SPEECH 
 
 77? 
 
 R. M. SAUNDERS, OF NORTH CAROLINA, 
 
 ECEIVING, REFERRING, OR REPORTING OIV 
 ABOLITION PETITIONS. 
 
 IN THE HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES, JANUARY 19 & 23, 1844. 
 
 WASHINGTON : 
 
 PRINTED BY BLAIR AND RIVES. 
 
 1844. 
 
SPEECH. 
 
 On the motion of Mr. Biack, of Georgia, to amend the motion of Mr. 
 Dromgoole, of Virginia, to recommit the Report of the Select Com- 
 mittee on the Rules, by instructing them to report to the House the 
 following Rule, viz : 
 
 " No petition, memorial, resolution, or other paper praying the abolition of slavery in the District 
 of Columbia, or any State or Territory, or the slave-trade between the States or Territories of the 
 United States in which it now exists, shall be received by this House, or entertained in any war 
 whatever ;" 
 
 Mr. SAUNDERS rose and spoke to the following effect — 
 
 It is my purpose, Mr. Speaker, to vindicate the 21st rule, and to answer 
 such of the recent prominent objections as have been urged against it. 
 Whilst I have manifested some anxiety to obtain the floor at an earlier day, 
 I had not desired, at the outset, any discussion on the subject whatever. 
 Hence my votes to lay on the table, and for the previous question. Not 
 that I felt unwilling to meet the opponents of the rule in debate, but that I 
 supposed discussion on the subject would do no good here, and might pro- 
 duce mischief elsewhere. In saying this, I beg to be understood as not 
 complaining of my colleague, [Mr. Ciingman",] who addressed the House 
 some days since ; because from his situation, his unfortunate situation, as 
 I consider it, (separated from the delegation of his own State, and the 
 entire delegation of the South,) explanation on his part was both proper 
 and becoming. But he will pardon me for saying, however well satisfied 
 he may be with his own course, and however much he may feel flattered by 
 the manner in which his remarks may have been received in certain parts 
 of the House and of the country, I doubt if they will prove equally satis- 
 factory to the section of country from whence w r e come. 
 
 But, sir, I am admonished, by the limits of my hour, to proceed at once 
 to the points which have been made in the debate. It is said, in the first 
 
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 place, as I understand the objections, that the rule violates the right of peti- 
 tion ; that it is wrong in itself, having been productive of no good, but much 
 mischief: and that it should be revoked, in obedience to the public senti- 
 ment at the North, in order to save those friends and allies who have stood, 
 so manfully by us in support of the rule. These, I believe, cover the whole 
 ground of objection, and these I hope to meet and answer in a satisfactory 
 
 way. 
 
 First : It is said the rule violates the sacred and constitutional right of 
 petition. It has been distinctly asked, and I repeat the question, What is 
 it gentlemen mean by the right of petition ? We desire some precise and 
 definite answer — not the vague and general answer which has been given, 
 that it means the same thing in regard to abolition petitions that it does in 
 regard to all other petitions. This, with due submission, is no answer at all. 
 We desire to know wiiere the right begins and where it ends. If it be, as is 
 contended, a constitutional right, which the House is bound to respect, then 
 most certainly it is susceptible of some precise definition. If gentlemen 
 mean merely to say that the people have the right peaceably to assemble, 
 and to petition Congress for a redress of grievances, then it was not neces- 
 sary to travel back to Magna Oharta to establish what none will question. 
 And I go further, and admit not merely the right of the people thus to 
 assemble and petition for a redress of grievances, whether real or imagina- 
 ry, but they have a right to expect from their Representatives an answer 
 to their petitions. But if am to understand these advocates of the right of 
 petition, as denying to Congress the right of deciding as to the manner and 
 mode of giving this answer, as well as the time when, then I am prepared 
 to contest the existence of any such right. The Constitution declares : 
 " Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the 
 press, or of the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition 
 the Government for a redress of grievances." 
 
