THE STATUS OF THE INSURGENT STATES, UPON THE Cessation of Hostilities. THE EIGHTS OF THE DISLOYAL-THE DUTIES OF THE LOYAL STATES. A Speech, delivered "by GENERAL BENJAMIN F. BUTLER, BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE OF PENNSYLVANIA. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Wednesday, April 11, 1866. The members of the Senate and House met in the Hall of the House of Repre¬ sentatives at eight o’clock, P. M., pursuant to joint resolution inviting Major Gen¬ eral Benjamin F. Butler to address the Legislature. Hon. James R. Kelley, in introducing General Butler, said: Gentlemen of the Senate and House of Representatives , Ladies and Gentlemen: The name and fame of the distinguished gentleman by my side are too well known to this Legislature, and the people of this State, to require any formal notice or introduction at my hands. It is only necessary for me to present him to you, and ask you to welcome to the capital of Pennsylvania Major General Benjamin F. Butler. SPEECH OF GENERAL BUTLER. After the applause had subsided, General Butler spoke as follows: Mr. Speaker , gentlemen of the Senate and House of Representatives of the Legislature of Pennsylvania,'and citizens of the Keystone State: I return my most cordial thanks for the high honor and courtesy shown me by this reception. I must attribute it, and not in any terms of self-abnegation, to the loyal feeling you have to the country, and as a recognition of an endeavor on my part to aid in the struggle which has so lately almost happily terminated. We can congratulate ourselves, if not on the return of peace, yet on the cessation of all armed hostility to the Government of the Union. For four years we have been called upon to send our bravest and dearest to the field of battle, there to peril life in behalf of their country’s life and honor. That contest has terminated, and if the anticipations of all during the dark and bloody struggle had been realized, that, when war would cease peace indeed would come, and the authority of the Union, as upheld by true loyal men, should be established, then, indeed, we should feel that he blood of our sons had not been shed in vain. [Applause.] Therefore, it may be assumed that it is in the hearts of every one present, as it is in my own, to ask each other in words like as of old, “Watchman, what of the night ?” for each hour brings change, a new feature, a new thought in the political condition of the country. THE FIRST BLUNDER. It is not with anger, hut with sorrow; not with doubt, but in the reasonable exer¬ cise of judgment that I feel bound to say what I believe every true man wdll echo, however painful that echo may be, that what we thought we had gained by the struggle has not yet come to us; and to ask, if not, why not? On the surrender of the rebel forces, when one hundred and sixty-eight thousand rebel prisoners of war, in arms, were surrendered to the victorious armies of the United States, then num¬ bering a million men; when every vestige of armed resistance was blotted out, when their great leader, their representative man in the civil government of the Confederacy, was captured at the head of his fugitive guards, and when the nation shuddered at the most horrible assassination of its beloved and chosen President; at that hour, when we hoped that cruel deed might be avenged, and just retribu¬ tion, other than the execution of the poor, half innocent instruments of that crime, in comparison with the crime of the great leader, might be had—at that hour we saw before us a condition of things when as each man of you will agree with me, I doubt not, we had but to impress the true stamp of our loyalty upon the South and it would have received and retained that impress. Does any one doubt if at that time Congress had been called together, and if the co-ordinate branches of the Government had then agreed, as upon other extraordinary occasions, on a policy of reconstruction (if reconstruction was needful), or a policy to settle the troubles which now threaten the country quite as much, aye, and in the judgment of some good men, more than war—I say, can any one doubt, if Congress and the Presi¬ dent had at that time agreed (and they then did agree, if we may believe the public declarations of both) that that policy, Avhatever it might have been, would have been carried out and would have become the settled law of the land, to which eveiy man North and South would have rendered willing obedience ? Suppose, for example, that the President and Congress (they being called together as upon an extraordinary occasion, and the Constitution gives power to the President so to call them), had conferred wflth each other, and it had been enacted by the law-making power, and rendered certain by Executive concurrence, that the great representa¬ tive leader of rebellion, Jefferson Davis, who left the Senate of the United States for the purpose of taking the head of the civil government of the rebellion, should be tried for his crime, and, if found guilty, convicted and punished, as an example to all others in like cases offending hereafter; and if General Lee, who, on the 19th of April, 18G1, deserted his flag for the purpose of taking command of the armed forces of the enemies of the United States, should be tried and punished, as every soldier who deserts his flag to command the armies of his country’s enemies should be pun¬ ished, by every law, civil, military, human, and, I might almost say, divine; and if, too, it had been then proclaimed that every man who had left the army of the United States, and every man who had left the halls of Congress or the civil service of the United States to take part in treason, should leave the country for his coun¬ try’s good within the next sixty days, and leave his property to make good, in some degree, the losses he had occasioned; and that every other man who had served in the rebel army or in rebel legislatures who desired to leave the country, should have free passage to go and never return; and if it should have been further declared that all men who had taken an active part in the rebellion, and thereby forfeited their rights as citizens, should thereafter remain without any share of political power in the United States, at least as long as it requires a well disposed foreigner to get political rights; if each one of these measures had been adopted, does any one doubt that peace, quietness, loyalty and justice to all men would now have reigned in every State in the South? It' I am right, then may we not complain because we see that the best thing to be done was not done; but as I have only sketched before you substantially what the President of the United States, at that time, as I under¬ stood, both from his public speeches and from his private declarations, said what was the best thing to be done, we have a right, in all fairness of criticism of what has hap¬ pened, at least to regret lie had not done what our judgments now tell us was best he had done, and what his judgment at that time told him, and he himself told us was best to be done. ITS