A DEFENCE O F T H E VIEW OF THE Engliih Conftitution WITH Refpefl: to the Sovereign Authority of the PRINCE, AND The Allegiance of the S U B J E C T. By way of R EPLY to thefeveral Anfwers that have been made to it. mm By WILLIAM Hi G DEN., ).). London, Printed for S. Keble at the Turfa~Heael 3 and R.Gofling at the Miter in Fleetftreet. 1 710. : T \ lM ' i . ; The PREFACE. , TO reduce this Controverfy to Matter of Fad, wasj thought, the Way to bring ic to a fhort and a fair Ifliie. For, that it has been the Common Ufage ot: the Realm, for all Orders and Degrees of Men af- ter Revolutions to lubmit to the Princes that were poflefs'd of the Throne with the Content of the States : ^That the Authority of thefe Kings, to which the Subjects fubmitted, fwore, and paid Allegiance, was owned in the fuccee- ding Reigns of the Kings who were their Rivals : That the Judicial Pro- ceedings, and adjudged Cafes in the Courts of Kings de jure, which do ful- ly acknowledge that /Jutbority, are ex* tant in the Tear Books of thofe Reigns : That the folemn Refolutions, and de* clared Opinions of Judges, and greac Lawyers, both ancient, and modern^ which I have produced for this Autho- rity, were really delivered by thofe Jud* ges and Lawyers : That all the publick A a Sea; 816313 The PREFACE. Statutes,which were made by Kings de fattojhwt ever had the Force of Laws of this Realm, have been always pleaded as Inch in the Courts of fncceeding Kings that were their Rivals, without any Confirmation, or pretended Con- firmation, and have been recited as Juch by Kings de \ure and their Parliaments : That when the 25 Ed. III. was made, as well as in all times before that Sta- tute, by the Common Cuftom and U- fage of the Realm,the Unpoflefs'd, Un- recognised Heir was never (tiled and held to be our Sovereign Lord the King by any : That the Prince in poflef- fion of the Crown and Kingdom was always ftiled and held to be our Sove- reign Lord the King : That in the 1 1 Year of Henry VII. a Statute was made, which declares that to ferve the King for the Time being is the true Duty and Service of Allegiance, and fecures the Subjects in the Difcharge of that Ser- vice ; and that this Law has never been Repealed by any iucceeding King or Qyeen, The PREFACE. Queen, but ftands, at this day in the Statute Booldfl Law of this Realm : Are all Matters of Faft. Now chere is but one way to anfwer Matters of Fact,which is to deny them. And tho' thefe Authors have attempted this in an inftance or two,yet they have done it fo faintly and unfuccefsfully, and the Evidence againrt them is.fo clear and full ; that inftead of roundly- denying thefe Fafts, they have had re- courfe to the Salvos ofjub ratione )uris 9 and the Prefumftive Confent^ &C. with which (tho' they have not the leaft Authoriry for either from our Lawyers ' or Lawbooksj they think to turn oft the force of what has been urged both from the Common Laws and the Statute Book. But this is not anfwering, but evading, 'tis fetting up their private Opinions againft Facft and Law, or laying the Laws afide, and fetcing an Hypothefis in their Place. It is certain, that the Schemes of Go- vernment which have been form'd by A 3 feme The PREFACE, fome Men of leifure, are perfedt Stran- gers toourLaws. Laws are Rules given by the Supreme Authority , obli- ging the Subjeds to regulate their A- ftions by them,in order to the Publick Peace aad Tranquility of the Realm ; without any regard to the Patriarchal,or Popular Scheme, And therefore to fuch as diftate from either of -thefe Schemes, that Maxim of Law is a fuf- ficient Anfwer, Lex non dicit^ neque tu dicere debes. Some, I know, doubt, whether Hu- man Laws are lufficient to juftify our AdHons in foro interno^nd tofatisfy Con- fcience. But they are to confider, that Confcience is to be directed by lome Rule. In Matters of Faith, and Di- vine Inftitutions, Divine Revelation is our Rule ; In Ecclefiaftical Matters, as diftinguifhcd from Divine Inftitu- tions, the Laws of the Church ; In Civil Matters, the Laws of the State, fo long as they enjoin nothing contrary to the Law of God : If they do The PREFACE, do, we have a plain Apoftolical TO obey God rather than Man ; If they do not, we have another Apoftolical Rule, as plain, To obey Magifirates. God has given no particular Laws in Civil Affairs as to the Form of Govern- ment, or the Meafures of Obedience, except it were to the Jewifh Nation, Neither has the Revelation of the Go- fpel made any Alteration in this Matter. We are therein,! fay,commanded in ge- neral To obey Magiftrates, &C. but are left to learn from the Laws of every Country, who the Magiftrate is, and what Obedience is due to him. Our Bleflcd Lord himfelf fubmitted to the Government under which he lived, and made no Change in the Governments of the World, but left them in the fame State in which he found them,His Apoftles,and their Succeffors after them did the fame, whether they propagated the Gofpel within, or without the Li- mits of the Roman Empire. The Ad- vantage which Divine Revelation has A 4 brought The PREFACE. brought to Government, and the Se- cnrity it gives to the Thrones of Prin- ces, is not by altering the Objeft 5 or the Meafures of Civil Obedience, but by Eftablifliing that Obedience, which hu- man Laws exaft for fear of Punifliment, on a higher and a furer Principle, and with a more weighty and awful San- ction, than they can give ; whilft it obliges us to be SvlrjtBjiot only for Wrath, but a if o for Conscience Sake. Could it be proved that a particular Model of Go- vernment and Rule of Succeflion to it, hath been InlVituted by God as a Law to Mankind, I fbould think my felf not only obliged to Submit to it, but obli- ged to Submit to no other ; fince no humane Authority can prefcribe againft a Divine Inftitution : But till that is proved, I fhali think my felf obliged to fubmit to every Ordinance of Men, or, as it may be rendred, to ever} Human m- jjttution, for the Lord's fake, and to make the Laws of my Country, the Rule of my Obedience in Civil Matters, It The PREFACE. It has been objefted that the Aft of the 13 Eliz,. c. i. is expired. If that were true ; it is never the lefs true,that the Legiflature of the Realm hath in that Aft afferted the Limitation of the Defcent and Inheritance of the Grown to be within the Verge of its Power. But it is not true that the Aft 1 3 Eliz,. c. i. is expired : The Penalty of High Treafon indeed was Temporary, that Aft making it High Treaty, only during the Queen s Life, jor any one to ajjirm that the Sixteen and her Two Houfes of Parlia~ ment could not mak? Laws offufficient Force and Validity to bind the Defeent and Inheri- tance of the Crown. But the Aft it felf was fo far from being Temporary, or expiring with the Queen's life, that it exprefly makes it forfeiture of Goods and Chattels, for any one to affirm the Jame af- ter the Queens Death, * After I have proved the Legislative Authority of the King for the time being, with his two Houlcs of Parlia- * See Numlw V, in tfc Jfpendix, ment : The PREFACE. ment : I think, I need fay no more of the Hereditary Defcentof the Crown being hmkable by Aft of Parliament, which is the principal Queftion betwixt me and thefe Authors on this Head.Not whether the Crown is Hereditary ? For that it is io, is agreedon both, Hands: And the aforefaid Ail is fo far from making it Eleftive, that it plainly ack- nowledges the Inheritance of the Crown, vvhilft ic afferts that its Inheritance may be limited by Parliament ; nay the Aft T exprefly makes it equally penal, for any to affirm or maintain that the Common Laws of this Re aim ^ not altered by Parlia- men^ ought not to direft the Eight of the Crown of England^ as to affirm that the }ueen and her two Houfes of Parliament could not limit the Descent and Inheritance thereof. * And therefore the Queftion betwixt thefe Authors and me is, whether the Hereditary H ight and Defcent of the * See tie 'beginning of tie Clavfe of tie 4tt Numb. V. Crown The PREFACE. Crown is indefeazible and unalienable ? as they affirm : Or under the Dire&ion of the Legiflative Power ? as I have not only affirmed, but I think, fully proved. Having referred in p. 7. to Letting- ton the Scotch Secretary's Letter, and to Sir Thomas Craigs Book of the Right ofSuccefliwi for farther Proof that Hen- ry VIILdid not execute the Power given him by Parliament, to nominate a Sue- ccflbr by his laft Will and Teftament, Signed with his own Hand, I have thought fit to Print a Citation from each of them in the Appendix. * What Lethwgton fays,carries the grea- ter Weight, becaufe he appeals for the Truth of ir,not only to Sir William Ce- cily the Minifter of State to whom he writes, but to feveral Noblemen then alive,who could not but know, whether what heaffiims to have been done in o- pen Parliament thirteen Years before, was really done,or not ; for his Letters * Number WIL bear The PRE FACE. bear date Jan. 1 4. 1 565, and that was done in Parliament in the firft Year of Queen Mary, which was in 1555. I need fay nothing of Sir Thomas Craig, who wants no Authority with the Wri- ters on that fide of the Queftion : And therefore let me put the Remarker in mind that how little foever the Cafe of Barbartcus or Barbarius, which he cites from Hottomavy was to his purpofe, he'l find by Craig * that it is miftaken too. If the Remark?? has not miftaken Hottoman 5 Hottoman has miftaken the Cafe in Law. I have been larger in my Reply to the Author of the Remarks on Mr. Hig- den's Eutopian Constitution , as he is pleafed to call it, than to the Author of A Letter from the Natural Born Suhjetty becaule he does not fo fre- quently and fo long wander from the Queftion 3 as the latter, who fometimes Riglt of Sitcce/ion, p. 197. lofes The PREFACE, lofes Sight of it for many Pages toge- ther, however what is faid to one of them,is generally a Reply to both. As to the Bngliflj Confiitutwn fully ftated which came very late tomy Hands, I have only taken fo much nocice of it, as to fhew, it would not have delerved more, had it come fooner. I cannot but think my Anjwerers after they have read my Defence^ muft be convinced they have made very many and great Miftakes in our Englifh Hi- ftory, which yet they have delivered with as great Affurance, and drawn im- portant C onfequences from them. It may poflibly not be lo eafy to convince them of their Miftakes in Law, becaufe the Senfe of Laws will more eafily bend to an Hypothefis,than Matters of Faft, which are inflexible. However a Con- viftion of their Miftakes in Hiftory fhould, methinks, lead them to fufpedl they may be miftaken in the Senfe of our Laws, where their Affurance can- not be greater, than it has been in the former^ .% The PREFACE former, and their Study, I believe, has beenlefs. They ihould fufped: this the rather, when they confider, that they differ from thole,, whole Profeffion it is, and who are in a manner unanimous in thefe Points of Law, whilft themfelves who differ from them, do in feveral of thefe Points differ from one another too. But whether the Writers fhall make thefe Reflections or no, methinks fome of their Readers, who are apt too im- plicitely to take things upon truft, fhould not, if they read on both fides, fail to make them. However I think neither ihould efteem it (as my An- /iperfrj-have donej an ill Office in thofe, who believe them miftaken, to endea- vor to fet them right^and to bring them into an Eftablifhment, which uf they could lay down theirScruples)they them- felves would believe was for the Intereft of their Country ,and for the Intereft and Prefervation of: a Community ,that ought to be yet ftill dearer to us, I mean^that of our excellent Chuurch. The The CONTENTS; Nor in Utopia it feems, but in England moft fignal Notice was taken of it, both in Fatf, and in Law. Firfl, in FaEl$ for Queen Mary * claimed the Crown chiefly by * See her Letter to the Privy Council in Hi^nt Hi- ilory of the Reformation p. 1 57. Virtue US] Virtue of this Ad, and She, or Queen Eli- zabeth could have no other Title to it. Both of them could not have a Title by Birth, and yet Both fucceflively afcended the Throne by this Ad. of Settlement. Both had been declared by Law Illegitimate, in the Twenty Eighth of Henry the VIII. and one of them was not of Legitimate Birth, and therefore could have no other Title to the Throne, but what this Ad gave her. Secondly, In Law, there was as fignal Notice taken of it:, for the very Ad of Recognition of Queen Elizabeth, part of which the Remarker has printed in his Appendix Num. 13. doth, in the other part, which he hath left out, declare, that in and to the Princely Perfon of Queen Eliza- beth, and the Heirs of her Body lawfully to be begotten, the Royal Eft ate, Crown, and Dignity of this Realm, with all Jurifdi- Bions, 6cc. are, and foall be, mo ft fully and rightfully invefted and annexed, a>s right- fully and lawfully to all Intents, Con fin i- tiions, and Pitrpofes, as they were in her Father the late King Henry the VIII. * or her Brother King Edward the VI. or her Here the Remarker Ire iks off. b 3 Sifter Sifter Queen Mary, 'at any time fince ike Aft of Parliament made in the ^th Tear of King Henry the VIII. intituled, an AEl concerning the Eftablifiment of the King's Majeftfs Succejjion in the Imperial Crown of this Realm. And that it may be ena- Eled by the Authority aforefaid, that as well this Declaration, as alfo the Limitation and SucceJJion of the Imperial Crown of this Realm contained in the faid AB, made in the f aid 35th Tear of her mo ft noble Father, flail remain and be the Law of this Realm for ever. Could there be greater 'Notice taken of an Ad of Parliament, than there was of this Aft of Parliament, of which the Re- marker faith, no Notice was taken? But why was the other Part of that A$ of Succ ejfion in the ^^tb of Henry the VIII. which impower\l that King to dif- pofe of the Crown by his laft Will, ineffe- ftital to the Houfe of Suffolk -, and why did the Houfe of Scotland fucceed to the Crown of England ? Not by reafon of any Kullity of that Act of Succeffion, as the Author of Jovian imagines, but becaufe King Henry the VIII. never executed the Power, which that Aft gave him. He did not by his laft Will, ftgned with his ow$ Hand, exclude the Houfe of Scotland, and bring t7] bring the Houfe of Suffolk into the Suc- ceilion. There was indeed a Will drawn for that purpofe, but it was never figned by the King, as the Aft of Parliament expre- fly required., : and fuch an extraordinary Power, as that was, muft have been exe- cuted according to the precife Form of the Statute, that gave that Power -, otherwife it was not valid. There was indeed a Stamp put to this Will by a mean Perfon, named Clerk, which would, not for the Reafon aforefaid, have been a legal Ratification of the Will, according to the Statute, had it been done by the King's Order, much lefs when it was done without his Order, or Knowledge. For tho' by this A& the King might, yet Clerk could not difpofe of the Crown. 'Of all which there are undeniable Proofs in the Scotch Secretary Jjethington* s * Letter to Sir William Cecil the Engliffi Secretary, and in Sir Thomas Craig's Right f of the Succeflion. The former calls this a forged Will, and the latter, a Forgery, and both of them by undoubted Evidence Drove it to be fo. * Appendix to the r vol. of the Hiftory of the Refor- mation N. 30. t P. 545i 344 345- B 4 Thus en Thus the Remarked no Notice, and the Author of Jovian's Nullity of King Henry the VHIths. Ads of Succerfion, and the Houfe of Suffolk's Exclufion, and King James'j Admiffion to the Throne, contra- ry to the Authority of many AEls ofParlia- ment, appear to be, what I faid they were, Miftakes both in Law and Hiftory. How candid a Cenfure then was this of the Remarker, that I concealed what I knew to be true? which yet no Man could know to be true, becaufe it was falfe, and which I knew to be falfe. What a han- dle has he given me, (were I difpofed to lay hold on it) by breaking off in the Re- cognition Ad of Queen Elizabeth, with an &c. * in the midft of a Sentence, which Sentence, (as the Reader might have feen" had he printed it entire) doth take moft remarkable Notice of this Ad, of which the Remarker faith, no Notice was taken. It is not impofiible, but it might be an over- fight ^ and I fhall be glad if it was fa. It is. evident, as I have faid, that either Queen Mary, or Queen Elizabeth, was Il- legitimate, and therefore could have no other but a Parliamentary Title to the Remaikers Appendix Num. XIV. Crown ; Crown.: And yet it is certain, that Queen Mary was brought to the Throne chiefly by the Afiiftance of her Proteftant Subjects, who yet generally did not believe her of Legitimate Birth , and Queen Elizabeth was proclaimed by the Authority of a Popifh Parliament, who as generally believed her Illegitimate. Which {hews that both Pro- teftants and Papifts agreed in maintaining the Aft of Succeflion, that was made in the 35th of King Henry the VIII. and confequently Both, believed the Defcent of the Crown of England was limitable by Ad of Parliament. And as thefe Ads were held to be of force in fucceeding Reigns : So none doub- ted of their Validity in the Reign of King Henry the VIII. when they were made ^ but all fwore to the Succeflion as it was efta- blifhed by Act of Parliament \ even Bifhop Fifier, and Sir Thomas More that had been Lord Chancellor, who chofe to lay down their Lives rather than take the Oath of Supremacy , and abfolutely refufed to fweir to the Preamble of the Ad of Suc- ceflion, which affirmed the Nullity of the King's Marriage with Queen Catherine, the LawfuLnefs of his Divorce, and the Vali- dity of his Marriage with Queen Anne : Yet both thefe Great Men voluntarily offer M to ffe-h to fwear to the Succ$fl]on, as it was efta- biiflied by the 2th of Henry the VIII. which limited the Defcent of the Crown to the King's Iffbe by Queen Ann, which according to their Opinions of the King's Marriage and Divorce they mull believe Illegitimate, and excluded the Lady Mary whom they believed his Legitimate I flue. Bilhop Fijber in a Letter to Secretary Cromwell, gave the reafon of his Condud in this Matter : / mufl befeech you, good Mr. Secretary^ to call to your Remembrance^ that at my la ft Being before you and the other Commiffioners, forsaking of the Oath concerning the Kings mofl noble Succejfion ^ I was content to be fworn unto that Part concerning the Succeffion. And there I did rehearfe this Reafon which ] faid mo- ved me. I doubted not but that the Prince of any Realm, with the Affent of hi- Cobles and Commons^ might appoint for his Suc- cejjion Royal fitch ah Order a-s was feen unto his Wifdom mofl according. And for this reafon I faid I was content to be fivorn , unto that Part of the Oath a-s concerning the Succeffion. This is a very Truth of God help my Soul-^ albeit I re fit fed to fwear to fom? other Parcels, becanfe that my Con- fcience would notfervemefo to do. As 1" ] As Sir Thomaf More made thfc fame Of- fer with Bifliop Fifber, fo we cannot doubt but he made it on the fame Principle ^ or if any one doth doubt this, his doubt will foon be fatisfied, when he reads the Con- ference betwixt Sir Tboma* More and Rich the King's Solicitor, as it is related by my Lord Herbert. * I need not defcend to the Laws made in Queen Elizabeth** Reign, which declare the Defcent of the Crown to be under the direction of the Legiflative Power, or go to prove from Reafon that the Su- preme Power can limit the Defcent of the Crown , tho' this one Reafon I think is fufficient, becaufe it cannot limit it felf. Indeed nothing can limit the Supreme, but a fuperior Power, nothing but a Law of God : and let any one produce a Di- vine Law for Hereditary Succefllon in Kingdoms, and I'll grant it unalterable by any Humane Power, but fince no fuch Divine Law can be produced, we muft own the Defcent of the Crown to be under the Diredion of the Legiflative Power. This is more than was neceilary for my own Vindication, againft the Remarked Hiftory of King Hemy the VIII. p. 183. Cenfure ^ C "3 Cenfure^ but I have at the fame time vin- dicated alfo that part of our Oath to main- tain the Succeflion, as it Hands limited to the next Proteftant Heirs of the Houfe of Hannover. CHAP. I. The Title of my firft Chapter wnsthis. The Supreme Authority of the Englijb Govern- ment refls in the King for the Time being t and the Allegiance of the SubjeB ts due to him by the Common Law of this Realm. AS in the View of the Englifo Confti- tut'ton, I laid down certain Propo- fitions, which I made the Titles of fo many Chapters, fo I wifh thefe Gentlemen had anfwer'd me in the fame Method, that the Reader might have feen what were the Points in Debate betwixt us, and thereby have more eafily judged, how far my Argu- ments, or their Anfwers,amounted to a Proof or a Difproof thereof. However, I (hall keep to my own Method, and begin with the Defence of the fir ft Chapter: Wherein I proved the common Ciiflom and Ufiige of the Realm was fo evidently on the lide of the Regnant King, that the People of England always fubmitted, and took Oaths ' of - r. 13 1 of Fidelity to the Thirteen Kings, who irom the Concmeft to- Henry theVlI. came to the Throne without Hereditary Titles, as well as to the Six Hereditary Kings, who reign'd in that Period.. The 'Remark er in Anfwer to this is very unfortunate in histirft Argument, where he fays, that Allegiance is not due to a King de facto by Common Law j for ivbat Common Law had the frft King de faElo to plead? Could he plead Citftom before there was anyfnch thing ., and for many Ages has been due to the King for the 'time being. * The fird Non-hereditary King could not chal- lenge Allegiance by common Ufage -, no more could the firft King in the Heredita- ry Line, no nor by Inheritance neither, and yet the Remarker will not fay Alle- giance is not due to Hereditary Kings by common Law or Uftge., Indeed, accor- ding to this way of arguing, Common Law or Ufage could never be pleaded for any Remarks p. 5. thing, C '4] thing, beeaufe it could not be pleaded fof the firft thing of that kind :, and the lon^ geft Series of Precedents could (ignify no- thing^ becaufe the firft Precedent had no Precedent. Thus his Argument by pro- ving too much proves nothing, and would however have been ill employed againft me in this Place, where I had exprefly aflerted (as the Remarker himfelf takes notice) that common Cuftotn and Ufage doth not obtain the Force of a Law till after a long TMC! of time. The Remarker goes on. We will gram all this (i. e* the common Cuftom and Ufage of taking Oaths of Fidelity to all thefe 13 'N&n-befsdita.ry Kings ,) and yet the People of England might take Oaths of Fidelity to them, of coming to the Throne with an Hereditary Title for all that : For moft if not all thofe c\c. claimed as Heirs or Con- quer or s, or both :, as William the Conque- ror -, a-nd . always declared they held the Crown by Title of Blood^ and as fitch their Parliaments recognized them, and the Peo- ple fwore to them. In ftort^ they ivere Kings W*4 Ufarfers, but Allegiance was paid tbeni.