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 TRUE AND FAITHFUL 
 
 aRelatton of a Utortfjp Bfecourse^ 
 
 BETWEEN 
 
 COLONEL JOHN HAMPDEN 
 
 AND 
 
 COLONEL OLIVER CROMWELL. 
 
 PRECEDED BY AN 
 
 EXPLANATORY PREFACE, 
 
 LONDON : 
 CHAPMAN AND HALL, 186, STRAND, 
 
 1847. 
 
 FORD EXCHANGE. 
 

 iiys 5' 
 
PREFACE. 
 
 The annexed Tract purports to be written by 
 the Reverend Dr. Spurs to we. From the date 
 assigned it appears as though the conversation 
 had taken place but a week before Hampden 
 received his death-wound on Chalgrave Field, 
 and a short time after the promotion of Crom- 
 well from the rank of Captain to that of Colonel 
 commanding a Regiment of Horse in the Army 
 of Lord Fairfax. About this time, as we are told 
 by the Diurnals, by Ludlow, Clarendon, White- 
 locke, and most of the other contemporary An- 
 nalists and Historians of that Civil War, great 
 discontents had arisen in the Parliament and in 
 
iv PREFACE. 
 
 the Army against the dilatory proceedings of the 
 Earl of Essex, who was in chief command as 
 Generalissimo of the Forces of the Parliament, 
 and directed in person the operations in the 
 Midland Counties. And much discourse there 
 was, even in the Grand Committee at West- 
 minster, of a project for placing Hampden at 
 the head of the Army employed to cover the 
 approaches to London, and watch the move- 
 ments of the King, whose head quarters were 
 then at Oxford, and who held the greater part 
 of the country from thence to the West, where 
 Lord Goring commanded for him against Sir 
 William Waller. 
 
 In consequence of the better discipline of the 
 King s Troops in the field, and the many reverses 
 which had, of late, been suffered by the Parlia- 
 ment's Army, the subject of a " New Model" 
 was also in discussion among some of its prin- 
 
PREFACE. V 
 
 cipal leaders. This had been strongly urged by 
 both Cromwell and Hampden, even as early as 
 the beginning of the Campaign of 1643, and was, 
 soon after the death of Hampden, carried into 
 effect by Cromwell. 
 
 It will be observed that reference is made an 
 the following discourse to another which, it 
 seems, had been held between them some time 
 before, wherein Cromwell had spoken to Hamp- 
 den of the necessity of introducing better mate- 
 rials and a higher spirit among the regiments. To 
 this Cromwell himself referred, many years after, 
 in the published conference between him and 
 the Parliamentary Committee at Whitehall on 
 the subject of a regal form of government. — 
 See Somerss Tracts, vol. vi. p. 368. 
 
 The date assigned to Hampden's death in the 
 first page of the following Tract is at variance 
 with that which is given by some writers, who 
 
vi PREFACE. 
 
 describe it as having taken place six weeks after 
 he received his wound at Chalgrave; and also 
 with Clarendon's account, which gives the im- 
 pression that he survived his wound for nearly 
 three weeks. The Chalgrave fight, as we know 
 from the evidence of all history and of the diur- 
 nals of the time, was on the 18th of June. That 
 Hampden survived it for six weeks, or for much 
 more than as many days, is sufficiently disproved 
 by evidence in* itself undeniable. Observations 
 are made in " The Kingdom's Weekly Intelli- 
 gencer," ending the 4th of July, and pubHshed 
 by authority in London, on the loss which the 
 country had incurred in his death. The Mercu- 
 rius Auhcus of June 24, pubHshed at Oxford, 
 mentions the report of his death ; and the date 
 of his funeral, as given in this Tract, (the 25th 
 of June), is corroborated by the entry in the 
 Register of Great Hampden Parish. 
 
PREFACE. vii 
 
 Dr. Spurstowe appears, from the Register of 
 Great Hampden, to have been Rector of that 
 Parish in 1636. Strenuous was he, and indefa- 
 tigable, (we avoid the ambiguous word "untiring" 
 as perhaps not predicable in both its senses of 
 him as a polemical writer,) in defence of his 
 opinions on Ecclesiastical Discipline. He was, 
 in 1641, one of the contributors to the book 
 called Smectymnuus, a Tract on the subject of 
 Episcopacy in the Government of the Church, 
 which gave rise to much controversy. The title 
 of it was chosen as containing the initial letters 
 of the names of its authors, Stephen Marshall, 
 Edmund Calamy, Thomas Young, Matthew 
 Newcomen, and William Spurstowe. See a 
 Tract entitled " Groanes for Liberty, with a 
 Parallel betweene the Prelacy and Presbytery," 
 by John Saltmarsh, 1646. 
 
 On the execution of the Parliament's ordinance 
 
yiii PREFACE. 
 
 for levying troops, Dr. Spurstowe was appointed 
 Chaplain to John Hampden's Eegiment of Foot, 
 called the " Green Coats/' His name is found, 
 many years after, among the most distinguished 
 of the controversialists of that period, and as 
 one of the friends of the '' old cause" who op- 
 posed the arbitrary measures of the Cromwells 
 during the Protectorate, and of Charles 11. after 
 the Restoration. He published a tract called 
 "Wells of Salvation," in 1655, and "The Spi- 
 ritual Chymist," in 1666 ; during which interval 
 he was deprived of the Headship of Katherine 
 Hall, and of the living of Hackney, as one of 
 the Nonconformist Ministers who were ejected 
 in consequence of the opinions they had main- 
 tained in the Conference at the Savoy, 1662. — 
 See Baxters Narrative of Ms Life and Times, 
 NeaVs History of the Puritans, and Calamys 
 Abridgement. 
 
Relationn of a Difcourfe betwene Colo- 
 
 nell Hampden and Colonell 
 
 Oliuer Cromwel. 
 
Nota. In this difcourfe his (afterwarde) Highnejfe feemeth to fpeake 
 with more reluSfancye of all defyre to treat e with his Ma:*" for accomo- 
 dationn thann in later time he Jhewed^ when y' jealouftes had arifen be- 
 twene y* Army and Parliament, in y" yeare 1647. -^"^ ^^^ knoweth 
 he was thenn forelye tried with dijjimulationn onn allfydes. Soe he took 
 upp that weaponn alfoe^ awhyle^ and not fparinglye ; and preuayled there- 
 with ; as in dede he had at all other armes^ ^g^y^Jl thofe in confix with 
 him, 
 
 w. s. 
 
True and faythfull Relationn of a 
 
 J^orthye Difcourfe^ 
 
 held, June f eleauenth, in y* Yeare of Grace 1 643, 
 
 betwene y^ late Colonell HAMPDEN, 
 
 Kntghte of y^ Shire for y^ Countye oi Buckingham^ 
 in y^ prefente Parliament^ and Colonell 
 
 OLIVER CROMWEL, Burgejfe 
 
 for y^ Towne of Cambridge^ 
 in y^ fame. 
 

 ^^0I7It£. 
 
 Colonell John Hampden, 
 
 Cdlonell Oliuer CromweL 
 
u. 
 
 .^f 
 
 True and fay th full Relationn of a worthy e df- 
 courfe^ helde^ June j^ eleauenth^ in f year e 
 of Grace 1643, betwene f late Colonel] 
 HAMPDEN, Knighte of / Shire for f 
 Countye of Buckingham, in f pfente Par- 
 liainent, and Colonell OLIUER CROM- 
 WEL, Burgejfe in f fame for y Towne of 
 Cambridge. 
 
 Nn y^ twenty e fifth daye oijune^ 
 1 643 , \JVilliam Spurflowe^ Min- 
 ifter of y^ Worde, followed to y^ 
 Graue my mofte reuered friend 
 and benefactor, Mafter yohn Hampden^ who 
 departed this life on y^ 23^^ of y^ fayd moneth; 
 Lorde of y^ mannour of his name, and Colo- 
 nell of foot in y^ Armie of y^ Earle of Eflex, 
 
 His 
 
True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 His Excellencie, Lorde Generall of the Parlia- 
 ment's forces, and commanding in thefe partes. 
 The Bodye was receaued at y^ Church by 
 Mafter Robert Lenthal^ Minifter of y^ Parrifh 
 of Great Hampden^ and followed by noe fmall 
 companye of Souldiers, Countrye Folke, and 
 Gentry e; y^ palle being borne of fix; viz: Colo- 
 nell Arthur Goodwyn^ Mr. Richard Greenvil^ 
 (Sherriffe for y^ Countye,) Mr. Tyrrell^ Mr. 
 If^eji^ and Dr. Giles ^ (Minifter oiChinnor^) and 
 myfelfe; y^ two laft named hauing bin with 
 y^ deceafed Colonell at Thame^ in Oxonfhire^ 
 during y^ dayes in which he languifhed of his 
 hurte receaued in y^ fight near Chalgraue^ and 
 at his death. " Quis defiderio fit Pudor aut 
 Modus." It is well fayd, in y^ Kingdomes 
 Weekly e Intelligencer of y^ weeke laft paft, end- 
 ing f 4^ of y^ Julye, " The loflb of Colonell 
 Hampden goeth neare y^ harte of euerie man 
 that loues y^ good of his King and Countrye, 
 and makes fome conceaue little content to be 
 in y*" armie, now that he is gone. ...... The 
 
 memorye 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 memorye of this deceafed Colonell is fuch that 
 in noe age to come but it will more and more 
 be had in honour and efteeme. A man foe 
 religious, and of that prudence, judgement, tem- 
 per, valoure, and integritie, that he hath left 
 fewe his like behinde him." Nor, in y^ hea- 
 uineffe of this foe fadd a lofle, can my harte 
 finde greater folace, (after y^ inward confciouf- 
 nefle that this good Champion of God's Truth 
 and y^ nationn's Libertyes nowe refteth fro his 
 labours in y^ Mercye and fauour of Him whofe 
 painefull feruante he was,)than in y^ calling back, 
 as it were, to life and companionnfhipp thofe 
 fweet and godlye wordes of his, to foe manie 
 of which, in y^ priuate conuerfe whereto he 
 condefcended with me, my remembrance may 
 faythfullye beare witneffe. " Is verus honos, 
 ea conjunftiflimi cujufque pietas." And I haue 
 done this for y^ better refrefhing thereof, and 
 that my children may beare in minde fome paf- 
 fages of this foe worthye gentlemann's difcourfe, 
 euen in y^ forme and fafhionn as they fell fro 
 
 him ; 
 
 Mymotiuesin 
 y^ doing here- 
 of. 
 
for y' firfte 
 time meeting, 
 fince y' horde 
 was pleafed to 
 remoue to her 
 rewarde that 
 mode excel- 
 lent & Vertu- 
 ous Ladye, 
 MiftrefTe 
 Knigbtlye, y'^ 
 dearlye and 
 deeplyc bc- 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 him; and, peraduenture, (after y^ prefente trou- 
 bles of y' lande may, thro God\m mercie, haue 
 bin healed, and y^ feale of priuitie under which 
 thefe things were fpoken fhall, by y^ cancelling 
 ade of Time, be worne awaye,) they may make 
 
 Y fame more fully e known, for y^ illuftracionn 
 of him who did honnour their father by ad- 
 miffionn unto it. 
 
