e-y UNION OE DISUNION. THE UNION CANNOT AND SHALL NOT BE DISSOLVED. MR. LINCOLN NOT AN ABOLITIONIST. SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS, AT HOLCOMBE HALL, IN LYNCHBURa, VIRGINIA, ON THURSDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 18. On Thursday evening Holcombe Hall was crowded to hear the address of Mr, Bolts. His appearance on the platform was the signal for the wildest enthusiasm, which con- tinued for several minut(^s. "When quiet was restored, John H. Speed, Esq., introduced the distinguished gentleman to his audience in a brief speech, at the conclusion of which Mr. Botts came forward and addressed them as follows ; Fellow-Citizens: — This being the first time I have had an opportunity of present- ing myself to the people of Lynchburg, it becomes me to return my acknowledgments for the greeting I have received ; although I must confess I know not the party to which I am indebted for this flattering reception, for I stand here in rather a new character — that of a representative of the Democratic party. [Laughter.] If I do not play mj' part well, it is not for the want of good will towards that party, for, as you well know, the kindest and most amiable relations have always subsisted between us. [Renewed laugh- ter,] Yet I do not know whether I shall come up to the expectations of some of my Democratic friends, for a paper has been put into my hands by which I ascertain, with some surprise, tliat it is expected I will make at least one th(Kisand votes for the Demo- cratic party by my speech to-night. [Laughter.] But I trust they will be content, when I have done, and in a spirit of charity to compromise for half that number, [Great Laughter,] But, in all seriousness, for I have little time for preliminary remaiks, I trust I shall bo able to gain your attention, and that you will be patient while I deliver to you my views on all the issues involved in the present Presidential camjiaign. Fellow-citizens, I am not here in the character that I have often occupied in my younger days; I am not here as a partisan. I have jiassed the period of life when it be- comes me, in my judgment, to play that part, and no small share of experience in political life teaches me that I have a country to serve and to save, if I can, which rises very far above all party considerations ; and I hesitate not to say that if this were a mere party contest, for the defeat of this party or for the triumph of that, I should leave it to younger and more active men. But when I saw disunion and treason, with a brazen front, and with a bold and defiant tongue, stalking through this glorious old Commonwealth of Virginia, I felt I had no right to devote myself to retirement — that my country was en- titled to what inrtuence I might be able to exert; and, casting all other considerations aside, I took the field with a determination to discharge my share of duty. [Applause.] In the remarks I propose to admit, I beg leave to say that I do not address myself to the young, the thoughtless, the inconsiderate, and the unrefl<>cting. I propose to address Tnj'self t(» the calm reflections of intelligent men — men who are capable of appreciating the argument which I shall otfer, and wlio valu<' the institutions of the country. I know very well, gentlemen, that what I shall say will not be api>roved by all. I know I shall (1) 2 SPEECH OE THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. be, as T have been heretofore, grossly misrepresented, vilified, and denounced. I know I sliall be called an Abolitionist. A Voice — Of course. Of course — and why not? Because I do not vote the Democratic ticket. And yet, when I reflect that such men as Henry Clay, William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, and Winfield Scott, all natives of Virginia, have been held, by that party which de- nounces me, as unsound on the institution of Slavery — as being, in truth. Abolitionists of the darkest dye, and that such men as Martin Van Buren, Gen. Cass, Franklin Pierce, and .James Buchanan, are only to be trusted on this question, I must say I am reconciled to the denunciation of the party. Such a charge gives me no annoyance. I feel as com- fortable under it as a man who has a note in Bank, with a plenty of money in his pocket; he can discharge the obligation whenever it meets his convenience; and in like manner, I can relieve myself of this imputation, whenever I desire to do so, or that it occasions me the least disturbance. All I have to do is to vote the Democratic ticket, and the charge will never be made again. For I have never heard the charge made yet against one of their own party, and have never known one of prominence in our party against whom it was not made. I gave my answer to the foul libel in 1856, when I said, "Ho who calls me an Abolitionist, is either a knave or a fool, and not unfrequently both." I have nothing to add to, or take from what I then said, I treat the whole thing with contempt. I propose now to enter upon the discussion of some questions involved in the present canvass. A very extraordinary state of things exists in the country. AVe have not only, for the first time in the history of the Democratic party, two candidates presented to the people, but we have threats of disunion, more or less, in every Sotithern state, depending upon certain contingencies. An imcharitable mind might come to the conclusion, per- haps, that the reasons of the division had arisen from the fact of an empty treasury, for I believe nobody ever heard of a division of the Democratic party as long as there remained any money in the treasury that they could appropriate to themselves ; but having spent $17,000,000 that were in the treasury at the time they came into power, and created a debt of S60, 000,000 more, it might be that they had divided for the purpose of enabling us to get into power that we might replenish it for them. [Laughter and applattse.] But I think there are other reasons for it, which 1 shall attempt to make manifest. When you get into conversation with those gentlemen who talk in this way of the contingency to which I refer, you will find they have almost as many reasons as there are persons you encounter. If you ask one of the Breckinridge portion of the Democracy why they have two candidates in the field, and why they could not support Douglas, who was the regular nominee of the National Democratic party, if such a party can be supposed to exist, they tell you it was because Douglas was the advocate of the doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty, and that he stands on a platform they cannot support, notwithstanding the fact that in the Charleston Convention they voted fifty-seven ' times for Mr. Hunter — I mean the delegation from Virginia — upon the identical platform that Douglas nOw occu' pies. But I take issue with the gentlemen, and 1 deny that Squatter Sovereignty has anything to do with the question between the Breckinridge and Douglas men. I deny it because I make the assertion, broadly and without qualificatii)n as far as my knowledge extends, that there was not a Democrat from the Southern States in the Charleston Con- vention that did not stand unqualifiedly and overwhelmingly committed to Squatter Sove- reiarntv. Thev were all its advocates, and thev all assisted as far as thev could, whether in Congress or out of it, in establishing that doctrine. What is the doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty? It is non-intervention. What is non-intervention? It is non-interfe- rence. Non-interference on the part of whom ? Non-interference on the part of Con- gress. On the part of Congress with whom ? With the people of the territories. And during the discussion of the Kansas-Nebraska bill, this great fundamental feature of the bill was specially recommended by our Democratic representatives from the South to their constituents on that especial ground, and no other. It would be no very difiicult task to take up The Congressional Globe and show that there was not a Southern repre- sentative who advocated that bill, that did not pvit it upon the ground of non-interven- tion, as being the feature of the bill which most recommended it to the country. I shall not undertake to do this, but I propose to submit authority that will be as conclusive on the subject as if I were to read every speech of those who addressed Congress on the subject. First of all, take Mr. Cass, the present Democratic Secretary of State, and we find that a day or two after the passage of the bill, he said : " On the morning of the passage of the bill, I congratulate the Senate on the triumph of Squatter Sovereignty, and I have just cause for congratulation. Many of us have labored long and zealously for the recognition of political freedom, and have been exposed to misrepresentation and denunciation. When, therefore a bill had received the sanction of the Senate, which conferred a greater freedom on the Territories than had ever before V ^^.-*«i a M « -« « W V ^V^-^VAl Y? ^ '/?/ 5-f" SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. 3 been grnnted to such local communities, yielding up all the supervisory authority by Congress over their legislation, . . 1 felt thut a great advance had been made in the pro- gre!»s of free principles." There, then, was the congratulation of one of the foremost men of the party, and one of the ablest expounders of law and the Constitution in the Senate of the Unitid States. Did any member of the Democratic party from the South rise in his place and dispute this authority of Gen. Cass, that th(^ doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty was established by the passage of the bill ? Far from it. The next who spoke upon the subject was our own representative, ]\[r. Mason, and what does he say? This gentleman, who now advocates the election of Breckinridge, and opposses the election of Douglas upon the ground that he cannot sustain the doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty, said to the Senate : " From the experience which the Southern States have had of the tendencies of Con- gress heretofore on the subject of Slavery, I do not know that we may not quite as safely trust the people, come from where they may, as the Congress of the United States, with that institution." Again. In the Congressional Globe of the 34th Congress, 1855-56, we find the follow, ing language employed by Mr. Mason, in his construction of the Cincinnati platform and the Kansas-Nebraska bill : '♦I do know what was the issue on this subject (slavery in the Territories) which was presented in the political platform adopted at Cincinnati by the Democratic party. That issue was the doctrine of the Kansas-Nebraska bill. AY hat was that? The Territorial Government was so organized then as to admit citizens of all the States, whether free or slave, to take their property into the Territories, and when they organized themselves, or were organized under the law, into a legislative body, then to determine for themselves whether this institution shall exist among them or not." So much for Mr. Mason. But this is not all. In the year 1856, on the occasion of the anniversary of ^Mr. Clay's birthday, the llith day of April, at a place called Ashland, formerly called Slash Cottage — which you have all seen on your way to the North — a short distance from Kichmond ; a large number of distinguished gentlemen were invited to participate in the celebration of th:it daj'. Among others was the then Attorney-General of the United States, the Hon. Caleb Cushing, late presiding officer of the Charleston Convention, and subsequently presiding officer of the Seceding Convention at Baltimore, and who now expresses a holy iiorror at this doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty. Mr. Cushing came to Ashland as the law otticer of the Government, the highest legal officer in the United States, and he came for the purpose, as it appeared, of giving a legal, technical construction to the bill, for that constituted the main features of his remarks. As you will perceive, he was anxious to keep good company by associating the name of Henry Clay with the doctrine of Squatter •Sovereignty, which high honor 1 took occasion to disclaim for Mr. Clay in the papers of next day : and before I read what he said, 3'ou will pardaoi me for saying that he often uses words that even educated men know not the meaning of. He has been a professor of languages, and is fond of indulging in grandiloquent, or what is commonly termed high- fuluda words. And you will pardon me if I undertake to explain what he means, as I go along. " I anticipate that many eloquent and stirring things will be said by gentlemen present, in exhibition of the character, of the career, and of the fame of Henry Clay. I will venture to stand upon a single point in that great brilliant, and glorious career. I will refer to that tinal struggle, of the patriotic efforts of Henry Clay — that final struggle in the Senate of the United States, when he cooperated with others of his compeers, and among them gentlemen here present, in those elforts which resulted in the establishment, I will venture to say, in the perpetual and unshakable establishment in the public law and political theory of the United States, of the absolute equality, the coequal political ftutoiiorny" (any other man-would have said the right of self-government, for that is what autonomy means) "of each and all those States; the great corollary of that doctrine is the establishment of the corresponding theory that each distinct inchoate State" (anybody else would have said each distinct Territory) " of this Union shall determine for itself what shall b(^ its own institutions. I say, if he left no other legacy to his countrymen, it would be sufficient to perpetuate his memory, that luf aided in the establishment of that 1)rinciple which h-^s now become fixed and irrevocable in spite of all the howls of faction, n all parts of this Union it must become the unanimous ci>nviction of the people of