THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS LIBRARY 332 5875 V.26 fnomios ■;V,.W^;Aj, The person charging this material is re- sponsible for its return on or before the Latest Date stamped below. Theft, mofilation, and underlining of books are reasons for disciplinary action and may result in dismissal from the University. University of Illinois Library JUL J 5 L161— O-1096 / Q A LETTER LORD GRENVILLE, SINKING FUND. THOMAS PEREGRINE COURTENAY, Esq., MP. LONDON : JOHN MURRAY, ALIJEMARLE STREET. MDCOCXXViri. LONDON : PRINTED BY WILLIAM CLOWES, Stamford-Street. PREFACE. It is perhaps necessary to assure the reader that, although the following observations proceed from a person who holds an office under His Majesty's Government, they express only the sentiments of the individual writer. He is entirely ignorant of the opinions enter- tained by the Cabinet, or by the Ministers of Finance, upon the great financial question now at issue. He thinks it also necessary to apologise for the length of this tract. He was desirous of giving a full, historical, explanation of the system of finance, established by Mr. Pitt the author of the Sinking Fund ; and he was also desirous of pursu- ing Lord Grenville's argument, point by point. He fears that the connexion of these two purposes has occasioned repetition. CONTENTS. Sect. Page I. Introduction . . . . .1 2 Principle of the Sinking Fund , . . . 7 3. On the Essay, Chap. I. — Necessity of a Surplus Re- venue for the support of a Sinking Fund . .12 4. History ofthe Sinking Fund of 1716 . 22 5. Mr. Pitt's system of Finance; Sinking Funds of 1786 and 1792. . . . . .30 6. On the Inutihty of borrowed Sinking Funds ; and In- efficacy of Sinking Funds operating in War . 38 7. On the Essay, Chap. II. — Operation and results of the present Sinking Fund ; — its benefit consisting in the release of previously appropriated taxation . 48 8. On nominal Capitals given for money borrowed . 51 9. On the operation of the Fund, as supported by sur- plus taxation . . . .54 10. On the reduction of Debt, as effected by mere ex- changes of Equivalents. Compound Interest . 55 II. On the Essay, Chap. III. — Attempted Permanence and frequent Interruption of the System . . 59 12. On the benefits of Compound Interest; provisions adopted for giving permanence to the Sinking Fund of 1786 ..... 61 Vm CONTENTS. Sect. Page 13. On the actual Failure of these endeavours ; history of Mr. Pitt's Sinking Fund, 1786 to 1793 ; effects of taxes, and their repeal ... 63 14. Sinking Fund during the war of 1793 . . 79 15. Modification of the Sinking Fund in 1802 . 89 16. Sinking Fund in the war of 1803 . . . 92 17. Modification of the Sinking Fund in 1813 . 93 18. The Sinking Fund during the present period of peace ; Repeal of Taxes ; Deadweight . . .100 19. Alleged Failure of the System generally . . 108 20. On Lord Grenville's conclusion ; supposed advantages of the Sinking Fund . . . . .113 21. Concluding Observations and Suggestions . 118 LETTER LORD GRENVILLE, My Lord, Though not unused to political contro- versy, I undertake, with unfeigned diffidence, the task of commenting upon your Lordship's Essay. I never read an appeal to the public, more likely to produce the effect which it contemplated. Your authority as a states- man, great for the last forty years, is strengthened and embellished by the ab- sence of personal interest. The ingenious malignity, often effectual against ministers, cannot impute to your Lordship, retired among your pines, and disconnected from parties, any other motive than that which you avow ; — a desire to advise your country B " in a discussion of urgent interest, and per- manent importance." The advice, moreover, penetrates willing ears, because it tends to reconcile duty and inclination. Its effect is to relieve govern- ment from an invidious task, and the country from a burdensome obligation. I will not say, considering your lordship's peculiar situation, that these circumstances justify a distrust of the advice ; but I do submit, that they detract much from the value of the testimony which is borne to the soundness of that advice, by the sympathy, and the applause, with which it is received : at the least, I may urge them as a part of my own justification, for setting forth my doubts as to the wisdom of the counsel. I am painfully sensible of the inequality of the contest in which I engage. The opinions of a subordinate official man have no extrinsic value ; they can derive no weight except from the force of the arguments which support them. Nor could I with perfect confidence repel an imputation, that they are tinged with prejudice. I do not wish to deny, that my notions of public finance were formed in the school of Mr. Pitt, the author of the measure which it is now proposed to con- demn; of that great and amiable man I have an affectionate remembrance which has tempted me, in the society of his successors, to exclaim : " Heu ! Quanta minus est cum reliquis versari, quam tui meminisse T This feeling, I own, has generated an un- willingness to admit, that his principles, in any branch of pohtical science, were funda- mentally wrong and dangerous. I make this admission, because, though probably neither Lord Grenville, nor the public, knows enough of my history, to lead either to ascribe my opinions to this prejudice, there are those in high places who, being aware of the perti- nacity with which I have, for more than five B 2 and twenty years, advocated the principles of Mr. Pitt's Sinking Fund, (though I have certainly modified some of my notions as to their application) may detract, on that ac- count, even from such weight as belongs to my opinion. All that I desire is, that while I claim no credit for the deep and continued attention which I have bestowed upon the matter in question, my suggestions may not receive less than their due consideration, be- cause the opinions on which they rest were learned in youth from an admired master. Your Lordship deprecates an imputation opposite in its kind. I subscribe readily and heartily to the forcible observations, which you have made, upon the arrogation of poli- tical consistency. No doubt, it is peculiarly absurd, for us who make a daily boast of the progress of science and intelhgence, and thereupon justify important changes, to con- fine each individual man to the opinions which he may have originally formed or im- bibed ; whatever may be the duration of his life, or the variety of his experience. Accord- ing to this plan, error has a life-estate in every living mind ; the heir may discard it, but the existing possessor must sustain it. From your Lordship, apologies for incon- sistency were quite unnecessary ; but here again, I must make a distinction between him who gives, and those who follow, the advice. Pre-conceived opinions, and the doc- trines inculcated by departed authority, may unquestionably lead to a dangerous persist- ance in error ; but there is another danger, not entirely to be disregarded; the very progress of improvement, and the habit of discarding opinions formerly sacred, engender an aptitude to dissent, and a love of paradox. Some men, afraid of giving too much weight to opinions consecrated by time or authority, are tempted to give too little. T am per- suaded that, among a great portion of the House of Commons, and of literary and poli- tical writers of the present day, contradiction to an opinion received twenty years ago, would be the characteristic of a doctrine most likely to ensure its reception. Again, exaggeration on one side, produces depreciation on the other. A measure or a doctrine truly wise or sound, is commonly praised even far beyond its merits, and, usually, praised ignorantly and inaccurately. This has been eminently the case of the Sink- ing Fund ; its invention has been spoken of as an effort of genius, and its operation as a work of enchantment. It is not unnatural, that the real beauty of a figure so tawdrily disguised, should not always receive the praise, which it deserves in its native sim- plicity. It appears to me that, as well in the form- ation of your judgment, as in the argument in which it is conveyed, you lay too much .stress upon adventitious and incidental circum- stances ; you combat opinions which are un- justly imputed to your opponents : above all, you entirely neglect the fundamental princi- ple of the measure which you condemn. You have, therefore, not presented to the public the question which they are required to de- cide. This view of the defects in your lord- ship's treatment of the great subject of con- troversy, emboldens me to offer the following observations. §2. You have no where, as I humbly submit, distinctly stated the true principle of the sink- ing fund; this is, — That the Legislature ought not to impose a perpetual burdeii upon the resources of the country. Those who have the supreme power of the state at any parti- cular period, ought not, indefinitely, to anti- cipate the means wherewith their successors are to administer its affairs. They must not provide for the expenses to which they are subject, by a perpetual mortgage of the rcn- 8 tal and income of the people, for all ages to come. They must, themselves and their existing constituents, bear the additional bur- den, which is necessary to avoid such per- petual or indefinite anticipations. These maxims, which in truth are only various expressions of the same meaning, constitute, as I suggest, the principle of the sinking fund ; that upon which it is endea- voured to give to arrangements for redeeming the public debts, the character of sacred obli- gation, and fundamental law. I may be under a prejudice, or a delusion, but I own that the principle appears to me to be obviously just. It is, indeed, only the application to the whole rental and resources of the country, of a principle which our law has, by repeated acts, imposed upon all those individual or corporate proprietaries, which have a perpe- tual succession ; upon the crown, for instance, and the church. A corresponding restriction is voluntarily imposed by the acts of indivi- duals, who leave their property to more than one heir in succession ; all, but the last, (and in the case of the state, the crown, or the church, there is no last) are limited in their power of charging the land, for jointures, marriage portions, and other perfectly legiti- mate expenses : still more, in their power of mortgaging it for personal debts. Distinctions might, unquestionably, be shown between these cases and that of the state ; but I am the more confident in using them as illustrations of my position, because your lordship has correctly observed that " a reference to similar transactions in private life is the best of all instruments for the discovery of truth in political economy."* There is, indeed, a class of public debts to which the limitation of duration is applied by law. Parishes, and sometimes, I believe, counties, are empowered to raise money for * Essay, p. 41. 10 certain public purposes, by anticipation of their rates ; parliament has never thought fit to allow of a perpetual charge upon these funds. The power of charging is, usually, for twenty-one years, within which time, the debt must be discharged, either by the original terms of the loan, or by the application of a sinking fund. Yet the purposes for which this charge is permitted, are not usually ephe- meral ; and a perpetual mortgage might be allowed, with, at least, as much reason as in the case of a national debt. The sovereign power of the state is un- controlled by laws ; humanly speaking, it is omnipotent ; but it surely will not be con- tended that those who exercise it are not under an obligation, I would even say a moral obligation, to regard the interests of their successors and descendants. If the payment of taxes is burdensome to the people, and the operations of finance are difficult to the legislature, it is not just or equitable for the 11 occasional holders of the power, to relieve themselves by imposing that burden and difficulty upon those who are to follow them. It is quite unnecessary to consider here, in what degree taxes are an evil ; because, if they are not so, and if there be no difficulty in raising them, we can have no excuse, nor, indeed, any advantage, in borrowing money for our own expenses, and throwing the in- terest upon posterity. The measure which we take to ease ourselves of the weight, proves that it is a burden disagreeable to be borne. It is strange, indeed, to listen to what one frequently hears, an objection to sinking funds, as attempts to bind posterity. Do not those who make the objection, does not your lord- ship, perceive, that the law of the sinking fund only imposes upon posterity an obligation, from which, at most, they may rid themselves by a sacrifice of uniformity or consistency ; while the obligation imposed by the law 12 which creates a perpetual annuity, can only be renounced through a breach of faith ? Thus much, preliminarily, on the principle. I will now follow your lordship through the details of your argument ; and shall have fre- quent occasion to enforce and illustrate the fundamental doctrine, the maintenance of which is essential to the greater part of what I shall offer, in opposition to your several pro- positions. Perhaps, the arrangement which you have made of your argument, is not the most convenient for discussing the question in reference to that doctrine ; but I still think it best to pursue the Essay through its regular course, as well in deference to your lordship, as because it contains very few observations which are not worthy of separate notice. §3. You begin by laying down as a rule, " The " necessity of a surplus revenue for the sup- 13 " port of a sinking fund*." And from this you, naturally and reasonably, deduce the two further positions ; the one affirming " The " inutility of borrowed sinking fundsf ;" the other, *' The inefficacy of sinking funds ope- " rating in war J." According to my principle, the parliament which raises money by anticipation of the revenue, is limited as to the period for which the mortgage is to endure. The plainest and simplest mode of effecting this limitation is, by borrowing money upon an annuity, to exist only during the limited period. When this mode is adopted, we pay for the money bor- rowed a temporary interest, exceeding, per- haps, by a fifth or a sixth, that to which we should be liable if we agreed to pay the interest for ever. This excess necessarily obliges us to appropriate, if it exist, or to create by taxation, if it do not exist, so much of surplus revenue. And there is in * Essay, p. 5. t p. 7. J p. 12. 14 this case no question ; the whole money must be raised, or we are bankrupts ; but there is no reason for raising any further surplus with a view to redemption. The sinking fund is inherent in the original annuity. I would here stop to ask your lordship, whether, if it were practicable, without loss, to raise all our loans upon such terminable annuities, you would think it unadvisable so to raise them ? I am really not aware, how you would answer this question; but I am sure that you perceive at once, that an an- swer in the affirmative, implies an adherence to my position, that we ought to subject our- selves to additional taxation, in order to lighten the burden upon posterity. I would almost venture further to ask you, whether it would not have been beneficial to England, if there could have existed, during the last century, a fundamental and irrepeal- able law, limiting the power of parliament in its mortgages of the revenue ? 