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IL SECOND EDITION LONDON SMITH, ELDEE, & CO., 15 WATEELOO PLACE 1899 [All rights reserved] CONTENTS THE SECOND VOLUME CHAPTEE XI 1871-1872 Proposal to enter Parliament for Coventry on Sir Henry Bulwer's Elevation to the Peerage — Dinner at Edward Levy's — Henry James's Quotation — Episodes of the Ses sion — Visits to Nocton and Somerley — My Last Shooting- Party — Tom Price's Appetite — The Prince of Wales's Illness — Sir "William Bovill and the Forged Letter — Fare well Dinner to Lord Northbrook — Lord Dufferin's Ap pointment as Canadian Viceroy — Mrs. Norton — Disraeli and Mr. Brand — A Historic Ghess-Board — Sir John Rose and his Wife — Hooker and Ayrton — The ' Collier Scandal ' — Advantages of a Cabinet of Private Secretaries — My Ap pointment as Commissioner of Inland Revenue — Regret at leaving Mr. Gladstone — His Appreciation — Tribute of the ' Times ' — Proposed History of the 1868 Government — Mr. Gladstone's Advice CHAPTEE XII Me. Gladstone 21 V] EECOLLECTIONS CHAPTER XIII 1872-1875 PAGE Chesterfield Street in 1872 : Historical Associations — Watts's Studio : the Cosmopolitan Club — The Board of Inland Revenue : Herriea and Stephenson — Visit to Paris : Traces of the Siege — Visit to Studley in January 1873 — Dicky Doyle — Deaths of Bishop Wilberforce and Lord Westbury — Royal Commission on Judicial Establishments — First Visit to Hawarden — Mr. Gladstone and Tree-feUing — Sir Prederick Abel's Experiment — Mr. Gladstone on the Extravagance of the Indian Council — His Defeat on the Irish Education Bill— The Election of 1874 — Retrospect of the Government of 1868-1874 — Fire at the Pantechni con — Froude and Kingsley — Holidays at Datchet — Lord Granville on Landscape Gardening — Death of Lady Caro line Barrington — Residence at Wimbledon and Fairmile Common .......... 44 CHAPTER XIV 1875-1879 Mr. Gladstone's Motive in Retiring from the Leadership — Lord Granville on the House of Lords — Visit to Tintagel — Dinner with the Archbishop of Canterbury^Hawker of Morwenstow — Sir George Trevelyan's ' Life of Macaulay ' — Mr. Gladstone on Croker in the ' Quarterly ' — Lord Lyttelton's Death — Mr. Gladstone's Speech at Black heath on the Bulgarian Atrocities — His Literary Conver sations — Mr. Gladstone's Hat — Verger the Phrenologist — Mr. Gladstone's Use of Unparliamentary Language — His Letter to Mr. Herries — My Appointment as Deputy- Chairman of the Inland Eevenue Board — Visit to Hawar den in 1878 — Mr. Gladstone's Estimates of Forster and Lowe — Lord Lawrence and Lord Lytton — Anecdote of Sir Drummond Wolff — Mr. John Murray on Successful CONTENTS OF THE SECOND VOLUME YU 7'AKK Authors — Stamp Reform: My Victory over Welby — Letter from Mr. Lingen — Marriage of the Duke of Con- naught — Visit to Studley 70 CHAPTEE XV 1880 Announcement of the Dissolution — Mr. Gladstone's Second Midlothian Campaign — Herbert Gladstone's Candidature for Middlesex — Letters from Mr. Gladstone — Adam's Prophecies of Victory — Mr. Bright's Tribute to Mr. Glad stone — Lord Beaoonsfield's Comment on the Tory Debacle — Mr. Gladstone sent for to Windsor — The New Beer Duty — Mr. Gladstone's Enthusiasm for Finance : his Wonderful Memory — Mr. Watney's Testimony — Appoint ment of my Son Horace as Private Secretary to Mr. W. E. Forster — His Experiences in Dublin — The Arrest of Mr. Parnell : Elaborate Precautions — Mr. Forster and his Eevolver — His Dislike of Police Protection — Anecdote of Judge Barry — Narrow Escape of Mr. Forster at West- land Bow in March 1882— Father Healy's Wit— An Indignant Archbishop ....... 95 CHAPTER XVI 1880-1881 Correspondence with the Eipons — Letter from Lord Sher brooke — Mr. Gladstone on the Beer Duty Bill and the Board of Inland Eevenue — All-night Sitting in the House — Companionship of the Bath : Mr. Gladstone's Letter — Trip to the Eiviera with Sir John Eose — A Parisian Din ner — Nice and Monte Carlo — Sir John Eose's Britannic Mood — lU-health and Besignation of Herries — Appointed Chairman of Inland Eevenue Board — Letter from Sir Ealph Lingen — Eetirement of Alfred Montgomery — His VUl EECOLLECTIONS P.4GE Career and Personal Charm and Wit — ' Not one of the Public ' — Eebuke to a Private Secretary— Trip to Corsica in the ' Pandora' — Visit to the Pietri Family — Ajaccio — Expeditions in Sardinia — Eeturn to Walmer . . . 124 CHAPTEE XVII 1882-1883 Site and History of Wanborough — Changes in the Govern ment — Eesignation of Forster — Lord Frederick Caven dish's Appointment — News of the Phoenix Park Murders — Funeral at Chatsworth — Mr. Gladstone at the Guildhall — Arrest of Mr. Parnell — Sir Stafford Northcote and Mr. Gladstone — Visit to Hayes — Lord Eandolph Churchill on the Inland Eevenue Board — Mr. Gladstone's Defence — Harry Keppel's Eeminiscenees of Lord Saltoun — Origin of Sailors' Blue Collars — Invitation to join the Cruise in the ' Pembroke Castle ' with Mr. Gladstone — Start from Barrow — Miss Laura Tennant — In Scottish Waters — Arrival of Sir William Harcourt and Sir Andrew Clark — The Laureate's Beading — Question of his Peerage — Visit to Kirkwall — Mr. Gladstone's Speech — Across the North Sea in a Fog — Talks with Mr. Gladstone — Landing at Christiansand — Copenhagen — Dinner at the Palace — Visit of the Eoyalties — The Princess of Wales and Tenny son — Eeturn Home — Miss Tennant's Charm — Her Visit to Wanborough 147 CHAPTEE XVIII 1884 Mr. Gladstone on Free Trade and Protection — Anecdotes of Lord Lytton — General Gordon's Mission to the Soudan — Meeting at the War Office — Gordon's Demand for Zebehr — Lord Acton's Library — Panizzi's Last Days — Conver- CONTENTS OF THE SECOND VOLUME ix sations with Mr. Morley and Lord Acton — Mr. Gladstone's Portrait at Somerset House — Funeral of the Duke of Albany — Lord Lyons and George Sheffield — Conversations with Lord Granville — Cabinets and Gossip- Earthquake in London — Lord Granville at Wanborough — Mr. Glad stone on Seceders — Letters from Sir Erskine May and Sir John Lambert — Anecdote of Bishop Percy and Mr. Justice Maule— Mr. Gladstone on Lord Eandolph Churchill — Liberals improved as Speakers by Seoeesion — Mr. Glad stone's Height — Dynamite Explosions in London — Mr. Browning's Story of Euskin — Mr. Gladstone's View of Froude's ' Carlyle ' — Tenniel on the ' Punch ' Cartoons — Charles Clifford's EecoUections of Eogers and the GreviUes — Hallam Tennyson's Wedding — A Thursday Breakfast with Mr. Gladstone — The Lords and the Franchise — Death of Lady Halifax — Welby's Suggested Inscription for Mr. Gladstone's Bust — Miss Tennant and her Sister visit Wanborough — Lord Northbrook's Mission to Egypt — His Quixotic Loyalty — Mr. Gladstone and Abraham Hayward — Death of Lord Ampthill 176 CHAPTEE XIX 1884-1885 Dinner at Brooks's — Mr. Gladstone on Lord Lytton — His Views on the ChUtern Hundreds and on Mr. Parnell — Sir William Harcourt on Disraeli's Eeform Bill — Visits to Netherby and the Glen — Mr. ChUders as Chancellor of the Exchequer — Sir Charles Trevelyan's Dispute with Mr. James Wilson — -Introduction of the Franchise Bill — Con flict between the two Houses — Death of Mr. Fawcett — Labourers' Views of the Franchise — Lord Dufferin starts for India — Negotiations with Walter Northcote — ^Seoret Meeting between Sir Stafford Northcote and Mr. Glad stone — Letter from Mr. Leonard Courtney — Death of X EECOLLECTIONS Mr. Henley — His Views on Asylums — Conversation with Mr. Charles Villiers — His Views on Social Morality, Money-making, Protection — Huskisson's Eemark on Peel — Croker's ' Memoirs ' — Guizot's View of Croker — The Duke of Wellington's Policy — Mme. Jane Hading in the 'Maitre de Forges' and 'Frou-Frou' — Anecdote of Charles Mathews — Letter from Lord Aberdare — Walter Northcote's Eeport — News from the Soudan — Explosion in the House of Commons 295 CHAPTER XX 1885 Sir Charles Brownlow on the Afghan Business and Lord Lytton — Lord Granville on the Situation — News of the Fall of Khartoum — Colin Keppel's Hereditary Pluck — Lord Eosebery and Mr. Shaw-Lefevre join the Cabinet — Death of General Earle — Mr. Gladstone's Depression — Small Government Majority — Mr. Gladstone on Old Testament Characters — On Cromwell and Buonaparte — Mr. Glad stone's Bet about Lord Overstone's Probate — Mr. Childers' Budget — General Gordon's Estimate of Lord Granville, Lord Hartington, and Sir Charles Dilke — Budget Difficul ties — Negotiations with the Great Brewers — Marriage of Miss Laura Tennant — Defeat of the Government on the Second Beading of the Budget Bill — Letter from Sir Stafford Northcote on the Inland Eevenue Eeport — Inter view with Sir Michael Hicks-Beach — Sir Peter Lumsden — Letter from Mr. Gladstone on the Inland Eevenue Eeport — • His Tribute to the Board — Mr. Gladstone's Versatility — His Knowledge of Music — Eeminiscenees of Jenny Lind — Cardinal Manning on Mr. Gladstone's Eetirement — Com mission on Trade Depression — Letters from Lord Iddes- leigh and Lord St. Cyres — Visit to Copt Hall — Election Talk at the Cosmopolitan — Dinner at Mr. Armitstead's — CONTENTS OF THE SECOND VOLUME xi PAGE Election Eeturns — Dinner at Brooks's — Henry James's Stories of Lord Eandolph — Conversation with Charles Villiers — His EecoUections of Bygone Celebrities. . . 231 CHAPTEE XXI JANUAEY-JUNE, 1886 Mr. Gladstone's mauvaise dizaine de jours — Defeat of the Government — Mr. Gladstone's Summons to Windsor — Miss Mary Gladstone's Wedding — Sir William Harcourt Chancellor of the Exchequer — Letter from Sir Michael Hicks-Beach — The New Cabinet — Contretemps about Lord Granville — Eiots of the Unemployed — Financial Conversation with Mr. Chamberlain — First Interview with Sir William Harcourt — Deaths of Lord CardweU and Napier Sturt — Lady Georgiana Grey — The ' Cottage Budget ' — Cabinet Troubles — Mr. Gladstone's Home Eule Speech — Mr. Bright and Mr. Gladstone — Illness and Death of Mrs. Alfred Lyttelton — Letter from Sir Erskine May — Conversation with Sir Henry James on the Irish Question — Mr. Gladstone's Indomitable Spirit . . . 257 CHAPTER XXII JUNE-JULY, 1886 Mr. Gladstone's Sanguine Temper — Scene in the House^ Speeches by Mr. Goschen, Mr. Parnell, Mr. Cowen, and Sir Michael Hicks-Beach — Mr. Gladstone's Eeply — The Division : Delight of the Unionists — Mr. Gladstone at Coombe Wood : his Opinion of the Inland Eevenue and Customs Board — Mr. Gladstone's Desire to help Lord Salisbury — Eesignation of Mr. Adam Young: Appoint ment of Lord St. Cyres as Deputy Chairman — Letters from Lord Iddesleigh, Mr. Chamberlain, and Mr. Glad- XU EECOLLECTIONS stone — Farewell Dinner at Downing Street — Quotation from Sidney Herbert — Lord Herschell's Visit to Wan borough: his Anecdotes — Lord Eandolph Churchill appointed Leader and Chancellor of the Exchequer . . 279 CHAPTER XXIII JULY-DECEMBEE, 1886 Lord Eandolph and the Old Officials — Their Dismay and Eeconciliation — Interviews in the Board Boom and at Connaught Place — The ' Fourth Party Sofa '^-Lord Ean dolph and the Decimals — His Assiduity and Concentra tion — Propositions for the Budget — Economy his Euling Idea — His Visits to Somerset House and the Custom House — His Sudden Eesignation — His Personal Eolations with his Opponents and Mr. Gladstone — His Attacks on Mr. Gladstone's Transvaal Policy and subsequent Eetrac- tation — His Sense of Humour and Gifts as a Phrase-coiner — Mr. Gladstone's Letter to his Mother — Mr. Gladstone at Wanborough : Writes his Farewell Address on leaving Office — Deputation from Guildford — Visit to the Italian Lakes — Death of George Barrington — Lord Granville's Anecdotes of Charles Greville — Mr. Ealston at the Holborn Eestaurant — L'Envoi 293 INDEX 317 ILEUSTEATIONS to THE SECOND VOLUME The Eight Honourable W. E. Gladstone, M.P. Frontispiece Waiting for the Verdict to face page 12 Alfred Montgomery „ 140 The Honourable Mrs. Alfred Lyttelton . „ 174 From a draining by ihe Marchioness of Granly. EECOLLECTIONS CHAPTEE XI 1871-1872 Proposal to enter Parliament for Coventry on Sir Henry Bulwer's Elevation to the Peerage — Dinner at Edward Levy's — Henry James's Quotation — Episodes of the Session — Visits to Nocton and Somerley— My Last Shooting-Party — Tom Price's Appetite — The Prince of Wales's Illness — Sir William Bovill and the Forged Letter — Farewell Dinner to Lord Northbrook — Lord Dufferin's Appointment as Canadian Viceroy — Mrs. Norton — Disraeli and Mr. Brand — A Historic Chess-Board — Sir John Eose and his Wife — Hooker and Ayrton — The ' Collier Scandal ' — Advantages of a Cabinet of Private Secretaries — My Appoint ment as Commissioner of Inland Eevenue — Eegret at Leaving Mr. Gladstone — His Appreciation — Tribute of the ' Times ' — Pro posed History of the 1868 Government— Mr. Gladstone's Advice. In 1871 Sir Henry Bulwer, the younger brother of Lord Lytton, was raised to the Peerage as Lord Dalling, and consequently vacated his seat in the House of Commons. I was talking to Mr. Gladstone at that time as to who would follow Greorge Grlyn as Whip when he succeeded to his father's title. Shortly VOL. II. B c EECOLLECTIONS 1871- afterwards, when I had returned to Downing Street, George came and proposed to me, from Mr. Gladstone, that I should go into Parliament for Tamworth, which Sir Henry Bulwer would vacate, and succeed him as Whip. It did not take me a moment to see and say how the res angusta domi would make such an idea impossible ; but it took many moments and many days to put out of my head a proposal which, had it been practical, would have given me and my wife the greatest pleasure — for Parliament then repre sented the height of my ambition. On May 6 I dined at an interesting literary dinner at Edward Levy's, who was the editor of the ' Daily Telegraph.' Among the guests were two men whom I was very glad to see — Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton and Wilkie Collins. Henry James, who had not been very long in Parliament, was also there. On the previous Wednesday he had made an excellent speech on the question of Eemale Suffrage, in which he had told Mr. Gladstone, who I suppose he thought was coquetting with the subject, that fame had no present and popularity no future. Henry Caloraft was there, who 1872 LOWE'S MATCH TAX 3 did not know who Henry James was, and in spite of my kicks under the table, found fault with the speech, saying that the speaker had cribbed a quotation from Southey and pretended it was his own. This was more than Henry James could bear, and he told us, to Henry Calcraft's surprise, that he had not attempted to pass the quotation as his own, but had stated it was Southey's. He was very good-natured, however, about it, and we all parted the best of friends. It had not been a happy session. Abolition of Purchase in the Army, good in itself, had been carried by the very high-handed proceeding of a Eoyal Warrant. Mr. Lowe's Budget, which had great merits, had to be withdrawn. Nothing could be more astute than the means adopted to ensure the defeat of his match tax. All the girls employed in the business were summarily dismissed from their employment, and were, by the manufacturers, put into vans, which formed a procession on the Embankment. People were always ready, without inquiry into facts, to take the sentimental view of the question, and the tax was abandoned ; indeed, it might be said that the B 2 EECOLLECTIONS 1871- Budget was withdrawn, and with it Mr. Bruce's admirable Licensing Bill, which succeeding generations have had bitter cause to regret. We were interested and amused by the pro gress of the Tichborne trial, the Franco-German war was perpetually before us, and the cowardly horrors of the Commune were in full blast. M. Thiers came over here and had an inter view with Lord Granville, who after a time was struck by the absolute silence with which he received his remarks ; but he found that, over come with the fatigues of his journey, the old diplomatist was wrapped in a deep slumber, from which he was only awakened by a not altogether unintentional fall of the fire-irons. It was at Nocton, in the early seventies, where for the last time I took part in a great battue. After dinner the head of game shot by each gun was brought into the dining-room. I hung my head as the numbers were read out, and determined never to shoot again. My case was not unlike what happened to Mr. Frank Sneyd, who was not very successfully pheasant- shooting, when he heard the head keeper shouting out to his various subordinates : ' No hens to be 1872 TOM PEICE shot in these spinneys. You need not tell Mr. Sneyd.' That, I beheve, was his last day's shooting ; and for reasons equally obvious I gave up the noble sport. At Somerley we used constantly to meet Tom Price, a great friend of the Barrington family, a fine rider, and very greedy. One day, eating a good dinner, he said : ' This is my idea of heaven.' ' Yes,' said a neighbour ; ' such a dinner as this, without money and without price ! ' He always reminded me of the greedy man who, coming downstairs in the morning before breakfast, said, 'Food has not passed my lips since last night, and to-morrow will be the third day.' But he had many good qualities. It was in December 1871 that the Prince of Wales was seized with a severe attack of typhoid fever, and his death was expected from day to day. Mr. Gladstone was summoned to London, and I came up from Somerley, where I was staying, to meet him in the dull, dark days of a London winter. We anxiously waited for news, every moment expecting the Prince's death. He, however, happily recovered, and 6 EECOLLEOTCONS 1871— early in 1872 there was a great ceremony of thanksgiving in St. Paul's Cathedral, where, as Gentleman Usher of the Privy Chamber, I had to receive the Speaker of the House of Com mons at the door and take him to his seat. I then stood by him and Mr. Gladstone, just in front of the royal pew. The celebrated Tichborne case was proceed ing in January 1872, when Sir William Bovill, Chief Justice of Common Pleas, in whose court it was being tried, wrote to me as follows : Sessions House, Westminster : January 15, 1872. ' Dear Sir, — The enclosed letter has every indication of being genuine, but before taking any notice of it I shall be glad to know from you by my messenger whether it is a genuine letter and bears your actual signature. ' Yours faithfully, 'Wm. Bovill.' Algernon West, Esq., Secretary to the Eight Hon. W. E. Gladstone. 