 It was on a fayre euening of y^ eleauenth of 
 
 Y moneth of yi^;v^laftpafred, it beeingy^ Lordes 
 Daye^ and well nighe y^ funn fetting, that Maf- 
 ter Hampden^ (hauing, on that morning, rid- 
 den with me fro his quarters at WatUngtonn 
 to his own houfe, not more than fome twelue 
 miles diftant, and hauing there encountered, 
 by concerte and appointment, as it feemed, 
 with his two Kinfmen, Mafter Knightelye of 
 NortEtonpoire^ and Colonell Oliuer Cromwel^ 
 frefhe come fro y^ countrye helde by y^ Fair- 
 faxes^ neare Torke^ to fojourne for a fpace with 
 Mafter Rujfel at his houfe of Checkers harde 
 
 by,) 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 by,) walked forth, with Mafter Cromwel^ thro 
 y^ woodes out upon y^ hill of Greene Haley ^ 
 which lieth by y^ roade into Oxonjhire. Thither 
 y^ Dragooner in chardge of their horfes had bin 
 appoynted to followe, when y^ houre fhould 
 come for y^ departure of thefe Colonells to 
 theire feuerall commands. And I, knowing 
 that, in y^ ftreffe of manie houres conference 
 before held in y^ upper Library e, all dining had 
 bin cleane forgotten, or for y^ moft parte prae- 
 termitted by them, and judgeing that to thofe 
 with whom an euentide journey was like to be 
 but a hungrye conclufionn of y^ daye'sfaft fome 
 fmall refeftionn might not come amiffe, thought 
 it fitting to carrye fomewhat in that forte unto 
 y^ Colonells there. Seeing them ftill, as it 
 feemedunto me, engaged in erneft and weigh tye 
 converfe, I ftood awhile aparte; and foe re- 
 mayned; untill Mafter Cromwely efpying me, 
 broke off; and, running towarde me, merrilye, 
 with a " Hey now, Mafter Preefte, trufte me, 
 thou haft fomewhat in thy fifte morefeafonable 
 
 than 
 
 loued Daugh- 
 ter of Mafter 
 Hampden. 
 
True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 Gamefome 
 carriage of 
 Mafter Crom- 
 weL 
 
 than Pfalme or Sermonn;" plucked me down 
 uponn y^ graffe; and, cafting himfelfe by me, 
 called uponn his cofen Hampden to doe y^ 
 like, and fit there with him, " not un thank- 
 fullye," fayd he, "at y^ table which this chofen 
 Leuite of y^ houfe of Ifrael hath fpread in y^ 
 Deferte of y^ Wandering, euen in the Wilder- 
 neffe of y^ hill countrye." Then, after a fhort 
 and perfunftorye meale, not without a louing- 
 cupp, pledged by Colonell Cromwel^ (whofe 
 gamefome carriage I, not hauing, before, bin in 
 his companye, and knowing him onelie by re- 
 porte as a graue and ftedfafte labourer in y^ 
 good caufe, did deeme not a little noteable and 
 ftrange,) thefe gentlemenn purfued their dif- 
 courfe; which I, (being by them courteouflye 
 admitted to be a filent witneffe thereof,) did, 
 while y^ memorie was yett frefhe, for furer re- 
 tentionn, fett downe in writing. It was, in 
 forme, and verie nearelye in y^ wordes, as fol- 
 loweth. 
 
 "And 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 " And now," fayd Mzi^tr Hampden^ " marke Coioncii 
 me well, deare Cofen; (for I would not haue (^^v^th. 
 you thinke I fpakelightlye, or in hafte, erewhile, 
 of a matter that toucheth Us all, and y^ Great 
 Worke, foe nearlye ;) what I made bould to 
 throwe out, a while agoe, for your better judge- 
 ment, is a thought not newlye fown within me, 
 but which, in dede, took roote euen at y^ be- 
 ginning of laft Autumn's Campaign, and hath 
 flirewdlye ripened under y^ ftreffe of this Sum- 
 mer's hott encountering. We entered,Colonell 
 Cromwel^ on this worke with much and verie 
 weigh tye thoughte; after long enduring, and 
 not without prayer. And you, and I, and all of 
 Us, onn whom hath fallen y^ chance to beare 
 a forward parte in y' great controuerlie, and to 
 be, under God^ y^ mouers of his poore people of 
 y' realme therein, fawe well y^ ftreightes into 
 which ill men had runn y^ veffell of y^ publick 
 weale, nigh euen to y^ foundering ; and that 
 our dutyes, owed unto y^ people's fafetye, left 
 Us noe other wayeto difentangle from befetting 
 
 rockes 
 
8 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 Prouocatiues 
 unto Parlia- 
 mentarye re- 
 fiftance. 
 
 Euen unto 
 Warr. 
 
 rockes and whirlepooles y^ priuiledges which 
 our fathers and brethren had giuen Us in chardge, 
 but by Handing forth into y^ open Sea; yea euen 
 tho, perchance, y^ darkeft ftormes, and fuffer- 
 ings, and perills of Ciuill Warr fhould be before 
 Us. When y^ King^ by fubfidies wrefted wide 
 from y^ purpofes for which y^ Parliament had 
 granted them, by contributionns leauied under 
 Priuie Scales, and by loanes and fuccours fro 
 malignantes, by bargaynes with renegade Ay^^^/J, 
 truce with y^ Iripoe Rebells, and inpourings of 
 wilde clubbe men from Wales^ (deaUng with 
 all y^ elementsof mifcheif in three Kingdomes,) 
 nay, (under fauoure maye I add,) countenance 
 and Ayde too fro fome of a farr better forte, 
 Gentrye and men of honnour, who long had 
 flood for Libertye in Parliament^ but who, onn 
 declarationn of Warr, claue to what they be- 
 leaued to be y^ caufe of y^ Lorde's Anoynted ; 
 when, I (2cy^y^King unhappily e iffued his Com- 
 mijflionn of Arraye, (defenfiuelye encountered 
 by our Ordinance to y^ Affociated Countyes,) 
 
 we 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 we faw y^ whole perill before us. Great meanes, 
 great powers, great appliances ; arms, pouder, 
 fayre ftore of moneye, nay Garrifonns, already in 
 oppoling handes. We faw all this. But, hauing 
 putt our handes to y^ ploughe, we looked not 
 back. 
 
 Yett one thing hadd we, mofte of Us, ftil to 
 learne, good Kinfmann. The warrlike fpirit and 
 high bearing of y^ Nationn fauoured much y^ 
 aduerfe partye. I meane not by this y^ mere 
 crafte of Warr, brought in among Us from y^ 
 Schooles of Germany e or Sweeden; nor yet y^ 
 ualour, prudence, or readyneffe, which leadeth 
 to aduantage in y^ iielde. But what I meane 
 is thofe excitements, how unreafonning foeuer, 
 whereby menu in battaglia are greatlye ftirred. 
 The Spurr, as it were, in y^ fides of an hofte 
 with an Enemy e in front; and efteemed by y^ 
 mere vulgar in y^ conflide euen as tho they 
 in dede were what had moved y^ more refledt- 
 ing forte unto y^ undertaking. Arguments 
 prefented which fpeake foddainelye and win- 
 
 ninglye 
 
 Dangers and 
 difaduantage 
 in y'' (^ Warr, 
 not unforc- 
 feen. 
 
 Recounteth 
 aduantages 
 plainelye on 
 
 C 
 
lO 
 
 Difaduantages, 
 contrariwyfe, 
 on that of y*^ 
 Parliament. 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 ninglye to y^ fenfe ; y^ Crowne of Rnglande on 
 a hedge ftake, and y^ like; the verie trumpett 
 of y^ herauld, that foundeth in their eares, 
 hung with y^ Royall Blazonnrye; and y^ pen- 
 non of y^ gentleman y^ fame under which his 
 anceftour went to battle at y^ King's fide. 
 Nay; worfe than images hauing noe reall im- 
 port, or than familiar wordes whofe reall import 
 is abufed. Vice, and Violence, as well as 
 Vanitye, mafkers in y^ pageaunte; and made 
 to pafs in drefies of a fafhionn hardlye leffe 
 commended. The lemann's fauour, y^ plunder 
 of y^ poore, y^ hottefl: pafTionns, lawleffe loue 
 and lawleffe hate, haue high and ftirring watch- 
 wordes of their owne, wherewith to crye loud- 
 lye and cheerfullye to y^ Souldier, We haue, 
 on our parte, but graue and ftubborn memo- 
 rye of rightes inherited, and wronges endured. 
 Nay, wronges, for y^ moft parte, nott foe much 
 endured as plainelye menaced. Priuiledges fett 
 at nought by leauies of troopes and of moneye, 
 without confent of Parliament; freedome of 
 
 fpeech 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 fpeechdenyed; and libertye of confcience feared 
 into a feerefye befitting onelie Sinn and Shame ; 
 or openlye reuiled and perfecuted, if it ftande 
 forth in y^ light and broad path of y^ open 
 world. 
 
 Thefe be things, whereto we, and fuch as 
 we, cann in noe wyfe patientlye conforme our- 
 felues. And thefe haue moued our hartes to 
 that we knowe to be a righteous reuolte; not 
 agaynfl: y^ Kmg; but agaynft y^ tyrannie of his 
 ill aduifers, who would ouerturne y^ free Mo- 
 narchie of this lande, and fett upp in its place 
 an arbitrary e rule, before unknowne therein. 
 Thefe, I repeate, are graue and weightye mo- 
 tiues, among menn who haue well fcanned and 
 pondered themm ; but are noe fierye incentiues 
 to y^ Souldier in y^ field. Befides, this may 
 be fayd in your hearing, Kinfman and Frende, 
 and in hearing of this worthye Minifter, a dif- 
 crete and filent wittneffe of y^ priuateft dif- 
 courfe of frendes, (and who well knoweth it, 
 in what himfelfe hath feen,) wee lacke thofe 
 
 infufionns 
 
 II 
 
 Hee doth, in 
 dede. 
 
12 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 infufionns in our armie, which might giue our 
 verie troopers to underftande they ride in com- 
 panye, not oneUe with honneft menn, but with 
 Gentlemenn alfoe." 
 
 Coloncll 
 
 Cromtoel 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Reprehend- 
 cthCol: 
 Hampden, as 
 tho fwallowed 
 upp of y* 
 Vanityes of 
 lineage and 
 herauldrye. 
 
 Lorde Brooke 
 did well ; in 
 noc wyfe gor- 
 geouflyc 
 cladd. 
 
 Likeneth my 
 Lorde to y'^ 
 leane Kine 
 and fcurvye 
 eares of Pba- 
 roab y* King. 
 
 Lookc for 
 helpe onelie in 
 righteouf- 
 ncfle, ualoure. 
 
