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H; —‘ ‘L ‘f'_ < = Av1ngbeen;a:l3y§;*QEa%nder,and obfervmgefo weieix . ‘ Icould,ehd;§r.§,'§§i§ great garnehath bcenc « . 2 e played on bothfgangis, T between the “ King ahd *P3r1i3m¢nt= I 55.Zéé'wondredw to fin1"i(corifi~ 1 1 e dc:ing,th¢ .D.€C1a3mL3¥£s,ou both '['aat"ts)”:I§3c Y; e -witlfgreat cxpehéetoftime and money they .?€f§’§i%ve1ixade aflhifc to argue ehemfelves into a Civ‘-i11warre.And , wondAe_:eis‘no'lefl'c to hearc@thc varietiegf o yinionse;-% {dine « % i7 5 his Majeflies'proeeedings,fome the 13a: iaméntsganid %;fomé9~=Efl3¥ming th=t*th¢;’{thing in "variance belongs toeeneizhéx, " {A e 5- 4. H ' » V . LA ' . (divided. \ (8) ’ divided from the other : For (fay-* they) it is butwho (hall rule: Arbitrarily,in cafes to which the Law hath not fully,-~01‘ not at s all extended ; which the K§r1g;ea.ls=hisPrerogative, th9~,P’arlia-e mertt(as.matters-noaweli’and)'theirs., . t H p Totteke the better view of the pt-client difierences, looke at little way backe upon the at‘/{ions of precedent times. It hat , been the geuerall beliefe of this Nation (uponr-lwhate. L - - cannot judge) that the defigne of his Majeflieslate Fa-ther Kt‘ .2 s lame: was to wynde up this Government to the hei'ght"oE' France, the better to hold; cortefpondencewith:Forraignffiin- ces, whofe power: increafinge their riches, and both tr gether‘ theirtreputation, it. was: {heme to be leftbehinde, bwt finding; the times avetfe,,and being.tthe;be{’t Aflrologer in the world: 4 “ what the fucceffe fhould be ofhis.ow:ne~A«&ions,,he betooke “ flies perfonall‘promife s,, and. atiopiniomt thatthis befl ‘r'eI7t>l;uti- - , eonfequently. that his Aélions were not his owzae whsiclit» opi- the Dria;ces,or to the people of this Kingdome :;. For the Nation» . infblencies intheire Princes fo= much asdeFe&s~,‘rapes, murthers,.,_ himfelfiz. to» the fatisfaéft-ions ofhis=«age~which'he could‘~acq,uire,, and left the complement ofthis to his Majefiie that now is, in A whofe perfon were concurrent a title induhitable, fcttlfid by a. fucceflion, and the a&ivitie and glory that is infeparable to-.. youth, and the frefh afllumptiont to the Throne of three King,-» domes.. l “ firfldifliolved P’arlia=rnent* ("to Humble at the firfi Rep)? ‘ feemldrominousto fome, others toolee it for a tryall, and in purfuanceoFthe.defigne... And the ratherforthat (his Maje- flies Ptoteflations-zero governe by the I;awes,and hislate anfwec to the petitionof Right nottwithflandingfi he exaétion ofLoane moneyr immediately; following; the ere6’tion.». of Mbnopolies, andthe forcible takinghof the Subfidie.oftTunnage and P’otin-. ; dage,,begate an univerfallthflidence in the people ‘of? his Maje- ons were eafilyrjoverthtowne by the cottn{'ell;o£jt>the1-,s, and fa» * nion true or. t'.alfe,_when—.ever: it got heliefe, hath proved fa tall tow» hethh-ated to be govt-med by many_,:Vicetoy,es-,and: refents no» andpartiwlaroedepredations, beingmore tol-lei-able, whenthe vzctmes.of the Kinglypoffice heve ahappie influence tandlatitude: - Z uppm 25%‘ . in llpOr|;tl1E.Wi1o'lc bodie ofche 'ommon-wealth.‘ And yet to fpeakea truth thefame argumentgthat aggrayatesthe violati- ons in Government may he a teafonable excufi: For his Ma je {lie (and the fame that the reverence of the Englilh Nation to their Princes hath ever ufed) thofe 3&3 of iniuflice were not the Kings but hisMin'l{l'ers‘t for what (‘other opinion could the iKingtetaine,thenwhaft the Iuidges 'delivelred ’f'o‘r Law, and the 3 1-, Divtnes fo‘t'Gofpel; for thefc had made a'gCnCl'£llidCfil‘litiOD of aKing, and applyed it to all Ptincesyand thoie had ‘made a ge- to t-he will and pleafute of thofe Princes‘: and Pl5'ein‘g”mindflill of theirlowne iuterefl, and how much 'it‘ConCCrn'e”d "them to make that King ablblute, whom theytihad hope ahfolutely totnle; they would needs make a Kinigibly "St“ajnd_e‘rd “outiof Gods Word ;€'i1at* his Subieéls might {laves‘"Fot"(Ionl'ciei1ce’if'a lte : And by examples taken from the Ki'n‘g“d omeofthe lewes,‘ the y invefled-him withpower effentiall to ‘h“is”Oflite,“to Me at plea- ,fure the petfons, or. eflates_toFhhis’lhibie&sr; 'of‘a'divine'in'fiituti- T on, incomptehenfible’ by law‘es,’iF n‘ecelTitie‘re’qtiire ajvatiation and under heaven rid othetiludgeovf that necelhtie be’fidesl”him- s felfe:-And having placed himfin theranke o‘f“Ci3oids;gave'him the like ElC&iOn,t0‘ govetne the world by-‘fe“contlr2fatiifes,t the fit olficers ofnatureptby miraélésahél vvondersgeifcéfs of his im- mediate interpofition. ; ibyitheg gt‘and'Couc1ce'ls,ludgcs, and in,- feriour Miniflcrs ofthe.‘ Lewes; or by ‘Patents with mm aé/r'miu A u:,Proclaxhations,‘and a divine Prerogative. But to fay a truth ‘hisMaieHic * hath of'late‘admitted a better information of this fm:mnetjofi‘Governm'ent.; ‘And hath given many ,MTt_1tanccs by zProte'llation‘to‘innovate-nothing, yet this fazisfies not,and -he r<‘aFon‘-wotildsbeexamined; As alfo what A ChOfC.i(flfl:lCU'iE queflxonssargwhereof ‘-the Twotd mull ‘needs make the refolutiona l :1: he ill fatvisfacition t»he‘tpeqple't“receive, notwithllanriing the Kings mightiC¥PfOtCliati(iI)S‘fdjgovern bythei I.'a.v\.!CS,t0l defend I . nerall day ofiudgemcnt upon all the Lawes,“an’d Tnhdued them «the Ptoteliant"RclitgionfiPr1vilec}gesrofParli:;mcnt,&t. l'pti:wgs. out otithis lealoufie, that il’;l£‘C()rli€’illtO his Maiellies fpov.