10 Downing Street : January 13, 1872. ' Sir, — I this morning received directions from Mr. Gladstone, who is at present out of 1872 A FOEGED LETTEE 7 town, to communicate with you in reference to the protracted trial over which you preside. Mr. Gladstone says : ' " In common with several of my colleagues, with whom I spoke on the subject when last in town, I have regarded with painful feelings the course of proceeding in the (Tichborne) case. The administration of justice is a matter of great and common concern, and the process of obtaining justice ought to be cheap, easy, and effectual. Here the latter is so much the reverse, that not only may a public scandal be caused at home, but we cannot fail to become a bye- word to all civilised nations." ' Mr. Gladstone adds that he is aware you are not in any sense responsible for a state of things which is a blot upon our civil jurispru dence, but he thinks that an early and public expression of your and perhaps his opinion, from the high position you occupy, would tend to remedy a state of things which threatens to result in a virtual denial of justice ; and that the resumption of the trial would be a not unfitting opportunity for this expression of opinion. 8 EECOLLECTIONS 1871— ' I am to add that Mr. Gladstone would himself have written were he in town, as he desires this letter to be considered official. ' I have the honour to remain. Sir, ' Your very obedient servant, 'Algebnon West.' The Lord Chief Justice Bovill. I went down to Westminster Sessions House, and found that on the receipt of this very obvious forgery Sir WiUiam had sum moned all the judges within reach, to consult on this- unprecedented interference with the judicial bench. One of the learned judges, however, wiser than his fellows, suggested that it might possibly be better to inquire if the letter was really authentic before considering the grave constitutional question. Of course I said it was a forgery ; but I was never able to discover its author, or how he succeeded in obtaining the Treasury official note-paper on which the letter was written. It was of Sir WiUiam that Serjeant BaUantine is reported to have said that ' with a little more experience BoviU would be the worst judge on the bench.' 1872 DINNEE TO NOETHBROOK 9 In March General Ashburnham, a great friend of ours, whom we constantly met at Frognal, died. I was anxious to get something at the sale of his furniture as a memento, and I chose an armchair which I pointed out to Lord Granville, who said it was unfortunate, as he particularly wanted it ; so I innocently gave way, and in the evening the chair arrived at our house, with a note from Lord Granville saying it was to be Horace's, as a recollection of his old friend 'T. A.' In March 1872 I got up a great farewell dinner to Northbrook on his departure to India as Governor- General. It was held at the Buck ingham Palace Hotel, and was an extraordinary success, Dufierin proposing Northbrook's health in language of exquisite felicity. In April Lady Caroline Barrington was in charge of the Prince and Princess of Wales's children at Chiswick, and our children, Con stance and Bill, went to stay there with them. We spent some evenings in that historical house, and saw the room in which Charles James Fox died. 10 EECOLLECTIONS 1871— About this time Dufferin offered me, through my wife, the clerkship to the Council of the Duchy of Lancaster, which, after some considera tion, I declined, as I felt that it would be too much of a backwater, and that my prospects of advancement would not be improved by accept ing it. Dufferin wrote : ' It is very vexatious to think that the one bit of patronage that I have ever had at my disposal, instead of going to a dear friend and one so eminently qualified to hold it, should fall into the possession of a stranger to me.' Just after this, Dufferin went to Canada as Governor- General, to his great delight ; and Mr. Gladstone became provisionally Chancellor of the Duchy. It was in May that, dining at the Dufferins before he started, we met for the last time the beautiful Mrs. Norton ; but she was not alone in her beauty, for others of the Sheridan family were there (Lady Hermione and her lovely daughters) to enter into competition with her, with all the glorious advantages of youth. On Mr. Denison's retirement from the 1872 ME. BEAND 11 Speakership in 1872, Mr. Brand was elected. When Mr. Disraeli was acquainted with the choice of the Government, he is reported to have said : ' I dare say he is a very good man, but I don't happen ever to have seen him.' The choice was soon justified, and Mr. Brand filled his high office with judgment and dignity. I once asked him if he had ever known or heard of money passing in our time for the vote of. a member. He said : ' No, never. The nearest approach to it I have ever known was our find ing a suit of clothes for an M.P. who stated that without them he would not be able to attend the House at a critical division.' On Saturday, June 15, a hot day, the Cabinet was summoned at 11 o'clock to await the deci sion of the Alabama Court from Geneva. After they had been waiting in vain for some hours. Lord Granville put his head into my room and said : ' We shall inevitably quarrel if we are kept much longer waiting with nothing to do. Can you get me a chess-board ? ' I went downstairs and found my daughter Constance had one, which I produced, and on which Mr. 12 EECOLLECTIONS 1871— Forster and Lord Granville played for hours on the terrace, the rest looking on. This episode, depicted by the clever pencil of the late Mr. Fairfield in the sketch reproduced opposite, is narrated in Forster's biography, and I am still the happy possessor of the historical chess-board. The Cabinet sat till dinner time, but the news never came till Sunday. It was during the process of the Alabama difficulties that I made the acquaintance of Sir John Eose. He had had an interesting and varied career, having begun life as a local schoolmaster in Canada, and had fought in the rebellion of 1837 as a volunteer, after which, having been called to the Bar in 1842, and practising at Montreal, he became the leading authority in Commercial Law. Later on he was made Solicitor-General and Minister of Public Works, and in 1864 was appointed commissioner for the negotiation of the Oregon claims. In 1869 he was made special commissioner in connection with the Alabama claim, and assisted in the settlement happily effected by the Washington treaty of 1870. While the latter negotiations were going on • ii ¦!il;Vrt':.r. ""l_~liT# 1^ ^>'^iaL.ikijt_t ' '.I ¦fr WAITING FOR THE VERDICT. 1. Mr. Goschen. 3. Mr. Cardwell, 3. Jin. H. A. Bruce. 4. Duke oe Arsyll. 5. Marquiss oe Kipon. 6. Marquess oe Hartixgtox. 7. VisooUHT Halifax. 8. Earl op Kimberley. 9. Mr. GfLADSTONB. 10. Eabl Granville. 11. Mb. W. B. Porstkb. 12. Lord Hatherley, 13. Mr. Stansfeld. 1872 SIE JOHN AND LADY EOSE 13 we were in constant confidential communica tion, and the acquaintance then formed with Sir John and Lady Eose ripened into a friend ship only ending with their deaths, which, curiously enough, were both very sudden. I was out driving with her at Loseley only a few days before she died ; and on the very day, some years later, that I received a letter from him, begging me to join him in Scotland, came the news of his death, which occurred whilst stalking in the Duke of Portland's forest at Langwell. There was no pain to him in his death ; that was reserved to us, for a better or kinder friend never lived. Dr. Quain told us afterwards that he had a weak heart, and should not have gone out stalking. He was buried in the cemetery at Guildford, and laid by the side of his wife, many of his friends following him to the grave with aching hearts. As for Lady Eose, I have in a long Ufe met many women I thought clever, but never one so clever as she was, or with such a genius for society. One evening after dinner we went into their drawing-room at Loseley, the ceiling of which was decorated with a cockatrice on each p^el. 14 RECOLLECTIONS 1871— ' I don't know,' said Welby, ' what a cockatrice is.' 'I little thought,' I said, 'that a gourmet like you would avow your ignorance of the existence of a "poulet au riz." ' In this year there was published a scurrilous pamphlet entitled ' What does she do with it ? ' by ' Solomon Temple,' reflecting on the Queen and the Civil List. It was supposed to have been written anonymously by someone in a high position, and I had a great deal of work in con nection with answering all the charges made ; but the answer was complete. I was also concerned in some very compli cated negotiations between Mr. Hooker, the Director of Kew Gardens, and Mr. Ayrton, the First Commissioner of Works, who had quar relled. Ayrton had an evil tongue, but I confess that I thought him the more reasonable man of the two. He was complimentary to me in the House of Commons when the subject was dis cussed ; and on Mr. Bernal Osborne sneering at my attempt to make peace, Mr. Gladstone spoke most eulogistically of the part I had taken in the matter. Before the session was over arose what was 1872 THE COLLIEE SCANDAL 15 unfairly called the Collier scandal, for which Mr. Gladstone could only justly be blamed as a consenting party. In a previous session a Bill had been passed by which it was enacted that no one should be appointed a Lord of Appeal without having first served as a Judge in the Common Pleas. It was proposed now that Sir Eobert Collier should be passed straight through the Common Pleas, thus complying with the letter of the law only. I foresaw that Mr. Gladstone would suffer heavily if this were done ; and though it was no particular business of mine, I implored George Glyn to interpose. He only said : ' I suppose you know better than Mr. Gladstone.' ' Well, at any rate,' I answered, ' I am what Sydney Smith used to call a "good foolometer." ' And I went up and argued the case with Mr. Glad stone, who was most kind and attentive, but did not see it with my eyes, and the most was made of what was not a scandal but a grave error. It had not even the elements of a job in it, for Sir Eobert Collier was a great loss to the 16 EECOLLECTIONS 1871— Government as a law adviser, and the seat he held was lost to the Liberal party. Then followed another mistake, which was naturally taken advantage of by the Opposition : Mr. Harvey, a Cambridge man, was appointed to the Eectory of Ewelme. The statutes laid down that the Eector must be a member of the Oxford Convocation, but he had been educated at Cambridge, and was only subsequently made a member of the Oxford Convocation to satisfy the statute. These two events, small in themselves, did enormous damage to the Government. Bobsy Meade used humorously to say that if everything were submitted to a cabinet of private secretaries, most of the blunders committed by Government would be avoided. Of course he said it jokingly, but in the joke lay some truth on the principle that ' onlookers see rpost of the game.' One evening in August we had been dining, as we often did, in the garden of Downing Street, and were standing on the terrace when Mr. Gladstone told me that he proposed to appoint me in poor Sir Alexander Duff-Gordon's place 1872 ME. GLADSTONE AS MASTEE 17 to a commissionership of Inland Eevenue. As public speakers say, it was ' with very mingled feelings ' that I received the announcement. It was a very sad moment to feel that my private secretaryship was drawing to a close. Next to being in the Cabinet, to be private secretary to a great leader like Mr. Gladstone is, in my opinion, the most desirable of offices — provided the private secretary enjoys, as I am happy to say I did, the absolute confidence of his master. No one ever before had one so kind, so trust ing, and so generous — I will not say considerate in the ordinary acceptation of the term, but thoroughly appreciative : he worked hard him self and always expected that those under him should do so too. After nearly four years of delightful and con fidential intercourse with the greatest man of this or probably any other age, the end was indeed inexpressibly sad. During that time he had always let me talk to him freely on every subject. He had argued matters with me often as an equal, with great earnestness, yet, with all his know ledge and experience, modestly, and ever ready to make allowances for the many shortcomings VOL. II. c 18 EECOLLECTIONS 1871- with which I must often have tried him. And yet throughout that period I never knew him lose his temper, and cannot recollect a hard thing he ever spoke of his bitterest opponents, or even of friends who deserted and vilified the man upon whom they had fawned, though he had covered them with honours and titles. I lay the flattering unction to my soul that he was a little sorry too, for he wrote to Her Majesty as follows : ' Mr. West obtains a well-deserved reward for much arduous labour admirably performed ; but the office he takes is a working one and absolutely requires the surrender of the private secretary ship, to Mr. Gladstone's great concern and not small embarrassment.' The ' Times ' also commented on my appoint ment in the following appreciative terms : ' None who do not know can form an adequate idea of the responsibility necessarily thrown upon the private secretary of a Cabinet Minister, or the anxiety and labour the office entaUs; the salary would not repay a second-class clerk in a great mercantUe establishment, and until a proper provision is made for this highest kind of 1872 LETTEE EEOM ME. GLADSTONE 19 confidential service, such appointments as that now conferred upon Mr. Algernon West must be regarded as only a tardy repayment for good and hard work insufficiently rewarded.' Towards the end of the session I asked Mr. Gladstone to look through a history I had written of Sir Charles Wood's India,n Adminis tration ; and sought his opinion as to whether I should make an attempt to write something on the same lines about the 1868 Government. He promised to read it and tell me what he thought, a promise which he fulfilled in the following letter : Hawarden Castle, Chester : August 21, 1872. ' My dear West, — I have read your book on Lord Halifax's Indian Administration with great interest, and I am indebted to it not only for much information, but for a far fuller and greater view of his merits as an Indian Minister. ' Your question to me, I think, was whether I thought (after reading it) that you were com petent to write a narrative of the principal pro ceedings of the present Government — or of its c 2 20 EECOLLECTIONS 1872 Irish legislation. Correct me if I do not report your inquiry accurately. ' I should answer without doubt in the affirma tive. But I think there is one danger against which you would require to be more on your guard than was necessary in dealing with the unimpassioned question of India. You would have to expel from your mind for the time the spirit of sympathy and friendship and to place everything as far as possible in an abundance of daylight. The danger I refer to besets you not as A. B. W., but as a contemporary writer. These narratives close on the heels of the event are very difficult, though not impossible. If you succeeded in your second task as well as in the first, it would do you much honour. ' Yours sincerely, ' W. E. Glabstokb.' Mb. Glabstonb 21 CHAPTEE XII ME. GLADSTONE And so the time was come when I should have to leave the great Prime Minister who was ' not in the roll with common men ' — who had won success almost from his cradle ; at three years old, as he often told me, he had babbled out a few lisping words standing on his father's dining-table, on the occasion of Mr. Canning's successful election for Liverpool in 1812. At Eton, the friend of Lord Canning, Milnes Gaskell, Hope Scott, Gerald Wellesley, and Arthur Hallam, he had foreshadowed his future career ; at Oxford, in competition with a larger body of distinguished men, he had taken the highest honours ; when only twenty-three years of age he had entered Parliament on the Duke of Newcastle's recommendation, and after a hard 22 EECOLLECTIONS Mr. fight had reconquered for the Tory party the borough of Newark. He soon attracted more attention than usually falls to the lot of the young members of the House of Commons, and Mrs. Gladstone told me of a letter written by William IV. to Lord Althorp and published in his Life, in which the King had noticed and admired an early speech of her husband's. In Peel's great Government of 1841 Mr. Gladstone, who had been a Junior Lord of the Treasury in 1834-35, became Vice-President of the Board of Trade, and was informed by the Prime Minister that he would learn everything connected with the business of his department from the President, from whom, Mr. Gladstone has frequently told me, he learnt absolutely nothing; but from his own application and labour he learnt much, and amongst other things the blessings likely to accrue to the country by the abolition of protective duties on corn. At the Board of Trade some Chinese de spatches came before him, in which the Prime Minister of that country argued that foreign ships should not be admitted to Chinese waters ; but, he added, ' some of these ships conveyed Gladstone ME. GLADSTONE'S EAELY CAEEEE 23 corn, and it would be madness to exclude what would cheapen the food of the people from their ports.' And these words of Oriental wisdom had influenced Mr. Gladstone's mind in the direction of Free Trade. In 1843 he first entered the Cabinet as President of the Board of Trade, a position which he resigned in 1845 on the Maynooth