CONSEQUENCES. What since has happened? The whole South, which then stood ready to receive the imprint of our institutions, of our laws, and to establish equal justice and equal 3 rights if we only wished it, now, under the state of things which has since super¬ vened, has come up to do what? To claim their rights, their powers, and their places in the Congress of the United States again, to make laws for us, and that, too, in the spirit of hatred in which they so long fought us. Therefore the great question to-day which divides the country, and divides the President of the United States from the majority of those who supported him is this: Shall these men, heretofore in rebellion, without any guarantee that they will not the next day after we admit them again desert the seats in which we place them as they have done once before, be received back and allowed to make laws for us? And upon that question I will endeavor to give you some few of the reasons which lie uppermost in my mind, why this should not be done. Upon no other question is there any serious division between the President and the party which put him in power, and between them and the opposing party, if so small a fragment as is represented in Congress can be called a party. [Applause.] This is the division, and I think it is a broad one—so broad that no loyal man, and no man who fought the fight of the last four years can doubt where his place is now. Shall we receive these men back without guarantee, without surety, without repentance even, to places which they voluntarily deserted? [Cries of “That is the point,” “No,” “No.”] There are reasons why I think every loyal man would say “No.” The first, not in signifi¬ cance, and perhaps not in order, but the first we may discuss is this: What right have they to come back? It is said in the first place that the States of this Union could not secede from the Union; that we fought to prevent the States from seced¬ ing, that we have conquered, and therefore the States not being out of the Union, their delegates in Congress have their rights as the representatives of those States. There are two answers to be made to that; first, that no Representative in Congress represents a State—he represents a district, and no district as such, I believe, attempted to rebel, but that would be a technical answer, and not one to be favored, and as I may be told by an astute Senator, one that would hardly apply to the Sen¬ ators who represent States, but the broader and wider, more statesmanlike and just answer would seem to be that the question to be here decided is not whether the State as a State is in or out of the Union, but whether unorganized communities which were States, the whole people of which repudiated all their obligations as citizens of the United States, and who took upon themselves new obligations to a body which they erected, called the Confederate States, and who fought for four years to get rid of the power and authority of the United States, and who, at one time or another did get rid of that power and authority for a longer or a shorter time dur¬ ing those four years—sought to make alliances with foreign countries and to dis¬ member the Union in every form possible, and do every conceivable damage to the rest of the country—whether these as States have a right in the Union as a parf of the Government of the Union. The question is not whether their people have a right to the protection of the Union, and not whether their Territory is within the Union. I am one of those who repudiate entirely the idea which is now sent to us from the South, and which I was very sorry to hear echoed, on the 22d of February from the steps of the White House, that we, who do not think these fragments of States shivered from their places by their own treasonable acts, ought to come back at once without repentance to help govern us, are disunionists. We do not by any means agree upon any possible proposition that we are disunionists, because for one, I claim that not one foot of Territory of the United States was ever out of the Union. [Applause.] I claim, again, that no citizen of the United States on its soil has ever got out of the Union. I claim further that no citizen of the United States has ever rid himself of a single obligation to the United States. [Great applause.] I claim further that ho citizen has rid himself of one particle of the governing power of the United States, as exercised over him either to restrain him in wrong or aid him in right, or to make him do his duty both as a citizen of his State and as a citizen of the United States. [Long continued applause.] But I am told I am a disunionist because I choose not to recognize an organization which, by the people that made it, was made hostile to the United States, and which fought the United States for four years, as a part of the Government of the United States, and because I insist that organization was not during all that time a living and vital part of the Government of the United States. I ought not to be called a disunionist, because I only insist that a rebel government, composed of disloyal men, with their bayonets at my throat, are not a portion of those who are voting with me, and acting with me in the Gov¬ ernment of the United States. [Applause.] I am one of those unfortunate per¬ sons who are not gifted with the power to see why, if these rebels are now a governing power of the United States without any further act on their or our part 4 they were not equally a portion of the United States when they were carrying on the battle of Manassas, for instance. I do not see why, if this theory is correct, their representatives had not as much right to sit in Congress and vote against sup¬ plies to the army of General McClellan as your representatives had. Indeed if this theory he correct I do not see why, when a portion of the rebels came up to Gettys¬ burg, they were not to be considered as carrying out their right to help the Govern¬ ment of the United States, for were they not a portion of the Government of the United States at that time? If they were not then but are now, pray tell me when the change took place? When they laid down their arms? Could that bring them back? OPPOSITION TO THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY—NO DISUNIONISM. If this theory be sound, I cannot understand how the proposition of Mr. Yulee of Florida, in 1861, that the Southern senators and representatives should remain in their seats to'prevent the enactment of force bills and the like, can be regarded as dishonorable ; or why indeed the seceding senators and representatives are not entitled to their full pay and mileage for the terms for which they were elected. To adopt this theory, indeed, is to acknowledge that these senators and representatives were kept out of their seats by a superior force tortiously exercised, and that every act of the Government, from that time to this, save only the executive efforts to re-instate the late rebels in power, was revolutionary in its character and therefore void. I know of no better way to illustrate this