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STATEMENT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
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on conditions in the Philippine
Islands,by Felipe Buencamino.
May 31,June 3 and 4,1902.
Washington
Government printing office
1902




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T. Th; -PARDO DE~ TAV.ERAG
COMMITTEE ON INSULAR AFFAIRS,
Saturday. ilky 31, 19O02.
K<'The committee met at 11 o'clock a. in., Hon. Henry A. Cooper in
tjie chair.
STATEMENT OF MR. FELIPE BUENCAMINO, THROUGH MR. FRANK
L. JOANNINI, INTERPRETER.
The, CHAIRMAN. We have with us this morning Sefior Buencamino,
formerly a meinher of A guinaldo's cabinet. He comes dir-ect f roin
the Philippine, Islands, and we are here for the purpose of listening to
his statement.
Please tell us your nimme.
Mr. BUENCATMINo. Felipe Buencamino.
The CHAIRMAN, You are a native of the Philippine Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU were, secretary of state of the cabinet of
Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. When were you captured by the American forces?
Mr. BUENCAMiNo. November 20, 1899.
ofThe CHAIRMAN. You are now in the eniploy of the civil government
-fthe islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In what capacity?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. As a member of the civil-service board.
The CHAIRMAN. How canie you to come, to the United States?
Mr. BUENCAM~INO. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee:
Before answering the question, Mr. Chairman, permit nie to express <
the happy emotion that I feel at this moment, an emotidp which comes
from my heart, an emotion coming fro   tesoul 6;f my country,
because after a voyage of f orty-seven days I have the honor and pleasueof AP earing before the sovereign of my countrl, represented by
t~il —wot committee. My1q c,,oiimntry may be likened unto asick man,
convalescing from a very serious illness. She is still bloody and coyered with wounds from the past war. The purposes of these wars
have been to secure justice, peace, and liberty. My country looks at
liberty and peace as General Washington did. That is to say, liberty
moderated by justice; justice moderated by liberty. At present
is the idea we have in the Philippines of the American-sover~igr
-which we now love, and consequently this moment is a very happy
one. for me when I appear before this sovereign, composed of Republicans and Democrats; they are all children of Washington, and they
must love. liberty and justice, and I come to represent my people,
hoping that this sovereignty will give my people a ju.st and liberal
government.
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The following is the reason for which I came:
As the commissioner of the Federal party, as well as the influential!   insurgents and all the commanders of the Katipunan Society-and I
have the evidence here in my possession to prove the statement, and I
will be glad to present the evidence if you so wish.
The CHAIRMAN. We will examine the credentials later. Where were
you at the time of the fighting or when the war, so called, began on
the 4th of February, 1899?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In Malolos.
The CHAIRMAN. How far from the scene of conflict?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Thirty-six miles.
The CHAIRMAN. -Prior to that outbreak at that time you were secre- X:
tary of state of Aguinaldo's cabinet?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was not at that time secretary of state, but
director of justice in the army. Mabini was at that timne secretary of
state.,The CHAIRMAN. Do you know whether prior to that outbreak there
had been preparations made by the insurgents themselves for the; beginning of hostilities?
' Mr. BUENCAMINO. There had been preparations made.
s     The CHAIRMAN. For how long a time prior to that outbreak had the
~   preparations been in progress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Since October, 1898. At that time they received
a telegram from Agoncillo from Washington, stating that he had not
been received by President McKinley as the representative of the
Philippine government and that we should make preparations for war.
The CHAIRMAN. Of what did those preparations consist?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The preparations were to organize the armv
through General Luna; organize volunteer corps in Manila in order to
assist the insurgents the day of the breaking out of hostilities. and in
order to get the American forces between two fires.
The CHAIRMAN. Were the preparations in Manila secret?
Mr. BUENCAMIN'O. Yes; they were secret.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the intention of the insurgents after
those preparations were completed; what did they intend to do?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The Philippine goverlnent established by Aguinaldo at Malolos was established because Aguinaldo had promised that
the United States would recognize their independence, giving in evidence the statement of Admiral Dewey, and we all gathered around
Aguinaldo under the hope of obtaining the realization of that promise,
and in order to obtain a confirmation of this proclamation to us fromr
the lips of President McKinley himself we sent Agoncillo to Washington, and as this telegram was sent from Washington saying that we
would be deceived preparations for war were at once begun, having
lost confidence in the Americans on account of the error committed by
Aguinaldo in stating that the promise had been made by Admiral
Dewey of recognizing the Philippine independence by the United
Sties.
The CHIAIRM1AN. The Filipinos have understood since that Admiral
Dewey has denied that statements
Mr. BUENCAMINO. At thattime Xguingldo was their idol and they
had great faith in him, as he was the only one who had relations with
Admiral Dewey; they thought he was telling the truth.
The CHAIRMAN. Is it not a fact that the only one of the Philippine
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; he was the only one.                 j
The CHAIRMAN. And no one else among the Filipino leaders pretended that he knew anything of this alleged promise of Admiral Dewey
except Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. General Alexandrino has also said this, that he
was on a transport with Admiral Dewey, coming with his squadron
from Hongkong to Manila.
The CHAIRMAN. The Filipinos now understand that Admiral Dewey
denies that statement, and that Admiral Dewey in his report says he
obeyed the instructions of President McKinley not to make any such
promise or alliance?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They know that now.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know how the hostilities began on the night
of the 4th of February?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I know, because I was charged by General Aguinaldo to prepare the necessary papers showing the manner of the
breaking out of hostilities.
The CHAIRMAN. Just describe that as you understand it.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On the 4th of February the towns of Santa
Ana and San Juan del Monte were under the command of General
Ricarte and Colonel San Miguel. On this day those two commanders
abandoned their posts and went to a ball, leaving a major by the name
of Gras, about 26 years of age, very young and without experience,
in command of about 1,800 troops. They extended along the eastern
part of the outskirts of Manila and were about half a mile distant
from the American troops. We took the deposition of this major,
who said that about 9 o'clock p. im. the sergeant of the guard came
to his headquarters and told him that a party of American troops
desired to cross their lines or were attempting to cross their lines,
which was opposed by the Philippine guards. At this time a shot was
heard; that he could not say for certain whether the shot came from
the American command or from the men under his command, but he
ran to the place from which the shot appeared to come, and seeing the
American troops in a belligerent attitude gav e an order to fire. That
is the way the hostilities began.
The C(HAIRMAN. The major gave the order to fire upon the American troops?.
Mr. BUENCAUMINO. Yes, sir; lie gave the first order to fire upon the
American troops.
The CHAIRMAN. Then the beginning of hostilities was premature?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On our part it was premature, because three
engineering corps and four cavalry troops had still to be organized.
The CHAIRMAN. If the engineering corps and the cavalry troops had
been afterwards organized, what was the intention of the insurgents  -
under Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The intention was to attack the Americans.
The CHAIRiMAN-. So then the opening of hostilities was simply premature. The hostilities were to be begun by.Aguinaldo anyway a
little later?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. The basis of this was a lack of confidence in the Americans.
The CHAIRMAN. What became of General Luna, who had control
of the organization of the army?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. General Luna was appointed lieutenant-general
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was a very cruel, inhuman man in his connmmand, because from that
date, October, 1898, to June 5, 1900, when he died, he had ordered
the execution of 160 persons, under the pretext of their being spies
and traitors. His cruelty went to such extremes that when I was visited from Manila by my mother-in-law, my sister-in-law, and lmy two
sons, who are minors, and who are at present in San Francisco, he
ordered them arrested and said that they were spies; and he also
ordered the execution of Baron Dumarais, the French agent of the
General Tobacco Company, of Manila, who entered our camp requesting an interview with Aguinaldo to treat on tobacco questions in the
province of Cagayan, where many millions of dollars are invested in
tobacco. By reason of these cruelties the public almost demanded his
removal; but he was a very active and intelligent military man, a great
patriot, and was very brave, and he had a large number of admirers
among the military men. Aguinaldo objected to many of his orders,
and that was the reason for the differences between them. Two bands
were then formed within the Philippine army, one for General Luna
and the other for General Aguinaldo. On April 18, 1899, there was
a conflict between General Mascardo and General Luna in the province of Pampanga. General Mascardo was one of the most intimate
friends of General Aguinaldo, and had been the companion of Aguinaldo since the insurrection of 189;9. General Luna desired to subject
General Mascardo to his order, and General Mascardo objected.
Thus, on this morning, April 18, 1899, General Luna took 800 soldiers from the trenches of Bagbag, who were facing the trenches of
General MacArthur at Malolos, a distance of about 8 miles, and they
went in the opposite direction to search for General Mascardo and
capture hini. General Mascardo also prepared himself with 500 men
to fight the soldiers of General Luna.
At 10 o'clock in the morning that same day General MacArthur
attacked General Luna's trenches, and took the same day the town of
Quingua, which was defended by General Aguinaldo. General Aguinaldo called on General Luna to attack the flank of General MacArthur, but General Luna was not at his post; he was 25 miles beyond,
looking for General Mascardo. At 3 o'clock in the afternoon the troops
were all ready to have a combat when they received advices stating that
*    General MacArthur had defeated General Aguinaldo at Quingua. This
was the cause for the suspension of internal dissensions among us, but
the motives were still held in reserve. Subsequently thereto, the following May, it was found that General Luna wanted to effect a coup
d'etat to supplant Aguinaldo. It was even known that he had fixed the
13th of June for his blow.
The CHAIRMAN. What year was that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1899. All the dates I am referring to now were
in 1899.
The CHAIRMAN. That was the date set by General Luna for the seizure of Aguinaldo and the control of the government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; that day was also his feast day, the day
which is celebrated in the Philippines instead of the birthday.
Then General Aguinaldo decided on the suppression of General
Luna, and he collected 4,000 men and went to look for General Luna,
leaving the town where the captain-general was temporarily on June 1.
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Bayambang. But what I can not explain is the coincidence that upon
the same day that Aguinaldo was arriving at the residence of General
Luna. General Luna on the same day and at the same hour was also
arriving at General Aguinaldo's house.
The CHAIRMAN. How far were they apart?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Seventy-five miles. General Luna was killed in
the lower part of General Aguinaldo's house by General Aguinaldo's
guards.
The CHAIRMAN. Who of General Luna's staff were present with him?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Francisco Roman and his aid-de-camp.
The CHAIRMAN. General Luna was killed?
Mr. BUENCAITNO. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. What other persons of Aguinaldo's family were
there?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. His mother, his sister, his wife, and his children.
The CHAIRMAN. Where were.thev?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In the upper part of the building in which General Luna was killed.
The CHAIRMAN. General Luna was killed just outside of General
Aguinaldo's house by General Aguinaldo's personal guards?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What effect on the insurrection did the assassination of General Luna have?
Mr. BUENCAM.INO. From a sentimental point of view, I can not say
that many persons were pleased with it. but it can be said that they
breathed freely, because the very morning of the death of General
Luna, at 5 o'clock, he had ordered two executions, and consequently
everybody considered their lives and persons in danger. So while I
will not say that many rejoiced at the death of General Luna, they
breathed easier.
The CHAIRMAN. Did it create among the staffs of the generals any
weakening of power of the insurrection after that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Everybody lost confidence in this insurrection by
this occurrence. It can be said that from that time the insurrection
had morally died, and since that time I have felt that we could never
be independent unless we had an independence such as that of some
small state.
The CHAIRMAN. How does the present condition of the poor peoplethe poor classes of the islands in the cities and the country-compare
with their condition under the Spanish Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In one word, they may be compared as happiness
and misery. Under the Spanish Government a poor Filipino had the
following contributions to make:
In the first place, a forced military service; all males between 18 and
21 years of age were obliged to be soldiers in the military service. Second, all males between 18 and 60 years of age were obliged to work for
forty days under compulsion; and if they did not want to work, they
had to pay 3 pesos. This very heavy tax was later reduced to fifteen
days by a decree of Minister Maura, the best Spanish minister which
the Philippine Islands have had. In addition, a male between 18 and
60 years of age was obliged to pay $2.25 Mexican for a personal certificate, and his wife would also have to pay 2 pesos Mexican, so that
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lieutenant or commander of the ward, the collector of taxes, the petty
governor or local president, the friar and the friar's assistant, the civil
guard, and the head of the province, and all Spaniards living in the
town-so that if a poor man had a hen or a good horse, not only would
they take his hen or horse away from himl without giving him any
equivalent, but, having only one and only having enough to give to one
person, the remaining six, who were not favored, became enemies of
this particular man.
Now, according to the nlunicipal code established by the Civil Commission, all the charges and authorities have disappeared, so that now
the poor man does not recognize any authority in the town or municipality except the municipal president, and he has no American in the
town except the teacher who teaches him, which teacher pays him $1
for his hen, which was previously worth under the Spanish Government only 25 cents, if the 25 cents were paid, but the American Army
in going into the Philippines paid,1 for hens, and this price has been
maintained. Consequently, I can state, without controverting the
truth and without exaggerating at all, that the difference between the
present and the former condition of affairs in the Philippines is like
the difference between misery and happiness.
The CHAIRMAN. What effect has the establishment of a municipal
government by the Taft Conmmission had on the people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It has been very satisfactory-to such an extent
that they have now 800 municipalities. Of the masses composing these
municipalities, about 5,000,1)000 Christians have attended the elections,
and voted without restriction for their candidates for municipal councilors and municipal presidents. and they in addition pay the taxes
which have been prescribed by the municipal council within the legal
powers. I consider this an evidence, when the masses conme to the
elections and then go and pay their taxes, that the law which orders
these acts which they perform must be satisfactory.
We have 8,000 municipal employees, and of these 8,000 municipal
employees when 1 left Manila, as a member of the civil service board
I can state the following fact: There are only 10 of these 8,000 municipal employees who are suspended from their offices, which is also an
evidence that the law is being complied with faithfully, and also proves
the full capacity of the Filipino for local self-government.
The CHAIRMAN. Under the civil and provincial governments established by the Taft Conlmission, do not the people of the Philippine
Islands enjoy greater liberty than they would have enjoyed under the
Aguinaldo government, if it had been established?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They have much more liberty. Although the liberal provisions of the Maura law gave suffrage, the person elected could
not take possession of his office until after being appointed by the
captain-general, so that the election did not mean the final appointment, the final appointment being in the hands of the Spanish governor-general. Now, under the municipal code, after the election has
been made, those elected enter finally upon the discharge of their
duties; so that the popular election is the credential of appointment.
Thus the sovereign local jurisdiction comes directly from the people.
The people understand this, and, as is natural, it is very satisfactory to
the people.
The CHAIRMAN. That is an advantage that would not have been
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; that would not have been enjoyed under
Aguinaldo's government, because they had the same provisions as
under the Spanish Government.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the feeling of the people of the islands
toward Governor Taft and the Commission'.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Governor Taft is now the idol of the Filipino
people. I wish to explain what I mean by this word "idol." Socially
the Filipino people have the defect of lack of a common language.
President Roosevelt speaks, and he is understood by the 80,000,000
Americans, but I, speaking the Spanish language, the scientific language of the country, am only understood by about 25,000 Filipinos; f
so that in order to be understood bv the remainder interpreters are
necessary, and if these interpreters do not care for you the truth never,
reaches the hearing of the people. It is necessary to be an idol of
these interpreters to have the truth reach the people. That is the
present social status of the people with regard to language.
I only know three idols of my people-Dr. Rizal, General Aguinaldo
in his time. when we had faith in the promises and statements made by
him with regard to the statements of Admiral Dewey. and now Governor Taft. Governor Taft has had the tact to visit all the provinces
of the archipelago, to extend his hand to all of the most irreconcilable
insurgents, of giving light to the most ignorant: and my people idolize
him greatly now, to such an extent that when he makes a statement he '
is truly and exactly interpreted to the people. In truth, I may state
that there is no American in the Philippines who is as popular as Governor Taft at the present time. I can also assure you that I do not
believe I am in the absolute confidence of Governor Taft, on account 1Nl
of my radical ideas.
The CHAIRMAN. I will ask you this question: The Taft Commission
in its report, and Governor Taft personally in his testimony before
this committee, urged very strongly that there be provided by law a
legislature for the Philippine Islands, of which the lower house should
be elected by the Filipino people, thinking that that would have a good
effect upon the Filipinos in educating them for self-government.
The bill which this committee has reported contains a provision for
the establishment of such a legislature with the Philippine Commission,
the Taft Commission, for the upper house. In your opinion would it
be wise for us to enact that into law at this session, as urged by Governor Taft?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I wish to ask some questions before answering.
The Filipino people, like most peoples, is composed of intelligent, semiintelligent, and ignorant people, but there has been a custom of looking at domestic questions more than political questions. The Philippine
people have been governed for two hundred years by the royal
audiencia of Manila, which is a supreme court of justice, and secondly,
the juridical sense among the Philippine people is very high. The
difference between justice and injustice is very evident to the Filipino.
Before the arrival of the Spaniards in the Philippines they had this
knowledge of the difference between justice and injustice, as is shown
in the Tagal words "katuiran at hindi katuiran."
You understand, therefore, that above political questions we would
like to know what we are as citizens, because the question of nationality should supersede the political questions. Are we Americans, or
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Federal party and the majority of the Philippine people, and I will
now give my opinion in regard to the matter of the legislature that
you spoke of-that the legislature you suggest is very advisable, as is
recommended by Governor Taft and the Commission of which he is
the president.,,:.  But the Philippine people would be more pleased to be able to say:.9!    that this lower chamber is a chamber of Americans, and not a chamber of foreigners.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the proposition of the bill-that the members of the lower house are to be elected by the people of the Philippine Islands.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Not native Filipinos, however.
The CHAIRMAN. No; but they will have the majority, of course, and
can elect whom they please.
Mr. TAWNEY. Does he understand that under the bill referred to by
the chairman a lower house may be constituted entirely of Filipinos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, I understand that; but I would prefer that
-this chamber be called a chamber of Americans and not of Filipinos;
that is, to suppress the name "Filipino" and call them Americans.
The CHAIRMAN. Your idea is, then, that the happiness and welfare
of the Filipino people, for the present at least, depends upon American
sovereignty of those islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; it is.
The CHAIRMAN. You may go on with any statement now which you
would like to present to the committee.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In the first place, I wish to accredit my representation before the committee. [Mr. Buencamino here produced and
handed to the committee a photograph.] This photograph represents
the party who came to bid me farewell-of all the leaders of the Katipunan Society.
The CHAIRMAN. On what date did you leave Manila?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On April 14.
The CHAIRMAN. And came directly to the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Came directly to the United States. I made a
stop at Honolulu for a few days.
In this picture, composed of the leaders of the Katipunan Society,
can be seen the proof of their desire to become Americans by the coat
of arms on the picture, which is an evident proof of their satisfaction
with the laws of the Commission.
The CHAIRMAN. This society desires that the Filipinos should become
Americans; is that the idea?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The Katipunan Society?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The persons in the foreground are the heads of
the Katipunan, and in the background are other members.
The CHAIRMAN. Proceed with anything else you desire to say.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I also come on behalf of the prominent insurgents
who were formerly friends of Aguinaldo.
The CHAIRMAN. Name them?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. General Trias and the entire general staff of
— General Malvar assure me of General Malvar's consent to the action
of the Federal party.
The CHAIRMAN. Is Malvar the general recently captured in Samar?
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The CHAIRMAN. On what island?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In Batangas, in the island of Luzon.         The general captured was General Lueban. General Trias and others have
some wishes which they desire me to submit to the committee.
The CHAIRMAN. We can receive those and print them as a part of
your statement. We can have that printed right in his statement.
Please tell us who General Trias was
The papers referred to and presented by Mr. Buencamino are as
follows:
[Translated by Frank L. Joannini, Insular Division, War Department.]
CAVITE, April 11, 1902.
Mr. FELIPE BUENCAMINO.
ESTEEMED SIR AND FRIEND: In the postscript to your letter of the 27th ultimo you
informed me that you would leave for the United States on the 20th instant,
incidentally asking me for any orders or instructions which I might have, and for
which I sincerely thank you.
I congratulate you on your voyage and at the same time I congratulate myself in
so far as my province is concerned, and I am led to believe that it will redound to
the great advantage of the country in general.
In view of your fitness, orders and instructions appear superfluous, but in order
that they may possibly serve you something I give you my poor opinion which I
would ardently desire to see realized.
Speak for the encouragement of public instruction and all branches of science, by
means of the establishment of institutions tinder the protection of the Government,
changing the old methods and giving education a new channel.
Do all you can to secure the disappearance of the irritating distinction which
reigns here with regard to the salaries in official positions. "Equality before the
law and unity of races must be proclaimed."
With regard to the purchase of the property of corporations by the Government
for distribution in lots to their present tenants, it would be advisable to have the
titles of ownership legalized first and the property carefully appraised so that the
tenants will not be obliged to pay an exorbitant price therefor.
Tell the truth and nothing but the truth, and show that the country, without
deserving it, has several bitter enemies-the friars, the Chinese, and even the Spaniards. These are those who desire that the Filipinos should be divided, for should
they agree, good-bye to the good dinners and bargains.
Chinese immigration is highly' prejudicial to the country, and although the lack of
labor is now evident that is not because of the natives but the lack of encouragement,
equity, and especially a certain amount of despotism and lack of confidence with
which the Philippine employees are usually treated. The failure of the gang of
laborers organized and sent by you to Abra or Benguet finds an explanation in this.
In the arsenal of this port it is observed that little by little salaries are being
reduced and that they will continue to be reduced without doubt to the level of that
of the laborers of the Varadero of Cafiacao. The equality in the salaries of this
institution has its raison d'etre in the change of the permanent character of the
employment of those who prove their qualifications, which is not the case in the
arsenal with regard to the Philippine laborers, while the Chinese or natives of Macao
never suffered any change and are better established than anybody else.
You must confess without doubt that modesty or courtesy was always a great
defect in the country. I do not know if on account of our own ignorance, but I
believe that it is a conscientious duty to apply a remedy where a subterfuge or an
injustice appears under the pretext of a question of language.
Convinced by experience I find that the natives of Macao hardly speak English,
and if they do make themselves understood by the Americans it is only on account
of the great or little toleration of the latter.
With this picture before us it appears to me that it is not necessary to make any
commentary as to whether, on the whole, we are in a similar state as under the Spanish domination.
Another of the crises through which the country is passing is the currency question. As we have a flag to show in international matters, money, the basis of moral
and material stability of any organization, is also necessary that it should be uniform; that it should have a real and effective value or a genuine representation.
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progress, permit mle to suggest to you that you insistantly advocate the enlistment of
the Filipinos into the Army and Navy.
Would that with a decision of this kind the people may enjoy the benefits of
liberty! Then you would again see how the Philippines are the real paradise of
peace and tranquility.
Do not forget those deported to Guam and advocate their return; but know that I
do not say this only on account of my brother, but for all.
With considerations of friendship and esteem, I salute you affectionately.
Your obedient servant,
MARIANO FRIAS.
LIPA, BATANG(AS, April 15, 1902-9.45 a. mI.
Sefior BUENCAMINO,
Transport B qford, Mlrnt ila, P. 1.:
Malvar and Gonzales asked for an interview. These two generals' surrender is
sure. War is over.
GUZMAN.
SANTO ToArAs, VIA CAL1AMBA, Aprdi 14 —1?2.35 p. im.
Sefior FELIPE BUENCAMIXNO
Calle Suginn to, Manila:
In congratulating you for the special distinction which the Government of the United
States of America has bestowed upon you, I have the satisfaction of signifying you
that until the end of this month the pacification of this province will be complete
and the Philippine revolution at an end. Captain Johnston, Fifteenth Cavalry, brigadier provost-judge of this brigade, has seconded with admirable political tact our
negotiations with the forces of General Gonzalez and those of the captured Colonel
Hernandez, the only ones of importance remaining in this province. From San Juan
de Bocboc Guzman directs the popular movement against Malvar and his family,
his only escort, as a general protest in favor of peace, and after the surrender of General Gonzalez here peace should be declared definitely. In this movement I have
received from Sefior Aguielera a copy of a letter received yesterday from General
Malvar soliciting a conference.
Wishing you a pleasant voyage.
LUNA.
TANAVAN (VIA CALAMBIA), LAG(sUNA, April 17, 1902-1.30 p. m.
