70
Museum, National. (See Smithsonian.)
- N Page
Nacogdoches, Tex., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 71
Narragansett Pier, R. I., post office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71
Nashville, Tenn., post office, etc.:
Construction of extension... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71
Rent of quarters.------------------------------------------------------ 71, 131
National bank notes. (See Engraving and printing.) -
National cemeteries: - - -
Antietam Battlefield......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . as sº is ºr an º' - an e º me as e = * * * * * * * 397
Arlington Cemetery, burials in from District of Columbia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Confederate Mound, Oakwood Cemetery, Chicago, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 398
Cuba and China, monuments in. . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------------------- 398
Headstones------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 396
Little Rock, Ark., cemetery------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 398
Maintaining and improving----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 896
Remains of Soldiers and civilians, disposition of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Roadways, repairs to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397
Superintendents, pay of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 396
National forests, protection of.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 634
National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers: -
Admission of Soldiers of Regular Army.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 496
Aid to State or Territorial Homes........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 495
- Battle Mountain Sanitarium, Hot Springs, S. Dak.--
Current expenses--------------------------------------------------- 492
Farm-------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - tº e - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 492
Hospital.----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 492
Household.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 492
Repairs.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 492
Subsistence--------------------- ------------------------------------ 942
Transportation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 492
Board of Managers, Salaries. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 494
Central Branch, Dayton, Ohio—
Current expenses--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 474
Farm---------------------------------- . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 476
Hospital.---------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 475
Household.------------------------------------------------------- 475
Repairs..... . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 476
Subsistence----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 474
Transportation-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 475
Clothing for all branches.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . wa- - - - * * * * * * * * - - - - - 493
Danville, Ill., branch—
Current expenses--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 489
Farm-------------------------------------------------------------- 490
Hospital.--------------------------------------------------------- 490
Household.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 489
Repairs.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 490
Subsistence. . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 489
Transportation... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------- 490
Eastern Branch, Togus, Me.— - - -
Current expenses.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 479
Farm------------------------------------ -------------------------- 480
Hospital.--------------------------------------------------------- 479
Household.-------------------------------------------------------- 479
Repairs----------------------------------------------------------- 480
Subsistence.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - -, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 479
Transportation------------------------------------------------------ 480
Food, complaints about..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 474
Marion Branch, Ind.—
Current expenses---------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 487
Farm-------------------------------------------------------------- 488
Hospital.--------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 488
Household.----------------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . 488
Repairs----------------------------------------------------------- 488
Subsistence----------------------------------------------------- . . 487
Transportation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 488
1000 INDEX.
National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers—Continued.
Mountain Branch, Johnson City, Tenn.— I’age,
Current expenses--------....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 490
'arm--------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ‘. . . . 491
Household.------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 491
Repairs.-------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 491
Subsistence--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49 |
Transportation---------------------------------------------------- 491
Northwestern Branch, Milwaukee, Wis.-
Curbing and gutters........... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 478
Current expenses................. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 477
Farm-------------------------------------------------------------- 478
Hospital. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 477
Household.----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 477
Repairs.---------------------------------------------------------- 478
Subsistence------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 477
Transportation--- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 478
Number in homes------------------.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 494
Pacific Branch, Santa Monica, Cal.— -- • .
Bandmaster, quarters for....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 487
Current expenses---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 485
Dining hall and kitchen, equipment.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 486
Farm--------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 486
Hospital.--------------------------------------------------------- 485
Household... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 485
Repairs--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 486
Subsistence------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 485
Transportation. . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 486
Southern Branch, Flampton, Va.--
Administration building. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 843
Current expenses.-------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 480
Farm-------------------------------------------------------------- 482
Hospital.----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 481
Household. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 481
Repairs---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 482
Sea Wall and back fill-----------..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 482
Subsistence. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --------------------------------- 481
Transportation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 481
Western Branch, Leavenworth, Kans.—
Current expenses.............. . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 483
Farm----------------------------------------------------- ... • * * * * * * * * 484
Hospital.--------------------------------------------------------- 484
Household. . . . . . . . . . . . . *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * 483
Oil, use of, as fuel..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 483
Repairs----------------------------------------------------------- 484
Subsistence. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 483
Transportation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 484
National military parks:
Chickamauga . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 401
Gettysburg. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 402
Shiloh.---------------------------------------------------------------- 402
Vicksburg------------------------------------------------------------ 402
National Museum. (See Smithsonian Institution.) -
National parks:
Casa Grande Ruin............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 700
Crater Lake. (See detailed index under this caption.)