these United States that whether a State in this Union is or is not to regulate labor, in this or that manner, depends upon the will of the people of that State or Territory." " Of that State or Territory." So that w have the authority of the law officer of the Government as to what was meant by the bill ; that it has become a fixed and irrevocable law of the land, in spite of all the howls of faction, that the Territories shall determine for themselves whether or no Slavery shall be admitted within their borders. If that is not enough, let me proceed a little further, and give you the testimony of two 4 SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. otlier important gentlemen ; and, I will here remark that it seems to have been a most miraculous accident that these gentlemen should have fallen, in their hot haste to condemn and denounce all who advocate the doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty — it was truly- miracu- lous that they should have fallen on two gentlemen who occupied precisely and identically the same position that Douglas occupies on the question. I daresay many of you have seen this before, but it is necessary, for the argument, that I shall present it for your con- sideration again. Mr. Breckinridge says : "Among many misrepresentations sent to the country by some of the enemies of this bill, perhaps none is more flagrant than the charge that it proposes to legislate Slavery into Kansas and Nebraska. Sir, if the bill contained such a feature it would not receive my vote. The right to establish involves the co-relative right to prohibit ; and, denying both, I would vote for neither The eifect of the repeal (of the Missouri Com- promise), therefore, is neither to establish nor to exclude Slavery, but to leave the future condition of the territories dependent wholly upon the action of the inhabitants, subject only to such limitations as the Federal Constitution may impose It will bo ob- served that the right of the people to regulate, in their own way, all their domestic institu- tions, is left wholly untouched, except that whatever is done — must be done in accordance wdth the Constitution — the supreme law for us all." In 1856 he says : "The recent legislation of Congress (on the Kansas-Nebraska bill) respecting domestic Slavery, derived as it has been from the original and pure fountain of legitimate political power, the will of the majority, promises ere long to allay the dangerous excitement. This legislation is founded upon principles as ancient as free government itself, and in ac- cordance with them has simply declared that the people of a territory, like those of a State, shall decide for themselves whether Slavery shall or shall not exist within their limits." Again, he said in 1856, after his election to the Vice-Presidency: "The whole power of the Democratic organization is pledged to the following proposi- tions: That Congress shall not intervene on this subject (of Slavery) in the States, in the Territories, ov in the District of Columbia ; that the people of each territory shall determine the question for themselves, and be admitted into the Union upon a footing of perfect equality with the original States, without discrimination, on account of the allowance or prohibition of Slavery." Does Douglas say more or less upon the subject? Is it not precisely and identically his ground ? And so with Gen. Lane. He says : ""There is nothing in the law, gentlemen, but what every enlightened American heart should approve. The idea incorporated in the Kansas-Nebraska bill is the true American principle ; for the bill does not establish or prohibit Slavery, but leaves the people of these territories perfectly free to regulate their own local affairs in their own way. Is there any man who can "^object to that idea? Is there any American citizen who can oppose that principle ? <* "The question of Slavery is a most perplexing one, and ought not to be agitated. "We should leave it with the states, where it constitutionally exists, and the people of the terri- tories to prohibit, or to establish, as to them may seem proper. "All that the Democracy ask in relation to this matter is, that the people of the terri- tory should be left perfectly free to settle the question of Slavery for themselves, without the interference of New Hampshire, Massachusetts, or any other state." There, then, is the testimony and the authority of not only Gen. Cass and Mr. Gush- ing, but of Breckinridge and Lane, themselves, the candidates of the party, who are set up in opposition, on the ground that they cannot support Douglas for the reason that he is in favor of Squatter Sovereignty. [Applause.] But I am perfectly willing to discard all the authority I have read on the subject, and come to the plain, naked bill itself; and let us see what it is, What is the language of the bill? It declares, in so many words, "it being the true intent and meaning of this act not to legislate Slavery into any territory or state, nor to exclude it therefrom ;" when ? Now. At this moment. At the time of the passage of this bill. "It is not intended to legislate Slavery into or out of the territories, but to leave the people thereof perfecthj f7-ee to regulate their own domestic institutions in their own way." To decide for themselves when? At this moment, at the time of the passage of the bill ? Is a word said about admission into the Union when it forms a Constitution and asks for admission into the Union? Not a word. But it is not intended now to legislate Slavery into or out of the territories, but to leave the people thereof (now) free to legislate in their own way; and I will say, as Douglas said at Norfolk that if any man in Congress did not understand the language of the bill, he ought to confess his incapacity to repre- sent the public, and resign his seat and come home. [Applause.] I will add, he ought to go to school and l^arn the English language again. They were not deceived. They outwitted themselves. They came home, and attempted to raise their emigrant aid societies throughout the South. Alabama and South Carolina, SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. $ both T believe, made appropriations out of the public treasury to all who would g;o into the Territories to sustain Sluvory, and in thi' town of pL*ter?bur<^. my own city, in this State, they did the same thing, rni.sed j)rivate sub>crij)tions to.})ay the expenses (jf tlie emigrants, but they did not succeed in getting enough of them to uccompli&h their purpusu, and they were beaten at their own game. How stands it now in regard to New oVIexico ? It has authorized the introduction of Slavt'rv. Do you hear anything from Jireckinridge or the Democratic party against Squatter Sovereignty there? Not a word. That is all right. They legishited there in accordance with their views; but when they legislate el»ewliere in opjjo.sition to their viows. they ojipose it. ^Vhy, gentlemen, there is but one thing that can furnish a fit illustration of the conduct of these men. and that is the case of a desperate gambler who bets his all upon the throwing of the die, or the turning of a card, or upon a game of all- fours ; the parties stand six to six; the adversary turns uf) .Jack, and the party who pro- posed the game and the wager grabs the stakes and attempts to run otf. but is caught and held by the coat-tail, as these gentlemen are. It is a miserable subterfuge, unworthy of the men who resort to it, to say they did not intend to give the power of legislation to the Territories. And when I raised my voice against it in 1854, during the pendency of that bill, and asked you to pause and retlect before you gave that measure your ajiproval, I was universally denounced and condemned, not only by the Democratic party and press, but by my own party, as the only traitor to the South. Now we are all traitors and Abolitionists in one pen together. [Laughter and ap- plause.] Well, you will ask somebody else what they propose the dissolution of the Union for, and he will give you another reason. One says he is not willing to remain in the Union except on the condition of entire equality among the States. Who has proposed inequality among the States ? Do not the small States of Khode Island and Delaware ex- ercise all their constitutional powers in the Government to the full extent that the great States of New York and Pennsylvania can do? But they say unless the people of the South are permitted to carry their slaves into the Territories there is no equality among the States. The answer to which is, that if that constitutes mequality, then equality never did exist, and was never intended to exist, for the very men who made the Constitution, themselves excluded you from all right to carry slaves into any part of the Territory then belonging to and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, which they did by the ordinance of 1787 — which was adojjted just before the Constitution was ratified — and which was immediately on the assembling of th(^ first Con- gress thus recognized by a preamble to a law passed on the 7th of August, 1789, which preamble is in the following words: " Whereas, in order that the ordinance of the United States in Congress assembled, for the government of the territory north-west of the River Ohio, may continue to have full effect, it is requsite that certain provisions should be made so as to adapt the same to the present Constitution of the United States; therefore be it enacted," &c. Now, all this was not only acquiesced in and submitted to, without a murmur of complaint, but nobody ever dreamed that we were living on conditions of inKjuality in the Union. This, then, is not the real treason or ground of complaint. I am fully aware, gentlemen, that the tyranny of the public press, and I may say, to some extent, of public opinion, is such that few men can dare to express the opinions they reallv entertain on this much vexed and aimoying question of Slavery. I can dare to do it, and will do it — because it is a free country. I am a free man and have no favours to ask of any one. [Great applause.] Let any man express a sound rational and national, sc'nsi})le and conservative opinion on the subject of Slavery, and he is instantly stigmatized and denounced as an Abolitionist, and a traitor to the S(Uith, unless, indeed, he belongs to the Democratic party ; then he is at liberty to say and think what he chooses. No such ridiculous and contemptible imputations shall deter me from saying what I think, and thinking what I please. I am free to say that the events of the last Winter and Spring, in my own State, have emothered, if they have not extinguished, whatever aspirations I might have in- dulged, and I have no desire that my name shall ever again be coupled with any political otfiee — no man is more indiflerent to political honors than I am — and so 1 proceed. [Applause.] Well, you ask another portion of the party why they would dissolve the Union, and tliey tell you it is owing to the John Brown raid. The Cotton States propose to take our grievances off our hands, thinking, I suppose, we cannot take care of ourselves, or have not pufficiently punished the aggressions, or that it did not cost quite money enough to do so, and they generously propose to take it upon themselves to redress our wrongs. Thankful for small favors, we can take care of all such, without the aid of Messrs. Yancey and contpjiny. [Laughter.] Well, you put the same question to another, and ho tells you it is because the Fugitive rma^i ±jjli^ jj.u^n. t}yjn.^\ j.jl. £iw±±o. Slave law has "been nullified in fourteen states. Well, if tliat is so, it is all wrong and ought to be corrected. But it happens not to be true. There are but three States, so far as I am informed, that have passed the Personal Liberty bill — Michigan, Vermont, and Massachusetts. Michigan is too remote for a slave to get to, and as far as she is concerned, it is practically of no moment. Theoretically, it is all wrong, and ought to be corrected. Vermont lies on the borders of Canada, there is no difficulty in running a Slave into the Canadian provinces ; and Massachusetts has modified her Personal Liberty bill, but I am not prepared to say to what extent. But if any State in the Union has nullified or resisted it, I say it is all wrong. But what right huve these extreme Southern States to complain and threaten to break up the Government on that account? First, they lose no slaves ; it is from the border States the slaves run ofl". We are the sufferers, not they ; and if we are willing to live in the Union, we beg them not to go out on our account ; we will try and take care of ourselves. Secondly, if those States have nullified the law, who set the example ? Was it not set by the Cotton States, who have insisted on the right of each State to judge for itself. Thirdly, because the responsibility rests at last not upon those States that have nullified the law, but on the Democratic President of the United States. Who is responsible for the resistance that may be made to the law, or for any nullification of the Fugitive Slave or any other law, whether in Massachusetts or in South Carolina ? It is the man who has laid his hand upon the sacred book and sworn to see the laws faithfully executed. It is the President of the United States — it is James Buchanan who is responsible for it — and if you had a man there who knew his duty, and possessed the courage to perform it. you would hear nothing of nullification in any State, whether in Massachusetts or South Carolina. They would all be made to execute the law, cost what it might — even if it cost every dollar in the Treasury, and the life of every man in the Arm}^ and Navy of the United States — it is his business to see the laws faith- fully executed in every State ; and when Mr. Fillmore was there he did execute the law. [Applause.] He sent Federal troops to Boston to execute the law, as it was his duty to do. Now let me say a word about this Fugitive Slave law, and explain what