Sefior FELIPE BUtENCAMINO,
Calle Sagunto, M3cnila (Tondo):
The surrender of general was verified yesterday morning at Lipa before General
Bell, Captain Brown, and Lieutenant Harrison. General Gonzalez surrendered to
Capt. W. T. Johnson, brigade provost-judge, Tanauan, at 2 p. m. yesterday, asking
for five days' grace to enable him to gather together his entire command, who will
surrender in Tanauan. This request was immediately granted by Captain Johnston.
Later on in the afternoon, on the arrival of General Bell in Tanauan, the surrender
was verified before General Bell, Captain Johnston, and the commanding officer at
Tanauan, Major Bowen. The war is completely terminated.
LUNA, AGULERA, AND LAQUI.
BATANGAS, April 16, 1902 —4.40. m.
FELIPE BUENCAMINO,
Villalobos 37 (Transport Buford), Manila:
Presentado Malvar hoy esta en Lipa. Manana se vendira Coronel Gonzalez en
Tanauan.
GLORIA.
LIPA (BATANGAS), April 16, 1902-7.35 a. m.
Sefior FELIPE BUENCAMINO,
Transport Buford, Manila, P. I.:
Yesterday at 3 o'clock, afternoon, we took General Malvar out of Rosario woods.
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The Colunna will go with mne to Tanauan to conclude the begun contract with
General Gonzalez. Our work is over. Perhaps we may see each other before his
departure.
GUZMAN.
(Approved. Johnston, captain, Fifteenth Cavalry.)
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was the next in popularity after Aguinaldo,
and he was a lieutenant-general also of the army.
The CHAIRMAN. Please tell the substance of what this man says;
what the sentiments now of General Trias are.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Completely American. To such an extent that
he receives from General Chaffee 200 rifles to pursue and tight Malvar
around the outskirts of Cavite, and General Cailles, who is also an
insurgent, also received 200 rifles from General Chaffee to pursue
Malvar through the outskirts of the province of Laguna, and Malvar
being caught between these two fires, and with the forces of General
Bell in the interior of Batangas, and being surrounded from Cavite
and Laguna by the forces of General Cailles and General Trias, he
surrendered.
But it must be remembered that Batangas was the heart of the
trouble, of the war against America, while Cavite was the center of
operations of insurrection against Spain. Mabini, the head of.the
irreconcilables,. is a native of Batangas. and Agoncillo and Ilustre, the
principal members of the Hongkong junta, are natives of Batangas,
* and Senior Lopez, who lives in Boston, also an irreconcilable insurgent,
is also a native of Batangas. All these men belong to very prominent
families of Batangas. They are all honest and intelligent men. I
believe they are working in good faith, although in my opinion they
are completely wrong.
These men were those who were encouraging Malvar to continue
the war against the United States, but by mneans of the strong and
humane work of General Bell, it was made possible that Malvar instead
of being captured should surrender. because his surrender decides the
political question, and his capture would have been nothing but the
expression of a victory of the Army.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, do I understand that this surrender of Malvar
was brought about by two former insurgent generals, Trias and Cailles?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They cooperated a good deal.
The CHAIRMAN. You may proceed with any other statement you
wish to make showing the conditions over there.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. As I have already stated, I come from the Filipino people, and I come in the firm hope of being able to obtain a just
and liberal governnlent, and if we could obtain the American citizenship it would be a great thing. If that can not be done, we are also
resigned; and this is a question of sovereignty which is to be decided
by you who are the sovereigns. But I wish to let it be known that
our desires are to obtain a just and liberal government, and to become
Americans. If Congress does not agree with our wishes it has a perfect right to disagree, but it will be responsible for the future because
we, the Filipinos, have already submitted unconditionally to the will
of Congress.
Speaking of a just and liberal government, I wish to express the
opinion of the Philippine people. The opinions of the Philippine people consist at the present time in the following only, that every
national work is similar to an individual work, and as a young man
must learn and be educated, because it is a law of the time which




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governs his existence, thus also my people now need a lot of education, much instruction, and a firm and strong government, supported
by the constitutional and executive powers of America.  If the
Americans or the Filipinos who are to govern my country are to be
all the time censured here, are to be represented here as tyrants and
barbarians and thieves all the time, or as Herods, then what prestige
could the Congress of the United States have in the Philippines?
Therefore it is not necessary for my people now to question the
facts, but what the government needs is to cure its wounds. Give it
life and health, and the life of the nation consists principally in a good
system of education and a good economical system in order to encourage agriculture, industry, and commerce.
It is also the wish of my party that I express their desire to have
an allowance of $100,000 per annum made for the education of young
Filipinos in America embodied in the proposed bills.
The CHAIRMAN. Permit me to say right there that the government
of the Philippines is not prohibited by.this bill fron making that hundred thousand dollar allowance if it so desires. They might make
that provision.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. But it would be an assured fact if it were expressed
specifically in the bill, if there is no objection thereto, or if it is within
the power of Congress to do so.
The CHAIRMAN. I know from the statements of Governor Taft that
he is in favor of some provision being made for the sending of students to this country to study our institutions and methods.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have come to establish the best relations between
the sentiments of our people and the sovereign power, and if the sovereignty can grant this concession, it would be one more flower which
I could present to my people.
The CHAIRMAN. Do any members of the committee wish to question
the witness?
Mr. JONES. What order shall we observe in examining the witness?
I will say for the minority members of the committee that we want
to examine him probably at some length.
The CHAIRM'AN. I should think, then, that we should adjourn until
2 o'clock as there is no session of the House to-day.
(Informal discussion with regard to adjournment followed.)
Mr. JONES. We would like to know whether it is the purpose to
discharge the witness and to let him go before this testimony is printed.
I would like very much to look over this testimony before he leaves.
How long do you intend to stay?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Until the bill has been voted on.
Mr. JONES. I would like to ask also whether it is your purpose, Mr.
Chairman, or the purpose of the committee, to examine other witnesses on this subject? I do not' know exactly why this one witness
was taken up and brought here to testify.
The CHAIRMAN. Right there I think it is due to the committee and
to the War Department and to the witness for me to call attention to
something 1 have received from the Secretary of War. He told me
of this yesterday, but they could not find these papers, but have found
them since. This letter reads as follows:
WAR DEPARTMENT, ITashhington, May 31, 1902.
DEAR MR. COOPER: I inclose an original letter received by me last March from Mr.
Buencamino's nephew, Mr. Jose C. Abreu, which shows the way in which Mr.
Buencamino happened to come to this country. This is the first that I heard of it,




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and on this I cabled General Chaffee to give him accommodations on a transport.
I inclose also a copy of a card to which the letter refers. Please return the letter
when you are through with it.
I inclose also a copy of my answer to Mr. Abreu's letter, which contains the
cablegram to General Chaffee.
Sincerely, yours,
ELIHU ROOT.
Hon. tHEN-RY A. COOPER,
Chairmcan Committee on Insular A. ftirs, HIouse of Representatires.
Now, here is the letter, dated March 14, 1902, as follows:
WASHINGTON, D. C., March 14, 1902.
Honorable SECRETARY OF WAR, City.
MY DEAR Mr. SECRETARY: I respectfully send you herewith a card from Mr. F.
Buencamino, which he requested me to transmit to you.
In Mr. Buencamino's behalf I have the honor to submit the following matter to
your attention. He says that he would be delighted to be afforded an. opportunity
to visit this country, and to this effect if you would only be pleased to have General
Chaffee grant him the privilege of traveling as an officer and not as mere soldier
aboard one of the military transports, his wishes will be gratified.
Very respectfully,
JOSE C. ABREU.
He is a nephew of Mr. Buencamino.      Then Mr. Root, the Secretary
of War, wrote to Abreu:
WAR DEPARTMENT,
Washington, March 20, 1902.
IM DEAR MR. ABREU: I thank you for the card from Mr. Felipe Buencamino. I
have sent to General Chaffee the following telegraphic dispatch:
"Present to Felipe Beuncamnino the compliments of the Secretary of War, who
would be glad to see him in the United States, and furnish him with such accommodations on a regular army transport as would be given an officer of rank."
With respect and high esteem, I am,
Very sincerely, yours,
ELIHU ROOT.
Mr. JoSE C. ABREU,
In Imlar Division, W'ar Department, W'ashington, D. C.
The card referred to is as follows:
MANILA, P. I., February 27, 1902.
Mr. ROOT, lWar Secretary.
MY DEAR SIR: Permit me to offer you my congratulations for your policy over my
people Philippine Islands. In my people name. I request that you send promptly
hereto Governor Taft.
Respectfully,                              FELIPE BUENCAMINO,
Sangento 316, Tondo.
That is the way that Mr. Buencanino happened to come here.
Mr. JONES. Now, with reference to his appearance before this
committee.
The CHAIRMAN. With reference to his appearance before this committee the Secretary informed me that he was here and asked if I
would like to have him come before the committee.      I told him that I
would, and that I thought the nembers of the committee would like
to have him, and so we made arrangements for to-day.          I did not
know anything of it until yesterday.
Mr. JONES. As this witness has referred to Mr. Sixto Lopez being
in Boston at this time, and has indicated that he entertained different
views from those entertained by himself, and has also spoken of his
honesty in entertaining those views, would it not be possible for the
committee to have him    appear and hear him     after this witness has
finished, so that we would have both sides of this case presented by




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these two Filipinos, both of them of great intelligence and honesty,
who entertain different views?
Mr. TAWNEY. Is he the man you referred to as belonging to the
junta?
Mr. JONES. Yes; Sixto Lopez. He is now in Boston.
Mr. LouD. How long since he has been in the Philippine Islands?
It is a question of getting this man down here and getting his views;
but here is a man who is here now and from whom we can get some
practical information.
Mr. JONES. Nearly all of this man's testimony has been with reference to 1898 and 1899.
Mr. LOUD. No; to my mind he is simply telling how the war broke
out.
The CHAIRMAN. How long has Sixto Lopez been in this country?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. As I have no relations with this gentleman, I can
not say. I do not know if he has been here constantly since he came.
The CHAIRMAN. How long since he has been in the Philippine Islands,
if you know, generally?
M3r. BUENCAMINO. Seven years.
Mr. LOUD. Well. he must have a good deal of practical knowledge
to give this committee, must he not?
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Jones, I understand that that is the reason the
Senate conmmittee refused to call him.
Mr. JONES. I do not knowThe CHAIRMAN. It is simply a question of judgment, and he is a
member of the junta who has been outside as an agitator and has not
been back to acquire any practical knowledge.
Mr. WXILLIAMS, of Illinois. Has this gentleman been before the Senate
committee
A MEMBER. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. The Senate committee is still holding
sessions?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes. sir.
Mr. JONES. He has referred to Mr. Lopez as a gentlemen of honesty,
and he says that he is in Boston, and of course he can be easily gotten,
and I want to move that the committee request him to attend and
testifv at the conclusion of the testimony of this witness.
Mr. TAWNEY. In view of the fact that he has not been in the Philippine Islands for seven years
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He left there, but I do not know whether he has
been back or not-whether he has been here constantly during the
whole time.
Mr. TAWNEY. Do you know whether he has been in the Philippine
Islands during that time, since he left, seven years ago?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; I do not know.
Mr. TAWNEY. Would you likely have known of it had he been back?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I would assuredly have known of that if he had
returned. I can positively state that he has not been there since 1895.
Mr. TAWNEY. In view of that fact, I do not see what testimony the
gentleman could give, except to make a speech on the information
which others communicated to him.
Mr. JONES. I should be very glad to hear him, because probably he
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. I will state that had Sixto Lopez been over there
he would have joined us in the insurrection. He was absent at the
time as Agoncilla's emissary.
The CHAIRMAN. I should think that a witness should first qualify
before he is allowed to testifv. That rule obtains in all proceedings
at law, the qualifications of the witness being inquired into by the
court. I would myself be Opposed to calling a man so long absent
from the islands.
(Informal discussion upon the motion of Mr. Jones followed.)
Mr. LOUD. Let me suggest that the witness be excused until 2
o'clock, and we can settle this matter among ourselves.
Mr. TAWNEY. I move that we take a recess until 2 o'clock.
Mr. JONES. Are you going to vote upon my motion after recess?
The CHAIRMAN. Y0ou have heard the motion of Mr. Jones that
Sixto Lopez come here and testify.
The motion referred to was here put to the committee and lost, and
the committee then took a recess until 2 o'clock p. m.
AFTER RECESS.
The CHAIRMAN. Please state whatt the Commission is doing over in
the Philippine Islands, and what effect the school system which they
have established is having.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The civil commission began its work on the 19th
of November. 1900. When I left Manila in April of this year, the
civil commission had enacted three hundred and forty-seven laws.
That is to say, one law every three days, which included the code of
civil procedure, composed of more than seven hundred articles, and
the municipal and provincial codes, each of which has more than three
hundred sections. My duty in the civil-service board is to read all
these laws in Spanish in order to ascertain whether there is any conflict with other laws, and in such case I would state to the government
of the Philippines that they do so conflict. In addition to this immense
intellectual work, which has cost the health of Judge Ide and has
even caused the illness of Commissioner Moses, and was the direct
cause of Governor Taft's illness-since that date, November, 1900 -the civil commission has gone through mnre than thirty-seven provinces of'the archipelago establishing the provincial governments. I
have a menmorandnll  of more than six hundred speeches made by     s
Governor Taft on that trip. The speeches referred to the policy and
to the pleasure of the Commission with regard to the hospitality of
the Filipinos. I have also memoranda showing that the executive sec-' -
retary, Mr. Ferguson, has made more than two thousand speeches as  ^
interpreter-six hundred for Mr. Taft and six hundred for the residents.
of the provinces.
The CHAIRMAN. I will ask you how these people are pleased with
the system of education?
Mr. TAWNEY. We have sent a good many school-teachers over there.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 understand that the gentleman wishes me to
reply to the question of the public schools?
The CHAIRMAN. That is right.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. We have now 7,500 public schools in the islands,
with 1,200 American teachers, the remainder being Filipinos. Two




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hundred thousand children attend these public schools, and 20,000
adults attend the night schoqls.
Now, not as formerly, the fathers of families do not send their
children to Manila, as they now have schopls of fuller education in
their own towns. After the alphabet is 'taVght, according to the
American method, the elements of arithmetic, history, and geography
are taught, all of which subjects were neO*r taught during the Spanish
times, because under the Spanish Government nothing but reading
and writing were taught if anything was taught at all. After that,
Christian doctrine by Father Astete. So that we feel great satisfaction,
because we can say that at least 2 per-cent of the present population
is studying according to American methods. Under the Spanish
Government the number of schools never exceeded 600. There were
never more than 30,000 children who attended the schools when they
did attend. Consequently the condition of public education is a very
satisfactory one.
From personal observation, there are two defects.
First. The number of American teachers is too small and should be
increased; they should number at least 6,000, as requested at the public discussion of the subject, because having 800 pacified municipalities,
to which will soon be added some other pacified provinces, we will
need a good many more teachers.
The second defect observed, and which I consider it my duty to submit to your consideration, is that the salaries paid to the American
teachers are too small. They should be doubled in order to obtain the
best teachers, because it is preferable to pay large salaries for a period
of five years rather than to pay small salaries for twenty years. 1
believe at the expiration of the term of five years, with well-paid
teachers, scholars will be able to become Philippine teachers, who can
be paid very small salaries. Consequently, for the purposes of the
progress of the people, and from an economical standpoint, it is cheaper
to pay high salaries now and take more teachers there than not to do
so, having a small number of teachers badly paid.
The necessity of our people is education, and consequently I deem
it my duty to submit to the consideration of the committee this necessity and the remedy which, in my opinion, might be applied.
With your permission I will make another observation on tjie subject. In view of the period of one year and five months, during which
the civil government, established by the civil commission, has been
working —that is to say, from November, 1900, to July 1, 1l1-the
civil commission in its legislative capacity and thereafter, after said
period from the 1st of July to the present, in its legislative and
executive character, the Commission has not had an opportunity to
extend its instruction in the higher branches, and the result is that the
only higher instruction in the Philippines is that given by the friars at
the following:
The University of St. Thomas, College of San Juan de Letran, the
Municipal Atheneum, the College of San Beda, the College of St.
Joseph. These are for males.
Then there is the College of Santa Isabel, the College of St. Catharine, the College of La Concordia, the College of Looban, the College
of Sam Palo4l, the College of the Society of Jesus.
The last seven named are institutions for women. Higher instruc



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tion is given in ftese colleges, as already stated. and in the University
of St. Thomas medicine, law, pharmacy, and chemistry are also
taught. Consequently the higher class of families in Manila, who are
those who can afford higher education for their children, who have
nothing to do with the friars,. make the sacrifice of sending their
children to America, but those who have not much money and are
friendly to the friars have sent their children to the friar colleges
referred to.
There is one important question in this connection. The hostility of
the friars to the American G-overnment is evident. There has been a
recent example of this. The cholera appeared on Palm Sunday. On
that day and the following days-that is, during holy week-it is the
custom in a Catholic town like Manila to attend the confessional, and
the friars took the occasion in the confessional to state that cholera
existed only in the imagination of the Americans. Their object in-,
doing this was to prevent the Filipinos from complying with the sanitary measures of the Government in regard to cholera in order that  -
cholera might extend, because by the cholera they make much money
on account of funerals, churches, candles, and confessionals, and finally
because in this manner they take the attention of the Philppine people,away from the reforms which the Americans are introducing.
1 wish to state, Mr. Chairman, that there should be added, in the
bill a precept in addition to the allowance which has been previously
requested that the department of public instruction establish immediately universities and colleges for higher education if we desire to
prevent the children of these higher classes from coming under the
prejudicial direction of the friars. That is all I have to say.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Jones, you may ask such questions as you wish.
Mr. JONES. Mr. Chairman, we did not want to nake any examination until after you gentlemen have finished asking your questions.
The CHAIRMAN. 1 am through.
Mr. JONES. Our desire is to proceed without being interrupted, and
therefore we prefer to wait until the majority of the committee is
through.                                                  0
Mr. CRUMPACKER. What percentage of the inhabitants of the Philippine Islands are uneducated?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Before answering that question I desire to state
what I understand by the word "education."
Mr. CRUMPACKER. Perhaps I had better substitute the word
"illiterate."
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About 85 per cent. That is only problematical,
because no census has ever been taken in the Philippines.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. I understood you to say that 85 per cent were
illiterate.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is right.
Mr. HITT. Eighty-five per cent of the people of the Philippines can
not read or write?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. What means of communication have the people
of the different provinces with each other?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It is evident that if they do not know Spanish
they have no communication, unless they belong to a specific tribe,
such as one Visayan with another Visayan, as one Tagalo with another
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Tagalo, but a Tagalo and a Visayan can not communicate with each
other, and it is necessary for them to know Spanish in order to communicate with each other.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. How manv different dialects are there, approxi->
mately? That is, how many different dialects and languages are there,
approximately, in the archipelago?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They have been reduced to eight.   There are
4,000,000 people who speak Visayan. I include the Moros of Mindanao, who have communication with the inhabitants of the following
provinces: Cebu, Panay, Bohol, Samar, Leyte, Romblon, Masbate,
and Ticao.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. In view of the lack of experience of the inhabitants of those islands, and the lack of common language, what, in your
opinion, is their capacity for independent self-government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With your permission to elaborate on the question of education, I can answer that question fully.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. Certainly.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In regard to the protection of life, the manner of
living within a town, the Philippine people are as educational as anv
other people. First, before becoming Christians, before the Spaniards came, they had their religious orders. We believe in God, who
we call " Bathala o Apo;" we beflieve in heav en. which we call " fanquit;'
we believe in a soul, which we call " calolua; we believe in sin, which
we call "casalanan; " we believe in virtue, which we call " cabanalan;"
we believe in a future life, which we call ' huling lbhay." In the social
order the Filipinos believe in the institution of the familx, which was
called " camaganacan;" wex believe in the institution of matrimony as the
basis of families, which wse call " asaua," and we do not believe inI concubinage, which we call "calunia." WVe also have our literature and we
have our writings. We believe in the institution of property, which
we call " pagaari," and "nakao." robbery. This is in the social order.
In the political order we were acquainted with community life, which
we call bavan, and we were acquainted with the principle of authority,
which we call puno. We were acquainted with the principles of justice, which we call catuiran. We believed in the idea of punishment,
which we call parusa, and we also believed in the obedience of authority, which we call pagsunud. Consequently, we were educated to
know how to protect our lives and our honor, which we call purl, and
our property and our families. That was the primiiitive or prehistoric
condition of the Filipinos before the arrival of the Spaniards.
When the Spaniards came they taught us Christianity, the inmmense
benefit of which I can not but acknowledge. This was an incomprehensible act in the fifteenth century, because only the Philippines in the
East were selected to be Christianized; and, as is natural, the Christiaps perfected us and our education with regard to the elementary
principles of social life. Spain at that time brought about the unity of
the Philippine people, who had been divided into a great many tribes,
and established one religion and established one common language,
which is the Spanish; one legislation, civil legislation as well as criminal legislation and criminal laws. Consequently, from this point of
view of the protection of our honor, life, and interests we are as highly
educated as any other people of the world.
Anv citizen of the most civilized country of the world could go to
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life, his property, and his interests. The proof of this is that British,
German, and French people have resided there for a great many years,
trading with the Filipinos. Thus, if we understand by the word
'education " what is understood by rational disposition with regard to
the protection of life, property, and interests, the Filipinos are well
educated. If we understand bv "education" culture, then we are
entirely uncultured, beginning with myself, and I request this committee to pardon all my lack of culture which may have been shown,
because it is not our fault-the Spaniards have not educated us for
this. That is what can be said in regard to education.
With regard to political education, we have absolutely none. We
have never been politicians, and if it did take place at so{me time it has
been with arms in hand. We have employed our politics in war for
destrluction and for all that means ruin, and that is the reason for the
reaction of many intelligent Filipinos in this connection, and they have
all agreed, with the exception of a dozen or so irreconcilables, such as
Lopez and others, that what is necessary is American instruction in
order that we might know and exercise political rights. So, from a
political standpoint, we have no education at all.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. In your opinion, the people of the archipelago
are not at this time capable of maintaining an independent self-government and carrying all the responsibilities, domestic and foreign, that
that implies?'
Mr. 1BUENCAMINO. 1 can not answer that question, because no census
has been taken.
Mr. CRUMIPACKER. Are the people, in your opinion, capable of selfgovernment?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; they are not. Not.only they can not govern
themlselves, but it would not be advisable for them to endeavor to
do so.
Mr. TAWNEY. Please explain that.
IMr. BUENCAMINO. Self-government, accorfding to mIy sad experience,
not in theory, belongs only to people and nations who can inspire their
neighbors with respect and consideration, because internatiolal life has
become so closely united with national life that the distance between
Amierica and France, for examlple, tmay be conmpred to the distance
between that gentlemlan and myself. Electricity. and steam have cut
down all distances, and consequently all countries are neighbors. The
Philippines are now surrounded by the following countries:
On the Chinese Sea by China, Japan, England, and France, and if
Russia continues, it will be nearer the Philippines than America,
because there will only be a distance of twelve days between Port
Arthur and Manila. On the south there is Australia, which is a
rising nation. Then there are the Philippines themselves. We have
British subjects, French subjects, and German subjects, who represent
a capital of many millions of dollars. In the State Department here
there are claims from the British Government for indemnity for damages caused with regard to a railroad in Manila. There are also
claims of the German, Belgian, and Swiss Governments for damages
incurred in Iloilo with regard to the bombardment of that town by
the American squadron. If the American Government should now
abandon us and give us our own government, all these claims would
go to the Philippines, probably each one backed up by a squadron.
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under a system of independence, and he would have a conflict with any
of the hundreds of these natives, because he has no idea of what the
international responsibility would be. Then we would have an international conflict. Thus he would go on until we would extinguish
ourselves forever, and we would suffer the fate of Samoa or of China.
For all these reasons I have deduced the inadvisability of our being
independent.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. Suppose roads are constructed, public highways
and telegraphs and telephones and public schools are instituted and
maintained, and a civil government organized in the Philippines with
representatives from all the provinces, is it not true that within the
course of ageneration or two the inhabitants of those islands would have
experience and ability enough to operate an independent government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I desire to repeat what I have already said, that
we have never had an opportunity of being politicians.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. The first requirement is to bring the people into
a closer touch?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. And to establish a common language and a common literature?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. Those things must be accomplished before independence is thought of?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. I believe that is all.