 Now, sir, I doubt not the cause suggested by my friend from South 
 Carolina, [Mr. Rhett,] the Riot and Sedition Acts, as they existed in 
 the mother country, was the true cause of inserting this prohibitory article 
 jn the Amendments to the Constitution. But whatever may have been its 
 origin, we find it in the Constitution, and as intended to guard the personal 
 privileges of the citizen ; and as such it commands our respect. You shall 
 make no law (and the rules of this House, as I admit, are laws, so far as 
 this matter is concerned) abridging the freedom of speech. Yet, at the last 
 Congress, you adopted the one hour rule, and have again adopted it, thus 
 limiting every member in his right of speech to one hour. Again, you 
 have a rule authorizing a call for the previous question, which, when sus- 
 
Gained by a majority, closes all debate, and even cuts off debate at tbe out- 
 set, if then put and carried. 
 
 These rules most clearly abridge the freedom of speech ; yet they rest on 
 the power of the House — a power which belongs to all Parliamentary bodies, 
 of regulating its own proceedings. Your one hour rule presupposes the 
 indulgence of unlimited debate as retarding the business of the House ; and 
 your previous question is founded on the belief that any debate is injurious 
 to the public interest. Hence, whilst many have, and still question the 
 propriety of these rules, none can deny your power to enact them, as a 
 means of regulating abuses. 
 
 Again : Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of the press ; 
 and though I be no advocate for sedition laws, and would sooner see it run 
 into licentiousness than have it curtailed in its privileges, yet I suppose none 
 can doubt the power of Congress to make it an indictable offence for any 
 press here to libel a member by a false charge of bribery. But to the matter 
 an debate. 
 
 It is asserted that the rule violates the right of petition. How ? Because 
 it excludes the petition from being received, heard, and acted on. By the 
 Parliamentary law, no petition is receivable unless on leave ; and as modi- 
 fied by the rules of the House, any member may object, and raise the question 
 of reception — determinable by a majority. This is the principle on which the 
 rule for excluding abolition petitions rests. A majority desire to save the 
 time of the House, by avoiding this question of reception on every petition 
 which is debatable, and because they believe Congress possesses no power 
 to legislate on such matters ; or if they have the power to legislate, they 
 ought not to do so ; and hence the rule for excluding such subjects alto- 
 gether. It is the solemn judgment of a majority, adopted after argument 
 and deliberation. It is the very question we are now considering, whether 
 this rule shall stand as the judgment of the House. 
 
 But it is said, you do not give the petition a hearing ; and, says my col- 
 league, [Mr, Ciingman,] you cannot know that the petition asks for that 
 which is unconstitutional, witlwut a hearing. And herein, Mr. Speaker, 
 consists the fallacy of the argument, because it is not true in point of fact. 
 Your rule declares "that no petition or other paper, praying the abolition 
 of slavery in the District of Columbia, or any State or Territory, or the 
 slave-trade between the States, shall be received by the House." Now, 
 sir, unless the prayer of the petition asks for one of these four things, 
 the rule has no effect. The rule does not attack, nor is the Speaker autho- 
 rized to put it in force until he learns from the member, or by reading it 
 himself, that its prayer embraces one of these objects. The member is 
 heard, and, through him, the petitioner speaks, in a "brief statement" of the 
 
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 contents of the petition ; not by giving the argument, but tbe facts, and 
 what it is the petition asks to be done. It is on this statement that the 
 Speaker pronounces the decision of the House, as declared by the majority 
 in the adoption of the rules, that they will not legislate on the subject of 
 abolishing slavery in the States, the District, the Territories, or the slave 
 trade between the States ; and therefore it is they will not receive any peti- 
 tion touching these matters. 
 
 I admit, whenever a majority are prepared for legislation on any one of 
 these subjects, the rule should be so modified or rescinded. But unless the 
 majority are thus prepared for action, the rule should stand ; as I think I 
 have succeeded in showing it neither abridges any right of the people peace- 
 ably to assemble, nor does it exclude them from a hearing. They certainly 
 do not claim to be heard at our bar, or to have their petitions read and 
 printed, unless it be the pleasure of the House to grant it, as a matter of 
 respect, or with the view to its own information. This is a N favor which 
 the House extends at its own discretion. These abolition petitioners are 
 heard as all other petitioners, and are answered by the rule. The journals 
 of the House show the names of those who vote for the rule, and thus 
 declare to the petitioners who are in favor and who are against their 
 petitions. 
 