are the objections made to its execution in the North. Two features of it are much complained of. First of all, they complain of a feature of that bill which authorizes the Marshal of the District to call on any person in the hearing of his voice to aid him in capturing a fugitive slave. They say, and, I think, with propriety, that inasmuch as you are not re- quired to do it here, you have no right to require them to do it there. If a man's slave runs away, you have no right to cafl upon me to aid in the catching of the slave ; but if the Marshal has taken possession of the slave, and there is an attempt to rescue the slave, then he has the right to call on all men to vindicate the law. The one, you perceive, is the vindication of a personal right; the other is the vindication of a public law. Now, that feature of the bill which gives offence to the North, was put there by Mr. Mason, who was so much opposed to the passage of the compromise measures then pending, that he proposed that feature as an amendment to the bill — with the hope it would occasion its defeat in the House of Representatives, and thereby defeat the whole batch of compromise measures fo which he was opposed. But it passed and became a law with all the rest. So that you are indebted to Mr Mason for whatever resistance has been made to its execution. My own impression is, that that feature of the bill might be modified without destroj-inc: the efficiency of the bill, and it ought to be done, and the South ought to pro- pose it. There is another feature in the bill to which they object, in-which, I think, they are v/rong. They say the trial of the right of the master to his slave ought to be where the slave is arrested. I think not. First, because the slave is sure of a fair trial in the State from which he makes his escape. No man ever yet heard of a free man being re- duced to slavery against the law in a Slave state. Public feeling inclines the other way, and if you were to change the venue, I am sure that such is the prejudice of the public mind there that justice would rarely be done, and it would cost a man more than his slave would be worth to recover him. In addition to this, the evidence of the titte is where the slave makes his escape from. I have thus shown you the difficulties about the Fugitive Slave law. I think I have showji you it is not on account of the doctrine of Squatter Sovereignty, nor of the in- equality of the States, nor of the Fugitive Slave law, that the Breckenridge Demf)cracy propose a dissolution of the Union in a certain contingency. Well, another will say it is because you will not give us a Territorial bill for the protection of Slavery. I take issue again, and I say that is not the reason. Why is that not the reason ? First, because when Mr. Brown of Mississippi, at the last session of Congress, proposed an amendment to a bill, giving a Territorial Code, it received but three votes in the Senate. They did not want it. It did not suit their convenience to have it. It would have removed one of the weapons with which they proposed to fire the Southern heart and precipitate the Cotton States into a revolution. They would not vote for it. There was no necessity for it, and more than that they were not entitled to it. SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHX M. BOTTS. 7 But that constitutes no reason for their present position of hostility to the Government. I say they do not want it. First, because there is no Territory to wliich they could send their slaves; and, secondly, if all the Torrit<»ries were at their control, they have no negroes to send. The States which propose a dissolution of the Union because they cannot send their slaves into Territories that do not exist, are now clamoring for a revival of the slave-trade in order to supply that deficiency. Thirdly, if they had the territory, and the neirroes to send, they have not the white men to send with them. Have we in the South any population to spare ? If we dispose of any portion of our white population by send- ing them into the Territories, where we have no negroes, as a matter of course we de- preciate the value of our lands, lessen our importance in the national c(juncils, and become reduced to the political conditions of one of the smallest States in the Union. "What do vou want to dissolve the Union for? Do they want protection to their slave property? i'irst, who disturbs them in the possession of their slaves ? Secondly, what right have they to ask for protection to their slaves ? Have not the Cotton States always resisted this principle of protection, and threatened to dissolve the Union if the principle of pro- tection should be recognized by Congress; and when the AVhig party claimed protection for the poor man's labor, whicii constituted the projx-rty and wealth of the country, they were always met by threats to dissolve the Union, to destroy the Government, if such protection was afibrded. Now they come forward and say, if you do not protect the rich man's negro, they will dissolve the Union again. Well, it is not on the principle of protection, then, that they mean to dissolve the Union. AVhat is it? Now, there is a veil that to the vision of some obscures the scene behind, which to me is as clear as the gas-light that shines before me ; and here lies all the mystery. All admit, or decline to deny^ the value and blessings of our Government; all are ready to concede that it is the only Government on earth where civil, religious, and political freedom can be indulged and enjoyed. All admit it is the fairest fabric of Government ever erected by human hands, and yet it is proposed to destroy it. Well, there is some secret reason tor all this, not yet fully and openly disclosed. Why is it that they have nominated John C. Breckinridge against Stephen A. Douglas ? From the apprehension — encouraged by their last success — from the apprehension that Douglas may be elected. Why is i4 that they put Breckinridge in opposition to the national nominee of the party ? Why, for no other reason than to make the election of Lincoln sure, and thus get up agitation xnd excitement at the South. It is, gentlemen, for the purpose of stirring up commotion, i evolution, and disunion, that they may revive the African slave-trade — the African slave-trade without the Union, rather than the Union without the African slave- trade, and they are impelled to it by the most debased of all considerations. They are impelled and are pre])ared not only to destroy the Government, but to sell their liberty, and the hopes of mankind, for gold, for the purpose of introducing little negroes from the coast of Africa, into their cotton fields, in order that they may make cotton sell at 12 cents a pound, to put into their breeches pockets. They do not ask us to unite with them, but we, the border States, are to act in the capacity of breakwater between them and the North — we are to do the lighting while they make the cotton. [Applause.] We are to do the fighting ; they are to make the money. According to the census of 1850, there were 350,000 slaveholders in the United States. I think the number has diminished, as will appear by the census of ISOO, for the reason that negroes brini; such high prices, poor men have not been able to keep them, and they have been sold to the rich planters ot^ the South, and they are held now in larger quantities by the rich planters and smaller quan- tities by the poor. So that I think by the census of 18(50 it will be found that their number has diminished — I do not mean the number of slaves has diminished, but slaveholders; there are now about 4,000,000 of them, but I think the number of slave owners has diminished — and I think it is a fair computation to say that more than four-fifths of the slaveholders in the United States are o|)posed to the revival of the trade, and the other handful propo.se to engage in a trade that has been pronounced to be piracy not only by our laws but by the whole civilized world; and yet they propose to set themselves up in defiance of the civilization of the world, and carry on this trade, and ask that we shall protect them in it. It would be no dithcult matter to show by figures taken from public document authorized by Congress and issued from the different Di'partinents of tlie Gt)Vern- ment, that more money has been lost by the failure to protect the labor and interests of the non-slaveholders and of the poorer class of slaveholders during the last fourteen years, than would p:iy for every negro in the United States twice over, estimating the negroes at 4,000,000, and valuing them at the price which our Constitution fixes upon them, $800 a head, making $1,200,000,000. Now go back to the taritf of 1842, that did protect the labor of the entire country, slaveholders and non-slaveholders, North and South, and ascertain what was the balance of trade, annually increasing, in fjivor of the United States, and then take the tarifl'of 184t», and ascertain what had been the annual balance of trade against the United States, and it will give you considerably more than $100,000,- ^^^^^ Sl-JiEUH OJ^' THE MO^. JOHN M. BOTTS. 000 per annum for the last fourteen years. And yet who has proposed to dissolve the Union on that account? We have submitted, because we submit to the Constitution and the laws of our country, and to the legal control of a majority, as they will be compelled to do, now that that majority is against them. Now, gentlemen, I have not desired to make a charge against the leaders of the Breck- inridge party on the subject of disunion ; and if I had made a speech before you previous to the meeting of the Charlottesville Convention, I should have acquitted the entire party of any such purpose ; and if I do not do it now, it is only because they have forced upon me the necessity of holding them responsible for it. In that Charlottesville Convention, a gentleman who occupies quite a prominent position, and is a most respectable, amiable, and intelligent gentleman in all the relations of private life, one whom I have known a long time, and entertain the highest respect for, and therefore, on account of his posi- tion as a man of wealth and influence, his opinions are rendered the more important and the more obnoxious. Mr. Willoughby Newton, who had the modesty to describe himself to the Convention as ^^ a retired philosopher,'' [laughter], made a speech which contained, I think, as much treasonable matter for the space it contained as any other gentleman could very well infuse into a speech of that length. He says: " We are here to make a stand for the South, or we are here for nothing. If we are to be appalled by the shadow of disunion, let us go for Douglas ; or if we are for the spoils of victory let us go for Bell. A revolution has already taken place and we are now bowing under a government which no free people would ever have assented to. Gentle- men talk of awaiting an overt act. Have we not had overt acts ? Have not fifteen States nullified by law the Fugitive Slave act? Was not the fatal Compromise of 1850 an overt act? What acts shall we wait for? He called upon them to take their stand now as patriots. Let us have no more compromises, but trust to the God of Battle. Our fathers did not count the cost. They fought on a point of honor. They were three millions — we are nine. But he believed that the idea of civil war, if the Union were dissolved, was a chimera. There might be border forays, but a dozen intrepid Virginians would quell them. But if war should come in so just a cause, who would shrink from it? Our fore- fathers, with a third of our population, &c., not a tenth of our territory, went to war on a preamble, because it involved a point of honor. Had we not courage enough to follow their example ? What was there so hard to give up in our present government ? The Constitution was already repealed, effete and incapable of maintaining our rights. The popular mind should be familiarized with the thought of a separation. It should be directed to the glorious position that Virginia would occupy if the Union were destroyed. The speaker then drew a picture of the results that would flow, in the development of our material resources — commerce, manufactures, and agriculture. Norfolk would become the great emporium of a Southern empire, and the stream of wealth that now flows to the North from the rich State of the South would all pour through Virginia, or be arrested at home. Virginia would become the most powerful State in tiie world. In twelve months her whole fortunes would be revolutionized. These were not the inconsiderate conclu- sions of rashness or resentment, but the calm deductions of a retired political philosopher. We could not rely upon those we considered our friends at the North ; we must reW on ourselves. Mr. Newton was about to conclude, but the Convention urging him to pro- ceed, he said he was happy to find that his plain doctrines were not distasteful to his en- lightened audience. He had retired from public life from self-respect, and had been de- Voting himself since exclusively to the interests of his State and section, and the cultiva- tion of letters and philosophy." He goes back "to the Compromise measures of 1850, to show that that was an overt act justifying a dissolution of the Union. Those Compromise acts that were the work of the first men of all parties in the nation, with Henry Clay at the head and Gen. Cass giving his aid — the two great leaders of the two great parties of the day ; those measures which the Democratic party took from us and claimed as their own. To be sure they made re- sistance in the beginning, and did call for a Southern Convention in Nashville, for the purpose of dissolving the Union then, rather than submit to the Compromise measures ; but so overwhelmingly popular did they become, that those gentlemen were driven from their position, and advocated the Compromise measures of 1850 as their own. They put Pierce on the platform, and swore he was a better Compromise man than Scott, who aided in the passage of these measures, as far as any one vote in Congress could do, and this was conclusively established even by those who were opposed to him. Yet they swore that Pierce was more to be relied upon for his fidelity to those Compromise measures than Winfield Scott. To be sure, we swore hard on the other side, but they outswore us so far, that they beat Scott so badly that he has hardly shown his face in public since ; and Mr. Willoughby Newton voted for Pierce on that platform. Letters and Philosophy ! Here was a gentleman preaching treason and disunion, the philosojihy of Benedict Arnold, and of Aaron Burr, and before whom? A mass of igno- rant men, whose passions were to be excited and led away ? No ! He was addressing SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. 