JX J4.22- =Uo ^ UC-NRLF 157 THE QUESTION BlfiTW! KN NEW 10RH, DECEMB1-': ^'a MEW YORK: VM. C. BRYANT & CO., PRINTERS, 41NASSATJ STREET, COR. LIBERTY, j! 1860. GIFT OF JANE K. FATHER THE QUESTION BETWEEN tates mid f cm NEW YORK, DECEMBER th, 1860, NEW YORK: WM. C. BRYANT & CO, PRINTERS, 41 NASSAU STREET, COR. LIBERTY. 1860. THE QUESTION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND PERU. I THE pending question with Peru has given rise to commentaries from the press and from individuals, most unfavorable to the character and reputation of that govern- ment. And it could not be otherwise from the moment that those commentaries are made, on information obtained from correspondents who derive it from parties directly or indirectly interested in the successful issue of the matters in dispute. The unsettled condition of the Spanish American Republics, and the excesses that, in many instances, in the exaltations of internal struggles, have been committed, al- though always promptly, and most willingly atoned for, have inclined more happy and orderly nations to regard with suspicion all the acts that those governments, in the full exercise of their rights, have been called upon to en- force, specially against foreigners, when their laws have been violated, their peace disturbed, or their interests in- jured. Many years of internal revolution and anarchy, rapid changes in governments and constitutions, have im- pressed foreign nations with a strong conviction against the possibility of having peace and order firmly established in the republics of South America; and, although, during 328818 the late years, sonie of those republics have successfully struggled against that revolutionary spirit, and overcome it by force of arms, and of public opinion, as in Peru, that conviction has not been altered, and the same ideas are generally entertained as to the political condition of those countries. It is starting from this premise that foreign governments show, in almost every instance, a decided tendency to protect by their forces the interests of their citizens when impaired by the acts of any party, be it a legal government or a band of revolutionists, without stopping to maturely consider whether those acts were brought about by guiltiness on the part of their citizens, or by arbitrary behavior on the part of the supposed offender. They generally presume that, the country being in revolution, the internal laws not being respected, it is a natural consequence that the rights of neutrals should be violated, and, so disposed, they lend a favorable ear to the partial and interested statement of their complaining citizen, and enforce his claims with all their power. What is the result of this policy ? That some for- eigners, counting upon impunity, become the agents of the revolutionists, and, trusting in the protection of their govern- ments, embark in wild speculations to afford them means to carry on their subversive plans. And so it is that those republics, although receiving from the foreign element the means of peace and prosperity, by the action of some con- scientiousless speculators receive also the means of revolution and disorder. It is quite time that foreign governments adopt a line of policy more congenial to the actual condition of the South American republics, and that the press of more civilized countries, throwing aside the pre-occupations arisen from an order of things that no longer exists, be the medium of spreading the truth, be it favorable or adverse to the governments under which they live, lending so its powerful assistance to the cause of justice and fairness. In the pending question of the United States with Peru, several writers have suggested the expediency of using the naval forces of the Union to bring her to terms, imitating so the arbitrary and despotic way of settling differences of opin- ion on principles of international law, adopted by some Euro- pean nations in their disputes with weaker or defenseless countries. To this we have only to say, that such a be- havior would be unworthy of a great nation, and highly disapproved by the majority of a noble people that sees in Peru a sister republic trying to protect her rights against the conspiracy of a few speculators, and seeking in that people the moral support required by her cause, which is the cause of justice and of self-preservation. The United States do not require the employment of force to obtain satisfaction, when their demands are grounded on justice ; the history of their relations with Peru, shows most undoubt- edly the consideration and respect with which all their suggestions have always been received and attended to ; and cases could be named where differences between the government of Peru and the United States Minister have been submitted to the decision of the United States Govern- ment, and the same faithfully executed by Peru. But the pending question is not one of dollars and cents, as very maliciously has been suggested, but of a principle, and of such an importance that its decision will settle, " whether u a party of speculators, by taking temporary possession of :t the guano deposits, can despoil Peru of her property and " most valuable source of revenue, under the protection of :t the American flag." It is on this point that we wish to call the attention of the American public and press ; and to give them a thorough understanding of the question, we now beg to submit a brief statement, taken from the official correspondence, which we will also submit to the public's appreciation. II. In the latter part of the year 1856, the city of Arequipa, in the south of Peru, raised the standard of insurrection against the legal government, and proclaimed General Vivanco, then in exile, as head of the intended revolution. A portion of the Peruvian navy joined in the movement. A struggle commenced which ended with the attack and surrender of Arequipa, that part of the insurgent navy, hav- ing previously submitted to the legal government. During this contest some places were entered by the revolutionists, and abandoned on appearance of the government troops, but they never occupied the capital of the republic, nor was General Yivanco recognized by any member of the diplomatic corps. On the contrary, they all remained in the capital and continued their relations with the legal govern- ment, which is the same existing up to the present time. The revolutionists, having at their disposal a naval force, took temporary possession of some of the seaports, and guano deposits. The government and congress declared pirates the insurgent ships, warned all nations and individuals against making any contracts, purchases of guano, loans, &c., &c., to the revolutionists, and protested in the strongest terms against their acts, saving the responsibility of the nation for the same, and making the parties contracting with them responsible for all damages arising to the republic from those contracts, or from any assistance given to the revolutionists, As regards to the guano, there was not only this warning from the government, but it has been publicly known that its export and sale is made under special contracts, approved by congress, with several mercantile houses for the different countries where it is consumed; most of its proceeds are applied to the payment of foreign debts, and the govern- ment, by virtue of those contracts, is prohibited from dis- posing of the guano in any other way. The regulations of trade, which no government in Peru can alter without congressional concurrence and sanction, specially forbid the exports of guano from any other deposits but those at the Chincha Islands, and by the same, no ship can load guano without taking, previously, a license from the Custom-House at Callao. It was under these circumstances that parties, in Iquique and Valparaiso, contracted with supposed agents of the revolutionists the purchase of a number of tons of guano, and that the American ships Georgiana and Lizzie Thomp- son, according to their masters' assurances, were chartered to load at Playa de Lobos and Pavellon de Pica, points in the coast of Peru, not only not opened to foreign trade, but uninhabited, and places from which the exportation of guano has always been specially forbidden. Whilst loading, the ships were taken by a Peruvian man-of-war and brought over to Callao, where a suit before the proper courts of jus- tice, commenced by the government against them, resulted in their confiscation in behalf of the captors, according to the laws of the country. This decision was sustained not only by the revenue laws, and by the laws enacted by con- gress before and at the commencement of the revolution, but by the principles of common and international law. The ships were guilty of smuggling, by breaking the revenue laws; of robbery, by making themselves parties to an attempt to take away the property of the nation against the proclamations of the legal government and the special laws of congress, which are, unquestionably, the proper representatives of its owners ; and finally, they were guilty of a breach of neutrality, because, by being the medium of transporting that property, they gave to the revolutionists the means of raising funds to make war against the constitu- tional government. It is evident to any unprejudiced mind, that no reasonable plea could be made to exculpate these ships, since the revenue laws of Peru are well known to all nations, and especially in the United States, connected with Peru in several branches of trade ; since the proclamations, laws, and protests of the constitutional government and congress, had been published there as well as here ; since the regulations of the guano trade are known everywhere, and particularly in the United States, where they have been published by the United States Government ; since the United States not recognizing in Peru other govern- ment than the one at Lima, their citizens owed submission and respect to the laws of that government, so far as their acts were free and independent from all coercion, and were bound not to acknowledge, from their own will, any other government in Peru ; and since, at all events, they were obliged to observe the laws of neutrals, by not committing, voluntarily, acts that not only favored the cause of a revolter, but were in open violation of the laws of the coun- try, previous to the revolution. The ships, therefore, in engaging in this illicit traffic, were induced to it, either by a profit, which, in the opinion of their managers justified the risk that they were to run, or by a confidence in the respon- sibility of the charterers to make them good their damages, 9 in case of failure. At any rate, it is clear enough that they could not look to diplomatic interference to shield them in such illegal pursuits, because, from the moment that they contracted in collusion with authorities not recognized by their own government, and violating the special provisions of the laws and regulations of trade which governed the traffic between Peru and the United States, they could have no reason to anticipate a protection against the penalties to which they made themselves amenable by their free and voluntary acts. III. The United States Minister in Peru, in defence of the masters of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, addressed a communication to the Peruvian Government for the purpose of proving 1st. That neither the vessels nor their captains had partici- pated in any criminal or scandalous contraband ; and, 2d. That the arrest of the vessels and of their officers was not in virtue of a perfect right. The Minister of Foreign Relations vindicated the rights of Peru, and victoriously showed the inconsistency of Mr. Clay's arguments. It is indeed very remarkable what illogical as well as undiplomatic style of argument, is adopted by that gentleman to arrive at a conclusion exactly opposite to what ought to be expected from the plain laws of common sense, 2 10 Mr. Clay begins by acknowledging u that the great principle " upon which all republican institutions are grounded is, that u all power resides in the people and emanates from the u people, which appoints or selects the executive portion of " the government. That popular suffrage is the regular and " constitutional way of expressing this selection, but that, " unfortunately, in Peru the changes that have occurred in " her administration have been brought about by a revolu- u tion. This revolution has commenced, almost in every u instance, by an armed insurrection, whose chief, after " having secured the assistance of a number of partisans, has " proclaimed himself, or been proclaimed by them President " ' ad interim," 1 has appointed a cabinet, given decrees, and " exercised other acts of executive power. That the neces- " sary result of these acts has been a civil war v during which u the revolutionists have not ^hesitated in appropriating to " themselves the national property to maintain their cause, " and that the party of Vivanco had followed the same steps u during the then actual revolution." Professing^ as we do, the same principles with Mr. Clay as regards to popular sovereignty, and believing that all power emanates from the people, we lament with him the unfortu- nate condition of some of the Hispano-American Republics, which are yet struggling to emancipate themselves from the yoke of bastardly ambitions, and from the turbulent spirit that devours their vitality. To consolidate peace and order, and promote prosperity in those unhappy countries, they look to the moral support and friendly advice of foreign nations, and especially to the United States, who, having shown to them the way towards independence, and impressed them with love and enthusiasm for democratic institutions, have naturally be- come their allies and protectors. Better prepared, by edu- cation, internal prosperity, and municipal institutions, for 11 self-government than Hispano-America, the United States consolidated their independence, and national prosperity, without the internal struggles that those colonies had to over- come ; but, in their misfortunes, they deserve sympathy and consideration because their struggles are for the consolida- tion of republican institutions, against theocratical influ- ences ; of popular rights, against military despotism ; of con- stitutional liberty, against fanatical oppression. Has Mr. Clay forgotten the causes that brought about the popular insur- rection that gave birth to the present government of Peru ? The abolition of slavery, the extinction of the ominous Indian tribute, the practical exertion of municipal rights, the reductions in the tariff, the extended facilities to foreign trade, and the constitution of 1856, are the most prominent fruits of this administration. The vote of the people ap- pointed the National Convention that framed the constitu- tion, and the same vote elected, by a great majority, the actual President of Peru. Can this be called a self-pro- claimed President, or a chief appointed by a number of his armed partisans? Certainly not. If, "all power resides in the people, and emanates from the people," no power is more legal, nor appointment more in conformity with " the great principle upon which all republican institutions are grounded," than that exercised by, and conferred upon the present Government of Peru. Let us examine now the relative position occupied by Vivanco's party. IV. The constitution of 1856 destroyed the absurd privileges given to the ecclesiastical and military classes, under the name of fueros, submitted them to the common law, and re- quired from the clergy an oath of allegiance to the laws of the country. These classes, wounded in their privileges, sought for the means of pulling down the government through "an armed insurrection," but not finding them neither in the regular army, nor among the populations of the capital and other places, directed their labors to Are- quipa, a city where the lower class is numerous and excit- able, and somewhat fanatical. General Yivanco, then in exile, has always been distinguished by his despotical polit- ical ideas ; his principles of government are reduced to the theories of " 1'Etat c'est moi ;" and, impressed with a deep conviction of the purity of his intentions, as well as of the soundness of his judgment, he does not acknowledge in the nation more rights than what he may be willing to allow, free from all legal control, and requires implicit and passive obedience from all to his commands. Like all despots, he caresses the clergy, seeing in their influence a medium of political abatement, and the clergy, very properly, elected him for chief of the insurrection. Arequipa revolted and proclaimed Vivanco, and a part of the navy followed, moved by causes that it is better not to expose. No other town, no city, joined in this movement ; without means of resistance, many of them submitted, when the re- volters entered them, but immediately returned to legal obedience when evacuated. Others, like Piura, and Callao, offered a resistance worthy of the cause they defended, and 13 all contributed to restore order and conquer the insurrection. What principle was then sustained or invoked by Yivanco ? None. Excited and invoked by the privileges of one class, his flag was his will, his programme was his personal eleva- tion ; his dominion was limited to the actual occupation of his forces, and his authority was acknowledged only by his accomplices. And this is exactly the position given to him by Mr. Clay in the above cited words. Can the law of na- tions invest a man so situated with the rights of a belliger- ent ? For the sake of humanity and of every principle of common sense, we say no ! ten times no ! Yivanco was the head of a mutiny. Whether it lasted two years, or two hours, the time is immaterial ; it does not alter the principle nor affect, in the least, the respective position of the parties. Peru had not lost her place in the catalogue of nations, nor her rights as such, and it is the most absurd of human inven- tions to pretend to divest the legal possessor of those rights, to invest them, on the head of a band of marauders. It is true that many of the governments that 'have existed in Peru have had their origin in an armed insurrection, but the fact that they have become governments, proves sufficiently, by itself, that they had the assistance and co-operation of the people, as they have, without other means but the popular support, overthrown a government abundantly supplied with all the elements required to fight successfully. Revise the history of the last twenty years, and the truth appears more clearly. Torrico's government overthrown by Vidal, Yivanco by Castilla, Echenique by Castilla. And why this, when those governments had the regular army and the navy, and all the property of the nation, including the guano deposits, at their command? Because Torrico and Yivanco represented despotism and force, whereas Vidal and Castilla fought for the constitution and the laws, for the rights of the people, 14 and universal suffrage. And it is for this very same reason, that now, when the legal government, by the most con- temptible treachery, lost the guano deposits and other means of revenue, when all of them passed over to the arbitrary control of the insurgent Yivanco, and when this found in a few strangers co-operation, and help denied to the former, it is, we say, for that reason that the insurgents were sub- dued, and the legal government re-affirmed, because its cause was the cause of the people. The speculators, or their advisers, ought to have been gov- erned by this principle, viz. : " That in Peru, when a revolution u is made against oppression, and in favor of the true interests " of the people, that revolution is most undoubtedly bound " to triumph, no matter what resistance may be offered to u it ; and vice versa, that all revolutions purporting to de- " stroy the constitutional rights of the people must neces- " sarily succumb irrespective of the means that may muster u to aid its ends." It is no wonder that persons looking only at the surface of events, should think that all revolutions are bound to succeed, because such has been the result in a ma- jority of cases; but if they stop to inquire into the causes for these successes, they will find them in the popular rights that they have proclaimed, when the people has been most oppressed by those self-proclaimed presidents. 15 V. From what has been stated, it is plain that the govern- ment of General Castilla exercised all the incumbencies of a national government in its relations with foreign countries; not in virtue of an acknowledgment from them as govern- ment de facto, and as a matter of expediency, but in virtue of its legality as the constitutional government of Peru, which had the right to be recognized by the powers that formerly recognized and promised to respect the independ- ence of Peru, as a sovereign nation. None of these powers had then the right of revoking their act of recognition to that government, nor to change it, while it existed, to another party. Under such circumstances, a revolution, no matter to what extent it spread, nor the principles that it pro- claimed, could not be officially regarded by foreign nations, but as an internal commotion, not affecting in the least their relations, nor those of their citizens, with Peru, because this country was, " so far as respects the effects of its political " condition upon its intercourse with foreign powers, in a " state of peace." Nor could it be otherwise, because, if governments constituted in a legal manner are responsible to foreign nations for all trespasses upon the rights and in- terests of their subjects, no matter whether the perpetrator is a legal authority or the deputy of an usurper, this respon- sibility is mainly based on the impossibility of the foreign nation, in virtue of its recognition of the authority of the government, to treat with a revolter, or punish him, exerting an act of internal jurisdiction. As Mr. Clay very properly remarks, a chief, "with the assistance of a number of parti- " sans, exercises acts o executive power" although not in 16 possession of the government, and, on the contrary, op- posed by it and by a majority of the people. But this chief is a revolter, his acts are repudiated by the nation, and, if defeated, is irresponsible for damages caused under his authority. For the very reason that he is chief of a number of partisans, he is not recognized by foreign nations, because such a recognition would entirely save the responsibility of the nation for his acts, and, failing in the ends of his revolt, the injured interests would be left unin- demnified ; whereas, on the contrary, if he succeeds, he is bound to fulfill the obligations incurred by a regularly con- stituted government, according to the law of nations. The argument, then, of Mr. Clay is contra producentem, because if a chief of rebels lacks of competent authority to treat in the name of the nation " according to the principles on which "republican institutions are grounded;" if he can contract no obligations for want of the proper responsibility, it is a natural consequence that he cannot confer rights, nor effect acts that involve a delegation of popular sovereignty which he does not possess, because "his authority does not eman- " ate from the people." 17 VI. It has been argued in the official correspondence on this subject, whether Peru was in a state of civil war during the mutiny of the city of Arequipa, and two or three ships of the navy. In the language of Attorney-General Black, u when the people of a republic are divided into two hostile u parties, who take up arms and oppose one another by mili- tary force, this is civil war." If this principle is correct, we can well assure that there was no civil war in Peru, be- cause the people were not divided into two hostile parties, nor had taken up arms to oppose one another. The legal government was recognized and obeyed through all the republic, except in the places occupied by armed bands of Vivanco. They took up arms against them in every instance, and it was the gallant people of Callao that defeated, by themselves, the numerous forces of that chief who attempted to take that town, anticipating an easy vic- tory. All the cities in the interior, in the north and centre of the republic, where there were no armed forces, re- mained faithful to the legal government, and armed them- selves to protect their rights. There was no division in the people when free from coercion, and, therefore, there was no civil war. A foreign nation could not legally recognize the condition of Peru as in a state of civil war, because there was no identity of positions, nor circumstances, between a legal government and a number of armed partisans obeying the discretional authority of their chief; because the autho- rity of this chief was exclusively circumscribed to the ground occupied by his armed bands ; because the territory over which he pretended to exercise jurisdiction was so small, both in extent and population, as compared with the 3 18 population and extent of Peru, that there was not the least shadow of possibility of becoming an independent govern- ment; because the chief himself did not proclaim more principle than self-elevation ; and, finally, because foreign nations, by a practice of forty years, have themselves laid down the principle of not acknowledging the effect of inter- nal dissensions in cases of reclamations and indemnities of their citizens. To assume that foreign governments have the right of declaring a country in a state of civil war, and acknowledge two governments in it, without being subject to any principle of international law previously laid down and generally consented to, without establishing any rules marking the difference between a civil war, a military insur- rection, a mutiny, or a revolt, and without marking the limits of rights and obligations of the internal belligerents, which could not be absolutely the same as those of belliger- ent nations inter se, is an absurd pretension resisted by reason, and by the most common suggestions of common sense. Better have the merit of frankness, and say to the world, u With the weak I will enforce their obligations with- " out respecting their rights." Such a position is untenable, and it is not in the present age when we ought to expect a sanction to the doctrine of force against justice, 19 VII. But if it is unlawful for a government to make indiscrimin- ately such a declaration, and which, by the bye, is the only one that would authorize its subjects to assume the rights of neutrals ; how unreasonable would it not be to allow such a privilege to private individuals ? Are the rights of nations, the worth of treaties, and the friendly relations between different countries, to be left at the mercy of the interests of a number of speculators ? Can irresponsible , persons, unac- quainted with the most common principles of international law, decide, by themselves, whether their governments are to recognize one, two, or more executive powers in another country ? Can they compel their governments to remodel the law of nations so as to suit their speculations ? Can they act as supreme judges in the internal dissensions of a foreign country ? Can they decide, by themselves, taking an antag- onistic position to their own governments, what is the legal government of a foreign nation, and oblige theirs to abide by their decision ! Can they authoritatively say, when it shall be lawful for them to disregard the laws of a govern- ment recognized by theirs, and/reeZy, and of their own will, act in direct contravention to them ? Let the American people answer to these questions. The President of the United States, his Attorney-General, and his Minister in Peru, by defending and protecting the acts of the masters of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, imply a justification of the assumption of these unwarrantable authorities, because these masters knew that Ilivas was acting under the name of a revolter, and they fredy and voluntarily acknowledged him as a legal authority ; they knew that the laws of the country forbade the export of guano from all places except the Chin- 20 cha Islands, and freely and voluntarily undertook to export it from Pavellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos ; they knew that these places, by the regulations of trade, were closed to foreign commerce, and freely and voluntarily went to them with their ships ; they knew that the Custom-House at Cal- lao was, by law, the only power authorized to grant permits to load guano, and freely and voluntarily took one from a party in Iquique that had no authority to grant them ; they knew that the exportation of guano could be carried on by law, only by the vessels under contract with the government or its agents, and freely and voluntarily made contracts with other parties; they knew that the legal government, the government recognized by the United States, was at Lima, and disobeyed by the revolters of Iquique, and they freely and voluntarily assumed Yivanco to be the supreme govern- ment of Peru ; they knew that the exports of guano for Great Britain could not be made but by the legal agents of the gov- ernment, and freely and voluntarily bound themselves to take it out for other parties ; they knew that this guano to be taken by them was sold by a party that had no legal authority to sell, and that the value of the sale was to be received by the revolters, and freely and voluntarily con- tributed to carry on this spoliation ; and finally, they knew that the legal government had declared its decision to enforce the regulations and laws by which their ships were subject to confiscation, and their persons to punishment, and freely and voluntarily exposed themselves to these penalties. In the face of these facts, and of the force of the principles laid down, can it be satisfactorily maintained, that "the u ships had not participated in any criminal contraband, and " that their arrest, and that of their officers, was not in virtue " of a perfect right ?" VIII. The supposition that Peru was in a state of civil war, which gives to the contending parties the rights of bellig- erents, and to foreign nations the rights of neutrals, does not justify the position taken by the present government of the United States in the case in dispute. Setting aside the ne- cessity of a previous recognition by this government to enable its subjects to claim the rights of neutrals a necessity very ably demonstrated in the official correspondence it is a well-known principle of international law, that- those rights are violated when neutrals aiford to the enemy the means for carrying on the war, and also when they undertake to carry on a commerce forbidden in time of peace. The masters of the ships in question, by contracting to convey the guano to places where it was converted into money, afforded to the enemy the means of carrying on the war. Whether the con- veyance w^as made on account, as some of the crew stated, of the Peruvian Government de facto, or on account of parties that purchased from it, it is entirely immaterial. Guano, the property of the nation, is comparatively valueless without the means of transport, and whilst in the deposits could not aiford any funds to the possessor of it. By removing it from there, and taking it out from a territory that was liable to fall into the hands of the other belligerent at any moment, the ships gave to Vivanco resources that he could not have ob- tained otherwise, Guano, in the revenue sources of Peru, occupies the same place as the gold in the public treasury of the United States, with the only difference that this, once re- moved by a belligerent, could not be identified, whereas the other could, at any time. But neither the one nor the other can be considered, in any case, in a war, as neutrals' property, and less so when caught in the act of shipment within the national jurisdiction and properly identified. We have not seen any writer on public law claiming the well-known prop- erty of a belligerent as neutral property, and giving to it the protection of the rights of neutrals. It has not been uniformly decided which are the articles to be properly considered as contraband of war; in some cases its classification has been made by treaties between nations in time of peace ; but in most of them the belligerent powers have published resolutions stat- ing which are the articles or merchandise that they will seize under neutral flags, as such contraband. That articles declared contraband of war, and not objected to as such by neutral powers, are subject to seizure, is a principle admitted by all nations, as also the confiscation of the ships carrying them has been very generally practiced. The legal government of Peru published, on the 1st of April, 1857, a decree approved by the national convention, one of the pro- visions of which was, that u all guano exported, or thereafter "to be exported, from the Chincha Islands, or from any other ' deposit of Peru, by disturbers of the public order, or by u virtue of contracts made with them or with their agents, " shall at all times be subject to be claimed back as stolen "national property, and the parties responsible therefor shall "be civilly and criminally prosecuted in conformity with " law." The government had already, in February of the same year, published all the laws and regulations regarding the exports, &c., &c., of guano, and the penalties incurred by those violating them ; and on the 28th, it passed a circular to the diplomatic and consular agents of the republic abroad, ordering a publication of those laws " to avoid all pretext that the contrabandists might allege." These publi- cations were made in France, England, Belgium, Spain, United States, and Hispano American Republics. The Min- ister for Foreign Affairs intimated also to the diplomatic corps at Lima, the government's decision "to persecute and "seize" the vessels making contraband of guano, without receiving the slightest objection from them to this deter- mination. These notifications were made more than ten months before the capture of the ships Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, and time enough had elapsed to ascertain the objections that the position assumed by the Government of Lima might have met with from foreign powers. None were made, and in fact none could be ; because that government, be it considered as the only legal and recognized Government of Peru, or as a belligerent, had the undisputed right, based on the laws of the country and on international law, to seize and capture foreign vessels laden with an article that had been declared to be contraband, and which declaration had not been objected to by the neutrals. But even in the sup- position that such declarations had not been made by the Government of Lima, and that the United States were not willing to recognize guano to be contraband of war, so far as the results of its exports go, by giving to the enemy the means of carrying on the war ; there is yet a principle of international law sanctioned in all cases that we know of, and this principle is " that neutrals cannot undertake to carry on "a commerce forbidden in time of peace." The recognition of a state of civil war, and investment of the contending parties with the rights of belligerents, do not give to neutrals rights and privileges that they did not possess whilst the nation declared in such condition was in a state of peace, and, therefore, a commerce that was illicit before the war, continues to be so during it, and those engaged in such for- bidden trade are amenable and responsible to the laws for their acts. The laws and regulations of trade of Peru before the war, enforced by all governments, whether de jure or de facto, strictly forbade all traffic in guano ; its exports were limited to the Chincha Islands, and only on account of the government ; all vessels were forbidden, under severe penalties, from approaching any of the guano deposits except the Chinchas, and this, having previously obtained a license from the Custom-House at Callao ; no authority had power to grant permits for loading at any other place. Pavellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos were places closed to the foreign trade, and no executive authority, by the said laws of Peru, has, in time of peace or war, power to open ports to the said foreign trade. They are indispensable conditions of neutrality, not to commit acts between the belligerents that were not lawful before the war; not to acknowledge, in any of them, powers that they did not possess when invested with peaceful and unrivalled executive authority of the country ; not to modify the relations with one of the belligerents in such a way as to injure the interests of the other by giving to one rights without obligations, and to the other obligations without rights ; not to admit from the one privileges that involve an acknowledgment of rights, without consenting in the other the reciprocal power to counteract the injuries that he may receive from the exercise of those rights. Neu- trality, to be respected, must be absolute ; otherwise its objects are defeated and its rights void. The belligerents, in a civil war, can have no more rights or authority than what a regu- larly constituted government could have according to the laws of the country ; neutrals cannot acknowledge in them more power than what the latter possess, and the proper ex- tent of such a power can only be ascertained by those laws. The law of nations, by forbidding to neutrals, in their relations with belligerents, to do what was illicit when the belligerents were at peace, has established a solid principle to govern them in these cases. Secretary Cass has confirmed this principle by stating, in his dispatch of the 22d of May, 1858, that "Peru, so far as respects the effects of its "political condition upon its intercourse with other powers, "was in a state of peace." It is equivalent to say that, during the civil war, it was not lawful for the citizens of the United States to do what they could not do when the country was in a state of peace, or, in other words, that the laws and regulations that governed the commercial relations of the United States with Peru before the war, were to be consid- ered as governing and binding them during the war. But the captains of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, by their free and uncontrolable action, undertook to do what was for- bidden by those laws and regulations, in behalf of one of the belligerents, and in spite of their knowledge of those laws, and of the warnings published through the world ; they in- vested parties with authority that they did not have under the rights of belligerents, and willingly volunteered them- selves, for the sake of a high freight, to trespass upon the limits imposed upon them as neutrals, renouncing thereby their rights as such. The capture and confiscation of these ships was, therefore, made by the government of Lima, in virtue of a perfect right most unequivocally belonging to it as a belligerent, as well as the only legal executive power of Peru. 26 IX. Our arguments, so far, have been grounded on the suppo- sition that a state of civil war invested Yivanco, as a belliger- ent, with the rights as such ; we believe to have proved that these rights were not absolute, because a belligerent cannot claim more authority than what is possessed by a regularly constituted government, according to the laws of the coun- try, and even if he claimed more, neutral powers, by the law of nations, are bound not to recognize them, at least during .the transitory state of war. Yivanco had no author- ity to annul the laws and regulations of trade of the nation ; to open ports to foreign flags for commerce, or for any other purposes ; but presuming, for a moment, that he had such an authority, where is his decree annulling those laws, and throwing open to foreign flags the places of Pavellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos ? Where have they been published ? Where is his resolution investing Bivas with power to so alter the fiscal laws of the country ? Nobody has seen them, because he never issued such revelant proof of his folly. The masters of the ships in question never saw them; although knowing that what they were to do was forbidden, it is natural to presume that they ought to have asked for the act from the belligerent that raised that prohibition. They candidly accepted the assurance given by a man that commanded a ship of war, publicly declared a pirate, that all ivas right, and took his permit to go where, by the laws of the country before the war, and by the law of nations as neutrals, they were forbidden to go, What explanation can be given for this gross carelessness and candid confidence ? The expectation of being able to take in their cargoes, and sail under the protection of the pirate ship before they could 27 be detected the confidence in being able to run away, in case of emergency, as other ships did at the Chinchas, on approach of the government cruisers. It was a risky but profitable business, and, in their judgment, the chances in their favor were such that they considered themselves justi- fied in attempting it. Their ignorance, as to the risk, cannot be alleged, not only for the reasons already stated, and for the evidences before them, and which they have not attempted to deny, but because the consignees of the G-eorgiana, at Valparaiso, in their letter of December 15th, 1857, to her captain, said to him, writing about freights, that "some charterers were offering to take the risk of the Chincha Islands, they being in possession of the revolutionary party, but that they would not advise him to accept such a char- ter." This letter, which will be found with the documents that we publish, was taken on board the Martina a vessel captured robbing guano after the revolution was entirely ended. This vessel belonged to a company formed at Valparaiso for the purposes of robbing guano, and it is very singular how the aforesaid letter was in their pos- session, unless we presume that the Georgiana was char- tered to the same company, and that the captain remitted it to prove " the risks" that he was to run, and the consequent necessity of compensating them properly. The Department of State has this letter, and we must believe that this point has been satisfactorily explained to the United States Gov- ernment. X, The official correspondence printed hereunto, and to which we earnestly call the attention of the American public and press, shows the position taken by the Peruvian Govern- ment in this question, and the authorities on which it has relied to sustain it against the demands of the United States Government, and the not less ardent desires of that govern- ment to satisfy all the requirements made in the name of a nation that Peru is in the habit of cherishing and respect- ing. Not satisfied with the intimate and unanimous convic- tion of the Cabinet, and the most prominent men of the country as to the justice of her position, and notwithstanding that the Government of Chili most unhesitatingly acknowl- edged the rights claimed by the legal Government of Peru, " declining to extend its protection to the masters or owners " of the Chilian vessels captured by the Government of Peru, u in which it recognized & perfect right to seize and confiscate " them" Peru sought the opinion of American jurists, emi- nent by their knowledge and sound judgment, as well as for their sterling integrity, and that opinion which we also pub- lish, has been a full confirmation of her views and position. The French Government, on deciding on the claims of Mr. Freraut, charterer of the American ships, or at least of one of them, has also confirmed the rights claimed by the legal Government of Peru, as will be seen by the note of Count Walewsky to the Charge d' Affaires at Lima. Under these circumstances, and however great may be the desire of General Castilla's Government to receive with regard the claims set forth by the United States, Peru could not sur- render voluntarily her rights as an independent nation, and 29 accede to the initation of a principle that would give up her future and the means of her prosperity, to the bold grasp of a parcel of speculators ; she could not assent to an invasion of sovereign rights which she is entitled to have respected by more powerful nations, so long as she is included in their number ; she could not consent to an abrogation of princi- ples of international law, confirmed by an international prac- tice of centuries, to the injury of those unfortunate countries that fight yet to obtain order and liberty. Her cause is the cause of Hispano-America, and might be the cause of the United States, if (which God forbid) internal commo- tions should most unfortunately come to disturb the peace and prosperity of a country, the honor of the present age. To judge of the results of the enforcement of the principles advanced by Mr. Buchannan in the pending question, we must divest ourselves of our power and peaceful condition, examine what an effect they would have in the United States, in case of an internal commotion, and decide, if similarly situated, the lawful government of the Union is willing to abide by the same theory, allow to the revolters rights of belligerents, and consent to the spoliation of the national property by a parcel of speculators, assisted and abetted by foreign merchant ships, whose managers know that what they are doing is against the laws of the Union. To acknowledge in a revolter belligerent rights, and by de- claring a country in a state of civil war, give to it two gov- ernments with equal authority and obligations, it is also necessary to absolve the one from the damages done by the other, and declare both irresponsible for acts not within their respective jurisdiction ; to divide the national obligations previous to the war, and claim, during the war, one-half of them from each, without right to claim the whole of them from only one; to abandon all claims from the successful 30 party for actions of the vanquished. It is in fact, in a prac- tical case, to release the liberal Government of Mexico, if victorious, from indemnity for all damages that the doings of Miramon may have caused to American citizens. Are the United States willing to pursue such a line of conduct in their foreign relations, and in their domestic dissensions ? Be it so, if they choose. They have the power, and the weak must submit ; but let them proclaim it, and let the practice confirm the theory. A principle must be weighed in all its phases before it is sustained ; once adopted, must be followed in all its consequences, as otherwise it is no principle at all. The rights that it sanctions are compen- sated by the obligations that it imposes, and the claim of the former necessarily involves the recognition of the latter. 