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i,V[NDICATION§

_ OF THE
lmpmfoned and Secluded ‘

MEMBERS,

OFTHE‘

the MAIORITY of the Houfe, in a paper
lately printed and publilhed :

INTITOLED,

fln Humélc flnfzvermf the (jemmll

Camzcel of tbe Officerx of the Army under
his Excellency THOMAS Lard FAIRFAX5
T 0 T H E
Demand: of the Honourable Commom of
ENGLAND in Parliament Afléméled : _
Concerning
The late Securing or Sccluding fame
MEMBERS t/aereof.

P: A L. 2-;.;, 6.
Commit thy way unto the Iiord. trufi alfo in him, and he {hall bring it to
pafl'c. And he {hall bung forth thy rightconfncfs as the light, and
thy juclugcmcnt as the noon-day.

—-——-.—¢.

 

Houf e of Commons,‘

" L From the ASPERSIONS call upon them, and

l Bible in Green-Arbour.‘ *1 6 4 9.

7 0 ND ON. Printed for Michael Spark an the blue &

/3’

A Vindication of the imprzjoned andfecluded
A 11/Iem‘/9erJ'ioftI9e Houfe of Commom‘, from
the 'Afper/ion.r"cafi uponjbeoz 41,261 t/2¢Ma_-

  jority of tho Houje in a Paper l4tely;pri.rzLt-
ed and fnblzfled : Intituled, Anibumlole
Anfwer of the General! Councel of the 0f‘
ficer: oftbe Army, évc. to tbe Demoncl: of
the Honourable the Common: of England,

«five.

» . Fter our being fecluded, and fome of
us imprifoned, and detained from our
Service in the Houfe of Commons (of
K go which we are Membeixs) now for above
 :fix;weeks fpace‘; finding :1 paper pub-
lifhedini print againfi us , wherein we
<. z 0- . * . are reproached with the names of
"’**'*/,2 —/ « ..»  Traitors, /Ipoflatex, Sel_f—]}rz/em, oar-5
Tflpt ~Mém&ierx,. an divers other afperfioins of the like na-2
tzure _<.:ha.irgedh.up:on us; "We are enforced (for our Vindicag»
tion,. and which his dcaiirerito us, the Vindication ofthe Fcxieen
i A 2 ' om

     

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clomand Honour of the Parliament, and for preventing ther-
matters fuggefted againft us in that Paper from abuling:

thofe   by Whom We are entrufled, who might judge us guil-
ty, if lhould be filent) to make this enfuing Anfwer to that
a er.

P pm the Preamble of this Anfwer, by way of Accompt,,,
concerning the fecuring fome Members, andpfecluding lo»

thers; It appears by the Propofals of the fixth of Decem-r
bar, the late Declaration and Re~monPtrance therein cited,

That this_ deifigne to break the Houfe by force hath been
long fince plotted and contrived, though not executed untill

now. Which Aftion the General Councel of the Army in

their Anfwer fay, We acknowledge it to ée 4 (burfe in it
irregular, and norjujhfizéle em‘ éot/J 5} lyonefl imezztionrfor

pzzélickgood, and em extmordiwir N ecef/Vt] for the figm-

end leading an t‘/aeremzro. '

Thefe 7being the two pillars upon which is laid the whole 

Weight of the juftification of the‘Army in this extraordina-
ry and (we beleeve) unparallell’d courfe of proceedings;

We {hall apply our {elves to difcover the weaknefle and un.» V

foundnefs of them e,_,l,>_,ot_l_;,.,., _F,or our more clear proceedings»
herein, we Ihallfirlt {late the~Ca{e which is endeavoured by i
this paper to be jufiified. .

They are an Armie raifed and formed by Ordinance of

Parliament of the is of Fcérzmrj I 644., for the defmce a

Oftlle -King i and ]’arlz§.ament,_and true Proteflemt Ii’

_ _ V V eligion, ,
the ,Lmav.r and ; Liberties _0f,the.Ic’ingdom ; and to be from
time to time fzzbjefl to‘ fuch Order: and Direfliamr as they
lhall receive from bot/9 Houfex iaf>1’¢rliame7zt.. And for that
end they. {tan-d commiflionated by them, and "receive pa
from them  at this day. And befides the Trnfi: they hereby
have allumed, they are under the obligation of a folemn Cot. ,

venant’fworn.to Almighty God, That tbeyewi/I in their -

place: and eallin ;, wit/9f_rzeerz't]; reality and co;;fl4m~J, 139,1], . '-
rbeir eflate: an liver, preflerve t/ye Right: and Priviledgm,
oft/ye Przrliamerzt, emol t/ye Liéertiex of ¢l9e,1(7;';;gdgmg 5 and:
f~’”d- 359 - 5”~" P6’7‘_/571.  flfi1‘l:?Qri{y.1'-I2. til)? d6jfence_ t/gas

~ trite;

arm’ Relz’g£orz“ amd‘Liéertie: of me Kingdom. They being
under thefe TrufisandfObligations by and to the}-Ioufes,With
their Arms, contrary to their Orders, marched into We]?-
min/ier, and without any order from them, they placedfomet
of their Regiments at and about the door of the Houfeof
Commons upon the fixth and feventh of December 1*1it,.a and
there (with a Lil’: of the names of divers Members. of the
Houfe) their“'O€licers and Souldiers (appointed for that pur-i
pofe) forcibly fecluded fome, feized upon, imprifoned, and
detained others from their attendance of the I-lonfe, and oc-
cafioned many others to abfent themielaves. The Qlfeiiion
now is, Whether any thing in this paper can juliifie at t us A-
étion of theirs, either upon the good intentions. or NecelT—
t=ypretended therein. This being the point in Iliiie, which
they at'firm,and we deny We-ihall, now proceed to confider
their grounds.
For their good Intentions, which cannot be known to us
but by their expreliions and aéiions, they referre us to their
Propoials, Declarations and Remonfiraiices : where ‘wee
finde their deifires are to take away the Kings life, go take a-
way the lives of the Prince and the Duke ‘of Turk; at leafi,
todif-inherit both them and all the Kings children; to put
a- period to this Parliament ; to let up a new Re prefentative,
Which takes awayall Parliaments; to have an elefiive King,
if any. Thefe are» the « intentions for“ publick good, i which
mult come in to help their actions, that are confeiied to be
otherwife irregular and unjuftifiable. We think fthervery
naming of them doth manifeli,, , that they are -apparantly ag
gainft the Laws of God, tandthe Laws of the Kingdom un-..
der which they live, and have no juliification for themfelves,
much leaflet any-to-{pare for their aflions ; whereof we leave
the whole Kingdome--(for whofe-good, as laid,'. thefe In-:
tentions are) to be judges. And we fhall produce no other»
witnelie to ‘prove -this, but themfelves-J On the I; of Na- .
vember, 1647, the paper called The Agicement of the ’ people, .
which is fomewhat lower then-thefe whichathey call Inten~
tions for publick good, ‘wascondemned by the Army, the

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promoting of. it judged capitall, C0lOnelpRaainfbaroz4'g/J and

;Major Scar complained of by them to the Houfefor a ppear——

ing in it, and the paper it {elf then adjudged by the 1-loui_‘e
(_‘Lefl‘i1‘ugffi-Ve to Gm/et‘nn1ent, and the being of Parliament.
And upon this their evidence againfl: themlelves we leave
this point. A V ‘ _
 to proceed to’ the other ground of their jtiiiifitation,
viz. Extraorcli.na1‘y Nereflity, which is laid down in their pa—-
per thus : After they have brought in tlizeir gm’ mW‘>*rim‘
for their juftification, (and what thofe are, we have cited out
oftheiriown papers, to which they refer us,) it is tl1enad—
éled’, Andan exrmardirmiry Nib-flit?  tic! /‘elm? 51463 lfétdliflg
m rlaerezmta. It appears in the firft opening of this neceHi-
ty, of What nature it is, that tends, EO.iii;lLi1 ends as they re-
ferre it. But for the better difquilition thereof, before We
come to the particulars to let forth this neteility in this pa-—
per, we lhall lay down fome generail Obiervatioris and Con-
clufionsl concerning this their Plea. y
1. The Army made the very fame plea of extraordinary
neceliity in their RCl110flPCl.“é1.I1C€ fame 23. I  47:, that now
is made in this paper, upon quite contrary grounds then
what theykexprefle now, ; and both to julhrie the fame ex-
traordinary violent proceedings againli the Pilljllzllllfillli : dif-
fering-onely in degreiesi, this later worle then the f<:>rmer.
Then when the King was feized upon by a party of the Ar—«
my, without Order from the Home, and the Army advanced
againil: the Parliament, they fay in their Letter to the Home
~?1£[y the 3, I6i47i.'_, There home been fewra//’0flic'cr: of the fir»-
uzir, tuponjimzicrlz/Z‘arm/ii;-rm [Sent to biz} Majeflir: T/ac /inf}, to

prefenmohim at Copy oft/at: Reprcflnrkeztionr ; and afirer t/oat,/Erma

at/yer: to ttmdef lnimivz iC'apie of thy-Rewxoafirance :’ upon bot/9
which the qffimw f¢'1tt»\r1vc-rcaplaciiiireaof tarlrmr t/ac  and in-
wationrofidny‘ tlaiwg in erltlier paper w/aeirrtrpan 19;}: Mujr/fie ngig/at
make _d1r17 iyaceflinn. There they treated Witlrthe King ; and
now theyofier violence to the Parliament for treating With
the.King.'; “Then in their Iifilflflflflifaflflffi fa}.-. 23. 1543-, Ali: is
faid,« Wt“ clearly prrgfjifle’, ,wjo'ydo not far how there can 5:! any pram!