great topic of discussion than by the simile of partnership. A number of partners join together in a partnership for the transaction of business. After a while two or three of them, being in the minority, choose to leave the partnership without the assent of the rest of the partners, pub¬ lish and proclaim its dissolution; repudiate its obligations; refuse to pay its debts; attempt to steal its property, bring suit to dissolve it and are beaten. Can they take the partnership property with them against the compact by which the partner¬ ship was formed? Clearly not. Can they bind the partnership? Clearly not. Can they destroy the partnership? They can as far as they are concerned. Can they get themselves out of the partnership? For all of the purposes of destroying their own rights in the partnership, they can. Can they get back into the partnership? No, not until the rest of the partners get ready, and upon such terms as they choose. [Great applause.] FEBRUARY TWENTY-SECOND. Let us follow this a little further. I would not deal on this occasion with this charge of disloyalty and disunion against the true and loyal men of the North, if it were a mere newspaper slander, or if it came from any quarter less respectable than that, the quarter from which it came on the 22d of February. I now here ask the people of Pennsylvania whether they think their honored representative—and per¬ haps I do no discredit to others to speak of him as their honored representative—for there is no man in Congress more honored by the loyal men of the nation than is he who represents Pennsylvania and who has been denounced as a traitor, although he has stood by and seen his property in flames because of his devotion to his country, whether they think him disloyal. [Applause.] We have been denounced as disunionists because we insist that States can get out of the Union so far as to destroy their rights as a part of the Government. Not that they have a right to lay down their obligations to the Union. It is charged that we admit to the right of secession. If States, after having re¬ pudiated all their obligations, stole all the property of the Union within their bor¬ ders, and fought as long as they could stand to destroy the Union, can come back into the Union whenever they please, and take part in the Government without anybody saying why or wherefore, I do not know why those that claim that right for them do not admit their power to go out of the Union whenever they please, and without anybody saying why or wherefore. If the right to come back at plea¬ sure is claimed on the one side, I pray somebody to ansiver me why it does not ap¬ ply equally well to the right to go out on the other. How did those States go out ? How did the members of Congress representing them go out ? Mark now, when I say “go out” I do not mean to say that they took one single foot of the territory of the United States out from under the jurisdiction of the United States, or made one hair white or black in the governmental relations of any man to the United States, or of the United States to any man. THE REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM. But what did they do ? Whenever any one of them chose, he rose in his place and said, “My State has gone out, and I am going out of Congress,” and took his 5 hat and went to the Sergeant-at-Arms and drew bis salary, some times in advance, and went home. Each did that at his own good pleasure, and I know of neither law nor constitutional obligation that prevented his so doing. But having once taken himself out of Congress, supposing his State did not agree to it and refused to endorse his act, will anybody say that that man could return to Congress and re¬ sume his seat before Congress declared that, he was again entitled to it ? No man will say that. Suppose now, that every one of his constituents, or a great majority of them, applaud his act, and say that he did rightly in thus leaving Congress, and fully sustain him in what he has done, I say that as all must agree the man, of himself, could not come back to Congress without a vote of Congress de¬ claring that he was entitled to his seat, can that constituency who have thus with¬ drawn their representative from the halls of Congress send another man to take his place until Congress shall say that they may do so ? Will any man pretend to say that Congress cannot properly inquire by what right that representative returns, and whom he represents, whether a loyal or disloyal constituency ? That seems to be the question at issue. Let me repeat it, because I think it covers the whole ground. Suppose any member of Congress takes his hat and says, “I resign my seat and am going home,” not forgetting to take the Southern road home byway of the office of the Sergeant-at-Arms and drawing his salary, all must agree that that man cannot come back to Congress until Congress shall readmit him. Suppose, then, that the constituency of that man, by an overwhelming majority, asks him to do as he has done ; desires that he should do so ; sustains him in doing it and keeps their repre¬ sentative away for four years, and then sends another man to take his place, can any one take the ground that Congress must not inquire by what right that repre¬ sentative comes back ? Has Congress no right to protect itself against men getting- up and leaving their seats, thereby destroying a quorum, and, as the case might be, revolutionizing the Government ? No one can have any doubt on this question. Does it make the case any the less .strong, because, for the past four years, the con¬ stituency of those members have tried to destroy the Government by fighting against it to the extent of the last man and the last dollar that they could raise ? It seems to me not. Therefore, this proposition cannot be argued upon any of the rights of or the loyalty of the representatives themselves. The delegate may be loyal, but the constituency is disloyal. Is the disloyalty of the constituency to be represented in the government of the nation, because their representative may happen to differ from them and be loyal to the Government ? To test this let us reverse the posi¬ tion. Suppose a truly loyal Southern constituency should, by mistake, elect a dis¬ loyal traitor to represent them ; shall he be allowed his seat ? Clearly not. The remedy for such mistake is to keep him out of Congress or expel him if he smug¬ gles himself in, because he does not represent the loyalty of his constituency. If, then, a disloyal constituency, by a like mistake, elect a loyal man—and they will only do it by mistake—shall the disloyalty of the (constituency be represented be¬ cause they have made a blunder and sent a loyal man ? No, he should be kept out because he misrepresents his constituency. The right of representation does not belong to the person of the representative, but to the district. If that is loyal it is entitled to representation. After Congress shall have decided the position of the State, if that is disloyal, the supposed loyalty—always questionable—of the man claiming a seat gives it no right to take