31 XL The action of Peru, in the seizure of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, was legal, according to her own laws and the law of nations. The courts of justice that confiscated these ships acted in strict conformity to those laws. The owners or masters had the right, agreeably to the principles of international law, to complain of the capture, and defend themselves, only before those courts, and invoking the laws of the captor. They exercised this right ; there was no de- viation of justice, and they were condemned with perfect legality. The United States, then, by the law of nations, had no right to interfere, and Peru, by the same law, and by the laws of the country, had no right to alter that decision. The Government of Peru, guided by a spirit that we cannot blame, seeing its reasons unattended to, and re- marking a persistency that might lead to disagreeable re- suits, declared to the United States Government its readiness " simply to submit the question raised by the capture of the " ships Lizzie Thompson and Georgian^ to the decision of " any European nation whatever, and to leave to his Excel- " lency the President of the United States, the choice of " such power, as well as the prefixing of the time for carry- " ing the thing into effect." What has been the answer given by the President of the United States to this reason- able and equitable proposition ? He has simply insisted on his previous demands, and instructed his Minister to leave Peru, suspending all diplomatic relations between both countries. We cannot, indeed, realize why this proposal is declined, because, if Peru is in the wrong, it is not to be ex- pected that any nation in the world, and in a question with 32 the United States, would decide in her favor, and less so, on a point which, if adjudged against Peru, would give to foreign powers advantages which they did not have nor claim heretofore in their relations with countries disturbed by internal commotions. The Government of Peru knows perfectly well that it cannot expect to exert influences or weight arising from power, position, or commercial inter- course, in the arbitration of a dispute with a great nation, and believes, on the contrary, that in the present case, all the influences are on the other side ; but the question being one of principles, and having its source in the law of nations ; its decision involving the settlement of points made ques- tionable by the United States, the Peruvian Government thought, very properly, that the only expedient for an ami- cable solution, was the decision of another power, and to give an additional proof of respect for the United States, gave exclusively to the President the choice of that power. What more can be asked from that government ? A con- sideration for the relative weakness of a friendly republic, if no other reason, ought to have induced the President of the United States to accept the proposed means of settling the difficulty; and, more so, when this difficulty arises from the different interpretation given to principles generally accept- ed and observed, on their special application to a particular case, There is no national question, no insult, no breach of treaties, no wounded honor between the two countries. It is what we may call a difference of opinion between Presi- dent Buchanan and the Government of Peru ; and as we cannot presume that the former wishes to impose his opinion on the latter, unless justified by an impartial judgment, the reason for his declining the proposal of Peru is incompre* hensible. Is President Buchanan afraid that the decision might be 33 favorable to Peru ? But, then, this same fear ought to be an incitement for him to refer the question to a disinterested nation ; because the fear implies a doubt in the correctness of his position, and in such a case, to press his demands, backed by the irresistible power of the United States, signi- fies to assume a dictatorial attitude towards a country whose force arises from the strength of its rights, but that is materi- ally unable to maintain them. It has been stated that the arbitration was declined, because the question was one of damages, and reduced to dollars and cents; but it is plain that to reach this point, it is necessary to decide previously whether the United States have the right to claim such damages. The indemnity can only take place after the principle, in virtue of which is claimed, has been decided against Peru, or after Peru may have recognized the correct- ness of the principle invoked .by the United States. Peru, on the contrary, maintains that this principle is not correct, and, therefore, the question of indemnity cannot come up, until this previous point is settled. Peru has proposed a most liberal and equitable way of settling it, and unless it is required from that republic to make a discretionary sur- render, giving the character of infallibility to a position not justified by any doctrine of international law published here- tofore, it is unreasonable to assume that the pending ques- tion is one of dollars and cents. We wish it was so, because then, a few dollars more or less would bring about a solu- tion ; but, unfortunately, the question is not of money, but of national sovereignty and international law, and in this par- ticular case it is of life or death for Peru. The President of the United States will explain his reasons for declining to accept the only honorable and pacific way of settling this difference; the Senate and people of the United States will judge of the true value of these reasons, and to Congress and to this people we appeal from such a decision, fully convinced that before this august tribunal, the course of the Government of Peru will be duly appreci^ ated, and that justice will be done regardless of all motives unworthy of a noble and generous nation. XII. Before finishing the task that a desire to see justice done to a weak nation has imposed upon us, we must call public attention to the last propositions made by the United States Government to settle the question regarding the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson. A proper respect for the dignity of that government would have made desirable the suppression of that part of the official correspondence that has been pub- lished in the Times and it would have been suppressed if our advice had been taken on the subject. The question on principle had been sufficiently illustrated, and the rights of Peru maintained with a strength of argument that showed, to any unprejudiced mind, the correctness of her position, We were willing to submit that question to the judgment of the public and press, on its main points, whilst it remained within the limits of a legal controversy, without any wishes, on our part, to present the acts of the present government of the Union under a light more disadvantageous than the one given to it by the correspondence up to the time of Mr, Osma's proposition to refer it to the decision of a third power. But it is probable, that the desire of the Govern- ment of Peru to convince the world of the injustice of Mr, Clay's assertions, in attempting to charge it with the respon- 35 sibility of the rupture, has induced the said government to publish that correspondence, and this done, it is our duty to make such remarks as the same suggests, regardless of the motives that inclined us to be silent on it. Secretary Cass suggested " that the proposition to refer the " question to arbitration would be considered, provided the " Peruvian Government should previously fully indemnify the " claimants, making this appear as a spontaneous act of Peru." It is equivalent to say, that the United States wanted to have the amount of the claim, independent of its fairness or injustice. Is this proceeding in conformity with any prin- ciple of law, justice, or reason ? It seems almost incompre- hensible that the Secretary of State of a civilized nation Could, for a moment, entertain the idea of this proposition, and) full of respect as we are for the wisdom and integrity of the worthy statesman, we are willing to believe, that there has been some misunderstanding of his words. But we are not less surprised to read Mr. Clay's dispatch of the 23d of December, 1859, where he states, that "all discussion, s " regards to the principles involved in this case, and the " right of those claiming indemnity, had been ended, but that 11 he was willing to discuss about the amount claimed to " make the reductions that might be considered just and 14 convenient." So, the United States Government decides, by its own authority, that Peru is in the wrong, does not listen to any reason, is unwilling to hear any impartial opinion, and assuming that Peru must submit to its decision, has the generosity to descend to a discussion only on the amount to be paid ! ! Mr. Buchanan does not consider that Peru is a sovereign and independent nation, with equal rights to the United States, He brings her down to the condition of a vassal of his government, and bound as such to acquiesce to his will. Neither the rights of sovereignty 36 nor the law of nations need be respected with a country that has not the force to repel force, and its very weakness is a strong reason to show no consideration or friendly regard. We blush, in writing these lines, in the name of the Ameri- can people. Mr. Buchanan has, however, carried farther yet the system of scorn and humiliation followed towards Peru, as will be seen by Mr. Clay's note of the 5th of June, in which, insist- ing on his former views, demands from Peru u the recognition, "in specific terms, of her responsibility for the seizure and "confiscation of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, and " the appointment of a mixed commission to decide on the " amount of indemnity for this, and all other cases of claims "between the two countries." This proposition is a natural consequence of the principle formerly laid down by Mr. Clay, viz., "that all discussion, on the principles of the case, was "at an end." The object of the proposal is, to make Peru pay, at all hazards, and this is more clearly shown in that gentleman's substitute making " Peru pay a considerable " amount of money to the United States in settlement for all " pending claims." The Government of Peru has agreed to the appointment of the mixed commission, to which all claims should be submitted, but the actual case of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson cannot be in a state to be so submitted to that commission until it is decided, on the question of principle, against that government. The United States pre- tend that Peru should consent to abandon the legal point, but to this pretension it is impossible for her to give an assent, even by implication, because by so doing she would establish a most fatal precedent against her rights of sovereignty. Mr. Clay's substitute cannot be considered but as a mean trap, unworthy of a diplomat, to make the Government of 3? Peru acknowledge, by implication, the right of a revolter to dispose of the national property, and of American citizens to speculate, with perfect security, with whatever filibuster may take possession of the guano deposits. To obtain these privileges, it is well worthy to be generous in the case that is used as a pretext for the purpose, and therefore he could consent to a discussion to reduce the amount claimed. What a difference between Mr. Clay's and Secretary Cass' propo- sitions ! ! The latter, wrong as he was, consented to doubt of the principle, provided money was paid to satisfy the claimants. He, at least, gave to Peru the benefit of a possi- bility of her rights being recognized and affirmed, although biased by a payment that might contradict that recognition. The former (Mr. Clay), the friend of Peru, proposed to obtain, under cover of a generous feeling, an abandonment of those rights, and to establish a precedent most pernicious to her future, "by consenting to reduce the amount of the claims." The public can judge if we were right, when stating our earnest wish to have suppressed that part of the correspond- ence that we have slightly mentioned in the last pages, Following the same desire, we have endeavored to trace only the main lines, sparing to ourselves the feeling of disgust that causes a conduct so unworthy of the representatives of a great people in their questions with a sister republic. Most fortunately for Peru, and for the credit and dignity of the United States, the government of General Castilla, re^ lying on the integrity of the United States Senate, atid on the sympathy of the American people, has sustained respectfully, but firmly, the rights of Peru without being influenced by the threatening insinuations of those represen^ tatives, and as we have stated before^ we hope and trust that "justice will be done regardless of all motives unworthy of " a noble and generous nation*" 39 DOCUMENTS. (Translation from the Spanish.) LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES, ) LIMA, February 9th, 1858. J The undersigned, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America, has to-day had the honor to receive the note which his Excellency the Minister of Foreign Affairs has addressed to him, under date of the 3d, in reply to one from the undersigned of the 1st instant. With respect to the important error which H. E. has attributed to the undersigned, under the supposition that H. E. had informed him that the captains of the American vessels seized by the Tumbes would be discharged from prison so soon as their declar- ations were taken, the undersigned can only say, that such was the deduction which he made from his conversation with H. E. at their interview of the 30th of the last month ; a deduction which the undersigned might suppose was exact, when we consider that the capture of the aforesaid vessels was made under special instructions of H. E. ; and that the decree of the 30th ultimo, ordering that their trials should be passed to the Collector of the Custom-House of Callao, as judge of contrabands, seizures, or confiscations, was signed by H. E. as Minister of the Treasury. All this led the undersigned to believe that H. E. exercised a discretionary power in this matter, certainly if viewed in the light of the retention or liberty of the prisoners. But, be it as it may, the undersigned will ever regret having misunderstood any word or expression used by H. E., more particu- larly in matters of so much importance. But the demand which the undersigned made in his note of the 1st, that the captains of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana should be liberated, after making their declaration, was not founded entirely on some word which might have transpired at the aforesaid interview of H. E. with the undersigned, but in higher reasons, which were expressed in his note, as follows: that no just and sufficient reason existed for their arrest and imprisonment. Nevertheless, before entering upon the discussion of the principal question, the under- signed deems it his duty to assure H. E. that he is right in supposing that the under- signed was not well informed of the liberation of Captains Wilson, Reynolds, and L. A. Hamilton, when he addressed his note of the first. After these preliminary observations, the undersigned will continue his examination of the question of the capture of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana by the national war-steamer Tumbes, on the 24th of January last; and he has the honor to inform H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs, that notwithstanding the presence of those vessels in Pabellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos, engaged in loading guano, may be in time of peace and order considered as under the control of the republic, in the present state of the country, and under the circumstances in which the capture was made by the Tumbes^ the undersigned believes he can demonstrate : 40 let. That neither said vessels nor their captains were engaged in a " scandalous and (C criminal contraband of guano, in contravention of the fiscal laws, commercial regulations, "' and coastwise ordinances of Peru." 3d. That the capture of the American vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana by the Tumbes, in accordance with the instructions of H. E. the Minister of the Treasury in Lima, was not effected with perfect right, and, consequently, was irregular. 3d. That the manner of effecting this capture, and the transfer to the port of Callao, was unjustifiable, cruel (not to say barbarous), and illegal. The undersigned proposes to examine these points separately, and whatever observ- ations he may deem it necessary to make in treating them, he begs that H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs to be assured that they are made with all the respect and consideration due the Exmo Council of Ministers and the people of Peru. The undersigned deems it necessary to make this explanation, because the matter in question is very delicate ; and, in its discussion, he does not wish to wound the suscepti, bility of others. The undersigned will now proceed to demonstrate that the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, and their captains, cannot be justly accused of having been engaged in a criminal and scandalous contraband of guano in Pabellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos. By examining the facts appearing by the declarations of Captains Wilson and Reynolds, certified copies of which the undersigned has the honor to annex.it will be seen that both went to the port of Iquique for the purpose of engaging in a legal traffic. The Lizzie Thompson sailed directly from San Francisco, State of California, with a cargo of barley for Iquique; and the Georgiana, from Townsend, Washington Territory, in the United States, with a cargo of lumber for Valparaiso ; at this place the consignees of the latter sold it, conditioning for its delivery in Iquique, or at a place in Peru called " Mala." There was no decree which prohibited their going to Iquique, and their cargoes were of innocent articles of commerce. On arriving at this port, they found a Custom-House regularly established, with its Collector and other port officers, who visited their vessels in due form, and they then entered, which they could not have done without permission. The captains of the vessels there found local authorities de facto, in possession of, and exercising their jurisdiction, and they were obliged to recognize them, as well as their acts, since the aforesaid vessels were within the limits of Peru. It did not belong to them to enquire in what manner the persons exercising authority in the port fulfilled their duties neither could they call in question their right to exercise authority in Iquique ; in the same manner that it was not permitted, either to them or to other vessels, to deny or call in question the jurisdiction of the Custom-House in Callao, and of the employees of that port. If they had contravened any of the regulations of the port, or of the Custom-House, they would undoubtedly have been responsible to the actual authorities of Iquique. After entering the port, the Lizzie Thompson left her cargo there. The Georgiana obtained a license from the Custom-House to discharge hers at Mala. The captain of the first, after discharging his vessel, was solicited by the Consular Agent of the French Empire, Mr. Federico Freraut, for her charter, and that she should take a cargo of guano in Pabellon de Pica or Punta de Lobos, a contract for which, as the aforesaid Consular Agent informed the captain, had been celebrated with the Peruvian Government. Captain Wilson, before accepting the freight, went to the Custom-House authorities of Iquique to enquire if he would be permitted to load in those places ; and they not only told him yes, but that they would grant a license for the vessel to go there. The charter- party was made immediately thereafter with the French Consular Agent ; and the Lizzie Thompson, after having obtained a license in due form to load in Pabellon de Pica, or Punta ds Lobos, was cleared by the Custom-House of Iquique on the 19th of December last. The captain of the Georgiana followed the same course, received identical information from the authorities, and chartered his vessel to Don Jose Santos Ossn, who acted as agent of the house of Lequellec & Bordes, of Valparaiso, and the freight was in the same manner to load guano at " Pabellon de Pica " and " Punta de Lobo.s." Having ob- tained a license from the authorities so to proceed, she was cleared in form by the Cus- tom-House of Iquiqne, on the 29th of December, 1857. It is, therefore, evident that the captains of the aforesaid vessels went to Tquique with the sole object of leaving their cargoes, and having accomplished that, they thought of chartering. They did not go to that port in search of cargoes of guano, since if that had been their object, it would have been expressed in their original letters, sent from San, Francisco and Townsend ; and would, in all probability, have made their contracts for the purchase and delivery of the guano, before going to Iquique. Such was the course, as the undersigned understands, with all the vessels which loaded guano at the Chincha Islands during the period in which those deposits were under the control of the revolu- tionary party headed by General Vivanco. The captains of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana could not consequently suppose that they engaged in an illicit traffic in load- ing guano at "Pabellon de Pica" and " Punta de Lobos," while, on the contrary, they had reason to think that their commerce was legal, judging by the offic'al information, and the acts of the authorities established in Iquique. Moreover, the captain of the Lizzie Thompson could not imagine that a Consular Agent of the Emperor of France would engage in an illegal traffic, making him his accomplice. The same remark may be made respecting the captain of the Georgiana, with the only difference that she was chartered by a person in whom the consular character was not vested. Again, the cases provided for by the decrees of the Government of Peru respecting guano, refer to vessels which have gone to the islands without any license for the pur- pose of taking guano clandestinely. At all events, the responsibilites, if any, belong to the local authorities of Iquique, Pabellon de Pica, arid Punta de Lobos, or the charterers of the vessels; but, certainly, not the vessels themselves, or their captains, because there is nothing clearer than the legal principle that possession implies authority, and if the distorted interpretation of an article is proved or demonstrated, the innocent instru- ment cannot be called to answer criminally. These reasons seem sufficient to the undersigned to prove that the captains, to whom reference is made, cannot in justice be considered as criminals. The undersigned is of opinion that the only valid place for the seizure effected accord- ing to the laws, is that within which jurisdiction is exercised; and that this may be per- fect it is necessary that the party exercising it be in actual possession of the place. And now, it is very well known that for nearly two years the peace of the republic of Peru has been disturbed by a revolution, and that the party opposed to the government at Lima, has been in possession of various parts of the country alternately, the city of Arequipa being the nucleus of this party, as it probably is at the present moment. There exist, consequently, in the centre of the republic two hostile parties, one of which defends the government of Lima, and the other aims to substitute it by another adminis- tration, by means of an outbreak. It is undeniable that the grand principle upon which all republican institutions are based, is that all power is vested in the people, and emanates from them : they frame the constitution of the state, and appoint or select the executive part of the government. The suffrage is the regular and constitutional manner of expressing this election ; but, unfortunately, in Peru the changes which have succeeded one another in their adminis- trations have had their origin in revolution. These revolutions have been commenced, almost always, by means of an armed insurrection, in which the chief, after having se- cured the support of a certain number of partisans, has been proclaimed by them or has proclr.imed himself president ad interim, under different names ; has formed a ministry, jued decrees, and exercised other acts of executive authority. The necessary result of these acts has been civil war, and during the many which have disturbed the peace of the nation, the revolutionary parties have not hesitated to appropriate the property of the nation to sustain their cause. The party of Vivanco has followed the same course during the present revolution. The undersigned is very far from wishing to express any opinion in regard to the merits of such a system, and his reflections have no other ob- ject than to call the attention of H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs to the fact that Peru is in a state of civil war. And now, according to the modern doctrines of inter- national right, the contending parties enjoy all the rights of belligerents, and the due respect of neutral nations. In virtue of these rights, the party opposed to the existing government has always taken possession of the available and tangible property of the nation, as a means of raising funds; has issued vales (bonds), pledging for their pay- ment the property and resources of the country; has seized the money deposited in the Custom-Houses, discounted the notes signed by merchants in payment of duties on mer- chandise imported, and has exercised other acts of sovereignty which, at a later period, have generally been recognized by the Peruvian nation on the re-establishment of peace in the country. Such has been the case during the present revolution, in which there have been entries of merchandise, alternately by the government and by the revolution, in the Custom-Houses of Islay, Payta, Huancacho, and San Jose de Lambayeque. The same thing has occurred with respect to the guano. This substance is the property of the Peruvian nation, and yet Vivanco, while he was in possession of the Chincha Islands, sold and expoited the guano from those deposits, notwithstanding the prohibitory de- crees of the Government of Lima ; and the undersigned understands that the sentences of the tribunals in Chile and Belgium have been unfavorable to the reclamations made by the government against the cargoes of guano shipped in this manner for those coun- tries. The undersigned will not enter upon the question as to whether there is or is not claim to those cargoes, because that belongs to the judicial authorities of the countries to which they have been sent, but what he holds is, that the party of the opposition in Peru, engaged as it is in a civil war, is as such entitled to all the rights of war. And one of those rights, without doubt, is the jurisdiction maintained over the terri- tory which it occupied, and the change of local authorities, and exercise of official acts, as the consequence of this possession and jurisdiction. When the party of Vivanco took possession of that part of Peru which embraces the port of Jquique, Pabellon de Pica, and Punta de Lobos, the representatives of that party established local authorities, and occupied these last points, which, foim the principal portion thereof, placing soldiers upon them. Consequently, during this time the au- thority and jurisdiction of the government of Lima were without effect. Under these circumstances, the American vessels Georgia.ua and Lizzie Thompson ar- rived at the port of Iquique. As belonging to a foreign and neutral country, it was not for them to question the Government and its local authority, much less when it was openly respected by H. B. M.'s war steamer Retribution. The captains of these vessels consequently accepted the charters which were offered them, and sailed for Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica, with their licenses issued by the Custom-IIouse of Iquique, which port was, at the period when the capture was effected by the Tumbes, under the contiol and jurisdiction of the revolutionary party of Peru. The capture executed by the instructions of the Minister of the Treasury in Lima was not, therefore, in the conception of the undersigned, a perfect and regular right, much less when we consider the fact that the Government of Lima was deprived of its jurisdiction in that part of the republic. 3d. The undersigned considers that the manner in which the seizure or capture of the vessels, and their transfer to Callao, was effected, was unjustifiable, cruel, and illegal. Referring to the declarations of Captains Wilson and Reynolds, it will be seen that the Lizzie Thompson arrived at Pabellon de Pica on the 25th of December last, and found there a Governor, a Port Captain, subaltern, employees, and thirty or more soldiers of 43 the revolutionary party ; that hie vessel was examined at anchor by the Port Captain, and that he commenced, on the 4th of January, to load with guano, which article was delivered by the authorities on the beach. Farther on, Captain Wilson adds, that during his stay at Pabellon de Pica, the place was twice visited by the Peruvian war steamer Apurimac, and " that a small Peruvian steamer, also armed, was there at anchor, almost ' all the time that the vessel remained." He also adds, that both vessels visited his, and examined his papers, saying that they were in due form. The Georgiana arrived at Punta de Lobos on the 3d of January, and began to load with guano on the llth, it being supplied on the beach by the authorities, as her cap- tain has informed the undersigned. It does not appear that either of the two vessels was provided with arms of any kind which they would probably have procured if they had been prepared for any contraband operation. This proves, more and more, that the captains considered themselves as neutrals, and in the exercise of a legal commerce. Further en, the declarations of the captains show, that the Tumbes arrived at Pabellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos on the 24th of the last month, in the morning, very early, and sent her boats with armed men to take possession of them, and place them under her control. The captain of the Lizzie Thompson declares, that the official and people of the Tumbes conducted themselves in a violent manner, and on boarding his vessel, the sol- diers aimed their muskets at him, and threatened him with death if he opposed the least resistance. The Georgiana, which is the smaller vessel, and whose crew was composed of nine persons, was also boarded, and her captain forced to go on board the Tumbes, where he was told by the commander that if he did not immediately comply with his orders, he would destroy his vessel, for which purpose he had the cannons doubly charged. Captains Wilson and Reynolds declare, at the same time, that they were taken from their vessels, and conducted, as prisoners, on board the Tumbes ; that their crews were forcibly taken from their vessels, and put iu their boats, remaining abandoned on the sterile and inhospitable coast, without provisions or water. r lhe crew of the boat of the Lizzie Thompson were also deprived of her mast and sails, and when they went alongside of the Tumbes, they were repulsed, and told to ask assistance from the armed men in possession of their vessel ; returning there, the boat was fired upon by the sol- diers, and one of the men wounded with a knife. And thus, eight men of the Lizzie Thompson, and six or seven of the Georgians, were abandoned, without provisions or water, at a distance of forty or fifty miles from any point where they could procure the necessary assistance, since Iquique itself is unprovided with other than water distilled in the city. The idea of destroying merchant vessels, and leaving their owners in such a situation, is so repulsive, that the undersigned cannot believe that the commander of the Tumbes had instructions from his government so to proceed. Such conduct can in no manner be justified. If the vessels be considered as neutrals in the territory of a party at war, their capture is illegal, since they committed no fault which authorized their de- tention. If, on the other hand, they were seized for contravening the fiscal laws, their crews should at least have been left on board, since they were in no wise responsible, and, moreover, in executing the capture, the accused could not be deprived of the presence of persons who might serve for their defence, or their cause. Furthermore, if the commander of the Tumbes had orders to destroy the vessels, as he told their captains, he could not execute them, since they were contrary to law, be- cause, being American property, the Government of Peru had no right of absolute con- trol over them until they were condemned by a competent tribunal. Such is the law in the cases of seizures made in time of war, and particularly, with vessels seized according to the laws of all civilized nations. For these reasons, and others easily deduced, the undersigned in his note to H. E., under the date of the 1st inst., asked, as a right, the liberation of the captains of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana. Considering, therefore, that the capture of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana, the first at Pabellon de Pica, and the second at Punta de Lobos, on the 24th of January last, by the Peruvian war steamer Tumbes, under instructions from the Minister of the Treasury of Peru, was unjustifiable and without perfect right ; the undersigned solemnly protests against the capture and detention of the said vessels, for which reason the un- dersigned notifies H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Peru, that he holds the Peru- vian Government responsible for all the consequences of that capture and detention, to the United States, as well as to the owners of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana ; and also for all the losses or damages suffered by said owners, and captains, and crews of said vessels, in consequence of their capture and detention by the Peruvian Govern- ment. The undersigned has the honor on this occasion to renew to H. E. the Minister of For- eign Affairs, the assurance of his highest consideration. (Signed) J. RANDOLPH CLAY. REPUBLIC OF PFRU, Department of Foreign Affairs. LIMA, 18th February 1858. The undersigned has submitted to the Council of Ministers the contents of the note of H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Pelipotentiary of the United States, of the 9th inst., referring to the seizure and proceedings against the American vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, and has received special instructions to reply to H. E. in the terms following: The tenor of the aforesaid note of Mr. Clay has produced great surprise and profound regret to the Council, by the form and terms in which it is conceived, the ground assigned for it, and finally, by the object to which it is directed ; and before entering upon the matter, the undersigned would recall to H. E. Mr. Clay, certain act?, the merits and con- spicuity of which suffice to show that the Government of Peru could not, and ought not, to have anticipated such a communication from H. E., while the undersigned cordially assures II. E. Mr. Clay, that in the course of the delicate communication which he is obliged to make in behalf of the grave rights whose illustration and defense fall to his charge, it is his intent to conduct the same with the consideration and respect so justly due to the high position of the cabinet at Washington, and their worthy representative, to wliom the undersigned addresses himself. A few days after the undersigned had assumed charge of the Departments of Foreign Af- fairs, Treasury , and Commerce, and while the Chincha Islands were under the control of the revolted naval forces, he conferred with H. E. the Provisional President, upon the necessary means for making known in the republic, and in all countries procuring guano from Peru, the firm and decided resolution which the government had adopted, to follow up by all the means in its power the illegal and fraudulent exportation of that fertilizer which might be made by force, in virtue of null and aggressive contracts made with the rebels or their agents. For tin's purpose there were reprinted in the official periodical, El Peruano, of the 27th of February of last year, Number 48, Vol. 32, a series of the principal laws and decrees relative to the regulations for the sale and traffic in said fertilizer, and penalty incurred by those infringing the same ; and on the 28th of the same month, the under- nddn-sfi'd a circular to the Diplomatic Agents and Consuls of the Republic in n countries, to the end that they might give due publicity to the laws and decrees referred to, to avoid in this manner even the most trival pretext of good faith which the contrabandists might set up. In fact, the republication was made in France, England, Belgium, Spain, the United States, and the Spanish American countries, it being \\orthy of note tliat in Paris, by authority of H. E. Count Walewski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Empire, the publication of the same was directed to be made in the official gazette El Monitor ; neither in consequence of this publication, or of the reiterated manifesta- tions which the undersigned had occasion to make to the Diplomatic Corps resident in this capital, of the intention of the government to proceed in strict conformity with the aforesaid laws and decrees, to prosecute and seize the contraband guano vessels, was the slightest observation made in the way of objection, since, without doubt, all recog- nized the perfect right which sustained the only legitimate and recognized government of the republic in defending the national property, threatened and invaded by the most scandalous vandalism. The vessels of war Loa, Tumbes, Yzcuchaca, ffuaroz, and Guise, which were at the Chincha Islands, having been restored to obedience to the government, all the foreign shipping lying there, and loading guano under contract with the rebels, precipitately fled, recognizing by this single act, both their culpability, and the right of the government to follow and seize them a circumstance all the more notable, when, at this juncture, there were foreign vessels of war at the Islands, and among them the American corvette John Adams, on whose protection the fugitive shipping would have relied, had they not been clearly convinced that they had no right to such protection, and that they would not sus- tain speculations in every view reprobated and criminal. The government having sent the war steamer Ucayali to the island, for the purpose of reinstating the legal authorities, and re-establishing the order which the rebels had disturbed, on the 13th of May her commander made known a message which he had received from the captain of the John Adams, "that whatever the flag of a vessel in " which a North American citizen was loading guano, it would be protected by him." On account of this, the undersigned, desirous of avoiding any disagreeable question with the Government of the Union, communicated to H. E. Mr. Clay, at an interview sought for the purpose, the contents of the communication from the commander of the Ucayali, with other information, setting forth the grave abuses committed by the commander of the John Adwns, at the islands. At this interview the undersigned also laid before H. E. the opinion given by the lawyers of the United States, in reply to queries addressed to them by the consignee of guano residing in Baltimore, touching the right of the Peru- vian Government to claim and recover the cargoes of this fertilizer taken under author- ity from the rebels, and imported to the markets of the Union, which opinion, in brief, is conceived in the following terms : " Theoretically considered, this question is very simple. The Peruvian Government, " dejure et de facto, the only one which can appear, as such government, before foreign " powers, is to-day represented by the Liberator Grand Marshal D. Ramon Castilla. " Mr. Vivauco, who has no possession of public business, who has no assistance from " the constituted powers of the state, who exercises no authority in the greater part of " the territory of the republic, is not, and cannot be regarded in any manner as de "facto exercising the executive power of Peru. That he has possession of two or three " cities or provinces, and that he has taken some vessels, are of no importance in a legal '' view ; his acts are not respected by other nations or their tribunals, nor have they " more validity than would be given to the acts of any other person who by force ob- " tained possession of any part of the Peruvian territory, and disposed of the national " property, on which he could lay his hands. Consequently, an agent of the Govern- " ment of Peru, diplomatic or consular, has the right to embargo or recover the cargoes "of guano which are taken from the republic by means of sales or contracts, of every "nature, made by D. Manuel Ignacio Vivanco." And H. E. Mr. Clay, conducting with the rectitude and enlightenment of which he had given so many proofs, reprobated the conduct of the commander of the John Adams, promising the undersigned that he would obtain from his government, opportune and proper reparation, recognized the right of the Government of the undersigned to seize and prosecute the vessels which went to load guano without license, and the requisites required by the laws of the country; and H. E., in corroborating by his sanction the aforesaid opinion of the American lawyers, carried his delicate condescension to the ex- treme of sending his secretary, Mr. Caverley, a gentleman versed in, and well under- standing the legislation of his country, to the end that he should amplify and ratify said opinion, as in a conversation with the undersigned he did, in a lucid and satisfactory manner. At a later period, on account of the publication of the Convention of the 21st of M;y, of last year, celebrated by the Government of Peru with the Charges d Affaires of Eng- land and France, and of having stipulated that they should go into effect from the date of its signature, that is, without the necessity of previous ratification, H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary asked an interview with the undersigned with the exclusive object of inquiring " if, in case American vessels went to load guano, " at the deposits of the republic, without the competent license and requisites required " by existing laws, they would be captured, or simply ordered off by the naval forces of ' England and France ?" And the undersigned having replied, referring entirely to the terms of the Convention, by which it was simply stipulated that they should prevent the illegal and fraudulent exportation of guano, H. E. Mr. Clay concluded by the formal declaration, "that he only recognized the right of Peruvian vessels to capture those of "America which went without license from the government and the legal requisites, to " the guano deposits of the Republic." From the facts aforesaid, we necessarily deduce the conclusion that foreign governments, their agents, and especially and particularly H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States, have respected the perfect right which the legiti- mate and recognized Government of Peru profess to follow, and capture the vessels which, without the competent license and requisites required by the existing laws, are found engaged in the illicit and fraudulent importation of a fertilizer which constitues the principal branch of national resource. And it is to be noted, that in sustaining and preserving intact so undisputed a right, not only is the independence and sovereignty of the State secured, but, so to express it, her existence, her future, and her credit, depend upon it ; since if which it is to be hoped may never be the lamentable precedent of impunity and exemption in favor of -the accomplices and abettors in the fraudulent and unjustifiable exportation of guano, under the protection of the heads of a faction, or of the commanders of revolted vessels, acting against the republic, should be recognized, very soon would that source of wealth be dissipated, which is pledegl to the payment of the domestic and foreign debt, and which, at the same time, constitutes the guarantee of commerce, the source of industry, and the principle of the future advancement of Peru, and hence, its preserva- tion being of general interest. Thus, there is no impropriety in the assertion that the reclamation of H. E. Mr. Clay has caused great surprise and profound regret to the Council of Ministers, since it might have been anticipated from any one rather from H. E., if attention be paid to the afore- named antecedents ; and notwithstanding that they alone would tend to weaken argu- ments which are repugnant to the previous convictions of their respectable author, as he has thought proper to produce them without regard to his own judgment, the under- signed will perform the duty of answering them. The cardinal points are these, on which H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary founds the protest which he has been pleased to make in his note of the 9th instant, to wit : 47 1st. "That neither of the vessels or their captains were engaged in a scandalous and '' criminal contraband of guano, infringing the fiscal laws, regulations of commerce, and " of coast trade of Peru." 2d. " That the capture of the North American vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, " by the Tumbes, by virtue of instructions from the Minister of the Treasury in Lima, " was not of clear right, and consequently was irregular." 3d. " And finally, that the mode of enforcing this confiscation or capture, and their "being taken to the port of Callao, was unjustifiable, cruel, not to say barbarous, and " illegal." The undersigned, at the risk of being considered diffuse, will endeavor to successfully confute those propositions. Whatever may have been the point of departure of the American vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, and the circumstances which took place in the making of their last charter parties, it is a well-known and unquestionable fact that those vessels, when they were captured by the Tumbes, were lying at Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica, loading guano for exports to foreign parts ; and this fact, without the necessity of much commentary, is more than sufficient to prove that said vessels and their captains were engaged in a scandalous and criminal contraband, infringing the fiscal laws, regula- tions of commerce, and of coast trade of Peru. In fact, by the fiscal laws promulgated in the republic and republished in the Peruano the approach of foreign vessels to the national deposits of guano is expressly prohibited ; the loading and sale of guano is in like manner reserved to the consignees contracting with the government, who alone can load in said islands, with the obligation to take out previous special licenses from the government, and sail from the port of Callao, observing the other formalities prescribed by the aforesaid laws, which impose the penalty of confiscation, besides other very severe corporal punishments to those in- fringing them. And the provisions of these same laws are reproduced, in brief, in art. 213, chapter 23d of the existing regulations of commerce. By articles 208 and 209 of this regulation, it is ordered " Vessels will be confiscated which anchor in other ports than those opened to foreign commerce;" in articles 1st, 3d, and 4th, if, in addition to anchoring, they disembark or receive correspondence, persons, or merchandise. If, then, as is true and evident, the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana were surprised loading guano at prohibited deposits without license from the government, and that they had anchored and disembarked their crews in ports which are not opened to foreign commerce, it is clear that those vessels and their captains were engaged in a scandalous and criminal contraband of guano, infringing the fiscal laws, regulations of commerce, and of the coast trade of Peru. The undersigned will undertake in due course to refute the feeble arguments with which H. E. Mr. Clay aims to exculpate the aforesaid captains. The perfect right with which the capture of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana were executed by virtue of instructions from the Peruvian Government, issued by the proper medium, the department of the treasury, (and not simply of the Minister, as H. E. Mr. Clay, being misinformed, supposes), is derived from diverse and just actions which simultaneously have provoked and authorized this capture. In fact the captured vessels have not only committed the common offence of a fiscal contraband, but, violating the strict neutrality to which they were pledged, out of re- spect to their flag, they have been receivers of national property, criminally and iniquit^ ously usurped and fraudulently obtained; they have lent their co-operation and assist- ance to the rebels who have risen against the only legitimate government recognized as such by that of their nation, because the trifling product of those depredations was em- ployed in procuring provisions, military stores, money, and articles contraband of war for the revolted ship Apurnnac ; they have loaded guano from prohibited deposits, and have anchored and trafficed in ports which are not opened to foreign commerce. Thus the capture of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana was clearly right, not only on account of the injury and offence they have committed against the republic, assaulting her property or infringing her laws, but by the violation of their neutrality, converting themselves into actual enemies. The sovereign power which independent states possess to regulate foreign commerce in their territories, and to fix penalties for the observance of the same, being an axiom of international law, as is also the power by which the sovereign alone can dispose of national property, and the exercise of sovereignty in these countries which are ruled by the democratic system, belonging properly and exclusively to the legislature, reserving to the executive the duty of enforcing the regulations of commerce and laws relative to the alienation of national property ; the perfect right of the Government of Peru can- not be called in question, when it proceeded to order the capture of these offending ves- sels, in observance of those regulations and laws which have had legislative sanction. To deny, or even to doubt this right, would be equivalent to a denial of the sovereignty and independence of the Peruvian nation ; and the undersigned cannot conceive that the circumspect and upright representative of the government founded by the great Wash- ington could have entertained the intention of inflicting upon a sister and friendly re- public the greatest injury which could be directed against an independent state an in- jury which would affect all civilized nations directly interested in the preservation, intact, of their highest rights. Nevertheless such is the deduction which might be drawn from the disastrous principle which H. E. Mr. Clay labors to establish, attributing to the commander of a revolted vessel the power of abolishing, de facto, the fiscal laws and commercial regulations of the republic, authorizing by this violation the most unjustifiable, treacherous, and in- iquitous depredation of national property, while principle sustains the possession of the perfect right by the Government of Peru to capture the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, surprised in so illicit a traffic. Before proceeding with the discussion it is proper to rectify some statements set forth by H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary, and from which almost all his arguments spring. It is not true that on the arrival of the Lizzie TJiompson and Georgiana at the port of Iquique, they there found a Custom-House established in due form, while it is a public and notorious fact stated in the papers, and which could not have been unknown to H. E. Mr. Clay, that from the moment the ship Apurimac took possession of that port, the collector of that Custom-House, with all the employees under him, abandoned it, coming to this capital, where they still are; and if it is intended to classify as a Custom-House established in due form that which was only a poor farce, performed bv the military chief of a revolted vessel, who had no other support than that which he obtained by the fire of his cannons, it is certainly an opinion against which the undersigned hastens to protest in the most efficacious and energetic manner. And the expression of that opinion is so much more grave and transcendental, as being founded on the possibility of the existence of inferior authorities de facto, such as the most distinguished writers have not mentioned, in dealing of government de facto a distinction which the undersigned makes, not because he would recognize as a govern- ment de facto the leader of a faction reduced to the narrow limits of the city of Arequipa, but because the so-called Custom-House established in due form in the port of Iquique, to which H. E. Mr. Clay refers, was not constituted even by that leader, but by D. Felipe Rivaa, comrnander-in-chief of the revolted naval forces. And can the enlightened representative of a nation, among the most elevated in the scale of civilization, pretend that that chief had the power to abolish the fiscal laws and the commercial regulations, and to dispose of national property, usurping the loftiest functions of sovereignty ? Can he pretend that null and offensive acts of so spurious an origin may produce legal effects ? But there is more ; the licenses obtained by the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana to load guano at the " Punta de Lobos " and " Pabellon de Pica " were issued by D. Felipe Rivas, the so-called commander-in-chief of the navy ; and could the captains of those vessels ignore the fact that the regulations of commerce prohibited access to the guano deposits, and to ports not open to foreign commerce ? Certainly not ; because they could not be ignorant of the mercantile laws and custom-house regulations of the country of their destination, and because, if such ignorance be admitted as an exception, all the ordinances and fiscal statutes would be brought to the ground, and contraband would be authorized by impunity. It is true, and the undersigned is pleased to believe that H. E. Mr. Clay will recognize this truth, that it was not within the sphere of a foreign captain to interfere in the qual- ification of authorities existing in the republic, but while it was not only permitted, it was obligatory upon them, to know the fiscal laws, the regulation of commerce and customs, because it was their positive duty to observe and comply with them. Where then is the law, decree, or resolution which annuls the aforesaid provisions rel- ative to the exportation and sale of guano, the place from which it is permitted to ex- tract it, ports open to foreign commerce, &c., &c. ? Certainly it cannot be found ; nor has the same leader, Don Manuel Ignacio Vivanco, in the extravagance of his pretensions, gone to the extreme of dictating such resolutions. The examples adduced by H. E. Mr. Clay, relative to custom-house clearances, dis- count of notes, and disposal of public moneys, which have taken place under the rule of the rebels, are in no manner applicable to the case in question ; as they were done under force and coercion, and observing the laws and fiscal regulations and of customs, although the authority in person was illegitimate, and which will in due time be held responsible before the nation. The undersigned cannot pass unnoticed the allusion which H. E. the Envoy Extraor- dinary and Minister Plenipotentiary has been pleased to make to the internal dissensions which unfortunately have agitated this country, so worthy of a better fate. And since H. E. has understood that his high mission and character do not authorize him to inter- fere in domestic politics, the undersigned confines himself to reminding H. E. that if, as he declares, popular suffrage is the finest fountain of democratic governments, such was the origin of the provisional government created by the eminently popular revolution of 1854, which was then founded on the constitution of the republic, and now sustained by the vote of the people, who have risen in mass to put down the hydra of rebellion, and of whose heroic efforts H. E. Mr. Clay has had ocular demonstration, in the conflict of the 22d of April last, in Callao. H. E. should also have taken into account that this eminently democratic government is the only one recognized and cordially congratulated by that of the American Union : is the only one to which H. E. has addressed himself to ask and obtain the reparation due to his fellow-citizens ; and that with this same government he has adjusted and celebrated international conventions, and that it is this government whose authority the citizens of the Union must respect. In fine the perfect right of the Peruvian Government to capture the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana has not only its origin in the principles of universal justice and inter- national laws, to which the undersigned refers, but also in the express provisions of the existing treaty of July, 1851, which form a positive right, and in which, according to ar- ticle 9th, " the regulations of the coasting trade are respectively reserved to the partic- " ular laws of either party," and according to article 22d "it is only permitted that their " vessels shall frequent the coasts, ports, and places, in which foreign commerce is per- " mitted," and according to article 1st not only was neutrality stipulated, but perfect 50 friendship ou the part of the government of the Union and its citizens towards that of Peru. In relation to the manner in which the capture of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgians and their conveyance to the ports of Callao were effected, H. E. Mr. Clay, misled, no doubt, by sinister information, or carried away by his zeal in the defence of his fellow, citizens, has deviated from the temperate tone, from the reserve and caution which have so strongly recommended him, when lie goes so far as to characterize them as unjustifi* able, cruel (not to say barbarous), and illegal. Such definitions, the more grave the higher the source from which they proceed, should not have been ventured upon, unless sustained by evident proofs of the abuses charged ; but if H. E. considers as such abuse the act of leaving on shore the crews, which, without great danger, the Tumbes could neither bring nor keep in custody, if that act be exaggerated, and in certain degree misrepresented, supposing that said crews were abandoned on a deserted coast, without resources, whereas, as H. E. con* fesses, there existed there an establishment, with thirty soldiers naturally well supplied, for the loading of guano; and that moreover, as can be proved if necessary, the com- mander of the Tiunbes left for the same crew small boats and abundant provisions, with the assistance of which they started without difficulty for the port of Arica, where they arrived on the 28th of last month, and after being assisted with the allowance of four reales per day to each individual, they were sent by the Prefect of Moquequa to Callao ; and if, to aggravate unmerited charges, the instructions issued to the commander of the Tumbes be commented upon, and which, belonging to the private affairs of the domestic administration, are not under the control, inspection, or censure of a foreign power ; the undersigned, as a full reply, assures H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Pleni- potentiary that, in the manner in which the capture was effected, there has been no disregard to the principles of humanity, in the exercise of which the Government of Peru, and all her people, stand on a par with the most civilized nations, but that it was effected with the precautions and measures which are practised and customary among all nations under similar circumstances. In conclusion, the undersigned would cite to H. E. Mr. Clay the repeated decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States, by which foreign bottoms might be followed and seized, even at sea, and carried to American ports for proper trial, for offences against the laws of the State, committed within its territory : decisions are recorded in Cranclts Reports, vol. 6th, page 281, and which seal the conviction of the justice with which the Government of Peru has proceeded, in the capture and trial of the Lizzie Thompson and Georyiana ; as for the rest, the degree of culpability of the captains, and the peimlties which they may have incurred, are matters of the judgment in course, and in which the executive power cannot interfere, but abide by the result. In virtue of the foregoing established propositions, the Council of Ministers, in charge of the executive power of Peru, declare: that they do not consider legal, -well-grounded nor admissible, the protest of H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipoten- tiary of the United States ; that they sustain the perfect right with which the capture and trial of the aforesaid vessels has been effected ; and that, which is not anticipated from the integrity and ability of H. E. Mr. Clay, should he insist on sustaining that pro- test, the Government of Peru, strong in the assurance of the justice of her position, will appeal directly to the magnanimous Government of the United States, confiding in its undoubted justice and wisdom to obtain the recognition of that right, and consequent reparation for said protest, without entertaining the slightest fear that their expectation would be frustrated. 