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people that fent them. For then the Parliament mights—jit&dge

to ’t1azI:‘Kz'ngdam firm. or laifling, xxaitlaaatt :2 due c‘0'7v$=fi£ic‘ra1l5a'0a2-af,-
and pira'z2i_/iari famine 'R{g1atr, qatict Ilfl£d1ffl7l¢flfiZ.lt.’."J"of/512:4" ,.Ma;c.g
flick Royal! Family,’ anti I955 lciité’ p.zrt:2I§e;~.¢'. Now theyjudgg

the Majority of the Houfe corrupt, and proceed violenriy a.»

gainlt them for moving ‘one {tep towards a peace with the
King, though he hath granted more then all their 1"ropofals,
and make this a necefiity fharp:enough to juftiiie the uiing
of their {words contrary to their Commillions. Thiswere
caufe enough to makegthc uiifoundnefie of this plea of ne-
cellity appear to all the world, and even to be fufpefted by
themfelves, that ferves to jultifie contradiétirons which they
are put to, by making themfelveljudgessof thofethings they
have no calling to meddle with; and raltingthemeout of thofe
hands to Whom of right it belongs to judgethem. A

2. This plea of necellity which is made in '-this-‘paper, 
deftruftive to all Government. For by the fame reafon that
the General Officer urgeth neceflity for aflring againfi: the

command and perfons of his Superiours , and makes him» .
felf]udge"ofthat neceflity ; the inferiour‘ Otiicer may urge .

the fame neceliity in‘ his judgement toaft a'gain{°c the com-*
Inands of his Generall ; and the Souldiers may urge the
like for acting againlt their Orticers ; andany other zoooo
men in the Kingdom to at} againft the Army ; and this Ar-i—
my to act (as againit this Parliament, fo) againlt any5 other
Government or Reprefentative that lb‘all' befet up, and
{O in infinitzzm. i_ l “i _ V‘ ‘A ' i
3. Did the Members of Parliament proceed in Parlia-
me’ntco‘ntrary to their truitin the judgement 0ftllOl€‘tl13t
did elet’ctl1e1I_1': yet it is manifelt, that the power of advifing,
voting and afting being‘ placed in the Members of Parliament
by the Law of the Land , and ancient ‘l Rights of Parliament,
they are not accountable ,much leffe cenfurable forthe me of
it according to their own judgment and confciences, tho-ugh

contrary.to ‘theirs that chole them. ' They are onlyinluch i

cafes accountable to,<a and cenfurable by the*Houfe ; which
they could not reafonably be, if they were cenfurableibyytihe

that

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that good fervice, which the Ele Pcors judge evill: 6' 2' mm.
-uerfo, the Eleftors may judge that evill which the Houfe may
judge to be good '5 and {o no man can be fafe or free in the
fervice of the Parliament. But were power and trultplaced
in the Members of Parliament by Law, only to be ufedor not
ufed, valid or null, atothe Ele :”l'ors judgment; yet in fuch tale
the Members of Parliament were only accountable to the

Counties,(,ities or Boroughs for which they ferve ; and not to
"Strangers : and in no cafe are they

accountable to the Arm y ,-,
who are To far from being thofe from whom they received
their Truli, that they are only perfons in a fubordinate Trult
underpthem, fortheir defence from force. Which how well
they have performed, we leave to the judgment of all thofe
who obferve their prefent proceedings.

4. Thefe aftions, which they undertake to jufizifie, are
contrary not onely to their trufi, but to the exprefs letter of
the Covenant and Proteltation which they have taken. And
breach of Oath being a morall evill, it is not to be juftilied
by neceflity and good intentions. Saul, though a King and
thereby qualified to do julhce, yet for executing the G'zféco-
nine: againli a Covenant made many hundred yeers before,
and gained fubtilly by the Gibeonites, who were not of the
children oflfrael, but of the remnant of the Amorites (with
whom he might prefume to be more bold;)ani though he did
this in his ‘zeal to the children ofilfraeland Judah ; yet this
neceflity in his judgment, for publick good,could not warrant
him; God brought a Famine upon the Land for this breach
ofCovenant,which ceafed not until! it was expiated by the
death of {even of his ions that did commit it. See here by
this inliance what legacy they by their iprefent arftions may
leave to their poftetity. c

Having thus laid down thefe conliderations of this plea
of Neceffity in generall, it thereby appears, fhould we fay
no more, though we ihould be guilty of the genfuing {par-—
ticulars with which we are charged , yet they could not
be innocent , n-or Jultified in what ‘they have done a9-
gaxnft us.   N V i A i

 But

But for our further cleering, and their further con_vi&i-
on, we come now to enquire intorthofe particulars in this
Paper,’ in which they hold forth the neceffity that mull. bear

  them out; wherein the queliion betwixtus, ,adn'1ittin;g. ne-

ceflity, would jufiifie their proceedingssis *thu_s5' Whether

i that which is afligned in the particulars following in their

Eaper, be that neceflity wherein we {hall rjoyn Irffue with
them, and freely put it to tryallupon the particulars fol-

lowing, which are fix in number. But before We enter upon a

them, we rnufi take noticeof what is {aid from the end of

. the fecond page of their Paper, unto the end ofsthe fift page,

wherein are ufed many words to thew how, the Majority of

A the Houfe came to be formed to ferret the Kings~,~ and other

e corrupt lnterefls. The {um of all which is; .. That ‘by the ended-'

; vow‘: of fomepwbom tbey call pold_M4lig7zant, Members, and by tbe pm.

.ctife: ufed in the new Electiaxzr, we re came in afloadhof-new Burgeflijrg, i

that either are Maligrwztr or Neuterr. To which we anfwer,That
-\ 'What"is done by "the "majority of the Houfeg it isthe efifofthe

 wholeHoufe;fo what is done againli theimaio1~ity of thefioufer
‘ is done againfl the whole H oufe : find to the Charge againfi \

the new Burgefli-5, as it is clee.r,~ =t'i'lcr~(;)l_§?d'lna,nCC for§inet1r.r.
Elections was not carried by thofewg  old; Maligirnxhxsj (1
(if there be any fuch in the Houfe) exceprthe major part“ of 1 l"

the Heufe was alwaycs Mali gnants, and before the neim:E1e-

&ion fa, for the Members which came in upon thenew Ele-, 

‘_&ion, which are calledNeut'grs orrMailignhnts"einngenerall;
r with-:..ut fixing upon any one particular Mémb;er,~r~’to which; i

 r-rryzwll in generall were fuflicienjt :%;Yeti*i*weerrfhiarll ifurthere

adde, that of all thofc Members ofiethe m:W;Ele'&ion,fr,tha‘tt

are fecluded or‘ imprifoned, “we knowrenone but Wholc5rEle~   «
azions are allowedby therlrloufe, and rwhomee propeflhdgcS;.trfl

thereof; and ‘who either by their l.erviCcs?as:,Soulrdie1?s for the in

Parliament, .or in their Committees, or other.wifepbjlri1nmi~r

A nent liervicesl or fufferings “in their Caufia, gave ateliimony
of their faithfulnefle to the Parliament» beforegtheye were ~
elefied, which may free them jfromi; the c name 1- of; tNeu.ters ”

and Malignants. B And

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And it were um had to {haw that many Officers oftlgc Army
~whoca¢me in upon? the lafi Elefiions, are ch! mm by 'Lhc>1?.~ plat-
ce3wl1ere%theyv§rer¢ fcarca known, and wherein they h;m:*no in-
terefi of their "own 5 and by what anther influence they aabmin--%
ed thufe Ele&ions,‘We leave to*tf1%emfi~1vcs%t0il1dge, 1:0 Whom
‘it is befl known 3“ and (0 come to the firft of thofe fix particu-
lars,“ 4W!1erein is afl1ghkdVth¢;'extmaordinarv necefiity eoajuflifis:

T th"ei1fVpr0cce'dirzgs’ in their own Words.

Firfl, ffbe betraying of I R. 1:»: L A N 1) into the anemia: band: by re-
calling the Lora’ Lifle fi-om bx} command there,“ A and Apzming xtbe be]? part
of that Kingdom, and where fbew Parliament bad~tbe¢fi*ra2zg¥efifqoting,
(Mun Prer) irate tbe band: of Inchequin a rzéztiviz rlrifb mam, wba Barb

fizzce reveltedfiom tbe Parliament, lmtb lately-%united4wit%b the Irifb Re -L

fuels, and witbtbem and Ormozzd agaiyz, engagedwi1b% tbe King. To

which we anfwer 5 

Tha*t.A'if Muizfler befthat part Aof Irfiland wherein t%he%ParIia-

mhnt hid: the befi in t‘ere{‘t_., the Lord Ivzcbequin did come in him-
fe1£5ia;1d bring that inéerefltcé the Parliament, whom he ferved
agaiufhthe Iriihzfliabcls, and prefwved» a pofffiflion in Mmzfler
fo¢n1:luu‘P;ii!Ii:iJrnen7::t, Marin? ‘éhfet heat 05 their Wzusr in England,

. when clfnéy‘hadVlict1e&“‘ot%hcr*ii?itbwefi in Irielmd, and Ieire means :50

reIiw:e'tbem*ouc of England. That the Lord Lyle» was nocNrecal-
ledfnom his co.mmafid AAth§em,‘ but ‘his? Com?miflion_ for ¢Lo_r~d
Li_Téi1tenanx.«4‘0f7¢jA11wiand 6:ipi%in'g*%abouu the V fifiéeén Eh Aofgflpril *1647.
hi§':Lord{hip on —u:I‘tWh”o" fevaAiziteaz1%t;l1»> of April teak fhipping ‘Fer
Englimai After the Lord Lijlw dbpartura out of iMu72fler, the
Lo‘rdvIncbaquin proceedaci fuccéffively agfaimfi the Rebels , and
tqoklfmm them many confidg-:rabIe%* Forts and »C‘a{Hes 3 %t;l,1c
Garm‘ifrfl of Orgzmmagb, Cappaquin, the Town andNCaPcle of'Dm2~
_gamz‘an,"~; the Cafifewfi“ Ckzlur, '%4émd% Qthersi: A5nd”upon%jthc four-
tccnth%bf~*Noz}ember fbl1owing,,‘at the battell of KnocV%*lqzowe%: he
obtained one ohjhagreateiiVi£’co1ries4that ever was gotten (war
the Rebels Army, under the command ~o£~vt‘he Lord Tczfi‘, where.
in wens taken ofthc mémimflorfo cwo'huAndred?, flairr air the

A % % 00:;

Foot four thoufand, Officers taken prifonersfixty eight," P

Arms fix thoufand, the Lieutenant generall {lain : F or all

which, we refer the Reader to the Letters and Papers» con-- i

cerning thefe feverall fervices prefented to" the I-loule, and by
their Orders publifhed in print. V M I

_ Thefe were inch tefiimonies of his reality to the Paglia-
ment long after the Lord Lifle: coming out of ‘Munfier 5 that

the Houfe did not call it into queflion, and nothing to the ‘

contrary appeared to the Houfes until! the third of April

1648. The Army here having difputed the Parliaments "

Commands, the Lord Incbequin began to enterinto Ramon-
firances and engagements againft the Parliament, for which

he made the Ptemonfirances, Engagements and Declarations A

of the Army the Summer before, both the Caufe and Prefi-
dent 5 as by the Relation made to the Houfe, publifhed in
print, doth appear. We mention not thefie things in the
leaft meafure to jufiifie the Lord Incbequim revolt from the
Parliament, but have onely related the truth of the matter
of faét, for our own jufiification againli the Charge in this
Paper, of betraying Mzmfler 5 and we leave to the Reader to

judge, whether the Army hath caufe tocomplain of us, or L »

refleét upon themfelv es for the loffe of Munjier : and proceed
to the fecond particular, viz. r l

‘Their endeavaur: to bring in tbe King up0»!¢ bi: own Termr, g with-
out fatirfaéiion and fecu:rz't_y to tbe Kingdom, viz. upon bid‘ Mejfage of
tbetwelfth of May 1647. and to their en 5, witbfo menifefiinjujlice
and eindig,ni~ty , to» diurbarzd tbs Army , before any Peace made or
dflitffdo " e '

    For the engagement of the twelft of May, it is well known
the Houfe of Commons upon the firffc knowledge of that en-

gagement voted it to be treefoneblegr and lppafterwdrds both
.}{~0u feg by Ordinance of the fevenreenth 0f Eecember 1647-

’ London u

put anineapacity upon all th0{g.;jtfl;’ 01‘ a*b0l:1¢i the City Of

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i Lozidov,thhtlentred'into, or.contriveél,e&ed or abetted dqati
W  engagement; of bearing any Qfficein the City of ‘London

for that yeti‘ 5 which we drake to be atitfufhtientilividence
to provemsherein a right nmaiority, as in other parts of
their Paper, they take the Voteslof the HouI~‘e‘to’ipt,ove ‘us