9 himself to the elite, the select, the chosen representatives of the Breckinridge Democracy of this State ; and when lie pr(»posed to retire from the stand, they cheered him to go on — "Go on !" they were delighted with such philosophy as he preached, and he did go on, congratulating himself and them that his "phiin doctrine" was not distasteful to them. Oh ! wlnit a pity it is for the memory of Aaron Burr, tliat he lived fifty years too soon I He would have had no competitor in the Baltimore or Kichmond Conventions for the nomination by this party for the Presidency. [Applause.] For I am told that when a gentleman named Baldwin, from the State of New York, attempted to say something in the Kichmond Convention favorable to the Union, he was called to order, and not allowed to proceed with his remarks. What did liurr design against his country beyond that of dismembering the Union and establishing a Southern Confederacy ? What more and what less do these Democrats contemplate or threaten ? And in what are they better than he, and why are they patriots and he a traitor, whom every child is taught in infancy to abhor ? But that is not all. We have the opinions of other gentlemen on the subject. I hardly need tell you what is Mr. Yancey's position, or read his Slaughter letter that has been published in every newspaper — no, not in all. I do not know whether it has been in every newspaper, for I do not believe that the Breckinridge papers will publish it. [Applause.] But I will read to you what he says: "No national party can save us, no sectional party can ever do it. But if we could do as our fathers did — organize Committees of Safety all over the Cotton States (and it is only in them that we can hope for any effective movement), we shall fire the Southern heart, instruct the Southern mind, give courage to each other, and at the proper moment, by one organized, concerted action, we can i)recipitate the Cotton States into a revolution." January 11, 1860, before the Alabama Democratic Convention, he said: " But in the Presidential contest a Black Republican may be elected. If tb's dire event should happen, in my opinion the only hope for the South is in a withdrawal from the Union before he sball be inaugurated." But he .says again : " Upon that question I bide my time, and shall be ready with the readiest, believing at the same time that sufficient cause exists for a resort to that expedient, even now if it were expedient." Upon his present course, as taken during his tour through the Northern States, the Edjejield (S. C.) Advertiser says : "But why should Mr. Yancey endeavor to fight against the general conviction that he is a Dis- unionist ? It is the very thing that has given bim strength in the present hour of strife. It is cer- tainly the cause why many South Carolinians have thrown up their bats for him. Take away his Disunion strength, and Mr. Yancey, it seems to us, will be another Samson, shorn of his strength. * ;?**«•* "At all events, we venture the assertion that ninety-nine hundredths of the Disunionists 'per ae' at the South are perfectly satisfied with Mr. Yancey's extremeisni ; is it not true that they believe him to be the ruling .spirit of approaching dissolution ? and if this estimate of him be correct, is it not much better and much wiser that he should drop a mere warfare of policy and come out boldly for Disunion in certain contingencies?" Well, now, it was not necessary to undertake to show you that Mr. Yancey is a disunionist. But we have something more of it in our own State. Your late Governor, Mr. Wise, has made a speech recently, which I have not read, but I am told he takes the ground that the election of Lincoln would be an act of war ; and on my way here this morning I saw an article taken from The Rich- mond Enquirer, in which that paper says : " Virginia can no more prevent the dissolution of this Union after Lincoln's election, than she can prevent that election. She will be powerless to prevent civil war, with all its attendant horrors. Any one of the Southern States can, and some of them will involve the whole country, North as well as South, in the internecine strife of a bloody and desolating civil war. Virjinia tcill, by a majority of her people, decide upon resistance, whWe fi large minority may desire to postpone resistance for the 'overt act;' but hitched as she is to the Southern States, she will be dragged into a common destiny with them, no matter what may bo the desire of the people. We believe that a large ma- jority of the people of Virginia, if the opportunity of a State Convention was allowed them, would vote for immediate resistance and for a common destiny with the Southern States ; and with this belief we would advise the Slave States not to hesitate to strike an early blow from fear that Vir- ginia may hesitate in her duty to the South." Now, gentlemen, I'will not trust myself to characterize that article. I confess I have not lan- guage to express my utter abhorrence and indignation at reading such an article from the leading organ of the Breckinridge party in this State. The English vocabulary would not more than fur- nish me with terms to say what I think of it. One thing I have to say, however, is this, and I say it with all becoming respect for Mr. Buchanan, between whom and myself have always existed feelings of kindness and respect, and I still feel for him a warm personal regard ; but of his political course I wish I could say less than I am obliged to gay ; but if be knew his duty, and had the firm- ness to execute it, it is my solemn conviction he would not only have the authors of that article, but every man who preaches disunion and endeavors to stir up rebellion in the Government, instan- taneously arrested; and if I were President of the United States, so help me God, I would do it before the week ran out. [Great applause.] I would have them arrested for conspiracy to levy war against the United Stat«8 — not for war or treason, but for high misdemeanor, for conspiracy to levy war against the Uniteil States ; and I would test the strength of the law to ascertain whether the frauera of the Cuustitutiou had given it the power to protect itself. In the trial of Asiron Burr, who, by the by, was acquitted of a charge of treason on a technicality of law raised by my father, who was one of his counsel, on the question of what constituted an overt act, he was acquitted of a charge of treason, because they could not prove the overt act; and then he was arraigned for misdemeanor — for conspiracy to levy war against the United States, and the country was ransacked during the administration of Mr. Jefferson, (who knew his duty and had the nerve to perform it,) that they might establish upon him, by hia correspondence, the charge of mis- demeanor, and if there could have been found a tithe of what these gentlemen furnish against themselves, he would not have gone unpunished. In that trial, Chief Jvistice Marshall, one of the purest men and one of the profoundest expounders of law that ever adorned the Bench of this or any other country, says ; '•Judge Chase has been particularly clear and explicit in an opinion which he appears to have prepared on great consideration ; he says the quota of opinion, that if a body of people conspire and meditate an insurrection to resist or oppose the execution of a statute of the United States, they are guilty of a high misdemeanor. But if they proceed to carry that intention into execution, they are guilty of the treason of levying war, and the quantnm of force employed neither increases nor diminishes the crime." Again, Judge Marshall says: *' Any combination to subvert by force the Government of the United States; violently to dis- member the Union ; to compel a change in the Administration; to coerce the repeal or adoption of a general law, is a conspiracy to levy war ; and if conspiracy be carried into effect by the actual em- ployment of force, by the embodying and assembling of men, for the purpose of executing the treasonable design which was previously conceived, it amounts to a levying of war." Well, now, the question is. Are these gentlemen engaged in any attempt to subvert the Govern- ment, to change the Arainistration, to coerce an election, or to defeat an election ; and if they are are they not, under that decision, thus pronounced guilty of high misdemeanor; and, if so, why is it that the President of the United States sits with his arms folded without any attempt to arrest it? Well, he happens to belong to the same political party; he has, in fact, descended from hia high estate and come down into the political arena. He either does not know, or has not the manli- ness to perform, his duty to the country. It might be a difficult matter to convict sttch men as Mr. Yancey, and a partial jury might acquit him, but the moment he opened his mouth again on the subject, I would have him arrested again : and if he again opened upon the subject, after having been again acquitted, I would arrest him again. [Applause.] And so with all the rest of them in this State as well as in Alabama and South Carolina. Suppose a body of men were marching up and down the streets of our principal cities with drum and fife, to recruit or enlist soldiers, for the purpose of taking possession of or subverting the Government, or raising the standard of rebellion against the United States in the event of a contingency' which was almost sure to happen, would there be any hesitation as to the propriety of their arrest? and if public speaking and writing in the newspapers are deemed more efficient means for the accomplishment of the same objects, why should not the same steps be taken towards them ? Now, gentlemen, we come to a very important question, and that ia, Is this Union going to be dissolved ? Well, I do not think it is. [Applause.] I think I can see as clearly as I can see any- thing, how this matter is going to terminate. I speak in the event of Lincoln's election. I do nofc say iie will be elected. Every intelligent man will admit that there is a prospect for his election. I will neither discourage my friends by saying he will be elected, nor will I mislead the public luind by saying he will not be elected. I treat it only as a possible contingency ; as an event that may be upon us in the course of the next three weeks. Is his election to bring about a dissolution of the Union ? I do not think it will. If he is elected, I have no doubt the fiery Governors of the Cotton States will send flaming messages on the subject to their Legislatures. But the Legislatures can do nothing. It is only the people in convention assembled that can take any active hostile measures. The members of the Legislatures will make inflammatory speeches, and the subject will finally be referred to a committee. The committee will act upon it at their leisure, and toward the close of the session, they will report that inasmuch as Virginia and the other Southern border States are not prepared to act upon the subject, it is premature for them to move, and they will postpone the evil day until the border States are prepared to go with them. [Great applause.] I say, in the first place, the Union is not going to be dissolved, for the reason that they have no right to dissolve the Union for any such cause. It is no more cause for a dissolution of the Union that Lincoln should be elected, if a majority of the people of the United States, acting under the forms prescribed in the Constitution, and in accordance with the laws of the country, slioald choose to elect him, than it would have been in the year 1800, for the Federal party to have dissolved the Union on account of the election of Mr. Jefferson. The Federalists were as hostile to the Demo- cratic party then, as the Democratic party are to the Republican party at the present day, and if it was not cause for dissolution then, it is not cause now; and if it were good cause then, it is good cause now. If it were good cause, we all should be revolutionists; I should have been a revolu- tionist all my life, for I have never seen the man of my choice elected President. But I yield to the Constitution and the laws of my country, and to the expressed will of the majority of the people of the United States. When did this right of revolution, this right to secede from the Union — when did it begin ? If it exists now, did it not exist from the time of the adoption of the Constitution? But I come to that subject presently. Is it necessary that I should introduce authority here to show that there is no right to dissolve the Government for any such cause ? I have the authority here. But, to be sure, it is of no great weight. It is only that of a number of insignificant characters, whose opinions never did exert any ipfluence over the public mind, especially of late years, since we have been blessed with the present SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. 