General Grant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 694
General Superintendent, duties of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 677,687
Glacier— -
Care and improvement. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 679
Flathead River, bridge over . . . . . . . . . |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 942
Mesa Verde. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 696
Mount Rainier. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 695
Platt.---------------------------------------------------------------- 699
Revenues, fiscal year 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 702
Sequoia. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 694
699
Wind Cave........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
INDEX. 1001
National parks—Continued.
Yellowstone. (See detailed index under this caption.) - I?age.
Yosemite-------------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 684, 691
National Training School for Boys:
Buildings and grounds, repairs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 847
Dairy stock-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 847
Drainage of grounds. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 847
Family building, new. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 842
Motor Vehicles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 845
Per capita cost.----------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 844
Salaries--------------------------------------------------------------- 843
School building, new, furniture and gymnasium equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 849
Subsistence to officers or employees. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------- . . . . . 846
- Support. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 844
National Zoological Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 301
Natural gas, investigation of . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------- 666
Naturalization Service, rent at Chicago, Ill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 873, 874
Naugatuck, Conn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7].
Navasota, Tex., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 72
Navy: -
Printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 901.
Revolutionary Records. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = • * * * * * * * * * * ~ * * 343
Testing coal for. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - . 659
Neenah, Wis., post office...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 72
Newärk, Ohio, post office. . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - '- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 72
New Braunfels, Tex., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 72
Newcastle, Ind., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 72
New Haven, Conn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73
Newman, S. M., Statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 737
Newport, R. I., post office and customhouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73
New Orleans, La.:
Bubonic plague. . . . . . . . . ---------------------------------------------- 283
Customhouse (remodeling). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73
Post office and courthouse, mail-handling devices. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73, 132
New Rochelle, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73
Newton, Byron R., Statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 93, 119
New York, N. Y.:
Ellis Island immigration station—
Dormitories, use of for unemployed. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85.1
Pipe trench------------------------------------ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . 852
Governors Esland, repairs to Seawall. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 424
Harbor—
Hudson River channel, improving. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 455
Preventing deposits in— *
Illegal dumping---------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 459
Patrol vessel, new. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 459
Patrol vessel Lamont, repairs to . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 459
Pay of inspectors, crews, office force, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 459
Public buildings, supervising chief engineer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 162
North Attleboro, Mass., post office..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
Northern and northwestern lakes, survey of, comparison with Coast Survey. . 466, 511
Northwestern Branch, Soldiers Home. (See National Home.)
Norton, Va., post office----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 74
O.
O'Donnell, Roger, statement of.... -----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 851
Oakwood, Chicago, Cemetery---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 398
Observatory, Astrophysical.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 293
Ocean surveys. (See Coast Survey.)
Offices. (See names of.)
Ohio River below Pittsburgh, improving............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 455
Oil, investigation of.-------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 666
Oklahoma City, Okla., post office and courthouse (extension). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
Oklahoma, Seminole allotted lands, Suits affecting title to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 791
Opelika, Ala., post office...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
Orange, N. J., post office-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
Orangeburg, S.C., fish Station, buildings, etc......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 618
1002 - Index.
Page
Oregon & California Railroad forfeiture suit, protection of lands in. . . . . . . . . . . . 637
Ores, mining, etc., of.--------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 662.
Osage City, Kans, post office.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
Osborn, Wm. H., statement of................. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 241
‘P.
Pacific Branch, Soldiers Home. (See National Home.) -
Pacific coast, surveys on------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 519, 528.
Pacific railroads suits, protecting interest of Government in. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 793
Palitka, Fla., post office----------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . 75
Panama Canal. (Hearings in separate volume for 1916.)