Mr. OLMSTEI). I would like to ask hin what proportion of the
Filipinos are now in insurrection against the United States.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They will not exceed 100 persons after the surrender of Malvar. If Malvar had been captured, I would not dare to
say this. I am a poor man, and I have nothing but $100 in my pocket,
but I will wager it all to $1 on a cablegram to the Philippines to verify
r my statement. I consider it as my sacred duty not to pervert the
truth here. Should I not tell the truth I would not be acting against
' the Americans, but against my own people, and I have had a sad
experience. Only by speaking the truth can a country be saved.
Mr. HITT. Does that include Mindanao, when you say that there are
only 100 persons in insurrection?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; not Mindanao.
Mr. HITT. You speak only of Luzon?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Luzon and the Visayas.
Mr. JONES. Does that include Samar?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; Zamora has already surrendered. If
Zamora had been captured then I would not have said so. In Samar
the soul of the insurrection was not Lucban, but Zamora. I would
specially request that the distinction between a surrender and a capture
should he observed. General Malvar, with his obstinate resistance,
has reached a higher point than any other insurgent general. General
Chaffee, as counseled, very well advised, sent General Bell to Batangas,
who not only is a brave general, but a diplomat also. General Chaffee
did not have to make the war for glory's sake in the Philippines, and
what he desired was to close the war as rapidly as possible, for the
good of the Filipinos, and to comply with the orders of the American
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The CHAIRMAN. Does anyone else desire to ask any questions, gentlemen?
Mr. JONES. I want to ask the gentleman some questions. I understand the witness to say that preparations for the insurrection were
begun as far back as October, 1898. Is that so?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, no, no. Preparations, not for the insurrection, but for the war against America.
Mr. JONES. Against America.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. There could not be an insurrection at
that time because America was not the sovereign at that time.
Mr. JONES. The Malolos congress was in session at that time, I
believe.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; it met on the 25th of September, 1898.
Mr. JoNEs. 1 want to know whether those preparations were inaugurated or sanctioned by the colngress then in session?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No: not at all.
Mr..JONES. Well, who were they inaugurated by?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The prep arations were agreedMr. JONES. Thev seem to have been known to the witness, and I
want to know whom they were made by.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I know that because I was the private secretary
at this time of Aguinaldo and the director of justice of the army.
Mr. JONES. The private secretary of Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; of Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. The private secretary of Aguinaldo and the director of
justice for the army?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. And you know that those preparations were made by
Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Naturally; yes, sir; because we had received
telegrams from General Agoncillo saying that he had not been received
by President McKinley as a representative of the Philippine government.
Mr. JONES. Yes; I have heard that before.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. And that we were free then to make war against
America, because it was not sovereign with regard to the Philippines;
and the capitulation
Mr. JONES. State just what those preparations were.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. To organize the army; organize the militia within
Manila, the volunteer corps, in order that at a given moment we might
take between two fires the American forces which were on the outskirts of the city of Manila.
Mr. JONES. When was it that you took this deposition of which you
spoke, of the major who was in command of the Philippine forces?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In March.
Mr. JONES. What time in March?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The beginning of March, 1902, following the
February 4.
Mr. JONES. In March following the February 4?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. That deposition was in writing, I suppose?
Mr. BUENCAIINO. Yes, sir.
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. It has been lost with all my papers.
Mr. JONES. With all whose papers?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. All my own papers. When I was captured all I
saved was the clothing I had on my back, and it was in a very dilapidated condition.
Mr. JONES. Did these papers fall into the hands of your captors?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. When Aguinaldo, on the 5th of November,
ordered me to go with his family —Aguinaldo's family —he took these
papers away from me.
Mr. JONES. Aguinaldo took them from you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; took them from me.
Mr. JONES. You did not lose them, then?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I did not say that I lost them. I said that they
were lost.
Mr. JONES. I would like to know who was present when this deposition was taken-who besides yourself and the major?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Hervasio de Jesus, my clerk, was also present.
Mr. fJONES. Where was it taken?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In the convent of Malolos, on the 3d or 5th of
March.
Mr. JONES. And you say that this major testified that he had no
knowledge as to whether that first shot was fired by an American soldier or the Filipino forces?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He stated that he heard a shot when he was in
his office, and that he ran out to the place and found there the Americans in a hostile attitude, and gave the order to fire upon them, and
that was the beginning of the x-ar.
Mr. JONES. Did he state whether he had secured any information
from other sources as to who fired that first shot?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; there was no occasion to ask any more
questions, as the shooting began then and has continued ever since.
Mr. JONES. Is it not generally understood in Manila that that first
shot was fired by an American soldier?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; there exists no opinion on the subject in
Manila-that is to say, any founded opinion; there may be a prejudiced opinion.
Mr. JONES. I have not the testimony before me given to the Senate
committee by General Otis, but my decided opinion is that he stated
that the first shot was fired by an American soldier, and he gave the
reasons-that is, why it was firedc
The CHAIRMAN. I agree with you. My recollection is that a man
by the name of Grayson, one of the American soldiers, fired it.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is the reason I answered that I had no
opinion as to that. If General Otis said so, I suppose it was so.
Mr. JONES. Do you not know that an American. soldier from the
State of Nebraska has stated that he fired that shot, and that it is generally accepted by all intelligent people who know anything about the
subject that it was fired by an American soldier?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I think I have read that somewhere, and have
also heard it; but it can not be said that all intelligent persons would
believe that, because if that were the case there would be nobody but
military people in Manila. The Filipinos who were in Manila were
full of fear and could not form any opinion: they were scared to
death; and the intelligent Filipinos who were in the country were too
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Mr. JONES. Is it not generally accepted in Manila, and was it not so
accepted when you were there, that an American soldier killed a Filipino by that shot?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No such opinion exists. Thee are prejudiced
opinions. Each party says that the other began it. Each party has
its own opinion, and the Filipinos say that the Americans commenced
it and the Americans say that the Filipinos commlenced it.
1Mr. JONES. Did I understand that it is a controverted matter in
Manila as to who fired that shot, as to whether it was fired by an
American or a Filipino soldier?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I would state that for two years these questions
are not discussed at all in Manila. The question upon us now is,
whether to be American citizens or not?
Mr. JONES. You did sa%, however, did you know, that one faction in
Manila claimed that that shot was fired by an American soldier, and
another faction claimed that it was fired }b a Filipino soldier?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; I said that the major heard this shot, and that
then he ordered the first shooting, when he saw the Americans in a
hostile attitude.
Mr. JONES. I understand that: but you said a momene t ago that this
was a controverted question in Manila; that one party, or "b1and." as
you expressed it, or faction. held that the first shot was tired by an
American soldier. and the other party contended that it was fired by a
Filipino; is that so
1Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; blut that is not a question of information, but rather of prejudice, of passion; but as I say, these questions
have been a dead issue for two years in Manila. Nobody thinks any
more of that shot, except to cure the injury done by it.
Mr. JONES. If this question is a dead issue in Manila, and has not
been discussed for two vears in Manila, why did you state in your
opening remarks to the committee that you had taken this deposition
of this major on this subject and what he stated to be true about it?
Why did vou make that statement'
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because I was asked by the chairman as to how
hostilities broke out, and in answer to that I explained what had been
done. And I repeat that the question of that shot is no more discussed in Manila, but the way of remedying the evils which it has
caused.
Mr. JONES. And there is no opinion, then, one way or the other, in
Manila now as to the truth of the statement of this major upon this
subject?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have heard no opinion on the subject for two
years.
Mr. JONES. Where were you at this time?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In Malolos.
Mr. JONES. How far is that from Manila?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About 36 miles.
Mr. JONES. What was the general belief or understanding in Malolos
at that time as to who fired that shot?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That it was an attack made by the Americans;
that the Americans were going to enslave us; that the Americans were
going to deceive us; and that it was necessary-that we had better die
than surrender to the Americans. I must confess that that is what
everybody felt in Malolos at that time.
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in Malolos at that time, that this attack was made by the American
troops?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because the leaders were in Malolos at
that time, and had we had the intention of attacking the Americans at
that time we would not have permitted those leaders to be in Malolos.
Mr. JONES. I understood you to say in reply to a question by the
chairman that this attack on the part of the Filipinos against the
American soldiers was premature; you used that word. Now I understand you to say that your understanding at the time was that this
was an attack by the Americans upon the Filipinos. How do you
explain that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not say that the attack was a premature one.
I say that the hostilities were premature. It was not the day fixed for
the breaking out of the hostilities.
Mr. JONES. You do not say, then, that the attack on the part of the
Filipinos against the Americans was premature, but that just the
breaking out of the hostilities was premature?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because I say it was premature.  I
had taken no deposition of the major at that time.
Mr. JONES. I understood you to say that at the time General Luna
was killed General Aguinaldo was 75 miles away?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; yes.
Mr. JONES. Who were the slayers of General Luna?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I desire to be excused from answering this question, because I would be obliged to refer to Mr. Aguinaldo, and Mr.
Aguinaldo is at the present time an enemy of mine, politically speaking, and a prisoner, and my duty is not to say anything about him. It is
also my duty to answer, Mr. Congressman. but if you will permit me,
if you will excuse me from answering the question, I will appreciate
it very much.
Mr. JONES. I understood the witness to say that Aguinaldo had gone
to the place of residence of General Luna, in search of him, and thatThe CHAIRMAN. He did not say in search of him.
Mr. JONES. He did not use the word "'search," but looking for him.
He had gone-well, I will say in search of him.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With 4,000 men.
Mr. JONES. With 4,000 men, and that Aguinaldo had gone to the
place where General Luna resided with 4,000 men.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. And that in some mysterious way-he used that wordGeneral Luna had departed for Aguinaldo's headquarters.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes.
Mr. JONES. General Luna was in search of Aguinaldo, was he not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but without any forces.
Mr. JONES. Without any forces?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Except 50 mounted men, his natural escort.
Mr. JONES. Fifty mounted men?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. His usual escort.
Mr. JONES. And he was killed whilst Aguinaldo was at his place of
residence looking for him, accompanied by 4,000 men.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. I understood, too, that some differences had grown up
between Aguinaldo and Luna on account of the cruelties practiced by
General Luna.
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Mr. JONES. Were you the private secretary of Aguinaldo at the
time?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was then secretary of state.. I had nothing to
do with the army.
Mr. JONES. You were then secretary of state and had nothing to do
with the army. Was that prior to the time when Mabini was president?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 relieved Mabini, who fell on the 16th. I was
secretary of state after Mabini.
Mr. JONES. Was there much feeling on the part of the Filipino
people against General Luna on account of his cruelties?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; he had a good many admirers also,
especially among the young military men, because he was a very brave
man and a gentleman.
Mr. JONES. General Aguinaldo himself was dissatisfied with the
course of General Luna, and opposed to the atrocities and cruelties
which he practiced, was he not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but he also admired his valor and his
courage and his military qualities.
Mr. JONES. 1 understand you to say that Aguinaldo admired the
military qualities and courage of General Luna, and that the differences
between them grew out of the fact that Aguinaldo did not approve and
indorse his cruel course in the conduct of the war?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is one of the causes, and the other was the
ambition of General Luna to supplant Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. I also understand you to say that there was a feeling of
relief on the part of the Filipino people, although thev did not approve
of the killing of Luna, on account of his cruel conduct, and there was
a feeling of relief throughout the country at his death?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; that the Filipino people did not approve of
the means which had been employed for the killing of Luna. Luna
was found with 36 bolo wounds, and more than 40 bullet wounds.
Mr. JONES. But my question was, they did experience a feeling of
relief, although they did not approve of the manner of his taking off.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They breathed freely, because they considered
their lives in danger before his death.
Mr. JONES. There were Filipinos who believed their lives were in
danger as long as he lived?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. Yes.
Mr. JONES. In answer to one of the questions which were addressed
to you, or it may have been that you made the statement voluntarily,
you said there were some 8,000 municipal employees-Filipinos-and
that that fact, in your judgment, demonstrlated the full capacity of the
Filipino people for self-government?
Mr. LOUD. The full capacity was demonstrated by the fact that
there were only 10 under suspension.
Mr. BUENCAIINO. I did not make that statement. There are 800
municipalities at the elections for which all voters attended and
appointed presidents and councilors regularly, and those people who
were in those elections are also paying their taxes, and these facts are
evidences of the capacity of the Filipinos for local self-government.
Mr. JONES. You did not use that word before; you did not say
"local self-government." You said "full capacity for self-government." 1 think the stenographer's notes will show that you used the
words "full capacity for self-government."
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repeat it, "local self-government," now, fearing that it may have
been a mistake.
Mr. JONES. I remember distinctly that you spoke of the municipalities, but it was not the question that I directed mine to. If I am
not mistaken, you said that there were some 8,000 municipal employees,
only ft of whom had been suspended for malfeasance in office.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; I said that.
Mr. JONES. And it was in that connection that you said " this demonstrates their full capacity for self-government.'"
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I say "local self-government."
Mr. JONEs. You now make it " local self-government."
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I claim that I said that in the beginning.
Mr. JONES. 1 also understood you to say that you were not in the
full confidence of Governor Taft, and that that was because of the fact
that you had been a rabid insurrectionist.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; on account of my radical ideas.
The following is an example: The Bishop of Manila was going to
give an order for the distribution of the parishes to the friars, and
people came to me and I said. "No objection must be made; no arms
must be taken up; no revolution shall be started against the friars,
because the American Government guarantees to us the liberty of
worship; consequently, if you do not want anyt more friars, and the
Pope and the bishops, the leaders of the friars, force these friars on
us, then having liberty of worship, we can change our religion as we
see fit, and in this manner enjoy peace and tranquillity which we need
so much." And other Filipinos stated to Governor Taft that Mr.
Buencamino would cause a religious revolution; and consequently Mr.
Taft reproached ime. There are other details of the same character
which make me differ from Governor Taft. And I understand that I
am working as an advocate of my people, and Governor Taft is acting
as an American authority who has to contemplate and think of many
interests which are protected by the treaty of Paris.
Mr. JONES. Well, is it not a fact that you are a menmber of the civil
government, the American civil government of Manila?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Are you not one of the three civil-service commissioners,
drawing a salary of $3,500 a year as such?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Were you not appointed by Governor Taft?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; that is to say, I was appointed by the
n-military governor, MacArthur.
Mr. JONES. You are now a part of the civil government of which
Governor Taft is the head, are you not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Now, when did Governor Taft go to the Philippine
Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. July, 1900.
Mr. JONES. And you were appointed a civil-service commissioner
the 1st of July, 1901, were you not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On the last day of General MacArthur's command.
Mr. JONES. That was the 1st of July, 1901?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. You are a part, then, of the civil government of which
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about twelve months, and yet you were appointed by military authority,
and not bv Governor Taft?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The 31st of May, 1901, I was appointed by Gen- '.-'
eral MacArthur, who the following day ceased in his command.
Mr. JONES. I hold in my hand the official register of the officers and
employees in the civil service of the Philippine Islands, issued by the
Division of Insular Affairs of the War Department, and I find in that
register that Felipe Buencamino, a member of the Philippine civilservice board, of Pampanga, of the Philippine Islands, was appointed
July 1, 1901, at $3,500 annual salary.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; the appointment took effect the 1st of
July, 1901, but the person who gave me my appointment was General
MacArthur.
Mr. JONES. Who appointed William F. Washburn, who is also a
mermlber?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Governor Taft.
Mr. JONES. Governor Taft?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Who appointed Mr. Pepperman, who is also a member
of that board
Mr. BUENCAMINO. (overnor Taft-on the recommendation of Governor Taft.
Mr. JONES. Now, Mr. WashIburn holds an appointmlent, according
to tlhis register, of the same day, July 1. 1901, and you say that Mr.
'Washburn was appointed by the civil governor and you by the military commander. How is that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I say that it is for the simple reason that when I
was given my appointment, to take effect on the 1st of July, on the
31st of May, it was the last day of the military government, and Dr.
Washburn was not appointed on the 1st of July, but some time in the
month of September.
Mr. JONES. Well, your appointment by General MacArthur on the
last dav of his authority-was that appointment by him in view of the
fact that you did not have the full confidence of Governor Taft, and
for the purpose of forestalling Governor Taft?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No. I have not stated that. I am incapable of
reasoning in that way.
Mr. JONES. You did state that there were certain differences between
Governor Taft and yourself; you did say that you were acting as the
attorney for your people and he was acting as the representative of
this Government. did vou not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO.. Yes, sir. What I remember having said is the
following: When asked what were the sentiments, what are the feelings of the Filipino people with regard to Governor Taft, Mr. Chairman, I answered that Governor Taft is now the idol of the Philippine
people, and it is my duty to tell the truth here. I said that I am not
in the confidence of Governor Taft in order to support my statement.
I say this for the purpose of showing that I do not say so as under any
obligations to him for having given me mn position, but it is simply
justice to say it.
Mr. JONES. Now, I understand that Governor Taft is the idol of the
Philippine people, one of the three people whom the Philippine people
have idolized; I understand that, and that you do not enjoy the full
confidence of Governor Taft. Do you enjoy the full confidence of the
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not state positively whether I have or have
not the absolute confidence of the Philippine people. All I can say
t /   are facts, and that twenty governors of provinces, all the heads of the
Katipunan Society, as I have proved-I have just received a letter
from the presidente of the Federal party, which I will be glad to read
if the committee would like
The CHAIRMAN. You did not finish your sentence. You said twenty
governors and somebody else, but vou did not state what they did.
What did they do?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have their confidence. If this all signifies the
confidence of the people, that is the fact.
Mr. JONES. I suppose that Governor Taft has the confidence of the
/ people, if they idolize him; is that right?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes.
Mr. JONES. You know, then, that Governor Taft has the confidence
of the Philippine people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sirMr   E. JONES. Notwithstanding the fact that he represents the United
States Government, and you are acting as the attorney, to use your own
words, of the Philippine people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JTONES. How is it, then, that when there are differences between
Governor Taft and yourself, which prevent your enjoying the full
confidence of Governor Taft
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I would state that I have not said that I have not
confidence in Governor Taft.
Mr. JONES. Not that you have not confidence in Governor Taft, but
you said that you did not enjoy the confidence of Governor Taft.
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. That is so. I do not believe that I am fully in
Governor Taft's confidence.
Mr. JONES. And the reason for that is that you are the attorney for
the Philippine people, and Governor Taft is representing American
interests. Now, I want to know, if that be so, and Governor Taft
still has the utmost confidence of the Philippine people, if you, their
special attorney, have also their utmost confidence?
The CHAIRMAN. If I were the lawyer on the other side, I would
object to that, because I think you have inserted something in that
question that the witness did not say. I do not think the witness said
that he (the witness) did not have the confidence of Governor Taft
because he was the attorney for the Philippine people.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is one of the reasons. I stated what I had
thought about the relations of the friars, and what ought to be done,
and that Governor Taft and I differed about that.
Mr. JONES. Yes; and that you naturally took a different view from
Governor Taft, he being the representative of the American people,
and you being the attorney for the Filipino people.
Mr. OLMSTED. He has stated that he differed with Governor Taft
in the matter of the friars, and that generally he is the attorney for the
Philippine people, but that therefore he has not the confidence of the
people is a misstatement of his testimony. I do not understand that
he said that Governor Taft did not have confidence in him, but that he
was not in his confidence; that is a very different thing.
Mr. BuENCAMINO. I am not in the confidence of Governor Taft;




that is, I suppose that that is the case. I do not know that to be the
fact, but I suppose that to be the fact-that 1 am not in the full confidence of Governor Taft-on account of my radical ideas, as in the
example I have already cited.
Mr. JONES. Then I will accept that amended statement there. Are
there not a great many persons, Filipinos like yourself, who are at
the head of affairs of the insurrection and  ienml)ers of the insurrectionary government, or provisional government, who have been
appointed to responsible offices by Governor Taft?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There are a large number.
Mr. JONES. Has it not been the policy of Governor Taft to appoint
those persons?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. And still you say, as one of those, that you have not
his confidence?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I did not say that 1 was one of those appointed
by Governor Taft. I said that I was not one of those.
Mr. JONES. I will not say "appointed by Governor Taft," but one
of those holding office under him. I will put it that way.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. Notwithstanding that I do not believe
that I am in the full confidence of Governor Taft on account of my
revolutionary conditions; not on account of having been a prominent
insurgent, but on account ofMr. JONES. Revolutionary ideas entertained by you at this time?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. "Radical ideas" would express it better than
revolutionary conditions, as the example that I just cited about the
difficulty as to the friars shows, and relating to the freedom of worship.
Mr. JONES. D) you favor the confiscation of the friars' lands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With your permission, I would say that I do not
admit that term "confiscation."
Mr. JONES.. You can use any other.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because the friars have no property except their
personal property, in accordance with the canons and civil law of
Spain.
Mr. JONES. You do not recognize that the friars have any valid
title to those four hundred and odd thousand acres of land which they
claim?
IMr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; the title is not vested in the friars, but in
the church.
Mr. JONES. You do not recognize any title in the friars?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. As friars they have no title. As representatives
of the church, yes..Mr. JONES. Did not the constitution of Malolos-provisional government-did not that congress provide for the confiscation of those
lands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; no, sir. You can not call it confiscation. To
redeem those lands was the purpose; taking them away from the friars
and turning them over to the Philippine curates. And if you like, I
will explain the idea and my opinion on this subject.
Mr. JoNEs, I do not care anything particular about that, unless
somebody wants to know. I want to ask you about this matter that we
have under consideration here, the civil government bill. I want to
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indorsed this bill, that he had read most of the hill and thoroughly
indorsed it; that he thought there ought to be one or two things added
to it, but so far as it went he thoroughly indorsed it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do; but there are some more things besides
what I spoke of this morning that I would like to see added to it.
Mr. JONES. You especially approve that the lower house should be
elected by the Filipino people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
AMr. JONES. Do you approve of the upper branch of that congress
being composed of the Taft Commission?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; temporarily.
Mr. JONES. Temporarily?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; temporarily.
Mr. JONES. Do you mean by that that ultimately both branches
ought to be elected by the people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. After this provisional law, after this provisional
arrangement, after a census has been taken, and both Americans and
Filipinos have put a social and economic stamp on it, then I would
request that the Filipinos be declared American citizens; I would
demand annexation.
Mr. JONES. Then yo u regard this as a provisional measure, and not
as a permanent government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; because, as I said before, it is not time now
for the Filipinos to think of independence. They are like a sick man,
full of wounds, and what he needs is to convalesce. When this sick
people becomes healthy and is better advised of American methods,
which will be within three or four years, then the future policy of the
Philippines can be decided.
Mr. JONES. You think, then, that in three or four years. under
American tutelage, with peace and order prevailing in the islands, that
the Philippine people would be able to stand alone?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; I do not. They will be capable then of thinking of doing so, of considering whether to remain alone, or to demand
annexation. They will be capable'at that time of determining whether
they desire to be annexed to the United States or to have their independence. That is imy opinion.
Mr. JONES. Now. in the event that they should determine, after this
provisional period of which you speak, of three or four years, that
they desire annexation, in what way would they have annexation to
the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In the same way as the States, the other States,
have been annexed to the United States; in some cases as States, and
in other cases not as States, until later.
Mr. JONES. As Territories, with the ultimate idea of becoming
States of the Union?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Is not that the policy of the Federal party, of which
you are a member?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Is your party opposed to the United States holding the
Philippine Islands as a colony and governing it as a colony?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; the Federal party are opposed to it.
Mr. JONES. Are not all Filipinos united in their opposition to such
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; because there is some party that is quite
respectable and which demands an autonomous form of government
like that of Canada and Australia.
Mr. JONES. There are respectable people
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I mean by respectable, the high class of people,
or influential. There are some.
Mr. JTONES. There are some? What proportion of the inhabitants
of the islands, do you think-what per cent do you think would favor
such a government as that-a colonial government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About 15 per cent desire a colonial government.
Mr. JONEs. About 15 per cent?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About 15 per cent, sir, the colonial government.
Mr. JONES. What per cent of the Philippine people-I mean the
civilized people-are members of your party?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With the exception of about one hundred persons, they all belong to the Federal party.
Mr. JONES. With the exception —
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Speaking of intellectual people.
