(IHE QLIAKER DISARMD.‘ A TRUE ‘i2REI.,AT10Ni Of :4 Late Publick % I S P U T E % HELD AT CAMBRIDGE mg? 1 \»\ % . . U By‘ :1'hree Eminent Q_u A K 1: R s, againfi 0:3: Scholar of Cambridge, % g VVLTH» A Letter in Defence of the MINI srmr,‘ ‘ AND AGAINST, LAY-PREACHERS.% ALSO Sevefal _0___zga°rie.r propofed to the Qgakeri to be anfwcred if they can. :——- - ————— -4 ——~ Q L . ' .}W L o NDO N, Prjptcd by 3". and are‘fuld meet the Little Nerth-Door of .5: 1?é%é ‘ I ‘ /E’/‘RPS. BX? i TH E P R A C 7/3;" Lfore 1/2»: down the particulars of this Di/llmte, it _/teem: e not iamifil‘ to premzfe( as an introtlatlzon to it) 22-hatpaf]ea’ hetmeen this Schos lat ana’ the forementionea’ JGeorge,VV hitehead hefpre it. t I . ¢ In May laft this Scholar ttalleing over the Palace ma ahoat his necef— ary occa]z?.=ns,chancea’ to fee agreaf maltitade of’P eople over a Cjaznfl‘ VVell:- mixifter Hall coztzpafl ea’ with Seitldiers in red Coatev. Drawing 7/€t¢}"§ he heard VVhi'tehead preaching againfi l1niverfities,Leatning, and Tiches, ifia’ the Clergy 5 and as/étfimte ofthe yea’-eoates whether he. might {peak 3. ord ,> They anfwerelcl the} could. not tell. Whereitpon he crowded agate VVhiceheadanol asht him the fame -qaejlion, '2i:vihoi,flticl No, no. Another _.5oala/ier that flood neer him, fate’, hold th tongue or Ile flop thy mouth. So the Scholar held hi$ peace, till VV. act. done. his‘ railing, againjt the Priefts‘. ‘Then the People c‘rject"oat with one~1Joice,e Let the Gentle- man fpeak, let theGentlcman fpeak; ‘ Wheteapon -the Scholar flood up, and afecl _[lt6'l’J ‘arguments in few. ware’: againfl W. (in anfteer to which, W. faia’ nothing shat another? Q._ [food apiandprajreel ) that all the People fhomtea’. 1 Notwithflanding which the going on in his prayer, the people macle anlhideousifhttiele to difltirhe him‘. The Quakers all ale- fireal the 8.260 quiet them- telling him they were followers and Sons of Ifhmael. At length the People(feeing thdtnone‘ of the Quakers would attempt to anfmer the Scholars argument, dejirecl him to come‘ away; lei’: the Q fhould do him a milchief. ‘So he left the Qtahetfy, and with him came all the People, leaixing a few Soatdierse and taco: _a'- aloazene .Qtah‘€t‘5 4? their extreme.‘ the‘ Day fi2llozas»ing,l iantljeverall elayes after the 5. went to feeh the Qgiahers at theaid hoafe, hzttfwnd moi never yet heard that any ofthem aizetitherefince. i o ' Mew” AU%;- 235- 16 s9«‘t1JefeoIet5-el1eV?e£ 56’??? all the Afteteave ' i( from ‘oneitclock till font‘ at fiiie) tag. Johns Coll. Library turning. ./‘*5’-’ -Sade " covet) i§3i"l”% -rI4Ea.eoxEcPACEa- - e 417251 other M55. "§'t'ttm2.I'72g home? ;;Iw4r'ig;l his’ fi?;1%éfi“'n°2j’; Iwives bimfeéfl . 'gmexpeé?edl‘yam tlaefctme V‘./hitcchead prektifibii/g .57? 1196’ »QM1"6’7'5 f077*”15’3 . nzeeting-boztfi’. So he went ii2,defirea’ [Bate to fjzmk: and ( when V\/hite« head lmddozze) tazzfutea’ bi: Dofirine, Next day, coitfit/eriizg ham apt filly Women were to ée led army captiztefiy [Eula deceivers, be fa/at t'l21l5 fol- ‘loxviizg Note to the Major of’ Cambridge, lyaping 1'22 the ca‘/xtlztfiozz to 7:’- claim his Wife, who is 4, Qgzz/ten, . Whereas George Wl2ite/ae;t:.lpteae‘:1er to the Quakers in Canzbridge 'c'te1iver’d in his Sermon among them Yefierday, I. That they are not Heretic!-:5, and_‘2.that they teach no other Doétrine. bucwhatfléwk . ‘ham and C/mfi caught 3 and 3. aftenvards {21Ld,Ihat the Scriptures % are not thoword of God, to I’ am ready this Day ( at any~hour;or place )“ to prove the f'orC.'é5 mentioned Doctrines very _fa1{e5 and t21y..\ to defend” thofe 3 argué ments,that- lunged againit ‘him yefierday, by ;fl1”owi1i'g {hat he neié ther did ,-“norcan anfwet any‘~thing to them : and 31y-. to prove by di¥- ‘vets other argumenegthat ’tis aadamnable fin for him ( or any fuch man) to preach, and a- danmable fin for-any man or woman to heat h1m.- ' Chr. Coll. Aug; 25. 1659. T. T. S. ‘ ‘ Hereztpoizthé /.1!tzjar‘f'ar V\thic>:h*ead,t M20 iéefore him ) “T wroté tlanm tb€[efbl10'wt}2gpofitzoh'S 5 wbzth hefaidhc waztltfdcfeizd againfl S. at what tzme, aizslplate, the Mtzior [bould appoint. ‘ {I-T That we called (laakertso do not ‘open a door to ‘damnable Heif rrexes, , T . - ~ « 1 L '2; That We called Qaakers are not Heteticks :becaufe T = 3; Wedo not teach any Herefy, and ' T ' T T 4; ~We'walk not in the Preps of Hereticks. 5. That-the Bible is enottthe Word. « . ' Tbefe things I n§ill'a'defe;zd agaizzfi the contrary afifrmzztiom ofT',‘ Si." ‘ ' “ ' ' , Gfiorgfi‘ Whitehead.’ them alfo. zfben he tauféd thefetlaree pofitioits to to writ faying, lye woztld defend T 6. The Sctii3tu_1fe$_d0t1 1n0t fay? If any man fa} lye_ bath zzafifiae dc’-f 7-! “"i’7‘fHz P R ae"..4.2:z.“ T ‘\ 7:. Ideny that this is truth [ Ifaay maizfay he hath Ito]/'17 he a'eteioer himfelf as concerning the Saints. - 8. "HS not a Damn-able fin; for me or any fuch man to pteaehattd fomany man or woman to hear us. - - ~ ~. Uh $a.utday night Aug. 27. T. S. wow/ring that heheard i€0th'i}7g*of the time and place omeefirzg, went to the Major to ash what was rejitlved, who ahfwered, that the Aldermen were not willing it jhoalel he in the Town-Hall 5 So that if there were any D/[)2/he at a£/, it mafl he ii? the ‘ Qzahers com.-nor: meeting hoof}, hat thaffeverall Aldermen were not wil-i ling there flaoald he art)’ D/fit/ore, am’ that he hint/elf would not atlwl/‘e T,.