CL K/js cr /U. Ao. I 2 - formal MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA The Teachers College Its Place in the Educational System By J. O. Evjeu, Ph. D. President State Normal School Mayville, North Dakota THE WINTER TERM BEGINS MONDAY, JANUARY 3, 1921 THE SPRING TERM BEGINS TUESDAY, MARCH 29 Published in March, June, September and December by the State Normal School at Mayville, N. D., and entered at -the Mayville Postoffice November 15, 1912, as second-class matter under act of August 24, 1912. The Teachers College Its Place in the Educational System By J. 0. EVJEN, Ph. D. President State Normal School, Mayville, N. Dak. A teachers college is a normal school that has attained its majority, receiving high school graduates, training them for four years in cultural and professional subjects, qualifying them to teach in the public schools, kindergarten, “grades,” or “high,” and granting them in evidence of scholarship and didactic proficiency a college degree. The designation “normal school” is verging on the obso¬ lete. As we no longer write books on “Schoolkeeping,” but on i 1 Education ” or “ Administration , 99 we may in the near future cease to discuss the “normal school” in order to hear so much the more about the “teachers college.” The name of normal school (model or pattern school) was sponsored by Austria as early as 1774. It reecived a new lease of life at the hands of France in 1795, which succeeded in getting a passport for it to other Romance languages and to the English tongue. Germany prefers now the term “Lehrer- seminar” (teachers ? seminary); Norway “laererskole” (teach¬ ers ? school); Denmark, Finland, Sweden likewise prefer the teutonized to the Romance designation. Our country, too, is gradually getting away from the French usage. France speaks consistently of its Ecoles normales primaires and superieures. America, however, differentiates between the average normal school and the “school of education” in a university. What France calls Ecole normale superieure, a department of the university at Paris, Germans and Scandinavians call a seminar in pedagogy, while we in current usage would term it a uni¬ versity school of education. Since the name of teachers col¬ lege is also increasingly asserting itself, “normal school” may soon become a technical term of the past. A change in name often implies more than what is nominal. MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 3 When the normal school assumes the name of teachers college it means that this type of school will be a professional training school for teachers in our entire public school system, giving a four years ’ college training with the emphasis on the vocation of teaching. At present there is a strong movement to convert all of our normal schools into teachers colleges. It is claimed that the specialized training in methodology and education imparted in the old-fashioned normal means to live on restricted diet rather than on the wholesome fare of a college mater, even as given to a freshman or a sophomore. CHANGES IN THE NORMAL SCHOOLS IN NORTHERN AND CENTRAL EUROPE The countries in Europe have gradually been bettering their normal schools in order to meet the demands of the rest of the public school system. Sweden, which has the best public school system in the world in so far as the grades are con¬ cerned, has built fine normal schools and equipped them most magnificently. It has fifteen state normal schools, of which nine are for men, and six for women. These schools offer four-year courses. What they have done for gymnastics and manual training constitutes a most worthy and valuable con¬ tribution to the cause of Education, not to mention their well- balanced curricula and efficient teaching technique. Denmark, which has the best uniformly evolved school system from the kindergarten to the university, has only four state normal schools (for men), but sixteen private (four for women, two for men, ten coeducational). It has raised its normal school standards very much since 1894, now requiring three years’ normal school training after one year’s practical experience in teaching. Germany, which before the war had the highest developed system of university education, was steadily improv¬ ing its normal schools and smoothing the path of their alumni to the university, which in that country, unlike ours, is a purely postgraduate institution. 4 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL NORMAL SCHOOLS IN GERMANY Before discussing the place of the teachers college in our own educational system, it may be well to dwell a little longer on the normal school situation in the country we looked to when we put the normal school on our own soil—Germany. Of the German states dealing with the normal school problem, Prussia, which is one-half of Germany in area and in population, had, in 1914, 186 state normal schools; that is, considering the proportion of population, and making also due allowance for our ‘‘schools of education,” more than twice as many normal schools as in the United States. These schools give three years of preparatory work followed by three years of normal school work proper, the equivalent of what a junior in our average college has received. In 1806, Prussia had only eleven normal schools; in 1826, twenty-eight; in 1837, forty- five; in 1906, 138; and in 1914, as stated, 186—a remarkable increase. The teachers graduating from these institutions teach in the “grades.” They are required to study a foreign lan¬ guage; this requirement alone, independent of the general re¬ quirements, indicates that it takes more to satisfy Prussia, in selecting teachers for her “grades,” than it does to satisfy our own country. Bavaria has forty normal schools, requiring a six-year course of study. Its graduates can take up postgraduate university work. Saxony has the best system of normal schools, twenty-five in number. They offer a seven-year course, the seventh year having been added in 1915. Their graduates can enter the university proper. The standard curriculum, of seven years, embraces, as compulsory subjects, religious nurture, German, Latin, French (or English), geography, history, botany, zoology, anthropology, mineralogy,, physics, chemistry, arithmetic (cov¬ ering algebra also), geometry,, psychology, philosophic pro- paedeutics, pedagogy, music, singing, writing, drawing, stenog¬ raphy, manual training, physical education. These schools average twenty instructors a piece, two-thirds of their number must have “akademische Bildung, ” from three to four years of postgraduate work, a requirement which no normal school in the United States meets. MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 5 The graduate of one of these normal schools in Saxony, Volksschullehrer as he is called when employed as teacher, has, for instance, a better training in German than the German gymnasium (college) graduate; he is also superior to the latter in general knowledge of history, but he is not prepared as is the gymnasium graduate to do research work. He takes a pride in his profession, makes it a permanent vocation. He is as educated as the B. A. from the American teachers college. Of late it has been repeatedly held forth in Germany that the normals, like the gymnasium (college), should be “preparatory institutions for scholarly thinking.” This would guard the normal school graduate against overrating the value of dog¬ matic knowledge and of sine qua non judgment. The restraint of a real scholar can only be attained by educating students to see that knowledge is seeking rather than possessing. These data indicate that even Germany, which is generally regarded as educationally aristocratic, pays more attention to the training of school teachers in the elementary school than does our own United States. Of course, it must not be for¬ gotten that Germany reckons with the fact that ninety per cent of her population is trained in her public schools. PROFESSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS The German normal school graduates are very conscious of their worth and worthiness as an estate. They have not been successful in getting large increases in salary, but they have persistently and successfully presented their demands for intel¬ lectual recognition to the government. They have become rather dictatorial, and the movement they incorporate is helped along mainly by an unwarrantable conception of their position as a separate estate. Their shibboleth is: The school is the business of pedagogues alone. They seem to ignore the sub¬ stance and aim of school, which, as a later social form, is an auxiliary to the more original forms of family and state. They build too exclusively on material knowledge and tech¬ nical ability, and are inclined to demand complete independence in their relation to parent and state. This is exemplified in the acute combat that is going on in Saxony between some public 6 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL school teachers on the one side who refuse to retain the teach¬ ing of religion in the curriculum, and, on the other side, the friends of the church, numbering theologians, jurists, philos¬ ophers and physicians, whose deeper training have taught them the dignity and worth of religion as the “root of all life,” as the eminent professor of philosophy, Rudolph Eucken, so admirably puts it. THE VALUE OF POSITIVE SCIENCES IN EDUCATION To America, where the cry is being raised that only normal school graduates should teach in the public school, including the high school, the cocksure assertiveness of the German Volks- sehullehrer ought to be a warning. Fortunately, pedagogic dogmatism, illustrated in these teachers, is, as stated, com¬ bated by the wholesome sense of eminent representatives of the positive branches of law, medicine, theology, who have received a solid professional training on top of an excellent college training, so unlike many of our short cut paths to theology, medicine or law, taken by a majority of our students. This dogmatism is further combated by representatives of these professions who have been appointed instructors in the normals and made colleagues of the teachers of the purely normal school brand. The majority of our high school teachers are “college bred .” Normal school people think that they should be “teachers col¬ lege bred,” on the basis that the teacher in a high school needs normal school training fully as much as the teacher in the grades. However, there is reason to fear that neither “college bred*' (euphemistically “university bred*’) nor “teachers college bred” will ultimately do justice to the high school. The taunt of the college bred against the average normal school graduates, that they are half-baked, may be turned against himself. For, the college graduate, compared with the university graduate, is only half educated, though he may surpass the latter as a drillmaster. The truth is: Even the university graduate is but partly educated, measured by an ideal of a one hundred per cent standard. The college graduate, trained or not trained in the method- MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 7 ologies of a normal school, may be a handy logarithm in a mathematical maze. But school life is surprisingly non- mathematical, in spite of recent omnipotent claims set forth by Mental Measurements, one of the hyperboles in our edu¬ cational system today. No doubt, Mental Measurements has a better claim to a place in our curricula than such a “Mode- wissenschaft ’ 9 as Gall’s phrenology. But, judging by the criticism of Professor Barth in his stately standard work “Erziehung und Unterrichtslehre ” (6th edition, 1918, trans¬ lated into Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Russian—but, alas, not into English), this new study offers but little that is reliable, and is an unsafe instrument in the hands of even the average college graduate. To add a little force to this parenthetical statement it might be well to refer the reader to Roloff’s “Lexikon der Padagogik, ” the standard reference work on Education in the Catholic school world, in which the article “Test,” written in 1917, presents the same conclusion. EMINENT REPRESENTATIVES OF POSITIVE SCIENCE One of the more unfortunate phases of the educational world to-day is an acute worship of theory and abstraction. I firmly believe that theoretical studies should be illumined by the