. i‘,‘:i.C0If1‘l1Qt Imi0ri£y : The Charge here lying onely in ge-
neral}; and not fixed up:m any particular; Yet for our

fiirthlerv cleering, ‘befilcles the l'l"ePcimony y we have given
againli the bringing in the King upon ‘any fiich tearnie,

‘ byourkcohtinued infiliihgupon far higher tearms, to

which the King hath agreed in the late Treaty 5 we, doe
every one of us for our felt/es refpeéiively, iprofeffe our
utter cliflike of that engagement, or any endeavour to
bring in the Kingtupon any engagement made’ or contri-
ved without the Houfe. i A i y
And for what is {laid concerning disbat-iding of the Ar-

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my, we fay, that the Votes of the l-Ioufe, that eightiFtegi- ”

ments of Foot, four of Horfe, and one of Dragoons

yfhoqld be fent outof the Army to Ireland‘, which was dc» A
R fired might be in one entire Bod y,. and their refolution to
contain’teq thoufimd F oot, Hand five thoufand "four hun- i
dred Horfe, underpthe command of the Lord Fairfax, for
the neceflary defence of the Kingdom, (as the {late of af-

fairs then Hood in Erzglazzd and Ireland) asit wa_s to no fuch
end, as is alledged, but for the relieving of poor diPcref-

t’ {ed Protzéfiants in I re‘/cmd, the eafing ofthe heavy prefltures

pp them to riaifeta new War.

lying upon the poor people of this Kingdom, and an
honourable and fit imploying the Forces of that Army
to prevent the high I Diliempers that fince hgve enfued,
['0 as it was -no injufiice nor indignity tothe Armie.

To the third Article , viz.’ That they endeavoured to proteéi
the eleven impeached Member: from jufiice, and endeavouring with

. .

We fay, that ' as we c§lefi~re'r»1o other protcfiion then our

ownjnnacency, ahd the L_an2~.r under which we live, ‘fo we: i
never gave any other protefiion to the eleven Members, I4
then what flood with Lawiand Jufiice. And i

(H)   

. t-dzzd for the mifjzending of two bmzdred tbeufand pounds, or the

greatefi part thereof, which was defigned ebiefly for Ireland : We  

fay,.that about eighty thoufand pound of that money was
paid to Mafier Nicholas Loftm and «others for the fervice of
Ireland and above fifty thoufand pound to the Treafurers
at War, forthe Army ; which might with more reafon he
faid to be mifimployedfin regard thyereis an efiablithment
for their pay another way, unlcfie part of the Army had
80.36 to do Ireland fervice for that money : then What" the
Ref0rmadoOfhcers and Souldiers, who obeyed» the Qt-
ders of the Houfe for disbandinggwho received,prefl‘ed the
more eernefily upon the Houfe for part of their Arrears},
after their Declarations and Remonfirances by the Army,
for fatisfying the Arrears of allthe Souldiers in the King-
dom Werepubliihed.‘ * V _y ;

For the fourth Artic1e,tb“cir countenancz‘ng,a?5etting,cmd paru
talgrzg with the tumultuom violence of tbe Appreniticcr and other:
agzzinfi bot/J Houfextofflzrliamenz. It feems Ptrange to us,,when
they had this in their thoughts A to charge it as _a Crime
upon us,they did not think of What themfelves are doing,
and much more that they fhould urge the force offered to
the Houfe then(which they declared liorrid and treafarzableg)
to juPtifie.r the 7/iolerzce offered to the I-ioufe by them, of a
far higher natunelf it were a crim in the Apprentices, why
do the Army the fame thing ? If it were no Crimegwhy. doe

b they complain of Us for abetting andpartaking with it 2' c

wherefore,We fay,that there is not the leaf’: colour or (he.

dow of truth 5 and doejevery one of Us for Our feives re-

fpefiively utterly deny it. " ‘A . ~ '
And for letting up a new Speal@r,the Houfe o£Comrnonsy

~ did no more then whatiin all a as hath been their un-
doubted righttto do in the cafe 0 want of a Speaker. And 

as to the Ordinances and Votes then paflicd, We Ihould
makea particular Anfwerthereunto, but that by theOr-

dinaneeof the mo. of Aug. following, 4 they are made void,

and null inthem felves,which filences H: for the prefent.
B 3 y c y   Foe

V ‘ ( I :2 ) A I
For the fifth ArticIe_.,‘The balding»carrefionydency,ing4ging find
ajjifling the mmulmouc Petitioner: la]! Spring,tbe rebellion: Infur-5
rmfiioni in Ke22t,the revolted Shz’p3,amI Prince afh" 7416:, and fwitb

the ScotJArmz'g. We do every oneof Us for our {Elves rc{'pe-

fiively denie the having any band therein. 

Having thus givet10uryAnfwets to thofe F ivc particus»
Jars whereinithe heceflity is affignedy by which they fen-
dcauour to fiufiifie their proceedings gigainfi Us; Wee
Ieaveith to thefjudgment of their own: Confciencey, twhcuh-I
that they doe hnot»beatwit11efi”ewithin them, that mail
thefc particulars they have gtoundlefly accufed Us of
thofc things of which they for the moi’: part are guilty,
and know Us to be innoéent. In thefe we havehufed the
more brevitie, that We might bethe more large upon. 

fix: Sefiion of the Paper 5 wherein they hfayg, Thiith

'wbe7z the Arm}? Wm dzjfierfed and engaged in jevergzll part: of
Ihe Kirzgdome in appofing the Enemies, jhfprefling the trouble:
thefe men had raifed 5 and when many faithful! Member: of Par-1
liament were c-mplcyed abroad upon neceflhry publique fervices, and
others, through maligminth tumult: abant the Ciytie, cahld am with
fafetie dttend ehe Haufe, then thoycorrupt  A ayofiariziug party
taigfig advantage of thejc dzflraéiiom and di*verfion:,. whzch them-
felve-: had cauj}za'; firfi recalled in thofe Memberr, (ht, than they
recalled thajE- Vote: for non‘-— addrsjfer, and V a red 4 Perfmall Trea-
tie with the King. To all which fcandaloust afperfions Wee
Anfwer: ‘ . A A A it A
That they are altogether gnoundleflka if there wereany
reality ih what they Wouldytherue infinuatc, That the pitta?
ceedings of this Treatyiwere not by the V Conchurrrence of
thel-ioufe, but furrepticioufl ye gwyned, by taking advan-
tage of ithcmbfénce of many faithfull Members ; Why doe
they cemyplyaine than in other parts of their Paper, That
the Majorizie ofIhe1'-Iaufe 23: corrupt 7.’ and talq: paint: tofhew, ham
the Majbrim: of the Houfe came to beformeahto fame: the King-and
Other to téupt Interefixg, or what necefitie wasthene for them
to force the abfemceviof t:wo_hundred- Member: of the Houfc
V V ‘ at

I

  (1 J '      
athttomct? for what is done ingthis Treatie, hifthe com-»
plaint here he juft, that the proceedings thereunto” were
through the "ah-Fence U? the Members that could not with
fafety attend the Houfe, and for the difirafizihons in the
Countries,which they fpeake of. It is manifefi to all men,
that heard the ctfyes of the Countfies at that timt, who

in part etccafitwned thcafe dificmpers, even in the Coun- ’

triestletrexfl ‘:md*. befi affa‘&e‘d to the Pariiamehtg who ne-

—vt:r5 dt1riz1hgthe_VVarhre, exprefisfo high contempt to‘ the

authority of Parliarnent, until! the like hid bin firfidone

bythe Armies quarterimg upmn and amimgft them ahlittile ‘

before. And although thc prcfident was f0l1OWE5d'”' by Sea
and Land. almufi to the mine of Parliament and King-

A dome, yet th®fe.Members (if they meant fuch as are ‘im-

prifoned andfecludcd) whhchh they" moi’: uncivilly and au-
cbthrifiiaxzly) requite with the repmach of Apofhztes, were:
manyof them implaytd and did impmve the ut.n1c:f‘ch of
their Interefis in Lanczzfhire, Torlvgfbire, Lincolneflzire, Hares
fardflyire, Hampflyire, Sufi‘olL;;, Efléx, Landau and Surrqy )
and many other parts of the Kingdoms, to quieth difi;ra-
«Scions and oppafe Infhrrefiions, which the t-xtrhemhzy of

the Armits proceedings had in part occafioned. We never V th

judwd Tumults, nor Infurrefiions the way to Peace and
Sethfamant. hAnd':*f0r the Charge of fame of the eleven
Members, to have taken Commifliwus from the Prince;
Wcfiay, and evtrry M them for thennfelves aflirntingt the
Charge Qf their taking Commiflions fmm the Prince, or
anywmrflcr whatfocver,bry vemu ofihis At1thnrity,is a mofl
malicious and fcandalom pérfim; They ahhmring to dhviateh
in the loath from what thuir primitive engagefmants were;

which they have from firfl to 1111 contiuuedMin,, nnttd {hall ,

dam (by Gods a*fii1‘1':mce) notwithfiandihg aI*l**=hv“fD.arlhmx;1ihes
cat’: on them, or fufferingys (though to the utmoflsr) fogrfvfa

. Havingthuts c1eared‘the entrance to the Treatie: from

theffiprcjuditcs laid in the w*a.yc~therunm;W t comc. ta that
=t t V0 16’

Vote of thc'l'-Joztfo Decemb‘.5 . fl bat the Anfwerof tbe7Kcng to the
Propofitiom of bail) Houfe: are a groomdfor tbefloufe to proceed up-
“ oorzfort1Je_[et'tlement ofitbe Peace ‘ofitbo Kingdome.Ofwhich they

lay, that though they advanced hither to attend Providence for _ .

tbo operzing fame way ‘to avoid the prefent evil: defigned, and intro-
duce rise dofired good into the Kingdome; yea tbey [aid nor a€iedllna-
thing in relation toltbe Parliament nor any’ Mem;bef I/Jefeof, until!
by that Vote pafid Decemb.5 . they fozmd the corrupt majority [0 re.»
folvedly bent to compleat tlliéii Deflgn in brirzgiizg int/Je King, €91‘.
Doe theycall theirthreatning .RemonPcrar.-z]ce% {em to» the
' I-loufe, and the Declaration thoin publilhed to cxplainc the
. meaning thereof divers da yes before this, a fayinhg nothing
in relation to the Parliament .? and their} Marching up"-to
the Citie ofLo7idon and We~jlrni;:2]lerwith fo manyfiegiments,
of the Army, contrary t0t_he Order ofthc Houfé, ‘la doing“
nothing inrelation to the Parliament. By thisit feemes

the pafling of this Vote is the very point of that neceflity, 

owhich they take tb jtiflifie all their-prefimt avftings, in rela-
tion to the Parliament, For before that palied, they fay

\ tbey Med nothing; therefore We [hall be more"large   upon

We {hall’therel'oréfirfllliltéllthe matter in dificrénte beat  

twixtthe Propofitions df tl-1c"Ho’ufcs and the‘ Kings An-l
‘fwers.As the Propofitions to the King in the Illa of Weight

V contained in them all that fccurity which the Ho%ufes'ha“vel '
A judged neceillary, to propofc F0r,thcmlElves5thdfe thathave

adhered to them in the Warrés, and  the peagei 6”i’7th’e

wholg Kit1gdome' ah fo' the King granteth all thofe Propofi-
tions in which the main fectltity refieth, viz.