Panama Pacific International Exposition, customs service at . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 266
Pan American Union, printing and binding------------------------.... . . . . . . . . 925,
Paper money. (See Engraving and Printing.) -
Paper for United States securities..... , ºr sº * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * . . . . . . . . . 233,240, 939
Paper for internal-revenue stamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 216, 232, 241,939
Parker, J. I., Statement of... . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 629.
Parker, Robert E., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 401
Parks:
District of Columbia. (See Buildings and grounds.)
National. (See detailed index under this caption.) -
National military. (See detailed index under this caption.) •'
Zoological. (See Smithsonian.)
Parks, E. L., statement of..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 787
Patent Office:
Building, renovation of.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 629.
P Printing and binding............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 908
ay:
Arrears of, War with Spain.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502.
Back-pay claims. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 501
Peabody & Stearns, payment to............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 156
Peace celebration, Vicksburg, Miss....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 404
Pellagra----------------------------------------------------------------- 286, 290
Pendleton, Oreg., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - 75
Penitentiaries. (See Atlanta, McNeil Island, and Leavenworth.)
Pensacola, Fla., post office and courthouse (extension). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75
Per diem in lieu of subsistence:
Geological Survey. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - * * * * * * * * * 645
Immigration Service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 866.
Justice, Department of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 764
Mines, Bureau of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 676
Peters, Andrews J., statement of.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 258 .
Petroleum, investigation of.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 666
Petworth, improvement of triangles.---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 438
Philadelphia, Pa...:
Arsenal at. (See Frankford.) - -
Immigration station, launch.----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 855
Philippine Islands, coast surveys. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 519
Physical valuation of railroads. --------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 327, 940
Picatinny Arsenal, additional land. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 356
Pittsburgh, Pa., Bureau of Mines laboratory: -
Construction of.-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75
Equipment and furnishing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (370
Plague, bubonic------------------------------------------------------------ 283
Plainfield, N. J., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75
Platt National Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 699
Plattsburg Barracks, N. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 381
Port Huron, Mich., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76, 133
Port Jervis, N. Y., post office-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76
Portland, Me., quarantine station----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76
Portland, Oreg., public building, architects for... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 155
Postage stamps, printing of.--------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 233
Post office at Washington, heat and light for . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . S79,926
Post Office Department:
Maps, printing of by Coast Survey. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 571
Printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 908
INDEX. 1008
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Post-office buildings. (See Public buildings or names of places.)
Potomac Park. (See Buildings and grounds.) . Page.
Poughkeepsie, N. Y., post office (extension). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - ------------ 76
President, protection of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 255.
Prevention of epidemics... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • 283
Princeton, Ill., post office--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------- 76.
Printing and binding. (See Government Printing Office.)
Prisoners, support of.--------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 825.
Brisons and prisoners, inspection of... . . . . . . . . = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - 767
Prouty, C. A., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 304
Providence Hospital, contract with... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 465
Providence, R. I., immigration station. . . . . . . . . . ---------------------------- 868
Providence River and fürbor, R. I., improving------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 456
Proving ground, Sandy Hook, N. J. (See Armories and arsenals.)
Public ºlings and grounds in and around Washington. (See Buildings and
grounds.) .
Public buildings. (See also names of individual places or buildings.):
Appropriations—
Balances unexpended. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 105–114
Balances under equipment, maintenance, and repair appropriations -
for five years------------. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 172,173
Balances of from buildings completed and occupied. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 141
For 1916 buildings previously authorized but not in course of con-
struction------------------------------- :- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 116, 124
For 1916 use of all unexpended balances heretofore specifically made. . 93
Architectural competitions---------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 153, 173
Boston, Mass., customhouse, payment to Peabody & Stearns. . . . . . . . . \lö6
Portland, Oreg., building. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 155
Buildings appropriated for or authorized but not in course of construction,
December 1, 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20–38
Buildings, construction of held up. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106–114
Buildings in course of construction December 1, 1914, statement of . . . . . . . 4–18
Buildings, order of construction of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . II9
Buildings of $50,000 class, cost of site, construction, janitor service, heat,
light, Water, etc.---------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . 936
Construction Work, status of.----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 120
Estimates for 1916, analysis of total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 117, 125
Estimates, revised and supplemental. . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 119, 130
Furniture and repairs to furniture. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 163, 173
General expenses----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... - 150, 172
Mechanical equipment......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 144, 148, 172
Protection to vaults. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 146
Treasury, Butler, Winder, and Auditors’ Buildings. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
Operating force. . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 159,173
Assistant custodians. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 160
- Supervising chief engineer, New York. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 160
Operating supplies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 167, 173
Brooklyn, N. º post office, electric current. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 169
Electric current for light and power. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 169
Fuel.-----------------------------. ------------------------------- 168.