positive branches of law, medicine, or theology, and that many an eminent scholar in the field of history, philosophy, psychology, education would not have attained his eminence if he had plunged into the sea of theories immediately after college graduation, without having sailed it and sounded it with the aid of the vessels that positive science had placed at his disposal. One of the foremost scholars of Exegesis last century, J. Chr. von Hofmann, had in his situdent days a desire to specialize in history. His ultimate aim was a professorship in the historical section of the “faculty of philosophy.” The professor whom he consulted, advised him to study one of the positive branches of knowledge, law, medicine or theology, which mankind, in the face of crime, disease, and religious superstition, had found to be positively necessary for its social, physical and religious welfare. Mr. Hofmann selected Theology, 8 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL and later schooled himself thoroughly in the apparatus of a historian. The result was the most brilliant scholar of biblical knowledge in the nineteenth century. Professor William Wundt, the greatest philosopher of mod¬ ern times and the founder of experimental psychology, was a graduate of Medicine, before he delved into philosophy. So was our own William James. Professor Harald Hpffding, the Danish philosopher, was a graduate of Theology. And so was Denmark's most original philosopher S0ren Kirkegaard. Pro¬ fessor Meumann, the founder of experimental pedagogy, was a graduate of Theology. So was Professor Heinze, another Ger¬ man philosopher. Leopold Ranke, the ablest historian of last century, studied Theology. Theodor Mommsen, the great¬ est authority on Roman history, was a graduate of Law. Uni¬ versity presidents like Harper of Chicago and Burton of Ann Arbor and Scott of Northwestern graduated from Theology. Perhaps the greatest tributes paid to the science of Theology in recent times were those given to the church his¬ torians Albert Hauck and Adolf Harnack. At the beginning of the present century, the university of Berlin offered Profes¬ sor Hauck, of Leipzig, the chair of Ranke, which would have meant for Hauck a transfer from the faculty of theology to that of philosophy. Professor Hauck, w T ell aw^are that no other jjrofessor of history had done as much for the secular history of medieval Germany as he had in his standard church history of five volumes, declined the offer. This offer from a university like that of Berlin to a representative of theological scholarship is a thing quite incomprehensible to our average American state university faculty, which will investigate all kinds of phenom¬ ena save religious. But this distinction was not without a precedent. When the Prussian Academy of Science wanted its history written for the celebration of its two hundredth anniversary, in 1900, its members chose the eminent church historian Professor Harnack to write it. He got a year’s leave of absence and wrote a brilliant history of it in three volumes. Both Hauck and Harnack were recipients of the Verdun prize. MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 9 PART TIME TEACHING BY JURISTS, PHYSICIANS, THEOLOGIANS It is surprising how large a number of men schooled in law, medicine, and especially in theology, are teachers in the public schools of Germany and Scandinavia, and even in Finland. In Finland a theologian is at the head of every normal school— and Finland ? s normal schools are celebrated. What a good thing to have a little balance in the faculty, a little variety in its make-up. And, incidentally, under certain conditions, what a saving. Our present shortage of teachers could partly be overcome by employing graduates of a positive science as part time teachers. Surely, there are college trained lawyers, physicians and ministers who could do a little teaching in our schools without inconvenience to their practice and profession. However, one of the troubles with this is that a college trained physician or jurist does not feel the need of “pin money ,” and the ministerial rank has too few representatives that combine a good college education with a good, scholarly theological training. But the greatest trouble is the limitation of the school administrator, who, generally, quite ignorant of the specifically educational value of the professions of law, medicine and theol¬ ogy, would feel his own profession slighted, if he were to break the bread of school life with the lawyer or minister or physician in any other capacity than that of sitting with him as a member of a school board. I congratulate the State Nor¬ mal School at ValL?y City on having on its faculty a member of the clergy who teaches French at the normal school, yet takes care of his parish in the city. The salvation of the graded and especially the high school in our country depends on getting a greater variety of training represented on its faculty, and not on retaining a traditional uniformity, certainly not a uniformity of mediocrity. Rules, regulations, 'good traditions are necessary in school work. That is a truism. But two factors, the over-exacting time-element, applied to the pupils, and the mechanical canons for selecting teachers, have sometimes wrought havoc in public school edu¬ cation. We are at present concerned with the training and selection of teachers, which, however, also may affect the time 10 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL element. The poor teacher is the very teacher who makes the pupil “do time.” LARGER OPPORTUNITIES FOR NORMAL SCHOOLS Notwithstanding, our normal schools cannot cease to func¬ tion except at a great loss to public instruction. However, they must be given larger opportunities in order to live, and not merely to exist. The high school is gradually supplanting the high school courses of the older normal school; and if the high schools will go on developing junior colleges, a great many normals will have to perish unless they become teachers col¬ leges, giving a four years 7 course leading to a degree. This naturally need not, and for years to come, should not, affect the two-year course beyond high school graduation. The reten¬ tion of one or two-year courses is a matter of expediency; and though one normal school president writes that the one or two-year course does not lead definitely anywhere unless it is to a “blind alley, 77 we are not ready in North Dakota to drop the two-year course, perhaps not even any of the other courses, though many of us feel we should add two years of work to what we have. The contention of the normal schools to-day is that if normal school training is needful for teachers in the grades, why not for teachers in the high schools; or, to state it very modestly, why should not the normal school be put at least on a par with the independent college, so that it can give a four years 7 college course, with emphasis on teacher training. This would not signify normal school monopoly, but plain parity. There are many independent colleges which are granting acceptable B. A. degrees, and yet do not measure up to older normal schools in Minnesota or North Dakota, either in personnel or equipment. DATA ON FOUR-YEAR COURSES AND GRANTING OF DEGREES In order to find out what the presidents of our state normal schools are thinking about the future of our normal school system, I wrote a letter to 155 normal school presidents, asking MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 11 for a personal statement of theirs in regard to giving a four- year college course, with emphasis, as heretofore, on teacher training. Since writing, four weeks ago, I have been receiving replies to these letters every day. I have thus far received letters from eighty presidents, more than one hundred new catalogues, many pamphlets, also mimeographed papers recently presented by normal school committees advocating the four- year college course in the normal, or the teachers training college. On basis of this material, I find that 62 of our normals are already giving four-year collegiate courses and B. A. or B. S. degrees. More than 55 are working hard to get the consent of their legislature to become teachers training colleges. To this group belong 8 normals in California, 9 in Massachusetts, 5 in Minnesota, 11 in New York, 13 in Pennsylvania, 9 in Wis¬ consin. Eight others are hoping for the four-year course. This means that about 75 per cent of the state normal schools in our country likely will be teachers training colleges before our next national election. The replies that I have received from the various normal school heads are uniformly affirmative. Three presidents as¬ sume a neutral attitude, and only seven are averse to making the normal a teachers college. Six of the seven are in the South. Most of the affirmative replies are emphatic in asserting the need of a four-year course above high school graduation. The writers plainly show that the stand they take is based on experience and conviction, and not on any presidential vanity of heading a college. The letters answer a question that has been burning for a long time in the souls of the writers. I am supplementing this paper by publishing extracts from them (pp. 24 seq.). Suffice it, at this juncture, to call attention to only a few. THE FORWARD NORMAL SCHOOL MOVEMENT IN CALIFORNIA President Hardy, of the State Normal School at San Diego, sent me a letter and a copy of a report prepared to cover the 12 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL normal' school situation in California. In this letter he says that the California State Board of Education and all of the educational organizations of the state have endorsed a program of legislation which will be presented to the state legislature in January, 1921. The program asks that all the normals in California be designated teachers colleges; that the legislature be empowered to hear the application of any normal school in the 'state for a degree-granting status, and to authorize that status, should the standards of equipment and personnel of the normal school in question warrant it. The report emphasizes the fact that the normal school offers too little opportunity for development, and too much occupa¬ tional drill and grind; that its curricula, are overcrowded; that it stands up for continued pupilage in school and leaves too little margin for students’ activities; that culture is being crowded out in favor of highly specialized dress-sections of public school technique “ until we have the absurd spectacle of a solemn-faced program of making out (3f an inexperienced young woman, fresh from the factory-like processes of the modern large high school, a specialist in drawing, in music, in manual training, in physical education, in agriculture, in rural school teaching, in city school teaching, in tests and measure¬ ments, etc., etc.