Substance of the Speech... on the British Government Trade in the ^ast Indies By Henry i.tmdas, Viscount of ^elville UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT LOS ANGELES SUBSTANCE OF THE SPEECH OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE HENRY DUNDAS, SUBSTANCE OF THE SPEECH OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE HENRY DUNDAS, ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT AND TRADE IN THE EAST INDIES, APRIL 23, 1793. V713 >1- SUBSTANCE OF MR. DUNDAS'S SPEECH ON INDIA AFFAIRS, <* APRIL 23, 1793. JVlR. DUNDAS introduced his obfervations upon the important national fubjecl: of the Britifh Government and Trade in the Eaft-Indies, by ftating, that the difficulties which he had experienced had arifen, not only from the importance and magnitude of the fubjecl:, but from the fyftem which he was to propofe being in oppofition to eftablilhed theories in government and in commerce. Thefe theories, he admitted, were juft and applicable to other cafes, and yet he found it dangerous to liften to them, when he was devifing a plan of government and a fyftem of trade for Britifh India. *' No writer upon political economy (faid he) has as yet fuppofed that an extenfive empire can be adminiftered by a Commercial AfTociation ; and no writer on commercial eeconomy has thought, that trade ought to be fhackled by an exclufive privilege. In deviating from thefe principles which have been admitted and admired, I am fenfible, that my opinions have popular prejudkes againft them, but I am fupported by fuccefsful experience ; and when the Houfe adverts to the peculiarities of the fubjecl: before them, they will at once fee, that I am not attempting to overturn theories, though I am unwilling to recede from old and eftablilhed practice.'* "I wiih, in the outfet, te arreft the attention of the Houfc, and to fix it on the advantages which Great Britain actually poflefles, and then to afk, whether it would be wife or politic to forego them in fearch of greater advantages which may exift only in imagination ?" B " l 354709 ( 6 ) " It would be idle, it would, perhaps, be a proof of igno- rance, to maintain that all the advantages which Great Britain potteries from its connexion with India, arife out of the prefent exclufive privilege of the Company ; but it would be ralh and, perhaps, impoflible to fay, what might be the political or commercial effects of a variation from the pre- fent fyftem. In an age of enterprize and improvement, men are unwilling to hear of reftraints, but the wifdom of the Britifh Parliament will not rafhly relinquifh a pofitive good in pofTeflion, for a probable one in anticipation." Mr. Dun das then ftated, that the {hipping employed by the Eaft- India Company, amounted to 81,000 tons; that the feamen navigating thofe {hips were about 7,000 men who had conftant employment : that the raw materials im- ported from India, for the ufe of the home manufactures, amounted annually to about ..700,000 ; that the various articles of Britilh produce and manufacture annually exported to India and China, on the Company's {hips, amounted to upwards of a million and a half fterling, including the ex- ports in private trade allowed to individuals ; that the for- tunes of individuals acquired in India, and remitted home through the medium of private trade, by bills on the Court of Directors, or by other means, formed an addition to the capital of the nation, the amount of which could not be accurately afcertained, but might be {rated, at leaft, at a million per annum. 44 The induftry of Britain (he obferved) is thus, on the one hand, encrealed, by the export of produce and manu- factures, and the confumption of thefe manufactures enlarged by the number of perfons returning with fortunes from India, or who are fupported by the trade and revenues of India ; and on the other, it is foftered and encouraged by the import of the raw materials from India, upon which, many of our moft valuable manufadlures depend. It would be unneceilary to analize' ( 7 ) analize the articles with a minutenefs, that is inconfiftent with an explanation' of the general principles upon which I am to reft the propofitions to be fubmitted to Parliament ; let it fuffice to obierve, that the receipts and payments of the Eafl-India Company amount annually to more than fix mil- lions fterling. Under fuch circumftances, I paufe before I liften to theories; if I had lefs experience in commercial ceconomy, than practice has given me, perhaps, like others, J might bemifled." Having madet hefe general obfervations, Mr. Dundas brought forward, for the confideration of the Houfe, the general tjueftion. Upon what principles ought the State to govern its In- dian PoJjeJJions? and under what regulations ought the trade to the EaJl-Indies to be. conduced? "I wiih, if it were poffible, to ftate feparately my obfervations upon the two great points compre- hended in this queftion ; but I find that it would be imprac- ticable to explain my ideas of the Government, without frequently referring to the connection eftabliihed between it and the Jrade." Mr. Dundas then ftated, in concife terms, the nature of the prefent Government of India ; that it was vefted in a cor- poration under the controul of the Executive Power, and the fuperintending authority of Parliament, and that the expe- rience of nine years had juftified this fyftem, and induced him to propofe to the confideration of the Houfe the continuance of it. " There were (faid he) fadls and events refpe&ing- whida there could be no difference of opinion. India, or the country in Hindooftan, governed by Britain, is in a ftate of profperity unknown to it under the moft wife and politic of its ancient Sovereigns. The Britifh Pofleflions compared with thofe of the neighbouring States in the Peninfula, are like a cultivated garden, compared with the jicld of the fluggard ; the revenues of India haye been enereaied, and the trade connected ( 8 ) connected with them is in a ftate of progreflive improvement, A war, as inevitable as it was politic, has been conducted with vigor and brought to an honourable and advantageous conclufion. Should it here be faid, that the Company is an improper inftrument for the management of an empire : I would, (if they were not under the controul of the Execu- tive Power and the fuperintendence of Parliament) readily admit the force of the argument, but if I find them to be an organ of Government, and of Trade, which has experi- mentally proved itfelf to be iuited to the adminiftration of diftant provinces, the revenues of which, are to be realized through a regulated commerce, I am afraid to lay afide a means which has hitherto anfwered all the political and com- mercial purpofes for which they had been employed.'* In this place he again adverted to the force of theories in politics, and admitted, that though he neither was able nor difpofed to refute them, yet he could not feel it to be wife, to recede from practice, which experience had proved to be for the intereft and the aggrandizement of the Empire. Mr. Dundas then took a view of the hypothecs, that the fyftem of governing India (hould be altered, and enumerated the difficulties which muft be overcome, before the repara- tion of the Government from the Trade could be effected .j In the firft place, he afked, " Would not the Company, under the general terms of their charters, lay claim to the. whole territorial revenues of India.'" They in fact do make fuch a claim ; but he was by no means of opinion, that it had any legal foundation. It muft however, be allowed, that there is room for much legal difcufllon on this fubject. Under this impreffion he had afked from thofe, who to local know- ledge had added experience in governing India, and in con- ducting the trade ; What buildings of every defcription would . ( 9 ) would be required by the Company, for the purpofes of trade, and what would be required by Government, cx- cercifmg its civil, military and financial powers ? He had afked, Upon what data the compenfation for the build- ings and property to be affumed by the Public could pro- ceed ? He had afked, Whether the (lores required for the protection and defence of the fettlements were to be paid for, upon the principle of the original coft, or upon that of an equitable mercantile profit ? He had afked (upon the hy- pothefis of a complete feparation) What offices would be required for Government, and what for Commerce, and with the object of afcertaining the functions of thefe feparate departments, and the expenfes which each would coft ? He had afked in fine, W'hat burdens the Company had incur- red in acquiring and maintaining our territorial poffeffions, that he might form fome eflimate of the compenfation to which they would be entitled, or to which, inreafon and in equity, they would look forward ? He appealed to the Houfe, whether thefe difficulties were not of a nature that would be embaraffing, in carrying into execution any plan for a feparation of the Government and Revenues from the trade of India. In the next place, fuppofmg all the preceding difficulties to be overcome, Mr. Dundas adverted to the probable evils which the delay, arifing from the plan of a feparation of the government from the trade would produce. Recurring to the actual ftate of the revenue and of the trade, and to the advantages which the Public were deriving, and were about to receive from the Company ; he afked, Would not the fyftem of feparation create an interruption in the discharge or liquidation of the Company's debts ? Would it not de- range the regular progrefs of their encreafing commerce, and would there not be a ferious ^danger, that while thefe 5 innovations ( 10 ) . innovations were introducing, rival European powers might grafp at the occafion, renew their commercial efforts, divert into a new channel the ftreams which were running towards Britain, and rendering London the emporium of the Eaftern trade. We thus mi^ht lofe national advantages, which we never might regain. We thus might be the dupes of an idle and vifionary attempt, and have nothing left but the mor- tifying regret of having relinquiihed practice. He afked, in fine, conndering the diftance of the two parts of our Empire from each other, Whether an injudicious procraftinatiorx might not ihake that confidence, which fo remote a depen- dency at prefent had upon the fovereignty of Britain ? And whether this danger was to be incurred, merely becaufe it was true in theory, and popular