\ as pretended Heirs of the Crown. f- They claimed and reigned fub ration e | Remarks p< 4- juris C is 3 juris, -and there for e^Oaths were Them as Kings de jure, and not de fado. * William the Conqueror and all his Sztc- ceffors reigned by an Hereditary Title, w a pretext to it. William the Conqueror de- clared hiinfilf \King by Hereditary Title as well as Conqueft. William Rufus clai- med as Tefamentary Heir to his Father, &c. p. 24. f The Remarktr has here jumbled to- gether three things, that are of a diftinci Nature, and require a diftinft Confidera- tion, viz. The Clai-,t> of thefe Princes, the Recognitions of Parliament, and the Submiffion of the People. i ft, As to the Claims of thefe Princes, he faith, that they all claimed fub ratione ju- ris ', that they all claimed and reigned by an Hereditary Title, or a pretext to it. That they all claimed/?//? ratione juris, under the Notion of fome Right or other I readily grant : But that they all. claimed by an He- * Ibid. p. 1 4. J Ibid p. zi. [ The Natural Born Subject falls in with the fame fy. pothrfu o. 58. & fay< there wid be Iff' but three, that is Henry I, Kfng Stephen, and King John ; upon whom it can be lteaged that they caws to the Crown, without Pretence of an Hereditary Rrght, and in the %yb and 40 Page he Attempt} tt prove that thefe three alft came to,, the Throne vith the fame Pre- juris feditary Right, or a Pretence to it, I deny* I further grant, that moil of them claimed by Hereditary Right or a Pretext to it , but then the Remarker knows,or ought to know, that feveral of thefe who claimed by Hereditary Right , did not mean what he does through- out his Book, when he fpeaks of Hereditary Right, as the only Right to the Crown, viz. a Right as next Heir by Proximity of Blood. To in (lance in William I. with whom the Remarker begins, and who, as he fays, declared be held the Crown by Heredi- tary Right as redl as Conqueft, for which he refers us to a Charter of that King men- tioned by Dr- Hicks. * Was William the Conqueror, or doth the Remarker believe that he was, or that he by thefe Words meant that he was, next Heir by Blood, to any of his Predeceflbrsin the Englifh Throne either Saxons or Danes -, Who, as all the World knew, was not Heir to any one of them by Proximity of Blood, and as a Baftard _was Heir to no body > What then doth that King mean by his Hereditary Right to the Crown ? If we will give him leave to explain himfelf, he tells us in another Charter, That he was conjiitu- * Literat t Srfftntrim, Differ!. fy//?f/, f. 72. ted ['73 ted ty King ^Edward the Gonfeffor tive Heir of his Kihgd&m^ which agrees with the account that Qrdericus- Vitalis f gives of this Matter:, fa that there was not fo much as a Pretence to what is commonly meant by Hereditary Right, but only to a Donation of the Crown' from 'Fdwar-d the ConfefTor a King; dc fa 80, which was a Claim againft the Hereditary Right of Edgar Ath-e- ling. ' William Rtifits, faith the Rewarker, was Heir to his Father by Will and can he fay this was a Glum by Hereditary Rigttt, or any Pretext to it, which was no other than a Claim by Will, againft the Hereditary Right of his eldeft Brother Robert .fW.ifr Domin.tm expetfare, qua wioras ndnm in jtiugl'ani ncffibat (in Narmttrinui quippc fiftde* tat ) provifutn eft fact fxtn So L!-. =- ; !L this ftir which he has made about Clulming Jub rations juris, has only rai.cciDuit about theCiueitions which are be- twixc us on this Head:, whether thefe Thirteen were reailv" .Non-hereditary Kings, or not ? and whether, notwithftandmg,this the Po- G 3 Pie [ 22 ] p!e cf England fubmitted to them or no ? That the Pecple fubmitted to thefe Kings, he owns, where he fo often aflerts, that they fubmitted to them, becaufe they claimed fub ratione Juris $ tho' that they fubmitted for this Reafon,hehas no where proved. And own he tnuft alfo, on his own Principles, that they were Non-hereditary Kings: For will the Remarker fay, a Teftamentary Heir is the right Heir > That William the Conqueror was King by Hereditary Right, hecaufe he declared, he was fo, in another fenfe than the Remarker under- ftands it ? That Henry I. was next in Blood, becaufe chofen as next by a Faftion ? That Stephen was Heir to Henry I. becaufe one falfly fwore, he made him Heir by a Nun- cupative. Will ? If he will not fay this, then thefe will ftill be de fafto Kings, and the after tian of the View will ftill hold good, that, by the common Ufage of the Realm, Allegiance is due to Kings de fa&o. * q. e. d. * 1 need not go on to prove, that, upon the RernarkerV Princi- ples, the reft ofihifs Thirteen were Nox- hereditary Kingt^-tce he in ef~ feftfwn' it of :bcm all by $*me>txseft J/Henry II und Henry flf. But dot a htvot know, tkt Henry II caviete tkg Throne without n Hereditary Title, hii Mother, Ma^d the Empre ft, being alive ; ud thai Hrn^y 111. did the fame, h.s elder Brother't Daughttr i being alive ? bcjh which I (ball prove in another Place. The C 33.1 TheQueftion, as I ever underftood it, was Whatthefe Princes really were : Not, What they pretended to be. What Claims they truly had, or at lead the People believed they had : Not, what Claims they made, or what Pretences were made for them ? But fince the Remarker has thought fit to change the ftate of the Queftion, Til joyn Iffiie with him upon it, as he has ftated it. Let us fuppofe then for once, that they all claimed fub rations Jitrit. Was this alone a fufficient Reafon for the Subjects to fwear Allegiance to them ? Yes-, he pofitively af- firms it. Thefe are his Words, fo that 'tis plain , that all thofe Kings de fodo claimed as de jure, which w, if there were no other, a good Reafon for the Subjects not refnfmg to fwear Allegiance to them. p. 23. If the Remarker will abide by his Aifertion, there's an end of the Controverfy, and no Sub- ject now ought to refute to fwear Allegiance to the Queen, who claims as tie jure : And there is a better Reafon ftill to take Oaths to Her Majefty, becaufe (he doth riot only Claim dejure,but is de. Jure too. Tho* bare- ly to Claim asfuch, is with the Remarker, and all the fub rations Juris Men, a fuffi- cient Reafon to take Oaths of Alle- giance now, and which they cannot refufe without renouncing this Principle. I do G not . c 24 3 .not fee,., boat the/r. Caufe is.LQ$ ; . ekjier way. p their Hypothecs, they'll flick tx> " fitb. .ra-.ione Juris, they are .q of :i obiig'd to take the Oaths ,i if to ^vaidthe confequence, they'll let go this Principle which is the main Sal- vo of their Hy.potheQs, their Hypothecs will fall with it, and they will, it is to be honed, come into the Doctrine of the View, : that.it is the Culium and Ufage, which is the Coaimon Law of.theHealm, to fubrait, and t , ike Oaths of Fidelity to the Regnant Prince, STrli ot H ** *-*tr 1 fMl - r\v* i*ri *-T^ii^vi i f- 9T\ fr-T^f/ari i f-*n rr ^ - y in which the Pope with his PofiiJJj Clergy I .:d a ve.ry 'great ftroke in pulling down ami fating up. Kings, and bad, or at leafy ' . pr;eiefldejd t& have, a Power of Ab- fofojng Subje'cls'fmu their Oaths of Alle- giance-: and no wonder, if Subje3s mis- led by the Pope . and bis Clergy , paid their Allegiance where they 'direfted them, p. 14. * * Th: Natural Born Sobjtft hat tke fame Anfwer. Another Confideration , faith he t in iFa/onr ofvoOf Aflceftors in thofe Times, m for the Bulls of Popes, they have been as little regarded. Their Bulls to exempt Religion sPerfons from Obedience, by the ^d. Hen. IV. c. 3, and .their Bulls to difcharge the Ci fter dans or other Pejrfons,. from the payment of Tythes by the ^d. Hen. IV. c. 8. the jtb. Hen. IV. c. 6. were declared void-, And thofe that purchafed, or put in Execution the (aid Bulls, incurred a Pr poralties. When Pope Boniface VIII. fent a Moni- tory Bull to King <:/#. L to defift from his War againft Scotland, pretending the Sovereignty of that Kingdom was held of the Apoftolick See - 5 The Lords, afTembled in Parliament, declare in a Letter to the Pope, That their Sovereign Lord the King is, by no means obliged to acknowledge the Papers Jurifdiflion^ or fubmit to his Sen- tence with refpett to the Sovereignty of Scotland, cr indeed in any other temporal Matter whatsoever, f And in one of the Statutes of Premunire, for bringing, or pur- fuing any Papal Inftruments of Procefs, or Sentences of Excommunication for Exe- cuting the King's Commands, &c. It is declared, that the Crown 0/England, which hath been fo free at all times^ that it loath been in no Earthly SubjeElion^ but immedi- ately fubjeft to God in all Things, touching prjjudicialibus, palam & expreffe renunciavit Anno Reg- ni Rich, fecundi zi. Fcedera Conventiones, &c. Fol. 8. p. zo. f Quod prarfatus Dominus nofter Rex fuper juribus Regni iui Scoti >-, aut aliis iuis Temporal ibus nullatenus judicialiter relpondeat coram vobis, nee judiciuin lubeat quoquo modo, &c Foedera, Conventiones &c.Tom. i. p. oT$*fignedl>y aeout tin Hundred Erls t & b*int. tht C 31 ] the Regality of the fame Crown ^ and to n other , ought not to be fubmitted to the Pope, And the Lords Spiritual as well as the Lords Temporal, and the Commons en- gage, that they will and ought to be with the King in thofe Cafes, in lawfully main- taining of his Crown, and in all other Cafes touching his Crown and his Regality, as they be bound by their Ligeance. i6th. Rich. II. ch. I could, were it neceffary, produce from our Hiftories, and Laws, a great many more Inftances of the fame kind. But thefe are fufficient to convince the Remarker, that our Popifh Anceftors had not that Deference he imagines they had, to the Authority of the Popes>in all their Encroach- ments : That they had no Deference at all to their Authority in Temporal Matters : And that it was not upon Papal Abfolutions, as he fuppofes, that they took Oaths of Allegiance to Kings de fatfo. Laftly, The Government was generally fettled, and the People had fubmitted, be- fore there was any time for the Pope's In- tervention. What time had the Pope tointerpofe,when W. Rufus was kill'd the fecond of Auguft in Newf ore/I, buried the third at Winchefter, where where ^H^wjl.was chofen the fourth day, and Crowned the fifth f at London^ and the whole Nation itn mediately fubmitted to him ? What Room was there here for the Pope's Interpofition, or Difpenfation . No,but he offered oppo- fition to Duke William.He may as well reckon Harold's Army for Non-jurors, who oppofed Duke William when he Invaded England-^ and yet as well as others that oppofed him, fub- mitted to him, after he was King of England. So that I may ftill fay, we do not yet hear of one Refufer amongft all hisSubjefts.But what can be more exprefs, than Hovederfs Tefti- * View f. 2. t Remarks f . I $. * Remarks f.m. mony, C 35 J inony, which I produced at the fame time, * Tte &^ rr^v/f Men and Tenants by Kniihfs o and confequently, that the Notions of Government in the Ages where- in they wrote,were very different from the Re- marker's : f That Subjects then believed Alle- legiance, and Oaths of Allegiance, were due to the Regnant Prince, and that it was a very heinous Crime to revolt from him, and their Oaths, tho' it were in favour of a lineal Heir. It may be obferved, that thefe Hifto- rians (except the Compiler of that part of the Annals of Waverley) did not write under William fef/wj, but the Two firft of them in the Reign of Henry II. and the Hid. in that of Henry III. The Remarker doth not deny, that Robert Earl of Glocefter took an Oath to King Stephen, and doth not pretend to find any more Non-jurors, till he conies to Hen.lVtb's. Reign. As for Thomas Merk, Bifhop off Carlifle, who as I faid, accepted, and pleaded K.Hen. \Vths. Pardon, which is extant in Rymer's f Fa- dera, I urged it to the QbjeBor as an Argu- t Epifcopi Karlioleniis de omnimodis Proditionibus Pardonatio. &c. Fcedera ConventionesT. VIII. p. 165. D 4 ment [40 ] rnent ad Hominem, who faid, he could nek believe fo great a Man had made fuch an acknowledgment of Henry the IFtb^sAuthon- r^.But certainly his obeying that King's Sum- mons to Parliament, and doing all that was required of the Lords, at that time,in order to their Admiffion, and Sefiion in Parlia- ment :, and his fitting in that Parliament, where fo many Ads of Richard II. and the whole Parliament of the a I ft of his Reign was repealed, was much more : And whether he could be a Member of H. IVth's Par- liament, and not a Subject of his Govern- ment, I leave to the ObjeEior, and the Reader to determine. The Remarker goes on. The fame may be faid for Richard Scroop Archbijbof) tf/'York, (here the Remarker cites his Declaration again ft K. H. IV. and faith upon it) would the Archbijbop have thits lain before the Peo- ple the heinoufnefs of Perjury ,and violation of Oaths, if he hadfworn to K. Henry . 40, 41. [ 43 ] fign of reftoring K. RickarJ, who was murther'd five Years before this Defign > For Richard's Death was in the firft Year of K. H. IV. and the Archbiftiop's Conspiracy was not till thefixth Year of that Kinp;. But let us now come to the ArMifiop*$ Party, who, as the Remarker faith, were doubtlefs mofl of them 'Non-jurors too-^ and they were indeed much fuch Non-jurors, as the Archbifhop himfelf. The Earl of Northumberland-^ his Son, the Lord Piercy , commonly called Henry Hotfpur , his Bro- ther the Earl of Worcefler , the Bifhop of Bangor ^ and the Lord Bardolpb were, with the Archbifhop,the Heads of the Party. The Earl of Northumberland, and his Son Henry Hotfpur joyn'd H. IV. when he * was Duke of Lancafter, immediately upon his land- ing ztRavenfpur in Torkftire^ and march'd with him againft K. Ricoafd -, went with Archbifhop Scroop to that King, to put him in mind of his Promife to refign: Had f the Ifle of Man given to him, and his Heirs, by K. Henry IV. to hold by the Service of carrying the Lancafter Sword at the Coronation of the King, and his Heirs $ * Collier Ecclef. Hift. <5or. t Rjmeri Foedera Tom. p. 89, 90, 91. Ibid. 116. and [44 ] and was made Conftable of England for his great Services : || And at the great Council aforefaid, engaged to aflift the King with ninety Men, and Twenty Archers. As for his Brother, the Earl of Worcefter :, it appears by a Paflage in the fame great Council, that he was K. H. IVth's Ainbaflador to the King of France : And by the Subfcriptions, in the Council fo often mention'd, we find, that the Bifhop of Bangor granted the King a Tenth, and the Lord Eardolfh engaged to ferve the King in Perfon, without Pay, in, his War againft France. He adds, 'tis to be hoped, Mr. H. will not deny thofe Four to be Nonjurors, * who 9 as mentioned by Stow, p. 32. oppofed Henry the IVths. being made King^ which they might very well do, and yet fubrait to him after he was fo. Their Oppofition to him before he was made King, is no manner of proof of their Non-fubmiflion afterwards. Was not, f faith the Remarker, Owen Glendour, the famous Welfi Captain, who maintain da War agoing H. IV. in behalf of his lawful King, a Non-juror . Doth he mean then, Edward Mortimer Earl of March ? He took the Field for Henry IV. againft Owen Glsndour^ who made him Prifoner, as the fame Hiftorian obferves. And, as both Sir John f Hay-ward* and Stow || tell us, put him in Irons ^ and cajl him into a deep and vile Dungeon. Owen Glendoitr's War, which the Re- marker feems to juftify, began with a Riot, and ended in Rebellion, which is the Name Mr. Collier gives it. And Stow, and Sir John Hay ward give us botli the occafiory- and defign of his Rebellion : The former takes notice, that * he had a Controverfy with Reginald Lord Grey of Ruthine, and becaufe he was not favoured in bis Caufe, he began frjl tofyoilthat Lord's Lands, <3cc. * Collier Ecclef. 614. Ib. 678. t Lift of K. H. IV. i 4? . )| Stowf. 327. * Stow p. 3Z5. And [4*1 And the latter * gives him the Charader of an ill Man, and faith, he and thofe Welfj that ]oynd him , defigrfd to recover their Freedom and throw off the Englift Government. And fo much for the Re- marker *s famous Welft Captain. As for Frisby the Monk's Anfwer, it is not fufiicient to prove he had never fub- mitted, no more than Archbimop Scroop's Declaration proves he was a Non-juror. Befides, this was in irfe ^d. Year of H. IVth's. Reign, two Years after the Death of Rich. II. when there was no Claim fet up a^ainft H. IV. Well ! But if they were not ~Non-jurors, he will have them to be Penitents, as repenting of their raft and unadvifed Oaths, and re- turning to their Allegiance -, as a Teft of their Repentance, f I anfwer ift. The Remarker himfelf will not efteem thofe Penitents, that aded upon fuch Motives, as the Earl of Northumberland, and his Son Lord Piercy, and his Brother, the Earl viWorcejler did, who, as Holingfiead relates, in the Be~ ginning of his Reign, were faithful Friends, and earneji Aiders of K. H. (and I have Life o\ Henry IV. p. 140. Remarks p. 1$. proved^ C47] proved, they were fo from Authentiek Me- moirs,) but began now to envy bis Wealth and Felicity - 5 and especially they were grieved^ because the King demanded ofthe Earl andbis Son,fuch Scotch Prifoners^ as were taken at Homeldon and Weftmoreland , which they claimed as their Prize -, * (being the Kings Generals in thofe Actions.) 