'J he undersigned reiterates to H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipo- tentiary the sentiments of liis distinguished consideration. MANUEL ORTIZ DE ZEVALLOS. To H. E, the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the U. S. 51 (Translated from the Spanish.} LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES, ) LIMA, March 9th, 1858. j The undersigned, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States, has had the honor to receive, on the 19th ultimo, the note which H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Peru addressed to him under date of the 18th of that month. Before considering the arguments employed by H. E. to answer those contained in the note of the undersigned, of the 9th of February last, he must be permitted to say, that he does not consider it usual to refer to the opinions expressed in official interviews had on occasions some time passed, since such references may lead to contradictions, either in the language employed, or at least in the deductions which in justice are derived from them. Nevertheless, as H. E. has deemed it proper to allude to the conversations had on three different occasions, with the apparent intention of discovering; if any change had occurred in the views of the undersigned, he will rectify the deductions which H. E. has drawn from his observations in the aforesaid interviews. In the first place, H. E. alludes to the information from the commander of the war steamer Ucayali, relative to the proceedings of the captain of the John Adams at the Chincha Islands in the month of May last, who declared that "he would protect every " vessel which loaded guano for any American citizen, whatever its flag might be." H. E. read this information, and other documents, to the undersigned, at the interview which took place on the 9th or 10th of May, 1857, and the undersigned framed a memorandum, of this conversation, and communicated it to his government on the llth of May, assuring it" that H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs had informed the undersigned that the "commander of the United States man-of-war John Adams landed at the Chincha " Islands, and acting in conformity with Garcia, agent of General Vivanco, interrogated "the agent of the house of Barreda & Brother, being at first inclined to oblige the " vessels chartered by that house to exchange their bills of lading for those in the name " of Samuel F. Tracy, agent of Vivanco in the United States; but that afterwards he " (the commander of the John Adams) concluded by saying that such questions should be " directed to the diplomatic agent of the United States at Lima." The undersigned added, that H. E. was not disposed to make a formal complaint for the conduct of the commander of the John Adorns, but that said commander had invaded the jurisdiction which belong to tribunals of Peru. The undersigned remembers that H. E. said at this time that he did not pretend to make official complaint, because he desired to avoid disagreeable questions, Notwithstanding, the undersigned does not remember having solemnly offered " to ob- " tain from his government due reparation for the conduct of the John Adams" What he said to H. E. was, " that if the acts mentioned by H. E. were clearly substantiated, " he could not approve such conduct, nor would it be done by the Government of the " United States." The undersigned offered to inform his government of the affair, and did so ; but he did not offer to obtain the due satisfaction, which H. E. did not ask for, being desirous to avoid disagreeable questions between the two governments. Referring to the opinions of the two members of the bar of Baltimore, transmitted by the Diplomatic Agent of Peru in the United States, H. E. omitted to say that Mr. Osma, alluding to the lawyers, said in substance that it was feared, that the opinion of a jury would be influenced by the arguments of counsel, and the prevailing opinion in the United States that th guano is sold at excessively high prices. The undersigned per- fectly well remembers that he adverted to H. E. that the opinion of these members of the bar (one of whom he understands Was Mr. Reverdy Johnson) was. of great weight ; and that in regard to the fears of Mr. Osma, that a jury would be biased by outside 52 influences, the undersigned believed them to be destitute of all foundation, because the juries of the United States are composed generally of respectable men, conscious of the sanctity of an oath, and incapable of allowing the force of public opinion, or the argu- ments of counsel to influence their verdicts. On the other hand, the juries only decide upon the facts in litigation, leaving the points of law to the decision of a judge or judges, whose opinions cannot be influenced. The reference to Mr. Caverly had for its object to disabuse the mind of H. E. of whatever doubt might remain respecting the juries, be- cause that gentleman is very well informed by his connection with the courts of the United States. Finally, the undersigned remembers that at his interview with H. E., respecting the convention signed in Lima, on the 21st of May, 1857, and published the 6th of June, he asked to be informed "if in case" American vessels went to load guano, " at the deposits " of the republic, without a license in due form, they could be seized, or merely ordered "off by the naval forces of Great Britain and France, exercising police in the Chincha " Islands, or other deposits of guano, which duties belong solely to the vessels of war of "Peru." And the undersigned said to H. E., " that if the convention contained any pro- " visions which could affect in the least degree the independence of Peru, or give to " Great Britain or France an appearance of property in the Chincha Islands, or other '' islands of the coast, or any right to control the commerce in guano with them, he should " deem himself imperatively bound to protest against such an arrangement; or, in other "words, that the undersigned could not view with indifference the establishment of a " protectorate by those nations over these islands, or any other part of the territory of ''Peru." H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs cannot have forgotten that the undersigned declined taking any part in the arrangement of this convention, " because he did not think the " United States so immediately interested in its object, and he considered it as an usurp- " ation of the independence of the Peruvian nation, and of direct intervention in the " domestic affairs of the country; that he viewed it as a dangerous precedent, capable " of producing political complications, whose results it was impossible to calculate." All these reflections of the undersigned were based on the supposition that the Gov- ernment of Lima would recover and take possession of the Chincba Islands, resuming jurisdiction over them. The undersigned did not express at that time any opinion in regard to the vessels which loaded at the Islands under license from the party of Vivanco ; he constantly declined so to do, although he was frequently solicited to that effect, and he would certainly not have touched this matter, if it had not become necessary in the discussion of the capture of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana, by the Tumbes. The undersigned was not under the necessity of giving an opinion, and confesses that this is simply spontaneous. It should be noted that neither the Diplomatic Agents nor the commanders of vessels of war of Great Britain and France ventured to interfere with the vessels which loaded guano at the Chincha Islands, under licenses issued by the party of Vivanco, notwithstanding the very extraordinary stipulation of the 7th article of the convention, which was to begin .and take effect provisionally, and ad referendum from its dale. The undersigned has gone into these explanations out of respect to H. E., and to show that there is nothing in his note which could have excited the surprise of the Exmo Council of Ministers, in charge of the executive power of Peru; much less, should it be a cause of such surprise that the undersigned defends the rights and interests of his fellow-citizens, which he considers invaded. The undersigned founded his protest on two bases: 1st. That the Peruvian nation is divided into two hostile parties, one of which sup ports the present administration, or executive power; and the other, a revolutionary party, whose object is to carry into effect a change in the presidency. 53 2 A That the question between the two parties has its origin in local interests ; that they have in view equal objects, and are limited to the territory of Peru : consequently it is a domestic and internal struggle, in which foreign nations hare no right to interfere nor to decide in favor of either of the two parties. With these principles in view the undersigned resumes the discussion respecting tike capture of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana, and will aim to answer satisfactorily the points of the note of H. E. The undersigned will limit himself to the question of the legality of the capture, and will give no opinion upon the validity of the contracts for the sale of guano, made by the revolutionary party, since this question most be de- cided by the courts or tribunals in places where this article has been sent. H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs, in replying to the undersigned refers to the laws and commercial regulations of Peru, which regulate the clearance of vessels, the expor- tation of guano, and the commerce of the coast ; and argues that, as these laws expressly prohibit the approach of foreign vessels to the national deposits, that the loading and sale of guano are reserved to special agents, and the exportation limited to the < Ti'irf 1> Islands with license from the government, the fact that the Lizzie Thompson and the Gtorgiana were seized by the Tumle* at Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica is more than sufficient, without other proofs, to demonstrate that the said Teasels were occupied -candalous and criminal contraband commerce. The undersigned admits, without hesitation, the existence of these laws in their force and application in all the territory of Peru, in time of peace, and when all the P people recognize the same administration of government in the country. In peaceful state of things in Peru, the negation or doubt on the part of other nations as to the authority which the executive has to enforce compliance with said laws, would be equivalent to a denial of the sovereignty and independence of the Penman nation. But the case is very distinct, when the state is in the midst of civil war, and divided into two parties, each one of which proclaims that it represents the desires and wishes of the Peruvian people, the origin and source of all legislation and of all laws in the territory of Peru. And such is the true condition of the republic at present, notwith- standing that H. R regards the revolution as "a party which has taken refuge in the " city of Arequipa," and General Rivas, the armed agent of this party, as the chief of a revolted vessel, it is not less true that there are two belligerents in Peru, and that the party of Vivanco has been recognized as such by the Government of Lima and by the -- :ve commandersMn-chief of the forces of the government before Arequipa, The National Convention of Peru, in the month of October last, authorized the Exmo Council of Ministers to appoint commissioners to negotiate with general Tivanco for the pacification of the country ; and the undersigned is informed that said commissioners were not sent, because the persons appointed declined accepting the charge ; and finally, because the said National Convention was dissolved by force of arms. Notwithstanding this, commissioners were appointed by Marshal San Roman, on the part of the govern- ieral Vivanco, on the part of the revolution, with the same object; and -That ample indemnification be made to the owners of the Dorcas C. Yeaton t for all damages that may result from the facts mentioned. Before reaching conclusions so serious as these, which might involve still more serious consequences, and demanding a satisfaction which is, in terms, most offensive to Peru, because they imply nothing less than the annulment of her laws and tribunals, the Min- ister of the United States in Lima, it was to be hoped, might have dwelt with some measure of soberness and attention in his investigation on the grounds of claims that are so serious, peremptory, and extraordinary. The Government of Peru has certainly, up to this time, evinced no disposition in the least to violate the rights or to insult the dignity of the United States ; and, although such a disposition may be unjustly, gratuitously, and groundlessly imputed to her, the relative circumstances and forces of the two nations, no less than the fact that the interests of Pern depend on the continuance of her pacific relations with all nations, and especially with the people of the United States, would seem to tell sufficiently upon any dispassionate mind to render impossible the very idea that the Government of Peru should attempt or pretend to dishonor the flag of that republic. No doubt it is quite possible that, in Peru, as in any other country, an officer in her service may commit, through want of reflection or due prudence, some act which would require satisfaction ; but it seems impossible that his government, proceed- ing in a dispassionate manner, and with a knowledge of the facts, should, without reason, assume upon itself the very serious responsibility of adopting and approving such a con- duct. The very fact of the government's publicly approving the conduct of Commander Duefias, it seems to the undersigned, ought to have started some doubt in the mind of the enlightened Minister of the United States at Lima as to the accuracy of the facts on which he has insisted with so much energy. The experience which His Excellency, through a long residence in Peru, has gathered as to the character of its government, the deep and habitual respect with which it has 60 ever received and entertained his communications, the personal consideration which it has ever lavished upon him, and the important concessions which have constantly been made to him, only out of respect for him and for the nation which he represents ; all these, it seems, ought to have checked the severe and hasty judgment which he has been pleased to pass upon this matter. At the time of writing his communication, His Excel- lency had under his eyes Commander Dueiias' official report, published on the 30th of January, in the Peruvian, the government's official paper, which positively states that the change in the vessel's course was made in consequence of an " agreement " with the captain ; and whilst His Excellency is pleased to assume, as truthful, one sentence of the report which will be hereafter alluded to, and which he considers accusatory of the commander of the Tumbes and of his government, he chooses to argue of falsehood the rest of the document which testifies the good faith and legality of the conduct of that officer. In order to set up and sustain the serious claims referred to, the Minister of the United States relies exclusively on the protest made for the purpose on the 23d of January, 1858, by Captain Potte, his pilot, and two of his sailors. The Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, in his note of the 9th of February, communicated to the Minister of the United States in Lima the minutes of the declarations of Captain Potte, the pilot, John P. Cogg- well, and the second pilot, Joseph P. Cunningham ; as also those of the commander of the Tumbes, of the officer who boarded the Dorcas C. Yeaton, of the five sailors who were in the boat with him, together with that of the marine who was transferred to Callao in the barque ; all taken before the judge of the first instance at this port, sworn to and subscribed by all of them, and all evidencing the complete falsity of the allegations of the protest, as the Honorable Secretary of State will perceive from the copy which the undersigned has the honor of transmitting to him. From these declarations Honorable Mr. Cass will see that the true relation of the facts is the following : Commander Duefias having been ordered to pursue and capture those vessels which, according to the information of the government, had gone to Punta de Lobos and Pa- bellon de Pica, in collusion with the insurrectionists of the south of the republic, for the criminal purpose of working the deposits of national guano at those points, met on his voyage the Dorcas C. Yeaton, which was sailing in that direction. He made the usual signal to her to heave to, and sent an officer to her, unarmed and accompanied by five men in a boat, the men also being unarmed, in order to ascertain whence she came and whither she was sailing. The sailors remained in the boat, and the captain went on board in the most peaceful manner, the captain receiving him courteously on the deck of the barque. Being asked whence he had come, and to what point he was going, the cap- tain answered that he was on his way to Iquique, and voluntarily exhibited his papers, and as readily delivered them also to the officer, who returned to the steamer. The papers showing a discrepancy, namely, that the barque had been cleared for Callao by the way of Valparaiso, whence it had proceeded, whilst the Consul of the United States at that port had cleared her for Iquique, the officer returned to inquire the cause of this irregularity, and the captain of the barque, wishing to give a satisfactory explanation, proceeded of his own accord and will aboard of the Tumbes, where he entered into a free and voluntary communication with its commander. Mr. Duefias being convinced, by Captain Potte's representation, that he had no other object in going to Iquique than to secure freight to return home, he promised him, if he would return to Callao, he would be liberally paid for his delay, and that he would procure him a cargo of guano from the Chincha Islands, with a most profitable freight. Commander Duefias' object in making this proposition was assuredly to turn the barque aside from a criminal under- taking, which might have involved its owners in fatal consequences, and complicated the relations of both nations. It went also to deprive the insurrectionary forces of the advantages which they might derive from the plundering of the guano deposits, by sell' ing one more cargo of that article. Captain Potte could not but find the offer a most advantageous one, and he not only accepted it, but also asked Commander Duefias for a 61 format communication for the general commandant of the marine at Callao, in order that the arrangement might be carried out without any delay ; requesting, at the same time, that he might be accompanied by an officer of the Tumbes, in the character of a passen- ger, to bear this communication. To this Mr. Duefias assented, and Captain Potte cheer- fully proceeded to Callao, where the agreement was carried out, and he was given, on the part of the government's consignees, a contract of freight to carry guano to the States, at the rate of twenty dollars per ton, and, besides this, the large sum of nine thousand six hundred dollars for all expenses of demurrage, and such damages as might accrue to him, in any manner, from the change of her voyage under the circumstances. It is remarkable that this statement is backed not only by the declarations above cited, but that also on the 1 st of February, three days before the communication of the Minister of the United States in Lima, Captain Potte made affidavit of the same, and signed it before the Consul of the United States, who certified to it, as appears from the copy on file in this legation, embracing also the terms and conditions of the agreement. The un- dersigned has the honor of tendering to the Secretary of State all the official documents relative to the business, by which the accuracy of the facts which he has just related will originally and incontestably appear. The undersigned has merely to advert to the commentary which the Minister of the United States in Lima makes on the expression used by Commander Dueflas in his official communication or statement, when he says, " I made Captain Potte come on board." This phrase seems scarcely to be considered worthy of a serious official communication, or of special mention ; and the undersigned inclines to the belief that the minister has Hot, in this instance, appreciated with his usual accuracy the true value of the words a very natural thing when a foreign language'is in question, however well known that language may be, The phrase to "make come" does not necessarily imply the use of force or coercion. A friendly invitation or a mere suggestion can " make come" just as well as a threat or an act of violence. That Mr. Duenas used the phrase in a plain and not inoffensive sense is proved, not only by his own declaration, but by that also sworn to by Captain Potte, who, referring to the interview on board of the Twnbes, and of the other facts, says that "in all those acts there was, on his part, the most ample liberty, without his suffering 1 " any intimidation." If any greater confirmation of this solemn declaration could be re* quired it might be found in the document cited above, which was subscribed before the Consul of the United States on the 1st of February, in which Captain Potte also asserts " that he has no complaint to make nor blame to cast against the said commander of the " Tambes or his government." In view of such facts, so authentically and solemnly put together, not only by the Peruvian officers who participated therein, but by the very witnesses, themselves in- terested, who drew up the protest upon which the Plenipotentiary of the United States has grounded his claim, it seems to the undersigned Unnecessary to go into a discussion of the questions of law which have been broached in the correspondence between His Excellency and the Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru. The facts assumed having no existence, there is no ground for an accusation, nor can there be any reason for de- fence or vindication. And here the undersigned must declare his inability to understand the intentions of the said Plenipotentiary of the United States in stating in his com- munication of the 10th of February to the Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, after having received the documents mentioned, that he sees "no good reason to change or "modify his demand for satisfaction for the offence committeid against the ilag of the " United States by the commander of the Tumbes."' The declarations of the captain of the Dorcas C. Yeaton and of his mates have to be either false or tr'ue ; if the former, the cause of the complaint Which, according to His Excellency, exists, Cannot be con- ceived, since they positively deny the fact of violence, of arbitrariness and coercion^ which was the exclusive ground for the supposed offence; if the latter, being given under oath, it is equally hard to suppose that the United States Minister in Lima, or the 63 enlightened government which lie represents, can hold up such persons to the world as worthy vouchers for a serious accusation against a friendly nation whose officers men of honor and of character indignantly deny it under the solemn responsibility of an oath, whilst their government itself formally disclaims the offensive intention implied from the presumed facts. If Captain Potte and his mates are capable of making a false declaration, they must be equally so of making an unfounded protest. The one cannot be ascribed to them without ascribing the other also. The undersigned does not pretend to solve so difficult a question, because it is not his duty to do so. It is enough that, with all due respect, he should cast back a gratuitous accusation, without taking upon himself the defence of the witnesses who have been called to support the charge. On the contrary, he would most sincerely wi^h that he could find some reason for impugning the assertion under oath, made by Captain Potte and his mates, that he had made his protest in consequence of the instigations of the Consul of the United States, and of orders, as he understands, of tlie Minister resident of this capital. If there be no mistake, as the undersigned hopes there may, in this and the subsequent statement, made by Captain Potte, to the effect that, in the room of the chief clerk, and in his presence, said minister had reproved him for accepting the con- tract for freight, already referred to, " adding that he acted under bad advice ;" then would be revealed, in a broader light, on the part of the Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States in Peru, a spirit no way subservient to the impartial examination of ques- tions of so delicate a nature, and one, it may be, incompatible with the due exercise of his high functions at the seat of government of Peru. Before passing over to the other question, to which the undersigned would desire to call the attention of the very honorable Secretary of State, he cannot but advert to the remarkable observation made by the Minister of the United States in Lima, in his com* munication of the 4th of February, in which he lays down the gravamen, as it were, of the offence attributed to Commander Duenas, in attempting to visit a vessel of the United States on the high seas, " in a time of profound peace." It is hard to realize the words quoted in view of the facts laid down by the minister himself, in his communica- tion of the 9th of February, in which, in order to sustain the legality of the traffic in Which the vessels captured at Punta do Lobos and Pabellon were engaged, His Excel' lency declares that Vivanco's rebellious party, under whose protection the vessels re- ferred to pretended they were acting, was "in a state of civil war'' with the lawful government, and therefore invested with the rights of a belligerent nation. If the revolutionary party be a belligerent one, even so must be the government against which it is waging war ; and, consequently, the minister himself, by his own argument, declares that " Peru is in a state of civil war." And, therefore, according to the doctrine of His Excellency. Peru exhibits the spectacle, somewhat anomalous indeed, of being at one and the same time at peace and at war. It is at peace when its belligerent rights are to be denied ; it is at war when it is sought to refuse it the right of a nation at peace, and in j vest the plunderers of its property with the respectable character of neutrals engaged in lawful trade by the laWs of war! The Secretary of State, with his great experience in questions of this nature, will not fail to perceive that the true principle of the law of nations, which applies to the present case, is equally removed from the two extremes, where it is placed by the Minister of the United States in Lima. Without being in a civil war, recognized as such in the interior, or by the exterior of the republic, Peru regrets the existence, in a portion of her territory, of a rebellion against the lawful government, supported by the mass of the nation, and recognised by other governments. Speculation and plunder being the exclu* Bive ends of that rebellion, the rebels have directed their forces almost exclusively against the deposits of national guano; and, by means of a war-steamer, which the President of the Republic has declared to be a pirate, they have been, from time to time, successful in defrauding the public treasury of large sums of money from the sale of guano at any 63 price, inviting the adventurers of other nations to go and load their vessels "with that article. The illegality of this traffic requires no demonstration ; and the Government of the United States, which would be the last to tolerate such in its own case, would also not fail to stamp with serious reprobation any participation in it by its citizens. As little does the undersigned doubt that this government would consider itself fully bound to prevent, in its own case, a spoliation of its property by the citizens of another nation, conniving with its own in a state of insurrection, and to adopt measures for visiting suspicious vessels at those places where they might reasonably deem it proper to exer- cise a lawful supervision. The Government of Peru and the undersigned by no means deem it necessary, in this case, to discuss or put forward the right of visitation. Hon- orable Mr. Cass has verbally stated to the undersigned that there are cases in which a national vessel might be justified in visiting a merchant vessel on the high seas, and that the Government of the United States would not, in such cases, make a formal re- clamation ; and the Honorable Secretary of State had the kindness to put a case entirely applicable to the case and circumstances of the Tumbes, when she signalled the Dorcas C. Yeaton to heave to. This is enough to absolve the undersigned from the necessity of insisting here on the right which all nations have to protect themselves, under certain circumstances, independently of the strict question -of belligerent arid neutral prin- ciples. The port of Iquique, to which Captain Potte was shaping his course, is one of the ports of the Peruvian territory frequented by the piratical steamer already mentioned. The principal cargo to be derived from its neighborhood must be one of national guano. The discrepancy between the clearances, one being for Callao and the other for Iquique, clearly confirmed the suspicion, raised by the direction which the vessel was pursuing and the locality where it was met. The courtesy with which, this notwithstanding, she was treated the total absence of extortion or violence, and the marked advantages which it derived from the interruption of the voyage everything should go to satisfy the Secretary of State, as the undersigned trusts, of the respect and consideration which the Government of Peru and its officers strive to pay to the flag of the United States, and to the rights of its citizens. With these observations, the undersigned passes on to the consideration of the de- spatch of the United States Minister at Lima, dated February 9th, through which His Excellency claims against the Government cf Peru all the damages and injuries which may ensue from the capture of the American vessels Georyiana and Lizzie Tliompson by said war-steamer Titmbes, and from their subsequent detention by the Peruvian Govern- ment. His Excellency also calls for the responsibility of the Government of Peru in the premises. The facts in which the above-mentioned claim is founded admit less controversy than those of the case discussed in the first instance. The Georgiana was captured at Punta de Lobos, on the 24th of January, 1858, and the Lizzie Thompson, on the same day, at Pabellon de Pica. Both had on board part of their cargo of guano from those deposits ; the confessed object of their presence at the points referred to being to take in guano for exportation to foreign ports. They were taken under capture to Callao, where their captains, H. A. Wilson and Stephen Reynolds, with the mate of the Georgiana, L. A. Hamilton, after three days' imprisonment, were released, under security, as they were charged with a violation of the criminal laws of the republic. The Minister of the United States in Lima deems it proper to maintain, in his afore-mentioned communica- tion, three propositions in relation to those facts : First. That neither the vessels nor their captains had participated in any criminal or scandalous contraband. /SfeeoK%. That the arrest of the vessels and of their officers was not in virtue of a perfect right. Thirdly. That the manner of the arrest and of taking them to Callao was irregular, cruel, and illegal The undersigned intends to give each of these propositions its relative consideration, without, however, entering upon the discussion of some points set forth in connection with them by the Honorable Minister of the United States a connecting which, in the humble opinion of the undersigned, as touching the legitimate object of the controversy, is not quite as apparent as might be desired. It is needless to repeat that Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica are two points where deposits of natural guano are found, public property of the Republic of Peru. In the " report on the commercial relations of the United States with foreign nations," transmitted on the 4th of March, 1856, to the House of Representatives, by the worthy predecessor of the Honorable Secretary of State, and printed and distributed by order of Congress, is to be found at page 700 of the first volume, an exact description of those deposits, their locality, and their extent. Article 15 of the Commercial Regulations, promulgated by the Government of Peru, in 1852, declares that the " vessels that take " in guano for foreign ports shall be allowed to do so in the Chincha Islands only." Ar- ticle 114 of said regulations provides that "the exportation of guano shall be carried on " only by vessels under contract with the government or its agent," and article 113 states " that vessels that may be found at anchor on the coasts of the islands belonging " to the republic shall be confiscated, and moreover, that, if guano will have been found " aboard, the captains and crews to be handed over to the action of customary justice, to " be tried as delinquents in case of theft." The existence of this regulation must be and it could not but have been known and understood in the Union ; for in the same " report," officially presented, we find at page 685, and on the ones following, of the first volume, a detailed reference to its provisions, with the special information touching the guano question. Besides what has been cited we find in their full vigor, and as they still are, with some charges therein mentioned, the decrees of the Government of Peru in relation to the contraband of guano, dated January 14th, March 21st, and May 10th, 1842, lately reprinted for abundant caution in the official of the 27th of February, 1857. They de- clare " that no quantity of guano shall be taken out, for exportation to foreign ports, "from any portion of the territory of the republic, unless from the northern island of "the Chiucha group;'' that no authority of "the republic can, in any case, grant permits " to take out guano for foreign exportatation, and that the custom-houses, with the ex- " ception of Callao, shall refuse all clearances applied for; that every national or foreign " vessel that may anchor at, or come to the islands or places where guano may be found, " without due permits from the authorities that are empowered to grant them, shall be " liable to confiscation ;" and that vessels that may be engaged in contraband, " or may " violate the articles in relation to anchoring at or coming to the guano islands or de- " posits, or those relative to the taking out of guano from other points except those des- ignated, and that designation being confined to the northern of the Chincha Islands, " shall be seized, and their captains shall be brought to trial as contrabandists." Lastly, the national convention of the republic deemed it proper to promulgate its de- cree of the 1st of April, 1857, which was published in the official paper of the 2d of said month. It laid down the following provision : " That all the guano exported, and thereafter to be exported from the Chincha Islands,. " or from any other deposit of Peru, by disturbers of the public order, or by virtue of " contracts made with them, or with their agents, shall at all times be subject to be " claimed back as stolen national property, and the parties responsible therefor shall be " civilly and criminally prosecuted in conformity with law." Such being the provisions of the existing laws of Peru, laws in vigor at the time 65 when the Georgiana and the Lizzie Thompson were captured laws promulgated, the most of them, many years back, and the most recent of them nearly ten months before the arrest was made ; the Government of the Union itself having nearly two years be- fore officially recognized and indicated the most important of them ; and it being equally notorious and public in the Union, from the discussion between the two governments in relation to the Chincha Islands, that the guano deposits in Peru are the exclusive prop- erty of the nation, the products of which are exclusively worked out and sold by the agents of the republic under contracts; the undersigned will take for granted that there is binding upon the captains and crews of the vessels referred to an obligation to con- form their action to those laws, or to incur the penalties which they provide. It being also granted and acknowledged, that those vessels were met at points interdicted, not only without permits from the lawful authorities of the republic, but in the act also of doing that which, under the laws, no authority of the government, however legal it may be, can lawfully allow ; that considerable quantities of guano, the property of the nation, had been found on board of those vessels ; that the captains themselves had accepted and signed contracts for freight, to take the guano from those points, in violation of the laws quoted, and in contempt of their authority, of respect for, and of the rights of the republic; it is no easy matter to understand that system of reasoning which results in declaring them absolved from all criminal responsibility. Setting aside the observations, no doubt very interesting and worthy of the acknowl- edged distinction of the honorable representative of the United States in I ima, touching the rights of nations under republican institutions, the arguments by which he maintains his first and second propositions are reduced to two : First. That the captains of the vessels arrested having gone to Tquique in the pursuit of lawful commerce, and being there met with by official agents of an apparently lawful character, they were bound to obey them, and to act to the extent allowed by the per- mission of those de facto authorities; and that they had such permission to go and take guano in the ports mentioned, and that if the permits were illegal, the blame must not attach to them, but to the pretended authorities. Secondly. That Peru was, and it had for nearly two years been, in a state of civil war; that the existence of the revolution was well known; that, according to the modern doctrine of the rights of nations, the two contending parties occupy towaid each other, and toward the other nations, a belligerent position, which position imparts to individuals of the friendly nations the rights of neutrality, as in a case of perfect public war. The same discrepancy, previously noticed between the " profound peace" of Hon. Mr. Clay's communication of the 4th of February and the state of " civil war," commented in this note, seems to the undersigned to lie at the ground of the two arguments which he has just reproduced. If the vessels in question went as neutrals to Iquique, prose- cuting their commerce in a port of a nation at war, it seems difficult to ascribe to their captains the innocent and natural error, under the influence of which, it is supposed, they in good faith mistook the pretended authorities of the insurrectionists for the lawful authorities of the Government of Peru. If, on the other side, they entered Iquiqne as a port of a nation at peace, intending to obey the laws and conform to existing regulations of commerce, how can they now be defended under the supposition that they claimed the rights of neutrals trading with a nation at war? But, passing by this inconsistency, or what seems to be one at least, it strikes the undersigned that there is a conflict in the Hon. Mr. Clay's arguments, and that in a very important point, with the most sacred principles of public law. The principle that, in certain cases, a civil war may confer the rights of belligerents on the two contending parties, and communicate the rights of neutrals to those who trade with them, respectively, has no doubt beep admitted as a sound principle. But 9 66 this principle, which is exceptional in its origin and legitimacy, has never been carried, as the undersigned with some confidence presume?, so far as to assert that, in the unfor- tunate event of a civil war in any nation, the members of other friendly nations have the right of determining, by themselves and for themselves, the existence of such a war, without the previous action and authority of their respective governments. The under- sifned, on the contrary, thinks that he can rely on the distinguished support of the Honorable Secretary of State, when he advances it as a sound and settled doctrine in such cases, that the Government of the United States has first officially to recognize the state of civil war in Peru, and declare their neutrality therein, before their citizens can avail themselves in Peruvian territory of the rights of neutrals in a belligerent country. Unless the undersigned mistakes, this doctrine has received the illustrious sanction of the Supreme Court of the Union, in various cases, and as decidedly so, that of tlie Courts of Great Britain. If it were not so, if the principle laid down by Mr. Clay could make good that the bare fact of the chiefs of an insurrection having enough of power temporarily to command and hold possession of the property of the nation in its territory, authorizes the members of other nations to deal at once with them as the owners of what they thus hold, there could be no security anywhere, and the door would be thrown wide open to every kind of disorder and plunder. The United States, luckily powerful and happy so far, have not gone through the sad ordeal of any domestic revolution, but in the possible contingency of so disastrous an event, it might be equally daring and dangerous for the members of any foreign nation to proceed, without the previous de- termination of their own government in the matter, to treat with the rebels to help them in their spoliations of national property, and afterwards claim, for their defence or justification, the rights of neutrals during the existence of war. The undersigned will not say, though such an assertion might not be a very rash one, that the United States would exact a satisfaction or a compensation from that nation whose subjects mi^ht thus expose themselves ; but they would certainly not allow any national intervention, how- ever powerful it might be, to interfere with the vindication of their outraged laws. The Government of Peru confidently relies upon the conviction that the Cabinet of Washing- ton could not wish to impose upon the other nations, much less upon those of inferior power, principles which it would not recognize in its own case. If the undersigned Lave not erred in these inferences, there is little to be added rela- tive to the two first propositions of the Minister of the United States in Lima. It is clear that the captains referred to cannot shield themselves behind the pretence of war or of neutrality. The revolutionary state in the southern portion of the Republic of Peru, beingVis pub- lic and notorious as it is alleged to have been by the Honorable Mr. Clay a state of confusion which, according to his own communication, had been enduring for nearly two years ; a state publicly announced and freely commented upon, from its commencement, by the whole press of the Union how can it be possible, in a question of fact, to im- pute to two American captains, intelligent as all men of their class are, the gross and absolute ignorance under which they are, by His Excellency, presumed to have labored as to so anomalous and so well known a state of things 1 Can it be believed that, after having been in Iquique for the length of time which they spent there, they failed to learn that the port was in possession of the insurrectionists? Is it because they were not under an obligation, moral and legal, to inform themselves of so important a point ? Granting, for the sake of argument, that they were uninformed of the revolutionary con- dition of the port, and of its usurpation by the pretended authorities when they entered Iquique, is it credible that they were ignorant of the fact when they sailed out of it ? And aware of it, as it was their duty to be, and as they no doubt were, being under an equal obligation of ascertaining the laws of the country, and paying obedience to them, if, lured by a spirit of speculation,' or of covetousness, or if it be a mere spirit of adven- ture, they resolved to violate the regulations of the republic, to affiliate with the treason- 6T able disturbers of its peace and to plunder its patrimony, must they not also be held to have taken upon themselves the responsibility and the consequences of their course ? It would certainly be strange, were they absolved from these for the reason that one of them bad made a contract on guilty grounds with the French consul, and that both had, in the port of Iquique, seen an English man-of-war, as the Honorable Mr. Clay so singularly in- sists upon. There is nothing improbable in the fact that even a consul of any nation should fail in respect of the laws of the country in which he exercises his functions, be- cause, both within the experience of the Union and of Peru, such cases have been known to occur. It is, therefore, no way strange that an armed vessel should remain in a re- bellious port, not to countenance its rebellion, but, on the contrary, to protect the citi- zens of its flag against revolutionary violence and guilt. The undersigned cannot under- stand how the captains alluded to can claim the benefit of the good faith and ignorance invoked in their behalf by the Honorable Minister of the United States in Lima, con- fronted by the facts set forth by the charter parties themselves, under which they were acting when captured. It is a remarkable circumstance that while the pretended per- mits, granted by the pseudo commander of the navy, Don Felipe Rivas, under which the captains would now take refuge, merely authorize them " to proceed south, to " take in "guano," neither of the charter parties makes mention of any point south; but, on the contrary, the contract with the Lizzie 7'hompson grants the privilege to the charterer of naming any of the ports of Peru, provided that it be not one more to the north of Callao, and theiefore embracing the Chincha Islands. Again, the contract for the Georgian* gives to the freighters a free choice of any of the ports on the whole coast of Peru, north as well as south. An irresistible consequence from these facts is, that neither the charterers nor the chartered vessels had any intention of confining themselves to the southern ports, where alone there was the least shadow of an authority de facto, standing in opposition to the government of the nation, whilst it was evident that the captains hud lent them- selves to the schemes of the insurrectionists, and had joined in accompliceship with them to defraud the treasury of the republic, ready as they were to carry out their pro- ject, wherever the most inviting and least dangerous opportunity might offer. Insomuch as the possession, de facto, by the insurrectionists and their pretended authorities, is concerned, it must be said that from the first outbreak of the revolution organized by Vivanco up to the present hour, this leader has had under his command, or in his favor, no portion of the territory of the republic, with the exception of the city of Arequipa; for while the actual presence of his armed forces continued, and at the time when the arrest of the vessels took place, Vivanco was besieged by the national forces in Arequipa, and confined to that point, without more authoiity, of any real character, than that which he exercised within its very narrow limits. It is true that the sometime national frigate, the Apurimac, whose officers at the outset declared in favor of Vivanco not having returned, with the other vessels that had also mutinied in the commencement, to its allegiance to the government although its decree ha-1 imme- diately declared her to be a pirate went cruising about the coast with the pretended naval commander on board, bombarding the towns, depredating, stealing, and selling the guano belonging to the nation, granting fraudulent permits for its excavation and ship- ping, and protecting the vessels then loading in its robbery. This is the exact history of the facts, and no one knows it better than the Hon. Mr. Clay; the hi-tory of the ostensible authority, and of the de facto possession, on which His Excellency now relit a to protect the captains in the premises. The only occupation of this piratical frigate, and of its