207 Im7' :Jl?>g^y'' {] II \i K S P N I) E N C E CONCERNING THE PRESBYTERIAN TIIKOLOGIOIL SE^[[XVRY Of the North- West, IJKTWEEN Professor of Theology, M!i. JESSP: L. WILLIAMS, Director, VW » r ).\LMlL'rEHS iK l)Ilil!.L: UJi; V, And Others; l''oiinili'r :iii' men who would be willing to occui)y the chair in question as he has done, under such circumstances, I further stated to Mr. Williams that Henry Day, Esq., one of Dr. Kice's elders, from his church in New York, felt authorized to nominate him in the Assembly for that chair, to which he had been elected at Indianapolis, when the Seminary was first constituted, and which he had resigned on receiving a call to the Fifth Avenue church in New York, (his health not being equal to his labor of teaching, preaching and editing the J^xpositor,) and that I hoped the Assembly would be disposed to restore him to that chair, as I supposed no more suitable and advantageous se- lection coidd be made for it ; and more especially as Mr. Day was prepared, in the event of his election, to give a pledge for a largo addition to the endowment fund for that chair, from his congregation. Mr. "Williams replied that, in his opinion, the Assembly would not be disposed to elect Di*. Rice to that chair, and that it was not decided to transfer Dr. Lord to it. He said that Dr. McMaster was spoken of in the Assembly for the chair, and asked whether he Avould be more acceptable than Dr. Lord. I replied that I thought Dr. McMaster would be more acceptable, in part for the reasons stated ; but that Dr. McMaster had been nominated in opposition to Dr. Rice at Lidianapolis, when Dr. Rice was elected over him on the ground, I believe, that Dr. Rice better represented the views of those undertaking the support of the Seminary, in that they were opposed to agitating the church by the in- troduction of political questions ; — that I supposed Dr. McMaster to be a consistent, able and honest man, but still differing, as before stated, from the views of those sustain- ing the Seminary, and who had so well, under Providence, brought it to its then prosperous and promising condition. In this connection, 1 urged, to some extent, the propriety of the election of Dr. Rice, but Mr. Williams, conceding all that was claimed for what had been done up to that time by " our side," as he said, and remarking that full credit was due to us for all that had hecn done, still insisted that tliey, not having co-operated with us before, considered it due to them that they should have an opportunity to come for- ward and do their part, our part having been so well done. They considered, he said, that there was as much remaining to be done to complete the w^ork of tne Seminary as had already been done by us ; and that, to do so, they felt tliey " should have the Chair of Theology, and a good xcorking majority in the Board of Directors^ I then remarked to him that if they persisted in carrying out their plans as proposed, and in thus setting us aside in disregard of our wishes, axvdi preventing us from continuing our work, especially when we had always been desirous that they should co-operate with us in support of the sem- inary, they would of course not expect me to pay over the remaining fourth instalment of the endowment, then unpaid.. To which he replied that there would be no difficulty upon that point, as they had on their side men of wealth and ample means, by whose contributions they proposed to endow the Chair of Theology for Dr. McMaster, if elected, with the sum of $50,000, and that Dr. McMaster would not accept the chair otherwise than with the understanding that it would be endowed by his friends. Mr. Williams said he would communicate my suggestions to the Committee on Seminaries, but that he had little expectation they would be adopted by the Assembly. And he afterwards informed me that no change could be made, and that Dr. McMaster Avould receive the nomination. This is the substance of the conversation between Mr. Williams and myself, and, as near as I can give it, the lan- guage that was used ; and after the election of Dr. McMas- ter, I prepared a statement of the conference between Mr. Williams and myself, together with the action of the Assem- bly on the subject, for publication, but, with the advice of friends, finally concluded to make no publication of the matter. Feeling, as stated, that no further call would be made on me for this (fourth) instalment of my endowment ($25,000), I soon after donated to the Union Theological Seminary of Virginia, for the endowment of one of its Professorships, $30,000, not desiring to withdraw for my personal use any portion of what I had donated for the benefit of the church. It appears, however, that certain of the Faculty and Directory of the Seminary have been in ignorance of the foregoing facts, or are disposed to look no higher tlian the law in the case, expressing the opinion that I am " bound to pay this instalment." Inquiries have also been made of the Trustees upon this point. But, in view of what has been said, I now submit whether this proscription of the Directors, as well as of myself and friends, wholly upon polit- ical grounds, does not justly work a forfeiture of the whole- endowment fimd — instead of my being subjected to a calf from you, under the circumstances, for