 Cromwel. " Nay, Godamercye, goodman 
 yohn^w\i2it maggotts art thou a breeding nowe? 
 Thou fpeakeft here as a verie King at Arms ; with 
 thy Saxon Pedigree and Norman Surcoate ; as tho 
 y^ emptye fcroll were a ftoute leading ftaffe, and 
 y^ purfled blazonn were harnefTe of righte goode 
 fworde proof. Faddle. 5r^<?i^^ fought well, and 
 was well followed too, under his fteel gorgett, 
 and coate of Buff; and y^ buUett fro S^ Chadd's^ 
 I trowe, would not haue turned awaye, albeit 
 his capp ofmayntenance haddbin upon hishedd. 
 Remember, y ^ leane kine oiPharoah did deuoure 
 y^ lleeke and greafie fattlings of y^ herde, and 
 y^ranke eares of Corne did bowe before y^ thinn 
 and ill-fauoured. Trufte me, if we doe looke 
 for helpe at all, faue onelie in y^ righteouffneffe 
 of our Caufe, and y^ ualoure of our fide, and y^ 
 
 fauinge 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 fauinge healthe which cometh not of y^ arm of 
 flefhe, we be fitting but on addled egges, the 
 which, after much adoe, £hal come to nought. 
 Pardonn y^ brewer oi Huntingdon^ if he fpeake 
 his minde foe bouldlye to y^ greate Parliament 
 Driuer of Wejiminjier^ and y^ Shepherde King 
 of y^ C hilt ems '^ 
 
 Hampden. " Nay; gibe not at my poore 
 witt, good Oliuer ; and fpare me, praye, thofe 
 tweakes and bobbes; the which, indede, en- 
 force not argument ; nor yett are anfwers unto 
 it. If thou wilt fauoure me foe farr as rightlye 
 to recall what I haue ftriuen to expreffe, then 
 fhalt thou admitt to me I fpake not of y^ Vani- 
 tyes anie more than of y^ Vices of thofe who 
 be in arms agaynft us, as beeing things mete for 
 us to covett, or to copie; nor yett of herauldrye, 
 or y^ vayne glorye thereof, as being weapon of 
 auayl either to wound or warde. The gallant 
 and true hearted Brooke^ of whom thou fpakeft; 
 I will fpeake of him too. Under his leathern 
 
 Coate 
 
 13 
 
 and y' fauing 
 healthe fro 
 aboue. 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpcaketh. 
 
 Excufcth 
 himfelfe, and 
 remindeth 
 Col. Cromwel 
 of whatt 
 truelyc he 
 fayd. 
 
True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 Coate and iron Jack, (y^ nobleft bearings anie 
 man can fhewe when his countrye hath taen y^ 
 fielde,) he was noe worfe, I doe fubmitt, for 
 that he had fome blonde within him that might 
 not blenche euen before y^ fixteene quarterings 
 of y^ Palatine. But he is gone to y^ greate 
 rewarde of a blameleffe Hfe and honnourable 
 death. And forelye doe wee miffe of him. 
 What I fayd, Cofen, or did intende, is that y^ 
 pietie, and honneftie, and refolutionn, of y^ 
 leaders doe euer neede fome fhorte and readye 
 courfe, (fuch indede as Brooke had found,) into 
 y' fpiritts of them that followe; thro which to 
 runn; warme too as in y^ hartes of thofe whofe 
 cuftom of deliberationn doth in noe wyfe abate 
 y*^ earneftneffe of their zeale. That we beginn 
 to fayle in authoritie, like what y^ leaders of y^ 
 aduerfe partye holde, by eafyer means, tho ar- 
 tificiall. That, hence, we lacke celeritye, and 
 unionn; and y^ caufe languifheth throughout. 
 My proofes are what, to our greate griefe, you 
 knowe, and fee, more clearlye than I, in my 
 poore 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 poore waye, can leade you to confefTe. The 
 ftreame of War runns harde and ftrong agaynft 
 Us. Defeate uponn defeate; defecftionn onn 
 defedionn. I fpeake not now of y^ falling off 
 of fome, our fellowes in counfell, our familiarr 
 friends, and kinfmcnnyCromwe/^ newlye brought 
 in queftionn ; how grieuous foeuer and prefente 
 alway to our hartes. God fend them a good de- 
 liuerance fro that guilt. But I fpeake here of 
 more generall griefes. For manie moneth's 
 fpace, Englande hath bin filled with bloude. 
 Her townes, naye houfes, made garrifonns. 
 The felfe fame ground foughten ouer manie 
 times. More fieges than citties; more fkirmifties 
 than fields. And yett is that fucceffe, which we 
 had hoped for from a fhort fierce ftruggle, as 
 remote as when y^ King of Englande s ftandard 
 was firfte rayfed, and his fworde drawn forth, 
 agaynft her people and her lawes, in Auguji 
 laft. Nay, morefoe; asitappeareth. Well and 
 manfiillye did we enter onn our dutyes. \j2aA!t- 
 lyeandmournfullye doewepurfue them. What 
 
 was 
 
 M 
 
 Alackc for y""' 
 back flideings 
 of Matter Ed- 
 mund Waller y 
 and Alexan- 
 der Hampden, 
 
 The horde his 
 great mercyes 
 
i6 
 
 (hewed Uf- 
 warde. 
 
 Edge HiUe. 
 
 Ay. and 
 handes too. 
 
 Dutch Gold, 
 and rauening 
 Armada of 
 Lorrainers, 
 preuented. 
 
 True and faythfuU Relationn 
 
 was y^ iflue of that Autumn^s and Winter's 
 worke } Warwicke^ Bromicham^ Couentrye^ hadd 
 brauelye ftode y^ aflault, and rowled it back 
 from their walls upon y^ enemye in y^ open 
 Countrye. The Armie Roy all, atourfirft pitched 
 encounter, broke down, like a water-cloudeup- 
 onn Us in Keynton Vale. We draue them, agaynft 
 uantage ground, home to their lines agayn; foe 
 mangled, thatt their hofte, which, euen fro 
 Shrewjburie^ had raced with us for y^ prize of 
 London^ was fayne to betake itfelfe, by yett more 
 haftie marches, to fhelter in y^ walls oiOxforde. 
 Redding had fallen to Us. Hull was releaued. 
 Waller was victorious in y^ Weft; and y^ Fair- 
 faxes in y^ North. Port/mouth and Plymouth 
 were y^ eyes of y^ Coriionwealth towarde y^ 
 Channell ; and JVarwicke^ with a mightye fleete 
 upon y^ Eafterne Coafte, ftaunched y^ in flow- 
 ing of Dutch Gold, defigned to feed y^ Kings 
 battel, and frowned back y^ Armada of Lor- 
 rainers^ ready e whetted for inuaflonn. And what 
 now? Ourfleetetruelydothkeepey^Sea; buty^ 
 
 armed 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &:c. 
 
 17 
 
 armed deftrudlionn cometh uponn Us fro within. 
 Not a line of poftes doe we holde but an Ene- 
 mye is behinde, or breaketh thro where he 
 lifteth, to rauage y^ countrye betwene Us and 
 where y^ Parliament is fitting, among trayned 
 bandes daylie muftering for y^ alarum to calle 
 them to defende theire barricadoes. Redding 
 is furrendered; and y^ Kings troopes houlde 
 y^ paffe betwene Us and y^ Weft. There, Waller 
 hath muche adoe to keepey^ field, euenagaynft 
 drunken Goring^ and madd Wilmott, Bridge- 
 water and Barnjiaple are in their handes; and 
 Exeter^ Taunton^ ?indi Ply mouthy are beleaguered. 
 Lorde Fairfax and his gallant Sonn can, as 
 Thou knoweft, but poorelye looke on at fan- 
 tafticke Newcajlle^ and y^ Gentrye of y^ North; 
 who are in ftrength, euen to y^ gates oi New- 
 arke. The Scott s are motionlefle. With fmall 
 care for our concernementes, or for y^ aduance- 
 mente or maintainance of ciuill Libertye within 
 this realme; nay more, (I fpeake my priuateft 
 thoughtes,) contrariwyfe, diflaffecfted both to 
 
 our 
 
 We are chaf- 
 tened nowe ; 
 in loue, as our 
 trufte is. 
 
 Queftionneth 
 y* truftewor- 
 thynefle of y*^ 
 Scotts. 
 
i8 
 
 Slowe we are 
 in dede ; and 
 in harte too ; 
 y^ Lorde 
 quicken oure 
 heauinefle. 
 
 True and faythfuU Relationn 
 
 our Caufe and Us. Exemptionn fro the impo- 
 fitionns o{ Laud's Seruice booke, and integri- 
 tie of Religious Gouernance for theire Na- 
 tionn, (as in f Bijhopfs Warr, foe now,) is all 
 wherein they doe beare fympathye with Us. 
 They tender Us theire ayde, ay, and will giue 
 it, all y* more freelye in proportionn as we doe 
 neede it lefTe. They play for Time, with y^ 
 termes of theire Couenante, and haggle for a 
 fubiidie, as theire price for mouing towarde Us. 
 Wherefore? Becaufe ofour flowenefre,and theire 
 mifgiuings of y^ ilTue. Here, among thefe fmall 
 and fcattered poftes,butlitde more thanadaye's 
 march fro London^ we haue fcantlye powers 
 enow, or foe handled, as to ftopp y^ Prince Pa- 
 latine and his troopers; much leffe to punnifh 
 theire nightlye maraudings in y^ countrye we 
 houlde. And, euerie where, y* mine of our 
 Caufe is all y* more in hazarde, iince y^ pub- 
 lique apprehenfionn doth augure litde leffe. 
 
 We lacke energy CjCroz^^w/. We lacke, there- 
 fore, y^trufte both oif Souldiers and y^ people. 
 
 We 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 We muft take y^ hoiife to peeces, with good 
 cautionn, butnoe delaye; andrebuilde it quite; 
 tho ufing, for y^ mofte parte, y^ old materialls, 
 or of y^ felfe fame quarrie; but onn a modell 
 worthyerbothof themandof y^worke in hande. 
 You doe not well, good Oliuer^ to twitte 
 me with my notionn of pouring in a loftier fpi- 
 ritt, and more wholefome elementes, to y^ com- 
 politionn and condud: of our Armie. For fewe 
 things are there that thou fayeft, Kinfmann, 
 which efcape good note from him who know- 
 eth how profitable they be to retayne. Thou, 
 firft, did'fl: putt me onn this waye of thinking. 
 I doe remember well, euen before this daye, 
 how you fpake of our regimentes, as made upp, 
 fayd you, for y^ mofte parte, of olde decayed 
 feruing menn and tapfters, and fuch kinde of 
 fellowes; while theire's are of gentlemenn's 
 younger fonns, and perfonns of qualitye; adding 
 that we muft haue menn of a fpiritt likelye to 
 goe onn as farr as gentlemenn will goe; or elfe 
 be beaten ftill. I told you then, Cofen, I thought 
 
 you 
 
 19 
 
 Y* houfe to 
 be taken to 
 peeces, with 
 good heede, 
 
 andrebuilded, 
 
 Soe indede it 
 appeareth; as 
 His Highnefle 
 did after- 
 warde confeis 
 in y*^ confer- 
 ence holden 
 at Whitehall, 
 in April, 
 1657 ; and as 
 publilhed by 
 authoritie. 
 
 bRAH y 
 
20 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Cromwel 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Noe putting 
 off. Noe re- 
 
 mora. 
 
 Marke this. 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 you fpake a good notionn; but imprafticable. 
 It may be I fpake not all my thoughtes in this. 
 Meethinkes I fee a Remedye, tho not eafie to 
 be entered onn without more authoritie than 
 perchance anie one or two, of whateuer creditt, 
 might bring to ripeneffe; inafmuch as it requi- 
 reth a generall confente of all." 
 