question, Disraeli declaring that his career was over. With advancing years, we learn, too late perhaps, the folly of all, particularly political, prophecies. In the September of 1845 Mr. Gladstone — who had vacated his seat for Newark, disagreeing on the question of Free Trade with the personage then called the Patron of the Borough, the Duke of Newcastle — re-entered the Cabinet as Secre tary of State for the Colonies without a seat in Parliament. In 1847 he had become member for the University of Oxford. He was Chancellor of the Exchequer in the Governments of Lord Aberdeen and Lord Pal merston, at whose death he had led the House of Commons; he had shown himself to be 24 EECOLLECTIONS Me. an accomplished orator : the mellowness and modulation of his voice, tinged with the slight Lancashire burr which never deserted him, had already delighted and fascinated the House of Commons. Trevelyan, in his ' Life of Lord Macaulay,' has told us how in the early morning, when Mr. Disraeli, having replied at the close of the debate on the Budget of 1852, sat down, ' one greater than he arose — Mr. Gladstone bounded on the floor amidst a storm of cheers such as the walls of Parliament had never heard. His oration in a single day doubled his influence in Parliament and his popularity in the country ' — all this was known to the veriest tyro in political knowledge ; but notwithstanding his great reputation, all his successes, and all his triumphs, he was still in 1868 looked upon by those who belonged to what were then called ' the governing families ' of the country, with the notable exception of Lord Granville, and perhaps Lord EusseU, as an ' out sider,' so to speak. I recollect one of them saying to me: 'He is a wonderful man, no doubt ; but so is a Japanese conjurer.' A great Yorkshire squire described him in Gladstone ME. GLADSTONE'S OPPOKENTS 25 hunting slang as ' not having been bred in their kennel.' ' If Mr. Gladstone,' wrote a Whig magnate, ' thinks he can lead the House of Commons with the force of the millions without the goodwill of the ten thousand, he will find his mistake.' Mr. Bagehot, a keen political observer, had said it was impossible to calculate what his future course would be. His great Budget had been described by an old Whig as ' Oxford on the surface, and Liverpool below.' The Tories feared and hated him; the Church, with a few notable exceptions, opposed him ; Oxford University had thrust him out ; the old Whig party had not forgotten his oppo sition in past years ; the Nonconformists disliked his Church views. Even in his financial triumph of 1860 they of his own household were opposed to him. The readers of Greville's ' Memoirs ' will recollect how ' Clarendon shook his head, and pronounced against the French Treaty, and the " Times " thundered against it.' Lord Pal merston and Sir George Cornewall Lewis were always secretly, when not openly, opposed to him on matters of finance. Charles Greville, 26 EECOLLECTIONS Me. himself no mean representative of the govern ing families, described him in 1860 as having ' a fervent imagination which furnishes facts and arguments in support of them : he is an audacious innovator because he has an insatiable desire for popularity, and in his notions of government he is a far more sincere Eepublican than Bright, for his ungratified personal vanity makes him wish to subvert the institutions and the classes that stand in the way of his am bition.' And yet so overwhelming was his personality and his force that he was in 1868, by the voice of the people, chosen to be Prime Minister by an enormous majority of the votes of his country men. As John Morley tells us. Dr. Johnson said of the elder Pitt, ' he was a minister given by the people to the King,' and rarely as, we are told, it happens, ' Parliamentary life admitted the autocratic supremacy of his original intellect.' If this be true, Mr. Gladstone was only reaching his zenith at nearly sixty years of age ; and at the time of his becoming the most powerful Prime Minister of our day, I had had the rare good fortune to be associated with him, and had Gladstone MINISTEE AND SECEETAEY 27 the opportunity, at any rate, of seeing behind the veil of his wonderful and subtle character. From that hour there remained, and will ever remain with me, an intense love and admira tion of his enormous powers, of his marvellous memory, of his splendid oratory, of his personal kindness, and of his touching modesty. It was soon after my first acquaintance with Mr. Gladstone that he told me how impossible it was for a Minister and his secretary adequately to perform their respective duties unless there was established between them such an absolute confidence as in a happy domestic life should exist between a man and his wife. I hope I have never betrayed that confidence which he so fully bestowed on me, and which extended to the last days of his existence. After all the long years of close intimacy, private and official, I have never felt capable of adequately depicting a hundredth part of his complex character, so great and so vast, that to understand it is necessary to divide it. -^Through every phase, in every action and every thought was abundantly apparent a deep sense of religion ; indeed, it was to his life what 28 EECOLLECTIONS Mr. the Nile is to Egypt, what sunshine is to the world. Languor was not in his heart. Weakness was not in his word. Weariness not on his brow. He was possessed of an imperious vitality, and what Burke called a ' quadrumanous activity' which penetrated into every office of the State ; and through it all stood out his old conservatism in the truest sense of the word : his devotion to old traditions and constitutional forms ; his loyalty to the Crown ; while with this devotion was joined a courtesy most reverential to the Queen, and an affection for the royal family which was most touching. The world perhaps does not know that it was largely owing to his negotia tions as leader of the Liberal party that the Eoyal Grants were so satisfactorily arranged in the House of Commons in 1889. William Gurdon, who had been my colleague and knew him well, said that he approached every new question, first from a Tory point of view, and after some consideration would come round to seeing it from a Liberal point of view^ Even in small details his conservatism was Gladstone HIS KNOWLEDGE OF MEN 29 apparent. George Lefevre once told me that when as First Commissioner of Works he put before Mr. Gladstone his plan for the widening of Parliament Street, the latter deprecated very strongly the destruction of King Street, simply because it was an ancient landmark of London, and should be preserved for that reason. It has been said and repeated a hundred times that Lord Beaoonsfield understood men, but that Mr. Gladstone understood mankind ; as Monckton Milnes said of the first : ' Knew not mankind, but keenly knew all men ; ' and of the latter : ' Knew naught of men, but knew and loved mankind.' I have my own doubts as to the truth of this generally accepted proposition, for from numberless conversations with him, I was able to see how shrewd was his criticism and appre ciation of public men. He always, I admit, took the highest view that was possible, and believed in them till he was persuaded to the contrary. Talking on this subject long after his de parture from the Liberal party, Mr. Chamber lain said Mr. Gladstone was no judge of men ; 30 RECOLLECTIONS Mb. but then he generously added : ' When a man is on a high eminence he looks down and sees men moving below him, but from his great height he does not distinguish between those that are tall and those of lesser stature.' As an instance of his Parliamentary intuition and judgment of character I may notice that when the game of obstruction began to be practised in the House of Commons by some of the Tory left wing, a friend walking home with Mr. Gladstone asked him if he did not think it very serious. ' Not at present,' he said ; ' for these obstruc tionists are all au fond gentlemen, and will not press it to extremity; but their example may be followed in the future by less scrupulous men, and then it may become dangerous.' It was an intuition that made him select Sir Stafford Northcote, then an unknown man, as his private secretary, and he was the first to introduce him into Parliament as member for Dudley, a seat then controlled by Lord Ward, a Peelite. He was also the first to appreciate the budding quaUties of Lord Eandolph ChurchiU, Gladstone HIS POWEES OF APPEECIATION 31 while five of the most successful and prominent politicians ^ of the present day were all intro duced into high office by Mr. Gladstone. Lords Hampden and Peel, as Speakers, testify to his keen discernment of their qualifications ; while among permanent officials I may surely point to Sir Eobert Herbert, Sir Arthur God- ley, and Mr. Theodore Walrond, who were all brought into the Civil Service by him, and to Lord Lingen and Lord Welby, who were both placed in the highest positions by his selection. To say that Mr. Disraeli — who at once fasci nated and delighted the Court and the populace with his idea of an Empress of India ; who at the time of the Treaty of Berlin tickled the imagination of the people with visions of Orien tal imperialism ; who became the most popular Minister of the century, and almost its idol — was ignorant of mankind, seems to me to be almost grotesque. Mr. Gladstone has been accused of being intolerant of those who differed from him, and of brushing aside with an energy approaching ^ Lord Eosebery, Mr. Asquith, Sir Edward Grey, Mr. Chamber lain, and Mr. John Morley. 32 RECOLLECTIONS Mr. to rudeness objections made to his own plans. This may have been quite true, when his mind was once definitely made up ; but I have never known a man who, while any matter was being discussed, was so patient in hearing and sifting objections to the bottom until he thought the truth was reached. And then he had a splendid boldness in dashing difficulties aside, thus fol lowing Lord Bacon's advice that in council it is good to see dangers — in execution not to see them. He acted on that famous maxim that a statesman should doubt to the last, and then act as if he had never doubted. In the hour of action he was like a great commander who, having matured plans after careful considera tion, sees before him his enemy's citadel which he means to take, and becomes regardless and even scornful of timid counsels and timid ad visers who point out to him ambuscades and obstacles which he means to, and does, over come. The comparison holds good in another as pect. Like many political personages, he has been accused of being heartless. Would not that criticism equally hold good in the case of Gladstone HIS ENTHUSIASM 33 any great and successful general who in the fury of the battle sees his comrades shot down by his side, but has no time to waste in idle lamentations ; indeed, he envies them the glorious opportunity of laying down their lives in the service of their country ? My own belief is that Mr. Gladstone early realised the fact that 'life has nobler uses than regret.' He believed that in every step he took throughout his career he had acted to the best of his abilities, and that there was no time to waste on idle retrospections. His aim and work lay before him ; and, like Colonel Hay's hero, He saw his duty a straight, sure thing. And went for it there and then. He was One who never turned his back, but marched breast forward; Never doubted clouds would break ; Never dreamed, though right were worsted, wrong would triumph ; Held we fall to rise, are baffled to fight better, sleep to wake. The intense enthusiasm with which he entered into the subject and the object of the moment was apt to dim, if not obliterate, the little loves and affections which crowd the life VOL. II. D 34 EECOLLECTIONS Mr. of smaller men. The execution of his great work was the one thing in his eyes, and the instruments and tools he used were dearer to him than anything else ; and the men associated with him at the moment were always greater than the men who had passed away. He became absorbed in the task, whatever it might be, which he had set himself to do ; he was not one of those who, having put their hand to the plough, knew what it was to turn back. Mr. Lowe said to a friend of mine : ' Glad stone possesses no ideas — his ideas possess him ' He would strongly condemn what he thought wrong, but he never imputed a bad motive to anyone, and his masterful temper was singu larly combined with a proud modesty, which led him to shrink from any honour conferred upon himself ; for here was the greatest Prime Minister of his day, who had created Dukes and Marquises, Earls and Viscounts and Barons galore, who had showered Garters and Eibands and Stars, who had bestowed Archbishoprics and Bishoprics, Viceroyalties, and Secretary ships of State — a commoner, without any title and without any rank. Gladstone A ' GREAT COMMONER ' 35 We all know how, among :the decorated statesmen who formed the dazizling assembly in Vienna, Talleyrand remarked of Lord Castle reagh, who attended the conference without any decoration : ' II est bien distingue.' And so it was with Mr. Gladstone, he was ' bien distingue;' as Macaulay said of Hampden: ' He was one of those great commoners whose plain prefix of " Mr." has to our ears a more majestic sound than the proudest of the feudal titles.' Genius has been described in a thousand ways ; but his genius it was to raise everything he touched to a higher level, and to leave the impress of his intellect on every person and every subject with whom he came in contact. The late Lord Dalhousie, for whom Mr. Gladstone entertained a great affection, said to me that he had done infinite harm to him and his contemporaries by establishing a level so high as to make it impossible of attainment ; yet I am sure he was the last man who would have wished ' to pare the rnountain ' to the plain.' ¦ Though Mr. Gladstone Was' consumed with D 2 36 RECOLLECTIONS Me. a devouring passion for liberty throughout the world — from the moment when in opening the doors of the dungeons to the Neapolitan pri soners he struck the first note of Italian inde pendence, to the last moment of his life when he vainly raised his voice in behalf of the oppressed and murdered Armenians- — foreign politics could rarely distract his attention from the more engrossing subjects of domestic and more especially financial importance ; and so far did this distaste permeate his character that he was often lacking in sufficient appreciation of the heroic deeds of our sailors and soldiers, which fascinate at all times and seasons the belligerent imaginations of the most peaceful of Englishmen. Mr. Gladstone's liberality, little heard of, while never exceeding the bounds of his income, was very great, and was curiously accompanied by his love of small economies — his determina tion to have the proper discount taken off the price of his second-hand books, his horror of a wasted half-sheet of note-paper, which almost equalled his detestation of a wasted minute ; for his arrangement of every hour of the day, and Gladstone HIS HUMOUR 37 for the occupation of that hour, was extra ordinary. There was never in his busy life an idle dawdle by the fire after luncheon, or a doze over a novel before dinner. Sauntering, as Lord Eosebery said, was an impossibility to him — mentally or physically; a walk meant four miles an hour sharp, and I remember his regretting the day when he could only go up the Duke of York's steps two at a time. When about to travel he would carefully pack his own despatch-box, so that the book or paper he was reading was uppermost and ready at a mo ment's notice to his hand. In the ordinary acceptation of the phrase, Mr. Gladstone might be described as wanting in humour, but he certainly was not deficient in the rapier-like skill which he employed in the brightest of badinage (or may I call it chaff ?) in the House of Commons. If he was not ready to appreciate the fleeting witticisms which float around society, there were simple stories which he would tell and laugh at with a childlike enjoyment. Two contradictory anecdotes of his humour and his want of appreciation of a joke occur to me. 38 RECOLLECTIONS Mr.' 