part in the Government. The loyal man dying, or his term closing, the constituency would hasten to send one disloyal like themselves. This seems to me to dispose of the ad captandum statement sometimes relied on that Congress ought, whenever it finds a loyal man sent up from any district in the South, to admit him without inquiring whether his State is loyal and well-disposed to the Government or not. THE EFFECT OF THE SURRENDER. Is it not true rather that it is the first duty of Congress, in the case of the rebel¬ lious States, to inquire, “Is the constituency fit to be represented in the Govern¬ ment ?” and then, “Is the man a fit representative of the district ?” But there is another consideration bearing on this matter of right of these States to a share in the Government. It has been decided by the Supreme Court of the United States, as indeed it has been by every court in every civilized country, that the war in which we were engaged was a public, territorial civil war, in which every man upon the soil held by the enemy became, from the necessity of his posi¬ tion, a public enemy— every man; that is the decision of the Supreme Court, and if I have any of my old Democratic friends here, you remember how much we believe in the decisions of the Supreme Court. [Laughter.] Now, then, has anything 6 been done to alter the condition of these men from public enemies ? We captured in public war all these enemies, all their lands, all their negroes, all their property ; all became ours by the right of the conquerors ; and can you tell me why we did not capture in war all their rights, constitutional and otherwise—if they had any ? [Applause.] They surrendered everything under the terms of the surrender with General Grant and General Sherman—terms, too, sufficiently favorable for them, some peo¬ ple think. What were' the terms of that surrender, by which they all are bound ? The terms were that they might go home and live unmolested so long as they be¬ haved well. Was any right given them by that surrender, either political, govern¬ mental or otherwise ? By the surrender of their representatives in the field, every right that the South as a people had was surrendered to us. If there are any loyal men in the South, and I hope there are a few who have remained loyal during the whole time, as individuals they may have other and different rights, but they are not now distinctly asking Congress for admission. When the truly loyal men of the Southern States, or any of them, white or black—men who have never swerved in their loyalty to their country—shall ask it, I have no doubt that Congress will admit their representatives. For one, I shall never make any objection. [Ap¬ plause.] I believe that the great controversy now is, whether the truly loyal men of the South, who have always remained loyal, shall be represented in Congress, or those who have been disloyal, who agree that they have always been disloyal, and who now say that they would continue to be disloyal except that they surrendered to* brute force, and accept the situation. Therefore, are we disunionistsbecause we are unwilling that such men should be represented and make laws for us in the Union ? REORGANISATION SHOULD BE UPON THE BASIS OF EQUAL RIGHTS. There is another objection to their admission at present. I find that by their own act society in these rebellious States is disorganized, and has to be organized anew. In this the President does not disagree with me, nor with the majority of the loyal men of the country ; for he proclaims that they must be organized anew, and ap¬ points provisional governors over them, and gives authority and prescribes terms for reorganization. It seems to me that rebellious States ought to be organized upon the basis of republicanism and justice before they become a part of the Government. Ah, I am afraid that I hear some, who have not yet quite come up to the true standard of justice, say to himself the speaker is in favor of negro equality. I pray you, my doubting friend, if such there be, don’t misunderstand me. I am for no kind or class of sectional equality; I am for equal rights and justice to all men. [Applause.] And therefore I say—(and this I understand to be the impregnable basis of the Union party upon this question)—fix the standard of political equality wherever you please, make such a qualification for a political franchise as you please, and when any man comes up to the standard and has that qualification which you have established, then let him vote. [Applause.] I believe in the words of the lamented Lincoln, who expressed this idea better than I have ever seen it ex¬ pressed anywhere else, that “every man has the right to be the equal of every other man.” [Applause.] It is not quite correct to say that every man is lorn the equal of every other man, because there are social differences among men—.differences in wealth, differences in position, that make a practical inequality. Nor is it quite cor¬ rect to say that every man is the equal of every other man ; but it is exactly right, just, republican, and I had almost added divine, to say that every man has the right to be the equal of every other man, if he can. [Applause..] And upon that prin¬ ciple of democratic republicanism we take our stand, and sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish, upon that principle of justice, before high heaven, the Union party—I know no party but the Union men of the country—must stand if they ex¬ pect either success in this world or the smiles of the other. [Applause.] There would seem, therefore, to be a right somewhere in the Government’s right to have this principle recognized in the reorganization of society and political communities where they are disorganized. But, say some (and it is thought to be a.conclusive argument,) in Pennsylvania, in Illinois, and in other loyal States, a difference is made as to political rights, and therefore how can you insist upon an equal right of suffrage in the South ? To that I answer, when Pennsylvania or Illinois becomes rebellious and fights the Government for four years—loses all her political and gov¬ ernmental organizations—gets all her rights captured, and then comes and asks of me a new status in the country and to take a new share in the Government, then I will be ready to prescribe, as a condition precedent, equality and justice to Penn- 7 sylvania ; but until that time it is none of my business. [Applause.] I think such must be the answer to the suggestion, and I have never been able to see any reply to that answer. The people of the South ask us—having forfeited all their rights— having, as rebels, no right on earth, save one—to be hanged—[applause]—we cap¬ tured all their other rights—having no other right but that under any law, under any constitution, holding everything else from the clemency of the conqueror—re¬ ceiving everything else because we choose to give it to them—and thus only they get it—come and ask of us political rights and a share in the Government. May we not say, in the language of the old proverb, “that beggars should not be