Laundry bills-------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . 168
Sale of steam for pneumatic-tube Service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 171
Plans donated, acceptance of...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . L19
Rent of temporary quarters. (See also names of individual places.). . . . . . 10, 131
Repairs and preservation * nº sº º sº º ºs º º ºs e <= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "- - - - - - - - - - - 138, 172
Auditors’ Building, repairs..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140
Buildings rented from the Government, repair of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 139
Site agents and sites..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150
Sites, amounts Saved in purchase of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150
Sites and buildings, appropriations made but not expended. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 112
Sites, balances unexpended from purchase. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 114
Sites, list of, appropriated for but not purchased. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ill
Special report of Supervising Architect. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 143,936
Status of construction work. . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - -------------- - - - - - - 120
Vaults and Safes... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 149, 172
1004 - INDEX.
Public Health Service: Page.
Alaska, medical relief in.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 709,713
Butler Puilding— ... • -
Mechanical equipment---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 148
Repairs to-------------------------------------------------------- 88, 137
Collecting information of prevalence of disease. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 289
Epidemics, prevention of Bubonic plague, New Orlenas, Seattle, and
California----------------------------- ---------------------------- . . . . 283
Field investigations of diseases of man. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 285
Pellagra, study of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 286
Temporary surgeons----------------------------------------------- 287
Freight, transportation, and traveling expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 275 .
Fuel, light, and Water.------------------------------------------------- 275
Furniture and repairs to furniture. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 276
Hygienic Laboratory— . -
Buildings, refitting, etc. --- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 177
Maintenance of.---------------------------------------------------- 277
Interstate quarantine service. ------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 288
Journals and books.--------------------------------------------------- 280
Marine hospitals, maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 277
Medical examinations, care of Seamen, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 278
Pay, allowances, etc., commissioned officers and pharmacists. . . . . . . . . . . . . 269
Pay of acting assistant Surgeons................ . . . . . . . : s = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 273
Pay of all other employees-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 274
Pellagra, study of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ‘. . . 286, 290
Purveying depot------------------------------------------------------ 276
Quarantine service----------------------------------------------------- 280
Public Land Service:
Depositing public money, expenses of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 634
Depositions, fees for taking. . . . . '• * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 638
Depredations, on public timber, protection of public lands. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 634
Clerical services-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 635
Expenses of hearings. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 636,638
Entries, number of, 1912, 1913, 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 633
Forest reserves, restoration of lands in... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 639
Hearings, expenses of... . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 636,638
Indian reservations, expenses of opening. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 640
Clerk hire.-------------------------------------------------------- 640
Land offices, contingent expenses----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (332
Oregon & California Railroad forfeiture suit, protection of lands in. . . . . . . . 637
Patents issued during fiscal years 1912, 1913, 1914. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 941
Plats of Surveys; reproduction of............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 638
Registers and receivers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 631
Surveying public lands-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 641.
Abandoned reservations... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 644
Railroad-grant lands............... .* * * * * * * * * * * = - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ... 643
Topographic surveys of.----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 651
Public printing and binding. (See Government Printing Office.)
Public timber, protection of.----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ($34
Puget Sound, Wash., fish station, laborers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 592
Pulaski, Va., post office.---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
Putnam, Conn., post office------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
Putnam, G. R., statement of.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502
Putnam, Herbert, statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 922
Q.
Quarantine service-------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 280
Quartermaster Corps. (See Military posts and National cemeteries.) -
Quitman, Ga., post office-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
R.
Radio communication, laboratory for research work. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 623
Radium, investigation of.--------------- ". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * 662
Railroads:
Accounts, examination of............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 308
Alaskan-------------------------------------------------------------- 746
sº g INDEX. 1005.