His Majellietgranted the firfl Propofition for taking off

‘ Declarationzficc. as was dcfilred. A .

His Majefiie granted the third Propofition concermningl

the Militia, as was defired. . W A
I-lie Majefiie confentcd to the Propofition dflrela. limi-
ting the time of the Parliam. tdifpofing Offices to :0, W ears.
His Majelly conflmted to, fiich A61: for Publike  -

and Pqblike ufies as fhoulclbé prefentcd Within two ylc-ercs, 

and incurred within the time. His

. i( :5 0| .4  
% His,_Majcflytkgran\gcd__% at it watdgzfircde to the; Ptopofitibm‘

 tmzcrfxaing Pecan.

H A §~Iit[.Lf‘1ajcHy;grant¢dttvhedifpofingbf Ofl3cqs in~Er2‘gA/«vita

the Parliament, fothat the timclimicted exceed not twenty

-¥C3I'.C§v I ' ' M V
 Mai3fly',grant¢dethc takfing awaytjhi: C4ourttoFVVards,

V ehavirg 1oe.t¢¢ol.._pcr mmm al!ovv,edtint«1ciw thereof, robe:
V mifcd as [ht Parhamcm (hall think fir. t

His Majcfiytgrxantcd todcclarc aga'ini’c tFcE31-Iof gfimtokzdt

'§v.P0_\'V€f and procccd%i__ngs" after an agreement with his’Hou"cs.

V 

 f7I‘he om:-1yV dfiffcrcbgc [6-EfI1a'inCfl_[h'lap0n' [W0 Prlopofitigns:
that .fconcer»;n1ng D6hFl'q‘f_£nt“S , and "that concerning the
“For ihflfitfi AoFtheti?:, ‘wee  here {ct 8dxvn<1-hat part of
ab: Kmgs final] anfwcr, \vhcxc1n.xhed1+tfi‘Yercrcc licth. g
  »,;A‘Dd«h1$'”M3}Cfly“'d0[bCO!1‘{CD[,“$794!£236 _[t'12eral{perfEgmfeqru1=
,pr£fed'ix tbejlmi ‘Tropic/Friar! [hall fuémtt to tmodezgqte ampe-

fitioxt aeeardégg tefuela rmet aged ‘propertiam ufltbej; emd the

tW0eHv#f“17’411€£'“ff???-T'9¢'.P""""4"”t’””"’"fi”°*<M4Is/7
leave: uibal; to fetch agreement, dtlflrincg pnl} that the rate: and
*‘-value nmffie mittfgated and reduced to better: .1-neder4ate Prayer-

|‘ —¢,'g;; ; and bi: M4J*eHy wilgive my that the perform infiflad

zupan £]_bi: two Hutfee, {b.~.~Il be remwrdfrem bu ['ata_t:cell,
and be re/trained from=e'emmz’rr_g twain-"n thevrxge ef‘tl:e"Kixg,
Queenet, mi ‘Prince! Ceurt ; “;4¢nc'1'-2,34! tbqrmuy nat'5ea7e..mi7
office fl"]9£"2)l anj employment z'rzhtl.w Smte» or ('ommou- wealth,
without advice and ennfint cf 60!]? /3:‘: 1.‘I.“t4f?.~.r of Parltemant.
But be’: Mflie/73 cannot n‘gree~tlM,t (lmfe who“ die the contra}/":fl9.17l

»~im:urr:fue/J*‘,]}'a2ere penalties. -at tot;/~e guilt} of hzgk ‘Tran/amazed
:forfeittI:n'r lime and e_/late: u"itlaeut.an‘)é ea;sacit)r ofpardan,
t at.in‘<t‘be~‘j2u‘d Prepafitian ire-contained tlitre being 4 permit} le-
gally ienpliel upon the firenc/J ofany exit? of l’.¢trIi.’2mer:t..w/ticb

-“lat! cfllajeflj intend: not to Jtfpmee wt‘-t/rmll. ext‘: tot/ae fe-

. awn perfl-mt mentioned-tin the fizid Vdtu ‘to 'éeeexee;tz*d, bi:
- wjllajefiz forth: pure if t}:ev’Kingd‘nm will confuse zkat~ttl.~{y
‘V

* PHI!’

mt ttbewfelve: ‘flit uf tlae‘ ~‘K2ngdem for ‘fuel: ‘Mme at

~ the two Tlfeufet [ball think fir, Jeflriag rtewertbclgflc that they

“ma; 6: admittedecto Cc»:/ofit:'onfor't}:e:r E_'fl‘tte.r; aird if‘-Ar}!
oftlmn /1:517 be treeeeded ugaimfl dttordmg to tire anetzntttnmi

;ghlvl_afiea"L4w _o}’*tbe ‘»Kt'zgdom, Ian‘: ]e_' f *-will ‘fl0t“l'flJ'¢.r§a.fi

   (:6) 41     K
33 hinder ihjlejell proeeedtng: therettpotf,-' hat that hit t/"7/l’a3

V 1}]?! [i7,g[d.]'Ugg1‘n an] .45} for the ttefitngaway of the life or T

eftote: of any that have adhered to himhit Majeftj ommot with
Infliee and Honour agree theretmtr.

A: to all other perfim: mentioned inwthe Propofitiont, 131!
Mujefly will further confent, that the}/hall not /it or vote at

’ Memher: or qfiifla-at: in either Hotgfe of Pgzrlianoeno, nor eon-v
. ximve nor he: of hi: Majefliet priv} Cotmeell, Ofiieert of State,

or /vedget, or 1'22 other "0fl5oe: without so ufint of hath Houfi-I.
Asfor all Glergy men ogeizfi whom any femdoloas
life can he proved, or otherolegallchorges, his Majefly
zvlll remit themto the Low. But for all othersyxrho [hall
eanfarme to what his Mojefly and his tm“ Haufes [hall
agree upon, his Mojefiy conceives fit zvheretheir lz'w'ngs
‘are void they may hehreflored to them, and where on} other
is ir2ez'tmhe:ot in 422} of their preferments, that thepdrt}
110:» dated of hit living may receive a third part A of h "the

profits, axle;/J’ e he he othernvtfe provided, that thus the one l

o may not want 4 livelihood, nor the other he outed of any \

living? zmtill {o‘r§9efitt‘ing prefermezct he found for eithor.

, In this .:mfvvet,though‘ the King dothnot: fully grant what
the Homes defitc. yet he conténts to joync with zhc Houfcs
in making them incapable of heating sany Ofhce of publique
trult without the comtrnt of the Houlés. .

And For thcic. whom the Houfcs ptopofé to~compout-1dw»ith-
thc King loaves them to finch Cottzpofitior.-ts as they and the
Houfcs {hall agree: on, which is thtfl‘ conditioo they are now in;
the HOLl{CS fotceing compofition upon nonchut by fcqueltra-—
tion of their eflates, which continues untill they compound.
And For thcfi: whom the W;ou~Fe:s p-ropofc-rd to- proceed againfl
capitally, the ‘King leaves them to 21 lcgalltryall, with a De-
claration, t.h..xt he will not :'»:t"=~ pofe to hioxder It which fatisficd,
the maine-_ gticvattcetaf the Parltamentt ( as Wcc0nccive)«f«c-
declared lintthe brlginhing of their war conccrtnng Datin-»
quents, which wastnot for that the King, rtrfitiitd tojoym: him-
fclfwith the: .Hotti'c:9s Pl1flifl1i'€'3g_ 0* T)-:1inqur:nts,hu: For tarattthc

A Kinghy force Of r‘-rmcst ptottttmd Dchnquen-zs From éufficcg

and on tho*;af.;.thr;,j Honk did dcfitc inlhb Propofition t.:-gt:c~.ar_tting-
~  ' Dcitnclutznts»

  . I 7.) ~
Delinquentsprefentedhtogxhe King at Oxford Q Fehralirj 1643: Was
that gear Majefly' leave Delinquents to a legal! tryal andjudge.
men: of Parliament. Aud wee tee notwhat cvafion From Iufiicc is

left to fizch as have made War againfl the Parliament and Law of the A

land, when the King firfl by a Law declaresthe Parliaments war to be

jut}, and al‘[e[w‘arNds leaves thefe that had fought againfl them to the A

judgment of the Lawes.

The fecond Ptopofition wherein the onely materiall difference a
reflezh, is that oFtheChureh,which flanderh ehus, 'z2.iz.. Tl9eHottfe: —

propofed that aBillhe pafled for the utter aholzjhing of Arch-1
Bifhaps, Bifhops,é't. and for [ale of Bifhops Lands, ‘1‘hatRe-

formation of Religion hee fetled hj A5‘ of Parliament in fetch  

manner as hath Hoafes have agreed or fhallagree up on : To
which the King anftvers, v _
‘That it is his ztdgement and confcientejhat he cannot (as he
fiandsjet informed ) aholtfh Epifcopaty out of the Church 5 yet
hecaufe he apprehends howfatafl new difiraétions may he to this
Kingdomanol that he heleeves his two H oufes tvillyeeld totruth

that [hall at manzfefied to them, if eortmtintedfl his Majefty l

doth again defire that therehe a Ca fa'lta_tion of ‘Divine: as he
hath formerly propofed, and his Majefly willfufpend the Epifco-

allpawer as well in point of 0 rdination of M zniftersjas in that

of Iarifdifiionamtill he and his two H cafes agree what Govern.
ment [hall he eflahlifht in the future. A’
As for the Bifhops Lands, though hee cannot confiznt to the
ahfolate alienation of them from I he Chmoh,yet he mllagree‘
tffat theproprtety and inheritancefloall by A3 of Parliament
he fetled in the Crowne to he declared in truft for the afe ofthe
Church—men., tohe imployed by his Majrfly,his heires and {ac-
eeflours with advice of his two Houfes for the ufe aforefaid, and
that Leafes jhall he made for lives or years (not exceeding 9 9
years ) for the jatisfafition of the Pmthafors and C ontraftors ar-
oordzing to hisfor rner anfmrs,or referving the old rents or other
moderate rents for the maintenance of them to whom they did
formerly helong, and for the future heztefit of the Church : And
in aeflthings elfe, his Majeft} refers himjélfg {Q hisformer an-‘
"' ”''" ”'    “*" ""' r C 2 ‘”‘7“”“ ’ '"” t   facts:

5.... Gail v.41.-u-on

- »..J-bu -A.