choosers,” and that they should take such rights as we offer them, because they have no share whatever in this Government, and are and must be but beggars at the door of this Government, and of its Congress, and of its Executive. WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN. I hear some one say, “You are very severe upon the South ; you are very harsh.” I pray you judge me. The worst thing I ever said of them I say to you here. I would like to have seen,, if I could, two representative men tried by the laws of the country they have outraged, and punished, as an example, if they were found guilty; but two out of the thousands that might be dealt with under the laws; and I desire to see every mischief-maker, in the olden time and in the present, who de¬ serted his flag or his seat in Congress to aid in overthrowing the Government, sent out of the country, with the loss of his wealth, as a small punishment for the great crimes which he has committed, at a cost to us of half a million of lives and four billions of treasure; and when I want everybody else who is not satisfied with the government of this country to leave the country and “go at once, and not stand on the order of his going,” and never come back, and that I do not desire that those who have tried to overthrow the Government shall take part in the Government, at least till after a reasonable probation, I trust I am not to be accused of being very blood thirsty. I say further, that I am willing that even such men shall go to their homes, and that those who have not sinned too much should enjoy their property much better than some men whose property happened to lie in the march of the rebel army to Gettysburg can enjoy theirs. That I am willing that every man who took part in this rebellion should be protected in person, property, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, except those who, in language that we all reverence, have “sinned away the day of grace.” While I say I am willing-that the great majority should be thus protected, I am not willing that they should come here and make laws for me. That is what they claim, and it is to that I object, and upon that dif¬ ference I stand and shall ever stand. [Applause.] But why am I unwilling that they should make laws for me ? I have fought to maintain the*right to say they shall not; I have given my son and my brother to death; I have impoverished my country to achieve this right to say they shall not. Every man here can say so. Every man here has the right to say so. You have given your sons; you, young man, have given your father ; you, fair woman, have give your husband and brothers, and perhaps one as dear as either ; you all have taxed yourselves to an extent never before experienced by a civilized people, and all for what ? All to vindicate the right of loyal men of the United States to make laws for the whole United States against those who rebelled against the United States, and that is all you fought for; and if you now yield, either through the Pre¬ sident or through Congress, the right you have thus maintained, your brothers and sons and husbands and fathers have been uselessly murdered, and your taxation is a burden, a shame and a degradation that you ought not longer to support. [Ap¬ plause.] If this right is lost, all is lost. We ask, and I put it to the fair judgment of every man, leaving out all party predilections, is it too much to ask, after all this sacrifice, simply that disloyal traitors shall no longer make laws to govern the loyal people of the United States, white, black or gray. [Applause.] THE EXPEDIENCY OF THE THING. Beside the right which I claim, that they shall not make laws, look a moment at the expediency. I judge these men at the South very much as I choose that they should judge me. I believe that they do pretty much what I should do if I stood in their place; and now I ask any man here—if you honestly, and thinking you were in the right, had rebelled against the Government of the United States—if you had given your sons and your brothers to fight against that Government—if you had spent your whole substance in fighting against that Government—if you had only yielded because you could not help it—because you were bound hand and fool, and could resist no longer—I ask again, would you vote, if anybody was so foolish as to 8 put a ballot in your hand for such purpose, to pay the debt -which the United States had incurred in whipping you ? Now, I am sorry to say that I have so much of “old Adam” in me that I would not. If I should say, as some of the men who live in the South now say, that “I do not like you any better because you have whipped us,” I should say, as they say, “I never agreed to pay your debt, and it is asking too much of poor human nature to ask me to vote to pay the debt that you incurred in whipping me.” [A voice—“We will make them pay it.”] [Applause.] How shall we make them pay it ? By giving them power enough in Congress to repudiate our own debt and force theirs upon us ? Therefore, because of the danger of repudiation of the public debt, I say I would not like to have them to come in and take part in the Government, because I hold that the national faith, beyond everything else, is dear, and we have pledged our faith to our own citizens and to foreigners that this debt, incurred in our extremity, should be paid, and though it takes the last chair in the house and the last cow in the barn, it shall be paid. [Ap¬ plause. ] But if you allow the Senators and Representatives from the Southern States to come into Congress, there is no man that doubts that they will vote for tlie repudia¬ tion of our debt. They all, so far as I know, agree upon that, or if our debt be not repudiated, they will vote that their own debt, incurred in the attempt to whip us, shall be assumed by us; and as I said, if I were they I would not vote to pay the debt incurred in whipping them; so you may be quite sure that I would not pay any portion of the debt that they incurred in trying to whip us. Of that you may be certain. So if that is saddled upon us it is virtual repudiation of the whole, both theirs and ours. If we admit these Senators and Representatives to Congress without requiring further guarantees than they have yet offered, there is not a man in the country, who has a dollar invested in any of the United States securities, but will soon find that his investment is not worth half the value expressed on its face; there is not a bank in the United States that is not in fact broken; there is not a savings bank that is not bankrupt; there is not a man who invested in United States securities that can reckon them -worth one dollar with any certainty. Therefore when they call us “radicals”—we who are trying to do what we can to preserve the Constitu¬ tion and Government from the hands of rebels—we who are trying to pay the pub¬ lic debt of the country—we who are trying to preserve and maintain the dignity and integrity of the Government—we should rather glory in the term, had it not been used in a term of reproach; yet in truth we are the great