'Look,' he said to his colleagues on the Bench, ' at those two men ; which is the uglier ? ' They gave their opinion. ' No,' said he ; ' you do not approach the; question from the proper point. If you were tO magnify your man he would, on a colossal scale, become dignified and even imposing ; but my man, the more you magnified him the meaner he would become.' The Admiralty got into a great scrape by sending a condemned transport called the ' Me- gsera ' to sea in spite of a report of unseaworthi ness ; she sprang a leak and was beached. During the debate which arose on it, Mr. Goschen, then First Lord of the Admiralty, tried to justify himself by emphasising the fact that the leak was very small. Lord Young, who was Lord Advocate at the time, sat next Lowe, and said : ' It is lucky it is a little one, because he'll have to swallow it.' Lowe repeated it to Mr. Gladstone, who never smiled, and evidently showed his want of appreciation of the joke, or disapproval of its frivolity at such a moment. As a talker, he would pour out floods of in-. Gladstone HIS MODESTY 39 formation and eloquence, even on small points, probing deeper than anybody could desire into the origin of every subject, illustrating Joubert's axiom : ' To occupy ourselves with little things as with great, to be as fit and ready for the one as for the other, is not weakness and littleness but power and sufficiency.' But he would frequently become too much absorbed in the question to possess the gift of the conversationalist, whose highest art it is to give and take, and toss the ball to and fro lightly across the table, and be ' not only witty in himself, but the cause that wit is in other men.' The subject was never difficult to find ; what ever it was, he was prepared fully to dilate on its minutest details. Nothing demonstrated his modesty more than his criticism of sermons. It was constantly my lot to go to church with him, and I only once recollect his criticising adversely, as we lesser men habitually do, the sermon that he heard. ' A very notable sermon,' he would say to me ; or, ' A very remarkable reference that he made to Isaiah,' and so on. Once only, coming away from the Chapel Eoyal, he exclaimed against tt 40 RECOLLECTIONS Mr. very beautiful sermon of Mr. White's of the Savoy, ' because,' he said, ' he has excited my brain by his quotations, and given me anything but the rest which is what I want and expect to find in church.' Mr. Gladstone never omitted attending ser vice twice every Sunday, and used always to hold me in small repute in being, as he termed it, a ' once-er.' Lord Eosebery, in his 'Life of Pitt,' tells us of a discussion which took place as to the quality most required in a statesman. One said elo quence ; one knowledge ; one toil ; and Pitt said patience. Surely Mr. Gladstone was endowed with all these qualities, but the fairy that presided at his birth denied him the gift of proportion. He would often use the strength of a steam hammer to break a nut ; he would treat a stupid interruption in a debate by an insignificant member of Parliament as solemnly as a weighty argument from a distinguished opponent; he would compare Lord Althorp to Oliver Crom- weU, and I am not sure that he would not give the pre-eminence to the former. Gladstone HIS POWER OF BELIEF 41 I never feared to approach and even to remonstrate with him on any important subject, but I was terrified at the look and words of intense annoyance which were sure to be elicited by some silly little request from an ardent admirer to put his signature to a photograph or a book. Sir Edward Hamilton, in his excellent mono graph on Mr. Gladstone, talks of his credulity, and he certainly possessed an extraordinary gift of believing, and sincerely believing, what he wanted to believe. Indeed, the secret of his success was largely owing to his moral earnest ness. This was the power by which, more even than by his oratory or his intellect, he swayed the masses of his fellow-countrymen. Nobody could come within reach of him without feeling that he was profoundly pene trated himself with the truth of everything he said. In 1875, when he had temporarily resigned the leadership of the Liberal party to Lord Hartington, Mrs. Neville Lyttelton told me he was dining on Sunday with Mrs. Stuart-Wortley, in a state of spirits almost childish, for I suppose 42 EECOLLECTIONS Me.i he really thought at the moment that he had retired from active politics. He told her how he had attended service in the Chapel Eoyal, probably for the last time, as he connected it with Parliamentary life, and he felt inclined to: say coming out of the door : Good-bye, church ; good-bye, steeple ; Good-bye, parson ; good-bye, people. A lady who lived at East Sheen recollected about that time his going down to Lord Leven's and rolling down a grass bank, in the very abandonment of his joy. Indeed, he always believed in his retirement. Long before that came he said to a neighbour at dinner : ' My great wish is to be out of all the strife. At my age I ought to be one of those " whose faces are set towards Zion, and who go up thither ; " this is only a preparatory school — only a preparatory school.' M. des Jardins, at the annual meeting of the Academy of Moral and Political Sciences in Paris, said : ' Mr. Gladstone might have sat here at his choice among our philosophers, our historians, Gladstone HIS VEESATILITY 43 our jurists, our economists, or our moralists. He summed up in his person all the Moral Sciences ; better still, he carried out the doc trines which he professed. Even while in office he knew how, if necessary, to set the right of mankind above British interests.' To this I may add, without fear of contra diction, that he was a scholar, financier, theologian, administrator, and orator of the highest order ; unrivalled as a Parliamentary tactician; while one of his chief claims to the admiration of posterity will be that he was able at will to excite the enthusiasm, rouse the sympathies, and call forth the love and the hatred, both alike passionate, of his fellow- countrymen. That Mr. Gladstone's political Ufe has been advantageous to our country I cannot doubt, but posterity alone can decide ; of this, how ever, I am sure, that it wiU be ' counted to him for righteousness,' for it is the struggle and not the victory that constitutes the glory of noble hearts. 44 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- CHAPTEE XIII 1872-1875 Chesterfield Street in 1872 : Historical Associations — Watts's Studio : the Cosmopolitan Club — The Board of Inland Eevenue : Herries and Stephenson — Visit to Paris : Traces of the Siege — Visit to Studley in January 1873 — Dicky Doyle — Deaths of Bishop Wilberforce and Lord Westbury — Eoyal Commission on Judicial Establishments — First Visit to Hawarden — Mr. Glad stone and Tree-felling — Sir Frederick Abel's Experiment — Mr. Gladstone on the Extravagance of the Indian Council — His Defeat on the Irish Education Bill— The Election of 1874— Eetrospect of the Government of 1868-1874 — Fire at the Pan technicon — Froude and Kingsley — Holidays at Datchet — Lord Granville on Landscape Gardening — Death of Lady Caroline Barrington — Eesidenoe at Wimbledon and Fairmile Common. In 1872 we took up our abode in Chesterfield Street, still charming, though not the Chester field Street of my earliest recollections, with Chesterfield House peopled by the Duke and Duchess of Abercorn and their beautiful daughters ; the house, as Lord Chesterfield called it, of canonical pillars, which were brought from Canons, the seat of the Duke 1875 CHESTEEFIELD STREET 45 of Buckingham, near Edgware, but now, in the miserable greed for money, shorn of its lovely garden and its ancestral rookery. Close by was the house where the great Disraeli, Lord Beaoonsfield, breathed his last, and where Becky Sharp was found on that un lucky night by poor Eawdon Crawley in the arms of Lord Steyne. There, too, is what I have always rightly or wrongly imagined to be Thackeray's Lady Whittlesea's Chapel, where Charles Honeyman preached in the morning, and coughed in the afternoon ' for the women like a consumptive parson.' At any rate, it has its historical reminiscences ; for, if it is not the building, it is the spot on which the Chapel stood where the Duke of Hamilton married the beautiful Miss Gunning at midnight. The historical Misses Berry's house. No. 8, is still as it was in the days when their salon was famous, and their drawing-rooms crowded with the most brilliant society of London. Chesterfield Street itself was where Beau Brummell lived, the famous dandy of the Eegent's time ; and later on was the abode of another dandy, with none of the faults of his 46 RECOLLECTIONS 1872- predecessor, Alfred Montgomery, who, unlike Brummell, accumulated friends as he advanced in years, and whose death was bitterly regretted by them all. There at the corner is Watts's old studio, one of the great walls of which is covered with a life-size fresco taken from a story of Boccaccio's (' The Spectre Huntsman '), where a nude young woman, as a punishment for having jilted her lover, is pursued by furies and wild dogs, he to whom she had behaved so badly in her life bringing a party of friends to see the fate of this poor hunted girl. The room is now the abode of the Cosmopolitan Club, and it was a standing joke of Stirling-Maxwell's to say to any inquirer into the subject of the picture, ' You have no doubt heard of Watts's hymns ; that is one of his hers.' It is a remarkable Club, which originally, in 1851, met in Eobert Morier's rooms in Bond Street. The original list of members contained the names of Eobert Lowe, Layard, Harcourt, Watts, Euskin, Venables, Brookfield, Spedding, Palgrave, H. PhiUips, and Arthur Eussell ; it meets only on Wednesdays and Sunday nights, 1875 THE COSMOPOLITAN CLUB 47 when painters and politicians, officials, soldiers, and literary men assemble for a talk and a friendly pipe. Visions of departed evenings rise in my recollection — when I have seen Alfred Wigan delight us all with his impersonation of the strong man or the bounding brick of Babylon, and Juhan Fane give us wonderful impersona tions of Eachel in her famous rdle of Adrienne Lecouvreur. There I saw Motley, Millais, Monckton Milnes, whom Carlyle called ' The Perpetual President of the Heaven and Hell Amalgamation Society,' and heard Tom Taylor tell us how in his drive into London from Clap- ham he had been told by the omnibus driver, ' It seems to me, sir, that society's pretty well nigh at a end in Paris.' ' How so ? ' said Taylor. ' Well,' he continued, ' I was reading in the paper last night that they were making barricades of omnibuses, and I thinks to myself, when they do that society's pretty well nigh at a end.' It was on his return from this Club that Mr. Bonteen was murdered in Lansdowne Passage in TroUope's novel of ' Phineas Eedux.' Here I have seen Tom Hughes of Eugby 48 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- renown smoking his old pipe, and George Barrington his cigarette ; Laurence Oliphant, just back from the Lake of Tiberias ; Browning and Tennyson, between whom no spark of jealousy existed ; Millais and Thackeray, who never took in the spirit of the place when he said, ' Here everybody is, or is supposed to be, a celebrity. Nobody ever says anything worth hearing, and everybody goes there at midnight with a white choker, to appear as if he had been dining with the aristocracy.' These are to the present generation only ghosts — simulacra. On what shore tarry they now ? In August 1872 I took my seat at the Board of Inland Eevenue, consisting then of Sir William Stephenson, chairman ; Mr., afterwards Sir Charles Herries, deputy chairman (son of the former Chancellor of the Exchequer) ; Mr. Alfred Montgomery and Mr. Eoberts, commissioners ; but it was conceded that I might continue to assist Mr. Gladstone till the end of the session, or at any rate till my successor was appointed. It was ultimately decided that Frederick Caven dish should undertake the office. 1875 VISIT TO PARIS 49 Sir W. Stephenson at once told me that I held an office where it was possible to do very little or a great deal. He recommended the latter course, and I soon found that he and Herries provided me with every possible oppor tunity of learning my work. Two better men were never yoked together in the management of a great Department : Sir William Stephen son's calm judgment, cool temper, and good sense made him an admirable chairman ; while Herries, a scholar, a lover of detail, and a beautiful writer, supplied all that the chairman lacked. In October my wife and I went for a short holiday to Paris, where we were to meet Sir Eeginald Welby, and to see what appeared to us to be the wrecked remains of that City of Pleasure. While there we drove to the Pont de Neuilly and back through the Bois, contem plating the ruins and desolation of the siege and the Commune. Nearly all the houses were destroyed, though new ones were rapidly rising from the ruins. All the fine trees in the Bois near Paris had been cut down. We saw Descl^e at the Gymnase, and VOL. II. E 50 RECOLLECTIONS 1872- ' Eabagas,' a skit on Gambetta, and Sardou's ' Patrie.' Welby was a wonderful guide over the battlefields of the Marne. One day, after having breakfasted at the Pavilion Henri Quatre at St. Germain, we walked on the terrace where the German Emperor and his staff were standing when a shot, fired from Mont Valerien, struck the wall below their feet. We went to St. Cloud in a carriage, the driver being dressed in the old postillion fashion ; here the demolition was terrible ; we saw a wall, all that was stand ing of a house, and a birdcage pathetically hanging on it still. In one house over the door was an unexploded shell stuck fast in the plaster. In the Eue du Bac and the Palais Eoyal and the Hotel de Ville were terrible evidences of what Paris had suffered. Another day we visited Versailles, breakfasting at the Hotel des Eeservoirs, and visiting the Palais where, in the Galerie des Glaces, the King of Prussia had been declared Emperor. Passing by the Prefecture, we saw Thiers coming out for his afternoon drive, the only occasion on which I had ever seen him. M. Thiers, by the way, once met an old college friend who said, ' Well, 1875 VISIT TO STUDLEY 51 what have you been doing since we parted?' ' J'ai ete ministre,' said Thiers. ' Protestant ? ' replied his friend. Such is fame. I had some revenue business to transact with the Governor of the Bank, the Vicomte de Pleurae, and much regretted the inadequacy of my French, but consoled myself with the thought that, bad though it might be, the Vicomte could not speak a word of English. When I was Mr. Gladstone's secretary and living in Downing Street, my name was put on the list of those who had the privilege of driving down Constitution Hill. Soon after the Tory accession my wife was stopped by the Park- keeper and told that our name was removed from the list by the Home Secretary without any communication with us, which was a strong order. We mentioned this to Sir Thomas Bid- dulph, the Queen's Privy Purse, and shortly after had the pleasure of receiving a notifica tion from the Home Secretary that he had received Her Majesty's orders to grant us the right during life. In the end of January 1873 we joined a large party at Studley for the coming of age of 52 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- Lord de Grey. There was nothing approaching to architectural beauty in the house, but there was a fine ball-room ; and, as all the world knows, within a mile of it is the most glorious ruin in England — Fountains Abbey. Close to it is a beautiful old house, so beautiful that one marvels at the curious taste that could build in its vicinity a house like the one that glories in the name of Studley Eoyal. The party was a great success, and the host and hostess, young, clever, and charming, did everything to make it so. Among the guests was ' Dicky Doyle,' the clever caricaturist, son of a clever caricaturist father, ' H. B.' By this time he had abandoned his manners and customs of ye Englishe, and his ' Diary of Mr. Pips,' and had already taken to sketches of fairyland, many of which were in Lady Eipon's boudoir ; he was of a singularly simple character, full of dry and good-natured wit and companionship. On June 18, as Gentleman Usher, I had to go down officially to Dover to assist in the reception of the Shah of Persia. There was a fog hanging over the Channel as we arrived, but it became less dense as the sun became more 1875 DEATH OF BISHOP WILBEEFOECE 53 powerful, and the ships of the Channel Squadron appeared, one by one, out of the mist, and saluted — a lovely sight. We returned by special train to Charing Cross with the Granvilles to their house in Carlton House Terrace, to see the procession pass. Unfortunately, a thunderstorm broke and soaked everybody and everything. In the middle of July we had been spending our Sunday at Englemere, Bobsy Meade's place, near Ascot, and on getting our newspapers learnt the sad news of the Bishop of Winches ter's death. He was riding over from Dorking to Holmbury with Lord Granville, when his horse put his foot in a rabbit-hole, and fell (killing him on the spot), in a lovely grass valley near Holmbury. It was a curious coincidence that, after he had started in the morning, he returned, asking for his glasses, 'for,' he said, 'I am going this afternoon to such a beautiful country.' I had been much in contact with him when Mr. Gladstone's Secretary. I recollect on one occasion his telling me how dearly the public like a bit of nepotism, and illustrated it by saying that when he was at Oxford a good living in his 54 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- diocese fell vacant ; he wanted some new blood, but feared the outcry of the clergy in the diocese. At last he appointed his own son, and not a word was said. We were spending a long holiday at Walmer in 1871, when he arrived and delighted us all with his stories. One I remember was of Talleyrand, who was transacting business with the Emperor, when the latter suddenly turned to him, and said : ' I have lately been subject to fits, which I am anxious to conceal. I feel as if I were going to suffer from one now ; if it should be so, keep the fact from everyone.' A minute later the Emperor fell back in his chair, becoming livid. At that moment Talley rand was alarmed by a knock at the door, land an A.D.C. said he had brought a message from the Empress. Talleyrand said the Emperor was engaged at the moment, and could not be disturbed. The A.D.C. angrily retired, and Talleyrand went back to the Emperor, only to find him apparently dying. In great terror at his own position, he heard a loud knock at the door and found the Empress, annoyed at the 1875 DEATH OF LOED WESTBUEY 55 failure of her messenger, demanding admission. Talleyrand audaciously gave her the same answer he had given to her A.D.C, and giving himself up as lost, returned to find the Emperor's pulse beginning to beat. I am bound to say that one of the party, who was a bit of a cynic, went on whispering at each story, ' Absolutely untrue,' ' A complete fabrication,' and so on. On the very day after the Bishop's death died Lord Westbury, who had been Lord Palmerston's Chancellor, a man of great ability, a clever lawyer, utterly unscrupulous, with as bitter a tongue and vitriolic a wit as ever cursed their possessor. He and the Bishop had many acrimonious disputes in the House of Lords, originating with Lord Westbury's applying the word ' saponaceous ' to the Bishop, who was always called ' Soapy