15 However, no such constitutional limitation does or can exist ; and there are, we know, practical difficulties in the way of borrowing upon terminable annuities: the lenders are unwilling to take such annuities, at their proportionate value to perpetuities. In bor- rowing, therefore, upon them, we not only incur an additional charge, as before stated, for the sake of redemption, but we also pay for this unwillingness of the lenders. It is not to our present purpose to inquire, whether there has not been sometimes a too ready acquiescence in this unwillingness ; I pass then to the other mode, by which the limitation of the mortgage is to be effected. This mode consists, in borrowing upon a perpetual annuity ; setting apart, in addition to the interest, so much of revenue as will redeem the annuity within the period limited The manner in which this additional revenue is applied, is indifferent, provided that it so operates as to set free, at the end of the pe- 16 riod, revenue equal to the interest of the loan. It may be applied in the purchase, in the market, of the particular securities which occasion the appropriation ; in the purchase of any other annuities of equal amount ; or in any other mode whereby the charge which will remain upon the resources of the state at the expiration of the period, is proportion- ably diminished. It is unquestionably true, that the ad- ditional revenue destined for this purpose, ought to be a clear surplus, beyond all charge for the interest of debts, and all other per- manent charges upon the revenue ; and it is also true that it ought to be a surplus beyond the amount of the ordinary expenses of the state existing at the time, even though those expenses are not in their legal form perma- nent ; the appropriation would be otherwise evasive and nugatory. So far, then, I concur in your lordship's first position. And yet, I do not admit as a 17 necessary consequence of this position, that the appropriation is always absurd or ineffi- cacious, when there may happen to be, in one or more of the years in which it endures, a deficiency of revenue, occasioning a new debt. My difference from your lordship upon this point, is a necessary consequence of my principle of a sinking fund. The surplus from which that fund is to be supplied may cease for a time, and the condition which has been prescribed, as to the duration of charge, may, nevertheless, be strictly preserved. This happens when (as in the year 1827, to which you refer*) a deficiency occurs, which there is good reason for supposing temporary ; an anticipation then takes place of the resources of the next, or next two years immediately following. No permanent charge is, in this case, created; if the deficiency still con- tinues, the principle would assuredly require * Page 10. 18 that it should be supplied by the creation of a new revenue. The principle is in either case maintained. In my opinion, we ought always to keep up an average revenue, ex- ceeding in amount every permanent and or- dinary charge ; so as to meet the accidental occurrence of a deficiency : but if this provi- sion has not been made, the temporary defici- ency must be met by a temporary expedient ; and every thing then proceeds as before. Perhaps, you may suggest that, even according to my principle, the object would have been equally well effected, if we had suffered the appropriation to be suspended, until a returning surplus had supplied it, and replaced the fund in the condition to which an uninterrupted appropriation would have brought it. I confidently aver, that this mode would have been, in every respect, more inconvenient, and would have led to greater complexity of account, than that of issuing Exchequer bills. If, indeed, your lordship had 19 not specifically mentioned the measure of 1827, 1 should scarcely have ascribed to that occasional measure, the strong and contemp- tuous expressions which you have directed against " borrowed sinking funds." Your observations, I will presume, are ra- ther applied to the systematic existence of a sinking fund, continually supplied by borrow- ing ; or, what you deem the same thing, the continued existence of a sinking fund, while the revenue falls short of the expenditure and the deficiency is supplied by loans; so that stock is sold and bought by government at the same time ; and you thence urge the impossibility of keeping up a real sinking fund in time of war, when there is a constant and certain deficiency of income. I have already admitted, that the surplus constituting a sinking fund, ought to be a surplus, beyond the ordinary expenditure. I have thus conceded to your Lordship all that you object to sinking funds, systema- c 2 20 tically supported by loans in time of peace. The sinking fund ought in such a case to be either restored to its due amount by taxa- tion, or avowedly reduced to the amount of existing surplus. It can scarcely be neces- sary to argue, that the state ought, in com- mon prudence, and, with a view to its power of conducting any war which may arise, to apply some surplus, or at least to make no addition to its debt. At all events in time of settled peace, the finances ought to be, and may be, placed upon a regular and almost certain basis. The legislature has an oppor- tunity of fixing the scale of its expenditure, its taxation, and of the surplus, if any, which it will apply to the reduction of debt. It may determine, and act upon, the principle, whereby the apportionment of the burden of taxation between present and future times is to be fixed ; and the reason, sometimes urged for maintaining a nominal sinking fund, the preservation of a dormant principle 21 to be hereafter restored to activity, has no force at such a period. I am prepared to admit, further, that an adherence to the name, and forms of the sinking fund, is equally useless and absurd in war, unless the financial arrangements, including that sinking fund, proceed upon a plain and intelligible principle, to which there is at once the possibility and the rigid determination to adhere. You, my Lord, while you deny, with forcible argu- ments, the utility of attempting this ad- herence, refer to past history in proof of the hopelessness of success. We may give, you say, " a visionary permanence to the sinking " fund by law, its useless forms may be con- " tinned, in vain semblance of that which " once was powerful and active, but its vital " spirit we cannot so preserve *." Now, my Lord, I am not satisfied of our inability to preserve, at all times, an active * Essay, p. 13. 22 and salutary principle of finance, founded upon the scheme of which the sinking fund is a part ; I believe that the failures which you relate, as I submit, with much exaggera- tion, originated in the neglect, now sanc- tioned by your Lordship's great authority, of fundamental principles ; I do not despair of an attempt to re-invigorate those principles. In support of this essential difference of opinion, I must now follow your Lordship through your history of the sinking fund. §4. The system under which a perpetual charge is laid upon the country, whenever a defi- cient revenue is supplied by a loan, boasts of rather less antiquity than we commonly suppose. During the reigns of William and Anne, considerable sums were borrowed ; but the annuities created were in general annuities for terms of years, or for lives ; " the principal being to be sunk at the end 23 ** of the term granted, which might be looked " upon as a sinking fund attending these " particular debts *." The exceptions were, the debts to the great companies, and the banker's debt, which, perhaps, as it arose from the fraud of ancestors, it was thought fair to throw in part upon posterity. In most other cases, the duties which con- stituted the fund, whereon each particular loan was charged, were chargeable with the principal as well as the interest of that parti- cular debt. In 1716, the surpluses of all the particular funds, and of other more general funds, into which some of them had been united, were carried, together with some savings effected by the reduction of interest, to a new " Sinking Fund ;" which fund was made applicable to the payment of debts existing on the 25th December, 1716, " and for none other use, intent, or purpose " whatsoever • j •," And it was so applied, with- * Tindal, \\x. 131. t Act 5 Geo. I. cap. 3. sect. 06. 24 out any systematic exception (there were, I believe, some silent encroachments,) during the reign of George L, and the first six years of George II., notwithstanding that within the same period, other debts equal to much more than the half of those redeemed, were paid off by this fund. In 1733, Sir Robert Walpole took half a million from the fund. This measure your lordship ascribes to the sagacity of Walpole who, "outrunning the " wisdom of his contemporaries,'' discovered " the contradiction of increasing debt in the " very moment of professing to reduce it*/' Your lordship is much too good an historian not to have observed the facility with which motives, good or bad, are ascribed to the heroes of history; I must humbly submit that you have furnished a notable instance of the practice. Your argument stood in no need of Walpole's authority ; but there is * Essay, p. 16, 17. 25 really not any ground for believing that he acted upon any higher motive than that which he professed, the desire to relieve the landed interest by voting the land tax at one shill- ing instead of two. He showed reasonable grounds for his suggestion, but did not hint at that which you now imagine for him. He denied peculiar sacredness of character to the measure of 1716; he argued that circum- stances were so much altered, that pubHc creditors were now more afraid of being paid off, than of losing their principal ; that the landed gentlemen desired and deserved relief*. Of a loan, there was no question. Walpole, indeed, so far from adopting the objection urged against the sinking fund, as operating at a time when new debts were incurred, had, a few years before, laid before the king a re- presentation from the House of Commons, in which that objection was over-ruled -f, * Pari. Hist, viii., 1200, 1, 5, 6. t Representation of the Conitnons to tlie Kinfi, April 8, 1728. Pari. Hist, viii., p. 651. 26 Walpole was, I suspect, right in his Hghter estimation of the measure of 1716 ; it was an arrangement of finance, not establishing any new principle, but simply consolidating what had been done, upon a similar principle, in variety and detail : this minister, however, had, himself, recently countenanced the no- tion of the inalienabihty of the fund, when he advised George II/s answer to the Commons' Representation *. Historical illustrations, if used at all, should be accurate and complete ; otherwise, this inquiry concerning Walpole is of no great importance ; but I gladly seize the opportu- nity which your reference to the debates of 1733 affords me of exhibiting, not in Walpole, but in his opponents, some indications of the principle for which it is my great object to * Pari. Hist. viii. 666. — " The provision made for gradually " discharging the National Debt, is now become so certain and " considerable, that nothing but some unforeseen event can alter or " diminish it, which gives us the fairest prospect of seeing the " old debts discharged without any necessity of incurring new." 27 contend. I care not whether it was through the superior sagacity of Sir John Barnard *, and Sir WilUam Wyndham f, or simply from that excitement of party which invokes every argument that can be devised ; but they did urge the just and correct reason against the unrestrained accumulation of debt, when they argued in favour of the redemption, not for the benefit of the creditors, but rather for the sake of their ov/n children, and, more parti- cularly, of the future owners of their lands. These arguments were unsuccessful in 1733 ; they will probably fail in 1828 : but I thank you for the opportunity of citing high parliamentary authority, in support of one of my favourite positions. I cannot concur with your lordship, in as- cribing to the deliberate judgment of " some of our best and wisest statesmen," the absence, for the next forty years, of any systematic plan for the reduction of debt. It is indeed * p. 1206. t P. 1209. 28 true that successive ministers " did not show " much solicitude to increase the taxation of " their country for the purpose of providing it " with a surplus ; and that their reductions of '* debt were principally, though not wholly, " effected by the falling in of annuities, and " by the diminutions successively made in the " rate of interest on the public securities, by " tenders of repayment*." In other words, they took the advantage afforded to them by the provident limitations of their forefathers ; they readily availed themselves of any op- portunity which the state of the public secu- rities furnished, for relieving themselves from the burden of taxes ; and they borrowed without scruple, and without any definite limitation, all that they wanted in war, some- times too in peace ; taking little heed of the future, making no provision for the redemp- tion of debt, and, in the last instance, the American war, providing very insufficiently * Essay, p. 17, IB. 29 even for its interest. Is this the example which you recommend for imitation ? It did not require the fanciful calculations of Dr. Price, to convince the just and prudent minister of 1786, that this system, or rather these practices, of finance, were not worthy of his country, or of his fame. I will not exaggerate Mr. Pitt's merit in the restoration of the finances after the American war ; his measures were highly judicious, and greatly assisted the elastic tendency to recover from distress, which this free country has always developed. My object is to explain the system of finance which Mr. Pitt adopted, so soon as these co-ope- rating causes had produced a surplus of re- venue. I am sorry to say, that even your lordship stands in need of this explanation ; still more, those, who are familiar only with the complicated transactions of later years. 30 §5. Mr. Pitt, in applying to the existing debt, his fund of redemption, which he fixed at one miUion, could find no rule either in law or in history, for its apportionment between one period or generation, and another. It was ob- vious, that unless a considerable burden were borne by the people then existing, no mate- rial reduction could be effected. But it was neither reasonable, nor necessary, that the burden should be continued, without any relief, until the whole debt should be extinguished. Your lordship considers the measure of limi- tation, as " a wise precaution, showing an " early and just apprehension of the evils " since felt from an opposite policy*." As indefinite accumulation has at no subsequent time been our policy, I know not to what period you refer. I attempt not to define the exact motives * Preface, p. ix. 31 of Mr. Pitt*s decision, but he appears to have determined that the fund should operate without producing any direct rehef, during the period which is usually assigned to a human generation. He did not fix the num- ber of years, but he calculated the amount which the fund would reach in about twenty- eight years. Within this period, the savings effected by the annual application of the fund, were to be applied, together with the original fund, to the reduction of debt. After- wards, the fund, as it would then stand, was to be applied to the reduction of debt ; the annual savings were to be disposable for cur- rent services, for the repeal of taxes, or otherwise as parliament might direct. Ex- pressing the same thing in other words, for the sake of a brevity which is quite intelli- gible, I might say that, during the first period, the fund was to accumulate at compound in- terest ; during the second, at simple interest. " The application," as j^ou truly observe, 32 " of compound interest to the institution of " a sinking fund, consists in adding to the " income of the sinking fund the annuities " which that fund successively redeems/' — " A system of simple interest leaves them " applicable to the repeal of taxation, or to *' the exigency of any other service*.'* All this, my lord, is as simple as it is just ; neither Mr. Pitt, nor any other sensible man, ever viewed the operation of compound in- terest in any other light. I have no doubt, but that much of the nonsense to which you allude, as to the magic of compound interest, has been talked in provincial towns ; but its refutation really did not deserve a whole section of your Essay ! But you object to the term " interest,'^ as applied to the annuity saved to the state by the purchase of its own debtf . Assuming that it was desirable to secure the appropri- ation, I cannot agree with your lordship in * Essay, ]). 