-‘er to -doe otherwifc,hc will do fo. ‘For who can thmke»(lay they) Q N A 2. « having ‘$3 2% {J ;:~"‘> t .,»‘-'r?'-‘ I .4. . T 2 pt: I ,3 (4.) h,,,'mg.,rlte fame rnaxitnes in his mind, andthe fame councell in his eare,that he hath had, that he will doe otherwife then he i hath done : That he willafter the mine of this Parliamengre-L ii fufe the fruition ofthat, which hath coll fo much labour, when l the danger is paffed: who will beleeve he will have recour-fe. for ayde and advicoto Parliaments,when he {hall remember to what fad exigentshe hath been redticedb y /them(.whereof' tl1at-- hjmfelfe was anypart of the cattle {hall be hidefronn his eyes) -/“"""how avetfe they are in their compofitionfrom the» Genimof . the Court, how apt to be miffe-led by a few, how unfit coun- cellours in matters out of their ufuall cognizance, wanting abili- ties to advife,and modeflie to be filent, how flowand lingering _the remedies are for the maladies of the Common-wealth : who i will not.thinl<-chow much better lEa;lS for the King (if he can) to fatisfiethe people upon the wordseofa K+ing,,on the word of a Gentlernan,rhat their grievances {hall be remedied -as well without. a Parliament? who will not belcevc he will rather a ehufe to be thefathero-F a Militia of his ownc,Who receiving theirlivelihood out of his Coffers, {hall helpto fill them; by whole hands he {hall have power. to mow the fertill meadowes of Britain as often inta Summer as he pleafeth. And what {hall hinder? the Law?no; there fhall be the fame imminent necefi fitie thatwas pretended before, and there {hall not want both. , i Divines and Lawyers, that {hall lay the King and his private Councellare {ole Iudges o€that«neceflitie,..fhall the Kings Pro. V miles and Protefiations hindcr?Ir cannot tell-, it—-maybe lb, Ilwifh thepeople of this . Kingdomehad fuch confidence in his Maiefiies perfonall promifies: but ifithe King cannot himfelfe tell, if no King not private man can tell, how his Councel-s and re folutions may change, when the flateand condition wherein he madethem is changed : .-if humane nature -eafily relapfe to thofe things that it loves, and if the refumption of fuch illegall power, fuggell not onelythe fwectnelfe ofriehes and Domini- on, butby falfe argumentscomes apparelled withneceflitie of the kinggloes prefervation,‘ I know not whether naked’ words fubiefi to {'0 much varietie ofconfirutfiion. willbe offotceto tefiatfogreat temptations. Harem! ._‘k V i .3 i <5-) Hamel beingbat a private perfon thought himfelfe mtich‘?= ~ injur?d~ when the Prophet made that cruell Charafier of his Fun-2 - ture behaviou (perh foreif r, zfmladagfi yet he was to dogged, and few to aps) that knew him would ever have thought it. Theret. his Maieflie will havethofe promifes.beleev’d, ‘let hirn?--« \ ‘ ‘ not appatantly go about to place himfelfe in fueh 2 conditions i that he may bteake themat his pleafureaat : , ' ;q I know the Allegations for themanner ofhisMajefiies pie... .- fefnt p rogative ( the-pteiud trufied by G roceedings are , firllt-the jufi vindication of his roya.1lPge_ : whereof it is pretended violation hath been made to 9; ‘ * * ice of himfelfe and the people) and Whcrewith 11¢ is od ; which ttufi he may not de{'ert,for’Gods‘fake_, .. l his owne,and the peoples, - For the Prerogative of Princes (fo much talked of, and lo ~ little knowne) it may in briefe be «faid,Thatall-Princes-haven gain’d Dominion by force, or by abargaine, ( Eor to-fay chat. .dd4m,'1lhe had livedvto this time hadtbeen King of the whole- world, and the ple, his natutall ted to flatter Princes, . fo tefore the King is firfi in order beforethe apeo-~ fitiveiv -: ..q v—,= -(=5- 9-I! l~9~}:\-9-v-.4-'~r.—. hich theLawes have not yetextended ; ifs» _ ‘ -.‘.~,¢._:=.-grv-pr,-. .,..: here tlrte-»Lawe_s are pas » ~ 21:’ ‘ (5) fitirvethe "P1’Cl'C_Yg_3tlVCClait‘n€S“nQ jurifdié’cion'. The corruptions? oi°Princes, and the extrav-agancie-s of-the people occafioned ’ Lawes, for bounds and limits to both : and it is a thing out of all quc-{lion,that the firPc’contra8t-would haye left no Preroga. tive atfall; if all future needs and inconveniencies of the Go- vernmentcould «at oneiventirc view have been prefented to the ‘ people; but that being-impoflible, the dilfcrction of'all._com. men-'-lwealths meeting intheir reprefentative bodies, have gi- Wven aiflophy Lawes to the_progreITe of an y inconvenience as it hath been temergent. ?His*‘Maiefl;ic;complaine$ tl1at'hc is diveflecl o‘Fh~is 1-iICg3.i“..P1.'Ci-5 ’ sirogative. hat,ris,« he istlenyeid t-hepower to execute the Lawes, with h.is.owne lence and expofitioniuponsthem : And the Lords ;an_d,Commo'ns in Parliament pray to have reduced into a Law that Arbitrary power which heihath .oFcuHome exercifed, in ” ,:things''toi=whichithe Lawesdoe not fully extend t or to fpeake fl'IOt'tCt’, they are inotwilling to trufi him any longer withta power undrfirfdy,whichtheyhave found -?llTlPl0yC'd go their gharme; but'.defire.to ~l1‘ZlV€:lt.Cl'Cfin€.d’ andzlimited; that for-the: time to}come,.it may tbeéfoi no more; And this they expeéitfrom his Maiellie as afidutie ofjhis office to t‘-heipeople, who if they are incapable ;ol"-.i’:.cafo n,oF.flate,syet~a-re:not+:incompetent Judges of what.tisy‘good,:for,themfelves; .