$'_ to_Dij]2ate. Where/ipoa T. S. refol:;ea' rot to dzfptae agairifi the mimle of the. C orporatioh. Next da} Aug. 2 9. hetween 1.2 , and 1. a clock Came this. following Summons to T. S. from W. t ’ Frzena’, T. S. This is to certifie thee, that according to our agree} ment when I was with thee, I-am willing to give thee a meeting. And feeino that no other place is appointed, I intend to be at our meetino pface (over againit Sidney C olleaige -gate this day about the I. or 2 . hour in the afternoon. Where I may expeft thy appearance,’ according to thypromife to me, ,fiti’c to produce thy arguments, 81c. i Subfcribed G. Whiteheaa’.. ' Cambridge this‘ 2 9th.. of the 5th Moneth. 5 9. — Saperferihea’ for T. S. at that place called, Sic. Imntediatel} the fame Perfirz .reeeivea’ another Stmtmoizs front Mr. James Aidets hegir/niag that. i_ ' " Sir, I wasca11ed.this‘Morning to Mr. Major, and there I’ was told that ’tis the defire of the Qaakers to meet you, at their houfe of meeting 5 they begin to think you are afraid to meet them, 8cc. ‘ NotwitiJflaI2diI2 thefe T. 3. continued in he Chaméer, till a.Mej]eoger tame firom Mr. Al ers to tell him, that the Quakers were met and reported that T. 3. did not dare to come. Yhereaporz he went andfoana’ G‘. Fox preaching. _ Efleeining it not lainfoll to hearhim, he left the room, hat era- trea’ again, as foorz asfirmon wat done. T hen there was [Fame dehate where” T. S. , fhoald (tend, and oecauj} the‘.Q. woaldfitffet“ hzm tote/re. mp-lace hut where he fhould he compafled with Quakers ( as G. Whitehead. wad, , kljb ) he flood where they qayoiated ‘ him. A _'> .-3 The g gazing if. moi; eezazasg. Qxakerfi g The Dzfpute. ._ _ 3 {con as T. 3. had taken hisplace, G. W’. made along fpeech to tell the people the occafion of that difpute: and that the « quefiions to be difcufled were thefe. 1- W7-‘calmer it were a Dammzblefin for him to preach and 2. ct Dammz- > 516 fin for any to hear am. And charging T. S. with folly for Paying that Whitehead was an heretick,and yet confefling that T. S. knew ‘not all W ’s. Opinions.T. S. interpofede only this, Marl; the word all. I 7711!} truly fay you boil berefies,z'f I know only fame. Whctllle had done. T . S. faid thus Good people; you come not 7 hitherto hear fermons and fpeeches but a difpute. This man hath troubled you with a long difcourfe -wherein he concludes that] mull: begin at the latter end; which of what sconfequence it is, all you that _haveskil in any trade or fcience know as well as I. I {hall not trouble. you with many words, but (in fhort) {hall only entreat you to hear bim again, Ile read to you his own paper. George P17/aireiaead is this ‘ your hand or is it not. W. I acknowledge it my writing. ' S. Ile read his hand-writing, So T. S’. read it ( as-, tis fet down be-i fore) and then askt the people whether he {hould take the propofitions in order as they were placed in Wbitebead: paper or not. Who anfwer- ‘ing Tea Tea. He began thus. « 1. That we called Quakers do not open a door to damnable Herefies. 2. That we called (Luakers are not I-lexeticks. I i Againfi. this your firli pofition I difpute thus. A - _ He that writ this Book opens a door to damnable ‘Herefies ( balding forth rt Printed Book in his l:am!,ezztz'tuled I_/hmael and bi: Mother ca/i out.) You writ this Book,therefore you open a door to datnnable Herefies. 2-Whitehead replyed, I deny it‘. I . » ~ S. What doyou deny? g I ‘ I . ‘ I IV. That you {poke Ian,’ I do .not open a d001’_tO damnable Herefiesu S. That is my conclufion: you lhould deny one of the.Premifes. ‘ _ Here S. gave him the Book to look on g and then ask; him whether he were thé Author of that Bookor not ?" ’ I ' . i " W. ‘I didnot Write it all : tfor:therei_s fomewhat fcribled in it. 3.. ':I'r.ue, here are fome things writ on then. ~b‘ack;fid¢; 11¢-charge Ian with nothing but what isprinted- .¥Ve;c_you the Author 0531} that IS‘ . Had a Scholar at Cambridge.‘ ‘s printed in~t!hi's Book ? Your Name is printed both in the beginning midi}, and end of it. ‘ L s ' i . W. About three years ago I and’ four more Writ it between us. i e S. Fpray tell me plainly whether youl own it or not. If youl not own it all, then tell me what you will i own, what‘. not. ()Cl-1.€I‘WlfC. when I have proved it a melt wicked book, you may diio W11 it, and To all my difcourfe fall to the Ground. "Tis noppleafure to me to Fpeak, or this people to hear vain words. If you will not own it fpeak. But: you may as well difownto morrow all that you fay to day ( telling us that words are but wind ) if you difown that which you have printed. A and affixt your name (0 oft unto. . W. Well. ‘I willown it, prove what thoneanil. ‘ .3. All Pap-ills open a door to clamnable herefies. You who writ this book are a.P.apift. *. . . Therefore you who writ this book openva door to damnable pherelieg; _ Fox, wii'per’d (but loudenough ) sMrzrlg téie Major is 7Jm’verfa:ll. ‘ II/lsereuponfome of tbe people rcrjeei, down with tbztt black, fellow that; prompts behind, but S. fzz_z'd?, mo let them alojze... What doyou at-xfwer 3* i W. I deny. "I deny. ” l i i ‘ ' i ‘ ' i .5’. What do you deny? Major or minor L?‘ i e 17'. That: you fpoke lafl. ' . to p .15‘. repeated the argument again and W. denyed the conclufion. ‘. S. .If you go on to deny my eonclufions‘ Ifliall do nothing but reé-' ‘peatmy Syll0gi.fi*nes : for my Syllogifilrproves my conclufion. p t W. Repeat iptlletl. f Here If/.» Allen a Quaker interpofediand macle a fpeech to tell the people that he d-id not like this way of difputing and bid T.S. difpute plainly Without Logick and fy'llog'.ifmes,and Vainc termes. . i S; Whitehead was the firil that mentiond major andminor, and ufecl ii Syl'logifn1e tother ‘dayjto prove Scripture was not the words of Fox laid that the Major jwas univerfall. It Ceemes they both 1mderPt‘and well‘ ‘enougl'1"what_ belongs to a S’yllogi{'me.’ And I" think I have not fpokea Word which the meanefl here doth, not underflandg and ‘that i this way of difpiute is lilked hell by all : if not let them fpeak. People.‘ ‘1.Jerjwell_,, very well. We lake this way of difpute befi ofall.‘ I i 3 My 3-Y.§.;ll|n1,€‘l1£i.i;S.oChiS,Alll':P'a-Pifls open ‘_a door to,d‘amna—ble' herefies, youwho Wm ithisbobfk area Papifi, Therefore you; w_l1o_ writ this b0Ol{é open ‘a dOOf "tO'Clam13ia'ble‘here[-ies. Alderman Blacklj. Thisis. doth nothing but fay the fame thing aw: \ gain and again. E, gglatiafl la Dzfiute éeliiieii §.‘QL1aket§; W’. Iamno Papiii. _‘ a . . a _' _ I. s."Y,ou'deny my n‘1inor:_ w’mch_I prove thus. He who iaefulgetll fit‘: take the oath ofabjut-ation isa Papxft. He who writ this 00 1e fufeth to take the oath of abjmgution. Therefore he who writ this bookis a papill. I de_ny all Popery. _. e W .[h S. A Papifi willlay (0 too. Imight charge you With mall)’ P91” Doétrinesg but now I only ask whether you will take the oath of 3135"“ I "ration, or deny one of my propofitions? . . .“ Here Fox who had interpofed feverall tunes before made a Iona ‘clifcoutfe to prove that ’tw‘as unlawfull for a Chrifiian to fwear. S. did let him run onto the end, and let W. {peak after him. Then 2151“ . whether any more of that party had ought elfe W to fay? all beiflg film‘; . ;;u1le{'s ryotfl Ideny that’, prove it! T. replied. I’ , _ S. I came not hither. to difpute with F ox or Allen; but line: you art? refolvetlto difpute three of you againfl on'c,I {hall reply to you all()’€3 ifthere were three hund*red,if you {peak but one at once) Which of ml’ yropofitions do you d i p grant theconclufionithat he is a Papill. F. Prove that ’tis lawfullto fwear. ‘ my major or minor '3 For you mull deny 0“? 8. That is another que'Pcion: which‘Ile prove at any feafonablfi I ..tnnewhen ever youfhalldefire rue .- but this is no fit feafon gfor We . jmuft now flick clofe to the queflions before us. ‘ ' W “People. Te; dofo. 130172. I a “ I ' —- , = Here thefMajors wife entreated T; S. toilay afidc ’Wbitebead3‘ book" and dafpute _fromScripture.' Well quoth hel will for a While: {0 ha gave the book to her, and taking a Bible faid. W 5. Turn to 2 Cor. 5. 20; Where we are Ennbafladotits for Chrifi. From Whichawords I prove that ’tiS 311 appropriate Miniflry-, proper to fotne only, not common to all zandf therefore that every Chriftian man and .wonian is. notan Enlbafladollf you have thefe words, Now thfffl . of Chrifi, you G. ‘W. told the people toth_e‘r_ day. _Iy frame my argu-y ineiit thus. He who pretends to he an Enibaffadour of Chrifi and hath no com-4 million to fhow,but what all the damnable hereticks in the world do p01‘ may (how, that 'manop,ens a door to dainnable pHereticks_. But you pretend to be an Erubafladour of Chrift’ ‘and have: no jcpof111_np1i{iio'1:1tQ. fhow, but what all the da1nn’able,Hereticksfyiin the Worldfido "o:r.imay Il1_9W° herefore you opena door t,o_damnable Heretiipcks.’ ‘S.'Wl1af 2 ‘leugbt,.jhouted, ‘jhtmpec1.and bzfled., And Jbe Qligakers-dsked T. Spif be wzzsnotr ajlmmecl; of his" .fo:lloniers, ,—Hejm-. T fwered, ‘Ibzzt none of them were bi: followers 5 for ibe<;C‘;zme‘.rzZo;;e,.»:a:g:£ Zzroug/at notone with him}: "That it vim tbeir meeting-H,ozi[e,~ cmdftberefore more like]; to be their followers. ‘So after 5. » at-.tbe.‘Qr'_zal{,ers reqeuefi‘ ) lied entreated the peopleto be quiet; be asked PV. e - e _ r . , S. Do you profefs. your felf; to be.an..En1baHa7¢dor=.of? ,Chrifl_’., or _do, yOul1OC? ‘Yi€a'iId0..:" ' .. -I" 7' ."..l;E;.s ':;:g~" -e S. Then-that~you‘ may .underliand;my'arg11m.ent the“bet.t;er ; . fog: ;I-, ; perceive you do not yet ken it ).g17ll illuflrate it by a fimili-tude. Sup-s pofe we being not at» peace witty:-Spaz'n,. twelve, men lhould go hence to the‘ King of that Nation, and/tell him that they are all Cent E_rnb;;f_- fadors to him4fr-‘om: the Par.lia’n1ent'_of England. He asks» them for their CQntmiliions_. One of them [hows him his iConm.1illion in-.:P.arGhn1ent e:. -+ and the other Tn.c’ell him hzivea Commiflion-, but he muli beleeviyc ' them on their words’For thcf'y‘~c'annot A {how it. Every one of them ~ex- « claiming againli this-man Who ihowes his Comrnifliofla and againfl the _ other for counterfeits: crying‘ aloud, that he himfelf, and he alone is . the true__ Er-nbaffador, though.» he have nothingato ,pr.o.Veit by,m_or.e then the other (ten Tfalfe‘; ‘;I11:?f.ucl1:=a< cafe;Would« you,-iilnot fay.-_thac theft: 11’-are Knavésf? lAnfw‘e’r.I:.-»: .'- :.~ -, , 1 ‘ .- % - A’ 31/7. and. F. meal! the re,/Ffiood {fill lI71f1_rll-1.6l;720t"d‘W07‘d. 1‘ , . a , S. If it be an heinous fin forany man-to ‘pretends. Commiflion from 1 ‘an earthly Prince or Parliament, when he hath none indeed toiéhow, - than not his ‘crime «be incompatrably.n1ore gnicvous, his ..co11den_3nati'o11 unfpeakably more dreadful who pretends oiiefront. tl1,e~K.i:ng-.of:Hea-_- f zreiz4V.v7l1.e‘i1~i‘heili'a€li4110116‘ ti0el'11mvc';? ; JV. I‘ hailfi a.con1Imiifiox1. 5-? .Sl1.0W .31‘- Here W. Stoodmute : and the people fzzid be 1e.is~wont;to call the Clergie Qt D?””5 D0gS[5‘bzitinow"*be~w:zsjDumb bimfelf.’ 73 2:» « . ; !j" . T’ -.-’ ,, *_ i ;S Let us hear or fee what your commiffiofl is. Dill-i-ng~u:ifl1 I113? €°‘.“" mflfioili _Wh'i5€h uyou fay 'you.have ‘fcdnuzh an SVlll.)'L(Zl1.§.2l:l’l".;l"-if,-V1.13 o-Dia_nlI_1«2bl€ HG‘ . ‘flicks "1 31¢ Wmldido m'aV;p'rodnce:*fot‘ Eheni€€1V€S.- . ‘. 4 .9 Here \7V~."*mrldegiz loiogifpeeébuto.tbepeople.e:iTo:1?Z!iCb.5é "PI)".5;d3.