51. t P- ^^- 33 deeming this a perfectly useless fiction. As- suredly, an account might have been kept of the savings effected, and a direction might have been given to add an equal amount to the sum annually paid to the commissioners. It was believed, that by making the issue of these amounts quite a matter of course with the ofiicers of the exchequer and the bank, without any intervention of parliament, or even of the treasury, the strict appropriation would be more effectually secured. I am satisfied that this effect was produced, or materially aided by this cause. For more than a quarter of a century the fund ope- rated without encroachment. We are not now considering the advantage derived from the appropriation, but the efficacy of the devices for securing it. I cannot but be- lieve, that the alienation of the sinking fund, and especially the appropriation of the an- nual savings to any other purpose, was made much more difficult to the minds of parlia- 34 ments and ministers, than it would have been under another system. Indeed, much that is said, as to the delusion practised under the system of the sinking fund, furnishes proof of this position. " The nation'' did not see that it " was the true owner of these annu- ities;" and, therefore, left them in the hands of the commissioners. But I leave this, which is, in truth, a merely formal part of our inquiry. It may be possible to have, and strictly to appropriate, a sinking fund, with- out the machinery which has become so offensive. I have stated, that in former wars, inade- quate provision had been made for the charge occasioned by new loans. To ensure suffi- ciency in future, was an important provision of Mr. Pitt's system of finance. This it was impossible to effect prospectively ; the pro- vision must necessarily be made by the par- liament of the time : it was only by requiring full and distinct accounts,first of the revenues applicable to the existing charge ; and, se- condly, of the specific revenue raised for the purpose of defraying each new charge as it might be created, that he could in any de- gree ensure the adequacy of the revenue, and the reahty of the surplus. Any deficiency would thus instantly become apparent, and it was assuredly a part of the system that it should be immediately supplied. It was also Mr. Pitt's object, and his endeavour, to pro- vide, if possible, by sums raised either within the year, or within a period of a few years, for extraordinary expenses, occasioned by arma- ments or other political measures ; upon this principle he acted for the few years which intervened between the first establishment of the sinking fund, and the measure of 1792, to which I now request your lordship's atten- tion. This measure is founded upon the doctrine which I have maintained, as to indefinite mortgages of the resources of the state. It fixes a limit, beyond which no mortgage is I) 2 3a to extend. It authorizes the creation of an annuity for any period not exceeding forty- five years, without any fund of redemption ; but requires that provision shall be made, for redeeming within that period, any an- nuity for a longer term, or any perpetual an- nuity, which may be created on account of any new debt. If no provision for this pur- pose be made by parliament, it directs the appropriation of a sinking fund, of one per cent., which is calculated to effect the re- demption within the period limited. This appropriated fund is part of the additional charge attending a new loan, for which a se- parate and sufficient revenue is, according to Mr. Pitt's system, to be provided. The period of forty -five years, was arbitra- rily chosen ; probably because it was the esti- mated period for the extinction of debt by a sinking fund, equal to one hundredth part of the capital. A longer or a shorter period would have been equally reasonable; but 37 it was essential to the principle to fix some limit, which should not be transgressed. You will observe, that according to this system, there would be no new financial arrangement at the end of a war, unless the peace establishment should go beyond its antecedent rate: — taxes imposed for carry- ing on the war, would cease ; taxes laid on in consequence of the loans, would remain, including within themselves the power of extinction within a period of moderate extent. This then, my Lord, was the simple and intelligible system of Mr. Pitt ; and I would almost venture again to ask your Lordship, whether if, instead of a sinking fund, a posi- tive limitation could have been prescribed, for the term of annuities charged upon the revenues, the system would not have been, even in your view, prudent, just, and prac- ticable. 38 And I would also ask you whether it would not have been, even with the sinking fund, omitting, if you please, the machinery, a system in all respects expedient in time of peace. I would ask you, still further, whether, even if it were admitted, and known before-hand that, in war, the plan of reduction must be suspended, it would not be advisable to esta- blish and maintain this whole system in time of peace : the system being, as I will again state it still more briefly, always to maintain a revenue sufficient for all per- manent charges and ordinary expenses, with a moderate surplus applied to the payment of old debts ; and not to anticipate future revenue for more than forty-five years. §6. I NOW advert to the alleged " inefficacy of " sinking funds operating in war." At the 39 first introduction of the plan of 1786, Mr. Pitt had not perceived any anomaly in the process of borrowing and paying debt at the same time. Perhaps, indeed, he had not contemplated the case. Mr. Fox saw the difficulty, and Mr. Pitt readily adopted his suggested remedy. This was the clause, so often mentioned of late years, for enabling the state, in time of war, to avail itself of the amount of the sinking fund, without departing from the plan. Mr. Fox's clause authorized the commissioners to place themselves in the situation of the loan contractors. Instead of old stock in exchange for their money, they were to receive a portion of the new stock, created as the consideration for the loan. Under this clause, as applied to the sinking fund of 1786, the effect would have been this ; the loan of the year, instead of the old debt, would have been lessened by the amount of the sinking fund in that year ; the total debt at the end of the year, and the 40 income of the sinking fund, would have re- mained on the same scale, as if the purchases of the sinking fund had proceeded, and the whole sum required had been raised by loan. A simple suspension of the purchases of the sinking fund, would have had the same effect upon the debt ; but the annual income of the fund would not then have been increased, by a sum equal to the interest thereupon. The clause, therefore, was simply a part of the machinery, for securing to the fund its growing income, without a special pro- vision by parliament. In either case, there would have been an increased debt, with a permanent charge, without any provision for the redemption of the excess. But before a war occurred, so as to call this clause into possible operation, the act of 1792 had passed, establishing a new prin- ciple, namely the limitation of forty-five years. Under this act the sinking fund, when applied upon the principle of Mr. Fox's clause 41 to the service of the year, receives not only the interest of the stock newly created and transferred to it, but a nevv^ annual payment of one per cent, upon that stock, as well as upon the stock really created and sold to the contractors. The effect, therefore, is to leave the debt at the same amount at which it would have stood, if the whole loan had been borrowed of the contractors ; that is, greater, by the amount of that loan, than it was at the commencement of the year ; but the por- tion of this new debt nominally transferred to the commissioners, is attended, like all the other portions of it, with a sinking fund, calculated for its redemption in forty-five years. If the sinking fund had been simply sus- pended, it would have lost, as before, its growing income ; and there would have been an equal increase of debt, without any pro- vision for redemption. The sinking fund then, during war, is still, 42 whether Mr. Foxs clause be acted upon, or the purchases proceed, and the loan is increased by their amount, a mere piece of machinery, for preserving the principle ; and in the latter case it certainly may be termed, without inaccuracy, a borrowed sinking fund. But I beg your lordship to observe^ that " the preservation of the principle," is not simply the record of a dormant regulation, not to be enforced until after the war. It is an essential part of the system that the re- venue shall be kept to the full amount of the interest of the debt, whether in the hands of the commissioners or of the stockholders ; and that an additional revenue shall be created, consisting of real surplus beyond ordinary expenditure, sufficient for the redemption of the increased debt, in whatever form the in- crease occurs : so that the due proportion of the burden of this debt shall be borne by those who incur it. Now, all this, I admit, might possibly be 4^ effected, without precisely those formalities which the sinking fund requires ; whether it would be done with more clearness and sim- plicity in the public accounts, I have some doubt ; but I am tenacious not of the form, but of the principle. If I can be assured " that forty-five years shall be the utmost *' limit of time for which the revenues of the " country shall be mortgaged, and that the " provision made for preserving that limit ** shall not be set aside for any temporary *' purpose *," I care not in what mode this great principle is enforced. But it is said that the machinery is expen- sive. There is always, your lordship observes, a profit to the contractor, and, consequently, a loss to the state, when the government goes into the market to purchase and to sell simi- lar and equivalent securities. This observa- * View of the State of the Nation, &c., by T. P. Courtenay, Esq., 1811, p. 30. 44 tion, I presume, you apply only to the prac- tice of the late war, when the purchases of the commissioners went on, at the same time, with the loans, and not to a period in which Mr. Fox's clause is permitted to operate. A refutation of your opinion is therefore super- fluous, with a view to the defence of the sys- tem of which that clause is a part. But it is not certain that the double process has occa- sioned a loss. When Mr. Pitt, how much against his wishes and expectations, no man knows better than your lordship, was led into the war of 1793, and required to raise money by loan, it was his intention, carried so far as to be an- nounced in his budget speech *, to make use of the sinking fund in virtue of the clause. But he was persuaded, and he and all other ministers acted upon the persuasion through- out the war, that the cessation of the pur- * Pari. Hist, xxx-, p. 562—3. 45 chases would lower the market price of the stock which he offered for the loan, more than the diminution of the amount of loan would raise it ; and this was, up to a very late period, the opinion of all the monied men whom Mr. Vansittart consulted, with the sin- gle, but certainly very important, exception of Mr. Ricardo. The question is incapable of demonstration. I am, myself, inclined, with Mr. Grenfell, to the opinion of Ricardo ; but the opposite opinion is by no means absurd. There is nothing fanciful in the supposition, that if a horse dealer, having been in the habit of buying fifty horses annually, at a fair, and paying a good price for them, were sud- denly to discontinue the purchase, and to bring one hundred horses to the same fair for sale, his absence as a purchaser would depreciate the price of horses generally at that fair, more than a reduction of the number, offered for sale, by one half, would 46 raise it. But I do not press this point, be- cause, when arguing for the sinking fund pro- spectively, I may presume that the sale and purchase of stock by government w^ill not again proceed simultaneously. The discontinuance of the double process does not necessarily imply the discontinu- ance of the w^hole system ; not only the diversion of all the revenues, composing the sinking fund, to the current service, but also the failure to make any provision for the redemption of nev^ debt. By this failure, those v^ho borrow and use the money, throw off from themselves the whole weight of the debt; instead of bearing, as under the plan of the sinking fund, a proportion of it, deter- mined by a previous and permanent rule ; which rule requires us to bear, in the first and every year of forty-five, one equal forty- fifth part of the taxation occasioned by ex- traordinary expenses. 47 Now, my Lord, the point upon which I am most anxious to explain myself to your lord- ship is, that this rule involves, not a mere question of machinery, but a principle of action ; I might almost say, a question, not of finance, but of equity ! The rule, in its detail, is arbitrary, and a matter of political arrangement ; in its principle, it concerns the fair dealing of man with man. To conclude upon this part of the subject, " the inefficacy of sinking funds operating in " war:" — I am still inclined to think that the sinking fund, with all its machinery, may usefully be left to operate in time of war, notwithstanding that new loans are raised ; but I should deem myself quite successful in my argument, if I could establish with your lordship, and with those by whom the ques- tion must be decided, this one great point: — that when we supply the deficiency of our own contributions by anticipations of future revenue, we are to limit the duration of our 48 mortgage, and bear, during its continuance, our equal share of the burden. This may be done, notwithstanding that the machinery of the sinking fund be entirely stopped. §7. In considering your first chapter, I have ne- cessarily made many of the remarks which occur on the second, wherein you treat of " The operation and results of our present " sinking fund." If, indeed, I have succeeded in my bold attempt to impute to your lord- ship a misapprehension of the character of the fund, I have already shown the irrele- vancy, to our present argument, of the four propositions which you maintain in this part of your Essay. You state, as preliminaries, that " the two " great objects of the fund are, the increase " of the national wealth, and the reduction «« of the national incumbrances* ; and that, * Essay, p. 24. 49 *' vain and valueless is all which it has ever " done, and all vvrhich it ever could do, for " the advantage of the public * ;" — I answ^er thus. An immediate reduction of incum- brances, (w^ith which, as you elsewhere -f justly say, an increase of wealth is synony- mous) is not the object of the fund. But notwithstanding several legislative deviations from the original plan, and, perhaps, some errors in practice, it has answered that which was its object — lessening, by sacrifices made, in other words, by taxes borne, at an ear- lier period, the incumbrances sustained by the country at a later time. This position re- quires no detail of calculation, nor is it affected by any of those which have been made, (with how much accuracy matters not here) to show that, in the whole course of its existence, the fund has even occasioned a financial loss. It is now enough to refer to the material assistance derived by the public * Essay, p. 20. t p. 31. E 50 finances in 1813, and subsequent years, from the fund, as modified by Mr. Vansittart. Of this use of the sinking fund, you are aware, for you affirm in your first proposi- tion, that " all the direct benefit of which " this establishment can, on the most favour- *' able supposition, have been productive, " consists in its having, from time to time, " placed at the free disposal of the com- " munity, certain portions of annual tax- " ation previously appropriated to the inter- " ests of our public debt*." But secondly, " That all the means by which it has actually " produced this effect have been supplied to *^ it by surplus taxation, levied in excess of " the current expenditure of the state, and " therefore, imposed or continued solely for " this especial purpose.'' In these two propositions I concur; they are, in truth, the very ground-work of my argument ; the object whereof has been to * EsKjiy, p. 20. 