AN fi-RE ‘ MONSTRANCE, . THE L AT E HVMBLE REMON— STRANGE TO THE. HIGH COVRT 01:. PARLIAMENT,- The {ecbnd Edition, enlarged. . $3$$$¥$$$$$¥ -, $3¥g$$33$$ I%%%%%%%%% zzzezz . M- . . Trinted «Juno 1 6 4.1.. at aaaaaamwaaaaaaa- %%\%X%§KW # was/aet‘aaexfifi AN TI»RE_MO 1V, STRANGE To THE LATE HVMBLEREMONSTRANCE . - to the High Court of ' Parliament. . ‘Hefe few Leaves of Paper breake . monfirance, with leiTe noyie, be- caufe of leli‘e bulke; and not fiufl‘ed * fpeech, but prefented to your view with more fubftance then Rethorique, and with more things then words, and fuch as I hope will plucke off the ‘ vizard of dutifull Sonne from the Authour of the Remonftrance, or make his MOtherlittle behoL ding to him for his advife. Yee are not ignorant of the great diflraétions,oppofitiofis, and of the di verfity ofaffeétions and feares of the peOple of the whole land about the event of the Churches reformation 1n hand. for indeede fome out of a zeale,fomewhat inconfiderate doe cry downe E- pifcopacy as Antichriflian. Others very mo- ~with the huskes of a bare pleafing on through, after the humble re- ‘ derate crave and wifh earneftly, Epifeopacy were , ‘ B3 -)1 mhr . (2 ). ' , . ‘ retormecf'an‘cfpursed~ from‘the Romfifih and? ”FY-4 raninicall; goVernement’ that incumbersi it ', and thich‘fince the hit reformation in King Edmard the HXth drayes,no free Parliament yet-Was fohapr - py as to redreffe: quinc, a [11de kinda-OE men carried by acontrarywinde, maintaine Epifco- "p‘acy to bee by Divine right, not fo much as na- ming that apple of difcord, ‘nor mentioning e the maine thing which is fo much flood'upom which is not that EpifcoPacie is. either of Divine right or nogfor if. (as the Author of the lemon- {trance acknowledgeth,) a Church» may fland without Epifc0pacie, it matters not much,which of thefe two opinions is held: but the maine point debated lyes in this afl'ertion, that Epzfl’oa pallgowrmmt,“ it i: e/Zaéli/bed in-Englamji: mo]? dzfigreeable to Cbrz'flizmd the t/Ipofile: inflation, and to the rite: and conflitutz'om of we: primz‘». rive Cbarcb, and make: a part oftbe myflerie qf iniquitiembicly the Roman 6'61:er for may hundred ' yum in England lmtb had’tbe greatejlfia’re in. Likewife the favoUrers of the humbles-remont {trance trad‘uce as libellers the oppofers' Of that tenet of Epipracieby Divine-right, and of the corruptions that attend Epifcopacie, as it iseftia~ bliflued in England. .Thcfe difiraétions’and-OP- pofitions being fuch; may it pieaFe-the Homo. table Court ferioufly to ponder that thereis as great a latitude between having no Bifhops at all,- and having them with the tendred limitations by thofc they call iibellers 5 as there is betWeene~re. rainingalimited'power in Bithps, anchnfir. ' .. ming a *3) ming the Bifh'ops in the exorbitant authority and ' greatnefle ofGoVernm-ent as it is et'tabiifhed in Wired which Governement. God. forbid it Were retained,being as it is conceived by the moi’c learned, pious, and judicious of the land mofl: Antiehriftian, and attended with more evill then the quite abolifhing of Epifcopacie can prove hurt-firm and of dangerous-confequence; and that for thefe .rea-{onS' and grounds follow mfg. , ' - i. EpiicoPali vaerment' as it is eflabliflie‘d in England, is a ‘c'ontinuatiOn ofthe height of pow- er and jurifd-ifiion , which in the darkeft times of P'operythePope hath ufurped by hisBifh‘ops and ,4 Abbots - farre beyond the footing, he ever tooke in France, Spain:, or Germany. Therefore what the Authour of the Ireméftrance alleadge'th .of the ancientneffe of Epifcopacie,and of its crin- tinuance hitherto rsoo. yeares is vaine and fri- valons a,“ for the Roman Church upon the fame ground or pleading of antitiquitie makes her he- reiies and abominations warantable. - II. The Biihops infiitution and inthronifing is altogether repugnant and contrary to the