-unlelfe we {hall maintain: the Arguments of ;-*F~ram‘e in,Englm:d, and to the fame end ; That .the&.pieq'ple§anre allto-gather ignorant of their ownewcl=f’are,*Tha:' i the-jKingionelyiknoweé-it; Tha-tit is befl with: an implicizc faith to tru‘{’t;hirri,_yan«d his,Armie,—aVn‘d Councell,wit‘h theifaidie of the .Comn[m->n—‘ WC-alth, and every mans-‘life and eflate, That; when France is free from feareof forraigne enetmics,;;h¢-_fub_ i , ic”é»~beFore*?t ' their profit §’_-. ifthre y clidrnot fhame leffe to phi-clt“ l0Cl<—€’.S4;p0Cl€Cts,.. and their fubie;€tsepturfe"s,than to fay3IthaHk¢‘.ypu ;..ifrhey did; not chufe rather by; force to iufiihe ininfiicesr, tap_'tne‘f and-fop- . psellionp than . to have any aéhons 0f"tl‘l_C1_I1f:ElYcs or m‘rr:ifi'ets;; @alledv.b3;fuchinames,fioubtlclle in a fl10§_t\l'.l,_mC the gcoulclf mt»: clileriéa ‘ ( 8 ) f 35 chudfe but arrive at an almofl abfolute dominion. For the argue‘. <' f ments ufed to divert from honefi accommodations with the people,do not appeare to me that ever they were intertaitfd by thofe Heroick Princes that have fill’d the flories of all ages with their high and excellent glories, but by fome of'narrow~and. ll‘-2-/“ "‘ imited qualifications for government, one argument is,’That if , the fame wayes of munificence and bountie by which fame Princes have ingratiated themlelves, {hould for fome defcents ofiflrinces be purfued, the Crowne,regall Authoritie, and reve- r e ‘ . I 1 out: would be. deflroyed, and nothing left whereby to oblige _the_people or wherein tobeliberall.’1'is true,indiii:reet profu- * tion‘ hath confumed many,Prir1ces(and that is indifcreet that is rfiifimployed and lofi).it never avail’d‘( th at I have heard) to the advancement ofany, nor doth it extend much further than the Kings chamber; not is it any Motive ofaffefiion in the people to heare thatthe King is liberall of his putie to his-‘fervants and ‘Favourites. A Princes bountie {hines in a little I'pheare,ifcom- pared with the peoples, as his eflate is fmall, compared with ‘the revenue of the whole Commomwealtb; His liberalitie cannot extendto allhis fubieéis, theirs may to him; it is not that vertue that exaltshim in the opinion ofthe people. And yet it is a liberalitie, butnotconfumptive to his eflate, nor deflru-; 3 A ' éiive to his authoritie, but accumulative to both,Liberalitie of ]uflicc,whereoF the impartiali diflribution hath rayfed princes into theranke ofGods. And I am verily perfwaded if there‘ fhould fall out to be {'0 happie a race of Princes , who depofing all particular interefls, Fhould advance onely pnblique Jufiice and utilitie; The Armes, traflique , and tranquillitie of their people, the hononr,indu{lrie,'and fpirit of the nations under p their command; that in a few.def'cents they would become abfolute, and ‘clearely acquitted from all obligation" to”Lawes, or atleafi the execution would be fo long intermitted that with much diflicultie they W.euld~ever come in Force, and the reflitu.‘ tion feeme as greatan innovation, as of late hath been thought ._of Lewes in Force.long.;layed afide For want of ufe; And in the times offujch Princeswe heare no talke of’ prerogative, or liber- tigathe one isfitrrendred to the will of the prince; the other " i i s imployed (9) 7‘ . r adeaiiragepofithe people, and itisan infallihler ‘ . ‘ ''‘fignéydF‘great difiempers in government when fuch difputes 'ari.fi:. ' " ' it To conclude the VPrerogative~ is a trufl which f(becaul'e no neceflitie in the perfon,or body politick,where the Sovereignty re (ides : And it istrue the,King is trufled by God with this Pre-. togative,asral in authority are in their degree to difcharge them- e {elves pioufly towards him, honeflty to thofe under their com - —man_d: He is alfo trulied by his Subjefis, who do not lay, they may tefume their power upon breach oftrufi, but fay, they oughtinot to be deniedlwhen they defire thofe breaches to be P repaired and better fortified for time to come, and the trufl ex- emplified into alaw as occalion {hall require : Norris it reafo- ‘nable for any Prince intheworld to fay,I have been trufiedgat if I or my Miniflers have not in rhefe and thefe particulars well a difcharged that truG,yeI'. we wil be ttufled fiill,and you flrall be. ieevethat matters {hall be better hereafter. t L .. y Whatthe priviledges of Parliament are , is another great queflion, if under that rearme be comprifed the King, the‘ Lords and Comnions, the queliion may be betterymade, what is"not _with-inthe power and priviledge ofParliame’npt, For’tis on all hands confeffed that the common-wealth may‘ difpofe of it felfe; but iF the King be divided from ChCm,_What are then privlidges? truly none at all, if they cannot make a temporary rovifion to faue themfelves Without the Kings licence; For take away {'afety,and privledge is gon; If they be laafeyyerpifiit be better knowne to their adverfaries then themlelvegand that the continuancc be at difctetion and good pleafure of another, if any be a more competent } udge of their fafety then themyfelves rheyhavfeno priviledgeatallfay vehat they will, Nor can it Pofiible be that both houfes have power to prefetve the body ofrhe Kingdom which they reprelent,if there notberantinherent. ¢{f¢n:ial‘l and underiyed authority in that allembyto rprefcrve jg f¢1fe(t’is.granted in the Princes minority, abfence or incapalii-P: fig go governe, the power to preferve and providefor the Rate, gas in the great counfitllg, and their .diligates, 'dourle_li”e{rhr: 7 " ‘ ' ' B 7 V.-cafe iI.a’wes are large enough to meet with all accedenrs) refides of ‘ (10) cafe isihe fame, if it be on like mannerygtanted the-t: [hC\\Pripc¢ isjdivided ftorzi the body of his people by evill counf'ell(to prove iEtbe counfell be good or bad, examine the leg -Illtlc, itappcaygs in his Majefiies exipreffes: and that ofmofl remaike,is to declare law (which beitngdenled to the geeatocouofell, mnfls needs be taken to refide‘in'.t~he‘King%andyhis privie counfeli) Toihavethe ‘fo‘le: ma.n:agir§g,oF 'theArmesof the Kingdome. And upon mif- Prifion of treafon to feqtueiier Members of Parliament to rryall t in inferior Courts. If this counfell be legall t’is good. If his Ma. ieliie were admitted the befl Lawyer in the Kingdom: Yctif,‘ the la gees bft;his.’I+(i'ngd'omh;1ve refetved the expofition ofthcm. . tfelves to the La‘w'gn’ia.lt'e‘ris and not to the King the advife, to ap— lptopriate that power to himfelfe is not good, that they have i done lb,‘ p1€fidéiiIS“al'C not wanting where “the Judgesihave i humbly praidi both houies to deliver their {ence of a doubtfull law, lftthefe commifiions of Array and breach ofptiviletigcs be 'dcclaredilleg5l them that have onely power to declare law in dubious cai”es,th.e‘n the advife by which they were done is not y good,ye't concerning this; fcruple of declaring law; It’str_ue»the I?’-_arliom.ient ‘c3nnot.decla'réth;t:to. byctlavv whichyis not: They’ ieainiiéot‘ decl'a_rfe it to" be the ‘law ofthe land that my brother at ffecoiiid venter {hall irsher-,rti my lair befotestny kinfeman ten de. l g!'€CS.y_OH"v;ti'I0ligh'it:l11t were gteattreafon, but they can declare it there refisnopoweri by vertue ofany trufi intany perform to convert i_he forces of _th.ie Kingdom tothe tdelituifitotir ofit {'¢1f__i _ Arid they to; y_.‘Cl¢_Cl:lr¢~iE‘i I..cg.al11to flop the adjrenties and ap; jptoches to fuch power"iFitbe‘:sttempted5His Majeflie may at-.7 *.,fay,A_rme land*commair.d‘ histfubieéis» againfl the.French‘ and Sp.aniard,;not,therefore toy fightione ;gainfl'an0tther,'He ma « Am? YS.AI:p1C,‘filid ?cc,niiman_d_them to fuppreffe Rebels fo leg.g}'gy: declaired, n’o:iIi:he;¢£o:e toioppflrefie the Patliament,_thefe are not very confeqtrentgtot a reafona bled man. .. It is not ftrangey not are the examples rare to find how much ~ Princesniayjbe. mtliaken in their councellors friends and em- 1 mie-5; For.-howahatdlygcan that man be;.thoughtan. cnemie-who. Iiudies nothing iomucheas to enlarge the power,‘ and advance * y the profit ofhis Prince, Yet the abundant fersices of fame. have ~ KDOIG ." .L:: , ‘*1 ‘ ' 7 #7 V ‘ ~more'mi{Ehiefetotheir Mafler.s}rhan'forraign arrnsor eombina. (II) I tion ever cou1d,W as it not.také' for good fervice to invent a new reyenue ofzooooo. . per armmmto fupply the vvafied tents of ‘ the Ctown.And wouldnbt he have been sgémed rather a fool than no friend to the Kings profit that ha? vifed to lay that down after it was once or twice paid. Yet in his Majeflies own Iudgement that tax had better never been. And it had never beeniftheadvife had never been. And the "ad-vife h~ad..never A been;ot not been ‘pernitious; IF the Kinghad received the fame _ from the greater councel as he did then from the lefl'e.I am ofo- pinion though it rain not in Egypt,yet the inundations of Nilm are caufed by rayne in another region. And‘ the black Clouds that hung over‘ Scotland and their troubiedwatetsrmadethetia think: it rainedtfomewhere, and provide For the Gorm, for it doubtleffe if the motion to abfolute dominion and mine of all. . lawes, had notbten fo'viii_ble~and fwift in England as it was; V_ '_I_‘he new Service book, never broughtfo many thoufands‘ Sco-ts.overTwee_d.