Railroads—Continued. Page.
Mediation with----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 332
Safety on-----------------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . 3.15.
Scales, testing of--------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . 621
Survey of lands granted to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 643
Valuation of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 321
Rainier National Park. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ----------------------------------- 695
Ralph, J. E., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 173, 192
Ralston, Robert R., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 423.
Rathbun, Richard, statement of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 29]
Ravenel, W. De C., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * 291
Rawlins Park, improvement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 437
Reading, Pa., post office (extension). . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 77
Reclamation Service. (Hearings in separate volume for 1916.) *
Recoinage of gold and minor coins. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 253
Records of the Revolution. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 343
Redfield, S. Dak., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77.
Redfield, W. C., statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502, 508, 571
Reform School for Boys. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 842.
Reindeer for Alaska. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . T- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 71.I.
Reports, annual: -
Attorney General's decisions in re. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 895
Comparison of volume and cost of . . . . . . . . . . . . . s s = • * * * * * * * : - - - - - - - - - - - - 895.
Reservations, Survey of abandoned. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 644
|Revenue-Cutter Service: -
Cadets---------------------------------------------------------------- 188
Coal.------------------------------------------------------------------ 186
Contingent expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 184
New Ships.--------------------------------------------* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 19].
Pay and allowances.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . - 183
Repairs to vessels. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .---------------------------- 190
Revolutionary Records, military. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 343
Ridgway, Pa., post office--------------------------------------------------- 78
Rivers, gauging------------------------------------------------------------ 650,
River and harbor work (contract). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 452
Estimates revised. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - 454–456
Hudson River, N. Y., improving--------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 455
Marquette, Mich., Harbor, imporving-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 454
New York Harbor: -
Improving Hudson River Channel... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 455
Preventing deposits. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 458
Ohio River below Pittsburgh, improving.............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 455
Providence River and Harbor, R.I., improving.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 456
Tillamook Bay and Bar, Oreg., improving-............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 456
Robinson, Ill., post office. . . . . . . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 78
Rock Island Arsenal:
Arsenal building, repairs to-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 359
Boiler house, coal bins, and hoisting apparatus.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 360
Bridge, repairs to......... --. ... • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 358
Bridge and viaduct, operation, etc.-----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 361
Field Artillery ammunition plant........ . . . . . . . . . . . "- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 373, 374
Fire protection, increasing.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - 356
Power plant, maintenance, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 361
Road, repairs to---------------. . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 357
Shop H, repairs, reappropriation.-------. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 359, 373
Small-arms cartridge plant--------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 374
Storehouse for oils, etc.----------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 358
Storehouse in connection with Field Artillery. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 373
Rockville, Conn., post office. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 78
Rocky Mount, N. C., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 78
Ropes, E. H., statement of.------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 180
Roseburg, Oreg., post office.-----------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 78
Rucker, W. C., statement of.------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 269
Rumford, Me., post office----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - 78
Rutherfordton, N. C., post office. . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 79
I006 INDEX.
. S. -
- - Page
St. Croix River, Me., light near Dog Island............... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 503
St. Elizabeth's Asylum---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 716
St. Louis, Mo., post office, mail-handling devices. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 134
St. Louis, Mo., subtreasury. ... . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 79
St. Petersburg, Fla., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------- 79
Salamanca, N. Y., post office, ground rent........ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 79, 172
Sandusky, Ohio, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 79
Sandy Hook, N.J., Proving Ground. (See Armories and Arsenals.)
Sanford, J. C., statement of.----------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 466
San Francisco, Cal., Angel Island Immigration Station, transfer to Alcatraz -
Island-------------------------------------------------------------- . . . . 871
Sanger, Mongie, statement of.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 716
San Luis Obispo, Cal., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
Saranac Lake, N. Y., post office-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
Santa Monica, Cal., Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Saratoga, Wyo., fish station, buildings, etc.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 619
Savanna, Ill., post office------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
Scales, testing of railroad. . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - • * = • - - - - - - - - - - . . 621
Schmeckebier, L. F., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 902
Scofield, J. C., statement of............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 899
Seacoast Artillery barracks. (See Military posts.) -
Seattle, Wash.: -
Bubonic plague. . . . . -------------------------------------------------- 283
Fisheries agent--------------------------------------------------------- 583
Secret service---------------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 255
Secretary of Commerce. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - 502, 508, 571
Secretary of Interior. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 746,961
Seminole allotted lands in Oklahoma, suits affecting title to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 791
Sequoia National Park. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 694
Seymour, Conn., post office.--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
Seymour, Ind., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
Shelby, N. C., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 81
Shelbyville, Ky., post office--------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 81
Shelbyville, Tenn., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - 8].