i.;.zr:.";.=~* “Am! in~» his hfarmerhzmfwérs dated.O&obcr .21 . 1.543.;
‘VH2-hcotxfentsoto the takiagtama) all Arch-hifhaps, Chatmllomcs,
Comm‘ 2z’*ies,Dcans anasuh-degns',andChapter.5, Archdeacom,
Giwlzatnktahd Pfehcnda riegandal Chzmters ,Cha.mcellaur:,Tr:a. h
f:¢>'erg“hSuccentours, Sachrffls, old Vicarsjh new Vimrstoftmy
Cathedral! Chu-‘ch, and all other their t.mder;officer5 , out A
of the Church of England, Dominion of V‘\/ales, and Church .
of Ireland,“ A A 4 A
In}: thcfc anfwcrs ( as wot: conoccive) the Kioghtakcs away the go -
vcrnmcnt of the Church by Arch-biflmops, Bi{hops,"3z«c.-by his taking
away thcitCoutts]'; the Bifhops hav,i.ng«noauthority to convent any
gocrfon, "fond For any witncffc, hcatet any caufc, paflh: any ccnfiztc ot“
judgement, or excrcifc any Aéts of Church Government, but 
3-lid ih thcit1Courts_,which being by. this anfitvct abolifht, th,coGo-=
vetnmcntt Falos. And For thcirpowttcr of Ordination, though it be:
nottahfolutcly taken away, yet thc cxercifc 0f"it is fufpmdcd, foot
as,it_,is,_tcquTivalcnt, for the Bifhops. can QCVCE cxctcifc that pwvcr»:
again: in .tEr:(gla:>td, until! they be tcflorcd hctcunto by A3 of Parli-~

-<4 _‘

aitjlcnht": And‘ if that power had beEnabfo1utciy~ taken away,—yct* if“ '

the I{ingandbothHohf’csofh“Patliamchttcfiorc it, it is againe eth-

blifht: So [hit tho" hmatih’c‘=dc‘fE‘& inthis an‘{wc‘r‘is, in thatthc King 

agree: to fcttlc the Ptésbyt‘cri.=nhGho«vcrnment onclytfor three ycatcs ,

and that at the end ofthat time. there is «no Government In the...

Church, untill it bzc ttztlcd by A61‘ of Parliament-. Wcsctprofcffch
hcre'mtharjthc Kings Anfwcr comes fatrc {hott of what we defircd,

an) 0fW?‘1aE.\NC {hall u?'c ounbslt cndeahvourhsh tollyto cffcfiaccording t

to former engagement, ; tthhcte lacing nothing wherein wee fhould t 
’ mot: £Cj“»yC€, then to Ice as the power and purity ofDotfir1n:,$o‘the

hcattiy of Order and goIdcfn‘Rcyncs oF,DiiZ;iplinc« flrcrgthtgcdh andt
cltéh1.fl1.t.by 3 p-ztrpstuall Law amonglt us. Yet the King ccinfcnts t

l.0_[hC»[f:[JiDg of this C_$overnmc.nt in this Anfwetibr to long a time 

as the I-I*:o~..tf¢s t'o:m-my in t.hcir.Otdinanct*.s prcicutcd t,ol1imhat1V’t4w._  
.,;_wtfl/g.,.gitd_ them.!c!vcs th1n1<._fit to h‘C‘[NI1Cif‘o. 

T;h;,i.S hbhsingkthc (rl2c"fl3E-'Ch.y()V"f the »ft3§Efcfthcrtcc hctiwinttthch Kinigst »

4g.t;out5t_t1cd . Pcatf  vvhlCh were” thé‘ fUbfc‘t‘3.' vofthc Hdu’fE5 def)-:t‘t!',,'
D?€¢m5- f'h€'5Ih-)h ‘Wct»fl1all in”=th'ch nc.*hxt‘epla'ct-,4 bcf‘orc‘h‘Wc>com<:

A“!W:¢:I and 4.1.5}: P“ P)fi{"iOfT‘9"Qf the" H£h“..3uTcf‘§h“ fi5'r+a fahfé hand -well t

KO._'[F10.rCt Realms, twh-czhtinduccd Us thétc'u,pon to Vote that‘, acct ‘

T9‘!':£»53‘” P‘°m*“=-Fir“: ‘>7 shit Yet: shsfloefs €139 9°! dstrrminc

I..-

(aswc *c~ancc:vc) the h 1v1*ng‘«nc“>"

l’u'rtllcrll‘Trclalt)"“‘ with hls"lM*a5~ ~

jefiybcfotc n concluding andilccldring of Pézacc; nnr was the“

l—lé:>u'fés fd'b¢s,und“up nc:c1:y‘,n1ac they “could notpropofc any“
thing further ,-l whcrcin thc’Kl'n’g's ‘Anfwtrs are dcft&lVC,—0l".

from making any new’ Propofition's for the bcttcr'hcallinglou1°

b:;'c3chc‘s;’Qr mnrc {ale binding up 1 full anal‘ rr’ghtmus*Pcace‘, ~
which a-sic doth appear: by the Wards ofthc Vottitfclfc ; fol 2

it ‘i:. allh mztnifcll to _bcc" the fnll’purpof'cat1dl frnfc Of-Llha
Fl<)ul‘ethcrcl‘n,"by“thclr laying afidc the formlct'Votc“(tlaatl
zl:éK:'>zg: Anfwer-:vare'_fl¢tiffa£l‘a»*}) 5} .1 Qgfliml upon lahlong’

A dnéate. And atthc fame ttmc framing and paléingthls Vote,

whagby-tllcy only lay hold ofthcfclargc ConcclSions,an~d dc- A

clnctlutir judgcrncntsl thereupon againfl a brcach with the
  King, and continuance of this unnaturlall W@'rtC betwixt“-the ‘

King and his paoplc,:'upon thcdzffcrcnccfat lafi by the blcfsing. A

of'God brought into fo narrow accn-upaflac. And this being:

true Hate‘ ofthc mattct thcntin debate,‘ and Our fcnfcin the *
Vbtc that pallcd thereupon, WQc"3jud~ged itmofl confilhntfr

witl10“nr duties as Chrifitians, and our Tfnfl its Members of
ll";ir‘laa"nt‘nt,ltc$ mlake'this:flcp (havn_'ing*fol‘mluch groundtgivcn

US) towards" thchappy hf. ttlc1n(:1I1'tl'lof't"'lii= Klingdlolmtlin Pcatc. ~

 This bcinglpnbl1ll1t*inlPrlht to be fo high a“c’rimcin Us, asv V

a,

tN”eje.3Hifi'C:" whatfoclvler the” Army hath done againfi Vi: ,’and“ <
Cod and Man bcingappcalcd untolthc'f’c*iti. Wlc {hill ht“rclay' A
dnwxm fomcof the Confidcrations bot*h~on~thc on: hand and 
onthit othnr, which carrycd-our1TIutlgc?mt’nts to‘ the pafsingg. 1

this Vdltcl;  

1." The advtntagcls by‘ thisproctedingtowamila cloli withll a

3th‘: King uilon what hcc“hath‘grantéd,-A arcjj thcllfavingllof the

K;ihgd“omc"’ oflrslalndlcbht (Sf thclihandsbf thtlbtloudypoxplflr 2

Raéclx, andtllptefcrxtleug jithtlo :h.c‘~Cn,wn bl .lEnglu’fid« :2 the re-

gainihg the ‘Ic'voltc“d,N*xv]c, and fccdbtfic ‘Of’ tbi:~‘S'e’as‘¥;l they .-
fuppott loflthc Ancient and well co‘n(’tituz.cd-AG‘ov¢rnmtnu .
of chi’! Ki~ngdo‘n‘1c-,7. the honour ol”.PaT1‘li*amcnt in making; 

Ptacc after fo troubltfomc all Wérx*lt ; and inn WCird,‘¥thctflop”'-

ihgthcinupfl fad mu: 0fEn‘§‘lzj'-71 blbu”cl1"l-thatctvcr was opclntdl '

.-

in this” Nztibn ;‘ ahd ‘J‘thc putting-lb‘?lthé-lpcoplcofthis Kingo ~

dntlncintbt pofl'cl§iot’t bf gncatcrl {tlcurtlty of their Lawn; and
ll._1b*_mics againfi‘ uncover growing
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pcwltllt pf [the Ki"ng“s'l lPtl't3~ ~
V sosasérn ~»

.(2D.

 l ,‘, —», l I ' 9 -. '~ ‘
rogative ,: then everyany ofour Anceflorsysinthe geemfl of 

their fucceifes could ever amine unto. e   l

The confequences vifibleiin our eyes, ifvve fliouldfupon the A

matter in difference have niade a breach with the King are :.
1 . The depoling, if not the taking away the life of the King;
what rnilhries upon either of thefe have formerly enfued to
this Kingdom: our own Hiflories tell us. Although for ch:
latter (which Wee unwillinglymention) there was never
‘any prelident for it in this Kingdome, not ever made by any
Proteflants in the World ; and We defire it may:‘never bee
done by any in this Kingdorne, being that,which from our
hart: We doe detefl and abhorre. We cannot but remember
in the end of our Warre the day wherein God hath givenVs

profperity,~the Dcclarz tions which We made in the beginning .

ofOurWarre, and the obligations which We laid upon our
{Elves and the Kingdome when we were low.
In thePetition of Lords and Commons prefentcd to his M as

jefiyi by the Earl of Sumfard ace. April the 8th 1 64 2. are thel'e~

words; w'z.. A l V
fhat you will plmflt to rejeél 4_//cancel: and apprrhm/font
which am} an} my dcragatcfrom that fatthftiltteflé and vytlcgi.
not which in truth and/htcerirj We have always: horn and org.
fi'fl3a’ to your Maiefill 4'14 [ball ever make good   tn the utterhufi
with our £5126! and Fortunes.’ L h
Page 143. n In a Declaration and Protefiation ofthe Lords and Com.
nmns jnffembled in Parliamentflecting forth the Caufc and
ends of their taking up Armes, to this Kingdom: and to”
the whole World; Oélah. 22. I 642 . are there words,*uz'z,
Page 663. W’: the Lord: and Camrnart-.c in this prafént Pdrliamtntafléyg.
664. hled, due in the prefixes of ..y§'/might] Gadfor :15; fi¢¢i,.:/45),,” of
our tanféicnctr amid the dtfcharg: ofthatgredt I rufi‘ whack /in
apex Vt, make lb“ Proteffdtian and @c‘£'lar4tian to thi: ’K;';;g.
dam: and Nation,amd to thew/sol: World, ‘That no private p.l4‘fl1"a;;
or refiefhno mall in ttlltmfi to hit gikfajtflirr ‘I’i:~r/an , no dgfigw.
to the prejudice of /mjufl honour and e/fmharity, ¢ng4g,,{V, ,0
raife Force: _., and take up Arms: agninfl the -lxfuthor: afgbj;
War-re , n'her:wi;h.1he Kingdom: :3 now inflamed; and We [mpg
aliwgerl defirgd from our heart: Sand fiml: , mamgféfltd in our
45334»: audprptttdingt, and jwcrrsll hnmhlt Petition: and Re.
' ’ F A r W  lmwiflrarrcct

-   h(zx>._
mnfiraneet to hit Ullaje/ly, prafivfléd our loyal!) and ohedigifcg
to ht} Crown _, redone} e and rofot’tttt'att to defend ht':‘?er_/3», 43¢

” fzpport hit‘ Efiate with our Live: and“ Fortune: to the ttttermofi‘
 of Our “Power.Cf7"e. . 

A Declaration of the Lords and Commons, intAofvfier, V &-C.
-Concerning the efl/legatiom that the rut} ratfed 6) 2/9; hp -4,-..