floating and itinerant authorities, which it conveys from point to point, is noto- riously that of robbing, and of authorizing and protecting robbery. When they were in Iquique, they there put forth their phantom of a government, and there exercised a jurisdiction of pirates over Punta de Lobos, Pabellon de Pica, and other adjacent points. And it is noteworthy that long before the events under examination, all communication had ceased indeed, all relation between Vivanco, Iquique, Apurimac, (its officers, and 68 the authorities, which it conveys about, or those that are countenanced by their pres- ence, being the only shadow of a de facto government that existed in those parts.) More- over, it is highly important to remark, that neither Vivanco nor his government has, through any public decree, or act of any kind, pretended to repeal the decrees and regu- lations adduced, all prohibiting the exportation to foreign parts of guano taken from the hereinbefore mentioned deposits; so that, besides the fact that neither he nor his intrusive authorities are recognized by the Peruvian nation, or by the Government of the Unien, the pretended license signed by Rivas commands neither the authority nor the sanction of the so-called revolutionary government, forasmuch as it may consider itself established de facto. Indeed, it is strange that the Hon. Mr. Clay should maintain with so much energy that there existed at Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica, an established de facto government lidding those points, when a national vessel of so little tonnage as the Tumbes could, without resistance, take possession of the vessels that were found there, and thus assert and maintain the jurisdiction of the lawful government; and if, as sup- posed by the minister, the possession de facto be the only criterion of jurisdiction for putting to effect the fiscal and custom-house laws, through means of a seizure, how, then, could a possession thus affirmed and realized de facto through the capture, by the Tumbes, of the vesstls in question, fail to be considered, in point of law, as a just and lawful ground for the seizure that was made? Surely, it will not be maintained that the fact ol holding the de jure jurisdiction lessened the effect of the possession de facto of the Tumbes, nor yet that the presence of a few insurrectionary soldiers on shore, or at the points mentioned, could deprive the lawful government of the right of exercising in the port that lawful jurisdiction of which it was deprived on shore, merely through the violence of an illegal power. When we speak of a de facto authority, we are hound to show that it actually exists. Whenever, at any point, it lacks force to sustain itself, from that moment its existence ceases there. In view of what precedes, and of the powerful reasons adduced by His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Peru, in his correspondence on the subject with the Minis- ter of the United States, the undersigned flatters himself that proof is made out of the perfect right under which his government acted in the controverted cases, and of its entire adherence to international laws, to the treaties of 1851 between the two nations, and to the respect which is due to the dignity of the United States and the rights of their citizens. All that is now required is the refutation of the Honorable Mr. Clay's third proposi- tion, in which, speaking of the right exercised by the Peruvian Government in the arrest of the vessels and crews referred to, as a perfect right, His Excellency denounces its mode of execution as illegal, cruel, if not barbarous. The language used by His Excel- lency would be harsh, very harsh, even if they were justifiable. His Excellency at the outset starts with a great error when he attempts to define the arrest of the vessels and crews in question as a simple seizure under ordinary custom- house laws. His Excellency forgets the state of insurrection and violence on which he lays so much stress in the sequence of his arguments. He entirely puts out of view the fact that participation with the rebels in taking guano from the deposits in question has been formally declared to be robbery. In His Excellency's view a mere blank is the guilty complicity of the parties with the pirate of the Apurimac, in plundering the public treasury, and thus supplying rebellion with more effective means of shedding blood and resisting the lawful authorities of the country. Engaged as they were in such undertakings, they certainly had no right to expect either favor or consideration. To rob the nation forcibly of its property, or under the protection of lawless violence, can- not be less than a very serious crime in itself, because it is, at the same time, a violation of the revenue laws. On the contrary, if there be any distinction at all, on that account, ib lies in the circumstance that the greater crime absorbs the less, and imparts its own character to the act. 69 His Excellency likewise forgets that, as he himself has alleged, the points where the arrests were made were garrisoned by some forces of the insurrectionists, and that the piratical frigate Apurimac, with forces superior to those of the 2\imbes, was not far distant, its principal occupation being that of visiting and protecting those points. Under such circumstances there was neither time nor room for considerations and condescensions in regard of persons engaged in criminal acts, the breaking-up of which was the object of the visit made by the Tumbes. Nor was there time for delays; and if, in the manner in which the vessels were taken and sent to Callao, there was something of haste or violence, surely the blame must fall back on the wrong-doers who, by their conduct, created a necessity for forceful measures. The undersigned omits comments on the observations of the Minister of the United States on the injustice, illegality, and cruelty which would have attended the destruction of the vessels and abandonment of their crews, as it is said the commander of the Tumbes threatened his intention to do. The vessels were not destroyed, and the fact is sufficient to preclude resort to possibilities. If a portion of the crews was left at the points where they were found with the vessels, the fact grew out of the sheer necessities of the case. The commander of the Tumbes found five vessels of great burden. He could not leave their crews aboard, because, together with the laborers that were collected with them, they might have proved too numerous for the safety of the prizes. For the same reason he could not take them on board the Tumbes. There was, therefore, no other resort than that of leaving them in the smaller boats, all sufficient to take them whithersoever they might choose to go ; and, as a proof of that sufficiency, four days afterwards, and in their boats, they reached Arica, where they were assisted by the prefect with an allowance of fifty cents a day, made to each individual, and whence they were forwarded to Callao, in which port, receiving a like allowance, they remained waiting the result of the trial which had been instituted. At the points where they were originally left, they had the resources common to the insurrectionary forces there stationed sufficient, at all events, to repel the accu- sation of cruelty, which has been brought forward against their abandonment. The captains went to Callao, under parole, in their own vessels, and were sent to jail on their arrival. All the usual forms of law were adhered to in their case, in conformity with the enactments and usages of the land, with this favorable exception, however, that they were released under bond, after three days' detention an act of courtesy and considera- tion on the part of the government, at the request of the Minister of the United States, without, therefore, renouncing the perfect right upon which it had stood from the begin- ning, in all the proceedings relative to the case. The undersigned flatters himself that this manifestation of the cordial good will which animates his government will not be the less appreciated in view of the singular and, to this hour, unexplained conduct (diffi- cult to be explained) of Mr. Miles, the United States Consul in Callao, who had the boldness, as appears from a communication of the collector at Callao, to introduce him- self, without previous permission, into the place where the captain and the mate of the Georgiana were, officially to take their declarations; thus exercising a jurisdiction which, he could not but be aware, belonged exclusively to the courts of the republic. The un- dersigned will probably find himself under the obligation of formally bringing this serious proceeding of the consul to the Hon. Mr. Cass' consideration. Meanwhile, regretting the inevitable length of this note, he will no further delay its conclusion. The undersigned ardently desires to have it in his power, as soon as possible to com- municate to his government the recognition, by the Cabinet of Washington, of the 'per- fect right under which it acted in the questions in controversy, and he takes pleasure in reiterating to the Honorable Secretary of State the assurance of the sincere wish of his government to cultivate and draw still more closely the good relations of friendship with the Government of the United States; and he hopes that nothing that has occurred in. the cases to which he has referred, shall, from the exaggeration or the inaccuracy of 70 the statement of facts, contribute to lessen, in the slightest degree, the sentiments of friendly feeling on the part of this republic for that of Peru. The undersigned has the honor of tendering to the Honorable Secretary of State the assurance of his high respect and distinguished consideration. JUAN I DE OSMA. The very Honorable LEWIS CASS, Secretary of State of the United States. Mr. CASS to Mr. OSMA. DEPARTMENT OF STATE, ) WASHINGTON, May 22, 1858. \ Sir, I have received your note of March 27th, and have submitted it to the President for his consideration, and I am charged by him to make known to you his views of the subject you have presented. While the confidence you have been instructed by your government to express in the moderation and equity of the Government of the United States has been highly gratifying to the President, he regrets that it has been accompanied by an expression of dissatisfaction with Mr. Clay, the Minister of the United States at Lima, for the manner in which he discharged his duties under the unpleasant cir- cumstances in which he was placed by the necessity of urging on the Govern- ment of Peru just reparation for injuries committed against the persons and prop- erty of his countrymen. If Mr. Clay has rendered himself justly obnoxious to a charge of want of impartiality and of friendly disposition in his proceedings, he has failed to represent the sentiments of his government, and has adopted a course which it does not approve. The United States cherish the most friendly feelings towards the Peruvian people and their government, and take much interest in the advancement of tkeir beautiful country in all the elements of improvement. I have carefully examined the correspondence between Mr. Clay and the Secre- tary of State of Peru, and appreciate his position and the zeal and ability he dis- played, without, however, adopting all his conclusions. His interposition became necessary in vindication of the rights of his country, which, in his opinion, had been violated, and in that opinion his government concurs with him. The evidence which has been collected is in some particulars contradictory, but it shows very clearly that serious violations of the rights of the United States had taken place, and I do not perceive that the views taken by Mr. Clay can properly subject him to the complaint of partiality or ill feeling. I am confident he knew too well what was due to his own position and to the sentiments of this government to offer any intentional offence to the friendly Gov- ernment of Peru. I perceive, on reviewing the correspondence, that there are some indications of excited feeling on both sides, and some expressions indulged that had better been avoided. But I content myself with this reference, without a desire to pass any further judgment upon it. I beg leave also to assure you that any representations you may be instructed to toake against Mr. Miles, the American Consul at Callao, will be received without hesitation, and the facts investigated with a view to mark his conduct with the dis- approbation of the government, should it be found that he has failed in proper respect to the Government of Peru, or discharged his duties in an improper manner. There are three subjects of complaint presented by Mr. Clay to the Government of Peru. These are, the boarding and detention of the American vessel the Dorcas C. Yeaton by the Peruvian armed steamer the Tumbes, and the capture of two other American vessels, the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson, by the same national cruiser. The course pursued by your government in offering an adequate compensation for the interruption of the voyage of the Dorcas C, Yeaton, and its acceptance by the captain in satisfaction of the injury, has withdrawn the question of damages on account of that occurrence from the existing controversy ; but the boarding of the Dorcas 0. Yeaton by the Peruvian vessel-of-war presents very grave considerations for the interposition of this government. The American vessel was sailing upon the high seas, under the flag of her country, when she was approached by the Peru- vian vessel-of-war, which, to adopt the expression used by you, " made the usual " signal for her to heave to," or, in other words, fired a gun to indicate to the un- armed ship that she must stop and await the pleasure' of the armed one. Before proceeding to examine the facts, it is necessary to lay down the principle of immunity which protects the vessels of every independent power upon the ocean from search or seizure by another power. In a recent correspondence with Lord Napier, the Minister of her Britannic Majesty to the United States, I had occasion to investigate this subject, and to make known the views of the United States in relation to it, and their determination not to submit to the detention and search of their vessels in time of peace under any pretext whatever. I take the liberty of enclosing, for your information, a copy of the public documents contain- ing that letter, and inviting your attention to the marked paragraphs, (pages 47, 48, and 49,) explanatory of the position assumed by this government, and which is applicable to the vessels of the United States in every sea where they may pene- trate. You will perceive that the only exception to the entire immunity of their vessels which is admitted by this government, is the acknowledged right of belligerents to enter a neutral merchant vessel, in time of war, to ascertain her true character, and whether she has contraband articles of war on board. Whether the civil war which was recently prevailing in Peru, and is now hap- pily terminated, gave to the contending parties, reciprocally, the rights of belliger- ents, so far as regards the other powers of the world, which you deny, is a subject into which I need not enter, as you explicitly state that the proceeding, in relation to the Dorcas 0. Yeaton, had ho reference to any such pretension. One remark, however, in relation to this branch of the subject, seems called for, in consequence of the allusion you have twice made in your letter to the views presented by Mr. Clay, concerning the situation of Peru at the time of the aggres- sion complained of; views which you consider incorrect and inconsistent, and which you are pleased to characterize as "remarkable." I cannot concur with you in your censure of the position taken by Mr. Clay, but, on the contrary, consider it entirely justified by the circumstances. You object that Mr. Clay u lays down " the gravamen, as it were, of the offence attributed to Commander Duenas, in at- " tempting to visit a vessel of the United States on the high seas, in a time of pro- " found peace," &c., while at the same time that minister " by his own argument " declares that Peru is in a state of civil war." I do not consider the views pre- sented by Mr. Clay justly liable to the objections you urge. Peru, so far as re- 72 spects the effect of its political condition upon its intercourse with other powers, was in a state of peace. Neither of the parties contending for the government of the republic claimed any of the rights of a belligerent, connected with that inter- course, so that the foreign relations of the country were undisturbed by its internal commotions. No blockade was proclaimed, nor were foreign vessels pronounced to be neutrals, and subject to search and seizure for the reasons recognized by the laws of nations conditions which bring with them the partial interruptions to which foreign commerce in periods of public war is exposed. On the contrary, you maintain in your letter to me that the state of things in Peru brought with it no belligerent rights ; that, in fact, there was no civil war, but a rebellion merely against the lawful government. I shall not undertake to settle any general prin- ciple by which the true character of an insurrectionary movement in a country may be tested, and under what circumstances it becomes a contest for a change of the government, giving to it the attributes, together with the just consequences of a civil war. It is sufficient to say that the situation of the contending parties in Peru, and the avowed objects of the insurrectionary leaders, together with the ex- tent of their operations, and also the extent and importance of the portion of the republic which they occupied and governed at different periods of the struggle, made that contest a civil war. And it was accompanied, so far as respects the in- tercourse of other powers with Peru, with all the rights which belong to that con- dition, and which either of the parties was disposed to claim and exercise in con- formity with the recognized principles of the law of nations. While informing me that you deem it unnecessary " to discuss or put forward " the right of visitation," you remark that in a conversation you had with me, I stated " there were cases in which a national vessel might be justified in visiting a " merchant vessel on the high seas, and that the Government of the United States " would not, in such cases, make a formal reclamation," and that I had put a case illustrative of this position applicable to the circumstances of the Tumbes. I regret that my views of this subject should have been misconceived upon the occasion to which you refer. Whether the error is to be attributed to their being imperfectly expressed, or imperfectly understood, I am unable to say ; but I am sure you desire to ascribe to me precisely the opinion you supposed I entertained. But by adverting to the extracts of the letter to Lord Napier, which accompany this communication, you will perceive at once that I do not occupy the position you assign to me. I claim a total immunity for the vessels of the United States " upon the common and unappropriated parts of the ocean," to use the expression of Lord Stowell, in time of peace, under all circumstances. There is no case in which a forcible entrance into them can be justified by another power. That is, there is no case in which such entry is a lawful act. It may be an excusable one under peculiar circumstances of entrance and of conduct, which might well induce the aggrieved party to renounce all claim for reparation ; as, for instance, if a piratical vessel were known to be cruising in certain latitudes, and a national armed ship should fall in with a vessel sailing in those regions, and answering the descrip- tion given of the pirate, the visitation of a peaceable merchantman in such a case, with a view to ascertain her true character, would give no reasonable cause of offence to the nation to which she might belong, and whose flag she carried. But if I understand correctly the position you take in behalf of your govern- ment respecting the detention of the Dorcas C. Yeaton, it is unnecessary for me to discuss the general question of the claim of visitation, except to express the dissent of the United States from the principles in relation to it which you have 73 laid down. That being done, I have to observe that the question of private injury having been removed by the action of Peru, if the entrance into the American vessel were a peaceable one, without violence or menace, the United States have no demand to make of the government of your country, either in satisfaction of the act or for the punishment of the officer by whose orders it was committed. There is conflicting testimony as to the precise circumstances which occurred, but there is no version of them which attributes any offensive character to the transac- tion. Assuming, therefore, that such are the views of your government, and the use of force on this occasion being denied and disavowed on its behalf, the United States have no longer any cause of complaint against the Government of Peru for this detention of one of their vessels. But while I am gratified at being able to give you this assurance, I think it proper to remark, that the circumstances of this occurrence, independent of the statement of the persons present, may well have led Mr. Clay to believe that the entrance into the American vessel was not altogether a peaceable one. The Peruvian armed steamer was sailing upon the high seas with the purpose, as you avow, of preventing the vessels of other powers from resorting to the guano deposits. It is not denied that Peru has the right to exercise due vigilance in enforcing her revenue laws within a reasonable distance of her shores, but this should be done by a preventive service, stationed in the neighborhood of the place where a contraband trade is anticipated, and not by vessels traversing the high seas, exercising an arbitrary jurisdiction over the commerce of other powers, and exposing it to vexatious interruptions and injuries. And the measure of keeping an armed steamer upon the ocean for this purpose is liable to another objection, not less decisive as to its condemnation. The Tumbes belonged to the government, against which the revolutionary party was contending, and was acting under its orders. Those orders were to intercept by force all communications with various places in the possession and under the jurisdiction of the adverse party. The United States deny the right of interference in such cases, for reasons which will be more fully developed in the observations I shall present respecting the capture of two other American vessels, the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana. The orders and destination of tbe steamer necessarily led to the opinion that force was to be used in the accomplishment of the object of her cruise, and thus the statements made to the American consul upon this point were the more readily credited, and especially when taken in connection with the arrangement, just and proper, indeed, which was made for the satisfaction of the owners. The large sum of $9,600 voluntarily offered by the commander of the Tumbes for the short deten- tion of a few hours of the American vessel, not unnaturally, however unjustly, may have induced the opinion that the Peruvian officer felt that he had committed a grave error, which might have serious consequences, unless atoned for by a mutually satisfactory arrangement. Had no force been used or threatened, there was no error to correct. Nor is this consideration weakened by one of the reasons given by you for the liberal offer of the Peruvian officer, that a prosecution of a voyage to the guano deposits might involve the owners of the vessel in fatal con- sequences. A motive of action in the disposal of public funds to foreigners, to prevent them from engaging in what was considered an illegal traffic, scarcely reconcileable with the condition of the parties. The capture of the Lizzie Thompson and of the Georgiana, two American vessels, furnishes another subject of complaint, and the United States confidently appeal to the justice of the Government of Peru for such satisfaction as this violent and un- 10 Y4: just seizure demands, and as is due to the amicable relations subsisting between the two countries. The facts lie within a narrow compass, and in their main features are indisputable. These vessels, whose capture and the harsh treatment of whose crews form the subject of this reclamation, were owned by American citizens, and left the United States with regular clearances; one, the Georgian^ for Valparaiso, in Chile, and the other, the Lizzie Tho?npson, for Iquique, in Peru. Arrived at their ports of destination, they disposed of their respective cargoes, barley and lumber ; but the Georgiana was required by the consignees to deliver her freight at Iquique, or at another place in Peru called Mala. When they reached Iquique the captains found a civil war raging in the country, where, indeed, it had existed for almost two years, one of the contending parties seeking to retain possession of the gov- ernment, and the other to obtain it by force. This movement had been going on with varied success, and during its progress, as stated by Mr. Clay, and not dis- puted, the insurrectionary party got possession of some of the important ports of Peru, and, while holding them, they exercised all the functions of government, as well those relating to external as to internal concerns. Vessels were cleared, and all the necessary acts performed which were required by the operations of commer- cial intercourse. These ports extended almost from the southern to the northern boundary of the country. Among others thus occupied by the insurrectionists were the port of Iquique, and also two small places, Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica, in its vicinity, all of which were in their possession when the two Ameri- can vessels arrived at Iquique and sought employment. The Custom-House was open, and the officers appertaining to it in the regular discharge of their duties, and the necessary papers for the entrance and clearance of vessels were readily granted. The revolutionary party had full possession of the government at the points indi- cated. The true bearing of this fact is not weakened, as you suppose, by calling the military detachments maintaining possession at the two small points " a few insurrectionary soldiers," because if they were sufficiently numerous, as they un- doubtedly were, to effect the object, the number actually engaged in the service becomes a question of no importance, and in a subsequent part of your note you admit that these places " were garrisoned by some forces of the insurrectionists," &c. Under these circumstances, the usual commercial relations between Peru and the United States were continued, and the vessels of the former resorted to the ports of the latter, carrying freight and seeking employment, as before. In doing so, and while conforming to the regulations and -submitting to the authorities they found established there, are they liable to seizure and condemnation and their crews to punishment by the adverse party ? The United States maintain they are not, and that no such principle has been recognized during the civil wars which have been so prevalent in various countries. On the contrary, commerce has been often carried on without regard to these internal contests, and the established functionaries at the various ports of entrance have exercised all necessary authority. The preten- tion advanced by your government, which would render all these proceedings liable to be declared void, cannot be successfully maintained. If recognized, it would expose foreign commerce to the most oppressive exactions and interruptions. It would enable either party, acquiring possession of a place, to disregard all the offi- cial acts which had been done by its opponents while occupying it, and enforce the repayment of all public charges, though previously fully satisfied, together with the forfeiture of vessels and the punishment of their crews. You claim for the government at Lima, during the existence of the contest. authority over the whole country, and the duty of obedience from every person re- siding in it, whether citizen or stranger. A similar claim is very often put forward in cases of civil commotion, and is not seldom urged at the same time by both par- ties. It cannot be admitted where a civil war is raging, and that, in the opinion of this government, was the condition of Peru. A condition which conferred upon de facto rulers the right to govern such portions of the country as they were able to reduce to their possession. It is the duty of foreigners to avoid all interference under such circumstances, and to submit to the power which exercises jurisdiction over the places where they resort, and while thus acting they have a right to claim protection, and also to be exempted from all vexatious interruption when the as- cendancy of the parties is temporarily changed by the events of the contest. Undoubtedly, the considerations you urge respecting the true character of an armed opposition to a government are entitled to much weight. There may be local in- surrections, armed opposition to the laws, which carry with them none of the just consequences recognized by the law of nations, as growing out of a state of civil war. No fixed principle can be established upon this subject, because much de- pends upon existing circumstances. Cases, as they arise, must be determined by the facts which they present and the avowed objects of the parties, their relative strength, the progress they respectively make, and the extent of the movement, as well as other circumstances must be taken into view. While you do not deny that there may be civil wars, carrying with them the consequences to which I have re- ferred, you consider the contest in Peru comparatively an unimportant movement an insurrection, indeed, entitled to no such distinction. I do not concur in this view, nor does it appear to have been always concurred in by the government you represent. Mr. Clay appeals to some of the proceedings of the government at Lima in proof of its recognition of the character of the contest. And certainly the negotiation with the military and naval officers at Arica, belonging to the revolu- tionary party, by the direction of that government, and for their submission to its authority, indicates very clearly the opinions of both parties, asserted, indeed, in the official documents, that a civil war was prevailing in the country. The propo- sitions made by the chiefs of the revolutionary party upon that occasion maintained that of u their own free and spontaneous will " they have manifested to the govern- ment commissioners " their desire to put an end to the civil w T ar which afflicts the " republic, which they might prolong with the elements they possess," and offer the terms upon which they will submit. These terms were unconditionally ac- cepted by the commissioners and were approved and ratified by the Council of Ministers, and thus was the state of civil war fully recognized. Besides your estimate of the partial nature of the movement, which, in your opinion, divests it of the true character of a civil war, if I understand your position, you consider some act of a foreign government recognizing the existence of such a war to be necessary before its citizens can claim the protection which the United States demand for their own. I must express my dissent from this position, at least in its application to these two American vessels, I do not propose, however, to investigate the general pro- position as to the necessity of this external political interference, because such a discussion is not demanded for any purpose 1 have in view. Cases have been put, and may be put again, which, in the opinion of high authorities, require such a measure before they carry with them the consequences attached to the condition of civil war. Such cases may relate to the declaration of a blockade, to a claim to search vessels as neutrals, and to the exercise of other belligerent powers assumed by the hostile rulers. By what public act, whether proclamation or otherwise, this recognition must take place I have not found laid down. I am not aware that, in this country, any solemn proceeding, either legislative or executive, has been adopted for the purpose of declaring the status of an insurrectionary movement abroad, and whether it is entitled to the attributes of a civil war, unless, indeed, in the formal recognition of a portion of an empire seeking to establish its indepen- dence, which, in fact, does not so much admit its existence as it announces its result, at least, so far as regards the nation thus proclaiming its decision. But that is the case of the admission of a new member into the family of nations. Such is not the condition of Peru. She had already attained that position, and her intestine difficulties arose out of an effort to change the administration of the gov- ernment, which was a matter of purely domestic concern, not touching foreign powers, unless in the progress of the contest their interests were brought into ques- tion. So long, therefore, as such a contest preserves its 'domestic character there is no necessity for external interposition, unless, indeed, there be a determination to take part with, and aid one of the parties by the direct application of force, or by the exertion of political influence. Such has not been the policy of the United States, and they carefully abstained from all interference with the troubles in Peru, content to abide the decision which its people might make ; and this government permitted the diplomatic intercourse of the two countries to continue unchanged, as a measure demanded by their mutual interests and not as an acknowledgment of the pretensions of either of the rival parties. It is therefore unnecessary to advert to the effect of a formal recognition by the executive, and how far that act of political power would be obligatory upon the courts of justice and binding upon the rights of individuals. Whether a civil war was prevailing in Peru is a question of fact to be judged by the proofs, as the existence of a war between two inde- pendent nations is a similar question, to be determined in the same manner where as is often the case, at least in this country there is no public authoritative recog- nition of it. Foreigners in Peru were subject to the local jurisdiction and bound to submit to it, and while so submitting they were entitled to protection and not justly liable to be called in question for such obedience upon any change of au- thority consequent upon the progress of military events. You will perceive by this view that the importance you attach to the fact that the American captains could not be ignorant of the true state of things in Peru, a fact in which you find a justification for the proceedings that took place affecting them, becomes a subject of no importance whatever. Ignorant or informed of the situation of Peru, their rights and duties were precisely the same. They had a right to enter any port of the republic open to foreign commerce, and not blockaded, for the prosecution of their commercial enterprises ; and it was their duty after such entrance to obey the authorities they might find established there. And the same principle which is applicable to the jurisdiction of a de facto government over persons, applies with equal force to questions of internal administration, touching the public revenue. These are subjects which follow the possession of the powers of government. The views, therefore, which you present at some length, of the laws of Peru, providing for the regulation of the trade in guano, and prescribing penalties for their violation, have no practical connection with the case of these two American vessels. The true construction of these regulations, their repeal or suspension, of modification, or application, are questions of administration to be determined by the existing administrative power, to whose decision foreign- ers must submit, ' When the revenue officers at Iquique, acting under the authority of the de facto government, gave the necessary permission for the purchase of guano at the places indicated, then subject to the authority of that government, the American captains had the right to repair thither and to take that article on board their vessels for freight, in conformity with the provisions of their charter parties. And the transfer of the possession of these places while the vessels were engaged in this employment, could justly work no forfeiture for acts previously done under these circumstances, nor subject the officers or crew to punishment. The United States recognize no pretension for such interference, but hold on to the stipulations of their treaty with Peru, which guarantees protection to their citizens without regard to whatever changes, violent or peaceable, may take place in the government of that country. Connected with this branch of the subject, you inquire how it happens " if pos- " session de facto be the criterion of jurisdiction for the enforcement of fiscal or " Custom-House laws, (for all authority you might have added,) that the possession " affirmed and realized de facto through the capture by the Tumbes of the vessels " in question failed to be considered in point of law as a just and lawful ground for " the seizure that was made ?" This question admits of a satisfactory answer and a brief one. While contending parties are carrying on a civil war, those portions of the country in the possession of either of them become subject to its jurisdiction, and persons residing there owe tO it temporary obedience. But when such possession is changed by the events of the war, and the other party expel its opponents, the occupation it acquires carries with it legitimate authority, and the right to assume and exercise the functions of the government. But it carries with it no right, so far at any rate as foreigners are concerned, to give a retroactive effect to its measures, and expose them to penalties and punishments, and their property to forfeiture for acts which were lawful and approved by the existing government when done. If the Government at Lima had taken forcible possession of the places where the two American vessels were at anchor, and had established its authority, it would then have been entitled to demand that such authority should be recognized and obeyed, and to enforce it, if necessary, so far as might regard all transactions occurring during such occupa- tion, without, however, affecting existing rights. The principle is clear, but it does not appear that the circumstances called for its application. JSTo possession of any portion of the country in question seems to have been taken by the Tumbes. It is admitted, indeed, that that vessel exercised no jurisdiction "on shore." She sailed into the small ports il garrisoned" by the other party, and in the absence of its two armed vessels, and made " capture" and " seizure" of the American vessels, and then, for aught that appears, abandoned the position and left the adverse jurisdiction as she found it. This is no rightful proceeding under any circum- stances attending a civil war, and still less under the circumstances in which it took place. The cutting out of these vessels resembles a piratical enterprise rather than the exertion of a legitimate power against the property of a friendly nation under the authority of an established government. Upon a full consideration of the subject, the President indulges the confident expectation that the Government of Peru, on reviewing the circumstances, will not hesitate to make such compensation for the capture of the Georgiana and of the Lizzie Thompson, and for the injuries to the captains and the crews, as these violent transactions call for. 78 There is another incident connected with these occurrences to which I invite your attention. Mr. Clay has complained of the conduct of the commander of the Tumbes for a want of humanity, in his treatment of the crews of the two captured American vessels. This charge you regard as unfounded, and the course pursued upon that occasion as just and humane. I have no disposition to continue the discussion of this point of a controversy already sufficiently extended, but the indefensible na- ture of the transaction, not less than justice to Mr. Clay, requires that I should make known to you the disapprobation of this government of an act of cruelty towards a number of its unprotected citizens, committed by the Peruvian officer, without any excuse under the circumstances. The crews of the vessels were in a state of utter destitution, reduced to that condition by forcible expulsion from their own vessels, and were compelled to leave in open boats, badly equipped for the purpose, and without provisions or water, and some forty or fifty miles, as Mr. Clay states, from any place where these indispensable articles could be procured. I am sure the enlightened Government of Peru would condemn the conduct of the captain of the Tumbes were all the facts of the case correctly before it. In a de- clared war, persons thus captured in the prosecution of hostilities would rarely be subjected to such treatment, and never without the serious responsibility of the government permitting or justifying the measure. But these unfortunate men were the citizens of a friendly republic, engaged in peaceable commerce, and had done no act justly exposing them to capture or to punishment. The United States have a right to expect the Government of Peru will mark with its displeasure the con- duct of its officer upon that occasion. I have requested from the Attorney-General his opinion upon some of the ques- tions involved in the discussion between our respective governments, and I enclose for your information, a copy of the communication I have received from that officer in answer to my application. His views meet the concurrence of the President. I avail myself of this occasion, sir, to offer to you a renewed assurance of my very distinguished consideration. LEWIS CASS. MR. BLACK to MR. CASS. ATTORNEY-GENERAL'S OFFICE, \ May 15th, 1858. \ Sir, The questions you have submitted relative to the seizure of the American vessels Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson by the Peruvian war-steamer Tumbes, on the coast of that country, have had my consideration. The two American vessels were engaged in lawful trade without any intention on the part of masters, owners, or other persons, to do injury to the Peruvian Gov- ernment, or to violate any law which they might find to be in force for the regula- tion of commerce in that part of the world. They both went into the port of Iquique, and there, after discharging the cargoes with which they were laden, they procured a regular clearance and license at the Custoin-House to load with guano at certain points on the coast where that article is found. While they were en- gaged in taking in their cargoes of guano, agreeably to the license so obtained, they were forcibly seized by the Peruvian steamer, the persons on board were impris- oned, and the vessels carried into Callao, under a charge of being engaged in con- traband trade. Neither the commander of the Turribes nor the government which he served has attempted to vindicate the justice or legality of these proceedings on the ground that the clearance and license under which the Americans acted were unlawful in form or substance. It is not pretended that the authority given on the face of the license was insufficient to cover the acts of the persons who had it. The whole objection to the papers is founded on the fact that the acting governor of Iquique and the collector, who was in possession of the Custom-House, held their offices, not under the authority of the Supreme Government of Peru, but by appointment from Vivanco, a revolutionary chief, who had taken arms against it. But at the date of the license, this so-called revolutionary party had full possession of this port of Iquique, of the guano deposits, and of the whole country southward to the Bolivian line. When the Americans went there they found a government organized, and its officers performing the functions which pertained to the execution of the local laws. If there was any other power in existence strong enough to dictate the law at Iquique, it Avas not exercised, nor did the foreigners at Iquique receive even a notice that it would ever be exercised in the future. Under these circum- stances, could the Peruvian Government justly or lawfully treat the American vessels as violators of their law ? When a portion of the territory of one nation is taken possession of by the forces of another with which it is at war, the conquering party has an undoubted right to declare the law of the place as long as his occupation of it continues, and all the rights of the previous sovereign are suspended until his possession is resumed. The island of Santa Cruz, then recently captured by the British forces, was in their temporary occupation during our last war with that country. We held it to be a colony of our enemy, and for that reason our courts declared that a cargo of sugar shipped from there was the lawful prize of an American privateer who had captured it. (9 Crancb, 191.) We conceded the same rule when it operated against us. The port of Castine was taken by the British in 1814, and it was decided that our revenue laws did not apply to it any more than to a foreign country. (4 Wheat., 246 ; Gullison's Rep., 501.) Indeed, nothing can be clearer than that the conquest of a country, or portion of a country, by a public enemy, entitles such enemy to the sovereignty and gives him civil dominion as long as he retains his military possession. The inhabitants who remain and submit, and strangers who go there during the occupation of the enemy, must take the law from him as the ruler de facto, and not from the government de jure, which has been expelled. It is equally well settled that, when the former government resumes its possession of the territory, whether by force or under a treaty, it cannot call the citizens or subjects of a third na- tion to account for obeying the authority which was temporarily supreme, during the enemy's occupation of the place. The JIM post liminii has no sort of application to such a case. It may be supposed that these principles refer only to a lawful war carried on be- tween two separate and independent nations. But we shall see, I think, upon further examination, that they apply with equal force to a conflict like that in which Peru has been engaged. When the people of a republic are divided into two hostile parties, who take up arms and oppose one another by military force, this is civil war. The fact that civil war ex- ists does not depend in the least on the cause of the dispute. No foreign nation has a right to interfere between the parties, nor to judge the merits of the quarrel, unless with the purpose of making war upon one or the other. They have appealed to the sword, and the sword must decide it; other powers are bound to observe a strict and impartial neutrality. If the party which opposes the previously established government shall 80 succeed in overthrowing it entirely, and gets possession of the whole country, nobody can be perverse enough to deny that in such a case the new government is sovereign and authorized to dictate the law which shall prevail. Supposing, however, that the rebellion is but partially successful, and the old government maintains itself in one part of its ter- ritory, whilst it is obliged to surrender another, shall it then give law where it has no power to enforce obedience, or shall its authority be confined to the territory which it oc- cupies ? The answer to this question is not doubtful; a revolutionary party, like a foreign belligerent power, is supreme over the country it conquers, as far and as long as its arms can carry and maintain it. Wattel (Book iii. ch. 18, sec. 295) says, what all writers on the subject assent to, that the parties to a civil war are to be regarded, for the time, as two distinct political societies, and stand in the same predicament as two belligerent nations. They are enti- tled, one as much as the other, to the respect of foreigners who deal with them, or meet them on sea or land. They can each of them claim the same rights of asylum, hospi- tality, and intercourse with other nations. (3 Wheaton, 643.) The captures made by both give titles to the prizes which their respective ships lawfully commissioned may take. (7 Wheaton, 337.) Each of them is deemed by us to be a belligerent nation, having, so far as concerns us, the sovereign rights of war, and entitled to be respected in the exercise of those rights. (Ib ) T \ hese rules of public law are recognized and enforced by our neutrality laws and those of England. It is a crime for our citizens to take part on either side of a civil war, as much as it is to aid one nation in fighting another. All the nations of the earth have acknowledged this doctrine. It was never denied during our revolutionary war with Great Britain, nor during the civil contest between Spain and her American colonies. The Peruvian Government itself sprang from a revolution, and while that revolution was in progress its chiefs and people would not have listened for a moment to any proposition which would give their military operations less validity or respect than those of other nations, however legitimately constituted. The existence of civil war in Peru is admitted by the present government of that country. The fact is known to the whole world, and cannot be denied. The American vessels did nothing to compromise their own neutrality, or that of the flag under which they sailed. Keeping themselves within the limits of a trade lawful and fair in its character, they had a right to be protected when they obeyed the regulations which they found established and in force at the place. To give them this right, it was not necessary that the government of their own country should have previously known and recog- nized the existence of the civil war. I am not required, for any purpose of this case, to say how far a revolutionary party can carry on a war upon the ocean, and vex the com- merce of the world upon its common highway. It has been doubted whether a mere body of rebellious men can thrust itself among the family of nations, and claim all the rights of a separate power on the high seas, without some sort of recognition from foreign governments. But there is no authority even for a doubt about the right of the parties to a civil war to conduct it with all the incidents of lawful war, within the terri- tory to which they both belong. On the whole case, then, my opinion is, that the following propositions cannot be con- troverted with any show of reason or authority : 1. At the time when the Georgian and Lizzie Thompson went to Iquique, a state of civil war existed in Peru. 2. At that time, one of the parties to that civil war having expelled the other, had possession by conquest of the port of Iquique, and the points where the guano was deposited. 3. Being so in possession, and having officered and organized the local government of the port, and the city, and the guano deposits, the jurisdiction of the party headed by Vivanco was perfect, and an American vessel trading to the port was bound to conform to its decrees. 81 4. The Gtorgiana and Lizzie TJiompson, having obeyed the laws of the place then established, and having acted in pursuance of licenses given by the officers in authority, were guilty of nothing for which the other party to the civil war could punish or molest them afterwards. 5. The laws and jurisdiction of the Peruvian Government were suspended at Iquique during the time that place was in possession of its domestic enemy, and its resumption of possession gave it no power to punish American citizens for a supposed violation of its laws while they were suspended; nor to make any new law which would have a retroactive effect. 