in opinion, that a mercan- tile body was unequal to the Government of diftant Pro- vinces. His realbnings, he knew, were reprobated by the political principles of ancient nations, but the cafe was novel ; it was not through commerce that they received re- venue ; for commerce then was narrow, and could not be the vehicle by which a revenue could be realized by any Sovereignty. Mr. Dundas ftated as a third difficulty, in receding from the prefent fyflem of Government in India, the effect which the innovation might have on the minds of the Natives. They had been long habituated to look up to, and to reft upon the protection of the Company. We have now (faid he) after many a ftruggle in the field, and after the many experi- ments which neceflarily preceded the eftabliiliment of a re- gulated commmerce, the profpect of confolidating our power and encreafmg our revenue. Would it be wile to recede from the treaties by which we acquired our territories ? Or would the deviation from them accommodate itfelf to the feelings of the Natives ? It would be in vain to fuppofe, that their minds, or their habits of thinking, could could be eafily familiarized to the change ; no forefight could even conjecture the confequences. The Natives of India look back to the ancient fovereignty of the Moguls, and their confidence in the Company has its fource in the country go- vernments, exercifing power as a branch of that fubordi- nation to which their forefathers were fubjedled. Would the attempt to unhinge their opinions be liberal, or would it be juft ? Lord Clive, to whom we owe our empire in India, with a difcernment and a wifdom equal to his valour, laid the foundations for confolidating the Britifh Power in Afia by entwining his laurels round the opinions and prejudices of the fubjugated Natives. To this political forefight, his country is as much indebted to him, as for his viftory at PlafTey. This great warrior and ftatefman thought, that it would be wife to hold our territories by grants from the Mogul. He faw that all the Native Prin- ces and States, which had fprung up out of the ruins of that Empire, were flickering themfelves under the forms of the fallen government ; he knew that the power of granting or refufing privileges, no longer, remained with the Emperors of Delhi ; but he appealed to the rights of thefe fovereigns, and on thefe rights engrafted the Britifh Power in A fi a. If then the Natives of India paid fo much adoration to the fhadows of their departed monarchs, would it be wife or politic to attempt to tear from them their feelings and their prejudices: We might attempt it, but feelings will flow on in their accuflomed courfe. If the Company have been found a fuccefsful inftrument for the administration, of our Indian Affairs, might not the affumption of the Power by the State, (hake the faith of the Native Princes in all the treaties which we have made with them ; and might not thofe alliances, which had lately thrown the balance of power in India in favor of Britain be loft, by what to thefe thefe Sovereigns would appear a meafure, contrary to their notions of our national honor. In proof of the inexpediency of deviating from experience, Mr. Dundas farther appealed to the opinions of thofe dif- tinguilhed men, -who loon after the acquisition of the ter- ritorial revenues had held high fituations in India: Govern- ment availing itfelf of their abilities and defirous of forming plans for the future adminiftration of Indian Affairs, ftated to Mr. Haftings, Mr. Barwell, Sir John Clavering, Mr. Francis, Colonel Monfon, Sir William Chambers, and Sir Elijah Impey, the following important queftions : Firft, Upon what political principles can Bengal, Bahar, and Orijfa be held by Great Britain? Upon this fubjecl: fome of them were of opinion, that it would be preferable to continue the Mogul forms, to which the Natives had been habituated, and others of them recommended, that the Sovereignty fhould be aflumed directly by Great Britain. Second, In whom is to be vefted the Executive Power In India ? And here the opinions were equally different ; fome recom- mending that it fhould be in the Governor in Council ; others, that it ihould be in the Governor and Council. Third, Under what rejlrittions Is the power of Subordinate Legljlatlon to be exercifed? And on this point, there alfo exiiled differences of opinion, refpecling the ihare to be given to the Governor and Council, and to the Supreme Court of Judicature. Fourth, Under what title and In what manner ought the Ter- ritorial Revenues to be collected? On this fubjecl: alfo the opi- nions were at variance, fome recommended the Mogul Reve- nue fyftera, others the financial ceconomy of Britain. Fifth ( '3 ) Fifth , How are- the other Revenues to be collected f That is, the Duties and Cuftoms. Sixth. By what Courts ought the Judicial Power to be admi- nijlered in the Britijh Provinces in India? And here the opinions turned upon the different modes of adminiflering juftice, among the Natives and among the Britifh Subjects. *' If I had found (faid Mr. Dundas) that fo many able men, who either pofTefled the advantage of local information or who were employing themfelves in the purfuit of it, had agreed in opinion, in the anfwers which they tranfmitted home upon all or upon any of thefe fubjecls, it would have been an inducement to build a iyflem upon them: But from their differences of opinion, I can only draw this conclufion, that it is fafer to reft on the prefent fyftem, which experience has rendered practicable, than to entruft myfelf to theories, about which ingenious and informed men have not agreed. 1 * Having thus {hewn the expediency of continuing the foreign government, as at prefent adminiftered, Mr. Dundas then con- fidered the propriety of continuing the domeftic plan of ad- miniftratiori. He was aware (he faid) it might be afTerted, that though the patronage was diredtly in the Company, it was indirehly in the Crown. With refpect to this fubjecl, he wifhed only to fix the attention of the Committee on the fa 61 ; that the civil and military fervants were appointed by the Directors. He by no means meant to be underftood, as aflerting. that the recommendation of a perfon by the Exe- cutive Power, would not meet with attention ; on the contrary, he was free to confefs, that it had often done fo, and that the Directors had been difpoled to liften to fnch re- commendations. He was ready even to meet any objections upon that topic, by the fair avowal of the degree, in which the Court had liftened to the willies of the Executive Power, C and ( H ) and he would be happy, when that fubje6l came to be under the confideration of the Houfe, if any opportunity offered to ftate the extent of patronage, which had been, from time to time, exercifed by Government. At the fame time he ftated his full conviction, after mature confideration, that if the Indian patronage fhould be vefted and concentered imme- diately in the Crown, the weight of it would be too great in the balance of our Government, and might prove dangerous to the fpirit of the Conititution. It was enough at prefent, to refer to the fa 61, that the patronage, from the appointment of Writers and Cadets, and the promotion through all the gradations in the civil and military departments were in the Company. Upon the fuppofition however, that abufes of this power had been committed, to the extent with which the Company had been charged, ftill he would rather endure thefe abufes, than run the rifk of alarming the beft friends of their Country, by an undue encreafe ' of the Executive Power. Had even the Government of India remained as much unreftrained by the Executive Power and by Parlia- ment, as before the eftablifhment of the prefent fyftem, by the Act 1784, ftill, with all its imperfections on its head, and with all the faults which marked it, he would have pre- ferred a lefler to the greater evil, of placing the adminiftra- tion of the Government and Revenues, in the hands of the State. The cafe, however, was otherwife, the Company could nojtonger opprefs the Natives, by an unjuftifiable augmen- tation of revenue", becaufe the affairs of India were under the immediate controul of the Executive Power. The Com- pany could no longer augment their inveftments by defpoiling the Natives of the fruits of their induftry, becaufe the tenures on which the lands were held were rendered permanent, and the taxes on the produce of arts and manufactures were known and fixed. The Company could no longer make war, to ( '5 ) t to gratify the avarice and ambition of their Servants, becaufe their Servants were now made refponfible to their Superiors, and theie to the decifions of a Britifh Parliament. The prefent fyflem of governing India, both abroad and at home, has been found adequate to the objecls both of war and of peace. In fo far as that fyflem ihall appear to be experimentally erroneous, it can be varied and improved by regulations, calculated to remedy thofe errors, but it would be unjuflifiable rafhnefs totally to overturn it, and to enter on the talk of inventing, what might, perhaps, be only more perfect in clefcription. It may not be improper, at the fame time, to obferve that if the prefent domeflic fyflem has been found adequate to the pafl, there feems no reafon to think that it will be lefs fo for the future. " I allow (faid he) that when the prefent controuling Power was inflituted, the Commiflioners for the Affairs of India had much to learn from, the details of bufmefs, nor do I confider it as oflentation, when I look back to the embarrafling fituation of the Com- pany's affairs, to the difficulties which were to be'furmounted, and to the fortunate iflue of our efforts, to give it as my opi- nion, that itisfafer for this country to continue the prefent mode of government by the Directors, controuled by the Executive Power, than to recur to the fpeculative plan of in- venting a more perfect fyflem, however .recommended as plau- fible in theory or fplendid in experiment. So far as regards myfelf, ever looking forward to the prefent moment when a fyflem for Indian Affairs is to be finally devifed and adopted by Parliament, it was always my object, in all the Reports which I have annually fubmitted to Parliament, and in all the publications on Indian Affairs which I have either patro- nized, or authorized, to give to the Public evtry thing that 1 myfelf knew refpe6ling the fubjec~l, and to take off the veil from what has been called the Arcana of Indian