‘- - r h 3- Y9“ ha“ ‘Old as along fiorie, whercofi ea-11%.. malic. *‘1€i‘h“‘:h9'3d nor foot. lam filre it concerns my argument no 3.10“? tl1¢‘.1 if You lheuld tell us, theyarc now felling apples upon the .Mark€§:-,l1illg T611 . . us: 01', fl'10W.,1_l5_ What 13 your commilfion-.~ ':a. . 1::uf 3.5; 3",? '.=;»'tI‘::‘:;. : . _;.-. ....- TV. 'I*'ha”ve niy.commi1lionr£rTon1.<.C}bri:fl. , ' S. I do notflwell hearawlrat’ jiom-fa)’:.5¥ ;bu:J_it-h5I1l< )’.0l'|-tflfiltl 1.133-.Qf 5 €10-* ‘ . “her commiflion the other dayfronz ;t.hat:whiCh you fpeak .0.f11°W-_ 1 - , . B i W, I told ‘~ Z4 Rela:i'o1ibf2§l3r'j!}2ute*laetu§?réigttcfialcersi l W. I told you then, that I had it from the power of God,» andrrmoii that I had it from Crhrilh ' ~' ‘ i Q ' S; They differ.— vF0r:.'Mofi*5 l18.d_l_7!'i'S’__(3.()'l11I'“i‘-l.lil‘l.€_3,fl. from the power God, yet h’ade’:itinotvfiion1 (.3h.ri~fl‘=il:. who-glare7 . Here the _C1’ij.'d blefé 119,", h T 8. See here he faitl; that he who aflercs the three P61 fogs‘ in the ever ' bleffed Trinity is a dreamer and a conj,urcr, and ;thac_.tl1at man [hall be da,n'1ned_wic;hthat Trinity.._ - _ - ~ F ox. We do not deny God the1'ef:oree%we are no 71i1‘c»r_e::i,c;%k,c;;,_, Achfe-fifis-r edenyGod;:th¢1=¢f9P¢$h¢Y,ar;€=H€r€t;icks.s . L . ’ -5- Thris-31,311 .:.‘V»i”~,b§ 0‘pp9I1;h~Iit. ahgqi;1_., _r_4\',‘c‘h«ehi{'}‘s;}é1re 1i1o:Heretic-ksf. ’: F. A1'enotAtheifi,_S Heret,i'C_k$.., ‘ - ' r e « 1 S. NO. At%h¢ifiSre3E€~.W01‘f6.thet1THerfetiehéhebllt they. a_1'e.'.hr11AotH.8I‘3‘ L fiCk5+.. From th€f¢-W.0rdS in I/If/3i}jcbeacl§{ bookhowr read, I argue thus‘, 3? who d€1Ii¢$t the shrée ;eP¢¥rfé3}s;.risx: $.53. Be ;Trixwiry, and cans him etdteanler }3'1d;€Q9J!1€F1\V*.h9 a1I¢rrt§«th1=,n1».efayingthat..a man . who ;fait" there be three per.fo11$.. 111.fhC,,rlTL_l11}§)§'§,fl]3u be {hot up-with them in; per- 'p__etuh211‘l‘oda19k.n;<:{1§; .fortth.cléike 'auhd»the,pi_t_',_,‘that man‘is an Heretick even V de11yi1;g3._t_l1;e.:L0re15thaL_ ho1.;ght_“hi!t1l.% But youG, If'b;‘t,eb¢>,;1'ded5,ny_ the three perfons m_ the bleffed 'I%%‘1rix1i%ty»,j ;&_c,_ . ', __ r ~ Eoxt Hez;cr.n1.2L_1de Very ; long. difcomjfe -z.ga_.'mfi: ch ~ T;~’i;fi,cyA,; p_% h St-. 7B.e10Vh€d Yoltffie: 1 1}-tr11.i.ni"fP¢ak,al1, rr1ac;»‘<:;mray,% 1 do nos; di&u'rb' - them in their {p§aI$3i1§ ;33stfi¢X';d;5.ii1¢,l I;g11_1,\3zil17i11g._to hear him 0138‘ :1.y.oftlien1, fp€a_k.alIjthg‘yflCa'!1Info!‘.. t}).t“:I§11..(,’€:.l..\f‘,’e$’,‘.b‘fic.I'c'o;;1fcWfs. ic grievess ‘ . _meto.hear themfpeak-agahjft the BI. ,Thj#ifn.ity,,.a1)dI ha-d«fa1‘.1'ath€F_ '»he;ir them talk offome.wha't.elfe'then make.‘decrl'amatJionsrégainfl Al- % 'mighty7God_;._ I _a11fW€1f,T_bg:t 11oth_i1_1g.QF;thi‘s,yo1gr.i’peecht‘i's'r to th'epur- . flp'o_fe. VV1j'.atdo y'O‘1‘:.';'&‘l]"-1".W-61‘ to ‘the. £1.11-.',’tt11_1e5i1r1;,.?,'..It;“ g-'¢peacehi.E.oziga_i11.f H6 7_Who de11ieS,.&c.' , . r h V V ' . .. A if you! an \ F0 IA-.un.on_in another di{cou.{,;agai:1{1 thethitee Lperfons. . o ‘S.’ Icimls. not hither to }1€._fll.‘.yOut0i[~eP‘¢at a dean of {mg omgzof Paul Bea]? [ who writ againfithe Trinity . I came hich'e;- to difpute. . .f“7e¢r.r‘??Y “‘7:‘3"*1“?‘3“‘>d°~I If ‘?°C5"f3Y ,}’.0l1.¢"*l3.L11r0t-L. Fr /P.§‘0.V€,.th%t\¥hc1:e be thrée per1.on;s,.__ .. ‘ 7 r A L S; I. , ~ °l4;m’.4 3ehoIér*.d%.Camhri_dgeZ 5”.'IWill_. ‘f V; ._ _ _‘ I . . , ' ,‘: .- .53 But prove Stout of S’criptu1‘€'. ~ « L , ‘ _ t 'S. Iwill To ( 1 fa/:22‘ 5. 7. )There be three that hate record in Here- ven 3 the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and thefe three are one. F.,Prove that th€I‘€,l)C three Perfons. » L . . I - . S, Iwill. ‘ . . _ . A!/én. Prove the.m.to bethree Perfons plainly. witthout» Logieaell ’7 rt_ern1es' and vain Philofophy, that we may all underlland thee. 2. F. What do you mean bythree bees 3 e S. I will, if the F_ath_er, Son, and H. Ghofl, be three hee9,tl1'enrtl1ey_ are three Perfons 3 but they are three hees. , . 8. Three things that may.be1po{mted at, the, arrdihe, andtlief, _ F_'.,.1..do.n0t like that argLlfl1€Dt;. , , , x S. I would Fain give you an a\=gum_ent— that you Ihould ;1ike,._;;i~c{ ou three.Pe1‘f()n3 };yho.dil”p,ute againfi me this day, or are y_ou;.not_? i F. Yeaswe are three Perefonstis plain. , L , 1 ‘ . S. C}ive me now any%argu_m€flC:fh3C Pl5.’3{€fl?o you to provie it 5f.._and , the very; fame hrgttrneilt Ilée prove that.there‘bC.Cht‘€C=PC;‘fO1,1$:ifiythe B ., T_ri mt y. F. We are . : g in three places and therefore three Per{'ons..i-A V i . S_. TheFather, Son, and H. Ghofi, have been 1n,th.ree.place.s, arid therefore are three Perfons. , At the baptifme of. Chrili while Jefus came up, the H. Ghofi camedowti; in the fame moment, one afcenr deal out of t_he water, the other defcended t.0.Cl1_e water, Mett. 3416,17. And je{11s.xvl1ex1 he was ba‘pitized,,w_,en,t:up fir2tig.l1tw_ay .011; of the war. , ter 5 and lot: the Heavens were opened unto _ him, and he (aw the H. t ‘ Spirit ofGod defcending like a Dove and lighting upon him. i Anclloe a voice from heavenfa) ing this ismy beloved Son in whom I am well epleafed. In this verfe is mention of God theFather in, Llieafven, God the Soncomi _ o1'xt.o_f_'_thew’ater,_and the H- Ghoft. ,d_efcending,pnf this fide Heaven like :1 Dove. — l i e - . i F. Prove there were three perfons. .. _ S. [do it thus, If Chrifi was cominf;1xp_ontof.the water while the H.,GhOfl.