51 demonstrate the propriety of leaving this surplus taxation, for the purpose of setting free those portions of taxation previously appropriated. The difference between us arises from your lordship's disregard of this essential circumstance, that the operations described in these two respective proposi- tions, are necessarily separated in point of time. Taxes, for instance, paid in 1800, set free revenue in 1813. I do not affirm that the burden and the relief have been adjusted exactly according to the principles which I have stated ; nor is that a necessary subject of inquiry here. It is enough that taxes imposed and paid at one period have produced relief from taxation at another. §8. I HAVE read more than once the latter part of your observations in support of your first position, without satisfying myself of the E 2 52 object for which they are placed there. You state very correctly, that " our public debt,'' that is, all that we can be required to pay, " consists not in capital, but in annuities*;" that what is called capital '* serves only to *' express the price at which the state may, " at its own convenience, redeem its engage- " mentsf." The only deduction from these acknowledged truths which I find in the chapter is, that no "undue advantage has " accrued to the public creditor, merely from " the needless complication of the form ** which has been given to our loans J;" namely, the form of stock, sometimes greatly exceeding in nominal capital, the money lent. I do not know what is meant by " undue advantage." In a bargain fairly made no- thing can be " undue ;" but if it is meant, that the amount of this nominal capital is a matter of indifference, either to the state or to the loan contractor, I have again the mis- * Essay, p. 29. t p. 31. . + p. 32. 53 fortune to dissent. It is either by the pur- chase of this nominal capital, at the market price, or by an offer to pay off at par, that the state redeems a part of the annuities which it owes. So much of nominal capital at a lower rate of interest per cent, as will yield a given annuity, has a higher marketable value than a smaller capital, which, bearing a higher rate of interest, will yield a similar annuity. The former, therefore, is more popular, so much sO;, that a loan can seldom be procured in the latter, without a consider- able sacrifice of interest. On the other hand, the state is exposed to the probability of having much more to pay for redeeming a similar annuity when funded in stock of the first mentioned description. The question in these cases is, how much heavier a charge for interest is it prudent to incur, for the sake of obtaining money in return for the smaller nominal capital ? The amount of the nominal capital can only be a matter of indifference, 54 if the state never contemplates the reduction of the annuities which it pays, either by pur- chasing the capital, or reducing the interest. There is assuredly a difficulty in bringing into one account capital bearing different rates of interest, nor can any such account be framed for any useful purpose. But really this discussion is out of place. §9. The observations whereby ybur second pro- position is supported, are pervaded by the misconception as to times and persons which I have already explained. " For every por- " tion of previously appropriated wealth " which our sinking fund has placed at the " disposal of the community, it has" not " withdrawn from the same community a *' corresponding portion of wealth previously ** free and unappropriated*/^ It withdrew it from their predecessors. When you ask, * Essay, p, 36, 55 " In what respect is it a more reasonable or " more real operation to^ reduce taxation by " taxing, than to pay debt by borrowing*?'* the point of your epigram is at once blunted by the observation, that the father, in the case supposed, taxes himself now, in order that the debt which he incurs, may not sub- ject the son to accumulated taxation here- after. § 10. You carry with you the same misapprehen- sion, through your third proposition ; " The " reductions of debt thus effected are mere " exchanges of equivalents f." And there are in this section, striking instances of the im- putation of weak and exaggerated represen- tations, to the advocates of the system which you condemn. A purchase of stock in the market is, as- suredly, as all fair purchases are, an exchange of equivalents. In the case before us, the * Essay, p. 37. t il>. 56 cost of the purchase is the result of " super- " added taxation." Is this truth now known for the first time? The only question is, whether it be prudent, at a certain present expense, or expense continued through a certain period, to redeem an annuity charged upon us and our heirs for ever. This ques- tion was once resolved in the affirmative, and the act followed the decision. Some " millions" have been " removed from our *' incumbrances/' To produce this effect, corresponding incumbrances had been for- merly sustained. All this I freely admit to your lordship, if admission can be L;;pplied to " an universal and obvious truism." I also concur with your Lordship, in trying these transactions, " by a reference to similar " transactions in private life." The case is, exactly that of a landed proprietor, who re- deems a mortgage, for the sake of enlarging the disposable income of his heir. He pays for the annuity redeemed, its equivalent value in 57 ready money, and to make this money dispo- sable, he has taxed himself, by the " wealth " withdrawn from direct enjoyment.*" It is possible, if his affection for his son, or a con- sciousness of having incumbered the estate a little too much through his own extrava- gance, render him very highly desirous of liberating the inheritance, that he may even borrow the money, on a life annuity, or an ' insurance of his life. No doubt, if, instead of redeeming the annuity, he had saved the equivalent in a sum of money to be be- queathed to his heir, the effect would be the same. In neither case, is it pretended that the " purchase is" to him, " a matter of " gain." He suffers the privation ; his son derives the equivalent benefit. Whether England was in 1786, or at any other period, or is now, under a like obligation with the landed proprietor, is indifferent in reference to the present object, which is simply to illustrate the reasonableness of redeeming a * Essay, p. 42. 58 perpetual charge, by an equivalent sacrifice, even though the transaction produce no pro- fit to the purchaser himself. Your final remark, under this head, is an objection to the systematic and " invio- <« lable maintenance of a sinking fund, pre- « scribed to itself by a nation, by law, for its " own supposed advantage *." I submit, that if the appropriation be founded upon a principle, it ought to be sys- tematic, and ought, therefore, to be subjected to such sanctions, necessarily liable to be superseded by a new law, as the legislature can provide. Perhaps, if the advantage ex- pected came only to those who from time to time act upon the appropriation, legal sanctions might be more burdensome than useful : but I am certain that, in private life, convenience and comfort are very much con- sulted, by the systematic appropriation of a particular fund or series of receipts, to any distant object which, even without any posi- * Essay, p. 47. 59 tive obligation, an individual is desirous to attain. I do not find one observation, in your section upon the operation of compound in- terest*, which our previous discussion has not anticipated. It certainly enunciates no propositions which I desire to controvert. I admit that Dr. Price was, if the terms be not contradictoiy, an arithmetical enthusiast ; and that compound interest " consists in add- ** ing to the income of the sinking fund, the " annuities which that fund successively re- " deems." It is in that character alone that its application is suggested. § 11. In your third chapterf , wherein you treat " of ** the attempted permanence and repeated " interruption of the system," you state too broadly the necessity of '* long and unvaried " accumulation." Much benefit may arise from a sinking fund, even though its authors * Essay, p. 47. t p- -i^- 60 should be a little too sanguine, or too strict in their anticipations of permanent and un- qualified operation. I cannot admit that the history of Mr. Pitt's sinking fund proves either the inefficacy of his measure, or the hopelessness of any attempt to re-invigorate a sinking fund. If, indeed, the attempt be " to provide for " the true interests of posterity, much better " than posterity itself*," it is likely enough to be defeated; but, here again, I must re- mind your Lordship that, in maintaining a sinking fund, we do not simply recommend to our successors a course of conduct bene- ficial to them, or rather to their successors, but we commence that course ourselves ; and the benefit is felt, by those who come after us, whether they follow in the same track or not. If they are less provident, or less just to their posterity, their disregard of our example will cast no censure, or work any justification, retrospectively, for us. * Essay, p. 59. 61 But your Lordship knows that in using the terms " we'^ and " posterity^' I can draw no accurate line of distinction between the two. The most lengthened operations of our sinking fund, would not exceed the period during which, not unfrequently, the same man has a voice in parliament, and it may have no inconsiderable operation within a period much shorter ; so short, as to render its maintenance a matter of consideration for statesmen who look not beyond the events in which they are themselves to share. .1 § 12. I ADMIT, that *'the expected benefits of a sink- " ing fund at compound interest depend," for their permanence and extent, " on its unva- " ried accumulation," but I deny that those benefits are annihilated by the suspension of that accumulation, or by its cessation before the period originally planned. Let me apply these remarks to your second and third posi- 62 tions on " the provisions adopted for giving " permanence to the sinking fund of 1786*;'* and " the actual failure of these endeavoursf." I have nothing to object to your descrip- tion of these provisions; I have already sufficiently noticed your criticisms upon their technicalities. Assuredly, these were adopted by Mr. Pitt, " in the hope," in my opinion not entirely "groundless," " of their contri- " buting to give permanence to the systemj." And it is somewhat remarkable that Mr. Fox, who had not that taste for financial details which belonged to the minister, appears fully to have joined in this hope : the only amend- ment which he proposed was, the introduc- tion of a new fiction. When you describe it as the aim of these fictions, *' to induce the '* British parliament to act in after times, " in opposition to its own deUberate judg- " ment of what might best promote the public " happiness," and aver that " if they failed of * Essay, p. 60. t p. 65. I p. 62. 63 " this, they did nothing* :" you repeat your error as to the relative bearings of the sink- ing fund upon the present and the future ; and you forget that the "pubHc happiness," as well as the convenience of the government, must at any particular moment, almost neces- sarily be promoted by the diversion of the fund. Surely, knowing the temptation to be strong to depart, for a temporary purpose, from a system of permanent advantage, Mr. Pitt did wisely in throwing the object of temptation as much as possible into shade. Whether similar devices would have the same effect now, I have much doubt ; but I be- lieve that they did tend greatly to the end desired. § 13. But truly, my Lord, there has not been the complete failure which you imagine ; at least, that failure is not demonstrated by the prc- * Essay, p. 64-5. 64 sent circumstances of the sinking fund. I wish, with your lordship, to dwell rather upon principles than upon measures ; but I assure your lordship that, without something more particular than the brief history which you give, we cannot illustrate the principle upon which the question now at issue must be decided. The question is, whether we shall now, in time of peace, adopt any systematic plan for reducing our national debt, or pre- venting its future growth. There is not even, necessarily, now a question, whether our plan shall embrace any period of war which may occur. It is surely not enough for the deci- sion of this question to say that, in a similar time of peace, more than forty years ago, a like plan was adopted, of which, now, scarcely a trace remains ; without adverting at least, to this one little circumstance of detail, that within seven years from the institution of the fund, commenced a war of more than twenty years' duration. Even according to your 65 lordship, if I correctly understand you, every one of the "causes of this failure'' is to be ascribed to *' that long and perilous contest." How then do they demonstrate the impolicy of the institution during peace ? But your Essay does not trace, with exact- ness, the operation of these causes ; in avoid- ing details, it somewhat confounds occur- rences. It is impossible to make good use of the materials of our decision, without a methodical arrangement of facts, as well as of principles : I invite your lordship to accom- pany me while I attempt this arrangement. The sinking fund of 1786, operated with- out disturbance, and without counteraction by war, until the year 1793. In that interval, political events had occasioned some extra- ordinary expenses ; for these, provision was made by the prudent minister of that day, by occasional taxation *. The productiveness of the revenue induced * Rose's Examination, 1792, p. 43. F 66 Mr. Pitt in 1792, when he instituted the new sinking fund, appropriated to each future loan, to make a special grant to the old fund, of one year's clear surplus *. And the fu- ture benefit of this surplus he proposed to divide, giving one half to the fund, and, with the other, repealing taxes. It is singular that Mr. Fox f, the leader of an opposition, pos- sessing great interest in the land, and pre- tending to peculiar sympathy with the people, reproached Mr. Pitt with an unworthy thirst after popularity, because he did not give the whole of the surplus to the fund ! In my opinion, Mr. Pitt's was the wiser decision, especially as the appropriation of one moiety to the redemption of debt was not an absolute, but an annual grant ; so that while, up to a certain point, settled upon a fixed principle, the income of the fund was inalienable ; be- yond that point, it was available in the event * £ 400,000. Pari. Hist, xxix., p. 824. t Pasre 844. 67 of an accidental deficiency. In the instance before us, the amount was small, and the war soon destroyed the surplus ; but the proce- dure is well worthy of imitation. The amount of the sinking fund, at the commencement of the war, was more than one million, six hundred thousand pounds ; consisting, in part, of the grant of parliament, of the interest, in part, saved by the redemp- tion of debt ; but composed, in all its parts, of a real surplus of revenue ; about six hun- dred thousand pounds of that surplus were the result of the operation of the fund itself; or, if you please, for it is in this place exactly the same, of the nation's annual savings. Here was an available sum, of capital, to lessen the amount of the annual loan ; or, of income, whereout the charge of a loan might be provided. The amount was small, but with reference either to the amount of the ■ debt, or to the scale of the expenditure, by no means inconsiderable. As the period du- F 2 68 ring which the taxes, composing this fund, had been levied, was one of unusual prospe- rity, there is no pretence for imputing to them a severity of pressure. I confidently submit that through this, the short, but only period of continued peace, the sinking fund had completely succeeded. Nay, my Lord, I will even venture to ask you, whether, if you could now go back to 1793, or rather to that period of 1792, up to which you retained the hope of peace ; ima- gining yourself and the nation to have been as copiously watered as in these latter years, " from the pure stream of science*," would you stand up among your peers, the heredi- tary possessors of lands and honours, and pro- pose the abrogation of the sinking fund ? Your first chapter would have given me the hope of an affirmative answer; but in that now before me, after enumerating the causes of failure during war, not at this present moment * Essay, p. 50. 