Politics and Trade, that the plans refpefting them, in their iucceflu h, C 2 might might lie open to the underfianding of every man, who would take the trouble of perufmg and ftudying them ; it was from this freedom of communication, I expected the kind of knowledge would be diffufed, which could enable the Members of this Houfe and the Nation at large, to examine and decide upon the propofrtions which I was to fubmit to the good fenfe and probity of the Britifh Nation. The Le- giflature and the Public could then judge for themfelveSj what fyftem of foreign and dorneflic government would be beft fuited to the Afiatic interefts of their country." " It is from knowledge of the fubjecl: alone, that I hope for, or could expecl: your fupport. Whether my opinions have been right or wrong upon particular fubjects, is not now thequeftion ; but whether the knowledge, I have derived from experience and communicated to you, is fuch, as to induce you, when you (hall fairly and deliberately examine the propofitions I am to lay before the Houfe, to adopt them, or to honour them with your amendments, is the fubjecl: for your deliberation." Mr. Dundas then propofed, that the Board of Commif- fioners fhould continue in its prefent Coriftitution j but with one change, viz. That His Majefty Ihould have the power of promoting, to a feat at the Board, men, who were not of His Privy Council. It was in the remembrance of many of the Members of the Houfe, and it was known to them all, that at the period when the Board of Controul was inflituted, the object was, that the Members compofing it, fhould be fe- lected from thofe high Departments of the State, where, as Officers of the Crown, they enjoyed emoluments which would compenfate for the difcharge of this new truft. It had been found, however, from experience, (whether this was to be referred to the other important charges committed to the Members of the Board, or whether to their afpiring at the greater Offices of State) that the changes at the Board had C '7 ) hnd been too frequent, to enable thofe who had the imme- diate refponfibility, to derive the aid they might otherwife expect from their counfels and fupport. Though no member who had held a feat at the Board had left it, without having done himfelf honour by his labor and attention, yet he could not heJp wifhing for the aid of fome members to this Board, ivhofe fituations might be confidered as more permanent. Having thus given his opinion of the foreign and db- meftic Government required for Indian Affairs, he could not but offer a public apology for differing in opinion, on the fubject of the appointment to the Governments and Su- preme Councils in India, from Lord Cornwallis,. who re- commended, that this power fhould be veiled in the Crown. Two reafons had induced him to prefer the continuance of the prefent fyftem. One was, that the Crown had the power of recalling thefe Officers, if their administration appeared to be directed by any but public meafures. Another was, that a Minifter might be prevailed upon from private motives, or by felicitations from thofe whom it might be difficult to refift, to appoint perfons whom he himfelf might not en- tirely approve of. The cafe, however, was widely different, when a Minifter could only recommend a character to the judgment of twenty-four Perfons. This check was a proper one on the Executive Power, and obvioufly tended to make the Directors careful in choofing a man, whofe appointment they could avow to the Public. Thefe were his reafons for recommending the continuance of the prefent mode of ap^ pointing to the governments in India, and he left them to the con fide ration of Parliament as an apology, why he had adventured to differ in opinion from the high authority to which he had referred, MR. DUNDAS now proceeded to confider the fubject of the E.aft-lndla Trade, and' ft at ed the general queftion, Under what regu- ( '8 ) regulations ought the Trade to the EaJl-Indies 'to be m future con- dueled? He prefaced his obfervations upon this fubjecl, by alluding to the difficulties, which upon it, as well as on the' fubjea: of government, he had experienced, from the influ- ence of prevailing fpeculations and theory ; but here alfo he held it to be his duty to rely on experience alone. " I wifh not (feid he) to curb the fpirit of commercial enterprize' in a nation where it ought to be cheriftied and encouraged ; on the contrary, I wifh- to give it its utmoft fcope, confidently with trie fafety of thofe who may engage in it, and with the general profperity of the kingdom. Parliament has to hear the claims of all parties, to liften to the reafoning by which they fupport them, and to keep its judgment to one great obje6r, the intereft of the Bri'tiih Empire." * c If any branch of commerce (arrived at whatever height it may be) ihall be made a iubjecl: of commercial argument, and the hiftory of it not taken into view, like a law, the fyftem of trade may feem to be obvious, while the application of it will be found impracticable. If the Baft-India trade of Bri- tain is the greateft commercial concern, which has as yet occurred in the -annals of polifhed nations, it is at the fame time, the moft ftriking example by which we could illuftrate the jforce of the preceding experimental obfervation. Were a Member of this Houfe merely to take up the account of the profits of the Eaft-India trade, and then to fix his attention on the furplus revenues propofed to be divided between the Public and the Company, and without, looking back to the viciffitudes through \vhich the trade has pafTed for nearly two centuries, or examining the aids which the nation has given to prop up the credit of the Eaft-India Company, as its commercial representative in Afia, I can fuppofe him embrac- ing the opinion, that monopolies are v baneful in their fpirit, and exclufive privileges deftructive in their tendency ; and he has the authority of the firft modern writers on commerce to 6 fupport ( '9 ) fupport his plaufible opinion. If, however, he will look back to the loffes which the Company have experienced, or if he will examine the profits which, from time to time, they have drawn on their capital ftock, he will probably ftart back from his own {peculations, and refle<5l and deliberate well, before he will give his voice for depriving them of their exclufive privileges." In this place, Mr. Dundas took an interefting retrofpecl of the hiftory of the Eaft-India trade, and the fubftance of his obfervationsVas nearly, as follows : " The ftaples of Afia, (he faid) viz. fpiceries and aromatics, precious ftones, and wrought filks and cottons, had been in eftimation among all the polifhed nations, and with all the great Sovereigns in the ancient and modern worlds. As the darknefs which hung over Europe, during the middle ages, began to be difpelled, the fame tafte for the productions of the Eaft was created by the commercial efforts of the Italian Republics. By means of caravans and the navigation of rivers, the produce of India was brought to the fhores of the Mediterranean, and carried from the ports of this fea, by the traders of Venice and Genoa, to the different countries in the North of Europe. The riches acquired by thefe Republicans, in confequence of the exclufive privileges which they poffeffed, in the countries through which the Eaftern commodities had to pafs before they reached the Mediterranean ; if it had given them the entire poffeffion of the trade,, at the fame time tended to roufe the fpirit of enterprize and of difcovery among the other Euro- pean nations. In confequence of this prevailing fpirit, the Portugueie, under Vafco de Gama, difcoyered the paffage to India, by the Cape of Good Hope, and in a ihort time, not only annihilated the trade of the Italian Republics, but ac- quired the trade and the fettlements in India, which gave to Emanuel an exclufive poffeffion of all the wealth which the Eaft could then lend to Europe. " About " About the latter end of the i6th century, the Dutch be- came independent of the Crown of Spain, and fent their armed ihips to the Eaft-Indies. In a tew years they were the rivals and fupplanters of the power and influence of the Portuguefe, and at lad erefted their feveral, but connected Eaft-lndia Companies, carrying on the trade upon a joint flock, and under an exclufive privilege. "This fpirit of commercial enterprize, in a fhort time, induc- . ed France to engage in the Afiatic trade, and, in imitation of the Dutch, to eftablifh its Eaft-lndia. Company. The French, however, were not as yet acquainted with the principles upon which a foreign and diftant trade could be eftablifhed, hav- ing been accu itemed only to a narrow traffic with their Euro- pean neighbours. " During thefe important commercial transactions, England alfo became an eager competitor in the trade and navigation to the Eaftern World. PoiTefled of more national ardour and equally perfevering with the Dutch, emerging too from civil and religious thraldom, it determined to participate with the Portuguefe and the Dutch commercial adventurers in the pro- fits of the trade to the Eafl- Indies. Imitating the example of the other European nations, Queen Elizabeth gave a Charter to the London Company in 1 600. At firft, one or more of the adventurers were entitled to carry on the trade upon their own {hares, but in a Ihort time it was found necefifary, to reft the whole of the concern upon a joint ftock. Inthemcceeding reigns, the Crown frequently granted licences to individuals, and the London Cornpany had to ftruggle, not only againft the foreign Companies >of Europe, but againft the Engliili inter- lopers. At lail a new Aflociation was formed, under the name ,of the Engljftj Baft- India Company ; the Charter of the Lou-don Aflbcjation Hill remaining. It was foon, however, found, that two Companies belonging to the fame nation, neither neither could carry on the trade with profit to themfelves, nor for the intereft of their country. The London Company had, befides, purchafed up the greateft part of the fhares of the Englifh; the ruin of both would have followed, had not the whole fubject been referred to Lord Godolphin* and had not, upon his award, the prefent United Company of Merchants of England, trading to the Eaft-Indies, been eftabliihed. From this period to the middle of the prefent century, the trade to the Eaft-Indies had nothing peculiar to diftinguifh its cha- racter in Britain from the other countries in Europe ; the fhips of the