- e We rnaythen conciudeuponerhe-whole matter; Thatthat ~ phyficke was not good that brought the body of the Com- mon-wealth into fo great dtflemper ; That the people though a moveable bodie like the Ocean, yet hcvcr {Well but when blown upon by intemperatewinde§*Tb,zt that councell which hath caufedrhe King to Rake‘ his Cr-owner, and the kingdomes their faFetie,now the thirdltime ; That hath contefied with the great Councell for precedencie in the Kings Judgement", and t hath obtained it ;" That broke the lat’! Parliament by the King, andwould breake this by the Kingdorne: b Is not got: d for us, not For thofe difcteet Gentlemen (ifthey underfiood their own a interefi) that labour fo much to fupport it. But that in every cafe wherein the generall Rate of the Kingdomeis concerned, V the adxitft: that the bodie of the Kingdom: Igivegupon aview‘ ‘ta-kenof it feife is not rontylearfi er-rronioust, ;but"by. the Law not pre{'um’d to erre. r ‘Neither can the fuggefiions made againftthis'Parliament it - (indiifolyuble butby cO,n.{'et1t)eany.;way avaiie to countenancea tbrclhiye di{T01__j.'i!i9;§1,."That,1 -they thaizee too _ much handled the B2 fi.:’=¢'¢'crs V _ t (111) 3 flowers of the Crownegthofe that adorne the perl'on,if'not ‘com. imw_¢_¢ the oflice of the King,-,That they goe aboutto ereél a new Atifiocraticall Governement, or rather aTyrannicall of ego: ’ '6oo.That this Alf T sly is nopParliari1ent, his Majeflie ‘diifens sing; That the A r part of both if-Ioufcs are gone to the K'mg,or have left the refi, the remnant are a Faéiion. To the fitlt it is anfwered before; that thofe rights of the Crown: which are by the pofitivet and eiiptrefle Lawes of thc ‘T Landa'vefled inthe King‘.toeufi:s',are not quefiioned; except if,‘ tale whereit is manifefl that the ufes have been perverted; And ’ in that cafe no more is required but that the breaches be repai. red, and that the influencesof his.Majeliies Government may : be tranfinitted unto the people by better Mediflrn:,t W hitch jg . no prejudice ‘to’ his Majeflie, unlefl‘eh'c imagine that he ought not to grant it, becaufie it is defired; That he is bound to relieve the people, butnot at the peoples requefl. We willtake it for l grantedthat inany caie it onely appettaines to our Soveraignc ~ Lord the King to defend wearing of Ames , Tlieufe ofihjs power veiled in his Majeflieis forfdefence of himfclFellsan.dr fubjeéis, and can have no other intendmentby Law and tees Rm-3-abut fuppofeby eviil Couneell that may be abouta Prince ~ (by his own: unwife Eleéiion, or Gods appointment when he gives Princes bald ' Coundellours, or‘ people bad Princes for fcourges to wanton and corrupted Nations;)‘~this powerisim; iployd to divide the Kingdome againfi it (Elie, one.Fa&ion 12-cs A this/powerlodged: in the perfon of the Prince, but never obs. die-rves to what end, fo fides with him. ‘Another infifl upon the l “end for which he was trufled,and defend tihemfelves by Arms‘; . Faéiionbegets Civill warre :' Civill watre diiflblvesi the preiim rGoyernment;-- After followesa forraigne yoke,if'our neighg- a bout Nationsbe not fat} aifleepe, or-otherwife imploycd; V 1}‘, thisexpe&;ation,l-_and in‘ the ‘very minutei 'v’vh‘en this ’ir.ximin‘em: .tempeflisbre-aking.upon our heads;that-rcpreientative bodie A ofthe Kingdome proiirates it felfe at his Ma jeflies feet; and be; {etch him to change (not the Government)?‘but a few firbor- s . dinate Govetnours, that he. will flaine upon his people through tranfgarant ando.unbl.etnilh|ed ehryflall !gla'fl‘es ,- not tl1tough‘_ Sanguine!’ , <13)‘ . S’anguine‘,Murreyi,pan'ci‘Azure; .which»maIt’e the Ayre add ()5... beheld to fcemebloodie, and blue ;. Aflhring him rim-C ‘,3. no other way to ‘calme the Seas that begin to rage,and to prc. ferve from wrackthe {hip ofthc Common-wealth wherein his Majeflie is himfelfe imbarqued,and is the greatefl Adventurer . Now come in the- malignant»Couneelloutgand teil his Maicflj; that thefe humble Supplications will (-.it he yeeld to them) mm: to Iniunflionsr Eafe them and doetthem right C[‘ay'th¢y.)‘ ibutnotattherequefl;oE'Parliament;; which ‘ig~nojkg{f-'c‘ then. p to place him in a condition to doe what he {hall thinketo be right; Th'atis,whathe~ {hall be advifedby-2 themis right ;.~T}m is (grnmanyttcafis) éwhae ambition, hatred,‘ covetoulhefié, lug“, « e riie,lechetie,fu‘ggefl cdibti right’: That .is,tflat>tyrannie,tnore«ab- - .folutethantheTntks.-e;= * V - r e i ». - For-the Introdufiion of a-> new form: of Government, the‘ Atgumentsate, that if the Parliament draw to it {die the ]u-- rifdifiion of the maritime andland forces, the Pow“ to name. i Gouneellouts and~ judges, orpreieribe a rule For their nomina- tion, To make L‘a.=wes.-(for’tis alione~,*ifthe=K§ng may 9-otdws, i ehofe that are pref:-nted to him by both-*-Hofifes) to perp€tl91=atc the fittingofthis ‘I’~.:rhament:: TheeSoveraigntie hath (if theft. be allowed) made? no fecretbut a very apparanr. :1-anfi;jg'n. frame the pttfortof the Kingzinteo the petfons oft/he Pariiatnengii r men.