1 I will not fay, that all revolted upon the fame Motives j but whatever were their Motives, that their Revolt was unjuflifiable, I dare appeal to Mr. Colliery nav, to the Rewarker him- felf. Mr. Collier, after he had taken notice of the Earl of March's unfortunate Expedi- tion again ft Glendour, in Defence ofK. H. IV. adds, and tho* this Earl upon a Difgufl for not being ranfomed, engaged afterwards with that Weljb Gentleman^ againfl the King : Yet it does not appear, that hefet up any Claim to the Crown. And in the next Reign, when Richard Earl ^/Cambridge, who married the Daughter (it f fhould be Sifter) of this Earl of March, form d a Defign to difpoj/efs King Henry, and fet Holing(head]>. $21. Annne Wife to Richard E*rl /Cambti(?ge, . the Siftr, Mortimcf Tbrl j MarcS, we [48: the Crown upon Jots Father in Law's * Head. The Earl 0/'March wasfo far from ajfferting his Right, and abetting the Enterprise, that he immediately went to King Henry V. and made a Difeovery. Now the Branches of March and York, letting their Claim fleep all this while ^ the SubjeBs had no reafon to begin a War, or quarrel the Go- vernment in the Honfe 0/Lancafter. f What then becomes of Bifliop Merk, of Archbifhop Scroop, with the Earl of Northumberland, and the reft of that Party, of Frijfy, and all the Revohers of this Reign? It is certainly no final 1 Crime for Subjects to begin a War with their Prince, and throw a Nation into Blood and Confufion, when they had no reafon for it, and this was what they did, and what they had no reafon to do, as Mr. Collier has ftated the Cafe of this, and the next Reign, and he might have added of H. Vlth's. Reign too. But all thefe Re- vohers the Remarks has produced, are con- demned by his own Principle too, vix. That * Itjbmld be, Brother in Lav's Head. Ecclef. Hift. p. 678. We hwealjo this account of the *r/ of March V difuvery of tkit Confyiracy to King Henry V. in Stow, p. 346. But I often fhuje to cite Mr. ColherV Efde/taftieal Mflory, when I could cite other Hiftorianty becauft the Rcmarker will not fufpett, that Mr. C hat tgl&td thttftdt of tfa guejlitn t whishbe mtintain,. Kings [49] Kings de fado claiming as de jure, ("as he fays, all our Kings de fadlo did) /j, if there were no other ^ a good Reafon for the Sub- jecls not refufing tofwear Allegiance to them. And will he fay, thofe Subjeds had good rea- fon to repent of Oaths of Allegiance, which they had good reafon to take, and there- fore good reafon to keep ? Or that they are true Penitents by revolting from fuch Oaths, and the Princes to whom they took them ? Let him mew how they can be at the fame timeinexcufableRevolters, and true Pe- nitents. And could he have produced Non-ju- rors,he had produced them only to condemn them, for refufing to take Oaths of Alle- giance, which in another place, he fays, they had good reafon not to refufe. The Remarker however, is fo well pleas'd with his Argument on this Head, that at the end of his Book, he refumes it, and goes over again with thefe Non-jurors, in a Lift of Queries. He fays in his Preface, / have at we end of the Remarks added fome Queries, which may be ofUfe, and give light to fome Pajjages in the Book , but I am aware jt will be faid by fome captious Reader s y that I forget my f elf ^ bee ait Je I prcpofe fome things by way of Queries, that were urg'd m the Remarks as Arguments to prove^ that there were anciently fuch People, as we now E call fall Non-jurors, 6tc. but I can affure them, there is no fitch matter. I did not forget my felf\ byt did it defignedly^ and for re a- fons be/I knor&n to my felf 9 which I am refolv'd^ I 'will not give,. Trie Remarker faith,he will not give us his Reafons for adding thefe .Queries, after he had told us a little before, that he added them, that they may give light tofome Pajfages in the Book. Thefe Paf- fages do not want light, we underftand them well enough, but ftrength , and that the Queries do not afford 'em. But what- foever the Remarked Reafons were for pro- ppfing thefe Queries, which he is refolved not to tell us, if the Testimonies I have given him, are not taken from Utopian, but Englifli Hiftory, he had very good reafon to have fparedboth his Remarks^ and his Que- ries about Noti-jurors of firmer Reigns. How- ever, tho' he has, I ihall not repeat the fame things, for the Reply J have made to his Re- marks, will be an Anfwer to all that is pertinent in his Queries. I faid that the Partizans of the Houfe of York * took Oaths of Allegiance to the three Henries^ that the Heir of that Fatnily, Richard Duke of York, had feveral times Jworn fworn Allegiance to King H. the VI. parti- cularly , in the iytb Tear of his Reign^ and this I added, because no Body T fuppofcd, would fufpeft that any would fcruple to take Oaths to King Henry. VI. upon the fcore of a Perfon, who had himfelf fworn Allegiance to him. The Remarker doth not pretend to produce any one that refufed the Oaths in this Reign nor does he deny, that the Duke of Tork himfelf did fwear Allegiance to King Henry VI. He only dif- putes the confeqiience, that I drew from his long Sub million, and repeated Oaths of Fidelity, and faith, he did not by fwearing give up his Right,which fhall be confider'd in its proper place, the Queftion here, being only this, Whether he, and all the Partizans of that Houfe, had lived in Subjection, and taken Oaths of Fidelity to King H. VI. which the Remarker grants. So that I have, I think, fufficiently made good what I af- ferted in the View, that it has been the cuftom and itfage of the Sub] e Els of this Realm to fubmitj and take Oaths to Non-He- reditary ^ as well as to Hereditary Kings ^ and the Remarked* fruitlefs Enquiries after Non-jurors in thefe Reigns, have orly ferved for a further confirmation of this Aflertion. Having proved this univerfd Subraiflion , I added, that if the Subjects had thereby E 2 acknow- [53] acknowledged an Authority which the Laws condemned, we fhould then have found this Authority difowned in the fucceeding Reigns of Kings de jure. But inflead of this, we find Kings de jure In their Courts of Judicature, and their Afts of Parliament acknowledging this Authority, to which tlie Subjects before had fworn, and paid their Allegiance -, for the truth of which, I appealed to the common Law, and ftatute Law of the Realm j to the Tear Books for the one , and the Statute Book for the other : Which reduced this Controverfy to matter of Fad. From the Common Law, I produced fe- veral Cafes, ( I could have produced many more) out of the Tear Books of the Reigns of Kings de jure, wherein their Judges de- clared, that all Pleas, Adions,d^. that were de- pending in the Courts of their immediate Pre- deceflbrs, Kings defaElo, were difcontinued by their Deaths -, in the fame manner,as the Judges of Kings dejure, declared the Actions, &c. de- pending in the Courts of their immediate Pre- deceftbrs, Kings de jure, were difcontinued by their Deaths , and confequently hereby acknowledged, the Laws were as legally adminiftred by the Authority of Kings de fafto, as they were by Kings de jure. The f marker's Anfwer to this is, that tbefe L.tws C 53 ] Laws bad their Authority from tie frefumed Confent of the King de jure. p. 32, 35. Claiming fub rat'wne Juris , and the pre- fumptive Confent of the King de jz/r it [ 58] it therefore follow, that the Subjeft is Re Hits jn Cttria, and pardon 'd in Law ? It cer- tainly doth not :, for tho* the Prince will not fuffer him to be executed :, and tho' the Par- don which was granted before he was in PofTefilon was void} yet this Disjunctive admits a medium, which is, that he may, and probably would, grant a new Pardon now he is in PofTeiTion, to fecure him. I obferv'd, that as the oppofite Council did not deny any one of thofe Points to he Law, which were maintain'd in the Plea for Bagot : So Billing, who was Lord Chief Juftice of the King's Bench , deliver'd his Opinion agreeably to it, and after he with the reft of the Judges of that Bench had confulted with the Judges of the Common Pleas, who agreed with them, the Court gave judgment for the validity of Bigot's Patent, i. e. for the Royal Jurifdiclion of the King defafto. There are, as I faid, a mul- titude of Cafes where the fame Authority is acknowledged. It was never difputed but in Bagot's Cafe, and there, as we fee, judg- ment given for it. None of thefe things are denyed by the Rewarker, and he is fenfible they are againft him, and therefore calls them Pretended Authorities out of my Tear * Boaks. Why Pretended Authorities, are "~~* Remarks f. jz. they [ 59 ] they not in the Year Books of the Reigns of Kings de juret But thefe too it feems, are Pretended Authorities when they do not fuit with the Remarkeis Hypothefis. * He fays, he owns and knows no one that denies, that the Crown takes away nil manner of DefeEls and Stops in Bloo.d, to be a Maxim of the Law:, but then he would reftrain it to Hereditary Kings without any Authority, nay, againft the Authority of all the Judges of England, who, as I ob- ferved in two famous Cafes, have applyed this Maxim to Non-Hereditary King?, to which having nothing to anfwer, he takes fancluary f in his Maxim fub rations juris. CHAP. II. Being a Defence of the fecond Chapter of the View. That the Sovereign Authority, particularly, the Legiflative Authority of Kings for the Time being, and their Two Houfes of Parliament, is acknowledged by the Statute Law of this Realm. H Aving towards the End of the firft Chapter of the View, proved by the * Remarks f. 37^ \ Remarks f. 38, Common Common Law of this Realm.That theLegifla- tive Power is lodged in the King's for thetime being, and their Two Houfes of Parliament. In the fecond Chapter, I proceeded to prove the fame, by the Statute Law of this Realm. For the' Legislative Authority being ef- fential to the Supreme Authority and in- feparable from it, (fince no Power that is lefs than the Sovereign Power can give Laws to a Community,) if I could make it ap- pear, that Kings de frBo^ with their Two Houfes of Parliament, had the Legiflative Power of the Realm, this of it felf would be a decifive Argument in this Controverfy, and the Remarker himfelf at the latter end of the Book, where he refumes this Queftion, owns, that the whole Caitfe depends upon ibc * 'Legislature. The Argument, which I urg'd in main- tainance of the Legiflative Authority of thefe Kings, was this, That Hereditary Kings and their Parliaments, have cited the Laws made by Non-Hereditary Kings and their Par- liaments, in fuch a manner, as acknowledges them to be Legislators equally with them- felves, or any of their Progenitors. The Remarker acknowledges, the A8* ioo k ) wade [6. ] made under Kings de fado to be Statutes, and Laws of the Land, but not by the Au- thority of Kings de facto, but by the Attmv- ance y and prefumptive Confent of the King de jure. * At the latter end of his Remarks, where he refmnes this Subjecl, he doth not deny thofe Laws are in force ^ but denies, that they derive their Force from the Au- thority of thofe that made them. This he repeats over and over again, as often as he has occafion, to fpeak of the Laws of Kings de fatto. So that the (ingle Queftion be- twixt us is, whence thefe Laws derive their Force, whether from the Authority of the Kings and Parliaments that enacted them, or from the presumptive Confent, as he fays, of Kings dejure. And ift. It is to be obferved, that altho* the R&fiarker owns them to be Laws, yet he knows not what to call thefe Laws. Sta- tute Laws, he durit not call them :> for he faith, they were not Laws #/' England, be- * Tie Natural Born Subject agrees v/itl tie Rernarker. There was a neceflity, faith fo, not to vacate the judicial Proceedings in the Reigns of H. IV". V. VI. and this could not be done without allowing the Ails of Pailiament up- on which the judicial Proceedings did depend, and thole Ads being good in themfelve?, Ib far as they related to the Subject, the lawful Kings when they came in, were willivg they jbouldle continued. Letter f. 43. p. 40, P. 101. cartfe caufe made by Kings de &fto, te becaufe the King de jure, -without the formality of a Confirmation, fuffer'J them like our Common Laws y by ufage to become Laws of the Land, being for the benefit of his SubjeEls, and again, they may obtain the force of Statute-Laws made by Kings de jure, by ufe as Cannon Laws * do. Are they then Common-Law ? No, he durft not affirm that neither, nay, he yields to the Truth of what 1 aftirm'd, that tho* Cuftoms are fometimes by Act of Parliament turn'd into Statute-Law -, yet Statutes are not turned into Common Law or Cuflom^ and adds, the ObjeEtor doth not fay^ that thefe Statute* of Kings de fad:o, receive their Authority from immemorial Cuflom : and yet he him- felf faith, that Kings and Parliaments^ by 'reciting them in their Statutes, andfuf- fering them to be pleaded in Weftminfter- Hall, have given them the Jlrength of Im- memorial Cuftom^ i. e. have made them as good Laws as others^ even our Common Laws^ which are fo by immemorial -f* Cuflom. So that here*s a ^d. fort of Laws not known in Weftminfter-Hall. They are not Statute-Laws^ but have the force of * Remarks f. 38, 39. I Remarks f. 40. Statute- Statute-Law : They do not receive their Authority from immemorial Ciiflom^ but have the flrengih of immemorial Cuflom, and are not Common, but as good as our Common Laws. To repeat this Hypothecs, is to confute it. It is a fort of a Riddle, at lead, it puts me in mind of the famous JLnigma of jElia Laha Crifyis^ nee mat nee fewtna, fed om- nia. Thefe Laws, which he at the fame time owns to be in Force, are neither Sta- tute Law, nor Common Law, and yet they are both : They partake of the ftrength of both, and are neither. They are no Laws as they are made, and yet for ufe, are all Laws, i. e. they 2xs,prefumptive 9 they are Hypothecs -Law. But 2_dly. The Reniarker is not only at a lofs to know under what Clafs to reduce thefe Laws, at the fame time that he owns them to be in Force , but leaves us at as great an uncertainty to know which of them are in Force. When he affirms, that thefe Statutes do not derive their Au- thority from the Kings and Parliaments that enadled them, but from the Authority of Kings de jure, could he have produced an Ad of a King dej : itre y and his Parliament in confirmation of thefe Statues, (which alone could have given them Authority, had they had none originally)\ve mould then have known known which of thefe Laws were in Force , becaufe we mould have known , which had been con firmed. Or, could he have produced fome exprefs publick Confent, given foine other way by Kings de jure out of Parliament , tho* this would not have made them Laws of the Realm, if they had not ben fo before^ yet we might have known, at leaft, according to this Hyporhe- fis, which of thefe Statutes had been in Force -, becaufe we mould have known to which fuch an exprefs Confent had been given. But when the Remarker derives the force of thefe Statutes, not from any exprefs and publick, but from a fecret Con- fent, that we are to prefume on, or guefs at , He has left us no way to know which of thefe Laws are valid, and which are null. The reftriclion , that the f Remarker adds to the validity of thefe Laws, that tbej be not in diminution of the Crown, and for || the benefit of the Subjett, is fo far from afcertaining their Obligation , that it leaves it ftill more doubtful $ for as every Man before was left to guefs at the Prince's Confent, fo here Men are made Judges Remarks f. 41. || Remarks f. 41, of of what Laws are to the diminution of the Crown,or againft the publick Good -, of which different Men,as well as different Parties,hav- ing entertain'd different Notions, thofe Laws which are obligatory with fome, would be efteemed Nullities with others. The fafety of the Prince, the Peace of the Community, the Lives, Liberties, and Fortunes of the Subjects depending on the Laws, no- thing ought to be more certain, and better known than their Obligation (to which therefore Promulgation has ever been held to be elTential) whereas nothing is more ob- fcure, uncertain, and precarious, than is the obligation of Laws by this Hypothefis, which leaves it in the dark, and makes it all over Guefs, and Prefumption. Some, who have not throughly confider'd this matter, may wonder, how thefe Per- fons ever came to take up with fo precarious an Hypothefis. But the truth is, they did it not on Choice, but were driven upon it by necefiify. For not being able to deny the validity of the Statutes of Non-Heredita- ry Kings, and yet not knowing at the fame time, how to acknowledge their Legiflative Authority, without deftroying their Caufe, they were forced to look out for fome Authority of Kings de Jure , for thefe ' Laws : But not finding any Confirmation, or F publick [66 3 publick exprefs Confent given to thefe Laws by fuch Kings, either in Parliament, or out of Parliament:, there was no other way left, but to prefume on their fecret Confent to give Authority to them. But this Notion of a prefumptive Con- fent giving Authority to Laws, is as great a Secret, as the fecret Confent it felf. The Remarker agrees with me, that Kings and Parliaments ^Judges, and 'Lawyers have owned thefe Laws to be in Force 5 but he has not been able to produce one Ad of any King, or Parliament, or the Opinion of any Judge, or Lawyer, that afcribes their force to this Prefumptive Confent. No, he flies to the Cafe of one Earbaricus^ a fubordinate Offi- cer in the Roman State, which is no ways parallel to the Cafe before us, either in the Reafon, or the Circnmflances of it ^ and which proves nothing, but that the Englifh Law-Books afford him not the femblance of any Authority. And what can be more abfurd, than to derive the validity of fo great a part of our Satutes from a prefumptive Authority, which neither the Statute Book, nor any Law-Book doth acknowledge, - nor take the leafl notice of ? 4thly. This Legislation of the prefum- ptive Confent, is not only utterly unknown . to our Laws, but utterly inconfiftent with rhem. [671 them : For it refolves the Legiflature, which by our Conftitution is lodg'd in the King, or Queen, and the Two Houfes of Parlia- ment, into the fole Will of the Prince , and that (which makes it as ridiculous, as it is illegal) into his fecret Will. 5thly. AH the Lawyers, Judges, Kings, and Parliaments, who have owned the vali- dity of thefe Statutes, have at the fame time acknowledged the Authority of the Kings, and Parliaments that made them. They have not pleaded them, nor recited them in Acls of Parliament as Statutes in general, nor as Laws that obtain'd their force by Cu- ftom, or prefumptive Confent: But they pleaded, and recited them as Statutes of the Realm, enacled by fuch Kings in their Par- liaments holden at Weftminfter, or elfewhere, in fuch a Year of their Reigns. Of fuch Reci- tals, 1 have given feveral Inftances in the 1 1. Chapter of the View, which the Re- marker faith, might have all beenfpared^ and fo it wa-s indeed neceffary they mould have been fpared, that his Hypothefis might be fpared, thefe Recitals being fo maiw De- monftrations again ft it. For by thefe reci- tals it appears, that at the fame time thofe Kings and Parliaments acknowledge the va- lidity of the Laws, they acknowledge the Authority of their refpe&ive Legiflators : F 2 ' Nay C 68 3 nay they acknowledge no other validity in thofe Laws, than what is derived from the Legislative Authority of thofe Kings and Parliaments that enafted them. And this they do as fully acknowledge (for they ac- knowledge it in the very fame Terms) as thev do the validity of the Statutes, and the" Legislative Authority of any of their de jure Progenitors. I referr'd to Laws made by Kings de faElo in favour of the Subjed, which had been afterwards intrenched on by the Prerogative of ' Kings de jure. Now if the Laws of Kings de fa&o were null in themfelves, and had no Authority, but what they re- ceived from the confent of fucceeding Kings de jure ^then the Awards,and Proceedings of a King de jure, in oppofition to the Laws of a King defaEto, would be legal. But fuch Awards, and Proceedings have been declared by a King de jure, and his Parliament, to be il- legal. Whence it follows,that the Laws of Kings de faBo^ are fo far from receiving their Au- thority from the prefumptive Confent of Kings de jure, that they are valid even againft a King de jttre's exprefs DifTent to them. See the I. Rich. 111. ch. 2. and the Petition of Right 3. Car. I. But thefelnftan- ces, as well as all the Recitals, the Re- marker, and the Natural Born Sub j eft wife- ly, pafs over. When [691 When the Remarker has not been able to give the ieaft fhadow of a proof from our Laws, or Law Books, for this Chimera of a prefumptive Confent } I may be allowed to pafs over his inconclusive Reafon?, why the Statutes of Kings de fado fiould remain tit Force, and yet the Authority of thofe Kings not be acknowledged. Only one of b:s Rea- fon, I (hall take notice of, becaufe he re- peats it, and lays great ftrefs upon it, vix. That Kings de jure fnffer the Laws of Kings de fado to be in Force, becauje 'tis not fafe to unravel things too far, to un- hinge the Government, and to deveft them of Laws they have been itfed to, and chnfe themfelves. * But fuppofing, as the Re. marker doth, that fuch Laws had originally no Authority, to give them Authority by Ad of Parliament, would be fo far from unravelling things, and devefling the People of their Laws, that it would have been the only way to fix every thing, and fecure their Laws to them. And one Ad of P f ;r- Hament in the beginning of Edward the IVth's Reign, for in fiance, which a Com- mittee would have drawn up at two or three Sittings, would have confirmed all the Laws made hv the Three Kings of the * Remarks p. 40, 104. F Houfe Houfe of Lancafler. And there can be no reafon why this Confirmation was not given, but becaufe Edward IV. his Parliament, and Judges, knew they were valid with- out it. For when there has been reafon to doubt of the validity of Ads of Parlia- ment, it has been always thought fit to con- firm tji em. As the Ads made 12. dr. II. becaufe that Parliament was not calPd by the King's Writs, were all enumerated,and confir- med in an Adpafs'd 