6. The whole proceeding of the Peruvian Government against the two vessels named was contrary to the law of nations, and repugnant to the principles of natural justice. I am, very respectfully, yours, Ac., J. S. BLACK. Hon. LEWIS CASS, Secretary of State. (Translated from the Spanish.) LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES, ) LIMA, 6th July, 1858. ) The Exmo Council of Ministers in charge of the executive power of Peru, having appealed to the Unite 1 d States of America, through tlie Minister Resident of the republic at Washington, against the protest and the claim for indemnity, which the undersigned made in his note addressed to H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs, under date of the 9th of February last, in favor of the owners, captains, and crews of the American ves- sels Lizzie Thompson and Georgian a, seized by the war steamer 'lumbes while loading at Pabellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos on the 24th of January of this year; the founda- tion for said protest and demand for indemnity, being that said vessels were, at the time of their seizure, engaged in a legal commerce, and consequently were not subject to capture and condemnation, or their captains and crews to punishment; and the Govern- ment of the United States having fully sustained said protest and "demand for indem.- nity," the undersigned, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America, has the honor to transmit herewith to H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Peru, the original letters addressed to the undersigned on the second instant, by Horatio Alden Wilson, master of the ship Lizzie Thompson, and Stephen Reynolds, master of the bark Georgiana, accompanied by a statement which sets forth the amount claimed by them as indemnity for the losses and damages suffered by the masters, owners, officers, and crews of said vessels, in c nsequence of their seizure by the Tumbes ; also the inventories of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana, with other documents in support of said demands. H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs will observe by the enclosed documents that Cap tain Wilson claims in his name, and for the other parties interested in the Lizzie Thomp son, the sum of $109,863 82, and Captain Reynolds in his own name and for the other parties likewise interested in the Qeorgiana, the sum of $46,850 83. Demands which the undersigned has the honor to submit to the Government of Peru begging H. E. the Minister of Foreign Affairs to take the necessary measures for their early conclusion. The undersigned avails himself of this occasion to renew to H. E. the assurance of his highest consideration. (Signed) J. RANDOLPH CLAY. To H. E. DR. MANUEL ORTIZ DE ZEVALLOS, Minister of Foreign Affairs, etc., &c. 11 DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, ) LIMA, July llth, 1858. j" I have had the honor to receive the dispatch of your Excellency of the 6th instant, with the documents therein referred to, in which your Excellency makes a demand for indemnity for the capture of the American vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georyiana, in view of the fact that the Government of the United States have fully sustained the pro- test which, in regard to the same matter, your Excellency \vas pleased to direct to this Department on the 9th of February last. By the tenor of the response which the Hon. Secretary of State made on the 26th of May last to the note which the Minister Resident of this republic, Don Juan Ignacio de Osma, addressed to him on the 27th of the previous March, an authentic copy of which has been transmitted to me, it simply appears; that His Excellency, alluding to the opinion given by the Attorney General, after expressing the view which the enlightened Cabinet of Washington had taken in regard to the legal question, H. E. concludes with an expression of the hope entertained by the President of the Union that the Govern- ment of Peru, reconsidering the circumstances, would not hesitate to authorize adequate compensation for the capture of the aforesaid vessels. But as there were well founded reasons to give a satisfactory reply to so important a communication, Mr. Osma, in due season, gave it in proper form, having, moreover, received ulterior instructions from my government to conclude the pending negotiation. In this view the Council of Ministers, in charge of the executive power, have directed me to state to your Excellency, that they cannot take into consideration the demand which your Excellency has deemed it convenient to institute; both because in the present state of the question, it is evidently premature, and because said question being under discussion, by agreement, directly with the Government of the Union, it would become distorted, inconvenient, and complicated if discussed at the same time with your Excel- lency in this capital. I avail myself of this occasion to renew to your Excellency the assurance of the par- ticular regard and distinguished consideration, with which I remain your Excellency's obedient servant, MANUEL ORTIZ DE ZEVALLOS, To H. E. the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the U. S, Record of the sentence pronounced in the first instance against Captain Stephen Rey. nolds of the Georgiana, in the trial for seizure now in course, CALLAO, May 6th, 1858. It appears, 1st. That, under date of the 28th of December of last year, the North American vessel Georgiana was dispatched from Iquique for foreign parts, according to the document at page 10 : 2d. That, six days before, that is, on the 22d of the same month, the Captain Stephen Reynolds made and concluded a charter-party with Don Jose Santos Osa, for himself and in the name of Lequeleque & Bordes of Valparaiso to load in his vessel all the guano which she could take from the national deposits at the south of Iquique, and transport the same to the port of Cork, in Ireland, in virtue of the stipulations of said contract, and the license or permission given by Don Felipe Riva?, arrogating to himself the title of General and Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, as appears by the original documents on pages 11 and 13 : 3d. That in consequence thereof, and in conformity with the orders of the charterer, said captain sailed for the Punta de Lobo?, where after having anchored, he commenced loading his vessel with the guano which was then ready, and the number of tons of which amounted to 130, more or less, as he states in his declaration at page 17. And in view of the fact that by articles 15 and 17 S3 of the Supreme Decree of March 21st 1852, arts. 1st, 3d, and 4th, of the 10th of May of the same year, article 1st of the 5th of January 1857, the law of March 31st of the same year, and article 213 of the Regulation of Commerce, all national or foreign vessels are ab-olutely prohibited from entering or anchoring in ports not open, much less in those in which there might be guano, and with the intent to export it. And that by the aforesaid Supreme Decrees it is only permitted that guano should be embarked for foreign parts, at the Chincha Islands, and this exclusively by the consignees of the State, with the legal requisites and license of the Supreme National Government, the only authority which can grant it. And finally, that said captain could not plead ignorance, when anchoring at Iquique, of what he was or was not permitted to do, in observance of the fiscal laws of the Republic, and that it is clearly proved that the Captain of the North American vessel Georgiana not only entered and anchored in Punta de Lobos, but that he also loaded guano, the property of the State, infringing all the fiscal laws of the Re- public, by which it is prohibited, and thereby making himself liable to the penalties set forth in them. On these grounds, and in conformity with the petition of the Contadaria (Comptroller), we decree, in judgment of first instance, that we should, and do condemn to the penalty of confiscation, in conformity with the laws and Supreme Decrees already cited, the aforesaid North American vessel Georgiana, with all her appurtenances, apply- ing her value to the Commander of the National war-steamer Tumbes, Don Ignacio Dueflas, and other captors, in the mode and form prescribed in article 298 of the Regu- lation of Commerce ; excepting the guano now on board, as it belongs to the State. Let it be known. PEDRO SALMON. Senor Don Pedro Salmon, Collector of this Custom-House, and Judge of Confiscations of this Province, while holding open Court, gave and pronounced the aforesaid sentence, on the day of its date, which I hereby certify. PEDRO CUBILLAS. The foregoing conforms with the original sentence, to which I refer in case of ne- cessity, and in virtue of my orders. I give the present in Callao, May 21st, 1858. PKDRO DE CUBILLAS. Record of the sentence pronounced in the first instance ngainst Captain H. A. Wilson of the Lizzie Thompson, in the trial for seizure now in course. CALLAO, May 6lh, 1858. It appears, first: that Don H. A. Wilson, Captain of the American ship Lizzie Thomp- son, celebrated a charter-party with Don FedericoFreraut, to load in his vessel all the guano which she could hold, and 'transport it to the port of Cork, in Ireland ; as appears by the original document, ou page 1. 2<1. That with that object she sailed from the port of Iquique, destined for Pabellon de Pica, where she was captured by the war-steamer Tumbes, having already embark* d more than 200 tons of guano, part of that which she was bound to receive on board by virtue of the stipulations in said contract, and the permit or license issued by Don Fel.pe R vas, ar- ro^ating to himself the title of General and Comrnander-in-Chief of the Navy, as is proved on pao-es , and declaration of pages . And considering, that in accordance with ar- ticles 15 and 16 of the Supreme regulannentary Decree of the 21st of March, 1852 ; arti- cles first, third, and fourth of that of. the 10th of May of the same year; article first of 5th of January 1857 ; the law of the 31st of March of the same year; and article 213 of the Regulation of Commerce, all national or foreign vessels are absolutely pro- hibited, under penalty of confiscation, from entering or anchoring in ports which are not open, and much less in those in which there may be guano v : that by said Supreme Decrees, the exportation of guano for foreign parts is only permitted from the Chincha Islands, and this only by the consignees of the State, undtT the legal requisites and license of the Supreme National Government, the only authority competent to grant it, of which circumstance the Captain of that vessel could not have been ignorant, since, so soon as he anchored in Iquique, he was obliged to know what he was or was not per- mitted to do, in strict observance of the Regulations and fiscal laws of the Republic; and finally, that it is proved that the aforesaid captain not only entered and anchored at Pa- bellon de Pica, but that he embarked in his vessel guano belonging to the nation, infring- ing all the fiscal laws which prohibit it : for these reasons, agreeing with the Contaduria, we decree, in judgment of first instance, that the North American ship Lizzie TJiomp- son merits confiscation, in conformity with the provisions of the Supreme Decrees, and laws already cited, applying her value to the Commander of the National war- steamer Tumbes, Don Ignacio Duenas, and other captors, in the mode and form pre- scribed in article 298 of the Regulation of Commerce, excepting the guano existing on board, which belongs to the State. Let it be known. PEDRO SALMOX. The Collector of the Custom-House, and Judge of Confiscations, gave and pronounced the above sentence while exercising jurisdiction, and holding open Court, on the day of its date, the employees of the office being witnesses. PEDRO DE CUBILLAS, Notary of Customs. The foregoing conforms with the original sentence, to which I refer in case of necessity, and in virtue of my orders. I give the present in Callao, May 26th, 1858. PEDRO DE CUBILLAS, Notary of Customs. (Translation. 1 ) NEW YORK, August 4th, 1858. The undersigned, Minister Resident of Peru, has had the honor to receive the commu* nication of the Hon. Secretary of State of the United States bearing date the 22d of May last, with its accompanying documents, and is gratified at having contributed to convince the Hon. Secretary of the absence of all grounds for the peremptory reclam- ation pressed by the Minister of the United States in Lima, on account of the affair of the American bark Dorcan O. Yeaton. The satisfactory result of the Hon. Secretary's investigations in that regard, happily relieves the undersigned from the necessity which he might otherwise have been under, to dissent from various comments upon the facts, and several of the views of public law, with which the Hon. Secretary was pleased to accompany his conclusions. So far therefore as concerns the case alluded to, the under- signed confines himself to an expression of the satisfaction with which the Government has welcomed the termination of so leading a portion of the controversy set on foot by the Minister of the United States in Peru. Before proceeding with further reply to the communication of the Hon, Secretary of State, the undersigned asks leave to rectify one among the errors committed in the translation of his note of the 27th of March. The undersigned said therein, "that the 85 Hon. Mr. Cass had stated to him that there were cases in which a vessel of war might be excused for visiting merchantmen on the high seas, and that the Government of the United States in such cases would make no formal reclamation, &c" The phrase "might be excused" was rendered "might be justified" and the undersigned was placed, by so grave a misinterpretation, in the position of saying, what, in view of the principles maintained for fifty years by this Government, in respect to the right of visit- ation on the high seas in time of peace, and indeed what in view of the language of the Hon. Secretary himself in the interview referred to, it was out of the question that the undersigned could have asserted. The undersigned observes, with profound regret, that he has not been able, as he had confidently hoped, to secure the assent of the Cabinet of Washington, to that solution of the remaining question, in regard to the American vessels Georgi.ana and Lizzie Thompson, which to his Government and himself has seemed just and in conformity with the estab- lished principles of the law of nations. He is nevertheless gratified to observe that the Government of the United States, confiding in the friendship and loyalty of the Govern- ment of Pern, has abstained from elevating the matter to the level of an international dispute, allowing it rather to remain as a simple reclamation for damages the position which it naturally and properly occupies. Regarding it in this last point of view, and, indeed, in every other, the undersigned still entertains the hope that it will be in his power to satisfy the Government of the United Stales, of the legitimacy of the proceed- ings of the Peruvian Government in the premises, and the total invalidity of the claims which are sought to be founded thereupon by the parties interested. While repre- senting, in this, the views, and obeying the instructions of his Government, the under- signed does not fail to recognize the characteristic ability with which the Hon. Secretary of State, sustaining himself by the opinion of the Hon. Attorney-General, has maintained the adverse view of the question. But the undersigned, at the same time, has not been able to avoid perceiving, in the written argument of the eminent jurisconsult referred to, what seems to the undersigned a signal departure from the principles laid down, in similar cases, by the authorities generally approved, and he therefore feels it is his duty frankly to state the reasons which justify his dissent from the conclusions therein asserted. Without entering into minor details, the undersigned believes that the respective arguments of the Honorable Secretary of State and Attorney-General may be reduced to the support of the following propositions: 1. That at the time of the seizure of the vessels referred to, a civil war existed in Peru, and that one of the belligerent parties having possessed itself of the port of Tquique and the gunno deposits in Punta de Lobos and Pabelion de Pica, had estab- lished nnd maintained at those poin's n government defaclo. 2. That the vessels in question, having sailed to Iquique, in the prosecution of a lawful trade and under the guaranties of the existing treaties between the two nations, were under an obligation to conform to the regulations which they found established there, by the existing authorities, without responsibility to the Lima Government for the conse- quences of such conformity. 8. That the captains of the said vessels were not only under an obligation to obey the constituted authorities de facto in Jquique, but had, at the same time, the perfect right to avail themselves of the licenses which were issued to them there, to load guano at the other two points ; and further, that under the laws of nations, the said licenses afforded them guaranty and protection against the seizure and confiscation of their vessels and the punishment of those on board, when the Lima Government, through the means of the national ship Turnbes, was enabled subsequently to capture them in the act of loading guano, in open violation of the laws referred to by the undersigned in his communication: of the 27th of March. 86 Thp undersigned does not deem it important to continue the discussion of the question, whether the movement of General Vivanco had or had not reached the point of actually establishing a civil war in Peru, at the time when the events occurred which are now in controversy. Whether there was really a civil war, or a mere insurrection, more or less serious and extended, is altogether immaterial, in the opinion of the undersigned, so far as the principles of public law are concerned by which the present case is governed. The doctrine to which the Government of Peru feels justified in adhering, and in the presentation of which the undersigned regrets to perceive that he hud not the good for- tune to make himself as clear to the Honorable Secretary of State as he had desired, is this: That in order to confer upon the individuals of friendly nations, the rights of neutrals between belligerents, as in case of war, the mere existence of a parti;. 1 revolution, un- equivocal as it may be, does not suffice, nor the actual, forcible possession, by the revolted party, of an integral portion of the revolutionized territory. There is an indispensable necessity for something further. It is necessary that the Government, in favor of whose citizens neutral rights are in such case invoked, should have recognized, previously and officially, the existence of what is sought to be treated as a civil war. In the absence of such official recognition, civil war, however actual and existing it in fact may be, does not exist in law as the basis of any claim of right whatever, on the part of the citizens of such nations as may have failed to recognize it, and the existence of such civil war is therefore a question purely of law, and not of fact or of proof, as the Honorable Secretary of State supposes and argues. The Honorable Attorney-General, led on by the force of his personal convictions, which are certainly worthy of all consideration, has been pleased to characterize as " perverse'' whoever should venture to deny the sovereign and legitimate authority as respects other nations to their citizens of a victorious revolutionary party, in actual possession of the whole revolutionized country. The Supreme Court of the United States, ap- proving the decision of the Lord Chancellor of Great Britain, in the case of the city of Berne against the Bank of England (9 Veazey, 348), which will be hereafter considered, appears to have differed in opinion with the learned Attorney-General upon this point, and to have held that even in the extreme circumstances stated, it was indispensable to the legitimacy of the new government that it should have been officially recognized by the nation before whose tribunals it might seek the enforcement of any right. But even if this weie not so, the undersigned would still be under the necessity of questioning the application, to the present case, of the argument referred to, even although by so doing he should expose his doubts to the imputation of similar perversity, The present con- troversy has reference to a faction still struggling for power, and not a revolution which had been consummated. It is the case of a supposed civil war still pending and in- volving the relations and respective rights of belligerents and neutrals, It raises no question as to a civil war ended, where there are neither neutrals nor belligerents any longer. The portion therefore of the Attorney-General's argument which has been cited is wanting in that analogy which alone could give it force, and fails, in consequence, to affect the principle asserted by the undersigned, against which it was directed. Nor does the undersigned discover in the citations of the Honorable Attorney that confirmation of the positive conclusions arrived at in his opinion, which the learned col' league of the Honorable Secretary of State so emphatically attributes to them. The quotation from Vattel (Book 3, chap. 18, sec. 295), in which that eminent publicist asserts the principle, "that the two parties to a civil war are to be regarded for the time as dis- tinct political societies, and stand in the same predicament as two belligerent nations," is far from controverting in any particular the doctrine which the undersigned is advancing. On the contrary, if the Honorable Secretary will be so good as to examine the original, he will find that Vattel directs himself expressly and exclusively to the relations of the 87 belligerent parties between themselves, -without touching, even remotely, the question of their relations with other nations or the individuals who compose them. In the well- known case of the Sanlisima Triuidid (7 Wheaton, 337), referred to by the Attorney- General in the same connection, the Supreme Court of the United States makes use, it is true, of the language winch the Attorney-General has copied, but it is with the interpo- sition of a single word, which appears to have escaped the attention of that learned (fficer, though it gives to the sentence quoted a directly opposite signification in its ap- plication to the present argument. The expression of the Honorable Attorney is as fol- lows ; " Each of them" (that is to say, the two parties to a civil war) " is deemed by us to be a belligerent nation, having, so far as concerns us, the sovereign rights of war, and entitled to be respected in the exercise of those rights.'' The language of the Supreme Court, as it. appears in the Report, is the following, viz.: "The Government of the United States has recognised the existence of a civil war, be- tween Spain and her Colonies, and has avowed a determination to remain neutral between the parties, and to allow to each the same rights of asylum, hospitality and intercourse. Each party is therefore deemed by us a belligerent nation, having, so far as concerns us, the sovereign rights of war, and entitled to be respected, in the exercise of those rights." In view of the application of the omitted, but essential, word "therefore," it appears to be matter of demonstration that the Supreme Court not only did not desire to lay down tho absolute doctrine sought to be attributed to i';, but, on the contrary, based the separate and belligerent existence of the parties referred to, exclusively upon the previous recogni- tion, by the Government of the Union, of the existence of a civil war between them. Obvious and indisputable as this inference must be, the undersigned draws it with still greater confidence, in contemplation of the frequent occasions of, which the Supreme Court of the United States has availed itself to reiterate and confirm the identical doc- trine. In the case of Rose vs. Himely, (4 Cranch, 272), the high tribunal referred to ex- presses itself in the following manner t "The Colony of St Domingo, originally belonging to France, had broken the bond which connected her with the parent state, had declared herself independent, and was endeavoring to support that independence by arms. France still asserted her claim of sov^ ereignty, and had employed a military force in support of that claim. A war, de facto then unquestionably existed between France and St. Domingo. It has been argued, that the Colony having declared itself a sovereign state, and having thus far maintained its sovereignty by arms, must be considered and treated by other nations as sovereign in fact, and as being entitled to maintain the same intercourse with the woild that is main- tained by other belligerent nations. In support of this argument, the doctrines of Vattel have been particularly referred to. But the language of that writer is obviously ad- dressed to Sovereigns, not to Courts. It is for Governments to decide whether they will consider St. Domingo as an independent nation, and until such decision shall be made or France shall relinquish her claim, courts of justice must consider the ancient state of things as remaining unaltered, and the sovereign power of France, over that colony, as still sub- sisting." In the case of Gelston vs. Hoyt (3 Wheaton, 324), the Supreme Court reasserts the same principle, in the language following : "No doctrine is better established than that it belongs exclusively to Governments to re- cognize new States in the revolutions which may occur in the world ; and until such recog- nition, either by our own Government, or the Government to which the neio State belonged, courts of justice are bound to consider the ancient state of things as remaining -unaltered. This was expressly held by this Court, in the case of Rose vs. Himely, and to that decision, on this point, we adhere. And the same doctrine is clearly sustained by the judgment of foreign tribunals." At page 634 of the same volume, in the criminal case of Palmer, the Supreme tribunal reiterates the same doctrine?. Latterly, in the year 1852, the Honorable Chief Justice of the United States pronouncing the judgment of the Court, in the case of Kennett vs Chambers (14 Howard, 46), expresses himself in these words: " Undoubtedly, when Texas had achieved her independence, no previous treaty could bind this country to regard it as a part of the Mexican territory. But it belonged to tho Government, and not to individual citizens to decide lohen that event had taken place." And on pp.ge 51, the Chief Justice, confirming the decisions already cited, adds: " The question whether Texas had or had not, at that time became an independent state was a question for that department of our Government, exclusively, tuliich in charged with our foreign relations. And until the period ichen that department recognized it as an independent state, the judicial tribunals of the country were bound to consider the old state of things as having continued, and to regard Texas as apart of the Mexican territory." The high American authority, Mr. Wheaton, commenting upon some of these decisions in his elements of International Law (Part 1, chap. 2, sec. 10), concludes his observa- tions thus : "This question must be determined by the sovereign legislative or executive power of the other states arid not by any subordinate authority, or by the private judgment of their individual subjects." And it is further to be observed that the principle so emphatically adopted and pro- mulged by the Supreme Court of the United States does not appear, in any way, to au- thorize the restriction supposed by the Honorable Attorney-General to exist, when he indicates the following as the limit of the legitimate doctrine upon the subject, viz. : "It has been doubted whether a mere body of rebellious men can thrust itself among the family of nations and claim all the rights of a separate power, upon the high seas, without some sort of recognition from foreign governments." It were barely impDSsille to employ language more remote from doubt upon the sub- ject, than that used so repeatedly by the Supreme Court and the cases to which that language is applied are very far from having exclusive reference to rights which are to be exercised on the high seas. On the contrary, in the case of Eose vs. Himelv, the cap- ture in question was made by a cruiser of the French Government and not by a vessel of the rebels: and the principles laid down by the Court had no connection whatever with the privileges or rights of the latter upon the ocean. The case of Kennett vs. Cham- bers arose out of a personal contract, having no relation of any sort to the maritime rights of Texas as a revolted province. And, surely, indeed it would be strange, if an official recognition by foreign governments were requisite to give to " a mere body of rebellious men" the rights of belligerents upon the high seas, and were not requisite to clothe the very same rebels with the rights of belligerents on shore. It seems difficult to comprehend the principle upon which such a distinction could with any plausibility be rested. Neither has the Supreme Court, in the judgment of the undersigned, left any room for the other distinction which the Honorable Secretary of State has united with the Attorney-General in seeking to draw: that is to say : that the necessity of an official recognition, by foreign nations, exists only where the independence of a revolted colony or province is in question, and is not involved in the simple case of a domestic war, whose only object is to change the personnel of an existing government. In the above- mentioned case of Palmer (p. 635), the Supreme Court speaks, in express words, of the recognition " of the existence of a civil war," and not of the recognition of the inde- pendence of a revolutionary colony. So, in the case of the Sanlisima 2rinidad, the Court 89 declares, with equal emphasis, that although the Government of the United States had not recognized Buenos Aj'res " as a sovereign, independent government," it had never- theless " recognized the existence of a civil war, between Spain and her colonies," which latter sufficed, and was requisite, to confer upon those colonies the legitimate character of belligerents. And in order to remove all doubt upon the point, and to show that the Supreme Court intended to apply the doctrine in controversy as well to those internal revolutions which only alter the form of government, or contemplate a change in the individual rulers of nations already established, as to those civil wars whose object is to introduce a new arid independent member into the national family, it is only necessary to recur to the aforementioned case of the City of Berne against the Bank of England (9 Veazey, 348), decided by Lord Elden in the British Court of Chancery, and adopted as authority by the Supreme Court, in Gelston vs. Hoyt. The question there arose upon a claim set up, in 1804, by the new revolutionary government of Berne, in Switzerland, to certain public funds of that city which had been invested by the ante-revolutionary authorities of the same. The Lord Chancellor ruled against the plaintiffs, assigning as his only reason, that the British Government had not recognized the substituted Govern- ment of Switzerland, and the British Courts, therefore, could not admit the lawfulness of its existence, or give to it judicial recognition. And if a government, a ruler, or a war, each or all of thorn, existing as such, in fact, are yet incapable of a legal existence before the tribunals of foreign nations, in the absence of an official recognition by the governments of those nations, surely they must be incapable of such legal existence a fortiori, as regards the individual citizens or subjects of the same. Indeed, it is not easy to perceive the plausibility of the distinction proposed to be drawn by the Honorable Secretary, between the necessity, which he admits, for the recognition of the existence of a civil war, where its object is the independence of a colony, and the absence of such necessity, where the civil war aims only at a domestic revolution. The question mooted here, is as to the existence or non-existence, in Peru, of a civil war, in the contemplation of the laws of nations. It is not a question as to the origin of such war, nor as to its purposes, but simply as to its legal existence. And if, when Peru, as a colony, was engaged in open, actual war with the mother country, that war did not exist de jure, as to the citizens, or before the tribunals of the United States, until the American Government had first, officially, recognized its existence ; if after Peru had conquered, nnd actually attained her independence, that independence still required an official recognition from the Government of this Union, before it could exist in contemplation of the laws of the Union, how is it possible to argue, logically, now, that the mere existence in fact of a civil war in the present case, unrecognized by this government, can produce, of itself, and without any recognition whatever, the legal con- sequences of a civil war de jure? Upon what principle is it, that the recognition which was indispensable in the first two cases, ceases to be requisite in the third? The doctrine of the Supreme Court is founded upon a principle which is equally applicable to all three of the cases, and governs them alike. It is the lofty and control- ing principle announced by the Chief Justice, in the case of Kennett vs. Chambers that the management and settlement of international questions tie serious and delicate questions of peace and war are the exclusive prerogative of governments, and have not been confided even to the tribunals of justice much less to the caprice, the interests, or the passions of private individuals. It is a principle which is not only allowed by way of favor to revolutionized nations, but is insisted upon by other countries on their own behalf, and for their own protection. If a civil war, without having been recognized as such by foreign nations, confers, ipso facto, upon the parties thereto the obligations of belligerents, it must of necessity confer upon them, and equally without such recogni- tion, the rights of belligerents likewise, so that the Government rebelled against must, from that moment, stand discharged from all responsibility for the outrages which may be perpetrated by the rebels, within its territory, against the citizens of other nations, or 12 90 their property. And it is because nations are not willing to allow each other thus to go free at their mere will and pleasure from their mutual obligations and responsibilities, that they have reserved the right of determining, each for itself, whether a case has arisen sufficiently exceptional to modify the ordinary rules, and have refused to treat the existence of a civil war as any ground of excuse or of right, unless they themselves, pur- suing the line of policy which they may judge convenient, have seen fit to recognize its existence, officially, 'beforehand. And unless the undersigned is greatly in error, the Honorable Secretary of State, him- self, w T hile denying this principle in the latter portion of his argument, makes what is logically a concession of its consequences, when he admits, with reference to the Dorcas C. Yeaton, that "Peru, so far as respects the effect of its political condition upon its intercourse with other powers, was in a state of peace." It would seem impossible to conceive the idea of a nation in a state of peace, so far as regards its rights, and at the same moment in a state of war so far as regards its obligations and the rights of foreign- ers. If peace existed, civil war could not by possibility exist. If, as the Honorable Sec- retary further states, " neither of the parties claimed any of the rights of a belligerent connected with that (foreign) intercourse, so that the foreign relations of the country were undisturbed by its domestic communications" "nor," as he adds, "were foreign vessels pronounced to be neutrals " how can all this be true, with reference to the case of the Dorcas C. Yeaton, and yet fail to be equally true in regard to that of the other two vessels when the only difference, in this point of view, between the two cases is, that the United States asserts the facts in the one, and Peru sets up the same facts in the other ? If there be any force in what the undersigned has propounded, he might leave, with- out further discussion the remaining, subordinate points which have presented them- selves in this controversy. But the gravity of the principal question does not leave the undersigned at liberty to be governed altogether by his own convictions. He therefore proposes addressing himself, briefly, to the two remaining propositions, in maintaining which the Honorable Secretary and his learned colleague, the Attorney-General, have concurred. Conceding, for the sake of the argument, that the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson sailed to the port of Iquique, in the prosecution of a lawful commerce, it must needs be granted, and the undersigned has no hesitation in admitting, that they were there, under the guaranties of the treaty existing between the United States and Peru. They had the perfect right to enter and depart, conforming themselves to the regulations which they found to exist, and obeying the established authorities de facto. But they were not con- tent with this. Instead of departing, in the further prosecution of the same lawful trade which is supposed to have led them there, they allowed themselves to be se- duced in quite another direction. From obeying the local de facto government, they proceeded to do what was a wholly different thing, namely, to contract with that gov- ernment, or under its authority, for the spoliation of the national property. They knew perfectly well, that the local authorities formed part of a body of rebellious men, exercis- ing but a partial and violent jurisdiction, maintained exclusively by force of arms, and without any recognition whatever, as a government, by the United States, or by any other nation whatever. They knew, or they were bound to know, what were the existing laws of the republic, promulgated notoriously, over and over again, by that Government of Peru with which exclusively the Government of the United States held diplomatic and friendly relations. They were perfectly aware that the guano deposits formed the most important part of the national property. They did not hesitate, nevertheless, to precip- tate themselves, voluntarily and with full knowledge, into a violation of the laws re- ferred to, and thereby to incur the severe penalties which they prescribe, without any other security than that of a license issued for the occasion by a self-styled military au- thority of the revolutionary party. 91 The mere slatementof these facts appears to the undersigned to draw the obvious line between the active or passive obedience legitimately due to an existing local authority and the voluntary acquisition of positive rights through the medium of such authority's intervention. The right to enter the port of Iquique; to be received as citizens aud ves- sels of a friendly nation ; to be protected whilst they obi-yed the local and Custom- House laws, and to depart, without further responsibility, upon lawful voyages all this, it must be admitted, was the perfect right of the captains in question, and their ves- sels. But it was a peaceful right, under treaty guaranties. When, however, they went so far as to take possession of the public property, they appealed, at once, to what could only be, at the best, a possible right of war, and they took upon themselves the respon- sibility and the risk, not only of the title of the supposed belligerents, but also of the consequences which might be visited upon themselves as participants in the violence committed by the parties with whom they became thus connected. If the absence of all recognition of the state of war, on the part of the Government of the United States, rendered such war a non-existing thing, so far as the citizens of the United States were con- cerned, as the undersigned believes that he had already demonstrated, it is, of course, unnecessary to repeat that the parties can predicate no claim of title, or to protection, after the circumstances thus de-tailed. But apart from this, conclusive as it is, and sup- posing, as before, for the sake of the argument, the legal existence of such civil war, the undersigned has been utterly unable to discover any principle of public law which denies to the Government of Lima, even as a belligerent, the right to interfere, in order to pre- vent the spoliation of the public property, and to punish those engaged in it, who might be seized in the very commission of the criminal act. No such principle, certainly, is established in the case cited by the Hon. Attorney- General from 9 Crunch, 191. The Supreme Court did no more, in that case, than decide that the conquest of the Island of Santa Cruz by the British, had converted the territorial products of that island into British, and therefore enemy's, property. But Great Britain was an established nation which had seized the island as prize of war; it was not a body of rebels who had managed to obtain temporary possession of a portion of the territory of their country. So too, the property captured, in the case referred to, was private property, taken upon the high seas, on its way to a market. It was not public property, remaining, still, with the parties who were despoiling it, upon the very spot where the outrage was being committed. Neither does the case of the United States vs. Rice (4 Wheaton 246), also cited by the Attorney-General, appear to the undersigned to establish any adverse doctrine. There, the Supreme Court determined only, that the conquest and military occupation, by Great Britain, of a port belonging to the United Slates, rendered the same, for the time being, a foreign port, in contemplation of the Custom-House laws of the Union ; and that the restoration of the authority of the latter over such port did not render the jus post liminii applicable, or create any responsibility to the laws of the United States, on the part of those who had imported goods there during the hostile occupation. In that case and the preceding one, the conquest and hostile possession were the acts of a declared public enemy, in the prosecution of a public war, and the ruling of the Court does no more than recognize and authorize temporary obedience to the regulations established by the conquerors, and enforced by their military power. If the accused, instead of having carried merchandise to the port of Castine, paying the duties levied by the English upon such importations, had, with full knowledge, purchased from the enemy a portion of the public property of the United States, or had complicated himself with them in despoiling such property, and had been captured thereafter, on the spot, by the American forces, with the property thus criminally acquired still on board of his vessel, there might then, perhaps, have been some analogy between that case and the present. Yet even then, it would still have been the case of a conquest made and authority con- ferred by a public enemy, in a perfect war, and not one involving merely the forcible pos- session of a rebellious party. The case quoted from Gallison (vol. 2, p. 485), turns upon the same principles as that of the United States vs. Rice, in nowise confounding simple obedience to an authority de facto, or the immunity which follows such obedience, with the acquisition of positive rights through contracts made with such authority, or under its auspices. The explicit language of Mr. Justice Story, on pages 602, 503, leaves no room for doubt upon the subject. And indeed it would have been remarkable if the obvious distinction referred to had not be?n respected, when we consider the principle which is at the foundation of the whole matter. Strangers visiting the territory of a friendly nation secure them- selves against all responsibility, by obeying in good faith, what is commanded by the authorities actually existing at the place of their visit but why? Because they are under compulsion so to obey, and it would not be just to hold them responsible for what they could not lawfully resist, or possibly avoid. The immunity which such obedience brings with it is the correlative of the obligation and the necessity to obey. But when there is no such obligation, and no necessity whatever; when what is done is not a tiling commanded or prescribed, but purely and wholly volantury and gratuitous -whence proceeds the right to claim immunity ? Surely no such right can exist, unless the obliga- tion of obedience be confounded with the privilege of speculation. There was no law, there was no regulation whatever, on the part of the intrusive authorities of Iquique which imposed upon foreigners the obligation to buy, to load, or to transport guano. If the parties did any of these things or engaged to do them, it was for their own pleasure, or their own profit, without compulsion, or the shadow of compulsion. It was because they thrust themselves forward, in a spirit neither friendly nor honorable, to take advantage of the unfortunate circumstances of Peru. It was not because those cir- cumstances imposed upon them any force or necessity whatever. And to invoke, now, in their behalf, the defence that they did no more than submit to the laws which they found in operation, would be to prostitute a respectable and wholesome principle. Pursuing the train of events which the case discloses, it will be seen that the vessels in question were seized by a national armed ship of Peru, in the admitted act of doing what by the laws of that republic exposed the vessels to confiscation, and their captains and crews to the punishment affixed to robbery. In regard to the guano which was found on board of them, it can scarcely be necessary to say, that it became instantly, again, the property of the nation. If it were necessary to invoke the jus post liminii, in maintenance of this conclusion, the undersigned would entertain no doubt of his ability to satisfy the Honorable Secretary of State, that the exclusion of movable property from the operation of that principle is confined altogether to the movables of individuals, and that in every case public or national property when possibly recovered, whether personal or real, and whether it be in public or private hands, returns at once to its legitimate original ownership. But there is a principle, mucli more simple, which ap- plies to the present case, and that is that the guano in question was never in the full power of the captured parties, and had never been carried to a place of security, as is requisite to vest title in such cases, under the laws of war. (Vattel, Book 3, Ch. ] 3, sec. 196.) The act of appropriating and removing it had not been consummated, and the right of property consequently remained unaltered. The undersigned cannot avoid expressing, in this connection, his profound regret and surprise that the Honorable Secretary of State should have thought it just and proper, to characterize almost as " a piratical enterprise," the expedition of the steamer Tum- bes, which resulted in the seizure of the vessels in controversy, within the unquestionablr and sovereign jurisdiction of the Republic of Peru. No one knows better than the Hon orable Secretary, how little expressions of that sort contribute to vindicate justice or give force to reason. To controvert or discuss them would do so, perhaps, still less, and the undersigned is persuaded that in abstaining from further commentary upon them he 93 not only consults the dignity of the nation which he represents, but manifests in the most unequivocal manner, the consideration which his government sincerely entertains for that of the United States. But the undersigned, at the same time, is unable to per- ceive or admit the force of the argument with which the Honorable Secretary has been pleased to accompany the phrase alluded to. If the rights of the supposed government of Vivanco were those of a government de facto, and none other, as is conceded; and if such a government, as it cannot be denied, cease?, from its very nature, to have any rights whatever, at the instant and wherever it lacks force to maintain them it is not easy to imagine upon what right the spoliation in controversy and the participation of the American vessels therein can be made to rest, when their very seizure by the Tumbes incontestably establishes, that the revolutionary party was without the necessary force there, to secure the exercise of the privileges which it pretended to sell and protect. And let it not be said, that the day before or the day after, a different state of things had, or would have, existed. The question is, as to the day when the seizures were made. A nd if, on that day, the supposed government of Vivanco did not possess, at the places referred to, a force sufficient to protect the vessels which were there, under its licenses, and whose rights depended altogether upon such protection, it is clear that such alleged government ceased, then and there, to be a government de facto ; that its licenses became null and no effect, and that the rights which depended upon those licenses were null and ineffectual also. Tb>$ American citizens therefore who, with full knowledge and upon their own responsibility, had assumed the risk of such a result, relying upon force as the only guaranty of the insecure rights to which they pretended, had no cause to complain if those rights disappeared with the force which was to give them their only foundation and vitality. They knew, unequivocally, that the licenses which they carried were those of insurgent and unrecognized authorities, and that unless those licenses should shield them, they were guilty of a violation of the Peruvian laws and incurred the penalties prescribed for such violation. They were aware that without the force necessary to sustain them, those licenses were worth absolutely nothing. That force was wanting, surely the consequences must rest upon themselves, and not upon the government whose authority they had set at naught, plundering its treasury and tread- ing its laws under their feet. But there are other considerations, of great weight, which, of themselves alone, would justify the action of the Peruvian Government, even if that action be still regarded altogether with reference to the relations of belligerents and neutrals. Let the conduct of those who controverted the American vessels be glossed as it may, it hiid no solitary characteristic of that legitimate commerce which belligerent nations are under an obligation to respect. On the contrary, it was without more nor less than voluntary and important aid afforded to the revolutionary and traitorous forces, furnish- ing them, directly or indirectly, with the means of rendering the national property of Peru available in the war which they wore waging against their country. Leaving out of view the suspicious circumstances, developed by the provisions of the charter parties, to which the undersigned alluded in his previous communication, and which have not been and cannot be explained ; omitting, also, to comment upon the obvious and direct result of the trade referred to, in favor of the rebels there are certain positive reve- lations upon the point, well worth considering, which appear to have escaped the astute observation of the Honorable Secretary of State. In the declaration and protest, sworn to before the Consul of the United States in Lima, on the 5th of February, 1858, by the master of the Lizzie Thompson, and communicated to the Peruvian Government by the American Minister there, the following confession will be found, which is copied literally. "The authorities at Iquique granted a license for the ship Lizzie Thompson to pro- ceed to Pavilion de Pica, in that province, and load guano there on account of the Gov- ernment of Peru, to the extent of one thousand tons or more, in conformity with a contract made -with Frederick Frcraut." In the declaration of the crew of the same vessel, sworn to before the same consul, and likewise communicated to the Government at Lima, as worthy of credit, by the American Minister, the parties confess that they were captured " while the ship was takng on board a cargo of guano, under a charter-party made with the authorities DE FACTO, and sanctioned in a legal manner by the Government of that part of Peru." It consequently appears, beyond dispute, by these declarations, that at least one of the vessels seized had been allowed to be freighted by the revolutionary authorities them- selves, under the contrivance and pretext of a private commercial transaction, and that the same vessel was