—all in the period of seventy-two to seventy- eight weeks.” The report properly avers that the normal school would be making a sad mistake, if it should attempt to become a college in the ordinary sense of the term. It must remain professional, a “trade school,” but should be one with a cultural or collegiate basis. It should give a four-year course. The State should prescribe the minimum essentials of a sound teacher-training course in the subject of pedagogy and sociology, while the school should formulate the rest of the program. The School of Education in the University of Cali¬ fornia is assigned the task of taking up the advanced work in education and leaving the collegiate phase of teacher-training to the normal schools. THE MASSACHUSETTS PLAN The state of Massachusetts, likewise, which has been a pioneer in so much that pertains to education, is working for MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 13 the teachers college. Principal Wm. B. Aspinwall, of Worcester, who the past winter was appointed chairman of a committee of the principals of the normal schools of his state to investi¬ gate the normal school situation, wrote me that he is heartily in favor of the four-year course. He sent me a copy of a report, which had been indorsed by the School Superintendents of Massachusetts and by the Schoolmasters Club. This report advances twelve very good reasons for the four-year course. I shall give two of them: ‘ ‘ The present two-year normal school course is entirely inadequate to prepare students properly in both scholarship and technique for the comprehensive demands upon the grade teachers of to-day. Forty years ago a two-year course of train¬ ing was sufficient; for, then (a) we had a better quality of students; (b) they were required to know fewer subjects; the standard of scholarship was not as high as now. But it is not sufficient for this training to-day, because the opposite condi¬ tions confront the normal schools, viz., (a) the quality of stu¬ dents has greatly deteriorated; (b) a much larger number of subjects is required; (c) far more scholarship is demanded. This is true of medicine, law, engineering and other occupations. It is not strange, therefore, that it should be true also of teaching.As an indication of some of the work that has been added in the last fifteen or twenty years to the program of the grade teacher, one might mention agriculture, nature- study, citizenship, Americanization, English to foreigners, manual training, art, music, hygiene, thrift, work with sub¬ normal pupils, etc. “The normal school does not have the same dignity and standing that the college enjoys. Consequently the high schools urge their students to choose college rather than normal school. If the normal school compared favorably with the college in length of course, and in conferring a degree, it is clear that the attitude of the high school teachers would change more in favor of the normal school, and many students would seek the four years of education that would be offered by the normal school who are either prepared to go to college or in many instances are deprived of either opportunity . 11 The report recommends that the two-year course be abolished from normal schools in Massachusetts after the year 1920-1921; 14 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL that all students entering the 1 normal schools September, 1921, be required to take a three-year course; that (to test the efficacy of the proposition) in 1924 one or more normal schools be selected to give a four-year course and the degree B. S. in Education; that students who have graduated from a three-year course in any of the Massachusetts normal schools be privileged to take the fourth year in a school giving a four-year course, receiving full credit for their three-year work already com¬ pleted and being entitled to earn the college degree by com¬ pleting the work of the fourth year in that institution. As a comment upon this it may be said that the New Eng¬ land states* are so well supplied with colleges that the change of all the normal schools of Massachusetts into teachers col¬ leges at once would seem too abrupt. Hence the gradual change by making one or two schools teachers colleges, and by asking for three-year courses in the others. Conditions are different in the West. Here the need of the four-year course in normals is felt much more. Here, too, the three-year course, as a president of a Wisconsin normal writes, would not be much more than a course on paper as: long as the two-year course should be retained. The situation in our territory, it would seem, requires a four-year course, but also the retention of the two-year course, and, in some normals, even the retention of some of the so-called high school work. * Since the recent meeting of the N. D. E. A. at Grand Forks, where this paper was read, an editorial has appeared in the “Journal of Edu¬ cation” entitled “Brave Little Rhody.” It congratulates the state normal school of Rhode Island on having the courage to expand to a college of education and give the degree of Bachelor of Education. It says, ‘ ‘This is the most heroic act we have ever known educationally. It would signify nothing in the West, but in New England it is nothing short of revolutionary.There are twenty-five other state normal schools in New England that are wondering, more or less timidly, whether the strangle hold will be loosened in their case. Be that as it may. Rhode Island has done as heroic an act as we have known in these six states, and for this she deserves a medal of high honor.” The Journal explains: “The graduates of the College of Education receive the degree of Bachelor of Education. Those who stay in the College of Education but two years receive a certificate which is equiva¬ lent to thet diploma of the past and they can return and complete the other two years and receive their degree by taking extension courses which are numerous and valuable for teachers in service. On Tuesday and Thursday from 4: 30 p. m. onward and on Saturday all the fore¬ noon are various courses all of which will count on a certificate or on the degree of Bachelor of Education.” MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 15 A WORD FROM MICHIGAN Very excellent arguments for the teachers college are given in a recent letter from President Charles McKenny of the Michigan State Normal College, Ypsilanti, Michigan. He writes: “I believe the normal schools should just as rapidly as possible extend their courses to four years and grant degrees. Some of my arguments are the following: “1. To get a better type of faculty members. The upper grades of college work stimulate teachers and relieve them of the monotony of elementary teaching. 11 2. It keeps on the campus mature students who help leaven the student body. They are a stabilizing and stimulating element in college life. “3. Future superintendents need to live in the atmosphere of elementary education. This the normal school furnishes. “4. A very large number of students who want to do high school work are unable to pay for a university education. Then normal schools offer college training at minimum expense. “5. It is not a good thing for the universities to have the full sweep of college education. They should not train all of our high school teachers. Competition is the life of business. Any institution which has the monopoly of any particular field of work grows heavy. The university is no exception. ‘ 1 While of course the great bulk of our work is confined to the freshman and sophomore years, it does us good to have fifty to one hundred advanced students. The time is coming when we will graduate fifty to one hundred with the bachelor’s degree. It is worth working for.” f DATA FROM OTHER STATES The normal school people of Minnesota, wishing to follow Michigan, endeavored some years ago to get authority from the legislature to grant a college degree. But they were un¬ successful, more or less because of the opposition of the state university and the denominational colleges of the state. They are repeating the endeavor this year and will probably be successful. 16 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL Kansas has excellent normal schools. They have a large at¬ tendance, give the degree, and demonstrate how necessary the four-year course is. Letters from Presidents Butcher and Brandenburg testify to this. Missouri has converted all of its normal schools into teachers colleges. Pennsylvania expects to have the four-year course in its normal schools as soon as the legislature permits this step. The heads of the normal schools in this state seem to be of one accord in favoring the four-year course. But Pennsylvania, like Massachusetts having many colleges, may make the change gradually, adding a third year before the full four-year course is inaugurated. This does not mean, however, that the two-year course will be dropped. The new superintendent of public in¬ struction and the Governor are strongly in favor of this new forward movement. The Wisconsin normal schools, less the children of tradition than those in the East, are making, through their presidents, a strong effort to secure four-year courses and the granting of a degree, at an early date. The state of New York is following the plan of Massa¬ chusetts. NORMAL SCHOOLS SHOULD BECOME TEACHERS COLLEGES A perusal ,of the catalogues of our more than 160 state normal schools and of the letters I have received, in the light of educational demand and supply, quantitatively and quali¬ tatively, leads to conclusions like the following: Our state normal schools should, wherever it is possible and practicable, cease to vie with high schools. They should not solicit student material from the eighth grade or encourage high school students to make a break in their high school work in order to take up studies at the normal school, unless the remoteness of the nearest high school or some undesirable con¬ dition in the home school justifies such a change. Our state normal schools should, as soon as conditions per¬ mit, give a four-year course and a degree, without doing away with the two-year course, or even with high school work where MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 17 the retention of this is absolutely necessary, for some years. Such an arrangement would not create disharmony. There are many schools in the United States that offer a four-year high school course, a four-year college course, and a three-year theo¬ logical course—all under the same roof. Anyone intimately acquainted with the working of such a school would find no difficulty in coordinating a four-year course of collegiate stamp with the other courses already given in our normal schools. Of course, the normal school would not and should not become an “allround” college. Which courses it should give would be determined by the composition of the faculty. One normal school may be strong in natural sciences. It would seem that the three courses offered in the Norwegian gymnasium could be profitably followed: the natural-scientific course, the lan¬ guage-history course, the classic course, with adaptations to preserve the teacher training aim. And yet, it would do no harm, on the contrary prove beneficial, to have some students preparing for law, medicine, etc., without obligation on their part to study methodologies and reviews. A WEAKNESS IN HIGHEB EDUCATION The trouble with many of our colleges to-day is this: They have aspired to be universities, they have copied the English system, making the college the zenith institution of education. And yet, the copying has been so imperfect that the average American B. A. lacks three years of being equal to an Oxford B. A. For some inexplicable reason our colleges have built a German postgraduate department on top of the collegiate, and called the entire confusion a “university.” It is amusing to see the freshly graduated product of the college department of a “university” parade as a “university graduate,” while he, at most, is not more than the equal of a German “primaner. ” As secretary of the American Students’ Association at Leipzig, 1902-1903, I heard discussed at one meeting the German gym¬ nasium as compared with the American college. More than sixty college graduates from! different American colleges and universities were present. The German gymnasium was given the majority vote of being better than our college, a surprise 18 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL to those who had read in books that the German gymnasium, and, with that, the Norwegian, the Swedish, the Danish, and the Finnish are only about as goood as our high school. The salvation of the American college will depend on its becoming a college proper, and of the American university on being turned into a university proper, as on the continent of Europe. Among the colleges proper, normal schools should hold an important place. They should be teachers colleges, at least be accorded the recognition given to independent, denominational colleges. Our schools of education in the universities should do strictly postgraduate work in Education, where they are capable of doing it. The conversion of the normal school into a teachers college would naturally be combated by schools of education, which might go so far as to preach the dictum of the Iowa Survey Commission, which advised that normal schools give up all non-professional courses, abolish all but vocational courses. However, this advice is sponsored by a host of independent colleges, in which Iowa abounds, rather than by a strong university. Better advice is given by Professor Ernest C. Moore, form¬ erly president of the state normal school at Los Angeles, now director of the southern branch of the University of California: “Our own conviction is that the normal school is a disappear¬ ing member of the educational organization,.. .that the normal schools must be converted into teachers colleges or become parts of the universities already in existence . 