\ ascoming downto the Water, thenetheyr were in efefierall. frlacc s, but Chrift wasfcoming up out of the waters, while the I:I.Ghoft was coming down to the water. Thereifotve they; were .ii_1’['es{erall places. _ I . t. e , F. They have not flelh and bones as we have. % S, What then? 1 did not promifeto prove them to be mer-1, or you 3 tobe.Angels' or Gods 5 but them to be-Perfonsi like you c;nl.y_ in ~P€r- - . fouality. F. Perfons have fleih and blood asyou fee we have. . ~ .. t B 3, \ SS" 51 52 imrazasw .2—ng~p..2e:ee2.;?a'a *3‘: '()ial£éi§; ‘ S. I prove that all Perfons have not flelh and blood. lfGOd lhould ‘ {end this day three Angels from Heaven to prove the truth ofchiliiilfl fleligioii againli you, who deny it; and one of them {hould hand at one end-of your meeting houfe, another at the other end, and a third in the midi’: preaching, Would you not fay that thefe three Angels were three Perfons ? _Yet they have not flefh and blood. Speak, woul you fay they are three Perfous, or would you not 5 _ .Al1s‘7o9d mute, at length one of them faid that Angels are not Perrfoxzs. . S. Till me what youmeanbyaperfon and lle prove that Angels A are perfons. , . F. A perfon is_a fubfifience, Wevthree are three different ftififieiices. S. -So are the~Father, Son,’ and*H. Ghoft, if they were in different‘. _,places,th,ey rnufi needs be different fubfiliences. You fee my argument jfiantis tfirn1,notwithPtanding your 0lJiB&l'Ol1 I pafs to another argumfi 0‘- ?He whodenyes the Bible to be the word ofGod,faying that to alT6J'C i Scriptnretobe theword of God, is one of the deceitfull imaginations -which the Priefts of this generation‘ have deceived the People vwiths that man is an Heretick; but you deny th e*Bible . to be the word, afid tell Mr. Tonmfend that to aflert it,,isone of the deceitfull imaginatiolls which the Priefls of this generation have deceived the People with; Therefore you are an Heretick, fee here your own book, p. I.lin. I- 112 {read of anfwering tbir argument about the ward of God, they jlafted. Back to tbeformer about the Trinitie : and F ox faid - _ i -F. They ‘cannot b6 three Perfons becaufe they were not vifible 111 f6‘. zverall places, I can fee that man, and he can fee the other. 8. Ifchrifi was man, and the H.Gho1’t was in the form of a DOW?‘ p then they were both feen. F. Prove that they were teen in feverall places. S. Chrifi was feen when the PI. Ghofi was not feen: therefore tl1?Y ;both were teen in feverall places, one in the water, the other out 09”’ F. Prove that they were feen. ' J S. If many beheld them both, and this their feeing was upon 1'5‘ card ( WW6 fa W: and they who fee it bare record, and we know that 01“? record is true ) then they were feen. But many beheld them at ‘once 5 mid this their fight was upon record. ‘ F. The H. Gholi could not be leen. i e S, If he was in the form of a Dove, then he could be feen : but llfi was in the form of a Dove. ’ < t F. Not inthe form of a Dove, but he wasin the likenefs ofa DOV“ 7Vb¢’rc’at firme laug/n'ng,beea7zfwered again that he was feen‘, b}1l7‘PQc yifible. _:5,'. Then he wasvifiblc lancipliinvifible. ‘ 63’ ' v . -Qs_naker,and no Qgaker; a-Papifl and no.Papifi',i an Heretick and-" no t _ eMadaScholarziticambeidgélt 7 F. Yea. a T i S. Thencontra diftions maybe true at once, then you may be at I-Ieretick. Hereupon Alderman Blackly who is a r Qgakerfaid to I54. S. {*7 Ihinkftistime new to leave of.‘ s I \ 14 ~ ‘ S. I think fo too: when he faith contradiétions may be true atsonce; FL Ipray take notice all ofyontbat this Book [_ Ijbmaell and /ti: Ma- ther‘ can out] aboutwhich foimuchfiir hath been, was not writsby me but by this man, pointing,at.G;. Whitehead. s a _‘ “ -a . 3- True, but you-d'cfended‘it,.tI cameoto‘difpute—'him,ifII hadiknowtti Ofyourédifputingl wouldhavebrought oneof Yourfioolcs; s .. ‘ T E E N- D. a V l —-—\--j-1» . .i I 4 Letter % few to M E. of Ta t foyer m_zl‘e.rfrom Cam:-j« bridgcn Tearjince, to which zzaeznfnwrhatb " . J been retzmzecl. 35 ‘I . ‘hie: you had not fo mucli patience as to hear me t’ot‘hcr dayge. _ We ‘ noij would fiifferyour: daiightersi to tarry, l[nowt make ufe A _’ 1. of‘n1jifi1*{i‘li”o1ir of leafure to write to you part of that which 70“ might have heard’ me {peak then: Hoping t iat you. andithey ( ivhomI"]ook.on ashaving more breeding then a l- other his Audi- t tors thaflfaw will not believe him, whom l1is"”fi'ie.11ds enerall ‘call 3 3 n_ « the Tiiilger, upon his bare word; but like thofe noble Berezms, 1467: 17... I I‘. with :- wercro. A i 2- lg.-:iel's at the breeding of “mofiof his followers by this paffaget; One of the cliiefofthenf, viz. Daniel Angier (lwho invites him to that i own; entertains him in his h-oufe, lends him his Barn for a.n;eeti11g.[%;; PlaC€r)_twhen‘I,charged himin that place with‘ maintaining that God , was a-body, (viz. thathe had ihands',fcet:, a face, 8£c. like oneof us) - 5 fayiflgthat he contradifiede-.me in my Churchyard, after I had greacht the contrary from jobrz 4. 24. he told me plainly before all gbe people_.,,_ when he {aw his -Ring- leader T. would not clefci1dit,tl1at I {M13 where- asmy w.ho_le Parifh are ready to -witnefs the truth of what Ifaid. s 3. Buttothe purpofe,I the T. commanded me (though I defiredthe contrary) iliuvizjag iirli his falfe doélrine, and then prove,’tis a dangerous [in itishim-tcfpteacn (as. h€_d.id.ptlblikely, and in the people to hear him.. a 4!,’ "g1‘e..; eadi.ne[‘s of minde fearch the Slenriipture whether thofc things {hall in this paper follow CfilTL§i1E.l1l8E._il._O:.i'l'{Vii1l:Cil.3.>."_ Ltiféii Defeisreéftlaéi A _ 4. He {aid in his Semuiln aha’: Gig)?