Sam.' The Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Lowe, asked me to serve on a Eoyal Commission, appointed to inquire into the Administration Departments of the Courts of Law, an offer which I gladly accepted as giving me some work beyond my own department. Lord Lisgar was our chairman; Baron 56 RECOLLECTIONS 1872- Bramwell, W. Law, George Trevelyan, and Mr. Eowsell were also on the Commission. We worked hard and proposed many reforms which bore fruits in the High Courts of Judi cature Bill. We recommended that a committee should be appointed to give effect to further reforms, and when the Tories came in they appointed it, leaving out Bramwell, Trevelyan, and myself ! Various causes, and the desire to get free from secretarial work when we did get a holiday, had postponed our first visit to Hawarden till 1873. The place has been described so often that it it is needless to go over ground so thoroughly known to everybody interested in it. The life was very simple and somewhat old- fashioned — good plain food, regular and early hours ; Mr. and Mrs. Gladstone going to church every morning at eight and returning to break fast ; then came a little talk, after which Mr. Gladstone went to work in his library, to which he kindly invited me, and showed me his correspondence ; a plain luncheon followed, and then a good walk through a beautifully- 1875 LIFE AT HAWARDEN 57 wooded park tossed about in various undulating glades. In those days he had no favourite dog, and so the talks were long, uninterrupted, and of course intensely interesting about men and all sorts of subjects ; but rarely was a walk finished without some allusion to the height or circumference of the bole of a tree, in which he took a personal interest. Then always five o'clock tea and more reading till dinner, when he held forth on all subjects ; but the one that delighted me most was when he got on to old recollections and memories of Lord Aberdeen, Sir Eobert Peel, and even so far back as Eton days under Keate. It was at a dinner held in this year, where Sir Henry Storks^ and Lord Essex were present, that the conversation turned on tree-felling, on which Mr. Gladstone, of course, was a great ^ Sir Henry Storks, who was a very distinguished soldier and Clerk to the Ordnance, committed the error of going into Parlia ment at the age of seventy-two. One night George Glyn asked him to stay for a division, and in those days the House sat often till three or four o'clock in the morning. ' Yes,' he said, ' I wUl ; but, my dear George, there is never a morning when I shave myself before my looking-glass that I don't say : " Good-morning, yon d d old fool." ' 58 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- authority. He had often told me that if other trades failed he would be able to gain full wages as a timber-cutter. Sir Henry Storks said he thought that for the future trees would be cut down by placing a ring of guncotton round them, and offered to take Mr. Gladstone down to Woolwich to show him some experiments. Time passed, and no vacant afternoon could be found for the expedition, which Mr. Gladstone regretted. He was told that Sir Frederick Abel was pre pared to show him the result of the guncotton necklace on a mast to be erected in the garden in Downing Street, which I went to witness. Sir Frederick undertook that there would be no noise or disturbance of any kind. When I arrived at the gardens I found Ayrton, then First Commissioner of Works, who was not a behever in scientists, protesting against the experiment. On Sir Frederick Abel's assurance, however, the experiment took place, and, after being nearly deafened by a terrific report, I found myself under a shower of broken glass, which feU from the skylight in the First Lord's house. 1875 LETTER FEOM ME. GLADSTONE 59 All the adjoining windows that were open were destroyed, and, contrary to the common belief^ those that were shut escaped the almost uni versal smash, the noise of which was heard in Hyde Park. There was only one person who rejoiced, and that was the triumphant Ayrton. Theories were exploded as well as guncotton. On December 10 Mr. Gladstone wrote to me asking me for some remarks on the extrava gance of the Indian Council, about which we had conversed at Hawarden : Hawarden Castle, Chester : December 10, 1873. ' My dear West, — You gave me a kind of promise to supply me with materials for the purpose of showing that the India Office is less economical in administration (perhaps also in its composition) than our Government generaUy is, or than Treasury principles, so to call them, would require. ' I have at present only a strong, a very strong, suspicion but no particulars. If you could supply them I think it would be of great use in a not improbable contingency. 60 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- ' In my opinion it would be of great advan tage that one place at the Council Table should be filled on the nomination of the Board of Treasury ; and that the person so appointed should be invested with the title to record his reasons officially against any proposed expendi ture where he considers it to be contrary to any rule established for Imperial administration. ' Yours sincerely, ' W. E. Gladstone.' Mr. Lowe had wished me to be appointed as a councillor, and I wrote him a long letter in answer, which is too personal to publish here. Mr. Gladstone was defeated on his Irish Education Bill by a curious combination of Tories, Eoman Catholics, and discontented Liberals, and at once resigned; but the Con servatives were not ready, and cleverly contrived to keep Mr. Gladstone in office. One Sunday I met Mr. Gladstone at the Chapel Eoyal, and had a talk with him about recent elections which had gone against the Government. The next day he had a bad cold and was 1875 ELECTION OF 1874 61 kept in bed for a short time. Here it was that he hatched his plot of a dissolution. Coming home from a dance at Sir William Stephenson's, I found a note from Gurdon telling me what was to appear next morning — the dissolution and the proposed abolition of the income tax. Nothing could exceed the popularity of the movement at the moment, and I received quite an ovation at the Cosmopolitan a few days afterwards. Then came the disastrous election of 1874 — a wholesale defeat, horse and foot — and it became a matter of consideration whether or not the Government should meet Parliament or resign. Mr. Gladstone wrote on the subject of his arrangements to me : 10 Downing Street, Whitehall : February 10, 1874. ' My dear West, — Many thanks for your useful note. ' (1) I see no reason why a vote of credit should not be given at any time after a new Ministry was constituted in its main offices, say March 20 or 22 ; the Easter holidays need not begin until April 1, 2, or even 3. This could be 62 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- done by the Secretary to the Treasury, perhaps even by the outgoing Government. ' (2) I think it would be found that in 1852 and 1858 the Government, taking office in Feb ruary, required a very short time to make up its mind about the Estimates, and I should not have thought it impossible that the Estimates could be laid, on the responsibiUty of the new Government, in Passion Week, but neither would it be necessary. ' Yours ever, 'W. E. G.' I had accordingly the pleasure of going into the whole question of dates and possibilities and precedents since the Duke of Portland's time in 1807, with that most charming authority on all Parliamentary knowledge. Sir Erskine May, Clerk to Parliament. Coming home one February evening, I was met by my wife, who told me that as she was driving back by the Park, near Knightsbridge, there were great sparks from some huge fire falling around her ; so we instantly started forth in the direction of the blaze, which we could 1875 A HISTOEIC FIEE 63 now plainly see was somewhere in Belgravia. We reached Wilton Place, and were admitted into the house of Lady Georgiana Bathurst, from whose windows the fierce flames of the Pantechnicon were painfully glaring. The win dows grew so hot that it was impossible to touch the glass with our hands. Lady Georgiana was crippled with rheumatism, and arrangements had to be made for her removal, in case the flames spread to her house, which happily they did not, and we, having some people dining with us in Chesterfield Street, were obliged to return ; but after dinner Sir Eeginald Welby and I returned to see the end of one of the biggest conflagra tions of our day. The sky seemed ablaze, and the modern Calphurnia might have said : ' The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of Princes,' for within three days Mr. Gladstone's great Government of 1868-74 had ceased to exist. Never was there a Government to com pare with that of Mr. Gladstone's of 1868. The Irish grievance of a dominant Protestant Church of the minority was abolished. National Education was established. Purchase in the 64 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- Army was done away with. The Ballot Bill for the protection of voters was passed into law. The foolish Ecclesiastical Bill was re pealed. The Alabama Arbitration opened up a vista of peace instead of war to the nations of the world. Neutrality was maintained through out the terrible Franco-German war ; while on his defeat Mr. Gladstone left a surplus of 6,000,000Z. to his successor, after having reduced taxation and paid off 26,000,000Z. of the National Debt. In all this work Mr. Gladstone was the guiding and presiding genius, and it was not wonderful that he spent his majority. Before this had come, however, I had ceased to be his Secretary and had become a Com missioner of Inland Eevenue ; but on his return to office he kindly allowed me to see all his correspondence, though, of course, I took no part in political work. Notwithstanding the performances of the 1868-74 Government, Froude so far forgot the duties of the historian in the party man, that he deliberately stated that Mr. Gladstone's Government had nothing to show but revolu- 1875 FEOUDE AND KINGSLEY 65 tionary measures in Ireland, which had hitherto been unattended by success : Voild comment on ecrit Vhistoire! The following lines, which were suggested by certain utterances of Froude and Kingsley, might fittingly be quoted here : Froude informs the Scottish youth That parsons never tell the truth ; At Cambridge Canon Kingsley cries That history's a pack of lies. Such statements how can we combine ? This perhaps explains the mystery, Froude thinks Kingsley a divine. And Kingsley looks to Froude for history. In the summer we let our house in Chester field Street to Mr. Stanley, and took a house at Datchet till the late autumn, when we went to Hill House, and spent much of our time on the river; the C. Hambros, Monty Corry, Welby, and the Charles Stephensons and Lord Morley constantly making up the crew of a famous four oar of Welby's. When we were staying at Walmer, Lord Granville was very anxious that our eldest son, Horace, should serve an apprenticeship to Mr, Thomas, the famous landscape gardener, argu ing he was the only man at the head of the VOL. II. p 66 EECOLLECTIONS 1872- most charming profession in the world, and that he had no one to fill his place, when he should grow older. He wrote on the subject to Mr. Thomas, who answered : ' Once bitten twice shy. I have tried one gentleman and will never try another.' But Lord Granville would not abandon the idea, and afterwards wrote to me the following letter : Walmer Castle, Deal : September 23, 1874. ' My dear West, — I have been thinking over my failure with Thomas, respecting your boy. I regret it, as Thomas himself told me that there was hardly any one in his profession, notwith standing the passion all classes in this country have for improving or spoiling the parks and gardens which they inherit, buy, or erect. ' Thomas has the advantage of being a gentleman, not shy, and pleasant ; but he is evidently not a clever man. If he took your son the advantage would rather be in the connection and the succession than in the learning. ' There are some great landscape gardeners m France — the man who made the new Bois de 1875 LOED GRANVILLE ON GARDENING 67 Boulogne, and others who have been employed by the La Eochefoucaulds, etc. ' In all probability they have more know ledge of the principles of their art than Thomas, and at least as much taste ; they would pro bably be more accessible to a premium, par ticularly with an Englishman, who would not become a rival in France, and might introduce them to a connection in England. They would teach French for nothing. ' If your boy has a turn for drawing and construction, after a year or two of study of French gardening and landscape gardening, an architect like Devey might make use of him for the outdoor part of his work, and he might push himself into the tolerably lucrative and very pleasant occupation of the English " Le Notre " of the generation. ' It is not clear that Thomas might not be too glad to get hold of him at the end of that time. — Yours,- ' GeAN VILLE.' Later on the same dear friend asked Mr. Devey to give our youngest son a chance of entering the ' delightful profession ' of an archi- 68 RECOLLECTIONS 1872- tect, which he did ; and though Mr. Devey's early death sundered the friendship which was begun so auspiciously between them, the educa tion our son had received from him remained, to which I am sure he will attribute a great part of his present success. In the spring of 1875, Lady Caroline Barrington, my wife's mother, caught a chill, and died at Kensington Palace. Lady Caroline Barrington was the third daughter of Charles, Earl Grey. In 1827 she was married to Captain Hon. George Barrington, E.N., who was a Lord of-the Admiralty in Lord Grey's Administration. He died in 1835, and Lady Caroline had lived with her father at Howick until she was ap pointed Lady of the Bedchamber to the Queen, and took up her residence at Windsor. She subsequently became Lady Superintendent on Lady Lyttelton's retirement from that post. Nothing could exceed the kindness of all the royalties, who were devoted to her. The Prince of Wales, the Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Louis of Hesse, the Duke of Connaught, and Prince Christian attended her funeral at Kensal Green. We let our house in Chesterfield Street and 1875 FAIRMILE COMMON 69 took the new house at Wimbledon, which belonged to Dr. Sandwith, one of the heroes of Kars. Charles Barrington came and lived here with us till the autumn, when we moved further -off and took a little place near Fairmile Common, Esher. One evening we were standing on the road when we heard the shuffling steps of an old man passing by ; as soon as he had done so he sank on the bank, and on our going to his assistance he said : ' I mostly 'as a fit going up 'ill.' I asked him where he was going, and he replied : ' Down there towards Cobham.' I, trying to cheer him, said : ' That's all right, as it is down-hill all the way.' 'Ah ! ' said he ; ' that's the worst of it ; I always pitches on my 'ead going down 'UI.' And yet he had in that hilly country been out for a long day's pleasuring ! Lady Eose, who of all the women I ever knew was the brightest and most witty, was much amused at this story, and told me that, asking a poor woman once how her husband was, the reply came : ' Oh, he is better to-day ; and indeed, I have always remarked that if he gets through May, he generally lives through the rest of the year.' 70 EECOLLECTIONS 1875-^ CHAPTEE XIV 1875-1879 Mr. Gladstone's Motive in Eetiring from the Leadership — Lord Granville on the House of Lords. — Visit to Tintagel — Dinner with the Archbishop of Canterbury — Hawker of Morwenstow — ¦ Sir George Trevelyan's ' Life of Macaulay ' — Mr. Gladstone on Croker in the ' Quarterly ' — Lord Lyttelton's Death — Mr. Glad* stone's Speech at Blackheath on the Bulgarian Atrocities — His Literary Conversations — Mr. Gladstone's Hat — Verger the Phrenologist — Mr. Gladstone's use of Unparliamentary Language — His Letter to Mr. Herries — My Appointment as Deputy- Chairman of the Inland Eevenue Board — Visit to Hawarden in 1878 — Mr. Gladstone's Estimates of Forster and Lowe — Lord Lawrence and Lord Lytton — Anecdote of Sir Drummond Wolff — Mr. John Murray on Successful Authors — Stamp Eeform : My Victory over Welby — Letter from Mr. Lingen — Marriage of the Duke of Connaught — Visit to Studley. Me. Gladstone retired from the Leadership of the Opposition in the House of Commons,, partly from a desire of rest, but mainly I think from his disUke of daily confronting Mr. DisraeU, a man so utterly opposed to him, not only in politics, but in thoughts, tastes, and desires,. It was necessary to choose a leader, and it lay 1879 VISIT TO TINTAGEL 71 between Mr. Forster and Lord Hartington ; naturally the House of Commons preferred the Duke's son. Lord Granville told me very truly, that while the House of Lords daily sank in the estimation of the country, the love of the individual lord increased in proportion. In February there was a question of my transfer from the Board of Inland Eevenue to the Under- Secretaryship of the India Office, which Mr. Gladstone rather favoured; but it was settled otherwise. In the autumn we paid a visit to Lady Hayter, who had inherited from Mr. Cook, the editor of the ' Saturday Eeview,' a cottage at Tintagel, which in those days was over twenty miles distant from a railway station. In this far-off county, the Bodmin and Wadebridge line was one of the first opened to the pubUc by the London and South- Western Eailway Company, in the room of whose chairman may be seen a picture of the train and its open carriages ; in front of the engine and between the buffers sat a man whose business it was to get down and open the gates. It was a great charm to us jaded Londoners to get to this wild country. 