European Companies, in general, carried out bullion and produce, and brought back goods from India and China to be difpofed of at our fales in London. Towards the middle of the prefent century, however, France formed the bold defign of acquiring territorial pofTeflions in India, and the druggie between the French and the Englifh Com- panies terminated, in our acquiring extenfive provinces, yield- ing a revenue of many millions fterling, and comprehending about twenty millions of inhabitants. This triumph of Eng- land was ratified by the memorable peace of 1763. The Houfe may eafily form an idea of the (late of our Afiatic commerce, at this juncture, from the folio wing flate- ment: From 1731 to 1741, on an average often years, there was paid for bullion exported, ..464,574; for goods and (lores exported, .152,609 ; the bills drawn on the Court of Direc- tors amounted to .167,410 ; and the amount of the fales in Europe was .1,700, 675. From 1741 to 1747, on the average of fix years, th^rewas paid, for bullion exported, .567,238 ; for goods and (lores exported .189,411 ; the bills drawn on the Court of Direc- tors amounted to .230,9 14 ; and the fales of goods amounted to .1,907, 105. From From 1 747 to 1 757, on an average of ten years, there was paid, for bullion exported, ..767,057 ; for goods and (lores exported -267,730 ; the bills drawn on the Court of Directors amounted to .164,482 ; and the fales of goods, amounted to .2,143,459- From 1757 to 1767, on an average of ten'years, there was paid, for bullion exported, .121,287; for goods and ftores exported .428,707 ; the bills drawn on the Court of Directors amounted to .432,891; and the fales of goods amounted to .2,3 15, 573. Mr. Dundas, having thus given a View of the Company's Affairs, when their fituation was merely commercial, or changing to the novel character of delegated Sovereigns drawing revenues from rich Provinces, to be realifed in Britain through the medium of trade, (after again adverting to the magnitude of our poffefTions, and to the acquifition of the Duannee) obferved, that the Company was the instrument of Government, remitting a revenue which was to furniih a. capital for trade, exclusively of the exports upon which they had formerly depended. Adverting again to the laudable interferences of Parliament to obtain, upon evidence, a knowledge of the actual value of the Britiih Pofleflions. in India, and to the fucceffive regulations in different Ads, down to the period when the prefent Syftem of Controul was eflablifhed, in 1784 ; he concluded " That the Company had now become the organ by which the Indian Empire of Bri- tain ought to be adminiftered." Upon this fyftem Mr. Dundas remarked, there were a variety of opinions : by one fet of men it was maintained* that ^ it was a political abfurdity, to entruft to a Com- mercial Aflbciation, the Government of an Empire; fmce. the very nature of this power rendered it impracticable for the Company's fervants, either to conduct commerce upon proper: C *3 ) proper principles, or to govern our fubjects in India wifely or well. " But is it not true, faid he, that the reve- nues of India mud pafs to Britain through the medium of trade ? Is it not true, that the manufacturers of Britain, \vhether we view them as exporting produce wrought up from the materials of our own country, or as drawing their gains from produce that depends on raw materials imported from the Eaft, have become rich ? Is it not true, that the tribute from India cannot be realifed in Britain, with iafety to the State, through any other medium, but that of a re- gulated trade ? Is it not true, that from the acquifition of the Duannee to the prefent times (particularly fmce the controul of the Executive Power has been fuccefsfuily employed to prevent abufes in the adminiftration of the Government and Revenues of India) that the trade has been rapidly improving and encreafing, and that Parliament have had annually the evidence of this fact before them ? The inference is obvious, that in the trade, as well as in the government of India, Experience may be at variance with plaufible Speculation ; but that in trade, as well as in government, we muit rely on Here Mr. Dundas laid before the Houfe the following in- terelting ftatement ; by which, he obferved, the encreafe of the trade, fmce the acquifition of the Duannee, would be fully illuftrated. From 1767 to 1777, on an average often years, there was paid, for bullion exported, .110,042; for goods and (lores exported .489,081 ; the amount of the bills, drawn on the Court of Directors, was .458,768 ; and of the fales in Eu- rope .3, 3 29, 13 6. From 1777 to 1784, on an average of feven years, there was paid for bullion .5,653 ; for goods and ftores exported .500,089; the bills drawn on the Court of Directors amounted to .76 1, 425 ; and the fales of goods to .3, 185,556. D 2 From *4 From 1784 to 1790, on an average of five years, there was- paid, for bullion exported, .617,930 ; for goods and ftores exported -63.5,145, the bills drawn on the Court of Di- rectors amounted to . 195515985 ; and the fales of goods amounted to .4, 572,466. From 1790 to 1793, on an average of three years,, there was paid, for bullion exported, ..466,893 ; for goods and ftores exported -935,776 ; the bills drawn on the Court of Directors amounted to .668,366; and the fales of goods, amounted to .5, 103,094. Having thus explained upon evidence, what the exifting interefts of Britain are in India, Mr. Dundas proceeded to examine the arguments which had been laid before him, upon the fubjecl: of the open Trade. In the firft place, he had been told, that the revenue might pafs through the medium of the Company, though their exclufive privileges were to ceafe and determine ; and if this were not admitted, that the revenue might be diftributed among the Private Merchants, and through them be, rea- lifed in Britain, as fafely, as through the Company. Before he could aflent to either of thefe opinions, it became ne- ceffary for him to advert to the coniequences of admitting them. " I am of opinion, faid he, after viewing the magni- tude of the revenue and of the furplus, after difcovering the degree in which the Public is to participate of it, and after having had it proved to me upon evidence, that the Company is the moft fafe vehicle, through which, the remittances of this furplus can be made either to itfelf or to the Public ; that it would be unwife to try the experiment of refort- ing to any other fyftem." " But allowing, that the open trade might become a means of realifmg the revenue in Britain, there were coniequences both to Britain and to India, which might reiult refult from the experiment, and they would readily be forefeen by the Houfe. Ir the inhabitants of Britain were to be per- mitted freely to emigrate to India, colonization muft neceffarily take place." Mr. Dundas wifhed therefore, to know, whether this was an experiment that ought to be tried ? and, whether the proofs which we have had, of the pernicious effects of emi* gration, would not be multiplied by fuch a meafure ? Setting afide, however, this probable evil, the more obvious one of the effect of colonization upon India itfelf, muft be delibe- rately examined, before we can adventure to authorize it. " All the gentlemen, he faid, who have refided in India, with wh9m I have converfed, and all the information which I have received from thofe, at prefent in the moft important ftations in India, either political or commercial, agree, that an unreftrained liberty to the Europeans, to emigrate to and to fettle among the Indians, would, in a fhort time, annihi- late the refpe6t paid to the Britifh character, and ruin our Indian Empire. Indeed, we have only to advert to what muft be the fituation of the fettlers and of the natives, and we ihall at once difcover, that this opinion has a folid foun- dation." If numbers were to emigrate to India, they muft find out habitations and occupations in that country. In acquiring the former, they muft drive the natives from the fpots, upon which they and their forefathers have lived ; and in pur- fuing the latter, the rivalfliip would enhance the price of labor, to the degree, which would foon render the profits from Indian imports almoft nothing. But fuppofmg thefe to be only probable mifchiefs, there is one, which is certain, and which materially affects the prefervation of our Indian Empire. An indifcriminate and unreftrained colonization would deftroy that refpect, or rather eradicate that feeling,, which is fo general among the Natives, of the fuperiority of the European character. It is a fact, that upon this feeling, of the fuperiority of the Europeans, the prefervatlon of our Empire depends, and it is owing to the limited number of them, and to their being the covenanted fervants of the Company, or licenfed inhabitants, that the idea of the fuperiority is fo general, or that it is fo effectual a means of adminiftering the Government of our Provinces. " I cannot, faid he, illuftrate thefe obfervations better, than by referring -to the correfpondence between Meer Coflim and Mr. Vanfittart; the Nabob complained to this Go- vernor, that the Natives, were opprefled and har ailed by numbers of vagrant Europeans ; thinking perhaps, that the Nabob was alarmed, without reafon, Mr. Vanfittart replied, that thefe Europeans were too contemptible to deferve notice; ' They may be contemptible, anfwered the Nabob, in your opinion, but the dog of an European is of confequence among the timid Natives of this Coun- try.' If then the fuperiority of the European character mud be maintained in India, it is impoflible for us to think of authorizing an unreftrained emigration." There is one view of the fubjecl:, which muft forcibly flrike every man's obfervation the moment it is brought before the Houfe. Adventurers finding their hopes difap- pointed, and that the fortunes they had promifed themfelves exifted only in their own imagination, being too without re- fource, might feek, and would find employment in the armies of the Mahrattahs and of Tippoo Sultan. " Would it be wife then, to fill the armies of our rivals in India with re- cruits from Europe, or can we luppoie, that the open trader would confcientioufly hefitate to lupply the native powers with the military (tores, by which their armies might firft refill us, and then wreft from us the Empire which we pofleis." In In the next place, Mr. Dundas ftated, that he had been told, the exports of Britifh produce would