Mr. JON ES. Only about one hundred of the intellectual part of the
civilized and Christianized population of the Philippine Archipelago
are outside of your political organization?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I could give you the names of the persons if you
desire it.
Mr. JONES. And you think you could name every one of those outside of the ranks of your partyv'
Mr. BUENCAIINO. A nmost all. If you wish, I will be glad to give
you a list of them.
Mr. JONES. I do not care about the list. I have seen it stated by
quite a number of people in magazine articles. and by Filipinos of
intelligence, that 70 per cent of the civilized people of the Philippine
Islands could read and write, and I have seen it stated by one writer
that as many as 90 per cent could read and write. You place it at
about 15 per cent?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is my opinion and belief from what I know,
but it is not a founded or formal opinion, because we have never had
a true census. The Spanish census of 1887 indicates a population of
5.00,)000 inhabitants for the Philippines, and the census of 1898 had
still the same population. With regard to the percentage of educated
people, or anything else, there is nothing but unfounded opinion.
There is no exact estimate made. So that, notwithstanding I have
said that there are only 15 per cent of illiterates, another writer can say
as he pleases-that there are 70 per cent, for instance-without my daring to say that he misstates the fact. The only thing 1 can say is that
he has no means of proving his statements.
Mr. JONES. When you speak of reading and writing, do you mean
people who can read and write any dialect, or in what vernacularMr. BUENCAMINO. I refer to any language.
The CHAIRMAN. Let me suggest right there that that does exactly
corroborate what Governor Taft says on page 27 of his testimony.
Mr. JONES. I do not remember what he said on that subject. Now,
you said that the salaries of the teachers out there ought to be doubled?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Do you know what salaries are being paid to American
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Mr. BUENCAMIINO. I can not state exactly just now, but I believe
$75.
Mr. JONES. I have the list here, and I want to read the salaries to
you and ask your opinion. I observe, in looking over this list published by the Division of Insular Affairs of the IW ar Department, that
the first of the teachers, a man named Eaton, gets $2,000, that several
get $1,680 a year, a large number get $1,600 a year, quite a number
$1,380 a year; there are quite a number of pages of the names of those
who draw $1,200 a year, a large number of them drawing as much as
$1,180 a year, and a large number drawing $1,000 a year. Now, do
you think, after my having stated what those teachers are being paid,
their salaries ought to be doubled?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Those who receive $1,000 should receive double.
Mr. JONES. They should receive double:Mr. BUENCAMINO. And others in proportion, so that the lowest
salary should be $2,000.
Mr. JONES. You think the lowest salary should be $2,000?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. How many months in a year do they teach?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Every day, with the exception of the vacations
and the holidays. There are three months of vacation during the hot
season-April, May, and June.
Mr. JONES. What proportion of these American teachers can read
and write the Spanish language?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Those of them who have been soldiers write and
read Spanish. Of those who are recently arrived there are also many,
but the larger portion do not.
Mr. JONES. What proportion of those 200,000 children who are in
the public schools are writing and reading the Spanish language?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The greater portion can not speak Spanish.
Mr. JONES. You live in Manila, do you not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir: and 1 ant familiar with many provinces.
The CHAIRMAN. I understood you to say to the witness that there
are teachers there at $2,500.
Mr. JONES. No, sir; I did not. I said there was one there at $2,000,
the first one, and then 1 read the list. There are inspectors there, and
persons of that sort, I think, who get more than that, but I commenced at the teachers.
Mr. OLMSTED. That is in Mexican money, is it not?
There is one at $2,000, but there are a great many below that.
The CHAIRMAN. The Commission say here that the superintendent
was authorized to obtain from the United States 1,000 trained teachers
at not less than $75 and not more than $125 a month, the exact salary
to be fixed by the general superintendent, so that the limit was $125
maximum.
Mr. OLMSTED. Is that Mexican money?
Mr. JONES. No; that is American money; that is gold.
Mr. WILLIAMS of Illinois. It might affect the judgment of the witness a little, if he wants them to be doubled.
Mr. JONES. 1 saw it stated in an article in the North American
Review, which I read a short time ago, written by a distinguished
American who visited Manila and other parts of the islands, that when
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the authorities refused to permit eight of them to land, and had them
sent back to San Francisco, because of immoralities practised on the
trip out there. Do you know anything of that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No.
Mr. JONES. You never heard of that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. JONES. You can not say whether it is true or not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 do not know.
Mr. JONES. You are familiar with the Malolos government, 1 believe?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Were there any Filipino representatives in that government other than Tagalos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Were the Visayan Islands represented in that body?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes. sir.
Mr. JONES. All of the islands represented?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No.
Mr. JONES. I mean all of the Visayan Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No.
Mr. JONES. Which ones, if vou can remember, of the Visayan
Islands were represented in that body?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. All the provinces had their representatives, Luzon
and the Visayan Islands, but in some of the provinces, the representatives of some of the provinces were elected by suffrage, but others
appointed by Aguinaldo. The way I understood your question was
whether the Visayan provinces were represented by election or not.
Mr. JONES. I did not limit it to that, but I would like to have you
explain that, how they were represented?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They were all represented, but none by election.
Mr. ONES. None of the Visayan Islands were represented by
election?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because they had no communication until the
month of December, 1898.
Mr. JONES. Did all the members of that congress speak the Spanish language?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. They all spoke the Spanish language?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. How long does it take a Visavan to acquire the Tagalog?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About six months. The Tagalo can learn Visayan
and the Visayan can learn Tagalog in about the same period, about
six months, as well as any of the other dialects, Pampangan, and so
forth.
Mr. JONES. Do you think, then, that if the Government of the
United States should establish such a government for the Philippines
as provided for in this bill, which you have read, that after an experience under that government for, say, three or four years, the representatives from the Visayan Islands and Luzon would be able to acquire
each other's language and be able to communicate in that way
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; I do not believe it.
Mr. JONES. Not in three or four years?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In English; yes, sir. In three or four years.
Mr. JONES. How is that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They can communicate in English. I think that
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in three or four years they would be able to communicate in Englishthe majority of them.
Mr. JONES. Well, would a representative government of that sort,
lasting three or four years, in your opinion, inculcate a national spirit,
such a national spirit as they have not now?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The national spirit exists at the present time.
That was the reason for the revolution.
Mr. JONES. Then, in your opinion there is such a thing as a national
spirit in the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. And you do not believe that there are more than 100 people in the Visayan islands and Luzon to-day engaged in insurrection
against the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. JONES.' Is there, then, in view of that fact, any necessity for
retaining any considerable number of United States troops in the
islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; there is a necessity on account of the
non-Christians, on account of the Moros.
Mr. IONES. My question was directed to the civilized and Christianized islands.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I still believe that the necessity for the troops is
evident vet, and that after Congress has made provisions and this
chamber of Filipinos has been elected and order has been perfectly
assured then the troops can be withdrawn little by little. To withdraw the troops at once does not appear prudent to me, although I
have no serious reasons, because Mal var has surrendered and was not
captured.
Mr. JONES. Will it ever be safe to withdraw our troops from the
non-Christian islands, so long, I mean, as we exercise rights of sovereignty over those islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. From Mindanao they should never be withdrawn,
as I consider the Moros not capable of civilization. They do not recognize the principle of family, like the Christians. They are Mohammedans, and therefore permit polygamy.
Mr. JONES. How as to the Jolo Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They are like Mindanao, Moro Islands.
Mr. JONES. The Sulu Islands, the Sulu Archipelago?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I refer to that, also. The same applies to the
provinces of Samar, Bohol, and Levte.
Mr. JONES. And the Visayan Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The last named belong to the Visayan group.
Mr. JONES. And we will always have to have troops there?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Not always, temporarily, though, until the action
of the teachers has shown results-that is, the action of the American
teachers-because these people are very ignorant, to such an extent
that there is no attorney, no physician, no literary man from Samar
or Bohol, while in the province of Panay, which is situated near these
provinces, there are more than 50 attorneys, physicians, pharmacists,
and other scientific men.
Mr. PATTERSON. Who, if anyone, is paying your expenses over
here?
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. My party —the Federal party.
Mr. PATTERSON. Whom did you consult in Manila before you left?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With my party.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you get leave of absence from the Commission
before you left?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Does your salary go on?
Mr. BUENCAMIN.O. No, sir; I am only entitled to thirty days' leave
with pay, according to the law of the Philippine Commission. I have
four months' leave.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you get the consent of the Commission to
leave?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The civil governor is the one who gives the permission. He gave me four months' leave.
Mr. PATTERSON. When did you come to Washington?
Mr. BUENCAMEINO. The 28th of May.
Mr. PATTERSON. Whom have you consulted with since you have
been here-what officials I
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I presented myself to myv chief, the Secretary of
WXar, and afterwards I nave paid my respects to the President, and I
have gone nowhere else except Mount Vernon.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you come here for the purpose of testifying?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I came here with that special charge
from the Federal party to lay these matters before Congress.
Mr. PATTERSON. What imatters did you want to lay before Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The question of annexation, and then the question
of amnesty; that is to say, all the petitions of the Federal party.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you mean to say that you came here for the
purpose of urging the annexation of the Philippine Islands upon the
part of the Federal party?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; that was the intention, because we had
understood that there was to be a definite law and not a temporary one
passed.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you understand now that this bill does not make
the Philippine Islands part of the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. And are you still in favor of the bill?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; I am not in favor of the law at all. I wish
to be an American citizen at once.
Mr. PATTERSON. The bill here, then, you do not approve of?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I would like to be given the power to approve or
disapprove of it before that question would be asked. Then the question would be a just one.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you mean that you would like the question to
be submitted to the Philippine people for their consideration?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have no opinion to express in this regard at all.
Mr. PATTERSON. Please express an opinion, as the attorney of the
Federal party, as to a bill which makes a colony of the Philippine
Islands and annexes them as a part of the United States. a
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If that law is a definite law, I do not approve
of it.
The CHAIRMAN. You mean by definite, permanent?
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much better, because at the present time no American knows, or even
the Filipinos themselves, the condition of the islands.
Mr. PATTERSON. How do you know what the Americans know on
the subject?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No census has been taken, and the Americans. no
matter how wise they are, can know no more than any other man, as
they have no divine sight; but if they have this divine sight, I would
defer to that.
Mr. PATTERSON. Is the universal idea of the Federal party for ultimate annexation?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
IMr. PATTERSON. When were you captured?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In November. 1899.
Mr. PATTERSON. At that time were you and Aguinaldo friends?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. When did you become enemies?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was never his personal enemy, but political.
Mr. PATTERSON. When did you get to be political enemies?
IMr. IBUENCAMINO. Since May 28, 1900.
Mr. PATTERSON. That was how long after you were captured?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Six months.
Mr. PATTERSON. What were you doing in May, 1900-where were
you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was a prisoner.
Mr. PATTERSON. Where?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The only secretary of Aguinaldo who was in
prison five months.
Mr. PATTERSON. Where?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 was imprisoned in Manila by General Otis.
Mr. PATTERSON. Why was it that you became Aguinaldo's political
enemy?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because while I was in prison I had the opportunity to consider the municipal code enacted by General Lawton
before his death. In this municipal code I observed the principle of
local self-government; and I also saw the marriage law declared by
General Otis, in which law I observed the principle of freedom of
worship. Then the law of criminal procedure prepared by General
Otis, in which I saw the principle of the habeas corpus embodied; and
then I read the Constitution of the United States. All this, together
with the good treatment, although strictly incommunicado, which I
received at the hands of the American authorities, and I having
revolted against the Spaniards for the purpose of securing these three
principles of liberty-that is to say, personal liberty procured by the
abeas corpus, liberty of conscience assured by the marriage law, and
the local self-government, which is what the Filipinos now need-and
having seen this enacted by the military during the time of war and
combat, when we were killing Americans without compassion of any
kind, then my eyes were opened and I understood that the war was
useless, and by pacification and recognition of American sovereignty
we would get many more advantages than we would have had under
the Filipino government. After three months considering these matters, and when I got more exact data of the principles of government
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changed my views and wrote to General Otis telling him that I was
thenMr. PATTERSON (addressing the interpreter). Tell him not to go too
far with his answers, but simply answer my questions.
The CHAIRMAN. Let him proceed; he is answering the question; he
said he wrote to General Otis.
Mr. PATTERSON. Go on.
Mr. BUENcAMIro. And then upon being released, as General Otis
was relieved by General MlacArthur, then I requested General MacArthur for permission to make peace, which was granted.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you write to General Otis, and how long after
you experienced this change of sentiment before you were released
from prison?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. One month and a half.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you ask to be released from prison when you
wrote General Otis the letter?.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. How long after you were released from prison
before you were appointed on this civil-service board?
1Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was released on the 15th of April, 1'900, and
was appointed July 1, 1901: one year and two months.
Mr. PATTERSON. When were you promised the appointment?
Mr. BUENCAM3INO. It was not solicited, and I had not been promised it.
Mr. PATTERSON. General MacArthur appointed you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. When did he appoint vou?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. rhe 31st of May, 1901.
Mr. PATTERSON. How lonog before that tinle did you know you were
to be appointed!
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I repeat that I never solicited an appointment nor
had I been promised any appointment.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you not represent Aguinaldo as his confidential friend and adviser and private secretary?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Were you not acquainted with Aguinaldo's secret
and intentions?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Before writing to General Otis I had written to
General Aguinaldo.
Mr. PATTERSON. I am rot asking whether you wrote to him, but
whether or not you were in possession of Aguinaldo's secrets.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. They are not Aguinaldo's secretssecrets of the Philippine government.
Mr. PATTERSON. Were you in possession of the secrets of the Philippine government, and did you not betray those secrets to the American
officers?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. And was it not for that betrayal that you were
given this position?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Do you mean to imply that the Americans would
only give appointment to those who would betray
Mr. PATTERSON. I am not asking that. I am asking whether you
were given the appointment because you betrayed the secrets and
experienced a change of heart?
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Mr. PATTERSON. Where did you live after you got out of prison?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. At the house of my father-in-law, in Manila.
Mr. PATTERSON. What employment did you have before you were
employed on the Commission?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. Interpreter for General MacArthur in the department of war.
Mr. PATTERSON. And as interpreter for General MacArthur did you
not betray the insurrectos with whom you formerly associated?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; because I hcad written to them before my
appointment.
Mr. PATTERSON. When did you go into the employment of General
MacArthur as his interpreter?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In the month of October, 1900, as interpreter of
Tagalo into Spanish.
Mr. PATTERSON. How much were you paid as interpreter to General MacArthur?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Seventy-five dollars; what I paid one of my clerks
when I was an attorney.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you remain as in terpreter to General MacArthur until you were appointed on the board
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes. sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did vou have any employment before you were
employed by General MacArthur in the government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. NO, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Were you captured or did you give yourself up?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; I was captured.
Mr. PATTERSON. Whom with and where?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With Aguinaldo's mother and child in Cabaruan,
in the province of Pangasinan; but I was not captured by the American
Army. I was captured by those who were called the guards of honor,
who were natives of Pangasinan, which was an organization against
the revolution. They captured me and turned me over to the American
commander.
Mr. PATTERSON. If Aguinaldo had succeeded, what would have
become of you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Simply I would have been shot just as my brother
was.
Mr. PATTERSON. Your brother was shot as a traitor, was he not; or,
rather, the charge was made against him?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; he was assassinated.
Mr. PATTERSON. That was because he gave away the secrets of the
insurrection, was it not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Not at all: he never had been an insurgent.
Mr. PATTERSON. Why was he assassinated?
Mr. BUENCA1INO. Because orders had been given that anybody
advocating peace should be shot.
Mr. PATTERSON. When was he shot?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was assassinated in October, 1901.
Mr. PATTERSON. Where was he shot?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was assassinated in the province of Balacan,
in the barrio of Bolivar, with eight Americans who were prisoners and
who were also assassinated.
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was just going along with them.
Mr. PATTERSON. For what purpose?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was on his way to his own town.
Mr. PATTERSON. He was an insurrectoo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; mv brother was not an insurrecto.
Mr. PATTERSON. How many Filipinos were killed by the American
troops?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not say.
Mr. PATTERSON. Give an estimate.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There may be a large number.
Mr. PATTERSON. Give an estimate.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not, for the simple reason that they were
divided into guerilla bands, and consequently it is impossible.
Mr. PATTERSON. How many, in your judgment, have been killed?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not tell; I do not know; I have not the
remotest idea on the subject.
Mr. PATTERSON. Have as many as 100,000 been killed? I have seen
it stated that high.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; I do not think so.
Mr. PATTERSON. When you joined the Federal party were any representations made to you that the Philippine Islands would be annexed
as part of the United States'
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; I founded the Federal party myself,
because it was my idea that annexation is the natural sequence of the
provisions of the treaty of Paris.
Mr. PATTERSON. Haid the Filipinos and the Americans formed an
alliance before the city of Manila fell?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. They had not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sil:.
Mr. PATTERSON. At any time had they formed an alliance against
the Spanish?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; because Aguinaldo is the only one who
had anything to do with Admiral Dewey, and the Filipinos and th.e
Americans have never had long relations with each other.
Mr. PATTERSON. Were the Filipinos armed by the Americans?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Before the city of Manila fell?
Mr. BUENCAMINO: No; afterwards.
Mr. PATTERSON. How many rifles were given them?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. After tlhe fall of the city of Cavite they received
arnls.
Mr. PATTERSON. How many arms?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. About 190, not formally delivered to them, but
the,Spaniards in leaving the city of Cavite, the city was entered by the
Filipinos, and Admiral Dewey sent word that he was not going to
fight the Filipinos. Then they found the arms there abandoned by
the Spaniards and took them. After that they received nothing.
Mr. PATTERSON. Did Admiral Dewey or anyone else ever furnish
arms to the Filipinos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir. The person who smuggled arms to the
Filipinos was an American.
Mr. PATTERSON. How many arms were smuggled?




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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nineteen hundred arms.
Mr. PATTERSON. Could the city of Manila have been captured by the
Filipinos without the aid of the Americans?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It would have been impossible. Aguinaldo would
not have been able to have continued the Filipino people in revolt if
he had not stated that the United States had promised to recognize the
independence of the Philippines.
Mr. PATTERSON. Were the Filipinos struggling for their independence against Spain?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. At the beginning, no; but when Aguinaldo said
that Admiral Dewey had promised him independence, then they fought
for independence, and they would have accepted independence.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do the Filipinos desire free trade with this country?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The sugar and tobacco producers desire free
trade.
Mr. PATTERSON. Does the great mass of the people desire it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; because the mass of the people has seen that
the Government gives the money to the Filipinos, and the money is
necessary there because there are many ruins to repair. The people
accept the Dingley law, but if the tariff could be reduced 50 per cent
it would be better.
Mr. PATTERSON. You say if the tariff could be reduced 50 per cent
it would be better?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Are you satisfied with the 25 per cent reduction in
the tariff bill?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I will be satisfied with 50 per cent.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you understand from this bill that it will be
impossible for the Filipinos to pass any law to govern themselves?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is natural, because there could not be two
governments in the same country.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do the Filipinos desire to govern themselves,
locally?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do they desire to say whether or not there shall be
a tariff to this country?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; what they wish is that the Constitution should
follow the flag.
Mr. PATTERSON. That is what we want. What do you understand
by "the Constitution following the flag?",.~"  Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have no specific ideas on that subject. I only
"know that there is a fact: that is, the treaty of Paris.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you want the laws of this country to obtain and
be in effect in the Philippine Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Before the laws of the United States should be
applied there, 1 desire the education of our people.
Mr. PATTERSON. And before that time you are satisfied with any law
that is passed by Congress or the Commission?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Provided that it tends to the education of my
people and brings progress in commerce, agriculture, and industries,
which I call "the curing of the country's wounds."
Mr. PATTERSON. Do the Filipino people as a people desire liberty?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They desire liberty moderated by justice.
Mr. PATTERSON. What do you mean by "liberty moderated by
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. That liberty should not be granted to a man who
does not know how to use it. We have had examples in the French
revolution of absolute liberty. We have seen in the United States
Constitution that the word " liberty" is not used, but the phrase used
is "all the blessings of liberty."
Mr. PATTERSON. What do you mean bv "liberty?"
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The right of protection to life, honor, and property, to the public welfare, the protection of the general welfare.
Those are the blessings of liberty.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do the Filipinos desire those blessings?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Most assuredly.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do they want to say themselves how these blessings are to be brought about, and to make their own laws, and have
their own people in office?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; they do.
Mr. PATTERSON. Will you please state whether or not the Filipinos
would approve of a scheme by which at the end of a time, say, eight
years, that the Americans should occupy those islands and teach the
people, and give them the right at the end of that time to establish a
stable form of government, and give them the Constitution of the
United States, and give them their independence?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If the United States Congress should so dispose,
what remedy would we have but to accept? But they would be responsible for the future if the other great nations would devour them, and
in such case they would then still have the right to damn Congress.
If the other nations should subdivide the country, in the case of their
absolute independence, that would be the only renedy left theni, if
Congress had enacted such a law. Naturally, if we should be happy
on account of a law passed by Congress, we would bless Congress.
Mr. PATTERSON. Will you please state exactly what your party
wants
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Annexation.
Mr. PATTERSON. Would they be satisfied with anything less than
annexation permanently?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They would be satisfied with something else
temporarily, because the census is a necessary thing. Now we do not
know what we are talking about.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you mnean by that, the opinion of the people
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. No. sir. 1 mean the census, the counting of the
people, to know whether the right of suffrage should be given or not.
It is necessary to know how many are illiterate, etc.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do you believe that if the Philippine Islands are
held as a colony of the United States without any promise of annexation at all that it will produce distrust among the people of the Philippine Islands against the Government of the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In that case I could not answer either for the
present or the future. In that case I would remain in the United
States with my children and not go back to the Philippines.
Mr. PATTERSON. As I understand, then, in case the United States
would not agree at some future time to annex the Philippine Islands
you would remain in the United States and not go back to the Philippine Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Will you please state why you would remain here
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because I would then not be a citizen, nothing
but a colonist.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do all the educated people in the archipelago agree
with you in your views on that subject?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The greater portion of them agree with me; some
do not.
Mr. PATTERSON. If the United States Government did not promise
independence at any stage, even now or in the future, would it cause
revolutions in the islands?
Mr. BUIENCAMINO. No. sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Would the Filipinos be peaceable and well disposed toward the United States if the Philippine Islands were held as
colonies and not annexed to this country?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir: but they could be reconciled.
Mr. PATTERSON. The only way to reconcile the people of the
islands and bring about a good feeling among them toward this
country is for this country to express its determination at some future
time to annex them as a part of the United States
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In my opinion the only solution of the difficulty
would be to annex the islands. I do not speak of content or discontent, but only in such case would the United States have true friends
in the Filipinos.
Mr. PATTERSON. Then. as I understand, the only way for the
Filipinos to become friendly to the United States is for a promise to
be made by our Government for future annexation of the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not say that. I say that the only solution
for the welfare of my people is annexation.
- Mr. PATTERSON. Would the Filipinos be friendly to this country if
held as colonists and not promised annexation?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; beginning with myself.
Mr. PATTERSON. Then, as I understand, neither you, nor any of your
party, nor any of the Filipino people would be satisfied unless promised
annexation?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. I understood you correctly, then?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Do the Filipinos desire to retain the lands in the
islands, or do they desire to have them turned over to corporations?
Mr. BUENaCAMINO. The Filipinos love their property very much and
only sell it when they have to do so.
Mr. PATTERSON. Will you please answer the question directly if the
Filipinos would desire the lands in the archipelago to be held in large
quantities by corporations?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There are 6,0,00,000 acres of land in the Philippines under cultivation and inhabited. The owners of these 6,000,000
acres want to own their property.
Mr. PATTERSON. Are you acquainted with the condition of affairs
in Mindanao in regard to slavery?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. PATTERSON. Will the Moros ever agree to give up their slaves?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They will never consent to give up their slaves.
Mr. PATTERSON. In other words, the Moros will not give up their
slaves without war?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is right. They would be wiped away
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Mr. PATTERSON. When the time comes, and when the American
Government attempts to free the slaves, would they not have a bloody
and longer war than was had with the Filipinos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, because it would only be necessary for the
United States to wage a hard war against them.