72 EECOLLECTIONS ' 1875- On our way we passed through one of the pre^ Eeform close boroughs of Cornwall — Camelford — which had the honour of returning Lord Henry Petty, afterwards Lord Lansdowne, and Henry, afterwards Lord Brougham. All our time was spent in expeditions to King Arthur's Castle, to Eough Tor, Brown Willy and Slaughter Bridge, near the scene of that great battle in the west, where rumour says King Arthur lies buried. When staying here we got a message from the genial rector, saying that the Archbishop of Canterbury was coming to pass the night at his house, and asking the whole party to meet him at dinner, and to bring all our servants to wait. We were a joyous party, and all day long we had a misgiving that we should indecorously laugh at the wrong moment. The hour and the dinner came, and all went smoothly until a fine dish of Cornish junket appeared in Mr. Kinsman's best china bowl ; which, however? had been mended. Just as my servant was handing it, the piece broke away, and the whole junket poured over our host's best evening coat. ' God ' he exclaimed ; and then in a tone 1879 HAWKER OF MORWENSTOW 73 subdued in deference to his guest, ' bless the Queen ' — whereupon we all burst into uncon trolled laughter, and the rest of the evening was most merry. During one of our visits we were tempted to pass a night at Bude, and to drive over the following day to a sale at Morwenstow, the house of the Eev. Eobert Hawker, who had recently died. In early manhood he had married an old lady, who paid the expenses of his education at college ; and in late life turned the tables by marrying a very young wife. He was eccentric in his dress, his manners, and his ways, and worked hard in rescuing victims of the savage wreckers of the Cornish coast. He was also a poet, and was the author of And shall Trelawney die ? And shall Trelawney die ? Then thirty thousand Cornish boys Will know the reason why. The miners from the caverns re-echoed the song: Then twenty thousand underground Will know the reason why. These lines were quoted by Macaulay in his ' History ' as being an old Cornish ballad. On RECOLLECTIONS 1875- discovering that this was a modern song of Mr, Hawker's, instead of a real song of Cornish miners, at the time of the trial of the seven bishops, Macaulay must have been as dis appointed as I was on finding that the ' Wear- in' of the Green ' was not a revolutionary ballad of 1798, but, in the form we know it, was evolved from the quick and poetical brain of Boucicault, for his play of the ' Colleen Bawn.' In the beginning of the year 1876, George Trevelyan's delightful ' Biography of Lord Macaulay ' appeared. In it there were some very severe remarks on John Wilson Croker, which were shown to his widow, who was our next-door neighbour; she was naturally un happy, and to please her I wrote to Trevelyan, who was very kind, and promised to expunge the objectionable passages from his next edition, regretting their insertion. I also, at Mrs. Croker's request, saw Mr. Gladstone and got his authority to ask Mr. John Murray if he would insert an article in the ' Quarterly ' on the biography, in which Mr. Gladstone said he would put Croker in a truer position. In talking over Lord Macaulay's character 1879 MR. GLADSTONE AND LORD LYTTELTON 7 b Mr. Gladstone remarked that he never had any idea of proportion and often would absolutely despise an opponent whom the world thought was nearly his equal ; and this was the case with Croker, who was, no doubt, a formidable antagonist. Mr. Gladstone wrote his article, which, while most complimentary to Trevelyan's ' Biography,' had the merit of making poor Mrs. Croker satisfied. Going to him one morning I learnt that Lord Lyttelton, in a fit of depression, had destroyed himself. Mr. Gladstone, whose life long friend he had been, was deeply grieved ; he told me how he partly laid the blame at his own door, for he had met him a day or two before at dinner, and had made a suggestion to him to commence a Concordance of the Odyssey, as he was the only person who could do it satis factorily. ' I did not,' he added, ' press it upon him as vigorously as I should have done, for, had I succeeded, the work would have interested him and occupied his attention and perhaps might have saved him from himself.' It was in this year that Mr. Gladstone was the mouthpiece of the nation in denouncing the 76 RECOLLECTIONS 1875- massacres known as the Bulgarian atrocities, and I heard him address a meeting of 10,000 people at Blackheath, where I went with Lord Carrington and my son Horace, and shall never forget the effect of his magic voice and delivery. There was a knot of people bent on interrup tion, who, in little more than a few moments, were reduced into unwilling silence, and soon after into rapt attention and enthusiastic applause. We were now living at Kensington Palace, and Mr. Gladstone, having no London house, came with Mrs. Gladstone to pay us a visit. We had in his honour many pleasant little political dinners, which reminded us of our dinners on Thursdays when we were in Downing Street, of which only the memory remains. But it is a bright memory of Mr. Gladstone as the central figure, ever brimming over with earnest talk, to which the whole dinner party listened with rapt attention. Thus I remember how Mr. Gladstone, in comparing George Eliot and Walter Scott, remarked on the unsatisfactory nature of all the former's marriages. 1879' ME. GLADSTONE'S MEMOEY 77 ' But,' said Mrs. NeviUe Lyttelton, ' Scott's are so colourless.' ' Colourless,' he said, ' what do you say to Meg Merrilies, and Eebecca ? ' ' Neither were married,' said Mrs. Lyttel ton. Mr. Gladstone did not answer, but went on to say : ' How well I recollect, as a boy, lying on my stomach on the grass, reading Walter Scott's novels as they came out in numbers ! ' After one of his great speeches he asked Mrs. Lyttelton after Mrs. Clive, instead of her mother, Mrs. Stuart-Wortley, and, detecting his mistake, he groaned over what he called 'the lamentable state of his memory.' ' But,' she said, ' through all your long Liverpool speech, you never referred to a note.' ' Ah,' he said, ' of course if I make an effort I can remember.' Mr. Gladstone constantly told us that nearly every year he was obliged to have his hat enlarged. ' I always stick to mine,' he said, ' as there are only two men whose hats I could ever get on my head — one the Duke of Newcastle's, the other Lord Stanhope's. The latter was a 78 EECOLLECTIONS 1875- very remarkable man, though not conspicuous in Parliament, and a staunch friend. We entered Parliamentary life together as followers of Sir Eobert Peel; we afterwards diverged, but it never affected our friendship.' Lord Stanhope was responsible for taking him to a man called Verger, who, he said, classified qualities according to certain bumps on the skull by placing one hand on the head, and his other on some conducting medium with corresponding circles, and thus defined the character. Mr. Gladstone rather believed in him, as he told him how many qualities he was deficient in, among others in the retention and memory of faces, which was true. In June 1877 I met Mr. Gladstone at dinner at Mrs. Milbank's, and repeated to him what Lord Beaoonsfield had told Sir William Stephenson on his recommending Mr. Herries as his successor : ' These appointments should be considered not as official promotions but as political prizes,' and, therefore, I considered our chances of succession small. ' D n him,' said Mr. Gladstone ; and this, after a long and close intercourse, was the first of only two occasions 1879 QUOTATIONS IN THE HOUSE 79 on which I ever heard him make use of an unparliamentary expression. On the second occasion he was talking of oratory in the House of Commons, and re gretting that classical quotations were no longer appreciated. He instanced Pitt's quotation from Virgil in his speech on the slave trade, which he considered one of the most apposite he knew, and added : ' If a quotation were made in the House now, they would not care about it a d n.' The quotation, and the words .preceding it which I have referred to, ran as follows : ' Then also will Europe, participating in her (Africa's) improvement and prosperity, receive an ample recompense for the tardy kindness (if kindness it can be called) of no longer hindering that continent from extricating herself out of the darkness, which in other more fortunate regions has been so much more speedily dis pelled : Nos primus equis Oriens afflavit anhelis : lUic sera rubens accendit lumina Vesper.' It was at the end of June that Lord Beacons- field gave the chairmanship of the Board of 80 EECOLLECTIONS 1875- Inland Eevenue to Herries, and this was the note he received from Mr. Gladstone on his appointment : 73 Harley Street : June 19, 1877. ' Dear Mr. Herries, — I hope I do not take an undue liberty in congratulating you on your arrival at the head of your great Department. ' My long-continued official relations with you enable me in some degree to bear willing testimony to the wisdom and justice of the selection which the Government have made. ' You follow a series of admirable chiefs, and I feel assured you will be able to maintain the high level of the tradition. ' In all my many transactions with the Board of Inland Eevenue, I found continually increasing reason to admire the sound and enlightened spirit of the Department ; and I do not recollect so much as a single instance either of rashness or of slackness in the transaction of that mass of business which it was my duty and my pleasure to carry on by their aid. ' W. E. Gladstone.' The appointment of Deputy was kept in 1879 LETTEE FEOM ME. GLADSTONE 81 abeyance, though, of course, I discharged the duties of the place until the end of the session. On my asking Lord Beaoonsfield's secretary whether there was any chance of the appoint ment being completed, he said : ' It is difficult to say when one of my chief's mottoes is : " Depend upon it delay is the secret of suc cess." ' On August 13, I heard from Lord Beacons- field offering me the appointment of Deputy, and Walter Northcote, Sir Stafford's eldest son, was appointed in my place. Mr. Gladstone wrote to me the following letter : Hawarden Castle, Chester : August 15, 1877. ' My dear West, — I send you on the part of all here a line of hearty congratulation, and I also congratulate the public on an appointment so conducive to its interests. ' I have always looked on the Board of Inland Eevenue as nearly approaching---so to speak — the ideal, and I am sure it will not degenerate under present circumstances. ' Smith must be a loss to you ; and it is •uncertain till he is further proved what gain he VOL. II. a 82 EECOLLECTIONS 1875-. will be to the Admiralty. Stanley is clever, but can an heir to the earldom of Derby descend to the saving of candle-ends, which is very much the measure of a good Secretary to the Treasury ? ' Pray remember us if you come northwards, and believe me, most sincerely yours, ' W. E. Gladstone.' In the following November we paid a visit to Hawarden ; and after dinner Mr. Gladstone dis cussed at great length the difficulties attending the formation of a new Liberal Government. It is always supposed that Mr. Gladstone did not understand men ; but if he did not, he could nevertheless make very shrewd guesses as to their capabilities, erring, no doubt, too often on the lenient side. Mr. Lowe he considered a man fitted by nature for offence rather than defence, stronger in opposition than in office. He was always impressed with the ability and honesty of Mr. W. E. Forster ; but he was weU aware that with them was ' combined a strong ingredient of vanity and want of tact. I think it was Bishop Wilberforce who said that if any man prided himself more especially on one 1879 INDIAN POLICY 83' quality, the chances were strongly in favour of his being deficient in it. It was about this time that Lord Lawrence, with all his authority, had been denouncing Lord Lytton's unhappy policy in regard to Afghani stan, which led to such disastrous results. Notwithstanding Lord Salisbury's positive assurances that no attempt had been made to force an envoy on the Ameer, that our relations with him had not since last year undergone any material change, and that his feelings were in no way embittered towards the British Govern ment, Lord Lawrence endeavoured to raise the country against the policy of Lord Lytton, who said that the opinion of his private secretary was worth twenty Lawrences. With this object a Committee was being formed, and while I was at Hawarden a telegram arrived asking Mr. Gladstone to join it. Personally he was inclined to accede to the proposal, and thus give a cue to the party ; but he ended by consulting Lord Granville, though he thought him apt to take too many people into his confidence ; so unlike, he said, to Peel, who only took a very few. G 2 84 EECOLLECTIONS 1875-^ Lord Grey and Lord Halifax had written, the former vigorously, favouring an agitation for the summoning of Parliament ; but Lord Granville, while approving of the object of the Committee, was opposed to Mr. Gladstone or himself being members of it. After this the conversation reverted, as it so often did, to his early conceptions of Peel, who except on a few points was essentially Liberal, indeed far more so than Palmerston ever was. He thought O'Connell, excep't perhaps Mirabeau, the greatest demagogue that ever lived, and in that way superior even to Bright. We then turned to another favourite subject of his, and naturally of mine — the Inland Eevenue Department. He laid down as an axiom that the Chairman of. that Board should always, in forming his estimates, be guided in forecasting the revenue for the coming year by what, humanly speaking, he was sure of getting ; and it was the duty of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to accept it. He never but once, in his nine years' experience as Chancellor of the 1879 DEUMMOND WOLFF 85 Exchequer, ventured to alter estimates given him by the Chairman of the Inland Eevenue Board, and in that instance only differed from him as to how much revenue would be lost by altering the incidence of the income tax. I often wonder at the closeness with which revenue estimates for a coming year are made. In the eleven years during which I was Chairman of the Inland Eevenue Board — thanks to the efficient help of my advisers — the returns ex ceeded my estimates only by 500,000Z. on an average. Incidentally Drummond Wolff came under discussion, and I told Mr. Gladstone that, with one exception, I did not believe Wolff bore animosity to anyone. As an instance of his diplomatic talent, I told Mr. Gladstone that I was once sitting with Wolff in the portico of the Athenaeum when a notorious bore appeared. Wolff was equal to the occasion and shook hands with him warmly, saying : ' Good-bye good-bye.' The bore was so taken aback that he speedily retreated. The next day arrived Lord Bath and Mr. Dodson at Hawarden ; the former, whom I had 86 RECOLLECTIONS 1875- always known as a Tory, had come over on the Eastern question, and, like all converts, was more Liberal than the Liberals. Mr. John Murray came in time for dinner, and there was interesting publishing talk. Mr. Murray told us that Sir Walter Scott was, in a money point of view, the greatest English author, but successful only after his death ; and it was sad to think how httle he and his family made out of his writings, though probably not less than 400,000L had been reaUsed from first to last. Then came in order Charles Dickens, Tenny son, and Macaulay. Shortly after I returned to London and Somerset House, I received a long letter from Mr. Gladstone on the subject of income tax statistics, which he said he was sure, ' from the high organisation of your Department,' I should be able to answer. He was careful to add : ' My object is purely non-political, at least not against the Government. I think I see my way towards estimating the relative effects of raUways, etc., on one side, free trade on the other, in promoting wealth, which I think has never been done.' 1879 MR. GLADSTONE AND JOBS 87 It is always a new source of wonder to me to think of how inexhaustible Mr. Gladstone's energies were. Lord Hampton, at an advanced age, had recently been appointed Chief Commissioner of the Board of Civil Service Commissioners. His appointment at the time was looked on as a job, and Mr. Gladstone, to whom a job was like a red rag to a bull, thought so also; Sir Ealph Lingen, then Secretary to the Treasury, had proved to me that Sir Stafford Northcote had acted on his advice, and with the best motives. I sent the papers and explanation to Mr. Glad stone, who, it appears, had also heard from Sir Stafford : ' Many thanks,' he says, ' for the figures re Hampton. Northcote spontaneously supplied the particulars contained in the letter within, which I thought you might like to see. Here upon I withdraw the word " job." ' Up to January 1881 the penny postage stamp could only be used for postal and not the ordinary inland revenue purposes, such as receipts, etc. It seemed to me that numerous involuntary evasions of this duty took place. 8S EECOLLECTIONS ' 1875- simply because people in the transactions of ordinary business did not always have the revenue stamps by their side, and I made a pro posal to the Chancellor of the Exchequer that one stamp should be made to meet both postage and revenue purposes. The Secretary of the Treasury, now Lord Welby, in the interests of statistical accuracy opposed it. Mr. Gladstone sent for us and told us we were to enter the lists; and tilt, and he would act as assessor. After some argument Mr. Gladstone awarded me the palm, and the change was ordered to take effect. Henry Northcote sent me the following decree on hearing of Welby's defeat : ; ' Libbete, ' FbATEE- [sta/inps2 NITE, ' Egalite. ' De par la Eepublique une et indivisible. ' Les soussignes out juge convenable de pub- lier le Decret suivant : ; ' Le citoyen Welby, representant de I'ancienne faction aristocrate intitul^e Whig, ayant et6 d^nonce comme suspect d'avoir parle centre la 1879 TILT WITH WELBY 89 fusion fraternelle des timbres ci-joints, est con- damne par ce present aux peines suivantes. ' Les biens du citoyen Welby seront affectes aux besoins particuliers des membres du Comite du Salut Public soussignes, moyennant la somme de vingt-cinq shillings (monnaie anglaise) dans laquelle le citoyen Welby se trouve actuellement debiteur a la Deesse de la Eaison par les mains du citoyen J. A. Kempe. ^ En outre le citoyen Welby est serieusement prevenu de se garder bien de faire aucune recla mation centre cet arret sous peine d'etre con- damne comme contumace et d'avoir la tete tranchee par le bourreau public, le citoyen F. Bi Garnett, sur la Place Somerset House. ' Vive la Eepublique ! Istamp] ' Vu et approuve, ' Eobespieeke.' (Signe) Eobespieebe. Heebies. • Danton. West. Maeat. Montgomeey. COLLOT d'Heebois. Keith Falconee. St.