‘ would lay’ before us aththidalyg 0: Ittdfiflient 4b00l Ch?” 0ChC1'5 may be partakers of their Spiritualls : Others to Pl0Wa 21“? (“W9 alld h“‘i,mW the ground, and ufe other {awful} trades, working with,the1r hands the thmgthat e to give to ihinlthal “¢“‘l“‘l" ‘)1 Letter in Defence oftbe.Mz°zz£firj _ 23. Ibefcech you to lay‘afide.palli0{la2!1d confider fame day when you retire from yourworldly agagres, ‘whether it be.poflib'le, that that power‘which_atfour feveralltimes, upon Four feverall pocca_fions, our, Blelfed Saviour did mention and give tojthe Apoflles, C.)ltlCl‘.CXpllfC.Wit;l1 their perfons, Some things of great concernment he mentions bu‘t once ‘Ill all the /Scripture ( as upon What, heads chiefly we {hall be examined at -the day ofj udgment and the; f each that he will then mike lV[.¢t. 2;. 34,. )-And when he who was the _W1fdo:ueoi‘the Fa- ther, names athing not only four times, but upon four notable occafions, can youimagine that matter a trifle, and intended only for fame very few . year-32 Thelthing which I mean,is the power not only of preaching the Gofpiell, and pi adniiniflring the Sacraments, but alfo of remitting,and retainn_1gfins,_ which was mentioned by Chrifl. .1. Upon occafion of S 3. Peter: corifefliiig ,. him, promifing , ' and foretelling that he would enflate it upon the Apofiles Matt. 16.1 9.2ly. Upon .-any thought fit to be termed an Apoille till he had a fpeciall oecafion oi-‘exemplifying that neceliary truth, that the cheifend ofChri1ls com- ing into the World was to fave that which was loft, Matt. 18. 1 1. He {Peaks of y the infiitution ofthis power as evidently inf’crumentall to that defign, 3ly_ 1m- mediatel y before his final departure out ofthis_World,he enfiated them in;.;_ga11y in this ghoilly power fob. 2o. 21. 22. with fignificant ceremonies and, important circun1Ptances, fayin g, As my Father hath fent me,fo {end I. you. He breathed on them and faid,receive the H. Gholl. Lafily in1mediately~ after his Afce11tion,{cnd.. ing the great promife of his Father, Lul.-’\. 24. 49., Tis ab.fui'd3to think_,_‘that this power thus infified on by Chrift, thus glV€l1 towthe 1~\pofiles,* was to expire with their perfons 5 Cf peciall y confiderlng that at l1lS befiowing A on them, He Pmmi- fed to be with them, to the end of the World, Matt. 28. 2o. ' i i '26.l hope youl not wonder I mention this power which our Saviour gave his Minifiers of remitting and retaining fins; when [believe i this very Tinker ah rogates it to himfelf,as well as the power to preach. ‘F or inthe midft of our fore- mentioned difpute about his falfe do€’crines,"he breaking out into very many im- pertinent diverting que-[Hons ( as asking me Whenl was converted ? what “am the fignes ?) at length he demanded what were the particular fins which 1C(,{§; felled to Almighty God when I lafl received the body and blood of jefm Cbrgli > As if I were bound to confefle my private fins, not only to him'( when, as] told him,God_hath not made you my Confeffourjbut alfo to,.the meanefl of. all the vul- gar in the Country. b ‘ i p 2 1 2?. But to proceed. The Apoflle asks Rom. I0. 15. how {ban they Preach um es taey be fent ? He puts the quelhon, as if he (hould fay, , , , Wl t ' " wits can think It lawfull .? who that "hath read one lcafe CiChC1‘1aOf.lIiIi]1:nl;i;ly his Gofpell? * ' °‘ , 28. Confideiing the examplesnot only of Wage, and Fuzz,-,, under the Old Tefiament ,but in the New ofMattloz'as; who had been as well ai-< any man fijfe 3 ~ 2 witnefs of the Doétrine, and life,and miracles, of our B Saviour yet was 0 by ' 3 ' In it call to that office Aélt, 1. 23. 2 29. 21y. Con{ide1~ingthat}'ofepb firnamed Btzrflzbas, wasavf‘=~rvr:{'s to all this as well as Mezttlmzs , yet never exerclfed the pofilt,-(hi? itiioiéghic {gems the . Andagaizzfi L.y.rzma.-7;; Church of Chrifi efieerned him fit for it ) becaufe_he was not ordained . thereto c any more then many others’ who where educated in the fchole i ofChrill as well as the belt. i i e L ‘ ' go. gly. Confidering that the molt Blefled fefue himfelf, the only begotten i Son of God, often profell: that he camegniotp without being, fence 0. 17.8. 318. . Nor preachtany thing, but what he heard, nor did any aching, biitwhat he was commanded: and this in a time when there was confeffedl y very great neceflity of Reformation. And then with what face( other then brazen) can any man a a now juliifie the doing thefe things of hiaifelf, who neither pretends that he is { : the Sonof,Goel, nor yet that he feeth fuch a neceflity of Reformation. 31. Lafily conlidering thatinot onlygthofe Chriflcians who lived neerefi the. times of our Saviour ( who probably might knowniorc ofhis inflitution than tis poflible we at this diftance fhould ) but all fucceeding ages for I600, Years have hada Clergy and a difciplineg Certainly, Sir, We have fins as great as any of them, the old fins to mortifie ( I heartily wifh to God we had no new ones too, then unheard of ) and therefore certainly we Ptand in as ‘much need of Phyfici- ans as any of them did; of all the bleffed remedies and‘VWh0l¢f0n,1€ I11€di€iI1C‘5"a- gainft’ them, which our good God hathiippoiiited. f’ i _ y 32. Iniight padde nianyiother places‘ofScriptlure, as 2. Cor. 3.19. ‘God hath reconciled us to himfelf by Chrifl Jefusand given to us the Minifiery of recon. ciliation. Now then we are Embaflhdour: for Chrift. W herein] entreat you t0 Obferve that he faith, committed to us the miniftry ofrecoricilatiom hi’-I“‘~‘ Chm 33 an a_ppropriate Miniftry not icommonto all the vi'il"gar. "We are Embaffadours. '4 Tisil_i_niit”\ed to Tome few by vertue of icommillion. ’ cannot be Embaffadoiirs ‘ Tlie‘Chur'ch is a-body, and all cannot be earsé mieyesai 1- COL 12- 1+ 15~e15° o 33. But I nnift not omit the anfwer which your fri_entl made to, Rom. io. 15. hefaid he was fent by the Church of Chrifi at Be.dford‘f Fo which I replyed, 1.That,that which he called the Churchof Chrift at Bedford, could not (end hint, or give him power to preach, 8Lc.Becauf.enothing can give that which it ‘felt. hath not. That Church confifiing only of women. anda few Lay’-men is not in indeed aCh11rcli of Chriii 5 none of them hath power to prffach 01‘ flclmll‘-ifiel‘ the 53cm‘ men-ts, and therefore none of them can give the Tinker power to preach I11‘:/fl adminiller the Sacraments. ’ ' t _ 3+ 2- The Church of Antioch was ‘in all probability very numerous In tl10a'€ dayes when miracles were ordinary, and three thoufand were coiiv'erted*1ii one place at one fermon .