E homent it to mttrther and do-pa]? the King, We hope the Cotttri-
h were of the Declaration or am} that profefleth hat the meme of to
h Chrifiian eoteld not havefo little charity 44- to ratfi fteeh dfiay.
» dell, efiteeintllj when they ttettfl need: Iqtow the Protefiation taken

h} over} L/Wlcmher of hath Hottjet, wherein} the} prortoifle in the

 frefénee of A/flight] god to defined hi: (J!/Iajefliee Pg;-fin Y. the
” ‘Tr-oteflarion: nude 6] the Memher: ofhoth Hoof}: upon the no...

‘' mittatiott of the

Ear/e of Eflex to he Gem.-roll, and to love and‘
die with him, it exprefi that this Army was rmfl-dfir ,5; dc.

 fetter of the King: Per/ou.

» lo the Solemn League and Covcn=u1t,e for Reformation

 hind defence of Religion, and honour and happincfle.-of the

'% Kit; Thus

going hefore our eye: the honour end hoppitteflé of the King:

’.(11ajeft‘iet;Perfon and hit,'Iofterit},_iWe fhallfinoerel}, really

~ and can/tmlya through the grace of Ghod,endhe*vottr_in our flmerotl

plot-ex endenlltngt, to pre/Erveéand defend the King:, Jvfeje/Ziet
Perfotz and Authority , in the prefer-tuition mud“ tdtfi-.-m; of the
true Religion and liberties of the Ktngdom, that the World rem]
heare Witnejfe with our fanfiieueet that We have no thoughts-
or intention: to dintinijh ‘ hit Mojejiiet jig/'t‘ power and ‘greet-~
916fl:',(§'£'. % - ‘

And it appeared not unto Vs,to be confiflent with the publikc
Faith ofthe Houfes in thofe Declarations, not with other ob-
ligvaliiflt-‘z_3 which We have laid upon our lV9fflV’E5lI)yt1l‘|€f'(’%O3EhES,
Covcnantggg Proteflations ; to hazard the dcp*ofig_e'ftheKtng
from h.lS Crown 8: digoity,much lc{Tt- the lofle 0fhira"i» Llfc upon
the mrtking of ztobreach upon the matter in diffezferrtc. t h

2. We could not bttt fotefce the a:~p‘ax'ent l:;t,»tTetoF tht:9King-

hi dam of'1reltmd’snd+:-xtirpatton of Ettglilh ‘E-'=tor.e!'?aovstamgi of

the Pmtcflansz‘ Rt,-=4 gion out of that Kingdtwlfn tore the t«-;a1nw‘s
and power of P;.puts ‘in Arms there. VVeconno~. but believe
0UTfCIldCIflLifl‘C LO make at breachtef PM-*C~'Cf.d!l']gl umof httftflfs
dc-fire torclicvg ant1pI'cfetve cite testament of thofie poor Pm-
.”    ~  . -.  .. “flan”?

an.cstvtbi¢h9=b¢W§1?gm; Likct-Asa bat  PM 90 95: P99ifl1 Re‘
#1! st sW.hP anew! f?!=i&‘W MS‘? the .titiV:S§.f.WfiY .§‘ié?ufand§ 0?
. Itnnowccnts; twb9m.,t=bt¢Y~b?V¢ %'fcad'y»h1ur‘ih¢*¢d. Witlltiuihfie
‘ s before God and Mentor wfiat We hay¢_qop¢¢;nx cmicavpur.
ingAttott*!ta~yt.ho.1d t new W gwundstgivcn. Vmfizvatdts Ch.c’t.r‘lh£bC“|EV"lc.J
V tmcntm.t’aBc,acc. : 4 ‘ . V; A f V  f " %   A
3. We ,could«t not but apprehmd with far ,'the great ‘ad -
  ~V‘3n}:agc_Eo £hcVtPopifl1.3nd Eorf?e3§F’ I.P!cr:¢fls, a.nd”t’hcdi({_‘a_”:d~.
, yamagc to th; Pttrotfcflmt Cahu (E in,;thi.s.; Kwiqgwdgm 3‘gd~;h’gopgh..
_~;OuE'lhtc..VV..QI1.d‘, l;1y._4a bI;2.c_h,,,'l‘hc Ptr,_incVc', atgnd Qgzkg of Torlg,
the tW0~:.Dc¥§~"-H31-T3;.IQ thc—.mCrqw[_n,Aar_.§d.;_%(3}?xQ§.fn!1:c.nt4_vjofttlfircc
%'.sKingdomsw,t;b%Q£h,in F0rr_a§gg:$gza rhrtittd   t~itg;{i‘_s‘‘"ftiNi-
-; xt&ion.*~I fchgwgttrc, bc: G ill! cot1_:;;i;z} aged ; by.,,tAhé%I?i’a}r1u1j§tjg‘ iigfolh
- the mattcttttin di{fc.rctn§'..?t«m%ay bctft-‘:r}dtth‘c‘P.I:.inctmay marry
V yyith_:h¢ dap'ghtt—r_ofa Popifh VI{.ii‘ng%;-‘to Hrcngttbcta hitn%E.1f.botth
at Land and Sea by Forrajgn alliyagcc  s¢w¢4:;ich mc rwighthof
 his I nhcritanéc to ;th=tcc~ jngdo-ns,_i%st at fair: jnvitéttjotiw) unto
which the Papifh ’In§cr;flj.n Ixggqagprctvaa§zzng.gsymgrqctbgm
'4 advantage, together with the a~fliHantt %of'”tE%é I?W:.pAi‘I’t-£%ti%n this
' -.«;Ki‘ngdom; what can _btt¢cx;:g_c€i_c;d for VS__but W: o_ be Vc_c‘r£_;a:iJ11y“t&h‘c
» the Seat otft_Wtattrc. and 3‘!-3ft¢t4tt tiahngcrf tq _b¢% brotght undct
6 a Papifht yeah 9 (which ~tW;tV—b:Fttqch9 ALmi‘gh‘tty §3,bd:§gktcp
»us7fro'm.N  ..  ’  t  t, H  A  
' 4:*It<.tis, obvious that atbtcach mad:-at this ti-.mc:u'}'x(_?!g,»._[-he
; grounds afotc-mentioned, as; it will divide VsVa t;1oVn‘gff tau-r
t fcIvcs,hzza,td the luff: of/rclagxdg (0 it is hit: tolay at f'cg%uWn-
...dation of a Fcrpctuallbrcach bctwlact thcfi: tyvo Kirwgddmstxf
Ezgglmzd and Scotlanal ‘If there fl1ouId‘bcc any tnhoughtflf.
t..;,chaugcAof Gov:rnmcnt hm: ,J1ow contrary tarétthcgitt dc-
tlarcd Ptinctiplcs both of their State and Church’ thcrEtxr.;ttc.§!
ThctKing of Exglflfid.iS:'KingGFtS7o‘pt(dnJ , and they are under
  '»A'lltcgi%a:acct and-t-.C(.:»Y€fl3..,I,H£S for the ptct7:tv,a_tiontoF iii: Kings
Pcrfion and his Poflcrity as wtll as We :What dfl, rcncfsatc
Ike to cnfuc betwixt the Ktingdonics, "by ‘Gdvcrnmcnt agaana
~‘:.GJv««rnmcntr, pt“rhaps*T~itIcfigainfl; T_itJr. Ward Ont:-;Ki‘ngdom
.againt’t the other ?:;And this Kingdom b;‘ingiVt/thcgrmoré Tw.;‘I-
A ~thy,%'110{’t;.pf0b3b1¢I0 bee t:h£t:tS,cat whcrcin»aIljthéTtt1gi.ck
,.5ct-ans a‘nd.«contcntions betwixt both Kingdoms. {hall Etc.
%a§¥cd ;_ at; what have Wt in rcafon or confcicncgbofotc Godbr
‘Man to bcarcus out againfl thcfc many and Emitzcnt h;.=zard's?

Wt

 

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was. had‘ coiifideiration of the vafi’ debts which the :

Kingdome aliesunder, and forwhichthe Publique Flairh

f’tandsingagcd- Of which Wee, fee no hope of payment, ,
but by a fettlenment; \Vhat vaft fummes of money are owing ~
to this Army,and to all the Souldiers in the Kingdom?What 

multitude of extream {ufferers in this City; and in every

County of the Kingdome, by what they have lent to,and loii »
for the Parliament? Who by the continuance of the Warre  
are onely like to bee paid with more fuflerings and .
exaétions, upon what is yet left them: and every yeers ~
V/Varre is like to make new Malignants through difcons ~
tenting preilnres; deflroy more families; increafe the Pub- ,

lique debtto be paid 5 and withall increafe the Kingdomes

Wants, and makeit thelefie able to pay, until! at lafi the;
Soulclier feeing no hope of Pay, the People no hope of;
Peace, but generall and defperate tumultuoufnefle, fall a-;-

mongii both, by laying hold ofwhat is now agreed might;

bee prevented, the King having agreed to what is fatisfaftos

rye for the payment of Publique debts, and damages ,_

A Whichyct may :in good meafilre bee performed to fatis«-

fiethc Souldiers, Lenders,and suflirms, and ingagethemto
the intereli of our Peace. ..
Lafily, when We cafl our Eyes upon all parts of the
Kingdome, the prefer-it fcarcity in the Countries, the pover-.'
tie and diforders in our Citiesgor when wee look at Sea,and
behold our Navy divided; our Merchants robbed; our
Trade decayed, eonfufion threatning us on every fide,
Thefe made our bowells y.;rne within us, and call aloud.
upon us to improve the feafon and advantage offered by this
Vote. » .
Before wee conclude this point , wee muii give
Anfwer to an objection which they infinuate (to age
gravate the pafling this Vote, by us in thefe words,
Viz». . K  .
Although ibe7Ki7ag bade null} denyed fitclatbinggifivamfume of
zv}Jz'0'/9 by their Co'zJei2am(w ereto the} bad pretended /3) much zeal)
amlfiom other: by their Publique Fait-/9 giv/en,tl9q were obliged no:
. . -—-v D b y

19,-

1“!