-Just. Noethcotb. 90 RECOLLECTIONS 1875- When Deputy-Chairman of the Board of Inland Eevenue, I was deeply occupied with the administration, and to my no small delight I received the following letter from Mr. Lingen, who was the distinguished Secretary of the Treasury, and my pleasure was added to by Mr. Gladstone's approval : Treasury : February C, 1879., ' Dear Mr. Algernon West, — Some figures which I occupied the greater part of last Sunday in getting out, bring out this most satisfactory result, that, excluding a temporary and not excessive addition to the non-effective change, you were able — (1) To improve the emolument of your outdoor service — a necessity long accu mulated and postponed till the latest moment that the safety of the revenue admitted — to the extent of 80,000Z. per annum nearly ; ' (2) To make the sarae sort of change and for the same reasons in your Legacy and Succes sion Duties Office ; ' (3) To reform and stamp with a professional character your Solicitors' Office ; ' (4) In all your Departments to provide for 1879 LETTER FROM LINGEN 91 the introduction of the Playfair scheme, by well- considered present arrangements. ' All this for an addition of no more than 10,000Z. a year to your vote. It gave me sincere pleasure to call the Chancellor of the Exchequer's notice to these figures yesterday — who expressed his warm satisfaction vrith them — and to tell him that nineteen-twentieths of this good admin istrative work was personally due to yourself, supported by your Board. ' Very truly yours, 'E. E. W. Lingen.' Algernon West, Esq. To this I returned the following reply : Board of Inland Eevenue : February 6, 1879. ' My dear Mr. Lingen, — I must thank you very warmly and sincerely for your letter of to day, which, I think, has given me more pleasure than any letter I have ever received on official matters, and I must also thank you for the generous and kind thought which made you write it. ' I wish I could end here without repudiating, as I must in all fairness, the share you allot me in the reorganisation of our offices. 92 EECOLLECTIONS 1875- ' For my own part I can onlyjtake a small proportion, for without the approval and cordial co-operation of my Chairman, and the help we got from our secretaries and assistant-secretaries in the office, I could have done very little. You must let me consider your letter therefore as an approval of the work of our Board, and in that sense I will not be one atom the less grateful to you for it. ' I am sure we should be ungrateful if we did not thank you for all the patient labour you have incurred in our behalf, and all the help we have always had from you. 'Yours very truly, 'Algeenon West.' E. E. W. Lingen, Esq., C.B. I could not resist the pleasure of sending this correspondence to Mr. Gladstone, who said in answer : Harley Street : March 24, 1879. 'My dear West, — I need not say, and yet cannot help saying, that I have read these letters with much pleasure, but with no surprise. ' Ever yours sincerely, ; 'W. E. Gladstone.' . 1879 DUKE OF CONNAUGHT'S WEDDING 93 In May I took my daughter, Constance, to Windsor, where I was in waiting, to the Duke of Oonnaught's wedding. The Duke himself and his pretty bride, with a childish little pout as if S^he were going to cry, on the arm of her father, the Eed Prince, in a very red uniform — all made a pretty picture. Of all the sights I have ever seen, and they have been many, nothing ever smiles on me so much as a religious ceremonial in St. George's Chapel, with the music, the painted windows, and the antiquity of the heraldic banners, which for the moment, at any rate, make one think that the Knights of the Garter may be proud of their Order for other reasons than that ascribed to it by Lord Melbourne. In the autumn we paid a visit to Studley, and were entranced with the beauty of Fountains Abbey. From there we went to Castle Howard — then occupied by Lord and Lady Lanerton — the magnificent palace, built by Vanbrugh, approached by a fine avenue of clumps of trees converging on an obelisk raised in honour of the great Duke of Marlborough, with splendid fountains and garden statuary ; and inside, 94 RECOLLECTIONS 1879 the splendid picture of the three Marys — the largest place, next to Blenheim, which I had ever seen. We missed our connection at Thirsk and travelled with the inspecting engineer, whose coach only was attached to the engine, which to us was rather exciting. 1880 95 CHAPTEE XV 1880 Announcement of the Dissolution — Mr. Gladstone's Second Mid lothian Campaign — Herbert Gladstone's Candidature for Middlesex — Letters from Mr. Gladstone — Adam's Prophecies of Victory — Mr. Bright's Tribute to Mr. Gladstone — Lord Beaoonsfield's Comment on the Tory Debacle — Mr. Gladstone sent for to Windsor — The New Beer Duty — Mr. Gladstone's Enthusiasm for Finance : his Wonderful Memory — Mr. Wat ney's Testimony — Appointment of my Son Horace as Private Secretary to Mr. W. E. Forster — His Experiences in Dublin — The Arrest of Mr. Parnell : Elaborate Precautions — Mr. Forster and his Eevolver — His Dislike of Police Protection — Anecdote of Judge Barry — Narrow Escape of Mr. Forster at Westland Eow in March 1882 — Father Healy's Wit — An Indignant Archbishop. On March 8 the secret of the dissolution was publicly known. As a splendid instance of that inviolable honour which pervades the Civil Service of this country, I may tell the following anecdote : On the day preceding the announcement, an official friend of mine, from his intercourse 96 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 with Sir Stafford Northcote, then Chancellor of the Exchequer, became aware of what was going to happen. On his way home from the Treasury, he met a great friend of his not blessed with an income which exceeded the bounds of avarice, who was a candidate for an English borough, and who told him he was going abroad that evening, and yet my friend ielt so bound by honour not to divulge a secret which had come to him through official sources, that he let the other start with the full know ledge that on arrival at his destination he would receive the news that would necessitate his immediate return. Some there were who said his conduct was Quixotic ; others, who rever enced the sacred traditions of the Civil Service, knew that he was right. In March 1880 Mr. Gladstone threw him- >self with unabated energy into his second Mid lothian campaign. The enthusiasm he created ^was unflagging, and it was a sore moment for me, tied by official restraints, to have to refuse an invitation from Lady Eosebery to join the .party at Dalmeny, In the midst of the campaign Herbert 1880 IIEEBEET GLADSTONE'S CANDIDATURE 97 Gladstone was asked to stand for Middlesex. It was a splendid opening, of which he availed himself. My two sons, Horace and Eeginald, attended his meetings and helped him. Mr. Lowe, whom I met during the contest, assured me that Herbert spoke as well or even better on the platform than his father had spoken at his age. I wrote to Mr. Gladstone saying how anxious I was that Herbert should not let slip such an opportunity, and he answered me from Dalmeny, saying : 'A quiet, sober-minded man like me is necessarily bewildered at your audacious pro- peedings. Tell Herbert, if you see him, he is constantly in my mind ; and I am so delighted, though not surprised, to hear that he has done well in speaking. Tell him to take opportunities of expressing loyalty to Granville and Hartington. Enthusiasm here is at fever heat, and the meetings, especially the great meetings, are better than in No vember.' Herbert was evidently much in his thoughts, for at the end of the week he wrote : . VOL. II. H 98 RECOLLECTIONS 1880 Dalmeny Park, Edinburgh : March 27, 1880. ' My dear West, — I have in my mind the possibility that the London elections may go ill, and this may be used to discourage Herbert. ' In such case it may be well to provide him with the means of showing by facts that London does not always represent the country. ' Without referring to other occasions, the election of 1841 would, I think, prove this. My recollection is that the Conservatives were then successful in the City, but were in a very small minority of the Metropolitan representatives, while they were in a majority of eiglity odd from the entire country. This would not be difficult to ascertain by reference ; will you, if you can, kindly do it, and send him the result. I have not named the matter to him. ' Experience has shown that you judged well and wisely in encouraging him to stand. Had I been on the ground, my heart might have failed me, but I would not have stood in his way. The accounts of him give me intense joy, but no surprise. I think his face is worth a thousand votes. 1880 LETTERS FEOM MIDLOTHIAN 99 ' My election here is considered a moral cer tainty. The enthusiasm is ungovernable ; it has done us mischief in causing the Sheriff to post pone the election ; he was sincerely afraid of violence had he fixed Saturday — a great bore. ' On Monday I expect to decide finally my public movements. ' A thousand thanks for all kindnesses, your sons' included. ' Yours ever, ' W. E. Gladstone.' A few days later I received the following : Dalmeny Park, Edinburgh : AprU 1, 1880. ' My dear West, — Our enthusiasm keeps at boiling point, and our computations are all to the good. For Midlothian the only doubt in my mind (but I am sensible of the difference between objective and subjective certainty) is between a middling and a really good majority. ' However, England seems less dependent than I had supposed on Scotch teaching. ' Yesterday well bore out your anticipations. We are only getting the first telegrams of to day as I write. It will surprise me now if the H 2 100 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 Government survive, and it is much to be wished that if they fall they may fall heavily. As con-. versely I was tempted to hope that if beaten we should be decisively beaten. ' Wretched City ! If anything, it should be financial. What a tale I could tell of it as a financial authority ! ' My last Midlothian speech stands for to morrow. Continue to give Herbert a kindly glance. ' I look upon yesterday as a dies alba, and as an historic day. ' What are your present expectations ? You will not, I fear, have this until Friday morning. ' Many thanks for all your trouble, and for the abstract. ' Yours sincerely, ' W. E. Gladstone.' Willie Adam had succeeded George Glyn (who had become Lord Wolverton) as Liberal Whip. Never was there such a prophet of the victory which was coming in 1880. He never varied in what I thought his exaggerated views of the coming triumph, to which he. largely 1880 FOEECASTS and EESULTS 101 contributed by his aptitude for organisation and by his great popularity. When the elections began we used often to dine together at Brooks's, and telegram after telegram used to pour in, giving news of fresh gains. ' If you want a seat,' he said, ' you have only to go to Scotland, say you were Mr. Glad stone's secretary, and you would walk in ! ' But amidst all the Liberal successes came the sad news of my brother's defeat at Ipswich. I had ventured to make a forecast of the elections, which I sent to Mr. Gladstone. On April 11 he wrote from Hawarden, where he had returned after his Midlothian campaign, saying : ' My dear West, — What wonders ! Even your cheerful calculations left far in the rear. ' Yours ever, 'W. G.' Then came the rush of the election, triumph after triumph, victory over victory, throughout the length and breadth of the land. Goschen repeated a story at Eipon which I had told him. 102 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 I was dining at Lady Eipon's, and was told by John Bright that he had met a lady recently who had loudly abused Mr. Gladstone to him. Mr. Bright said : ' Madam, have you any children ? If so, show Mr. Gladstone to them, and if you can get him to shake hands with them, they will in after days thank you for having shown them the greatest, the noblest, and the purest of British statesmen.' In a letter in which he acknowledged the loan, Mr. Goschen said, ' I thought it a good story for a large audience, and dragged it in by the heels.' Miss Agnes Hope told me that she was staying at Hatfield during the Tory debacle of 1880, and heard Lord Beaoonsfield say to some of the young men : ' Ah, this is only an episode in your life ; it is the end of mine.' While the elections were proceeding, Welby gave us a dinner at the Garrick Club to celebrate the engagement of our friend Bobsy Meade to Miss Grenfell. Dining one night shortly after the election was over with Mr. Gladstone in Harley Street, and before anything was known as to the 1880 LOED BEAOONSFIELD EESIGNS 103 resignation of the Tory Government, I sug gested that when he came in as Chancellor of the Exchequer he should repeal the malt tax and impose a beer duty. ' Can it be done ? ' he said. ' Of course it can,' I replied ; 'it is in operation in the United States now; we could inquire how it is done there.' Mr. Gladstone was doubtful as to whether he should be in office at all. Soon after this Lord Beaoonsfield resigned, and first Lord Granville and then Lord Hart ington were sent for to Windsor. The former realised at once that the only man the country wanted was Mr. Gladstone ; the latter, after a vain attempt to form a Cabinet, declined 'the task. On one of these evenings I was coming honae from dinner and overtook Lord Granville, and walked with him, discussing what was going on, until we got near his house in Carlton Terrace. Just as we got there a hansom drove up furiously to the door, and two men said they must see Lord Granville. The servant said it was impossible. ' They said they would not go 104 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 away till they had got some news, and there they stood. I left Lord Granville and went for a policeman, whom I could not find, but meeting Wolverton, we returned, to find the men still there, who were only got rid of with difficulty. They were touts for the Press, and had been hanging about all day. The next morning Mr. Gladstone was sent for to Windsor, and accepted the combined offices of First Lord of the Treasury and Chan cellor of the Exchequer, The following morning I was sent for to Harley Street, where I found him at work. ' Send your inspectors at once to the United States,' he said, ' about the beer duty.' ' I now think we can do it without that,' I said, and we did it, thanks to Mr. Gladstone's wonderful powers of perception and persuasion and to Mr. Young's (who was then Secretary to the Board of Inland Eevenue) knowledge and power of imparting details. Mr. Herries, the Chairman of my Board, was ill during all the preliminary investigations into the possibilities of the conversion of the malt tax into a beer duty, and consequently I 1880 THE BEEE DUTY 105 had the great advantage of dealing direct with Mr. Gladstone, and learning myself his wonderful mastery of detail, his clearness and his accuracy. Luckily for me I had as a coadjutor Adam Young, a splendid type of the foremost of civil servants, who was able to give Mr. Gladstone all the minute details of the malt duty which he had asked for, from the time the barley was growing in the fields to the moment when it was finished beer. Visiting Whitbread's great brewery one day with Mr. Young, I was wondering how success ful the new beer duty would prove, when he answered good-naturedly : ' Our business is to inspect the brewery ; do not let us waste time in thinking of what is going to happen in the future,' a habit and control of mind which must have contributed largely, I think, to his success. One Sunday Mr. Gladstone met my daughter coming out of the Chapel Eoyal, and asked for me ; hearing I was away, he said he must trust her with a great secret about the malt duty, and gave her papers which she refused to speak of even to my wife, and, I believe, sat on till my return. 