“--. - 1 . The Stabiefié of this Kingdvomethave neuter had one Eixampl-E . ‘of: Parliament that hath:gone- about to make themfelves t Lordsovet their brethren ;:.. And iftheyr would-they‘cannO,’ for . b when they=fo.rfakethe~diatie»of their pi=a'ce’,and-thee interefi of the Kingdome,the~Kingdome will-forfapke them; and Fometimes h before: which though-’th.e people have deariywcpentt cl,-yet ic‘ . Ierves to prove that the fubfiflance ofa -Pa-r}tia‘tnent:'is imp'oflf;~‘_ r ble if dominion,att an.y.other end be perceived then Reformati- on and prefervation oFthe?Com—mon-wealth.» it. t -r « Intiie Minotitie and abfence offormer Kings, oppottunitie t wasfarre more favourable for futh»-Lat t defigne rhien. 3.; «this P,‘-e_ . fiznt, yet what prince was ¢.Y‘l€r'hu-!t"by"-his infancie or abfence, . ‘when-« they-giwerfi 'ttIilfi€.d.3‘b0t/h,Vi'fiilh_-Ih' B 3 Andi Xfliggnit-ie 3 and =7E€YE<'t§ue, . F (14) ;‘And ’tis out of queflion, if his Ma-ieliieé had been clearly con. p current with this Parliament for the pxunif-hment of Delin- quents , andeonfervation of the peac.e,and Libertieofthc Sub. ie&,they had never rifen up into fo high rcquefls;but take the Argument at the bell, it followes nolrthat the Parliament in; tends to afiume the Soveraigne Authoritie, btcaufe whe_,n Ire- land is in Rebellion. England in cot-nbuflion, Scotland ftarce quieted, France and Spain: in Atmes, they doe humbly fup. ; plicate his Maieflie to entruli, for a ‘fhort and limitred time,the 5 Militia under the commands of perlbns of Honour, that the Lords and Commons (thofe whofelblood and eflates mufl dc. fend the State)may repofe Faith in : yet this is not to be granted, and the fcares aiidjealoufies of his Maieflies bell Kmgdorne and mofl obedient Subieéis held lb unworthy ofany regard or fatisfaéiion, that they are efleemed and fo publifhed For Frivo- lous and falfe pretended,meerely to obtaine an uniufl purchafe out ofthe Kings prerogative. .For_the nomination of “time Officers , Councellours and . ]udges,‘l prefume that requefi refults out of the precedent mill governmentsand is intended onely for this time; And peradven-» ture the temper will be better for the people, that the Kinggbc. ing once invironed with a wife and religious Couneell) appoint A Judges and;publique.lOflice rs,whom the people may if there be pcau{eJ,aecufe,and the Parliament iudgegnor would this b1'2[‘)(lLOf i the Kings prerogative b:ene reaeh’d.at by the people, if the Judges (who ought to be eonfervators of the lawes, had not been the tdifitoyers; Ifthethe couni'e’1lo‘i' a few even in Parlia- ement,time,had notinvolved rhewhole Hate in a common ct. lamity; and contelled with the Grand Counfell ofthe King. ’ dome, ailugming Ffirlhemfizlves. motez: alous affcaion to his ' ‘M.1jeflie,ga_ gteateicare of thecompmon-wealth, 8.: a better djf, .-icem_ing,iwl1at was nece-{fary andfit for.boIth; Yet -the eleétionof publike officers is not without prcfident in the times offormer , Kings; Burl would not have thofe Kings prefidents to his Ma- ,;lt may_,,b’e demalnded,whyp_pistheawork prolonged by't_.hem,who jr.-liie,thar fuch demands may not be ptelident to us. AC0flC€l'fzing the pcrpetuall,ditS’tatorf'nip of the Parliament, ask: .._.__%_.__:_..é ('57 aslce why are you {'0 long at work? why rare delinquents pro; . teflfied P by what meanes are difliculties objeflcd? Flow comes 3 this Rebellion in Ireland?rwt.hy;doth the Parliament f pend‘ time ‘ in providing for their ownefafety ?which ought to be {pent in l’Cd!.‘€fl‘C.Of'p'.)bli-qUC difordersandvindication of the fubyeéis fromwoppremon? do theytpretend ifcar,becau{e they would rule? “ re; his Meijeflie render thiofefearc’s‘apparanrl'y: fail'e‘,;and=coin- Q.|;1l‘.'C more hartily than they in fecuring the Kingdoniegifet him ‘ grant commiflions tor IreIand,let him grant Guards for the -P2ir- - .li'ament as wel to 1"ecuretheii: Fear as their danger,why {Iiouid his‘- ‘ Maieflie confirimetheir. feares byedifcharging otheir'Gtxards and attemptingtheit perf’o“ns,e Ifhe‘ know them to he fafc, let them ~ i know italf 1,0: confutetheir Feare to the uunderflanding of the "r whole Kingdome, byigrantiing their own: W3yCS‘Of‘fCCI.lrlty, the next way-;toi'déte8:‘tliofeapparirions of Fear iftheyttbe falle. ». And when the Religion ofour church is’ vindicate The vigour of. the Lewes renued ; ;A Guard of (irengthi and terrour pro- vided for ~ their 2- future prel”crvation;:..The Rebellion in Ireland 1 jquelled; His Majef-iies revenue examined and repaired; Pérticu- latdciinqtgcnts. puniflaedg _.The Court of jufiice,. reformed; The beaks founded by the indufiry of”ouriAhceflers with {o much‘ i.b’1¢od and tteaiiire againfi» "the: iziundationzr ofthe‘ pi"etogétive,i or: mali'gnitiy,;;ofiprivate counlels repaired and betterfortifi§:d,~, then let uSfc€Iwh%3t"prCtCflCC wiil b’e~ made fot'contii1u'ation of" the Seiiionéfllillihe iaaglani Nation wi1i*saqcedcubi1e1T‘x<_ie1than birthright for a melTeiof ppttagt. Nobrishqange’ the» govtffnmerit 1 oFa"P1ince (c‘ime"nor nfioryremernbting an y other in tiheféfiiné. domls) ofextraéhon {'0 illuflrious of a g=tit_le fo:indubitable,'to be I T wkd bye,thc1r;cqtnl per-adiienture infigriorrrneighbours. T. g f[_o thaealljeigtxtion that thi_s;iaiTemb”ly- is‘no Pa’rliarr;enti’in th e King; abfenee; if it be underl’toodt5:vli"en he is not prtffCnt",it' is an opinion fo"_ancient as fince his-‘Maj'e“flie" 'Ie‘Ft‘the Piriiamerlt, For bl‘;-.f'ofc [am‘epe-rfv\iadedeit.iwas never heard of: And it mufl Fol- . i léw thmupgn (gs h_ar£l1-"blCC'.)c znfwered b‘t:-i.0‘1'c)Vth’3t byf,Ih'-C‘i3€° - i¢¢d¢'mall..abfernce Aoftlreyrinecz oriinr fiCki1C{i€S=th’it i'ndn‘ce fiu- "W tpjfaéiion, or in the firli degrees 0'f;fI3i.i'.IiCiC“, when th'ep'0w7e‘rst of J,{;bh,¢,fomble*,:fouiei have.