Mr. PATTERSON. Are not the Moros a very brave people, and would
not that be a bloody war?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They are not brave, and it would not be a bloody
war. The Moro is a coward.
Mr. PATTERSON. He is not a warlike man, then?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They are not a warlike people.    The Spanish
army would go through that country and fight two or three days, and
then the commander would state that he had no more ammunition,
and they would return to Manila. Therefore the Moros have been
led to believe that the Spaniards were afraid of them.
Mr. PATTERSON. That is not the question I asked. What I want to
know is whether the Moros would consent to release their slaves unless
a war of extermination was waged?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They would not.
Mr. PATTERSON. They would fight for their slaves until all of them
were killed?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. They would fight to the death for their
slaves.
Mr. PATTERSON. Then you do not mean to say that the Moros would
not fight?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not say that. They will fight, but they will
fight like cowards. They would go to the mountains like the Indians
in the United States fight.
Mr. PATTERSON. Still, they would fight?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but they would never form any organization.
The CHAIRMAN. Concerning the testimony of Mr. Buencamino as to
the date of his appointment and the authority by whom he was
appointed, I find in the report of the Philippine Commission:
The central government of the islands established in September, 1900, under the
instructions of the President, with a military governor as the chief executive and the
Commission as the legislative body, with certain executive functions in addition, continued until the 4th of July, 1901. At that time Maj. Gen. Adna R. Chaffee relieved
Major-General MacArthur as commanding general of this division and military governor. By the order of June 21 previous, in all organized provinces the civil executive authority theretofore reposed in the military governor and in the Commission
was transferred on July 4 to a civil governor. He was inaugurated with appropriate
ceremonies on July 4.
Therefore, Mr. Buencamino is correct in saying that General MacArthur was in charge until the 4th of July.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Was he appointed by the civil governor?
The CHAIRMAN. I suppose he held over.
Mr. JONES. That report says distinctly "civil provinces."
The CHAIRMAN. But he was appointed by the central government.
Thereupon, at 5.30 o'clock p. m., the committee adjourned to meet
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COMMITTEE ON INSULAR AFFAIRS,
Tuesday, Jine 3, 1902.
The Committee on Insular Affairs this day met, Hon. Henry A.
Cooper in the chair.
STATEMENT OF MR. FELIPE BUENCAMINO-Continued.
Mr. JONES. When did you first make known to any American the
information you have given this committee in regard to the alleged
secret preparations on the part of Aguinaldo and other Philippine
leaders, including yourself, to attack the American forces?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 have not stated to any American, nor have I
before the committee, as yet, made any statement as to any secret
preparations of Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. By whom were the secret preparations made, of which
you spoke?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. By General Luna in Manila.
Mr. JONES. When did you first make known to any American the
information you have given this committee in regard to alleged preparations on the part of General Luna and other Filipino leaders to
attack. the American forces?
Mr. BUENCAMIN-O. Only here.
Mr. JONES. Then I understand this is the first you ever made that
statement to any American?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In Manila it was no secret with General Otis,
therefore this is the first time. This is where it is being discussed as
a secret, not there.
Mr. JONES. During the insurrection of 1896-97 with whom did you
side; with the insurgents or with the Spaniards?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On the side of the Spaniards. As I already
stated at the last meeting, then the insurgents represented no formal
ideas nor did they represent any influential power. In 1898 Aguinaldo
proclaimed independence, as promised by Admiral Dewey.    You
observe the Spaniards did no longer defend themselves and were surrendering at that time.
Mr. JONES. I am not asking about the last insurrection. Is it not
a fact that the patriot Rizal, of whom you spoke in such exorbitant
terms at the last meeting, sympathized with the insurrection of 1896-97?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He sympathized with his people, but did not
approve of the insurrection. When Doctor Valenzuela went to Dapitan, where he saw him personally and spoke to him and invited him to
be the leader of the insurrection, Rizal refused to do this, and said one
hundred years would be necessary before the Filipinos could have a
successful insurrection. He further stated that it was not because the
people lacked in sentiment of justice and liberty, but they lacked
opportunity of establishing the means of using this liberty in a just
manner, and that more culture and study was necessary.
Mr. JONES (to the interpreter). I wish you would say to the witness I do not object to his making his answer as long as necessary to
explain what I ask of him, but I do not want him to go off on something irrelevant.
Mr. BUENcAMINO. It is my intention of throwing as much light as
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Mr. JONES. But I desire you to throw light on the particular subjects that I question you about.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Then I will curtail my statement.
Mr1. JONES. It is a fact, however, that Rizal did side with the insurgents during 1896-97?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. As one brother sympathzes with another brother
in misfortune and eVen in error.
The CHAIRMAN. When was Rizal shot?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. December 31, 1896, and the insurrection began
August, 1896.
Mr. JONES. Did you not during the period of 1896-97 organize
Filipino militia to fight against your own country?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but not against my own country, but
against a few of my people who had no well-defined ideas, in defense
of Spain.
Mr. JONES. Were you not a colonel in one of the regiments thus
organized?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. For one month-from May 1, 1898, until May
22-when the Spanish general sent me to Cavite to speak to General
Aguinaldo, and I was taken prisoner by Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. It is true, then, that for a period of at least one month
you were a colonel of a Filipino regiment, fighting on the Spanish side
against your own people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO: No; at that time all my people were against the
Americans and there was no war between the Filipinos and Spaniards.
We were making preparations against the Americans.
Mr. JONES. In 1896?
Mr. BUENCAIINO. I was not colonel in 1896. I understood the question to refer to 1898.
Mr. JONES. No; my question referred to 1896-I will get to 1898
presently.
Mr. BUFENCAMINO. I was not colonel at that time.
Mr. JONES. I will repeat my other question: Did vou not assist in
organizing Filipino militia to fight with the Spaniards against your
countrymen during the period of 1896-97.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but not to fight my people but to fight
the insurgents who amounted to about 1,600 men.
Mr. JONES. Were not the insurgents, who amounted to 1,600 men,
Filipinos, fighting the Spanish?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; they were Filipinos, but at the same
time they were stealing all they could and burning the towns. There
were no intelligent men among them. They had made no proclamation of any sort; they had no flag, nor did they represent any institution, so that the Filipinos were not on their side, but on the side of
the Spaniards.
Mr. JONES. What you say, then, with reference to these people
applies, does it not, to the insurrection of 1896-97 with which Rizal
sympathized?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. He also sympathized with them. Sentiment is one question and order another.
Mr. JONES. You sympathized with them and showed your sympathy
by organizing a force to fight them?
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do was not possible. That was the case with Rizal, who disapproved
of their actions but snympathized with them.
Mr. JONES. Rizal was murdered, was he not, as a consequence of
his sympathy with the insurgents during that insurrection?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was assassinated because of the enmity of
the friars.
Mr. JONES. This is a new version. Did you not during the year
1896 hold the rank of colonel in the forces that were opposing the insurrectionists?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. NO, sir.
Mr. JONES. Did you hold any military rank?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nothing but a volunteer; as all Filipinos were
under compulsion by the Spaniards.
Mr. JONES. Did you command any force as a volunteer?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No. sir; but in 1898 1 did command a force.
Mr. JONES. What month was that in 1898 when you commanded
this regiment of Filipinos against your own brethren?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I never had any command against my own people.
In May, 1898, I had a command against the Americans.
Mr. JONES. Did you not upon the return of Aguinaldo to Cavite go
to him for the purpose of inducing him to take up arms foi Spain as
against the United States, and did not Aguinaldo indignantly repudiate the proposition?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; that was 1my mlission.
Mr. JONES. Did not Aguinaldo convince you on that occasion that
the Filipinos, with the aid of the American forces, were going to win,
and did you not then become an ardent advocate of Filipino liberty
and independence?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. When I met Aguinaldo on the 2d of May, 1898,
I was not permitted to speak of my mission by Aguinaldo. I was
informed only that he, Aguinaldo, came to establish the independence
of the country with the assistance of Admiral Dewey. I then asked
him to present to me the documentary evidence, promising if he
would do so I would join them, first writing to the Spanish general,
but Aguinaldo did not produce this documentary evidence, and then I
told him I did not agree to the proposition because, as I told Aguinaldo, of the Spanish motto or saying, "Between a nation unknown
and a nation known the nation known is preferable." I did not know
the Americans; I did not know what they might be. I was
acquained with the Spaniards; consequently it was my duty to be on
Athe Spanish side.
Mr. JONES. And you did then go to Aguinaldo at Cavite for the
purpose of inducing him to abandon the Americans and to side with
the Spaniards against the American forces; that was your mission?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There were no American forces as yet at that
time, nor had Aguinaldo any troops yet, but he was going to organize
troops, and before he organized them I was trying to get him to join
the Spaniards, and I repeat the saying to which I have just called
attention.
Mr. JONES. At that time had not Admiral Dewey placed in the
hands of Aguinaldo arms with which to fight the Spaniards?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir. The occurrences I have already related
at the last meeting. The Spanish commander at Cavite capitulated to
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the Spanish squadron, and on May 1, 1898, the Filipinos entered the
city. Admiral Dewey informed the Filipinos he had not come to fight
the Filipinos, but they could enter and go out of the city of Cavite as
they pleased, and the Filipinos who entered the city found there some
rifles abandoned by the Spaniards and took those arms away with
them. but there was no formal delivery of arms by Admiral Dewey,
because on that date Aguinaldo was not there yet. Aguinaldo arrived
there on the 19th of May and those arms were gathered on the 1st
of May.
Mr. JONES. What time in May was it that you went to Aguinaldo
on this mission?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I went there on the 22d of May, but was received
on the 24th, in the evening.
Mr. JONES. That was after the Filipinos had gotten possession of
these arms which had belonged to the Spaniards and were to be used
against the Spaniards?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There was as yet no war against Spain. They
took the arms and hid them for future use. The war against Spain
began on the 28th of May of that year.
Mr. JONES. And it was on the 24th of May you saw Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. After the war commenced on the 28th of May, four
days after you had gone there for the purpose of inducing Aguinaldo
to side with the Spaniards, which side did you take
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was on the Spanish side. On the side of my
people, because Aguinaldo did not then represent my people, unless
you understand that there are no Filipino people except Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. How long after that was it before you cast your
fortunes in with Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On the 12th dav of June of the same vear.
Mr. JONES. Then you went to see Aguinaldo on the 22d day of
May for the purpose of inducing him to side with the Spaniards
against the Americans and in June of that same year you abandoned the
the Spaniards and went over to Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I did not abandon the Spaniards; the Spaniards
abandoned me, because the Spanish general in Cavite, who had 1,600
men under him and munitions of war and provisions for six months,
surrendered to Aguinaldo without firing a shot, saying that they did not
defend the cause of Spain in the Philippines, but the cause of the friars.
I could not be more Spanish than the Spaniards; as for example, if the
Americans should abandon the Filipinos now I could not defend the
Americans there.
Mr. JONES. Then you did not abandon the Spaniards until they had
surrendered to the Filipinos, and, as you say, they had abandoned
you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I was kept seventeen days a prisoner
of Aguinaldo, from the 22d of May to the 12th of June, and only when
I saw I was abandoned by the Spaniards I passed over to Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. Then you became an ardent advocate of liberty and independence for the Filipino people, did you not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; in view of Admiral Dewey's promise.
Mr. JONES. Have you not since you became an officeholder under
the Taft Commission also abandoned your religion and become a
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; my religion is that of Christ. All that
I have done is to abandon the friars and passed over to the Protestants,
because the latter are better interpreters of Christ, and the moral
peace which we now enjoy in the Philippines is due to them. At this
period, while the friars proclaimed death to the Americans-to all
American missionaries-the American missionaries proclaimed peace
and fraternity in favor of the friars, so that while before my religious
conversion no friar could enter Tondo, now they walk around there.
Mr. JONES. What denomination of the Protestant faith did you first
connect yourself with after leaving the Catholic Church?
Mr. BUENcAMINo. I do not want you to believe that I have ceased
to be a Christian.
Mr. JONES. But you have not answered my question as to what
denomination of the Protestant faith you joined.
Mr. BUENCA3INO. It is Presbyterian.
Mr. JONES. I saw it stated in the Washlington Post this morning
that you first became a Methodist and afterwards a Presbyterian; is
that true?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; it is complletely false.
Mr. JONES. You became a Presbyterian and you are a Presbyterian
now?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I did not become a Methodist because
I noticed that the Methodists have the same hierarchies as the Catholics.
Mr. JONEs. Did you not unite in a dispatch in XNovemlber, 1900, to
the Secretary of War, or in a request to Governor Taft to send a dispatch to the Secretary of War, in which you urged that the war shouldbe quickly terminated, and offered to assist by raising Filipino troops
to fight against your brother Filipinos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. In the month of the previous October
my brother had been assassinated, so I had already completely broken
with the insurgents. I did not wish any more Filipinos to be assassinated, and I desired the insurrection to be terminated in an honorable
way and not with the stain of assassination of their own brothers, as
has been the case up to the present time, unfortunately.
Mr. JONES. Did you use this language in your dispatch to the Secretary of War. "We affirm that the war should be quickly terminated ---"
The CHAIRIMAN. I should suppose you could get that dispatch from
the Secretary of War and cross-examine the witness upon the original
instrument rather than upon a translationMr. JONES. I have it here [reading], "and American sovereignty
established in all the archipelago. We will aid in this event to the
extreme of organizing a counter revolution, if desired-"
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Not "if desired."
Mr. JONES. "If desirable  "
Mr. BUENCAMINO. "If it should be necessary " was the language.
Mr. JONES. I have here what purports to be that dispatch, published
in the Outlook on March 2, 1901. That language appears in that.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It is a question of language or misunderstanding,
that is all. My idea was if Aguinaldo persisted in pursuing the war
without use then we would fight against him in order that more assassinations should be avoided, because it is very possible that there are
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Mr. JONES. Did you not, when a member of Aguinaldo's cabinet
write al address to the American Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. There was published in the Congressional Record this
morning what purports to be an address, or a copy of an address, sent
by you to the American Congress.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not desire to go back of any acts of mine
during the revolution. I entered with a pure and good idea in that
insurrection and I left it with the same ideas.
Mr. JONES. Then you acknowledge the authorship of this address?
Mr. BUENCAMIIO. I have not read it yet.
Mr. JONES. I have stated it was an address signed by him and
addressed to the Congress of the United States, and it was published in
the Congressional Record this morning, and I asked him, if not this particular address, if he had issued any such address. Now, I am going
to ask hinm whether this is the address or not. There can be no question about that.
Mr. TAW-NEY. I insist before he is interrogated on that point that
he be given an opportunity of seeing the address and an opportunity
of examining and reading it.
Mr. JONES. He can have all the opportunity he desires if you wish
to suspend for a few moments and let him look at it. I want to ask
him if he has read it; I think possibly his attention has been called
to it.
The CHAIRIMAN. What page of the Record?
Mr. JONES. It commences on page 6606.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have not been able to read any papers or anything for three days on account of my eyesight.
Mr. JONES. I just want to ask him in regard to two or three passages
and he can say whether he wrote those or not, and I will not take up
time with the whole address.
Mr. TAWNEY. I think if he is going to be interrogated on it, to be
entirely fair, the witness ought to read the entire address.
Mr. JONES. This is the official translation and I take it for granted
it is correct, but I simply want to ask him in regard to two or three
passages.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you permit me to ask one question? I notice
at the top of the document it says " official translation."  I do not find
anything in the remarks of Senator Patterson or in the copy itself to
indicate how these words " official translation " came to be used there
and what that means?
Mr. JONES. I do not know any more than I see here; I find it in the
Record. I simply desire to read one or two passages and ask him
whether those were in the address which he admits he addressed to
the American Congress.
Mr. TAWNEY. A good many things are incorporated in the Record
whichMr. JONES. Did you use this language: "Who is it that has caused
these two friends and brethren to wage war upon one another? Alas,
esteemed citizens of the great American Republic, you know well who
is the cause of such reckless perturbation. It is the President of your
Republic, Mr. William McKinley, who, using as a pretext alleged
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of friendship and guardianship which should unite the two nations by
imposing on us by force of arms the sovereignty of the United States."
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not remember exactly whether those were
my words, but it is a fact that at that time I thought that way, because I
understood that independence was the only form of protecting our life,
our honor, and property, and I had no confidence in any foreign sovereignty, and it is my duty to call the attention of the committee to the
fact that the Filipino occurrences were unexpected. We knew nothing
of political and international law at the time, because it was not taught
in the universities of Manila. They have only begun to study those
subjects during the last three years of war and colflict. This, I understand, and the greater portion of my people understand, that true
human happiness consists in protection of life, honor, and property, and
that the words "independence of America" Imean nothing more but
the means of using this protection.
The question now is, Can the Filipinos following under Aguinaldo
better protect their life and honor, or can they protect it better under
the protection of the United States? One must be very blind and
very dull if he did not see what would be the most advisable for the
Philippine people. Now, in order that the Philippines should have a
wise congress as that of the United States, which takes the trouble of
ascertaining the bad condition of the prostitutes, even, of Manila, looking into the American methods, taking care of their people as if they
were their own children, it would take much money and time. I have
not seen this done by our Philippine government nor by the Spanish
Government, and in order that we may have people of this culture it
is necessary that more than fifty years shall elapse and much money is
necessary to pay for all this.
Mr. JONES. Do you think that is at all reponsive to my question?
Mr. TAWNEY. It is to me.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Now we have all those advantages without spending a cent, and we are free from the threats of other foreign nations.
Why should we not be Americanists? It would not be for love we do
this, if you do not wish that it be so, but it is for the natural convenience
of every man; we must be Americans.
Mr. JONES. Now I will ask another question if he is through. He
testified at our last meeting in regard to the breaking out of hostilities
between the United States and the Filipinos. Did you or not use this
language in regard to the commencement of those hostilities in the
address which you sent to the American Congress, and from which I
shall now read:
Therefore it is plain that it can not be claimed that by reason of your victories
over the Spaniards rights of conquest accrue to you as being due from the Filipinos,
for the all-sufficient reason that vou were not engaged in war with us between the
1st of May, 1898, and the 4th of February, 1890, during the night of which latter
date your forces, in accordance with the orders of President William McKinley,
commenced hostilities against our forces for the purpose of establishing American
sovereignty in our archipelago by force of arms.
Did you not write that?.^   Mr. BUENCAMINO. NO, sir; I do not remember exactly. I am at a
disadvantage. You are reading from something in English and it has
been some time since, and before any questions are put in regard to
this alleged proclamation of mine I wish to be permitted to send to
Manila and get a Spanish copy, but it is a very hard place to put me
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The CHAIRMAN. Do you know, Mr. Jones, there is not a court in
Virginia which would permit the cross-examination of a witness on a
translation of a written instrument, the original of which you have not
tried to produce nor to account for, and when the translation is not
proven to be a correct one.
Mr. JONES. If you will pardon me for saving so, I know there is not
a court in Minnesota that would have permitted the chairman of this
committee to have asked the witness the leading questions you did on
Saturday about this very thing, and while we did not objectThe CHAIRMAN. I did not on Saturday know anything about this
memorial.
Mr. JONES. But you did ask about the commencement of hostilities
and you did ask leading questions and I am simply questioning him on
that subject. You did testify here on Saturday that very soon after
the 4th of February, I think in March of that year, 1899, at the request
of Aguinaldo you took the deposition of the major in command of the
Filipino forces?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. You did state to this committee in substance what that
deposition stated. If, then, what you are alleged to have written here
you did write, then you know, do you not, that what the major stated
in that deposition was not true?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was informed by the major it was the truth,
but my belief is that the hostilities were begun by the American forces.
That is my belief up to the present time. What 1 was referring to at
the last meeting was the statement of the commander.
Mr. JONES. I understand.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It was not my own opinion on the subject.
Mr. JONES. Your statement in that address to Congress, however,
was your statement on the matter, was it not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can notMr. JONES. I an not saying in this, but in the address you made to
the American Congress. Is the statement contained in that address
the truth as to the commencement of hostilities? I will undertake to
establish it is correct.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is my opinion. I do not say it was the
truth. As already stated in regard to the matter of the first shot,
there is nobody who can make a statement and claim that it is the
truth, from the fact because that shot was followed by so many others,
and they were very far from the place; so there can be nothing but
an opinion on the subject, and prejudices and passions of either side.
Mr. JONES. But you did express this opinion several months after
you had taken that deposition, the substance of which you related to
this committee?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; and 1 still express it, but not with those
words. I state my opinion that the first shot was fired by American
soldiers. That is my private opinion, and nothing but that, but it has
no more foundation than all other similar private opinions taken from
very obscure data, because after that first shot many others followed
and many were killed.
Mr. JONES. You have stated that over and over again. You entertain a private opinion that the Americans fired the first shot?
Mr. BUENCAMI-NO. My opinion is that the war was begun by the
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Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Mr. Chairman, I raise a point of order
that comments on the evidence ought to be made after it is in. Any
gentleman examining this witness ought to have the attention of the
committee. That is the way I feel about it. If an improper question
is raised, then it should be objected to.
The CHAIRMAN. I was myself paying very close attention to the
witness and did not observe any interruptions.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. I was the man who was indulging in some side
remarks.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I was not referring to that alone.
The CHAIRMAN. 1 agree with the gentleman from Illinois entirely.
Mr. CRUMPACKER. Then I withdraw the objectionable conduct.
Mr. JONES. If in your opinion, then, the hostilities were commenced
by the American forces, why did you go to the pains of setting forth
to this committee in substance the contents of the deposition of a man
who was in actual command of the Filipino forces on the 4th of February, 1899?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because I considered it my duty here not to
express opinions but to state facts. If you prefer opinions to facts I
will be glad to give them to you. but the truth will never be reached
in that way.
Mr. JONES. Then I will not press it any further, but will let it stand.
This paper I have here, which purports to be a copy of your address,
also contains this statement:
Consequently the treaty of Paris, 10th of December, 1898, does not convey any
sovereign rights whatever in favor of the United States over any of the Philippine
Islands or its inhabitants; nor are the United States in any way entitled by it to
impose upon the Philippine people an alien sovereignty by force of arms.
Do you still entertain that opinion, if you used that language?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. When I came here I devoted myself to a study
of the necessities of the Philippine people because I came to see my
sovereign, for which reason I have not taken the trouble of looking
up the data which were the cause of the breaking out of hostilities,
because I repeat what interests my people is not the discussion of past
acts but to cure the wounds of the war, as my country accepts now
the American sovereignty.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. I object to that and insist upon an
answer to the question.
Mr. TAWNEY. The witness has answered the question.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. He has not answered the question.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I insist on this mode of procedure. In
his own time or any other gentleman's time, if he wants to submit a
full statement or argument in support of his changing from one
position to another, let him make it; but in any court or in any oiher
place when a witness is asked a question he is expected to answer it
and not to make an argument to support a position he has taken on that
question.
Mr. TAWNEY. 1 move that the witness be allowed to proceed in the
manner in which he was proceeding without interruptions by the gen
tieman from Illinois.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I think that is entirely unfair.
The CHAIRMAN. The stenographer will read the question.
The question was read.
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hold the witness to the strict rules of examination the motion of Mr.
Williams, of Mississippi, is to be sustained. I therefore instruct the
witness that he will make his replies specific in answer to questions, as
nearly so as possible, and then, after he has made a direct reply, if he
desires to make an explanation he will be accorded that privilege.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. That is right.
Mr. JONES. Now, I wish the witness to state if he still entertains
that opinion?
Mr. BUENCAIMINO. I would like to have a translation submitted to
me of the entire alleged statement before I answer any questions.
That c(ocument was written in August, 1899.
Mr. JONES. Do you entertain the opinion that you are alleged to
have expressed in the language I have read?
Mr. TAWNEY. I object to the question. I submit if we are going to
bring this down to a technical examination, then submit the original
of which this purports to be a'translation.
Mr. JONES. I am afraid it is going the way of the deposition which
I wanted him to produce at the start, and he could not.
The CHAIRMAN. If he is to be held to the strict rules of evidence I
would rule that before any witness can be examined on a translation
he must be shown the translation and every opportunity afforded him
to acquaint himself with it, if there is no chance of getting the original.
Mr. JONES. If the examination as to this paper is postponed until
the next meeting of the committee and you have an opportunity to
examine the Congressional Record containing this article, do you think
you would be prepared to answer questions which may be asked you?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. If I can examine the translation-not by piecemeal, but if I have the whole thing.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. You can translate it for him?