106 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 Mr. Gladstone himself revelled in financial discussions, in which he was so splendid a master and I so inapt a pupil. When one day we arrived to keep an appointment with him, we found him engaged on some question of foreign affairs with, if I recollect rightly, a colleague and an ambassador, whom he got rid of, glancing at the clock and saying as he rose : ' Now I must go to those dear malt people.' Mr. Gladstone's memory was simply mar vellous ; he one day began the conversation by assuming that under the malt tax the profit of the maltster was 3 per cent, on the quarter of malt. I interrupted him by saying it was 4 pet cent. ' Surely,' he said, ' you told me it was 3 per cent, or how could I have got it into my head.' I was sure of my ground, so with some firmness I maintained my position. Turning to Mr. Young, Mr. Gladstone said : ' Can you recollect as far back as 1832 ? ' ' Yes,' said he,- ' and the profit was then reckoned at 3 per cent. per quarter.' ' Ah,' said Mr. Gladstone, much re lieved, ' I now see how I got that figure into my head ; I was elected member for Newark in that year, and I studied the Malt Question then.' 1880 DEFEAT OF THE BEE WEES 107 Fifty years ago — what a memory ! After his great Budget speech, introducing the abolition of the malt tax and the substitu tion of the beer duty, he left the details of the Bill to be drafted by Mr., now Sir William, Melvill, the solicitor to our Board, and the details to Mr. Adam Young and myself. The care that was given to it, and a few meetings at Downing Street with Mr. Gladstone, settled all difficulties, and the Government won an easy victory in the House on a division raised by the brewers as to the specific gravity, though Sir Stafford Northcote, who knew nothing of the technical question, supported them. Mr. Watney, the great brewer, who had worked the business himself as an operator, and. was thoroughly acquainted with all its techni calities and details, was chosen to fight the various clauses and to insert amendments when the Bill was in Committee. When Mr. Gladstone had answered and defeated a few of those which stood on the paper, Mr. Watney rose from his place, put his hat on, and came to me under the gallery, saying : ' It is no use my going on ; Gladstone knows 108 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 more of my business than I do myself ; he's a wizard and I shall leave the House,' which he proceeded to do. During the progress of the Budget a mistake was made from the fault of a change not having been made in the original estimate. I was very miserable about it, and after breakfasting with Mr. Gladstone I said how sorry I was. He at once said : ' I don't put any of the blame on you, but even if I did I should not forget the part you took in originating the change of duty.' Mr. Gladstone often told me it was the greatest financial revolution he had ever wit nessed, and frequently testified to the ability of my Department in bringing it to so successful a conclusion. Sam Whitbread, who, of course, was deeply interested in it and knew the diffi culties of the change, often told me he marvelled how it had been possible. One day I was at Lord Eipon's house, and Forster, who was with him, asked me to speak to him ; to my surprise he asked me if my eldest son Horace would become his assistant private secretary. I replied that all I could say of him was that, though he was very young and had 1880 ME. FOESTEE 109 had no experience, he was a gentleman and would do his best, and that I should be glad if on this understanding he would take him. He had already been offered a similar place by Lord Northbrook, but that was out of friend ship for me, and this, I thought, would be better for him. At first he was put to work far too difficult for anyone without any experience and he made some natural blunders, but it was not till he had gone to Ireland with Forster that his real value came out. On Forster's return, he told me that no words could express the comfort he had been to him, or his charm and popu larity, which indeed, I heard on all sides. He continued with him through all the terrible dangers and troubles of the time, till the Chief Secretary's resignation. Forster was a Eadical of the Eadicals, with a strong infusion of Socialism, which he showed in dealing with the men in his employ. Out- Avardly rough, as if hewn from a rock, he had a vein of tenderness deep down in his heart. He entered upon his Irish office full of hope of what he was to do in reconcUing the 110 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 Irish, and gaining their hearts ; why he failed, it is too early to determine. The following is from my son's recollections of his time in Ireland with him : ' Mr. Forster was appointed Chief Secretary to the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland 1880, and made me his private secretary in April of that year. ' The Land League had obtained such a hold throughout Ireland that he decided strong measures were absolutely necessary, unless the Irish Executive were to allow the leaders of the Land League to govern the country, and in consequence arrests were made throughout Ire land. Some of the most important of these were Davitt and Healy. Matters were in a very critical state, and it was a fight between the Land League and the Irish Government as to which was to have the upper hand. Special resident magistrates were appointed, and troops were drafted into all the disturbed districts. In spite of all these measures matters became worse, and in October 1881 Mr. Forster con sidered it necessary that Parnell should be arrested. This was kept most secret ; a special 1880 MR. PAENELL'S AEEEST 111 meeting of the Cabinet was summoned, and Mr. Forster went over to London by the night mail to attend the meeting the next morning, leaving a few officials who were in the secret to make all the preparations necessary for the arrest, should he obtain the sanction of the Cabinet. Parnell was to address a meeting in Wicklow the same day, and was to stay in Dublin that night. The telegram came from Mr. Forster after the meeting of the Cabinet, telling us to have everything ready, and I remember dining that night at the Club, and sitting with Colonel Talbot, the head of the Dublin Metropolitan Police, after dinner, when he got the report that Parnell had returned from his meeting and was at his hotel. Mr. Forster was on his way back to Dublin, and everything was arranged that, on his arrival the following morning, he should drive at once to the Castle, sign the warrants, and then go on to the Chief Secretary's Lodge. Mr. Forster arrived at Westland Eow at eight o'clock, and was out at the Chief Secretary's Lodge at nine o'clock, having signed the war rants on his way, and at 9.30 we received a mes sage saying Parnell was lodged in Kilmainham. 112 ' EECOLLECTIONS 1880 We drove into the Castle at 10.30 and got in before anyone heard of the arrest, which did not become generally known until about twelve o'clock. Sir Thomas Steele, fearing serious riots, drafted artillery, cavalry, and infantry into the Castle yard, and no outsider was admitted. About seven o'clock we drove back to the Chief Secretary's Lodge with an escort. The police were doubled all round the house, and six troopers of the Scots Greys were put into the stables in case of emergency, and during this state of affairs I remember at about ten o'clock one night a Constabulary orderly came out with a telegram from Clifford Lloyd, stating that serious riots were taking place in the west, and about half an hour later a Dragoon orderly arrived with a telegram from the Queen. We could not decipher it, as the Foreign Office cipher was always kept in the Private Secre tary's room at the Castle. Mr. Forster was dead tired, and I told him that I would go into Dublin and decipher it, and if there was any thing to be done I would call him when I returned. I changed my things and started to ride into Dublin. When half-way through the 1880 AN ADVENTUEOUS EIDE 113 Phoenix Park I began to overtake the Dragoon orderly, who, in very forcible language, asked me who I was and my business, at the same time warning me not to come too near him. I gave an explanation which satisfied him, and on coming up with him I asked the reason for his apparent alarm, when he told me that riots were going on in Dublin, and he had had to get out of the town by a roundabout way, so as to avoid the mob, and advised me to look out for myself. I went on cautiously, trusting that if I saw any cause for alarm I could turn round, having no uniform which would attract attention. I reached the Castle gates without meeting a soul, but had to yell pretty loudly before I was admitted. Once inside, I inquired of the Con stabulary officer what had taken place, and was horrified to hear that the unfortunate Con stabulary orderly who had carried Clifford Lloyd's telegram, had been stoned by the mob and was only dragged through the gates partly alive. It appeared that when he had been sent ¦out everything was quiet — the riots did not com- jnence until half an hour afterwards ; conse quently on his way back he knew nothing, not VOL. II. I 114 RECOLLECTIONS 1880 having met the Dragoon orderly with the Queen's telegram, who, as I have already said, had come by a different route. I fortunately had come behind the rioters, as they had gone on in front of me, and turned down Sackville Street. ' All through this time it was well known that Mr. Forster's life was in serious danger, and of course threatening letters were not wanting, some of them genuine, the majority rubbish. It is a matter of history how marvellous were his escapes from that dangerous gang, who afterwards murdered poor Lord Frederick Cavendish and Mr. Burke. ' As I had the privilege of living with Mr. Forster at the Chief Secretary's Lodge, I con-* sidered it my duty to accompany him always when going into the Castle or returning home at night ; and in Dublin, if ever he went round to the Club for a rubber of whist before going back to dinner, either I or my colleague, Mr. Jephson, would go with him. Acting under the advice of the police, we always carried loaded revolvers, and well do I remember an amusing incident arising out of this. On Mr. Forster's return from the Cabinet meeting i& 1880 ME. FOESTEE'S REVOLVER 115 which I have already alluded, he said to me in his study the following morning : "I bought a revolver yesterday in London, but it seems to me to be very awkward to get at." He then struggled with his inside breast-pocket and dragged out a cavalry "bull-dog" loaded in every chamber, with the muzzle pointing up wards. I persuaded him to let me take it and put it away, and I gave him in exchange the ordinary-sized " bull-dog ; " and with that he and I used occasionally to go out into the kitchen garden, put up a target, and have a shooting match by way of getting our eyes in. ' All -this time a special detective followed him about, and I did not envy him the long hours he had to sit on his wooden chair outside the door of Mr. Forster's room at the Castle. We also had two mounted police who would always follow the carriage in going and re turning from the Castle ; and I remember one evening, driving home in the dark, how Mr. Forster, who was more than usually bothered and worried over the Irish troubles, turned round to me and said : " Are those fellows following me?" On hearing they were, he said : "Tell 116 RECOLLECTIONS 1880 them to go home ; I don't mind if they do kiU me." 'But I was able to dissuade him from this course by pointing out that he would be putting the : policemen in a wrong position, as, if any thing happened to him and they had turned back, they would be blamed ; so afterwards he put up with them, although it was naturally irksome to him. 'A sensational incident, which began in a silly practical joke, of which I now feel rather ashamed, took place on Christmas night. After we had gone to the smoking-room, instead of sitting quietly and chatting as might be ex pected, somehow we began " bally-ragging " (Mr. Forster had gone to bed), and from that I ran out of the front door into the garden, chased by the rest ; but a watchful policeman, hidden behind a tree, and unaccustomed to scenes of frivolity, rushed out and captured me, much to the amusement of those following. The pohceman, seeing the position of affairs, apologised and retired. However, the spirit of the fun had fled, and everyone was returning to the house, when I complained bitterly to the 1880 A RISKY PRACTICAL JOKE 117 policeman who was usually at the Lodge of the excess of zeal shown by his colleague. He sympathised with me, and, entering into the spirit of the thing, said : " He's new to the business ; it's his first time out here." Then suggested : " Look here, sir, you see him now in the moonlight, walking up and down by the haha. Well, put on my hat and coat, and see if you can pass him. I dar'n't give you the pass-word, but when he challenges you, say you're the Inspector, and I'll see no harm comes to you." I slipped on the coat and hat, and off I started by a roundabout way so as to ap proach the policeman on the path by the haha ; the remainder of the party, with the friendly policeman, crept along under the cover of the bushes to within as near their object as was safe, where they waited listening to the police man pacing up and down on the gravel path ; before long other steps were heard approaching, and then the challenge of " Who goes there ? " rang out, and was immediately answered, " The Inspector; " and to the onlookers' astonishment they saw the policeman stand aside and salute, while " the Inspector " continued to march on. lis RECOLLECTIONS 1880 At a corner of the garden under the shadow of the trees the parties all met, and the originator, fired with the success of the venture, said : " Go on, sir, and you'll meet the patrol." ' I, flushed with success, continued to march on through a bit of a coppice, when I again suddenly received a challenge from behind the trees, and immediately answered, as before : " The Inspector." But this time the words were hardly out of my mouth when I was roughly seized by the collar of my borrowed coat, and a bare sword placed across the back of my neck, and the point of another policeman's sword at . my throat, with the question : " Who the are you? " ' The friendly policeman hereupon thought things were getting a little serious, and, hoping to save bloodshed, rushed out from his hiding, exclaiming : " It is Mr. West, of the Lodge ; for God's sake do him no harm." ' The two police officers could not make it out, and one retained his hold on me, with his sword pressing my neck, while the other arrested the policeman without his hat and coat ; then came explanations, etc., and we were both 1880 JUDGE BARRY'S RETORT 119 released, but the two constables who had arrested me said : ' " You may thank your stars, sir, there was a moon, or we should have cut you down first and asked questions afterwards, as the moment you said you were the Inspector, in reply to our challenge, we knew it could not be as it was not his footstep we had heard, and seeing you in a policeman's uniform we thought something must be up." ' About this time, I think it was, Judge Barry came over to dine, and I can see him now, standing with his back to the fire before dinner in the drawing-room, and Mr. Forster, who was late back from the Castle, coming in saying : ' " Well, and how's that God-forsaken County Galway of yours going on ? " ' He replied with a twinkle in his eye, and his strong Irish brogue : ' " Not God-forsaken, Mr. Forster, but Govern ment-forsaken county." ' One other event showing the great risk Mr. Forster ran of having his life taken came under my personal notice. 'It was in March 1882 Avhen Mr. and Mrs. 120 RECOLLECTIONS 1880 Forster were to return to London for the Par liamentary session. Mr. Forster, as usual, had gone into the Castle in the morning, and was to join Mrs. Forster and his daughters at Westland Eow Station in the evening, and travel by the night mail. When we arrived at the Castle,, Jephson, who lived at Bray, asked Mr. Forster to go down with him by an earlier train and dine with him at the Yacht Club ; but Mr. Forster said he did not think he should have time. ' The day wore on, and as usual we were very busy, when about half-past five Mr. Forster's bell rang and Jephson went in to him, and, coming back to our room, said : ' " The Chief is coming down v^dth me to dine at the Yacht Club before going on board the boat," and left me one or two things to do that he might catch the train with Mr. Forster, who asked me to meet Mrs. Forster at Westland Eow, and tell her he would meet her on board. ' I dined at the Club in Dublin and met Mrs. Forster at the station, where I took the tickets,. and at the time I noticed there was a very large 1880 FATHEE IIEALY 121 crowd : indeed, it was with difficulty I managed to get to the booking office, and on going on the platform it was with still more difficulty I helped Mrs. Forster to the carriage reserved for the Chief Secretary ; and when we were in, there was a continuous crowd with many in quiries as to " W^here was the Chief Secretary ? '* ' At the time I put this down to mere curiosity, but afterwards, at the trial of the " Invincibles," it came out that they were there with the in tention of murdering him ; and they got a large crowd to attend to facilitate their escape after the foul deed should have been done. ' During the time I was in Dublin I came across many interesting people, amongst them Father Healy, so well known for his witty sayings and amusing stories. One of them I remember about a very tall young lady, called Miss Lynch : ' " Nature," said he, " gave her an inch and she took an ell." ' On one occasion, when walking with a friend from Dublin to Bray, his friend called his atten tion to some small girls bathing in the sea, with the remark : 122 EECOLLECTIONS 1880 ' " What wretched spindle-shanks they have for legs ! " ' Father Healy answered, " Sure and you wouldn't expect such heifers to have calves ! " ' One story, though against myself, may be worth telling ; When first I went to Mr. Forster I used generally to be given the less important correspondence to attend to, and I remember noticing one morning, on arriving at the Irish Office, the uninteresting looking letters which were on my table. I opened one, written in a bad handwriting, covering two sheets of fool scap, giving the writer's views on the Irish Question, and suggesting many remedies. The letter began: "Dear Sir," and ended up, "Yours faithfully, J. Ebor," and somewhere in the corner was the word "York." ' After reading the letter, I did not think it was worth troubling Mr. Forster with, so acknowledged it in the usual way, and stated that the matter would receive attention. I addressed the reply to " J. Ebor, Esq., York," thinking at the time that the address was scanty, and that probably it would come back to me through the Dead Letter Office. I should not 1880