Iawes and cuflomesof the Primitive Church, and a- gainfi the confiitutions of the Prime Chrifli. an Emperours, who ordained that the peepie ' joyntly with the inferiour Cleargte fhouid pre- fent to the Emperour a catalogue of the moft pi- . ous and learned men of the Diocefl‘e, and the a man ( 4) . a man that the Emperour was to pitch Upon, be invefl'edtwith, the. function of a Bifhop; for. proofe thereof reade’ the conflit’utions of Chm: ‘ the great; Lewis the godly,Gregary theggeatfiela- fies-and Others. .. ' A l-lI.The height and fuPeriority of place that . Bifhops hold, is one of the greatcfl reliques of the POpifh tyranny in England, which is m0ft ' unfit in Miniitersof the Gofpel, repugnant to the cuftomes of other Nations, & to the diftance, yea Father neareneil e ofO ffice anddignity ,that ought toibe betweene Bifhops and Minifiers. Itis not ‘ heard bu: in England that Chancellors or Lord Keepers take place after Arch-Bifhops, while 0- .xther Miniflers are "[0 fine inferiour and diflant from them, as a Prince froma pooret‘enant or a high {umpt’uous palace from a poore thatc ht cot- tage. ’ a ' 4 111.1. The BifllOps {ole exercife of Iurifdiéti- on is fuch, as the like was never heard in any Court of jufiice, and is repugnant. to reafon and naturall equity, and cannor bee but an appendice derived from. the fonneof pcrdition, that arm- , gates to hi-mfelfe an unerring folepower: The Kings Bench,Common-pleas,8c Exchequer, are benches of a certaine number of Iudges, The Chancellor of England hath an ailifiance of 12. Mailers. I would faine know when Chriit {aid— die Etalqie, if he underfloothhat a Bilhop {hould , beafole ludge within his Diocelfe in deciding any litigious caufe. V. Alfo . (5) V!" Alfqtheéexcrcifingofany-Iuriftrinionz-by deputies,7which is’thei prerogative ofKinggis ta monflrous ufurpatiOn in the Biflmps of England; a} firange ' bit-d hatch? in no court bur theirs, every. .judge in any other Court difcharging his ~ judiciall fun’tlion in his OWn perfon. ’ I‘is no mgr. veil. if‘they that Preach by deputies. obferve the likeptaé‘tii‘e injkeeping of Courts. ,, ' t 7.. ‘- —VI. The Biihops jurisdiétion entrenching up- onthe civill Magiflrate or Iudge by their jar Pm- nficiam or Canon law,which the Pope left them for-o legaciefueh are the caufes'teflamentary and matrimonial] , is an ufurpationjnoleffe bad then the former, and derogates from the holy power of Ecclefiaflicallikeyes, which Bifhops aifumed. .in the primepure timesof the Church. ‘ VII, .It were not fomuflc’h to 'UfilfPCi i‘urii‘diétit- on, if their lawes were but-found; and their legall proceeding juft :\ But their High Commiflion, the oathiex officio, the horrible abufe of excom: , munication,the commutations of bod iiy penance into pecunigzryfiheir hiinderance s. ofproh ibitions, .flfopp‘iggth‘e courfe of. 13w, their determiningof tithes & poireffions oflivings‘by a_ flueimpédfi, are as‘many :pockie eye-fores, which deface the hoiy:calling Of Biihops, and make them, though their Erik inflitution hadbeeneof Divine right,.to be now lefl'e then of humane inflitution. ., e' ’ .1 VIII. TheirnOt depending on any free Etcie'. fifiicail aiTembly is as much or more then .211: Papifls a'icribe to the POpe,who by many ofthetn is t1‘20ughtinferiourto the councell 8t cenfurable ' by it. B IX. Their , . . j 1(6) , - ‘ ‘ ‘IX. Their-Via rations are with and} counter-Fer imitatiahsbf theanCi'ént‘Synod's5WhiCh are-dege- ' he‘tfitefd‘ihtb' recei’ts’ of Cufiomc ,-' “as-7 paying 5 for Licences ,‘Produrat'i‘o‘ns,Benevolences, Synodalls, andrhé like, Niki! e/i quad writ: Epifc‘opémmmn véaddtgétc. ' - -‘ f ~' ’4- ~ ; Xi "Their“Cofiv’océ‘tiOnS or- SYno'ds are little . better}; where deputati firm depatezrfe}; the‘='de_pu-- ‘ tier; are: de‘pfiring 5' where in mdft'of the mem- be’ts’ (mt,- there is nofrec cho‘jfe o‘feleéfio‘n 5ibut BifhoPs, Deancs‘, and