13. Car. II. ch. 7. En- titled, An AB to confirm publick Afls. The Natural Born Subjetf, with great Affu- rance, afks me, can you give one Jingle In- fiance out of all our Records of any AB of Parliament made by a Rightful * King that ever was confirmed for want offitfficient Au- thority ? Here's one Inftance for him, and a famous one ^ and he may find another 13. Car. II. ch. 13. But neither He, nor the Rewarker, have been able to produce one publick Ad, of all the numerous Ads that were made by the Three Kings of the Houfe of Lancafter in 60. Years, that was confirm'd by Edward IV. or efteemed to want hisConfirmation,(thofefew private Ads which were con firm'd, were confirmed for pri- vate Reafon?)for without it, they were held to * Letter f. 49. be be of as good Authority, as his Own Ads. But the Natural Born Subjett will have it, that they are fill liable to be qiieftioifd. What ! liable to be queftion'd by Law ? By his, and the * Remarker's Hypothefis-Law, they may be liable to be queftion'd: Not by the Law of the Realm: No, not as it was held even in the Courts, and by the Judges of Edward the IV. for when it was urged, that Bagot's Patent of Natura- lization granted by Hen. Vlth was not good-, becaufe Patents of Naturalization were not confirmed in the Ad: of the i. Ed. IV. ch. i. which was made to confirm the judi- cial Proceedings of the Three Henries-^ This Plea was rejeded, and judgment given for the validity of Bagot's Patent of Naturalization, which flood folely upon Henry the Vlth's Authority. As this judgment of Edward the IVth's Judges may convince the Natural Born Snbjefty that the Dodrine he lays down with fo much Aflurance, that fuch Afls? unlefs confirm d^ were fiill liable to be queftiorfd for want of fufficient Authority ^ is not Law : So is it a full Determination againft His, and the Remarker's prefumptive Con fent-Authority - 5 for here was no Room left to prefume on Edward the IVth's Confent Letter p. 4%. * FA to to this Patent, fince he had left Patents of Naturalization out of that Ad, wherein he gave his exprefs Confent to fuch Ads of the Three Henries, that he would have {land: And yet this Ad by Henry theVIth's Authority, which had not Edward thz IVth's Confent, was held valid without it, as va- lid as thofe that had it, or as anv of his own Ads. The QbjeBor according to this Notion of the prefiiroptive Confent-Legiflation, fiid Richard III. AEls of Parliaments pafs d for Laws, becaufe H. VII. was willing they jbould pafs for Laws. To convince him ofhisMi- ftake, I inftanced in two Ads of Parliament made by Richard, One. which baftardized Ed- ward the IVth's Children, Another that at- tainted He nry the Vllth's Friends,which (the laftefpecially) Henry the Vllth was certainly not willing mould pafs for Laws : Nay he was unwilling, as my Lord Bacon obferves, fo much regard mould be paid to Richard'^ Attainders, as to have .them formally re- pealed. And yet when the Judges were con- fulted , they unanimously declared, that the Pcrfons attainted could not take their Pla- ces in -Parliament, until their Attainders, tho' patted' by a Kingdefaflo, were reverfed by Ad of Parliament. The Author of the Cafe of Allegiance having faid, that thefe Attainders were re- verfed, 731 verfed, not becaufe they were valid, but out of Caution. I obferved, that the reafon the Judges gave for the Reverfal, that they were not legal Perfons, till their . ABs of Attainder were reverfed, fhews, that it was not Caution,but the Conflitution that required it. Upon which the Remarker fays, what Mr. H. drives at, I know is this, that the Attainder of a de faclo, muft be rever- fed, otherwife the Perfon attainted, is not a Legal Perfon. * Mr. H. only cited the unanimous Refolution of all the Judges, who declared, that the Perfons who were at- tainted by Richard III. King in FaEl, and not of Right, were not Legal Perfons till their Attainders -were reverfed. Which, faith the Remarker, is a grofs Miflake, and they were reverfed only out of abundant Caution. What, notwithftatiding the King and Parlia- ament proceeded agreeably to the Opinion of the Judges? Yes, notwithftanding this, He fays, it is a grofs Miftake,i\izt is, the King and Parliament, and all the Judges of the Realm, were of One Opinion , and the Re- marker is of Another. By which Authority are we to be concluded ? But the Remarker has another Anfw^r, * Remarks p. 46. Ibid. P. 48. that [ 74] that the Judges knew H. VII. had no Right* If one mould afk him, how he knows that the Judges knew this, he would be hard put to it to prove it. However, let us for once grant that they might believe fo, and then he will be diftrefled by the Judges Refo- lutionof the fecond Queftion, touching the King's Attainder, that the King Henry VIL whom the kemarket fays, they believed, had no Right"] was a Perfon able and dif- charged of all Attainders, and Disabilities ipfo fafto, that he was invefted with the Regal Dignity, and 'was King, and thus all the Objections againft his Perfon, or his Title, from Attainders, or other (tops, and de- feds of Blood,were entirely removed : So thai let the Remarker take which fide of the Queftion he pleafes, that H. VII. had a Right antecedent to his Pofleflion, or that he had not - ? one of the two Refolutions of the Judges, isdireftly againft him, and neither of them for him. If he fays, H. VII. hqd a Right antecedent to his Pofreflion :, their firft Resolution concludes againft him. But if he fays, he had no antecedent Right-, their latter Refolution is decifive againft the Remarker, and for the Sovereign Authority of the King for the time being. Towards the lattter end of theBook,where the Remarker re&mes this Argument, he makes 1 711 makes an objection to the Legiflative Power of the Three He?iries,from the i. Edward IV. ch. i. where he calls them fretenfed Kings, and other Statutes where he calls them Kings indeed, and not of Right :, but this Objection was obviated by what was faid in the view, as the Remarker might have ob- ferved, but fince he did not, I mud repeat part of it. i ft. Whenever Edward IN. cites the Laws of theHoufeofLtf<7rf/?d?r,he always gives them the Title, of late Kings of this Realm in Deed, and not of Right -, whereby he owns them to have been Kings of this Realm, but withal, that they ought not to have been fo. Nay, he doth not even now pretend, that his great Uncle, Edmund Earl of March, or his Father .Rid?. Duke of 2V,accordingto the Remarked Hypothefis, were Kings of Right during the time, that the Three Henries were Kings in Deed.Neither He 5 nor his Parliament,nor Judg^ es, ever imagined, fas the Rewarker and Natu- ral Born SubjeEls do,)that the unpofTefled,un- recognized Heirs were Kings de jure, fub- fifling at the fame time, that others were Kings in FnEl. But notwithflanding this abatement of Title, whenever Edward IV. cites their Laws, he acknowledges their Legiflative Authority to be equal to that of any of his PredecefTors, and challenges no other C 76 ] other Authority for his own Laws, than be owns theirs had, and ought to have * had. adly. As we never meet with this diflin- ftion of Kings in Deed, and not of Right, throughout all the Revolutions of Govern- ment, till in this Statute of Edward IV. So it is to be obferved, that it is in the Sta- tutes only of the immediate Rivals and Suc- cefTors that we meet with it, but never af- terwards. It is only in the Statutes of Edward IV. that the Three Henries -, and in thofe only of Henry VI I. that Richard III. is ftiled King in Deed, and not of Right. In the Statutes of all the fucceeding Kings and Queens , the Three Henries, and Richard III. are filled Kings of England, without the leafl diminution of Title. gdly. At common Law, in the Courts even of their Rivals, the Regal Title is con- flantly given them without any Abatement. Whenever H. VI. is mention'd in the Courts of Edward IV. the fame Title is given to him, that is given to Edward IV. when He is mention 'd in the Courts of EdwardV. When Henry VI. is mention'd in the Courts of Edward lV. He is fly I'd l'auter Roy, as Edward IV. himfelf is filled Roy qid ore ell. All the difference betwixt them is, One, is See 14. Edward IV- cl. z. jrinted at the end of tins' Book. the [77] the late King -, and the Other, thefrefent King The fame ftile is obferved in the Courts of Hen. VII. when Richard HI. is named. Another Objection has been drawn by confequence from the Attainders, and the Language of them , which, as I had faid, was no confutation of thofe full and direcl Proofs, which I had made of the Legiflative Au- thority of the Kings for the time being. Nor could the Objeftor, with whom I was then engaged, fay they were : Who acknow- ledged both H. VI. and Edward. I V. to be in their Turns, Kings and Legislators, not- with ftanding their mutual Attainders of each other. Nay, the Remarker himfelf p. 44. fays, as for Attainders tbere is no great ftrefs to be laid upon them , bee ait fe they are ufed on both fides. However, towards the end of his Remarks, not knowing well what elfe to lay a ftrefs upon, he is for laying a very great ftrefs upon the Attainders. But before he had done this, he ought to have confider'd. i ft. That the very fame Parliament, that attainted Richard III. did however, as I have obferved already, fo fully acknow- ledge his Legilhtive Authority, that they had, as we have feen, no other way to re- lieve the Perfons who lay under the Penalty of his E78] his Adls of Attainder, but by repealing them. They did not fay, with the Remarker, and "Natural Born Subjeft, that they were not Kings, nor Legifbtors :, that their Afts were Nullities, or had no legal Effecls . No, they exprefly acknowledged they had fuch kgal effefts, as could not be vacated, but by an Act of Parliament : Which plainly fhe ws, that whatever other Confequences may be drawn from the Attainders of thefe Kings, there can be no confequence drawn from them, that will affeft their Legiflative Power. adly. That, as an antecedent Attainder cannot touch a Prince in his fubfequent Ex- ercife of the Regal Power : So for the fame reafon, a fubfequent Attainder cannot affed a Prince in the Exercife of his Regal Power antecedent to the Attainder. And for both thefe, I have produced undeniable Autho- rities, to which the Remarker has given no other, but the thred-bare Anfwer of/w ra- tione juris. gdly. The Remarker has affirmed, but not proved, that thefe Kings were attainted for their Exercife of the Regal Power. Henry VI. was not, as he fuppofes, p. 70. attainted by Edward IV. for that reafon, but for the Death of Ricbard Duke of Tork, at the Bat- tle QiWakefeld. And as the Remarker may fee C 79 ] fee,by what hath been faid,what unjuft Confe- quences he draws from the Language of the Attainders : So there needs nothing more to convince him of the Injuftice of this At- tainder, than the Hiftory of it as it is re- lated by the Author of the Ecclefia/iical Hifto- ry, which I have fo often cited. After this Author had given fotne account of the Agree- ment made in Parliament between King/f. VI. and Richard Duke of Tork, he adds, the Duke of York'j next Point was to fecure the Queen. This Lady, he had reafon to imagine^ would not Jit down tamely, and fee her Hit/bands Royalty Eelipfed, and her Son difmherited without fome Attempt for their Recovery. To prevent being embaraffd from this Quarter : The Duke prevailed with the King to fend for the Queen, and her Son to London. The Queen inflead of obeying the Order, levied an Army in the North, under the Command of the Dukes of Exeter, and Sommerfet. The ProteBor (for fo the Duke of Tork had got himfelf made in Par- liament) receiving Intelligence of this Pre- paration, leaving the King under the Guard of his * Friends, the Duke And yet both the former, and the latter were convidted, in the ordinary courfe of Proceed- ings, by Indictments on the 2$. EdwardlM. The Natural Born Subjeft denies the Fad, faying, Ms was not the conjlant way of pro- ceeding ^ for many were fut to Death with- out Attainders : The Duke 0/Sommerfet, and fever al other Lords , and * Gentlemen were fut to Death without Attainders, by Edw. W. for fighting for Henry VL There were Executions indeed, as I took notice, in the Heat of the Viftors Rage, without any Colour of Procefs -, and I faid, that fome of the Attainders were no more to be drawn into confequence, than thofe Executions : And if this be what the natu- ral born Subjett means, when he fays there * Letter .9 5. G 2 where were Ptrfons- -put to Death without At* tawder^ he faysitrue, but trifles at the fame tuyu j,;fur this is {till a more violent Courfe than Attainders therafelves. But if he means, the Duke oiSotnmerfet and the reft were put to Death upon a Sentence after a Convi- ction by a Jury, in the ordinary Courfe of Proceedings by Indictment, why'did he produce no Teflimonies from Hiftory in Proof of it ? If this Author expects to be believed without Ay2iorities, yet it is too much to believe him againft Authorities. Now Stow relates the Matter thus. After the Battel ofTewk- fBury, King Edward entering a Church in Tewkfbury with his Sword dravon^ a Prieft brought the Sacrqwevb again fl him ^ and would not let him enter until be bad granted his Par- don to tbefe that follow -, Edmund Duke of Somnjerfet, S.trother Lord St. John'j (whom the'natural born SnbjeB fplits into feveral othej Lords,) Sir Humphrey Audiey, and twelve more. All the fa where they might have efcafed^ tarried-int.be Church ', tirvfting in the 'Kings Pardon, from Saturday till Monday y viben. they were taken out and beheaded. * Sir William ~Dugdale^ in his Account of this Duke of Sommerfet, faith, that notwithftan- * Stow in Edward IV. f. 44. t Coke'j Injl. fart 4. c. i.p. 7, ding ding be fled from the Eattel of Tewksfyiry, be was overtaken and there loft his Hsad* Some fay that he got into the Church for San- Buary and there was killed, Leland^ Ttiris- rary Vol. 6. 93. And will the natural fwrn SubjeEl call this putting Men to Death in the ordinary way of Proceedings,? HoUin^hed fi- deed makes mention of a Trial of the Duke-of Sommerfet, <3cc. And fuppofe we fhould take his Account of this Matter, rather than that xvhich is given by the other Hiftorians (which is not reafonable) yet even -this I think will do the natural born Subject no Service -, for HolHngJhed tells us, what Perfons fat. as High Con/table y and Earl Marfbal-^ which plainly friows, that if there was anv Trial, it was before a Court Martial flagrante Betto^ where abfolute Power, and not the Laws of the Land take place, and which is as far from the ordinary Caurfe of Procee- dings, as that of Attainder?. Dngdak's Baronage Tom. z.$. izy. G* CHAP, CHAP. III. A "Defence of ike third Chapter wherein fome other Objections to the Legiflative Authority ofthefe Kings are anfwer'J. THE Objedion from Edward IVth's Confirmation of a few private Ads I have anfwered in the foregoing Chapter, and turned it upon the Reraarker, in- that there was not one of the numerous publick Ads that were made in the Reigns of the three Hen- ries ever confirmed, and yet flood, and, ex- cept fuch of them as have been repealed, do ftand in Force to this Day. But the Remar- ker fays, that King Edward IVttfs Non-repea- ling their ABs^ was fnfficient to give them the force of 'Laws , being beneficial to the Subject. This is but his Crambe of prefumptive Con- fent in other Words, and as he has exprefs'd it, he might with as much reafon have faid, that a Falfliood, by not being contradided, be- comes a Truth ; or that the many Errors of the Remarks and the Letter would, if they had not been confuted, have commenced fo many Truths, as that the Non repealing of an Atty which was originally null, gives \\ the Force of a Law, * Rem, p. 51, i A* As for their Laws being beneficial to the SiibjeB, and for the publick Good^ to which he partly afcribes their Obligation (for he knows not well where to place it) this he often repeats, without taking the leaft notice of what I had faid in Confutation of that Notion, or giving any Account how thofe Laws which were not for the publick Good, but prejudicial to it, came to be in Force, and to continue in Force in the Reigns of their Rivals (and they continued in Force till they were repealed) as well as their inoft beneficial Statutes. Inftead of confidering the Anfwers I gave to the Objection that is drawn from the Re- vocation made 2 1 Richard II. of the Confir- mation of the Judgment againft the two Spencers i Edward III. he has referred me to a learned Author, who had not himfelf confider'd thofe Arguments I offer'd. And as before I gave the Lord Chief Ju- fticej Cokes's Opinion for the Validity both of the Judgment againft the two Spencers i Ed- ward III. and of the Repeal of I Henry IV. of the Revocation of that Judgment 1 1 Ri- chard II. So let the Remarker try where he can name any Lawyer of note that has been of a different Opinion 5 nay, let him look into ^the Statute Book, and fee whether all * Km. p. 41, G 4 the [88] the Statutes made i Ed. III. whilft his Father was alive, are nor this day in Force, (as one of them is cited for a Law of this Realm 16 Car. i. c. 15.) 'and whether all the reft of the A els made 2 1 Rich. II. as well as that of the Revocation of the Judgment againft the two Spencers, have not ever fince ftood Repealed, and do ftand repealed at this day by the Authority of Henry IV. and his firft Parliament. As for inftance, an Aft of the 21 Richard II. had multiplied the Kinds of Treafon, which Aft was Repealed i Henry.IV. c. ic. and Treafon reduced to the old Stan- dard of the 25. Edward III. * And can the Rewarker, or natural born Subject mow that any Man was ever tryed for Treafons upon the Statute of Richard II. after that Statute was Repealed by H. IV ? Or will they fay that liotwithftanding that Repeal of Hen- rj IV. any Man may be now, or might at any time fince have been tryed for Treafon by the 21. Rich. II. and not by the 25. Edward III > After this, I need not fay that this Repea- led Parliament of the ii.Ricb.ll. on which thefe two Authors lay fo great a Strefs, Was Council. Hift. of his Trial p. not 1*91 not duly eleded,and fummoned, the Knights being not chofen by the Cora in on s, front Mos exigit, fed per Regiam Voluntatem. And as for the Lords, fummoneri fecit Rex omnes Deminos Jilri adherentes. And as it was not regularly call'd : fo neither did it ad with Freedom, but was held viris armatis & Sagittariis immenjis , as is declared in the Parliament Roll i Henry IV. n. 21, 22. Another Objection, which I confidered,was the Declaration of Parliament 39. Henry VI. That the Duke of York'j Title could not be defeated. This I faidwas a partial Declara- tion of an awed Parliament, when the King's Army was defeated, and the King himfelf the Duke's Prifoner : Other wife they might have declared, that his Title was defeated by Ads of his own, as well as by Ads of Parliament. They might, I faid, have decla- red this, upon the Principles of thofe with whom we are difputing -, who when they are prefs'd with the Commands of Holy Scri- pture to render unto Cugdale y J"hat he ferved King Henry Vth in his Wars in France-, from Rymer f that he was in thq fifth Year of Henry Vth. made Ad- miral at Sea. That in the fixth Year of that King, He was conftituted Lieutenant of Nor- mandy^ and Warden of the Marches. And that in the firft Year of H. VI. He was made Lieutenant of Ireland by that Kin a:, as appears both from * Ditgdale and f Ey- mer. And to mew you how good a Subject lie was, and what an entire Confidence thefe two Kings had in him , I'll give you || Part of a Commiffion from each of thefe Kings to Edmund Earl of March who dyed in Ireland. Jan. 19. in the * third Year of Henry VI. after he had lived in this en- * Baronage Torn. i. under the Title of March. { Rymrfs Fcedera, Tom IX. p. 472. * Baronage ut fupra. U A. D. 1418. An. 6. H. 5. Rex omnibus ad quos &c faluteiri. fciatis quod nos de fidelitate, probirate, & cir- cuinfpeftione cariiliini confanguinei noftri Edwundi Coniitis Marcbia plenius confidentes, ordinavimus &conftituimus ipfum Comiterh Locum tenentein & Cuftodem geneiuln: omnium Terrarura & Marchiarum totius Ducatus nuftri Kormanniz, &c. habendum occupaiidum vegendum & exer- cendumotricium praediclum quamdiu nobis phcuerit, &c. ' Fced,Tcm. IX. p. spz. tire C 92 ] tire Sub'je&ion to the Three Kings of the Houfe of Lane after. I might obferve alfo from f Rymer, that Richard Earl of Cambridge , who married the Sifter and Heir of the Earl of Marcb^ and who was Father to Richard Duke of 2V&, affifted K. H. V. in his Wars in France. But I come to Richard Duke of Tork, who one would almofl think, by the Remarker's way of fpeakingofhisD//r^/}, that he was fcarce ever out of Prifon. But the Remarker may find in Sir William Du^dale, that in the eighth Year of K. H. VI." He was Gon- ftable of England. In the loth of that King, he was fent with a Commiilion to fecure the Sea Coafts of Normandy. In the 1 2th. He was fent General, with the Duke of Sowwerfet, to fupprefs an Infurredion in Normandy. In the i^th was joyned with * A. D. 1413. An. i . H. 6. Rex omnibus ad quos&c. fa- lutem, fciatis quod nos,'de>fidelitate & circumfpedione ca- riffimi confanguinei noftri Ednnindi Comitis Mcfrclria. Qf Ui~ tones, pleniusconfidentes, de Avifamento& Aflenfu magnr Concilii noftri, ordinavimus & conftituimus ipfum Comi- tem Locum tenentem Terrs noftrsyHiberniae, habendum&c. a prime die quo idem comes, vel deputatus fuus in terra noftra przdiaa applicabit ufque ad finem novem annorum. proximo fequentium & plenarie Coinpletorum. Rymefs Fx dera Tom. TO. p.iSa. J- Dugdale Baronage under t?x Title of March. | Faedera &c. Tom. 9. p. zjo. him C93] him in Commiflion to govern France. In the 1 8th of K. H. VL was conftituted Lieu- tenant and Captain General for all France and Norrnandj. In the '2 3d of that King was made Regent of France and "Normandy. In the 29th of H. VI. was conftituted Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. In the 32 of H. VI. was made Protedor of the Realm, and in the 35th H.VL made Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. * And let me now aflc the Rewarker, whether thefe were not Inftances of an entire Subjection in the Heirs of theHoufe of Tork ? Could they have given greater proofs of a voluntary Subjection, than by undertaking and exe- cuting thefe great Charges ? And will the l&etnarker ftill fay, they were in Durefs > In Durefs, when they were Admirals at Sea, Generals of great Armies in remote Countries, Regents, and Lieutenants of Great Kingdoms? . Not to enquire how many times the Duke of Tork repeated his Oath of Fidelity to K. H. VI. when he was admitted to thefe great Offices, or how often he took Oaths to him upon other Occafions, as that Oath which the Duke of York, and Buck'mghajn, the Two Archbifhops, Eleven Bifhops, Six * Sir William DugdaleV Baronage, Tcin. 2. .? i SP- 1 Co. t<5i, &c. under the Title of York, Earl?, [94] Earls, Two Vifcounts, Eighteen Abbots, Two Priors , and Seventeen Barons took in Parliament unto Henry VI. in the 33d. Year of his Reign, Jsovemb. 