99 The latter recommendation is also that of the Carnegie Sur¬ vey of the normal schools of Missoufi. This survey contends that the normal schools should remain where they are, but become integral departments of the state university system. COLLEGE SUBJECTS IN NORMAL SCHOOLS Some normal schools have tried the experiment of elim¬ inating college subjects. It has had the effect of an amputation of sound limbs. Very appropriately says the book “Self Sur¬ veys by Teachers Training Schools , 99 by Allen and Pearse: “It MAYYILLE, NORTH DAKOTA i9 has not been proved that eliminating college courses—i. e. col¬ lege students—from normal schools will do as much to raise the standard of instruction in the normal and other public schools as will the retention of college courses and of students planning to take a four-year course.” It wisely continues: “No dangers have ever yet been pointed out in the college courses as found in normal schools which are not attributable to administrative breakdown and which cannot be corrected by administrative steps. The president is there; the buildings are there; there are regents and a state department of instruc¬ tion; there is no justification for giving up the advantages that would flow from college work available in several different parts of the state until after thorough effort has been made to separate abuse from use, and to correct abuse. ’ ’ This trend of thought receives support in the Carnegie Sur¬ vey of normal schools in Missouri. Says this most fascinating survey: “Longer to maintain the distinction between the uni¬ versity and the normal school as representing a distinguishable difference in grade or quality of instruction is, in the cases of best normal schools in this country, purely factitious; and its eradication would be the best possible reason for requiring of inferior schools a genuine enforcement of standards to which most of them now profess their adherence. In the numerous American normal schools now doing thoroughly standard work the instructors have as broad and as intensive training as those giving instruction to students of equal advancement in good colleges and universities, and are quite frequently superior in this respect.The teaching of the first class normal schools is probably in advance of that to be found in the ordinary arts colleges or even in the better medical and law schools . 11 EXPENSES Will the conversion of the normal school into a teachers college increase the expenses? It is safe to say that in most normal schools there would not be any need of additional teach¬ ers to do the extra work required for the extended course, though in some of the schools the present number of teachers is not large enough to carry even the courses already allotted 20 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL them. This holds true especially of schools that are offering five years of work, three of which cover a high school course. But if they get the number and quality of teachers they are entitled to, even without a thought of extended curriculum, there would not be any additional expense to speak of, if at all, to make the normal school a teachers college. The slow elimination of ninth and tenth or eleventh grade work would mean a correspondingly gradual increase in the teaching forces in the college work, though this factor would at the outset be rather negligible in the budget of the school. However, just as there are those who prefer to teach in a normal school at much smaller salary than in a high school, so there are those who prefer to go to a teachers college at a smaller salary than to remain in the normal school, which is doomed to move only as fast as its straitjacket will permit. Many an instructor of ability would be glad to teach in a teachers college, on account of better opportunities for study and research, on account of social or professional prestige, and on account of a larger sphere of influence. FUTURE RIVALS The fact that it is seriously proposed by some that every county establishes a junior college, shows what normal schools may expect in the future, if they do not sense their oppor¬ tunities and responsibilities. They will be reduced to state high schools, and, probably, lacking the support of such a com¬ munity spirit, as a high school has and deservingly has, will finally perish. MONOPOLY IMPOSSIBLE Hence: the normal school must become a teachers college. But it must not and can not monopolize the training of teach¬ ers; for, there is, and always will be, something incommen¬ surable in teacher training that even a college laying no claim to assets in professional subjects may possess and with which it may possibly excel. In the very nature of things, the teachers college cannot be a monopoly for any length of time. The recognition given the Departments of Education at the MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 21 University of Chicago or at Columbia University, judging by the extensive pilgrimages they enjoy, of teachers young and of teachers old, who flock to them to get the first or ultimate touch of scientific pedagogy, is a symptom of educational juvenility or senility. One need not be a worshipper of the educational standards of the old world; but if he is not a chauvinist, he will ask, Why are universities of the old world so chary in giving recognition to “ wissenschaf tliche Padago- gik”? In the universities of Germany and Austria there were in 1917 only five “professors ordinarii” in Education: Rein in Jena; Foerster and Gottler in Munich, the former in the philo¬ sophic faculty, the latter in the theological; Toischer in Prague; and Ziehen in Frankfurt a. M. Even the large uni¬ versity of Berlin had only an associate professorship in edu¬ cation. Sometime the philosopher Fr. Paulson lectured in pedagogy. Halle has an honorary professor in this field, Tuebingen has a 11 privat docent. ’ ’ A regular professor in philosophy teaches, as a “side line,” pedagogy in the universi¬ ties of Bonn, Giessen, Halle, Leipzig, Marburg, Braunsberg, Freiburg i B., Vienna, Wurzburg, Strassburg. A regular pro¬ fessor of classical philology gives lectures on pedagogy in Er¬ langen, Heidelberg, Munich, Munster. The annual publication “Minerva” says nothing about any lectures on pedagogy or education for 1913-14 in the universities of Breslau, Gottingen, Greifswald, Kiel, Konigsberg, Rostock, though their catalogues announced lectures on a number of educational themes by pro¬ fessors of philosophy and theology. Of course, a number of valuable courses on pedagogic themes are also given in the departments of medicine, law, and economics. This must not be underestimated. The fact remains, however, that the uni¬ versities on the continent of Europe, on the whole, have resisted the establishing of professorships of pedagogy, which they do not regard as a “ vollgueltige Wissenschaf t. ” This attitude has' led to the foundation of independent schools of education, like the “ Zentralinstitut fur Erziehung und Unterricht” in Berlin, founded in 1915, or like the department of the university forma¬ tion “ Allgemeines Vorlesungswesen ” at H amburg, headed by Meumann, and later by Stern. If the continental universities withhold the acknowledgment of pedagogy as a “ vollgueltige Wissenschaft, ” the tendency in 22 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL various circles in America is to regard it as the only “voll- gueltige Wissenschaft. ’ ’ This is unfortunate, because of the reaction that is bound to follow. PARITY ASKED FOR In stressing the value of the teachers college, it is, there¬ fore, well to be cautious. We do not expect too much of it either as a college or as a postgraduate department. But we ask, for the college stage of it, that it be put on a par with the independent college; that its graduates be not barred from positions in public schools open to graduates of denominational colleges. Our people need the latter institutions, and they in return need the conlidence and good will of the state. But it is not fair to discriminate by legislation in their favor, at the expense of the institutions which the state calls its own. Therefore, the normal school does not request that it be made a primus inter pares among the collegiate schools of a state, but it pleads for parity on a collegiate basis. THE RELIGIOUS AND DEMOCRATIC SPIRIT Before finishing, I wish finally to call attention to two things which make the denominational colleges seem stronger than the average state schools. It is the attitude of the former toward religion and democracy, friendly in both cases. It cannot indeed be denied that many of our state institutions, especially universities, do little to suppress aristocratic tenden¬ cies and much to suppress religious thought under the cloak of neutrality; though privately owned institutions like Harvard, Yale, the University of Chicago are not working under any restraint. Now the state normal schools in most states profess in theih catalogues that they foster Christian ideals and appre¬ ciate Chr'itian nurture, a trait from the days when the majority of normal schools were owned privately. From personal ex¬ perience I can say that the Christian spirit in a few normal schools I know, is more in evidence than in some church-owned schools. It is indeed encouraging that the State Manual Train¬ ing School at Pittsburg, Kansas, has for the last ten years carried a Bible course of study, one hour a week, and has given credit for it; and that it in the past three years has given MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 23 courses in Christian Evidence, New Testament, Old Testament, Social Teachings of Jesus and Ethics of Jesus. This trait alone makes the teachers college more desirable than a state college of the type where information on Homer, Plato, Moses, Mo¬ hammed is required, but where information about Jesus or Paul is taboo, as if they never contributed anything to history. As to democracy, the fact that the normal school is not a school of social prestige, but is the struggling teachers school—is significant. Add to this its close contact with the children in the grades, its reserved attitude toward aristocratic fraternities, its discouragement of class rivalries—and the preservation of the democratic spirit is self-evident. President Frank H. H. Roberts, of the New Mexico Normal University, has well said, 11 The state institutions cannot duplicate the religious and democratic spirit as the normal schools can.” THE TEACHERS COLLEGE A RESPONSE TO THE NEEDS OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AS TO THE NEEDS OF THE GRADES The normal school attained to its majority, or the teachers college, is through its graduates morally entitled to create the same kind of spirit in the high schools and should be legally entitled to respond to the demands of high schools for normal school graduates as teachers. For, as President E. L. Hendricks of the Central State Teachers College at Warrensburg stated in an address before the Normal School presidents at Atlantic City, February, 1918, the high school is known as the weakest section of our entire system of education. “Why is it true that if we begin with the kindergarten and the graduate school of the university our converging lines of least effectiveness will meet in the high school ? i9 His answer is: the lack of professional training. This training can be had in the teachers college, not ex¬ clusively, but to such a degree, both socially and educationally, that there should be no hesitancy Ln making the normal schools teachers colleges, thus giving them their proper, and by in¬ heritance rightful, place in our educational system, so they may serve the high schools as they have served and shall serve the grades. 