Mr. JOANNINI. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. You will be prepared to answer questions at the next
meeting?
Mr. PATTERSON. Did you make the translation of this article?
Mr. JOANNINI. I do not know. If you will permit me to look at it
I will answer.
Thereupon the committee adjourned to meet at 11 a. im., Wednesday. June 4, 1902.
COMMITTEE ON INSULAR AFFAIRS,
WVednesday, June 4, 1902,
The Committee met at 11 o'clock a. n., Hon. Henry A. Cooper in
the chair.
STATEMENT OF MR. FELIPE BUENCAMINO-Continued.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Jones, you may proceed with the examination.
Mr. JONES. Have you ever examined the memorial to Congress prepared by yourself, which was printed in the Congressional Record?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Is it correct and authentic?  '
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With regard to its authenticity, I can not say,
because what was authentic was the Spanish. With regard to the
ideas it contains, they are exactly those which I entertained at that
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time. With your permission, I will make a further statement inr
regard to the memorial.
Mr. JONES. Before you make that further statement I would like to
ask you one or two questions, and then you will be permitted to make
any statement or explanation which you desire, but I would much prefer that you answer my questions as briefly as possible before you
make any statement or explanation.
What authority had you for your statement contained in this
memorial to Congress that the American forces commenced hostilities
on the 4th of February, 1899, in accordance with the orders of President William McKinley?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The authority of the council of Aguinaldo as I
wrote that memorial, not as Felipe Buencamino, but as the secretary
of Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. The memorial is signed "Felipe Buencamino," not as
secretary of Aguinaldo, or in any other official capacity. Why did
you not sign it as secretary for Aguinaldo if you wrote it at his
instance
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If your memory does not fail you you will
remember that I said the document was not authentic.  In the
authentic document in Spanish which I wrote my title appears as
secretary of Aguinaldo, and that appears in the preamble in the
English itself —that I wrote this at the command of ny government,
at that time Filipino.
Mr. JONES. I understand you to say that when this memorial was
written you entertained exactly the sentiments and opinions expressed
in it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It is my opinion that when I acted officially as
secretary I did not express but the logic of the documents which were
presented to me by Mr. Aguinaldo. Those documents were denied by
Admiral Dewey, as well as by Consul Pratt at Singapore and by Consul Wildman at Hongkong, afterwards, and for those reasons nobody
paid any attention to this document at that time, when some attention
should have been paid to it. No American paid any attention to it at
that time, and now there is a great deal made of it.
Mr. JONES. You attach to that memorial a number of additional
documents which you declare in the memorial would sustain the statements which you had made. Are those documents authentic?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They were given to me as authentic documents,
but th    r    nid      h n xt      they were denied to such an extent that Consul Pratt brought a
suit against Bray, Aguinaldo's agent in Singapore, and the British
tribunals in Singapore sentenced this Englishman for libel and to pay
a fine of $6,000, which Agoncillo asked me, as secretary of state, to
authorize him to pay.
Mr. JONES. I do not find among the documents submitted by you
but two that are signed by Consul Pratt [handing witness pamphlet].
Are those the documents which you say Consul Pratt repudiated?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; he did.
Mr. JONES. Was the suit of which you spoke brought on account of
the misrepresentations contained in these two documents or in other
documentsand statements?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In those documents and in other statements.
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. These and others. I would now like to make an
explanation.
Mr. JONES. I would like to ask you a few questions first.
I observe in examining this memorial that you base the argument
which you make for Philippine independence largely on the statements of Generals Anderson, MLerritt, and Otis, and that you filed with
this memorial letters from those American officers to sustain that
argument, and also letters and dispatches from Commodore Dewey.
Are those documents authentic?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They were given to me as authentic.
Mr. JONES. Have you ever heard their authenticity questioned by
any of those officers?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Which document and which officer?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. All. Now, I would like to explain why they were
repudiated.
The CHAIRMAN. I think the witness has the right to make that
explanation.
Mr. JONES. He wants to make a long statement in regard to these
things.
The CHAIRMAN. The explanation will be more effective if it is made
at the time the witness thinks he ought to make it in justice to himself.
Mr. JONES. I shall not object if, when he is through, he will say he
is through and let me go on with the examination.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have said that all these documents have been
repudiated by the Americans who appear as the signers thereof according to a letter from Agoncillo himself. Then Sixto Lopez accused
Agoncillo of being a traitor, at which time he was Agoncillo's secretary. He left Agoncillo, and in his turn Agoncillo accused Lopez of
being a traitor. I told Aguinaldo, " It is impossible for us to be independent.  We have only four Filipinos in Europe and in other foreign
countries to represent us-Agoncillo, Regidor, Sixto Lopez, and Apacible-" and all four were at odds. For this reason this document has
absolutely no value to me. Agoncillo wrote me, as secretary of state,
that the officers had repudiated this document. The authentic copy
of this document, which I prepared, was sent to the Hongkong junta
to make use of it before the congress, authorizing them to expend
$50,000 in its promulgation. Naturally I requested an accounting of
this money afterwards, and the answer by Agoncillo was that it was
not made use of at all, because of the Americans who appeared therein
repudiating the documents. If you wish to force me to it, I will
be obliged to divulge the secrets of Agoncillo, Sixto Lopez, and
Aguinaldo.
Mr. JONES. I would be very glad to have them myself.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. But I have not them at my disposition. Perhaps
the War Department or the civil government in Manila, which captured all the documents of the Philippine government, can furnish that
information; then the repudiation of the entire document will be seen
there.
Mr. JONES. Although you admit that you prepared this memorial
to Congress, and that it correctly represents the views which vou entertained at that time, you now say that you repudiate, for the reasons
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Mr. TAWNEY. Before he answers that question, has he said that the
memorial correctly represents his views? Did he not say that it was
written for Aguinaldo?
Mr. JONES. He said that it did represent his individual views and
sentiments, and that he wrote it at the instance of Aguinaldo, and that
he did entertain those views at that time.
You have not, as I understand, translated the document?'
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have read it.
Mr. JONES. You have read it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. And it correctly expresses the ideas which you entertained at that time and which you intended by it to convey to the
American Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; by reason of Admiral Dewey's alleged
promises.
Mr. JONES. Do I understand you to say that the original in Spanish
had been sent to Hongkong. to the junta there?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Is the original in Hongkong now? Do you know where
it is?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not know. I suppose it must be there.
Mr. JONES. Why did you say. then. on yesterday, that you would
like to be allowed, before testifying as to this, to send to Manila and
get the original?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have a copy in Manila. It was printed in
Spanish. But the original, signed by Aguinaldo, was sent to Hongkong.
The CHAIRMAN. The original was signed by Aguinaldo?
Mr. B1UENCAMIINO. Yes, sir; and for this reason: It would not have
been accepted as authentic with imy signature only. After my signature Aguinaldo put the word "authentic" and affixed his signature.
These are some of Aguinaldo's secrets.
Mr. JONES. The copy of that memorial which I have in my hand,
and which 1 have shown to the -witness, contains a note in these words:
Official editions of this correspondence have been forwarded throlgh the post to
the presidents of both Houses.
Mr. BUENCAUINO. That appears there, but on the original, of course,
it did not appear. The members of the junta at Hongkong were the
ones to do that.
Mr. JONES. This seems to have been printed in Hongkong.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That may be, but I have not submitted any English documents to the Hongkong junta, but a document in Spanish for
transmission by the junta here.
Mr. JONES. 'Was Sixto Lopez a member of the junta.'
Mr. BUENCAMINO. He was Agoncillo's secretary, that is to say,. a
clerk of the junta. He did not become a full member of the junta.
Mr. JONES. Would Sixto Lopez from his own knowledge be able to
testify as to the translation of this document and whether or not it was
transmitted to the Congress of the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. At that period Agoncillo and Sixto Lopez were
already at odds and two bands were formed, one composed of Regidor
and Sixto Lopez and the other of Agoncillo and Apacible, and I do
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Mr. JON ES. I do not find any statement in any of the documents
which accompany this memorial which would justify you in making
the statement that hostilities were commenced by the American forces
on the 4th of February, 1899, in accordance with the orders of President McKinley, and I want you to state why you entertained that
idea and made that statement to the American Congress.
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. This is my conviction, and I maintain it up to the
present time, for the following reasons: In the first place, because on
that day, the 4th of February, as I was with Aguinaldo constantly, I
knew that he had not issued any order for the beginning of hostilities.
As 1 said before in my first statement, we received a telegram from
Agoncillo in October, 1898, stating that we would be deceived by
President McKinley and the American Congress, and consequently
that we should make preparations for war. As I have already said,
Aguinaldo and Luna began making preparations. Secret preparations
were made in Manila to catch the American Army between two fires.
The CHAIRMAN. When did those preparations begin?
Mr. BuENCAnIINO. In October.
The CHAIRMAN. What year?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1898. General Otis discovered the secret preparations in Manila and he ordered all houses searched and found more
than 500 rifles; but we had more than 1.600 rifles hidden.  Our
engineer battalions and four cavalrhy troops were still to be organized
before the orders to attack were to be given, and it is very possible
that General Otis, before permitting himself to be caught between
two fires, and knowing the decisive intention of General Aguinaldo to
attack the American forces, took precautions in order not to see himself caught again, because the American forces were very small at the
time and it was Luna's intention to collect our 40,000 rifles and enter
Manila, and for that reason I sustained the opinion; but I have not
the evidence that the order to attack came from the American forces.
Not as a political question, perhaps, but as a question of vital necessity.
Mr. JONES. You now speak of Aguinaldo and Luna commencing to
make preparations with a view to organizing a force to oppose the
Americans. On yesterday, when I asked you about these alleged
preparations on the part of Aguinaldo, you said that you had never
said that Aguinaldo made any preparations, and I asked you then
whom you had said had made preparations, and you said that General
Luna made them. Why is it now that you undertake to connect
Aguinaldo with what you said yesterday he had nothing to do?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. You asked me yesterday if I said to anyone
before I appeared before the committee that Aguinaldo had made
secret preparations in Manila to attack the American forces. That is
what I deny. I never, before I appeared here, made such a statement.
I have never told any of Aguinaldo's secrets, and if General Otis discovered them, he discovered them for himself. That is what I said
yesterday. So there is no contradiction at all in what I have said.
Mr. JoNEs. The notes of the stenographer will show, and I hope
they will be properly transcribed.
In this memorial these words are used:
It is sometimes said that we are to blame for the outbreak of hostilities (luring the
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. For the attack of that night they were
not to blame at all.
Mr. JONES. For the attack of that night the Filipinos were not to
blame at all?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is my opinion.
Mr. JONES. It is also stated in this nmemorial:
It is unquestionable that we were not aggressors, for we know full well that were
we to act on the offensive we could look for neither military or political gain of any
kind. On the contrary, we regarded such action as bordering on suicidal folly, and
well-nigh sure to bring down on us the hatred and contempt of the American people. We had, in fact, nothing to gain and very much to lose by aggression.
Did you write that statement, expressing your own views and those
of your associates, or did vou write it as expressing the views of
Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. I wrote that statement as expressing the views of
Aguinaldo's private secretary; not as a private individual.
Mr. JONES. Do I understand vou to say by that answer'that you did
not entertain the views expressed in that statement, but that you were
simply acting as the private secretary to Aguinaldo
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir: I did not say that.    I answered your
question. You asked me from the document, and the document was
prepared by the private secretary. If you will now ask me if that is
my opinion, I will answer the question.
Mr. JONES. Did you entertain that opinion at that tilme
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; and up to the present time.
Mr. JONES. Up to the present timel
Mr. BUENCAmINO. Yes, sir; with regard to that specific point.
Mr. JONES. Then I understand you to say that that statement
expressed your honest opinion at that time and the opinion which you
still entertain in regard to that matter:
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The stenographer will please read that question
and answer.
The stenographer read as follows:
Mr. JONES. Then I understand you to say that that statement expressed your honest
opinion at that time, and the opinion which you still entertain in regard to that
matter?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Then when you used the word " we" you were expressing the opinion that was entertained by your associates as well as yourself, were you not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; with regard to that specific point of the
document.
Mr. JONES. It is also stated in this memorial address thatWe have accepted an enlightened religion-the Roman Catholic faith.
Whose opinion were you expressing then, your own or Aguinaldo's?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Of course we considered religion in that case
from a political point. We were not looking at religion there as a
question of conscience, because in the constitution of the Philippine
republic the principle of freedom of worship is embodied. We only
spoke there of religion in order to express to the Christians of America
that we had a religion similar to their own-a religion of the civilized
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Mr. JONES. Aml I to understand from that answer that you do not
now regard the Roman Catholic faith as an enlightened religion?
The CHAIRKMAN. The witness does not have to answer that question.
Mr. JONES. I do not understand that the witness objects.
The CHAII MAN. That question tends to arouse a religious prejudice
against this gentleman, and he need not answer.
Mr. JONES. The witness admitted on yesterday that he had changed
his religious faith, and he gave his reasons for it and commented very
seriously upon the friars in the Philippine Islands. I did not ask him
about the friars yesterday; I asked him about the Roman Catholic
faith; but he made the statement in giving his reasons for a change of
faith. Now, I find in this memorial that he does not speak of the
friars at all, but he speaks of the Roman Catholic Church and its
enlightened faith, and in the answer which he has given to my question
he said he used this expression in a political sense. That would seem
to indicate that he did not regard the Catholic religion as an enlightened
faith.
Mr. TAWNEY. That is not interesting to us.
Mr. JONES. It is a matter of a good deal of interest to the American
people when a witness comes all the way from the Philippine Islands
to testify before this committee, to know something about his antecedents and to know something about the motives which prompted him to
make such a statement. In other words, whether he is conpetent to.speak for the Philippine people whom he claims to represent before
the committee. However, I shall not press the question.
In this statement you use the pronoun "I," having heretofore used
the word "we."
I am of opinion that the most natural sequence of these incontestable moves of
Mr. McKinley is to be found in the outbreak of hostilities, namely, an order from
your President to General Otis to commence the acts of aggression and impose on us
that odious sovereignty by force of arms, notwithstanding the fact that we have
demonstrated and made it evident in every possible way from the first that we would
accept no solution other than our independence.
In that passage did you express your own individual views or the
views of Aguinaldo, as his secretary?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have said that that document was not authentic,
and if you find there the word " we " and then " I" I am sure that in
the Spanish there would be nothing of that kind, although with the
Spanish language there is a form of speech so that in public documents it is the customi to use and understand as synonymous the words
"we" and "1."
Mr. JONES. Did that passage express your views at that time?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Not only at that time, but now. Now I would
like to make a statement.
Mr. JONES. Certainly.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. We had great confidence in the alleged promises
-of Admiral Dewey, which promises were later forgotten, and not only
forgotten but contradicted by President McKinley, so that if these
facts were true, every honest man would have to hate President
McKinley, but that was not the case, because Admiral Dewey never
made promises of that kind. Now, to continue, it would be necessary
for me to enter into Aguinaldo's secrets and I request that I be excused
from entering into them, but if compelled to do so I will, but it must
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will, but under compulsion. Consequently, if my opinion is different
now. it is because I have been convinced that such promises never
existed, and that Aguinaldo had many secrets which forced our intelligent people to separate themselves from him in an honorable way.
Mr. JONES. You said in this memorial:
The only possible way to accomplish your object is to destroy the lives of 8,000,000
Filipinos, an act which would leave on the hithertoMr. BUENCAMINO. I do not understand that question very fully.
Mr. JONES. You desire me to repeat the question.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If you please.
MIr. JONES. This memorial addressed to the American Congress
made use of these words:
The only possible way to accomplish your object is to destroy the lives of 8,000,000
Filipinos, an act which would leave on the hitherto spotless pages of your glorious
history and traditional liberality an everlasting an(t indelible stain.
Now, what I want to know is, Do you still adhere to that statement,
that the only possible way by which the American people can extend
their sovereignty over the Philippine Islands is to destroy the lives of
8,000,000 Filipinos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That was the idea of the Philippine government
at that time, but the true facts are that, beginning with Aguinaldo, all
those who said they were going to die are still living.
Mr. JONES. And one of those still living is yourself, and you are
enjoying a fat office under the American Government, are you not?
And your associate, Aguinaldo, is now in prison
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Buencamino is alive, and he has admitted many
times that he holds an office.
Mr. JONES. We know that Aguinaldo is alive and that he is now a
prisoner.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but I did not express my opinion in
that case. There I expressed the opinion of Aguinaldo and one of
the bravest men they had at that time. Consequently if I live now it
is not because I surrendered. I was captured, and if I live now it is
due to the humanity of the American Army, which should have shot
me twenty times over. For this reason I esteem the American sovereignty now because I have understood it to be a very humane one.
Mr. JONES. You speak of having been captured. Has it not been
questioned in the Philippine Islands whether or not you were actually
captured?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nobody has ever questioned that fact, because
had I surrendered I would not have been in prison five months. The
other secretaries of Aguinaldo all surrendered. The only one who did
not surrender was myself. None of the secretaries of Aguinaldo were
in prison for one day, only 1; so I do not understand why that question
should be asked me, as I was captured with the mother of Aguinaldo.
Thereupon, at 12:10 o'clock p. m., the committee took a recess until
2 o'clock p. m.
AFTER RECESS.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Jones, you may proceed.
Mr. JOANNINI. Mr. Buencamino wishes to state that no answer
which he made this morning was to be interpreted as meaning that he
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the memorial, when he believed that promises had been made by
Admiral Dewey.
Mr. JONES. When you visited Cavite in 1898. for the purpose of
inducing Aguinaldo to take sides with the Spaniards as against the
Americans, did you hold any official position under the Spanish
Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was a colonel.
Mr. JoNEs. You were then a colonel in the service of Spain?
Mr. IBUENCAMINO. I was a colonel in the service of my country,
which was Spain.
Mr. JONES. How long had you held that commission under the
Spanish Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I had held it twenty-two days-from the 1st of
May to the 22d of May-when I was taken prisoner bv Aguinaldo.
That was in 189S.
Mr. JONES. How long after you were taken prisoner by Aguinaldo
was it before you renounced your allegiance to Spain and became an
adherent of Aguinaldo's?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Seventeen days-frome May 22 to June 12.
Mr. JONES. How long was it from the time of your capture by the
American forces before you joined your fortunes with the Americans
and withdrew from all connection with the insurgents I
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Two years after my imprisonment by Aguinaldo.
That is, I was captured by Aguinaldo May, 1898, and on May 28,
1900, I went over to the side of the Americans.
Mr. JONES. How long after your release from imprisonment by
General Otis was it before youtook office under General MacArthur
as interpreter?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On April 15, 1900, I was set at liberty, and on
October 15 of that year General MacArthur requested me to serve as
his interpreter from Tagalo to Spanish.
Mr. JONES. Did you continue in his service as such interpreter up
to the time you were appointed a member of the civil service commission?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. And from that time up to the present time you have
been holding office under the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. But I wish to state that I was also
requested to fill the position of member of the civil-service board, because
at the beginning irreconcilable Filipinos did not wish to submit to civil
service by means of examination, accustomed as they had been to
appointments by reason of favoritism under the Spanish Government
and under the government of Aguinaldo. Then I was addressed by
Governor Taft, and I went about all the Philippine circle and spoke of
the good character of the civil-service law, and from the time that I
entered the civil-service board until I left Manila 4,600 Filipinos had
been examined through my efforts. Had I not been on this board,
where I receive but a salary of $291 per month, much less than the
sum received by Aguinaldo from the American Government, I would
have been attending to my law practice, which is worth $1,000 a month,
and consequently the position I now hold can not be looked upon as a
purchase of my honor.
Mr. JONES. Is it not true that since the 1st day of May when the
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in the service of the Spanish Government, private secretary to Aguinaldo, secretary of state of the insurgent government, director of
justice of the army of the insurrection government, interpreter for
General MacArthur in the service of the American Government, and
also civil-service commissioner at a salary of $3,500 in gold per annum,
notwithstanding the fact that you say that you could have made $1,000
per month by your law practice in Manila?
Mr. B UENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. It is true, then, that during these four years you have
held office under the Spanish Government as a colonel of a regiment
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Without salary.
Mr. JONES (continuing): Colonel of a regiment, without salary, in
the Spanish army, a prominent official under the insurgent government
Mir. BUENCAMINO. Without salary.
Mr. JONES. Yes, sir; and now a prominent official in the American
Government with salary?
Mr1. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. For this reasonl I wish to state that I
consider the American Government a just Government. To give to
everyone what belongs to him is just.
Mr. JONES. Do you base your idea of justice upon the fact that the
American Government pays vou a salary and that neither of the other
governments paid you anythingS
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is one of the most insignificant details of
American justice. If my respect for you and this committee did not
prevent I would be glad to give details of American justice.
Mr.,JONES. What other memiers of your family, if any, are holding office under the Government of the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. None at all.
Mr. JONES. Have any held office?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. None at all.
Mr. JONES. I observe that the letter of the Secretary of War, dated
March 20, 1902, addressed to Mr. Jose C. Abreu, is addressed to him
at the Insular Division, War Department, Washington, D. C. Does
he hold any position under the Insular Division?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. When I said that no relative of mine held office,
I was referring to the Philippine government.
Mr. JONES. 1 asked you whether any members of your family were
holding office under the United States Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I thought you were referring to questions in the
Philippines.
Mr. JONES. Now that you know I am referring to the United States
Government, I wish you would state whether, in the Philippines or in
the United States, there are any members of your family holding
positions.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Mr. Abreu is a relative of my wife, and not a
direct connection of mine, and I can also say that it is a very distant
relationship which I have with Mr. Abreu, just a detail of relationship.
Mr. JONES. The Secretary of War says in a letter to the chairman
of this committee:
I inclose an original letter received by me last March from Mr. Buencamino's
nephew, Mr. Jose C. Abreu, which shows the way in which Mr. Buencamino
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Then the Secretary of War was mistaken in calling him your
nephew?
MAr. BUENCAMINO. He is the nephew of my wife, and according to
Philippine usage the nephew of the wife is the nephew of the husband.
Mr. JONES. According to Philippine usage, have you any relative
in the service of the United States Government'?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nobody except Mr. Abreu. Mr. Abreu is about
to leave for the Philippines.
Mr. JONES. Mr. Williams, of Illinois, wants to ask the witness some
questions.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. That is, unless the chairman wishes to
proceed.
The CHAIRMAN. I would like to ask the witness a few questions in
view of the questions Mr. Jones has asked him.
Mr. Jones in his question to you said that you were enjoying a
"fat" office and that Aguinaldo was in prison. 'Will you state how
Aguinaldo is treated-whether he is in prison or not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Aguinaldo has a palace for a prison. It is a
palace to this extent, that before Aguinaldo occupied it it was occupied
by Mr. Worcester, one of the Commissioners. If I am not mistaken,
the military government pays 8500 per month rent for the house. I
can also say that it is as large as the White House here in Washington.
The CHAIRIAN. Who lives with Mr. Aguinaldo?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. His wife and his entire family. He has an
American physician free of charge and servants paid by the Government. And the Government gives him 16 pesos, Mexican, per day for
food for himself and his family.
The CHAIRMAN. So that while you have been enjoying a 'fat" office,
Mr. Aguinaldo has been doing pretty well himself?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes. sir. He also has a carriage for his own use.an time he wishes.
The C-HAIRMAN. Is he allowed visitors?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Whenever he wants them.
The CHAIRMAN. You stated that you desired to make an explanation
of a reply which you gave to Mr. Jones when he asked vou concerning the memorial, and your desire therein expressed for the independence of the Philippines. In the memorial you also said that President McKinley was responsible for the inauguration of hostilities
against the Filipinos. You said you had changed your views and
desired an opportunity to make an explanation. You may now make
the explanation.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
When I was asked in regard to this matter by Mr. Jones, as to my
idea of independence in the Philippines, I answered that I did favor
independence, having referred to what appeared in the documents at
that time. When I was asked by Mr. Jones as to the liability of
President McKinley with regard to hostilities, I answered "Yes,"
referring to the promise given by Admiral Dewey to Aguinaldo,
believing that that promise was so, and that if President McKinley
violated the promise it was evident that he was responsible for the
outbreak of hostilities, because the Filipinos, and I with them, are
disposed always to fight those who deceive us.