,- t 2.4]  .
ca: remix. By (with. :52} Paper firm! to glancé at the Pro-
pofitioni for aboliflfing“ of Arch Byfhops, Byfhops, Scc. For
fail of their Lands, axtdfor fettling the Presbyterian G9-
vcrnmcnh We ctmnotbut obfcrve its? {aid their Cuzmmet
(and not the Covenant) to which they prmxded [0 much
zeal. Is it not their Covenant who have takcnit aswcll
as ours?We fay we took the Covenant without any equivo‘.

cation,or mental rcfi:rvation;and  Gods affifiance have on-V i
dcavoured and {ball indcavour to c;m:j_nuc faithfu‘].therein,:,

alth—oughthey {lien-1 here to {com both it andus. If they make
this Objeftion With any finccrity hereysvhat is meant in
the third P‘-lge oftheir Paper by thcfc words: -viz. Di-u'.rr.g

of tbafi: who/e Principle: were more c.rm:p.’y.mt to a cl0_/irre.
numb the King upon flztilfiiffiran in tire psrrficzt/or maize?!‘

cfptcially concerning the Form of Religz'on and Cburgb G0-
vernmem which the} main!) afiiffld. There they Iuggcii

that Wee fall in with Maligrlants to obtain the Church'-

Gavcrnmcnn, which Wee a.fY递c, and here they infi-
nuat: that W: break the Covenant in notinfiliing more
forit. o  i ‘H  N  
A But for then Coven"‘intt, wee fly the Kings Anfwcri
takes away Ch'ur”ch Government by Arch Bi(hops,Bi{11o 3,

&c.' by taking» away thcir7Courts , and fo farrc ta cs~

away their Power of Ordination that it can never by

revived again, but by an A3: of Pa~.rli.an1ent~: (0 than

Epiibopacy is divciied 0f~any_ afiuail being by the Law-.
of the Land, and inflcad thereof the Presbyterian Go-
vernment ish put. into A pofléflion by a Law for three

ycares. And" Wee fly, tthatthe King having granted

the reftof the Propofitions and fo mucii in this, the

Goventantidothe not oblige us to’ make» Warre upon.

this pointétto gain: what-« wee defircd after the thrgc
ye.-arcs , and flaall really. and cbnffizzézly endmzour to obtain
in our place: and iCalling:._’A Nothing -could. iiavc madcxttht
Kingdoms more irrtconfileablc " to the Prcsbytcrie
than _toihavcmadeat'hat thc. folc0bflru&ic nt...of_g the Pcacc-.53

‘ . an 

and Rate of Warre; ‘audit is evident, (rexceptweelheuid
put out the tffye ofottr tjeafon  that beficles the hopewe
might hziveo His Majefiies comming nearer to us in
this point, an-d in the Covenant it (Elle, upon our

comtning neerer to Him in the abfolu-te_ concluding and ,

declaring of Peace 3 the‘. Parliament, by what is

granted already, is put into a better capacity for Ietlingy V

Presbytery by aperpetuall Law, then ( as things now
Rand) they can rea{'ona~bly prefitmcy of by the continu-
ance of Warre. The power of the (‘Word apparently
threatning not only the def’u‘u&i0n of this Govern-
ment of the Church; but the being of the Church( if
Alrnigitty God prevent not) by firiking at the foundati-
ons of our Faith, contemning coniizientious Miniiiers
and Miniliery it felt; taking away their yMaiutenan-Ce; ob-
lirufiing the Reformation of the Univetfities; {lighting
of learning; and profefledly promoting a molt licentious
Toleration for all manner of Errors,Herefies, Schifmes and
prophanefs in the Kingdome. V  y’

This being our prefent ’condition,we ho we {hall be {tif-
ficicntly cleared from the leafi fufioition 0 declining in our
zeal to the Covenant, which we have tal<en_,in what we have
d one. For the Publicti Faith pa:{led't1pdntih;efi1le ofBilhops
lands; Wefay, that though the Purchafers’ might have all
lforded to have given the 131 me_ rates for their purcha('es,if they
tnightyoehave had them aflhrcd to them by Aft of Parliament
for 99 ferry, and fuel) moderate Kenn re/erzzed , ‘as the ‘King
itxtitnlztediin His Anfwer zyet , according to His Anfwer,
exprefling ffirther ajlztiafaéfiqn to be g;-z/an ‘to them; we lhould
not have contented to any (itch Aft ofParliament,for fetling
the renxainder in I-lim,and enfuring the faid Rents,until the
-Purchafersi (who we.rein pollellion,‘ and Pcill held by‘ the

fanae"Title.’ wider which they bought them Cfhould be Fatisgv "

fled. And in (_3.1ilt3“ti1Cy {hould not be fo fatisfied,We were not
by the {and Vote concluded from infitiing ‘further tor a full.

1 . J

«

Confir_mation of their p11rchalEs_, havingnever 7 aétually :5-
greedl with the ‘King upon ‘any "fuch Termss but
A“ D 2 “pref?

‘u"-overed, bee 22:“ like to ufee bi}: ezzdewour: to jfioile no 0

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prefl; it is the leaf’: to get a» full confirmation thereof,

and only Voted that "this was a fuflicient ‘ground to pro— '

heed fi*xr'ther.And now We appeal to the Pt1i'ehafers them--
'felves,Whetl1e,r We ought to have made an abfolutc b1‘CfilCl1
l.1.p0111.tl1iS point,or thereby {hould have performed our Pub-
lique Faith to the Whole Kingdome and themfelves.

As tolvvhatis fitid, that the corrupt majority would not lend am
Eare‘ to admit (I Tlzozigbt toward: The lajizzg dorm their own power, or
tendrirzg it ‘back to the People from whom they receroed it.
W"ee2mfWer,”that this is an unreztfonable objeéiion, by
'then1Vtho endeavours to perpetuztte an Army upon, the
$Ki11gdon1e:No1* is the continuance of this Parliament ob-
jeéled at large : but that we are not toil/z'7zg to render our Power
‘back ag.4i7z to the People,by which fl1€a.=’lS ( as their other Pa-
pers and aétions tell us ) 4 mw Repreferztatroe made by ‘the
Army; 12) that the complaintin effeét is, that we are not
Willixig to render the powcr put into us for the Govern-
mentesof the Kingdoxne, into the hands of the Army;
Which, wee contefle, wee think Wee ought not to due.
But as there is little doubt to be made that before an ab-
iblute conclulion of Peace with the King, an APC might
have been had for putting a Period in fhort time to
this Parliament: We for our parts, when the King-
dome fhould had been in quiet polleflioxl of thefe Pro-
fpofitions by Aéts of Parliament, upon the conclufion
‘and fettlement of Peace; There are no perfons living
‘Would be more defirous then our {elves to put aPeriod
to our fervice in Parlianient , and leave it to the
care of fucceeding Parliaments to preferve what this
hath gained to our Pofierity.

1 l Wee A {hould have ended this point here, but for one ob...
§e&ion more; which ismade by their other Papers againfi
any Agreement with the King, viz.

I That -avbarfoever the King grants in thzk Treaty bee may
plead force to breake zt_:, and that for any thing can bee dz'j5-

lav

. Li9~7J
by poligy of what we have gained‘ by the expmce  » fin anzm/9
blond. For anfwer hereunto : We fay firfi, That this obieéiia

A ionyiies againii any agreement with the King ,' thouglfhce
granted all ' the Homes defired or could riefite 3 and zogainft

anyiaagreezrnent betwixt King and people after a Vi/arre made.
It can hardly bC4ifl)HgiI}€d,ElfECl‘fi1Cit'ldiffCfCi‘}CCS3bUCt that for
fometirne animofities will ren1ain,and}‘a difpofition in thofle
who thinke they have lofl any part of their power. to re-
gain it )It being naturail to all men in powcrtoincreafe
their power) That this otjsfiiozilay as firong againit all
fortner Treaties with His Maiefiy for Peaceahafter the
‘s/Varre began, "and againii the declared end of theP§1r']iai-
ments Warxie;( and of all jug! W3r1‘€ Jd good‘ P_é‘aC3 with

His Majefly.

Butmo-re particularly wee fay, That the weight of this
objefiion , depends only upon _an uncertain ;COHi¢':I3U1‘C
of what may or may not bee hereafter, and the for.
merexperience, which this Kingdoms hath had ixiheeé
ping fhch Agreements, made in the heat of_ farmer
difierences, firengzhencdt us againfi thetfearexofy -the
danger of it. And though fometimes the Kings of this
Reaime, and particularly this King, have adventttred
to weaken {I15-ir owne Grants for atimc, yetthey have
ever beene regained with advantage, obtaineyydyand enjayed
in the times ofpeace . ' F A V i

The ufuail means whereby any of theKings of this
Land have made encroachment upon the good Laws granted
to the peopIe,and their own agt'eeznents,have beeneither by
placing coarruptjudgespr other Minifiers in the Cotirte of
Jufiice.‘ Who,thongh they could notabrogate the Law:yet
they have madcit {peak againfi it felf. and their good for

whom it was made, or elfe by the power of prefer-

ring corrupt Courtiers to honour and profit, to
flop the courfc ofjufiice by the Councell-Table fora time.
Both theic meanes are taken away from this King," by
what is agreedon in this Treatie. a y V V

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'The firll,ini the Propoution placing the choice ol'.Offi~
cert in the Parliament; whereby as they have the_Lawes
they dcfirefo’ they have the choice of the judges and Oflicers
that.rn'ui~i adminil’tcr'them. 4

And the fccond, in the Propofition barring the King
from nialting any new Lords for the future to Vote in the
H0ufe0fPecrcs, without the cionllentlof the Houfes, lwhich
are a firong fecurity againli a politiclte, as the M litia in the
Houfes isagainft a forceablc breach of this Agreement.

Lafily, We lZ1y,Tha-t it cannot be cxpeéted of an yr Agree:
ment lhould be m;1.de for peace lettl ed after fuch a Civil War,
Without {omen hazard of violation or interruption. ‘But

whether the hazards and dangers be abreach upon fuchw

tcrmcs as are nowin dilierence betwixt the Houfes Propel}:
tion: and the Kings anfwer, be not more and greater, and
whether (in cafe endeavours lhould be uled hereafter to vio-
late this agreement) the Parliament might not then with
more ]ullicc_, and greater advantage draw the Sword, then
they can now keeps it unlhathed upon the matter in diffe-

ncncc : Wee leave it to all fober minded men to ‘judge.
And to What is faid, ‘I/aazfxbry wanted not good izztefligerzce, t/J‘!!!
badtbey beerlxfitfliredlta inert ill in the Houf: am one: more, it may
lefigned to have p.sifl'edfi;me[‘Ia"igbér rtflflutiam to lay further fimm.
Jatiom offucb new qu.-zrrefl,” d an to carry tbenein t/rename and
countenance of Parliamcntaay arc;/Jorit} together with the K irzgx,
and qcccptable pretence ofpeecq; to am» men in, and tbm to [yam-
adjourned the Parliament fiar a long timeatbe eaeclnfion of all remedy
in the cafi: but bjlanotber W arre. "Wee Pay the Houfc at the pali-
fing Vote upon the Kings Anfwers immediately appointed a
Committee to go: to theGcncrall, and conferre with him
and the Oliicers ofthc Army, to keepe a good underfiand-
ing betwixt the Houfc and A the Army.l Which {hcwed the

full intent of the Houfe to proceed by all amicable waycs  

with them, not by force, but by rcafon. Which they were
fo far from attending unto, (as in duty and conl'cicnce they
ought to have done, and towhieh the Lord Generall pro...