Sherwood, C. R., statement of...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754,914
Shiloh National Park.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 402
Shuster, W. M., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - 842
Sidney, Ohio, post office-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 81
Smith, George Otis, statement of. . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 645,907
Smith, Hugh M., statement of...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57 i
Smithsonian Institution:
Astrophysical observatory------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 293
Bookstacks for Government bureau libraries. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 294
Grounds, care of. ----------------------------------------------------- 427,
International Catalogue of Scientific Literature. . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - = • = • * = 292
International exchanges. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 291
National Museum— -
Additional water supply.............. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - '- - - - - - 443.
Books, periodicals, and pamphlets-------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 299
Buildings, repairs.------------------------------------------------ 299
Cases, furniture, and fixtures.---------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - . 295
Heating, lighting, telegraph, and telephone.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 297
Postage stamps and postal cards. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . .299
Printing and binding-------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 954
Zoological Park— -
Animals---------------------------------------------------------- 301
Animal laboratory and hospital.-----------------------------------. 302
Assistant Secretary, payment to-------------------------------. - - - - - 303
Aviary building---------------------------------------------------- 303
Boundary fence---------------------------------------------------- 301
Maintenance, roads, Walks, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 301
# Public comfort stations.------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 302
Smoot, Lewis E., statement of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 716
Smyrna, Del., post office------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 81
Soldiers' Homes. (See National Homes.)
INDEX. 1007
Page
South Bethlehem, Pa., post office. . . . . . . .----------------------------------- 82
Southern Branch, Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Spanish War, arrears of pay--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 502
Sparta, Wis., post office.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :- - - - 82
Springfield, Mass., Arsenal:
Coal bins and conveyors---------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 365
Fire protection and brick vault. . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 367
Power plant---------------------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 368
Street, repairs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 366
Stamford, Conn., post office-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "- - - - - - - - - 82
Stamford, Tex., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 82
Standards, Bureau of: -
Chemical laboratory------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 622
Export products, certification of.-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - 626
Large Scales, testing of.------------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - _- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 621
Radio research work, laboratory for.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 623
Transverse testing machine, site and laboratory. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 622
State Department, printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 897
State Soldiers' Homes, aid to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 495
Steubenville, Ohio, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 82
Stimpson, W. G., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 269
Stirling, G. A., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 842
Stratton, S. W., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 621
Streams, gauging of.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 650
Stutler, D. C., claim of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 765
ubtreasuries, contingent expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 248
Sunbury, Pa., post office. . . . .... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 73
Superintendent of national parks, duties of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * ~ * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 677, 687
Supervising Architect, Special report of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 143,936
Suppression of counterfeiting. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... • * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 255
Supreme Court, expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 823
Surveys: -
Coast and Geodetic. (See index under this caption.) -
Geological. (See index under this caption). . . . . . . * . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 645
Northern and nortWestern lakes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 466, 511
Public lands. (See index under this caption). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... - - - - - - 643
Syracuse, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 83
Sycamore, Ill., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 83
T.
Tallman, Clay, statement of....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 631
Tamaqua, Pa., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 83
Tarboro, N. C., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 83
Tarentum, Pa., post office. . . . . . . '- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -------------- -------------- 83
Taylor, Harry, statement of. -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 452
Taylorville, Ill., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84
Territorial Soldiers' Homes, aid to . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 495
Testing machine, transverse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 622
Testing of large scales. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 621
The Dalles, Oreg., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84
Thomasville, Ga., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 84
Thompson, B. B., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 462
Thompson, H. S., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 754
Thompson, N. S., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 173
Thompson, W. N., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 192, 248
Three Rivers, Mich., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 84
Tides, observation of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 541
Tiffin, Ohio, post office. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 84
Tillamook Bay and Bar, Oreg., improving. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 456
Tittmann, O. H., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 508
Titusville Pa., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • - 85
Todd, G. C., statement of... . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = a s sº s s as sº * * * * * * 754.