 Cromwel. " If I doe fpy thy meaning, nowe, 
 I warrante thee my notionns jumpe with it 
 Truelye fomewhat in this forte haue I defyred, 
 as verie needfull. And, furthermore, frende, 
 am I in agreement with thee that it cannot fit- 
 lye brooke delay e. Soone done, beft done, was 
 euer a good faying. As touching y^ gentillitie, 
 we will not difpute. Of y^ fpiritt I haue much 
 to fpeake. And hugelye pertinent unto y^ 
 matter now in hande. The newe modell, I 
 grant, prefTeth. Ay and more. Fitter handes 
 are a wanting. Fitter to guide. And noe where 
 more thann here. I fpeake not now of y^ Fair- 
 faxes. Noe ; nor yett of Manchejler ; nor of our 
 
 goode 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 goode Waller; noe, nor oi Skippon. The Lorde 
 knoweth I doe not. I knowe not of a furetye 
 that I fpeake of anie particular mann. Tho I 
 haiie, fometimes, hadd my thoughtes of this 
 one, and of that. The Lorde fhall declare, in 
 his good time, who are y^ chofen veffells for 
 his glorie, and his people's comforte. But there 
 are better and worfe to leade herein. Stronger, 
 and weaker. God fhall judge. But, truelye, y^ 
 Counfell of Warr are godlie menn; and not 
 without theire difcontentes, as I am tolde. Now, 
 euen here; in this mid pathe, as thou fay eft, 
 betweney^J^T/V/^ and London ; All menn knowe 
 that thy voice, Cofen, hath bin euer for a better 
 ordering, and a liuelier profecutionn of y^ Warr 
 thann it hath pleafed y^ Lorde to commende to 
 y^ hartes and underftandings of fome, perad- 
 uenture, who are in higher places thann thou 
 art, yack. I fpeake it to noe man's prejudice or 
 difprayfe; God wott. But as y^ Counfell at Wejl- 
 minjler^ nay and y^ Armie too, fpeake of thee. 
 Jack Hampden^ and of fome others, known to 
 
 them 
 
 21 
 
 Noe truelye; 
 but of another, 
 I trovve; in 
 higher 
 
 chardgc, and 
 nigher, thenn, 
 unto them. 
 
22 
 
 True andfaythfull Relationn 
 
 them and thee, but helde in lefTe efteeme," — 
 (and heere Colonell Cromwel^ drawing his cofen 
 to him, did addreffe a fewe wordes, whifper- 
 ingelye, not meant for me to catch; nor,indede, 
 would I haue fought to doe foe; feeing they 
 were not for me. Nor what they were doe I 
 knowe; tho I haue my though te. This, how- 
 foeuer,! knowe; thsLtColonGllHampclen turned 
 him haftilye awaye, and thus refumed.) 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Craueth to be 
 excufed fro 
 giuing eare to 
 f fayd laft 
 infufionns of 
 
 Hampden. " Cofen, your good opinionn of 
 me, and thatt of others, is one of maniebenefitts, 
 for the which, tho not unthankefull, I mufte re- 
 may n an unprofitable deb tore. I render, in 
 dede, mofte hartye thankes to that good for- 
 time which hath giuen to me y^ loue of thofe to 
 whom I cann render noe further returne, faue 
 what is riche in affedlionn, butt poore in meanes 
 of feruice. This debt it is to my profitt, in dede, 
 to acknowledg; fince y^ acknowledgment 
 thereof is, itfelfe, a plea for y^ encreafe of my 
 generall creditt. But, I praye you, forbeare to 
 
 wander 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 wander fro the matter whereto I would liften 
 more ready lie than to anie other; as touching 
 y^ newe modell and difcipline and fpiritt of our 
 armie ; the which, leaning other things to thofe 
 chardged with themm, cannot but be gaynfulle 
 for one to be pofleffed of who hath y^ condud: 
 of a regimente in y^ field." 
 
 Cromwel. " Thou haft verilie a waye with 
 thee, yack Hampden^ which others, (I faye it 
 to thy face,) doe alfoe note in thee, of putting 
 amann oiFfromy^verie nerue and quicke which 
 hee mofte willinglye would touch; when it fit- 
 teth not thy humoure to entertayne y^ fame; 
 pinning him downe, as it were to y^ quod libet 
 ofthychoyce. Well. The Z/^r^<^ judge be twene 
 thee and me. Jack. I doe but foUowe as thou 
 leadeft; and, therefore, leaning y^ matter of a 
 better ordering and appoyntment in high places, 
 (on which, in dede, I would fayne haue pof- 
 fefled thee of fome fanfyes of mine owne,) to 
 fpeake of y^ fpiritt, which, had I my will, I 
 
 would 
 
 23 
 
 Colonel! 
 Cromwel; 
 and returaeth 
 to y* matter 
 of y* newe 
 modell. 
 
 ColoneU 
 
 Cromwel 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
24 
 
 True and faythf till Relationn 
 
 Whatfpirittto 
 fill y^ mindes 
 of y^ fouldiers 
 withall. 
 
 y* horde i and 
 his ftrengthe. 
 
 would fill y^ mindes of y^ fouldiers withall; and 
 wherewith, as I conceaue, we muft make head 
 agaynft y^ rowfing clamoures of y^ Cavaleeres. 
 I wolde haue a righte infufionn of y^ watch- 
 worde of y^ Lorde^ and his ftrengthe, good 
 Cofen. It fufficeth not that ye feeke y^ Lorde 
 in the clofett onelie, or y^ tente. Ye mufte rayfe 
 your voyce among his fcattered flocke, and 
 fpeake aloude; yea euen as a gofpeller and 
 chofen veflell of his grace. Why, thinke ye 
 that thofe, my obedient Lambes in y^ Lorde 
 and firftlings of his flocke, Ironfides, as by 
 fome men, pleafantlye, they are called, (and 
 truelye they be, after theire miniftrye, of noe 
 unprofitable leauen,) thinke ye there is one of 
 them who, when he layeth hande to hike, bleat- 
 eth not his texte or pfalme, or, when he blow- 
 eth y^ match of his carbine, bloweth it not with 
 y^ breth of comforte, which is of holyneflTe, that 
 Cometh in good feafonn on y^ drye places of 
 Ifraelf There is not one that filleth faddle 
 with me, but, in y^ tabernacle of y^ flefhe, how 
 
 ill 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 ill fauoured foeuer, is, according to his eftima- 
 tionn, uerilie of y^ Saintes of y^ earthe, whofe 
 garmentes fmelle of y^ fweete fauoure of god- 
 lyeneiTe. And I haue cried out to them, euen un- 
 to theire penetralls, as I hauereceaued ftrengthe; 
 and they haue not fallen back, but haue chardged 
 home. Be the Glory His and noe other's. The 
 fworde of y^ Lorde^ and o{ Gideon^ is your one- 
 lie weaponn of endurance agaynft y^ Childrene 
 of darkneffe, yea y^ fierce dint oi Rupert s troop- 
 ers, with theyr clofed uifors and corfelettes of 
 Almayne proofe. 
 
 But fome fmall fwordecrafte alfoe, in y^ ufe 
 thereof, hath bin infufed. I faye it thankfullye. 
 Hoffermann y^ Leipjigger^ late flayne, with me, 
 before GainJbro\ had greate worfhipp as teacher 
 of y^ fwor de-play e. 
 
 Whatthinkeyenow,mann? This, I warrante 
 ye. If I fpake altogether thus in y^ publique 
 eare, as now in thine. Jack Hampden^ and in that 
 of this painefull preacher here, belike I might 
 be held, tho unjuftlye, to my prejudice, to be 
 
 but 
 
 y^ fworde of 
 y* horde and 
 of Gideon, 
 
 " Painefull 
 preacher." 
 And truely, 
 as is my hope. 
 So may I not 
 be puffed upp 
 of y^ fame. 
 
 E 
 
26 
 
 True and faythfuU Relationn 
 
 but as one that carryeth his godlyneffe into y^ 
 markett of worldlye policie and profitt/' 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Reafoneth of 
 y* making of 
 falfe fhewes. 
 
 Hampden. "Infooth, Kinfmann^fuch might, 
 perchance, be y^conclufionn drawn there fromm 
 by fome menn ; and, meethinkes, not whollye 
 without fome colour of likelyehood. Thine 
 endes be honefte, I doe beleaue, Oliuer ; but thy 
 wordes, be affured, doe thee much wrong. 
 Thou haft bin euer a faythfull partner, nay 
 more, in manie thinges a truftye Counfellour, 
 to thofe who haue walked, fide by fide with 
 thee, along a toylfome pathe; and noe peruerter 
 of y^ honeft Truth which we haue ftriuen, thus 
 farr, to folio we. Nor wilt thou euer, it is my 
 hope, doe fuch difhonnoure to thyfelfe and it, 
 (as fome, euen in Counfell on our fide with us, 
 haue bin, unhappilye, much giuen to doe;) 
 making publique fhewe of more than hath war- 
 rantye in confcience or y^ undifguifed current 
 of familiarr difcourfe. For, foe, wouldeft thou 
 be, manifeftlye to thyfelfe, at oddes with y^ 
 
 true 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 true and finccre feruice thou haft bin called to 
 fulfill. And, fometimes, doe I feare it euen 
 of thee ; if euer y^ bloude and flyme of thefe 
 fadd dayes fhould cafte upp a noyfome broode, 
 in various fhapes, to vex and fting thee, and 
 thoufhould'ft be in higheftateof trufte, (where- 
 to, if thefe troubles fhall continue, and G^^fpare 
 thee, indede thou fhalt be, Cromwel^) thou 
 mayeft be led, euen thou, (pardonn me, for I 
 would fayne hope better,) to cloke thyfelfe, 
 awhyle, unworthyelie. Beware of that. Albeit 
 thou mighteft fee therein, perchance, a waye to 
 gayn aduantage ouer bafe and fraudfull mindes, 
 euen at the uerie weaponns they fhall haue 
 forged to mine thee; and, thus, (tho not with 
 y^ " dammees" and " God's Curfe" of y^ Cava- 
 leeres^ nor with the covert defignes of another 
 forte of menn Icoulde name, wolues in fheepe's 
 clothinge, yett after another fafhionn,) take 
 His name in vayne. Such were a Crafte, un- 
 worthye of y^ Caufe and Thee. Soe would it 
 turne y^harteof manie a worthye mannagaynft 
 
 thee, 
 
 27 
 
 and clokeing 
 of fay re de- 
 fignes. 
 
 Other wayes 
 of taking 
 God^s name 
 in uayne, be- 
 fides y^ 
 " dammees " 
 and " God's 
 Curfe" of y'^ 
 Cavaleeres, 
 
28 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 thee, and thy latter dayes be brought into dif- 
 comforte. Seruing y^ Lorde in truth, lett thy 
 feruice be alwaye cleare in worde, and a6le al- 
 foe; giuing an enfample of plaine dealing and 
 plaine fpeakinge, in like forte, to them that 
 followe thee. Praye hartilye for " God with us," 
 and reere y^ bannere whereonn it is writt before 
 y^ people. But make not His gyftes and grace 
 an argument of boafting Vanitye among them, 
 nor of Jefte among our enemyes. Agayne par- 
 donn me, good Cofen." 
 