69 a question between us, you have wrought yourself (forgive the expression) into a train of reasoning, not only against borrowed sink- ing funds, and against all systematic plans of redemption, even by a real surplus, but almost against payment of debt in any mode whatever. Your arguments, if I see them clearly through the metaphors which occasionally dazzle me, appear to be these : — first, you say that an accumulating fund exacts a pre- sent sacrifice, not only of the taxes which compose the fixed allowance, but of those which defray the purchased, but still conti- nued interests ; and that " for this great, im- " mediate, and increasing evil," the only re- turn offered is, " the hope of a speculative " good, deferred to some indefinite but distant ** period ; and even in its ultimate effect, pro- " ductive of a very questionable and equivo- " cal advantage*." Your deduction is, that * Essay, p. 70. 70 " the rulers of any community in the most " prosperous condition of its finances, ought " to apply themselves to the direct interests " of those whose happiness is their primary " and especial charge ;" in other words, re- peal taxes to the utmost, without any regard to the future. I submit, that in these passages, there are glaring errors, evincing an inaccurate observation of the system which you con- demn. How can it be said that the accu- mulation of the sinking fund is an increasing evil ? It is true that the amount of taxes, applicable to the fund, and, therefore, dis- posable, if the fund be abolished, increases in every successive year ; but it is not true that the amount of taxes of which the sinking fund prevents the repeal, increases continually, or increases at all. If the sinking fund of 1786 had never been created, taxes to the amount of twelve hundred thousand pounds annually might, at some time between 1786 71 and 1793, have been repealed. And if the fund, having been formed, had been abo- lished or suspended at any time within the same period, there might have been re- pealed such an additional amount as was equal to the redeemed interest ; ultimately, more than four hundred thousand pounds. And this continually growing power of repeal- ing taxes your lordship represents as the in- creasing evil of the sinking fund, forgetting that, without that fund, the whole of this amount of four hundred thousand pounds of taxes, must have been borne by the country for all time to come ! An increasing power of effecting a good, you style an increasing evil, because it is not immediately enjoyed. Again, the good, you say, is to be enjoyed at some " indefinite, but distant period." The period is not indefinite, and it is not neces- sarily remote. I will not here re-argue the propriety of assigning a limit to our debt. I will only remind you that the definition of 72 the period, (subject only to variations of price) is the very essence of the system ; and that if at any time within that limit the state is minded to anticipate the period, it may secure a share of the advantage which was ultimately to be enjoyed, proportioned to the duration of its forbearance. But you add that this contemplated advan- tage, available, as you say, at a distant period, available, as I say, at any period of the ope- ration of a sinking fund, is, '^ as we have seen, " very questionable and equivocal *." My Lord, I have looked back, and I cannot find the passage in which you treat the re- peal of taxes, and of that advantage we now speak, as other than a great and certain good ; I look forward, and I come at once upon a passage in which the repeal of taxes is stated as so much the great and advantageous object, that it ought not, on any consideration, not even for the sake of extending its operation. 73 to be postponed by any state which has the power of effecting it. You will probably admit that you have been led too far by the vehemence of argu- ment, when you question even the eventual advantage to flow from the sinking fund. But, you say, in reference to benefits to be realized hereafter, that " an earlier, although " more gradual, repeal of taxes would spread " its benefits in a thousand fertilising chan- " nels, over the wide field of social industry ; " and never could its absence be compen- " sated by any forced direction given, after a " dreary vacancy, to the produce of the same " sources, pent up till it bursts these artificial " barriers *." I am not sure that I have caught the meaning contained in this metaphorical pas- sage. The question is, between repealing, at once, an amount of taxes equal to an ex- isting surplus of annual revenue, and letting * Pase 71. 74 that surplus operate annually in the diminu- tion of charge ; and then, at some future period, whether previously fixed or not, is of no importance here, repealing taxes equal to the surplus and saving. The first alternative w^hich your metaphor contemplates, is an earlier, but it is not a gradual repeal. That epithet is calculated to mislead us. Your suggestion really is to disperse, at once, among the community, the whole amount which is not wanted at the exchequer; in the hope, as I presume, that the increase of wealth thus occasioned, will either augment, at a future period, the produce of existing taxes, or furnish resources for additional tax- ation. It is only under this construction that your reasoning can have any practical bear- ing upon the question. I am well aware of the distrust, with which an argument in palliation of the effect of taxes is received, especially when it proceeds from an official man ; but I cannot do justice • 75 to the question between us, without avowing the opinion, that the effect of taxes, upon the wealth of a nation, is usually much over- rated. Taxation varies the distribution of wealth ; it circulates it in different channels ; but I know not the principle on which it is maintained that, in the channels into which it is thus circulated, it conduces less to the general prosperity. But whatever be the effect of taxes upon the national wealth, they assuredly occasion much individual discomfort, and almost every man rejoices at their reduction. And upon two points there is scarcely a difference of opinion. First, that the effect of a repeal of taxes, that is, of taxes upon consumption, which comprise the greater part of English revenue, is not always felt by the community at large, in due proportion to the diminution of public income. And this observation is more strikingly just, when applied to the re- duction only, not the abrogation of a parti- 76 cular tax. Secondly, the re-imposition of an old, or the imposition of a new tax, is felt much more severely, both by consumers and traders, than the continuance of one which exists. It follows, that where there is any proba- bility, — and when is there not? — that poli- tical or financial occurrences will require, at no very distant ^period, an augmentation of revenue, a government which possesses a sur- plus will consult the convenience and happi- ness of its subjects most, by so disposing it as to avert the probability of renewed taxa- tion. I therefore confidently submit, that, without any regard to the interests of the next generation, still less of distant posterity, there is wisdom, and kind consideration for the people, in applying a surplus, or a part of it, to a sinking fund. I say, or a part of it, because it is no inconsiderable circum- stance that, within a period of moderate duration, a moiety applied to the sinking 77 fund will effect as much direct relief, as the whole dispersed at once. If then, my Lord, the expected effect of your fertilising channels is, not the actual augmentation of revenue, but the enlarge- ment of resources to be drawn hereafter from the people by fresh taxation, I am satisfied that, even if your speculation be correct, you estimate wrongly its operation upon the public happiness. I am well aware that the reduction of duty often increases the consumption of the par- ticular article relieved, and even of others ; to the great increase of individual comfort, and sometimes without loss of revenue ; this truth ought always to be in the mind of a minister of finance. If the diminution of duty be compensated by the increased con- sumption, it is a mere financial arrangement, not a question of surplus. It may certainly sometimes be prudent to postpone the appro- priation of surplus, in order to give time for 78 the trial of the experiment, in any particular direction. If you giveaway your actual sur- plus, and your experiment then fails, you are without resource, except in fresh taxation ; if you apply it to a sinking fund, you have in your hands the means of repairing the loss. According to my principle, I should certainly be unwilling to make this use of a sinking fund, especially in time of peace ; it is pos- sible to preserve at once the principle and the immediate benefit ; but all that I would now urge upon your Lordship is, that if we look to the possibility of war occurring in our own times, nay, if we look even be- yond one single year, we shall disregard your Lordship's counsel to cast away the surplus which reviving prosperity may afford to us. To return now to the history of actual occurrences ; I contend that Mr. Pitt's sink- ing fund, so long as peace continued, pro- duced an unequivocal and substantial good. 79 The extent of the advantage was limited, by the return of war ; an event so completely unexpected, that, in the very year preceding, our military force had been reduced. De- tailed figures are not necessary to show how much the benefit would have been enlarged if peace had continued ; I am satisfied that if it had lasted only to the end of the cen- tury, not a man in England would now doubt of the wisdom of Mr. Pitt's system, or listen to Lord Grenville's exhortation to renounce it. § 14. But I now, at your Lordship's invitation, consider the actual operation of the system during the far different circumstances pro- duced by war. Under these, you say, " it " compelled us to heap loans upon loans, and " taxes upon taxes, in a series of unlimited " accumulation ;" — " it increased the defi- " ciency of the revenue, by the full amount " to which its operations were carried." — 80 '* Its whole amount, all its fixed allowances, *' all the redeemed annuities, and all the " pretended accumulations of interest by " which they are increased, served only to " swell the long schedule of taxation." — " In " addition to the war loans, we had sinking " fund loans, rapidly increasing, and ulti- " mately of very large amount." — " To the " new charge of interest created by the for- " mer, a further and similar charge was " superadded by the latter." — " To neither " of these new services were the annuities to <* be redeemed by this increasing fund at all " available ; both were to be met always by " fresh taxes *." No wonder indeed, if the ills of which you give this long catalogue, convinced parlia- ment that the system had failed, and led to its ultimate suspension ! But your representation of facts, my lord, I am compelled to observe, is, in some parts, ♦ Essay, pp. 72, 3, 4. 81 greatly exaggerated, in others, wholly in- correct. In order to estimate the effect of the sink- 4 ing fund, we must consider what would have been the operations of finance if your lord- ship had, in 1786, outrun the wisdom of your contemporaries, over-ruled the prejudices of Mr. Pitt, and persuaded him to follow the advice which you now give. Let us see, what would have been the variations from the actual state of the national account on one side and the other. I will go no further at present than the year 1802, because in that year the first war terminated, and the first alteration was made in Mr. Pitt's sink- ing fund ; and in the course of the subse- quent war, the fund underwent a second, and still more material alteration. If, then, there had been no sinking fund, the surplus of twelve hundred thousand pounds would have been dispersed, by the repeal of taxes ; by that amount the revenue 82 applicable to the permanent charges of the state, in technical language, the income of the consolidated fund*, would have been di- minished; — on the other hand, the charge upon that fund would have been diminished by the amount of the fixed allowance to the sinking fund of 1786 ; so far, then, the ac- count is not affected by the system of 1786 ; — the deficiency was not increased, nor any necessity created for an additional loan: taxes certainly were continued; no fresh taxes imposed. But under the act of 1792, a fixed allow- ance of one per cent, upon the capital of every new loan was added to the sinking- fund, whereby the charge upon the consoli- dated fund was annually increased ; to defray this charge, which progressively increased from about sixty thousand pounds to two millions and a half annually, new and sufR- * To be strictly accurate, I must observe that ,£200,000 of this fixed allowance formed a part of the annual supply ; but as it was invariably voted, the distinction is merely technical. 83 cient taxes were imposed. The deficiency, and the amount of the loans, were not directly affected by this part of the operation, any more than by the former. In addition to these fixed allowances, the sinking fund received the several amounts of the annuity redeemed ; that is, of interest upon the stock purchased by the sinking fund. For these amounts no new charge was laid upon the consolidated fund; they were the result of the operations of the sinking fund itself, but for that institution, they would have remained the property of individuals. Through this part, therefore, of the operation again, the national account was not affected ; the deficiency was not aug- mented, no additional loan was required, nor was any tax either imposed or continued- The result of the whole is, that if we had had no sinking fund in the war of 1793, we should have had at our disposal, the surplus of twelve hundred thousand pounds, provided G 2 84 that we chose to revive, and again impose, the repealed taxes, to that amount; and, suppos- ing also that w^e had determined to impose in every year taxes to the amount of the one per cent., we should have had those several amounts disposable, either to defray the charge of loans, or for current services. If they had been applied to current ser- vices, the loan of each year might have been diminished; that of 1793, by sixty thousand pounds ; that of 1801, by two mil- lions and a half ; those of the other years by various intermediate sums. To this extent you are correct, in ascrib- ing to the sinking fund the origination of loans ; it did not divert or appropriate to itself a single amount of capital raised by loan, or of income raised by previous tax- ation ; but it did occasion the maintenance, and the creation, of revenues, which might have been revived, or created, with a view of diminishing the loans. You forget, 85 that for every addition thus occasioned to the loans, a former amount of debt was re- deemed, so that although the sum annually borrowed was increased, no addition was made to the debt. I know, my Lord, how widely this state- ment differs from some which have been over and over again made in parliament, and supported by a formidable array of figures ; as well as from your lordship's more pointed and forcible statement. It is, however, ex- actly conformably in substance, though it differs in expression, with that of Dr. Hamil- ton, whom your lordship, like some others, mistakingly supposes to have placed in a new light, the operation of the sinking fund. Again then, my Lord, I take my stand with Mr. Pitt, and I confidently submit that he had a right, in 1802, to look back with pride at the working of his system. He had adhered to it in all its parts. He had maintained at more than its origi- 86 nal amount, the revenue which existed before the war ; he had made an adequate provi- sion for all the new charges which the war had occasioned. He had made provision for the redemption within the limited period of forty-five years from the origin of each loan, of the whole debt which he had created ; he had borne the share in this redemption which that limitation prescribed; and he had les- sened by the millions, which his sinking- fund had purchased before the war, as well as by war taxes, unknown to his immediate predecessors, the amount to which the debt would otherwise have increased. Had peace been then maintained, upon the scale of expense of the former peace, inde- pendently of any permanent charge arising out of the war, there would have been a clear surplus of revenue, over and above the sink- ing fund. That fund amounted to five millions eight hundred thousand pounds. If it had been deemed advisable, at that moment, to 8T put an end to the fund, in order that that large annual revenue might be disposable, that very measure would have been a proof, not of the failure but of the beneficial operation of the plan. This considerable income was, no doubt, the result of taxation, and taxation might, by other modes of proceeding, have raised a similar revenue ; but by none, I will venture to say, of such easy and inoffensive operation upon the people. Indeed, the hitherto easy pressure of the system was pretty clearly demonstrated, by the imposi- tion of extensive and productive taxes in the succeeding years. I must here observe, that it is possible that an additional revenue might have been neces- sary, even though the war had not been re- newed ; this necessity is rfeferrible to a cir- cumstance, for which Mr. Pitt's system had not, and could not have, specially provided ; the tendency of the ordinary expenditure, during a war, to exceed that which preceded 88 the war. It cannot now be ascertained whe- ther the increased revenue would have met this new charge ; according to the estimates of the period, it would have been more than adequate. It is obvious that a sinking fund, or any system which requires the imposition of taxes during war, beyond the amount re- quired as interest on the loans, affords a ready method of meeting this increased expendi- ture; if, contrary to the fact of 1802, other means are wanting. But I will again pause to ask your lord- ship, whether, if you could now go back to the peace of Amiens, either with or without a more favourable opinion of its duration than that which you entertained, and which the event justified, you would, on reviewing its operation both in peace and in war, counsel, at that period of peace, the abro- gation of the sinking fund, or its diversion from the object of its institution? 