in the criminal act of loading grain, for the benefit and on secret account of these authorities when she was seized by the Tumbes, There is no loom whatever for doubt, in view of what the undersigned has heretofore stated with regard to her charter-party, that the other vessel was in precisely the same pcsition, commit- ting in disguise the same voluntary breach of the laws and rights of Peru, and rendering, for pay, the same assistance to her enemies. It may well be asked, under what principle of the law of peace or war an intervention, so distinct and positive, can possibly be styled legitimate. The extension which the Honorable Attorney-General is disposed to give to neutral traffic may well be wondered at, when he designates a complicity like this, with the rebels as " a trade lawful and fair in its character." Liberal as the modern doctrines may be, it will not be easy to cite a solitary respectable authority which has gone to the extreme of protecting, against the forces of a revolutionized nation, the vessels and citizens of neutral countries, prostituting themselves for hire to the material service of the insurgents, and assisting them directly in their treason, and in the spolia- tion and removal of the national property. It is not easy to imagine a more effective and substantial guilty participation in the treason itself, or an act more in conflict with the principles so becomingly and unequivocally announced by the Supreme Court of the United States, in the case of Kennett vs. Chambers (14 Howard, 50). A citizen of the United States, says the Chief Justice, " can do no act, nor enter into any agreement to promote or encourage revolt or hostilities against the territories of a country with which our government is pledged, by treaty, to be at peace, without a breach of his duty as a citizen, and the breach of the faith pledged to the foreign nation." And again, on the same page: "He is bound to be at war with the nation against which the war-making power has declared war, and equally bound to commit no act of hostility against a nation with which the government is in amity and friendship/' An allusion becomes likewise necessary, here, to a marked error on the part of the Honorable Attorney-General in a matter upon which he relies confidently and mainly, to support the positive conclusions which he is pleased to announce. The undersigned alludes to that portion of the Attorney-General's opinion, in which he makes the follow- ing assertion ; "Neither the commander of the Turnbes, nor the government which he served, has attempted to vindicate the justice or legality of these proceedings, on the ground that the clearance and license under which the Americans acted were unlawful in form or substance. It is not pretended that the authority given, on the face of the license, was insufficient to cover the acts of the persons who had it." It is not to be denied that the licenses in question were sufficient, so far as respects their mere phraseology, to cover the acts in controversy. They certainly are obnoxious to no objection for lack of amplitude in their terms, and it is quite true that no such de- fect has been ascribed to them. But the Honorable Attorney-General, upon taking the pains to examine, with a little more care, the last communication of the undersigned, and the correspondence of the Government at Lima with the Hon. Mr. Clay, would have found a positive repudiation there of the legality and regularity of the licenses referred to, both in form and substance. He would have seen, that under the commercial regu- lations of Peru regulations established and promulgated for many years, and against the force and validity of which then.; has been neither legislation, nor decree of any kind, even on the part of the pretended revolutionary government no authority whatever of the republic was clothed with the power to issue licenses for the transportation of guano to foreign parts, and that the Custom-House at Callao alone had the right to give clearances to vessels with such cargoes and such destination. And in order that no doubt may remain, and no protest may be wanting, upon a point so essential, the undersigned again insists, respectfully, upon the irregularity and nullity of the licenses in question, both, as to form and substance and he does so, altogether irrespectively of any question as to the legitimacy of the authorities by whom the licenses were issued, and the suffi- ciency of the terms of the instruments themselves. He means, distinctly, to say: That allowing to Don Felipe Rivas, for the sake of argument, all the privileges of an author- ity de facto, the said Rivas had no better right to issue the licenses in controversy, than the commander of the " Home Squadron" of the United States would possess, to author- ize the entry of a Peruvian vessel into the port of New York without complying with the custom-house laws of this country. It is not enough that an authority should be a lawful one ; it is necessary that it should at the same. time be a competent authority. It must not only'have some legitimate jurisdiction, but must be clothed with the very jurisdiction which the case requires, and which is pretended to be exercised. Let us look, then, at the facts upon which the efficacy of these pretended licenses has been rested. The rebel officer who issued them, styles himself " Brigadier General of the National Army, and Commander General of the Navy." He performed his official functions, as ia not denied, on board the rebel ship Apurimac, accompanying her on her continual voyages up and down the coast. De facto, as well as under the titles which he assumed, he was a military officer nothing more. The effigy of a custom-house which he kept up at Iquique, was but a simple farce, as appears from the affidavits of the parties interested. The captain of the Lizzie Thompson (as will appear by his formal declaration taken before the regular tribunal in Callao, and duly communicated to the Minister of the United States at Lima) on being asked in virtue of what permit or license he sailed for Pabellon de Pica to load guano ? replied " In virtue of the license granted by the Commandancia General of the Navy at Iquique, and of the special per- mission of Don Felipe Rivas, as the only authority commanding at that place." And the captain of the Georgiana, in his sworn declaration of Feby. 3d, 1858, (taken before the American Consul at Callao, and communicated by the Minister of the United States at Lima to the Peruvian Government) calls this very license of Rivas " a custom-house license," saying that when leaving Iquique, he procured a custom-house license to pro- ceed to Point Lobos and another place, to load guano." Thus this identical Rivas con- " stituted personally the only authority actually ruling in Iquique, and exercised in person, although under the forms and with the ceremonies of a custom-house, the absolute power of disposing at his mere will and pleasure of all the property of the republic on its southern coast. And yet, although perfectly aware of all this, as they themselves confess ; notified, likewise, by the very form of the licenses themselves, of the irregularity of their source ; knowing that those licenses depended altogether for their efficacy upon the authority of a military officer, without any defined jurisdiction, and only exercising local civil functions in virtue of his guns and in their temporary presence ; the claimants still pretend that no allegation of irregularity, in form or substance, can be made against their licenses, and that they themselves deserve from their government the consideration which is due to a lawful commerce, innocently undertaken, under the shield of the authorities whom it was their obligation to obey. The sole and conclusive answer to all this is that which has already been made. Neither as Brigadier General of the Army, nor as Commander General of the Navy, nor even as Administrator of the Customs at Iquique supposing him to have exercised the functions of all of the three offices, de jure, 96 as he usurped them in fact would Rivas have possessed, undef any law or decree, of custom of Peru, the right to grunt the licenses which he issued. They were irregular, usurped, and without lawful precedent of any sort; issued fraudulently, and accepted, as has been shown, with full knowledge of their defects and their criminality. Unless, therefore, an authority de facto is clothed with powers more ample than those which are the recognized attributes of the same authority, when established :> : ::/> Besides, if he resists the authority of the party in possession on the ground that another has the right of possession, he departs from his neutrality, and so violates the duty he owes to both the belligerents, as well as the laws of his own country. Mr. Osraa's rule, if carried out to its consequences, would be fatally injurious to the rights and interests of commerce. Let us see how it would operate in a case which may be readily supposed. An American vessel, bound to a distant country for purposes of lawful trade, unexpectedly finds on her arrival that a civil war has revolutionized the government at the port of her destination. Her commander is not at liberty to regard the fact as a fact ; he must come back and settle it as a matter of law, by procuring a recognition from the Government of the United States. He returns with the recognition to find that during his absence a counter revolution has restored the old order of things, and quieted the strife. The law and the fact are at cross purposes still ; still the unfortunate trader is compelled to shut his own eyes on the plain truth, and see only through the medium of his govern- ment. I know of no authority for such a doctrine. The public law of the world does not require nations to regulate their intercourse with one another by legal fictions, but by existing facts known and ascertained in the way most likely to pre- clude mistake. Although the Peruvian Minister has shown great familiarity with our judicial decisions, yet being a stranger it was natural that he should fall into some errors. It is not my purpose to assume the task of enumerating those errors in detail, but merely to remark that Mr. Osma has seemed to mistake for rules of international law, expressions which the Supreme Court used only to define the limits of its own jurisdiction. Mr. Osma, I apprehend, has also erroneously supposed that what the judges said concerning the national independence of new States, was applicable to the matter in hand. But this discussion of abstract principles is not the shortest nor the best way to settle a practical difficulty. Mr. Osma has felt this to be true. Laying aside his reasoning upon general rules, he comes at length to the very case itself. Speaking of the actual parties, their actual contact, and the actual circumstances by which they were surrounded, he makes the following frank and inequivocal admission : " The right to enter the port of Iquique, to be received as citizens and vessels of u a friendly power, to be protected tuhilst they obeyed thelocal and custom-house laws) " and to depart without further responsibility upon lawful voyages ; all this, it " must be admitted was the perfect right of the captains in question and their ves- " sels." This acknowledgment narrows the ground of controversy between the two governments very materially, and might have settled it altogether if Mr. Osma had not fallen into what appears to be another error. Mr. Osma contends that foreigners going to Iquique are justifiable in obeying the laws of the government de facto, in so far only as that obedience is entirely passive, but positive rights voluntarily acquired with the sanction of such laws are not entitled to any respect whatever. On the contrary, I hold it to be perfectly clear that, as to foreigners, the government de facto is, to all intents and purposes, substituted in the place of the late government. The persons having at present the control of the country may give to strangers every privilege which could have been conferred on them by the former rulers, in case those rulers had not been expelled. If the gov- ernment at Lima had retained possession of the guano deposits, and had authorized a cargo of that article to be shipped by an American vessel, the lawfulness of the shipment would hardly have been contested. When the place was conquered from its previous rulers all authority and jurisdiction over it, legislative, executive and judi- . - . 102 cial, So" far as foreigners were concerned with it, passed to and became vested in the conquerors. Mr. Osma does not deny that the revolutionary party had power to regulate foreign commerce at those ports which lay within the territory controlled by it, to prescribe the rate of duties payable on imports or exports, and to appro- priate the public revenue arising therefrom to its own use. How can it be said that a government to which powers like these are conceded has no authority to license the shipment of guano ? According to Mr. Osma's reasoning there are two governments in Southern Peru. Each stands in an attitude of deadly hostility to the other, but foreigners are bound by the laws of both. The one is supreme in the power to levy taxes on general commerce, but the trade in guano can be licensed only by the other. Guano is a usual and lawful article of commerce, but a dealer must refuse to take it from the parties who have it to sell, he must make his contracts with others who are out of possession and cannot deliver it. The Gov- ernment at Lima has made one law on the subject, but is wholly unable to execute it, or to protect any person who obeys it, while the revolutionary government has another law, backed by all the power which is necessary to enforce it. Under these circumstances, I am constrained to insist that an American is not punishable for failing to square his conduct by the requirements of the former law. The fact that the steamer Tumbes was able to arrest the American vessels in the act of taking in their cargoes does not prove to my satisfaction that the Government at Lima had the power to make laws at the place of the capture. A mere irruption by the forces of one belligerent into the territory of another does not create legisla- tive supremacy. A sudden dash across the border, followed by a retreat equally rapid, is not a conquest of the hostile country. Even if the Tumbes had been accompanied by force enough to subdue the country and keep possession of it, the Government at Lima would not have been authorized to punish the peaceable citizens of neutral states for acts which were lawful at the time they were done. If the commander of the Tumbes had contented himself with asserting the title of his government to the guano, by taking it out of the American vessels, and compelling them to leave the coast empty, the case would have been a very differ- ent one. While I cannot admit that even this would be justified by the law of nations, the case would not be accompanied with the aggravating circumstances which characterize the subject under consideration. But the vessels themselves were seized the masters and crew were captured, and carried out of the jurisdic- tion of one government into that of another, where they were tried and condemned under laws to which they owed no obedience. This was a severe, and as it appears to me, a cruel infliction upon the peaceful traders of the United States, for acts which were in perfect accordance with the laws of the country where they were done. The right of a belligerent to capture the public property of his enemy, has never, that I am aware, been denied, unless Mr. Osma's note is to be construed as a denial. In my opinion such captures give to the taker a title which neutrals may regard as perfectly good, and which carries with it all the incidents of true ownership, including the right of alienation. That it extends to both belligerents in a civil war. as much as to two hostile nations, must be conceded, if the writers on public law are not grossly mistaken in saying that when such a war exists, the parties are to be regarded as separate political communities. If the Government at Lima had been able to retain possession of the guano de- posits, it certainly might have authorized every act which was done by the masters of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana. The opinion has already been ad- 103 vanced by the Department, that the new government succeeded to all the rights of the old Government at Lima, as soon as the latter was expelled, and the supremacy of the former was established by force of arms. Mr. Osma insists that the masters of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson violated their neutrality by giving unlawful aid and comfort to the revolutionary chiefs. If this allegation were proved to be true in point of fact, the parties on whose behalf this reclamation is made would be wholly unworthy the protection of their govern- ment. But I have seen no evidence nor heard of any to show that they are open to such an accusation. The purchase of guano from the revolutionary government, or even the shipment of it on account of this government, is not a violation of neu- tral obligations. If Peru had other beds of guano within the territory not con- quered from her, she might, and undoubtedly would, have dealt with American citizens and other foreigners in the same way. But the Peruvian Government has rot arrested, nor tried, nor condemned these vessels, and the men who were on them, for taking part in the war, but for a violation of the revenue laws enacted by the Government of Lima. That government has ignored the fact of the war itself- denied practically the conquest of the country by- its enemies, and treated the Americans as if there had been no war and no conquest. It will scarcely fall back at this stage of the discussion, upon a charge which was not preferred against the parties before their condemnation. In conclusion, it is the duty of this government to insist upon the proper repa- ration for what it cannot but regard as a very grievous wrong. The relations which the United States have always sought to establish and maintain with Peru, are those of the closest friendship. This government is still animated by the same spirit, and trusts, with great confidence, that it is fully reciprocated. The wrong must be repaired, and the Government of the United States expects that the repa- ration will be no longer delayed. A copy of this despatch has been sent to Mr. Osma, with the intimation that no further discussion will be held here upon the subject. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, LEWIS CASS. To His Excellency Mr. DE OSMA Minister Resident of (he Republic of Peru. WASHINGTON. Sir, The questions you have submitted to me, now the subject of a correspondence between Peru and the United States, arising from the seizure under the authority of the former, of the American vessels the Georglana and Lizzie Thompson, on the 24th of last January, I have with great care considered. This was due to their intrinsic import- ance, and especially was called for by the attitude of my own government. If feeling could influence the performance of a professional duty, there is, in this instance, the strongest case for its operation. The opinion, therefore, which, after anxious examin- ation, I have formed, and am now about to express, has been arrived at from a conviction too decided to be affected by any adventitious circumstances, and whatever weight it may be entitled to, is, perhaps, in some degree, increased by that consideration. The facts, as I collect them from the correspondence, are these : Both the vessels were, at the time of their seizure, engaged in loading with guano from the deposits of that article at Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica, for exportation to foreign ports, These de- lOi posits, as well as all such deposits, have always notoriously belonged to the Government of Peru, and their exportation and the mode of making it have ever been regulated by her laws. Her principal source of revenue, for years, has been these deposits. They constitute a part of (he treasure of the nation, as much so as the bullion that may, from time to time, be in her exchequer. They contribute to her support in peace and in war, and are as vital to her interests as the imposts which daily contribute to the treasury of the United States are vital to the interests of the latter. The clearances which these vessels obtained, and under which they were loading, were not granted by the authority of Peru, nor were the licenses or contracts granted or made by her authority. On the contrary, these were all of them from a usurping body of her subjects, committing by these very acts treason against Pern. In fact, however, the usurpers had for the time actual possession of the named places, but it was in known violation of the authority of the government. Neither this possession nor the pretended government under which it was held was ever acknowledged as legal by the other nations of the world, and es- pecially, not by the United States. On the contraiy, as to the latter, Mr. Secretary Cass, in his letter to your Excellency of 22d Ma} r , 1858, when denying that belligerent rights attached to Peru because of the insurrection of Vivanco, and in seeking on that ground to make good a clai'n upon Peru for the detention of another American vessel, the Dorcas C. Yealon, and to justify the conduct of the American Minister at her Court, in the prosecution of such claim, expressly states " that the foreign relations of the "country (Peru) were undisturbed by its internal commotions." And in another part of the same letter he asserts, that notwithstanding such commotions, " the usual commer- " ciul relations between Peru and the United States were continued, and the vessels of " the former resorted to the ports of the latter, carrying freight, and searching employ- " ment as before." It is also known that during the struggle, such as it was, no legisla- tive or executive recognition of the existence of a civil war was made by the United States. On the contrary, all the diplomatic intercourse between the two governments continued unchanged, and recently a treaty was negotiated between tin-in by the execu- tive, which received, at the last session, the sanction of the Senate. Under these ciicum- stances, the question in issue between the two government?, and upon which you have done me the honor to ask my opinion is, have the United States any claim upon your government for damages or indemnity of any kind, for the seizures of the Oeorgiana and Lizzie Thompson ? First, Upon principle, irrespective of judicial or other authority, can such a claim be maintained 1 I am perfectly clear that it cannot, and for these, to me, very obvious and controlling reasons : Until there is a recognized change in the condition of a government, such government is responsible to foreign nations for all wrongs committed within its limits upon the persons or property of their subjects or citizens. This responsibility has been more than once asserted and enforced by the United States. It is ho answer to such a demand that the defaulting government was willing but unable to afford the necessary protection. The duty to protect implies and involves the ability to protect. It is the fact the failure to perform the duty, not the cause of the failure that imposes the responsibility. Every government assumes upon itself the obligation to secure other governments and their people and property against domestic wrongs, and is therefore responsible for all the consequences of such wrongs. ]f, how- ever, there exists an insurrection or rebellion, so marked and long continued as probably to result in general or permanent success, it is for other nations, upon their own respon- sibility, to decide for themselves whether they will consider the rebellious as an actual government, deal with it as such, and hold it as such to every national responsibility. Until this be done the original government is to be treated as the only government, its "foreign relations" are to be considered as " undisturbed," and its " usual commercial " relations" with other nations continue "as before." These principles are too obvious to be disputed ? an.d they indeed being admitted by Mr. Secretary Cass, in his letter o( 105 22 J May, can there be a doubt that for any wrong perpetrated upon an American citizen or his property, or upon the honor of the United States, by the insurrectionary chief Vivanco, or by his orders, the rightful Government of Peru would have been liable? If so, must it not be, is it not, equally apparent, indeed, is it not a consequence, that for an injury or wrong done to Peru by the United States, or by her citizens, under cover and through the instrumentality of the same insurrection, the United States cannot shelter themselves from the responsibility of such insurrection ? The nation may, it is conceded, by its proper department and under national amenability, adroit the insurrection, and deal with the government created by it as a legal government. But when this is done the original government is, to that extent, as far as the recognizing nation is concerned, at an end, and its responsibility for the acts of the new government is, for the same reason, at an end. Whilst, however, the relations between the original government and other nations remain unchanged ; whilst that continues to be recognized and dealt with as the only government, the existence of a rebellion or insurrection, no matter what its origin, its purpose or its condition can have no effect on the obligations of that government to the rest of the world, or impair in any degree its rights as against the rest of the world. These, all of them, remain precisely as they would have been if no insurrection or rebel- lion had occurred. Jf these propositions be correct, and I do not see how they can be questioned, it would follow, that if at the date of the seizure of the Georyiana and Lizzie Thompson, the vessels had been seized and confiscated by Vivanco, or under his authority, the United Stales would have had a clear claim for indemnity on the Govern- ment of Peru, and I have no doubt would by all proper means have exacted it. The claim upon Portugal for the destruction by a British force of the privateer General Armstrong, in a Portuguese port, and upon Naples, for oul rages committed upon American citizens and property by France or its authority, whilst that power actually governed Naples, are practical illustrations of the doctrine that inability to protect other nations or their subjects, no matter how absolute (it Avas so in each of the instances al- luded to), is no excuse for the failure to protect. This being so, must it not also, and for the same reason, be true that a nation so liable must have exactly corresponding rights against other nations and their people? To maintain a responsibility against such a nation for the wrongs of rebellious subjects, or for other unauthorized wrongs which it was not in her actual power at the time to prevent, and to maintain exemption from, liability for wrongs committed upon her, under the cover of the same rebellious or un- authorized power, is so obviously unjust, that it would seem to be only necessary to state it, to have it at once condemned. And yet the wrong done Peru, and for which these vessels were seized, was of that description, and the claim made by the United States for indemnity for the loss consequent upon the seizure must be made good, if at all, exclusively upon that ground. The idea that a civil war was in fact then existing in Peru, could give to citizens of the United States no rights against Peru, or take from Peru no rights against the citizens of the United States, unless by such war, and by some authorized public act of some legitimate authority of the United States, the antecedent relations between the two nations had become changed. These remaining the same, the rights and obligations of each necessarily continued the same, and these so continuing, the rights and obligations of the subjects and citizens of each towards the government and subjects and citizens of the other necessarily continued the same. The United States could not know and treat in all their foreign and commercial relations with the Govern- ment of Peru as if peace reigned throughout the borders of the latter, and no insurrec- tionary or rebellious standard 'had been raised, and be in a condition to hold Peru responsible for losses suffered by their citizens from acts of wrong perpetrated by unauthorized insurrection or rebellion, and at the same time have the right to exact of Peru, indemnity for acts done in maintaining her own laws against the illegal conduct of citizens of the United States. The two rights are so inconsistent that it is impossible that they can co-exist, and yet the latter is the very right which the United States are now u 106 asserting, whilst having carefully abstained from taking the only steps that could have deprived them of the former, that is to say, recognizing in a proper legal manner, before the wrong now complained of, the existence of a civil war in Peru. The doctrine ap- plicable to such a state of things as did prevail in Peru at the moment, and antecedent to the seizure of the vessels, does not depend on the fact whether war inter se the parties to it then existed or not, nor whether in its subsequent termination, its prior existence was admitted by Peru. It rests entirely on the fact, whether the United States in some constitutional form had recognized it, and by so doing, to that extent had modified their relations with Peru. This, we have seen, was not only not done, but, on the contrary, the entire intercourse between the two nations assumed the continuing, undisturbed, un- impaired, and unquestioned existence of each. The rights and correlative obligations of each consequently remained undisturbed and unimpaired, and for the good name of each should also be held unquestioned. A different doctrine would be pregnant with mis- chief. In its application to the United States it would be especially hazardous. Formed as their Union is of the States composing it, stretching from ocean to ocean, and occasion- ally, however erroneously, actuated amongst themselves by convictions of vitally con- flicting interests, it may be conceived possible that in some moment of political madness, some state or portion of a state may raise the standard of revolt, and set at defiance the constitutional and legal authority of the General Government, and for a time be in the actual possession of a sea-board town. A foreign vessel enters, finds no local authority but the usurped and known usurped one. The custom-house is in its possession. It allows entries ; it grants clearances. It admits importations without duty, or the duty it exacts it appropriates. It disposes of public property. Can any one suppose that such vessels and their officers or agents, and they escaping, that their governments would be harmless by the United States ? Would that government admit as an excuse, much less a justification for such acts, that the parties " had a right to enter any port of " the republic open to foreign commerce, and not blockaded, for the prosecution of their " commercial enterprises ; and it was their duty after such entrance to obey the author- " ities they might find established there," and that the principle " applies with equal " force to questions of internal administration touching the public revenue ?" The inquiry carries with it its own answer. State an opposite case, arising under the same circumstances. The vessel goes into the port, finding the proper authority absent or con- trolled, her master refuses to enter his cargo, his vessel and cargo, and himself, officers, and crew are seized the two former confiscated, and the latter imprisoned for refusing obedience to " the authorities" they found established there. England, whose flag the vessel bears, calls upon the United States for indemnity. Would the justice or honor of the nation for a moment refuse to render it? Would they plead the excuse, that for the time they were powerless to prevent the wrong ? Would they invoke the defence of the existence of a. civil war, and that in such a case the party in actual pos- session is the authority " established there," which it is the duty of the captain after entering, " to obey ?" No government could retain the respect of the world, which should be found maintaining such obviously conflicting propositions. And yet, the indemnity demanded in the cases I am considering, involves this very identical doctrine. Put another case : The Mormons have but recently set at open defiance the authority of the United States. The country of their residence has been for many months in their actual and conclusive possession and under their actual and exclusive jurisdiction. The territory embraces a portion of the public domain. An army of the United States is assembled to put down the rebellion. The civil war exists, the power of the govern- ment to put it down by the means under the control of the executive, is by many doubted. The struggle promises to be at least a long and arduous one. Individual citizens, not parties to the rebellion, find their way there in the prosecution "of their 11 commercial enterprises." Strangers, from other lands, are there, with like motives, and taking with them goods liable to duty on importation, into the United States. They 10T find, on getting there, no authority whatever but the Mormons. This they "find estab- lished there." If this they are bound " to obey," then, with this, as is alleged to have been the rights of the Georgiana and Lizzie Thompson" are they authorized to contract. The dutiable goods are sold by the license of actual authority, without paying imposts to the United States. The public lands are purchased, and the purchase money handed to the usurping vendors, and patents granted. Would such acts be recognized as legal by the United States ? Would the goods be held exempt from forfeiture? Would the title of the United States to the lands be held extinguished ? Would the actors be adjudged guiltless ? Certainly, yes, upon the grounds assumed by Mr. Secretary Cass, and Mr. Attorney-General Black, and yet, can any one doubt that a different doctrine would and should, in such a case, be maintained, and successfully, by the United States? Could the foreign importer or the land purchaser rely on the rights arising from a state of civil war, and be able, with effect, to stop the United States from contesting the exist- ence of such a war by the fact that they had admitted it in "the recognition," with their officers and the officers of the Mormons, said to have been recently closed, " for their "submission to its authority," and that by the terms of the treaty, "unconditionally "accepted," and approved and ratified by both sides, the state of civil war was fully recognized ? Would they then be found admitting that the restoration of their authority over the district "could justly work no forfeiture for acts previously done" under sanction of the temporary though usurped power of the Mormon rule ? Is it not, on the contrary, obvious, that all such acts would be esteemed as, from the first, wholly illegal, and imparting no right whatever, or exempting in any respect the parties con- cerned, from responsibility to the United States? And what in my view makes the claim upon Peru the more remarkable is the fact, that in the very letter of Mr. Secretary Cass asserting it, he states, what is certainly true in fact and in law, the continuing effi- cacy of their antecedent treaty with Peru, to the stipulation of which, he says, "they "hold on," being the stipulation "which guarantees protection to the citizens, without " regard to whatever changes, violent or peaceable, may take place in the government of " that country." To exact, under this treaty, without regard to changes in the condition of Peru, protection for the citizens of the United States, and to make these very changes, however violent and temporary, the justification for disregarding the laws and property of Peru, and for enforcing, as is now attempted, a claim of indemnity against her, for acts which such laws and the protection of her property imperatively demanded of her interests, honor, and sovereignty, are propositions ,so glaringly untenable and unjust, that they cannot be, even plausibly, supported by argument. Upon principle, then, irrespective of other authority, I consider the demand clearly untenable. Secondly. I proceed now to examine it on authority. It is to this source that Mr. Attorney-General Black mainly resorts, and it is there that I propose to follow him. I think it will be seen, and I say it with all respect due to his well-known ability, that he has misunderstood the cases which he refers to, and misapplied the principles which they contain. The question is (for perspicuity I state it again) : What are the legal consequences of a domestic struggle, not recognized by a foreign nation, as establishing the state of civil war, so as to give to the insurrectionists, as well as the existing government, the rights of governments in their transactions with such foreign nation, or its citizens or subjects ? Is it competent for such citizens and subjects to treat with the new party, as a government of itself, without incurring responsibility to the former government ? Mr. Attorney-General holds that it is, and on authority. Is this so? I think not, and I will try, and I hope successfully, to make that opinion good. It is to be ever kept in view, that in such state of things, two ques- tions present themselves. Ftrst, What are the rights of war inter se of the adverse parties? and Secondly, What are the rights of either, between itself and other nations? The government existing before the rebellion, or insurrection, was the only one, over the whole people, known to or recognized by other governments. The introduction of two 108 nations into the family of nations out of this one, can only be effected by the acts or assent of the former; and, until that is done, they are known but as one people, under one government. All treaties existing at the period of the insurrection remain in force. All reciprocal rights and obligations between itself and other nations remain unimpaired. Whether these are, and how far they are, to be esteemed legitimately modified or extin- guished, on the part of such government, by her inability to comply with them, because of domestic insurrection or civil war, it is for other nations to decide. She cannot of herself, as of right, set up such a defence. Until that decision shall be made, she is bound, as at first, by all national obligations, whether arising from treaties or the law of nations. To effect, therefore, a change in her condition, so as to impair her rights or diminish her duties, can only be done by other nations. And how is this to be accom- plished ? It can be, but in one mode recognizing, by each nation's proper authority, the state of civil war, and thereby agreeing to deal with each party to it as, for the time, sovereign and independent, and equally a member of the national family. But this cannot be done partially. It must be done, as to all purposes and places, for which and in which sovereignty has a right to exhibit itself. It must be extra as well as intra- territorial on the sea as well as the land. It must, of course, be so declared as to vest- each with belligerent rights, to the same extent as in the case of other belligerent nations. Wattel, in the passage cited by Mr. Attorney-General, book III, &c., ch. 18, p. 295, states that this is the result of such an event. "The parties in such a contest," he tells us, "must necessarily be considered as thenceforward constituting, at least for a "time, two separated bodies, two distinct societies, standing in precisely the same pre- " dicament as two nations who engage in a contest, and being unable to come to an agree- " ment, have recourse to arms." Here is found no limitation of such right. They are not considered by the author as clothed with these rights on the land, and not elsewhere. On the contrary, the rights are held to be identical with those of two admitted nations at war with each other. And so, indeed, in that part of his opinion, does Mr. Attorney- General understand him. " They are entitled (says Mr. Attorney) one as much as the "other, to the respect of foreigners who deal with them, or meet them on sea or land." And yet, with what is submitted as a palpable inconsistency, he disclaims, in a subse- quent portion of his opinion, the general operation, in fact, of the doctrine. He says, " I "am not required, for any purpose of this opinion, to say how far a revolutionary party " can carry on war upon the ocean, and vex the commerce of the world upon its common "highway," and adds, that it has been doubted " whether a mere body of rebellious men " can thrust itself among the family of nations, and claim all the rights of a separate "power, on the high seas, without some sort of recognition from foreign governments." And yet, why is such a recognition for that purpose required? Each, says Wattel, is an equally independent party; both, in such an event, are "precisely in the same pre- dicament as two nations " engaged in a contest. Each, therefore, does not thereby "thrust itself among the family of nations," but is, by the war itself, one of the family. That Mr. Attorney is, however, correct in requiring to give maritime rights to such a body, "some sort of recognition from foreign governments " must be admitted. But the admission proves that he has mistaken Wattel. The author did not mean to lay it down as national law, that a state of civil war, not recognized by oilier nations, in any way impaired the rights and obligations of such nations, as to the one in which the war exists, or the rights and obligations of that nation, To effect this, such a war, any- where, whether on land or sea, demands the proper recognition of its existence, by the competent departments of the other governments of the world, and the assent thereby involved, that each of the parties to it was to be esteemed, for the time being, one of " the family of nations." He was referring to the general doctrine, not to its particular application, or to the form and manner in which it was to become applicable. This, last, it is the province of each of the other nations to decide for itself. This they may do, sooner or later, but until done, each has the right, and is at its consequent 109 duty, to consider the nation where the struggle prevails, as still one and indivisible, bound by all its original national obligations, and entitled to all its original national rights. So fur from a different rule being held in the United States, the very cases cited by Mr. Attorney will show it to be that rule and no other. To examine each would unneces- sarily extend this opinion. As establishing the doctrine he supposes Watte! to lay down, Mi 1 . Attorney refers to the case of the " Santissitna Trinidad," 737. In that case one of the questions was, " whether the Independencia was a public ship, belonging to the " Government of Buenos Ayres, and entitled, in the ports of the United States, to the " privileges and immunities of a public ship." One of the objections to this title was, that Buenos Ayres had not " been acknowledged as a sovereign independent gov- " ernment by the Executive or the Legislature of the United States." And in meeting the objection, the Court held "the Government of the United States has recognized the " existence of a civil war between Spain and her colonies, and has avowed a deterruina- " tion to remain neutral between the parties, and to allow to each the same rights of " asylum, and hospitality and intercourse. Each party is, therefore, deemed by us, a " belligerent nation, having, so far as concerns us, the sovereign rights of war, and en- " titled to be respected in the exercise of those rights." Is it not clear, that this main- tains the proposition I hold, and not the one for which the Attorney cites it ? The ground, and the only ground, upon which the right of the Independencia to be esteemed a belligerent, in the ports of the United States, or elsewhere, was placed, was the ante- cedent recognition of the civil war between Buenos Ayres and Spain by the United States. It was on that account, or, to use the language of the court, " therefore" it was because of that fact, and that only, that Buenos Ayres was to be considered as belli- gerent. It obviously never entered the mind of the Court, to place the right upon the fact of the civil war itself, but exclusively upon its recognition by our government. This, if possible, is made the more apparent, by a subsequent case decided at the Mass- achusetts Circuit in 1S38, by Mr. Justice Story, the Judge by whom the opinion of the Supreme Court, just referred to, was delivered. I refer to the case of Williams and the Suffolk Insurance Company, 3d Sumner, 270. In that case, two American vessels, the Harriet and the Breakwater, had gone to the Falkland Islands on a sealing voyage, and, on their arrival there, were seized by one Louis Vernet, acting as governor of the islands, under the authority of Buenos Ayres. The former was carried to Buenos Ayres. and there, under legal proceedings, condemned, the latter was recaptured by her mate and crew, who were left on board with the prize crew, and was brought to the United States, where she was libelled for salvage. The ground taken against the claim was that the islands belonged to Buenos Ayres as a part of her dominion, and that she had the sole jurisdiction to regulate and prohibit the seal fishery, and confiscate vessels il- legally engaged in it. The United States had recognized the Government of Buenos Ayres. That government had always asserted title in the islands, but that title the United States had not acknowledged, and they, the islands, were originally a dependency of Spain. On these facts the Court held, that although, when Buenos Ayres separated from Spain, she might have (in fact she did) claimed the sovereignty also of the islands, as an appendage to her own dominion, still, " that claim, unless enforced by an actual " possession and a full recognition by other nations, could in no just sense, be deemed to " give a fixed title," and that although Buenos Ayres had " undoubtedly been recognized " by the Government of the United States as an independent government," such recog- nition could by no means be extended to an admission of its title to the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, unless some act of the government could be shown which carried it (that recognition) to that extent. Here again is the necessity of recognition maintained, as the only ground on which a revolutionary attempt to change a government can be placed so as to create between the revolutionists and other nations reciprocal rights and obligations. Such a change to such an end, requires the assent of other nations. This wanting, in whole or ID part, 110 the new candidate for admission into the national family remains, in whole or in part, out- side of it, -whilst the original government continues to be esteemed as still within it, and entitled to all its original lights, and bound by all its original obligations. A case subse- quently occurred, in which the doctrine was again distinctly announced by Mr. Chief Justice Taney, speaking for the Supreme Court, and in terras plainly applicable to the one before me. I mean the case of Kennett et al. v. Chambers, 14 Howard, 38, decided in 1852. The question there was as to the validity of an agreement, entered into within the United States, for the raising, arming, and equipping volunteers for Texas. At the time Texas had declar- ed herself independent, the civil authority of Mexico had been expelled, its invading army defeated, its chief captured, and all present power to control the newly organized govern- ment of Texas annihilated, as was recently after (the 23d December, 1836) announced by our Executive, in a message to the Senate. But her independence " had not then been acknowledged by the United Slates" And because of that circumstance, and that alone, the Court ruled the agreement to have been void. They held, that the citizen of the United States was bound to consider the Government of Mexico as still subsisting in Texas, until the executive or legislative department of his government should declare otherwise, and that the Courts of the United States were equally bound, until that event, " to consider the ancient order of things as remaining unaltered." Nor was the doctrine then new to that Court, but, as stated by the Chief Justice, it had been so settled in the prior cases of Rose v. Hirnely, 4 Cra., 272, and Hoyt v. Gelston, 3 Wheat., 324, and maintained by the English tribunals. It will also be seen Mr. Wheaton, in his " Ele- ments of International Law," gives it as a part of the general national law. He says : " Until the independence of the new State has been acknowledged, either by a foreign " state where its sovereignty is drawn in question, or by the government of the country " of which it was a province, courts of justice and private individuals are bound to con- " sider the ancient state of things as remaining unaltered." (Part 1, ch. 2, s. 10.) In a word, as far as my research has gone, and it has been as complete as I could make it, I can find no other doctrine maintained by government or jurist. But conceding that the doctrine is not as well settled and universally as applicable as I think it to be, yet this, at least, would seem to be past all possible doubt, that in such a rebellion a domestic war, such as existed in Peru at the period when the vessels in question were seized however true it may have been that their compliance with the actual regulations of the port which they entered (inconsistent as they were with the legitimate regulations) would not have subjected them to censure or confiscation, at the instance of Peru it cannot be true, that by such compliance, voluntarily made, the masters or their owners, could acquire title to properly, clearly belonging to that government. Justification or apology, from compulsory obedience to the actual power they found there, and which, as they knew or were bound to have known, had never been recognized by the United States, is one thing; but the voluntary acquisition of treasure, belonging to the government, through contracts with such power, is altogether a distinct thing. And such compulsory obedience is also entirely distinguishable from a designed violation of the laws, civil and criminal, of the legitimate government. The United States never having acknowledged the legal existence of the actual authority, but, on the contrary, having continued to treat with the original government, as the only Government of Peru, as if no civil struggle had occurred to her, their citizens could not be in a condition, by any purposed act of their own, rightfully to acquire title in the property of the government, by contract with any self-constituted adverse authority, and in disregard to the known laws of the true owner. Compulsory compliance with the orders of said authority, Peru would have no right to complain of, much less punish ; but to make a voluntary com- pliance and agreements, entered into by means of and upon the faith of such compliance, the foundation of title to the governmental property of Peru, is as unfounded in any principle of national law, as it is offensive to the commonest sense of justice. Commerce so car- Ill ried on is not, with reference to Peru or the United States, a legitimate commerce. It would, on the contrary, be a defiance of the authority of Peru, and a known breach of the laws which she had the right to establish, as a sovereign nation, binding upon all the world, and in no sense, therefore, could it be considered as legitimate. It was, to be sure, in one sense, enterprise, and commercial enterprise; but it was enterprise forbidden by law and honesty an outrage, and a known outrage, upon the authority and rights of a nation with whom the United States were at peace, and upon the most friendly rela- tions, sanctioned and secured by treaties, and should therefore receive the decided cen- sure of our government, instead of its protection. And I am gratified, though not surprised, to know that in this view such conduct has been held by two other nations, the only na- tions except our own whose subjects have engnged in such illicit traffic. The French con- sular agent at Iquiqne was the charterer of the Lizzie Thompson, and his cargo being in port laden at the time she was seized, he applied for redress to the French Charge d'Af- faires at Lima. That officer promptly and properly informed him, that as he had volun- tarily engaged in an unlawful trade, he must take the consequences, and that in making the seizure, Peru had but exercised a perfect and indisputable right ; arid he also directed him, because of his misconduct, at once to surrender his official position. This letter of the Charge was communicated to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Peru. The same capturing vessel of Peru captured at the same time, and for the same cause, several Chilian vessels ; and that government, on being applied to by the owners, also refused interference, and upon the like ground the clear lawfulness of the captures ; and this decision was communicated to the Peruvian Minister in Chile. I cannot but hope and be- lieve that a more careful consideration of the question will in the end, and at an early day, lead the Government of the United States to the same result. Deeply interested in maintaining its own rights, and the continuing integrity of its own power over every part of the Union, it should be the last to sanction conduct which may hereafter prove so mischievous to its own honor and welfare ; and, above all, should it be its pride, as it is its duty, to show, by its own example, that whilst guarding itself from the pernicious ef- fect of inadmissible and perilous principles of national law, it should scrupulously avoid asserting them in its intercourse with the other nations of the world. I have the honor to be, with high regard, your Excellency's obedient servant, REVERDT JOHNSON. Lyndhurst, near Baltimore, 24th July, 1858. NEW YORK, December 2d, 1858. The undersigned, Minister of Peru, has the honor to acknowledge the receipt of the note from his Excellency the Hon. Secretary of State of the United States, dated the 29th ultimo, and of the accompanying copy, also kindly transmitted to him, of a despatch addressed by His Excellency, with date of November 26th, to the Honor- able Minister of the United States in Peru, on the cases of the ships Lizzie Thomp- son and Georgiana, which are now the subject of a controversy between the two governments. The Honorable Secretary of State wishes that the undersigned should receive the copy of such despatch as the reply to the note he had the honor of addressing to His Excellency on the date of August 4th, and expresses the determination of the Cabinet of Washington to settle the questions raised with Peru by the mentioned cases, through the Honorable Mr. Clay. The undersigned, according to the wishes of the Honorable Secretary of State, accepts, as a reply to his said note, the despatch addressed to Mr. Clay, and accepts 112 it with all the good will with which he is inspired by the conviction that, by adopt- ing such indirect means of replying, His Excellency did not mean to indicate the existence of any objection to the person of the undersigned, whose conduct in this case, as in all his long official relations with the State Department, has been charac- terized by the same spirit of loyalty, friendship, and respect, which, from the estab- lishment of her independence to the present day, has guided Peru in her intercourse with the United States. The undersigned very sincerely regrets that the Honorable Secretary of State could not find correct the conclusions contained in the former's note of August 4th, which he founded on the authorities therein quoted ; and it seems to him, that in the state of the question now, the moment has arrived for him to fulfil in their entirety the special instructions received from his government on the matter. Accordingly, he has the honor of declaring to the Honorable Secretary of State, that the Government of Peru is ready simply to submit the question raised by the capture of the ships Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana to the decision of any Euro- pean nation, whatever, and to leave to His Excellency the President of the United States, the choice of such power, as well as the prefixing of the time for carrying the thing into effect. The undersigned has no doubt that these means, the most just and equitable that could be chosen in the circumstances, between two nations united by the ties of sincere amity and mutual respect, will be accepted by the Government of the United States ; and in this confidence, he avails himself of the opportunity for renewing to His Excellency the Honorable Secretary of State the assurances of his most distinguished consideration. (Signed) JUAN I. DE OSMA. To His Excellency the Secretary of State of the United States, "Washington. Mr. De Osma, Minister resident of the Republic of Peru, has submitted to me the message of the President to the Senate of the United States of the 8th day of June, 1858, with the accompanying documents, including the note of Mr. De Osma to the Secretary of State of the 27th of March, 1858, the reply of the Secretary of the 22d of May, 1853, and the opinion of the Attorney-General of the 15th of May, 1858 ; also the note of Mr. De Osma of the 4th of August, 1858, and the opinion of Reverdy Johnson, Esquire ; and has requested my professional opinion upon the questions involved, touching the seizure and detention by the Peruvian Gov- ernment of the American vessels, the Georgiana and the Lizzie Thompson, on the 24th of January, 1857, and the reclamations made by the Government of the United States. I have given to these inquiries a very careful attention ; and, after the maturest consideration, think that under the circumstances disclosed in those documents, the seizure and detention of the vessels named, by the authorities of Peru, were fully authorized ; and that there is no just foundation for the reclamations preferred on behalf of their owners. This conclusion rests, as I suppose, upon principles long and well established, having the sanction of the authority of publicists of acknowledged reputation, and acted upon by reiterated decisions in the Supreme Court of the United States. 