further funds. When my endowment was accepted by the General As- sembly, it is well known that a large majority of the Old School Presbyterian church were opposed, as I have before said, to the agitation in the church of political questions. My own humble views on that subject were known to agree with those opposed to such agitation, as represented by Dr. Rice. The General Assembly — as I believe is universally the case when not inconsistent with duty — in accepting such donation, elected Professors and Directors to carry forward the Institution, agreeing essentially in these views. At that time Dr. Lord was understood to be in perfect accord with them. I have always accorded to others the same liberty of opinion claimed for myself, and hava, had nothing whatever to say in the selection of Directors or agents of the Seminary, at any time, not even knowing the men, and I challenge the production of testimony to show proscription in any case while the Seminary was in the hands of its founders. The General Assembly acted then upon the principle that justice and equity, to say nothing of Christian courtesy, require that due regard should be had to- the wishes and sentiments of members of the church who- have placed in her hands the means of founding and sustain- ing important institutions in her gift. The correctness of this- principal was fully recognized by Dr. McMaster at the time? of his election, his conduct appearing in marked contrast with that of the present incumbent, for, while Dr. Lord ad- vocated before the Seminary committees of the Assemblies of 1866 and 1867 his transfer to the chair of theology. Dr. McMaster had the manliness to refuse it unless endowed by his friends ! And as my political opinions were thought of sufficient consequence to be referred to in an address by the Modera- tor (Dr. Stanton) of the Assembly at St. Louis, though not quite accurately, I may add that they have always been the same as when the endowment fund offered by me waa accepted by the General Assembly ; and as they were at that time Democratic, they have at no time since been more than Democratic, while throughout the troubles of parties during the Avar, they were uniformly for the union, as was well known during the political canvas in '64, when I was ^ 10 the candidate for the Democratic party for Congress in this district. And as there was no reason for proscription on political grounds when my donation was accejited, there can liave been no good reason for proscription on that ground at any time since. After tlie death of Mr. McMaster, and the faihire to raise the sum anticipated for tlie .endowment of tliat chair, Dr. Lord was transferred to it at the meeting of the next Assem- bly, at Cincinnati, leaving the chair of Biblical and Eccles- iastical history unoccupied during the past year. Prior to the meeting of the General Assembly at Albany, residing in New York, I was written to by friends in Chicago, iiupiiring whether, in the event of being able at the meeting of that Assembly to elect a Professor to the chair acceptable to the old friends of the Seminary, and to restore the Directors displaced to their former positions upon the Board, and to procure some satisfactory giiai'antees against similar unjust interferences in the future, I would be disposed to return to my original position in connection with the Seminary, and, of course, to pay over the fourth instalment of the endowment fund. To which I replied, if a satisfactory arrangement of that sort could be effected, I would not only willingly, but cheerfully do so ; that Dr. Rice was, as I was informed, in the enjoyment of better Iiealth than for some time previous, and I had no doubt coald be induced to accej)t the professorship of theology if re-elected to it. He was accordingly nominated for tlie vacant chair in the Assembly at Albany, when Dr. Thomas was nominated in opposition to him. And wlien it was thought at a later day by some of his friends that he (Dr. Rice) .would not be elected, they consented to withdraw his nanie and substitute for it that of Dr. Skinner, a man of acknowledged ability and learning. But Rev. jNfr. Black- burn was elected in opposition to him. Your letter, in effect, calling upon me for the payment of the fourth instalment of my endowment fund has seemed to me to make it proper to refer, as I have done, to so much of the past history of these transactions. The Board of Directors were long since apprized by the 11 Trustees of the Seminary of what occurred at St. Louis, as above related — of the statement made to me by Mr. Wil- liams, tliat I would be exonerated from the payment of this instalment, and of my unAvillinguess to pay it, accordingly. And I understand that Mr. Williams has^himself confirmed the foregoing statement at one of the meetings of the Directors. It only remains for me to add that, as the mat- iiei's in controversy remain unchanged, I cannot itndei'stand, as intimated above, why this application is made to me. I need not say that my interest in the success of so great an enterprise, labored for with so ranch interest and anxiety, remains unabated. And if, as stated to me by Mr. Truax, the Seminary is now embarassed for funds, and with no rea- sonable prospect of obtaining them — some of the few sub- scribers to the