89 § 15. I MUST now call your attention to a modi- fication, which the sinking fund did undergo in 1802, which has occasioned much of the prevalent misconception of its nature. We have already seen that Mr. Pitt's sinking fund of 1786 was to operate, for one period at compound interest, afterwards at simple interest, until the whole of the old debt should be redeemed. The several smaller sinking funds created under the act of 1792, were to operate at compound interest, each by itself, until its particular loan should be discharged. In 1802, the old sinking fund had ap- proached, within six or seven years, the period at which it would operate at simple interest ; from that time the finances would have derived an annual progressive relief of about two hundred thousand pounds, for about thirty years. The relief occasioned by the separate sinking funds was computed 90 to commence in about twenty years ; from which period it would operate very irregu- larly, but very extensively, through a period of rather more than thirty years. These calculations are subject to much variation ; but the truth is, that a mistake of even ten years or more, is of no importance. That which I wish to impress upon your lordship is, how much you are mistaken in speaking of Mr. Pitt's fund as " never to be " made available to any present uses of the " state, — no, not in its utmost necessities, " but continually to be augmented for the " benefit of some remote posterity*." Mr. Addington, in 1802, certainly with the full concurrence of Mr. Pitt, repealed all the provisions whereby any relief was to be de- rived from any part of the sinking fund, until the whole existing debt should be discharged, a transaction estimated to be completed in about forty-three years. By thus appro- priating to the fund prospectively, large * Essay, p. 75. 91 amounts of revenue which would otherwise have been available to the state, he accele- rated the period in which the total debt would be extinguished, and assuredly did not infringe the principle of the sinking fund, in reference to the limitation of the national mortgage ; but, by greatly deferring the period at which the fund would begin to operate, visibly and intelligibly, to the relief of the people, so as to authorise the repeal of taxes during peace, or the abstinence from fresh taxation, if it should occur during war, he did as much, practically, to bring the sys- tem into discredit, as if he had invaded or diverted it. May I be permitted to add, that I held and expressed this opinion at the time * ? I never formed one which experience more amply justified. * " Observations on the Present State of the Finances, 1803." I take this opportunity of mentioning, in reference to this and other parts of my letter, that I have purposely omitted several details, which would be necessary to a complete history of finance, but have no important bearing upon the present question. 92 § 16. The war recommenced in 1803 ; the old sinking fund proceeded, and as the act of 1802, had not affected future loans, new sink- ing funds of one per cent, were created. The amount of the loans, however, was much diminished by the very judicious and ener- getic resolution of Mr. Addington, (acting, I believe I may say, under the advice, and certainly with the assistance, of Mr. Vansit- tart*,) a resolution adopted and extended by Mr. Pitt, and by your Lordship, to raise a large proportion of the supplies within each year. This system proceeded without mo- * I perform a very agreeable duty, in bearing testimony to the judgment and vigour of the measures whereby Mr. Vansit- tart, now Lord Bexley, augmented, on this, and on other occa- sions, the revenue of the state ; and I am more particularly desirous of adverting to the present measure of raising a large sum within the year by war taxes, because I did express an ap- prehension, that he proceeded too far. I am now satisfied that, although (as usually happens) the revenue was not at once aug- mented to the extent of the increased taxation, the measure of 1803 was judicious and successful. 93 dification for the first four years of the war. I shall not dwell upon the proceedmgs of 1807, because I am determined to avoid per- sonal argument ; it is enough to say that, in that year, a portion of the war taxes was mort- gaged for about fourteen years, a measure strictly within the principle of 1792 ; and that in the following years, other portions were made permanent by Mr. Perceval, and charged with the interest, and corresponding sinking fund, of new loans. It is quite unfair, in my opinion, to object to these measures, as encroachments on the sinking fund*, or departures from its system. They were, in fact, modifications, occasioned by the in- creasing pressure of the war, of measures which were an improvement upon that system. § 17. But in 1813, a second alteration was made in * See Mr, Ricardo's article in the Encyclopedia Britannica, cited in the Essay, p. 66. 94 the sinking fund, which, though very intelU- gible in its first principle, being very full of details, has tended, if I may so express my- self, greatly to mystify the subject; and I am satisfied that your lordship has not care- fully considered it. Its avowed and leading object was to cor- rect the error of 1802, by restoring to the sinking fund, its principle of gradual relief. There were, in my opinion, several objec- tionable points in the mode in which this object was effected: two I will particularly mention. First, the remedy was applied to a part which was not affected by the dis- ease ; in my opinion, if the correction had been applied only to the sinking fund of 1802, the measure would have strengthened instead of impairing, as I am convinced it has, the principle of the sinking fund. Se- condly, the principle of self-operation was destroyed, by leaving parliament to fix, from time to time, the amount of the 95 relief which (always under the limitation which the new, or revived, principle esta- blished) the country should derive from the fund. According to the old principle, the revenue set free should no longer have been issued by the commissioners, and would have occasioned an immediate diminution of charge upon the consolidated fund, and consequent increase of the surplus. The necessity of the interference of par- liament in every instance, gave to each the character of an encroachment upon the sink- ing fund, which has led others as well as your Lordship, into error. Disapproving for these and other reasons, of the measure of 1813, I cannot think you justified in deeming it a violent breach of the barriers * of the institu- tion, and an evidence of the failure of the whole plan. Your remark that " too much was attempted -f ," is just when applied to the measure of 1802 ; but it is not just as to the * Essay, p. 6-1 . t P- 74. 96 original system ; which the plan of 1813 pro- fessed to revive, by restoring to the establish- ment that which, though certainly overlooked by your lordship, was truly, " of its very " essence," a principle of gradual relief. Now, my Lord, I must again invite you to look back, and review the operation of the sinking fund, up to the period which we are now considering, the first at which it was so relaxed, as to afford present relief. The sinking fund now amounted to thirteen millions ; of which rather more than six mil- lions and a half consisted of fixed allowances ; the remainder of the redeemed interest. Cer- tainly, although the sinking fund had never existed, an amount of taxes gradually rising from twelve hundred thousand pounds, to thirteen millions, might have been applied to the current service. And if those sums had been raised in war taxes, they would have constituted a fund, whereon the interest of loans might have been charged, just as they 97 were charged after the year 1813 upon the sinking fund. The great benefit which the parliament and people of 1813 derived from the sinking fund, consisted in the obligation which its existence had imposed upon pre- ceding parliaments to create the surplus re- venue, instead of borrowing the amount upon a perpetuity*. Actual, arithmetical gain, there was assuredly none ; financial and poli- tical convenience, in my opinion, much. I cannot allow that, in 1813, the institu- tion could be justly styled inefficient ; or one which had consulted only the interests of re- mote posterity. Between 1813 and 1822, Mr. Vansittart's measure placed at the disposal of parliament, an annual income of nearly ten millions -f . * " The sinking: fund has had a real effect in calHnj? forth ex- " ertions which, although they might have been made as well " and as effectually, would not have been made, unless to follow " out the line which that system required."— " If the sinking •• fund had not been in view, it is likely that taxes would have " been imposed for the interest only." — Hamilton, p. 153. t Commons' Journals, LXXVII. 792. 98 During the latter years of the war, when the great and successful efforts were made for accomplishing that for which the country had fought so long and so bravely, there were raised upon this annual fund, the greater por- tion of the immense sums, which those efforts required. For the present purpose, it is no matter whether this was effected by a restora- tion, or by a subversion, of Mr. Pitt's principle. Further loans were raised in the same way, during the following years of peace ; and thus the income of the sinking fund, within nine years, stood in the place of ten millions of new taxes. If, then, the sinking fund be considered as having expired under Mr. Vansittart's opera- tions, it will be allowed to have made one of those vigorous efforts, which sometimes im- mediately precede death. For a testimony of its living merits, let me refer you to one who witnessed, with no ordinary powers of obser- vation, its existence and its decease. " An " efficient sinking fund, in the opinion of 99 " many gentlemen who sat near him, could " not exist at the same period that we were " increasing our debt. In that position he " did not coincide. He thought, for instance, " that when Mr. Pitt first established a sink- " ing fund, and although, during a consider- " able portion of his subsequent life, the " country was engaged in foreign wars, by " the enormous expense of which the debt " was increased in a far greater propor- " tion than the sinking fund paid it off; yet " that, in effect, we then always had a sink- " ing fund. Of every loan that was borrowed " to meet those vast expenses, Mr. Pitt pro- " vided for the interest, and reserved a fund " of one per cent, for the extinction. Un- *' doubtedly, an incredible weight was added *' to the debt by the protracted war that en- " sued ; but what would have been the situa- " tion of the country, had she sooner eflfected *' a peace ? All those loans which had been ** borrowed in war time, would have been H 2 100 " provided for, and there would have been " left an efficient sinking fund. Had this ** system been adhered to during the whole " progress of the war, he would have been " the last man to raise his voice against the ** sinking fund *." These are the words of Ricardo ; and I might rest upon them alone an argument for restoring the sinking fund. § 18. After war had been terminated, and its ex- penses defrayed, it certainly did behove par- liament to replace the finances upon the safe and plain ground on which the war had found them ; and I admit that this process might have been sooner and more judiciously con- ducted. Of the steps taken towards this con- clusion a slight sketch is sufficient. Nothing permanent was attempted, until the year 1819. The object was, after fully discharging all expenses of the war, and re- * Pari. Deb., New Series, VIII. 316. 101 ducing the floating debt to a convenient size, to secure a revenue sufficient, according to its average produce, to cover all permanent and ordinary expenses, including a provision for the redemption of the funded debt. A strict adherence to the law of the sinking fund, even as it was modified and relaxed in 1813, would have required a great temporary- increase of taxes ; great, because the nominal amount of the sinking fund was even then fifteen millions and a half, and the estimated surplus of revenue not more than two ; tem- porary, because the operation of the law of 1813, would have afforded considerable and periodical relief. This taxation would not have been required, if the taxes which ex- isted at the end of the war, had been con- tinued ; for there had already been a repeal of taxes to the amount of nearly nineteen millions* ; composed, no doubt, principally of taxes specially destined for the war ex- penditure. * Mr. Robinson's Budj^et speech, 18-26, Appendix IV. 102 It was determined to have a real surplus of five millions *, v\^ith vi^hich view three mil- lions of new taxes were imposed. No altera- tion was made in the law of the sinking fund ; its nominal amount continued far to exceed the balance of free revenue, and there was now, as I conceive, a manifest departure from the principles of Mr. Pitt, and from those which I have humbly submitted as essential to a sinking fund in time of peace ; from this period, and until the year 1823, the operose transactions of the sinking fund were justly exposed to criticism and ridicule. The ma- chinery was now inefficient, even for se- curing an appropriation, or preserving a prin- * " Resolved, That to provide for the exigencies of the " public service, to make such progressive reduction of the Na- " tional Debt as may adequately support public credit, and to " afford to the country a prospect of future relief from a part of " its present burdens, it is absolutely necessary that there should " be a clear surplus of the income of the country, beyond the " expenditure, of not less than five millions ; and that with a " view to the attainment of this important object, it is expedient " now to increase the income of the country, by the imposition " of taxes, to the amount of three millions per annum." — Com- mom'' Journah. LXXIV. 509. 