=.no,la‘titudc': of ‘opcrétien, $56“ Haw ‘ stray}? were not erthibited with '. was yerin idifpute) have (4 01) may be lefigwirhout meanes to. preferve .lr_fcll',“wh_ieh is: great ahfirrdtitidto thinlte;-B_ut.ifb.y theliings abfence be qnderfioofi 1 ‘ the want of his voluntary concurrence in.cor‘ifirma:ior1 ofthe” V A615 and‘Ord*iuancest..oFborh'%houfesfind that infutlrcafes they . are no Parliamengit may wellbe doubted if they have bin any , Parliament clu,ri_ng_thrs Selfion: "For the a&s% that have'pafl‘e‘il .hisRo_yall allent(fo much anrplifiedkln his late dccflarations to the peopl—:~e) are lhrotlely fufpeéledtotbe wlthnto‘;great"goo'd ’ liking of hrs Majcfiie, I am fur: ifthcy were voluntary, they o.pliniorr,his Majefiie hath loll much of the thankes due for fuch.tra~n{'ccndent graces, which no Prince, or inferior ptarfon, cl ue circurhflances, for through that _ oughtlhdrfcretion tolor!-.:%fe.l-Ioymever that both houfes legally L convened and authorifed to "fir, doe not by'the*ltintgsabfence ’ more the ellence and denomination ofa Parliament, appears Fx lbyptefidcnts of former“tin1'r}js,w}'\3he.t‘r‘li’r_1: the abfence of a Prince (Further drllant in body then’ h*is.Maiefij'_é is-in (mad I hope) the ;cflate_s h&vC.aflefi1bled therrifelilves tL(wh'f‘ch ailittle higher then adrninifired oathes of fealtie to the ;lhbje&,haie «named7oPrl'cers for _pLubl_iqu"e fervices, arid as well to fuperlntetid‘the,peaCe offh'ejKihg‘dorh irsrevcnue of the Kmg.bAnd uhotrghfithere washrrt, nor is any law aurhorifing the ._. all: mblingtofa"_l?a.rllament in V T fuéh a_c'afe,‘ yet was the legallity f. of that Parliament never queflioned; nor’ will ,of any other up. ’ ion thefarne or thelikc occafion,when the matterro be treated jonjs thepeacer and fafety; of the Ki‘r1gdo'mJe,t whether the %Kin’g‘e : bce;eal)'fe_r1%t.rm_’bo‘cly or frriirrde’, rt changes not the queflzion ,.much. But that whzichis. fhort antfwer‘tofi all that car) he faidis: rlcthatbry ah A61 ofall thc're.flates, this Parliament lsrtnot dil'olvei-'- tl_.able,-W but-‘by an A61 runtill that As: he paffed of: al-l the cflates,' .therefore _a Parliament To the other part of the allegation thatMajor part of both , .Hpufes.hav,e lefcthetefl, and are gone over to the King. It’ ..fmayt_bed emanded why doth not then hisMajefiic fend them up ~ ‘to adjourn the Parliament to Oxfird or améridggare they fo r .afF%l'fflll.0f.,.th¢ -‘\;pr¢ntizesr,of ,London_,that they dare not appear: K0 .5. / at fl! 7) ' to ddhis -Maiefiie {'0 great a fervice byfhouting a" yea or no in the houfe offlommons, how willingly would they a‘dv¢mum=, a b1tt¢ll'tbattci7ufc to fpeakea word in a crouti. Truly it were the pawayitoputan end to all the controverfie, to reverie with cafe the aéts that have given fa‘ great caufe of repentance, to reduce the ‘Parliament to termes of due obedience, to favea multitulydeofoffenders, to weede out of both houles thoie fa&i.. ous members thatinfiflfo obflinately upon a truli repofedein ‘them; to diflill out‘ of thedelinquent Citie of London much cordiall water toefave the labour, charge,and hazards ofwarre, to fa-ve the putfes, perfons, and horfesof the willing Gentrie, wholabourfor thofefetters (fuch is the underflanding of this time) that their fathers fw-eate to be rid from; For if armes be failed onely againfl a {mall malignant party, a lfaéiion of a Few Parliament men: The Major numbers would quickly deliver them up,and what place could afford fafetie for them againli the Ire ofhis Majellie and both houfes of Parliament. To {itch as put thefe Cmeflions, What is the power and pri- viledge ofParl~iament, by what Law doe they it-npofe Orders upon the people without the Kings Affent P they feeme to me: like them that Idifpute how legally the next lhoufcs are pull’d downe, when the flame and winds make ctuell vafiatia onin the beautifullbuildings of a populous Citie : They are houefi men, and would faine be thought wife, but I doubt it is ‘not in the orbe of their underflanding to comprehend, what A a power refidesin the vaflibodie of the people, and how unlimi- tedly that power operatesi, when it is‘ animated by danger, for prefetvation of it felfe. A man may make the fame oblervat-i- on upon them that is made upon Cam, who pleadedthe up Lawes and ufages of peaceable times, when the libertie of that ,Common-wealth was at the lafl Gafpe , and would not bee - drove ofi it,til_l it was too late, his argument was this in effefi, . that the Authors of lawes for preiervation ofthe Common- wealth, may not pieferve it,but by their own Creature.This was Cato’: ertorand is {o confeffed, by all men, yet ( I take it) heiwas a better fiatefman then thefe difputants. The King was admittedjndge ofthedangerrof the Commonwealth before the 44 _ ; _._.