 I repeat, then, according to our rules of proceeding, the petition is heard 
 and considered, and the result is made known by the presiding officer of the 
 House, when he is called on to execute the rule. The answer is, then, as 
 distinctly given as if a vote was had on each and every petition. I ask, 
 then, why receive, debate, and consider each petition separately, when 
 the judgment of the House has been formed and taken against them collec- 
 tively ? Such is not the course of proceeding in our courts, where the rights 
 of person and of property are involved. Res judicata is a rule of jurispru- 
 dence, not only from its fitness and propriety, but because without it an 
 end could never be had to litigation. I do not mean to say the present Con- 
 gress should refuse to grant what has been refused by its predecessors : but 
 I do say, common respect for ourselves requires that we should adhere to 
 and maintain our own judgments. 
 
 But it is demanded that we should treat these abolition petitions with the 
 same respect we do all others ; and that we dare not thus treat the petition 
 of the revolutionary soldier. I will not stop to inquire whether the aboli- 
 tionist be entiled to the same respect as the soldier of the Revolution, whose 
 work he seeks to destroy. • But how stands the case of the soldier ? Your 
 law has declared your soldier shall only be entitled to a pension on show- 
 ing six months' service, or more, and his widow, on proof of marriage prior 
 to the year 1794. Now, would you receive and consider the petition of the 
 
soldier, if he only claimed a service of three months ? or that of his widow, 
 if married subsequent to the period fixed by law ? If you did, it would be 
 from mere courtesy, or with the view of changing the law — considerations 
 which do not operate in favor of abolition petitions. In the case of the 
 soldier, the law answers the petition : in the case of the abolitionist, the 
 rule of the House gives the answer. In either case, the reception and con- 
 sideration of the petition would be a useless consumption of time. 
 
 This brings me to the question, whether the rule be in itself right and pro- 
 per ? I understood the gentleman from New- York [Mr. Beardsley] to ad- 
 mit, if the petition asked Congress to interfere with the institutions of slavery 
 within the States, it was what we could not constitutionally do, and there- 
 fore such petitions should not be received ; but if it asked the abolition of 
 slavery within the District of Columbia, it then became a question of expe- 
 diency, and such petitions should be received. Now, sir, this is the very 
 question I desire to meet and to answer. It is admitted it is not constitu- 
 tionally competent for Congress to interfere with slavery as it exists in the 
 States ; so I deny that Congress possesses any rightful power to abolish 
 slavery within the District. The Constitution contains no grant or power 
 to appropriate the public money to any such purposes. The gentleman from 
 New- York admits the master's right of property in the services of his slave. 
 It is an admission any one not a maniac, or infected with the mania of abo- 
 litionism, is forced to make. This right of property existed both in Vir- 
 ginia and Maryland at the time of their deeds of cession to the United 
 States of this District. As early as 1715, Maryland, then a colony, de- 
 clared all persons of color within its jurisdiction, or who might be brought 
 there, and their descendants, should be slaves for life. Such was the statute 
 law in Maryland ; and the same principle prevailed in Virginia. The act 
 of cession by Virginia contains the following proviso: "That nothing herein 
 contained shall be construed to vest in the United States any right of pro- 
 perty in the soil, or to affect the rights of individuals therein." And. 
 although it has been contended that this condition only applied to the rights 
 of individuals in the soil, it will be found from the scope of the whole act, 
 that this is too narrow a construction ; and that it is intended to guard and 
 protect personal rights generally. But however that may be, I do not rest 
 my argument on that ground. I say this protection of individuals in their 
 property is secured by a much higher power : it is to be found in the Con- 
 stitution itself. The fifth article of the Amendments declares, "Nor shall 
 private property be taken for public use without just compensation.' 1 ' This 
 direct recognition of private property, and that it can only be taken for 
 "public use," excludes the idea of its being taken for any other purpose. 
 I had supposed the gentleman from New York [Mr. B] and myself be- 
 longed to the same political school, so far at least as the constitutional 
 powers of Congress were involved; that we both drew our test and rules of 
 construction from the same high source ; that, whilst discarding the modern 
 doctrine of the general welfare, which substituted the will of the majority for 
 the Constitution, we adhered to the good old Republican principles of 1798, 
 as established by Madison and Jefferson, and as carried out by honest 
 George Clinton, when, as Vice President, he gave the casting vote for the 
 rejection of a renewal of the charter of the United States Bank. But I fear, 
 with the gentleman, as with others who claim to be within the Republican 
 fold, what was then deemed sound in principle is now to be taken as South- 
 