103 ciple. Nevertheless it was not until the year 1823*, that parliament reduced the nominal sinking fund, to the level of the actual or in- tended surplus. In the interval, Mr. Fox's clause v^as brought into operation, so that * *' Your committee cannot quit this part of the subject re- " ferred to them, without calUng the attention of the House to " the advantages which would be derived, not only in respect of " a simphfication of accounts, but also in respect to considera- " tions of still more importance, from a review of the present "■ system upon which the application of the sinking fiind is con- " ducted. " It might not be expedient, during the continuance of the " war, and until the experience of several years of peace had " placed the revenue and expenditure of the country, upon a " footing not likely materially to be varied, to attempt a revisal " of the administration of the system, adopted for the reduction " of the National Debt ; but it seems now advisable, that the sum " appropriated for that purpose, should be limited to the amount " really intended to be applied to the discharge of debt, and " which can be afforded from an actual excess of revenue above " the expenditure of the country. " The opinion of the House upon this subject may be con- " sidered as expressed in their resolution of the 8th June, 1819; " and your committee submit, that, at an early period in the en- " suing session, measures should be proposed for reducing the " amount of the nominal sinking fund, upon the principles of the " said resolution, and for discontinuing the practice of applying " any part of it to the public service, in the form now become " customary, of an annual loan." — Report from the Hdvct Coin- millec on Public Accounts, July 31, 1822, p, 10. 104 the more considerable portion of the fund was lent to the public for current expenses : the greater part of the interest and sinking fund being charged upon the fund itself, under the act of 1813, But even the surplus of five millions has not been constantly realized, since the deter- mination of 1819. This deficiency is ov^^ing to the great reduction of taxes ; amounting, nearly, to eleven millions and a half, while the decrease of charge by the reduction of the interest on the five and four per cent, stocks, is under two millions. Although, therefore, the five millions have been regu- larly paid to the commissioners, they have not been the result of a permanent surplus, but have been obtained, in part, through casual receipts ; and, since 1823, by what is whimsically called " the deadweight arrange- ment," to which, as being intimately con- nected with the principle of the sinking fund, and being very little understood, I must request your Lordship's attention. 105 If the sinking fund had continued on its original plan, or on the plan of 1813, the arrangement would, in my opinion, have been both justifiable and expedient. We all ad- mit that, for the extraordinary expenses of a war, we may reasonably borrow ; your lord- ship says, on a perpetuity, Mr. Pitt said, on an annuity of forty-five years. Now, the charges which are the object of this arrange- ment, arise strictly and truly out of the war, although, from their nature, being pensions arid allowances enduring for the lives of indi- viduals, they are not paid at once, but con- stitute, so long as they endure, an annual charge (or dead weight) quite unconnected with the current expenses of the state. If they could have been discharged at once, in single payments, which might, perhaps, have amounted to twenty or thirty millions, I ap- prehend that there would not have been in practice, and certainly not in principle, any objection to raising that sum by loan 106 charged upon the permanent revenue, with the required sinking fund, for discharging it in forty-five years. As this could not easily be done, the revenues of forty-five coming years are charged v^^ith such an annuity, as will spread equally over that whole period, the autho- rised limit of a national mortgage, the whole expense of these war payments ; which would otherwise press very unequally and severely on the earlier years. By the sale of that annuity, those unequal annual sums are to be raised, while the pressure upon the public is equal in every year. This equalization is not less reasonable in itself, than it is consistent with the principle for which I have humbly contended ; but it is quite inconsistent with the resolution of 1819, discarding, or at least suspending, the principle of forty-five years, and affirming the necessity of " a clear surplus of the " income of the country beyond the ex- 107 " penditure, of not less than five mil- lions*." If our sinking fund now stood upon a prin- cijple, we might justify the " dead weight ;" but while it rests upon a specific surplus^ it becomes delusive, to the extent in which it consists of any thing but surplus. Moreover, in our haste to repeal taxes, we have adopted two principles, both, as I sub- mit, erroneous. We have included in the account of income and expenditure whereon our balance is struck, every sort of receipt and disbursement, however uncertain or occa- sional ; and we have considered as permanent surplus, which we might freely give away by reducing the taxes, every actual or ex- pected exceeding of revenue, without making any allowance for erroneous estimates, or for fluctuations of produce. I am far from disputing, indeed I have elsewhere maintained, the propriety of re- * Resolutions of the House of Commons, of 8tli June, 1819. 108 ducing taxes, as an experiment of the effect of reduction upon the produce of the re- mainder ; but as we are now upon the causes of the failure of the sinking fund, I cannot omit these, to which the present defalcation is correctly to be traced. § 19. I HAVE submitted to your Lordship this history of the sinking fund, in the hope of convincing you that you have misconceived both the degree and the causes of the im- puted failure, and that you draw an unau- thorised conclusion from the failure which is admitted. The institution was formed, forty-two years ago. This period consisted, of six years of peace ; twenty-four years of war ; then twelve years of peace. Its operation in the first period was necessarily upon a small scale ; but not even your lordship will impute to it a failure. 109 The question now being, whether to re- establish the institution during peace, I might fairly disregard, in the determination of that question, the whole following period of war ; but I have endeavoured to show that its ope- ration, even during the war, was not without advantage ; and that the objection to it is ap- plicable, only, to a mistaken choice between two modes of using it, equally parts of the system. This mistake, if it be one, might be avoided by a recourse to Mr. Fox's clause. Your charge of failure, upon the present period of peace, it is impossible to repel : but it is a failure occasioned by external violence, not inherent disease. The violent measures were, the systematic reduction of the fund to five millions ; and, the destruction of the surplus, whereout that provision was to come. The first of these, may or may not have been judicious. It is not altogether impro- bable, that if the gradual operation of the 110 plan of 1813, in affording relief, had been sufficiently understood, and impressed upon parliament, it might have been found expe- dient, at the expense of a continued pressure, to persevere in it; borrowing money for every expense in any degree connected with the war ; and maintaining our taxation, until released by the operation of the sinking fund, at the scale of the ordinary peace expendi- ture, enlarged as it has been by the events of passed years. But surely, my Lord, it is not just to im- pute failure to the sinking fund, because, after a war of unexampled effort and profu- sion, succeeding a very short period of peace, it was not found possible to adhere strictly to a system planned in contemplation of an alternation of peace and war more conform- able to experience. The sinking fund of 1819, it is admitted, was not calculated to redeem the debt in forty -five years from that period ; still less from the respective periods of its HI origin. But the amount bore to the existing debt, a greater proportion than did the sink- ing fund of 1786; and it was to accumulate without check, until it should reach the point from which the redemption within the pre- scribed period would be effected. With all my partiality for the sinking fund, I cannot regard a relaxation in this degree, whether it were one produced by necessity, or by a view of expediency, not quite enough regardful of the future, as a decisive indica- tion of weakness or impracticability in the system. When you consider that it was accompanied by the imposition of three mil- lions of taxes, it ought rather to be regarded as a proof of the determination of parliament, at that recent period, to persevere in the system of Mr. Pitt. There has, then, been no complete failure, until now, when, through the too liberal re- peal of taxes, the surplus has disappeared. It may be true that the diminution of the 112 fund has been the consequence of attempting too much, more indeed than Mr. Pitt con- templated. The " ultimate suspension," as you style the present state of the fund, is the consequence of over-sanguine anticipations of financial prosperity. Nor can these results be deemed a " decisive experiment" which ought to " lead to the total abandonment of " the system." One word more, before I quit this long section of the Essay. I believe that I have already disposed of all the passages, wherein you allude to " increasing loans," and " extraordinary taxation ;" except one re- markable passage with which you conclude, by lamenting that means had not been found for carrying on the war with more vigour and effect, by sparing to us those additional loans, or additional taxes, by an earlier dis- continuance of the system. Your lordship herein correctly ascribes to the system its power of giving, at any moment, such 113 effectual support as, I have shown, the late fund did afford us, in a period of the greatest exertion. Let it even be granted that the aid will be most efficacious, if sought at the first moment of war, why do you counsel us against collecting, in time of peace, mate- rials so important to the vigorous prosecution of the contest. §20. In your *' conclusion," you dispose of four various heads of advantage, as those which are ascribed to a sinking fund by its different upholders. 1. Some, you say, recommend the system as " a resource in unforeseen emergencies.'* On this you originally observed, that " a " disposable surplus has its own advantages '* and disadvantages *, but, in both, it essen- *' tially differs from a sinking fund. The one * The passage is altered in the second edition, and the di.sad- vantaj^e is explained. It consists in the surplus, "beginning- iu " needless taxation, and, probably, leading to needless cxpendi- " lure." Page 80. 114 " is appropriated, the other free." The one, therefore, you infer, cannot answer the pur- pose of the other. In my view, the advantage here ascribed to the sinking fund is incidental only ; it certainly was not, and, upon my principle, it ought not to be, an original object of the in- stitution ; yet it furnishes of itself a sufficient reason for maintaining it in peace. The " appropriation " of a fund having this origin, would be " the unforeseen emergency ;" but a sinking fund, the most strictly appro- priated to redemption of debt, in any other form than a specific pledge to the stock- holder, is always within the power of parlia- ment ; and its liability to be used on an emergency, may fairly be claimed as one of its recommendations. 2. To raise and uphold the price of stocks, may have been an advantage ascribed to the institution by a fundholder. To a statesman it is none, except under any particular cir- 115 cumstances, in which a high price of the funds assists a financial operation ; this may be, (for we will put loans out of the question) a reduction of the interest of the debt. The effect is not desired, for the benefit of any one set of proprietors, (which would be highly unjust) but for the benefit of all who pay taxes. Considering this as a merely inciden- tal and occasional advantage of a sinking fund, I shall not argue against your opinion of its inefficacy. I beUeve that the purchases of the commissioners have a great efiect upon the price, which is not materially counter- acted by any consequent diversion of capital to other investment. 3. Your third supposed advantage is thus described — "The compulsory accumulation " of national wealth and its diversion from " unprofitable expenditure into productive " capital." As stated by Ricardo, from whom you cite it, this beneficial effect resolves itself into relief from taxation. Through the I 2 116 sinking fund, he says*, we repeal taxes; taxes are generally paid out of revenue, which would otherwise be expended, and which thus come to be employed in increasing the annual produce of our land and labour. This is not my view of the effect of the repeal of taxes. I subscribe to your Lord- ship's doctrine, that our object is " not the " multiplication of wealth, but the multipli- *' cation of that social happiness which is " derived from wealth, and which consists " essentially in its use." Most assuredly ; and there is an addition to the happiness and comfort of every man who finds that he has the "free use" of a part of his income hitherto due to the government, or that, with the same income, he may enlarge his con- sumption, hitherto straitened by what was, in effect, a sumptuary law. In relief from direct or indirect taxation, he experiences one or other of these substantial benefits ; for * Supplement to the Encyclopedia Britannica. " Funding System.'' Pac^e 421. 117 the effect which this plan for enlarging, not " narrowing his enjoyments," produces upon the national wealth, he cares nothing. I, too, my Lord, in arguing for a sinking fund, disclaim all speculative and circuitous advantages ; I discard all notions of " forced "accumulation and compulsory saving*;" nor, indeed, is any thing like them to be found in the authority which you quote. I concur in your view of " the proper aim of legislation ;" but I would not that the parliament of the day should diminish, by burdensome anticipa- tions, the power of all future legislatures to pursue the course which you recommend. 4. I do not perceive the absurdity which your Lordship imputes to are commendation of the sinking fund, as giving confidence at home and abroad. I know not how accu- rately an enemy will estimate our power, when there is a question of war between us ; but it is obvious that we assert our rights with more confidence, when we know that * Essay, p. 82. 118 we possess, not " unreal " wealth, but the facility of maintaining, without additional taxes, fifty thousand additional soldiers, or of realising many millions of money. Un- doubtedly, this is the effect, not of a sinking fund peculiarly, but of a surplus revenue ; I submit that experience limited, but decisive, has taught us that a sinking fund is the easiest and surest mode of preserving this surplus, and, in that sense, it gives us confidence in our foreign and domestic policy. § 21. I HAVE examined, with a boldness for which I again apologise sincerely, the reasonings whereupon you counsel the abandonment of the sinking fund. I have now to solicit your attention to the details of the advice of an opposite tendency, which, upon the grounds which I have stated, I would humbly offer to the country. Those grounds are, first, the injustice and 119 improvidence of an indefinite charge upon the revenues ; and, secondly, the expediency of husbanding our resources, for a time of war*. Your Lordship will observe, that neither of these reasons leads, of necessity, to the esta- blishment of a sinking fund, to operate during war. The latter almost necessarily excludes such operation; the former is quite con- sistent with a determination to pursue, so long as we have peace, the system, then to be suspended. My advice is, that we revive the sinking fund, consisting of clear yearly surplus ; that we retain, even if we cannot at once strictly act upon it, the limitation of forty- five years; and that that limitation should be maintained in war as well as in peace. * Dr. Hamilton's third gjeneral principle is this: — "The " amount of the revenue, raised in time of peace, ought to be " greater than the expense of a peace establishment, and the '* overplus applied to the discharge of debts contracted in former " wars, or reserved as a resource for the expenses of future " wars." Page 7. 