McMaster endowment refusing to pay because of the failure to raise the 150,000 proposed — in this condition of things I would reaffirm my willingness to co- operate in the support of the Seminary, and my desire to assist in placing it on a solid financial basis, if the General Assembly will provide for such a corps of Professors as the original one, and the corresponding " working majority " of Directors demanded and taken from us " by the other side," and with proper assurances of noninterference in the future. In this case I should be disposed not only to pay the $25,000, but to add besides $5,000 to the endowment of each Pro- fessorshij) — considered by the I>oard also important. Finally, I submit whether — this issue having been made by " the new friends of the Seminary" — first, in their refu- sal to co-operate with its old friends and founders ; and, second, in their turning them out and taking possession themselves — it is not jicst that tliey meet them in a spirit of Christian equality and fairness, and either accept this proposition or refund (without interest) the $75,000 paid l)y me. Respectfully yours, ay any more.'''' The Pres- byter treats this as a quotation by Mr. Williams from my representation of what I had said, without taking any ex- ception to it. This is a mistake. 3fy pul^lished statement of my remark to Mi*. Williams was, that " they would of course not expect me to pay over the remainiiig fourth in- stalment," then unpaid. The words used by Mr. Williams agree with mine in substance. If by the slight change in the words used by I\[r. Williams, suggested by the Pres- byter, my meaning might have been considered uncertain — " on two occasions, in meetings of the Directors " — it is not jyossible that I could have meant less than is indicated by the words of Mr. Williams. When involuntarily, and against my protest, superseded by the action of the Assem- bly, with the proposition that not only the means for the endowment of Dr. McMaster's chair, but also what would become necessary ^r completing the Seminary endowment, 33 would be provided, it must have been superfluous in rae to say, as rendered by the Presbyter^ " Expect no more of me than my bond !" The clause in the " report of the Trustees to the Directors in 1867," (given in the Presbyter,) showing my unwilliyigness to "pay any more," is therefore quite consistent with what every friend at St. Louis to whom I •spoke of the matter understood ; and, how Mr. Williams could have any donbt on that point, I of course do not understand. Respectfully, &c., C. H. McCORMICK. From the JVort/i- Western Presbyterian, February 6, 1869. REPLY OF MR. CYRUS H. McCORMICK TO DR. LORD, New York Jan. 16th, 1869. Rev. Willis Lord, D. D. Sir : In answer to your letter to me, dated 19th ult, post- marked the 28th, in reply to my published letter of Nov. 17th, on Seminary matters, it is of some consequence first to ascertain the state of the case, and relations of the parties to it. In my letter, I only referred to such differences between you and myself o.^ were necessary to show the inconsistency and impropriety of your occupancy of the " Cyrus H. Mc Cormick Professorship of Theology," and gave some reasons to substantiate my position. I said : " I am induced to state these matters in order that the existing relations between Dr. Lord and myself may be the better understood, sup- posing as I have, that there are few men who would be wil- ling to occupy the chair in qicestion as he has done, under such circumstances." You have replied in a letter characterized by a Presby- terian paper as one of " great length and severity.'^ You 34 have not thought proper to stop with a defense of yourself, but have labored far more to arraign me on the question of my " dishonored bond," as you are pleased to term it, and the differences between the General Assembly and myself in relation thereto — not satisfied with the discussion of that question between " the Hon. Jesse L. Williams " and my- self, betAveen whom the only differences had appeared as to the action of the Assembly of 1866, on that question. If the sequel does not show that your " great severity " is more against yourself than me, " some one (as you say) must be disappointed " again ! I shall use no more " severity " tow- ards you, however, than necessary to do justice to others. A coiionitee of tlte Directors of the North Western Theo- logical Seminary addressed a letter to me dated Oct. 16, 1868, informing me of the election of Rev. Mr. Blackburn, by the General Assembly, to the Chair of History, and signifying a wish that I should pay over the (unpaid) fourth instalment of my original endowment fund — and as yon would have it, redeem my " plighted faith ; " honor my " dishonored bond " ; restore " the money thus sacredly devoted " to the "Institution to which it legally and morally belongs," wliich, as you say, had been diverted and " bestowed on the Union Theological Seminary and the College in Lexington, both in Virginia " ! In assigning in my letter some reasons why I felt called on to notice in a public manner the demand made upon me by the committee for this 2yay'>''ient, I said that, " having- reached the point Avhere, in my judgment, further silence would be improper, and a vindication of myself becomes a duty, I offer