Togus, Me., Branch Soldiers' Home. (See National Home.)
Tonner, J. A., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 897
Topographic surveys. . . . . . . . . .* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 646
Training School for boys. . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 842
L008 INDEX.
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Transverse testing machine, site, and laboratory. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 622
Treasury Department: -
Buildings— .
Auditor's Building. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Butler Building. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Pºins and Printing (new). (See detailed index under this Čap-
tion.
Treasury Building. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
- Conversion of 2 per cent bonds into 3 per cent bonds. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 233
Counterfeiting, suppression of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . 255
Customs Service. (See detailed index under this caption.) -
Dies, rolls, and plates, custody of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 219
Distinctive paper for United States securities. . . . . . . . * - - - - - - - - - - - - 233,240, 939
Engraving and Printing. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Gold coins, recoinage of.-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 253
Independent Treasury, contingent expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 248
Internal revenue, (See detailed index under this caption.)
Life-Saving Service. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Minor coins, recoinage of . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . 253
Money laundry machines. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 229, 254
Paper money. (See Engraving and Printing.)
Printing and binding. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 898
Public buildings. (See detailed index under this caption, and see also names
of places and buildings.) *
Public Health Service. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Revenue-Cutter Service. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Trusses for soldiers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 464
Tulsa, Okla., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85.
Tupelo, Miss., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85
- TJ.
United States bonds, conversion of 2 per cent into 3 per cent. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 233
United States courts:
Attorneys. (See also Justice, Department of.) jº
Attorney General, Special assistants to... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 809
Bailiffs and criers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 821
Clerks, ſees of.-------------------------------------------------------- 818
. Commissioners and justices of peace, fees of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 818
District attorney, District of Columbia, office of. . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 809
District attorneys— -
Pay of and regular assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 808
Special assistants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 809
Jurors, fees of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 818
Marshals and deputy marshals, Salaries, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 806
Grand jurors, summoning of by mail. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 808
Passenger-carrying vehicles, marshal's office, Washington, D. C. . . . . . . 807.
Miscellaneous expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 82].
National Training School for Boys. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Penitentiaries. (See Atlanta, Leavenworth, and McNeil Island.)
Prisoners, support of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 824
Prisons and prisoners, inspection of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 767
Rent of rooms. --------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . 820
Supplies.-------------------------------------------------------------- 823
Supreme Court, expenses. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 823
Witnesses, fees of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 819
United States notes. (See Engraving and Printing.) - .
United States reports. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 805
United States Securities, witness of destruction of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 221
Urbana, Ill., post office............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85
Utica, N. Y., post office:
Construction of extension. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - 85
Rent of quarters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86
Uvalde, Tex., post office...................... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * = as s sº as we sº m, 86
Valley City, N. Dak., post office---------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 86
Valparaíso, Ind., post office------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 86
Valuation of railroads----------------------------------------------------- 327, 940
Vancouver, Wash., post office----------------------------------------------. 86
Van Wert, Ohio, post office------------------------------------------------. 87
Vaughn, Dan C., statement of----------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 916
Vicksburg, Miss., peace celebration at . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . 404
Vicksburg National Park---------------------------------------------------- 402
Wainwright, D. B., statement of--------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 508
Wakefield, Va., birthplace of George Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Walcott, C. D., statement of . . . . . ----------------------------------------- 291, 954
Walsh, Frank P., statement of----------------------------------------------- 943
Waltham, Mass., post office------------------------------------------------. 87
War Department: -
Appliances for soldiers-------------------------------------------------- 464
Armories and Arsenals. (See detailed index under this caption.)
Arrears of pay, War with Spain-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502
Artificial limbs. . . . .----------------------------------- - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 462
Back pay and bounty claims---------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 501
Buildings and grounds in and around Washington. (See detailed index
under this caption.) 3.