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; to such an extent that by errors altogether
caused by these promises, of which we were told by Mr. Aguinaldo,
we continued the war; but we have destroyed these errors by means of
better data and we have arrived at the point of believing that the possession of the Philippines by the American Government was a work of
humanity: that is to say, by not returning us again to the Spaniards.
When I left prison I read the documents referring to the treaty of
Paris, and I there saw that the American conmissioners, answering
the Spanish commissioners as to the return of the Philippines, wrote
the following words:
With honor, for humanity's sake, we can not return the Philippines to you, because
you would exercise greater cruelty on account of the Philippine insurrection against
you.
I saw those words, which proved to me that the intention of America
in retaining the Philippines was a humane one and a charitable one.
That is one of the points which opened my eyes to become an American. The other points which have opened my eyes, I have already
spoken of at the last meeting.
The CHAIRMAN. What were they?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. On the second day, when questioned by Mr. Patterson, I stated that I had read the municipal code of General Lawton,
the marriage law, the law of criminal procedure, and the habeas
corpus, etc., and that they contributed to my change of opinion.
Then I observed what American justice was, and it agreed exactly
with my revolutionary ideas and for that reason I wrote to Aguinaldo,
saying that the war was useless and that the name Filipino could be
renounced because it signified slavery. It is derived from Philip II,
a Spaniard, the worst king who has ever lived, and who ordered the
execution of more than 100,000 by means of the tribunals of the
inquisition.
Mr. JONES. You spoke of the treatment which Aguinaldo has been
receiving, although in prison, at the hands of the American authorities. Is it true or not that the luxuries which you refer to as being
received by him are paid for out of the revenues of the Philippine
government and not out of any funds belonging to the United States
Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not say whether it is paid for from Philippine revenues or from United States funds. I never had occasion to
make that distinction. I am an American, and all the money in the
Philippines, the air, the light, and the sun I consider American.
Mr. JONES. Is it not a fact that your salary, the salaries of the
Philippine Commissioners, the teachers, the retinue of employees and
servants, and the whole government-is it not a fact that all of those
salaries are paid out of Philippine revenues, and not a dollar is contributed by the United States Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not know, but what I can say is, that by
reason of the war more than $160,000,000 of United States money has
come into the Philippines. So, from an economical standpoint, it
would be good for the war to continue.
Mr. JONES. Would it not also be good for the war to continue from
a personal standpoint?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. NO, because my person is just like that of any
other man who is civilized; no civilized man would want war.
Mr. WILLIAMS of Illinois. Please state how and where it was first
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. From the time that I was in prison I considered
it my duty to come to the United States, in the first place to bring my
sons here, because at that time my country was sick from the sickness
of patriotism. What I call " sickness of patriotismn " can be compared
to a fever. When it is very high the person suffering becomes delirious and irresponsible, and I desired to send nmy children, the eldest
of whom is 16 and the next 13 years of age, to the United States,
because the insurgents in the country were calling upon the young'
boys and seducing- theni with patriotic words, which produced this
patriotic fever. When nlv children were here, every year I was thinking of coming to the United States. but the work of pacification in the
Philippines, in order to avoid the shedding of more blood, and more
destruction, and to save Aguinaldo himself, and all his mien, I desired
to remain in the Philippines until peace was an established fact, and
when I left the Philippines to visit my children I was assured of the
fact that the masses would never revolt again for the reason stated.
They are now happy comlpared to the times under the Spanish Government. and have been relieved from matny taxes and manv abuses and
the large number of authorities that domineered over them. Since
that time have I thought of coming to the United States, and the
president of Berkley Ulniversity can prove this statement.
The (CHAIRMAN. What university?
Mr. JOANNINI. The Berkeley University, where his children are now.
The CHAIRMAN. Is that in California? Is it in the State University?
Mr. JOANNINI. Yes, sir.
Mr. WVILLIAMIs, of Illinois. When did it first occur to you to come
here on this mission, and please confine your answer to that question?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. September of last year.
Mr'. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Last September?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; when the petition of the Federal party
was prepared.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. To come here in the interest of the
petitioners
Mr. BUENCAIINO. I proposed to come here at that time.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You proposed to come?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. With what Americans, if any, did you
confer before leaving the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I conferred with everybody; I went and said
good-bye to everybody.
Mr. WILLIAMs, of Illinois. I mean the American officers, on this
subject?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; I conferred with all-with privatesindividuals and with officers.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What American officers?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With all the officials there; but there was no
official conference, or anything of that kind; just to say good-bye.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you say that you were going to get
Congress to grant the prayer of their petition, or as nearly as you
could?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because 1 thought that a definite law
should be enacted.
Mr. HAMILTON. What petition are you referring to?
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. The memorial which has been presented
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Mr. HAMILTON. The one of last December?
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Yes, sir. Mr. Buencamino understands
that.
Did you make known to the American authorities in the Philippines
that that was the purpose of your visit?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WnILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did they encourage you to come or try
to discourage you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They were not encouraging me, but I was entitled
to a leave of absence, and I made use of it in this way; that was the
special reason I asked for a leave of absence.
Mr. WILLIAMS. of Illinois. Did you confer with any of them as to
how you should proceed when you got to the United States?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you know before you left the Philippine Islands that there was a bill pending in Congress for the establishment of civil government in the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. What I knew of was that the recommendations
of the Civil Commission had been made, with which I do not agree.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You, then, do not agree with the recommendations of the Commission
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In many points, no; and that is one of the reasons why I do not believe I am in the confidence of Governor Taft.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You said that you understood that there
would be some legislation at this Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; I was under the impression that Congress
was to legislate in a permanent manner for the future of my country.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. And you came over here to present that
petition to Congress before legislation was enacted?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; before the final bill should be passed,
requesting that the final bill should embody the petition of the Federal
party.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. How did you know but what the bill
would be acted upon before you could reach here?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. For the simple reason that we receive the Associated Press news in the Philippines.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Then you did know that bills were
pending in Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nothing but just the plain facts. I knew that a
bill was pending without knowing what the bill contained.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You could not tell from the Associated
Press dispatches but what the matter would be finally disposed of by
Congress before vou arrived here?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I did not know that, but I received newspapers
in Honolulu, on my way here, which gave me further reports.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What was your intention when you left
the islands; to appear before the committees of Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir. My intention was to visit the President
of the United States, because as we did not know whether we were
Americans or foreigners, I desired to ask the President whether I
could appear before the committee or before anybody else or to whom
I should submit the petition of the Federal party.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you go to the President?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; for the reason that I consider the Secretary of War my chief?
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What course did they suggest for you
to take?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That if 1 had anything to say before Congress 1
could appear before the committees if I wished. 1 knew nothing of
the procedure observed in the United States.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. When you went to see the Secretary of
War you went for the purpose of getting permission to appear before
Congress?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you discuss with the Secretary of
War at any length the subject which you have testified to before the
committee
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you discuss it at all with him?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No; the only statement which I made to the Secretary of War was an assurance that there would be no further revolution in the Philippines and that, in my opinion, the American troops
should not vet be withdrawn in the provinces of Mindanao, Bohol,
Leyte, and Samar.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Who first notified you to appear before
the committee, and when were you notified?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was informed by the Secretary that if I had
any petition to present to Congress I should present it to the committee.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I asked by whom and when you were
advised to appear before this committee?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 asked how to present the petition and I was
told to present it to the committee.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Will you please state how and when you
received notice to appear at the first meeting of this committee at
which you testified?
Mr. TAWNEY. Perhaps the chairman of the committee could answer
that question.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Yes; but I am asking this gentleman.
Mr., BUENCAMINO. The day that I spoke to the Secretary of War,
having told him that I had a petition from the Federal party to the
American Congress for the permanent control of the country, he told
me that I could not appear directly before Congress, but that I could
appear before the committees.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did he tell you that day when you should
appear?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. When and how did you get notice to
come to the first meeting of this committee?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. From the chairman.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. From the chairman of this committee?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I went to call on the chairman of the
committee and asked him when I could be heard, and the chairman
said on the morning that I came here.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. On the morning that you came here you
went to see the chairman?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I do not remember whether it was the same
morning or the previous morning.
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Mr. BUENCAMIN'O. That I could come at 11 o'clock the next morning.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Then it was the day before?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes: I think it was.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Now, in the revolution of 1896, you said
that while you were recruiting Filipinos for the Spanish army that
the insurrectionists numbered alout 1,500?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About 1,600.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What was the number of the Spanish
forces at that time?
Mr1. BUENCAMIINO. Ten thousand Filipinos and 500 Spaniards, because
the Spanish army in the Philippines has always been composed of
Filipinos.
\Mr. IWIILLIAMS, of Illinois. I just asked for the number att that time.
Mr. BUEN-CAMINO. I think the army was composed of 10,000 Filipinos and 500 Spaniards.
Mi1. WILLIAMS. of Illinois. What was the necessity of trying to
increase the Spanish forces if the insurrectos only numbered 1,600 at
that time?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The reason for getting more Spanish forces was
they were scattered through the entire archipelago, whereas these
1.600 insurrectos were all in a bunch.
Mr1. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I call your attention to this language
used in your memorial to Congress, in August, 1899. on page 6607:
We are a community of 8,000,000 people, politically organized on well-defined
territory, with our own government, which is comnletent to and sufficient for the
protection of the rights of our citizens and capable of assuming full responsibility for
our acts in the conduct of relations with other States. * * * We possess, therefore, all the conditions requisite for existence as an independent state.
1Mr. TAWNEY. One moment; will you state what    ou lare reading
fromi
Mr. W;ILLIAMS. of Illinois. I am reading from the memorial which
he presented.
Mr. TAWNEY. Is it the original or the alleged translation?
Mr. WILLIAMS, of lllinois. It is the translation which he has coimpared himself; certainly not the original. It is the one which he himself compared with his interpreter. He says the ideas are correct, but
the exact language might not be. In substance, is that what you said
on those questions?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Exactly.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Do you believe the conditions which vou
described in that portion which I have read then existed; that is, with
reference to population, their capability for government, and the form
of government they then had?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because at that time they knew nothing
but the natural law. The subdivision of Saneva had not yet taken
place at that time; there had been no war of England against the
Boers as yet; the trouble with China had not begun. Then afterwards
I learned international law practically upon these matters, and with a
map of the world before me I could submit to your consideration my
studies on the subject of international law practically, and then 1
understood the natural law was not sufficient for independence.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. What do you mean by "natural
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Mr. BUENCATIINo. The right to protect one's self, the right to protect one's life and honor, one s family, one's people.
Mr'. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Do you mean by " natural law" the
natural rights of exerybodx to their independence?
L Mr. BUENCAM1INO.  es. sir; and the collective right of independence.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois At the time you wrote this did you
think you were stating the truth?
AMr. BUENCAMINO. Yes. sir; certainly; and from that point of view
I would still think so.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. That did not depend upon whether the
correspondence between Dewey and Aguinaldo and other American
officers had been correctly reported or not. did it?
Mr. BIUENCAMINO. No, sir' it did not depend upon that. That was
the social condition of the Philippines.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I)id you then believe that it was for the
best interests of your people to haive an independent government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. From the point of view of natural law, yes.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I will read this statement from your
memorial:
It is sometimes said that we are to blalme for the outbreak of hostilities during the
night of the 4th of February last, but this is not an established fact. In the first
place, because we, the Filipinos, were expecting at that very time (the beginning of
February) official recognition of our independence from the Government at Washington.
Were the Filipinos at that time expecting their independence to be
recognized as you have stated?
Mr. BUTENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because we knew at that time the treaty
of Paris was being passed upon in the United States.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Why were they preparing, as you claim,
to make an attack upon the Americans in the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In case their independence should not be recognized and they were deceived, then the attack would have been made.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Then you did not intend to make any
attack on the American forces unless the American Government refused
to recognize your independence?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; because a refusal would imply the breaking
of a promise as we considered it at that time.
Mi'. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Then, while they were making preparations for war it was not the intention of the Filipinos to commence
war until the American Government had in some way refused to recognize their independence?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Exactly.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. And they were preparing for war in the
event —
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They were making preparations rather to keep
the peace than to make war, under the principle that preparations for
war assure the peace.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Then you wish your statement to be
understood, when you state that they were preparing for war, that they
were really preparing to maintain the peace?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; if Admiral Dewey's alleged promises
were kept.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you say you are the founder of the
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I wish to say I am recognized as the
founder.
Mr. WIILIAMIS, of Illinois. Did vou consult with any American officers in the islands as to the advisability of forming such a party?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir' I consulted with General MacArthur.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did any of the American Commissioners
favor the organization of such a part?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. After we had become established we went and
visited the civil Commissioners.
Mr. WILLIAMIS, of Illinois. Were any American officers advised with
before the party was founded?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Only with General MNacArthur. THe was the
military governor at the time.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Had none of the American Conlmissioners been consulted with before the formlation of the Federal party?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. No, sir; not until after the formation on the 23d
of December.
Mr. WIILIAMIS, of Illinois. Did General MacArthur encourage the
formation of a Federal party'?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. Yes, sir; with regard to its first part.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Have the American Commissioners and
other American officers on the islands encouraged the growth of the
Federal party?'t
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With regard to its first part, which is to secure
peace.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. 1 said the growth of the party-that is,
the whole party.
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. Yes; on account of the question of peace.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Do the members of the Federal party
believe that the Filipinos will become American citizens and be
admitted as a State into the Union?
Mr. BUENcAM3INO. Not only do they believe it, but they wish it.
Mr. WILLIAMIS. of Illinois. Do vou believe that?
M:r. IUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because it is a natural sequence of
events.
Mr. WILLIAMIS, of Illinois. In building up the Federal party in the
Philippines you have tried to persuade the Filipinos that they would
be made American citizens and admitted into the Union as a State?
Mrl. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; I wish to extend my answer a little bit.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Very well.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because if they have been ordered to
recognize American sovereignty, as according to Article I of the Constitution all the powers of sovereignty proceed from the Constitution,
and as the Constitution says in an article that I can not exactly remember
those who are under the jurisdiction of that sovereignty are American
citizens, for that reason the Filipinos have believed that we are citizens
at the present time. although at first we would be a Territory and
then become a State.
Mr. WILLIANMS, of Illinois. Is it not on account of that belief and
their belief that they are to become citizens of the United States and
be admitted as a State into the Union that has caused the growth of
the party to be so rapid in the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That is the exact reason for the growth of the
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Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Is it not the desire of all nmenbers of the
Federal party that Congress will without any further delay define the
future status of the Filipino people?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No: the desire of the Filipino people is that the
question be carefully studied here; that we be heard in order to report
as to the provision for our future, but that in the meantime, as everything is in a state of ruin and destruction there at present on account
of the war, a provisional government is necessary under which all the
destroyed governmental organisms be built up as mlunicipalities, provinces, public buildings, good roads. bridges, and especially means of
communication, in order to encoulrage commerce, industry, and agriculture, and especially legislation providing for a currency system.
The greatest evil afflicting the Philippines at the Ilresent time is that
we have no mloney.
Sometimes the Mexican peso is worth 50 cents in gold, at other times
40 cents, then sometimes it drops to 30 cents, and as we are an exporting people we sell goods, and when we are paid the result is we are
always taken at a disadvantage, and while, as I have observed in
America, which is a producing and exporting country, at the same time
the Philippines is a producing country, its hemp, sugar, coffee, tobacco
is not consumed in the country, but it is consumed abroad, for which
our own money is necessary in order that defense may be made against
the usury of the consumers, who are generally foreigners.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. In the memorial of the Federal party
to Congress, in which interest you have appeared, do the members of
the Federal party not ask Congress to express the status of the
Filipinos
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. They do?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Then, was it their desire to have that
status expressed wheli they presented this memorial?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If the sovereign considered it the proper time,
yes.
Mr. WILLIAIMS, of Illinois. They did not put any conditions in their
memorial, did they?
Mr. BUENCAaMINO. They had put no conditions in there, as they
understood it to be a bilateral question, one giving and the other
receiving.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What did you mean when you stated a
while ago that one purpose in coming was to learn what their status
was, whether they were Filipinos or Americans?
Mr. BUENCAIINO. That the question of nationality should be well
defined, as it is the origin of many difficulties at the present time.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Do the Filipinos at this time desire to
know whether they are to be American citizens or Filipino citizens?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr1. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. They do?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Are not all the members of the Federal
party bitterly opposed to colonial government for the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Have you read the bill in the Senate and
in the House for a Philippine government?
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Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. As a lawyer, do you consider those bills as
colonial legislation when enacted?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If they were definite and permanent, yes.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. They are definite. You mean permanent?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. But I consider them as temporary measures.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Without any assurances in that legislation of anything further to be expected, would you consider it colonial
legislation?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Would you be in favor of it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Temnporarily, yes.
Mr. WILLIAMS. of Illinois. Without any promises?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. It would not be necessary to make any promises,
as when the census is taken then we can estab;lish in the Philippines a
condition of Territorial government or a State immediately if Congress
would thus desire.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. If it was the intention of the American
Congress to continue to hold the Philippine Islands and govern them
as a colony would you favor American sovereignty?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; not at all. I have already stated that in
such case I would not be responsible either for the present or for the
future.
Mr.. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You state in your memorial to Congress
of August, 1899, that about 9.000 Spaniards had been captured as
prisoners by the Filipinos, was that correct?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. More or less.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Do you believe the public lands in the
Philippine Islands-agricultural lands, I mean-should be held as
homesteads for the benefit of the Filipino people or granted in large
tracts to corporations?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Part of them; yes.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You are in favor of American corporations holding large tracts of Filipino land'
Mr. BUENCAMINO. As there are 50,000,000 acres of uncultivated
land, 25,000,000 could be given to American corporations in order
that capital may come into the country, and the remaining 25,000,000
acres could be reserved for Filipino inhabitants as well as Americans.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Do you state there are 50,000,000 acres
of good agricultural land
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; and better lands than those of Honolulu
or in the United States.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. And you are willing for half of this to be
given to American corporations for the development of the islands?
Mr. HAMILTON. Is there a proposition to give half to American
corporations?
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. No; he stated that in his answer. I am
examining him in reference to the Senate bill, which is likely to become
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The CHAIRMAN. Do you suppose it will be all American corporations? There is one Filipino corporation already applying.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. They will take in a few Filipinos. Well,
I will say "corporations," without using the word "American."
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; because most of those lands are uncultivated
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and inhabited, and which are enough to provide all the necessities,
luxuries, and commodities of the seven or eight millions of Filipino
inhabitants. Besides these lands, there are 50,000,000 acres which
are uninhabited and uncultivated, and half of these could be turned
over to corporations in order that capital may enter the country, and
the other 25,000,000 could be reserved for private individuals.
Mr. WIILLIAMS, of. Illinois. Are you willing for the American
Government to dispose of public lands and the franchises before any
representative government is established in the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; because I do not wish the same thing to -
happen as did under the Spaniards, who acted like a dog in the manger.
Mr. WTILLIAMS, of Illinois. What do you mean by that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That they did not want to give anything, and did
not want to do anything with it themselves.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. That is the Spanish?
Mr. BIUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You say you are willing for the American
Government to dispose of the lands and franchises?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes; because the idea over there is that it all
belongs at the present time to the American Government, as these
lafds were Crown lands under the Spanish rule.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You consider all of those lands as belonging to the American Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. To the sovereignty.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Rightfully belonging to the American
Government
Mr. BUENCAMINO. They belong to the American sovereignty. No
question has been raised in the Philippines on that subject.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Do you believe that could take place
before the United States Congress had fixed the political status of the
Filipinos, or settled whether or not they shall become American
citizens
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because what is necessary there is
economic life. There is no machinery, no animals, no money, consequently it is necessary to offer money and machinery, and to give those
public lands to secure these other advantages. The idea of Aguinaldo
was to obtain all of this money and machinery and cattle without giving anything in return, but that appears to me impracticable. In my
opinion something should be given in order to obtain something.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Suppose that the American Government
disposes of the public lands and franchises and then continues to govern the islands as colonies and refuses to admit them as a Territory or
State into the Union, would you feel that the right course had been
pursued?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not answer that question. I request that I
be excused because it appears to me to be impossible.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I put that question for the.purpose of
showing that it was for the benefit of the Filipinos not to dispose of
the public lands or these franchises until it had been determined
whether they were to be an independent country or a part of the
United States as colonies or as Territories and States.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I am not of your opinion.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. I know they believe they will be admitted
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. 1 can not agree to that. I would not agree to
that because that appears impossible to me; if it did occur then I would
express an opinion.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You want to wait until it happens?
Mr. BUECAMINO. Naturally, because I have such great faith in
American justice that it appears to me a loss of tinle to discuss future
injustices.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Have you recei;ed any assurances or
encouragement or any reason to hope from American officers in the
islands that the Filipinos would ever be treated as citizens of the
United States, or be admitted 'as a Territory or State into the Union?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Many have led me to believe
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. (ive me the names of any of theml
Mr. BUENCAMIN:O. I can not think of anyone just now. I know
more than 200 I)emocrats, especially niilitary men, and I can think of
several on the trip over who infolrmed me that the Democratic party
would disappear in the United States before it would allow any injustice to be committed in the Philippines.
Mr. JOANNINI (interpreter). He means that the Demnocratic party
would sooner see itself disappear from the United States than permit
any injustice to be done.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. That does not answer the question.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Has any American officer, civil or
military, stationed in the Philippine Islands ever held out to you or to
membeirs of the Federal party a hope that the American people would
ever consent that the Filipinos should become American citizens, or
that the Philippines should be admitted either as at Territory or as a
State?
IMr1. BUENCAMINO. That is the general statement which is being
made by Americans over there, that the Philippines would be admitted
as a Territory, and the Americans there demand that also.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Now, 1 would like for you to state
whether General MacArthur has ever held out any hope of that sort?
Mr. BUENCAMIINO. Officially, no, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Privately or officially?
Mr. I3UENCAMINO. In his heart General MacArthur is a man who
loves the Filipinos more than any other officer there.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. That is not the question.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. But 1 never spoke with General MacArthur on
the subject. I am speaking of other American officers-captains,
lieutenants, etc.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Has Mr. Wright, of the Commission,
ever held out any hope of that sort to you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Officially or privately?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. None of the officials, the American officials there
holding high positions, have made any statements on the subject. They
know how to comply with their duties.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Then these assurances came generally
from the sous officiers?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. When I speak of officials in Spanish we consider
always the petty officials as officials, clerks, etc.; when we speak of
high employees we say "high employees" or "high authorities" in
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Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. But you do state that a great many American officersMr. BUENCAMINO. In the sense you refer to petty.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Have held out the hope and encouraged
you that the Filipinos would become American citizens and be admitted
into the Union?
MrI. BUENCAMINO. Yes. sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS. of Illiniois. Upon what do you base your belief that
they are going to be admitted?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Because the Constitution speaks only of States
and Territories and never speaks of colonies, and, furthermlore, makingo use of the right of petition mentioned in the Constitution, wev
would request not to be colonies any longer because we fear very much
a condition of affairs similar to that under Spain, where we would
depend upon the opinion of men and not on the people of the United
States, and we wish to belon.g to the people of the United States.
Mr. W ILLIAAMS, OfTiiTis. In,11our judgment what would be the
result if the United States should undertake to govern the Philippine
Islands outside of the limits of the Constitution as colonies?
1Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not state the result, but I would not like it
for mny part.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Would they submit to it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO.,1 for mI\yself, speakingl frankly, would not submit
to it.
Mr. WILLIAMIS, of Illinois. What is the view of the Federal party on
that
Mr1. BUENCAMINO. It is the sanme feeling.
1Mr. WA1LIAMS, of Illinois. Did you go around with the Coimmission
to any of the proceedinos '
Mr1:. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; I um not in the confidence of the Commission, because 1 did not agree witl many of their ideas.
Mr. WILLIAMIS, Of Illinois. HIave you and others held public meetings
and made public speecles to increase the strength of the Federal party
in the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMI-NO. Every Sunday I myself made speeches and held
meetings.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Have you held out to the people the idea
that they are going to be made American citizens?
Mr. BUENCAMNINO. I did not lead them to hope anything, but the
people are all expecting it.
1Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What did you tell them will be their future
fate after laying down their arms?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. That they would be American citizens.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Miississippi. One question I want to ask. What
is your opinion as to the advisability of the admission or the exclusion
of the Chinese in the Philippine Islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have a good deal to say on that question.