25. for their Allegiance unto the King. * Not to make this Enquiry, fmce that Oath || which the Duke of Tork took in the goth Year of H. Vlth's Reign at St. Paul's Crofs, being a Renunciation of his Own, and a Recog- nition of H. VI. Right, was, as well his accepting, and executing thofe great Com- nriflions, abundantly fufficient to defeat his Title. The Remarker, to avoid this confe- quence, will have the Duke of Tork to be in f Ditrefs when he took this Oath but let him look into Stow * and he will find, that he was at full Liberty at that time j nay, that in the 3 1 ft. Year of that Reign, he took this Oath again at Weflrmnfler^ and at Coventry at fundry Times. -\ Since then he was not in Durefs, but at full Liberty, when He took and repeated this Oath, the Confequence fure is unavoidable. No faith the Remarker, Grant this too that he was at Liberty, what then? Why then you'll *See tU Book of Oaths $.14$. |j See Stow/'. 395. fSee Remarks f. 16, $J. "* Stow ibid. t Stowf. 3 o<5. fy C95 3 fay he bad quitted bis Claim. I beg Mr. H's. pardon y no Jucb matter I can ajjure you, but tbe quite contrary -, for the very fwearing of Allegiance upon an Agreement, was fofar from weakning bis Title y that it rather ftrengtbened it. * That Oath which Mr. H. calls a Recognition of Henry VL Right , was indeed or de fadlo Henry VL Recognition of Richard Duke of YorkV Right, for faith he, Richard Duke of Tork took this Oath upon an Agreement, f He goes on, if all be trite which Ihavefaid, as it is y the Gentlemen may ft ill fay y that tbe Right of the Jews and Roman Senate was defeated, and that the Roman Emperours were rightful Governours y becaufe the Jews and Roman Senate had fubmitted and fworn Allegiance to them ^ and yet nevertbelefs the Honfe of York, tbo* they bad fworn Allegiance to the PoffeJJor, bad fiill a good Title , and fitch as the Ufurper by tbe Agreement owned. Tbe Gentlemen he [peaks of may abide by their Anfwer, and yc, not own that the Duke's Title was defeated, and may buUly if Cromwell had had, what he had not, he would have been, what he was not. But ac- cording to Mr. J/'s. Hypothefis , Cromwell had not the Legislative Power, nor was King for the Time being, and therefore the He- reditary King was not oblig'd to acknowledge his Ads, as he. never did, Qvgbt C 105] Ought not this then, (to life Mr. HV. Words) to conclude all private Subjects . by the Statute Law of this Realm, with an Anfwer to the mojl considerable Qbje- Biom. Lthough the Allegiance of the Sub- jecT: to Kings for the Time being >th follow as a neceflary Confequence from their being inverted with the Legifla- tive Authority, yet I took notice, that we had alfo exprefs Statutes for it. As firft, the Statute of Treafons made 35. Edw.lll. which declares what Offen- ces are Treafon againft our Sovereign Lord the King. And that by our Sovereign Lord the King in this Statute, is underflobd only the King in PoJJeffwn of the Crown and King- dom, tho* he be Rex de' fado, and not de jure, we had the Opinions of two great Lawyers, the Lord Chief Juftice Coke and Hale ^ and no great Lawyer's Opinion, as far as I knew, to the contrary. Could the Remarker have produced any great Lawyer that has contradicted either of thefe chief Juftices, he would not have produced Prin, 3 at lead he would not have produced him alone, who never had any great reputation either for Skill or Integrity. But becaufe Prin makes both Pages in the Remarks, let the Remarker read Mr. Collier's Preface to his * Ecclefiaftical Hiflory, where he exa- mines Pf/tt's 2d. Vol. of Records, and thinks he finds him light upon the Scale, and that there lye flrong preemptions again/I his Skill or Integrity, or both, which may ferve, faith. he, as a Caution of that Author in other Matters. The Remarker } cites however Moor's Re- ports where it is faid, that Allegiance fal- lows the Natural Perfon, (and that mtift,(mh the Remarker, be under flood of the King ds jure, as if a King de faflo had not a Natu- jal Perfon,) for if the King is by Force driven out of his Kingdom y and another vfurps - 5 not- with ft an ding this, the Allegiance of the Sub- jeEl does not ceafe, tbo* the Law does. I could in this very Cafe cite a Paragraph, which I am fure the Remarker will not fub- fcribeto: But to go no farther than his Ci- ation, in which by another that ufurps un- der whom the Law does ceafe, he would underftand a King de faBo, but this cannot * Preface f. 4. f Remarks ?. 6 1, 66. be, be, becaafe the Law is fo far from cea- iing under a King de fatfo, that it is admi- niftred not only actually, but legally admi- niftred by him, and difcontinued only by his Demjfe, as I have (hewn not only from Bagot's but feveral other Cafes. And there- fore by another that ufurps, muft he under- ftood a Simon Monfort^i'L'idy Jane Gr/f^or an Oliver under whom the Laws did ceafe,and no judicial Proceedings were valid farther than they were afterwards confirmed. He cites Coke's Report of Calvin's cafe, where it is faid, true and faithful Legiance 9 and Obedience is an Incident infep arable to every Sub] eft as fo on as be is born. And he calls it Natural Allegiance , faith the Remar- ker, which can -never be due to a King de fafto, in oppofition to a King de jure. * Thefe Jaft Words are the Remarker's Glofs, but .the Words of the Report amount to no more than this, that every Perfon is born in fub- jedion to Government, and to whomfoever the Laws of that Government under which he is born, direct him to pay his Allegiance, to him he ought to pay it : And why that may not be to the King for the Time being, if the Laws require it, I fee no reafon -, for certainly the Laws of Nature do neither tell us who is our Prince, nor what meafures of Obedience are due to him. If they did, as as the Laws of Nature are every where the fane, Perfons would be entitled to Sove- reignty by the fame way, and the meafures of Obedience would be the fame in all Coun- tries, in England ', in France, and in Poland, which no Man fure will fay : And therefore Natural Allegiance is the fame with Legal Allegiance, and go both together, as the Re- marker has obferv'd from Sir EJiv.Coke.^Si. But iince he has cited, Calvbfs Cafe, let me put him in mind of a Maxim laid down there (than which there is not a clearer in the whole Cafe) Prote&io trabit fubjettia- nem,& fubjettio trabit prote8ionem:VJhich be- ing, underftood, as it ought to be by the whole .tenor of the Cafe, of the Protection of a King, .is of it felf fufRcient to determin the Senfe of the 2 5 Edw. III. againft the Revtarker,and to .put an end to the whole Controverfy. Judge HaleV Opinion, as 'tis represented m fas Pleas of the Crown, is of no value in tbe World, faith the Remarker, becaufe it was a Pojlhwnous Work written in bis younger Tears about tbe End of K. Charles 7". p. 65. The Work indeed was Pofth umous, but ge- nuine -, and he in his younger Years, tho* not fo very young towards the latter End of K. Cb. I. but as young as he was, he was at that time one of the brighteft Men of his Prpfeffion , ptherwife }je would not .have 'been C been chofen of Council to the E. of Straff ord, and Archbifhop Land, and defign'd for the BlefTed Martyr himfelf, had he thought it fit to have pleaded in that villainous Courr.Tho' he was probably the youngeft of Archbifhop Laud^s Council, yet Archbifhop Sancroft has put this Note in the Margin of the Hi- flory of that great Prelate's Tryal. That the Lord Chancellor Finch told him, that the Argument which was delivered by Mr. Hern. at A. B. L. Tryal was not his (tbo* he pro- nounced it) but Mr- Hale'j, afterwards Lord Chief * Juflice. But becaufe the Rewarker, fpeaking with the laft contempt of this Book, fays, no one that is a Lawyer would make, life ofjuch a Work, tbo 9 Mr. H. f does, he may find it cited as a good Authority by the late Lord Chief Juftice Holt in a printed Tryal - 5 and I am told by thofe that frequent the Courts, that it is frequently cited with Authority both from the Bench and Bar. As the Remarker has attacked the Repu- tation of the Book, the N. B. Subject attacks the reputation of the Author. Then for Hales, faith he, He was a Judge under Oliver, as you may fee in his Life by Dr. Burner. And therefore there lay not the leaft Tern- Tie Troubles and Try ah. * Hi/lory of A, B. Laud's f. 42 z f Remarks f. 6 j. ftation C "3 3 ptation (he means, there lay a great Tem- ptation inhis way,)r0 palliate and 'fmooth over a Caufe, wherein he had been fa far con- cerned. * But he fhould have told us how little Sir Matthew Hale had been concerned ^ he Ihould have told us,that before he took this Commiflion, hfe was much urged to accept it ly fome eminent Men of hi sown Profeffionjwho were of the Kings Party, as Sir Orlando Bridgeman, and Sir Geoffery Palmer j and was alfo fatisfed concerning' the lawfitlnefs of it by fome famous Divine 's, in particular^ Dr. Sheldon and Dr. Henchman, who were afterwards promoted to the Sees 0/ Canter- bury and London.Ttef/V he did accept this Commiffion from Oliver^ he would make no Declaration acknowledging his Authority, nor try any State Prisoners f -, and he was conftant to his Refolution, and never did either of them. Had the 'Natural Born SubjeB told us this, as he might have done from the Book that he cites, he had done Juftice to this great Man's Memory, and would have let the Reader fee, that the Chief Juftice did, as our Laws do, make a manifefl Difference betwixt a King de faclo, and an Oliver j and that the former is within the purview of * Letter p. 76. J- See tlx Bijbojt o/Sarum'sIi/i? of Sir M. i the the 2 5th -Edw. III. and the latter is not. In the mean time, how fcrnpulous is the 2\ 7 . B. Subjeft in his Chronology, who makes the - Judge tempted to deliver this Opinion in his Pleas of the Crown, to fmooth over a Cotn- rniflion that he did not accept till many Years after that Book was written ? for the Com- r million was not taken till 1653, and the Book was written in K. Charles the firft's -Reign,- as he -may fee in the Remarks. The Natural Born Subjett mentions a MS. of the Chief Ju (lice's, which yet I don't per- ceive he has ever feen. ; for he doth not tell ns where it is to be found, nor cites any thing from it, and therefore I need fay nothing to it. adly. This, appeared,! faid, to be the fenfe of t-be Stature, not only from the Opi- - nions of the greatefi Lawyers, but alfo from the nature and defign of the Law, which was only declarative:, not to make newS^- c its's of Treafon, but; only to declare thofe - Offences to be Treafon 'by this Statute, which were fo before , by common Law and Ufage. And therefore.as thofe Offences only are Treafon by this Statute, which were fo be- . fore by the Common Law and Ufage of the Realm : So by the King in this Statute,againft whom-thofe offences are Treafon,He only muft beunderftood,who was King by the fame com- mon Law and Ufage,which I have prov'd to be the Regnant King. Upon which the Remarkfi fays, C J. is a bold Man to a (fen this, for llc~ lievejoe has not one 'Lawyer (farce the Conqneft, (provided he can fnd one Regnant King with- out an Hereditary Title or a Pretence to it) that willjland by him in this Affertwn^ * and yet he himfelf has juft before been oppofing the Authority of two Chief Juftices, Coke, arid Hale^ for averting the fame } and who aiTerted it, without his Provifo, or any thing like it , and has not been able in the mean time to produce one Lawyer,unlefs it be Pr/w, a very indifferent one, that has contra- dicted either of them. But, I faid, we fhould eafily be determined to this fenfe of the Statute, when we con- fider that as before this Statute, and a long time after it, the diflinction of King dejure and fafatfo was not known : So the Reg- nant King only could be King in this Sta- tute, (ince there was no other King but He : Others indeed fometimes pretended a better Right to the Throne, than the Prince that poifefs'd it , but they never ailum'd the Re- gal Title, nor did their Adherents ever give it them, nor the Hiftorians who wrote in thofe Times or of them,and of this I have given feveral Inftances. Htmarkt fify The Remarker talks of the Right not afjuming the Regal Title, becanfe in Durefs p. 52. and (ays, there are Cafes when a Man dare not foy, his Soul is his own, p. 69. What does the Remarker mean > Was this the Cafe of Robert Duke of Normandy, when he claimed either againft his Brother King William Ritfus, or Henry I > Of Maud when me claimed againft King Stephen, and had him for fome time in real Durefs? Of Arthur, againft King John ? Which were the very Inftances I gave. Were not thefe Sovereign Princes in Poffeflion of large Ter- ritories, and Maud the Wife of a Sove- reign ? And were not every one of them, in, their times, at the Head of powerful Armies, when they fet up their Claims ? But in Utopia, it feems, this is to be in Durefs. But to bring the Remarker thence into England, what hinder'd thefe Claimants from taking the Regal Title, when they invaded the Kingdom with ftrong Armies? Was it not becaufe they knew, that the Realm knew but one King, who was the Regnant King ? and who therefore, as I faid, muft be the King in this Statute, fince there was no other King but He. The learned and ingenious Ecclefiaftical Hiftorian, whom I have fo often cited, when he comes to the Reign of King Stephen, makes [ makes it the Reign of Maud, and dates all the occurrences of that Time by the Year's of her Reign, until the Compromife betwixt Stephen and her Son H. J. But in this he {lands alone without any Authority either ancient or modern, nay, againft the Au- thority of all the ancient Hiftorians from, whom he collects the Hiftory of this Rei^n, who conftantly call it the Reign of King Stephen. A ftrong Preemption , that this Author's notion of Government was no more known to the Writers of that Time, than M.aud\ Reign was. Why did he not alfo make it the Reign of King Edgar Atheling, and not of King William I . Why not the Reign of King Arthur , and not of King John . for it is certain King Charles I. was both King de jure and de faElo too : And therefore the Lord Chief Baron Bridgeman faith to Cook the Regicide, King Charles was owned by thefe Men and you as King) you charged him as King, and you fentenced him as King, you proceeded again ft him as King, and as yet King. * As fbr the Cafe of King Charles II. tho' he was not in Pofleflion, yet there was no King in Pofleflion againfthim^ and therefore he did , what "Edward IV. durft not , afla- me the Regal Title before he wasin Pof- fefiion, and dated the beginning of his Reign from his Fathers Death, and calPd the Year of his Reftoration, the I2th. Year of his Reign. Whereas Edward IV. did not afliime the Regal Title till the 4th. Day of March, on which he took Poffeffion of the Throne with the confer) t of the States , from which Day, and not from the Day of his Fathers Death, he began the Date of his Reign. Nay, Henry VI. himfelf who had before been almoft 3 9. Years in PofleG- (ion, doth not,upon his Readeptionjeckon the jo intermediate Years of Edward the IVth's * J/je Trial tftbe Regicides, . 146, ;**,.*,,<>, PofTeffion, as part of his own Reign - and therefore in the Year Books, the Date runs thus ^ Anno ab inchoatione Regni Henrici VI quadragejjimo nono y & Readeptionis Regia. foteftatis primo^ and not Anno Regni Henrici fexti quadragejjimo nono. As to the cafe of the Murderers ofEdw. II. who were put to Death for Treafon, tho* he was out of Pofleflion, Sir Edw. Coke fays, it appearetb by Briton to compass the >eath of the Father of the King is Treafon, and fo was the Law holden after that , for after Edward //. had difmiffed himfelf of his Kingly Office and Duty^ and his Son by the Same 0/'Edward ILwas crowned^ and King Regnant , thofe cur fed Caitifi^ Thomas Gourney and William Ocle, and ethers were attainted of high Treafon for mur- thering the Kings Fathei\v>ho had been King by the Name of Edward //, and had judgment to be drawn, hanged and quartered-^ the like judgment was given againjl Sir John Mi- trevers Knight, and others as being guilty of the Death, of the King's Uncle Edmund Earl of Kent, which at that time {being fo near of the Blood} was by fowe alfo holden he Treafon: But now this AB of the Edward ///. hath reftrained High Treafon in cafs of Death la notre Seignior le Roy la- J 4 [120 ] compagnie, & al eigne fitz & heire le Roy. Inftir. Pt. 4. c. i. p. 7. The Remarker proceeds to the famous Statute of the XL of Henry VII. chap. I. and {%ysj might fend Mr. H. and his Friends to a Book entitled , Animadverfwns upon the Modern Explanation of the II. of Henry VII. chap. I. or &c. and to the Cafe of Allegiance to a King in ojjejjion y * 6cc. The firft of thefe Books is little more than an Abridgment of the fecond, and I do not know any thing considerable in either, but what was, or might be anfwer'd from the View. Some of the moft conliderable Ar- guments in both were anfwer*d there, with- out mentioning the Books in which they were urged, which I thought the civileft way, and to give a true Account of the Englifli Conftitution fupported by Law and Hiftory, I took to be the fhorteir way of anfwering the reft. That, the King who is in Potfeffion of the Throne, and the full Administration of the Government and Laws, with the confent of the Mates and a Recognition of Parlia- ment, is the King for the time being, to whom this Statute declares Allegiance is due, and and fecures the Subjed: in the Difcharge of it, was the Ancient Explanation of this Sta- tute , and if the Arguments of this Author's Book had not been otherwife anfwer'd, the f itle alone which calls this a Modern Ex- planation (whilft his own is in truth the Modern} was fufficient to mew how much he was miftaken in the Controverfy. If this Explanation of the Statute obtained flnce the Revolution only, why did he not give us the Opinions of elder Lawyers for that which he would have pafs for the Ancient Explanation of it? Which had been the only way to have made good the Title of his Book. But indeed, it was not poffible for him to give us the Opinions of Lawyers, which they themfelves had never given. And to fhew this was not poffible for him, I'll briefly reprefent the Traditionary fenfe of the Lawyers upon this Queftion. And we need go no higher than the Reign in which this Statute was made, when the Judges, as I have obferved, upon Henry the Vllth's coming to the Throne, unanimoufly delivered it as a Maxim of the Law of En- gland^ that the Crown takes away all T)e- feEls and Stops in Blood, which Maxim being at common Law, as it were, the