 Colonel 
 
 Cromzvel 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Make not 
 your cards 
 manifeft unto 
 y*^ aduerfarye. 
 
 Cromwel. " Well preached, ^^ri. Andnowe, 
 I praye thee, fee, in fewe wordes, which in dede 
 doe fuite me beft, (for I haue not y^ gyfte to 
 dreffe upp doctrines in theyre beft apparell,) fee 
 what that would leade to which thou doft 
 aduife; and where perchance all at y^ table 
 with Us play not fayre. This, and noe lelTe. 
 To fhewe y^ inmofte counfells and fecreteft 
 endes, conceaued for y^ publique good within 
 our hartes, to all men, (the more pretious ftill 
 
 r 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 y^ ftake we doe contende for, y^ more openlie,) 
 and to him who playes y^ wager out agaynft 
 Us crying " Aboue boarde I, and noe diflim- 
 ulationn," whilft he flipps y^ cards, and cogges 
 y^ dice. Soe fhould'ft thou be a hopefull game- 
 fter. Noe, yack^ I warrant thee, thou would'ft 
 not be that bubble. Nor art thou. Albeit thy 
 Speech, nowe made, be full of undiionn, and 
 truelye leaueth not eafie holde for anie Jacob 
 to wreftle with." 
 
 Hampden. " If by Diflimulationn thou doft 
 underftande in dede referue, or a cloking of 
 meanes not fitt for common canuaffe or handling 
 of all menn, I grant thee. Such is but to fhunn 
 y^ uncouering of the nakedneffe, thou (hould'ft 
 refpecfte, of fecrete Truth before y^ prying gaze 
 of all fcofFers; of all y^ vulgar, and all y^ de« 
 figning. Such Diflimulationn fhould be ufed, as 
 onelie to auoyd impertinence, and in league 
 ftill with honeftye, as with difcretionn ; Simu- 
 ationn neuer; by the which, in dede, a man 
 
 may 
 
 29 
 
 Spcciallye not 
 unto y* cog- 
 ging Iharper. 
 
 ColoneU 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Simulationn 
 and Diflimula- 
 tionn plainlye 
 and worthilyc 
 diftinguifhed. 
 
3° 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Cromwel 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Twitteth 
 M2Sitr Hamp- 
 den with y^ 
 remembrance 
 of his difcrete 
 and learned 
 fpeech on y^ 
 cafe of y^ 
 Fine Mem- 
 bers, 1 641. 
 Imprinted for 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 may thinke to feme his countrye, but a true 
 man would not choofe to faue her. For, foe, 
 would he lofe himfelfe. Thefe be pradifes 
 begotten of Tyrannye on Feare. Name but 
 y^ parents, and, fure, y^ offfpring neuer cann be 
 entertayned by thofe who haue ftripped off y^ 
 bondfman's cloke, to wreftle in y^ Athletick 
 Garb for Liber tye." 
 
 Cromwel. " Verilye, Cofen, thy wordes doe 
 refrefhe y^ eare, euen as y^ dewe on y^ drye 
 herbe. But yet refolue me this; as thirfting for 
 y^ water brookes of knowledg, that cometh of 
 Truth. I doe remember, Jack^ that, once, thou 
 did'ft difcourfe, to our much edificationn, when 
 y^ five were brought in queftionn, at Weft- 
 minfter ; touching y^ difference betwene a good 
 fubjede and a badd. Somewhat in this forte, 
 then, we heard. That to denye lawfull obe- 
 dience to a King, in his owne perfonn^ and his 
 commandes in Priiiie Council^ or to denye to de- 
 fende his Roy all Priuiledge and Prerogatiue^ 
 
 (with 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 31 
 
 (with fome more to y^ like effede,) is a ftgne 
 of a badd JubjeEie. How is this? Had not y^ 
 King^ I praye thee, commanded, (ay, and in 
 Priuie Counfell too,) the leauie of y^ Shippe 
 Moneye? Nay, afterwarde, did he not clayme, 
 of anciente priuiledge and prerogatiue, to dif- 
 folue his Parliaments at pleafure, and require 
 y^ fole commandemente of y^ Armie, as a guarde, 
 not onelieto himfelfe,butP^r//<3:/;^^;//.^ Againe, 
 was it y® Kings pleafure to annull y^ powers of 
 Conuocationn, or Starre Chamber, or High 
 Commiffionn Courte, or to difchardge his Peeres 
 Spirituall fro y^ upper Houfe, fitting there as of 
 anciente right? And, laft, did he withholde his 
 inhibitionn fro y^ ordinance for rayfing y^ mi- 
 litia of y^ County es, or his proclaiming of thee, 
 and me, and euerie Roundhedd of Us all, nowe 
 at y' worke, as traytours therefor to his perfonn 
 and gouernment? Thou art a good fubjefte 
 and a true, John Hampden. Yett refolue me 
 thefe things, I praye, and how they doe fadge 
 
 with thy definitionn thenn layd downe. Was 
 
 • 
 
 It 
 
 F. Coules and 
 7. B. at f 
 Fighting 
 Cockes. 
 Quod Vide. 
 
 And queftion- 
 neth him as 
 to y^ accord- 
 ance of his 
 a£lionns 
 therewith. 
 
32 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 it but a befeeming cloke for y^ nakedneffe of 
 thofe good purpofes thereafter more openlie 
 declared in y^ Biftiopp's Bill, y^ Roote and 
 Branche, y^ Great Remonftrance, y^ Nineteen 
 Propofitionns, and y^ muftering of y^ quotas of 
 three Countyes uponn Chalgraue field ? I am 
 thy fuitore for a warrantye to make this, thy 
 foregone dodrine, (for fimulationn thou doft in 
 euerie cafe efchew,) jumpe with thy later, of 
 righteous difobedience towarde gouernours." 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 Entreateth 
 that his 
 wordes be 
 whollye re- 
 called, if at 
 all. 
 
 Hampden. " Difobedience to Gouernours, 
 good cofen, is noe worde of mine; noe, nor 
 ad:e neither, as I do beleiue. The Gouerne- 
 mente of this Lande, in my poore judgemente, 
 doth confifte of King and Parliament. And foe 
 haue I fayd, and neuer otherwife. And, fure, 
 you will not conceaue it arrogance in me, if, 
 when you doe fo farr honnoure me as to recalle 
 things deliuered, not inconfideratelye, by me, 
 I would wifhe them recalled in noe other 
 termes but thofe in which indede they felle fro 
 
 mee 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 mee; and not omitting fome which, when I 
 uttered them, I deemed to be of fome momente. 
 Remember, praye, I added alwaye y^ worde 
 " lawfull," to quaHfye " fubmiffionn to com- 
 mandes;" with thefe allfoe; good affeSlionn to 
 f fafetye^ and jujie right es off people^ accord- 
 t7tg to y ancient e and fundament all lawes of y 
 realme^ and with f free confente off Create 
 Counfell off State^ ajfembled in Parliament. 
 I doe, allfoe, remember, at y^ fame time, to 
 haue fayd, as in dede I yett would faye, (how- 
 euer contrarious haue bin y^ late paiTages of 
 this war, or maye be thofe to come, to Us,) 
 To denye obedience to a King^ commanding anie 
 thing agaynfl God's true worfhipp andreligionn, 
 or agaynfy anciente and fundamentall lawes off 
 landcy i7t endeauouring to performe f fame^ is f 
 dutye of a goodfubjeSie. Nor can I fee anie fimu- 
 lationn, noe nor euen diflembled purpofe, in 
 thefedodrines,if I, neuertheleffe, withftande y^ 
 leauieof an unlawfuU taxe ; or, afterwarde, (up- 
 onn y^ inftante perill of a diflblutionn penallye 
 
 to 
 
 3S 
 
 "Obedience" 
 quallifyed by 
 /*■* worde 
 "lawfull." 
 
 Alfoc "affec- 
 tionn to y' 
 juft rightesof 
 y" people," 
 &c. 
 
 Alfoewhento 
 be refilled. 
 
 Juftifyeth -f 
 conformitie of 
 his adles with 
 y*^faydfpeech. 
 
 F 
 
3 + 
 
 True andfaythfull Relationn 
 
 Which y« 
 aggreflbure. 
 King or Par- 
 liament? 
 
 All vindica- 
 tionn refteth 
 hereonn. 
 
 to be enforced as on manie former occafionns 
 with intente to rayfe fupplyes contrarye to 
 lawe,) doe giue my vote for declaring y^ prefente 
 parlia^nent indiffoluble faue with its ownecon- 
 fente. Which of y^ twain it was. His Majeftie or 
 P^r/Z^^^/^/jthatiirftebeganny^ ftruggle of Pri- 
 uiledg, or which to mayntaine y^ fundamental! 
 lawes of y^ lande, pofteritie fhall judge; for, of 
 neceflitye, onn this muft refte all vindicationn 
 of y^ pofture wherein now we ftande. In like 
 manner doe Ijuftifye y^ claymingof y^ militia 
 to Parliament as a guarde to y^ fame, when 
 Digbye and Lunnsforde were at the doores 
 under y^ Kings Commiflionn, with praetexte 
 in dede to guarde, but with purpofe, as We 
 knowe, to bring Us under dureffe. I praye 
 you, witneffe for me, Cofen Oliuer^ in all oure 
 communings together, I neuer fpake as an ill 
 wifher to y^ Kingy or in rebellionn to his juft 
 and lawefull authoritye. I wifhe him well ridd 
 of his euill counfellours ; and, to y^ lafte, yea 
 euen to extreameft force, (fince force hath bin 
 
 putt 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 putt uponn Us,) would ftriue to breake in 
 pceces y^ cuppe they haue rayfed to his lippes; 
 that cuppe, of which they haue drenched 
 themmfelues to maddneffe, till, in theire ex- 
 cefTe, they haue well nighe ouerthrowne all 
 righte, goode manners, and all lawe fett upp 
 to be a fence of Liber tye within this realme. 
 I neuer was agaynft y^ Religionn eftablifh- 
 edd in y' lande, according to f truth (^/'Qod, 
 (for fuch were, I thinke, my wordes;) noe,not- 
 withftanding your pleafante quiddetts touch- 
 ing Bijhopp's Bill, and Root and Branche. In 
 y^ mofte parte, I thinke it's doftrines good, 
 and conformable to God his worde, in holie 
 writt fett downe; albeit I cannot awaye with 
 y^ Pride and Worldlyneffe of Bijhopps^ and 
 would putt them forth, by Lawe, from all 
 fecularr concernementes, I doe rejefte theire 
 "Jus Diuinum," and "et caetera Oath," and 
 utterlye abhominate y^ tenetts foe unfcrip- 
 turally urged before y^ late King James^ in 
 thatt fadd conference at Hampton Courte^ and 
 
 in 
 
 35 
 
 Yea. They 
 were. 
 
 Churche in 
 y* lande ella- 
 blilhedd. 
 Good, as far 
 as dodrinall, 
 for y^ mofte 
 parte. 
 
 Butt Bijhopps 
 to be curbed. 
 
 " Jus Diui- 
 num," and 
 " et caetera 
 oath." 
 