113 To these decisions it is unnecessary that I should refer. They have been ex- amined and discussed in the note of Mr. De Osma, and in the opinion of Mr. John- son. A review of them by me would amount only to a repetition of what has been already well said. I content myself with expressing my entire concurrence in Mr. Johnson's opinion. The principles regulating the relations, obligations, and responsibilities of gov- ernments de facto and governments de jure, I had occasion, in an official note ad- dressed to Prince Cassaro, the Minister of Foreign Affairs at Naples, dated on the 29th day of June, 1832, particularly to examine. They were applied on that case to the acts of a government not only in the exclusive possession of the territory, but exercising all the functions of a regularly organized community, and recognized as such by other powers. (That note may be found in Senate Documents, 2d Sess. 22d Cong, Doc. 70.) Those principles I still believe to be sound; but to maintain that the authority of a regular government may be superseded by the temporary seizure, by violence of an insurrectionary force, of a portion of the public territory, and that such possession gives to the seizers the character and authority of a gov- ernment, though without any of its attributes; and- that citizens of friendly powers, maintaining diplomatic relations with such regular government, may countenance and deal with such insurrectionary force, and violate with impunity the established and known laws of the country, is, in my judgment, to do violence to consecrated principles of international law. Nor do I believe that it can with propriety be asserted, that even in a case of acknowledged civil war, its existence, and the obligations and responsibilities it imposes, are matters to be ascertained by the private citizens of foreign govern- ments. This duty and authority belong to those governments themselves, having charge of their foreign relations, and not to speculating adventurers. A different doctrine, as it strikes me, would be pregnant with the most mischievous conse- quences ; and I speak with confidence when I affirm, that the whole series of de- cisions, from time to time pronounced by the Supreme Court of the United States, will be found, when carefully examined, distinctly to negative this pre-eminently pernicious principle. JOHN NELSON. Baltimore, December 13th } 1858. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS OF PERU, ) LIMA, December 22d, 1859. f The undersigned, Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, has the honor to address His Excellency, the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States, for the purpose of making known to him the ultimate and definite resolution which the Government of Peru has taken respecting the demand made by the American Minister for indemnification to the owners and outfitters of the American ships Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, which were seized by the Peru- vian war-steamer Tamoes, whilst engaged in the illicit and forbidden guano traffic at Punta de Lobos and Pabellon de Pica. But before proceeding further, the undersigned considers it necessary to state to His Excellency in a succinct manner, all the events which have occurred relative to this affair, since the undersigned became charged with the Ministry of Foreign 15 114 Affairs, on which occasion he appreciated, in all its importance, the grave question arising out of the seizure of said ships. His Excellency Mr. Clay should recollect that on the first official visit he made to the undersigned, the llth last October, he expressed the desire that there should be a prompt settlement of all matters pending between the United States Legation and the Peruvian Ministry, especially that relative to the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana. His Excellency will also recollect that the undersigned was full of the same desire, and disposed to terminate these negotiations in as friendly and equitable a manner, as propriety and the interests of Peru would admit, while he assured his Excellency Mr. Clay, that he would give his particular attention to such matters as he might bring forward. In fact, the undersigned examined the matter with great care, and justly scrutin- ized the documents relating to this delicate question, well understanding that it was indispensable to know the value of the captured ships and their appertenances, without being understood that by favoring such a course, neither the undersigned or his government recognized any right to present a claim, nor obligation to allow the indemnity demanded. The undersigned had the honor to thus express himself to His Excellency on the occasion of his second visit, and to represent, furthermore, that the period of several days would be necessary for the official appraisement of the appertenances belong- ing to said vessels when they arrived in the port of Callao. The day following the aforesaid visit, the undersigned remitted to the Com- mandant-General of Marine, not only the inventories that had been made up by the national authorities in the port of Callao, but also those delivered by the cap- tains of the ships, all of which should have served to keep His Excellency informed that due diligence had been practiced. Whilst awaiting the completion of the appraisement, the undersigned, to his surprise, received the official note from His Excellency the American Minister, in- sisting, in a forcible manner, to know what determination the Peruvian Government had adopted in relation to the matter ; also stating that it would be desirable to have this reply before the sailing of the next semi-monthly steamer. The undersigned cannot refrain, for the present purpose, to make to His Excel- lency Mr. Clay, those just observations which appertain to the fact of his having been conformable to the exercise of those previous exertions, and which were ne- cessary for the greater enlightenment of Peru and the exigency that demanded them. The official notes under date of 2d and 4th of November, exchanged for this pur- pose between His Excellency and the undersigned, contain the memoranda of previous interviews, and proves the constant refusal of the undersigned to enter into the merits of the question, or to promise anything respecting the same, until the inventories which had been requested from the Comandante-General of the Marine should be received. These documents having been obtained, and at another interview between His Excellency and the undersigned, the American Minister stated that he could not enter into any discussion, as his instructions on this point, which were final, pro- hibited him from doing so, the undersigned replied that Peru, being a sovereign and independent nation, had the right to determine what course should be pursued in order to arrive at a settlement of the question, and she could not and ought not to admit the principle that all discussion was closed, for this principle is nothing 115 more nor less than conceding to the Government of the United States unlimited rights in the matter. At subsequent interviews between His Excellency Mr. Clay, and the under- signed, it was found impossible to devise any means by which the conclusion of the pending negotiation could be facilitated, because the Government of Peru de- fended its indisputable rights and the interests of its Treasury, and the American Minister held himself confined to instructions he had received from his Government. Furthermore, the information from the Commandante-General of Marine, and the appraisement of the said ships, made under his order by the Captain Don Antonio de la Haza, present a very notable difference from the valuation placed upon them by their captains subsequent to the seizure. At this stage of the affair, the undersigned suggested to His Excellency Mr. Clay, that he should have an interview with the Vice-President of the Republic, inasmuch as the grave importance of the question naturally called for the adoption of every available means for the settlement of the affair in a proper and convenient manner. This conference was held the 7th of that same month, and the undersigned be- lieves it useless to refer to this interview in the present note, for His Excellency Mr. Clay well knows that the Vice-President of the Republic could offer nothing more than to submit the question to an especial tribunal of the Council of Ministers for a definite solution. Long, deliberate, and prudent, was the discussion in this respectable body ; every possible measure by which the rights of Peru could be reconciled with the relations of friendship existing between her and the American Union was brought forward, to be met only by obstacles to the satisfaction of these conflicting desires. A true appreciation of the circumstances, arising from prudential counsels, had its due weight in the discussion which took place. The subject being exhausted, and after a laborious examination of all the docu- ments presented, the council, with the approbation of the Vice-President, charged with the executive power, declared a repetition of the refusal to comply with every demand for indemnification that had been made upon the Government of Peru; and that this refusal was based on those weighty reasons which had been brought to the knowledge of the American Government by the resident Minister in Wash- ington, Don Cipriano Coronel Zegarra, in his conference w^ith His Excellency Gen. Cass, on the 14th of September last. Also, that none of the dangerous consequences that may result, however sad they may be, can, in any manner, change the firm re- solve of the Peruvian Government ; and finally, that the seizure of the vessels Lizzie Thompson and Oeorgiana, the legal proceedings which took place before the Court of Confiscation, the condemnatory sentence which fell upon them and the sale which followed in consequence, are legal, unalterable, and do not in any manner compro- mise the Government of Peru. The undersigned believes it will be offensive to the well known intelligence of His Excellency Mr. Clay, should he reproduce in this communication the abundant and indestructible reasons which, pending the dilatory course of this question, have been set forth by the Senor Zevallos, Minister of Foreign Relations, and in Wash- ington by the diplomatic agents of Peru, the Senores Osma and Zegarra, The undersigned also believes it will be offensive to the same intelligence of His Excel- lency Mr. Clay, should he repeat in writing, the principles which were expressed by him in conversation at their last conference ; but he cannot excuse himself from calling the attention of His Excellency to certain events which have recently 116 occurred, the simple mention of which will be sufficient to prove that the Govern- ment of Peru, notwithstanding the conviction of the justice of its course, has omitted no means to make the matter understood by the Government of the United States, that every pretext for offence between the two countries might disappear, and a friendly satisfactory result be attained. The lengthy discussion which took place between Senor Zevallos and His Excel- lency Mr. Clay, when the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana were seized, unfortunately, did not result in producing any satisfactory mode of settlement, and the Gov- ernment of Peru had no misgivings in referring the matter to its diplomatic agent in Washington, which, in effect, was done, thus giving a proof of confi- dence in the rectitude of the United States. Not having obtained the end desired by this course, and no other result than the evident determination of that same government to render effective the claim for indemnification which could not be qualified by any just or legal title, it proposed yet another mode of settlement, acknowledged by all nations in similar cases, and even accepted under special cir- cumstances by the Cabinet at Washington. The mode proposed was the arbitra- tion of some respectable power like Great Britain, from whose impartial judgment justice might be expected. With a feeling sufficiently profound, the Government of Peru saw that the United States always refused to accept this honorable, neces- sary, and lawful arbitration; and this feeling of regret was greatly increased, inas- much as this refusal caused a strong suspicion that the Government of the United States was not satisfied of the justice of its cause, fearing an adverse judgment in the arbitration which had been proposed. Those friendly relations which Peru has so carefully cultivated with the United States do not meet with merited recipro- city, since Peru is refused that which, in a similar case, was conceded not long ago, to another section of South America. The Government of Peru went still further. It instructed its resident Minister in Washington, Senor Zegarra, to ascertain whether the Government of the United States would propose a proper arbitration which would evade the conflict which this question might occasion, and which should dissipate the fear of Peru that she has not that consideration which by right is her due as a friendly state, and that the justice which has distinguished her proceedings in all those cases of reclamation which have been presented for various causes heretofore, is not recognized. But, sad to relate, General Cass only proposed an arbitration as difficult to be entertained, as to concede the indemnity now demanded. It was proposed, in effect, to Senor Zegarra that the affair would only be taken into consideration on the immediate payment of the indemnity, said act of payment to appear as the voluntary act of the Government of Peru ; thus, to evade the most important principle, and the one which, more than all others, the Government of Peru desires and is bound to preserve. This proposition compromises that principle, since the payment of the indemnity is bound up in it. Such an act would seriously prejudice the interests of the National Treasury, and hazard the circumspection and respectability of the government to the greatest extent imaginable ; and which, without a stable system of administration, without respect to laws which should be obeyed, and without any consideration for its proper dignity, seizes contraband guano vessels, sumbits them to the competent Court, disposes of them in obedience to the judgment of the tribunals, and immediately, by an unusual mode, those mandates are destroyed, and the violators of the law, who have been submitted to a legal and merited judgment, are voluntarily recompensed with extravagant sums of money ! From the manner, then, that Peru, on her part, has avoided no possible concilia- 117 tory means for the defence of her rights, it appears that the United States, on their part, have never failed to deny them. The lengthy discussion in this capital with His Excellency Mr. Clay, the same discussion maintained in Washington with His Excellency the Secretary of State ; the proposition to arbitrate denied ; a recon- sideration of the affair, and extreme propositions made, beyond even what the dig- nity of a government or the honor of a nation can permit, have only served to cause such a repulse as is contained in the official note which His Excellency Mr. Clay addressed to the undersigned on the 16th of the present month, the answer to which assured His Excellency that the question would be resolved on the prin- ciple upon which he had called it up. In the adoption by the Council of Ministers of the definitive resolution, of which mention has been made in another paragraph of this despatch, they had before them also, all the arguments adduced in this discussion, and the undersigned repro- duces them for the better enlightenment of Mr. Clay, and the vindication of the rights of his country. The vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, rendered themselves culpable not only for a notorious violation of the neutrality they were bound to observe, but for the infraction, already proved, of the fiscal regulations and laws, and of the coasting trade of the republic, namely, loading guano in places where foreign vessels are prohibited access. This infraction of the national laws obliged the government to turn these vessels over to the Court of Confiscation, that justice might follow in all legal ways. The vessels were condemned to public judicial sale, the product of said sale to be appro- priated to the captors, who are officials of the Peruvian War Marine. The sentence of this competent tribunal once promulgated, the government has no power to alter it. According to the Constitution of Peru, the government is obliged, under a heavy responsibility, to comply and enforce compliance with judicial judgments. The Lizzie TJiompson and Georgiana facilitated the revolutionary party in obtain- ing resources, with a knowledge of the risks to which they exposed the owners and others interested in the vessels, for there had been circulated throughout the republic, in anticipation, a law of Congress which declared that the government would not be responsible for any injury or damage which those foreigners affording aid to the said revolutionists, might suffer. This law of the 4th of January, 1857, was amplified in order to obtain the co-operation of the Executive, and stating the penalties to those persons charged with its infraction. It having been already proved by the predecessors of the undersigned, and by the diplomatic agents of Peru in the United States, that the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana merited the condemnatory sentence which was pronounced against them, the undersigned may be permitted to add, that whatever might be the acuteness and wisdom of the most celebrated jurist, the perfect right by which the said vessels were seized, tried) and condemned, cannot be denied. So true is this, that the Government of the United States and its enlightened representative in this capital in demanding indemnification, have not been able to call in question the legality of the judicial proceedings, and derive aid only from the assumption that at the time of the appraisement, two governments existed in Peru a question which has been much discussed, and which it is unnecessary to renew. The undersigned will conclude this communication, expressing to His Excellency Mr. Clay, that the Government of Peru believes that the Government of the United States, appreciating the principal facts, will relinquish its demand for indemnifica- 118 tion, and that it will recognize the great efforts which the government subscribed hereto has made ; that this question might not come to that extreme which could produce any prejudicial disagreement between Peru and the United States. But in any event, if unfortunately these hopes are vain, the Government of Peru will comply with its sacred obligations to protect the national honor, making manifest the rights and the justice by which she is sustained, that she may be duly appre- ciated by all the civilized nations of the earth, when they come to judge of the moderation she has exercised to the present time, as they will have to judge of her determination if, unexpectedly, the conflict should come which, at every cost, she has endeavored to avoid. The undersigned reiterates to His Excellency Mr. Clay, sentiments of respect and consideration. (Signed) MIGUEL DEL CARPIO. To His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States. LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES, ? LIMA, Dec. 23d, 1859. J The undersigned, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America, has had the honor of receiving the official note which His Ex- cellency the Minister of Foreign Relations has been pleased to address to him, under date of the 22d of the present month, for the purpose of communicating the definite and final resolution which has been taken by the Government of Peru, not to admit the re- clamations which have been presented in favor of the owners and other parties interested in the ships Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, and refusing all indemnity for the capture and condemnation of the said vessels. Before proceeding, the undersigned may be permitted to correct a mistake which His Excellency has made in the resume of the conversations held during the interviews that have taken place with reference to the said cases. His Excellency says, that "after hav- ing obtained said documents (the inventories, &c. from the Commandant-General of Marine), and in another interview of the undersigned (His Excellency) with Mr. Clay, the latter declared that he could not enter into any discussion whatever, because his instruc- tions were positive, and prohibited it." Taking this at the same time with the declaration made by His Excellency in the pre- vious conference, that His Excellency could not enter upon the discussion of the question itself until some light was thrown upon the value of the vessels seized, and the property found on board of them, it would appear as if the undersigned had declined all negotia- tion, even with reference to the value of the vessels and property, and the amount that should be payable to the owners and other parties interested, as indemnification for their seizure and the losses that may have resulted therefrom. If such was the impression that the observations made by the undersigned left upon the mind of His Excellency, it was erroneous. "What the undersigned observed to His Excellency in the first conference, and what he repeated in the subsequent interviews, was that he considered "all discussion, so far as regards the principles involved in the cases, and the rights of those who claimed indem- nification, as terminated." But that he was ready, in case the reclamations were admitted by the Government of Peru, to enter into a discussion with His Excellency upon the examen of the inventories and other documents, and to make whatever reduction should be just and proper in the Bums claimed." 119 It is true that the undersigned did not wish to open a discussion upon the questions of right and of justice involved in these cases; but he said that he was ready to commence an examination of the documents, with a view of arriving at a satisfactory arrangement as to the sum that should be payable by the Government of Peru. Referring to the note of His Excellency, the undersigned confesses that the positive refusal of the Government of Peru to enter into an arrangement of these reclamations, and to indemnify the aggrieved owners of the vessels for their losses in consequence of their capture and illegal condemnation, has surprised him somewhat ; for, considering the assurances that His Excellency had given him in the various interviews that had taken place, the same as His Excellency the Vice-President charged with the executive power of the Republic on the 7th of the present month, of his desire that these reclamations should be amicably arranged, the undersigned had been led to indulge" himself in the hope that the Government of Peru would accept its responsibility, and in this manner a question so disagreeable would soon be terminated. These assurances, however, were not in keeping with the declaration that the Resident Minister of Peru, Don Cipriano C. Zegarra, has announced as having made to the Secretary of State of the United States > in a conference which took place in Washington on the 14th of September last past, and of which, if it realty took place, His Excellency must have known when making such as- surances to the undersigned. His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations informs the undersigned that the Government of Peru has adopted this declaration, after a solemn consultation between His Excellency the Vice-President and the Council of Ministers, and that it is in effect that the Government of Peru disregards all demands for indemnification in the aforesaid cases; and that none of the hazardous consequences that may result, however lamenta- ble they may be, will induce the Government of Peru to change its firm resolution ; and finally, that the seizure of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, the proceedings against said vessels before the Judge of Confiscation, the decision and condemnation pro- nounced against thorn, and their sale, which took place in consequence, are It-gal, unal- terable, and do not compromise in any manner the Government of Peru. Such, then, is the final and definitive resolution of the Peruvian Government upon the demand for the adjustment of the cases alluded to, as communicated officially to the undersigned by His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru. This reply is so positive and explicit in its language that the undersigned does not judge it necessary to reply to the other observations contained in the note of His Excel- lency of the 22d, with reference to the capture and condemnation of the vessels, and the notes exchanged between those who have preceded His Excellency in the Ministry, and the undersigned, and between the Secretary of State and the diplomatic agents of Peru in Washington. It only remains, therefore, for the undersigned to communicate to the Secretary of State the note of His Excellency, and the resolution of the Government of Peru. Ttis he will do by the packet of the 27th of the present month, and will await new instruc- tions from the Government of the United States. He does this with regret, for he is persuaded that this refusal on the part of Peru will greatly affect the harmony and amicable relations between both republics, which, as well the undersigned as his gov- ernment, have always desired to preserve and to promote. The undersigned will not venture to say what may be the measures that the Govern- ment of the United States may determine to take under these circumstances ; but it is certain that it will not temporalize nor vacilatc in the prosecution of these reclamations to an equitable, prompt, and complete settlement. His government has a clear idea of what is just, and has always been guided by justice in its international relations ; but in all that relates to its rights abroad, it knows what is due to its citizens, and it will extend to them ample protection whenever they may have suffered an evident injustice in their persons or interests. 120 With this note, the undersigned closes, for the present, his correspondence \vith His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations, in so far as regards the cases of the before-mentioned vessels. The undersigned, in all the phases of the negotiation, has made the greatest efforts to carry the reclamations to a satisfactory and amicable solution, and most sincerely deplores that his efforts have been thus far unsuccessful. In conclusion, the undersigned has the honor of notifying His Excellency, that the United States will consider Peru as responsible for -whatever other damages may result to the parties interested, from this refusal to indemnify them for the seizure and con- demnation of their vessels, and for all the consequences that may result from this resolu- tion of the Government of Peru. The undersigned avails himself of this occasion to offer to His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations, the assurances of his distinguished consideration. J. RANDOLPH CLAY. To His Excellency Seuor Dr. D. MIGUEL DEL CARIMO, Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, etc., etc. LEGATION OF THE UMTED STATES, LIMA, June 6th, I860. In the interview that took place yesterday, the undersigned, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America, had the honor of expressing to His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, the sincere regret with which the Government of the United States had seen that all its efforts, and those of the undersigned as its representative, to arrive at a rational and mutually equitable arrange- ment of the difficulties -which have arisen with regard to the capture and confiscation of the ship Lizzie Thompson and the bark Georyiana, have been frustrated ; and finally, that the Government of Peru insisted in- the determination not to indemnify the owners and other parties interested for the damages and loss they have suffered by reaeon of such seizure. The undersigned further informs His Excellency that this determination of the Peruvian Government must be considered as a lack of friendly feeling towards the United States, and will become incompatible with the continuance of those cordial re- lations which it had always been desired to carefully cultivate, but that have not been correspondingly met with equal good feeling on the part of the Government of Peru. Considering, on the other hand, that a further discussion of questions that have al- ready been exhausted by both parties, would be inefficacious, and would only result in still greater asperity, if not really in mutual exasperation, the Government of the United States has forwarded instructions to the undersigned to submit the following propositions to the Peruvian Government, with the view^ if it be possible, of arriving at a definite arrangement of these questions: 1. Will the Government of Peru reconsider the decision announced in the note ad- dressed by His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations, to the undersigned, on the 22d of December, 1859 ; will it, in specific terms, recognize its responsibility for the seizure and confiscation of the ship Lizzie Thompson and bark Georgia-no, zind its willing- ness to enter into and abide by an equitable arrangement of damages and loss suffered by the owners, captains, and crews of said vessels? 2. Will the Peruvian Government, assenting to the previous proposition, enter into a con- vention for the appointment of a mixed commission that shall not only decide the amount of the indemnification that may justly result from the seizure and confiscation of the afore- said vessels, but also will investigate and adjudicate whatever other reclamations of the 121 citizens of the two republics respectively against the other, may be now pending be- tween the two Governments ? The Government of the United States presents these propositions, animated by the friendly spirit which has always characterized its relations with Peru, and in submitting them, the undersigned has the confident hope that they will be accepted and approved by the Peruvian Government, and that they will conduce to a satisfactory arrangement of the before-mentioned questions. The undersigned avails himself of this occasion to reiterate to His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations, the assurances of his most distinguished consideration. J. RANDOLPH CLAY. To His Excellency Senor Dr. D. MIGUEL DEL CARPIO, Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, &c., &c. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS OF PJZRU, ) LIMA, Sept. 28, 1860. f The undersigned, Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, has had the honor of receiv- ing the appreciable official dispatch which His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States has been pleased to direct to him, under date of June 5, last, with the object of communicating to him that he had received in- structions from the Government of the United States to submit to that of Peru the fol- lowing propositions : Will the Government of Peru reconsider the decision announced in the note that its Minister of Foreign Relations addressed to Mr. Clay on the 22d of December, 1859 ? Will it in specific terms recognize its responsibility for the seizure and confiscation of the ship Lizzie Thompson and the bark Georgiana, and its disposition to enter upon and adhere to an equitable arrangement of the loss and damages that have been suffered by the owners, captains and, crews of said vessels ? Will the Peruvian Government assent to the foregoing proposition, and enter into a convention for the organization of a mixed commission that shall decide not only the amount of the indemnity that shall justly result from the seizure and confiscation of these vessels, but that will also investigate and decide whatever other reclamations of the two republics respectively that are now pending between the two governments ? Before transmitting to His Excellency Mr. Clay the resolution that, with regard to the foregoing two propositions, has been taken by the Government of Peru, the under- signed believes it necessary to state in this dispatch the causes which have delayed until to-day the answer asked for by His Excellency, and to make also a slight record of the two conferences which, at the solicitation of Mr. Clay, and with great pleasure to the undersigned, took place between His Excellency the President, the undersigned, and Mr. Clay, with regard to this grave and delicate question. With reference to the first, His Excellency Mr. Clay is aware of the painful occur- rence which obliged His Excellency the Grand Marshal Castilla to deliver the supreme command of the Republic to the Council of Ministers, in order to attend to his health, affected by the horrible attack upon his person committed by a treacherous assassin, on the 2oth of July, and which has prevented His Excellency from entering again upon the dispatch of public business until the 1st of the present month ; and as His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States had already solicited and obtained from His Excellency the President an interview, in which took place the first of the conferences referred to, the Council of Ministers could not occupy themselves with a matter thus voluntarily submitted by His Excellency Mr. Clay to dis- cussion with His Excellency the President. 16 122 It is with pleasure that the undersigned refers in this communication to the full and ample explications 'which, with his accustomed loyalty, were made by His Excel- lency the President to Mr. Clay, in the conferences which took place the 23d of July and to-day ; explications that without doubt must have convinced the worthy representative of the United States, that if the Government of Peru abounds in friendly sentiments towards that of the United States, and has not omitted any means whatever of proving the interest it feels, that the relations of friendship which the two countries are called upon to cultivate, may be strengthened and made permanent; it is not possible for it, however extensive and sincere may be these sentiments, to violate the sacred duties which it owes to the Nation, which has confided its destinies to its keeping, to the laws of the country, which must be strictly observed, and to the national honor, which must be respected, whatever may be the sacrifice that this may impose. In fact, these vessels, the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, having been submitted to a legal proceeding, judged by a competent tribunal in conformity with the laws of the country, and condemned after all the proceedings prescribed by the laws of Peru had been observed, the government, complying with the political constitution of the Re- public, far from having power to alter the decision of condemnation, is obliged to cause it to be complied with and respected, for reasons which have been fully and carefully set forth during the discussion kept up for two years. But, if on the one hand this proceeding of the government of the undersigned ought to be considered as just by the Government of the United States, that government has seen, on the other, that that of Peru, in a spirit of equity, has never refused to submit the question to the arbitration of a respectable power, whose decision it has been willing, as it is now willing, to comply with in all its parts. It is not to be expected, from the rectitude and reputation of the Cabinet of Washing- ton, that it will insist, when there still remains a conciliatory means, used by all nations, that the Government of Peru shall break the laws of its country, be wanting in that re- spect and veneration which in all civilized countries guards the independence of the judicial power, and that the same Cabinet of Washington will carry a question which does not affect the general interests of the republic to the extreme of producing a con- flict which may be decorously avoided by simply accepting the arbitration proposed. In order not to extend this communication to too great length, the undersigned, in referring to the reasons alleged in the last conference, and which His Excellency Mr. Clay will recollect, will limit himself to repeating in writing the assurances which were verbally made to him by His Excellency the President, that although he could not alter in the least the judgment pronounced against the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana, he was ready, notwithstanding, to admit, in a spirit of friendship and harmony, the arbi- tration of such nation as might be selected by the Government of the United States, or even by that of Great Britain, and to abide by the decision that might be made, what- ever it might be. With respect to the second proposition, the Government of Peru, disposed always to do justice to foreigners as well as to natives, will, with pleasure, submit to a mixed commission, all the reclamations now pending on the part of North American citizens against Peru, and of Peruvian citizens against the United States. This commission might be composed of two commissioners named respectively by each government, and whose decision shall be without appeal, the commissioners selecting a third to adjust such difference as may occur ; and hearing two advocates equally named by the two governments, who shall serve as attorneys for the defence of the rights that may be involved. The commission, before proceeding, shall classify the reclamations, to the end that those pertaining to the judicial power may be remitted to the tribunal to which they correspond, that they may there be resolved, if the parties interested do not agree to refrain from the judicial action, and submit to the decision of the mixed commission. 123 By this means the government of the undersigned believes that- the demands of the Government of the United States may be amicably and honorably reconciled with the rights and justice of Peru ; hoping, not without foundation, that the propositions pre- sented by His Excellency Mr. Clay, accepted in these terms, will be the means of ter- minating the pending questions, and of avoiding complications that the government of Peru, in its desire to preserve the best relations with friendly States, does not fear to submit to the decision of the enlightened Cabinet of Washington, with equal confidence as to its own. The undersigned reiterates to His Excellency Mr. Clay the sentiments of his distin- guished consideration. (Signed) JOSE FABIO MELGAR. To His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States. LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES, ) LIMA, Oct. 2d, 1860. f The undersigned, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America, had the honor of receiving, on the 29th, the note of His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, dated the 28th of last month, and transmitting the resolution taken by the Peruvian Government relative to the two propositions pre- sented by the undersigned in his note of the 5th of June last. With reference to the first of these propositions that the Government of Peru should recognize its responsibility for the capture and condemnation of the ship Lizzie Thomp- son and the bark Georgiana, and should agree to an equitable valuation of the losses and prejudices suffered by the owners, masters, and crews of said vessels His Excellency informs the undersigned that, notwithstanding the Peruvian Government and His Ex cellency the President of the Republic entertain the most sincere feelings of friendship towards the United States, and that they have not omitted any means of manifesting their desire that the relations of friendship should be permanent between the two countries ; it is not possible to transgress those sacred duties which the government has to fulfil towards the nation that has confided to it its destinies, that it must comply strictly with the laws of the country, and that it must cause the national honor to be respected, whatever the sacrifice may be that this may exact. His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations continues afterwards, affirming de novo, that the two vessels were submitted to a legal trial, before a competent tribunal, in conformity with the laws of the country, and condemned after all the forms and pro- ceedings had been observed that are prescribed by the laws of Peru ; that the govern- ment, under the political constitution of the country, far from having the power to change this sentence of condemnation, is obliged to respect and to comply with it, for reasons which had been explained fully and in detail in the two conferences which took place between His Excellency the President of the Republic, and the undersigned. And His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations reiterates the offer made by His Excellency the President, that notwithstanding that His Excellency could not alter in the least the judgment pronounced against the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgians, he was still ready, however, in a spirit of friendship and good understanding, to enter into a convention for an arbitration by such nation as might be selected by the United States, or by Great Britain, giving his assent to whatever decision might be adopted by such nation. From the commencement of the agitation of this question of capture of the two ves- sels, although the undersigned and his government have considered that they were il- 124 legally captured, and that, as a consequence, the proceedings against them were equally illegal, the undersigned has not omitted any effort, and has employed all the arguments that he could devise, in order to arrive at a satisfactory adjustment of this business. He experiences, therefore, the most profound regret that the Government of Peru has resolved to refuse the first proposition, and that it will not admit its responsibility in the premises ; and his regret is the greater because he cannot accept the alternative pro- posed by His Excellency the President of the Republic, of submitting the cases of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana to the arbitration of Great Britain or of any other friendly power. The same proposition of arbitration was made to the Secretary of State by Mr. Osma, Minister Resident of Peru, and was repeated by Mr. Zegarra, accredited in the same capacity to Washington, and was formally refused by the Government of the United States ; consequently it is impossible for the undersigned to accept it, and therefore, so far from the Government of Peru offering any satisfactory arrangement, a rupture in the diplomatic relations between the two countries is inevitable. The undersigned, animated by the most vehement desire to prevent such an extremity, had the honor of submitting to His Excellency the President of the Republic, in the con- ference which took place on the 28th of last month, the following proposition, substitut- ing it for the two propositions before mentioned, and to serve as the basis of a conven- tion between the two republics to wit: " That Peru (that is to say its Government) will deliver to the United States an adequate sum (una sumo, considerable) as full liquidation for all of the reclamations, actually pend- ing before it, of citizens of the United States the amount of said sum to be determined and fixed by a mixed commission that shall be nominated and organized by the respect- ive governments, which commission shall also investigate and adjucate the reclamations of citizens of Peru now actually pending before the United States." This proposition, in the judgment of the undersigned, is both just and equitable, and in submitting it to the Peruvian Government the undersigned has the honor to inform His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations that he will await until 6 o'clock of the afternoon of Saturday next, the 6th instant, a categorical reply. If none of these propositions are accepted within this time, the undersigned will be compelled to ask his passports, and suspend diplomatic relations between the two re- publics. But the undersigned still entertains the hope that the Government of Peru will not place him in the necessity of taking this step, not only on acconnt of the injuries that will result from the same to the national interests of the two countries, but also from the moral effect that will be produced by its future consequences, because the amicable rela- tions now existing, once interrupted, it will be ditficult to reestablish them upon the same footing of intimacy and cordiality. The undersigned has the honor, in this conjuncture, of offering to His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Relations, the renewed assurances of his most distinguished con- sideration. J. RANDOLPH CLAY. To His Excellency D. JOSE FABIO MELGAE, Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru. 125 MINISTRY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS OF PERU, ) LIMA, Oct. 6th, I860. j" The undersigned, Minister of Foreign Relations of Peru, has the honor of replying to the official dispatch which, under the date of the 2d instant, His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States has been pleased to direct him, " for the purpose of informing the Government of the Republic that if within the term of six days it shall not declare that it is willing to pay a specific sum (una swna considerable) in settlement of all the reclamations of the United States, His Excellency Mr. Clay will be compelled to ask his passports, and to suspend diplomatic relations be- tween the two republics." The regret of the undersigned is not less than that expressed by Mr. Clay, at the adop. tion of this extreme measure, very foreign, in truth, to those relations of friendship and good understanding which, up to the present time, have existed between Peru and the United States, and this feeling is augmented by the reflection that the enlightened Gov- ernment represented by Mr. Clay has refused, without any plausible reason, the arbitra- tion that solely, in a spirit of equity, and for the furtherance of good relations, was pro- posed by the Government of Peru, in the confidence that the Government of the United States would accept, in this instance, the same means they had recently adopted in a similar case with another of the South American States. Before making the intimation contained in the dispatch of His Excellency Mr. Clay, referred to, it should have been requisite that all the conciliatory measures should have been exhausted which, in international law, and in the practice of civilized nations, are known and used to prevent the conflicts and the great injuries that always attend the interruption of diplomatic relations between two countries. If the judgment which the government of the United States has formed with refer- ence to the capture of the ships Lizzie Thompson and Cfeorgiana, is contrary to that which with reference to this act has been formed not only by the Government of Peru, but also by its tribunals of justice, and which has merited also the respectable confirma- tion of the enlightened Government of France and of the prudent Cabinet of Chili ; if a discussion sustained for two years in order to discover on which side is justice, has not produced any result towards terminating this unfortunate difference ; if, in fine, neither the Government of Peru nor that of the United States can by themselves reach a satisfactory solution, why should they yet resort to unfriendly measures when there still remains a means of a pacific character that is admitted and is frequently employed for the desirable purpose of preventing conflicts between two countries ? Why should such a means be selected in a case which has its origin neither in offences against the national honor nor in an attack upon great public interests, but simply and exclusively in the private interests of a few individuals ? So decisive and peremptory is the intimation that His Excellency Mr. Clay has made to the Government of Peru, that the undersigned would have abstained from making the foregoing observations, if it were not proper, as it really is, to manifest again the concil- iatory spirit which, even in the present extreme case, distinguishes the proceedings of the Peruvian Government, and if it were not necessary that from this time forward it should be made known upon whose side will rest the responsibility and upon whom will fall the consequences that may supervene. His Excellency Mr. Clay says that he still entertains the hope that on receiving his intimation the Government of Peru will recognize its responsibility for the capture of the ships Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, and its duty to indemnify the parties inter^ ested in them. The Government of Peru, in declaring, as it now declares, that it will only admit, in the present case, the decision that may result from, the arbitration which it has proposed, entertains also the hope that the Government of the United States will reconsider this question, and will be disposed to submit it to the arbitration that has been named. 