Coun- ter-part to this Statute , ihews, that this Statute Statute and the Explanation of it which he calls Modern, was the Law of England be- fore this Statute was made. In Henry VIII, Reign the Conference aboveraention'd, betwixt Sir Thomas Moor^ who had been Lord Chancellor , and Rich, who was then Sollicitor General, is a fufticient Evidence, thatthofe great Lawyers, howfoever they differ'd in another Point, yet agreed in this,that the Regnant King with a Parliamentary Authority, was entitled to the Allegiance of the Subject. In Queen May's Reign we have the Opi- nion of the Lord Chief Juflice Brook, who recommends his Abridgment otBagot's Cafe with a Nota (that contains much the fame Doftrine at common Law, which is de- clared and enafted in this Statute,) and no Lawyer in that, or any other Reign (ince, has fo fo much as put a Query upon it. In Queen Elizabeth's Reign, we have Sir Nicholas Bacon, her Lord Keeper, after- ting in Parliament the aforefaid Maxim, which, as I have faid, was at common Law the Counterpart to this Statute , and the Queen and Parliament proceeding agreeably to his judgment. In the Reign of King Ja?nes 9 we have that Lord Keeper's Son, the Lord Chancellor Bacon t who at the fame time that he gives this C this Explanation, gives the higheft Character of the Statute it (elf. In King Charles I. Reign, we have the Lord Chief Juftice Coke. And in King Charles. II. Reign, the Lord Keeper Bridgeman, and Lord Chief Juftice Hale^2\\ bearing Teftimony to the Authority of the Law, and to this Explanation of it- which hadthe Animadverter conlider'd, he certainly would never have call'd it the Mo- dern Explanation in the Title of his Pamph- let , and poflibly never have publifhed his Pamphlet at all. As to the Objection againft the Title of Henry VII. the Legiilator, which is infifted on by the Remarker, and the Animadverter on the Modern Explanation, if there needs any further Anfwer than what has been already given in the View, Mr. Collier will give it, and I hope, conclude the Animadver- ter at leaft by what he fays: * As to Hen- ry Tilths Birth, it maj be obferved, that be was descended from a younger Branch^ and that the Houfe of York flood foremoft in the Succe/Jion : But if bis Title ap- fears n queftionable upon this Score, the Quee by her Acquiescence feems to have (Ecckfiajlical Htfory in ff. FlLf. 705, tfroft dropt her Claim, and transferred ber Right to him, faith Mr. CWfcfr.Nay,we find that after her Death, Henry VII. quietly enjoyed the Crown according to the Acl: of Settlement made in the firft Year of his Reign. The Remarker here, as well as in other Places, fometimes repeats their Objections without adding any new Force to them, or difarming my Anfwers of their Force, and fometimes without fo much as taking any notice of my Anfwers , particularly that which has been efteemed the mod confide- rable Objection againft this Statute, the Duke of Northumberland's Cafe, which was fairly and fully anfwered in the View, p. 67, 68, 69, he has, without taking notice of any of my Anfwers, urged anew, * as if there had been nothing faid to it. And therefore, in/lead of reinforcing my former Anfwers to the Objections againft this Statute or this Explanation of it, I (hall only defire the Reader to give himfelf the Trouble to read them in the \\Tiew, and with them the Statute it felf, which I mail print at the end of this Defence, t becaufe I have met with fome, who have taken upon them * Remark: f. 78. |] View p. 6$, 66. &V, fr Appendix Numb, IV. to L 125] to judge of this Queftion, without ever feeing that Statute. The Remarker gives this Law hard Names, faying, it is a very ridiculous AEl> if dejigrfd to be perpetual, p. 79. and that the Conflitution, if Mr. Hs. Motion be allowed to be good, is not only the tno/i ridiculous, but rnoft unrighteous- and pernicious Conftitution in the World, p. j. Not to obferve here, what the Reader may obferve in feveral other places of this Writer, that he, as well as fome others, takes both Mr. Hs. Notion and the Law by halves , but in Anfwer to the hard Names that he gives this Law; I need only ihew, that the Lord Chancellor Bacon, who was one of the greater!. Men of his Age, and who lived under a Prince of .an undoubted Title, had a very different notion both of the Juftice and Wifdom of this Aft of Parliament. He fays, it WM. agreeable to reafon of State , and to good Conscience too, That the Spirit of this Law was pious and noble, juft and magna- nimous. But how great a Man foever my Lord Bacon was,he may not be of fo great Autho- rity with the Remarkerjs a Writer of his own fide : And fince he has recommended one of that Anthors's Trads to my Perufal, I mall recommend to him a later, and, I think, a better Piece that came from the fame Hand, where where the ILemarker will find a Character of this Statute, very different from that which himfelf has given of it. After this Author had taken -notice of the Severities of forae former Revolutions, which yet he fays, had been only againft Men who had been in Arms s and not the thoufandth part of them neither, much lefs of any others, and that by way of Attainders -, he adds, and even tbefe Severities were tbmtgbt by Henry VII. and bis Parliament fob arfo and cruel^ fo contrary to Reafon and Humanity, againft all Lrfw, Reafon and good Confcience^ as tbe AEiexprefs'd it, that ~tbey did alltbat Men and Law could do to put a final End to it y tbatfucb Proce'edings and Praftices migbt never more be feen in tbe Englifi Ration* Tbi& istbat famous Statute^ (n. Henry VII. c. I.) Tpbicb exprejty provides, tbatfrombence- fortbno manner of PerfonorPerfons tbat attend tbe King for tbe Time being in bis Wars^ or aB by Commijpon from bim y be in no wife atniiB, 6cc. This is certainty tbe utmojl Pro- vijion. .of Law 9 and^tis imfojfible, that any Jtronger can be made by Men. And wbatfo- ever otber Conjlruciions may be made of this Statute, 9 tis evident tbat thereby all violent Excfjffes of Revolutions are not only rejlrain- ed^ but perfe&ly uk in away^ tbat however it may bajtfen in tbe Eiel.l, and in tbe Heat "I , yet that no after Ravages fiould be committed^ and Men JJjouU. not be de- Jlroyed by Law who had efcaped the Sword. I need not reflect, how fuitable this Law is to the mutable Eflate of Mankind^ and the Viciffitudcs that conftantly accompany all hit- wane Affairs. * This Author wrote this Book with a Temper, which I could wiQi for their own fakes the Retnarker and Natural Bom Subject had imitated. C H A P. V. | A Defence of the Fifth Chapter of the View, wherein the Objection from the Ad of Recognition , I. Jac. /. is anfwer'd. IN the fifth Chapter of the View I an- fwer'd the Objection of the Virtual Re- peal of the n. Henry VII. Chap, i.by the I. Jac. Ch. i. And yet \htRemarker ^ who thinks this Statute i Henry VII. ch. i. was virtually if not actually repealed by the T. Jac. /. p. 79. fays, it. was null and void ii* itjelfl p. 87. But certainly if it was repealed, it was in Force before it was repealed , and therefore not null and void in it feif : Or if it was null ia -iticlffrom the time it was * The prefent State af, Jacobitifm. dfecond fjrt in Jn~ fiver to tbefirjl. f. n, 13, enacled enabled by King Henry VII. it could not be repealed above 10 Years after by his great Grandfon K. James I. But the pretended Nullity, and imaginary Repeal of this Law, as well as the real Contradiction betwixt thefe two, are all the Remarker's own. And yet the Retnarker is ready to yield all that is inferr'd from the 1 1 of Henry VII. if we bad, faith he, a Law wherein itiitas de- clared and ena tied, that fuch a one (he is fpeaking of a King that is not the next Heir) was to be King to all Intents and Purpofes.*ls not the nth of Henry VII. fuch a Law > And why then is this Law null in itfelf, any more than that Law would be ? And why will not this juftify the Subjeds,as he grants that would, when it is to all Intents and Purpofes fuch a Law, as that which theRemarker fuppofes would not be null, but would juftify the Subjects in recognizing fuch a King. The reft of his Remarks on this Chapter of the View are fo confufed perplexed and inconfiftent, that they want no other Confutation. But becaufe he lays a great ftrefs upon one of them , it (hall be parti- cularly confider'd. To flew faith he, that * Remarks]?- ( King James 7. was Rightful Heir, the AB of Recognition does not fay, that he was Right- fully defended of Henry TIL but #/' Margaret (mark that) who was rightfully defcended from Elizabeth Daughter of Eel ward IV. * The Remarker here ufes too great a Liberty in deducing King James's Defcent, leaving out fome Words, and putting in others, which are not in the Aft : For the Ad doth exprefly derive his Defcent from K. Hen. VII. his Grandfather (tho* he fays it doth not) as well as from Queen Elizabeth his Grand- mother - 5 and doth not affirm, ("as he fays it doth) that the Lady Margaret was any more rightfully defcended from Queen Eli- zabeth, thanfrom King Henry VII. This Ad of. Recognition takes notice of the Happinefs of this Kingdom firft in the Union of the Two Houfes of Tork, and Lancafter, and then in the Union of the Two Kingdoms oi England, and Scotland, in the Kings Perfon, f who, as it follows in the Ad, is lineally, and lawfully defcended, of the Body of tl moft Excellent Lady Margaret Eldefl Daughter of the moft renowned King Henry Vll. (let th'e Remarker mark this) and the High and * Rem. f, 8z, f Ses tjie <& f Recognition i Jac, c. r. K Ko&le Nolle Princefs Queen Elizabeth his Wife, -Eldeft Daughter of King Edward JT. the faid 'Lady Margaret being Eldeft Sifter of King Henry VIII. Father of the High and Mighty frincefs of famous Memory, Elizabeth late Queen 0/ England. Indeed, according to the Remarked Hypothecs, King James I. De- fcent fhou'd have been derived by the Lady Margaret, only from Queen Elizabeth El- deft Daughter of King Edward IV. by her Hufband Henry ^Earl of Richmond , and the Acl fhould not have faid, that King James was Rightfully defcended of the Lady Mar- firet Eldeft Daughter of the moft renowned ing Henry VII. &c. And therefore the Re- marker agreeably to his Hypothefis, ventures to affirm that the Ad: doth not fay fo, where- as we fee the Act doth as much fay that he was Rightfully defcended from K. Henry VII. as from Qiieen Elizabeth that King's Wife, lince it exprefly affirms that he was Rightfully defcended of the Body of the moft Excellent Lady Margaret, Eldeft Daughte^ of the moft renowned ^King Henry TIL and the High and Noble Princefs Queen Elizabeth his Wife. And the 'Remarker may find in Lethington the Scotch Secretary's Letter to Sir William Cecil, that the Houfe of Scotland infifted on their Chum to the Crown of England, as being C *1* 1 being the Eldeft remaining I/Tue of King Henry VII. * I faid,in Conclufion, againft this imaginary Repeal of the n. of Henry VII. by the i of James I. C. i. that the greateft Lawyers in the Kingdom have declared fince that^# of Recognition, that Allegiance is due to the King in Poffeffion, and have fupported their Opinions by the 1 1. of Henry VII. and there- fore did not believe it RepeaPd by the i. of James I. And have not as good Lawyers de- clared the contrary . great matter on their Side. * Thefe PaiTages would give an impartial Reader a Sufpicion, that, when Men are fo much againft the Lawyers and the Laws, they are a little Gonfcious to themfelves, that the Lawyers and the Laws are againft them ^ and that, whilft they are putting in their Exceptions to the Antient Cuftoms of the Realm, to the Year Books, to the Opinions of Lawyers , to the Refolu- tions of Judges, and to Aclsof Parliament, they would leave us no other way to Learn what is Law, but from their Hy- pothefis. I need add nothing, to what is faid in the View, concerning the Oaths :, for (ince the Oaths are appointed by Law, and muft there- fore be interpreted according to Law, the Points in Law being once EftabliuYd, the Lawfulnefs of taking the Oaths follows as a Conclufion from it's Premifle& Letter f. 90. K 4 CHAP. CHAP. VII. A Defence of the Seventh Chapter of the View, that our Laws, in this Point, are not contrary to the Holy Scriptures, and the Detinue of our Church, but rather agreeable to both THE Law-point, being thus Eftablifhed, was, I faid, a fufficient Direction for Conference in matters of Civil Obedience, fo long as there was nothing in it contrary to the Law of God. Here then the Remarker, and Natural Born SubjeEl mo x uld h^ve tried their Strength, and fhewn that our Laws, in this Point, are contrary to God's Laws. This was the Place to have proved, what one of them does plainly, and I think both of them do fuppofe,that there is a certain Form of Civil Government and of Succefliontoit, of Divine Inflitution,and if they had done this, they had, I confefs, effectually anfwered the View -, fince no Human Laws can Prefcribeagainfta Divine Inftitution. . In the meantime* whilft they only beg the Queftion, which they have not fo much as attempted to prove here, arid by what has been attempted elfewhere, I am fatisfied, they never can prove, the Poiition of the View does ftand, and is like to ftand good 9 good, that the Conftitution, and our Obedi- ence according to it, is fufticiently vindica- ted, if there is nothing in it contrary"to the Law of God: for then the Laws of the Kingdom (which the Divine Law Commands us to Obey,) do, as I faid, bind our Confciences as Subjects -, and we are not only warranted, but obliged to pay our Obedience^ as the Law direfts. This was fufficient for my purpofe, that our Conftitution, as I reprefented it, was not contrary to God's Law. However, I ventu- red a ftep farther, that our Laws, by re- quiring Obedience to the King in Pofleffion, are agreeable to the Holy Scriptures, accor- ding to our Saviours Refolution of the Law- fuinefs of Subjection to the Roman Em- peror Tiber iits , becaufe he was in Pofieffion of the Government. This'thefe Authors grant was our SavioursRefolution,but they are in the mean time, for giving other Reafons for the Subjection of the Jews to the Romans, i. e. they are for giving Reafons, which our Saviour did not give, and which therefore I need not confider -, fince our Lord did not here determine the ' Lawfulnefs of Subjection to the Roman Emperor, for any of thofe Rea- fons which they fuppoie, but for this one Reafon which he gave, (as they themfelves can- C 1383 cannot deny,) namely, that he was in Pof- feflion of the Government. I cannot but, by the way, take notice,that this Command of our Bleffed Saviour to the Jews, to be Subjeft to the Roman Monarchy, which was Eledive, is an Invincible Argu- ment againft thofe, who maintain, that which Iscall'd, the Patriarchal Scheme of Govern- ment,to be of Divine Inftitution,and obligatory to all Mankind : For had it been fo, our Sa- viour without doubt, when die Queftion was put to him about the Roman Government, and the Lawfulnefs of Submiflion to it, would have recalPd his Hearers to the Divine Original Inftitution, and told them, that from ibe beginning it was notfo^ that the Go- vernment under which they lived, was a De- viation from the Divine Inftitution : As when the Cafe of Divorce was put to him, notwith- ftanding the general Praftice both of Jews and Gentiles, He reduced Mankind from the Devi- ation, to the Divine Original Inftitution of Marriage. But fo far was our BlefTed Saviour from delivering any fuch DocTrine, that He Commands Subjection to the Roman Empe- ror, and acknowledges his Authority was from God, St. John 19. II. I faid, our Church had not given her Judg- ment by way of an Exprefs decilionof the Queftion, but that the Paflage I cited from our C 139 ] our Homilies, favour'd our Side of the Queftion, and if the Remarker, and Na- tural Born Subject are not Confcious it does fo, why doth the former throw in, not over decently, fo many Abatements to the Au- thority of the * Homilies , and the latter fay the Compilers of the Homilies might think Eleanor -was Dead .& ciple, ciple, and try what Profelytes 'he can make to it. I took notice, that feme had made an ill ufe of this Argument, to juftify the Refi- ftance of the Supreme Magiftrate, when he does not, as they think, purfue the publick Good of the Community. But this is to abufe the Principle, and draw a falfe Confe- qyence from it -, and mufl there^re 'the Na- tural Born SubjeEl draw another falfe Con- fequence, and deny the Principle it felf to be True ? Efpecially when he owns at the fame Time, that, / have guarded again ft^ this falfe Confequence, * he mould have faid, I have fhewn f that the Laws, which require Sub- miflion, have guarded againft it, by forbid- ding Refiftance , and that the very Reafon of Government has guarded againft it:, for if there is not a Laft Refort, from which there is no Appeal,, and againft which\ there muft be no Refiftance, it is not Government, but Anarchy. * Letter f. 103. t ^ jf 99 I ^- CHAP. < '43) CHAP. IX. A Defence of the Tenth Chapter dfthe View, that our Laws in this Point are agreeable to the Practice of all Mankind, particularly ofG&ds own People , the Jews, and the Cbriftlans, of the earlieft Ages. I Gave an Account of the behavior of the Jews, in their Subje&ion to the Midia- nites, Moabites, the Kings of Egypt, and after that fucceffively to the Babylonijh^ Perfian, Grecian, and Roman Empires. To which the Remarker fays, the.MidianitiJb^ and Moabitifo Princes, Ruled over them as Conquerors, not as Ufurpers. * The Natural Born Subject fays, your loft Chapter beginning at Page 100. tells us to Page 105. That the Jews fubmitted when they were Conquered, -p (after I had proved it again Lawful for the Jews to fubmit to Princes, whom it was not Lawful for them to fet up) he fays, but what was this Cafe, it was only that of Con- queft, when Strangers got the Rule over the Jews. || So that,after all that has been faid on that Side, againft the Title of Conqueft, thefe to, ^. 99, t tetter $ 106. U tetter f< 97- Two C 144 P Two Authors fall in with it, and juflify Submiffion on that Score. But what does the Natural Born SubjeEl mean, by faying, though the Jews conftantly jitbtnitted, they as conftantly Revolted, when- ever they could get the opportunity, ' as you may fee in the Hiftory of the Judges, and of the Maccabees. * Had he truly reprefented their Cafe, he would gain little by it ^ for if their Submiffion was juftifyable, their Re- volt was Hill inexcufable* But their Cafe is very falfely reprefented -, for the Jews did not Revolt under their greateft OpprefTions, from thofe Strangers who got the Rule over them, ,but Liv'd Subject to them, till upon their Cry unto God, he particularly rais'd up and appointed them Deliverers, to whom he gave Authority to Refcue them, as is evi- dent from the Hiftory of the Judges, to which he appeals. Thus Ehud f was par- ticularly Authorised by God, to deliver them from the Moabites -, and Gideon || from the Midiamtes, which were the Two Inftances I gave from the Book of Judges. In Bifhop Overall's Convocation Book, it is faid, the Ifraelites had been Eighteen Tears in Sub- jeftion t to the Moabites, as they had been a * Letter p. 97. j- Judges 3, 15. || Judges <5. ii, iz, 13,14, &c. , little before Eight Tears to the Aramites. 'They knew that it was not Larvfttlfor them of themfelves, and by their own Authority, to take Arms againft the Kings, whofe Sub- 'Jeffs they were, though indeed they were Tyrants: And therefore they cried unto the Lord for Succor. Who,in Companion of their Servitude and Miferifs, appointed Othoniei to deliver them from the Aramites -, and af- terwards Ahud from the Moabites. In the. Choice of which Two Judges it is to be ob~ ferv'd, that the Scriptures do tell us that God raifed them up, (and therefore it is mofi certain he did fo,} arid alfo that in fuch rai- fmg of them to their Places, he made theni Saviours to his People, (as the Scriptures fpeak) giving them thereby Authority to Save and Redeem the Israelites, from the Tyrants that opprejfed them ^ without both which Pre- rogatives, it had been altogether Unlawful for them to have done as they did. * This was evident enough from thofe Places in the judges, which I referr'd to, but the Natural Born Subject having, as I have good reafon to believe, a high Efteem for the Convoca- tion-Book: I thought a Citation from i might more Effed:dally convince him, of the Senfc 51. $z, , L of L 146 3 of thofe Places, and of his Error In Point of Fad, that thej^mr conflantly Revolted from the Strangers that got the Rule over them, when they could get an Opportunity -, and in Point of Right, that they might Lawfully do fo , for if hie did not think fo, he had no reafon to mention their .Revolt at all. What he referrs to in the Maccabees, is, I fuppofe, the Revolt from Antiochus the Great, but if he looks into the afprefaid Con- vocation-Book^ * he'll find a very different Account of that matter, from what is com- monly given of it -, and fuch an Account, as will do him no Service , but if he'll not be concluded by That,the Common Account, he knows, is as little to his Purpofe. In Anftver to my Argument, that it was Lawful for the Jews to Submit to a Stranger, though it was not Lawful for them to fet a Stranger to Rule over them, as appeared from the Law, Deut. 17. 