era abstractions. Will the gentleman turn to the eight section of the first 
 article of the Constitution, and tell me if he finds there any power to appro- 
 priate the public money to the purchase of slaves ? Yet in that section is 
 to be found an enumeration of your constitutional powers. In that section 
 I read that Congress shall have power, inter alia, " to lay and collect taxes ; 
 to pay debts ; to borrow money ; to regulate commerce ; to establish post- 
 offices and post-roads ; to declare war." Does the gentleman concur with 
 that political class who derive the power to carry on a general system of 
 internal improvements from the power to regulate commerce ? or does he 
 derive it from the power to establish post-offices and post-roads ? or will he 
 seek it in the war power ? No, says the gentleman ; he subscribes to no 
 such political heresies. But within this District you possess unlimited 
 jurisdiction : here your powers are as omnipotent as that of Parliament 
 itself; because here you have the right fi to exclusive legislation in all cases 
 whatsoever." I shall not question the right of Congress to legislation 
 within this District, to the exclusion of all other legislative bodies ; but still 
 it does not follow that your powers even here are without limit or restric- 
 tion. If so, what becomes of the prohibition against an order of nobility, or 
 of an established religion, and the free exercise thereof? Can you have an 
 order of nobility and an established church within the limits of these ten 
 miles square ? And why not ? Because of the injunctions of the Constitu- 
 tion. And is not the injunction that private property shall not be taken 
 but for public use, and that on compensation, just as obligatory in the one 
 case as in the other ? The same article of the Constitution gives to Con- 
 gress the power to erect forts, magazines, and arsenals, and grants it the 
 •'like authority" as within the District. And am I to be told the land 
 ceded by North Carolina for an arsenal may be made the receptacle for 
 slaves ; and that Congress possesses the power of declaring that every 
 slave who may enter its limits shall be free ? If so, cannot you go farther, 
 and say they shall be armed and received into your military ranks ; and 
 thus give us here, what are to be found elsewhere, regiments of blacks ? 
 Can gentlemen be surprised that every Southern man should feel startled 
 at such a claim of power ? And to this end must it lead, if not met and 
 resisted at the threshold. I know the gentleman from New York said, 
 whilst he claimed the right of emancipation, he waived the question of com- 
 pensation. Now, with due submission, he must allow me to say this was 
 dodging the question. Your right to emancipate depends upon your power 
 to compensate. I say you have no constitutional competency to appropriate 
 the public money to any such object ; and, therefore, you cannot emancipate. 
 I do not question your right to pass laws authorizing their owners them- 
 selves to manumit, either by will or deed. What I deny is, your power to 
 raise by taxes, levied on the thirteen slaveholding States, the means of 
 purchasing from their owners, within this District, their slaves, with or 
 without their consent. I will not say, whenever you exercise this power of 
 emancipation within this District the Union is dissolved ; I use no such 
 threat. But this I will say, when you shall be so reckless of consequences 
 as to do such an act, it will be no longer a debatable question, but that 
 every man who is not faithless to his own household will stand to his 
 arms. 
 
 And now, Mr. Speaker, allow me to notice the personal allusion of the 
 gentleman from Massachusetts, [Mr. Hudson.] That gentleman has thought 
 
fit to ask me (for what purpose, I know not) if I did not myself, years ago, 
 introduce an abolition petition. The same matter has been repeatedly 
 brought befqre the people of my own State, where, I believe, it has been 
 explained to the satisfaction of such as have heard me. I was in Congress 
 for the first time in the years 1821-"22, when I received a petition from a 
 Society of Friends, highly respectable persons, asking for the abolition of 
 slavery and for the suppression of the African slave-trade. The President 
 (Mr. Monroe) had called the attention of Congress specially to the latter 
 subject; and a Select Committee (at the head of which was a gentleman 
 from South Carolina) was created on that part of the message. The peti- 
 tion was presented by me, received, and referred to that committee. Thus 
 far the subject was a legitimate one, and there was nothing wrong in the 
 matter. This might be a sufficient answer to the question. But I desire 
 not to take refuge under such a technical cover. At the time I offered that 
 petition, all was quiet ; the fell spirit of abolitionism had not then sought to 
 disturb the harmony of our proceedings in this Hall, nor to poison the 
 public feeling in regard to this distracting question. What was innocent 
 then would be criminal now. What I then did, without reflection, I would 
 not now do after reflection. The question of jurisdiction in regard to 
 slavery had not then been made, at least not to my knowledge. I trust 
 this answer will satisfy the gentleman ; and that, instead of seeking to find 
 a precedent to justify his own conduct, he and his friends will follow my 
 example, and promise in this particular to sin no more. 
 