be encreafed, if the trade were laid open. However fpecious this opinion might appear, it became necefiary that Parliament (hould know the fact, and for this purpoie, he would felect two or three articles, of what might certainly be confidered as the principal articles of Britiih manufacture. Woollens would be allowed to be the firft of our ftaple commodities. It was eafy for the fpeculator, while he merely confidered the extent of our dominions in India, and that they were inhabited by twenty millions of our fubjects, to fancy, that here he would find un- bounded fales for his goods ; but he reflected not, that the climate was againft the wear of woollens, he reflected not, that the religious prejudices of many of the calls of the Na- tives, forbad their ufmg them ; he knew not, perhaps, that the drefs of the Natives is as fixed and local, as their manners. It was eafy alfo for the fpeculator to fuppofe, that in fuch a country as India, he could find a market for any quantity of earthen ware, but he did not reflect on the bulk of the com- modity ; he had not eftimated the amount of the freight of it, or if he had, perhaps he did not know that the religious prejudices qf many of the cafts forbad their ufmg, what had been fabricated by the impure hands of infidel flrangers. It was eafy, in like manner, for the fpeculator to imagine, that if he could find a fale for his cottons in India, his riches would keep pace with his defires ; but did he hope to rival his matter in an art, in which he was only an imitator, or could he ex- pect, (comparing the high price of labour in Europe with the low price of it in India) that he could underfell him there. There were fome articles of Europe manufactured cottons,, which, from the fuperior tafte and elegance of the patterns, might find a fale in India, and he hoped they would encreaie ; but from the nature of the cafe, the fuperiority of the Indian manufactures, muft remain with the Natives. " I mention thefe particulars, faid Mr. Dundas, merely to moderate th expec- expectations which have been entertained in confequence of the fpeculation of an open trade to India." In the third place, Mr. Dundas obferved, that it had been a favorite topic of late, to declaim againft monopolies, and to confound what was truly a monopoly, with the exclu five privilege of the Eaft-India Company. A monopoly, he ob- ferved, gives to individuals, or to affociations, the power of bringing, what quantity of goods they may chule into the market, and of affixing on them whatever price their avarice may fuggeft. The Houfe, however, would at once diftinguiih between this narrow afpect of a monopoly, and an iexcluiive privilege given by the Legiflature to a Company, proceeding upon a capital equal to the magnitude of the concern, and fubjeet to regulation, and to public controul : This diftinction being admitted, the Legiflature will not bedifpofed rafhly to change a current which is turning the greateft wheel of Britifh commerce, which is giving food to induftry and wealth to regulated enterprize, and which is about to become, independently of what we draw from duties and cuftoms, one of the refources of the Nation. It had been of late a fafhion in our manufacturing towns, to hold meetings, and to come to refolutions, that the ex- clufive privilege of the Eaft-India Company was a monopoly, and that it was for the intereft of the manufacturers, this monopoly fhould be done away. " I would with to aik the projectors of fuch refolutions, whether they have examined what the Company has been, and what they now are ? To whom did they owe the riches which they had acquired from the cotton manufactures ? to the Eaft-India Company ! To whom had Britain been "indebted for a great increafe of its fhipping ? to the Eaft-India Company ! If from other fources our induftry and navigation have been encreafed, the original obligation is not, on that account the lefs, and ought 4 not not to be forgotten. Some fmall gratitude, furely, is due for all thefe benefits." In eftimating tbe merits of the Eaft-India Company, Mr. Dundas dated his wifhes, that thofe who form a different opinion, from that which he entertained on the fubject, would examine accurately what was the real proportion of gain, from the India trade, received by the Proprietors of Eaft-India flock. It ought to be remembered on this fubje^l, that the capital is now five millions, and the whole dividend, in compensation for fuch a capital, and for all the rifks and dangers which have repeatedly attended the trade, is not more than .400,000, out of a fum of no lefs than .3,750,000, which is portioned out among various other interefts. Of this fum, the merchants and {hip-owners annually receive about .850,000; the charges of merchandizes amount to. 3 50,000; the goods exported, including private trade, at the molt mode- rate computation, do not amount to lefs than . i ,550,000, and the cuftoms and duties paid to the Public are more than a million annually. Such being the diftribution of the returns on the India trade, it would be abfurd to impute to the Eaft- India Company, any charge of receiving exorbitant gains, at the expenfe of the Public or of individuals of any defcription. In fact, they have not received, nor are they likely to receive the legal intereft of the money, daily paid as the price of their flock. It is believed, few individuals would be iatisfied with fuch a return on a commercial capital, and it behoves think- ing men to confider well, before they allow themfelves to be led away by general declamation, on topics, which are to tally foreign and inapplicable to the fubjecl:. Mr. Dundas then proceeded to call the attention of the Houfe to the probable ftate of the Eaft-India Company, fuppofing it poflefled of no exclufive trade to India. " I am afraid, faid he, that many perfons, who indulge themfelves with the fan- E guine ( 30 ) guine hope of great emoluments, arifmg out of an open trade to India, do not advert to the ftate of the Eaft-India Company, independently of its exclufive rights. If the ex- clufive charter fhould expire in 1794, ftill the Company would be a body corporate in perpetuity, and entitled to trada upon its joint ftock. To whom, in this cafe, would the mod important feats of trade in India belong ? to the Com- pany undoubtedly. Under their original and perpetual char- ters, they have legally purchafed or acquired Fort St. George, St. Helena, Bombay and Calcutta, and long before they were poflefTed of territories, or of the Duannee. Thefe .pof- fefions are their patrimonial property, and cannot be taken from them. Fort St. George was made a fettlement by the Old Company in 1620, St. Helena in 1651, Bombay in 1668, Calcutta and Fort William in 1689. Upon the whole, exclufive of the Duannee, they have an unalienable right to valuable landed pofleflions, amounting at leaft, to ;. 2 50,000 per annum. In addition to thefe, the whole fac- tories and commercial eftablifhments, both in India and in the Eaftern Seas, undoubtedly belong to them. Agreeably to the principles he had already detailed, Mr. Dtmdas obferved, that he muft take for granted, that the government and terri- torial revenues are to remain with the Eaft-India Company, and of courfe, that they muft be confidered as poflefled of all the capital, and of the confequent advantages likely to arife from being the remitters of the public revenue, and thefe were equal in amount to the whole tribute which India can afford to pay to this Country. Under thefe circumftances he might furely afk ; whether any individual- would hazard his trade, in an hoftile competition with the Eaft-India Com- pany ? And whether it would not be rafh to difturb the efta- blifhed fyftem of commerce, when there were forcible reafons for continuing it, and fcarcely any argument in favor of a contrary fyftem. This topic he felt to be invidious, and therefore hedeclined enlarging upon it, he would howevertake the ( 3' ) the liberty of fuggefting to thofe who were difpofed to pur- fue an inyeftigation of this fubject, whether the Indian trade of the foreign European nations did not, from its actual ftate, tend to confirm the opinion, that it would be unavailing in the private trader to enter into a rival competition in the trade to India, .againft the Eafl-India Company of Great Britain. ., j. H -, '^ Before the palling of the Commutation Act fome of the private merchants had had an opportunity of drawing pro- fits from a contraband trade in tea to Great Britain, but fmce that event this fource of profit had been nearly exhaufted, and he believed, that thofe, who had recently endeavoured to draw profits from it, had from their lofles, receded from the enterprize. Having thus confidered what theBritiih India trade is as a monopoly (if that term ihall frill be confounded with an ex- clufive privilege) Mr. Dundas took an interefting hiftorical retrofpect of what it had been, when that monopoly had been interrupted. During a confiderable part of the pro- tectorate of Oliver Cromwell, he obferved, that the private traders had not only been allowed to try the experiment of the India trade, but authorized by a commhTion, in 1 654-5, to engage in it. The trade from this period ^1657, there- fore, might be confidered as open and free, feveral circum- ftances had contributed to prejudice the Protector againft monopolies. The moft dHlinguiihed writers on trade in England had inveighed againft them ; and in particular againft the monopoly of the Eait India Company, while the authors on the fame fubject, in Holland, had defended the privileges of their Eaft India Companies ; the difputes too, between the Dutch and Englifh Eaft-India Companies, from 1620 to the treaty which Oliver dictated in 1654, probably pre- E 2 judiced jndiced him againfl Companies of every kind. It appears however, that upon the trade being opened in England, the Dutch took an unneceflary alarm. In Thurloe's State Papers there is an interefling letter from Oliver's Envoy at the Hague, intimating, " that the Merchants at Amfterdam confidered the opening of the navigation and commerce to the Eaft Indies, to be a meafure that would injure the Eaft India Companies of Holland." Though Cromwell opened the trade for four years, the experiment foon con- vinced him, that his own meafure was as rafh, as the jealoufies and apprehenfions of the Dutch were unfounded. In three years he difcovered, that the Company's trade, (for he did not prohibit them from a competition with the private