11 generation of politicians and statesmen. We have a new set of unfledged politicians, many of them just from school, who speak flippantly of the institutions founded by our fathers, who give laws to the country as leaders and organs of parties, and they tell us they have the right to secede from the Union. And what of it, if I bring before you the opinions of such men as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, and Bpeneer Hoaue, to ofi"set the opinions of these mushroon politicians? And yet Mr. Madison said thoy had no such power; for when New York proposed to come into the Confederacy upon the condition that she should be permitted to ofi'er cer- tain amendments to the Constitution, and Mr. Hamilton wrote to Mr. Madison to know if New York could come into the Union upon such conditions, what does Mr. Madison say: " .My opinion is, that a reservation of a right to withdraw, if amendments be not decided on under the form of the Constitution within a certain time, is a conditional ratification ; that it does not make New York a member of the new Union, and, consequently, that she could not be received on that plan. Compacts must be reciprocal : this principle would not in such a case be preserved. The Constitution requires an adoption in toto, and foreveu. It had been so adopted by the other States, An adoption for a limited time would be as defective as an adoption of some of the articles only. The idea of reserving a right to withdraw was started at Richmond, and considered as a conditional ratification, which was itself abandoned as worse than a rejection." In a letter written to Mr. Webster in 1833, Mr. Madison says : " I return you my thanks for your late very powerful speech in the Senate of the United States It crushes nullification, aud mitst hasten au nbuudoument of seceaaion." Speaking in the same letter of the Constitution, he says : " It mtikes the government, like other governments, to operate directly on the people; places at its command the needful physical means of executing its powers ; and finally, proelitims its supremacy, and that of the laws made in pursuance of it, over the Constitu- tions and laws of the States — the powers of the Government being exercised, as in ot'her elective and responsible governments, under the control of its constituents, the people, and the Legislatures of the States, and subject to the revolutionary rights of the people in extreme eases." Mr. Madison to Edward Everett (Miles's Register, supplement to vol. 43, pp. 25, 26, 27), August, 1830, says: A political system that does not provide for a peaceable and authoritative termination of existing controversies would not be more than the shadow of a government, the object and end of a real government being the substitution of law and order for uncertainty, confusion, and violence In the event of a failure of every constitutional resort, and an accumulation of lasurpations and abuses, rendering passive obedience and non-re- sistance a greater evil than resistance and revolution, there can remain but one resort, the last of all — an appeal from the canceled obligations of the constitutional compact to the original rights and the law of self-preservation. This is the ultima ratio of all govern- ments, whether consolidated, confederated, or a compound of both. It cannot be doubted that a single member of the Union in the extremity supposed, but in tuat only, would have a right, as an extra and ultra constitutional right, to make the appeal." Again, Mr. Madison says : " The distinguished names and high authorities which appear to have asserted and given a practical scope to this doctrine, (nullification), entitles it to a respect which it might be difficult otherwise to feel for it." Under the old articles of confederation, which I shall refer to more particularly hero- after, Mr. Jefferson held that it was not necessary to give the power to Congress under the Constitution to enforce anything — for example, contributions of money — for they have it by the law of nature. He says : " It has been so often said, as to be generally believed, that Congress has no power, % the confederation, to enforce anything — for example, contributions of money. It was not necessary to give them that power expressly — they have it by the law of nature. When tioo parties make a compact, there results to each the potver of compelling the other to execute it. Com- pulsion was never so easy as in our case, when a single frigate would soon levy on the com- merce of any State the deficiency of its contributions." There, under the old articles of confederation, Mr. Jefferson recognizes the power of the Government to resort to force by sending troops into a State and compelling contributions. You have all heard of the Hartford Convention, but you never heard the name of any man connected with that treasonable movement [which first proposed to secede from the Union during the war] but in terms of scorn and ignominy; Mr. AVebster, who was charged by his political opponents with having boon a member of that Convention, but which he uniformly disclaimed, yet even he with all his subsequent services to his country, did not live long enough to remove the stain that rested upon him under the chai'ge that he was a member of that l)()dy, the design of which was disunion or revolution, under circumstunces one hundred fold more trying than those under which we are now threat- ened with it. At that time there was another gentleman who exerted a great influence over the minds of the Democracy of the State, who is now no more — I mean Thomas Ritchie, of The Richmond Enquirer. The Enquirer of that day — then under the control of 12 SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. the party headed by Mr, Jefferson — and with the whole body of the ablest men of the Democracy in the Union as its contributors and advisers, and when no step was taken by that paper that was not approved by the "Junto" — said: "No man, no association of men, no State or set of States has a right to withdraw itself from the Union of its own accord. The same power which knit us together can unknit. The same formality which formed the links of the Union is necessary to dissolve it. The majority of States which formed the Union must consent to the withdrawal of any one branch of it. Until that consent has been obtained, any attempt to dissolve the Union or obstruct the efficacy of its Constitutional laws, is Treason — Tkeason to all intents AND PURPOSES." I need hardly refer you to the proclamation of General Jackson in 1833, which is, doubtless, familiar to many of you, in which he declared he w'ould enforce the execution of the laws in South Carolina, when she refused to submit to the revenue laws. Yes, and though he was the Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and had control of both for the purpose of enabling him to execute the laws, not being able to measure the exact amount of the resistance his troops would meet with, he called on Congress for additional forces under what has been known as the "Force Bill," and they gave him all he desired, and they did right, for the reason that if the law was wrong it should have been repealed, and if not repealed, whether right or wrong, as long as it remained on the Statute-book of the United States it should have been enforced, fur there is no such thing as government without law, and no such thing as law without the power to enforce it. After stating that a Convention held in the State of South Carolina had ordained that that State was no longer a member of the Union unless the revenue laws were repealed, Gen. Jackson says : " No act of violent opposition to the laws has yet been committed, but such a state of things is hourly apprehended, and it is the intent of this instrument to proclaim not only that the duty imposed upon me by the Constitution to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, shall be performed to the extent of the powers already vested in me by the law, or of such others as the wisdom of Congress shall desire and intrust to me for that purpose, but to warn the citizens of South Carolina, who have been deluded into an opposition to the laws, of the danger they will incur by obedience to the illegal and disorganizing ordinance of the Convention The laws of the United States must be executed. I have no discretionary power on the subject. My duty is emphatically pronounced in the Constitution. Those who told you that you might peaceably prevent their execution, de- ceived you. They could not have been deceived themselves ; they know that a forcible opposition could alone prevent the execution of the laws, and they know that such opposi- tion must be repelled. Their object is Disunion. But be not deceived by names. Dis- union by armed force is treason. Are you ready to incur its guilt? If you are, on the heads of the instigators of the act be the dreadful consequences : on their heads be the dishonor ; but on yours rnay fall the punishment. On your unhappy State will inevit- ably fall all the evils of the conflict you force upon the Government of your country. It cannot accede to the mad project of Disunion, of which you would be the first victims. Its first Magistrate cannot if he would avoid the performance of his duty. The conse- quence must be fearful for you, distressing to your fellow-citizens here, and to the friends of good government throughout the world. .".... Snatch from the archives of your State the disorganizing edict of its convention: bid the members to re-assemble and prom- ulgate the decided expression of your will to remain in the faith which alone can conduct you to safety, prosperity, and honor. Tell them that compared to disunion all other evils are light, because that brings with it an accumulation of ills. Declare that you will never take the field unless the star spangled banner of your country shall float over you; that you will not be stigmatized when dead, and dishonored and scorned while you live, as the authors of the first attack on the Constitution of your country. Its destroyers you cannot be. You may disturb its peace ; you may interrupt the course of its prosperity ; you may cloud its reputation for stability ; but its tranquility will be restored, its prosperity will return, and the stain upon its national character will be transferred and remain an eternal blot on the memory of those who caused the disorder." The force bill passed the Senate by a vote of 32 to 1, and in the House by 149 to 48. But apart from all this, I hold in my hand an authority still higher than that, an authority higher than law, and discarding all those gentlemen have said, in former times, supposing them to have left nothing upon record, I still appeal to the Constitution of my country to show that there is no such right as the right of secession. [Great applause.] This Constitution declares that. " This Constitution, and the laws of the United States, which shall be made in pursuance thereof, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding." Who adopted this Constitution of the United"^ States ? We, the people of Virginia, SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. B0TT3. 13 through our representatives in Convention, are just as much parties to the Constitution of the United States as to our own Constitution. But let us go buck a little. Let us fjo back to tlie Articles of Confederation under which we lived befure the Constitution was adopted, and see what we did there. My purpose is to show you thai this is a perpetual Umon. which there is no power to destroy. [Applause.] Under the old Articles of ConlVderation it is proved " that no two States shall enter into any alliances whatever between iheni without the consent of Congress, specifying accurately the purpose for which the same is to be entered into, and how long it shall continue." Again, Article 13th: " Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress assem- bled on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them : and the articles of this confed«'ration shall be inviolably observed by every State, AND THE UNION SHALL BE PERPETUAL." And the concluding article reads : ♦' And we do further solemnly plight and engage the faith of our respective constituents, that the}' shall abide by the deterniiiiatiun of the United States in Congress asembied on all questions which by the said confederation are submitted to them. And that the articles thereof shall be inviolably observed bv the States we respectfully represent and that THE UNION SHALL BE PERPETUAL." There was the compact between the States, — there was the marriage ceremony solemnly performed in the face of the world, by which we bound ourselves together for better or fur worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and iu health, in prosperity and in adversity, througli good and evil report, till death do us part. [Great apjilause.] And under this Constitution of the United States it is declared that "-we the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquil- lity, &c., &c., &c., do ordain and establish this Constitution for the L^nited States of America." " To make this a more perfect Union." And in what respect did they make it moro perfect ? They provided for its perpetuity by giving to the Government the power to enforce its laws and protect its own existence. Yes, but gentlemen say, it is a reserved right! JIoio was it reserved ? When was it re- served ? Where was it reserved ? It is a reserved riirht in ti)eir own imaginations, and there only. What a calumny and libel upon the name and fame of the great and good men who made the Constitution, to say that when they declared that tlie constitution of the United St;ites, and all laws made under it, should be the supreme law of tlie land, and that the Judges of llie courts in the several States should be bound thereby ; when they prohibited you from the right, even in your organic law, in the adoption of your State Constitution, to say or do any thing that Would, to any extent, conflict with any law made under it ; that they reserve the right to permit the violation of the ('onstitution and all law, at any moment it suited their pleasure, whim, caprice, or supposed interest to do so. Why, when did tiiat right begin ? Here I have shown you it was a perpetual contract, that it was never intended to be dissolved ; and yet, after they l)ad done their work, one State, on the very next day, had the right to withdraw and bn uk up the whole ! with or without cause ; they being made judges of tlie cause. ^ Reserved rijrhts I And what is the argument used by Mr. Yancey, in a speech he made the other day in Bos- ton ? Just that which is used by all tliese gentlemen wliotalk about reserved rights — that all tlic powers not granted to the Federal Government are reserved to the States. W\'ll, I nevei heard one of these gentlemen quote correctly that leature of the Constitution yet. Whether they omit it from ignorance or design, it is not for me to say. Unless they mean to mislead the public mind, 1 can hardly account for it, why it is they do not quote it rightly. The article reads : "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the Stales, are reserved respectively to the State:* or to the people." Now, I have just read another clause of the constitution, wiiich shows you u-hat is prohibited to the States. And what is prohibited to the States? It is that you shall do nothing by State law or constitutional provision that shall conflict with tiie perpetual contract made under it, by opposing or obstructing the Constitution and laws made under it. Oh ! that I had the eloquence of your heavenly gifted and venerated father [turning to a son of Patrick ficnry, who sat near him on the platform] that I might make my voice heard through- out the lengtli and breadth of tlie land. The Union would, were I a Patrick Henry, or he alive, need but one advocate to insure its satety. Unbounded applause) " The powers not delegated to tlie United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it, are reserved to the States or the people," and Mr. Yancy argues that because power was not dele gated to the Federal Government to destroy itself, therefijre the power was reserved to the States to destroy it. What were the powers reserved ? Powers fur all legitimate subjects of legislation — your own domestic institutions, fi»r instaucc — Slavery (or t)ne. That is a power withheld by the Constitution of the United States. It is a power re- served too from the Congress, the States, and the people wlio own the slaves. Tlie pewer to sol- emnize marriages, to establish the laws of descent, to reguLte the right of suffrage. Bui. is the 14 SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. power to destroy reserved ? It is prohibited in express terms. The Federal Government wag not clothed with the power to destroy my person-or my property ; ergo^ says Mr. Yancey, thnt power is reserved to the States or the people, and only reserved to the States or the people, be- cause it is not conferred upon Congress. I do not know whether the power is vested in you, the people, to deprive me of my property or to cut my throat ; but such power is in you or in the State Government because it is not granted to Congress; and therefore all powers not con- ferred on the Federal Government are reserved to the people or to the States. As I said before, there is something solemn in the marriage compact of these States. The wife, on entering the marriage state, binds herself to obe}' her husband just as we bound ourselves to obey the laws of the country, and the Constitution of the United States. But she has an ugly, crabbed, old husband with whom she becomes dissatisfied, and she claims that she reserves to herself, in her own mind, the right to destroy by poison, and withdraw in search of a more congenial partner. Some old man has an ugly old wife, and sees a handsome, rich young woman, and falls in love with youth, beauty, and Avealth, and though he did bind himself perpetually to the marriage contract, yet, casting aside the marriage tie, and forgetting the sacred compact, he says, " Though I did enter into such an agreement, there were mental reservations of my own [laughter] — certain reserved rights by which I can withdraw, and form another and more favorable alliance." Now I would advise all the secession men to go over to the Free Love party. [Laugh- ter.] There is where they belong, and there is where their doctrines would be appre- ciated. [Renewed laughter.] But in sober truth, what does this doctrine of the right of secession lead us to? In the year 1803, Mr. Jefterson purchased the Territory of Louisiana from France, and through that territory runs the Mississippi river. He acknowledged there was no con- stitutional authority for the purchase, and even asked for an amendment to the Constitu- tion legalizing what he had done. And why did he do it ? Now, why did Mr. Jeflerson purchase Louisiana, in violation of all constitutional authority? It was because the navigation of the Mississippi was essential to the interest of a number of the old States as well as to the interest of a number since formed. It was necessary to the commerce of Western Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi — to Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and all the North Western States. He paid $15,000,000 for it — a misserable pittance in comparison with its real value. Mr. Jeflerson made a purchase indispensable to the commerce and welfare of the country. But when we had bought it, and made for the convenience of our own people a magnifi- cent trade, and admitted Louisiana as a State, how easy it would have been on the part of Louisiana to say, " I do not like this Constitution of yours quite as well as I thought I would. I think I can do better to set up in business as an independent State, and levy tonnage dut}'' on all the produce that comes down the Ohio and Mississippi rivers." They would have said, " We purchased and paid for you, and admitted you into copartnership with us; but since you did come in, you must remain perpetually." How would it be in the case of the purchase of Cuba ? Great anxiety has been dis- plaved on the part of this Government to purchase Cuba, and a minister was sent for the purpose of making an offer of $200,000,000 or 8300,000,000 for that island. Now, estab- lish the doctrine of the right of secession, and see how it will operate in the event that she be purchased. You admit her into the Union. There are reserved rights on the part of Cuba, and there is a reserved determination on the part of Spain. The day after the admission of Cuba this reserved determination of Spain is whispered into her ear. She is equal in all respects to the other States of the Union, and with equal rights to go out or stay in. She demands of the Government an exorbitant duty to be laid on sugars, for her es- pecial benefit — it is denied, and Cuba secedes from the L^nion. Do you think Mr. Bu- chanan would have any difficulty in purchasing Cuba if this were the established doc- trine of the United States? I think an arrangement could very easily be made with Spain to part with Cnba, if such were the case. How in regard to Texas ? we purchased Texas of herself, at a cost of 810,000,000. We went to war also for Texas, and paid in blood and treasure, millions for the total. It was matter of negotiation whether we should assume her public debt, or not, it was doneindirectly, but not iu terms, she was left in the enjoyment of all her public lands in lieu ot the assumption of her debts, but that would not affect the question. Suppose the debt had been assumed to other foreign governments, how then would the case have stood ? We would first have paid an equivalent for the State, then we would have gone through a bloody war on her account, then we came under the obligation to meet all just demands held by other governments against her, and at this point she goes to playing pranks, and cutting up her heels just as South Carolina is now doing, and proclaims her independence, and sells herself again to England, or if you prefer the term, annexes herself to England, or enters into treaties of alliance offensive and defensive with England or France, or both, as South Carolina now proposes to do. What would sensible, rea- vSPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN ]SI. BOTTS. 15 soning, reflecting men have to say about it? Yet her right do all this, is just exactly equal to tiiiit ot' South Carolina in her present position. I liave been talking about the right to dissolve the Union. I now come to the power to do so. Have you the ^ou'cr to secede ? If the United States Government, numbering 32,0U0,()(l0 puo- pic, is clothed with the power that I think it is, and that .Madison suid it was, and wliich you find during the Administration of General Jackson it actually was, I think it would bo a very difficult m:itter to oppose or resist the United States, Tliere are 3:2,(J00,UU0 of inhabitants, in- cluiiing blacks and whites, and I suppose about 28,1)00,000 tree whites m the United Statt:s. We are in the habit of hearing gentletnen, on the Fourth of July, making patriotic speeches, de- claring that the Government of the United States is able and ready to cojie with the world in arms if necessary ; and yet it has not the power to resist little South Carolina. [Applause.] That is playing the game of bluflf rather too strong — it does not dovetail together well. A South Carolina orator will say the same of the Government, that the combined forces of the woiKl cannot overthrow it : and yet a "retired philosopher" on the banks of the Potomac, can do it with twelve intrepid Virginians. What is the power and what are the resources of the United States? When you talk about all the Southern States combined competing with the Federal Government, it is all moonshine and nonsense when you come to put it into practical operation. Suppose you all go out, what do you carry ? You carry nothing, but you leave everything be- hind you. You leave the Public Treasury. There is not much of that just now, however, under Mr. Buchanan's Administration : but it is coming in, by degrees. [Laughter.] You leave the aruiy, the navy, the public lands, the fortifications, all the dock yards, all the public property of every de- seri])tion, munitions of war and all. And what have you got to tight with? Virginia could not furnish clothes foi' her men. It has taken all our money to hang John Brown and his confederates. [Laughter.] What do» you propose to carry out with you ? Nothing. And what will you fight upon ? Nothing. Alabama is in a state of actual starvation. She had to call the Legislature together to provide the common necessaries of life for her people. I will tell you my opinion on the subject. I mean no personal disrespect to any gentleman. I doubt not, as Mark Anthony said of Brutus, •' and the rest," they are all, all honorable men ; men who are very bold, chlvalric and patriotic, possessing any amount of physical courage; but I do say, a more base, unmanly and co^vardly proposi'ion was never submitted to an intelligent people on the face of the earth. [Applause.] What is their proposition? It is to run away, not only before we are whipped, but before we are even struck a blow. [Great applause.] If this was a large private estate, to be divided among us all, would you run away from it? If all the people of the Union were to go in, and each get his share, how many do you suppose would secede and forfeit their share? Not one. Suppose they aU held the bonds of the United S'ates fbr the moderate sum of $10,000 each, to be forfeited by them whenever they seceded from the Union, how many do you think would run away and leave them behind? Now, if you would not run away from your private estate, why attempt to persuade me to run from my public estate? Tbis is our Government; this is our Union, our Treasury, our Army, our Navy; it all belongs to us — vviiy persuade us to run away and leave them behind, I say not only before we are whipped, but before we are struck a blow? No, I will not ruu — I see no occasion for running — and when the occasion does come, which I do not look for, I will claim my own, and I will tight, if jiecessary, for my rights in the Union. What would you think of some rich old farmer, who had a tine estate in copartnership with somebody else. He had made a large crop of tobacco, bad plenty of wheat in his barn, and corn very abundant — enough of this world's goods, in fact, to enable him to enjoy all that a luxurious appetite could desire — and he was suddenly to quit his estate, his family and his crops, and the next thing you heard of him he was down in Texas, and somebody asked him, " What induced you to ran away and leave such a fine estate?" and his reply should be, " Oti! I had a partner who every morning came to the fence and shook his fist at me, and threatened to take my estate from me; and I thought it best to run off and leave it all to him!" [Laughter.] That is just what these people propose to do. I am for standing here and fighting for my rights, if necessary. They call me a submissionist. What do I submit to? I submit to the Con- stiturjon and the laws of my country. [Applause.] And even in my day, gentlemen, the time has been when he who was not a submissionist, in the sense in which I am a submissionint, would have entitled himself to a cravat not made of silk. [Applause.] I hope these gentlemen will not pash the matter to such an extreme as to entitle themselves to it; but if they do, I trust such ex- amples will be made as will have salutary and effective influence for the future. [Applause.] Havin;^ discussed the riirht and the power to secede from the Union, I say we will not be dis- turbed with this ghost of disunion, and you will hear no more of it after passion has had time w subside, because there is no cause for it. Is there any law of which they complain ? Is there any man who is now disturbed by any federal law in the quiet possession of his property? There is no', a law on the statute book which the Democracy of the Southern country has not passed. They have had absolute and uncontrolled management of the legislation of the country from the year 1800 to the year 1860. So that, if there is any law on the statute book that ought not to have been passed, just get out of