 I return to the next point in the argument, (the 21st rule.) Was it, as has 
 been asserted, wrong in itself, effecting mischief, rather than good ? By what 
 process of reasoning are gentlemen brought to this conclusion ? It is said 
 a majority may grant leave to any member to introduce a bill abolishing 
 slavery within the District, and pass it in defiance of the rule. Grant it ; and 
 what does that prove ? That the rule is either useless or mischievous ? 
 Most certainly not. On the contrary, it establishes that the right, which is 
 so zealously insisted on, is in itself useless. If the majority have the right 
 of action, as I admit they have, then why trouble ourselves with receiving, 
 hearing, and referring these petitions ? It is because the majority say they 
 are not disposed to act, that I insist on the utility of the rule. My colleague 
 says he is opposed to abolishing slavery, and a majority concur in that opi- 
 nion. Then, I ask, for what end receive and consider these petitions ? Does 
 he desire to bring this out-door sentiment to operate in the House, so as to 
 change our present majority into a minority ? I hope not. I have no dis- 
 position to disturb the relation between the constituent and his representa- 
 tive. I admit confidence, mutual and endearing, which should subsist be- 
 tween the representative and constituent, to constitute the brightest gem in 
 the diadem of a representative Government. I desire not to tarnish its lustre ; 
 but still I cannot consent to see the bad feeling out of the House brought to 
 operate here, in order to change what all should admit to be right. Gentle- 
 men deceive themselves when they say discussion on this subject can do no 
 mischief. It is one of the very ends resorted to, in order to render the slave 
 discontented with his condition. And I doubt not the triumph which the 
 gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Adams,] says he has gained within 
 these walls, has already been sounded elsewhere. I beg not to be misunder- 
 stood. Whilst the South does not fear the slave, and believes them contented 
 if not excited into mischief, none are so hardy as not to dread the awful con- 
 
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 sequences of insurrection. It has not been the fortune of my colleague, nor 
 of other members on this floor, as it has been mine, after these threatened 
 insurrections, to stand by the anxious mother as she watched*over the sweet 
 slumbers of her innocent babe, when the smallest whisper, like the fire-bell 
 at midnight, beats alarm to a thousand fears. I say, then, to gentlemen* 
 unless they are prepared to act, to pause — and to silence forever these mad 
 disturbers of our peace and repose. 
 
 I come now, Mr. Speaker, to the last point which has been made in this 
 discussion, and that is, the call upon the South to surrender this rule, in order 
 to propitiate the public sentiment of the North, and to save those friends 
 who have stood so manfully by us on this question. So far as my colleague 
 is concerned, his appeal has but little effect. He has acknowledged his oppo- 
 sition to the rule — that he thinks it wrong, and ought to be given up ; and 
 his political friends at the North have voted against it. Yes, sir: if the gen- 
 tleman will take the trouble to examine, he will find hut a single Whig vote 
 in favor of the rule north of Mason and Dixon's line, and the head of that 
 individual has, within a few days, fallen a victim to the guillotine in the 
 other end of the Capitol. So to the gentleman from Massachusetts, [Mr.. 
 Adams,] who seeks to propitiate high Heaven as a reward for his exertions, 
 and claims the applauding vox Dei, to cheer him on in his heedless course, 
 I turn with a deaf ear. The gentleman from New York, [Mr. Beardsley,] 
 comes in a still more questionable shape. He claims not the approbation 
 of Heaven, but the plaudits of vox populi ; and from the signs of the limes, 
 and the billing and cooing in certain quarters, it is not difficult to divine 
 whose favour he seeks to gain. Let me, then, say to gentlemen, in all candor, 
 if the Democracy of the South are to be thrown off for these abolition 
 allies, all we desire is, to know it, that we may take our discharge without 
 asking. The call coming from such quarters as these, I regard not. But 
 those who have hitherto acted with us in good faith, and whose sincerity 
 we cannot now question, for one, I am prepared to treat with the utmost 
 kindness and respect. To such I beg to say, they greatly deceive them- 
 selves if they can possibly suppose any modification, or even the repeal of 
 this rule, will silence this out-door clamor about the right of petition. No, 
 sir. And I beg to invite for a moment the attention of my Northern friends 
 to the legislative history in regard to this matter. These abolition petitions 
 had been received, and referred generally to the Committee on the District of 
 Columbia, where they remained without action. This course was not satis- 
 factory to the petitioners, and they became so clamorous, that, in 1 836, they 
 were referred to a Select Committee, of which Mr. Pinckney, of South Caro- 
 lina, was chairman. That Committee reported three resolutions : 1st, That 
 Congress possessed no constitutional power to interfere with the institution 
 of slavery in the States ; 2d, That they ought not to abolish slavery within the 
 District ; and, 3d, That all abolition petitions should be laid upon the table 
 without debate. These resolutions were adopted by large majorities. Still the 
 abolitionists were not satisfied, and these petitions continued to multiply and 
 disturb the proceedings of this House. Next came the Atherton resolutions, 
 in the year 1838, which declared, in substance, that it was not competent for 
 Congress to interfere with the question of slavery in the States ; that any 
 interference with the matter within the District of Columbia, with intent to 
 abolish slavery within the States, was against the spirit of the Constitution, 
 and in violation of the public faith ; and that all petitions touching the ques- 
 