36 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 The fathers 
 haue eaten 
 foure grapes, 
 and y*" chil- 
 dren's teeth 
 are fett onn 
 edg. 
 
 Monarchie 
 made for y* 
 comon- 
 wealthe; not 
 y^ comon- 
 wealthe for it. 
 
 Hopefull and 
 comfortable 
 vvordes of 
 Engiande, as 
 Ihe maye one 
 daye be. And 
 foe I praye. 
 
 in which His Majeftie, that now is, hath bin, 
 to his greate prejudice, brought upp. Herein 
 I was with y^ good Falklande^ (now in this 
 war unhappilye agaynft Us,) and with more 
 circumfpefte, but leffe uprighte, Hyde. 
 
 I reuerence y^ office of King in Englande. I 
 beleiueitnotto beanie where enjoy ned by com- 
 mande o(God^ nor yett embued, as Bifhopp IVei/e 
 did once ungodUlye declare, "withfome fparkles 
 of his diuinitie;" but to be a worthye engine, 
 notwithftanding, for good gouernement; Hke 
 euerye good engine, profitable onelie when 
 worthilye adminiftered, and within y^ fure fafe- 
 guarde of acknowledged lawe. Such Monar- 
 chie it was oure Saxonn Anceftours eftablifhed 
 within this Iflande. Such are we bounden to 
 preferue it; aye, and conformablye too, as 
 changes and requirements of Time in its pro- 
 greffe fhall demande. And fuch I hope that 
 after ages in this lande maye fee it, much 
 amended in it's anciente purpofe ftil ; and fit- 
 ting itfelfe well and gentlye for y^ weale of a 
 
 people 
 
or TrfK 
 
 UNIVF.RSr 
 
 of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 
 
 people who jfhall be ftronger in that knowledg 
 which Cometh of healthie experience than we 
 be. Such hope haue I and cheerfull confidence 
 in things to come ; wherein I fometimes figure 
 forth to myfelfe this oure Englande as fhe fhall, 
 one daye, be. Thefe things, in fine, which I 
 haue layd before you, are what did, fiirther- 
 more, mofte fullye juftifye y^ puUifhing of y^ 
 Ordinance, and muftering, as thou fayeft, of y^ 
 quotas of three Countyes, onn Chalgraue^ where 
 y^ Sunn is now fetting, there, belowe Bledlowe 
 Ridge. And, euen thenn, I did inwardlye ac- 
 knowledg that worke to be foe righteous, as 
 y^ though te hath often fince bin prefente with 
 me, Oliuer^ that noe where could a mann beare 
 more joyefull teftimonie to it, if neede were, 
 with his bloude, than onn that verie grounde 
 where firfte he did engage himfelfe therein. 
 
 Nor am I withoute refpedte perfonall to- 
 warde his Majeftie. Braue he is; and pious; of 
 good partes of learning; aye, and ftored with 
 all quallityes that beft become a gentlemann; if 
 
 37 
 
 we 
 
 Apropheticall 
 thoughte ; 
 foone, alacke, 
 and faddlye 
 fuUfilled. 
 
38 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 HbMa"^ 
 verie forelie 
 diftempcred 
 with King 
 crafte. 
 
 we excepte, indede, (as, unhappilye wee mufte,) 
 whatfhould be euerforemoftein true gentillitie; 
 trufteworthyneffe, and uprighte dealing. 
 
 This wante hath euer bin a fore hindrance 
 to him; and, thro him, to all whofe dutye and 
 good affedionns might mofte aduantage him. 
 Kinge- crafte is a forrie ftaffe, commended to 
 him by an unworthye father. A broken reede 
 it is; one daye to fhrewdlye pierce y^ poore 
 hande that leaneth onn it. His arbitrarye ftub- 
 bornnefle is not that which mofte I reprehend; 
 altho to be oppofed. His diftafte fhewne to- 
 warde free Parliaments; his calling of them 
 but as purueyors to the cupiditie and wafte of 
 worthlefle feruantes, at y^ poore people's cofte, 
 by undue Aydes, and, falfelye termed, Bene- 
 uolences; his wrathfull bickerings with thofe 
 Parliament svAi^w mett; fcatteringthemagayne 
 with y^ breth of his mouth, when they fpake 
 of grieuances to be redreffed; his gouerning 
 withoute Parliaments^ and agaynft Lawe; his 
 imprifonnments, "per ipfum Regem," of thofe 
 
 he 
 
he was pleafed to deem but as ftumbling 
 blockes in the pathe of his proceedings with 
 his Parliaments; nay his leauie of y^ Shippe 
 Moneye, allbeit onn y' verie grounde onn 
 which we ftande I did reiifte it, and foe would 
 doe agayne; nay euen his intemperate and 
 lawlefTe entering of y^ Houfe of Commons^ with 
 his Germann Cofen in harneffe by his fide, 
 and y^ armed rabble of Lunnsforde at his 
 heeles; euen thefe thinges, tho intollerable, are 
 not what haue brought Us to y^ prefente ifTue 
 with him. Had he kept fayth, or fhewne defyre 
 to keepe it; fuch fayth as euen from an ene- 
 mye fholde pafTe with menn for fafe conduce King not 
 thro y^ worlde; nay, (for heere was y^ worfte,) thye. 
 had he not entered into treatyes of folemne 
 engagement with Us, on diuers occafionns, as 
 maye abundantlye be fhewne, with alreadye 
 formed purpofe to undoe us thro our trufte in 
 themm, we had neuer bin forced to this fadd 
 arbitrement of armes. Wimeffe his affente to y^ 
 Create Petitionn of Righte, freely proffered 
 
 and 
 
40 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 and accepted, foone to be left uponn oure 
 Journalls, but as a monument of uayne reliance, 
 openly e and mofte difhonnouringly betrayed; 
 whenn profeffing peace onn his integritie and 
 Royall oath in pledge to Us, his feizing uponn 
 y^ garrifonns held in ftipulationn for Us, and 
 fending of Commiffioners to laye handes uponn 
 y^ pouder of y^ Countyes; his alTurance giuen 
 of abyding neere his Parliament for accorno- 
 dationn,but to gayne occalionn to flee to Torke^ 
 to calle together a junto of feceeding members, 
 foone to be called by y^ name of a Parliament^ 
 antagonifte to that which he had confirmed by 
 ftatute at Wejlminjler^ and beckonn thither his 
 runnawaye Lorde Keeper ^ with y^ greate feale 
 to be affixed to Aftes hauing noe forme or fem- 
 blance of Lawe; and, laftlye, proclayming as 
 Traytors thofe whom he had, at fundrie times, 
 inuited to treatye, he rayfes his ftandarde, un- 
 der which, diuided agaynfl; itfelfe, one parte 
 of y^ Supreme Power of y^ realme doth drawe 
 y^ fworde uponn y^ other. 
 
 Alacke 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 Alacke fory^ ftreightes into which fuch prac- 
 tifes haue driuen Us, whenn y^ wordeofa Prince 
 cann noe longer fuffice as hoftage for his aftes, 
 and noe fafetie remayneth, til his children, and 
 all he hath, be placed in oure handes . Free trufte, 
 Cromwel^ unchecked, is as a fayre ftreame, run- 
 ning a fmooth courfe ouer manie thinges rough 
 and contrarious, which ftil, left farr beneath, 
 breake not nor foyle it; but, eflopped and fti- 
 fled upp, it turneth backwarde, (ftayned much 
 with y^ hue of what hath bin rudelye cafte in 
 it's waye,) to drowne y^ fountaine hedd. 
 
 Naye, warr ittfelfe he hath not waged as one 
 who, with hope finallye to ftaunche y^ wounde, 
 will faythfullye keepe termes of temporarye 
 truce, admitted for propofalls of Peace. WitnefTe 
 his aduance uponn our weakened poftes at 
 Brainforde^ during a ceflation and treatye, 
 agreed to with all formallityes by himfelfe." 
 
 CromweL " Ay, cofen, meethoughte you were 
 a tending thither warde. That morning's draught 
 
 of 
 
 41 
 
 Attack onn 
 Brainfordg, 
 during a ccfla- 
 tionn. 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Cromwel 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
42 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 of Thames water was of unfauorie tafte, and 
 not a little bitter of remembrance, I war- 
 rante, to thofe foe conftrayned to learne y^ 
 true worth of y^ Kinglye worde they helde in 
 pawne." 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
 of whom were 
 Serjeant 
 Major 
 
 paries, and 
 Captaine 
 Lacye, and 
 manie poore 
 Souldiers of 
 y^ meaner 
 forte. 
 
 Hampden. " I tafted it not, Colonell Crom- 
 weL If I had, as did in dede manye a braue 
 fouldier onn that daye, your poore cofen and 
 feruante hadd, in all likelyehood, not nowe bin 
 at your fide, to trouble you with this difcourfe. 
 Noe; we were in jeopardye; and manie forced 
 by y^ fworde into y^ fedges and y^ water, there 
 todrowne. But yett none fled, cofen. Weftode 
 itt out, by God^s helpe, and, with much adoe, 
 made it good, {Hollis and we,) until oure frendes 
 fro London came to oure releife. Nor were we 
 left foe fcante of breth, by choking dufte, and 
 blafte of artillerie, (and Thames water too, fince 
 you will haue it foe,) but wecoulde yett foUowe 
 y^ enemye a pretty fpace thro Kingstonn^ and 
 fing a pfalme of joye, with thankfgiuing, when 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ &c. 43 
 
 y^ deliuerance was affured, and y^ daye oure 
 owne." 
 
 Cromwel. " Nowe pardonn mee. I haue of- Coioneu 
 fended; and knowingelye. In verie truth I did fp^akcTh. 
 but dallye with you. You fpake a good worde 
 in that you fayd y^ fadd inconftancye of that 
 weake Veffell, Charles^ (fayling y^ deftrudionn 
 he doth intende,) is Hke to worke his owne. In 
 this lyeth y^ verie marrowe of oure ftrengthe; 
 which yett, if rudelye touched, wolde bring a 
 palfye, where inwardlye it doth nowe inuigourate 
 and nourriflie all oure motionns. I thanke y^ 
 Lorde^ we cann noe longer treate with him; 
 euen if we wolde. To whattfoeuer termes we 
 nowe might bring him, euen grante him van- 
 quifhedd,fecuritye there is none for Us. Knowe 
 ye not y^ faying of y^ wife man? "Woe to him 
 that lendeth his eare to y^ euill one,o'rfl:retcheth 
 out his hande to y^ tempter;" whoedoth proffer 
 his good thinges, euer with this notable advan- 
 tage ; Treatye made, and controuerfie ended, 
 
 power 
 
4+ 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 Worthye fay- 
 ing of a King 
 of Sparta, 
 
 Reprehendeth 
 Colonell 
 Hampden, as 
 ouermuch a 
 booke man. 
 
 power returneth to him. Soe he taketh backe 
 all he granted; aye and y^ mann^too, bodie and 
 foule; to his undoing. Well was it fayd by y^ 
 Spartann King to him of Perjia^ (Paganns 
 both,) " Nowe, thankes to Tijfaphernes ; for he 
 hath placed y^ Gods onn oure fide." 
 