this correspondence to the public, that the facta in the case may be understood." I am gratified that Avhile some of the political papers at Chicago have caught your spirit, the religious press, in their treatment of the subject, have shown a different spirit. In refusing to pay to the Board of Directors the fourth instalment of the endowment, which they had in 1867 been informed by the " Report of the Board of Trustees " would not be paid, I did so — not on the ground of your course and conduct, as stated, for at that time you had not succeeded 35 in getting yourself transferred to the chair of Theology, but — on the ground made known to the General Assembly at St. Louis, in 18t>6, through Mr. Jesse L. Williams, viz : the taking from the original friends of the Seminary, by the Gen- eral Assembly, the chair of Theology, in the election of Dr. MacMaster ; and giving " a working majority in the Board of Directors " to the " new friends," by the dis2:)lacement of the Directors who had co-operated with us in the work of the Seminary. And yet, you say my "only avowed rea- sons for dishonoring " my bond are my '•'• personal feelings towards yourself and an alleged conversation with the Hon. J. L. Williams" ! This is not true. As I have already shown, I " avowed" nothing of '■'■ pergonal feelings towards you " in connection with my " dishonored hond " ! In further noticing your communication, I will first con- sider the only " offenses " with which, in my letter, I charged you, and the manner in which these have been met. 1. I said, " Dr. Lord denounced the manner in which my donation had been made to the General Assembly." This, you say, occurred at the meeting of the Board of Directors in April, 1862 ; and add that " then began what at that time you felt to be practical repudiation / " and you account for my disposition to repudiate by what you term your sun- dry " real causes " of offense to me — which will be noticed in their proj^er order. Without recollecting all the particulars that occijrred at this meeting, it is sufficient that your object was to have the several instalments of the endowment fund paid by me, that you might share the benefit of those applying to the vacant chairs, or, as if so provided in the terms of my endow- ment ; while it was shown by Judge Scates, on reading the bond to the meeting, only to be payable, 825,000 to each Professor ; and whereupon, as you say, the matter was " at length arranged''"' by postponing payment of the " thircl and fourth instalments, both principal and interest, until the vacancies should be filled," After the reading of the bond by Judge Scates, came your denunciation — not, as you say, on the ground of my " assumed right, virtually, to control the endowment, for the arrangement was made 36 simply in accordance with the terms of the bond ; and the fact that the second and third instalments were afterwards paid accordingly, and subsequent to the occurrence of your list of " real offenses " towards me, as you state them, does not seem much like '■'^ practical repudiation ! ''"' Your "then only colleague " has since stated that, on hearing the bond read at that meeting of the Board, which was the first time he had heard it, he became satisfied that I was right in my construction of it, and that I intended " that the income of the $100,000 should be applied to the four Professors, and not to a less number." " But," as you say, " what has this to do with your dishonored bond ?" Nothing : but it is one reason why you should not have sought your transfer to the *' Cyrus H, McCormick Professorship of Theology." 2. I alluded to your " gross attack upon me, Avithout cau^e, and in my absence, at a meeting of the North Church." " If this were indeed so," you say, " I ought to be blamed. But it was not so. I neither uttered your name, nor had you in my thoughts on that occasion." You admit this to be a cause of offense to me if so, but deny the fact. I shall make it clear that it wa^ so. You have not denied that you used tha language alleged, nor have you stated to Avhom or what you did refer. I can not specify at what particular meeting your lengthy speech containing this threat was made, but that you did make it, and did refer to me, and could not well have referred to any one else, I am assured, was the distinct understanding of several of the most intelligent gentlemen then present, by whom, as I said, " it was heard with astonishment and disapprobation, " and who have been equally astonished at your denial. That their understanding of the reference was correct, is further confirmed by tlie statement of a minister, whom you met upon the street in Chicago soon afterwards, and to whom, in a most excited manner, for you, you re- peated the declaration, making it still stronger, saying, " if I were to make public what I knew of a certain party in that church, in three hours time it would raise a mob that would tear it to the ground." This statement led to a pi'otracted conversation in which my name was repeatedly 37 mentioned, as the person to whom reference was had in the threat made. In the same speech and in the same connection, yom alsa said, you were " a proscribed man." And when asked the next day, " By whom ? " your answer was, " By Mr. Mc- Cormick," though as you were then assured