California Débris Commission. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 456
Crater Lake Park, improvement of.---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 421, 941
Engineer School and post, Washington, D. C. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 423
Governors Island, N. Y., repairs to seawall. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 424
Maps----------------------------------------------------------------- . 424
Military posts. (See detailed index under this caption.)
National Cemeteries. (See detailed index under this caption.)
National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers. (See detailed index under
this caption.)
National military parks. (See names of parks.)
Printing and binding---------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 899
Providence Hospital, contract with.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 465
Revolutionary records. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - 343
Rivers and harbors work-------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 452
Survey of northern and northwestern lakes, comparison with Coast Sur-
VCY - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 466, 511
Trusses for soldiers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 464
Yellowstone Park, roads in----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 414
Warfield, W. A., statement of.---------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 745
War revenue stamps, printing of.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 216, 939
War with Spain, arrears of pay-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502
Washed money-----------------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . 229, 254
Washington, George, birthplace of............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - 447
Washington Monument-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 447
Washington post office, heat and light.--------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 879,926
Washington, Ga., post office------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 88
Washington, Ind., post office-----. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 88
Washington, Iowa, post office....... . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 88
Water supply, determination of.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 650
Waterloo, N. Y., post office. . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------------- 89
Watertown Arsenal, Mass.: t
Smith shop, new roof-------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 368
Testing machines-----------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 369
Watervliet Arsenal, N. Y.: -
Boring and turning lathe... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 370
Fire protection--------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 370
Gun Shop, lights in-------------------------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 369
Power plants, increasing---------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 369
Waynesville, N. C., post office.-------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
Webb City, Mo., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- * * * * * * * * * * - - - - - * * * * * * = - - - - - - - - - 89
Webb, John A., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 405
Welker, P. A., statement of.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 508
72785–15—64
1010 INDEX.
Wellsburg, W. Va., post office............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
Wenatchee, Wash., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 89
Wenderoth, Oscar, statement of . . . . . ------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . . 119, 173, 177
Western Branch, Soldiers Home. (See National Home.) f
Weston, F. F., statement of. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * ~ * * * * * . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 898
Wetmore, J. A., statement of.--------------------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 93
White House. (See Executive Mansion.) ..
White slave act, violations of... . . . . * sº º ºs º ºs s ∈ s sº sº as sº º is sº sº º sº gº sº sº s = ºs sº -------------- 762
White, William A., statement of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7].6
Wilkesboro, N. C., post office and courthouse. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . § - - - - - * - - - - - 90
Williamson, W. Va., post office.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 90
Williston, N. Dak., post 'office... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
Willow, Cal., post office..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 90, 119, 128
Willow Tree Park, care and maintenance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 441
Wilmington, N. C., customhouse and appraisers’ stores:
Construction of..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 90
Rent of quarters................ . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 90
Wilson, N. C., post office................. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - 91
Winchester, Ky., post office: - -
Rent of quarters.------------------------------------------------------- 91
Second story, changes, etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 91
Winchester, Tenn., post office.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91
Wind Cave National Park...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 699
Winder Building, mechanical equipment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
Winfield, Kans., post office. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 91
Wireless communication, laboratory for research work. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 623
Witness of destruction of United States securities............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 221
Witnesses, fees of... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 819
Woods, Elliott:
Letters from . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - s = e = * * * * * * * * * * * * 977, 978
Statement of.---------------------------------------------------------- 927
Wytheville, Va., post office.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 92
Y.
Yellowstone National Park:
Buffalo, feed for...... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---------------------------- 678
Care of.-------------------------------------------------------------- 677
Estimates for, submission by Interior Department. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 417
Maintenance and repair of improvements.-----------. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 414
Policing of, by civilians.----------------------------------------------. 677
Roads, bridges, and culverts.----------------------------------------. . . . 416
Roads, bridges, etc., through forest reserve... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 417
Roads, width of.------..... . . . . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4.18
Yonkers, N. Y., post office.......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * = , - - - - - - - - 92
Yosemite National Park, care and improvement............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 684,.691
Ypsilanti, Mich., post office..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 92
- Z.
Zoological Park. . . . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 301
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