adventurers) was almoft ruined, and that the Dutch had taken the opportunity of feizing on Calicut, on Co- lumbo in the Ifland of Ceylon, on Manarr, and Jeinapat- nam. Cromwell therefore, in this inftance, found it expe- dient to alter his opinion, ( though that perfon, it wilJr be allowed, was not in the habit of giving up his preju- dices) and to reftore the charter in 1657. What is fmgular enough, in this event, is, that the private traders themielves were the firfl to petition the Protector to reftore the Com- pany's Charter ; and what {hews the raihnefs of the meafure r in the ftrongeft degree, is, that when the Company were re- eftablifhed, upon a joint flock, of 739,782, only 50 per cent, of this fum was fubfcribed for, and deemed the capital flock of the Company ; if Charles II. in 1660, renewed the Company's Charter, his wants, as well as thofe of James II. led them to grant licences to individuals, the majority of whom became bankrupts. A fimilar experiment, though to a lefs extent, was tried fome years afterwards. In 1683, on the failure of the pay- ment of a paltry 4uty, a handle was made to cut down the Charter of the old Eaft India Company ; and for a loan of two millions, at 8 per cent, the general Society, or Engli/b Eaft India Company, was eftabliihed by a Charter, the terms of 3 which ( 33 ) which gave to this incorporated body a right either to trade on their feparate (hares in the capital, or to unite together as a joint (lock, the (hares of as many individual Proprietors as chofe to carry on the trade in that manner. Here there- fore a fair opportunity was given to make the experiment of trading as private or individual adventurers, or upon a joint (lock. In a (hort time, this laft method of trading was found to be fo preferable a iyftem, that when the two Companies were united, not more than . 7,000 remained belonging to the leparate Traders of the general Society. The inference. from theie events is, that not only the experience of other nations, but that of our anceftors, prove to us, the danger of the fpeculation of an open Eaft India Trade. . Having thus examined what the trade is with an exclufive privilege, and what it was, when this privilege was inter- rupted, Mr. Dundas entered into an examination of the complaints which had been brought againfl the Eaft India Company. It had been faid, that the Company having a capital provided for them in India, are lefs anxious than they ought to be, in enlarging their export trade, and that thus they did not fufficiently encourage the induftry of the manu- facturers. It 'had been faid,' that they were, not fufficiently attentive in bringing home the proper quantity of the raw materials, required by our manufacturers. It: had been faid> that they have not provided for the remittance of the for- tunes of individuals from India, by means of trade, and that the effect of the inattention of the Company, an thefe re- fpecls, had been to create a clandeftinfc trade injurious to the commerce, the revenues and the navigation of Great Britain. On the firfl of thefe fubjecls, Mr. Dundas obferved, that fmce th.e acquifition of the territorial revenues, and particu- larly fmce the laft peace, the exports from Britain had been greatly '( 34- ) greatly encreafed, and by the meafures which he was tb pro- ipofe, for the confideratioh of the Houfe, he did not doubt but that the export trade would be carried on, as far as the demands in India would bear. ' On the fecond of thefe objections, he ftated, that the im- /ports of raw materials to Britain amounted 10^.700,000 annu- ally, and though this might not be the quantity required, it muft be allowed, that the Company had made meritorious efforts. Means however would be propofed, for enabling the manufacturer to fupply himfelf with raw materials, through the Company's ihips, as well as at their fales. .:." juTLil .:. . n/i 'l* ojJsifJD^ qrfi io v.-^Vi ~rij On the third of thefe objections, he obferved, that the difficulty of fending home private fortunes would be admitted ; but that the error was in the Legiflature, not .in the Com- pany. By an Act of Parliament, the Company were limited, in their acceptance of bills, to .300,000 in any one year, but this error would be done away, by the plan of remitting the debts of the Company from India, and making them payable in Britain. i'j ^.-ii.^tu Y>U^;;:J/, uxtV o rrlfi'i On the laftof thefe fubjects, he obferved, that it was con* necled originally with the error of prohibiting the remittance .of fortunes from India, becaufe thefe had furniilied capitals to clandefline traders, but as he meant to propofe, that the Company (hould be obliged to provide (hipping, at a mo- derate rate of freight, to carry out goods to India, for all thofe who might chufe to enter into the trade, and to bring home raw materials for the manufacturer, he confidered that the fortunes of individuals would find an eafy and a lafe channel of remittance to Britain, and doubted not, but that the experiment of extending the export and import trade, would do away the temptations to engage in the clandeftine trade, and ( 55 > and would, in fact, annihilate it. " In this way, faid Mr. Dundas, I truft that I (hall not have been found inattentive to the mercantile interefts of the Britifh Nation at large, nor to thofe of the Eaft-India Company; I doubt not, but that the' plan which I have adopted, and at lafl arranged with the- Eaft -India Company, will meet with the approbation of the Public. To thofe who have been looking to the fubject, im one point of view only, and, in fancy, imagining tothemfelves the rewards of their {peculations, I cannot expect to give- fatisfaction ; but if M arliament ihall difappoint them in their unreafonable expectations from- {peculation,., it will, at the fame time, in preventing them from diffipating the wealth they pofTefs, have infured to them their fortunes, and been; the guardian of the patrimony of the Nation. My plan is- to engraft an open trade upon the exclufive privilege of the Company ; and to prove by experiment, firft, - how far the complaints, to which I have referred, are well founded ; and next, how far it is practicable to cure the evil, without injury to the Public,. We thus may not only prevent the commercial adventurer of England or Ireland from being borne down by the Company in an hoflile competition, but afford to them, in their enterprizes and fpeculations, its fofter- ing protection." F :swofii sHifnuQnod f:ooi orfj ad oi si 1*^ lludl i-Lvis Mr. Dundas concluded with apologizing to the Houfe for having folong detained them upon a fubjecl:, into which commercial men, or commercial oeconomifts can-only be fup- pofedto enter; "but a Britifh Legiflature, he faid, have to reflect, that our commercial refoutces are immenfe, that what- ever can preferve them, or add to them, is prefer ving and add- ing to the greatnefs of the Empire ; that in vain we Ihall look at the envied fituation in which we are placed in Europe ; in vain we ihall expect permanency of refpect to the Britifh Power and Character, among nations, removed from us nearly half the circumference of the world; that in vain we fhall, at the the expenie of treafure and of blood, have founded and confor lidated an Indian Empire ; in vain, we ihall. be feeking to open the markets of China, for the encouragement of the (kill, the induftry, and the enterprize of the Britjfh Artizan, Mer- chant and Navigator; that in vain we fh^ill have devifed a fyftem of Government, and/judicial, financial and military powers to fupport it, if WQ do, not, with theie efforts * liften to the claims of the Company, who have actively promoted the intereft and greatnefs of their Country ;. if we do not connect with the confidence, which, we propofe, to place in them, encouragements fuited to the claims o the refpeeta- bleand numerous manufacturers, whofe fkillj whofe wealth, and whofe. enterprize have fecondedand rewarded their own, and the efforts of the greateft mercantile AfTociation in the world : An Aflbciation, who have been fupported by, an.d.arQ about reciprocally to fupport their protectors : An AfToeiation, who, from their fpirit of enterprize and liberality of com- mercial principles, are ready to forward every laudable, but regulated enterprize of their fellow fubjects. " I own, that next to theinterefts of my country, the profpe- rity of the Eaft India Company, in the management of whofe bufinefs I have had my lhare, claims my firit public regard; and I Ihall feel it to be the moft honourable moment of my life, if I have fuggefted opinions to the JLegiflature, leading to a fyflem of Indian Affairs, for the general advan- tage of Great Britain. ' ; ^;jU fi:i I IT:'' .-:; --j -.>:b:v^ *' In my prefent ftatementr I have referred only to an ex- planation of the leading principles which govern my opi- nion. It will readily occur to the Houfe, that there are many nints, which in detail, will require minute explanation ; hall, therefore, without formally moving any reiblutions, have them printed ; and, on Monday next, iubmit them to the Committee, who may continue the confideration of them, from day to day, till they {hall come to a decifion upon this great national fubie&." RE SO- RESOLUTIONS prppofed to the HOUSE op COMMONS; BY THE RIGHT HONOURABLE HENRY DUNDAS. APRIL 23, 1793, 354709 I. THAT all the Territorial Acquifitions obtained in the Eaft- Indies, with the Revenues of the fame, (hall remain in the Poffeffion of the Eaft-India Company, during their further Term in the exclufive Trade, without Prejudice to the Claims of the Public or the Com- pany, fubjed: neverthelefs to fuch Superintendence and Controul, and to fuch Appropriations of the Territorial Revenues and Profits of Trade, as are hereinafter fpecified. II. That Commiflioners, to be appointed by His Majefty, (hall form a Board, and be inverted with Authority to fuperintend, direct and con- troul all Acts, Operations and Concerns, which relate to the Civil or Military Government, or Revenues of the Britifh Poffeffions in India, in like Manner as the Commiflioners appointed by virtue of an Adi of the Twenty-fourth Year of His prefent Majefty, intituled, " An Adt " for the better Regulation and Management of the Affairs of the Eaft- " India Company, and of the Britifh PoflefTions in India, and for " eftablifhing a Court of Judicature for the more fpeedy and effectual " Trial of Perfons accufed of Offences committed in the Eaft-Indies," were impowered to do*by the faid Aft, or by any other Act