Archdeacons‘jhave right to‘ilit by their place and Officer'wlherc thofé of the‘lo‘WEr'HouE are like ['0 manic fioekes, that have no motion, but as they are carried by the members of thefpherc ofrhe higher houfe. Who ever {hall reade Matthew Rariiand Mari- :bm We/me/zerzmfirs and View; the fdisfi- gored face of the Church of England under {Infithe fecond, 10572, & Henry the third, Kings of England, will ack no wledge that the Pope had more power and jurisdiéli-on in England in the perfons of his Biflrops‘ and 'Abbors,fithenin any .orher Kingdome, and will notwonder, if Bi- ‘ #10 s have hitherto kept pofleffion, though they ‘ hold no more of the P0pe; nor will he eafily be perfwaded, that that goverhement is of Divine br Apofiolieall infiitution,whrch h‘athever beenc contrary to the conflitutions of the ancient Church, and to Imperialllawes, and repugnant 'to the proceedings of all Courts of Iuaice, and common equity and fence. ' . " Theft: ten grounds or reafons which are rockie for up- - . . ,. -g('r>i< - ufiiblfiin‘g ifi‘ii‘afl’eenidn; We Epifls'opallEugliij go“ am»: 2'3 Antic‘liri/limzareifand ie under the {upera a fifuélure of'th'e Authour of the -Rem0nfi'rancc,fox Who "(1611th but 'an EcClefiafticali Governementp ""thatiéi ffixeh, cgnnot. bee pleaded to be unalte'table, .1. and not to bee removed, - though it werei’neverafo; 'aneici'nt ‘, fince' there is no prefcription 'a’gainfl _ Chtifiand the .Apofiles. infiitution, and that the; number ofyeares cannot makea lyerto beea truth; " yea rather many“ things are werfe’rby age, and'ian.‘ 'old'manhathjno mofe the beeing of man, then a. youngm‘a'ns and abommon-wealthno {bore-then a Ch’u rch is nothing the better for to be of an an— e’ientei‘fianding, But as his vaineand our of the quefliOn,to preve Epife0pacie-5to bee OEDWi‘ifieg right, and' to have Eonitinn'ed " fl); manyhundred yearcs, and to call unjufi and Weak: the clamouri‘ 0f ihofe that cry downe' Epifcopaci‘e; likewifer' it is noJefle loft labour to goe about to perfwade the Honorable Houfe with *fu’ch earnefinefl'e not to givCWaY‘fé) ‘ the change of Epifcopacy, which. hathits' pedegree From the Apofile’s': for [know none Of ‘fthem that cry downe'fu‘c-hen'Epifcopacic, or give‘th his confcenc to pulliit Up,few or none: 'of .‘them‘*be'teevin that the Epifcopall' gove‘rnez inent as it is' efiEhfliflied in?E England iis‘a‘derivec‘l . from ‘thet'ApomesgiNho ever éifirmesj that Priefis are by Divine right, 'will'not Confequen’tiv evince Divine right in the funfiion oftheiRo'mifh PrieflS: . Thelike mayleay of E-pichpa'll-v-governement of thefe times, in reference to ”thatfin thetim‘esof the Primitive Church :‘ ’ " 7 ‘ ' ‘ B 2 3 ‘ I As (3) - - As the'i-R'emonfltancms ‘fuperiii tuQure: is like. :~ to be to {te r-i ng5ifit be ”grounded :u ponthagi QIPRQH tion,that Engliih Epifcopall governetnent is Apoe .- fiolicall,fo will it bee like to fal E ,5 having no better: gmu‘nd; then he: glayes‘fld’owne, viz, _, That Epjf-coev... paeyz, or the-eminent fuper’iority of : Bifhops above, their fellow Pre’sbyzers in, the poviter ofordinatier on? and jurifdiaion is‘of Divine infl'itutio'n ,~ and thatvthat {pirituall' powethath beene by Apofioli- Gail {anthotiue delegated unto' Timotbyand T #141,. anérocheAngells of the Church GPA/1‘45 Touche" ing nmwy, it is a wonder that Saint Paul writing, _. to the Ephefians doth not fo much as once make' . mention of him 5 far is, he to enjoyne him to keepe refidenc'e. - in his Diocefl'ei, where. it is like hee made no?great tefidencq» bfiing Upon every occa-i {ion {ent from place replace by theappoint'ment, of Saint Paul, and it appeareth by Imam: , Nia cepharu:-.and Eufibz’m, that job» the Apoiilc i'n-‘ med iately after the councell of the Apdilcgdfi the 'I s'did governethe Church of‘Ep/Jefiu, nntill thed 3 yes of Trajan the Emperour : I might 'alfoj wonder that