mifl-d his readinclfe, however it was hindered afterwards.)
That

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That theyffeized upon one of the Commiffioncrs appointed '

to Treat with t-hem; affronted another of them, and left no
way for any conference, that might have given them the
the grounds of the Houfes proceedingsgw hich gives gr0l1nds

of { uf‘pirion3'that they were refolved to do what they had

defigncd , Whatfoever the Houfes had endeavoured I0 the
contrary’. t ~.
~ Thus we have the more largely opened the thoughts of
our hearts for their fstisfaflion (ifit be poflible) and eFpe-
cially for the (atisfaétion oftliolethat intrulted us in what
we have done upon the re-fult"of=this Treaty, and in pallingr
that Vote ’Decem£». 5*. Tlaaft/ye Anfmers qftloe King to the Pro-
pofizim; ofl'~o2/9 ‘Hazlett, are .9 ground {hr the Houfe toproeeelupom
far t5efet_r,lm2z22t cf the peace aft/ye Kingdeme; for which tree are
claxrged ta éetrgzy our Trufl V; to lzeefeljv-fertxerx to camplcfi her in
our wicked defigm, and Jlae like,   V
For betraying our Truft, as our lhit'hfulnelTe hath appea-
red by our fervices and fulferings at fovwec hope it will not
be accounted belonging our Trull to endeavour the obtain-
ing of a juft peace; and for firving our felves, our owne
hearts beare us witnelfc . that wee had not refpefi in this
Vote,or any private byallc towards our felvcs: to all that
know what th reatnings were»c-all into the Houfc, in the Ar-»
inies Ptemonltrance and Declarations in the entrance upon
this debate, whatpower of thesArmy was then in this City,
what Language was commonly {poke amonngll the Souldi--
ere? what Guards we then had,W~ill jud,ge:that-we had more

caufe to be byafled byfeare from doing our duties, then ate

thatftime to thinke tosfierve out felvesby fuch avote as this,
to which nothing but the forceable: impulfe of our eonfci-A

ences for the diléharge of our duties could have ‘led us. And‘~

we now appeal: even to the Conféiences of thofis, even the

Army thcrnfelves taltlwugh Souldiers) wihofe. adv antages.

arife; by Warre, are not altogether the mail compe-
tent Judges of; eonfiiltutionsfor peace.) Whether this were

to bringjn the Eitignpon his owneeTermes; or uponthe _

Kingdomes Termes? Whether the fine and 1:1‘: pflvltlculat»:

 it§6]iooio .

bf their account, be groundlof fiec€fft't‘)'~t0 Waite nt theirttextra-t

ordinary cot1rrfe.inl fecliidingtm from the Houfe; carryirag,

us along the fiireets of this City by their Souldiers, as Jf wee
were thei-rrCaptivc lhvcs; and toimprifon our perform, and or
reproach ourhztmes. ‘ A ~ A
Andto What they fay in the clole, T/mt 2‘/Jefi Zllmzbeiyw/Jo
4.:-he jet dctaizztd 2'72 CI-Ifi(.‘d} , they are either /5161)‘ WIN) /Matte
itctrze fiamzcrlj impeached , and  in ‘part ) jzzdged by the botzfé

for Treafan, zma'rorIJtrcrime.r, mzdnetver acgtritted 5 and czgazzafi

wleetwjtégz car2,m2a’7/er;v_[]2ort5»f.79alIprot1'ztce' new matter‘ (y‘ 720 Itflé “

Crime, or efle_f£m’2 who /um appeared mofi lafiitye end uaixed in
Cazmcellr with Name, again wbom a{fi2 tbzy are preparing; a rd [ball

j79t.2r'il]gjve ?_7’Z¢:7f.t(’7‘0J/:f)37‘tlt€C“lL1r impeachment. Wee fiiy, as Wee l

(iOui3IZI]OE but by. what wee have {aid already, were yet {land
cleztrc in thejttdgerflents ofall men that are guided by the
Bul:sofPxeli;;ion, Lewes, or Reafon 5 ft) when all, or any
dine know lwhatzirhe thofe new Crimew, they fay they can
charge for-ne of us with 5 and what thofl: charges are, they
fitythey are preparing for others5and when We know who
thoie fome and others are, we doubt not but they will nmke
theirinnocency and7integrity appears 'é1gaiz1l7ttho{'c Crimes

auc.jlCh’arges which they have eitherinj pretentqor in prepa-—

rationtagtiinfirthem. i A V T

Laflly, the Army who hath done this againfi us, and
have flretigthened their hands to purfue it‘; fey, ‘tlaey appeale
ta ‘Gad: And wee alfo appeale unto God (who is our
firength,and befides him wee have none other to cleare our
innocency, and prote8t us from violence.

in what we have endeavoured, wee may bee inllrumcm.
tall to the fettling of this Kingdom in 21 fife and well groun-
ded peace (wherein truth and righteoufnefle may flourifb)
Ifwe may contribute to the {aving of Ireland 3 the Union
betwixt the kingdoms: of England and Scotland 5 the peter»-
vation of tl-1e.Pat1iament 5 5 the.Govcrnment,4 and Lawes of

the Laiudr,-, thecme. Protellanst Ryeligiton, ande the Liberties ‘
of the people: Weehave outhcaitts dcfirc. But, ifinfleud of "

Union and Peace in the three Kihgdomes, the feeds ofa 1011-
V get

N’ ’ J W ' O . H ' 5
gerand more wafhng Warre 1s Iowne; 1f in Read of"Re.

forniatinon ofReligi'on’, Popcry; Stupe.rfii”tion, and Hcrefie

A _brcaki1-1 upon us; and that Government by the Sword in
% {‘ee‘;;1d of Law Sflavery andtyradnny, inftead of Liberty, bee \ ‘

our portion at the end offix yeares warre, (which We trem.

bfe t?'o thinke of) wee fl41all5h§un1bly” fubn'1it to the mgghtyt
hand of God, who in udgement for our finnes, a-ndthe ~

finnes of the Nation, reachethou‘t this cup of his fore dif-
pleafurc to us. And in the midi’: of the greatefl troubles,
have thisto comfort u.:»', that we did our endeavours accor-
ding to the be-if of our judgments and confciences towarde
the prevention thereof ; and for the iéttling this Kingdomc

  in a fafe and well grounded Peace.

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V Col. 1701772 fiircba
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Francs?! Bullcr, EYE};
gir Henry Cloolmelef; »
Sir yo/Jr; Clotwor!/jy, ‘ V ‘
Commiflhy Lioml Copley, 
jolm Crew, Efi};
F ranch Drake, E121;
Sir Pl/alter Earle, Kilig--ht‘.
NJtbdfliel‘F'ifl€J, Efqs
Sir Gilbert Germ-rd, Baronet.
Franck Gerrard, E5};
Thoma: Gewen, ER};
Giles’ _€j'reen-e, Efq;
Sir Haréot. Grimflone, Baronet.
 1{o!2.H.¢r/gr,Kn.of the Bath.
Q91. Edward Harhiy,
fiigtrfigrbozy Irlz}, Knight.“
Ifiééberd erI<;1r2i:;z5*’«o, ER};
9 Knight‘

COL. Eduard Leigh;

7“/aomau Laue, Efqs

H/il7z'am Lemar, Baronet.

Sir Sm/We! Lake, Knight. 7,
‘Major Gen. Edward/'lJoflE}.,, '
Sir jolm Merrick , Knight.

Sir Richard Ane cc, Knight;
Henry PeIlmm,El ; "
W iéliam Priefll}, Efq;

Wifliom Pryzme, Bfq;

Sir Robert Pje, Knight.

Sic B. rzjumizze lfiudtlyardl Knigh t
Sir ‘Iloom./to S come, Knigh t.

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..Edn?ard S tepbem, Efqs

_COI. William Strode.-

fibrz S winfize Efq;

lfilmr/e.r Vaughan, Efqa
Edward Vaughan, Eiq;

Sir W’illz'am Waller, Knight.

Clement Wallgr, Efq;
Tb0mM Viiboum Wrnman.I
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h Mr. P'eregr}+ne«I*I955LY337 « '

M1‘. _7oh7z H'oi=croft,
Mr. George Horrzerga
Mr. ‘IhomM Hodgffp
Mr. W'iL'“iam fonts?
C01. W i1/zknnjcpforz,
Sir Norton Knathpoleo
Mr. fame; Camber//,
Mr. Cope]! Luchgrzge,
Sir Martin Lumley,
Mr. Cha. Pym,

Mr. Henry Peck)
Sir j’ohnPagro'oe,
Sir Philip Parker,
Sir Wifiiam I?lc:_y1*cr5,.,
Mr. john Pelham,

S .' 1‘ Thomas Pelh am,
Sir Nwile Pool,

M r. Edward _PooI,
Sr. EdwardrrPnrtm'dgc,rr
Sir ‘Ihonm Pnrker, ”
Mr. '1 ho. Poo),

Mr. Henry Oxcnden,
Mr. Arthur Ancflco,
Mr. Arthur Owefla
Sir Dudley North,  
Sir R abort Needhflfllar
Mr. john Nnjh,

Sir Nifbfllcfl Mazrtin,
Sir Tho. Middleton,
Mr.fIho.Midd1etor:, _
Sir Oliver Luke,

Sir W3’!/iam Lorton,
Mr. I-Iemjy Luca;

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Mr. Robert Po-me-rh,.
Mr. john H arm,

Sir john Scimor,€
Mr. Sczmucfi Va’ Ttltlfg.
Sir R ohert Nap;¢er,r
Sir R oger North,

Mr» Tlho. Grove, ;
Mr. john Selmctn,
 Herbert Hay,
Mr. R olzert G enrwrgz
Sir fohn Burgcn,
Col. john Barker,
Mr. j’ohn Nclthorpc,
Mr. }’Vi//iam 
‘Mr. W'z‘l!iarn>E1/zkr,
Mr. Edward if/'in;;arc*,
Mr. john Whadden,
Mglfao Tlhomzrd» E?',:

A   Sirliichard Wz7n,h

Mr. Richard Winwood,

Sir dward Askew, ~ 
  czlph *AfliYoa2g. .

Mr. Mathew Allen,
Mr. john Afford,
Mr, Michrtel Bidnffc,
Mr. Peter Brool¢,;

Col. john Booth,

Mr. M0or.uBarrow,o
Mr. fohn Buller,
Sir Ambrofe Brown,
‘Sir ‘Ih omen Trevor,
Mr. Sim. ‘Ihclwell, r

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Mr; jl’Ioonm .'l,’bz'i2n,"‘ ” A “ Mr. Cl.-mrlcy Rz‘cl2_.,

Sir john Temple, . Sir IVII/ianiz ..?pr‘i7zg5

Mr. Tl"-om.15_ Temple, Mr. Simon Srzoxv,

M r. ._7ol3227l:01nM,, ‘(M 1‘. Than-z.z5 Srzzzcls,

Mr. Sm-mzsll Terriclzkg Mr. George Scat,

Sir l%l":m2pl:r}f Yziftoiz, lVz'lli:zm Lord Fitz.- William,
Mr. Ecl'rMr‘d Ylsom .15, Mr. W'i/li:m=1Hoxwifl:, ’
Sir. jolm Co2'bc't,- C01. jolm Fluid, V
}.?.clwazra' Lo. Clirztozz, Mr. Rickard Gcniziizgy,

Sir _}’ab7z Curjon, Mr. TI'bamz1»:iGel/,

Sir ‘]l30771M Dawes, Mr. F rd7zc;;; Gawde},

COL Wil/irmz D417/icy, Mr; Samuel Gczrdiizer,
Mr._7sb7z Dodrigde, Mr. Henry Hungerfard,

Mr. Sllaanm Earl, Mr. De22zill1~]o..’/in‘,

Mr. William Edmrdy, Sir Franci: Ha,’!ia~. ix”

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