the way and we will repeal all those laws for you. [Applause.] Some gentlemen seem to open their eyes when I say the Democratic party has had control of the Government for the past sixty years. It would be more correct to say that the Opposition to Democracy has never had the legislative control of the country. I know they think there have been 8>3veral intervals, such as the administrations of Mr. Adams and others. But Congress was oppose! to him and he had no legislative power. So in 1810 we elected Gen. Harrison, who died withiu a month after his inauguration. We then had both branches of Congress, and the Presi- 16 SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. dent on our side. But General Harri«on died before Congress met, and consequently nothing was done during that period. Vv^hea he died we had a Vice President and the two Houses of Con- gress; but I do not think Ti'ler had beea there a week before he was purchased by the Domocraiic party — a debt which they afterward repudiated. I mention this only as a historical fact and from no desire to deal unkindiv with things long passed away. We all know he deserted us to become a rcDresentative of ihe D.emocratic party; and when we had the two Houses of Congress we had no President to caiTV out our views; so they still continued in control of the legislation of the country. So it was' when General Taylor was elected; and when Fillmore was there we, had both branches of Congress against us; so that, in fact, we have never had the control of the Govern- ment from the year 1800 down to the present day. Well, if there is anv law of 1, against the admission of anymore Slave States into the Union, even if the people want them? A. I do not now, nor ever did stand pledged against the admission of any more Slave States into the Union. Q. 3. I want to know whether he stands pledged against the admission of a new State into the Union with such a Constitution as the people of that State may see fit to make? A. I do not stand pledged against the admission of a new State into the Union with such a Constitution as the people of that State may see fit to make. Q 4. I want to know whether he stands to-day pledged to the abolition of Slavery in the Dis- trict of Columbia? A. I do not stand pledged to-day to the abolition of Slavery in the District of Columbia, Q. 5. I desire him to answer whether he stands pledged to the prohibition of the Slave trade between the diflferent States? A. I do not stand pledged to the prohibition of the Slave trade between the different States. Q. (3 I desire to know whether he stands pledged to prohibit Slavery in all the Territories of the United States, North as well as South of the Missouri Compromise line? A, I am implicitly, if not expressly pledged to a belief in the right and duty of Congress to prohibit Slavery in all the United States TerriTories. Q. 7. I desire him to answer whether he is opposed to the acquisition of any new territory, unlets Slavery is fir^t prohibited therein? A. I am not generally opposed to honest acquisition of territory; and, in any s^ivon case, I would or would not oppose such acquisition accordingly as I might think such acquisition would or would not aggravate the Slavery question among our- Bolves. At a subsequent period of the same speech, he said he should regret that any Tenitory should ask to come into the Union as a Slave State; but if the people thus asked admission into the Union, he did not consider that a sufficient ground of objection to their admission. In another speech, which I will read from, he says : — " Before proceeding let me say, I think I have no prejudice against the Southern people. They are just what we would be in their situation. If Slavery did not now exist among them, they would not introduce it. If it did now exist among us, we should not instantly give it up. — This I believe of the masses North and South. Doubtless there are individuals on both sides who would not hold slaves under any circumstances; and others who would madlj' introduce Slavery anew if it were out of existence. We know that some Southern men do free their slaves, cro North, and become tip-top Abolitionists; while some Northern ones go South and become most cruel slave masters. " When Southern people tell us they are no more responsible for the oriirin of Slavery than we, I acknowledge the fact. When it is said that the institution exists, and that it is very difficult to get rid of it in any satisfactory way, I can understand and appreciate the saying. I surely will not blame them for not doing what I should not know how to do myself. If all earthly power were iriven me, I should not know what to do as to the existing institution. My first impulse would" be to free all the slaves and send them to Liberia, to their own native land. But a mo- ment's reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the lonir run, its sudden execution is impossible. If they were all landed in a dav they would al' perish in the next ten days, and there are not surplus shipping and surplus 20 SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. money enough in the world to carry them there in many times ten days. What then? Free them all and keep them among us underlings? Is it quite certain that this betters their condi- tion? I tbink I v^ould not hold one in slavery at any rate; yet the point is not clear enough to me to denounce people upon. What next? Free them, and make them politically and socially our equals ? My own t'eeliags will not admit of this ; and if mine would, we know that those of the great mass of white people will not. Whether this feeling accords with justice and sound judgment, is not the sole que3iion, if, indeed, it is any part of it. A universal feeling, whether well or ill founded, cannot be safely disregarded. We cannot, then, make them equals. It does seem to me that systems of gradual emancipation might be adopted; but for their tardiness in this, I will not undertake to judge our brethren in the South. " When they remind us of their Constitutional rights, I acknowledge them, not grudg- ingly, but fully and fairly ; and I would give them any legislation for the reclaiming of their fugitives, which should not, in its stringG-ncy, be more likely to carry a free man into slavery, than our ordinary criminal laws are to hang an innocent one. "But all this, to my judgment, furnishes no more excuse for permitting Slavery to go into our own free territory, than it would for reviving the African slave-trade by law. The law which forbids the bringing of slaves from Africa, and that which has so long forbid the taking of them to Nebraska can hardly be distinguished on any moral principle ; and the repeal of the former could find quite as plausible excuses as that of the latter. " I have reason to know that Judge Douglas knows that I said this. I think he haa the answer here to one of the questions he put to me. I do not mean to allow him to catechize me unless he pays back for it in kind. I will not answer questions one after another, unless he reciprocates ; but as he has made this inquiry, and I have answered before, he has got it without my getting anything in return. He has got my answer on the Fugitive Slave law. " Now, gentlemen, I don't want to read at any greater length, but this is the true com- plexion of all I have ever said in regard to the institution of Slavery and the black race. This is the whole of it, and anything that argues me into his idea of perfect social and political equality with the negro is but a specious and fantastic arrangement of words, by which a man can prove a horse-chestnut to be a chestnut horse. I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of Slavery in the States where it exists, I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no pni'pose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position. " Now, I believe if we could arrest the spread, and place it where Washington and Jefferson, and Madison placed it, it would be in the course of ultimate extinction, and the public mind would, as for eighty years past, believe that it was in the course of ultimate extinction. The crisis would be past, and tho institution might be let alone for a hundred years, if it should live so long in the States where it exists, yet it would be going out of existence in the way best for both the black and the white races." We have all heard it stated that be said that if he could not come into Kentucky and Virginia, he would stand on the banks of the Ohio and fire into these States. Here is his own explanation of what has been thus ascribed to him. He says : "As the Judge had so flattered me, I could not make up my mind that he meant to deal unfairly with me; so I went to work to show him that he misunderstood the whole scope of my speech, and that I really never intended to set the people at ^var with one another. As an illustration, the next time I met him, which was at Springfield, I used this expression : that I claimed no right under the Constitution, nor bad I any inclination to enter into the Slave States and interfere with the institutions of Slavery. He says, upon that, ' Lincoln will not enter into the Slave States, but will go to the banks of the Ohio, on this side, and shoot over ! He runs on, step by step, in the horse-chestnut "style of argument, until he shall have extinguished Slavery in all the States ; the Union shall be dissolved.' Now, I don't think that was exactly the way to ' treat a kind, amiable, intelligent gentleman.' I know if I had asked the Judge to show when or where it was I had said that, if I didn't succeed in firing into the Slave States until Slavery should be extinguished, the Union should be dissolved, he could not have shown it. I understand what he would do. He would say, ' I don't mean to quote from you, but this was the result of what you say.' But I have the right to ask, and I do ask now, Did you not put it in such a form that an ordinary reader or listener would take it as an expression from me?" That is as much of the record of Lincoln as I feel to be necessary to read. I have heard a great deal about him, as about other men in public life, but I do not believe any- thing I hear about^any public man until it is proved to be true. I have good roasim for it ; for I have seen such frightful pictures drawn. of myself that neither I nor any friend of mine, X amsufe, would eyer recognize the likeness. SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. 21 The next question is, I3 there any remedy fur all this ? There i.«, and it is one which we can sustain ourselves upon, by tlie Coiistitutiun, by our own eonsciunces, by common honesty, and by common aense. Go back to the Constitution as our fathers made it. Tills is u Jew doctrine preaclied — that of forcing; Slavery into a Territory where it is not wanted. It is not to be strengthened but weak- ened by division. It is not for the purpose of strengthening Slavery that the Democratic party want to carry Slavery into the Territories, but to strengthen the Democratic party itself. Cut up the slave property, and divide it among the States and Territories, according to their federal num* bers, aud it would not exist twenty years in any one of them. The power itself would become so weak, and the antagonistic power of free labor so strong, it Wuuid be extinguished everywhere. Keep it where it is, and it constitutes a moral force which will always sustain itself. Senator Muson said the public mind had undergone a great change siuce the ndoption of the Constitution. It is true — but, unfortunately for him and his party North, the public mind has not kept pace wilh the changes of the South, and, what is of still more cousequence, the Constitution has not changed. Let us be satisfied to keep our slaves where they are; and let us demand, at all hazards, and yoder all circumstances, that we shall not be interfered with by the Northern States. That ia all it ia necessary for us to do; but in order to do that you must first get rid of Democratic politi- cians, [applause] — men who in a number of instances have not the heart to feel nor the brain to ci>noeive the cousequences of their folly; men who have kept alive this Slavery agitation because it is the only means by which they can obtain the favor of the people, and secure the power to them- selves, by presenting themselves to the people as the exclusive champions of Slavery; men who never did own a slave on earth, and probably never will, yet denounce me who am a slaveholder, and all the slaveholders in the country, every man, no matter what his interest in slave property, aa an Abolitionist, unless he votes the Democratic ticket; who have kept the agitation alive for their own selfish purposes, and who will keep it alive, no matter what will bo the consequences to your peace and happiness, or to the safety of the Union. Get rid of Democracy. But when we tell them that, some demagogue will take the stand and say. Look and see what Democracy has done for the country ! See how it has grown and expanded under Democracy ! We were but thirteen States, and now there are thirty-two I We were but 3,000 000 inhabitants, and now we have grown to 33,000 000 I Well, so have I grown up and expanded under Democracy. [Great laughter.] My family have grown up and expanded. Your families have grown up and in- creased. But pray tell me what had Democracy to do with it? Why, the bees go on and expand and increase their numbers, aud when they get too thick, they swarm, and go out and settle new territory. And it is so with us. The natural increase of our people, with the great influx of for- eigners, has swelled our population to 32,000,000. Would it not have done the same thing under any other rule ? Let us try it awhile. I am afraid to trust them any longer — a party that has brought us to the verge of the precipice — as I lean now over this platform, threatening to precipi- tate us into the gulf of Disunion. They have gone too far to recede. They cannot save the Union. Try some other