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 tion of slavery should be laid upon the table without debate. These resolu- 
 tions were adopted at a period of great excitement ; and as they admitted 
 the reception of the petitions, it was hoped the matter might end. Not so ; 
 when the House was driven into the adoption of the 21st rule, which forbids 
 their reception. "With these recorded facts before their eyes, I ask gentle- 
 men, in all candor, how it is possible for them to suppose the mere recep- 
 tion of these petitions will silence their clamors about the right of pe- 
 tition ? They might as soon expect to extinguish the conflagration, by 
 adding fuel to the flames. I repeat, then, there is but one alternative — rejec- 
 tion without action, or reception and action. There is no middle ground 
 that can satisfy those who are resolved to press this matter, whatever its 
 consequences. You would not listen to the petition of him who calls upon 
 you to fire the splendid edifice in which we now sit. Why, then, encourage 
 these new incendiaries, who seek to destroy the very temple of liberty, and 
 involve in its ruins all that we hold dear on earth. [Here the morning hour 
 expired, and Mr. S. was forced to take his seat.] 
 
 Mr. Speaker, allow me to devote the short time I have left of my hour, 
 in a reference to some other matters in support of what I said on a former 
 day, that nothing short of action will satisfy these abolition petitioners. I 
 beg, in the first place, to refer the gentleman from Massachusetts, [Mr. 
 Adams,] and those who think with him that Congress is bound to receive 
 these petitions, to the report of the Committee on Rules, consisting of a 
 majority of his political friends, and the chairman his own colleague, made 
 at the first session of the last Congress. He will there find that the com- 
 mittee recommend a modification of the rule, so far as to provide, that the 
 question of reception shall be considered as made on the presentation of any 
 abolition petition, and that question shall be laid on the table without debate ; 
 thus yielding the question of reception, and avoiding that of jurisdiction, 
 against which the South contends. I again call the attention of my Northern 
 friends to what is transpiring on this floor, to satisfy them that nothing but 
 mischief can follow the repeal of this rule. You will have a discussion 
 of the whole matter on the question of reception of each petition. How 
 much better, then, even so far as time is concerned, that the question should 
 be met at once, by excluding such petitions altogether. You have seen 
 the character of the petitions introduced on yesterday by the gentlemen from 
 Ohio [Mr. Gjddings] and New York [Mr. Beardsley.] The Constitu- 
 tion directs that all fugitive slaves *' shall be delivered up," whenever they 
 may escape from one State into another, on the claim of their master. And 
 Congress, by the act passed as early as 1793, has provided the legal mode of 
 asserting this claim, and of recovering the fugitive. The Supreme Court, 
 by a recent decision, has said this power of legislation belongs to Congress, 
 independent of the States; and yet these petitioners call on Congress to 
 revoke this injunction of the Constitution, and to protect the runaway slaves 
 from their masters. Such an application, one would have supposed, could 
 have found no countenance here, I desire further to call the attention of 
 gentlemen to another proceeding in this House — to the resolution coming 
 from the Legislature of Massachusetts, which has been received and refer- 
 red to a select committee ; which resolution, the gentleman [Mr. Adams] in- 
 formed us, came from a Democratic majority of that Legislature. I beg to 
 refer the gentleman to a different paternity for the origin of his resolution, 
 as well as to a different source for its revival. The House had not forgot- 
 