S.P4ul,who had a cooperatour in mofl: things he, did Ol' wrote, wouldordaine Elders in preflu,when they had at hand their Dim/Zn "Bi- wep'appointedfotthat wotk5neither by the An- gels of the {even . A/izm Churches are meant {even feverall Diocefan B1ihops5for the things {poken to \ afingle Angel are laid to him under that title,in the . name of all the flocke, within the precinct of one ' particular Church or congregation. Thus the An— _ gels Gene]: 32. v. I. who met facob, are in the 46. chap. verfe 16. included in one Angel. And it - 15 , ' -( 9) ' " . is’the expofition of‘Cdlwin PM. 43. ,v._ . 7. that b y. a finglct‘Angel- pitching his campe for the defence ,. of thefaithfull, more thenone, yea all the. good. .' Angels are underflood: I fay more that it is verie _. ‘ likelie that by the Angel-of one Church, not oneg «l‘y-theEldets of that one Churchjare underflood, . but alfo'the whole Churchit ,lelfe; elfe it will ‘ follow that for the finne of one «Bifhop or a few. ‘ Miniflers,’ if they had not repented the whole con-q gregatio‘n had-defe’rved to be bereaved of the light oft-he Gofpel, and the wordsfizmczaf you, ind“; 2.Ch‘ap. Verfe 10‘.~Whefher. thty infiuuate the whole Church, or the Pafiors of the Church, doe fliew, they , cannoc be underflood of one tingle Angel 'or Minifler. ‘ - ' - I , , In the-next place gagthe Author-ofthe'Remon: (trance faith in derilion of the French difcipline, ~ thatTLay--Eld'ers till this page ‘th ineverany {oat- ing in the Chriflian Church , I will net {land , realbning what great neede there is “of Laymen to bee ,(harc-r'swith the Paflors in the adrninifiration of the Churches difciplin‘e : ‘onely {to make good, thatl‘tfuch Lay- Presbyters- are grounded ’ upon» Scripture,itiscleare out of the words of the .467: ‘ chap. 15.‘ verfe 2 '2. It pleafizth the u! pofl 15:, the El- derr,’ wit/y the whale Church. By the whole C burr/J either‘ the Whole Company of Elders, or :he Chick: of'the people, ifnot the whole Chrifiian eongte- gation prefent at. fitemfizlem is underflood. The former cannor be,el{e by an uncouth tautologie in -. onelittle vertigthe Elders were laid to have met with Elders. Itfollowes then, that. by the while C hurt}: Others he meant btfidcs Bifhops ancdljl- us ((0)321 - e ._ a, - tiers ; It matters notmuchivhetherthtyh:ee;c'al..-i. led ' Laya‘Presbyters- Or not:, sass long as. the thing i intended is granted, viz. that the Laicke congre- , gation maymeddle in Churches affaites, and give councell and aflifiance to. the -Pflfli0[$ and; beesas- well as they arbiters and ce‘nfiuets of etmrsand diforders. For further proofe thereof inthe .I4tof- the A67: verfe-z 3.though the Englifltverfionihath, ' When they had ordained Eldm', the Greeke -gugmt'... ' 5mm beares as much, aséthat Elders were ordained, by the adv‘ifeof the congregationgAgair-I inthe 6; of the .453, the whole multitude of: Difciples is‘ {aid to have c’hofen the feven Deacons of 'Whoitii‘ Saint Steven was one. That by the multitude of the Difciples others are meant then-the company of the Elders, it is manifefl by'thc ninthoft‘he 5462's,, verfe 39. where Tabitha woman iscalled anancient-Difciple: And by the eleventh chap.- vetfe 26. where it is {aid that the Difciples were firfi called Chrifliaus in Antioch 5 The appellations of Difciples and Chtifl'ians theing promifcuoufly uftd 5 befides Wefeein the deficit of the Apofile Martha, no: ohélyth‘e ApOflles, but the whole congregation which was of I zo‘.ha’d vote and voice. Good Lord {hall one of. few Bi- {hops in our dayes vindicate more. toithcmfelvcs then the Apoflles- themf‘elves did 5 though the leaft of the ~Apofllcs were better gifted, anden. dowed with more power,then all the Bilhops of the Chrifliau World put together. Now adayes the greatcfl part of the Church is counted no Church, and it remaineth that mens foules fltould be . (v