MI. WILLIAMS, Of Mississippi. Say a little of it in answer to the
question.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I could not do that, because it is a very difficult
question to arrange in the Philippines.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. All I want is your opinion as to
whether they should be excluded or admitted —whether it is good for
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. I have stated that there are 50,000,000 of acres
of land uncultivated and uninhabited, so that the necessity of immigration is evident. Can we send white Americans there? If we can not
do so, we must send Chinese.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. So you think the Chinese ought to
be admitted?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; because they would be better than
nothing if the white Americans could not be sent.
Mr. WXILLIAMS, of Mississippi. If the Filipinos are to become American citizens by the fact of their laying down their arms and submitting
to American sovereignty, would not the Chinese admitted into the
Philippines become American citizens too?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If they are expressly made American citizens
they would be.
Mr. WILLTAMS, of Mississippi. If the Filipinos are made American
citizens not by express act of Congress, as I understand you to contend,
but bv the fact of laying down their arms and submitting to American
sovereignty, then would not the Chinese, who had in the meantime
been admitted to the archipelago, become by the mere fact of a residency on American soil American citizens?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not understand your question as to becoming American citizens by laying down their arms and accepting American sovereignty. It is my opinion they can not be American citizens
except by a special act of Congress.
Mr. WILnIAMS, of Mississippi. I understood you to say a moment
ago that the Filipino people expected, and you among others had
taught them to expect, that their fate upon laying down their arms
and makiing peace would be American citizenship?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If Congress passes an act declaring them
American citizens, but not by the mere act of laying down their arms.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Now, a moment ago in answer to the
question upon what you based your hope that the Filipinos would be
permitted to become American citizens and that the Philippine Archipelago would be treated as a Territory or State, you answered that it
was because of the Constitution of the United States which made provision only for Territories and States and not for colonies. I understood you to say you based your hope upon that constitutional ground.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Now, I understand you to say you
base your hope upon the possibility or probability of the passage of
an act of Congress; now which one is it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I logically understand there will be a declaration
that the Philippines are a Territory.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. In other words. you think the American Congress will obey the American Constitution as you understand it?
Mr. BUENCAMINo. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Now, that is the basis of your hope?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Suppose the Supreme Court of the
United States and the Congress of the United States were to take a
different view of the construction of the Constitution from yourself;
were to decide, in substance, that the United States had the right to
hold subject to its sovereignty populations not citizens and territories
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you or any of the balance of the Federal party be in favor of submitting to American authority?
Mr. BUENCAnMINO. No, for myself; no. In that case I would remain
in the United States.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. That is, as far as you are personally
concerned?
Mr. BUENCAIMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. JONES. Mr. Chairman, that is all we desire to ask the witness.
The CHAIRMAN. Why would you not return to the Philippines; why
would you not continue to live in the Philippines?
M4r. BUENCAMINO. I would be in a better condition here than over
there. I would have here a Congress as this, so wise and just and so
careful of its citizens, and there we would be nothing but subject to a
few authorities who would be sent there by the Government, and we
do not want to pass again through a sad experience similar to the
Spanish system.
The CHAIRMAN. So you are fearful if the United States were to have
a colonial system that the methods would be those of the Spanish
Governnent?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I can not foresee what would happen, but I believe
that a people are not governed by men but by law, and a colonial system is a government of men, and a constitutional system is a government of law. If men were always angels, or were all Washingtons,
then I would not make any difference between man and the law, but
in each generation the race becomes better or worse. Spain arrived
in the Philippines a very generous nation and a real Christian nation,
and was very careful of the regeneration of the Philippine people.
There are the old colleges founded by the first Spaniards who landed
there, such as the college of Santo Tomas and the other colleges which
were cited in a previous hearing. All those colleges were founded by
the first Spaniards. Then Spain was in a similiar position to the -
Americans at the present time. The sun did not set on its territory.
It was a very large nation; but it degenerated little by little and the
poor colonies paid for it, thirty years of loss of human life in Cuba
and five years the same thing in the Philippines which they exchanged
for the $20,000,000 received, and I would not like either for the Philippines or for America that this sad lesson in history should be repeated.
The CHAIRMAN. You do not think that the Filipinos, at the present
time, are capable of electing a legislature, an upper body and a lower
body. and governing themselves, do you?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. This bill reported by the House committee provides
for a legislature, the lower house of which is to be elected by the people. Do you not think that is as far in that direction as we ought to
go by legislation at this time?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. If you will permit me to answer the previous
question-that is, the question asked whether the Philippine people
are capable of electing a high and low chamber and governing themselves-I wish to state that if the Philippine people are to govern
themselves by American methods, which are the methods of civilization, as I have practically seen, they are not capable of electing a
legislature of the higher and lower houses. Consequently we must
meet and vote to elect the lower chamber, and the high chamber
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shall select persons of high intelligence to guide the lower chamber
of the Philippines according to methods of American civilization.
In only that way can I believe that there will be a good government
in the Philippines, which, little by little, will make Amerioans of the
Filipinos; but if at the present time the Filipinos elect both chambers,
it is possible that they will all be Filipinos, and then, as we know
nothing but what was taught us by the Spanish, we can do nothing
but work to our own disgrace, as I have pra ctically seen was the case
with our own Filipino government of Malolos and TaIrlac. For this
reason I come to testify before this committee, to insist upon American control, for I desire that the appointment of American authorities
to be sent there be made by Congress. The modes of procedure, as I
have read and as I see in practice n6w, are so wise, so just, that it is
very difficult for a mistake to be made, and those appointments of
Americans for the Philippines would always be given to competent
persons.
The CHAIRMAN. You say that your experience in the Malolos government taught you that the Filipinos are incapable of self-government?
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. He said incapable of self-government
upon the American idea.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir; upon the American plan. Please state
why you state they are incompetent of self-government on the American plan.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I will cite three cases of the Philippine government. We had to appoint a minister of the treasury, because we had
to have treasuries, and Emilio Aguinaldo appointed General Trias,
who knew nothing about managing public funds, and he resigned.
Thereupon Aguinaldo looked for a Filipino financier, but nobody
knew anything relating to finance, because we never had an opportunity to deal in such matters. What did Emnilio Aguinaldo do?
Then he appointed commissioners to request donations from the rich
in the provinces, and the result was the following: Those commissioners
have assuredly collected more than $50,000,000, but for the Philippine
treasury I can say that it received nothing but $7,000,(00). What was
the cause of this? The lack of economical capacity and the absence of
an economist or financier.
The second instance is this: We required a minister of public works,
who had to take charge of all the works relating to public buildings,
bridges, roads, etc., and all the railroads. Emilio Aguinaldo appointed
another general, also a relative of his, from Cavite, General Mascardo.
This gentleman was very honorable,as was General Trias, and he resigned
because he knew nothing of public works and bridges. Then Emilio
Aguinaldo vested the powers of directing the public works in all the
municipal presidents and all the provincial governors.  What did
these gentlemen do? They appropriated to themselves all the public
materials and built their own houses and huts, and never used any of
this material for the public interests.
Another case can be cited. Engineers were to be established for
the regiments, for the purpose of building trenches, bridges, etc., and
as there were no engineers, jewelers were appointed, and the result
was that our trenches were so weak that they could have been kicked
down by the American soldiers; cannons were not necessary. These
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The following is the case with the present Governor Taft: Among
the provincial employees there is one called the supervisor, who is the
engineer of the province, and there are more than 18 vacancies
because there are no engineers; no Filipinos, and Americans do not
want to go there because the salaries are so low. So these provinces
at the present time are without preparatory work, such as the making
of plans, etc., and consequently this greatly delays the reconstruction
of bridges, roads, and public works.
That is the situation in the Philippines. When in a congress composed chiefly of Filipinos a question relating to finance should be
brought up, or a question of public works, or a question relating to
engineering none of us can make a report on it, and we can not legislate properly. Therefore, the necessity of American control, as is
Ipractically the case in the question of education, when the Philippine
government had notling but Filipino teachers. Now we have both Filipino and AmLerican, teachers. It is natural that the Philippine te:tchers
are learnLing gradually froml the American teachers, because Superintendent Atkinson is a great man and he makes the Philippine teachers
remain one or two months in an American school in Manila b)efore
taking charge of their positions in the various towns. That is what I
call American civilization, properly initiated and developed; not suddenly, because it is impossible that anything important should be
evolved in the world suddenly. The law of birth and of development
is a necessary law. Nobody can escape such a law, and my people
now are in the position of a man who has just colne out of Spanish
ignorance and enters into American civilization without any preparation. That is the case with me in the hotel where I live. 1 have
been there eight days. I can not find my own room yet, because the
place has so many doors and entrances and so many conveniences that
it has dazed Ime. That is the case with me.
The CHAIRMAN. The defects you describe are defects in the government which Aguinaldo himself established in Malolos?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; but Aguinaldo was not responsible for
this. lie had no other opportunity.
The CHAIRMAN. He had no other people from whom to select
officials?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. So I understand you to say that among other reasons why the Filipinos to-day are incapable of governing themselves
is the fact that they have no people there-no Filipinos-who have had
experience in conducting financial matters of a national character;
that they have no civil engineers; that thev have no one capable of
superintending a system of public instruction, and that they have no
one capable of administering the affairs of the interior, as we would
call it here, on a broad scale'
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I again wish to impress upon the committee, although it is repeating, the necessity of Congress fixing an
allowance of $100,000 every year to bring Filipinos over here in order
to study the American methods.
The CHAIRMAN.. Permit me to say that Governor Taft, in conversation with me and with various members of the committee, said that
he was strongly in favor of some provision of law whereby Filipinos
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and methods, and that the bill which the House committee has reported,
if enacted into law, will permit the Philippine government to make
provision out of its own revenues for the sending over of Filipinos to
take those studies.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; if I could take that back to my people
as a special provision of Congress, the sentiment of my country toward
the sovereign would be much better established.
The CHAIRMAN. Permit me to say that there will be a Philippine
bill enacted into law at this session of Congress, and Governor Taft,
who will be at the head of the government, I know and the committee
know, is in favor of making provision for the sending of Filipinos
over here to study our institutions. Now, you have revenue enough.
When the Commission reported last September you had more than
$5,000,000 of gold in your treasury after very large appropriations
for public improvements and $2,000,000 for a harbor. You have, I
see by a report recently, $8,000,000 in the treasury. So, then, if the
law will permit your government to make that provision, and you
have officials in favor of making that provision and you have revenue
enough to make the expenditure, there is no reason why you can not
send the students over here. You can pass the law in the Philippines.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I had understood that it would have to be a
special law. I did not understand it as I understand it now.
TheCHAIRMAN. Under the general grant of legislative power in
this bill to the Philippine government, the Philippine government
can itself make provision.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I am very glad to hear that.
The CHAIRMAN. I understand you to say that your educational
system under the government of the Taft Commission has proven a
success?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And that the provincial and municipal governments
are proving a success
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. In each of those governments there are officials
that are Americans, civil engineers and others, from whom the Filipinos
are receiving instruction in the necessary principles of government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Your idea is that the happiness of the Philippine
people depends upon their continued education in this direction under
the supervision of the American Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The Philippine people are growing more contented,
are they, because of the removal of the taxes from the poor?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. What is your understanding to-day as to the number of insurgents now in the field, or who were in the field when you
left the islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. When I left the islands there were about 300 or
400 insurgents in Samar under the command of General Zamora, who
is the leader in Samar-that is, looked upon as a leader, but who is
insignificant. But when I arrived here I learned that Zamora had
already surrendered with his 400 rifles, so that I can assure you that the
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received from the Federal party on the llt-ocock, which left the Philippine Islands eight or tel days after I did.
The CHAIRMAN. Will you please read the letter and Mr. Joannini
will translate it?
Mr. BUENCAMINO (reading). "Matters are coming to a headThe CHAIRMAN. What is the date of that letter?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. April 18, 1902.
The (CIHAIIRMAN. Who is it frolm?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Dr. Jose Alver, the president of the Federal
party.
Mr. OLMSTED. To whom is it addressed?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Mr. Felipe Buencamino.
MrI. XVILLIAMS, of Illinois. When was it received?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. In Washington, on May 30, at 2 o'clock p. m.
[Reading]:
Matters are coming to a head. It Is very probable that a new commission will go
over to investigate the new Filipino problem, without ignoring the cruelties committed
by the military, as the report of the torture of the "water cure" has produced in
America profound sensation. Malvar has surrendered two days ago, and he promises
not to leave one rifle. The surrender of Talnora has been postponed to the 20th
instant on account of the heavy storms which have taken place in that province.
The war is thus at an end, so that 1 have this day sent to Governor Taft the following telegram:
"Now the war is finished. Full amnesty."
The visit of Commissioner Wright to Tayabas has been a very cordial one, and he
has brought the best impressions from the province.
Mr. JONES. What position does that gentleman hold under the United
States Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. None at all.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Mississippi. Is a name signed to that letter?
Mr. BUENCA-MINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. So, as I understand you to say, except for a little
hostility in the island of Samar the insurrection is ended?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; that is my opinion.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the condition throughout the island of
Luzon so far as the people being interested in their municipal and
provisional governments is concerned, and the general feeling of content; is that growing?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. The conditions are very satisfactory and the
people are highly contented. The only thing is the lack of cattle and
machinery.
The CHAIRMAN. Does the rinderpest prevail?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir. I have been charged to examine the
American system of cultivation of agriculture and see if it can be
practically applied in the Philippines. For that reason I visited, also,
in Honolulu sugar plantations in order to study the manner of working the land.
The CHAIRMAN. Did the Spanish Government ever take any pains
to teach the Filipinos scientific agriculture?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Did they ever take any pains to teach the Filipinos
anything to enable them to govern themselves?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; nothing.
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Mr. BUENCAMINO. No. sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Did they not call them " Indians??"
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. The Filipinos, then, no matter how well educated,
or of how high character, were the victims of a system of caste, were
they not?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Rizal himself was called an " Indian?"
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, siI'.
The CHAIRMAN. Although he took all the prizes at the Jesuit college
in Manila, he was called an "Indian" and made to feel the shame which
comes from that epithet in those islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. So, as a matter of fact, under the Spanish administration and Spanish law the Filipinos were practically deprived of all
opportunity to become good citizens?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. That is one reason why they can not'govern themselves to-day if left alone?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. If the United States Government should withdraw
from the islands to-day, whlat do you think of the probabhility of foreign
interference-the seizure and partition of the islands by other powers?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. On accountof the foreign interests in the country —
ther'e is an English railroad; there are 20 English firms, the capital of
each is at least $1,000,000; there are 2 English banks, each having a
capital of $10,00(,00(); there are three, four. or five life or tire insurance companies, also English. and a New York firm has lately established a branch; but the greater portion of the comnmercial element is
formed by the German merchants. There are more than 300 German
firms distributed throughout the entire country, dealing in the richest
products, which are coffee and sugar, down to shoes and hats.
The French control the high commerce by means of the commercial
company called the General Tobacco Company. Being secretary of
state of the Philippine government, I received a recommendation fronm
Manila to favor this tobacco company in the province of Cayagan, saying that the minister of France was a shareholder in this company.
This company controls the entire output of the provinces of Tavabas,
Leyte, Bohol, Cebu, and Pinas. It deals also in sugar, in coffee, in
hemp, and in copra, and sustains an interisland line of steamers
between the islands and a trans-Atlantic line which goes as far as New
York. These foreign interests established there for a long time, to
which we must add the Spanish interests, or the Spanish firms which
have remained in the islands, and which are now foreign in the Philippines, would cause us many difficulties if we were alone. There has
been a recent case. Two Filipinos had a fight in the theater of Cebu.
One Filipino was a partisan of America and the other of the Spanish
cause, being the son of Spanish parents.
The Spanish consul in Cebu, forgetting that both were Filipinos,
interfered in the question and desired to protect the latter, believing
he was a Spaniard, and prevent the police from imprisoning him, as
they did the other, and he struck the Philippine policeman. Then all
the policemen gathered and beat the Spanish consul. Had we been
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lowing day a Spanish man-of-war would have been in the bay of Manila
demanding an indemnity in the sum of $5,000,000, and if they did not
get it they would have taken possession of Cebu and hanged all the
police there, but as we have an American Government so strong, notwithstanding the acts of the Spaniards, notwithstanding the fact that
the Spanish consul who was in Manila had gone to investigate the case,
there was no question or disorder. The case was investigated, and the
truth was discovered, that the Spanish consul of Cebu attempted to
protect one Filipino against another Filipino, believing he was a
Spaniard. Finding that he was in error, nothing happened, and'the
Spanish Government relieved its consul on account of his error, but
had we been alone assuredly such would not have been the case. and
we would be now either in war with Spain or Spain would have received
one or two million dollars for the blow given to the consul. There is
a practical case.
The CHAIRMAN. How near is'the nearest foreign possession to the
islands?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Formosa.
The CHAIRMAN. How ftar is that?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. About forty-eight hoors distance.
The CHAIRMAN. That is owned by whom?
Mr1. BUENCAMINO.,Jap)an.
The CHAIRMAN. Name the other foreign possessions near the Philippines?
Mr/. BUENCAMINO. Hongkong, England; Singapore. also belonging
to England; Australia; the Carolines, belonging to Germany; then
China, the ports of China; then Port Arthur, which it appears will
soon be in the possession of the Russians. That is a point at the
greatest distance from the Philippines, but that is only twelve days off.
The CCAIRMAN. What is the nearest French territory?'
Mri. IBUENCAMINO. Shanghai.
Mr. HAMILTON. What is the membership of the Federal party?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. All the members?
Mr. HAMILTON.  How many, about?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There are 236 lodges according to the last census
taken of it. That was in September of last year. But as we have
won the municipal and provincial elections recently held I believe that
these lodges must amount to about 300. Each lodge may be said to
vt;  contain about 1,000 members. That is to say all the intelligent men,
because, as I have already said, these intelligent men have 10(0, 200,
or 300 fanatics with them.
Mr. HAMILTON. Has the Federal party members in every organized
province in the islands now?
Mr. BUENCAIINO. Yes, sir; except in Jolo and in the non-Christian
portions of the islands.
Mr. HAMILTON. As I understand, the Federal party is opposed to
independence at this time; is that true?
Mr. BUENCA-MINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. HAMILTON. Is it not true that the chief justice and Justice
Torres and other leading Filipinos cooperating with Americans and
who have been prominent in building up the Federal party are opposed
to statehood, but desire independence some time in the future when
the Philippine Islands are ready for it?
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Mr. HAMILTON. Yes, sir.
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir; they are not opposed to that, but they
would rather have an autonomous form of government like Australia
or Canada. I can describe the situation to you if you desire to hear it.
Mr. HA^MILTON. 1 understand that the nien I have named were
opposed to statehood and preferred independence sometimle in the
future, and that they had worked with the Federal party mainly for
peace?
Mr. B3UENCAMINO. Exactly.
Mr. HAMILTON. That is a fact?
Mr. BUEXCAAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. HAMILTON. Just one other question. rhe peace of Biacnabato of December 14, 1897, it is said that by the terms of that peace
the Spanish (Government was to pay through one A. Paternel to the
insurgents the sum of $1,000,000. and to the families of those who had
suffered from war, though not engaged therein, the sum of $700,000.
Is that true; and if so, to what extent was this part of the promise
carried out?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. With your permission 1 will decline to answer
that question, because that is one of the secrets of Emilio Aguinaldo.;
I believe that in the entire history of the Philippines that is something similar to the promise of Admiral Dewey. The only thing that
I have been told by Aguinaldo is that he received $400,000 from the
Spanish.
Mr. HAMIILTON. As a result of that peace?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr. HAMILTON. What, if any, title was there to mine under the
Spanish Government?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Concessions were given.
Mr. HAMrLTON. There was no absolute ownership?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. HAMILTON. The concession simply provided that mines might
be worked?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. There was a temporary concession of fifty or
sixty or ninety-nine years.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinlois. How long did you serve as interpreter
for General MacArthur?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. From October 15, 1900, to May 31, 1901.
Mr. WILLIAIS, of Illinois. What business were you engaged in
when first appointed interpreter to General MacArthur?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. I was engaged in the practice of law and was a
law professor.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. Did you give up those occupations when
you accepted the position of interpreter'?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. What portion of your time was given to
General MacArthur?
Mr. B1UENCAMINO. About an hour a day. I did not go to his office,
but remained at my own office. Four Tagalog newspapers were sent
to my office and I translated them. I received $75 for this work, most
of which was paid to my clerk for his services.
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Mlr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir.
Mr'. WIL~LIATNIS, of Illinois. You do?
Mr. BUTENCAMINO. Yes, sir-. It is a firm. composed of four attorneys.
Mr'. WILLIAMS`, of Illinois. tDo you still engage in the practice of
law?I
Ml'. I3UENCA-MiNo. As counsel for the younger members.
Mr'. WILLIAMuS Of Illinois. Do you still sh-are in the proceeds of the
office?
Mr. BUENCAM~IN0. Yes. Sir.
Mr'. WTILLIAMS. Of Illinois. Then yout have not abandoned all your
income f rom. law
Mr1. BUENCAMINO. No, sir.
Mr". WILLIAMS, Of Illinois. Do you hold any other position?
Mr. BUENCAA11N0. Tihat is all.
Mr. WILLIANIs, of Illinois. Are. vou still a professor of law?
Mr. IBUENCAMIN0. NO, sir;  am not a professor at a university, but
I. teach law in myv office.
Mr. WILTAMIS, Of l~lino0iS. Do you receive any income, from that,source
Mr. BUENCAMINo. No, sir.
Mr. WILLIAMNS, of Illinois. You are a partner and you keep a law
office in Manila at this time,
Mr. BUENCAMIiNo. Ye~s. sir.
Mr. WILLIAMS, of Illinois. You are, a memiber of time civil-service
board?
Mr'. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir'.
Mr  'Iisi 1 would like-, to ask a question or two, not having
any direct reftdrence to what has been uinder discussion to-day. You
testified that Aguiinaldo with a force of 4.0O  me  went in search of
Greneral Luna and called at his place of residence, and that while Aguinaldo was there General Luna, with only 5() mounted men as Fan escort,
(called at the residence of Aguinaldo and was received with such a welcome that~lmis, body, was found with:36 1)010 wounds and pierced by
more' than 4() bullets. I wvould like to ask if y:ou know thle Occasion of
or reaston for Gvenertal Lunma's visit to Gleneral Agruinaildo's residence at
that tine,?
Mr. BUENCIAMINO. As I1 said before, it is a mystery. I do not know.
It is not known why this visit was made.
Mr'. OLMASTFAv. io you know whether he was invited or directed to
call there'?
Mr'. BU~NCAMIuN0. That is a. question of dispute. Luna's partisans
say, that Luna received a telegrain from Aviuinaldo, and Agruinaldo's
partisans say that he sent no such telegramn, because Aguinaldo was in
search of Lu'na. 1 have, personally attempted to find in our telegrams
the ribbons, of that day and of the previous day, lbut it has been imlpossible to find anything of them. General IBell, who covered all the
parts where, Lun~ia and Agruina-ldo were in the north, also desired to
study that question, and hie took all the teleg'ramns and ribbons which
he could find abandoned by the Filipinos in their flight. He says that
he did not find anythincr which would throw any light on the subject,
in order to discover how that coincidence, took place, of Aguinaldo
being at Luna's house, while Luna was being killed in the lower part,of Aguinaldo's houe  5ml~fo      ach other.
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Mr. OLMSTED. Is it not apparent from the fact that he was accompanied only by his staff, that General Luna's visit to Aguinaldo's
house was not hostile?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Yes, sir; it appears to be.
Mr. OLMSTED. Has any explanation been given of the fact that he
did meet his death in Aguinaldo's house?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nothing at all.
Mr. OLMSTED. Has any attempt been made to learn of the reason
of his being put to death?
Mr. BUENCAMINO. Nothing to my knowledge. I do not know if
Aguinaldo made any investigation, but at that time there was such
secrecy that none of us could speak a word about it, fearing that we
would suffer the same fate, and for that reason the Philippine inurrection morally died; there was no more confidence in anyblody.
The CHAIRMAN. I think that is all. We are very greatly oblliged to
you, Mr.' Buencamino.
Thereupon (at 4.50 o'clock p. m.) the committee adjourned.


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