126 The undersigned will not conclude this communication without expressing the surprise that has been occasioned to the Government of Peru by the contents of the dispatch of His Excellency Mr. Clay, when three days before he had heard the reasons which were verbally stated to him by His Excellency the President of the Republic, in order to show why he refused to indemnify the owners and outfitters of the Lizzie Thompson and the Georgiana, but was disposed to submit, notwithstanding, to arbitration ; and also to convince His Excellency Mr. Clay, of the sentiments of entire friendship which the President of Peru entertained towards the Government and people of the United States. So far, therefore, was the undersigned from anticipating the intimation that has been made by His Excellency Mr. Clay, that he had conceived the pleasant hope that this question was about to be satisfactorily arranged, and the more when Mr. Clay entered even into the details of the organization of the mixed commission which should be occu- pied with the classification and arrangement of the reclamations of the citizens of North America against Peru, and of citizens of this Republic against the United States thus leaving it to be understood that, convinced by the reasoning of the President, he would at least submit to the further consideration of his government the proposition which the undersigned presented in the dispatch which he addressed to His Excellency under date of the 28th ultimo. Unfortunately this hope now disappears with the determination indicated by His Excellency Mr. Clay, and which is all the more painful to the Government of Peru, be- cause it will be the means of producing the absence from the country of a functionary who has received so many and so abundant proofs of the esteem and honor in which he is held, not only by the President and his cabinet, but by society at large. It only remains for me to say to Mr. Clay, in order that he might repeat the same to his government, that as His Excellency will readily understand, this unfortunate suspen- sion of the functions of the American Legation will not change, on the part of Peru, the good position of the commerce and of the citizens of the Union, agreeably with Article 2 of the Treaty of the 26th of July, 1851, and that the Peruvian Government will always be disposed to renew, on the most friendly conditions, the diplomatic relations which Mr. Clay has been pleased to suspend. However, before Mr. Clay carries ^into effect the act of demanding his passports, he will consider that of the propositions which he has transmitted to the government of the undersigned, that which will put an end to all reclamations of American citizens has been admitted, and that the Peruvian Government desires to submit to arbitration only that proposal relative to the vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, in which act there is no refusal, but rather a setting aside to a certain extent of the right of the govern- ment to sustain the decisions of the judicial power. The entire demand, then, of the government of His Excellency Mr. Clay, is not refused, and in the only point not admit- ted a not insignificant sacrifice of the rights of Peru is included. If, therefore, Mr. Clay will be pleased to consider all this, together with all that previous led to the strong hope that he would consult his government regarding the contents of the last communi- cation from the undersigned, it is possible, and the Peruvian Government would be very glad of the same, that he may desist from carrying out his intention to retire, and may adopt the above-named consultation. By such means Mr. Clay would be able to avoid the pernicious consequences which a rupture, how momentary soever, of the relations now existing with Peru, would undoubtedly produce to the commerce of the Union. The undersigned repeats to His Excellency Mr. Clay, the sentiments of his distin- guished consideration. JOSE FABIO MELGAR. To His Excellency the Minister Plenipotentiary and Envoy Extraordinary of the United States. 127 LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES, ) LIMA, October 9th, 1860. The undersigned received, on the afternoon of Saturday, the 6th instant, the commu- nication of His Excellency the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Peru, addressed to him in reply to his note of the 2d of this month, and can only deplore that the persistent deter- mination of the Peruvian Government in not admitting its responsibility for the capture and confiscation of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana compels the undersigned to carry into effect the instructions of his government, the terms of -which are so imperative as to leave the undersigned no alternative but to ask for his passports. The undersigned so informed His Excellency's predecessor in the Ministry (Seiior Carpio) when he addressed to him the note of the 5th June last, and he has in subse- quent interviews repeatedly declared to His Excellency Senor Mel gar, that diplomatic relations between the two governments would be suspended, if the Government of Peru refused to admit the first proposition set forth in that note, or refused to enter upon some other understanding similar thereto, for the indemnification of the parties inte- rested in the two vessels. So also in respect to the proposal for the submission of the matter concerning the ves- sels to the arbitration of a third Power, which proposition Peru has so urgently de- manded, His Excellency must be perfectly convinced, as well by the verbal and written communication from the undersigned, as also probably by information received from the Peruvian Legation at "Washington, that the Government of the United States has invari- ably rejected the proposal, in virtue of the principles incontrovertibly established at that time, and which are herein referred to : and that accordingly the undersigned has no option whatever in the matter. Besides, the undersigned informed His Excellency the President of Peru, at the first conference which he had the honor of holding with him on the subject of these claims, what those principles were. Consequently, as the Government of Peru was informed of the above-mentioned facts, and as the undersigned assured His Excellency the President, in the conference of the 28th ult., that he had been instructed to wait five days for a categorical answer to the propositions submitted by him on the 5th of June last, which notification he omitted in note of that date, at the suggestion of Senor Carpio, whose observations led him to hope that the Peruvian Government would admit the first proposition, at least in a modified form, the undersigned stated at the same time to His Excellency, that he had received later orders from his government to suspend diplomatic relations with that of Peru, in the event of its not acceding to the said proposal. And this latter having occurred, the undersigned, finally, cannot understand how the contents of his note dated the 2d instant, can have caused " surprise " to the Government of Peru. It is true that after having heard with respectful attention the reasons adduced by His Excellency the President, for not indemnifying the owners of, and others interested in the vessels, for desiring an arbitration, and for giving assurance of the friendly sentiments of His Excellency for the Government and people of the United States, and after His Excel- lency the Minister for Foreign Affairs had received instructions to reply to the said note of the 5th June, the undersigned made some observations explanatory of the character of a mixed commission for the settlement of claims similar to that which was arranged by a convention concluded between the United States and Great Britain on the 8th Febru- ary, 1853. But these observations of the undersigned were simply explanatory, and referred par- ticularly to the other claims of citizens of both republics, pending before the respective governments. And in regard to the note which the Minister of Foreign Afiairs was directed to ad- dress to the undersigned in reply to that of the 5th June, the undersigned could do no less, on the ground of consideration for the Government of Peru, and respect for the com, 128 munication of the Peruvian Cabinet, than offer to give it his best attention, and to reflect on its contents. The observations, therefore, of the undersigned, were not intended to inspire the idea that the proposal for arbitration would be transmitted for the reconsideration of his government. The undersigned does not deem it necessary to reply particularly to the observations contained in the note of His Excellency, since, as it is evident, the Peruvian Government has resolved not to reconsider the decision announced in the note of the Minister for Foreign Affairs, under date of the 22d of December, 1859, nor to proceed to any other arrangement in the case of the two vessels illegally captured and confiscated by said government, but only to the proposal for an arbitration by a third Power. Consequently, as the undersigned is not authorized to admit this proposal, and as the Peruvian Government rejects not only the two propositions set forth in the note of the 5th of June, to which reference has already been made, but also the contents of the note of the undersigned under date of the 2d inst., that the Government of Peru should propose itself to deliver a certain sum in liquidation of all the claims of the United States citizens now pending, (a proposition which His Excellency the Minister for Foreign Affairs was the first to suggest to the undersigned, and which he therefore confidently hoped would be admitted,) there is no alternative left to the undersigned but to request that His Excellency should be pleased to furnish him with the necessary passports for himself and the other members of this Legation. The undersigned will not conclude this communication without calling His Excel- lency's attention to the fact that, when His Excellency declared, in his note of the 28th of last month, and in the course of various interviews with the undersigned, that the Peruvian Government has not the power to reverse the judgment of condemnation pro- nounced against the vessels, but is obliged to execute it, the same government, by the treaty of the 17th of March, 1841, agreed to indemnify, and did subsequently compensate the owners and others interested in the Esth-r, of Boston, and her cargo, and those inter- ested in the Gen. Brown, of New York, and her cargo, which vessels had been illegally condemned and confiscated in Peru. The treaty of March, 1841, was modified during the first administration of His Excel- lency, the Grand Marshal Castilla ; and if the Peruvian Government then possessed the power of entering into stipulation for indemnifying the parties interested in the Esther and Gen. Brown, it is clear that the government likewise possess the same faculty for indemnifying the parties interested in the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, since the same independence of the judicial power existed at that time in Peru, just as it does now under the constitution, and especially seeing that the power of making and concluding treaties is one of the most important attributes of the Executive of a Republic, and the demonstration of which power is not restricted in respect to the present case. It is, therefore, evident that it is not a want of sufficient power under the constitution, which induces the Government of Peru to reject the bases of the convention proposed by the United States for the friendly and equitable settlement of the claims of their respective citizens. The Government of Peru, persisting in refusing reparation for the illegal capture and confiscation of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, has caused the cessation af the amic- able relations which have existed between the two countries, and which the United States have always and with so much earnestness endeavored to cultivate and main- tain. Upon Peru, therefore, falls the responsibility of all the consequences which may result from a policy which the undersigned does not consider warranted either in justice or by the calm reflection which the gravity of the case demands. 129 The undersigned has the honor of offering to His Excellency the assurances of his most distinguished consideration. J. RANDOLPH CLAT. To His Excellency, Don JOSE FABIO MELGAR, Minister for Foreign Affairs of Peru, &c., etc. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF PERU, ) LIMA, October 17th, 1860. f The undersigned, Minister for Foreign Affairs of Peru, feels regret in handing inclosed the passports which, by note of the 9th instant, His Excellency the Minis- ter Plenipotentiary and Envoy Extraordinary of the United States has requested, and if His Excellency deplores that the determination of the government of the undersigned, not to acknowledge the responsibility which has been exacted of it, for the capture and confiscation of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana, has obliged him to carry into effect the instructions of his Government, that of the undersigned does not the less regret that those instructions have not permitted His Excellency to accept the equitable and friendly proposition which was submitted to him in the conferences to which he alludes, nor even to consult his government in regard to said proposition, in order to endeavor to avoid the extreme measure which he has adopted. As His Excellency Mr. Clay has deemed it well, in his said letter, to make cer- tain observations relating to various points broached in conferences and previous notes, the undersigned will also refer to them, though it may be useless to do so after having arrived, on this subject, at so unfortunate a result with/ the American Legation. His Excellency Mr. Clay recalls all that he has said in conferences and official notes to the predecessor of the undersigned, Senor Carpio, to the undersigned him- self, and to His Excellency the President of the Kepublic, touching the strictness of his instructions for the suspension of diplomatic relations with Peru in a given con- tingency, and he makes this retrospection with the object of demonstrating that the intimation contained in his note of the 2d instant, should not have caused sur- prise to the Peruvian Government. Although this point must be of secondary interest in the grave case now under consideration, the undersigned cannot avoid insisting that his government had reasons for regarding the said intimation with surprise. The government even had reasons for believing that His Excellency Mr. Clay, as he himself declared he would, intended to reflect a little further on the matter before making the said intimation; because the government had seen that, notwithstanding the rigor of his instructions, he sought w r ith solicitous and laudable zeal a means of amicably terminating the matter in question ; and because, above all, the last reply given to the propositions of the United States did not present the refusal which Avas to be the contingency prescribed for the rupture, which Mr. Clay has consummated, of the diplomatic relations. His Excellency says that he does not deem it necessary to reply particularly to the observations in the note of the undersigned, under date of the 6th instant, be- cause the Peruvian Government has refused to reconsider its decision, contained in the note of the 22d December, 1859, or proceed to any other settlement of this question. It is certain that in the position into which affairs have unfortunately IT 130 fallen, this discussion is unnecessary ; yet the undersigned cannot omit to notice incidentally that from the 22d December last until the present time, nothing new has been introduced into the subject. The case of the Lizzie Thompson and Geor- giana has been presented together with other reclamations, and in the question so made up, the government of the undersigned has made a proposition which cannot in justice be called a refusal to proceed to any other settlement. Neither can the de- clining to accede to the entire proposition, contained in the note of His Excellency Mr. Clay, under date of the 2d instant, be said to signify a refusal of this descrip- tion, since the Peruvian Government admits the greater part of that proposition. The retirement of Mr. Clay, therefore, cannot be said to arise from an absolute refusal of his demands. In speaking of the proposition just mentioned, His Excellency is pleased to say that he had hoped it would be admitted, since the undersigned had been the first to suggest it. And here, because this somewhat touches the circumspection which the undersigned should observe, he claims the rather lengthened attention of Mr. Clay. His Excellency cannot have forgotten that whenever the undersigned read the said proposition (when there occurred in it the phrase that the Government of Peru should acknowledge itself responsible for the capture and confiscation of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana,} the paper fell from his hands, so to speak, on his arriving at said passage, and he could not continue without saying to Mr. Clay that the Government of Peru would never consent to it nor lend itself to any kind of instrument which hinted at the acknowledgment of that responsibility. On one. occasion, the undersigned being urged by His Excellency Mr. Clay to give him an answer which he might transmit to his Government, the undersigned said to him that he, (the undersigned,) as a Minister in possession of the views and decision of His Excellency the President of the Republic, and of the opinion of the other Ministers composing the Cabinet, could not give an affirmative answer to his de- mand; and that neither, as Minister of Foreign Affairs, capable by his position of compromising his government by his reply, could he accede to the demand, and that he refused it, being intimately convinced of the justice of Peru in the matter. His Excellency Mr. Clay said that he did not admit this answer that is, that he regarded himself as not answered. The undersigned told him that he agreed that his reply should not be admitted, in the sense indicated, and thus the conference terminated what was said at its conclusion being considered private. From this, no doubt, originated His Excellency Mr. Clay's having solicited, through the undersigned, an interview with his Excellency the President, to which request the undersigned willingly acceded, in the hope that, as Mr. Clay said, some amicable arrangement might result therefrom. Although, after that time, the un- dersigned might have suggested some idea which might have softened his strict refusal, without prejudice to his circumspection, since the matter was going to be treated with His Excellency the President, at the request of Mr. Clay, yet notwith- standing that Mr. Clay twice urged him to consider some form of document which might be presented to His Excellency the President, the undersigned did nothing more than suggest to him to omit, in his proposition, the phrase acknowledging the responsibility, and to mention summarily the pending claims, in order that they might thus be taken into consideration; that is, that they might be discussed with- out the undersigned's guaranteeing that the matter would be admitted. On the first or second day following, His Excellency Mr. Clay brought to the office of the Minister the said proposition, written by his own hand, and with the aforementioned 131 phrase suppressed, to be presented in that form to His Excellency the President If Mr. Clay calls this suggesting the proposition, the undersigned sees in it nothing more than a persistence in the opinion that the Government of Peru would never consent to declare itself responsible for the seizure and confiscation of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana. Among other observations, His Excellency Mr. Clay alludes to the transaction of March, 1841, by which indemnities were conceded to the vessels Esther and General Brown, which had been condemned by the judicial authorities of Peru. By this allusion His Excellency attempts to prove that similar indemnities must now be granted, notwithstanding that the Constitution of the State may prevent, since the Government now possesses the same powers which it enjoyed when the cases of the Esther and General Brown occurred. Mr. Clay will permit the undersigned to think differently, for, in order to decide whether the Constitution does or does not prohibit such or such an action, the proper way is not to investigate indirectly, but rather directly to open and examine that Constitution; and certainly that which now rules in the republic establishes the independence of the judicial authority, and what is more noteworthy in the present case, prohibits the President of the Republic from making treaties inimical to the sovereignty of the State. And if the Constitution which ruled when the aforementioned cases transpired, established, like the present one, the independence of the judicial authority, and if, notwith- standing that independence, indemnities, contrary to the judgment of those tribunals were conceded, it is evident that that was an exceptional proceeding, which must have rested on its own peculiar grounds, and which could not furnish an example for the case of the Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana. If the allusion of His Excellency Mr. Clay is not presented otherwise than as a precedent, which in its present aspect, the undersigned does not doubt that His Excellency will be pleased to take into consideration : that precedents do not possess the same force in the presence as in the absence of laws : that in order to be cited, a precedent should have entire analogy with the existing case : that no analogy has been demonstrated between the transaction to which Mr. Clay alludes, and that which is now in question ; and that there are rights, the defence of which cannot be yielded because of any precedent or even of a previous explicit renuncia- tion. The consequences of these principles are so obvious, and the opportunity for discussing them with Mr. Clay having passed, the undersigned will not go into a detail of those consequences, but will only point but the facts : That the indemnifi- cation to which His Excellency refers was made in the year 1841, whe_i Peru was emerging from ten years of complete chaos, during which she had been conquered and dismembered, with the loss of her unity and nationality. Peru, then newly born, found herself confronted with a difficulty from which she had to escape by the transaction of March, 1841. That difficulty had been contracted when Peru had neither her own Constitution nor her own Government ; when her tribunals were not free, and her laws were ineffective. His Excellency will, then, readily understand that precedents should not be sought in that normal epoch, and that an a^t of the Government of the Peru-Bolivian Confederation could not serve as a precedent to the prejudice of Peru after she had recovered her independence. Very grave and delicate is the question treated in the note of Mr. Clay, wherein he seeks to throw upon the government of the undersigned the responsibility of the cessation to use his language of the friendly relations of Peru with the United States. In regard to Mr. Clay, the government of the undersigned will deny the responsibility ; requesting only that he will remember what has been 132 said verbally and in writing, in the course of the lengthy discussion of this subject. In regard to the government of His Excellency and to the whole civilized world, Peru will demonstrate, when occasion arises, (and may such occasion never arise,) that she is entirely free of that responsibility, and for the present it will suffice to say that Peru, in defence of a principle of vital importance, answers a demand, purely pecuniary, of the United States, not with an absolute refusal of such claim , but submitting its justice clear and certain, as though it were obscure or doubtful to the decision of an umpire, with whose judgment she engages to conform ; and this after smoothing the way to a settlement of other pecuniary claims, in the man- ner proposed by the United States, in all of which the Peruvian Government fore- goes its power to decide for itself all executive and diplomatic matters, and consents to present as doubtful, and to submit to a foreign decision, a right which she believes, with a profound conviction, belongs to her. Finally, the undersigned, by express order of His Excellency the President of the Republic, has the honor of saying to His Excellency the Minister Plenipoten- tiary and Envoy Extraordinary of the United States, that there is yet time for His Excellency, after a moment of calm and serious reflection, to suspend his determi- nation to withdraw, and to refer to his government such points as may appear 1o him necessary, in view of the nature and position of the question, the extreme proofs of deference which have been shown him, and the grave responsibilities which may succeed to an act that cannot fail to prejudice the commerce of Peru and of the United States. If His Excellency Mr. Clay should resolve to consummate his intention, the un- dersigned must remain with regret at not having been able to obtain from His Excellency a friendly termination of this affair ; but it will always afford him plea- sure to reiterate to His Excellency the assurance of his high esteem and personal appreciation. JOSE FABJO MEXCAR, To His Excellency the Minister Plenipotentiary and Envoy Extraordinary of the United States, FORM OF THE PASSPORT. Jose Fdbio Melgar, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Peru. Whereas, His Excellency Don John Randolph Clay, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States, has requested of the Government passports to return to the said States, together with his family and other persons composing the Legation : I therefore order and direct the authorities of the rcpublic^and I request those of foreign countries, to place no embarrassment whatever in the way of the journey of said Mr. Clay, his family and party, but rather to afford them all facilities that may be necessary, and to show them due respect. Executed in Lima on the 17th day of October, 18GO. (Signed) JOSE FABIO MELGAR. 133 LIMA, Oct. 19, 1860. The undersigned has had the honor to receive the communication of His Excel- lency the Minister of External Relations of Peru, dated the 17th instant, inclosing the passports he had demanded in his note of the 9th instant, in consequence of the refusal of the Government of Peru to accept the propositions addressed to it in the name of the United States, either in their original form or as modified by the un- dersigned in the conferences he had the honor to attend with the President of the Republic and the Minister of External Relations. The undersigned consequently, greatly to his regret, is placed by the solemn act of the Government of Peru, under the necessity of consummating the instructions transmitted to him by the Secretary of State, and of informing His Excellency the Minister of External Relations, that the diplomatic relations between the two republics will be closed from and 'after this date. In communicating this notice to the Peruvian Government, the undersigned can- not refrain from observing that the repeated assurances given him by Senor Melgar, and by other ministers who have heretofore been intrusted with the portfolio of ex- ternal relations, of their ardent desire to devise some means of arriving at a satisfac- tory solution of the pending questions, had induced the undersigned to believe that he might yet be able to avoid the necessity of his official withdrawal from Peru. Unhappily this has not been the case, and now, when on the eve of departing from the countiy, the thorough conviction attends him of having omitted no effort to preserve those friendly relations, which it is the duty of both nations to cultivate, and which have been interrupted by the reiterated refusal of the Peruvian Govern- ment to do justice to the citizens of the Union for damages committed under its authority. And here the undersigned would close this correspondence, but lor the necessity of correcting an equivocation in which your Excellency has indulged, in regard to the two modified propositions offered by the undersigned, probably because your Excellency has referred to one conference that which, in fact, occurred at several interviews. Your Ex- cellency may remember that, in the month of June last, the undersigned, with a view to removing the objection urged by your Excellency to the first proposition contained in the note of the undersigned of June 5th, 1860, (namely, that its acceptance by the Peruvian Government would constitute a disastrous precedent), offered to modify it in the follow- ing terms: "Article 1. The Government of Peru agrees to pay to the owners, captains, and other parties interested in the barks Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana a sura which shall be determined by Article 2d of this Convention." Your Excellency at that time and at various subsequent conferences declined to accede to the proposal, alleging that it would involve a recognition of the responsibility of the Peruvian Government to in- demnify the parties. It was not until a conference, which occurred on the 21st September, that your Ex- cellency, in refusing to accept the proposition first quoted, and in repeating the assur- ance of your ardent desire to discover some means of attaining a friendly solution, said that you believed it might be accomplished by the Peruvian Government consenting to give a considerable sum in liquidation of all claim, "as the principle disputed by Peru, in the case of the barks, would thus be saved." And your Excellency, at the same time, informed the undersigned that he could not formally tender this basis of settlement with- o.it previously consulting the President. The undersigned replied, substantially, that he would reflect upon the terms in which such a proposition should be couched, and also assented that this conversation should neither bind nor compromise either of the parties. But the undersigned has no recollection that the objeqt of the interview was to be regarded as private, since there 134: was no necessity of placing the seal of confidence upon it ; and, moreover, if the under- signed had considered it private, he would not have presented the proposition formally when writing in the presence of the Chief Clerk, in the Foreign Office, on the following day. Such ia the expression of the undersigned in regard to what took place on that occa- sion ; and he can hardly be deceived, since he preserved a memorandum of what passed, nor does the undersigned perceive any reason why your Excellency should consider as private a transaction which occurred naturally in the course of negotiation, and which cannot, owing to the manner in which the incident occurred, affect in any way your pri- vate or public responsibility. On the contrary, indeed, the undersigned can only regard it as honorable to your Excellency that you should have offered a suggestion which, could it have been realized, would have obviated all difficulty. With respect to the closing remarks of your Excellency, made by the express instruc- tions of the President of the Republic, the undersigned has the honor to say that a mature consideration and a clear discussion, lasting through the past two years, have confirmed him, and also the Government of the United States, which has examined the question in all its phases, in the conviction that the claims of the owners and others interested in the two barks are entirely just. However serious, therefore, may be the responsibility for the consequences to follow a cessation of diplomatic relations between the two nations, they must be ascribed to the acts of the Government of Peru. '1 he undersigned, notwithstanding, being always disposed to pay respect to the wishes of His Excellency the President of the Republic, would not hesitate to assume the responsibility of entertaining any further propositions which may be addressed to him by the Peruvian Government, provided it be compatible with the instructions of the undersigned. It has ever been his ardent desire to maintain and draw closer the relations of the two nations, and if he is obliged to withdraw from this capital in obedience to his explicit and peremptory instructions, it will be after having exerted all the resources which an experience of many years in the service of his country have suggested to him to induce the Government of Peru to bring to an amicable adjustment the affairs in question. In every event, however, the undersigned shall always recur with grateful recollection to the friendship with which he has been honored by His Excellency the President of the Republic, and avails himself of this occasion to assure His Excellency Senor Melgar of his most distinguished consideration and high personal regard. J. RANDOLPH CLAY. To His Excellency DON JOSE FABTO MELGAR, Minister of External Relations of the Republic of Peru. LIMA, Oct. 22d, 1860. The undersigned, Minister of External Relations, has had the honor to receive the esteemed note of His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States, dated the 19th inst., in which he acknowledges the receipt of the passports which, at his request, were transmitted to him, and to confirm the fuct that from that date the diplomatic relations between this republic and that of the Union should be closed. lj[is Excellency states that you have given this notice with great vegret, and solely in obedience to your instructions, in consequence of the government of the undersigned having failed to accept the propositions which you had presented to it in the matter of the Lizzie Ihompson and the Georgiana. The undersigned can also assure His Excellency Mr. Clay that this government has deeply regretted to deliver the passports, which he demanded, and that it has felt the most profound sorrow at not 135 being able to go further than it has gone in concessions and the sacrifice of its rights in order that the difficulty referred to might be terminated in the most prompt and friendly manner. Notwithstanding the cessation of diplomatic relations, Mr. Clay very properly wishes to revive certain particulars of the question, and the undersigned is quite ready to give them a reconsideration, with the dame intentions as those which govern His Excellency. I shall not enter into a discussion of so much of what your Excellency has said touch- ing the narration made by the undersigned of what occurred in the several conferences, for the discussion of the proposition ultimately presented by Mr. Clay. It is proper to omit so much, since His Excellency, with striking frankness, has charged the undersigned with an equivocation. It is the more advisable to waive it, because to discuss it will in no way aid in the principal part of the question ; and the undersigned may the more safely forego the discussion, as Mr. Clay has already declared th at whatever the words and phrases employed they were not "to bind or compromise" any of the parties. The undersigned only recurs to this point with the single object of showing that he had con- tracted no engagement to consider the final proposition presented by Mr. Clay. In controverting the closing portion of the note of the undersigned, dated on the 17th, Mr. Clay says substantially that protracted discussion and mature and prolonged exam- ination of the matter has produced in him and in his government the conviction that the claims of the owners and other parties interested in the two barks are entirely just. His Excellency in this way justifies himself in saying, that the responsibilities which attend from the suspension of diplomatic relations, originating in the rejection of these claims, will belong to Peru. Without serious offence to Mr. Clay, the undersigned could not have presumed that, in the absence of the conviction he expresses, he would have insisted so strenuously in his demands, and would have proceeded to the extreme of severing his official relations with the Peruvian Government. But Mr. Clay will still do this government the justice to believe that, if it has refused and shall still refuse, to pay the indemnities demanded of it, it will only be because it is conscientiously convinced that the claim of the owners and others interested in the vessels which have caused this question, are wholly unjust. In such a case, it is only left for the undersigned to submit them to the tribunal which will be constituted by the civilized world, when they come to know the reasons which each of the parties has urged in support of its position. In the meantime, the undersigned cannot refrain from calling the attention of Mr. Clay to the fact that the conflict is not between the demand of one nation and the refusal of another, but between such a demand and the proposition to submit the same to the judgment of an arbitrator. The nation, therefore, which would be sure of justice, and consequently of a favorable judgment, should have accepted this means of accommoda- tion before rupturing its relation with the other ; and it must be held responsible for the consequences of the rupture, and not that other, who has not opposed a dogged refusal, nnd who would hasten to do justice, if ihe umpire should declare in favor of the claimants. The undersigned, in present circumstances, reads with much pleasure, in the note of Mr. Clay, that he would not hesitate to take the responsibility of receiving any proposi* tion compatible with his instructions which the Peruvian Government might yet address to him for a pacific arrangement, His Excellency writes this in response to an analogous intimation, which the undersigned had the honor to submit in his last note. Sincere as is the government of the undersigned, and sincere as is Mr. Clay, in declaring their dispo- sition to perpetuate the good relations of Peru and the United States, the undersigned cannot bring himself to believe that it is no longer possible to debate this question under favorable auspices, and to render them available, with a view to avoid, if possible, the suspension of diplomatic relations which Mr. Clay contemplates. He will be permitted to remind Mr. Clay, that in his last conference with His Excellency the President, he 136 said " that in the last resort he might consent on his own responsibility to the admission of a temporary arrangement during the short period necessary for him to employ in con- sulting his government." If Mr. Clay will take this course, which can in no manner com- promise him, he will give a proof of his constant desire to draw still closer the relations of his country with Peru, he will render it possible that upon final reflection. his govern- ment may accede to the equitable proposal of arbitration ; that with a grave and thorough consciousness his rights have been presented by the undersigned, and will furnish this government with the pleasing ground of hope that Mr. Clay will not see himself constrained to retire from this capital. As it is, profoundly regretting that Mr. Clay is about to withdraw, the undersigned would remind him of what he signified on a former occasion, that American citizens and property in Peru will enjoy the same protection of the laws as if they were asserted 1 y the most zealous representatives of his nation. Whatever may be the final resolution of Mr. Clay, the proof of friendship he has given will always be grateful to the President of the Republic; and the undersigned will preserve the distinguished esteem with which he has regarded ITis Excellency, and the high personal regard which he has had the honor to award him. (Signed) JOSE F. MELGAR. To His Excellency the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States. LIMA, Oct. 23d, 1860. The undersigned has had the honor of receiving the communication which His Excel- lency the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Peru has addressed to him, under date of the 22d inst., and to which the undersigned now replies, out of consideration for, and respect to the Peruvian Government ; and also, because His Excellency has thought proper to say that the difference which has arisen in the question of the vessels Lizzie Thompson and Georgiana result not from the demand of the one nation and the refusal of the other, but from the claim of the one nation and the proposal on the part of the other to submit the same to arbitration. The undersigned could at once accept the position mentioned by the Peruvian Gov- ernment, if it included all its consequences, because if the difference has not had its origin in the claim, but in the manner of its settlement, and its submission to the arbitration of a third nation, Peru virtually admits the principle assumed by the Government of the United States in the case of these vessels, and also admits the justice of the claim for in- demnity which the United States have made in favor of the parties concerned. If then, there is no other question on the part of Peru in regard to the claim made by the United States, except that of submitting it to an arbitration, the undersigned believes that a mixed commission appointed respectively byj both governments, would settle the points in dispute as well as it could be donft by the arbitration of a foreign power. His instructions do not permit the undersigned to go any further in the present mat- ter. He has frequently informed the Peruvian Government, and ho now explicitly re- peats it to His Excellency the Minister for Foreign Affairs, that he cannot for a moment accept any proposal which might tend to infringe or to cast any doubt upon the unques* tionable rights and privileges enjoyed by American citizens in their legitimate com- merce. And it is not only the duty but the firm determination of the Government of the United States to protect that commerce under all circumstances. This is with the gov- ernment a supreme principle indispensable to its existence, and superior to any consid- erations, how great soever they may be, and which the government regards as superior even to those considerations which by reason of their gravity, and for the sake of pro- priety and convenience, might he submitted to the arbitration of a third Power. 13T On this ground the undersigned cannot admit any discussion which might involve the possibility of accepting the proposition of the Peruvian Government. The determination of His Excellency's government, not to accept of any of the bases proposed by the un- dersigned for the settlement of the question of the ships upon the arbitration by a third Power, as the only expedient for a friendly solution, was the reason which induced the undersigned to request his passports, in obedience to his instructions. These have already been handed to the undersigned by the Peruvian Government, and diplomatic relations between the two republics have been suspended. Consequently, the undersigned cannot receive any official communication from His Ex- cellency the Minister of Foreign Affairs, except the clear and distinct acceptance of the first proposition contained in the note of the undersigned, under date of the 5th of June last, or the acceptance of one of the bases which the undersigned has had the honor of proposing to the Government of Peru. The undersigned, after thanking His Excellency the President of the Republic, and His Excellency the Minister for Foreign Affairs, for the flattering opinion which they have been pleased to express of him personally, avails himself of the occasion to reiterate to His Excellency Senor Melgar, the assurance of his highest consideration, J. R, CLAY. To His Excellency the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Peru. CIRCULAR. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS OF PERU, ) LIMA, October 18th, 1860. f The diplomatic relations which have existed between Peru and the United States being interrupted, and the diplomatic agent of the United States accredited to this Republic, being about to quit this country, the persons, property, and commerce of the citizens of those States remain under the protection of the Peruvian Govern- ment, and in the enjoyment of all the guarantees assured by the law to natives. If, under any circumstances, an act of abuse, injustice, or hostility, against a citizen of the Union would be punishable now, that they continue to reside in the country trusting in the justice which distinguishes the present Administration, it is necessary, not only in compliance with the Constitution, and with article 2 of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce, and Navigation, of July, 1851, which exists be- tween this country and the United States, but also in demonstration of the fact that Peru rises to the height of the civilization of the age, that you should charge most especially all the authorities in your district to scrupulously see that the persons and property of said citizens residing or traveling in the Republic be, as I have already had the honor of saying to you, respected and secured, affording them all the protection which the laws assure them, and taking all precautionary measures to prevent the complication of the present situation, or the originating of com- plaints and accusations, which the national dignity requires should be avoided under all circumstances. I would but offend your intelligence, were I to go on and point out to you the means of carrying into effect these orders, which I beg you will have the kindness to put in force immediately, and I have no doubt that the simple mentioning of the same to you will lead to the fulfillment of the plausible object which I have in view in addressing to you this order, by the special direction of His Excellency the President of the Republic. JOSE FABIO MELGAR. 18 188 (Translated from the French.) OFFICE OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, ) Political Department, Section of Litigous Affairs. \ PARIS, July 15th, 1858. To Mr. HUET, Consul-General and Charge* d' Affairs of France, at Lima; Sir, In your official despatch of 25th February last, you have informed me of the re- clamation presented against the Peruvian Government by Mr. Frederick Freraut, a French citizen, residing at Iquique, and Consular- A gent of France at that place. Mr. Freraut states that he had purchased from General Rivas, who was insurrected against the Government established at Lima, the right to take guano from the deposits at Pabellon de Pica and Punta de Lobos, and that two ships chartered for the purpose of taking in cargoes of the said fertilizer had been captured by the Peruvian Govern- ment. In virtue of these facts, Mr. Freraut claims an indemnity of $87,773, and has applied to you requesting you to claim this sum from that government. You have re- mitted to me Mr. Freraut's statement and request, with the accompanying documents, and asked for my instructions on the subject. The importance of the reclamation, Mr. Fre- raut's position, and the nature of the facts, give to this question such a grave character, that I have thought it proper to submit it to the investigation of the Committee on, Litigous Affairs in my department. This committee issued, on the 22d of June, the following report ; " Taking in consideration that the Peruvian Government has declared in numerous documents which have received great publicity, even in France, that cargoes of guano could only be taken from the deposits at the Chincha Islands and in virtue of special per- mits issued by the Custom- House at Callao, after the fulfillment of certain previous formalities required by it ; and that, moreover, the said Peruvian Governments has made known his intention of persecuting and capturing all the vessels that might violate these established rules ; " That, with a full knowledge of these facts, Mr. Freraut bought from General Rivas these cargoes ; that he ought to have foreseen all the risks to which he was exposing himself in this business, and that he cannot raise legitimate reclamations grounded on the duty of the Peruvian Government to secure the fulfillment of the laws and defend the national property against the enterprises of revolutionary chiefs, even with the employ- ment of force ; " That if a nation can, sometimes, remain obliged, in consequence of agreements or acts of a government de facto, this is only when the nation has been profited by them, or when there is a question of reparation for acts of violence or despoil, or, finally, when there are formal stipulations for it in treaties of pacification or acts of amnesty; but that none of these considerations justify the pretensions of Mr. Freraut; "That the contract made by him with Rivas, very far from being profitable to the Peruvian Government, had, on the contrary, the object and effect of affording resources to his enemies ; that Mr. Freraut has not been coacted in any way, but that he volun- tarily contracted with the government de facto of General Vivanco; and that the govern, ment of General Castilla has not bound itself in any way to fulfil the obligations con- tracted by his adversary ; "Taking in consideration that the decisions of the European Courts of Justice, by which it has been denied to the Government of Peru the restitution of the cargoes of guano taken away in violation of its fiscal regulations, have been pronounced under very dif- ferent circumstances and when those cargoes had already been introduced in Europe ; that, besides, these decisions have been grounded on the principle that in questions of movable property possession answers for title, unless it is lost or stolen property : that in Mr. Freraut's case this principle has no application-] 139 " The Committee is of opinion that Mr. Fre>aut has no right to claim any indemnity from the Peruvian Government for the seizure of his ships and cargoes." I have given my approval to this opinion of the Committee on Litigous Affaiis. Receive,