I I ) _ be pinned. up within three 0r foure mens Lawneé fleevestButwhieh is mofl ‘flrange,t‘hofe that quar— ' tell to much aboutLay -Elders,fe<: not or will not fee, that what they exceptagainflther‘eformed C hurchesout‘of England, is even praé‘tifed in Eng, landinu the offices of Chancellors, Conimifl'aries, Offieials,Regiflets,Apparitors,’& fuch like Graf- hoppers; with that onely difference, that thefe make afale of holy things, and tend in two the feameleffe coate of C hrifl,‘ they often drawing it one way, and the . Bilh'ops anathét Way; __ But the 'Lay-Presbyters fo much [jeered at by t’he‘Remon- 'flrancer bOth live in good amitie with the Pallets, ' and difcharge ': their places gratis. I fay more, it Was never heard in France or in the Low Conn. , tries, that Lay—Elders did vindicate fo much to themfelves of' the power of * the Eccl‘efiaflicall ~ke‘ys,asthe Biflmps - Chancellors have-oflate'u4 ifurped in pronouncing fentehCe ofexcomrnunica'. - {tion and abfolutiontwithout' the. knowledge, and. :againfi- the intent of the Bifliop. i It is alfo a great - ‘wounding oftheKings authority to debarre Lay'- men from medling in Churches affaire‘sgfor who is it that doth not know,that our dreadful] King is a Layman, and that the Chriftian Magiflrate can- not be kept fromhaving a hand in the adminiflra- tion of the Church without implicitely wounding " through their fide,the head of the Chrifiian Ma- “gifi‘ratea . a To fupport‘ more flrongly the governement of the Church in England by Bifhops, hee bringeth the afiEnt and tei’timonie of Spanbcmiu: a learned ' ‘ pro. t _. (- ‘12) . Profeflion in Genet/4.. I exPeéted the tefiimonie . oftnéay mere Divines. To which I anfwer,‘ that Spanbemiu} a nd many more ~as Moulin , Rivet; ‘ deznicr, had likewife in reverend eiteet'tte Epifcoe my in the Church of God , and'therefore‘had no reafon to condemne Epgi‘fc0p.teie,or tog falljout with the pious & learned men that? were invei’ted with it,fuch are thofe yet living Morton, Davemm; Hall, Williams, Potter, and the incomparable-Frit- matepf Ireland; who doe not firetch their power to the extent oftheir high )urifdié‘tion, as it is es. '{t‘abliflied in Englgnd; which I make no quefiion is avowed- by ,ailfthc orthodoxe Paftors out Of Egglapd to be 3', branch of that kingdome of An: t ith’ri’ihthat had‘ taken {0 deepe' roor- in England : 'I‘his_tnan’_ make Spanéerfiim more; inferifib'le then ‘51 fiche; had :hee approvedithe uneharit‘ablenefl'e and the bitter venim and ‘foule "afperfions that: were call upon the reformed Fren'cb Churches hnd’particularly upon (56mm by thofe Biflmps, and others who 'lately‘fate- at the fleme of the Churches government. ' The Arehbiflmp ‘Lzmde hath more then once called Calvin a rafcall, and the Geneuian lay Presbiters, a new fangled devife of’Calvin , leaving to fpeake how he vilifies with bafetermes, Other Reverend French Divines; in his Epiflle to the King before the opufiula pofl/m- ma ofBiihop .Andrmm, hee gives that report of Peter Maxim that hee is T beologu: mm indoilm é- acuturjhm. A Dim’ne notvnleamea' 45d teafénablc acute. Neither doth he f pare his owne, as Cran-' met, and mea , calling them the Zelotes of @eene . (1 31 (\uee1e Var/es damp. 1511101) 11111112111112 nl11'3 Algparams and Cll'e Where, callCS the 62112212211 by 110 other namethenjnnomtors,311d tmduecrh them and then: lelowers, fuch as Scaligcr,Par1ws and Calmfim,as 3 paeke ofShifinatiCkes,‘ and br 21inc— lCfl'e ral'Calls: Thelike deal hug haV'e t‘ .1'Cy With 81-- lhop Wren Pierce, Manmr'in Heylng’ochgtan _ Couf 12 and the like; What char: :3th encert.11nC--._ "meht judge ye, may Geneva: Church finde among ” ' fuCh men ,fi11CC one of the bell Bifhops of England 1 15161101th to hCV'C £1an 11111 )tldgcmem of tl1C1r d1l'c1p1111e that it 15 fit onCly ertradCl'an and nggCrs. - In that thC charitie OF S .m/yemim and