I had in no way interfered. Your fancied proscription, so far as is known, was the great matter, Avhich if disclosed, to the public, was to work such damage to that important church. From these disclosures it is evident that your threat was levelled against me, notwithstanding your denial. It is also evident that the only ground for such a threat was that yoii imagined yourself to have been proscribed. The names of the pei'sons here referred to as witnesses will be given iu. full if required. In this connection you deny having been a candidate for the pastorate of the North church, saying, " By some too partial friend my name also had been presented. It was Avithout my knowledge and to my very deep regret." This- is a most surj^rising statement. In view of the facts. You seem to have forgotten that, in the speech in which occur- red your threat against me, and Avhich was delivered imme- diately after your nomination, you did not once with draw your name. You seem to have forgotten also your subse- quent remark to one of the elders of that church that if the Rev. Mr. Stewart should leave you would like to take charge of the church, and also your statement to another elder afterward, that, if he and Mr. M and Mr. R would support you, you would accept the call, — which call had been voted by your friends at a meeting when but a part of the congregation were present. You seem to have forgotten also that when this call, thus voted, was placed In your hands by the Presbytery, in the face of a protest numerously signed, you kept it in your possession until con- vinced that you could not be supported as pastor of the church. " But what has this to do with your dishonored bond?" Nothing ; but in the opinion of many who were acquainted with these facts it is a good reason why you 38 should not occupy the " Cyrus H. McCormick Professorship of Theology." 3. In connection with the " astonishment and disappro- bation " felt at your threat above mentioned, I said that your course led ultimately to the division of the North Church, and to a number of your friends going off and or- ganizing themselves into a rival congregation — on which you comment under this head, saying, " All my conscioiut and intentional influence was uniformly and strongly tlie other way." You were then, perhaps, as in other cases, wholly unconscious of your " real " influence. From your remark in this connection — but with no legitimate connec- tion — that "there are indeed some men who insist tliat our great and good government was the cause of the rebel- lion, possibly this is your view, as well as from your failure to recollect so thrilling a scene in your imagination as the one so pathetically portrayed by you in the tearing down of the North Church in three hours' time by a mob, one is inclined to think your memory not quite reliable as to plain matters of fact, when under the "influence" of highly pitclied patriotic emotion. You certainly had your share at least of the credit due " those true Christian men and women " who, moved by such " weighty reasons," did organize said " rival church " under your open advocacy in Presbytery. " But what has this to do with your dishonored bond ? " Nothing : but it is a reason why you should not insist on payment of that bond for your support in the " Cyrus II. McCormick Professoi*ship of Theology." 4. As to your advocacy of your transfer to the Chair of Theology, in 1866 and 1867 : you virtually admit the fact as to the Assembly of ISO 7, and defend your right to do so. This you could not well deny, in view of the Avell known fact that you appeared in person before the Assembly's Committee on Seminaries, (which committee " had been placed in the hands of the Moderator,") and together with others replied to speeches made before the same com- mittee in opposition to your proposed transfer. You say you were not at the Assembly of 1866. This is true ; but the mail and telegraph supply the means of accomplishuig 39 what would otherwise be lost for want of personal pre- sence, and it was understood at St. Louis that you had re- course to one or both of these means, to effect your trans- fer to the Chair of Theology by that Assembly — having threatened to resign if not transferred, whereupon you were at once dropped ! And it is said, and of course knotcn^ if 80, that you exerted yourself to the utmost to secure Com- missioners from Presbytery (of Chicago) in favor of your transfer, going into a caucus for that purpose, and refusing to vote for any one (as Commissioner) who would not vote for the transfer. " But what had this to do with your dishonored bond ?" N'othing : But the Assembly at St. Louis regarded it as the best reason why you should not then occupy the " Cyrus H. McCormick Professorship of Theology." I must now notice your own pretended " real offenses," and add something to the list of your actual offenses. The letter of Dr. Rice, hereto subjoined, will assist in showing how " real " your " offenses " are. 1 . You say, " Some months before the war began, but when the danger of it was becoming imminent, you pro- posed to the professors to issue, in connection with yourself, a sort of manifesto or address to the South. The object was to save the Union and Slavery. To give it more weight, you wished it to go forth over