15. The Remarker fays, /Jilt if Mr. VI. had Read on, he would have found, that they .were to fet over them him, whom the Lord their God fhould Choofe* They had nothing to do to fet up^ or pull down Kings, f Nor did I fay they had, and what he fays, Jbonld have been added, is fo far C 147 ] far from taking off the force of my Argument, that it adds to the force of it. For if they might not in any Wife fet a Stranger, i. e. a Heathen King over them, but one from among their Brethren, and that One whom the Lord their God fbould choofe , and yet notwith- ftanding this, they might live in fubjection, to Str anger s, to Heathen Princes, who were not their Brethren, and whom the Lord their God did not choofe , this undenyably proves, what is afferted, that it. was lawful to fubmit to Princes, whom it was not law- ful to fet up. The Remarker goes on, hit if Gad for their Wickedness fet a Stranger over them y they were bound to fubmit to him, becaufe it was his doing, as it was in fitting the Babylonians, Grecians, Romans to rule~ over them, to chaftife them for their Idolatry and Rebellion againfl him. * But how did God fet the Romans, Grecians, &c* to rule over the Jews > Not by an exprefs Nomination as he did Saul, David, &c. but by his Pro- vidence governing the Events of War. So indeed, and no otherwife, it was G id's do- ing. And was. this a fufficient reafon for the Submiflion of the Jews ? Yes, the Re- * Ibid, L 2 marker C 148 3 marker &ys, they were bound to Submit to them, becaufe it was God*s doing. And what is this more or lefs, than to refolve the Rea- fon of Submiffion into Providence, and to fet up a Providential Title > ,But this was when God fet Princes over the Jews for their Wickednefs, toChaftife them for their Idola- try, and their Rebellion againfl him. And had God thus by his Providence, fet Princes over the Jews^ to Refcue them from Idola- try, or to fecure them from the danger of falling into it, would it not have been equally God's doing > And is not this the fame Reafon in G.eneral,which the Remarker gives, for their Submiffion t And as good a Rea- fon in particular, whdn it is for their Safety, as when it is for their Chaftifement ? Both thefe Writers have particularly enumerated the feveral Anfwers that were made to )r< Sherlock's Cafe of Allegiance , arid have loudly cali'd upon me for a Reply to them, though for what Reafon I know not, unlefs it be,becaufe I never medled with the Argu- ment of Providence. How far, and in what manner the Divine Providence is concerned in Revolutions of Government, or how fair it will,, or will not juftify Subjedion, after the Revolution is paifed, and the New Go- vernment Eftablifhed, which was the great debate betwixt the Dodor, and his Anfwe- fers. C rers, and which, as my Defign did not oblige me, I never entered upon, but fet the Con- troverfy entirely upon a New Foot, as I took Notice in the View. * If they ftill think a Keply is necefTary to thofe Anfwers, which were made to the Cafe of Allegiance to So- veraign Powers, the Remarker, who has here taken up that Hypothefis, is the only Perfon, that I know, who is obliged to give it. I proceeded to fhew, that the Behavior of the Primitive Chriftians, was agreeable to that of the Jews. To all which the Re- marker only fays, that Mr. H. may Confnlt Bifiop Uiher's Power of the Prince, Dr. Hick's Jovian, Dr. Sherlock's Cafe of Reft fiance, Dr. Digg's Unlarpfulnefs of SnbjeBs taking Arms, f And when the Remarker Con fu Its them again, I believe he'll only find, that they have given numerous Exemples of -the Non-refiftance of the Primitive Chri- ftians to the Emperors, and Kings, under which they Lived, but nqt one Example of Kon-fubjection to them, on any pretence of a defect in their Titles. The Natural Born SiibjeB, feems to think it fome Advantage to his Caufe, that I fay I, 3 in C 150 1 in the Three firfl Centuries, there is no other In fiances of DifpoiTefs'd Emperors clai- ming; againft Rivals, but that of the Two Maximtm. Bur fince, in this Inflance, I have proved a general Submiflion to the Emperors in Pof- fefiion, and he has not pretended to prove theChriflians were not comprehended in that general Submiilion. Nay iince Julius Ca- fitolinus, who Writes the Hiflory of the Two MaxMni; excepts only Capelianus a Governor in Afr'tck, and a few * Cities, as adhering to thefe difboflefTed Emperors, can we believe, if the Chriflians had done the . fame, he would .not much rather have excepted them, who at that Time, and be- fore that Tim,e, made a great part of the Em- pire, fill-d their Cities, their Senate, their Armies, and all Places, as Tertullian fays, f- but their Temples > And therefore this,tho s the only Inflance in this Period, is a very confiderable one. It is Qbfervable that the Author of Jovian, is entirely on the Side of the Emperors in PofTeffion. After he hath related hot? the Army in Africk, ufpn hearing || of the barba- Paucse civitates fidem hofti publico fervaverunt. itolini Maximini Duo. r f Apologet. c. 37, , j| Scf Jovian f. 34. 3 fr rous A CIV* VIA Julii Capi t Apolo C.'si ] rous Pride and Cruelty of the Emperor Max- iminus, brought the Purple to the Proconfitl Gordianus and made him Emperor, and how the Senate at Rome out of hatred to Maxi- minus, Confirm' d the, Choice of the African Souldiers, and declared Gordianus, and his Son Augufli, and denounced Maximinus, and his Son, Enemies to the Empire, he adds, at the fame time CapeJianus in Africk, Rebels againft Gordian, that is, he Rebelled when he took up Arms againft the Emperor in Pofleffion, on behalf of the DifpoflefsM Emperor Maximinus, under whomCapeli- anus had been made Governor of the Mauritania's. For this is what Capelianus did, as is evident from * Capitolim#, and what the Author of Jovian here calls Rebel- lion. In the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Centu- ries, I faid, we had feveral Inftances of Em- perors DlfpolFefs'd, and of the Chriftians becoming Subjects to New'Emperors, whilft the Difpofl'efs'd Emperors were Alive , as in * Sed Gordianus in Africa primum a Capitolino quodam agitari caepit, cui Mauros icgenti fucceflbrem dederat. Tune Capelianus Viftor pro Maximijto, omnes Gordiatii partium, motu partium in ^/rifi7,interemir, firV. Julii Cct- Maximinj duo, L 4 'the ' . C the Cafe of Zjcinius, and Conflantine in the Fourth ' of i??ft0,and Bafilifius in the Fifth -, and of Jujlinian, and Vitiges in the Sixth Century. What doth the "Natural Born Subjeft mean, t>y faving, that thefe Difpofoffd Emperors^ who bad no Right but Pdfiejjion, loft their Right with their Pojfejfion, * when they had the fame Right that any of their Pre- deceflbrs had, or SucceiTors either > Or, by fayin? that thefe Cafes are Forreign to an Hereditary Monarchy, f when we are not fpeaking of the Heirs or Sons of Empe- rors, but of DifpofTefs'd Emperors themfelves > And whefl lie cannot fay, if the Empire had been Hereditary, that their Heirs would have had better Pretenfions after their Fathers Death.s, than thefe DifpoiTefs'd Emperors, thbygli Elective only, had during their Lives. The Remarker alfo may Obferve, as a fur- ther Anfwer to what he has' advanced p. 87. that here are In (lances of Emperors that did not fubmit, but claimed and made War after their "DifpolTeffion, which he might have obferved alfo in feveral other Inftances that I gave, where the Jews notwithftanding * Letter $,106, be- E '53 ] became Subjefts to the Princes in Pof- feffion. I faid this had been the Praftice of all Mankind, as well as of the Jews and Chn- ftians, upon Revolutions to fubmit to New Governments after they were Eftablim'd. The'Remarker faith, tf be jhould follow me in Revolutions that no way Concern' 'us , he is Confident he flwuld find them much more favourable to his Point, than mine, * But he mud firft follow me in thofe Revolutions, before he can have any Grounds for this Confidence, and when he fhall d"o fo, and take a furvey of the Behaviour of all the Na- tions of the World, upon Revolutions both in former and later Ages, he'll fee Reafon to abate of his Confidence, and confefs his Mi- ftake. He'll find that upon thefe Events, the great Queftion has been, not, whether they fhall Submit or no > But whether they mail obtain good Terms upon their Sub- miflion, and preferve their Antient Immuni- ties and Privileges, under their New Matters? Let Subjeds preferve an Inviolatible Fidelity to their Prince, and do their utmoft to pre- ferve him in his Throne, and then, if after they haye run the greateft hazards for him, # Remarker f. 88. he L '54 J he happens to be Difpoffefs'd, neither their Prince, the World, nor their own Confci^ ences can Reproach them, if they Endeavor to preferve the Community and themfelves. And if fome will be Singujar in their Behavior, and inftead of calmly considering the Nature and Ends of Government, and the Viciffi- tudes, to which it ever hath, and from the Lufts and Paflions of Mcn,ever will be expo- fed,will frame Schemes of Government with- out Authority, either from Scripture, or the Laws of their Country, that are fo far from promoting the great Ends of Government, that they would render That, which was De- iign'd for the Eafe, Security, and Welfare of Mankind, to be a Snare, a Rack, and often- times Ruine to them, under thofe Vicifli- tudes which fo frequently happen. If Men I fay, will frame fuch Schemes, they may I think be modeftly contented to Practice upon them themfelves, and not rafhly to Cenfure (as thefe Two Authors do) all who differ from them, which is almoft all Man- kind, C H A P, [ us 1 C H A P. X. Reflections on fome of the Errors of the Nn- tural Born Subject, and on bis Oppojition to the Remarkerz/? fome Points. AS thefe" Two Authors Arguments and Errors are generally the fame: So what has been faid to the one, is commonly a Reply to the other, as well as to what is Material in the Exiraft ofPrins Plea : Yet becaufe I have taken more Notice of 'the Re- warkerjhxn of the N. B. SubjettJ. ihall beftow fome Considerations upon him in Particular. To complain of his Mifreprefentations, or to take Notice of all his Miftakes in Hiftory, would be almoft endlefs : I fhail therefore only Animadvert on fome of his Miftakes, about the Thirteen Kings, from the Conqueft to Henry VIII. who I faid came to the Throne without Hereditary Titles. And to make me miftaken in the Number, he takes it Exclufrvely- of William I. and Henry VII. the fir ft and laft King in that Period. Whereas it is plain, I included them, in this Number, otherwife there could not be Thirteen, who came to the Throne with- out, and Six, with Hereditary Titles, as I affirmed there did in that Period : A lefs hafty Writer would have given himfelf the Leiiure to have counted Nineteen, rather than than have made a Miftake, by Endeavouring to Charge his Adverfary with one. He therefore begins with William II. and fays. But Robert the EUeft Son of the Conque- ror'jontended vyith his Brother William Z/./0r England, and at la/I came to a Compromise with hitrt, to have it after his Death. * And . is it ever the lefs True, that William II. came to the Throne without an Hereditary Title, becaufe there was a Compromife after- wards -, which Com prom ife this Author en- tirely Miftakes, when he fays that by it, Robert was to have the Crown after William^ Death : For by the Com prom ife William** own Son's, were to have it after his Death ^ only in Cafe he mould leave no Son, Robert was to fucceed him in the Kingdom of "En- gland ^ as William was to Succeed Robert in 'the Dukedom otNormatufy, in.Cafe lie mould Dye without a Son. Which is Evident from the Terms of the Coinpromife, as it is tranf- mitted to us by the Arch-deacon of Hunting- ton> f Roger de Hoveden, || and Hemingford. * * Letter Page 36. t Rex fecit concordiam cum fratrefuo. Statuerunt, fiquis eonim moreretur prior alrero fine Filid, quod alter fieret hasres illius, Hen. Huntindon Hift. L. VIl.p. zi;. It Inter fe conftituerunt ut fi Comes (Sc. Rolertiti) abfque Filio legali matrimonio genito moreretur, hseres ejus fieret Rex (Sc. JFillielmus junior) firailique modo fi Regi conti- Juiffet mori, haeres illius fieret Comes. Rogeri de Hove'd^n Annal, Pars.Lf. 265. * Hemingford ad Aiu 1090. The C'57 ) The Natural Born SubjeEl goes on, be Made the like Compromife "with his Brother Henry /. who Marrfd the Heirefs of the Saxon Time, Edgar Atheling having before fubmitted. * Not the like Compromife, as he has raifreprefented it, . btit the like Com- promife as I have, related it, from our An* cient Hiftorians : For by the Terms of it, Robert was not to Succeed Henry, as the Natural Born SubjeQ Imagines, but his own Sons : But if he mould Dye without a Son^ then Robert was to Succeed' him in England^ as he, in the like Cafe, was to Succeed Robert in Normandy :, as the Compromife is given us in the Annals of Wavcrley - f and by Henry of Huntingdon. \\ In thefe Three Lines he commits another great Miflake, when he fays Henry I. Mar- ried the Heirefs of the Saxon Line. He Married indeed Maud the Daughter of Mar- garet Queen of Scotland , Sifter to Edgar Atheling. But for Maud's being the Heirefs * Letter Ibid. f Quod Conful unoquoque Anno tria mille, marcas argenti ab A-nglia haberet, & qui diutius viveret force Jiares alterius, ft alter fine refto hserede morererur. Aii- nal Traver. tool. (t Quod Robertas unoquoque Anno tria mille, marcaruia argenti habere. ab Ang\\a, 8c qui diutius viveret, hsres alterius effet fi' alter abfque FiHo naoreretur, af bf the Saxon Line, I believe he has no better than Almanack Authority r , for in the Chrono- logical Tables of our Kings in fome Almanacks , I have feen this Remark upon Henry I. Mar- riage, The Saxon Line rejlored. But had the Natural Born SubjeB known, as he eafily might, that Maud * had Four Brothers, Ed- gar, Alexander, David, and Edward, (of f- whom Edgar, Alexander^ and David were fuccefiively Kings of Scotland, and that the Race of the Scotifh J&ngs were defcended from f David,) he would never have made Maud an Heirefs. For thq* he Strains his Hy- pothefis, I think,to make a Daughter an Heir to a Crown, yet he will I doubt not Confefs his Miftake, in making Maud the Heirefs of the Saxon Line, now he knows me had Four Brothers* Here I might ask this Author (fince he fometimes doth not allow Gefilon, to transfer the Right to a Crown,) when the Right to the Englim Crown, was Extingui- Ihed in the Heirs of the Saxon Line, of the Houfe of Scotland* And when our Kings of * Henricus majores natu JngliACcngregzvitLondonitx, & Regis 'Scotorum Malcolmi & Margaret e Reginse, Filiam Matildem Nomine, fororem etiam Regum, Edgan, Aiex- andri. & David in cooiugem accepit. Roger de Hotedex. Page 168. *. z?o. a. &?. f Smon of Durham Names Six Brothers of Maud. Inter Decem Seriptores, $< 102, England C 159 ) bngland upon his Principles commenced Rightful ? Or whether ever before King James VI. came to the Crown of England > He proceeds. An d Stephen the tlfurper made the like Compromife v>itb Maud the Emprefs, Heirefs of Henry L and with her Son Henry 77. who accordingly did Succeed him. * Now this which he calls a Like, was a different Compromife from the Two former : For by the Terms of k, Henry I[ was immediately to Succeed upon the Death of Stephen. It is another Miftake to fay that Stephen made a Compromife with Maud : For he made the Compromife only with her Son Henry, and we cannot find that his Mother had any mare in it. The Compromife it felf is preferved in the Tower, and is Printed by Mr. Rymer. f In which there is no mention of any Refig- nation or Ceffion of Maud, nor is there any Plenipotentiary or Agent for her,or her Hut band, the Duke 'of Anjoit^ amongft the Names of thofe that Sign'd that Agreement. Hoxv much foever Dr. Brady, in his Anfwer to the late ve*y Learned Bifhop of Wore eft er, was concerned to prove Maud's Ceffion, being not able to produce any Teftimony of it, * Lettsr Ibid. f Cgnventignes Faedera, Vol. i./. i?. from from any of our Hiftorians,. he is contented only to fuppofe it as probable. * And there- fore t Mmid having never Refign'd that we "know of, either before, or after the Com- proraife, and being Alive, when her Son Henr^ came* to, the Throne, (and living to the Fourteenth Year of his Reign,) f he could not be faid to Afcend it as the next Heir. I might laftly take Notice, that this Author as. well as the Remarker, areMiftaken in the Terms of the Agrepment betwixt Stephen, and Henry II. as they ,may them- felves be convinced by the aforefaid Char- ter- of || Agreement, and {he Account that is given of it by Henry of Huntington, * and Roger de Hove den. f * An Inquiry into the Remarkable Inflames of Hijlory and Parliament Records, p. 2,7. z8. { Anrto 1 4 Henrici Regis bbiit, Matildis Imperatrix IVlater Ljxis. Annal. JSTater, 1167.. || Sciatis quod Jigo Rex StefhanWi Hcnricwn ducem Nor- mania poft me Succefforein Regni Angliae, & Haredem eum jure HoEieditario conftitui, & lie ei &'Haeredibus fuis, Angha, donavi & Confinnavi , Conventiones, . .. * Ipfum (ffenricum Sc?) fiquidem Rex in Fittlitn fufce- pit adopiivum, & haereriem regni Conftituit. Hen. Hun- tmdc?i, f. ^58. } Pax Angk& reddita eft, pacificatis ad iirvicem Rege Stephana, Sc Hennco duce mormannie, (|Uem Rex Stefbanus adoptavit libi in t ilium & Conitituit haeredem & Suc- celioreni Regni. Hoveden, f. z8i. Anhuf C i ] Arthur Duke of Britanny, faith the Natu- ral Born Sub je Ely did Homage to his Uncle King John, and foon after Dyed. But did not Eleanor Survive her Brother, and King John too, and Live a clofe Prifoner to the Day of her Death) Which was in the Twenty Fifth Year of King Henry III. as we are af- fured by Matthew Paris , * a Witnefs beyond exception : fo that Henry III. as well as Hen- ry II. (of whom only there could be any doubt of all thefe Thirteen Kings,) notwith- ftanding what this Author Imagines, did not come to the Throne as the next Heirs. Some may fufpecl: that I have ranfackt the Natural Born Subjeffs Book, for .thefe Mi- ftakes, to prefent them here at one View ^ but if they Pleafe to turn to the latter End of the Thirty Sixth, and the beginning of the Thirty Seventh Page, they'll find them altogether, in the Order I have cited them, within the Compafs of Twenty Two Lines : and I cannot but Obferve, that whilft he is fo much in the Dark, that he Stumbles al- jnoft at every Step he takes, he is yet trium- phing over my imaginary Miftakes about * Et Circa idem tempus Obiit Alk-nora, Filia Galftidi Comitis Britanni*, in Claufura diuturni carceris fub arcta Cuftgdia retervata, Anno 1^1. Matthew Parit, f. $74. M thefe thefe Thirteen Kings, and with a more than ordinary Air of Allurance fays, wok the * Thirteen then that Mr. Higden Speaks of] a Mi flake of the Printer for Three , that it ftould have been ? And I -will take even thefe Three from him in the next Page, and leave bis Sitmm Total a N/wgbt. But to purfue him no farther in his Errors on this Head, and to Corred them at once, I'll fet before the Reader a Table of thefe Thirteen Kings, in one Column, and of the Lineal Heirs, in another. * Letter f. 58. The A TABLE Shewing, i/?. The Time ily. when thefe The Lineal Heirs that were 1 3 Kings Alive at that Time, and when came to the they Dyed. Throne, William I. Anno 1066. Brompton William II. Anno 1088. Brompton Atheling Heir of the Line , furvived both William I, and JFi//w II. and, as is Evident from the Annals of Waverley, was Alive in the 6 Year of H. I. His Sifter Afcwg*- *f, who Married the King of Scotland, befides her Daughter Maud Married to K. H. I. had 4 Sons, of which 3 were Succef- fively Kings of Scotland, Edgar, Alexander, and David, from whom defcended the Race of the Kings of the Scot s. Hove den. ., . T _. MakolmlV, Robert Duke of "Normandy the El- deft Son of Wm. I. who after a Com- promifewithJT.il. M 2 William Alexan. II. . III. and Henry I. Anno noc. Brompton [ 1*4 1 and another with Hen. I. was upon a New Breach, and War, brought a Prifoner into En- gland, where he Dyed, 1134. being the 34?^. Year of his Brother H. I. Reign. An n.JKaver. Prior Hagufttald. John Baliol Rob. Bruce Dav. Bruce Ro. Stuart, Sir George Mackenfey. Stephen 4nno 1135. W. Malmfb. Henry II. Anno 1155. Brompton John Atfnb 1199. Mat. Paris Henry III, Anno 1216. Mat. Paris Maud the Emprefs,Daughter of H. 1. who was not only before Stephen, but alfo before her own Son Hen. II. in the Line, Dyed in the Year 1167. which was the 1 qtb. Year of Hen. II. Reign. Annals of Waverley. Arthur the Son of Geoffery. Joh. Elder Brother Dyed, 1 203. the ^th. Year of John's Reign, Mat. Paris. But his Sifter Elea- nor Dyed not till the Year 1 241. 