120 A clear yearly surplus is the balance of the average produce of the revenue, over and above the average of the ordinary expendi- ture. Our permanent income ought to be estimated, upon an average, comprising years of various production ; and our estimate of expenditure ought to allow for contingencies. In some years, there will be a balance of in- come, in others, a slight deficiency ; but, if we intend to have a real fund of redemption, we must provide a surplus beyond the ave- rage balance of income and expenditure. However desirable it may be to restore the limitation of forty-five years, I do not think that parliament can prudently, or consistently with recent proceedings, call upon the people for a larger surplus than that which was deli- berately fixed by the House of Commons in 1819 ; and which is now, by law, the amount of the sinking fund. I know not to what ex- tent any expected reductions of expenditure will assist in effecting this surplus ; still less 121 can I estimate the improvement, of which there are visible symptoms, in the existing revenue. I fear that neitlier of these causes will afford the surplus, without a restoration of a small portion of the thirty millions of taxes, which have been repealed in the pre- sent period of peace ; and I am aware that taxes may possibly be required to the extent of the whole five millions *. For reasons already given, I here presume that no further portion of the dead weight annuity is sold ; indeed, as we do not at this moment act upon the principle, by which alone that arrangement is justified, it would be better to reduce our actual sinking fund, than to supply it by means of the annuity. I do not insist upon the immediate impo- sition of five millions of taxes ; we may fairly take two years in the operation, during which we may watch the progress of the revenue, * In the )ear 1827, there was no real surphis ; the deficiency, which J estimate at about nine luindred ihoiisand ])ouiuIs, we may fairly expect to supply by improved revenue. 122 and ascertain the amount required, and the readiest sources for supplying it. That there will be any difficulty in obtaining the sur- plus, experience forbids me to doubt; it might be procured by addition to the present taxes upon consumption and expenditure, or by the levy of an income tax, to the amount of double the sum required, accompanying a great reduction of those taxes upon consump- tion and expenditure which are much less conformable to the true principles of taxation, and interfere much more with production and the employment of labour. The next question regards the limitation under which this sinking fund is to be applied. By the act of 1823 *, it is to accumulate at compound interest, until it shall amount to one hundredth part of the debt -f ; that is, * 4 Geo. IV. c. 19. t The funded debt, and the unfunded, if unprovided for. I think that no part of the unfunded debt, which, though not spe- cifically provided for, is a charge upon the revenues of the next, or soon following years, ought to be included among the objects of the sinking fund. 123 until it shall constitute a fund, capable of re- deeming the debt within forty-five years from that time, it would appear, the fixed allow- ance of five millions will continue strictly appropriated ; but the redeemed interest may be applied, in the spirit of the act of 1813, " as " parliament may from time to time direct." This enactment appears to recognise the limitation of forty-five years, but with an important variation from the original prin- ciple ; it should seem that the period might be continually renewed, and the principle satisfied, if there exist, from time to time, a fund suflUcient for the redemption of the debt within forty-five years, if applied at com- pound interest throughout the period. Now I do not say that this is altogether contrary to the principle of 1792 ; and it certainly is not contrary to the practice of individuals, which I have invoked in support of that prin- ciple. If we were always at peace, and were con- 124 tinually to renew our incumbrance at the same amount as that which would be re- deemed, this mode of applying the principle would keep down the debt, at its existing amount ; but it would be a most improvi- dent scheme for us, who are always liable to war ; and would be quite inconsistent with Mr. Pitt's system, which requires the equali- zation of the permanent income, with the ordinary expenditure, and the maintenance of a clear surplus for redeeming debt. To your Lordship, however, this supposed system of loans in peace ought to be accept- able ; for the arguments founded on the ab- surdity of our concern for the interests of posterity, would clearly justify us in borrow- ing, at all times, as much money as we can possibly raise, for any purpose whatever, upon perpetual, still more certainly upon terminable, annuities. We ought, as I suggest, so to manage our one per cent sinking fund, as lo place our- 125 selves, as nearly as possible, in the situation of having borrowed, in war, upon annuities of forty-five years ; and of not borrowing at all in time of peace. On these grounds, as well as because I ob- ject to the parliamentary discretion borrowed from the act of 1813, I disapprove of the provisions of the existing sinking fund act ; and conceive that if the proportion of one in the hundred be preserved, it ought to be used for its original purposeof redeeming, in forty- five years, the debt to which each fund is appropriated; this can only be effected by an unchecked operation at compound in- terest. Do I then propose that our sinking fund of five millions should so accumulate? I answer no. And my reason is this ; we are now, perhaps, in respect of the existing debt, in the situation in which Mr. Pitt stood in 1786; and in creating, or restoring, a fund of redemption, we may fairly fix a period at which it shall begin to work actual relief 126 from taxation. The unchecked accumulation of the fund, would postpone this relief sixty or seventy years, and then effect it to an amount much too large for one operation. These several considerations induce me to wish that the fund had been made to operate at compound interest, till it should arrive at eight, or I should prefer, ten millions, and then to operate, as was intended of Mr. Pitt's four millions, at simple interest ; effecting in every year, subsequent to the attainment of that point, an additional relief from taxes. Yet as the amount to which the present law requires the accumulation will probably be upwards of seven millions, it may be as well to leave the law as it stands ; hoping that the future parliament, which shall be called upon to act upon the discretion vested in it, or perhaps a little sooner, will, of itself, adopt a definite rule of relief. If I were to suggest a rule, I think that it would be this ; — that from that period, one half of the sum -r-nnqllv savcd by the operation of th^ ^^^^^ 127 should, as now, be again carried to the fund, and the other half set free. The present law makes no new or special provision for war. Mr. Fox's clause remains in force, and the rule of 1813, which requires in some cases, a sinking fund, greater than one per cent.* on new loans is retained. Though I do not see the necessity of this larger fund I am decidedly of opinion that, here again, it is advisable to leave the act as it stands. It will probably be revised at the commencement of a new war; I will only express my hope, that if, as is extremely pro- bable, the operation of the fund should be altogether suspended in time of war, we shall still not depart from the rule which requires the imposition of taxes to the amount of one hundredth part of every new loan. This rule may be obeyed, and the principle of 1792 substantially maintained, without any double process, or any of the machinery of the sink- * 53 Geo. III. c. 35, s. 5. 128 ing fund. I hope and trust that we shall never conduct another war without raising a large portion of the supplies within the year. A part of the additional taxes levied for this purpose should be added to the permanent revenue, the surplus of which is, in the ordi- nary course, applied to current services. The produce would, during war, reduce the amount of the annual loans, and thus operate upon the amount of the debt in the same proportion as if it were carried to a sinking fund*. In peace it would be applied to the sinking fund. I have said that the one per cent sinking funds, being a substitute for terminable an- nuities, ought as much as possible to be assimilated to them. A very ingenious but eccentric connexion of your lordship's, the late Lord Stanhope, made a suggestion in 1786f , for securing the unvaried appropri- * See a similar sug-^estion in Dr Hamilton's book, p, 154. t Pari. Hist. xxvi. 17. 129 ation of the fund, which would have effectu- ally answered this purpose, and may be adopted with much advantage now. He pro- posed to make the sinking fund a part of the engagement with the stockholder, from which there could be no departure without a breach of faith. By this he intended, not only to secure the inalienability of the fund, but to purchase the stockholder's* consent to easier terms of redemption. There are two modes in which a variation of this suggestion might be applied, during the present period; we might purchase by the application of a part of the fund, the consent of the three per cent, stockholders to the conversion of their stock into a smaller capi- tal at a higher rate of interest ; or we might * As this is the first time of mentioning the stockholder, I take the opportunity of expressing my satisfaction at your lord- ship's concurrence (evident from your omission of the topic) in the rejection of all claim on the part of the stockholder to any sinking fund, except in the one case of the 3^ per cents., in which there is a specific legal pledge. The general pledge is rather to the land. 130 facilitate that which is the most desirable of all the results, the conversion of the per- manent, into terminable annuities, the differ- ence being paid out of the sinking fund. I will not now pursue this topic into all the varieties of which it admits, although it is intimately connected with the present dis- cussion, inasmuch as it refers to an effectual mode of " giving permanence to the sinking " fund." It must be admitted that this mode of appropriating a sinking fund, excludes the possibility of making any other use of it, and is, therefore, inconsistent with the second object of the institution, the collection of the means of carrying on future wars ; those at least which may occur, as wars almost cer- tainly will, within our period of limitation. Indirectly, however, our efforts in war would be greatly assisted by the provident and effectual reduction of our permanent debt; and, although, if we have a fund at our dis- 131 posal, it may be wise to use it in war, I am satisfied that we ought not to be deterred, by the hope of accumulating that fund, from taking the most effectual measures for reliev- ing the country from the perpetual charge, which we ourselves and our predecessors have imposed upon it. I have only one word more as to the ma- nagement of our finances. If we make effec- tual provision for our expenses, the revenue will still fluctuate ; there may be occasional deficiencies, occasional surplusses : the former would cause a temporary augmentation, the latter a diminution of the floating debt ; and I hope that it will not be until a surplus has endured for at least three years, that we shall again disperse resources which it is difficult and painful to recal. If there should be any doubt of the permanence of the sur- plus, and the reduction of the floating debt should be thought unadvisable, Mr. Pitt's practice in 1792 should be followed ; a part, k ■> 132 at least, of the occasional surplus should be granted for that time, not specially appropri- ated, to the sinking fund ; this would be no grant to " remote posterity," as by accelerat- ing the attainment of the maximum, we should bring nearer to us the period, not very distant now, according to my suggestion, of direct and copious relief. My Lord, I have now completed my en- deavour to lay before the public the facts and principles upon which they are to decide the great question at issue. I deceive myself if I have not urged rea- sons, of no inconsiderable weight, in favour of the principle of limiting our charge upon posterity ; and I am still more confident that I have shown good grounds for rejecting your Lordship's counsel, which would lead us alto- gether to disregard our debts, and not even, in this time of peace, to think of reducing them ; for this advice, I submit, you cannot cite the opinion of statesman, philosopher, or 133 economist, or the example of any sober man. Foreign countries will fail you ; Russia and France have sinking funds ; and the wary and provident government of the North Ame- rican States, have recently* re-inforced their sinking fund, to operate unchecked during peace, but to be disposable by congress dur- ing war. Your advice my Lord, forgive me for saying it, is really one of those excesses into which orators are sometimes misled by the intoxi- cation of argument ; and it is well worthy to be classed with those boasts of heaven-born genius, and magical power, which you impute to us, the advocates of the policy which you reject. Our error you ascribe to " the love of sys- tem.'' My Lord, although I utterly discard all arguments (if arguments they can be), founded upon a change of your lordship's * See in Cohen's Compendium of Finance, p. 177, an abstraq of the American Act of 1817. 134 opinion upon the application of a principle ; I own that I see with unmeasured surprise. Lord Grenville the contemner of a systematic policy. I have always been taught to expect from you, indeed I have heard, if I remember well, not unfrequently from your lips, an in- dignant and contemptuous reprobation of occasional devices for carrying on the public affairs : those who were the more peculiar admirers of your Lordship, would boast of your superiority in this respect to your friend and fellow-counsellor ; and would sometimes reproach him with too ready a submission to political circumstances, while your Lordship assumed and pursued a statesman-like and undeviating rule of action. I never could accede to the imputation upon Mr. Pitt, who, according to my humble observation, combined with more of judicious discrimination than any statesman of the time, an adherence to right and chosen principles, with a prompt estimate of passing occur- 135 Fences ; and never, in the moment of the obe- dience to occasional considerations, which his eventful times required, lost sight of his more approved policy. Yet, in your Lordship, there always ap- peared a still more tenacious and formal ad- herence to system, and a reference, in all your opinions, (how impressively enforced upon your auditors, my youthful recollections well attest,) to the permanent welfare of your country. No man could trace a more an- cient interest in the soil of England; no man's counsels carried that interest further into the time to come. And, now, it is by Lord Grenville that we are taught to ridicule systems, and to disre- gard future generations ; to satisfy our own wants from year to year as we can, leaving to annual consideration the settlement of our most important concerns, and not caring how we may affect or embarrass our posterity. I earnestly hope, that the Lords and Com- 136 mons of this day will deem otherwise of their duties as statesmen ; and that if the still re- maining consequences of the late struggle, have left us too weak to sustain the vi- gorous counsels of Pitt, we may still adhere to the resolution suggested by the practical wisdom of Castlereagh, and enforced by the eloquence of Canning. I have the honour to be, with great respect, My Lord, Your Lordship's Most obedient and humble servant, Thomas Peregrine Courtenay. London, April SOth, 1828. ( t v^v m ajv MM u ai i a M o iic MM *! »A«f«i*'wnft;!iiitrj ^• fr '""Oiixs^i^^j-i-'- r!>rMHi^^j:t1tl'<