 Thou haft taen to thyfelfe agoodmottoe, Jack. 
 And well it fitts oure conditionn, nowe. " Noe 
 fteppebackwarde." And this fuffermeto adde, 
 fro the Pfalmijie^ " Lett y^ prayfes of God be in 
 oure mouthe; and in oure handes a two edged 
 fworde." Nowe, truelye, thou art a prudente 
 mann, hauing a tongue of readye witt; aye, and 
 a G^^-ferving Chriftiann; and a ftoute fouldier, 
 with a readye hande too, on occafionn; fighting 
 alwaye in y^ bondes of y^ Lorde^ and of His 
 Grace. But, (let me ftande excufed nowe,) 
 thou art fomewhat ouermuch a booke man, 
 John Ham'pden. Taking God's worde, indede, 
 for Dodrine. Good. They that doe foe fhall 
 neuer fayl. It is, of a truth, y^ abuttreffe of 
 oure Temple. But you take your Plato for 
 
 Policie, 
 
of a worthye difcourfe, &c 
 
 Policie, and your Dautla as your Vade Mecum 
 for y^ conduce of a war like this. And this, 
 I doubte, fhall enfue. After ye fhall haue ferued 
 feuen yeare for y^ Rachel of your hope, ye fhall 
 finde youre felfe, at y^ ende, beguiled with a Leah 
 you aiFede not. It is, (ftillpardonnme,) a fande 
 fpecke euer in your eye. Wipe it oute Mann. 
 A nationn's worke was neuer well done twice 
 in Y fame waye. Trufte to youre owne good 
 brayn for meanes; and, for y^ endes, looke not 
 to what hath bin done aforetime. It mufte be 
 nowe after a fafhionn of oure owne. . Putt not 
 thy good judgemente in thrall, noe, nor thy 
 condu£te neyther, nor y^ reuerende efteeme 
 in which all men holde thee, to thofe of anie 
 Comittee,or of anie mann; be he a Lorde Gen- 
 eral!; or what thou wilt. I fpeake of noe mann 
 in particularr. Let him be Prcefes^ not Prin- 
 ceps ; Dux^ not Imp er at or. And, peraduenture, 
 but a fcurvye PrcefeSy after all." 
 
 Hampden. " Cofen, excufe me, praye, if I 
 
 doe 
 
 45 
 
 Lorde Gene- 
 rally to be 
 Prafesy not 
 Princeps. 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Hampden 
 
 fpeaketh. 
 
46 
 
 Excufeth 
 hymfelfe as 
 booke man. 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 doeinterrupteyou here, Wefpake of difcipline, 
 and obedience, in our hofte. Each mann to him 
 whoe, by y® confentement of oure lawfull go- 
 uernours, fhall be deemed worthye of autho- 
 ritie. Let Us be euer firfte to giue enfample 
 in ourfelues of what we doe enjoyn to others. 
 But, in what fell fro you before, you doe con- 
 clude of me unjuftlye, Cofen; euen in your 
 loue and zeale for me. Belieue mee, I reade 
 not Plato^ nor Dauila^ nor euer did I, for in- 
 ftruftionns in Policie or War; but y^ one for a 
 warning hiftorye of euill times, in fome things 
 like to thefe ; times of euill machinationn, kinf- 
 mann, and of fadd violence, that did diftracfte, 
 and goe nighe to mine, a mightye Cornon- 
 wealthe, reftored by a mann y^ like of whom, 
 tho he had heinouffe and unpardonable faultes, 
 {Henrye of Nauarre^ 'twere well if thefe our 
 times hadd cafte upp to y^ head of our aiFayres. 
 But enough of bookes. I haue loued them; 
 and could loue them ftill; nay in my time 
 haue payd fome court among y^ playfulleft of 
 
 them 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ Sec. 47 
 
 them all; haue bafked in y^ funnfliine of this 
 once in dede my happye home, with much de- 
 lighte, euen among y^ fwete flowers of peace^ 
 full poefy ; and, tho fome are gone whoe made 
 thefe things y^ deareft to me, could doe foe 
 agayn; accounting them among y^ befl re- 
 mayning pleafures of a reafonnable mann s re- 
 pofe. But, in this rough feafonn, Cofen, when 
 y^ windes be out, and tempefts rageing rounde, 
 what has a mann to doe but caft his anchor in 
 y^ ftrong holding grounde of dutye ; and, 
 (flrikeing all his pleafant topp gear, and gaw- 
 dyefbeamers of delighte,)likey^ gallant fliippe, 
 fwing round to fronte both blafte of ftorme and 
 ftreame of tide, now pouring in upon y^ har- 
 bour of his refte and anciente righte ? Noe. I 
 buckled not on this breaftplate as a reading 
 garb for y^ ftudye. God knoweth with how fore 
 reluftancie I tooke it; but without fenfe of re- 
 proache . I beleiue I am not extreme of purpofe. 
 I yett defpaire not (hauing better hope in this 
 than thou haft, Cromwel^ to gayn furetye for y^ 
 
 free 
 
48 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 Pax qutfritur 
 Bello, 
 
 Striue to efta- 
 blidie Peace, 
 and lalling 
 treatye, by 
 fuccefle. 
 
 free cuftomes and prerogatiues which belong by 
 ftatute to y^ people of this realme. ^^ Pax quce- 
 ritur Bello!' Elfe, fure, we fighte withoute an 
 ende. I knowe this; that I doe abhorr War; 
 aboue all, ^^fummum nefas^' ciuill War. And, 
 fure, how faddlye doth it argue of y^ fallen ftate 
 of man that, throughoute y^ high Catalogue of 
 all y^ greate and worthye which Hiftorye doth 
 giue, y^ greater parte thereof hath bin furnifhed 
 to her by Warr; to Hiftorye, which is indede y^ 
 nurjfing mother of all Ciuill Knowledge, by 
 Warr, which is the mighty antagonifte and dif- 
 turber thereof. It is y^ greateft of calamityes, euen 
 when for Freedome; tho a glorious one. But, 
 fro y^ houre when noe fecuritye cann more be had 
 for Freedome, faue what may arife to y^ Parlia- 
 ment from fuccefle in Armes, and be guarded 
 theire's by power manifefte; fro that houre noe 
 retreate and noe remiflionn. Putt forwarde, then, 
 with that fierceneflTe whereby this unnaturall 
 contentionn may be fooneft made to ceafe; and 
 fome noteable fucceflTe may, thro God his blef- 
 
 finer. 
 
of a worthye difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 fing, be wroughte, as may be guarrantye for 
 lafting accomodationn. Nay more will I faye. 
 I doe beleiue there be certayne, euen of y^ ad- 
 uerfe partye, who, frendes ftil of Libertye, in 
 harte, but feared at what they falfelye deeme a 
 takeing upp of armes agaynfl: y^ Kings perform, 
 (for amongft y^ greateft miferyes of fuch a Warr 
 is euer this, that good menn may, by but a fmall 
 biafs in y^ ballance of theire dutyes, be brought 
 in mortall conflidie, each with other,) haue en- 
 tered onn y' tryall as fiercelye as we; out of 
 which, (vayne expedlationn,) they may hope 
 themmfelues to be inftrumentes for y^ winning 
 of termes from him they follow, for better 
 gouernement, according to Lawe. To Us re- 
 mayneth but to recouer, if may be, the time we 
 loft in trufting him whyle in his pride of power. 
 To y^pointe thenn. It feemeth to me, (and here 
 I doe agree with you,) muche time is ftil ill fpent 
 in y^ directing of a Warr by a cornittee fitting 
 at Wejiminjleri tho worthye menn. To guide y^ 
 motionns of a warr, there is not wifedome in a 
 
 multitude 
 
 49 
 
 Some, on y* 
 aduerfe 
 partye, of a 
 like notion n. 
 
 In y^ multi- 
 tude of coun- 
 fellours, nott 
 wifedome, as 
 
 H 
 
50 
 
 True andfaythfull Relationn 
 
 touching mat- 
 ters of Warr. 
 
 Colonell 
 
 Cromwel 
 
 Ipeaketb. 
 
 multitude of counfellours. There muft euer be 
 one hedd, not manie; and that hedd too at dif- 
 tance of not manie houres fro y^ thing maynlie 
 and moft inftantlye in hande. Here haue y^ 
 enemye a manifeft aduantage ouer Us. Thenn 
 are We not onelie caft among a diueriitie of 
 opinionns, but into dealing not unfrequentlie 
 with doubtfull and with doubted frendes; 
 whofe helpe, indede, might auayle Us much, 
 but who might, in falfe play, worke y^ utmoft 
 prejudice unto Us. It is not all now at this 
 worke, Cofen, who haue entered onn it with y^ 
 felfe fame minde ; as touching Libertie of Con- 
 fcience, and y^ beft meanes whereby to keepe it 
 fure. Some fpeake Us fayre; yet in a double 
 fenfe; whofe endes be at cleane difference with 
 our's; nay, I might fay contrarious." 
 
 Cromwel. "Ay, there thou haft it, mann; in 
 y^ verie cloute,at twelue fcore. Thou haft fhott 
 thy bolt aright; euen acrofs Tw^^^^River. No we, 
 aworde of thofe who be partlye with Us; part- 
 lye 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 51 
 
 lye agaynft. A worde, Cofen, of y^ Scott s; of 
 whom you fpake erewhile. A power they be, 
 in footh, to deale with tenderlye; and little 
 more trufteworthye thann the Kings they gaue 
 Us. 'Twere a fond hope that they will ftriue 
 to helpe Us, further thann may fitt their owne 
 particularr deiignes; the which once gained, 
 they will prefentlye abandonn, nay, not unlike, 
 oppofe Us. Witneffe their early e entertainement 
 of y^ Kings propofalls, bare twelue months agoe 
 to them, to moue that armie to his ayd which 
 firft was rayfed agaynft him in y^ Bijhopp's 
 Warr, and was at that time under treatye to 
 difbande; whereof parte fought, after, onn his 
 fide, under Lindfey^ Stewart^ and Auhigny ; 
 parte with Us, under Balfore^ and Ram/ay ; 
 at Edge Hille. A wayward forte of cattel true- 
 ly. Proud and ftiffe necked are they, whenn 
 aroufed ; refolute of adionn ; dearlye mind- 
 full of aduantage, as of wronge ; and wea- 
 ryfome of purpoie ; readye alwaye, euen in 
 theire Pride and Stiffeneffe, for fuch compliances 
 
 as 
 
 To his think- 
 ing, y* Scotts 
 a way wardc 
 cattel. 
 
5 2 True andfaythfull Relationn 
 
 as may further it; and, in the verie appetite of 
 falling onn to dinner, thoughtefull euer of 
 whereonn they fhall fuppe. 
 
 Nor are their defignes in this prefente mat- 
 ter, (noe nor euer haue bin,) of a like temper 
 or a kin to our's. Of an ouer flowing Zeale for 
 y^ freedom of theire owne Church, and of fuch 
 as be of a tender confcience therein ; not car- 
 nail minded ; but verie hierarchs in their dif- 
 relyfhe of y^ doftrine termed by them State 
 Puritann ; and curious and unrelenting to fitt 
 y^ limbes of all to y^ Procrujies bedd of their 
 owne choice and fafhionn. Tyrannic of Sur- 
 plice or Tyrannic of Synod is, to my poore 
 apprehenflonn, y^ onelie queflionn at oddes, 
 as regardeth Church Authoritie and Libertye 
 of Worfliipp, betwene themm and Formalifte or 
 flatt Arminian. 
 