party, and see if they cannot save the Union. At all events, let us content ourselves with the question of Slavery as it has existed from the formation of the Government. Leave it (Slavery) to climate and produc- tion to regulate itself, and there will be no difficulty on the snbject. If we could change the face of nature, and transfer their long, cold Winters of the North to the South, and our long, hot Sum- mers to the North, they would in twenty years become the Pro-Slavery party, and we the party of Freedom. Well, r.ow, gentlemen, I have said nothing personally against any of the candidates for the Presidency, because it is not my purpose to do so ; and I stand here to-night dis- claiming any intention or desire to speak harshly of any one of them, or to glorify another. I know all of them personally. Breckinridge, I know well, and I know him to be an honorable, high-minded, intelligent gentleman, and one against whose character nothing can be said. Yet I think there is one strong objection to the election of Bn-ck- inridge, I do not moan to say that he is a disunionist, but he has lent his name to a jtarty which had its origin in, and whose avowed purpose is the dissolution of the Union. iStill further is it from me to say he is an Abolitionist. I should feel myself dishonored to stand before you and bring a charge against him that I did not believe to bo true, to effect the election of any man or the success of any party. Another objection to Mr. Breckinridge is, that he is too young, too inexperienced, to take charge of this great empire and administer all its affairs, foreign and domestic. Mr. Douglas is a man of more enlarged experience in public affairs, and a gentleman against whom nothing is to be said. But I think he deserves some jiunishment, independent of my opposition to him on account of his Democracy, for his agency in the repeal of tlio Missouri Compromise. It may bo that we shall ourselves have to support him some of these diiys* I cannot tell. I think the two wings of the party are so far apart that they are not likely to get together again, and the Union portion of the Democracy and our- selves must coalesce in tln^ future. I do not see where they are going to ; they must come to us; we must go to them, or, perhaps, we shall have t<> meet half way. What is tho rea.son of the difference that now exists between the politicians and tho people in this State? It is because there never was any bond of sympathy between ihem. The Calhoun wing held the balance of pow^r originally between the Old Line "Whigs and the Demo- cratic party, and the Democrats were afraid to trust them, and afraid to offend them, and 22 SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. from the first tboy have never given the Old Line Democrats a crumb. The Douglas men are in no better condition than we poor Whigs have been. They have been kept shivering in the cold, without food or clothing. [Laughter.] They want shelter, and the onl}^ way they can got it is to come to us. [Renewed laughter.] As to Mr. Bell, I know him, too. I have heard but one charge against him. I sup- port him not only because he is the candidate of my party, but I support hira because I know him to be a sound, national, conservative, Union.loving man — a man of enlarged ex- perience in public life ; and because I look upon the ticket presented by the party to which I belong as being the most national that has been presented to the country. I have heard that the charge has been made — it was never made in my presence — that he is an Abolitionist. Well, I would not take the trouble to refute it; and I would not offend you, nor do the injustice to him, to regard that charge as worthy of a moment's consideration. [Applause.] The man that would consider the charge, is not worthy of voting. He ought to be excluded by the Commissioners on the ground that the right of suffrage is withheld from all men of unsound mind. [Laughter and applause.] The only answer I have to make to it, is to read from a paper called the Sentinel, a Democratic paper published in Alabama, which says: " How foul ! The Montgomery Advertiser boldly charges Mr. Bell with being an Aboli- tionist. We are no defender of John Bell and his party; but a more base and waiiton charge never was made against any man, than that John Bell is unfriendly to negro Slavery. There is just about as much truth or propriety in charging Abolitionism against any gentleman of Lowndes or Montgomery counties. The man who charges John Bell with being an Abolitionist, does it through a desire to lie upon his fellow man." This is as plain and emphatic as it is true, and we commend it to the consideration of the Breckinridge orators and editors generally. Now in regard to Mr. Lincoln, I have only to say, if he was the purest, wisest, and most ex- perienced of all, there is an insurmountable objcclioa to him, and that is that in all rcsp; cts 1 am a national man in every sense of the word, and I could under no circumstances vote for a man who is asectional candidate, no matter to what party he may belong. But candor eom'Kls nie to say that he is not more sectional than Breckinridge, and not half so dangerous us tlie party Mr. Breckinridge represents. Now, one or two subjects briefly touched, and I quit. 1 have been asked what I thought it was the duty of the South to do in the event of the election of Mr. Lincoln. I answer, nothing in the world, but submit as we have always done. I have no desire to keep secret from any man what I would do, for I would wear my heart upon my sleeve, and if every political opinion I entertain could be summed up in one word, I would have that word on my breast that every man might read it who felt an interest in knowing. His election would constitute no reason for a dissolution of the Union, nor would that of any other free white man. A native citizen of tlie United States, 35 years of age, the only qualificatioa required by the Constitution ; first he h:is the Senate fixed against him, the politicaf complexion of which cannot be changed within the next four years, and the Supreme Court is against him, so there is another source of protcc tion to the South. So that if Lincoln were elected and even prepared to offer violence and out- rage tothe South, 1 would not be prepared to dissolve the Union. If he were elected and should recommend violent and extreme measures to Congress, I should not think the time for dissolu- tion had arrived. His recommendation might be repudiated by both branches of Congress ; but suppose Congress adopted his recommendation. Would the time for a dissolution then have arrived ? I think not, because this sacred little book, the Constitution of the United States, pro- vides another remedy, and that is the Supreme Court. I would go to the Supreme Court, I would there proclaim that Congress had no power to interfere with Slavery, and demand that justice and right should be done me. But, if the Supreme Court refused me redress, then I would say the time has come for revolution, and let him take the lead who will, I will follow. [Great applause.] But I never will consent to plunge this country into all the horrors of civil war ; to involve your children and my children; to inflict such a calamity upon the nation ; to oppose brother to brother and father to son in deadly conflict, I never will until 1 have exha-usted every remedy provided by the Constitution. (Great applause.) I have been asked, also, "Suppose South Carolina thinks proper to go out of the Union : •what would you do then ?" I have heard some patriotic gentlemen say no Federal troops should ever cross this State while they are alive ; but if I were asked what I was going to do in such an event, the first inquiry I would make is, Who is coming at the head of the Federal troops? Who is going to take command of the troops ? Is it Lincoln ? No; they will not wait for his inauguration. Will it be Mr. Buchanan ? No ; he will stay in Washington and manage the finances, for which he seems particularly well qualified. [Laughter.] Now, I think if any army were to march here, it would be headed by Gen. Scott. [Applause.] And then, if he came along on his way to the South, it would depend on how many men he had with him what I would do. If he had enough to ac- complish his object, I would be satisfied to give him safe escort through the State. But if not, I would buckle on my knapsack and shoulder my musket and go along with him. \ f SPEECH OF THE HON. JOHN M. BOTTS. 23 [Applause.] Now, do not let us confound our personal sympathies with the higher obli- gations of public law and public duty. I do not mean I would literally go along with him ; he would not expect such a thing of me ; but I only mean to appeal to the obligii- tions of duty, and state what I think we ought all to do. If South Carolina declares herself out of the Union, what aspect does she present to the United States? Is she a State in the Union? If so, the laws must be enforced ia the Union. But if she is no longer a State in the Union, she assumes the position of a foreign enemy to the United States, and also to Virginia ; and am I to be asked to givo aid to the enemy of the States? or am I to be called a traitor for obeying the Constitu- tion of my State and of the Union ? She is an enemy to the States and to you. I owe no allegiance to South Carolina because she is a Slave State, and I would as soon march to South Carolina to enforce one law as I would to Massachussetts to enforce another, whether the Fugitive Slave law or any other, or to reduce either to submission if they were rash enough to assume the position of a foreign enemy to me and mine. I am not a slave to Slavery, and I will not make a fool of myself to please fools. [Applause.] But I apprehend there will be no need of forces passing through the State. Certainly there ia no power by which South Carolina or any other State can be restrained from going out of the Union, if she thinks proper to be guilty of so wild and rash an act, nor from committing any other act of violence or wrong upon the Constitution or laws of the country, unless the Federal Executive shall be disposed to exercise the authority entrusted to him by the Constitution, and the people who have deposited that Constitution in his hands for safe keeping; but if he has the courage and the jciV^ he will not lack the jjower to keep the Union together as it was when he took upon himself the re- sponsibility and the obligation to see that the laws were faithfully executed. As Gen. Jackson said in his proclamation : " The laws of the United States must be executed. I have no discretionary power on the subject. My duty is emphatically pronounced in the Coustitu- tioQ. Those who told you that you might peaceably prevent their execution deceived you : they could not have been deceived themselves; they knew that a forcible opposition could alone prevent the execution of the laws, and they knew that such opposition must be repelled." But I said I did not apprehend that there would be any necessity for sending troops through Viry ginia, although a force that would be absolutely irresistible could be sent if necessary. The Presi- dent may certainlj- exercise a sound discretion as to the best mode of executing the law : and if it can be done without blood.^hed, then that is the best way to do it. Then let him ask of Congress at an early day for the re-enactment of the bill of the 2nd of March, 1S32 : "For the colleitiun of duties on ihiporis." Let him then under that act establish his Custom Ilouse on board the Steamer Susquehanna, sta- tioned in the harbor of Charleston, then cut off all mail facilities and intercourse, allow no remit- tances to go in, and no cotton to go out, and then the people would begin to inquire into the reason for this precipitate and passionate action on the part of the politicians, they would find that Lin- coln's election was only the pretext and not the came of the disturbance of their peace : they ■would find that they had been misled: and that without cau.-e, they had been induced, by seductive appeals to their passions and prejudices, to cast off the most magnificent endowment thai a kind Provi- dence had ever bestowed on his unworthy creatures* and it would lead to a revolution and secession within the limits of South Carolina in less than thirty days. South Carolina is a very extreme State — Massachusetts is another. I do not think it just to take either as reflecting fairly the conservative sentiment of either section of tho country. There is no more fairness in looking on the extreme States of the North as fair exjponents of the public sentiment there, than that South Carolina is a fair exponent of the public sentiment of the South. These are the opinions I entertain upon the issues involved in the present canvass. I have expressed them fully and freely, but I hope I have left no handle by which, through misrepresentation, our adversaries will injure us. I have endeavored to present my views in a manner perfectly inoflensive to any candidate, and, I trust, to the feelings of all here present. If what I have said constitutes a submissionist, I am a submissionist ; but I submit to the Constitution and laws of my country, and he who does not is a traitor to both. I return you my thanks for your patientiattention, and hope I have done as much service for the Democratic party as the Dc^niocracy this morning exjiected of me. Gentlemen, I have concluded my argument, and again express my acknowledgments for the very flattering manner in which it has been received. At the close of Mr. Botts's remarks, there was one universal cheer, which rung tlirough the Hall, and being caught up by the outside crowd, was continued until it died away in the far distance of the suburbs. The reporter has never witnes.sed more enthusiasm exhibited in favor of a public speaker ; and it was rendered the more impressive in this instance, from tho fact of the vnry vindictive spirit recently manifested toward him by tho leading political organs in the State. Mi ,