conservative party— the party preserving the rights of the Government—the power of the Government —the obligations of the Government—the debts of the Government from the des¬ truction of rebels and their associates. THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY. Noav then if we agree—and I am sorry that I have trespassed upon you patience so long in putting forward this proposition—that it is not well to have these repre¬ sentatives of the South in Congress without further guarantees, then let us see as to the means of keeping them out. The President of the United States—and when I speak of him I propose to do it, as I trust I have done, with all the respect due his high office, and with no feeling of personal unkindness—because I have known him for a good many years—I knew him when we both voted for Breckinridge—[applause]—I remember him as long- ago as when certain people voted that he should not speak where I am now speak¬ ing—[applause]—and I have never received anything at his hands but personal kindness and consideration—and while I know that I am following the honest dic¬ tates of my judgment and experience, I am bound to accord to him the integrity of purpose, therefore in all that I may say I want to be expressly understood as dealing with the acts of a public officer, following out the best dictates of his honest judgment—the President of the United States insists, as his policy, that these rebellious States, having now repudiated the ordinance of secession (and I am sure if that ordinance was void, I don’t see how the repudiation of it could make any difference), and having passed the constitutional amendment abolishing slavery (neither can I see how that can make any difference in their governmental relations with the rest of the country, though I observe that many of them passed it under protest), having done these two things, and having repudiated, as States, the con¬ federate debt, that thereupon they are at once entitled to admission, by their repre¬ sentatives, into equal power, in the House of Representatives of the United States, and by their Senators, into the Senate of the United States, and that each Senator 9 and each Representative has the same rights in this Government as your Senators and Representatives from Pennsylvania have. This I understand to be the proposition of the President, and I mean to state it respectfully, as I would state the well matured theory of any high officer. What further does he say? He says that whoever does not believe and act upon that belief—that this theory or policy of his is the true one, he is a disunionist and a traitor. Am I not right? And that Congress, or the Union majority of Congress, who do not believe, and will not act upon this theory, are traitors, disuniouists, seeking to disturb the peace of the country by factious opposition to the true inter¬ ests of the country, and have in a revolutionary manner established a central directory by delegating their constitutional powers to a committee of fifteen, whom a high officer of the Government has dubbed as an “obstruction committee.” If any gentleman thinks that I have not stated the President’s position with fairness, I beg to be corrected. WHAT MAY HAPPEN. Now, if the President of the United States so believes, and I am bound to suppose that he does, what is clearly his duty following out the logic of his position? His duty, it seems to me, would be in some constitutional and proper method, to rid the country of such a Congress with its factious central directory of traitors and dis- unionists who are disturbing the peace of the country. Would not any one suppose that that was his duty? Assuming now that he believes exactly wliat he says—and I must believe that he does or he would not say it—that the majority in Congress who are opposing the policy of at once admitting these Southern representatives, are a factious, central directory (for I use his words), opposing and hindering the establishment of peace in the country, and are traitors (and some he called by name as traitors), what is his duty? What would you do, Mr. Speaker, if you were in the Executive chair and had had to deal such a body of men as lie describes them to be? I know very well, though I may be a little extreme, what I would do if I found a body of traitors and disunionists attempting to disturb the country. I shonld be active in season and out of season in devising ways and means to get rid of them. How can the President get rid of them? If he believes what he says he believes, he ought to disperse them. Any man who believes that Congress is of the complexion and dangerous character that the President insisted that it was in his 22d of February speech—and that speech was well considered, because he made it the test of his support in Connecticut; [Applause.] I say any man so believing ought to rid the country of such a body of traitors and disunionists. Therefore, I say that if this well considered doctrine of the President, thoroughly determined upon as stated, is the true doctrine, then Congress should be sent away from the capitol to prevent further mischief, or at least this factious portion of it deprived of power, for there ought to be no hundred and fifty men—traitors, disunionists, a central directory disturbing the peace of the country—sitting anywhere. That is very clear. How can this be done ? There has been but one way suggested. Suppose the President calls together a Congress, after this Congress adjourns (provided it ever does adjourn), and twenty-two Senators come from the eleven seceded States, combine with these fifteen Senators (including two from Pennsylvania) who favor their admission, and when those thirty-seven men get together, thus making a majority in the Senate, the President recognizes that majority as the Senate; and ought he not thus to recognize them if they all have equal rights? He says every Senator from a seceded State has as much right to his seat as your Senators from Pennsylvania, and the Senators from Pennsylvania seem to agree with him, because they are willing to act with him. If the President is right, by that plan, there is a majority of the Senate, and the other thirty odd Senators who have been elected from the North, become thus what he describes them to be, a mere faction. Then suppose some sixty Representatives come up from the South, and they join with some few Representatives from Pennsylvania—because I believe that Pennsylvania is not so unanimously one way in the House as she is in the Senate [applause], and joining with other northern democrats who believe the South are right—who hon¬ estly believe they are right (because I propose to consider every man acting in high governmental function as honest), and by that means, with the fifty representatives who favor their admission (be the same more or less), they make a majority in the lower House of Congress, which the President also recognizes as the rightful House, when this is done have we not got a President and a Senate and a Congress with¬ out counting a single loyal man? [applause and laughter]—I beg pardon for a