- i not well, though you-do not perceive it,Give me got I o.peecea. 1’Ie cure you, {hall be better beleev’d then the man I that bath-~ rbeen wafled wi[h\a' Q3g_tid=ian Fever 16 yeeres together.They~ « _1 talke whatthe P,arl.i~ament may doc, and what not,.as «though; I ' this were. the Patliamezat that made an A& for t pavement of..an« thigh way,an:i,had little.-other-worke.' ..Tx ulyif regulation ofaa Trade, or creation ofa Tenure, or Ercélion of a Corporation-~ right of all Kingdomes,Corpqrations,and Creatures. Butthey» A I fay the Kingdom: is in no fuch. danger; who is a« better Iudge;- (139 the Parliament, and it was apparant for no..other¢reafon~, but V ' the better to leaviemoney, Shagilthellhrliament fitting be -a lreflé». competent jtndge? Asthonghla P,hyfitia'n_that faith you are‘ were the Qneflion in a peaceable time, «it»-wereeafilytrefolvedi that the Kings demurre fhzruld (tand for»: denial], but to fay the Kingdome may not defend and fecua-e it {elf} who evcrfaitht to. the contra: ,is to fight againfl the oldefl and befi kno_wnemx Law in nature, the Center of all Lawes, and the infeparable thenthe repreiieneatiire bodie of tht: Kingdome it felfe? not Ehoibthat fay fo. Who link-eaman that (landing upon the beach, l-at; Deper will not beleevethat the Sea hath any ‘(horde towards. .Fmna:,.,untill- he beebrought to the top ofthe Hill., It is not within their view to tellbetter then the Parliament whether“ a there be danger or not. His,Majeflie indeedhath the mofi emi- nent place to obferve what Colle&ionr~of i Clouds are in any‘; a quarter ofthe Hea.ven,and what weather itwill be,,bti_t;his _cal-,. culations (fupposfd tobe made [mothers frorng lower ground), are therefore notfo well beleeved. But be it in danger or none, _, it matters not mucb,the Lewes have been in danger. (none will, d.c.ny)_ and were recovesdby smother dangeror had beenlofi :, * ‘lfit benow fpeace( as tbefe -men fay) it-is thebetter time tole- cure tbcmiii it be not geaee, it is well to {ave the Common-. wealth by anymeanse whatfocyer, and iflthe King eoncurre not fo.{pe.e.dily» as the occaiion requites,the blame is not theirs that. ggesbeforefor his prefervation andrheir. own. ~ . t i i Ioamkcian ¢0Sla_.131V.m1#11.!lfli90.QEFl"€'tbfl€.KiDgd0.m9§:F|0" der, the fame.Govemment, Ecclefiatlicall and Civil] (if it bee» [129-ffiblfi) !_l}ac..t.hi$ .QIQY_fn§ haying ,tl3reg ft;eI_g.{ugpprters,;. and, .fnrronnded. kg. *1 ___. (I9) fttrtoundeid with thea.{alt’waters, at uhitie; at Libertie,at Pcacetgx i - in it felfg.-, may not fearethewhole forces of the disjoynted con- V tinentofEutope,ThathhMajefiie would“und'erIland this In- “ tete G‘ to be,to unite,’not todivide his Subjeélsiand to remember 3 with whatmanner ofTropheyes the tnagnanimous Princes of former times have adorned their Funerals and Fame. That“ he'- ' * —‘ ‘will chufe rathetitofight in the head of the Brittifh Armies, ’ for tefiitution of his Nephews to their lofi Inheritance, than imploy them here to pillage and deflroy his ownfubje&s;That : heevvill firli command the hearts, then the perfons, thenthe ‘ Bflates of his Subjefis; and not begin at the wrong end :That V iinthc Parliament may refide a Spirit of that Latitude and No- blenefle which ought to dwell in an Aflemblytoffo much [-10- L’ ‘ trout and Gravitie , That jufi things be done for juflice fake,~-°j;b without bowing lelfe or more for the raging ofpopularifiitges; ” o inthe South, or for the cold winds that blow from the North: ‘ ' ’ That the conditions of peace may not be enhanfed by any pro- fpetous fuccelfe, but like the Noble Romane before andtaifter» ‘ the viaotie the fame : That his Majellie may be convinced of theErrour of his private Councels ',’ by finding in the»Granela » W Eouncell aquiettepqfe andaa flable foundation at peace and ‘i " gilentie to his Royall Petfon and Familie. And lal¥ly»(fiu'ce his ' Maiellie and his people thus divided cannot bee hIppic)ll1It”i“‘ with all convenient Expedition, fuch as havefludied this’divi- tion between the Head and the Body, maylwhavetheir heady‘ a * dividedxifrom theirbodiesa So farewell. »- i " l ' RARE DA 412. . 1642. % .D5 uumnmItiwifiiijiifljfijiyflifiultllmmmam University of Missouri Libraries University of Missouri——Co1umbia Eng1ish Short Tit1e Cata1og Loca1 identifier Capture information Date captured Scanner manufacturer Scanner mode1 Scanning software Optica1 reso1ution Co1or settings Fi1e types Source information Format Content type Source ID Notes DiscourseUpontheQuestions1642 5 June 2018 Ricoh MP C4503 600 dpi co1or, 24 bit TIFF Book Text Barcode page at end of text. Some pages have handwritten marginaiia. Faded text and b1eed—through are present in origina1 document. Page 2 mis—numbered as 8. 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