- and‘ yet in allithe Scripture you (hall n‘ot"find by any ‘word, fllfi léali lign that thofe many people who‘ were thus converted at Antioch did Joyn together in Church-duties and ordinances ( as the Lords fiipper, which the primitive and belt Chriftians received every day A&. 2. 42.46. and the people or your Town have not defired, as I hear, thefe fourteen years ) untill Barnabas and Paul had*been with them. .¥When thefe two who were ordained Minilicrs of the word cai11e:in«:'0 tliem, then ( and not till then ) were the Lghrifiiaiis at Au- Izocb €c'I‘m.’Cl a s’_Liiiii~cli.,‘%8:. 1;. f'm'm‘_ the goth. verfe to the 27*. I 35 lcoiifc-f3’tis both lawful andlaiidable for private ()l11'Iiilal1S to €l1Ll~i”d‘V'O1|Vr the coiiveriiuii of any that be indeed Infidels or Llnbtlievers to the truth Ol‘Gtl1fc: 1: . ' i o - )1Lettarifl3efé}i2}‘af§b2‘27?2nzj?ryL , e _ Gofpel, or/co teach’ children orfervaints the Catechifmc,8cc. (and. if this Tinker had done no more, fiaid at Bealfdrd, and taught his Family the Lords Prayer, the Apoflles Creed, the‘Ten Commandments, and the Do&rine of the Sacraments, which things few of his” followers in thefe parts can endure to hear of : or if . he had followed 3- Paul: advice, 1 Tbefl 4. I’ I-ifllidied C0 be quietsgahd (10118 his OWH bufinefs, I lhould have nothing to have faid againli him‘? ’Tis lawful for private Chriftians to do what they can to convert Jews, or Tut 9: 01' H€‘!thmSa Or Athe- ifls, that is, to prepare {tones for the building of the Church ( as the ancient Ec- cleliafiical ltories tell us that F rumentiur and ,/Edefiuo“ did ill Imiitlg and the captive maid in Iberia) but after they be converted: 3fC's”F_Ch§Y 3“? baPti.Zled3;tQ,l111.lte thefe together and makeup a l9?uilding.,!:0. a1pTembletI1cmu.1ax_1 Ecclefiafiical bodiie, to ufurp the Pulpit and that\~po,weervS§IhiCh 011? tSi;lV10Ul‘ dllifilbu-Ce§l3,.WheQp he {aid All power is given to me both in Heaven andEarth,. go ye therefore and preach: This is fuch a piece of prefumption aswe read not in the A6}: of tbe.APo{He5 (nor in any other Eccleliaftical Rory that I«h’aVe feel?) that “Y Qfdfe P“mi‘3Y€Chfi' iiians were ever guilty of. But aillithis your T.-«hafh been glllliy 0f; and mlleh more. For he hath not only initruded into the:’l’l;}l£?1t5 11.1,_thefe,parts, andcaufed the people of your Town to hate their lawful Minifler, [_Mr. folm El[z‘sfen.'}, but ( as he toldme ) encouraged them to proceed to far as to cudgel him, and break « open the Church-doors by violence. I wonder what example or precept in the Scripturehe hath for this. When heehalih feadefliit. 3. 2-. I .dt‘-‘fife him to fee his doom, I Pet. 4. i5. where 'AMnet§i‘39“?F0c:‘.(—..Chal3_V1$ 011? Fhatr thrufis lllnifclf in $0 preach in another mans parifh agaiflfiphis cQ1,1f.e1_,1F 15 1TeCk0f1Cd. the~..H. Gholt among no honefter men then ,2. Thief aI1d,1_l Mlllidfiliel’-' This will bye 3 fad T535 for him, when the booksefhall be opened before himat the great judgementday. ' 36. And here I give you under my hand whatI profelled to the ’s face, that if I cou1d._fee any reafon to draw me out of the true a'11'Cl—€i‘lC Catholick and Ape)- flolick Church into which _I was baptized ("wheleofthe Church Of Englarzd is the foundefl part, as I am readyto fniakehappear pagaitxltthe Papifls, and all other new andold Schifmaticks and Hefetleks their Confederates) If I fay, I could fee any reafon to ‘draw me out of that Church into your Schifme, who encourage the Tinker to preach, I fee not whatfhould {lop me from running into the worlt Seft in the world; from beingan Anabaptilt, or Ranter, or Quaker‘, or Anti. ‘it, lawtul for _a Tiilker, fcripturifl, or what not. _ A .p . . A _ i t . 37 Give me leave to tell you afi01;ie,.( you pg.aveth,e:Tix1l:er leave to tell’ you feveral of things done at B.eaifard)T_is out of S.Axgz4{ti;ze's Notes on fob» 1.2,3.AZl zlmzgs were made by bim.S.Arz]iz';z faith,that a Manichee 8c another being troubled with Flies, and difputing, one of them faid,he thought that our good God could not be the Creator of ifuch troublefome Infe€’cs, Why then replied the other, who made the Bee which isfomewhat bigger, and hath a Ring ? He yielded that the Devil made it. Froma Bee they_:proceeded to a Locufl, from a Locufi to a Lizard, fo to a Bird, to a Sheep, to an.Oxe, to an Elephant, to a Man. And thus was the filly man deluded into a pcrfwafion that he himfelf was not Gods Crea- ture. Juli fuch a dreadful Conclufion do moft gfthefe people make, who think I T or a man not orclaine * . ~ and zgiiaz Lay-Préarbefsl to pull clown the Churchw.allsto mend the High wayes ? ( you know. WhO,dc'C firedit.) To take the Bells out of the Steeple, and carry them in Butter-panniers A - t0.Loiza!m, and fell them, you know who did it.) Do they not.‘ cry that Sacg.a_ .1I1€11.tS are needlcfs, meer empty Ceremonies? Preaching F oolifl-mefs ? pm] and Bzzrmzbm, the fons of the Prophets, Bablers? Are they not ready to cry down Faith f0I“’<1 fancy ? All Clergie-men as Limbs of Anticlirifc? Devotion as an gileagctilatzng l'.1‘1Ci‘( of 1yI.rzcbz'zz_z/e1.’ In a wordif thefe men may prevail, d-own go Go }:;3‘rsP:is wel as BIHLQPS, uI11V€rfi[lCSl,l Schools, Hofpitals, _“AIl thoughts of am. C:::*.:‘;::»:°pi];:0‘9Z.°.:;d= ,,:,:‘:: tom ?‘*;:ir:r“* .3? hireline in the Tow ' ‘°llii Ph yak . g l d . ~ km‘ t 6 POOR _ p 3 _ 11 W1 oon ave as much an as you, or your Heir. For inm Vs'r'1ll’Cll1‘l1 from being an orderly Common-wealth to be a rComtnunity of Bears Tygers, to delight in tearing and devouring each other 5 from living in civil Converfation, they come to joyn hands. in that grand piracy, wherein the. fi_1’011ger {wallow up the weaker, upon no other pretence of right or reafonima-- guiable, but becaufe they are the Iironger : faying ‘With tl1eAthei!ts, Wifd.2. I i. w:;‘t_bfirengtb 25 in the [rzwo fufitce, tmdytbzzet winch 25 feeble 14 found to ‘be nothing i 41-. But I fee thaispaper {wells above the ordinary extent of a letter and there— f°T°I [hall draw to a conclufion, when I have {poke to one particular, which is the’c0I1-“D011 talk of this County, viz. That one of your daughters. being trou- A Cd inmind you fent for this Tinker to quiet her confcience. 42. Sr. 1 know you are a man offo much p‘rudence,t-phatif her or your tempo»- raulife were {hakenwith a palfy, or the title to a. iarcell of your vifible eilate ‘lllefiioncd by fome potent-man; you would not t ink it enough to employ a elm“? Atturney or an ordinary Agent,or fend for fome country dame to admi- “lfier her kitchin phyfick, but the ableit counfellors and the skilfiilleit Doétors Ollld be potted to, and exceeding much warinef s and diligentattendancesmade “ff: of: andallthong-htilittle enough. For truly ainans” life. and health, and Ometimes his efiate is worth all this : and in fome cafesit needs it all. But then, _ Cfeech you, do you beleeve your immortall foul for which Jefus laid down “3 recious bloud ) the only trifile and toy about you ? Are there not a thou- ‘ml ‘dangers, anda million ofdifliculties and imuimerable pofiibilities of mar... Carriage 2 And how then comes it to pafle that you think a -Tinker or mean ib... '10r.ant perfon can fervehere ? If a man or: woman, be, lick faith St. }'ames 5. 14,. Ct him fend for the Presbyters ofxthe Church and let them pray over him. ’Tis ueedfull Certainly to have fuch guides (St. jams knew which were beftj to fieer t -F Veffell when a fiormy pailion. or a violent imagination ( def pair or prefiiniw Ptlon) tranfport ayman, to awaken his reafon, and quicken his devotion. i 133- Afldetrue-ly confidering how like beafis of the heard, men, bot_hoFliigl1.ai1d me! d°§:’T€€' d.0°llVC‘ in this agc,tis but reafon thatthere ihould be a deal of r‘et1re- ‘t arid, initiation, indufiry and infiru€’tion to educate futh a p€1‘f011a €0f=im<3 the beafl: within him, to fubjucate his lower foul, to enlighten his naturall and to €1€m._hi§ eyefight that he may have a plain pro- I “actuate his fpirituall powers, H‘ in O . .- ,,.i.L1n v'1vl\l’ — iilfy ~ he l‘€‘gl,l:1"; ~ 9.1 Letter in Defcizce oftbé Minifhfy, 'ties—above to inl’cru8c his underfcanding and judgment that he may be able te re- folve the many_abih~uce and intricate cafes of confcience, to confute the infinite \ company of impudent hereticks and ‘gainfayers ( which St. Paul notwithflanding ,your anger looks upon as the preachers duty T2't.1.9.) to prepare him for fohigh and dilficult an employment. t i a 4,4. Iwouldnow ufe fome arguments drawn from reafon and common fenfe to prove tis u-nlawfull for this Tinker to preach; but fuppofing that you believe Scriptures to be the word of God, I think fuch arguments needlefs. I 45'jRemember that he who commits ferobozzmx fin,doth julily incur jerobozzmr punifhment, and to hear fuch a perfon as ferobeam let up, is to commit _7€1‘.‘05o¢m5 tin : For if fuch men had no hearers, no applauders, they would foon lay preach- ing afide; To hear him then is to partake of his fin , which the— Apofile bids us beware ofRev.18. 4. Ep/:1. 3. 7. BefideS,he that hears fuch throwes his Soul unne-r ceflarily upon temptations and out of the promife of Gods bleflings, for no blef- ing is promifed to any,but while he is doing that which God commands: now he commands us to hear our Sheepheards _7o.1o. 1. to hear Mafes and the Prophets, Matt. 16.31. and thofe that fit in Mofes chair, Matt‘. 23. 3. But never commanded us to hear the loweli of the people, or men not ordained. To this I might add that the flock muff be under an overfight. A6}. 18. 23.- 2o. 28. 1 Pet. 5. 2. 1 The-f.5. 2 12. I-1eb.13.17. 24. A mans own pafior hath a more fpeciall difpenfation ‘of the grace of God,Epb.3.2.and a pafiors more efpecial tye to his flock than another, -argues that they are more efpecially tyed to him. He is appointed to feed ‘them; they therefore to hear him. . T A 46. lfhall commend you tothe work of Gods grace whenl have entreated you to confider the words of our Saviour, fobxz. 1o. '3. the {heep of Chrili will not hear the voice of a liranger, but will fly from him. The fheep here, are thofe wholhallltand at the right hand ofjefus in the day of judgment, MzZt.2S. .33. ( as the T. confefled when It urged this text againft him ) And that by .7 firangeris meant an intruder into the facerdotall ofhce appears by comparing this place with, Nam. 16. 4.0-1. 51~3. 10-18. '7. And with other texts where this word is interpreted to be one that is not a Lcaite one not ordein’d by impo- fition of hands as the Preachers were, not only in the firfi and beli times of Chri- ii-ianity, 1. Tim. 4 15-3'. 22-2. 22-3. 10. 6. I3. 14. 2. Tim. 1. 6. Tit. 1. 5. butalfo ever fince, in all places all ages till this. 47 And now, Sit -let me heleech you for-_Gods fnl