slip of the tongue—without counting a single man who votes as I think a loyal man ought to vote ? [Applause.] Would this be a Congress according to all the forms of 10 tlie Constitution? Would not the President, in organizing such a Congress, he hut following out the exact logic of his well considered, oft repeated and reiterated dec¬ larations? And when that time comes, I am going to leave you to reflect upon what, if any, may he the constitutional remedy of loyal men. I do not mean to he an alarmist, hut I do not think I am wrong in suggesting what seems to me a peace¬ able, constitutional means of getting the Southern Senators and Representatives back without any violation of the Constitution if the President’s theory of the rights of these people is correct and against the protest of every truly loyal man. Let me illustrate this a moment, because it is a little abstruse, and perhaps I have not made myself quite clear. Agreeing that all Senators and Representatives elected North and South have equal rights (which is President’s doctrine), suppose upon the day of the first meeting of Congress, by some accident, as the non-arrival of a train, only a majority of Congress convene and organize, and the next day, when the rest of tlie members come, a majority only of those who met the day before, taking advantage of the acci¬ dent that prevented the arrival of the rest of the members, will not receive them, and the Senate having acted in the same way, both Houses say, “we are organ¬ ized—we are the judges of the qualifications of our members: we will not let you in: you did not get here in season,” or for any other reason because a factious, traitorous, central directory would do almost anything, good or bad, without a rea¬ son. Now, then, under those circumstances, if that minority so left out should meet with a few members from the sitting Houses, joining them to make a majority somewhere else, would it not be the duty of the President, under such circum¬ stances, to recognize the majority Houses so having met, approve their acts, send his messages to them, and would not their acts become laws, and w'ould not the other factious minorities be simply two debating societies, more or less valuable, sitting when they happened to meet? Would not that be the exact parallel which I put? Well, now, it is the misfortune of our Southern friends that the train which should have brought them to Washington has been switched off for four years; it is a pretty long time that they have been kept out of Congress, but now they claim that they have arrived ; they are before Congress with full rights ; the President recog¬ nizes their rights, but the majority of Congress refuses to recognize them. Why, then, should not those who vote now in Congress for their recognition go into ses¬ sion with them, and then the President can say to this new body of late traitors and their sympathizers, I address my messages to you; I recognise your authority; I execute your laws, and I do not recognize the other; when its members choose to come in and sit with you, then they can have their share of the government, other¬ wise they are simply a factious, traitorous minority. Each House it is true is the judge of the qualifications of its own members, but the only question would be, “ Which is the Congress?” and of that question the President is the sole judge, so far as executive recognition goes. A LOYAL CITIZENS DUTY. That, you say, may not be done to-day. I agree with you; I don’t think that there is quite courage enough to do that to-day ; there are not quite men enough in the lower house, added to all that will come from the South, so long as a negro is counted but three-fifths of a man, and is not allowed to have any voice in whom he sends. But suppose—and this point I wish to put to every thinking man in all fairness and honesty of thought—suppose in the next Congress your present loyal, true men of the majority are not sustained, and there come to it from the non-seceding States sixty or seventy men who vote or are ready to vote and act upon the proposition that every one of those Southern members is as much entitled to his seat as himself, and with that sixty or seventy, joined with those who may come up from the seceded States, a new House and Senate, by the admission of twenty.two members, are formed, leaving out every loyal man and rendering him powerless by his vote to determine whether these late traitors shall come back, under such a state of facts, not an impossible one—no, nor an improbable one—I ask tw T o questions: first, what is your seven-thirty bond worth ? Another question I ask, if you desire any remedy, what remedy can you have ? Therefore, I hold it to be the bounden duty of every man to himself, to the faith pledged to the debt of his country, that we all desire to pay—nay, more, to the country itself—to see to> it that the loyal men of the House of Representatives and of the Senate in Congress assembled are fully sustained by the people, so that no one of them be missing when the roll of the next Congress shall be called. The question, “Who is President?” will then be of very little consequence, because, as we have seen very lately, if a law is right, with such majorities as we now" have, it can be passed, the veto of the President to the con- 11 trary notwithstanding. [Great applause.] We need not fear to take the issue if Congress remains true. The issue has been made in the weakest of our sister States—Connecticut—and with the whole power of the Administration, not a thou¬ sand Republican votes were swerved from their true allegiance to principle. [Ap¬ plause.] THE VETOES. Let us spend a moment in examining the other differences between the President and Congress. A difference has been shown in two vetoes—one of the Freedmen’s Bureau bill. I think that there were defects in the bill; one of which (not the one upon which it was vetoed, however,) would have been conclusive in my mind against it. It gave the President power to appoint civilians as assistants in the Freedmen’s Bureau, and in any number that he chose, in any State in the Union, and I saw nothing in it to prevent him from making each former master, on every plantation, an officer in the Freedmen’s Bureau, to take care of his own slaves, and thus the old system of slavery would be revived. If that bill had been presented to me I am afraid, if I had not agreed beforehand to sign it, I might vetoed it as the President did. But upon that bill a fair difference of opinion existed, and the Union majority of Congress, standing up to the question justly, said while many of them were in favor of the bill, “We are not quite able to overcome the scruples raised-in our minds by the veto of the President.” I do not think that had he stopped there that any man—any Republican—would have had a right to have shown any division with the President of the United States, however much he might have been provoked to do it by the praisings arid pettings of that functionary by the opposite party. But then camethe 22d of February speech, which, again, I say is put forward, upon