or Acts of Parliament, with fuch further Powers, and under and fubject to fuch other Rules, Regulations, and Reftrictions, touching or concerning the faid Civil Government, and the Appropriation of the faid Revenues, as lhall be now made and provided by the Authority of Parliament. F a HI. 40 ) III. That the??alaries and Allowances, and all Charges and Expences attending the Execution of His Majefty's Commiflion in that Behalf, ihall be paid and defrayed Quarterly by the faid Company, on a Cer- tificate of the Amount thereof under the Hand of the Prefident of the faid Board for the Time being, to the Court of Directors of the faid Company. IV. That it appears to be proper to continue the Government of the Prefidency of. Fort William in Bengal, in a Governor General and Three Counfellors, and to continue the Government of each of the Pre- fidencies of Fort Su George and Bpmbay refpectively, in a Governor and Three Counfellors, with fuch Powers, and under fuch Regulations, as by any Act or Acts of Parliament, the Governor General, Governors and Counfellors of the faid Profidencies reflectively have been, or are invefted with, for the Government thereof. V V. That it appears to be expedient to continue the Power vefted in His- Majefly, to recal any of the Company's Officers and Servants in India, fuch Recal being fignified to the Directors, by an Inftrument it Writ- ing, under His Majefty's Sign Manual, counterfigned by" the Prefi- dent of the Board of Commifiioners for the Affairs of India; and that the Power of the Court of Directors, to remove or recal any of the faid Officers or Servants, be alfo continued. VI. That it appears to be fit and proper to continue to the Eaft-India Company their exclufive Trade, within the Limits now enjoyed by them, for a further Term of Twenty Years, to be computed from the ift of March, 1794, liable to be discontinued at the End of fuch Pe- riod, C 4i ) 'ik)d, if Three Years Notice mall previoufly be given by Parliament; fubject neverthelefs to the Regulations hereinafter fpecified, for pro- moting the Export of Goods, Wares, and Merchandizes, of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture of Great Britain or Ireland, and for encouraging Individuals "to carry on Trade to and from the Ead- Indies. Vll That it appears to be expedient to make it lawful for any of His Majefty's Subje&s,. refident in Great Britain, or in any other of His Majefty's European Dominions, to export from the Port of London, in Ships to be provided by the Eaft-India Company, on the proper Rifk and Account of the Exporters, to any of the Ports or Places ufually vifited by the Ships of the faid Company, on the feveral Coafts of Malabar and Coromandel, or in the Bay of Bengal, in the Eaft-In- dies, or the Ifland of Sumatra, any Goods, Wares, or Merchandizes, of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture of the faid European Do- minions, except Military Stores and Ammuniton, Malts,, Spars, Cord.- age, Anchors, Pitch, Tar, and Copper. VIII. That it appears to be expedient to make it lawful for any of His Majefty's Subjects in the Civil Service of the faid Company in India, or being refident there by Leave or Licence of the faid Com- pany, or under their Protection 'as Merchants, to confign and put on board the Ships of the faid Company, bound to Great Britain, any Goods, Wares, or Merchandize (except luch Piece Goods as are hereinafter mentioned), in order to the fame being imported on the Rifk and Account of the private Owners thereof, at the Port of Lon- don, under the Regulations hereinatter fpecified, fo that the Tonnage to be required for that Purpofe exceeds not the Quantity of Tonnage, which the Company (hail be obliged to provide for the private Trade.. IX. That during the further Term to be granted to the Company, all Perfons, except the Company, and fuch as mall- be licenfed by them ).'> for ( 4* ) for that Purpofe, (hall be reftric"ted from importing into Great Bri- tain any India Callicoes, Dimities, Muflins, or other Piece Goods made or manufactured with Silk or Cotton, or with Silk and Cotton mixed, or with other mixed Materials ; but that if the Company, by them- felves, or others under their Licence, fhall not import a fufficient Quantity of fuch Goods to keep the Market fupplied therewith, at rea- fonable Prices, to anfwer the Confumption of Great Britain (as far as the fame are not prohibited to be worn or ufed therein) and for Ex- portation, it fhall be lawful for the Board of Commifiioners for the Affairs of India to make fuch Regulations and Reflections for admit- ting Individuals to import the fame refpectively, as the Circumftances of the Cafe may appear to them to require. X. That the Company be laid under an Obligation to provide, at rea- fonable Rates of Freight, between the Thirty-firft Day of October in each Year, and the Firft Day of February in the following Year, not lefs than Three thoufand Tons of Shipping, for the Purpofe of carry- ing out to India the private Trade of Individuals, and for bringing back the Returns of the fame, and the private Trade of other Perfons who fhall be lawfully entitled to import the fame into this Kingdom ; and that further Regulations fhall be made for augmenting the faid Quantity of Tonnage, as Circumftances may require. XL That in Time of Peace the Rate of Freight which the Company fhall be entitled to charge for the Carriage of Goods from Great Britain to India, fliall not exceed . 5 per Ton ; and that the Rate of Freight which they fhall be entitled to charge for the Carriage of Goods from India to Great Britain, fhall not exceed .15 per Ton. And that in Times of War or Preparations for War between Great Britain and any European Power, or under any Circumftances incidental to War, or Preparations for War, whereby an Increafe in the Rates of Freight payable by the Company fhall become unavoid- 4- able, ( 43 ) able, then, and in ay of thofe Cafes, the Rates of Freight to be charged and received by the Company for the Carriage of private Trade, fhall and may be encreafed in a due Proportion to the additional Rates of Tonnoge paid by the Company, for the Hire of Ships for their own Trade, and after no higher Rate or Proportion. XII. That Perfons intending to export any Goods to India, fhall fignify the fame in Writing to the Chief Secretary of the Company, before the Jaft Day of Auguft in each Year, for the Ships of the enfuing Seafon, fpecifying therein the Port or Place of Deftination of fuch Goods, and the Quantity of Tonnage required for the fame, and the Period when the Goods will be ready to be laden or put on Board ; and that every Perfon giving fuch Notice fhall, on or before the Fifteenth Day of Sep- tember next enfuing^ depofit in the Treafury of the faid Company the Money chargeable for the Freight, upon the Quantity of "Tonnage required or fpecifiedin fuch Notice,, unlefs the Court of Directors fhall think fit to accept any Security for the Payment thereof; and that every fuch Perfon fhall alfo, before the Thirtieth Day of Ociober next enfuing fuch Notice, deliver to the faid Secretary a Lift of the Sorts of Goods intended to be exported, and the Quantities of each of fuch. Sorts refpeftively ; and that in Default thereof, or Failure in providing the Goods to be fhipped within the Time fpecified in the Notice for that Purpofe, the Depofit er Security taken for the Freight fhall be forfeited to the Company. XIII. That Perfons intending to export any Goods from India to Great Britain, fliall fignify the fame by Notice in Writing to the Chief Secre- tary of the Prefidency (or to fuch Perfon as fhall be fpecialiy authorized to receive the fame by the refpective Governments abroad) within a reafonable and convenient Time, to be limited by the faid refpe&ive. Governments for that Purpofe,. in which Notices mall be fpecified the Sorts and Quantities of Goods intended to be fhipped, the Quantity of Tonnage required, and the Period when the Goods will be ready to be put on Board ; and that every Perfon giving fuch Notice fhall make a Depofit of the whole Amount of the Freight upon the Quantity of Ton- nage 44 nage fpecified in the Notice, or otherwife give fuch reafonable Security for the Payment thereof in Great Britain; and the due Performance of" his Engagements in that Behalf, as the faid refpedtive Governments lhall require ; and if the Perfons giving fuch Notices (hall not provide their Goods to be (hipped within the Time therein fpecified for that Purpofe, their Depofits or Securities (hall be forfeited to the Company. XIV. That if any vacant Tonnage fliall remain not engaged by Individuals, either in Great Britain or India, after the Times limited for giving fuch Notices refpedively, the fame, together with any other vacant Ton- nage occafioned by the Failure or Default of any Perfons in the Deli- very of their Merchandize, within the Period fpecified in their Notices for that Purpofe, (hall and may be occupied by the Goods of the faid Company-, and that if the whole Quantity of Tonnage required for private Trade in any Year, either in Great Britain or India, fliall ex- ceed the whole Quantity of Tonnage which the Company are bound to provide in fuch Year refpecYively, in that Cafe the whole of the Ton- nage provided lhall be diftributed amongft the Parties requiring the lame, in Proportion to the Quantities fpecified in the re'fpective No- tices. XV. That all Perfons refiding in India, in the Civil Service of the faid Company, or by their Leave or Licence, not being reftricted by their Covenants with the Company, or otherwife fpecially prohibited by them or their Governments in India, (hall be permitted to aft as Com- mercial Agents, Managers, or Confignees, on the Behalf of fuch Per- fons as lhall think fit to employ them, as well in the Difpofal of their Export Goods, as in providing fuch other Kinds of Goods as may by Law be imported into Great Britain on their private Account without incurring any Penalty in refpeft thereof. XVL )] XVI. That if, upon any Reprefentation made to the Court of Directors, by or on the Behalf of the private Traders, of the Want of a fufficienc Number of Perfons refident in India, for the Conduct and Manage- ment of the private Trade, duly authorifed and qualified for that Pur- pofe, the faid Court fhall fail to licenfe a farther Number of Free Mer- chants, to the Satisfaction of the faid private Traders, it mail be law- ful for the faid Traders to reprefent the fame to the Board of Commif- fioners for the Affairs of India ; and that the Court of Directors mall be thereupon obliged to licenfe a proper and fufficient Number of Per- fons to refide at their Settlements in India, in the Character of Free Merchants, with the Approbation of the faid Board. XVII. That the Duty of .5 per Cent, payable to the faid Company, by virtue of an Act of the Ninth and Tenth Years of King William the Third, and the 2 per Cent, now collected by them, on the Value of Goods imported from the Eaft-lndies, or other Places within the Limits of their exclufive Trade, mould be difcontinued, and that a Duty not exceeding .3 per Cent, on the true and reatValue or Sale Amount of all Goods imported from the faid Limits in*o Great Britain, in private Trade, be granted in lieu thereof; and that the fame be accepted or retained by the faid Company out of the Proceeds of fuch Goods, as the Contributory Share or Proportion of the private Traders, for the Expences of the faid Company, in refpect of the faid private Trade, ;;-, XVIIL That it will be proper to eftablifli fuch Rules and Regulations, as may enfure as fpeedy Sales (after the Clearance of the Ship) of the Arti- cles of Silk, Cotton, Wool and Skins, Indigo, Dying Woods and Drug?, imported in Private Trade, as mall be found confident with the In- terefts of the Owners ; and for fo limiting the Value of the Lots of thofe Articles, as that no one Lot may exceed a realonablc bum to be fixed 5 and for entitling the Owners, who mall buy in their Confign- G ments ( 46 ) ments of the above-mentioned Articles, to^n early Delivery thereof, without actual Payment of the Purc.hafe Monies, into the Company's Treafury, beyond the Amount of the Cuftoms, Duties, and Charges of Freight ; and to provide that all other Goods imported in Private Trade fliall be depofited in the Company's Warehoufes, and be in like Manner fold on Account of the Owners, at an early Period, and that the Prices thereof, and alfo of fuch of the faid Articles of Raw Ma- terials as fhall not be bought in by the Owners or Importers, (hall be paid into the Company's Treafury for the Ufe of the faid Owners or Importers ; and that the Private Trade, and the Sales thereof, mall be managed, difpoff d, and* conducted, according to the Bye-Laws of the Company, made and provided for the Management of Private and Privileged Trade, except in fuch R'efpects only, as mail be otherwife fpecially ordered and directed. XIX. * That it is fit and proper that all Reftraints laid by Law on the Ser- vants of the Company and other Subjects of His Majelty, and now in Force, whereby they are impeded or restricted in the Recovery of their juft Debts or other Demands, in foreign Parts or in His Majefty's Dominions, in whatever Mode fuch Debts may have been contracted* or fuch Demands incurred, fhould be removed; and that the twenty- ninth Section of an Act of the Twenty-firft Year of His Majefty's Reign, whereby Britifli Subjects in India were prohibited from lending Money to foreign Companies, or foreign European Merchants, and from purchafing Goods or lending Money for that Purpofe on any of their Accounts, or" furnifhing them with any Bills of Exchange therein defcribed, fhould be repealed, and that all Penalties incurred by any Breach thereof, for which no Profecution hath been already commenced, ihould be difcharged. XX. That it is proper to declare that the Powers and Authorities of the Company, and their Governments Abroad, over their Officers and Servants, ( 47 ) Servants, and other Britifh Subjects refiding under their Protection in India, notwithstanding their being authorized and employed to act as Managers or Agents for Private Traders, fhall remain and continue in the Tame Fprce and Effect, as if they had not been fo authorized or employed. XXI. That it is expedient to provide that fuch Britifh Subjects, as are by Law reftridted from refiding in any other Place in India than in One of the principal Settlements belonging to the Company, or within Tea Miles of fuch principal Settlement, be alfo reflected from going to, or vifiting any Place beyond the Diftance of Ten Miles from fuch prin- cipal Settlement, without the fpecial Licence of the Company, or of jthe Governor General or Governor of fuch Settlement or Presidency, for that Purpofe, in Writing firft nad and obtained, on Pain of being difmifTed the Service of the Company, and of forfeiting the Licence of the Company to continue in India. XXII. That the Company fhall be exempted from the Claims of Individuals to Compenfation in refpect to any Embezzlement, Wafie, Lofs, or Damage of their Goods or Merchandize while on Beard of the Com- pany's Ships, or in their Warehoufes at Home or Abroad ; but the Officers and Servants of the Company, and any other Perfons through whofe Means, Default, or Neglect any fuch Lofs or Damage may happen, fhall be anfwerable for the fame at Law to the Owners: And that for the better fecuring to fuch Owners their Remedy in refpect thereof, the Covenants and other Engagements to be entered into in future by the Matters and Commanders, and other Officers and Ser- vants of the faid Company, intruded with the Care and Management of the Ships and Cargoes, fhall be made to extend to the Goods and Merchandize carried in private Trade, 'and Provifion made to enable the Owners to avail themfelves of fuch Covenants and Engagements, in cafe of any Breach thereof. G z XXIIJ. ( 48 ) That all the clear Revenues anting from the Britifh Territories in India (hall, during the further Term to be granted in the exclufive Trade, be applied and difpofed of in the following Manner; (that is to fay) Ln the Firft Place in defraying all the Charges and Expences of raifing and maintaining the Forces, as well European as Native, Mi- litary and Marine, on the Eftablifhments in India, and of maintaining the Forts and Garrifons there, and providing Warlike and Naval Stores: Secondly, In Payment of the Intereft accruing on the Debts owing, or which may be hereafter incurred by the Company in India i Thirdly, In defraying the Civil and Commercial Eftablifhments of the faid Company, at their feveral Settlements : Fourthly, That there mall be ilTued to the refpective Commercial Boards of the faid Company,, at their feveral Prefidencies in India, in fuch Proportions as the Court of Directors, with the Approbation of the Commiffioners for the Affairs of India, fliall from Time to Time direct, a Sum of not lefs than One Crore of Current Rupees in every Year, to be applied in the Provifion of the Company's Inveftment of Goods in India and in Remittances to China, for the Provifion of Inveftment of Goods there: And Fifthly, That as often as any Part of the faid Debts (hall be redeemed or dif- charged in India, or transferred from thence to Great Britain, the Court of Directors, with the Confent of the faid Corhmiflioners, fhall be au- thorized to increafe the Annual Advancement to the faid Commercial Boards, for the Provifion of Inveftments Abroad, in the fame Extent to which the Intereft of the Debts in India (hall be reduced by fuch Extinction and Transfers refpectively, if the Trade from India, and Remittances to China, fhall admit of, or require fuch Annual Increafe; or otherwifc, that the Surplus thus accruing fhall be applied to the Liquidation of the Debts in India, or to fuch other Ufes and Purpofes as the Court of Directors, with the Approbation of the CommifTionecs for the Affairs of India, mail direct, XXIV. That a Proportion of the Debts owing by the Company in India, to the Amount of Fifty Lacs of Rupees, or Five hundred thoufand Pounds per Annum, be remitted Home by Bills, from the feveral Pre- fidencies ( 49 ) fidencies, on the Court of Directors, at equitable Rates of Exchange ; and in cafe the Creditors lhail not fubfcribe to the above Amount an- nually, then that the Governor General in Council of Bengal (hall be authorized to raife Money for that Purpofe, by granting Bills of Ex- change on the Court of Directors, at the like Rates as for other Money paid into the Company's Treafury at Fort William, and apply the Sums fo raifed, or whatever Surplus may remain, after providing for the Company's Investment of Goods, to the Difcharge of fuch Debts, until the Total of the Debts bearing Intereft in India (hall be reduced to a Sum not exceeding Two Crores of Current Rupees, or Two MiU lions of Pounds Sterling. XXV. That, during the Continuance of the exclufive Trade to the faid Company, the Net Proceeds of their Sales of Goods in England, with their Profits arifing by private or privilege Trade, or in any other Manner, after providing for the current Payments of Intereft, and other Outgoings, Charges, and Expences of the faid Company, lhall be applied and difpofed of in the following Manner' (that is to fay) : Firft, in Payment of a Dividend, after the Rate of Ten Pounds per Cenf. per Annum, on the prefent or any future. Amount of the Capital Stock of the faid Company, fuch Payment to commence at Midfummer 1793 ; Secondly, in Payment of Five" hundred thoufand Pounds pir Annum> the fame to be fet apart on the ift Day of March and the ift Day of September, Half-yearly, in equal Portions, and applied in the Difcharge ot Bills of Exchange, to be drawn for the Transfer and Diminution of the Debts of the faid .Company in India, until the fame fhall be reduced to Two Crores of Current Rupees, or Two Millions Sterling : Thirdly, in Payment of a Sum not exceeding Five hundred thoufand Pounds in every Year, into the Receipt of His Majefty's Exchequer, to be applied as Parliament (ball direct; the fame to be fet apart for that Purpofe on the ift Day of July and the ift Day of January in every Year, by equal Portions, and the Firft Half-yearly Payment thereof to be made and accounted due on the ift Day of July 1793; and in .the Event of any Deficiency of the faid Funds in any Year, for fatisfying fuch laft-mentioned Payments into His Majefty's Exchequer, that the fame be made good out of any Surplus which may remain from the faid Net Proceeds in any fubftquent Year, after the Payment ( 5 ) Payment of the Annual Sum of Five hundred thoufand Pounds into His Majefty's Exchequer in each Year refpedively ; and that when the faid Debts in India fhall have been reduced to the Amount afore- faid, and the Bond Debt in Great Britain (hall have been reduced to One million Five hundred thoufand Pounds, the Surplus of the faid Net Proceeds, after fuch Provifions made as aforefaid, and after Pay- ment of a Dividend after the faid Rate of Ten Pounds per Cent, per Annum on the