our signatures. One ■of the professors was requested to prepare it and submit it for our consideration. It was an able paper, but conceived and written from a Southern standpoint. In the existing conflict, it assumed that slavery was all right, and freedom all wrong. I declined to sign it. Materially modified and toned down, it was published in the Expositor^ without a name. This was my first conscious offense." Immediately preceding this you had said : " From the -first, however, I was conscious, in my immediate surround- ings, of an atmosphere different from that to which I had been accustomed. It seemed to be not so much that of Lake Michigan as of Chesapeake Bay ; of the prosperous and free North, as of the South. There were an air, color, tone and general drift of things which made slowly but at 40 length quite definitely this impression, that the professom Avere expected to be the exponents of Southern ideas, and defenders, if necessary of Southern institutions." ElscAvhere in your Christian and conciliatory letter you said: "The purpose of making the seminary an outpost or bulwark of slavery, if any one entertained it, had ])lainly become like a forlorn hope." Should these statements, equally unfriendly to your col- leagues, to the original Directors and students of the serai- nary, and damaging to the church at large, be found to be wholly untrue, what then ? "What would your position then be before the church and all candid and impartial men ? Coidd any man, who truly loved the Old School Presbyte- rian Church and her institutions, and who was truly loyal to all her interests, permit himself to make such charges against an important Seminary, its professors and founders ? That they are not only unsustained, as they are in your let- ter, but unfounded assertions, the letter of Dr. Kice, your senior professor for two years, herewith submitted to the public, abundantly shows. It disposes completely of your " first conscious offense." His testimony can be confirmed by that of the only other surviving Professor, and by most of the Directors then in oflice. " But what has this to do with your dishonored bond ?" Nothing ; but it goes to- show your unfitness for the position you have used every means to secure, and the impropriety of your asking me to- pay $25,000 for your siqjport in that Chair. 2. Your second conscious offense is equally groundless- with the first. If you used the "strong" expressions you now state against the nomination of " the llev. Dr. Moore " for " the Chair of Theology, in the Seminary, and tlie })ulpit of the North church," I have no recollection of it. I do well recollect, however, that at a meeting of the Board of Direc- tors, Dr. Boardman, Dr. Moore and Dr. Gurley, were named for the chair. As I recollect, neither of the three gentle- men would accept. Dr. Ilalsey s})oke in the highest terms of Dr. Moore, and I was asked to write to him, which I did. Some doubts were exjiressed in the meeting as to his loy- alty, and whether he had written certain things against the- 41 North, as had been represented, but was not known. Satis- factory information was to be sought on that question, but his declinature superseded further investigation. There was no such issue made about him, however, as you repre- sent. Dr. Gurley was my friend, personally, and his call afterwards to the pastorate of the Noith church, and visit to Chicago, were brought about by my instrumentality. He was unwilling to undertake both j^reaching and teaching. . 3. Your " third conscious offense," the character of the article written by you as an editorial for the Expositor, I do not recollect. I have some recollection of the circum- stance, since your reference to it, but only as disagreeing with you as to the expediency of publishing the article as an editorial. After Dr. Rice left Chicago, I was not only the proprietor but the responsible manager (or editor) of the paper; and as you have made good your claim to hav- ing been a Radical of the first water — often the case with converts from one doctrine to another — it cannot be con- sidered very strange that an editorial written by you with- out any conference whatever with me, under all the excite- ment to which you refer, should not have been precisely what I chose to be responsible for — apart from the fact, well understood, that conservative Presbyterians generally are opposed to agitating the church with political questions. I understand, moreover, that JDr. Ilalsey has a distinct recollection that I only objected to the article as an edi- torial, in my name, saying explicitly that if you wished to publish such an article, you could do so over your own name. This you did not choose to do. 4. YoMY fourth, and " climax of offenses," as you represent it, consisted in advocating and voting for the " Spring Reso- lutions" in the General Assembly of 1861. Those Resolu- tions, you say, were " alike Patriotic and Christian ;" but you also* say: "It is marvelous to think Avhnt excitement tlu'v pro luc'd, and how vehemently tliey were opposed by grt'at an 1 uoo I men." Well, if lliey were nut only opjtosed • " by grt-at aiid goo.l nit-n." liut <)i)|)()se(l '" rt//t'.//('//^/v," it is not surprising that I ditl not approve tliem. " (ircat and good men " ari' generally '»otli jKitrio's an