reflection, as a policy, and upon that the Republican majority in Congress and the President cannot possibly stand together—one or the other must yield. Then came up the civil rights bill. This bill simply enacts that a negro, under the laws of the United States, shall have the right to sue and to be sued, to take hold and to transmit property, to make contracts, to sell and to buy as he chooses, as other men may do. Now, is there any man who will say that this is not just and right ? We do not now touch the vexed question of voting, but contend that the same civil rights should pertain to the negro that we give to every other man, whether foreign or native. Can there be any objection? These are the principles of the bill. Were they vetoed ? Not quite. What was vetoed ? The machinery by which these rights were to be preserved. The bill provided that the courts of the United States should take certain extraordinary measures to give the negro pro¬ tection in his rights against the unfriendly legislation of the States. Where did the framers of the bill get that machinery ? They examined the statute books and found a law of Congress, passed some years ago, under the light of the best talent that ever was in Congress—passed by the Congress in which Clay and the other great Southern luminaries in legislation took part—a very cunningly and well de¬ vised system of legislation to protect the rights of the master in the slave against unfriendly State legislation in the North. They put into the civil rights bill almost in so many words the provisions of the fugitive slave law, which was framed to protect the master in his right in the negro against all unfriendly legislation in the North. Now, while some good Republicans might well quarrel with the constitu¬ tionality of such provisions, yet it would seem that the Southern States were commit¬ ted to them, for if these provisions of the fugitive slave law were constitutional to preserve the rights of the master to his slave, against unfriendly legislation, it would seem that they were equally constitutional to preserve the rights of slaves against the master from unfriendly legislation. Therefore it is that you will find, upon compari¬ son, that the machinery of the bill, by which the civil rights of the negro are to be pro¬ tected, is almost word for word the same as the machinery by which, in 1850, the master undertook to protect his rights to the negro against unfriendly legislation. It was supposed that the whole Southern country was pledged to that, and that the President would agree to that machinery, as, in his place in Congress, he had three times voted that same machinery constitutional to protect the master in his rights to the negro. [Applause.] Yet that same machinery, in the civil rights bill, he vetoed as unconstitutional. It would seem, therefore, as if the President has objec¬ tions to acting with the truly loyal party of the country in framing legislation to protect the country against the acts of Southern traitors. If I am mistaken in this, and I sincerely hope it will appear I am; if lie-, by his acts, shall show that he stands where he stood one year ago—on the first day of May—when he declared the very principles and measures which I have asserted here to-night for the restoration of 12 the Union; when he insisted that treason was a crime and that it should be pun¬ ished, and that traitors should be made odious, no man will more heartily welcome him back into the ranks of those who elected him to power than I Will; but until that time I must ask him to explain how and why it is that we are at so great a variance, we standing where he stood a year ago, and he standing so nearly where those whom he then thought should bff punished as traitors now stand. You will remember, my friends, that he declared that treason was a crime and ought to be punished. Has it been punished ? He said that traitors should be odious. He has taken no step towards making them odious to my knowledge, ex¬ cept in insisting that they shall have seats in Congress, and pardoning them for that purpose. Perhaps, with his opinion of Congress, he considers that odium enough, t Applause. ] But otherwise, I insist that he has carried out none of the pledges that he made to delegations from every State in the Union a little less than a year ago. When he does so, he shall find no more ardent adherent than myself. Now, let us stand, not for men, but for principles—for equality and right and jus¬ tice ; stand by those who fought our battles; stand by those who stood by us. But why need I say this to the Legislature and State of Pennsylvania—to the Union majority of that Legislature ? I feel no unkindness toward any who differ from me, but I commend the Union majority of that Legislature and the Union party of the State for standing by him who stood by you, for I recognize in } r our candidate for Governor one of the best soldiers of the war, and one of the foremost and truest and most valuable citizens of your Commonwealth, of whom I can say from personal knowledge, (not paying a compliment where none is needed,) that no man will find in him, when elected, even a shadow of turning from the principles to which he shall declare himself committed. The issue between parties and under the same leaders is the same that it was in the war ; the struggle is not yet over. Their first appeal was made at the ballot- box ; it failed in I860. The next appeal was made on the battle-field aided by the ^ election of 1864; that failed in 1865. In 1866 and 1868 the appeal is again, and for the last time, if we are true, to be made to the ballot-box. Let true men stand shoulder to shoulder then, as we have in the past, and once for all and forever shall the doctrines of secession, disunion, injustice, rebellion and treason be settled. [Great applause.] Mr. RUDDIMAN moved that the thanks of the Heuse be tendered to Major General Butler for his able and eloquent exposition of the principles of the Union party. On the motion of Mr. Ruddiman, The yeas and nays were required by Mr. BARRINGTON and Mr. DAYIS, and were as follows, viz : Yeas —Messrs. Adaire, Adlum, Allen, Armstrong, Baker, Bemus, Brown, Came¬ ron (Susquehanna,) Danks, Davis, DeHaven, Denues, Freeborn, Ghegan, Glass, Grinnell, Herron, Hoffman, Hood, Humphrey, Irwin, Kerns, Kinney, Lee, M’Afee, M’Creary, M’Elroy, M’Kee, M’Kinley, M’Pherrin, Mann, Marks, Mechling, Meily, Negley, Osterliout, Pennypacker, Pillow, Quay, Ross, Rotlirock, Ruddiman, Seiler, Shaffer, Sharpies, Slienk, Shirk, Shuman, Slack, Smith, Stehman, Sterner, Stam- baugh, Sturtevant, Subers, Thomas, Tyson, Waddell, Wallace, Watt, Welsh, Whann, Wingard, Woodward and Kelley, Speaker —65. Nays —Messrs. Barr, Barrington, Boyle, Calvin, Cameron (York,) Collins, Braig, Crosland, Donnelty, Earley, Eldred, Grady, Harner, Headman, Houck, Jacoby, Josephs, Kline, Koon, Kurtz, Lawrence, Long, Markley, Meyers, Missimer, Nel¬ son, Pershing, Quigley, Rhoads, Robinson, Rose, Satterthwait, Seybert, Tharp and Weiser—85. So the question was determined in the affirmative. The House then adjourned.