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 ten the petition of George Latimer, backed by fifty-odd thousand persons 
 from the gentleman's own State. Let me tell gentlemen, and my own col- 
 league, who this George Latimer was : a runaway slave from the State of 
 Virginia — a slave who had been pronounced as the property of his owner 
 by one of the Judges of your own Supreme Court ; and still that law-abiding 
 people was unwilling that this man should recover his property, and had 
 forced him to dispose of it at a mere nominal price. And yet my colleague 
 is willing to throw open the door of this House to receive the petition of 
 runaway negroes. And are we to sit here, receive, hear, and consider peti- 
 tions coming from slaves, painting in all the horrors of their imagina- 
 tion their former condition, and slandering and abusing the people of the 
 Soutli ? This may accord with what the gentleman may consider as due to 
 the South ; but it does not accord with my notions, or that of the people I 
 represent. Let me, Mr. Speaker, trace this petition a little farther. Not 
 having received a favorable hearing here, we next hear of it in the Legisla- 
 ture of Massachusetts. It there met a more favorable reception, being 
 referred to a select committee, the chairman of which was the son of the 
 gentleman, [Mr. Adams ;] and in his report we find the same arguments we 
 have often heard from the lips of his father. Such had been the revival. 
 Now, sir, for the origin of this proposition. The House had not forgotten 
 some of the memorable occurrences of the late war — that this same State of 
 Massachusetts had then called a Convention, which afterwards sat at Hart- 
 ford, in Connecticut. Yes, sir; during the darkest period of that war, the 
 persons there assembled, (as appears from Niles's Register, which I hold in 
 my hand,) had agreed on this very proposition to amend the Constitution, by 
 uprooting and destroying the very basis upon which the Constitution rests, 
 by depriving the Southern portion of the Union of that representation on 
 which is founded the only surety for their slave property. Yes ; our labor is 
 to be taxed, in order that its proceeds may be appropriated to our own de- 
 struction. Gentlemen deceive themselves if they suppose a free people can 
 or will submit to such an act of self-destruction. But, Mr. Speaker, you 
 have not forgotten the reception of those who came here to submit such a 
 proposition as this to a Republican Congress. The country had then been 
 delivered from war; the bosom of every lover of his country beat with gra- 
 titude for this deliverence ; the war had just closed in a blaze of glory ; 
 the star-spangled banner floated on the mountain wave ; and the American 
 eagle flapped his wings in triumph on the plains of New Orleans. It was at 
 a period like this that the emissaries arrived. Did they come within these 
 walls and ask this House to receive their message ? No, sir. They skulked 
 away in darkness, fit objects for the slow unmoving finger of scorn to be 
 pointed at. And this was the proposition, conceived in disaffection and 
 brought forth in treason, which had, at this day, been received and honored 
 with a select committee. 
 
 In conclusion, as I have but a minute or two remaining, let me once more 
 appeal to my Northern friends. I ask the gentleman from Maine, if there 
 be any here who have hitherto stood by us, why should they now give way ? 
 I turn to our friends from Connecticut, and ask them, why should they yield ? 
 If I appeal in vain, I turn to those by whom I know the appeal will be an- 
 swered — to patriotic New Hampshire ; whose sons, like her granite basis, had 
 hitherto breasted the storm — they, I know, will not give way. So I call upon 
 our friends from the Keystone State, not to surrender because a single soldier 
 
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 in the South has deserted us on this trying occasion. To the few, but 
 Spartan hand from the great State of New York, though threatened with the 
 public sentiment of this new-born Democracy, I would say, be firm, and 
 the day was not distant when they, too, would be honored, like those who 
 had stood by the Constitution and the country in the dark days of the 
 Missouri question. But if these invocations were all in vain, then would I 
 turn with pleasure and delight to the gallant and patriotic West. Here 
 Mr. S. was forced to conclude from the expiration of his hour.