24 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL Extracts from Letters of Normal School Presidents Favoring a Four Year Course above High School Graduation in Normal Schools (The letters were received by Dr. Evjen as replies to an inquiry made by him October 14, 1920.) - 0 - ALABAMA, JACKSONVILLE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President C. W. Daugette writes: “I am convinced that the normal school should go four years beyond the high school work and give degrees. It requires this to make young people have the respect for the profession of teaching that is employed by medicine, law, dentistry, and other professions. They must have the respect for the profession, before they will be willing to spend money to prepare themselves to enter it.” CALIFORNIA, SAN JOSE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President W. W. Kemp: ‘‘I find myself an advocate of collegiate status for normal schools, with the power to confer an appropriate baccalaureate degree. Normal school presidents of California are pre¬ paring legislation to make possiblei collegiate status for all their insti¬ tutions. though with the proviso that the State Board of Education shall set up minimum standards which must be met by any institution, before it can acquire collegiate status. If such legislation is passed, I am sure the Fresno school and ours may early seek to become college normals.’ ’ COLORADO, GREELY STATE TEACHERS COLLEGE President J. G. Crabbe: “This institution has been on the four and five-year course basis for thirteen or fourteen years and gives the A. B. and A. M. Every worth-while normal school in the country ought to look forward to the four-year course at the earliest practicable date.” CONNECTICUT, DANBURY STATE NORMAL SCHOOL Principal J. R. Perkins: ‘‘It is the business of the state to prepare all teachers needed in the public school system. In order to prepare high school teachers a four-year course is needed in the' normal schools. I see no reason why they should not also give a degree after four years of work.” MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 25 CONNECTICUT, WILLIMANTIC STATE NORMAL-TRAINING SCHOOL Principal George H. Shafer: “I believe that two years’ work beyond the high school is not adequate for the kind of training that public school teachers ought to have, so that it is my opinion that our school curriculum should be lengthened in time to four years, and an appropriate degree given, possibly the degree of Bachelor of Pedagogy. “I am entirely out of sympathy with the four-year college course which emphasizes everything else under the sun but the training of teachers. It is not numbers that we want. Teaching should be re¬ garded as a profession in the same way that medicine is regarded as a profession, and the science upon which it is based is so extensive that four years is 1 none too long, but medical schools apply themselves to the training of physicians. They do not attempt to give a Liberal Arts course nor should the normal school attempt to do this thing.” IOWA. CEDAR FALLS IOWA STATE TEACHERS COLLEGE President H. H. Seerley: “The only successful end for the old standard normal school is that of the four-year standard. It is no use to fight against decisions made by civilization. The only institution recognized in several states is one with college standards of entrance length of course, and ideals.” ILLINOIS, CARBONDALE STATE NORMAL UNIVERSITY, SOUTHERN ILL. President H. W. Shryock: “If you will examine page 32 [of catalogue] you will see that we are offering senior college work. We had just begun to develop this phase of normal school training when the war struck us.We are planning to ask the legislature for more than $40,000 additional equipment for our laboratories, and for not fewer than six additional members of the faculty, in order that we may develop our senior college work. If we are to train high school teachers we must offer four years of work beyond high school.” ILLINOIS, CHARLESTON EASTERN ILLINOIS STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Livingston C. Lord: “I have been opposed until recently to the normal schools giving four years beyond the high school, but we are doing this now, and so are all the normal schools in this state, with the emphasis, of course, on teacher training. ILLINOIS, MACOMB WESTERN ILLINOIS STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President W. P. Morgan: ‘‘I feel quite sure it is the business of the normal schools in Illinois, at least, and I think elsewhere, to pre¬ pare teachers for the common schools, of whatever type they may be. This will include both elementary and high schools, of course. I am not at aR sure in my own mind that teachers who teach in high schools should Have a longer course of training than those who teach in the grades. A four-year course is preferable for either. We have three curriculums leading to the bachelor’s degree.” 26 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL ILLINOIS, NORMAL ILLINOIS STATE NORMAL UNIVERSITY President David Felmley: “Thirteen years ago we obtained from the state legislature authority to grant degrees in Education. Since that date we have granted about one hundred twenty degrees to students who have completed a full four-year course beyond the high school. We call the curriculum that they complete the Teachers’ College Curriculum. . . .It is my opinion that the normal schools should he regarded every¬ where as the state’s chief agencies for the training of teachers; that they should determine the standards and ideals of teaching; and that they should undertake to prepare every sort of teacher needed in the public schools from the kindergarten to the high school.’’ INDIANA, TERRE HAUTE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Wm. W. Parsons: “On the question of a four-year normal course, I stand unequivocally for such a course of study. I be¬ lieve that every state normal in the country should offer its students the opportunity to pursue such a course in a strictly pedagogical at¬ mosphere.” KANSAS, EMPORIA KANSAS STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Thos. W. Butcher: “The four-year course was established in this school approximately fifteen years ago. During the years since the course was inaugurated, it has demonstrated its necessity over and over again, and in very many ways. First of all, there is no institution, outside of a normal school, anywhere in the country, which prepares superintendents especially for village and small schools. High school teachers can be prepared and are prepared in the colleges and universities, but the graduates of colleges and universities are, almost without exception, young people who have not interrupted their school courses since they began in the first grade. In other words, the' have marched straight through the school course and have graduated young in years, and younger still in experience. In the normal schools quite the contrary is true. Nearly every member of our graduating classes, through the years, has had teaching experience. The superin tendent of a small school must know the high school and he must know, the primary and intermediate grades. If he cannot supervise his high school teachers, he fails. If he cannot supervise his primary teachers, he fails. Normal schools, offering training for all grades of teaching from the primary to the high school inclusive, prepare city supernitendents for small systems in which it is impossible to employ a special supervisor. “I would be willing to rest the case of our normal schools in this state upon the above statement of facts. However, there are additional reasons for the degree granting normal school. Young people of vision do not care to enter a school that does not go beyond two years. They want a real Alma Mater. They want to be in a school with a complete course of training. In a degree granting normal school, you will find just as capable and as ambitious students as in the best colleges and universities. Many of these students do not reach the goal of their ambitions, and drop out to become teachers in the grade schools. Their training, whatever they have had, fits them for these positions. Whereas, students who drop out of the university before completing the course are fitted for the most part for no specific work. Then, too, the atmosphere of a teacher training institution is conducive to the development of interest and pride in the teaching profession. Students in. the Department of Education in the University do not have generally the same social rating given students in law. medicine, engineering, and other departments.” MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 27 KANSAS, PITTSBURG STATE MANUAL TRAINING SCHOOL President W. A. Brandenburg: “In regard to the subject ‘Should the normal school do two years or four years work above the four-year high school’ there is but one sensible answer. x “The normal schools of this country should become real teachers colleges and therefore should do fouh years of real college work above the four-year high school. This course should be so arranged that teachers can be certified from time to time during the four years while they are continuing the work of completing their four-year course. This should be done for two reasons: It is a good thing for one taking a four-year course to get some actual teaching while they are taking this course. Second, many of our young people, end especially those enter¬ ing the teaching profession, have not means whereby they can attend school four years successively. Possibly a third reason, the shortage of teachers, makes it necessary for people to be released before their training is completed.” KENTUCKY, BOWLING GREEN WESTERN KENTUCKY STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President H. H. Cherry writes: “This institution gives a course in junior college work. We believe there should be four years above high school graduation. “We are very much interested in the subject which you are studying and we are writing to most earnestly request that you let us have a copy of this study if you have copies of same. We have just begun an investigation along this line and would greatly appreciate the survey which you are making together with such conclusions as you may ar¬ rive at.” LOUISIANA, NATCHITOCHES STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Y. L. Roy writes: “Ten years ago we admitted in a haphazard fashion first and second year high school students; and in the four years of the normal course covered not only three or four years of high school work, but two years of normal school training— at least this is what we attempted to do. “Two years ago we finally reached the point at which we had eliminated all work of secondary school grade from our curricula, since which time we have offered a four-year course of strictly college grade. We require graduation with sixteen units from Louisiana approved high schools, or the equivalent, for admission. “At the end of the first two years of our course we award the normal diploma, and at the end of the four-year course, we confer the A. B. degree. “The charter of this school does not specifically authorize it to issue degrees, but a legislative enactment confers such rights on all institutions of learning which offer four years of college work following high school graduation, provided each year consists of 180 school days. ‘•‘That this normal school should gradually evolve into a normal college was settled in the office of our state superintendent several years ago, at which were present our state superintendent and heads of all the state institutions of learning. The argument that determined the settlement of the question was the following: State institutions of learning must and should continue to offer four-year curricula; and since Louisiana has an extensive, efficient and thoroughly organized system of high schools, it is not proper that the State in its state schools should offer any work of secondary grade, thus not only com- 28' STATE NORMAL SCHOOL peting wiht the high schools of the state in the matter of students, but imposing a needless financial burden on the state treasury. “Personally I am convinced that the time is rapidly coming when in all progressive states of the Union, the normal schools will relegate work of secondary grade to the high school.” MAINE, FARMINGTON STATE NORMAL AND TRAINING COLLEGE President W. G. Mallet: “If we can have state law by which superintendents must recognize with better wages and higher grade certificates those who have done the normal school course of two or four years, I would then favor an increased amount of preparation, sa> four years, but not without such a law. “I wish very much we may bring that about in this state with wages offered to graduates of four-year normal schools such as will offer inducement to undertake it.” MASSACHUSETTS, FITCHBURG STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President John G. Thompson: “I believe emphatically that the normal school should offer four-year courses leading to a degree.” MASSACHUSETTS, HYANNIS HYANNIS NORMAL SCHOOL President W. A. Baldwin: “In regard to the length of courses. I believe as follows: As things are now constituted, the two-year, three-year and four-year courses should be offered, and students. who are more promising intellectually should be encouraged to take the longer courses. Mediocre students should be encouraged to return for postgraduate work after teaching for a year or two, or to summer sessions on each succeeding summer.” MASSACHUSETTS, LOWELL STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Clarence M. Weed, Acting Principal, writes: “I think the principals of the Massachusetts normal schools are all in favor of lengthening the course and eventually of making it a four-year course and granting a degree, with the emphasis always upon the professional side.” MASSACHUSETTS, WORCESTER STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Wm. B. Aspinwall: “I am heartily in favor of a normal school course of four years. During the past winter I was chairman of a committee of the Principals of the Normal Schools of this State appointed to investigate this matter and make recommendations. En¬ closed is a copy of our report. Although no definite action has been taken by our State Department of Education, this report has been endorsed by the School Superintendents of the State and by the Massa¬ chusetts Schoolmasters’ Club, so that we feel that there is a growing sentiment in favor of such a change.” MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 29 MICHIGAN, KALAMAZOO WESTERN STATE NORMAL President D. B. Waldo: “The normal schools of Michigan all have a four-year course. Three of the schools were put on the four-year basis only two years ago. Every member of our faculty, so far as I know, is enthusiastically in favor of the four-year course. The pres¬ ence of even a small minority who are working for the A. B. degree is helpful in many ways. Inasmuch as high schools are constantly calling on us for teachers, we could hardly be fair to them if our students were all on the two-year basis. “Law, medicine, engineering, etc., are on the professional basis— why not put teaching on this same basis, and expect at least a con¬ siderable percentage of normal school graduates to represent four years of training beyond the high school.” MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE NORTHERN STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President James H. Kaye: “In regard to the normal school ex¬ tending four years beyond the high school I have always been in favor of having a course for all classes of teachers. A normal school ought to train every class of teacher, including high school teachers. To do this, it requires a four-year course. We have such a course started. So far we have only graduated three from that course, but we expect to have more graduates from now on.” MINNESOTA, DULUTH STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President E. W. Bohannon: “As to the desirability of placing the courses in the normal schools on* a four-year basis I have to say that we have recently asked our own board to appeal to the legislature for authority to grant a degree in Education in order that we may offer such a course. We endeavored some years ago to have such legislation enacted, but were unsuccessful, more or less because of the opposition of the State University and the denominational colleges in the state. I believe very earnestly that the normal schools should be authorized to do four years of work. They cannot possibly meet the requirements for the training of elementary teachers which prevail or ought to prevail unless they offer more extended courses. Two years is to'i short a time in which to train a teacher, and all of the supervisory positions in elementary work call for a more extended period of train¬ ing than most of us are now able to offer. As a consequence many of these people are trained in other institutions which are much less qualified chan the normal schools are to do the work. Furthermore two years is too short a period in which to develop the spirit, the atmosphere or traditions which play so large a part in carrying the gains of the succeeding years along to those who may follow.” MINNESOTA, MANKATO STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President C. H. Cooper: “We have on paper a three-year course beyond the high school, but there is no special inducement for students to take this course and it is not successful. We are hoping to get authority to establish a four-year course leading to a degree in Educa¬ tion with the idea of training solely for the more important positions in the field of elementary education. We have no thought of training high school teachers.” 30 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL MINNESOTA, WINONA WINONA STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President G. E. Maxwell: “I am decidedly in favor of elementary teachers extending their course to one of four years. There certainly is no reason why the leaders, if not the regular teachers, in elementary education should not have the same effective education and professional training and skill as teachers in the high school. To be sure, the normal must not lose its primary problem of preparation of elementary teachers, but at the same time its possibilities of growth should not be limited within the confines of the two-year curriculum.” MISSOURI, CAPE GIRARDEAU SOUTHEAST MISSOURI STATE TEACHERS COLLEGE President W. S. Dearmont: “The normal schools and teachers colleges should by no means limit their work to two years above a high school course. They should by all means be standard four year colleges offering degrees. There is every reason for their offering a four-year course, and no legitimate objection to their doing so. A four-year college course is not too much to demand of all teachers in the public schools, both in the elementary grades and in the high school.” MISSOURI, MARYVILLE STATE TEACHERS COLLEGE President Ira Richardson: “Our experience, with the four-year course, as president and my previous experience in normal schools as instructor, convinces me that normal schools and teachers colleges are falling short of their obligations to the children of our country if they fail to establish four years of training as a standard preparation for teacher training for any phases of the public school work. We may be compelled to continue shorter programs by legal limitations, but I am very decided in my opinion as to the need of all teachers having four years of training with special application to the field which the. are to serve.” MISSOURI, SPRINGFIELD SOUTHWEST MISSOURI STATE TEACHERS COLLEGE President Clyde M. Hill writes: “The legislature of Missouri, upon the request of the presidents of the normal schools in this state, changed all of them to teachers colleges in 1919, and gave us the degree granting privilege. It goes without saying, therefore, that I consider that less than four years’ training is unsatisfactory for teachers in any line of work. Please note the statement under ‘College Work’ on p. 19 of the bulletin.” NEW HAMPSHIRE, KEENE THE NORMAL SCHOOL President Wallace E. Mason: “In regard to the four-year course. I am thoroughly in sympathy with it as you will see by our catalogue. We have five three-year courses in operation now. . .We are working for the extension of the three-year courses with degrees. You could get helpful suggestions from the Rhode Island Normal School, which has just taken this step.” MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 31 NEW MEXICO, LAS VEGAS NEW MEXICO NORMAL UNIVERSITY President Frank H. H. Roberts: “I think, without any question, the normal schools should have a four-year course. This institution is making a brave fight and winning all along the line. The only place to prepare teachers is in a normal school. The state institution cannot duplicate the religious and democratic spirit as the normal schools can.” NEW MEXICO, SILVER CITY THE NEW MEXICO STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President W. O. Hall: “I see no reason why the normal schools should not do four years’ work leading to a degree, the emphasis, as you state, is put on the training of teachers, which is a legitimate function of the normal schools. We offer four-year courses in the state of Mexico.’ ’ NEW YORK, ALBANY NEW YORK STATE COLLEGE FOR TEACEHERS President A. R. Brubacher: ‘‘You ask a difficult question*regarding the four-year normal school or college normal as you designate it. Perhaps my position will be clear when I say that I believe it would be folly to have a four-year course which consists almost exclusively of professional work. On Ihe other hand, if the four-year course means two full years of informational and, cultural courses, followed or accom¬ panied by two years of professional work, then I am heartily in favor of it. Perhaps it goes without saying that I do not believe, with many others, that professional courses also have cultural value to the same extent that the regular courses offered by liberal large colleges have.” NEW YORK, BROCKPORT STATE NORMAL TRAINING SCHOOL President Alfred C. Thompson: ‘‘We are in favor of as many years of normal school work beyond high school as possible. It is certainly advisable for every teacher to have all the education possible. Our course is now two years. We are about to adopt a three-year course.” NEW YORK, CORTLAND STATE NORMAL SCHOOL AND TRAINING SCHOOL President H. DeW. DeGroat: ‘‘It is designed to extend the courses of the New York State Normal School three years beyond the period of high school graduation. Eventually the course will go to four years, but these courses,, except special ones, will be aimed to prepare the teachers for the elementary school and not for high school.” NEW YORK, ONEONTA STATE NORMAL AND TRAINING SCHOOL President P. J. Bugbee: ‘‘There are ten normal schools in this state. Their field is elementary education only. The high school field is occupied by the State Teachers College at Albany. For entrance to the normal schools graduation from a four-year high school course is 32 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL required. The course - at present is two years, although the State De¬ partment and the principals of the various normal schools are con¬ templating a three-year course in the not distant future. This probably will not take place until the attendance in the normal schools increases. The attendance is about three-fifths at present of the pre-war regis¬ tration. ” ; * a NEW YORK, PLATTSBURGH STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Geo. K. Hawkins: “If, as is the case in our state, the normal school diploma licenses its holders to teach only in the elementary grades, in my judgment two years beyond a high school is sufficiently long for the course. If the diploma should be unlimited in character, then at least three years and possibly four should be given to this extended course which naturally would involve a very substantial amount of academic work.” OHIO, BOWLING GREEN BOWLING GREEN STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President H. B. Williams: “You will see from our catalogue that we are offering both two-year diploma courses for elementary teachers and four-year degree courses for high school teachers. This means that we are covering the field of a teachers college. We believe strongly in the four-year program for two reasons: first, the demand for profes¬ sionally trained high school teachers is far in excess of the output of all types of institutions which undertake to train such teachers. In the private foundations and state universities the professional training of secondary teachers is too often a side issue, whereas in a professional school the atmosphere and point of view is distinctively favorable. Second, even though the demand for professionally trained secondary teachers should not warrant the maintenance of four-year courses in a teacher training institution, the needs of the two-year courses would justify the maintenance of a four-year course. I am very certain that we could not secure the type of instructors which we have unless they had the opportunity