'which was the 2 5. Year of H. III. Matthew Paris. Edward II. his Father was Jan. 1326. Murdered the September fol- Henry de lowing, Circa, feflum beati Jynvghton Math si. Knyghton "\ Richard 3 Richard II. Dyed the Febru- ary following. ' Stow Edmund Mortimer Earl of March, defcended from Lionel Duke of Clarence, the %d. Son of Hen. III. Dyed in 142 5. being the ^d. Year, of Henry VI. Dugdale's Baronage Richard D. of Tbr&, the Son of ^ww I added that the generality of the Nation were in Expectation, that a Prince of the Tribe otjudah, would fhortly break the Roman Yoak, and Reftore the Kingdom to Ifrael. Upon which the 2* jB. SubjeB fays. And that Prince did come, and wa* then among them. And he gave it tip too, and commanded them to Submit to Tiberius, though he call'd himfelf the Son of David. * After our Blefled Saviour had fo exprefly Difclaimed a Temporal Kingdom,and f fo fully declared the Nature of his Kingdom, I won- der how this Author could fall into this Err ror, that Chrift had a Temporal Kingdom^ which he gave up, and Commanded the Jews to Submit to Tiberius. Chrift,as God, is King of Kings, and Lord of all Creatures, but I am fure the Natural Born Sub\eEi will not fay, that he gave up this Eternal Kingdom. Chrift,as Man, has a Spiritual Kingdom, but * Letter f. 98* t Mat ^o**** &c. Jo. 18. 36. 1 neither neither will this Author fay that he gave up this Kingdom, which he doth, and will re- tain, till the End cometh, when he flail have delivered it up to God even the Father. I Cor. 1 5. But Chrift,asMan,had no Temporal King- dom, and utterly Difclaimed any j fo that the Temporal Kingdom, which the Natural Born Subjeft fays he gave up, he never had. And therefore at that Time, when he Com- manded them to Submit to Tiberius, or at any other Time, He could not give up a Kingdom, which he never had. This Error is feverely cenfured in Bifhop Overalls Convocation Book. 'Tis many ways very plain and evident that the Jews did ex- pound all tho/e Places of the Prophets, which do notably fet forth the Spiritual King- dom of our Saviour Chrift, to be meant cfa Temporal Kingdom, which he fhould erecl up- on Earth. -There are fame fo much addiEled in thefe Days unto the faid erroneous Opinion of the Jews, as for the Advancement of the Glory of the Bifyop of Rome , they will needs have Chrift to have been here upon Earth a Temporal Monarch. Infbmiich as fome of them fay in effeEl that neither Augnftus Casfar nor Tiberius his SucceJJor were lawful Emperors from the time of Chrifts Birth, for above the Space of Thirty Tears, until our Saviour had required the Jews to pay Tribute to Cxfar. M 4 But But thofe are Men not to be feared, for to fay the Truth of them, they are all in effeEl either grofs and unlearned Canonifts or elfe lut new up fart Nerians, and with great Affinity with the Canonifts ^ who meaning as it feemeth to oittftrip the Jefuits, do labour as much to make the Pope a Temporal Mo- narch^ as the Jefuits have done for his pre- tended fpiritual Monarchy. * I do not in the leaft fufped this Author of any Defign of advancing thefe Papal Pretenfions, nor is his Notion with refpecl: to the Temporal Kingdom, which he faith Chrijl gave uj/, al- together the fame with theirs, and yet, as far as he efpoufes the Notion of a Temporal Monarchy that our Saviour had, fo far is he cenfured by this Convocation-Book. An un- fortunate Writer ! Who thinks a particular Scheme of Government is laid down in the Scriptures as a Law to Mankind j and yet in interpreting fome PafTages of Scripture with Relation to Government, has, we fee, more than once fall'n into Errors, that ftand Condemned in that very Book, for which, this is good reafon to believe, he has the greateft deference. Pfige 110, 112, IIJ, 114. C Tho' thefe two Authors in many things agree fo well, as if they wrote in Concert, yet we h-ive feen,that they fometimes differ from one another, as well as contradift them- felves : I mall take notice of a few more df their mutual Differences, arid their felf- Contradiclions, and fo take my Leave of them for this time. They differ about the Reputation of the Book which they anfwen The Remarker tells us, he made his Remarks on the View, be- caufe he heard wherever he came^ that it ivas applauded by Men of deep Reach, and profound Judgment^ and fuck as made a Fi- gure in their feveral Profejflons, * tho' by the way it feems all thefe Perfons, of whom he gives fo great a Character, were not able to diftinguifii Utopia from England. Or, if they were able, he is not : According to the Title of his Book, he, or they muft be Vifionaries. But the Natural Born SubjeEl differs from the Retnarker, and fays neither Whigjior To- ry is pleas'd with the View* f If fo I am at a lofs to know for what Reafon he mould give himfelf the Trouble to anfwer a Book that Preface to the Remarks. f Ltttfr f. 4. na L 170 ] no body was pleas'd with, unlefs it were to {hew his great Skill in Englifti Hiftory. There were fometimes Difputes about Ti- tles of wbicb, the Remarker fays, the Popu- lace were not competent Judges and in jiich Cafes the Pofleffbr was fworn to as right- //, and it was but reasonable, if the Right Heir could not be difcover d^ or his Title cleared to the SatisfaElion of the SubjeBs^ who were to fwear to him j for in this melior eft Conditio Poflidentis. * Again fpeaking of the Duke of TorVs Title, what would Mr. H. have more . And if the Great Men were the Judges heretofore, why are they not fo now, and what would the Remarker have more ? Why is he not concluded by their Judgment now ? Both thefe Authors fometimes, but the Remarker very often to get rid of an Argument gives up his own Caufe. But the Natural Born SubjeB denys the great Men are Judges, and fays, in a Competition for the Crown, there is nothing elfe to be done * Remarks 2' *5- t Ibidf. 26. but hit every Man to fatisfie bis own Confidence the beji Joe can, as to the Right of the Com- fetitors. But as to any judicial Determina- tion, there can be none upon Earth -^ * H6 is here diametrically oppoiite to the Remar- ker. But the great Error of this Author is, that he doth not confider Men as Members of Civil Society, who in civil Matters in order to the publick Peace of it, muft be concluded by a Publick Judgment , but looks upon them as fo many Independent Indivi- duals, I may rather lay, as fo many Inde- pendent Governors, whilft he cenfures not only the Judgment of other Men, but the Publick Judgment too, when it differs from his own : But I am not here to difpute, but only to fhew how he differs from the Remarker. There is nothing perplexes thefe two Au- thors more, than Oaths, Ceflions,and Submi- flions, about which they fometimes differ from one another, and fometimes contradict themfelves-, tho' in the main they agree in their Management , making Submiffions, Ceflions, and Oaths, to give up, or not to give up a Right or Claim, as it ferves their prefent Argument. Thus the Submifiion of the Jews, and the Submifiion and Oaths of *Lettirf t 74. 75, the the Seriate, and People of Row*?, (hall give up their Right , but the long Submiffion Oaths, &c.* of the Houfe of Tork fhall not abate their Right, nor Prejudice their Claim as the Remarker fays, p. 26. And the Natu- ral Born SubjeB fays, That Age will be a Precedent of the mofl inflexible Loyalty^ which The Ufurpation for fixty Tears Continuance together, nor Succefs, nor Prefcription, nor ABs of Parliament , no nor the Submiffion or Rejig?iation ofthofe ivho had the Right could abate, they f aw thefe were not free and vo- luntary and therefore would lay no Strefs up- on them -, p. 70, 71. And yet at another time to get rid of the Argument from the Homi- lies, and to favour King John's Title, he fays, Arthur was dead and his Sifter Elea- nor a Prifoner in King John's Hand, and her Life at his Mercy every Hour ^ fo that there was no Claim made by her, or for her p. 1 02. The Heirs of the Houfe of Terk could never quit their Claim by fixty Years Subjection, accepting Commiffions, or repea- ted Oaths, tho' at perfect Liberty -, (For by this time the Natural Born SubjeB may be fenfible, that he had no more reafon to put them under Conftraint, than the Remarker had to put them in Durefs.) And yet here the bare Non-claim of Eleanor , who was a Prifoner,(hall ferve the turn. At another time Edgar Atheling, who, I fuppofe, even he will noi ( 173) not fay, was more free than the Heirs of the Houfe of Tork, (hall by Submiffion and an Oath of Fidelity transfer his Right to William the Conqueror. William the Con^ queror, fays the Natural Born Subjett, ob- tain* d a Ri^bt, becaufe Edgar Atheling the true Heir fubmitted andfwore Fidelity to him y p. 38, 59. Is not this $ts\vuw -ry \3xnfyau. to have a greater regard to an Hypothecs, than Truth. And here, by the way,I might ob~ ferve,how he paiTes by Edgar Athelings Sifter, Margaret Queen of Scotland^ who was then truly the Heirefs of the Saxon Line, tho' at another time, we fee,hecaii make herDaughter I/Laud to be the Heirefs of the Saxon Line, who was no Heirefs at all, having Four Brothers alive. Whether the Hereditary Defcent of the Crown is Limitable by Ad: of Parliament, is a Queftion, upon which the Writers of that fide are as much divided : But to confine my felf chiefly to thofe with whom I have been engaged in this Con- troverfy. The Objeftor holds the De- fcent of the Crown is limitable by Ad of Parliament. The Natural Born SubjeEi, and Remarker both deny it. The Natural Born Subjefi denies it -, becaufe he believes the Right of Succeffion by Primogeniture, is of Divine Inftitution, and a Law of the whole Earth. If the Remarker isr of the (174) the fame Opinion, (which he doth not plainly declare) he differs very much from the Learned Author, whofe Book * he hath fo often recommended to me, who in his Preface goes no higher than human Autho- rity, or a fundamental Law of the Monar- chy, which he fuppofes has fix'd the Suc- ceflion. He (aw there were no grounds in the Holy Scriptures to fix the SuccefTion on divine Inftitution or Law. On the other hand, the Natural Born SubjeB is, I believe, convinced, that it cannot be un- alterably fix'd by human Law, fince he ap- pears to be of my Lord Bacon's Opinion, || which I think is very true, that the Su- preme Power may difTolve, but cannot bind it felf, fo that I have thus far both thefe Authors with me againft each other: The Author of Jovian agreeing with me againft the Natural Born SubjeEl y that the Suc- ceflion to the Crown is not eftablifh'd by a Divine Law - ? and the 'Natural Born Sub- je8 agreeing with me againft that Author, that the Succeflion cannot be unalterably fixM by human Law. But to f;itisfiethe Natural Born Sitb]el2.n& the Remarker, that I have not miftaken that Author's Senfe in his Preface, they may Jovian It Letter p. 18. find ( 175 ) find in the Book it felf (which I defire the Natural Born Subjeft efpecially to obferve) that he is fo far from making Succeffion to a Crown by Primogeniture to be of Di- vine Right, that he denies Monarchy it felf to be of divine Right,exclu(ive of other forms of Government. For after he has run thro* other Forms of Government, whether An- ftocracys, or Democracy V, as the Govern- ment of Sparta, of Venice, and of the Can- tons of Switzerland, and obferved wherein the Sovereignty was, and is refpedively lod- ged in each of them, he fays, / was the more 'willing to wake this Observation, that when I fpeak of Sovereign Princes, I may not be malicioufly traduced, as if I fpoke of them exclufively of other Sovereigns, as if Monarchy were of fole Divine Right. For want of this Dijlinftion, other Authors have had this invidious Imputation laid upon them. * But if the Remarker (hall fay, he Agrees with the Author of Jovian, he muft then at the fame Time Confefs, that he is direftly Oppofite to his Partner in this Controverfy, the Natural Born SubjeEl. * Jovian 240, 241. ( 17* ) Tis True, that amidft all thefe Differen- ces, they at this Time happen to agree (tho* fome of them not very confidently with them* felves) in one Conclufion, deduced from Pre- mifes, as different as their Principles \ but had they lived in fome of the Reigns, we have before difcourfed of,and purfued their different Principles, they would have form'd (for they would not have found any) different Par- ties, and been fome of them Jurors, and others Non-Jurors then. As I have hitherto taken no notice of the hard Words, Angry Invectives, and ram and uncharitable Genfures, which make fo many Pages of both thefe Anfwers fo I fhal always neglect them being perfect- ly fatisfied, that there was nothing provo^ king in the View, which, whatever it wanted, did not want Temper ^ and I hope I have made no Retaliation in .this Defence : For to forgive the Authors, aud not to imitate them, is the beft ufe that can be made of that way of Writing. F I N I [ 177] APPENDIX. Number. I. Anno XIV. Edwardi Qitarti. I Tern, Our faid Soveraigne Lord the King remembring that it was Ordained, Eria- fted, and Eftabliflied, by Aurhoritie of the Parliament holden at Weflmmfler, the Second Day of May, in the Ninth Yeereof the Reigne of the Noble King Henry V. Inte in Deed and not of Right, King of this. Noble Realme of England, as heereafter followeth. * Item 9 whereas the taking of Affifes generally, hath long ceafed throughout this Real me of En- gland, becaufe of a Statute and Ordinance made by our faid Soveraigne Lord the King, at his Second PalTage towards the Partes of Normandie, and by his Counfell : Our faid Soveraigne Lord confidering the great Difea- fes and Damages, which divers of his Liege People have had and fuftdiped by the fame ceafing, hath ftraightly Commanded^ and Commandeth, that hisjuilicesirnil hold the Aflifes through the Realme of England, in t J Hers logins the Recital o/H^ary tin VtTff $M:ttt, N the the manner ufed and accuftomed. And to Efchew the difherifons of the fame Perfons, which now be pafTed and (hall palTe in this Voiaga Royall of the King, (which God Speed,) and alfo of the Perfons which be abiding in the Service of our Soveraigne Lord the King, in the Partes of Normandie and of France, it is ordained and provided, that in every Protection with the Claufe of Tolumus "to be made for every of the fame Perfons, there (hall be in the Claufe of the Exception of the fame contained Omiflion of thefe Words, affife nove diffcifme* And that all Protections be allowable for them, and every of them,in all the Counties of our Saver Lord the King, in any Place where fuch Protection is caft forth for any fuch Perfon, in all the Pleas of Aflifes as well of No. difs. as of -FreJJj Force i without any difficulty. Pr0- vided always, that the Judgements to bee given from henceforth in fuch Aflifes Arraigned or to be Arraigned, (hall not be prejudicial to any of the faid Perfons fo abiding in the King's Noble Service beyond the Sea, as is aforefaid, which hath any thing in Reverfion or Re- mainder in fuch Lands oi^Tenemenrs, whereof fuch Aflifes -be or (hall be Arraigned, if they that have in Reverfion or Remainder of fuch Laads or Tenements be not Named in the fame Aflifes, but that they bee againft them Voyde. C Voyde. And this Ordinance fhall endure till the Parliament, which fhall be next hoi- den after the next coming againe of our So- veraigne Lord the King into this Realrae of England. And if this Ordinance touching the faid Perfons, abiding in the King's Service beyond the Sea, and alfo touching the faid Perfons, which have patted and fhall pafle in the faid Voyage, be not fufficient for the Eafe and Surety of them, it is accorded and aflented, that the Lords of the King's Cotm- cell for the time berhg, fhall have full Power by Authority of this prefent: Parliament, to fet, ordaine and provide fufficient Remedy for the Eafe and Suretie 7 of all the faid Perfons and every of them, as to the faid Lords mail feeme Availeable and : Expedient in the cafe, after their good Advife and Difcretion. * Our Sovereigne Lord the King will and hath Ordained, Enacted, and Eftablimed, by the Advife and AfTent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and the Commons in this prefent Parliament AtTembled;, and by Authority of the fame, that the fame Order and the fame La we, comprifed in the faid Statute, and Or- dinance, fhall be now obferved and kept, and fhall be as Availeable for all manner of Per- * KM ends th Rriul of Henry th rtt Statute* N 2 fons, [ i8o] fons, which now mall pafle over the Sea with our Soveraigne Lord the Kins; in this Voyage Royall, and there fhall abicle in his faid Noble Service as they were, for fuch Perfons which did pafle over the Sea with the faid late King, and there did abide in his Noble Service. And that all fuch Persons, which now fhall pafle over the Sea with our faid Soveraigne Lord the King, fhall haveand Enjoy in every pointe all manner of Advan- tages, as the faid Perfons fo patting over the Sea with the faid late King, had, fhould have, and might have had by reafon of the faid Statute. This A& and Ordinance to endure till the next Parliament, which fhall be firft holden after the next coming of our Soveraigne Lord the King into England. Raft all's Collettions Vol. i.f. 316. Number II. We Oath tvhich Richard Duke of York took, to be True, Faithful,- and Obedient SubjeB, to King Henry the Sixth, atSt.PaulsCrofs, in the Prefence of the King and moft of his 'Nobility, in 1452. being- the %otb. Taar 0/Henry the Sixths Reign. I Richard Duke of Tork, Confefs and Beknow, that I am, and ought to be, humble C'8' 3 humble Subjeft, and Liege-Man, to you my Soveraign Lord King Henry VI. and owe therefore to bear you^ Faith and Truth, as to my Soveraign Liege Lord, and ftmll do all Days unto my Lives End, and (hall not at any Time Will or Alfent, that any thing be Attempted or done againft your moft Noble Perfon, but wherefoever I fhali have Know- ledge of any fuch thing imagined or propofed, I fhall with all Speed and Diligence poflible to me, make that your Highnefs mall have Knowledge thereof, and over that, do all that mail be poflible to me, to the withftand- ing and let thereof, to the uttermoft of my Life. I fhall not any thing take upon me againft your Royal Eftate j or Obeyfance that is due thereto, nor fuffer any other Man to do, as far forth as (hall be in my Power to let it : And alfo fhall come at your Com- mandement whenfoever I fhall be call'd by the fame, in Humble and Obeyfant Wife, but if I be letted by any Sicknefs, or Impo- tence of my Perfon, or by fuch other Caufe as mail be thought by you my Soveraigne Lord Reafonable, I fhall never hereafter take upon me to gather any Rowt, or to make any AfTembly of your People, withoutyourCom- mandment or Licenfe, or in my Lawful De- fence, I mail report me at all Times to your Hielnefs, and if the Cafe require, to my N 3 Peers, ., Peers, nor any thing Attempt againft any of your Svbjefts, of what Eftate, Degree or Condition that they be. But whenfoever 1 find my felf Wronged and Agrieved, I (hall fue Humbly for Remedy to your Highnefs, and proceede after the Courfe of your Lawes and in none otherwife, faving in my own Lawful! Defence in manner abovefaid, and otherwife -have to your Highnefs, as an Humble and True Subjed ought to have to his Soveraigne Lord. All thefe things above- faid, I Promife you truly to Obferve and Keep, by the Holy Evange^ifts contained in the Book that I lay my Hand here upon, and by the Holy Crofs I here Touch, and by the BleiTed Sacrament of the Lords Body, that I fhall now with his Mercy Receive. And over, I agree me, and will, that if I any Time hereafter, as by the Grace of our Lord God I never fhall, any thing Attempt by way of Feate,or otherwife againft your Royall Majeftie, 6t the Obey fance that I owe thereto, or any thing take upon me otherwife than is above exprefted, I from that Time forth be unabled held, and taken as an untrue and openly forefworn Man, and unable to all manner of Worfhip, Eftate and Degree, be it fuch as I now occupy, or any other that might in any Wife grow unto me hereafter. And this I have heere promifed and Sworn, pro- proceeded of mine own defire and free Volume, and by no conftraining or Coa&ion. In Wit- nefs of all thefe things above Written, I Richard Duke of Tork above Writ, Subfoibe with my own Hand and Seal. This Oatb be alfo tosk at Weftminfter, and at Coven trie at fundry Times in tbe 3 ift Tear ofK. Henry VI. Stow. Page 396. Number III. The Oatb wbicb Richard Duke who thus perverts Law, Hiftory, and the Sacred Scriptures. * Bald, in L.fion dubivm C. de Legist . t L. Si fundus de rebus eonim, ynipl> tutela &cvrafunt, non alienandis. FINIS. 1) i) 8