 For y^ refte, trufte themm not, if but a bufhe 
 or road fide banke be betwene ye. Montr of e 
 was with Us; and Balfore. Urrie too. Where 
 be they nowe? But thefe ^'oure good Breth- 
 
 rennr 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 renn^' thou knoweft themm, yohn Hampden; 
 and, in thy comiflions with themm, haft had 
 good caufe; eiien better than I; and haft, I 
 warrante, noe verie different judgement. And, 
 before long. Young Vane^ wary and ftedfafte 
 thohe be of purpofe,f]iall knowe themm better 
 thann now he doth. And truelye that nationn 
 fhall, (if y^ Lorde but profper y^ worke on foote 
 there,) be a gaynfull helpmate to Us ; for a 
 fpace. 
 
 I babble of thefe things, and, peraduenture 
 all too freelye, to Thee. But manie thinges 
 there be, both ciuill and eccleiiafticall, that doe 
 lack uentillationn ; or, like an old rayment 
 lying too long in y^ foldes, they fhall be found 
 maruellous thredd bare and unfauourie, whenn 
 brought to ufe. Now he were but a fcurvye 
 publicifte who, hungrye after formes, would 
 bring y^ fubftance into jeopardye, and, belike, 
 euen as y^ dogge of MfopuSy in y^ ende, lofe 
 both. 
 
 And why faye I this, and wander unto mat- 
 ters 
 
 53 
 
54 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 Speaketh 
 doubtfullye of 
 Parliaments. 
 
 ters wide of that which preffeth ? I knowe 
 not. Often in verie openneffe with Thee I 
 commune, as it were with myfelfe, aloude, onn 
 fuch thoughts as oftentimes I ponder, yea with 
 much difquiett, in y^ night feafonn. What fhall 
 we doe but feek y^ Lorde in all things ? As Thou 
 haft truely phrazed it, John^ one hedd there 
 muft be, not manie. And what is Parliament 
 itfelfe, the hedd of all, what is it now, I pray 
 ye, but a forme ; which, (rayfed, by y^ arm of 
 flefhe, moft worthilye, and foe upheld,) thofe 
 who foe rayfed and doe uphold it, (according to 
 the Spiritt which is from aboue, and by generall 
 confentment of honefte and godlie menn ven- 
 turing their Hues in defence thereof,) haue 
 power, in all righteoufneffe, if for y^ Cornon- 
 wealth's aduantage, to bring into disfeafance ? 
 Yea, euen as y^ chofen of Ifrael^ ftanding in y^ 
 ftrengthe and feare of y^ Lorde^ did putt forth 
 euill menn, that they might noe more rule ouer 
 y^ fame. We be, in this, as in all things, but as 
 young Childrenn ; arrowes in y^ hande of y^ 
 
 Giant : 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 Giant; yea as y^ ftrong mann's bowe ; buxome 
 onelie toy^purpofesofy^Comonwealthe; whofe 
 feruantes in dede we be ; and none other's." 
 
 Hampden. Seruantes of y^ Comonwealthe 
 onelie; and Parliaments but a forme? Go to, 
 nowe. This is but to try my fooliflinefTe. Nay, 
 thou muft beare with me; and pardonn y^ free- 
 dome of him who louesyou, (and none knoweth 
 it better thann thou doft, Cofen Oliuer.) As I 
 haue euer confidered it, we entered not onn 
 thefe high matters as feruantes of a Corfion- 
 wealthe; but as ftriuing to walke in y^ wayes of 
 Juftice and free Truth; and, if it be granted to 
 Us, by furthering God's worke among his peo- 
 ple, to ferue, I grante ye, y^ Cornonwealthe in 
 y^ fecond degree ; but, thro God^ for his Truth, 
 lirfte; for Juftice, and Liberty's and Confcience' 
 fake. And where, I pray you, Kinfmann, where, 
 after our inwarde confcioufnefle of God's Truth, 
 which is aboue all, where cannwe foe well feeke 
 diredionn in applying it unto y^ publique fer- 
 
 uice 
 
 55 
 
 Coloncll 
 
 Hampden 
 fpcaketh. 
 
 Not feruantes 
 of a Coinon 
 wealthe; but 
 of God in his 
 worke. 
 
56 
 
 What are 
 Parliaments ? 
 
 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 uice as under y^ controul of a Parliament^ free- 
 lye chofen by y^ people to adminifter that 
 trufte? What are Parliaments? Summoned 
 they were, in theire originall, by y^ Ki?igs writt, 
 onelie that they might render y^ taillage, and 
 other impofts granted unto him, as it were a 
 free a6te of y^ Nationn, and, foe, more popularr 
 and eafie of leauie. But they did come, after 
 a time, and by manie fteppes, to be a reall fafe- 
 guarde to the Nationn, to impofe theire coun- 
 fell and controul upon him as conditionns 
 before y^ granting of y^ fame ; ftablifhing thus 
 a fyfteme of priuiledge, to hedge round other 
 publique rightes alfoe,farr dearer thann thofe of 
 moneye, fince become undoubted ; the which 
 noe power can fittlye be trufted to mayntaine, 
 faue onelie that whofe feede and produce they 
 truelie are ; euen y^ power of an affemblye 
 chofen freelye of y^ people ; withoute which 
 there is noe Lawe. 
 
 Judges make not Lawe ; nor doth y^ Lawe 
 live and breathe in them alone. For they may 
 
 be 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 
 
 be corrupte or arbitrarye. Juries make it not ; 
 norr doth it live and breathe in themm alone. 
 For they may be fwayed by praetexte of autho- 
 rities or curbed by tyrannye of office. Armies; 
 God forbidd they ever fliould be makers or in- 
 dodrinators thereof; or other than it's bounden 
 fubjeftes; or that they fhould houlde theire 
 verie being on anie other thanny^ will and voice 
 of Parliament. For, foe, fhould y^ laft ftate be 
 v^orfe than y^ firfte. A falfelye termed Demo- 
 cracie; ruled by fucceffe of one Mann's crafte 
 and boldneffe; or, more intollerable ftil, by 
 ungouerned violence of manie. Calle not thenn, 
 I befeech you. Parliament a forme. 
 
 And what is a Comonwealthe ? Refolue me. 
 It is y^ weale. You may tell me, and truelye, of 
 that Nationn whereof We are. Yett You doe, 
 herein, but poftpone y^ pinche and fhrewd 
 ftrejGTe of y^ queftionn; meanwhile trauelling 
 rounde, as y^ fchoolmen fay, in a circle. What 
 is y^ weale? Arijloteles of Stagy r a fayd, and 
 truelye, Happineffe is the Weale. But, me- 
 
 thinkes. 
 
 57 
 
 Reprehendeth 
 Mailer Crom- 
 wely in that he 
 called Parlia- 
 men tsz forme. 
 
 What is a 
 Comon- 
 wealthe ? 
 
5 8 True and faythfull Relationn 
 
 thinkes, he hardlye efcaped fro y^ circle, idem 
 per idem^ in bringing this under definitionn. 
 " An Energye of y^ minde," fayd he, " in ac- 
 cordance to Virtue ; and within fuch limitts as 
 a wife mann {hall impofe." Manie wordes; 
 and applicable to what fyfteme a mann will. 
 Some haue fayd, " The greatefl welfare of y^ 
 greateft number." Yet fuiFer mee to paufe be- 
 fore I giue this my entire confentement. The 
 greateft number will be found to be the moft at 
 odds in this. The Moralifte fhall finde this 
 greateft welfare in a Senfe of Righte. The 
 Philofopher in that of Knowledg. The Covet- 
 ous, or Ambitious, in Riches, or in Power. 
 The poore Hindes, and that Handycrafte forte, 
 (fuch as furround Us onn thefe hilles, and whom 
 God forbid I fhould call y^ bafer forte, for they 
 are y^ greater parte of my fellowe menn,) would 
 finde it in Plentye and Eafe. But, furelye, to 
 fliorten fuch difpute of termes, that maye well 
 be called y^ Cornonweale that bindeth together 
 both good and badd, wife and foolifhe, in fuch 
 
 a bond 
 
I 
 
 of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. I 59 
 
 a bond as fliall be for y^ contentment of good 
 menn, and encouragement of prudent; for y*^ 
 reftrayning of badd, and direding of foolifh 
 ones. 
 
 Such afyftemeWemufteendeauourfor. And 
 where, I repeate, fhall We better hope to finde 
 itfecuredthann in the inquefte of a free Parlia- 
 ment? But who are y^ good and prudent, to be 
 thus aduantaged, Cofen Oliuerf Are they y^ 
 major parte of thofe for whofe weale We haue 
 toyled, and are nowe in Armes ? I hope, ay 
 hartilye, y^ iffue may proue it foe. 
 
 Meanwhile, ferue a higher Mafter thann a 
 Coriion weal the, good kinfman. Nay, I belieue 
 Thou doft, in harte. Putt onny^ Armour of His 
 Truth, after much feeking. Striue to ftablifhe 
 His glorye. His Worde, His Seruice " whofe 
 feruice is perfect: freedome." If We cannot pre- 
 uail in it, let Us alwaye be ready e to die for it; 
 and in our Hues, and at our deaths, as better 
 menn in tryalls more fierye haue bin found to 
 doe before Us, kindle a torche of light for future 
 
 ages. 
 
6o 
 
 True andfaythfull Relationn 
 
 Marke this 
 well. 
 
 ages. Peace, if peace may be with Libertye; 
 But, in all euents, Libertye. Both to be, under 
 God, beft fecured, as my belief is, by free Pri- 
 uiledg and Power o{ Parliaments. The which 
 there neuer would come a time, as I trufte, when 
 You or I would not defend, euen unto bloude, 
 from aniemann who would giue it ouer toy^ do- 
 minionn of an armie, bound in oathe and dutye 
 to defend it, and being, if engaged any otherwife 
 than under it's controul, a band but of armed 
 outlawes, and it's cheife a traytoure. Thinke 
 then but of one thing no we; y^ generall fafetie, 
 which hangeth on this caufe ; and how beft to 
 enfure it, by y^ beft unionn and difcipline. 
 Purfue this with vigoure; and manfuUye. In 
 this, as I doe beleiue in all oure endes, we haue 
 bin of a like Counfell together. Noe delaye 
 of what is in hande. And this verie agreement 
 doth reminde Us that, for a while. Wee now 
 fliould parte. Houlde it not want of hofpitalitye 
 in me to fay foe onn mine own ground. In 
 better times We maye meet here agayne. I hope 
 
 we 
 
of a worthy e difcourfe^ &c. 6i 
 
 we may. But y^ time preffeth ; and y^ fetting 
 funn hath foe aduifed me. I muft vifitt y^ 
 quarters about Tetfworth and S token-churchy 
 farr hence, to-night ; and, in y^ morninge, at- 
 tende onn y^ Lorde Generall at Thame. You 
 are for y^ North. I fee our horfes comming 
 hitherwarde, and at hande." * 
 
 And foe, in dede, they parted; to meet • 
 agayne; but in another Worlde ; 
 where all menu's motiues 
 fhall be knowne. 
 
 Finis. 
 
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