of giving some advanced courses. I consider this reason very significant. I am very much interested in the problem upon which you are working and shall be glad to receive any informa¬ tion that you may print as a result of your study.” OHIO, KENT KENT STATE NORMAL COLLEGE President John E. McGilvrey: “We believe that the normal school should extend its two-year course to four years as soon as conditions in its particular field will permit. The benefits resulting from the reaction of the student body in the additional two years’ work on the students in the first two years are marked.” OHIO, OXFORD TEACHERS COLLEGE OF MIAMI UNIVERSITY Dean H. C. Minnich: “I wish to call your attention to the report of Mr. C. L. Allen made on a number of phases of education: one on the normal college or normal school, and recommending that all our normal schools be called normal colleges. A copy of this report ma be obtained by addressing Mr. C. B. Galbreath, Acting Secretary of the Joint Legislative Committee on Administrative Reorganization, Colum¬ bus, Ohio.” MAYV1LLE, NORTH DAKOTA 33 OKLAHOMA, WEATHERFORD SOUTHWESTERN STATE NORMAL . President) J. B. Eskridge writes: “In January of the present year the Board of Education voted to make colleges out of our normal schools, and we are adding two years more to the curriculum. We put the emphasis, of course, on teacher training. It seems to me this is the only hope of our normal schools, most especially in our part of the country.” PENNSYLVANIA, BLOOMSBURG BLOOMSBURG STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President C. H. Fisher: “Some of our Pennsylvania normal schools will very likely become four-year institutions within a few years, witn authority to grant degrees. Which schools will became four-year schools will depend partly on their geographical location, but what is even more important, on the facilities which they can command for student teaching. A number of our schools are located in remote places, away from centers of population. . .Such institutions are likely to remain two-year institutions, but may add another year....” PENNSYLVANIA, INDIANA STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President John A. Keith: “As far back as 1S92, the normal schools of the country were attempting to standardize their work to the equivalent of two years beyond graduation from a four-year high school. Twenty-eight years have elapsed since that time and except in a few* cases the standards of the training of teachers for the elemen¬ tary grades have not advanced. My feeling is that these standards should have advanced in the interval. Society has advanced, industry has advanced, everything seems to have moved forward at a more rapid rate than education has moved forward. This lagging behind has been due in part to the lack of leadership in normal schools, and in part to the unwillingness to pay taxes on the part of political parties which must seek reelection. ‘ ‘The high schools are parts of the public school system. In fact, the high schools the country over, except in the East, were organized and fathered by normal school graduates. In the East the high school seems to have been developed from the academy and the college man and the academy man have been in the saddle from the first. The normal schools ought, in my opinion, to resume and expand the training of high school teachers. This ought to be in four-year courses with degrees. The teachers of special subjects such as music, drawing, manual training, domestic science, physical education, commercial subjects, agriculture, etc., should be required to spend three years in training and later four years. All normals should conduct differentiated curricula after the manner of the curriculum for the training of special teachers in order that they might effectively prepare teachers for rural schools, primary grades, kindergarten, immediate grades, and junior high schools. The junior high school curriculum should be made three years in length at once and before another ten years have passed, it should go to four years. The other curricula should remain at two years until such time as the normal schools of the country have gotten inside of the demand for teachers. You will be interested to know that this is the direction in which we are now moving in Pennsylvania, with the support of the new superintendent of public instruction and the Governor.” 34 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL PENNSYLVANIA, KUTZTOWN KEYSTONE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President A. C. Rothermel: “There is a movement in our state to transform our normal schools into normal colleges. I am personally not sure whether in the beginning we should require all those who take the normal course to remain for the four-year course, but I am pretty definitely decided that ultimately this is what should happen. I am of the conviction too that there should be a reasonable amount of academic work in the third and fourth years of the normal course after the schools have been converted into normal colleges. There is a scarcity of high school teachers in our state and the average college does little to give teachers an adequate professional training for teach¬ ing in a high school. I cannot quite understand why the high school teachers should have less of professional training than the grade teacher and yet that is true, I judge, in most of the states today.’’ PENNSYLVANIA, MANSFIELD STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President William R. Straughn: “Our normal school course in Pennsylvania is two years beyond the high school, but I am personally very much in favor of a four-year course leading to a degree. I am also in favor of retaining the present two-year course for those who expect to teach in the graded and ungraded schools, but offering the four-year course, which would be two years beyond the two-year course, to those who may want to prepare for high school teaching. “To my mind, in order to dignify the teaching profession properly, and to have a real claim on public support, our normal schools ought to be on an equal basis\ with colleges. If we do not do this, it is going to be only a question of time when the normals will pass out of existence.’ ’ PENNSYLVANIA, MILLER,SVILLE MILLERSVILLE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President C. H. Gardiner: “All of our normal schools in Pennsyl¬ vania are owned and operated by the State, and the work is quite uniform. At present the course in each school calls for two years in' addition to four years of high school work, but we are considering the advisability of also putting in a four-year course for those that wish to specialize along special lines. Just how soon this will come I do not know, though some schools have already made a beginning. ‘ ‘Educational matters in Pennsylvania are in a wonderful state of transition owing to the entire reorganization of the State Department of Education with the new superintendent and entire new force. It will take us a year or two to settle down, but if the present plans materialize, this state will make wonderful strides within the next few years.’’ PENNSYLVANIA, SHIPPENSBURG CUMBERLAND VALLEY STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Ezra Lehman: “We expect to extend our normal school course to four years beyond high school in the near future. Personally I believe that the normal schools should be raised to the rank of teachers colleges and that they should give regular degrees in educa¬ tion on the completion of a four-year course. “I also believe that the two-year course should be retained. Our MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 35 special field, after all, is the preparation of teachers for the elemental- schools, and a four-year course would deter many high school graduates from beginning the work. On the other hand I realize that if teachin is to be raised to the dignity of a profession it must demand very different qualifications of those who enter it. Certainly every principal and supervisor should have more than a two-year course. “The ordinary college is neither qualified nor inclined to give - course of this kind. Hence I believe that it is incumbent upon the normal schools to take up this work. The four-year course should coordinate definitely with the two-year course so that if a student desires to finish the work after teaching on a two-year certificate sh' can return to school and take up the advanced work without loss of time.” PENNSYVANIA, SLIPPERY ROCK THE SLIPPERY ROCK STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President J. Linwood Eisenberg: “I believe that the normal schools should as soon as possible throughout the country arrange to give addition to the two-year course after high school graduation, a four-yea v course leading to a degree in education with special emphasis upon training of teachers. Part of our program in Pennsylvania is to move in this direction as fast as possible by permission through legislation. “We have just in the last year made high school graduation requirement for entrance into the normal school. The work, of course in the normal school should be of college grade in thoroughness intensity at all times. I think one of the failures of the normal schools in the past has been the failure to make the work thorough.’’ PENNSYLVANIA, WEST CHESTER STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Andrew T. Smith: “I would express my definite con¬ viction that for the preparation of elementary school teachers, two yea of normal school training, based upon college entrance preparation, seems f° me entirely adequate to fit an individual to grow in the teaching profession, and that is about all we can reasonably hope to secure. An idea that is growing generally throughout Pennsylvania, is that in due time we shall establish a four-year course in our present normal schools, this course being designed to prepare teachers for second- schools. If that comes, the likelihood is that the present schools will be called Junior Colleges for Teachers, and the four-year course ti e Senior College for Teachers. . ,** SOUTH CAROLINA, ROCK HILL WINTHROP COLLEGE President D. B. Johnson: “We have been giving a four-year course of study and awarding the degree of A. B. and B. S. for over twenty years. I think this usage of ours will speak better for my opinion ot the four years work leading to a degree than anything else I ca say. 1 he plan has worked admirably with us.’’ 36 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL SOUTH DAKOTA, ABERDEEN SOUTH DAKOTA NORMAL AND INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL President H. W. Foght: “...This year we have added a third and fourth year beyond the high school graduation, making a full-fledged teachers college. About forty young people have entered the uppc classes, as a result of which we will be able to graduate a group o nine or ten people in the Senior Teachers College next spring. . . “I believe with all my heart in the teachers college. I was instru¬ mental in getting this school changed from a two-year normal school to a four-year teachers college, which is all the argument you need from me as to whether or not I favor the four-year institution. As a matter of fact I am absolutely confident that we will never solve the problem of getting professionally trained teachers until we get them to invest more time and more money in preparation for their life work. “A state like yours is now old enough and rich enough to do the right thing by its schools and certainly it ought to be done, and now.’’ SOUTH DAKOTA, SPRINGFIELD STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President C. G. Lawrence: “The work in our school is limited to two years above high school, but we are hoping that in the near future we will be permitted to add two more years to our course and thus become a teachers college.It seems to me that this extension of courses in the normal schools is absolutely necessary if the normal schools are to be permitted to do more effective work in preparing teachers for our public schools. In fact, it seems almost imperative that the courses should be extended to four years beyond the high school be¬ cause the recent state law limits the graduates of the normal school with two years above the high school in grades below the tenth. . . Unless we are permitted to extend our course to four years within the near future our schools cannot expect to grow because many who expect to prepare for teaching will select a teachers college rather thar a normal school with a limited course.” TEXAS, CANYON THE WEST TEXAS STATE NORMAL COLLEGE President J. A. Hill: “As to the length of the normal school cour above high school, we have come to the conclusion in Texas that in order to adequately prepare teachers for any grades of the common schools, a four-year college course strongly emphasizing teacher traini ' is necessary. We believe thgt for kindergarten, primary, and grade teachers a four-year course of training is just as essential as it : for high school teachers. Indeed, the Grade Teachers’ Association o* Texas requested the normal school to give a training course for grade teachers, leading to a degree, in every sense of the word equivalent to a standard Bachelor of Arts degree. “The teaching profession must impress itself upon the public as a body of trained experts.” TEXAS, COMMERCE THE EAST TEXAS STATE NORMAL COLLEGE President S. H. Whitley: “It is my deliberate and candid opinion that the course of study for normal colleges' should cover four years of college work leading to a degree in education. My conclusion wit* 1 respect to this propisition is based largely on the belief that training MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 37 for elementary teaching positions should he put on as high a level as training for teaching in secondary positions. By offering four years of work of college rank, normalj colleges may easily place the prepara¬ tion of teachers for elementary positions on the same level as that for secondary positions which has been emphasized for a long time.” TEXAS, SAN MARCOS SOUTHWEST TEXAS STATE NORMAL COLLEGE President C. E. Evans: ‘‘I am strongly of the conviction that the normal schools must offer four years of work of college rank leading to the Bachelor’s degree. Unless the normal colleges do so, they will soon lose ambitious and aspiring young men and women from the stu¬ dent body. The two-year normal college course does not lead definitely anywhere, unless it is to a ‘blind alley.’ ”... Four years is much more satisfactory. . . Then, too, this will tenc to put the profession of teaching somewhat on a par with law, medi¬ cine, and pharmacy. A young man cannot now enter a medical college unless he has had two years’ work of college rank. If normal colleges are to/ be permanent institutions, they must go to the four-year college basis.’ ’ TENNESSEE, JOHNSON CITY EAST TENNESSEE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Sidney G. Gilbreath: ”For graduation three years’ work above high school graduation is required. Those who complete this course are permitted to teach in high schools. . . We hope to add a fourth year leading to the granting of the bachelor’s degree. We shall continue to grant elementary teacher’s license to those who have had two years of normal school training above high school graduation. ‘ If we are going to make teaching a profession, the normal school must offer the best preparation for teaching that can be given in an., school.’ ’ VIRGINIA, EAST RADFORD STATE NORMAL SCHOOL FOR WOMEN President John McConnell: “I feel that two years upon graduation from a four-year high school is hardly adequate time for the training of teachers. I do not think well of the three-year course. If we extend our course longer than two years it will be, in my judgment, necessary to make it a four-year course.” WASHINGTON, CHENEY STATE NORMAL SCHOOL Secretary to President: “I may say that the Cheney Normal School is now a normal college carrynig the four years of work beyond hign school graduation. President Showaltsr is very much in favor of the plan. “In explanation I may say that our two vears of upper colleg work is arranged on the regular collegiate plan of choosing a major and a minor to be worked out fully through special departments. The lower half of the normal school work is so arranged that it will lead to an elementary diploma at the end of two years. This is done in order to keep the schools supplied with teachers and to make natural 38 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL break in the work at the middle of the four-year period. The two college years are worked out more completely because of the need& which the teachers must prepare to meet. ‘‘You will note from the sheet which I am sending to you that there is a regular core of such matter required of all courses. Then there is a differentiated core required for different courses within the two years. We find that this plan works out very well and that every year larger and still larger numbers of our students return for the upper college work. With the new plan which provides that teachers, elementary and high school, shall receive the same salary based upon equal preparation and experience has proven to be a great stimulus to the elementary teacher to work on through the advanced courses President Showalter believes that every State in the Union should adopt such a plan and believes it .to be commendable that the normal schools of the country lead out in this recommendation.” WASHINGTON. ELLENSBURG WASHINGTON STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President George H. Black: ‘‘Replying to your direct inquiry con¬ cerning the four-year course, I wish to say that the normal schools of Washington are now offering two-year, three-year and four-year courses for high school graduates. Conditions may differ in differen states as to the demand for such courses. We find that teachers of experience, especially those teaching in city schools, are beginning to demand a four-year course in our state, and probably in the next three or four years we shall see a decided movement toward a four-year normal course. Such courses are already offered in a majority of the normal schools of the United States.” WEST VIRGINIA, HUNTINGTON MARSHALL COLLEGE President F. R. Hamilton: ‘‘Marshall College offers this year for the first time the four-year college course. The conditions in this state certainly justify the organization of work in this institution on a four-year college basis.” WISCONSIN, LA CROSSE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President F. A. Cotton: ‘‘Our Board is just now consindering the advisability of organizing four-year courses in all of the normal schools of the state. The Attorney General recently decided that under the normal school laws, the board is authorized to establish four-year courses. All of the schools now have three-year courses, and it is possible that during the next year or two four-year courses will be established.’ ’ WISCONSIN, MILWAUKEE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Carroll Gardner Pearse: ‘‘We are now in Wisconsin making every possible effort to establish full courses, four years in length beyond high school. I believe that every progressive state will do this within a few years. All state normal schools should be teachers colleges with courses four years in length beyond high school and the privilege of giving the appropriate degree in education to stu¬ dents who complete such a course.” MAYVILLE, NORTH DAKOTA 39 WISCONSIN, OSHKOSH STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President H. A. Brown: “The state normal schools of Wisconsin are not giving four-year courses at this time, but a strong effort is bein' made by the presidents of the normal schools to secure these courses and the granting of degrees at an early date. We are hoping to pi this through this year. We have a three-year course for high school teachers and a three-year industrial course, and our other courses are two years in length. “I am firm in the conviction that the normal schools should give four-year courses with degrees, but I am equally firm in the belief that the work of normal schools in this case shall be strictly work of university grade, both as to quality and quantity. 1 fear that a good deal of the normal school work at the present time could not qualify in this respect.” WISCONSIN, SUPERIOR STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President V. E. McCaskill: “I might say that we do not lia,v^ a four-year normal course. We are. hoping that the legislature will look favorably upon such a proposition for the next two years. My own personal opinion is that there is no reaison why the normal schoo 1 ' should not do four years ’ of work. I believe they can do it and do it as thoroughly as can be done by the great universities.” -o- Extracts from Letters of Normal School Presidents Averse to a Four-year Course above High School Graduation in Normal Schools ALABAMA, FLORENCE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President Henry J. Willingham: “It is the business of the normal school to serve its territory regardless of all other questions. Each institution, or those managing it, must determine whether that service can be best rendered through! a two-year course or a four-year course. “In most; parts of the South a two-year course is all we can offer yet if we are to reach the average village school with our graduates. If we were to give them a four-year course they would never enter as a teacher anything less than the very best and highest-paid teachiiv places in the state. The average grade position, therefore, would never know what a normal school graduate looks like. This condition does not obtain, I am sure, in a. good many other states and a great man> other sections of still other states.” ARIZONA, TEMPE TEMPE NORMAL SCHOOL OF ARIZONA President A. J. Matthews: “...So far as we are concerned I would not be in, favor of it [extending course to four years], as we have such a small population and our university is not overcrowded. Such a course for us would undoubtedly hold a few people, but not in sufficient numbers to justify the expense. 40 3 0112 105658287 STATE NORMAL SCHOOL KENTUCKY, RICHMOND EASTERN KENTUCKY STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President T. J. Coates: “We are of the opinion that this institution should devote its entire time to the first two years’ college work. With the money we have to spend, we feel that we must think quantitatively. We feel that we must devote our entire time to the work of furnishing teachers with two years’ high school work. “I understand fully that there are arguments for the full four years’ college work for the training of teachers. Some day we may advance to that point, hut we do not feel that we are prepared for it yet.’’ MISSISSIPPI, HATTIESBURG MISSISSIPPI NORMAL COLLEGE President Joe Cook: “I...believe that the normal school should continue with two years of college work, the completion of which is evidenced by a diploma, and leave the granting of degrees to colleges organized for such work. “Personally, I believe in a three years’ high school and above that a three years’ college course leading to a degree... “The normal school giving two years’ college work has already demonstrated its usefulness, and I believe ’that usefulness would be destroyed if the normal school should undertake to enter the field of the regular college. I know that there is an argument that the normal school can continue to give a diploma upon the completion of two years’ college work, and thereby be relieved of the hurt that comes from the taunt of the regular college. However, if such a course should be followed, the student .would never feel that he had completed the normal school upon receiving a diploma, the value of the diploma would be depreciated, and the spirit of the normal school, which in my opinion is the most valuable asset in the school work of the nation, would be lost.’’ TENNESSEE, MURFREESBORO MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE NORMAL SCHOOL President P. A. Lyon: “You will observe that our course of study extends three years beyond a high school course. This is the first year we have tried this, and we have not tried it sufficiently to de¬ termine about the results... I doubt if we should enter into competition with the state universities, by giving the four-year course leading to a degree. . .We believe this is the best policy to pursue. However, 1 think this depends on circumstances, and I have known a number of instances where the normal schools gave the four-year course very successfully.’ ’ I GENERAL PRINTING CO.. MINNEAPOLIS